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One of the striking aspects of this decade is how much resentment has built up among the humorless against the humorful. It’s of course analogous to Current Year people feeling oppressed by, say, the great medical innovators of the recent past who saved millions of lives, demanding that their portraits be taken down from medical schools walls.

From the New York Times opinion section:

How We Went From ‘Soup Nazis’ to Real Nazis
And why ‘yadda, yadda, yadda’ won’t cut it anymore.

By Randy Laist
Mr. Laist is a professor of English and an essayist.

But where is he based?

Oct. 7, 2019

If you watch “The Handmaid’s Tale” on basic-subscription Hulu, the fraught dystopian narrative is periodically interrupted with advertisements, one of which promotes “Seinfeld” episodes available on the company’s streaming service….

I watched the 1980s movie version of The Handmaid’s Tale with Robert Duvall but don’t remember much about it other than it was over after only a couple of hours, fortunately. The current TV series is equally bad, but it just drags on forever…

The show is basically Harem Porn for women, right? It’s about how sexy it would be if a few tyrannical men imposed polygamy on the women of America. No, I mean, it’s about how awful it would be. Awful awful awful.

… The characters in “Seinfeld” occupy a sheltered, privileged outpost at the end of history. … The end of the 20th century was coinciding with a new era of American consumerist hegemony, where the only Nazis were “soup Nazis,” where the only problems left to agonize over were “first-world problems,” and where any committed political or ideological point of view was correspondingly irrelevant, tone-deaf or simply uncool. …

Films like “Pulp Fiction” and “The Truman Show” exemplified the ironic sensibility, as did other television shows like “The Simpsons,” publications like The Onion and even the popularity of post-structural semantic theory on college campuses. …

Flash-forward several eventful decades, to Gilead. We now sing bitter songs of experience. Post-9/11, post-Charlottesville and post-El Paso, comic irony is not only tone-deaf and uncool, but also complicit with the kind of evil that flourishes outside the solipsistic bubble of Jerry’s apartment. Our millennial co-workers are correct to fault Generation X with fetishizing a worldview that is politically impotent, that represents a dead-end philosophically and aesthetically, and that is steeped in white, male, upper-class privilege. …

When Fred and Serena Waterford are arrested for war crimes at the end of the third season of “The Handmaid’s Tale,” no one is laughing …

Indeed.

For iSteve Completists, here’s something I wrote in 1993:

In the news: Senator Charged with Humor Harassment

WASHINGTON, D.C. — “Practically every evening for a month in 1978, the Senator would come into my office and close the door,” tearfully recounted a former campaign worker. “He’d look me over slyly, then ask, ‘What’s green and skates?’ I’d answer, ‘I don’t know, Senator.’ And he’d chortle, ‘Peggy Phlegm!'”

“I was sitting on the men’s room toilet,” recalled another one-time staffer. “Finding me trapped there, Senator Noland stood outside my stall for 20 minutes telling me jokes like, ‘What did the snail say when it climbed on the back of the tortoise?”

“YA-HOO!”‘”

Washington has been rocked by accusations by two dozen former employees and acquaintances that Senator Edmund Noland, (D-Alaska), who was re-elected in 1998 under the slogan “Serious Times Require a Serious Senator,” made unwanted humor attempts. Although Congress exempted itself from the Humor Harassment Act of 1997, the revelations have already led to demands for public hearings on the scandal involving the man previously admired as the dean of the New Earnestness.

“It’s not about humor, it’s about power,” explained humor harassment expert Dr. Malachi Bismarck, “The power to inflict your personality on your helpless, cringing underlings.”

One victim of the Senator’s unwanted humor attempts admitted, “Sure, sometimes he told good jokes. But, who can remember the funny ones? It’s the painfully embarrassing stinkers that haunt you to the grave.”

A former aide revealed how his hero-worship had turned to horror. “I went to work for him because of his thought-provoking speeches against racism, the deficit, nuclear winter, global warming, and the coming ice age.” But a shrouded side of his idol emerged during a routine 1994 hearing on an Air Force training program for pilots from Spain, when Senator Noland leaned over and whispered to his aide, “I hear the handbook is called ‘How to Make the Spanish Fly.’ . . . Get it? Spanish fly! Hnnh? Hnnh? Get it?” and heartily elbowed his aghast assistant.

When asked about the incident, the Senator would only comment, “Some people, they just don’t get it.”

“The Senator would tell me how Jesus and St. Peter are playing golf and Jesus keeps trying to hit just a 5-wedge like Arnold Palmer does on this long 240 foot par 7, but he can’t hit it far enough, so he walks on the water to get his ball out of the lake, and so this golfer behind asks, ‘Who does he think he is, Jesus Christ?'” recalled one time aide Nick Hill. “Sure, I laughed then, but Dr. Bismarck’s Humor Victims Support Group has helped me see how degrading it was. Why is it supposed to be funny when St. Peter says, ‘No, He is Jesus Christ, He just thinks He’s Arnold Palmer?’ I mean, who is this Arnold Palmer person?”

“The Senator relished fake dog-doo and squirting boutonnieres,” recollected a Greenpeace lobbyist, a longtime political ally. “We Beltway oldtimers had to warn the younger ones not to meet with him alone on April 1st. Then, there were his dialect jokes: he’d start off with the appropriate Scottish or French accent or whatever, but would inevitably slide back to his all purpose Irish brogue, complete with ‘Faith and begorrah,’ by the punchline. That is, when he could remember the punchline. I don’t know how many times he told me about the dyslexic agnostic who lies awake at night wondering, ‘Is there a God?'”

The Senator’s friend, Washington lawyer Jack Kravits, contended, “It’s not like he’s the only closet cornball in Washington: there’s a Supreme Court Justice, for instance, who annually tells his clerks:

Knock knock.
Who’s there?
Roe v. Wade.
Roe v. Wade who?
Roe v. Wade? Who cares? As long as we cross this river somehow!

“Which is, now that I think about it, probably the most cogent defense possible of the logic of the Court’s compromise abortion decision in Reproductive Services v. Casey.”

Senator Noland’s chief of staff, Mardi Ames, defended her boss: “He’s only being singled out because he outreached to the humor-resistant community years before the humorless won recognition as a legally protected minority. If he had hired only humorful people, they’d have just razzed him back instead of brooding upon it for decades.” Ms. Ames asked, “Is it fair to depict a man’s life as if all his jokes were duds?”

When asked for an example of the Senator’s wanted humor attempts, she offered, “Well, let’s see . . . oh, yes, there was the one about the three strings who walk into a bar and the first string says . . . Uh, well, maybe not that one . . . Look, can I get back to you on this?”

A sense of betrayal is growing among Noland’s longtime supporters. Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist Nina Lindblad lamented, “Repeatedly, my friends and I have celebrated some seemingly serious politician, only to be cruelly disillusioned. Are we utter fools? Do we know nothing of human nature? Well, of course not, so it must be society’s fault, or maybe the media’s.”

Humorism activist Bismarck summed up, “We are not against humor. Everybody wants wanted humor, but nobody wants unwanted humor. It’s that simple.”

Just before presstime, Senator Noland issued a statement that he had been diagnosed as a victim of Humor Addiction Malady (HAM), and was checking himself into a clinic in order “To learn if my alleged behavior (which I deny completely but personally apologize for if it offended anyone) stems from my history of childhood sports abuse. After 50 years of repression, I have only now recovered my buried memory of how my father made me play Little League. The experts are finally realizing the terrible toll taken by ‘Right Field Syndrome.’ I hope my accusers can somehow find it in their hearts to forgive my Dad.”

By Steve Sailer
Enter Stage Right, February 1993
Reprinted in National Review, 2/23/98

 
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  1. dunkel says:

    “When Fred and Serena Waterford are arrested for war crimes at the end of the third season of “The Handmaid’s Tale,” no one is laughing …”

    Best laugh I had in quite a while.

  2. Steve, I’m amazed at how much top-grade commentary you crank out.

    But you have to admit that it helps for the NYT to provide a flood of fish-in-a-barrel targets!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  3. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    where the only Nazis were “soup Nazis,”

    There was a whole Seinfeld episode about Schindler’s List, one of the points of which was that you can’t compel reverence. The Simpsons made this point too, in the episode where Homer has to sit through a film of car accidents narrated by Phil Hartman after getting a DUI or something. Homer laughs: “It’s funny because I don’t know him”.

    When Fred and Serena Waterford are arrested for war crimes at the end of the third season of “The Handmaid’s Tale,” no one is laughing

    Play it at a black high school and there’ll probably be people laughing.

  4. This overwrought prose is so purple and so maudlin it is laughable that it ended up in the opinion section of a major newspaper. It is doubly laughable that it comes not from the pen of the autistic-programmed-teen mind of a Greta Thornberg-child but from a so-called professor of English.

    He’s writing like he’s been paid to be a stuck-up emotional vapor-lady that some Bill Murray-type is messing with until she screams and runs out in a huff and/or faints. No wonder the Gen Z white dudes are so edgy—-they have the perfect foils in these weak, pathetic, skilless fools.

    The Left’s propagandists used to be good. Now they’re just talentless drama queens. Bad stock characters in their own dramas.

  5. Kronos says:

    Just the sight of all that toxic masculinity.

    Well I never!

  6. Maybe I’m just a typical representative of a white, male, upper (middle) class Gen Xer, but Prof. Laist is a frivolous ass.

    “We now sing bitter songs of experience.” How pompous. What bitter experiences has Prof. Laist experienced? As far as I can tell, his hardship is limited to watching ads for 1990s comedy shows.

    The characters on Seinfeld ultimately had the self awareness to realize how shallow and narcissistic they were. Prof. Laist and his cohorts could learn something from Seinfeld in that regard…

    • Replies: @SFG
    , @anon
    , @Olorin
    , @Olorin
  7. Anonymous[119] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    “Handmaid” is funnier than “Seinfeld” for my dollar… More pertinent to today was the Bryan Cranston/”anti-dentite” situation. But there are probably dozens more examples from that posthumously bizarre series. “Seinfeld” should be recut as a chilling allegory of Current Year for Netflix, Amazon, HBO, or Starz. Exit question– can a network named “Starz” ever be prestige TV?

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  8. anon[674] • Disclaimer says:

    The original Puritans made friends with the Indians in 1610.
    NeoPuritans will just piss them and everyone else off.

  9. SFG says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Watching Trump win. Lots of lefties think they are living through the early days of the next Nazi regime.

  10. anon[674] • Disclaimer says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    What bitter experiences has Prof. Laist experienced?

    Perhaps he had a relative on the Andrea Dorea the day it sank?

  11. Owen Benjamin did a pretty good takedown of the Soup Nazi episode, basically claiming that it celebrated a group of upper-middle class sociopaths attempting to bully a small business owner, while claiming they were the ones being bullied. But Benjamin’s funny while this guy isn’t.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Hail
    , @silviosilver
  12. The end of the 20th century was coinciding with a new era of American consumerist hegemony, where the only Nazis were “soup Nazis,”

    Once the progressives determined that everyone who disagrees with them is a Nazi, sure, there are going to be a lot of Nazis.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  13. Barnard says:

    The answer to your question appears to be Goodwin College of East Hartford, CT. Is the Times trying to expand their reader base? Doesn’t this seem to be a little lowbrow for them?

  14. @SFG

    Lots of lefties think they are living through the early days of the next Nazi regime.

    True.

    This is because they are fools.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  15. One major league thing this article illustrates is just how much of the Left’s world view is shaped by fiction. This “professor” (lol) is literally citing fictional dramas as part of his argument that Nazis are coming/here. And he’s deadly serious.

    These people are so brainwashed and out of touch with reality they think fiction=real life. This is why they think women are just as physically tough as men—because they see it on TV and in their movies all the time. This is how they “know” patriarchy is bad—because that’s what’s in their movies.

    I pity most of these folks, they need a deprogramming. And I do mean that quite literally.

  16. newrouter says:

    >Post-9/11, post-Charlottesville and post-El Paso<

    Simpler version: 9/11 + whatever lefty outrage.

  17. Someone has been listening to Bret Easton Ellis Podcast. Blaming it on a numb Gen X worldview. And using the word “aesthetically”.

    But, he may have a point. Is longing for the 1990s the new Norman Rockwell nostalgia? 50 million New Americans ago.

  18. CAL2 says:
    @SFG

    Early days? They believe they are in the midst of Trumpen Fuhrer Reich. They are nervously looking at Starbucks waiting for the tap on the shoulder to send them to the camps.

  19. Anonymous[747] • Disclaimer says:

    When Jews were on the up and up, they used irreverence, mockery, and sarcasm to attack the system.

    Now that they are on top, they see humor as a threat as the Power is most vulnerable when people laugh at it. Humor is now okay ONLY when the targets are approved by the Power.

    Also, in a world that pushes globo-homo as main agenda, laughter has to be suppressed because our natural inclination upon seeing such stuff is to LOL. 50 genders indeed.

  20. Anonymous[747] • Disclaimer says:
    @SFG

    Watching Trump win. Lots of lefties think they are living through the early days of the next Nazi regime.

    Because they get the news from the media and academia dominated by Jews.

    Ironically, the most nazi-like people are now the Jews who are totally tribalist in their foreign policy and ignited wars in Middle East and North Africa that killed close to a million. Jewish power also uses globalism to expose all nations other than Israel to demographic invasion and erasure. And of course, Jewish power allied with ISIS and Nazi types(in Ukraine) to spread terror and mayhem. And AIPAC rallies are America’s Nuremberg Rallies.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  21. @R.G. Camara

    At least this guy has slightly more widespread taste in media. The average lefty has a worldview based on Harry Potter, Star Wars, The Hunger Games and various forms of comic books.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  22. SFG says:
    @Chief Seattle

    Well…it makes sense though, people tend to be nostalgic for eras that aren’t that far away. To have actual memories of the 50s now you’d have to be, what, almost 70? A lot more people can relate to the 90s (if liberal, or late Millennial) or 80s (if conservative, or early Millennial/late Gen X). Nostalgia for childhood, when you didn’t have any responsibility, or teenage years, when you didn’t have any responsibility and got laid, is a powerful thing.

    I don’t think anyone thinks about the 20s anymore except for drink enthusiasts and Call of Cthulhu players.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
  23. Daniel H says:

    A former aide revealed how his hero-worship had turned to horror. “I went to work for him because of his thought-provoking speeches against racism, the deficit, nuclear winter, global warming,

    Global warming in 1993!!!. Whoa!

    • Replies: @Anon
  24. @Kevin O'Keeffe

    They have been programmed by three things:

    1. Relentless Nazi propaganda in Movies & TV shows.

    2. Very soft physical lives.

    3. Broken homes, most especially with lack of fathers.

    Such people are bound to extreme flights of fancy about what Nazism actually is.

  25. anon[305] • Disclaimer says:

    Needed stat:

  26. That old saying comes to mind, “Fuck ’em if they can’t take a joke.”

    • Replies: @anon
  27. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Calvin Hobbes

    I don’t get why he continually goes to the Backward for fodder. It’s more like shooting puppies in a barrel because they crapped on the rug. Crapping is what puppies do. You do not let them on your good rugs.

    My recommendation would be to subscribe to some more based papers, hobby magazines and a lot of free trade magazines. Jump on them when they let out some PC or woke horseshit because the humor value is a lot higher and it might actually do some good.

  28. anon[305] • Disclaimer says:
    @Enemy of Earth

    That old saying comes to mind, “Fuck ’em if they can’t take a joke.”

    You don’t have consent!

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  29. @R.G. Camara

    Completely shaped by fiction, saw a Time magazine the local grocery a few weeks ago and they had Margaret Atwood on the cover touting her as some kind of far seeing prophet, although I didn’t have time to read the nonsense on the inside. Got that, everything now is exactly like her silly novel from the 80’s, why all women currently are enslaved breeding machines, aren’t they?

  30. Seinfeld never claimed its characters to be upstanding people or people we should look up to. That’s why they were arrested in the last episode and put on trial for everything they did throughout the series. The whole show was a statement on the petty things that we obsess over in the modern age. “No hugging, no learning.” It wasn’t an endorsement of modernity. Just a statement on how hilariously ridiculous it is.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  31. Logan says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    where the only Nazis were “soup Nazis,”

    S3 E19 “The Limo” was all about Jerry and George being mistaken for the secret leaders of the Aryan Union..

  32. The end of the 20th century was coinciding with a new era of American consumerist hegemony, where the only Nazis were “soup Nazis,” where the only problems left to agonize over were “first-world problems,”

    Well, the guy’s got a point here. As Peak Stupidity wrote about in Christmas and Communism, the early/mid 1990’s were a time during which even New Yorkers (that’s the city) made fun of Communism. The end of the Cold War was quite the relief for a lot of people.

    … and where any committed political or ideological point of view was correspondingly irrelevant, tone-deaf or simply uncool. …

    That’s what happens when you make a show about nothing. Please, Mr. Laist, buy a 2 dollar set of ripped/burned Chinese CD’s or get Netlfix, and watch all the shows. How can it NOT be funny?!

    OK, here’s a bit more from that episode:

  33. anon[305] • Disclaimer says:
    @Unladen Swallow

    Completely shaped by fiction

    Handmaid’s Tale is required reading in a lot of high school AP literature classes.

  34. @SFG

    I don’t think anyone thinks about the 20s anymore except for drink enthusiasts and Call of Cthulhu players.

    I think about the 20’s. The 2020’s.

  35. @Dave Pinsen

    There was a whole Seinfeld episode about Schindler’s List, one of the points of which was that you can’t compel reverence.

    There were two.

    Seinfeld revisited this theme with their send up of all the acclaim for The English Patient.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_English_Patient_(Seinfeld)#Critical_response

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    , @njguy73
  36. Steve, I didn’t subscribe to NR way back then (did for a coupla years later on in the ’90’s). That is some great stuff, and I want to know if you made up at least some of those jokes in there.

    BTW, what’s kind of ironic to me about this guy’s article is that he’s complaining about commercials for Seinfeld episodes in the middle of this modern PC TV show. I have complained of pretty much the opposite. As I used to catch some old Seinfeld on TBS at the hotel on business trips (they seem to have cut them all out), my complaint was, that even with the sound down, I hated the damn commericals pushing their hardcore diversity/PC crap on me. I had to read a book, and look up once in a while to see if the show had come back on.

    .

    I am way ahead of this guy, as I wrote “Can’t even watch Seinfeld anymore” 2 1/2 years ago.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
    , @theMann
  37. @Chief Seattle

    But, he may have a point. Is longing for the 1990s the new Norman Rockwell nostalgia? 50 million New Americans ago.

    I like the commenter on the NYT column who says GenX needs to step up and build a better version of our grandparents’ world and create a more egalitarian society, etc.

    My first thought was, “Hey bro, I’m all for sending 200 million+ paperwork Americans BACK.”

  38. @Unladen Swallow

    Got that, everything now is exactly like her silly novel from the 80’s, why all women currently are enslaved breeding machines, aren’t they?

    Uh, with abortion and divorce available on demand I’d say that Western society is the complete opposite of the one shown in The Handmaid’s Tale.

  39. BenKenobi says:
    @Senator Brundlefly

    I recently watched the Seinfeld finale again, and the trial reminded me of the Current Year’s process of getting “cancelled” — every single thing you’ve ever said and done is dredged up for ritual public shaming.

    • Replies: @Senator Brundlefly
  40. Neoconned says:

    I often say “I miss the 90s so bad”…..& I mean it.

    These new people are like Maos Red Guards. Only they make up their own dogma as they go and there is no coherent centralized leadership.

    I wonder how many viewers se secretly wish for a Handmaid’s Tale type scenario to really happen or a Big Love type Mormon thing…..

    • Replies: @Kronos
  41. But where is he based?

    Reference:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/anti-wallism

    Writers these days never live anywhere, they are always “based” somewhere. Unlike hitmen, however, they are always “based in” some place, never “based out of” anywhere. Ice Pick Willie is based out of Philly, while Erica X Eisen is based in Bishek.

    I must say, though, that Ms. Eisen being “based in” Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan is a new one.

    DEAR ABBY:

    I’m a young woman working as a freelance journalist, and I recently moved to a ‘developing country’ in Central Asia. For the most part the people here are warm and friendly, but living in my building there is a regional celebrity (from a neighboring country) who has trouble respecting personal boundaries. This man introduced himself by asking to see my “bobs and vagene.” I pretended not to understand, and tried to avoid him. At our next encounter he said he could “see my horns” and threatened to throw me down a well. Please advise.

    BASED IN BISHKEK

    [MORE]

  42. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Logan

    Right – I remembered that after I left that comment. It’s like this guy hasn’t even seen all the episodes.

  43. @Logan

    Wasn’t it the Aryan Alliance? (I’m guessing a combination of the National Alliance and Aryan Nations). Boy I watched too much TV growing up.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  44. The show is basically Harem Porn for women, right? It’s about how sexy it would be if a few tyrannical men imposed polygamy on the women of America. No, I mean, it’s about how awful it would be. Awful awful awful.

    LOL.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
  45. Jake says:

    Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David should make a Seinfeld mini-series about the characters 20 years after the show ended, dealing with the total insanity of this era.

    Just think about it: Kramer converted a lesbian, which in today’s world makes him an arch-villain. Kramer dealing with multiple genders could be great fun.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  46. @anon

    Their eyes said, “yes.”

  47. Ibound1 says:

    How dare you interrupt his daydream of standing up to Trump’s Fertility police and his bravely helping a woman escape copulation with Mike Pence? How dare you run any commercials at all? I mean my lord, he is fantasizing. Just stop!

  48. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    Seinfeld was on the air during the first wave of political correctness, so it had shows riffing on it. Which makes it more relevant to today, not less.

  49. Mr. Anon says:

    Flash-forward several eventful decades, to Gilead. We now sing bitter songs of experience.

    Does this hamster realize that A Handmaid’s Tale is fiction?

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  50. When Fred and Serena Waterford are arrested for war crimes at the end of the third season of “The Handmaid’s Tale,” no one is laughing watching …

    FIFY. No one is watching because they are busy scanning through the 351 channels looking for re-runs of Seinfeld and The Office.

  51. @Unladen Swallow

    all women currently are enslaved breeding machines

    Yes! And meanwhile the OTHER terrible thing going on is that those very same white men are all incels. It’s quantum bigotry.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  52. @BenKenobi

    With how uncomfortable he is with modern PC culture and how unwaveringly ideological he is with his ideals of what comedy is, I’m fairly sure Jerry Seinfeld actually will be “cancelled” eventually. As this Times article indicates, many of the things brought up in the finale trial would ironically end up being actual evidence against him. There’s just too many examples of him not taking our modern religion seriously enough (Schindler’s List, handicapped people, Pakistani immigrants, abortion etc etc).

    • Replies: @william munny
  53. Kronos says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Is this further erosion of the Jew card? “Seinfeld” is holy scripture for US Jews and (typically) beyond approach. With third world anti-Israel/anti-Zionist voters coming to the US is a soft power transfer afoot in the NYT? I’m sure there’ll be something akin to Stalin’s “War on Cosmopolitanism” in the works.

    • LOL: IHTG
  54. I’m guessing this professor isn’t spongeworthy, but he looks normal enough …

    https://2018udlirninternationalsummit.sched.com/speaker/randy_laist.1xsqndii

    Wonder if he has a few beers he might break down and admit to liking F Troop

    • Replies: @Marty
    , @anon
  55. Kronos says:
    @Jake

    They’ed be back in Jail for hate-crime related offenses.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  56. Speaking of Nazis and annoying jokes, there’s this gem:

  57. Kronos says:
    @Neoconned

    Big Love type Mormon thing…..

    Mormon Prophets’ seem like a handful. They appear to be both in reality and fiction retrograde pharisees. It’ll be rather sad to kick my 23rd son off the reservation to protect my flock of women.

  58. Kronos says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    How about “The Rational Male’s Tale?”

  59. These people are funny indeed.

    I am a coach, a teacher, a facilitator — that’s what I do — train: men, women, high or low, tall or short, smokin’ or ghastly ugly . . . to get you to improve, if inflicting myself on your person is what it takes — well, that’s what it takes.

    I am not joe frank or francine, they may do it differently and if that works for them fine . . . but if you come to way — expect to get inflicted if that’s what it takes. No one is holding a gun to your head — don’t want to get inflicted — fine, go elsewhere.

    Don’t like the Senators jokes or the comedian at the club or on the tube . . . make your case

    “Excuse me Senator . . . humor is very funny.” Leave the club, turn the idiot box off . . .

    As for the silliness of handmaid’s tale . . . nothing at the time it was written suggested we are headed for male utopia of obedient women as is clear from the millions of men seeking brief respits of peace at the local pub, club house, ball park or hunting/fishing trip . . .and nothing today provides a moments peace from the constant demands of women dismantling manhood itself —-

    Maybe it’s just my misogyny showing . . .

  60. JohnnyD says:

    I’m pretty sure Mr. Laist was ripping off David Foster Wallace’s famous critique of irony:

    • Replies: @Joseph A.
  61. Alden says:
    @Bragadocious

    Kramer never had a job and lived in a shabby apartment. Constanza was unemployed half the time. Sometimes he lived with his parents, sometimes in a shabby apartment. Jerry had a steady job and lived in a shabby apartment. Elaine had a steady job and lived in a nicely furnished apartment.

    None had much money. None of the men went to college. Elaine might have. Strange definition of upper middle class.

  62. Wait until they figure out on Friends Chandler’s father is played by a woman. It is left unstated in the show whether he is just a drag queen or if he is transgendered, but the show plays it for laughs instead of making it a Very Special Episode. Here is both of Chandler’s parents walking him down the aisle.

    For some reason the time stamp isn’t working, so feel free to skip ahead to 3:05

  63. One of the striking aspects of this decade is how much resentment has built up among the humorless against the humorful.

    You know what drives the humorless even crazier than telling them unsolicited jokes? Just laugh hysterically when they make one of their religious pronouncements like “race is a social construct” or “we have 12 years to save the planet”. Don’t argue, don’t get mad, just laugh and walk away laughing. They really hate that.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Justvisiting
  64. anon[179] • Disclaimer says:
    @Laurence Whelk

    “we have 12 years to save the planet”.

    “12 years? No way! Just a few months! Just a few months! That’s why #EatTheBabies!!”

    Then laugh and walk away.

    • LOL: Laurence Whelk
    • Replies: @Laurence Whelk
    , @Kronos
  65. Joseph A. says: • Website
    @JohnnyD

    I have a pet theory about Jewish dissidence that differs from the dominant reactionary view. I suspect that even secular Jews have maintained their ancestral aversion to idolatry, and their destruction of (host) culture may have at its root a disgust with the idolatrous worship of false gods (values). We can see this even among entertainers in our own age . . . from the crass comedy of Lenny Bruce to the poetic songwriting of Bob Dylan. That’s not to say that group-interest is absent, but I don’t think that it’s enough to explain the peculiarity of the rabbis’ children. The post-war counter-culture was foremost a spiritual rejection of mass, consumerist society. Shredding taboos — those idols of the tribe — may simply be a consequence from reciting Shema Yisrael over millennia.

    If my theory holds any water, then we should expect to see more Jews veer “right’ against the insufferable stupidity of the “woke” (what a misnomer). As this is happening, we should expect our fellow right-wingers to attribute the change to ruthless Jewish calculation — “oh, they’re ditching [China, Hispanics, Africans, whatever] now because they realize that [X] is “bad for the Jews.” It can’t be that intellectuals actually discover things about the world through experience.

    Anyway, I disagree with the Wallace character above (in the video) about irony’s (especially Jewish irony!) not having any redemptive value. Simply acting as a cleanser to rid falsehood is morally hygienic. “Postmodernism” can be an alarm that wakes people from dogmatic slumber — and jolts them from being programmed tools and useful idiots (such as the ridiculously named “woke” zombies of today). A man who knows that he knows nothing is much farther along the road to wisdom than someone who smugly and foolishly believes he is wise as he drowns in trendy false opinions. The nihilist who doesn’t care is a possible result, but at least he won’t enthusiastically sign up for the Red Guards to enforce terror and lies on his neighbor (and in good conscience, too).

  66. @Alden

    Substitute “cosmopolitan” for upper-middle class. That gets closer to Benjamin’s point.

    • Replies: @Alden
  67. Marty says:
    @Known Fact

    Disagree. Looks like he’d be interested in BBC.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
  68. Tusk says:

    The question is not where is he based, but simply, is he based? Unfortunately, the answer is no.

  69. There was an episode where George and Jerry were mistaken for actual Nazis, not just the soup kind.

  70. njguy73 says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    And why did Seinfeld make the Schindler’s List joke? To pay respect to a fan.

    To keep his spirits up on the somber set, Spielberg said he would watch “Seinfeld” episodes and talk to Robin Williams on the phone once a week. “He would call and do 15 minutes of stand-up on the phone,” Spielberg recalled. “He never said bye. He hung up on the loudest laugh you gave him.”

    https://variety.com/2018/film/vpage/steven-spielberg-liam-neeson-schindlers-list-25-anniversary-1202789948/

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  71. @Marty

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that

  72. @Harry Baldwin

    Actually, they determined that during the 1930s.

  73. @anon

    I’m looking for a good “Save the Planet; Eat the Babies” t-shirt.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  74. anon[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @Known Fact

    I’m guessing this professor isn’t spongeworthy, but he looks normal enough …

    Looks like he loops Brokeback Mountain on Netflix sometimes. Only when he’s alone, of course.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that!

  75. Hail says: • Website

    Post-9/11, post-Charlottesville and post-El Paso, comic irony is not only tone-deaf and uncool

    Will he also call for Black comedians and comedic actors to be banned from performing, because of the Black crime rate?

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
  76. @Laurence Whelk

    I’m looking for a good “Save the Planet; Eat the Babies” t-shirt.

    This is close
    https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/6205850-save-the-planet-eat-the-babies

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  77. Hail says: • Website

    Professor Randy Laist

    – ca. 1976: Born[?] and raised in Connecticut;
    1994: Graduates high school in New Haven County, Connecticut;
    – BA, English and Psychology, University of Connecticut, 1998;
    – MA, English, University of Connecticut, 2002;
    – PhD, English, University of Connecticut, 2009;
    2010: Hired by Goodwin College, Connecticut (to present).

    He was of prime Seinfeld-watching age during Seinfeld‘s run (1990-1998?).

    An academia “lifer.”

  78. Alden says:
    @Bragadocious

    Ok

    Off topic an extremely well dressed black couple in a nice house is on TV urging everyone to join Triple A

  79. nebulafox says:
    @SFG

    I am darkly amused at how they figure they’d stack up against the real Nazis-largely WWI vets, many of whom served jail time for political reasons, who didn’t have qualms about killing people who annoyed them, as opposed to posting childlike Tweets.

    Most likely a revived, empowered Hitler would have wondered how the hell *these* effete haute bourgeoisie could have become more globally successful than Lenin’s disciples. This as he dictates the purge lists, muttering…

  80. Anon[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Daniel H

    Global warming is present (under the name “global warming”) in Sid Meier’s Civilization, published in 1991. It occurs whenever the amount of generic “pollution” in the world grows too large, causing the terrain in most squares to shift to hotter terrain. (Tundra -> fertile grassland; plains -> desert; that kind of thing.)

  81. @The Wild Geese Howard

    That’s precisely why we are assailed with garbage like The Handmaid’s Tale.

  82. nebulafox says:
    @Alden

    Kramer’s life was every man’s fantasy: loads of money and good sex with little work. And the freedom to act however you whimsically please, no matter how wacky, and pursue your pet projects over getting a real job. Hence the word “fantasy”, at least for 99.9% of men.

    Who needs fancy apartments or clothes when you have that? If women didn’t desire them, most men wouldn’t spend loads of money or time on them.

  83. Hail says: • Website
    @Bragadocious

    bully a small business owner, while claiming they were the ones being bullied

    Isn’t there a Polish proverb for that?

    • Replies: @Shmendrix
  84. Mr Reader says:

    Speaking of resentment, you would know resentment very well. You’re one of the most resentful people.

  85. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @njguy73

    I haven’t listened to Howard Stern since he went to satellite, but I remember him commenting on Robin Williams’s stand-up 15 or 20 years ago, and saying how desperate Williams seemed. He was a troubled man. Too bad Spielberg or one of his other fans couldn’t get him help.

  86. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Alden

    Kramer had a (minimum wage) job at H&H Bagels, but he was on strike for most of the show’s run. He didn’t have a college degree. George did, because once when he was unemployed and his mother suggested he take the civil service exam he said, “I’m a college graduate!”.

    Jerry’s character started making decent money later in the series, buying his father a Cadillac.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  87. And the article Steve referenced will be part of a historical collection called,”Why The Purification Was Necessary”.

  88. Moses says:

    The show is basically Harem Porn for women, right? It’s about how sexy it would be if a few tyrannical men imposed polygamy on the women of America. No, I mean, it’s about how awful it would be. Awful awful awful.

    Lol. I see what you did there Steve. And you’re right.

  89. El Dato says:

    Mr. Laist is not wrong in bemoaning the forced seriousification of everything.

    Little does he comprehend that he is writing in the official organ of the Ministry of Seriousification (or MiniSerious). Or does he?

    It’s a bit bizarre how 9/11 (Anthrax? anyone?) is juxtaposed to the chanting Nazis clownshow:

    Flash-forward several eventful decades, to Gilead. We now sing bitter songs of experience. Post-9/11, post-Charlottesville and post-El Paso…

    … but it is also possible to identify many examples of instances where “passionate intensity” has been perverted into disturbing manifestations, whether in the form of the Al Qaeda terrorists in 2001 or the chanting Nazis in Charlottesville in 2017.

    But I’m not sure Mr. Laist is serious about this jumping spotlight. Was this a trick to bring the essay to the attention of the editor? Is it similar to denouncing Krushchevism in a Breshnevist paper?

    The end of the 20th century was coinciding with a new era of American consumerist hegemony, where the only Nazis were “soup Nazis,” where the only problems left to agonize over were “first-world problems”

    There is this book.

    …even the popularity of post-structural semantic theory on college campuses. …

    Well, complexified vocabulary for dumb people pretending to attend “the academy” has been a thing since before ’68.

    It is not just historical events that have caused this shift. Our public discourse, increasingly taking place on the internet, also stifles comic irony. When we speak on the internet, we become existentially wedded to the things we say. In face-to-face conversation, there are many ways that I can indicate that I am only playing a role of a person saying these things, that I am just “trying on” an idea in an ironic mode. I can play the popular Gen-X game, “let’s converse as if I believed something I don’t really believe.” In the digital world, however, when I post something, it becomes a part of my “profile.”

    This is why memes exist. But radical left can’t into memes. Memes are dead serious to them and either another reason to start a 5 minute of red hot outrage or something to be deployed as a weapon.

    The posted content becomes an aspect of how I exist in the world, and there is a self-reinforcing effect: I become invested in the self I express through the content I post. I am incentivized to align myself with those words, to close the gap between what I say and who I am, and this closure is fatal to irony, which depends on the self-conscious presence of such a gap.

    If only MiniSerious and its minions stopped dumpster-diving for old tweets!

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Kronos
  90. Post-9/11, post-Charlottesville and post-El Paso….

    Didn’t some pretty horrible, and comparable, things happen in San José, Orlando, San Bernardino, San Francisco, Dayton, and Fort Hood recently? No? Aw, shucks, it’s all so confusing….

  91. Seems Randy Laist has discovered that the entire point of Seinfeld is that the four of them are just the worst people in the world. I believe the term is “Whooooosh!”

  92. Lurker says:

    He who laughs laist . . . . doesn’t laugh at all.

  93. Kronos says:
    @anon

    Saving the planet is always synchronized with US election cycles.

    “2008 is the last year to save the planet!”

    “2016 is the last year to save the planet!”

    “2020 is the last year to save the planet!”

  94. BenKenobi says:
    @Anonymousse

    Sometimes bigotry is a particle.

    Sometimes it’s a wave.

  95. Kronos says:
    @El Dato

    You think there’ll ever be a “statute of limitations” for tweets?

  96. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:

    That ancient English saying of an individual having a ‘charisma by-pass operation’ springs to mind.

  97. Lurker says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Totally agree.

    Many times online a libtard will deploy a clip, a quote, a bit of a cartoon – always a work of fiction – in refutation of some point or observation one is making. Not as an illustration to support, or analogous to, the argument they think they’re making but, quite literally, as the argument itself.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  98. Shmendrix says:
    @Hail

    How exactly did they “bully” the small business owner?? Please explain.

  99. Old Prude says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “Commercials pushing their PC crap”. This. First I had to stop watching Dancing with the Stars as they kept putting increasingly freaking people on the dance floor: A woman with a wooden leg, a transvestite, a dwarf… then, The Voice started down the same sluice. So I started watching Animal Planet, but had to sit through commercials featuring newly wed lesbians driving off in their Subaru. Now the screen remains blank and silent while I watch Moby Dick or The Alamo on the IPad.

  100. In the UK, there’s a bit of counter revolt going on. Here’s some stuff from the Comedy Unleashed club in London:

    • Replies: @Dutch
    , @Dutch
  101. By Randy Laist
    Mr. Laist is a professor of English and an essayist.

    But where is he based?

    He may not be based at all.


    Report in haste
    On Randy Laist
    And leave misplaced
    Where he is based…

    Or is it pronounced Randy Layist? Onomastic harassment!

    Did he really spend 15 years in Storrs?

    Randy Laist =

    Daily rants.
    Dirty anals.
    I, trans lady.

    • Replies: @Hail
  102. Hail says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    Did he really spend 15 years in Storrs? [i.e., Univ. of Connecticut]

    No refunds.

  103. J.Ross says:

    BBC radio right now very iStevey: brainless and apparently twelve-year-old Diane Abbott babbling about what it was like personally for her in her feelings to become the first black (but West Indian when convenient) UK parliamentarian. And how she felt and what it was like for her, herself.
    Each box ticked. A note about her hair (she remembers and describes the style and length). Walking along the hall looking at the White Male Portraits on the Wall. A bit about her family members being present for the vote count: she makes a joke about someone who wasn’t supposed to be there having bribed his way in (ripping up a photo of the Queen too much work). White people were so overwhelmed, so overwhelmed, they just couldn’t believe it.

  104. @The Wild Geese Howard

    Uh, with abortion and divorce available on demand I’d say that Western society is the complete opposite of the one shown in The Handmaid’s Tale.

    Margaret Atwood is from Canada, where legal elective abortion came, also by court order, fifteen years later than in the US. That’s fifteen years of forced breeding.

    If you want to ruin some condescending Canadian lefty’s lunch, just point that out.

    https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/august-2019/decades-later-abortions-in-canada-are-still-hard-to-get/

    https://thewordsonwhat.wordpress.com/2010/06/12/the-coathanger-is-real/

  105. The current TV series is equally bad, but it just drags on forever…

    As a kid, I only watched sports, cartoons, the brainier game shows, and half-hour sitcoms. Hour-long shows, whether “dramas”, crime, westerns or what have you, seemed interminable. That’s too much life to give up. Same with theater movies that exceeded 89 minutes.

    At this time, the (always turgid) miniseries came on the scene. It’s like they were trying to give us a foretaste of purgatory. No thanks!

    I have even less patience with video now. Ten-minute infodocs on YouTube is about it, and the occasional TED Talk.

    Nobody reads books anymore? Why does anyone watch television anymore?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @anon
  106. El Dato says:

    I have the impression many commenters misunderstand.

    The article is not the angry left perspective, it bemoans the angry left perspective.

    Or am I mistaken?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  107. @Reg Cæsar

    My limit is 6 hours of dramas. I watched the first six episodes of Breaking Bad and Mad Men, but that was enough. Okay, I get it, I now know what people are talking about when they talk about those shows. They’re good, but I’m not interested enough in what eventually happens to these people 75 hours later to invest the time.

    I am mostly interested in Origin Stories, which a lot of Real Fans disdain. Let me know how these characters got started, but the subsequent developments aren’t that interesting to me.

    I watched all nine hours of Lord of the Rings, but my interest peaked during the second movie.

    I’d probably watch the rest of the Avengers movies if I could just watch the parts involving Iron Man.

    As for sit-coms, I’ve probably watched 75 episodes of Seinfeld and First Decade Simpsons and maybe 40 episodes of Friends, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and the Larry Sanders Show. The one show I’ve watched all the way through is 30 Rock. I’m sure there are excellent sitcoms today — Modern Family has been terrific the half dozen times I’ve seen it. But the notion that Seinfeld and Simpsons are the co-Number One all time top sitcoms is a view I’m comfortable holding.

  108. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    And of course, Jewish power allied with ISIS

    The great thing about anti-Semitic nutjobs is that they are self-refuting. Joos are the hidden power behind EVERYTHING, even their own worst enemies. Maybe Anon 747 is himself a Jooish plant, sent to make anti-Semites look insane?

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @neutral
  109. @El Dato

    The author tries to have it both ways. He’s presumably a David Foster Wallace fan, who got a lot of love for seemingly denouncing John Updike for white maleness, but DFW was a pretty similar individual to Updike, just less successful with the ladies, and is headed for the same fate.

    • Replies: @black sea
  110. anon55uu says:

    I don’t have a direct hook to this story – maybe the vague one of Israel, which Jerry mentioned at one point on the show – but how on earth did so many “smart” people get caught up in the WeWork disaster? It doesn’t seem to have been mentioned on this blog before or even anywhere on Unz.com (which surprises me). Could this tip things into recession by itself?

  111. @Senator Brundlefly

    I loved the video of Jerry refusing to hug wannabe popstar Kesha on the red carpet. She asked him for a hug and he said no and everyone was confused and assumed he was joking, but he insistently refused. It went viral, and he later said he didn’t know her and didn’t want to hug her, what’s the big deal. I can’t think of another Hollywood guy who would have stood his ground in such a situation.

  112. I’ve lost touch with who owns who in US media? Could this be part of a media war? NYT itself doesn’t seem to own much.

    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/oct/08/the-last-laugh-behind-the-multimillion-dollar-deals-to-buy-old-sitcoms

    last month, Netflix paid over $500m for the rights to stream all of Seinfeld’s 180 episodes globally.

    The sky-high sum for the show about nothing is one of several giant deals in recent months for library rights to legacy shows, representing a new, cash-laden front on the global streaming wars. In July, WarnerMedia outbid Netflix with $425m for all 10 seasons of Friends, which will stream on its forthcoming service HBO Max in spring 2020. A month earlier, Netflix also lost the rights to The Office, one of its most popular shows, to NBCUniversal, who paid $500m to stream the show for five years on its own forthcoming service, Peacock, in 2021. (Netflix will maintain global rights.) And in a deal said to be pushing $1bn, WarnerMedia has secured both the streaming rights (on HBO Max) and broadcast syndication (on TBS) for The Big Bang Theory, the nerd sitcom that ended its run on CBS last year.

  113. @Dave Pinsen

    Some context

    Battle of the Holocausts

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-04-12-mn-45168-story.html

    Money quote:

    Social studies teacher Rose Thornwell called the visit Monday a “media circus” and said: “We haven’t dealt with our own African American holocaust; now we’re getting the Jewish Holocaust up to our eyeballs.”

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  114. @Dave Pinsen

    That was the best part because Elaine was the target demographic for that film.

  115. neutral says:
    @Jack D

    ISIS absolutely benefits Israel. ISIS provides zero practical threats to Israel, as a propaganda tool it is perfect. So no, this “you are insane” argument is utter BS, no rational minded person can ignore the facts on how beneficial ISIS is for Israel.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  116. anon[197] • Disclaimer says:
    @Logan

    That episode was eerily prophetic. The Aryan Union is clearly the Alt Right. The counter-demonstrators are antifa. “O’Brien” is clearly that bastard O’Meara, making Jerry Greg Johnson. Makes your blood run cold to see it in reruns.

  117. anon[197] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Paths of Glory: a crisp 88 minutes, proving no movie needs to spend any more time.

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2019/10/six-degrees-of-joe-turkel/

  118. @Dave Pinsen

    “… you can’t compel reverence.”

    Alas, evidently the rest of mankind either never got the memo or they ignored it.

  119. @Steve Sailer

    “I watched all nine hours of Lord of the Rings, but my interest peaked during the second movie.”

    The film version was ok but nothing-Nothing!- beats the three volumes (plus “The Hobbit”, which must be read first in as much as it is to the LOR what “Das Rheingold” is to “Die Walküre”, “Siegfried” and “Götterdämmerung”).

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  120. @R.G. Camara

    Leftist drama queens: pearl clutchers

  121. The image for our age will be a 300 pound scowling, flannel-clad lesbian grinding a Becky’s smiling face under her EEE jackboot.

  122. @Steve Sailer

    Top sitcom ever? Can’t overlook I Love Lucy. And Lucy herself turned into a powerhouse TV producer

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  123. @Mr. Anon

    I doubt that he does. He probably also thinks that Hillary Clinton is a dedicated public servant, and kinda hot as well.

  124. black sea says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I wouldn’t have guessed that DFW was less successful with the ladies than Updike. I’ve read that Wallace kept a notebook of pick-up lines and approaches that had proven successful on his previous expeditions. He was tall and clever and — by writerly standards — exceptionally athletic.

    He was also a weird and very bright guy who became increasingly unstable in his college years, but was able to medicate his way to a semi-tolerable level of anxiety and depression. While that no doubt put a lot of women off, it may have attracted more than a few initially, and that kind of person often turns to sex as a refuge from whatever is keeping him awake night after night after night. In DFW’s case, he was about as much of a literary star as a person can be these days, and that alone would pull a lot of women.

    Anyway, his medication eventually stopped working and the descent into unalleviated depression did him in. But that aside, I would guess he had more “encounters” along the way than most other men.

  125. @Laurence Whelk

    You know what drives the humorless even crazier than telling them unsolicited jokes? Just laugh hysterically when they make one of their religious pronouncements like “race is a social construct” or “we have 12 years to save the planet”.

    Just ask them who their dealer is–cause you want some of the “good stuff” too. 😉

  126. Alfa158 says:
    @Stebbing Heuer

    Atwood had a great sense of where PC was going. The logical setting for her Harem Porn novel would have been an African, or fundamentalist Muslim society but even in the 80’s she knew that would have been trouble for her, so she fabricated a fundamentalist Christian society with the same characteristics. It must have however reduced the titillation factor for the readers. Getting dominated by some dweeb who looks like C. Everett Koop can’t have the same thrill as a menacing Sheik.
    Rather similar to Dick Wolf who became a billionaire producing endless crime dramas in which he takes real crime stories and films rough approximations where he reverses the races of the characters.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  127. @Hail

    That would probably require acknowledging the higher black crime rate, which would be a hatefact, and therefore not allowed, so no I’m guessing. It would also be exercising his white male privilege, and hence doubleplusungood.

  128. @R.G. Camara

    I like how he snuck in a casual comparison of Charlottesville with 9/11 and El Paso.

  129. @Steve Sailer

    I am mostly interested in Origin Stories, which a lot of Real Fans disdain. Let me know how these characters got started, but the subsequent developments aren’t that interesting to me.

    We think alike. I get a lot of biographies from the library, but lose interest after the first chapter or two. The genealogy and childhood are often fascinating, but I’d rather read an article about the subject’s career, rather than wading through the details.

  130. As usual you pathetic GenXers just loves you your poplar Kultur.

    First you love shitty 80s movies that suck to high heaven.

    Now you love stupid vile unfunny comedians.

    Now I’m going to teach you because you need some teaching.

    Comedians, at least modern, brick-wall stand-up comedians (I exempt Harpo Marx), always craft their jokes to appeal, to kowtow to, the moral middle. The basic, obvious conventional wisdom of the general masses. The opinions that, even if you’ve never met him, you can bet your bottom dollar that the guy hunkered up to the bar next to you holds, and will gladly expatiate on ad infinitum–even though you know exactly what he’s going to say because they are the exact same opinions you yourself hold.

    Comedians never really question anything–except for mocking mercilessly anyone who really, actually questions anything, who tries to get outside from the tightly closed box of conventional thinking. And everyone loves them for not questioning anything. You love them for it. This is why you love Seinfeld. Because it tells you exactly what you know already, and then tells you you are a really good boy for thinking the exact same as all the rest of the herd, and deserve a popsicle. That’s comedy for you. Patting you on the head for your stupid braindead little conventionalities.

    • Replies: @anon
  131. theMann says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I jettisoned cable the day I realized I like going to Vegas way more than paying a whacking large cable bill.

    Amazon Prime + Netflix is more than enough entertainment, with zero commercials and no fixed viewing times conflicting with life. Although sometimes I go to Burger places to catch some ESPN, and marvel at the sheer malevolent obnoxiousness of the commercials. And some of the broadcasters.

    Anyway, next time you meet some humorless jerk, ask them:
    Why did God invent women?
    Sheep don’t do dishes!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  132. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Malcolm X-Lax

    Spielberg has a movie for her too.

    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
  133. @Known Fact

    Lucy and the chocolates was the perfect parody of corporate America–we have all been there… 🙂

  134. A five wedge? On a 240 foot par 7? Hasn’t anyone here ever golfed??

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  135. Humorism activist Bismarck summed up, “We are not against humor. Everybody wants wanted humor, but nobody wants unwanted humor. It’s that simple.”

    Like “everybody wants wanted sexual advances, but nobody wants unwanted sexual advances.” Those creepy beta humorists had better learn to remain silent or be charged with humor-harassment.

  136. @Bragadocious

    “Pretty good takedown” to some people; cringy and ridiculous rant to others.

  137. global warming, and the coming ice age.”

    Wow, Sailer was onto environmentalists talking out of both sides of their mouths in 1993, pretty good. (But also pretty sad that they’re still getting away with it.)

  138. @Alfa158

    The logical setting for her Harem Porn novel would have been an African, or fundamentalist Muslim society but even in the 80’s she knew that would have been trouble for her,

    The how about an Indonesian member of parliament

    “Achmad Fadil Muzakki Syah, who told reporters he and his wives ‘regularly sleep together in one bed’, aims to showcase his family as an example of polygamy done right”

  139. anon[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @obwandiyag

    As usual you pathetic GenXers just loves you your poplar Kultur.

    You are confused. Steve is not Gen X.

  140. @Dave Pinsen

    I’ve never seen this movie. It seems like one I might like. You recommend?

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  141. Olorin says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    bitter songs of experience

    C’mon now. He didn’t say that he HAD bitter experiences. Just bitter songs about the experiences he’s had.

    And do you have any idea what grueling labor it is to fabricate bitterness out of an elite, comfortable, privileged, spoiled life parlaying a Ph.D. and no appreciable skills into a full time job as a college professor and member of the Chattering Classes?

    After all, he’s an expert in the Cinema Of Simulation. And comparing books he skimmed to things he saw on TV/movie screens.

    https://www.bloomsbury.com/author/randy-laist

    http://independent.academia.edu/RandyLaist

    https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/4116710.Randy_Laist

    As for his employer, it’s a literal toxic waste site. Medium, message, and all that.

    Goodwin College is a private college in East Hartford, Connecticut. The college offers a variety of certificate and associate degree programs along with bachelor’s degree programs in child study, health science, organizational studies, RN-BSN, and the newest, public safety.

    Goodwin College began as Data Institute Business School in 1962. In 2004, the college transitioned to not-for-profit status and was granted accreditation by the New England Association of Schools and Colleges (NEASC). In 2008, the Connecticut Board of Governors for Higher Education authorized Goodwin College to offer baccalaureate programs.

    In 2005, Goodwin College initiated a major project to construct a new campus along the Connecticut River in East Hartford. The college had purchased riverfront property that was home to a defunct oil terminal, and took steps to redevelop the site in partnership with state and federal environmental agencies and the Connecticut Development Authority (CDA). The site had been designated as a brown field, or contaminated area, by the Environmental Protection Agency, and the college removed 30 large oil storage tanks and conducted soil remediation with the help of state and federal funding.

    The school itself? An entrepreneurial project of

    https://www.courant.com/business/top-workplaces/hc-top-workplaces-mark-scheinberg-story.html

  142. Olorin says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Related to my previous comment, and the piece on Laist’s boss and how he founded “Goodwin College” back when the future of collegiate Dolt Wrangling looked a lot more lucrative than it does today.

    https://www.courant.com/business/top-workplaces/hc-top-workplaces-mark-scheinberg-story.html

    Wayback hung but finally coughed it up. Ditto archive.is

    http://archive.is/tzjb5

    https://web.archive.org/web/20191008220802/https://www.courant.com/business/top-workplaces/hc-top-workplaces-mark-scheinberg-story.html

  143. @Carl Undergaard

    No, I don’t don’t plan to, and you got that wrong. That was an atomic wedgey of the 19th hole.

    • Replies: @Carl Undergaard
  144. @Steve Sailer

    Origin stories are the best way to tell a superhero story. Mostly because of three reasons:

    1. Many people might be unfamiliar with some of the more complicated lore of a sueprhero (e.g. with Batman, we know his parents were shot in front of him, but how he was trained and how he got his gear are stuff only fan boys remember).

    2. “How X became Y” is fascinating when done right, to both old and new fans. It’s wonderful to see a good actor portraying a superhero first discovering and learning to use his powers. Spiderman did it great.

    3. It allows the movie maker to establish new rules/which powers are non-existent, which abilities are downplayed, thus allowing the filmmakers to make their own story. For example, the Tobey Maguire Spiderman had organic webs, not personally-built web shooters, which allowed them to merely skim over Peter-is-a-scientific-genius with the only proof that other smart people (e.g. Dr. Connors, Dr. Octavious) think he’s smart.

    In contrast, Brian Singer’s Superman tried to bypass all that by pretending to be a sequel to Dick Donner’s work, but most of the audience had either never seen or had forgotten Donner’s wonderful films. It caused a failure.

    Fan boys scream about hating origin story movies and claim they want the later-arc stories, but they are a small minority, and in any event they are suckers for origin stories despite their protestations.

  145. @theMann

    Good on you for jettisoning the cable – you are indeed theMann. Also, thanks for the sheep joke for the collection.

    About that ESPN, it was never something I ever watched, even when I did watch the TV. A friend of mine, though he likes rock music as much as the next guy, HATES HATES HATES that ESPN has these power chords playing over and over during the replays, talking, etc.

    When I got a a Nielsen diary to fill out a few years back, besides putting in only 5 minutes of weather radar watching every coupla days (just to humor them, as I think they’d have thrown the data out if I had it totally blank), I put in a comment for my friend about that ESPN crap. I already got my 2 dollar bills, so what could they do to me?

  146. @Lurker

    Scarily, that also implies the opposite: they cannot conceive of things they haven’t seen/heard in movies/TV/music. In other words, talking to them about, say, the Red Terror or the Holodomor or the Moscow Show Trials or Mao’s Great Leap Forward and how evil they were gives you blank stares/denial. It’s truly terrifying how intellectually stunted people in the Matrix really are.

    • Agree: Lurker
  147. AceDeuce says:
    @anon

    ……” The sea was angry that day, my friends – like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli”.

  148. AceDeuce says:
    @S. Anonyia

    Someone said that the present day is a mashup of 1984 and Lord of the Flies, driven by people who wouldn’t understand either of those references.

  149. Jack D says:
    @neutral

    Cui bono is always weak. I might benefit from a hurricane if I have a power line restoration company but that doesn’t mean I caused the hurricane. I’m not so sure that Israel really benefits from ISIS anyway.

  150. the “super serious angry” commenters is that type of thing that makes us look bad

    • Replies: @Anon
  151. @anon

    LOL! That’s gold, Jerry!

  152. So, help me out here. Am I supposed to start watching Seinfield again in protest? Oy

  153. Anon[939] • Disclaimer says:
    @baked georgia

    Dull people like you make us look bad. I don’t want to be associated with dull, uneducated people like you any more than you want to be associated with people who actually have principles and stand up for them. Maybe learn to act like an adult and understand that you won’t always have everything in common with everyone?

  154. Flash-forward several eventful decades, to Gilead. We now sing bitter songs of experience. Post-9/11, post-Charlottesville and post-El Paso, comic irony is not only tone-deaf and uncool, but also complicit with the kind of evil that flourishes outside the solipsistic bubble of Jerry’s apartment.

    Those things are all the result of Leftist excesses. Still, if you use the term solipsistic in a discussion of Seinfeld, it proves you are accurately perceiving something in this world.

  155. @Steve Sailer

    Beverly Hillbillies and Arrested Development.

  156. @Clement Pulaski

    I don’t know, but the leader was definitely “O’Brien”.

  157. Jim Given says:

    I can’t find this in your comments:

    No, no! The insomniac dyslexic agnostic lies awake at night, wondering, “Is there a Dog?”

  158. Jim Smith says:
    @anon

    No, no, to Professor Laist it would be the Andrea DORKEA! Yuk, yuk! (My humor. It is so humorous!)

  159. Dutch says:
    @alt right moderate

    Been watching and loving this. When the Brits make you a target of their dry, ironic humor you better grab a helmet. There is an episode where they dissect a Millennial, know nothing NYT reporter who gets pretty well dissected by Joe Rogan on his podcast. She just starts firing off sound bites about Trump, Tulsi Gabbard, etc, etc. Rogan keeps asking her to elaborate and, she literally cannot even provide the loosest factual basis for anything she asserts. To the point that after calling Tulsi Gabbard an ‘Assad Toady’ she literally asks Rogan to look up the definition of the word ‘toady’ for her. It’s all so brutal and spot on, and inspiring. Inspiring because you realize that moments after the meek inherited the earth, real men were always gonna come and pummel their faces and take it back. That time is moments from now.
    Folks the lunatics are running the asylum. And as bad as that seems we must never forget that lunatics are incapable of doing much or seeing anything through. So the opportunity is here to turn off the lights and walk right out the unlocked door. You only think the door is locked because that’s what you, the rational person, would do. But you’re overthinking it. We’ve already put too much faith in lunatics retaining some sense of rationality, fairness, logic, etc. It’s all a projection thats at the core of the mind control that we’re under. But the reality is it’s all a facade or children in costumes. and we don’t have to take any of it. Laugh in their face, walk out the door, then be surprised by how many people follow you. Be surprised by how little resistance they put up as you trample them on your way out the door. The words of lunatics are their only weapons and they’re only as effective as you let them be. The harder you laugh at them the more their bullets and bombs literally fall impotently to the ground. And goddamnit it it’s FUN!!!!!

  160. Dutch says:
    @alt right moderate

    Been watching and loving this. When the Brits make you a target of their dry, ironic humor you better grab a helmet. There is an episode where they dissect a Millennial, know nothing NYT reporter who gets pretty well dissected by Joe Rogan on his podcast. She just starts firing off sound bites about Trump, Tulsi Gabbard, etc, etc. Rogan keeps asking her to elaborate and, she literally cannot even provide the loosest factual basis for anything she asserts. To the point that after calling Tulsi Gabbard an ‘Assad Toady’ she literally asks Rogan to look up the definition of the word ‘toady’ for her. It’s all so brutal and spot on, and inspiring. Inspiring because you realize that moments after the meek inherited the earth, real men were always gonna come and pummel their faces and take it back. That time is moments from now.
    Folks the lunatics are running the asylum. And as bad as that seems we must never forget that lunatics are incapable of doing much or seeing anything through. So the opportunity is here to turn off the lights and walk right out the unlocked door. You only think the door is locked because that’s what you, the rational person, would do. But you’re overthinking it. We’ve already put too much faith in lunatics retaining some sense of rationality, fairness, logic, etc. It’s all a projection thats at the core of the mind control that we’re under. But the reality is it’s all a facade or children in costumes. and we don’t have to take any of it. Laugh in their face, walk out the door, then be surprised by how many people follow you. Be surprised by how little resistance they put up as you trample them on your way out the door. The words of lunatics are their only weapons and they’re only as effective as you let them be. The harder you laugh at them the more their bullets and bombs literally fall impotently to the ground. And goddamnit it it’s FUN!!!!!

  161. In next week’s NYT:

    What If Wakanda Invaded Gilead?: The White Supremacists’ Wet Dream!

  162. @Dave Pinsen

    Jerry is also a college graduate, since he and George went to school together.

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