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From The Daily Caller:

“People think reparations is reparations for slavery, but really, economically speaking, reparations are for the damage done by the New Deal and redlining because that is where we saw a compounding of the existing inequity from the legacy of slavery, where we drew red lines around black communities,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “We said white communities will get home loans and they will get access to the basic bedrock of wealth in America and this will be your heirloom and we gave white America the heirloom that appreciated overtime, that people still benefit from today and we did not give to African-American and Mexican communities, Puerto Rican communities.” …

“It’s important to tell the story of where we’ve been and what others are doing as well because we look at, for example, Germany, and how they’ve been able or they’re attempt to try to heal after the Holocaust,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “Germany paid reparations and they went through that process and they had that truth-telling process. And until America tells the truth about itself, we’re not going to heal.”

The Redlineocaust.

 
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  1. J.Ross says: • Website

    Germany hasn’t resolved anything, they’re in a never-ending hamster wheel of undisguised Communist conformity tricks and cultist guilt schemes, they have no rights as we understand rights, they have federal agents chasing down phantoms, and even with all that their mental gatekeepers are still in fear of resurgent Nazism. Germany will be remembered as an example of how not to do this sort of thing.

  2. The counterpoint to AOC is to play to her strongest asset, fertility, and propose family friendly law. Close the borders, increase wages, relax family-punitive regulation, etc. It’s all too beautiful.

    • Agree: midtown
    • Replies: @anon
    , @AnotherDad
  3. El Dato says:

    Even His Sainthood FDR will start to spin up in his tomb (which must have been specially constructed to retain the utter politicial cynicism and manipulativeness oozing out of his body, maybe Dick Cheney was tapping it?) when hearing this.

    FDR really trashed around like a fish out of water trying to sell his ‘New Deal’. It changed definition about three times and was considered an utter failure by a crying FDR himself 10 years after inception, but then!! bell of WWII rang.

    the heirloom that appreciated overtime

    Yeah, I have that lying around somewhere.

    Alexa, where is my heirloom that appreciated overtime??

    • Replies: @Paul
  4. El Dato says:
    @J.Ross

    Letting in the powerful waves of migration is healing.

  5. istevefan says:

    “We said white communities will get home loans and they will get access to the basic bedrock of wealth in America and this will be your heirloom and we gave white America the heirloom that appreciated overtime, that people still benefit from today and we did not give to African-American and Mexican communities, Puerto Rican communities.” …

    In the 1930s during the New Deal, White America was close to 90 percent of the population. So it stands to reason they got the lion’s share of the heirloom. And White Americans were able to take those investments and make them grow. They didn’t squander them. Blacks on the other hand seemed to trash many of the places they settled. And if you want to discuss reparations, let’s net that against the Great Society disbursements black America has received.

    Did Puerto Ricans even register as anything other than a blip in the census? Additionally Puerto Rico has won the lottery. How many Latin nations would love to have Puerto Rico’s status today? They get to come and go inside the USA as they please as citizens. They receive federal dollars in Puerto Rico proper and their island enjoys being able to host US companies for tax benefits. Consider that your reparations.

    • Agree: reactionry
  6. “we did not give to African-American and Mexican communities, Puerto Rican communities.”

    Notice the sleight-of-hand there? We’re all in this together, and we all deserve reparations (but mostly me) because if we stick together we can beat Whitey (who never worked–he just had everything ‘given’ to him). “We” now includes even those of us whose ancestors weren’t even in the US back in the FDR era–and we’re fast approaching the date when that refers to most black people as well.

    Meanwhile….loans are the way for minorities to build wealth, huh? Yep, that worked out so well in the last decade.

    The ‘usual suspects’ have been laying the groundwork for this for years.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-federal-government-intentionally-racially-segregated-american-cities-180963494/

    Following the MORE tag is one response to Rothstein’s polemic.

    [MORE]

    There’s an old saying: “Those who control the past, control the future.” Despite the extended narrative, this is principally a tendentious series of distortions, canards, and outright fabrications from Rothstein. All in service of an all-too-obvious objective. To take just one obvious example, he states without evidence that the entirety of the difference in wealth between white and black families is due to federal housing policy.

    You may say it’s reasonable to assume that *some* of it is due to that, but even then you’d have to demonstrate cause and effect, rather than just declare it. But Rothstein says *all* of it is due to this one factor. Frankly ridiculous. All of the familiar social factors, for instance, count for nothing.

    He further states that federal regulators must have been aware of “reverse redlining” because “that was their job.” What sort of logic is that? Note also that “reverse redlining” is now seen as pernicious as “redlining” though it never really occurred. Rather it’s a rational market response to increased risk.

    And note that the over $100 billion in enforced mortgage bailouts — which went substantially to minority debtors, and which we all end up paying for — isn’t even mentioned in passing.

    More laughably, he contends (again, completely without evidence) that blacks increased property values when they moved into white neighborhoods (which he also claims never happened because it was illegal.) Rothstein contends that the FHA demonstrated this, but the FHA did no such thing.

    Elsewhere Rothstein has agitated for increased third-world immigration to the USA, which is already at an all-time high. Since he maintains here that public housing is inadequate to serve “the nation’s housing needs” one wonders why he thinks that the introduction of tens of millions more poor people will help.

    There’s much more, but the main point is that this isn’t science — it’s propaganda.

    • Agree: bomag, Trevor H.
  7. BenKenobi says:

    we gave white America the heirloom that appreciated overtime

    No, they paid for it. In quite a few ways.

    • Replies: @M. Hartley
  8. BenKenobi says:
    @istevefan

    One of the regulars here said a couple months ago, and it bears repeating:

    (Paraphrasing from memory)

    After the billions (trillions?) spent on American blacks in the past 60 years, their net worth still somehow remains effectively zero. Has there ever been more wealth wasted in human history?

  9. If I’ve learned anything over the years, it’s that some people aren’t going to like all this holocaust equavalencing.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  10. Paul says:

    So that is why illegal aliens from the third world are crashing our borders and going on the dole? Now I am confused.

    • Replies: @bomag
  11. @istevefan

    Stop Blockbusting Our (Hairy, White) Balls!
    Or: Witch-Hunting For Restrictive Coven(ant)s?

    Actually, People of Color should pay *Caucasians* for the loss of trillions of dollars in homeowner equity.

    Btw., it’s about time that the US declares its independence from Puerto Rico
    See also “Rico” Statute of Limitations & Minority Mortgage Racketeering

    • Replies: @istevefan
  12. Whiskey says: • Website

    It will take All the money and possession s of White s to pay for all the current and dirt vibrant s with open borders.

  13. istevefan says:
    @reactionry

    We missed the boat on Puerto Rican independence. During the 1950s, PR radicals shot up the US Capitol wounding five members of the House of Representatives.

    In the 1970s and 80s a PR indy group carried out over 130 bomb attacks in the USA.

    The writing was on the wall. They wanted out. But we refused. Now Puerto Ricans have realized they have what the rest of Latin America can only dream of, unfettered access to the USA. There is no way in hell they are leaving now. If anything they will become a state. At best we can only hope to keep the current status.

    • Replies: @midtown
  14. What these geniuses overlook is that for homeownership to act as a source of “wealth building”, you need the home to appreciate or at least maintain its value.

    So suppose blacks had been dealt into the FHA loans program. Then what? The course of property values in most of the places blacks were moving into in the 30s, 40s and 50s was a steep downhill. Detroit, St Louis, Philly, Milwaukee, Newark: those weren’t places you built wealth, they were where you lost your shirt!

    I say FDR did the blacks a favor keeping them in rental units; the capital loss was thus absorbed by the (white) landlords.

    • Agree: Colin Wright, bomag
  15. When do we get reparations for the horrible toll the underclasses have inflicted on our society over the past fifty years?

  16. @BenKenobi

    Agree with your point, but the invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan are in contention for greatest waste of American history.

    • Agree: Kyle
    • Replies: @International Jew
  17. @Joe, Averaged

    Comparing redlining to the holocaust — forcing people into rental housing vs forcing them into cattlecars — is just too howlingly ignorant for me to rouse myself to indignation.

    What does irk me is otherwise intelligent people calling me a Nazi for supporting the American people’s right to self-determination. I.e. “equivalencing” Americans’ desire to live peacefully within our own borders, to the Germans’ desire to storm into other peoples’ countries.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  18. You can tell when Hillery or Nancy mouth this social justice bs, they really don’t believe it. AOC on the other hand does.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  19. Surely the greatest crime committed by FDR against People of Color was when he redlined IQ. That has had terrible long-term effects on their ability to build wealth. As we know, after WW II Asians were allowed within the line as reparations for the internment policy, but blacks were not given similar treatment. This has caused a lot of resentment and we need to speak openly about it. However, the brutal repression suffered by the last man to broach the topic, James Watson, shows that the Powers that Be are determined to maintain that Red Line and will crush all who speak of it.

  20. @Harry Baldwin

    I’ll agree that those wars were ill-advised, but their costs in men and materiel was a fraction of what WW1 cost us (to go back to another useless war). To arrive at the trillion-dollar costs bandied about by the likes of Joe Stiglitz (and afterwards his imitators) you need to make fanciful guesses about foregone economic growth, cost to our reputation in the world, etc.

    The direct costs can be read off by looking at our defense budget and comparing it to trend. Do that and it’s just a blip. We mostly moved military units around — like V Corps from Germany to Iraq, carrier groups from here to there — that we were going to keep anyway.

    And again: the loss of five thousand men has been a tragedy. The economic cost, however, was unremarkable.

    • Agree: Bubba
    • Replies: @M. Hartley
  21. El Dato says:
    @Thulean Friend

    She will say anything to get ahead. But it’s not populism.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  22. Anonymous[242] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    And if you want to discuss reparations, let’s net that against the Great Society disbursements black America has received.

    More importantly let’s net it against rampant black violence and crime against Whites.

    • Agree: M. Hartley
  23. We would appear to be in for something along the lines of the expropriations that were inflicted on the Jews of Germany in the Thirties.

    But there. Be meek and don’t say anything. Maybe they’ll only go up to about 1938 and stop.

  24. The Redlineocaust.

    Funny you should coin that term, Steve. It really happened!

    An obscure book (h/t via this recent Boston Globe article ) that may interest the Steve-o-sphere:

    The Death of an American Jewish Community
    A Tragedy of Good Intentions

    The intro and first chapter (click on Look inside) are previewed on Amazon.

    An interesting passage near the preview’s end (look for footnotes [12] and [13]) lays out the roots of Steve’s Golfocaust theory of Jew-on-Jew ostracism that’s buried in recollections of snobby Gentiles.

    I don’t have a copy, so I don’t how much of that issue is addressed in relation to BBURG blockbusting, but Chapter 10: The “Dirty Little Secret” Class Conflict 1969-1970 sounds intriguing.

    From the Globe article:

    Downtown major Jewish institutional leaders, who lived in the suburbs, suggested that the thousands of working-class Jews living in Mattapan and Dorchester move.

    • Replies: @BigDickNick
  25. I would not underestimate AOC’s appeal.

    POC do not feel the least bit squeamish about comparing their various struggles to genocide. They’d use the Armenians or the Ukrainians as an example, but they see how well Jews have leveraged their tragedy. Once again, we see that POCs view Jews as Uber-whites.

    This whole idea of an ‘heirloom’ of wealth also enables an heirloom of guilt. No matter the details; if you are doing okay here and now, and you are white, your means justify their ends. You inherit the guilt. POCs inherit the payout.

    The question of whether we should have ‘quotas’ will seem quaint in the very near future when we have affirmatively furthering quotas for everything.

    Anyway, blacks probably do deserve some sort of help. They are such a mess, and if it isn’t all our fault, it isn’t entirely not our fault, either. They were happily cracking open coconuts with their teeth on the shores of Angola before we showed up. I’d argue for a different tax rate if they could prove descent from slaves. Not too much, but look, it’s not like they pay many taxes anyway.

  26. Rocks Off says:

    It’s important to discuss the scope of redlining to see who really has to pay reparations. Redlining only took place in 239 cities and so the reparations should be limited to the mostly goodwhites still living in those cities. But what about Asian-Americans? They have accumulated more per capita wealth than whites. Surely they should have to pay reparations as well? And there is always the dicey questions of our fellow whites. Surely they are innocent of any of this redlining nonsense so not only should Jewish wealth not be touched; Jews should get a symbolic amount of reparations as well for the country clubocaust and Ivy quotacaust they suffered through.

  27. So, would the blacks whose ancestors stayed in the South get reparations?

  28. Anon[849] • Disclaimer says:

    We said white communities will get home loans and they will get access to the basic bedrock of wealth in America and this will be your heirloom and we gave white America the heirloom that appreciated overtime, that people still benefit from today and we did not give to African-American and Mexican communities, Puerto Rican communities.

    A moron transcribing a moron. First of all, this is a run-on sentence. Second of all:

    we gave white America the heirloom that appreciated overtime

    It appreciated OVER TIME. Not that they appreciated the overtime of football or basketball games. Not that they made more money because they got more overtime. Their capital appreciated OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

    Now give me her job. Oh yeah that’s right I don’t want it because I’d make minimum wage, have to be around the kind of people that work at BuzzFeed, and then get fired in two months because no one wants astroturf fake news anymore.

    • LOL: ic1000
  29. Anon[318] • Disclaimer says:

    Wasn’t redlining just a early, lower-resolution, pre-computer form of the credit rating? In other words, an attempt to determine who would pay back the loans and who wouldn’t? Of course, the answer turned out to have “disparate impact,” but credit scores today also downrank black disproportionately, and reports are that AI ratings also do.

    If you want more blacks in white areas, don’t ask private companies to risk their financial solvency to achieve that. You’re going to have to have the government give blacks money (in the form of loan guarantees). More “free stuff from white people.” Of course, this results in class mixing and differing social norms in residential areas, which means neighbors who don’t get along and more Barbecue Becky incidents (Party Noise Peggy, Tires in Yard Tricia, et al.)

    (By the way, AOC is very entertaining, the best thing to happen to the political landscape since Trump. She has a weird media genius about her that in fact resembles Trump’s.)

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  30. @BenKenobi

    I didn’t even know that heirlooms qualified for overtime. Heck I didn’t know they had employment contracts. I’m definitely behind the times.

  31. As long as AOC doesn’t say it was worse than the Golfocaust, she won’t get into too much trouble.

  32. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Anyway, blacks probably do deserve some sort of help.

    Yes, that was the notion behind the trillions of dollars we’ve thrown at them since the early 1960s.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
  33. Anonymous[294] • Disclaimer says:

    Of course, the official Webster’s antonym for ‘redlining’ is ‘predatory lending’.

    Two species of voodoo perpetrated upon unwitting innocent minorities by malignant scheming whites.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  34. @International Jew

    Much of the colossal cost of the wars has been off-budget. And hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost, not just the 5000 you seem to care about.

    I notice this isn’t the first time you’ve posted a specious apologia for the Iraq war, masquerading as something different. Can’t imagine why.

  35. (((Who)))’s coaching this bimbo?

  36. @J.Ross

    Germany must be humiliated and abased in perpetuity. Like a modern Amalek.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  37. John Galt says:

    I still fail to see the connection between the New Deal and black poverty? Redlining is a typical leftist talking point, but given they usually love the New Deal this is the first I’m hearing this one. Is this just AOC being an idiot?

  38. Clyde says:

    Ask nitwit AOC how many Puerto Ricans were even living in the continental United States while Fr Roosevelt was President. My guess is not more than 50,000. So how are Ricans and Hispanics in general going to horn in on these redlining reparations?
    Blacks I can see but not the other minorities. But blacks have gotten enough reparations via 50 years of enhanced Great Society style welfare and do nuthing affirmative action gov’t jobs anyway.

    • Replies: @Perspective
  39. George says:

    She is correct that ‘The New Deal’ was based on, and amplified the racism of Jim Crow, shame on Roosevelt.

    Do Catholics get reparations?
    E Michael Jones— Ethnic Cleansing of Urban Neighborhoods.

    • Replies: @Issac
  40. dearieme says:

    I’m delighted to learn that the Democrats will pay up for all the damage they’ve done to blacks over a the decades. I suppose the Clinton Foundation will lead the way.

  41. @International Jew

    Agree. Accumulating wealth isn’t about acquiring a thing, it’s something you do, the product of your labor. All these people’s get rich schemes will come to naught because they miss this point.

  42. “It’s important to tell the story of where we’ve been and what others are doing as well because we look at, for example, Germany, and how they’ve been able or they’re attempt to try to heal after the Holocaust,” Ocasio-Cortez said.

    Which “Holocaust”? — the one for which it is criminal to suggest that it not the unique pinnacle, Platonic form of Evil, or, say, the WWII obliteration of the German cities and civilian populations by British and American bombers?

    http://fosterspeak.blogspot.com/2018/10/my-victimhood-is-bigger-than-yours-or.html

  43. Arclight says:

    I actually think most people would be behind reparations if they believed a) that would be the end of special demands made by blacks against society, and b) it would actually work and within a generation we’d see black net worth and so on more or less the same as whites.

    But no one believes this would be the case, so many whites look on this concept as throwing away money and having to apologize for something they themselves did not cause, and race hustlers like TNC have already flat out said that even if America did provide reparations he wouldn’t consider the matter closed, ever.

    In a semi-related note, South Africa’s Truth and Reconciliation was held up as a model of what could be in the US to heal racial wounds…but it’s obvious 20 years on it did nothing of the sort.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    , @Alfa158
  44. midtown says:
    @istevefan

    I know the Puerto Ricans would like to stay with the U.S., but is there no mechanism for Americans to decide they want out of the arrangement?

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    , @bomag
    , @istevefan
  45. OC is extremely stupid. Steve, ignore her!

  46. lavoisier says: • Website

    The debt owed by American blacks to American white people is enormous and can never be settled.

    Everywhere they go in any large numbers the environment is destroyed and wealth is lost.

    Think of all the white homeowners who lost the wealth value of their homes when their neighborhoods crumbled by the influx of black people. This does not even touch the lives lost to murder or ruined by the stress of having to live with people who behave terribly.

    This debt will never be paid. And the only white person who wants to pay reparations to black people are white people who have never had to live in an area with large numbers of black people.

    In short, hypocritical clueless liberals. If they want to pay reparations, let them start by moving into these neighborhoods and sending their kids to the schools. Live by example, not by virtue signaling.

    Sure there are a lot of good decent black people out there. But I am unaware of any majority minority community that is thriving, and this failure is not the result of racism.

  47. Anonymous[417] • Disclaimer says:
    @M. Hartley

    I didn’t read it as an apologia – just as a true statement that one can view the Iraq war as the mistake it was without resorting to the hyperbolic and debunked lies of Oliver Stone, The Lancet, etc. about casualty numbers and monetary costs.

  48. We have Woodrow Wilson, the worst president in US History, to thank for a lot of this. Getting us into WW1 created a manpower shortage in the industrial North and spurred the great migration, which led to the ruining of the inner cities. And of course, he granted Us citizenship to Puerto Ricans.

  49. I like how she assumes that lending people money is some kind of favor.

  50. JimB says:

    Occasional Cortex has verbal disinhibition which allows us to see the messy inner workings of her brain, analogous to cows that have portholes installed so you can see the workings of their digestion. Whites built and founded the United States, comprising 89% of the population, so the white heirlooms she mentions are all the functional institutions and middle class communities that POC couldn’t build in their homelands and are now destroying here.

    Mass immigration allowed POC to loot America’s posterity, white and black. Puerto Rican’s were some of the first to arrive at the Loot Whitey party which was the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965 since they didn’t require visas.

  51. Of course, if there really was a difference, it’s because blacks and Hispanics were a bad mortgage risk by the relatively strict lending standards of the 1950s.

    And right, aoc is the direction it’s headed. In 20 years there are going to be many politicians in her mold. She is a bellwether!

  52. Tulip says:

    Historical strip-mining seems to be on an uptick.

  53. Redlining actually lowered the property value of whites , so that Blacks could move into these areas.

    My great grandfather bought his 3,000 sq foot brownstone in 1915 for $19,000… he refused to sell as Blacks began moving in when his 4 sons were all sent overseas to fight, which enabled Blacks to move north and take the factory jobs as the white workers were all drafted.

    When my great grandfather died in 1960 the neighborhood was 75% Black, my grandfather sold the family home for $9,000. This area of Philadelphia was redlined , when it was still 80% white in 1935.

    In fact most of the current gentrified areas of Philly had been redlined when they were majority white , such as Manayunk , Fishtown , Powelton Village, South Philly , and even Society Hill was mostly redlined.

  54. @Angular momentum

    Agree, and there is a new-ish vector in the rhetoric.

    ” … try to heal … paid reparations … had that truth-telling process … tells the truth about itself … going to heal.”

    The Weaponization of Therapy Talk. Who can object to the healing process?

    All your healing are belong to us.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    , @densa
  55. Thea says:

    It would be much cheaper to give all slave descents a lump sum one- time payment labeled reparations than this continuous drip that they never recognize. Then we wash our hands and say you’re fortune is your responsibility now.

    • Replies: @bomag
  56. @Arclight

    As anyone older than a child knows, the history of the concessions to compensate for former supposed racism is that they never in any way end “special demands made”. In fact, they do just the opposite. The winner of the concession now wants even more and now has a new platform and political capital with which to demand it, while other groups who did not benefit from the prior concession become even more hysterically insistent that they get a concession too.

    MLK day, electing Obama, giving away awards—Academy, Nobel, etc. The list goes on and on. The process never ends, it only accelerates.

  57. Gordo says:
    @BenKenobi

    After the billions (trillions?) spent on American blacks in the past 60 years, their net worth still somehow remains effectively zero. Has there ever been more wealth wasted in human history?

    But what a time to own the liquor stores in their areas.

  58. Can anyone see anything positive in America’s future? What a mess! I’m not even sure that the elites will go untouched.

  59. Clyde says:

    Hussein Obama was reparations enough! He ruined America as far as racism claims go. Now all these millennials want to write about is race and so called gender. Global warming is a distant concern.

  60. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    “I’d argue for a different tax rate if they could prove descent from slaves.”

    The underclass ones, who presumably were the most harmed by whatever, already have an effectively negative federal income tax rate thanks to various tax credits. What income tax rate do you propose?

  61. @Clyde

    Most PR’s that began moving to the US in the 1950’s moved to the NYC metro area, especially the Bronx. Today they have access to all the amenities, jobs and culture of an amazing top tier city. There are many that would be envious of the PR’s who got in to NYC before soaring housing prices and rents prohibited them and many others from moving in. They should consider themselves damn lucky.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  62. songbird says:

    I’d like to see someone try to add up all that annexing Puerto Rico has cost the US. Of course, the number would have to be revised upward each year.

  63. George says:

    Racial profiling started during WWI, at least. James Cox ran for President against Warren G Harding on continuing the forced assimilation of Germanic speakers (which given the bigotry of the time included all Eastern Europeans and Scandinavians) policies he instituted as the governor of Ohio. Who was the running mate of this horrible ethnic cleanser? FDR.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_M._Cox

    James Cox’s poorly remembered anti-German crusade is an example of the difference between WASP and White supremacy. The Election of Harding kind of signaled the transition from WASP to White power. The question in my mind is if the White supremacist government ended when the 2nd Klan ended after WWII or did it take a few more decades ending in Vietnam with Jewish elites taking over the rains of most activities from WASPs and Whites. What comes after Jewish elites? Tulsi Gabbard and other Asians maybe?

  64. @BenKenobi

    Thanks for the shoutout.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-white-people-such-as-fdr-to-blame-for-blacks-poor-property-values/?highlight=trillions#comment-2290584

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/diversity-is-a-weak-and-stupid-god/

    “the Diversity god, a god who not only is never satisfied no matter how great the sacrifice, but who actually grows more angry with each offering.”

    It just keeps being true.

    And yeah, it was trillions.

  65. ChrisZ says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Ghost, I agree that our side should not underestimate Rep. O-C’s appeal. But I’m also starting to appreciate the disruptive energy she’s bringing to her own side. She may represent the rebellion of the “fringe” against their elite funders and enablers.

    In the past week she’s endorsed a 70% wealth tax on billionaires, toyed with (and diminished) the Holocaust by comparing it to “redlining,” and publicized this “heirloom” theory of White guilt/malfeasance rooted in the New Deal.*

    These are assaults on the three “master” segments that direct and benefit from the current destructive Leftist coalition: the odious tech billionaires, the preponderantly Jewish symbol-making class, and upper-middle class “educated” Whites.

    They coddled and unleashed the resentments of the “diverse” to gain numerical advantage in popular elections, and take power for themselves. AOC is the pert little monster created by these Dr. Frankensteins. Whether the monster will bring down the creator, or be put down at the cost of crippling the Left coalition, is anyone’s guess.

    ***

    *Regarding the heirloom theory, it strikes me as a significant offensive move in the anti-White playbook. Rooting black dysfunction in slavery placed the blame on WASPs who lived two centuries ago–who by the prevailing cultural agreement were all “terrible people” to begin with. Rooting it in FDR’s New Deal transfers the blame to the parents and grandparents of every American of European ancestry alive today–directly implicating every high-minded White alongside the usual deplorables. That’s a huge expansion of White culpabilty: an advance from sentimental White guilt to *actionable* White guilt. It’s a declaration that even White “allies” will not escape being held to account.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @AnotherDad
  66. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Neil Templeton

    whites got 40 acres and a mule and went from a sod cave to minneapolis blacks sold theirs moved to detroit and turned detroit into haiti

  67. Jane Jacobs, in the death and life of great American Cities talks about communities that were redlined. In addition to black neighborhoods, Back of the Yards in Chicago (largely Slavic and Irish), the North End of Boston (Italian), and East Harlem (then Italian) were also redlined. The latter neighborhood suffered slum clearance, but the former two overcame redlining to become respectable middle class areas.

    Now AOC proposes to tax white redlining victims to pay off people who weren’t even here in the 1930s.

  68. bomag says:
    @istevefan

    we gave white America the _______

    Notice that with this ilk, everything is given, nothing is earned.

    And if they are ever confronted with the different earning power of various peoples, they launch into their canned tropes of how Blacks and Puerto Ricans created and built current civilization, but YT came along and stole it all. Just Google it.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    , @Russ
  69. @J.Ross

    German beer swillers had the best racket ever a few years ago. These beer swillers all worked for various German intelligence agencies designed to monitor far-right activities. They would have big meetings with kegs of beer and there wouldn’t be one far-right guy there who wasn’t getting cash from the government.

    The leader of this racket was considered a genius by his beer swilling buddies because the job was easy and the beer was German, and, as Knopfler sang, German beer is chemical free.

    I’ll liberate the Krauts in Germany when I’m president. Rader, Andes and Reinhard(who married a Tenor) is all the motivation I’ll need.

  70. Jack D says:
    @BenKenobi

    Have you been following all the stuff about how the Federal workers are all starving because they missed a paycheck. The Federal workforce (18% black BTW – more than their share of the population) makes an average of $68K cash salary (plus very generous pension and benefits) but if they miss a single paycheck they have to go to the food bank or else they will starve. I realize that this was mostly media hype in order to create political pressure on Trump, but there must have been some element of truth. How do people live like this? Doesn’t it occur to them that they should save a least a LITTLE of their income – enough to buy a week’s worth of groceries?’

    You can bet that if the browns of America (it’s hilarious BTW that in the past reparations were always going to be paid to blacks for slavery but now Puerto Ricans and Mexicans are going to get them too for FDR’s redlining even though great- grandpa was back in the village when this happened) got their reparations, there would be a huge boom in sales of cars and flat screen TV’s and in 6 months it will all be gone.

  71. @J.Ross

    It’s very sad. One of the greatest nations/peoples laid low by the Holocaust cult. Instead saying “we screwed up, we’re sorry” and then learning\promoting the real lesson–different peoples in different nations, defined borders, then keep out of your neighbor’s territory and business–we have all this endless bowing and scraping.

    By now the people who actually screwed up aren’t even around … but the beatings and bleating goes on. Shameful.

  72. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    Yes, you see if you refuse to give minorities mortgage loans, that’s bad. And if you give them TOO MUCH money for mortgage loans, it’s also bad. It’s like having a fish tank. Minorities have no more agency than goldfish. Whitey has to sprinkle the JUST RIGHT amount on the ghetto or else they will be floating at the top of the tank.

  73. @Neil Templeton

    The counterpoint to AOC is to play to her strongest asset, fertility, and propose family friendly law. Close the borders, increase wages, relax family-punitive regulation, etc. It’s all too beautiful.

    Agree.

    It’s at the convergence of GOPe and Trump–failing to do *anything* for their actual voters, middle class married with children families.

    The Democrats abuse and mock them and make their lives worse. The Republicans say “oh, look they are beating you!” … and that’s it.

  74. countenance says: • Website

    Silly AOC doesn’t realize the only reason that the official American media even care about FDR’s Redliningocaust is because it’s a political weapon to plow through programs like AFFH as the supposed remuneration.

  75. This was not a problem in Westchester County, where the media-created poseur, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez grew up. The powers that be really really want her to be something.

  76. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    BTW, the Angolans went to Brazil. Our guys are mostly from West Africa.

    I’m–generous in spirit–willing to offer reparations:
    — $50000 scaled on age (young people highest)
    — Free flight to Africa.
    — If you renounce your citizenship.

    Another proposal for blacks oppressed by my racism, would be that they could simply sell their citizenship/residency on the open market to foreigners who applied, had the cash and passed a screening. (I.e. i wouldn’t take muslims as well as all the usual bad apples and welfare cases.)

    ~~

    A lot of what we need right now is simple bluff calling.

    The minoritarian ideology is a pack of lies. It’s purpose is simply for middle man minorities to be able to go anywhere, and have the host population majority as abused, weak, balkanized as possible–for easiest penetration and control. It’s an ideology with all the moral weight of yelling “bend over!”

    Call bluffs. Are you really oppressed by whitey? Go back to Africa! You are really oppressed by the white patriarchy? Ok we won’t show up for work this week. You really want to live with open borders? Great, we’ll separate, your nation gets open borders; our nation is closed.

    Call bluffs. Offering them what they all claim to want–life without the white man around.

  77. @Mr McKenna

    Rothstein.

    BTW, article by some African. Apparently the demand for blame-whitey tripe written by blacks, exceeds the supply of blacks who can write it. Perhaps we need a special FU visa category.

  78. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    My (jewish) mom lived in dorchester during this period. Not a lot of jews there these days…

  79. Barnard says:
    @Jack D

    Surveys conducted by companies like Bankrate have consistently shown between 50-60% of American households have less than $1,000 in emergency savings. In the case of the shutdown, companies were tripping over each other to show the impacted workers the most compassion. They might as well take advantage of the generosity while it is available even if they have money saved.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  80. Anon7 says:

    Student groups have plans for us:

    Also, don’t forget that the Red Guards in China, who eventually put millions in re-education camps, started as a group of middle school kids.

  81. Travis says:

    if redlining was so bad for Blacks why did blacks keep migrating into the Northern cities after redlining began ?

    In 1930 Philadelphia was 7% Black , with 125,000 Black residents. By 1950 Philadelphia had 375,000 Blacks and were 20% of the population. How was the Black population able to triple when they were so discriminated against ? Why did Blacks continue to migrate into Philadelphia when they were treated so poorly and restricted from buying homes ?

    In reality the redlining in Philadelphia depressed the real estate values of the white property owners in these areas. The Redlined areas of Philadelphia were 75% white, but the property owners were 95% white. Redlining made it easier for Blacks to migrate to Philadelphia by suppressing the property values in these areas. These areas already had lower property values before redlining began , due to a combination of demographics (mostly working class whites and recent immigrants) and due to the housing stock in these areas, which were mostly small, older row houses. Redlining did help suppress the real estate values in these areas, which enabled more Blacks to move into these neighborhoods.

  82. @Almost Missouri

    I think AOC is Kryptonite to our Democracy. She represents woman, fertility, nurturing, and healing; ideals which our society desperately craves. The vote was originally distributed to all free men not because all men were deserving, but to keep the peace. The partitioning of government into branches, bicameral legislature, and democratic elections were actions to distribute power and prevent its violent seizure by the few with corresponding violent resistance. Democracy is not designed to deal with the irrational appeal of the feminine. Calling AOC a blockhead is futile. No one expects her to be rational, logical, or intelligent. Her rise signals a fracture in our means of self governance. The antidote to the irrational appeal of AOC is signaled by our President’s reference to erection of the border wall without Congressional approval. Stymied by a Congress paralyzed in its own sea of dither, a strong President shall simply take what he wants. Just as a young beautiful woman is not punished by man for breaking the rules, so a powerful man will exercise his masculine “right” to remake the rules. Democracy is caught in a vise, pulled in one direction by irrational attraction to a femininity that has been driven almost to extinction in our society, and pulled in another by men who have seen their wills thwarted heretofore by an emasculated Congress, and who will respond to this failure directly with rejection of consensus and need for approval.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  83. Anonymous[399] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    $68 k is the average, which includes the high end GS-whatevers. There are a lot of low skill federal workers and, more numerously, workers for federal contractors, like security guards, who make a significantly lower wage.

  84. Jack D says:
    @Barnard

    Right, but I always assumed that this was the bottom 50% , not people making $70K+/yr. I understand that if you have a job at Wal-Mart and take home $400/week you are going to need to spend every nickel but if your paycheck is $1,200 then maybe you could buy less crap and spare $50/week for the rainy day fund? I guarantee you that each one of these folks has closets full of more clothes than they really need, cable subscriptions, a car newer and fancier than they really need, etc.

  85. @M. Hartley

    My dad says he’ll support reparations if the condition is that all welfare, etc and all other giver-ment charity directed at their communities ends when the payments are received.

    A big payoff to get rid of an ongoing obligation. Personally I think Cadillac would enjoy record sales, then a few months later Cadillac housing would become a thing.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  86. @Jack D

    … if browns … got their reparations, there would be a huge boom in sales of cars and flat screen TV’s and in 6 months it will all be gone.

    That’s why very rich people sometimes support the idea: the own the companies that produce and sell those kinds of things.

    If I owned a Cadillac dealership I’d be campaigning for this crazy bitch.

  87. i expect reparations in the 2020s. maybe not during president harris’ first term, but certainly by the second term.

  88. @El Dato

    She will say anything to get ahead. But it’s not populism.

    Correct.

    AOC is a sociopath that feeds on media attention. Much like DJT, though I am not convinced he’s a sociopath.

    One angle she has left open is her choice of partner. Rumor is that her other half is a white boy. If she loves her fellow PoCs so much, why isn’t she literally loving one?

  89. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    I would not underestimate AOC’s appeal.

    Agree.

    All the conservative operatives who thought it would be a great idea to try and make fun of AOC’s dance video should be fired and barred from any position in any conservative organization that involves more responsibility than pushing a mop.

    Crusty old conservatives making fun of a young, telegenic woman with some decent moves is horrific optics.

    I will now await the local keyboard Hefners to tell me, “meh, elbows too sharp, 2/10, would not bang.”

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  90. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    The point about affirmative action is that it transfers opportunities from middle-tier whites to talented-tenth blacks, while not affecting top-tier whites or benefitting bottom-80% blacks. The welfare money given to destroy the black family wound up going to pay the salaries of middle class whites running the programs.

    Reparations would be much more honest, and also benefit all the descendants of slaves. In return for ending all affirmative action, all set-asides, and making any form of political dealing based on race illegal, the 2 or 3 or 4 trillion dollars would be well worth it.

    If nothing else, it means cutting off the people who did NOT “earn” AA benefits, like recent African or Hispanic immigrants and paying money only to what is a historic American population.

  91. AndrewR says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Rothstein… That must be an ethnic Swedish name, right?

  92. Jack D says:
    @ChrisZ

    Moving the time line forward to the FDR administration makes some sense as slavery ended 150 years ago – the historical statute of limitations was starting to run out. However Ocasio’s little rhetorical sleight of hand to include Puerto Ricans and Mexicans in the reparations gibmedat doesn’t work (unless you are really dumb and willing to over look such “little” details) because there were few Puerto Ricans and essentially no Mexicans in the area affected by FDR’s redlining.

    The justification doesn’t really make any difference – it’s just an excuse. All that brown and black people know is that white people have more wealth than they do and since the races are inherently equal, the reason must be that the white people stole it from them somewhere along the line. They will listen to any politician who promises to take it from the white people and give it to them. Even if this is suicidal in the long run (see Venezuela where the poor are now literally dying because of redistributionist policies) they don’t care – they are going to support whichever party promises them more stuff NOW. This is why Republicans can never make any headway with blacks.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Saxon
  93. bomag says:
    @Paul

    So that is why illegal aliens from the third world are crashing our borders and going on the dole?

    Immigrants have to multi-task: one day they grow the GDP for the benefit of White people, according to the handlers; the next day they take stuff from Whitey and punish him in other ways, ’cause YTs been bad to POC in the past.

  94. Anonymous[261] • Disclaimer says:

    The cotton gin truly was a magnificent invention that has been tremendously under appreciated. Far more efficient at picking cotton AND never once did we have to hear a peep out of it. If only we could invent one that could do a lay-up or create vibrant Chuck E Cheese and Waffle House Worldstar videos, we’d hardly have reason to pay the way for black America ever again.

  95. @midtown

    Maybe the US Congress could rescind the Jones–Shafroth Act (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jones%E2%80%93Shafroth_Act) that made Puerto Ricans US citizens and The Constitution of Puerto Rico (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Puerto_Rico)?

    “The Supreme Court ruling stated that, at least in the cases related to criminal offenses, sovereignty of Puerto Rico ultimately resides in the United States Congress.[3]”

    [3] – Puerto Rico v. Sanchez Valle

  96. bomag says:
    @midtown

    … is there no mechanism for Americans to decide they want out of the arrangement?

    There’s a mechanism, but it’s been buried by institutional change.

    The current courts would never allow it.

  97. @Jack D

    Federal employees also have a savings plan:

    “The first 3% is matched dollar-for-dollar by your agency or service; the next 2% is matched at 50 cents on the dollar. This means that when you contribute 5% of your basic pay, your agency or service contributes an amount equal to 4% of your basic pay to your TSP account.”

    https://www.tsp.gov/PDF/formspubs/tspbk08.pdf

    Never heard one word in the standard NPR woe-is-me-the-Federal-employee-because-Trump story about them taking money out of their savings plan.

  98. My opinion about slavery reparations, which I usually don’t share with casual acquaintances is:

    I am in favor of reparations to descendants of slaves if, and only if:

    1. They can prove their familial connection to former slaves.
    2. They promise to emigrate from the US within 6 months.
    3. The descendants of Africans who sold others into slavery pay reparations.
    4. Islamic nations pay reparations to victims of their modern day slavery.

  99. bomag says:
    @Thea

    a lump sum one- time payment

    They’ll just be back for more.

    There is not good faith negotiation involved here.

  100. M.G. Miles says: • Website

    I don’t plug myself too often, but a few years back I did some research on the question of redlining to try to separate the fact from the fiction. The data I found was quite interesting (works cited are all listed at the bottom), so I’ll go ahead and link it if Steve doesn’t mind :

    Reparations for Redlining?

    http://thosewhocansee.blogspot.com/2014/08/reparations-for-red-lining.html

    • Agree: Hail
  101. Paul says:
    @El Dato

    World War II was the ultimate New Deal, Keynesian, government spending program. The result: The Great Depression ended. The debate over Keynesianism among mainstream economists was over.

    • Agree: byrresheim
  102. Marty T says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    The difference is that Jews actually suffered a tragedy while dirt people in the US have been given much more than they ever deserved.

  103. Paul says:
    @International Jew

    The slumlords were not interested in spending money to maintain rentals. They wanted the rents.

  104. Mr. XYZ says:
    @J.Ross

    Makes one wonder if Germany should unconditionally open its borders to Palestinian immigration in order to take the Palestinian problem off of Israel’s hands. After all, it’s the least that they could do for the Jews after murdering six million of them.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  105. Dmon says:

    I’d like to take this opportunity to propose the Cortez Unified National Tax. This tax would be based on an algorithm that essentially boils down to (the number of times an individual claims some type of discrimination or oppression/measured IQ). Cortez would define the upper limit. The number in the numerator would include every person in the population or group for which oppression is claimed. If no official IQ or proxy data (ie. SAT, GRE) is available, then the mean IQ of the group to which the person claiming oppression belongs will be used. So, for example, Cortez tax liability under the CUNT would be approximately 6 billion/84 (the numerator being everyone in the world minus white people).

  106. @The Wild Geese Howard

    All the conservative operatives who thought it would be a great idea to try and make fun of AOC’s dance video should be fired and barred from any position in any conservative organization that involves more responsibility than pushing a mop.

    Who exactly was doing that? Wasn’t that mostly made up–AOC trying to stretch her 15 minutes by claiming stuffy old white guys were dissing her moves.

    Her Boston University promotional video bit–uh, let’s just say it was obvious why she was picked for that. Two very nice reasons. On that basis–7/10, would bang.

    • Replies: @M. Hartley
  107. Clyde says:
    @Perspective

    Most PR’s that began moving to the US in the 1950’s moved to the NYC metro area, especially the Bronx.

    In 1950 just about all Puerto Ricans not living on the island, were living in NYC. Perhaps some in Florida and Philadelphia. Boston was too white for them. They were not spread around America.

    There are many that would be envious of the PR’s who got in to NYC before soaring housing prices and rents prohibited them and many others from moving in. They should consider themselves damn lucky.

    Same as third world immigrants, like from the DR and Mexico, the best economic move they ever made was getting into America, somehow. Most of the time scamming their way in. My take is the number one immigration scammers these days are from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. They know English so have a leg up. Border Patrol catches Bangladeshis all the time at the southern border. And the H1B racket/scam is dominated by India.

  108. Alfa158 says:
    @Arclight

    I think the general trend on reparations now is that it is no longer a one time payment, but instead financial subsidies and preferences until White people are extinct. Blacks feel they will then no longer be oppressed and held down by The Man and so will be stepping up into the sunlight highlands of what I call Amos ‘n Andy World, where they will have an advanced ordered society just like White 1950’s America but with a real good suntan. ( anybody as old as I am will remember the world as depicted in those old Amos ‘n Andy TV shows)

  109. Anon7 says:
    @Jack D

    It’s interesting to compare Black savings rates with Asian savings rates, which are higher. Asians tend to hate borrowing, live at home for longer until married, save a greater percentage of their income, have much lower divorce rates, use education to level the playing field, have a greater awareness of historical upheaval, and they don’t think that sports gives you a way out.

    Now that I think about it, I don’t recall any images or video of Asian families rendered destitute by the government shutdown.

  110. Luke Lea says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    “I would not underestimate AOC’s appeal.”

    I would not underestimate Tulsi Gabbard.
    https://goo.gl/hfG6m1

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
  111. Hail says: • Website

    Some think the reason Oscasio-Cortez will fail is that she is an unserious, bobble-headed idiot preaching something close to crackpot-socialism.

    I disagree. The reason she will fail is she cannot resist the temptation to race-hustle:

    we did not give to African-American and Mexican communities, Puerto Rican communities

    The bobblehead may simply be unaware, but there really were no “Puerto Rican communities” in the 1930s, nor Mestizo-“Mexican communities” to speak of, really.

    – 131.7 million: Total population counted on the 1940 Census
    – 2.0 million: Total ‘Hispanics’ counted on 1940 Census [1.5%] (a new quasi-racial category that was unclear to census takers at the time and remains ambiguous; some Whites with Spanish heritage were counted as such)
    – – of which, several hundred thousand prob. of mestizo Mexican origin [ca. 0.5%]
    – – of which, 70,000 were Puerto Rican [<0.1%]

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @J.Ross
  112. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    Following the USA’s short-sighted grab of Puerto Rico in 1898, there were reportedly 1,500 Puerto Ricans in the mainland USA by 1910; 12,000 by 1920; 53,000 by 1930.

    These tiny numbers all round down to zero, of course, even within their colonial beachhead, New York.

    By 1940, nine-in-ten of the 70,000 Puerto Ricans in the USA were in New York City, and their NYC population rounded up to above zero for the first time [0.8% of NYC pop., to be precise], but as noted above they still round down to 0.0% of the national population.

    The beachhead was established, though. Flash forward to the late 2010s: Reports suggest 6 million Puerto Ricans are today in the USA [1.8% of our total population], to 3 million on the island of Puerto Rico. A small-scale immigration disaster for us and a lesson in what Open Borders means.

    (I don’t know for sure would would assume the 6 million figure includes people of partial Puerto Rican descent. It could be something like 3 million full-Puerto Ricans and 3 million who average half-Puerto Rican, implying the equivalent of 4.5 million full Puerto Ricans in the USA.)

  113. Issac says:
    @George

    Never go full tradcat. Belief that Congolese are the equivalent of Germans, absent Catholicism in the latter’s history, is an unforgivable sin. He should be confined to sub-Saharan Africa for the rest of his life.

  114. @Luke Lea

    I kind of like Tulsi Gabbard on some things. But she’s a Hare Krishna, which is not on.

    This not a sect of Hinduism, it is a 50 year old cult. Hare Krishnas are weird.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Luke Lea
  115. istevefan says:
    @bomag

    Good point. I did not even pick up on the “we gave” crap. The we in “we” was White Americans, not blacks, Puerto Ricans and others.

  116. istevefan says:
    @midtown

    The point I was trying to make was that the Puerto Ricans spent much of the 20th century demanding independence, to the point of shooting up Capitol Hill, but we refused. Now they want to stay.

    As far as us having a mechanism to let them loose, I don’t know what it is. I imagine part of the process would involve them accepting such a release. And since that is a non-starter in 2019, they are here to stay. Hopefully we won’t make them a state and let them have 2 senators.

    • Replies: @Hail
  117. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:

    What must be done about Stop-and-Friskocaust?

    Gentrificaust?

    Immigrocaust that is replacing black communities with browns in California?

    And Puertocaust? Ocasio is a conquistador monster whose ancestors laid waste to the indigenous folks of the island.

    Well, at least we now know WWII was about hitler vs hitler. FDR was hitler too.

    Maybe the real Hitler can now be rehabilitated cuz he fought against the American hitler.

    And speaking of blacks in Puerto Rico, them slaves were brought over by Hispanic imperialists with name like Cortez. Another chapter in Puertocaust. Cortez and her ilk must fess up and pay tons of reparations to blacks. Shame on Latin whites in Brazil and other parts of Latin America for enslaving many more blacks.

  118. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Hail

    Who in this country has failed because of race-hustling or headbobbling? The deal with her is that the attention is wasted. She’ll be there fifty tears from now, talking insanity on policy, doing as the party instructs, and ensuring the flow of bakshiysh, like a louder John Conyers. But she’s not a thought leader.

    • Replies: @anarcocapitalist
  119. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Hare Krishnas are weird.

    At this point, no weirder than Mainline churches that worship holy homo and Evangelicals who worship Wall Street Zionists.

  120. Hail says: • Website
    @istevefan

    a mechanism to let them loose, I don’t know what it is

    Three steps:

    When nationalists take control of the U.S. government, [1] declare Hart-Cellar retroactively invalid, and [2] declare jus solis retroactively invalid as of date of Hart-Cellar. Some countries that went through long-term communist occupation have laws exactly like this, declaring the occupation period legally invalid.

    You may say this does not directly apply to Puerto Ricans. It’s striking the root of the tree and not the branches, true, but Puerto Ricans are a vine with a different root system. That is where part 3 comes in: [3] the new legal category Mainland United States would come into effect, that is, resident of one of the fifty states.

    The law could read:

    The Hart-Cellar Act, signed October 3, 1965 and effective June 30, 1968, is hereby retroactively invalid.

    Those persons who were legal citizens and residents of the Mainland United States, as of Oct. 2, 1965, or are descended from such persons, shall retain citizenship. Those whose citizenship dates to a time thereafter shall be recognized as defacto residents of the United States and will hereby transition to permanent residency.

    Welfare and other taxpayer-funded benefits shall hereafter be reserved strictly for citizens, descendants of the Oct. 2, 1965 Mainland U.S. population.

    New permanent residents who wish to apply for citizenship will have to wait no fewer than ten years from the date of this declaration, at which time new standards for new U.S. citizenship would apply; the application process shall take no less than five years and incur certain fees equivalent to not less than six months’ average gross salary in the United States in the year of application, to be paid in lump sum.

    Offer, as well, a reverse incentive to leave:

    Six months’ average gross salary paid in increments (not inflation adjusted) to any of the families who forfeit citizenship under the new citizenship regime and agree to repatriate and cede their new permanent residency.

    This could apply to as many as half of U.S. Puerto Ricans, as the Oct. 1965 date is about the midpoint of their migration (1950s to 1980s; plus the new, recent 2010s wave).

  121. densa says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Truth and reconciliation. First time I really thought we were headed the way of South Africa. The Rainbow Klan won’t stop until we’re dispossessed.

  122. @International Jew

    Clearly IJ you’ve never had anyone ask to touch your hair.

    After that sort of trauma, being herded into the cattle car or choking to death on Zyklon-B is nothing.

  123. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Mr. XYZ

    That’s not exactly what did happen but it’s closer enough for propaganda: that one crying girl in Merkel’s town hall meeting was Palestinian.

  124. Saxon says:
    @Jack D

    This is also why Cuck Right attempts to “reach out” to these people are pointless, since they have too low an IQ and are too impulsive and high time preference to care about some abstraction about future consequences. The other party says “vote for me and I’ll give you whitey’s stuff” and your whitesplaining™ about the fact that this kills incentives and will end in something like Venezuela is not something a population with an average IQ in the 80s can understand.

    It’s just a shakedown/demand for tribute. The proper response to this is to start getting violent.

  125. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Emblematic

    More like Haman. Amalek was exterminated. Haman was serially humiliated like a Wile E Coyote figure and finally killed himself. Haman’s tribesmen were not described as exterminated like Amalek but as enslaved and made to do whatever the Jews wanted.

  126. I think I’m beginning to understand what kind of leftist AOC is. I am no scholar of the history of socialism, but if you went back to Europe in the late 19th and early 20th century, you should find reformists willing to compromise, doctrinaire Marxists with their ideological theory-of-everything, and then “enthusiasts” with miscellaneous bright ideas for upending every social institution, in order to make a better world. AOC, with her amazing mixture of Green New Deal, Modern Monetary Theory, and racial reparations, seems to belong to the third category.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
  127. @Neil Templeton

    “The vote was originally distributed to all free men not because all men were deserving, but to keep the peace.”

    Yes, people misunderstand democracy. They think it is a “human right”, whatever that is. In fact it is a proxy for war. Instead of fighting Pyrrhic battles over political issues and the survivors inheriting the government, the ancients decided, why don’t we just count up the number of guys who would show up to the battle on each side and give victory to bigger side, sparing the actual bloodletting? Great idea. A true gentleman’s agreement. Led to 2500 years of progress in the West. It was still well understood at the founding of America, which is why you had to serve in the state militia to be eligible to vote.

    Then someone had the idea to hand out suffrage rights to people who would be useless in fight…

    • Replies: @Corn
  128. Russ says:
    @bomag

    And if they are ever confronted with the different earning power of various peoples, they launch into their canned tropes of how Blacks and Puerto Ricans created and built current civilization, but YT came along and stole it all.

    “Stole it all” is bad enough. But the worst of it all is that YT then induced such profound amnesia upon the robbed that they no longer can achieve a thing. Thus did Wakanda degenerate into a slew of mud huts. Very sad.

    • LOL: bomag
  129. @Mr McKenna

    Mr. M, I agree on reparations, but doled out slowly. First, I propose Free Public Education for all. Get back to me about Reparation Two, after you’ve taken full advantage of Reparation One.

  130. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:

    Ocasio is trouble.

  131. Corn says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Great points. Democracy isn’t a virtue. It’s a compromise. Most people don’t want democracy, they want a dictator who agrees with them.

  132. @Mitchell Porter

    She has injected the mating strategy of a woman into politics. When a man falls in love and commits to a woman, he is intoxicated by her presence and promise. Later, after the lust fades away, he is left with children who must be provided, and who’s existence is reward for his effort. Her promise is kept, though not as the man originally foresaw. With Socialism, the promise is unfulfilled entirely. Poverty and failure are the consequence. In the face of rebellion, the State turns about and, while still projecting a wonderful promise of forever in the now, exercises its brutal capacity to crush and dismember all who dare to question its failure to deliver as promised.

  133. It’s amazing how this young woman who is not from a rich family and is only a Congress person can manage to wear such attractive clothing.

    Mind you this senior-aged heterosexual male likes to look at attractive women wearing stylish clothes but if the woman is a “socialist” who hates the rich … well, one wonders where the money for her clothes comes from. She surely doesn’t shop at WalMart.

    Never forget: Lenin had a Rolls.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  134. @M. Hartley

    I notice this isn’t the first time you’ve posted a specious apologia for the Iraq war,

    I challenge you to find anything like that under my handle.

    masquerading as something different. Can’t imagine why.

    Yawn, haters gonna hate.

  135. @ChrisZ

    Ghost, I agree that our side should not underestimate Rep. O-C’s appeal. But I’m also starting to appreciate the disruptive energy she’s bringing to her own side. She may represent the rebellion of the “fringe” against their elite funders and enablers.

    Good comment Chris. And good post by Steve. I think this AOC bit is interesting in a number of ways and nods at some of the things that are coming down the road.

    — Fringe fight. Most obviously this was AOC muscling in and laying down a marker that blacks don’t get to own the victim bit, everyone gets a piece.

    — Moving forward the timeline. As JackD noted, it can’t all be “slavery” as that recedes into the ever more distant past. (And also that’s about blacks.)

    — Blaming government. The desire to claim specific government policies, rather than just vague societal claims. That way it’s even more logically straightforward to demand government programs–$$$–to explicitly correct.

    — Ahistorical nonsense. Obviously the Hispanics–Puerto Ricans especially–were essentially demographic non-entities in the New Deal. Sure there were a few Mexican farm workers and some Chinese and Japanese. But historic America is whites, blacks and natives. Other people’s are noise. It’s actually a mistake to get white people thinking too much about old timey stuff because then they’ll obviously “hey, your people just showed up–and decided to come here–why should you get affirmative action”. This is a problem with any of these historical “once upon a time” arguments, but some of these folks–like AOC–it’s just assert it and go.

    ~~~

    It’s the fringe battle that i expect will be more and more of a “thing” as whitey slips into minority status. That’s going to be ugly because blacks really do think that they and they alone are the ones entitled.

    I expect our future could well involve stuff like India’s system of “reservations” where various caste communities actually jockey to have their caste declared “backward” and hence entitled to dip into various reservation quotas. The US version–perhaps more dignified than “backward” is “victim”. We already have little skirmishes and set-tos over victim status–like the women’s march squabbles (with this gal laughbably claiming her exquisite victim status as a Jew). Expect a ramp up in seriousness\intensity.

    As i’ve noted a few times, multi-ethnic societies just naturally suck. If you have a clear, unambiguously economically and culturally dominant and empowered majority–like America’s whites used to be–then it can sort of work with minorities conforming to the dominant culture. (I.e. a society that is somewhat multi-ethnic, but not really multi-cultural.) But this cancerous ideology of minoritarianism has destroyed even that, while immigration is introducing a true multi-ethnic society.

    True multi-ethnic societies have only been successfully managed under empire under the “handle your own business, pay your taxes and don’t rock the boat” system. But unfortunately, our minoritarian elite wasn’t content to just destroy the nation’s majority demographically, but they’ve insisted on destroying traditional Anglo-Saxon liberties like freedom of association and instituted this instense busybodying by government poking into every nook and cranny looking for minoritarian rectitude.

    I think it’s fairly clear, we’re in for an Orwellian nightmare where there is ethnic spoils based policial allocation and monitering of everything.

    • Replies: @M. Hartley
    , @Jack D
  136. @AnotherDad

    Who exactly was doing that?

    Exactly. They found a couple of Twitter Trolls making fun of her. Could’ve been absolutely anyone. And probably was…

    They parlayed that into “white republican guys hating on AOC” and with compliant media the rest was history. There’s a phrase for this…what is it now….starts with Fake…

  137. AD, Whites don’t reproduce in shade. Hence, replacements are recruited. First the southern plantations, then the eastern cities and midwestern cities, finally, with the end of the frontier and the filling up time, the middle of America. Whites don’t reproduce when the margin is small. They’re not efficient. Especially the Crackers. It’s over. Until a good cleansing ground fire or a catastrophic crown fire.

  138. @AnotherDad

    blacks really do think that they and they alone are the ones entitled.

    All of your points are very well taken but I still wonder about this one. The blacks I know are beholden to MSM propaganda and very much down with “we’re all in this boat together” …all except Whitey of course.

    Blacks do maintain a high degree of self-conscious exceptionalism, but it’s no match for the onslaught of media propaganda, to which they are exceptionally susceptible.

  139. Luke Lea says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    That will be a problem. But it was through her mother, which makes it more understandable. She may have to make a change of some kind if she wants to go far.

  140. @International Jew

    What these geniuses overlook is that for homeownership to act as a source of “wealth building”, you need the home to appreciate or at least maintain its value.

    So suppose blacks had been dealt into the FHA loans program. Then what? The course of property values in most of the places blacks were moving into in the 30s, 40s and 50s was a steep downhill. Detroit, St Louis, Philly, Milwaukee, Newark: those weren’t places you built wealth, they were where you lost your shirt!

    Because of the Black influx followed by the dismantling of the right to exclude.

  141. @J.Ross

    I, for one, would watch a debate between her and Tila Tequila.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  142. Jack D says:
    @James Graham

    One? Lenin had at least 3 and perhaps as many as 9.

    https://smarthistoryblog.com/2016/07/29/lenin-drove-a-rolls-royce/

    And not just lousy used Rolls Royce’s that he seized from the capitalists but a fresh factory new one – he even got Rolls to give him a good price on it as part of a secret deal to buy airplane bomber engines. Remember what Lenin said about capitalists and rope? He knew whereof he spoke.

    All of these guys and gals, including Occasional Cortex, believe in socialism for thee, not for me. It’s like million mile global traveler Al Gore ranting about how you should be driving a smaller car. It really makes perfect sense . Humans are always interested in increasing their own status – if you want to stand above the crowd there are two ways to do this – you can either increase your own height or shorten everyone else’s (0r both). Occasional Cortex’s nice clothes will look even nicer when everyone else is wearing rags.

    • Agree: GermanReader2
  143. we gave white America the heirloom that appreciated overtime

    Well, yeah, I mean obviously, one must first appreciate having a job in order to appreciate getting overtime. There isn’t an overtime component to gimmedats..

  144. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    That’s going to be ugly because blacks really do think that they and they alone are the ones entitled

    What has surprised me is that (at least publicly) American blacks have been willing to accept people who are not American slave descendants (Obama) as beneficiaries of affirmative action. Whenever you see some news story about the black kid who was accepted to every single Ivy League school, it turns out that the kid is a Nigerian American Ibo. Or else they are Caribbean blacks (sometimes, but not always, very light skinned and more white than black). The Green Book piano player Don Shirley’s high achieving family was from Jamaica. His father was an Episcopal priest. “Dr.” Shirley had no real degree but he loved to (truthfully) brag that all of his siblings really did have doctorates. At this point, pure slave descendants like Moochelle are probably the minority among high achieving American “blacks”. And so far it doesn’t seem to have dawned on American blacks that these foreign interlopers have stolen 1/2 the AA seats from them. To the extent that you see any genuine ghetto blacks like Moochelle around the Ivy League, they are usually there because of athletics.

  145. J.Ross says: • Website
    @anarcocapitalist

    People laugh at Tila but she’s better with her money than Nicholas Cage or Chris Matthews.

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