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Screenshot 2017-09-12 22.55.30Here’s the Southern Poverty Law Center’s universally respected Hate Map of the 917 Hate Groups infesting America.

For example, as you can see above, Santa Barbara hosts the notorious environmentalist group Californians for Population Stabilization. Of course, “Population Stabilization” is a euphemism for stabilization of population.

CAPS is under the leadership of its führer, Dr. Ben Zuckerman, Professor Emeritus of Physics and Astronomy at UCLA.

CAPS is currently agitating for conservation of California’s shrinking Salton Sea. They argue that the rapidly growing population of the American Southwest makes it difficult for enough Colorado River water to be set aside to preserve the Salton Sea in the Southern California low desert as the delightful lake it was in the 1960s. At present, the Salton Sea is on path to turn into a Soviet-style dry lake bed of toxic chemicals.

But, of course, we all know what color salt is …

 
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  1. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    193 hate groups listed are black. Seems like a fair map that identifies hate groups regardless of race, class, and social status. You seem more bothered than anything about the inclusion of a professor from a research university.

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    • Replies: @critic
    The map includes ADL and the many other semitic hate groups. There's something there to bother all of us. No one is perfect. Supremacy is everywhere, regardless of race and social status. Hate is fear by other means. Etc etc etc .... etc. I'm moved to write a haiku.

    I wrote this haiku
    beause white folk are evil.
    And I like that map!
    , @Wally
    And who are the SPLC?

    All Jews .... for Jews Only.

    Forty-Five Years of White Jew Supremacy at the Southern Poverty Law Center

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/forty-five-years-white-supremacy-southern-poverty-law-center/

    , @ic1000
    193 Ten groups listed are black. The claim is that they have 193 active local affiliates in total.

    Black Lives Matter didn't make the cut. They ought to be close, especially if the SPLC's threshold for "cop killings inspired by the group" is cumulative.
    , @Dale Gribble
    I remember once viewing the ADL list of hate/extremist groups. The ADL highlighted environmental terrorists up there with Huwhite supremacists. Any connection her to the Salton Sea activists> >?
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  2. Wilkey says:

    193 hate groups listed are black. Seems like a fair map that identifies hate groups regardless of race, class, and social status. You seem more bothered than anything about the inclusion of a professor from a research university.

    This ain’t rocket science. The point of the SPLC’s list of hate groups is guilt by association. Of course it lists genuine hate groups. Then it throws in a lot of groups whose political views it wants to demonize. The result is that anytime one of these organizations is mentioned in the press the journalist has cover to precede whatever they say with ‘this organization is on the SPLC’s list of hate groups.’

    By putting actual hate groups on the list, including hate groups run by minorities, it can pretend that its list is impartial. Of course if the SPLC is going to include groups run by whites who oppose immigration because most immigrants aren’t white then to be genuinely impartial it should have to include groups run by minorities who support immigration because most immigrants are minorities.

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Of course it lists genuine hate groups.
     
    What exactly are genuine hate groups, Wilkey? A lot of people and groups hate a lot of other people and groups, most of the time for damn good reasons. It may not be per the teachings of Jesus, but it's perfectly fine per the US Constitution. There's no need for a map.
    , @candid_observer

    The point of the SPLC’s list of hate groups is guilt by association.
     
    Maybe you meant:

    The point of the $PLC’s list of hate groups is guilt by monetization.
    , @donut
    " actual hate groups" . That really is a foolish thing to say . " hate groups run by minorities, ". The SPLC is a hate group run by a minority .
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  3. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Or maybe more simply this immigration control group is included because it fits the criteria for a hate group according to the SPLC.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Indeed.
    , @Billy Chav
    I always enjoy watching a dumb person pretending to be a smart person pretending to be a dumb person.
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  4. Mr. Anon says:

    Do they have a map of the various offshore banks where they’ve stashed tens of millions of dollars?

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-69-million-parked-overseas/article/2009553#!

    Poverty has been very good indeed to the SPLC.

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    Are the banks still there after Irma?
    , @anonymous
    Sounds like it's a charity with an endowment. That's very ordinary.
    , @Cwhatfuture
    Is the money in an asset protection trust in Cayman? That is beyond the reach of creditors/lawsuits and that is the reason why wealthy individuals put their money in Cayman. It is protected from judgments. I understand there are a few defamation cases against the SPLC.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Do they have a map of the various offshore banks where they’ve stashed tens of millions of dollars?
     
    I'm sure those funds are, well, diversified. Not just in Liechtenstein, but in the Caymans, Macao, and other vibrant locales.
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  5. critic says:
    @anonymous
    193 hate groups listed are black. Seems like a fair map that identifies hate groups regardless of race, class, and social status. You seem more bothered than anything about the inclusion of a professor from a research university.

    The map includes ADL and the many other semitic hate groups. There’s something there to bother all of us. No one is perfect. Supremacy is everywhere, regardless of race and social status. Hate is fear by other means. Etc etc etc …. etc. I’m moved to write a haiku.

    I wrote this haiku
    beause white folk are evil.
    And I like that map!

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  6. Mr. Anon says:

    Of course it lists genuine hate groups.

    There is no such thing. The very term “hate group” is bogus. As bogus as the term “hate crime”. Mothers Against Drunk Drivers is a “hate group” – they hate drunk drivers.

    The deligitimization of hate is evil and inhuman. Hate is a human emotion. It is nobody’s business to tell you or anyone else whom they may or may not hate.

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    • Replies: @Stephen Paul Foster
    Absolutely! "hate" is another of those words perverted by the left, turned into a weapon to smear dissent and opposition.

    See: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/05/in-defense-of-hatred-right-kind.html
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Great comment, Mr. Anon (I wrote my previous one before I read this). Come to think of it, I didn't see DAMM on the map - Drunks Against Mad Mothers, as we absolutely HATE HATE HATE (TM-Whiskey) the MADD organization. They used to just want to get drunks off the road, but now, after a bit of "NGO mission creep", they go after anyone who wants to drink heavily. I think they've gone completely madd.
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  7. Wally says:
    @anonymous
    193 hate groups listed are black. Seems like a fair map that identifies hate groups regardless of race, class, and social status. You seem more bothered than anything about the inclusion of a professor from a research university.

    And who are the SPLC?

    All Jews …. for Jews Only.

    Forty-Five Years of White Jew Supremacy at the Southern Poverty Law Center

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/forty-five-years-white-supremacy-southern-poverty-law-center/

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  8. @Mr. Anon
    Do they have a map of the various offshore banks where they've stashed tens of millions of dollars?

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-69-million-parked-overseas/article/2009553#!

    Poverty has been very good indeed to the SPLC.

    Are the banks still there after Irma?

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    It is probably immaterial whether the offshore banks physically survived or did not survive Hurricane Irma. I once read an article in which a banker in New York playfully put nameplates on his desk that identified the offshore banking locations he managed. The funds, as it were, may have been accounted through the offshore banks ... but they never left New York.

    Looked at another way, if $21 trillion is truly stashed away in offshore accounts, it would be a practical impossibility to actually store the script and bullion in the offshore banks, much less move them at a moment's notice from, let's say, the Channel Islands to Singapore.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2012/07/23/super-rich-hide-21-trillion-offshore-study-says/#380696436ba6

    Offshore banking assets are like Federal Reserve assets. They are nothing but computer entries that exist in cyberspace. They are computerized accounting entries with enough circuitous deceit to hide their origins.
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  9. @anonymous
    Or maybe more simply this immigration control group is included because it fits the criteria for a hate group according to the SPLC.

    Indeed.

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  10. You know, you could use that map in a different way: to find groups you want to join.

    That would be getting your three-hundred-million dollars worth.

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  11. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    If you make losers feel like winners, they try to overcompensate. If you make freaks feel like ‘new normal’, they want revenge for all the yrs when they were neglected.

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    Thanks for this.
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  12. Tyrion says:

    At which point did the term ‘hate group’ change from a designation to an instruction?

    SPLC: “Here is a list of groups and people that it is proper to hate.”

    The problem is that the SPLC’s schtick is so lucrative. They’re no less moral than a meth-dealing cartel and it is hard enough to persuade a bunch of meth dealers to stop when they are raking in so much.

    And the sort of institutional momentum that they have makes it very difficult to discredit them. I fear that only a long-march into that institution could take it onto a better course.

    Then again, it does sound a fun and rewarding job to subvert that toxic institution into something more sensible just as more sensible institutions were previously subverted into something more toxic.

    Alt right types should look for institutions like this. Those with concentrated decision-making processes and target them for takeover. It would be incomparably easier to take the SPLC over than it would be a university.

    Make a list of probable candidates. Rank them by age, Google news hits, income and wealth. Score the top with the highest number in each category then divide that by the number of executive decision making positions in each organisation. Then subvert from inside.

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  13. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Mr. Anon
    Do they have a map of the various offshore banks where they've stashed tens of millions of dollars?

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-69-million-parked-overseas/article/2009553#!

    Poverty has been very good indeed to the SPLC.

    Sounds like it’s a charity with an endowment. That’s very ordinary.

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    It's not ordinary for endowed charities to spend money on essentially nothing besides the salaries of their officers and directors. Nice try, Superfly.
    , @Autochthon
    It's not ordinary for endowed charities to spend money on essentially nothing besides the salaries of their officers and directors. Nice try, Superfly.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Sounds like it’s a charity with an endowment. That’s very ordinary.
     
    I don't think it's "ordinary" for a charity to hive off millions of dollars in off-shore tax-havens.
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  15. The Daily Stormer is listed as being in Santa Cruz, Mountain View, Santa Monica, and LA, and that’s just in California!

    Damn is Anglin high energy, especially considering he’s coordinating all this from Nigeria!

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    • Replies: @Roderick Spode
    And sometimes Thailand ;)
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  16. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    OT

    https://www.thenation.com/article/on-white-identity-politics-and-american-terrorism/

    “The demographic geography of this nation was shaped by racial terrorism,” author and activist Bryan Stevenson told me recently, in describing his team’s research at the Equal Justice Initiative. “Black people in Brooklyn, the black people in Chicago and Cleveland and Los Angeles, went to those cities not as immigrants, but as refugees and exiles from terror.”

    I guess we’ll never know why whites fled the inner city, but their final act of racial terrorism was to take all of its magic dirt with them.

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  17. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Didn’t make the cut Mr Sailer. Must try harder.

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    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    Could it be a recruiting thing? SS wouldn't want it.
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  18. dearieme says:

    “And we all know what color salt is …”

    Actually, we cool kids use black sea salt. Not Black Sea salt, obs.

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  19. Tiny Duck says:

    You’re daughters will bear Children of Color. Get over it

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    • Replies: @Mark P Miller
    And there's the reveal... fortunately wish fulfillment has a spotty record.
    , @fish

    Oh Trent…..teh ghey be making you bitter and cynical! Why that be?


    - Leonard Pitts
     
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  20. @Anatoly Karlin
    The Daily Stormer is listed as being in Santa Cruz, Mountain View, Santa Monica, and LA, and that's just in California!

    Damn is Anglin high energy, especially considering he's coordinating all this from Nigeria!

    And sometimes Thailand ;)

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  21. Handle says:

    Fool’s Gold Standard.

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  22. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    BTW, Ben Zuckerman Ph.D is worthy of inclusion in the Shtetl of Mettle.

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  23. @Mr. Anon

    Of course it lists genuine hate groups.
     
    There is no such thing. The very term "hate group" is bogus. As bogus as the term "hate crime". Mothers Against Drunk Drivers is a "hate group" - they hate drunk drivers.

    The deligitimization of hate is evil and inhuman. Hate is a human emotion. It is nobody's business to tell you or anyone else whom they may or may not hate.

    Absolutely! “hate” is another of those words perverted by the left, turned into a weapon to smear dissent and opposition.

    See: http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2017/05/in-defense-of-hatred-right-kind.html

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  24. Coemgen says:

    When did hate become an adjective? It’s clear when deplorable became a noun. Newspeak (News Speak?) sure is tough to keep up-to-date with.

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  25. Kirt says:

    Only hate group listed in my city of Corpus Christi is a black separatist group that I never heard of before.

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  26. @Wilkey
    193 hate groups listed are black. Seems like a fair map that identifies hate groups regardless of race, class, and social status. You seem more bothered than anything about the inclusion of a professor from a research university.

    This ain't rocket science. The point of the SPLC's list of hate groups is guilt by association. Of course it lists genuine hate groups. Then it throws in a lot of groups whose political views it wants to demonize. The result is that anytime one of these organizations is mentioned in the press the journalist has cover to precede whatever they say with 'this organization is on the SPLC's list of hate groups.'

    By putting actual hate groups on the list, including hate groups run by minorities, it can pretend that its list is impartial. Of course if the SPLC is going to include groups run by whites who oppose immigration because most immigrants aren't white then to be genuinely impartial it should have to include groups run by minorities who support immigration because most immigrants are minorities.

    Of course it lists genuine hate groups.

    What exactly are genuine hate groups, Wilkey? A lot of people and groups hate a lot of other people and groups, most of the time for damn good reasons. It may not be per the teachings of Jesus, but it’s perfectly fine per the US Constitution. There’s no need for a map.

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  27. @Mr. Anon

    Of course it lists genuine hate groups.
     
    There is no such thing. The very term "hate group" is bogus. As bogus as the term "hate crime". Mothers Against Drunk Drivers is a "hate group" - they hate drunk drivers.

    The deligitimization of hate is evil and inhuman. Hate is a human emotion. It is nobody's business to tell you or anyone else whom they may or may not hate.

    Great comment, Mr. Anon (I wrote my previous one before I read this). Come to think of it, I didn’t see DAMM on the map – Drunks Against Mad Mothers, as we absolutely HATE HATE HATE (TM-Whiskey) the MADD organization. They used to just want to get drunks off the road, but now, after a bit of “NGO mission creep”, they go after anyone who wants to drink heavily. I think they’ve gone completely madd.

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  28. In the age of the internet, it should be fairly easy to create utterly ridiculous hate groups just to find their way onto the SPLC “Hate Map,” which is already ridiculous but could be made moreso.

    Also, wasn’t the Salton Sea created by damming or whatnot somewhere out there?

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  29. @Mr. Anon
    Do they have a map of the various offshore banks where they've stashed tens of millions of dollars?

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-69-million-parked-overseas/article/2009553#!

    Poverty has been very good indeed to the SPLC.

    Is the money in an asset protection trust in Cayman? That is beyond the reach of creditors/lawsuits and that is the reason why wealthy individuals put their money in Cayman. It is protected from judgments. I understand there are a few defamation cases against the SPLC.

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  30. Tyrion says:

    OT but here is some insight into the progressive mindset.

    Here is just resigned Seattle Mayor on Trump:

    Mayor Ed Murray says the country has elected a leader who has “demonstrated outright misogyny” and displayed “racism and authoritarian tendencies.”

    Meanwhile lovely anti-misogyny Ed had raped a number of male teens, and even his young cousin.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/12/us/seattle-mayor-ed-murray-resigns/index.html

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    • Replies: @bored identity
    Even if this Edophile did what he did once, or twice, or maybe few more times, it was done with a love from his sleepless in Seatle heart.

    But when The Orangutan from Queens proverbially grabs wannabe starlets by their nicknames, that's pure mysogyny.
    , @Autochthon
    Didn't Milo the Greek get pilloried for much less regarding such shenanigans?
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  31. TheJester says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Are the banks still there after Irma?

    It is probably immaterial whether the offshore banks physically survived or did not survive Hurricane Irma. I once read an article in which a banker in New York playfully put nameplates on his desk that identified the offshore banking locations he managed. The funds, as it were, may have been accounted through the offshore banks … but they never left New York.

    Looked at another way, if $21 trillion is truly stashed away in offshore accounts, it would be a practical impossibility to actually store the script and bullion in the offshore banks, much less move them at a moment’s notice from, let’s say, the Channel Islands to Singapore.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2012/07/23/super-rich-hide-21-trillion-offshore-study-says/#380696436ba6

    Offshore banking assets are like Federal Reserve assets. They are nothing but computer entries that exist in cyberspace. They are computerized accounting entries with enough circuitous deceit to hide their origins.

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  32. Luke Lea says:

    Hmmm. I see there is one offshoot of the Ku Klux Klan in Cleveland, TN, about 40 miles away. Maybe I should go investigate to see if it really exists? My guess: three guys hanging out in a garage smoking reefer, with a Confederate Flag on the wall.

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    • Replies: @Declane
    More like two FBI agents trying to get a third guy to do something stupid.
    , @Opinionator
    Why not do it and report back to us?
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    More like, drinking Jack Daniels, I would hope, except for the FBI guy. He could afford some of that Maker's Mark on his E-whatever salary, or he probably gets reimbursed, so that he could loosen himself up enough to fit in.

    "Dudes, I mean, y'all, don't you guys, uh, ya'll, HATE HATE HATE (TM - Whiskey) that Martin Luther King, I mean Kang! Let's go hold up a Dunkin' Donuts to get some cash to carry out some mayhem, err, let's raise some hell. Whatdya' mean, I'm not from around here, uh, 'round heah? What's a Krispe Kreme?"
     
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  33. @Tiny Duck
    You're daughters will bear Children of Color. Get over it

    And there’s the reveal… fortunately wish fulfillment has a spotty record.

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  34. Declane says:
    @Luke Lea
    Hmmm. I see there is one offshoot of the Ku Klux Klan in Cleveland, TN, about 40 miles away. Maybe I should go investigate to see if it really exists? My guess: three guys hanging out in a garage smoking reefer, with a Confederate Flag on the wall.

    More like two FBI agents trying to get a third guy to do something stupid.

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  35. farenheit says:

    Wow…First VDare, now CAPS. I donate to both. If Steve or derb can get on the map I can get me a hat trick!!

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  36. What exactly do these “Black Separatist” groups want? Their own country? They already got it. It’s called Liberia. In fact, they already have their own continent. Are they asking for a one way ticket back to Africa? Done! In fact, we should throw in another $20k per person as incentive.

    Any list of hate groups that does not include Antifa and BLM is a Fake Hate List.

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    • Replies: @Stan d Mute

    Are they asking for a one way ticket back to Africa? Done! In fact, we should throw in another $20k per person as incentive.
     
    $500,000 each would be a bargain. $1,000,000 each would still be an excellent investment. When you compute the costs (full costs) of each to our society then multiply by their fecundity and years of expected return (infinite) on the investment ... what really is the upper limit? $1,000,000,000 each? At that point it's Zimbabwean dollars right? Their current cost alone is incalculable when you include the lives lost or destroyed to their crimes, families in ruin, loss of entire cities, etc.
    , @Maj. Kong
    They want all of society to look like the NBA/NFL, the closest thing to "We was Kangz" that exists/ever existed in reality.
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  37. @Anon
    If you make losers feel like winners, they try to overcompensate. If you make freaks feel like 'new normal', they want revenge for all the yrs when they were neglected.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SxSrDixH1M

    Thanks for this.

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  38. @Anon
    Didn't make the cut Mr Sailer. Must try harder.

    Could it be a recruiting thing? SS wouldn’t want it.

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  39. arvid says:

    Trump and Bernie should sit down today and hammer out a compromise. (1) Medicare for all, effective immediately (2) Pay for it by deporting all illegals and ending birthright citizenship

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  40. ic1000 says:
    @anonymous
    193 hate groups listed are black. Seems like a fair map that identifies hate groups regardless of race, class, and social status. You seem more bothered than anything about the inclusion of a professor from a research university.

    193 Ten groups listed are black. The claim is that they have 193 active local affiliates in total.

    Black Lives Matter didn’t make the cut. They ought to be close, especially if the SPLC’s threshold for “cop killings inspired by the group” is cumulative.

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    193 Ten groups listed are black.
     
    Tokenism!

    Remember, the test case for hate crime laws utilized [sic] a black group as perpetrators. For show.

    , @res
    Thanks for clarifying. It is just too time consuming to chase down all the misleading assertions like that. The anonymous (mi?) of comments 1, 3, and 12 clearly has an agenda.
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  41. @Mr. Anon
    Do they have a map of the various offshore banks where they've stashed tens of millions of dollars?

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-69-million-parked-overseas/article/2009553#!

    Poverty has been very good indeed to the SPLC.

    Do they have a map of the various offshore banks where they’ve stashed tens of millions of dollars?

    I’m sure those funds are, well, diversified. Not just in Liechtenstein, but in the Caymans, Macao, and other vibrant locales.

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    I’m sure those [SPLC] funds are, well, diversified. Not just in Liechtenstein, but in the Caymans, Macao, and other vibrant locales.
     
    Indeed. That lends added meaning to the phrase "Diversity is our greatest strength".
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  42. @ic1000
    193 Ten groups listed are black. The claim is that they have 193 active local affiliates in total.

    Black Lives Matter didn't make the cut. They ought to be close, especially if the SPLC's threshold for "cop killings inspired by the group" is cumulative.

    193 Ten groups listed are black.

    Tokenism!

    Remember, the test case for hate crime laws utilized [sic] a black group as perpetrators. For show.

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  43. The Ruth Institute is considered a hate group. But if they qualify, why not just list the Vatican? Aren’t they the “puppeteer”?

    During the Prop. 8 campaign nine (!) years ago, SPLC insisted that no group would be listed if their support of the measure was for religious reasons. Obviously a sop to black churches.

    But no whites had a bigger beef with black churches than the “marriage equality” crowd. So how come they were never under suspicion for those church burnings?

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    Behold the new Thought Police.

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  46. J1234 says:

    I saw a swastika over my smallish city and I said, “gulp…I guess that’s me.” Then I clicked on the swastika and found there’s actually a “neo-nazi” group in my city…that I’d never heard of. Then I found the link, and the “group” is one guy who I had heard of.

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    Then I found the link, and the “group” is one guy who I had heard of.
     
    Is a group of one still a group?

    I am reminded of George Carlin's old radio-news routine:

    "This just in: We have just received a report that a man has barricaded himself inside his home. However, he is unarmed, and no one is paying any attention to him."
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  47. Jason Liu says:

    Wonder if there’ll be Asian ‘hate groups’ in the future… we need radical right representation

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    You're all too busy doing useful stuff.
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  48. Pretending the confederate battle flag is a symbol of racism is a nice touch. These guys have a second career in consulting for psy-ops available if ever their racket in the private sector falls through. But then, hey, I’m active with the hateful CAPS, citing data collected by the Sons of Confederate Veterans, doubtless another hate group. You just gotta hate how hateful I am.

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    Hate those hateful hating haters who hate.
    , @AM
    "But then, hey, I’m active with the hateful CAPS"

    Ah, that would explain all the time arguing with me against humanity. ;)

    "Population control" is very much an idea that took over a generation; the actual consequences, physical and mental, on Americans never very really explored. I know my generation shrugged and ignored it or basically sterilized themselves.

    The millennials are on course to take all the advice about humans being an absolute scurge of the planet to heart and have absolutely abysmal family formation rates.

    Not only are y'all about to get "stabilization", it's going to smaller very quickly.

    But yippee! No smelly people to mess up the planet. I'm so relieved that the high average IQ of whites has lead to such wise decision making.
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  49. @Wilkey
    193 hate groups listed are black. Seems like a fair map that identifies hate groups regardless of race, class, and social status. You seem more bothered than anything about the inclusion of a professor from a research university.

    This ain't rocket science. The point of the SPLC's list of hate groups is guilt by association. Of course it lists genuine hate groups. Then it throws in a lot of groups whose political views it wants to demonize. The result is that anytime one of these organizations is mentioned in the press the journalist has cover to precede whatever they say with 'this organization is on the SPLC's list of hate groups.'

    By putting actual hate groups on the list, including hate groups run by minorities, it can pretend that its list is impartial. Of course if the SPLC is going to include groups run by whites who oppose immigration because most immigrants aren't white then to be genuinely impartial it should have to include groups run by minorities who support immigration because most immigrants are minorities.

    The point of the SPLC’s list of hate groups is guilt by association.

    Maybe you meant:

    The point of the $PLC’s list of hate groups is guilt by monetization.

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  50. @anonymous
    Sounds like it's a charity with an endowment. That's very ordinary.

    It’s not ordinary for endowed charities to spend money on essentially nothing besides the salaries of their officers and directors. Nice try, Superfly.

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  51. @anonymous
    Sounds like it's a charity with an endowment. That's very ordinary.

    It’s not ordinary for endowed charities to spend money on essentially nothing besides the salaries of their officers and directors. Nice try, Superfly.

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  52. @Luke Lea
    Hmmm. I see there is one offshoot of the Ku Klux Klan in Cleveland, TN, about 40 miles away. Maybe I should go investigate to see if it really exists? My guess: three guys hanging out in a garage smoking reefer, with a Confederate Flag on the wall.

    Why not do it and report back to us?

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  53. fish says:
    @Tiny Duck
    You're daughters will bear Children of Color. Get over it

    Oh Trent…..teh ghey be making you bitter and cynical! Why that be?

    - Leonard Pitts

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  54. res says:
    @ic1000
    193 Ten groups listed are black. The claim is that they have 193 active local affiliates in total.

    Black Lives Matter didn't make the cut. They ought to be close, especially if the SPLC's threshold for "cop killings inspired by the group" is cumulative.

    Thanks for clarifying. It is just too time consuming to chase down all the misleading assertions like that. The anonymous (mi?) of comments 1, 3, and 12 clearly has an agenda.

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  55. res says:
    @Autochthon
    Pretending the confederate battle flag is a symbol of racism is a nice touch. These guys have a second career in consulting for psy-ops available if ever their racket in the private sector falls through. But then, hey, I'm active with the hateful CAPS, citing data collected by the Sons of Confederate Veterans, doubtless another hate group. You just gotta hate how hateful I am.

    Hate those hateful hating haters who hate.

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  56. George says:

    Splc claims californians for population stabilization has unsavory white nationalists working for them.

    Search on: californians for population stabilization splc

    Santa Barbara Anti-Immigration Group Hit with ‘Hate’ Label
    Californians for Population Stabilization (CAPS) Previously Employed Two White Nationalists and Recently Hired a Neo-Nazi

    http://www.independent.com/news/2017/feb/27/sbs-californians-population-stabilization-labeled-/

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  57. @Tyrion
    OT but here is some insight into the progressive mindset.

    Here is just resigned Seattle Mayor on Trump:

    Mayor Ed Murray says the country has elected a leader who has “demonstrated outright misogyny” and displayed “racism and authoritarian tendencies.”

    Meanwhile lovely anti-misogyny Ed had raped a number of male teens, and even his young cousin.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/12/us/seattle-mayor-ed-murray-resigns/index.html

    Even if this Edophile did what he did once, or twice, or maybe few more times, it was done with a love from his sleepless in Seatle heart.

    But when The Orangutan from Queens proverbially grabs wannabe starlets by their nicknames, that’s pure mysogyny.

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  58. @The real enemy
    What exactly do these "Black Separatist" groups want? Their own country? They already got it. It's called Liberia. In fact, they already have their own continent. Are they asking for a one way ticket back to Africa? Done! In fact, we should throw in another $20k per person as incentive.

    Any list of hate groups that does not include Antifa and BLM is a Fake Hate List.

    Are they asking for a one way ticket back to Africa? Done! In fact, we should throw in another $20k per person as incentive.

    $500,000 each would be a bargain. $1,000,000 each would still be an excellent investment. When you compute the costs (full costs) of each to our society then multiply by their fecundity and years of expected return (infinite) on the investment … what really is the upper limit? $1,000,000,000 each? At that point it’s Zimbabwean dollars right? Their current cost alone is incalculable when you include the lives lost or destroyed to their crimes, families in ruin, loss of entire cities, etc.

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  59. nebulafox says:
    @Jason Liu
    Wonder if there'll be Asian 'hate groups' in the future... we need radical right representation

    You’re all too busy doing useful stuff.

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    Also probably too conformist to engage in really hardcore radicalism like Whites, Jews, and Blacks.

    There's some Asian Identity forums (e.g. on Reddit) which are functionally Asian nationalist but they have adopted gay privilegespeak like BLM so they're not going on the SPLC's radar any time soon.

    My acquaintance pilleater also has an... eclectic movement called Asian Aryanism. It's... best to let him make the introduction:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW7Eqsd9Z7c
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  60. @Tyrion
    OT but here is some insight into the progressive mindset.

    Here is just resigned Seattle Mayor on Trump:

    Mayor Ed Murray says the country has elected a leader who has “demonstrated outright misogyny” and displayed “racism and authoritarian tendencies.”

    Meanwhile lovely anti-misogyny Ed had raped a number of male teens, and even his young cousin.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/12/us/seattle-mayor-ed-murray-resigns/index.html

    Didn’t Milo the Greek get pilloried for much less regarding such shenanigans?

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  61. The reason the SPLC is so careful not to lump left wing haters with the right is because the overwhelming majority of their donors truly hate the right. Even if it is an ineffective charity and only 1% of the proceeds actually go to really fighting racism, they can be assured that every penny of that 1% will be used to attack only white Christian men. The SPLC is selling a very consistent product and the people who are buying it can do so knowing exactly what they will get.

    This nonsense that old Jewish people were duped and would not be giving money “if they only knew” is just squid ink. They know exactly what they are doing and if they did not then, they do now.

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    This nonsense that old Jewish people were duped and would not be giving money “if they only knew” is just squid ink. They know exactly what they are doing and if they did not then, they do now.
     
    Old people often aren't all there. A lot of conmen types thrive off this fact. My Grandfather, once widowed and a nonagerian, would have been extremely susceptible to the SPLC's schtick in a way that he never would have been when younger or with my Grandmother around.

    I saw this first hand over a couple of issues of rather more importance than SPLC donations. Including his relationship with an old family friend. Old people trend back towards a childlike state and children are very easily scared and offended.
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  62. “exiles from terror.” perpetrated by Democrats. All of this monuments, etc business is about a Party erasing their history.

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  63. Maj. Kong says:
    @The real enemy
    What exactly do these "Black Separatist" groups want? Their own country? They already got it. It's called Liberia. In fact, they already have their own continent. Are they asking for a one way ticket back to Africa? Done! In fact, we should throw in another $20k per person as incentive.

    Any list of hate groups that does not include Antifa and BLM is a Fake Hate List.

    They want all of society to look like the NBA/NFL, the closest thing to “We was Kangz” that exists/ever existed in reality.

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  64. @Luke Lea
    Hmmm. I see there is one offshoot of the Ku Klux Klan in Cleveland, TN, about 40 miles away. Maybe I should go investigate to see if it really exists? My guess: three guys hanging out in a garage smoking reefer, with a Confederate Flag on the wall.

    More like, drinking Jack Daniels, I would hope, except for the FBI guy. He could afford some of that Maker’s Mark on his E-whatever salary, or he probably gets reimbursed, so that he could loosen himself up enough to fit in.

    “Dudes, I mean, y’all, don’t you guys, uh, ya’ll, HATE HATE HATE (TM – Whiskey) that Martin Luther King, I mean Kang! Let’s go hold up a Dunkin’ Donuts to get some cash to carry out some mayhem, err, let’s raise some hell. Whatdya’ mean, I’m not from around here, uh, ’round heah? What’s a Krispe Kreme?”

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  65. Once upon a time, CAPS and the ideas is was promoting were considered quite mainstream. But after the night of the long knives when the Sierra Club was purged of their population control types they became a problem. Old white people who were voluntarily limiting their family size in order to enjoy quality of live issues and pass something on to the rest of us forgot about how racist it was to think of themselves. Having nice things is against the rules, especially when there are more deserving brown immigrants who wanted to come and lay their eggs.

    So now rather than live by credo “think globally, act locally” like the ubiquitous Berkeley bumper sticker famously declared (that was the coexist sticker of the 70s) they now needed something abstract to pin the blame on whitey. So rather than hold people individually responsible for their actions we now have global warming where you can have as many children as you like just as long as they are not Republicans.

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  66. @anonymous
    Or maybe more simply this immigration control group is included because it fits the criteria for a hate group according to the SPLC.

    I always enjoy watching a dumb person pretending to be a smart person pretending to be a dumb person.

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  67. @anonymous
    193 hate groups listed are black. Seems like a fair map that identifies hate groups regardless of race, class, and social status. You seem more bothered than anything about the inclusion of a professor from a research university.

    I remember once viewing the ADL list of hate/extremist groups. The ADL highlighted environmental terrorists up there with Huwhite supremacists. Any connection her to the Salton Sea activists> >?

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    No, CAPS is made up of environmentalists like Gov. Richard Lamm (D-CO from 1975-1987) who want to help preserve the environment by stabilizing population. For example, if the population of the Colorado River watershed weren't growing so fast, there'd be a little water left over to replenish the Salton Sea and keep it an attractive lake like it was was when my family visited it in the 1960s. Now, it's turning into a Soviet style toxic dry lake bed of weird chemicals.
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  68. @Dale Gribble
    I remember once viewing the ADL list of hate/extremist groups. The ADL highlighted environmental terrorists up there with Huwhite supremacists. Any connection her to the Salton Sea activists> >?

    No, CAPS is made up of environmentalists like Gov. Richard Lamm (D-CO from 1975-1987) who want to help preserve the environment by stabilizing population. For example, if the population of the Colorado River watershed weren’t growing so fast, there’d be a little water left over to replenish the Salton Sea and keep it an attractive lake like it was was when my family visited it in the 1960s. Now, it’s turning into a Soviet style toxic dry lake bed of weird chemicals.

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    "For example, if the population of the Colorado River watershed weren’t growing so fast, there’d be a little water left over to replenish the Salton Sea and keep it an attractive lake like it was was when my family visited it in the 1960s."

    I would recommend an intro course in Western water law, which is fascinating stuff. It turns out agriculture has first dibs on all that water, with residences being 3rd in line for water after industry. If the stats I learned from 20 years ago still hold, CA agriculture is still the main user of CO river water.

    In other words, if you want water in the rivers, please stop buying lettuce and strawberries in January.

    From the stuff I read over the years, it's never the number of people- it's always how we were managing development.

    Sure have 2 kids for "the environment". What actually happens in the West is we use our spare time to get insanely wealthy and take ski and beach trips and eat out of season fresh vegetables and generally cr*p on the environment. It's not like the Amish are known for corporate ag farm that makes sure that millions of people have access to cucumbers in February.

    , @Autochthon

    Now, it’s turning into a Soviet style toxic dry lake bed of weird chemicals.
     
    This description is an understatement. I regularly visited the Salton Sea in my days to the south, whilst hooning around the desert. It gave me a strange peace. The closest literary comparisons I can summon are to the situation of Dr. Manhattan fleeing to Mars for solitude from humanity, or the utter desolation ascribed to the plains of Mordor by Tolkien. It probably presages our Mad Max future, when it inevitably arrives to correct the ceaseless overpopulation. There is an acrid stench, mountains of carrion – dead fish, mostly, but any number of other creatures afflicted by the noxious waters (if they can be called that). It's tranquility and stillness is complete. The peace of the grave. Despite many houses, clearly functioning vehicles, and even a few purported businesses, I literally never once saw another human being anywhere near the shores during my visits. I always assumed what buildings were not abandoned were visited only intermittently for nefarious purposes, or that they housed zombies addicted to meth or worse, who slumbered the sleep of the opium den during the heat of the days, and emerged only at night. It's a fascinating place, and worth visiting, for multifaceted reasons: it is a parable of folly and a memento mori without equal.
    , @cynthia curran
    After George Bush, there are hardly anyone on the left that supports immigration control. I liked RIchard Lamm and Barbara Jordon, but the left will not accept that view theses days.
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  69. donut says:
    @Wilkey
    193 hate groups listed are black. Seems like a fair map that identifies hate groups regardless of race, class, and social status. You seem more bothered than anything about the inclusion of a professor from a research university.

    This ain't rocket science. The point of the SPLC's list of hate groups is guilt by association. Of course it lists genuine hate groups. Then it throws in a lot of groups whose political views it wants to demonize. The result is that anytime one of these organizations is mentioned in the press the journalist has cover to precede whatever they say with 'this organization is on the SPLC's list of hate groups.'

    By putting actual hate groups on the list, including hate groups run by minorities, it can pretend that its list is impartial. Of course if the SPLC is going to include groups run by whites who oppose immigration because most immigrants aren't white then to be genuinely impartial it should have to include groups run by minorities who support immigration because most immigrants are minorities.

    ” actual hate groups” . That really is a foolish thing to say . ” hate groups run by minorities, “. The SPLC is a hate group run by a minority .

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  70. eah says:
    @eah
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJnmvU4VAAAu-7n.jpg

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  71. AM says:
    @Steve Sailer
    No, CAPS is made up of environmentalists like Gov. Richard Lamm (D-CO from 1975-1987) who want to help preserve the environment by stabilizing population. For example, if the population of the Colorado River watershed weren't growing so fast, there'd be a little water left over to replenish the Salton Sea and keep it an attractive lake like it was was when my family visited it in the 1960s. Now, it's turning into a Soviet style toxic dry lake bed of weird chemicals.

    “For example, if the population of the Colorado River watershed weren’t growing so fast, there’d be a little water left over to replenish the Salton Sea and keep it an attractive lake like it was was when my family visited it in the 1960s.”

    I would recommend an intro course in Western water law, which is fascinating stuff. It turns out agriculture has first dibs on all that water, with residences being 3rd in line for water after industry. If the stats I learned from 20 years ago still hold, CA agriculture is still the main user of CO river water.

    In other words, if you want water in the rivers, please stop buying lettuce and strawberries in January.

    From the stuff I read over the years, it’s never the number of people- it’s always how we were managing development.

    Sure have 2 kids for “the environment”. What actually happens in the West is we use our spare time to get insanely wealthy and take ski and beach trips and eat out of season fresh vegetables and generally cr*p on the environment. It’s not like the Amish are known for corporate ag farm that makes sure that millions of people have access to cucumbers in February.

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    More people means more consumption of lettuce and strawberries.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    I would recommend an intro course in Western water law...
     
    Does that include viewing Chinatown?
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  72. @nebulafox
    You're all too busy doing useful stuff.

    Also probably too conformist to engage in really hardcore radicalism like Whites, Jews, and Blacks.

    There’s some Asian Identity forums (e.g. on Reddit) which are functionally Asian nationalist but they have adopted gay privilegespeak like BLM so they’re not going on the SPLC’s radar any time soon.

    My acquaintance pilleater also has an… eclectic movement called Asian Aryanism. It’s… best to let him make the introduction:

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    The Asian Aryanism site was made up by one weird white dude.
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  73. @Steve Sailer
    No, CAPS is made up of environmentalists like Gov. Richard Lamm (D-CO from 1975-1987) who want to help preserve the environment by stabilizing population. For example, if the population of the Colorado River watershed weren't growing so fast, there'd be a little water left over to replenish the Salton Sea and keep it an attractive lake like it was was when my family visited it in the 1960s. Now, it's turning into a Soviet style toxic dry lake bed of weird chemicals.

    Now, it’s turning into a Soviet style toxic dry lake bed of weird chemicals.

    This description is an understatement. I regularly visited the Salton Sea in my days to the south, whilst hooning around the desert. It gave me a strange peace. The closest literary comparisons I can summon are to the situation of Dr. Manhattan fleeing to Mars for solitude from humanity, or the utter desolation ascribed to the plains of Mordor by Tolkien. It probably presages our Mad Max future, when it inevitably arrives to correct the ceaseless overpopulation. There is an acrid stench, mountains of carrion – dead fish, mostly, but any number of other creatures afflicted by the noxious waters (if they can be called that). It’s tranquility and stillness is complete. The peace of the grave. Despite many houses, clearly functioning vehicles, and even a few purported businesses, I literally never once saw another human being anywhere near the shores during my visits. I always assumed what buildings were not abandoned were visited only intermittently for nefarious purposes, or that they housed zombies addicted to meth or worse, who slumbered the sleep of the opium den during the heat of the days, and emerged only at night. It’s a fascinating place, and worth visiting, for multifaceted reasons: it is a parable of folly and a memento mori without equal.

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  74. @AM
    "For example, if the population of the Colorado River watershed weren’t growing so fast, there’d be a little water left over to replenish the Salton Sea and keep it an attractive lake like it was was when my family visited it in the 1960s."

    I would recommend an intro course in Western water law, which is fascinating stuff. It turns out agriculture has first dibs on all that water, with residences being 3rd in line for water after industry. If the stats I learned from 20 years ago still hold, CA agriculture is still the main user of CO river water.

    In other words, if you want water in the rivers, please stop buying lettuce and strawberries in January.

    From the stuff I read over the years, it's never the number of people- it's always how we were managing development.

    Sure have 2 kids for "the environment". What actually happens in the West is we use our spare time to get insanely wealthy and take ski and beach trips and eat out of season fresh vegetables and generally cr*p on the environment. It's not like the Amish are known for corporate ag farm that makes sure that millions of people have access to cucumbers in February.

    More people means more consumption of lettuce and strawberries.

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    "More people means more consumption of lettuce and strawberries."

    We never consumed out of season produce on mass scale until 1960ish or so.

    If getting water back into the CO river is as simple as abandoning a mass luxury item* and no one does anything about it, is this discussion really about the environment?

    *In fairness it's probably not this simple. However, overlooking the low hanging fruit (heh!) leads to the same question.

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  75. AM says:
    @Autochthon
    Pretending the confederate battle flag is a symbol of racism is a nice touch. These guys have a second career in consulting for psy-ops available if ever their racket in the private sector falls through. But then, hey, I'm active with the hateful CAPS, citing data collected by the Sons of Confederate Veterans, doubtless another hate group. You just gotta hate how hateful I am.

    “But then, hey, I’m active with the hateful CAPS”

    Ah, that would explain all the time arguing with me against humanity. ;)

    “Population control” is very much an idea that took over a generation; the actual consequences, physical and mental, on Americans never very really explored. I know my generation shrugged and ignored it or basically sterilized themselves.

    The millennials are on course to take all the advice about humans being an absolute scurge of the planet to heart and have absolutely abysmal family formation rates.

    Not only are y’all about to get “stabilization”, it’s going to smaller very quickly.

    But yippee! No smelly people to mess up the planet. I’m so relieved that the high average IQ of whites has lead to such wise decision making.

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  76. AM says:

    “I regularly visited the Salton Sea in my days to the south, whilst hooning around the desert. ”

    All that voluntary traveling sounds like it would be hard on the environment.

    So..you read my post right? You’re anxious to find out if CA agriculture is drawing down the CO river so you can institute a boycott of out of season CA produce right? That’s much easier than any attempts at population control.

    Because this isn’t about having a weird tick about your fellow humans- it’s about the environment. ;)

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    You've apparently some bizarre notion overpopulation is anything to do with Americans (not) reproducing.
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  77. Jason Liu says:
    @Anatoly Karlin
    Also probably too conformist to engage in really hardcore radicalism like Whites, Jews, and Blacks.

    There's some Asian Identity forums (e.g. on Reddit) which are functionally Asian nationalist but they have adopted gay privilegespeak like BLM so they're not going on the SPLC's radar any time soon.

    My acquaintance pilleater also has an... eclectic movement called Asian Aryanism. It's... best to let him make the introduction:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW7Eqsd9Z7c

    The Asian Aryanism site was made up by one weird white dude.

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  78. AM says:
    @Opinionator
    More people means more consumption of lettuce and strawberries.

    “More people means more consumption of lettuce and strawberries.”

    We never consumed out of season produce on mass scale until 1960ish or so.

    If getting water back into the CO river is as simple as abandoning a mass luxury item* and no one does anything about it, is this discussion really about the environment?

    *In fairness it’s probably not this simple. However, overlooking the low hanging fruit (heh!) leads to the same question.

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  79. “You’re” … I see real smart brothas be teaching you grammar

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  80. Hey Slander Properly Low Center, somehow you missed the spot, or reporting on gangbanging artists who hangs pale children in their music videos is way bellow SPLC Gold Standards ? :

    https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/xxxtentacions-reported-victim-details-grim-pattern-of-abuse-in-testimony/

    Little Harambe is petrified with a possibility of him going to jail….not:

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  81. @AM
    "I regularly visited the Salton Sea in my days to the south, whilst hooning around the desert. "

    All that voluntary traveling sounds like it would be hard on the environment.

    So..you read my post right? You're anxious to find out if CA agriculture is drawing down the CO river so you can institute a boycott of out of season CA produce right? That's much easier than any attempts at population control.

    Because this isn't about having a weird tick about your fellow humans- it's about the environment. ;)

    You’ve apparently some bizarre notion overpopulation is anything to do with Americans (not) reproducing.

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  82. AM says:

    You’ve apparently some bizarre notion overpopulation is anything to do with Americans (not) reproducing.

    Yeah, it is pretty silly to assume that people raised on the public message that the planet is over populated would imagine that they weren’t supposed to have children. I can’t even imagine how I connected the two ideas. ahem

    The thought that we were overpopulating the planet impacted decisions in the beginning of our child bearing years. It certainly made me feel bad/guilty about even wanting to have children. That’s why I know that the messaging does work, in the absence of any sort of religious environment or other influences. Discarding the overpopulation mindset was one of the better days of my life, to be frank.

    Enough with that, any thoughts for real on that lake you visit so often?

    I’d actually like to see it return to normal and I’d be happy to give up most fresh (and frozen if I must) and return to local, in season produce. Most vegetables add variety and few trace minerals. They’re hardly a necessity from a human nutrition standpoint. If you were ever interested in looking at CA agricultural water intakes and seeing what could be done to return at least some water to the CO, I’m quite serious that it’s something I’d support.

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    Wow. That's quite a non sequitur.

    Let me be explicit:

    – I've written extensively here about the unsustainable use of water for agriculture in California and the sinking Central Valley: problems caused by overpopulation: these farms exist to feed people, not as hobbies.

    – White people should have more children. I just created one myself. It is imperative that white populations grow, to protect themselves and the planet's ecology – they are the only ones who give a damn about the latter.

    – Black, brown, and yellow people – Africans of all stripes, Indians, Filipinos, Mestizoids, etc. – are causing horrifying overpopulation worldwide, and, specifically, in what used to be the U.S.A., via their invasion thereof (which is displacing and contributing to decreased fertiltity among native whites).

    – Please consider leaving Vermont more often, or at least studying Steve's excellent work (in handy, graphic presentations) about trends for population both here and abroad.

    I write this stuff with no ill will; as a reproducing white woman, you are doing God's work.

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  83. Mr. Anon says:
    @anonymous
    Sounds like it's a charity with an endowment. That's very ordinary.

    Sounds like it’s a charity with an endowment. That’s very ordinary.

    I don’t think it’s “ordinary” for a charity to hive off millions of dollars in off-shore tax-havens.

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  84. Mr. Anon says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Do they have a map of the various offshore banks where they’ve stashed tens of millions of dollars?
     
    I'm sure those funds are, well, diversified. Not just in Liechtenstein, but in the Caymans, Macao, and other vibrant locales.

    I’m sure those [SPLC] funds are, well, diversified. Not just in Liechtenstein, but in the Caymans, Macao, and other vibrant locales.

    Indeed. That lends added meaning to the phrase “Diversity is our greatest strength”.

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  85. @Steve Sailer
    No, CAPS is made up of environmentalists like Gov. Richard Lamm (D-CO from 1975-1987) who want to help preserve the environment by stabilizing population. For example, if the population of the Colorado River watershed weren't growing so fast, there'd be a little water left over to replenish the Salton Sea and keep it an attractive lake like it was was when my family visited it in the 1960s. Now, it's turning into a Soviet style toxic dry lake bed of weird chemicals.

    After George Bush, there are hardly anyone on the left that supports immigration control. I liked RIchard Lamm and Barbara Jordon, but the left will not accept that view theses days.

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  86. Mr. Anon says:
    @J1234
    I saw a swastika over my smallish city and I said, "gulp...I guess that's me." Then I clicked on the swastika and found there's actually a "neo-nazi" group in my city...that I'd never heard of. Then I found the link, and the "group" is one guy who I had heard of.

    Then I found the link, and the “group” is one guy who I had heard of.

    Is a group of one still a group?

    I am reminded of George Carlin’s old radio-news routine:

    “This just in: We have just received a report that a man has barricaded himself inside his home. However, he is unarmed, and no one is paying any attention to him.”

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  87. Mr. Anon says:

    Often, when I see SPLC spelled out in lower-case letters – splc – it looks like “spic”. I don’t know – that sounds awful hateful to me. Somebody should look into that.

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  88. Tyrion says:
    @Prof. Woland
    The reason the SPLC is so careful not to lump left wing haters with the right is because the overwhelming majority of their donors truly hate the right. Even if it is an ineffective charity and only 1% of the proceeds actually go to really fighting racism, they can be assured that every penny of that 1% will be used to attack only white Christian men. The SPLC is selling a very consistent product and the people who are buying it can do so knowing exactly what they will get.

    This nonsense that old Jewish people were duped and would not be giving money "if they only knew" is just squid ink. They know exactly what they are doing and if they did not then, they do now.

    This nonsense that old Jewish people were duped and would not be giving money “if they only knew” is just squid ink. They know exactly what they are doing and if they did not then, they do now.

    Old people often aren’t all there. A lot of conmen types thrive off this fact. My Grandfather, once widowed and a nonagerian, would have been extremely susceptible to the SPLC’s schtick in a way that he never would have been when younger or with my Grandmother around.

    I saw this first hand over a couple of issues of rather more importance than SPLC donations. Including his relationship with an old family friend. Old people trend back towards a childlike state and children are very easily scared and offended.

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  89. @AM

    You’ve apparently some bizarre notion overpopulation is anything to do with Americans (not) reproducing.
     
    Yeah, it is pretty silly to assume that people raised on the public message that the planet is over populated would imagine that they weren't supposed to have children. I can't even imagine how I connected the two ideas. ahem

    The thought that we were overpopulating the planet impacted decisions in the beginning of our child bearing years. It certainly made me feel bad/guilty about even wanting to have children. That's why I know that the messaging does work, in the absence of any sort of religious environment or other influences. Discarding the overpopulation mindset was one of the better days of my life, to be frank.

    Enough with that, any thoughts for real on that lake you visit so often?

    I'd actually like to see it return to normal and I'd be happy to give up most fresh (and frozen if I must) and return to local, in season produce. Most vegetables add variety and few trace minerals. They're hardly a necessity from a human nutrition standpoint. If you were ever interested in looking at CA agricultural water intakes and seeing what could be done to return at least some water to the CO, I'm quite serious that it's something I'd support.

    Wow. That’s quite a non sequitur.

    Let me be explicit:

    – I’ve written extensively here about the unsustainable use of water for agriculture in California and the sinking Central Valley: problems caused by overpopulation: these farms exist to feed people, not as hobbies.

    – White people should have more children. I just created one myself. It is imperative that white populations grow, to protect themselves and the planet’s ecology – they are the only ones who give a damn about the latter.

    – Black, brown, and yellow people – Africans of all stripes, Indians, Filipinos, Mestizoids, etc. – are causing horrifying overpopulation worldwide, and, specifically, in what used to be the U.S.A., via their invasion thereof (which is displacing and contributing to decreased fertiltity among native whites).

    – Please consider leaving Vermont more often, or at least studying Steve’s excellent work (in handy, graphic presentations) about trends for population both here and abroad.

    I write this stuff with no ill will; as a reproducing white woman, you are doing God’s work.

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    – Black, brown, and yellow people – Africans of all stripes, Indians, Filipinos, Mestizoids, etc. – are causing horrifying overpopulation worldwide
     
    None of the cited people are "yellow." Filipinos come close, but they are brown-ish, not yellow.

    Also, East Asian countries such as Japan and South Korea are experiencing a large fertility DROP rather than "causing horrifying overpopulation." Even China (due to its previous one-child policy) is expected to shrink in population not too long from now.

    I know you are given to hyperbole and slogans, but try to be factual.

    White people should have more children. I just created one myself
     
    I am assuming this is with your Columbian wife. Have you had her ancestry tested genetically? You know, to make sure that she was as "white" as you are?
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  90. Anonym says:

    Hate is such a strong word. Surely the SPLC will have no problem with some intense dislike groups.

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  91. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @AM
    "But then, hey, I’m active with the hateful CAPS"

    Ah, that would explain all the time arguing with me against humanity. ;)

    "Population control" is very much an idea that took over a generation; the actual consequences, physical and mental, on Americans never very really explored. I know my generation shrugged and ignored it or basically sterilized themselves.

    The millennials are on course to take all the advice about humans being an absolute scurge of the planet to heart and have absolutely abysmal family formation rates.

    Not only are y'all about to get "stabilization", it's going to smaller very quickly.

    But yippee! No smelly people to mess up the planet. I'm so relieved that the high average IQ of whites has lead to such wise decision making.

    They didn’t realize PopControl is for other people.

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  92. Twinkie says:
    @Autochthon
    Wow. That's quite a non sequitur.

    Let me be explicit:

    – I've written extensively here about the unsustainable use of water for agriculture in California and the sinking Central Valley: problems caused by overpopulation: these farms exist to feed people, not as hobbies.

    – White people should have more children. I just created one myself. It is imperative that white populations grow, to protect themselves and the planet's ecology – they are the only ones who give a damn about the latter.

    – Black, brown, and yellow people – Africans of all stripes, Indians, Filipinos, Mestizoids, etc. – are causing horrifying overpopulation worldwide, and, specifically, in what used to be the U.S.A., via their invasion thereof (which is displacing and contributing to decreased fertiltity among native whites).

    – Please consider leaving Vermont more often, or at least studying Steve's excellent work (in handy, graphic presentations) about trends for population both here and abroad.

    I write this stuff with no ill will; as a reproducing white woman, you are doing God's work.

    – Black, brown, and yellow people – Africans of all stripes, Indians, Filipinos, Mestizoids, etc. – are causing horrifying overpopulation worldwide

    None of the cited people are “yellow.” Filipinos come close, but they are brown-ish, not yellow.

    Also, East Asian countries such as Japan and South Korea are experiencing a large fertility DROP rather than “causing horrifying overpopulation.” Even China (due to its previous one-child policy) is expected to shrink in population not too long from now.

    I know you are given to hyperbole and slogans, but try to be factual.

    White people should have more children. I just created one myself

    I am assuming this is with your Columbian wife. Have you had her ancestry tested genetically? You know, to make sure that she was as “white” as you are?

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  93. @AM
    "For example, if the population of the Colorado River watershed weren’t growing so fast, there’d be a little water left over to replenish the Salton Sea and keep it an attractive lake like it was was when my family visited it in the 1960s."

    I would recommend an intro course in Western water law, which is fascinating stuff. It turns out agriculture has first dibs on all that water, with residences being 3rd in line for water after industry. If the stats I learned from 20 years ago still hold, CA agriculture is still the main user of CO river water.

    In other words, if you want water in the rivers, please stop buying lettuce and strawberries in January.

    From the stuff I read over the years, it's never the number of people- it's always how we were managing development.

    Sure have 2 kids for "the environment". What actually happens in the West is we use our spare time to get insanely wealthy and take ski and beach trips and eat out of season fresh vegetables and generally cr*p on the environment. It's not like the Amish are known for corporate ag farm that makes sure that millions of people have access to cucumbers in February.

    I would recommend an intro course in Western water law…

    Does that include viewing Chinatown?

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