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So I finally got a picture of myself at my new weight of 175 pounds, down from the 220 pounds I spiked up to in 2015 during Merkel’s Million Muslim March. I appreciate you putting up with my stepping away from the keyboard long enough to walk a few miles per day. I hope to be in this for the long run, which being 220 was not conducive towards.

Thanks to everybody who contributed so far to the August iSteve fundraiser.

August is one of the three months of the year (along with December and April) when I hassle you for donations. I sometimes find myself discouraged, but then my loyal readers chip in with cash in its manifold forms, which I find highly encouraging. Say not the struggle nought availeth.

Large or small, I find each to be a personal message of encouragement to keep doing what I’m doing. I more or less figured out the basic logic of the 21st Century, which hasn’t made me popular, but with your support I can keep on keeping on pointing out how the world works.

I haven’t taken a new picture of myself, but I’m down to 6’4″ and 175 pounds. Honest!

I’ll soon prove it to you.

I peaked at 220 pounds in the fall of 2015 during Merkel’s Mistake. That was a wake-up call that no matter how insane Respectable World Leaders are acting, I can’t stop taking care of my health just because they aren’t worrying about the the well-being of their nations.

Here are eight ways for you to contribute to me, iSteve:

First: You can use Paypal (non-tax deductible) by going to the page on my old blog here. Paypal accepts most credit cards. Contributions can be either one-time only, monthly, or annual. (Monthly is nice.)

Second: You can mail a non-tax deductible donation to:

Steve Sailer

P.O Box 4142

Valley Village, CA 91617

Third: You can make a tax deductible contribution via VDARE by clicking here.

Please don’t forget to click my name at the VDARE site so the money goes to me:

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VDARE has been kiboshed from use of Paypal for being, I dunno, EVIL. But you can give via credit cards, Bitcoin, Ethereum and Litecoin, check, money order, or stock.

Note: the VDARE site goes up and down on its own schedule, so if this link stops working, please let me know.

Fourth: if you have a Wells Fargo bank account, you can transfer money to me (with no fees) via Wells Fargo SurePay/Zelle. Just tell WF SurePay/Zelle to send the money to my ancient AOL email address steveslrAT — replace the AT with the usual @). (Non-tax deductible.) Please note, there is no 2.9% fee like with Paypal or Google Wallet, so this is good for large contributions.

Fifth: if you have a Chase bank account (or even other bank accounts), you can transfer money to me (with no fees) via Chase QuickPay/Zelle (FAQ). Just tell Chase QuickPay/Zelle to send the money to my ancient AOL email address ( — replace the AT with the usual @). If Chase asks for the name on my account, it’s StevenSailer with an n at the end of Steven. (Non-tax deductible.) There is no 2.9% fee like with Paypal or Google Wallet, so this is also good for large contributions.

Sixth: send money via the Paypal-like Google Wallet to my Gmail address (that’s isteveslrATgmail .com — replace the AT with a @). (Non-tax deductible.)

Seventh: [Warning: Does this still work?] You can use Bitcoin using Coinbase. Coinbase payments are not tax deductible. Below are links to two Coinbase pages of mine. This first is if you want to enter a U.S. dollar-denominated amount to pay me.

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This second is if you want to enter a Bitcoin-denominated amount. (Remember one Bitcoin is currently worth many U.S. dollars.)

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If Coinbase isn’t working, what other Bitcoin intermediaries would you recommend? My goal is to not get audited by the IRS. The SPLC has been out to get me via the IRS for about 15 years, so I am fastidious about paying my taxes. For several years, Coinbase instantly transformed any Bitcoin donations into cash so I didn’t have to worry about the cost basis of capital gains on Bitcoin, but instead just reported income.

Eighth: At one reader’s request, I recently added Square as an 8th fundraising medium, although I’m vague on how it works. If you want to use Square, send me an email telling me how much to send you an invoice for. Or, if you know an easier way for us to use Square, please let me know.


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  1. Bill P says:

    175 lbs at 6’4″?

    You’re making me feel ashamed of myself. I’ve got 40 lbs on you at 6’1″.

    BTW, are you part Irish? You look like a healthier, non-alcoholic version of my half-Irish dad at that age.

    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
  2. CK says:

    You look fabulous simply fabulous, congratulations on the weight loss it is a hard row to hoe losing that much weight.

  3. Tank says:

    Good job on the weight and everything else. In addtion to the great info you present, you fill my life with more quiet, subtle laughs than anyone else. My check has surely reached you by now, and…money well spent and well deserved.

  4. BB753 says:

    Damn Merkel! Her Million Men March to Germany made you overeat out of stress and despair. Lesser men than you took to drinking! Lol!

  5. That’s some major weight loss – congrats! You’re looking good.

  6. Flip says:

    So low carb or vegan or just eating less?

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  7. rgm2020 says:

    Donation just sent. Thank you! rgm

  8. I can’t stop taking care of my health

    Sailer vs. Taylor earth-hump challenge!

    • LOL: Lot
  9. SFG says:

    Well, say what you will about right wing men, they do keep themselves in better physical condition than lefty guys.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  10. Running Is Easier Than Walking

    Steve, I used to walk a lot, but now I like running much better. I get more cardio benefit from it, and it takes up less of my time. I get less tired and sore from running shortish distances (about 2 or 3 miles, usually) than I used to get from walking longish distances. I usually go for around 40 or so minutes at a time, so I don’t need to carry bottles of water. What I do is mostly slow jogging, but I mix it up with intervals of sprinting sometimes.

  11. Zippy says:

    Walking is actually great, but you should augment that with some weight training as well. I’m a big fan of kettlebells because you get aerobic exercise and a bit of strength training as well.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Alden
  12. Congrats on the weight loss.

  13. OT:

    Jeffrey Epstein is dead. “Suicide.”

    • Replies: @Svigor
    , @Mr McKenna
  14. I dunno Steve, I always thought that whole BMI think was garbage. And I think studied have shown that being slightly overweight is better that being much thinner than average.

    As for myself, I’m at 227 (height 6’2”). I was a little over 240 at the beginning of summer, and I’m shooting for somewhere between 215-220, which should put me comfortably into a size 36. I wouldn’t go lower than that though. My wife likes me slightly bulky, and says that my brother (6’3” 180) is way too skinny.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Lot
    , @Anonymous
  15. Congratulations! I started on a diet and exercise regime just 4 days ago with the intention of getting down from 6’1″ and 240 lbs down to 190 lbs, which I actually accomplished about 5 years ago, but then regrettably fell by the wayside and relapsed.

    You are now officially my inspiration, along with the Grim Reaper.

    BTW news is coming out this morning that Epstein killed himself in his cell. A major blot on the record of the prison system, since he must surely have been on close suicide watch at the time after a prior attempt a few days ago.

  16. ferd says:

    More personal weight loss stories! This is a constant in life for so many of us. Just contributed.

  17. Shall we call you Twiggy now?

  18. gman says:

    How’d you lose the weight? Any tips?

  19. Ibound1 says:

    OT: looks like someone suicided Epstein.

  20. istevefan says:

    OT – how does one in custody, on suicide watch, commit suicide?

  21. @Jonathan Mason

    A very convenient suicide for many people, just like Jim McDougal’s death in federal custody.

  22. Anon[136] • Disclaimer says:

    Wait a minute. Did we ever get a picture of you at 220? How do we know that this whole diet thing is not fake news?

    I just searched Google Images for “Steve Sailer” and came up with this:

    Weight loss really has an aging effect!

  23. You need to remove

    I haven’t taken a new picture of myself, but I’m down to 6’4″ and 175 pounds. Honest!

    I’ll soon prove it to you.

    from your copy pasta.

  24. Indocon says:

    The background on Steve’s picture looks like the one on Obama’s presidential portrait.

    • Replies: @DoTheHusserl
  25. @istevefan

    Good question. I can only think that he had conned them into taking him off suicide watch.

    In the prison I used to work at, an inmate on suicide watch would have no personal possessions in his room, wear a skirt or “shroud” and have a special blanket and no sheets. They would be in a special cell that had no possibly anchor points for hanging self.

    They would also have a seated officer watching them in directly line of sight, with the flap in the door open, who had no other responsibilities at all, and who had to keep the inmate in direct line of sight at all times.

    Seeing that early reports are saying that Epstein was “found dead” in his cell, I would imagine that he had been taken off suicide watch prior to his death.

    In prisons the decision to have someone on suicide watch is made by a psychiatrist–often an independent contractor and not a prison employer–who will usually have psychologists or “psych specialists” doing most of the evaluation of the inmate and making recommendations.

    So the actual decision is usually a “clinical” or medical decision and not one made by the Chief of Security within the facility. Being a clinical decision, it might not take into account the peculiar circumstances of the case and the charges as there is a fine line between suicide watch and punishment.

    Another motive, perhaps the main motive, for ending suicide watch would be financial. One-to-one observation is extremely expensive in terms of overtime for officers, plus causing exhaustion in employees working 12 or 16 hour shifts, so there is a subtle pressure not to extend suicide watches unnnecessarily.

    Having said all that, it was pretty obvious to anyone who followed the Epstein case that he would be a very high risk of suicide.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
  26. @Bill P


    But Jeffrey Epstein just “killed himself.”

    Huh. (I guess the back-up plan for Jack Ruby, Jr. was not needed. Or was it?)

    Lots and lots and lots of very rich and powerful people all over the world are now breathing easier, not to mention Epstein’s intelligence handlers.

  27. @istevefan

    “Suicide watch” means they watch while you off yourself.

    Alternatively it means assisting your escape to Tel Aviv while disguised as Lena Dunham.

    • Replies: @Alden
  28. Bring back the beard. Will suit you in this form.

  29. Svevlad says:

    Now, to complete the loop, go back to 220…

    But with muscle! Critics will be spooked by that alone.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  30. You look good, man, but do not go any further. BTW walking is very good, and I am glad that you are doing it. That is my exact same regimen. Congratulations to you for being healthy and good-looking!

    I am 6’2″ and now 200 lbs. I do not consider this heavy at my age (approximately yours). I worry that you are becoming too skinny. Do not become any lighter. I want you to write as long as I am alive.

    Salutations good Sir!

  31. @Jonathan Mason

    Holly Fidel Castor Oil!

    Uncle Sailer now looks like a hologram survivor.

    Why can’t he be more normal, like the rest of US ?

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  32. OFF TOPIC, But hilarious to a sick, jaded commenter: Mr. Jeff Epstein is dead. That is the headline, as if it is some big surprise.

    Yes, Jeffrey Epstein is now dead, for your information. That is the end of the story. LOL. L-fucking-O-L! As if we didn’t see this coming.

    We can all go back to our regular programming now… (sorry to interrupt)

  33. Bruno says:

    6’4’ is tall for your age

    • LOL: Jonathan Mason
  34. All the best Steve. You look great! And, unlike Epstein, I’m certain you won’t “suicide” yourself!

  35. @SFG


    The states with the highest obesity rates are also the most Republican states.

    Yup. Right wingers keeping themselves in shape!

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    , @Barnard
    , @J.Ross
    , @Bill P
  36. Steve, you and I are the same age, and I think I understand the psychological age trigger of getting in shape. I’m down to 170 and look very fit compared to my office associates, and I’m only 5-9. At your 6-4 it sounds like you are back to your high school weight. For that, I’d have to get down to 135! Good work!

  37. Gordo says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    OFF TOPIC, But hilarious to a sick, jaded commenter: Mr. Jeff Epstein is dead. That is the headline, as if it is some big surprise.

    Yes, Jeffrey Epstein is now dead, for your information. That is the end of the story. LOL. L-fucking-O-L! As if we didn’t see this coming.

    We can all go back to our regular programming now… (sorry to interrupt)

    What did he fall off his yacht the Lady Ghislaine and it won’t be possible to conduct an autopsy?

  38. njguy73 says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Yes, Jeffrey Epstein is now dead, for your information. That is the end of the story. LOL. L-fucking-O-L! As if we didn’t see this coming.

    End of the story? Please. You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

    • Replies: @BB753
    , @Jonathan Mason
  39. Clyde says:

    You look Marvelous! as the old Saturday Night Live line went. Billy Crystal I think. You must be eating lots of rabbit food too. My opinion is walking will not do it alone for your weight loss. But well done! No matter how you did it.
    Be mindful of all drivers when you are out walking and cross intersections. Too many idiots and immigrants out there driving today. Plus people high on legal/illegal drugs. I practice this myself while out for a walk. I did 107 fast minutes today. I am lucky to have a public athletic field close by. I walk partly there and partly down neighborhood streets.

    On this pleasant Saturday morning I saw many others out there too. Walking for health and to keep the doctors away.

  40. I peaked at 220 pounds in the fall of 2015 during Merkel’s Mistake.

    More like the Polish Revenge.

    VDARE has been kiboshed from use of Paypal for being, I dunno, EVIL. 

    Gatekeepers who are gold club members.

    Keep up the good work.

  41. donut says:

    “Jeffrey Epstein dead from apparent suicide in Manhattan jail cell , FBI investigating”

    Gee , who would have thought it . But not to worry the FBI will get to the bottom of it .

    That canary couldn’t fly .

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
  42. OT

    Well, well! I never saw this one coming: Jeffrey Epstein has been found dead … of suicide no less …

    Jeffrey Epstein has died by suicide, sources say

    New York (CNN) Jailed multimillionaire financier and accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein has died by suicide, two law enforcement sources said Saturday, a day after a court unsealed new details of the claims against him.

    The Federal Bureau of Prisons confirmed Epstein’s death, saying he was found unresponsive in his cell at New York’s Metropolitan Correctional Center around 6:30 a.m. ET.

  43. jamie b. says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    A good way to destroy your shoulders.

  44. @Buzz Mohawk

    Interesting thing about walking as exercise.

    When I grew up in Arkansas, one of our neighbors was a famous architect (Fay Jones). He and his wife Gus were great people. They took one of my dogs to the vet ER twice and probably saved her life at least one of those times.

    Anyway, Fay had a heart attack when he was in his 50s. From that time and for the rest of his life he and Gus took a walk together every day.

    Fay died from his second heart attack, at the age of 83.

    A few years later, my mother ran across Gus and had an interesting conversation. Gus was the only one in her family who walked every day, and outlived her siblings by decades.

    Meanwhile, in the local retirement home, my mother used to see a former HS football coach in the gym every day at the age of 90.

    My mother walks every day. She is 90.

    Keep on walking, Steve, and live a long life.

  45. @Buzz Mohawk

    You seriously think this is the end of the story?

    This is only the beginning. This is the biggest catalyst for new conspiracy theories since a certain Dallas nightclub owner got himself a handgun.

  46. Alfa158 says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    I don’t think right wingers are any more fit either, but in fairness, some of the Reddest states have the highest percentage of Blacks. Alabama 26%, Mississippi 38%, South Carolina 28%. Lots of Blacks results in Whites having their noses rubbed in reality and voting Right, and also in lots of really enormous Black people skewing the obesity rates.

    • Agree: Kronos
    • Replies: @Kronos
  47. Barnard says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    This is the same stupid line people use talking about “Republican” states having high welfare use. You need to keep reading until you get to:

    The report notes that African American, latino, and rural communities are more likely to be obese.

    So all those black Republicans in Mississippi are driving up the obesity rate? There isn’t a relationship between political party registration and keeping yourself in shape.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    , @res
  48. @Jonathan Mason

    ‘…since he must surely have been on close suicide watch at the time after a prior attempt a few days ago…’

    He was a suicide risk — in a federal prison, in New York City.

    He die. Oh well. Ho hum. Move along.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  49. @Paleo Liberal

    “Fay Jones… and his wife Gus”

    How often did people mix up their names when they were introduced?

    • Agree: Lot, MEH 0910
  50. @Jonathan Mason

    “… it was pretty obvious to anyone who followed the Epstein case that he would be a very high risk of suicide.”

    Fixed that: “… it was pretty obvious to anyone who followed the Epstein case that he would soon die a violent and – for many powerful and resourceful organizations and individuals – convenient death.”

    • Agree: utu
  51. @Buzz Mohawk

    Nothing to see here folks. Move along please. No more talk of Pizzagate, Mossad connections, or any of that nonsense.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  52. Steve, thanks for keeping yourself healthy and handsome. Your voice is needed in this interesting time.

  53. @Colin Wright

    If the Babylonian network wants you dead you’re going to be dead.

  54. Congrats, man.

    I’ve lost 90 pounds over the last couple years, and I feel a lot better. Still want to lose more, but it feels weird to be in way, way better shape at 48, then I was back at, say, age 35. Like time is flowing backwards. But I’m not complaining.

  55. @Jus' Sayin'...

    I’m collecting mea culpas from people who made fun of my tin foil hat.

  56. @Buzz Mohawk

    It’s time to go ahead and accept that a whole lot of conspiracy theories are true. Even the normiest of the normie normies must be questioning their worldview today.

    I thought my view was cynical… but wow. It’s really that blatant.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  57. @bored identity

    Booking photo of a cisgendered male feminist.

    • Replies: @bored identity
  58. @Anonymousse


    my iphone X keeps suggesting the apparently common word “Catholic Church sexual abuse cases” in my autocomplete as I’m writing this!

    It usually autocompletes a single simple word or the rest of a word you’ve started typing? What in the literal hell?!? Wish I could post the screenshot here it’s so hard to believe.

    I’m seriously breaking out the tinfoil at this point

  59. “I appreciate you putting up with my stepping away from the keyboard long enough to walk a few miles per day.”

    Out of interest how many miles a day did you walk and did you couple this with any other changes?

    I need to lost a similar (or more) amount of weight. I did so 10 yrs plus ago and gradually put it all back during periods of ill health. I found it useful reading of accounts of guys who had lost weight and noticing the similarities in the stories of those who seemed to have things in common with me.

  60. BB753 says:

    Too many people implied. Too many people to silence.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  61. Can you post any discoveries you’ve made about losing weight or life through your journey to lose weight?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  62. With a title like “The New Me”, part of me was worried Mr. Sailer was going to announce he was “transitioning” and that we were all supposed to call zer “Cinnamon Sailer” or something.

  63. Antonius says:

    Has the weight loss helped your swing (swing speed, yardage, accuracy, consistency etc) in any significant way?

    • Replies: @Marty
  64. goatweed says:

    Ace and Instapundit both lift.

    You walk.

    They write about their experiences with exercise.

    Will you share your noticings about your health routine?


  65. @istevefan

    ”He had been taken off suicide watch before he killed himself, a person familiar with the matter told the AP. It wasn’t immediately clear when he was taken off suicide watch.”

    And yes, Mr. Sailer, I agree the best course of action for men over 50 who have lost a good deal of weight is to grow a beard over all the sagging, loose, liver-spotted neck skin.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
  66. @Barnard

    Of course there is no relationship between political party and health. That is not the point.

    What bugs me is the ad hominem type of arguments I sometimes see on this site, such as right-wing men being manlier or healthier, or right-wing women being prettier, etc. To be fair, left-wingers do the same crap as well. The truth is, some ethnic groups tend to be more liberal or more conservative. If one happens to like ladies of that ethnic group, one would find women of the corresponding political persuasion more attractive. For example, blacks. Latinas, Asians or Scandinavians are more likely to be Democrats. Southern belles or Guidettes or Mormons are more likely to be Republicans.

    Since my wife is from a Republican family, I will admit there are some VERY attractive Republican ladies.

    • Replies: @Anonymousse
  67. Are there any Trump supporters from a swing state willing to take a challenge?

    Would you lose 20 pounds for Trump?

    Here is my challenge, for the first Trump supporter from a swing state.

    I am a Madison, Wisconsin liberal. As swingy a swing state as you can get.

    I could stand to lose more than 20 pounds.

    Here is my challenge:

    1. We have a weigh in, honor system, tomorrow morning.
    2. The goal is for both of us to lose 20 pounds by November 1 of 2020.
    3. If you succeed and I fail, I vote for the candidate of your choice for President in 2020.
    4. If you fail and I succeed, you vote for the candidate of my choice.
    5. If we both succeed or both fail, tie, and we both vote however we please.

    Any takers?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Mr. Anon
  68. JackOH says:

    Lookin’ good, dude. There was a clothes guy (John Weitz?) who said the most important part of a man’s wardrobe is having weight proportionate to height.

    I’ve struggled off and on since my late 30s. Walking works. At around 45 minutes to an hour a day I would lose about a pound a week until I reached some new, lower equilibrium. Nope, I’m not doing that now, and it shows.

    Again, your writing suits America the Wobbly. I think you call your style “parodic”, and it really deserves a critic’s attention for its absence of stridency and self-righteousness. It’s an America, after all, where NPR talks about a new drug to combat obesity while you’re passing a billboard urging you donate to your local food bank to stamp out hunger.

    Steve, you’re America’s Noticer Laureate. What do you make of cigarette smokers being segregated in order to smoke for public health reasons, and, in my area, denied employment at some places because they are smokers.

    Anti-gun people, some of them, want gun ownership to be regarded as a public health concern.

    So, why isn’t the disproportionate crime rates of Blacks, reported at length on these pages by Paul Kersey, given due consideration as a public health concern where segregation from Whites may be one among many responses?

    (That’s not meant as an attitudinizing rhetorical question, either. I don’t actually know if there’s any relevant literature.)

    • Replies: @Svigor
  69. SafeNow says:

    back in the 70s a nutritionist name to Rena Wing managed to find people who had lost at least 30 pounds and kept it off for five years. she found a few thousand people. She asked them what the heck did you do…because they were outliers… the chances of sustaining a weight loss are so depressingly and frustratingly slim. so she had more humility than MDs would have. she asked. What the heck did you do? it turned out that the respondents were walking shuffling jogging the depressingly long distance of 25 miles per week. I am doing the above from memory but I think I have it about right. The MDs say park your car in a far parking space or take the stairs instead of the elevator. they are too low by an order of magnitude. The above also helps because it teaches the meaning of 400 calories. when you are about to have that 400 cal dessert you will think back of what it took to burn off the 400 cal and you are more likely to decide the dessert is not worth it. Asian-American? No worries…disregard the above… vegetables are your favorite food. Wish I were more like you.

  70. TS says:

    Handsome man, but too skinny! Hit those weights, chief!

  71. 175 and you are 6-4??? Are you serious right now?

    I’m 6’5″ and the only time I’ve ever been below 195 was when I had dysentery and even then I was 180. Your pic is of your face and frankly it doesn’t look thin enough to be carrying a 175 frame at your height.

    Right now I have been at 245-250 and am working through methods to lose the weight, but my goal is 205-210. I can’t conceive of getting much lower than that.

    I had a girlfriend back at that time of my lowest weight and she said what must be true of you: you have no ass anymore!

    Steve, have a cheeseburger! At 6-4? You need to be at least 15 pounds heavier.

    • Agree: Sean
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Lot
    , @Sean
  72. Congratulations on your loss. Smile.


    On another note,

    for the first time in my life, upon hearing about the passing of Mr Epstein, I am skeptical with barely a second thought.

    — skeptical of his passing

    — skeptical that it was by his or without coercion

    And deeply disappointed that we will not get to the bottom of what appears to have a nasty business all ’round.

    • Replies: @Alden
  73. Mr. Anon says:

    Too many people implied. Too many people to silence.

    Yes, and the example of Mr. Epstein’s “suicide” will serve to silence them.

  74. Mr. Anon says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    The weight loss is impressive. I could do to lose about the same amount you did, 45 lbs. Can you tell us the exercise and diet regimen you used? Any advice you have to offer would be appreciated. Thanks.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  75. @Paleo Liberal

    Liberal orthodoxy literally calls masculinity itself “TOXIC” and… people think self identified liberal men are not masculine!

    Crazy right?

  76. Mr. Anon says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    The FBI is on the case. I’m sure the G-Men will get down to the bottom of this. No worries.

  77. @International Jew

    Apologies. I should have watched the video first —
    There’s nothing to it.

  78. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:

    I haven’t taken a new picture of myself, but I’m down to 6’4″ and 175 pounds. Honest!

    This seems a little on the low side, for 6’4″. I second the suggestion that Steve explore some training with weights.

    Keep lifting, keep poasting Steve!

    Thank you for all you do.

    • Replies: @Alden
  79. anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    Sounds kinda light to me as well, but it’s BMI of 21.3. Probably evidence of how normalcy has shifted in the Age of Obesity. Also, being low carb can mean a good 5-8 lbs of less water weight due to reduced glycogen stockpile (which binds with water).

    I do know from lived experience that people questioning if you’re losing too much weight can be pretty annoying. Not from the disapproval of your new physique standpoint but the implicit suggestion that you must have an eating disorder.

  80. Svigor says:
    @Stan Adams

    Yeah, that didn’t take long. (((They))) didn’t even build any suspense first.

    He was murdered by International Jewry’s (rich sayanim + Mossad + Israeli Deep State + etc) proxy, of course.

  81. J.Ross says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    >being slightly overweight is better than being skinny
    You can prove this clinically but you’ll never prove it clitorally.

  82. tanabear says:

    Now that you’ve lost the weight you should start a deadlifting program and see how that effects you.

    • Replies: @Sean
  83. Svigor says:

    Anti-gun people

    You mean like the orange faggot?

    • Replies: @JackOH
  84. @Ginger bread man

    I know this question is addressed to Steve, but it is one that is close to my heart (and my coronary arteries) so I will offer a few thoughts.

    Some of this is a based on my own experience in losing weight from 240 lbs to 190 lbs about 5 years, ago, which weight I subsequently put back on again, but just started trying to lose a few days before Steve made this post.

    1. There is more bullshit published about weight loss than any other subject. This is no doubt due to the fact that there is a lot of money to be made due to so many people wanting to lose weight, especially women who want to lose weight and still eat a lot.

    2. The only way you can lose weight is by burning fat from your body. Ideally you could just go on a starvation diet like a political prisoner and just drink clear fluids and take a multivitamin pill daily. However there are a few problems with this:

    a) you cannot burn just fat, you will also burn some protein which means you will lose muscle, including possibly heart muscle, and you might die of a cardiac arrhythmia, which is not good.

    b) although the vitamin pill should take care of vitamin deficiencies, the body also needs electrolytes such as salt and potassium, and other trace elements otherwise the brain and heart and some other internal organs will stop functioning properly, which is not good. (Technically salt is a vitamin–a substance necessary to sustain life–although you will never hear it called a vitamin.)

    So if you just starve, you will die.

    3. The human body is always in one of two binary states: Either it is running on energy produced by the last meal you ate, or it is running on reserves. Only when it is running on reserves will you lose weight. So the longer you run on reserves after the last meal was digested, the more you will be in the weight losing mode.

    4. Unlike boxers trying to make weight for a fight, there is absolutely no point taking diuretics–medications that make you piss–to lose weight by losing water unless this is under the auspices of a person licensed to prescribe that medication, or by sweating it off.

    5. Wherefore (as lawyers like to say) it behooves a person to have a period of fasting every day of at least 12 hours during which time they are running on empty so as to lose weight.

    6. Wherefore the best way to lose weight is to embrace hunger for at least part of the day, and instead of thinking “I feel hungry, someone feed me a hamburger”, one should be thinking “I feel hungry, this means I am losing weight–let’s see how long I can do this.”

    7. After you have been doing this regime for a few days, your appetite will fall off and it will be much easier to continue.

    8. However, if you reach your target weight and start eating more normally again, you will rapidly put back on the weight. You will put the weight back on faster than you lost it.

    9. Here is the diet that has worked for me, if anyone is interested. It might not work for anyone else, but it was invented by me and it worked for me before, and by golly it will work for me again.

    a) First and last meal of the day is a milkshake made with kefir milk (I make it myself–which is very easy), powdered oatmeal (use an electric coffee grinder) and the fruit of choice, for example strawberries, blueberries. If no kefir milk available can use milk and yoghurt mixed. Right now I am using a concentrate of blackcurrants, but that is just a personal fad. If possible the first meal should be delayed in the morning and the last meal taken no later than 7 pm. So you do not go to bed feeling starving.

    b) The other main meal of the day is an entree, typically something like meatballs with red beans and rice with a little bit of sauce of choice, chicken nuggets and rice, meatloaf, chicken pot pie and green peas, maybe a small salad on the side. You can eat until you feel full, but no more, so that at least you are not hungry for part of the day. No dessert.

    c) Menu exclusion–on no account should you eat any bread, sugar, artificial sweetener, or potatoes in any form, root vegetables like carrots or sweet potatoes, or bananas. Plaintains are OK for main meal.

    d) No drinks with any nutritional value or calories should be drunk. My preference is for cold black or green tea with added mint (from my yard), but water is fine if that is your preference. When I was growing up in England everyone universally drank room temperature tap water with all meals other than breakfast, and nobody died from it or even complained about it.

    e) An occasional beer will not kill you, but stick to one, and definitely not more thant 2-3 a week.

    f) Get a bit of exercise. I cycle and swim a few laps to get the arms and legs moving.

    g) If you can do a total fast of fluids only, or just skip the main meal altogether on one day a week, this may accelerate your results.

    So the main points in summary:

    1. Eat less calories than you burn every day.
    2. Embrace hunger like a friend, and allow for some hours every day where you are burning fat reserves.
    3. Get a bit of exercise even if you are in a wheelchair.

    • Replies: @Former Trainer
    , @Anonymous
  85. Kyle says:

    I’ve never in my life wanted to weight less. I’m 5’11” 185 and I look very skinny, I don’t have any muscle mass. I’d like to be 200, but I’ve never been able to break 190.

  86. njguy73 says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    My mother started walking a mile a day when she was 65.

    She’s 80 now.

    I have no idea where the fuck she is.

    • LOL: donut
  87. res says:

    That was my initial reaction as well, but I thought it was worth checking further. I downloaded obesity data (combined obesity and overweight) by state and race for 2017 from
    and 2016 voting data from

    For the 50 states and DC, % 2016 Trump vote correlates 0.78 (!) with overweight and obesity rate. DC is a notable outlier for both values with 4.07% Trump vote and 42.5% obesity and overweight rate.

    Looks like Paleo Liberal’s snark was on target.

    • Replies: @Kyle
    , @res
  88. Kyle says:

    How is it possible that trump didn’t mandate constant video surveillance of Epstein in his cell? Thanks a lot mr president, you may as well be complicit. We live in a lawless society. For as many millions of ordinary americans wanted to keep this man alive, we aren’t organized enough to make it happen. We’re just peasants atrophied in our own rigid structure. Other groups are more organized than we are.

  89. Kronos says:

    Obesity is the gift that keeps on giving. Especially black obesity. I read Gary Taubes books on sugar and overall sugar is just bad. No nutritional value whatsoever.

    • Replies: @anon
  90. Sean says:

    Intractable back pain is how.

    You lose muscle as you get older so even if you are the same weight you were at 25 you have a lot more fat. When you lose weight you lose muscle and fat at the same time about 50/50. You cannot add muscle without also putting on fat.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  91. J.Ross says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    There are still a lot of working class people who rely on drive-through garbage. The one thing hipster types get right is food. I want to move to the country but I’ll never give up Trader Joe’s.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Alden
  92. goatweed says:

    Jonathan, can I eat dill pickles as a late night snack?

    Thanks, Kent

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  93. BB753 says:

    Now that we know that you eat less, us readers are gonna donate less money to you, since your grocery bill has gone down.

  94. @njguy73

    End of the story? Please. You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

    You have to wonder whether Epstein was a victim of the drug Viagra. Viagra was first approved ̶a̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶a̶p̶h̶r̶o̶d̶i̶s̶i̶a̶c ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶m̶e̶n̶ ̶w̶h̶o̶ ̶c̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶w̶i̶v̶e̶s̶ for use for erectile dysfunction in the US on 27th March 1998 and was first marketed later that year.

    Today the venerable Daily Mail is reporting that:

    Jeffrey Epstein had a ‘biological’ need to ‘have three orgasms a day’ says masseuse recruited to be his ‘personal assistant’

    Jeffrey Epstein first met Virginia Roberts in 1999, the year after Viagra came on the market.

    Of course the middle-aged Epstein with his biological need, as diagnosed by a teenage masseuse, would have had no need at all for Viagra, but if he did, he could have afforded the $20 per pill love potion promoted by former vice-president Bob Dole (and presumably endorsed by his formidable wife Libby Hanford Dole) when it first became available.

    This picture was published in 1996 at a time when Viagra was still in trials, but this photograph suggests the vice-presidential couple may have been among the trialists.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Sean
  95. Alden says:

    Steve, isn’t about 190-200 ideal nice normal slim for 6’4? Never mind normal slim , I find skinny men very attractive. Tall skinny men actually. Just my type.

    Congratulations it’s hard to avoid gaining weight after 50. Doubly hard to lose the weight.

  96. Alden says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    I’m sure he took way more viagra than a normal man would need. But he was a cocksman 40 years before viagra.

    Maybe his body can be given to a research lab to discover his rare medical condition .

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    , @J.Ross
  97. @Paleo Liberal

    Fay was a man and Gus was a woman? What the hell? Was this before the time when you could “identify with” a gender or genders of your choosing?

  98. Kyle says:

    Most of the women in D.C. resemble miss piggy from the muppets. They are under 5’3”, over 150 lbs, with wide nostrils and washed out bleached blond hair. It’s fitting that these swine like creatures choose to live in a low lying swampy area that often smells like a barnyard. The restaurant scene in D.C. is weak. It’s probably the worst quality food for the relative price out of anywhere in America. Corporate chain restaurants like 5 guys or potbelly’s are very popular there. I got a gyro at a Greek diner and it was expensive and underwhelming, I’ve had cheaper and better gyros at hole in the wall coney islands in ghetto Detroit, or dirty kebab places in Europe. Most of the residents of D.C. spend your hard earned tax dollars on eating out an restaurants for 3 meals a day so it makes sense that the restaurants are so expensive and so low quality. The demand is there. The last time I was in D.C. a rat the size of a Pomeranian scurried out of a tree and down a sewer grate 5 feet in front of me. Apparently there is a huge rat problem in the city. This makes sense because the people who live in the city are the type of people who don’t eat their pizza crust. They’re also the type of people who order a pizza for delivery every day. Multiplied by the number of people, the amount of pizza crust sitting outside in trash cans at any given moment must be astronomical.

  99. Foulkes says:

    You look emaciated. There is no way a man of your height should way less than 200lbs.
    And actually weight correlates weakly with health
    You are reading to much Cosmopolitan

  100. @SunBakedSuburb

    Fat Shaming – happens every time bored identity throws a pearly sample of his selfie collection before swine…

    Luckily, bored identity still can find some solace in the wisdom of Rosenbaum & Metz LLC that keeps on giving:

    Dr. Michael Rosenbaum, an obesity researcher at Columbia University, explained:

    “Inevitably, you get these comments, ‘I know how to cure obesity. All you have to do is eat less.’

    The idea that obesity is a disease has not caught on.

    The idea that once you have lost weight you are cured is wrong.

    Obesity is the disease that keeps on giving.”

    Meanwhile, “That public health message leads to people feeling it is their fault,” said Judith Matz, a psychotherapist and author.

    “It implies weight is a matter of willpower.”

  101. Bill P says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    It’s partly the climate. Staying indoors with the AC on all day isn’t good for one’s waistline.

    Montana and Utah are quite low in obesity and high in republicans. They’re also relatively high altitude and beautiful places.

    West Virginia is the most depressing of all states where obesity is concerned. That’s a beautiful state that should have thin, happy people. Food stamps and joblessness may be to blame. EBT benefits should only allow a certain small amount to be spent on foods containing sugar, like 5%.

    • Replies: @Alden
  102. damn what happened bro. you went from a good looking guy to kind of this toothy grin of some huckleberry at a train station.

    get that distinguished handsome look back, partner.

  103. @Buzz Mohawk

    Yes, Jeffrey Epstein is now dead, for your information. That is the end of the story. LOL. L-fucking-O-L! As if we didn’t see this coming.

    I hope that I don’t become so isolated, dark, and altogether shitty that I L-fucking-O-L at the violent death of another human being.

    Get off the internet for a week and see to your soul, you aimless shit heel.

  104. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    When you lose weight you lose muscle and fat at the same time about 50/50. You cannot add muscle without also putting on fat.

    How can you get lean and muscular?

    • Replies: @Sean
  105. @goatweed

    Yes, but if you eat nothing but dill pickles, you will soon end up dead as they are 95% water and contain lots of salt. A nice, refreshing glass of seawater might be better and will keep your bowels moving.

  106. Lot says:

    I think SS knows best on this issue, but I agree he looks like he has a medium frame from his headshots, not a light frame where 6-4 175 is an ideal.

    He also has a long neck, so maybe he has a 6-3 type body and extra inch there.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    , @Sean
  107. Alden says:

    skinny men are the most attractive.

  108. @Jonathan Mason

    Uh… I used to be a personal trainer. I’ve trained thousands of people, gotten good results, mostly.

    Not to be mean, but you don’t know the first thing of what you’re talking about regarding nutrition and exercise. I’m astounded you posted that long essay full of subjective insanity with no citations.
    The fact that your weight is flailing all over the map should give you a clue that you’re in no position to be issuing health advice. You could probably write something interesting about cognitive dissonance, if you were honest.

    You may know a lot about other things. Leave diet and nutrition advice alone.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  109. @Alden

    But he was a cocksman 40 years before viagra.

    Who Epstein or Dole? Epstein was a baby 40 years before Viagra.

    • Replies: @Alden
  110. the most 2019 news story of 2019 so far:

    Somalia says blind female suicide bomber killed Mogadishu mayor

    pokemon points, somalia, suicide bombers, the country where the president was a US citizen too, this one has it all.

  111. I suspect Epstein is not impressed with the new Epstein!

    On a positive note, however, his suicide seems to have opened many people’s minds to conspiracies.

  112. Neoconned says:

    Shave the white stubble off Steve & you’ll be a sexy beast.

  113. Alden says:
    @Simon Tugmutton

    Epstein wasn’t on suicide watch. He was on suicide encouragement.

    I’m thinking of the average jail cell. He was in an average metro jail cell, not a prison. Newish building probably 8, not 10 ft ceilings. No shelves light fixtures shower rods to attach a cord too.

    So what did he attach the cord to????

    Bunk bed, the top bunk rails are about 5’4 much shorter than Epstein.

    Does the cell have solid walls and a door or does it have just bars instead of walls? It’s possible to tie a cord around the top of a bar. But I’d think the weight of the body would drag the cord down so there’s be no pressure in the neck and he wouldn’t suffocate

    He wouldn’t have had a belt or shoe laces. It’s always possible he tore a sheet into strips and braided the strips into a rope.

    Questions questions questions

  114. @Stan Adams

    Scrawled on the doorstep of Jeffy’s Manhattan mansion today:

    Everyone that you don’t like is not automatically Jewish.

    Well, just sayin, but I calculated that (in between posts here) Jack had just enough time to get there and do the deed. Not that this is proof or anything, mind you.

  115. Alden says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Sorry, I meant Epstein. He was about 45 when viagra came out so a cocksman 30-25 years before viagra came out. Assuming he started young which he probably did. Maybe he never got over his first, a girl in his 9 or 10th grade class.

  116. @Lot

    Speaking of long necks, one of the most notorious ones has to belong to 6’3” Guns ‘n Roses bass player Duff McKagan.

    • Replies: @anon
  117. @Anonymousse

    I imagine the island and all his offices and safes have been emptied of all video recordings by now, and various ex-Presidents and royals are wiping their brows and pouring a stiff drink.

    I suppose he could have deposited copies with someone, with instructions to spill the beans if he died untimely – but that someone would need very good life insurance or an FSB-guarded flat in Moscow.

  118. Flip says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    “Walking is the best possible exercise. Habituate yourself to walk very far.”
    Thomas Jefferson

    (And he lived to be 83.)

  119. JackOH says:

    Didn’t Pres. Trump say something about shooting someone on Fifth Ave. and getting away with it during the campaign? LOL. I think he’s basically pro-2nd Amendment, but he’s under a lot of pressure. There’s been some thread of an anti-2nd Amendment argument that says mere gun ownership ought to be regarded as a medical “risk factor” (mostly for suicide), but I don’t have any handy references.

    The pro-2nd Amendment folks pretty much don’t want to have medical doctors “medicalizing” gun ownership, and including it in their medical counsel as an end-around 2nd Amendment debate.

    My point is that we connect behaviors of identifiable sub-populations with specific public health concerns, so I’m thinking it may be possible to do the same thing with Blacks’ disproportionate crime rate. I think you can do it without “attitude”, but I don’t know for sure.

  120. The body mass visualizer says 6-4, 175 is just a skootch under the middle of the normal range. Not underweight or even close to it.

    There are a lot of people whose BMI is over what they allow you to visualize.


    1. Eliezer Yudkowsky once told the internet that he was unable to lose weight regardless of how much he walked. Very underappreciated comedian.

    2. Walking is the ideal transportation method for homo sapiens. If you are moving any faster there will be details that your brain and vision system will skip processing.

    3. Related to 2 walking is the ideal activity for incubating heavy thought. You have to stay fully awake and alert but the demands on your brain are so small that you can think about really heavy shit. Kant walked. Einstein walked. (Walking ain’t going to make you a Kant or an Einstein but it obviously didn’t hold those guys back a bit.)

    4. For maximum benefit leave the phone and the ipod at home.

  121. Alden says:
    @Bill P

    there’s a theory about the obesity of the native English former working, now welfare class. The theory applies to Appalachia and the rest of the south

    The idea is that they were so malnourished for 300 years that they really did shrink noticeably.
    Then WW2 rationing meant they were better fed than they had been for centuries. Then socialism meant well fed.

    3 generations of post WW2 normal physical labor to calorie intake instead of centuries of malnourishment first got them back to normal size by about 1980. Then they started getting obese due to changes in metabolism because of fat cells storing food during those centuries of malnutrition.

    My sister born in 1951 went to Uni in the UK. She noticed what so many foreigners have noticed about the English but not Scots or Irish

    It wasn’t just the accent and manners that distinguished working from middle class English. As late as the early 1970’s the working class girls at her university were much shorter and thinner than the middle class girls Men too.

    It’s a theory that makes sense. But in weight control theories don’t matter. Only what works.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
  122. Alden says:

    You’ve always been the optimist in this site. You don’t jump to conspiracies . You see both sides. You’re a reasonable man

    But Epstein’s death: it’s hard to argue that it could have been a suicide instead of a cover up murder.

  123. Vinteuil says:
    @gabriel alberton

    ”He had been taken off suicide watch before he killed himself, a person familiar with the matter told the AP. It wasn’t immediately clear when he was taken off suicide watch.”

    “Commits suicide” just after being taken off “suicide watch.”

    They’re not even bothering with plausible deniability, anymore.

    • Replies: @Hail
  124. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Menu exclusion–on no account should you eat any bread, sugar, artificial sweetener, or potatoes in any form, root vegetables like carrots or sweet potatoes, or bananas. Plaintains are OK for main meal.

    Why no root vegetables or bananas? I thought carrots, sweet potatoes, and bananas are supposed to be good for you.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @J.Ross
    , @Jonathan Mason
  125. Sean says:

    One would have to know what weight he was at 25 years old. I don’t think going below that would be a good idea.

  126. Sean says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    an old joke about Calvin Coolidge when he was President … The President and Mrs. Coolidge were being shown [separately] around an experimental government farm. When [Mrs. Coolidge] came to the chicken yard she noticed that a rooster was mating very frequently. She asked the attendant how often that happened and was told, “Dozens of times each day.” Mrs. Coolidge said, “Tell that to the President when he comes by.” Upon being told, the President asked, “Same hen every time?” The reply was, “Oh, no, Mr. President, a different hen every time.” President: “Tell that to Mrs. Coolidge.”

  127. Vinteuil says:

    “Jeffrey Epstein dead from apparent suicide in Manhattan jail cell , FBI investigating”

    Gee , who would have thought it . But not to worry the FBI will get to the bottom of it.

    The Federal Bureau of Insiders will, no doubt, do just as good a job “investigating” this as they’ve done with everything else in the last few years.

  128. Here’s a funny thing. When I Googled, Bingled, or Hooyahed, for the date of birth of Virginia Roberts Giuffre, the main accuser of alleged billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, I can find almost nothing about her date of birth, nor about her parents and where they were when she was being held captive as a sex slave.

    Almost like the search engines have been wiped with a cloth like Hillary Clinton’s server.

    All I can find is that subpoenaed records showed that she had a summer job at Trump’s Mar a Largo resort when she was aged 17, according to their records, not 15.

    And this, that her father Sky Roberts made some claims to a Murdoch newspaper about her meeting the Queen that were later withdrawn by him.

    Also in this article (below) Sky Roberts. the father of the minor child, is quoted as saying:

    ‘At the time we thought it was all OK. Virginia never once said anything about any sexual activity. I never asked her because I did not think that was going on.

    ‘Mr Epstein seemed an upstanding kind of guy. She would go to his house in Palm Beach but always come home. When he started flying her all over the world we just thought what a life she was having … All Virginia ever said was that she was hired to give massages.’

    He said his daughter was never in trouble with police and avoided any involvement in drugs while growing up in California and Loxahatchee, Florida.

    ‘There was one occasion when she was taken to hospital with alcohol poisoning … She was about 15 years old. That was the only time she had been in trouble. Growing up she had everything she wanted. It was a good family life…

    No mention of how his minor daughter obtained a passport for overseas travel, which would require the signatures of both of her parents. Hmmm!

    A lot of the allegations revolve around the issue of her age. For example if Prince Andrew had sex with her in London when she was 17, that was legal and not pedophilia under British law, as long as he did not PAY her, in which case it would have been illegal if she was under 18.

    Roberts is supposed to have met Epstein via Maxwell meeting her at Mar a Largo, where she worked when she was 17, yet Roberts alleges that Epstein took her on trips to New York and other places when she was “15 or 16 years old.”

    In Florida prostitution is illegal and if a masseuse gives a hand or mouth job to a paying client, that is considered prostitution, and therefore illegal, however if the persons are having a non paid relationship, then no foul, unless one or both are to young to consent to sexual activity.

    It is all very mysterious, but perhaps now Epstein is dead, it will all come out in the wash,

    Certainly one of the fascinating stories of our time. Can we expect the movie soon?

    • Replies: @Alden
  129. J.Ross says:

    No, this is just like “only rich people have psychological problems.” Of course everybody has problems but the rich have the time and money to indulge them (and possibly make them up to seem more interesting). Lots of men and women could use three orgasms a day but very few have the cash and time. That one chick was was the girlfriend of that one “serial killer” (actually a kidnapper and torturer, the one with the dental equipment and the pre-recorded introductory message to his victims) received ministrations from the current slave three times a day.

  130. Alden says:

    How can they afford it?

    Compare a $20.99 plus tax family meal from KFC 8 pieces of chicken a pot of mashed potatoes a pot of coleslaw 4 biscuits. S22.50

    Prices for the same meal where I live. Whole chicken $6. 4 medium size potatoes $1.50 1/3 head of cabbage half a shredded carrot blob of mayonnaise $1. cup of flour 1/4 cup margarine crisco whatever 1/4 cup of milk 50 cents

    Same meal for $8.0o.

    Those bacon and egg sandwiches at fast food are about $4.00. 12 eggs $3.oo pound of bacon $6.00 loaf of cheap bread for toast $3.00. $12 and no sales tax

    That’s 12 days of one egg and bacon sandwiches breakfast for one person for $12. Maybe splurge and have English muffins instead of toast $15.

    Fast food egg and bacon sandwiches for one person for 12 days $48

    Fast food is cheaper than real restaurants but it’s not cheap.

    • Replies: @Johnny789
    , @J.Ross
  131. Alden says:

    Hipster types talk about healthy food. But a lot eat like everybody else.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  132. Hail says: • Website

    not even bothering with plausible deniability

    It gets a lot worse:

    Alleged “camera malfunction” last night at MCC where Jeffrey Epstein was locked up.

    Two guards were both told to leave area 3 hours earlier for scheduled “Maintenance”

    Jeffrey Epstein suicide apparently first suicide ever committed at MCC in New York

  133. Sean says:

    Prince Andrew has a long history of going for older women.

    Epstein simply stole Wexner’s money, then had to give it back.

    What is going to happen now will be all about Epstein because his estate is up for grabs, and little proof will be required for a civil claim, but the money he left is a lot smaller than has been reported. Expect several hundred claims.

  134. Anonymous[582] • Disclaimer says:

    Have we seen Epstein’s body, and, is that body him? Never having to work again in your life could be good motivation to do the wrong thing.

  135. Lot says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    The “slightly overweight is best” is probably a false correlation. Some extra thin people are that way because they are sick or addicts. On the other hand, for the elderly, a little extra weight can let them better survive a long illness.

    Still, even a little extra weight increases the risk of heart disease, diabetes, and some cancers, even if it also increases a little the chance of survival.

  136. Alden says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Father or stepfather?

    If Epstein took her out of the country by private plane there wouldn’t have been a problem of a minor leaving the country without a parent

    Alcohol poisoning at 15 maybe, just maybe a boy gave her a big glass of half vodka half beer. More likely she already had a problem.

    Lots of adults like city bus drivers teachers and neighbors were friendly with my children. I always was on the alert about it.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  137. Anonymous[582] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    At 221 or so and 6′, I don’t think I look bad but would look ideal at 205 to 210. 175′ for a 6’4″ guy seems overly skinny IMO but everyone is different. If it works for Steve more power to him.

  138. Johnny789 says:

    Yes, grocery shopping is cheaper, but for a single it makes you either overeat or throw away a lot of food.

  139. Alden says:

    Lol walking causes bunions and flat feet. We are doomed.

  140. Lot says:

    A diet so strict that you cannot have beets and carrots and yams few people will be able to stay on long term.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  141. my latest diet change is to fast 14 hours every day. Very optimistic it will have a positive affect.

  142. Danindc says:

    Well said Tank. Steve is a national treasure.

  143. J.Ross says:

    I totally agree but the evidence is right in front of me when I waddle to the cafeteria with my pollock poached in court buillon over basmati rice with peas (which altogether cost about $20 for a week of entrees, just need to warm it in the microwave and not get bored of it) and pass tablefuls of pizza boxes and fast food bags. Another thing is TV dinners, which can be somewhat healthy or actually worse than McDonald’s.

  144. J.Ross says:

    Bananas have questionable nutritional value — the idea that they are among the healthiest things you can eat was a triumph of early twentieth century Bernaysism if not Bernays himself. They’re not positively bad like a candy bar, but a late grandparent who had grown up with that mass media campaign (and believed it) would try to add bananas to every meal and expected them to counteract or prevent cancer. Also, spinach does not have more iron than meat, generations were suckered by a typo.

  145. @Mr. Anon

    Don’t eat sugar or starch. I really, really like sugar and starch, so don’t put myself in positions of temptation around sugar/starch. Don’t rely on willpower: e.g., “Oh, I’ll just eat one slice of pizza and then when I’ve reminded myself of how much I like pizza, I’ll totally stop at just one slice and NOT eat 3 more.”

    Nah, just don’t let yourself be near pizza or ice cream or pastries etc. etc.

    My particular metabolism is such that the first hit of sugar/starch makes me hungrier for more of the same, so a strategy of moderation and willpower involving sugar and starch doesn’t work well. Instead, eat meat and vegetables. It’s like how teetotaling works better for an Irishman with a drinking problem while an Italian finds it easier to drink moderately.

    Note: everybody is different so you have to experiment to find out what works for you.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  146. Sailer looks great. What’s his secret to weight loss? Just walking every day? Any particular diet or supplements?

    I’ll donate to the cause. Keep up the good work.

  147. 4th Amboy says:

    I’ll be contrarian about the weight loss. Sarcopenia is not your friend as you age. My father played a lot of tennis late into his 70s and his ticker is still fine. However, he never built muscle mass and now it’s mostly depleted and he’s virtually bedridden.

    Taleb never misses an opportunity to talk/brag about deadlifts but here I’d pay attention. Later, when you visit people younger than you in a nursing home, and you observe them hunched and shuffling around with walkers, you’ll be glad you did. I wish my dad did.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Dave Pinsen
  148. @Alden

    There is a similar theory about the high rates of obesity in many Indian tribes. That is, Indians were starved during the Indian Wars and the aftermath. The Indians who survived had abnormally slow metabolism rates, and their descents are fat.

  149. PSR says:

    However, a man of 6’4” is prone to back and joint problems as he ages and a lower weight will help moderate those problems.

  150. @Alden

    If Epstein took her out of the country by private plane there wouldn’t have been a problem of a minor leaving the country without a parent

    Both parents would have to sign for her to get a passport, and even with private planes there is passport control and customs clearance, particularly arriving back in the US from overseas.

    She could not have traveled to London without a passport and on arrival there it may have been necessary to present some kind of documentary proof of guardianship.

    If one parent is accompanying the minor to the UK, the other parent should write a letter giving his consent for the child to visit England with the traveling parent. The letter should include details about the trip, including the dates and flight numbers, to demonstrate that he approves the plans. The parent should include his contact information and have the signed letter notarized. Parents must include information about who is responsible for the minor during her time in England. If she’s traveling with a school group or adult chaperone, give explicit permission for the person in charge to care for the child. Include the itinerary for the trip, including the name of any hotels where the child will stay.

    Alcohol poisoning at 15 … More likely she already had a problem.

    I agree.

    I know my kids’ bus driver. It is OK for her to take them to school, but not overseas! At my work a few years ago, I knew a coworker who was married to her school bus driver. She was 27 and he 62 at the time I knew her. They had a daughter of about 3 or 4 years old, I think.

  151. Steve if I send you a pdf for one of Rob Shaul’s MTI lift routines will you use it? Damn man, being skinny fat ain’t healthy but neither is looking like you just came out of Castleburry.

  152. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @4th Amboy

    I wish my dad did.

    What do you wish he had done? What could he have done differently specifically?

    • Replies: @4th Amboy
  153. @Anonymous

    Why no root vegetables or bananas? I thought carrots, sweet potatoes, and bananas are supposed to be good for you.

    They are not bad for you, but when pureed or chewed and swallowed they form simple carbohydrates that are quickly absorbed and elevate the blood sugar. After the blood sugar peaks and then troughs, you will start to feel very hungry again, so it is better to stick to foods that do not make you terribly hungry when they wear off/

    So I would rather get starches from rice dishes or pasta, or quinoa (if you wish), as these seem to have less glycemic effect, in other words, they do not bring your blood sugar racing up so quickly.

    Actually carrots are OK and can be eaten diced small to add flavor to a meal, but people do not usually use carrots as the main filler-up of a meal.

    A lot of this theory comes from management of diabetics, but it is also useful for overeaters, fatties, and those who want to lose weight.

    The worst food for accelerating your blood sugar are potatoes, white bread, and sugar itself. You can also include orange juice, apple juice, any sweetened drink with sugar in it, and pretty much all desserts except cheese.

    Anyway, bottom line is that if you want to avoid death or disablement, you will probably have to give up foods that you like, so get used to it.

    I see Steve Sailer has posted his dietary recommendations, and I totally agree with what he says.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  154. anon[289] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    At first glance, this bloke looks like … Jeffrey Epstein.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
  155. @Lot

    A diet so strict that you cannot have beets and carrots and yams few people will be able to stay on long term.

    Any diet can be tailored to suit the individual’s preferences, but if you are overweight and want to avoid premature disability and death, you probably need to cut out some foods that you like, so get used to it or you could end up like Ella Fitzgerald, having both your legs amputated and losing an eye due to diabetes.

    Given that kind of choice, or having kidney failure and going on dialysis, going without a lot of foods that you like is doable.

  156. res says:

    I omitted the most relevant part. That correlation was for white % obese or overweight.

  157. Congratulations Steve, that’s a hellacious accomplishment and you look great.
    It’s also motivational to either start or keep at it.
    I’m already on a Keto based intermittent fast way of life to shed my bulk, down 70 pounds so far— gotta get in shape for the civil war if nothing else.

  158. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    The worst food for accelerating your blood sugar are potatoes, white bread, and sugar itself. You can also include orange juice, apple juice, any sweetened drink with sugar in it, and pretty much all desserts except cheese.

    Why is accelerating one’s blood sugar a problem?

    Anyway, bottom line is that if you want to avoid death or disablement

    Which of these foods cause death or disablement? How?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  159. anon[289] • Disclaimer says:

    … and overall sugar is just bad. No nutritional value whatsoever.

    As far as losing and gaining weight goes, i’ve found that by giving away eating wheat products, the weight starts falling off until my weight gets down to 170.
    It only takes a bottle of beer or a loaf of bread to get me on the way back to 230, though.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  160. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:

    A lot of hipster places just make fancier junk food that’s even higher calorie and worse for your health than regular fast food chains. A hipster place will have a fancy cheeseburger with a Brioche bun (which is loaded with egg and butter) with a huge patty and a heap of some fancy cheese. Plus avocado, which is a high calorie fat. And bacon will be added to everyone. With a side of fries cooked in duck fat or something. A Big Mac will pale in comparison to these hipster entrees.

    • Replies: @anon
  161. @anon

    Duff McKagan is a very talented man, devoted to his wife and children, who pretty much overcame death itself and the addictions which so nearly caused it by sheer willpower, then went on to pick up the pieces, writing three books, co-writing legendarily amazing and influential songs, etc.

    Comparing him to Epstein is out if order.

    What’s more, I’d argue he doesn’t even much resemble the bastard, except upon the most hasty of comparisons.

    He’s a Celtic survivor of our self-destructive predilections, not a scheming, predatory Jew with their predilection to destroy others.

  162. Inspiring! A free man who knows his purpose is a powerful thing.

  163. Lagertha says:

    J’adore Steve! I also, lost 15 pounds of stress (mostly due to aging parents) but, it feels good to move on. I still have several snags on the path, but I applaud you for getting to your target. I am finally, free from daily obligations. It is both hard to be free of family (death) and rested to be free. I am almost there. Family is all any of you have…don’t squander it bc of hubris and old hurts.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
  164. Marty says:

    Nobody weighs 175 at 6’4” unless they’ve lost muscle, so Steve’s swing speed can only have gone down. But you might well pick up more putting/chipping touch. I’ve never seen a paunchy guy who didn’t stub everything from 75 yds. and in.

  165. Mr. Anon says:
    @Paleo Liberal

    Sorry. That comment was meant for Steve, not you.

  166. Mr. Anon says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Thanks. I figured it involved some variant of the keto/paleo diet. That really does seem to be the only way to lose weight.

  167. @Former Trainer

    Not to be mean, but you don’t know the first thing of what you’re talking about regarding nutrition and exercise. I’m astounded you posted that long essay full of subjective insanity with no citations.

    LOL, I am happy for you if you are able to make a living having people pay you for your advice on diet and exercise, but you have not offered anything useful here, but of course you want to be paid for your opinions.

    I said it is a good idea to take some exercise. Is that wrong? Why?

    The fact that your weight is flailing all over the map should give you a clue that you’re in no position to be issuing health advice.

    You may know a lot about other things. Leave diet and nutrition advice alone

    You obviously did not read what I wrote very carefully. I said that about 5 years ago I successfully reduced my weight by about 50 lbs with a diet of my choice, but that I relapsed and put the weight back on again. I did not say my weight was flailing about all over the map. I just related a fairly commonplace experience, that you, in your infinite wisdom, must be aware of.

    What I suggested diet-wise is pretty much the same as what Steve Sailer also said worked for him. It may be that you are used to working with a younger age group, because I don’t think Medicare covers personal trainers, but the SilverSneakers exercise plan is covered by many Medicare Advantage plans.

  168. anon[149] • Disclaimer says:

    The idea that Saturated Fat is a health risk was debunked 30+ years ago.
    Humans have been eating saturated fat for thousands of years, it’s hard wired into us.

  169. Kronos says:

    Yeah, sugar and carbs.

  170. Hail says: • Website

    For those reading this in the near or long term:

    This was, by coincidence, the top-most iSteve post when the news that Epstein had “committed suicide” was released to the public, which is why it has so many OT comments on the Epstein death (with very few believing it was ‘suicide’).

    A new iSteve thread on that subject was posted about 10 hours after the news was first reported, and within abt 12 hours of posting (this writing), had 320 comments:

  171. @Anonymous

    Why is accelerating one’s blood sugar a problem?

    See Steve Sailer’s posts on the subject of dieting. But basically quickly accelerating the blood pressure leads to blood sugar crashes later which cause intense feelings of hunger, making it difficult to keep to a diet and lose weight.

    Which of these foods cause death or disablement? How?

    No specific food causes death or disablement on their own, but obesity due to overeating can cause many complications like diabetes, falls, chronic skin infections, high blood pressure, strokes, inability to take care of personal hygiene, sleep apnea, blood clots in the lungs, and so on. The best way to lose weight is to just eat less, but if you can find ways of doing that without feeling hungry, it is much easier.

    As a purely practical consideration, if you have a large belly you may find it difficult to cut your toenails, put on socks, and tie your shoes, which are kinds of disability, if you think about it.

  172. Sean says:

    Well can you by natural means you once you are no longer young? Not without making it a full time job and picking up joint problems, that’s for sure. Anyway, getting a six pack midsection might not be the wisest thing to do in middle age. Steve seems to have hit on the right activity for him.
    O’Mara’s enthusiasm for walking ties in with both of his main interests as a professor of experimental brain research: stress, depression and anxiety; and learning, memory and cognition. “It turns out that the brain systems that support learning, memory and cognition are the same ones that are very badly affected by stress and depression,” he says. “And by a quirk of evolution, these brain systems also support functions such as cognitive mapping,” by which he means our internal GPS system.[…] It’s part of the reason, O’Mara suspects, that the prolific writer and thinker Bertrand Russell said that walking was integral to his work. Likewise, the Irish mathematician William Rowan Hamilton, who pondered a single problem on his daily walks for seven years, eventually inventing a number system called quaternions, without which we couldn’t make electric toothbrushes or mobile phones.

    Pro bodybuilders take cortisol. Inflammation increases as you get older and exercise damps it down quite a bit. Gum disease is now thought to be responsible for an awful lot of inflammation and in addition to heart disease diabetes and just about everything else activation of the immune system is implicated in depression.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  173. 4th Amboy says:

    Got under the bar, or at least made an attempt to directly fight what the aging process was doing to his muscle fiber and bone density via meaningful resistance training. Muscle loss is considered a”natural part of aging” and really accelerates after age 60 or so. But with proper weight training it can be fought, with success, and age-related frailty can be pushed back many years.

    But he had the cardio-is-all-I-need mindset. his heart is fine (sorta) and he always had lower than average fat mass. But what good is it if you can barely stand, or hold a half gallon container of juice?

  174. Sean says:

    I don’t think there is ever a case for a man putting on fat as such.

  175. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @4th Amboy

    There’s a Starting Strength gym in Los Angeles:

    Steve could get back over 200lbs by adding mostly muscle. Barbell training helps prevent falls, and strengthens bones so that if you do fall, you’re more durable.

    It would also be interesting to see how lifting impacts Steve’s politics.

    • Replies: @keuril
    , @Anonymous
  176. One of the best rules of RW twitter is that if you’re gonna post fitness advice you better post physique.

    This thread is great evidence of why that rule exists.

  177. JackOH says:

    Above-the-tie game, Steve. You’ll lose 5+ years.

    Shave: double-edge razor (Dovo and some Parkers); blades (try Feather or Kai); brush (Muehle or Semogue); shave cream (Pro Raso). Plenty of other brands are good, too.

    Haircut: Barber school, once or twice a month. I pay $7 for a scissor or clipper cut, $10 for a razor cut. Plenty of Black and Hispanic students to add to wisdom.

    Hat: Linen fedora, wool fedora, Panama, linen or wool caps. Bailey is a good maker, and also importer. Village Hat Shop has a huge selection. Try (Warsaw, Poland) for Euro quality at 40% less than Western Euro prices.

    Trust me on this. I’d let my appearance go for a, uh, while. Then I cleaned up. Makes a difference.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  178. keuril says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Starting Strength has many things to recommend it, but the emphasis seems to be much more on getting strong than staying slim. E.g., Rippetoe says even younger guys should forget about having abs that show. And look at the cover photo for The Barbell Prescription, the book written specifically for older lifters.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  179. Congratulations on reaching your ideal weight, Steve. Must’ve been reducing all that fruit-at-the-bottom Knudsen yogurt to only once a month instead of every day.

  180. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    The Barbell Prescription cover features a realistic looking model – most guys in their 50s don’t have six packs.

    I think Rippetoe’s point, with respect to younger guys lifting for aesthetics, is that they should focus on building muscle mass first, which makes sense, and is what actual bodybuilders do. That said, there are some ripped Starting Strength coaches, like Jordan Feigenbaum (looks like he may be a former Starting Strength coach now though – some drama at the empire lately). Feigenbaum seems like a natural meso-ectomorph though, and has very strict nutrition.

    • Replies: @keuril
  181. keuril says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    The Barbell Prescription cover features a realistic looking model – most guys in their 50s don’t have six packs.

    Sure. My point is simply that if you’ve been focused on losing weight and have dropped 45 pounds to 175, and then go into Starting Strength where the focus is on getting stronger, adding back 25 pounds is not going to be just muscle. Your body-fat percentage is likely to rise, and one may have mixed feelings about that after doing all the hard work to lose weight in the first place. I feel like both Starting Strength and Barbell Prescription are pretty straightforward about setting expectations w/r/t this issue, especially for older lifters. This has some personal relevance for me as I am the same height as Steve, in my early 50s. I dropped from 235 down to 195 and my strength declined precipitously. I’m now back up to 205 and a lot stronger than I was at 195, when I felt rather weak. I don’t think I would want to add much more weight, though. At least, I’m trying to see how much stronger I can get before adding weight becomes necessary.

  182. Anonymous[241] • Disclaimer says:

    Battle of Cannae….

  183. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:

    Thank you for your comment.

    Well can you by natural means you once you are no longer young? Not without making it a full time job and picking up joint problems, that’s for sure.

    If one cannot lose fat without losing muscle it would seem impossible or very difficult to ever achieve a muscled physique (muscle without fat).

    P.S. What is the cause of joint problems for these people who workout to become lean and muscular?

  184. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Steve could get back over 200lbs by adding mostly muscle. Barbell training helps prevent falls, and strengthens bones so that if you do fall, you’re more durable.

    How hard is it to put on muscle without putting on fat?

    • Replies: @keuril
  185. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:

    Above-the-tie game, Steve. You’ll lose 5+ years.

    What do you recommend for shirts, pants, and shoes?

    • Replies: @JackOH
  186. JackOH says:

    Wear them. Could be illegal or unsanitary to be without shirts, pants, and shoes. LOL.

  187. keuril says:

    How hard is it to put on muscle without putting on fat?

    In the article linked below, Mark Rippetoe (author of Starting Strength) addresses this question for a 20-yr-old gaining weight as part of a strength program:

    How much fat will you accumulate during this initial growth? A 20-year-old guy that starts out at 165 pounds and 5′ 10″ at a typical 15% bodyfat will usually end up at about 205 pounds and 20% bodyfat at the end of 4-5 months. This represents a gain of 40 pounds, 24 of which (60%) is lean body mass. Every time we’ve measured it, this is about what happens.

    About 60-65% of the gains experienced on this type of program are lean body mass, and this seems to be about the best you can do to balance rapid growth in strength and size with some fat accumulation.

    You can bet your bottom dollar that novices in their 50s and 60s will gain a lot more fat than the 20-yr-old.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  188. Anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:

    Thank you

  189. EdwardM says:

    Congratulations, Steve. I always thought, in some pictures, that you looked vaguely like Gov. Jerry Brown. (That’s a compliment, and he’s a pretty good-looking guy too.)

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  190. @EdwardM

    What was Pat Brown doing in early 1958?

    He was on the campaign trail all over California, I presume.

    I talked to Jerry Brown once. He was kind of an uncomfortable personality who didn’t seem to like talking to strangers (or maybe just didn’t like talking to me), which seemed odd for a famous politician who’d won Presidential primaries in three separate years, but I could relate.

    • Replies: @EdwardM
  191. EdwardM says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I’ve chatted with Jerry Brown too. I liked him — came across a bit ornery yet charismatic. He seemed pretty candid for a politician. This must have been around 1998, before he was elected mayor of Oakland, at a small reception at an east coast university following a speech. I appreciate his eccentricity.

  192. Anon87 says:

    Congrats Steve. I do hope you are in it for the long haul. From a chunky Merkel’s Mistake to a healthy Trump Trim.

    But maybe mix in some free weights. If your mile walks turn into, horrors!, jogging, you might go soft on us.

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