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From the BBC:

‘Racist food photography’: Is social media fuelling ‘cultural appropriation’?
By Megha Mohan

“Food media is predominantly generated by white people for white people, so when the subject veers toward anything outside of the Western canon, it’s not uncommon to see things generalised, exotified, or misrepresented. ”

Filipino-American Celeste Noche, who is a food and travel photographer, shared her thoughts on the “exotified” depiction of certain recipes within the blogging and gourmet community on the podcast The Racist Sandwich.

“I think microaggressions in social media are reflective of food media as a whole in that appropriation,” Noche tells BBC Trending.

A lot of Cultural Appropriation stuff like this is simple rent-seeking.

The best job in the world is being heir to a songwriter, like Hugh Grant in About A Boy who has never had to work because his dad wrote Santa’s Supersonic Sleigh in 1958 and his heirs still get royalty checks every January.

As a Filipino, Celeste Noche feels she deserves to get a cut of every dollar that white people spend on Filipino food.

Granted, white people don’t particularly care about Filipino cuisine, but my wife once made me a big bowl of panzit to take to a potluck dinner at work in 1988.

That money is rightfully mine.

So Ms. Noche feels she deserves a payout. Or at least she should be able to shame all white people out of taking photos of Filipino dishes so they’ll have to hire her to take the photos for them.

Similarly, as a white person and thus a relative of James Clerk Maxwell, I feel like I deserve a royalty payout from every user of electro-magnetic stuff in the Philippines.

As it turns out, there is a way for me to profit from Filipinos using Maxwell’s Equations.

But that would involve me learning about them, which would be hard.

And then I’d have to do electricity work that Filipinos value enough to pay me, which would be even harder.

That might even be worth my while, except Filipinos themselves are not banned from using Maxwell’s Equations, so what’s the point?

Maxwell published his Equations for everybody to read. Worse, Filipinos feel entitled to Culturally Appropriate them. So it’s hardly worthwhile for me to bother since my White Privilege doesn’t extend to a monopoly on Maxwell’s equations.

OK, I’ll take a cut of the T-shirt money

 
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  1. Sounds like there’s ample scope for a pseudoscientific take on those consumer product commercials: 9/10 people who tried both can’t tell the difference between Crapola Margarine and real butter, sort of thing.
    Maybe invite Celeste to have a panel of photographers of varying ethnicities make photos of signature dishes from around the world (the same dishes, of course) and put on a great exhibition at which the dishes are consumed and the anonymised photos are graded for: whiteness; ethnicity/íes; sexual orientation; and age of the snapper?
    The results would have to be collated and confirmed by the lead statistical analysis specialists from the ethnic background of the photographers to ensure fair play, of course.
    Oops, sorry, I think I’ve taken that too far:

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  2. Haha “Filipino cuisine ” is a contradiction in terms! Deep-fried spring rolls drowned in gallons of vinegar? That’s not cuisine, that’s barely even food!

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "Filipino cuisine" is the world's single most disgusting cuisine. It's as though the recipes were designed by children, with huge amounts of sugar as the main ingredient. Filipino food is the world's only traditional cuisine that could be replaced by three squares a day at McDonald's and significantly improve the health of the people. Many Filipinos are moving to other diets to try to reduce the plague of diabetes and heart disease in their families. So a pb&j is a big improvement for Filipinos.
    , @pyrrhus
    Yes, it's appalling. The only decent food I got in the Philippines was very anglo...
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  3. What is Celeste Noche’s take on Rodrigo Duterte?

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  4. Maybe food available on EBT cards should match the ancestral origins of the recipient. Blacks would have to accept payment in grubs, cockroaches and bushmeat.

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    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    Blacks need to stop ordering Chinese takeout, French fries, enchiladas, and pizza. Whites should stop oppressing Japs by buying sushi. And those atheist Jews who eat Vietnamese spicy noodle and beef bowls on Christmas are just conscience-free usurpers of culture.

    "Cultural appropriation: it's what's for dinner."
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  5. My neighbour is a Filipino and he recently contracted an eye infection for which he was prescribed a course of antibiotics. I wasted no time in telling him that he was appropriating the Scientific genius of White men.

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    • Replies: @Days of Broken Arrows
    Good job! And after you told him that, I hope you let him know he should not use electricity, drive a car, use social media, or listen to recorded music. All are forms of "cultural appropriation" when done by non-whites.

    And that's just for starters...
    , @Jefferson
    Jim Jones are you the White man who runs a Black church in San Francisco?
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  6. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Mikey Darmody
    Haha "Filipino cuisine " is a contradiction in terms! Deep-fried spring rolls drowned in gallons of vinegar? That's not cuisine, that's barely even food!

    “Filipino cuisine” is the world’s single most disgusting cuisine. It’s as though the recipes were designed by children, with huge amounts of sugar as the main ingredient. Filipino food is the world’s only traditional cuisine that could be replaced by three squares a day at McDonald’s and significantly improve the health of the people. Many Filipinos are moving to other diets to try to reduce the plague of diabetes and heart disease in their families. So a pb&j is a big improvement for Filipinos.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    “Filipino cuisine” is the world’s single most disgusting cuisine. It’s as though the recipes were designed by children, with huge amounts of sugar as the main ingredient."

    Not really.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_cuisine

    True, Filipinos suffer from higher rates of diabetes, but that is other than surprising for a carbohydrate-loading nation, whose staple meals include rice, bread, sweet potato, corn and other food with high levels of sugar content.

    Now, to the topic at hand. This blog post is much ado about nothing. Some two-bit blogger talks about microaggressions and food, and it becomes a "story" for the Alt Right, one that perpetuates their narrative.

    In reality, she is a complete fool. Giving her digital ink only feeds into the foolishness known as the Coalition of the Fringes.
    , @Jack D
    Think of it as the Asian version of Pennsylvania Dutch cuisine (also based on the idea of contrasting sweet and sour). I don't see too many 300 lb. Filipinos like the folks I see in Lancaster, so it can't be that bad.

    If we are doing cultural appropriation, isn't Filipino cuisine largely "appropriated" from Spanish cuisine (as well as Malaysian, Chinese, etc.)? They can keep Filipino cuisine if they give back all the Spanish influences. They even have to give back the names of the dishes, let alone the recipes. Lechón, longganisa , tapa , torta , adobo , kaldereta, mechado - give them all back. I think that leaves them with salted fish and rice which is I think what they were eating before the Spanish showed up.
    , @Chrisnonymous

    Filipino food is the world’s only traditional cuisine that could be replaced by three squares a day at McDonald’s and significantly improve the health of the people.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgBLQIJEcbE
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  7. @jim jones
    My neighbour is a Filipino and he recently contracted an eye infection for which he was prescribed a course of antibiotics. I wasted no time in telling him that he was appropriating the Scientific genius of White men.

    Good job! And after you told him that, I hope you let him know he should not use electricity, drive a car, use social media, or listen to recorded music. All are forms of “cultural appropriation” when done by non-whites.

    And that’s just for starters…

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  8. “Cultural appropriation” is only claimed by people whose cultures are the equivalent of the 98 lb weakling.

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  9. “That money is rightfully mine.” – lolled. Nice work, Steve.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    It's a line from Matt Groening's "Life In Hell" cartoon around 1980.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    OK, I’ll take a cut of the T-shirt money
     
    That’s even funnier. Love the subtlety of the small gray font.
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  10. @Anonym
    "That money is rightfully mine." - lolled. Nice work, Steve.

    It’s a line from Matt Groening’s “Life In Hell” cartoon around 1980.

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  11. For Filipinos to bellyache about food in this context is especially whack-a-doo. Half their dishes are just disgusting amalgamations and appropriations of others’: fried chicken & spaghetti? Spam? Has this lady ever even been to a Jollibee?

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    C'mon!

    How about the pig snouts and bungs deep fried and served with slimy okra and bitter melon with a side of poured-from-the-number-10-can plum sauce cut with fermented coconut vinegar?

    Or the beef offal and tendons swimming in that melted sepia black lump sugar that smells like hexane?

    Huh? HUH?

    Now send all your money to Pinoy!

    , @Jefferson
    "fried chicken & spaghetti?"

    Fried chicken and spaghetti is the epitome of Western cuisine, a.k.a the White man's cuisine. There is nothing Filipino or Asian in general about it.

    "Has this lady ever even been to a Jollibee?"

    Jollibee serves hamburgers and french fries. Talk about culturally appropriating the White man. People with Chinky Mongoloid eyes didn't invent fries and burgers.
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  12. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Steve,
    Maxwell’s Equations have more to do with the fact of radio and television. Power electricity such as hydro electric projects has more to do with such pioneers as Faraday, Coulomb, Ohm, Ampere, Volta, Galvani, Oersted, Tesla, Henry etc – many of whose names are commemorated today as the names of fundamental electrical units.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It's actually possible to do everything an electrician or an electronic technician will ever do, without the least ( or only a cursory overview of) Maxwell, and further, a large percentage of electrical engineers will never actually use Maxwell's equations on a practical level in their whole career.

    True , what you will use has been derived from, or is mathematically provable by, Maxwell.

    It's much like solid state physics: if you aren't actually fabricating semiconductors you don't need a bit of it. Bipolar transistors (NPN and PNP) can be viewed as variable resistors controlled by current and FET's (and vacuum tubes) variable resistors controlled by voltage.

    You will use Ohm's law a lot, Kirchoff once in a while and if you are doing RF the Smith Chart.
    The rest is cookbookery and divide and conquer.
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  13. Small and unimportant note: it’s pancit (more common spelling) or pansit (“correct” or standard Filipino spelling), not panzit. This is the first time I’ve ever encountered anyone spell it like that, so it just amuses me.
    I also take offense to anyone who talks down Filipino cuisine, though it may just be because my stomach and I are both used to it. At any rate, I can eat three full meals for ₱100, so I can’t complain.

    Oh, and Filipino street food, while cheap, is downright unhealthy. I guess tahô is nice in the morning, though.

    Note: the Filipinos who do end up migrating overseas (to stay in the new host country, not to just earn money) tend to be more “liberal” and will tend to try to assimilate into goodwhites in the absence of a powerful expat community. Just an observation.

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  14. Why give such obvious nonsense as this article any attention at all. It’s click bait–one hop up in quality and honesty from emails from Nigerian widows.

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    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    I think you mean to have made this comment at the BBC website.
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  15. You know, what people call white privilege is no more than the natural outcome of a free country that still happens to be 70% white. Shockingly, this leads to 70% of the food, music, sports, etc being what whites like. Obviously unacceptable and offensive to POC. So freedom has to go. Whenever four awards are given, there must be one white winner, one black winner, one Hispanic winner and one oriental winner, or else KKK!!!1!1!!eleven!

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  16. “I think microaggressions in social media are reflective of food media as a whole in that appropriation,” Noche tells BBC Trending.

    I’m conflicted. On the one hand I immediately want BBC Trending to cease to exist and force all employees and management to pay a special tax for the rest of their lives for consuming resources that could have gone elsewhere. On the other, the only reason BBC Trending exists is to automate and take the initiative out of News production at the BBC, thus helping to reduce the number of the pointless parasites that we call web journalists.

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  17. Food media is predominantly generated by white people for white people

    So are most politically correctifying bitch sessions like this. Even if it is a non-white who points them out, white people use them (or appropriate them) to knock over other white people’s heads in order to keep them in line and pious to the political correctness dogma.

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  18. Do the American Indians get royalties on all of the peppers, corn and tomatoes used throughout the world (including in the Philippines)? Or Africans, do they get royalties on the peanut? Does the Spanish Royal Family get a royalty check for the use of Phillip’s name by the Philippines?

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  19. It’s worse up here in the Northeast. We have this locally-made stuff called Marshmallow Fluff.

    I give you the Fluffernutter. It’s especially racist due to its color.

    http://www.newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/revolutionary-roots-fluffernutter-sandwich/

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    • Replies: @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    I saw Fluff in the grocery store (next to the peanut butter and not in the Baking section) in North Carolina and immediately bought some... we used to have to stock up on our visits to New England. I ate so many Fluffernutters in one week, man they are good.
    Also, that they are stocking it here gives you a sense of how many New Englanders are moving here. The largest Red Sox fan group outside of New England is in Raleigh.
    One retired Bostonian at a Sox event was listening to younger folks talking politics and he turned to them and said (paraphrasing), "We all moved here for the lower cost of living. Stop voting for the same crap that made Mass. expensive and unbearable."
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  20. Assimilation is not the answer. Integration is not the answer.

    The answer is coercive expulsion and mass deportation. Civil War II is on the way. Mass immigration will be the cause of Civil War II.

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  21. English is an official language of the Philippines.

    They should thank the USA every time they say “Hello”.

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "English is an official language of the Philippines.

    They should thank the USA every time they say “Hello”.

    Many years ago when I used to talk to Filipino women on Skype I could barely understand Filipino English.

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  22. @NOTA
    Why give such obvious nonsense as this article any attention at all. It's click bait--one hop up in quality and honesty from emails from Nigerian widows.

    I think you mean to have made this comment at the BBC website.

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  23. Food52.com, which used to be a good cooking website, went totally bonkers post election. They started running hand wringing posts about aiming to feature more diverse cuisines and what they could do as an office of white millennial NYC ladies to further The Cause as though Trump was elected due to an insufficient number of Sudanese recipes in food media. I haven’t been back since. There are plenty of other places to get good recipes without a lecture.

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  24. In theory Flip cuisine should be good, right? Main influences would be Spanish and Chinese which are both really good.

    Where did it go wrong?

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  25. And what about the Peanut Butter sandwich reparations?

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  26. Amusingly, Ms Noche’s profile pic on her website has her posed in front of the Cliffs of Moher off the coast of County Clare in Ireland.
    Ancestry has me as 94% Irish, so where do I apply for my royalty check?

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  27. Don’t know anything about Filipino cuisine other than something called a “Balut” which I’ve heard is absolutely god-awful.

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    • Replies: @Bill B.
    Balut.

    I can confirm that. I once bit into one during a rest stop on a long-distance bus journey.

    I can still taste and feel the vile contents of the bloody thing after 35 years.
    , @Jack D
    It falls in the category of the disgusting stuff that Andrew Zimmern eats on his "Bizarre Foods" show on cable TV. It's the unhatched embryo of a duck.
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  28. Anthony Bourdain, a shameless old lefty pot smoker and former restaurant employee — who probably pissed into the food of customers he didn’t like — now gets paid by CNN to go around the world and appropriate every slug, snail and monkey excrement food item he can find.

    He particularly likes to get drunk and hang out with tatooed losers in slums.

    One time President Obama actually met up with Mr. “I’m so hip” Bourdain in the middle of some dirty Southeast Asian neighborhood to yuck it up about how wonderful it is to be surrounded by poor people and smell their pee in the streets.

    Bourdain now inserts anti-Trump hate propaganda into his shows. The last one I saw implied that President Trump is just like Mussolini.

    Anyone to wants to complain about cultural food appropriation should contact Mr. Bourdain first.

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    Bourdain loves slumming with his tatooed losers who keep further prolapsing his rectum.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Buzz, Everything about Bourdain gives me agita.
    , @Abe
    Isn't Bourdain a former-heroin addict? And wasn't he a sorta big deal NYC chef? But yeah- I can believe there's one other black man in America who finds Anthony Bourdain cool, and I can believe there's another black man in America who thinks Zack Galafianakis is hilarious, but if you tell me that black man is into both of these "celebs" it can only mean- OBAMA!
    , @Brutusale
    Pot smoker?! Self-admitted heroin addict, which is his saving grace. He freely admits to being an addict and a lefty, two things that go together pretty well.
    , @Anonymous
    Andrew Zimmern's show Bizarre Food on the Travel Channel actually travels around the world eating things like slugs, snails, and monkey excrement. Bourdain tends to stick to less exotic, exotic food.

    Bourdain wasn't just a restaurant employee, but a successful restaurateur and author. I've eaten at his restaurant in Manhattan, which is ok but overpriced and fairly mediocre casual French cuisine.

    Bourdain also had a long running show on the Travel Channel before his new CNN show. His old show was much better and not political at all.
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  29. @Anonymous
    "Filipino cuisine" is the world's single most disgusting cuisine. It's as though the recipes were designed by children, with huge amounts of sugar as the main ingredient. Filipino food is the world's only traditional cuisine that could be replaced by three squares a day at McDonald's and significantly improve the health of the people. Many Filipinos are moving to other diets to try to reduce the plague of diabetes and heart disease in their families. So a pb&j is a big improvement for Filipinos.

    “Filipino cuisine” is the world’s single most disgusting cuisine. It’s as though the recipes were designed by children, with huge amounts of sugar as the main ingredient.”

    Not really.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_cuisine

    True, Filipinos suffer from higher rates of diabetes, but that is other than surprising for a carbohydrate-loading nation, whose staple meals include rice, bread, sweet potato, corn and other food with high levels of sugar content.

    Now, to the topic at hand. This blog post is much ado about nothing. Some two-bit blogger talks about microaggressions and food, and it becomes a “story” for the Alt Right, one that perpetuates their narrative.

    In reality, she is a complete fool. Giving her digital ink only feeds into the foolishness known as the Coalition of the Fringes.

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    The problem is that in CoF circles this stuff is taken seriously and is not considered foolish at all. And the CoF itself is not considered foolish by the institutions at the peak of our society - the universities, the "respectable" press such as the BBC, etc. It just ran the White House (if not the country) for the last 8 years, came THAT close to running it again and is still planning the glorious future where they will reign forever after a few more old white guys die. So people like Megha and Celeste are no joke - it would not have surprised me if Hillary had mentioned their groundbreaking work at a debate while she criticized Trump for cultural appropriation at his hotels and resorts, etc. I WISH that folks like this were jokes but you'll notice that the BBC piece did not portray Celeste as a clown - they took her claims completely seriously and at face value.
    , @International Jew
    She may be an insignificant twit by herself, but "cultural appropriation" is a pretty big deal now, and put into a larger context it's of a piece with the "orientalism" idea of Edward Said, who was a high-brow cultural figure of the first order.
    , @Daniel Chieh


    In reality, she is a complete fool. Giving her digital ink only feeds into the foolishness known as the Coalition of the Fringes.
     
    Aka the Right becomes more invigorated by seeing the stupidity of the Left, which of course, distresses you because you are one of the Left.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "In reality, she is a complete fool. Giving her digital ink only feeds into the foolishness known as the Coalition of the Fringes."

    Much the same could be said of you. And yet, here you are. You should thank Steve and Ron for providing a platform that permits you to give vent to the ceaseless torrent of drivel that spews forth from your piehole.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Not really.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_cuisine
     

    Gosh, you can look things up on Wikipedia. What a bright fellow you are. Have you ever eaten any?
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Corvinus, I can't agree with you because all of this cultural appropriation mush becomes food that is fed to the young in school and that is a fact.
    , @Bill B.
    Actually Filipino food really is typically lousy, if not downright bad. It is a country where hardly anybody appears to know how to cook. By contrast, say, with Thailand where it is rare to get a genuinely bad meal.

    I have talked to food manufacturers who tell me that they have to adjust their sauces to make everything extra sweet for the Philippines.

    In good hands, some Filipino dishes are not bad: Sinigang (tamarind) soup can be good. Also the Spanish derived dishes like an adobo. Yet it is interesting how monotonous the cuisine is without the heavy use of chillies to add contrast and punch.

    But this Filipina mediocrity is also on very shaky ground: the modern culture of the Philippines is at heart a mangled, failed attempted to appropriate American style and swagger in totto.
    , @Mikey Darmody
    Me: Hey, Corvinus, did you hear about those crazy people who eat poop sandwiches? Pretty weird, huh? I think they're called coprophages or something.
    Corvinus: DE GUSTIBUS NON DISPUTAM ALTRIGHTER!!!!!!!11!!!!! NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW VOX DAY'S SPELLING ERROR MEANS YOU CAN'T HAVE A COUNTRY ANYMORE!!
    Me: Woah, calm down, bud! I just think people should eat good food, Crow-man, no need to harsh anybody's mellow.
    Corvinus: ACTUALLY MY WIKIPEDIA RESEARCH PROVES THAT MELLOWS CANNOT BE HARSHED, UNLIKE WHAT THAT ROOSH V WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE!!!!
    Me: Who?
    Corvinus: I AM THE ONE TRUE MODERATE!!!!!!!!
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  30. Your wife is Filipina?

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  31. @Mikey Darmody
    Haha "Filipino cuisine " is a contradiction in terms! Deep-fried spring rolls drowned in gallons of vinegar? That's not cuisine, that's barely even food!

    Yes, it’s appalling. The only decent food I got in the Philippines was very anglo…

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  32. @Anonymous
    "Filipino cuisine" is the world's single most disgusting cuisine. It's as though the recipes were designed by children, with huge amounts of sugar as the main ingredient. Filipino food is the world's only traditional cuisine that could be replaced by three squares a day at McDonald's and significantly improve the health of the people. Many Filipinos are moving to other diets to try to reduce the plague of diabetes and heart disease in their families. So a pb&j is a big improvement for Filipinos.

    Think of it as the Asian version of Pennsylvania Dutch cuisine (also based on the idea of contrasting sweet and sour). I don’t see too many 300 lb. Filipinos like the folks I see in Lancaster, so it can’t be that bad.

    If we are doing cultural appropriation, isn’t Filipino cuisine largely “appropriated” from Spanish cuisine (as well as Malaysian, Chinese, etc.)? They can keep Filipino cuisine if they give back all the Spanish influences. They even have to give back the names of the dishes, let alone the recipes. Lechón, longganisa , tapa , torta , adobo , kaldereta, mechado – give them all back. I think that leaves them with salted fish and rice which is I think what they were eating before the Spanish showed up.

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    Every time I eat Filipino food I get the impression that the seven, or fourteen or however many families that run the Philippines ate all the real meat & Filipino cuisine was developed to figure out how to eat the leftovers.
    , @Abe
    My brother-in-law brought over his Philippino fiancé last year, and my wife made some lumpia in her honor. If that is representative of Philippine cooking, then yeah, English food now has a competitor for most dodgy on the planet. Too bad, though, because I find Philippinos pretty easy-going and assimilable overall (the fiancé was even going to vote Trump).
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  33. @Corvinus
    “Filipino cuisine” is the world’s single most disgusting cuisine. It’s as though the recipes were designed by children, with huge amounts of sugar as the main ingredient."

    Not really.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_cuisine

    True, Filipinos suffer from higher rates of diabetes, but that is other than surprising for a carbohydrate-loading nation, whose staple meals include rice, bread, sweet potato, corn and other food with high levels of sugar content.

    Now, to the topic at hand. This blog post is much ado about nothing. Some two-bit blogger talks about microaggressions and food, and it becomes a "story" for the Alt Right, one that perpetuates their narrative.

    In reality, she is a complete fool. Giving her digital ink only feeds into the foolishness known as the Coalition of the Fringes.

    The problem is that in CoF circles this stuff is taken seriously and is not considered foolish at all. And the CoF itself is not considered foolish by the institutions at the peak of our society – the universities, the “respectable” press such as the BBC, etc. It just ran the White House (if not the country) for the last 8 years, came THAT close to running it again and is still planning the glorious future where they will reign forever after a few more old white guys die. So people like Megha and Celeste are no joke – it would not have surprised me if Hillary had mentioned their groundbreaking work at a debate while she criticized Trump for cultural appropriation at his hotels and resorts, etc. I WISH that folks like this were jokes but you’ll notice that the BBC piece did not portray Celeste as a clown – they took her claims completely seriously and at face value.

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    "The problem is that in CoF circles this stuff is taken seriously and is not considered foolish at all."

    Taken seriously by the acolytes.

    "And the CoF itself is not considered foolish by the institutions at the peak of our society – the universities, the “respectable” press such as the BBC, etc."

    The loudmouths at those institutions.

    "So people like Megha and Celeste are no joke – it would not have surprised me if Hillary had mentioned their groundbreaking work at a debate while she criticized Trump for cultural appropriation at his hotels and resorts, etc. I WISH that folks like this were jokes but you’ll notice that the BBC piece did not portray Celeste as a clown – they took her claims completely seriously and at face value."

    The author who is promoting her ideas took her seriously.
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  34. This is so enormously dumb.

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  35. @Corvinus
    “Filipino cuisine” is the world’s single most disgusting cuisine. It’s as though the recipes were designed by children, with huge amounts of sugar as the main ingredient."

    Not really.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_cuisine

    True, Filipinos suffer from higher rates of diabetes, but that is other than surprising for a carbohydrate-loading nation, whose staple meals include rice, bread, sweet potato, corn and other food with high levels of sugar content.

    Now, to the topic at hand. This blog post is much ado about nothing. Some two-bit blogger talks about microaggressions and food, and it becomes a "story" for the Alt Right, one that perpetuates their narrative.

    In reality, she is a complete fool. Giving her digital ink only feeds into the foolishness known as the Coalition of the Fringes.

    She may be an insignificant twit by herself, but “cultural appropriation” is a pretty big deal now, and put into a larger context it’s of a piece with the “orientalism” idea of Edward Said, who was a high-brow cultural figure of the first order.

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  36. Steve, cultural appropriation, like colonization, is only bad in one direction.

    BTW you can be a fine electrician without knowing anything whatsoever about Maxwell’s equations.

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    IJ, so true about electricity, but these are better rules...One wire, ground it. Two wires, twist them together. Three wires, hmmm, call an electrician.
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  37. @Anonymous
    "Filipino cuisine" is the world's single most disgusting cuisine. It's as though the recipes were designed by children, with huge amounts of sugar as the main ingredient. Filipino food is the world's only traditional cuisine that could be replaced by three squares a day at McDonald's and significantly improve the health of the people. Many Filipinos are moving to other diets to try to reduce the plague of diabetes and heart disease in their families. So a pb&j is a big improvement for Filipinos.

    Filipino food is the world’s only traditional cuisine that could be replaced by three squares a day at McDonald’s and significantly improve the health of the people.

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  38. @Corvinus
    “Filipino cuisine” is the world’s single most disgusting cuisine. It’s as though the recipes were designed by children, with huge amounts of sugar as the main ingredient."

    Not really.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_cuisine

    True, Filipinos suffer from higher rates of diabetes, but that is other than surprising for a carbohydrate-loading nation, whose staple meals include rice, bread, sweet potato, corn and other food with high levels of sugar content.

    Now, to the topic at hand. This blog post is much ado about nothing. Some two-bit blogger talks about microaggressions and food, and it becomes a "story" for the Alt Right, one that perpetuates their narrative.

    In reality, she is a complete fool. Giving her digital ink only feeds into the foolishness known as the Coalition of the Fringes.

    In reality, she is a complete fool. Giving her digital ink only feeds into the foolishness known as the Coalition of the Fringes.

    Aka the Right becomes more invigorated by seeing the stupidity of the Left, which of course, distresses you because you are one of the Left.

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  39. @Jack D
    Think of it as the Asian version of Pennsylvania Dutch cuisine (also based on the idea of contrasting sweet and sour). I don't see too many 300 lb. Filipinos like the folks I see in Lancaster, so it can't be that bad.

    If we are doing cultural appropriation, isn't Filipino cuisine largely "appropriated" from Spanish cuisine (as well as Malaysian, Chinese, etc.)? They can keep Filipino cuisine if they give back all the Spanish influences. They even have to give back the names of the dishes, let alone the recipes. Lechón, longganisa , tapa , torta , adobo , kaldereta, mechado - give them all back. I think that leaves them with salted fish and rice which is I think what they were eating before the Spanish showed up.

    Every time I eat Filipino food I get the impression that the seven, or fourteen or however many families that run the Philippines ate all the real meat & Filipino cuisine was developed to figure out how to eat the leftovers.

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  40. @Corvinus
    “Filipino cuisine” is the world’s single most disgusting cuisine. It’s as though the recipes were designed by children, with huge amounts of sugar as the main ingredient."

    Not really.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_cuisine

    True, Filipinos suffer from higher rates of diabetes, but that is other than surprising for a carbohydrate-loading nation, whose staple meals include rice, bread, sweet potato, corn and other food with high levels of sugar content.

    Now, to the topic at hand. This blog post is much ado about nothing. Some two-bit blogger talks about microaggressions and food, and it becomes a "story" for the Alt Right, one that perpetuates their narrative.

    In reality, she is a complete fool. Giving her digital ink only feeds into the foolishness known as the Coalition of the Fringes.

    “In reality, she is a complete fool. Giving her digital ink only feeds into the foolishness known as the Coalition of the Fringes.”

    Much the same could be said of you. And yet, here you are. You should thank Steve and Ron for providing a platform that permits you to give vent to the ceaseless torrent of drivel that spews forth from your piehole.

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  41. @Corvinus
    “Filipino cuisine” is the world’s single most disgusting cuisine. It’s as though the recipes were designed by children, with huge amounts of sugar as the main ingredient."

    Not really.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_cuisine

    True, Filipinos suffer from higher rates of diabetes, but that is other than surprising for a carbohydrate-loading nation, whose staple meals include rice, bread, sweet potato, corn and other food with high levels of sugar content.

    Now, to the topic at hand. This blog post is much ado about nothing. Some two-bit blogger talks about microaggressions and food, and it becomes a "story" for the Alt Right, one that perpetuates their narrative.

    In reality, she is a complete fool. Giving her digital ink only feeds into the foolishness known as the Coalition of the Fringes.

    Not really.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_cuisine

    Gosh, you can look things up on Wikipedia. What a bright fellow you are. Have you ever eaten any?

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    "Gosh, you can look things up on Wikipedia. What a bright fellow you are. Have you ever eaten any?"

    To get a taste, try Lickipedia.
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  42. @Jack D
    The problem is that in CoF circles this stuff is taken seriously and is not considered foolish at all. And the CoF itself is not considered foolish by the institutions at the peak of our society - the universities, the "respectable" press such as the BBC, etc. It just ran the White House (if not the country) for the last 8 years, came THAT close to running it again and is still planning the glorious future where they will reign forever after a few more old white guys die. So people like Megha and Celeste are no joke - it would not have surprised me if Hillary had mentioned their groundbreaking work at a debate while she criticized Trump for cultural appropriation at his hotels and resorts, etc. I WISH that folks like this were jokes but you'll notice that the BBC piece did not portray Celeste as a clown - they took her claims completely seriously and at face value.

    “The problem is that in CoF circles this stuff is taken seriously and is not considered foolish at all.”

    Taken seriously by the acolytes.

    “And the CoF itself is not considered foolish by the institutions at the peak of our society – the universities, the “respectable” press such as the BBC, etc.”

    The loudmouths at those institutions.

    “So people like Megha and Celeste are no joke – it would not have surprised me if Hillary had mentioned their groundbreaking work at a debate while she criticized Trump for cultural appropriation at his hotels and resorts, etc. I WISH that folks like this were jokes but you’ll notice that the BBC piece did not portray Celeste as a clown – they took her claims completely seriously and at face value.”

    The author who is promoting her ideas took her seriously.

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  43. @Buzz Mohawk
    Anthony Bourdain, a shameless old lefty pot smoker and former restaurant employee -- who probably pissed into the food of customers he didn't like -- now gets paid by CNN to go around the world and appropriate every slug, snail and monkey excrement food item he can find.

    He particularly likes to get drunk and hang out with tatooed losers in slums.

    One time President Obama actually met up with Mr. "I'm so hip" Bourdain in the middle of some dirty Southeast Asian neighborhood to yuck it up about how wonderful it is to be surrounded by poor people and smell their pee in the streets.

    Bourdain now inserts anti-Trump hate propaganda into his shows. The last one I saw implied that President Trump is just like Mussolini.

    Anyone to wants to complain about cultural food appropriation should contact Mr. Bourdain first.

    Bourdain loves slumming with his tatooed losers who keep further prolapsing his rectum.

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  44. If Hillary won the election, this kind of micro-aggression silliness would have been taken seriously by her administration. Perhaps, this had more to do with Hillary’s loss than Russian secret agents.

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  45. @Buzz Mohawk
    Anthony Bourdain, a shameless old lefty pot smoker and former restaurant employee -- who probably pissed into the food of customers he didn't like -- now gets paid by CNN to go around the world and appropriate every slug, snail and monkey excrement food item he can find.

    He particularly likes to get drunk and hang out with tatooed losers in slums.

    One time President Obama actually met up with Mr. "I'm so hip" Bourdain in the middle of some dirty Southeast Asian neighborhood to yuck it up about how wonderful it is to be surrounded by poor people and smell their pee in the streets.

    Bourdain now inserts anti-Trump hate propaganda into his shows. The last one I saw implied that President Trump is just like Mussolini.

    Anyone to wants to complain about cultural food appropriation should contact Mr. Bourdain first.

    Buzz, Everything about Bourdain gives me agita.

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    He has a daughter. I wish the child well, but everything I know about him suggests she is headed for the pole, if not worse.
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  46. @Corvinus
    “Filipino cuisine” is the world’s single most disgusting cuisine. It’s as though the recipes were designed by children, with huge amounts of sugar as the main ingredient."

    Not really.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_cuisine

    True, Filipinos suffer from higher rates of diabetes, but that is other than surprising for a carbohydrate-loading nation, whose staple meals include rice, bread, sweet potato, corn and other food with high levels of sugar content.

    Now, to the topic at hand. This blog post is much ado about nothing. Some two-bit blogger talks about microaggressions and food, and it becomes a "story" for the Alt Right, one that perpetuates their narrative.

    In reality, she is a complete fool. Giving her digital ink only feeds into the foolishness known as the Coalition of the Fringes.

    Corvinus, I can’t agree with you because all of this cultural appropriation mush becomes food that is fed to the young in school and that is a fact.

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    "Corvinus, I can’t agree with you because all of this cultural appropriation mush becomes food that is fed to the young in school and that is a fact."

    As opposed to teaching those same young people the truth about race realism and human biodiversity, that there is a battle going on between "good whites" and "bad whites", that one's race is one's uniform in an impending racial civil war?

    People overestimate the impact of Cultural Marxism in our educational institutions, as if this phenomenon created by Jews has this power and influence over the minds of today's young people. Perhaps kids and teens realize that the "adults in the room" truly have no clue about how they view the world, one that is decidedly different than their parents generation.

    I'm certain that 50's teens who grew up lionizing rock and roll musicians, particularly blacks, tended to shake their heads at their moms and dads, laughing at the notion that by idolizing "subhuman creatures" they would somehow lose their way in life.

    Those who talk about "going back to the days when white men ruled and white women knew their place" are way behind the times. It's not going back to those halcyon days, if even that "perfect life" had existed in the manner they recall. It's called human progress.
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  47. @International Jew
    Steve, cultural appropriation, like colonization, is only bad in one direction.

    BTW you can be a fine electrician without knowing anything whatsoever about Maxwell's equations.

    IJ, so true about electricity, but these are better rules…One wire, ground it. Two wires, twist them together. Three wires, hmmm, call an electrician.

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  48. @Brutusale
    It's worse up here in the Northeast. We have this locally-made stuff called Marshmallow Fluff.

    I give you the Fluffernutter. It's especially racist due to its color.

    http://www.newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/revolutionary-roots-fluffernutter-sandwich/

    I saw Fluff in the grocery store (next to the peanut butter and not in the Baking section) in North Carolina and immediately bought some… we used to have to stock up on our visits to New England. I ate so many Fluffernutters in one week, man they are good.
    Also, that they are stocking it here gives you a sense of how many New Englanders are moving here. The largest Red Sox fan group outside of New England is in Raleigh.
    One retired Bostonian at a Sox event was listening to younger folks talking politics and he turned to them and said (paraphrasing), “We all moved here for the lower cost of living. Stop voting for the same crap that made Mass. expensive and unbearable.”

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  49. Can’t believe I’m the first person to mention the:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Sandwich

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  50. Man, this stuff is retarded. Next thing you know taking a dump in the wrong way will be cultural appropriation.

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  51. @Buffalo Joe
    Corvinus, I can't agree with you because all of this cultural appropriation mush becomes food that is fed to the young in school and that is a fact.

    “Corvinus, I can’t agree with you because all of this cultural appropriation mush becomes food that is fed to the young in school and that is a fact.”

    As opposed to teaching those same young people the truth about race realism and human biodiversity, that there is a battle going on between “good whites” and “bad whites”, that one’s race is one’s uniform in an impending racial civil war?

    People overestimate the impact of Cultural Marxism in our educational institutions, as if this phenomenon created by Jews has this power and influence over the minds of today’s young people. Perhaps kids and teens realize that the “adults in the room” truly have no clue about how they view the world, one that is decidedly different than their parents generation.

    I’m certain that 50′s teens who grew up lionizing rock and roll musicians, particularly blacks, tended to shake their heads at their moms and dads, laughing at the notion that by idolizing “subhuman creatures” they would somehow lose their way in life.

    Those who talk about “going back to the days when white men ruled and white women knew their place” are way behind the times. It’s not going back to those halcyon days, if even that “perfect life” had existed in the manner they recall. It’s called human progress.

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    Nonsense. For better or worse, organized education has been one of the best methods of indoctrination since its beginning. It doesn't even seem to be worthwhile to expand on this, but whether religious or secular, public education has always served a role in imparting ideas that can be divorced from the truth.

    I've further worked with college level material recently and frankly, they resemble much of the same brainwashing techniques used in prisoner camps. "Write an essay exploring the oppression of the blind in an optical normative society, using examples of how the disability model serves to marginalize minority experiences," is ultimately not all that different from how captured Americans had to write essays about "Write about problems in America and how capitalism may contribute to it."

    The idea that humans are somehow little bubbles of awareness that can't be brainwashed or misled is a cognitive illusion, much like the myth of equality and the myth of progress. Its poppycock. Its a pretty and happy lie, a noble lie that might sound nice but it does not correspond to reality, or else, marketing wouldn't bother to exist.

    In fact, the entire reference to the 1950s completely demonstrates your ignorance of history. A large part of the attraction to "black music" was in fact, because it was implied to be more sexual and animalistic, and implied a more liberal view of sexuality; in no small part this was because of the "problematic" association of blacks with sexual assertiveness.

    By the 1960s, this liberal view of sexuality was indeed consequence. Conservatives have NOT been wrong about the issues with slippery slope.

    , @Abe

    People overestimate the impact of Cultural Marxism in our educational institutions,
     
    And I can remember every step in the march of political correctness and diversity. First I was assured that all the new vibrants would assimilate like the Ellis Island immigrants of old. Then I was told by these same re-assurers I was bad for expecting assimilation, that multiculturalism was good, but promised it would be multiculturalism fully within the civic ideals and founding principles of our "proposition nation". And now these same promisers have come back yet again, saying, 25-50% of the Bill of Rights is going to have to be scrapped ("we don't know the full extent yet- we'll get back to you with the details later"), but here's your complimentary iPhone knock-off pre-loaded with the latest Kardashian video game app, and you also get a 3-month trial subscription to Amazon Prime, so knock yourself out!
    , @peterike

    People overestimate the impact of Cultural Marxism in our educational institutions,
     
    Actually, they grossly UNDER estimate the impact. Here is a pictorial view of just what this indoctrination does.

    http://www.funnyjunk.com/channel/anti-sjw/Before+and+after+feminism/twgoLgj/
    , @Buffalo Joe
    corvinus, I actually like your writing style but you project. I never proposed "going back to the days when white men ruled and women knew their place." My four daughters are successful because I pushed them to be more than that.
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  52. @Anonym
    "That money is rightfully mine." - lolled. Nice work, Steve.

    OK, I’ll take a cut of the T-shirt money

    That’s even funnier. Love the subtlety of the small gray font.

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  53. Once again Trump is a week or two ahead of reality.

    There have been a string of bomb threats against Jewish community centers. Predictably, the press said this was all the result of Trump supporters. Trump opined that the threats may have been false flag operations committed by leftists.

    The FBI arrested a guy:

    http://www.kmov.com/story/34657678/local-man-arrested-for-alleged-threats-against-jewish-community-centers

    A St. Louis man was arrested Friday morning for allegedly making multiple threats to Jewish Community Centers in the U.S.

    Authorities identified the suspect as 31 year-old Juan Thompson. He is charged with one count of cyber-stalking, which carries a maximum sentence of five years.

    The major media sites resolutely refrain from using a picture of the suspect, or giving us much information about him. I’ll let you guess why.

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    I always assume such things are false flags or hoaxes until proven otherwise.

    Steve have given us many examples.

    "Innocent until proven guilty," is the logic that works for these times, as for all others. Any "hate crime" is a hoax until proven otherwise. Show me the perpetrators and prove what they did and why, or I will not listen to you.


    This latest wave of "anti-Semitic" stunts is especially suspicious to me. It would be best to completely ignore it. There is no real anti-Semitism of any consequence in the US. In fact, reality is the exact opposite, with everyone bending over backward to please Jews and Israelis, and born-agains hoping the new Zion heralds God's plan for everyone.

    Sick fantasy. All of it, especially the fake hate.

    And I am damn sure this comment will be construed to be anti-Semitic, when in fact it is not.

    , @SPMoore8
    You mean the black guy from St Louis who was dating a white woman and decided, after a fight with his GF to terrorize Jewish community centers all over the country?

    Yes, that guy. He's also anti-Trump and a Marxist, apparently. Check his twitter feed at @JuanMThompson

    BTW, criticizing the posting of this silly article on the premise that "cultural appropriation" is silly and has no impact, has not been paying attention to reality. All sorts of public performances have been harshly criticized for cultural appropriation and some have even been shut down or edited so as not to provide offense. And, being in touch with my children's cohort via social media, I know for a fact that there's a strong self questioning bit going on.

    As a matter of fact, the driver for that outrageous attack on the professor at Yale last October (on the professor and his wife, who both ended up fleeing) was the issue of cultural appropriation, i.e., white kids wearing sombreros on Halloween, etc.

    So one can say that it has no traction, but in fact, it does.
    , @International Jew
    Nice, a black community organizer. His stepfather ranting (at 1:25 on the video) about the police's indelicate tactics is a nice touch too.
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  54. Traveling with a colleague years ago en route to Manila. My first trip to the Philippines. Departing Bangkok, where we had spent a few days. I am a fan of Thai food, and asked my colleague about the food in the Philippines, since he had been there previously. He says “Prepare to go from the sublime to the ridiculous.” I thought I was a smart alec(k). The guy was a good traveling companion.

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  55. Abe says: • Website

    Occurred to me a couple years ago, once it became apparent the whole micro-aggression thing wasn’t a big joke, but how long before the major supermarket chains, which in the US always have aisles marked “Asian” and “Latin”, get struggle-sessioned for exoticizing and otherizing cuisines that “have always been part of America”? (“And how come there no aisle that say ‘White People Food’ in the grocery store?”)

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    "(“And how come there no aisle that say ‘White People Food’ in the grocery store?”)

    Will there be frozen lasagna and frozen chicken parmigiana in the White people food aisle in the future?
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  56. @Corvinus
    “Filipino cuisine” is the world’s single most disgusting cuisine. It’s as though the recipes were designed by children, with huge amounts of sugar as the main ingredient."

    Not really.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_cuisine

    True, Filipinos suffer from higher rates of diabetes, but that is other than surprising for a carbohydrate-loading nation, whose staple meals include rice, bread, sweet potato, corn and other food with high levels of sugar content.

    Now, to the topic at hand. This blog post is much ado about nothing. Some two-bit blogger talks about microaggressions and food, and it becomes a "story" for the Alt Right, one that perpetuates their narrative.

    In reality, she is a complete fool. Giving her digital ink only feeds into the foolishness known as the Coalition of the Fringes.

    Actually Filipino food really is typically lousy, if not downright bad. It is a country where hardly anybody appears to know how to cook. By contrast, say, with Thailand where it is rare to get a genuinely bad meal.

    I have talked to food manufacturers who tell me that they have to adjust their sauces to make everything extra sweet for the Philippines.

    In good hands, some Filipino dishes are not bad: Sinigang (tamarind) soup can be good. Also the Spanish derived dishes like an adobo. Yet it is interesting how monotonous the cuisine is without the heavy use of chillies to add contrast and punch.

    But this Filipina mediocrity is also on very shaky ground: the modern culture of the Philippines is at heart a mangled, failed attempted to appropriate American style and swagger in totto.

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  57. Abe says: • Website
    @Jack D
    Think of it as the Asian version of Pennsylvania Dutch cuisine (also based on the idea of contrasting sweet and sour). I don't see too many 300 lb. Filipinos like the folks I see in Lancaster, so it can't be that bad.

    If we are doing cultural appropriation, isn't Filipino cuisine largely "appropriated" from Spanish cuisine (as well as Malaysian, Chinese, etc.)? They can keep Filipino cuisine if they give back all the Spanish influences. They even have to give back the names of the dishes, let alone the recipes. Lechón, longganisa , tapa , torta , adobo , kaldereta, mechado - give them all back. I think that leaves them with salted fish and rice which is I think what they were eating before the Spanish showed up.

    My brother-in-law brought over his Philippino fiancé last year, and my wife made some lumpia in her honor. If that is representative of Philippine cooking, then yeah, English food now has a competitor for most dodgy on the planet. Too bad, though, because I find Philippinos pretty easy-going and assimilable overall (the fiancé was even going to vote Trump).

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  58. Abe says: • Website
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Anthony Bourdain, a shameless old lefty pot smoker and former restaurant employee -- who probably pissed into the food of customers he didn't like -- now gets paid by CNN to go around the world and appropriate every slug, snail and monkey excrement food item he can find.

    He particularly likes to get drunk and hang out with tatooed losers in slums.

    One time President Obama actually met up with Mr. "I'm so hip" Bourdain in the middle of some dirty Southeast Asian neighborhood to yuck it up about how wonderful it is to be surrounded by poor people and smell their pee in the streets.

    Bourdain now inserts anti-Trump hate propaganda into his shows. The last one I saw implied that President Trump is just like Mussolini.

    Anyone to wants to complain about cultural food appropriation should contact Mr. Bourdain first.

    Isn’t Bourdain a former-heroin addict? And wasn’t he a sorta big deal NYC chef? But yeah- I can believe there’s one other black man in America who finds Anthony Bourdain cool, and I can believe there’s another black man in America who thinks Zack Galafianakis is hilarious, but if you tell me that black man is into both of these “celebs” it can only mean- OBAMA!

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  59. @Corvinus
    "Corvinus, I can’t agree with you because all of this cultural appropriation mush becomes food that is fed to the young in school and that is a fact."

    As opposed to teaching those same young people the truth about race realism and human biodiversity, that there is a battle going on between "good whites" and "bad whites", that one's race is one's uniform in an impending racial civil war?

    People overestimate the impact of Cultural Marxism in our educational institutions, as if this phenomenon created by Jews has this power and influence over the minds of today's young people. Perhaps kids and teens realize that the "adults in the room" truly have no clue about how they view the world, one that is decidedly different than their parents generation.

    I'm certain that 50's teens who grew up lionizing rock and roll musicians, particularly blacks, tended to shake their heads at their moms and dads, laughing at the notion that by idolizing "subhuman creatures" they would somehow lose their way in life.

    Those who talk about "going back to the days when white men ruled and white women knew their place" are way behind the times. It's not going back to those halcyon days, if even that "perfect life" had existed in the manner they recall. It's called human progress.

    Nonsense. For better or worse, organized education has been one of the best methods of indoctrination since its beginning. It doesn’t even seem to be worthwhile to expand on this, but whether religious or secular, public education has always served a role in imparting ideas that can be divorced from the truth.

    I’ve further worked with college level material recently and frankly, they resemble much of the same brainwashing techniques used in prisoner camps. “Write an essay exploring the oppression of the blind in an optical normative society, using examples of how the disability model serves to marginalize minority experiences,” is ultimately not all that different from how captured Americans had to write essays about “Write about problems in America and how capitalism may contribute to it.”

    The idea that humans are somehow little bubbles of awareness that can’t be brainwashed or misled is a cognitive illusion, much like the myth of equality and the myth of progress. Its poppycock. Its a pretty and happy lie, a noble lie that might sound nice but it does not correspond to reality, or else, marketing wouldn’t bother to exist.

    In fact, the entire reference to the 1950s completely demonstrates your ignorance of history. A large part of the attraction to “black music” was in fact, because it was implied to be more sexual and animalistic, and implied a more liberal view of sexuality; in no small part this was because of the “problematic” association of blacks with sexual assertiveness.

    By the 1960s, this liberal view of sexuality was indeed consequence. Conservatives have NOT been wrong about the issues with slippery slope.

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    "Nonsense. For better or worse, organized education has been one of the best methods of indoctrination since its beginning."

    Not indoctrination, but the spread of certain ideas that people are able to relate to or agree with.

    "It doesn’t even seem to be worthwhile to expand on this, but whether religious or secular, public education has always served a role in imparting ideas that can be divorced from the truth."

    Ideas that are reflective of a person's perceived reality.

    "I’ve further worked with college level material recently and frankly, they resemble much of the same brainwashing techniques used in prisoner camps."

    As opposed to the brainwashing techniques of Jared Taylor or Richard Spencer? If you are going to rail on indoctrination, then you best be prepared to equally take to task those on the right as well as the left. Confirmation bias much?

    "is ultimately not all that different from how captured Americans had to write essays about “Write about problems in America and how capitalism may contribute to it.”

    This question is markedly different, as it has been demonstrated that capitalism has been at the center of several of our political and economic problems. It is up to each author to explain to what extent is this economic philosophy at fault.

    "The idea that humans are somehow little bubbles of awareness that can’t be brainwashed or misled is a cognitive illusion..."

    I never made that implication.

    "much like the myth of equality and the myth of progress."

    Talk about being indoctrinated!

    "In fact, the entire reference to the 1950s completely demonstrates your ignorance of history. A large part of the attraction to “black music” was in fact, because it was implied to be more sexual and animalistic, and implied a more liberal view of sexuality; in no small part this was because of the “problematic” association of blacks with sexual assertiveness."

    First, rock and roll was not "black music"; its roots are from country and western, rhythm and blues, and blue grass. Second, music as a cultural expression that runs counter to the status quo will inevitably bring accusations of being immoral and sinful by authority figures. Third, white rock bands were equal to the task to objectifying women as black artists during this time period. Fourth, this "sexual assertiveness" of blacks was perpetuated by the general population of white southerners during Jim Crow to keep their womenfolk away from race mixing.

    "By the 1960s, this liberal view of sexuality was indeed consequence. Conservatives have NOT been wrong about the issues with slippery slope."

    By the early 1900's, American sexual attitudes were changing, albeit they were not widely publicized, due largely in part to industrialization and urbanization. There was promiscuity, homosexuality, and adultery. In "polite" society, these social problems were kept from the public eye. Hence, they received little press coverage. The 1960's ushered in a new era by which sexual topics could be openly discussed.
    , @MadDog
    Love your comments Mr. Chieh. I'm watching the OJ documentary. Quite insightful.

    We now have a black Muslim arrested for threats against synagogues. What is most interesting about that story is that he blamed it on his ex white girlfriend. I'm thinking she was to be OJd had he not been arrested.

    The pollution of cultural Marxism has destroyed a lot of young white women. His ex is lucky.
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  60. @Buzz Mohawk
    Anthony Bourdain, a shameless old lefty pot smoker and former restaurant employee -- who probably pissed into the food of customers he didn't like -- now gets paid by CNN to go around the world and appropriate every slug, snail and monkey excrement food item he can find.

    He particularly likes to get drunk and hang out with tatooed losers in slums.

    One time President Obama actually met up with Mr. "I'm so hip" Bourdain in the middle of some dirty Southeast Asian neighborhood to yuck it up about how wonderful it is to be surrounded by poor people and smell their pee in the streets.

    Bourdain now inserts anti-Trump hate propaganda into his shows. The last one I saw implied that President Trump is just like Mussolini.

    Anyone to wants to complain about cultural food appropriation should contact Mr. Bourdain first.

    Pot smoker?! Self-admitted heroin addict, which is his saving grace. He freely admits to being an addict and a lefty, two things that go together pretty well.

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  61. At least Mussolini was a genuine foodie.

    Bourdain is just another beneficiary of evolutionary group strategy that strategically places all of its membership card holders in the position of ultimate authority in every possible area of human expertise.

    Kitchen Confidential, my ass!

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  62. @Boomstick
    Once again Trump is a week or two ahead of reality.

    There have been a string of bomb threats against Jewish community centers. Predictably, the press said this was all the result of Trump supporters. Trump opined that the threats may have been false flag operations committed by leftists.

    The FBI arrested a guy:

    http://www.kmov.com/story/34657678/local-man-arrested-for-alleged-threats-against-jewish-community-centers


    A St. Louis man was arrested Friday morning for allegedly making multiple threats to Jewish Community Centers in the U.S.

    Authorities identified the suspect as 31 year-old Juan Thompson. He is charged with one count of cyber-stalking, which carries a maximum sentence of five years.
     

    The major media sites resolutely refrain from using a picture of the suspect, or giving us much information about him. I'll let you guess why.

    I always assume such things are false flags or hoaxes until proven otherwise.

    Steve have given us many examples.

    “Innocent until proven guilty,” is the logic that works for these times, as for all others. Any “hate crime” is a hoax until proven otherwise. Show me the perpetrators and prove what they did and why, or I will not listen to you.

    This latest wave of “anti-Semitic” stunts is especially suspicious to me. It would be best to completely ignore it. There is no real anti-Semitism of any consequence in the US. In fact, reality is the exact opposite, with everyone bending over backward to please Jews and Israelis, and born-agains hoping the new Zion heralds God’s plan for everyone.

    Sick fantasy. All of it, especially the fake hate.

    And I am damn sure this comment will be construed to be anti-Semitic, when in fact it is not.

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    There is no real anti-Semitism of any consequence in the US.
     
    You're right. unz.com is about the only place I've seen it, in America.
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  63. Abe says: • Website
    @Corvinus
    "Corvinus, I can’t agree with you because all of this cultural appropriation mush becomes food that is fed to the young in school and that is a fact."

    As opposed to teaching those same young people the truth about race realism and human biodiversity, that there is a battle going on between "good whites" and "bad whites", that one's race is one's uniform in an impending racial civil war?

    People overestimate the impact of Cultural Marxism in our educational institutions, as if this phenomenon created by Jews has this power and influence over the minds of today's young people. Perhaps kids and teens realize that the "adults in the room" truly have no clue about how they view the world, one that is decidedly different than their parents generation.

    I'm certain that 50's teens who grew up lionizing rock and roll musicians, particularly blacks, tended to shake their heads at their moms and dads, laughing at the notion that by idolizing "subhuman creatures" they would somehow lose their way in life.

    Those who talk about "going back to the days when white men ruled and white women knew their place" are way behind the times. It's not going back to those halcyon days, if even that "perfect life" had existed in the manner they recall. It's called human progress.

    People overestimate the impact of Cultural Marxism in our educational institutions,

    And I can remember every step in the march of political correctness and diversity. First I was assured that all the new vibrants would assimilate like the Ellis Island immigrants of old. Then I was told by these same re-assurers I was bad for expecting assimilation, that multiculturalism was good, but promised it would be multiculturalism fully within the civic ideals and founding principles of our “proposition nation”. And now these same promisers have come back yet again, saying, 25-50% of the Bill of Rights is going to have to be scrapped (“we don’t know the full extent yet- we’ll get back to you with the details later”), but here’s your complimentary iPhone knock-off pre-loaded with the latest Kardashian video game app, and you also get a 3-month trial subscription to Amazon Prime, so knock yourself out!

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  64. @Boomstick
    Once again Trump is a week or two ahead of reality.

    There have been a string of bomb threats against Jewish community centers. Predictably, the press said this was all the result of Trump supporters. Trump opined that the threats may have been false flag operations committed by leftists.

    The FBI arrested a guy:

    http://www.kmov.com/story/34657678/local-man-arrested-for-alleged-threats-against-jewish-community-centers


    A St. Louis man was arrested Friday morning for allegedly making multiple threats to Jewish Community Centers in the U.S.

    Authorities identified the suspect as 31 year-old Juan Thompson. He is charged with one count of cyber-stalking, which carries a maximum sentence of five years.
     

    The major media sites resolutely refrain from using a picture of the suspect, or giving us much information about him. I'll let you guess why.

    You mean the black guy from St Louis who was dating a white woman and decided, after a fight with his GF to terrorize Jewish community centers all over the country?

    Yes, that guy. He’s also anti-Trump and a Marxist, apparently. Check his twitter feed at @JuanMThompson

    BTW, criticizing the posting of this silly article on the premise that “cultural appropriation” is silly and has no impact, has not been paying attention to reality. All sorts of public performances have been harshly criticized for cultural appropriation and some have even been shut down or edited so as not to provide offense. And, being in touch with my children’s cohort via social media, I know for a fact that there’s a strong self questioning bit going on.

    As a matter of fact, the driver for that outrageous attack on the professor at Yale last October (on the professor and his wife, who both ended up fleeing) was the issue of cultural appropriation, i.e., white kids wearing sombreros on Halloween, etc.

    So one can say that it has no traction, but in fact, it does.

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  65. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Anthony Bourdain, a shameless old lefty pot smoker and former restaurant employee -- who probably pissed into the food of customers he didn't like -- now gets paid by CNN to go around the world and appropriate every slug, snail and monkey excrement food item he can find.

    He particularly likes to get drunk and hang out with tatooed losers in slums.

    One time President Obama actually met up with Mr. "I'm so hip" Bourdain in the middle of some dirty Southeast Asian neighborhood to yuck it up about how wonderful it is to be surrounded by poor people and smell their pee in the streets.

    Bourdain now inserts anti-Trump hate propaganda into his shows. The last one I saw implied that President Trump is just like Mussolini.

    Anyone to wants to complain about cultural food appropriation should contact Mr. Bourdain first.

    Andrew Zimmern’s show Bizarre Food on the Travel Channel actually travels around the world eating things like slugs, snails, and monkey excrement. Bourdain tends to stick to less exotic, exotic food.

    Bourdain wasn’t just a restaurant employee, but a successful restaurateur and author. I’ve eaten at his restaurant in Manhattan, which is ok but overpriced and fairly mediocre casual French cuisine.

    Bourdain also had a long running show on the Travel Channel before his new CNN show. His old show was much better and not political at all.

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    Bourdain was never a restaurant owner. He was always just an employee.

    The girl and I dined at Les Halles when he was the chef and again after he left for fame and glory on the tube. It was actually a better experience the first time, though it may have had more to do with the publicity he generated causing a tourist trap, turn-and-burn attitude than the absence of his chef skills.
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  66. @Corvinus
    "Corvinus, I can’t agree with you because all of this cultural appropriation mush becomes food that is fed to the young in school and that is a fact."

    As opposed to teaching those same young people the truth about race realism and human biodiversity, that there is a battle going on between "good whites" and "bad whites", that one's race is one's uniform in an impending racial civil war?

    People overestimate the impact of Cultural Marxism in our educational institutions, as if this phenomenon created by Jews has this power and influence over the minds of today's young people. Perhaps kids and teens realize that the "adults in the room" truly have no clue about how they view the world, one that is decidedly different than their parents generation.

    I'm certain that 50's teens who grew up lionizing rock and roll musicians, particularly blacks, tended to shake their heads at their moms and dads, laughing at the notion that by idolizing "subhuman creatures" they would somehow lose their way in life.

    Those who talk about "going back to the days when white men ruled and white women knew their place" are way behind the times. It's not going back to those halcyon days, if even that "perfect life" had existed in the manner they recall. It's called human progress.

    People overestimate the impact of Cultural Marxism in our educational institutions,

    Actually, they grossly UNDER estimate the impact. Here is a pictorial view of just what this indoctrination does.

    http://www.funnyjunk.com/channel/anti-sjw/Before+and+after+feminism/twgoLgj/

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    "Actually, they grossly UNDER estimate the impact. Here is a pictorial view of just what this indoctrination does."

    First, how does their metamorphosis personally impact your life? Why are you taking a "it takes a village" approach here? Nothing more than virtue signaling on your part.

    Second, you are arguing from a false premise--these women changed their looks squarely because of feminist ideologies. As a result, they are other than a "real" woman. You have little idea if that be the case. There could be other factors involved as to why they went from "this to that". Besides, who really cares?

    Furthermore, cultures always have people who engage in behaviors that run counter to social norms. Feel free to shun them or ridicule them.

    Furthermore, is not Roosh a product of Cultural Marxism with his "pump and dump" lifestyle? That was the original source.
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  67. @Daniel Chieh
    Nonsense. For better or worse, organized education has been one of the best methods of indoctrination since its beginning. It doesn't even seem to be worthwhile to expand on this, but whether religious or secular, public education has always served a role in imparting ideas that can be divorced from the truth.

    I've further worked with college level material recently and frankly, they resemble much of the same brainwashing techniques used in prisoner camps. "Write an essay exploring the oppression of the blind in an optical normative society, using examples of how the disability model serves to marginalize minority experiences," is ultimately not all that different from how captured Americans had to write essays about "Write about problems in America and how capitalism may contribute to it."

    The idea that humans are somehow little bubbles of awareness that can't be brainwashed or misled is a cognitive illusion, much like the myth of equality and the myth of progress. Its poppycock. Its a pretty and happy lie, a noble lie that might sound nice but it does not correspond to reality, or else, marketing wouldn't bother to exist.

    In fact, the entire reference to the 1950s completely demonstrates your ignorance of history. A large part of the attraction to "black music" was in fact, because it was implied to be more sexual and animalistic, and implied a more liberal view of sexuality; in no small part this was because of the "problematic" association of blacks with sexual assertiveness.

    By the 1960s, this liberal view of sexuality was indeed consequence. Conservatives have NOT been wrong about the issues with slippery slope.

    “Nonsense. For better or worse, organized education has been one of the best methods of indoctrination since its beginning.”

    Not indoctrination, but the spread of certain ideas that people are able to relate to or agree with.

    “It doesn’t even seem to be worthwhile to expand on this, but whether religious or secular, public education has always served a role in imparting ideas that can be divorced from the truth.”

    Ideas that are reflective of a person’s perceived reality.

    “I’ve further worked with college level material recently and frankly, they resemble much of the same brainwashing techniques used in prisoner camps.”

    As opposed to the brainwashing techniques of Jared Taylor or Richard Spencer? If you are going to rail on indoctrination, then you best be prepared to equally take to task those on the right as well as the left. Confirmation bias much?

    “is ultimately not all that different from how captured Americans had to write essays about “Write about problems in America and how capitalism may contribute to it.”

    This question is markedly different, as it has been demonstrated that capitalism has been at the center of several of our political and economic problems. It is up to each author to explain to what extent is this economic philosophy at fault.

    “The idea that humans are somehow little bubbles of awareness that can’t be brainwashed or misled is a cognitive illusion…”

    I never made that implication.

    “much like the myth of equality and the myth of progress.”

    Talk about being indoctrinated!

    “In fact, the entire reference to the 1950s completely demonstrates your ignorance of history. A large part of the attraction to “black music” was in fact, because it was implied to be more sexual and animalistic, and implied a more liberal view of sexuality; in no small part this was because of the “problematic” association of blacks with sexual assertiveness.”

    First, rock and roll was not “black music”; its roots are from country and western, rhythm and blues, and blue grass. Second, music as a cultural expression that runs counter to the status quo will inevitably bring accusations of being immoral and sinful by authority figures. Third, white rock bands were equal to the task to objectifying women as black artists during this time period. Fourth, this “sexual assertiveness” of blacks was perpetuated by the general population of white southerners during Jim Crow to keep their womenfolk away from race mixing.

    “By the 1960s, this liberal view of sexuality was indeed consequence. Conservatives have NOT been wrong about the issues with slippery slope.”

    By the early 1900′s, American sexual attitudes were changing, albeit they were not widely publicized, due largely in part to industrialization and urbanization. There was promiscuity, homosexuality, and adultery. In “polite” society, these social problems were kept from the public eye. Hence, they received little press coverage. The 1960′s ushered in a new era by which sexual topics could be openly discussed.

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    What brainwashing techniques of Jared Taylor? Nobody is forced to read him. OTOH, college students are forced to read multi-cult tracts, and punished for disagreeing.

    And Black "sexual assertiveness" is no myth. Just check out their rates of venereal disease, if you haven't the opportunity to know many of them in person.
    , @Daniel Chieh

    Not indoctrination, but the spread of certain ideas that people are able to relate to or agree with.
     
    Absolutely. And when I taught in some Muslim schools, the banners where they kept writing of the supremacy of the Muslim world and the fall of rival religions and the surrender of their leaders is only merely harmless ideas for people to relate or agree to.

    I've been around propaganda techniques my entire life. I might have even used some. Your blather is absolute hogwash. I'm not saying that anyone is per se, innocent(though the Left is far more active in using it due to being in power), but the idea that schools aren't being used to indoctrinate to a common standard is frankly, hilarious.


    As opposed to the brainwashing techniques of Jared Taylor or Richard Spencer? If you are going to rail on indoctrination, then you best be prepared to equally take to task those on the right as well as the left. Confirmation bias much?

     

    You're right, Richard Spencer totally can force my children to be judged according to his viewpoint, because the Right is in control of the levers of media and education. Oh wait, they aren't.

    And the fact that you actually believe, or pretend to believe, in the myth of equality is hilarious. No point in talking to a true fanatic, indeed. Enjoy your religion. Don't get tested for prostate cancer, either, because you're equally likely to get cervical cancer, surely.

    , @Mr. Anon

    As opposed to the brainwashing techniques of Jared Taylor or Richard Spencer
     
    You mean talking.....................and presenting arguments based in actual facts. In what way is that brain-washing? Do you even know what brain-washing is? I'm certain that you are immune to brain-washing; one first has to one.

    You have a great many opinions for a person such as yourself, of such obviously conformist and limited intellect.

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  68. What goes unsaid in all this cultural appropriation stuff is that ONLY white people give a crap about cultures other than their own. White people love other cuisines so much that they use it as a way to convince themselves that we need unlimited immigration: the Curries and Kabobs School of Open Borders. Only white people “give a voice” to the food writers and chefs of other cultures, and they do it OBSESSIVELY, with a sickening level of obsequiousness.

    Ok, the Japanese will take on other cultures — such as French cooking — but then they do it in a very Japanese way, and they don’t import a million French people because they develop a taste for Chicken Provencal.

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    "a sickening level of obsequiousness"

    Obsequy (ob-SEEK-we). I'm not sure it's a word, but let's all use it and see if it sticks, because the accepted conjugation is awkward and prolix; or should I say it smacks of prolixitousness?

    And as for "conscientiousness"? Awful word! Let's try conscient (CON-she-unt) instead.

    Whadda y'all say? Are you with me!
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  69. I question your honesty, Corvinius. You must know where this “cultural appropriation” business is going. We are up to our ears in leftist absurdities backed by law, and you tell us that the next leftist absurdity is harmless. The people who gave us AIDS education soon gave us homo marriage, and shortly after they gave us tranny rights to switch bathrooms.

    No, I don’t question your honesty, I deny it.

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  70. @Corvinus
    "Nonsense. For better or worse, organized education has been one of the best methods of indoctrination since its beginning."

    Not indoctrination, but the spread of certain ideas that people are able to relate to or agree with.

    "It doesn’t even seem to be worthwhile to expand on this, but whether religious or secular, public education has always served a role in imparting ideas that can be divorced from the truth."

    Ideas that are reflective of a person's perceived reality.

    "I’ve further worked with college level material recently and frankly, they resemble much of the same brainwashing techniques used in prisoner camps."

    As opposed to the brainwashing techniques of Jared Taylor or Richard Spencer? If you are going to rail on indoctrination, then you best be prepared to equally take to task those on the right as well as the left. Confirmation bias much?

    "is ultimately not all that different from how captured Americans had to write essays about “Write about problems in America and how capitalism may contribute to it.”

    This question is markedly different, as it has been demonstrated that capitalism has been at the center of several of our political and economic problems. It is up to each author to explain to what extent is this economic philosophy at fault.

    "The idea that humans are somehow little bubbles of awareness that can’t be brainwashed or misled is a cognitive illusion..."

    I never made that implication.

    "much like the myth of equality and the myth of progress."

    Talk about being indoctrinated!

    "In fact, the entire reference to the 1950s completely demonstrates your ignorance of history. A large part of the attraction to “black music” was in fact, because it was implied to be more sexual and animalistic, and implied a more liberal view of sexuality; in no small part this was because of the “problematic” association of blacks with sexual assertiveness."

    First, rock and roll was not "black music"; its roots are from country and western, rhythm and blues, and blue grass. Second, music as a cultural expression that runs counter to the status quo will inevitably bring accusations of being immoral and sinful by authority figures. Third, white rock bands were equal to the task to objectifying women as black artists during this time period. Fourth, this "sexual assertiveness" of blacks was perpetuated by the general population of white southerners during Jim Crow to keep their womenfolk away from race mixing.

    "By the 1960s, this liberal view of sexuality was indeed consequence. Conservatives have NOT been wrong about the issues with slippery slope."

    By the early 1900's, American sexual attitudes were changing, albeit they were not widely publicized, due largely in part to industrialization and urbanization. There was promiscuity, homosexuality, and adultery. In "polite" society, these social problems were kept from the public eye. Hence, they received little press coverage. The 1960's ushered in a new era by which sexual topics could be openly discussed.

    What brainwashing techniques of Jared Taylor? Nobody is forced to read him. OTOH, college students are forced to read multi-cult tracts, and punished for disagreeing.

    And Black “sexual assertiveness” is no myth. Just check out their rates of venereal disease, if you haven’t the opportunity to know many of them in person.

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  71. @Buzz Mohawk
    I always assume such things are false flags or hoaxes until proven otherwise.

    Steve have given us many examples.

    "Innocent until proven guilty," is the logic that works for these times, as for all others. Any "hate crime" is a hoax until proven otherwise. Show me the perpetrators and prove what they did and why, or I will not listen to you.


    This latest wave of "anti-Semitic" stunts is especially suspicious to me. It would be best to completely ignore it. There is no real anti-Semitism of any consequence in the US. In fact, reality is the exact opposite, with everyone bending over backward to please Jews and Israelis, and born-agains hoping the new Zion heralds God's plan for everyone.

    Sick fantasy. All of it, especially the fake hate.

    And I am damn sure this comment will be construed to be anti-Semitic, when in fact it is not.

    There is no real anti-Semitism of any consequence in the US.

    You’re right. unz.com is about the only place I’ve seen it, in America.

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    A planned anti-Semitic attack was recently thwarted by the FBI:

    "S.C. man arrested for plotting Dylann Roof-inspired attack on synagogue"

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/02/16/SC-man-arrested-for-plotting-Dylann-Roof-inspired-attack-on-synagogue/1621487270792/
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    And a hearty LOL to you, Sir!

    There's that Askenazi wit.

    When I was a little boy, I didn't have the heart to tell my parents that I figured out Santa Claus is fake. I waited and let them tell me. Sometimes it's nicer to just let people think you believe in their myths.

    I could go back to that practice.

    I think I get your joke, but I'm 3/4 goy and therefore 3/4 dull. (You see, I still can pretend to believe other people's bullshit.)

    unz.com is a rare place of dialectical exchange of ideas, where commenters like you make it worthwhile. I wish you a good day, whatever you believe.

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  72. @Corvinus
    "Nonsense. For better or worse, organized education has been one of the best methods of indoctrination since its beginning."

    Not indoctrination, but the spread of certain ideas that people are able to relate to or agree with.

    "It doesn’t even seem to be worthwhile to expand on this, but whether religious or secular, public education has always served a role in imparting ideas that can be divorced from the truth."

    Ideas that are reflective of a person's perceived reality.

    "I’ve further worked with college level material recently and frankly, they resemble much of the same brainwashing techniques used in prisoner camps."

    As opposed to the brainwashing techniques of Jared Taylor or Richard Spencer? If you are going to rail on indoctrination, then you best be prepared to equally take to task those on the right as well as the left. Confirmation bias much?

    "is ultimately not all that different from how captured Americans had to write essays about “Write about problems in America and how capitalism may contribute to it.”

    This question is markedly different, as it has been demonstrated that capitalism has been at the center of several of our political and economic problems. It is up to each author to explain to what extent is this economic philosophy at fault.

    "The idea that humans are somehow little bubbles of awareness that can’t be brainwashed or misled is a cognitive illusion..."

    I never made that implication.

    "much like the myth of equality and the myth of progress."

    Talk about being indoctrinated!

    "In fact, the entire reference to the 1950s completely demonstrates your ignorance of history. A large part of the attraction to “black music” was in fact, because it was implied to be more sexual and animalistic, and implied a more liberal view of sexuality; in no small part this was because of the “problematic” association of blacks with sexual assertiveness."

    First, rock and roll was not "black music"; its roots are from country and western, rhythm and blues, and blue grass. Second, music as a cultural expression that runs counter to the status quo will inevitably bring accusations of being immoral and sinful by authority figures. Third, white rock bands were equal to the task to objectifying women as black artists during this time period. Fourth, this "sexual assertiveness" of blacks was perpetuated by the general population of white southerners during Jim Crow to keep their womenfolk away from race mixing.

    "By the 1960s, this liberal view of sexuality was indeed consequence. Conservatives have NOT been wrong about the issues with slippery slope."

    By the early 1900's, American sexual attitudes were changing, albeit they were not widely publicized, due largely in part to industrialization and urbanization. There was promiscuity, homosexuality, and adultery. In "polite" society, these social problems were kept from the public eye. Hence, they received little press coverage. The 1960's ushered in a new era by which sexual topics could be openly discussed.

    Not indoctrination, but the spread of certain ideas that people are able to relate to or agree with.

    Absolutely. And when I taught in some Muslim schools, the banners where they kept writing of the supremacy of the Muslim world and the fall of rival religions and the surrender of their leaders is only merely harmless ideas for people to relate or agree to.

    I’ve been around propaganda techniques my entire life. I might have even used some. Your blather is absolute hogwash. I’m not saying that anyone is per se, innocent(though the Left is far more active in using it due to being in power), but the idea that schools aren’t being used to indoctrinate to a common standard is frankly, hilarious.

    As opposed to the brainwashing techniques of Jared Taylor or Richard Spencer? If you are going to rail on indoctrination, then you best be prepared to equally take to task those on the right as well as the left. Confirmation bias much?

    You’re right, Richard Spencer totally can force my children to be judged according to his viewpoint, because the Right is in control of the levers of media and education. Oh wait, they aren’t.

    And the fact that you actually believe, or pretend to believe, in the myth of equality is hilarious. No point in talking to a true fanatic, indeed. Enjoy your religion. Don’t get tested for prostate cancer, either, because you’re equally likely to get cervical cancer, surely.

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    "Absolutely. And when I taught in some Muslim schools, the banners where they kept writing of the supremacy of the Muslim world and the fall of rival religions and the surrender of their leaders is only merely harmless ideas for people to relate or agree to."

    Do you have similar disdain when whites have banners about the supremacy of the white world who tout the inferiority of Islam and the fall of non-whites and their "bad white" acolytes who hold competing views about the nature and nurture of people?

    "but the idea that schools aren’t being used to indoctrinate to a common standard is frankly, hilarious."

    Perhaps that common standard reflects the general positions of those of which attend those schools, that it is other than indoctrination, but the spread of ideas that people tend to agree with.

    "And the fact that you actually believe, or pretend to believe, in the myth of equality is hilarious. No point in talking to a true fanatic, indeed. Enjoy your religion."

    Except those who believe in equality or diversity are promoting an ideology, not a religion. Wow, you have been thoroughly brainwashed.
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  73. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Maxwell published his Equations for everybody to read. Worse, Filipinos feel entitled to Culturally Appropriate them. So it’s hardly worthwhile for me to bother since my White Privilege doesn’t extend to a monopoly on Maxwell’s equations.

    According to Heidegger, Western science and technics appropriates Filipinos, along with everyone else, including whites, rather than the reverse. By contrast, something like cuisine is a part of authentic Dasein or Being there and Being in the world. Hence the unfolding telos of science and technics towards the obliteration of man and Being itself (e.g. by AI).

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  74. @International Jew

    There is no real anti-Semitism of any consequence in the US.
     
    You're right. unz.com is about the only place I've seen it, in America.

    A planned anti-Semitic attack was recently thwarted by the FBI:

    “S.C. man arrested for plotting Dylann Roof-inspired attack on synagogue”

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/02/16/SC-man-arrested-for-plotting-Dylann-Roof-inspired-attack-on-synagogue/1621487270792/

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  75. @Boomstick
    Once again Trump is a week or two ahead of reality.

    There have been a string of bomb threats against Jewish community centers. Predictably, the press said this was all the result of Trump supporters. Trump opined that the threats may have been false flag operations committed by leftists.

    The FBI arrested a guy:

    http://www.kmov.com/story/34657678/local-man-arrested-for-alleged-threats-against-jewish-community-centers


    A St. Louis man was arrested Friday morning for allegedly making multiple threats to Jewish Community Centers in the U.S.

    Authorities identified the suspect as 31 year-old Juan Thompson. He is charged with one count of cyber-stalking, which carries a maximum sentence of five years.
     

    The major media sites resolutely refrain from using a picture of the suspect, or giving us much information about him. I'll let you guess why.

    Nice, a black community organizer. His stepfather ranting (at 1:25 on the video) about the police’s indelicate tactics is a nice touch too.

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  76. @Daniel Chieh

    Not indoctrination, but the spread of certain ideas that people are able to relate to or agree with.
     
    Absolutely. And when I taught in some Muslim schools, the banners where they kept writing of the supremacy of the Muslim world and the fall of rival religions and the surrender of their leaders is only merely harmless ideas for people to relate or agree to.

    I've been around propaganda techniques my entire life. I might have even used some. Your blather is absolute hogwash. I'm not saying that anyone is per se, innocent(though the Left is far more active in using it due to being in power), but the idea that schools aren't being used to indoctrinate to a common standard is frankly, hilarious.


    As opposed to the brainwashing techniques of Jared Taylor or Richard Spencer? If you are going to rail on indoctrination, then you best be prepared to equally take to task those on the right as well as the left. Confirmation bias much?

     

    You're right, Richard Spencer totally can force my children to be judged according to his viewpoint, because the Right is in control of the levers of media and education. Oh wait, they aren't.

    And the fact that you actually believe, or pretend to believe, in the myth of equality is hilarious. No point in talking to a true fanatic, indeed. Enjoy your religion. Don't get tested for prostate cancer, either, because you're equally likely to get cervical cancer, surely.

    “Absolutely. And when I taught in some Muslim schools, the banners where they kept writing of the supremacy of the Muslim world and the fall of rival religions and the surrender of their leaders is only merely harmless ideas for people to relate or agree to.”

    Do you have similar disdain when whites have banners about the supremacy of the white world who tout the inferiority of Islam and the fall of non-whites and their “bad white” acolytes who hold competing views about the nature and nurture of people?

    “but the idea that schools aren’t being used to indoctrinate to a common standard is frankly, hilarious.”

    Perhaps that common standard reflects the general positions of those of which attend those schools, that it is other than indoctrination, but the spread of ideas that people tend to agree with.

    “And the fact that you actually believe, or pretend to believe, in the myth of equality is hilarious. No point in talking to a true fanatic, indeed. Enjoy your religion.”

    Except those who believe in equality or diversity are promoting an ideology, not a religion. Wow, you have been thoroughly brainwashed.

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  77. @International Jew

    There is no real anti-Semitism of any consequence in the US.
     
    You're right. unz.com is about the only place I've seen it, in America.

    And a hearty LOL to you, Sir!

    There’s that Askenazi wit.

    When I was a little boy, I didn’t have the heart to tell my parents that I figured out Santa Claus is fake. I waited and let them tell me. Sometimes it’s nicer to just let people think you believe in their myths.

    I could go back to that practice.

    I think I get your joke, but I’m 3/4 goy and therefore 3/4 dull. (You see, I still can pretend to believe other people’s bullshit.)

    unz.com is a rare place of dialectical exchange of ideas, where commenters like you make it worthwhile. I wish you a good day, whatever you believe.

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  78. >>Granted, white people don’t particularly care about Filipino cuisine

    Generally, I like Filipino people, but their food is stinky.

    When I was searching for a house 5 years ago I found one that I liked. After inspecting the interior I walked out into the back yard and an offensive odor came wafting over the wall dividing the house from the neighbors. I peeked over the wall and saw two Filipino dudes sitting down for a late afternoon repast. Checked that house off the list right there. Could never live next door to such cooking odors. Would drive me crazy.

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  79. As a white person I want a cut out of all the money East Asians make from selling manufactured goods which have European design input (just about all of them). And a cut of all the money blacks make from participating in sports invented by Europeans. And a cut of all the money made from the second world shipping and airline industries, which are dependent on white inventions and innovations.

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  80. Hurt feelings about cultural appropriation are silly, but that doesn’t stop them from being genuine and pretty common, little sob stories that “I was country when country wasn’t cool.”

    My own silly case of it: My mother grew up in a well-irrigated desert farming valley 60 miles from Las Vegas. (I grew up in Las Vegas.) Pomegranates were a popular thing in that valley. Each fall as a child and youth, I would pick dozens of pounds of pomegranates from my grandparents’ abundant bushes. Sometimes I would juice some with my grandfather and take home jelly made by my grandmother. Then around 1998, I read of a grower’s plans to cultivate pomegranates on a massive scale in Inyo County, California and actively market them nationwide. I was horrified. A traditional food of My People was going to be made popular and stripped of its roots!

    Twenty years later, I’m surprised that the pomegranate marketing plan worked, and that I can walk into any grocery store and buy a bottle of pomegranate juice. And when occasion allows, I always let people know that my relationship with pomegranates is special, unlike theirs.

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    So many pome-ingrates out there! I have no opinion on pomegranates, but I like your memory lane comment.
    , @donut
    Pomegranates may be as common as carrots now . That doesn't tarnish or change your relationship with pomegranates . Not diminished in the least way .
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  81. @Autochthon
    For Filipinos to bellyache about food in this context is especially whack-a-doo. Half their dishes are just disgusting amalgamations and appropriations of others': fried chicken & spaghetti? Spam? Has this lady ever even been to a Jollibee?

    C’mon!

    How about the pig snouts and bungs deep fried and served with slimy okra and bitter melon with a side of poured-from-the-number-10-can plum sauce cut with fermented coconut vinegar?

    Or the beef offal and tendons swimming in that melted sepia black lump sugar that smells like hexane?

    Huh? HUH?

    Now send all your money to Pinoy!

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    Mmm, rich!

    Nearly as rich as the green bean casserole with tins of mushroom soup?...

    Yumtastic.

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  82. This is what happens when non-whites ideologically appropriate Political Correctness from white people.

    It is so ‘racist’. How dare they appropriate white anti-whiteness? White Progs came up with anti-whiteness for their own self-loathing delight. Who are non-whites to appropriate such?

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  83. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    I have a better idea.

    White people should stop appropriating non-whites into white nations. Who are these ‘racist’ whites to insist that Filipinos and other non-whites leave their own homelands and settle in white lands and take on white ways, values, and manners?

    That is so ‘racist’.

    Demographic Appropriation must end.

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  84. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    When they took a picture of chop suey, I didn’t say anything because I’m not Chinese.
    When they took a picture of tacos, I didn’t say anything because I’m not Mexican.
    When they took a picture of moussaka, I didn’t say anything because I’m not Greek.
    So, when they came to take a picture of my food, there was no one to speak out(because their mouths were stuffed with food).

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  85. @peterike

    People overestimate the impact of Cultural Marxism in our educational institutions,
     
    Actually, they grossly UNDER estimate the impact. Here is a pictorial view of just what this indoctrination does.

    http://www.funnyjunk.com/channel/anti-sjw/Before+and+after+feminism/twgoLgj/

    “Actually, they grossly UNDER estimate the impact. Here is a pictorial view of just what this indoctrination does.”

    First, how does their metamorphosis personally impact your life? Why are you taking a “it takes a village” approach here? Nothing more than virtue signaling on your part.

    Second, you are arguing from a false premise–these women changed their looks squarely because of feminist ideologies. As a result, they are other than a “real” woman. You have little idea if that be the case. There could be other factors involved as to why they went from “this to that”. Besides, who really cares?

    Furthermore, cultures always have people who engage in behaviors that run counter to social norms. Feel free to shun them or ridicule them.

    Furthermore, is not Roosh a product of Cultural Marxism with his “pump and dump” lifestyle? That was the original source.

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  86. First, how does their metamorphosis personally impact your life?

    If you can really ask that about hordes of lovely young American white women being turned into PC monstrosities, then you’re sicker (and even more cucked) than I’ve always suspected you were.

    Furthermore, is not Roosh a product of Cultural Marxism with his “pump and dump” lifestyle? That was the original source.

    No. Roosh is a reaction to Cultural Marxism. “Game” is a survival strategy for a world gone mad.

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  87. USA is suffering from overproduction of elites. Elites love third-worlders. What’s the solution? A new Peace Corps!

    The old British Empire solved similar problems by sending out colonial administrators, and probably the Roman Empire also.

    All the overeducated young lefties should have the chance to honcho a team among the diverse people that they love in Africa, Middle East, Central America etc. Say it’ll cost $100k/year to support each individual. A mere billion dollars could keep 10,000 of these godlike youths from causing us trouble for a year, and it would be cheap at the price. (Remember that the previous administration borrowed $1B every 8 hours, every day of every year.) They might even learn something.

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  88. “As a Filipino, Celeste Noche feels she deserves to get a cut of every dollar that white people spend on Filipino food.

    Granted, white people don’t particularly care about Filipino cuisine,”

    99.99% of White people have never ate Filipino food in their entire lives and they never will. So Celeste Noche is not going to become a millionaire let alone a billionaire charging White people money everytime they eat Filipino food.

    From what I have read Filipino cuisine is vastly inferior to Korean, Thai, Japanese, and Chinese cuisine. So us White folks are not missing out on anything.

    I know White people who went to The Philippines who said the food there is so horrible that they ended up sticking with American food chains like Outback Steakhouse, Pizza Hut, Wendy’s, McDonald’s, Dominos, T.G.I Friday’s, Popeyes Louisiana Kitchen, KFC, Burger King, etc.

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  89. @jim jones
    My neighbour is a Filipino and he recently contracted an eye infection for which he was prescribed a course of antibiotics. I wasted no time in telling him that he was appropriating the Scientific genius of White men.

    Jim Jones are you the White man who runs a Black church in San Francisco?

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  90. @Autochthon
    For Filipinos to bellyache about food in this context is especially whack-a-doo. Half their dishes are just disgusting amalgamations and appropriations of others': fried chicken & spaghetti? Spam? Has this lady ever even been to a Jollibee?

    “fried chicken & spaghetti?”

    Fried chicken and spaghetti is the epitome of Western cuisine, a.k.a the White man’s cuisine. There is nothing Filipino or Asian in general about it.

    “Has this lady ever even been to a Jollibee?”

    Jollibee serves hamburgers and french fries. Talk about culturally appropriating the White man. People with Chinky Mongoloid eyes didn’t invent fries and burgers.

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    The word for "hamburger" in virtually EVERY Language on earth is "hamburger" or some phonetic approximation. Every country on earth has "appropriated" the hamburger from us.

    PS Does anyone know of a language where the word for hamburger is not related to hamburger? Even the French who usually make a big show of inventing their own words for everything still call a hamburger a hamburger.
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  91. @JamesG
    English is an official language of the Philippines.

    They should thank the USA every time they say "Hello".

    “English is an official language of the Philippines.

    They should thank the USA every time they say “Hello”.

    Many years ago when I used to talk to Filipino women on Skype I could barely understand Filipino English.

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    True, and you can tell within about three seconds when the call center that you have to endure to solve some household problem is located in the Philippines.

    Still, the Filipinos should thank the U.S. every day for our presence there, which is responsible for the bulk of their GDP. Filipinos comprise a huge clerical labor force, and thus remittances, in the Gulf and other Arab countries due mostly to their English ability (and, to a lesser extent, to their docility and willigness to work for a few hundred dollars per month).
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  92. @Corvinus
    “Filipino cuisine” is the world’s single most disgusting cuisine. It’s as though the recipes were designed by children, with huge amounts of sugar as the main ingredient."

    Not really.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_cuisine

    True, Filipinos suffer from higher rates of diabetes, but that is other than surprising for a carbohydrate-loading nation, whose staple meals include rice, bread, sweet potato, corn and other food with high levels of sugar content.

    Now, to the topic at hand. This blog post is much ado about nothing. Some two-bit blogger talks about microaggressions and food, and it becomes a "story" for the Alt Right, one that perpetuates their narrative.

    In reality, she is a complete fool. Giving her digital ink only feeds into the foolishness known as the Coalition of the Fringes.

    Me: Hey, Corvinus, did you hear about those crazy people who eat poop sandwiches? Pretty weird, huh? I think they’re called coprophages or something.
    Corvinus: DE GUSTIBUS NON DISPUTAM ALTRIGHTER!!!!!!!11!!!!! NOW LET’S TALK ABOUT HOW VOX DAY’S SPELLING ERROR MEANS YOU CAN’T HAVE A COUNTRY ANYMORE!!
    Me: Woah, calm down, bud! I just think people should eat good food, Crow-man, no need to harsh anybody’s mellow.
    Corvinus: ACTUALLY MY WIKIPEDIA RESEARCH PROVES THAT MELLOWS CANNOT BE HARSHED, UNLIKE WHAT THAT ROOSH V WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE!!!!
    Me: Who?
    Corvinus: I AM THE ONE TRUE MODERATE!!!!!!!!

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  93. Bruno Mars culturallly appropriates African American music when he is not part of the African American community. He is a Filipino from extremely Nonblack Hawaii. Taki Magazine writer Jim Goad who is from 75 percent Black Stone Mountain, Georgia has had way more exposure to Black people on a daily basis than Bruno Mars ever will.

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  94. @Corvinus
    "Corvinus, I can’t agree with you because all of this cultural appropriation mush becomes food that is fed to the young in school and that is a fact."

    As opposed to teaching those same young people the truth about race realism and human biodiversity, that there is a battle going on between "good whites" and "bad whites", that one's race is one's uniform in an impending racial civil war?

    People overestimate the impact of Cultural Marxism in our educational institutions, as if this phenomenon created by Jews has this power and influence over the minds of today's young people. Perhaps kids and teens realize that the "adults in the room" truly have no clue about how they view the world, one that is decidedly different than their parents generation.

    I'm certain that 50's teens who grew up lionizing rock and roll musicians, particularly blacks, tended to shake their heads at their moms and dads, laughing at the notion that by idolizing "subhuman creatures" they would somehow lose their way in life.

    Those who talk about "going back to the days when white men ruled and white women knew their place" are way behind the times. It's not going back to those halcyon days, if even that "perfect life" had existed in the manner they recall. It's called human progress.

    corvinus, I actually like your writing style but you project. I never proposed “going back to the days when white men ruled and women knew their place.” My four daughters are successful because I pushed them to be more than that.

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    "I never proposed “going back to the days when white men ruled and women knew their place.”

    Correct, that is why I said "those who talk...".
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  95. @Abe
    Occurred to me a couple years ago, once it became apparent the whole micro-aggression thing wasn't a big joke, but how long before the major supermarket chains, which in the US always have aisles marked "Asian" and "Latin", get struggle-sessioned for exoticizing and otherizing cuisines that "have always been part of America"? ("And how come there no aisle that say 'White People Food' in the grocery store?")

    “(“And how come there no aisle that say ‘White People Food’ in the grocery store?”)

    Will there be frozen lasagna and frozen chicken parmigiana in the White people food aisle in the future?

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    Don't forget the garlic bread and pizza!
    Since beverages are in order, will the beer aisle be limited to white ales and hefeweizens, or will people sneak in a Lite or similar?
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  96. @Jefferson
    "(“And how come there no aisle that say ‘White People Food’ in the grocery store?”)

    Will there be frozen lasagna and frozen chicken parmigiana in the White people food aisle in the future?

    Don’t forget the garlic bread and pizza!
    Since beverages are in order, will the beer aisle be limited to white ales and hefeweizens, or will people sneak in a Lite or similar?

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  97. @Buffalo Joe
    corvinus, I actually like your writing style but you project. I never proposed "going back to the days when white men ruled and women knew their place." My four daughters are successful because I pushed them to be more than that.

    “I never proposed “going back to the days when white men ruled and women knew their place.”

    Correct, that is why I said “those who talk…”.

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  98. Eddie Huang the Chinese chef who inspired the television show Fresh Off The Boat culturally appropriates European cuisine and Latin American cuisine all of the time. He should stick to his own kind, which is cuisine from The Far East.

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  99. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Steve,
    Maxwell's Equations have more to do with the fact of radio and television. Power electricity such as hydro electric projects has more to do with such pioneers as Faraday, Coulomb, Ohm, Ampere, Volta, Galvani, Oersted, Tesla, Henry etc - many of whose names are commemorated today as the names of fundamental electrical units.

    It’s actually possible to do everything an electrician or an electronic technician will ever do, without the least ( or only a cursory overview of) Maxwell, and further, a large percentage of electrical engineers will never actually use Maxwell’s equations on a practical level in their whole career.

    True , what you will use has been derived from, or is mathematically provable by, Maxwell.

    It’s much like solid state physics: if you aren’t actually fabricating semiconductors you don’t need a bit of it. Bipolar transistors (NPN and PNP) can be viewed as variable resistors controlled by current and FET’s (and vacuum tubes) variable resistors controlled by voltage.

    You will use Ohm’s law a lot, Kirchoff once in a while and if you are doing RF the Smith Chart.
    The rest is cookbookery and divide and conquer.

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  100. @Olorin
    C'mon!

    How about the pig snouts and bungs deep fried and served with slimy okra and bitter melon with a side of poured-from-the-number-10-can plum sauce cut with fermented coconut vinegar?

    Or the beef offal and tendons swimming in that melted sepia black lump sugar that smells like hexane?

    Huh? HUH?

    Now send all your money to Pinoy!

    Mmm, rich!

    Nearly as rich as the green bean casserole with tins of mushroom soup?…

    Yumtastic.

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  101. “These fucks ate putzi before we gave them the gift of our cuisine.”

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    The founders of McDonalds and Starbucks did not make their businesses world-famous; it took businessmen Ray Kroc and Howard Schultz respectively. Marketing and vision is more important than the product itself.

    Brothers Tom and James Monaghan founded Domino's Pizza. Tom gave James a Volkswagen Beetle in exchange for his half of the business. I assume that they are not Italian.
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  102. @Connecticut Famer
    Don't know anything about Filipino cuisine other than something called a "Balut" which I've heard is absolutely god-awful.

    Balut.

    I can confirm that. I once bit into one during a rest stop on a long-distance bus journey.

    I can still taste and feel the vile contents of the bloody thing after 35 years.

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  103. @Jefferson
    "fried chicken & spaghetti?"

    Fried chicken and spaghetti is the epitome of Western cuisine, a.k.a the White man's cuisine. There is nothing Filipino or Asian in general about it.

    "Has this lady ever even been to a Jollibee?"

    Jollibee serves hamburgers and french fries. Talk about culturally appropriating the White man. People with Chinky Mongoloid eyes didn't invent fries and burgers.

    The word for “hamburger” in virtually EVERY Language on earth is “hamburger” or some phonetic approximation. Every country on earth has “appropriated” the hamburger from us.

    PS Does anyone know of a language where the word for hamburger is not related to hamburger? Even the French who usually make a big show of inventing their own words for everything still call a hamburger a hamburger.

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    OK, I could not resist this challenge and skimmed Wikipedia for the following:

    https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%97sainis
    https://lmo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svizzera_(mangi%C3%A0)
    https://frp.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-bist%C3%A8ca


    Even in the Greek and Cyrillic alphabets (which I don't know but could sort of make out here), it certainly appeared that every other western language uses "hamburger." Even in the above citations, "hamburger" is given as an alternate name.

    Can't speak for the languages with non-Western alphabets, though...
    , @Olorin
    For gods' sake, don't let them know it's a GERMANIC word!!!!

    Or that the word "cheeseburger" was born in 1938!!!!!!!

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=hamburger
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  104. @Connecticut Famer
    Don't know anything about Filipino cuisine other than something called a "Balut" which I've heard is absolutely god-awful.

    It falls in the category of the disgusting stuff that Andrew Zimmern eats on his “Bizarre Foods” show on cable TV. It’s the unhatched embryo of a duck.

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  105. @Dennis Dale
    "These fucks ate putzi before we gave them the gift of our cuisine."

    https://youtu.be/cUKJWsnAAXs

    The founders of McDonalds and Starbucks did not make their businesses world-famous; it took businessmen Ray Kroc and Howard Schultz respectively. Marketing and vision is more important than the product itself.

    Brothers Tom and James Monaghan founded Domino’s Pizza. Tom gave James a Volkswagen Beetle in exchange for his half of the business. I assume that they are not Italian.

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  106. @Mr. Anon

    Not really.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_cuisine
     

    Gosh, you can look things up on Wikipedia. What a bright fellow you are. Have you ever eaten any?

    “Gosh, you can look things up on Wikipedia. What a bright fellow you are. Have you ever eaten any?”

    To get a taste, try Lickipedia.

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  107. @peterike
    What goes unsaid in all this cultural appropriation stuff is that ONLY white people give a crap about cultures other than their own. White people love other cuisines so much that they use it as a way to convince themselves that we need unlimited immigration: the Curries and Kabobs School of Open Borders. Only white people "give a voice" to the food writers and chefs of other cultures, and they do it OBSESSIVELY, with a sickening level of obsequiousness.

    Ok, the Japanese will take on other cultures -- such as French cooking -- but then they do it in a very Japanese way, and they don't import a million French people because they develop a taste for Chicken Provencal.

    “a sickening level of obsequiousness”

    Obsequy (ob-SEEK-we). I’m not sure it’s a word, but let’s all use it and see if it sticks, because the accepted conjugation is awkward and prolix; or should I say it smacks of prolixitousness?

    And as for “conscientiousness”? Awful word! Let’s try conscient (CON-she-unt) instead.

    Whadda y’all say? Are you with me!

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  108. @Buffalo Joe
    Buzz, Everything about Bourdain gives me agita.

    He has a daughter. I wish the child well, but everything I know about him suggests she is headed for the pole, if not worse.

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  109. @John Mansfield
    Hurt feelings about cultural appropriation are silly, but that doesn't stop them from being genuine and pretty common, little sob stories that "I was country when country wasn't cool."

    My own silly case of it: My mother grew up in a well-irrigated desert farming valley 60 miles from Las Vegas. (I grew up in Las Vegas.) Pomegranates were a popular thing in that valley. Each fall as a child and youth, I would pick dozens of pounds of pomegranates from my grandparents' abundant bushes. Sometimes I would juice some with my grandfather and take home jelly made by my grandmother. Then around 1998, I read of a grower's plans to cultivate pomegranates on a massive scale in Inyo County, California and actively market them nationwide. I was horrified. A traditional food of My People was going to be made popular and stripped of its roots!

    Twenty years later, I'm surprised that the pomegranate marketing plan worked, and that I can walk into any grocery store and buy a bottle of pomegranate juice. And when occasion allows, I always let people know that my relationship with pomegranates is special, unlike theirs.

    So many pome-ingrates out there! I have no opinion on pomegranates, but I like your memory lane comment.

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  110. @Jack D
    The word for "hamburger" in virtually EVERY Language on earth is "hamburger" or some phonetic approximation. Every country on earth has "appropriated" the hamburger from us.

    PS Does anyone know of a language where the word for hamburger is not related to hamburger? Even the French who usually make a big show of inventing their own words for everything still call a hamburger a hamburger.

    OK, I could not resist this challenge and skimmed Wikipedia for the following:

    https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%97sainis

    https://lmo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svizzera_(mangi%C3%A0)

    https://frp.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-bist%C3%A8ca

    Even in the Greek and Cyrillic alphabets (which I don’t know but could sort of make out here), it certainly appeared that every other western language uses “hamburger.” Even in the above citations, “hamburger” is given as an alternate name.

    Can’t speak for the languages with non-Western alphabets, though…

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    Lithuanian is an actual (and strange) language but the other two (Lombard and Provencal) are really just dialects.

    Even in Chinese, hamburger is hanbaobao.
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  111. At first I thought being a gourmand I might be at last able to make a meaningful contribution . But alas it is not to be . “Filipino-American Celeste Noche, who is a food and travel photographer” , I am almost at a loss for words . She is a fucking tourist . I only wish I could have secured such a soft berth . And I don’t think anyone in the west is going to “culturally appropriate” Filipino “cuisine” .

    “Balut , balut , balute sir ?” was the morning wake up call in the RP .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balut_(food)

    We were all young men with hardons , blue veined diamond cutters, you feel me ? after four months at sea when we pulled into Subic Bay for repairs . Truly a sailors paradise . We all rushed ashore into town . Even the whores seemed innocent and sweet . So different and unusual with their jet black hair and easy ways . Of course I arranged a Subic Bay marriage after a week or so . Lucy , god bless her . Every morning just before sunrise I would hear “Balut , balut , balute sir ?” . Well hearts like promises are made to be broken . How ever one of my shipmates like so many other fools fell in love with the first girl he met in the first bar he walked into . He was , unlike the rest of us though a young man with a sense honor , dignity , morals , I don’t know having none of those qualities myself . He had come to sea as an ordinary seaman after being encouraged to leave The Naval Academy about to enter his junior year . The poor fool had actually taken their principles to heart . They told him to come back when he had “matured” (been corrupted ) . Anyway he married that girl and they had two children together and he moved to the RP . He was originally from Chicago , so I would have to say that was a move up . Years later I found out that Lucy had married a USN sailor and God bless her I wish her well .

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  112. @John Mansfield
    Hurt feelings about cultural appropriation are silly, but that doesn't stop them from being genuine and pretty common, little sob stories that "I was country when country wasn't cool."

    My own silly case of it: My mother grew up in a well-irrigated desert farming valley 60 miles from Las Vegas. (I grew up in Las Vegas.) Pomegranates were a popular thing in that valley. Each fall as a child and youth, I would pick dozens of pounds of pomegranates from my grandparents' abundant bushes. Sometimes I would juice some with my grandfather and take home jelly made by my grandmother. Then around 1998, I read of a grower's plans to cultivate pomegranates on a massive scale in Inyo County, California and actively market them nationwide. I was horrified. A traditional food of My People was going to be made popular and stripped of its roots!

    Twenty years later, I'm surprised that the pomegranate marketing plan worked, and that I can walk into any grocery store and buy a bottle of pomegranate juice. And when occasion allows, I always let people know that my relationship with pomegranates is special, unlike theirs.

    Pomegranates may be as common as carrots now . That doesn’t tarnish or change your relationship with pomegranates . Not diminished in the least way .

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  113. @Jack D
    The word for "hamburger" in virtually EVERY Language on earth is "hamburger" or some phonetic approximation. Every country on earth has "appropriated" the hamburger from us.

    PS Does anyone know of a language where the word for hamburger is not related to hamburger? Even the French who usually make a big show of inventing their own words for everything still call a hamburger a hamburger.

    For gods’ sake, don’t let them know it’s a GERMANIC word!!!!

    Or that the word “cheeseburger” was born in 1938!!!!!!!

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=hamburger

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  114. @Corvinus
    "Nonsense. For better or worse, organized education has been one of the best methods of indoctrination since its beginning."

    Not indoctrination, but the spread of certain ideas that people are able to relate to or agree with.

    "It doesn’t even seem to be worthwhile to expand on this, but whether religious or secular, public education has always served a role in imparting ideas that can be divorced from the truth."

    Ideas that are reflective of a person's perceived reality.

    "I’ve further worked with college level material recently and frankly, they resemble much of the same brainwashing techniques used in prisoner camps."

    As opposed to the brainwashing techniques of Jared Taylor or Richard Spencer? If you are going to rail on indoctrination, then you best be prepared to equally take to task those on the right as well as the left. Confirmation bias much?

    "is ultimately not all that different from how captured Americans had to write essays about “Write about problems in America and how capitalism may contribute to it.”

    This question is markedly different, as it has been demonstrated that capitalism has been at the center of several of our political and economic problems. It is up to each author to explain to what extent is this economic philosophy at fault.

    "The idea that humans are somehow little bubbles of awareness that can’t be brainwashed or misled is a cognitive illusion..."

    I never made that implication.

    "much like the myth of equality and the myth of progress."

    Talk about being indoctrinated!

    "In fact, the entire reference to the 1950s completely demonstrates your ignorance of history. A large part of the attraction to “black music” was in fact, because it was implied to be more sexual and animalistic, and implied a more liberal view of sexuality; in no small part this was because of the “problematic” association of blacks with sexual assertiveness."

    First, rock and roll was not "black music"; its roots are from country and western, rhythm and blues, and blue grass. Second, music as a cultural expression that runs counter to the status quo will inevitably bring accusations of being immoral and sinful by authority figures. Third, white rock bands were equal to the task to objectifying women as black artists during this time period. Fourth, this "sexual assertiveness" of blacks was perpetuated by the general population of white southerners during Jim Crow to keep their womenfolk away from race mixing.

    "By the 1960s, this liberal view of sexuality was indeed consequence. Conservatives have NOT been wrong about the issues with slippery slope."

    By the early 1900's, American sexual attitudes were changing, albeit they were not widely publicized, due largely in part to industrialization and urbanization. There was promiscuity, homosexuality, and adultery. In "polite" society, these social problems were kept from the public eye. Hence, they received little press coverage. The 1960's ushered in a new era by which sexual topics could be openly discussed.

    As opposed to the brainwashing techniques of Jared Taylor or Richard Spencer

    You mean talking…………………and presenting arguments based in actual facts. In what way is that brain-washing? Do you even know what brain-washing is? I’m certain that you are immune to brain-washing; one first has to one.

    You have a great many opinions for a person such as yourself, of such obviously conformist and limited intellect.

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  115. @benjaminl
    OK, I could not resist this challenge and skimmed Wikipedia for the following:

    https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%97sainis
    https://lmo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svizzera_(mangi%C3%A0)
    https://frp.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-bist%C3%A8ca


    Even in the Greek and Cyrillic alphabets (which I don't know but could sort of make out here), it certainly appeared that every other western language uses "hamburger." Even in the above citations, "hamburger" is given as an alternate name.

    Can't speak for the languages with non-Western alphabets, though...

    Lithuanian is an actual (and strange) language but the other two (Lombard and Provencal) are really just dialects.

    Even in Chinese, hamburger is hanbaobao.

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    By God, gents, we've done it! Don't you see?! The humble hamburger is the one true path that actually can make multiculturalism work; it holds the mystic power to unite mankind across all divides, forevermore! Let us follow its sizzling, meaty light to a new Jerusalem! We can start by using it to heal the rift between the U.S.A. and Mexico. Get Trump on the phone; there's been a change of plans.

    ¡Viva la hamburguesa!
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  116. @Jack D
    Lithuanian is an actual (and strange) language but the other two (Lombard and Provencal) are really just dialects.

    Even in Chinese, hamburger is hanbaobao.

    By God, gents, we’ve done it! Don’t you see?! The humble hamburger is the one true path that actually can make multiculturalism work; it holds the mystic power to unite mankind across all divides, forevermore! Let us follow its sizzling, meaty light to a new Jerusalem! We can start by using it to heal the rift between the U.S.A. and Mexico. Get Trump on the phone; there’s been a change of plans.

    ¡Viva la hamburguesa!

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  117. @Rob McX
    Maybe food available on EBT cards should match the ancestral origins of the recipient. Blacks would have to accept payment in grubs, cockroaches and bushmeat.

    Blacks need to stop ordering Chinese takeout, French fries, enchiladas, and pizza. Whites should stop oppressing Japs by buying sushi. And those atheist Jews who eat Vietnamese spicy noodle and beef bowls on Christmas are just conscience-free usurpers of culture.

    “Cultural appropriation: it’s what’s for dinner.”

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  118. @Daniel Chieh
    Nonsense. For better or worse, organized education has been one of the best methods of indoctrination since its beginning. It doesn't even seem to be worthwhile to expand on this, but whether religious or secular, public education has always served a role in imparting ideas that can be divorced from the truth.

    I've further worked with college level material recently and frankly, they resemble much of the same brainwashing techniques used in prisoner camps. "Write an essay exploring the oppression of the blind in an optical normative society, using examples of how the disability model serves to marginalize minority experiences," is ultimately not all that different from how captured Americans had to write essays about "Write about problems in America and how capitalism may contribute to it."

    The idea that humans are somehow little bubbles of awareness that can't be brainwashed or misled is a cognitive illusion, much like the myth of equality and the myth of progress. Its poppycock. Its a pretty and happy lie, a noble lie that might sound nice but it does not correspond to reality, or else, marketing wouldn't bother to exist.

    In fact, the entire reference to the 1950s completely demonstrates your ignorance of history. A large part of the attraction to "black music" was in fact, because it was implied to be more sexual and animalistic, and implied a more liberal view of sexuality; in no small part this was because of the "problematic" association of blacks with sexual assertiveness.

    By the 1960s, this liberal view of sexuality was indeed consequence. Conservatives have NOT been wrong about the issues with slippery slope.

    Love your comments Mr. Chieh. I’m watching the OJ documentary. Quite insightful.

    We now have a black Muslim arrested for threats against synagogues. What is most interesting about that story is that he blamed it on his ex white girlfriend. I’m thinking she was to be OJd had he not been arrested.

    The pollution of cultural Marxism has destroyed a lot of young white women. His ex is lucky.

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  119. I like this blog. But shouldn’t replies directly follow the person to whom you are responding. I adore zerohedge because the thread shows all the responses.

    That’s the flaw with this blog. Other than that, great blog.

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    If you hover your cursor over the names that are replying to a comment or the name that someone is replying to, you can read the post.

    The founder of this site, Ron Unz, recently asked for feedback and most people not only like the current posting system but think that is the best they have ever encountered.
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  120. @Anonymous
    Andrew Zimmern's show Bizarre Food on the Travel Channel actually travels around the world eating things like slugs, snails, and monkey excrement. Bourdain tends to stick to less exotic, exotic food.

    Bourdain wasn't just a restaurant employee, but a successful restaurateur and author. I've eaten at his restaurant in Manhattan, which is ok but overpriced and fairly mediocre casual French cuisine.

    Bourdain also had a long running show on the Travel Channel before his new CNN show. His old show was much better and not political at all.

    Bourdain was never a restaurant owner. He was always just an employee.

    The girl and I dined at Les Halles when he was the chef and again after he left for fame and glory on the tube. It was actually a better experience the first time, though it may have had more to do with the publicity he generated causing a tourist trap, turn-and-burn attitude than the absence of his chef skills.

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    Bourdain seems like a pretty good TV star. Like the Top Gear guy or Simon Cowell on the singing show: if I was at all interested in the topic, I'd probably watch his show rather than most other presenter's show.

    Who was the white guy with the Afro a generation ago who had a painting show? Bob Ross? He was hypnotic.
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  121. @MadDog
    I like this blog. But shouldn't replies directly follow the person to whom you are responding. I adore zerohedge because the thread shows all the responses.

    That's the flaw with this blog. Other than that, great blog.

    If you hover your cursor over the names that are replying to a comment or the name that someone is replying to, you can read the post.

    The founder of this site, Ron Unz, recently asked for feedback and most people not only like the current posting system but think that is the best they have ever encountered.

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  122. @Brutusale
    Bourdain was never a restaurant owner. He was always just an employee.

    The girl and I dined at Les Halles when he was the chef and again after he left for fame and glory on the tube. It was actually a better experience the first time, though it may have had more to do with the publicity he generated causing a tourist trap, turn-and-burn attitude than the absence of his chef skills.

    Bourdain seems like a pretty good TV star. Like the Top Gear guy or Simon Cowell on the singing show: if I was at all interested in the topic, I’d probably watch his show rather than most other presenter’s show.

    Who was the white guy with the Afro a generation ago who had a painting show? Bob Ross? He was hypnotic.

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    http://www.npr.org/2016/08/29/490923502/the-real-bob-ross-meet-the-meticulous-artist-behind-those-happy-trees
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  123. @Steve Sailer
    Bourdain seems like a pretty good TV star. Like the Top Gear guy or Simon Cowell on the singing show: if I was at all interested in the topic, I'd probably watch his show rather than most other presenter's show.

    Who was the white guy with the Afro a generation ago who had a painting show? Bob Ross? He was hypnotic.
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  124. @Jefferson
    "English is an official language of the Philippines.

    They should thank the USA every time they say “Hello”.

    Many years ago when I used to talk to Filipino women on Skype I could barely understand Filipino English.

    True, and you can tell within about three seconds when the call center that you have to endure to solve some household problem is located in the Philippines.

    Still, the Filipinos should thank the U.S. every day for our presence there, which is responsible for the bulk of their GDP. Filipinos comprise a huge clerical labor force, and thus remittances, in the Gulf and other Arab countries due mostly to their English ability (and, to a lesser extent, to their docility and willigness to work for a few hundred dollars per month).

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