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Having followed school test score statistics since 1972 and noticed that almost nothing ever changes other than that Asians are now pulling away from the field and American Indians have suddenly collapsed, I’m alway struck by the flat learning curve of public school policymakers. They constantly go through a cycle of

A. Raising academic standards, only to discover, to their shock, that blacks and Hispanics are hit hardest,

B. After which they lower standards to increase Diversity-Inclusion-Equity (DIE), only to discover to their shock that Asians and whites won’t go to the dumbed down schools.

For example, Washington DC, home to perhaps the world’s largest collection of think tanks, is, nonetheless, right now moving from the A Phase to the B Phase of this endless Cycle of Life in the Public Schools.

In the early 21st Century, almost no white students past elementary school went to the DC public schools. Since then, as The Plan to push African-Americans out of DC’s valuable real estate progresses, the white percentage climbed to 10% by 2017. Of course, white parents try to bunch up with other white parents in certain schools while avoiding other certain schools. So, the slow moving antibodies of the DIE ideology are now laboriously moving to crush this development with Phase B.

From the Washington Post news section:

Does every D.C. child have a fair shot at attending an elite high school? The city is trying.

By Perry Stein
Dec. 1, 2019 at 12:41 p.m. PST

The D.C. public school system is scaling back admissions requirements for the city’s selective public high schools, an effort to open elite classrooms to students who live in every corner of the city.

The changes aim to address a problem vexing application public schools throughout the nation: How do campuses remain selective while also creating classrooms that reflect the demographics of the cities they serve?

In New York, the mayor proposed an overhaul of the admissions policy governing the city’s eight elite high schools only to be met with a lawsuit and protests. The plan is on hold.

In Boston, the NAACP and Lawyers for Civil Rights have urged the city to change its admissions requirements to three selective high schools where black student enrollment does not reflect the city’s diversity.

And in the District, Schools Chancellor Lewis D. Ferebee said in October that he would overhaul application requirements for the city’s eight selective high schools, eliminating most testing requirements and reducing the minimum grade-point average from middle school necessary to gain entrance. Middle school attendance records will not be taken into account.

Students are guaranteed a slot at standard high schools in the traditional public system, but they have to apply to selective high schools. The idea is to create more academically rigorous campuses and schools that offer specialized courses.

In the District, nearly 4,000 of the city’s 20,000 public high school students attend an application campus.

“We asked our high school principals, who led our charge, how they can ensure there is equitable access and how we can remove our barriers,” Ferebee said.

The chancellor’s announcement comes just a year after the District mandated that students wanting to attend most of the city’s application high schools had to pass a national standardized test administered to D.C. middle-schoolers.

But the implications of that requirement swiftly became evident. So few D.C. students, especially teenagers from low-income families, passed the test that city leaders acknowledged the requirement was largely ignored at most application high schools.

Who could possibly have seen that the A Phase of the cycle would not lead to Diversity-Inclusion-Excellence? I mean, we are only 50 years out from Arthur Jensen’s December 1969 article in the Harvard Educational Review, “How Much Can We Boost IQ and Scholastic Achievement?” How can you expect elite opinion to notice in a mere half century?

… Among members of the 2017-2018 freshman class at Phelps ACE High School, an engineering-focused application campus, only two students passed the math portion of their standardized exam in middle school, according to data obtained through a public information request.

The school system said the testing requirement was haphazardly and inconsistently implemented, and officials decided to eliminate the requirement to ensure all students understand they have a shot at attending. …

“However the selection is made, and whatever the criteria is, it’s useful for policymakers to know what is going on here,” said Richard V. Reeves, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution think tank who has studied selective high schools throughout the country. “Why are these kids here, and those not? We know what we’re arguing about.”

Sure you do. That’s why the school districts you advise keep cycling through the same mistakes over and over again.

Research by Reeves opens a window into why some school leaders think expanding access is critical. In a Brookings report, Reeves found that many selective high schools in the nation’s big urban school systems have a student body disproportionately made up of white students.

Like Stuyvesant HS in Manhattan is 93% Lily White (or to be, technical, it’s Lily White-Adjacent: it’s 74% Asian, but who is counting?).

So, death to Phase A of the Cycle. Onward to the glorious future of Phase B of the Cycle! (And then back to Phase A when Phase B fails. Rinse and repeat, ad infinitum.)

 
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  1. Hodag says:

    The lil Hodags are Chicago Public School students. We literally won a 1 in 25 lottery to get our kids into the local magnet school which is wonderful.

    CPS does do selective enrollment high schools well. The eldest lil Hodag will be attending a special program where it allows bright 7th graders to start high school early and the last 2 years take AP classes and/or start taking a few classes at U of C or Loyola for actual real credit (for free). But CPS in all selective enrollments let’s 30% in on pure merit (test scores plus grades), the the remaining 70% of students come from 4 regions of the city, by rough socioeconomic class by census data. What it means in practice is for the 7th grade program the (generally) black kids need to score at least 117 on the admission test which is an IQ test. No one has a problem with their kid going to school with 117 IQ kids no matter what their skin color.

    • Replies: @Jeffrey S.
    , @ken
  2. The fools in educational academia will never learn (or admit) that the policies they dream up to addressed perceived inequities in statist controlled public educational systems are destructive to their students and communities and always will be until they abandon the attempt to engineer some crackpot goals around so-called diversity, inclusion, and excellence.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    , @Kronos
  3. Rosie says:

    Pretty much. Common core was a Phase A initiative. The problem with common core is that your average student has average parents who cannot deal with common core, and as we all know, schools cannot teach students without “parent involvement,” which basically means the parent has to do the actual teaching.

    • Replies: @nymom
    , @CAL2
  4. Daniel H says:

    In New York, the mayor proposed an overhaul of the admissions policy governing the city’s eight elite high schools…..

    In Boston, the NAACP and Lawyers for Civil Rights have urged the city to change its admissions requirements to three selective high schools …..

    And in the District, Schools Chancellor Lewis D. Ferebee said in October that he would overhaul application requirements for the city’s eight selective high schools, eliminating most testing requirements……

    Again, I encourage this trend and you all should too. White SJWs are not our allies. They are the enemy. They do everything they can to destroy our world. Well, I want their world destroyed. Let’s do our best to make it so that they cannot send their spawn to quality schools in their urban hoods. Let’s do our best to make the SJW have to spend 20k to 40k to just so that their young can receive what can only be a mediocre education.

    White SJWs are the enemy. Hurt them.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  5. How old was Steve in 1972 when he started following these statistics?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  6. Svevlad says:

    Americans should just give up on the whole education shtick

    Or give it over completely to the chinese (blacks ree to death) or eastern europeans (everyone rees to death, but at least they learn something.)

    I mean, common core with the fucking over of maths? Then dumb it down further?

    Yea I’m thinking of branding nearly every graduatee as permanently unemployable and reinstating slavery 2.0: multiracial edition. Their minds are simply too corrupted to allow them to freely crawl about

  7. The average American Black has an 85 IQ. This means about a third of Blacks are Borderline Impaired on the current Binet scale, and on average a Black is one standard deviation below a white.

    Depending on your belief on the classic nature v nurture mix, a large part of that could be the truly terrible schools run by some corrupt administrators. As an example, in Michigan the terrible school districts are run by Black school boards with Black admins (however, the last almost decade Detroit schools have been run by first the state, and now by an appointed admin with little input from the traditionally corrupt board–things are not getting much better).

    Anyhow, the test scores are right about where you would expect them. More seriously, traditional classroom lecture and lockstep activities aren’t really going to work when a significant group of the students are seriously dumber.

    Plus the other issue. Ghetto Black kids really like beating, robbing, and raping white and Asian students. Schools with a large population of Black kids are where those crimes happen a lot. Parents don’t like it when that happens to their children

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anon
  8. @Jim bob Lassiter

    13. I was starting high school debate. The topic in 1972-73 was: Should the federal government fund all public school education?

    In the spring of 1973 when I was 14, I had a letter to the editor published in National Review joking about Ernst van den Haag’s review of sociologist Christopher Jencks’ book “Inequality,” which was a meta-analysis of the “Coleman Report.”

  9. Arclight says:

    Big cities are in a conundrum – try to keep white and Asian parents with kids happy so they stay and help buoy test scores in public schools (and keep paying a disproportionate share of local taxes) or cater to the more numerous POC parents/guardians whose votes are the Democratic party’s core?

    Right now with the economy running pretty strong and cities gentrifying they can gamble on the latter but if that stalls out and crime and disorder start to increase…

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
  10. anon[247] • Disclaimer says:

    Cognitive dissonance at work. Because the alternative to this endless oscillation between state A and state B is unthinkable. Literally. Who wants to admit that Head Start has zero effect by 3rd grade, and therefore is just a kind of placebo? Who wants to admit that The Gap in test scores cannot be closed because it is at least partly, if not largely, due to Nature and not Nurture?

    Who can bear to give up the blank slate? The special, the true, the real blank slate?

    The precious blank slate…the Precious blanks slate…

    • Replies: @John Achterhof
  11. @Steve Sailer

    Bravo!! How in the world did you manage to stay out of trouble through HS graduation?

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
  12. nymom says:
    @Rosie

    This has been one of my issues for years now. Both of my children and then my grandchildren, when they lived with me, were bringing back homework that the teacher had not reviewed the concepts of during the day.

    So as opposed to doing a review in the evening of what was supposed to be taught during the day, I was actually teaching the whole lesson…

    Thank goodness I was a college graduate and could handle it; however, I just can’t imagine what the parents did who didn’t have this background…

    • Replies: @Rosie
  13. Anon[377] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    That’s exactly what I was doing at 14.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
  14. Rosie says:
    @nymom

    Thank goodness I was a college graduate and could handle it; however, I just can’t imagine what the parents did who didn’t have this background…

    I don’t blame the teachers, either. They don’t get the support they need to keep order and discipline, so it’s hard for them to teach. They spend most of their time doing crowd control.

    • Replies: @Anon
  15. Polynikes says:

    Most people in the public sector simply don’t care. They’re biding their time until they’re pension eligible. They’ll always choose the path of least resistance which means giving whomever complains the most what they want. Thus, Asians and whites will get nothing.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  16. @Enemy of Earth

    Definitely not “excellence”.

    the flat learning curve of public school policymakers

    We need a term for “flat curve”..

    a problem vexing application public schools throughout the nation: How do campuses remain selective while also creating classrooms that reflect the demographics of the cities they serve?

    How do we maintain standards and lower them at the same time? Vexing.

    • Replies: @anon
  17. anarchyst says:

    It was just as bad in the 1960s. In fact, Detroit’s Northeastern High School had a “black students union” that was successful in getting the American flag removed from the front of the school and replacing it with a “black nationalist” flag.

    The ordeal that white students had to go through was harrowing, to say the least.

    White students did not use the restrooms, as a “beatdown” by multiple blacks was usually the result. Blacks never fought one-on-one, the “pack mentality” was evident then as is today.

    Blacks did not want to learn, the same situation that still exists today.

    Most teachers were deferential to blacks, although there were a few teachers who tried to carefully shield their White and Asian students from predatory blacks, giving them additional attention and coursework, knowing that they could excel in spite of the, violent, raucous atmosphere.

    Anywhere blacks go, they destroy…

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  18. Phase B at a NYC high school:

    Beacon High School Is Half White. That’s Why Students Walked Out.
    More than 300 students at the selective public high school, one of New York City’s most prestigious, protested its admissions policies.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/02/nyregion/nyc-beacon-high-school-walkout.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage&section=New%20York

    “Beacon’s student population is about half white, a striking anomaly in a public school system that is nearly 70 percent black and Hispanic. Beacon is not a specialized high school — it has no admissions test — but its highly competitive admissions process requires students to assemble a portfolio of middle school work, admissions essays and high standardized test scores and grades. It is one of the most selective schools in New York: Last year, there were over 5,800 applications for 360 ninth-grade seats.”

    “Beacon has a higher percentage of black and Hispanic students than Stuyvesant — about 32 percent compared to 4 percent at the specialized school — but also a higher percentage of white students, fewer Asian students and a lower percentage of students living in poverty. The school’s parent-teacher organization raised over $685,000 for the school last year, according to data released on Monday.”

    The horror! So many white students!

    If all schools tracked by ability and maintained order and safety, people wouldn’t be so desperate to escape the morons and the thugs.

  19. How do campuses remain selective while also creating classrooms that reflect the demographics of the cities they serve?

    Ah, the paradox at the center of the “Inclusion” ideology: How do we include below-average people within our definition of above-average?

    Surely, with new “systems,” and more funding, and technology, we will discovery how to do this eventually.

  20. Meanwhile, most white parents send their children to private schools in an increasingly large number of cities.

    • Replies: @Arclight
  21. @Arclight

    Location, location, location.

  22. Kronos says:
    @Enemy of Earth

    It reminds me of the joke of the boy who always chose a nickel over a quarter.

    The barber would call a kid in and ask if he’d prefer a nickel over a quarter. The kid chose a nickel every time. The barber would always get laugh out of it. One day, a costumer asked the kid outside the barbershop why he always chooses the nickel. The boy promptly replies “I receive 25 nickels a week for free, if I ever choose the quarter the money stops completely.”

    Ever since the “War on Poverty” in education, it’s been a big money pit. Remember, state funding for schools equal the federal military budget once nationally aggregated. Education reform is primarily based on “War on Poverty” notions. Very much reminds me of the film “Pentagon Wars” but for education.

  23. anonymous[391] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    wwebd said: trivia question asked – what was the California topic in 1974, trivia question answered – the topic in 1974 was : should the electoral college be abolished?

    me and my partner H.Y. did good at debating that subject at our local high school (Amador Valley High) but, I realize this now, when we took the bus to some high school just a little south of San Jose for the regional competition (I remember how the foggy morning looked from the windows of the bus, as we travelled south on the highway that ran southernwards from the Oakland foothills) we did not do well, and one of the things I am most ashamed of from my youth is that I was not able to refrain from blaming my partner, who did not do any worse than I did.

    If you are reading this, H.Y., I have felt bad about that since 1974. On the other hand, I am a supremely gifted psychologist – really I am – and I have no doubt that, in later years, you had access to many rewards in life —-I am fairly certain that you were, when you went to college and afterwards, the sort of guy that women like without knowing why, and you obviously had kind and friendly parents. When, reading the immortal works of Wodehouse, one mentions the name of Psmith, I think about you…..

    If it makes you feel better, H.Y., I really really hope, in spite of my thoughtless moments of annoyance in 1974 – remember, I spoke without thinking – I really really hope that you had a good life …. and when I say I hope that something is true – well, God answers my prayers, retroactively, proactively, and whatever falls in between, so there’s that.

    • Replies: @Carol
  24. Ed says:

    It’s really scary how they wave away standards or achievement in favor of bean counting races. In suburban NoVa, a new STEM school in Loudoun county is under attack from NAACP because of few blacks & Hispanics.

    https://www.loudountimes.com/news/loudoun-county-naacp-calls-for-investigation-into-academies-admissions-process/article_3159c28c-4b22-11e9-aab8-7f598c595aa8.html

    The Loudoun County NAACP says it wants a full investigation from the school system into the admissions process for the Academies of Loudoun due to the small number of black students accepted into the specialized schools.

    The Academies, which opened in August 2018 and sits on 120 acres located off Sycolin Road, is intended to train students in the fields of science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM). The Academies houses Loudoun’s science, technology, engineering and career and vocational tech programs. It’s made up of the Academy of Science, Academy of Engineering and Technology and Monroe Advanced Technical Academy.

    The Academies has 1,542 students enrolled and has an application process that reviews previous grades, scores and requires further testing.

    A total of 2,116 students applied for the Academy of Science and Academy of Engineering and Technology, including 65 black students, according to a report from the schools.

    Only one black student was accepted along with two American Indian and Pacific Islander students, rounding out the three lowest ethnic groups admitted. Asian (353) and white (104) students make up the top two ethnicity groups accepted.

  25. Arclight says:
    @Redneck farmer

    I suspect this effect is just fine with the political leadership in a lot of locations – these parents still pay property taxes to fund the schools their kids don’t attend, which provide lots of public sector jobs for loyal Democrats, with a portion of their salaries redirected to the public employee unions and Democratic campaign coffers.

    This is the route we had to go after a brief experiment with our kids in city public schools – but very quickly it was apparent that was going to be a disaster to stay there. So private school it is, but frankly it’s worth every dime we pay for it.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  26. anon[230] • Disclaimer says:
    @HammerJack

    We need a term for “flat curve”..

    • LOL: HammerJack, Kronos
  27. @Jim bob Lassiter

    California in 1970’s was hardly the California of the 2010’s. It was still so solidly Republican that Ford beat Carter there in 1976.

  28. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lawyer Guy

    Given that the average American Black has an 85 IQ, that means that two thirds of them should be able to attain an honest (by pre-1960 white standards) sixth grade reading and math level. That just is not the case, with about fifteen percent of blacks with rough parity with average whites but most of the rest at third grade or lower numbers.

    So great improvements can be made. But the next two questions are, will they be, and even, should they be?

    A certain percentage of ghetto blacks are so utterly incorrigible that they simply can not be abided in white society (or really even in black society) and isolating, deporting or dispatching them are the only reasonable measures, but that’s a smaller percentage of blacks than is generally supposed in my opinion as long as society “keeps the skeer up”. Jim Crow “kept the skeer up”, and it kept the bodies of young whites and young blacks at impregnable distances.

    • Replies: @Cato
    , @Colin Wright
  29. Peterike says:

    How about in every minority-majority city we open a Super Smart Kids Academy. Admission only by special test! Then we create a test with questions like “what goes into purple drank?” or “who killed Biggie?” or something about the latest telenovellas. Then whatever the scores (Asians will scam the tests in two months anyway) we just admit 90% blacks, Hispanics and Arabs with a smattering of whites and Asians. And we all agree it’s the best, most elite school in the city.

    I mean, nobody cares about anything other than empty credentialism. So let em have it good and hard.

    • Replies: @Mr. Blank
    , @Merrittocrat
  30. Carol says:
    @anonymous

    “me and my partner H.Y. did good at debating”

    Really?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Reg Cæsar
  31. @Steve Sailer

    Were you pro or con, Steve, and more importantly, what was/is your real opinion, not just the one you were to argue?

    This is pretty much the same as “Are you or have you ever been a Communist?”, but I won’t blacklist you – you’ve got enough people trying to do that to you, and I don’t want to pile on.
    ;-}

  32. Cato says:
    @Anonymous

    There needs to be more creative, humane thinking about how to solve this problem, of such large numbers of blacks so poorly adapted to our civilization. In my darkest moments, I think that the only solution is massive sterilization. But I know this is wrong. America has to be a good country for ALL of us. Something else has to be the solution.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anonymous
    , @Colin Wright
  33. anonymous[684] • Disclaimer says:
    @Carol

    In California in 1974 there were, give or take ten thousand or so, a couple hundred thousand ninth graders.

    Me and H.Y. were among the two or three hundred best at debating, based on the decisions made

    based on

    some long-ago knowledge

    that the debate referees of that long ago time were privy to.

    So yes, really.

    Carol, you would have loved to hear us debate.

    Trust me.

    (the “did good” reference which you implicitly mocked was not a mistake, it was a shout-out to later debate strategies based on what hoi polloi get excited about when they hear extra-dimensional rhetorical shout-outs to purposeful deviations from good grammar, trust me – O I get it that you think that was a SCORE AGAINST ME but believe me my young friend, in the exuberance and giftedness of my youth I knew how to score coming and going. Like I said, hundreds of thousands, on the one hand, and two or three hundred of us, on the other hand.)

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  34. Anon[324] • Disclaimer says:

    There’s a version of this that applies to teachers, and New York is in the midst of a change from B to A right now after a previous change to B from A several years ago.

    A. Raising teacher credential and high school subject matter praxis standards, only to discover, to their shock, that black teachers disappear and all the teachers are white.

    B. After which they lower standards to increase the number of teachers-who-look-like-me, only to discover to their shock that the teaching quality at the school goes down the dumper.

    The thing here is that research is clear that, absent incompetence at an astronomical level, “teacher quality” does not matter anyway, and smart kids survive and find their own way. They might as well hire a quota of inept black teachers: it hurts noone.

    Hilariously, despite a substantial research literature supporting these findings, both the Zuckermans and the Gateses have funded nine-digit projects to try to improve teacher quality. Both ended with yet more verification of what was already known. Who will be the next billionaire who will pay unionized “bad teachers” to go on paid sabbatical while “good teachers” are substituted in, only to result in no change in student outcomes?

  35. Anon[324] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cato

    There needs to be more creative, humane thinking about how to solve this problem, of such large numbers of blacks so poorly adapted to our civilization.

    Although blacks may indeed be other problems, their main problem is a lower average IQ, simply that. For every black with a low IQ, there is a white with the same low IQ, who has mostly the same sorts of trouble in life as his black doppelganger. It’s just that with blacks being visibly different, their differing outcomes and representation are obvious and causes resentment.

    Something similar might happen if we tested white children’s IQs and tattooed “Left Tail” on the foreheads of those with, say, sub-90 IQs, such that they became identifiable as a visible population group separate from other whites. People would start to notice that Lefties were underrepresented in high political office, in corporate management, in law and medicine, in the teaching profession … and in professional basketball and elite sprinting to boot. You might get a civil rights/social justice movement growing out of it.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  36. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cato

    There are answers, they just are not palatable ones.

    If blacks are to live in a society that is fit for whites, they are going to have to be the ones to adjust, and the problem is that even if they might decide on their own that overall that’s a good strategy vis-a-vis the alternative(s), they are not in control of their own ‘narrative’. It’s been written for them by outside forces and that won’t change, not under present arrangements. There are a few blacks, as individuals, who “get it” but the majority do not and never will.

    I’m sure that when the US breaks up, there will be places where blacks and whites co-exist, and places where they will not. No one much cares if there is an all-black country. There are people who very much care if there is an all white country-that is, they are very, very much insistent that it not come into being. The question is if they love their own identity more than they hate whites, because I think the whites ultimately will win. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t be reading this site or commenting here. I think a hard, tough white remnant will survive. They may or they may not and it is up to them.

  37. @Carol

    “me and my partner H.Y. did good at debating”

    Really?

    Him and his (debate!) partner came to do good, and did well.

  38. @Anonymous

    Try raising a dog the way we raise most blacks. Encourage him to bite you. Don’t punish him if he snatches food from your plate.

    You’ll find his behavior to be as intolerable — for similar reasons.

    The distinction is that we recognize a dog’s limitations and treat him accordingly. When we do that, everything works out fine.

    …both for the dog and for us.

  39. @Cato

    ‘…America has to be a good country for ALL of us. Something else has to be the solution.’

    It can be a good country for all of us. But we have to shake the notion that blacks are the equal of other groups, or can be treated as if they are.

    I don’t believe in the necessary equality of any two groups. However, with the exception of blacks most are close enough to each other so that we can treat them as if they are.

    Blacks are the exception. We have to recognize that.

    • Replies: @donvonburg
  40. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lawyer Guy

    40% of blacks have IQs below 80 or retarded.

  41. Mr. Blank says:
    @Peterike

    You know, in all seriousness, I wouldn’t be surprised if places like NYC eventually come up with some kind of “look! SQUIRREL!” strategy like this — though of course they won’t lay it out so openly. They’ll come up with a bunch of empty, pleasing-sounding wokespeak to sell the new, diverse “elite” schools, while intentionally underselling the ACTUAL elite schools by making them sound as boring and uncool as possible.

    The multicultural “elite” schools will have glossy, full color information packets with lots of photos that make them look like a hip, diverse paradise. There will be a snazzy, cutting-edge website and a big social media presence. The information packets for the ACTUAL elite schools will be printed on cheap pulp and will be text only. There will be no visible social media and a dull, generic website with just the basics. Everything will be presented in a way that de-emphasizes their “elite” status except to those “in the know.” Etc. Clever white people have always excelled at this sort of thing.

    Only smart parents who can read between the lines will initially see what’s really going on. It would probably be enough to distract the lunatics for a generation or so before they figured out that, once again, they’ve been played.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
  42. @Colin Wright

    It’s easy for us in America to say that because we do not have Australian aborigines or Capoid/Hottentots, and most of our Indians are partly or largely white.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  43. @Ed

    Wonder how the NAACP would react to the suggestion more black students apply for vocational training?

  44. dearieme says:

    whatever the criteria is

    This guy is evidently unqualified to discuss education.

  45. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    For every black with a low IQ, there is a white with the same low IQ, who has mostly the same sorts of trouble in life as his black doppelganger. It’s just that with blacks being visibly different, their differing outcomes and representation are obvious and causes resentment.

    The reason they are more noticeable is that there are 5 times as many whites as blacks, so the sub-85 population is 1/2 of the black population but only 1/10th of the white. So if you meet a random black, it’s 50/50 whether he will be below 85 while 9 out of 10 white people are above that. Saying that there are as many sub-85 whites as blacks is true but misleading because it doesn’t take into account relative population size.

    • Replies: @Anon
  46. Jake says:

    Great Leaps Forward require faith so strong that you are willing to destroy your own children along with those of the white trash in order to find paradise of perfect equality in which Negroes truly are Numinous, as well as largely free of those unfortunate traits to rape and rob and murder.

    And in that paradise, nobody ever could notice Jews being anything other than the very definition of equitably fair and selfless.

  47. Dan Smith says:

    Definition of insanity.

  48. @Anon

    I woulda been doing that but I chose to be riding my motocrosser, blowing things up in the woods, and shooting my BB gun. Good thing Ritalin wasn’t being pushed back then, although I did read World Book and car magazines with good attention, as well as paying attention to old Playboy magazines.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  49. @Mr. Blank

    Fund the flashy diversity trap school better than the staid high standards school too- it doesn’t matter, good teachers will still want to teach the best students. Then when the Woke commissars notice which school is outperforming them, point out that the school is not as highly funded so gosh, it must be something else. What could it be?

  50. @anon

    It does seem here that the communally-enjoyed fruit of moral sentiment borne of an unsound premise is just too delicious to turn down in scrupulous examination.

    I am reminded in this consideration of the parable told to me long ago in Sunday school of the Sanctimonious Soul at the Pearly Gates. As my teacher told it the soul was put through the standard interview by God, including what meaning he took from the life of his Son on earth, and after giving a lengthy reply, laden with bromides, the soul went on to ask God what meaning he took from the event. God sighed before the pious soul, a bit surprised by this turn by the supplicant, then replied thusly: “You give a set of fine furniture to coarse, factional humanity and they will burn it up as firewood at the outset of winter.”

    “It is said that the wages of sin is death,” my teacher said in closing, “but verily death comes for us all. Sanctimoniousness, on the other hand, signals in some cases the death in life of a capable spirit born of untrammeled curiosity.”

  51. @Steve Sailer

    In the spring of 1973 when I was 14, I had a letter to the editor published in National Review joking about Ernst van den Haag’s review of sociologist Christopher Jencks’ book “Inequality,” which was a meta-analysis of the “Coleman Report.”

    All of this was only possible because nobody asked to touch your hair.

    • LOL: Old Prude
  52. @Daniel H

    That’s a radical approach. You’ll mostly wind up hurting Asians, at least in NYC.

    But I have supported AOCing older white Democratic Congressmen out of their jobs for the same reason.

  53. @Arclight

    Recall that public school unions are no longer mandatory, the Janus decision. This will eventually break the power of the unions as free riders get the benefits of the union contract without paying the cost.

  54. @Hodag

    Hodag,

    I raised my kids in Edgebrook — local school was basically all white so was just fine through 8th. Both of my girls got into Lane Tech. My oldest who is in college now, had a lot of good options and is going to a good smaller liberal arts school (too progressive for my tastes, but I’m hoping she’ll grow out of it.) Younger one is a cheerleader at Lane and is doing just fine — I help feed her conservative ideas in her AP American History class!

  55. @donvonburg

    ‘It’s easy for us in America to say that because we do not have Australian aborigines or Capoid/Hottentots, and most of our Indians are partly or largely white.’

    Those too, but these aren’t exactly huge populations. I tend to confine my considerations to the big three and the combinations and subgroups thereof: whites, blacks, and East Asians.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  56. @Peterike

    I agree with Mr. Blank, this is actually a great idea.

    Market one flavor of school as hip, future-centric, and oh-so-diverse. Got a buzzword? Implement it here at Super Smart Gap-Closerz $uccess Academy.

    Market the other as “readin, ‘ritin, and ‘rithmetic, plus discipline, boring dead languages and endless hours in the lab.” Give it a weird boring name, like Fichte Prep.

    Watch NAMs and woke-Whites run to the former, while Asian and unwoke-White families quietly fill the latter. Quietly.

    Everyone gets what he wants.

  57. ken says:
    @Hodag

    Wonderful schools were the kids are immersed in leftist indoctrination.

    • Agree: Rosie
  58. @Colin Wright

    “The distinction is that we recognize a dog’s limitations and treat him accordingly.”

    Segregation was a humane attempt to do just this, but the (((usual suspects))) [with the help of some of our own race traitors] agitated against it and eventually legislated it away, so now the only solution is complete separation, preferably by repatriating blacks back to their mother continent. This would be the greatest bargain of all time at any price.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  59. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    Not in the “ good” White suburban schools The students in those schools behave very well.

    It’s parental involvement. The education establishment endless discusses and ponders
    “ why oh why do blacks do so badly in public schools?”

    Mentioning IQ is forbidden. Mentioning behavior is absolutely forbidden. “ why oh why do Whites and Asians do so well in school but blacks don’t ? ”

    The answer, parental involvement also known as the homework and school project burden dumped on the parents.

    For instance, common core requires each student starting in 2nd grade to read 30 minutes a day at home from a list of approved books from the school. The students keep a journal and fill out some questions about the chapter they read every night and the parents and children sign it each day.

    Most of the required books are liberal brainwashing. I remember one about 2011 for 3rd graders. That’s years before the tyranny onslaught. It was a cute story but the brainwashing was just blatant

    There was a doll. A rabbit. It was dressed as a boy doll. The little girl who owned it loved him and he loved her. Then he got lost, someone found him and he was dressed as a girl doll. Next owner dressed as a boy again Repeat girl boy girl boy. But the doll always missed his original owner

    Then one day he was dressed as a boy again on a shelf in a store. Original owner, now a 35 year old mother came in and bought him for her own daughter. And the doll was happy again.

    Blatant brainwashing to prepare for the tyranny onslaught a few years later

    That’s in addition to 45 minutes -2 hours of homework depending on age. And the parents are expected to hover around and sign they helped the student and participate.

    Plus, much of it must be done on the parents computer and printer, whether the printer is out of ink, something isn’t working, or the WIFI is down, something that happens often in rural and outlying suburban areas.

    Every weekend the teachers on unpaid overtime have to type the lesson plans for the entire week and email them to the parents. The parents acknowledge they’ve received them.

    By 4th grade there can be 2 hours of homework a night counting the required reading. Oh, there’s a spelling test every Friday. But it’s not taught in school, The parents have the students memorize the spelling words.

    There is no acknowledgment whatsoever that children under 12 need plenty of sleep every night. No acknowledgement that children born September- November are young for the school year and need more sleep than children born January to June. I assume that’s not covered in college education departments with all the child development classes

    Then there’s the school projects never done at school, always done at home. The parents have to buy all the materials of course. $20-$35. It’s no longer possible to get them done in one weekend either. Now it must be done in stages for a month. Meanwhile it’s scattered all over the living room of the standard open plan house.

    Although the schools endlessly preach professional careers for the girls, the burden put on the parents is more suitable for a middle class 1950’s ideal housewife and mother with nothing to do but supervise homework. No 60-80 hour a week job for both parents, no hour long commute each way for both parents, no housework home repairs and maintenance .

    And not much time for the endless activities high school students are expected to do so they can get into a good college or even a magnet high school.

    The idea that children and teens of parents with long hours and long commutes should do some laundry walk the dog shovel snow rake leaves water the garden tidy the house cook dinner or have a part time job is just unthinkable.

    If you’ve ever looked at the required curriculum standards of your state you’ll note so many minutes of this and that subject each day. If you add up the minutes of actual class room teaching of these subjects it’s usually less than the homework hours every night. In a 6 1/2 hour school day it’s 2 hours of actual instruction time in grade school.

    Why send them to public school if the parents just repeat what should have been done in school? Do we take the car to a car wash then take it home and wash it again? Hire an electrician pay him then do it all over again?
    No

    But since 2 incomes are needed to support the household, neither parent can stay home to homeschool.

    There’s a fifth grade project, Great Americans for which the parents have to make a costume and supervise all the research and rehearsals Nothing is done at school. The student dresses up in a costume and makes a speech about which great American he or she represents.

    The student is given nothing but the name. The student is supposed to do the research after school write the speech after school and make a costume after school. Why couldn’t the research and speech writing be done at school during the school day? Why did that have to be done at home?

    Our son was assigned Neil Armstrong and needed an astronaut costume. It was in the spring, no Halloween costumes of course. So we went to Home Depot and spent $80.00 on a White hazmat suit boot covers and a hard had we painted white The suit was too big of course so I had to shorten the legs and sleeves

    A year later the girl was assigned Nellie Bly a 19th century newspaper reporter. At least she had black shoes and white blouses. But I still had to buy fabric and make a long skirt, black knee socks and find a suitable hat in a second hand store and refurbish it.

    At least they were assigned White great Americans. Half the people on the list were black Americans. Crispus Atticus won the revolutionary war, Harriet Tubman freed the slaves. First woman to beat a man at tennis Billie Jean King wasn’t in the list but the William’s sisters and other blacks were.

    No mention of Edison or Bell. Just obscure blacks and the enduring myth that a black Woman invented the laundry mangle which was used in medieval Europe centuries before the Europeans and Africans arrived in America

    Did you know that all the railroads all over the country, not just California and Utah were built by Chinese immigrants who worked harder and better than the Whites? And black, not White ranchers and cowboys settled the west. Except when the Indians were abused, that was all done by Whites.

    Education experts are split Half their endless research and solutions is weeping and wailing about out of control near retarded blacks and Hispanic Central American immigrants who barely speak Spanish let alone English.

    The other half is creating parental involvement programs suitable for striving Asian and White helicopter parents with parents who are home by 5/30 every evening, never work weekends and have nothing to do evenings and weekends but do what the school should have done during
    the 6-7 hours a day, 30-35 hours a week the children are in the schools for which we pay taxes.

    And don’t get me started in the anti White male brainwashing to which our sons are subjected to every day for 13 years.

    • Replies: @midtown
    , @RadicalCenter
  60. CAL2 says:
    @Rosie

    The problem with Common Core is it assumes everyone is, at a minimum, far above average in math ability. Therefore, it tries to teach math concepts instead of practical usage. The result is confused kids and parents.

    Reality is that addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division are enough to get the below average through life. If they know those things, they’re doing well. Average people need algebra and geometry. Even if the average could do more math, they really won’t understand much beyond that level. They’ll simply be a grind who can muddle through. People with math ability need more and they can actually handle the higher abstractions of it.

    You can’t have a math curriculum, like Common Core, that doesn’t recognize this situation. Teaching the below average or even average +3 ways of doing the same type of math problem is confusing. Those students need straightforward methods of using math. They’ll figure out or be told shortcuts later. But, a fixed approach is what they need.

  61. Jack D says:
    @fredyetagain aka superhonky

    (((usual suspects)))

    In 1954, the Supreme Court that did away with segregation had 1 Jew and 8 race traitors, so I don’t think you can blame the (((usual suspects))).

    This is pretty much par for the course for anti-Semites. Jesus said, ” And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  62. @Ed

    Asian (353) and white (104) students make up the top two ethnicity groups accepted.

    In Virginia, which was 90% white in recent memory. Surely the answer is “more immigration”.

  63. @anonymous

    Maybe he was referring to you writing “did good” instead of “did well.” As you wrote “so-and-so and me” here instead of “so-and-so and I.” Just a guess.

  64. midtown says:
    @Anon

    You did more work than homeschooling anyway. We homeschool and it is, for the most part, done in half a day or less.

  65. @Colin Wright

    That leaves out many, many millions of people who live in the USA. There is a huge and growing number of people here, several tens of millions, who are mixed Indian/white Hispanic (Mexicans and most Latin Americans) or mixed black/white Hispanic (e.g. most Puerto Ricans). More than there are Asians and even more than there are Africans in the USA.

    At least four groups, then, would be needed to capture the great bulk of “our” population — your three plus at least one partly-nonwhite-Hispanic group.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  66. @Anon

    Some great points, but let’s not exaggerate the burdens on most US parents. Most do not work anything near “60-80 hours” per week, whether white- or blue-collar, and on average the commute is 26 minutes each way.

    But you’re right on many, many points here. We spend time several times per week asking in detail what the kids are being taught in history and otherwise, then correcting the deliberately ignorant, one-sided, politicized viewpoints that were presented to our kids as objective undisputed facts.

    We opt them out of the sex ed class itself — though some in the California state legislature want to take away even that option from parents. But the California state standards now call for pro-homosexual, pro-transgender (“inclusive” and “tolerant”) propaganda to be integrated into every part of the curriculum, not just the class devoted specifically to sex ed. There’s no way to opt out of all those except homeschooling or paying for private school — not a realistic option for many parents, and not even a realistic option for somewhat higher-income families like us who have numerous children.

    • Agree: Dissident
    • Replies: @Anon
  67. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    This is pretty much par for the course for anti-Semites. Jesus said, ” And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?”

    Other than this misuse of the term ‘anti-Semites’, I agree completely. Jews are not repeat not the problem, whites are the problem. Whites are not right in their thinking. Jews, blacks, orientals, steezers, abbos, eskimos, they are not the issue.

    Arabs are Semites. Persians are not.. Some Jews are Semites, others, ehhh, maybe, maybe not.

    I know that ‘anti-semite’ was a historical elocution that sounded politer than “anti-Jewish”, but it just makes no sense anymore.

  68. Forbes says:
    @Polynikes

    Public education is merely a taxpayer-funded jobs program for adults. Any learning is an accidental and incidental by-product of the day care provided for children while their parents are at work. The educational benefit acquired by students result from their own efforts, diligence, discipline.

    My entire lifetime has been filled with a lament regarding the need to improve schools, with the programs enacted devoting more resources, hiring more employees, paying ever-higher compensation and benefits, while the lament remains. If the Education Blob knew how to improve schools–they’d have done it by now.

    Steve’s A–>B–>A–>B–>A circularity is as good an explanation as necessary.

    It’s quite a bit like the Dems and their impeachment rationale. While the objective of impeachment (school improvement) remains, the route taken–Russia, Ukraine, quid pro quo, bribery, obstruction–keeps changing (testing, teacher evaluation, rigorous curricula–Common Core, and DIE–Diversity, Inclusion, Equity).

  69. FeFe says:

    C. Locking parents out at the schoolyard gates by any means necessary.

  70. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter

    We commute an hour twice a day. So do many suburbanites. Husband always works 6 10-12 hours a day. What bothers me is the school’s idea parents and children have nothing else to do but homework and projects.

    That it’s more important than repairing the house or earning more money for the property taxes that support the school district.

    It makes us feel enslaved to the school. Who are the teachers to impose their work on us?

    Forgot. Schools don’t teach handwriting at all any more. Printing is taught in kindergarten and first grade but not after that year. Children eventually get embarrassed about the scribble scrabble and practice and teach themselves around 4th grade.

    Oh well, nothing we can do about it.

  71. Dissident says:
    @Steve Sailer

    How old was Steve in 1972 when he started following these statistics?

    13. I was starting high school debate.[…]

    In the spring of 1973 when I was 14,

    Would you mind sharing a photo or two of yourself from back then?

    That would make a nice complement to the photo of a younger you that has graced the right-hand column of this blog for as long as I can recall.

    (Incidentally, is the AOL email address given just under the aforementioned photo still the preferred one to use for general contact?)
    —————————-
    In education generally, perhaps it could be said that the Three R’s (Readin’, Ritin’, ‘Rithmetic) have been superseded by the Four B’s:
    Buggery (here used broadly to cover all forms of sexual degeneracy du jour and the worship of those who indulge in them)
    Blacks & Browns (sacralization of non-Whites/ vilification of Whites)
    Bitches (Feminism; The Matriarchy; female supremacy;feelz over reason and intellect; War on normative males and masculinity)

  72. Dissident says:
    @Lockean Proviso

    Lockean Proviso:

    although I did read World Book and car magazines with good attention, as well as paying attention to old Playboy magazines.

    Did you ever try reading any of the articles in Playboy?

    Who could have imagined the quaint nostalgia with which we would one day look back upon that iconic publication? Contrasted with the infernal abyss that the blessing of technology has since bestowed upon nearly every child, the Playboy that was once, for generations of adolescent boys, such a sought-after taboo, now seems so innocent, even wholesome.

    • Agree: Lockean Proviso
    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
  73. Anon[241] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    That was my point. Sorry I wasn’t clear.

    One in six whites have an IQ lower than 85, and overall one in five Americans are in that range. 85 is about the level that makes you unemployable in the 21st century. The type of jobs that 85ers can do no longer exist. You can’t even join the army. So half of blacks are unemployable, untrainable, and unremediable, almost by definition. This is an intractable problem, unacknowledged and taboo to speak of.

  74. @Dissident

    Playboy, at least back then, featured fertile-looking women who expressed enjoying the company of men. They were potentially bearers of children- and many did go on to have families. What was being imprinted on the impressionable was a healthy heterosexual sex drive towards fertile, healthy women.

    Now the ‘infernal abyss’ of porn highlights and promotes every form of anti-natality and anti family formation. The cultivation of a pre-pubescent (shaved, abnormally skinny, runaway) appearance, or freakish tattooed body-modified prostitute-appearing women, or older post-childbearing MILFs all emphasize non-fertile females, in the context of incest, adultery, abuse, or other situations not conducive to desirable pregnancy and a normal heterosexual couple. The depiction of release is widely presented to imprint desirable orgasm for males to be be anything but potentially inseminating, with facials, sodomy, etc– all designed to produce a Pavlovian response away from ejaculation inside a fertile, unrelated, consenting, and healthy young woman’s birth canal as has been normally desired for millennia. Young men have reportedly been trained to seek out reenactment of this carefully staged sexual propaganda, as women have recently expressed frustration with their desires for anything and everything but the real thing. Now there is a new push towards trannies and shemales- again to imprint alternatives to normal and generative heterosexuality.

    There is a clear agenda to dissuade young men from being attracted to young white women and having desires that lead to replacement fertility. It is all part of the same well-planned war of attrition and discouragement of white people that has been waged on many fronts. Deprogramming young men from this agenda is important.

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