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Like I’ve been saying, the big trend of 2015, following the anti-Semitic massacres by Muslims in Europe, is that the group that dominates the contemporary mindset, ethnocentric liberal Jews, are starting to feel the pressure on the obvious logical contradictions between their sensible is-it-good-for-the-Jews ethnocentrism and their public avowals of diversity uber alles.

Today in The New Republic, there’s an article by Phoebe Maltz Bovy that is both tendentious and insightful about the Crisis of the Moment: comedy.

Anti-Jewish Jokes Don’t Get a Pass Anymore
Trevor Noah and Lena Dunham learned that lesson the hard way
By Phoebe Maltz Bovy @tweetertation

Trevor Noah

Just as the furor over Lena Dunham’s “Dog or Jewish Boyfriend?” jokes was winding down, a new controversy over Jewish jokes has begun. Trevor Noah, the newly announced replacement for “Daily Show” host Jon Stewart turns out to have tweeted some not nice things about various groups, Jews among them:

Trevor Noah ✔ @Trevornoah
Behind every successful Rap Billionaire is a double as rich Jewish man. #BeatsByDreidel

The background behind Noah’s amusing #BeatsByDreidel hashtag is that NWA rapper Dr. Dre and record executive Jimmy Iovine sold their Beats by Dre headphones company to Apple, with Iovine getting the larger share of the loot. The factual problem with what Noah tweeted, however, is that I can’t find any evidence that Iovine is anything other than Italian Catholic. But, hey, it’s a tweet, not a monograph. On the other hand, it’s “controversial” not because it’s factually mistaken, but because everybody knows that, even without Iovine, Jewish music executives played an outsized role in the gangsta rap that persuaded so many impressionable young black idiots to become crack dealers. If Iovine were actually Jewish, Noah’s joke wouldn’t be better, it would be worse.

Trevor Noah ✔ @Trevornoah
Almost bumped a Jewish kid crossing the road. He didn’t look b4 crossing but I still would hav felt so bad in my german car!

Jewish comedians have been joking about their people’s mania for expensive German cars at least since the 1970s when, in my recollection, the Mercedes-Benz 450 SL convertible was the pre-eminent car in Beverly Hills. But how Jewish is Trevor Noah? Is he ethnically privileged enough to joke about Jews and German cars or not?

Whether the newly (and not so newly) uncovered tweets lean more sexist than anti-Semitic is an open question, though these are not mutually exclusive categories. Did you hear the one about how Jewish women won’t perform oral sex?

Trevor Noah ✔ @Trevornoah
Messi gets the ball and the real players try foul him, but Messi doesn’t go down easy, just like jewish chicks. #ElClasico

Noah’s joke here is that soccer legend Lionel Messi doesn’t flop as much as other players, who fall down a lot hoping to draw the ref’s whistle. Messi is admired for preferring to stay on his feet despite defensive contact and just keep playing. Why comparing Jewish women’s apparent respect for their virtue to the world’s greatest soccer player’s respect for competition rather than for fakery is supposed to be anti-Semitic is unexplained. But that’s not the point, the point is that you aren’t supposed to joke about Jews if you aren’t officially Jewish.

What surprised me wasn’t that a comedian had made anti-Jewish jokes. It was that it’s become common for Jews—and non-Jews—to express outrage over them.

In my response to the latest Dunhamgate, I connected the response to her New Yorker [set of jokes] to a growing sense that anti-Semitism is on the rise. Jeffrey Salkin had a similar take:

The heyday of Jewish comedians coincided with a sense that the Jews had, in fact, arrived. Jews felt safe. But this new wave of anti-Semitism has left Jewish nerves raw and frayed. Call us tribal, if you want—but there is something unnerving about seeing all of those silly Jewish stereotypes on display in the venerable pages of The New Yorker.

There was a time, in the not-so-distant past, when Jewish humor mocked the older generation’s preoccupation with anti-Semitism. In a 1996 “Seinfeld” episode, Jerry’s Uncle Leo believes everyone who’s ever slighted him, including a chef who’s overcooked his burger, is an anti-Semite. It could, at that time, be presented as hilarious and anachronistic that a Jew would see anti-Semitism as a genuine threat. But that was nearly 20 years before Jeffrey Goldberg’s recent article in The Atlantic about the new anti-Semitism. The burden of proof now falls on those wishing to demonstrate that anti-Semitism isn’t a big deal.

But how exactly does one call out casual anti-Semitism in comedy? It can be tough to sort out, in part because it’s often unclear—even to a Jewish audience attuned to such things—if the joke-teller is Jewish. Lena Dunham’s half-Jewish heritage was not immediately obvious to all; that Noah is a quarter Jewish has gone largely unnoticed. Because Jews are only a quasi-visible minority, if that, it’s largely at the artist’s discretion if she is going to self-present as a Jewish performer. Humor that might not seem offensive coming from one comedian of Jewish background might seem so from another—especially if that comedian is a mixed-race South African.

It’s not clear, however, that if Noah pointed out more often that he has a Jewish grandparent that it would be okay for him to make the occasional Jewish joke. Commenter Justin suggested on iSteve:

Seems like as the number of mischlings increases, the full-Jews feel the need to crack down on them, so gentiles don’t get the idea that Jews are fair game for comedy.

As of 2015, there are a lot of Americans who are part-Jewish. It might make pragmatic sense for part-Jews to make use of privileges afforded to self-identifying Jews, such as free Birthright vacations in Israel on Sheldon Adelson’s dime.

But perhaps the great conflict of the future will be between full Jews and part Jews?

Phoebe Maltz Bovy continues:

And what to make of questionable jokes written by Jewish writers but spoken by non-Jewish TV characters? In one “Modern Family” scene, Manny is selling Christmas wrapping paper door-to-door. “Do you love Christmas?” he asks a woman. She tells him she’s Jewish, so Manny—a prepubescent Latino—responds, “Well, then, you must appreciate a good value!” And yet, the show’s co-creator is Jewish. Or consider a recent episode of “The Mindy Project,” in which Mindy Lahiri tells her boyfriend that she wants to raise their kid Jewish, even though neither of them are, “so he can get ahead in life.” Was this not offensive to the many Jews apparently in the writers’ room?

You know, when professional comedy writers feel offended by a joke, they usually try to channel their resentment into topping the other guy’s joke with something even funnier rather than into insisting the other guy shut up and submit. They’re more like Tom Brady v. Peyton Manning than Social Media Justice Warriors v. Jason Richwine or Brendan Eich.

Neither episode caused much of a stir—certainly nothing like the Dunham and Noah flaps—but perhaps they should have, regardless of the background of the writers rehashing these tired stereotypes.

“Tired stereotypes” = obvious stochastic reality.

And who—apart from Jews and their most committed allies, that is—is even going to wonder whether a show’s writers are Jewish? Anti-Semites! And they’re hardly going to object to Jews-and-money humor.

In America, the 97% of the population who aren’t either Jews or anti-Semites are pretty much intellectually disarmed by crimestop. It’s fascinating to try to list members of the 97% who kept their wits when it comes to thinking about Jewish influence in America. Off the top of my head, I can think of the obvious examples of Daniel Patrick Moynihan and Richard Nixon who together in 1969 conjured up neoconservatism by deliberately exploiting the Jewish ethnocentrism revivified by the 1967 Six-Day-War to get more Jewish intellectuals to support America in the Cold War. But in the last 45 years, I can only come up with a handful of names of gentiles who haven’t been intimidated: John Updike (for his good-natured series about the Jewish novelist Bech), and …

That fact that we’re having this debate indicates that anti-Jewish humor no longer gets a pass, that it’s not hypersensitive or paranoid of Jews to complain about anti-Semitism. This, combined with a broader culture of calling out insensitivity online, has made Jews more comfortable speaking out about things that some of us had been noticing all along. There’s a parallel to Dreyfus-era France here; indeed, it’s a pattern in Jewish history.

The difference from Dreyfus-era France, however, is that the people who turned out to be wrong in the Dreyfus case then were stripped of power by the 1905 legislation. In contrast, whenever some SJW case comes a cropper in a formal process of justice, as with Ellen Pao and Haven Monahan last week, we get lectured on how the important thing is that the sins of straight white cisgendered males were exposed.

More generally, comedy is much like sports in that both are important elements of why life is better today than during, say, the Dark Ages. Our natural hostilities and aggressions have found largely non-lethal outlets in sports and comedy.

While every culture tries to control internecine violence, often by trying to lessen animus toward others, Jewish culture found an interesting alternative, as implied by Berkeley historian Yuri Slezkine in his award-winning 2004 book The Jewish Century. Instead of trying, like Christianity to get people to act nicer toward the rest of the world, rabbinical Jews accepted disarmament, preventing feelings of hostility from being terribly fatal within the community. And resentment, such as of Jewish women toward Jewish men, is routed outside of the Jewish community to maintain ethnic unity, thus creating, for example, contemporary feminism.

Moreover, it’s better for everybody to sublimate anger into verbal aggression, especially in the form of humor.

Comedy has thus been an important avenue of the rise to dominance of Jews, rather like how the Victorian Anglo-Saxon genius for sports has reshaped the world in ways favorable to the English-speaking nations.

But what if the gentiles get good at comedy, too? Or, if you believe that gentiles are genetically unable to be funny, what about the proliferating numbers of only vaguely Jewish like this guy Noah?

While Obama is half black and half shy WASP, maybe somebody in the future will come along who is both part black, and thus a member of moral aristocracy of the world, as propounded in the media for generations by liberal ethnocentric Jews as a motte and bailey strategy, and part Jewish, and thus without the debilitating “Goyishe kop,” and really shake things up. Poor Trevor Noah may have unwittingly walked into embodying the greatest fear of ethnocentric liberal Jews: somebody who is both black and Jewish genetically, but isn’t obviously either loyal or frightened.

Is the important thing to compete, rather like how the British are now pretty hapless at winning world championships in the sports they invented?

Or is the important thing to win?

The funny Jews have had a good long run, but the unfunny Jews are now getting extremely concerned that things are getting out of hand, and that the future lies with Speaking Power to Truth.

 
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  1. Maciano says:

    Larry D did one on shiksa BJs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx5A3ZCFuvM

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    That was the 2nd time a CYE episode revolved around this paraphilia (but probably its psychological parameters -- insofar as serves comedic purpose -- were best explored in the haute-goy "The World According to Garp")
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  2. SPEAKING POWER TO TRUTH. I’m gonna use that.

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    Serving comment beat me to it.
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  3. P says:

    “Family Guy” somehow keeps getting away with pretty outrageous jokes about Jews. Take a look at this one, for example. I’m sure they have plenty of Jewish writers and producers, but the show is strongly identified with Seth MacFarlane so there have been some rumblings.

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    • Replies: @Chiron
    Yeah, its something I noticed about Family Guy when I still watched TV, its way less deferential toward jews than other comedy shows.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Family Guy gets away with a lot more than a live action show would. E.g., this "Are you smarter than a Hispanic Maid" segment: http://youtu.be/zgD5AlA0hd4
    , @Anonymous
    MacFarlane has also tweeted in support of Noah:

    https://twitter.com/SethMacFarlane/status/583110758831038464

    , @Harry Baldwin
    “Family Guy” somehow keeps getting away with pretty outrageous jokes about Jews.

    How about the one where Peter puts a "scare-Jew" in front of his house--a scarecrow that looks like Hitler. Stereotype Mort Goldman sees it and runs away screaming, "Agh! He's back! Protect Jon Stewart! He's our most important Jew!"
    , @slumber_j
    I dunno: South Park has been doing that for a really long time. Cf the "Jew Gold" business here:

    http://southpark.cc.com/clips/155015/jew-gold
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  4. “Phoebe Maltz Bovy”

    Funny, they all seem to have names like this.

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  5. Mike Zwick [AKA "Dahinda"] says:

    Do you think that the whole “controversy” behind this guy is just a ruse to gain publicity?

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  6. Steve,

    I love ya and you’re my favorite pundit, so with all due respect….. I hate to interrupt today’s OCD-like analysis of all things pop culture/Jewish, but are you ever going to address the World War G equivalent of Normandy going on in Indiana right now? Outside of Twitter and Pat Buchanan, no one on the dissident right is even talking about it. What gives, man? Outrage fatigue? It’s just The Flyover? Graciously accepting defeat? The eerie silence is unnerving.

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    • Replies: @keypusher
    Are you kidding? The Culture Wars are like Jackson v. Cherokees at this point, if not McDonalds v. cows. What we're seeing in Indiana is just the latest unconditional surrender.
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  7. bigduke6 says:

    The most offensive thing about any of these tweets is that anyone thinks that Trevor Noah is funny. Everything I’ve seen from him is painfully bad. Your attempts to explain them just highlight how poorly constructed and hacky they really are.

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  8. Chiron says:
    @P
    "Family Guy" somehow keeps getting away with pretty outrageous jokes about Jews. Take a look at this one, for example. I'm sure they have plenty of Jewish writers and producers, but the show is strongly identified with Seth MacFarlane so there have been some rumblings.

    Yeah, its something I noticed about Family Guy when I still watched TV, its way less deferential toward jews than other comedy shows.

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  9. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Lyor Cohen, not Jimmy Iovine.

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  10. RW says:

    Humor probably arose as a way for men to sublimate sexual desire. Sex jokes should always be okay.

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  11. SPmoore8 says:

    I think the main reason Trevor Noah is getting so much attention is that it’s a slow news cycle and this sort of story is in the wheelhouse of the liberal progressive media. Which reminds me, today is April 1st but I haven’t seen any April Fool’s gags anywhere.

    I note that Phoebe moved away from the Atlantic to the death throes TNR; and this is what the “vertically integrated ­digital-media company” looks like now. (PS: Cynthia Ozick wrote an incredibly pretentious article about writers for the the NYTimes and Phoebe attacked her a few days ago, Ozick’s piece contained a jibe against the new TNR.)

    Phoebe is kind of cute, her double barreled name comes from her husband, but C’est ci bon. Alyssa on the other hand has been doing this for 20 years, IIRC, starting out answering simple questions on fledgling “whaddya wanna know” websites and moving on now to dismissing Romeo and Juliet and condemning jokes about “heavier” women. Heavier than whom?

    Another reason why we are getting these weird “anti-Semitism” stories probably has to do with the fact that Passover is on Friday and it’s time to set the table.

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  12. Chiron says:

    “The difference from Dreyfus-era France, however, is that the people who turned out to be wrong in the Dreyfus case then were stripped of power by the 1905 legislation”

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1905_French_law_on_the_Separation_of_the_Churches_and_the_State

    Something that isn’t mentioned about the Dreyfuss Affair is that jews in France came out stronger after it, the Catholic Church and the Military lost influence in French Society and the International Socialist movement leadered by jews become much stronger, France first Socialist Prime-Minister was the jews Leon Blum in 1936.

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  13. The factual problem with what Noah tweeted, however, is that I can’t find any evidence that Iovine is anything other than Italian Catholic

    Dre’s former gang N.W.A.’s manager was — trigger warning — a Jewish guy. Believe it or not the black comedians of that era seemed to find this funny in a genuinely self-deprecating sense, e.g. the rappers would front about earning such fearsome riches by dint of their hardness but tended to have a shlemiel off to the side actually minding the $$$ and the promotional sched. Of course then there is the added wrinkle that the manager was also a stereotypical Jewish manager, which led to some tension. I’m pretty sure this wonderfully stereotype-y type of stereo trope is referenced in both “CB4″ and “Fear of a Black Hat” — the latter written/directed by a Fair-Trade Birkenstock left-winger dude but refreshingly un-P.C. Oh, to live in the early 90s…

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    I think I read it here but Russell Simmons actually fronted for Rick Rubin, who was the guy who created the sound that is now known as Rap while they were at CCNY together.

    Before that rap "songs" were long with simple rhymes over a DJ's spinning and mixing. The Sugar Hill Gang, etc. was the original sound, but it gets tedious. Rubin changed to shorter, bass driven raps and edgier lyrics. When Simmons heard Rubin's edits and cuts they went into business together. Simmons was just the front man for the street cred. Rubin made the sound.
    , @Dain
    Speaking of early 90s, I was watching Saved by the Bell and was shocked by how dated it is relative to modern SJW sensibility. The attractive female cast openly mocking fat girls, male cast picking on ridiculously stereotyped nerds, etc.
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  14. Reading Brave New World today, i’m understanding some ”liberal proposals” (i.e, impositions) and Talmud. Ideological conditioning. Bernard Marx has fetal alcohol syndrome

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  15. keypusher says:

    Steve, for the avoidance of doubt as they say, those jokes really are poorly done (leaving aside their subject matter). And he doesn’t get a pass because it’s twitter. He got in trouble precisely because those jokes stuck around and could be found right in his twitter feed. Twitter is like anything else, it can be done well or badly. If you’re going to do it badly, don’t do it.

    Hard to believe he’s just an affirmative action hire, though. Standup, like basketball, was an area where I thought affirmative action wasn’t needed.

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    Maybe this guy is Comedy Central's Harriet Miers?
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  16. Trevor Noah and Lena Dunham learned that lesson the hard way

    ‘hard’ as in a few people get mad and the whole thing blows over in a couple days?

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  17. The Laumann sexual survey found that Jewish-Americans report significantly more sexual partners than American Protestants and Catholics. The General Social Survey has found that both Jewish-American men and women report more sexual partners than, respectively, gentile men and women.

    So I don’t understand where people get this idea of Jewish female frigidity or the awkward/virgin Jewish male. It seems like when it comes to acquiring sexual partners, Jews do relatively well. They’re more “alpha” and “slutty” (depending on your choice of terms) than white gentiles.

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    The Laumann sexual survey found that Jewish-Americans report significantly more sexual partners than American Protestants and Catholics. The General Social Survey has found that both Jewish-American men and women report more sexual partners than, respectively, gentile men and women.

    So I don’t understand where people get this idea of Jewish female frigidity or the awkward/virgin Jewish male.
     
    You think it might come from the same place where people get the idea that George Zimmerman is a White racist murderer?
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  18. Mike says: • Website

    Why comparing Jewish women’s apparent respect for their virtue to the world’s greatest soccer player’s respect for competition rather than for fakery is supposed to be anti-Semitic is unexplained.

    That made me laugh…

    Much funnier than Noah’s tweet.

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  19. @Maciano
    Larry D did one on shiksa BJs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx5A3ZCFuvM

    That was the 2nd time a CYE episode revolved around this paraphilia (but probably its psychological parameters — insofar as serves comedic purpose — were best explored in the haute-goy “The World According to Garp”)

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  20. AshTon says:

    These are a little amusing. Yes, he’s Jewish.

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  21. Here are two truly transgressive jokes on TV during the last 20 years:

    The Simpsons: Lisa asks a nice white lady from the government why the feds can’t spend more money on one of Lisa’s pet projects. The lady explains that the feds only have so much money, so they can only afford to spend money on the really important stuff, like “anti-smoking programs, tobacco subsidies, and Israel.”

    King of the Hill: Hank’s dad, who was missing both legs below the knee (I think they were shot off in Viet Nam IIRC), is always complaining about how unfair life is. Hank tells him it’s unseemly and asks him to knock it off: “Look, Dad, I know you’ve had a rough life, but can you please give it a rest every now and then? I know it’s hard, but you can do it. Look how much the Jews have suffered, but you never hear them complaining.”

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    The Colonel lost his shyins to the damn Tojos after killing 200 single handed. Favorite character along with Kahn and Buck Strickland. Octavio cool too Ese.
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  22. In Best Of The Web Today recently they excerpted an apologetic NY Times correction for an article which had erroneously implied that “yenta” meant “matchmaker” instead of what it actually means (classic Oscar trivia screw-up). I guess it’s possible that a professor of Yiddish literature somewhere brought it to their attention; but I prefer to imagine the correction was provoked by someone writing in to complain (thus making it even funnier on multiple levels)

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  23. A problem with some of the political blogs (such as the Wash Post Alyssa Rosenberg) is that they are rewarded for website clicks and so engage in “click-baiting” by deliberately provoking a reaction, and thereby getting mentioned elsewhere and generating more clicks. So it is not always possible to take them seriously.

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  24. One problem with stereotype humor achieving the level of actually being humorous is that much of it is just a rehash of things that one already knows or has heard about. Once a person gets past the age of thirty or forty it’s all old hat. What’s funny past that point is someone making observations or connections between things one hasn’t had occur to him. That requires innovation though, which is harder to accomplish. Tell me something I haven’t heard before.

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  25. Bill P says:

    As of 2015, there are a lot of Americans who are part-Jewish. It might make pragmatic sense for part-Jews to make use of privileges afforded to self-identifying Jews, such as free Birthright vacations in Israel on Sheldon Adelson’s dime.

    But perhaps the great conflict of the future will be between full Jews and part Jews?

    Well, one major issue of contention is the civil marriage issue in Israel (civil marriage doesn’t exist there). In order to legally marry in Israel, one has to use an approved synagague/mosque/church. So if you’re Jewish on your father’s side in the reform/conservative tradition that is most common for liberal Jews, you may have the right to make Aliyah, but you can’t marry into a Jewish family in Israel without first going through a tedious conversion process and gaining acceptance into Orthodox Judaism. In fact, you can’t even get married to an American Jew in Israel without doing so unless your mother is racially Jewish. You’d have to go to Cyprus.

    This de facto ethnic purity law seems reasonable enough to me given Israel’s demographics and the Jews’ relatively small status as a nation, but a lot of American half Jews don’t like it for understandable reasons. They don’t feel fully accepted as Jews, so there’s some resentment there. I imagine this is magnified when the non-Jewish part is non-white. It seems to me that half-Jews are more readily accepted into the fold when they are half European and look like, say, Michael Landon.

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    >> without first going through a tedious conversion process and gaining acceptance into Orthodox Judaism


    not so. Express arrangements can be made. You need to find the correct lawyer-intermediary-bagman.

    There's a few that have offices in the Old Central Bus Station (of TelAviv). Once a country starts bringing in mass quantities of 20-somethings Filipinas for household labor, there inevitably occurs the phenomenon of local-yokel 50-something divorced guys who start sniffing around them. The shack-up-ness migrates to marriage faster here than in some other countries, because we keep guest-workers on MUCH tighter visa leashes. So, the guy decides to just put a ring on it.

    Go to the Old Bus Station, buy yourself a lunch at an Adobo joint, and start chatting up the waitresses. They can point you in the right direction.
    , @j
    Jews’ relatively small status as a nation

    I'd formulate it instead as "Jews' status as a relatively small nation"

    If anything, our status is "big".
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  26. “maybe somebody in the future will come along who is both part black, and thus a member of moral aristocracy of the world, as propounded in the media for generations by liberal ethnocentric Jews as a motte and bailey strategy, and part Jewish”

    If the draft paper (page 23) quoted by Roissy is correct, their parents won’t have met on Yahoo Personals :

    http://paa2008.princeton.edu/papers/80046

    “Finally, religion affects black exclusion, and Asian exclusion among white women. Specifically, we see that whites who identified as Jewish were dropped from the analysis of black exclusion because it was a perfect predictor; that is, all white men and women who identified as Jewish excluded blacks as possible dates; all white women who identified as Jewish also excluded Asian men as possible dates.”

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  27. Annie, you should know better than to hoard money! That’s a stereotype!

    It’s anti-Semitic to do things like that, when you know full well that you’re Jewish

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  28. Trevor’s mild jokes about Jews get noticed but his stridently anti-white views sserve to burnish his resumé. The following is from News Busters:

    On Monday, Comedy Central announced that South African comedian Trevor Noah would be replacing Jon Stewart as host of The Daily Show. To get a feel for Noah’s brand of humor, one could simply watch his debut on the fake news show in December of 2014, when he jokingly declared that present-day America had worse race relations than Apartheid South Africa.

    After introducing Noah as the show’s newest contributor at the time, Stewart noted: “And I know that you flew in, I guess, yesterday from South Africa.” Noah replied: “Yeah, I just flew in and boy are my arms tired….No, no, seriously, I’ve been holding my arms like this since I got here.” He made the completely discredited “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” gesture with his hands and added: “I never thought I’d be more afraid of police in America than in South Africa. It kind of makes me a little nostalgic for the old days back home.”

    Later in the exchange, Stewart wondered: “But you’re not saying that things in Africa are better than they are in America, are you?”

    Noah responded: “No, no, no, I’m not saying that – you guys are saying that.” A soundbite followed of left-wing New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof ranting on CNN:

    The United States right now incarcerates more African-Americans, as a percentage, than Apartheid South Africa did. The race gap in wealth in the United States right now between the median white family and the median black family is eighteen-fold, that’s greater than the black-white wealth gap was in Apartheid South Africa.

    Noah concluded: “Here’s the amazing part, for South Africa to achieve that kind of black-white wealth gap, we had to construct an entire Apartheid state, denying blacks the right to vote or own property. But you, you did it without even trying. We trained for decades and you just waltzed in and won the gold medal.”

    Even the response from Stewart’s reliably liberal audience was muted as Noah made the incendiary racial jokes.

    With Nightly Show host Larry Wilmore having already taken over Stephen Colbert’s time slot, the addition of Noah may give Comedy Central a full hour of late-night race-baiting.

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    "his stridently anti-white views"
    Seems like you have the same problem with whites in jokes as that Phoebe chick with Jews. Can't really see your anti-white point in the quote.

    But what I noticed quoted in the quote:

    The United States right now incarcerates more African-Americans, as a percentage, than Apartheid South Africa did.
     
    How many African-Americans were jailed in South Africa? African-Africans (or whatever the PC term might be) on the other hand...
    , @bossel
    "his stridently anti-white views"
    Seems like you have the same problem with whites in jokes as that Phoebe chick with Jews. Can't really see your anti-white point in the quote.

    But what I noticed quoted in the quote:


    The United States right now incarcerates more African-Americans, as a percentage, than Apartheid South Africa did.
     
    How many African-Americans were jailed in South Africa? Not many, I suppose. African-Africans (or whatever the PC term might be) on the other hand...
    , @ben tillman

    The United States right now incarcerates more African-Americans, as a percentage, than Apartheid South Africa did.
     
    As Bossel noted, the South African government didn't imprison African-Americans. For a Harvard grad, Kristof is a special kind of stupid. And when is the Times going to hire an editor?
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  29. Off topic, but Joni Mitchell’s illness that prevents her from performing (Morgellons syndrome) really does sound like the kind of thing that an Old Testament monarch who offended God, or a victim of witchcraft, would suffer from. Not nice.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgellons

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  30. syonredux says: • Website

    Just as the furor over Lena Dunham’s “Dog or Jewish Boyfriend?”

    Somehow that particular tempest in a PC teapot managed to pass me by.

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    Hey, don't feel bad-- I can't figure out why the hell everyone started talking about Indiana all of a sudden. Was there an outbreak of mutant corn creatures? Did either or both of the Hemsworth brothers sign onto a remake of "Hoosiers"
    , @Priss Factor
    "Just as the furor over Lena Dunham’s 'Dog or Jewish Boyfriend?'"

    That was just in the cute category, as her joke about penny-pinching Jews.

    That is so old and harmless since Jews are no longer penny-pinchers.
    The notion of the penny-pinching Jew implies that Jews haven't yet made it and are saving every penny.
    A real stinging and relevant Jewish joke today wouldn't be about Jews pinching pennies but about Jews throwing massive amounts of money to buy up politicians and other people in positions of influence. Even this Trevor Noah controversy is all about how Jews should throw their money around. Is it a lucrative deal to offer millions to this comedian who goes by South African cultural rules and isn't properly sensitive about 'American' rules that have been rejiggered by Jews.

    Indeed, Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban would be far less dangerous if they pinched pennies than if they threw hundreds of millions at politicians who grovel at their feet.

    Jordan Belfort and Benrie Madoff were NOT penny-pinching Jews but Jews who threw their money around, and they turned out to be far more dangerous than penny pinching Jewish pawnbrokers of old.

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  31. Just as the furor over Lena Dunham’s “Dog or Jewish Boyfriend?” jokes was winding down. . .

    You have to laugh at something being described as a “furor” when 95% of Americans never heard about it or couldn’t care less. The proverbial tempest in a teapot.

    The heyday of Jewish comedians coincided with a sense that the Jews had, in fact, arrived. Jews felt safe.

    I don’t recall this heyday when Jewish comedians didn’t frequently reference their Jewish paranoia. Was it in 1977, when Woody Allen made Annie Hall? It contained numerous references to his paranoia, as when, for example, he insisted that someone had asked him, “Jew eat yet?”

    Lena Dunham’s half-Jewish heritage was not immediately obvious to all

    True, I assumed she was 100% Jewish.

    BTW, the “offensive” jokes quoted from Modern Family strike me as funny and benign.

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    True. As ca. 95% of Americans really don't care about these petty community squabbles, how about if these media outlets stop wasting precious time and trees and start writing and highlighting issues of which the majority of Americans do care about, such as say….illegal immigration?

    Something that actually affects tens of millions of citizens rather than at most a few thousand positions in NY; LA?
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  32. @syonredux

    Just as the furor over Lena Dunham’s “Dog or Jewish Boyfriend?”
     
    Somehow that particular tempest in a PC teapot managed to pass me by.

    Hey, don’t feel bad– I can’t figure out why the hell everyone started talking about Indiana all of a sudden. Was there an outbreak of mutant corn creatures? Did either or both of the Hemsworth brothers sign onto a remake of “Hoosiers”

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    Yesterday on the golf course, my playing partner was a 80+ Ital with many grandkids who speaks freely about his nightmare year teaching in a mostly black high school. Yet he asks me why Indiana has to cause so much "consternation" with this legislation. Nice guy, so had to bite my tongue.
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  33. Maj. Kong says:

    O/T

    Milk rotting at the dairy

    http://hotair.com/archives/2015/03/31/dairy-farmers-bemoan-lack-of-illegal-aliens/

    I question the right of milk to remain white, as it is apparently a chief agent in the displacement of people of that color.

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  34. How can this guy possibly make insightful, if sarcastic, commentary on US culture and politics with a tweet like this:

    Trevor Noah ✔ @Trevornoah
    Messi gets the ball and the real players try foul him, but Messi doesn’t go down easy, just like jewish chicks. #ElClasico

    I mean, has he never heard of Monica Lewinsky? #Fat#Jewish#Oral She’s a hat trick! but maybe so last century

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  35. Erik L says:

    I understand that this sensitivity is incomprehensible to someone who was born after, say, 1980. The Jews pretty much run everything. There’s barely any antisemitism in the US. The holocaust was a long time ago and there is no chance that kind of thing will ever happen again.

    But, to my father’s generation the holocaust wasn’t a long time ago. And, the history of the Jews (as believed by the Jews whatever the revisionist might or might not say) is a series of stories of being accepted in a country for a while, then the locals get mad about the banking and stuff and then kicking them out.

    All this banking, running industries from the shadows, ethnocentricity, looking after their own at the expense of the “host” country is the rationale behind the holocaust.

    So, yes, I don’t agree that any group is above making fun of. Just understand why these particular jokes still make Jews nervous in a way that, for example, jokes about Irish drinking would not (make the Irish nervous, obviously)

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    It always astounds me that Jews never seem to make the connection between their behaviour (such as that you refer to) and an eventual explosion of goyim resentment, which is always portrayed as resulting from mindless bigotry.

    You'd image that absorbing this vital lesson would represent a major step forward for their ethnic evolutionary strategy. As well as a God-send for the rest of us!
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Most of the Jews killed by the Nazis had nothing to do with banking at all. What % of Polish Jews do you think were bankers? And prominent German Jewish bankers and industrialists like Rathenau or the Warburgs were highly assimilated patriots.
    , @syonredux
    The overwhelming majority of the Jews killed by the Nazis lived outside of Germany (in Poland, Russia, Ukraine, etc).The extermination of European Jewry was only one small part of Hitler's plan to racially remake Eastern Europe:

    The Final Solution, as the Nazis called it, was originally only one of the exterminatory projects to be implemented after a victorious war against the Soviet Union. Had things gone the way that Hitler, Himmler, and Göring expected, German forces would have implemented a Hunger Plan in the Soviet Union in the winter of 1941–1942. As Ukrainian and south Russian agricultural products were diverted to Germany, some 30 million people in Belarus, northern Russia, and Soviet cities were to be starved to death. The Hunger Plan was only a prelude to Generalplan Ost, the colonization plan for the western Soviet Union, which foresaw the elimination of some 50 million people.

    The Germans did manage to carry out policies that bore some resemblance to these plans. They expelled half a million non-Jewish Poles from lands annexed to the Reich. An impatient Himmler ordered a first stage of Generalplan Ost implemented in eastern Poland: ten thousand Polish children were killed and a hundred thousand adults expelled. The Wehrmacht purposefully starved about one million people in the siege of Leningrad, and about a hundred thousand more in planned famines in Ukrainian cities. Some three million captured Soviet soldiers died of starvation or disease in German prisoner-of-war camps. These people were purposefully killed: as with the siege of Leningrad, the knowledge and intention to starve people to death was present. Had the Holocaust not taken place, this would be recalled as the worst war crime in modern history.

    In the guise of anti-partisan actions, the Germans killed perhaps three quarters of a million people, about 350,000 in Belarus alone, and lower but comparable numbers in Poland and Yugoslavia. The Germans killed more than a hundred thousand Poles when suppressing the Warsaw Uprising of 1944. Had the Holocaust not happened, these “reprisals” too would be regarded as some of the greatest war crimes in history. In fact they, like the starvation of Soviet prisoners of war, are scarcely recalled at all beyond the countries directly concerned. German occupation policies killed non-Jewish civilians in other ways as well, for example by hard labor in prison camps. Again: these were chiefly people from Poland or the Soviet Union.
     
    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2009/jul/16/holocaust-the-ignored-reality/
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  36. Big Bill says:

    Brilliant. Yet another article that they will read, mention to their closest co-religionists, and never ever mention in mixed company (or in the press).

    How strange it must feel to be a “dirty intellectual secret” to such a multitude.

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  37. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    “Anti-Jewish Jokes Don’t Get a Pass Anymore”

    When did it ever?

    Btw, all ethnic jokes are anti-, even when told by people of the group.

    The nature of comedy is mockery, insult, hyperbole, exaggeration, subversion.

    Jews can dish it out but can’t take it.

    “tweeted some not nice things”

    So, only ‘nice’ reverent jokes are permissible about Jews?

    ——

    How many Jews does it take to save the world?

    One, because Jews are so great and wonderful.

    Okay, I’m properly reverent.

    Give me the job as host of DS.

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  38. Sean says:

    The aftermath of the Dreyfus affair was rather more serious. In the Affaire Des Fiches of 1904-1905 it was discovered that army promotions were determined by government using a Masonic card index on public officials, detailing which were Catholic and who attended Mass. Catholics were excluded from promotions. Hence the crap leadership of the French army 10 years later

    Everyone who in any way fails reject the traditional culture and people of the west as inherently evil is marked and taken down. Whole countries, even nuclear armed superpowers are going to inexorably fade away because they fail to go along with whatever social engineering is the policy of the US. Gay marriage or race policies can’t be countered by knowledge about religion (or science). for that would be ta kind of appeal to a transcendent knowledge set over the Leviathan state. As Hobbes said there is only one power and all must submit to it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leviathan_and_the_Air-Pump

    The liberal Jews are the west’s nemesis, but Western liberalism is also the Jews’ nemesis. Slowly but surely we’ll take them with us. There is something very consoling about that .

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  39. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    Nice and reverent joke about Jews.

    A Catholic, Muslim, and a Rabbi see a old black lady crossing the street.

    The Catholic, being an evil ‘racist’ privileged white male, knocks her down, punches her in the face, calls her the n-word, and laugh.

    The Muslim, being intolerant and vicious, calls her an infidel and sets her on fire.

    The Rabbi, being so caring and wonderful, calls the ambulance and sits by her side as she recuperates and donates half his wealth to her family.

    Approved by ADL.

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    And knows a good lawyer , right ?
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  40. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    Much of the yammering on this issue is baloney.

    Lena Dunham is Jewish. She looks Jewish. Howard Stern and Bill Maher are Jewish too.
    But then the Ashkenazis began as half-Jews anyways as the fathers were Jewish and mothers were Euro.
    The bitching about Dunham makes little sense since it was the Jewish side of her that was being irreverent. It’s like Pauline Kael and Woody Allen and Mel Brooks would crack jokes about Jews too.

    The fact is in America, almost everyone is deathly afraid to say anything to offend Jews.
    So, this is a bogus controversy. As for Europe, anti-Jewish remarks are illegal there.

    So, this issue is REALLY about Jews and Africans(esp South Africans) and indirectly Palestinians.

    Jewish narrative says Jews and blacks are allies in the US and in Africa.

    Jews supported the Civil Rights.

    But blacks don’t see it that way. They have many stories of bad Jewish merchants, bad Jewish agents, bad Jewish managers, etc. They have lots of stories of Jewish exploitation of blacks. Blacks are also envious of Jewish success. Blacks suspect lots of Jews are like Donald Sterling in private.
    The worst relations for Jews in the US have been with blacks.
    And yet the Jewish-black alliance is symbolically very important because it milks ‘white guilt’ and associates holocaust with slavery(never mind southern Jews were slavers too). It’s also profitable as Jews make big bucks off black music and sports.

    What Jews are really afraid of is more BLACKS saying ‘anti-Jewish’ things. What if blacks don’t play the anti-white-privilege game and point to Jews as the uber-privileged?
    Jews have been hiding their wealth by associating themselves with poor blacks. If blacks say Jews are the enemy, big trouble for Jews in terms of moral symbolism.
    So, the Jewish narrative and black narrative are at odds.
    That is why Jews were nuts about Obama, a mulatto whom they built from scratch. All black politicians that came out of the black community have been disastrous for Jews.
    (I wonder if blacks are offended by this brouhaha over Trevor.)

    This Trevor Noah seems like the Obama of comedy. And yet his jokes suggest different standards in Africa, esp South Africa.

    SA is NOT politically correct on the matter of Jews.

    Jews push the narrative that ‘anti-racist’ Jews worked with the world to end apartheid in Africa. Most Americans believe this.
    So, even as white Republicans grovel and apologize that Reagan had supported the Boer Republic, Jews beam with pride that they supported Mandela.

    Problem is most blacks in South Africa don’t see it that way. Their hero Mandela was allies with Arafat and PLO. Israel was the #1 ally of the Boer Republic. Blacks in South Africa totally sympathize with Palestinians ans see Jews as diamond merchants.
    Sure, some commie and liberal Jews did work to end apartheid, but many ran off to apartheid Israel when things got hot in South Africa.

    The preferred Jewish narrative on South Africa and the black South African narrative on Jews are very different. To blacks, Jews are Zionist ‘racists’ who oppress Palestinians and aided the apartheid Boer Republic.

    Because Trevor is urbane, mulatto, and part-Jewish, he seemed like a shining hope supporting the Jewish narrative of South Africa as the wonderful example of diversity. In truth, it is one of the most anti-Jewish nations in the world even though its top politicians are savvy enough not to offend Jews.

    As Jews are so rich, their victimism can only be perpetuated through association, and the most valuable asset is with blacks cuz blackness is associated with ‘white guilt’ and white addiction in sports and music.

    What is upsetting to Jews is the revelation that anti-Jewishness is so casual in South Africa that even part-Jewish Trevor routinely makes them to earn street cred as a negro than as a Jew.

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    But blacks don’t see it that way. They have many stories of bad Jewish merchants, bad Jewish agents, bad Jewish managers, etc. They have lots of stories of Jewish exploitation of blacks. Blacks are also envious of Jewish success.
     
    Black Americans have a big chip on their shoulders.Slavery in America didn't end via a massive, Haitian-style slave revolt .No, it ended thanks to the efforts of WASP abolitionists. Jim Crow didn't end because Blacks destroyed the system.No, it ended because liberal White Jews bankrolled the NAACP and White Christian and Jewish politicians decided that Jim Crow was bad for America's image abroad (why give free propaganda points away to the Soviets?).


    Deep down, Blacks know that what they have today is due to White people. That breeds resentment.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Woody Allen and Mel Brooks are funny. They are talented writers as well as performers. Dunham is more of a comic actress. She bombed in that New Yorker piece. I've noticed Judd Apatow's name appear in the writing credits on Girls occasionally, which seems below his pay grade. I'm guessing that's because Dunham and the writers she hired for her thinly-plotted show had been struggling.
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  42. bossel says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Trevor's mild jokes about Jews get noticed but his stridently anti-white views sserve to burnish his resumé. The following is from News Busters:

    On Monday, Comedy Central announced that South African comedian Trevor Noah would be replacing Jon Stewart as host of The Daily Show. To get a feel for Noah's brand of humor, one could simply watch his debut on the fake news show in December of 2014, when he jokingly declared that present-day America had worse race relations than Apartheid South Africa.

    After introducing Noah as the show's newest contributor at the time, Stewart noted: "And I know that you flew in, I guess, yesterday from South Africa." Noah replied: "Yeah, I just flew in and boy are my arms tired....No, no, seriously, I've been holding my arms like this since I got here." He made the completely discredited "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" gesture with his hands and added: "I never thought I'd be more afraid of police in America than in South Africa. It kind of makes me a little nostalgic for the old days back home."

    Later in the exchange, Stewart wondered: "But you're not saying that things in Africa are better than they are in America, are you?"

    Noah responded: "No, no, no, I'm not saying that – you guys are saying that." A soundbite followed of left-wing New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof ranting on CNN:

    The United States right now incarcerates more African-Americans, as a percentage, than Apartheid South Africa did. The race gap in wealth in the United States right now between the median white family and the median black family is eighteen-fold, that's greater than the black-white wealth gap was in Apartheid South Africa.

     

    Noah concluded: "Here's the amazing part, for South Africa to achieve that kind of black-white wealth gap, we had to construct an entire Apartheid state, denying blacks the right to vote or own property. But you, you did it without even trying. We trained for decades and you just waltzed in and won the gold medal."

    Even the response from Stewart's reliably liberal audience was muted as Noah made the incendiary racial jokes.

    With Nightly Show host Larry Wilmore having already taken over Stephen Colbert's time slot, the addition of Noah may give Comedy Central a full hour of late-night race-baiting.

     

    “his stridently anti-white views”
    Seems like you have the same problem with whites in jokes as that Phoebe chick with Jews. Can’t really see your anti-white point in the quote.

    But what I noticed quoted in the quote:

    The United States right now incarcerates more African-Americans, as a percentage, than Apartheid South Africa did.

    How many African-Americans were jailed in South Africa? African-Africans (or whatever the PC term might be) on the other hand…

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    Seems like you have the same problem with whites in jokes as that Phoebe chick with Jews. Can’t really see your anti-white point in the quote.

    As far as I'm concerned, anyone still on Michael Brown's side is anti-white. I can't see any other rationale for that position. The same goes for those who think we have too many blacks in prison in the US--obviously, we have too few, since the unincarcerated ones continue to account for such a disproportionate amount of violent crime.
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  43. bossel says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Trevor's mild jokes about Jews get noticed but his stridently anti-white views sserve to burnish his resumé. The following is from News Busters:

    On Monday, Comedy Central announced that South African comedian Trevor Noah would be replacing Jon Stewart as host of The Daily Show. To get a feel for Noah's brand of humor, one could simply watch his debut on the fake news show in December of 2014, when he jokingly declared that present-day America had worse race relations than Apartheid South Africa.

    After introducing Noah as the show's newest contributor at the time, Stewart noted: "And I know that you flew in, I guess, yesterday from South Africa." Noah replied: "Yeah, I just flew in and boy are my arms tired....No, no, seriously, I've been holding my arms like this since I got here." He made the completely discredited "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" gesture with his hands and added: "I never thought I'd be more afraid of police in America than in South Africa. It kind of makes me a little nostalgic for the old days back home."

    Later in the exchange, Stewart wondered: "But you're not saying that things in Africa are better than they are in America, are you?"

    Noah responded: "No, no, no, I'm not saying that – you guys are saying that." A soundbite followed of left-wing New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof ranting on CNN:

    The United States right now incarcerates more African-Americans, as a percentage, than Apartheid South Africa did. The race gap in wealth in the United States right now between the median white family and the median black family is eighteen-fold, that's greater than the black-white wealth gap was in Apartheid South Africa.

     

    Noah concluded: "Here's the amazing part, for South Africa to achieve that kind of black-white wealth gap, we had to construct an entire Apartheid state, denying blacks the right to vote or own property. But you, you did it without even trying. We trained for decades and you just waltzed in and won the gold medal."

    Even the response from Stewart's reliably liberal audience was muted as Noah made the incendiary racial jokes.

    With Nightly Show host Larry Wilmore having already taken over Stephen Colbert's time slot, the addition of Noah may give Comedy Central a full hour of late-night race-baiting.

     

    “his stridently anti-white views”
    Seems like you have the same problem with whites in jokes as that Phoebe chick with Jews. Can’t really see your anti-white point in the quote.

    But what I noticed quoted in the quote:

    The United States right now incarcerates more African-Americans, as a percentage, than Apartheid South Africa did.

    How many African-Americans were jailed in South Africa? Not many, I suppose. African-Africans (or whatever the PC term might be) on the other hand…

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    As a percentage of blacks ? ...

    I'm not sure housing that many blacks in South African prisons would be logistically possible! ...Sounds like an biting little quip - but not a very useful comparison.
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  44. Svigor says:

    I’m just glad someone brought these “ANTI-SEMITIC!!! ATROCITIES!!!” before my eyes, so I didn’t have to go delving into the bowels of twitter to see what all the fuss is about.

    This flap reads a lot like Semitic Neo-Puritan prudes who are delighted they overthrew the Old Aryan Puritan Order with promises of freedom and libertine excess…so they could take over and show the world what real arrogant intolerance and prudery looks like.

    “Don’t you know that Jews are the Chosen of G-d, and none shall mock Them lest they mock G-d?” That’s what this sounds like.

    Why comparing Jewish women’s apparent respect for their virtue to the world’s greatest soccer player’s respect for competition rather than for fakery is supposed to be anti-Semitic is unexplained.

    Jewish prudes are up in arms over Jewish women being called prudes. Successful people being mocked as successful. Oy vey, ze humanity!

    But this new wave of anti-Semitism has left Jewish nerves raw and frayed.

    Here, “anti-Semitism” is standing in for stuff like “rare criticism of monumental Jewish hypocrisy,” “getting back a small fraction of what you’ve been dishing out for more than half a century,” “having a pea somewhere under the 14th mattress and we can’t find it,” etc.

    Call us tribal, if you want

    Nooo, I wouldn’t call you that. Well, I would, but I think “racist” has more heft at this point, and it’s pretty accurate.

    But how exactly does one call out casual anti-Semitism in comedy? It can be tough to sort out, in part because it’s often unclear—even to a Jewish audience attuned to such things—if the joke-teller is Jewish. Lena Dunham’s half-Jewish heritage was not immediately obvious to all; that Noah is a quarter Jewish has gone largely unnoticed. Because Jews are only a quasi-visible minority, if that, it’s largely at the artist’s discretion if she is going to self-present as a Jewish performer. Humor that might not seem offensive coming from one comedian of Jewish background might seem so from another—especially if that comedian is a mixed-race South African.

    You know, a Nuremberg Law of Comedy would probably sort out this thorny issue.

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  45. So, Steve, politics aside, do you think Noah is a talented comedian?

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    Haven't seen him.
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  46. Svigor says:

    Always remember: if you freak out like a psychopath every time someone says something mildly critical about you, you’ll teach the lesser peons around you to never, ever say anything seriously critical about you.

    I know a guy who’s like this. It’s hard to exaggerate how bad he is. In fact, he gets his hackles up when you aren’t criticizing him, at all; he just misinterprets totally innocent stuff as subtle digs, in a way that mystifies people as to how he got there with it at all. This way, people get the message that actual criticism would really send him off the deep end. Basically, he finds ways to “defensively” employ aggression against everyone around him just often enough to put everyone on the defensive around him. And nobody dares to actually criticize him, because they know it’ll cost them a psycho episode.

    Of course, over time he’s driven everyone away. Why bother?

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  47. This whole controversy is ridiculous. Jews don’t get near the bashing from others that they dish out.

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  48. donut says:

    Here’s a good one from Deadwood :

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  49. at the Charlie sheen roast four or so years ago on Comedy Central MacFarlane said something along the lines of “Charlie Sheen let this be a lesson to you- you can do mountains of coke and hookers, throw lamps at women, threaten people with guns but whatever you do don’t call your Jewish boss by his real Jewish name.” I’m still kind of amazed he didn’t get his wings clipped for that.

    That said those Comedy Central roast really are the last vestige of the “carnivalesque” left in American culture. It’s amazing what people get away with during them. Although it’s kind of interesting the last few roasts on Comedy Central have definitely included higher profile celebrities than the earlier roasts and the jokes while equally rude are more PC so maybe there has been some behind the scenes pushback. They definitely stopped roasting black celebrities after the Flavor Flav one.

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  50. Anonycat says:

    It’s funny how even Trevor Noah’s name is reminiscent of the half-black, half-Jewish kid Meadow briefly dated on the Sopranos, Noah Tannenbaum. That episode where Tony confronts him had a lot of funny and perceptive things to say about modern privileged mulattos.

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    How about Trayvon Noah?
    , @Prokop
    "Jamal Ginsberg" I think Tony called him. Still cracks me up.
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  52. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @P
    "Family Guy" somehow keeps getting away with pretty outrageous jokes about Jews. Take a look at this one, for example. I'm sure they have plenty of Jewish writers and producers, but the show is strongly identified with Seth MacFarlane so there have been some rumblings.

    Family Guy gets away with a lot more than a live action show would. E.g., this “Are you smarter than a Hispanic Maid” segment: http://youtu.be/zgD5AlA0hd4

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEbUdt3u7ak
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  53. “embodying the greatest fear of ethnocentric liberal Jews: somebody who is both black and Jewish genetically, but isn’t obviously either loyal or frightened.”

    This is traditionally called,….an individual. Something which historically has been anathema toward Judaism as a whole. Individualism is certainly more accepted in Christianity in general and Protestantism in particular. Individuals are a threat to the community because:
    1. They can’t be controlled by the community.
    2. No one knows for certain how the individual will side on the main issues that the community deigns to be of utmost importance.

    “Is the important thing to compete,….Or is the important thing to win?”

    Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing.

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  54. @Harry Baldwin
    Just as the furor over Lena Dunham’s “Dog or Jewish Boyfriend?” jokes was winding down. . .

    You have to laugh at something being described as a "furor" when 95% of Americans never heard about it or couldn't care less. The proverbial tempest in a teapot.

    The heyday of Jewish comedians coincided with a sense that the Jews had, in fact, arrived. Jews felt safe.

    I don't recall this heyday when Jewish comedians didn't frequently reference their Jewish paranoia. Was it in 1977, when Woody Allen made Annie Hall? It contained numerous references to his paranoia, as when, for example, he insisted that someone had asked him, "Jew eat yet?"

    Lena Dunham’s half-Jewish heritage was not immediately obvious to all

    True, I assumed she was 100% Jewish.

    BTW, the "offensive" jokes quoted from Modern Family strike me as funny and benign.

    True. As ca. 95% of Americans really don’t care about these petty community squabbles, how about if these media outlets stop wasting precious time and trees and start writing and highlighting issues of which the majority of Americans do care about, such as say….illegal immigration?

    Something that actually affects tens of millions of citizens rather than at most a few thousand positions in NY; LA?

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  55. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    This kerfuffle reminds me of the Seinfeld episode in which Jerry’s dentist, Tim Whatley, converts to Judaism and starts telling Jewish jokes.

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  56. In America, the 97% of the population who aren’t either Jews or anti-Semites are pretty much intellectually disarmed by crimestop.

    I don’t think that’s where the problem lies. It’s not that the typical white gentile American is intimidated into going along with Jews, it’s that he is eagerly, willingly, zealoulsy pro-Jewish in a way which he would never feel comfortable being pro-his-own-group. A lot of these people are more fanatically pro-Jewish than is the typical American Jew! It’s a strange psychological trait and one which has never received the exploration it deserves.

    In spite of what some commenters on this blog seem to believe, this sort of thinking is not limited to “evangelical Christians”.

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  57. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    ADL-approved Jewish jokes:

    1. How do you drive a Jew crazy?

    Put him in a round room and tell him that in a corner is a pure-as-snow black guy who needs saving from the KKK.

    2. How was the Grand Canyon formed?

    Someone told a Jewish woman with a shovel that Haven Monahan & his goy pals are there raping a woman.

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  58. Clyde says:

    Trevor, being one of the coolest British names, will also provide Noah with more insulation for telling non-PC jokes. Driving home that he is not American, thus immune from criticism and is an all around suave and OK guy. The Comedy Channel mavens want more leeway to tell non-PC jokes and Trevor The Brit will allow this. Non-PC jokes are funnier and everyone knows it, even as they keep their mouths shut.
    Yes, I know he is South African, from the land of lib icon Nelson Mandela, so how can boundary pusher Trevor possibly be a racist, homophobe, misogynist and anti-Semite?

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    Trevor, being one of the coolest British names…
     
    Trevor was one of the twins on TV's Please Don't Eat the Daisies. How American can you get?

    But I thought it was considered rather prole at home (well, not at home home, i.e., Wales), kind of like Brian.

    Nobody on this side of the Pond got the joke behind Life of Brian. That name was still "cool" here.
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  59. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “And who—apart from Jews and their most committed allies, that is—is even going to wonder whether a show’s writers are Jewish? Anti-Semites! And they’re hardly going to object to Jews-and-money humor.”

    This is ridiculous. I thought that we were taught in English class, when we were growing up, that knowing something about the author and the context in which a book, poem, etc. is written helps one to better understand and appreciate the written material.

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  60. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:
    @syonredux

    Just as the furor over Lena Dunham’s “Dog or Jewish Boyfriend?”
     
    Somehow that particular tempest in a PC teapot managed to pass me by.

    “Just as the furor over Lena Dunham’s ‘Dog or Jewish Boyfriend?’”

    That was just in the cute category, as her joke about penny-pinching Jews.

    That is so old and harmless since Jews are no longer penny-pinchers.
    The notion of the penny-pinching Jew implies that Jews haven’t yet made it and are saving every penny.
    A real stinging and relevant Jewish joke today wouldn’t be about Jews pinching pennies but about Jews throwing massive amounts of money to buy up politicians and other people in positions of influence. Even this Trevor Noah controversy is all about how Jews should throw their money around. Is it a lucrative deal to offer millions to this comedian who goes by South African cultural rules and isn’t properly sensitive about ‘American’ rules that have been rejiggered by Jews.

    Indeed, Sheldon Adelson and Haim Saban would be far less dangerous if they pinched pennies than if they threw hundreds of millions at politicians who grovel at their feet.

    Jordan Belfort and Benrie Madoff were NOT penny-pinching Jews but Jews who threw their money around, and they turned out to be far more dangerous than penny pinching Jewish pawnbrokers of old.

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  61. The Z Blog says: • Website

    I’m thinking there’s something else going on here. Yeah, the specter of you know who is causing shivers amongst some in the cult of modern liberalism. There may be some of that here. I think the bigger issue is that the Daily Show had been a cult of personality for a long long time. It was not about telling jokes. It was about consecration.

    This feels like every drama surrounding a church getting a new priest or minister. A good portion of the congregation is happy the old jerk is gone and they welcome the new guy. Another portion hated to see the old guy leave and the new guy is the jerk.

    There’s also provincialism at work. The core audience for this show lives in a hothouse with one-way glass. You can see in, but not out. Obama, even with his exotic background, always felt like one of them. He had been in their world. This guy from South Africa is alien and weird. He lacks the non-verbal and esoteric skills to signal his status within the culture of the audience.

    Finally, I suspect that many of the complainers are of an age where they remember when South Africa was evil. It’s still with them. They hear the name and think about those days when they were young and lending their voice to the fight against apartheid by wearing a most excellent t-shirt.

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  62. OT:

    On tonight’s episode of Law & Order: SVU it sounds like Stabler and Benson will be arresting Haven Monohan.

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    Law & Order: SVU plot synopsis (SPOILER ALERT!)


    Benson arrests Haven Monahan, but he walks on a technicality.

    (I watch L&O so you don't have to. )
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  63. Being a WASP, I did not pick up on this when I was growing up in the suburbs in the 1970′s but there was a similar phenomenon with Italian-Americans and the Mafia. For us it was a joke. I remember one Halloween where half the children dressed up with black shirts and white ties and carried around violin cases to store their candy. I now realize how much these people absolutely hated the connection in popular culture. It was only after the Mafia was eclipsed by Cuban coke smugglers and the like that the subject could be even entertained.

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  64. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @P
    "Family Guy" somehow keeps getting away with pretty outrageous jokes about Jews. Take a look at this one, for example. I'm sure they have plenty of Jewish writers and producers, but the show is strongly identified with Seth MacFarlane so there have been some rumblings.

    MacFarlane has also tweeted in support of Noah:

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  65. Maj. Kong says:

    O/T

    Soros: Bail me out, or millions more refugees

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/europe-ditches-ukraine-as-it-seeks-to-save-greece-2015-03-31?page=2

    One plausible scenario is that Putin achieves his optimal objective and Ukraine’s resistance crumbles. Europe would be flooded with refugees — two million seems to be a realistic estimate. Many people expect that would mark the beginning of Cold War II. The likelier outcome is that a victorious Putin would have many friends in Europe, and that the sanctions on Russia would be allowed to lapse

    Because the worst, worst, worst thing possible is that Putin would have FRIENDS, and that means no more nation-breaking…

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  67. Damoj says:

    Steve, there already is such a comedian! Eric Andre is half black and half jewish, but he still succeeds in making the PC crowd uncomfortable for reasons they can’t quite articulate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5uLc0N4r2U

    There are as many misses as hits, but certainly I would have great difficulty being friends anyone who doesn’t find this clip funny.

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  68. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    So, all comedians have to be vetted for Jewish-friendliness?

    Jews bitch about how everyone ‘hysterically’ notices Jewish power, but the more Jews act like this, people can’t help but notice that Jews have the power, indeed like the Roman emperors who went thumbs up or thumbs down on everyone.

    Maybe what we need is something like HULC for humor. House Un-Jewish Laughter Committee.

    “Are you now or have you ever been a member of the anti-Jewish humor organization?”

    Trevor Noah… not quite Dieudonne:

    BUT, it must be a bummer that the safest black comedian that the Liberal Jewish media could find in South Africa–after all, the guy is part-Jewish–is so casual with jokes about Jews.

    In a way, Jews have been blindsided by their own bullying arrogance and narcissism. They suffer from Kim Jong Un Syndrome. We know, indeed every honest person knows, that Kim Jong Un is a big fat ugly dumbass who looks funny as hell.

    But it’s an absolute No-No in North Korea to even suggest that he is anything less than a god.

    With all such adulation 24/7, the dumbass really thinks he is the smartest, most handsome, and most awesome person on earth. And if anyone were to suggest, even faintly, that Kim is anything less than superman would make the entire system go after him as a heretic who must be punished.

    US is a liberal democracy by law, but Jews have gained such total domination in government finance, entertainment, and media that they impose and run the Narrative like communist governments used to do. Everyone in the US knows he or she is finished if he or she displeases Jews. The ONLY thing Rick Sanchez said is Jews made it in the US, they are rich, and very prominent in the media. That was enough for him to be blacklisted worse than the Hollywood Ten (who were Stalinists and real scumbags).

    Because everyone fears Jews, no one says anything that might be construed as insulting to Jews. Only Jews can say some funny or biting stuff about Jews, but Jews take pride in this as example of their own self-criticism and ability to laugh at themselves. But it is monopolized ONLY by Jews. It’s like a dictator of a nation making a joke about himself to show that he’s an fun easy-going guy but then forbids ANYONE ELSE to do likewise. So, even his self-mockery is a form of narcissism. “I’m not only so very great but sort of humble and don’t take myself too seriously.” It’s like Mao who forced all Chinese to worship him as a god but then told Edgar Snow with false modesty that he’s irritated by all the cult of personality and only wishes to be remembered as a teacher, ‘a school teacher’ at that. Uhhhhhhh.

    [MORE]

    Just like Stalin and Kim and Castro, Jews have gotten so used to an environment that never utters anything critical about them and instead praises everything about Jews 24/7 that they are genuinely surprised when it turns out that not all the people around the world are crazy about them.
    Gee, how could that be when American Jews grow up with glowing praise from everyone, every group, every famous person, etc? If Dems and Repubs have ONE thing in common, it is praise for Jews and support for Israel. Even the Dems who didn’t attend Netanhayu’s speech was protesting against breach of protocol, not against Israeli policy against Palestinians, whom they don’t care about at all.

    It’s about time Jew woke up and realize that they’ve created an artificial bubble for themselves, one that is hard to sustain because of the power of the internet. Especially because Jews have so much power and privilege, it’ s looking more and more like bad form for them to act like they are champions of equality. It’s like commie leaders who live in luxury pretending that they are ‘one of the people’.

    Also, Jews are losing friends on both the Left and Right. The Left, being defined more and more by Rise of Color, increasingly sees Jews not only as part of ‘white privilege’ but as THE FACE of white privilege.
    As for the Right, many of them outside Conservative Inc. are beginning to notice that Jews have pulled a dirty trick on them. It’s no wonder Ann Coulter was not invited to CPAC. She wrote some columns about how Jewish Republicans support border patrol in Israel but call for open borders here. Among conservatives, GOP’s star is fading fast. Many loathe it as the den of Neocons.

    But because Jews control the media and have bought the loyalty of gentile elites who ONLY TELL JEWS WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR, Jews have come under the impression that everyone loves them and that’s that. They’ve become like Parker Posey in DAZED AND CONFUSED who expects all the girls to love and respect her despite her total bitchiness.

    AIR-RAID, freshman!

    The fact is many Jews are NOT lovable. Sure, there are many nice Jews and all that, but there are also many nasty and vicious Jews, and it’s something people talk about all the time. Just like it’s un-PC to say negative things about blacks but people say that stuff all the time on a person-to-person basis, a lot of people say negative things about Jews because they’ve had bad experiences with Jews in childhood, in business, relations, and etc.
    I wonder what Rick Sanchez has been saying about Jews with his Cuban friends who surely sympathize with him. I’ve met Hispanics who, on the subject of Jews, say, “they own everything.”

    An Asian-American girl used to tell us how she went a school full of Jews and they used to make her feel miserable and even threw food at her. Of course, most Jews don’t act like this, but there are plenty of Jews who are a-holes(as with any other people).
    The media can show the good and bad of whites, browns, yellows, and even blacks sometimes.
    But when it comes to Jews, it’s friendly, friendly, friendly, worshipful, worshipful, worshipful. And even when someone like Bernie Madoff comes along, the main narrative is (1) Oh, his victims were mostly Jewish and (2) we must be very careful about criticizing him because we don’t want to be ‘antisemitic’, do we? So, let us use his case as teachable moment to love Jews ever more!!! Gag.

    Because of Jewish control of media, suppression of criticism of Jews, and self-censorship among prominent gentiles in media and entertainment, Jews have become totally ignorant of how a lot of people really feel about Jews.
    It’s like the Shah of Iran and Ceausescu lived in a bubble and only listened to stuff about how the people loved and revered them and simply couldn’t believe that people, indeed anyone, could have anything but the nicest and most glowing feelings about them.

    Jews are smart but it goes to show what vanity and narcissism could do to a people. Jews only need to look in the mirror to understand why many people don’t like Jews. ‘
    If Jews could be so filled with hatred and contempt for Christians, Arabs, Russians, and etc. why is it so shocking that gentiles might not like Jews? If Jewish animus and hostility toward others are understandable, why isn’t the reverse understandable?

    It’s because Jews have pushed the Narrative where they are always right, always the poor victims, always the wronged party, and always justified. And because Jews have imposed this Narrative on the West and because the craven West has swallowed it(or pretends to at least in front of Jews), Jews have really come to think it’s a mental sickness for anyone to have negative feelings about Jews. Even when Jews admit that the Nakba happened, they still insist that Palestinians should suck it up and the rest of us should just mindlessly wave the Israeli flag.

    What Andrew Sarris said of Bosley Crowther applies to Jews. Sarris said Crowther is not an evil man. The problem was power. Because of Crowther’s immense power, he could make or break the success of so many movies, so many movies.

    Likewise, Jews aren’t intrinsically more evil than any other people. Arabs, Chinese, Russians, Iranians, Africans, Hindus, Mexicans, are all full of shit. Many of them are nasty vicious shitters.
    But nastiness without power is just nastiness, and we can call out on it.
    But nastiness with power promotes itself as wonderfulness and the rest of us are forced to agree.
    Look at the ‘gay agenda’. Many people find it sick and gross, but most conservatives remain silent or even pretend to praise it because it’s a form of nastiness supported by and enforced by the most powerful power in the US: Jewish power.

    So, even though US is a liberal democracy in principle, much of the practice is oligarchic and repressive, and Jews have become the overlord race. And they are shocked, really really shocked, to come upon evidence that the entire world isn’t enthralled with them.

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    Most people can't tell Jewish and gentile whites apart. To the average American, Jews are just regular white people. Americans don't distinguish them apart at all.
    The only people who pay close attention to Jews are Muslims (because they hate Jews) and elites/elite-wannabes (because they aspire to join our heavily Jewish over class).

    Christian conservatives criticize Hollywood, feminism, and the gay/trans movement while also being fanatically pro-Israel and philosemitic. They see no apparent contradiction. Neither do liberals who mock neoconservatives but also embrace the feminist and gay movements.
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  69. There’s enough cracking-up to go around lately, it seems. Turns out it was a dumb idea encouraging the underemployed activists of the land to theatrically mine their own emotions for future PBS documentary moments; only so far giving birth to a loose nation with the indignant battle cry #OurBreakfastMatters as life increasingly resembles a Seinfeld episode:

    http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2015/04/01/owner-it-is-a-very-dangerous-thing-what-blackbrunchatl-protesters-are-doing/

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  70. @International Jew
    So, Steve, politics aside, do you think Noah is a talented comedian?

    Haven’t seen him.

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    From the article:

    But Holland told the Washington Post on Wednesday afternoon that Stokes is a suspect in the burglary, which involved an 81-year old woman. The suspect allegedly broke into the woman’s home and fired a a gun at her but nothing was stolen from the home.

    “She was an 81 years old inside the house and he surprised her and I think she surprised him too because he shot at her,” Holland said.


    The nerve of that 81 year old lady, surprising a poor boy like him. He was just defending himself.
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  72. Art says:

    Perhaps we should stop pussyfooting around the truth. Jews are starting to read the handwriting on the wall. Jews should be hyper sensitive about negative speech towards them, because their tribal Zionism and oligarch bankers are doing America and the West a great disservice.

    They are repeating the same pattern of activity that got them in trouble in Germany in the last century and the many centuries before that. They tribally conspire to take over their host culture, hurting that culture. Clearly they have accomplish that in America – clearly we are currently beginning to live that hurt – and sadly for all, it is just starting.

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  73. @Anonycat
    It's funny how even Trevor Noah's name is reminiscent of the half-black, half-Jewish kid Meadow briefly dated on the Sopranos, Noah Tannenbaum. That episode where Tony confronts him had a lot of funny and perceptive things to say about modern privileged mulattos.

    How about Trayvon Noah?

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  74. syonredux says: • Website
    @Priss Factor
    Much of the yammering on this issue is baloney.

    Lena Dunham is Jewish. She looks Jewish. Howard Stern and Bill Maher are Jewish too.
    But then the Ashkenazis began as half-Jews anyways as the fathers were Jewish and mothers were Euro.
    The bitching about Dunham makes little sense since it was the Jewish side of her that was being irreverent. It's like Pauline Kael and Woody Allen and Mel Brooks would crack jokes about Jews too.

    The fact is in America, almost everyone is deathly afraid to say anything to offend Jews.
    So, this is a bogus controversy. As for Europe, anti-Jewish remarks are illegal there.

    So, this issue is REALLY about Jews and Africans(esp South Africans) and indirectly Palestinians.

    Jewish narrative says Jews and blacks are allies in the US and in Africa.

    Jews supported the Civil Rights.

    But blacks don't see it that way. They have many stories of bad Jewish merchants, bad Jewish agents, bad Jewish managers, etc. They have lots of stories of Jewish exploitation of blacks. Blacks are also envious of Jewish success. Blacks suspect lots of Jews are like Donald Sterling in private.
    The worst relations for Jews in the US have been with blacks.
    And yet the Jewish-black alliance is symbolically very important because it milks 'white guilt' and associates holocaust with slavery(never mind southern Jews were slavers too). It's also profitable as Jews make big bucks off black music and sports.

    What Jews are really afraid of is more BLACKS saying 'anti-Jewish' things. What if blacks don't play the anti-white-privilege game and point to Jews as the uber-privileged?
    Jews have been hiding their wealth by associating themselves with poor blacks. If blacks say Jews are the enemy, big trouble for Jews in terms of moral symbolism.
    So, the Jewish narrative and black narrative are at odds.
    That is why Jews were nuts about Obama, a mulatto whom they built from scratch. All black politicians that came out of the black community have been disastrous for Jews.
    (I wonder if blacks are offended by this brouhaha over Trevor.)

    This Trevor Noah seems like the Obama of comedy. And yet his jokes suggest different standards in Africa, esp South Africa.

    SA is NOT politically correct on the matter of Jews.

    Jews push the narrative that 'anti-racist' Jews worked with the world to end apartheid in Africa. Most Americans believe this.
    So, even as white Republicans grovel and apologize that Reagan had supported the Boer Republic, Jews beam with pride that they supported Mandela.

    Problem is most blacks in South Africa don't see it that way. Their hero Mandela was allies with Arafat and PLO. Israel was the #1 ally of the Boer Republic. Blacks in South Africa totally sympathize with Palestinians ans see Jews as diamond merchants.
    Sure, some commie and liberal Jews did work to end apartheid, but many ran off to apartheid Israel when things got hot in South Africa.

    The preferred Jewish narrative on South Africa and the black South African narrative on Jews are very different. To blacks, Jews are Zionist 'racists' who oppress Palestinians and aided the apartheid Boer Republic.

    Because Trevor is urbane, mulatto, and part-Jewish, he seemed like a shining hope supporting the Jewish narrative of South Africa as the wonderful example of diversity. In truth, it is one of the most anti-Jewish nations in the world even though its top politicians are savvy enough not to offend Jews.

    As Jews are so rich, their victimism can only be perpetuated through association, and the most valuable asset is with blacks cuz blackness is associated with 'white guilt' and white addiction in sports and music.

    What is upsetting to Jews is the revelation that anti-Jewishness is so casual in South Africa that even part-Jewish Trevor routinely makes them to earn street cred as a negro than as a Jew.

    But blacks don’t see it that way. They have many stories of bad Jewish merchants, bad Jewish agents, bad Jewish managers, etc. They have lots of stories of Jewish exploitation of blacks. Blacks are also envious of Jewish success.

    Black Americans have a big chip on their shoulders.Slavery in America didn’t end via a massive, Haitian-style slave revolt .No, it ended thanks to the efforts of WASP abolitionists. Jim Crow didn’t end because Blacks destroyed the system.No, it ended because liberal White Jews bankrolled the NAACP and White Christian and Jewish politicians decided that Jim Crow was bad for America’s image abroad (why give free propaganda points away to the Soviets?).

    Deep down, Blacks know that what they have today is due to White people. That breeds resentment.

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  75. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    How to get rich.

    Make and market transgender dolls whose sex organs can be taken on and off.
    It’ll be like GI Joe dolls that can be fitted with fake vaginas and dress and bikini.

    Lib parents will buy it for X-mas.

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  76. el topo [AKA "darryl revok"] says:

    “But perhaps the great conflict of the future will be between full Jews and part Jews?”

    It sounds weird but there is something to this. As a mischling, I have recently felt increasingly alienated from full-Jews, especially East Coast liberal Jews who are stuck in their particular paradigm (I am from the Midwest and was raised by an old-style neocon father). Often these types of Jews don’t even recognize me as Jewish because they instinctively sense that I am not one of “them”.

    I recently tried to gently nudge an East Coast liberal Jewish acquaintance in an iStevey direction with regard to the Jews and he bristled and wondered aloud half-jokingly whether I, as a gentile anti-semite, should be talking to him, a Jew.

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  77. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    Get Howard Schultz for Daily Show.

    ‘Race Together’ was the funniest joke in the past 10 yrs.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/04/lew-rockwell/race-together/

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  78. @bossel
    "his stridently anti-white views"
    Seems like you have the same problem with whites in jokes as that Phoebe chick with Jews. Can't really see your anti-white point in the quote.

    But what I noticed quoted in the quote:

    The United States right now incarcerates more African-Americans, as a percentage, than Apartheid South Africa did.
     
    How many African-Americans were jailed in South Africa? African-Africans (or whatever the PC term might be) on the other hand...

    Seems like you have the same problem with whites in jokes as that Phoebe chick with Jews. Can’t really see your anti-white point in the quote.

    As far as I’m concerned, anyone still on Michael Brown’s side is anti-white. I can’t see any other rationale for that position. The same goes for those who think we have too many blacks in prison in the US–obviously, we have too few, since the unincarcerated ones continue to account for such a disproportionate amount of violent crime.

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  79. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/01/educators-convicted-atlan_n_6987044.html

    But what’ s the difference between this(affirmative grading) and affirmative action? Same principle.

    Is Aff-action okay because it is INSTITUTIONALIZED Cheating?

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  80. Prokop says:
    @Anonycat
    It's funny how even Trevor Noah's name is reminiscent of the half-black, half-Jewish kid Meadow briefly dated on the Sopranos, Noah Tannenbaum. That episode where Tony confronts him had a lot of funny and perceptive things to say about modern privileged mulattos.

    “Jamal Ginsberg” I think Tony called him. Still cracks me up.

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  81. Grumpy says:

    I’m waiting for the liberal environmentalist crack-up. Amidst all the panic about water shortages in California, you never hear anyone mention the word immigration.

    Of course, it’s forbidden to state the obvious.

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  82. Jack D says:

    One thing I can say in Trevor Noah’s favor is that he is not afraid of smiling. Most American blacks try to look angry and resentful at all times. They are afraid that if they smile at you that they will be considered Uncle Toms.

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  83. @Erik L
    I understand that this sensitivity is incomprehensible to someone who was born after, say, 1980. The Jews pretty much run everything. There's barely any antisemitism in the US. The holocaust was a long time ago and there is no chance that kind of thing will ever happen again.

    But, to my father's generation the holocaust wasn't a long time ago. And, the history of the Jews (as believed by the Jews whatever the revisionist might or might not say) is a series of stories of being accepted in a country for a while, then the locals get mad about the banking and stuff and then kicking them out.

    All this banking, running industries from the shadows, ethnocentricity, looking after their own at the expense of the "host" country is the rationale behind the holocaust.

    So, yes, I don't agree that any group is above making fun of. Just understand why these particular jokes still make Jews nervous in a way that, for example, jokes about Irish drinking would not (make the Irish nervous, obviously)

    It always astounds me that Jews never seem to make the connection between their behaviour (such as that you refer to) and an eventual explosion of goyim resentment, which is always portrayed as resulting from mindless bigotry.

    You’d image that absorbing this vital lesson would represent a major step forward for their ethnic evolutionary strategy. As well as a God-send for the rest of us!

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    They make the connection very well , hence the Shock and Awe response to anyone with the temerity to comment on it .
    , @Erik L
    I take it your point is that Jews deserve the treatment they receive. I suppose since it is not your ethnic group you are fine punishing all Jews for the perceived behavior of a minority of Jews. I guess you're lucky no one is for collective punishment for your group.
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  84. @Foreign Expert
    SPEAKING POWER TO TRUTH. I'm gonna use that.

    Serving comment beat me to it.

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  85. SPmoore8 says:

    Lena Dunham’s “Dog or Jewish Boyfriend?” is really an unfunny no brainer. Who circumcises their dog?

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  86. EriK says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Family Guy gets away with a lot more than a live action show would. E.g., this "Are you smarter than a Hispanic Maid" segment: http://youtu.be/zgD5AlA0hd4

    They also get away with fat chick jokes

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  87. @Damoj
    Steve, there already is such a comedian! Eric Andre is half black and half jewish, but he still succeeds in making the PC crowd uncomfortable for reasons they can't quite articulate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5uLc0N4r2U

    There are as many misses as hits, but certainly I would have great difficulty being friends anyone who doesn't find this clip funny.

    Andre was on apt 23 by the way.

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  88. keypusher says:
    @Gunnar von Cowtown
    Steve,

    I love ya and you're my favorite pundit, so with all due respect..... I hate to interrupt today's OCD-like analysis of all things pop culture/Jewish, but are you ever going to address the World War G equivalent of Normandy going on in Indiana right now? Outside of Twitter and Pat Buchanan, no one on the dissident right is even talking about it. What gives, man? Outrage fatigue? It's just The Flyover? Graciously accepting defeat? The eerie silence is unnerving.

    Are you kidding? The Culture Wars are like Jackson v. Cherokees at this point, if not McDonalds v. cows. What we’re seeing in Indiana is just the latest unconditional surrender.

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  89. Marty [AKA "coot veal or cot deal"] says:
    @Scotty G. Vito
    Hey, don't feel bad-- I can't figure out why the hell everyone started talking about Indiana all of a sudden. Was there an outbreak of mutant corn creatures? Did either or both of the Hemsworth brothers sign onto a remake of "Hoosiers"

    Yesterday on the golf course, my playing partner was a 80+ Ital with many grandkids who speaks freely about his nightmare year teaching in a mostly black high school. Yet he asks me why Indiana has to cause so much “consternation” with this legislation. Nice guy, so had to bite my tongue.

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    Years ago, a coworker of mine and I went to some Italian fraternal organization charitable dinner in NJ. I forget the organization, but I think we went as a favor to a client who was a member. You paid $100 or whatever for a ticket, and these old Italian ladies served you course after course of delicious food accompanied by plenty of booze. No women guests, and no NAMs or even AMs. Mostly blue collar Italian guys in their 30s, 40s, and 50s, some of whom, judging by the conversation, were cops. I don't think I ever heard so many racial epithets (mostly directed at blacks) in one sitting.
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  90. Lugash says:
    @Milo Minderbinder
    OT -

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/04/01/atlanta-teen-who-received-controversial-heart-transplant-dies-in-chase-with-police/?tid=pm_national_pop_b

    From the article:

    But Holland told the Washington Post on Wednesday afternoon that Stokes is a suspect in the burglary, which involved an 81-year old woman. The suspect allegedly broke into the woman’s home and fired a a gun at her but nothing was stolen from the home.

    “She was an 81 years old inside the house and he surprised her and I think she surprised him too because he shot at her,” Holland said.

    The nerve of that 81 year old lady, surprising a poor boy like him. He was just defending himself.

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  91. whorefinder says: • Website

    Steve, you’re living in Southern California and are more knowledgeable than the average person about the industry. Can you not see a p.r. stunt like this as a p.r. stunt from a mile away?

    This couldn’t scream “false controversy to gin up this token black’s Q rating” more than if he had a sex tape “leaked.”

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  92. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factor"] says:

    Gentrification in a nutshell.

    One whitey takes a Negro and pushes him on another whitey and then takes credit for racial integration.

    So, the first whitey is without the Negro but takes full credit for integration because he forced the second whitey to integrate with the Negro.
    If the second whitey complains, he is reviled as a ‘racist’.

    So, ‘progressivism’ is the art of pushing policies that affects others in practice but for which you can take full moral credit in theory.

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/04/lew-rockwell/race-together/

    “Over at EPJ, Bob Wenzel pointed out the not-exactly-unexpected finding that Schultz lives in a part of Seattle called Madison Park, whose 1,538 residents include a mere 80 black people. And in fact, Schultz lives in an especially exclusive part of Madison Park: a nine-house gated community that doesn’t exactly ‘look like America,’ if I may borrow a phrase.”

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  93. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Erik L
    I understand that this sensitivity is incomprehensible to someone who was born after, say, 1980. The Jews pretty much run everything. There's barely any antisemitism in the US. The holocaust was a long time ago and there is no chance that kind of thing will ever happen again.

    But, to my father's generation the holocaust wasn't a long time ago. And, the history of the Jews (as believed by the Jews whatever the revisionist might or might not say) is a series of stories of being accepted in a country for a while, then the locals get mad about the banking and stuff and then kicking them out.

    All this banking, running industries from the shadows, ethnocentricity, looking after their own at the expense of the "host" country is the rationale behind the holocaust.

    So, yes, I don't agree that any group is above making fun of. Just understand why these particular jokes still make Jews nervous in a way that, for example, jokes about Irish drinking would not (make the Irish nervous, obviously)

    Most of the Jews killed by the Nazis had nothing to do with banking at all. What % of Polish Jews do you think were bankers? And prominent German Jewish bankers and industrialists like Rathenau or the Warburgs were highly assimilated patriots.

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  94. “Jewish comedians have been joking about their people’s mania for expensive German cars…”

    A good friend of mine who always drives Benzes and happens to be Jewish had a brand new big one treat him like crap. The adjustable suspension would suddenly drop and the car would just hunker down like it didn’t want to go anywhere.

    After numerous trips to the dealer, my friend told me an old joke: Mercedes makes three kinds of cars: one kind for the Germans, another kind for the Americans…and a third kind that they sell to the Jews.

    Nevertheless, he still buys them.

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  95. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Priss Factor
    Much of the yammering on this issue is baloney.

    Lena Dunham is Jewish. She looks Jewish. Howard Stern and Bill Maher are Jewish too.
    But then the Ashkenazis began as half-Jews anyways as the fathers were Jewish and mothers were Euro.
    The bitching about Dunham makes little sense since it was the Jewish side of her that was being irreverent. It's like Pauline Kael and Woody Allen and Mel Brooks would crack jokes about Jews too.

    The fact is in America, almost everyone is deathly afraid to say anything to offend Jews.
    So, this is a bogus controversy. As for Europe, anti-Jewish remarks are illegal there.

    So, this issue is REALLY about Jews and Africans(esp South Africans) and indirectly Palestinians.

    Jewish narrative says Jews and blacks are allies in the US and in Africa.

    Jews supported the Civil Rights.

    But blacks don't see it that way. They have many stories of bad Jewish merchants, bad Jewish agents, bad Jewish managers, etc. They have lots of stories of Jewish exploitation of blacks. Blacks are also envious of Jewish success. Blacks suspect lots of Jews are like Donald Sterling in private.
    The worst relations for Jews in the US have been with blacks.
    And yet the Jewish-black alliance is symbolically very important because it milks 'white guilt' and associates holocaust with slavery(never mind southern Jews were slavers too). It's also profitable as Jews make big bucks off black music and sports.

    What Jews are really afraid of is more BLACKS saying 'anti-Jewish' things. What if blacks don't play the anti-white-privilege game and point to Jews as the uber-privileged?
    Jews have been hiding their wealth by associating themselves with poor blacks. If blacks say Jews are the enemy, big trouble for Jews in terms of moral symbolism.
    So, the Jewish narrative and black narrative are at odds.
    That is why Jews were nuts about Obama, a mulatto whom they built from scratch. All black politicians that came out of the black community have been disastrous for Jews.
    (I wonder if blacks are offended by this brouhaha over Trevor.)

    This Trevor Noah seems like the Obama of comedy. And yet his jokes suggest different standards in Africa, esp South Africa.

    SA is NOT politically correct on the matter of Jews.

    Jews push the narrative that 'anti-racist' Jews worked with the world to end apartheid in Africa. Most Americans believe this.
    So, even as white Republicans grovel and apologize that Reagan had supported the Boer Republic, Jews beam with pride that they supported Mandela.

    Problem is most blacks in South Africa don't see it that way. Their hero Mandela was allies with Arafat and PLO. Israel was the #1 ally of the Boer Republic. Blacks in South Africa totally sympathize with Palestinians ans see Jews as diamond merchants.
    Sure, some commie and liberal Jews did work to end apartheid, but many ran off to apartheid Israel when things got hot in South Africa.

    The preferred Jewish narrative on South Africa and the black South African narrative on Jews are very different. To blacks, Jews are Zionist 'racists' who oppress Palestinians and aided the apartheid Boer Republic.

    Because Trevor is urbane, mulatto, and part-Jewish, he seemed like a shining hope supporting the Jewish narrative of South Africa as the wonderful example of diversity. In truth, it is one of the most anti-Jewish nations in the world even though its top politicians are savvy enough not to offend Jews.

    As Jews are so rich, their victimism can only be perpetuated through association, and the most valuable asset is with blacks cuz blackness is associated with 'white guilt' and white addiction in sports and music.

    What is upsetting to Jews is the revelation that anti-Jewishness is so casual in South Africa that even part-Jewish Trevor routinely makes them to earn street cred as a negro than as a Jew.

    Woody Allen and Mel Brooks are funny. They are talented writers as well as performers. Dunham is more of a comic actress. She bombed in that New Yorker piece. I’ve noticed Judd Apatow’s name appear in the writing credits on Girls occasionally, which seems below his pay grade. I’m guessing that’s because Dunham and the writers she hired for her thinly-plotted show had been struggling.

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    Well comedy is a matter of taste so as I said before even Don Rickles had fans . Woody Allen can be good and he can be unwatchable at times . I walked out of Scoop after 15 min. One of his best movies wasn't even a comedy, Match Point . As for Mel Brooks he was funny in the 70's in a Jerry Lewis kind of way but mostly for me he sucks .
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  96. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Marty
    Yesterday on the golf course, my playing partner was a 80+ Ital with many grandkids who speaks freely about his nightmare year teaching in a mostly black high school. Yet he asks me why Indiana has to cause so much "consternation" with this legislation. Nice guy, so had to bite my tongue.

    Years ago, a coworker of mine and I went to some Italian fraternal organization charitable dinner in NJ. I forget the organization, but I think we went as a favor to a client who was a member. You paid $100 or whatever for a ticket, and these old Italian ladies served you course after course of delicious food accompanied by plenty of booze. No women guests, and no NAMs or even AMs. Mostly blue collar Italian guys in their 30s, 40s, and 50s, some of whom, judging by the conversation, were cops. I don’t think I ever heard so many racial epithets (mostly directed at blacks) in one sitting.

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  97. syonredux says: • Website
    @Erik L
    I understand that this sensitivity is incomprehensible to someone who was born after, say, 1980. The Jews pretty much run everything. There's barely any antisemitism in the US. The holocaust was a long time ago and there is no chance that kind of thing will ever happen again.

    But, to my father's generation the holocaust wasn't a long time ago. And, the history of the Jews (as believed by the Jews whatever the revisionist might or might not say) is a series of stories of being accepted in a country for a while, then the locals get mad about the banking and stuff and then kicking them out.

    All this banking, running industries from the shadows, ethnocentricity, looking after their own at the expense of the "host" country is the rationale behind the holocaust.

    So, yes, I don't agree that any group is above making fun of. Just understand why these particular jokes still make Jews nervous in a way that, for example, jokes about Irish drinking would not (make the Irish nervous, obviously)

    The overwhelming majority of the Jews killed by the Nazis lived outside of Germany (in Poland, Russia, Ukraine, etc).The extermination of European Jewry was only one small part of Hitler’s plan to racially remake Eastern Europe:

    The Final Solution, as the Nazis called it, was originally only one of the exterminatory projects to be implemented after a victorious war against the Soviet Union. Had things gone the way that Hitler, Himmler, and Göring expected, German forces would have implemented a Hunger Plan in the Soviet Union in the winter of 1941–1942. As Ukrainian and south Russian agricultural products were diverted to Germany, some 30 million people in Belarus, northern Russia, and Soviet cities were to be starved to death. The Hunger Plan was only a prelude to Generalplan Ost, the colonization plan for the western Soviet Union, which foresaw the elimination of some 50 million people.

    The Germans did manage to carry out policies that bore some resemblance to these plans. They expelled half a million non-Jewish Poles from lands annexed to the Reich. An impatient Himmler ordered a first stage of Generalplan Ost implemented in eastern Poland: ten thousand Polish children were killed and a hundred thousand adults expelled. The Wehrmacht purposefully starved about one million people in the siege of Leningrad, and about a hundred thousand more in planned famines in Ukrainian cities. Some three million captured Soviet soldiers died of starvation or disease in German prisoner-of-war camps. These people were purposefully killed: as with the siege of Leningrad, the knowledge and intention to starve people to death was present. Had the Holocaust not taken place, this would be recalled as the worst war crime in modern history.

    In the guise of anti-partisan actions, the Germans killed perhaps three quarters of a million people, about 350,000 in Belarus alone, and lower but comparable numbers in Poland and Yugoslavia. The Germans killed more than a hundred thousand Poles when suppressing the Warsaw Uprising of 1944. Had the Holocaust not happened, these “reprisals” too would be regarded as some of the greatest war crimes in history. In fact they, like the starvation of Soviet prisoners of war, are scarcely recalled at all beyond the countries directly concerned. German occupation policies killed non-Jewish civilians in other ways as well, for example by hard labor in prison camps. Again: these were chiefly people from Poland or the Soviet Union.

    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2009/jul/16/holocaust-the-ignored-reality/

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  98. donut says:
    @Priss Factor
    Nice and reverent joke about Jews.

    A Catholic, Muslim, and a Rabbi see a old black lady crossing the street.

    The Catholic, being an evil 'racist' privileged white male, knocks her down, punches her in the face, calls her the n-word, and laugh.

    The Muslim, being intolerant and vicious, calls her an infidel and sets her on fire.

    The Rabbi, being so caring and wonderful, calls the ambulance and sits by her side as she recuperates and donates half his wealth to her family.

    Approved by ADL.

    And knows a good lawyer , right ?

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  99. @JohnnyWalker123
    The Laumann sexual survey found that Jewish-Americans report significantly more sexual partners than American Protestants and Catholics. The General Social Survey has found that both Jewish-American men and women report more sexual partners than, respectively, gentile men and women.

    So I don't understand where people get this idea of Jewish female frigidity or the awkward/virgin Jewish male. It seems like when it comes to acquiring sexual partners, Jews do relatively well. They're more "alpha" and "slutty" (depending on your choice of terms) than white gentiles.

    The Laumann sexual survey found that Jewish-Americans report significantly more sexual partners than American Protestants and Catholics. The General Social Survey has found that both Jewish-American men and women report more sexual partners than, respectively, gentile men and women.

    So I don’t understand where people get this idea of Jewish female frigidity or the awkward/virgin Jewish male.

    You think it might come from the same place where people get the idea that George Zimmerman is a White racist murderer?

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  100. Hipster says:

    One of the factors that could be (in my case, is) contributing to formerly liberal Jews becoming less liberal is the very Birthright trip you mentioned.

    You go to Israel and hear people shouting nationalist slogans. You get Israeli facebook friends proudly celebrating Israel and giving you the anti-Palestinian side loud and clear. You see the other side being argued directly live in action by real people you have made friends with.

    One of the whole purposes of the program is to increase American Jewish support for Israel by building links between American Jews and Israelis and obviously, some of that will show American Jews that there is a whole other bellicose nationalist ethnocentric way to be Jewish, very different from Woody Allen and Jon Stewart.

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  101. donut says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Woody Allen and Mel Brooks are funny. They are talented writers as well as performers. Dunham is more of a comic actress. She bombed in that New Yorker piece. I've noticed Judd Apatow's name appear in the writing credits on Girls occasionally, which seems below his pay grade. I'm guessing that's because Dunham and the writers she hired for her thinly-plotted show had been struggling.

    Well comedy is a matter of taste so as I said before even Don Rickles had fans . Woody Allen can be good and he can be unwatchable at times . I walked out of Scoop after 15 min. One of his best movies wasn’t even a comedy, Match Point . As for Mel Brooks he was funny in the 70′s in a Jerry Lewis kind of way but mostly for me he sucks .

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    Agree about Match Point, which was excellent. And yeah, Allen's prolific so not everything he's made is great. But Dunham's not even in the same ballpark with him.

    Mel Brooks is still funny. In his recent one man show, he started telling a World War II anecdote involving pontoon bridges and then interjected, "I can't teach you military engineering now. You'll have to see me after for that."
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  102. HA says:

    Ah, the Chris Hughes TNR re-org comes into full bloom.

    Take that, Wieseltier and Foer! We’ll show you who the real heavy hitters are around here: we’re gonna go after “Modern Family” and Lena Dunham for not being PC enough, and we’re gonna do it with a straight face.

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  103. M_Young says:

    I knew a Croatian guy who grew up in New York City — he said if he and his friends wanted oral pleasure, they’d head out to Long Island and try to pick up suburban Jewish girls. Hearsay, sure, but I haven’t noticed that secular Jewish girls object to much of anything in the sex department, and that’s from my own experience.

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    I've admittedly had limited experience, but all the Jewish girls I've been with have had an aversion to anything sexual involving their mouths. One, even French kissing (gum disease, according to her cousin the dentist. )

    Butts are a totally 'nother thang...
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  104. How much fire would Buddy draw today?

    I was looking for jokes where he used Jews but I am posting this one instead. Buddy’s version of the old “Elephant Trunk transplated as a penis”-You know the punchline already but so what.

    This next link is also Buddy, for Sailer, he opens with Golf jokes then moves on to censorship.

    Part 1 on Carson

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwsvcUDX2Dk&list=RDlwsvcUDX2Dk#t=10

    Part 2 Buddy tells a divorce joke totally in Yiddish accent.

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  105. donut says:
    @Irish Savant
    It always astounds me that Jews never seem to make the connection between their behaviour (such as that you refer to) and an eventual explosion of goyim resentment, which is always portrayed as resulting from mindless bigotry.

    You'd image that absorbing this vital lesson would represent a major step forward for their ethnic evolutionary strategy. As well as a God-send for the rest of us!

    They make the connection very well , hence the Shock and Awe response to anyone with the temerity to comment on it .

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  106. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @donut
    Well comedy is a matter of taste so as I said before even Don Rickles had fans . Woody Allen can be good and he can be unwatchable at times . I walked out of Scoop after 15 min. One of his best movies wasn't even a comedy, Match Point . As for Mel Brooks he was funny in the 70's in a Jerry Lewis kind of way but mostly for me he sucks .

    Agree about Match Point, which was excellent. And yeah, Allen’s prolific so not everything he’s made is great. But Dunham’s not even in the same ballpark with him.

    Mel Brooks is still funny. In his recent one man show, he started telling a World War II anecdote involving pontoon bridges and then interjected, “I can’t teach you military engineering now. You’ll have to see me after for that.”

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    OK , that's good .
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  107. @keypusher
    Steve, for the avoidance of doubt as they say, those jokes really are poorly done (leaving aside their subject matter). And he doesn't get a pass because it's twitter. He got in trouble precisely because those jokes stuck around and could be found right in his twitter feed. Twitter is like anything else, it can be done well or badly. If you're going to do it badly, don't do it.

    Hard to believe he's just an affirmative action hire, though. Standup, like basketball, was an area where I thought affirmative action wasn't needed.

    Maybe this guy is Comedy Central’s Harriet Miers?

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  108. @Harry Baldwin
    Trevor's mild jokes about Jews get noticed but his stridently anti-white views sserve to burnish his resumé. The following is from News Busters:

    On Monday, Comedy Central announced that South African comedian Trevor Noah would be replacing Jon Stewart as host of The Daily Show. To get a feel for Noah's brand of humor, one could simply watch his debut on the fake news show in December of 2014, when he jokingly declared that present-day America had worse race relations than Apartheid South Africa.

    After introducing Noah as the show's newest contributor at the time, Stewart noted: "And I know that you flew in, I guess, yesterday from South Africa." Noah replied: "Yeah, I just flew in and boy are my arms tired....No, no, seriously, I've been holding my arms like this since I got here." He made the completely discredited "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" gesture with his hands and added: "I never thought I'd be more afraid of police in America than in South Africa. It kind of makes me a little nostalgic for the old days back home."

    Later in the exchange, Stewart wondered: "But you're not saying that things in Africa are better than they are in America, are you?"

    Noah responded: "No, no, no, I'm not saying that – you guys are saying that." A soundbite followed of left-wing New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof ranting on CNN:

    The United States right now incarcerates more African-Americans, as a percentage, than Apartheid South Africa did. The race gap in wealth in the United States right now between the median white family and the median black family is eighteen-fold, that's greater than the black-white wealth gap was in Apartheid South Africa.

     

    Noah concluded: "Here's the amazing part, for South Africa to achieve that kind of black-white wealth gap, we had to construct an entire Apartheid state, denying blacks the right to vote or own property. But you, you did it without even trying. We trained for decades and you just waltzed in and won the gold medal."

    Even the response from Stewart's reliably liberal audience was muted as Noah made the incendiary racial jokes.

    With Nightly Show host Larry Wilmore having already taken over Stephen Colbert's time slot, the addition of Noah may give Comedy Central a full hour of late-night race-baiting.

     

    The United States right now incarcerates more African-Americans, as a percentage, than Apartheid South Africa did.

    As Bossel noted, the South African government didn’t imprison African-Americans. For a Harvard grad, Kristof is a special kind of stupid. And when is the Times going to hire an editor?

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  109. donut says:

    This Twitter hysterical lynch mob attack phenomena is a female thing . Back in 1991 when I left the best job I ever had (99%) men and went into a “profession” that was 99% female , it took me about 3 months to figure out how they work . They stick together no matter what . I learned very quickly that any time the swarm noticed any hint of a hive member in distress they would turn and attack the source (me) as one , reflexively , like a group of white blood cells clumping around a foreign invader . For them there is no right or wrong in any conflict there is only the instinctive group solidarity and instinctive drive to kill .
    Eventually as a matter of survival I adapted and even thrived , got laid and made some friends but with a few exceptions developed a deep and lasting contempt for women as a group . But then with few exceptions I feel that way about the whole human race . Satan really doesn’t have much of a challenge .

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    The meanest cur on the street in some third world shit hole has more nobility of soul than 99% percent of humankind .
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Even being Jewish is no protection. The ladies are out for a guy named Ari Shaffir now: http://jezebel.com/comedy-bro-bizarrely-bullies-one-armed-lady-comic-1694275016
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  110. donut says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Agree about Match Point, which was excellent. And yeah, Allen's prolific so not everything he's made is great. But Dunham's not even in the same ballpark with him.

    Mel Brooks is still funny. In his recent one man show, he started telling a World War II anecdote involving pontoon bridges and then interjected, "I can't teach you military engineering now. You'll have to see me after for that."

    OK , that’s good .

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  111. donut says:
    @donut
    This Twitter hysterical lynch mob attack phenomena is a female thing . Back in 1991 when I left the best job I ever had (99%) men and went into a "profession" that was 99% female , it took me about 3 months to figure out how they work . They stick together no matter what . I learned very quickly that any time the swarm noticed any hint of a hive member in distress they would turn and attack the source (me) as one , reflexively , like a group of white blood cells clumping around a foreign invader . For them there is no right or wrong in any conflict there is only the instinctive group solidarity and instinctive drive to kill .
    Eventually as a matter of survival I adapted and even thrived , got laid and made some friends but with a few exceptions developed a deep and lasting contempt for women as a group . But then with few exceptions I feel that way about the whole human race . Satan really doesn't have much of a challenge .

    The meanest cur on the street in some third world shit hole has more nobility of soul than 99% percent of humankind .

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  112. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @donut
    This Twitter hysterical lynch mob attack phenomena is a female thing . Back in 1991 when I left the best job I ever had (99%) men and went into a "profession" that was 99% female , it took me about 3 months to figure out how they work . They stick together no matter what . I learned very quickly that any time the swarm noticed any hint of a hive member in distress they would turn and attack the source (me) as one , reflexively , like a group of white blood cells clumping around a foreign invader . For them there is no right or wrong in any conflict there is only the instinctive group solidarity and instinctive drive to kill .
    Eventually as a matter of survival I adapted and even thrived , got laid and made some friends but with a few exceptions developed a deep and lasting contempt for women as a group . But then with few exceptions I feel that way about the whole human race . Satan really doesn't have much of a challenge .

    Even being Jewish is no protection. The ladies are out for a guy named Ari Shaffir now: http://jezebel.com/comedy-bro-bizarrely-bullies-one-armed-lady-comic-1694275016

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    Go to youtube and search Ari Shaffir Amazing Racist (NSFW).
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  113. donut says:

    God dammit Sailer . What’s the problem now ? Don’t like chubbies ? You know I’m a hunt and peck kind of guy .

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  114. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    : “The group that dominates the contemporary mindset, ethnocentric liberal Jews…”

    My social network has around 50 Gentile liberals for every Jewish liberal, so I’m pretty skeptical.

    Better than prioritizing an “us vs. them” mentality would be to recruit Jews concerned about anti-Semitic NAM immigrants.

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    >>> would be to recruit Jews concerned about anti-Semitic NAM immigrants.


    those folks are the mainstay of Mishmeret Yesha. They do not think that the situation in North America is salvageable.
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  115. @Trayvon Zimmerman
    Here are two truly transgressive jokes on TV during the last 20 years:

    The Simpsons: Lisa asks a nice white lady from the government why the feds can't spend more money on one of Lisa's pet projects. The lady explains that the feds only have so much money, so they can only afford to spend money on the really important stuff, like "anti-smoking programs, tobacco subsidies, and Israel."

    King of the Hill: Hank's dad, who was missing both legs below the knee (I think they were shot off in Viet Nam IIRC), is always complaining about how unfair life is. Hank tells him it's unseemly and asks him to knock it off: "Look, Dad, I know you've had a rough life, but can you please give it a rest every now and then? I know it's hard, but you can do it. Look how much the Jews have suffered, but you never hear them complaining."

    The Colonel lost his shyins to the damn Tojos after killing 200 single handed. Favorite character along with Kahn and Buck Strickland. Octavio cool too Ese.

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  116. @Scotty G. Vito

    The factual problem with what Noah tweeted, however, is that I can’t find any evidence that Iovine is anything other than Italian Catholic
     
    Dre's former gang N.W.A.'s manager was -- trigger warning -- a Jewish guy. Believe it or not the black comedians of that era seemed to find this funny in a genuinely self-deprecating sense, e.g. the rappers would front about earning such fearsome riches by dint of their hardness but tended to have a shlemiel off to the side actually minding the $$$ and the promotional sched. Of course then there is the added wrinkle that the manager was also a stereotypical Jewish manager, which led to some tension. I'm pretty sure this wonderfully stereotype-y type of stereo trope is referenced in both "CB4" and "Fear of a Black Hat" -- the latter written/directed by a Fair-Trade Birkenstock left-winger dude but refreshingly un-P.C. Oh, to live in the early 90s...

    I think I read it here but Russell Simmons actually fronted for Rick Rubin, who was the guy who created the sound that is now known as Rap while they were at CCNY together.

    Before that rap “songs” were long with simple rhymes over a DJ’s spinning and mixing. The Sugar Hill Gang, etc. was the original sound, but it gets tedious. Rubin changed to shorter, bass driven raps and edgier lyrics. When Simmons heard Rubin’s edits and cuts they went into business together. Simmons was just the front man for the street cred. Rubin made the sound.

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  117. G Pinfold says:

    Sounds like another item for the series about white gentile men doing things better. Add Jewish humour to the list.

    But seriously, what happened to the artistic sensibility known as empathy? As a teenager in the Jewish Century, it seemed like my soul was Hebrew-fied. If I wasn’t listening to Bob Dylan or Leonard Cohen, I was reading Anne Frank, Primo Levi, Saul Bellow, Franz Kafka, Karl Marx, et al. And all this in a fairly kosher neighbourhood.

    I couldn’t imagine writing about that time and place without ‘going there’.

    So now the world champions of intellectual nuance are banning empathy – the supposed cornerstone of liberal blank-slate civility. They stand there wagging their fingers like the fat lady behind the DMV counter: ‘You don’t KNOW me! You don’t KNOW me!’

    I’m at least Jewish enough to find this acutely embarrassing.

    Also, BTW, the alleged stereotype about Jewish chicks not putting out must have been sarcasm. Check the audio for Noah’s tone of delivery.

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  118. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @bossel
    "his stridently anti-white views"
    Seems like you have the same problem with whites in jokes as that Phoebe chick with Jews. Can't really see your anti-white point in the quote.

    But what I noticed quoted in the quote:


    The United States right now incarcerates more African-Americans, as a percentage, than Apartheid South Africa did.
     
    How many African-Americans were jailed in South Africa? Not many, I suppose. African-Africans (or whatever the PC term might be) on the other hand...

    As a percentage of blacks ? …

    I’m not sure housing that many blacks in South African prisons would be logistically possible! …Sounds like an biting little quip – but not a very useful comparison.

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  119. Reminds of the old joke:

    “The Jews don’t run Hollywood, and if you say they do, they will destroy you”.

    Also, of Seinfeld where Jerry dentist converts to Judaism so he can tell Jewish Jokes.

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  120. @Paul Mendez
    OT:

    On tonight's episode of Law & Order: SVU it sounds like Stabler and Benson will be arresting Haven Monohan.

    Law & Order: SVU plot synopsis (SPOILER ALERT!)

    Benson arrests Haven Monahan, but he walks on a technicality.

    (I watch L&O so you don’t have to. )

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  121. @P
    "Family Guy" somehow keeps getting away with pretty outrageous jokes about Jews. Take a look at this one, for example. I'm sure they have plenty of Jewish writers and producers, but the show is strongly identified with Seth MacFarlane so there have been some rumblings.

    “Family Guy” somehow keeps getting away with pretty outrageous jokes about Jews.

    How about the one where Peter puts a “scare-Jew” in front of his house–a scarecrow that looks like Hitler. Stereotype Mort Goldman sees it and runs away screaming, “Agh! He’s back! Protect Jon Stewart! He’s our most important Jew!”

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    How about the one where Peter puts a “scare-Jew” in front of his house–a scarecrow that looks like Hitler
     
    I remember a cartoon in a shipmate's girlie mag of two neighbors chatting over their backyard fence. Behind one man was a scarecrow done up like the Ayatollah Khomeini. He told his neighbor, "I don't know about crows, but it sure keeps the Jews away."

    So that's where Family Guy gets its ideas. From the Carter-era f***books left on the deck in the head.
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  122. slumber_j says:
    @P
    "Family Guy" somehow keeps getting away with pretty outrageous jokes about Jews. Take a look at this one, for example. I'm sure they have plenty of Jewish writers and producers, but the show is strongly identified with Seth MacFarlane so there have been some rumblings.

    I dunno: South Park has been doing that for a really long time. Cf the “Jew Gold” business here:

    http://southpark.cc.com/clips/155015/jew-gold

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  123. Erik L says:
    @Irish Savant
    It always astounds me that Jews never seem to make the connection between their behaviour (such as that you refer to) and an eventual explosion of goyim resentment, which is always portrayed as resulting from mindless bigotry.

    You'd image that absorbing this vital lesson would represent a major step forward for their ethnic evolutionary strategy. As well as a God-send for the rest of us!

    I take it your point is that Jews deserve the treatment they receive. I suppose since it is not your ethnic group you are fine punishing all Jews for the perceived behavior of a minority of Jews. I guess you’re lucky no one is for collective punishment for your group.

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  124. Erik L says:
    @syonredux
    The overwhelming majority of the Jews killed by the Nazis lived outside of Germany (in Poland, Russia, Ukraine, etc).The extermination of European Jewry was only one small part of Hitler's plan to racially remake Eastern Europe:

    The Final Solution, as the Nazis called it, was originally only one of the exterminatory projects to be implemented after a victorious war against the Soviet Union. Had things gone the way that Hitler, Himmler, and Göring expected, German forces would have implemented a Hunger Plan in the Soviet Union in the winter of 1941–1942. As Ukrainian and south Russian agricultural products were diverted to Germany, some 30 million people in Belarus, northern Russia, and Soviet cities were to be starved to death. The Hunger Plan was only a prelude to Generalplan Ost, the colonization plan for the western Soviet Union, which foresaw the elimination of some 50 million people.

    The Germans did manage to carry out policies that bore some resemblance to these plans. They expelled half a million non-Jewish Poles from lands annexed to the Reich. An impatient Himmler ordered a first stage of Generalplan Ost implemented in eastern Poland: ten thousand Polish children were killed and a hundred thousand adults expelled. The Wehrmacht purposefully starved about one million people in the siege of Leningrad, and about a hundred thousand more in planned famines in Ukrainian cities. Some three million captured Soviet soldiers died of starvation or disease in German prisoner-of-war camps. These people were purposefully killed: as with the siege of Leningrad, the knowledge and intention to starve people to death was present. Had the Holocaust not taken place, this would be recalled as the worst war crime in modern history.

    In the guise of anti-partisan actions, the Germans killed perhaps three quarters of a million people, about 350,000 in Belarus alone, and lower but comparable numbers in Poland and Yugoslavia. The Germans killed more than a hundred thousand Poles when suppressing the Warsaw Uprising of 1944. Had the Holocaust not happened, these “reprisals” too would be regarded as some of the greatest war crimes in history. In fact they, like the starvation of Soviet prisoners of war, are scarcely recalled at all beyond the countries directly concerned. German occupation policies killed non-Jewish civilians in other ways as well, for example by hard labor in prison camps. Again: these were chiefly people from Poland or the Soviet Union.
     
    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2009/jul/16/holocaust-the-ignored-reality/

    I don’t understand what part of my comment this was a response to.

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    I don’t understand what part of my comment this was a response to.
     
    That Hitler's racial policies in Europe had little to do with what a given population was doing in Germany
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  125. Erik L says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Most of the Jews killed by the Nazis had nothing to do with banking at all. What % of Polish Jews do you think were bankers? And prominent German Jewish bankers and industrialists like Rathenau or the Warburgs were highly assimilated patriots.

    I know but what are you implying that these sorts of things weren’t the reasons Hitler hated Jews?

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  126. @Harry Baldwin
    “Family Guy” somehow keeps getting away with pretty outrageous jokes about Jews.

    How about the one where Peter puts a "scare-Jew" in front of his house--a scarecrow that looks like Hitler. Stereotype Mort Goldman sees it and runs away screaming, "Agh! He's back! Protect Jon Stewart! He's our most important Jew!"

    How about the one where Peter puts a “scare-Jew” in front of his house–a scarecrow that looks like Hitler

    I remember a cartoon in a shipmate’s girlie mag of two neighbors chatting over their backyard fence. Behind one man was a scarecrow done up like the Ayatollah Khomeini. He told his neighbor, “I don’t know about crows, but it sure keeps the Jews away.”

    So that’s where Family Guy gets its ideas. From the Carter-era f***books left on the deck in the head.

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  127. @M_Young
    I knew a Croatian guy who grew up in New York City -- he said if he and his friends wanted oral pleasure, they'd head out to Long Island and try to pick up suburban Jewish girls. Hearsay, sure, but I haven't noticed that secular Jewish girls object to much of anything in the sex department, and that's from my own experience.

    I’ve admittedly had limited experience, but all the Jewish girls I’ve been with have had an aversion to anything sexual involving their mouths. One, even French kissing (gum disease, according to her cousin the dentist. )

    Butts are a totally ‘nother thang…

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  128. @Clyde
    Trevor, being one of the coolest British names, will also provide Noah with more insulation for telling non-PC jokes. Driving home that he is not American, thus immune from criticism and is an all around suave and OK guy. The Comedy Channel mavens want more leeway to tell non-PC jokes and Trevor The Brit will allow this. Non-PC jokes are funnier and everyone knows it, even as they keep their mouths shut.
    Yes, I know he is South African, from the land of lib icon Nelson Mandela, so how can boundary pusher Trevor possibly be a racist, homophobe, misogynist and anti-Semite?

    Trevor, being one of the coolest British names…

    Trevor was one of the twins on TV’s Please Don’t Eat the Daisies. How American can you get?

    But I thought it was considered rather prole at home (well, not at home home, i.e., Wales), kind of like Brian.

    Nobody on this side of the Pond got the joke behind Life of Brian. That name was still “cool” here.

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  129. Ezra says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Even being Jewish is no protection. The ladies are out for a guy named Ari Shaffir now: http://jezebel.com/comedy-bro-bizarrely-bullies-one-armed-lady-comic-1694275016

    Go to youtube and search Ari Shaffir Amazing Racist (NSFW).

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    Will take a look. I watched a few minutes of the one-armed lady comic's response and it wasn't funny at all.
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  130. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Ezra
    Go to youtube and search Ari Shaffir Amazing Racist (NSFW).

    Will take a look. I watched a few minutes of the one-armed lady comic’s response and it wasn’t funny at all.

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  131. […] The Liberal Ethnocentric Jewish Crackup of 2015 Comes to Comedy […]

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  132. @Priss Factor
    So, all comedians have to be vetted for Jewish-friendliness?

    Jews bitch about how everyone 'hysterically' notices Jewish power, but the more Jews act like this, people can't help but notice that Jews have the power, indeed like the Roman emperors who went thumbs up or thumbs down on everyone.

    Maybe what we need is something like HULC for humor. House Un-Jewish Laughter Committee.

    "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the anti-Jewish humor organization?"

    Trevor Noah... not quite Dieudonne: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSkUq-3JF3M

    BUT, it must be a bummer that the safest black comedian that the Liberal Jewish media could find in South Africa--after all, the guy is part-Jewish--is so casual with jokes about Jews.

    In a way, Jews have been blindsided by their own bullying arrogance and narcissism. They suffer from Kim Jong Un Syndrome. We know, indeed every honest person knows, that Kim Jong Un is a big fat ugly dumbass who looks funny as hell.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-KEkt4IIbk

    But it's an absolute No-No in North Korea to even suggest that he is anything less than a god.

    With all such adulation 24/7, the dumbass really thinks he is the smartest, most handsome, and most awesome person on earth. And if anyone were to suggest, even faintly, that Kim is anything less than superman would make the entire system go after him as a heretic who must be punished.

    US is a liberal democracy by law, but Jews have gained such total domination in government finance, entertainment, and media that they impose and run the Narrative like communist governments used to do. Everyone in the US knows he or she is finished if he or she displeases Jews. The ONLY thing Rick Sanchez said is Jews made it in the US, they are rich, and very prominent in the media. That was enough for him to be blacklisted worse than the Hollywood Ten (who were Stalinists and real scumbags).

    Because everyone fears Jews, no one says anything that might be construed as insulting to Jews. Only Jews can say some funny or biting stuff about Jews, but Jews take pride in this as example of their own self-criticism and ability to laugh at themselves. But it is monopolized ONLY by Jews. It's like a dictator of a nation making a joke about himself to show that he's an fun easy-going guy but then forbids ANYONE ELSE to do likewise. So, even his self-mockery is a form of narcissism. "I'm not only so very great but sort of humble and don't take myself too seriously." It's like Mao who forced all Chinese to worship him as a god but then told Edgar Snow with false modesty that he's irritated by all the cult of personality and only wishes to be remembered as a teacher, 'a school teacher' at that. Uhhhhhhh.



    Just like Stalin and Kim and Castro, Jews have gotten so used to an environment that never utters anything critical about them and instead praises everything about Jews 24/7 that they are genuinely surprised when it turns out that not all the people around the world are crazy about them.
    Gee, how could that be when American Jews grow up with glowing praise from everyone, every group, every famous person, etc? If Dems and Repubs have ONE thing in common, it is praise for Jews and support for Israel. Even the Dems who didn't attend Netanhayu's speech was protesting against breach of protocol, not against Israeli policy against Palestinians, whom they don't care about at all.

    It's about time Jew woke up and realize that they've created an artificial bubble for themselves, one that is hard to sustain because of the power of the internet. Especially because Jews have so much power and privilege, it' s looking more and more like bad form for them to act like they are champions of equality. It's like commie leaders who live in luxury pretending that they are 'one of the people'.

    Also, Jews are losing friends on both the Left and Right. The Left, being defined more and more by Rise of Color, increasingly sees Jews not only as part of 'white privilege' but as THE FACE of white privilege.
    As for the Right, many of them outside Conservative Inc. are beginning to notice that Jews have pulled a dirty trick on them. It's no wonder Ann Coulter was not invited to CPAC. She wrote some columns about how Jewish Republicans support border patrol in Israel but call for open borders here. Among conservatives, GOP's star is fading fast. Many loathe it as the den of Neocons.

    But because Jews control the media and have bought the loyalty of gentile elites who ONLY TELL JEWS WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR, Jews have come under the impression that everyone loves them and that's that. They've become like Parker Posey in DAZED AND CONFUSED who expects all the girls to love and respect her despite her total bitchiness.

    https://youtu.be/Olm0KUtsFE8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMPGQ497rPc

    AIR-RAID, freshman!

    The fact is many Jews are NOT lovable. Sure, there are many nice Jews and all that, but there are also many nasty and vicious Jews, and it's something people talk about all the time. Just like it's un-PC to say negative things about blacks but people say that stuff all the time on a person-to-person basis, a lot of people say negative things about Jews because they've had bad experiences with Jews in childhood, in business, relations, and etc.
    I wonder what Rick Sanchez has been saying about Jews with his Cuban friends who surely sympathize with him. I've met Hispanics who, on the subject of Jews, say, "they own everything."

    An Asian-American girl used to tell us how she went a school full of Jews and they used to make her feel miserable and even threw food at her. Of course, most Jews don't act like this, but there are plenty of Jews who are a-holes(as with any other people).
    The media can show the good and bad of whites, browns, yellows, and even blacks sometimes.
    But when it comes to Jews, it's friendly, friendly, friendly, worshipful, worshipful, worshipful. And even when someone like Bernie Madoff comes along, the main narrative is (1) Oh, his victims were mostly Jewish and (2) we must be very careful about criticizing him because we don't want to be 'antisemitic', do we? So, let us use his case as teachable moment to love Jews ever more!!! Gag.

    Because of Jewish control of media, suppression of criticism of Jews, and self-censorship among prominent gentiles in media and entertainment, Jews have become totally ignorant of how a lot of people really feel about Jews.
    It's like the Shah of Iran and Ceausescu lived in a bubble and only listened to stuff about how the people loved and revered them and simply couldn't believe that people, indeed anyone, could have anything but the nicest and most glowing feelings about them.

    Jews are smart but it goes to show what vanity and narcissism could do to a people. Jews only need to look in the mirror to understand why many people don't like Jews. '
    If Jews could be so filled with hatred and contempt for Christians, Arabs, Russians, and etc. why is it so shocking that gentiles might not like Jews? If Jewish animus and hostility toward others are understandable, why isn't the reverse understandable?

    It's because Jews have pushed the Narrative where they are always right, always the poor victims, always the wronged party, and always justified. And because Jews have imposed this Narrative on the West and because the craven West has swallowed it(or pretends to at least in front of Jews), Jews have really come to think it's a mental sickness for anyone to have negative feelings about Jews. Even when Jews admit that the Nakba happened, they still insist that Palestinians should suck it up and the rest of us should just mindlessly wave the Israeli flag.

    What Andrew Sarris said of Bosley Crowther applies to Jews. Sarris said Crowther is not an evil man. The problem was power. Because of Crowther's immense power, he could make or break the success of so many movies, so many movies.

    Likewise, Jews aren't intrinsically more evil than any other people. Arabs, Chinese, Russians, Iranians, Africans, Hindus, Mexicans, are all full of shit. Many of them are nasty vicious shitters.
    But nastiness without power is just nastiness, and we can call out on it.
    But nastiness with power promotes itself as wonderfulness and the rest of us are forced to agree.
    Look at the 'gay agenda'. Many people find it sick and gross, but most conservatives remain silent or even pretend to praise it because it's a form of nastiness supported by and enforced by the most powerful power in the US: Jewish power.

    So, even though US is a liberal democracy in principle, much of the practice is oligarchic and repressive, and Jews have become the overlord race. And they are shocked, really really shocked, to come upon evidence that the entire world isn't enthralled with them.

    Most people can’t tell Jewish and gentile whites apart. To the average American, Jews are just regular white people. Americans don’t distinguish them apart at all.
    The only people who pay close attention to Jews are Muslims (because they hate Jews) and elites/elite-wannabes (because they aspire to join our heavily Jewish over class).

    Christian conservatives criticize Hollywood, feminism, and the gay/trans movement while also being fanatically pro-Israel and philosemitic. They see no apparent contradiction. Neither do liberals who mock neoconservatives but also embrace the feminist and gay movements.

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    If you think of Bibi Netanyahu when you think of Jews, there isn't much of a contradiction. He's not involved in WWT or WWG.

    I think a lot of Christian conservative support for Israel and Jews (qua religious Jews, not secular, liberal, ethnic Jews) is a politically correct way of being anti-Islam.
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  133. 5371 says:

    So Jews, your US Army will start training Hitler’s followers on Hitler’s birthday! How does that make you feel?

    http://www.stripes.com/us-forces-to-hold-exercises-in-ukraine-1.337639

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  134. map says:

    Daily Show.

    The Daily Show and Steven Colbert had a combined audience smaller than Diners, Drive-ins and Drives.

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  135. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Most people can't tell Jewish and gentile whites apart. To the average American, Jews are just regular white people. Americans don't distinguish them apart at all.
    The only people who pay close attention to Jews are Muslims (because they hate Jews) and elites/elite-wannabes (because they aspire to join our heavily Jewish over class).

    Christian conservatives criticize Hollywood, feminism, and the gay/trans movement while also being fanatically pro-Israel and philosemitic. They see no apparent contradiction. Neither do liberals who mock neoconservatives but also embrace the feminist and gay movements.

    If you think of Bibi Netanyahu when you think of Jews, there isn’t much of a contradiction. He’s not involved in WWT or WWG.

    I think a lot of Christian conservative support for Israel and Jews (qua religious Jews, not secular, liberal, ethnic Jews) is a politically correct way of being anti-Islam.

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  136. Karl says:
    @Bill P

    As of 2015, there are a lot of Americans who are part-Jewish. It might make pragmatic sense for part-Jews to make use of privileges afforded to self-identifying Jews, such as free Birthright vacations in Israel on Sheldon Adelson’s dime.

    But perhaps the great conflict of the future will be between full Jews and part Jews?
     
    Well, one major issue of contention is the civil marriage issue in Israel (civil marriage doesn't exist there). In order to legally marry in Israel, one has to use an approved synagague/mosque/church. So if you're Jewish on your father's side in the reform/conservative tradition that is most common for liberal Jews, you may have the right to make Aliyah, but you can't marry into a Jewish family in Israel without first going through a tedious conversion process and gaining acceptance into Orthodox Judaism. In fact, you can't even get married to an American Jew in Israel without doing so unless your mother is racially Jewish. You'd have to go to Cyprus.

    This de facto ethnic purity law seems reasonable enough to me given Israel's demographics and the Jews' relatively small status as a nation, but a lot of American half Jews don't like it for understandable reasons. They don't feel fully accepted as Jews, so there's some resentment there. I imagine this is magnified when the non-Jewish part is non-white. It seems to me that half-Jews are more readily accepted into the fold when they are half European and look like, say, Michael Landon.

    >> without first going through a tedious conversion process and gaining acceptance into Orthodox Judaism

    not so. Express arrangements can be made. You need to find the correct lawyer-intermediary-bagman.

    There’s a few that have offices in the Old Central Bus Station (of TelAviv). Once a country starts bringing in mass quantities of 20-somethings Filipinas for household labor, there inevitably occurs the phenomenon of local-yokel 50-something divorced guys who start sniffing around them. The shack-up-ness migrates to marriage faster here than in some other countries, because we keep guest-workers on MUCH tighter visa leashes. So, the guy decides to just put a ring on it.

    Go to the Old Bus Station, buy yourself a lunch at an Adobo joint, and start chatting up the waitresses. They can point you in the right direction.

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  137. Karl says:
    @Anon
    @Steve Sailer: "The group that dominates the contemporary mindset, ethnocentric liberal Jews..."

    My social network has around 50 Gentile liberals for every Jewish liberal, so I'm pretty skeptical.

    Better than prioritizing an "us vs. them" mentality would be to recruit Jews concerned about anti-Semitic NAM immigrants.

    >>> would be to recruit Jews concerned about anti-Semitic NAM immigrants.

    those folks are the mainstay of Mishmeret Yesha. They do not think that the situation in North America is salvageable.

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    A surprising number of the radical Israeli settler types (guys whose ultimate goal is to get the Arabs to leave the occupied territories, not to live with them) grew up in Brooklyn (at a time before Brooklyn was synonymous with hipsters). There was a time when the old Jewish neighborhoods of Brooklyn were being overrun by blacks and by black crime. The richer Jews departed for Long Island and did not look back. But New York actually had a Jewish proletariat - just regular working zhlubs, cops and mailmen, etc. and these folks could not afford to leave. Their experience with blacks was not the suburban liberal one where the only blacks that you know are on TV or a few Obama type blacks, but with real life ghetto types. Therefore, they hate, hate, hate blacks (in the same way that lower class Italians and other NY ethnics who have been forced to rub up against them do).

    On the other hand, their patron saint Meir Kahane (who BTW could have been Padre Pio's body double) actually learned his shtick from the black power movement of the '60s. Even though he hated the Black Panthers, he copied their ideas. At some point he had shaved off his beard, assumed the name of Michael King and taken a non-Jewish mistress, but then the mistress killed herself when she found out that he was already married and had a family, so he swung to the other pole and became ultra-Jewish. A lot of the bearded settler types also grew up secular but then rejected everything about secular American life.

    Note that "Israelis" are not at all uniform. For every settler there is a liberal in Tel Aviv whose political views (even concerning Israeli security) are indistinguishable from those of American liberal Democrats.
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  138. syonredux says: • Website
    @Erik L
    I don't understand what part of my comment this was a response to.

    I don’t understand what part of my comment this was a response to.

    That Hitler’s racial policies in Europe had little to do with what a given population was doing in Germany

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  139. Dain says: • Website
    @Scotty G. Vito

    The factual problem with what Noah tweeted, however, is that I can’t find any evidence that Iovine is anything other than Italian Catholic
     
    Dre's former gang N.W.A.'s manager was -- trigger warning -- a Jewish guy. Believe it or not the black comedians of that era seemed to find this funny in a genuinely self-deprecating sense, e.g. the rappers would front about earning such fearsome riches by dint of their hardness but tended to have a shlemiel off to the side actually minding the $$$ and the promotional sched. Of course then there is the added wrinkle that the manager was also a stereotypical Jewish manager, which led to some tension. I'm pretty sure this wonderfully stereotype-y type of stereo trope is referenced in both "CB4" and "Fear of a Black Hat" -- the latter written/directed by a Fair-Trade Birkenstock left-winger dude but refreshingly un-P.C. Oh, to live in the early 90s...

    Speaking of early 90s, I was watching Saved by the Bell and was shocked by how dated it is relative to modern SJW sensibility. The attractive female cast openly mocking fat girls, male cast picking on ridiculously stereotyped nerds, etc.

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  140. Jack D says:
    @Karl
    >>> would be to recruit Jews concerned about anti-Semitic NAM immigrants.


    those folks are the mainstay of Mishmeret Yesha. They do not think that the situation in North America is salvageable.

    A surprising number of the radical Israeli settler types (guys whose ultimate goal is to get the Arabs to leave the occupied territories, not to live with them) grew up in Brooklyn (at a time before Brooklyn was synonymous with hipsters). There was a time when the old Jewish neighborhoods of Brooklyn were being overrun by blacks and by black crime. The richer Jews departed for Long Island and did not look back. But New York actually had a Jewish proletariat – just regular working zhlubs, cops and mailmen, etc. and these folks could not afford to leave. Their experience with blacks was not the suburban liberal one where the only blacks that you know are on TV or a few Obama type blacks, but with real life ghetto types. Therefore, they hate, hate, hate blacks (in the same way that lower class Italians and other NY ethnics who have been forced to rub up against them do).

    On the other hand, their patron saint Meir Kahane (who BTW could have been Padre Pio’s body double) actually learned his shtick from the black power movement of the ’60s. Even though he hated the Black Panthers, he copied their ideas. At some point he had shaved off his beard, assumed the name of Michael King and taken a non-Jewish mistress, but then the mistress killed herself when she found out that he was already married and had a family, so he swung to the other pole and became ultra-Jewish. A lot of the bearded settler types also grew up secular but then rejected everything about secular American life.

    Note that “Israelis” are not at all uniform. For every settler there is a liberal in Tel Aviv whose political views (even concerning Israeli security) are indistinguishable from those of American liberal Democrats.

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  141. Svigor says:

    Note that “Israelis” are not at all uniform. For every settler there is a liberal in Tel Aviv whose political views (even concerning Israeli security) are indistinguishable from those of American liberal Democrats.

    And apparently, for every liberal Israeli in Tel Aviv who’s indistinguishable from an American liberal democrat, there are five Israeli “liberals” who are indistinguishable from conservative American Republicans, and ten Israeli conservatives who are indistinguishable from moderate Nazi voters under the Third Reich (or if you prefer, Afrikaner voters under Apartheid).

    The genuine left in Israel is shriveled compared to that in the west. Even the viable, phony left in Israeli politics is well to the right of the American right, while the Israeli right is off the scale. If the left in Israel was like the left in America (especially the Jewish left in America), with similar power, Israel would look completely different.

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  142. j says:
    @Bill P

    As of 2015, there are a lot of Americans who are part-Jewish. It might make pragmatic sense for part-Jews to make use of privileges afforded to self-identifying Jews, such as free Birthright vacations in Israel on Sheldon Adelson’s dime.

    But perhaps the great conflict of the future will be between full Jews and part Jews?
     
    Well, one major issue of contention is the civil marriage issue in Israel (civil marriage doesn't exist there). In order to legally marry in Israel, one has to use an approved synagague/mosque/church. So if you're Jewish on your father's side in the reform/conservative tradition that is most common for liberal Jews, you may have the right to make Aliyah, but you can't marry into a Jewish family in Israel without first going through a tedious conversion process and gaining acceptance into Orthodox Judaism. In fact, you can't even get married to an American Jew in Israel without doing so unless your mother is racially Jewish. You'd have to go to Cyprus.

    This de facto ethnic purity law seems reasonable enough to me given Israel's demographics and the Jews' relatively small status as a nation, but a lot of American half Jews don't like it for understandable reasons. They don't feel fully accepted as Jews, so there's some resentment there. I imagine this is magnified when the non-Jewish part is non-white. It seems to me that half-Jews are more readily accepted into the fold when they are half European and look like, say, Michael Landon.

    Jews’ relatively small status as a nation

    I’d formulate it instead as “Jews’ status as a relatively small nation”

    If anything, our status is “big”.

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