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Commenter ihtness writes in regard to my new Taki’s Mag column:

Not long ago, Eric Raymond announced plans to write a book ( http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8229 ), with one of the sections being about “The Rectification of Names”. The subject is programming, but the idea is similar to what you’re talking about: “I like to find common tactics and traps in programming that don’t have names and name them. I don’t only do this because it’s fun. When you have named a thing you give your brain permission to reason about it as a conceptual unit. Bad jargon obfuscates, map hiding territory; good jargon reveals, aiding reflection on and and improvement of your practice.”

 
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  1. J.Ross says: • Website

    Barbara Ehrenreich to Marie Kondo: Speak English!
    Marie Kondo to Barbara Ehrenreich: Even though you are very old, you can still be useful to people if you are less dirty. There, that was English.
    https://nypost.com/2019/02/05/author-faces-backlash-for-racist-marie-kondo-tweets/

  2. We need a glossary of Saileristic terms.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  3. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:

  4. I like to find common tactics and traps in programming that don’t have names and name them. I don’t only do this because it’s fun. When you have named a thing you give your brain permission to reason about it as a conceptual unit.

    Ursula K. Le Guin explains (1985) that names are constraining, patriarchal artifacts:

    “She Unnames Them”

    https://www.thoughtco.com/analysis-of-she-unnames-them-2990526

    ThoughtCo.’s take:

    Eve clearly views names as a way to control and categorize others. In returning the names, she rejects the uneven power relations of having Adam in charge of everything and everybody.

    It is also a story about tearing down barriers. Names serve to emphasize the differences between the animals, but without names, their similarities become more evident.

  5. Who wants to read about the rectal fecation of anything?

    Does this book have a subtitle yet? You know, the part that comes after the colon.

  6. There is a proverb attributed to Confucius that goes something like “The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names”.

    The older I get, the more profound it seems to me.

  7. J.Ross says: • Website
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Confucius was asked what he would do if he had power and answered, “Rectify the language.” If you try to lead people you run into the standard set of political and control issues. If you have universal clarity, or cultural homogeneity, then you don’t need to lead people, because they will make the right decisions on their own.

    • Replies: @Bill H
  8. It so happens that Eric Raymond came up with a fantastic name for a very important phenomenon in modern political rhetoric, “Kafkatrapping”: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=2122

    Most iSteveians would get a lot out of a deep dive through his archives.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  9. @Reg Cæsar

    Everyone pull up a stool— it’s Reg with another visibly corny shitpoast.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  10. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    With friends like you, I don’t need enemas.

  11. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s also important to have standardized terminology so that everyone using various terms knows exactly what is meant by them. For instance, in medicine “pupils are equally round and reactive to light” means something very specific to people in the medical field. In contrast, “family values”, “hopes and dreams”, “proposition nation”, etc. can mean something very different to each person who uses them. There isn’t really a commonly understood definition of these terms. They’re intentionally vague so as to hold appeal to a very wide range of people. Unfortunately, the use of them tends to lead to unclear communication.

  12. Jason Liu says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Well yeah, the reason Confucians developed Rectification of Names is to stop people from undermining society by redefining everything.

    When I was young I didn’t understand why that was necessary, but now…

    Leftists like Le Guin find shelter in vagueness and relativism because they know their ideas don’t stand up under harsh scrutiny. The fact that she’s against names shows just how necessary naming is.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  13. @Reg Cæsar

    Really? I like to think my comments are impactful.

    • Replies: @Old Prude
  14. Not appropriate, but here anyways:

    • Replies: @Prester John
  15. Really? I like to think my comments are impactful.

    They do exhibit intestinal 42de. Spleen, too.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  16. anon[413] • Disclaimer says:

    “Ursula K. Le Guin explains (1985) that names are constraining, patriarchal artifacts:”

    They’re just mad because guys naming stuff first reminds them that we do most of the work and make most of the discoveries. Their whittle egos get bruised after a lifetime of being pampered by society with BS tales of patriarchy keeping them down. It’s like that spergy white guy who wrote one third of Wikipedia; the very fact that he exists pretty much proves their fantasies of equality wrong and that they aren’t as good. I mean, what kind of discrimination could conceivably account for a man volunteering to write Wikipedia for free? It’s an open platform, so have at it feminists…oh. Same with naming.

  17. As Jesus once said: “Render unto Confucius the things which belong to Confucius; but render unto Lao-Tzu the things which belong to Lao-Tzu.”

    I can’t believe I have to stoop to silly jokes to make obvious things apparent. Then again, Chuang-Tzu would have approved of jokes, and so would Nietzsche. So…

    MICHAEL PALIN: Stop hitting me!
    ERIC IDLE: Why? What’d ye come in here for?
    MICHAEL PALIN: I wanted to complain!
    ERIC IDLE: Oh, no, luv, it’s “getting hit on the head lessons” in here.
    MICHAEL PALIN: What a stupid concept.

  18. @Reg Cæsar

    Like a great Sphinx, you retain much digested wisdom.

    I mean this with respect: Stay solid, bro.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  19. Old Prude says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Oh, poo on the bunch of you. Get out of here. Scat!

  20. Anonym says:

    ESR had some great race realist stuff back in 2003. I remember it jolting my thinking back then, although Steve was the real red pill.

    http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=129

    http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=142

  21. Jon says:

    OT, but a very iSteve topic. Miami just signed an Australian punter. He’s mid-twenties and spent some time playing Australian rules at a high level. Could be interesting.

    https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2019/02/06/miami-hurricanes-sign-intimidating-heavily-tattooed-australian-punter/

  22. El Dato says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Orwell wrote a book on that.

    It is also a story about tearing down barriers. Names serve to emphasize the differences between the animals, but without names, their similarities become more evident.

    It’s like with “reporters” from NBC. If they are just nameless Twitter accounts, their NPCness become more evident.

    “Bee-Dee-Bee-Dee-Bee-Dee.”

    RT has no work to do anymore, just needs to cite output from Jake’s Checkmark Trainwreck:

    Offended journalist makes Twitter suspend user over ‘learn to code’ career advice

    • Replies: @El Dato
  23. One of the challenges in programming comes from running out of names, which is remedied by “overloading,” or the use of the same name for several variables or objects. Much as with people sharing the same name, it is often effortless when proper context is maintained, but sometimes you get glitches you didn’t foresee when you fail to keep proper context.

  24. LeGuin was an interesting author. She was apparently of the Susan Sontang school of thought, and simply wanted to end Western civilization. At the time she wrote, there were several other authors of that school (Barry Malzberg being one of them), and even the most prominent science fiction writer, R.A. Heinlein, was writing books that envisioned a sort off non-western society.
    In one of LeGuin’s books, she took the “survivors of shipwreck” theme and changed it a bit. The protagonist, essentially murdered every other survivor, for the express purpose of ensuring that human life would not take hold in a new place.
    At the time, US and Western society looked so solid that such works appeared to be simple anomalies (LeGuin, for example, was published by Baen’s publishing house while Jim Baen was still alive. Baen tended to publish adventure / military stories, and LeGuin’s work was antithetical to that). LeGuin was taken no more or less seriously than was Erasmus in his time: as hyperbole that might prove useful, as Orwell’s _1984_ looked useful, in avoiding “extremes”.
    US and Western society doesn’t look quite so stable now. Both LeGuin’s and Orwell’s books have become “how-to” manuals.

    Counterinsurgency

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @DCThrowback
    , @njguy73
  25. El Dato says:
    @El Dato

    I hope this was written in jest.

  26. El Dato says:
    @WowJustWow

    Genius.

    Reminder that Eric Raymond used to edit “The Hacker’s Dictionary” (in paper from, from MIT Press, which was then extended into 2nd and 3rd edition, completely unnecessarily; “serious IT people” don’t get it – frack them) and wrote “The Art of Unix Programming”, which has much wisdom and many a crazy-ass developer lacking a person who can properly instruct him/her of of today should well reflect on.

    But everyone knows that, right.

    The original Jargon File: https://www.dourish.com/goodies/jargon.html

    The Art of Unix Programming: http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/taoup/html/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  27. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    If news reporters, say, took such logic seriously, then every single news report would read: “Something happened.” And even that might be controversial.

  28. @The Last Real Calvinist

    There is a proverb attributed to Confucius that goes something like “The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names”.

    The evil genius of critical theory is that it puts the wrecking ball in play by merely asking “Who gets to decide what things are called?” (Along with ancillary questions like “On what basis are these names decided?”) So the issue has been politicized well before we get around to considering whether a given name or concept is “useful” or not. (“Useful to whom, hmm?”)

  29. IHTG says:

    The Germans are good at this, or so I’ve heard.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Kratoklastes
  30. Seraphim says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    It was more than a proverb. It was a saying, a discourse of Confucius about ‘Zhèngmíng’, rectification of names:

    “A superior man, in regard to what he does not know, shows a cautious reserve. If names be not correct, language is not in accordance with the truth of things. If language be not in accordance with the truth of things, affairs cannot be carried on to success. When affairs cannot be carried on to success, proprieties and music do not flourish. When proprieties and music do not flourish, punishments will not be properly awarded. When punishments are not properly awarded, the people do not know how to move hand or foot. Therefore a superior man considers it necessary that the names he uses may be spoken appropriately, and also that what he speaks may be carried out appropriately. What the superior man requires is just that in his words there may be nothing incorrect”.
    — Confucius, Analects, Book XIII, Chapter 3, verses 4–7, translated by James Legge

    Plato called it ‘orthotes ton onomaton’, the correctitude of the words, the exactness of the words, their use in their proper sense. He was saying the same thing as Confucius.

  31. kihowi says:

    I think programming as a source for interesting analogies has been underused.

    Fundamentally, programming is about managing complexity. You could write everything in a block of text with a lot of go-to’s but our brains can’t deal with it. So, all good programming practice is about making it more like a description that we have evolved to understand. This happens here, that happens there and only there. This thing does that. Why? Because that’s what it’s called!

    All of that is done because it works and it works because our minds are naturally want to do everything that way. Analogies to real life are easy and obvious.

    eg people have a hard time distinguishing between labels and descriptions. Those people are fact checkers, which means that they check facts. Why? That’s what they’re called! So that’s what they do.

  32. AndrewR says:
    @El Dato

    I subscribed to that magazine as a kid… Getting it was one of the highlights of my month.

  33. El Dato says:
    @IHTG

    Is this a reference to Klemperer?

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  34. El Dato says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    But did she act on it and go live the good live with lesbian aborigenes?

    Did she ever!

  35. Anon[419] • Disclaimer says:

    Is there a term for that phenomenon where the grievance guys exercise passive-aggressive power from below by changing a term that everyone understands and accepts, calling the old term anything from problematic to racist or ***ist or harmful or whatever? Like negro to black to African American to black; transsexual to transgender; actress to actor; and so on and so forth.

    This is an extremely effective tactic. You don’t want to cave in since merely by using their new term you let them set the rules, but as it gains currency you start to look bad in others’ eyes using the previous term, and then when you’re finally ready to change, yet a new term materializes.

    As always, I think the right should study and copy tactics used by the other side. As Saul Alinsky said in his fourth rule for radicals, “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If a term is considered subjectively offensive by a group, you cannot use it. I’m sure that there is an “except for those in a position of power” exception, but ignore that, and always insist that you aren’t in power and the other side is. I mean, seriously, are whites in power on campuses? I’d answer that, but I have to get to work on my mandatory diversity and inclusion statement to put in my application package for a promotion, which will go to a lesbian trans morbidly obese Native American.

    P.S.: Could someone direct me to the rumored photo of Ursula K. Le Guin where she is young and hot and doesn’t look like a wizened MtF tranny?

  36. dvorak says:

    OT: iSteve’s tweet on oil and gas industry. Revenue or profits per employee translates to how much an industry wants to grind down its employees.
    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/companies-revenue-per-employee/

  37. Anon[419] • Disclaimer says:
    @kihowi

    YAGNI from extreme programming is something that applies in real life, I think. KonMarie sort of intersects with that rule: “You aren’t going to need it.” Make the simplest thing that could possibly work (minimum viable product), throw it out there, and fix and expand as real world needs become apparent.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_programming
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_aren%27t_gonna_need_it
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product

    Also, the book Don’t Make Me Think has had a long life with its idea of testing computer user interfaces by just grabbing someone and putting them in front of the display, giving them a task, and asking them to speak out loud everything they are thinking as they try to do it. This instead of more formal focus groups and product testing. This idea can be applied to daily life in various ways.

  38. I noticed my son and his friend doing yesterday this when talking about something stupid a kid on their team did: “He JL’d it.” I asked what that meant and they explained that the kid did something that another kid (JL) had done.

    Without realizing it, I have been doing this, or seen it done, my whole life. You hear it commonly with the phrase “He/She pulled a [INSERT NAME OR OTHER NOUN].” In google, typing “He pulled a” and some of the relevant search results are “He pulled a Thanos” and “He pulled a Houdini,” which link to pages discussing how someone did something similar to what Thanos (committing genocide instantly, apparently) or Houdini (escaping) that does not have another good name.

    If I knew a name for this, I might have noticed it before now.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
    , @Neuday
    , @El Dato
  39. Romanian says: • Website

    Spandrell has referenced the rectification of names as well, and he also has a post on how the use of wrong names is a form of loyalty check.

    https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/06/03/the-purpose-of-absurdity/

    Soon later Zhao Gao found some excuse and executed Li Si and all his family, and took his prime ministership. He obviously knew too much. Then he proceeded to execute all those little Schelling Points that were the emperor’s brothers and sisters, so there was no contest about who had the right title to the crown. Still after Huhai was secure in his thrown, he was starting to be a little uncooperative with Zhao Gao. The Chen Sheng rebellion had started, and the empire was having trouble suppressing it. The Emperor blamed Zhao Gao for the mess and he had a point. But Zhao Gao didn’t like that. He started to think that maybe they should have a change of emperor, but he couldn’t be sure he could pull it off.

    So Zhao Gao brings a deer into the palace. Grabs it from the horns, calls the emperor to come out, and says “look your majesty, a brought you a fine horse”. The Emperor, not amused, says “Surely you are mistaken, calling a deer a horse. Right?”. Then the emperor looks around at all the ministers. Some didn’t say a word, just sweating nervously. Some others loudly proclaimed what a fine horse this was. Great horse. Look at this tail! These fine legs. Great horse, naturally prime minister Zhao Gao has the best of tastes.

    A small bunch did protest that this was a deer, not a horse. Those were soon after summarily executed. And the Second Emperor himself was murdered some time later.

    This story made it into the Records of the Grand Historian, by Sima Qian, around 100 BC, through which it became part of common knowledge for Chinese intellectual life. From then on, everytime somebody tried to pull off a similar stunt, opposing ministers could say “you’re trying to say a deer is a horse, huh!”, which could get other lukewarm ministers to wake up and support you. Or get you killed with your whole family.

    In the West of course we have Hans Christen Andersen’s tale about the kid and the emperor’s new clothes.

  40. @J.Ross

    Poor naive Barbara Ehrenreich. She thought being a life long liberal meant being on the side of the angels and never having to say you’re sorry. Also free speech and free expression. LOL. Well, welcome to the dystopia you helped create, Barbara. Dingbat.

    What she did:

    “I will be convinced that America is not in decline only when our de-cluttering guru Marie Kondo learns to speak English.”

    Hysterical SJW backlash.

    No, what I’m trying to say is that America is in decline if American celebrities no longer speak English.

    Renewed hysterical SJW backlash.

    No, okay, haha I was just kidding. Joke. Haha. Please don’t hurt me.

    What she should have done:

    “I will be convinced that America is not in decline only when our de-cluttering guru Marie Kondo learns to speak English.”

    Hysterical SJW backlash.

    Hysterical SJW backlash proves that America is in decline. Thanks for further proving my point, dumbasses.

    • Agree: Prester John
    • Replies: @anon
    , @J.Ross
  41. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @silviosilver

    another wise slant said power comes out of the end of a gun
    the man with the gun gets to decide what things shall be called
    we have one group that is afraid people will remember this because they can not win that way and another who could wi that way but has been convinced by the first group that winning that way the only way that matter would be losing and so assists the first group in making sure no one thinks about the fact that all this could be over tomorrow if only they picked up a gun.This is a familiar phase in a civilizational cycle you would think we would remember you can not abandon the martial foundation of civilization just because you have developed the superstructure that rests upon it a house does not support its foundation.

  42. anon[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri

    so we have a females one a kike and one a slant arguing over who rules amerika now.
    SAM SAM PICK UP THY MUSKET MAN

  43. tyrone says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Hey! don’t poo poo in the comments

  44. njguy73 says:
    @J.Ross

    I think Barbara Ehrenreich has reach her post-fuck-giving stage.

  45. DCThrowback says: • Website
    @Counterinsurgency

    “Political language… is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.” George Orwell

  46. Lurker says:
    @Jason Liu

    In my younger, idealistic, years I thought this kind of cultural solvent was probably a good thing. Because it could lead to better, redefined, terms. I didn’t yet realise that the destruction was the whole point, an end in itself.

  47. @william munny

    If I knew a name for this, I might have noticed it before now.

    Yeah, maybe.

    Maybe not much sooner though. I was about 30 before I ever heard of a synecdoche or metalepsis, even though I was aware of having done what those terms describe years earlier.

    You know, it’s not as though I read the definition of a synecdoche and only then realized that shit this is something I actually do.

    And if I had heard of a synecdoche earlier on in life, I probably would have ignored it, writing it off as as some ten dollar word grammarians concoct to torture us with, rather than looked it up.

  48. Jack D says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    but without names, their similarities become more evident.

    Yes, if we have no separate names for “skunk” and “house cat” , just “small furry animal” then you might invite either one into your house.

    The Left doesn’t really object to naming things – it’s just that THEY want to have to power to name them or rename them (or not name them) in whatever way is advantageous to them. The huddled masses of the world are all named “Future Americans” and the incorrigible old white men of America are named “Incorrigible Old White Men” – they have no problem with naming names when it suits them.

    Lewis Carroll had it pinned in Alice in Wonderland:

    ‘When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

    ‘The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

    ‘The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.’

    To site a practical application, you have Goering’s famous quotation (apparently himself quoting an earlier source): “Wer Jude ist, bestimme ich.” The power to name things can mean the end of a career or even life and death. Goering was able to save the career (and maybe even the life) of his friend Erhard Milch because he had the power to label him.

    If Elizabeth Warren really HAD the power to name herself an Indian, she might be President, but she overreached her naming power. She had enough naming power to name herself an Indian for legal career purposes but you need more power (more power than she had) to make the name stick on a national stage.

    Contests on the Left are generally pre-determined according to which of the two contestants has more Diversity Pokemon Points. This is why the outcome of the Old Indian vs. the Smirking White Boy match was foreordained. So Warren thought that she had won the naming contest in the Indian Lady vs Evil Trump match going in – this is why she submitted to the DNA test. She didn’t realize that it was a tag team match and that the Real Indians were going to jump her from her left while she was looking right at Trump.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  49. Bill H says: • Website
    @J.Ross

    Reminds me of a conversation I had with my niece, who is a “liberal.” She was arguing that something was “radical,” as I pointed out that it could not be if we had engaged in it repeatedly over several decades. I quoted the definition of the word for her and she said that she did not mean that when she said it was radical, so I asked her what she meant when she called it radical. She could not answer the question, only that whatever radical is, it is bad.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  50. I was pretty excited when I first heard “comprehensive immigration reform.” Its meaning was apparent. But very quickly it came to mean everything from what I had thought it meant to its very opposite meaning, outright open borders. The meaning of the phrase had been changed, consequently robbing it of all meaning.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  51. TheJester says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I’ve never understood the “anti-discrimination” gambit.

    Having had an outstanding classical education through six years in the university, I came to believe that cognition, intelligence, and education (as opposed to making guttural sounds like an ape) turn on making both broad and precise discriminations … and that includes discriminations about race and gender.

    So, for feminist Ursula K. Le Guin, we are back to pre-Genesis … where nothing has names and nothing exists. No binaries … nothing but guttural sounds. This should satisfy the Postmodern community. Everything can then become a solipsistic social construct … everything from gender, to chairs, to justice, to nuclear fusion and the Laws of Thermodynamics.

    Maybe the Laws of Noncontradiction and Contraries are also social constructs … so X and -X can both be true at the same time. If true, it follows that there is nothing to talk about.

    I keep coming back to the phenomenon that a proclivity for illusion, delusion, and hallucination are closely associated with the Schizophrenic Personality Disorder. How does one relate to a society experiencing mass hysteria and delirium?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  52. @kihowi

    Yes. Good points. Farming plays that role for me. What do you use to cultivate row crops? Why a cultivator, of course. You plow the field with a plow,and plant with a planter. But does anyone except Redneck Farmer and The Last Real Calvinist know why the Combine is so named?

  53. @J.Ross

    Babs Ehrenreich, an “echt” leftie if there ever was one, hoisted on her own petard. Love it!

  54. Jack D says:
    @El Dato

    No , he’s not kidding. He just doesn’t understand that retyping BASIC programs from the back of a kid’s magazine circa 1989 is not the same thing as being a programmer. He lost interest in STEM when he was 12 or 13 (probably when the math got too hard for him) and has never looked back. He is too much of an egomaniac to understand that his “programming” credentials are laughable. In his own self-estimation, a man of his talents could have been a programmer or an engineer or a surgeon or anything he put his mind to. Egomaniacs always overestimate their abilities.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  55. @South Texas Guy

    Who cares? A classic, featuring one of my faves “Big Iron”.

  56. ‘When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

    ‘The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

    ‘The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.’
    –Lewis Carroll

    “Kto kovo” (“Who, whom?”)
    –Vladimir Lenin

  57. @El Dato

    I’ve found if you can code, new languages aren’t that hard to pick up, although Basic is a bit.. like its name. Procedural to OO wasn’t as hard as I thought it might be.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  58. Neuday says:
    @william munny

    So glad my last name isn’t Lewinsky.

  59. @Anon

    The term you are looking for is respect.

    To refer to someone by name or to refer to their distinguishing characteristics assumes that you have some familiarity with them. If they are sensitive, beaten-down, disadvantaged this may be presumptuous.

    colored->black->african-american->[next iteration]
    crippled->handicapped->differently-abled->[next iteration]
    retarded->special-needs->[next iteration]
    midget->little people->[next iteration]

    &c. &c.

    Any term regardless of its innocuousness eventually acquires a stigma and will have to be replaced in polite society.

    The most ridiculous instance is the necessity of replacing “retarded”. Has any retarded person in the history of the universe ever gotten offended because you called them retarded?

    First recorded instance is Yahweh. Only the high priest was allowed to say it aloud, only one day a year, only inside the Holy of Holies.

  60. Jack D says:
    @Anon


    Oop, sorry, wrong Ursula.

    This is the real Le Guin:

    To her credit (I think) she kept the same hairdo all her life and let her hair go naturally gray so she is not a woman of 1,000 faces like Hillary or Liz Warren.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  61. @El Dato

    Which one?

    The conductor, the actor, or the diarist?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @El Dato
  62. Anon[325] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    There is a proverb attributed to Confucius that goes something like “The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names”.

    Oddly enough, they rightly called the Confucian Exam the ‘eight-legged essay’ but continued with it anyway. Knowing something is ridiculous doesn’t prevent one from participating in it.

    Look all around us. We live in a world of Global Village Idiots. Even many Libs agree that there is PC all around. PC is a term known to everyone. Bill Maher had a show called PIC to show that he’s a free-thinker. But he never much deviated from its core tenets.

    In some ways, globalism has spread high-tech and knowledge all around. But it has also spread idiocy and degeneracy all around. In the past, when urbanites had some class and respectability, they could justifiably feel superior to the rubes in small towns and villages. They had learning, arts, and kultur. The rubes had folk music, broken fiddle, and overalls for fashion. So, to leave the village and make it in the city was to be elevated.

    But now, the urban centers use global satellite media to spread degeneracy, stupidity, and idiocy all around the world. So, we are to get all excited about a bunch of parading homos and associate that stuff with the ‘rainbow’. If a man dons a wig and says he’s a ‘woman’, we better believe in it…. but if he changes his mind a few weeks later and says he’s a man again, we better go along again. We are supposed to believe that Covington Highschool produces neo-KKKids while the Black Israelites are just a bunch of nice fellas quoting from the Bible and talking about ‘equality’. And BLM must be true because there are of course so many white KKKops going around gunning down innocent black kids. It’s all Inverse Reality.

    Today, being part of the globalist community is to be an idiot. And what passes for fashion? Tattoos, piercing, green hair. And how does one make a political statement? Go into permanent PMS mode with ‘pussy hats’ and vagina-costumes. What kind of shows do urbanites watch? Lena Dunham’s GIRLS, now replaced by worse idiocy.
    This is sophistication? This is refined and cultured? It makes bumpkins in overalls look more classy.

    To be part of cosmopolitan urban community once used to mean you were more classy, cultured, and refined. Now, it means you’re just a global village idiot. Also, the notion of ‘global village’ is misleading because it implies the meeting of hearts and minds of ALL THE WORLD on an equal basis with equal rights to say their say. Actually No.
    In fact, Global Village is an electronic artificial bubble village created by Media Monopolies. Being part of Global Village doesn’t mean you’re part of larger humanity. It means you are part of a Virtual Village manufactured by a handful of media conglomerates that get to decide that is real and unreal in this Village. What is real news and fake news in this village? It’s about elite media power, not mass median power. So, the elites deign to tell us what is real and what is fake. Elites design the props of their virtual reality. According to GV, Russia Collusion is real. CNN and MSNBC are trustworthy news while Alex Jones peddles conspiracy theories. Now, Jones has often been a kook, but have CNN and MSNBC really been better? If we lived in a true global village, people would agree that they’re all peddling in conspiracy theories. But WE don’t count in GV because WE don’t get to control the levers that prop up the virtual illusion of Global Village.

    According to GV, the US is a nation where poor helpless blacks are set upon by the KKK and neo-Nazis. But in fact, racial violence is almost entirely black on white. But because Global Village Idiots were mentally and emotionally weaned in the surreality of GV, they believe in falsehood as real and reality as ‘triggering’, or prickly to the Iron Bubble. According to GV, Jews are forever the Holocaust People who need protection when, if anything, they are the dominant power in the US and the world. GV says US needs to say in Syria to protect Israel when, in reality, it is Israel that has been bombing Syria and supporting ISIS and Alqaeda there. GV tells us that the US is a ‘liberal democracy’ but Congress passed a bill that would criminalize BDS and justice for Palestinians. Jewish Power hates white Americans, but white Americans, sucked into Con Inc. version of GV, act like Jews and white Christians are the best of friends. Jews say they care about Muslims who are hated by white Christians, but it was Jewish Hollywood that spread the Muslim Terrorist trope and it was Zionists who insisted on Wars for Israel that destroyed millions of Muslim lives. As for Palestinians, they hardly show up on the GV radar.
    Now, things would look differently if the global village were truly democratic and equal. After all, on the ground level, there are people on both left and right who know the truth about the Palestinian situation. But GV ignores and even suppresses them; they have to rely on alternative news.
    In a true Global Village that treats all peoples the same, our sense of the world would come equally from Palestinians, Syrians, Iranians, and Russians as from globo-homo media conglomerates. But despite there being independent voices who try to spread the truth, they have no control over levers of GV. The World according to GV is defined and shaped by the Deep State. Across borders, it’s like the Seep State as US influence seeps into EU and other parts of the world. And this deep seep state tells Europeans that 100s of million of African migrant-invaders will do wonders for the Continent. If people had an honest view of Africa(and why it is the way it is) and Europe(and why it is the way it is), they would realize that tons of Africans in EU will wreck the whole place. That would be global reality. But the GV says otherwise. Why, all those blacks are Magic Negroes, and the future will be bright. This Daily Mail story shows the difference between truth and falsehood.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6674169/Jurors-shown-harrowing-final-moments-Holby-City-stars-daughter.html

    Why does GV command such power and authority among the elites, the people who really matter? One reason is status. Elite-educated people like to be associated with kultur, sophistication, and refinement(even in the Age of Degeneration), and GV controls respectable media like NYT, New Yorker, Atlantic, and etc. In truth, those are largely the mouthpieces of the sinister Deep State, but they still come with the veneer of ‘class’ and ‘respectability’. Often, it is less the product than the venue that determines worth. So, even though HAMILTON musical is trash, it played in respectable venues in NY and won the praise of all-the-people-that-matter, so all the status-keepers-and-strivers flocked to it. The critical community also praised New STAR WARS and BLACK PANTHER as great important works. Also, GV owns the brands that matter. Harvard is a brand, so it doesn’t matter that too many of its graduates and bigshots have been some of the most dishonest and repulsive human beings on Earth. The brand counts, and most strivers, preferring status over integrity and truth, flock to the brand. As long as GV controls venues and brands, it can get away with so much nonsense. Homomania and Trannymania are ridiculous, BUT if the top institutions, brands, and venues promote them, gee… maybe they are really special. Notice even Charles Murray bent over to ‘gay marriage’, the silly bugger. And Terry Teachout is supposed to be a conservative critic of culture. That fat body cried like a baby over HAMILTON and fumes about Russia cuz it won’t over to globo-homo propaganda. What a worthless fat cuck to Zion. Just another global village idiot.

  63. It’s been said already in the comments, but rectification of names is a Confucian idea. In modern jargon, if you are an emperor you should fulfill the ideal role expectations of an emperor; if a subject those of a subject. What Raymond intends to do may not be the same thing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectification_of_names

    The teaching of Confucius consist of five basic relationships in life:
    • Ruler to subject
    • Parent to child
    • Husband to wife
    • Elder brother to younger brother
    • Friend to friend

    ….

    Each person has a social standing and a social name. With their social names comes responsibilities and duties. Ruler, minister, father and son all have social names therefore need to fulfill their required social duties of respect (The rectification of names). For example, in the study of Chinese culture a child only speaks when a parent permits them to speak.

    Following orders from a person of authority means that you are showing respect, therefore that you are following the Rectification of Names without explicitly acknowledging it.

    Raymond’s idea (from the snippet presented) is that to name something makes it easier to think about. Philosopher of science Ian Hacking has written about this, beginning with The Making and Molding of Child Abuse.

    Child abuse, in our current reckoning, is the worst of private evils. We want to put a stop to it. We know we can’t do that, not entirely. Human wickedness won’t go away. But we must protect as many children as we can. We want also to discover and help those who have already been hurt. Anyone who feels differently is already something of a monster.We are so sure of these moral truths that we seldom pause to wonder what child abuse is. We know we don’t understand it. We have little idea of what prompts people to harm children. But we do have the sense that what we mean by child abuse is something perfectly definite. So it comes as a surprise that the very idea of child abuse has been in constant flux the past thirty years. Previously our present conception of abusing a child did not even exist. People do many of the same vile things to children, for sure, that they did a century ago. But we’ve been almost unwittingly changing the very definitions of abuse and revising our values and our moral codes accordingly.

    He continues in The Social Construction of What?, which is not a wacky relativist work, but is more nuanced than twitter exchanges.

    Speaking of twitter, whatever happened to anti-essentialism? Put simply, it’s MLK’s hope that his daughters would be not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. For instance, essentialism “entails the belief that those characteristics defined as women’s essence are shared in common by all women at all times. It implies a limit of the variations and possibilities of change—it is not possible for a subject to act in a manner contrary to her essence. Her essence underlies all the apparent variations differentiating women from each other. Essentialism thus refers to the existence of fixed characteristic, given attributes, and ahistorical functions that limit the possibilities of change and thus of social reorganization.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essentialism

    Thus, if you.encounter a white person, you would judge her as an individual rather than by some possibly mistaken generalization, and not imagine that she has an inalterable essence that, for example, manifests unintended and invisible aggressions justifying genocide of that ascriptive class.

  64. @Jack D

    Goering was quoting Karl Lueger, the excellent lord mayor of Vienna in the late 19th century.
    Often denounced as explicitly anti-Semitic, the serious meaning of this slogan is in fact friendly to Jews who were willing to assimilate, as indeed very many were in the Habsburg Reich: the Wittgensteins can stand for the many successful industrial families who did so, and Mahler can stand for the intellectual class. They had been invited into the common home of Christian civilisation, and they had both accepted and been accepted.

    Goering meant more or less the same thing, but with the Christian polish worn off: behave and we’ll leave you alone. Don’t behave, and we won’t.

    Had there been no war, that’s how things would have remained.

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    , @J.Ross
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  65. @The Last Real Calvinist

    Checkout the great poem “Naming of Parts” by Henry Reed.

  66. njguy73 says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Names serve to emphasize the differences between the animals, but without names, their similarities become more evident.

    I sure hope this Eve, after unnaming everything, didn’t see what Adam named a “chicken” and what he named a “sabre-toothed tiger” and she didn’t only see similarities.

  67. njguy73 says:
    @Counterinsurgency

    The protagonist, essentially murdered every other survivor, for the express purpose of ensuring that human life would not take hold in a new place.

    She probably considered Cain evil becuase he didn’t go far enough.

  68. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Almost Missouri

    Little context note: cleaning the houses of others as a hired-out maid was one of the blue collar jobs Ehrenreich took for her book Nickel and Dimed. She hated it and regarded the scheduling as impossible.

  69. @silviosilver

    “Useful to whom, hmm?”

    The only real answer to that is “No you, you SOB. Who the Hell died and made you a god?”. The person who asks such a question is an enemy, and it’s better to fight at once than to weaken yourself.

    Counterinsurgency

  70. Anonymous[120] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheJester

    I came to believe that cognition, intelligence, and education (as opposed to making guttural sounds like an ape) turn on making both broad and precise discriminations

    Speaking of precision, do you refer to discriminations that are both broad and precise, or to broad discriminations and precise discriminations?

    And is there not a tension between broadness of categories and precision?

    How were you able to do six years of classical education at a university? Aren’t most four years? What was your major?

  71. Jack D says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    I wish what you were saying was true, but it isn’t. Lueger’s anti-Semitism went far beyond your description. Lueger as a politician almost by accident discovered that anti-Semitism was a big vote getter among the Austrian working class and once he realized that he banged that drum loudly. Fortunately in that time and place, drum banging was about all he could do although no Jews at all were allowed to work in his administration. The most charitable thing you could say about him is that he was anti-Semitic for cynical motives and didn’t really mean it. Later on, certain people (Hitler) read his stuff and did take it seriously and did take action based on his words. This shows you that words can be dangerous even if you don’t mean them and therefore it is not unfair to hold Lueger historically responsible for what happened later even though his personal anti-Semitism was more talk than action.

    Lueger was a personable kind of guy with lots of friends and as it happened “some of his best friends were Jewish” (thus leading to the famous remark). This doesn’t excuse his anti-Semitism one bit – this is the classic racist modus operandi, making exceptions for people that they know personally. This is just part of the rationalization for their racism – almost all (Jews, black, Hispanics) are awful, but my friend (Abe, Lamar, Jose) is not like the others. Maybe in fact they ARE like the others and you are mistaken about the group as a whole?

    As for Goering, likewise he was personally charming and was willing to protect his friend Milch but he was an important leader of a movement that made clear that their goal was the total elimination of European Jewry. He gladly participated in the plunder of art works and other property from Jews and knew more about the Final Solution than he was willing to admit. My only regret is that he was able to escape the hangman’s noose.

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  72. El Dato says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Heinlein wrote a story on this appearing in the collection “Assignment in Eternity” which seems to steal the Dianetical tricks from his compadre Hubbard:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_(Heinlein)

    The story postulates that humans of superior intelligence could, if they banded together and kept themselves genetically separate, create a new species. In the process they would develop into a hidden and benevolent “ruling” class. The story invokes the notions of the General Semantics of Alfred Korzybski and the work of Samuel Renshaw to explain the nature of thought and how people could be trained to think more rapidly and accurately; critics have said that both systems are misrepresented and never claimed the kinds of results shown in the story. [citation needed] The material on human intelligence and self-guided evolution is intermixed with a more standard “secret agent” adventure story.

  73. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Old Palo Altan

    And once whites are dead this is exactly how Han and Hispanic alike will regard Jews.

  74. TheJester says:

    Speaking of precision, do you refer to discriminations that are both broad and precise, or to broad discriminations and precise discriminations?

    And is there not a tension between broadness of categories and precision?

    Sometimes generalizations are called for … and sometimes not. Broad discriminations and precise discriminations are not contradictory.

    How were you able to do six years of classical education at a university? Aren’t most four years? What was your major?

    I have Bachelor and Master’s degrees in Philosophy … and had finished my coursework for a Ph.D. in Philosophy when the Vietnam War joined me in the early 1970s. My academic focus was on ethics and logic. I stayed in the military, saw the world, taught ethics at a military academy, participated peripherally or directly in four wars, used the simple artifice of logic as a secret weapon for problem identification and resolution, rose to a position of high rank and responsibility, and, from experience, can now ratiocinate for better or worse on military strategy, foreign policy, and the moral exigencies associated with using military force. I am a pacifist at heart with a firm belief in the Catholic-based Just War Doctrine.

    I could not serve in the US military today. It is ethically and morally rotten to the core.

    I mention the above only to applaud the benefits of classical education in many professions outside of academia. At the same time, I’m also appalled at the dumbing down of our universities. I’ve taught at three major universities and, in those times, challenging students with politically incorrect points of view was seen as the POINT of a university education.

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    , @Anonymous
  75. El Dato says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    For any language you will work for a few years on improving style, circumlocutions, composition approaches and ways of expressing the problem to yourself and to the next reader of your code. You will have to accumulate a set of personal tools and code snippets to consult. Plus you will have to gain knowledge about how all the task-specific libraries actually work and can be put to use elegantly and concisely. Add some skills in testing, logging, debugging, designing, bulletproofing, assuring-of-security, documenting, project management and teamwork. Lots of work demanding lots of attention.

    It’s the difference between frankly embarrassing beginner’s stonemasonry work and … something better.

    This difference explains why many products are unsafe, crap themselves on wrong input or disgorge data, are unmaintainable or have generally horrible design.

    (I’m believe in the necessity of an apprenticeship approach for building a “developer” profession btw.).

    Mr. Popken may well find that his code skills will be insufficient to have anything approximately marketable by the time pedestrian programming is taken over wholesale by neural-network based compositing software.

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  76. Anonymous[120] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Lueger was a personable kind of guy with lots of friends and as it happened “some of his best friends were Jewish” (thus leading to the famous remark). This doesn’t excuse his anti-Semitism one bit – this is the classic racist modus operandi, making exceptions for people that they know personally.

    If his modus operandi was assessing individuals he meets as individuals, regardless of race, that undercuts you claim that he was racist.

  77. El Dato says:
    @william munny

    “He JL’d it.”

    Verbing is a good thing – it orthogonalizes usage.

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  78. El Dato says:
    @Jack D

    Yes, I’m afraid this is exactly it.

    Here is a Real Programmer with a C-64, from the very diversity-aware Quanta Magazine but why not!

    Priyamvada Natarajan has pioneered the mapping and modeling of the universe’s invisible contents, especially dark matter and supermassive black holes.

    Yes. I grew up in India. My parents are academics, so I grew up around books. I loved science and math. But I was also interested in history, writing, poetry, art. My parents provided me with advantages that made a big difference. My dad bought me a Commodore 64 before people in India knew what a personal computer was. My parents had also given me a telescope and microscope; I picked the telescope. I was part of an amateur astronomy club, and when I was 15, the director of the Nehru Planetarium, the astrophysicist Nirupama Raghavan, came to speak to us. I told her I had a computer and asked if I could help with her research. So she said, “What are you interested in?” The thing that I have always been crazy about is maps. Celestial, terrestrial, any kind of map.

    So she said, “Why don’t you write a program to plot out the sky map that you see in the newspaper every month, produced by the astronomical society of India?” So I went home. It was a really hard problem; she told me later she didn’t think I would come back. I had to teach myself spherical geometry. I worked like crazy. Six weeks later, I figured it out; my program worked. So I went to see her. I showed her the sky maps I had made, and basically her jaw dropped. Then she said, “OK, this is very impressive, but what if you go to Boston to study, and you want to look at the stars and planets?” I said, “Oh, I sorted that out. The way I’ve written the program is you can put the latitude and longitude of anywhere on Earth.” At that point she had a conversion moment; she became incredibly supportive of me. I would do computations for her. So I got my first taste of research.

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  79. El Dato says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    This guy

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTI_%E2%80%93_Lingua_Tertii_Imperii

    The fun thing nowadays is that one can no longer make the difference between rank brainrot of obese functionaries and in-your-face alternate reality salesmanship by fat-tongued propagandists,

    Pompeo: America ‘obligated’ to fight ‘Hezbollah’ in Venezuela to save ‘duly elected’ Guaido

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  80. @Ozymandias

    The root of the phrase is “reform,” which can mean anything in a strictly literal sense, making it appealing to slippery political serpents.

  81. @El Dato

    When Alexander Haig was Secretary of State in 1981, he talked in this hyper-conceptual general staff officer jargon that everybody made fun of as incomprehensible. I rather liked it because I could usually decipher it without too much trouble. It probably didn’t endear him to Reagan, who fired him pretty quickly.

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  82. Anonymous[120] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    She is occupying a plum job that should have gone to an American.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  83. Seraphim says:
    @silviosilver

    We know who decided what things are called:

    “And God formed yet farther out of the earth all the wild beasts of the field, and all the birds of the sky, and he brought them to Adam, to see what he would call them, and whatever Adam called any living creature, that was the name of it. 20 And Adam gave names to all the cattle and to all the birds of the sky, and to all the wild beasts of the field, but for Adam there was not found a help like to himself. 21 And God brought a trance upon Adam, and he slept, and he took one of his ribs, and filled up the flesh instead thereof. 22 And God formed the rib which he took from Adam into a woman, and brought her to Adam. 23 And Adam said, This now is bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of her husband”.
    That was certainly the ‘Adamic language’, variously called the ‘language of angels’, the ‘language of birds’, altered after the destruction of the Tower of Babel and the ‘confusion of languages’.

    ‘Giving names’ means to define, to give a definition: “a statement expressing the essential nature of something”. A name is ‘right’ when it expresses the essential nature of the thing defined, its ‘sense’, its ‘truth’.
    For the Greek philosophers the name giver was the ‘nomothetes’ – the law-giver, called also onomatourgos – creator of names.
    Socrates: “Then, as to names: ought not our legislator also to know how to put the true natural names of each thing into sounds and syllables and to make and give all names with a view to the ideal name, if he is to be a namer in any true sense? And we must remember that different legislators will not use the same syllables. For neither does every smith, although he may be making the same instrument for the same purpose, make them all of the same iron. The form must be the same, but the material may vary, and still the instrument may be equally good of whatever iron made, whether in Hellas or in a foreign country;- there is no difference” … Then, Hermogenes, I should say that this giving of names can be no such light matter as you fancy, or the work of light or chance persons; and Cratylus is right in saying that things have names by nature, and that not every man is an artificer of names, but he only who looks to the name which each thing by nature has, and is able to express the true forms of things in letters and syllables. (Cratylus).

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  84. @EliteCommInc.

    Seriously, tho. Just cuz I’m busy fitting parts together and ask when’s dinner doesn’t mean they gotta go off unnaming shit. Slow ya roll, laydeez.

  85. @El Dato

    As I suspected.
    I have read his diaries, which give a marvellously immediate picture of life on the lowest rung in wartime Germany. I recommend them to any one who wants to discover the reality of Nazi Germany at its petty worst.

    I asked how to find his house when I was in Dresden, and was amused to note with what disdain my question was met. It was clear to me (to my satisfaction) that the typical Dresdener was anything but overjoyed to find that his beautifully restored city was primarily known to all too many tourists through Klemperer’s unflattering portrait. I suspect that his later (very successful) life as a Communist functionary had also failed to endear him to them.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  86. Art Deco says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Reagan fired him after 18 months because he and others were fed up with Haig’s serial threats to resign, a bit of gamesmanship Haig had learned from Henry Kissinger. The last time he told Reagan in a conversation that he had a letter of resignation in one hand, Reagan concluded the meeting without incident, discussed matters later with aides, then sent Haig a letter of acceptance before he’d seen Haig’s letter. Harry Truman also had no patience with this sort of behavior; Harold Ickes was most surprised to receive from the President a letter of acceptance after he’d sent the Chief Executive one of his ritual letters of resignation. Unlike Nixon, both Reagan and Truman had run public bureaucracies before sitting in the Oval Office.

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  87. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    That’s the wrong way to think about it. Did Wernher von Braun occupy a plum job that should have gone to an American? India’s loss is our gain. She is clearly a very talented and exceptional person. It’s one thing not to want another million Mexicans or another 50,000 interchangeable H1B programmers and it’s another not to want world class top talent for your team. If we didn’t snap her up, maybe she’d be working for Team Russia or Team China. If you look at American Nobel prizes, what % were to “old stock” Americans? Even the racist Brits of a century ago knew enough to want Ramanujan.

  88. Jack D says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    The way Klemperer was treated as a “Jew” by the Nazis (despite having converted to Christianity in 1912 and having a non-Jewish wife) would be enough to turn anyone Communist.

    The Klemperers were forced to put down their household cat, a tomcat named Muschel, because of a restriction as to Jews’ ownership of pets. – I knew about many of the stupid racial laws that the Nazis passed but that’s a new one on me. Some of them (almost) make sense on some level, that you don’t want Aryans working for Jews, etc. but not being allowed to own a cat? That’s just nuts. Were they worried that they would convert the cat to Judaism?

  89. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Bill H

    Porn star Mercedes Carrera (recently arrested for child molestation and narcotics: don’t do porn, kids) did a video with Gavin McInnes before his unpersonning where she beautifully demonstrates the go-to reversal of the “sexual objectification” term. Which means that, as good as her analysis was, it’s wrong, because Marxists never mean what a normal person would assume they mean by a term. Marxists always have a private meaning, usually traceable to some 19th century economist nobody remembers. In this case, “sex object” does not mean “an inanimate object lacking agency” (as is almost always assumed), but a telos, as in “the object of the game.” Which is not even a negative thing anyway.
    Buried within this episode of the wisdom of Confucius (and of course the Chinese are perfectly aware of it) is a suspiciously clumsy overlap: no distinction between folks seeing clearly and folks agreeing with the holder of the eye of the beholder.

  90. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Art Deco

    This is a poignant illustration. Trump’s late claim to fame was management, and here he is trampled by disloyal, unworthy, eminently fireable, unelected bureaucrats.

  91. @Jack D

    Christians desired the conversion of the Jews, while nineteenth century pagans desired their expulsion from Europe and failing that, their destruction.

    The two attitudes are essentially different, a truth which a similarity of the vocabulary of blame for Jews remaining outside the general community does not weaken.

    Felix Mendelssohn was a happy, contented, and devout Christian; I doubt that Erhard Milch was that sort of a Nazi. The first was incorporated into a living and receptive Body; the second was but a cog in a soulless machine.

  92. TheJester says:
    @silviosilver

    Thanks … the power of names: You name it, you created it. You created it, you control it. You control it, you can (oh, well) kill it.

    The current contest between reality and the Postmodern shmucks is names and nuances to take control of naming conventions. What are we talking about? Their version of reality or ours? Names (and who accepts them) will decide the contest.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  93. Seraphim says:
    @Jack D

    Her name is a perfect illustration of the ‘rectitude of names’. In French ‘gouine’ means ‘dyke, lesbian’.

    Her father was the noted anthropologist Alfred Louis Kroeber, the disciple of Franz Boas, the “Father of American anthropology’ and champion of cultural relativism. Although his family is often described as Protestant, Kroeber attended the Ethical Culture School, which though officially nonsectarian was associated with a secular humanist strand of Judaism. He was first married with Henrietta Rothschild, then to Ursula’s mother Theodora Covel Kracaw, daughter of a recently immigated ‘Polish’ owner of a general store in Denver. She became an anthropologist also.
    There is not a secret that all individuals central in the shaping of the science of anthropology were Jewish, both in Europe and America. There is no secret either, that the main thrust of ‘cultural relativism’ was an attack against the European (Christian) culture (especially against its ‘anti-semitism’ and ‘nationalism’) very much in tune with the ‘Frankfurt School’.

  94. @The Last Real Calvinist

    Nu, as a Calvinist you should know Genesis 2-19
    “And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.”

    (Calvin’s Commentary)As to the names which Adam imposed,
    I do not doubt that each of them was founded on the best reason; but their use, with many other
    good things, has become obsolete

  95. @Reg Cæsar

    As in disproportionately adversely fecally impacted?

  96. @Kaganovitch

    Yes, indeed.

    That’s why Le Guin’s unnaming is so heretical and dangerous.

    It’s also another reason why I find the story of Babel so compelling: it’s about the one people breaing down into separate nations because they can no longer understand each other. But it’s also about the very names for things being splintered and scattered.

    • Replies: @Kaganovitch
  97. Anonymous[261] • Disclaimer says:
    @SIMPLEPseudonymicHandle

    Leftists also like to play the obfuscation game. It’s uncanny how often something they say, or even a word or phrase they use, is the opposite of the truth. ‘Woke’ is a good Current Year example. Mindless NPCs who parrot what the media tells them are ‘woke’ but people who disagree by stating facts and logic and see through propaganda are, what, asleep?

    Orwell wrote about this in 1984. The Ministry of Truth was the distributor of propaganda, the Ministry of Love was where prisoners were tormented with their worst nightmare, etc.

    They really love this bizarro opposite nonsense. It’s like when Trump was elected president many went on about Orwell and 1984, when in reality, his election was a healthy step away from an Orwellian nightmare.

  98. @Unobserved Spectator

    But does anyone except Redneck Farmer and The Last Real Calvinist know why the Combine is so named?

    Oh, I do, I do. But I won’t tell. 🙂

  99. Seraphim says:
    @Seraphim

    Of course, the nomothetes was the ‘Philosopher King’.

  100. @Seraphim

    I concede all your points. They are well taken. But you must admit that “The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas” is a superb indictment of utilitarianism, no?

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  101. @The Last Real Calvinist

    We really are circling the drain. May God have mercy on our civilization.

  102. Anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    ESR is quite a writer and in my opinion probably knows the truth about race and society but knows the consequence of saying anything.

  103. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheJester

    What are we talking about? Their version of reality or ours? Names (and who accepts them) will decide the contest.

    Has anyone written on this?

  104. @IHTG

    The Krauts are excellent at it, but in a good way: they sticky-tape together words with crisp, precise meanings, to arrive at another word with a crisp, precise meaning.

    I remember my co-students struggling during first year Contract: one of the readings was a famous UK decision (UK HL [1983] 2 AC 34), and one of the participants was a Kraut company called Stahag Stahl und Stahlwahrenhandellsgesellschaft.

    But when you break it down, Stahlwahrenhandelsgesellschaft is just “steel-ware commercial company”. I was pretty sure that the ‘handelsgesellschaft‘ bit should have been separated, but case citators always concatenate it with stahlwahren. I guess it’s daunting for monoglot Anglophones to see that many letters in a row – particularly with so many ‘runs’ of consecutive consonants.

    Anyhow – put slashes in the right place and German compound words make sense:
    • schaden/freude
    • welt/anschauung
    • wirkaufs/inginieur
    • geistes/krank
    • wirt/schafts/wissen/schaften
    • wirtschafts/prüfungs/gesellschaft

  105. @El Dato

    That talk is best watched from the start; one of his main points is the source of my conclusion that we have nothing to fear from .gov’s attempts to get to a 1984/’We’ scenario by using technology (Zamyatin’s “We” predates 1984 by decades, and is far darker).

    Uncle Bob’s point: coders rule the world indirectly, because we tell the machines that run the world, what to do… and nobody who thinks they give the orders can check our work.

    My corollary: given that .gov cannot attract and retain first-decile talent, and given that first-decile talent that works for .gov for more than a month leaves with a visceral hostility towards for .gov … all the genuine ‘1%’ programming talent in the known universe is outside of the dreaded ‘MIG’ (‘military-industrial-government’ complex)

    2nd Amendment folks often carry on that the government is outmatched when so much of the civilian population is armed: in a “battle of the programmers”, the government has the programming equivalent of pointed sticks, and the anti-government has shit from Stargate:Universe. To date, the programmers have sat on their hands.

    Programmers/coders as a group tend to have an anarchistic bent: if a really talent-rich phyle (like 8lgm or [email protected]) decided to have a genuine crack at fucking with .gov systems in a sustained and deliberate way (concentrating on known network vulnerabilities, and especially on critical nodes), society would stop. Electricity, water, logistics/coordination: the fucking lot.

    Fortunately, every .gov cyber-retard battalion is staffed with fucking idiots (prima facie – because they work for .gov), so nation-states are incapable of doing any significant damage to one another – they think Mudge and Lamo were good.

  106. Seraphim says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    I cannot either admit or reject the superbity of ‘Omelas’, because I haven’t read anything written by the lady in question. Too many nebulous awards make you suspicious. Anyhow, science fiction is not my cup of tea, least of all ‘feminist science fiction’. Neither is anarchism.

  107. JackOH says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    “Rewarding the Confusion of Names” is a 25,000-word essay I’d liked to have written on the intellectual history of post-1945 America. I don’t have the legal or philosophical chops, but I think a lot of what we talk about here is that “rectification of names” in American political discourse is actively discouraged.

    I think anyone who took on the challenge of writing about America rewarding the “confusion of names” and discouraging their “rectification” would get uncomfortably close to the idea that our government is something of a criminal racket operating under color of law and deliberative process. Just a thought.

  108. Anonymous[352] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheJester

    Very interesting. Thank you.

    Could you give an example of how logic could be such a powerful weapon for problem identification and resolution? Regular logic seems so basic. Are you talking about that or something more esoteric?

  109. Anonymous[352] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheJester

    352 again here. I find it very helpful to hear these kinds of specifics, and I am grateful for them, but be sure you don’t dox yourself.

  110. Seraphim says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    While I can’t say anything about Mahler, I have some reservations about the Wittgensteins. Namely about the one that people have more or less heard of, Ludwig, the philosopher.
    “While he was at the Realschule, he decided he had lost his faith in God and became an atheist”.
    “In his own writings Wittgenstein frequently referred to himself as Jewish, at times as part of an apparent self-flagellation. For example, while berating himself for being a “reproductive” as opposed to “productive” thinker, he attributed this to his own Jewish sense of identity, writing: “The saint is the only Jewish genius. Even the greatest Jewish thinker is no more than talented. (Myself for instance).”While Wittgenstein would later claim that “[m]y thoughts are 100% Hebraic” as Hans Sluga has argued, if so, “His was a self-doubting Judaism, which had always the possibility of collapsing into a destructive self-hatred (as it did in Weininger’s case) but which also held an immense promise of innovation and genius.”
    He became a member of the ‘Cambridge Apostles’, he was a homosexual and is suspected that he was one of the ‘Cambridge Nth’ (Soviet spies).

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
  111. @Seraphim

    Thank you for your comment, which contains some fascinating quotes from the great man; ones which I had not come across before. I like them because they resonate with my own (non-Jewish) judgement about the limits of the much vaunted Jewish intellect. Talent, often very very great, but no genius (here the Mahler you don’t want to talk about might be brought into the picture … but not tonight).

    In any case you, as a Christian, will agree with me that what matters is not the doubts which a man may have throughout his life, but the decision which he makes at the end of it. And Wittgenstein asked for a priest as his own end approached, and was buried with Catholic rites.

    His most influential disciples were Peter Geach and his wife Elizabeth Anscombe, both professors of philosophy at Oxford, and both deeply traditional Catholics who viewed with alarm and increasing disgust the secularisation of the Church after Vatican II. They were therefore (and of course) militant supporters of the Church’s traditional liturgy.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  112. Seraphim says:
    @Old Palo Altan

    Well, I do agree with you. I do not doubt (without compelling reasons) the sincerity of Jewish conversions. They fill my soul with joy (“I tell you that there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous ones who do not need to repent”). Should I talk about St. Paul?
    The problem of the conversion of the Jews (like the marranos) is an extremely thorny one.
    I left Mahler out the discussion, because it is generally admitted that his conversion was purely opportunistic, to be able to accede to the position of director of the Vienna Hofoper. You hear these mantras repeated at every turn: ‘Mahler’s formal conversion was opportunistic and apparently not devoid of pricks of conscience’, ‘Mahler was forced to be a Christian’. But I couldn’t be happier if the contrary was true.
    Wittgenstein was born and raised Catholic.
    Mahler converted.
    I do not doubt the sincerity of Siegfried Sassoon’s conversion, which he illustrated for ten years after his conversion (which came ‘after a lifetime of mystical searching’ ).
    Or of Brother Nathaniel Kapner.

  113. I’ve no time for Mahler, either as a man or as a composer. But I sincerely hope that his conversion made some impact upon his last moments here below.

    The real converts are to be cherished; the fake ones pitied.

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