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Sure, it’s a holiday for most people, but, rest assured, Bill Kristol’s mind is still awhirl with plans for you and me.

Big plans.

Not yet disclosed: How exactly would regime change in China work? Who is the Chinese Ahmad Chalabi whom the 1.3 billion Chinese are desperate to have as their new U.S.-backed ruler?

My guess is that Bill is thinking ahead to the promise of new technology: As George H.W. Bush used to shout on the White House tennis court: Unleash Chiang!* Perhaps we could have David Reich dig up Chiang Kai-Shek’s skeleton and clone him. Granted, Chiang lost in 1949, but all he needs is a second chance and a lot more U.S. air support.

But, Bill, why not think really big? All you need to do is to find the lost Tomb of Genghis Khan …

* Or maybe the elder Bush shouted “Unleash Chang” in reference to diminutive tennis star Michael Chang who had recently won the French Open. (My guess is that it’s such a great joke that virtually nobody, such as Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio, who go around shouting “Unleash Chang” to this day, ever got it.)

 
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  1. Can we get a regime change in the US first?

    • Agree: TomSchmidt, Bill H
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Bill’s already hard at work on that one.
    , @Thirdeye
    The Deep State is working on it. That is, unless you consider the Deep State the true regime.
  2. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says:

    Okay, sounds good.

    But how about regime change or Elite Change in the US to prevent more wars in Middle East, with Russia, and with China?

    Then, US won’t have to bother about regime change in China.

    PS. How about regime change in Israel to allow Kristolism, aka Open Borders. Or, is that only for goyim?

  3. Already thinking about the war after next.

  4. No. Next question.

    PS: How’d that idea of regime change work out last time, Bill?

    The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 was a lead balloon of a trial run. You break it, you own it. Iraq has oil, China has leveraged debt up the wazoo.

  5. Allowing Kristol’s ancestors into the US is the biggest damn fool mistake we’ve made.

    Most every idea of the founders–republican government, limited governemt, federalism, majority rule, traditional Anglo-Saxon liberties, avoiding foreign entanglements and most especially the whole “ourselves and our posterity” concept is an anathema to them.

    Constantly twitching and yapping … churning out one asinine idea after another.

    • LOL: Kylie
    • Replies: @Kylie
    Another Dad, I meant to hit the Agree button.

    But the "constantly twitching and yapping" was pretty funny.
    , @Cagey Beast
    I'll go further and say Jewish Emancipation was the biggest mistake the West made since the French Revolution, apart from the two world wars.
    , @AnotherDad
    BTW, the Chinese probably could use--definitely in the long run--some regime change.

    But that's for the Chinese to work out--not us.

    And one reason that the Chinese Communist Party--and more broadly the Chinese business and middle classes-- haven't been chomping at the bit for political reform/liberalization is no doubt the appalling performance of Western liberal elites this past generation:

    -- Destabilizing utopian economic projects--the Euro
    -- Allowing muslim encroachment and terrorism
    -- Expensive utopian "nation building" wars
    -- Encouraging minority debt fueled housing asset price bubble creating financial crisis
    and most of all
    -- Utopian "nation of immigrants" and "refugees!" open borderism and creating massive (low IQ and hostile) demographic change.

    The common thread here is leftist pie in the sky "everyone is the same" or "everyone can be an American" blank slatism. Call it Lewontinism or Kristolization.

    And no one actually thinking--rather than emoting--and certainly not the Chinese would look at the performance of these Western "elites" and think "oh yeah, we want to copy those guys!"
    , @Emblematic
    Little more than a generation after being let into the United States in large numbers their influence was such that they were successful in dragging the country into The First World War.
    , @Stan d Mute

    Constantly twitching and yapping … churning out one asinine idea after another.
     
    The problem isn’t Kristol. I can show you a dozen imbeciles yapping insane ideas hanging out with their shopping carts at the Ann Arbor Public Library any time of day or night. And a hundred more, no cleaner or better dressed but at least not homeless, inside the Library reading or browsing when it’s open.

    The problem is us.

    We pay attention to what this clown says. We pay for the privilege in our precious time, in ad revenues, newsprint, and cable tv or internet service charges. It very much looks to me like we approve of him. Nobody is coerced to read or listen to his ilk.

    What I want to know is whether someone like Kristol isn’t akin to a guy in the public square shouting that he loves to molest children. Kristol is demanding death and destruction on an epic scale. The left feels justified in exercising the mob veto of free speech over microaggressions, but we just peck out our frustrations on a keyboard or with our closest confidantes over a beer until some unhinged idiot vents his steam by shooting up a church or synagogue. We can’t even manage to boycott sportsball when sportsball affletes spit in our faces. Something has gone terribly wrong within us.
  6. All you need to do is to find the lost Tomb of Genghis Khan …

    Or one of his billion living descendants. There must be a pretender on every corner.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    Or one of his billion living descendants. There must be a pretender on every corner.
     
    I’m 10% Mongolian according to DNA Land. Does that count?
  7. In Xanadu did Kristol Khan
    A stately pressure-dome decree :
    Where Alif, the sacred river, ran
    Through caverns measureless to man
    Down to a senseless sea.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    "The Kristol Never Rests"

    But who is really to blame?

    "Trump cracked the glowing Kristol open, releasing its eldritch energies."
     
    Who said this?
  8. @AnotherDad
    Allowing Kristol's ancestors into the US is the biggest damn fool mistake we've made.

    Most every idea of the founders--republican government, limited governemt, federalism, majority rule, traditional Anglo-Saxon liberties, avoiding foreign entanglements and most especially the whole "ourselves and our posterity" concept is an anathema to them.

    Constantly twitching and yapping ... churning out one asinine idea after another.

    Another Dad, I meant to hit the Agree button.

    But the “constantly twitching and yapping” was pretty funny.

  9. Well, clone Mao. The liberals never get around to criticizing, much less condemning the mass murderers such as Mao, Stalin, Pot Pol etc. Good way to get a handle on China’s population.

  10. Send in Charlie Chan with a suitcase nuke because he’s on our side!

  11. @AnotherDad
    Allowing Kristol's ancestors into the US is the biggest damn fool mistake we've made.

    Most every idea of the founders--republican government, limited governemt, federalism, majority rule, traditional Anglo-Saxon liberties, avoiding foreign entanglements and most especially the whole "ourselves and our posterity" concept is an anathema to them.

    Constantly twitching and yapping ... churning out one asinine idea after another.

    I’ll go further and say Jewish Emancipation was the biggest mistake the West made since the French Revolution, apart from the two world wars.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    Wow, hard to top that but I know someone here soon will.
    , @Uilleam Yr Alban
    The odious Oliver Cromwell's decision to reverse the Edict of Expulsion was a preceding mistake of significant magnitude. One good thing I'll say about Edward I, the Longshanks, the Hammer of the Scots, is that he chose his indigenous poor over the usurers, factors, and tax farmers who conspired with England's nobles to squeeze the peasantry.

    Cf. Joseph in Egypt, Daniel in Babylon, etc. Helping exploitative elites further exploit is the Tribe's most ancient trade.
    , @pyrrhus
    The two world wars were the same mistake....
    , @Anonymous
    Scorpion and the Frog
    , @The Alarmist
    Blame it on those pussies who ran the inquisition.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WJXHY2OXGE
  12. please please please, oh mighty neocons, please have the hubris to take on china with your affirmative action military…it would be the highlight of my life to see china retaliate with guerrilla infiltration squads that would take down our big american cities with bombs and even shove a backpack nuke up washington’s tailpipe

  13. Send in Charlie Chan with a suitcase nuke because he’s on our side!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    I'm Uncle Sam, that's who I am.
    Been hidin' out in a rock and roll band.
    Shake the hand that shook the hand
    of P.T. Barnum and Charlie Chan.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPBLfzTPCDc

    Wave that flag, wave it wide and high
    Summertime done, come and gone, my, oh, my.
  14. He should go over there to subvert their power structure and screw over their people.

    • Replies: @FLgeezer
    >He should go over there to subvert their power structure and screw over their people.

    As is presently being done in Germany. 'Tis the season after all:

    https://www.france24.com/en/20181123-berlin-man-95-charged-over-36000-deaths-nazi-camp
    , @njguy73

    He should go over there to subvert their power structure and screw over their people.
     
    Sending Kristol to China? OK, now you're getting dangerously close to the international definition of "human rights violations."
    , @Redneck farmer
    They'll show him part of their Strategic Pork Reserve (A real thing) and Bill will decide dealing with the Chinese ain't kosher!
  15. Hopefully the Chinese Foreign Ministry demands a formal disavowal of Kristol from the State Department. Force Kristol to apologise to China the way Dolce & Gabbana just did:

    Dolce&Gabbana founders apologize to China after ad, Instagram fiasco

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/dolce-gabbana-apology-china-backlash-1.4917653

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Hey, they may just be able to make that happen. This ain't 1995 anymore. Per Western airlines bow down to China Commies' petty whims, when China says "jump" now, western globalist airlines say "how high?" (Prequel post here.)
    , @Bill B.

    Hopefully the Chinese Foreign Ministry demands a formal disavowal of Kristol from the State Department. Force Kristol to apologise to China the way Dolce & Gabbana just did:
     
    kristol is not hoping to sell something to China; he wants someone to impose an idea on China.
  16. Kristol is insane. I do not use that word lightly.

    • Replies: @Ibound1
    Kristol is insane but anyone who listens to him is even more insane.
  17. “When you and him are done fighting, I got this other guy you should fight.”

  18. It’s easier to put on a pair of shoes than to wrap the earth in leather.
    ~ Chogyam Trungpa

    That’s a Buddhist point of view. Neocons come from a different tradition and it shows.

  19. Kristol is the real life Dr. Strangelove. Unfortunately nobody in the establishment has the courage to put him in a straitjacket and lock him in an asylum.

    • Replies: @Bubba
    You got that right. Ironically, in 1992 Billy Kristol started the GOP neocon charge to straitjacket Pat Buchanan and turn him into a laughingstock. Pat's been vindicated many times over by Billy Kristol's never ending disastrous & mass murdering schemes.
  20. OT: Jewish leaders call for new editions of the Bible and the Koran to carry trigger warnings highlighting anti-Semitic passages

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6421233/Jewish-leaders-call-religious-texts-carry-warnings-highlighting-anti-Semitic-passages.html

    The document reads: ‘Translations of the New Testament, the Qur’an and other Christian or Muslim literatures need marginal glosses, and introductions that emphasize continuity with Jewish heritage of both Christianity and Islam and warn readers about antisemitic passages in them.

    There is no proposal for marginal glosses for the anti-Gentilic passages in the Hebrew Bible or the Talmud; or for introductions to point out the elements of Judaism that have continuity with ancient Babylonian, Persian, or Egyptian beliefs. Surely these are equally important?

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    Just ignore them. They always go for this kooky stuff.
    , @Twinkie
    Thanks to Jewish agitation and meddling in MY religion, I am no longer allowed to pray for their conversion during Mass. Not that I wish to meddle in theirs, but I have a feeling I’d be denounced as an anti-Semite if I were to seek reciprocity.
    , @Pericles

    OT: Jewish leaders call for new editions of the Bible and the Koran to carry trigger warnings highlighting anti-Semitic passages

     

    Yes, perhaps every anti-semitic passage should be clearly marked with a gold box. Just a thought.
    , @Mr. Anon
    I seem to recall a great deal of smiting of the enemies of God's chosen people in the Old Testament. Perhaps glosses could be added alerting people to these anti-gentilic passages.
  21. Open military confrontation with China is the only alternative to MFN. Anything in between just isn’t Who We Are.

    In fact, one must assume China will maintain its permanent normal trade relations status throughout the conflict envisaged by Kristol, only to emerge on the other side as an even more closely linked trade partner.

    • Replies: @Bill B.
    We have to overturn and inflict wholesale change on China because the USA cannot run a sensible trade policy that serves the interest of ordinary Americans.

    The buffoonish Kristol appears to think that replacing leaders with globo-friendly puppets and realigning the ideological framework will do the trick - apparently oblivious to the fact that China is a civilization, not Airstrip One with a managerial ruling apparatus.
  22. Shouldn’t an important U.S. foreign policy goal of the next couple of decades be regime change in China?

    To precisely the same extent that a Chinese or Russian foreign policy goal should be regime change in America.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
  23. “regime change.”

    I mean, it worked so well the last time.

    And the time before that.

    And the time before the time before that.

    • LOL: James N. Kennett
  24. What is with these people and regime change?

    “Everyone mind your own damn business” should be the gold standard for 21st century diplomacy

    • Agree: Bubba
    • Replies: @Twinkie

    “Everyone mind your own damn business” should be the gold standard for 21st century diplomacy
     
    That’s called the Treaties of Westphalia.
    , @MarkinPNW
    But, but, but... there's not any profit for the MIC and big Wall Street banks in that!
    , @PhysicistDave
    Jason Liu wrote:

    “Everyone mind your own damn business” should be the gold standard for 21st century diplomacy
     
    Yes, though J. Q. Adams made your point a bit more eloquently in laying out the proper approach for the United States to take towards the world:

    Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.
     
    Our early statesmen may not have been perfect human beings, but they certainly could be eloquent!
  25. Cold War triumphalism strikes again. Kristol and his Klones will never go away until the founding myth of the neoconnery, the myth that Reagan caused the fall of USSR, is finally overturned.

  26. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

    This guy needs a new hobbie.

  27. Billy Kristol has become a parody of himself.

    He was a lot funnier when he hosted the Oscars.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @Rohirrimborn
    True story. My wiseacre brother sat next to Bill Kristol on a flight and asked him "So is there going to be a City Slickers 3?". Kristol sneered and looked away. I don't think they spoke the rest of the flight.
  28. Now that you mention it Steve, this should be right up your alley. Just like the US has kept Fatullah Gulen on ice in case of Turkey, the US intelligence agencies has also kept Li Hongzhi active in the US. The man basically went from running a running a pyramid scheme in China during the 90′s to US government funded puppet to self proclaimed messiah. Interesting fact, just like Gulen and his cult organization is making money through wierd avenues (Charter schools in the US), Li Hongzhi and his money comes from a touring (terribly crappy im afraid) dance ensemble, that and tens of millions of dollars of Canadian government subsidies.

    https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/columnists/kiff-disproportionate-funding-goes-to-media-outlet-linked-to-falun-gong

    Seems like a pretty obvious case of pushy minorities capturing a market. Like the one annoying person who manages to capture a PTA seat by virtue of being the only one who wants it. Falun Gong cultists seems to have seized all government funding in Canada for Chinese language programs, hence they operate a slew of media organizations that are ostensibly independent but dont amount to more than 1 link away from Falun Gong.

    Unlike Gulen though, Li seems to be much more megalomaniacal and his rural upstate cult compound, dragon springs, is in NY as opposed to Pennsylvania. So he probably has significantly more funding coming in from other unidentified revenue streams.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=falun+gong+dragon+springs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj6k6Sg9uveAhWFzVkKHcFWBh0Q_AUIDygC&biw=1920&bih=926#imgrc=IoXGgesldGZ6RM:

    Note the massive perimeter wall and lack of any windows on the lower floors. Naturally the NIMBY’s in upstate NY are pissed about their presence and they are trying to use fire ordinances to get rid of them.

  29. https://www.cyberguerrilla.org/blog/operation-integrity-initiative-british-informational-war-against-all/

    tldr
    Britain used “Russian electoral interference” as an excuse to interfere directly in democratically elected governments, including dictating which ministers obtained which postings. More docs coming, Glenn Greenwald will probably be on top of this.

  30. @Stan
    Kristol is the real life Dr. Strangelove. Unfortunately nobody in the establishment has the courage to put him in a straitjacket and lock him in an asylum.

    You got that right. Ironically, in 1992 Billy Kristol started the GOP neocon charge to straitjacket Pat Buchanan and turn him into a laughingstock. Pat’s been vindicated many times over by Billy Kristol’s never ending disastrous & mass murdering schemes.

  31. @Daniel H
    Kristol is insane. I do not use that word lightly.

    Kristol is insane but anyone who listens to him is even more insane.

  32. Kristol’s thoughtless, offhanded comment about “regime change” in a nuclear-armed country of 1.3 billion people reminds me of the FREE TIBET bumper stickers the hippies and the stoners used to put on their Subarus (right next to the Grateful Dead stickers and the “Visualize Whirled Peas” stickers) back in the day. College towns used to be plastered with ‘em.

    Every time I’d see one of those I used to think “Free Tibet? Exactly how are we gonna do that, Slick? Send the f–king Marines to invade China? Are you gonna be the first to cut your hair and enlist?”

    Virtue signaling has been around for a while…

    • Replies: @njguy73
    As Mark Steyn put it, if the U.S. did launch "Operation Tibetian Freedom," the hippies would peel the "FREE TIBET" stickers off their Priuses and replace it with "WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER."

    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/444532-everyone-s-for-a-free-tibet-but-no-one-s-for-freeing

    , @Ray Huffman
    Every time I’d see one of those I used to think “Free Tibet? Exactly how are we gonna do that, Slick?

    Non-violent resistance ala Ghandi and King, coupled with liberal fairy dust.
  33. @AnotherDad
    Allowing Kristol's ancestors into the US is the biggest damn fool mistake we've made.

    Most every idea of the founders--republican government, limited governemt, federalism, majority rule, traditional Anglo-Saxon liberties, avoiding foreign entanglements and most especially the whole "ourselves and our posterity" concept is an anathema to them.

    Constantly twitching and yapping ... churning out one asinine idea after another.

    BTW, the Chinese probably could use–definitely in the long run–some regime change.

    But that’s for the Chinese to work out–not us.

    And one reason that the Chinese Communist Party–and more broadly the Chinese business and middle classes– haven’t been chomping at the bit for political reform/liberalization is no doubt the appalling performance of Western liberal elites this past generation:

    – Destabilizing utopian economic projects–the Euro
    – Allowing muslim encroachment and terrorism
    – Expensive utopian “nation building” wars
    – Encouraging minority debt fueled housing asset price bubble creating financial crisis
    and most of all
    – Utopian “nation of immigrants” and “refugees!” open borderism and creating massive (low IQ and hostile) demographic change.

    The common thread here is leftist pie in the sky “everyone is the same” or “everyone can be an American” blank slatism. Call it Lewontinism or Kristolization.

    And no one actually thinking–rather than emoting–and certainly not the Chinese would look at the performance of these Western “elites” and think “oh yeah, we want to copy those guys!”

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    If that were true, the Chinese wouldn't be sending their kids to our universities and having anchor babies here. They are not totalitarians because of the West's embrace of liberalism, they are totalitarians because the CCP is full of corrupt, self-serving people.

    As I mentioned on iSteve before, the threat from a small population of low-IQ dirt farmers is entirely different from the threat from a huge population of high-IQ industrialists. Just because neo-cons are against China doesn't mean that Americans shouldn't be alarmed by the fact that the Chinese state is acting aggressive abroad and repressive at home while their economy and state of science infrsstructure is improving.

    What we really want is for China to disintegrate into multiple ethnic states.

    10 years ago, the US should have abandoned the Middle East and adopted a policy of sea and air dominance in East Asia along with economic sanctions and embargoes. We could have let "regime change" there happen on its own without a boot on the ground. Now, it's probably too late to do anything but pray that the Chinese people somehow overthrow their own government.
    , @Achmed E. Newman

    And no one actually thinking–rather than emoting–and certainly not the Chinese would look at the performance of these Western “elites” and think “oh yeah, we want to copy those guys!”
     
    That's a hell of a good point. The only thing at this point that the young Chinese know the West has given the world is McDonalds and the Old Guy on the KFC sign, who they probably think of in the same way as we do regarding General Tsao.

    Can you imagine how some of the now-late-40, early-50 y/o Chinamen feel about their participation in, and survival of, that almost 3 decade ago big pro-democracy protest in downtown Peking? Many of them, even though they survived it, had plenty of repercussions on their schooling and careers due to that, along with their long-dead friends. "What were we demonstrating for?!" they might well think today. "I can't remember why we ever looked up to the West?", and "What the hell was I thinking?" are probably their thoughts.

    It's very similar to those Americans who fought in WWII or in Cold War hot spots - "what was the point of all that, when I look at my country now?"
  34. @Anonymous
    He should go over there to subvert their power structure and screw over their people.

    >He should go over there to subvert their power structure and screw over their people.

    As is presently being done in Germany. ‘Tis the season after all:

    https://www.france24.com/en/20181123-berlin-man-95-charged-over-36000-deaths-nazi-camp

    • Replies: @Jack D
    How does trying actual Nazi war criminals do that?
    , @El Dato
    Sorry to potentially offend but are we sure this isn't some kind of French Onion?

    https://www.france24.com/en/eye-africa/20181123-2018-11-23-2247-eye-africa-benin-art-france-drcongo-zambia-culture

    I have seen better artwork from a high school workshop.

    Maybe Zambia was always riven by war and people just had a few hours to finish the art thing before getting into the next battle?

    , @RVBlake
    Those German prosecutors need to mach schnell and nail those old-timers before they croak and thwart justice.
  35. There are atleat 3 possible governments in waiting that could replace the ‘Beijing regime’. Taiwan, Singapore, or Hong Kong.

  36. The problem with Chinese regime change is that one hour later Bill Kristol is regime-change hungry again.

    • Disagree: Dtbb
    • Replies: @Dtbb
    Oops. Meant to LOL.
    , @dvorak

    The problem with Chinese regime change is that one hour later Bill Kristol is regime-change hungry again.
     
    Well done!
    , @BigDickNick
    Kristol is the Joey Chestnut of regimes
  37. Sheldon Adelson publicly advocated for dropping an atom bomb in the Iranian desert, though in an uninhabited part, to convince them to do as we say. Yet he is still considered someone in good graces with the establishment and is treated as such.

    Bill Kristol has a track record of backing costly wars that is too long to list. Yet he is still considered someone in good graces with the establishment. Now he recommends the US attempt regime change of the nation with both the largest GDP and population. A nation that can increasingly stand up to the USA militarily especially in areas close to its borders.

    Not mentioned here are other obvious hurdles such as all the trade relationships we share, and in some cases have become depended upon due to Kristol’s advice on free trade.

    Additionally we have millions of Chinese citizens coming and going each year and steadily increasing the Chinese population in the US partly due to Kristol’s insistence that the right to come to America is written in stone or on some statue. What does he think these millions of Chinese in America are going to do when he starts messing around with their homeland?

    Yet Kristol will not lose his status and will still be invited on TV shows and be considered a legitimate voice of public debate.

    Meanwhile people who question the wisdom of putting women in the infantry, or not allowing men to use the woman’s bathroom are treated as out of the mainstream and are lucky to keep their jobs.

    At this state I am ready to suggest that if any nation needs regime change, it is the USA. And I am not referring to Trump. Obviously his election and the fact that he has been blocked from doing most of the things he promised is enough proof that the regime is not in the form of the Presidency. We need a true cleansing. Oddly during the 2016 campaign, I was so focused on the border and immigration, that I never paid attention to the “drain the swamp” chants at Trump rallies. The more I think about it, “drain the swamp” is arguably the most important thing after immigration. But then again, maybe the swamp must be drained before we can seriously address immigration.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Sheldon Adelson publicly advocated for dropping an atom bomb in the Iranian desert, though in an uninhabited part, to convince them to do as we say.

    What a guy. The thing he's invoking was a proposal for Imperial Japan, and the point wasn't dominance, it was convincing the Japanese that the weapon existed without killing anyone. Because at that point the existence of a viable a-bomb was not a widely accepted fact. Does he think Iran doesn't know what nukes are?
    Iran was under much more direct control multiple times and ways. They endured horrifying struggle, like the Dutch extracting themselves from the Spanish, and for much the same reasons. Not just house to house fighting but room by room. How is death supposed to intimidate them?
    What is it in the characters of certain people that they keep letting slip this mask, they keep revealing that they see themselves as a master race petting the head of a good farm animal and culling the farm animal that shows any sign of breaking its domestication?
    , @Bubba

    Sheldon Adelson publicly advocated for dropping an atom bomb in the Iranian desert, though in an uninhabited part, to convince them to do as we say.
     
    A little OT to your comment, but as soon as I read Sheldon Adelson's name I think of this:

    "Serpantine Sheldon! Serpentine!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_w-QCWpS0
    , @Anonymous
    Revoking the right to hold US citizenship as a dual citizenship with another country would be a step in the right direction. Many countries do not allow dual citizenship. There'd be fierce resistance, but in the end, passing it would force people to put up or shut up- either commit to this country as their country, or leave. Either way would be a win win for us.
  38. The man is truly a psychopath.

    Or on second thought, maybe there is something to this idea of his. First thing we need to do is establish an advance party somewhere deep in Shanghai. Who better to send than Kristol, Jpod, Lowrey, Goldberg, Boot, and Tyrion 2 to set up operations by getting some big time Chinese donors to finance an unprofitable magazine pretending to purvey sensible viewpoints?

    The could call it The People’s Review Online, roundeye!

  39. @Cagey Beast
    I'll go further and say Jewish Emancipation was the biggest mistake the West made since the French Revolution, apart from the two world wars.

    Wow, hard to top that but I know someone here soon will.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    You're welcome to offer a counter.
  40. @istevefan
    Sheldon Adelson publicly advocated for dropping an atom bomb in the Iranian desert, though in an uninhabited part, to convince them to do as we say. Yet he is still considered someone in good graces with the establishment and is treated as such.

    Bill Kristol has a track record of backing costly wars that is too long to list. Yet he is still considered someone in good graces with the establishment. Now he recommends the US attempt regime change of the nation with both the largest GDP and population. A nation that can increasingly stand up to the USA militarily especially in areas close to its borders.

    Not mentioned here are other obvious hurdles such as all the trade relationships we share, and in some cases have become depended upon due to Kristol's advice on free trade.

    Additionally we have millions of Chinese citizens coming and going each year and steadily increasing the Chinese population in the US partly due to Kristol's insistence that the right to come to America is written in stone or on some statue. What does he think these millions of Chinese in America are going to do when he starts messing around with their homeland?

    Yet Kristol will not lose his status and will still be invited on TV shows and be considered a legitimate voice of public debate.

    Meanwhile people who question the wisdom of putting women in the infantry, or not allowing men to use the woman's bathroom are treated as out of the mainstream and are lucky to keep their jobs.

    At this state I am ready to suggest that if any nation needs regime change, it is the USA. And I am not referring to Trump. Obviously his election and the fact that he has been blocked from doing most of the things he promised is enough proof that the regime is not in the form of the Presidency. We need a true cleansing. Oddly during the 2016 campaign, I was so focused on the border and immigration, that I never paid attention to the "drain the swamp" chants at Trump rallies. The more I think about it, "drain the swamp" is arguably the most important thing after immigration. But then again, maybe the swamp must be drained before we can seriously address immigration.

    Sheldon Adelson publicly advocated for dropping an atom bomb in the Iranian desert, though in an uninhabited part, to convince them to do as we say.

    What a guy. The thing he’s invoking was a proposal for Imperial Japan, and the point wasn’t dominance, it was convincing the Japanese that the weapon existed without killing anyone. Because at that point the existence of a viable a-bomb was not a widely accepted fact. Does he think Iran doesn’t know what nukes are?
    Iran was under much more direct control multiple times and ways. They endured horrifying struggle, like the Dutch extracting themselves from the Spanish, and for much the same reasons. Not just house to house fighting but room by room. How is death supposed to intimidate them?
    What is it in the characters of certain people that they keep letting slip this mask, they keep revealing that they see themselves as a master race petting the head of a good farm animal and culling the farm animal that shows any sign of breaking its domestication?

  41. Simply has it ever occurred to Kristol how many million men the Red Chinese can put in the field with servicable weapons. In a career filled with bad ideas, this could be Kristol’s worst idea yet. And why is is after everything else that’s gone wrong the neocon mind refuses to grasp there is not an American heart in every other human on this planet; let them be. Culture matters, and not everyone wants to be American.

    • Replies: @Bubba
    Indeed - my late father would have loved to lecture & lampoon the historically inept and know-it-all Billy Kristol on the Yalu River disaster during the disastrous Korean War. He narrowly survived the attacking waves upon waves of Chinese soldiers while his fellow soldiers were slaughtered or injured and he could not help them. He had terrible nightmares every few months for the rest of his life.
  42. At least Kristol’s son practiced what his father preaches and served a tour in Afghanistan with the Marines, contra David Brooks’s issue. (Whether Kristol fils served an Al Gore-style tour, protected from on high, is unclear.)

  43. @James N. Kennett
    OT: Jewish leaders call for new editions of the Bible and the Koran to carry trigger warnings highlighting anti-Semitic passages

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6421233/Jewish-leaders-call-religious-texts-carry-warnings-highlighting-anti-Semitic-passages.html


    The document reads: 'Translations of the New Testament, the Qur’an and other Christian or Muslim literatures need marginal glosses, and introductions that emphasize continuity with Jewish heritage of both Christianity and Islam and warn readers about antisemitic passages in them.
     
    There is no proposal for marginal glosses for the anti-Gentilic passages in the Hebrew Bible or the Talmud; or for introductions to point out the elements of Judaism that have continuity with ancient Babylonian, Persian, or Egyptian beliefs. Surely these are equally important?

    Just ignore them. They always go for this kooky stuff.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    We can ignore them, but the people wearing the dead skin suits of our mainline Churches demonstrably do not ignore them.
  44. @Anonymous
    He should go over there to subvert their power structure and screw over their people.

    He should go over there to subvert their power structure and screw over their people.

    Sending Kristol to China? OK, now you’re getting dangerously close to the international definition of “human rights violations.”

  45. @istevefan
    Sheldon Adelson publicly advocated for dropping an atom bomb in the Iranian desert, though in an uninhabited part, to convince them to do as we say. Yet he is still considered someone in good graces with the establishment and is treated as such.

    Bill Kristol has a track record of backing costly wars that is too long to list. Yet he is still considered someone in good graces with the establishment. Now he recommends the US attempt regime change of the nation with both the largest GDP and population. A nation that can increasingly stand up to the USA militarily especially in areas close to its borders.

    Not mentioned here are other obvious hurdles such as all the trade relationships we share, and in some cases have become depended upon due to Kristol's advice on free trade.

    Additionally we have millions of Chinese citizens coming and going each year and steadily increasing the Chinese population in the US partly due to Kristol's insistence that the right to come to America is written in stone or on some statue. What does he think these millions of Chinese in America are going to do when he starts messing around with their homeland?

    Yet Kristol will not lose his status and will still be invited on TV shows and be considered a legitimate voice of public debate.

    Meanwhile people who question the wisdom of putting women in the infantry, or not allowing men to use the woman's bathroom are treated as out of the mainstream and are lucky to keep their jobs.

    At this state I am ready to suggest that if any nation needs regime change, it is the USA. And I am not referring to Trump. Obviously his election and the fact that he has been blocked from doing most of the things he promised is enough proof that the regime is not in the form of the Presidency. We need a true cleansing. Oddly during the 2016 campaign, I was so focused on the border and immigration, that I never paid attention to the "drain the swamp" chants at Trump rallies. The more I think about it, "drain the swamp" is arguably the most important thing after immigration. But then again, maybe the swamp must be drained before we can seriously address immigration.

    Sheldon Adelson publicly advocated for dropping an atom bomb in the Iranian desert, though in an uninhabited part, to convince them to do as we say.

    A little OT to your comment, but as soon as I read Sheldon Adelson’s name I think of this:

    “Serpantine Sheldon! Serpentine!”

    • Replies: @anon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdaQHTWT_ZI
  46. @AnotherDad
    Allowing Kristol's ancestors into the US is the biggest damn fool mistake we've made.

    Most every idea of the founders--republican government, limited governemt, federalism, majority rule, traditional Anglo-Saxon liberties, avoiding foreign entanglements and most especially the whole "ourselves and our posterity" concept is an anathema to them.

    Constantly twitching and yapping ... churning out one asinine idea after another.

    Little more than a generation after being let into the United States in large numbers their influence was such that they were successful in dragging the country into The First World War.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    Emblematic wrote:

    Little more than a generation after being let into the United States in large numbers their influence was such that [American Jews] were successful in dragging the country into The First World War.
     
    Is tha true? My impresssion was that Jews in general did not have a big problem with the Kaiser's regime. Indeed, the big boosters for US involvement in WW I seem to have been the Morgan interests (who were financially tied to the Alies) and more than a few crazy Old Stock Americans exemplified (and unintentionally parodied) by Teddy Roosevelt. (TR wanted to lead a gaggle of geezers to Europe to fight the Kaiser. Sadly, Woodrow Wilson forbade it.)
  47. @Dr. X
    Kristol's thoughtless, offhanded comment about "regime change" in a nuclear-armed country of 1.3 billion people reminds me of the FREE TIBET bumper stickers the hippies and the stoners used to put on their Subarus (right next to the Grateful Dead stickers and the "Visualize Whirled Peas" stickers) back in the day. College towns used to be plastered with 'em.

    Every time I'd see one of those I used to think "Free Tibet? Exactly how are we gonna do that, Slick? Send the f--king Marines to invade China? Are you gonna be the first to cut your hair and enlist?"

    Virtue signaling has been around for a while...

    As Mark Steyn put it, if the U.S. did launch “Operation Tibetian Freedom,” the hippies would peel the “FREE TIBET” stickers off their Priuses and replace it with “WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER.”

    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/444532-everyone-s-for-a-free-tibet-but-no-one-s-for-freeing

    • Replies: @South Texas Guy
    Yep. In her only (to my knowledge) appearance on The Tonight Show, Mavis Leno, Jay's wife and a lefty to the left of Trotsky, I hear, was there to speak out against the Taliban in Afghanistan. My how 20 years changes the left. Hated by lefties two decades ago for subjugating women (even worse than Americans currently do), now Islam fundies are just the oppressed yearning to be free.
  48. @Cagey Beast
    I'll go further and say Jewish Emancipation was the biggest mistake the West made since the French Revolution, apart from the two world wars.

    The odious Oliver Cromwell’s decision to reverse the Edict of Expulsion was a preceding mistake of significant magnitude. One good thing I’ll say about Edward I, the Longshanks, the Hammer of the Scots, is that he chose his indigenous poor over the usurers, factors, and tax farmers who conspired with England’s nobles to squeeze the peasantry.

    Cf. Joseph in Egypt, Daniel in Babylon, etc. Helping exploitative elites further exploit is the Tribe’s most ancient trade.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    He was also WELSHing on making debt payments to the Red Sea Pedestrians.;)
  49. When is Charles Murray going to realize the youthful Ivy League experience of Jews as The Ascendant Race is no longer worth the damage it’s doing to his legacy?

    • LOL: Bubba
    • Replies: @Bubba
    And agree...
  50. What I want to know is why Kristol chooses to use such an excruciatingly smug photo as his avatar. Hasn’t anyone told him it makes him look like a conceited asshole? It’s almost like he’s being deliberately in-your-face about it!

  51. @AnotherDad
    BTW, the Chinese probably could use--definitely in the long run--some regime change.

    But that's for the Chinese to work out--not us.

    And one reason that the Chinese Communist Party--and more broadly the Chinese business and middle classes-- haven't been chomping at the bit for political reform/liberalization is no doubt the appalling performance of Western liberal elites this past generation:

    -- Destabilizing utopian economic projects--the Euro
    -- Allowing muslim encroachment and terrorism
    -- Expensive utopian "nation building" wars
    -- Encouraging minority debt fueled housing asset price bubble creating financial crisis
    and most of all
    -- Utopian "nation of immigrants" and "refugees!" open borderism and creating massive (low IQ and hostile) demographic change.

    The common thread here is leftist pie in the sky "everyone is the same" or "everyone can be an American" blank slatism. Call it Lewontinism or Kristolization.

    And no one actually thinking--rather than emoting--and certainly not the Chinese would look at the performance of these Western "elites" and think "oh yeah, we want to copy those guys!"

    If that were true, the Chinese wouldn’t be sending their kids to our universities and having anchor babies here. They are not totalitarians because of the West’s embrace of liberalism, they are totalitarians because the CCP is full of corrupt, self-serving people.

    As I mentioned on iSteve before, the threat from a small population of low-IQ dirt farmers is entirely different from the threat from a huge population of high-IQ industrialists. Just because neo-cons are against China doesn’t mean that Americans shouldn’t be alarmed by the fact that the Chinese state is acting aggressive abroad and repressive at home while their economy and state of science infrsstructure is improving.

    What we really want is for China to disintegrate into multiple ethnic states.

    10 years ago, the US should have abandoned the Middle East and adopted a policy of sea and air dominance in East Asia along with economic sanctions and embargoes. We could have let “regime change” there happen on its own without a boot on the ground. Now, it’s probably too late to do anything but pray that the Chinese people somehow overthrow their own government.

    • Replies: @anon
    Actually if the USA had a rational foreign policy it would have no serious problem with China.
    , @inertial
    What you describe is what Kristol wants to do with China, most likely. Everyone here assumes that he wants to bomb them or something, but even Kristol is not that crazy. He want the old fashioned containment/undermining policy that he thinks worked against the Soviet Union.

    Or perhaps he doesn't even go that far. It's possible that he merely want the US Government to virtue signal by giving the Chinese periodic Stern Lectures. People in his circle certainly believe that Talking Tough is a legitimate foreign policy.
    , @Twinkie

    They are not totalitarians because of the West’s embrace of liberalism, they are totalitarians because the CCP is full of corrupt, self-serving people.
     
    I’m pretty anti-China, primarily because it is an emerging strategic competitor to my country, the U.S., but...

    1. China is not totalitarian. It’s authoritarian. There is a pretty big difference.

    2. The CCP may be full of corrupt, self-serving people, but the leadership class of China has raised enormously the living standards of the Chinese people in the past 30 years. The Mandate of Heaven and all that. They are keenly aware that their continued rule depends in large measure on the growing prosperity and stability of the Chinese people. Can we say the same of OUR leadership class in the United States?
    , @dfordoom

    What we really want is for China to disintegrate into multiple ethnic states.
     
    What we really really need is for the United States to disintegrate into multiple mini-states.

    China is not the problem.
    , @Felix....
    I would have no problem with this strategy if the United States government was controlled by the majority population of the United States, namely white goys. However, the United States government is at this stage simply a vehicle for Jewish ambition, particularly in the realm of foreign policy.

    If American interference in China led to white goys such as myself ruling over 1.3 billion Chinese and enjoying the hospitality of their females, I'd be 1000% for it. It is the wish of every non-cucked red blooded man to conquer foreign lands and enjoy the spoils of conquest. On the other hand, I have no wish to see the money, lives, and resources of white goys channeled for the purpose of installing Jews as the ruling class of China, which is what would actually happen if your "American" foreign policy objectives regarding China were completely realized.

    To summarize my stance on the Chinese question in descending order of favored outcomes:

    1) White goys rule China
    2) The Chinese rule China
    .....
    .....
    3)Kristol's tribe that hates people like me uses the resources of people like me to rule China. Would be literal cuckoldry.
  52. • Replies: @Whiskey
    Ding ding ding you have found Kristols new sugar daddy.

    People including Steve are over thinking this. Kristol will write whatever he's paid. His sugar daddy wants to replace Xi as Emperor. Simple add that.

    Only an idiot would pay Kristol. Young Thug has more influence.
  53. @Garlic
    The problem with Chinese regime change is that one hour later Bill Kristol is regime-change hungry again.

    Oops. Meant to LOL.

  54. @Bubba

    Sheldon Adelson publicly advocated for dropping an atom bomb in the Iranian desert, though in an uninhabited part, to convince them to do as we say.
     
    A little OT to your comment, but as soon as I read Sheldon Adelson's name I think of this:

    "Serpantine Sheldon! Serpentine!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_w-QCWpS0

    • Replies: @Bubba
    Thanks for that - LOL!
  55. What about regime change at The Weekly Standard?

  56. @Bugg
    Simply has it ever occurred to Kristol how many million men the Red Chinese can put in the field with servicable weapons. In a career filled with bad ideas, this could be Kristol's worst idea yet. And why is is after everything else that's gone wrong the neocon mind refuses to grasp there is not an American heart in every other human on this planet; let them be. Culture matters, and not everyone wants to be American.

    Indeed – my late father would have loved to lecture & lampoon the historically inept and know-it-all Billy Kristol on the Yalu River disaster during the disastrous Korean War. He narrowly survived the attacking waves upon waves of Chinese soldiers while his fellow soldiers were slaughtered or injured and he could not help them. He had terrible nightmares every few months for the rest of his life.

  57. @Garlic
    The problem with Chinese regime change is that one hour later Bill Kristol is regime-change hungry again.

    The problem with Chinese regime change is that one hour later Bill Kristol is regime-change hungry again.

    Well done!

  58. @Cagey Beast
    I'll go further and say Jewish Emancipation was the biggest mistake the West made since the French Revolution, apart from the two world wars.

    The two world wars were the same mistake….

  59. @Cagey Beast
    I'll go further and say Jewish Emancipation was the biggest mistake the West made since the French Revolution, apart from the two world wars.

    Scorpion and the Frog

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
  60. Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan
    Sheldon Adelson publicly advocated for dropping an atom bomb in the Iranian desert, though in an uninhabited part, to convince them to do as we say. Yet he is still considered someone in good graces with the establishment and is treated as such.

    Bill Kristol has a track record of backing costly wars that is too long to list. Yet he is still considered someone in good graces with the establishment. Now he recommends the US attempt regime change of the nation with both the largest GDP and population. A nation that can increasingly stand up to the USA militarily especially in areas close to its borders.

    Not mentioned here are other obvious hurdles such as all the trade relationships we share, and in some cases have become depended upon due to Kristol's advice on free trade.

    Additionally we have millions of Chinese citizens coming and going each year and steadily increasing the Chinese population in the US partly due to Kristol's insistence that the right to come to America is written in stone or on some statue. What does he think these millions of Chinese in America are going to do when he starts messing around with their homeland?

    Yet Kristol will not lose his status and will still be invited on TV shows and be considered a legitimate voice of public debate.

    Meanwhile people who question the wisdom of putting women in the infantry, or not allowing men to use the woman's bathroom are treated as out of the mainstream and are lucky to keep their jobs.

    At this state I am ready to suggest that if any nation needs regime change, it is the USA. And I am not referring to Trump. Obviously his election and the fact that he has been blocked from doing most of the things he promised is enough proof that the regime is not in the form of the Presidency. We need a true cleansing. Oddly during the 2016 campaign, I was so focused on the border and immigration, that I never paid attention to the "drain the swamp" chants at Trump rallies. The more I think about it, "drain the swamp" is arguably the most important thing after immigration. But then again, maybe the swamp must be drained before we can seriously address immigration.

    Revoking the right to hold US citizenship as a dual citizenship with another country would be a step in the right direction. Many countries do not allow dual citizenship. There’d be fierce resistance, but in the end, passing it would force people to put up or shut up- either commit to this country as their country, or leave. Either way would be a win win for us.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    Hear hear!
  61. @Chrisnonymous
    If that were true, the Chinese wouldn't be sending their kids to our universities and having anchor babies here. They are not totalitarians because of the West's embrace of liberalism, they are totalitarians because the CCP is full of corrupt, self-serving people.

    As I mentioned on iSteve before, the threat from a small population of low-IQ dirt farmers is entirely different from the threat from a huge population of high-IQ industrialists. Just because neo-cons are against China doesn't mean that Americans shouldn't be alarmed by the fact that the Chinese state is acting aggressive abroad and repressive at home while their economy and state of science infrsstructure is improving.

    What we really want is for China to disintegrate into multiple ethnic states.

    10 years ago, the US should have abandoned the Middle East and adopted a policy of sea and air dominance in East Asia along with economic sanctions and embargoes. We could have let "regime change" there happen on its own without a boot on the ground. Now, it's probably too late to do anything but pray that the Chinese people somehow overthrow their own government.

    Actually if the USA had a rational foreign policy it would have no serious problem with China.

  62. @Chrisnonymous
    If that were true, the Chinese wouldn't be sending their kids to our universities and having anchor babies here. They are not totalitarians because of the West's embrace of liberalism, they are totalitarians because the CCP is full of corrupt, self-serving people.

    As I mentioned on iSteve before, the threat from a small population of low-IQ dirt farmers is entirely different from the threat from a huge population of high-IQ industrialists. Just because neo-cons are against China doesn't mean that Americans shouldn't be alarmed by the fact that the Chinese state is acting aggressive abroad and repressive at home while their economy and state of science infrsstructure is improving.

    What we really want is for China to disintegrate into multiple ethnic states.

    10 years ago, the US should have abandoned the Middle East and adopted a policy of sea and air dominance in East Asia along with economic sanctions and embargoes. We could have let "regime change" there happen on its own without a boot on the ground. Now, it's probably too late to do anything but pray that the Chinese people somehow overthrow their own government.

    What you describe is what Kristol wants to do with China, most likely. Everyone here assumes that he wants to bomb them or something, but even Kristol is not that crazy. He want the old fashioned containment/undermining policy that he thinks worked against the Soviet Union.

    Or perhaps he doesn’t even go that far. It’s possible that he merely want the US Government to virtue signal by giving the Chinese periodic Stern Lectures. People in his circle certainly believe that Talking Tough is a legitimate foreign policy.

  63. @James Bowery
    When is Charles Murray going to realize the youthful Ivy League experience of Jews as The Ascendant Race is no longer worth the damage it's doing to his legacy?

    And agree…

  64. @njguy73
    As Mark Steyn put it, if the U.S. did launch "Operation Tibetian Freedom," the hippies would peel the "FREE TIBET" stickers off their Priuses and replace it with "WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER."

    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/444532-everyone-s-for-a-free-tibet-but-no-one-s-for-freeing

    Yep. In her only (to my knowledge) appearance on The Tonight Show, Mavis Leno, Jay’s wife and a lefty to the left of Trotsky, I hear, was there to speak out against the Taliban in Afghanistan. My how 20 years changes the left. Hated by lefties two decades ago for subjugating women (even worse than Americans currently do), now Islam fundies are just the oppressed yearning to be free.

  65. @Alice
    Guo Wengui seems to be who Bill Kristol's been talking to.

    https://freebeacon.com/national-security/chinese-billionaire-create-100-million-fund-aid-victims-communist-purge/

    Ding ding ding you have found Kristols new sugar daddy.

    People including Steve are over thinking this. Kristol will write whatever he’s paid. His sugar daddy wants to replace Xi as Emperor. Simple add that.

    Only an idiot would pay Kristol. Young Thug has more influence.

  66. Here’s an idea: We’ll outspend them!

    We’ll come up with a far out, science fiction proposal that will frighten them into thinking that they have to keep up.

    Let’s call it “Space Force!” That’ll scare ‘em. They’ll think of space ships and laser beams, like in the movies.

    Then they’ll try to negotiate us into giving that up, but we will refuse, and they will go broke and fall apart. The Great Wall will come down (while we build ours). Eventually we’ll rename Dulles Airport after Trump.

    Oh, wait. We’re the ones who are broke this time.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  67. This is just a bit of misdirection psyops by Kristol. He doesn’t really care about China or how great it would be for the US if China turned into something else. What he wants to convey is “See, I don’t just want to screw things up when they directly relate negatively to Israeli hegemony, but I want to screw things up more generally. It’s not all about Israel!”

    • Replies: @neutral

    It’s not all about Israel
     
    This China regime change thing is really ALL about Israel. You see if the USA starts being overtaken in power status that means Israel also starts losing its power.
  68. @anon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdaQHTWT_ZI

    Thanks for that – LOL!

  69. This is total and utter bullshit.

    I’ve worked in the film/tv industry for over 30 years at the set level, which means actually being there when the films are being made, not sitting in an office in Hollywood.

    First of all, a crew member would never be involved with helping an actor in snatching young actors for nefarious acts. It just doesn’t happen. There is a very wide divide between cast and crew; crew are full time professionals there to do this job and then move to the next job.

    Cast are there because this is their big chance( for a new talent) or folks who are so isolated from the crew that they never actually interact with them.

    There is not a single benefit for crew to help some pervert actor, unless they too are perverts, and that is a very small possibility.

    What is more likely; a usually quite conservative hardworking family type crew member, or a narcissistic, often homosexual, attention whore as being the author of bad intentions?

    • Replies: @black sea
    Uhh . . . Right . . .

    I think you need to go back to pretending to be a public school teacher who -- out of bitter and unrelenting sexual frustration -- obsessively urges his white female students to couple with MEN OF COLOR.

    You might also want to consult the topic of the thread before posting someone else's comment copied from some other website, about an entirely different issue.

    , @TWS
    Hey, 'Roy' did you forget who were pretending to be today? Who knew you read Vox Day? Priceless. You've always been a phoney but it's fun to find you elsewhere trolling. Last time I caught you copy pasting was from the NY Times. That time you pretended to be a girl. I guess it's funnier to pretend you're not gay!
  70. @International Jew
    Wow, hard to top that but I know someone here soon will.

    You’re welcome to offer a counter.

  71. I guess this means that China is a threat to Israel.

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    Of course that's what it means, and of course it is.

    They think ahead, those Jews (which is not a criticism; I only wish that we were as capable of looking out for ourselves).
  72. @Reg Cæsar

    All you need to do is to find the lost Tomb of Genghis Khan …
     
    Or one of his billion living descendants. There must be a pretender on every corner.

    Or one of his billion living descendants. There must be a pretender on every corner.

    I’m 10% Mongolian according to DNA Land. Does that count?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Governor-General of North Korea Twinkie!;)
  73. @James N. Kennett
    OT: Jewish leaders call for new editions of the Bible and the Koran to carry trigger warnings highlighting anti-Semitic passages

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6421233/Jewish-leaders-call-religious-texts-carry-warnings-highlighting-anti-Semitic-passages.html


    The document reads: 'Translations of the New Testament, the Qur’an and other Christian or Muslim literatures need marginal glosses, and introductions that emphasize continuity with Jewish heritage of both Christianity and Islam and warn readers about antisemitic passages in them.
     
    There is no proposal for marginal glosses for the anti-Gentilic passages in the Hebrew Bible or the Talmud; or for introductions to point out the elements of Judaism that have continuity with ancient Babylonian, Persian, or Egyptian beliefs. Surely these are equally important?

    Thanks to Jewish agitation and meddling in MY religion, I am no longer allowed to pray for their conversion during Mass. Not that I wish to meddle in theirs, but I have a feeling I’d be denounced as an anti-Semite if I were to seek reciprocity.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    Well, we don't pray for your conversion. Never did in fact. There's your reciprocity.
    , @Max Rancourt

    Thanks to Jewish agitation and meddling in MY religion, I am no longer allowed to pray for their conversion during Mass. Not that I wish to meddle in theirs, but I have a feeling I’d be denounced as an anti-Semite if I were to seek reciprocity.
     
    Not just during Mass but in general ‘the prayer for conversion of the Jews’ was made non-kosher. But a Jewish convert to Catholicism, Roy Schoeman, always includes it in his talks.

    https://youtu.be/WeDzSfquYcs
  74. @Jason Liu
    What is with these people and regime change?

    "Everyone mind your own damn business" should be the gold standard for 21st century diplomacy

    “Everyone mind your own damn business” should be the gold standard for 21st century diplomacy

    That’s called the Treaties of Westphalia.

  75. @Chrisnonymous
    If that were true, the Chinese wouldn't be sending their kids to our universities and having anchor babies here. They are not totalitarians because of the West's embrace of liberalism, they are totalitarians because the CCP is full of corrupt, self-serving people.

    As I mentioned on iSteve before, the threat from a small population of low-IQ dirt farmers is entirely different from the threat from a huge population of high-IQ industrialists. Just because neo-cons are against China doesn't mean that Americans shouldn't be alarmed by the fact that the Chinese state is acting aggressive abroad and repressive at home while their economy and state of science infrsstructure is improving.

    What we really want is for China to disintegrate into multiple ethnic states.

    10 years ago, the US should have abandoned the Middle East and adopted a policy of sea and air dominance in East Asia along with economic sanctions and embargoes. We could have let "regime change" there happen on its own without a boot on the ground. Now, it's probably too late to do anything but pray that the Chinese people somehow overthrow their own government.

    They are not totalitarians because of the West’s embrace of liberalism, they are totalitarians because the CCP is full of corrupt, self-serving people.

    I’m pretty anti-China, primarily because it is an emerging strategic competitor to my country, the U.S., but…

    1. China is not totalitarian. It’s authoritarian. There is a pretty big difference.

    2. The CCP may be full of corrupt, self-serving people, but the leadership class of China has raised enormously the living standards of the Chinese people in the past 30 years. The Mandate of Heaven and all that. They are keenly aware that their continued rule depends in large measure on the growing prosperity and stability of the Chinese people. Can we say the same of OUR leadership class in the United States?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Define American people. I suspect that most of the country no longer is considered real Americans by the elite.
  76. @Anonymous
    Revoking the right to hold US citizenship as a dual citizenship with another country would be a step in the right direction. Many countries do not allow dual citizenship. There'd be fierce resistance, but in the end, passing it would force people to put up or shut up- either commit to this country as their country, or leave. Either way would be a win win for us.

    Hear hear!

  77. @Chrisnonymous
    If that were true, the Chinese wouldn't be sending their kids to our universities and having anchor babies here. They are not totalitarians because of the West's embrace of liberalism, they are totalitarians because the CCP is full of corrupt, self-serving people.

    As I mentioned on iSteve before, the threat from a small population of low-IQ dirt farmers is entirely different from the threat from a huge population of high-IQ industrialists. Just because neo-cons are against China doesn't mean that Americans shouldn't be alarmed by the fact that the Chinese state is acting aggressive abroad and repressive at home while their economy and state of science infrsstructure is improving.

    What we really want is for China to disintegrate into multiple ethnic states.

    10 years ago, the US should have abandoned the Middle East and adopted a policy of sea and air dominance in East Asia along with economic sanctions and embargoes. We could have let "regime change" there happen on its own without a boot on the ground. Now, it's probably too late to do anything but pray that the Chinese people somehow overthrow their own government.

    What we really want is for China to disintegrate into multiple ethnic states.

    What we really really need is for the United States to disintegrate into multiple mini-states.

    China is not the problem.

  78. @Chrisnonymous
    If that were true, the Chinese wouldn't be sending their kids to our universities and having anchor babies here. They are not totalitarians because of the West's embrace of liberalism, they are totalitarians because the CCP is full of corrupt, self-serving people.

    As I mentioned on iSteve before, the threat from a small population of low-IQ dirt farmers is entirely different from the threat from a huge population of high-IQ industrialists. Just because neo-cons are against China doesn't mean that Americans shouldn't be alarmed by the fact that the Chinese state is acting aggressive abroad and repressive at home while their economy and state of science infrsstructure is improving.

    What we really want is for China to disintegrate into multiple ethnic states.

    10 years ago, the US should have abandoned the Middle East and adopted a policy of sea and air dominance in East Asia along with economic sanctions and embargoes. We could have let "regime change" there happen on its own without a boot on the ground. Now, it's probably too late to do anything but pray that the Chinese people somehow overthrow their own government.

    I would have no problem with this strategy if the United States government was controlled by the majority population of the United States, namely white goys. However, the United States government is at this stage simply a vehicle for Jewish ambition, particularly in the realm of foreign policy.

    If American interference in China led to white goys such as myself ruling over 1.3 billion Chinese and enjoying the hospitality of their females, I’d be 1000% for it. It is the wish of every non-cucked red blooded man to conquer foreign lands and enjoy the spoils of conquest. On the other hand, I have no wish to see the money, lives, and resources of white goys channeled for the purpose of installing Jews as the ruling class of China, which is what would actually happen if your “American” foreign policy objectives regarding China were completely realized.

    To summarize my stance on the Chinese question in descending order of favored outcomes:

    1) White goys rule China
    2) The Chinese rule China
    …..
    …..
    3)Kristol’s tribe that hates people like me uses the resources of people like me to rule China. Would be literal cuckoldry.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    What the hell is wrong with you? You're a psychopath.
  79. @AnotherDad
    Allowing Kristol's ancestors into the US is the biggest damn fool mistake we've made.

    Most every idea of the founders--republican government, limited governemt, federalism, majority rule, traditional Anglo-Saxon liberties, avoiding foreign entanglements and most especially the whole "ourselves and our posterity" concept is an anathema to them.

    Constantly twitching and yapping ... churning out one asinine idea after another.

    Constantly twitching and yapping … churning out one asinine idea after another.

    The problem isn’t Kristol. I can show you a dozen imbeciles yapping insane ideas hanging out with their shopping carts at the Ann Arbor Public Library any time of day or night. And a hundred more, no cleaner or better dressed but at least not homeless, inside the Library reading or browsing when it’s open.

    The problem is us.

    We pay attention to what this clown says. We pay for the privilege in our precious time, in ad revenues, newsprint, and cable tv or internet service charges. It very much looks to me like we approve of him. Nobody is coerced to read or listen to his ilk.

    What I want to know is whether someone like Kristol isn’t akin to a guy in the public square shouting that he loves to molest children. Kristol is demanding death and destruction on an epic scale. The left feels justified in exercising the mob veto of free speech over microaggressions, but we just peck out our frustrations on a keyboard or with our closest confidantes over a beer until some unhinged idiot vents his steam by shooting up a church or synagogue. We can’t even manage to boycott sportsball when sportsball affletes spit in our faces. Something has gone terribly wrong within us.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    We pay attention to what this clown says. We pay for the privilege in our precious time, in ad revenues, newsprint, and cable tv or internet service charges. It very much looks to me like we approve of him. Nobody is coerced to read or listen to his ilk.
     
    Whaddya mean WE, Kemosabe?

    GET OFF THE TV!

    [/former-commenter named Freddie on ZeroHedge]
    , @James N. Kennett

    The left feels justified in exercising the mob veto of free speech over microaggressions, but we just peck out our frustrations on a keyboard or with our closest confidantes over a beer
     
    This is a fair point.

    If a Nobel Prizewinning geneticist questions whether Africans are as intelligent as Europeans, he will lose his job and be permanently excluded from public life.

    If a respected and high-achieving economist suggests that there are multiple reasons why there are fewer women than men in STEM, and makes suggestions for improving women's representation, he will suffer the same fate.

    Yet if someone advocates the loss of American blood and treasure fighting a pointless war against a country that is not even an enemy, he is applauded. He is still applauded even after the war has been fought and has turned out badly. He is applauded even more when he proposes another war that also ends badly.

    In a just world, Bill Kristol and the other neocons would automatically be treated as pariahs, and would be socially and professionally excluded to an even greater extent than James Watson or Larry Summers.

  80. @Twinkie
    Thanks to Jewish agitation and meddling in MY religion, I am no longer allowed to pray for their conversion during Mass. Not that I wish to meddle in theirs, but I have a feeling I’d be denounced as an anti-Semite if I were to seek reciprocity.

    Well, we don’t pray for your conversion. Never did in fact. There’s your reciprocity.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    That's not the type of reciprocity he means. He means, when do we get to arrogantly, self-servingly interfere with YOUR liturgy the same way you arrogantly interfere with ours?

    (btw there is nothing hateful about the prayer "pro perfidiis judiis" : that idea stems from a linguistic misunderstanding, what the French call un faux-ami. In English, "perfidious" means treacherous, dishonest, disloyal. The "perfidiis" of the Church Latin means "without faith (in Christ)". Because, um, Christians actually do believe Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life -- and we want our Jewish brethren to share in that Life. How bigoted of us.)
    , @Desiderius
    The problem you’ve got is that your post-Jews have ganged up with our post-Christians to make conversion to Globohomocorpianty mandatory.

    And since most of the leading post-Jews are at the tip of the spear in media and the classroom, y’all are getting the lion’s share of the blame.

  81. Shouldn’t an important U.S. foreign policy goal of the next couple of decades be regime change in Israel?

  82. @James N. Kennett
    OT: Jewish leaders call for new editions of the Bible and the Koran to carry trigger warnings highlighting anti-Semitic passages

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6421233/Jewish-leaders-call-religious-texts-carry-warnings-highlighting-anti-Semitic-passages.html


    The document reads: 'Translations of the New Testament, the Qur’an and other Christian or Muslim literatures need marginal glosses, and introductions that emphasize continuity with Jewish heritage of both Christianity and Islam and warn readers about antisemitic passages in them.
     
    There is no proposal for marginal glosses for the anti-Gentilic passages in the Hebrew Bible or the Talmud; or for introductions to point out the elements of Judaism that have continuity with ancient Babylonian, Persian, or Egyptian beliefs. Surely these are equally important?

    OT: Jewish leaders call for new editions of the Bible and the Koran to carry trigger warnings highlighting anti-Semitic passages

    Yes, perhaps every anti-semitic passage should be clearly marked with a gold box. Just a thought.

  83. @Tiny Duck.
    This is total and utter bullshit.

    I've worked in the film/tv industry for over 30 years at the set level, which means actually being there when the films are being made, not sitting in an office in Hollywood.

    First of all, a crew member would never be involved with helping an actor in snatching young actors for nefarious acts. It just doesn't happen. There is a very wide divide between cast and crew; crew are full time professionals there to do this job and then move to the next job.

    Cast are there because this is their big chance( for a new talent) or folks who are so isolated from the crew that they never actually interact with them.

    There is not a single benefit for crew to help some pervert actor, unless they too are perverts, and that is a very small possibility.

    What is more likely; a usually quite conservative hardworking family type crew member, or a narcissistic, often homosexual, attention whore as being the author of bad intentions?

    Uhh . . . Right . . .

    I think you need to go back to pretending to be a public school teacher who — out of bitter and unrelenting sexual frustration — obsessively urges his white female students to couple with MEN OF COLOR.

    You might also want to consult the topic of the thread before posting someone else’s comment copied from some other website, about an entirely different issue.

  84. @Anonymous
    He should go over there to subvert their power structure and screw over their people.

    They’ll show him part of their Strategic Pork Reserve (A real thing) and Bill will decide dealing with the Chinese ain’t kosher!

  85. Just because Bill Kristol favors a certain policy doesn’t automatically make that policy wrong. Regime change in China at least has the virtue of serving the American national interest. (Who the hell wants a strong, nationalistic China throwing its weight around? I don’t.) That’s totally unlike regime change in shithole middle eastern countries, where it scarcely makes a difference to America who rules.

    We’re in for a “cold war” with China, that’s pretty much baked into the cake from a realist international relations perspective. Best to accept that in our hearts and behave accordingly. I would prefer America to prevail. (Although the American demographic burden makes that outcome appear increasingly doubtful. Who knows though.)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Put it this way.

    I'd rather have the world dominated by a nationalistic China than a PC addled USA.
    , @Anonymous
    Actually, I'm pretty darned convinced that the future of human progress and human civilization depends on China fully it's present course and fulfilling its destiny.

    I'm also convinced that the paths the PC/'Equality'/Economist run Europe and North America are stuck on is the road back to primeval Pond Slimedom. In fact, I'd even go as far as to say it's a fate *worse* than ethnic extinction.
  86. @Uilleam Yr Alban
    The odious Oliver Cromwell's decision to reverse the Edict of Expulsion was a preceding mistake of significant magnitude. One good thing I'll say about Edward I, the Longshanks, the Hammer of the Scots, is that he chose his indigenous poor over the usurers, factors, and tax farmers who conspired with England's nobles to squeeze the peasantry.

    Cf. Joseph in Egypt, Daniel in Babylon, etc. Helping exploitative elites further exploit is the Tribe's most ancient trade.

    He was also WELSHing on making debt payments to the Red Sea Pedestrians.;)

  87. @Twinkie

    Or one of his billion living descendants. There must be a pretender on every corner.
     
    I’m 10% Mongolian according to DNA Land. Does that count?

    Governor-General of North Korea Twinkie!;)

  88. @Twinkie

    They are not totalitarians because of the West’s embrace of liberalism, they are totalitarians because the CCP is full of corrupt, self-serving people.
     
    I’m pretty anti-China, primarily because it is an emerging strategic competitor to my country, the U.S., but...

    1. China is not totalitarian. It’s authoritarian. There is a pretty big difference.

    2. The CCP may be full of corrupt, self-serving people, but the leadership class of China has raised enormously the living standards of the Chinese people in the past 30 years. The Mandate of Heaven and all that. They are keenly aware that their continued rule depends in large measure on the growing prosperity and stability of the Chinese people. Can we say the same of OUR leadership class in the United States?

    Define American people. I suspect that most of the country no longer is considered real Americans by the elite.

  89. @AnotherDad
    BTW, the Chinese probably could use--definitely in the long run--some regime change.

    But that's for the Chinese to work out--not us.

    And one reason that the Chinese Communist Party--and more broadly the Chinese business and middle classes-- haven't been chomping at the bit for political reform/liberalization is no doubt the appalling performance of Western liberal elites this past generation:

    -- Destabilizing utopian economic projects--the Euro
    -- Allowing muslim encroachment and terrorism
    -- Expensive utopian "nation building" wars
    -- Encouraging minority debt fueled housing asset price bubble creating financial crisis
    and most of all
    -- Utopian "nation of immigrants" and "refugees!" open borderism and creating massive (low IQ and hostile) demographic change.

    The common thread here is leftist pie in the sky "everyone is the same" or "everyone can be an American" blank slatism. Call it Lewontinism or Kristolization.

    And no one actually thinking--rather than emoting--and certainly not the Chinese would look at the performance of these Western "elites" and think "oh yeah, we want to copy those guys!"

    And no one actually thinking–rather than emoting–and certainly not the Chinese would look at the performance of these Western “elites” and think “oh yeah, we want to copy those guys!”

    That’s a hell of a good point. The only thing at this point that the young Chinese know the West has given the world is McDonalds and the Old Guy on the KFC sign, who they probably think of in the same way as we do regarding General Tsao.

    Can you imagine how some of the now-late-40, early-50 y/o Chinamen feel about their participation in, and survival of, that almost 3 decade ago big pro-democracy protest in downtown Peking? Many of them, even though they survived it, had plenty of repercussions on their schooling and careers due to that, along with their long-dead friends. “What were we demonstrating for?!” they might well think today. “I can’t remember why we ever looked up to the West?”, and “What the hell was I thinking?” are probably their thoughts.

    It’s very similar to those Americans who fought in WWII or in Cold War hot spots – “what was the point of all that, when I look at my country now?”

    • Replies: @bomag

    “what was the point of all that, when I look at my country now?”
     
    Well, regret comes to everything, eventually.

    I'd stick up a bit for the Tienanmen square protests. At the time, Western democracies were still flying high as a model for arranging your affairs.

    , @Old Palo Altan
    I am happy to tell you that I was recently discussing these issues with a nineteen year old from Peking. He is a pianist, a composer, a Wagnerite, a German First world war imperialist, and a despiser of the revolutionaries of Tiananmen Square. Also about to be baptised a Catholic (of the real sort of course).

    No, he doesn't like the USA and maybe I do want them to conquer us after all.
  90. I have read that in the next couple of decades, China is going to produce “Romance of The Three Kingdoms 2:Electric Bugaloo” so as long as we keep calm and act ruthlessly enough, China won’t be a problem soon enough.

  91. @Stan d Mute

    Constantly twitching and yapping … churning out one asinine idea after another.
     
    The problem isn’t Kristol. I can show you a dozen imbeciles yapping insane ideas hanging out with their shopping carts at the Ann Arbor Public Library any time of day or night. And a hundred more, no cleaner or better dressed but at least not homeless, inside the Library reading or browsing when it’s open.

    The problem is us.

    We pay attention to what this clown says. We pay for the privilege in our precious time, in ad revenues, newsprint, and cable tv or internet service charges. It very much looks to me like we approve of him. Nobody is coerced to read or listen to his ilk.

    What I want to know is whether someone like Kristol isn’t akin to a guy in the public square shouting that he loves to molest children. Kristol is demanding death and destruction on an epic scale. The left feels justified in exercising the mob veto of free speech over microaggressions, but we just peck out our frustrations on a keyboard or with our closest confidantes over a beer until some unhinged idiot vents his steam by shooting up a church or synagogue. We can’t even manage to boycott sportsball when sportsball affletes spit in our faces. Something has gone terribly wrong within us.

    We pay attention to what this clown says. We pay for the privilege in our precious time, in ad revenues, newsprint, and cable tv or internet service charges. It very much looks to me like we approve of him. Nobody is coerced to read or listen to his ilk.

    Whaddya mean WE, Kemosabe?

    GET OFF THE TV!

    [/former-commenter named Freddie on ZeroHedge]

  92. @Detective Club
    Send in Charlie Chan with a suitcase nuke because he's on our side!
    https://youtu.be/aT0bPsmNKdY

    I’m Uncle Sam, that’s who I am.
    Been hidin’ out in a rock and roll band.
    Shake the hand that shook the hand
    of P.T. Barnum and Charlie Chan.

    Wave that flag, wave it wide and high
    Summertime done, come and gone, my, oh, my.

  93. Anonymous[177] • Disclaimer says:

    Rather tricky, methinks, especially as the ‘regime’ in question basically funds the US military, if not the US government. I mean, can you really *imagine* if the ‘day of Armaggedon’ hits the USA?, by that, of course, I mean that semi mythical and off touted day in which the issue of ‘food stamps’ suddenly halts in Baltimore, Detroit, Newark, Chicago, New Orleans, NYC etc etc.

    ‘He who pays the piper calls the tune’.

  94. Not so much a Crystal Ball.

    Kristol Balls more like.

  95. @Emblematic
    Little more than a generation after being let into the United States in large numbers their influence was such that they were successful in dragging the country into The First World War.

    Emblematic wrote:

    Little more than a generation after being let into the United States in large numbers their influence was such that [American Jews] were successful in dragging the country into The First World War.

    Is tha true? My impresssion was that Jews in general did not have a big problem with the Kaiser’s regime. Indeed, the big boosters for US involvement in WW I seem to have been the Morgan interests (who were financially tied to the Alies) and more than a few crazy Old Stock Americans exemplified (and unintentionally parodied) by Teddy Roosevelt. (TR wanted to lead a gaggle of geezers to Europe to fight the Kaiser. Sadly, Woodrow Wilson forbade it.)

    • Replies: @Lyov Myshkin
    They were but then The Balfour Declaration happened and for some reason they changed their tune.
  96. @Cagey Beast
    Hopefully the Chinese Foreign Ministry demands a formal disavowal of Kristol from the State Department. Force Kristol to apologise to China the way Dolce & Gabbana just did:

    Dolce&Gabbana founders apologize to China after ad, Instagram fiasco
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/dolce-gabbana-apology-china-backlash-1.4917653

    Hey, they may just be able to make that happen. This ain’t 1995 anymore. Per Western airlines bow down to China Commies’ petty whims, when China says “jump” now, western globalist airlines say “how high?” (Prequel post here.)

  97. @Cagey Beast
    Hopefully the Chinese Foreign Ministry demands a formal disavowal of Kristol from the State Department. Force Kristol to apologise to China the way Dolce & Gabbana just did:

    Dolce&Gabbana founders apologize to China after ad, Instagram fiasco
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/dolce-gabbana-apology-china-backlash-1.4917653

    Hopefully the Chinese Foreign Ministry demands a formal disavowal of Kristol from the State Department. Force Kristol to apologise to China the way Dolce & Gabbana just did:

    kristol is not hoping to sell something to China; he wants someone to impose an idea on China.

  98. @Anthony Wayne
    Open military confrontation with China is the only alternative to MFN. Anything in between just isn’t Who We Are.

    In fact, one must assume China will maintain its permanent normal trade relations status throughout the conflict envisaged by Kristol, only to emerge on the other side as an even more closely linked trade partner.

    We have to overturn and inflict wholesale change on China because the USA cannot run a sensible trade policy that serves the interest of ordinary Americans.

    The buffoonish Kristol appears to think that replacing leaders with globo-friendly puppets and realigning the ideological framework will do the trick – apparently oblivious to the fact that China is a civilization, not Airstrip One with a managerial ruling apparatus.

  99. @PhysicistDave
    Emblematic wrote:

    Little more than a generation after being let into the United States in large numbers their influence was such that [American Jews] were successful in dragging the country into The First World War.
     
    Is tha true? My impresssion was that Jews in general did not have a big problem with the Kaiser's regime. Indeed, the big boosters for US involvement in WW I seem to have been the Morgan interests (who were financially tied to the Alies) and more than a few crazy Old Stock Americans exemplified (and unintentionally parodied) by Teddy Roosevelt. (TR wanted to lead a gaggle of geezers to Europe to fight the Kaiser. Sadly, Woodrow Wilson forbade it.)

    They were but then The Balfour Declaration happened and for some reason they changed their tune.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    The Balfour Declaration is like the Emancipation Proclamation, a way to get some support, but got taken too seriously by historians.
  100. @International Jew
    Well, we don't pray for your conversion. Never did in fact. There's your reciprocity.

    That’s not the type of reciprocity he means. He means, when do we get to arrogantly, self-servingly interfere with YOUR liturgy the same way you arrogantly interfere with ours?

    (btw there is nothing hateful about the prayer “pro perfidiis judiis” : that idea stems from a linguistic misunderstanding, what the French call un faux-ami. In English, “perfidious” means treacherous, dishonest, disloyal. The “perfidiis” of the Church Latin means “without faith (in Christ)”. Because, um, Christians actually do believe Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life — and we want our Jewish brethren to share in that Life. How bigoted of us.)

    • Agree: Twinkie, Desiderius
  101. @FLgeezer
    >He should go over there to subvert their power structure and screw over their people.

    As is presently being done in Germany. 'Tis the season after all:

    https://www.france24.com/en/20181123-berlin-man-95-charged-over-36000-deaths-nazi-camp

    How does trying actual Nazi war criminals do that?

  102. @FLgeezer
    >He should go over there to subvert their power structure and screw over their people.

    As is presently being done in Germany. 'Tis the season after all:

    https://www.france24.com/en/20181123-berlin-man-95-charged-over-36000-deaths-nazi-camp

    Sorry to potentially offend but are we sure this isn’t some kind of French Onion?

    https://www.france24.com/en/eye-africa/20181123-2018-11-23-2247-eye-africa-benin-art-france-drcongo-zambia-culture

    I have seen better artwork from a high school workshop.

    Maybe Zambia was always riven by war and people just had a few hours to finish the art thing before getting into the next battle?

  103. @Lyov Myshkin
    They were but then The Balfour Declaration happened and for some reason they changed their tune.

    The Balfour Declaration is like the Emancipation Proclamation, a way to get some support, but got taken too seriously by historians.

  104. @FLgeezer
    >He should go over there to subvert their power structure and screw over their people.

    As is presently being done in Germany. 'Tis the season after all:

    https://www.france24.com/en/20181123-berlin-man-95-charged-over-36000-deaths-nazi-camp

    Those German prosecutors need to mach schnell and nail those old-timers before they croak and thwart justice.

  105. @Buzz Mohawk
    Billy Kristol has become a parody of himself.

    He was a lot funnier when he hosted the Oscars.

    http://www.hollywoodnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/billy-crystal-600x380.jpg

    True story. My wiseacre brother sat next to Bill Kristol on a flight and asked him “So is there going to be a City Slickers 3?”. Kristol sneered and looked away. I don’t think they spoke the rest of the flight.

    • LOL: Anonym
    • Replies: @vinteuil
    Did he ask "do you know who I am" before sneering & looking away?

    Just curious.
  106. @silviosilver
    Just because Bill Kristol favors a certain policy doesn't automatically make that policy wrong. Regime change in China at least has the virtue of serving the American national interest. (Who the hell wants a strong, nationalistic China throwing its weight around? I don't.) That's totally unlike regime change in shithole middle eastern countries, where it scarcely makes a difference to America who rules.

    We're in for a "cold war" with China, that's pretty much baked into the cake from a realist international relations perspective. Best to accept that in our hearts and behave accordingly. I would prefer America to prevail. (Although the American demographic burden makes that outcome appear increasingly doubtful. Who knows though.)

    Put it this way.

    I’d rather have the world dominated by a nationalistic China than a PC addled USA.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Honestly, I'd rather have a world conquered by fundamentalist Islam than a world run by American style PC.
    , @anon
    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

    ― C. S. Lewis
  107. Anonymous[341] • Disclaimer says:
    @silviosilver
    Just because Bill Kristol favors a certain policy doesn't automatically make that policy wrong. Regime change in China at least has the virtue of serving the American national interest. (Who the hell wants a strong, nationalistic China throwing its weight around? I don't.) That's totally unlike regime change in shithole middle eastern countries, where it scarcely makes a difference to America who rules.

    We're in for a "cold war" with China, that's pretty much baked into the cake from a realist international relations perspective. Best to accept that in our hearts and behave accordingly. I would prefer America to prevail. (Although the American demographic burden makes that outcome appear increasingly doubtful. Who knows though.)

    Actually, I’m pretty darned convinced that the future of human progress and human civilization depends on China fully it’s present course and fulfilling its destiny.

    I’m also convinced that the paths the PC/’Equality’/Economist run Europe and North America are stuck on is the road back to primeval Pond Slimedom. In fact, I’d even go as far as to say it’s a fate *worse* than ethnic extinction.

  108. @Reg Cæsar
    In Xanadu did Kristol Khan
    A stately pressure-dome decree :
    Where Alif, the sacred river, ran
    Through caverns measureless to man
    Down to a senseless sea.

    The Kristol Never Rests

    But who is really to blame?

    “Trump cracked the glowing Kristol open, releasing its eldritch energies.”

    Who said this?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar


    “Trump cracked the glowing Kristol open, releasing its eldritch energies.”
     
    Who said this?
     
    Why bring Tiger Woods into this?

    Even Steve hasn't mentioned golf in some time.
  109. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Another point.

    The BBC and others incessantly push out the guff about Chinese censorship, totalitarianism, authoritarianism etc etc, but good old ‘liberal’ UK is the state where ordinary citizens can get the feared ‘dawn knock’ from the police for committing the dastardly crime of burning a cardboard box on Guy Fawkes night (appropriately enough).

    That is if the said box blasphemes against the state diversity cult by having words ‘which cannot be named’ on the box.

  110. @Anonymous
    Put it this way.

    I'd rather have the world dominated by a nationalistic China than a PC addled USA.

    Honestly, I’d rather have a world conquered by fundamentalist Islam than a world run by American style PC.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    Honestly, I’d rather have a world conquered by fundamentalist Islam than a world run by American style PC.
     
    Yep, I have to agree with that.

    Anything that opposes American liberalism is a good thing.
  111. @Twinkie
    Thanks to Jewish agitation and meddling in MY religion, I am no longer allowed to pray for their conversion during Mass. Not that I wish to meddle in theirs, but I have a feeling I’d be denounced as an anti-Semite if I were to seek reciprocity.

    Thanks to Jewish agitation and meddling in MY religion, I am no longer allowed to pray for their conversion during Mass. Not that I wish to meddle in theirs, but I have a feeling I’d be denounced as an anti-Semite if I were to seek reciprocity.

    Not just during Mass but in general ‘the prayer for conversion of the Jews’ was made non-kosher. But a Jewish convert to Catholicism, Roy Schoeman, always includes it in his talks.

  112. IOW, Kristol-Nacht for the Chinese.

  113. @Cagey Beast
    I'll go further and say Jewish Emancipation was the biggest mistake the West made since the French Revolution, apart from the two world wars.

    Blame it on those pussies who ran the inquisition.

  114. I wonder if this will be in Xi’s next foreign brief. If so, somehow I don’t think it will be conducive to good relations.

  115. Not yet disclosed: How exactly would regime change in China work? Who is the Chinese Ahmad Chalabi whom the 1.3 billion Chinese are desperate to have as their new U.S.-backed ruler?

    What these people need is Mona Chalabi, to teach them basic arithmetic. She figured out, while working there, that FiveThirtyEight had no business using decimal points. David Sumpter tells the story in his Outnumbered.

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36762542-outnumbered

    “Chalabi” means someone from Aleppo, doesn’t it? Queen Noor is the daughter of Syrian-American Texan Najeeb Halaby, who once ran the FAA and Pan Am. That’s the source of their surname.

  116. @Almost Missouri
    "The Kristol Never Rests"

    But who is really to blame?

    "Trump cracked the glowing Kristol open, releasing its eldritch energies."
     
    Who said this?

    “Trump cracked the glowing Kristol open, releasing its eldritch energies.”

    Who said this?

    Why bring Tiger Woods into this?

    Even Steve hasn’t mentioned golf in some time.

    • LOL: Almost Missouri
  117. @415 reasons
    Can we get a regime change in the US first?

    Bill’s already hard at work on that one.

  118. @International Jew
    Well, we don't pray for your conversion. Never did in fact. There's your reciprocity.

    The problem you’ve got is that your post-Jews have ganged up with our post-Christians to make conversion to Globohomocorpianty mandatory.

    And since most of the leading post-Jews are at the tip of the spear in media and the classroom, y’all are getting the lion’s share of the blame.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    Desiderius wrote:

    The problem you’ve got is that your post-Jews have ganged up with our post-Christians to make conversion to Globohomocorpianty mandatory.
     
    Well, you remember Chesterton's point: the problem is not that when people give up faith in Christianity that they then believe in nothing but rather that they will then believe in anything.

    Odd how credulous post-Christians (and post-Jews) are. (I say this as someone who never was a believer but is merely noting a fact.)
  119. @James N. Kennett
    OT: Jewish leaders call for new editions of the Bible and the Koran to carry trigger warnings highlighting anti-Semitic passages

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6421233/Jewish-leaders-call-religious-texts-carry-warnings-highlighting-anti-Semitic-passages.html


    The document reads: 'Translations of the New Testament, the Qur’an and other Christian or Muslim literatures need marginal glosses, and introductions that emphasize continuity with Jewish heritage of both Christianity and Islam and warn readers about antisemitic passages in them.
     
    There is no proposal for marginal glosses for the anti-Gentilic passages in the Hebrew Bible or the Talmud; or for introductions to point out the elements of Judaism that have continuity with ancient Babylonian, Persian, or Egyptian beliefs. Surely these are equally important?

    I seem to recall a great deal of smiting of the enemies of God’s chosen people in the Old Testament. Perhaps glosses could be added alerting people to these anti-gentilic passages.

  120. Even Steve hasn’t mentioned golf in some time.

    RC: ateverwhay ouyay oday ixnay anyyay alktay ofyay olfgay oursecay ARCHITECTUREYAY!

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    Hey, it fuels him up for other things. It's a small price to pay.
  121. @Garlic
    The problem with Chinese regime change is that one hour later Bill Kristol is regime-change hungry again.

    Kristol is the Joey Chestnut of regimes

  122. @Tiny Duck.
    This is total and utter bullshit.

    I've worked in the film/tv industry for over 30 years at the set level, which means actually being there when the films are being made, not sitting in an office in Hollywood.

    First of all, a crew member would never be involved with helping an actor in snatching young actors for nefarious acts. It just doesn't happen. There is a very wide divide between cast and crew; crew are full time professionals there to do this job and then move to the next job.

    Cast are there because this is their big chance( for a new talent) or folks who are so isolated from the crew that they never actually interact with them.

    There is not a single benefit for crew to help some pervert actor, unless they too are perverts, and that is a very small possibility.

    What is more likely; a usually quite conservative hardworking family type crew member, or a narcissistic, often homosexual, attention whore as being the author of bad intentions?

    Hey, ‘Roy’ did you forget who were pretending to be today? Who knew you read Vox Day? Priceless. You’ve always been a phoney but it’s fun to find you elsewhere trolling. Last time I caught you copy pasting was from the NY Times. That time you pretended to be a girl. I guess it’s funnier to pretend you’re not gay!

  123. @Achmed E. Newman

    And no one actually thinking–rather than emoting–and certainly not the Chinese would look at the performance of these Western “elites” and think “oh yeah, we want to copy those guys!”
     
    That's a hell of a good point. The only thing at this point that the young Chinese know the West has given the world is McDonalds and the Old Guy on the KFC sign, who they probably think of in the same way as we do regarding General Tsao.

    Can you imagine how some of the now-late-40, early-50 y/o Chinamen feel about their participation in, and survival of, that almost 3 decade ago big pro-democracy protest in downtown Peking? Many of them, even though they survived it, had plenty of repercussions on their schooling and careers due to that, along with their long-dead friends. "What were we demonstrating for?!" they might well think today. "I can't remember why we ever looked up to the West?", and "What the hell was I thinking?" are probably their thoughts.

    It's very similar to those Americans who fought in WWII or in Cold War hot spots - "what was the point of all that, when I look at my country now?"

    “what was the point of all that, when I look at my country now?”

    Well, regret comes to everything, eventually.

    I’d stick up a bit for the Tienanmen square protests. At the time, Western democracies were still flying high as a model for arranging your affairs.

  124. @Big Bill
    Just ignore them. They always go for this kooky stuff.

    We can ignore them, but the people wearing the dead skin suits of our mainline Churches demonstrably do not ignore them.

  125. @Jason Liu
    What is with these people and regime change?

    "Everyone mind your own damn business" should be the gold standard for 21st century diplomacy

    But, but, but… there’s not any profit for the MIC and big Wall Street banks in that!

  126. @Joe Walker
    I guess this means that China is a threat to Israel.

    Of course that’s what it means, and of course it is.

    They think ahead, those Jews (which is not a criticism; I only wish that we were as capable of looking out for ourselves).

  127. @Achmed E. Newman

    And no one actually thinking–rather than emoting–and certainly not the Chinese would look at the performance of these Western “elites” and think “oh yeah, we want to copy those guys!”
     
    That's a hell of a good point. The only thing at this point that the young Chinese know the West has given the world is McDonalds and the Old Guy on the KFC sign, who they probably think of in the same way as we do regarding General Tsao.

    Can you imagine how some of the now-late-40, early-50 y/o Chinamen feel about their participation in, and survival of, that almost 3 decade ago big pro-democracy protest in downtown Peking? Many of them, even though they survived it, had plenty of repercussions on their schooling and careers due to that, along with their long-dead friends. "What were we demonstrating for?!" they might well think today. "I can't remember why we ever looked up to the West?", and "What the hell was I thinking?" are probably their thoughts.

    It's very similar to those Americans who fought in WWII or in Cold War hot spots - "what was the point of all that, when I look at my country now?"

    I am happy to tell you that I was recently discussing these issues with a nineteen year old from Peking. He is a pianist, a composer, a Wagnerite, a German First world war imperialist, and a despiser of the revolutionaries of Tiananmen Square. Also about to be baptised a Catholic (of the real sort of course).

    No, he doesn’t like the USA and maybe I do want them to conquer us after all.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @vinteuil

    He is a pianist, a composer, a Wagnerite, a German First world war imperialist, and a despiser of the revolutionaries of Tiananmen Square. Also about to be baptised a Catholic...
     
    So where do I go to find myself in such company?

    It's the "Wagnerite" & "German First world war imperialist" that especially catches my attention, here.
  128. @Desiderius
    The problem you’ve got is that your post-Jews have ganged up with our post-Christians to make conversion to Globohomocorpianty mandatory.

    And since most of the leading post-Jews are at the tip of the spear in media and the classroom, y’all are getting the lion’s share of the blame.

    Desiderius wrote:

    The problem you’ve got is that your post-Jews have ganged up with our post-Christians to make conversion to Globohomocorpianty mandatory.

    Well, you remember Chesterton’s point: the problem is not that when people give up faith in Christianity that they then believe in nothing but rather that they will then believe in anything.

    Odd how credulous post-Christians (and post-Jews) are. (I say this as someone who never was a believer but is merely noting a fact.)

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    If they weren't credulous they'd have never abandoned God in the first place.

    Eve in the Garden redux.

    Social Justistry is the trophy wife of those who've grown apart from God, and as with any other trophy wife those who've embraced her will be subjected to an endless series of increasingly absurd demands lest that trophy wife fall victim to the same fate suffered by the first love.
  129. I’m sure that the Chinese would not dump their $trillion-worth of US treasuries if the US ever genuinely had a go at destabilising the political structure of China – but I would not be so bold as to bet against it.

    It would be entertaining to see how the US economy behaved if 5-year interest rates hit 15% (that’s what happened to Greece when demand for Greek bonds collapsed a few years back); the US government has to find willing buyers for over $1 trillion a year in new paper, too.

    China, Russia and others are undermining the US dollar’s reserve status (which is really an anachronism anyway – from the days when currency conversion took days rather than milliseconds)… that alone will undermine the US government’s ability to keep adding to debt.

    I hold no brief for any of them – all politicians are scum who should be extirpated: in that context, anything that reduces the dominance of any individual set of political scum is a positive… in the current configuration, that would be anything the undermines US pseudo-hegemony.

    US ‘hegemony’ is not real, in any case: the US has shown the world that its trillion dollar Death Machine cannot prevail against rag-tag bands of localswith 1950s weaponry and a grudge. Faced with a near-peer enemy capable of, for example, sinking an aircraft carrier, the US would lose bigly… and its military leadership knows that (Google “Paul K Van Riper” and “Millennium Challenge 2002“).

    (Caveat: if the US military was actually defending the US mainland, it would win easily… but that’s not their business model).

    • Replies: @Max Rancourt

    US ‘hegemony’ is not real, in any case: the US has shown the world that its trillion dollar Death Machine cannot prevail against rag-tag bands of localswith 1950s weaponry and a grudge. Faced with a near-peer enemy capable of, for example, sinking an aircraft carrier, the US would lose bigly… and its military leadership knows that (Google “Paul K Van Riper” and “Millennium Challenge 2002“).
     
    When Trump was planning a strike in Syria there was talk of Russian retaliation and I recall hearing some former Israeli military guy on a talk show who was making the same point as you. Somewhere on Unz.com someone posted a video of this former IAF officer— originally from Russia— who was on a Russian talk show (with English subtitles) saying that if the U.S. hit any Russian military assets, Russia would respond and within hours U.S. ships would be sitting on the floor of the Mediterranean. He said the U.S. is good at going to war against [third-world countries] with subpar militaries but if they had to fight a really military, one that could punch back, they would be in a world of hurt (my paraphrase). It kind of blew my mind because I had always assumed the more organized a foreign adversary’s military was the easier it would be for the U.S. to annihilate them. That it was only guerrilla wars which were problematic for the U.S. (though they did pretty well in Iraq after learning how to counter threats). There are a lot of retired 4-star generals on TV (e.g., Gen. Keane on Fox) who seem pretty confident that the U.S. military could crush anyone they chose to crush— anytime, anyplace— and the only issue to be determined is the amount of assets required for the job.
  130. @Jason Liu
    What is with these people and regime change?

    "Everyone mind your own damn business" should be the gold standard for 21st century diplomacy

    Jason Liu wrote:

    “Everyone mind your own damn business” should be the gold standard for 21st century diplomacy

    Yes, though J. Q. Adams made your point a bit more eloquently in laying out the proper approach for the United States to take towards the world:

    Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.

    Our early statesmen may not have been perfect human beings, but they certainly could be eloquent!

  131. @Rohirrimborn
    True story. My wiseacre brother sat next to Bill Kristol on a flight and asked him "So is there going to be a City Slickers 3?". Kristol sneered and looked away. I don't think they spoke the rest of the flight.

    Did he ask “do you know who I am” before sneering & looking away?

    Just curious.

  132. @Jack Armstrong

    Even Steve hasn’t mentioned golf in some time.
     
    RC: ateverwhay ouyay oday ixnay anyyay alktay ofyay olfgay oursecay ARCHITECTUREYAY!

    Hey, it fuels him up for other things. It’s a small price to pay.

  133. @SND
    This is just a bit of misdirection psyops by Kristol. He doesn't really care about China or how great it would be for the US if China turned into something else. What he wants to convey is "See, I don't just want to screw things up when they directly relate negatively to Israeli hegemony, but I want to screw things up more generally. It's not all about Israel!"

    It’s not all about Israel

    This China regime change thing is really ALL about Israel. You see if the USA starts being overtaken in power status that means Israel also starts losing its power.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    This China regime change thing is really ALL about Israel. You see if the USA starts being overtaken in power status that means Israel also starts losing its power.

    I have been saying this for quite a while now. Maybe 5-8 years or so. PC and the mass immigration project is not Good For the Jews (TM). It is just another false messiah dead end.
  134. @Old Palo Altan
    I am happy to tell you that I was recently discussing these issues with a nineteen year old from Peking. He is a pianist, a composer, a Wagnerite, a German First world war imperialist, and a despiser of the revolutionaries of Tiananmen Square. Also about to be baptised a Catholic (of the real sort of course).

    No, he doesn't like the USA and maybe I do want them to conquer us after all.

    He is a pianist, a composer, a Wagnerite, a German First world war imperialist, and a despiser of the revolutionaries of Tiananmen Square. Also about to be baptised a Catholic…

    So where do I go to find myself in such company?

    It’s the “Wagnerite” & “German First world war imperialist” that especially catches my attention, here.

  135. Caught my attention too, here.

    But “here” must remain, nowhere.

  136. @Anonymous
    Honestly, I'd rather have a world conquered by fundamentalist Islam than a world run by American style PC.

    Honestly, I’d rather have a world conquered by fundamentalist Islam than a world run by American style PC.

    Yep, I have to agree with that.

    Anything that opposes American liberalism is a good thing.

  137. Kristol is a waste of a human fleshy bag of fleshy garbage. He is waste.

  138. To be fair to Kristol, I don’t think he’s calling for the same kind of “regime change” involving direct military force and intervention as he pushed for in Iraq.

  139. @neutral

    It’s not all about Israel
     
    This China regime change thing is really ALL about Israel. You see if the USA starts being overtaken in power status that means Israel also starts losing its power.

    This China regime change thing is really ALL about Israel. You see if the USA starts being overtaken in power status that means Israel also starts losing its power.

    I have been saying this for quite a while now. Maybe 5-8 years or so. PC and the mass immigration project is not Good For the Jews (TM). It is just another false messiah dead end.

  140. anon[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Put it this way.

    I'd rather have the world dominated by a nationalistic China than a PC addled USA.

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

    ― C. S. Lewis

  141. @Stan d Mute

    Constantly twitching and yapping … churning out one asinine idea after another.
     
    The problem isn’t Kristol. I can show you a dozen imbeciles yapping insane ideas hanging out with their shopping carts at the Ann Arbor Public Library any time of day or night. And a hundred more, no cleaner or better dressed but at least not homeless, inside the Library reading or browsing when it’s open.

    The problem is us.

    We pay attention to what this clown says. We pay for the privilege in our precious time, in ad revenues, newsprint, and cable tv or internet service charges. It very much looks to me like we approve of him. Nobody is coerced to read or listen to his ilk.

    What I want to know is whether someone like Kristol isn’t akin to a guy in the public square shouting that he loves to molest children. Kristol is demanding death and destruction on an epic scale. The left feels justified in exercising the mob veto of free speech over microaggressions, but we just peck out our frustrations on a keyboard or with our closest confidantes over a beer until some unhinged idiot vents his steam by shooting up a church or synagogue. We can’t even manage to boycott sportsball when sportsball affletes spit in our faces. Something has gone terribly wrong within us.

    The left feels justified in exercising the mob veto of free speech over microaggressions, but we just peck out our frustrations on a keyboard or with our closest confidantes over a beer

    This is a fair point.

    If a Nobel Prizewinning geneticist questions whether Africans are as intelligent as Europeans, he will lose his job and be permanently excluded from public life.

    If a respected and high-achieving economist suggests that there are multiple reasons why there are fewer women than men in STEM, and makes suggestions for improving women’s representation, he will suffer the same fate.

    Yet if someone advocates the loss of American blood and treasure fighting a pointless war against a country that is not even an enemy, he is applauded. He is still applauded even after the war has been fought and has turned out badly. He is applauded even more when he proposes another war that also ends badly.

    In a just world, Bill Kristol and the other neocons would automatically be treated as pariahs, and would be socially and professionally excluded to an even greater extent than James Watson or Larry Summers.

  142. @Kratoklastes
    I'm sure that the Chinese would not dump their $trillion-worth of US treasuries if the US ever genuinely had a go at destabilising the political structure of China - but I would not be so bold as to bet against it.

    It would be entertaining to see how the US economy behaved if 5-year interest rates hit 15% (that's what happened to Greece when demand for Greek bonds collapsed a few years back); the US government has to find willing buyers for over $1 trillion a year in new paper, too.

    China, Russia and others are undermining the US dollar's reserve status (which is really an anachronism anyway - from the days when currency conversion took days rather than milliseconds)... that alone will undermine the US government's ability to keep adding to debt.

    I hold no brief for any of them - all politicians are scum who should be extirpated: in that context, anything that reduces the dominance of any individual set of political scum is a positive... in the current configuration, that would be anything the undermines US pseudo-hegemony.

    US 'hegemony' is not real, in any case: the US has shown the world that its trillion dollar Death Machine cannot prevail against rag-tag bands of localswith 1950s weaponry and a grudge. Faced with a near-peer enemy capable of, for example, sinking an aircraft carrier, the US would lose bigly... and its military leadership knows that (Google "Paul K Van Riper" and "Millennium Challenge 2002").

    (Caveat: if the US military was actually defending the US mainland, it would win easily... but that's not their business model).

    US ‘hegemony’ is not real, in any case: the US has shown the world that its trillion dollar Death Machine cannot prevail against rag-tag bands of localswith 1950s weaponry and a grudge. Faced with a near-peer enemy capable of, for example, sinking an aircraft carrier, the US would lose bigly… and its military leadership knows that (Google “Paul K Van Riper” and “Millennium Challenge 2002“).

    When Trump was planning a strike in Syria there was talk of Russian retaliation and I recall hearing some former Israeli military guy on a talk show who was making the same point as you. Somewhere on Unz.com someone posted a video of this former IAF officer— originally from Russia— who was on a Russian talk show (with English subtitles) saying that if the U.S. hit any Russian military assets, Russia would respond and within hours U.S. ships would be sitting on the floor of the Mediterranean. He said the U.S. is good at going to war against [third-world countries] with subpar militaries but if they had to fight a really military, one that could punch back, they would be in a world of hurt (my paraphrase). It kind of blew my mind because I had always assumed the more organized a foreign adversary’s military was the easier it would be for the U.S. to annihilate them. That it was only guerrilla wars which were problematic for the U.S. (though they did pretty well in Iraq after learning how to counter threats). There are a lot of retired 4-star generals on TV (e.g., Gen. Keane on Fox) who seem pretty confident that the U.S. military could crush anyone they chose to crush— anytime, anyplace— and the only issue to be determined is the amount of assets required for the job.

  143. But, Bill, why not think really big? All you need to do is to find the lost Tomb of Genghis Khan …

    Perhaps we could call it Operation Needle snake ?

  144. @Dr. X
    Kristol's thoughtless, offhanded comment about "regime change" in a nuclear-armed country of 1.3 billion people reminds me of the FREE TIBET bumper stickers the hippies and the stoners used to put on their Subarus (right next to the Grateful Dead stickers and the "Visualize Whirled Peas" stickers) back in the day. College towns used to be plastered with 'em.

    Every time I'd see one of those I used to think "Free Tibet? Exactly how are we gonna do that, Slick? Send the f--king Marines to invade China? Are you gonna be the first to cut your hair and enlist?"

    Virtue signaling has been around for a while...

    Every time I’d see one of those I used to think “Free Tibet? Exactly how are we gonna do that, Slick?

    Non-violent resistance ala Ghandi and King, coupled with liberal fairy dust.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    "Non-violent resistance ala Ghandi and King, coupled with liberal fairy dust."

    Non-violent resistance à la Gandhi definitely won't work. Even violent resistance à la the Dalai Liar (China's Ahmad Chalabi) has been tried and haven't work.

    To free Tibet you free South Tibet first, then after South Tibet is free you have a base and you work your way up and free the rest of Tibet, like the British Raj was trying to do at one time.

    In case you couldn't locate South Tibet on a map, the place has been renamed to Arunachal Pradesh and made a state by India in 1987. India invaded South Tibet in 1951, four years after the Raj has already left and occupy it to this day. South Tibet includes historic Tawang, birthplace of the Sixth Dalai Lama and home to a four hundred years old Tibetan monastery.

    South Tibet has been restless for a long time and India knows it. This is the reason India imposes a law that allows the state to detain or kill anyone with impunity. The law called AFSPA (Armed Force Special Power Act) dates back to the British colonial times and is a law meant to intimidate the locals and suppress dissents. Today India imposes AFSPA on area it deemed 'disturbed', such as South Tibet, the northeast and Kashmir.

    South Tibet is in the boil again recently. It starts out when two jawans were detained by local police (make up of local Tibetans) after they allegedly molested two Tibetan girls in a festival causing the Indian army (make up of Indians) to ransack the police station and threaten the local police to 'keep their hands off their boys'. The situation deteriorates so bad that the Indian defense minister flew in to deliver a stern warning to the local people that the army has the fully backing of the state.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYKnNbw4S7Q

    The Tibetans in South Tibet are seething with anger for a long time but they are voiceless. Nobody in the West give a hoot on their plight. They are not the right kind of Tibetans. Free South Tibet!

  145. @Ray Huffman
    Every time I’d see one of those I used to think “Free Tibet? Exactly how are we gonna do that, Slick?

    Non-violent resistance ala Ghandi and King, coupled with liberal fairy dust.

    “Non-violent resistance ala Ghandi and King, coupled with liberal fairy dust.”

    Non-violent resistance à la Gandhi definitely won’t work. Even violent resistance à la the Dalai Liar (China’s Ahmad Chalabi) has been tried and haven’t work.

    To free Tibet you free South Tibet first, then after South Tibet is free you have a base and you work your way up and free the rest of Tibet, like the British Raj was trying to do at one time.

    In case you couldn’t locate South Tibet on a map, the place has been renamed to Arunachal Pradesh and made a state by India in 1987. India invaded South Tibet in 1951, four years after the Raj has already left and occupy it to this day. South Tibet includes historic Tawang, birthplace of the Sixth Dalai Lama and home to a four hundred years old Tibetan monastery.

    South Tibet has been restless for a long time and India knows it. This is the reason India imposes a law that allows the state to detain or kill anyone with impunity. The law called AFSPA (Armed Force Special Power Act) dates back to the British colonial times and is a law meant to intimidate the locals and suppress dissents. Today India imposes AFSPA on area it deemed ‘disturbed’, such as South Tibet, the northeast and Kashmir.

    South Tibet is in the boil again recently. It starts out when two jawans were detained by local police (make up of local Tibetans) after they allegedly molested two Tibetan girls in a festival causing the Indian army (make up of Indians) to ransack the police station and threaten the local police to ‘keep their hands off their boys’. The situation deteriorates so bad that the Indian defense minister flew in to deliver a stern warning to the local people that the army has the fully backing of the state.

    The Tibetans in South Tibet are seething with anger for a long time but they are voiceless. Nobody in the West give a hoot on their plight. They are not the right kind of Tibetans. Free South Tibet!

    • Replies: @Ray Huffman
    Non-violent resistance à la Gandhi definitely won’t work.

    Yes, I know. Hence my sarcastic comment about "liberal fairy dust."
  146. @Felix....
    I would have no problem with this strategy if the United States government was controlled by the majority population of the United States, namely white goys. However, the United States government is at this stage simply a vehicle for Jewish ambition, particularly in the realm of foreign policy.

    If American interference in China led to white goys such as myself ruling over 1.3 billion Chinese and enjoying the hospitality of their females, I'd be 1000% for it. It is the wish of every non-cucked red blooded man to conquer foreign lands and enjoy the spoils of conquest. On the other hand, I have no wish to see the money, lives, and resources of white goys channeled for the purpose of installing Jews as the ruling class of China, which is what would actually happen if your "American" foreign policy objectives regarding China were completely realized.

    To summarize my stance on the Chinese question in descending order of favored outcomes:

    1) White goys rule China
    2) The Chinese rule China
    .....
    .....
    3)Kristol's tribe that hates people like me uses the resources of people like me to rule China. Would be literal cuckoldry.

    What the hell is wrong with you? You’re a psychopath.

  147. @PhysicistDave
    Desiderius wrote:

    The problem you’ve got is that your post-Jews have ganged up with our post-Christians to make conversion to Globohomocorpianty mandatory.
     
    Well, you remember Chesterton's point: the problem is not that when people give up faith in Christianity that they then believe in nothing but rather that they will then believe in anything.

    Odd how credulous post-Christians (and post-Jews) are. (I say this as someone who never was a believer but is merely noting a fact.)

    If they weren’t credulous they’d have never abandoned God in the first place.

    Eve in the Garden redux.

    Social Justistry is the trophy wife of those who’ve grown apart from God, and as with any other trophy wife those who’ve embraced her will be subjected to an endless series of increasingly absurd demands lest that trophy wife fall victim to the same fate suffered by the first love.

  148. @DB Cooper
    "Non-violent resistance ala Ghandi and King, coupled with liberal fairy dust."

    Non-violent resistance à la Gandhi definitely won't work. Even violent resistance à la the Dalai Liar (China's Ahmad Chalabi) has been tried and haven't work.

    To free Tibet you free South Tibet first, then after South Tibet is free you have a base and you work your way up and free the rest of Tibet, like the British Raj was trying to do at one time.

    In case you couldn't locate South Tibet on a map, the place has been renamed to Arunachal Pradesh and made a state by India in 1987. India invaded South Tibet in 1951, four years after the Raj has already left and occupy it to this day. South Tibet includes historic Tawang, birthplace of the Sixth Dalai Lama and home to a four hundred years old Tibetan monastery.

    South Tibet has been restless for a long time and India knows it. This is the reason India imposes a law that allows the state to detain or kill anyone with impunity. The law called AFSPA (Armed Force Special Power Act) dates back to the British colonial times and is a law meant to intimidate the locals and suppress dissents. Today India imposes AFSPA on area it deemed 'disturbed', such as South Tibet, the northeast and Kashmir.

    South Tibet is in the boil again recently. It starts out when two jawans were detained by local police (make up of local Tibetans) after they allegedly molested two Tibetan girls in a festival causing the Indian army (make up of Indians) to ransack the police station and threaten the local police to 'keep their hands off their boys'. The situation deteriorates so bad that the Indian defense minister flew in to deliver a stern warning to the local people that the army has the fully backing of the state.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYKnNbw4S7Q

    The Tibetans in South Tibet are seething with anger for a long time but they are voiceless. Nobody in the West give a hoot on their plight. They are not the right kind of Tibetans. Free South Tibet!

    Non-violent resistance à la Gandhi definitely won’t work.

    Yes, I know. Hence my sarcastic comment about “liberal fairy dust.”

  149. anon[202] • Disclaimer says:

    I would very strongly suspect that someone important has perused this blog or webzine just before, during, or after the 2018 midterms. Some of the panic/change of heart Kristol and a few others have expressed over China and demographics (and military spending) tracks with some of the lengthy, and often quite detailed, posts on the rise of China I’ve seen floating around here. I think their fantasy bubble has been burst.

    Case it point: the Ruling Class falsely assumed that China would either collapse or, failing that, a multicultural USA would be a beacon to the world and help maintain a global imperial order; they thought that these areas of the world would be more willing to bow to a USA not based explicitly on a majority race. Turns out, however, the opposite will come to pass. Both Japan and the EU are held to the United States through cultural links to white Europeans in the United States. Neither Europe nor Japan will want to be ruled over by Alexandria Cortez or Kamala Harris types, even assuming this demographic won’t just shut down military spending in favor of unworkable social programs (they will). The radical left’s terrorist assaults on American statues and cemeteries back in 2016 and 2017 already shocked the world, to say the least. Europe and Japan may very well decide they want to get out before it is too late.

    The Japanese, for example, consider “American” to equate to “white.” You see this in their anime cartoons, their movies, their understanding of Western culture, their fashion trends, their understanding of American movies and celebrities, and their desire to dye their hair like some Europeans. The Japanese idolize white Americans/Europeans and white American/Western culture, but many of them don’t comprehend the scale of the demographic change that has occurred since even the 1990s. A president Kamala Harris or a governor Stacey Adams may wake them up to this reality pretty soon.

    On the other side of the world, Europe is bound to the US culturally by racial affiliation, at least tacitly. Many Europeans like the idea of using American platforms like YouTube, learn English, and dream of coming to Hollywood to be a director or actor. However, once white Europeans become a hated minority in the US and television and American movies start catering mainly to a non-European demographic (already well in progress), why wouldn’t these people want to go their own way and focus on their own industries? You are already seeing hints of this with the proposed EU army and Article 13, which is a clandestine effort to kick out US internet giants like YouTube. And South Korea has already set the precedent for Japan one day kicking out the US from Okinawa to make peace with China. Expect the EU to do the same to the US once they sense the right moment; they’ve already worked with China to build an alternate payment system to thwart US sanctions on Iran.

    Combine that with all the following observations and you have a perfect storm for China to take over the world: the real world-weakness of the US military against a peer or near-peer level rival, the limited willingness of the public to fight a war with China, demographic trends and race-based voting, whites getting sick of global conflict, growing political correctness in the US making the country less competitive culturally (this will accelerate exponentially once CGI approaches photorealism), the coup in Venezuela proving the lower classes really can rise up and ruin things, India pulling away from the US as the US goes extreme left, ballooning US debt, Australia becoming a Chinese colony, New Zealand becoming majority Asian, China’s Silk Road coming to fruition, and doubts about the ability of US companies to compete against their Asian rivals while being steeped in harmful multiculturalism.

    How long will it be before someone like Cortez rises up and ruins Silicon Valley with idiotic diversity quotas like Venezuela’s incompetent Chavez government ruined their oil industry? Seems like the clock is ticking, and Trump, Chavez, and Bolsanaro have shown how weak the deep state’s ability to control the masses is getting.

    How much longer until the EU, cracking under migrant strain, tries to unite both the radical right and the radical left against the US as a means of taking off the pressure? This may not be long at all. Once the GOP is done for, the European right will drop pretenses and start blaming the US for the migrant issue. A guy like Macron who wants an EU army might take advantage of that. Watch out.

    By 2060, if current trends continue, the US will be expelled from most of Asia and Europe and China may very well have troops in Mexico and Canada. China’s economy will also be far more dominant than the American economy because there is simply no way 200 million aging whites can compete against 1 billion high-IQ Han Chinese while financially supporting a huge number of unproductive minorities. And that assumes the US is still even around in the first place. By that time, US whites may very well check out or be brain-drained into China as the American population becomes ever more racist and ungovernable; whites have shown a penchant for white flight, after all.

  150. @415 reasons
    Can we get a regime change in the US first?

    The Deep State is working on it. That is, unless you consider the Deep State the true regime.

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