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iSteve commenter Spaulding Smails [Smails or Smalls?] says:

… there’s one particularly bizarre (in my dumb opinion, anyway) aspect of this smirk insanity that goes unmentioned in your article: borderline-hysterical journal obsessions with being bullied in HS (and to a lesser extent, college).

I first noticed this during the Kavanaugh imbroglio: a whole subset of people oftentimes well into middle-age who I would imagine enjoy six-figure salaries and a decent amount of social standing (at least in their blue-check, NPR tote-carrying circles) falling to pieces reminiscing about being abused, to varying degrees real or imagined, by the kids who were richer/whiter/more popular/stronger/thinner/more heterosexual etc. than they. It struck me as, if genuine, a sign of some woefully maladjusted people.

I mean shit, New York Magazine ran a piece solely comprised of interviews with five people (including an overweight gay Latino, of course) who went to Catholic high schools/colleges for varying degrees of time and had various unpleasant interactions with affluent-ish white teens who could probably be best described as being properly socialized. No, really:

https://www.thecut.com/2019/01/catholic-school-alumni-respond-to-covington-catholic-video.html#_ga=2.139081203.1993663772.1548078220-1873303599.1539095604

Unsurprisingly, most of the journos and other commentariats writing these lame pieces or melting down on Twitter aren’t the most visually arresting people, to say the least. I doubt many of them were getting laid on prom night. I guess what I’m wondering is how much of this is just virtue-signalling schtick/grievance kabuki theater performance art vs. actual emotional trauma/damage from largely benign and typical experiences in their formative/teen years? Like, how genuinely defective and broken are these people?

Long, meandering blurb, I know. I’m goofing off at work while writing this. Been reading your stuff for close to ten years, though.

A huge difference between The Sixties and The Current Year is that The Sixties were the Revolt of the Good Looking (e.g., Beatles) and/or the Cocky (e.g., Rolling Stones), while The Current Year is the Revolt of the Unattractive and Uncool.

 
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  1. clyde says:

    I guess what I’m wondering is how much of this is just virtue-signalling schtick/grievance kabuki theater performance art ….

    At least 60%. Due to everyone having grievances these days and wuz a victim too, but he/she/etc. overcame it. They are the heroes in their own movies. Today’s victimology is dredging old stuff that was (better) left alone for decades, but now runs trendy. Mucho retconning going on too. Of course!

  2. IHTG says:

    A huge difference between The Sixties and The Current Year is that The Sixties were the Revolt of the Good Looking (e.g., Beatles) and/or the Cocky (e.g., Rolling Stones), while The Current Year is the Revolt of the Unattractive and Uncool.

    Relevant to this is why conservatives who say stuff like “after World War T, the left will move on to legalizing pedophilia!” are getting it wrong. Pedophilia, fundamentally, is about lust – a perverse lust, but lust. The SJW agenda isn’t about that.

  3. The ’60s were the revolt of the spoiled. The Current Year is the outcome of their successful coup d’etat.

    The Uncool are the ones who wish they were more spoiled. They aren’t revolutionaries but Quislings.

  4. The Current Year is the Revolt of the Unattractive and Uncool.

    They certainly are revolting.

    I think an analogy can be made between the delusions of the 60s and the hangover of the 70s – and now. In the 60s, because of pills (contraceptive and psychedelic) people thought they could indulge in utopian “free love” and get a shortcut to spirituality through drugs. This led to a lot of regrets and pathological behaviour in the 70s.

    Now the Utopianism is Technological. Relationships have been outsourced to Tinder, Community to FB and Twitter. And like the 70s, we’re heading into an almighty hangover. All of our needs and desires are subservient to the god of convenience.

    • Replies: @Anon
  5. Jake says:

    ‘Unsurprisingly, most of the journos and other commentariats writing these lame pieces or melting down on Twitter aren’t the most visually arresting people, to say the least. I doubt many of them were getting laid on prom night. ‘

    That makes me think of Michel Houellebecq’s idea that the sexual revolution, being necessarily entwined with predatory capitalism, has created a great deal of emotional instability and worse: utter insanity and amorality.

    • Replies: @L Woods
  6. The left has long romanticized the 1960’s era of street protesting. For example, the George Soros “color revolutions” around the world got breathlessly covered by the American media as being terribly important and glamorous.

    Yet, I have noticed that the gilet jaunes protests in France (which seem to be largely organic) have been met with deafening silence by the American media.

    Is it a simple case of who/whom?

    • Agree: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Buck Ransom
  7. slumber_j says:
    @clyde

    Today’s victimology is dredging old stuff that was (better) left alone for decades, but now runs trendy.

    Contra the “Helping Professions,” in my actual experience almost everything genuinely upsetting in life is best left alone for a long, long time. Otherwise–at least if you’re me–you just end up picking at the scab over and over, and increasingly intensely. And given the highly imperfect nature of memory, your ideas about whatever trauma you suffered are thereby amplified and made increasingly untethered to reality.

    If I’m right, the trendiness you indicate could be inflicting real harm on people by encouraging them to revisit this stuff.

    I’d say that if they were honest they should call them the “Hurting Professions,” but “profession” isn’t the right word.

    • Replies: @Spaulding Smails
    , @Clyde
  8. kihowi says:

    What they don’t understand is that the popular kids will always be the popular kids. If in the past they were richer and cooler than you, now they’re more oppressed, more mentally ill, more special in their suffering. You either have the skills to know what puts you over everyone else and to be that, or you don’t. There’s no such thing as losers becoming heroes.

    That’s the infuriating thing about victim culture…they’re never victims! We’re supposed to believe that the most combative, loud, manipulative, socially ruthless homosexuals are having a hard time? They’d be on top at any time! 150 they’d beat everyone down with god and morality in the same ways.

    Bottom line: there no such thing as a situation in which the oppressed are able to rub everybody’s nose in their misery. If we hear about it, then you’re not.

  9. Anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:

    ‘A Ha!’

    In today’s anti-Darwinian anti-Nietzschean inverted world, the weaker and uglier are the strongest and most powerful.

  10. Is it Okay to talk about the sixties again? I was ten in 1954 and 21 when I joined the Army in 1965. Somewhere in the late eighties or early nineties I realized that younger people DID NOT want to hear about the sixties. I think because they had heard enough. I still talk about the old days with people my age but only if asked when speaking with younger folks.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  11. Maybe this kind of fierce resentment is inevitable in a society that is multiracial and tries to pretend everyone is the same.

    We aren’t all equal and the teen years are merciless in making that point. It’s bad enough when we’re mostly one race. But if one race (say … Whites) really are more highly desired, it is going to create permanent resentment by the others.

    In the Old South – which had/has a huge Black population – it was commonly understood by both White and Black that they lived in different worlds.

  12. Oh my god. At the risk of sounding like someone calling into a drive-time morning zoo, long-time reader, first-time commenter. I do like your spelling of my handle as ‘Spaulding Smalls’ btw. Maybe I’ll use it if I ever launch a gangsta rap career.

    But yeah, it really is revenge of the nerds (shaping up to be a dictatorship of the prigs) right now, and it’s far less fun than anyone could have ever imagined. Instead of panty raids and hilarious hazing hijinks we get callout posts and comic-book nerd getting genius grants.

    • Replies: @Hodag
    , @reactionry
    , @Autochthon
  13. @IHTG

    Pedophilia, fundamentally, is about lust – a perverse lust, but lust.

    No. All satanic cults eventually boil down to abusing children, and it’s not just to satisfy a sexual perversion. It’s pervasive enough that even Jesus Christ specifically called it out in the New Testament.

    • Agree: Kevin O'Keeffe
  14. Zpaladin says:

    Reminds me of your insight into the mind of the creator of Mad Men who was reliving his high school years by exacting revenge on the cool WASPs, imagining antisemitism at a school with a large Jewish population. Many writers were not popular in school and now is the time to make. Them. Pay.

  15. Jkl says:

    My Dad, who is a Conservative Vietnam draftee/ Veteran often says the 1960s revolts were genuine because there was the real threat of ending up in a jungle and then a body bag. Today there are no such threats, and all the Left has are restless Millennia minions angry that they can’t be Millionaire YouTube Travel Vloggers.

    • Replies: @Anon7
  16. theMann says:

    Social thermodynamics:

    Every time I encounter one of these sniveling, mewling pukes I just want to put on my stomping boots and have at them. Not only an equal reaction, but a routine act of sanitation as well.

  17. When can we start calling out the anti-catholic bigotry?

    • Replies: @c matt
  18. TBA says:

    If HS trauma is a common problem — and maybe it is — that’s an argument against high school. Not against education, but against centralised teaching. Decentralised learning/teaching, with perhaps only testing taking place in a certain location, is feasible, especially nowadays with computers and the net. OTOH I recently found out that homeschooling is a “front in Russian infiltration”:

    https://thinkprogress.org/americas-biggest-right-wing-homeschooling-group-has-been-networking-with-sanctioned-russians-1f2b5b5ad031/

    What to do, what to do?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  19. There really can be no comparison between 1969 and 2019, when the US was more than 85% European in 1969. Corporations could not afford to antagonize 85% of their market in 1969. Even the razor blade ads back then had an implicit White-racist bias!
    Thanks to Lefty indoctrination, mass brainwashing, and Third-World immigration, which all started in earnest the sixties, now Whitey, more than 55 years later, expects to be kicked in the balls on a daily basis and pretends to like heapings of mass media abuse or at least keep his mouth tightly shut – – – if he doesn’t want a heap lot of trouble coming his way.

    • Replies: @Anon
  20. I note that all of the folks who told their story graduated after 2000. This could be due to the author’s age/peer group or because the memory (“pain”) of these slights fades with time. But don’t think so.

    I think these folks, and those following behind, will be pulling this stunt indefinitely.

    The outsiders from my generation got their revenge through success in life, but for this polyglot mob, that is insufficient. They want to take your job, impoverish you, ruin your kids’ lives, and then mock you and laugh at you. I hate them.

    • Replies: @Jimi
    , @AndrewR
  21. The revolt of the revolting!

  22. A huge difference between The Sixties and The Current Year is that The Sixties were the Revolt of the Good Looking (e.g., Beatles) and/or the Cocky (e.g., Rolling Stones), while The Current Year is the Revolt of the Unattractive and Uncool.

    Tell me about it; how many of today’s revolting Revoltists would love to punch the smirks off these guys’ faces:

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  23. Arclight says:

    The fringes believe they should rule over the broad middle, so our culture needs to be refashioned so that the normal/traditional is considered degenerate and the outliers are more virtuous. This attracts a certain number of ethno-masochists who are like the random white guy in a rap video – they feel superior because the rest of the crowd tolerates their presence, but none of those guys really like him.

    Most of the white progressives have not caught on to this yet, but the reality is that much of the coalition of the fringes still don’t like them even though they are currently political allies, and just as soon as they can be ignored they will be. It may be starting to dawn on some of the Jewish donors who provide a lot of the funding for the Democrats as several of the new House members like Ilhan Omar have absolutely no fear of showing how they really feel. Omar is not an aberration, she is a harbinger of what the party is going to become. I don’t think even people like Pelosi and Hoyer have realized this, but their pet minorities are determined to seize the reins of the party.

  24. “A huge difference between The Sixties and The Current Year is that The Sixties were the Revolt of the Good Looking (e.g., Beatles) and/or the Cocky (e.g., Rolling Stones), while The Current Year is the Revolt of the Unattractive and Uncool.”

    Ok.

    And it at times looks a lot like the revolt of the dumb, too.

    (Bad looks, poor style, not too much brains – but a revolt nonetheless – – reminds me of Punk, too. Punk on for // crystal – – – flakes – – – – an MDMA (=Oxytoxin-driven) – revolt, too, this dumb one now – – – ). Didn’t Marx once say, that one goal of communism was the reign of the – – – not so gifted? – Kitchen personal should occupy the highest ranks of government?!!! – We’re approaching this kind of Marxist utopia – and quite rapidly so, at least in some milieus.

  25. The Current Year is the Revolt of the Unattractive and Uncool.

    So, kind of like the whole “Revenge of the Nerds” thing that happened in the 90s with Silicon Valley, but instead of innovating technology, they innovate outrage.

  26. Anonymous[134] • Disclaimer says:

    Exactly, I have wondered exactly this. How can (at least some of) these middle aged adults still be so consumed with bitterness about their (actual or perceived) low social status 30 years ago, to the point of it dominating their political outlook?

    I didn’t have a great time in high school either. Hell, I was ditched by my date in the middle of the prom (and later found out she was in the early stages of pregnancy, and the father was in his 30s. Top that, blue checkmarks). But I started to get over it pretty much the minute I picked up my diploma and set out in the world.

  27. Anonymous[134] • Disclaimer says:
    @IHTG

    Pedophilia, fundamentally, is about lust

    No it’s not. Not for the left anyway. It’s about:
    1) allowing certain choice immigrant groups to have even larger families / get started on their families even sooner
    2) removing one of the last remaining rhetorical cases for effective parental monitoring and discipline of female teenagers
    3) allowing female teachers and coaches to get their beak wet here and there, so to speak.

    Acceptance of pedophilia in a limited form – limited in such a way that it will still be ‘creepy’ for a heterosexual white male to hit on a high school senior – is a coming front in the war, right after the next front, polygamy.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  28. Thirdtwin says:

    “…how much of this is just virtue-signalling schtick/grievance kabuki theater performance art…”

    All of it. These are the same people whose little kids make pithy political statements which must be shared with the world.

  29. jb says:

    Leftists are becoming more and more militantly utopian these days, and many genuinely believe that a world where nobody is ever picked on, ever, is not only achievable, but will arrive the minute they crush white/male/cis/Christian supremacy, because that is the only thing standing in the way.

  30. Anonymous[558] • Disclaimer says:

    OT/ Black Israelite Greatest Hits

    These guys are actually pretty funny (if you’ve been desensitized to racial slurs). A lot of people passing by don’t know how to react, and so the main guy in the middle gets the better of them in about 90% of the interactions.

  31. Anon[311] • Disclaimer says:

    Bryan Singer

  32. ChrisZ says:

    Lurking in Spaulding’s comment is something I’ve been thinking about lately: the realization that the odious Left is consistently directing their assault at boys. White and Christian ones, to be sure; but within that universe, their preferred target is boys.

    Obviously, the Covington affair drives that home in the most vivid way. But back in the Stone Age of the Kavanaugh hearing the Left chose not to attack K as an adult, but rather his boyhood proxy.

    “Haven Monaghan” and the Duke LaCross players might be further examples. But the Left’s attacks on that older cohort (college-age men) have failed so spectacularly that it looks like they have retrogressed to targeting a younger, more “vulnerable” group. Make of that what you will: Is it an example of the Left’s fundamental pussy-hood? Is it a weird mutation of pederasty? Who knows?

    But the good news is (A) that teenage White Christian boys turn out to be not so “vulnerable” after all (God bless ‘em’); and (B) nothing red-pills normies like the prospect of an attack on their boys.

    I think there’s something biological to (B). Even on our side, people weren’t eager to fight in defense of Kavanaugh himself, UNTIL it became clear that the Left was angling to use that hearing to criminalize boyhood behavior, period. At that point, it became a defense not of some careerist lawyer, but of one’s own posterity. The Covington spectacle of boys under attack provoked much the same response, in spades.

    • Replies: @Spaulding Smails
  33. Carol says:

    I’ve hated the anti-bullying crusade since the start. I won’t even use the B word. Why would someone admit their own social failure like that.

    And I think now it’s being used to obscure real problems of NAM violence and intimidation in schools. They don’t fight fair. You take on one and they’ll all pile on. That goes quite a bit beyond “bullying,” which sounds more like an Our Gang comedy.

  34. anon[229] • Disclaimer says:

    I read some boffin somewhere saying that, psychologically speaking, high school is exactly the wrong thing at exactly the wrong time: teenagers are relatively fragile, and the worst thing you could do is warehouse them with other teenagers.

    No idea how true that is, but I do recall thinking it comports with observed reality: there’s a whole lot of grown-ass adults, even old-age pensioners, who clearly haven’t gotten over whatever happened to them in high school.

    Apparently a lot of them became journalists.

    (By the way: when did “journalist” replace “reporter”?)

  35. Anon[311] • Disclaimer says:

    A huge difference between The Sixties and The Current Year is that The Sixties were the Revolt of the Good Looking

    Elvis didn’t see it that way. He thought 50s rock n roll was cool whereas Beatles and new stuff was sissy. He would have loved a Beatles Demolition.

    60s pop culture was complicated. Yes, it had a lot of Fab stuff, but it also about the personalization of pop culture that went against the industry-favored idols or one-dimensional archetypes. I think one of the reasons why so many 60s rockers were inspired by Buddy Holly was that he was such an unlikely star. He looked like a geek who wooed the girls. And who was the ‘spokesman of the generation’ and biggest influence in the 60s? Bob Dylan, a most unlikely rock star. Dylan influenced Beatles and Stones but wasn’t influenced by them(though he was inspired by their success).

    Today, the internet and PC have universalized narcissism to the point where even someone like Lena Dunham thinks she should be a star. (At least Streisand in 60s had singing and comedic talent.) Also, PC activism is like sports for dorks, but then, this was a factor in the 60s as well. Many Jewish radicals on campuses turned to radicalism for sex appeal since they weren’t the jocks type.

    But in some ways, due to rise of the Pop Idol as fixture of culture and rap’s emphasis on machismo, the current culture is more about Looks and Image than variety of personalities and oddities of vision.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  36. Jake says:
    @IHTG

    Do you really believe that crap? If so, you are hopelessly naive and/or slave to some remarkably stupid idea.

  37. Stick says:

    So you suspect daddy issues? Well, yeah.

  38. I recall seeing a photo of you during your Rice years, Steve. Bespectacled and none-too-handsome, even (if my memory serves me correctly) a little zit-beset. I can’t imagine you were too popular during your high school days either. Shame on you for recirculating that mean-spirited comment. As for bullies, the Republicans definitely seem to like them. Remember the highly corrupt and undoubtedly mob-connected Staten Island congressman Michael Grimm and how he threatened to punch out a reporter for asking challenging questions? Typical Republican for our era. Fascism is all about bullies, and that’s exactly where we headed. Pull off Trump’s comb-over and you’ll have another Mussolini, although older and less muscular and certainly much less effective. With the delays he’s causing by not paying the T.S.A., he can’t even get the planes to fly on time. By the way, fascism has a strong appeal to gay men with a fetish for rough trade, which is why when a politician is unmasked as a closeted homosexual, he’s almost always a Republican.

  39. Art Deco says:

    Revolt of the Good Looking (e.g., Beatles)

    I think McCartney might have qualified as mildly handsome. The rest were quite ordinary (and badly groomed). Come to think of it, I don’t think young men who made a good living out of popular music in that era were typically handsome in the manner of film actors. The ones I can recall off hand (e.g. the Cassidy brothers, David and Shawn) had brief careers during which they appealed to early-adolescent girls and almost no one else. I suppose the Osmond Bros. had a more durable and variegated audience, but they’ve always been anti-hipsters.

  40. Lagertha says:
    @IHTG

    If it is not obvious to you that Progressives/Democrats/Leftists are absolutely trying to blur the lines for the American people to accept pedophilia, or an eventual acceptance that it is ok for adults to have sexual relationships with teens and children, you are really quite stupid. Look how they are titillated with prepubescent trans drag queens so much that every week some talk show brings these kids on their show. And, SJWs are absolutely peddling the idea that parents have a right to give hormones to young children if they (parents & child) believe they are the wrong gender. This obsession with sex is macabre since these kids are not even sexually active. No, SJW want all barriers and taboos eliminated, and that makes kids vulnerable. I mean, child-brides, beating of wives and clitorectomies in Muslim culture ( who live in the USA) are defended by SJWs as just a cultural difference!

    • Replies: @Anon
  41. @Art Deco

    Art, my wife dragged me to the Rock and Roll HOF this past summer. What surprised me more than anything, using their stage costumes as a guide, was how small many of the rockers were. There was a fringed jacket that belonged to Elvis that looked like something from the Junior Department at Sears.

  42. Anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    I went to a public charter/ magnet high school. Out of the couple hundred students, there were at most two dozen who weren’t hopelessly awkward nerds (I was in the latter group.)

    I went there because my parents forced me to, though most students chose it for themselves. What I noticed at the time was that only me and a handful of other kids at the school had any normal teenage defiance or rebellion. All of those nerdy kids, with no one to bully them, were hopeless sycophants of teachers and were big fans of following the rules and boundaries adults set for teens. They didn’t smoke pot. They didn’t pair up with each other and have teenage sex. They didn’t go to parties. They didn’t question authority in any way. Some of them were devout Christians, and some not.

    Today, they are all raving leftists. Some are “trans” now. Some worked for the Obama administration. They are still hopeless rule-following sycophants. It’s just that the authority has changed. Now, instead of parents and teachers, they blindlessly follow the demands of media and academia.

    These nerds were never bullied in high school because there was no one around to bully them. There is something in the nerd soul that needs to follow orders no matter how pointless, arbitrary or evil. Some bullying would have gone a long way in helping these people learn to think for themselves.

    When I got the invitation to go the reunion, I told them I don’t party with communists.

  43. JimB says:

    Ivy League colleges are the gatekeepers of the most elite impactful professions. And for about the last quarter century their admissions committees have shown conspicuous preference for students who write maudlin essays about their victimhood, usually at the hands of whom Steve would classify as Core Americans. Now the chickens are all coming home to roost. Whinging has become a reliable tool for professional advancement, so now all the opinion makers and corporate boardrooms are filled with people who got into Harvard and Princeton, not exclusively through high achievement but also through the manufactire of personal narratives placing the blame for their failures and difficulties on others. I think this might be what Spaulding Smalls detects as “borderline hysterical obsessions” by journalists. Even the CEOs of Fortune 500 companies are tenderly ministering to their wounded inner child, who they sincerely believe was once upon a time abducted, beaten, and raped in the woods by smirking white male Catholic school boys wearing MAGA hats. How ironic that white Catholics are now perceived as the mindless perecutors — perhaps the last class of people who believe eternal salvation rests on personal accountability for their sins and striving toward moral perfection as clearly defined by 2000 year old texts at the foundation of Western Civilization.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Anon
  44. Lagertha says:
    @Arclight

    Yes, 100%. In a sick way (now, I’m just like a High School mean girl who loves retribution) it will be fun to see when Leftists/Progressives/Dems realize they’ve been smoked. Look how the stupid Women’s March fell apart! Or how Ocasio-Cortez blurts out the truth of the Leftist agenda. Or the alarm of Jews (who desperately try to pretend they are not white) over the BDS movement on University campuses!

    What many Progressives don’t understand is that they are actually, super white privileged, and, are doomed for constantly calling Republicans/Conservatives/fly-over state people that. They really don’t want to become the Proletariat, but they have invited too many socialist fanatics and grievance-collectors into their formerly private circle, for years now, that it will become uncomfortable once those fanatics/true-believers turn on them. I don’t even see a way that they can ever put a white guy on the top of the ticket anymore…especially, a good-looking, white-privilegey guy.

  45. dvorak says:

    A huge difference between The Sixties and The Current Year

    Another difference: the Jewish Liberation of the Sixties meant that ugly Jews had sex with beautiful gentiles who were in the same terrorist cell or commune or college.

    Today we see Jewish Liberation on Twitter take the form of genocidal revenge fantasies against gentiles, motivated by High School or the Holocaust (equally traumatic experiences).

  46. Anon[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    What surprised me more than anything, using their stage costumes as a guide, was how small many of the rockers were. There was a fringed jacket that belonged to Elvis that looked like something from the Junior Department at Sears.

    There is quite a lot of old Japanese armor out there, so you see it displayed all over the place in Japan, and the guys must have been really tiny to be able to fit in it.

    And the old musty furniture displayed at the Louvre suggests that the French were really small.

    I’ve read that Europeans were really small compared to Native Americans. Not only that, arrows traveled further and were more accurate than guns of the time. Footwear worn by Native Americans was more suitable for the environment for use in war. All in all, without disease, the Natives might have prevailed.

    Obviously, head sizes grew, and you wonder how that affected intelligence.

  47. Mr. Moser says:

    Can’t agree. Malcontents and dorks both then and now. Destroying normal America has always been their target. The difference between then and now and why people like Sailer might admire or think well of the 60s dorks and malcontents is that the 60s shits were fringe and had little power. Society, culturally, morally, in every way that mattered, didn’t share their hopes and aspirations. It took courage to challenge society back then.

    Now, standing on the shoulders of those “giants” of the 60s, the dorks and malcontents of today have all the power and have shaped society’s culture and morality to fit their hopes and fears. What courage does it take now to ridicule some teenage White kid? Will the media be outraged? Will future employers use it against you? Will current employers fire you? What real risk is there to undermining normal America?

  48. Anon[318] • Disclaimer says:

    And there was this today:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-covington-students-and-the-calculated-art-of-making-people-uncomfortable/2019/01/23/817ffbba-1e8f-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html

    The most insidious bully in my junior high wasn’t someone who stuffed smaller kids in lockers, but a smaller kid himself: slender, handsome, with a last name that appeared on a big building in town. What he would do, mostly, was stare. Stare and smile, and walk very close to his less-rich, less-handsome targets. Not touching, but close enough to show that he could have touched them if he wanted to.

    Complaining to adults was useless, because he insisted he wasn’t doing anything, and teachers — reading the letter of the school handbook rather than the spirit — were forced to agree.

    And it’s funny, how awful “not doing anything” can feel to the person it’s not being done to. How infuriating or unsettling.

    It’s funny, what a slender rich kid’s vehement denial can do to your mind-set: Maybe he wasn’t doing anything. Maybe he was just smiling. Maybe he was just smiling even when you made it clear you were trying to pass, and you were on the verge of tears? Maybe he was trying to defuse the situation, and you’re the one who was crazy.

    Autogaslighting.

  49. Neuday says:

    The Bolshevik revolution started as the coalition of the downtrodden, marginalized and uncool. This template has been tried before, and worked for quite a while. My hope is that somewhere is our Chad Pinochet to put an end to this madness, but our military leadership seems to be infected with the virtue-signaling mind virus. It certainly appears our armed forces are destined for some unequivocal humbling that should spawn some drastic changes, especially if coupled with hyperinflation and partial debt default. Keep an eye on interest rates and alternatives to the dollar reserve. There are nations that feel that the US has for generations been the strong, attractive high school bully and they the short, weak, locker-stuffed nerd.

    • Replies: @Anon
  50. dearieme says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Aren’t musicians usually small? Classical, jazz, … whatever.

    • Replies: @EH
  51. @IHTG

    Relevant to this is why conservatives who say stuff like “after World War T, the left will move on to legalizing pedophilia!” are getting it wrong. Pedophilia, fundamentally, is about lust – a perverse lust, but lust. The SJW agenda isn’t about that.

    On the contrary, the SJW agenda was launched on a wave of lust. Revisit gay and lesbian (feminist) lib literature and news from the 70’s. Much of it was an explosion of pent up lust being given permission to celebrate itself. Glory holes, the Baths, rampant anonymous and/or promiscuous sex (which eventually contributed to the spread of AIDS), and on and on.

    Much of this got retconned out of the narrative as power was gained and the hormones of older SJWs began to recede. Lust became “Love” and Smash Monogamy became “Family”. The endless party settled down and the budding SJW prudes pushed their way to the front of the line, but the lust has never gone away. “Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”

    As for pedophilia to come, I wouldn’t count it out. Time will tell.

  52. Anon[318] • Disclaimer says:

    The Washington Post’s Pulitzer-winning black fashion reporter ‘splains to us why MAGA hats are evil.

    The MAGA hat. The acronym reads like a guttural cry. An angry roar. MAA-GAA!

    There’s nothing banal or benign about the hat, no matter its wearer’s intent. It was weaponized by the punch-throwing Trump rallygoers, the Charlottesville white supremacists, Trump’s nomination of Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh, Kanye West and proponents of the wall, the wall, the wall.

    The hat has become a symbol of us versus them, of exclusion and suspicion, of garrulous narcissism, of white male privilege, of violence and hate. For minorities and the disenfranchised, it can spark a kind of gut-level disgust that brings ancestral ghosts to the fore. And here, in 2019, their painful past is present.

    To wear the hat, is to take on history and divisiveness. Because whatever personal meaning might be attached to the hat, the new broader cultural meaning overrides. It is too late to save the hat from this fate. And it’s too soon to try to reclaim it and give it new life.

    So Trump supporters, just shut up and be erased. We don’t want any visible indication that you exist.

    A commenter:

    You are offended by the hat because you choose to be offended. You say the hat symbolizes hatred because you and your tribe unilaterally decided that. You don’t care why Trump’s supporters wear the hat. If you did, you would ask them.

  53. @Arclight

    “Most of the white progressives have not caught on to this yet, but the reality is that much of the coalition of the fringes still don’t like them even though they are currently political allies … I don’t think even people like Pelosi and Hoyer have realized this, but their pet minorities are determined to seize the reins of the party.”

    I have to disagree. I think most lefties do know that many Hispanics, and especially most Blacks don’t like them. Rank and file White lefties and their polictical and cultural leadership believe their army of brown people will continue to function as their canon fodder as they have been for the past few decades, albeit with a few more in high-profile political positions. I don’t see any reason why in the near or intermediate future that they would be wrong about this.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
  54. Ibound1 says:

    So true. Definitely a great many repulsive looking people on the other side. They are bitter, loathe themselves and want to punish everyone for their misery. Kathy Griffin barely looks human to me. What is strange is we are letting these people, who do not seem in the least bit normal to me, control the debate. We are letting ourselves be ruled by the repulsive and abnormal and even insane – by a freak show. It is like we have made the demented banjo player from Deliverance our national symbol.

  55. @Buffalo Joe

    Ditto the museum clothing experience, but mine was at the Nimitz Museum of the Pacific War in Fredricksburg.

    Two things always strike me when watching an old news clip/reel. The first is the lack of tattoos, and the second is how thin everyone was until relatively recently.

  56. phil says:
    @IHTG

    Shaming priests who indulge in pedophilia is also an important aspect of the war on white Catholics. It is taboo to attack priests for homosexuality because, as we all know, being gay is good.

    It is also routine to mock nuns in movies. Harvey Weinstein etc.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @Anon
  57. Mike1 says:

    This is accurate but it is not even close to a left wing only thing. The National Review piece by Nicholas Frankovich was the most hysterical reaction to this incident that didn’t include direct calls to violence.

    Even very conservative people making the same point say things like “The “smirking” Covington kid (or Brett Kavanaugh before him) becomes a stand-in for the hated adolescent alpha, who probably was as bad as they remember.” Apparently it is simply a thing that writers feel that they were put upon. It helps to explain why the universe of conservative writers is so small and why half of them are fake.

  58. @Art Deco

    I don’t think I’ve ever encountered a single woman – from teenagers to old ladies, and even among those who don’t care for his music – who did not think that Elvis Presley (as a young man, mind you; not after he’d let himself go) wasn’t one of the best looking guys they’ve ever seen….

    • Replies: @Anon
  59. Anonymous[410] • Disclaimer says:

    The Sixties were the Revolt of the Good Looking (e.g., Beatles)

    Gonna have to pile on for this one.

    In the specific case of The Beatles, only Paul McCartney could be considered to be cute (and not even handsome in a movie star sense). The rest were definitely not either of those. They were rather a classic example of how male attractiveness runs on two completely separate tracks – looks and status. John, George, and Ringo (especially Ringo) were short in the former and long in the latter.

    But beyond The Beatles, the mod then hippie then classic rock era was notorious for fugly guys. Consider the bookends of Pete Townshend circa 1965 and Tom Petty circa 1980. But looks didn’t matter because they made good music.

    Maybe the difference between then and now is not in level of attractiveness, but rather back then unpopular/awkward/nerdy teens often decided to pick up a guitar, or do something else interesting, or start lifting weights, or whatever, and were able to quickly come out of their shells. Whereas now everyone seems to be stuck in perpetual adolescence and life is always the junior year of high school, well into one’s 40s. Perpetual high school applies not just to the outcasts but to the popular kids too – for example Kim Kardashian is turning 40 soon but still appears to only care about the things (popularity, clothes, looks) that a 14 year old cares about.

  60. ‘… I’m wondering is how much of this is just virtue-signalling schtick/grievance kabuki theater performance art vs. actual emotional trauma/damage from largely benign and typical experiences in their formative/teen years?’

    All of it? In my experience — repeated ad infinitem — people who have suffered real trauma keep quiet about it. It’s those who haven’t suffered at all who parade their ‘suffering.’ Obama tells the world about how he was once followed around the store by a security guard. Female graduate students hold tearful press conferences to describe how a male professor once…once touched their hand.

    A wounded animal tries not to be be noticed. It’s the nipped puppy that yelps. Almost necessarily, a publically paraded injury is trivial. Indeed, such displays all but amount to unconscious admissions that the ‘victim’ has been remarkably sheltered and fortunate in life. Else how could they think that being followed around a store or having to disentangle oneself from a drunken teen constitutes trauma?

    They need to experience actual trauma. It will help them to gain perspective.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  61. Anon[204] • Disclaimer says:

    Mike Bloomberg: Net worth 50 billion USD

  62. Since “1960’s” is in the title, this can’t be COMPLETELY off-topic. It’s really more of a reply to your Identity Stalinism article, which, with 250 posts and rising (I’ve read ’em all) is probably not a good place for another.

    As topsy-turvey as the struggle between the people and the establishment is now compared to the 1960’s, I think there is a lot to be learned for the Deplorable regular Americans and the alt-right. It’s not the ideology, of course, but we really could learn a lot from the TACTICS of the ’60’s radicals. This is really a reply to Buzz Mohawk’s comment with his presentation of the dilemma we are in.

    I’ve said it before, and I’ll keep saying it: There is strength in numbers! I don’t mean the > 100 million regular Americans, a majority being gun-owners. I am talking tactics, not strategy. On the small level, let’s say another incident like this confrontation at the Lincoln Memorial, all that we need is a little more courage by just a few, and a small bit of organization. Imagine that a crowd of 100 gathered after some texting, twittering, etc. to not cause any violence, mind you, but just give its support to these kids. Come up with some chants on the fly, smile, but just don’t give any ground. Even more will join due to the reduction in the ability of a large group to all get punished in various ways by the establishment.

    How can mass tweeting about a few hundred people from various places cause any punishment? It will be difficult for the ctrl-left, Lyin’ Press, all of them to TARGET THE HATRED.

    If, in some other event, the trouble does start along the lines of what happened in Charlottesville, there is a big difference between the railroading of a dozen or two guys by establishment local law enforcement and the courts. vs. doing that to a few hundred. The jails can’t hold you all, the courts can’t deal with it, and pushback from friends/family will be too overpowering for the kind of anarcho-tyrannical “justice” seen in/after Charlottesville. Even the worry of an arrest record will dissipate when it becomes known that “hey, we can’t not hire anyone who’s been arrested for causing a public nuisance. There’d be no one left to hire.”

    Do you all see the parallels to the 1960’s? I’ll have to bring up Alro Guthrie’s Alice’s Restaurant Massacree (in four-part harmony) again with:

    “… and the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean ‘n’ ugly ‘n’ nasty ‘n’ horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me and said, “Kid, whad’ya get?” I said, “I didn’t get nothing, I had to pay $50 and pick up the garbage.” He said, “What were you arrested for, kid?” And I said, “Littering.” And they all moved away from me on the bench there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I said, “And creating a nuisance.” And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing, father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the bench. And everything was fine, we was smoking cigarettes and all kinds of things, …”

    Young people, study this stuff. Watch some movies on Netflix. It will take just a little more strength via numbers to flip this whole thing one day. In hindsight, we’ll wonder why it didn’t happen 10 years back.

    • Replies: @Dtbb
    , @Travis
  63. Speaking of the current year, the Atlantic documents the horrors of burnout in modern Millennial life:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2019/01/marie-kondo-fyre-fraud-and-tvs-millennial-burnout/580753/

    So, a pair of promiscuous Hollywood gays trying to tidy up is heroic, and they’re making tragic documentary films about a music festival that turned out to be a scam.

    These humanoids won’t make it through the first five minutes of any collapse scenario.

  64. Anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe warehousing both sexes of youngsters together, most of whom are not qualified for real intellectual study, during their hormonal peak wasn’t such a brilliant progressive idea after all. “High school” instead becomes the eternal you-know-what

  65. Anonymous[103] • Disclaimer says:
    @IHTG

    Uh, justice-warrioring is about nothing else but lust. The boot stamping on the human face gets their engines going

  66. Jack D says:
    @Arclight

    In the NY Times, black critic Wesley Morris has a long essay where he disses on Green Book, Driving Miss Daisy and any other movie that shows that friendship between the races is possible, other than paid friendship which is not really friendship at all – it’s just another name for prostitution. He does however (surprise, surprise) like Spike Lee, who in his opinion should have gotten the nomination for Do the Right Thing, In his view DTRT realistically shows that racial reconciliation really isn’t possible, instead of the feel good Driving Miss Daisy.

    Really what the essay comes down to is a warning that the Academy had better give the award to the black guy this time – Lee is up again with a movie that shows white people as KKK, again against this years feel good Green Book. This time the black guy has been promoted from chauffeur to boss but that’s STILL not good enough for Morris. The fact that IRL Don Shirley and Tony Lip apparently remained friends for the rest of their lives doesn’t count. Friendship between black and white really isn’t possible – there’s too much bad blood. All these movies showing racial reconciliation are liberal white people fantasies – when black artists address the question, they show that “proximity to whiteness is toxic, a danger, a threat”.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/23/arts/green-book-interracial-friendship.html

    This is the irony in all of this – white liberals want black people to love them but black people aren’t really interested in loving crackers – they are just not that into you. The bottom line that you get from reading Morris’s essay is that he really doesn’t like white people, he like people of his own race and doesn’t really feel the need to hide it. Only white people are required to like people of other races.

    If you look at the NY Times comments there are a lot of whites protesting that Morris is wrong, but I saw very few comments by blacks disagreeing with him. Maybe this is because blacks don’t read the Times in the 1st place, but I think that Morris is a fairly good reflection of what blacks really think and here he is writing for a white audience and being polite – I can only imagine what blacks say among themselves.

  67. Anon[305] • Disclaimer says:

    Some of this comes from the fact that the hysterical complainers are coming from the divorce generation. Many of them didn’t a father in their family to tell them to toughen up, life is hard, life is unfair, deal with it.

    Secondly, earlier generations didn’t have the internet to project your instant personal and/or trivial complaints. The adolescent whining that used to be confined to one’s individual household and personal circle of friends is now overheard by the entire planet. The big mistake the rest of the world is making is taking adolescent angst seriously instead of recogizing that for most people, it’s just a phase. For the rest, they’re genuinely disfunctional and will always be that way, so just ignore them.

  68. A huge difference between The Sixties and The Current Year is that The Sixties were the Revolt of the Good Looking (e.g., Beatles) and/or the Cocky (e.g., Rolling Stones), while The Current Year is the Revolt of the Unattractive and Uncool.

    The Beatles were good looking Limeys? Gal Gadot is a hot lady actress? Not moderating my comments on through?

    Red solo cup guy has completely and totally lost his mind.

    I don’t care how much tail those Beatles bastards got or where they got it, or if the tail had one leg or not, to say the Beatles were good looking Limeys is nonsense. At least Sailer didn’t do his deranged Gal Gadot boosterism.

    I am a Euro mongrel with English ancestry, I’m a handsome devil compared to those weasel mug rat Beatles who were pushed by the shysters in the music business.

    I’m a handsome devil, James Mason was a handsome Limey devil, the Beatles were not a one of them good looking Limeys.

    The ugliest Beatle got the best tail in Barbara Bach. That is a reasonable opinion supported by all the available data. Taleb would disagree just to be a contrarian and because Taleb has no Northern European ancestry. Taleb also can’t deadlift 500 pounds.

  69. @Arclight

    It’s in fact white progressives that scare the “POC” the most (especially recent immigrants). No race has this subset of people that freakishly hates themselves, other than whites.

    I don’t blame the “POC” for following along – they’re told to follow the white liberals and they’ll get unlimited power and make the country their own. When they don’t, the liberals direct them to blame the evil racist conservatives.

    The other interesting fact is that in Canada anyways, many “POC” have *never met a white conservative*. They go through school with these creepy liberal teachers and think all white people are like this.

    White liberals are running out of territory, though. You can only be a white liberal in an exclusively white, urban area. As the urban white areas are dwindling, they will simply run out of space.

  70. @Intelligent Dasein

    The 60’s was about “let’s party with drugs!”

    Now it’s, “oh crap, our parents partied with drugs!”

    Either way, American public HS’s (and Jr. Highs) are at the root of the problem. If they really cause future adults to harbor this much resentment and anguish then we need to dynamite the entire edifice and start over with a new model. Jobs, tutoring, homeschooling, apprenticeships – anything but grouping a ton of little brats together to torment and corrupt each other.

  71. That New York Magazine article is awful. Basically, an attempt to smear Catholic school culture as somehow toxic and, you guessed it, not “multicultural” enough.

    You’ll notice however that “bullying” is not what it used to be. None of the interviewed outcast losers was getting beaten up for their lunch money. Nor were they being insulted or picked on.

    Rather, their alleged oppression is all about their own feelings and what they speculate that others were thinking. Basically, they just didn’t get what they believe was their fair share of esteem. That’s the new definition of “bullying.”

  72. Lurker says:
    @Arclight

    the Jewish donors who provide a lot of the funding for the Democrats

    A lot = 50%

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @Jack D
    , @snorlax
    , @Jake
  73. MarcB. says:

    A lot of this resentment has more to with not being a part of the high school A-list rather than living in fear daily of being dumped head first into the hallway garbage can on the way to first period. So many of these whiners have spent decades deluding themselves into thinking that they are funnier, smarter, better looking, and cooler than they really are, and they can’t figure out why they have been so unfairly excluded from the reindeer games.

    So their adult lives are spent forging pathways to the current version of the cool kids club while being every bit as nasty and exclusionary as they feel the crowd that ignored them were in the process. I saw this dynamic play out in the underground music scene and various hipster circles, where much of this extended adolescence is a battle for primacy in a smaller pond as compensation for being the low teenager on the totem pole. The PUA scene is another place these demons haunt males well into their thirties who will ceaselessly attempt to bed the grown-up archetype of the pretty secondary school cheerleader long after the popular people have gotten on with their adult lives.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  74. A huge difference between The Sixties and The Current Year is that The Sixties were the Revolt of the Good Looking (e.g., Beatles) and/or the Cocky (e.g., Rolling Stones), while The Current Year is the Revolt of the Unattractive and Uncool.

    Damn! This is the gold star comment of the year!

    I came to the exact same conclusion while working out in the gym several weeks ago.

  75. @Art Deco

    I think McCartney might have qualified as mildly handsome. The rest were quite ordinary (and badly groomed).

    Thank you, Mr. Deco, I wrote my comment before reading any of the other comments and I disagreed with Mr. Sailer too.

    I also was grateful that Sailer didn’t pull his Gal Gadot is Hot nonsense. Sailer hasn’t done any Gadot boosterism or mentioned he’s 6 feet 4 inches tall recently, that’s good.

    HAPPY NEW YEAR!

  76. Jack D says:

    I guess what I’m wondering is how much of this is just virtue-signalling schtick/grievance kabuki theater performance art vs. actual emotional trauma/damage from largely benign and typical experiences in their formative/teen years? Like, how genuinely defective and broken are these people?

    It’s probably both. Almost no one fully enjoys their teenage years – there are always growing pains, bullying, awkwardness, etc. Even the bullies themselves usually have troubles at home. It may be worse if you are fat, ugly, poor, unpopular, gay, etc. but most people get over it. A lot of this is retconning, especially now that it is fashionable to dis on horrible mean Catholic school boys (and girls if Trump nominates Barrett – you just wait) like Kavanaugh and the MAGA hat boys. This is like the women who dated (read:had sex with) Harvey Weinstein and wrote him fawning notes afterward but now that they know that they will be praised (and maybe even financially compensated) for coming forward, they realize that they were really raped by him.

  77. slumber_j says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    how small many of the rockers were

    Yeah, they’re all tiny. One time in maybe 1990 a friend of mine and I stopped into an almost completely empty Dan Tana’s in West Hollywood for a late-night drink. Propping up the bar with a couple of other people, we became aware that in the back-corner booth Bruce Springsteen was having dinner with Patti Scialfa and some dude.

    Everybody’s at the bar is freaking out about this, but nobody goes and bugs him. When he’s finished with dinner, Springsteen walks over to the bar and introduces himself around and shakes everyone’s hand in what I took as tacit thanks for having been left alone. Super-cool move.

    Turns out he’s like five foot-nothin’. Rock ‘n’ roll exists so that short guys can get laid.

  78. Jack D says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Elvis was around 6′ tall (maybe a hair less) so I don’t know what you saw – maybe it shrunk in the wash. Of course in his younger days he was a lot skinnier than later.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    , @Anon
  79. Anonymous[339] • Disclaimer says:

    Whenever I see some middle-ager saying that some trivial incident that hurt his feelings at age 17 has been a source of lifelong torment…all I can think is that this is somebody who must have had an incredibly placid, pleasant, carefree adulthood. I envy him for that.

  80. slumber_j says:
    @Art Deco

    I think McCartney might have qualified as mildly handsome. The rest were quite ordinary (and badly groomed).

    I thought George was supposed to be the dreamy one. But I’m generally a really bad judge of male looks.

  81. Jack D says:
    @slumber_j

    Springsteen is of average height but we expect stars to be larger than life so he appeared small to you. If you want really small, Billy Joel is 5′-5″. His wives, who tend to be supermodels, tower over him.

  82. I was born in 1961, so the ‘6os are not my own definitional decade, that was the ’70s. The 1970’s were an ugly decade, degrading in many, many ways. At the time, I did not realize how ugly it was, though I lived in the dangerous and decomposing city of Detroit. I attended a working-class Catholic school and know one thing for certain: If I had been in a similar situation with the (decent young men) guys I hung around with, we would have kicked the shit out of all those harassers, and in short order. If the old Indian got in the way, he would have been punched out as well. Indiscriminate (often but not always black on white) violence was a part of working class NW Detroit in those days. You did not go starting shit, but it was no use running from it either. After about 5 minutes of that hectoring assault, maybe less, we would have tuned them up. And the Detroit cops would have looked at the facts on the ground, and sent us on our way as long as no weapons or stomping were involved.

    I don’t claim that this reaction would have been better than the response of the Covington crew, only that other reactions to bullshit harassment from strong young men is possible. My hat is off to those boys, but… sometimes standing your ground is going to require clearing it of people who want to take it from you by force.

  83. Am I the only one who, looking at Smirk Boy, sees someone more likely to be the VICTIM of having his head shoved in a toilet than the PERPETRATOR of same?

    The thing about a punchable face is–that’s who gets bullied.

  84. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Lurker

    Donald Trump donated as much to his own campaign as the top 4 donors did to Hillary’s.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/

    This isn’t a direct reply to you, it is just another interesting fact.

  85. @slumber_j

    Wasn’t “it gets better” an anti-bullying PSA circa 10 years ago? Directed towards gay teens in particular? I seem to remember that being a thing like, idk, early Obama-era. Obviously this sentiment did not last through the late Obama-era; now the approach seems to be to dredge whatever ‘it’ is up all day, every day. It’s like your grievances, real or imagined, are pretty much your identity. Which obviously does not seem conducive to mental well-being on both an individual and a societal/cultural scale, as has been covered on this blog extensively for the past couple of years.

    • Replies: @E e
  86. Barnard says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Basically, an attempt to smear Catholic school culture as somehow toxic and, you guessed it, not “multicultural” enough.

    Of course Catholic schools are desperately trying to increase the percentage of the student body that is “diverse.” I have anecdotally heard stories of Catholic schools offering full ride scholarships to entire “multicultural” families. They just aren’t doing it fast enough to please the cult marxists who hate them and want their schools closed in the first place. The Catholic church and the schools have shown no willingness to stand up to the left and they don’t understand these people cannot be appeased.

  87. snorlax says:
    @Art Deco

    They maybe weren’t movie stars, but the non-Ringo Beatles were pretty handsome. There’s a reason they were literally chased by screaming mobs of teenage girls everywhere they went. The Stones on the other hand…

    • Replies: @Flip
    , @Anonymous
  88. Jack D says:
    @Lurker

    They also provide 1/4 of Republican donations and Jews are disproportionately rich, interested in politics and Democrat so it is about what you would expect. Generally speaking anything involving very high IQ in America (Nobel Prizes, being a billionaire, chess champion, etc.) is going to be around 1/4 Jewish due to their shifted mean IQ and the effect that this has at the right tail. You see the same effect (in reverse) with black people where they form a disproportionate share of the low IQ population due to their mean being shifted in the other direction. These are statistically expected artifacts of the operation of the normal distribution where the means of two populations differ and don’t require elaborate sociological explanations or conspiracy theories.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  89. snorlax says:
    @Jack D

    And Paul Simon is barely over five feet.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    , @Anon
  90. slumber_j says:
    @Jack D

    5′-10″, says here: I guess you’re right. Still, it was jarring.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  91. snorlax says:
    @Lurker

    I’m pretty sure most of the Dems’ funding comes from labor unions, but my information may be out of date.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    , @Hypnotoad666
  92. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco

    In the early days they were quite carefully groomed. I am no great judge of male beauty but McCartney has what I would call boyish good looks (that a teenage girl would find very appealing), Lennon is OK looking but had a charismatic personality and they other two are not much to look at – Ringo has an enormous schnozz on a small head and George looks like Eddie Munster.

  93. snorlax says:
    @slumber_j

    Male celebrities typically inflate their listed height by 2″ or so. Even the tall ones, such as Trump used to claim to be 6’4″ when he’s actually a bit over 6’2″.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    , @Jack D
    , @snorlax
  94. Tiny Duck says:

    Makes no sense

    Black Men are the most attractive men (handsome athletic creative large genitals muscular hard working) and they all think the Jerk Boys are jerks

    white men are right wing and are the least attractive (unfortunate looking clumsy dull small genitals weak lazy)

    Is it any wonder why white girls are increasingly coupling with Men of Colour?

  95. snorlax says:
    @snorlax

    My mom also briefly met Springsteen in person and says he looked about 5’8″.

  96. @Art Deco

    George Harrison was definitely good looking… Ringo and Lennon less so

  97. Jack D says:
    @snorlax

    Maybe in pre-Internet days you could get away with this but there are entire websites devoted to celebrity height (there are entire websites devoted to every conceivable obsession) so the true height of most celebrities is known (more or less) – e.g. you know that Trump is really 6′-2″ (Google says 6’3″). Generally you can judge from photos of the celebrity standing next to someone of known height – if Trump is standing next to someone who is really 6’3″ and Trump is shorter then he is lying about being 6’4″. Some celebrities (Stallone) are known to cheat with elevator shoes but that’s known too.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    , @gsjackson
  98. @Jack D

    John Lennon always looked like he had Asian ancestry.

  99. @Jack D

    I was waiting for somebody to bring this up. Those Beatle boys had a new style and very funny wit. Plus, the Mersey Beat of their music was, and still is, catchy. The whole picture was much more than just what they individually looked like.

    A female commenter here recently reminded me that women are, in her words, “not as simple minded as men” in their judgement of looks.

    The Stones cultivated a bad boy image, and they were even uglier than the Fab Four, partly on purpose. Notice it worked for them too. Don’t try to understand what women want. Just be who you are and wait for them to notice you.

    Lucky is the man who figures out how to see when a women is into him. Don’t bother hitting on girls who aren’t into you.

    As my father told me, “Women are like streetcars. Just wait and another one will come along.” What that means for a man is that you can wait until one comes along who really likes you as you are. Don’t try to figure out and construct something to catch a woman like a fish. That is a simpleminded and male way of looking at it.

  100. snorlax says:
    @snorlax

    The reason tall male celebrities also add the standard 2″ may be to avoid embarrassing their shorter peers when they’re photographed together.

    Christian Bale used to preposterously list his height as 6’4″,

    which explains this silly story claiming he “lost three inches” that his publicist put out: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/christian-bale-american-hustle_n_4412611

    • Replies: @Svigor
  101. @Buzz Mohawk

    Mr. Buzz Mohawk, will you please tell me why ugly bastard billionaire mass immigration booster Bezos is giving up 70 billion dollars for a dark-haired Charo knockoff?

    If I were president I would call for a wealth tax on billionaire bastards to financially wipe them out. Bezos’s wife could get half of what Bezos got and I would take the other half. Amazon would be obliterated and any electronic services or other things provided by Amazon would be done in-house by the intelligence agencies, the military and other unmentionables.

  102. Pericles says:
    @Jack D

    anything involving very high IQ in America (Nobel Prizes, being a billionaire, chess champion, etc.) is going to be around 1/4 Jewish due to their shifted mean IQ and the effect that this has at the right tail.

    Average IQ of (1/4 pure-bred Ashkenazi + 3/4 white european) is approximately 104.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  103. Forbes says:
    @Jack D

    This is the irony in all of this – white liberals want black people to love them but black people aren’t really interested in loving crackers – they are just not that into you. … Only white people are required to like people of other races.

    I think this is where my theory about the left never suffering from cognitive dissonance comes into play. They don’t allow the contradiction–or irony as you call it–enter their understanding of black/white relations. To remain ignorant of the reality (or perspective) that Wesley Morris identifies is par for the course–ignorance is bliss.

  104. @Jack D

    I used to have a widow’s peak like Eddie Munster. Now a widow could peek at my scalp for days and not find much vestige of it.

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
  105. lhtness says:
    @IHTG

    They won’t go for pedophilia because they are too invested in sexual abuse as a form of trauma and victim status.

  106. Jeff Bozo is premier example of this. Doubt he’s banged more than 10 different chicks in his life.
    He gives up 70 Billion for a washed up ho. He could pick anyone from the SI swimsuit edition if he had any balls, but he’s a pussy soyboy.

  107. Anon[305] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco

    One thing about the Beatles is that they came across as good natured and fun-loving (a real relief after the very serious and unfun 1950s), and that counts a lot with women. But another important point is that the Beatles (at least in their early days) came across as good natured in a group with each other. Men who can get along with a group of other men, and who work well together in achieving a goal, tend to be well-socialized. Being social is also a sign of high testosterone. Women like that quite a lot. Their personal differences only came out later when it couldn’t get in the way of their success.

  108. @Art Deco

    It’s about attitude, not prettiness. Dave Clark was (and is) a pretty weird looking dude, but he was all the rage because he always had that CovCath grin working.

    See also Jagger, Bowie et. al.

  109. @snorlax

    And Paul Simon is barely over five feet.

    And he needed every inch of that when he got into a brawl with Edie Brickell over her insistence on singing that horrible song of hers “What I Am” one more time.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  110. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D

    If you look at the NY Times comments there are a lot of whites protesting that Morris is wrong, but I saw very few comments by blacks disagreeing with him. Maybe this is because blacks don’t read the Times in the 1st place, but I think that Morris is a fairly good reflection of what blacks really think and here he is writing for a white audience and being polite – I can only imagine what blacks say among themselves.

    No, Morris is a bourgeois with a bad attitude, and works in an odd venue where you’re rewarded for having a bad attitude.

    C’mon, Jack, how many disagreeable encounters have you had with blacks in the last 5 years? It’s difficult to build personal friendships across the color bar, but workplace cordial is quite normal. The people who run higher education and the media toss bon bons at people who are maladjusted but articulate about it. It makes them appear much more common than they are and it also warps the personality development of the beneficiaries.

  111. Spud Boy says:

    I was a shy nerd in high school–never went to prom or homecoming. I had maybe one experience you could call a “date”, but I did get straight As without ever taking home a book. I had no trouble getting accepted at a top 5 engineering school, so I had that going for me.

    Almost 40 years on, I harbor no resentment or ill will toward the popular jocks and drama folks who got all the play with girls at the time. It’s actually good training for the real world–face it, the top 5% of most attractive/charismatic dudes get 90% of the women.

    (Thankfully, things turned around for me in college real fast. Lost my virginity in the first month of being away at college. Sorry if this is TMI.)

  112. I had the pleasure of meeting Bruce once. Very nice man, extremely personable and charming — and in a genuine way, not a smarmy show biz way.

    He’s not what you’d call “short”. A little shorter than you might have expected, but not in a “gosh, he sure is short!” kind of way. But he’s so magnetic you’re not really noticing or focusing on his height.

    • Replies: @peterike
  113. @Jack D

    Its a valid point. I will add to it, with it really starting about 10 years later.

    Starting in the mid 70’s (summer of ’76 to be exact) pop society began placing a premium on good looks and coolness. emember Farrah Fawcett?. It all began with her and the pretty boys (Any Gibb, Shawn Cassidy, and Leif Garrett). It was part of the disco aesthetic. This trend increased in the 80’s with the addition of emphasis on fitness as well. A little dip in the early 90’s, due to grunge and heroin chic. Then a resumption in the mid 90’s on, up until about 5 years ago.

    So, we have a 40 year period of emphasis on good looks and coolness. The last 5 years, and last 2 years in particular, is what I call the revenge of the uglies.

    I think some of it is politically driven. Trump, compared to the stereotype of the old white male president, is one of the cool guys. He also has a life-long track record of getting hot looking ladies. Never mind that both Clinton and Obama were among the cool guys too. Trump’s politics is diametrically opposite that of the liberal-left, with a Reaganesque populism thrown in.

  114. And you get paid to write this nonsense. And you don’t think you are part of the decadence of this world. Where is dfordoom when you need him.

  115. Marty says:
    @Art Deco

    Jacks’s closer than you are. I’ll just quote my old basketball acquaintance, a friendly SF rapper named Primo: “white guys guard white guys.”

  116. Forbes says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    their alleged oppression is all about their own feelings and what they speculate that others were thinking. Basically, they just didn’t get what they believe was their fair share of esteem. That’s the new definition of “bullying.”

    Bingo.

    The self-esteem movement in schools is one of the worst initiatives (of a long laundry list) the education blob has promoted. This has caused the seeming explosion in “bullying”–or the explosion of interest about bullying. E.g.. my bad feelings are the result of your bullying.

    The self-esteem movement is an attempt to instill a positive mental state in the student by enhancing one’s self-opinion. Unfortunately, it is the fast-track to narcissism and arrogance as it relates to a self-assessment of one’s self-worth. And it is the rocky road to an accomplishment-free and achievement-free existence.

    One’s esteem (and respect) are earned, not given.

  117. George says:

    “The Sixties and The Current Year is that The Sixties were the Revolt of the Good Looking (e.g., Beatles) and/or the Cocky (e.g., Rolling Stones), while The Current Year is the Revolt of the Unattractive and Uncool.”

    Unattractive and Uncool is typical of the middle aged or worse.

    Searching on images of 1968 France and comparing it with images of the current Gilets Jaunes, the crowd in 1968 was at least 10 years younger, maybe more than 25 years younger.

  118. Lurker says:
    @Art Deco

    Not sure which exalted circles of male beauty you guys are mixing in, my impression was that Paul was quite good looking. I’d read that Paul McCartney was popular with girls even before he was in a band, let alone famous. Of course the source of this information may be Mr. McCartney himself . . .

  119. Jack D says:
    @Pericles

    I don’t mean individuals who are themselves 1/4th Jewish, I mean that (roughly) 1 out of 4 US billionaires, Nobelists, etc. will be (fully or partly) Jewish.

  120. @Spud Boy

    You are a smart and successful man, Spud Boy. You have won the game of life. Your comment is not TMI in my opinion.

  121. JMcG says:
    @IHTG

    The SJW agenda is about taking everything normal people hold dear and destroying it while we watch. Then they move on to requiring agreement with what they have just destroyed. Then they ensure that the new normal is taught to our kids.
    How many “conservatives” do you know that have any issue at all with gay marriage?

  122. @Buzz Mohawk

    It’s preselection.

    Men who believe that women are like streetcars are men for whom other women have come along in the past (i. e. they’ve been pre-selected). Such men are instinctively attractive to women because their genes are likely to make it to the next generation so if the women combines her genes with his, so are hers.

    Which is the name of the game.

  123. Lurker says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Men of Colour?

    You’re a Brit?

    Good grief, I’m ashamed.

  124. snorlax says:
    @Jack D

    It is harder to get away with now, but most of those sites still take their listed heights at face value or subtract 1″. Such as, they give Tom Cruise’s height as 5’7″ or his claimed 5’8″ when he’s well-known to be 5’6″ or less; during filming he stands on a box to avoid being towered over by his statuesque female costars.

    Celebrities and their handlers take elaborate measures and collude with one another to maintain the ruse. They try to prevent photos being taken or published of their standing next to people (e.g. athletes) whose actual heights are known. With rare exception (such as Bale) they all inflate their heights by the same 2″ so as to be consistent with one another. Female celebrities either don’t list their height at all or also add 2″ when there’s a male celebrity (such as a husband or TV costar) they’re very frequently photographed with—Ivana, Marla and Melania implausibly claim heights of 6’1″, 5’9″ and 5’11″—and they vary the their heels’ height depending on the heights of the men they accompany. Cruise’s box is a common practice with the shorter men and sometimes women, such as to get Gillian Anderson and David Duchovny, listed as 5’3″ and 6’1″ (read: 5’1″ and 5’11”), closer to eye level when filming The X-Files.

    The whole thing works surprisingly well; despite being at the pinnacle of the A-list for nearly four decades, Trump’s 6’4″ claim went little-challenged until first a picture of his driver’s license (which said 6’3″) was leaked and later he released the results of his physical (which said 6’2″).

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @snorlax
    , @Jack D
  125. @slumber_j

    Rock ‘n’ roll exists so that short guys can get laid.

    Had Napoleon been around in the Sixties, he’d probably be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, along with the band.

  126. Arclight says:
    @Jack D

    There was a poll a few years back on how racist different groups feel other are…Americans as a group rate blacks as the most racist, and interestingly, blacks themselves ranked blacks as the most racist group in society.

    To the extent that there is racism in society, when it’s just a few people around shooting the breeze that’s not really harming anyone. Full-throated and public declarations of how much you dislike other people is a different matter, and the professional left regularly does this from their perches in major media outlets.

  127. Grumpy says:

    OT:

    Has anyone here heard about this?

    Minnesota’s most conservative Democratic congressman sparked a firestorm on Tuesday with just a few words during a talk radio appearance: “Give Trump the money.”

    That was the judgment of Rep. Collin Peterson, of the 7th Congressional District, on what Democrats should do to resolve the current impasse in Washington over President Donald Trump’s demand for $5.7 billion for a border wall with Mexico — which sparked the ongoing government shutdown, now by far the longest closure in U.S. history.

    “I’d give him the whole thing,” Peterson told KFGO’s Joel Heitkamp, “and put strings on it so you make sure he puts the wall where it needs to be. Why are we fighting over this? We’re going to build that wall anyway, at some time.”

    Thirty-two days into the shutdown, Peterson had seemingly done what no other Democrat in Congress had yet dared to do: accede to Trump’s wall demand, and go against Democratic leaders’ insistence that the wall, an “immorality,” would receive not a dime of taxpayer money.

    https://www.minnpost.com/national/2019/01/collin-peterson-explains-his-give-trump-the-money-remarks-im-probably-the-only-one-left-that-has-the-guts-to-say-what-i-said/

  128. annoymous says:

    These people cannot accept a reality of human interaction: no matter race, creed, code or ethnicity, if you’re ugly you’re going to be less happy than if you’re handsome. You’re SUPPOSED to be unhappy. That’s the scythe of natural selection at work, ruthlessly depressing the self-esteem of those less likely to produce capable heirs. But our fetish for a grotesque impossibility called “fairness” creates endless woe and bitterness.

  129. Flip says:
    @snorlax

    I know young women who claim they would bear Mick’s baby (and he is still having them.)

  130. When I was in high school I had a brief after school gig working security at a haunted house. Alice Cooper apparently had a stake in the venture and would occasionally drop in to promote it and sign autographs. One night I ended up on his security detail and was his personal body guard for about 2 hours (my lame claim to fame).

    He is a remarkably tiny man. I couldn’t believe it when I first saw him; he looked like the little plastic groom on a wedding cake, like I could just reach out and crush him in my fist like a crawdad. If you google Alice Cooper’s height, the internet lists him as 5’10” but that can’t possibly be right. He would need a chiropractor and a tensioning sled just to make it to 5’6″.

    It’s probably not a good idea to believe the billed heights/weights of celebrities. Everything in the entertainment world is fake and managed for affect, so why should that not be?

    • Replies: @Jasper Been
  131. @IHTG

    What?

    The SJW agenda literally forced America to legalize an activity – sodomy – that is based upon what the leaders of our civilization universally considered little more than a disorder. They did this after creating the regime of contraception, and abortion, and easy divorce, all of which were based upon legitimizing lust.

    • Replies: @Anon
  132. @Jack D

    Jack, In the RRHOF there is a corner display devoted just to Elvis, includes a video montage running on a loop. In a case, to the side of the Elvis shrine, is a fringed jacket that even my wife thought looked small. Maybe a size 32-34.

  133. @Art Deco

    Depends on the man, but country musicians of the 1960s were universally well-groomed. Some, in the opinion of my grandmother, were very handsome. Merle Haggard looked like a WESTERN movie star, at least. Johnny Cash could have played a half-Indian movie character. Willie Nelson, believe it or not, was well-groomed at this time.

    • Replies: @Anon
  134. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco

    I think black attitudes mirror (somewhat – remember that virtually all blacks are Democrats) what we are seeing with whites – there is a high-low coalition (Morris at one end and Black Hebrew Israelites at the other extreme) who openly profess to hate white people and a middle group who get along reasonably well with them and bear no special animus. But the latter group are found mostly in places and occupations that don’t really “count” in our society and so they might as well not exist as far as the media is concerned.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  135. @Art Deco

    No, Morris is a bourgeois with a bad attitude, and works in an odd venue where you’re rewarded for having a bad attitude.

    Bingo.

    Normal whites and blacks have never gotten along better, which is why those desperate to appear supernormal pretend to know otherwise.

    Run-of-the-mill Gnosticism delivered half-assedly, as with everything thing else from regressor-past-the-mean Pinch.

  136. @Tiny Duck

    The white man will have his way with you soon, waterfowl

  137. peterike says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I had the pleasure of meeting Bruce once. Very nice man, extremely personable and charming — and in a genuine way, not a smarmy show biz way.

    Since Springsteen has been mentioned multiple times on this thread…

    Steve, any chance of you reviewing “Springsteen on Broadway,” now that it’s on Netflix and won’t cost you $1,000 a ticket? It’s boomer central in a lot of ways. I have strong feelings about it, but I’ll wait for a thread or forever hold my peace.

  138. @snorlax

    I knew a man who worked for one day as Sylvester Stallone’s driver. Stallone fired him at the end of the first day.

    The driver was a tall, young man.

    I asked my acquaintance why he was fired. He told me that Stallone said bluntly, “You’re too tall.” The star could not have a limousine driver getting out, opening the door and towering over him. That would make it clear to the world that Stallone was of average height.

  139. Svigor says:
    @snorlax

    I’m not buying Arnie as 6’2″, either. Someone find me a full-length photo of him standing next to someone of known height (good luck with that, btw).

    I think Arnie’s more like 5’10”, with a small head.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    , @prosa123
  140. snorlax says:
    @snorlax

    They try to prevent photos being taken or published of their standing next to people (e.g. athletes) whose actual heights are known.

    I should add that a lot of athletes, possibly excluding those playing positions (basketball player, pitcher, quarterback) where height is material, also add a couple inches. I (5’9″, rounding up from 5’8½”) met Wes Welker (a listed 5’9″) and took a photograph with him—he’s 5’7″-ish.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  141. @Hypnotoad666

    Hypno, The Left’s”speculative thinking” is smirking to me, and I hate it. There, all even steven.

  142. Jack D says:
    @snorlax

    What normal person GAF whether Trump is 6-2 or 6-4? I imagine that he was probably 6-3+ when he was younger and now is down to 6-2 – everyone shrinks as they get older. You make it sound as if there is some kind of secret celebrity conspiracy for them to all pad their heights.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  143. Lady says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    My female coworkers and I (all thirtyish) were having a silly conversation about our favorite male celebrities. Not only did none of us agree on who inspired our lust, we were generally downright appalled by the others’ choices. I pointed out that this outcome would never occur among a group of men; all men agree on who is hot and who is not. They looked upon this observation as revelatory and also found it highly depressing. I am the only happily married mother there so I can afford to be realistic.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    , @Forbes
  144. @Barnard

    Of course Catholic schools are desperately trying to increase the percentage of the student body that is “diverse.”

    That’s no problem in the UK, where approx a third of the 11-18 age group are now “minority” (it would have been about .01% in 1954). Muslim parents prefer a Catholic school because little Ayesha is less likely to be unrolling a condom onto a banana in sex ed class. They prefer infidels to the Godless.

    Not so good for the native Brit boys though. The days of the “fair fight” after school never existed for the Muslim kids, who tend to bring their older family members along with them, with results ranging from a broken leg (kid in a town near me) to serious brain damage from a claw-hammer.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  145. Svigor says:

    Here’s 6’4″ Tom Brady towering over Arnie:

    Looks like 5’10” was a pretty good guess. Head swole up over the years, though.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    , @Kibernetika
  146. @Hypnotoad666

    A college friend of mine has an interesting theory re: these sorts of imagined slights in particular and oversensitive younger people in general; namely, that this hyper-sensitivity/emotional frailty that at times borders on outright paranoia is basically the result of protracted stimulant use/abuse, i.e. ritalin/adderall/etc. prescriptions for kids/teens/college students etc. While I never had a prescription for any of those meds there was a spell in and after college where I was consuming quite a lot of stimulants that I wasn’t exactly going to doctors for and I can attest that yes, they do tend to make one quite irritable and unpleasant.

    I have no idea how valid of a theory that is on a societal scale and haven’t come across any attempt to shed quantitative light on it but my friend who came up with this is smart as hell (she’s finishing up a PhD program in philosophy at a pretty prestigious private university) and has been prescribed ADHD meds since I think middle school, so I’m willing to entertain the notion more than if it was just some crank saying it.

  147. @Charles Pewitt

    LOL. Bastard Billionaires are also just humans. I believe it was commenter International Jew who recently mentioned here that the Charo knockoff resembles Bezos’s mother. Oedipus is not just a myth.

    My own take, and that of others on this Bezos thing is, as I said, “She must give one hell of a ________.” (Fill in the blank.)

    Really, I think Jeff just got caught fucking somebody he wanted to fuck. There was no plan involved.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  148. @MarcB.

    Mark, the Poster Child/Prom King and Queen for you, would be Spike Lee and Lena Dunham.

  149. @Discordiax

    Dis, I stated before that the lad has poor teeth, a smirk in his case, is probably a smile.

  150. snorlax says:
    @Jack D

    What normal person GAF whether Trump is 6-2 or 6-4?

    Nobody, but the phenomenon of celebrity height inflation is amusing.

    You make it sound as if there is some kind of secret celebrity conspiracy for them to all pad their heights.

    Yes, exactly, although it’s more of an open secret.

  151. Jake says:
    @Lurker

    And what % of donations to Neocon Republicans is Jewish money? 65-75%? With the rest from WASP-loving Evangelicals.

  152. stevecel says:
    @Jack D

    These guys look absolutely atrocious by modern standards. They would all have a hard time finding more than a couple of matches on Tinder.

  153. @Charles Pewitt

    Charles, Take it from a guy whose been around the block…there are “Magic Vaginas.”

  154. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D

    One quibble: Morris isn’t “high”, he’s obtrusive. He’s a salaried employee in a declining industry and likely has no one working under him but an intern. Neil deGrasse Tyson, who runs a consequential component of the American Museum of Natural History or Henry Louis Gates, who has a production staff working for him and all kinds of irons in the fire, are ‘high’ to a degree.

  155. @Art Deco

    Art, I had a thought…Bill Clinton/Vernon Jordan. They were friends, right?

  156. Charles, Take it from a guy whose been around the block…there are “Magic Vaginas.”

    Abra abra cadabra, Bezos’s broad’s vagina is gonna reach out and grab ya.

  157. @Spud Boy

    Spud Boy, Good for you, unless you lost your virginity when you were raped. Otherwise, all is good.

  158. @Svigor

    Svigor, Arnie has Super Bowl rings? What are those hubcaps on his fingers?

    • Replies: @peterike
  159. Jack D says:
    @South Texas Guy

    If anyone had tattoos back in the day, it would be sailors. Weights have ballooned enormously, especially among women. Also people spoke more formally back then – even ghetto blacks would try their best to speak standard English when they were being filmed. And everyone wore hats.

    • Replies: @captflee
  160. @South Texas Guy

    STG, I spent a great day, on my own, in New Orleans visiting the Confederate States Museum and the D-Day Museum. lots of uniforms on display at both venues and again, the men were noticeably smaller than today’s men.

  161. @Arclight

    It may be starting to dawn on some of the Jewish donors who provide a lot of the funding for the Democrats as several of the new House members like Ilhan Omar have absolutely no fear of showing how they really feel.

    I would agree with this. I think it’s starting dawn on quite a few of the Democratic hierarchs that becoming the party of the fringes was probably not a good idea. It has certainly penetrated into the Clinton faction—witness Hillary’s astonishing about-face on the immigration issue. Of course, she opposes immigration for precisely the wrong reasons, but she now opposes it nonetheless. Also, it seems like a growing number of Democratic insiders are coming to the realization that Barack Obama was pretty much a globalist chicken puppet and did not really advance their causes at all. Thus explains the “Whitman, Price, and Haddad” treatment he’s been given by the party ever since the termination of his tepid presidency.

    And that is precisely why I do not count out Joe Biden. The Democrats cannot possibly avoid the conclusion that they probably would have won in 2008 and avoided their current troubles had they just nominated Joe Biden, and they probably would have beat Trump in 2016 had they just nominated Joe Biden.

    Despite all of Biden’s gaffs and faults, and despite the fact that his politics are very much opposed to my own, I kind of admire him. He’s a survivor, a real greaseball (I mean that as a compliment) who continued to dance the party’s tune and protect “the family” even after they stiffed him out of two presidential elections. It takes some real resolute toughness to do that.

  162. J.Ross says: • Website

    What could be more Sixties than spooks working together with domestic terrorists? It has always been an open secret that Antifa in Germany is an unofficial government arm for making dissent dangerous. A German newspaper accuses the modern stasis of relying on Antifa “research” for a recent report on “nazis”/people unhappy with a hostile and unaccountable government.
    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/01/24/german-intelligence-used-antifa-research-to-build-case-against-populists/

    While many of the quotes in the report are sourced directly from videos or from statements made on social media, one, from AfD MP Gottfried Curio, was entirely sourced from an Antifa outlet in which Curio allegedly said: “A birth jihad is in progress, demand the restoration of citizenship right by descent.”

  163. @ChrisZ

    I mean, Becky-bashing is a pretty popular pastime amongst the blue-checks (and those who aspire to have them)…

  164. Jack D says:
    @TBA

    I think kids today are already isolated enough behind their screens – doing that 24/7 would be a big mistake. High school is like boot camp for the rest of your life. Bootcamp is unpleasant but it prepares you for actual combat. If you get put right into combat without going thru bootcamp first you are not going to last a day.

    Traditional American public schools were also very democratic – the doctor’s kid attended right alongside the garbageman’s kid. The public schools I attended in fringe suburban NJ were not racially diverse (for which I am thankful) but they were economically diverse and diverse in terms of social class. There was some sorting in the academic classes that were tracked (they could however include kids who were working class but bright and in my parents’ generation college education was not yet a given even for people of high intelligence) but in non-academic classes and activities (gym, shop, theater, band, etc.) everyone mixed together. I can’t say that I loved all of the working class kids (nor vice versa) but I got to know them and understand them somewhat. Once I got to an Ivy League college and professional school and Big Law law firm, I was never exposed to that kind of diversity again.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  165. J.Ross says: • Website
    @YetAnotherAnon

    A Muslim is never alone and we need to imitate that.

  166. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Charles Pewitt

    Possibilities not yet raised:
    Kegels. Or
    In school you can see two kinds of students, one of whom actually wants to be there and actively participates, while the other (though not stupid, delinquent, or anti-social) expects the teacher to be glad they showed up.

  167. snorlax says:
    @Lady

    No, men disagree too. I’ll give you a few of the bigger head-scratchers I’ve seen:

    • My freshman roommate, who hooked up with a different attractive woman at least once a week, said that Ellen Page was the most attractive woman in the world. (This was before she came out as lesbian). She’s very pretty in a pleasant girl-next-door sort of way, but seriously?
    • My cousin, who always has an attractive girlfriend despite being overweight, a child with a previous girlfriend and no steady employment, said he had a crush on (homely black lesbian) Raven Symoné. We were 12, but still.
    • In high school, three of my friends and I were discussing whom we thought were the three most attractive girls in the school. Two of my choices were seconded by the others, but one of them, who resembled (and still does) the half-Asian version of Jane Russell, was deemed “GROSS!” by all. I asked around afterwards and the consensus agreed with me that they were out of their minds.
    • On my end, I can see why Scarlett Johansson is considered so attractive, but to me she has a sort of uncanny valley look I can’t really get into.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Buffalo Joe
  168. I think it’s the case that American High Schools (particularly large public high schools) are relatively novel and bizarre environments in the context of human history, and are probably very stress and anxiety inducing with regard to social status at precisely the worst time for most people.

    Is there another age in which hundreds to thousands of 14-18 year olds of both sexes are jammed together all day with limited adult supervision? If Dunbar’s number is usually estimated at 150, what is it like to go to a place with 1,500 or 2,000+ teens every day while you’re one of them, unsure about how you fit in anywhere, while your body is changing in sometimes embarrassing ways? Do people of the opposite sex find me attractive? How do I stack up against Joe Quarterback?

    Naturally, these environments were probably optimized for warehousing teens during the day while their parents work with actual education and personal development collateral to this end.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  169. Jack D says:

    You’re probably right but it looks like Brady is wearing extra high heels on his shoes (and 5’11” Gisele is wearing extra thin soled sandals).

    This would all be amusing but apparently there is a big advantage to being tall – taller people supposed earn more, the taller Presidential candidate usually wins, on dating sites many of the women (even women who are themselves short) express a desire to date only men above a certain height, etc. (some people speculate that short women instinctively crave tall men in order to improve the genetic fitness of their potential offspring).

  170. @snorlax

    I’m pretty sure most of the Dems’ funding comes from labor unions, but my information may be out of date.

    I think that may have been a few years ago. We’re now living in the age of the billionaire mega-donor.

    I also understand that public sector unions have taken a huge hit from the Supreme Court decision in Janus v. AFSCME, which allows most workers to opt out of paying mandatory dues.

    But the unions are still able to generate lots of “volunteers” for Dem causes.

  171. No, men disagree too. I’ll give you a few of the bigger head-scratchers I’ve seen:

    There’s a difference between the different women that men find attractive at the outer limits of attractiveness, and what @Lady is writing. All of these men probably find the same hundred or so celebrity women attractive enough to bed, even if they’d rank their preferences slightly differently.

    @Lady is writing that one of these thirtysomething women can find one male celebrity attractive and another “appalling,” and a different woman having the opposite take.

    BTW, Jair Bolsonaro agrees with your freshman roommate:

  172. peterike says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Svigor, Arnie has Super Bowl rings? What are those hubcaps on his fingers?

    Apparently, one is a Governor’s Ring. Who knew there were such things?

  173. Jack D says:
    @snorlax

    Johansson (who is 5’3″ BTW – I guess she takes after her Jewish side rather than her Danish side) is more of a knockout in her figure (especially the chest) than in her face, which from the wrong angle and with the wrong haircut looks kind of butch. However, Hollywood can do magic with hair, lighting, makeup, etc. (not to mention Photoshop) so on a good day she looks great. There is a lot of variability in her photos, where she ranges from meh to ravishing (whereas if you take someone like say Keira Knightley, it’s hard to find a picture of her, even a paparazzi shot, that is unflattering – the camera loves her face. But OTOH she’s flat chested.)

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  174. Mr. Anon says:
    @James Braxton

    Yet, I have noticed that the gilet jaunes protests in France (which seem to be largely organic) have been met with deafening silence by the American media.

    Is it a simple case of who/whom?

    The difference in how the one is treated vs. the other is pretty striking. The Gilet Jaunes appear to be an organic movement of “deplorables”, so the American press takes no interest in them. Not like the interest they showed in all the various color revolutions from Tunisia to Georgia, influenced as they probably were by intelligence agencies and NGOs. Of course the media in this country act as shameless flunkies for the state, so it is unsurprising.

  175. @Discordiax

    Am I the only one who, looking at Smirk Boy, sees someone more likely to be the VICTIM of having his head shoved in a toilet than the PERPETRATOR of same?

    You are correct. That so-called smirk was really the nonplussed reaction of a basically sheltered and dreamy youth, beholding the strange spectacle before him and feeling the pressure of his chums around him.

    There was nothing—absolutely nothing—out of the ordinary about it. It was neither obnoxious nor heroic.

    Both sides in this fracas are raging about something that didn’t even exist. This whole thing is an artifact of our media-obsessed culture and the best thing to do is to simply ignore it.

  176. @James Braxton

    Thanks to the aggressive tactics of the French police, who are firing projectiles called “flash-balls” into the crowds at face level (something that would ordinarily not be permitted against other, duskier groups of protestors), several people have lost an eye. A number of others have had their hands blown off — I saw one such case captured on video uploaded to social media.

    Ordinarily, the mainstream media would be falling over each other to run pictures, interviews and profiles of people they would present as Courageous Victims. But this time, it’s radio silence. The explanation is indeed who/whom. The protestors are by and large non-affluent people from the smaller towns and countryside, people who have been shunted aside in the rush to Globalization and population replacement — in other words, people who are very much unloved by the current ruling class. As for the ruling class, it is beyond reproach because it has been largely purged of white Catholics in this formerly white and Catholic country.

  177. Journos, as Tom Wolfe described, are almost to a man gamma losers in childhood. They never got over the fact that they were losers all through grade school, and instead of accepting it and improving themselves, they constantly anklebite and attack against anyone who reminds them of being childhood/schoolyard losers—especially those people who inadvertently remind them of the people who were “better” than them during school days, whether it be “rich white jocks” or “mean blond girls” or the like,

    Of course, there are exceptions: those black kids who called them “little-dicked cracker” and punched them a lot and disrupted class and called them names? Yeah, they purposely block themselves from having retributive PTSD about them. CrimeThink must be avoided, comrades.

  178. Contributor Smalls is right, but he doesn’t take it far enough. Remember that the current generation is directly descended from the Sixties generation (of which I am one)–which was aptly described in Mencken-like fashion by the late Dick Young, the irascible sportswriter of the NY Daily News, as “The Spoiled Rotten Generation”. And who spoiled us? Why, the “Greatest Generation”, that’s who! After all, they didn’t want us to experience what they went through during the period 1918-1945. Their intentions were noble but–what’s that line about the road to Hell and good intentions?

    History is seamless, one era bleeds into another sometimes without our even knowing it, so in the end it’s all part of one piece and should serve as a reminder that extended adolescence, which is front and center these days, is not restricted to one generation only.

  179. @Tiny Duck

    “unfortunate looking clumsy dull small genitals weak lazy”

    You’re channeling Weihan Zhang! I am NOT allow!

  180. @Jack D

    Johansson has always had a cow face. And not in the ancient Greek complimentary way; instead, I think she looks like a literal bovine heifer in her countenance.

    She, to me, is a classic butter face, but only if she’s got her body in shape; she’s a bit too curvy to allow herself to eat too much, otherwise she becomes the fat chick. Her body, however, is hour-glass hot when she’s not looking plump. But her face brings her down.

    And that’s aside from her bad acting, which is dismal.

    Johansson seems great case of a bad-acting, semi-unattractive women who has very good career control: a very good agent, picks roles well, controls her image to always cast her in a sexual-attractive light, and does a lot of strong “networking” (hehe) at Hollywood parties. She nabbed the annoying, brings-down-every-scene-she’s-in role of the Black Widow in the Marvel movies, and manages to get character pushed into all of them. As SNL pointed out (of all SJW places), she’s only slightly preferable to why-are-you-here Hawkeye in the series because of her rack.

  181. @Barnard

    Of course Catholic schools are desperately trying to increase the percentage of the student body that is “diverse.”

    I suppose every school has its own demographics. But in the U.S., Catholic schools typically function as the “poor man’s private school” for middle class parents who want to avoid the chaos of public urban schools but also can’t afford tony, private prep school.

    So it’s a bit ironic and bizarre that they are now being villified as centers of toxic “privilege.”

    Meanwhile, the true elite send their kids to $30,000+ per year prep schools that inculcate multiculturalism. And of course, going by household income and networking value, the religiously segregated Hebrew schools would be off the charts. But don’t hold your breath waiting for anyone to call out that “privilege.”

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Art Deco
    , @ATBOTL
  182. @South Texas Guy

    Two things always strike me when watching an old news clip/reel. The first is the lack of tattoos, and the second is how thin everyone was until relatively recently.

    And in the really old films everyone walked really fast and jerky. Maybe that’s why they were thin?

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
  183. Pat Boyle says:
    @clyde

    No one ever picked on me in high school. But in Junior High I was the class punching bag. I remember leaving the school at day’s end to meet a semi-circle of people who had been waiting for me. “What are you doing here? I asked.”

    “We’re here to beat the crap out of you”. They answered.

    Actually they had planned for each of the three to fight me in turn. But the first guy did such a good job the others were satisfied.

    This I think was a fairly typical sequence. The faster developing, bigger and more mature guys pick on the little pudgy guy who hasn’t yet had his growth spurt. But I put an end to that sort of thing, by simply out growing them. I grew five inches that year and I kept growing. I was so clumsy I could hardly stay upright but as I got bigger I fought back. I got in a lots of fights – some of which I started. I didn’t take crap from the bullies anymore.

    But by the time I was 6’2″ no one gave me much trouble. I was 6’4″ and pretty husky by the end of high school. I wan’t really tough but people just don’t bother you if you are big enough. They pick on the little guys.

    What should you do if they pick on you at school? I’d recommend Growth Hormone.

    • LOL: Simply Simon
  184. Jack D says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    And of course, going by household income and networking value, the religiously segregated Hebrew schools would be off the charts.

    Hebrew day schools are mostly Orthodox and many of the Orthodox are quite poor because they spend all their time studying the Torah and don’t work. Nor is there any (economic) networking value in hanging out with other poor ultra-Orthodox kids. The last place you would want to network is a Jewish religious school unless you were interested in a future rabbinical career. The really rich Jews send their kids to WASP private schools the same as all the other rich people. So you have no idea what you are talking about other than some kind of primitive identity that Jew = rich.

  185. Art Deco says:
    @JimB

    Ivy League colleges are the gatekeepers of the most elite impactful professions.

    The Ivy League enrolls (IIRC) about 140,000 students. In order to supply the high professions in this country (i.e. post-secondary teaching, medicine, peri-medical professions like dentistry, the bar, veterinary services, architecture and engineering, and corporate and governmental STEM research) at current levels of employment, higher education enrollments of around 1.5 million might be about right. In order to supply managers, an additional higher ed enrollment north of 1.5 million might do. Even if every person currently enrolled in the Ivy League landed in a professional managerial job, they couldn’t staff more than a slim fraction of the professional-managerial stratum.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @J.Ross
  186. @Jack D

    I can only imagine what blacks say among themselves.

    I am sure in private they talk massive sh*t about Whitey. But I think it’s a strange misconception that “racist” people can’t get alone with individual members of other groups. It’s simply not true.

    Race relations in the segregated South were pretty darn civilized even in the olden days on an individual level. In the supposedly woke Northern states, white liberals had all sorts of psychological complexes about feeling solicitous toward Blacks, but in reality they feared them and wanted nothing to do with them.

    As the saying went, “In the South, Blacks can get as close as they want, as long as they don’t get too big. In the North, they can get as big as they want, as long as they don’t get too close.”

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  187. Anon[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    I suspect that the skinniness, not tallness, makes the clothes look small. Guys didn’t work out. Muscles were not sexy. From a shirt or jacket how the heck can you estimate height?

    A couple of other things: trousers went up to your waist then, not your hips, so upper clothing was shorter. And armscyes, the armholes, were smaller, to allow more mobility (this is coming back to a certain extent in clothing for slim, young guys).

  188. @Hypnotoad666

    Maybe that’s why the two chicks from the Gilmore Girls are still lookers, all that fast talking and walking from the show had side benefits.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  189. Jack D says:
    @Spud Boy

    Thanks for sharing. I think your trajectory is pretty typical – high IQ nerds are slow starters in the dating market but things even out when you get to college where all the nerds/nerdettes have sorted themselves so being a nerd doesn’t make you some sort of freak. And in the long run, nerds tend to have the last laugh. I remember running into the guy who was the popular sort of Robert Redford looking quarterback of my high school football team years later where he was working some sort of dead end job at the local mall. Being the QB puts you high on the popularity scale in HS but unless you have the talent to go on to the NFL (and very few do) that and $1 gets you a Coke in later life. Conversely, the ability to solve differential equations or write in complete sentences does not get you much tail at 16 but pays off later on.

  190. Anon7 says:
    @Jkl

    I agree. I turned 18 in 1972, and I spent my entire childhood seeing the weekly casualty figures, along with increasingly detailed photojournalism of life in Vietnam for the average soldier, on the Today show (which had WWII-era journalists, not infobabes). Also, I grew up in a university town, and by the late Sixties there were huge demonstrations.

    The radical Left took full advantage of the fact that few young men wanted to fight in a distant war for unclear reasons. I can also tell you that there were plenty of men who fought in WWII who did not want their boys to die in a Vietnamese jungle.

    I’m not knocking anyone’s service, and Vietnam vets were treated badly, mostly as a result of radical Leftist politics.

    The real complaints of young men in the Sixties are what lead to the “volunteer” army and the lack of a draft. Politicians took a beating, and the warmongers don’t want to go through that era again.

  191. Art Deco says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    But in the U.S., Catholic schools typically function as the “poor man’s private school” for middle class parents who want to avoid the chaos of public urban schools but also can’t afford tony, private prep school.

    You’re describing a situation that began to evaporate 50-odd years ago. Catholic schools were once reasonably priced because for their faculty they had ample populations of teaching sisters, teaching brothers, and regular clergy from which to draw (along with some diocesan priests as well). These faculty were paid small stipends rather than salaries and lived communally. The demographic collapse of the religious orders over the next several decades was pretty thorough, so now they have to hire lay teachers at competitive salaries, as lay teachers have families to support and don’t take vows of poverty. As for their lay employees, they do not have 20 million committed and passably orthodox Catholics on which to draw. They have perhaps 4 million communicants who fit that description, only a modest fraction of whom have a genuine vocation to teach. The school’s likely to be ‘Catholic’ in the sense that their might be a crucifix here or there, there might be a chaplain assigned to the campus, and there might be religion classes offered.

    Keep in mind the fiasco at Charlotte Catholic High School a few years back was instigated by the school’s quondam religion teacher, who’d remained in contact via e-mail with a student agitator on campus. You realized from reading about it that the controversy was a function of the rage of professional-managerial types that a mere chaplain should presume to give moral instruction to their children contra what the prevailing prejudices of their various social circles are.

    We have friends who have a committed Catholic among their sons-in-law. He put in two years as a religion teacher at a Catholic high school in Wisconsin. Most demoralizing experience for him, because he just could not induce his charges to take an interest in the material or respect it. He quit teaching, loaded his wife and child in the car, headed South and landed a job in sales.

    Sad to say, you should assume your local Catholic high school is an expensive fraud until and unless they prove otherwise. That goes double for Catholic colleges, of which there are fewer than 20 decent ones. (And stakeholders at least two of the better ones have had to fight efforts by their administration to ruin them).

    • Agree: JMcG
  192. Jack D says:
    @Art Deco

    He said elite impactful professions. With all due respect to dentists, veterinary service providers, etc. I wouldn’t call these elite impactful professions.

    If you look at the very highest circles of American life, e.g. the Supreme Court, in recent years it’s not even the whole Ivy League, it’s now down to Harvard and Yale.

    And not to put words in JimB’s mouth, but “Ivy League” could be substituted with “Top 50 universities”, such as Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Duke, Berkeley, Hopkins, etc. which though not Ivy League have similar admissions criteria – a good “overcoming adversity” story sells well in the admissions office of any of these places. I’m sure with a little fudging of the criteria for “impactful profession” vs. the total enrollment of the Top 50 schools (I’m too lazy to look this stuff up) you could get the #s to match up in order to satisfy your autistic need for statistical precision.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Art Deco
  193. @IHTG

    Pedophilia, fundamentally, is about lust – a perverse lust, but lust. The SJW agenda isn’t about that.

    True, but the SJW desire to rub everyone’s face in the dirt could combine with the lust of other members of their lgbtq….. “coalition ” with unpleasant consequences.

  194. Jimi says:
    @Interested Bystander

    Are you really successful in you are single, live in a small NYC/DC walkup apartment, and spend your evenings eating takeout and watching Netflix?

    I suspect social media is a reason a lot of these journalists are in so munch angst over the childhoods. They’re probably still friends with the classmates on Facebook and Instagram. As they get older they watch the cool kids in their high school get married, have kids, buy house and have fun (at least that’s the impression they on social media).

  195. @Hypnotoad666

    Bullying certainly is not what it used to be — haven’t most schools even outlawed dodgeball?

  196. @South Texas Guy

    It seems to me that both South Texas Guy and Arclight are hitting on the same truths.

  197. peterike says:
    @Jack D

    many of the Orthodox are quite poor because they spend all their time studying the Torah and don’t work.

    And there’s all those other Orthodox who own fifteen badly managed New York rental apartment buildings, and are completely loaded. Yet on welfare at the same time. Hating your Orthodox landlord is the one kind of “racism” that’s 100% permitted on comment sections of otherwise hyper-censored New York City web sites, like Gothamist or NY Magazine.

  198. @anon

    …high school is exactly the wrong thing at exactly the wrong time: teenagers are relatively fragile, and the worst thing you could do is warehouse them with other teenagers.

    Lord of the Flies.

  199. stevecel says:
    @Spud Boy

    Have your children paternity tested to make sure you are not a beta bucks in this ugly duckling scenario.

  200. @snorlax

    snorlax, hands down the most beautiful woman in the world is Bezos’ ex, followed by that lady that won the big Power-Ball jackpot.

  201. Barnard says:
    @Art Deco

    Right, tuition for the Catholic high school where I live is over $6,000 a year for non-Catholics, local Catholics get about $1,000 taken off the price. Fees for every activity your child participates in are not included. That is hardly a poor man’s private school.

  202. peterike says:
    @Art Deco

    Catholic schools were once reasonably priced

    They often still are, relatively. But like everything else in education, the costs have skyrocketed.

    The school’s likely to be ‘Catholic’ in the sense that their might be a crucifix here or there, there might be a chaplain assigned to the campus, and there might be religion classes offered.

    And the kids are all herded into Mass a few times a year. To the extent that there’s “Catholicism” offered, it tends to be squishy “we are the world” style Catholicism.

    you should assume your local Catholic high school is an expensive fraud until and unless they prove otherwise.

    That’s overstated quite a bit. For one thing. Hypnotoad is exactly right that they are a poor man’s private school. See, the local public school is a den of iniquity, and your white or nerdy child is likely to be assaulted, harassed, pestered, bullied, etc. They still do manage to control that better at Catholic schools. The more sensible ones enforce uniforms or dress codes, which in itself has an impressive ability to assert order in the classroom (been there, done that, so don’t try to tell me otherwise). Catholic schools also are far more diligent about monitoring attendance, class cutting, etc.

    The other key is that parents are paying to send their kids (on top of whatever insane taxes they pay for the local public school), so they tend to be more involved with both the school and their kids, which is a positive effect overall.

    Sadly, there is no longer the Karl Malden style hard-knuckled Priest putting a beat-down on the misbehaving boys, and Catholic schools are not what they were (nothing escapes the Poz), but they still offer a solid alternative to public school depravity.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  203. Forbes says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I’ve long said we had the “Me Generation” followed by the “Look-at-Me Generation”–spoiled followed by the outcome of their coup d’etat, as you say.

  204. @Jack D

    I remember running into the guy who was the popular sort of Robert Redford looking quarterback of my high school football team years later where he was working some sort of dead end job at the local mall. Being the QB puts you high on the popularity scale in HS but unless you have the talent to go on to the NFL (and very few do) that and $1 gets you a Coke in later life.

    Showbiz and sports are dead ends for most except the minuscule number who hit the lotto by making it to the big time. That’s why parents who push their kids into these tiny niches at the expense of academics are taking a huge risk with their children’s futures.

  205. J.Ross says: • Website

    It’s not like there’s bitter, jealous people out there who just hate you, is it?

  206. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Jack D

    Yeah, they’re so poor in Lakewood, New Jersey, that they have to collect welfare from multiple identities.

  207. Forbes says:
    @Lady

    Men don’t agree on who is hot and who is not. Men’s preferences in women are as variable as men’s own attractiveness. But unlike women, what men don’t do, is spend a ginormous amount of time discussing their preferences with one another.

    To wit, most men just agree and move on when one guy says so-and-so is hot. Oh, there will be the typical rebuttal that someone else is even hotter. Then everyone agrees, or the second guy will be told to go F himself. And the conversation over.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  208. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Art Deco

    Here is Art Deco using estimates derived from statistics to argue against the both mythic and functional role of the Ivy League.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  209. @Jack D

    The really rich Jews send their kids to WASP private schools the same as all the other rich people. So you have no idea what you are talking about other than some kind of primitive identity that Jew = rich.

    Too true. The typical Hebrew school grad might end up running a small business to do with retail or the skilled trades, but nothing like Google, Intel or Facebook.

  210. Mr. Blank says:

    I’ve wondered about this myself — I mean, how much of it is some sort of act, and how much of it is real?

    I have more reason than most to be resentful of my middle school/high school/college years, but I have trouble calling up any of those old feelings of spite and resentment. Maybe I could summon up the rage if I really, really tried, but that seems like an incredibly dumb, pointless waste of time when I am surrounded by more pressing issues. It takes real energy to care about that stuff, and that seems like energy I could better use elsewhere.

    On the other hand, if constantly wallowing in my past miseries was something that brought positive rewards — Money and Prizes, as Steve might put it — I could probably find a way to at least fake it.

  211. Forbes says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Women love power, and they discern power by who is at the top of the heap, who is in the spotlight, who is the talk of the town. Women want to share that power and spotlight, the frisson, if only by intimate proximity. And those at the top of the heap, in the spotlight, the talk of the town usually have plenty of dough to satisfy her material needs. Musicians, actors, sports stars, all fulfill that power-frisson requirement. At last resort, a financially successful businessman will do. Even one a bit nerdy.

    Attractive, handsome, simple good looks just don’t spend very well.

  212. Brutusale says:
    @Jack D

    Iron Maiden singer Bruce Dickinson is 5’4″. The late metal wailer Ronnie James Dio was 5’3″. The late Prince Rogers Nelson was 5’2″.

    All were larger than life onstage, though.

  213. Corvinus says:

    “A huge difference between The Sixties and The Current Year is that The Sixties were the Revolt of the Good Looking (e.g., Beatles) and/or the Cocky (e.g., Rolling Stones), while The Current Year is the Revolt of the Unattractive and Uncool.”

    LOL, oh, Mr. Sailer, you slay me. There was a reason why the Boomers were labeled “Dirty Hippies” during the 1960’s.

    To Spaulding Smalls…

    “Unsurprisingly, most of the journos and other commentariats writing these lame pieces or melting down on Twitter aren’t the most visually arresting people, to say the least.”

    Sounds like projection. Anyhoo, what is the likelihood that normies are even familiar with some of these “journalists and commentariats”, especially if these writers are young, are generally women or of color, and are in their 20’s? Do their views truly represent how normies act and feel?

    Asking for a friend…

  214. Forbes says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    Bezos is giving up 70 billion dollars for a dark-haired Charo knockoff?

    Well, it depends if Bezos thinks he earned that money–or in reality, he actually won the lottery. As it is, Bezos–who likely has an estate plan, in the form of a will–was probably leaving something close to that amount to his wife, anyways.

    He’s giving up $70 B for playing away from home. Serves him right. Actions have consequences. Something this culture has forgotten in ways large and small.

    And really, who cares Bezos was bonking some married, middle-age harpy with two baby daddies…

  215. @Art Deco

    Religiously they are indeed frauds, but then so is the entirety of the Catholic Church these days, which is only structurally similar to what it was before Vatican II, and won’t be even that for much longer (the papacy is already transformed by the presence of a second “man in white’ in the Vatican, a perceived difference which will become structural within the next decade or two with the creation of a “Petrine office” exercised by a committee). And there will be women priests, an ecumenical Mass (which will be invalid, something even the otherwise execrable Novus Ordo Missae is not), and a total reversal of the Church’s teachings on sexual morality.

    As purely educational institutions though, the Catholic high schools tend to still stand above the public schools, particularly if they are not co-ed. Few are as expensive as the WASP private schools (Georgetown Prep might well be the only one which rivals them in both expense and influence); the Jesuit schools tend to be around $20,000 a year, just low enough to keep on attracting the intelligent sons of the newly (and therefore precariously) well-off, who, experience has proven, reward the educational source of their success in later life with generous and continuing donations. This leads to large endowments: Bellarmine in San Jose has $57 million, which, interestingly, is almost three times Georgetown’s twenty. But Georgetown charges three ties as much, partly, of course, because it is still a boarding school.

    Frauds? As Catholic schools, mostly; as academically worth while ones, not at all.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Art Deco
  216. ATBOTL says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Many of those kinds of extremely expensive, non-religious private schools now have many NAMs getting free rides and a huge number of Chinese. Some of these famous old boarding schools appear to be majority Asian now.

  217. Brutusale says:
    @Svigor

    Yeah, but all the photos from his early days had him standing next to the 5’5″ (chortle) Franco Columbu.

    https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ebayimg.com%2Fimages%2Fg%2F2GQAAOxyRhBS4KZI%2Fs-l300.jpg&f=1

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  218. @Intelligent Dasein

    One celebrity of very imposing stature is Don King. Like 6’3” and 300 lbs or so. Haven’t met him personally but encountered his likeness ar the NYC wax museum.

    And yes many other celebrities/ entertainers are small people.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  219. Forbes says:
    @snorlax

    Basketball is close to the worst for exaggerating height.

    My older brother played D-3 basketball at 6’6″ and he always goes down court side during warm-ups to get a true measure of (college) players. He regularly regales me of stories of 6’2″ guards who are 5’10” and 6’8″ forwards shorter than himself. This has been going on for decades.

  220. AndrewR says:
    @WorkingClass

    That may have been true then, and maybe those same no-longer-quite-so-young people (I’m assuming you were mainly referring to Generation X) still may not want to hear about the 1960s, but their kids might. Now, do they? I don’t know. I was born in 1984 and I can’t say there was ever a time that I did not want to hear about the 1960s. My parents, who are a few years older than you, didn’t talk about them much. Especially now that I’m older, I find the 1960s to be fascinating, because no decade besides the 1940s has had as much influence on our current civilization. Many of our cultural pathologies (and good things too…) have primary roots in the 1960s. Obviously if one really wants to understand our present world, one should read all the history one can, going back to ancient times, but certainly the last 80 years have been especially relevant, and the last 50-55 years have arguably been more relevant yet.

    So please: share as many of your memories and opinions about that decade as you can. Many of us younger people do want to hear them.

  221. anon[276] • Disclaimer says:

    OT:

    Re: Gillette….

    The online ad only primed the pump. DDay is Super Bowl Sunday. Does Gillette double down in realtime on linear TV?

    Latest from Davos…CEO talking double down.

    1. Admitted P&G Grooming problem area.

    2. Used ‘Conversation’ rhetoric. Claimed that men want to ‘be better’. Claimed that every day, PR getting better. Claimed that opposition ‘well organized’???

    3. Claimed that it is too early to tell effect on sales?

    4. Claimed that advertisement showed men stepping up. Not anti male.
    ____________________

    Observation: Everyone from Gillette clueless about anti-white narrative.

    Observation: Visceral negative reactions from older White males.

    Observation: Overall mildly favorable reaction from MSM. After all, just amped up consensus narrative.
    ______________________

    Nike fake conversation was both more subtle … sacrifice for beliefs … And,most importantly, it offended a demographic that doesn’t buy their products for premium prices.

    ______________________

    Chrysler screwed the pooch by tossing in MLK quote in truck ad, but they were Ram Trucks. Dodge is one of the least valuable brands around. Ford F-150 and Chevy are nearly Harley level iconic. FWIW, there is a Chevy C10 lifestyle thing that has cropped up.

    C-10 is the poorman’s Augusta.

    Chrysler is the anti/darkside brand if it is anything. I will admit to at least looking at ads for their Challenger retro muscle vehicles. Featured brand in last season of Breaking Bad.

    ______________________

    P&G does know something about marketing. Of course, so did the guys that introduced New Coke. Phillip Morris/Altrea would never do it. They were pure subtext… ‘adult pleasure’ vs. death.

    P&G is like most large businesses, executives are never rewarded for maximizing declining cash flows. So they just see the reflection of the multi billion bone in their mouth in the elusive Millennials. Shave Club is as close to Fight Club as they are ever going to get.

    70% odds they will run with it. 50/50 it gets gets serious negative traction. The anti white subtext is a true dog whistle. Gillette can’t even hear it.

    They are counting on the reflexive appeal of being anti bad vs the clumsy lecture cum conversation.

  222. BenKenobi says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “Well, was getting caught part of your plan?”

    Bezos:

    OF COURSE!

  223. AndrewR says:
    @Interested Bystander

    Our culture has changed, and people of all ages have been affected and infected. Young adults might be the vanguard of much of this change, but it certainly didn’t appear out of a vacuum, nor are older generations immune to it. There are plenty of 60 year olds who want to “take your job, impoverish you, ruin your kids’ lives, and then mock you and laugh at you.”

  224. Cortes says:

    The Rolling Stones were “rebels” against their impeccably middle class backgrounds, doing bad versions of black music. And generally ugly.

    The Beatles? Not so much. Not so ugly. Not so Metropolitan. Not so derivative. More sort of (wait for it, troops! Wait for it!) Northern English Irish Catholic… originals?

    (My dad told us that you could always tell who among the departing shipyard workers were Irish Catholics: those were the guys with smiles on their faces as the shift ended. The Calvinists were unsmiling.)

  225. Michelle Grissom, a teacher in Douglas County, Colorado, has resigned from her role on the teachers union’s board after being placed on paid leave following online comments calling a Covington Catholic school student “Hitler Youth.”

    Note: Douglas County is one of the most Republican counties in the state. Thinking she should have known her audience a little better.

    Additionally the theory holds, as nobody would mistake her for good looking. https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/next/teachers-union-leader-resigns-after-hitler-youth-comments/73-36dc9499-030a-48ac-9487-415a7b3d28e1

  226. c matt says:
    @Dr DoomnGloom

    If that is in reference to the Covington fiasco, I think it had more to do with their being white than Catholic. I don’t see a group of Latino Catholics getting the same treatment had it been them (heck, they would not look that different from Ol’ Fauxronimo himself).

  227. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    When I lived in Manhattan during the ’70’s there was always a group of them hanging out on the street in the Times Square area, spewing their vile nonsense. I assume that at least one of them had to be armed, to get away with shouting insults at random Honkies all day.
    They acted like they were in the middle of Harlem and could say anything…very similar to Westboro Baptist chuch.

  228. Anonymous[396] • Disclaimer says:
    @clyde

    Based on the way most of these self-described victims are acting, I’d imagine they were more likely to be bullies than bullied in high school. There’s also the strange elongation of the teenage years in today’s society, in terms of mindset, if not actual chronological age. A traditional part of becoming an adult was getting over the awkwardness, humiliation, naiveté, and callowness that characterize youth and learning to laugh at your younger self. For most of human history, people who failed to do so would be told to grow up. Why aren’t they in 2019?

  229. captflee says:
    @Jack D

    Indeed. Were I able to hurl myself back decades across the gulfs of time to commune with my boon companions of 1972, the proposition that in 2019 the average 19 year old coed would be sporting more, and often even less attractive ink than the average 60 year old able seaman might be a hard sell. And the rot was already well advanced by then…

  230. istevefan says:

    OT – Here is a tweet from CNBC promoting one of their stories. Why are the photos to all stories of this nature so similar? Do they have a target audience in mind?

  231. I think this is a great question. Were they really bullied in high school, or is it stolen valor?

    • Replies: @Prodigal son
  232. Art Deco says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    Religiously they are indeed frauds, but then so is the entirety of the Catholic Church these days, which is only structurally similar to what it was before Vatican II, and won’t be even that for much longer (the papacy is already transformed by the presence of a second “man in white’ in the Vatican, a perceived difference which will become structural within the next decade or two with the creation of a “Petrine office” exercised by a committee). And there will be women priests, an ecumenical Mass (which will be invalid, something even the otherwise execrable Novus Ordo Missae is not), and a total reversal of the Church’s teachings on sexual morality.

    I wouldn’t doubt Francis wishes to do all that, with the exception of ordaining women. However, he hasn’t done all that at this time. Papal abdications are not without precedent. Francis hasn’t murdered his predecessor (which is what happened to the last Pope to abdicate).

  233. Eddie says:

    In my mind, the real distinction is that the rebels of the 60s it was a limit to how seriously you could take their bullshit without looking lame and unfuckable.

    “But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao / you ain’t gonna make it with anyone anyhow.”

  234. Art Deco says:
    @J.Ross

    Yes, I do, because it’s ‘functional role’ is indeed mythic. We’re the Air Force to turn Ivy League institutions into parking lots tomorrow, the people who would be injured would be the current stakeholders of those institutions, and that’s it.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  235. Art Deco says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    I doubt the value-added makes them worth that price. Enroll at a suburban school which is passably orderly and offers a mess of AP courses.

  236. As an old timer, 90, I could say that the difference between the 1960s and the current years much more closely resemble each other than the difference between the 1930s and 1960. But then most of you would not know whereof I speak unless you watch Turner Classic Movies.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  237. J.Ross says: • Website
    @istevefan

    It’s so awful, the non-stop barrage of articles targeting Jews, explaining that the world doesn’t need or want any more of you, you’d make an awful parent, you would save so much money if you just never had kids …

  238. @IHTG

    Relevant to this is why conservatives who say stuff like “after World War T, the left will move on to legalizing pedophilia!” are getting it wrong. Pedophilia, fundamentally, is about lust – a perverse lust, but lust. The SJW agenda isn’t about that.

    I feel like this is a very astute observation, but that they’re still gonna advocate for legalized pedophilia (Hell, they already are). That is because they are in favor of virtually any social change that helps to bring about the demise of the old order ie., the one which prevailed 30 years ago. They’re kinda like neo-Nazis who are enamored with Islam, because Hitler and Himmler once said some nice things about it. If your dad was against it, they’re for it.

  239. Lot says:
    @Art Deco

    In the Midwest Catholic schools are still cheaper, often only half the cost of secular private schools. The gap is getting smaller though.

    In the 90s my parents considered (but didn’t) enroll me in a private HS. It was 6k Catholic v 13k secular. The Catholic schools often have very large discounts for big families who are members of the Church.

  240. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Simply Simon

    Yes, there were enormous changes in the first half of the twentieth century. I’ve been living in “the seventies with better tech.” There was a pithy paragraph somewhere about the enormous changes the current and previous generation of Chinese have seen.

  241. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Art Deco

    Then it’s more credible when you say it.

  242. Hodag says:
    @Spaulding Smails

    I want a hamburger… no, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake…

    • Replies: @Spaulding Smails
  243. Dtbb says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Your comment made me wonder. Is it perfectly legal for people to film others with their cellphones and then use it without their permission? I always refuse to have my picture taken because I don’t want to end up on facebook. If someone uses a picture of me taken unknowingly, do they have the right to use it? Do I have any recourse?

  244. @Jack D

    Hebrew day schools are mostly Orthodox and many of the Orthodox are quite poor because they spend all their time studying the Torah and don’t work. Nor is there any (economic) networking value in hanging out with other poor ultra-Orthodox kids. The last place you would want to network is a Jewish religious school unless you were interested in a future rabbinical career.

    This not really true today. In any case , one must distinguish between Modern Orthodox day schools and Yeshivas. M.O. day schools are typically upper middle class and up in economic terms. Modern Orthodoxy is the wealthiest denomination on average among Jews per the Pew report. There are of course some scholarship students, but they comprise a small percentage of the student body. The Modern Orthodox life style is very expensive, with day school education, synagogue membership, kosher food, university tuition, Modern Orthodox guys gravitate to law , medicine or finance mostly . They need to ,pretty much, in order to afford to raise families. A lot of helpful connections are made in these fields in day school. Yeshiva ( by yeshiva I mean ultra orthodox or hareidi) , is , referencing your earlier comment re public school, much more egalitarian. In Yeshiva you will have children of the ultra wealthy going to class with the children of paupers. There is no such thing as a Yeshiva for wealthy people, ultra rich or otherwise. Everyone attends the same Yeshivas. I myself went to Yeshivas over the years with children of three different billionaires. Yeshiva, much more so than day schools, is conducive to building life long friendships. You spend sixteen hours a day together, go to all the same classes, study together etc.,etc. It is more like being together in the military that way. In a number of industries in NY metro area, like commercial & residential real estate, Yeshiva ties are invaluable. That is ,of course ,not to say that one can’t gain entry to NY real estate jobs absent Yeshiva ties, but many segments of the market are dominated by Orthodox owned firms. Yeshiva ties , bind a lot more tightly than Harvard ties , although they have a much smaller menu on offer , so to speak.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  245. prosa123 says:
    @Svigor

    I’m not buying Arnie as 6’2″, either. Someone find me a full-length photo of him standing next to someone of known height (good luck with that, btw).
    I think Arnie’s more like 5’10”, with a small head.

    Here is a photo of Arnold standing next to Breon Ansley, who won the Classic Physique competition at last year’s Arnold Classic bodybuilding show. Ansley is 5’7″, which is an established fact because Classic Physique bodybuilders are among the very few (maybe only) athletes who are subject to official height measurements, as they cannot exceed specified weight limits which depend on height.

    Arnold is obviously several inches taller than Ansley, if not quite the 6’2″ as sometimes claimed, then at least 6’0″. And keep in mind he’s probably lost height with age.

    https://goo.gl/images/NzHRvZ

  246. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    One wonders what would have happened if the Jazz Age had continued without the Great Depression and WWII.

    Maybe another Great Depression would have been good for the US around the 70s.

  247. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D

    He said elite impactful professions. With all due respect to dentists, veterinary service providers, etc. I wouldn’t call these elite impactful professions.

    “Impactful” is an atrocious word that sounds like it was coined by the author of The Chronicles of Doodah. You appear to be using it to refer to ‘offices salient in politics’. Well, let’s look at my home state. The members of the state Court of Appeals were educated at the following institutions:

    1. Janet diFiore, Chief Judge: Long Island University / St. John’s University
    2. J. Rivera: Princeton / NYU
    3. L. Stein: Macalaster / Albany Law School
    4. E. Fahey: SUNY Buffalo (3 degrees)
    5. M. Garcia: SUNY Binghamton / College of William and Mary / Albany Law School
    6. R. Wilson: Harvard / Harvard
    7. P. Feinman: Columbia / Univ. of Minnesota

    Disproportionate, but not dominant. The Governor is a graduate of Fordham and Albany Law School. Two of his three predecessors were Ivy all the way (one on scholarship). The two prior to that St. John’s University all the way. The one prior to that Fordham all the way. I’m in the northeast, btw, which has half the private research universities in the country and a similar share of the prestigious teaching institutions.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  248. gsjackson says:
    @Jack D

    Probably the most comprehensive of such sites is celebheights. It has Trump currently at six foot and a half inch, which is what he looks like standing next to people like 5-8 Macron or 5-9 Pence. Springsteen is listed as 5-9.

  249. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    They certainly are revolting. I think an analogy can be made between the delusions of the 60s and the hangover of the 70s – and now.

    In actuality, the 60s were just as ugly as now, but because the Image was controlled by few outlets and venues, they could put forth more of a packaged image.

    But the reality on the ground was different. George Harrison visited Haight-Asbury and was totally turned off.

    One feature of 60s cultural Zeitgeist had a de-mythologizing effect. The rise of cinema-verite filmmaking that exploded with light arriflex camera. It captured raw reality as it happened on the spot. Also, the grainy 16 mm footage added a harsh look to the image. The Stones could not control the Image Fiasco of Altmont concert, made all the worse by the film GIMMER SHELTER that made everyone look like a fool. It’s interesting that when violence broke out, Mick Jagger was pleading with the crowd, “brothers and sisters, why ah we fightin’?” But almost all the violence came from half-drunk Hells Angels. But, they were his security detail, and he was afraid of them, so he tried to blame the whole crowd. It’s sort of like how we blame all of America for the bad behavior of the Holy Negroes.
    I was so excited to see a double feature of DON’T LOOK BACK and MONTEREY POP in an art house theater in 1984 when I was a Dylan fan. But the cinema verite film of Dylan was so humdrum and mostly followed him around hotel rooms.

    By the 80s, the cinema verite style had gone out the window and was replaced by slick MTV style. Later, with the rise of high-quality digicams, everything could be made to look crisp and clean. Also, because digital filmmaking was so cheap without the hassle of celluloid, filmmakers could shoot a lot and choose from best footage. In contrast, cinema verite guys had to do with limited film stock and low quality. The makers of WOODSTOCK tried to make it look as cool as possible, but there are lots of ugly stuff, esp the interview with an unappealing guy and girl talking about how they are ‘balling’ each other.
    Even photos and footage shot with smartphones can be of outstanding quality today. But because EVERYONE wants attention, a lot of uglies and puglies mug for attention along with the pretties.

  250. L Woods says:
    @Jake

    You’re missing the point. The point is that they didn’t get laid on prom night and are therefore unworthy. Please try to keep up.

  251. @istevefan

    If you don’t have kids, you can just live in a van by the river.

  252. @Jack D

    In some ways, having a rough childhood/adolescence can be an invaluable asset. If that experience forms the baseline for your expectations, then things can only get better. When they do improve, you feel appreciative and thankful.

    People that peak too early can end up feeling disappointed and unhappy for the rest of their lives.

    • Replies: @L Woods
  253. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @Detective Club

    There really can be no comparison between 1969 and 2019, when the US was more than 85% European in 1969.

    But remember, the signature youth films of the 60s were THE GRADUATE and EASY RIDER.

    THE GRADUATE had Jewish Hoffman taking on a churchful of tall blonde Wasps and running off with the girl — granted, Hoffman was sort-of-attractive in the role — , and the only really cool thing in EASY RIDER was Peter Fonda, but even he got funny in the end. Everyone else, the hippies and rednecks, came across as either grubby or grotesque.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  254. Lurker says:
    @Anon

    Today, the internet and PC have universalized narcissism to the point where even someone like Lena Dunham thinks she should be a star. (At least Streisand in 60s had singing and comedic talent.)

    And she had a weird attractiveness too. Something Lena can never, never lay claim to.

    • Replies: @Anon
  255. @Spaulding Smails

    Hello, Do You Have Spa[u]lding In The Can*?

    First thought seeing “Spalding Smalls” – was “Oh, balls” – as in “Oh, crap.”
    Balls – not so small – white, hairy (especially after being played with for awhile) balls, later in the marketing game – yellow fuzzy**balls, still later – Donald Trumpish fluorescent orange tennis balls.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=spalding+tennis+balls+in+a+can&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=h53gzn_B30zG3M%253A%252C5wa1hZSeciu1NM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kQjn2tgJE4KR25Ur3U7t6HgahNk3Q&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjM57jl1YfgAhUXoYMKHYFdD8IQ9QEwAHoECAMQBA&biw=1130&bih=760#imgrc=h53gzn_B30zG3M:

    [Self-Serving Triviata To Follow]
    (googling the spelling above learned that as in “La Traviata” that would be to “stray” (as in prostitute as in “Pretty Woman” (movie) even further off-topic)

    * sigh – that is likely only slightly less opaque now to most folks than the classic crank call to a tobacco shop, “Hello, do you have Prince Albert in the can? – You do? – Better let him out!”
    Going back to a commenter’s assertion that Nathan Philips brave[ly] served his country as a refrigerator technician, one might recall another classic from someone claiming to represent a power company – “Hello, is your refrigerator running? – It is? – Better run and catch it!”
    Rambling on – thought it was at least as the Brits say, “clever-clever” to have written, “So, what’s his [Willie Brown] position on Kamasutra?” No response – too obvious, too obscure or too stoopid? Another commenter later noted that no one under the age of fifty would remember the Kama Sutra. I’m 67 and put an obstetrical episiotomy joke (“Karma Suture”) on a (physical) bulletin board about 45 years ago.
    Thoughts then turned to an old copy of an English translation of “The Perfumed Garden” -is anyone still reading this? Does anyone else spending *hours* trying to find an old book at home? I can “see” the book right *there* on a bookshelf – where it is not. -crack myself up; doing this is like crack for some – Will reply to myself unless SS asks me to put it elsewhere.

  256. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @Captain Tripps

    But there was this too.

  257. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lurker

    And she had a weird attractiveness too. Something Lena can never, never lay claim to.

    Personality and humor go a long way. Streisand was no looker(though she never triggered me like she did John Simon), but she could make you laugh, and laughter works like alcohol.

    http://www.movie-film-review.com/devharsh.asp?act=2&param=887

  258. @Brutusale

    For what’s it worth, here is a picture of Arnold next to Lou Ferrigno who, at 6’5 and 285 lbs., is one of the most massive bodybuilders ever (he later got up to about 315 lbs.)

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  259. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @Art Deco

    McCartney was handsome. Harrison had chiseled features though he looked a bit gaunt. Lennon looked special and smart, like Michael Caine. Ringo was cute and funny. Each on his own may not have amounted to much but there was real visual chemistry among them, as with the Beach Boys.

  260. I’m about 10-15 years younger than that crowd, having been born in 1958, but my impression of the Sixties counterculture types was that most of them were better read and wrote better, than today’s “progressive” SJW warriors. I’m pretty sure this was because their education and upbringing was not dissimilar to the generation before them— of a high standard and demanding.

  261. Travis says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    might not be enough young whites to flip it around

    in 1969 there were 85 million whites under the age of 25
    in 2019 there are 50 million whites under the age of 25

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  262. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lagertha

    If it is not obvious to you that Progressives/Democrats/Leftists are absolutely trying to blur the lines for the American people to accept pedophilia, or an eventual acceptance that it is ok for adults to have sexual relationships with teens and children, you are really quite stupid.

    We have to be careful here. I don’t think MOST progs and libs are for pedo-stuff. The real problem is that MOST members of any group or movement don’t get to decide. Only a tiny segement in the cortex area of the group or movement gets to decide. The problem is homos and trannies have immense influence at the upper echelons of progdom, and it is THEY who are into the pedo stuff. Not all homos or trannies of course. I’m sure plenty of homos and even trannies are appalled by pedo-stuff. However, there has been a long tradition of a rather porous area between homo culture and pedo culture.

    Most of any group or movement lacks directive agency. Most power is latent and asleep. It’s like most people cast votes but lack voice in what gets discussed and said. Only a tiny segment of the power is alert and active and makes the conscious decision to steer the movement into a certain direction.

    Society is like the body. Most people just work to keep the system running. They don’t get to decide or even know what the system is ultimately used for. Most people in the military train, maintain machinery, cook meals, and do daily stuff. That’s all part of power but regulatory or managerial power. It’s like a car is a powerful machine with engine, axle, and wheels, but it is only the driver on the wheel who gets to decide where it will go. The crew in the engine room in a submarine oversee a powerful machine, but it’s the captain who gets to decide what the sub will do.
    Through most of history, people understood this about power, but the rise of democracy gave us the false illusion that all of us control the destiny of the nation. In fact, we are only supposed to be maintain, regulate, and manage the system. We are supposed to be like the body. Even when a person is lazing about or asleep, the body maintains itself through working heart, lungs, liver, and etc. Like the various organs in the body, we too work to maintain the system without asking questions. In the body, it is only a small part of the frontal cortex that consciously and actively decides to do something. Thus, all the power of the body is really directed by that tiny piece of the brain. All the body gains or loses according to the active decision of the cortex. So, if that part of the brain actively decides to climb a mountain, the entire body is put to the effort. And if something bad happens, the entire pays the price for what only a small segment of the brain decided. It’s like all of Germany and Japan suffered terribly for what a tiny elite decided to do. All the body has to pay the price for what the frontal cortex decided. It’s like all of America has to suffer for the financial decisions of the elites in such stuff like dotcom bubble and housing bubble.

    Walk down any street, and you realize that most people are not Jews or homos. Also, even most Jews or homos you meet on the street are not part of the elite. And because most people we see and meet are like you and me who make up bulk of the nation, we may believe that WE are in control. But we merely exist to maintain the bodily functions of system. We we don’t decide what the body will be directed to do. Only a tiny segment of the elite get to decide.

    And that is why this pedo thing is dangerous. I don’t believe that most progs and libs, decadent and delusional as they are, want to go THERE with the pedo stuff. But they are not in control. They constitute the Body of the Movement, not its Cortex.

    Certain insane homos, allied with super-powerful Jews, have immense power in media, academia, entertainment and deep state. They are ensconced in the alert-and-active decision-making Room of the Movement. Many successful and powerful people have strong drives, and it could be that power-hungry homos and trannies are especially obsessive about sexual perversion. And because there is a porous flow between homo community and pedo community, this pedo-sickness can let in through the backdoor of the homo community(just like the homo agenda came in through a secret door of Jewish Power). Also, notice how homos and such freaks are sexualizing young children from a young age. If kids can be sexualized, it implies they can take part in sex. And if they can do that, it can be with adults.

    We need to act more like brain cells and not merely as bodily cells. Instead of just going along with the directives of the corrupt cortex, we need to send messages to the rest of the body to learn to thik and revolt.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Lagertha
    , @Lagertha
  263. @South Texas Guy

    Mrs. Santa’s Sister will be yummy AF for time immemorial:

  264. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @JimB

    Ivy League colleges are the gatekeepers of the most elite impactful professions. And for about the last quarter century their admissions committees have shown conspicuous preference for students who write maudlin essays about their victimhood, usually at the hands of whom Steve would classify as Core Americans.

    Ivy Leagues are caught up in a Catch 22 situation. On the one hand, they want edgy, eccentric, individualistic, and inspired personalities along with brains. They don’t want just human computers and grinds who study hard and do as told. This is why Harvard says Asians have poor personalities. They do their homework and study hard for tests BUT are too conformist and obedient. Mere intelligence and diligence are not what the elite schools are looking for. They are looking for spark, originality, the vision thing. BUT, there is the power of PC to insist that all students ‘think’ in a certain way, obey the current dogma, avoid heresy(lest they end up like James Watson), and be good little proggies. So, elite colleges both disparage and demand conformity.

  265. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @Neuday

    The Bolshevik revolution started as the coalition of the downtrodden, marginalized and uncool.

    If something like the Bolshevik Revolution bring down the CIA, Pentagon, FBI, NSA, Wall Street, Hollywood, Las Vegas, the Fed, Ivy League schools, and etc., I wouldn’t lift a finger to stop them.

  266. snorlax says:
    @Art Deco

    The members of the state Court of Appeals

    AKA machine political hacks, selected for their venality, not their intellectual heft. How about federal judges in New York?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    , @Art Deco
  267. @Rrrrrroger

    They were most likely bullies themselves in high school , and they continue to bully people today

    • Replies: @Rrrrrroger
  268. MEH 0910 says:

  269. @istevefan

    Even if we stipulate reproducing at $500,000.00, or an even higher price, not reproducing still has an immeasurably higher cost.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  270. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:

    How did Eastwood leave this out?

    https://theweek.com/articles/730219/sexual-predators-everyone-still-worships

    Miles Davis in his memoir tells us that Charlie Parker once forced a woman to perform oral sex on him in the back seat of a taxi while “Bird” ate fried chicken;

  271. @snorlax

    Federal judges (in New York as elsewhere) are machine political hacks, selected for their venality, not their intellectual heft, so I’m not sure I take your point….

    • Replies: @snorlax
  272. @Svigor

    Going OT: I, too, have benefited from both White and Height Privilege. But why can’t my half-arsed tailor(s) get my cuffs to break like Arnold’s?

    And Terminator’s shoes are better. My Brooklyn-born grandfather called those long-nosed style shoes that Brady’s wearing “cockroach killers.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  273. snorlax says:
    @Autochthon

    One’s a woman who has non-procreative(!) sex with her husband, the other is the female star of Interracial Anal Creampie Orgy 7: Spitroasted Sluts.

    (To the point about colleges, Federal judges are nearly all Ivy League or one notch down).

    • Disagree: Autochthon
  274. @anon

    It’s an age where the separation function works at high RPM, in all societies, with or without high school. Romance and tragedy. In our culture, some reparation is made later. In comparison, on the sage grouse lek, or in the wapiti harem, one or two dominant males inseminate all of the females. Good for Susie, not good for the males who coulda been contenders (acknowledging difference in gestation period, nurturing period, and lifespan). Short window, winner take all. In our society we value challenge, reprieve, comeback, and triumph in duress.

  275. @Hypnotoad666

    Pictures taken from a low perspective diminish differences height. It’s a standard trick in cinematography, one that actors such as Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman benefit from.

  276. @Anon

    Everyone else, the hippies and rednecks, came across as either grubby or grotesque.

    That was deliberate.

    • Replies: @Anon
  277. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan

    That was deliberate.

    Rednecks, yes. But the hippies were supposed to come off as good but they just seemed grubby.

    The ONLY people who come across positively are the rancher, his Mexican wife, and nice kids.

  278. Corvinus says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    “I am sure in private they talk massive sh*t about Whitey.”

    Not as much as you believe.

    “But I think it’s a strange misconception that “racist” people can’t get alone with individual members of other groups. It’s simply not true.”

    Alone or along?

    “Race relations in the segregated South were pretty darn civilized even in the olden days on an individual level.”

    Patently false. There was observably nothing “civilized” by signs such as “No Dogs, No Mexicans, No Negroes Allowed” or by laws that barred whites and blacks from marrying or by social customs that prevented blacks from sitting in the front of the lunch counter.

    “In the supposedly woke Northern states, white liberals had all sorts of psychological complexes about feeling solicitous toward Blacks, but in reality they feared them and wanted nothing to do with them.”

    The reality is that while there was segregation by custom, blacks had more liberties and opportunities in the North.

    “As the saying went, “In the South, Blacks can get as close as they want, as long as they don’t get too big. In the North, they can get as big as they want, as long as they don’t get too close.”

    Finally, some truth here. Regardless, the more important question is how would Jesus view this segregation?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  279. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Depends on the man, but country musicians of the 1960s were universally well-groomed.

    The Folk Movement people not so much.

    And comedy has Lenny Bruce.

  280. @Jack D

    Lennon is OK looking but had a charismatic personality…

    John Lennon strongly resembled his contemporary, the British actor Tom Courtenay.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Jack D
    , @Kibernetika
  281. Anon[218] • Disclaimer says:
    @snorlax

    In ONE TRICK PONY, he looks like a windup toy.

  282. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:
    @PiltdownMan

    In conventional terms, McCartney and Harrison were prettier than Lennon. But Lennon was more uniquely appealing. And his face always wore an expression, a commentary, an awareness. It was never at rest.

    There must have been something about him that turned Brian Epstein so powerfully. Epstein was a classical music guy and had no interest in rock music. He checked out the Beatles out of curiosity because someone entered his record shop and asked about them. He found the music loud and unappealing but when his eyes fell on Lennon, he had to be part of the Beatles. One wonders what would have been IF Epstein hadn’t visited the Cavern and became totally besotted with Lennon. He spent the next few yrs doing everything to make the Beatles a thing. (I wonder if LOVE AND DEATH IN LONG ISLAND was inspired by the Epstein-Lennon story.)

  283. @Anon

    Yah, she was very funny and attractive. I loved her in What’s Up Doc. I was 11, so a bit young to make a move on her. Is she still everything I imagined her to be? Is she a Trump supporter?

  284. Art Deco says:
    @snorlax

    You think the selection process is substantially different in re federal judges?

    (While we’re at it, you’d be hard put to locate any functioning ward clubs in New York, so no clue in what ‘machine’ you fancy these judges have been paying their dues pounding the pavement).

    • Replies: @snorlax
  285. EH says:
    @dearieme

    I’ve heard of tiny pianists, but never actually seen one.

  286. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D

    your autistic need for statistical precision.

    It’s considered ‘autistic’ on these boards to point out the bull. That’s your problem, not mine.

  287. Jack D says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Other than the wire rim granny glasses, I don’t think so.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  288. snorlax says:
    @Art Deco

    You think the selection process is substantially different in re federal judges?

    The primary consideration in the appointment of NYS judges is personal loyalty to Andrew Cuomo, particularly respecting any future prosecution of him or his associates.

    While we’re at it, you’d be hard put to locate any functioning ward clubs in New York

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  289. @Jack D

    Other than the wire rim granny glasses, I don’t think so.

    Indeed. I should have explicated.

    I meant, Tom Courtenay in this particular role. There’s a certain underlying seriousness or grimness of aspect both had, though, admittedly, John Lennon’s public persona was, simultaneously, more irreverent and more cynical than the Strelnikov/Pasha Antipov character Courtenay plays. The granny glasses emphasise the similarity, but is perhaps incidental to the point I’m trying to make.

    A somewhat serious/nasty edge to one’s character can be very attractive to many women, if that personality trait is embodied in an obviously intelligent man. Courtenay talks about that in some video clip, but I can’t seem to find it.

    Other than that, yeah, I don’t think Tom Courtenay’s face strongly resembled John Lennon’s, and, especially in the present day, doesn’t resemble what we imagine John Lennon might have looked like today, at age 78, had he lived.

  290. @Jack D

    Traditional American public schools were also very democratic – the doctor’s kid attended right alongside the garbageman’s kid.

    Agree that this is indeed good for a nation. But it’s one of the many “nice things” that die as nation becomes multi-ethnic.

    The US was–when we were kids–managing to sort of have this at least for whites, because immigration restriction, the shared experience of adults of the depression and military service, radio and the new TV medium had created a more homogenized culture “American” culture atop the Anglo-Protestant core. (I went to Catholic schools, but despite the Catholic religious stuff we weren’t outliers to this common culture.)

    But it is *really* something you can’t have if you don’t have a common culture. And as your fellow Jews took power and began pushing minoritarianism–explicitly rejecting and pissing on Anglo-Protestant norms–and then reopening to immigration for more diversity!, common culture was destroyed.

    When you don’t have a common culture you can’t even agree on what is worthy of being taught, who the heroes are, what books to read, what constitutes proper discipline, what holidays to celebrate or even what language to teach in!

    The whole “public school” thing becomes a joke. Basically intact out of historical inertia–path dependence–and the special interest of the unioned public sector workers, teachers and bureaucrats. Parents jockey to find a house in neighborhood that will is ethnically comfortable and hope the school doesn’t piss on their values too much. Or they bail to private, parochial or home school.

    Now we’d be better off just going full Ottoman Empire, where each group–Muslims, Greeks, Armenians, Jews–had their own silo and was left alone to look after their own business as long as they didn’t rock the boat. But we’ll be lucky to get that. What it looks like instead is we won’t be left alone, but are in for endless Maoist style struggle sessions where whitey must confess their sins.

    • Agree: GermanReader2
  291. @PiltdownMan

    BTW, imagine the social media howling that would ensue these days re. cultural appropriation in this case. An Egyptian dude portraying a Russian. Certainly, Masha Gessen (a.k.a. Mashenka Gegessen) wouldn’t mind, but others might.

    All things considered, the film remains a work of art.

  292. Anonymous[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @Autochthon

    Even if we stipulate reproducing at $500,000.00, or an even higher price, not reproducing still has an immeasurably higher cost.

    What is that cost?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  293. Jack D says:
    @Kaganovitch

    In the OP’s fever dreams, Hebrew School is where the Rothschilds and the Elders of Zion send their kids to learn the secret gematria required for controlling the world economy. I’m sure a Yeshivish background comes in handy in certain circles in NY (in addition to real estate, there’s the diamond business, selling cameras and electronics, etc.) but I don’t think that’s what the OP had in mind.

    While there are certainly some very rich Orthodox Jews (Englander, Karfunkel), most of the very richest Jews (Blumberg, Ellison, Brin, Page, Soros, Dell, etc.) as well as most of the richest NY Jewish real estate magnates ( LeFrak, Solow, Goldman, etc.) are not Orthodox.

    • Replies: @Kaganovitch
  294. Anonymous[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kibernetika

    And Terminator’s shoes are better. My Brooklyn-born grandfather called those long-nosed style shoes that Brady’s wearing “cockroach killers.”

    What does your grandfather’s being born in Brooklyn have to do with anything?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  295. @Corvinus

    Jesus of Nazareth never spoke out against slavery; he exhorted servants and slaves to obey their masters.

    I’m not making a case for slavery; I’m just not sure it’s wise to rely on Jesus to make any case against segregation.

    In either event, the appeal fails entirely for those who attribute no particular moral authority to Jesus, which group includes the majority of people on the planet.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  296. @phil

    Shaming priests who indulge in pedophilia is also an important aspect of the war on white Catholics. It is taboo to attack priests for homosexuality because, as we all know, being gay is good.

    As i’ve noted before, this wasn’t much of a “pediophilia” scandal as a gay-grooming scandal. The median victim was roughly a 15 year old boy. There were only a small percentage of girls–and those often molested by nuns–and not that many true pre-puberty children.

    Basically this was homo priests, grooming adolescent boys. And then protected by homo bishops. You can’t turn core societal instutions over to perverts and expect them to be “conserved”.

    I think, the Church would do well move to the practices allowed in the Eastern Catholic Churches and allow married priests. Being married is the normal healthy state and the Church needs the support of normal healthy men to thrive.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  297. Steve, you’re not comparing apples with apples. You can’t compare nerdy left-wing ideologues with 1960s hedonists like the Rolling Stones. Most earnest SJW types were ugly and uncool in the 1960s as well. The only difference is that today our neoliberal overlords have allowed these uncool left-wing ideologues to become part of the establishment.

  298. @Anonymous

    Wow.

    If you have to ask….

    This piece just barely scrapes the topmost picometer of the iceberg.

    The link between father and son is not only of the perishable flesh: it must have something of aeternitas about it.

  299. Schron, Tabak, Boymelgreen, Gindi , Bistricer , Singer, Piller , ( hasidic ) Goldman , Brunner, Mandel, Lichtenstein, Homnick , Moskovits, Barnett et al combined have much larger portfolios than Lefrak, Solow etc. They are probably more leveraged so not quite as wealthy. They are also much more active, so their patronage , at this point , is more useful probably than that of the older more established secular Jewish firms. Be that as it may, Yeshiva connections are very useful indeed there. Just as examples Barnett and Tabak started out as poor boys from large families, ( its true that Barnett married into some wealth though).

    • Replies: @Kaganovitch
    , @Anonymous
  300. @Jack D

    Schron, Tabak, Boymelgreen, Gindi , Bistricer , Singer, Piller , ( hasidic ) Goldman , Brunner, Mandel, Lichtenstein, Homnick , Moskovits, Barnett et al combined have much larger portfolios than Lefrak, Solow etc. They are probably more leveraged so not quite as wealthy. They are also much more active, so their patronage , at this point , is more useful probably than that of the older more established secular Jewish firms. Be that as it may, Yeshiva connections are very useful indeed there. Just as examples Barnett and Tabak started out as poor boys from large families, ( its true that Barnett married into some wealth though). Of course people like the Rothschilds wouldn’t be caught dead within a mile of a Yeshiva, or probably any Hebrew school for that matter, so they must learn their gematriot elsewhere. Perhaps from communing with the Devil?

  301. @Kaganovitch

    Oy, I double posted I think, Apologies.

  302. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    As we have seen from the Catholic priest scandals (the gay priests were probably typical gay men but the “spotlight” was shone on them so we know more about them than we do about most gays, statistically – generally speaking it’s off limits to study, let along regulate, gay behavior) gay men, to the extent that they are interested in pursuing relations with minors, are usually interested in post-pubescent teenage boys, not children (just as most heterosexual men are more interested in 16 year old girls than in 9 year old girls). The correct term for this perversion is ephebophilia, not pedophilia. Depending on the local age of consent, the relationship between the parties (e.g. teacher-student), whether consent is actually given, etc. such relationships may or may not be illegal. But saying that a lot of gay men are “pedophiles” gives people images of them molesting little boys. While this happens on rare occasions (as does molestation of little girls by heterosexual men), it’s not at all typical gay behavior and most gay “pedophilia” is really “ephebophilia”, which is not quite the same thing. If you accept gay sex itself as not being inherently immoral, then it is no more immoral than relationships between heterosexual men and teenage girls, which are somewhat accepted.

    • Replies: @Anon
  303. Art Deco says:
    @snorlax

    The primary consideration in the appointment of NYS judges is personal loyalty to Andrew Cuomo, particularly respecting any future prosecution of him or his associates.

    You fancy Barack Obama and Congressionial blue-slippers are less interested in that? (And, btw, the process in New York leaves Cuomo with less discretion than the President has).

    Doesn’t matter if you call me autistic. You’re still not going to find functioning ward clubs in New York.

    • Replies: @snorlax
  304. @AnotherDad

    I think, the Church would do well move to the practices allowed in the Eastern Catholic Churches and allow married priests. Being married is the normal healthy state and the Church needs the support of normal healthy men to thrive.

    Celibacy is the normal, healthy state of those gifted with religious vocations. It is a great grace and charism, an immeasurable font of spiritual richness. This is what the Church needs to thrive.

    All the BS about married priests is just more of the same happy-clappy Vatican Two-ism that let the homos in in the first place.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  305. Anonymous[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kaganovitch

    Is Barnett really a Jewish name? It sounds French or English.

  306. anonymous[247] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Pederasty is the norm for homosexuals already. They will want to bring it into the open.

    When gay marriage was brought in, we got the argument that homosexuals would finally come above ground and live ‘normal’ lives with their partners. They would essentially become exactly like heterosexuals, but with same sex spouses.

    In reality, they are promoting a promiscuous, hedonistic ‘gay’ lifestyle for heterosexuals. Instead of straightening out gays once and for all, we are doing the opposite, as gay norms become the societal standard. I’m afraid the pederasty thing will eventually become normalized. Gays have a very large influence on women, and with women on side, it’s difficult to stop their outlook from gaining traction.

  307. Anon[232] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    gay men, to the extent that they are interested in pursuing relations with minors, are usually interested in post-pubescent teenage boys, not children

    True, but even if homos are into older boys or teens, there are connections between elements of homo community and pedo community. And some belong to both.

    Also, it’s slippery slope. From 15 to 14. Then 14 to 13. Then 13 to 12. Then 12 to 11.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  308. Clyde says:
    @slumber_j

    Hurting professions means they are violating the Hippocratic Oath. Yeah, I know not all are MDs by any stretch, but still the first order is “Do no harm”.

  309. @Intelligent Dasein

    Ah, but the simple priesthood is not a religious vocation in the strict sense of the word. This the Orthodox have always understood: the country parson is allowed to marry, while the monks are not, and only from their ranks are bishops chosen.

  310. L Woods says:

    The reasons for dwelling on one’s formative years are pretty obvious: they’re the ones that matter. Adult life is an empty, meaningless blur — everything that makes life worth living, if it’s ever going to happen, happens then. “Move on,” you say; move on to what? At a certain point in life, you realize that it’s never getting better. That was it. That was my life. There’s naught to “move on” to but darkness.

    Incidentally, college was much worse for me than high school: the product of grievous academic mismatch. It was the most embittering, disappointing, miserable time of my life, which, yes, reverberates to this day. Always lovely to have the never ending “college is a great time for all” trope rubbed in my face yet again though. That’s what I stick around for.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    , @Anonymous
  311. L Woods says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    You know how false peaks are a thing? Yeah. So are false valleys. It doesn’t get better.

  312. L Woods says:
    @Jack D

    Not really. This is a feel good boomer myth. The winners early in life tend to keep on being the winners, and even if not, then won what counts when it counted most. The idea that some math nerd “wins” bc he gets a cube job later is ridiculous.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  313. @Anonymous

    He was born Gershon Swiatiski iirc.

  314. @istevefan

    All the negative stories about kids (like – “don’t have them”) will be illustrated by a generic white family, all the ‘normal’ stories about kids, childrearing etc will be illustrated by a generic “mixed” family. It’s almost an iron rule.

  315. @Spaulding Smails

    You could form a hip-hop duo with a partner called Head Large.

    In fact, just as the classic formula for creating an alias in pornography is to combine the names of one’s childhood pet with one’s childhood street (“Rusty Folsom,” “Sandy Anderson,” – that kind of thing) so rap names can be crafted combining a sporting-goods brand with an adjective: Furious Puma, Callaway Slim, Ebon Atomic, Big Champion, Naughty North Face, Timberland – oh, wait; that last one seems familiar….

  316. Anon[849] • Disclaimer says:

    Yes, the 60s were way cooler than the Current Year and it’s not even close. At least they liked to have fun back then. This new crop are simply anti-pleasure, anti-joy, and anti-life. They are implicit Satanists. And why did people stop drinking as much as they used to? People used to like partying and getting messed up and having fun.

    And if getting women is the judge of alpha (funny how people who have been reasonably successful with women all their life don’t obsess over romantic partners as the judge of a man), there is more than one way to get women. Knowledge of literature, a silver tongue, and a Locrian melody will get more women than acting like an “alpha” jackass. But most women of fertile age in America are so horrible personality-wise that they simply are not worth the trouble to even engage with them. Truly some of the nastiest people in the entire world. Out of first world countries – different story.

  317. @Anon

    She didn’t have the face to launch a thousand ships, but at least she wasn’t a fatbody like Denham, Dunham, Durham (whatever):

    • Replies: @Lurker
  318. @L Woods

    Adult life is an empty, meaningless blur — everything that makes life worth living, if it’s ever going to happen, happens then. “Move on,” you say; move on to what? At a certain point in life, you realize that it’s never getting better. That was it. That was my life. There’s naught to “move on” to but darkness.

    I must admit you’ve put your finger on it with this bit. I recommend marriage and family if possible (increasingly it is not, which exacerbates the ennui): enduring the drudgery for the sake of a beloved child is far easier than otherwise. A man can endure much, and eagerly, for the sake of those dear to him which he would not tolerate for himself alone.

  319. Corvinus says:
    @Autochthon

    “I’m just not sure it’s wise to rely on Jesus to make any case against segregation.”

    Are you sure about that?

    Billy Graham, 1957 –> The whole trend of Scriptural teaching is toward racial understanding. Many use the Scriptures that were applied to Israel. It is true that God called Israel to be unique among the nations and told them to separate themselves from the evil nations round about them. But the white race cannot possibly claim to be the chosen race nor can the white race take for themselves promises that were applied to ancient Israel. . . Jim Crow must go. It is absolutely ridiculous to refuse food or a night’s lodging to a man on the basis of skin color. . . Modern communications and travel have made the entire world a neighborhood. Who is our neighbor? Jesus gave us the answer in the parable of the Good Samaritan, and yet the Samaritan showed who his neighbor was by helping a person of another race. . . .The message of Christ has led to many great social revolutions and upheavals in history. We are certainly living in one of those crucial periods of social change at the moment, largely caused by the penetration of the teaching of the Scriptures. These periods of history are not easy nor can this type of social change take place over night. Great love, understanding and patience must be exercised by all.”

    Stephen Jones—president of Bob Jones University, in 1977–“For almost two centuries American Christianity, including BJU in its early stages, was characterized by the segregationist ethos of American culture. Consequently, for far too long, we allowed institutional policies regarding race to be shaped more directly by that ethos than by the principles and precepts of the Scriptures. We conformed to the culture rather than providing a clear Christian counterpoint to it. In so doing, we failed to accurately represent the Lord and to fulfill the commandment to love others as ourselves. For these failures we are profoundly sorry. Though no known antagonism toward minorities or expressions of racism on a personal level have ever been tolerated on our campus, we allowed institutional policies to remain in place that were racially hurtful.”

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  320. @Dtbb

    Generally, if you’re out in public, you can be legally photographed. Even if you are on private property and visible to someone on public property or a public easement, you can be photographed. (Texas law stipulates anything that can be seen with the naked eye can be photographed, though using zoom lenses for such is prohibited, i.e. taking a nude pic of someone in their fenced in backyard from 300 yards away after you climbed a tree to see them.)

    Of course, varying exceptions exist, like some random dude taking pics of (mainly) children for sexual gratification, using the image for commercial purposes (news pics are excepted), and the like.

  321. @Dtbb

    You are asking the wrong guy these questions, Dtbb. I wouldn’t know but am surprised no one has written you back with the answers. Jack D. is a lawyer, I believe, who knows about a lot of varied subjects. (Maybe our comments are just too far down, and iSteve is about 10 posts ahead of this now!)

    • Replies: @Jack D
  322. @Travis

    Again, Travis, I’m writing about tactics, not big long-term strategy. I mean flipped around in public opinion when one of these incidents just gets enough white people not only aware, but unafraid to chime in in support. After just one such incident in which no white people back down and no apologies are forthcoming, the real Americans will be greatly emboldened for the next time, and the next time …

  323. Anonymous[133] • Disclaimer says:
    @L Woods

    The reasons for dwelling on one’s formative years are pretty obvious: they’re the ones that matter.

    Why do you consider those years to be the years that matter?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  324. Not really. This is a feel good boomer myth. The winners early in life tend to keep on being the winners, and even if not, then won what counts when it counted most. The idea that some math nerd “wins” bc he gets a cube job later is ridiculous.

    No, it’s not a boomer myth. High school athletic prowess is not a useful life skill. What BTW does it mean that they won when it counts most? Is it really your contention that what happens in four years of your adolescence is more significant than what happens in the rest of your life, marriage , children etc.? A remarkably peculiar weltanschauung .

    • Replies: @L Woods
  325. @Prodigal son

    That would explain a lot. They’re good at spotting what can be used to hurt others in a social situation. The valor they’re stealing is their victims’.

  326. Anonymous[254] • Disclaimer says:
    @snorlax

    Go see the YouTube comments on Beatles videos today and you’ll find them full of young girls declaring their love for Paul (as he was 50 years ago, naturally).

  327. @Colin Wright

    They need to experience actual trauma. It will help them to gain perspective.

    One of the Victory Girl bloggers has a review of Michelle Obama’s book and it is even worse than you think. The book, that is.

    https://victorygirlsblog.com/from-the-vg-bookshelf-becoming-by-michelle-obama-part-i/

  328. Jack D says:
    @L Woods

    What if he becomes a quant and makes a billion $ on Wall Street? Then has he won? Does it really count “the most” to have peaked when you are the HS QB at age 17 if you spend the rest of your life as an aluminum siding salesman?

    • Replies: @L Woods
  329. @Anonymous

    Maybe it explains an extensive experience with cockroaches…?

  330. @Corvinus

    I hadn’t kept up with the speeches Jesus of Nazareth gave during the twentieth century under the aliases “Billy Graham” and “Stephen Jones” – thanks!

    The parable of the good Samaritan espouses basic humanity and civility toward strangers, even aliens, to include helping them at dire need; it doesn’t mention miscegenation nor even a halt to the segregation of different peoples. (One can argue Saint Paul wrote some stuff in that vein.)

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  331. Jack D says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    What S. Texas Guy said. Of course we have 50 different sets of state laws (not to mention other countries) but in most places it’s pretty much as he describes – the question is whether you are in a place where you have a “reasonable expectation of privacy”. And if you can be seen without violating that expectation then you can also be photographed or filmed, which is just capturing what the public can see already anyway. Oddly enough, sound recording may be more problematic – in some places you can’t be recorded without your consent.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  332. snorlax says:
    @Art Deco

    You fancy Barack Obama and Congressionial blue-slippers are less interested in that?

    Yes, because 1) no President has ever been prosecuted, much less a MSM and Deep State darling like Obama, 2) federal judicial nominees are much higher profile and must be at least seen as having unimpeachable character and qualifications and 3) post-Tony Rezko (which is probably past the statute of limitations and wouldn’t in any event be a federal case) Obama hasn’t engaged in the sort of poorly-disguised petty corruption typical of NYS politicians.

    And, btw, the process in New York leaves Cuomo with less discretion than the President has

    The Judicial Selection Commission and State Senate are filled with hacks that put Cuomo himself to shame and share a mutual interest in quashing corruption prosecutions.

    You’re still not going to find functioning ward clubs in New York.

    You actually are, but that’s beside the point; there is a political machine filled with hacks, flunkies, payoffs and patronage. It trades in loyalty, not brainpower or work ethic, and therefore its membership won’t necessarily have impressive educational credentials.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  333. @Jack D

    Man, you’ve gotta be quick to keep up these days! My comment shows posted about 7 min before S. Texas guy’s reply, so that reply was not visible to me as I wrote, suggesting your advice. Thanks, Jack, and S.Texas guy.

  334. @peterike

    Catholic schools are not what they were (nothing escapes the Poz), but they still offer a solid alternative to public school depravity.

    I told the principal of the Catholic k-8 school my kids went to that I didn’t mind if they read Heather Has Two Mommies as long as they learned the 3 Rs.

    It was dirt cheap in the mid-90s ($3k for two kids), but they had to raise tuition because they had exactly 1 teaching nun, and they were losing all the civilians to the public schools that were paying $40k to start.

    Tuition was up to $5k per year per kid when they graduated, and the Catholic high school was $11k per kid per year. Money well spent.

  335. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    Slippery slope arguments are almost always weak. Marijuana is harmless but it’s a gateway to heroin so we are going to send you to prison for 20 years for carrying a joint. For your own good. That kind of thing.

  336. L Woods says:
    @Jack D

    No, but you’re spinning an extreme and unrepresentative scenario as I’m sure you’re well aware.

  337. L Woods says:
    @Kaganovitch

    Considering that time passes slower when you’re younger, everything is more intensely felt, seems more meaningful, sets the tone for the rest of your life (success and failure alike tend to snowball), and that in our culture, you will never again have access to relatively unspoiled young women, yeah, I’d say those years are what count.

  338. Art Deco says:
    @snorlax

    You actually are, but that’s beside the point; t

    No, you’re not. Even thirty years ago, an LD chairman where I was living couldn’t get more than 1/4 of his committeemen to show up for a once-a-month meeting. You had some patronage jobs at the Board of Elections, on the legislature staff, and in the County Clerk’s office, but that was it.

    The Judicial Selection Commission and State Senate are filled with hacks that put Cuomo himself to shame and share a mutual interest in quashing corruption prosecutions.

    I’m sure you have their biographies memorized.

    Yes, because 1) no President has ever been prosecuted, much less a MSM and Deep State darling like Obama,

    I see you like non sequiturs.

    2) federal judicial nominees are much higher profile and must be at least seen as having unimpeachable character and qualifications and

    You fancy federal district judges have a higher profile than the state’s highest court? They aren’t.

  339. @South Texas Guy

    Two things always strike me when watching an old news clip/reel. The first is the lack of tattoos, and the second is how thin everyone was until relatively recently.

    You must be a youngster because the tattoo thing is only 25 years old.

  340. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @South Texas Guy

    I’ve seen the movies the navy made of the atomic bomb test near Bikini Island. There were thousands of sailors on the ships.

    They were so thin compared to men today

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  341. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @phil

    I’ve noted that for s long time. The legal age of pedophilia is 12 and younger so they’re not pedophilias at all. They’re molesters seducers of teen angers

    They are homosexuals. That’s all.

    It’s amazing how the media and the morons who follow its propaganda can twist their minds to ignite the fact that those priests are homosexuals.

  342. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Autochthon

    I always thought Elvis was ugly. Like Marlon Brando another ugly man he had fat cheeks. Ugh. Fat cheeks are ugly.

  343. Corvinus says:
    @Autochthon

    “I hadn’t kept up with the speeches Jesus of Nazareth gave during the twentieth century under the aliases “Billy Graham” and “Stephen Jones” – thanks!”

    The point is that these two influential Christians spoke about Jesus’ commitment to inclusion for ALL of His people, especially when it comes to salvation. Segregation by that extension is unholy.

    “The parable of the good Samaritan espouses basic humanity and civility toward strangers, even aliens, to include helping them at dire need”

    Basic humanity and civility does NOT mean one is morally justified to separate people merely because of their race. Segregation essentially made black Christians”strangers” to their white brethren.

    “it doesn’t mention miscegenation nor even a halt to the segregation of different peoples. (One can argue Saint Paul wrote some stuff in that vein.)”

    Red herring.

  344. @Anonymous

    It’s to do with compound interest, both upon both wealth and upon debt.

  345. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    Contraception abortion and sodomy have been around for thousands of years.

    In fact, despite the Hyppocratic Oath, abortion wasn’t illegal in European American society until the 1860s 70s.

  346. @Jack D

    Billy Joel[‘s] wives, who tend to be supermodels, tower over him.

    Out of Billy Joel’s 4 wives, 1 has been a supermodel, although he dated others between wives 1 and 2.

  347. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Paul Graham has a lot of interesting things to say about this phenomena.

  348. @Jasper Been

    Don King has literally gone to prison for killing someone.

    Also, King is still alive at 87.

  349. anon[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    They are pretty good. An insult comic’s religion seems most appropriate in these times.

  350. E e says:
    @Spaulding Smails

    My cynical interpretation would be that “It gets better” lacks the panicky sense of urgency necessary for getting parents to sign on to transition treatments for their kids…

  351. @Anon

    I agree with your point that obesity is now rampant (it’s an empirical fact), but unless you mean those sailors were thinner than sailors today, they’re a bad example to cite.

    Sailors, soldiers, athletes, firefighters: these people are required to be fit; if they cease to be, they lose their jobs and are no longer members of the respective group. There are no fat sailors (I’m referring to naval sailors, of course, not those on civilian ships, some of whom are doubtless fatties.)

    I always got a kick out of McHale’s Navy. Sure, the plots were all unrealistic, but I could accept that as part of the suspension of disbelief expected of me for screwball comedy, yet somehow Borgnine’s being so tubby always glaringly intruded. No officer would be permitted to become that fat.

    Belay my last!

    Lookee what I just found:

    GloboHomo wins again.

  352. @Anonymous

    Wow, we should spread awareness of the Black Israelites and these videos far and wide, I can’t think of anything more calculated to undermine the Democrat’s rainbow coalition.

  353. Lagertha says:
    @Anon

    I don’t believe anything you just tried (and Jack D) to sell me, and I am not Catholic or belong to a church. I want all people that push pedo to “go down,” and be exposed and destroyed.

    Also, I speak 5 languages. You assumed I am stupid; a drunken-ass; as some here think I am (sorry, Twinkie :D). I am more, of what they used to call: eccentric.

    What I am telling you: Conservatives think all Democrats are Pedos – it is too late – all the acts of Democrats with their hormones for kids/bathrooms-locker-rooms for kids/abortions at 9 months ok, has backfired – people, Christian and Muslim in Texas do not want same sex toilets and showers.

  354. Lagertha says:
    @Anon

    I have no idea what you are trying to make excuses for…or imply…whatever, I get it – you know what I say scares the shit out of Normies and optics/ads for campaigns, etc. For once, follow your true heart: would you want your daughter/child to be taken for use? Be a man for fuck’s sake…be a father. I can’t even believe I need to say this…implore American men, Jewish, Christian, Muslim whatever, to find their heart…to see WHAT IS COMING….protect your children and families like I protect mine. For once in your lives, do the right thing.

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