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“Okay, let’s do some jokes!”

Via iSteve commenter Harry Baldwin.

 
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  1. It’s satire, but is it?

  2. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    It’s even better in tweet form, IMO.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • LOL: Tusk, TWS, trelane
    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    , @TWS
  3. J.Ross says: • Website

    Huffington Post nearly acknowledges what iSteve readers already knew about the Parkland shooting:
    https://www.huffpost.com/highline/article/parkland/

    Over the previous two years, Eden had focused on school discipline. The Obama administration had embarked on a major effort to address the “school-to-prison pipeline”—the glaring racial disparity in school suspensions and expulsions, which is a major contributor to an even more glaring racial disparity in America’s prisons. Eden believed the reforms had plunged schools like his mother’s into chaos and saw the reformers themselves as members of a “social justice industrial complex.” “As more money flows to ‘woke’ conferences and training programs,” he would write, “school district leaders have increasingly learned that the fastest path to career advancement is to produce fake statistical progress for minority students while passionately decrying privilege and institutional racism.”

    In 2013, Broward had launched an arrest- and suspension-diversion program called PROMISE that became a national model for reformers. Many believed it had even helped inspire the Obama administration’s own efforts. And when Eden tangled with reform advocates online, asking them to show him where the new policies were working, they always pointed to Broward.

    Of course, the article is primarily about how ugly he is for uglily pointing out these ugly facts, but it still let through these shafts of light.

  4. Johnny789 says:

    Uh huh. Also, when these poor misunderstood terrorists racistly receive the Death Penalty we must insure that they receive the franchise to vote whether they’re actual citizens or not.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
  5. JimDandy says:

    In addition to the tragic backlash against Muslims, among the millions of Americans who died during such a nuclear attack, a small number of them would, tragically, be Muslim.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  6. Norm’s still got that puffy medicated look. Anti-depressants? The sympathy is probably keeping him from being completely blackballed. If he were ripped and doing MMA while making comments like that, he’d probably “never work in this town again.”

  7. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    OT:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/23/upshot/2020-democrats-court-renters.html

    Renters Are Mad. Presidential Candidates Have Noticed.

    Democrats court a new voting bloc: people who don’t own homes.
    Emily Badger

    By Emily Badger

    ctrl-F “immi”-crickets

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @El Dato
  8. Are they that stupid??? Off with their heads!
    What is with these asian broads? Send them back!

  9. Ibound1 says:

    The more of them, the less safe for us.
    That is a simple truth
    But we are not allowed to notice “them”, “us”, “more” or “less” or “safe”.
    “The of the for” is the sentence you are left with. And that is pretty much the incoherence of response after every attack.

  10. guest says:

    The sort of thing at which Norm excels.

  11. @Anonymous

    When I did my last big Sailer Strategy analysis of 2012 exit polls to see if my 2004 finding that marriage still was the big predictor of who voted for whom, the only thing that came close to predict voting for Romney compared to being married was owning a home.

    • Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager
    , @res
  12. Anonymous[211] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Israel to name a town in the Golan after Trump (via Gilad Atzmon):

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-usa-golan/israel-to-name-new-town-on-golan-after-trump-netanyahu-idUSKCN1RZ1QQ?fbclid=IwAR0uGZ3CKt9mj2yPCXbYylVJj-KwY1dkXDCMc0q0QIYSx5ctIw4EBPlliLM

    Atzmon has a few suggestions for a name: “Kfar Kushner, Kiryat Donald, Jerusatrump, Kiblitz, Neoconstein.”

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    , @Dave Pinsen
  13. @J.Ross

    “As more money flows to ‘woke’ conferences and training programs,” he would write, “school district leaders have increasingly learned that the fastest path to career advancement is to produce fake statistical progress for minority students while passionately decrying privilege and institutional racism.”

    This reminds me of Maoism, where the ideology was clearly insane, but they kept touting this odd model commune where everything seemed to work as imagined. I don’t think there ever was one school where “addressing the school-to-prison pipeline” worked, so clearly all the “studies” are based on lies and fake statistics. It’s also not possible for any sane person on the ground implementing it not to notice from day one that it’s not working and never going to work. But they keep pushing it. I feel lucky that there’s no famine (yet).

    • Agree: jim jones
  14. Lot says:

    Dear President Trump: Ramp up the China tariffs like you promised already. We don’t need their plastic junk anyway. We already have too much stuff, and despite the whining from the business lobby, the first round didn’t do a thing negative to our record breaking economy.

    Did anyone notice prices of things go up the past year? In reality, most Chinese products can also be made in the USA or elsewhere in Asia.

    Today’s news:

    “WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A former engineer and a Chinese businessman have been charged with economic espionage and conspiring to steal trade secrets from General Electric Co to benefit China, according to an indictment unsealed by the U.S. Justice Department on Tuesday.

    The indictment against the former GE engineer, Xiaoqing Zheng, and Chinese businessman Zhaoxi Zhang, comes after Zheng was initially charged in August in connection with the alleged theft. It marks the first time the U.S. government has formally said the scheme was carried out to benefit China and that the Chinese government provided “financial and other support.”

    According to the indictment, Zheng stole the proprietary data on GE’s turbine technology by encrypting the files on his computer and secretly embedding them into a digital photograph of sunset before emailing the photograph to his personal email.“

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Alfa158
  15. @Anonymous

    It might be a very smart strategy for Trump, in case President Harris tries to get him with the full might of the deep state and have him arrested and imprisoned. There will be one country where he will be welcome, no matter how bad the situation in the US gets.

    • Replies: @DCThrowback
  16. @Dave Pinsen

    You would have to have Down Syndrome to think there would be backlash against peaceful Muslims.

  17. @Johnny789

    “we must insure that they receive the franchise to vote whether they’re actual citizens or not”….because of “our democracy.” It’s kind of like “what will our grandkids think of us?”

  18. @Steve Sailer

    owning a home

    More accurately stated as “having a mortgage”.

  19. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Chrisnonymous

    He’s 59 years old. He looks pretty good for that age. IRL, most 59 year olds aren’t ripped like 29 year old MMA fighters.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  20. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Anonymous

  21. @J.Ross

    But it’s a GOOD loophole that allows bad people to buy guns!

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  22. El Dato says:
    @Anonymous

    Democrats court a new voting bloc: people who don’t own homes.

    Didn’t those get holographically causte’d in 2008 by the wolves of Freddy & Fanny?

  23. Anonymous[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Did anyone notice prices of things go up the past year?

    I don’t know. Did they or not?

    In reality, most Chinese products can also be made in the USA or elsewhere in Asia.

    What point are you making here? Can they be made at the same price?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
  24. A butler knows naught but to butle;
    A cuttlefish knows how to cuttle;
    A pissant knows pee,
    And be sure to see
    Norm Macdonald for humor that’s subtle!

  25. @J.Ross

    Oh no. Not the “school-to-prison pipeline,” one of the most ridiculous liberal fantasies. They like to imagine such a thing exists.

    The way to show them they’re full of it is anytime anyone mentions any crime by a minority, excuse it by citing this imaginary entity. Should the guy who threw the kid off a floor at the Mall of America be punished? No way! Because the school-to-prison pipeline! Should that guy who shot the 2-year-old in Baltimore go to jail? Definitely not, unless you want to bolster the “school-to-prison” pipeline! And so on…

  26. @Dave Pinsen

    I didn’t realize he was that old, but I still think he looks puffy. I don’t follow him, but I recall seeing him for the first time in years a while back, and his appearance, speech, and manner had changed drastically.

  27. @Days of Broken Arrows

    Apparently the only pipeline that never leaks.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  28. @reiner Tor

    The Party line is always correct, so there can be only one cause for failure of the glorious Revolution: SABOTAGE! Rout the saboteurs, and hey presto!, problem solved.

    iSteve commenters better be watching their backs; there’s a strong whiff of the kulak ’round here.

  29. DCThrowback says: • Website
    @reiner Tor

    presidents are loathe to lock up prior presidents lest they also get locked up

  30. Pericles says:
    @Oleaginous Outrager

    The problem is it does leak. We, as a society, need to fix this!

  31. slumber_j says:

    “I can’t say my friend’s name…”

    I’m guessing Jim Downey.

    Anyway, I don’t know who the humorless guest is, but that’s a pretty funny problem for a comedian to have.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  32. @Days of Broken Arrows

    Oh no. Not the “school-to-prison pipeline,” one of the most ridiculous liberal fantasies. They like to imagine such a thing exists.

    In a way it does exist, but not in the causative sense that they’re claiming.

    We warehouse lots of kids who aren’t really learning due in large part to their aptitude (for the purpose of keeping them sequestered for some portion of the day), and that includes lots of kids with behavioral problems, and behavioral problems that cross the line into criminality. While they’re in school and technically juveniles, some effort is expended excusing their behavior and dismissing criminality as mere discipline problems. Once they’re of majority age and out of school they wind up in the criminal justice system . . . because they already have patterns of criminal conduct which was heretofore disguised.

    By “school-to-prison pipeline” they’re scrutinizing the reporting of criminal conduct by students, urging even more leniency while reversing the causation – it’s the pattern of criminal conduct itself and not the reporting of it which is the gateway to prison for these kids.

    As with anything, the solution is to increase spending on education (featherbedding for public school teachers and their Unions).

  33. @Oleaginous Outrager

    And the privilege of paying property taxes directly.

  34. TWS says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    If that doesn’t deserve my one ‘lol’ every ten hours I don’t know what does.

  35. TWS says:
    @J.Ross

    This case every law enforcement agency and every administrative agency involved were criminally negligent.

    The FBI, Broward county sheriff, and school district admin need to be sanctioned. Jail time for all supervisors and above who made decisions on this case that led to death.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  36. kihowi says:

    She isn’t as clueless as people in this thread think. You can see her start to laugh at the end in the wide-eyed “I’m laughing at something outrageous” kind of way.

    It’s pretty unlikely that any professional comedian, no matter female, would not get irony. Especially from a man whose comedy she must have been familiar with for decades.

  37. @TS

    How do you pick up jewish girls?

    With a tweezer?

  38. @Chrisnonymous

    Norm’s still got that puffy medicated look. Anti-depressants?

    Too much poutine? He’s from Quebec City after all.

    How’s his French?

    Now, here’s fusion:

    General Tao poutine from François Chartier

    Anyone in Rochester do an Asian garbage plate?

    • Replies: @Mister.Baseball
    , @Anon87
  39. @J.Ross

    In the end it was not a story about declining (disappearing?) school discipline, and its role in thousands of little tragedies; it was about this one big tragedy, and it hewed to the idea that everything Cruz did was “minor” and waved past the obvious commonsense retort that in some of our lifetimes, even in schools of pretty indifferent quality such as I attended a couple generations ago, none of his behavior would have been business-as-usual; and there would have been no keen interest, perhaps no thought at all, of sanitizing and disguising records, his or the school’s.

    Still, as a story about this terrible event it comes about as close as we’ll ever again see a media outlet (the New Yorker so ventured once years ago, but wouldn’t now, I imagine) admit what generally cannot be said, even after the Sandy Hook massacre featured an almost identical perpetrator – a severely mentally disturbed individual (“autism,” whatever is now meant by that, is attributed in both these cases) is often at the center of these things, and we pretend they are harmless and belong in school at our children’s actual peril, at least until, as a society, we move past this morbid gun-craziness, and then I guess people can pretend whatever they want.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  40. ic1000 says:

    In the spirit of Norm MacDonald’s troll, here is CBS This Morning hard-bitten reporter Elizabeth Palmer, on the scene in Sri Lanka, sharing the latest breaking news on the terror attacks there.

    “Immediately before Sri Lanka Bombings, there were warnings.” 2 min 33 sec video.

    Almost the entire report is taken up by Palmer’s concern that the extremists’ actions will create problems for the Muslim community. That a bunch of somebody-or-others got blown up could lead to a backlash, and Palmer found plenty of Muslims to weigh in on that imminent danger.

    Neither Ms. Palmer nor the CBS anchors got the joke.

  41. @Alec Leamas

    The saddest bit is that most of these kids are not especially stupid or misbehaved. But a few of them are and that ruins these schools for everyone there, sweeping them all down the pipe.

  42. The real threat of Muslim “Americans” is that they can come to America….breed….and enthusiastically vote the Historic Native Born White Christian American Majority Working Class into a White Racial Minority within the borders of America……..This always was the nuclear option for the Democratic Party…..

    Chinese “American” Federal Judges have made it impossible to halt all Muslim Legal Immigration to America….because to do so is racist and this violates the equal protection clause………..Voting Whitey into a White racial minority within the borders of America is not racist and therefore does not violate the equal protection clause of the Constitution…..

    BRING BACK THE 1872 CHINESE LEGAL IMMIGRANT EXCLUUSION ACT!!!!

    • Agree: MBlanc46
  43. @J.Ross

    The opportunistic path to public school improvement via paperwork and standardized tests graded by temps at $10.40 per hour is tied to school funding, even though it has been an abject failure.

    Past efforts to improve schools mostly involved empty sloganeering and paperwork, giving politicians the chance to say they did something about public school failure through another Best-in-Class Teacher program, even as they made clear in campaign season after campaign season that public schools were getting worse, not just academically. Now, they have to worry about a mass school shooting every five minutes.

    That school violence is not due to the lackluster academic programs. Nor is it due to the way that non-intellectual teachers make public schools less than great. If the violence is contained via facial-recognition technologies, it’ll be a great thing.

    But public secondary schools will likely remain land mines of social decay and daily, dreaded misery for many of the students. In some cases, academic performance is related to the brutal social backdrop of public schools, including the Wild West of harsh bullying that conservatives want to reduce to snowflake syndrome, even though the peer-to-peer humiliation parade in public schools is incredibly distracting to many students of all IQ levels.

    Possibly in addition to the home lives of some of the shooters in this era of daycare-raised kids, the causal factor behind the epidemic of school violence is the schools’ brutal social dynamics. Because the viscous social scene in public schools does not arise just due to money, most of the mass school shooters have not been from low-income minority families.

    The low-income Black kids go on to commit more violent crimes when they leave school, specifically the males entering the brutal churn-gig economy without the cushion of monthly welfare that covers their major household bills and refundable child tax credit cash up to $6,431.

    It is the middle and upper-middle-class white kids who do most of the mass school shootings. They have the double pressure of a high-and-mighty expectation for academic success and the requirement to navigate all of that crushing social-cesspool stuff that goes on in the public secondary schools.

    Other than the face-ID apparatus that might protect schools from letting some of the potential shooters enter, Uncle Sam’s answer to the awful public school social environment will be more programs to help working moms avoid doing the work of raising their own children, even though parents cultivate their kids’ morality in a way that no $10-per-hour daycare worker will ever try to do. Parents have more incentive to do that since things like school shootings reflect on them.

    To address the academic performance failures, the answer from government will be more Outstanding Teachers (paperwork hoop-jumping) Programs and more No Child Left Behind “by any other name” (standardized-testing) Programs.

    Never mind that the strong teachers are not usually the ones willing to jump through all of the bureaucracy’s stupid paperwork hoops. The teachers who thrive on climbing the ladder via paperwork are usually the most money-minded and calculating of the overwhelming majority of America’s teachers who choose teaching as “a good job for moms since it provides a stable second income while letting them be at home with their own kids in the summer.”

    Most of the teachers who are motivated to go into it due to the love of the subject that they teach want more control over their own classroom. They don’t want Big Government telling them how to communicate every little thing. That takes the creativity out of the job, stripping it of any value it has for its own sake.

    The few “high-energy,” effective teachers often have fewer discipline problems since the kids respect them more. Those teachers know how to deliver a lecture that isn’t boring, mostly because they have actually done a lot of reading beyond what is required to get through the FOED ciricculum, and they would be interested in their subject whether or not they were teachers.

    Kids aren’t as stupid as adults think; they can see through an opportunistic second-income chaser. They know most primary & secondary school teachers are just getting though the day for the sake of a secure government job.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
  44. Alfa158 says:
    @Lot

    There was an announcement a few years ago that the Chinese would purchase GE turbines in exchange for GE supplying them with the technology to build their own. I thought at the time it was basically a backdoor way for GE to offshore their production and reduce costs, thus boosting their margins.
    Apparently then, GE was not supplying all their technology, so the Chinese helped themselves.

    I once worked at an electronics company in a segment that Ron Unz would recognize. One of our native Chinese engineers would silently mock the cluelessness and indifference of “American” managers to industrial espionage by occasionally wearing his People’s Liberation Army web belt with the red star buckle. I suspect everything we developed was being immediately transferred to China.

  45. Alfa158 says:
    @Anonymous

    Modern manufactured products have had the labor man-hours largely engineered out of them. They can be made at the same cost elsewhere in Asia and developing countries. They can also made in the US and sold at the same price, but at somewhat higher cost and therefore lower profit.
    There is a plethora of reasons why they aren’t, but it would take a whole separate article to go into that.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Grace Jones
  46. notanon says:

    norm is a one man 4chan

  47. Yoopy says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    Norm’s still got that puffy medicated look. Anti-depressants?

    He’s fallen off the entertainment map since his Netflix debacle. Almost complete radio silence for the first time in his career, such as it is.

    His background is sketchy. He seems to have admitted to alcohol problems in the past, but claims he’s stopped. He’s got a humungous gambling problem that he seems to try to keep in check.

    Because of his gambling issues, he’s blown most of the significant amount of money he made throughout his career, and consequently is living in a condo behind the Grove in Los Angeles. I seem to recall his mother either lives in the same building, or down the street from him.

    I guess his new Netflix series looked like his ticket out of the condo, so when all hell broke loose, it probably scared the shit out of him. He got real quiet, real quick.

    I suspect he’s manic depressive, which would explain all his bizarre gambling exploits, and his “puffiness,” might be due to prescribed medications. It’s apparently very hard to find something that works without ugly side effects.

    Some of those SSRI drugs are extremely strong stuff. They all give you brain damage over time, so prolonged use isn’t a great idea if you depend on your brain to generate cash. The logic behind it is it’s better to take the drugs than the subject killing himself. And it’s not that they might give you brain damage. They do give you brain damage, and you’ll pay the price for prolonged use.

    If he keeps it up, you can bet on Norm getting early onset Alzheimer’s, or some variation. You read it here, first.

    I hope he starts recording more shows for Netflix. Since the fall of Louis CK, we’ve about run out of satirists. It’s not healthy for a society to not have them, imo.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
  48. dearieme says:
    @Alfa158

    That’s pretty much how the USA imported the Industrial Revolution.

  49. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alec Leamas

    While they’re in school and technically juveniles, some effort is expended excusing their behavior and dismissing criminality as mere discipline problems.

    What’s the difference between criminality and discipline problems?

  50. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfa158

    Thank you. Very interesting.

    There is a plethora of reasons why they aren’t, but it would take a whole separate article to go into that.

    Could you point us to some reading that discusses some of those reasons?

    • Replies: @Romanian
  51. @Alec Leamas

    A fair percentage of young men, say 12-18 years old, have no business in any kind of traditional school. They need to be a in an athletic or work camp that exhausts them physically. They can learn trades, skills, and sports (music too?) along with the necessary academics to succeed in those areas. Having them sit in classrooms all day is helping no one. They won’t learn and they keep other kids from learning anything.

    Perhaps later in their lives they’ll be ready for classroom work, but forcing the issue during the teen years is a total waste of everybody’s time and money.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  52. Anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfa158

    One of our native Chinese engineers would silently mock the cluelessness and indifference of “American” managers to industrial espionage by occasionally wearing his People’s Liberation Army web belt with the red star buckle.

    What was his motivation in wearing the belt? Did he wish the American managers exercised greater oversight, or was he engaged in espionage himself?

    Why do you put “American” in quotes?

  53. res says:
    @Steve Sailer

    the only thing that came close to predict voting for Romney compared to being married was owning a home.

    Those two variables are probably highly correlated. By any chance did you try looking at them together? Perhaps by using a single four state variable rather than two binary variables? Would probably need to control for other variables though (e.g. urban, Democrat, children) as well.

    This looks like the definitive version of your 2012 analysis:
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/gops-2012-problem-was-not-enough-white-votes/
    Were there any others?

    It is interesting to contrast your work with the Pew version:
    https://www.pewresearch.org/2012/11/07/pew-research-centers-exit-poll-analysis-on-the-2012-election/

    P.S. The Reuters links in your 2012 article are dead now. Here is the current link to the Polling Explorer:
    http://polling.reuters.com/
    The 2012 polls are at
    http://polling.reuters.com/#!response/CP5_1/type/smallest/dates/20120105-20121124/collapsed/false

    But I don’t see the large sample Reuters-Ipsos exit poll there. Any idea if that data is accessible anywhere? I tried the Wayback Machine, but that was not helpful.

    Given the Polling Explorer interface I think the thing to do would be to compare all 4 cases of Married/All (5 states in all) vs. Rent/Own.

    P.P.S. One nit about your quote at the start of this comment. White was more predictive of a Romney vote than either Married or Homeowner (58% vs. 57 vs. 55). Then there was Mormon at 86%, but that is a small sample with obvious reason for being an outlier.

  54. theMann says:
    @TS

    Bait a hook with some jewelry and cast into a Deli?

    Tell them ” uncircumcised is better”?

    Come on people cant be that hard to come up with a good one liner here.

  55. notanon says:
    @reiner Tor

    and never going to work

    it’s worse than not working.

    say you have a school where black kids are 13% of the students but 50% of the bullies – imposed parity in discipline forces the teachers to let them get away with it which makes the violence much worse.

  56. notanon says:

    school-to-prison pipeline

    impulsively violent person at 13
    to
    same impulsively violent person at 22

  57. @stillCARealist

    They belong on the African savannah.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
  58. @Reg Cæsar

    He doesn’t know French but he knows Latin:

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  59. jb says:

    MacDonald’s joke is brilliant, but the clip is at least 18 months old, and I’ve seen it before. In fact I could swear I saw it via iSteve!

    False memory?

  60. @TS

    With a dust pan and a broom.

  61. @Yoopy

    His book, Based on a True Story, was a bestseller. I listened to the audio book, read by Norm himself. It was very funny.

    See here’s where Steve should insert his little Amazon Associate’s link and make a little commission on sales of Norm’s book based on my favorable mention.

    • Replies: @Yoopy
  62. @Alfa158

    “One of our native Chinese engineers would silently mock the cluelessness and indifference of “American” managers to industrial espionage by occasionally wearing his People’s Liberation Army web belt with the red star buckle. ”

    Aww shucks; the business press simply calls this: “Brain Circulation” and then moves on.

  63. @TS

    “How do you pick up jewish girls?”

    Take them shopping?

  64. Romanian says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    If you will allow me to give it a stab, the reasons why production does not migrate back to the consumer markets once labor costs are no longer so important are pretty varied:
    – Very low transport costs – there was an article two years ago about a tanker being as cheap to rent as a Ferrari per day (without crew and fuel). There is a glut on the market and freight costs are low;
    https://www.businessinsider.com/cheaper-to-rent-oil-tanker-than-ferrari-2016-1
    – The existence of concentrated supply chains – China and other countries brought so much of the production locally, that it allows for really fast prototyping and a hub-like quality to the industrial area where a lot of the parts of your product get made. Why be the schmuck who moves to the US? – This is obviously a coordination problem made worse by companies considering themselves systems integrators and outsourcing as much of the work as possible to other entities. It’s one of the reasons why Silicon Valley has not been killed by working over the Internet;
    – Until recently, you would not count on the US to keep your products out, but you could count on the Chinese to do so if you did not produce with them;
    – If they already have your tech, know how and client book, you can stomp off if you like, but the Chinese can replace you by undercutting you with your clients. You can either make your money for a few more years, or go out of business now;
    – Political risk – you do not know what kind of radical environmental or labor package will pass in a Western country. If an East Asian government promises you a certain regulatory framework, it will stick to it much better. Sure, they might have other risks like nationalizations and so on, but those are theoretical until they happen. The most recent nationalizations were in the West;
    – Herd mentality.

    • Agree: Lot
    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  65. @J.Ross

    The “School-to-Prison Pipeline” cliche is a near-perfect encapsulation of Leftist thinking. According to this metaphor, blacks have no choice, free-will, or moral agency. They are just a commodity flowing from Point A to B via a device manufactured by white people.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    , @J.Ross
  66. @reiner Tor

    This reminds me of Maoism, where the ideology was clearly insane, but they kept touting this odd model commune where everything seemed to work as imagined.

    I am reading Tombstone an iSteve recomended book about the 30+ million who starved to death during Mao’s Great Leap Forward.

    Mao was insane, but his insane ideas, such as backyard smelting, were amplified all the way down the chain, and -any- criticism was ruthlessly punished by ostracism, beatings, and death. Mao cashiered a guy who had been with him for 30 years because of some fairly gentle suggestions the guy made.

    We are on the same road.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    , @reiner Tor
  67. @Romanian

    Good points all. Well said.

    • Replies: @Romanian
  68. Anon87 says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yeah, the Pu Pu Platter.

    Most diners or local “Hots” has a variation on it. There are a few trendy ones, but I honestly have not seen an Asian plate.

  69. Forbes says:
    @Days of Broken Arrows

    Seeing how literally every child goes to school, the school-to-prison pipeline is a tautology.

    In other words, a meaningless sentiment.

  70. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Hypnotoad666

    Excellent, and it’s only deepened when we consider what they want instead: a pipeline leading from federally proctored public schools to antifa-incubating universities.

  71. J.Ross says: • Website
    @TS

    The ones you’d have trouble lifting are not the ones you’re looking for.

  72. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Savage Indifference

    Discipline or none, it is objectively non-controversial that Cruz was a 100% known quantity, and he was out and about because of Scott Israel wanting to have his picture taken with Democratic party leadership.
    Could Cruz have been “saved” by much earlier discipline in a totally different environment? I don’t know. He was an orphan with neurotic parents. I don’t see that ending well in any school district. What was avoidable was opting to not enforce existing law.

  73. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Redneck farmer

    Not following; the “loophole” here was the entire local law enforcement apparatus gone fishing.

  74. notanon says:
    @TS

    be high IQ rough trade

  75. @Jim Don Bob

    Frank Dikotter’s Mao’s Great Famine is the book to read on that subject. Totally dispassionate and utterly devastating.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  76. Moses says:

    Good one Norm. I think it went right over her head.

  77. @Alfa158

    Once, I saw a chart showing the proportion of the total cost of plastic parts that our labor represented. It was only 4-8%, yet they still tried to chisel by sending the machines to Mexico and China.

  78. What do a brick and a fat white woman have in common?

  79. @Mister.Baseball

    Mike Myers just wrote a book titled simply Canada.

    I’d love to see Norm’s version.

  80. Yoopy says:
    @Percy Gryce

    I really tried to read that book. Best to avoid the thing, unless you’re a rabid fan of his.

    Seemed like it was created with a publisher’s gun to Norms head.
    Very sloppy, and supremely self-indulgent.

    Norm’s a brilliant satirist. Writing books ain’t his thing.

  81. @Endgame Napoleon

    The few “high-energy,” effective teachers often have fewer discipline problems since the kids respect them more. Those teachers know how to deliver a lecture that isn’t boring, mostly because they have actually done a lot of reading beyond what is required to get through the FOED ciricculum, and they would be interested in their subject whether or not they were teachers.

    To respectfully disagree, that wasn’t my experience. The number 1 way to control discipline was to have a sterile classroom full of rote procedures. That’s what the most effective (read, teachers with fewest discipline problems) did, and ‘high energy’ and ‘a lot of reading beyond …’ had nothing to do with it.

    I wasn’t in the ghetto, but I wasn’t in a lily white district either, so I’m not sure how my experience really relates. But the days of ‘fun teachers’ or even ‘teachers who make learning fun’ are dead at the middle school level. And mostly at high school too, at least until 11th grade or so when it dawns on the kids graduation is based on a credit system.

    Teachers are pretty well paid, and have pretty good benefits. When a job like that is ‘always looking for good people,’ it tells you something.

  82. @Percy Gryce

    All three books of his Mao trilogy (only about the events after 1945) are highly recommended.

  83. @Jim Don Bob

    With the anarcho-tyranny, it’s getting worse by the day, too. Take a look at this:

    Maybe it can’t happen in the US (though I think hormones administered without parents’ knowledge or consent can and does happen, but maybe there’s no gag order enforced by the government on them), but I’m sure it can later happen in all Western countries (including Australia and New Zealand).

  84. Brutusale says:
    @Oleaginous Outrager

    Yep. The Democrats are about promising educations, jobs, and homes to people who didn’t earn them.

  85. Brutusale says:
    @TS

    It’s been a while, but when I was trolling the Jewish coeds at my 40% Jewish college, the key to getting into Jewish panties was not being Jewish.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  86. @Brutusale

    What was that joke now?

    “Jewish foreplay: begging.”

  87. @Father O'Hara

    I didn’t say that or mean that.

    My own brother was one of these types. He was no student, at least not at the pace that the schools wanted. But he could learn a skill and run his own little business. He should have quit school at 16 and gone straight to training and work.

    What’s with the savanna nonsense? I guess you’re making a joke, but non-students are a real and large part of our schools. And they’re all colors and both sexes.

  88. Norm’s best bit. One of the funniest things I have ever seen.

  89. @Mis(ter)Anthrope

    What do a brick and a fat white woman have in common?

    I give up. What do a brick and a fat white woman have in common?

  90. @slumber_j

    Anyway, I don’t know who the humorless guest is

    Margaret Cho

  91. @Mis(ter)Anthrope

    Both will eventually be laid by a Mexican.

  92. Romanian says: • Website
    @Jim Don Bob

    I try to give back to the people from whom I learn so much 🙂

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