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From The Root, the online black magazine owned by Hillary financier Haim Saban’s Univision:

The 5 Types of ‘Becky’

Michael Harriot
8/29/17 3:10pm Filed to: BECKY

… Not all white women are Beckys, but all Beckys are white women. … And after much discussion, our experts came up with five subgroups into which all Beckys can be categorized.

Rebecca

This is the standard, off-the shelf Becky with no adornments, around whom the entire world revolves. When “alt-righters” recite the 14 words, “Because the beauty of the white Aryan woman must not perish from the earth,” this is about whom they are talking. This is for whom they made Forever 21. This is for whom they make Pantene hair conditioner. This is for whom they made America.

… She begins every sentence with “Well, actually … ” She hates the term “Becky.”

Identifying call: “Well, actually, my name is Rebecca.”

Famous Rebeccas: Taylor Swift; Megyn Kelly; the girl in your study group who makes an A while doing none of the work.

Becca

The most innocent of all Beckys, she volunteers at the local Boys & Girls Club teaching underprivileged youths. She voted for Barack Obama. She wears a safety pin and has a Black Lives Matter T-shirt. One of Becca’s best friends is black. She is an “ally.” Did I mention she voted for Barack Obama? …

Identifying call: “I voted for Barack Obama. Twice.”

Famous Beccas: Hillary Clinton; Katy Perry; white women who work at “nonprofits.”

Beckeisha

Part of the privilege of Beckydom rests in its members’ unflagging belief that everything belongs to them. For this subset of Beckys, culture, history and black penis are all disposable commodities for them to use and discard at their whim. …

Identifying call: “I dated a black guy in college.”

Famous Beckeishas: Anyone with the last name “Kardashian”; Miley Cyrus; Rachel Dolezal; white girls who twerk.

Reba

Reba believes in equality. Reba is a feminist. Reba is “woke.”

Reba believes in a woman’s right to choose and wore a pink pussy hat to the Women’s March, but Reba believes all lives matter. …

Identifying call: “Not all white women … ”

Famous Rebas: Amy Schumer; Lena Dunham; Jezebel readers.

 
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  1. I’m sure Cosmo will becoming out with their 5 types of Shanice any day now.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    ......and yet the black dudes fall over themselves trying to get them so they can dump their own women and any kids they have on the beta male taxpayer...
  2. Rebecca is beautiful. White men did indeed build the modern world for her.

    Every brown woman wants be Rebecca.

    • Agree: Bubba
    • Replies: @It's All Ball Bearings
    "This is for whom they made Forever 21. This is for whom they make Pantene hair conditioner. This is for whom they made America." and for whom Ted Nugent wrote "Wang Dang Sweet Poontang"
  3. Does this remind anyone else of The Three Faces of Eve?

  4. Other than the idea that young (or even middle aged) white women can be very frustrating to men, I really don’t get this.

    Maybe we want Whiskey to weigh in here?

    • Replies: @JW Bell
    The article is about the author's ex girlfriends. He's still mad.
    , @anonguy

    Other than the idea that young (or even middle aged) white women can be very frustrating to men, I really don’t get this.
     
    Are non-white women less frustrating to men than white women?
  5. This type of vitriol should be encouraged. The more unwelcome white women feel in the modern left wing media landscape the better.

    They hate Jewish comediennes, they hate “Pussy Marchers”, they hate long beautiful hair and they hate, hate, hate (Whiskey TM) white women who steal THEIR men (you had it coming Nicole!).

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Anonymous

    (you had it coming Nicole!).
     
    William Pierce certainly thought so. Said it several times.
  6. If anyone were to do a Derbyshire and publish a reverse version of this anti-White piece of race-hate, say “The 5 Types of Beckesha,” he would no doubt be fired, tarred and feathered. He would be Derbed.

    It bears repeating: The only form of race-hatred allowed is anti-White hatred. This hatred is not only allowed but promulgated by the likes of Haim Saban. This is simply a statement of fact supported by evidence like this article.

    • Agree: Mis(ter)Anthrope
    • Replies: @the Supreme Gentleman

    If anyone were to do a Derbyshire and publish a reverse version of this anti-White piece of race-hate, say “The 5 Types of Beckesha,” he would no doubt be fired, tarred and feathered.
     
    These days, he might be literally tarred, feathered and fired.
    , @Anonym
    I think that we will get the "Five types of Shaniquas" long before we get the "Five types of Esthers".

    E.g. The Golda. For when the standard Jewish names are not enough, your parents have to Precious Metalically Jewify it to the point where no one can possibly consider that the name could be Gentile. And only out of filial piety you don't change your last name to Cohen.
    , @Yan Shen

    Suppose you were a white person with a deep-seated dislike for black people, and you were intent on training your son to feel the same way. Suppose that, day after day, week after week, you instructed him to study the details of every instance of black-on-white crime. Say you advised your son to extrapolate from these incidents the notion that black people are generally dangerous, and that your zeal to present him with disturbing anecdotes along these lines never waned.

    You would be wrong, in just about every possible way: statistically, sociologically, morally. You would be doing your son a gross and damaging disservice. For yourself you would invite, and earn, broad contempt. If your opinions became publicly known, you might well find yourself unwelcome in polite company and your job at risk. Indeed, the National Review contributor John Derbyshire was fired for expressing such sentiments in a blog post three years ago.

    And yet for harboring roughly the same level of suspicion, fear, mistrust, distaste, and unease about whites as Derbyshire does about blacks, the essayist and blogger Ta-Nehisi Coates has found himself crowned America’s leading civic thinker.
     
    Yeah this point was well noted by another columnist online. While the black John Derbyshire gets crowned America's leading civic thinker for obsessing over whites, the white Ta-Nehisi Coates gets called out on for obsessing over blacks.
    , @Randal

    If anyone were to do a Derbyshire and publish a reverse version of this anti-White piece of race-hate, say “The 5 Types of Beckesha,” he would no doubt be fired, tarred and feathered.
     
    In Britain today, he would probably face prosecution if reported to the police.
    , @International Jew
    When it comes to hate, there seems to be some sort of universal conservation principle — Conservation of Hate. So the more carefully whites have to be tippy-toeing around what they can say about blacks, the more aggressive blacks get to be about what they say about whites.

    And much as you'd like to blame "the likes of Haim Saban", Minnesota Lutherans and New England Episcopalians are way worse.
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    A black woman named Shahrazad Ali DID do it back in the '80s. She escaped tar-and-feathers after The Blackman's Guide to Understanding the Blackwoman came out, but black women were calling her a race and gender traitor, self-hating black, Aunt Thomasina, etc.
    (Meanwhile, black men were coming up to her in the street and THANKING her.)
  7. They got the 14 words wrong. It’s supposed to be:

    We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children.

    • Replies: @Samuel Skinner
    There are actually two versions (that are intended to complement each other). The one they are referring to is We must not let the beauty of the white women vanish from the Earth.
    , @Desiderius
    I doubt that was unintentional.

    The next thing they get right will be the first. All the thumbs on the scale.
  8. I hate to say it but hopefully a lot of tenured academics, national journalists and Washington think-tankers will be called Beckys early and often. The only way for this to be considered “problematic” is if it becomes a problem for the social circle that appears on CNN and MSNBC. America could have an epidemic of cannibalism lasting over a year and they wouldn’t report on it until Joe Scarborough’s yoga instructor was eaten in front of him.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • LOL: Abe
    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    America could have an epidemic of cannibalism lasting over a year and they wouldn’t report on it until Joe Scarborough’s yoga instructor was eaten in front of him.
     
    LOL. Another classic from Mr. Beast.
  9. Amazingly, this was written by a man.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Yes, he is one of the five Tyrones, the extra fruity variety. Though most Tyrones are on the Spectrum.

    Nobody really talks about this, but there is a reason so many black men have AIDS, and it isn't intravenous drug use.

    I know, guys who wear their pants around their knees exposing their raw undies to the world, you might think they're tough guy gangsters. That doesn't mean they don't bang each other.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/afrika-bambaataa-accused-sex-abuse-men-article-1.2603875
  10. This may have been written by a man, but the “experts” he references are certainly female. This stinks of interracial jealousy. No hetero black man is sitting around thinking up insults for the Kardashians or Taylor Swift. But you know who is? The women who know that to the best men of their race, they are the second option, to be settled for if things don’t go well with the “Beckys”.

    As an aside, the two demographics most likely to date outside their race are asian women and black men. Unsuprisingly, the two demographics then most opposed to race-mixing are asian men and black women.

    • Replies: @üeljang
    "Unsuprisingly, ..."

    Unsurprising to whom?

    As a white male, I find it incredible that Asian women (I'm talking about East Asian women, not whatever someone in England might think of when they hear the word "Asian") would be the most likely to date outside their race without horrific doses of delusional narcissism (either that or desperation to escape their homelands and co-ethnics).

    I want to know on what evidence derived from what context you have based your claim that Asian women are the most likely to date outside their race. I presume that you have merely parroted some figures reported by a certain dating website used mainly or exclusively by people in the USA.

    , @ogunsiron
    I'm guessing the writer is a blm feminist.
    The kind of black male who has fully internalized the point of view of the black tranzlesbo self-apppointed moral leaders. I imagine that ta-nehesi coates feels more or less the same about white women.
  11. “Black” magazines are okay. “White” magazines are racist.

  12. Hey iSteve, why did you leave out #5 Beckzilla?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Didn't want to excerpt too much.
  13. @Ed
    Other than the idea that young (or even middle aged) white women can be very frustrating to men, I really don't get this.

    Maybe we want Whiskey to weigh in here?

    The article is about the author’s ex girlfriends. He’s still mad.

    • Replies: @guest
    This reeks of sexual jealousy, not bitterness. He's channeling black women, who are at the bottom of the racio-sexual hierarchy. They despise white women, who are at the top. (Some say Asians, but that's a fad. I say by and large they lack requisite secondary sexual characteristics.)
  14. Jerry Pournelle has died. RIP.

    • Replies: @2Mintzin1
    Very sorry to hear that...read his recent column , he was not feeling well.
    A scientist , a patriot, and a fine writer.
    Started reading him many years ago, when he co-wrote with Niven.

    RIP

    , @Dave Pinsen
    Sad to hear.

    Enjoyed a few of the books he cowrote.
    , @cthulhu
    Pournelle was one of the clearest thinkers of the last 50 years; a huge loss.
    , @Rod1963
    I'm sorry to hear that. I remember reading his articles in Byte Magazine - back in the early 80's, then his sci-fi novels like Co-Dominium series, High Justice, etc,
    , @middle aged veteran
    Nobody wants to live this mortal life on this fallen earth forever. Sad for his wife, though, he was apparently a fun guy to be around, and anybody who had the pleasure to know him will miss him, from what I have heard. I heard he died in his sleep - which, if my medical and spiritual knowledge is correct, means, if you are a good person who loves the Lord, you are sleeping and your heart gives out - there is really no other organ that can go bad while you are sleeping to such an extent and so quickly as to kill you in moments - well, your heart goes out, waking you up - seriously, that sort of thing would wake anybody up - and, God willing, you have time to reflect on the goodness of the Lord and all the gifts you have been given. Well, read the Bible like Jerry did, pray to God like he did. He set a good example in many ways. Forget the Rest in Peace: instead, Rejoice in Eternity.
  15. 3 out of 4 types of “Beckys” are SJW. Not a huge diversity of white women in Michael Harriot’s world.

    Incidentally, I’d like to know the real story of that white girl in Michael’s study group who “made an A while doing none of the work.” Is this what one may call projection?

    • Replies: @Alden
    How does he know she did none of the work?
  16. What do woke white feminists reading this think? “Man these people hate me no matter what I say or do.” Or do they double down to an ever greater level of obsequiousness (and zany self-hatred) that will prove that they aren’t a fake ally like that white supremacist Hillary Clinton?

    I’m guessing the latter.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    This Becky says you've guessed right: https://twitter.com/beccakatharine/status/900034854754033664
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    Some are playing along like it's all in good fun. Though I suspect a good many might realize just what a mean-spirited insult this is, given the extent to which so many white feminists have so clearly and enthusiastically chosen team everybody-against-white-men. It is enjoyable watching the Jezebel crowd, who were called out by name, degrading themselves in the process, however.
    , @guest
    "Or do they double down..."

    SJWs always double down. Somebody had that as a rule in some book.

    "...to an ever greater level of obsequiousness?"

    That's the Diversity Pokemon game. Blacks gots more points n sheet, y'all!
    , @ogunsiron
    A lot of them double down. Every time the intersectionals come up with a really outrageous demand, we think "finally the white allies will wake up now!". They often don't.

    Remember during the Bernie campaign when the 2 BLM "emotional laborers" shut down his speech to complain about white people ? Did that shock the white allies into stopping being doormats ? Not sure.

    BLM has been complaining for a couple of years now about white allies taking too much space and not letting themselves be led by the nose. They loudly complained about this. One would have thought that this would have led to white allies rethinking their commitment. Not necessarily. During the evergreen events we saw that the younger white allies are gladly playing the role of hired help. They DO defer to "black students", more and more. The very idea of standing up for themselves seems repulsive to them.
  17. It’s all about them. There are millions of white people,and half of them women, who do not care nor think about African-Americans any more than needed.

    They also forgot the subset in their “Reba” Venn diagram who suddenly are way less woke when their kids might one less fine first day of school find themselves in a classroom filled with underclass project-dwelling diversity.

    • Replies: @Sunbeam
    "It’s all about them. There are millions of white people,and half of them women, who do not care nor think about African-Americans any more than needed. "

    I don't think they get this. The whole thing sounds like a pretty lame attempt at being witty.

    As an aside I've seen more references to 14 words and whatnot (and whatever is up with Hitler and 7) from the left than I've ever encountered in real life or checking out this site.

    Admittedly I don't look at Stormfront or any site like that. But exactly who is running around talking about 14 words and the other stuff? Frankly it sounds more like the kind of thing Farrakhan did with his "numbers" speech at the million man march. I.E. more a black thing than white.

    I have never met anyone into Nazi .... things like paraphernalia. I have met people who have an attachment to the Confederacy. My take is the Root people see what they want to see.

    Actually we've talked about it before on this site here and there, but you see more Nazi symbols and whatnot with biker gear and prison tatts. And I'm not real sure any of those guys have the slightest idea who Goebbels was or what's in Mein Kampf.
  18. @Ed
    Other than the idea that young (or even middle aged) white women can be very frustrating to men, I really don't get this.

    Maybe we want Whiskey to weigh in here?

    Other than the idea that young (or even middle aged) white women can be very frustrating to men, I really don’t get this.

    Are non-white women less frustrating to men than white women?

  19. As usual, you just can’t win with social justice zombies. Do you have right-wing nationalist views? Congratulations, you’re a hateful Beckzilla. Do you have left-wing pro-social justice views? Time to sit down and shut up, Beckeisha/Reba. Do you not really have strong views one way or the other? God, you’re such a privileged Rebecca.

    The extent to which SJWs love to attack white quislings as crypto-Nazis who secretly hate social justice is always fascinating. I suppose it could become a self-fulfilling prophecy if it goes on long enough…

  20. @Buzz Mohawk
    If anyone were to do a Derbyshire and publish a reverse version of this anti-White piece of race-hate, say "The 5 Types of Beckesha," he would no doubt be fired, tarred and feathered. He would be Derbed.

    It bears repeating: The only form of race-hatred allowed is anti-White hatred. This hatred is not only allowed but promulgated by the likes of Haim Saban. This is simply a statement of fact supported by evidence like this article.

    If anyone were to do a Derbyshire and publish a reverse version of this anti-White piece of race-hate, say “The 5 Types of Beckesha,” he would no doubt be fired, tarred and feathered.

    These days, he might be literally tarred, feathered and fired.

  21. I read this several days back when a commenter provided the link. Not bad.

    Weird that none of their black female writers had the initiative to step up and write this piece, which would seem to be up their alley. Perhaps just too much froth and spittle–impossible for the gals to calm down enough to actually write.

    I don’t believe that Beckeishas are actually Beckys. At least as i’ve always understood the term. (They just coal burning sluts.) But perhaps–not black–i just don’t have a good enough sense for the full flavor of beckyhood.

    Please pass this on to as many white women as possible. Just understanding what their buddies *actually* think of them–their actual position in the pecking order–will be a key step in turning them.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Please pass this on to as many white women as possible. Just understanding what their buddies *actually* think of them–their actual position in the pecking order–will be a key step in turning them.
     
    That would be nice.

    Four of the types involve some relation to black causes or identity, so they can be seen in that light, but the first type, Rebecca, is nothing more than an envious description of a smart, pretty, white gentile girl. It is pure racial hatred and envy:


    Rebecca

    This is the standard, off-the shelf Becky with no adornments, around whom the entire world revolves. When “alt-righters” recite the 14 words, “Because the beauty of the white Aryan woman must not perish from the earth,” this is about whom they are talking. This is for whom they made Forever 21. This is for whom they make Pantene hair conditioner. This is for whom they made America.

    … She begins every sentence with “Well, actually … ” She hates the term “Becky.”

    Identifying call: “Well, actually, my name is Rebecca.”

    Famous Rebeccas: Taylor Swift; Megyn Kelly; the girl in your study group who makes an A while doing none of the work.

     

    Turn it around thus:

    Lekeishanna

    This is the standard, off-the-shelf Lakeisha with no adornments, around whom the entire American entitlement system revolves. When "Black Lives Matter" marchers shout the six words, "What do we want? Dead cops!" they are exhorting all five baby daddies of Lekeishanna's five small children to take up arms and assassinate white police officers. This is for whom they made EBT cards. This is for whom they make hair weaves. This is for whom they bankrupted America.

    She begins every sentence with "Shit." She hates the term, "Lakeisha" and cannot spell it.

    Identifying call: "You ray-siss!"

    Famous Lekeishannas: any mob of fat black girls in a Mcdonald's caught on video beating the crap out of a white girl.

  22. @Buzz Mohawk
    If anyone were to do a Derbyshire and publish a reverse version of this anti-White piece of race-hate, say "The 5 Types of Beckesha," he would no doubt be fired, tarred and feathered. He would be Derbed.

    It bears repeating: The only form of race-hatred allowed is anti-White hatred. This hatred is not only allowed but promulgated by the likes of Haim Saban. This is simply a statement of fact supported by evidence like this article.

    I think that we will get the “Five types of Shaniquas” long before we get the “Five types of Esthers”.

    E.g. The Golda. For when the standard Jewish names are not enough, your parents have to Precious Metalically Jewify it to the point where no one can possibly consider that the name could be Gentile. And only out of filial piety you don’t change your last name to Cohen.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    I do like those little chocolate Golda Cohens around Christmastime, though.
  23. The Root is pretty slow reporting on the ‘Becky’ phenomenon. The term is already deeply embedded in the Woke vernacular. It’s even in ordinary work-a-day use in deepest flyover country, e.g. on the campus of the University of Nebraska: LINK.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    That PhD student looks like she is in her 50s. I would put the over/under the balance of her student loans currently in deferment at $95k. Good thing we are subsidizing all this with our tax dollars.
    , @guest
    Though this guy claims it evolved from BJ-speak, I always assumed the "Becky" Thing came from Sir Mix-a-Lot's magnum opus, Baby Got Back. ("Oh, my God, Becky...") So it's been in the white mainstream in at least one form for a while.
  24. A possible college race hoax is brewing at Texas A&M. Their coach is probably going to be fired and a racist threatening letter is supposedly sent to his house from a Houston area country club.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    Maybe the Post Offices down in Texas do it differently, but shouldn't the stamp have a cancellation mark over the top of it? That is, assuming it was actually mailed to the Sumlin's home.

    People of 2017: please tell me how any part of this is ok. And to the sender: did it occur to you that a child may open it?#orelseWHAT? pic.twitter.com/Co1s2Hb94r— charlene sumlin (@courshel) September 7, 2017
     
    , @The Real David
    The envelope has no postmark. Also, who puts a return address on their hate mail?

    The letter is so obviously fake that I don't think the MSM will run very hard with it.

    The phrasing of the "hate" is so inane it's funny.

    , @Patrick in SC
    That Texas A&M "racist letter" story stinks to high heaven. ESPN (of course) is swallowing it hook, line, sinker, boat and the entire lake. I suspect it's his (white) wife who is behind it. She knows her husband is on the way out, so she figures making him the victim of a racist letter will grant him immunity, at least for another year.
  25. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Becky” is old news, they even use it singular or plural in Marvel comics and probably Nickelodeon shows… I did not know about the 5 types. Hate to say it, but Beckeisha & Reba do exist… I think any black men who could benefit from this guide are likely to not see it or dey jest be illiterate, doe.

    Also, for as far back as I can recall, most fully-spelt Rebeccas I’ve met in California tend to be overeducated Jews. It may be that’s not true in the rest of the land, but I doubt The Root is hep to such intra-white distinctions.

  26. This is great parody, top notch…waitaminute, this clown is SERIOUS?!

  27. From “The 5 Types of Becky”

    Rebecca

    It is easy to recognize a Rebecca. She can’t understand how anyone could be cruel to a puppy, but turns the channel when they talk about Trayvon Martin.

    Beckzilla

    Beckzillas don’t give a fuck. They roam the streets stomping on everything, setting the world ablaze by spewing the flames of privilege every time they breathe.

    I like diversity: More Rebeccas and Beckzillas please! Thanks.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    The flames of privilege. That sounds epic.
  28. Envy is such a sad emotion. Instead of searching for anything of value in their own lives and unique existence, they build resentment toward those who are what they are not. Someone said its like drinking poison and wanting the other person to die.

  29. “Famous Beckeishas: Anyone with the last name “Kardashian”;”

    Wonder if this changes Kim Kardashian’s category?

    Leave Kim Kardashian West’s Surrogate Alone (VOGUE September 8, 2017)

    No sooner did news break that Kim and Kanye were expecting their 3rd child via surrogate than TMZ began to pounce on the private life of said surrogate. We were informed that the woman carrying the Wests’ baby is a “fit, married mom in her 20s,” that both she and her husband are African-American and “their marriage is solid,” and, just in case anyone was wondering, she’s a college graduate and a registered Democrat.

    Of course, the news that the Wests are having another child (aka America’s third royal baby) would be breathlessly covered news…. But a primer on the Wests’ surrogate is unnecessary and extreme….

    TMZ’s report also hits an awkward note—and not just due to its dense comment that because the surrogate is a college graduate, “maybe the kid will pick up some of that through osmosis.”

    “…through osmosis,” guess they can’t use the word “genes.”

    • Replies: @dr kill
    There is certainly a maternal effect on gene expression. The surrogate has a profound influence on the child in ways not fully appreciated or understood.

    Maternal Factors Are Associated with the Expression of Placental ...
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4682815/
  30. OT (why aren’t there iSteve open threads?), but Steve would have a lot of fun with Noah Smith’s recent paean to diversity:

    An America defined by white racial nationalism – an American Whitopia – would be an economic and cultural disaster movie. It would be a dysfunctional, crappy civilization, sinking into the fetid morass of its own decay. Some people think that an American Whitopia would be bad for people of color but ultimately good for whites, but this is dead wrong. Although nonwhite Americans would certainly suffer greatly, white American suffering under the dystopia of a Trumpist society would be dire and unending.

    http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com/2017/09/an-american-whitopia-would-be-dystopia.html

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    The first three countries that come to Noah's mind for anti-racists to flock to are interesting:

    Turn America into an ethnostate, and the smart white people will bolt for Canada, Australia, Japan, or wherever else isn't a racist hellhole.
     
    , @AnotherDad

    OT (why aren’t there iSteve open threads?), but Steve would have a lot of fun with Noah Smith’s recent paean to diversity:
     
    Steve, the Gentlemen is correct. This one could be great fun for the assembled.

    I flipped over and just got started on it and the ways in which Noah is nitwit just come bubbling up. Seriously his analogy--what the whitetopia America will be like is ... the Ukraine! And on and on from there, stupidity piled upon stupidity.

    Hey Noah, I've got an even better whitetopia prediction than the Ukraine--America from 1924 to 1965. Yep, an absolute hell hole that was!
    , @Expletive Deleted

    .. a dysfunctional, crappy civilization, sinking into the fetid morass of its own decay.
     
    Oh no, he must have been to Denmark. Europe's secret shame is out.
    , @ben tillman

    An America defined by white racial nationalism – an American Whitopia – would be an economic and cultural disaster movie. It would be a dysfunctional, crappy civilization, sinking into the fetid morass of its own decay. Some people think that an American Whitopia would be bad for people of color but ultimately good for whites, but this is dead wrong. Although nonwhite Americans would certainly suffer greatly, white American suffering under the dystopia of a Trumpist society would be dire and unending.
     
    Who's stupider -- Tennisy Coats or Noah Smith?
    , @ogunsiron
    I'm disappointed in how razib seems to respect the opinion of someone like noah smith.
  31. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    From “The 5 Types of Becky”

    Rebecca

    It is easy to recognize a Rebecca. She can’t understand how anyone could be cruel to a puppy, but turns the channel when they talk about Trayvon Martin.

    Beckzilla

    Beckzillas don’t give a fuck. They roam the streets stomping on everything, setting the world ablaze by spewing the flames of privilege every time they breathe.
     
    I like diversity: More Rebeccas and Beckzillas please! Thanks.

    The flames of privilege. That sounds epic.

  32. In other words, help me or not, but regardless, fuck you.

  33. To quote the Aliens character Ellen Ripley: “Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?”

  34. Google is your friend.
    The first black female physician in the US was Rebecca Lee Crumpler.

  35. While you guys focus on Mexico, Canada is projected to have a labour force of which 1/3 is foreign born, before the century’s out.

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1728-4457.2013.00614.x/abstract

    Goodluck Hombres.

  36. @AnotherDad
    I read this several days back when a commenter provided the link. Not bad.

    Weird that none of their black female writers had the initiative to step up and write this piece, which would seem to be up their alley. Perhaps just too much froth and spittle--impossible for the gals to calm down enough to actually write.

    I don't believe that Beckeishas are actually Beckys. At least as i've always understood the term. (They just coal burning sluts.) But perhaps--not black--i just don't have a good enough sense for the full flavor of beckyhood.

    Please pass this on to as many white women as possible. Just understanding what their buddies *actually* think of them--their actual position in the pecking order--will be a key step in turning them.

    Please pass this on to as many white women as possible. Just understanding what their buddies *actually* think of them–their actual position in the pecking order–will be a key step in turning them.

    That would be nice.

    Four of the types involve some relation to black causes or identity, so they can be seen in that light, but the first type, Rebecca, is nothing more than an envious description of a smart, pretty, white gentile girl. It is pure racial hatred and envy:

    Rebecca

    This is the standard, off-the shelf Becky with no adornments, around whom the entire world revolves. When “alt-righters” recite the 14 words, “Because the beauty of the white Aryan woman must not perish from the earth,” this is about whom they are talking. This is for whom they made Forever 21. This is for whom they make Pantene hair conditioner. This is for whom they made America.

    … She begins every sentence with “Well, actually … ” She hates the term “Becky.”

    Identifying call: “Well, actually, my name is Rebecca.”

    Famous Rebeccas: Taylor Swift; Megyn Kelly; the girl in your study group who makes an A while doing none of the work.

    Turn it around thus:

    Lekeishanna

    This is the standard, off-the-shelf Lakeisha with no adornments, around whom the entire American entitlement system revolves. When “Black Lives Matter” marchers shout the six words, “What do we want? Dead cops!” they are exhorting all five baby daddies of Lekeishanna’s five small children to take up arms and assassinate white police officers. This is for whom they made EBT cards. This is for whom they make hair weaves. This is for whom they bankrupted America.

    She begins every sentence with “Shit.” She hates the term, “Lakeisha” and cannot spell it.

    Identifying call: “You ray-siss!”

    Famous Lekeishannas: any mob of fat black girls in a Mcdonald’s caught on video beating the crap out of a white girl.

  37. I posted about stuff from this website before. It appears to have popped up after watching Get Out and taking the white paranoia too seriously.

    https://wearyourvoicemag.com/identities/race/we-need-to-talk-about-racism-tattoo-industry

    “Tattoos were invented by brown and Black people centuries—even millennia—before white supremacy became the dominant global paradigm.”

    I was curious about the claim.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi

    “Recent research into archaeological evidence for ancient tattooing has confirmed that Ötzi is the oldest tattooed human mummy yet discovered.”

    “By autosomal DNA, Ötzi is most closely related to southern Europeans, especially to geographically isolated populations like Corsicans and Sardinians.”

    A reconstruction of Otzi:

    So, obviously, white supremacy.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Otzi has the same facial expression as actor John C. Reilly.
    , @celt darnell
    Damn, dude, I'd have given them the tattoos.

    Frankly, they can have the crap -- they wallow in it, after all.
  38. @George
    Hey iSteve, why did you leave out #5 Beckzilla?

    Didn’t want to excerpt too much.

  39. @The Last Real Calvinist
    The Root is pretty slow reporting on the 'Becky' phenomenon. The term is already deeply embedded in the Woke vernacular. It's even in ordinary work-a-day use in deepest flyover country, e.g. on the campus of the University of Nebraska: LINK.

    That PhD student looks like she is in her 50s. I would put the over/under the balance of her student loans currently in deferment at $95k. Good thing we are subsidizing all this with our tax dollars.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    The people of Nebraska especially are getting their money's worth.
  40. @alaska3636
    I posted about stuff from this website before. It appears to have popped up after watching Get Out and taking the white paranoia too seriously.

    https://wearyourvoicemag.com/identities/race/we-need-to-talk-about-racism-tattoo-industry

    “Tattoos were invented by brown and Black people centuries—even millennia—before white supremacy became the dominant global paradigm.”

    I was curious about the claim.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi

    “Recent research into archaeological evidence for ancient tattooing has confirmed that Ötzi is the oldest tattooed human mummy yet discovered.”

    “By autosomal DNA, Ötzi is most closely related to southern Europeans, especially to geographically isolated populations like Corsicans and Sardinians.”

    A reconstruction of Otzi:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Oetzi_the_Iceman_Rekonstruktion_1.jpg

    So, obviously, white supremacy.

    Otzi has the same facial expression as actor John C. Reilly.

  41. Apparently this is the author: http://www.michaelharriot.com

    Given the ankh on his t-shirt top right (and absurd pharaoh beard), he’s what normal blacks call a hotep. http://www.theroot.com/hotep-explained-1790854506

    According to the ADL’s explanation of the “14 words,” Mr. Harriot can’t google. https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/14-words

  42. @Anonym
    I think that we will get the "Five types of Shaniquas" long before we get the "Five types of Esthers".

    E.g. The Golda. For when the standard Jewish names are not enough, your parents have to Precious Metalically Jewify it to the point where no one can possibly consider that the name could be Gentile. And only out of filial piety you don't change your last name to Cohen.

    I do like those little chocolate Golda Cohens around Christmastime, though.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    *groan*
  43. @e
    Jerry Pournelle has died. RIP.

    Very sorry to hear that…read his recent column , he was not feeling well.
    A scientist , a patriot, and a fine writer.
    Started reading him many years ago, when he co-wrote with Niven.

    RIP

  44. @e
    Jerry Pournelle has died. RIP.

    Sad to hear.

    Enjoyed a few of the books he cowrote.

  45. I don’t want to dignify this anti-White hate screed with a response, but this fag says “not all White women are beckys”, and then his categories I think cover close to 100% of White women… what exactly is a White woman supposed to do to avoid being a becky?

    I know the answer, but I would like to see his explanation.

  46. @e
    Jerry Pournelle has died. RIP.

    Pournelle was one of the clearest thinkers of the last 50 years; a huge loss.

    • Agree: jim jones
  47. @Sean c
    A possible college race hoax is brewing at Texas A&M. Their coach is probably going to be fired and a racist threatening letter is supposedly sent to his house from a Houston area country club.

    Maybe the Post Offices down in Texas do it differently, but shouldn’t the stamp have a cancellation mark over the top of it? That is, assuming it was actually mailed to the Sumlin’s home.

    People of 2017: please tell me how any part of this is ok. And to the sender: did it occur to you that a child may open it?#orelseWHAT? pic.twitter.com/Co1s2Hb94r— charlene sumlin (@courshel) September 7, 2017

    • Replies: @It's All Ball Bearings
    "postmark" great observation. this is most likely similar to Nikita Whitlock's vandalized apartment or LeBron James's vandalized home. still waiting for ESPN to report how those investigations turned out.
    , @Lot
    I get stamped mail without post marks all the time.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    I like the response to claims that the recursive N's indicate the author is female and over 30

    "You are condemning a racist note with sexist and ageist talk? WTF?"
  48. @Sean c
    A possible college race hoax is brewing at Texas A&M. Their coach is probably going to be fired and a racist threatening letter is supposedly sent to his house from a Houston area country club.

    The envelope has no postmark. Also, who puts a return address on their hate mail?

    The letter is so obviously fake that I don’t think the MSM will run very hard with it.

    The phrasing of the “hate” is so inane it’s funny.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    It is most likely a hoax, either by the Sumlins or someone sympathetic to them, but the media is already running hard with it. Texas A&M has already issued a statement condemning it and the county sheriff has opened an investigation. I'm sure it will get solved around the same time the Minneapolis mosque "bombing" is solved.

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/college-football-texas-am-kevin-sumlin-racist-letter
  49. @415 reasons
    What do woke white feminists reading this think? "Man these people hate me no matter what I say or do." Or do they double down to an ever greater level of obsequiousness (and zany self-hatred) that will prove that they aren't a fake ally like that white supremacist Hillary Clinton?

    I'm guessing the latter.

    This Becky says you’ve guessed right: https://twitter.com/beccakatharine/status/900034854754033664

    • Replies: @Thea
    She alsotweeted "Per my last retweet, please send why capitalism is terrible and what we can do about it reading suggestions."

    Would anyone suggest Mien kampf?
  50. The only thing you can do with this is thank the author and broadcast/circulate. Put it in front of as many white eyes as you can. I retweeted it yesterday to Tucker Carlson as soon as my suspension was lifted (complete with the Univision/Saban connection) and was hoping he might pick it up. He didn’t. :(

  51. @Buzz Mohawk
    If anyone were to do a Derbyshire and publish a reverse version of this anti-White piece of race-hate, say "The 5 Types of Beckesha," he would no doubt be fired, tarred and feathered. He would be Derbed.

    It bears repeating: The only form of race-hatred allowed is anti-White hatred. This hatred is not only allowed but promulgated by the likes of Haim Saban. This is simply a statement of fact supported by evidence like this article.

    Suppose you were a white person with a deep-seated dislike for black people, and you were intent on training your son to feel the same way. Suppose that, day after day, week after week, you instructed him to study the details of every instance of black-on-white crime. Say you advised your son to extrapolate from these incidents the notion that black people are generally dangerous, and that your zeal to present him with disturbing anecdotes along these lines never waned.

    You would be wrong, in just about every possible way: statistically, sociologically, morally. You would be doing your son a gross and damaging disservice. For yourself you would invite, and earn, broad contempt. If your opinions became publicly known, you might well find yourself unwelcome in polite company and your job at risk. Indeed, the National Review contributor John Derbyshire was fired for expressing such sentiments in a blog post three years ago.

    And yet for harboring roughly the same level of suspicion, fear, mistrust, distaste, and unease about whites as Derbyshire does about blacks, the essayist and blogger Ta-Nehisi Coates has found himself crowned America’s leading civic thinker.

    Yeah this point was well noted by another columnist online. While the black John Derbyshire gets crowned America’s leading civic thinker for obsessing over whites, the white Ta-Nehisi Coates gets called out on for obsessing over blacks.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    Yes.

    Derbyshire was only writing a reverse of the original, anti-white screed to make a point. Furthermore, contrary to the politically-correct clipping you shared, statistics actually learn way over in the direction of the views implied in what he wrote.

    Black and White are not the same. The data support Derbyshire, who does not "obsess" over blacks.

    , @Cloud of Probable Matricide
    I wondered why you referred to Coates as a "black Derb" (or something like that) in a previous post.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Your critiques of Derbyshire just reveal that you know little about him. He doesn't appeal to anecdote. He illustrates with anecdotes, but he appeals to data. If you want to keep making a fool of yourself, keep up this moral equivalency schtick.
  52. @Barnard
    That PhD student looks like she is in her 50s. I would put the over/under the balance of her student loans currently in deferment at $95k. Good thing we are subsidizing all this with our tax dollars.

    The people of Nebraska especially are getting their money’s worth.

  53. OT:

    Did you know, the KKK and the Alt-Right wants to kill Maxine Waters!

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-08/maxine-waters-theyre-trying-kill-me

    SHOCK! HORROR!

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    No! Nobody better hurt my Maxine! She's one of my favorite Congress creatures.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv9waETQic4

    She's one of the 5 Types of Lakeishas:

    Maxine

    The richest kind of Lakeisha, she is deeply embedded in whatever corrupt public monies exist in her community. She holds an administrative or political job for decades, raking in money from invisible sources, plus the public trough. Her low IQ is a non-issue, as she is surrounded by staff and protected by affirmative action.

    Identifying call: "You're a racist for asking!"
    , @tsotha
    Why would anyone want to kill Crazy Maxine? First of all she's an embarrassment to her fellow travelers, but beyond that she's about to crumble to dust anyway.
  54. @415 reasons
    What do woke white feminists reading this think? "Man these people hate me no matter what I say or do." Or do they double down to an ever greater level of obsequiousness (and zany self-hatred) that will prove that they aren't a fake ally like that white supremacist Hillary Clinton?

    I'm guessing the latter.

    Some are playing along like it’s all in good fun. Though I suspect a good many might realize just what a mean-spirited insult this is, given the extent to which so many white feminists have so clearly and enthusiastically chosen team everybody-against-white-men. It is enjoyable watching the Jezebel crowd, who were called out by name, degrading themselves in the process, however.

  55. @Yan Shen

    Suppose you were a white person with a deep-seated dislike for black people, and you were intent on training your son to feel the same way. Suppose that, day after day, week after week, you instructed him to study the details of every instance of black-on-white crime. Say you advised your son to extrapolate from these incidents the notion that black people are generally dangerous, and that your zeal to present him with disturbing anecdotes along these lines never waned.

    You would be wrong, in just about every possible way: statistically, sociologically, morally. You would be doing your son a gross and damaging disservice. For yourself you would invite, and earn, broad contempt. If your opinions became publicly known, you might well find yourself unwelcome in polite company and your job at risk. Indeed, the National Review contributor John Derbyshire was fired for expressing such sentiments in a blog post three years ago.

    And yet for harboring roughly the same level of suspicion, fear, mistrust, distaste, and unease about whites as Derbyshire does about blacks, the essayist and blogger Ta-Nehisi Coates has found himself crowned America’s leading civic thinker.
     
    Yeah this point was well noted by another columnist online. While the black John Derbyshire gets crowned America's leading civic thinker for obsessing over whites, the white Ta-Nehisi Coates gets called out on for obsessing over blacks.

    Yes.

    Derbyshire was only writing a reverse of the original, anti-white screed to make a point. Furthermore, contrary to the politically-correct clipping you shared, statistics actually learn way over in the direction of the views implied in what he wrote.

    Black and White are not the same. The data support Derbyshire, who does not “obsess” over blacks.

    • Replies: @Yan Shen
    Look man, I'm not saying I agree with the PC police who ousted white Ta-Nehisi Coates from the National Review. I'm not even saying that factually speaking Mr. Derbyshire is wrong per se.

    I do disagree that his version of the talk should be construed as merely trying to make a point by turning the anti-white animus of the black John Derbyshire on itself. I think white Ta-Nehisi Coates spoke from a place of honesty in his Talk in that the obsession and animus that he seems to have against African Americans in that article is often reflected in a number of his other writings as well. It wasn't exactly an isolated incident, but rather fit a larger pattern of the kinds of topics that interest him in general.

    White Ta-Nehisi Coates may have only written 1 article explicitly about being white, as he argued in his own self defense, but he sure seems to write a lot about race, hence the equivalency to black John Derbyshire!

    , @Desiderius
    Yan, the Chinese Keith Olbermann, has himself a hammer so everything looks like a nail.

    Moral equivalence is a helluva drug.
  56. @Sean c
    A possible college race hoax is brewing at Texas A&M. Their coach is probably going to be fired and a racist threatening letter is supposedly sent to his house from a Houston area country club.

    That Texas A&M “racist letter” story stinks to high heaven. ESPN (of course) is swallowing it hook, line, sinker, boat and the entire lake. I suspect it’s his (white) wife who is behind it. She knows her husband is on the way out, so she figures making him the victim of a racist letter will grant him immunity, at least for another year.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    He's the coach who blew a 34 point lead against UCLA?
    , @oddsbodkins
    A year in which he will be paid 5 million dollars.
  57. @The Real David
    The envelope has no postmark. Also, who puts a return address on their hate mail?

    The letter is so obviously fake that I don't think the MSM will run very hard with it.

    The phrasing of the "hate" is so inane it's funny.

    It is most likely a hoax, either by the Sumlins or someone sympathetic to them, but the media is already running hard with it. Texas A&M has already issued a statement condemning it and the county sheriff has opened an investigation. I’m sure it will get solved around the same time the Minneapolis mosque “bombing” is solved.

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/college-football-texas-am-kevin-sumlin-racist-letter

    • Replies: @Sean c
    Yes even if it turns out to be from a black coed the media will use it to further their agenda.
  58. @Emblematic
    They got the 14 words wrong. It's supposed to be:

    We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children.

    There are actually two versions (that are intended to complement each other). The one they are referring to is We must not let the beauty of the white women vanish from the Earth.

  59. @inertial
    Amazingly, this was written by a man.

    Yes, he is one of the five Tyrones, the extra fruity variety. Though most Tyrones are on the Spectrum.

    Nobody really talks about this, but there is a reason so many black men have AIDS, and it isn’t intravenous drug use.

    I know, guys who wear their pants around their knees exposing their raw undies to the world, you might think they’re tough guy gangsters. That doesn’t mean they don’t bang each other.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/afrika-bambaataa-accused-sex-abuse-men-article-1.2603875

  60. Anon • Disclaimer says: • Website

    Hillary is not Becca. She hated, hated, and hated Obama and swallowed her pride for 8 yrs to finally win the prize. She felt Obama cut in front of the line. 2008 was her perfect yr after 8 yrs of Bush. But Obama stole it from her. She was just being a team player. She blames Trump, she blames Bernie. But privately, she hates Obama the most.

    Also, the list is flawed because Rebecca is seen as having no agency. She is just a good-looker whose value is based on appeal to white males. She is a mere trophy.

    The others, good or bad, have are shown to have agency and make their own decisions. They define themselves. Funny how they all define themselves against whiteness. But then, they are really nothing but cartoony dogs of PC or pop culture. The trick of PC is fooling white women into thinking they are ‘liberated’ when everything they think and do is controlled by the system of media and academia.

    Where would Rand fit into the schema?

    This is a hagiographic film but still interesting.

    https://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/1998/03/ayn-rand-a-sense-of-life/

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Hillary was much healthier in 2008 than in 2016.

    She had some kind of health disaster in late 2012 and never really came all the way back, the way Reagan never really recovered from being shot in 1981.

    , @DFH
    Alyssa Rosenbaum fits in nowhere because she was not white
  61. @Patrick in SC
    That Texas A&M "racist letter" story stinks to high heaven. ESPN (of course) is swallowing it hook, line, sinker, boat and the entire lake. I suspect it's his (white) wife who is behind it. She knows her husband is on the way out, so she figures making him the victim of a racist letter will grant him immunity, at least for another year.

    He’s the coach who blew a 34 point lead against UCLA?

    • Replies: @Patrick in SC
    Yes. Kevin Sumlin.
    , @Barnard
    Yes. They had a bad season last year by SEC standards and about the only chance he has at retaining his job is to drum up public sympathy or score a couple of big upsets in conference play, like beating Alabama and LSU. There were calls to fire him immediately after the game, like what happened to Lane Kiffen at USC a few years ago, until this letter was released.
  62. @Buzz Mohawk
    Yes.

    Derbyshire was only writing a reverse of the original, anti-white screed to make a point. Furthermore, contrary to the politically-correct clipping you shared, statistics actually learn way over in the direction of the views implied in what he wrote.

    Black and White are not the same. The data support Derbyshire, who does not "obsess" over blacks.

    Look man, I’m not saying I agree with the PC police who ousted white Ta-Nehisi Coates from the National Review. I’m not even saying that factually speaking Mr. Derbyshire is wrong per se.

    I do disagree that his version of the talk should be construed as merely trying to make a point by turning the anti-white animus of the black John Derbyshire on itself. I think white Ta-Nehisi Coates spoke from a place of honesty in his Talk in that the obsession and animus that he seems to have against African Americans in that article is often reflected in a number of his other writings as well. It wasn’t exactly an isolated incident, but rather fit a larger pattern of the kinds of topics that interest him in general.

    White Ta-Nehisi Coates may have only written 1 article explicitly about being white, as he argued in his own self defense, but he sure seems to write a lot about race, hence the equivalency to black John Derbyshire!

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Michael Harriot is a staff writer at The Root, host of "The Black One" podcast and editor-in-chief of the daily digital magazine NegusWhoRead.

    http://neguswhoread.com/ : Smart Bold Brilliant Black

    That was a unfortunate choice. Negus Whore Ad is not something I want to pass my firewall.
    , @bomag

    I think white Ta-Nehisi Coates spoke from a place of honesty in his Talk in that the obsession and animus that he seems to have against African Americans in that article is often reflected in a number of his other writings as well. It wasn’t exactly an isolated incident, but rather fit a larger pattern of the kinds of topics that interest him in general.
     
    A bit unfair in that once you've waded into the pool of racial counterpoint, you are forevermore tarnished, so there is some compulsion to run with it and become the Voice on those matters.

    You admit that Derbyshire is honest in his assessments, which speaks volumes about today's discourse.
    , @Mis(ter)Anthrope
    Referring to John Derbyshire as the "white Ta-Nehisi Coates" makes you look like a total fool. Mr. Derbyshire is a very intelligent man and an excellent writer. You may not agree with his opinions, but I challenge you to refute them with facts, not ridiculous name calling.

    Ta-Nehisi Coats, on the other hand, is an affirmative action hack who uses big words to recycle the same "all blacks are victims of nasty whites" garbage.
    , @Meretricious
    John Derbyshire is highly intelligent and takes an argument where it logically leads. Please cite 1 instance where JD said something that was not factual. TC, on the other hand, is just another 108 IQ race hustler, like our former president
    , @Daniel Chieh
    I don't know why the heck you think that picking on one of the best columnists on Unz makes you look like anything but a total idiot. So much for that Confucian awareness.
  63. @Cagey Beast
    I hate to say it but hopefully a lot of tenured academics, national journalists and Washington think-tankers will be called Beckys early and often. The only way for this to be considered "problematic" is if it becomes a problem for the social circle that appears on CNN and MSNBC. America could have an epidemic of cannibalism lasting over a year and they wouldn't report on it until Joe Scarborough's yoga instructor was eaten in front of him.

    America could have an epidemic of cannibalism lasting over a year and they wouldn’t report on it until Joe Scarborough’s yoga instructor was eaten in front of him.

    LOL. Another classic from Mr. Beast.

  64. @Patrick in SC
    That Texas A&M "racist letter" story stinks to high heaven. ESPN (of course) is swallowing it hook, line, sinker, boat and the entire lake. I suspect it's his (white) wife who is behind it. She knows her husband is on the way out, so she figures making him the victim of a racist letter will grant him immunity, at least for another year.

    A year in which he will be paid 5 million dollars.

  65. @the Supreme Gentleman
    OT (why aren't there iSteve open threads?), but Steve would have a lot of fun with Noah Smith's recent paean to diversity:


    An America defined by white racial nationalism - an American Whitopia - would be an economic and cultural disaster movie. It would be a dysfunctional, crappy civilization, sinking into the fetid morass of its own decay. Some people think that an American Whitopia would be bad for people of color but ultimately good for whites, but this is dead wrong. Although nonwhite Americans would certainly suffer greatly, white American suffering under the dystopia of a Trumpist society would be dire and unending.
     
    http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com/2017/09/an-american-whitopia-would-be-dystopia.html

    The first three countries that come to Noah’s mind for anti-racists to flock to are interesting:

    Turn America into an ethnostate, and the smart white people will bolt for Canada, Australia, Japan, or wherever else isn’t a racist hellhole.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    Ukraine will always be on Noah and his fellow white people's shit list regardless.
    It's basically Mordor, being the world's primary source of Cossacks.
    , @jon


    The first three countries that come to Noah’s mind for anti-racists to flock to are interesting:

     

    Turn America into an ethnostate, and the smart white people will bolt for Canada, Australia, Japan, or wherever else isn’t a racist hellhole.
     
    Hahaha, I noticed that too. And he even used Japan in the previous paragraph as an example of homogenous country that functions well.
  66. @inertial
    3 out of 4 types of "Beckys" are SJW. Not a huge diversity of white women in Michael Harriot's world.

    Incidentally, I'd like to know the real story of that white girl in Michael's study group who "made an A while doing none of the work." Is this what one may call projection?

    How does he know she did none of the work?

  67. @Steve Sailer
    He's the coach who blew a 34 point lead against UCLA?

    Yes. Kevin Sumlin.

  68. @Anon
    Hillary is not Becca. She hated, hated, and hated Obama and swallowed her pride for 8 yrs to finally win the prize. She felt Obama cut in front of the line. 2008 was her perfect yr after 8 yrs of Bush. But Obama stole it from her. She was just being a team player. She blames Trump, she blames Bernie. But privately, she hates Obama the most.

    Also, the list is flawed because Rebecca is seen as having no agency. She is just a good-looker whose value is based on appeal to white males. She is a mere trophy.

    The others, good or bad, have are shown to have agency and make their own decisions. They define themselves. Funny how they all define themselves against whiteness. But then, they are really nothing but cartoony dogs of PC or pop culture. The trick of PC is fooling white women into thinking they are 'liberated' when everything they think and do is controlled by the system of media and academia.

    Where would Rand fit into the schema?

    This is a hagiographic film but still interesting.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pS1JFHzz-c

    https://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/1998/03/ayn-rand-a-sense-of-life/

    Hillary was much healthier in 2008 than in 2016.

    She had some kind of health disaster in late 2012 and never really came all the way back, the way Reagan never really recovered from being shot in 1981.

    • Replies: @AB-

    Reagan never really recovered from being shot in 1981
     
    He got shot 2 months into his first term! The remaining 8+- years he didn't get anything accomplished???

    The leftys are still chewing the rugs over the Reagan Revolution and how he changed the direction of the country....hoping Trump can do the same thing. With all the other news, the lefty media has cut waaay back on the Trump bashing....

    Iran Contra was when things started to go south....and that was middle of '86 or so.

  69. @e
    Jerry Pournelle has died. RIP.

    I’m sorry to hear that. I remember reading his articles in Byte Magazine – back in the early 80′s, then his sci-fi novels like Co-Dominium series, High Justice, etc,

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Fuck yes.

    Pournelle writing about his 33 MHz super-powerful Cheetah rig in Byte... I want to go back!
  70. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    I was a little surprised to see an article in a black magazine about whites, because blacks usually don’t ponder whites that much. However, when I realized it was written by a black man obsessing over white women, it made sense. The guy was probably rejected by the umpteenth leftwing white chick he was chasing and got mad and wrote this article.

  71. @Daniel Chieh
    OT:

    Did you know, the KKK and the Alt-Right wants to kill Maxine Waters!

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-08/maxine-waters-theyre-trying-kill-me

    SHOCK! HORROR!

    No! Nobody better hurt my Maxine! She’s one of my favorite Congress creatures.

    She’s one of the 5 Types of Lakeishas:

    Maxine

    The richest kind of Lakeisha, she is deeply embedded in whatever corrupt public monies exist in her community. She holds an administrative or political job for decades, raking in money from invisible sources, plus the public trough. Her low IQ is a non-issue, as she is surrounded by staff and protected by affirmative action.

    Identifying call: “You’re a racist for asking!”

  72. @The Real David
    This type of vitriol should be encouraged. The more unwelcome white women feel in the modern left wing media landscape the better.

    They hate Jewish comediennes, they hate "Pussy Marchers", they hate long beautiful hair and they hate, hate, hate (Whiskey TM) white women who steal THEIR men (you had it coming Nicole!).

    (you had it coming Nicole!).

    William Pierce certainly thought so. Said it several times.

  73. I posted this the other day for historical context. The ur-Becky is, technically speaking, the silent one, but the girl who is speaking is the stereotype.

  74. Dang, she be Reblacka.

  75. @Steve Sailer
    He's the coach who blew a 34 point lead against UCLA?

    Yes. They had a bad season last year by SEC standards and about the only chance he has at retaining his job is to drum up public sympathy or score a couple of big upsets in conference play, like beating Alabama and LSU. There were calls to fire him immediately after the game, like what happened to Lane Kiffen at USC a few years ago, until this letter was released.

  76. @Emblematic
    They got the 14 words wrong. It's supposed to be:

    We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children.

    I doubt that was unintentional.

    The next thing they get right will be the first. All the thumbs on the scale.

  77. @Buzz Mohawk
    Yes.

    Derbyshire was only writing a reverse of the original, anti-white screed to make a point. Furthermore, contrary to the politically-correct clipping you shared, statistics actually learn way over in the direction of the views implied in what he wrote.

    Black and White are not the same. The data support Derbyshire, who does not "obsess" over blacks.

    Yan, the Chinese Keith Olbermann, has himself a hammer so everything looks like a nail.

    Moral equivalence is a helluva drug.

    • Replies: @Yan Shen
    No no, I'm merely calling a spade a spade. Take for instance someone like Steve Hsu. My guess is he's probably every bit the race realist white Ta-Nehisi Coates is. But from reading Steve Hsu's blog posts, you never really get the impression that this is a person obsessed with race or more specifically obsessed with blacks, nor do you get the impression that this is a person who harbors animus towards specific ethnic groups.

    I get the distinct sense though, from having read only some of the Derb's writings that 1) he's kind of obsessed with viewing everything through the prism of race and 2) he really doesn't like blacks all that much. By comparison when I read someone like Lion of the Blogosphere, I don't really get the vibes for 1) or 2) so much as I see that this is a person generally interested in HBD.

    Just because someone may be narrowly speaking right on the facts of the matter, i.e. blacks commit violent crimes at disproportionate rates, etc etc, doesn't necessarily contradict 1) or 2).

  78. @Buzz Mohawk
    Rebecca is beautiful. White men did indeed build the modern world for her.

    Every brown woman wants be Rebecca.

    “This is for whom they made Forever 21. This is for whom they make Pantene hair conditioner. This is for whom they made America.” and for whom Ted Nugent wrote “Wang Dang Sweet Poontang”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    And for whom Blondie wrote "Pretty Baby".

    They just told Brooke Shields it was about her to be nice.
  79. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Wow, check out the link! The photo of the five Becky’s is amazing: I’d say their looks are pretty much in inverse proportion to their self-debasement. (But I think Taylor Swift beats Tomi Lahren…)

    I’m not familiar with this hotep, but…. he strikes me as a better writer than Mr. Coates.

    He actually seems to have some insights, and strikes me less as a “black racist” than as an honest sort of black race realist with whom you could deal. I don’t hate this guy at all. He’s pretty funny.

  80. @Desiderius
    Yan, the Chinese Keith Olbermann, has himself a hammer so everything looks like a nail.

    Moral equivalence is a helluva drug.

    No no, I’m merely calling a spade a spade. Take for instance someone like Steve Hsu. My guess is he’s probably every bit the race realist white Ta-Nehisi Coates is. But from reading Steve Hsu’s blog posts, you never really get the impression that this is a person obsessed with race or more specifically obsessed with blacks, nor do you get the impression that this is a person who harbors animus towards specific ethnic groups.

    I get the distinct sense though, from having read only some of the Derb’s writings that 1) he’s kind of obsessed with viewing everything through the prism of race and 2) he really doesn’t like blacks all that much. By comparison when I read someone like Lion of the Blogosphere, I don’t really get the vibes for 1) or 2) so much as I see that this is a person generally interested in HBD.

    Just because someone may be narrowly speaking right on the facts of the matter, i.e. blacks commit violent crimes at disproportionate rates, etc etc, doesn’t necessarily contradict 1) or 2).

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    from having read only some of the Derb’s writings
     
    Well, there you go. Derb has a massive archive of his writing spanning decades. It's all on his website.

    Are you sure that your problem with him isn't that he married a Chinese girl?

    , @Daniel Chieh
    Honestly, you should be more focused with the issue that progressivism isn't being stopped by East Asian nations. Look at how ridiculously pozzed Taiwan is. As Jordan Peterson would say: "Clean your room."
    , @Desiderius
    Well, you're wrong. Probably wouldn't hurt to take a little advice from someone in country so to speak. I'll let you enlighten me on things Chinese.

    After all, don't want people thinking you're a Harvard man, now do you?

    Here's a good start:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Obsession
  81. @Barnard
    Maybe the Post Offices down in Texas do it differently, but shouldn't the stamp have a cancellation mark over the top of it? That is, assuming it was actually mailed to the Sumlin's home.

    People of 2017: please tell me how any part of this is ok. And to the sender: did it occur to you that a child may open it?#orelseWHAT? pic.twitter.com/Co1s2Hb94r— charlene sumlin (@courshel) September 7, 2017
     

    “postmark” great observation. this is most likely similar to Nikita Whitlock’s vandalized apartment or LeBron James’s vandalized home. still waiting for ESPN to report how those investigations turned out.

  82. Nostalgia!

    Primary Colors vs Rand: Sense of Life.

    https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/inside-pitches/Content?oid=895842

    I hear Hillary used to be a Randian. She said she outgrew it, but it seems she just turned Toohey.

  83. @Barnard
    Maybe the Post Offices down in Texas do it differently, but shouldn't the stamp have a cancellation mark over the top of it? That is, assuming it was actually mailed to the Sumlin's home.

    People of 2017: please tell me how any part of this is ok. And to the sender: did it occur to you that a child may open it?#orelseWHAT? pic.twitter.com/Co1s2Hb94r— charlene sumlin (@courshel) September 7, 2017
     

    I get stamped mail without post marks all the time.

  84. @the Supreme Gentleman
    OT (why aren't there iSteve open threads?), but Steve would have a lot of fun with Noah Smith's recent paean to diversity:


    An America defined by white racial nationalism - an American Whitopia - would be an economic and cultural disaster movie. It would be a dysfunctional, crappy civilization, sinking into the fetid morass of its own decay. Some people think that an American Whitopia would be bad for people of color but ultimately good for whites, but this is dead wrong. Although nonwhite Americans would certainly suffer greatly, white American suffering under the dystopia of a Trumpist society would be dire and unending.
     
    http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com/2017/09/an-american-whitopia-would-be-dystopia.html

    OT (why aren’t there iSteve open threads?), but Steve would have a lot of fun with Noah Smith’s recent paean to diversity:

    Steve, the Gentlemen is correct. This one could be great fun for the assembled.

    I flipped over and just got started on it and the ways in which Noah is nitwit just come bubbling up. Seriously his analogy–what the whitetopia America will be like is … the Ukraine! And on and on from there, stupidity piled upon stupidity.

    Hey Noah, I’ve got an even better whitetopia prediction than the Ukraine–America from 1924 to 1965. Yep, an absolute hell hole that was!

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Someone made that point in a comment on his blog, and Noah acknowledged that pre-1965 America wasn't terrible, though not as great as it is now. Then he went on about "path dependence". In a nutshell, his argument seems to be: "Sure, >85% European-American USA was great, but if you tried to get back to that now using dystopian methods smart white people would leave and America would turn into Ukraine".

    I suspect Noah reads a lot 1488-type stuff on the web and this is his reaction to it. An interesting tack, for someone he is willing to engage, would be to ask him what demographic balance he thinks would be optimal and why.
  85. @Yan Shen

    Suppose you were a white person with a deep-seated dislike for black people, and you were intent on training your son to feel the same way. Suppose that, day after day, week after week, you instructed him to study the details of every instance of black-on-white crime. Say you advised your son to extrapolate from these incidents the notion that black people are generally dangerous, and that your zeal to present him with disturbing anecdotes along these lines never waned.

    You would be wrong, in just about every possible way: statistically, sociologically, morally. You would be doing your son a gross and damaging disservice. For yourself you would invite, and earn, broad contempt. If your opinions became publicly known, you might well find yourself unwelcome in polite company and your job at risk. Indeed, the National Review contributor John Derbyshire was fired for expressing such sentiments in a blog post three years ago.

    And yet for harboring roughly the same level of suspicion, fear, mistrust, distaste, and unease about whites as Derbyshire does about blacks, the essayist and blogger Ta-Nehisi Coates has found himself crowned America’s leading civic thinker.
     
    Yeah this point was well noted by another columnist online. While the black John Derbyshire gets crowned America's leading civic thinker for obsessing over whites, the white Ta-Nehisi Coates gets called out on for obsessing over blacks.

    I wondered why you referred to Coates as a “black Derb” (or something like that) in a previous post.

  86. Haim Saban, huh? Maybe if Jews gave up their obsession with white Gentile women, other non-whites would too. It’s very unhealthy. But since it’s mostly unhealthy for white Gentile women, I suppose they’ll never give it up. Destruction of all they envy is the whole point. Right?

  87. @Yan Shen

    Suppose you were a white person with a deep-seated dislike for black people, and you were intent on training your son to feel the same way. Suppose that, day after day, week after week, you instructed him to study the details of every instance of black-on-white crime. Say you advised your son to extrapolate from these incidents the notion that black people are generally dangerous, and that your zeal to present him with disturbing anecdotes along these lines never waned.

    You would be wrong, in just about every possible way: statistically, sociologically, morally. You would be doing your son a gross and damaging disservice. For yourself you would invite, and earn, broad contempt. If your opinions became publicly known, you might well find yourself unwelcome in polite company and your job at risk. Indeed, the National Review contributor John Derbyshire was fired for expressing such sentiments in a blog post three years ago.

    And yet for harboring roughly the same level of suspicion, fear, mistrust, distaste, and unease about whites as Derbyshire does about blacks, the essayist and blogger Ta-Nehisi Coates has found himself crowned America’s leading civic thinker.
     
    Yeah this point was well noted by another columnist online. While the black John Derbyshire gets crowned America's leading civic thinker for obsessing over whites, the white Ta-Nehisi Coates gets called out on for obsessing over blacks.

    Your critiques of Derbyshire just reveal that you know little about him. He doesn’t appeal to anecdote. He illustrates with anecdotes, but he appeals to data. If you want to keep making a fool of yourself, keep up this moral equivalency schtick.

    • Agree: EriK, TWS
  88. @Yan Shen
    No no, I'm merely calling a spade a spade. Take for instance someone like Steve Hsu. My guess is he's probably every bit the race realist white Ta-Nehisi Coates is. But from reading Steve Hsu's blog posts, you never really get the impression that this is a person obsessed with race or more specifically obsessed with blacks, nor do you get the impression that this is a person who harbors animus towards specific ethnic groups.

    I get the distinct sense though, from having read only some of the Derb's writings that 1) he's kind of obsessed with viewing everything through the prism of race and 2) he really doesn't like blacks all that much. By comparison when I read someone like Lion of the Blogosphere, I don't really get the vibes for 1) or 2) so much as I see that this is a person generally interested in HBD.

    Just because someone may be narrowly speaking right on the facts of the matter, i.e. blacks commit violent crimes at disproportionate rates, etc etc, doesn't necessarily contradict 1) or 2).

    from having read only some of the Derb’s writings

    Well, there you go. Derb has a massive archive of his writing spanning decades. It’s all on his website.

    Are you sure that your problem with him isn’t that he married a Chinese girl?

    • Replies: @Yan Shen

    Well, there you go. Derb has a massive archive of his writing spanning decades. It’s all on his website
     
    I'll admit that I'm hardly a white Ta-Nehisi Coates scholar, but I'm skimmed enough of his writings to justify my belief in 1) and 2) from above.

    http://www.unz.com/author/john-derbyshire/


    Are you sure that your problem with him isn’t that he married a Chinese girl?
     
    Generally speaking I'm not particularly interested in other people's private lives.

    Just because someone may be narrowly speaking right on the facts of the matter, i.e. blacks commit violent crimes at disproportionate rates, etc etc, doesn’t necessarily contradict 1) or 2).
     
    Please understand this point I made above. It helps to explain why some people have an overall negative impression of a John Derbyshire or a Jared Taylor even though they don't necessarily disagree with them on core factual matters.
  89. Just read the article and honestly it’s 1) pretty funny 2) obviously a bit tongue in cheek but 3) also surprisingly insightful.

  90. @Chrisnonymous

    from having read only some of the Derb’s writings
     
    Well, there you go. Derb has a massive archive of his writing spanning decades. It's all on his website.

    Are you sure that your problem with him isn't that he married a Chinese girl?

    Well, there you go. Derb has a massive archive of his writing spanning decades. It’s all on his website

    I’ll admit that I’m hardly a white Ta-Nehisi Coates scholar, but I’m skimmed enough of his writings to justify my belief in 1) and 2) from above.

    http://www.unz.com/author/john-derbyshire/

    Are you sure that your problem with him isn’t that he married a Chinese girl?

    Generally speaking I’m not particularly interested in other people’s private lives.

    Just because someone may be narrowly speaking right on the facts of the matter, i.e. blacks commit violent crimes at disproportionate rates, etc etc, doesn’t necessarily contradict 1) or 2).

    Please understand this point I made above. It helps to explain why some people have an overall negative impression of a John Derbyshire or a Jared Taylor even though they don’t necessarily disagree with them on core factual matters.

    • Replies: @G Pinfold
    Of course you don't understand Derb. Was your father born fifty miles from Nottingham where I believe JD started out? Are you an Anglo with hereditary pattern balding and an IQ that makes you take up Amateur Mathematics, while engaged in geo-political journalism as a a day job?
    You are out of your depth here. You need to go to the mountain for a few years to think about it; to work hard on your weaknesses; and to to find a way to apologise.
    , @tsotha
    So you problem with him isn't that he's wrong, it's that he doesn't keep quiet about it?
    , @Chrisnonymous
    No. You haven't skimmed enough for (1), or you're suffering confirmation bias, or you're dishonest. If you looked over his ouvre, you'd see somebody who is basically interested in literature and science and became interested in the political ramifications of HBD because the issue was thrust on the country by his/our opponents.

    I don't know if you live in the US, but if you don't, you're probably not aware of how unavoidable race is in everyday life there. If Steve Hsu doesn't talk about race on his blog, it's more likely that it's because he's professionally unable to than that he doesn't think about it.

    As for (2), yes, Derb probably doesn't like blacks. I don't either. But if you don't live in the US, you don't understand what this means. Off the top of my head, except for blues music, I can't think of anything culturally black or culturally associated primary with blacks that I like. And I go beyond most readers of this blog in this regard because I don't like basketball or football or track events or stand-up comedy. And yet! And yet, there are black individuals, but the reality is that I have never--never--worked with a black who wasn't given to periodically throwing out racism "shit tests", which are basically ways of saying, "confirm you love black stuff and condemn the right people or you are a racist!" Ugh! Fuck you! I currently work with 2 blacks. One is a man who's smarter than I am. The other is a woman who I occassionally flirt with and might hook up with given the right circumstances. But I don't really like either of them. They're self-involved, their interests are shallow and boring, and their shit tests are bullying and stifling.

    So, yes, I guess I don't like blacks. I'm still waiting for that black swan, as it were.

    And. So. What?

    And so what if Derb doesn't really like blacks either? Really. So what? Your condemnation of his "racism" is the same bullshit that comes from the left. That is, that avoiding someone is the same as lynching, noticing a pattern is the same as genocide, and using stats and biology to inform public policy is... just, wow, I can't even...

    If you think there is some intrinsic good to multiculturalism beyond de gustibus preferences like expanded cuisines, you should argue that. But only saying that two people who have fundamentally different approaches to public policy are the same because they don't shy away from race when race has important implications is just some sort of irrelevance like social signaling or working out your own psychological situation.
  91. @e
    Jerry Pournelle has died. RIP.

    Nobody wants to live this mortal life on this fallen earth forever. Sad for his wife, though, he was apparently a fun guy to be around, and anybody who had the pleasure to know him will miss him, from what I have heard. I heard he died in his sleep – which, if my medical and spiritual knowledge is correct, means, if you are a good person who loves the Lord, you are sleeping and your heart gives out – there is really no other organ that can go bad while you are sleeping to such an extent and so quickly as to kill you in moments – well, your heart goes out, waking you up – seriously, that sort of thing would wake anybody up – and, God willing, you have time to reflect on the goodness of the Lord and all the gifts you have been given. Well, read the Bible like Jerry did, pray to God like he did. He set a good example in many ways. Forget the Rest in Peace: instead, Rejoice in Eternity.

  92. @Tarrou
    This may have been written by a man, but the "experts" he references are certainly female. This stinks of interracial jealousy. No hetero black man is sitting around thinking up insults for the Kardashians or Taylor Swift. But you know who is? The women who know that to the best men of their race, they are the second option, to be settled for if things don't go well with the "Beckys".

    As an aside, the two demographics most likely to date outside their race are asian women and black men. Unsuprisingly, the two demographics then most opposed to race-mixing are asian men and black women.

    “Unsuprisingly, …”

    Unsurprising to whom?

    As a white male, I find it incredible that Asian women (I’m talking about East Asian women, not whatever someone in England might think of when they hear the word “Asian”) would be the most likely to date outside their race without horrific doses of delusional narcissism (either that or desperation to escape their homelands and co-ethnics).

    I want to know on what evidence derived from what context you have based your claim that Asian women are the most likely to date outside their race. I presume that you have merely parroted some figures reported by a certain dating website used mainly or exclusively by people in the USA.

    • Replies: @Tarrou
    The word "unsurprising" referred to the fact that the racial partners of the most interracially partnered would respond by denigrating interracial relationships.

    You may find it incredible, but I encourage you to do your research.

    A good starting point is the Pew surveys on interracial marriage: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/12/interracial-marriage-who-is-marrying-out/

    Key quote: "Among blacks, men are much more likely than women to marry someone of a different race. Fully a quarter of black men who got married in 2013 married someone who was not black. Only 12% of black women married outside of their race.
    For Asians, the gender pattern goes in the opposite direction: Asian women are much more likely than Asian men to marry someone of a different race. Among newlyweds in 2013, 37% of Asian women married someone who was not Asian, while 16% of Asian men married outside of their race."
  93. @Yan Shen
    No no, I'm merely calling a spade a spade. Take for instance someone like Steve Hsu. My guess is he's probably every bit the race realist white Ta-Nehisi Coates is. But from reading Steve Hsu's blog posts, you never really get the impression that this is a person obsessed with race or more specifically obsessed with blacks, nor do you get the impression that this is a person who harbors animus towards specific ethnic groups.

    I get the distinct sense though, from having read only some of the Derb's writings that 1) he's kind of obsessed with viewing everything through the prism of race and 2) he really doesn't like blacks all that much. By comparison when I read someone like Lion of the Blogosphere, I don't really get the vibes for 1) or 2) so much as I see that this is a person generally interested in HBD.

    Just because someone may be narrowly speaking right on the facts of the matter, i.e. blacks commit violent crimes at disproportionate rates, etc etc, doesn't necessarily contradict 1) or 2).

    Honestly, you should be more focused with the issue that progressivism isn’t being stopped by East Asian nations. Look at how ridiculously pozzed Taiwan is. As Jordan Peterson would say: “Clean your room.”

  94. @JW Bell
    The article is about the author's ex girlfriends. He's still mad.

    This reeks of sexual jealousy, not bitterness. He’s channeling black women, who are at the bottom of the racio-sexual hierarchy. They despise white women, who are at the top. (Some say Asians, but that’s a fad. I say by and large they lack requisite secondary sexual characteristics.)

    • Agree: Nico
  95. Can any white men here imagine writing the phrase “white penis” and having it published in a sorta mainstream–for its race–magazine? I would feel weird about it in a magazine titled White Power, even.

    Unless it was a satirical. Please tell me this is a joke.

    • Replies: @Thea
    It speaks volumes as to how grotesquely debased American, particularly black American but it seeps in everywhere, culture currently is. The conservatives conserved nothing of value.

    It's like the house was on fire so they saved some scraps of old carpet.
  96. @415 reasons
    What do woke white feminists reading this think? "Man these people hate me no matter what I say or do." Or do they double down to an ever greater level of obsequiousness (and zany self-hatred) that will prove that they aren't a fake ally like that white supremacist Hillary Clinton?

    I'm guessing the latter.

    “Or do they double down…”

    SJWs always double down. Somebody had that as a rule in some book.

    “…to an ever greater level of obsequiousness?”

    That’s the Diversity Pokemon game. Blacks gots more points n sheet, y’all!

  97. @The Last Real Calvinist
    The Root is pretty slow reporting on the 'Becky' phenomenon. The term is already deeply embedded in the Woke vernacular. It's even in ordinary work-a-day use in deepest flyover country, e.g. on the campus of the University of Nebraska: LINK.

    Though this guy claims it evolved from BJ-speak, I always assumed the “Becky” Thing came from Sir Mix-a-Lot’s magnum opus, Baby Got Back. (“Oh, my God, Becky…”) So it’s been in the white mainstream in at least one form for a while.

  98. @Anon
    Hillary is not Becca. She hated, hated, and hated Obama and swallowed her pride for 8 yrs to finally win the prize. She felt Obama cut in front of the line. 2008 was her perfect yr after 8 yrs of Bush. But Obama stole it from her. She was just being a team player. She blames Trump, she blames Bernie. But privately, she hates Obama the most.

    Also, the list is flawed because Rebecca is seen as having no agency. She is just a good-looker whose value is based on appeal to white males. She is a mere trophy.

    The others, good or bad, have are shown to have agency and make their own decisions. They define themselves. Funny how they all define themselves against whiteness. But then, they are really nothing but cartoony dogs of PC or pop culture. The trick of PC is fooling white women into thinking they are 'liberated' when everything they think and do is controlled by the system of media and academia.

    Where would Rand fit into the schema?

    This is a hagiographic film but still interesting.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pS1JFHzz-c

    https://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/1998/03/ayn-rand-a-sense-of-life/

    Alyssa Rosenbaum fits in nowhere because she was not white

  99. @It's All Ball Bearings
    "This is for whom they made Forever 21. This is for whom they make Pantene hair conditioner. This is for whom they made America." and for whom Ted Nugent wrote "Wang Dang Sweet Poontang"

    And for whom Blondie wrote “Pretty Baby”.

    They just told Brooke Shields it was about her to be nice.

  100. I was disappointed.
    I would have associated “Rebecca” with “Vanity Fair”, and “Reba” with the admirable Reba McEntire. But the author probably doesn’t know either the one or the other.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    Englishman of a certain age here, therefore Daphne du Maurier sprang unbidden.
    I think a remake of the film version with Taylor Swift as Mrs Danvers is in order.
  101. I’m disappointed.
    I would have associated “Rebecca” with “Vanity Fair”, and “Reba” with the admirable Reba McEntire. But the author probably doesn’t know either the one or the other.

  102. @CCZ
    "Famous Beckeishas: Anyone with the last name “Kardashian”;"

    Wonder if this changes Kim Kardashian's category?

    Leave Kim Kardashian West’s Surrogate Alone (VOGUE September 8, 2017)

    No sooner did news break that Kim and Kanye were expecting their 3rd child via surrogate than TMZ began to pounce on the private life of said surrogate. We were informed that the woman carrying the Wests’ baby is a “fit, married mom in her 20s,” that both she and her husband are African-American and “their marriage is solid,” and, just in case anyone was wondering, she’s a college graduate and a registered Democrat.

    Of course, the news that the Wests are having another child (aka America’s third royal baby) would be breathlessly covered news.... But a primer on the Wests’ surrogate is unnecessary and extreme....

    TMZ’s report also hits an awkward note—and not just due to its dense comment that because the surrogate is a college graduate, “maybe the kid will pick up some of that through osmosis.”
     
    “...through osmosis,” guess they can't use the word “genes.”

    There is certainly a maternal effect on gene expression. The surrogate has a profound influence on the child in ways not fully appreciated or understood.

    Maternal Factors Are Associated with the Expression of Placental …

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4682815/

  103. @Buzz Mohawk
    If anyone were to do a Derbyshire and publish a reverse version of this anti-White piece of race-hate, say "The 5 Types of Beckesha," he would no doubt be fired, tarred and feathered. He would be Derbed.

    It bears repeating: The only form of race-hatred allowed is anti-White hatred. This hatred is not only allowed but promulgated by the likes of Haim Saban. This is simply a statement of fact supported by evidence like this article.

    If anyone were to do a Derbyshire and publish a reverse version of this anti-White piece of race-hate, say “The 5 Types of Beckesha,” he would no doubt be fired, tarred and feathered.

    In Britain today, he would probably face prosecution if reported to the police.

  104. @Rod1963
    I'm sorry to hear that. I remember reading his articles in Byte Magazine - back in the early 80's, then his sci-fi novels like Co-Dominium series, High Justice, etc,

    Fuck yes.

    Pournelle writing about his 33 MHz super-powerful Cheetah rig in Byte… I want to go back!

  105. @Yan Shen
    Look man, I'm not saying I agree with the PC police who ousted white Ta-Nehisi Coates from the National Review. I'm not even saying that factually speaking Mr. Derbyshire is wrong per se.

    I do disagree that his version of the talk should be construed as merely trying to make a point by turning the anti-white animus of the black John Derbyshire on itself. I think white Ta-Nehisi Coates spoke from a place of honesty in his Talk in that the obsession and animus that he seems to have against African Americans in that article is often reflected in a number of his other writings as well. It wasn't exactly an isolated incident, but rather fit a larger pattern of the kinds of topics that interest him in general.

    White Ta-Nehisi Coates may have only written 1 article explicitly about being white, as he argued in his own self defense, but he sure seems to write a lot about race, hence the equivalency to black John Derbyshire!

    Michael Harriot is a staff writer at The Root, host of “The Black One” podcast and editor-in-chief of the daily digital magazine NegusWhoRead.

    http://neguswhoread.com/ : Smart Bold Brilliant Black

    That was a unfortunate choice. Negus Whore Ad is not something I want to pass my firewall.

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    Negus was a popular 18th-century drink containing tawny port, lemon, and sugar. It was named after Col. Francis Negus.
  106. The white tears on display here are delicious!

    Face it you guys lose know one likes you

    This article points out white girls look good but are otherwise worthless due to their shitty fathers

    The only way they are redeemed is by forming relationships with Men of Color

    • Replies: @black sea

    Face it you guys lose know one likes you
     
    You are extrapolating from the fact that you are a) white, and b) "know [sic] one likes you."

    And FWIW, forming a relationship with an inflatable sex partner of any hue will not redeem you.
    , @Eric Novak
    Where are you from, Tiny Duck? What ESL nation produces English speakers who mistake "know" for "no"?
    , @duncsbaby
    "The white tears on display here are delicious!

    Face it you guys lose know one likes you"

    - Know one nose the trouble we no.
  107. @Yan Shen
    No no, I'm merely calling a spade a spade. Take for instance someone like Steve Hsu. My guess is he's probably every bit the race realist white Ta-Nehisi Coates is. But from reading Steve Hsu's blog posts, you never really get the impression that this is a person obsessed with race or more specifically obsessed with blacks, nor do you get the impression that this is a person who harbors animus towards specific ethnic groups.

    I get the distinct sense though, from having read only some of the Derb's writings that 1) he's kind of obsessed with viewing everything through the prism of race and 2) he really doesn't like blacks all that much. By comparison when I read someone like Lion of the Blogosphere, I don't really get the vibes for 1) or 2) so much as I see that this is a person generally interested in HBD.

    Just because someone may be narrowly speaking right on the facts of the matter, i.e. blacks commit violent crimes at disproportionate rates, etc etc, doesn't necessarily contradict 1) or 2).

    Well, you’re wrong. Probably wouldn’t hurt to take a little advice from someone in country so to speak. I’ll let you enlighten me on things Chinese.

    After all, don’t want people thinking you’re a Harvard man, now do you?

    Here’s a good start:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Obsession

    • Replies: @Yan Shen
    Already knew about that book and Mr. Derbyshire's "background" in math. Doesn't really detract from what I said above.

    I'm obviously not comparing white Ta Nehisi Coates to Bobby Fischer here in terms of talent, but the latter also had some interesting obsessions outside of chess, for instance.

    I think most of you are missing the point. Derb doesn't necessarily get a free pass from rational judgement just because of some of his past achievements or because narrowly speaking he's factually correct about blacks committing violent crimes at disproportionate rates, etc. Ask yourself why someone might have a different perception of say Steve Hsu compared to John Derbyshire and I think you'll start putting yourself on the path towards understanding where I'm coming from here!
  108. @Desiderius
    Well, you're wrong. Probably wouldn't hurt to take a little advice from someone in country so to speak. I'll let you enlighten me on things Chinese.

    After all, don't want people thinking you're a Harvard man, now do you?

    Here's a good start:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Obsession

    Already knew about that book and Mr. Derbyshire’s “background” in math. Doesn’t really detract from what I said above.

    I’m obviously not comparing white Ta Nehisi Coates to Bobby Fischer here in terms of talent, but the latter also had some interesting obsessions outside of chess, for instance.

    I think most of you are missing the point. Derb doesn’t necessarily get a free pass from rational judgement just because of some of his past achievements or because narrowly speaking he’s factually correct about blacks committing violent crimes at disproportionate rates, etc. Ask yourself why someone might have a different perception of say Steve Hsu compared to John Derbyshire and I think you’ll start putting yourself on the path towards understanding where I’m coming from here!

    • Replies: @EriK

    I think most of you are missing the point.
     
    Ever think that maybe your "point" isn't all that compelling?
    , @Desiderius

    understanding where I’m coming from here!
     
    Not that interesting.

    Sorry.
  109. This is for whom they made America.

    But I thought American was an expression of patriarchal oppression? I thought it wasn’t made for only for men.

    I also like the ‘only certain parts of Ireland and Scotland’, as if it’s magic soil… Americans never seemed to understand ethnic and sectarian conflict in Ireland but with the internet today there is no excuse.

  110. She voted for Barack Obama.

    So did all those people in Pennsylvania and Michigan who gave Trump the presidency…

  111. @the Supreme Gentleman
    OT (why aren't there iSteve open threads?), but Steve would have a lot of fun with Noah Smith's recent paean to diversity:


    An America defined by white racial nationalism - an American Whitopia - would be an economic and cultural disaster movie. It would be a dysfunctional, crappy civilization, sinking into the fetid morass of its own decay. Some people think that an American Whitopia would be bad for people of color but ultimately good for whites, but this is dead wrong. Although nonwhite Americans would certainly suffer greatly, white American suffering under the dystopia of a Trumpist society would be dire and unending.
     
    http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com/2017/09/an-american-whitopia-would-be-dystopia.html

    .. a dysfunctional, crappy civilization, sinking into the fetid morass of its own decay.

    Oh no, he must have been to Denmark. Europe’s secret shame is out.

  112. @Tiny Duck
    The white tears on display here are delicious!

    Face it you guys lose know one likes you

    This article points out white girls look good but are otherwise worthless due to their shitty fathers

    The only way they are redeemed is by forming relationships with Men of Color

    Face it you guys lose know one likes you

    You are extrapolating from the fact that you are a) white, and b) “know [sic] one likes you.”

    And FWIW, forming a relationship with an inflatable sex partner of any hue will not redeem you.

  113. @Dave Pinsen
    The first three countries that come to Noah's mind for anti-racists to flock to are interesting:

    Turn America into an ethnostate, and the smart white people will bolt for Canada, Australia, Japan, or wherever else isn't a racist hellhole.
     

    Ukraine will always be on Noah and his fellow white people’s shit list regardless.
    It’s basically Mordor, being the world’s primary source of Cossacks.

    • Replies: @Sean c
    The cossacks removed a lot of the Jewish management of the serfs when they revolted in the Polish Lithuanian Common Wealth. Much of the killing in eastern europe during the 20th century was payback for that revolt.
  114. @Yan Shen

    Well, there you go. Derb has a massive archive of his writing spanning decades. It’s all on his website
     
    I'll admit that I'm hardly a white Ta-Nehisi Coates scholar, but I'm skimmed enough of his writings to justify my belief in 1) and 2) from above.

    http://www.unz.com/author/john-derbyshire/


    Are you sure that your problem with him isn’t that he married a Chinese girl?
     
    Generally speaking I'm not particularly interested in other people's private lives.

    Just because someone may be narrowly speaking right on the facts of the matter, i.e. blacks commit violent crimes at disproportionate rates, etc etc, doesn’t necessarily contradict 1) or 2).
     
    Please understand this point I made above. It helps to explain why some people have an overall negative impression of a John Derbyshire or a Jared Taylor even though they don't necessarily disagree with them on core factual matters.

    Of course you don’t understand Derb. Was your father born fifty miles from Nottingham where I believe JD started out? Are you an Anglo with hereditary pattern balding and an IQ that makes you take up Amateur Mathematics, while engaged in geo-political journalism as a a day job?
    You are out of your depth here. You need to go to the mountain for a few years to think about it; to work hard on your weaknesses; and to to find a way to apologise.

  115. @Stogumber
    I was disappointed.
    I would have associated "Rebecca" with "Vanity Fair", and "Reba" with the admirable Reba McEntire. But the author probably doesn't know either the one or the other.

    Englishman of a certain age here, therefore Daphne du Maurier sprang unbidden.
    I think a remake of the film version with Taylor Swift as Mrs Danvers is in order.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    I just watched the latest remake of Daphne du Maurier's My Cousin Rachel starring Rachel Weisz (Mrs. James Bond). It was well done but I had no idea what happened at the end.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Cousin_Rachel_(2017_film)
  116. @Anonymous
    This Becky says you've guessed right: https://twitter.com/beccakatharine/status/900034854754033664

    She alsotweeted “Per my last retweet, please send why capitalism is terrible and what we can do about it reading suggestions.”

    Would anyone suggest Mien kampf?

  117. @üeljang
    "Unsuprisingly, ..."

    Unsurprising to whom?

    As a white male, I find it incredible that Asian women (I'm talking about East Asian women, not whatever someone in England might think of when they hear the word "Asian") would be the most likely to date outside their race without horrific doses of delusional narcissism (either that or desperation to escape their homelands and co-ethnics).

    I want to know on what evidence derived from what context you have based your claim that Asian women are the most likely to date outside their race. I presume that you have merely parroted some figures reported by a certain dating website used mainly or exclusively by people in the USA.

    The word “unsurprising” referred to the fact that the racial partners of the most interracially partnered would respond by denigrating interracial relationships.

    You may find it incredible, but I encourage you to do your research.

    A good starting point is the Pew surveys on interracial marriage: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/12/interracial-marriage-who-is-marrying-out/

    Key quote: “Among blacks, men are much more likely than women to marry someone of a different race. Fully a quarter of black men who got married in 2013 married someone who was not black. Only 12% of black women married outside of their race.
    For Asians, the gender pattern goes in the opposite direction: Asian women are much more likely than Asian men to marry someone of a different race. Among newlyweds in 2013, 37% of Asian women married someone who was not Asian, while 16% of Asian men married outside of their race.”

    • Replies: @üeljang
    I have already seen that same survey quoted (and responded to it) elsewhere on unz.com, a fact about which I think you are probably aware despite your dissembling.

    I am contesting the "unsurprisingness" of a high rate of interracial marriage for (East) Asian women because the rate of (naturally) good-looking women here is much lower than where I come from. A large percentage of them look like boys dressed up in drag: large faces with small features and excessive makeup.

    Therefore, I presume that there must be several factors fueling this high rate of intermarriage on the part of Asian women:

    1. Percentages of the total population (Those results come from a survey of married couples in the United States. As shown in the first bar graph on the site to which you have linked, there is a very strong anticorrelation between the size of a racial group as a percentage of the total US population and that racial group's rate of interracial marriage. If Asians grew to comprise a greater percentage of the total US population, their rate of interracial marriage would surely decrease. Of course, this factor does not explain the excess of interracial marriage on the part of Asian women in the US relative to interracial marriage on the part of Asian men in the US. However, note that Asian men's rate of interracial marriage in the US is actually more than twice the rate of interracial marriage on the part of White people in the US.)
    2. A desire on the part of the women to disassociate themselves from their homelands. (Since the economies and governments of most East Asian countries actually function quite well these days, such a desire might be more likely founded on an intense disgust for their co-ethnics, especially male ones. Of course, for Southeast Asians, there is still a considerable possibility that women might be interested in marrying a non-Asian American for economic reasons, even to the point of migrating to the US. Personally, I suspect that the strongest motivation for many such Asian women is not disassociating themselves from their homeland or male co-ethnics so much as disassociating their offspring from the Mongoloid race as a whole.)
    3. Desperation on the part of non-Asian men in the US. (It takes two to tango, and I have noticed a trend of nerdy, unattractive White men dating plain-looking or unattractive Asian women. I suspect a large part of this trend is motivated by certain stereotypes that are current in American mass media and pop culture regarding attitudes of Asian women toward marriage and family.)
    4. Mental illness on the part of Asians. (The opinions voiced by many of my Asian friends and acquaintances reveal a very warped sense of physical attractiveness. They, both men and women, tend to make more verbal fuss about the physical appearance of males than they do about the physical appearance of females. At least ostensibly, they consider gynomorphic characteristics on men to be attractive. They are not so explicit about preferring andromorphic characteristics on women, but the choices that the men make when given a choice suggest that they either don't care about the physical appearance of women or they really do prefer women who have andromorphic characteristics, first among which must be counted a large facial frame bearing facial features that are small in proportion to the frame. Personally, I think the women are bullshitting, which would definitely not be a first for Asians, and that many of the men have some serious mental problems.)

  118. @Buzz Mohawk
    I do like those little chocolate Golda Cohens around Christmastime, though.

    *groan*

  119. @Barnard
    Maybe the Post Offices down in Texas do it differently, but shouldn't the stamp have a cancellation mark over the top of it? That is, assuming it was actually mailed to the Sumlin's home.

    People of 2017: please tell me how any part of this is ok. And to the sender: did it occur to you that a child may open it?#orelseWHAT? pic.twitter.com/Co1s2Hb94r— charlene sumlin (@courshel) September 7, 2017
     

    I like the response to claims that the recursive N’s indicate the author is female and over 30

    “You are condemning a racist note with sexist and ageist talk? WTF?”

  120. @guest
    Can any white men here imagine writing the phrase "white penis" and having it published in a sorta mainstream--for its race--magazine? I would feel weird about it in a magazine titled White Power, even.

    Unless it was a satirical. Please tell me this is a joke.

    It speaks volumes as to how grotesquely debased American, particularly black American but it seeps in everywhere, culture currently is. The conservatives conserved nothing of value.

    It’s like the house was on fire so they saved some scraps of old carpet.

  121. Interestingly, the least likely interracial pairing, that of black women and white men, has the smallest rate of divorce, 44% less than a same-race pairing. This is the reverse of what we find with black men and white women, who have half again the likelihood of ending in divorce as same-race pairings.

    I’m not sure exactly how to model that. Could be selection bias, in that only the most committed black females overcome that social pressure to cross racial lines. Could be to do with SMV, black males tend to pair off with some truly ugly white women, and all the black women I’ve seen with white men are above average. Could be the differential relationship expectations of each group. Most likely, it’s all of that along with a bunch of stuff I haven’t thought of yet. Interesting nonetheless.

    • Replies: @guest
    Simplest explanation, since black women have to overcome the severe handicap of being black women, who are lowest on the racio-sexual hierarchy, "only the best survive."
  122. @Bugg
    It's all about them. There are millions of white people,and half of them women, who do not care nor think about African-Americans any more than needed.

    They also forgot the subset in their "Reba" Venn diagram who suddenly are way less woke when their kids might one less fine first day of school find themselves in a classroom filled with underclass project-dwelling diversity.

    “It’s all about them. There are millions of white people,and half of them women, who do not care nor think about African-Americans any more than needed. ”

    I don’t think they get this. The whole thing sounds like a pretty lame attempt at being witty.

    As an aside I’ve seen more references to 14 words and whatnot (and whatever is up with Hitler and 7) from the left than I’ve ever encountered in real life or checking out this site.

    Admittedly I don’t look at Stormfront or any site like that. But exactly who is running around talking about 14 words and the other stuff? Frankly it sounds more like the kind of thing Farrakhan did with his “numbers” speech at the million man march. I.E. more a black thing than white.

    I have never met anyone into Nazi …. things like paraphernalia. I have met people who have an attachment to the Confederacy. My take is the Root people see what they want to see.

    Actually we’ve talked about it before on this site here and there, but you see more Nazi symbols and whatnot with biker gear and prison tatts. And I’m not real sure any of those guys have the slightest idea who Goebbels was or what’s in Mein Kampf.

  123. My favorite iSteveism, “Different types of people have very different understandings about the basis of social order. That’s what different countries are for.”

    It just becomes more blatantly obvious every day.

  124. Famous Rebas: Amy Schumer; Lena Dunham; Jezebel readers.

    Actually, no. Reba is a famous country singer who starred in her own sitcom.

  125. @Expletive Deleted
    Ukraine will always be on Noah and his fellow white people's shit list regardless.
    It's basically Mordor, being the world's primary source of Cossacks.

    The cossacks removed a lot of the Jewish management of the serfs when they revolted in the Polish Lithuanian Common Wealth. Much of the killing in eastern europe during the 20th century was payback for that revolt.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Much of the killing in eastern europe during the 20th century was payback for that revolt.

    Source?
  126. @Yan Shen
    Look man, I'm not saying I agree with the PC police who ousted white Ta-Nehisi Coates from the National Review. I'm not even saying that factually speaking Mr. Derbyshire is wrong per se.

    I do disagree that his version of the talk should be construed as merely trying to make a point by turning the anti-white animus of the black John Derbyshire on itself. I think white Ta-Nehisi Coates spoke from a place of honesty in his Talk in that the obsession and animus that he seems to have against African Americans in that article is often reflected in a number of his other writings as well. It wasn't exactly an isolated incident, but rather fit a larger pattern of the kinds of topics that interest him in general.

    White Ta-Nehisi Coates may have only written 1 article explicitly about being white, as he argued in his own self defense, but he sure seems to write a lot about race, hence the equivalency to black John Derbyshire!

    I think white Ta-Nehisi Coates spoke from a place of honesty in his Talk in that the obsession and animus that he seems to have against African Americans in that article is often reflected in a number of his other writings as well. It wasn’t exactly an isolated incident, but rather fit a larger pattern of the kinds of topics that interest him in general.

    A bit unfair in that once you’ve waded into the pool of racial counterpoint, you are forevermore tarnished, so there is some compulsion to run with it and become the Voice on those matters.

    You admit that Derbyshire is honest in his assessments, which speaks volumes about today’s discourse.

  127. @Barnard
    It is most likely a hoax, either by the Sumlins or someone sympathetic to them, but the media is already running hard with it. Texas A&M has already issued a statement condemning it and the county sheriff has opened an investigation. I'm sure it will get solved around the same time the Minneapolis mosque "bombing" is solved.

    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/college-football-texas-am-kevin-sumlin-racist-letter

    Yes even if it turns out to be from a black coed the media will use it to further their agenda.

  128. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Tropes or Memes include or exclude subjects. Becky must be becoming acceptable if The Root writes articles about it. The New York Times will come on board soon.

    Look at TV Tropes or Memes lists and see who is a subject.

    Ask who is missing. The answers will not surprise you.

  129. A good strategy for alt-right types to get greater acceptance in society is to take articles like this one and turn them around. “There are 5 Types of Taniquas”, for example. When folks scream racism just point out you lifted the idea from some SJW publication. Most people won’t see a problem then.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Because flipping Is White Genocide Right? didn't turn into a million idiots screaming "Richard Spencer advocates black genocide".
  130. @Daniel Chieh
    OT:

    Did you know, the KKK and the Alt-Right wants to kill Maxine Waters!

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-08/maxine-waters-theyre-trying-kill-me

    SHOCK! HORROR!

    Why would anyone want to kill Crazy Maxine? First of all she’s an embarrassment to her fellow travelers, but beyond that she’s about to crumble to dust anyway.

  131. @Yan Shen

    Well, there you go. Derb has a massive archive of his writing spanning decades. It’s all on his website
     
    I'll admit that I'm hardly a white Ta-Nehisi Coates scholar, but I'm skimmed enough of his writings to justify my belief in 1) and 2) from above.

    http://www.unz.com/author/john-derbyshire/


    Are you sure that your problem with him isn’t that he married a Chinese girl?
     
    Generally speaking I'm not particularly interested in other people's private lives.

    Just because someone may be narrowly speaking right on the facts of the matter, i.e. blacks commit violent crimes at disproportionate rates, etc etc, doesn’t necessarily contradict 1) or 2).
     
    Please understand this point I made above. It helps to explain why some people have an overall negative impression of a John Derbyshire or a Jared Taylor even though they don't necessarily disagree with them on core factual matters.

    So you problem with him isn’t that he’s wrong, it’s that he doesn’t keep quiet about it?

  132. @AM
    I'm sure Cosmo will becoming out with their 5 types of Shanice any day now.

    ……and yet the black dudes fall over themselves trying to get them so they can dump their own women and any kids they have on the beta male taxpayer…

  133. @Yan Shen
    Look man, I'm not saying I agree with the PC police who ousted white Ta-Nehisi Coates from the National Review. I'm not even saying that factually speaking Mr. Derbyshire is wrong per se.

    I do disagree that his version of the talk should be construed as merely trying to make a point by turning the anti-white animus of the black John Derbyshire on itself. I think white Ta-Nehisi Coates spoke from a place of honesty in his Talk in that the obsession and animus that he seems to have against African Americans in that article is often reflected in a number of his other writings as well. It wasn't exactly an isolated incident, but rather fit a larger pattern of the kinds of topics that interest him in general.

    White Ta-Nehisi Coates may have only written 1 article explicitly about being white, as he argued in his own self defense, but he sure seems to write a lot about race, hence the equivalency to black John Derbyshire!

    Referring to John Derbyshire as the “white Ta-Nehisi Coates” makes you look like a total fool. Mr. Derbyshire is a very intelligent man and an excellent writer. You may not agree with his opinions, but I challenge you to refute them with facts, not ridiculous name calling.

    Ta-Nehisi Coats, on the other hand, is an affirmative action hack who uses big words to recycle the same “all blacks are victims of nasty whites” garbage.

  134. Jesus H. Christ, Steve! Where do you find this codswallop?

  135. @Yan Shen
    Look man, I'm not saying I agree with the PC police who ousted white Ta-Nehisi Coates from the National Review. I'm not even saying that factually speaking Mr. Derbyshire is wrong per se.

    I do disagree that his version of the talk should be construed as merely trying to make a point by turning the anti-white animus of the black John Derbyshire on itself. I think white Ta-Nehisi Coates spoke from a place of honesty in his Talk in that the obsession and animus that he seems to have against African Americans in that article is often reflected in a number of his other writings as well. It wasn't exactly an isolated incident, but rather fit a larger pattern of the kinds of topics that interest him in general.

    White Ta-Nehisi Coates may have only written 1 article explicitly about being white, as he argued in his own self defense, but he sure seems to write a lot about race, hence the equivalency to black John Derbyshire!

    John Derbyshire is highly intelligent and takes an argument where it logically leads. Please cite 1 instance where JD said something that was not factual. TC, on the other hand, is just another 108 IQ race hustler, like our former president

  136. @Yan Shen

    Well, there you go. Derb has a massive archive of his writing spanning decades. It’s all on his website
     
    I'll admit that I'm hardly a white Ta-Nehisi Coates scholar, but I'm skimmed enough of his writings to justify my belief in 1) and 2) from above.

    http://www.unz.com/author/john-derbyshire/


    Are you sure that your problem with him isn’t that he married a Chinese girl?
     
    Generally speaking I'm not particularly interested in other people's private lives.

    Just because someone may be narrowly speaking right on the facts of the matter, i.e. blacks commit violent crimes at disproportionate rates, etc etc, doesn’t necessarily contradict 1) or 2).
     
    Please understand this point I made above. It helps to explain why some people have an overall negative impression of a John Derbyshire or a Jared Taylor even though they don't necessarily disagree with them on core factual matters.

    No. You haven’t skimmed enough for (1), or you’re suffering confirmation bias, or you’re dishonest. If you looked over his ouvre, you’d see somebody who is basically interested in literature and science and became interested in the political ramifications of HBD because the issue was thrust on the country by his/our opponents.

    I don’t know if you live in the US, but if you don’t, you’re probably not aware of how unavoidable race is in everyday life there. If Steve Hsu doesn’t talk about race on his blog, it’s more likely that it’s because he’s professionally unable to than that he doesn’t think about it.

    As for (2), yes, Derb probably doesn’t like blacks. I don’t either. But if you don’t live in the US, you don’t understand what this means. Off the top of my head, except for blues music, I can’t think of anything culturally black or culturally associated primary with blacks that I like. And I go beyond most readers of this blog in this regard because I don’t like basketball or football or track events or stand-up comedy. And yet! And yet, there are black individuals, but the reality is that I have never–never–worked with a black who wasn’t given to periodically throwing out racism “shit tests”, which are basically ways of saying, “confirm you love black stuff and condemn the right people or you are a racist!” Ugh! Fuck you! I currently work with 2 blacks. One is a man who’s smarter than I am. The other is a woman who I occassionally flirt with and might hook up with given the right circumstances. But I don’t really like either of them. They’re self-involved, their interests are shallow and boring, and their shit tests are bullying and stifling.

    So, yes, I guess I don’t like blacks. I’m still waiting for that black swan, as it were.

    And. So. What?

    And so what if Derb doesn’t really like blacks either? Really. So what? Your condemnation of his “racism” is the same bullshit that comes from the left. That is, that avoiding someone is the same as lynching, noticing a pattern is the same as genocide, and using stats and biology to inform public policy is… just, wow, I can’t even…

    If you think there is some intrinsic good to multiculturalism beyond de gustibus preferences like expanded cuisines, you should argue that. But only saying that two people who have fundamentally different approaches to public policy are the same because they don’t shy away from race when race has important implications is just some sort of irrelevance like social signaling or working out your own psychological situation.

  137. He forgot one hallmark of the Becckeisha: she’s fat.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    Bingo!
  138. @Yan Shen
    Already knew about that book and Mr. Derbyshire's "background" in math. Doesn't really detract from what I said above.

    I'm obviously not comparing white Ta Nehisi Coates to Bobby Fischer here in terms of talent, but the latter also had some interesting obsessions outside of chess, for instance.

    I think most of you are missing the point. Derb doesn't necessarily get a free pass from rational judgement just because of some of his past achievements or because narrowly speaking he's factually correct about blacks committing violent crimes at disproportionate rates, etc. Ask yourself why someone might have a different perception of say Steve Hsu compared to John Derbyshire and I think you'll start putting yourself on the path towards understanding where I'm coming from here!

    I think most of you are missing the point.

    Ever think that maybe your “point” isn’t all that compelling?

  139. @Ed
    A good strategy for alt-right types to get greater acceptance in society is to take articles like this one and turn them around. "There are 5 Types of Taniquas", for example. When folks scream racism just point out you lifted the idea from some SJW publication. Most people won't see a problem then.

    Because flipping Is White Genocide Right? didn’t turn into a million idiots screaming “Richard Spencer advocates black genocide”.

  140. When “alt-righters” recite the 14 words, “Because the beauty of the white Aryan woman must not perish from the earth,” this is about whom they are talking. This is for whom they made Forever 21.

    Forever 21 (Clothing company) CEO: Do Won Chang (Apr 21, 1984–present)

  141. @Tarrou
    This may have been written by a man, but the "experts" he references are certainly female. This stinks of interracial jealousy. No hetero black man is sitting around thinking up insults for the Kardashians or Taylor Swift. But you know who is? The women who know that to the best men of their race, they are the second option, to be settled for if things don't go well with the "Beckys".

    As an aside, the two demographics most likely to date outside their race are asian women and black men. Unsuprisingly, the two demographics then most opposed to race-mixing are asian men and black women.

    I’m guessing the writer is a blm feminist.
    The kind of black male who has fully internalized the point of view of the black tranzlesbo self-apppointed moral leaders. I imagine that ta-nehesi coates feels more or less the same about white women.

  142. @415 reasons
    What do woke white feminists reading this think? "Man these people hate me no matter what I say or do." Or do they double down to an ever greater level of obsequiousness (and zany self-hatred) that will prove that they aren't a fake ally like that white supremacist Hillary Clinton?

    I'm guessing the latter.

    A lot of them double down. Every time the intersectionals come up with a really outrageous demand, we think “finally the white allies will wake up now!”. They often don’t.

    Remember during the Bernie campaign when the 2 BLM “emotional laborers” shut down his speech to complain about white people ? Did that shock the white allies into stopping being doormats ? Not sure.

    BLM has been complaining for a couple of years now about white allies taking too much space and not letting themselves be led by the nose. They loudly complained about this. One would have thought that this would have led to white allies rethinking their commitment. Not necessarily. During the evergreen events we saw that the younger white allies are gladly playing the role of hired help. They DO defer to “black students”, more and more. The very idea of standing up for themselves seems repulsive to them.

  143. @Buzz Mohawk
    If anyone were to do a Derbyshire and publish a reverse version of this anti-White piece of race-hate, say "The 5 Types of Beckesha," he would no doubt be fired, tarred and feathered. He would be Derbed.

    It bears repeating: The only form of race-hatred allowed is anti-White hatred. This hatred is not only allowed but promulgated by the likes of Haim Saban. This is simply a statement of fact supported by evidence like this article.

    When it comes to hate, there seems to be some sort of universal conservation principle — Conservation of Hate. So the more carefully whites have to be tippy-toeing around what they can say about blacks, the more aggressive blacks get to be about what they say about whites.

    And much as you’d like to blame “the likes of Haim Saban”, Minnesota Lutherans and New England Episcopalians are way worse.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    And much as you’d like to blame “the likes of Haim Saban”, Minnesota Lutherans and New England Episcopalians are way worse.
     
    You're right, but Minnesota Lutherans and New England Episcopalians don't own very many media outlets.

    Hey, your comments here are valuable. Don't get discouraged. Jews like to argue, right? I think you said it yourself here. Stick around and have fun. You taught me something awhile back, and I'm sure you have more to give.
  144. @Brutusale
    He forgot one hallmark of the Becckeisha: she's fat.

    Bingo!

  145. @Tarrou
    Interestingly, the least likely interracial pairing, that of black women and white men, has the smallest rate of divorce, 44% less than a same-race pairing. This is the reverse of what we find with black men and white women, who have half again the likelihood of ending in divorce as same-race pairings.

    I'm not sure exactly how to model that. Could be selection bias, in that only the most committed black females overcome that social pressure to cross racial lines. Could be to do with SMV, black males tend to pair off with some truly ugly white women, and all the black women I've seen with white men are above average. Could be the differential relationship expectations of each group. Most likely, it's all of that along with a bunch of stuff I haven't thought of yet. Interesting nonetheless.

    Simplest explanation, since black women have to overcome the severe handicap of being black women, who are lowest on the racio-sexual hierarchy, “only the best survive.”

  146. @Dave Pinsen
    The first three countries that come to Noah's mind for anti-racists to flock to are interesting:

    Turn America into an ethnostate, and the smart white people will bolt for Canada, Australia, Japan, or wherever else isn't a racist hellhole.
     

    The first three countries that come to Noah’s mind for anti-racists to flock to are interesting:

    Turn America into an ethnostate, and the smart white people will bolt for Canada, Australia, Japan, or wherever else isn’t a racist hellhole.

    Hahaha, I noticed that too. And he even used Japan in the previous paragraph as an example of homogenous country that functions well.

  147. @Sean c
    The cossacks removed a lot of the Jewish management of the serfs when they revolted in the Polish Lithuanian Common Wealth. Much of the killing in eastern europe during the 20th century was payback for that revolt.

    Much of the killing in eastern europe during the 20th century was payback for that revolt.

    Source?

  148. @alaska3636
    I posted about stuff from this website before. It appears to have popped up after watching Get Out and taking the white paranoia too seriously.

    https://wearyourvoicemag.com/identities/race/we-need-to-talk-about-racism-tattoo-industry

    “Tattoos were invented by brown and Black people centuries—even millennia—before white supremacy became the dominant global paradigm.”

    I was curious about the claim.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi

    “Recent research into archaeological evidence for ancient tattooing has confirmed that Ötzi is the oldest tattooed human mummy yet discovered.”

    “By autosomal DNA, Ötzi is most closely related to southern Europeans, especially to geographically isolated populations like Corsicans and Sardinians.”

    A reconstruction of Otzi:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Oetzi_the_Iceman_Rekonstruktion_1.jpg

    So, obviously, white supremacy.

    Damn, dude, I’d have given them the tattoos.

    Frankly, they can have the crap — they wallow in it, after all.

  149. @Expletive Deleted
    Englishman of a certain age here, therefore Daphne du Maurier sprang unbidden.
    I think a remake of the film version with Taylor Swift as Mrs Danvers is in order.

    I just watched the latest remake of Daphne du Maurier’s My Cousin Rachel starring Rachel Weisz (Mrs. James Bond). It was well done but I had no idea what happened at the end.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Cousin_Rachel_(2017_film)

  150. @International Jew
    When it comes to hate, there seems to be some sort of universal conservation principle — Conservation of Hate. So the more carefully whites have to be tippy-toeing around what they can say about blacks, the more aggressive blacks get to be about what they say about whites.

    And much as you'd like to blame "the likes of Haim Saban", Minnesota Lutherans and New England Episcopalians are way worse.

    And much as you’d like to blame “the likes of Haim Saban”, Minnesota Lutherans and New England Episcopalians are way worse.

    You’re right, but Minnesota Lutherans and New England Episcopalians don’t own very many media outlets.

    Hey, your comments here are valuable. Don’t get discouraged. Jews like to argue, right? I think you said it yourself here. Stick around and have fun. You taught me something awhile back, and I’m sure you have more to give.

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    New England Episcopalians don’t own very many media outlets
     
    Depends what you mean by own. They sit on plenty of boards.

    They don't own the presidency either, but they've got enough of a gun to Trump's head that they've been calling the shots for months.
  151. Are you kidding? There are a lot of straight black men who would insult Taylor Swift or a Kardashian. Just look at the comments directed at Swift in her last dustup with Kanye and the heat Kylie took after her infamous Pepsi commercial. That doesn’t mean they wouldn’t fuck the hell out of them if given a chance though.

    • Replies: @anonguy

    That doesn’t mean they wouldn’t fuck the hell out of them if given a chance though.
     
    Honestly, what is your point with that? Showing sexual inadequacy/resentment towards black guys? Are they the only race of guys who would do that to them?

    Really, what is your point?

    Oh, and to another commenters point, educated/upscale black women can be delightful companions. It is a big generalization, but I often find them to have wicked senses of humor.

    I can see where the white guy/black women divorce rate is low.

    Whether positively or negatively, every single person you encounter "notices" you/the pairing.

    Everyone.

    A lot of the noticers, invariably white, take great pains to not be noticed noticing you. So there is often a lot of unspoken social awkwardness, curiosity, etc.

    That is a lot of social matrix distortion to have factored in as a continuous part of one's life. Basically, you are always on stage.

    If you make it to marriage in that type of pairing, likely you have a higher than average commitment to each other than some of the other interracial marriages.

  152. @Roy
    Are you kidding? There are a lot of straight black men who would insult Taylor Swift or a Kardashian. Just look at the comments directed at Swift in her last dustup with Kanye and the heat Kylie took after her infamous Pepsi commercial. That doesn't mean they wouldn't fuck the hell out of them if given a chance though.

    That doesn’t mean they wouldn’t fuck the hell out of them if given a chance though.

    Honestly, what is your point with that? Showing sexual inadequacy/resentment towards black guys? Are they the only race of guys who would do that to them?

    Really, what is your point?

    Oh, and to another commenters point, educated/upscale black women can be delightful companions. It is a big generalization, but I often find them to have wicked senses of humor.

    I can see where the white guy/black women divorce rate is low.

    Whether positively or negatively, every single person you encounter “notices” you/the pairing.

    Everyone.

    A lot of the noticers, invariably white, take great pains to not be noticed noticing you. So there is often a lot of unspoken social awkwardness, curiosity, etc.

    That is a lot of social matrix distortion to have factored in as a continuous part of one’s life. Basically, you are always on stage.

    If you make it to marriage in that type of pairing, likely you have a higher than average commitment to each other than some of the other interracial marriages.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I don't date or have relations outside my race, (I did at one time but never with blacks) but I have certainly worked with a few black females who were funny, likeable, and at least somewhat intelligent. A couple were smarter than I am, probably. I liked them as people and as co-workers. But most of the ones I worked with would not meet any of those descriptions. They tended towards being the opposite of all those things.

    Often they had serious dysfunctions in their private life which rolled over into work. Many were surly and had entitlement issues. Some were plain stupid.

    Now some of the white females, and some of the white males too, had those issues. We had few black males because we did not hire high school dropouts (GED was acceptable with one year of vo-tec or community college) or felons and those black males smart enough to do what we did had a tendency to get Affirmative Actioned into better jobs. But the trends of surly, inept, and stupid skewed black, and there was no way to not notice.

    As far as to which males, assuming they are heterosexual, wouldn't like to knock the bottom out of the women in question-I wouldn't touch a Kardashian with a ten foot pole. Taylor Swift, I'd find tough to turn down for the celebrity value alone. Most famous women don't especially appeal to me because the kind of woman I really go for isn't much sought after in today's Hollywood. The redhead in Mad Men is the last one that really rang my chimes.
  153. @Tarrou
    The word "unsurprising" referred to the fact that the racial partners of the most interracially partnered would respond by denigrating interracial relationships.

    You may find it incredible, but I encourage you to do your research.

    A good starting point is the Pew surveys on interracial marriage: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/12/interracial-marriage-who-is-marrying-out/

    Key quote: "Among blacks, men are much more likely than women to marry someone of a different race. Fully a quarter of black men who got married in 2013 married someone who was not black. Only 12% of black women married outside of their race.
    For Asians, the gender pattern goes in the opposite direction: Asian women are much more likely than Asian men to marry someone of a different race. Among newlyweds in 2013, 37% of Asian women married someone who was not Asian, while 16% of Asian men married outside of their race."

    I have already seen that same survey quoted (and responded to it) elsewhere on unz.com, a fact about which I think you are probably aware despite your dissembling.

    I am contesting the “unsurprisingness” of a high rate of interracial marriage for (East) Asian women because the rate of (naturally) good-looking women here is much lower than where I come from. A large percentage of them look like boys dressed up in drag: large faces with small features and excessive makeup.

    Therefore, I presume that there must be several factors fueling this high rate of intermarriage on the part of Asian women:

    1. Percentages of the total population (Those results come from a survey of married couples in the United States. As shown in the first bar graph on the site to which you have linked, there is a very strong anticorrelation between the size of a racial group as a percentage of the total US population and that racial group’s rate of interracial marriage. If Asians grew to comprise a greater percentage of the total US population, their rate of interracial marriage would surely decrease. Of course, this factor does not explain the excess of interracial marriage on the part of Asian women in the US relative to interracial marriage on the part of Asian men in the US. However, note that Asian men’s rate of interracial marriage in the US is actually more than twice the rate of interracial marriage on the part of White people in the US.)
    2. A desire on the part of the women to disassociate themselves from their homelands. (Since the economies and governments of most East Asian countries actually function quite well these days, such a desire might be more likely founded on an intense disgust for their co-ethnics, especially male ones. Of course, for Southeast Asians, there is still a considerable possibility that women might be interested in marrying a non-Asian American for economic reasons, even to the point of migrating to the US. Personally, I suspect that the strongest motivation for many such Asian women is not disassociating themselves from their homeland or male co-ethnics so much as disassociating their offspring from the Mongoloid race as a whole.)
    3. Desperation on the part of non-Asian men in the US. (It takes two to tango, and I have noticed a trend of nerdy, unattractive White men dating plain-looking or unattractive Asian women. I suspect a large part of this trend is motivated by certain stereotypes that are current in American mass media and pop culture regarding attitudes of Asian women toward marriage and family.)
    4. Mental illness on the part of Asians. (The opinions voiced by many of my Asian friends and acquaintances reveal a very warped sense of physical attractiveness. They, both men and women, tend to make more verbal fuss about the physical appearance of males than they do about the physical appearance of females. At least ostensibly, they consider gynomorphic characteristics on men to be attractive. They are not so explicit about preferring andromorphic characteristics on women, but the choices that the men make when given a choice suggest that they either don’t care about the physical appearance of women or they really do prefer women who have andromorphic characteristics, first among which must be counted a large facial frame bearing facial features that are small in proportion to the frame. Personally, I think the women are bullshitting, which would definitely not be a first for Asians, and that many of the men have some serious mental problems.)

  154. @the Supreme Gentleman
    OT (why aren't there iSteve open threads?), but Steve would have a lot of fun with Noah Smith's recent paean to diversity:


    An America defined by white racial nationalism - an American Whitopia - would be an economic and cultural disaster movie. It would be a dysfunctional, crappy civilization, sinking into the fetid morass of its own decay. Some people think that an American Whitopia would be bad for people of color but ultimately good for whites, but this is dead wrong. Although nonwhite Americans would certainly suffer greatly, white American suffering under the dystopia of a Trumpist society would be dire and unending.
     
    http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com/2017/09/an-american-whitopia-would-be-dystopia.html

    An America defined by white racial nationalism – an American Whitopia – would be an economic and cultural disaster movie. It would be a dysfunctional, crappy civilization, sinking into the fetid morass of its own decay. Some people think that an American Whitopia would be bad for people of color but ultimately good for whites, but this is dead wrong. Although nonwhite Americans would certainly suffer greatly, white American suffering under the dystopia of a Trumpist society would be dire and unending.

    Who’s stupider — Tennisy Coats or Noah Smith?

  155. @Yan Shen
    Already knew about that book and Mr. Derbyshire's "background" in math. Doesn't really detract from what I said above.

    I'm obviously not comparing white Ta Nehisi Coates to Bobby Fischer here in terms of talent, but the latter also had some interesting obsessions outside of chess, for instance.

    I think most of you are missing the point. Derb doesn't necessarily get a free pass from rational judgement just because of some of his past achievements or because narrowly speaking he's factually correct about blacks committing violent crimes at disproportionate rates, etc. Ask yourself why someone might have a different perception of say Steve Hsu compared to John Derbyshire and I think you'll start putting yourself on the path towards understanding where I'm coming from here!

    understanding where I’m coming from here!

    Not that interesting.

    Sorry.

  156. @Buzz Mohawk

    And much as you’d like to blame “the likes of Haim Saban”, Minnesota Lutherans and New England Episcopalians are way worse.
     
    You're right, but Minnesota Lutherans and New England Episcopalians don't own very many media outlets.

    Hey, your comments here are valuable. Don't get discouraged. Jews like to argue, right? I think you said it yourself here. Stick around and have fun. You taught me something awhile back, and I'm sure you have more to give.

    New England Episcopalians don’t own very many media outlets

    Depends what you mean by own. They sit on plenty of boards.

    They don’t own the presidency either, but they’ve got enough of a gun to Trump’s head that they’ve been calling the shots for months.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    And I thought everything was controlled by Masons.

    Shows ya what I know.

    I should have known better. Masons would want to build a wall. (sorry)
  157. @Desiderius

    New England Episcopalians don’t own very many media outlets
     
    Depends what you mean by own. They sit on plenty of boards.

    They don't own the presidency either, but they've got enough of a gun to Trump's head that they've been calling the shots for months.

    And I thought everything was controlled by Masons.

    Shows ya what I know.

    I should have known better. Masons would want to build a wall. (sorry)

    • LOL: Opinionator
  158. @Yan Shen
    Look man, I'm not saying I agree with the PC police who ousted white Ta-Nehisi Coates from the National Review. I'm not even saying that factually speaking Mr. Derbyshire is wrong per se.

    I do disagree that his version of the talk should be construed as merely trying to make a point by turning the anti-white animus of the black John Derbyshire on itself. I think white Ta-Nehisi Coates spoke from a place of honesty in his Talk in that the obsession and animus that he seems to have against African Americans in that article is often reflected in a number of his other writings as well. It wasn't exactly an isolated incident, but rather fit a larger pattern of the kinds of topics that interest him in general.

    White Ta-Nehisi Coates may have only written 1 article explicitly about being white, as he argued in his own self defense, but he sure seems to write a lot about race, hence the equivalency to black John Derbyshire!

    I don’t know why the heck you think that picking on one of the best columnists on Unz makes you look like anything but a total idiot. So much for that Confucian awareness.

  159. @Steve Sailer
    Hillary was much healthier in 2008 than in 2016.

    She had some kind of health disaster in late 2012 and never really came all the way back, the way Reagan never really recovered from being shot in 1981.

    Reagan never really recovered from being shot in 1981

    He got shot 2 months into his first term! The remaining 8+- years he didn’t get anything accomplished???

    The leftys are still chewing the rugs over the Reagan Revolution and how he changed the direction of the country….hoping Trump can do the same thing. With all the other news, the lefty media has cut waaay back on the Trump bashing….

    Iran Contra was when things started to go south….and that was middle of ’86 or so.

  160. @AnotherDad

    OT (why aren’t there iSteve open threads?), but Steve would have a lot of fun with Noah Smith’s recent paean to diversity:
     
    Steve, the Gentlemen is correct. This one could be great fun for the assembled.

    I flipped over and just got started on it and the ways in which Noah is nitwit just come bubbling up. Seriously his analogy--what the whitetopia America will be like is ... the Ukraine! And on and on from there, stupidity piled upon stupidity.

    Hey Noah, I've got an even better whitetopia prediction than the Ukraine--America from 1924 to 1965. Yep, an absolute hell hole that was!

    Someone made that point in a comment on his blog, and Noah acknowledged that pre-1965 America wasn’t terrible, though not as great as it is now. Then he went on about “path dependence”. In a nutshell, his argument seems to be: “Sure, >85% European-American USA was great, but if you tried to get back to that now using dystopian methods smart white people would leave and America would turn into Ukraine”.

    I suspect Noah reads a lot 1488-type stuff on the web and this is his reaction to it. An interesting tack, for someone he is willing to engage, would be to ask him what demographic balance he thinks would be optimal and why.

  161. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @anonguy

    That doesn’t mean they wouldn’t fuck the hell out of them if given a chance though.
     
    Honestly, what is your point with that? Showing sexual inadequacy/resentment towards black guys? Are they the only race of guys who would do that to them?

    Really, what is your point?

    Oh, and to another commenters point, educated/upscale black women can be delightful companions. It is a big generalization, but I often find them to have wicked senses of humor.

    I can see where the white guy/black women divorce rate is low.

    Whether positively or negatively, every single person you encounter "notices" you/the pairing.

    Everyone.

    A lot of the noticers, invariably white, take great pains to not be noticed noticing you. So there is often a lot of unspoken social awkwardness, curiosity, etc.

    That is a lot of social matrix distortion to have factored in as a continuous part of one's life. Basically, you are always on stage.

    If you make it to marriage in that type of pairing, likely you have a higher than average commitment to each other than some of the other interracial marriages.

    I don’t date or have relations outside my race, (I did at one time but never with blacks) but I have certainly worked with a few black females who were funny, likeable, and at least somewhat intelligent. A couple were smarter than I am, probably. I liked them as people and as co-workers. But most of the ones I worked with would not meet any of those descriptions. They tended towards being the opposite of all those things.

    Often they had serious dysfunctions in their private life which rolled over into work. Many were surly and had entitlement issues. Some were plain stupid.

    Now some of the white females, and some of the white males too, had those issues. We had few black males because we did not hire high school dropouts (GED was acceptable with one year of vo-tec or community college) or felons and those black males smart enough to do what we did had a tendency to get Affirmative Actioned into better jobs. But the trends of surly, inept, and stupid skewed black, and there was no way to not notice.

    As far as to which males, assuming they are heterosexual, wouldn’t like to knock the bottom out of the women in question-I wouldn’t touch a Kardashian with a ten foot pole. Taylor Swift, I’d find tough to turn down for the celebrity value alone. Most famous women don’t especially appeal to me because the kind of woman I really go for isn’t much sought after in today’s Hollywood. The redhead in Mad Men is the last one that really rang my chimes.

  162. This is going to come as a SHOCK to many or even most readers here but….

    After long and careful study, I discovered the yes, SHOCKING TRUTH that the Gambino Crime family was an Italian American organized crime Mafia family.

    I also discovered that from ~ 1920 – 1970s the top of American organized crime was dominated by Italian American mafia families.

    Who would have thought this to be the case?

    In similar manner, I learned that a different ethnic group donates the top of the American mainstream media, dominates all Hollywood movie studios.

    The owner of Univision – the largest Spanish Language American TV station is Haim Saban, who isn’t Hispanic and I doubt he even speaks Spanish. He was born in Egypt, but wasn’t an Egyptian Arab. He went to school in Israel, then somehow wound up in Southern California where he achieved fame and great wealth producing a children’s live action TV show the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers – somehow this translated in to him becoming the largest Spanish Television media mogul, backing Hillary Clinton and other Lib Left Dem causes like open borders immigration to the USA.

    Now some people might find this path to American media power kind of shocking as Haim Saban’s life isn’t very typical “American” – but it isn’t so shocking when you understand the reality of American ethnic media mafias.

    This doesn’t tend to work well for Trump supporters, middle Americans, Blue Collar Reagan Democrats, Good ol boys, those people who want our immigration laws enforced, those who want an America First foreign policy etc.

  163. @Buzz Mohawk
    If anyone were to do a Derbyshire and publish a reverse version of this anti-White piece of race-hate, say "The 5 Types of Beckesha," he would no doubt be fired, tarred and feathered. He would be Derbed.

    It bears repeating: The only form of race-hatred allowed is anti-White hatred. This hatred is not only allowed but promulgated by the likes of Haim Saban. This is simply a statement of fact supported by evidence like this article.

    A black woman named Shahrazad Ali DID do it back in the ’80s. She escaped tar-and-feathers after The Blackman’s Guide to Understanding the Blackwoman came out, but black women were calling her a race and gender traitor, self-hating black, Aunt Thomasina, etc.
    (Meanwhile, black men were coming up to her in the street and THANKING her.)

  164. The more this gets out there to White women, the more they will respond the way women always respond to dominance: SUBMISSION.

    This is just another dominance display by a non-White male. And White women will do what they always do when non-White males engage in dominance displays: SUBMIT. Its wired into their DNA so you can’t blame them. White women are literally incapable of responding any other way.

    So there you go. What White men need to do is play the social dominance game, which is very demanding and negatively affects the ability to earn a living. Try playing dominance games in the office as a White man and see how long you last — as opposed to a Muslim man who is allowed to scream about how he will behead the infidel and has all the women in the workplace getting special lady tingles. [Paging Maj. Hassan, paging Maj. Nidal Abu Jihad Hassan!]

    The author knows this; which is why this dominance display. He’s probably gotten laid off this article by multiple White women just eager to submit.

  165. @the Supreme Gentleman
    OT (why aren't there iSteve open threads?), but Steve would have a lot of fun with Noah Smith's recent paean to diversity:


    An America defined by white racial nationalism - an American Whitopia - would be an economic and cultural disaster movie. It would be a dysfunctional, crappy civilization, sinking into the fetid morass of its own decay. Some people think that an American Whitopia would be bad for people of color but ultimately good for whites, but this is dead wrong. Although nonwhite Americans would certainly suffer greatly, white American suffering under the dystopia of a Trumpist society would be dire and unending.
     
    http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com/2017/09/an-american-whitopia-would-be-dystopia.html

    I’m disappointed in how razib seems to respect the opinion of someone like noah smith.

  166. @El Dato
    Michael Harriot is a staff writer at The Root, host of "The Black One" podcast and editor-in-chief of the daily digital magazine NegusWhoRead.

    http://neguswhoread.com/ : Smart Bold Brilliant Black

    That was a unfortunate choice. Negus Whore Ad is not something I want to pass my firewall.

    Negus was a popular 18th-century drink containing tawny port, lemon, and sugar. It was named after Col. Francis Negus.

    • Replies: @Anon
    I would assume he's referring to the Negus of Abyssinia, but in that case the verb should be "reads", so who knows?
  167. Actually…pretty funny.

  168. As far as I can tell, “Becky” refers to entitled white women. Yes, they feel entitled but mainly by gender and not by race. “Rebecca” is apolitically entitled by her looks, while “Becca” and “Reba” show varying degrees of political entitlement. Maybe there should be a scale of looks vs. politics as a basis of entitlement, with beautiful Rebecca and ugly Reba as its end members. “Beckeisha” seems to be a cross-racial category that includes entitled black women as well as entitled wannabe black women.

  169. @Tiny Duck
    The white tears on display here are delicious!

    Face it you guys lose know one likes you

    This article points out white girls look good but are otherwise worthless due to their shitty fathers

    The only way they are redeemed is by forming relationships with Men of Color

    Where are you from, Tiny Duck? What ESL nation produces English speakers who mistake “know” for “no”?

  170. @Tiny Duck
    The white tears on display here are delicious!

    Face it you guys lose know one likes you

    This article points out white girls look good but are otherwise worthless due to their shitty fathers

    The only way they are redeemed is by forming relationships with Men of Color

    “The white tears on display here are delicious!

    Face it you guys lose know one likes you”

    - Know one nose the trouble we no.

  171. @Rosamond Vincy
    Negus was a popular 18th-century drink containing tawny port, lemon, and sugar. It was named after Col. Francis Negus.

    I would assume he’s referring to the Negus of Abyssinia, but in that case the verb should be “reads”, so who knows?

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