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The New York Times introduced us to the Sitting Racist Object Menace last December:

“Millions of racist objects sit in the homes of everyday Americans.”

Now, it’s back:

What to Do With the Swastika in the Attic?
By JESSICA M. GOLDSTEIN JULY 7, 2017

I once thought there were a few things on which Americans all could agree, and that “Nazis are bad” was among them. I’ve recently been unnerved to discover, or to be reminded, that this is not the case. …

The Anti-Defamation League reported that, in the first quarter of 2017, acts aimed at Jews and Jewish institutions surged by 86 percent. …

Okay, granted, a huge fraction of those were perpetrated by a Jewish guy in Israel, but that’s not the point. The point is that we’re holding The Megaphone and you’re not. As the head of the ADL pointed out after the arrest of the Israeli Jew who had phoned in hundreds of bomb threats reported by the ADL:

While the details of this crime remain unclear, the impact of this individual’s actions is crystal clear: These were acts of anti-Semitism.

Ms. Goldstein goes on:

… I figure it’s about time to do something with that swastika in the attic.

I must have seen it for the first time in childhood. The red edges are ragged; this circle, four feet across, cut from a giant banner and signed by the men in my grandfather’s United States Army unit, the 460th Antiaircraft Artillery Automatic Weapons Battalion. They made it to the Berghof, Hitler’s retreat in the Bavarian Alps, in the spring of 1945. The war was over when they got there. My grandpa took the flag. A souvenir.

That’s pretty cool. Do you have any male relatives who would want your grandfather’s trophy?

 
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  1. jim jones says:

    I have no Nazi objects around my house, I assume I am therefore culturally spotless.

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    I have some books which contain pictures of swastikas. Like, swastikas on flags. Shall I burn those books?
    , @cucksworth
    There are Swatstickers on an old building at 3rd and chestnut that need to be defaced. Lets allow the ADL to tell us how to live our lives out of fear of being branded the pejorative du marche
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  2. El Dato says:

    What is this?

    Doesn’t everyone have a swastika in the attic?

    As artifacts go, the swastika presents some interesting challenges. Can’t really hang it in the house. “No, it’s O.K.!” I imagine my mom assuring guests. “It’s a stolen Nazi flag.”

    I’m not sure which new swastika flicked some switch in me. But after the election I decided, with conviction so intense it was almost alarming, our flag needs to be seen.

    This is something out of Father Ted, I am sure?

    I brought the flag back to my apartment, unfolded it, spread it out on a table. It was really in Hitler’s house. The Hitler. He probably heiled it in the morning over a bowl of muesli before a long day at the office of orchestrating mass genocide.

    The swastika hummed with violence, like something cursed, or alive.

    What?

    I’d spent much of the morning in a new exhibition, “State of Deception: The Power of Nazi Propaganda.” It opened the same day that President Trump issued an executive order barring Syrian refugees and immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States. I was stunned by the installation’s unplanned prescience. The language of religious fear mongering has changed little since the 1930s. It felt as if the present was plagiarizing the past.

    What??

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Doesn’t everyone have a swastika in the attic?
     
    There is a Swastika in America's attic:

    http://o.canada.com/news/swastika-ontario-is-a-real-place-in-canada
    , @donut
    You know if that slag's grandfather served at all he never got within the sound of actual gunfire .
    , @Anon
    Why would the Chinese care so much about Nazis? Not only do they have lots of swastikas over there but the Nazis were quite friendly to Nationalist China.
  3. Altai says:

    Wait? What? She’s (Let’s take her at face value and assume she is just an hysterical boomer and not engaged in neocon propaganda) scared of Nazis coming back and so she wants to take away a war memento that powerfully illustrates their actual defeat at a time when their forces seemed so unstoppable?

    A flag located in the dark of her own attic?

    What?

    Who wants to bet the banner fragment doesn’t even exist (If she has a banner from Hitler’s retreat signed by a whole army unit it would be the star attraction in a lot of museum exhibits) and she just wanted to write a languid prose describing the magic totem of Amalek?

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  4. reiner Tor says: • Website
    @jim jones
    I have no Nazi objects around my house, I assume I am therefore culturally spotless.

    I have some books which contain pictures of swastikas. Like, swastikas on flags. Shall I burn those books?

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    • Replies: @Rob McX, @syonredux

    I have some books which contain pictures of swastikas. Like, swastikas on flags. Shall I burn those books?
     
    Well, maybe if the books were written by Kipling....


    http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/facts_swastik.htm

    https://www.google.com/search?q=rudyard+kipling+swastika&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRsZTp3fzUAhVH2WMKHfa2DkYQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=638

    I mean, Kipling+Swastika....Talk about doubleplusungood......
  5. I inherited a few take-homes from the war, as well as a nice collection of major WWII rifles and pistols used by the British, American and German armies. I plan on buying Russian and Japanese weapons to expand the collection. So what? I wouldn’t turn down a bow or saddle from Genghis Khan, either.

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  6. Stogumber says:

    I once did some research about gay Nazi porn – using Nazi symbols in gay porn and having Nazis as, alternately, perpetrators or victims in playful gay rape representations.
    Of course, connecting Nazi symbols with gayness was unthinkable in Germany 1933-1945.
    The fashion began in American homosexual biker circles after WWII with their pronounced cult of maleness. Those bikers were mostly war veterans. And the Nazi was respected for his masculinity – the kind of respect fighters have for a strong opponent.

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  7. My grandpa (died before I met him) fought against the Nazis. He brought back some swastika lapel pins and occupied France coins with swastikas, which I still have in the house. I always thought they were war trophies from the Nazis he killed. Thanks to the NYT I now understand that grandpa killing Nazis was only a pose. Since he was a white male, he obviously was always a Nazi in his heart, but covered it up during the war.

    Off topic slightly, but here’s a prediction I will make for the summer of 2020. The Olympics will be in Tokyo then. Buddhist temples prominently display swastikas, which were a Buddhist symbol thousands of years before Hitler. Japanese maps even use swastikas to mark the location of temples.

    Prediction 1 (100% confidence). Some MSM organization will write an editorial saying that Japan need some to change this since it will be a trigger for the many victims of the Nazis.

    Prediction 2 (50% confidence). Some SJW writer visiting Japan for the Olympics will note Japan’s lack of diversity and the swastikas and somehow make a like between the two.

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    • Replies: @anonguy
    The temple swastikas have been triggering foreigners since forever but I have noted in recent years that the tempo and hysteria is increasing.
  8. I have a Nazi belt buckle that my father took from a POW. No, you can’t have it. Moreover, it’s an artifact, not a statement of a political position.

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  9. So grandpa fought his way across Europe to end up spawning an ungrateful idiot who’s biggest challenge in life is a flag in an attic that ‘hums with violence’. The poor guy must be spinning is his grave.

    Go down on your knees and thank your god that millions of young men fought to make a world where you can spout your bullshit in your ‘job’.

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  10. unit472 says:

    I once had a Nazi dagger engraved with Deutschland Uber Alles. I also had an old Porsche that needed repair. The Porsche dealer in San Francisco had been in the Hitler Youth and he wanted my dagger and I agreed to give it to him in exchange for him doing the repair. I would have been better off in the long run had I kept that 1958 Porsche but, sadly, the dagger and the Porsche are but distant memories today.

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  11. Rob McX says:
    @reiner Tor
    I have some books which contain pictures of swastikas. Like, swastikas on flags. Shall I burn those books?
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    • Replies: @El Dato

    (in another unfortunate coincidence, the spokesman's phone number contains the year Hitler published Mein Kampf, in which he explains why he adopted the swastika as the Nazi symbol)
     
    This is more hard-core noticing than found in a Chinese checking for number 7.
    , @PiltdownMan
    That article in The Guardian about the bank branch in Britain with the pre-war floor-mosaic swastikas has a choice passage with a couple of classic, hilarious, quotes.

    But in two hours of interviews, no customers found by this journalist seemed to take much offence. On the contrary, the majority of customers were either unaware of the symbol's meaning, or reacted much like Maureen Rucki: "That's that German thing, yeah?" One particularly sensitive customer, who preferred not to be named, added: "It's fucking bollocks. What should we be bowing down to Jews for? The war's over, get over it."
     
    , @TBA

    (in another unfortunate coincidence, the spokesman's phone number contains the year Hitler published Mein Kampf, in which he explains why he adopted the swastika as the Nazi symbol)
     
    If you look closely enough, everything is connected.
  12. El Dato says:
    @Rob McX

    (in another unfortunate coincidence, the spokesman’s phone number contains the year Hitler published Mein Kampf, in which he explains why he adopted the swastika as the Nazi symbol)

    This is more hard-core noticing than found in a Chinese checking for number 7.

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  13. David says:

    I have a 1943 copy of Mein Kampf that was my dad’s. No idea why he had it. It notes on the printer’s imprint that it’s one of 9.74 million copies to date, maybe one for every ten German speakers. I wonder if it’s true.

    The Loeb Classical Library editions published in the US at least up to 1963 had a frieze of swastikas on the covers where they now use greek key. It’s an indication that the cooties factor of Nazis has been ramped up since then.

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  14. I’ve always wondered about the potential of my postage stamp collection of Germany — which includes the Third Reich era — to get me into some kind of trouble someday.

    If they come for me in the night, I plan to talk about different postal adhesive gum types and experiments with gum performed by various postal systems throughout the years, and thus bore them to death.

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  15. TheBoom says:

    I live in Asia and Buddhists seem obsessed with swastikas especially in Taiwan. Of course, their use of swastika like designs has nothing to do with Nazis but is that a distinction we can tolerate? Is it time for antifa to start tearing down Buddhist termples? Should be entertaining because Asians have a distinct lack of white guilt.

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  16. EriK says:

    My father joined the Navy after he graduated high school in 1946, so he missed the wh0le war. He did bring home some German souvenirs, although I don’t recall any swastikas.

    His 1968 Wallace for President lawn sign is still in my mother’s basement (in Massachusetts) though. Do I get any props for that?

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  17. @Rob McX

    That article in The Guardian about the bank branch in Britain with the pre-war floor-mosaic swastikas has a choice passage with a couple of classic, hilarious, quotes.

    But in two hours of interviews, no customers found by this journalist seemed to take much offence. On the contrary, the majority of customers were either unaware of the symbol’s meaning, or reacted much like Maureen Rucki: “That’s that German thing, yeah?” One particularly sensitive customer, who preferred not to be named, added: “It’s fucking bollocks. What should we be bowing down to Jews for? The war’s over, get over it.”

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    • LOL: bomag, Anonym
    • Replies: @reiner Tor

    the majority of customers were either unaware of the symbol’s meaning
     
    Is there such a person in the UK? In Europe? In the US sphere of influence?
  18. dr kill says:

    Re: One particularly sensitive customer, Winner of the internet for today. It is indeed, all fucking bollocks. Well said.

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  19. Art Deco says:

    Some years ago, the NAACP did something out of character: it hired a retired Verizon executive as their staff director. The man’s idea was to re-orient the organization to promote the advancement of blacks through practical social work projects – i.e something more along the lines of the Urban League. He lasted about two years in the job and resigned, indicating that he was tired of bickering with the board and did not think he’d been hired to take orders from the president of the board. The president of the board was no-account Julian Bond, so it’s not surprising that a man of some accomplishment would resent his pretensions. After Mr. Gordon’s departure, they hired a thirtysomething mulatto professional agitator and announced they were redoubling their efforts toward their core mission and would be emphasizing…a federal ‘hate crimes’ bill.

    With regard to the ADL, Nathan Perlmutter retired 25 years ago and was replaced by Abraham Foxman, whose MO was engaging in obnoxious culture-war games which had little to do with insults and injuries done to Jews and much to do with social and cultural antagonisms commonly harbored by secular Jews.

    Neither organizations has any serious institutional mission. They’re engaged in wheel-spinning activities which feed the Id of the sort of bourgeois who form their base of contributors and sit on their boards.

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  20. reiner Tor says: • Website
    @PiltdownMan
    That article in The Guardian about the bank branch in Britain with the pre-war floor-mosaic swastikas has a choice passage with a couple of classic, hilarious, quotes.

    But in two hours of interviews, no customers found by this journalist seemed to take much offence. On the contrary, the majority of customers were either unaware of the symbol's meaning, or reacted much like Maureen Rucki: "That's that German thing, yeah?" One particularly sensitive customer, who preferred not to be named, added: "It's fucking bollocks. What should we be bowing down to Jews for? The war's over, get over it."
     

    the majority of customers were either unaware of the symbol’s meaning

    Is there such a person in the UK? In Europe? In the US sphere of influence?

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    • Replies: @Art Deco
    The customer who made the fuss in 2006 was East Indian.

    The swastikas were supposedly installed in 1927, when the Nazis were a German splinter party obscure to the rest of the world. Curiously, they're not conventional swastikas but the reversed variety that the Nazis made famous.

  21. bob sykes says:

    There are plenty of swastikas and real, paleo-Nazis in Ukraine. One of them would love to have the flag.

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  22. Luke Lea says:

    “The point is that we’re holding The Megaphone and you’re not.”

    A memorable line. Maybe it’s time the other side got a Maxim gun as well? Surely this is an opportune moment to start new media in the service of liberal nationalism?

    How about a new paper in DC to go against Bezos’ WP? Call it The Western World. OrWesternTimes

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  23. I have a scale model of Auschwitz in my living room.

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    • LOL: BB753
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    If it's HO scale, you could add it to your train set.
    , @Diversity Heretic
    But is it a working scale model?
    , @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    I have a gas-fired oven.
  24. bomag says:

    It is said that the winners write history; the “winners” here are content not just to write the history, they are making a lateral move into idol smashing and witch burning.

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  25. Art Deco says:
    @reiner Tor

    the majority of customers were either unaware of the symbol’s meaning
     
    Is there such a person in the UK? In Europe? In the US sphere of influence?

    The customer who made the fuss in 2006 was East Indian.

    The swastikas were supposedly installed in 1927, when the Nazis were a German splinter party obscure to the rest of the world. Curiously, they’re not conventional swastikas but the reversed variety that the Nazis made famous.

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    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    The same "reversed" swastika was used by a unit of the Polish army, the Finnish Air Force, and there are several other examples.
    , @PiltdownMan

    The customer who made the fuss in 2006 was East Indian.
     
    A Muslim East Indian guy. Who made a fuss about a Hindu Indian symbol.
    , @AnotherDad
    AD, the Nazi's swastika isn't reversed. It was far and away the more common form in the West, used by a lot of folks throughout Europe and the US even including lots of American Indians plains tribes, for whom it's also an indigenous symbol. (My guess is to the European eye--people reading languages left to right, it just looks cooler, more dynamic.)

    Both forms are extant in Asia. You may be more familiar with the Buddhism which Wikipedia tells me leans toward the counter-clockwise form. But in Hinduism the clockwise (Nazi style) form is more common, and the counter-clockwise form has a different Sanskrit name--sauwastika--and meaning:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauwastika

    The swastika's a neat looking symbol. Hopefully as history rolls on, the Nazi stench will fade from it and people who like it can use it again.
  26. reiner Tor says: • Website
    @Art Deco
    The customer who made the fuss in 2006 was East Indian.

    The swastikas were supposedly installed in 1927, when the Nazis were a German splinter party obscure to the rest of the world. Curiously, they're not conventional swastikas but the reversed variety that the Nazis made famous.

    The same “reversed” swastika was used by a unit of the Polish army, the Finnish Air Force, and there are several other examples.

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    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    Here are a few unusual examples from wooden homes in India and Nepal.

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d1/31/57/d1315784565cbc298ba2dfe030fac212.jpg

    http://www.loupiote.com/photos_l/15587431744-house-hindu-symbols-shatkona-star-david-swastika-india.jpg

    https://heifer12x12.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/juxtaposition.jpg
    , @Mr. Anon
    Along the same lines: the Bellamy Salute, which was apparently not uncommon in pre WWII America. It seems to have been changed to up-raised or side-raised hand after the Nazis came to power in Germany, before being discarded entirely sometime during WWII.

    Francis Bellamy was a National Socialist avant le lettre.

    , @Father O'Hara
    Sir ,you set my BogDar to pinging. In 1912 an enterprising fellow in Dublin opened the Swastika Laundry. It's trademark a very large and unapologetic swastika.They became noteworthy for their delivery vans desecra- oops,I mean decorated with the symbol.
    It was very successful. Up until the 1980s one could,er,spy their chimney,which bore a huge swastika,from quite a distance.
    I would dearly love to see that Jewish broad encounter the chimney.
    "Look at that chimney! My God! There's smoke pouring out!!"
  27. Patriot says:

    I’ve burned my history books and old Hollywood war movies that had images of swastikas. I’ve checked under the beds, in all the closets, and throughout the house, and everythig is clean and proper.

    But to my horror, I can still see that malicious, unlawful image in my mind when I close my eyes!!!!! Do any AmRen readers know of a way to remove it forever from my mind? Perhaps a government institution with the proper medical instruments? Lobotomy? Radiation? Implanted probes? DNA manipulation? We all must be cleansed, and I’m willing to do my part for the New Society.

    Citizen 571-23-3225

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  28. @reiner Tor
    The same "reversed" swastika was used by a unit of the Polish army, the Finnish Air Force, and there are several other examples.

    Here are a few unusual examples from wooden homes in India and Nepal.

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  29. @Art Deco
    The customer who made the fuss in 2006 was East Indian.

    The swastikas were supposedly installed in 1927, when the Nazis were a German splinter party obscure to the rest of the world. Curiously, they're not conventional swastikas but the reversed variety that the Nazis made famous.

    The customer who made the fuss in 2006 was East Indian.

    A Muslim East Indian guy. Who made a fuss about a Hindu Indian symbol.

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    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    Yeah, it's so ridiculous that the article didn't mention it. You shouldn't notice how weird it is that an East Indian Muslim gets so worked up about such Jewish and European concerns.
  30. reiner Tor says: • Website
    @PiltdownMan

    The customer who made the fuss in 2006 was East Indian.
     
    A Muslim East Indian guy. Who made a fuss about a Hindu Indian symbol.

    Yeah, it’s so ridiculous that the article didn’t mention it. You shouldn’t notice how weird it is that an East Indian Muslim gets so worked up about such Jewish and European concerns.

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    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Britain has a vernacular culture suffused with social anxiety, where people are bred to not make a fuss and not speak plainly bar in newspaper columns or in the stands at soccer stadiums. If someone does, they're probably not sober. There are some recent exceptions, and the man is exercising his prerogative to be a nuisance.
  31. Claude says:

    I was cleaning out the attic of a dead relative recently and found a Nazi armband. Instantly I found myself triggered…with awe at how alpha my relative must have been to take that war trophy off a dead Nazi.

    Helped remind me what a dead end all these SJWs are trying to herd people down.

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  32. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    What if granddad was in the US Army’s 45th Infantry Division prior to WW2? Do we have to throw away his uniform?

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  33. While the details of this crime remain unclear…

    There’s no parody like self-parody.

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  34. Speaking of the Megaphone, isn’t it a bit priceless that the media’s frantic attempts to take down Trump may well render him the most talked about personage in his own time in all of human history?

    Really, who else compares? Who else would seem to have had over half the front page news items about him every single day of the year? Not any President I can think of.

    I’m sure a study would back up my observation.

    Who can ignore a Trump tweet in this environment?

    The media had the Megaphone, but who has it now?

    That run of loud explosions you hear is the media attacks backfiring.

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  35. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Soooo—does that mean if I have a paperback copy of “Mein Kampf” in my bookshelf I will have to burn it (if you’ll pardon the unintended irony in the use of the word “burn”)?

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  36. @The Anti-Gnostic
    I have a scale model of Auschwitz in my living room.

    If it’s HO scale, you could add it to your train set.

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  37. Curle says:

    My dad once flew a state of Tennessee flag off his porch deck facing a canal and police paid a visit responding to a complaint that someone was displaying a Nazi flag. True story. Here’s the TN flag:

    https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&site=&source=hp&ei=llliWZSLFYrYjwPP44mABA&q=tennessee+flag&oq=tennessee+flag&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.3..0l5.4095.10057.0.11645.15.15.0.9.9.0.220.1890.2j12j1.15.0….0…1.1.64.mobile-gws-hp..0.15.1012.3..41j0i131k1.Wo53TuGHkz4

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    • Replies: @Rob McX
    AA law enforcement in action. It wouldn't be illegal even if it were a Nazi flag, assuming your father is in the US.
    , @Autochthon
    I wouldn't have even answered the door. What were they going to do, return with warrant, having convinced a judge of their intent to recover a ... flag? Judges don't issue warrants to seize flags of any kind...yet.
  38. TBA says:
    @Rob McX

    (in another unfortunate coincidence, the spokesman’s phone number contains the year Hitler published Mein Kampf, in which he explains why he adopted the swastika as the Nazi symbol)

    If you look closely enough, everything is connected.

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  39. Rob McX says:
    @Curle
    My dad once flew a state of Tennessee flag off his porch deck facing a canal and police paid a visit responding to a complaint that someone was displaying a Nazi flag. True story. Here's the TN flag:







    https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&site=&source=hp&ei=llliWZSLFYrYjwPP44mABA&q=tennessee+flag&oq=tennessee+flag&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.3..0l5.4095.10057.0.11645.15.15.0.9.9.0.220.1890.2j12j1.15.0....0...1.1.64.mobile-gws-hp..0.15.1012.3..41j0i131k1.Wo53TuGHkz4

    AA law enforcement in action. It wouldn’t be illegal even if it were a Nazi flag, assuming your father is in the US.

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  40. @jim jones
    I have no Nazi objects around my house, I assume I am therefore culturally spotless.

    There are Swatstickers on an old building at 3rd and chestnut that need to be defaced. Lets allow the ADL to tell us how to live our lives out of fear of being branded the pejorative du marche

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  41. syonredux says:
    @reiner Tor
    I have some books which contain pictures of swastikas. Like, swastikas on flags. Shall I burn those books?

    I have some books which contain pictures of swastikas. Like, swastikas on flags. Shall I burn those books?

    Well, maybe if the books were written by Kipling….

    http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/facts_swastik.htm

    https://www.google.com/search?q=rudyard+kipling+swastika&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRsZTp3fzUAhVH2WMKHfa2DkYQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=638

    I mean, Kipling+Swastika….Talk about doubleplusungood……

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  42. syonredux says:

    I brought the flag back to my apartment, unfolded it, spread it out on a table. It was really in Hitler’s house. The Hitler. He probably heiled it in the morning over a bowl of muesli before a long day at the office of orchestrating mass genocide.

    The swastika hummed with violence, like something cursed, or alive.

    It’s charged with all of Hitler’s evil Vril-energy! Sleep near it, and you will have visions of Ultima Thule…..

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    The growing tendency for the left-wing fascists (a weird new term, yet accurate) ia their belief in magical or mystical powers and concepts – emotional struggle, white privilege, African and Amerindian animism and hoodoo treated as a serious religion, a pretense that eunuchs are women and that buggery can beget children, etc.

    Related is their attribution of moral agency or symbolism to inanimate objects: firearms, nooses, flags; even written or spoken words and symbols are feared and hated not for any idea they contain, but innately, as with the slang term for Negro even Steve won't publish.

    One of my the most preposterous manifestations of this craze is the idea that any object longer than it is wide must be a symbol of tyrannical patriarchy (I am paraphrasing, of all people, sodomite Peter Thiel!).

    It fits the decline of intelligence, reason, and science all around us. Devolution, as it were.
    , @Olorin
    Or in her case, visions of the type of man she can't help losing control/getting "unnerved" merely thinking about.

    Gentlemen, some fashion help please. Is muesli now also Hitlerian? This National Propaganda Radio director's effusions suggest as much.

    http://www.npr.org/people/15626066/jessica-goldstein

    Is it Hitlerian if we, say, cook it and add bacon grease instead of the usual heavy cream or pastured butter?

    How about if we have meat on the side?

    How about oatmeal in general? Is that Hitlerian? Do you have to, like, add milk and hazelnuts before it crosses over? Or is it the flax and dried berries? Howbout if you make it with rolled rye?


    "The swastika hummed with violence."
     
    Though I have to chuckle to reflect that there are million-dollar Chevy Chase houses whose denizens repair to the attic to feel thrilled by 1930s National Socialism.

    But here's my bigger question on behalf of those of us who embrace celestial navigation.

    https://planetruthblog.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/swastikanorth-star.jpg

    How about when stellar precession renders Thule's axis no longer the Bear marching around the Polaris?

    Is Polaris also racist or anti-Semitic or whatever?

    And if Polaris is racist/anti-Semitic does that mean that Alpha Draconis, Vega, and Deneb are also racist/anti-Semitic, for having been the pole stars before?

    I'm reasonably sure that when those other pole stars were circled by other constellations, other armies marched under representations of them.

    Or is the Bear and Polaris just racist/anti-Semitic coz Hitler touched it and gave it Nazi cooties?

  43. J1234 says:

    … I figure it’s about time to do something with that swastika in the attic.

    Sell it. Racism makes old stuff worth more. My dad’s friend had a Nambu pistol that he’d taken off a dead Jap (I presume.) Those pistols don’t bring much money, despite their historical significance. Verified Walther P-38′s and Luger P-08′s bring a lot more. Yes, the Nambu is ugly and a poorly made weapon, but they should really be worth more than the $400 that most people are willing to give.

    The problem? We don’t remember the Japs as being as racist as the Nazis (even though they were) so the taboo factor is lower. I don’t now what wartime Rising Sun flags bring, but they are visually impressive, so they may bring as much as swastika flags. (I don’t know what they bring, either.)

    Hollywood has helped create a fascination with, and market for, Nazi paraphernalia. Japanese stuff, not so much. Same is true of the Civil War. A friend of mine collected and sold military photos from the 1800′s. He said a verified photo of a Confederate soldier holding a gun will get you ten times what a picture of a Union soldier will.

    Of course, we’ve all heard that Confederate money is worthless, and it usually was, but even it seems to be increasing in value. (Not fake Confederate money, though, as in this article. But you never know…that might become valuable, too.)

    https://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/The-Home-Forum/2011/0922/Confederate-bill-makes-woman-rich!-for-an-hour

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  44. anonymous says: • Website • Disclaimer

    TRIGGER WARNING!!! THIS IMAGE IS NOT SAFE!!!! The Ruth & Raymond G. Perelman Building at the Philadelphia Museum of Art has some swastikas on the fabulous Art Deco doors! TRIGGER WARNING!!! THIS IMAGE IS NOT SAFE!!!! But I guess it’s OK because ((((Perelman))))?

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  45. JVO says:

    No picture of the offending flag in her article makes me think she made it all up. The Berghof, really?
    Also, the WW2 museum in New Orleans is highly overrated

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  46. At some point someone will come across the “Swastika Holding Co.” in the Great Gatsby

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  47. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    IIRC There was a controversy about the swastika cover of Wm. Shirer’s “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” in the sixties. Don’t know if it’s true or not (or still true) but the accepted wisdom in publishing was Nazi/Swastika covers sold/sell more books.

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  48. @Curle
    My dad once flew a state of Tennessee flag off his porch deck facing a canal and police paid a visit responding to a complaint that someone was displaying a Nazi flag. True story. Here's the TN flag:







    https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&site=&source=hp&ei=llliWZSLFYrYjwPP44mABA&q=tennessee+flag&oq=tennessee+flag&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.3..0l5.4095.10057.0.11645.15.15.0.9.9.0.220.1890.2j12j1.15.0....0...1.1.64.mobile-gws-hp..0.15.1012.3..41j0i131k1.Wo53TuGHkz4

    I wouldn’t have even answered the door. What were they going to do, return with warrant, having convinced a judge of their intent to recover a … flag? Judges don’t issue warrants to seize flags of any kind…yet.

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  49. @syonredux

    I brought the flag back to my apartment, unfolded it, spread it out on a table. It was really in Hitler’s house. The Hitler. He probably heiled it in the morning over a bowl of muesli before a long day at the office of orchestrating mass genocide.

    The swastika hummed with violence, like something cursed, or alive.
     
    It's charged with all of Hitler's evil Vril-energy! Sleep near it, and you will have visions of Ultima Thule.....

    The growing tendency for the left-wing fascists (a weird new term, yet accurate) ia their belief in magical or mystical powers and concepts – emotional struggle, white privilege, African and Amerindian animism and hoodoo treated as a serious religion, a pretense that eunuchs are women and that buggery can beget children, etc.

    Related is their attribution of moral agency or symbolism to inanimate objects: firearms, nooses, flags; even written or spoken words and symbols are feared and hated not for any idea they contain, but innately, as with the slang term for Negro even Steve won’t publish.

    One of my the most preposterous manifestations of this craze is the idea that any object longer than it is wide must be a symbol of tyrannical patriarchy (I am paraphrasing, of all people, sodomite Peter Thiel!).

    It fits the decline of intelligence, reason, and science all around us. Devolution, as it were.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    It's not an accurate phrase in the least. See https://www.unz.com/plee/if-you-want-to-punch-a-real-fascist-go-to-india/#comment-1744167 .

    "Left-wing thugs" is an accurate phrase, but hardly either weird or new.
  50. Kylie says:

    “My grandpa took the flag. A souvenir.”

    Cultural appropriation. It’s okay when some do it.

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  51. Paranoia. Galloping. Jews are paranoid people who always worry that powerful gentiles are conspiring against them. They’re constantly looking for evidence of such conspiracies, and will will seize on any sign of unfriendliness (or even indifference) from such people as proof positive of their fears. It would be funny if the social consequences weren’t so toxic.

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    Jews are paranoid because they are always plotting against the goyim. So they think the goyim are plotting against Jews.

    New flash. A Jewish grant hustling non profit charitable group in Los Angeles is holding support sessions for
    1 holocaust survivors
    2 second generation (children) of holocaust survivors.
    3 third generation (grandchildren) of holocaust survivors.

    I think they are doing children and grandchildren so as to extort more compensation from Europe. and the rest of the world. After all, by 2050 the very last holocaust survivor will die at 105.

    Another reason Jews are paranoid is because a certain number of Jews make a living by being professional Jews. Foxman is a perfect example. Preach progroms, Auschwitz, and find anti semitism everywhere and rake in millions.
    , @donut
    Sort of like Negros .
  52. My favorite building in Chicago is the old Shriners Temple; there, the walls have tiny swastikas inlaid in stone!

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  53. anonymous says: • Website • Disclaimer

    Steve, there’s some
    swastikas on streetlights
    in Glendale you can visit. Also of note there are swastikas in the metal work on the 1930-6 U.S. Department of Agriculture building right across 14th street fom the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington D.C. Was FDR actually a Nazi? He did redline after all.

    The Auxiliary Thought Police De-Swastikafication Bureau will be very busy.

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  54. Mr. Anon says:
    @reiner Tor
    The same "reversed" swastika was used by a unit of the Polish army, the Finnish Air Force, and there are several other examples.

    Along the same lines: the Bellamy Salute, which was apparently not uncommon in pre WWII America. It seems to have been changed to up-raised or side-raised hand after the Nazis came to power in Germany, before being discarded entirely sometime during WWII.

    Francis Bellamy was a National Socialist avant le lettre.

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    Various salutes were not uncommon before WWII-the Nazis certainly did not have a monopoly .
    For instance the Olympic movement had it's own salute which for some reason seems to have fallen out of favour .
    I guess to the people of the time such salutes were not that different to special or secret handshakes which , I'm told ,are still around .
  55. Mr. Anon says:

    I brought the flag back to my apartment, unfolded it, spread it out on a table. It was really in Hitler’s house. The Hitler. He probably heiled it in the morning over a bowl of muesli before a long day at the office of orchestrating mass genocide.

    There you have it: muesli is anti-semitic.

    Of course, muesli is Swiss, not German, but – hey – same difference, right?

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  56. cthulhu says:

    The red edges are ragged; this circle, four feet across, cut from a giant banner and signed by the men in my grandfather’s United States Army unit, the 460th Antiaircraft Artillery Automatic Weapons Battalion. They made it to the Berghof, Hitler’s retreat in the Bavarian Alps, in the spring of 1945. The war was over when they got there. My grandpa took the flag. A souvenir.

    In a just world, something like that would be venerated as a powerful symbol of Good triumphing over Evil. Has Ms. Goldstein no imagination to conjure what those soldiers must have been thinking and feeling? No compassion for the sacrifices they, their compatriots, their families made, including those who were struck down before the end? No reverence for their accomplishments? What a sad and pathetic person she must be.

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  57. Mr. Anon says:

    I once thought there were a few things on which Americans all could agree, and that “Nazis are bad” was among them.

    What happend, Ms. Goldstein? A lot of people and institutions (the New York Times included) started pushing the view – upon which we were all supposed to agree – that “whites are bad”. Some whites reacted to that by deciding that your cultural taboos aren’t so important either.

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  58. Thomas says:

    It seems like a good many people today really regret they didn’t live to fight Nazis, Confederates, or other designated historic devils. They have to make do with symbolic substitutes of calling people they don’t like “Nazis” and desecrating or destroying whatever vestigial symbols or memorials exist of their would-be enemies. Basically, we have an army of modern day Don Quixotes.

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    • Agree: Thea
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Disagree that there's any regret involved, or that history is a motivator rather than a catalyst. It's generically aggressive people pissing on someone else's lawn.
    , @Mr. Anon

    It seems like a good many people today really regret they didn’t live to fight Nazis, Confederates, or other designated historic devils.
     
    I agree. Their enthusiasm for fighting long since dead foes is itself a kind of LARPing. Of course, many if not most of the people who actually did live in those times and fight those enemies did so, essentially, because they were told to do so.
    , @ThreeCranes
    Your's is a very good comment among many others. But I doubt that many SJWs would have the stomach to really live at a time when they could fight live Nazis. I think they're perfectly happy fighting symbols rather than the real thing.

    SJWs never look at life as an all or nothing struggle. They assume that the Universe is fundamentally peaceful and that harmony and freedom from strife are the default conditions--a frictionless universe. When reality rears its ugly head they respond with murderous rage and try to obliterate the thing that is disturbing their pleasant fantasy.
    , @Anonymous
    I don't think that's it. Notice the disproportionate interest in reading the sins of the bad side into their enemies than their own virtues into the victors (who would of course be Nazis by their standards).

    They cover themselves in past glories to justify to others what they do. At the parody end of the scale you've got Muslim supremacists invoking past anti-fascist anti-anti-Semitic street battles to justify crushing "Islamophobes".

    Since neoliberalism has "won" and been a pretty good ally, the narrative of the utopian revolutionary isn't -- except to the most blockheaded anarchists and LARPing communists -- as compelling as an ongoing game of Whack-a-Nazi and Whack-a-Confederate.

  59. Art Deco says:
    @reiner Tor
    Yeah, it's so ridiculous that the article didn't mention it. You shouldn't notice how weird it is that an East Indian Muslim gets so worked up about such Jewish and European concerns.

    Britain has a vernacular culture suffused with social anxiety, where people are bred to not make a fuss and not speak plainly bar in newspaper columns or in the stands at soccer stadiums. If someone does, they’re probably not sober. There are some recent exceptions, and the man is exercising his prerogative to be a nuisance.

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  60. Art Deco says:
    @Thomas
    It seems like a good many people today really regret they didn't live to fight Nazis, Confederates, or other designated historic devils. They have to make do with symbolic substitutes of calling people they don't like "Nazis" and desecrating or destroying whatever vestigial symbols or memorials exist of their would-be enemies. Basically, we have an army of modern day Don Quixotes.

    Disagree that there’s any regret involved, or that history is a motivator rather than a catalyst. It’s generically aggressive people pissing on someone else’s lawn.

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  61. Yeah. I’m in the antique trade and the swatiska was a widely used design element prior to WW2. Google Navajo whirling logs to see what I mean. I grew up in a Westchester County town that has a pre-WW2 brick apartment building with a swastika on one of the sides. In early 20th century Chicago there was a jewelry manufacturer called “The Swastika Shop” and their symbol was (natch) the swastika.

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  62. Mr. Anon says:
    @Thomas
    It seems like a good many people today really regret they didn't live to fight Nazis, Confederates, or other designated historic devils. They have to make do with symbolic substitutes of calling people they don't like "Nazis" and desecrating or destroying whatever vestigial symbols or memorials exist of their would-be enemies. Basically, we have an army of modern day Don Quixotes.

    It seems like a good many people today really regret they didn’t live to fight Nazis, Confederates, or other designated historic devils.

    I agree. Their enthusiasm for fighting long since dead foes is itself a kind of LARPing. Of course, many if not most of the people who actually did live in those times and fight those enemies did so, essentially, because they were told to do so.

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  63. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    bored identity reccomends usuall chutzpah approach as a resolutiion to the

    Dear Mrs, Goldstein,

    Being in possesion of a Red, Black and White Vintage Piece of Cloth with Ubermensching Powers was always one of the bigest housekeeping nightmares for any American W

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  64. @Art Deco
    The customer who made the fuss in 2006 was East Indian.

    The swastikas were supposedly installed in 1927, when the Nazis were a German splinter party obscure to the rest of the world. Curiously, they're not conventional swastikas but the reversed variety that the Nazis made famous.

    AD, the Nazi’s swastika isn’t reversed. It was far and away the more common form in the West, used by a lot of folks throughout Europe and the US even including lots of American Indians plains tribes, for whom it’s also an indigenous symbol. (My guess is to the European eye–people reading languages left to right, it just looks cooler, more dynamic.)

    Both forms are extant in Asia. You may be more familiar with the Buddhism which Wikipedia tells me leans toward the counter-clockwise form. But in Hinduism the clockwise (Nazi style) form is more common, and the counter-clockwise form has a different Sanskrit name–sauwastika–and meaning:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauwastika

    The swastika’s a neat looking symbol. Hopefully as history rolls on, the Nazi stench will fade from it and people who like it can use it again.

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  65. So apparently this quarter-wit doesn’t understand the concept of a trophy.

    Bringing home a conch shell from the beach = souvenir

    Bringing home a symbol of a defeated enemy = trophy

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    Thanks -- trophy is the word that I couldn't think of.
  66. Olorin says:
    @syonredux

    I brought the flag back to my apartment, unfolded it, spread it out on a table. It was really in Hitler’s house. The Hitler. He probably heiled it in the morning over a bowl of muesli before a long day at the office of orchestrating mass genocide.

    The swastika hummed with violence, like something cursed, or alive.
     
    It's charged with all of Hitler's evil Vril-energy! Sleep near it, and you will have visions of Ultima Thule.....

    Or in her case, visions of the type of man she can’t help losing control/getting “unnerved” merely thinking about.

    Gentlemen, some fashion help please. Is muesli now also Hitlerian? This National Propaganda Radio director’s effusions suggest as much.

    http://www.npr.org/people/15626066/jessica-goldstein

    Is it Hitlerian if we, say, cook it and add bacon grease instead of the usual heavy cream or pastured butter?

    How about if we have meat on the side?

    How about oatmeal in general? Is that Hitlerian? Do you have to, like, add milk and hazelnuts before it crosses over? Or is it the flax and dried berries? Howbout if you make it with rolled rye?

    “The swastika hummed with violence.”

    Though I have to chuckle to reflect that there are million-dollar Chevy Chase houses whose denizens repair to the attic to feel thrilled by 1930s National Socialism.

    But here’s my bigger question on behalf of those of us who embrace celestial navigation.

    How about when stellar precession renders Thule’s axis no longer the Bear marching around the Polaris?

    Is Polaris also racist or anti-Semitic or whatever?

    And if Polaris is racist/anti-Semitic does that mean that Alpha Draconis, Vega, and Deneb are also racist/anti-Semitic, for having been the pole stars before?

    I’m reasonably sure that when those other pole stars were circled by other constellations, other armies marched under representations of them.

    Or is the Bear and Polaris just racist/anti-Semitic coz Hitler touched it and gave it Nazi cooties?

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  67. @The Anti-Gnostic
    I have a scale model of Auschwitz in my living room.

    I have a gas-fired oven.

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    I am holding several Jews captive in my garage. They cut the grass change the oil ,keep things tidy.
    Note:I am kidding!
  68. @Sparkling Wiggle
    So apparently this quarter-wit doesn't understand the concept of a trophy.

    Bringing home a conch shell from the beach = souvenir

    Bringing home a symbol of a defeated enemy = trophy

    Thanks — trophy is the word that I couldn’t think of.

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  69. There may be a overlooked factor in Ms. Goldstein’s article. It’s the phenomenon of bragging by complaining. She complains about her angst in having Nazi memorabilia polluting her attic, but she is also bragging that her grandfather fought in combat in WWII. But she isn’t classified as a braggart because she is not bragging but complaining.

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  70. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    A best kept secret in L.A., cuisine, for a very short time, was the Wolfslair Biergarten.

    A very well appointed, German-themed restaurant with the best authentic German dishes, craft beers served in chilled silver steins, and the pretzels and deserts were just awesome! Everything on the menu was outstanding authentic German cuisine. They employed extremely good-looking waitresses in lederhosen shorties, featuring the most amazing butts ever. These were not your average-looking waitresses.

    Problem was apparently a few jewish news reporters took exception to the name of the restaurant, since it appeared to be the english translation of Hitler’s bunker. Most other people didn’t seem to notice the nomenclature of the restaurant, or didn’t care. Local jewish news reporters noticed, however. I think it was only open for less than a year, and quietly closed without a whimper. Very strange.

    I’d be interested in knowing what happened. It was a themed restaurant, with costumed waitresses, quality german cuisine, and apparently successful. Charlie Sheen dropped in fairly regularly. That restaurant was not cheap to pull together. It was there… and then it wasn’t, within a year? Nobody explained, it just… stopped being.

    Plot twist: the owner was jewish!

    https://www.yelp.com/biz/wolfslair-biergarten-los-angeles

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/top-chef-jamie-lauren-restaurant-hollywood-hitler-284956

    https://la.eater.com/2012/10/2/6539703/smokeyard-barbecue-to-succeed-wolfslair-in-hollywood

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  71. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Autochthon
    The growing tendency for the left-wing fascists (a weird new term, yet accurate) ia their belief in magical or mystical powers and concepts – emotional struggle, white privilege, African and Amerindian animism and hoodoo treated as a serious religion, a pretense that eunuchs are women and that buggery can beget children, etc.

    Related is their attribution of moral agency or symbolism to inanimate objects: firearms, nooses, flags; even written or spoken words and symbols are feared and hated not for any idea they contain, but innately, as with the slang term for Negro even Steve won't publish.

    One of my the most preposterous manifestations of this craze is the idea that any object longer than it is wide must be a symbol of tyrannical patriarchy (I am paraphrasing, of all people, sodomite Peter Thiel!).

    It fits the decline of intelligence, reason, and science all around us. Devolution, as it were.

    It’s not an accurate phrase in the least. See https://www.unz.com/plee/if-you-want-to-punch-a-real-fascist-go-to-india/#comment-1744167 .

    “Left-wing thugs” is an accurate phrase, but hardly either weird or new.

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    I disagree. Facsists seek totalitarian control by an unholy union of the state and (corporate) capital to control all aspects of society centrally. The modern variety have imposed this vision onto a (faux) communist, egalitarian system of bread and circuses (just enough to ensure the campesinos don't revolt against their kakistocratic lords, but no more, and always ensuring no middle class can develop or thrive).

    It's a Hell of a contradictory, Frankenstienien monstosity (hence its inherent insustainability, especially as ecologically catastrophic overpopulation and dysgenic reproduction are fundamental tenets!), but there it is....
  72. Achilles says:

    I’ve recently been unnerved to discover…

    The swastika hummed with violence, like something cursed, or alive…

    Ms. Kiser asked me, “Did you feel weird walking around with a Nazi flag in your purse?” I admitted that I did…

    Amid my relief that the swastika was no longer haunting my apartment…

    HBD mavens know that personality and other psychological traits are to a substantial degree heritable, and so one isn’t surprised to notice differences in such traits among various ethnic groups.

    Clearly, Jews as a population group are skewed in the direction of a greater degree of neuroticism and high-strung dispositions.

    It certainly is tiresome and grating that so much of the output of the mainstream media consists of Jews venting their psychological obsessions.

    One wonders how much of the tension between Jews and white gentiles in America is simply the result of group personality differences.

    It seems somewhat like introducing chihuahuas into a group of labrador retrievers playing in a dog park. The level of nervousness on the part of all dogs rises.

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  73. Rob McX says:

    I think this is the best swastika story ever. In the late 1930s larch trees were planted in a German pine forest in a swastika shape. They would become briefly visible twice a year as the leaves changed.

    For a few weeks every year in the autumn and in the spring, the colour of the larch leaves would change, contrasting with the deep green of the pine forest. The short duration of the effect, combined with the fact that the image could only be discerned from the air and the relative scarcity of privately owned airplanes in the area, meant that the swastika went largely unnoticed after the fall of the Nazi Party. During the subsequent Communist period, Soviet authorities reportedly knew of its existence but made no effort to remove it.

    But the larches were doomed:

    However, in 1992, the reunified German government ordered aerial surveys of all state-owned land. The photographs were examined by forestry students, who immediately noticed the design.[...]

    The Brandenburg state authorities, concerned about damage to the region’s image and the possibility that the area would become a pilgrimage site for Nazi supporters, attempted to destroy the design by removing 43 of the 100 larch trees in 1995. However, the figure remained discernible with the remaining 57 trees as well as some trees which had regrown, and in 2000 German tabloids published further aerial photographs showing the prominence of the swastika. By this time, ownership of around half the land on which the trees sat had been sold into private hands, but permission was gained to fell a further 25 trees on the government-owned area on December 1, 2000, and the image was largely obscured.

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  74. Dear Mrs, Goldstein,
    bored identity feels your four-millennia-elongated pain.

    Being in possession of a Red, Black and White Vintage Piece of Cloth with Mysterious Ubermensching Powers was for almost hundred years the biggest housekeeping nightmare to any Real American Woman who adjudicates that Cleanliness is next to Godliness*.

    (* Numbers 19)

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  75. El Dato says:
    @George
    What to do about that Japanese skull in the attic?

    http://time.com/3880997/young-woman-with-jap-skull-portrait-of-a-grisly-wwii-memento/

    Dark & Edgy drumming?

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  76. @Anon
    It's not an accurate phrase in the least. See https://www.unz.com/plee/if-you-want-to-punch-a-real-fascist-go-to-india/#comment-1744167 .

    "Left-wing thugs" is an accurate phrase, but hardly either weird or new.

    I disagree. Facsists seek totalitarian control by an unholy union of the state and (corporate) capital to control all aspects of society centrally. The modern variety have imposed this vision onto a (faux) communist, egalitarian system of bread and circuses (just enough to ensure the campesinos don’t revolt against their kakistocratic lords, but no more, and always ensuring no middle class can develop or thrive).

    It’s a Hell of a contradictory, Frankenstienien monstosity (hence its inherent insustainability, especially as ecologically catastrophic overpopulation and dysgenic reproduction are fundamental tenets!), but there it is….

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  77. After all , they are the only people who died in concentration camps. In fact they are the only people who died EVER. Holodomor….what’s a few million dead Lithuanians? They shouldn’t even have had hard feelings towards the Jews running the communist party that caused the deaths. See they don’t have to take responsibility. They have a golden ticket….because Jewish.

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  78. @Thomas
    It seems like a good many people today really regret they didn't live to fight Nazis, Confederates, or other designated historic devils. They have to make do with symbolic substitutes of calling people they don't like "Nazis" and desecrating or destroying whatever vestigial symbols or memorials exist of their would-be enemies. Basically, we have an army of modern day Don Quixotes.

    Your’s is a very good comment among many others. But I doubt that many SJWs would have the stomach to really live at a time when they could fight live Nazis. I think they’re perfectly happy fighting symbols rather than the real thing.

    SJWs never look at life as an all or nothing struggle. They assume that the Universe is fundamentally peaceful and that harmony and freedom from strife are the default conditions–a frictionless universe. When reality rears its ugly head they respond with murderous rage and try to obliterate the thing that is disturbing their pleasant fantasy.

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    But I doubt that many SJWs would have the stomach to really live at a time when they could fight live Nazis. I think they’re perfectly happy fighting symbols rather than the real thing.
     
    I agree and I don't think that they'd actually haven been interested in fighting personally either in the past or today, any more than Don Quixote was actually a knight rather than living out a romantic fantasy. Ironically, of course, the men who actually defeated both the Confederacy and Nazi Germany would today be regarded as Nazis themselves if modern-day SJWs encountered them.

    SJWs never look at life as an all or nothing struggle. They assume that the Universe is fundamentally peaceful and that harmony and freedom from strife are the default conditions–a frictionless universe. When reality rears its ugly head they respond with murderous rage and try to obliterate the thing that is disturbing their pleasant fantasy.
     
    I don't think they really believe that. The ideal serves more as a motivation and justification for aggression (by letting them project their own hateful and aggressive impulses on to their chosen enemies) than it is anything most SJWs would actually want (of course, with most SJWs, the risk is increasingly that the revolution is going to deem you the next oppressor, it's no accident that the most aggressive and violent lefties are Jeremy Christian-type white males).
    , @Alec Leamas

    But I doubt that many SJWs would have the stomach to really live at a time when they could fight live Nazis. I think they’re perfectly happy fighting symbols rather than the real thing.
     
    They seem to have been reared on vidya games and power rangers fantasies, so I don't think their account of NAZIs or Confederates contemplates the very real martial abilities of both groups and the substantial possibility that either could have prevailed. They're just conceived of as the "Big Boss" at the end of the game that always and eventually gets defeated. NAZIs and Confederates get beaten because their opponents' cause is just, not because of attrition, insufficient industrial supply, or fighting a war on two fronts.

    If SJWs wanted to fight real NAZIs - or at least real-life brigands who wear NAZI iconography openly and unironically - they could focus their attentions on the 1% OMC communities who wear cuts with NAZI stuff on them. But they won't, because those NAZIs would quickly beat them to death rather than presenting themselves as punching bags obeying police lines. So they largely just avoid them.
  79. Daniel H says:

    What would today’s SJWs make of the old Hells Angels, who loved to wear Nazi Regalia, just to piss people off?

    Are there any old-time Hells Angels left? Have they all been converged.

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    In the early 1970s, I lived three blocks from the NYC Hells Angels clubhouse on E Third Street. That was when the Angels were dirty and long haired and wore denim vests festooned with patches, including Nazi insignia. Recently I was in NYC and strolled by the clubhouse. The Angels I saw were shaven headed, clean and buff, and wore clean jeans and leather vests with only the traditional patch and rockers on the back. Now that they're big in organized crime they're not so "in your face."
  80. TheJester says:

    Does this mean the Confederate battle flag is okay again … since the SJWs seem to have trouble focusing on anything lasting longer than a microaggression and they are now apparently distracted with swastikas and more contemporary racist stuff hidden in the country’s attics?

    Just returned from a weekend in the Shenandoah Valley. Enriching to see defiant Americans still proudly flying the Confederate battle flag from their homes … and continuing to display Confederate memorabilia in restaurants and pubs that have celebrated the Southern tradition for too many decades to count.

    Seriously, looking at the big picture and I’m beginning to feel that pogroms are back in style again … and this time it’s ironically the Jews organizing them.

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  81. I am guilty! There on my bookshelf is a copy of “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” with a swastika boldly printed on the dust jacket. I will now build a bonfire and dispose of it.

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    • Replies: @AM

    There on my bookshelf is a copy of “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” with a swastika boldly printed on the dust jacket. I will now build a bonfire and dispose of it.
     
    I own red and white construction paper, glue, scissors, and black markers. All of those could be used make a swastika and/or Nazi. To better the world, I will add them to your bonfire. You can never be too careful.
  82. Curiously, there was guy making comments on youtube concerning the lack of Nazi Swastikas on the tail of some American made Me-262 jet aircraft (Other commenters pointed out the Me-262 was residing in Germany and hence had to follow the laws Der Fatherland.) so the objectification of the swastika as a historical political symbol isn’t limited to Ms. Goldstein.

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  83. AM says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    I am guilty! There on my bookshelf is a copy of "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" with a swastika boldly printed on the dust jacket. I will now build a bonfire and dispose of it.

    There on my bookshelf is a copy of “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” with a swastika boldly printed on the dust jacket. I will now build a bonfire and dispose of it.

    I own red and white construction paper, glue, scissors, and black markers. All of those could be used make a swastika and/or Nazi. To better the world, I will add them to your bonfire. You can never be too careful.

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  84. @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    I have a gas-fired oven.

    I am holding several Jews captive in my garage. They cut the grass change the oil ,keep things tidy.
    Note:I am kidding!

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  85. @reiner Tor
    The same "reversed" swastika was used by a unit of the Polish army, the Finnish Air Force, and there are several other examples.

    Sir ,you set my BogDar to pinging. In 1912 an enterprising fellow in Dublin opened the Swastika Laundry. It’s trademark a very large and unapologetic swastika.They became noteworthy for their delivery vans desecra- oops,I mean decorated with the symbol.
    It was very successful. Up until the 1980s one could,er,spy their chimney,which bore a huge swastika,from quite a distance.
    I would dearly love to see that Jewish broad encounter the chimney.
    “Look at that chimney! My God! There’s smoke pouring out!!”

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  86. @El Dato
    What is this?

    Doesn't everyone have a swastika in the attic?

    As artifacts go, the swastika presents some interesting challenges. Can’t really hang it in the house. “No, it’s O.K.!” I imagine my mom assuring guests. “It’s a stolen Nazi flag.”

    I’m not sure which new swastika flicked some switch in me. But after the election I decided, with conviction so intense it was almost alarming, our flag needs to be seen.
     
    This is something out of Father Ted, I am sure?

    https://youtu.be/oFDW2E9HU6M?t=92

    I brought the flag back to my apartment, unfolded it, spread it out on a table. It was really in Hitler’s house. The Hitler. He probably heiled it in the morning over a bowl of muesli before a long day at the office of orchestrating mass genocide.

    The swastika hummed with violence, like something cursed, or alive.
     
    What?

    I’d spent much of the morning in a new exhibition, “State of Deception: The Power of Nazi Propaganda.” It opened the same day that President Trump issued an executive order barring Syrian refugees and immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States. I was stunned by the installation’s unplanned prescience. The language of religious fear mongering has changed little since the 1930s. It felt as if the present was plagiarizing the past.
     
    What??

    Doesn’t everyone have a swastika in the attic?

    There is a Swastika in America’s attic:

    http://o.canada.com/news/swastika-ontario-is-a-real-place-in-canada

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  87. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Thomas
    It seems like a good many people today really regret they didn't live to fight Nazis, Confederates, or other designated historic devils. They have to make do with symbolic substitutes of calling people they don't like "Nazis" and desecrating or destroying whatever vestigial symbols or memorials exist of their would-be enemies. Basically, we have an army of modern day Don Quixotes.

    I don’t think that’s it. Notice the disproportionate interest in reading the sins of the bad side into their enemies than their own virtues into the victors (who would of course be Nazis by their standards).

    They cover themselves in past glories to justify to others what they do. At the parody end of the scale you’ve got Muslim supremacists invoking past anti-fascist anti-anti-Semitic street battles to justify crushing “Islamophobes”.

    Since neoliberalism has “won” and been a pretty good ally, the narrative of the utopian revolutionary isn’t — except to the most blockheaded anarchists and LARPing communists — as compelling as an ongoing game of Whack-a-Nazi and Whack-a-Confederate.

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  88. BB753 says:

    My father keeps in his attic an Iron Cross awarded to my great uncle (kia) by Hermann Göring himself, together with his service pistol. Is that nazi enough for the NY Times?

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  89. Peterike says:

    I don’t know how to research military matters well, but I wonder if the 460th was ever at the Berghof as grandpa claimed. I have my doubts. I think he was embellishing.

    The 460th fought in the Battle of the Bulge which was nowhere near. I suppose they could have gone there eventually. Any mil guys out there that can check?

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  90. Busby says:

    All she had to do was throw it in the trash. Or, given the age and condition, one trip through the washing machine would probably have done it in.

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  91. anonguy says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter
    My grandpa (died before I met him) fought against the Nazis. He brought back some swastika lapel pins and occupied France coins with swastikas, which I still have in the house. I always thought they were war trophies from the Nazis he killed. Thanks to the NYT I now understand that grandpa killing Nazis was only a pose. Since he was a white male, he obviously was always a Nazi in his heart, but covered it up during the war.

    Off topic slightly, but here's a prediction I will make for the summer of 2020. The Olympics will be in Tokyo then. Buddhist temples prominently display swastikas, which were a Buddhist symbol thousands of years before Hitler. Japanese maps even use swastikas to mark the location of temples.

    Prediction 1 (100% confidence). Some MSM organization will write an editorial saying that Japan need some to change this since it will be a trigger for the many victims of the Nazis.

    Prediction 2 (50% confidence). Some SJW writer visiting Japan for the Olympics will note Japan's lack of diversity and the swastikas and somehow make a like between the two.

    The temple swastikas have been triggering foreigners since forever but I have noted in recent years that the tempo and hysteria is increasing.

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  92. Thomas says:
    @ThreeCranes
    Your's is a very good comment among many others. But I doubt that many SJWs would have the stomach to really live at a time when they could fight live Nazis. I think they're perfectly happy fighting symbols rather than the real thing.

    SJWs never look at life as an all or nothing struggle. They assume that the Universe is fundamentally peaceful and that harmony and freedom from strife are the default conditions--a frictionless universe. When reality rears its ugly head they respond with murderous rage and try to obliterate the thing that is disturbing their pleasant fantasy.

    But I doubt that many SJWs would have the stomach to really live at a time when they could fight live Nazis. I think they’re perfectly happy fighting symbols rather than the real thing.

    I agree and I don’t think that they’d actually haven been interested in fighting personally either in the past or today, any more than Don Quixote was actually a knight rather than living out a romantic fantasy. Ironically, of course, the men who actually defeated both the Confederacy and Nazi Germany would today be regarded as Nazis themselves if modern-day SJWs encountered them.

    SJWs never look at life as an all or nothing struggle. They assume that the Universe is fundamentally peaceful and that harmony and freedom from strife are the default conditions–a frictionless universe. When reality rears its ugly head they respond with murderous rage and try to obliterate the thing that is disturbing their pleasant fantasy.

    I don’t think they really believe that. The ideal serves more as a motivation and justification for aggression (by letting them project their own hateful and aggressive impulses on to their chosen enemies) than it is anything most SJWs would actually want (of course, with most SJWs, the risk is increasingly that the revolution is going to deem you the next oppressor, it’s no accident that the most aggressive and violent lefties are Jeremy Christian-type white males).

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  93. Alden says:
    @The Penguin
    Paranoia. Galloping. Jews are paranoid people who always worry that powerful gentiles are conspiring against them. They're constantly looking for evidence of such conspiracies, and will will seize on any sign of unfriendliness (or even indifference) from such people as proof positive of their fears. It would be funny if the social consequences weren't so toxic.

    Jews are paranoid because they are always plotting against the goyim. So they think the goyim are plotting against Jews.

    New flash. A Jewish grant hustling non profit charitable group in Los Angeles is holding support sessions for
    1 holocaust survivors
    2 second generation (children) of holocaust survivors.
    3 third generation (grandchildren) of holocaust survivors.

    I think they are doing children and grandchildren so as to extort more compensation from Europe. and the rest of the world. After all, by 2050 the very last holocaust survivor will die at 105.

    Another reason Jews are paranoid is because a certain number of Jews make a living by being professional Jews. Foxman is a perfect example. Preach progroms, Auschwitz, and find anti semitism everywhere and rake in millions.

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  94. sb says:
    @Mr. Anon
    Along the same lines: the Bellamy Salute, which was apparently not uncommon in pre WWII America. It seems to have been changed to up-raised or side-raised hand after the Nazis came to power in Germany, before being discarded entirely sometime during WWII.

    Francis Bellamy was a National Socialist avant le lettre.

    Various salutes were not uncommon before WWII-the Nazis certainly did not have a monopoly .
    For instance the Olympic movement had it’s own salute which for some reason seems to have fallen out of favour .
    I guess to the people of the time such salutes were not that different to special or secret handshakes which , I’m told ,are still around .

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  95. donut says:
    @El Dato
    What is this?

    Doesn't everyone have a swastika in the attic?

    As artifacts go, the swastika presents some interesting challenges. Can’t really hang it in the house. “No, it’s O.K.!” I imagine my mom assuring guests. “It’s a stolen Nazi flag.”

    I’m not sure which new swastika flicked some switch in me. But after the election I decided, with conviction so intense it was almost alarming, our flag needs to be seen.
     
    This is something out of Father Ted, I am sure?

    https://youtu.be/oFDW2E9HU6M?t=92

    I brought the flag back to my apartment, unfolded it, spread it out on a table. It was really in Hitler’s house. The Hitler. He probably heiled it in the morning over a bowl of muesli before a long day at the office of orchestrating mass genocide.

    The swastika hummed with violence, like something cursed, or alive.
     
    What?

    I’d spent much of the morning in a new exhibition, “State of Deception: The Power of Nazi Propaganda.” It opened the same day that President Trump issued an executive order barring Syrian refugees and immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States. I was stunned by the installation’s unplanned prescience. The language of religious fear mongering has changed little since the 1930s. It felt as if the present was plagiarizing the past.
     
    What??

    You know if that slag’s grandfather served at all he never got within the sound of actual gunfire .

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  96. donut says:
    @The Penguin
    Paranoia. Galloping. Jews are paranoid people who always worry that powerful gentiles are conspiring against them. They're constantly looking for evidence of such conspiracies, and will will seize on any sign of unfriendliness (or even indifference) from such people as proof positive of their fears. It would be funny if the social consequences weren't so toxic.

    Sort of like Negros .

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  97. @ThreeCranes
    Your's is a very good comment among many others. But I doubt that many SJWs would have the stomach to really live at a time when they could fight live Nazis. I think they're perfectly happy fighting symbols rather than the real thing.

    SJWs never look at life as an all or nothing struggle. They assume that the Universe is fundamentally peaceful and that harmony and freedom from strife are the default conditions--a frictionless universe. When reality rears its ugly head they respond with murderous rage and try to obliterate the thing that is disturbing their pleasant fantasy.

    But I doubt that many SJWs would have the stomach to really live at a time when they could fight live Nazis. I think they’re perfectly happy fighting symbols rather than the real thing.

    They seem to have been reared on vidya games and power rangers fantasies, so I don’t think their account of NAZIs or Confederates contemplates the very real martial abilities of both groups and the substantial possibility that either could have prevailed. They’re just conceived of as the “Big Boss” at the end of the game that always and eventually gets defeated. NAZIs and Confederates get beaten because their opponents’ cause is just, not because of attrition, insufficient industrial supply, or fighting a war on two fronts.

    If SJWs wanted to fight real NAZIs – or at least real-life brigands who wear NAZI iconography openly and unironically – they could focus their attentions on the 1% OMC communities who wear cuts with NAZI stuff on them. But they won’t, because those NAZIs would quickly beat them to death rather than presenting themselves as punching bags obeying police lines. So they largely just avoid them.

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  98. Bugg says:

    Speaking of real racism,6 weeks out, no arrest nor security video nor any images at all of the evil racsit defacing of Lebron James’ LA home.

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  99. When I was in high school, I had a Jewish friend whose grandfather had fought in the war. He brought back–as a trophy–an SS-helmet with a bullet hole. I don’t know if he personally shot the guy or not, but he later gave this helmet to my friend as a memento. Perhaps I should report my old Jewish high-school friend for ‘closet anti-semitism’.

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  100. They seem to have been reared on vidya games and power rangers fantasies, so I don’t think their account of NAZIs or Confederates contemplates the very real martial abilities of both groups and the substantial possibility that either could have prevailed.

    I played a real time strategy WWII game for a short while. I soon figured out that more fun playing as the Nazi side and easier to win. I later learned that this is a common sentiment in the war gamer community. Gamers identify with the historically bad guys or at least respect them.

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  101. “The swastika hummed with violence, like something cursed, or alive.”

    Presumably it can only be destroyed in the fires of Mount Doom where it was forged.

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  102. L Woods says:

    Speak for yourself. I don’t identify with the Allied Anglo-Zionist plutocracy at all.

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  103. @AM

    There on my bookshelf is a copy of “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” with a swastika boldly printed on the dust jacket. I will now build a bonfire and dispose of it.
     
    I own red and white construction paper, glue, scissors, and black markers. All of those could be used make a swastika and/or Nazi. To better the world, I will add them to your bonfire. You can never be too careful.

    AM, good idea, we can’t be too careful.

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  104. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Bet the farm that whatever that “something” that she intends to do “with that swastika in the attic” will be financially profitable. Battling the evils of Antisemitism has a way of stopping at the cash register drawer.

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  105. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    “Millions of racist objects sit in the homes of everyday Americans.”

    And Americans have TV’s and stereos, and millions of images of Zionist ‘racist’ propaganda, fake news, rap music misogyny, porn misogyny, sports thuggery, anti-Christian homo degeneracy, and excessive decadence are beamed and streamed into every home, room, crevice.

    Yet, NYT is worried about some silly artifact lying about that no one even notices.

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  106. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @El Dato
    What is this?

    Doesn't everyone have a swastika in the attic?

    As artifacts go, the swastika presents some interesting challenges. Can’t really hang it in the house. “No, it’s O.K.!” I imagine my mom assuring guests. “It’s a stolen Nazi flag.”

    I’m not sure which new swastika flicked some switch in me. But after the election I decided, with conviction so intense it was almost alarming, our flag needs to be seen.
     
    This is something out of Father Ted, I am sure?

    https://youtu.be/oFDW2E9HU6M?t=92

    I brought the flag back to my apartment, unfolded it, spread it out on a table. It was really in Hitler’s house. The Hitler. He probably heiled it in the morning over a bowl of muesli before a long day at the office of orchestrating mass genocide.

    The swastika hummed with violence, like something cursed, or alive.
     
    What?

    I’d spent much of the morning in a new exhibition, “State of Deception: The Power of Nazi Propaganda.” It opened the same day that President Trump issued an executive order barring Syrian refugees and immigrants from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States. I was stunned by the installation’s unplanned prescience. The language of religious fear mongering has changed little since the 1930s. It felt as if the present was plagiarizing the past.
     
    What??

    Why would the Chinese care so much about Nazis? Not only do they have lots of swastikas over there but the Nazis were quite friendly to Nationalist China.

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  107. @Daniel H
    What would today's SJWs make of the old Hells Angels, who loved to wear Nazi Regalia, just to piss people off?

    Are there any old-time Hells Angels left? Have they all been converged.

    In the early 1970s, I lived three blocks from the NYC Hells Angels clubhouse on E Third Street. That was when the Angels were dirty and long haired and wore denim vests festooned with patches, including Nazi insignia. Recently I was in NYC and strolled by the clubhouse. The Angels I saw were shaven headed, clean and buff, and wore clean jeans and leather vests with only the traditional patch and rockers on the back. Now that they’re big in organized crime they’re not so “in your face.”

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