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The Megaphone Doubles-Down on the Ferguson Narrative

While I was writing my new Taki’s Magazine column on Ferguson across Monday night and Tuesday morning, the sense was palpable that the dominant media had taken a humiliating double blow in a battle of their own choosing:

- The grand jury’s finding after months of careful research contradicted the Narrative promulgated in August and tenaciously held to ever since despite the piling up of evidence.

- The looting and arson by “protesters” in Ferguson was disgusting.

The first mainstream media pieces trying to snark about the events of Monday were deluged that night by critical commenters clearly better informed than the paid journalists.

But, as Stalin liked to say, quantity has a quality all its own. Since then, the MSM has doubled down about how you can’t believe your lying eyes. To tell others journalists what the party line should be, the NYT Editorial Board has editorialized:

The Meaning of the Ferguson Riots
By THE EDITORIAL BOARD NOV. 25, 2014

Here’s the picture the NYT editorial board chose to illustrate their editorial:

Look what straight white men made them do!

The implications are that the Good People, the True Believers will be able to rise above what their lying eyes see in this photo and understand the gnostic truth:

The St. Louis County grand jury’s decision not to indict the white police officer who in August shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager, would have generated widespread anger and disappointment in any case. But the county prosecutor, Robert McCulloch, who is widely viewed in the minority community as being in the pockets of the police, made matters infinitely worse by handling this sensitive investigation in the worst possible way.

First, he refused to step aside in favor of a special prosecutor who could have been appointed by Gov. Jay Nixon of Missouri. He further undermined public confidence by taking a highly unorthodox approach to the grand jury proceeding. Instead of conducting an investigation and then presenting the case and a recommendation of charges to the grand jury, his office shifted its job to the grand jury. It made no recommendation on whether to indict the officer, Darren Wilson, but left it to the jurors to wade through masses of evidence to determine whether there was probable cause to file charges against Officer Wilson for Mr. Brown’s killing.

I thought you were complaining that the Democratic prosecutor didn’t step aside altogether, and now you are complaining that he stepped aside partly.

Under ordinary circumstances, grand jury hearings can be concluded within days. The proceeding in this case lasted an astonishing three months.

A complete failure of the Rush to Judgment process!

… For the black community of Ferguson, the killing of Michael Brown was the last straw in a long train of abuses that they have suffered daily at the hands of the local police.

What percentage of the looters and arsonists are residents of Ferguson? Until America’s power elite decided to destroy what had been a modestly encouraging example of blacks and whites getting along together over the decades, the black residents of Ferguson were, on the whole, content with their government, as a long line of elections demonstrated. After all, they wouldn’t have moved to Ferguson, often from black ruled municipalities like East St. Louis, if the place was so intolerable. And if it was so bad once they were there, they would have bothered to vote.

But since the whole point of the exercise was to rile up black turnout for this month’s midterm elections, the national leadership set about destroying the property values of black and white homeowners in Ferguson.

News accounts have strongly suggested, for example, that the police in St. Louis County’s many municipalities systematically target poor and minority citizens for street and traffic stops — partly to generate fines — which has the effect of both bankrupting and criminalizing whole communities.

Speed traps as justification for riot and mayhem!

By the way, that reminds me that the city of Los Angeles has cranked up it parking ticket enforcement to bring in more revenue, which favors the kind of rich people who get valet parking or pay to park in private lots. Therefore, I should loot the Barnes & Noble’s coffeetable art book section.

In this context, the police are justifiably seen as an alien, occupying force that is synonymous with state-sponsored abuse.

The case resonated across the country — in New York City, Chicago and Oakland

Oakland — the moral leader of the world

When you own the Megaphone, the most important thing is to keep talking, no matter how temporarily depressed you might be by how you’ve managed to embarrass yourself yet again with your previous talk talk. It’s like in Vonnegut’s Harrison Bergeron: whatever you do, don’t stop yapping and let your victim have a chance to think for himself.

 
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  1. The Narrative always — always — wins. Reality is but a chimera in contemporary America. It means literally less than nothing.

    It’s absurd to say that somehow the Narrative “failed,” or the “facts got in the way” of the Narrative. No, it didn’t fail. It won. It’s the dominant story-line. It will remain the dominant story-line FOREVER. The Gentle Giant will go into the history books as an innocent black youth gunned down by a racist white cop/racist white system. Period. Full stop.

    The only thing that alters this future is a complete systemic collapse followed by a nationalist takeover of some sort. I find that highly unlikely (though devoutly to be wished). The future is just a long, slow grind, everything getting worse for everyone except for the elites. Either become an elite or offer a service/product that the elites want (you know, like sex with porn stars or super expensive kitchens or kick ass private jets — sales are booming). The revolution will not be televised because there ain’t gonna be one.

    Elites win! Elites win!

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  2. Before all this happened Wilson gave an apparently misleading report of why he arrested someone filming him (said he had the camera in his face when the footage showed it was about 20 feet away). I would not be too sure that he is telling the absolute truth.

    There are no rules for a lot of situations, but Wilson has wrote some for the one he found himself in. I don’t think any cop would dare do what he did now

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    • Replies: @Hank
    Here's a reference to Wilson arresting someone for videotaping...this is bad...

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/16/ferguson-video-shows-darren-wilson-arresting-man-for-recording-him
    , @anon
    Do you think cops will now allow enraged criminals to beat them to death?
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    Blood trails and blood spatter evidence, DNA typed evidence, fiber evidence, hair evidence, ballistics evidence, three!!!! autopsies, and many eyewitness accounts all support the cop's testimony and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the accomplice of the dead man was a fountain of self-serving prevarication.. But you're not sure the cop is telling the truth!

    The only reasonable explanation for that is that you're a moron.

    And it is and always will be SOP for a cop to prevent any assailant from taking away his weapon and to use any method up to and including deadly force to prevent that from happening. And for all you morons out there who have no idea what combat shooting involves, you ALWAYS shoot for the center of the body mass. This is what all firearms carrying professionals are taught, This is real life. It is not the Lone Ranger or some other Hollywood fantasy.
    , @anon
    it's still unknown whether that's Wilson. Sundance at the Conservative Tree House said that it's not him.
    , @e
    Sean, you are repeating an inaccurate story. The officer to whom you refer was NOT Wilson. True, they both have light hair and skin and a receding hairline but that is another Ferguson officer and someone put it online saying it was Wilson.

    Look again at the pic. That guy is not 6'4". He is, however an officer in Ferguson.

    , @Lurker

    There are no rules for a lot of situations, but Wilson has wrote some for the one he found himself in.
     
    Yet the eyewitnesses, forensics, autopsies etc all back his version of events.

    I don’t think any cop would dare do what he did now
     
    Yes, elite success! In spite of him being cleared the core message is still sent to cops and white people generally - blacks, however badly behaved are to be given a greater benefit of the doubt than anyone else. Isn't there already statistical evidence for cops doing that? Expect more of that.
  3. “The St. Louis County grand jury’s decision not to indict the white police officer who in August shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager”

    A pox on each of their houses.

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    • Replies: @gu
    Btw, I am referring to the cretins who wrote this.
  4. @gu
    "The St. Louis County grand jury’s decision not to indict the white police officer who in August shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager"

    A pox on each of their houses.

    Btw, I am referring to the cretins who wrote this.

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  5. There are no rules for a lot of situations, but Wilson has wrote some for the one he found himself in.

    Has American English really gone that far to shit?

    I don’t think any cop would dare do what he did now.

    Really? How about this one:

    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/11/protesters_block_memorial_shor.html

    Synopsis: 12-yo AfAm boy had a replica .45. He’s dead. White cop shot him. It happened last Saturday.

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    • Replies: @Sean
    Oh, cop shoots boy with gun. Even Starsky did that one episode.
    , @Anonymous
    Sadly, after a 19 year old black college freshman shot and killed a 13 year old white kid with an air gun in 2001, the City of Cleveland redefined air guns (aka "toys") as "firearms" in 2002.

    The white child, a nice parochial school kid, was gathering pears with his friends from pear trees at a garden center in Cleveland to give to old folks. The Negro college kid shot him in the back and killed him during a "prank" drive-by.

    Negros are pretty good shots with "toy" air guns -- at least when it comes to killing white children for sport. So don't buy the MSM "toy gun" or "BB gun" business.

    Of course, the false narrative by lefties is that the NRA and anti-gun freaks prevented laws against air guns in Ohio. But Cleveland has had those laws since 2002, after the last Negro air gun murder.

    A "firearm" in Cleveland "means any deadly weapon capable of expelling or propelling one (1) or more projectiles by the action of an explosive or combustible propellant or by pump action or by compressed gas." See the Cleveland Revised Code entry for "firearm".

  6. @Sean
    Before all this happened Wilson gave an apparently misleading report of why he arrested someone filming him (said he had the camera in his face when the footage showed it was about 20 feet away). I would not be too sure that he is telling the absolute truth.

    There are no rules for a lot of situations, but Wilson has wrote some for the one he found himself in. I don't think any cop would dare do what he did now

    Here’s a reference to Wilson arresting someone for videotaping…this is bad…

    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/16/ferguson-video-shows-darren-wilson-arresting-man-for-recording-him

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  7. I think Steve may be too pessimistic. When I look at the comments at the NYT site for this editorial and other Brown stories, lots of people understand that Brown caused his own death by fighting with a police officer. If your message is too dumb, using a megaphone to broadcast it may just discredit you with more people.

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  8. But the county prosecutor, Robert McCulloch, who is widely viewed in the minority community as being in the pockets of the police

    Because it’s the first example in the history of the world where a prosecutor and cops in his or her jurisdiction have a good relationship.

    McCulloch’s father, as we all know by now, was a St. Louis City cop who was KIA by a black.

    Aside from the Fergaza Strip, if you take that out of the equation, (or, rather, if you did this before August 9), Ferguson is about half white and half black and almost entirely owner occupied housing.

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  9. News accounts have strongly suggested…that the police …systematically target poor and minority citizens for street and traffic stops — partly to generate fines

    Ahhhhh… the old “hunting where the ducks aren’t” trick….

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  10. Are racial tensions good or bad for our rulers?

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    • Replies: @Luke Lea
    Are racial tensions good or bad for our rulers?

    If you mean the guys who own the media, what they think is pretty obvious.

    , @Lurker
    Good. And we know that because of what they do rather than what they say.
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    Instead of conducting an investigation and then presenting the case and a recommendation of charges to the grand jury,his office shifted its job to the grand jury. It made no recommendation on whether to indict the officer, Darren Wilson, but left it to the jurors to wade through masses of evidence

    This is analogous to a social situation when one graciously play’s dumb about something in order help someone save face, and then the beneficiary of that action subsequently, in either utter obliviousness or backstabbing selfishness, criticizes your “ineptitude”.

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  12. “Speed traps as justification for riot and mayhem!”

    At what point does highway robbery rise to the level where one might be justified in defending oneself through physical violence? And which offense, or number of offenses, against life, liberty, and property, should be the one that breaks the camel of civility’s back?

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  13. Here’s a reference to Wilson arresting someone for videotaping…this is bad…

    Now I understand. Because he arrested someone for videoing him while doing official business he is automatically a murderer.

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  14. @Hard Line Realist

    There are no rules for a lot of situations, but Wilson has wrote some for the one he found himself in.
     
    Has American English really gone that far to shit?

    I don’t think any cop would dare do what he did now.
     
    Really? How about this one:

    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/11/protesters_block_memorial_shor.html

    Synopsis: 12-yo AfAm boy had a replica .45. He's dead. White cop shot him. It happened last Saturday.

    Oh, cop shoots boy with gun. Even Starsky did that one episode.

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  15. The Mike Brown family has been calling for all police officers nation wide be equipped with Go-Pro style body cameras.

    Now assume that Officer Wilson was wearing a body camera. According to the grand jury testimony, it would have captured Big Mike in a psychotic, poor man’s PCP(super high TCH pot aka LOUD + DXM dextromethorphan aka ROBOTRIPPING), fueled rage trying to beat the Officer to death with his fists and crab his gun while threatening “You’re too much of a pussy to shoot me.”

    How is the “Narrative” going to explain what our lying eyes would have seen in this case?

    Of course the NYT would scream that it was incredibly racist for the Ferguson PD or the St Louis County DA to release the video.

    In the past the Cultural Marxist Media has come down really hard on body camera wearing security guards.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2297455/Darien-Long-Americas-toughest-mall-cop-FIRED-videos-tasering-shoppers.html

    Why? Because they ruin the “Narrative”. All those millennials might realize they are being forced into life long student debt slavery in order to be brainwashed in Cultural Marxism. They would get to see what underclass blacks are really like up close.

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    • Replies: @Lefty Lawyer
    There is widespread agreement from the ACLU to many police chiefs that Go Pro style cameras should be worn by police at all time and on for all encounters with citizens. Can't be done soon enough - will hopefully put everyone on good behavior.
    , @David In TN
    Even if Wilson had a body camera it would still have been "He didn't have to shoot him. Wasn't there a way to stop the kid without killing him?"
  16. It strikes me that mainstream journalists share, unabashedly, a set of prejudices just like the small-town elites in the old segregationist South did. The only difference is a different set of prejudices.

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  17. “I thought you were complaining that the Democratic prosecutor didn’t step aside altogether, and now you are complaining that he stepped aside partly.”

    First they wanted him to step down, thinking he was going to deliberately half-ass his job. Then, when he fulfilled their predictions by deliberately half-assing his job, they complained that he half-assed his job! Make up your minds, libtards!

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    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Then, when he fulfilled their predictions by deliberately half-assing his job, they complained that he half-assed his job!

    He provided the grand jury with the evidence gathered investigators as well as witnesses and they spent 70 hours digesting it, vastly more attention than an ordinary case gets. You can't stop lying, can you?
  18. @Chuck
    Are racial tensions good or bad for our rulers?

    Are racial tensions good or bad for our rulers?

    If you mean the guys who own the media, what they think is pretty obvious.

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  19. I love how if you view comments at the NYT it often defaults to showing you the NYT’s picks. I already read what the NYT thinks; now I want to read other views!

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  20. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    “News accounts have strongly suggested, for example, that the police in St. Louis County’s many municipalities systematically target poor and minority citizens for street and traffic stops — partly to generate fines — which has the effect of both bankrupting and criminalizing whole communities.”

    Damn ‘racists’! They should have stopped-and-frisked the Negroes at no cost.

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  21. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Now you know how Palestinians feel.

    They get New-York-Timed all the time. (But the likes of Adelson and Saban complain that NY Times isn’t sufficiently pro-Zionist).

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  22. We saw the same thing happen with the Trayvon Martin fiasco. To this day I hear and read things — some written by professionals who ought to know a thing or two about fact-checking — which cite “facts” about that case which are provably false.

    Heck, to this day, the only pictures I see of Trayvon Martin on “respectable” mainstream websites are still the ones of him as a baby-faced youngster. Based on some of the comments I still encounter, I am convinced that a lot of folks sincerely believe that’s exactly what Trayvon looked like when he was shot — they really do have this image in their heads of an adorable, smiling little moppet bouncing along with a bag of Skittles, suddenly shot down in cold blood.

    There is actually cause for hope, though — at least with the Internet, the truth often manages to leak out, even if it’s suppressed at “respectable” outlets. In the old days, there were no alternative sources, and the narrative pushed by the media was just immediately set in stone. Corrections, if any, would only come decades later, in books and articles only read by scholars.

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    • Replies: @Hard Line Realist
    Well, since that 12-yo who was killed by a cop:

    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/11/protesters_block_memorial_shor.html

    probably looked a little like Trayvon when Trayvon was 12-14 it's all good, eh?

    All White(-Hispanic)s are racist. It's clear.

    (I think that it was particularly stupid of the parents of the dead 12-yo boy to allow him to carry a replica .45 Auto around in public. I think a charge of reckless endangerment against them should be considered.)
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    The media kept hyping this entire thing, always reporting with an air of apprehension that the verdict was coming as though doomsday was just around the corner. The day of the verdict Chicago television news stations gave extensive live video coverage of the protesters, complete with news anchors walking alongside the marchers and aerial views. Taking a good look it seemed like there were perhaps two hundred marchers at the peak of the event. It also struck me that some of the camera angles they were using seemed to make the numbers seem bigger. Being preceded and also followed by a lot of cops on bicycles and cars with blinking blue lights the whole thing was visually magnified. You can get more people out for the release of the latest Nike shoe or iPhone; people will camp out all night for that. Certainly nothing to compare to the St Pat’s Day parade. It’s hard to know what the people calling the shots within the media are trying to do here with this. Certainly the anchor-faces, the ones with the fifty-dollar hairdos and nickel heads, are just there because they’re told to be there and read what’s on the teleprompter.

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  24. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.:

    “It is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard.”

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  25. The NY Times: now officially in favor of witch hunts, show trials, and lynch mobs. Against whitey only, of course. …

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  26. Look at the whole pattern, working together. This is an example of how right wing, anti govt budget cutting ideology combines with low wealth tax rates, and job off shoring that reduces the livelihoods of millions, and that all combines with our racial segregation and biased policing. Police who kill unarmed citizens are not punished. So it goes on. All this produces an underclass along racial lines and with biased policing and incarceration.

    The Times reported that the St Louis county area gets large chunks of revenue from traffic stops, and many people stopped can’t pay the fines or bail. A mostly white police force stops mostly black drivers, and makes for an atmosphere of surveillance and harassment that’s more apt for a Soviet dictatorship than the US. Jail terms often result, further dragging down future earning capacity and devastating families in all ways.

    This combines with increased attitudes of fear, hostility and aggression. Both sides draw farther apart. Community policing can’t thrive. Then Stand Your Ground laws and guns for all everywhere ideology combine to produce powder kegs. Example, the young man shot dead in Walmart while looking at guns and talking on his cell phone. The cops didn’t wait to judge the situation—they were called by a paranoid shopper, and reacted like paranoid automatons themselves.

    Until more politicians forcefully point out this pattern, it will continue to be rationalized and continue. Let’s learn from South Africa.

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    • Replies: @gu
    "Let’s learn from South Africa."

    Hahahahahahahahahaha.

    You're not very informed, are you.
    , @Winston
    How about, "obey traffic laws and you will not be fined?"

    I am rather certain teenagers everywhere could make that exact same argument. Or, perhaps, they are more likely to speed?
    , @silviosilver

    Let’s learn from South Africa.
     
    That the presence of large numbers of blacks has a devastating impact on white communities? That's definitely a lesson worth learning.
  27. News accounts have strongly suggested, for example, that the police in St. Louis County’s many municipalities systematically target poor and minority citizens for street and traffic stops — partly to generate fines — which has the effect of both bankrupting and criminalizing whole communities.

    As Steve often writes, this same abusive behavior by the police takes place in the same town that the NY Times is in. It is called stop-and-frisk. Why the official paper of NYC has to travel 1000 miles to find it when the same thing is going on in their backyard is the real story that should be reported.

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  28. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    How ironic that Jews, who bitch about pogroms against them in the past, feel zero sympathy for dotters and others who suffered pogrom or Ponegroms by blacks.

    Blacks don’t like what a white cop did, so they smash dotter stores. But who cares about dotters?
    Not blue city Libs and Jews.

    Imagine if a white mob got angry over what a black cop did and smashed Jewish stores. Hmmm.

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  29. @Mr. Blank
    We saw the same thing happen with the Trayvon Martin fiasco. To this day I hear and read things — some written by professionals who ought to know a thing or two about fact-checking — which cite "facts" about that case which are provably false.

    Heck, to this day, the only pictures I see of Trayvon Martin on "respectable" mainstream websites are still the ones of him as a baby-faced youngster. Based on some of the comments I still encounter, I am convinced that a lot of folks sincerely believe that's exactly what Trayvon looked like when he was shot — they really do have this image in their heads of an adorable, smiling little moppet bouncing along with a bag of Skittles, suddenly shot down in cold blood.

    There is actually cause for hope, though — at least with the Internet, the truth often manages to leak out, even if it's suppressed at "respectable" outlets. In the old days, there were no alternative sources, and the narrative pushed by the media was just immediately set in stone. Corrections, if any, would only come decades later, in books and articles only read by scholars.

    Well, since that 12-yo who was killed by a cop:

    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/11/protesters_block_memorial_shor.html

    probably looked a little like Trayvon when Trayvon was 12-14 it’s all good, eh?

    All White(-Hispanic)s are racist. It’s clear.

    (I think that it was particularly stupid of the parents of the dead 12-yo boy to allow him to carry a replica .45 Auto around in public. I think a charge of reckless endangerment against them should be considered.)

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    • Replies: @Hard Line Realist
    Moreover, since the narrative is that the cops and whitey are all out to get blacks whenever they can, it astounds me that they don't adopt squeaky-clean behavior.

    Perhaps the narrative about DWB is just wrong.
  30. The video with Wilson does look bad, but it doesn’t change my opinion that he erroneously shot Michael Brown.
    When news accounts of this first surfaced, the claim was that Brown was shot in the back. The autopsy disproved that claim. Then the claim that Brown had his hands up, yelling “Don’t shoot!”. Then the video surfaced of someone saying that he charged the cop, along with the grand jury testimony stating this as well.
    Yes, there was the claim that Wilson had his orbital socket broken. There’s no doubt that it was not broken. Yes, there were a lot of lies floating around, and the more lies thrown about, the less credible the statements are. It was the same thing with Trayvon Martin. The initial claim was that some guy hunted down a young boy. I honestly thought that this was a crime until I read the news report that was made the day after the killing. There was an eyewitness to Martin on top of Zimmerman, the police did question him, and so on. I didn’t out-right reject Zimmerman’s guilt until I saw pictures of him taken after police arrived. It was clear that he’d been attacked.
    Interestingly, Benjamin Crump was an attorney for both of these families (Martin & Brown). And I’ve concluded that he is a liar, through and through.

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    • Replies: @Art Deco
    The video with Wilson does look bad,

    It's 15 seconds long and he utters two sentences.
    , @Anonymous
    Crump...saw him on TV...I'd say if that guy's your lawyer, time to get your affairs in order.
  31. News accounts have strongly suggested…that the police …systematically target poor and minority citizens for street and traffic stops — partly to generate fines —

    Of course.

    Because certain people never seem to have their license, insurance and registration in order.

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  32. I’d love to see a street poll taken tomorrow of a random selection of blacks in the US.

    Just one question for them – “Did Zimmerman shoot Trayvon Martin in the back?”

    85% of blacks will answer yes.

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  33. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Can’t they invent a stun gun–something stronger than taser but less lethal than real bullets–that will knock thugs out instead of killing them?

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    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...

    Can’t they invent a stun gun–something stronger than taser but less lethal than real bullets–that will knock thugs out instead of killing them?
     
    What a great idea! Why don't you volunteer to test any prototypes by stepping into a cage of hungry jaguars.
    , @Hersh
    Regarding stun guns or tasers -- It must be a half dozen times that I've heard someone on CNN say that cops need to be using tasers/stun guns rather than real guns. Its so typical of the way they deal with this case (or Zimmerman) by not dealing with the actual facts of the case. A 300 pound man who already tried to kill you is barreling down on you and you're supposed to plan on tasering him? The priority is for the cop not to get killed.

    Likewise Stephanopoulos asking Wilson if things would have gone the same way if Brown had been white, like Wilson would have allowed a white person to kill him.
  34. @Hard Line Realist
    Well, since that 12-yo who was killed by a cop:

    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/11/protesters_block_memorial_shor.html

    probably looked a little like Trayvon when Trayvon was 12-14 it's all good, eh?

    All White(-Hispanic)s are racist. It's clear.

    (I think that it was particularly stupid of the parents of the dead 12-yo boy to allow him to carry a replica .45 Auto around in public. I think a charge of reckless endangerment against them should be considered.)

    Moreover, since the narrative is that the cops and whitey are all out to get blacks whenever they can, it astounds me that they don’t adopt squeaky-clean behavior.

    Perhaps the narrative about DWB is just wrong.

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  35. This NYT crapola is precisely the sort of media incitement I’ve been talking about over the past few threads. And as Steve has pointed out, the disingenuous extremity of it just cannot be denied, nor can its intent given the context: The Grand Jury has spoken; what’s left but incite continued discord, divisiveness, distrust, rancor, violence and etc.?

    By the very fountain that proclaims it just hungers after racial harmony.

    And so, once again remember: Just like the vast vast majority of whites, the vast vast majority of blacks seem to have digested what the prosecutor and the Grand Jury did the same way; essentially saying “Hmm, I see.”

    And thus and again I think it’s a great mistake to get suckered into this race-baiting and, essentially, go off on all the supposed horrific racial problems that we have. (Not realizing that things have gotten immeasurably better since things like Watts and Sixties.)

    Instead let’s cast at least a goodly portion of our eye-sight on the professional provocateurs and the rabble-rousers in the media, who feed off discord not just economically, but emotionally too in terms of seeing their utterly unelected asses as being morally superior and speaking for imaginary masses of others.

    No matter that, time after time, none of those masses show up.

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  36. In May of 1950, a police precinct was established at 480 NW 11 Street to provide a station house for African American policemen and a courtroom for African American judges in which to adjudicate African American defendants…The building was designed by renowned Miami architect, Walter G. DeGarmo. The Black Precinct and Courthouse was the first and only one of its kind built in the nation. Miami was recognized as a pioneer in trying to bring some level of equality to policing in the black community.”

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    a station house for African American policemen and a courtroom for African American judges in which to adjudicate African American defendants
     
    Shariah?
    Or Sho'nuff-riah?
  37. As usual, both sides are full of it.

    Grand Juries always do what the prosecutors want. Always always. It seems pretty clear from the transcripts that the DA asked the cop the most softball of questions, and the anti-cop witnesses were cross-examined vigorously. So, what we had essentially was a trial with only one side questioning the witnesses. There was enough question about whether the officer’s life was in danger when Brown was coming towards Wilson that the case should have gone to a real trial. If Wilson wasn’t a cop no question he would have been charged, and cops shouldn’t get a pass to shoot civilians.

    Now, as to whether the shooting was emblematic of a big problem in America – that’s a different story. We have a guy that just finished robbing a liquor store, then got into a struggle with a cop trying to grab his gun, then went charging towards the cop and got shot with the gun that moments before he was trying to wrestle from the cop. It is a close call legally as to whether the shooting was justified, and a jury might or might not convict the cop if the DA had prosecuted.

    But if this is the worst example of racist cop violence that we can come up with, the one that gets national attention and brings people out into the streets because it is the worst of the worst – then maybe we’re not doing that bad.

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    • Replies: @jimmy
    While it is unusual that the grand jury failed to indict, it is also unusual that it was presented in the first place. Without the media and political attention, I don't think it would have been. Bunk from the start.
    , @Art Deco
    Grand Juries always do what the prosecutors want.

    In this particular case there was no recommended charge, the available evidence was presented, the jury spent 70 hours sifting it, and the evidence is being made public.
    , @JerryC

    We have a guy that just finished robbing a liquor store, then got into a struggle with a cop trying to grab his gun, then went charging towards the cop and got shot with the gun that moments before he was trying to wrestle from the cop. It is a close call legally as to whether the shooting was justified, and a jury might or might not convict the cop if the DA had prosecute.
     
    Self-contradictory much? What you are describing is not a "close call legally" at all. Are you sure you're really a lawyer?
  38. My own (few) experiences of American blacks have done them nothing but credit: however.

    Can’t anyone come up with a martyr who is smaller than 6’5″ and 300 lbs., and hasn’t just robbed a store and roughed up a clerk? Just one?

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  39. @anonymous-antimarxist
    The Mike Brown family has been calling for all police officers nation wide be equipped with Go-Pro style body cameras.

    Now assume that Officer Wilson was wearing a body camera. According to the grand jury testimony, it would have captured Big Mike in a psychotic, poor man's PCP(super high TCH pot aka LOUD + DXM dextromethorphan aka ROBOTRIPPING), fueled rage trying to beat the Officer to death with his fists and crab his gun while threatening “You're too much of a pussy to shoot me.”

    How is the "Narrative" going to explain what our lying eyes would have seen in this case?

    Of course the NYT would scream that it was incredibly racist for the Ferguson PD or the St Louis County DA to release the video.

    In the past the Cultural Marxist Media has come down really hard on body camera wearing security guards.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2297455/Darien-Long-Americas-toughest-mall-cop-FIRED-videos-tasering-shoppers.html

    Why? Because they ruin the "Narrative". All those millennials might realize they are being forced into life long student debt slavery in order to be brainwashed in Cultural Marxism. They would get to see what underclass blacks are really like up close.

    There is widespread agreement from the ACLU to many police chiefs that Go Pro style cameras should be worn by police at all time and on for all encounters with citizens. Can’t be done soon enough – will hopefully put everyone on good behavior.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    There has been a huge increase over the last decade in car cameras in police cruisers. What have been the results of that?
    , @Hard Line Realist
    I suspect that those Go Pro cameras will have the unusual habit of failing at inconvenient times.

    Better for everyone to be recording everyone else's behavior.
    , @NOTA
    +1

    That plus some kind of more independent oversight of the police would probably do a lot of good.
  40. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/24/the-20th-century-dictator-most-idolized-by-hitler.html

    Hitler should have been more like Ataturk. He might have done good. Instead, he decided to be like Napoleon and Genghis.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    It's a little late to be tone trolling Hitler.
  41. Little known crime statistic–thanks to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report statistics– more people are killed in the US by so-called ‘unarmed’ assailants, over twice as many in fact, as are killed by rifles of all types, including those scary ‘assault’ rifles.

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  42. I thought the editorial was a pretty weak effort.

    What could the NYT do? They rode that horse, and they had to come up with some sort of justification.

    As you say, speed traps as rationale for riots and arson was a pretty lame shot.

    Let it fade away. Will there be another one, or does the Obama admin just decide to give it a rest?

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    Let it fade away. Will there be another one, or does the Obama admin just decide to give it a rest?
     
    This is certainly the opportunity for the SJWs to demand a federal civil rights prosecution, isn't it? Except Holder realized he could never win the Trayvon case, and therefore dropped it. Likewise his replacement knows she/he/it will never win the Wilson case and will drop that one, too.

    If Washington Negros will not pursue these cases, why should any of the rest of us give a damn?
  43. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Dotters should be called the Collateral Demographics. They are just background extras in a Hollywood movie where blacks are heroes and whites are villains.

    It’s like in superhero movies. In the hero vs villain war, there’s a lot of damage to the surroundings, but no one cares. All that matters is the main characters in the Narritivitz.
    Negro is the hero, and white cops are bad guys.

    But whaddya expect in a nation that’s been sold on ‘gay marriage’?

    And what passes for the HIV narrative? All those homos were killed by Reaganite ‘indifference’. Right, HIV spread because ‘conservatives didn’t care’. I recall cons urging homos to be more responsible in their ‘sexual’ behavior and I recall homos just pounding away in bathhouses. But the fault is with Reagan and conservatives.

    The Narritivitz stinks. The favored groups are NEVER to blame(no matter what they do), and the blame falls on everyone else, especially white cons.
    It’s like Zionists can get away with anything. We are all Palestinians.

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  44. – OK, so you’ve got 15 seconds of video of Wilson not threatening & not arresting anybody.

    I guess you just figure that somebody or other here will be stupid enough to trust you.

    That’s so strange.

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    @Sean
    Before all this happened Wilson gave an apparently misleading report of why he arrested someone filming him (said he had the camera in his face when the footage showed it was about 20 feet away). I would not be too sure that he is telling the absolute truth.

    There are no rules for a lot of situations, but Wilson has wrote some for the one he found himself in. I don't think any cop would dare do what he did now

    Do you think cops will now allow enraged criminals to beat them to death?

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  46. @Lefty Lawyer
    There is widespread agreement from the ACLU to many police chiefs that Go Pro style cameras should be worn by police at all time and on for all encounters with citizens. Can't be done soon enough - will hopefully put everyone on good behavior.

    There has been a huge increase over the last decade in car cameras in police cruisers. What have been the results of that?

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    • Replies: @Lugash
    Things like America's Wildest Police videos.

    Body cameras are said to result in huge decreases in police brutality claims. I wonder if instead the claims are shown to be bunk, and the claimant is quietly allowed to withdraw their claim.
    , @Lefty Lawyer
    Well, I hadn't looked it up before you asked, perhaps relying on the logical fallacy that the world works logically.

    However, a quick check with The Google:

    Rialto California - body cameras (not car cameras) introduced in February 2012, public complaints against officers plunged 88% compared with the previous 12 months. Officers' use of force fell by 60%. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/04/california-police-body-cameras-cuts-violence-complaints-rialto - Wall Street Journal Article, also on Rialto - http://online.wsj.com/articles/what-happens-when-police-officers-wear-body-cameras-1408320244.

    All I could find by way of studies online we all based on the Rialto experience.

    Your question was about car mounted cameras - which I assume catch the action less of the time than body mounted.

    I suppose one could question whether the body cameras would change actual behavior. But, the Rialto results suggest a change of behavior as the article says that not only were complaints down, but actual use of force was down by 60%. I think it is reasonable to assume that some miscreants would tone it down when they see the cop is wearing a camera pointed at them - and some cops might tone down their response as well.

    Also, I know lawyers who litigate police brutality cases (both sides) and videos would absolutely help weed out unfounded cases.

    In my own experience, lawyers will often videotape a deposition when they believe there is a difficult witness or opposing counsel as the camera seems to make people not act out as much.

    Iif the Rialto study was paid for by the camera company there might be some reliability issues, but I don't know that is the case. And, of course, a study of one city is not necessarily the be all end all.

    Body cameras certainly couldn't hurt.
  47. @Tom-in-VA
    Little known crime statistic--thanks to the FBI's Uniform Crime Report statistics-- more people are killed in the US by so-called 'unarmed' assailants, over twice as many in fact, as are killed by rifles of all types, including those scary 'assault' rifles.

    That’s Mr Unnamed Assailant to you, buddy!

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  48. @Lefty Lawyer
    There is widespread agreement from the ACLU to many police chiefs that Go Pro style cameras should be worn by police at all time and on for all encounters with citizens. Can't be done soon enough - will hopefully put everyone on good behavior.

    I suspect that those Go Pro cameras will have the unusual habit of failing at inconvenient times.

    Better for everyone to be recording everyone else’s behavior.

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  49. @Sean
    Before all this happened Wilson gave an apparently misleading report of why he arrested someone filming him (said he had the camera in his face when the footage showed it was about 20 feet away). I would not be too sure that he is telling the absolute truth.

    There are no rules for a lot of situations, but Wilson has wrote some for the one he found himself in. I don't think any cop would dare do what he did now

    Blood trails and blood spatter evidence, DNA typed evidence, fiber evidence, hair evidence, ballistics evidence, three!!!! autopsies, and many eyewitness accounts all support the cop’s testimony and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the accomplice of the dead man was a fountain of self-serving prevarication.. But you’re not sure the cop is telling the truth!

    The only reasonable explanation for that is that you’re a moron.

    And it is and always will be SOP for a cop to prevent any assailant from taking away his weapon and to use any method up to and including deadly force to prevent that from happening. And for all you morons out there who have no idea what combat shooting involves, you ALWAYS shoot for the center of the body mass. This is what all firearms carrying professionals are taught, This is real life. It is not the Lone Ranger or some other Hollywood fantasy.

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    • Replies: @Sean
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcMP1sYiTno

    'Combat shooting' begs the question because whether a response appropriate to an actual combat situation is to be used can't be determined when there is no gun out. Russian SPECIAL FORCES screamed at advancing Ukrainians that they would shoot them in the legs. then the Russians brought up unarmed civilians to confront the unarmed Ukrainians.

    It is rarely the case that you will have impunity to open fire on people without guns no matter how provocatively they are behaving. People have got life for shooting people who initially threatened and came at them with a weapon , but then stopped. Shooting to kill while emptying your magazine into someone who hasn't shown they have a gun or knife is always perilously close to overreacting, and anyone who thinks there are hard and fast rules to the contrary is a fool.

  50. @Steve Sailer
    There has been a huge increase over the last decade in car cameras in police cruisers. What have been the results of that?

    Things like America’s Wildest Police videos.

    Body cameras are said to result in huge decreases in police brutality claims. I wonder if instead the claims are shown to be bunk, and the claimant is quietly allowed to withdraw their claim.

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    “The only thing that alters this future is a complete systemic collapse followed by a nationalist takeover of some sort.”

    Greece had a pretty rough economic shock recently. Spain and Italy were also hard-hit. No nationalist takeovers. And these countries are more homogeneous than the US, which leaves the Scots-Irish less space for divide and rule. Still no takeovers.

    In the coming years the powers that be will work to elect a Muslim head of state in a major European country. That might bite them in the ass in the same way that Stalin did in the 1930s. Middle-Easterners and South Asians aren’t fooled by politics as easily as whites. A guy given symbolic power because he’s “diverse” could turn on his puppet-masters if, due to similar background, he can think as clannishly as they do. And he could wrangle some real power from them. That’s already happened once on an enormous scale, with Stalin. And it could happen again within our lifetimes. As with Stalin, a turn towards cultural conservatism and majority-nationalism would be expected. And if Russia is still in revolt against the powers that be when this happens, the major European country in question could survive by moving under the Russian nuclear umbrella.

    This sort of scenario seems more likely to me than a nationalist takeover after an economic collapse.

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    which leaves the Scots-Irish less space for divide and rule.

    The moderator draws a non-zero component of his commenters from the ranks of the asylum population.
  52. @Priss Factor
    Can't they invent a stun gun--something stronger than taser but less lethal than real bullets--that will knock thugs out instead of killing them?

    Can’t they invent a stun gun–something stronger than taser but less lethal than real bullets–that will knock thugs out instead of killing them?

    What a great idea! Why don’t you volunteer to test any prototypes by stepping into a cage of hungry jaguars.

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    Can’t they invent a stun gun–something stronger than taser but less lethal than real bullets–that will knock thugs out instead of killing them?
     
    What a great idea! Why don’t you volunteer to test any prototypes by stepping into a cage of hungry jaguars.
     
    Tasers are calibrated for average male body size. Using Tasers place the officer with in closing distance of the suspect. Unless another officer is standing by with service weapon drawn, it is a really bad idea to use taser on large powerful suspects. Tasers have a long history of being rather ineffective on psychotic suspects.

    Large powerful PCP abusers having psychotic reactions are poor candidates for tasing. Think Rodney King, a known PCP abuser. Both Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown were abusers of the poor man's PCP; very high THC content pot + DXM. Just check out all the empty cough syrup bottles left at Brown's chalk out line memorials.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_use_of_dextromethorphan


    At high doses, dextromethorphan is classified as a dissociative general anesthetic and hallucinogen, similar to the controlled substances ketamine and phencyclidine (PCP).
     

    The third and fourth plateaus (600 mg, or 7.5 mg/kg and over) cause profound alterations in consciousness, and users often report out-of-body experiences or temporary psychosis.[9][10] Flanging (speeding up or slowing down) of sensory input is also a characteristic effect of recreational use.
     
  53. @Priss Factor
    Can't they invent a stun gun--something stronger than taser but less lethal than real bullets--that will knock thugs out instead of killing them?

    Regarding stun guns or tasers — It must be a half dozen times that I’ve heard someone on CNN say that cops need to be using tasers/stun guns rather than real guns. Its so typical of the way they deal with this case (or Zimmerman) by not dealing with the actual facts of the case. A 300 pound man who already tried to kill you is barreling down on you and you’re supposed to plan on tasering him? The priority is for the cop not to get killed.

    Likewise Stephanopoulos asking Wilson if things would have gone the same way if Brown had been white, like Wilson would have allowed a white person to kill him.

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    • Replies: @David In TN
    If Brown had been white or Wilson black, this would never have been a national story. The George Stephanopoulos's of this world would have no interest whatsoever.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    I suspect the same shots with rubber bullets would have stopped Brown as well (though they aren't always non-lethal).
  54. In the past the Cultural Marxist Media has come down really hard on body camera wearing security guards.

    Exactly. Those calling for cameras would scream bloody raciss if the cops start wearing cameras. Same with those complaining about blacks being disproportionately disciplined in schools. I’ve always said just put cameras in the schools and we’d see that far from being discriminated against, blacks were getting away with execrable behavior daily. Oh, how I hope they put cameras on cops, and in schools. Do shine light on how vile these creatures are, and how utterly phony the narrative is.

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  55. I’d love to see a street poll taken tomorrow of a random selection of blacks in the US. Just one question for them – “Did Zimmerman shoot Trayvon Martin in the back?” 85% of blacks will answer yes.

    Hell, I’ll bet if you asked, “Did Zimmerman shoot Michael Brown in the back?” 85% of blacks will answer yes.

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    • Replies: @David In TN
    I disagree slightly. Instead of 85% of blacks answering yes, it would be closer to 95%.
    , @Nathan Wartooth
    Howard Stern goes through the ghetto and asks them questions, it's way more embarrassing than that.
  56. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    The only civilization-saving force I can imagine besides the one I outlined above is technology. Western Civ. seemed robust until the advent of mass media. If some technological change could sweep mass media away, then maybe Western Civ. could start to recover. The World Wide Web has already failed to kill mass media, so it would have to be something else.

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  57. @Lefty Lawyer
    There is widespread agreement from the ACLU to many police chiefs that Go Pro style cameras should be worn by police at all time and on for all encounters with citizens. Can't be done soon enough - will hopefully put everyone on good behavior.

    +1

    That plus some kind of more independent oversight of the police would probably do a lot of good.

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  58. @Steve Sailer
    There has been a huge increase over the last decade in car cameras in police cruisers. What have been the results of that?

    Well, I hadn’t looked it up before you asked, perhaps relying on the logical fallacy that the world works logically.

    However, a quick check with The Google:

    Rialto California – body cameras (not car cameras) introduced in February 2012, public complaints against officers plunged 88% compared with the previous 12 months. Officers’ use of force fell by 60%. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/04/california-police-body-cameras-cuts-violence-complaints-rialto – Wall Street Journal Article, also on Rialto – http://online.wsj.com/articles/what-happens-when-police-officers-wear-body-cameras-1408320244.

    All I could find by way of studies online we all based on the Rialto experience.

    Your question was about car mounted cameras – which I assume catch the action less of the time than body mounted.

    I suppose one could question whether the body cameras would change actual behavior. But, the Rialto results suggest a change of behavior as the article says that not only were complaints down, but actual use of force was down by 60%. I think it is reasonable to assume that some miscreants would tone it down when they see the cop is wearing a camera pointed at them – and some cops might tone down their response as well.

    Also, I know lawyers who litigate police brutality cases (both sides) and videos would absolutely help weed out unfounded cases.

    In my own experience, lawyers will often videotape a deposition when they believe there is a difficult witness or opposing counsel as the camera seems to make people not act out as much.

    Iif the Rialto study was paid for by the camera company there might be some reliability issues, but I don’t know that is the case. And, of course, a study of one city is not necessarily the be all end all.

    Body cameras certainly couldn’t hurt.

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  59. “I don’t think any cop would dare do what he did now.”

    http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2014/07/30/deliberations-continue-in-road-rage-murder-trial/

    Cop shoots an unarmed man. An unarmed man with his hands up. A man who provided much less reason to shoot him than Brown did to shoot him. Result — the cop gets off scot free and the sort of people who pretend to care about police brutality are completely silent.

    Of course in this case the cop is black and the unarmed man he killed is white. That makes all the difference.

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  60. @anonymous-antimarxist
    The Mike Brown family has been calling for all police officers nation wide be equipped with Go-Pro style body cameras.

    Now assume that Officer Wilson was wearing a body camera. According to the grand jury testimony, it would have captured Big Mike in a psychotic, poor man's PCP(super high TCH pot aka LOUD + DXM dextromethorphan aka ROBOTRIPPING), fueled rage trying to beat the Officer to death with his fists and crab his gun while threatening “You're too much of a pussy to shoot me.”

    How is the "Narrative" going to explain what our lying eyes would have seen in this case?

    Of course the NYT would scream that it was incredibly racist for the Ferguson PD or the St Louis County DA to release the video.

    In the past the Cultural Marxist Media has come down really hard on body camera wearing security guards.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2297455/Darien-Long-Americas-toughest-mall-cop-FIRED-videos-tasering-shoppers.html

    Why? Because they ruin the "Narrative". All those millennials might realize they are being forced into life long student debt slavery in order to be brainwashed in Cultural Marxism. They would get to see what underclass blacks are really like up close.

    Even if Wilson had a body camera it would still have been “He didn’t have to shoot him. Wasn’t there a way to stop the kid without killing him?”

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  61. @matt
    "I thought you were complaining that the Democratic prosecutor didn’t step aside altogether, and now you are complaining that he stepped aside partly."

    First they wanted him to step down, thinking he was going to deliberately half-ass his job. Then, when he fulfilled their predictions by deliberately half-assing his job, they complained that he half-assed his job! Make up your minds, libtards!

    Then, when he fulfilled their predictions by deliberately half-assing his job, they complained that he half-assed his job!

    He provided the grand jury with the evidence gathered investigators as well as witnesses and they spent 70 hours digesting it, vastly more attention than an ordinary case gets. You can’t stop lying, can you?

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  62. @Half Canadian
    The video with Wilson does look bad, but it doesn't change my opinion that he erroneously shot Michael Brown.
    When news accounts of this first surfaced, the claim was that Brown was shot in the back. The autopsy disproved that claim. Then the claim that Brown had his hands up, yelling "Don't shoot!". Then the video surfaced of someone saying that he charged the cop, along with the grand jury testimony stating this as well.
    Yes, there was the claim that Wilson had his orbital socket broken. There's no doubt that it was not broken. Yes, there were a lot of lies floating around, and the more lies thrown about, the less credible the statements are. It was the same thing with Trayvon Martin. The initial claim was that some guy hunted down a young boy. I honestly thought that this was a crime until I read the news report that was made the day after the killing. There was an eyewitness to Martin on top of Zimmerman, the police did question him, and so on. I didn't out-right reject Zimmerman's guilt until I saw pictures of him taken after police arrived. It was clear that he'd been attacked.
    Interestingly, Benjamin Crump was an attorney for both of these families (Martin & Brown). And I've concluded that he is a liar, through and through.

    The video with Wilson does look bad,

    It’s 15 seconds long and he utters two sentences.

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  63. @Lefty Lawyer
    As usual, both sides are full of it.

    Grand Juries always do what the prosecutors want. Always always. It seems pretty clear from the transcripts that the DA asked the cop the most softball of questions, and the anti-cop witnesses were cross-examined vigorously. So, what we had essentially was a trial with only one side questioning the witnesses. There was enough question about whether the officer's life was in danger when Brown was coming towards Wilson that the case should have gone to a real trial. If Wilson wasn't a cop no question he would have been charged, and cops shouldn't get a pass to shoot civilians.

    Now, as to whether the shooting was emblematic of a big problem in America - that's a different story. We have a guy that just finished robbing a liquor store, then got into a struggle with a cop trying to grab his gun, then went charging towards the cop and got shot with the gun that moments before he was trying to wrestle from the cop. It is a close call legally as to whether the shooting was justified, and a jury might or might not convict the cop if the DA had prosecuted.

    But if this is the worst example of racist cop violence that we can come up with, the one that gets national attention and brings people out into the streets because it is the worst of the worst - then maybe we're not doing that bad.

    While it is unusual that the grand jury failed to indict, it is also unusual that it was presented in the first place. Without the media and political attention, I don’t think it would have been. Bunk from the start.

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  64. @Lefty Lawyer
    As usual, both sides are full of it.

    Grand Juries always do what the prosecutors want. Always always. It seems pretty clear from the transcripts that the DA asked the cop the most softball of questions, and the anti-cop witnesses were cross-examined vigorously. So, what we had essentially was a trial with only one side questioning the witnesses. There was enough question about whether the officer's life was in danger when Brown was coming towards Wilson that the case should have gone to a real trial. If Wilson wasn't a cop no question he would have been charged, and cops shouldn't get a pass to shoot civilians.

    Now, as to whether the shooting was emblematic of a big problem in America - that's a different story. We have a guy that just finished robbing a liquor store, then got into a struggle with a cop trying to grab his gun, then went charging towards the cop and got shot with the gun that moments before he was trying to wrestle from the cop. It is a close call legally as to whether the shooting was justified, and a jury might or might not convict the cop if the DA had prosecuted.

    But if this is the worst example of racist cop violence that we can come up with, the one that gets national attention and brings people out into the streets because it is the worst of the worst - then maybe we're not doing that bad.

    Grand Juries always do what the prosecutors want.

    In this particular case there was no recommended charge, the available evidence was presented, the jury spent 70 hours sifting it, and the evidence is being made public.

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  65. @Anon
    "The only thing that alters this future is a complete systemic collapse followed by a nationalist takeover of some sort."

    Greece had a pretty rough economic shock recently. Spain and Italy were also hard-hit. No nationalist takeovers. And these countries are more homogeneous than the US, which leaves the Scots-Irish less space for divide and rule. Still no takeovers.

    In the coming years the powers that be will work to elect a Muslim head of state in a major European country. That might bite them in the ass in the same way that Stalin did in the 1930s. Middle-Easterners and South Asians aren't fooled by politics as easily as whites. A guy given symbolic power because he's "diverse" could turn on his puppet-masters if, due to similar background, he can think as clannishly as they do. And he could wrangle some real power from them. That's already happened once on an enormous scale, with Stalin. And it could happen again within our lifetimes. As with Stalin, a turn towards cultural conservatism and majority-nationalism would be expected. And if Russia is still in revolt against the powers that be when this happens, the major European country in question could survive by moving under the Russian nuclear umbrella.

    This sort of scenario seems more likely to me than a nationalist takeover after an economic collapse.

    which leaves the Scots-Irish less space for divide and rule.

    The moderator draws a non-zero component of his commenters from the ranks of the asylum population.

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    So is it your contention that the Scots-Irish {wink} have zero political influence and zero cultural clout? If it's non-zero, then why isn't it permissible to comment on the nature of it?
  66. @Hersh
    Regarding stun guns or tasers -- It must be a half dozen times that I've heard someone on CNN say that cops need to be using tasers/stun guns rather than real guns. Its so typical of the way they deal with this case (or Zimmerman) by not dealing with the actual facts of the case. A 300 pound man who already tried to kill you is barreling down on you and you're supposed to plan on tasering him? The priority is for the cop not to get killed.

    Likewise Stephanopoulos asking Wilson if things would have gone the same way if Brown had been white, like Wilson would have allowed a white person to kill him.

    If Brown had been white or Wilson black, this would never have been a national story. The George Stephanopoulos’s of this world would have no interest whatsoever.

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  67. @Harry Baldwin
    I’d love to see a street poll taken tomorrow of a random selection of blacks in the US. Just one question for them – “Did Zimmerman shoot Trayvon Martin in the back?” 85% of blacks will answer yes.

    Hell, I'll bet if you asked, “Did Zimmerman shoot Michael Brown in the back?” 85% of blacks will answer yes.

    I disagree slightly. Instead of 85% of blacks answering yes, it would be closer to 95%.

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  68. “I’d love to see a street poll taken tomorrow of a random selection of blacks in the US. Just one question for them – “Did Zimmerman shoot Trayvon Martin in the back?” 85% of blacks will answer yes.

    Hell, I’ll bet if you asked, “Did Zimmerman shoot Michael Brown in the back?” 85% of blacks will answer yes.”

    85 percent of Blacks will answer Yes, if you asked them if George Zimmerman teamed up with Officer Darren Wilson to kill Biggie Smalls and 2Pac Shakur.

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    @Priss Factor
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/24/the-20th-century-dictator-most-idolized-by-hitler.html

    Hitler should have been more like Ataturk. He might have done good. Instead, he decided to be like Napoleon and Genghis.

    It’s a little late to be tone trolling Hitler.

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  70. “The NY Times: now officially in favor of witch hunts, show trials, and lynch mobs. Against whitey only, of course. …”

    The New York Times revealed the home address of where Officer Darren Wilson lives. They might as well put a million dollar bounty on his head.

    I hope everybody who works for The New York Times burns in hell when they die.

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  71. You have to admit the Ferguson decision took the President’s executive order on immigration out of the news cycle. Hmmm. What did he know and when did he know it?

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    "You have to admit the Ferguson decision took the President’s executive order on immigration out of the news cycle. Hmmm."

    It did, didn't it?
  72. Video on white versus black racism: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fb6RhyJVKgY

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    White kid with flat-brim hat trash wear, black kid in skinny jeans and sockhead hipster garb. These people were reading the class code as much as color. Reverse the uniform, and I'd bet real money on a different outcome.
  73. @Lefty Lawyer
    As usual, both sides are full of it.

    Grand Juries always do what the prosecutors want. Always always. It seems pretty clear from the transcripts that the DA asked the cop the most softball of questions, and the anti-cop witnesses were cross-examined vigorously. So, what we had essentially was a trial with only one side questioning the witnesses. There was enough question about whether the officer's life was in danger when Brown was coming towards Wilson that the case should have gone to a real trial. If Wilson wasn't a cop no question he would have been charged, and cops shouldn't get a pass to shoot civilians.

    Now, as to whether the shooting was emblematic of a big problem in America - that's a different story. We have a guy that just finished robbing a liquor store, then got into a struggle with a cop trying to grab his gun, then went charging towards the cop and got shot with the gun that moments before he was trying to wrestle from the cop. It is a close call legally as to whether the shooting was justified, and a jury might or might not convict the cop if the DA had prosecuted.

    But if this is the worst example of racist cop violence that we can come up with, the one that gets national attention and brings people out into the streets because it is the worst of the worst - then maybe we're not doing that bad.

    We have a guy that just finished robbing a liquor store, then got into a struggle with a cop trying to grab his gun, then went charging towards the cop and got shot with the gun that moments before he was trying to wrestle from the cop. It is a close call legally as to whether the shooting was justified, and a jury might or might not convict the cop if the DA had prosecute.

    Self-contradictory much? What you are describing is not a “close call legally” at all. Are you sure you’re really a lawyer?

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  74. “I’ve always said just put cameras in the schools and we’d see that far from being discriminated against, blacks were getting away with execrable behavior daily. Oh, how I hope they put cameras on cops, and in schools.”

    Yes. Yes. Yes.

    “Can’t they invent a stun gun–something stronger than taser but less lethal than real bullets–that will knock thugs out instead of killing them?”

    Exactly this. It must be possible. A guy could make his first billion that way. It would as big as Alfred Nobel inventing dynamite, only less explosive. Seriously, this would have millions of applications and change everything.

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    I hate living in the era of The Second Great Coming of Yellow Journalism. If news outlets were more solvent, they’d be calmer and more rational. The louder they shriek, the worse their finances are. Salon and New York Times are in dire financial straights. I just wish they’d keel over and die already.

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  76. Lefty Lawyer wrote:

    “There was enough question about whether the officer’s life was in danger when Brown was coming towards Wilson that the case should have gone to a real trial. If Wilson wasn’t a cop no question he would have been charged, and cops shouldn’t get a pass to shoot civilians.”

    I see that this is of a piece with a clot similar quasi-sophisticated sounding but in fact sophistic crap that’s now being peddled by The Usual Suspects, to the point of condemning the D.A. here for even putting the Officer on the stand in front of the Grand Jury and allowing him to tell his story. (With at least one fount of such crap using a quote from a Scalia opinion saying that a Grand Jury’s job is just to see if there’s probable cause to arguably support a D.A.’s desired charge, which *still* is crap here.)

    And I’ll tell you right now why it’s all crap.

    Because of the Missouri law of self defense—just for civilians alone, not including any special considerations or rights that might be afforded to police officers—there is indeed such a thing as the right of self defense. And the primary coordinate/consideration thereunder is *not* whether a shooter was really under the belief they were protecting themself from death or great bodily harm, but instead whether a shooter *believed* that was what they were doing, reasonably.

    And here’s the kicker; where that defense is raised under any arguable circumstances any D.A. wanting to overcome it must prove—*beyond a reasonable doubt*—that a shooter had no such reasonable mental belief. Either it wasn’t reasonable, or it didn’t really exist.

    So, first off, for any D.A. in the present circumstances, knowing what the Officer was saying, to not allow the Officer to testify to the Grand Jury or to not present at least the Officer’s statement would be to ignore a crucial element that they have to believe they can prove at any subsequent trial. And the failure to do so would, rightfully, be considered to be just about the greatest abuse of a Grand Jury imaginable. It would be tantamount to instructing a Grand Jury to consider whether X crime was committed but then in defining how the law defines X crime omitting one of its elements. Just about the grossest misconduct imaginable.

    And as regards Lefty Lawyer’s statements here, not only did we have other witnesses saying that Brown was charging the officer when the officer shot him, but we inarguably had an even *prior* instance of “first aggression” by Mr. Brown when he reached into the Officer’s squad and started tussling with him. (Even discounting the Officer’s testimony that such tussling involved going for and grabbing his gun.)

    So, what do we have here? Even if we take one sole statement by the Officer—I acted in self-defense—what we have is testimony that Brown first aggressed at the squad (with motive since he was in possession of stolen goods, and with no-one disputing that he went for the Officer’s gun); independent testimony that the Officer did was any Officer is entitled to do and *should* do which is go after Brown when Brown started running; and then independent testimony that Brown turned and charged the Officer; that the Officer started firing and then stopped as Brown seemed to stop or pause; and then a continuation of the charge and more firing with the stopping bullet being to the top of the head consistent with a charging stance.

    And yet here we have (Lazy) Lefty Lawyer saying that there was enough evidence of a D.A. to show—beyond a reasonable doubt!—that the Officer was *not* reasonably in fear of death or great bodily harm from this charging 300 lb. individual who indisputably had aggressed before and tried to grab his gun, and was now aggressing again.

    The disingenuity now starting to fly around is just blinding, just as in the NY Times editorial Steve noted. And it’s a lot like the disingenuity recently discussed elsewhere here with so called “predatory lending”—a/k/a giving money to people who ask for it.

    E.g.: Did the D.A., who previously had been called biased towards cops, take pains to himself not be involved in the Grand Jury proceedings? Yes, but now suddenly that he did, he’s *criticized* for it. Or *criticized* for not making the decision himself and using a Grand Jury.

    And did he then immediately release all the evidence the Grand Jury saw? Yes … except when the result is now welcomed, suddenly it becomes a non-standard practice that throws suspicion on things.

    And did he indeed present *all* the evidence that existed to the Grand Jury which isn’t usually done? Yet, except for instead of being thought great because of its thoroughness, once again its called suspicious or blasted as being different from the norm.

    As I said before, the disingenuousness involved in this kind of thing is so extreme, so blatant, that the only possible motive for it is for the love of incitement, hatred trolling and etc.

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    @Sean
    Before all this happened Wilson gave an apparently misleading report of why he arrested someone filming him (said he had the camera in his face when the footage showed it was about 20 feet away). I would not be too sure that he is telling the absolute truth.

    There are no rules for a lot of situations, but Wilson has wrote some for the one he found himself in. I don't think any cop would dare do what he did now

    it’s still unknown whether that’s Wilson. Sundance at the Conservative Tree House said that it’s not him.

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  78. @C. Van Carter

    "In May of 1950, a police precinct was established at 480 NW 11 Street to provide a station house for African American policemen and a courtroom for African American judges in which to adjudicate African American defendants...The building was designed by renowned Miami architect, Walter G. DeGarmo. The Black Precinct and Courthouse was the first and only one of its kind built in the nation. Miami was recognized as a pioneer in trying to bring some level of equality to policing in the black community."
     

    a station house for African American policemen and a courtroom for African American judges in which to adjudicate African American defendants

    Shariah?
    Or Sho’nuff-riah?

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  79. @Hersh
    Regarding stun guns or tasers -- It must be a half dozen times that I've heard someone on CNN say that cops need to be using tasers/stun guns rather than real guns. Its so typical of the way they deal with this case (or Zimmerman) by not dealing with the actual facts of the case. A 300 pound man who already tried to kill you is barreling down on you and you're supposed to plan on tasering him? The priority is for the cop not to get killed.

    Likewise Stephanopoulos asking Wilson if things would have gone the same way if Brown had been white, like Wilson would have allowed a white person to kill him.

    I suspect the same shots with rubber bullets would have stopped Brown as well (though they aren’t always non-lethal).

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    Rubber bullets are meant to be used against rioters not life or death situations. Also when is the officer supposed to load up on these rounds or do you expect the cops to go around with their service weapons always loaded with them?

    The criminal class would love the latter, because the cops are defenseless against them.

    And of course the moment some thug gets killed by the rubber bullets, you'll and others of your ilk will be demanding they take the guns away from cops altogether to make it safe for criminals.
    , @anonymous-antimarxist

    I suspect the same shots with rubber bullets would have stopped Brown as well (though they aren’t always non-lethal)
     
    .

    What stupid nonsense!!!

    Michael Brown was hit six times before the fatal shoot to the head with 40 caliber bullets from a Sig Sauer P229. Only the seventh bullet to the top of the head stopped him cold.


    ’I carry Sig Sauer, a P229 .40 caliber.’
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2848666/In-unedited-officer-Darren-Wilson-s-account-happened-day-shot-dead-Michael-Brown.html

    9mm vs 40 cal
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJhAFSCeDB0
    Recoil
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FxSPAEbj48

    Officer Wilson was using the optimal handgun in terms of power and ammo capacity for a man his size to use. He still had to fire 12 shots out 13 rounds in his clip.

    Rubber bullets? Hell why not just use a super soaker???

    , @Brutusale
    Google Victoria Snelgrove. I think "non-lethal" measures are more notable for how often they're not.

    BTW, the Boston cop who shot her was named Rochefort Milien. Guess the race.

  80. @Jus' Sayin'...

    Can’t they invent a stun gun–something stronger than taser but less lethal than real bullets–that will knock thugs out instead of killing them?
     
    What a great idea! Why don't you volunteer to test any prototypes by stepping into a cage of hungry jaguars.

    Can’t they invent a stun gun–something stronger than taser but less lethal than real bullets–that will knock thugs out instead of killing them?

    What a great idea! Why don’t you volunteer to test any prototypes by stepping into a cage of hungry jaguars.

    Tasers are calibrated for average male body size. Using Tasers place the officer with in closing distance of the suspect. Unless another officer is standing by with service weapon drawn, it is a really bad idea to use taser on large powerful suspects. Tasers have a long history of being rather ineffective on psychotic suspects.

    Large powerful PCP abusers having psychotic reactions are poor candidates for tasing. Think Rodney King, a known PCP abuser. Both Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown were abusers of the poor man’s PCP; very high THC content pot + DXM. Just check out all the empty cough syrup bottles left at Brown’s chalk out line memorials.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_use_of_dextromethorphan

    At high doses, dextromethorphan is classified as a dissociative general anesthetic and hallucinogen, similar to the controlled substances ketamine and phencyclidine (PCP).

    The third and fourth plateaus (600 mg, or 7.5 mg/kg and over) cause profound alterations in consciousness, and users often report out-of-body experiences or temporary psychosis.[9][10] Flanging (speeding up or slowing down) of sensory input is also a characteristic effect of recreational use.

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  81. Oh, how I hope they put cameras on cops, and in schools. Do shine light on how vile these creatures are, and how utterly phony the narrative is.

    I’m all for the body-cams and expect it won’t have the effect the leftists envision. Remember the recent news item when a black reverend claimed a police officer was incredibly rude and abusive to him during a traffic stop? The officer was wearing a camera which showed his behavior was completely courteous and professional. http://toprightnews.com/?p=5854

    One of the reasons the police in Sanford believed in Zimmerman’s innocence was that after they took his statement, the interrogating officer said, “You know we have the whole incident recorded on video.” Usually when the cop said that the suspect would immediately start revising his story, but Zimmerman said, “Thank god, I hoped someone filmed it. ” I imagine that would have been Darren Wilson’s reaction.

    Granted, cameras have caught bad cops doing some really deplorable things, but that’s another good reason for them. Let’s get rid of the bad apples and support the good ones.

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  82. I suspect the same shots with rubber bullets would have stopped Brown as well (though they aren’t always non-lethal).

    You probably shouldn’t venture opinions when you obviously have no expertise on the subject.

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    Are you suggesting a rubber bullet to the top of Brown's head at the same range wouldn't have stopped him?
  83. Someone has inordinate confidence in this generation. Here’s Isabel Wilkerson, Author, on the PBS Newshour:

    “I think the people have heard the stories of what happened in previous generations. We would all like to believe that these things were taken care of, were resolved in previous decades, during the civil rights movement, and also the effort to get to these Northern cities.

    One of the things that, you know, struck me in the first night, the night of the announcement, was that the protests occurred, the first, biggest protest occurred in places like Washington, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Seattle, Los Angeles, and Oakland. And all of those cities were the receiving stations, the places of refuge for the ancestors of the people that we’re now seeing who are now protesting their treatment at the hands of the police.

    And so there’s this connection across the generations, when people are recognizing that there have been the unmet promises of their ancestors’ dreams and that they’re living still with the after effect of the response to the arrival of all these people. ”

    Or maybe some youngsters saw an opportunity to get a free flat-screen TV.

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  84. One thing stands out about the apologists of Brown – both black and white. Almost to a one they seem to agree that there is nothing wrong with attacking a cop in his cruiser and trying to take his gun.

    Then there are the loons who think Wilson should have tasered him or shot his legs out.

    But are no goes out the gate for obvious reasons. For starters, Brown escalated the situation into a life or death decision for Wilson. Hoping a taser stops a 300lb enraged monster charging at you is short of suicidal. If it fails, you won’t be able to get to your gun and you’re toast, and if he grabs the officer while the taser is still active, it takes him out as well. Shooting out the legs, that only happens in Hollywood and only shows the total ignorance of those who advocate it – usually anti-gun nuts from the safety of their luxury condos or mother’s basement.

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    Brown's apologists-black and white, also saw nothing wrong with stealing merchandise and assaulting a store clerk.
    , @Mr. Blank

    One thing stands out about the apologists of Brown – both black and white. Almost to a one they seem to agree that there is nothing wrong with attacking a cop in his cruiser and trying to take his gun.
     
    That part has been particularly disturbing to me, as I have loved ones in law enforcement. I was also very disturbed by some of the flimsy excuses people gave for Trayvon Martin beating the crap out of Zimmerman.

    Although nobody ever comes right out and says it in exactly these words, I've repeatedly encountered defenders of Mike Brown and Trayvon Martin who strongly imply that blacks have some kind of qualified right to beat up non-blacks with little pretext and without fear of serious reprisal. This certainly seems to an article of faith among some of the more hostile "ghetto" blacks.

    I wish somebody would have the guts to just lay their cards on the table and make this argument explicitly, so we could all quit pretending. Haven't other rival ethnic factions throughout history been able to come to a reasonable understanding by bluntly discussing the issues this way? Heck, I bet many folks would be willing to tolerate a higher threshold of abuse from certain communities — "they're just letting off steam; let it slide" — as long as everybody could agree on a set of clear and consistent ground rules: "Do X all you want up to point Y, but push it even a micrometer further, and we will come down on you like a ton of bricks."
  85. @Dave Pinsen
    I suspect the same shots with rubber bullets would have stopped Brown as well (though they aren't always non-lethal).

    Rubber bullets are meant to be used against rioters not life or death situations. Also when is the officer supposed to load up on these rounds or do you expect the cops to go around with their service weapons always loaded with them?

    The criminal class would love the latter, because the cops are defenseless against them.

    And of course the moment some thug gets killed by the rubber bullets, you’ll and others of your ilk will be demanding they take the guns away from cops altogether to make it safe for criminals.

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    No, I noted in my original comment that they are sometimes fatal.
  86. Speaking of your Takimag column, why is the drawing of a “looter” showing a white guy?

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    Speaking of your Takimag column, why is the drawing of a “looter” showing a white guy?
     
    A google image search for 'looter', 'robber', 'mugger', 'knife crime' etc will show that by and large only white men commit violent crime on planet Earth.
  87. @Meredith
    Look at the whole pattern, working together. This is an example of how right wing, anti govt budget cutting ideology combines with low wealth tax rates, and job off shoring that reduces the livelihoods of millions, and that all combines with our racial segregation and biased policing. Police who kill unarmed citizens are not punished. So it goes on. All this produces an underclass along racial lines and with biased policing and incarceration.

    The Times reported that the St Louis county area gets large chunks of revenue from traffic stops, and many people stopped can’t pay the fines or bail. A mostly white police force stops mostly black drivers, and makes for an atmosphere of surveillance and harassment that’s more apt for a Soviet dictatorship than the US. Jail terms often result, further dragging down future earning capacity and devastating families in all ways.

    This combines with increased attitudes of fear, hostility and aggression. Both sides draw farther apart. Community policing can’t thrive. Then Stand Your Ground laws and guns for all everywhere ideology combine to produce powder kegs. Example, the young man shot dead in Walmart while looking at guns and talking on his cell phone. The cops didn’t wait to judge the situation—they were called by a paranoid shopper, and reacted like paranoid automatons themselves.

    Until more politicians forcefully point out this pattern, it will continue to be rationalized and continue. Let's learn from South Africa.

    “Let’s learn from South Africa.”

    Hahahahahahahahahaha.

    You’re not very informed, are you.

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  88. @Dave Pinsen
    I suspect the same shots with rubber bullets would have stopped Brown as well (though they aren't always non-lethal).

    I suspect the same shots with rubber bullets would have stopped Brown as well (though they aren’t always non-lethal)

    .

    What stupid nonsense!!!

    Michael Brown was hit six times before the fatal shoot to the head with 40 caliber bullets from a Sig Sauer P229. Only the seventh bullet to the top of the head stopped him cold.

    ’I carry Sig Sauer, a P229 .40 caliber.’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2848666/In-unedited-officer-Darren-Wilson-s-account-happened-day-shot-dead-Michael-Brown.html

    9mm vs 40 cal

    Recoil

    Officer Wilson was using the optimal handgun in terms of power and ammo capacity for a man his size to use. He still had to fire 12 shots out 13 rounds in his clip.

    Rubber bullets? Hell why not just use a super soaker???

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    A rubber bullet of similar caliber & velocity to the top of Brown's head would not have stopped him - is that your claim?
  89. “Look at the whole pattern, working together. This is an example of how right wing, anti govt budget cutting ideology combines with low wealth tax rates, and job off shoring that reduces the livelihoods of millions, and that all combines with our racial segregation and biased policing. Police who kill unarmed citizens are not punished. So it goes on. All this produces an underclass along racial lines and with biased policing and incarceration.”

    You are profoundly idiotic.

    there is no “biased policing and incarceration”. Blacks are violent criminals when compared to whites and orientals, which is why they get hauled off to jail all the time. Policemen killing “unarmed citizens” is not a bad thing, especially if they are social viruses with Darwin Award level stupidity like Mikey Brown.

    I know you’re a woman and thus, most likely a human parasite, but believe it or not: there are people who have to be deprived off their money so your silly little causes can be funded by mordor on the Potomac. In other words: budget cuts are a good thing.

    ” that’s more apt for a Soviet dictatorship than the US.”

    Communist whining about Sovet style dictatorships. Lol.

    “Then Stand Your Ground laws and guns for all everywhere ideology combine to produce powder kegs.”

    I will repeat myself: you’re a woman. Your opinion about guns and the force that keeps people from murdering white people is utterly without merit, since you’ve probably never been punched in the face. What would you know about violence?

    Do you even know what the absence of Stand Your Ground laws would lead to? Do you even know what they say you can do?

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  90. Auster’s law vindicated yet again: “the worse blacks and other designated minority groups behave, the more this non-white failure must be blamed on white racism”

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    Yes, and there even bringing back the language of the 1968 Kerner Report.
  91. Yeah, the Big Fantasy is proving itself to be utterly invincible. I’ve been reading about the Brown fiasco at NYT and HuffPo. The contradictory or outright BS accounts of the shooting by pro-Brown witnesses are being explained away at the NYT, and no mention is made of anything that makes Mike Brown look bad has been made at HuffPo. There is certainly little talk of his robbing a store and roughing up the man who tried to stop him.

    Doubling down, indeed. I wonder what, if anything, motivates these hard core liberals to cling to such irrational beliefs. At least those people who had faith in George W. Bush’s WMD line of shit had the decency to shut up after a few years, but the anti-white SJW religion soldiers on decade after decade. I just wish I could see behind the curtain and know what’s behind all this. They can’t honestly be this credulous – not all of them.

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  92. @Sean
    Before all this happened Wilson gave an apparently misleading report of why he arrested someone filming him (said he had the camera in his face when the footage showed it was about 20 feet away). I would not be too sure that he is telling the absolute truth.

    There are no rules for a lot of situations, but Wilson has wrote some for the one he found himself in. I don't think any cop would dare do what he did now

    Sean, you are repeating an inaccurate story. The officer to whom you refer was NOT Wilson. True, they both have light hair and skin and a receding hairline but that is another Ferguson officer and someone put it online saying it was Wilson.

    Look again at the pic. That guy is not 6’4″. He is, however an officer in Ferguson.

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    @Hard Line Realist

    There are no rules for a lot of situations, but Wilson has wrote some for the one he found himself in.
     
    Has American English really gone that far to shit?

    I don’t think any cop would dare do what he did now.
     
    Really? How about this one:

    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/11/protesters_block_memorial_shor.html

    Synopsis: 12-yo AfAm boy had a replica .45. He's dead. White cop shot him. It happened last Saturday.

    Sadly, after a 19 year old black college freshman shot and killed a 13 year old white kid with an air gun in 2001, the City of Cleveland redefined air guns (aka “toys”) as “firearms” in 2002.

    The white child, a nice parochial school kid, was gathering pears with his friends from pear trees at a garden center in Cleveland to give to old folks. The Negro college kid shot him in the back and killed him during a “prank” drive-by.

    Negros are pretty good shots with “toy” air guns — at least when it comes to killing white children for sport. So don’t buy the MSM “toy gun” or “BB gun” business.

    Of course, the false narrative by lefties is that the NRA and anti-gun freaks prevented laws against air guns in Ohio. But Cleveland has had those laws since 2002, after the last Negro air gun murder.

    A “firearm” in Cleveland “means any deadly weapon capable of expelling or propelling one (1) or more projectiles by the action of an explosive or combustible propellant or by pump action or by compressed gas.” See the Cleveland Revised Code entry for “firearm“.

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    @Shouting Thomas
    I thought the editorial was a pretty weak effort.

    What could the NYT do? They rode that horse, and they had to come up with some sort of justification.

    As you say, speed traps as rationale for riots and arson was a pretty lame shot.

    Let it fade away. Will there be another one, or does the Obama admin just decide to give it a rest?

    Let it fade away. Will there be another one, or does the Obama admin just decide to give it a rest?

    This is certainly the opportunity for the SJWs to demand a federal civil rights prosecution, isn’t it? Except Holder realized he could never win the Trayvon case, and therefore dropped it. Likewise his replacement knows she/he/it will never win the Wilson case and will drop that one, too.

    If Washington Negros will not pursue these cases, why should any of the rest of us give a damn?

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  95. I usually hang in there to the bitter end on the latest BIG STORY, no matter how long it goes on. But I gotta tell ya. I am now officially beaten down by Ferguson, the media coverage of Ferguson, what Ferguson means, what Ferguson says about us all, where do we go from Ferguson, why Nixon called up the NG because of Ferguson but didn’t deploy them, etc.

    Well, I’m a little interested in that last one, but only because it’s still kinda fresh.

    But other than that, I gotta give up. Carry on without me, friends.

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  96. By all means put cameras on the police. I would bet any amount of money that in most cases it would prove them right. That being said the white kid in Utah did FAR less than what brown did, was shot (on camera) and it was still deemed justifiable.

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  97. @Harry Baldwin
    I’d love to see a street poll taken tomorrow of a random selection of blacks in the US. Just one question for them – “Did Zimmerman shoot Trayvon Martin in the back?” 85% of blacks will answer yes.

    Hell, I'll bet if you asked, “Did Zimmerman shoot Michael Brown in the back?” 85% of blacks will answer yes.

    Howard Stern goes through the ghetto and asks them questions, it’s way more embarrassing than that.

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  98. The US military has dramastically changed how it portrays itself in TV commericials, e.g. instead of showing guys off fighting and doing military shit, they now have them doing relief work abroad and rescuing people from hurricanes at home. I wonder if they’re going to have commericials showing them babysitting the local mall from being looted by blacks and SJWs?

    Anyone want to place bets on how much federal aid the greater St. Louis area is going to get?

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  99. “Can’t they invent a stun gun–something stronger than taser but less lethal than real bullets–that will knock thugs out instead of killing them?”

    Real guns basically fit the bill. Plenty of people do get put down but not killed, when shot. The chances of dying when one is fired at you is much lower than most people think.

    In any case, seeing one pulled out and pointed at them will make most criminals crap themselves and either flee or give up. Those foolish enough to actually force a cop to shoot at them do risk some chance of dying, but they are making that choice and forcing the issue, and if I were a cop, I wouldn’t lose one wink of sleep over shooting a perp twice my size who punched me in the face and tried to take my gun.

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  100. Something is seriously amiss in a nation where third-world behaviors are deemed acceptable in a supposedly first-world country. And, the fiberals go out of their way to offer justification for those behaviors, displaying a shocking lack of superior morality that they demand of others.

    Our entire lifestyle has deteriorated to third-world status – music, fashion, art, politics, and the whole schmear. So, how do our betters decide to handle this abominable state of affairs? Why, what any set of corrupt institutions would do – open the door, invite in, and glorify even more such hoi polloi – the more unsuitable for first-world living, the better.

    This is sheer madness, a gross absurdity. Next up? Declare Ferguson a disaster area and send in food, money and government agents to set up an entrepreneurial zone at taxpayers expense. And the city council will rename the main drag in the town Michael Brown the Gentle Giant Boulevard.

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  101. Given how the MSM has been lecturing us about our still unsolved racial troubles, shouldn’t we expect a letup in the current level of nonwhite immigration? After all, if we still can’t get along with our own black population, what chance do we have of getting along with more and different types of diverse communities?

    Of course, there will be no connection between our lingering racial problems and importing more, diverse groups. Just like there will be no connection between our current employment levels and the importation of more workers. Just like there will be no connection between our current stretching of the social safety net and the importation of more safety net users.

    There is never any plan on shaping immigration to meet our needs. The only mission behind immigration is demographic replacement and democrat hegemony.

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  102. “The case resonated across the country — in New York City, Chicago and Oakland.”

    Well, it can stop resonating now, the midterms are over.

    “For the black community of Ferguson, the killing of Michael Brown was the last straw in a long train of abuses that they have suffered daily at the hands of the local police.”

    Well, come this Black Friday they can really vent their frustration by taking up business community’s one day special discount aka “Today we feel your pain so it’s all on us, just go ahead and take the stuff off the shelves.”

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    • Replies: @Luke Lea
    “The case resonated across the country — in New York City, Chicago and Oakland.”

    Three liberal bastions. I'm wondering how it resonated across America as a whole. The opinion polls should tell us soon.
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    “…Los Angeles has cranked up it parking ticket enforcement … I should loot the Barnes & Noble’s coffeetable art book section.”

    Steve, I’m looking forward to the interviews on TV your lawyer lines up. You need to be sure to practice your hangdog suffering victim look. I think it could go well for you, depending on the book titles you loot. You were only going to solve world hunger, but the bookstore wouldn’t let you “borrow” the book you needed… but it could’ve happened!

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  104. Steve, you have pointed out correctly that to crack or give in to charges of racism / sexism / whateverism is always a mistake. Better to stand your ground and die once than suffer a thousand ignominious deaths. White Liberals have their own hellish mirror opposite version; better to die a thousand humiliations than face the new age Torquemada’s red hot PC pokers.

    Ferguson is incredibly important because it is not going away and it will be the touch stone that everything racial is measured. People will either believe that Michael Brown assaulted Darren Wilson or they won’t and no matter what the facts are, and they all point to Brown’s guilt, denying it will be almost like a religious act of faith and to admit anything else is to be a non-believer. If conservatives are smart, they will never let go of this.

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  105. @Harry Baldwin
    I suspect the same shots with rubber bullets would have stopped Brown as well (though they aren’t always non-lethal).

    You probably shouldn't venture opinions when you obviously have no expertise on the subject.

    Are you suggesting a rubber bullet to the top of Brown’s head at the same range wouldn’t have stopped him?

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  106. @rod1963
    Rubber bullets are meant to be used against rioters not life or death situations. Also when is the officer supposed to load up on these rounds or do you expect the cops to go around with their service weapons always loaded with them?

    The criminal class would love the latter, because the cops are defenseless against them.

    And of course the moment some thug gets killed by the rubber bullets, you'll and others of your ilk will be demanding they take the guns away from cops altogether to make it safe for criminals.

    No, I noted in my original comment that they are sometimes fatal.

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  107. @anonymous-antimarxist

    I suspect the same shots with rubber bullets would have stopped Brown as well (though they aren’t always non-lethal)
     
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    What stupid nonsense!!!

    Michael Brown was hit six times before the fatal shoot to the head with 40 caliber bullets from a Sig Sauer P229. Only the seventh bullet to the top of the head stopped him cold.


    ’I carry Sig Sauer, a P229 .40 caliber.’
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2848666/In-unedited-officer-Darren-Wilson-s-account-happened-day-shot-dead-Michael-Brown.html

    9mm vs 40 cal
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJhAFSCeDB0
    Recoil
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FxSPAEbj48

    Officer Wilson was using the optimal handgun in terms of power and ammo capacity for a man his size to use. He still had to fire 12 shots out 13 rounds in his clip.

    Rubber bullets? Hell why not just use a super soaker???

    A rubber bullet of similar caliber & velocity to the top of Brown’s head would not have stopped him – is that your claim?

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  108. I propose a new acronym for use when discussing politics or sociology: “UBT,” which stands for the noun phrase “unarmed black teenager.” I have heard and read that exact phrase over and over for the last few days. Every radio, TV, print, and web journalist says “blah blah unarmed black teenager Michael Brown blah blah” (often without the qualifying name, of course) reflexively when discussing the case and speculating (as they love to do) about how cruel America is to UBT’s.

    We have SJW, NAM, and now: UBT! Michael Brown was a UBT. Trayvon Martin was a UBT. Soon the MSM will ennoble a new iconic UBT, and Jesse Jackson and Lawyer Crump will fly in to console his grieving parents or stepparents or honorary uncles or whatever. Obama’s son, if he had one, would be a UBT.

    Do not approach any UBT’s walking in the middle of the street or peering into the windows of houses in your neighborhood.

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    • Replies: @David In TN
    In news accounts of the Christian-Newsom murders, it was never written that Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom were unarmed.
    , @dumpstersquirrel
    Instead of UBT, how about UBY -- unarmed black youth? And it lends itself to easy pronunciation, either OO-BEE or YOU-BEE. I think I prefer OO-BEE.
  109. I know Charlie Rose is a NYC cocktail party liberal, but I always had some respect for him. No longer… his interview with Michael Brown’s parents and liar lawyer Crump was a complete embarrassment. Rose has the mindset of a clickbait juiceboxer. Has to be seen to be believed.

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    • Replies: @e
    The Charlie Rose of decades ago seemed sane--this one seems crazed.
  110. “The US military has dramastically changed how it portrays itself in TV commericials, e.g. instead of showing guys off fighting and doing military shit, they now have them doing relief work abroad and rescuing people from hurricanes at home.”

    No kidding. I used to work for a huge electric utility in the U.S. I used to joke that it you watched their TV ads, you’d think their business was planting trees and giving wheelchairs to crippled black kids.

    As for Ferguson, I’ve been an armed agent of the state (USMC). One nearly universal condition allowing the use of deadly force (i.e, up to and including killing someone) is to prevent imminent gross physical harm (note, not death) to yourself or another person.

    One thing that a lot of commenters, on both sides frankly, don’t seem to understand is that the shooting was the culmination of a single incident. It wasn’t like Brown tried to grab Wilson’s pistol, then Wilson saw him some time later and was charged by this unarmed guy who he may have been able to club or taser.

    Both were in the middle of a single event/encounter in which the use of deadly force was clearly authorized (going for Wilson’s pistol, even without a discharge of it is more than well enough), demonstrating murderous intent. Almost any resistant behavior after that except complete, abject submission, until he was subdued/under control, is in the context of apprehending an attempted murderer.

    All these media people yammering about context? Well, that is the f*cking context. The line authorizing use of deadly force had well been passed and the perp, now an attempted murderer in the eyes of the law or at least policy, remained out of control and was continuing to, at a minimum, resist apprehension by a single officer w/no backup and by all credible evidence appeared to be making a second go at inflicting gross physical harm upon Wilson.

    I know if I had been, say, on guard duty in Corps (stateside, not overseas in some conflict zone) and for some reason things went down like they did between Brown and Wilson and it wasn’t racially charged, I would have gotten a medal.

    I’m about the last person to be sympathetic to cops in the U.S., what with all the robocop stuff of the past two decades. And maybe Darren Wilson is a redneck d*ck, etc. But there isn’t anything in this incident that isn’t cut and dried and fully supportive of the outcome.

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  111. @rod1963
    One thing stands out about the apologists of Brown - both black and white. Almost to a one they seem to agree that there is nothing wrong with attacking a cop in his cruiser and trying to take his gun.

    Then there are the loons who think Wilson should have tasered him or shot his legs out.

    But are no goes out the gate for obvious reasons. For starters, Brown escalated the situation into a life or death decision for Wilson. Hoping a taser stops a 300lb enraged monster charging at you is short of suicidal. If it fails, you won't be able to get to your gun and you're toast, and if he grabs the officer while the taser is still active, it takes him out as well. Shooting out the legs, that only happens in Hollywood and only shows the total ignorance of those who advocate it - usually anti-gun nuts from the safety of their luxury condos or mother's basement.

    Brown’s apologists-black and white, also saw nothing wrong with stealing merchandise and assaulting a store clerk.

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  112. @Chuck
    Auster's law vindicated yet again: "the worse blacks and other designated minority groups behave, the more this non-white failure must be blamed on white racism"

    Yes, and there even bringing back the language of the 1968 Kerner Report.

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  113. HuffPo doubling down: “Experts not buying it” http://huff.to/1nOnj97

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    The sad part is that most of the experts cited in the NY Times piece HuffPo links to are saying the exact opposite.

    I can't wait to some of these liberal back publications/media fold. Having a liberal bent is fine, distorting facts to mislead and goad your readers is not cool & dangerous.
  114. @Veracitor
    I propose a new acronym for use when discussing politics or sociology: "UBT," which stands for the noun phrase "unarmed black teenager." I have heard and read that exact phrase over and over for the last few days. Every radio, TV, print, and web journalist says "blah blah unarmed black teenager Michael Brown blah blah" (often without the qualifying name, of course) reflexively when discussing the case and speculating (as they love to do) about how cruel America is to UBT's.

    We have SJW, NAM, and now: UBT! Michael Brown was a UBT. Trayvon Martin was a UBT. Soon the MSM will ennoble a new iconic UBT, and Jesse Jackson and Lawyer Crump will fly in to console his grieving parents or stepparents or honorary uncles or whatever. Obama's son, if he had one, would be a UBT.

    Do not approach any UBT's walking in the middle of the street or peering into the windows of houses in your neighborhood.

    In news accounts of the Christian-Newsom murders, it was never written that Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom were unarmed.

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  115. On Tuesday, in the middle of the afternoon, a 60-year old white man was murdered while hiking in the Huckleberry Preserve in the Oakland hills.

    http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Man-shot-dead-in-Huckleberry-park-in-Oakland-hills-5918503.php#photo-7197066

    Here is the San Francisco Chronicle‘s description of the “persons of interest” in the investigation:

    One was described as a black or of mixed race, in his late 20s or early 30s, thin, with dreadlocks, high cheekbones and a narrow face, wearing dark clothes. The second was an “out of shape” black man, 6 feet tall and 240 pounds, clean-shaven and with short hair, wearing dark clothes and a black backpack, police said. Investigators said he was described as “overly friendly.”

    The man who was killed, David Ruenzel, wrote some essays in the 90s for the Southern Poverty Law Center magazine Teaching Tolerance: http://www.tolerance.org/author/david-ruenzel

    These days, he was blogging for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. His last post appeared the day after he died: http://www.impatientoptimists.org/Authors/R/David-Ruenzel

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  116. @Veracitor
    I propose a new acronym for use when discussing politics or sociology: "UBT," which stands for the noun phrase "unarmed black teenager." I have heard and read that exact phrase over and over for the last few days. Every radio, TV, print, and web journalist says "blah blah unarmed black teenager Michael Brown blah blah" (often without the qualifying name, of course) reflexively when discussing the case and speculating (as they love to do) about how cruel America is to UBT's.

    We have SJW, NAM, and now: UBT! Michael Brown was a UBT. Trayvon Martin was a UBT. Soon the MSM will ennoble a new iconic UBT, and Jesse Jackson and Lawyer Crump will fly in to console his grieving parents or stepparents or honorary uncles or whatever. Obama's son, if he had one, would be a UBT.

    Do not approach any UBT's walking in the middle of the street or peering into the windows of houses in your neighborhood.

    Instead of UBT, how about UBY — unarmed black youth? And it lends itself to easy pronunciation, either OO-BEE or YOU-BEE. I think I prefer OO-BEE.

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  117. In the press conferences with Al Sharpton and Benjamin Crump by his side, I notice that Benjamin is so dark Black that he makes Al Sharpton look like a Mulato in comparison.

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  118. A Black reverend in Ferguson named Carlton Lee is claiming that “White supremacists” burned down his church during the riots.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/unlike-every-other-building-in-ferguson-michael-browns-church-was-set-on-fire-by-white-supremacists/

    Yeah because the Ku Klux Klan and Neo Nazi Skinheads would not stick out like a sore thumb at all and would go unnoticed in a crowd of thousands of angry rioting ghetto Blacks right ?

    If a bunch of Neo Nazis and Klan members entered Ferguson during the height of the Black riots, they would not leave there alive. They would be leaving in body bags because the thousands of Blacks there looting and burning shit up would all gang up and kill them on the spot.

    So 1 trillion Pinocchios for Carlton Lee.

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  119. @Sean
    Before all this happened Wilson gave an apparently misleading report of why he arrested someone filming him (said he had the camera in his face when the footage showed it was about 20 feet away). I would not be too sure that he is telling the absolute truth.

    There are no rules for a lot of situations, but Wilson has wrote some for the one he found himself in. I don't think any cop would dare do what he did now

    There are no rules for a lot of situations, but Wilson has wrote some for the one he found himself in.

    Yet the eyewitnesses, forensics, autopsies etc all back his version of events.

    I don’t think any cop would dare do what he did now

    Yes, elite success! In spite of him being cleared the core message is still sent to cops and white people generally – blacks, however badly behaved are to be given a greater benefit of the doubt than anyone else. Isn’t there already statistical evidence for cops doing that? Expect more of that.

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  120. @Chuck
    Are racial tensions good or bad for our rulers?

    Good. And we know that because of what they do rather than what they say.

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  121. @Lefty Lawyer
    Well, I hadn't looked it up before you asked, perhaps relying on the logical fallacy that the world works logically.

    However, a quick check with The Google:

    Rialto California - body cameras (not car cameras) introduced in February 2012, public complaints against officers plunged 88% compared with the previous 12 months. Officers' use of force fell by 60%. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/04/california-police-body-cameras-cuts-violence-complaints-rialto - Wall Street Journal Article, also on Rialto - http://online.wsj.com/articles/what-happens-when-police-officers-wear-body-cameras-1408320244.

    All I could find by way of studies online we all based on the Rialto experience.

    Your question was about car mounted cameras - which I assume catch the action less of the time than body mounted.

    I suppose one could question whether the body cameras would change actual behavior. But, the Rialto results suggest a change of behavior as the article says that not only were complaints down, but actual use of force was down by 60%. I think it is reasonable to assume that some miscreants would tone it down when they see the cop is wearing a camera pointed at them - and some cops might tone down their response as well.

    Also, I know lawyers who litigate police brutality cases (both sides) and videos would absolutely help weed out unfounded cases.

    In my own experience, lawyers will often videotape a deposition when they believe there is a difficult witness or opposing counsel as the camera seems to make people not act out as much.

    Iif the Rialto study was paid for by the camera company there might be some reliability issues, but I don't know that is the case. And, of course, a study of one city is not necessarily the be all end all.

    Body cameras certainly couldn't hurt.

    Big Brother loves you

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  122. “On Tuesday, in the middle of the afternoon, a 60-year old white man was murdered while hiking in the Huckleberry Preserve in the Oakland hills.

    http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Man-shot-dead-in-Huckleberry-park-in-Oakland-hills-5918503.php#photo-7197066

    Here is the San Francisco Chronicle‘s description of the “persons of interest” in the investigation:

    One was described as a black or of mixed race, in his late 20s or early 30s, thin, with dreadlocks, high cheekbones and a narrow face, wearing dark clothes. The second was an “out of shape” black man, 6 feet tall and 240 pounds, clean-shaven and with short hair, wearing dark clothes and a black backpack, police said. Investigators said he was described as “overly friendly.”

    The man who was killed, David Ruenzel, wrote some essays in the 90s for the Southern Poverty Law
    Center magazine Teaching Tolerance: http://www.tolerance.org/author/david-ruenzel

    These days, he was blogging for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. His last post appeared the day after he died: http://www.impatientoptimists.org/Authors/R/David-Ruenzel

    A nature reserve is one of the places you least expect to get murdered by Black thugs because visiting a nature reserve is such a White activity. Those 2 Black thugs must be drug dealers who are growing marijuana plants there and the White guy accidentally stumbled upon their operation while he was hiking and so they murdered him because they feared he would call the cops.

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    Jewish? liberal Democrat gets iced by some "Sons of Obama". But it was "random" not racial so down the media drain it goes.

    I would love to find any recent comments by him about Trayvon and Big Mike and the Republican victories.

    He and his fellow surviving Jewish liberals can say it was "White supremacy" and institutional racism that drove these people to do what they did.

    It's only racist if you happen to notice.
    , @Wyrd
    "...high cheekbones..."

    OMG! It was Elizabeth Warren!
    , @Anonymous
    That is absolutely shocking! I was walking around Sibley Park which abuts Huckleberry Park and is maybe only a few thousand feet away with my 3 year old son only two days earlier. It was filled with SWPL urban hikers types walking their little dogs.

    I live in Lamorinda and I am so glad I settled there rather than the Oakland or Berkeley Hills. There are some nice houses and a few decent public schools there but they can never fully escape the undertow. We have a fair number of people who move from there looking for the "schools" but in effect they are refugees. Their tax base is totally consumed with the urban problems in the flat lands and their public employees, especially cops, is a stone around their necks. With every passing year, my choice looks better and better.

  123. @Rudolphus James
    Speaking of your Takimag column, why is the drawing of a "looter" showing a white guy?

    Speaking of your Takimag column, why is the drawing of a “looter” showing a white guy?

    A google image search for ‘looter’, ‘robber’, ‘mugger’, ‘knife crime’ etc will show that by and large only white men commit violent crime on planet Earth.

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  124. @Dave Pinsen
    HuffPo doubling down: "Experts not buying it" http://huff.to/1nOnj97

    The sad part is that most of the experts cited in the NY Times piece HuffPo links to are saying the exact opposite.

    I can’t wait to some of these liberal back publications/media fold. Having a liberal bent is fine, distorting facts to mislead and goad your readers is not cool & dangerous.

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  125. @Jefferson
    "On Tuesday, in the middle of the afternoon, a 60-year old white man was murdered while hiking in the Huckleberry Preserve in the Oakland hills.

    http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Man-shot-dead-in-Huckleberry-park-in-Oakland-hills-5918503.php#photo-7197066

    Here is the San Francisco Chronicle‘s description of the “persons of interest” in the investigation:

    One was described as a black or of mixed race, in his late 20s or early 30s, thin, with dreadlocks, high cheekbones and a narrow face, wearing dark clothes. The second was an “out of shape” black man, 6 feet tall and 240 pounds, clean-shaven and with short hair, wearing dark clothes and a black backpack, police said. Investigators said he was described as “overly friendly.”

    The man who was killed, David Ruenzel, wrote some essays in the 90s for the Southern Poverty Law
    Center magazine Teaching Tolerance: http://www.tolerance.org/author/david-ruenzel

    These days, he was blogging for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. His last post appeared the day after he died: http://www.impatientoptimists.org/Authors/R/David-Ruenzel

    A nature reserve is one of the places you least expect to get murdered by Black thugs because visiting a nature reserve is such a White activity. Those 2 Black thugs must be drug dealers who are growing marijuana plants there and the White guy accidentally stumbled upon their operation while he was hiking and so they murdered him because they feared he would call the cops.

    Jewish? liberal Democrat gets iced by some “Sons of Obama”. But it was “random” not racial so down the media drain it goes.

    I would love to find any recent comments by him about Trayvon and Big Mike and the Republican victories.

    He and his fellow surviving Jewish liberals can say it was “White supremacy” and institutional racism that drove these people to do what they did.

    It’s only racist if you happen to notice.

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    “Can’t they invent…. that will knock thugs out instead of killing them?”
    Why? What’s wrong with dead thugs? If a thug revives they just go on to terrorize more people within their lifetime.

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  127. “…if I were a cop, I wouldn’t lose one wink of sleep over shooting a perp twice my size who punched me in the face and tried to take my gun.”

    - I suspect ‘ol Darren would also not have lost any sleep over it, except for the fact that the black community in his town has been running through the street with torches and screaming for his head, Revs Sharpton, Jackson, and Holder have all been putting pressure on the government apparatus to punish him damn the facts, and the Black Panthers put a bounty on his head.

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  128. @Meredith
    Look at the whole pattern, working together. This is an example of how right wing, anti govt budget cutting ideology combines with low wealth tax rates, and job off shoring that reduces the livelihoods of millions, and that all combines with our racial segregation and biased policing. Police who kill unarmed citizens are not punished. So it goes on. All this produces an underclass along racial lines and with biased policing and incarceration.

    The Times reported that the St Louis county area gets large chunks of revenue from traffic stops, and many people stopped can’t pay the fines or bail. A mostly white police force stops mostly black drivers, and makes for an atmosphere of surveillance and harassment that’s more apt for a Soviet dictatorship than the US. Jail terms often result, further dragging down future earning capacity and devastating families in all ways.

    This combines with increased attitudes of fear, hostility and aggression. Both sides draw farther apart. Community policing can’t thrive. Then Stand Your Ground laws and guns for all everywhere ideology combine to produce powder kegs. Example, the young man shot dead in Walmart while looking at guns and talking on his cell phone. The cops didn’t wait to judge the situation—they were called by a paranoid shopper, and reacted like paranoid automatons themselves.

    Until more politicians forcefully point out this pattern, it will continue to be rationalized and continue. Let's learn from South Africa.

    How about, “obey traffic laws and you will not be fined?”

    I am rather certain teenagers everywhere could make that exact same argument. Or, perhaps, they are more likely to speed?

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  129. @Jefferson
    "On Tuesday, in the middle of the afternoon, a 60-year old white man was murdered while hiking in the Huckleberry Preserve in the Oakland hills.

    http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Man-shot-dead-in-Huckleberry-park-in-Oakland-hills-5918503.php#photo-7197066

    Here is the San Francisco Chronicle‘s description of the “persons of interest” in the investigation:

    One was described as a black or of mixed race, in his late 20s or early 30s, thin, with dreadlocks, high cheekbones and a narrow face, wearing dark clothes. The second was an “out of shape” black man, 6 feet tall and 240 pounds, clean-shaven and with short hair, wearing dark clothes and a black backpack, police said. Investigators said he was described as “overly friendly.”

    The man who was killed, David Ruenzel, wrote some essays in the 90s for the Southern Poverty Law
    Center magazine Teaching Tolerance: http://www.tolerance.org/author/david-ruenzel

    These days, he was blogging for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. His last post appeared the day after he died: http://www.impatientoptimists.org/Authors/R/David-Ruenzel

    A nature reserve is one of the places you least expect to get murdered by Black thugs because visiting a nature reserve is such a White activity. Those 2 Black thugs must be drug dealers who are growing marijuana plants there and the White guy accidentally stumbled upon their operation while he was hiking and so they murdered him because they feared he would call the cops.

    “…high cheekbones…”

    OMG! It was Elizabeth Warren!

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  130. What would have happened if Brown had survived, would we even hear a peep from the media? Would he give now interviews about this incident? No, he would sit in jail, without question. This guy attempted to kill Wilson and the whole establishment labels him as an innocent victim of police racism.
    Even if Wilson would have murdered Wilson out of hate, it wouldn’t change the fact that Brown tried to kill him. Maybe I’m wrong and he didn’t try to kill him and just wanted to give Wilson a hug.

    There were many “witnesses” who told obvious lies, many blacks will defend even criminal blacks against whitey (OJ).
    By the way, Giuliani said that he would prosecute the lying witnesses

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/rudy-giuliani-i-would-prosecute-ferguson-witnesses-for-perjury/

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  131. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "The case resonated across the country — in New York City, Chicago and Oakland."

    Well, it can stop resonating now, the midterms are over.




    "For the black community of Ferguson, the killing of Michael Brown was the last straw in a long train of abuses that they have suffered daily at the hands of the local police."

    Well, come this Black Friday they can really vent their frustration by taking up business community's one day special discount aka "Today we feel your pain so it's all on us, just go ahead and take the stuff off the shelves."

    “The case resonated across the country — in New York City, Chicago and Oakland.”

    Three liberal bastions. I’m wondering how it resonated across America as a whole. The opinion polls should tell us soon.

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  132. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jefferson
    "On Tuesday, in the middle of the afternoon, a 60-year old white man was murdered while hiking in the Huckleberry Preserve in the Oakland hills.

    http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Man-shot-dead-in-Huckleberry-park-in-Oakland-hills-5918503.php#photo-7197066

    Here is the San Francisco Chronicle‘s description of the “persons of interest” in the investigation:

    One was described as a black or of mixed race, in his late 20s or early 30s, thin, with dreadlocks, high cheekbones and a narrow face, wearing dark clothes. The second was an “out of shape” black man, 6 feet tall and 240 pounds, clean-shaven and with short hair, wearing dark clothes and a black backpack, police said. Investigators said he was described as “overly friendly.”

    The man who was killed, David Ruenzel, wrote some essays in the 90s for the Southern Poverty Law
    Center magazine Teaching Tolerance: http://www.tolerance.org/author/david-ruenzel

    These days, he was blogging for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. His last post appeared the day after he died: http://www.impatientoptimists.org/Authors/R/David-Ruenzel

    A nature reserve is one of the places you least expect to get murdered by Black thugs because visiting a nature reserve is such a White activity. Those 2 Black thugs must be drug dealers who are growing marijuana plants there and the White guy accidentally stumbled upon their operation while he was hiking and so they murdered him because they feared he would call the cops.

    That is absolutely shocking! I was walking around Sibley Park which abuts Huckleberry Park and is maybe only a few thousand feet away with my 3 year old son only two days earlier. It was filled with SWPL urban hikers types walking their little dogs.

    I live in Lamorinda and I am so glad I settled there rather than the Oakland or Berkeley Hills. There are some nice houses and a few decent public schools there but they can never fully escape the undertow. We have a fair number of people who move from there looking for the “schools” but in effect they are refugees. Their tax base is totally consumed with the urban problems in the flat lands and their public employees, especially cops, is a stone around their necks. With every passing year, my choice looks better and better.

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  133. —The man who was killed, David Ruenzel wrote some essays in the 90s for the Southern Poverty Law
    Center magazine Teaching Tolerance: http://www.tolerance.org/author/david-ruenzel

    These days, he was blogging for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. His last post appeared the day after he died: http://www.impatientoptimists.org/Authors/R/David-Ruenzel—

    That kind of work can kill you.

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  134. I don’t think it is over. I don’t think all the relevant evidence has been released.

    The police shoot approximately one person in this country each day. Many – maybe most of these people are schizophrenics. The typical story is that a half naked guy is reported screaming crazy stuff while waving a sword over his head. The cops show up and order him to lie down. But he comes too close to them and they shoot him dead.

    Michael Brown acted crazy. He attacked and armed policeman while he was unarmed. My theory – he was indeed crazy. Since the sixties and the Lanterman-Petris-Short law and its descendants the crazy people are no longer locked up. They are in the streets where the cops have to periodically shoot them.

    We haven’t seen Brown’s juvenile record yet. I think when we finally do see it, we will see some mental health issues.

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    Thanks. Suicide by cop would sound like something that could be reduced with technology. Malaysian villages traditionally kept equipment for subduing men running amok. Maybe cop cars could have in the trunk a big taser rifle or animal control dart gun or some other longer range not-as-lethal way of subduing somebody who appears to be intent on suicide by cop but isn't actively charging at anybody.
    , @IBC

    Michael Brown acted crazy.

    We haven’t seen Brown’s juvenile record yet. I think when we finally do see it, we will see some mental health issues.
     
    Yeah, that's a good point. But is there really any chance Brown's juvenile record will ever become public information? From the investigation, I was expecting to hear that he was on some sort of drug that made him go berserk. But so far I haven't heard of anything to support this besides evidence of marijuana usage which is supposed to have the opposite effect.

    I have read that the high THC levels in some modern strains of cannabis cause certain people to have hallucinations and hear voices (Maureen Dowd?) and that there may be links between smoking pot and schizophrenia, though so far there seems to only be evidence for an increased likelihood of usage among those already prone to developing schizophrenia rather than cannabis use triggering it. For more see:

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/278736.php

    Given the very young age of Mike Brown's parents, that might lower the chance that he had schizophrenia too.
  135. @Jus' Sayin'...
    Blood trails and blood spatter evidence, DNA typed evidence, fiber evidence, hair evidence, ballistics evidence, three!!!! autopsies, and many eyewitness accounts all support the cop's testimony and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the accomplice of the dead man was a fountain of self-serving prevarication.. But you're not sure the cop is telling the truth!

    The only reasonable explanation for that is that you're a moron.

    And it is and always will be SOP for a cop to prevent any assailant from taking away his weapon and to use any method up to and including deadly force to prevent that from happening. And for all you morons out there who have no idea what combat shooting involves, you ALWAYS shoot for the center of the body mass. This is what all firearms carrying professionals are taught, This is real life. It is not the Lone Ranger or some other Hollywood fantasy.

    ‘Combat shooting’ begs the question because whether a response appropriate to an actual combat situation is to be used can’t be determined when there is no gun out. Russian SPECIAL FORCES screamed at advancing Ukrainians that they would shoot them in the legs. then the Russians brought up unarmed civilians to confront the unarmed Ukrainians.

    It is rarely the case that you will have impunity to open fire on people without guns no matter how provocatively they are behaving. People have got life for shooting people who initially threatened and came at them with a weapon , but then stopped. Shooting to kill while emptying your magazine into someone who hasn’t shown they have a gun or knife is always perilously close to overreacting, and anyone who thinks there are hard and fast rules to the contrary is a fool.

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  136. “In this context, the police are justifiably seen as an alien, occupying force that is synonymous with state-sponsored abuse.

    The case resonated across the country — in New York City, Chicago and Oakland.”

    And what didn’t resonate in New York City, or at least not with Al Sharpton and New York Times? The case of Eric Garner – a black man who was choked to death by a white NYC cop, only a couple of weeks after the Ferguson incident, and in much more iffy circumstances than those surrounding Michael Brown.

    But the NYPD are the private army of New York’s elite – who in large measure are the elite that own and run the country – so the Times doesn’t see fit to question their behavior.

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  137. @ Dave Pinsen says—Are you suggesting a rubber bullet to the top of Brown’s head at the same range wouldn’t have stopped him?

    I don’t want to be insulting, but this is getting ridiculous. Multiple hits from actual bullets did not stop Michael Brown, in fact appeared to make him angrier according to Wilson, but you think less-lethal projectiles would have done the job?

    What do you expect from a rubber bullet to the head? Either it would have penetrated and killed Brown at close range–a definite possibility–or bounced off and made him even more angry. So what’s the point?

    To reiterate what someone else told you, do you expect police officers to carry weapons loaded with rubber bullets? It’s not as if Wilson would have had the opportunity to switch magazines and chamber a different round. Even if he had a shotgun loaded with rubber bullets, those are usually locked in a rack in the car and he wouldn’t have had time to access it.

    If you’re really this interested in rubber bullets, why don’t you Google the subject and bring yourself up to speed on what they can and can’t do?

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  138. “Jefferson says

    A nature reserve is one of the places you least expect to get murdered by Black thugs because visiting a nature reserve is such a White activity. Those 2 Black thugs must be drug dealers who are growing marijuana plants there and the White guy accidentally stumbled upon their operation while he was hiking and so they murdered him because they feared he would call the cops.”

    Isn’t actually growing marijuana primarily a white thing (or a latino thing). Those black thugs were probably just lying in wait to rob and murder a white person.

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  139. “dna turtles says:

    Now you know how Palestinians feel.”

    Perhaps. But I don’t CARE how they feel.”

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  140. ““The case resonated across the country — in New York City, Chicago and Oakland.”

    Three liberal bastions. I’m wondering how it resonated across America as a whole. The opinion polls should tell us soon.”

    Not just liberal bastions, but they also have significantly higher than the national average percentage of Blacks.

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  141. News accounts have str*ongly suggested…that the police …systematically target poor and minority citizens for street and traffic stops — partly to generate fines —

    Ahhhhh… the old “hunting where the ducks aren’t” trick….

    I guess it makes sense. Pull over and ticket blacks, jail them when they don’t pay, raise taxes on YT McTaxpayer to pay for their room and board.

    First they wanted him to step down, thinking he was going to deliberately half-ass his job. Then, when he fulfilled their predictions by deliberately half-assing his job, they complained that he half-assed his job! Make up your minds, libtards!

    Right. The libtards wanted a witch hunt, a cross-burning, a Spanish Inquisition, a progrom. They needed the real prosecutor to step out of the way for the libtards’ Inquisitor/commissar/witchhunter/grand dragon, but he refused. So, libtards are pissed, natch.

    The NY Times: now officially in favor of witch hunts, show trials, and lynch mobs. Against whitey only, of course. …

    Dang, I forgot show trials and lynch mobs!

    How ironic that Jews, who bitch about pogroms against them in the past, feel zero sympathy for dotters and others who suffered pogrom or Ponegroms by blacks.

    I watched X-Men First Class again the other day. I’d missed Fassbender’s “Never Again (TM)” the first time around. I immediately said, “until we get hold of the Palestinians.”

    (I think that it was particularly stupid of the parents of the dead 12-yo boy to allow him to carry a replica .45 Auto around in public. I think a charge of reckless endangerment against them should be considered.)

    Given the media’s obsession with making hay out of every tragedy, and the concomitant need for everyone to find someone to blame, that was my first thought as well. I suppose the proper response is to simply be saddened by a terrible accident, but media has destroyed that possibility.

    Can’t they invent a stun gun–something stronger than taser but less lethal than real bullets–that will knock thugs out instead of killing them?

    The problem with “non-lethal” weaponry is that the distinction between “lethal” and “non-lethal” is largely an abstraction, a sort of anthropomorphism. Generally speaking, the stuff that will knock you out can also kill you. This is why even anesthesia can be a tricky business, and that’s under controlled conditions, supervised by highly-trained experts, using expensive, state-of-the-art equipment.

    Moreover, since the narrative is that the cops and whitey are all out to get blacks whenever they can, it astounds me that they don’t adopt squeaky-clean behavior.

    The fact that blacks won’t even pull their pants up, put on belts, and tuck in their shirts to differentiate themselves from the criminal class, and thus spare themselves the difficulties that arise from the cops being unable to distinguish the two, sort of belies blacks’ delusions of persecution.

    So, what we had essentially was a trial with only one side questioning the witnesses.

    No. What we had was the media and the mau-maus demanding a witch hunt/show trial/Spanish Inquisition/lynching, and the state apparatus doing less than their level best to appease them. The state simply left the matter to the jurors, and apparently the media/mau-mau pressure wasn’t enough to get the result they wanted.

    There is widespread agreement from the ACLU to many police chiefs that Go Pro style cameras should be worn by police at all time and on for all encounters with citizens. Can’t be done soon enough – will hopefully put everyone on good behavior.

    That would be a good start. But only a start. I want everyone employed by the gov’t monitored and recorded the entire time he’s on the clock, on duty, or otherwise working in an official capacity. I want every gov’t facility (including schools, as pointed out by JD) monitored and recorded 24/7. The only exceptions should be when they go to the bathroom.

    This will take a hell of a lot of the joy out of gov’t work, for the types (sociopaths, etc.) who are causing problems.

    I think it is reasonable to assume that some miscreants would tone it down when they see the cop is wearing a camera pointed at them – and some cops might tone down their response as well.

    In fairness, my first impression is that most of the toning down probably came from the cops. They seem far more likely to have their behavior impacted by something like body cameras.

    You can’t stop lying, can you?

    No, he can’t stop lying. He’s a leftist. But, I repeat myself.

    While it is unusual that the grand jury failed to indict, it is also unusual that it was presented in the first place. Without the media and political attention, I don’t think it would have been. Bunk from the start.

    This.

    The moderator draws a non-zero component of his commenters from the ranks of the asylum population.

    The commenter makes a statement that is true everywhere as if it is not.

    The New York Times revealed the home address of where Officer Darren Wilson lives. They might as well put a million dollar bounty on his head.

    You know, I’m surprised journalists aren’t more concerned about people publishing their home addresses.

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    You know, I’m surprised journalists aren’t more concerned about people publishing their home addresses.
     
    It's already a Disqus meme:

    https://disqus.com/home/discussion/breitbartproduction/video_white_ferguson_protestor_demands_black_lapd_officer_feel_shame/#comment-1714862284
  142. @rod1963
    One thing stands out about the apologists of Brown - both black and white. Almost to a one they seem to agree that there is nothing wrong with attacking a cop in his cruiser and trying to take his gun.

    Then there are the loons who think Wilson should have tasered him or shot his legs out.

    But are no goes out the gate for obvious reasons. For starters, Brown escalated the situation into a life or death decision for Wilson. Hoping a taser stops a 300lb enraged monster charging at you is short of suicidal. If it fails, you won't be able to get to your gun and you're toast, and if he grabs the officer while the taser is still active, it takes him out as well. Shooting out the legs, that only happens in Hollywood and only shows the total ignorance of those who advocate it - usually anti-gun nuts from the safety of their luxury condos or mother's basement.

    One thing stands out about the apologists of Brown – both black and white. Almost to a one they seem to agree that there is nothing wrong with attacking a cop in his cruiser and trying to take his gun.

    That part has been particularly disturbing to me, as I have loved ones in law enforcement. I was also very disturbed by some of the flimsy excuses people gave for Trayvon Martin beating the crap out of Zimmerman.

    Although nobody ever comes right out and says it in exactly these words, I’ve repeatedly encountered defenders of Mike Brown and Trayvon Martin who strongly imply that blacks have some kind of qualified right to beat up non-blacks with little pretext and without fear of serious reprisal. This certainly seems to an article of faith among some of the more hostile “ghetto” blacks.

    I wish somebody would have the guts to just lay their cards on the table and make this argument explicitly, so we could all quit pretending. Haven’t other rival ethnic factions throughout history been able to come to a reasonable understanding by bluntly discussing the issues this way? Heck, I bet many folks would be willing to tolerate a higher threshold of abuse from certain communities — “they’re just letting off steam; let it slide” — as long as everybody could agree on a set of clear and consistent ground rules: “Do X all you want up to point Y, but push it even a micrometer further, and we will come down on you like a ton of bricks.”

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  143. @Pat Boyle
    I don't think it is over. I don't think all the relevant evidence has been released.

    The police shoot approximately one person in this country each day. Many - maybe most of these people are schizophrenics. The typical story is that a half naked guy is reported screaming crazy stuff while waving a sword over his head. The cops show up and order him to lie down. But he comes too close to them and they shoot him dead.

    Michael Brown acted crazy. He attacked and armed policeman while he was unarmed. My theory - he was indeed crazy. Since the sixties and the Lanterman-Petris-Short law and its descendants the crazy people are no longer locked up. They are in the streets where the cops have to periodically shoot them.

    We haven't seen Brown's juvenile record yet. I think when we finally do see it, we will see some mental health issues.

    Thanks. Suicide by cop would sound like something that could be reduced with technology. Malaysian villages traditionally kept equipment for subduing men running amok. Maybe cop cars could have in the trunk a big taser rifle or animal control dart gun or some other longer range not-as-lethal way of subduing somebody who appears to be intent on suicide by cop but isn’t actively charging at anybody.

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  144. @Luke Lea
    You have to admit the Ferguson decision took the President's executive order on immigration out of the news cycle. Hmmm. What did he know and when did he know it?

    “You have to admit the Ferguson decision took the President’s executive order on immigration out of the news cycle. Hmmm.”

    It did, didn’t it?

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  145. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    The case resonated across the country — in New York City, Chicago and Oakland.

    Why do they mention Oakland as if it is somewhere important?

    It’s not. It is close to being the asshole of the world.

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    Your comment suggests you are probably only familiar with the Flatlands of Oakland . You might not know that Oakland has prime real estate, beautiful vistas overlooking the Bay, multimillion dollar homes in the Oakland Hills, great weather, not the wet cold of SF, not hot as are the burbs east of the Caldecott Tunnel.

    Elites would love nothing more than to force the criminal black underclass east.
    They've had successes as some have already moved, unfortunately, out toward my neck of the woods.
  146. Steve Sailer says “the most important thing is to keep talking.” ———————– Didn’t you once use a particular word to describe this concept? Bafflegagging or some such thing? I was searching my memory banks for it the other day, a word to describe conquest through verbosity, associated I think in an earlier article with Talmudic studies, yet I couldn’t find it. Care to offer an assist?

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  147. “Why do they mention Oakland as if it is somewhere important?

    It’s not. It is close to being the asshole of the world.”

    Oakland is like Newark, New Jersey and San Francisco is like New York City. When tourists from other states and from around the world are visiting The Bay Area they don’t go sightseeing in Oakland. When tourists are in the Tri-State area, they do not go sightseeing in Newark.

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    When tourists are in the Tri-State area, they do not go sightseeing in Newark.
     
    Newark has a handsome downtown (from the second floor up) which could be tidied up into a real gem if anyone cared and bothered to. There's Ferry St with a mile of Portuguese restaurants, and a similar cluster of white South Americans near the train station. (Remember when diversity-- within reasonable limits-- used to be fun?)

    There's a cute little subway/streetcar line running north from the city center, though they traded the classic PCC cars for Kinki light-rail ones for the new century. They'll carry you to Branch Brook Park where, in the spring, you can see more cherry blossoms than in Washington, DC.

    So there's a lot to reward the savvy tourist in Newark. I imagine it's the same in Oakland. Gertrude Stein may have snubbed it, but Lillian Gilbreth missed the place.

    Nothing a little (re)gentrification couldn't fix.

  148. Alfonse says:
    November 27, 2014 at 7:24 am GMT

    I wonder; if we go into the Chronicle’s archives, will we see a pattern of similar forthrightness in describing suspects, including race, in a marked contrast to the usual media practices that obtain throughout the country? Or, will we see that this description is as different from the Chronicle’s policy as it is from the rest of the American media’s? Are (liberal) journalists and SPLC types the only Americans important enough to receive the posthumous benefits of a modicum of journalistic integrity?

    He and his fellow surviving Jewish liberals can say it was “White supremacy” and institutional racism that drove these people to do what they did.

    And yet, the Chronicle gave a description that included the fact that they were black, which gets a two eyebrows up from savvy readers. The message being, “no, fellow journalists & prominent liberals, we won’t throw you to the diversity wolves while your body’s still warm”?

    - I suspect ‘ol Darren would also not have lost any sleep over it, except for the fact that the black community in his town has been running through the street with torches and screaming for his head, Revs Sharpton, Jackson, and Holder have all been putting pressure on the government apparatus to punish him damn the facts, and the Black Panthers put a bounty on his head.

    If he’s not already quite hardened, reactionary, racist, whatever, then I wouldn’t be surprised if he had a bit to work through after the shooting. Even if he were, there’s no guarantee. This stuff tends to be involuntary. And we all get the psychotic liberal indoctrination from cradle to grave. It takes a bit of work to get one’s head un-fucked from that.

    By the way, Giuliani said that he would prosecute the lying witnesses

    As is just. If they’d crack down hard on that kind of crime, it might have a mitigating effect on the godawful black social mores regarding law enforcement. It’s easier to “excuse” doing the right thing when it’s your ass if you don’t.

    Three liberal bastions. I’m wondering how it resonated across America as a whole. The opinion polls should tell us soon.

    Today NPR was yakking about public opinion of Ferguson in Russia.

    Although nobody ever comes right out and says it in exactly these words, I’ve repeatedly encountered defenders of Mike Brown and Trayvon Martin who strongly imply that blacks have some kind of qualified right to beat up non-blacks with little pretext and without fear of serious reprisal. This certainly seems to an article of faith among some of the more hostile “ghetto” blacks.

    Liberals imply non-black supremacy with this: blacks are inferiors, sub-humans for whom civilized standards are far too demanding.

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  149. @Svigor

    News accounts have str*ongly suggested…that the police …systematically target poor and minority citizens for street and traffic stops — partly to generate fines —

    Ahhhhh… the old “hunting where the ducks aren’t” trick….
     

    I guess it makes sense. Pull over and ticket blacks, jail them when they don't pay, raise taxes on YT McTaxpayer to pay for their room and board.

    First they wanted him to step down, thinking he was going to deliberately half-ass his job. Then, when he fulfilled their predictions by deliberately half-assing his job, they complained that he half-assed his job! Make up your minds, libtards!
     
    Right. The libtards wanted a witch hunt, a cross-burning, a Spanish Inquisition, a progrom. They needed the real prosecutor to step out of the way for the libtards' Inquisitor/commissar/witchhunter/grand dragon, but he refused. So, libtards are pissed, natch.

    The NY Times: now officially in favor of witch hunts, show trials, and lynch mobs. Against whitey only, of course. …
     
    Dang, I forgot show trials and lynch mobs!

    How ironic that Jews, who bitch about pogroms against them in the past, feel zero sympathy for dotters and others who suffered pogrom or Ponegroms by blacks.
     
    I watched X-Men First Class again the other day. I'd missed Fassbender's "Never Again (TM)" the first time around. I immediately said, "until we get hold of the Palestinians."

    (I think that it was particularly stupid of the parents of the dead 12-yo boy to allow him to carry a replica .45 Auto around in public. I think a charge of reckless endangerment against them should be considered.)
     
    Given the media's obsession with making hay out of every tragedy, and the concomitant need for everyone to find someone to blame, that was my first thought as well. I suppose the proper response is to simply be saddened by a terrible accident, but media has destroyed that possibility.

    Can’t they invent a stun gun–something stronger than taser but less lethal than real bullets–that will knock thugs out instead of killing them?
     
    The problem with "non-lethal" weaponry is that the distinction between "lethal" and "non-lethal" is largely an abstraction, a sort of anthropomorphism. Generally speaking, the stuff that will knock you out can also kill you. This is why even anesthesia can be a tricky business, and that's under controlled conditions, supervised by highly-trained experts, using expensive, state-of-the-art equipment.

    Moreover, since the narrative is that the cops and whitey are all out to get blacks whenever they can, it astounds me that they don’t adopt squeaky-clean behavior.
     
    The fact that blacks won't even pull their pants up, put on belts, and tuck in their shirts to differentiate themselves from the criminal class, and thus spare themselves the difficulties that arise from the cops being unable to distinguish the two, sort of belies blacks' delusions of persecution.

    So, what we had essentially was a trial with only one side questioning the witnesses.
     
    No. What we had was the media and the mau-maus demanding a witch hunt/show trial/Spanish Inquisition/lynching, and the state apparatus doing less than their level best to appease them. The state simply left the matter to the jurors, and apparently the media/mau-mau pressure wasn't enough to get the result they wanted.

    There is widespread agreement from the ACLU to many police chiefs that Go Pro style cameras should be worn by police at all time and on for all encounters with citizens. Can’t be done soon enough – will hopefully put everyone on good behavior.
     
    That would be a good start. But only a start. I want everyone employed by the gov't monitored and recorded the entire time he's on the clock, on duty, or otherwise working in an official capacity. I want every gov't facility (including schools, as pointed out by JD) monitored and recorded 24/7. The only exceptions should be when they go to the bathroom.

    This will take a hell of a lot of the joy out of gov't work, for the types (sociopaths, etc.) who are causing problems.


    I think it is reasonable to assume that some miscreants would tone it down when they see the cop is wearing a camera pointed at them – and some cops might tone down their response as well.
     
    In fairness, my first impression is that most of the toning down probably came from the cops. They seem far more likely to have their behavior impacted by something like body cameras.

    You can’t stop lying, can you?
     
    No, he can't stop lying. He's a leftist. But, I repeat myself.

    While it is unusual that the grand jury failed to indict, it is also unusual that it was presented in the first place. Without the media and political attention, I don’t think it would have been. Bunk from the start.
     
    This.

    The moderator draws a non-zero component of his commenters from the ranks of the asylum population.
     
    The commenter makes a statement that is true everywhere as if it is not.

    The New York Times revealed the home address of where Officer Darren Wilson lives. They might as well put a million dollar bounty on his head.
     
    You know, I'm surprised journalists aren't more concerned about people publishing their home addresses.

    You know, I’m surprised journalists aren’t more concerned about people publishing their home addresses.

    It’s already a Disqus meme:

    https://disqus.com/home/discussion/breitbartproduction/video_white_ferguson_protestor_demands_black_lapd_officer_feel_shame/#comment-1714862284

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  150. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Half Canadian
    The video with Wilson does look bad, but it doesn't change my opinion that he erroneously shot Michael Brown.
    When news accounts of this first surfaced, the claim was that Brown was shot in the back. The autopsy disproved that claim. Then the claim that Brown had his hands up, yelling "Don't shoot!". Then the video surfaced of someone saying that he charged the cop, along with the grand jury testimony stating this as well.
    Yes, there was the claim that Wilson had his orbital socket broken. There's no doubt that it was not broken. Yes, there were a lot of lies floating around, and the more lies thrown about, the less credible the statements are. It was the same thing with Trayvon Martin. The initial claim was that some guy hunted down a young boy. I honestly thought that this was a crime until I read the news report that was made the day after the killing. There was an eyewitness to Martin on top of Zimmerman, the police did question him, and so on. I didn't out-right reject Zimmerman's guilt until I saw pictures of him taken after police arrived. It was clear that he'd been attacked.
    Interestingly, Benjamin Crump was an attorney for both of these families (Martin & Brown). And I've concluded that he is a liar, through and through.

    Crump…saw him on TV…I’d say if that guy’s your lawyer, time to get your affairs in order.

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  151. @Jefferson
    "Why do they mention Oakland as if it is somewhere important?

    It’s not. It is close to being the asshole of the world."

    Oakland is like Newark, New Jersey and San Francisco is like New York City. When tourists from other states and from around the world are visiting The Bay Area they don't go sightseeing in Oakland. When tourists are in the Tri-State area, they do not go sightseeing in Newark.

    When tourists are in the Tri-State area, they do not go sightseeing in Newark.

    Newark has a handsome downtown (from the second floor up) which could be tidied up into a real gem if anyone cared and bothered to. There’s Ferry St with a mile of Portuguese restaurants, and a similar cluster of white South Americans near the train station. (Remember when diversity– within reasonable limits– used to be fun?)

    There’s a cute little subway/streetcar line running north from the city center, though they traded the classic PCC cars for Kinki light-rail ones for the new century. They’ll carry you to Branch Brook Park where, in the spring, you can see more cherry blossoms than in Washington, DC.

    So there’s a lot to reward the savvy tourist in Newark. I imagine it’s the same in Oakland. Gertrude Stein may have snubbed it, but Lillian Gilbreth missed the place.

    Nothing a little (re)gentrification couldn’t fix.

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  152. @Enderby
    I know Charlie Rose is a NYC cocktail party liberal, but I always had some respect for him. No longer... his interview with Michael Brown's parents and liar lawyer Crump was a complete embarrassment. Rose has the mindset of a clickbait juiceboxer. Has to be seen to be believed.

    The Charlie Rose of decades ago seemed sane–this one seems crazed.

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  153. Some rather odd comments about rubber bullets in this thread.

    “Rubber bullets are meant to be used against rioters not life or death situations. Also when is the officer supposed to load up on these rounds or do you expect the cops to go around with their service weapons always loaded with them?Rubber bullets are meant to be used against rioters not life or death situations. Also when is the officer supposed to load up on these rounds or do you expect the cops to go around with their service weapons always loaded with them?”

    Police officers would not “load up” their service pistols with rubber bullets because they don’t have rubber bullets for their service pistols. Yes there are a few oddball cartridges out there you could probably find that fire “rubber” bullets in standard size cartridges (ie, 9x19mm Parabellum, .40 cal S&W, etc) but these “rubber” bullets are far too small and light to be useful in stopping anyone and the bullet being so light it might not even cycle the slide on an automatic pistol, which is not good. It’s not a practical cartridge and no police department would issue it to their officers.

    When people refer to rubber bullets, they usually mean very big projectiles fired from specialized riot guns, not ordinary pistols; “rubber” bullets are not usually fired from ordinary pistols. Pistols are too small. Sure, you could make a rubber bullet and load it into a service pistol caliber cartridge (9mm, 40 cal, whatever), but the rubber bullet would be too small and too light to have any real effect on the target (unless you hit him in the eye; a woman was killed by being hit in the eye by a pepper gun pellet in Boston a few years ago). You could fire rubber pellets out of a shotgun cartridge (these do exist), but the pellets would only sting, they don’t actually stop anyone. It’s for crowd control at best, not for stopping assailants. If you really want to stop someone with a rubber bullet, you are talking about devices (riot guns) which fire big, grenade sized rubber bullets: 37mm or 40mm caliber or so. And even these aren’t meant for one-on-one combat between a policeman and a perp; they are as the name implies, riot guns meant for riot control.

    THIS is what rubber bullets (and the riot guns they are fired out of) looks like:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_bullet

    https://www.google.com/search?q=rubber+bullets&tbm=isch&tbo=u

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_gun

    https://www.google.com/search?q=riot+gun&source=lnms&tbm=isch

    And yes, sometimes people do die when hit by these big “rubber bullets”. But they are fired out of large riot guns, not small pistols.

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  154. @The most deplorable one

    The case resonated across the country — in New York City, Chicago and Oakland.
     
    Why do they mention Oakland as if it is somewhere important?

    It's not. It is close to being the asshole of the world.

    Your comment suggests you are probably only familiar with the Flatlands of Oakland . You might not know that Oakland has prime real estate, beautiful vistas overlooking the Bay, multimillion dollar homes in the Oakland Hills, great weather, not the wet cold of SF, not hot as are the burbs east of the Caldecott Tunnel.

    Elites would love nothing more than to force the criminal black underclass east.
    They’ve had successes as some have already moved, unfortunately, out toward my neck of the woods.

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    . You might not know that Oakland has prime real estate…
     
    Just what I suspected! See my defense of Newark three comments up from yours.
  155. “You have to admit the Ferguson decision took the President’s executive order on immigration out of the news cycle. Hmmm.”

    Yes, but everything that the media doesn’t care to talk about falls out of the news cycle pretty quickly. Nothing on the news any more about this summer’s flood of Central American minors.

    Today NPR was yakking about public opinion of Ferguson in Russia.

    I imagine that everywhere outside of the culturally marxist West, this case cause much head-scratching. “Thug attacks policeman, policeman shoots thug. . . and this is a problem?” (Of course, that response won’t get anyone on NPR.)

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  156. @e
    Your comment suggests you are probably only familiar with the Flatlands of Oakland . You might not know that Oakland has prime real estate, beautiful vistas overlooking the Bay, multimillion dollar homes in the Oakland Hills, great weather, not the wet cold of SF, not hot as are the burbs east of the Caldecott Tunnel.

    Elites would love nothing more than to force the criminal black underclass east.
    They've had successes as some have already moved, unfortunately, out toward my neck of the woods.

    . You might not know that Oakland has prime real estate…

    Just what I suspected! See my defense of Newark three comments up from yours.

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  157. @Pat Boyle
    I don't think it is over. I don't think all the relevant evidence has been released.

    The police shoot approximately one person in this country each day. Many - maybe most of these people are schizophrenics. The typical story is that a half naked guy is reported screaming crazy stuff while waving a sword over his head. The cops show up and order him to lie down. But he comes too close to them and they shoot him dead.

    Michael Brown acted crazy. He attacked and armed policeman while he was unarmed. My theory - he was indeed crazy. Since the sixties and the Lanterman-Petris-Short law and its descendants the crazy people are no longer locked up. They are in the streets where the cops have to periodically shoot them.

    We haven't seen Brown's juvenile record yet. I think when we finally do see it, we will see some mental health issues.

    Michael Brown acted crazy.

    We haven’t seen Brown’s juvenile record yet. I think when we finally do see it, we will see some mental health issues.

    Yeah, that’s a good point. But is there really any chance Brown’s juvenile record will ever become public information? From the investigation, I was expecting to hear that he was on some sort of drug that made him go berserk. But so far I haven’t heard of anything to support this besides evidence of marijuana usage which is supposed to have the opposite effect.

    I have read that the high THC levels in some modern strains of cannabis cause certain people to have hallucinations and hear voices (Maureen Dowd?) and that there may be links between smoking pot and schizophrenia, though so far there seems to only be evidence for an increased likelihood of usage among those already prone to developing schizophrenia rather than cannabis use triggering it. For more see:

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/278736.php

    Given the very young age of Mike Brown’s parents, that might lower the chance that he had schizophrenia too.

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  158. I left this comment over at a Fred Reed article but I think it belongs here instead. Apologies for the double comment.

    What I find amazing in this whole Ferguson business, which I am sick to death of, is the weird response to it by the so-called Libertarians. A look at the libertarian sites like Lew Rockwell, et al shows to me that these folks have become almost unglued over this – even more so than the major media. They often point out some of the outrageous behavior of rather stupid cops who overreact and tend to do stupid even murderous things, but in this case the evidence is so clear and plain that I have no explanation for their refusal to see it. Yet they continue to fan the flames simply, I suppose, by their refusal to face the facts.

    Also interesting, at least to me, is that many otherwise trustworthy European sites (think RT, PressTV, etc.) are also on the side of the looters. Sure, Russia doesn’t mind pointing out the internal problems of the USA (understandably so, considering how they are being bullied and provoked by Washington) but to keep flogging this dead horse is astounding. And considering that they are well aware of how the US has been behind various color revolutions in their sphere of influence it is absolutely astounding that they fail to see the same forces at work fanning the flames of Ferguson.

    True, these Europeans (or well-heeled libertarians who live in nice neighborhoods) don’t live among low-class blacks and don’t experience the daily shootings, muggings, boomboxing, littering and arrogance that we peons experience. They have no idea of what it’s like to open your newspaper and see that every single day – that’s EVERY single day – reports of black crime and murder fill the pages. But even given that you would think some journalistic standard would apply and that they might be curious about the other side of the story.

    I don’t get it.

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  159. What I find amazing in this whole Ferguson business, which I am sick to death of, is the weird response to it by the so-called Libertarians. A look at the libertarian sites like Lew Rockwell, et al shows to me that these folks have become almost unglued over this – even more so than the major media. They often point out some of the outrageous behavior of rather stupid cops who overreact and tend to do stupid even murderous things, but in this case the evidence is so clear and plain that I have no explanation for their refusal to see it. Yet they continue to fan the flames simply, I suppose, by their refusal to face the facts.

    Yes, the Ferguson Flap has brought the “libertarian” anti-police nuts out of the woodwork, in force. Lots of whites are siding with Brown not out of any real sympathy, but simply because they’re anti-cop. They keep blathering on about the militarization of the police. Like I care if the cops buy surplus APCs and guns from the feds’ MENA campaigns. If they want to rail against the police state, the “national oppression security appartus” is a good target.

    And if they want someone to blame for the rise of the militarized local police forces, they shouldn’t forget Dieversity. Dieversity gives the regime the excuse it needs. For that matter, it’s Dieversity behind the rise of the “national security apparatus,” too. 9/11 wasn’t even enough for our psychotic rulers to end immigration from countries full of terrorists. And the libertardians agree, 100%.

    A pox on the libertardians, too.

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  160. @Lex
    Video on white versus black racism: https://youtube.com/watch?v=fb6RhyJVKgY

    White kid with flat-brim hat trash wear, black kid in skinny jeans and sockhead hipster garb. These people were reading the class code as much as color. Reverse the uniform, and I’d bet real money on a different outcome.

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  161. @Dave Pinsen
    I suspect the same shots with rubber bullets would have stopped Brown as well (though they aren't always non-lethal).

    Google Victoria Snelgrove. I think “non-lethal” measures are more notable for how often they’re not.

    BTW, the Boston cop who shot her was named Rochefort Milien. Guess the race.

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  162. “Yes, the Ferguson Flap has brought the “libertarian” anti-police nuts out of the woodwork, in force.”

    I hate it when Libertarians say that if you legalize all drugs in this country, than the crime/murder rate in the African American community will drop to European American and Asian American levels.

    So the only reason Blacks behave badly is because crack cocaine has not been legalized yet ? So the Black thugs in Knoxville, Tennessee who raped and burned a White couple to death because they were angry that heroin has not been legalized yet ?

    Yeah legalizing all drugs is the magic bullet that will transform African Americans into model minorities.

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  163. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    For some, location of Brown’s hands irrelevant

    Brown had been walking with a friend down the center of Canfield Drive when Wilson, passing in his patrol vehicle, told them to move to the sidewalk. They did not. Wilson testified that he then realized Brown was a robbery suspect. A scuffle broke out at the vehicle. Wilson fired a shot that hit Brown in the right hand. When Brown ran, Wilson gave chase. At some point, Brown stopped and turned toward Wilson, who opened fire.

    Uh, I guess that’s one way to tell the story.

    David Lieb and Holbrook Mohr, professional liars.

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  164. Also interesting, at least to me, is that many otherwise trustworthy European sites (think RT, PressTV, etc.) are also on the side of the looters. Sure, Russia doesn’t mind pointing out the internal problems of the USA (understandably so, considering how they are being bullied and provoked by Washington) but to keep flogging this dead horse is astounding. And considering that they are well aware of how the US has been behind various color revolutions in their sphere of influence it is absolutely astounding that they fail to see the same forces at work fanning the flames of Ferguson.

    Yes, the Russians don’t understand internal US politics, and are just playing this up thinking that it will show the US in a bad light. What they fail to understand is that post-communism, more conservatives than liberals are apt to having sympathies for Russia and her turn towards the right. So when Russia plays up Ferguson, they are not only turning off conservatives, but they are unwittingly helping leftists/progressives in the USA who in fact are the ones likely to hold negative opinions of Russia. The leftists/progs can argue that the USA is so bad on race relations that even the Russians are telling us to get our act in order.

    If the Russians were smart they could exploit the potential opening they have made with US conservatives and try to drive a wedge further between conservatives and leftists in the US. But they are still stuck on the old Cold War days and will happily point out America’s failings over race relations, immigration, etc., which gives leftists more ammo to continue their policies while turning off conservatives who might have held sympathies for Russia. The sorry thing is that this gets them no relief from Uncle Sam, and actually helps the leftists in their internal battle with conservatives. But they probably think conservatives are represented by the likes of John McCain. So they don’t pick up on this point.

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  165. “Since then, the MSM has doubled down about how you can’t believe your lying eyes.”

    They’re definitely doing that. I’m still seeing pictures of Brown as a gentle giant with a graduation cap, other pictures of him with friendly smiles in the news, like he was some kind of damn budding Rhodes scholar innocently on his way to school when gunned down, despite all the evidence about him being in a gang, using drugs, committing crimes, attacking Officer Wilson, etc.. Stories everywhere siding with protesters angry that “the system” is so horrible for exonerating a cop who defended himself against an aggressive criminal violently attacking him.

    I doubt any adult with any real world experience and an IQ over 80 actually believes what the MSM churns out anymore. They’ve completely discredited themselves again and again. Let the Soroses, Slims and Adelsons pay all they want to have these stories disseminated, when people don’t believe them, they’re next to worthless.

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  166. @IBC

    Michael Brown acted crazy.

    We haven’t seen Brown’s juvenile record yet. I think when we finally do see it, we will see some mental health issues.
     
    Yeah, that's a good point. But is there really any chance Brown's juvenile record will ever become public information? From the investigation, I was expecting to hear that he was on some sort of drug that made him go berserk. But so far I haven't heard of anything to support this besides evidence of marijuana usage which is supposed to have the opposite effect.

    I have read that the high THC levels in some modern strains of cannabis cause certain people to have hallucinations and hear voices (Maureen Dowd?) and that there may be links between smoking pot and schizophrenia, though so far there seems to only be evidence for an increased likelihood of usage among those already prone to developing schizophrenia rather than cannabis use triggering it. For more see:

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/278736.php

    Given the very young age of Mike Brown's parents, that might lower the chance that he had schizophrenia too.

    I would agree with you unless there is a lawsuit.

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  167. @Art Deco
    which leaves the Scots-Irish less space for divide and rule.

    The moderator draws a non-zero component of his commenters from the ranks of the asylum population.

    So is it your contention that the Scots-Irish {wink} have zero political influence and zero cultural clout? If it’s non-zero, then why isn’t it permissible to comment on the nature of it?

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  168. @Meredith
    Look at the whole pattern, working together. This is an example of how right wing, anti govt budget cutting ideology combines with low wealth tax rates, and job off shoring that reduces the livelihoods of millions, and that all combines with our racial segregation and biased policing. Police who kill unarmed citizens are not punished. So it goes on. All this produces an underclass along racial lines and with biased policing and incarceration.

    The Times reported that the St Louis county area gets large chunks of revenue from traffic stops, and many people stopped can’t pay the fines or bail. A mostly white police force stops mostly black drivers, and makes for an atmosphere of surveillance and harassment that’s more apt for a Soviet dictatorship than the US. Jail terms often result, further dragging down future earning capacity and devastating families in all ways.

    This combines with increased attitudes of fear, hostility and aggression. Both sides draw farther apart. Community policing can’t thrive. Then Stand Your Ground laws and guns for all everywhere ideology combine to produce powder kegs. Example, the young man shot dead in Walmart while looking at guns and talking on his cell phone. The cops didn’t wait to judge the situation—they were called by a paranoid shopper, and reacted like paranoid automatons themselves.

    Until more politicians forcefully point out this pattern, it will continue to be rationalized and continue. Let's learn from South Africa.

    Let’s learn from South Africa.

    That the presence of large numbers of blacks has a devastating impact on white communities? That’s definitely a lesson worth learning.

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  169. Odd that no one talks about Obama’s background as a community organizer and his lackluster efforts stopping these demonstrations. It’s not a stretch to imagine the younger version of Obama out there, shouting into a megaphone, preening before the cameras with Sharpton, etc. Some sycophantic reporter should ask Obama if he would have used different tactics to protest.

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  170. Russians showing solidarity with the Black looters/rioters in Ferguson, their hatred of America is that extreme.

    What a bunch of hypocrites those Russians are. These pro-Ferguson Russians are the same Russians who discriminate against people from Caucasus region for being “too dark”, even though people from Caucasus countries like Armenia and Georgia look way closer to Russians in phenotype than do Obama’s daughters and sons in Ferguson.

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    Of course people who grew up in a violent, corrupt, totalitarian system, who had relatives disappear, should be rooting for the KGB to kick citizen's asses I mean, it's only logical, right?
  171. @Jefferson
    Russians showing solidarity with the Black looters/rioters in Ferguson, their hatred of America is that extreme.

    What a bunch of hypocrites those Russians are. These pro-Ferguson Russians are the same Russians who discriminate against people from Caucasus region for being "too dark", even though people from Caucasus countries like Armenia and Georgia look way closer to Russians in phenotype than do Obama's daughters and sons in Ferguson.

    Of course people who grew up in a violent, corrupt, totalitarian system, who had relatives disappear, should be rooting for the KGB to kick citizen’s asses I mean, it’s only logical, right?

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  172. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    “Let’s learn from South Africa.”

    Did you ever read “Why I’m fleeing South Africa”, by Anne Paton (widow of Alan Paton), London Sunday Times — DISPATCHES, Sunday, November 29, 1998?

    “I am leaving South Africa. I have lived here for 35 years, and I shall leave with anguish. My home and my friends are here, but I am terrified. … I am the widow of Alan Paton. …

    …Fifty years ago he wrote Cry, The Beloved Country. …

    …I am glad he is not alive now. He would have been so distressed to see what has happened to his beloved country. …

    …I have been hijacked, mugged and terrorised. A few years ago my car was taken from me at gunpoint. I was forced into the passenger seat. I sat there frozen. But just as one man jumped into the back and the other fumbled with the starter I opened the door and ran away. …

    …There is now more racial tension in this country than I have ever known. …

    …But it is not just about black-on-white crime. It is about general lawlessness. Black people suffer more than the whites. They do not have access to private security firms…

    …nothing can succeed while people live in such fear.”

    Have things impoved much in the last 15 years?

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  173. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Let’s try that link again. Nothing is ever easy, they say:

    “Why I’m fleeing South Africa”,
    by Anne Paton (widow of Alan Paton) London Sunday Times — DISPATCHES, Sunday, November 29, 1998.

    “Nothing can succeed while people live in such fear.”, Anne Paton.

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