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As we all know from reading the newspapers, life in the few remaining majority male institutions, such as the Harvard Business School, is a living hell for young women: the insensitivity, the repulsive frat house culture, the constantly being asked out on dates by future captains of industry … Can anyone blame Harvard Business School female students for not making the Honor Roll when society forces them to spend so much time shopping for the perfect outfits for their dates with upperclassmen who are torn between offers from Goldman and Google?

Here, from an NYT article, is a comment from “mjs” on a heartland version of HBS: the Purdue engineering school. Sounding a little bit like a female equivalent of Frank Sinatra singing “When I Was Seventeen,” mjs reminisces:

Purdue this year still only had 30% of its freshman engineering class entering as females. I was the first female teaching assistant in my engineering major 32 years ago. I had no problem finding a date while attending Purdue for my Masters degree in engineering. Let’s see I had a boyfriend on the football team, whose roommate was the quarterback of the football team (who went pro);

Her boyfriend’s roommate was possibly Jim Everett. My experience with a comparable future NFL quarterback at a different engineering school was that the star QB’s roommate / best friend was the most popular and respected student on campus.

I also dated fellow engineering students, business majors, got set up with older brothers of my classmates. I was best friends with a number one pick in the NFL draft in his position, with another player. The odds are great when not many females are in your major, when you are smart and pick the non-traditional major …

Thankfully, lesbian-feminists, like Harvard Business School assistant dean Frances Frei, who is gay-married to a former female HBS student, are assiduously working to tell female students via both the press and one-on-one how oppressed they are by having all these eligible bachelors around.

 
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  1. So whether the college is majority female (you go girls!), or majority male (boo!), female students are being oppressed by competing for high status males.

    The New Math on Campus (NY Times)

    Jayne Dallas, a senior studying advertising who was seated across the table, grumbled that the population of male undergraduates was even smaller when you looked at it as a dating pool. “Out of that 40 percent, there are maybe 20 percent that we would consider, and out of those 20, 10 have girlfriends, so all the girls are fighting over that other 10 percent,” she said.

    Needless to say, this puts guys in a position to play the field, and tends to mean that even the ones willing to make a commitment come with storied romantic histories. Rachel Sasser, a senior history major at the table, said that before she and her boyfriend started dating, he had “hooked up with a least five of my friends in my sorority — that I know of.”

    … Women on gender-imbalanced campuses are paying a social price for success and, to a degree, are being victimized by men precisely because they have outperformed them, Professor Campbell said.

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    • Replies: @Nathan Wartooth
    "Jayne Dallas, a senior studying advertising who was seated across the table, grumbled that the population of male undergraduates was even smaller when you looked at it as a dating pool. “Out of that 40 percent, there are maybe 20 percent that we would consider, and out of those 20, 10 have girlfriends, so all the girls are fighting over that other 10 percent,” she said."

    This is what the "Red Pill" community calls the 80/20 rule. Women all want the guys in the top 20%, so those guys get to sleep around with tons of different women. The 80% guys all get rejected through their 20s, but then magically find a woman after he is in his 30s after he has a stable job and she has "hit the wall" in terms of looks and can no longer snag the 20% guys.

    But from the original article, that 30% of women in the engineering class is scary to me. There is no way a majority of those women are going to pursue much of a career in engineering after graduating. They will hate the work and mysteriously want to drop out of the workforce to have kids after she meets a guy making six figures at the engineering firm she goes to after she graduates.
    , @meep
    My experience was that many of the undateable men at such colleges were the sexual equivalent of undervalued assets. I attended one such school and my husband was brilliant, chubby, covered in acne and had poor social skills. Six years on, his social skills are better, he's discovered dermatology and good clothing, slimmed down and he has an excellent job. He might be out of my league now if he we single, but he remembers me as the only woman who ever deigned to notice him. And my husband wasn't the only such man on campus, nor the only one that made a play for my attention. The undateable men at such schools are, on the whole, good quality prospects.
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  2. Feminism is just a lesbian mating strategy designed to get rid of their competition from hetro guys.

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  3. “Purdue this year still only had 30% of its freshman engineering class entering as females.” English is obviously not her first language but surely the NYT could have helped out with some editing.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    They enter as females but do they change into something else while at Purdue?
    , @Big Bill

    “Purdue this year still only had 30% of its freshman engineering class entering as females.”
     
    My goodness! If only 30% enter as females, how many exit as females?
    , @ScarletNumber
    To be fair, the NYT isn't going to edit the comments.
  4. @F
    So whether the college is majority female (you go girls!), or majority male (boo!), female students are being oppressed by competing for high status males.

    The New Math on Campus (NY Times)


    Jayne Dallas, a senior studying advertising who was seated across the table, grumbled that the population of male undergraduates was even smaller when you looked at it as a dating pool. “Out of that 40 percent, there are maybe 20 percent that we would consider, and out of those 20, 10 have girlfriends, so all the girls are fighting over that other 10 percent,” she said.

    Needless to say, this puts guys in a position to play the field, and tends to mean that even the ones willing to make a commitment come with storied romantic histories. Rachel Sasser, a senior history major at the table, said that before she and her boyfriend started dating, he had “hooked up with a least five of my friends in my sorority — that I know of.”

    ... Women on gender-imbalanced campuses are paying a social price for success and, to a degree, are being victimized by men precisely because they have outperformed them, Professor Campbell said.

     

    “Jayne Dallas, a senior studying advertising who was seated across the table, grumbled that the population of male undergraduates was even smaller when you looked at it as a dating pool. “Out of that 40 percent, there are maybe 20 percent that we would consider, and out of those 20, 10 have girlfriends, so all the girls are fighting over that other 10 percent,” she said.”

    This is what the “Red Pill” community calls the 80/20 rule. Women all want the guys in the top 20%, so those guys get to sleep around with tons of different women. The 80% guys all get rejected through their 20s, but then magically find a woman after he is in his 30s after he has a stable job and she has “hit the wall” in terms of looks and can no longer snag the 20% guys.

    But from the original article, that 30% of women in the engineering class is scary to me. There is no way a majority of those women are going to pursue much of a career in engineering after graduating. They will hate the work and mysteriously want to drop out of the workforce to have kids after she meets a guy making six figures at the engineering firm she goes to after she graduates.

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  5. @F
    So whether the college is majority female (you go girls!), or majority male (boo!), female students are being oppressed by competing for high status males.

    The New Math on Campus (NY Times)


    Jayne Dallas, a senior studying advertising who was seated across the table, grumbled that the population of male undergraduates was even smaller when you looked at it as a dating pool. “Out of that 40 percent, there are maybe 20 percent that we would consider, and out of those 20, 10 have girlfriends, so all the girls are fighting over that other 10 percent,” she said.

    Needless to say, this puts guys in a position to play the field, and tends to mean that even the ones willing to make a commitment come with storied romantic histories. Rachel Sasser, a senior history major at the table, said that before she and her boyfriend started dating, he had “hooked up with a least five of my friends in my sorority — that I know of.”

    ... Women on gender-imbalanced campuses are paying a social price for success and, to a degree, are being victimized by men precisely because they have outperformed them, Professor Campbell said.

     

    My experience was that many of the undateable men at such colleges were the sexual equivalent of undervalued assets. I attended one such school and my husband was brilliant, chubby, covered in acne and had poor social skills. Six years on, his social skills are better, he’s discovered dermatology and good clothing, slimmed down and he has an excellent job. He might be out of my league now if he we single, but he remembers me as the only woman who ever deigned to notice him. And my husband wasn’t the only such man on campus, nor the only one that made a play for my attention. The undateable men at such schools are, on the whole, good quality prospects.

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  6. HA!

    Ex-Female Engineer here (whose still single and VERY UPSET and VERY WORRIED about that :( :( but with no clue of what to do about it)

    First off, there are no white men left in engineering. So of the 5 white guys who were in my engineering master’s degree program they all married like kindergarten teachers and what not.

    The one…and only one..guy who asked me out on a date ended up being a liberal with some other incompatibilities.

    Then at work I literally hit men on the head trying to get someone…anyone to ask me out. I still don’t understand what is wrong with me or them. It’s so crazy. I remember I just got so badly ignored by everyone.

    I don’t bat out of my league, so don’t attempt to blame that.

    Also the other female engineers who were white were also single. So that really scared me.

    My asian ex-gf got married to a white engineer from college…ahh great…Needless to say I don’t like asians…I remember she made a big deal about showing my photo to all the white engineers in a fraternity asking who would date me…but to this day I think it was cruel thing that she was doing…It wasn’t meant to be a nice thing. And was more meant to help herself then to help me. Very strange. I don’t like asians :)

    Just givin’ u guys the other perspective :) Life isn’t all roses and dandelions for all women.

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    • Replies: @Whiskey
    IMHO, looks. The hottest women I knew consistently complained only jerks asked them out ... intimidation factor. Below average women compete with prn.

    Men are vusual creatures.
    , @meep
    I married an Asian engineer and it's been a pretty good match on the whole (I'm white). My experience with engineers and most other men with demanding careers is that they don't want a wife with a competing career. They earn enough to cover their needs and many wants, so the wife doesn't need to make a lot of money, and a two career couple lifestyle isn't very pleasant. I briefly worked the kind of hours my husband does 70+/wk due to a short term assignment, and we were both miserable. I'm a secretary normally. What are you doing these days?

    Men often like to date Asian women because they act more stereotypically feminine, and doing so is an easy way to boost your value on the dating market. How are you on that score? How do you dress? Is your hair long? Are you mostly looking for dates at work? That's usually not a great place, as supply is constrained. Consider online dating, but not Tinder. Have you considered adopting a hobby that attracts right leaning men? Or any hobby that attracts men? I was into military history for a while and that's a field teeming with clever white boys.
    , @peterike
    Online dating is your friend.
    , @Big Bill
    Asif, is that "Ex-Female Engineer" or Female Ex-Engineer"?

    And, yes, your ex-friend was trying to shoot you down. But I doubt she was even consciously aware of it. It's a girl thing.
    , @Formerly CARealist
    Aslf, let me give you some encouragement. Me and lots of my friends were in your boat in the 90's. We all wound up marrying older, divorced guys and now we have splendid marriages. I know it doesn't sound ideal getting leftovers, but lots of those guys have been burned by marrying for looks and now want character and true companionship (and someone a bit younger). It works pretty darn well, actually. don't give up hope; marrying in the more mature years has plenty of advantages, even if you have to endure all the loneliness that precedes it.
    , @SFG
    Ask THEM out. You're dealing with shy guys. Suck it up and make the first move. If you do, they know you'll have a much harder time calling sexual harassment on them, and will be willing. And most of them are too shy to make the first move.

    Yeah, reversing the script can make you look 'easy', but if you're dealing with nerds it will probably be OK--they're not the sort to go sleeping around anyway. And, really--he's a liberal? You sound like these women on dating sites who refuse to go out with guys who don't believe in gay marriage, only in reverse. You should be worried if he's violent, manipulative, or unfaithful. But a liberal? With all the power we actually have in our political system (ie none), their views on immigration, healthcare, or foreign policy are about as important as if they like strawberries. You're more concerned with his character, particularly if you want to raise a family, and I've noticed there's actually relatively little connection between a person's political views and their virtues--politics has to do with upbringing and social position more often than not. There is a tendency for people with a high openness to experience to lean to the left (and the obverse), but you're more concerned with agreeableness, conscientiousness, and lack of neuroticism.

    Yeah, I know, you want that masculine guy who'll sweep you away. I want Scarlett Johanssen to sleep with me. Real people have to make compromises.
    , @E. Rekshun
    First off, there are no white men left in engineering.

    The number of White men in Engineering probably varies greatly depending on the specialty. When I did my MBA at the University of FL in the late '90s, I took six graduate-level Computer Science courses as my area of concentration. I was the only White male in every course and kind of an exotic attraction. One attractive Indian female was incredulous that any Americans were taking grad-level Computer Science courses and asked me, "so, where are you from? England?" All the students were either Indian or Chinese, except for one smart Jamaican female.
    , @Bill
    First off, there are no white men left in engineering.

    Here is the commencement video from Rose Hulman, a top 5 engineering school. It's long, but I think the walk starts at about 1:45:00. Lotsa lotsa white males, most of whom are not that geeky. If you want a normal, white engineer, then you have to look where the normal, white engineers are. Midwestern engineering schools. No coasts. No public ivies.

    Most of the guys in the video look like they would not only be able to fix your broken dishwasher but that they would enjoy doing it.
  7. The engineering class has become another battleground in the culture and gender wars

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  8. @Robbie
    HA!

    Ex-Female Engineer here (whose still single and VERY UPSET and VERY WORRIED about that :( :( but with no clue of what to do about it)

    First off, there are no white men left in engineering. So of the 5 white guys who were in my engineering master's degree program they all married like kindergarten teachers and what not.

    The one...and only one..guy who asked me out on a date ended up being a liberal with some other incompatibilities.

    Then at work I literally hit men on the head trying to get someone...anyone to ask me out. I still don't understand what is wrong with me or them. It's so crazy. I remember I just got so badly ignored by everyone.

    I don't bat out of my league, so don't attempt to blame that.

    Also the other female engineers who were white were also single. So that really scared me.

    My asian ex-gf got married to a white engineer from college...ahh great...Needless to say I don't like asians...I remember she made a big deal about showing my photo to all the white engineers in a fraternity asking who would date me...but to this day I think it was cruel thing that she was doing...It wasn't meant to be a nice thing. And was more meant to help herself then to help me. Very strange. I don't like asians :)

    Just givin' u guys the other perspective :) Life isn't all roses and dandelions for all women.

    IMHO, looks. The hottest women I knew consistently complained only jerks asked them out … intimidation factor. Below average women compete with prn.

    Men are vusual creatures.

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    • Replies: @meep
    Also, age. At nineteen, most women are a little beautiful, if they keep themselves reasonably clean and aren't obese. I'm 26 and have definitely dipped from pretty to cute in the last year or so. Luckily, I'm married to a man I met in my late teens, but I'm still several years below the age your modern urban single woman starts panicking. I can't imagine the horrors of being on the market now, particularly if I didn't understand the underlying dynamics or believed anything Sex and the City said.
    , @dearieme
    "The hottest women I knew consistently complained only jerks asked them out … ": I know one very pretty girl who thought I was the first decent male to ask her out. Reader, I married her.
    , @dumpstersquirrel
    "IMHO, looks. The hottest women I knew consistently complained only jerks asked them out … intimidation factor. Below average women compete with prn."

    Yep. Given a choice between a perfect cyber 10 within my cozy masturbatorium versus a frumpy 4-minus in meatspace, I'll take that cyber 10 every time. And I'll bet most men would, too.

    So that means people will be more attractive in the future because the fugs aren't reproducing thanks to pr9n. God bless pr9n? Amen?
    , @CCR
    I think it is allowed to spell out porn on this website, Whiskey.
  9. @Robbie
    HA!

    Ex-Female Engineer here (whose still single and VERY UPSET and VERY WORRIED about that :( :( but with no clue of what to do about it)

    First off, there are no white men left in engineering. So of the 5 white guys who were in my engineering master's degree program they all married like kindergarten teachers and what not.

    The one...and only one..guy who asked me out on a date ended up being a liberal with some other incompatibilities.

    Then at work I literally hit men on the head trying to get someone...anyone to ask me out. I still don't understand what is wrong with me or them. It's so crazy. I remember I just got so badly ignored by everyone.

    I don't bat out of my league, so don't attempt to blame that.

    Also the other female engineers who were white were also single. So that really scared me.

    My asian ex-gf got married to a white engineer from college...ahh great...Needless to say I don't like asians...I remember she made a big deal about showing my photo to all the white engineers in a fraternity asking who would date me...but to this day I think it was cruel thing that she was doing...It wasn't meant to be a nice thing. And was more meant to help herself then to help me. Very strange. I don't like asians :)

    Just givin' u guys the other perspective :) Life isn't all roses and dandelions for all women.

    I married an Asian engineer and it’s been a pretty good match on the whole (I’m white). My experience with engineers and most other men with demanding careers is that they don’t want a wife with a competing career. They earn enough to cover their needs and many wants, so the wife doesn’t need to make a lot of money, and a two career couple lifestyle isn’t very pleasant. I briefly worked the kind of hours my husband does 70+/wk due to a short term assignment, and we were both miserable. I’m a secretary normally. What are you doing these days?

    Men often like to date Asian women because they act more stereotypically feminine, and doing so is an easy way to boost your value on the dating market. How are you on that score? How do you dress? Is your hair long? Are you mostly looking for dates at work? That’s usually not a great place, as supply is constrained. Consider online dating, but not Tinder. Have you considered adopting a hobby that attracts right leaning men? Or any hobby that attracts men? I was into military history for a while and that’s a field teeming with clever white boys.

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    • Replies: @cipher
    "...mostly looking for dates at work?"

    One assumes engineers are capable of reading their firm's sexual harrasment policies and comprehending the fate of he who runs afoul of them.
  10. @Robbie
    HA!

    Ex-Female Engineer here (whose still single and VERY UPSET and VERY WORRIED about that :( :( but with no clue of what to do about it)

    First off, there are no white men left in engineering. So of the 5 white guys who were in my engineering master's degree program they all married like kindergarten teachers and what not.

    The one...and only one..guy who asked me out on a date ended up being a liberal with some other incompatibilities.

    Then at work I literally hit men on the head trying to get someone...anyone to ask me out. I still don't understand what is wrong with me or them. It's so crazy. I remember I just got so badly ignored by everyone.

    I don't bat out of my league, so don't attempt to blame that.

    Also the other female engineers who were white were also single. So that really scared me.

    My asian ex-gf got married to a white engineer from college...ahh great...Needless to say I don't like asians...I remember she made a big deal about showing my photo to all the white engineers in a fraternity asking who would date me...but to this day I think it was cruel thing that she was doing...It wasn't meant to be a nice thing. And was more meant to help herself then to help me. Very strange. I don't like asians :)

    Just givin' u guys the other perspective :) Life isn't all roses and dandelions for all women.

    Online dating is your friend.

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  11. @Whiskey
    IMHO, looks. The hottest women I knew consistently complained only jerks asked them out ... intimidation factor. Below average women compete with prn.

    Men are vusual creatures.

    Also, age. At nineteen, most women are a little beautiful, if they keep themselves reasonably clean and aren’t obese. I’m 26 and have definitely dipped from pretty to cute in the last year or so. Luckily, I’m married to a man I met in my late teens, but I’m still several years below the age your modern urban single woman starts panicking. I can’t imagine the horrors of being on the market now, particularly if I didn’t understand the underlying dynamics or believed anything Sex and the City said.

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  12. “The odds are great when not many females are in your major, when you are smart and pick the non-traditional major”

    Of course she may have left out a key detail, like, if she dated some future NFLers and NCAAers then perhaps she was on the FB cheerleading squad. Footballers tend to go for the best looking girls and, why shouldn’t they?

    Would be interesting to see her college yrbook picture and if she was on the cheerleading squad.

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    @dearieme
    "Purdue this year still only had 30% of its freshman engineering class entering as females." English is obviously not her first language but surely the NYT could have helped out with some editing.

    They enter as females but do they change into something else while at Purdue?

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    • Replies: @David R. Merridale
    They enter as females but do they change into something else while at Purdue?

    Also, consider the female engineers who are entering as males but will soon transition. Please don't marginalize them!

    :-)

  14. My co-worker’s daughter is slender with big boobs and is an extrovert. She is also a top student at a heavily-male engineering school. When she broke up with her last boyfriend she got asked out by six dudes before the day was even over. It will be interesting to watch how long she stays in the workforce before deciding there’s no point.

    Do men in female-oriented professions clean up like this or does it just work in the other direction? My buddy that went to physical therapy school was more or less the only eligible heterosexual guy in his class when he started but he immediately started dating a physicist and eventually married her. It seems like a waste but maybe women in womanly fields aren’t the kind some men want.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "Do men in female-oriented professions clean up like this"

    It's kind of an all or nothing thing.

    Handsome straight playwrights like Arthur Miller, Stoppard, or Shanley do very well for themselves.

    , @ScarletNumber
    Do men in female-oriented professions clean up like this or does it just work in the other direction?

    It just works in the other direction.

    Remember, no one respects a man who does woman's work; not even women.

    Especially, not women.
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    OT: isteve readers will enjoy this.

    http://gawker.com/on-the-glorification-of-the-side-chick-1642317478/all

    I’m a blackgirl, a blackgirl connoisseur of ratchetness, a blackgirl fascinated by media representations of other blackgirls, a blackgirl who cares deeply about the connection between ratchetness, representation, and lived experience.

    Robin M. Boylorn is Assistant Professor of Interpersonal and Intercultural Communication at the University of Alabama. She is the author of Sweetwater: Black Women and Narratives of Resilience and co-editor of Critical Autoethnography: Intersecting Cultural Identities in Everyday Life. She is also a member and contributing writer of the Crunk Feminist Collective.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    What is "rachetness?" In college, my roommates and I decided to make up slang. Our best creation was "ratch" as in, "Stop ratching at me."
    , @dumpstersquirrel
    "I’m a blackgirl, a blackgirl connoisseur of ratchetness, a blackgirl fascinated by media representations of other blackgirls, a blackgirl who cares deeply about the connection between ratchetness, representation, and lived experience."

    LOL. Run, hamster, run!
  16. Always remember, ladies, “A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.” Or, as the butch gals at the Women’s Transit Authority in Madison used to put it, “A woman without a man is a PD [Potential Dyke]” … although not within earshot of the little freshmen activist girls.

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  17. @Robbie
    HA!

    Ex-Female Engineer here (whose still single and VERY UPSET and VERY WORRIED about that :( :( but with no clue of what to do about it)

    First off, there are no white men left in engineering. So of the 5 white guys who were in my engineering master's degree program they all married like kindergarten teachers and what not.

    The one...and only one..guy who asked me out on a date ended up being a liberal with some other incompatibilities.

    Then at work I literally hit men on the head trying to get someone...anyone to ask me out. I still don't understand what is wrong with me or them. It's so crazy. I remember I just got so badly ignored by everyone.

    I don't bat out of my league, so don't attempt to blame that.

    Also the other female engineers who were white were also single. So that really scared me.

    My asian ex-gf got married to a white engineer from college...ahh great...Needless to say I don't like asians...I remember she made a big deal about showing my photo to all the white engineers in a fraternity asking who would date me...but to this day I think it was cruel thing that she was doing...It wasn't meant to be a nice thing. And was more meant to help herself then to help me. Very strange. I don't like asians :)

    Just givin' u guys the other perspective :) Life isn't all roses and dandelions for all women.

    Asif, is that “Ex-Female Engineer” or Female Ex-Engineer”?

    And, yes, your ex-friend was trying to shoot you down. But I doubt she was even consciously aware of it. It’s a girl thing.

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  18. @dearieme
    "Purdue this year still only had 30% of its freshman engineering class entering as females." English is obviously not her first language but surely the NYT could have helped out with some editing.

    “Purdue this year still only had 30% of its freshman engineering class entering as females.”

    My goodness! If only 30% enter as females, how many exit as females?

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  19. @meep
    I married an Asian engineer and it's been a pretty good match on the whole (I'm white). My experience with engineers and most other men with demanding careers is that they don't want a wife with a competing career. They earn enough to cover their needs and many wants, so the wife doesn't need to make a lot of money, and a two career couple lifestyle isn't very pleasant. I briefly worked the kind of hours my husband does 70+/wk due to a short term assignment, and we were both miserable. I'm a secretary normally. What are you doing these days?

    Men often like to date Asian women because they act more stereotypically feminine, and doing so is an easy way to boost your value on the dating market. How are you on that score? How do you dress? Is your hair long? Are you mostly looking for dates at work? That's usually not a great place, as supply is constrained. Consider online dating, but not Tinder. Have you considered adopting a hobby that attracts right leaning men? Or any hobby that attracts men? I was into military history for a while and that's a field teeming with clever white boys.

    “…mostly looking for dates at work?”

    One assumes engineers are capable of reading their firm’s sexual harrasment policies and comprehending the fate of he who runs afoul of them.

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    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    "One assumes engineers are capable of reading their firm’s sexual harrasment policies and comprehending the fate of he who runs afoul of them."

    One would think that sexual harassment policies were put in place primarily to help women separate the alpha males from the betas. Alphas aren't going to let something like a firm's sexual harassment policy keep them from hitting on women. Beta males are more likely to be intimidated by such rules. And the beta male who dares make a poor, awkward attempt at hitting on a girl is precisely who these laws were meant to punish.
  20. @Robbie
    HA!

    Ex-Female Engineer here (whose still single and VERY UPSET and VERY WORRIED about that :( :( but with no clue of what to do about it)

    First off, there are no white men left in engineering. So of the 5 white guys who were in my engineering master's degree program they all married like kindergarten teachers and what not.

    The one...and only one..guy who asked me out on a date ended up being a liberal with some other incompatibilities.

    Then at work I literally hit men on the head trying to get someone...anyone to ask me out. I still don't understand what is wrong with me or them. It's so crazy. I remember I just got so badly ignored by everyone.

    I don't bat out of my league, so don't attempt to blame that.

    Also the other female engineers who were white were also single. So that really scared me.

    My asian ex-gf got married to a white engineer from college...ahh great...Needless to say I don't like asians...I remember she made a big deal about showing my photo to all the white engineers in a fraternity asking who would date me...but to this day I think it was cruel thing that she was doing...It wasn't meant to be a nice thing. And was more meant to help herself then to help me. Very strange. I don't like asians :)

    Just givin' u guys the other perspective :) Life isn't all roses and dandelions for all women.

    Aslf, let me give you some encouragement. Me and lots of my friends were in your boat in the 90′s. We all wound up marrying older, divorced guys and now we have splendid marriages. I know it doesn’t sound ideal getting leftovers, but lots of those guys have been burned by marrying for looks and now want character and true companionship (and someone a bit younger). It works pretty darn well, actually. don’t give up hope; marrying in the more mature years has plenty of advantages, even if you have to endure all the loneliness that precedes it.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    What about late 30's to early 40's never-married nerdy guys? At least we're not leftovers.
  21. When I was at Purdue 50 years ago, a coed told me she had dated 100 different guys in her freshman year. She wasn’t that good looking either. The male-female ratio was that steep.

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    • Replies: @D. K.
    The numbers had changed dramatically, by the time that I arrived in West Lafayette, in August 1976.

    Seventy years ago, during the last year of World War II, Purdue's fall enrollment was down to 3762! Enrollment surged, afterwards, due to the returning vets, with a peak approaching 15,000, in 1948, before dipping back down, to a little under 10,000, during the Korean War years. After that, it started climbing dramatically, once again.

    Fifty years ago, it was up to 18,710, and the next year it broke 20,000. When I arrived, in 1976, it broke 30,000 for the first time ever. Twenty-five years ago, it broke 35,000 for the first time. In 2008, it pushed past 40,000 for the first (and, to date, only) time-- well over ten times what it was, back on V.E. Day!

    More importantly, as far as dating went and goes, as the natural surge of Baby Boomers kept Purdue's enrollment numbers burgeoning, from the mid-1960s onward, the proportion of female students surged, too. By the time I was there, HSSE (the School of Humanities, Social Sciences, and Education), in which I enrolled as a double-major, in English and General History, had become the single largest school within the university. Some of its departments, like Psychology (which I later went into), became overwhelmingly female, at the undergraduate level. So, the long dating odds faced by older generations of Purdue men, when the university was dominated by engineering, and engineering was overwhelmingly dominated by men, became a thing of the past.

  22. My sister and I are engineers and both married fellow engineers we met at work. Most of my female engineer colleagues seemed to end up married to other engineers. Granted we went to school in the mid 80/early 90s but I can’t imagine it’s that different these days.

    I find it hard to believe that the “mj” you quoted had such great success at Purdue because she was a female engineer. Purdue doesn’t tilt that heavily male like a pure technical school such as Rensselaer Polytechnic does. Division I football players have their pick of the campus, no way do they seek out female engineering majors (not really known for their beauty) to date. MJ must have been very good looking.

    As for landing a guy Aslf, try taking up some male-dominated hobbies. I learned golf. My sister took up mountain biking, rock climbing, and sail boarding.

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  23. Women complaining about lack of prospects is always hilarious. Your standards are too high honey, your value is not there to attract what you are looking for. You say you are not batting out of your league, yet you have no success, showing you have absolutely no idea what your league is.

    Are you over 25? Guess what, your value is declining asa mans value is rising.

    Perhaps you remember being 17 or 21, when females values are much higher than mens values. Times are changing fo you dear, sorry.

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    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Women complaining about lack of prospects is always hilarious.

    I knew a handsome, intelligent, and pleasant if reserved young woman who was ignored by her male peers. At the age of 22, she took up lesbianism for roughly the same reason Susan Sontag did: she was getting better offers from women than from men (or rather, she was getting offers). She said she hadn't given up on men. (She later did). A dozen years earlier, I could have introduced you to a young man I knew facing roughly the same circumstances (he elected to stay away from the gay subculture).

    That aside, the trouble you run into with manosphere writers is that they take a particular vector that has a certain influence on the behavior of youth and turn it into a Theory of Everything in the realm of social relations. The median age at first marriage for women only shuffled into unprecedented territory after 1990 and it's still shy of 27. The schema of a woman settling for a good earner when she realizes she's no longer marketable at 30 does not describe most women's lives, as they are married earlier and as a large share of the male population (45% at least) are indifferent earners all their lives (and, while we are at it, fewer than 15% or so will ever earn as well as engineers).

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    My girlfriend is a physics major and a hard ten. It’s great being with her but her SMV always makes me feel like I’ve got a target on my.back. Hot Scientist Girlfriend, the struggle is real.

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  25. Change your world view, some female sees those in the Exec MBA class as “Married But Available”.

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  26. AsIf – Life isnt roses and dandelions for high achieving women. Or for socially awkward high achieving men like myself. The advice given above makes sense. Be stereotypically feminine – self effacing, quiet, smile a lot, be kind, bring people cookies etc etc.

    I work with a lot of driven, capable women, several of them from India like myself, and I am uniformly turned off by all of them because I begin to view them as competitors to be subjugated, rather than potential mates I could love. I can tell that a lot of them want to date me, from their continuous hint-dropping and asking me out to “friendly” dinners. I’m no Adonis, so it’s probably because the pool of single Indian men isn’t very large where I work. But I never respond to them because I just can’t see myself spending the next few decades of my life with a hard-charging ball-busting career gal.

    On the other hand, outside of work, I am a nobody. I cannot easily pick up women on the streets, in the bars, in the clubs – I’m neither gorgeous nor a smooth talker. I was incapable of this even in India, where I had no racial disadvantages.

    Fortunately, I found me a highly feminine East Asian girl who doesn’t recoil in horror at the thought of being a stay at home mom.

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  27. “……………such as the Harvard Business School, is a living hell for young women: the insensitivity, the repulsive frat house culture, the constantly being asked out on dates by future captains of industry………..”

    Given that the US is de-industrializing (thanks to the influence of places like HBS), and that so many Harvard Grads go to work for Wall Street, isn’t the term “Captains of Industry” a bit old fashioned? Perhaps a new term is called for:

    Captains of Usury.

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    • Replies: @Joe Sweet
    "Perhaps a new term is called for:

    Captains of Usury."

    That's a good one. How about "Captains of Douchebaggery"?
  28. “AsIf says

    Ex-Female Engineer here….”

    Do you mean a female ex-engineer? Or an engineer who is an ex-female? Given recent thread-topics, it’s not immediately obvious.

    “Then at work I literally hit men on the head trying to get someone…anyone to ask me out. I still don’t understand what is wrong with me or them. It’s so crazy. I remember I just got so badly ignored by everyone.”

    Gosh, maybe they were afraid of getting grievanced and fired for sexual harrassment. Ever think about that? Then there is this old-fashioned concept among men – some men anyway – which crudely goes by the name of “Don’t s**t where you eat”, i.e., it’s not a good idea to get romantically involved with someone you have to work with.

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  29. After reading the first sentence of the last paragraph I desperately want to believe Frances Frei is married to a transsexual . Probably too much to hope for.

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  30. @Whiskey
    IMHO, looks. The hottest women I knew consistently complained only jerks asked them out ... intimidation factor. Below average women compete with prn.

    Men are vusual creatures.

    “The hottest women I knew consistently complained only jerks asked them out … “: I know one very pretty girl who thought I was the first decent male to ask her out. Reader, I married her.

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  31. I was at Purdue from August 1976 through August 1982, both studying (B.A. and M.S.) and working as a university staffer, and later won a full fellowship to the M.S.I.A. program, in the Krannert business school, but dropped out during orientation, for strictly personal reasons, later earning an M.B.A. elsewhere.

    For those who are unaware, Purdue is Indiana’s land-grant university specializing in agriculture, engineering, and other technical areas, whereas Indiana University is the liberal arts and professional school. I was in the liberal arts and social sciences at Purdue, however, and only went there because I decided, in the summer of ’76, to transfer from the small Catholic college that I had attended for my first two years, and Purdue was simply the only school that I could plausibly apply to, at that late date, and still enter that August. The very thought of going there, previous to my felt need to escape the good sisters, was not merely alien to me; it was an anathema!

    Anyway, there were no shortages of either liberal-arts types or co-eds– and, on the whole, the co-eds at Purdue were notably better looking than those at my original college! The essential bifurcation at Purdue, as I very quickly realized, was not between engineers and English majors, nor between rural and urban kids, nor between native Hoosiers, paying in-state tuition, and out-of-staters, paying a premium. No, the single factor that determined almost everyone’s respective status was Greek (as in fraternities and sororities) versus non-Greek (whether a “dormie” or a “GDI”). When it came to dating, and socializing in general, that was the bridge-too-far for most of us. Unfortunately, for those of us on my side of that divide, the most desirable co-eds were overwhelmingly in sororities, and they overwhelmingly dated only fraternity members.

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  32. @Anonymous
    OT: isteve readers will enjoy this.

    http://gawker.com/on-the-glorification-of-the-side-chick-1642317478/all

    I'm a blackgirl, a blackgirl connoisseur of ratchetness, a blackgirl fascinated by media representations of other blackgirls, a blackgirl who cares deeply about the connection between ratchetness, representation, and lived experience.
     

    Robin M. Boylorn is Assistant Professor of Interpersonal and Intercultural Communication at the University of Alabama. She is the author of Sweetwater: Black Women and Narratives of Resilience and co-editor of Critical Autoethnography: Intersecting Cultural Identities in Everyday Life. She is also a member and contributing writer of the Crunk Feminist Collective.
     

    What is “rachetness?” In college, my roommates and I decided to make up slang. Our best creation was “ratch” as in, “Stop ratching at me.”

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    • Replies: @a Newsreader
    Maybe "rachetness" could be used to make the SAT less biased?
    , @Art Deco
    I seem to recall that Rachel Jeantel was described as the sort of person ordinary blacks refer to dismissively as 'ratchet'. I'd never heard the term before.
    , @Anonymous
    Steve, urban dictionary explains ratchet. The third definition includes the etymology.
    , @Joe Sweet
    From the Urban Dictionary:


    Ratchet

    A diva, mostly from urban cities and ghettos, that has reason to believe she is every mans eye candy. Unfortunately, she's wrong.

    Typical signs to beware of include, but are not limited to: 
    -owning a Blackberry 
    -BLARES anything by Drake, 2Chainz, Nicki Minaj, Gucci Mane, Waka Flocka, Lil Wayne, T-Pain, Cali Swag District, or any other garbage entertainment rapper 
    -rowdily quotes "lyrics" from aforementioned artists 
    -has a weave reminiscent of a bird's nest after a tempest hit the tree it was in, and is dyed at least thrice 
    -wears torn leggings/stalkings (mostly of the fishnet variety), unpolished 8" heels (or higher, depending on how God-awful they look), fitted jean jackets (to accent the blubber 'round their arms and stomach), and 4 layers of caked on make-up to go clubbing 
    -repeatedly use ludicrous terms such as "YOLO", "swag", "boost", "beaking", "doe", "really", "naw", "actually", "twerk", "coaster", "dagga", etc., to make a valid statement when they speak 
    -have side bangs, despite having incredibly small-ass foreheads to support them 
    -are commonly overweight 
    and are mind-numbingly stupid; a safe assumption to make would be saying they're uneducated (as if they could pass the 4th grade)

    If spotted, please report to the authorities, notifying them that they are possible smack addicts, or potential, degenerate Chaka Khan look-alikes.

    Imagine a woman that wears skinny clothes, bad looking heels & fishnet stalkings, blasts Drake or Waka off her phone, would go out of her way as to cop CD's from these artists, has a bad hairdo, looks immensely disgusting as a human being, and would rather spend her time maintaining her looks, communicating among her folk, and being a jobless, gold-digging bum for the rest of her days, not even bothering to get herself a good shower, a paying career, and a damned effort to earn a diploma.

    That, my comrades, is a prime notoriety of a ratchet.

    God help us all.

    by stupidniggerskerritpussclot81 August 09, 2012

  33. @Jokah Macpherson
    My co-worker's daughter is slender with big boobs and is an extrovert. She is also a top student at a heavily-male engineering school. When she broke up with her last boyfriend she got asked out by six dudes before the day was even over. It will be interesting to watch how long she stays in the workforce before deciding there's no point.

    Do men in female-oriented professions clean up like this or does it just work in the other direction? My buddy that went to physical therapy school was more or less the only eligible heterosexual guy in his class when he started but he immediately started dating a physicist and eventually married her. It seems like a waste but maybe women in womanly fields aren't the kind some men want.

    “Do men in female-oriented professions clean up like this”

    It’s kind of an all or nothing thing.

    Handsome straight playwrights like Arthur Miller, Stoppard, or Shanley do very well for themselves.

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  34. @Robbie
    HA!

    Ex-Female Engineer here (whose still single and VERY UPSET and VERY WORRIED about that :( :( but with no clue of what to do about it)

    First off, there are no white men left in engineering. So of the 5 white guys who were in my engineering master's degree program they all married like kindergarten teachers and what not.

    The one...and only one..guy who asked me out on a date ended up being a liberal with some other incompatibilities.

    Then at work I literally hit men on the head trying to get someone...anyone to ask me out. I still don't understand what is wrong with me or them. It's so crazy. I remember I just got so badly ignored by everyone.

    I don't bat out of my league, so don't attempt to blame that.

    Also the other female engineers who were white were also single. So that really scared me.

    My asian ex-gf got married to a white engineer from college...ahh great...Needless to say I don't like asians...I remember she made a big deal about showing my photo to all the white engineers in a fraternity asking who would date me...but to this day I think it was cruel thing that she was doing...It wasn't meant to be a nice thing. And was more meant to help herself then to help me. Very strange. I don't like asians :)

    Just givin' u guys the other perspective :) Life isn't all roses and dandelions for all women.

    Ask THEM out. You’re dealing with shy guys. Suck it up and make the first move. If you do, they know you’ll have a much harder time calling sexual harassment on them, and will be willing. And most of them are too shy to make the first move.

    Yeah, reversing the script can make you look ‘easy’, but if you’re dealing with nerds it will probably be OK–they’re not the sort to go sleeping around anyway. And, really–he’s a liberal? You sound like these women on dating sites who refuse to go out with guys who don’t believe in gay marriage, only in reverse. You should be worried if he’s violent, manipulative, or unfaithful. But a liberal? With all the power we actually have in our political system (ie none), their views on immigration, healthcare, or foreign policy are about as important as if they like strawberries. You’re more concerned with his character, particularly if you want to raise a family, and I’ve noticed there’s actually relatively little connection between a person’s political views and their virtues–politics has to do with upbringing and social position more often than not. There is a tendency for people with a high openness to experience to lean to the left (and the obverse), but you’re more concerned with agreeableness, conscientiousness, and lack of neuroticism.

    Yeah, I know, you want that masculine guy who’ll sweep you away. I want Scarlett Johanssen to sleep with me. Real people have to make compromises.

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    How did people in the 1800s get married and have 8 children each when colleges literally didn’t even allow women to even attend? The original purpose of college wasn’t to troll for sex. It’s the modern Western mating system causing a birthrate crash and it’s consequent supplanting with more traditional cultures.

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  36. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Excerpts:


    Girls feel pressured to do more than they’re comfortable with, to lock it down

    On college campuses where there are far more women than men, men have all the power to control the intensity of sexual and romantic relationships

    When men have the social power, they create a man’s ideal of relationships … more partners, more sex.

    Women on gender-imbalanced campuses … are being victimized by men

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  37. @Steve Sailer
    What is "rachetness?" In college, my roommates and I decided to make up slang. Our best creation was "ratch" as in, "Stop ratching at me."

    Maybe “rachetness” could be used to make the SAT less biased?

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  38. @dearieme
    "Purdue this year still only had 30% of its freshman engineering class entering as females." English is obviously not her first language but surely the NYT could have helped out with some editing.

    To be fair, the NYT isn’t going to edit the comments.

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  39. @Jokah Macpherson
    My co-worker's daughter is slender with big boobs and is an extrovert. She is also a top student at a heavily-male engineering school. When she broke up with her last boyfriend she got asked out by six dudes before the day was even over. It will be interesting to watch how long she stays in the workforce before deciding there's no point.

    Do men in female-oriented professions clean up like this or does it just work in the other direction? My buddy that went to physical therapy school was more or less the only eligible heterosexual guy in his class when he started but he immediately started dating a physicist and eventually married her. It seems like a waste but maybe women in womanly fields aren't the kind some men want.

    Do men in female-oriented professions clean up like this or does it just work in the other direction?

    It just works in the other direction.

    Remember, no one respects a man who does woman’s work; not even women.

    Especially, not women.

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  40. @Foreign Expert
    When I was at Purdue 50 years ago, a coed told me she had dated 100 different guys in her freshman year. She wasn't that good looking either. The male-female ratio was that steep.

    The numbers had changed dramatically, by the time that I arrived in West Lafayette, in August 1976.

    Seventy years ago, during the last year of World War II, Purdue’s fall enrollment was down to 3762! Enrollment surged, afterwards, due to the returning vets, with a peak approaching 15,000, in 1948, before dipping back down, to a little under 10,000, during the Korean War years. After that, it started climbing dramatically, once again.

    Fifty years ago, it was up to 18,710, and the next year it broke 20,000. When I arrived, in 1976, it broke 30,000 for the first time ever. Twenty-five years ago, it broke 35,000 for the first time. In 2008, it pushed past 40,000 for the first (and, to date, only) time– well over ten times what it was, back on V.E. Day!

    More importantly, as far as dating went and goes, as the natural surge of Baby Boomers kept Purdue’s enrollment numbers burgeoning, from the mid-1960s onward, the proportion of female students surged, too. By the time I was there, HSSE (the School of Humanities, Social Sciences, and Education), in which I enrolled as a double-major, in English and General History, had become the single largest school within the university. Some of its departments, like Psychology (which I later went into), became overwhelmingly female, at the undergraduate level. So, the long dating odds faced by older generations of Purdue men, when the university was dominated by engineering, and engineering was overwhelmingly dominated by men, became a thing of the past.

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  41. @Steve Sailer
    What is "rachetness?" In college, my roommates and I decided to make up slang. Our best creation was "ratch" as in, "Stop ratching at me."

    I seem to recall that Rachel Jeantel was described as the sort of person ordinary blacks refer to dismissively as ‘ratchet’. I’d never heard the term before.

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  42. @Hipster
    Women complaining about lack of prospects is always hilarious. Your standards are too high honey, your value is not there to attract what you are looking for. You say you are not batting out of your league, yet you have no success, showing you have absolutely no idea what your league is.

    Are you over 25? Guess what, your value is declining asa mans value is rising.

    Perhaps you remember being 17 or 21, when females values are much higher than mens values. Times are changing fo you dear, sorry.

    Women complaining about lack of prospects is always hilarious.

    I knew a handsome, intelligent, and pleasant if reserved young woman who was ignored by her male peers. At the age of 22, she took up lesbianism for roughly the same reason Susan Sontag did: she was getting better offers from women than from men (or rather, she was getting offers). She said she hadn’t given up on men. (She later did). A dozen years earlier, I could have introduced you to a young man I knew facing roughly the same circumstances (he elected to stay away from the gay subculture).

    That aside, the trouble you run into with manosphere writers is that they take a particular vector that has a certain influence on the behavior of youth and turn it into a Theory of Everything in the realm of social relations. The median age at first marriage for women only shuffled into unprecedented territory after 1990 and it’s still shy of 27. The schema of a woman settling for a good earner when she realizes she’s no longer marketable at 30 does not describe most women’s lives, as they are married earlier and as a large share of the male population (45% at least) are indifferent earners all their lives (and, while we are at it, fewer than 15% or so will ever earn as well as engineers).

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  43. Asif-

    Everyone else on the thread has given very good advice. My wife is a lawyer, and I am a lawyer too. We met at work. (She now stays home with the boys and probably won’t return to work.) Frankly, my wife isn’t the most beautiful woman in the world, at least physically. She’s also nine years older than me. But I love her. Here’s why.

    First, my wife is very feminine. I’m 43 and was raised in a time when girls and boys were supposed to be a little androgynous. My wife didn’t behave that way, she was a “girly girl.” That was interesting and refreshing. As a nerdy guy with no female siblings, I’d never met any “girly girls” before. I liked that about her. She wore skirts exclusively (we’ve been marred for 12 years and I’ve only seen her in a pair of jeans once – seriously) and was into shopping and fashion. I can’t say that I share those interests, but it was kind of neat to meet someone who did.

    Second, my wife said something that I’d never heard from any of the other girls that I’d dated – she said that she wanted to have children. She said this shortly after I met her, even before we started dating. Like most guys, I was cool with the idea of having children, someday. But as a guy, I didn’t exactly yearn to have kids. The responsibility seemed daunting. Kids seemed like a good thing. My dad was happy that he’d had them. I figured that I’d have kids eventually – most people have them eventually – but kids were just an abstract notion that seemed very far off into the future. When my wife said that she wanted to get married and have children, I was intrigued. She wasn’t neurotic about it or anything, she just made it clear that it was one of her top priorities. A lot of women are afraid to say that they want to have kids, because they worry that it will scare guys away, but I was intrigued when my wife said that she wanted to have children.

    Third, my wife is traditionally feminine in many other ways. She was very, very, very close to her family. My parents were divorced and I grew up without an extended family around, and it was wonderful to meet someone who regarded family as a top priority. This, along with wanting to have kids, was one of the things that most attracted me to my wife. She had a very female outlook on the world and I was intrigued by that.

    Also, my wife was very traditional about sex. She was a virgin when I met her. I obviously cannot go into detail here, but it was a big deal to her, not a casual thing. This was not a huge deal to me, to be honest, because I dated a lot before meeting my wife and met several women with extensive sexual histories whom I would have married. I actually dated two girls who appeared in Playboy’s “Girls of the Big Ten” issue. The manosphere guys make a huge deal out of the number of guys a woman has slept with, but I really don’t think it is a big deal. IMO it is possible for a woman to sleep with guys while she is dating and remain wholesome. I think that the fixation on the number of guys that a woman has slept with is a product of male insecurity. That sounds like a cliche but it’s what I believe. No one is attracted to a tattooed stripper but if a woman has had a few boyfriends it’s not a huge deal. But I liked the fact that my wife was very traditional about sex, it was not a huge deal to me, but it was a huge deal to her, and I thought that was nice.

    Next, my wife is devoutly religious. I liked that, too. I was pretty agonistic, and she’s still more faithful than I am, although some of her belief has rubbed off on me, but I appreciated the fact that she went to church and was devout. In fact, I converted to Catholicism before I marred her. That wasn’t a big deal because I was a Lutheran and had a lot of respect for Catholics already. But it was great to meet someone who was devoutly religious.

    Also, my wife had standards. She wanted to do things in the traditional way and would not deviate from that path. That was nice. Granted, I had standards, too. For example, although I was not devoutly religious, I was not willing to live with someone before marriage. The idea of unmarried cohabitation just seemed trashy and…lax. But even if I had been willing to live together before marriage, I would not have even bothered to suggest this to my wife, because she would have said no.

    So that’s my advice, which is quite similar to the advice that everyone else has offered. Be a girly girl – wear your hair long, dress in feminine clothing, etc. Don’t be afraid to SAY that you are a girly girl who wants to get married and have children. Guys will respond to this.

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    @Steve Sailer
    What is "rachetness?" In college, my roommates and I decided to make up slang. Our best creation was "ratch" as in, "Stop ratching at me."

    Steve, urban dictionary explains ratchet. The third definition includes the etymology.

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  45. Priss Factor [AKA "pizza with hot pepper"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2014/oct/23/china-strikes-back/?insrc=hpss

    “What is more, it struck us as somehow emblematic of the suspicious, secretive, peremptory, punitive way in which official China now so often deports itself in the world, especially toward democracies, which it tends to view as especially seditious, even hostile.”

    But is the West really a democracy when twitter posters are arrested in UK, when Richard Spencer cannot even host an event in Hungary, when all US politicians must pledge to ICEPAC, when politicians grovel at the feet of the likes of Adelson while ignoring the majority who call for border enforcement, when any criticism of Yanomano power negates any participation in the political process, and etc?

    America is still a democracy in principle but not by any rules of how the power is really practiced.

    It’s a yanomanocracy.

    “What is more, China’s new confidence in its own system of Leninist capitalism and its new assertiveness in the world have only been encouraged by the spectacle of a paralyzed US Congress and Europe’s faltering governments. Such models of democratic practice leave Party officials feeling more justified than ever in rejecting Western democracy’s checks and balances, electoral politics, universal values, human rights, independent civil society, open media, and freedom of religious organization.”

    A canard. The west is not paralyzed by democratic political process but by globalist elitism. No matter whom the people elect, polis do the bidding of the yano elites. Cons know this as GOP polis care more about yanomasrael than white folks

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  46. Seems fairly equal — women want to date men in the top 20% of perceived desirability and men want the same thing. Which is why most students are frustrated in one way or another.

    I always had a thing for girls with glasses (increasing the desirable pool). In terms of raw sexual desirability, alas, the numbers are the numbers. No one, male or female, gets a free pass. The current generation of women are more articulate about expressing their frustrations, and less inhibited about it. Males are socialized to suck it up and not complain, since it is simply another sign of weakness.

    I don’t envy either sex. People never wise up until it is too late.

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  47. @Mr. Anon
    "...............such as the Harvard Business School, is a living hell for young women: the insensitivity, the repulsive frat house culture, the constantly being asked out on dates by future captains of industry..........."

    Given that the US is de-industrializing (thanks to the influence of places like HBS), and that so many Harvard Grads go to work for Wall Street, isn't the term "Captains of Industry" a bit old fashioned? Perhaps a new term is called for:

    Captains of Usury.

    “Perhaps a new term is called for:

    Captains of Usury.”

    That’s a good one. How about “Captains of Douchebaggery”?

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  48. @Steve Sailer
    What is "rachetness?" In college, my roommates and I decided to make up slang. Our best creation was "ratch" as in, "Stop ratching at me."

    From the Urban Dictionary:

    Ratchet

    A diva, mostly from urban cities and ghettos, that has reason to believe she is every mans eye candy. Unfortunately, she’s wrong.

    Typical signs to beware of include, but are not limited to: 
    -owning a Blackberry 
    -BLARES anything by Drake, 2Chainz, Nicki Minaj, Gucci Mane, Waka Flocka, Lil Wayne, T-Pain, Cali Swag District, or any other garbage entertainment rapper 
    -rowdily quotes “lyrics” from aforementioned artists 
    -has a weave reminiscent of a bird’s nest after a tempest hit the tree it was in, and is dyed at least thrice 
    -wears torn leggings/stalkings (mostly of the fishnet variety), unpolished 8″ heels (or higher, depending on how God-awful they look), fitted jean jackets (to accent the blubber ’round their arms and stomach), and 4 layers of caked on make-up to go clubbing 
    -repeatedly use ludicrous terms such as “YOLO”, “swag”, “boost”, “beaking”, “doe”, “really”, “naw”, “actually”, “twerk”, “coaster”, “dagga”, etc., to make a valid statement when they speak 
    -have side bangs, despite having incredibly small-ass foreheads to support them 
    -are commonly overweight 
    and are mind-numbingly stupid; a safe assumption to make would be saying they’re uneducated (as if they could pass the 4th grade)

    If spotted, please report to the authorities, notifying them that they are possible smack addicts, or potential, degenerate Chaka Khan look-alikes.

    Imagine a woman that wears skinny clothes, bad looking heels & fishnet stalkings, blasts Drake or Waka off her phone, would go out of her way as to cop CD’s from these artists, has a bad hairdo, looks immensely disgusting as a human being, and would rather spend her time maintaining her looks, communicating among her folk, and being a jobless, gold-digging bum for the rest of her days, not even bothering to get herself a good shower, a paying career, and a damned effort to earn a diploma.

    That, my comrades, is a prime notoriety of a ratchet.

    God help us all.

    by stupidniggerskerritpussclot81 August 09, 2012

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  49. @Whiskey
    IMHO, looks. The hottest women I knew consistently complained only jerks asked them out ... intimidation factor. Below average women compete with prn.

    Men are vusual creatures.

    “IMHO, looks. The hottest women I knew consistently complained only jerks asked them out … intimidation factor. Below average women compete with prn.”

    Yep. Given a choice between a perfect cyber 10 within my cozy masturbatorium versus a frumpy 4-minus in meatspace, I’ll take that cyber 10 every time. And I’ll bet most men would, too.

    So that means people will be more attractive in the future because the fugs aren’t reproducing thanks to pr9n. God bless pr9n? Amen?

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  50. Asif,

    A few suggestions:

    If you have debt, get rid of it. I dated several attractive women but when they told me they were drowning in debt, that was it for them.

    Don’t be a big spender. In this economy, if a guy wants a stay at home wife, he does not want to worry about what debt she is racking up while he’s at work all day. At least I don’t.

    Take care of your hair. Don’t just pull it up in a ponytail and call it good. There are lots of websites that teach you how to do interesting braids with your hair that are feminine if you do want to wear it up.

    As far as hobbies, it depends on where you live. If you live in an area near water, try sailing. Laser sailboats are affordable and fun. In my area, there are lots of organized events, both social and competitive. And it’s almost exclusively white. In general, I find that minorities just don’t care about water sports. Many blacks can’t swim and are terrified of water. Hispanics tend to only do water sports on the Rio Grande to get into the US. Asians seem more interested in the areas with the best schools than waterfront property that’s good for sailing. Sailing also tends to attract a more cerebral type than powerboat types. (Powerboats can be fun too and wake boarding and water skiing usually requires 3 people, one to ski, one to drive, and a spotter.) If you live in California, try windsurfing.

    I also second the vote for rock climbing. In other rural areas, learn to shoot. Or whitewater kayak (kayaking on a lake is for grandmothers). Basically if it’s an outdoor activity and it’s possible to acquire lot of fancy gear whether you need it or not, a white guy probably won’t be far away customizing his set up and basically being a nerd about it.

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  51. I grew up witnessing different kinds of unconventional (and regularly dysfunctional) romantic relationships…..

    Translation: “I grew up witnessing the typical sexual mores of the black community, aka The Ball of the Freaks.”

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  52. @Anonymous
    OT: isteve readers will enjoy this.

    http://gawker.com/on-the-glorification-of-the-side-chick-1642317478/all

    I'm a blackgirl, a blackgirl connoisseur of ratchetness, a blackgirl fascinated by media representations of other blackgirls, a blackgirl who cares deeply about the connection between ratchetness, representation, and lived experience.
     

    Robin M. Boylorn is Assistant Professor of Interpersonal and Intercultural Communication at the University of Alabama. She is the author of Sweetwater: Black Women and Narratives of Resilience and co-editor of Critical Autoethnography: Intersecting Cultural Identities in Everyday Life. She is also a member and contributing writer of the Crunk Feminist Collective.
     

    “I’m a blackgirl, a blackgirl connoisseur of ratchetness, a blackgirl fascinated by media representations of other blackgirls, a blackgirl who cares deeply about the connection between ratchetness, representation, and lived experience.”

    LOL. Run, hamster, run!

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  53. “Just givin’ u guys the other perspective :) Life isn’t all roses and dandelions for all women.”

    There’s an easy solution, one which most people eventually have to come to terms with, and that is that you likely won’t date someone who is exactly what you’re looking for; most people think of themselves more favorably than the rest of the world thinks of them. In the movies, everything is roses and dandelions and works out, but in real life it doesn’t work that way.

    You say you’re not batting out of your league, but then you say things about turning down a liberal guy who asked you out, turning down asian guys, etc. If you can’t expand your dating options in some way- go online, ask guys out instead of expecting them to ask you (and yes, some women do this, I had a woman ask me out back when I was single, and I never had guessed that she had any interest in me) etc, that you aren’t doing now, then your options are going to be limited to dating those guys that are available and asking you out. Or not dating.

    I’ll tell you an anecdote. There is a woman where I work, who is in her early 30s, who keeps pining to her female coworkers about wanting a boyfriend/husband. She’s bright, friendly, probably would be pretty if she were not obese. But then when the matter is discussed among them, it turns out there are some guys who are interested in her, write to her, ask her out, come up with corny gimmicks to try to get to know her. But she shuts them all down. Turns out she is pining for a wealthy handsome man her age or a little bit older, over 6 feet tall, making a high salary, etc. You get the picture. Then she complains that these guys are only interested in ‘skinny 20 yr olds’, and aren’t giving her a chance. Obviously, if its true that they only want these girls, and she only wants these guys, then this would never work. So if this is true, and she won’t work to lose the weight to open up the playing field, then the other option is to accept the playing field as it is- if she wants to still date.

    As the saying goes, ‘even the wise live in a fool’s paradise’. It doesn’t matter what we think about how foolish the other side are being for not dating us, its the way things are, and you either have to accept the dating field that is available, or expend the effort and time to do whatever needs to be done to open it up to find a guy who is more like your ideal. Or accept not dating. Its really that simple.

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  54. @Anonymous
    They enter as females but do they change into something else while at Purdue?

    They enter as females but do they change into something else while at Purdue?

    Also, consider the female engineers who are entering as males but will soon transition. Please don’t marginalize them!
    :-)

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  55. This reminds me why I hate my mother. She did the worst thing a woman can do to her son – send him to a boys school.

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  56. @Robbie
    HA!

    Ex-Female Engineer here (whose still single and VERY UPSET and VERY WORRIED about that :( :( but with no clue of what to do about it)

    First off, there are no white men left in engineering. So of the 5 white guys who were in my engineering master's degree program they all married like kindergarten teachers and what not.

    The one...and only one..guy who asked me out on a date ended up being a liberal with some other incompatibilities.

    Then at work I literally hit men on the head trying to get someone...anyone to ask me out. I still don't understand what is wrong with me or them. It's so crazy. I remember I just got so badly ignored by everyone.

    I don't bat out of my league, so don't attempt to blame that.

    Also the other female engineers who were white were also single. So that really scared me.

    My asian ex-gf got married to a white engineer from college...ahh great...Needless to say I don't like asians...I remember she made a big deal about showing my photo to all the white engineers in a fraternity asking who would date me...but to this day I think it was cruel thing that she was doing...It wasn't meant to be a nice thing. And was more meant to help herself then to help me. Very strange. I don't like asians :)

    Just givin' u guys the other perspective :) Life isn't all roses and dandelions for all women.

    First off, there are no white men left in engineering.

    The number of White men in Engineering probably varies greatly depending on the specialty. When I did my MBA at the University of FL in the late ’90s, I took six graduate-level Computer Science courses as my area of concentration. I was the only White male in every course and kind of an exotic attraction. One attractive Indian female was incredulous that any Americans were taking grad-level Computer Science courses and asked me, “so, where are you from? England?” All the students were either Indian or Chinese, except for one smart Jamaican female.

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  57. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment


    Given that the US is de-industrializing (thanks to the influence of places like HBS), and that so many Harvard Grads go to work for Wall Street, isn’t the term “Captains of Industry” a bit old fashioned? Perhaps a new term is called for:

    Captains of Usury.

    That’s a good one. How about “Captains of Douchebaggery”?

    Steve Sailer is one of those MBA guys. Maybe that accounts for his libertarianism?

    The MBA is a phony academic degree. The degree didn’t exist until after a half-century into the Industrial Age, in the early 20th century, in the U.S. Neither Harvard no Wharton were offering the degree yet when Ford was producing Model T’s. This degree did exist in Europe until the late 1950′s.

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  58. …such as the Harvard Business School, is a living hell for young women: the insensitivity, the repulsive frat house culture, the constantly being asked out on dates by future captains of industry …

    This is pure fabrication. Certainly not HBS, but I attended the full-time two-year MBA program at the University of FL in the late ’90s. The class was 30% female. There was absolutely no insensitivity or “frat house” culture. All students worked together and got along quite well.

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  59. Ivy [AKA "Enquiring Mind"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Big city women who buy into the Narrative typically have a credibility problem. They want their idealized life (and will tell you what yours should be, too) but are not willing to look objectively at the underlying contradictions and false premises.

    As an example, whining about mistreatment by men while ignoring their own contemptible treatment of women (remember how horrible some made high school for others?
    That doesn’t go away on the job, but does morph into more sophisticated treatment), just does not ring true. They double down on the denial, and turn up the Megaphone volume to drown out or shout down the doubters.

    Such women need to reexamine their motives and values. Fortunately, they are in the minority, and there are vastly more decent women to meet, get to know, love and marry.

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  60. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Formerly CARealist
    Aslf, let me give you some encouragement. Me and lots of my friends were in your boat in the 90's. We all wound up marrying older, divorced guys and now we have splendid marriages. I know it doesn't sound ideal getting leftovers, but lots of those guys have been burned by marrying for looks and now want character and true companionship (and someone a bit younger). It works pretty darn well, actually. don't give up hope; marrying in the more mature years has plenty of advantages, even if you have to endure all the loneliness that precedes it.

    What about late 30′s to early 40′s never-married nerdy guys? At least we’re not leftovers.

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  61. @Whiskey
    IMHO, looks. The hottest women I knew consistently complained only jerks asked them out ... intimidation factor. Below average women compete with prn.

    Men are vusual creatures.

    I think it is allowed to spell out porn on this website, Whiskey.

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  62. http://time.com/3445018/lena-dunham-not-that-kind-of-girl-rape-essay/

    Dunham claims she was raped by a “Republican with an infamous reputation” lol.

    This is after she claims she tried to urinate in public(a felony if a man does it) and then talked dirty to her mystery Republican “bad boy” hunk.

    Notice though the bad guy couldn’t just be some random non-political guy — he’s a Republican….

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  63. Purdue doesn’t tilt that heavily male like a pure technical school such as Rensselaer Polytechnic does.

    Are you sure that RPI is still that heavily male? I was told that the entering freshman class at MIT this year was 50% women (compared to maybe 10% when I was there in the late 60′s).

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    • Replies: @meep
    RPI is 70% male. In fact, there's a charming little women's liberal arts college next door, Russell Sage Women's College. If I ever have a daughter who just wants to be a SAHM, I'd try and send her there. I swear, every girl is engaged to an RPI guy with good earning potential by graduation because they are rare hot commodities.

    http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rpi-2803
  64. Priss Factor [AKA "pizza with hot pepper"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    I can’t wait for trans-species people.

    Indeed, what if bio-engineering can make horns and tails grow in people?

    Or make teeth sharp like those of wolves or tigers?

    Or make fur grow all over the body?

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  65. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    I know of at least four female friends from college currently at HBS. Each of them is a highly attractive, highly sociable girl with limited intellectual interests, but pretty decent cognitive capacity. Their Facebook feeds and what they tell me they’re doing is identical–it looks like a rerun of Greek life, with the constant costume parties and everything.

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  66. @Rex Little

    Purdue doesn’t tilt that heavily male like a pure technical school such as Rensselaer Polytechnic does.
     
    Are you sure that RPI is still that heavily male? I was told that the entering freshman class at MIT this year was 50% women (compared to maybe 10% when I was there in the late 60's).

    RPI is 70% male. In fact, there’s a charming little women’s liberal arts college next door, Russell Sage Women’s College. If I ever have a daughter who just wants to be a SAHM, I’d try and send her there. I swear, every girl is engaged to an RPI guy with good earning potential by graduation because they are rare hot commodities.

    http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rpi-2803

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    • Replies: @Rex Little
    I remember Russell Sage; my best friend from high school went to RPI and married a girl from Sage.

    Interestingly, the 70/30 sex ratio you cite for RPI is the same as what was quoted for Purdue.
  67. @meep
    RPI is 70% male. In fact, there's a charming little women's liberal arts college next door, Russell Sage Women's College. If I ever have a daughter who just wants to be a SAHM, I'd try and send her there. I swear, every girl is engaged to an RPI guy with good earning potential by graduation because they are rare hot commodities.

    http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rpi-2803

    I remember Russell Sage; my best friend from high school went to RPI and married a girl from Sage.

    Interestingly, the 70/30 sex ratio you cite for RPI is the same as what was quoted for Purdue.

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  68. Why all the concern ? There are worse things than being alone. The freedom to do what you want when you want is worth a lot.

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    Some people who live alone have an active romantic and social life. Others have an active social life but no romantic success. Still others have no success finding romantic partners or friends. Since we don't know much about As If's situation, we can't be sure which group she falls into, but I suspect it's one of the latter two. A lot of people in the third group are strong introverts or have personality defects that make them undesirable. However, put yourself in their shoes and try to understand that even the introverts get lonely sometimes and that most people have sexual desires.
  69. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @donut
    Why all the concern ? There are worse things than being alone. The freedom to do what you want when you want is worth a lot.

    Some people who live alone have an active romantic and social life. Others have an active social life but no romantic success. Still others have no success finding romantic partners or friends. Since we don’t know much about As If’s situation, we can’t be sure which group she falls into, but I suspect it’s one of the latter two. A lot of people in the third group are strong introverts or have personality defects that make them undesirable. However, put yourself in their shoes and try to understand that even the introverts get lonely sometimes and that most people have sexual desires.

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  70. “My goodness! If only 30% enter as females, how many exit as females?”

    You mean how many exit as World War T Transhumans ?

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  71. @cipher
    "...mostly looking for dates at work?"

    One assumes engineers are capable of reading their firm's sexual harrasment policies and comprehending the fate of he who runs afoul of them.

    “One assumes engineers are capable of reading their firm’s sexual harrasment policies and comprehending the fate of he who runs afoul of them.”

    One would think that sexual harassment policies were put in place primarily to help women separate the alpha males from the betas. Alphas aren’t going to let something like a firm’s sexual harassment policy keep them from hitting on women. Beta males are more likely to be intimidated by such rules. And the beta male who dares make a poor, awkward attempt at hitting on a girl is precisely who these laws were meant to punish.

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    • Replies: @Another Canadian

    One would think that sexual harassment policies were put in place primarily to help women separate the alpha males from the betas. Alphas aren’t going to let something like a firm’s sexual harassment policy keep them from hitting on women. Beta males are more likely to be intimidated by such rules. And the beta male who dares make a poor, awkward attempt at hitting on a girl is precisely who these laws were meant to punish.
     
    I got put on the C.L.M. track 25 years ago for such antics. The company "alphas" were pissed off that I was infringing on their territory. My wife and I still laugh about it and I always advised my kids that no job is worth missing out on a good spouse.
    , @MaMu1977
    Why date at work when there are millions of available women on this planet? That's like visiting an apple orchard and targeting the one fenced-off crabapple tree. If you're willing to... amend your standards, you can eat as many ripe apples as you like (or even, dare I say, pay for a promising sapling) without Farmer Dworkin grabbing his axe.
  72. @AsIf

    This is kind of an old thread and all but I have to ask: Have you ever considered that you come off as super crazy?

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  73. @Hapalong Cassidy
    "One assumes engineers are capable of reading their firm’s sexual harrasment policies and comprehending the fate of he who runs afoul of them."

    One would think that sexual harassment policies were put in place primarily to help women separate the alpha males from the betas. Alphas aren't going to let something like a firm's sexual harassment policy keep them from hitting on women. Beta males are more likely to be intimidated by such rules. And the beta male who dares make a poor, awkward attempt at hitting on a girl is precisely who these laws were meant to punish.

    One would think that sexual harassment policies were put in place primarily to help women separate the alpha males from the betas. Alphas aren’t going to let something like a firm’s sexual harassment policy keep them from hitting on women. Beta males are more likely to be intimidated by such rules. And the beta male who dares make a poor, awkward attempt at hitting on a girl is precisely who these laws were meant to punish.

    I got put on the C.L.M. track 25 years ago for such antics. The company “alphas” were pissed off that I was infringing on their territory. My wife and I still laugh about it and I always advised my kids that no job is worth missing out on a good spouse.

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  74. @Robbie
    HA!

    Ex-Female Engineer here (whose still single and VERY UPSET and VERY WORRIED about that :( :( but with no clue of what to do about it)

    First off, there are no white men left in engineering. So of the 5 white guys who were in my engineering master's degree program they all married like kindergarten teachers and what not.

    The one...and only one..guy who asked me out on a date ended up being a liberal with some other incompatibilities.

    Then at work I literally hit men on the head trying to get someone...anyone to ask me out. I still don't understand what is wrong with me or them. It's so crazy. I remember I just got so badly ignored by everyone.

    I don't bat out of my league, so don't attempt to blame that.

    Also the other female engineers who were white were also single. So that really scared me.

    My asian ex-gf got married to a white engineer from college...ahh great...Needless to say I don't like asians...I remember she made a big deal about showing my photo to all the white engineers in a fraternity asking who would date me...but to this day I think it was cruel thing that she was doing...It wasn't meant to be a nice thing. And was more meant to help herself then to help me. Very strange. I don't like asians :)

    Just givin' u guys the other perspective :) Life isn't all roses and dandelions for all women.

    First off, there are no white men left in engineering.

    Here is the commencement video from Rose Hulman, a top 5 engineering school. It’s long, but I think the walk starts at about 1:45:00. Lotsa lotsa white males, most of whom are not that geeky. If you want a normal, white engineer, then you have to look where the normal, white engineers are. Midwestern engineering schools. No coasts. No public ivies.

    Most of the guys in the video look like they would not only be able to fix your broken dishwasher but that they would enjoy doing it.

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  75. @Hapalong Cassidy
    "One assumes engineers are capable of reading their firm’s sexual harrasment policies and comprehending the fate of he who runs afoul of them."

    One would think that sexual harassment policies were put in place primarily to help women separate the alpha males from the betas. Alphas aren't going to let something like a firm's sexual harassment policy keep them from hitting on women. Beta males are more likely to be intimidated by such rules. And the beta male who dares make a poor, awkward attempt at hitting on a girl is precisely who these laws were meant to punish.

    Why date at work when there are millions of available women on this planet? That’s like visiting an apple orchard and targeting the one fenced-off crabapple tree. If you’re willing to… amend your standards, you can eat as many ripe apples as you like (or even, dare I say, pay for a promising sapling) without Farmer Dworkin grabbing his axe.

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  76. I don’t get these “red pill” types. I understand they are unhappy with rampant, radical feminism, but their solution is what? To be man-whores?

    I married quite a prize – an Ivy League co-ed who was attractive enough to do some modeling (catalogue, not anything super glitzy), a phenomenal athlete (rowing), and a brainiac (STEM grad school). And quite a virtuous young lady from a rich, traditional family who waited for a husband. And I am an ethnically Asian male, and some say Asian males are of low value in the “dating market” in this country.

    To be quite immodest, I’ve been told that I am good-looking, athletic, and intelligent. I am not going to lie – those attributes help a lot. But there were many other good-looking, athletic, and intelligent young men around who desired my eventual wife. I caught her eye early on for two other reasons.

    When we first met at a beach party, I dared her to dive into bottom of the freezing water with me and offered to buy her lunch if she did so. As the SAS motto goes “qui audet adipiscitur” (who dares wins). She did and we had lunch, our first date.

    Later in one of our early dates, it snowed heavily. We arrived at our destination in a car and I could tell she was reluctant to plow into the snow in her dress. So after a “May I?” I lifted her up and carried her to the curb, so her dress wouldn’t be disturbed by snow.

    Much later, she told me that what struck her about me was my daring and chivalry. My recommendation to young men looking for love is, try that instead of attempting to “game” women. They would be surprised how much women, even those who profess to being feminists, value old-fashioned men.

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