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Commenter anon observes:

“It was hot uh permanently traumatizing.”

Bingo and Yup.

I mean it’s a Pussing Contest.

It’s like killing two birds with one stone.

On the one hand, they get to brag how HOT they are/were and men just couldn’t resist them. They turned the head of every man.

On the other hand, they get to lament about their vicitmhood at the hands of these misogynist men (whose crime seems to be they liked women too much). Rape!

What a combo.

From the male perspective, there used to be the madonna/whore complex.

Now, from the modern female perspective, there is the vixen/victim(or vixtim) complex, aka hussy/hissy complex.

It’s so irresistible — a formula that fuses opposites into unity is hard to come by — that it could be the basis for a female religion. The genius of Christianity was, after all, the fusion of defeat with victory. Poor victim Jesus… turned out to be Son of God, indeed God.

But will any Vixtim have the vision to bake a religion out of this?

It may be good to be the king but it’s just divine to be a vixtim.

 
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  1. Thomm says:

    You will almost never find an exceptionally hot woman get on this accusation circus. Most are either unattractive, or former beauties that are now age 45+ (and have suffered the double-blow of both vastly lower earnings prospects in Hollywood, *and* much lower attention to men relative to before).

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  2. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    At what point, Steve, are you going to admit that the cult of the victim in modern society ultimately derives from the Christian valorisation of Jesus, and then an assortment of martyr-saints?
    In no other world religion do you see the glorification of martyrs to such an extent. Shia Islam, yes, but it’s not much of a global religion.

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    Of course, you are right, factually. But surely you are taking this as a way to impugn Christianity. And yet it is far from obvious to me that the willingness to suffer "victimhood" in pursuit of ultimate victory is an error. The roots of the idea that this might be a good thing are certainly to be found in Plato (and probably Socrates).

    I think this is a complex topic, and while I take the valorisation of victimhood as such to be a deep error, I think the willingness to appear as a victim is admirable (given that one does not embrace this perception oneself).

    I don't think that Christianity ultimately embraces the victimhood of Jesus. He rises again.

    I'm really a sort of quasi-Christian, proto-Christian, but that is how it seems to me.
    , @Lurker
    But the western/European world has been Christian for at least 1000 years, and longer than that in parts. All this victim bollocks really only got started within living memory - post WW2.
    , @bomag

    ...the cult of the victim in modern society ultimately derives from the Christian valorisation of Jesus, and then an assortment of martyr-saints?... In no other world religion do you see the glorification of martyrs to such an extent.
     
    Christianity was one martyrdom to end all martyrdoms.

    Paganism and others had a large chunk dedicated to honoring those who fell in battle and getting revenge on your enemies. Christianity, not so much. It was more about suffering and praying; others might notice and raise you up; you could notice and raise up others; the individual wasn't supposed to declare themselves a saint.
    , @Frau Katze
    Islam, Shia or otherwise is huge and out to get bigger. Don’t underestimate these people. Wiki:

    Adherents of Islam constitute the world's second largest religious group. According to a study in 2015, Islam has 1.8 billion adherents, making up about 24% of the world population. Most Muslims are either of two denominations: Sunni (80-90%, roughly 1.5 billion people) or Shia (10–20%, roughly 170-340 million people).
     
    , @Almost Missouri

    "Shia Islam, yes"
     
    I think Shia martyrs are exclusively men fallen in battle for the Faith. Rape victims, not so much.
    , @vx37
    And yet, this "Christian cult of the victim" didn't arise until the advent of Jewish television.
    , @Wilkey
    "At what point, Steve, are you going to admit that the cult of the victim in modern society ultimately derives from the Christian valorisation of Jesus, and then an assortment of martyr-saints?"

    Nah. 2,000 years of Christianity and, not coincidentally, the cult of victimhood only arises with the introduction of audiovisual mass media.

    The ways in which audiovisual media have altered our beliefs and behaviors are too numerous to count, but it is especially influential with regard to politics and sex. Prior to its invention how many political movements arose over concern for The Other? Abolition is about the only one that comes to mind, and that was a serious crime nothing like the random, ridiculous shit that sparks social movements nowadays. 100+ years ago Americans were happy to, say, entirely ban immigration from China. Today a huge % of us are manipulated by the mass media into supporting the invasion of our country by parasitic foreigners.
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  3. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    My own opinion about all the left-wing molesters is to quote Napoleon: “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”

    Let ‘em take the flak.

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    Another gem from Le Francais:

    "vive le difference!"
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  4. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Look at the new “POLITICO” article breathlessly pumping GilliBrand stock–of course there are countless operators chomping at the bit to deploy this market-tested religion, and some of ‘em like Kristin don’t even have a horse face. Wheel in for close-up. Forget “The View,” if you’ve watched any primetime network TV drama this century then you already know the formula in detail

    Women Are Strong! But Their Lives Should Be Made Easier! You Sexist!

    Blondes & Brunettes: Special Vixtim Unity

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  5. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    At what point, Steve, are you going to admit that the cult of the victim in modern society ultimately derives from the Christian valorisation of Jesus, and then an assortment of martyr-saints?
    In no other world religion do you see the glorification of martyrs to such an extent. Shia Islam, yes, but it's not much of a global religion.

    Of course, you are right, factually. But surely you are taking this as a way to impugn Christianity. And yet it is far from obvious to me that the willingness to suffer “victimhood” in pursuit of ultimate victory is an error. The roots of the idea that this might be a good thing are certainly to be found in Plato (and probably Socrates).

    I think this is a complex topic, and while I take the valorisation of victimhood as such to be a deep error, I think the willingness to appear as a victim is admirable (given that one does not embrace this perception oneself).

    I don’t think that Christianity ultimately embraces the victimhood of Jesus. He rises again.

    I’m really a sort of quasi-Christian, proto-Christian, but that is how it seems to me.

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  6. Bill P says:

    Anon is pretty close to the mark.

    This charade plays to the autoeroticism at the heart of female sexuality. To be chased – to be an object of desire – gets women going. The higher status the pursuer, the more it satisfies this craving to be the object of interest. The “damsel in distress” part serves the same purpose. When people rush to comfort, console and show concern it further validates the need to be the center of attention.

    Some of the best works of art are all about this aspect of the female heart.

    So, essentially, this issue is insoluble in mixed sex environments. Where it doesn’t exist both men and women will do their best to create it. This is why, back in the bad old days, men and women more or less agreed to control different domains, and to exert a lot of cultural control (e.g. formal manners, laws, etc) over those where they overlapped.

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  7. Jim Given says:

    The viewing of dopey, evil, old-fashioned, i.e., 1950′s; pre-1960s-Enlightenment society always allows the viewer to secretly enjoy and identify with all that repressive, evil, old stuff, while simultaneously mocking and deploring it. In the 1960′s, this is called Pop Art, e.g. Warhol; ; then Camp, e.g. Batman. Underground cartoonist R. Crumb can draw utterly racist and sexist comics (lots of examples) for the hippies, because his Comix are actually satires! He didn’t actually enjoy (and neither did the reader) all that terrible stuff. Course not-

    This vast world of fantasy, of escape from PC, is called “irony” in the 1970′s, and it is huge! In the seventies, ever-present irony allows the viewer – and of course the creators – to re-enter the forbidden world of Old and Bad, but this time, without any responsibility for what happens – this is Post-Modern play, and the essence of Post-Modern is an invulnerable, utterly irresponsible exercise of power. One can do all the bad adult behaviors from the 1950′s without penalty, because now they are just Play.

    When the frame becomes so fluid and elusive, there is bound to be trouble.After watching the Three Stooges, the kids were apt to start punching and slapping each other in imitation of all that (now licensed) good fun. Maybe Al Franken did the same thing – fell into a SNL skit that was real; that was Not Really Play at all-

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  8. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Steve,

    Do you seriously think that all these women enjoyed the experiences they are now complaining about? I don’t doubt that some of them whored themselves out and are now retroactively pretending to be victims. But I also don’t doubt that the bitterness is sincere. Being a whore is no fun.

    P.S. Now, if I may complain about something (complaining is fun!), I don’t see the utility of Ron Unz’s insistence that commenters either call themselves Anon or commit to a permanent handle. I can imagine that some people might be interested to know that I am the same Anon that left a bunch of comments on the “Women of America Speak!” post. On the other hand, I do not want to leave an easily identifiable trail of comments about vibrators, etc on the internet for everyone to read. It really seems like it would have been better for everyone if I could have called myself American Woman, Speaking for this thread, and then some other thing should some other thread in three months inspire me to chime in. It seems more sockpuppetty to be Anon, and leave you guessing whether I am one or ten different people.

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    • Replies: @James Kabala
    I made similar comments on the other thread, but I guess you and I are just out of step with the rest. Since that thread seemed about to peter out I will just quote myself here:

    "Serious predators (a group that seems to clearly include Cosby, Weinstein, and Spacey – jury still out on Moore and Franken) will go after pretty much anyone. I think it really is at least partly about power for them. The idea that any woman (or man in the case of Spacey) should or does feel complimented at being considered 'erotically irresistible' by such a person is dubious."

    I haven't done intense close reading of these various statements (especially since there are so many by now), but in the ones I have seen, I don't get Steve's interpretation even as a subtext. I am not sure why he is pushing it so hard.

    P.S.. I should have also mentioned Louis C.K. in the other thread - the idea that any woman would be flattered by that bizarre spectacle is ludicrous.

    , @Anon
    Why not sign yourself, like I do sometimes? It's a method open to abuse but not generally abused here that I've seen.

    RSDB
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  9. @Anon
    Steve,

    Do you seriously think that all these women enjoyed the experiences they are now complaining about? I don't doubt that some of them whored themselves out and are now retroactively pretending to be victims. But I also don't doubt that the bitterness is sincere. Being a whore is no fun.

    P.S. Now, if I may complain about something (complaining is fun!), I don't see the utility of Ron Unz's insistence that commenters either call themselves Anon or commit to a permanent handle. I can imagine that some people might be interested to know that I am the same Anon that left a bunch of comments on the "Women of America Speak!" post. On the other hand, I do not want to leave an easily identifiable trail of comments about vibrators, etc on the internet for everyone to read. It really seems like it would have been better for everyone if I could have called myself American Woman, Speaking for this thread, and then some other thing should some other thread in three months inspire me to chime in. It seems more sockpuppetty to be Anon, and leave you guessing whether I am one or ten different people.

    I made similar comments on the other thread, but I guess you and I are just out of step with the rest. Since that thread seemed about to peter out I will just quote myself here:

    “Serious predators (a group that seems to clearly include Cosby, Weinstein, and Spacey – jury still out on Moore and Franken) will go after pretty much anyone. I think it really is at least partly about power for them. The idea that any woman (or man in the case of Spacey) should or does feel complimented at being considered ‘erotically irresistible’ by such a person is dubious.”

    I haven’t done intense close reading of these various statements (especially since there are so many by now), but in the ones I have seen, I don’t get Steve’s interpretation even as a subtext. I am not sure why he is pushing it so hard.

    P.S.. I should have also mentioned Louis C.K. in the other thread – the idea that any woman would be flattered by that bizarre spectacle is ludicrous.

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  10. Lurker says:
    @Anonymous
    At what point, Steve, are you going to admit that the cult of the victim in modern society ultimately derives from the Christian valorisation of Jesus, and then an assortment of martyr-saints?
    In no other world religion do you see the glorification of martyrs to such an extent. Shia Islam, yes, but it's not much of a global religion.

    But the western/European world has been Christian for at least 1000 years, and longer than that in parts. All this victim bollocks really only got started within living memory – post WW2.

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    But the western/European world has been Christian for at least 1000 years, and longer than that in parts. All this victim bollocks really only got started within living memory – post WW2.
     
    That's precisely the point. As Christianity fades from our culture, the same themes and memes resurface from the collective subconscious, this time as dangerous "free radicals" unmoored from any structured religious doctrine ("teaching").
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  11. bomag says:
    @Anonymous
    At what point, Steve, are you going to admit that the cult of the victim in modern society ultimately derives from the Christian valorisation of Jesus, and then an assortment of martyr-saints?
    In no other world religion do you see the glorification of martyrs to such an extent. Shia Islam, yes, but it's not much of a global religion.

    …the cult of the victim in modern society ultimately derives from the Christian valorisation of Jesus, and then an assortment of martyr-saints?… In no other world religion do you see the glorification of martyrs to such an extent.

    Christianity was one martyrdom to end all martyrdoms.

    Paganism and others had a large chunk dedicated to honoring those who fell in battle and getting revenge on your enemies. Christianity, not so much. It was more about suffering and praying; others might notice and raise you up; you could notice and raise up others; the individual wasn’t supposed to declare themselves a saint.

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  12. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I like the wordplay. But the vixtim thesis is a rehash of female HYSTERICS.

    Women were always banned from politics and most all other management positions on the basis of hysterics. They will always get sidetracked by hysteria and replace the original work mission with a new more important mission based on hysterics. Modern SJWism is just the latest incarnation of the dynamic.

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    Hysterics. You hit it on the nose.

    And what's going to come of this? The sexual equivalent of Prohibition, which was also driven by elite white female hysteria. Expect to see the ban on workplace dating vastly extended.

    Concurrently, you're going to see more internet porn addiction (if that's possible), more prostitution, and more men finding solace in bromances and outright homosexuality. And an acceleration of the white demographic implosion.

    I sometimes wonder whether the WASP male drive to colonize the farthest reaches of the world didn't come from a pressing desire to get away from their women. Too bad they never actually succeeded.
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  13. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    If we’re going to talk about Christianity, what I’d like to know is: what happened to the moral prohibition on gossip? Airing the sins of others is apparently a moral duty now. When did that happen?

    - Same Anon as 5:30am GMT

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  14. @Anonymous
    At what point, Steve, are you going to admit that the cult of the victim in modern society ultimately derives from the Christian valorisation of Jesus, and then an assortment of martyr-saints?
    In no other world religion do you see the glorification of martyrs to such an extent. Shia Islam, yes, but it's not much of a global religion.

    Islam, Shia or otherwise is huge and out to get bigger. Don’t underestimate these people. Wiki:

    Adherents of Islam constitute the world’s second largest religious group. According to a study in 2015, Islam has 1.8 billion adherents, making up about 24% of the world population. Most Muslims are either of two denominations: Sunni (80-90%, roughly 1.5 billion people) or Shia (10–20%, roughly 170-340 million people).

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  15. “On the one hand, they get to brag how HOT they are/were and men just couldn’t resist them. They turned the head of every man.

    On the other hand, they get to lament about their vicitmhood at the hands of these misogynist men (whose crime seems to be they liked women too much). Rape!”

    There is something similar going on with males who enjoy talking about these rape stories.

    On the one hand it depicts males in general as dangerous predators, which many people find attractive. So a male talking about those things can imagine himself in that role, especially when talking with women. There is simply something sexual in the air.

    On the other hand a male can act like a righteous people having concern for the poor victims.

    Also I think this combination of victim and hero is at the core of the antiracist sentiment. People love strong winners. But they even love more strong winners who have problems to overcome, injustice to suffer. Thats why white people love black people. They love them for being tough, beating up everybody else etc. – only thing needed is the myth that there are somehow disadvantaged, which makes their victories only sweeter.

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    Of course it’s also, and in a very banal way, just a chance to finally out some really juicy gossip.

    I don’t like gossip, but I have to admit this kind of stuff about some very familiar figures, some of whom I admire, some of whom I loathe, is awfully interesting.

    “The Dalai Lama seduced a waitress”, “Osama Bin Laden made a pass at a Western journalist”, “JK Rowling sent a salacious email to a fan” — I made these up, and it makes me a little sick to even write such stuff, but if they were true, they’d be interesting... And it would take down these rulers of my world a notch...
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  16. This is pretty much the holiest, and greatest humblebrag yet.

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  17. Al Franken was pleadin’ with Tweeden
    To give him the snatch he was needin’.
    She had to refuse;
    He happened to choose
    The time of the month she was bleedin’.

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    Al Franken thought he could win
    In his permanent quest to get in
    But he failed to score laurels
    Not because of her morals
    But because he was ugly as sin
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  18. @Anonymous
    At what point, Steve, are you going to admit that the cult of the victim in modern society ultimately derives from the Christian valorisation of Jesus, and then an assortment of martyr-saints?
    In no other world religion do you see the glorification of martyrs to such an extent. Shia Islam, yes, but it's not much of a global religion.

    “Shia Islam, yes”

    I think Shia martyrs are exclusively men fallen in battle for the Faith. Rape victims, not so much.

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  19. I’m starting to believe there is a rebellion of Gentile women against powerful, entitled Jewish men. The latest is the allegations against Al Franken. Also, Kathy Griffin has been ripping into Andy Cohen and Harvey Levin.

    And nobody is accusing the ladies of anti-semitism.

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    I’m starting to believe there is a rebellion of Gentile women against powerful, entitled Jewish men.
     
    Precisely this.

    Also, some of these females are getting their first whiff of why traditionalist men and women hold the beliefs they do about sexuality, relations between the sexes, and such.

    I'm willing to sacrifice the careers of degenerates like Weinstein to give the ladies enough rope of resentment and regret to hang their former whorish selves.

    The big open question at present is whether Gentile men will step into the breach, nod in a courtly way, and offer a manly hand to invite her into then lead the waltz down from the gallows.

    Rather than the present moment being Peak Insanity, it could be the turning of an essential corner.

    Sibelius's "Valse Triste" methinks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjPb_apG_NQ

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  20. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    Steve,

    Do you seriously think that all these women enjoyed the experiences they are now complaining about? I don't doubt that some of them whored themselves out and are now retroactively pretending to be victims. But I also don't doubt that the bitterness is sincere. Being a whore is no fun.

    P.S. Now, if I may complain about something (complaining is fun!), I don't see the utility of Ron Unz's insistence that commenters either call themselves Anon or commit to a permanent handle. I can imagine that some people might be interested to know that I am the same Anon that left a bunch of comments on the "Women of America Speak!" post. On the other hand, I do not want to leave an easily identifiable trail of comments about vibrators, etc on the internet for everyone to read. It really seems like it would have been better for everyone if I could have called myself American Woman, Speaking for this thread, and then some other thing should some other thread in three months inspire me to chime in. It seems more sockpuppetty to be Anon, and leave you guessing whether I am one or ten different people.

    Why not sign yourself, like I do sometimes? It’s a method open to abuse but not generally abused here that I’ve seen.

    RSDB

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    That’s a good suggestion, but there still won’t be an easy-to-follow comment trail like there is with the comments of non-anonymous commenters.

    (not a complaint, don’t want to get in trouble with our kind host, Just discussion!).
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  22. @the one they call Desanex
    Al Franken was pleadin’ with Tweeden
    To give him the snatch he was needin’.
    She had to refuse;
    He happened to choose
    The time of the month she was bleedin’.

    Al Franken thought he could win
    In his permanent quest to get in
    But he failed to score laurels
    Not because of her morals
    But because he was ugly as sin

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    Every United States Senator is alpha but in covert Sneaky backstabber//lord of flies ways// is how he got there.
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  23. vx37 says:
    @Anonymous
    At what point, Steve, are you going to admit that the cult of the victim in modern society ultimately derives from the Christian valorisation of Jesus, and then an assortment of martyr-saints?
    In no other world religion do you see the glorification of martyrs to such an extent. Shia Islam, yes, but it's not much of a global religion.

    And yet, this “Christian cult of the victim” didn’t arise until the advent of Jewish television.

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  24. Clyde says:

    We already have the super vixtems. With the right lawyers and with other similar complainants see big (lawsuit) payoffs in utero. The Fed prints everything anyways, the peasantry knows this subliminally so (for them) Laissez les bons temps rouler

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  25. Clyde says:
    @Rosamond Vincy
    Al Franken thought he could win
    In his permanent quest to get in
    But he failed to score laurels
    Not because of her morals
    But because he was ugly as sin

    Every United States Senator is alpha but in covert Sneaky backstabber//lord of flies ways// is how he got there.

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  26. Now, from the modern female perspective, there is the vixen/victim(or vixtim) complex, aka hussy/hissy complex.

    Roissy once had a line about a woman who was now north of the “Matron/Vixen” Line. Would work here, too.

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  27. As an Aussie, I am very proud that Cate Blanchette has not climbed on the victimhood train. Cate’s secret weapon, of course, is that she actually can act.

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    I agree, I am constantly impressed by her.

    And the 2006 film Notes on a Scandal was wildly entertaining. Cheers!

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  28. BenKenobi says:
    @Anon
    My own opinion about all the left-wing molesters is to quote Napoleon: "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

    Let 'em take the flak.

    Another gem from Le Francais:

    vive le difference!

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  29. Old Left says:
    @Anonymous
    I like the wordplay. But the vixtim thesis is a rehash of female HYSTERICS.

    Women were always banned from politics and most all other management positions on the basis of hysterics. They will always get sidetracked by hysteria and replace the original work mission with a new more important mission based on hysterics. Modern SJWism is just the latest incarnation of the dynamic.

    Hysterics. You hit it on the nose.

    And what’s going to come of this? The sexual equivalent of Prohibition, which was also driven by elite white female hysteria. Expect to see the ban on workplace dating vastly extended.

    Concurrently, you’re going to see more internet porn addiction (if that’s possible), more prostitution, and more men finding solace in bromances and outright homosexuality. And an acceleration of the white demographic implosion.

    I sometimes wonder whether the WASP male drive to colonize the farthest reaches of the world didn’t come from a pressing desire to get away from their women. Too bad they never actually succeeded.

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  30. Wilkey says:
    @Anonymous
    At what point, Steve, are you going to admit that the cult of the victim in modern society ultimately derives from the Christian valorisation of Jesus, and then an assortment of martyr-saints?
    In no other world religion do you see the glorification of martyrs to such an extent. Shia Islam, yes, but it's not much of a global religion.

    “At what point, Steve, are you going to admit that the cult of the victim in modern society ultimately derives from the Christian valorisation of Jesus, and then an assortment of martyr-saints?”

    Nah. 2,000 years of Christianity and, not coincidentally, the cult of victimhood only arises with the introduction of audiovisual mass media.

    The ways in which audiovisual media have altered our beliefs and behaviors are too numerous to count, but it is especially influential with regard to politics and sex. Prior to its invention how many political movements arose over concern for The Other? Abolition is about the only one that comes to mind, and that was a serious crime nothing like the random, ridiculous shit that sparks social movements nowadays. 100+ years ago Americans were happy to, say, entirely ban immigration from China. Today a huge % of us are manipulated by the mass media into supporting the invasion of our country by parasitic foreigners.

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    You're forgetting literary Evil Seducers like Lovelace in Clarissa, Steerforth in David Copperfield, and the countless 1890s ballads (beloved of Florence King's granny) where a bird in a gilded cage was more to be pitied than censured for a man was the cause of it all.
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  31. Eagle Eye says:
    @Lurker
    But the western/European world has been Christian for at least 1000 years, and longer than that in parts. All this victim bollocks really only got started within living memory - post WW2.

    But the western/European world has been Christian for at least 1000 years, and longer than that in parts. All this victim bollocks really only got started within living memory – post WW2.

    That’s precisely the point. As Christianity fades from our culture, the same themes and memes resurface from the collective subconscious, this time as dangerous “free radicals” unmoored from any structured religious doctrine (“teaching”).

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  32. @Wilkey
    "At what point, Steve, are you going to admit that the cult of the victim in modern society ultimately derives from the Christian valorisation of Jesus, and then an assortment of martyr-saints?"

    Nah. 2,000 years of Christianity and, not coincidentally, the cult of victimhood only arises with the introduction of audiovisual mass media.

    The ways in which audiovisual media have altered our beliefs and behaviors are too numerous to count, but it is especially influential with regard to politics and sex. Prior to its invention how many political movements arose over concern for The Other? Abolition is about the only one that comes to mind, and that was a serious crime nothing like the random, ridiculous shit that sparks social movements nowadays. 100+ years ago Americans were happy to, say, entirely ban immigration from China. Today a huge % of us are manipulated by the mass media into supporting the invasion of our country by parasitic foreigners.

    You’re forgetting literary Evil Seducers like Lovelace in Clarissa, Steerforth in David Copperfield, and the countless 1890s ballads (beloved of Florence King’s granny) where a bird in a gilded cage was more to be pitied than censured for a man was the cause of it all.

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  33. @Anon
    Why not sign yourself, like I do sometimes? It's a method open to abuse but not generally abused here that I've seen.

    RSDB

    That’s a good suggestion, but there still won’t be an easy-to-follow comment trail like there is with the comments of non-anonymous commenters.

    (not a complaint, don’t want to get in trouble with our kind host, Just discussion!).

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    If you want you can find all the comments I actually signed by searching for "RSDB". When I first started commenting here I signed all my comments, then I dropped off a bit. It's true this doesn't leave a reliable trail, but as I understand the lady anon above she didn't want such a trail, at least on this topic.

    RSDB
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  34. @Erik Sieven
    "On the one hand, they get to brag how HOT they are/were and men just couldn’t resist them. They turned the head of every man.

    On the other hand, they get to lament about their vicitmhood at the hands of these misogynist men (whose crime seems to be they liked women too much). Rape!"

    There is something similar going on with males who enjoy talking about these rape stories.

    On the one hand it depicts males in general as dangerous predators, which many people find attractive. So a male talking about those things can imagine himself in that role, especially when talking with women. There is simply something sexual in the air.

    On the other hand a male can act like a righteous people having concern for the poor victims.

    Also I think this combination of victim and hero is at the core of the antiracist sentiment. People love strong winners. But they even love more strong winners who have problems to overcome, injustice to suffer. Thats why white people love black people. They love them for being tough, beating up everybody else etc. - only thing needed is the myth that there are somehow disadvantaged, which makes their victories only sweeter.

    Of course it’s also, and in a very banal way, just a chance to finally out some really juicy gossip.

    I don’t like gossip, but I have to admit this kind of stuff about some very familiar figures, some of whom I admire, some of whom I loathe, is awfully interesting.

    “The Dalai Lama seduced a waitress”, “Osama Bin Laden made a pass at a Western journalist”, “JK Rowling sent a salacious email to a fan” — I made these up, and it makes me a little sick to even write such stuff, but if they were true, they’d be interesting… And it would take down these rulers of my world a notch…

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  35. Olorin says:
    @Jon Halpenny
    I'm starting to believe there is a rebellion of Gentile women against powerful, entitled Jewish men. The latest is the allegations against Al Franken. Also, Kathy Griffin has been ripping into Andy Cohen and Harvey Levin.

    And nobody is accusing the ladies of anti-semitism.

    I’m starting to believe there is a rebellion of Gentile women against powerful, entitled Jewish men.

    Precisely this.

    Also, some of these females are getting their first whiff of why traditionalist men and women hold the beliefs they do about sexuality, relations between the sexes, and such.

    I’m willing to sacrifice the careers of degenerates like Weinstein to give the ladies enough rope of resentment and regret to hang their former whorish selves.

    The big open question at present is whether Gentile men will step into the breach, nod in a courtly way, and offer a manly hand to invite her into then lead the waltz down from the gallows.

    Rather than the present moment being Peak Insanity, it could be the turning of an essential corner.

    Sibelius’s “Valse Triste” methinks.

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    And I think Rose McGowan has taken the role of 'Joan of Arc' in the Gentile women's rebellion. She has forced Lena Dunham to make a grovelling apology. Lena had been defending a co-ethnic, Murray Miller, against rape allegations.
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  36. @Dave from Oz
    As an Aussie, I am very proud that Cate Blanchette has not climbed on the victimhood train. Cate's secret weapon, of course, is that she actually can act.

    I agree, I am constantly impressed by her.

    And the 2006 film Notes on a Scandal was wildly entertaining. Cheers!

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  37. ia says:

    The god is “human rights” fellas. Originally, it looked like Thomas Jefferson and Voltaire. Then it morphed into Gandhi and Martin Luther King. Apparently, the god has once again metamorphosized. This time into a beetle-faced, pregnant hermaphrodite. Most likely black or brown.

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  38. @Olorin

    I’m starting to believe there is a rebellion of Gentile women against powerful, entitled Jewish men.
     
    Precisely this.

    Also, some of these females are getting their first whiff of why traditionalist men and women hold the beliefs they do about sexuality, relations between the sexes, and such.

    I'm willing to sacrifice the careers of degenerates like Weinstein to give the ladies enough rope of resentment and regret to hang their former whorish selves.

    The big open question at present is whether Gentile men will step into the breach, nod in a courtly way, and offer a manly hand to invite her into then lead the waltz down from the gallows.

    Rather than the present moment being Peak Insanity, it could be the turning of an essential corner.

    Sibelius's "Valse Triste" methinks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjPb_apG_NQ

    And I think Rose McGowan has taken the role of ‘Joan of Arc’ in the Gentile women’s rebellion. She has forced Lena Dunham to make a grovelling apology. Lena had been defending a co-ethnic, Murray Miller, against rape allegations.

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  39. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @European-American
    That’s a good suggestion, but there still won’t be an easy-to-follow comment trail like there is with the comments of non-anonymous commenters.

    (not a complaint, don’t want to get in trouble with our kind host, Just discussion!).

    If you want you can find all the comments I actually signed by searching for “RSDB”. When I first started commenting here I signed all my comments, then I dropped off a bit. It’s true this doesn’t leave a reliable trail, but as I understand the lady anon above she didn’t want such a trail, at least on this topic.

    RSDB

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