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From the New York Times, a good piece explaining the often nonobivous reasons that racial ancestry is a big deal in blood transfusions:

The Intersection of Race and Blood

Blood can be racially or ethnically specific, so having more blood donors in certain groups can be crucial for saving the lives of patients who share their backgrounds.

By Rose George
May 14, 2019

“We need black blood.”

I didn’t know what to say to this, not least because it had been said by the head of donor services at England’s National Health Service Blood and Transplant. The interview was for a book I was writing on blood, a topic I knew a little about by then, but the baldness of his statement still shocked me. Surely we’re all the same under the skin?

… While no one is suggesting forced segregation of blood bags, it’s now scientifically established that blood can be racially or ethnically specific.

Most people know about the eight major blood groups: A, B, AB and O, each of which can be positive or negative (the Rh factor). These are determined by genes, and what group you are depends on what combination of proteins and sugars — antigens — are on the outside of your red blood cells. The International Society of Blood Transfusion lists 360 known antigens, but the combinations are infinitely more. …

A successful blood transfusion relies on sameness. If incoming blood has an antigen that you lack, your body can react badly to it. … Patients who need regular blood transfusions — those who have sickle cell disease, thalassemia or leukemia, for example — may face an ever decreasing pool of suitable blood because they keep creating antibodies.

Wouldn’t it be easier if all our blood was the same? Blame bugs. Much of the variance “has been driven by evolutionary selection by bacteria, malaria and parasites,” says Connie Westhoff, executive scientific director at the National Center for Blood Group Genomics at the New York Blood Center. …

Sickle cell trait is now known to protect against malaria, which is why sickle cell, a painful and debilitating disease caused by malformed blood cells, is found frequently — but not only — in people with African heritage, because malaria thrives in Africa.

… In a diverse population like that of the United States, finding a matched donor becomes more challenging for a patient with a mixed ethnic background.

“Let’s say you have someone with African roots and someone from Asian descent coming together, and then they have an offspring of mixed ethnicities,” Dr. Madbouly said. “You have an African HLA and an HLA type common in Asian areas coming together to form a new type of HLA that is not common in either.”

Though Be the Match added nearly two million donors to its registry last year, only 30 percent were what Dr. Madbouly calls “diverse.” That’s not enough.

… Sickle cell disease is predominantly found in African-Americans, and thalassemia among South Asians, and both conditions require precisely matched blood. But there is a shortfall between ethnic minority patients who need blood, and ethnic minority donors. In New York, Caucasians are 35 percent of the population but 58 percent of donors. Twenty-eight percent of New Yorkers are African-American but only eight percent of donors, and that’s after five years of hard work and outreach by the New York Blood Center with its PreciseMatch campaign.

Even so, there was trouble when the Blood Center began in 2009 to offer the option to “self-declare” ethnicity on its donor forms. This was efficient: without a budget to precisely screen every donation, they could home in on antigens known to be specific to certain populations. At first there were problems, when staff members were initially upset by this apparent division of blood by ethnicity. “We didn’t educate the staff,” says Dr. Westhoff, “to know that we weren’t segregating the blood just to be segregating. We were doing it to send all the African-American units to the sickle program children because they were doing much better with blood that came from this same ethnic group.”

Rose George is a British journalist whose books include “Nine Pints: A Journey Through the Money, Medicine, and Mysteries of Blood.”

It’s almost as if the conventional wisdom ever since Bill Clinton’s 2000 Rose Garden speech on the Human Genome Project about race is not a biological reality isn’t wholly, you know, true.

An anonymous iSteve commenter adds:

I give the writer credit for presenting the facts without adding any race-denying, face-saving spin. Especially this part:

Even so, there was trouble when the Blood Center began in 2009 to offer the option to “self-declare” ethnicity on its donor forms. This was efficient: without a budget to precisely screen every donation, they could home in on antigens known to be specific to certain populations. At first there were problems, when staff members were initially upset by this apparent division of blood by ethnicity. “We didn’t educate the staff,” says Dr. Westhoff, “to know that we weren’t segregating the blood just to be segregating. We were doing it to send all the African-American units to the sickle program children because they were doing much better with blood that came from this same ethnic group.”

Note that unlike in everything else published by the Times, here it is the race-deniers are “staff” (i.e. low class) who need to be “educated” (how many times have we heard this term before?) out of their primitive racial hangups. This is how you “redpill” a NYT reader–appeal to the intense yuppie liberal desire to be a successful, with-the-times Dr; not some clueless, resentful staff.

 
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  1. Anon[378] • Disclaimer says:

    So blacks can request black blood. Can whites request white blood?

    As an unintended consequence, it doesn’t hurt to firewall off blood from populations at higher risk of HIV, like the black community. And do those hair product chemicals find their way into blood?

  2. There was a MASH episode in the 1970s that ridiculed a white soldier casualty for asking if the blood that he received was from a white or a black. Looks as if the “bigot” knew more than the screenwriters.

    • Agree: bomag, Travis
    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    , @Wilkey
  3. Caucasians are 35 percent of the population but 58 percent of donors.

    Surprise surprise. It’s that nasty “disparate impact” thing again. If the situation were reversed, the MSM would be full of calls to draw the blood from white people by force, or at least by force of law.

    Leading the charge, of course, would be GoodWhites and Fellow White People, acting in concert.

  4. Chewie111 says:

    “In New York, Caucasians are 35 percent of the population but 58 percent of donors. Twenty-eight percent of New Yorkers are African-American but only eight percent of donors.”

    That just shows how lop-sided the levels of altruism and general good samaritanship are between whites and blacks. African-Americans are among the most selfish, greedy, and corrupt two who couldn’t give a toss about potentially alleviating someone’s suffering or providing someone else an opportunity to thrive.

  5. I am O Negative, the universal donor whose blood can be used by all, but I could only be transfused with O Negative. I used to be a regular donor to the Red Cross but their frequent phone calls for donations became a pain. I proposed to our local school system that eligible students be allowed to substitute a blood donation for community service.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    , @Iw
    , @JMcG
  6. I don’t understand. Race is merely a social construct; a kind of legal fiction. Why could it possibly matter for medical and biochemical reasons in hematology?

    • Replies: @Federalist
  7. Sean says:

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/a-political-scientist-defends-white-identity-politics-eric-kaufmann-whiteshift-book

    Really, what it is is the correlation at the level of the individual in survey data between views on immigration and how high you prioritize immigration issues. It’s been by far the strongest thing predicting voting for the populist right. That’s the core, if you like, of why it’s centrally about immigration, and that class and economic stuff is much, much weaker in all these models.

    Now, the question about the left: this is really about the supply issue and why mainstream parties weren’t supplying the rhetoric or policies on immigration that so fire up these voters. I think that, to get there, you do need to explain the normative strictures that were there.

  8. Ron Unz says:

    Well, architects and engineers will run into all sorts of practical difficulties if the official scientific doctrine of their society is that “Rocks Fall Upward!” and purges anyone who disagrees…

  9. @Autochthon

    Exactly.

    And this can’t be true either:
    “Sickle cell trait is now known to protect against malaria, which is why sickle cell, is found frequently in people with African heritage, because malaria thrives in Africa.”

    All groups of people are the same. They can’t evolve differently. They’re all equally intelligent, for example.

  10. MBlanc46 says:

    “Surely we’re all the same under the skin?” This is from a supposedly educated person in the West in the 21st century. Surely, John Derbyshire is right.

  11. White people donate blood far,far more than the People of Color? Lies,sir,lies and mendacity!
    POC love nature and the rhythms of life while whites are cold and mean!
    No,POC are donating blood,but its being stolen by white supremacists to keep them alive and to cure their diseases!
    They are cave beasts!!
    And Eric Holder was a patsy used by the devils to bring down a great leader!

    • Replies: @Gunner
  12. Decades ago I worked for a firm that made a variety of diagnostic laboratory products, many of which used human blood in their formulation or as test material that was used to check other products’ manufacturing process stages. Twice a week I was paid $50 cash for a 15 ml. vial of my blood because it had antigens valuable to the manufacture of one of the diagnostic products. After the demand for those antigens fell off, every two months I was paid $50 cash for donation of a full unit of blood that was less valuable in the making of another product. That’s how I learned of the complex specificity of human blood.

  13. @MBlanc46

    This is what they actually believe. That race is literally just skin colour.

  14. Lagertha says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    well, if you ever need blood, I am your buddy. I also, avoid the Red Cross (many reasons) because I am iron deficient and need to keep up the diet. Plus, blood is tossed after a time – they never tell donors that. There is no refrigeration process for blood.

  15. Polynices says:

    Worse than just the initial compatibility problems is that if you need lots of blood transfusions (for something like sickle cell) you get increasingly sensitized to antigens that you could initially tolerate and you start needing more and more specific blood.

    There are patients who if they suddenly need surgery the blood bank has to call up specific donors in hopes of getting blood from them because they are the only people who can safely donate to this particular patient.

    I’ve also seen a woman who died from complications of blood loss in a major hospital OR because while there was plenty of donor blood around she was so sensitized from previous transfusions that none of it could be given to her. The extremely rare blood that could be safely given to her was in very short supply and the operation ran long and the blood loss exceeded what they were ready for.

    Someday they’ll get artificial blood working but we’ve been saying that for decades.

    • Replies: @prime noticer
  16. Iw says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    I too am O Negative. What is your ethnic background?

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
  17. Abe says:

    I was a frequent blood donor until a medical condition made me (I think, my doctors couldn’t definitively say) ineligible. Before that, though, I donated pretty much to the maximum extent possible when giving whole blood, then stepped it up when plasma and platelet donations became available at my blood center (though I donated a bit less than the maximum for those as I simply did not have enough free 2 hour windows in my work week schedule; plus the procedure made me feel a bit icky).

    But of course, the solution to a diversifying America where blood donations are 70% below required levels among the nonwhite population is to increase immigration by 70%. What could go wrong!

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  18. Now that we have blood worked out, how does soil work into the equation?

    • Replies: @Oswald Spengler
  19. I’ve read about – but not seen – an extremely tasteless joke in the Seth McFarlane movie Ted 2 which involves a mishap with unusable sickle cell affected African American donations in a sperm bank.

  20. I still don’t understand why they don’t just pay people to give blood. They pay for plasma. What exactly is the issue with paying people, ethically speaking? Paying would fix the ethnic disparities too in donors. White people need to stop being suckers.

  21. It’s almost as if the conventional wisdom ever since Bill Clinton’s 2000 Rose Garden speech on the Human Genome Project about race is not a biological reality isn’t wholly, you know, true.

    I see what you’re doing there and second the motion. Blaming it all on Slick Willie might just be the key to ending our long national nightmare. Even HRC would be on board.

    • Replies: @Prusmc
  22. guest says:

    Do black people have folk conspiracy theories about blood segregation, like everything else? I know racism warps genes and causes sickled cells, but does it act upon blood in general? Is there a Tuskegee-type tale of blood tampering?

  23. The interview was for a book I was writing on blood, a topic I knew a little about by then, but the baldness of his statement still shocked me. Surely we’re all the same under the skin?

    This is all a primer for the racism that follows:

    Most people know about the eight major blood groups: A, B, AB an-

    No need to go on. Racism, that’s all there’s to say. A racist, Nazi fiction presented as something that ”most people know about”. Look at Karl Landsteiner. It’s Hitler himself. When did the New York Times start letting sympathizers of such ”ideas” write for them?

  24. @Charles Erwin Wilson 3

    “Now that we have blood worked out, how does soil work into the equation?”

    Magic Dirt Theory?

    • Replies: @Dtbb
  25. sounds like a self correcting problem. or, it would be, if europeans weren’t always trying to save everybody, no matter what.

    instead, thanks to idiot european altruists, we’re gonna end up with dozens of weird mix humans who can barely get transfusions, organ transplants, or cancer treatments.

    in the past, nature would take care of this. but now, as with ultra low infant mortality, we’ll expend extra energy, effort, money, and time, to keep these weird, pointless people around.

    i liked the part about africans being only 8% of donors, and that was after a campaign to get more of them to donate. my reaction? so what. let random africans die if africans don’t want to donate african blood. oh no, the poor africans who are going to overrun us won’t be able to avoid nature calling because africans don’t care about donating blood to save other africans.

    do it all, european man. make sure every other group expands, multiplies, and outnumbers you at your own expense.

  26. Tusk says:

    Funnily enough I read this article yesterday: https://www.news-medical.net/news/20190514/New-study-on-viability-of-donated-livers-and-its-correlation-with-donor-demographics.aspx

    In a paper to be published in a forthcoming issue of TECHNOLOGY, a group of researchers from Harvard Medical School have done a study on the viability of donated livers and its correlation with donor demographics…Donor demographics such as race and gender had significant impacts on viability and yield while demographics such as BMI, age, donor status, cause of death did not.

    Maybe viability is a social construct?

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
  27. @Polynices

    “Someday they’ll get artificial blood working but we’ve been saying that for decades.”

    a very serious project, that one would hope some of these eccentric billionaires would decide to focus on and crack. if not the medical corporations. there is an artificial skin lab in germany, where they’ve been making flesh for a while now. i’m not sure how much volume they can produce.

    and while there are a few billionaires working on actual, serious problems and trying to crack stuff we haven’t been able to solve yet, the vast majority of them work on vanity projects.

    i know i’m getting old, because i only see the negative here. once we do have artificial lab blood, it will mainly just be used to keep the useless humans around. the homosexuals with rampant STDs, super weak disease patients who will need a lifetime supply of the stuff just to stay alive, and various other gimp humans who will offer zero ROI to society in general.

    artificial blood will mean that humans get even weaker. people who should die, instead will live to pass on their weakness to offspring.

    yes, it will be great to finally have the good, useful people not dying from lack of blood. my dad’s mom had some unusual version of B negative antibodies that somewhat contributed to her dying from a cancer surgery. but she was old. i’d rather the old, good people die as usual in their 70s and 80s, than we start keeping guys like Brian Sims and his homo friends alive.

  28. bomag says:
    @S. Anonyia

    … just pay people…

    The more I see, the less I become a fan of monetizing everything. Ghettos are pretty famous for getting lots of money to get this and that done, but not much materializes.

    There must be a study somewhere (Putnam?) that relates volunteerism to social health.

  29. opportunity for some sort of woke, intersectional vampire television show or movie here, though.

    vampires don’t care about blood types. or do they? tune in tonight, for “Racist Vampire”.

    when Vlad went to sleep in 2019, europe was full of europeans. but when we woke in 2099, suddenly there was barely a white person left to snack on. watch a fish out of water tale about Vlad the Racist Vampire, bumbling around in the new, improved Europe of 2099.

  30. Dtbb says:
    @Oswald Spengler

    Here’s a future teaching moment. Someone of the gutterance persuasion, like Nipsey, gets popped full of caps and desperately needs “black blood”. The confusion and finger pointing will be glorious.

  31. @HammerJack

    As far as blacks think about these things, it’s “Slabery equals ‘I already gave at the office.’”

    Since their past contributions from 150-plus years ago were extracted by force, that means that the future is permanently for free.

    Because nobody else ever in all of human history was ever a slabe, or was ever oppressed.

    So stop policing black bodies! Also, other buzzwords!

  32. a reader says:

    The Intersection of Race and Blood

    … and Oil.

    Here is King Harald V of Norway with his family.

    His daughter Princess Märtha Louise has just found her True-Real-Only LOVE.

    • Replies: @Tiny Duck
    , @midtown
    , @Pericles
  33. @HammerJack

    White people steal the black blood to make axle grease for Hummers, everybody knows that!

    Sounds absurd, but I’ll bet most of the “explanations” offered on this disparity are no less batshit insane.

    • LOL: Old Prude
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  34. @Iw

    I’m O positive, British & German ancestry, white

  35. Caucasians are 35 percent of the population but 58 percent of donors.

    What are the figures for semen?

  36. @prime noticer

    artificial blood will mean that humans get even weaker.

    But on the plus dide, synthetic blood is a useful substitute for vampires who would otherwise be compelled to feed on humans.

    https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/trueblood/images/5/5d/Trublood2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090723200820

  37. a reader says:

    After all, the guy is a scientist.

  38. Anonymous[921] • Disclaimer says:
    @MBlanc46

    I give the writer credit for presenting the facts without adding any race-denying, face-saving spin. Especially this part:

    Even so, there was trouble when the Blood Center began in 2009 to offer the option to “self-declare” ethnicity on its donor forms. This was efficient: without a budget to precisely screen every donation, they could home in on antigens known to be specific to certain populations. At first there were problems, when staff members were initially upset by this apparent division of blood by ethnicity. “We didn’t educate the staff,” says Dr. Westhoff, “to know that we weren’t segregating the blood just to be segregating. We were doing it to send all the African-American units to the sickle program children because they were doing much better with blood that came from this same ethnic group.”

    Note that unlike in everything else published by the Times, here it is the race-deniers are “staff” (i.e. low class) who need to be “educated” (how many times have we heard this term before?) out of their primitive racial hangups. This is how you “redpill” a NYT reader–appeal to the intense yuppie liberal desire to be a successful, with-the-times Dr; not some clueless, resentful staff.

  39. @Tusk

    Those who reject organs or blood from a donor of a different race prove themselves to be racist. It could be a new test like the witchcraft tests used in Salem.

  40. Cortes says:
    @HammerJack

    The donor screening process is important.

    https://www.blood.co.uk/who-can-give-blood/can-i-give-blood/

    Having been given transfusions during a period of concerns about contamination I cannot donate.

    Most significant ethnic groups in the UK have had publicity campaigns to make people aware of the importance of blood donation for compatibility issues. (In passing I recall being shocked when reading stories about junkies and winos selling their blood in the US; the only “rewards” donors receive in the UK are “milestone donation” certificates – my wife has been a donor since she was 18.)

    https://www.blood.co.uk/the-donation-process/recognising-donors/

    • Replies: @jim jones
  41. Tiny Duck says:
    @a reader

    Beautiful couple

    The future

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    , @Mr. Anon
  42. @Chewie111

    Same on altruism in the UK (the volunteers who cleaned up UK cities after the 2011 riots were mostly white, unlike most of the rioters).

    As I posted a while back, when the NHS were appealing for 40,000 black blood donors

    https://www.blood.co.uk/news-and-campaigns/the-donor-magazine-winter-2017/why-we-need-more-black-blood-donors/

    The NHS is full of hate facts about levels of altruism.

    https://www.blood.co.uk/why-give-blood/the-need-for-blood/black-asian-and-minority-ethnic-communities/

    “While people from all communities and backgrounds do give blood, fewer than 5% of our blood donors who gave blood in the last year were from black, Asian and minority ethnic communities. This is despite black, Asian and minority ethnic communities representing around 14% of the population.”

    So 95%+ of donors are white although they’re only 86% of the population.

    But there are relatively fewer young white people – about 30% of primary school kids are ‘minority’. What implications is this going to have?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13748004

    “Experts are worried about a generation gap in blood donors as figures show a 20% drop in the number of young people giving blood during the past decade.”

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  43. @YetAnotherAnon

    This is despite black, Asian and minority ethnic communities representing around 14% of the population.”

    Hear that, England? There’s still time to turn this around. But the hour is getting late. The voices of the enslaved future generations of your people are calling out to you. Will you need their call?

    Most peoples in human history who have found themselves enslaved either didn’t see it coming or lost out in a violent, total war. But you can see this coming, and so far have failed to begin fighting.

    Speaking of losing out in a war, simply glance at us across the ocean and know that your future looks grim. Unless you stand and fight.

    • Replies: @Neuday
  44. jim jones says:
    @Cortes

    I have never given blood and never will, altruism is destructive unless confined to your family

    • Replies: @Wilkey
  45. “If you prick us, do we not bleed?”

    Even as a kid I thought that was a poor argument. If you prick a mouse it will bleed, but that doesn’t mean I’m not going to fold it up in a glue trap and throw it in the bin.

  46. @prime noticer

    Actually, good, old people used to die in their 50s and 60s. That’s a big part of why society seems so screwed up; way too many old people using resources that used to go to young people. How many people in their 20s and early 30s would start to have families if they had 7.65% more of their pay in their pocket?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    , @Wilkey
  47. @Tiny Duck

    Too bad he’s going to marry her, then get a bunch of Vikings and go slave trading in Africa.

  48. @Oleaginous Outrager

    Black people, even more than whites (and considering the number of whites who are stupid on the subject, that’s something) know it’s all just a scam to kidnap you and steal your organs.

  49. I type before you as a Citizen of The World.
    I am in my pajamas, and I am at my tablet. I have my latest technology. I am hip, I am cool.

    Let me be perfectly clear. This is above my pay grade. Well, actually, I am raking it in since I left “public office”, heh heh.
    But, never mind my income. I have the income y’all folks give back. Because fairness.

    I think is it hilarious that I and my followers can say “y’all” un-ironically. I love my use of that.

    If folks like folks blood type, folks can keep folks blood type. Just don’t get injured so that you commit excessive use of our public medical system. If those bitter clingers would stop shooting their guns in churches, while carrying a pocket New Testament in their shirt pocket as a small-spot form of body armor, their would be less bleeding out.

    So that’s it. Abolish the Second Amendment, turn in all your guns, sing Kumbaya. Problem solved.

    Oh, and increase immigration.

    BTW, I have evolved to where I like those tax cuts for Big Tech, so that I and my fellow progressives can thoughtfully re-direct the speech and publishing of folks who are like my grandmother:

    A typical white person.

    I think this will all work together for folks highest and best values.

  50. slumber_j says:
    @HammerJack

    Caucasians are 35 percent of the population but 58 percent of donors.

    Lending new meaning to “White Girl Bleed A Lot.”

  51. @Redneck farmer

    In order to hide its magnitude, the Social Security (“FICA”) tax is levied half on you and half on your employer on your behalf. Economically there is no difference, but only half of the levy appears on your paystub.

    So in other words, the real number is more like 15%.

  52. @Diversity Heretic

    Lol. I had the exact same recollection while reading the article.

    Here it is:

    After ridiculing this character, the episode culminates with the protagonists delivering a (false) lecture about the death of “black” Dr. Charles Drew, bloodbank pioneer and Bob Hope lookalike.

  53. Wilkey says:

    In New York, Caucasians are 35 percent of the population but 58 percent of donors. Twenty-eight percent of New Yorkers are African-American but only eight percent of donors, and that’s after five years of hard work and outreach.

    The future of America explained, summed up in an article about blood donation.

    • Agree: Travis, YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Yngvar
  54. Wilkey says:
    @Diversity Heretic

    There was a MASH episode in the 1970s that ridiculed a white soldier casualty for asking if the blood that he received was from a white or a black. Looks as if the “bigot” knew more than the screenwriters.

    I remember that episode. There were (at least) two lies told in that episode: that Charles Drew “invented” blood donation, and that he died because he was refused treatment at a “whites only” hospital. It was the 1980s version of #FakeNews – and it was seen by a lot more people than any #FakeNews ever seen nowadays, and there was no real way to refute it.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  55. Anon[219] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t expect BN to know, but, working in a biology lab, you end up using a surprising amount of human blood products. For example, if you go on Fisher Scientific (sort of an Amazon one-stop for multiple manufacturers), you can find today 405 matches for “human albumin”. You are taking this altruism thing further than the Red Cross does.

  56. peterike says:

    Well if the problem is related to blood, can’t we just get Elizabeth Holmes to fix the problem?

  57. Wilkey says:
    @jim jones

    I have never given blood and never will, altruism is destructive unless confined to your family.

    Altruism confined to the family is clannishness. That describes the Middle East (and so much of the rest of the world) perfectly. “Altruism” at the point of a gun, enforced by tye government, is another matter entirely.

  58. RonaldB says:
    @prime noticer

    You’re taking a Darwinian approach to medical treatment. While I am pretty much in accord with you, I should point out that by this approach, any medical treatment at all is dysgenic. That is, it allows the weaker and more susceptible to being wounded or infected to live and reproduce.

    I would like to suggest an alternative pathway, which is to withdraw all public subsidy of medical treatment and all legal restrictions on certain contracts. Allow the mega-billionaires to fund medical treatment and, if they wish, put a condition on the funding that recipients submit to sterilization. This would allow us the benefits of aging, but remove the problem that medical technology and the welfare state subsidizes the weaker genes at the expense of the stronger.

  59. RonaldB says:
    @S. Anonyia

    If you just pay people off the street, and get people whose motivation is to donate blood for money, they are far less likely to answer truthfully on screening questionnaires. Thus, your being exposed to a risk factor that a lab test might not recognize is increased. For example, last time I heard, there was a period between being exposed to HIV and having it show up on a test, which depends on the presence of antibodies.

    So, voluntary donors will be less likely to lie about, say, being homosexual, which would, hopefully, disqualify them from donating, as they are in a high-risk group.

    I might make an exception of the blood supplier had a liability for their blood. That is, if their blood causes something like HIV, they are exposed to damages. This would give them an incentive to cultivate donors who are reliable and truthful.

  60. Mr. Anon says:
    @Tiny Duck

    Beautiful couple

    The future

    She’s beautiful, and of a beautiful type. And none of her descendants will look like she does.

    The future is ugly and banal. You’ll fit right in.

    • Replies: @Marquandian Hero
  61. Mr. Anon says:
    @Wilkey

    I remember that episode. There were (at least) two lies told in that episode: that Charles Drew “invented” blood donation, and that he died because he was refused treatment at a “whites only” hospital. It was the 1980s version of #FakeNews – and it was seen by a lot more people than any #FakeNews ever seen nowadays, and there was no real way to refute it.

    MASH was liberal propaganda in the form of a sit-com. Often funny and ably written, but propaganda none-the-less. Coming on the heals of our last “Forever War”, Vietnam, it had a decidedly anti-war tone. Funny, Hollywood doesn’t seem to have much problem with our current Forever War.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
  62. Spangel says:

    Blood protein analysis was the original basis of Lewontin’s claim that there is more difference within races than between. 99% of people who use that phrase don’t understand it or what it refers to. In the time Lewontin did his research, to use blood types as an example, the vast majority of blood types were found in all races. You had Black a+, black o- etc. There were only a few ethnic groups where a blood type did not occur.

    However, even based on blood protein analysis, there were always large significant differences in the distribution of blood types across different racial groups. Thus, Lewiston’s data never supported the idea that no average differences existed between groups or that the frequency of a phenotype was identical across groups. The phrase that there are more differences within than between groups could only be used to show that human races were not categorically discrete, but not that they were equal on average on any given attribute.

  63. Wilkey says:
    @Redneck farmer

    That’s a big part of why society seems so screwed up; way too many old people using resources that used to go to young people. How many people in their 20s and early 30s would start to have families if they had 7.65% more of their pay in their pocket?

    Liberalism, libertinism, and the sexual revolution are what is causing fewer young people to start families. The wealth is certainly there. But you’re right about the costs of caring for the elderly. We now pay them massive amounts of money each year to sit around for decades watching The Price is Right and Golden Girls reruns. Many or most of them have higher health care bills in a month than most working age people will have in a decade. This is not to bash the elderly. I have parents, too. But how we as a society deal with the costs of their care without assuming massive amounts of debt has yet to be figured out.

    The four biggest items in the federal budget, iirc, are Defense, Medicare, Social Security, and interest on the debt. Without controlling them we will never balance the budget, and we appear to have no interest whatsoever in doing that.

    More than that, I think that what enables a lot of political and societal stupidity is the fact that we don’t even try to balance the budget. All of that deficit spending has made liberal stupidity essentially painless. If we had to keep the budget balanced and pay for every dime the government spent there’s a lot of idiotic thinking that would be snuffed out rather quickly. And if it weren’t so easy for young adults to run up massive amounts of debt on worthless college classes a lot more stupidity would be squashed.

  64. @prime noticer

    artificial blood will mean that humans get even weaker. people who should die, instead will live to pass on their weakness to offspring.

    You’re mixing two kinds of statements here. The first statement, that artificial blood will mean that humans will get even weaker, may be objectively true or false, as long as we get to define ”weaker”. The second statement, that people who should die instead will get to live, is a value judgement, and can’t be said to be true or false. That’s just, like, your opinion, man.

    Also, while some certainly will pass their weakness to their offspring, I’m not so sure that most of the fellows who will get to live due to artificial blood will actually reproduce at all, given demographic trends, and if they do, that they will not try to make it so that their offspring does not have the same weakness they have. Technology makes this possible.

  65. It’s almost as if the conventional wisdom ever since Bill Clinton’s 2000 Rose Garden speech on the Human Genome Project about race is not a biological reality isn’t wholly, you know, true.

    Bill Clinton is an evil baby boomer rat who pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and sovereignty-sapping, job-killing trade deal scams and anti-White multicultural mayhem.

    Bill Clinton is a disgusting whore for evil rat shyster bankers and other globalizer rodents.

    Bill Clinton gave the green light to evil bankers to ramp up the inter-generational violence of the student loan debt attack on young Americans of all races and types.

    Tweets from 2015:

  66. Neuday says:
    @HammerJack

    I think our enslaved future generations, to the extent they exist, will understand that they come from an evil bloodline of people who did terrible things to blacks and jews, and also denied the wonderful glory of the buttsex, and therefore had to pay the price by sacrificing their civilization, their religion, their countries, communities and families. They are a tainted, evil people, and deserved what they got. Obviously, no change in curriculum will be required.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  67. Coemgen says:
    @S. Anonyia

    I still don’t understand why they don’t just pay people to give blood.

    Apparently, altruistic donors are significantly less likely to have blood borne diseases than mercenary donors.

    I’d wager that the credit scores could be effectively used to screen paid donors but would probably trigger media mass hysteria and lawsuits against the Red Cross etc. We are not allowed to have nice things.

  68. midtown says:
    @a reader

    She’s 47. The new boyfriend is a self-styled mystical guru. Clown world indeed.

  69. songbird says:

    While no one is suggesting forced segregation of blood bags

    One of the more disturbing SJW campaigns is to allow gays to donate.

  70. too bad you can’t specify who actually receives your blood. Consider that your donation is probably going to help some obese diabetic trash eke our a few more years of disability payments after his gangrenous leg is amputated—what a waste. if I knew my blood wasn’t going to be used like that I’d be more inclined to donate.

  71. @Chewie111

    No, the black population knows that they shouldn’t be giving tainted blood. The restrictions on who can give blood are enormous and exclude many of my clean-living white friends, myself included. Did you visit the UK in the 1980’s? Don’t give. Is your heartbeat irregular? Don’t give. Is that a cold or just allergies? Don’t give. Are you underweight? Don’t give. What’s your iron count? Don’t give. Terrified of needles? Don’t even try.

    Giving blood is no simple task, and it’s a small percentage of the population that does most of the giving.

  72. @S. Anonyia

    Paying for blood gets you a donor population that’s poorer and therefore sicker.

  73. Fmiik says:

    I am a mostly liberally educated attorney, so I am very much a lightweight on issues regarding the biological sciences.

    So I am always intrigued by articles like this.

    I then think to shock my medical doctor wife who doesn’t pay much attention to politics and culture by clueing her on recently discovered hate facts. She is (a) never surprised and (b) is generally already aware of them.

  74. Pericles says:
    @a reader

    She’s an embarrassment, and has been so for a long time if memory serves. Still, let’s hope that brotha is as gay as he looks.

  75. I used to donate blood regularly, but I lost interest.
    I’d be willing to start up again, if only “blood banks” were run more like, well, “banks”.
    If I’ve deposited, say, 16 pints of blood over the years, then when I need a transfusion the first 16 pints ought to be provided to me free of charge, or at nominal cost. The closest thing to that, is probably autologous donation.

  76. In South Africa there were similar statistics (from the 80’s) where whites were about 20% of the population but gave about 80% of the blood. SA was actualy a major exporter of blood to the surounding countries because the local blacks were unwilling to donate blood.
    The lack of donation was not just due to lower levels of altruism but also because of the fear of bewitchment as much of the witchdoctor (Sangoma) ‘s spells use body parts and blood is used in so called muti.

    There was a time when the local blood servisces were ditching a lot of black blood due to the rapid spread of HIV and the extended window period before the blood transfusion services could pick it up.
    Whem President mbeki heard that he insisted that race be removed as a criterion. hopefully we all dont get aids( about 30% of blacks are hiv positive.

    https://www.spotlightnsp.co.za/2018/10/08/more-black-people-donating-blood-in-sa/

  77. ““We need black blood.”

    Plenty to be found on the streets of Chicago any given day.

  78. What happened to Elizabeth Holmes solving all this? lol

  79. @Mr. Anon

    Agree with your point, but fortunately in this case she won’t be having any descendants with this character since she is nearly 48 years old.

  80. @Mr. Anon

    Most sit-coms were and are liberal propaganda. The night time dramas too. Remember Star Trek? Yikes!

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  81. JMcG says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Well Joe,
    I am the universal receiver, AB+. My brother is O-: He gets much more attention from the Red Cross, I get much more attention from the nurses.

  82. @stillCARealist

    Did you visit the UK in the 1980’s? Don’t give.

    Yes, I did my college junior year in the UK in the 80s, and I’m banned from giving blood just for that. It’s a pity, because I had no problems at all giving blood when I was allowed to do so, and I’m still willing to give regularly.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  83. @Neuday

    A bleak prognosis, which is not to say unlikely. A lot of people here like to believe this is defeatism, because we’re just about to turn this around! Here where we’re about 0,001% of the voting public. Sure. Could happen. Frankly I understand the appeal of denial. When it’s all one has left. However I also understand the appeal of fighting 🙂

  84. @The Last Real Calvinist

    I did my college junior year in the UK in the 80s, and I’m banned from giving blood just for that.

    That’s odd, so did I (89-90), but I don’t think I ever had trouble giving blood after that. I gave it up after passing out for the third time so it’s been awhile.

  85. @Desiderius

    That’s odd, so did I (89-90), but I don’t think I ever had trouble giving blood after that. I gave it up after passing out for the third time so it’s been awhile.

    Having lived in the UK at that time may not be a disqualifying factor in the USA, but it is here in HK. The rationale is potential exposure to Mad Cow Disease.

  86. Yngvar says:
    @Wilkey

    It might be so because the hopeful black potential donor was rejected after the initial screening the blood banks do. Might.

  87. Gunner says:
    @Father O'Hara

    That is paranoid enough to qualify for an article on The Root.

  88. @stillCARealist

    Back then they had the good writers on their side.

  89. Prusmc says:
    @Desiderius

    Wasn’t there a story about Bill’s time as governor and selling AIDES and JOB from the prison populations to Canada? No way ! not our Bill!

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