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We went to see Black Panther, but that was sold out until 10:45 pm (front row only), so we went down the street to the $3 Theater, which is now the $3.50 Theater due to the success of Trumponomics, and saw the mystery hit movie The Greatest Showman with Hugh Jackman as a singing and dancing P.T. Barnum.

Nobody could imagine a straight-to-the-screen P.T. Barnum musical would be a hit in 2017-18, but after taking in less than $9 million its opening weekend and receiving dismissive reviews, it just kept going and going and will break $150 million by Friday.

This is what the public wants.

The Greatest Showman is not the same show as the 1980 Broadway musical hit Barnum with Jim Dale as the circus impresario and Glenn Close as Mrs. Barnum, but the storyline is pretty much the same: Barnum becomes a big success with his freak show, but then in 1850 falls in love with Jenny Lind, the Swedish Nightingale, but then returns to Mrs. Barnum (played by Michelle Williams in the movie).

At the $3.50 theater, the black ladies in the audience were particularly emphatic in their distaste for the wily snare laid for our hero’s affections by Jenny Lind: “Homewrecker!” one observed. “Ummphhhh!” another pointedly noted.

The secret of this PG-rated movie’s popularity is that it will make a popular high school (or middle school) musical in the near future.

The choreography is energetic dubstep that doesn’t require much skill to dance. The dialogue won’t confuse too many people.

The kids will not have to be funny in their acting, just super-sincere. Personally, I’ve always kind of gotten P.T. Barnum confused with W.C. Fields. Besides the initials, Barnum was famous for saying, “There’s a sucker born every minute” (although he probably didn’t say it), while Fields said, “Never give a sucker an even break.” Fields frequently played a Barnumesque character, such as the carnival barker displaying two normal-sized twins:

The Punkwat twins! Brentwood is the world’s smallest giant, whilst his brother, Elwood, is the largest midget in the world. They baffle science.

(Is W.C. Fields the most forgotten of the comedy giants?)

But in this movie, Barnum never says anything cynical. He’s just very earnest as he leads the struggle for Freak Awareness.

There are two supporting roles for fat kids in the future school production as the Bearded Lady and the World’s Fattest Man.

The lead roles appeared designed to cut down on the kind of audition feuds that recently sank the Ithaca High School production of Hunchback of Notre Dame. The Greatest Showman has three roughly equal leading lady roles, which is a good idea since probably nothing is more of a pain to high school teachers than dealing with the fallout from not casting ambitious drama queens in the main female role.

And if you are a handsome boy who tries out for the Hugh Jackman role and doesn’t get it, you can still get the Zac Efron role as Barnum’s junior business partner, which is almost identical to the title role, just smaller.

Zac Efron’s character is in The Greatest Showman presumably because Zac was in High School Musical and that’s pretty much the theme of the new movie: this would make a good high school musical.

A lot of the old time musicals that high schools put on are way too sophisticated for today’s youth, so why not create a new musical that doesn’t have complex George Bernard Shaw dialogue like My Fair Lady or high quality Frank Loesser songs like Guys and Dolls.

The songs are by the guys who wrote La La Land’s lyrics, but not that movie’s music, unfortunately. I went to a UCLA football game last fall at the Rose Bowl and the UCLA marching band gave a concert afterwards. Marching bands are always looking for current popular hits that would be semi-okay when orchestrated for 200 horns. In “Another Day of Sun,” (the opening freeway song in La La Land), the UCLA band has a spectacularly orchestrated new jazz number that will likely become a standard for them.

As you may recall awhile ago there was a giant Sex Discrimination scandal because when Kevin Spacey got replaced by Christopher Plummer at the last moment in All the Money in the World, Michelle Williams redid her scenes for union scale, while Mark Wahlberg’s shark-like agent got his client $1.5 million to redo his scenes. Clearly, the producers just gave $1.5 million to Wahlberg because of his Male Privilege.

Well, no, actually. The reason Wahlberg’s contract gave him co-star approval while Williams did not is because Wahlberg has Star Privilege while practically nobody can recognize Michelle Williams. She’s fine in the nice mom lady role in this movie, just as she’s always pretty good, but she has a forgettable name and face. That’s not fair, but who said being a movie star was a matter of fairness?

 
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  1. Critics (55%) and audience (89%) disagree at Rotten Tomatoes for this film. While the Black Panther movie gets a measly 77% audience score.

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    • Replies: @whorefinder
    I predict that We Wuz Panthers audience score will plummet just like Star Wars: The Last White guy, right down to just-sub-mediocre.

    There's a reason they released it in February, blocked people from posting bad critical reviews, and heavily promoted it to blacks as opposed to everyone: it's a sub-par Marvel movie they thought would flop, so turned it into a race-war.
    , @J.Ross
    MUSCOVY STRIKES AGAIN!
    , @George
    77% audience score is after 2 days. Wonder Woman and Thor final score are both at 88%. It will be interesting to see how it is explained if BP box office does not live up to the hype.
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  2. W.C. Fields would have been ideal for the lead in the future biopic musical “The Donald.”

    Him, or John Candy.

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    Robert Preston
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  3. Glad I don’t have the kind of job that compels me to see Black Panther.

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  4. YMMV, but in my own opinion, Fields’ comedy has aged rather well. As has Laurel & Hardy’s act. Not as well as the Marx Bros., but respectable so.

    Not aged well at all: Abbott & Costello. And above all, Charlie Chaplin.

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    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

    Not aged well at all: Abbott & Costello.

     

    Video: Who's On First.

    'Hu' joke spreads ignorance – The Mercury News

    BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Costello 'sorry' for China jibes

    Costello Really Sorry for 'Hu' Crack

    Group Not Satisfied With Abbott & Costello Apology - CBS News

    Abbott & Costello Apologizes for Racist Comedy Skit

    Asian Leaders Angered by Abbott & Costello's "Who's On First"

    Outrage Grows Over Abbott's Asian Joke

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  5. “Is W.C. Fields the most forgotten of the comedy giants?”

    Back in the late 50′a early 60′s the local theater in the town in Ohio (Pop. 22,000) where I lived used to show old movies for the matinees in the summer . Silent movies and early talkies : W. C. Fields , Laurel and Hardy , Harold Lloyd , etc. almost all comedies . I still like those old movies .

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  6. Fields hasn’t aged well. Ironic. He was a very big star. So big he was able to negotiate creative control of his films. He was also very methodical in writing and developing his material. Plus he was very physically talented. Of course he was also a major league alcoholic.
    I’ve enjoyed him for years, though i do not share the popular opinion that The Bank Dick is the best film.
    On a related note…
    I worked with a youngish 30 something guy who had no familiarity with The Marx Brothers, the 3 Stooges and Abbot and Costello. The reason? “I don’t watch black and white movies.”

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    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Most people aren't into old films. And another significant chunk of people, including me, aren't really into films of any age.

    I do occasionally enjoy watching some of the earliest "talkies." It's kind of surreal watching films for which every last person involved in the film's production has been dead for years. It's really like stepping into a time machine. But I'm not really into silent film at all. I like to hear sound.

    , @theMann
    well if there are an infinite number of universes with an infinite number of mes, in one of them I might care about Musicals.....but I doubt it.
    , @larry lurker

    I worked with a youngish 30 something guy who had no familiarity with The Marx Brothers, the 3 Stooges and Abbot and Costello. The reason? “I don’t watch black and white movies.”
     
    I'm a youngish 30-something guy and while I would never say something so philistine, it really is kind of hard to go from watching modern movies in 4K/widescreen/7.1 audio to something letterboxed and colorless with tinny, monaural audio. There's just so much less audio-visual information to take in.

    It wouldn't/didn't keep me from watching Citizen Kane though, like it did the guy you worked with...
    , @anonymouslee
    A better reason: they're not funny
    , @YetAnotherAnon

    a youngish 30 something guy who had no familiarity with The Marx Brothers, the 3 Stooges and Abbot and Costello
     
    If you've not seen the Susquehanna Hat sketch, something is missing from your life (or you aren't still a big kid).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THZV5g1CNZM
    , @whorefinder
    W.C. Fields's comedy also would be un-p.c. today: he was often bashing women and small children with his insults. Feminists would be up in arms at the former, and the "no bullying" idiots would be at the latter.

    Also, he wasn't of the same tribe as the (((Marx Brothers))), whose later tribe members have kept them remembered despite un-p.c. overtones.
    , @Steve Sailer
    Young people don't watch black and white movies.

    What Field's movie is better than The Bank Dick?

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  7. @Busby
    Fields hasn't aged well. Ironic. He was a very big star. So big he was able to negotiate creative control of his films. He was also very methodical in writing and developing his material. Plus he was very physically talented. Of course he was also a major league alcoholic.
    I've enjoyed him for years, though i do not share the popular opinion that The Bank Dick is the best film.
    On a related note...
    I worked with a youngish 30 something guy who had no familiarity with The Marx Brothers, the 3 Stooges and Abbot and Costello. The reason? "I don't watch black and white movies."

    Most people aren’t into old films. And another significant chunk of people, including me, aren’t really into films of any age.

    I do occasionally enjoy watching some of the earliest “talkies.” It’s kind of surreal watching films for which every last person involved in the film’s production has been dead for years. It’s really like stepping into a time machine. But I’m not really into silent film at all. I like to hear sound.

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  8. ‘The Greatest Showman’ can only be that late British ‘entertainer’, Bruce Forsyth.

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    If it wasn't for Toast of London, I would have no idea who you're talking about.
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  9. Mark Wahlberg should have been willing to act for less, after all he has his hamburger income to fall back upon.

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    • Replies: @CK
    What does the one thing have to do with the other thing?
    It's always envy time in America.
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  10. @Cortes
    W.C. Fields would have been ideal for the lead in the future biopic musical “The Donald.”

    Him, or John Candy.

    Robert Preston

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    Ah, yes, Centauri!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvtt94Oz4N4
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  11. I like me some Scifi to watch and have been impressed by Altered Carbon on Netflix

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  12. the black ladies in the audience were particularly emphatic in their distaste for the wily snare laid for our hero’s affections by Jenny Lind: “Homewrecker!” one observed. “Ummphhhh!” another pointedly noted.

    I do sometimes miss the days of going to a packed blockbuster in my old majority black neighborhood cinema. Every night was audience participation night!

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Every night was audience participation night!
     
    I didn't know that many black people liked The Rocky Horror Picture Show? Talk about your audience participation ... that's probably just my white privilege showing again, as I was privileged to have the money for the squirt guns, bread, and rice to shoot and throw during the appropriate scenes. "He's got no neck!"
    , @Pat Boyle
    I remember seeing one of the Bruce Lee films in some ghetto theater. Several of the black men in the audience demonstrated their talent with their nunchakus for the delectation of the others.
    , @ChrisZ
    Almost: As a kid in the '70s some friends and I played hooky from our suburban school and went into the city to catch the opening day matinee of "Excalibur," John Boorman's lavish take on King Arthur. Fantasy films were rare back then and could elicit genuine surprise; the audience demographic was as you would expect, and was a new experience for all of us.

    At one point in the film (IIRC), a young and extremely nubile Helen Mirren confronted Nicole Williamson's Merlin with a boa constrictor wrapped around her body. "Audience participation" (as you call it) reached a crescendo. "Whoa! Thazza big-a$$ snake!" still gets a big laugh whenever I get together with my old buddies.
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  13. Speaking of Marky Mark, the LA Open is this week. Riviera looks in fine form, dry and fast.

    I did my annual real estate price check on the homes overlooking Riviera and only one seems available. 19.2 million but you are right by the clubhouse. The prices have risen from merely expensive the Cote d’Or levels.

    What I did not know was Rockingham Ave was so close. OJ and all that.

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  14. In more innocent times (1993, so not long after the LA riots and around the peak of America’s crack wars), at a point when I still occasionally ventured out on a Saturday evening, I tried to see Malcolm X on its opening weekend in central London. The bruthas had apparently turned out in force, and it was sold out, so I ended up watching Tom Berenger in Sniper in the smallest auditorium I’ve ever been in. Can’t remember much about it, but I think some people got shot.

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  15. People seem to be picking up on my idea that the BP is not really black,but a white guy,some would say a WN,in blackface. Nationalist values are greatly attractive;most people’s want them for themselves,(Jews in Israel),but deny them to those they hate,(Jews,well, in every white nation).
    Blacks sure don’t seem anxious for diversity when they got Wakanda.
    Except for sex. I mentioned that black sexuality would make Wakanda a joke. (Where da White wimmenz at?,says King Chaka whoever,would be his first act upon landing on our shores.)
    Maybe they should’ve added a sort of playful/malicious type character who could act as the Kings lieutenant. He would embody black sex and violence values,(WDWWA), but still be removed from the King.
    He would steal the show. And put lots of assess in seats.
    You want a black
    movie? “Sweet Sweetback and His Badass Song.”

    BTW I will be seeing BP dressed in blackface,so’s I can fit in.

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  16. @Busby
    Fields hasn't aged well. Ironic. He was a very big star. So big he was able to negotiate creative control of his films. He was also very methodical in writing and developing his material. Plus he was very physically talented. Of course he was also a major league alcoholic.
    I've enjoyed him for years, though i do not share the popular opinion that The Bank Dick is the best film.
    On a related note...
    I worked with a youngish 30 something guy who had no familiarity with The Marx Brothers, the 3 Stooges and Abbot and Costello. The reason? "I don't watch black and white movies."

    well if there are an infinite number of universes with an infinite number of mes, in one of them I might care about Musicals…..but I doubt it.

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  17. We went to see Black Panther, …

    I really don’t get this, Steve. I’ve seen, what?, 10 posts or so on this Wakanda business. I don’t particularly care about the movie but do understand the effects of the bullshit pseudo-history on people of the darker persuasion. That’s what you have been writing about.

    Why support this crap, then? Hell, I know it’s good for you, or anyone, to get off the internet for a while. You could have gone to play golf or ogle a new golf course; I wouldn’t have written anything bad (cause I wouldn’t have read it), and more power to you. But giving $10 – $20 to the people that you rail against doesn’t make a damn bit of sense to me.

    You were a marketing guy, right? It’s all about the money. They don’t care what Steve Sailer writes about them, but they would care if 1,000,000 Sailers and Sailer-reading potential movie-goers don’t show up.

    … but that was sold out.

    You inadvertently did the right thing then, or are you going again next week?

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    • Replies: @Karl
    7 Achmed E Newman > You inadvertently did the right thing then, or are you going again next week?


    The good news is that Steve Sailer is the best writer that the Hurt-Feelings-About-Jews Enterprise has.

    the bad news is that Steve Sailer is the best writer that the Hurt-Feelings-About-Jews Enterprise has
    , @anon
    He's seeing it so none of the readers need to.
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  18. @Almost Missouri

    the black ladies in the audience were particularly emphatic in their distaste for the wily snare laid for our hero’s affections by Jenny Lind: “Homewrecker!” one observed. “Ummphhhh!” another pointedly noted.
     
    I do sometimes miss the days of going to a packed blockbuster in my old majority black neighborhood cinema. Every night was audience participation night!

    Every night was audience participation night!

    I didn’t know that many black people liked The Rocky Horror Picture Show? Talk about your audience participation … that’s probably just my white privilege showing again, as I was privileged to have the money for the squirt guns, bread, and rice to shoot and throw during the appropriate scenes. “He’s got no neck!”

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  19. Entirely off-topic: evidently and unsurprisingly, Moynihan’s Law of Proximity to the Canadian Border applies to self-perceived sexiness as well:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-15/united-states-sex-survey-17000-women

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    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Yeah California! Of all the obese waddling Mexican women, ours are the sexiest. No no, that’s not fair: a lot of the white women are tubs too.
    , @Jonathan Mason
    Florida and Alaska are both peni(n)s(ular), so probably that has a lot to do how the local women feel, but you have to feel sorry for the men in landlocked straight-edged South Dakota.
    , @J.Ross
    >The Carolinas have the same range as Michigan
    Yeah, no. Throw that away. Going from Michigan to the Carolinas to do construction you are battered with the fact that everyone in Michigan is fat -- even the thin Michiganders are fat -- and there are enough Carolinians who can pull off denim cutoffs that it is a sort of uniform. (By "pull off" is meant "wear without looking like they are effortfully denying a mistake.") There's probably fat people there but they're not omnipresent.
    , @Big Bill
    Show me the second map -- the American obesity map.

    And then do a mashup-map of obesity-times-sexy.

    Label it the American Female Self-Delusion map.
    , @Anonymous
    It roughly coincides with the map of states with the greatest obesity. Say what?!
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  20. I was just about to rise up in massive indignation to point out that – No, W.C. Fields was not forgotten but rather that he was the center of a film appreciation class I took at San Francisco State.

    But then I realized that that film class – still green in my memory – was from 1968. That was only about thirty years after the Fields films had been released but a full half century ago now.

    So maybe Fields is forgotten now. It’s hard to keep up.

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    • Replies: @anonymous
    I can hardly wait! Truth, Tiny Duck and I are going to see Panther this weekend (I fandango’d us some premo seats), then we going to meet Art Deco at Schnippersnew Thunder Bun Resto (don’t scold Art will be ordering from the lighter side menu) for an aprés le film ciné-feast and dialogue. And it’s my tab because friends are special.
    , @anonymous
    As I recall, Fields had a field day in the late 60s , rising to the level of cult status. Indeed, his image can be seen on the cover of the Sgt. Pepper album. Not sure why, other than the implicit cynicism in many of his characters. I was never a big fan of his, preferring instead the inspired madness of the Marx Brothers and the rapid fire give-and-take of Abbott/Costello. Beginning in the 70s, Fields began to fade from view while Abbot/Costello wound up in the Baseball Hall of Fame (literally).
    , @Steve Sailer
    W.C. Fields was huge in the 1960s and 1970s, much like the Marx Brothers and Humphrey Bogart.
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  21. There are now six negative reviews for Black Jesus, err, Panther. Putting it at 97%/77% on Rotten Tomatoes. Below The Godfather (1972) @98/98 but above Gone With The Wind @93/93.
    More evidence that like children and those with Down’s Syndrome, Africans must be praised vastly above their accomplishments outside of sports even if they’re not really accomplishments.
    Is Black Panther in the same league as The Godfather or Gone With The Wind? If the cast were White, of course not (the negative reviews I’ve seen put it in the lower tier of Marvel comic book movies along with The Hulk). But it has a mostly African cast and because it was released in Black ”History” Month, these ”permanent children” must be praised just like when your kid draws the outline of their hand and some squiggles as a picture of a turkey.
    Now I don’t hate them, I just believe they should be treated like small children or those with Down’s Syndrome. IOW they can’t be equal to adult Whites because they aren’t capable of it.
    Look at Baltimore, Detroit, Haiti – or increasingly, South Africa. Africans are Africans wherever on Earth they are.

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    • Agree: Kylie, Bill Jones, MBlanc46
    • Replies: @Alden
    Agree, agree agree, nothing for me to add.
    , @Jefferson
    "More evidence that like children and those with Down’s Syndrome,"

    Down Syndrome people are more pleasant to hang out with than a militant hate Whitey Black social justice warrior who believes Wakanda is as non fictional as Ancient Rome was.

    , @BB753
    The worst part about Blacks is that they hate you and make no efforts to hide it, even the "talented tenth".
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  22. I see that they have just this month extracted DNA from some Egyptian mummy teeth. Analysis of that DNA seems to clearly and unequivocally show that the ancient Egyptians were descended from Caucasians from the Levant not black negroes from sub-Saharan Africa.

    So one of the pillars of the Black Athena (We wuz Kangz) movement that underlies the idea of Wakanda and the movie “Black Panther” has been knocked out in unambiguous terms. Maybe all this silliness will now die down.

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    Maybe all this silliness will now die down.
    Seems reasonable. ;)
    , @Nigerian Nationalist
    I see opinion, but no links...
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    When did facts ever interfere with ideology?
    , @The Alarmist
    There might be other evidence that the "We're all out of Africa" thingy might be a myth, though it is still a lot of conjecture at this point:

    https://www.sciencealert.com/ancient-teeth-rewrite-human-history-9-7-million-year-old-mystery
    , @Corn
    “Maybe all this silliness will now die down.”

    You’re quite the optimist my friend
    , @TheJester
    23&Me says that I have more Neanderthal genes than 94% of their customers. Black Africans have no Neanderthal genes ... ergo, this proves we did not all "come out of Africa".

    Those of us from Northern and Western Europe related to the Neaderthals are different in kind from the sub-Saharan Black Africans. Maybe that's the difference. I'll account my White-Skinned Green-Eyed Privilege and life's accomplishments to this difference.
    , @Dave from Oz
    "Analysis of that DNA seems to clearly and unequivocally show that the ancient Egyptians were descended from Caucasians from the Levant not black negroes from sub-Saharan Africa."

    The ancient egyptians *that could afford to be mummified*. And wasn't Cleopatra basically greek?
    , @MBlanc46
    Die down? Fat chance. SJWs always double down (pace Vox Day).
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  23. To: Faux Sailer

    I assume math is more your thing.

    To: J

    Aren’t you living in Texas?

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    @Pat Boyle
    I was just about to rise up in massive indignation to point out that - No, W.C. Fields was not forgotten but rather that he was the center of a film appreciation class I took at San Francisco State.

    But then I realized that that film class - still green in my memory - was from 1968. That was only about thirty years after the Fields films had been released but a full half century ago now.

    So maybe Fields is forgotten now. It's hard to keep up.

    I can hardly wait! Truth, Tiny Duck and I are going to see Panther this weekend (I fandango’d us some premo seats), then we going to meet Art Deco at Schnippersnew Thunder Bun Resto (don’t scold Art will be ordering from the lighter side menu) for an aprés le film ciné-feast and dialogue. And it’s my tab because friends are special.

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    What Tiny Duck is a real person? I assumed that he was a just an elaborate joke.

    When I was younger I used to see a lot of movies in black ghetto theaters. I saw the original Shaft in a ghetto theater and a couple of other "blaxplotation" movies. But I put in a Home Theater about fifteen years ago and I haven't been in any movie theater since then. I still go out to live opera of course but movie theaters are designed to keep the audience alone and separated. At the opera you dress up and have cocktails at the bar at intermission.

    I hope you have fun.
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  25. @Busby
    Fields hasn't aged well. Ironic. He was a very big star. So big he was able to negotiate creative control of his films. He was also very methodical in writing and developing his material. Plus he was very physically talented. Of course he was also a major league alcoholic.
    I've enjoyed him for years, though i do not share the popular opinion that The Bank Dick is the best film.
    On a related note...
    I worked with a youngish 30 something guy who had no familiarity with The Marx Brothers, the 3 Stooges and Abbot and Costello. The reason? "I don't watch black and white movies."

    I worked with a youngish 30 something guy who had no familiarity with The Marx Brothers, the 3 Stooges and Abbot and Costello. The reason? “I don’t watch black and white movies.”

    I’m a youngish 30-something guy and while I would never say something so philistine, it really is kind of hard to go from watching modern movies in 4K/widescreen/7.1 audio to something letterboxed and colorless with tinny, monaural audio. There’s just so much less audio-visual information to take in.

    It wouldn’t/didn’t keep me from watching Citizen Kane though, like it did the guy you worked with…

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    • Replies: @Alden
    I’m 75 and I don’t like black and White movies either. I wish they'd colorize all the movies they show on TV
    , @James Kabala
    I just happened upon the end of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington on TCM, which I have seen before but for whatever reason did not remember very well compared to some of the other Capra films (other than the well-known basic outline of the plot), and it hooked me immediately. I guess it depends how much you want a certain kind of audiovisual experience and how much you just want a good story (and good actors like Stewart, Arthur, Rains, and Mitchell).
    , @anonymous
    wwebd said:
    peterike - speaking as a human to a human - stop liking "dumb super hero movies".

    The people who make those movies - with an exception or two - absolutely do not like you.

    I say that, not knowing if you are an average commenter here (average cynical American) or one of the weird unthinkingly anti-Jewish or anti-Christian posters (if you are, repent, my young friend - start with a reading of one of the shorter gospels), or one of the otherwise weird posters who think that they have found sort of a home here because Steve Sailer is not easily fooled, or pretends not to be. Well we all need to independently decide not to be fooled. Poor Tiny Duck and mostly clueless Whiskey may, some day, decide not to he fooled --- today is not that day.

    Life is short and there are thousands, infinitely thousands of more interesting things than dumb super hero movies.

    Even Heath Ledger would agree, he really really tried hard to take a dumb super hero movie seriously. Look where it got him.

    The people who made the Poseidon Adventure tried to make a movie where people care about each other. No superheroes in that movie.


    larrylurker - life is short and not a lot of our contemporaries are talented, no matter how much information they put out, and not that many more of our parents' and grandparents' contemporaries are talented either. I don't appreciate the laziness of those people with the talent to colorize old black and white movies who refuse to do it, but there is a lot of comedy that is not otherwise available that you miss if you don't watch black and white movies. Don't miss out if you don;t have to.

    W.C. Fields was a genius. If he owed me money I would not expect him to pay it back, and I would not let him date my sister or my daughter, but he did know how to make people laugh. How many people have done as much?

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  26. @Pat Boyle
    I see that they have just this month extracted DNA from some Egyptian mummy teeth. Analysis of that DNA seems to clearly and unequivocally show that the ancient Egyptians were descended from Caucasians from the Levant not black negroes from sub-Saharan Africa.

    So one of the pillars of the Black Athena (We wuz Kangz) movement that underlies the idea of Wakanda and the movie "Black Panther" has been knocked out in unambiguous terms. Maybe all this silliness will now die down.

    Maybe all this silliness will now die down.
    Seems reasonable. ;)

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  27. @prosa123
    Mark Wahlberg should have been willing to act for less, after all he has his hamburger income to fall back upon.

    What does the one thing have to do with the other thing?
    It’s always envy time in America.

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    It must be tough on you first generation replicants, not understanding humor or sarcasm.
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  28. “On the whole, I’d rather be in Philadelphia.” I used that once in a lecture in a distinguished British university. A student in the audience gave the sort of smile that implied she knew the source. One out of seventy wasn’t bad. Maybe it was a favourite of her father’s. Or Grandpa’s.

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  29. @Almost Missouri

    the black ladies in the audience were particularly emphatic in their distaste for the wily snare laid for our hero’s affections by Jenny Lind: “Homewrecker!” one observed. “Ummphhhh!” another pointedly noted.
     
    I do sometimes miss the days of going to a packed blockbuster in my old majority black neighborhood cinema. Every night was audience participation night!

    I remember seeing one of the Bruce Lee films in some ghetto theater. Several of the black men in the audience demonstrated their talent with their nunchakus for the delectation of the others.

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    I trust you were suitably impressed.
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  30. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Pat Boyle
    I was just about to rise up in massive indignation to point out that - No, W.C. Fields was not forgotten but rather that he was the center of a film appreciation class I took at San Francisco State.

    But then I realized that that film class - still green in my memory - was from 1968. That was only about thirty years after the Fields films had been released but a full half century ago now.

    So maybe Fields is forgotten now. It's hard to keep up.

    As I recall, Fields had a field day in the late 60s , rising to the level of cult status. Indeed, his image can be seen on the cover of the Sgt. Pepper album. Not sure why, other than the implicit cynicism in many of his characters. I was never a big fan of his, preferring instead the inspired madness of the Marx Brothers and the rapid fire give-and-take of Abbott/Costello. Beginning in the 70s, Fields began to fade from view while Abbot/Costello wound up in the Baseball Hall of Fame (literally).

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    • Replies: @Busby
    I remember that. Two things stand out. First, there was a popular poster of Fields playing cards in that ridiculously large top hat. Second, there was a tell all book (or maybe an unauthorized biography) written by a former lover or wife, that was condemned by Fields' family. Quite the controversy. I also remember that Fields' foe Mae West had a brief revival I think because she was in Myra Breckenridge.
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  31. I like Hugh Jackman – I really do – but I must say he is not good singer simply because he has a bad voice. It is placed too far forward. It’s brassy and harsh. You can get all the words but you lose the line. He’s sort of a male Ethel Merman.

    I’m tempted to attribute his vocal defects to being Australian but the most famous Australian singer of our era was Joan Sutherland – who had exactly the opposite problem.

    In the heyday of movie musicals everyone sang. The singers of course sang but so did the dancers. Astaire and Kelly both had high thin even whispery voices. but they succeeded because they were musical and their voices (what little there was of them) were pleasant. Those hired for their vocal chops like Howard Keel and Gordon MacRae and of course Marion Lanza – couldn’t dance a step. Of the Seven Brothers Keel stood in the corner while everyone else was jumping and swirling. MacCrae in his best role (Oklahoma) had to be replaced by a stand-in to do the dance numbers as a dream sequence. Lanza barely moved at all.

    So Jackman is a real song and dance guy – not as supernal as Donald O’Connor but good enough. I just wish he could sing better.

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    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    Astaire and Kelly succeeded because they could ACT a song. They sang in character, just as they danced in character, though their singing technique wasn't even close to their dancing technique.

    Technically, Sarah Brightman has an amazing range, but she was so boring in Phantom rehearsals that the cast and crew secretly referred to her as "Sarah the Stick." Bernadette Peters, on the other hand, has a voice that cracks and pops all over the place, but her acting of a song is without peer.
    , @Father O'Hara
    I just enjoyed Russ Tamblyn,one of my all time favorites. All time!!
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  32. “There are two supporting roles for fat kids in the future school production as the Bearded Lady and the World’s Fattest Man.”

    That would NOT be politically correct today. You’d have to put normal kids in some sort of fat suit.

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    • Replies: @Alfa158
    Wouldn't that be cultural appropriation?
    Or something.
    , @syonredux

    That would NOT be politically correct today. You’d have to put normal kids in some sort of fat suit.
     
    Get WOKE, bigot. Putting a thin person in a fat suit is akin to blackface.
    , @anonymous

    “There are two supporting roles for fat kids in the future school production as the Bearded Lady and the World’s Fattest Man.”
     
    JPod & Art Deco’s kids?
    (The deep fried apple thingy doesn’t fall far from the tree.)
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  33. Steve,

    Beginning at the 5:01 mark is the UCLA Marching Band performing “Another Day of Sun” in the Rose Bowl last November.

    Link it to your article – it is a great version, and it will become a standard for marching bands.

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    What ever happened to "Band master strike up the band"?
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  34. Maybe Steve likes W.C. Fields because of the extended comical round of golf in The Big Broadcast of 1938 which ended with the character pulling a reverse Harrison Ford and flying off the course in his personal gyro-copter. I know next to nothing about golf, so I don’t know which L.A. golf course it was, but I imagine Steve enjoyed the chance to study an example of early 20th century Southern California golf course architecture.

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    Fields' golf routing shows up in many of his movies: off the top of my head "The Man on the Flying Trapeze" , the Golf Specialist, and there's a short golf bit in "The Dentist" I still find Fields very funny- but then , I'm 63 years old, too.

    One of my favorite stories about Fields (possibly apocryphal) was that he used to have a thermos labeled "pineapple juice" on the set. One day someone replaced the contents with ...wait for it,,, pineapple juice. Field took a gulp, spit it out and gasped, "who put pineapple juice in my pineapple juice?"
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  35. @prosa123
    "There are two supporting roles for fat kids in the future school production as the Bearded Lady and the World’s Fattest Man."

    That would NOT be politically correct today. You'd have to put normal kids in some sort of fat suit.

    Wouldn’t that be cultural appropriation?
    Or something.

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  36. @Pat Boyle
    I see that they have just this month extracted DNA from some Egyptian mummy teeth. Analysis of that DNA seems to clearly and unequivocally show that the ancient Egyptians were descended from Caucasians from the Levant not black negroes from sub-Saharan Africa.

    So one of the pillars of the Black Athena (We wuz Kangz) movement that underlies the idea of Wakanda and the movie "Black Panther" has been knocked out in unambiguous terms. Maybe all this silliness will now die down.

    I see opinion, but no links…

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    I am the eggman, they are the eggmen,
    I am the sea lion! goo goo ga-joo!
    , @anonymous
    No g**gle in Nigeria? What kind of shithole is it?
    , @anon
    Daddy, what’s a search engine?
    , @Anonymous
    Typing « dna mummy » and hitting search is so hard!
    , @Pat Boyle
    I see that my colleagues have emerged to speak for me.
    , @Nigerian Nationalist
    Ohh come on, it's simple internet etiquette to link claims, saying "Google it" is an absurd dodge.

    Anyways I did--now the next person won't go through the trouble.
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  37. Yo Steve, I’m bored, but you might find this interesting: https://www.lrb.co.uk/v40/n04/pankaj-mishra/why-do-white-people-like-what-i-write

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    i got about halfway through that effluvium before asking myself: why do i care what someone called pankaj mishra has to say about the american experience?

    for all his faults, at least poor ta-nehisi has an anglo-american (can i say that?) last name...
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  38. In the indie movie that is made about the casting of the high school musical, J.T. Simmons will play the sane, beset upon principal who is constantly called upon to settle these absurd petty disputes, and Glenn Close his surprisingly (of course secretly) based assistant principal.

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  39. One way to remember the difference between the two is that Barnum is way older – born in 1810, and Fields in 1880.

    There is a P.T. Barnum museum in Bridgeport, CT, but I never stopped in.

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    "There is a P.T. Barnum museum in Bridgeport, CT, but I never stopped in."

    When I was a child I went there a couple of times with my grandfather, who lived in the next town over. While I don't remember many of the exhibits I do recall that it was a great deal of fun. Admission has always been free.
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  40. @Pat Boyle
    I see that they have just this month extracted DNA from some Egyptian mummy teeth. Analysis of that DNA seems to clearly and unequivocally show that the ancient Egyptians were descended from Caucasians from the Levant not black negroes from sub-Saharan Africa.

    So one of the pillars of the Black Athena (We wuz Kangz) movement that underlies the idea of Wakanda and the movie "Black Panther" has been knocked out in unambiguous terms. Maybe all this silliness will now die down.

    When did facts ever interfere with ideology?

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  41. @Almost Missouri

    the black ladies in the audience were particularly emphatic in their distaste for the wily snare laid for our hero’s affections by Jenny Lind: “Homewrecker!” one observed. “Ummphhhh!” another pointedly noted.
     
    I do sometimes miss the days of going to a packed blockbuster in my old majority black neighborhood cinema. Every night was audience participation night!

    Almost: As a kid in the ’70s some friends and I played hooky from our suburban school and went into the city to catch the opening day matinee of “Excalibur,” John Boorman’s lavish take on King Arthur. Fantasy films were rare back then and could elicit genuine surprise; the audience demographic was as you would expect, and was a new experience for all of us.

    At one point in the film (IIRC), a young and extremely nubile Helen Mirren confronted Nicole Williamson’s Merlin with a boa constrictor wrapped around her body. “Audience participation” (as you call it) reached a crescendo. “Whoa! Thazza big-a$$ snake!” still gets a big laugh whenever I get together with my old buddies.

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    Many years ago, while attending a small summer camp in the Adirondacks (God, I loved that place), one of the junior counselors told us a story centering upon his having seen the James Bond flick, Goldfinger, in one of those movie theaters in which audience participation was the norm. At one spot in the movie, James Bond encounters Goldfinger's female head pilot, and after a brief physical tussle during which James gets the better of her, he asks her to tell him her name, at which time she somewhat haughtily responds that her name is Pussy Galore. A quick-witted audience member, without missing a beat, shouted out, "Prove it". An anecdote worthy of the recounting.
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  42. @Pat Boyle
    I like Hugh Jackman - I really do - but I must say he is not good singer simply because he has a bad voice. It is placed too far forward. It's brassy and harsh. You can get all the words but you lose the line. He's sort of a male Ethel Merman.

    I'm tempted to attribute his vocal defects to being Australian but the most famous Australian singer of our era was Joan Sutherland - who had exactly the opposite problem.

    In the heyday of movie musicals everyone sang. The singers of course sang but so did the dancers. Astaire and Kelly both had high thin even whispery voices. but they succeeded because they were musical and their voices (what little there was of them) were pleasant. Those hired for their vocal chops like Howard Keel and Gordon MacRae and of course Marion Lanza - couldn't dance a step. Of the Seven Brothers Keel stood in the corner while everyone else was jumping and swirling. MacCrae in his best role (Oklahoma) had to be replaced by a stand-in to do the dance numbers as a dream sequence. Lanza barely moved at all.

    So Jackman is a real song and dance guy - not as supernal as Donald O'Connor but good enough. I just wish he could sing better.

    Astaire and Kelly succeeded because they could ACT a song. They sang in character, just as they danced in character, though their singing technique wasn’t even close to their dancing technique.

    Technically, Sarah Brightman has an amazing range, but she was so boring in Phantom rehearsals that the cast and crew secretly referred to her as “Sarah the Stick.” Bernadette Peters, on the other hand, has a voice that cracks and pops all over the place, but her acting of a song is without peer.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    Astaire and Kelly succeeded because they could ACT a song. They sang in character, just as they danced in character, though their singing technique wasn’t even close to their dancing technique.
     
    Opera requires singers who can act; musicals require actors who can sing.
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  43. @slumber_j
    Entirely off-topic: evidently and unsurprisingly, Moynihan's Law of Proximity to the Canadian Border applies to self-perceived sexiness as well:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/image14.png?itok=qVoG1fiE

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-15/united-states-sex-survey-17000-women

    Yeah California! Of all the obese waddling Mexican women, ours are the sexiest. No no, that’s not fair: a lot of the white women are tubs too.

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    SoCal does have a lot of hot people who think they're going to be stars. Be interesting to find a way to measure if that's tapering off now.
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  44. @prosa123
    "There are two supporting roles for fat kids in the future school production as the Bearded Lady and the World’s Fattest Man."

    That would NOT be politically correct today. You'd have to put normal kids in some sort of fat suit.

    That would NOT be politically correct today. You’d have to put normal kids in some sort of fat suit.

    Get WOKE, bigot. Putting a thin person in a fat suit is akin to blackface.

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    • Replies: @Alden
    it’s lipoappropiation.
    , @Half Canadian
    The only reasonable thing to do is to put a fat person in a fat suit.
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  45. @Rosamond Vincy
    Astaire and Kelly succeeded because they could ACT a song. They sang in character, just as they danced in character, though their singing technique wasn't even close to their dancing technique.

    Technically, Sarah Brightman has an amazing range, but she was so boring in Phantom rehearsals that the cast and crew secretly referred to her as "Sarah the Stick." Bernadette Peters, on the other hand, has a voice that cracks and pops all over the place, but her acting of a song is without peer.

    Astaire and Kelly succeeded because they could ACT a song. They sang in character, just as they danced in character, though their singing technique wasn’t even close to their dancing technique.

    Opera requires singers who can act; musicals require actors who can sing.

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    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Astaire and Kelly succeeded because they could ACT a song. They sang in character, just as they danced in character, though their singing technique wasn’t even close to their dancing technique.
     
    Astaire was not a bad singer. The late career album Fred Astaire sings, recorded with the Oscar Peterson trio is a nice listen.

    I LIKE Kelly's singing, especially in wet weather. I think perhaps his singing grows on you, but he was perhaps more of a live stage vocal performer than a recording artist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCSUsF_YEe0

    They do not make 'em like that any more.
    , @Kylie
    "Opera requires singers who can act; musicals require actors who can sing."

    I read Jussi Bjorling was once told he wasn't much of an actor, to which he responded, "But I have my voice!"
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  46. I can report that this movie is huge with the teen set in my circles. The kids are going multiple times and raving about it. My daughter is already playing the songs on the piano.

    Of course, musical theater is also huge with the teen set right now. In the homeschooling world, participation in dancing, choir, theater, music or some subset of such is closing in on 100%.

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  47. Saw Black Panther

    Just unreal

    Unlike most superheroes, Black Panther resonates with wider political and cultural hues. He is a genius level billionaire, expert at hand-to-hand combat and has vowed to keep his nation Wakanda safe and to fight crime. Guess, which other superhero has such similarities — none other than Batman. Unlike Batman, whose front is that of a rich, spoilt playboy, Black Panther is a responsible leader of his men.

    The comic gave hope to a sort of an African utopia — a country which was never colonised and has superior technology to everyone else and where the citizens live in close proximity with nature. The film stays faithful to that myth, building on to it and asking some hard-hitting, real world questions related to race and identity.

    The villain Killmonger is a complex character. He wants to end oppression to Black people for ever.

    The film is a technical marvel. The score, at once modern but having its core in African rhythms, adds to its charms.

    A film cast made almost entirely of black actors and directed by a black man, carrying a powerful political message and being hugely entertaining to boot — Marvel has clicked all the right boxes and says “Not today” to Drumpf’s false traitorous America. Who would have thought superhero film could fuel ideologies and challenge set norms? Wonder Woman did it for women and now Black Panther is doing it again for People of Color — times surely are changing indeed…

    As plus all these white tears are delicious!

    What a body on Chadwick Boseman! No wonder white girls are increasingly giving their love to Men of Color! Michael B. Jordan is quite the specimen as well.

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    Agreed, it is a masterpiece. (I was surprised to see  “based on an idea by Leni Riefenstahl” in the end credits. )
    , @Gary in Gramercy
    So, in short: two snaps, right? (All apologies to Blaine and Antoine...)
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    TD, your shtick is wearing thin. Time for you to create a new character. You're talented; you can do it. I believe in you.
    , @36 ulster
    Whoa! It's been a while since you've graced Steve's blog with your wit and wisdom. I no doubt speak for all of us in the Sailerkommentariat in wishing for more frequent exercises in self-parody from you, Tiny D*ck!
    , @James Kabala
    This almost made me wonder "Is this guy for real after all?" until the last sentence, which was too clearly red meat to the Whiskey types. Even the most deadpan parodists usually give themselves away eventually. Grade of B+.
    , @Alden
    I’m beginning to think your posts are satire TD
    , @Clyde
    Most of your post is copy and paste pastiche from a few sources. What it looks like to me, and this is not the first time you have lifted other people's words. Like MLK.
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  48. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Twenty million illegals here and it’s big news that 200 are arrested (not deported).

    This is proof of the STANDDOWN: “one of the biggest enforcement actions in years against businesses in LA”

    Federal deportation officers staged one of the biggest enforcement actions in years against businesses in Los Angeles this week, arresting 212 people and serving audit notices to 122 businesses who will have to prove they aren’t hiring illegal immigrants.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/16/ice-arrests-212-illegals-la-sweep/

    This is a PR stunt…

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    So what is the right costume to spread hysteria? After all government agents can't be everywhere.

    I was thinking of wearing a pair of reflective sunglasses, dark blue baseball cap and a dark blue windbreaker with "ICE" printed on the back when I visit Jose's Taqueria at lunch hour. Maybe have a pair of costume handcuffs in a little leather holster on my belt.
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  49. I saw this movie with my kids at New Year. It was not bad, or at least less bad than most movies these days and at least the political correctness was only a minor theme and there was no buggery.

    Not much historical accuracy, and no great songs, but at least it was mildly entertaining, inoffensive and had some good dance numbers which the kids enjoyed.

    An explanation for circuses operating in a tented Big Top was offered, as apparently when Barnum’s building burned down, a big tent near the docks was an economical alternative.

    Hugh Jackman was sporting some strange-looking teeth. Zac Efron has grown rather fat. The women were nondescript.

    Sadly, musical movies and probably movies in general are a dying entertainment form that relies more and more on gimmicks. Frozen (2013) was probably the last really decent family entertainment movie.

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    Alternatively, movie musicals might make a comeback because Broadway musicals are making a lot of profit these days. But famous musicals tend to be too sophisticated for the core audience, which is families with tween-age daughters, so this movie's strategy of becoming a stage hit by being a movie first might prove really smart.
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  50. @Alfa158
    Maybe Steve likes W.C. Fields because of the extended comical round of golf in The Big Broadcast of 1938 which ended with the character pulling a reverse Harrison Ford and flying off the course in his personal gyro-copter. I know next to nothing about golf, so I don't know which L.A. golf course it was, but I imagine Steve enjoyed the chance to study an example of early 20th century Southern California golf course architecture.

    Fields’ golf routing shows up in many of his movies: off the top of my head “The Man on the Flying Trapeze” , the Golf Specialist, and there’s a short golf bit in “The Dentist” I still find Fields very funny- but then , I’m 63 years old, too.

    One of my favorite stories about Fields (possibly apocryphal) was that he used to have a thermos labeled “pineapple juice” on the set. One day someone replaced the contents with …wait for it,,, pineapple juice. Field took a gulp, spit it out and gasped, “who put pineapple juice in my pineapple juice?”

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    I once read that after he started moving up in the world, Fields would open a bank account in whichever city he was working and deposit some money. Growing up in poverty, he remained terrified of being stranded in another town and not having any cash. At his death nobody had any idea how many accounts there were or where.
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  51. @syonredux

    Astaire and Kelly succeeded because they could ACT a song. They sang in character, just as they danced in character, though their singing technique wasn’t even close to their dancing technique.
     
    Opera requires singers who can act; musicals require actors who can sing.

    Astaire and Kelly succeeded because they could ACT a song. They sang in character, just as they danced in character, though their singing technique wasn’t even close to their dancing technique.

    Astaire was not a bad singer. The late career album Fred Astaire sings, recorded with the Oscar Peterson trio is a nice listen.

    I LIKE Kelly’s singing, especially in wet weather. I think perhaps his singing grows on you, but he was perhaps more of a live stage vocal performer than a recording artist.

    They do not make ‘em like that any more.

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    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    Can't we stay young forever?
    , @Pat Boyle
    That's a cute aphorism. I think I'll use it.
    , @Pat Boyle
    Well of course I like Astaire's singing. I'm a retired semi-pro opera singer. I like Stracciari and Bjorling but whose heart is so dead that that they don't respond to Astaire just because he doesn't have a ringing full throated high notes?
    , @Reg Cæsar
    Astaire understood a song from the inside out, as he wrote quite a few himself, though the only one to become a standard was "I'm Building Up to an Awful Letdown", and his role in that is disputed. Still, he knew how to get the best out of other songwriters.
    , @Steve Sailer
    I have a set of tapes of classic American songs of 1920-1960. They use a lot of Fred Astaire recordings because you can get them cheap compared to Sinatra recordings. While Astaire wasn't as good of a singer as Sinatra, he had really good rhythm. Astaire was about as good of a singer as Sinatra was a dancer in the 1940s ("On the Town"), which is quite good. An awful lot of the performing arts (singing, dancing, comedy) is having a sense of rhythm, which both Astaire and Sinatra had.
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  52. @Pat Boyle
    I see that they have just this month extracted DNA from some Egyptian mummy teeth. Analysis of that DNA seems to clearly and unequivocally show that the ancient Egyptians were descended from Caucasians from the Levant not black negroes from sub-Saharan Africa.

    So one of the pillars of the Black Athena (We wuz Kangz) movement that underlies the idea of Wakanda and the movie "Black Panther" has been knocked out in unambiguous terms. Maybe all this silliness will now die down.

    There might be other evidence that the “We’re all out of Africa” thingy might be a myth, though it is still a lot of conjecture at this point:

    https://www.sciencealert.com/ancient-teeth-rewrite-human-history-9-7-million-year-old-mystery

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    I think maybe the authors of this piece don't understand that in the conventional narrative of human evolution that our progenitors are thought to have left Africa twice. Once about a million years ago and once about 100,00 years ago. The first time led to the Hidelbergs the Neanderthals and the Denisovans. The second more recent event led to the Modern Europeans and East Asians.

    This may very well be wrong but this article is too confused to consider very important - as yet. Wait a few years and more will be known.
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  53. I saw Love Actually in one of those $3 theatres shortly after its release in the US, and I thought it was cute, but the crowd was sort of mixed in its reaction, which is why it was in a $3 theatre so soon after its release. It has gone on to gross 5x its production costs. Seems movies like these have legs. Wonder if that will be the case with BP.

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    Seems movies like these have legs. Wonder if that will be the case with BP.
     
    Are Blu-Rays stolen from Walmart counted in the gross?
    , @whorefinder
    Some movies are best remembered for the memory they invoked rather than the goodness of the film. Love Actually was a Christmas romcom a lot of young first dates went on, and I'll bet The Greatest Showman was, too.

    Also, we seem to be going through a period of dearth of romcoms, similar to the one that preceded Harry Met Sally, so the few that do squeeze through are more watched than they would have been during Julia Roberts's heyday.

    There's a market need for good cute-non-sexual romantic comedies that needs meeting.

    It's similar to how Sam Raimi's Spiderman was a massive hit partly because there was such a strong desire amongst white males for a good comic book movies; I recall college guys and older getting drunk and going in groups in NYC. Nowadays that wouldn't happen, as the market is saturated, hence the weird "we hate whitey!" marketing of the sub-par We Wuz Panthers, trying to find a niche to make a profit.
    , @Tyrion 2
    Some 8/10 American chick loved me for that film. I've not seen it but 10/10 for giving her that fantasy and my night.
    , @BenKenobi
    Sorry to be so crude guys, but Love Actually was the gayest fuckin' shit ever.

    Note that the movie was criticized for a lack of gays and still pulled this off.
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  54. I look forward to your review of Black Panther. For now we must content ourselves with the user reviews of IMDB, which are not great.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1825683/reviews?ref_=tt_ql_3

    ” Disappointing, great potential and I really, really wanted to like it but… I didn’t.”

    “TL;DR – Great visuals, week story, predictable plot, not very exiting villain.” [cut & pasted w/misspellings)

    “If I were able to post a one or two word review, it would either be agenda or uncanny valley. Everything I feared this film would do, it did. Indeed in a couple of places it even referred to the (*spoilers*?) the slave trade! Seriously? In the 21st century you are going to refer at least twice in the same film to the slave trade – which BTW if you follow the film’s premise would NOT have affected Wakanda as they were cut off from the rest of the world!”

    “The main character of the film is T’Chala – a character so depressingly dour and serious, he could be a candidate for depression”

    “The story is like any other superhero film story. The Wakanda aspect of the film is great. The technology used in the film is good. But there are a lot of clichés that kinda ruin the film. The acting is okay. Chadwick Boseman performs the best. Lupita Nyong’o, Martin Freeman, Danai Gurira, and Forest Whitaker perform below standard. Michael B. Jordan plays a generic and clichéd villain. He performs the worst.”

    And so on. Read the whole thing.

    I haven’t seen it but I doubt it’s a bad movie. The technology alone ensures that it will be a professional, slick product. People who like that sort of thing will find that’s the sort of thing they like. Good for them.

    The real deal is the bottom line. They cannot hype their way to huge box office. The bar is simply too high. China proved with the Last Jedi that you can’t force Chinese audiences to see social justice pablum.

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    "Michael B. Jordan plays a generic and clichéd villain. He performs the worst.”

    Michael B. Jordan is not used to playing a villain, before The Black Panther he always played The Magic Negro with zero Human flaws who are always pure and good. He is the male version of Octavia Spencer when it comes to acting.

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  55. @Pat Boyle
    I see that they have just this month extracted DNA from some Egyptian mummy teeth. Analysis of that DNA seems to clearly and unequivocally show that the ancient Egyptians were descended from Caucasians from the Levant not black negroes from sub-Saharan Africa.

    So one of the pillars of the Black Athena (We wuz Kangz) movement that underlies the idea of Wakanda and the movie "Black Panther" has been knocked out in unambiguous terms. Maybe all this silliness will now die down.

    “Maybe all this silliness will now die down.”

    You’re quite the optimist my friend

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    Well I can hope.
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  56. @slumber_j
    Entirely off-topic: evidently and unsurprisingly, Moynihan's Law of Proximity to the Canadian Border applies to self-perceived sexiness as well:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/image14.png?itok=qVoG1fiE

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-15/united-states-sex-survey-17000-women

    Florida and Alaska are both peni(n)s(ular), so probably that has a lot to do how the local women feel, but you have to feel sorry for the men in landlocked straight-edged South Dakota.

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    Don't forget gender ratios. As of 2010 census, Alaska has 106 males for every 100 females, compared to 96 males for every 100 females nationwide.

    That has obvious implications for women's perception of their own attractiveness.
    , @snorlax
    Alaska's more scrotum-shaped.
    , @J.Ross
    Florida, Southern California, all college towns (including state ones) and all rich communities ought to spike on any serious map of this because they draw in young good-looking people.
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  57. @Busby
    Fields hasn't aged well. Ironic. He was a very big star. So big he was able to negotiate creative control of his films. He was also very methodical in writing and developing his material. Plus he was very physically talented. Of course he was also a major league alcoholic.
    I've enjoyed him for years, though i do not share the popular opinion that The Bank Dick is the best film.
    On a related note...
    I worked with a youngish 30 something guy who had no familiarity with The Marx Brothers, the 3 Stooges and Abbot and Costello. The reason? "I don't watch black and white movies."

    A better reason: they’re not funny

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  58. @prosa123
    "There are two supporting roles for fat kids in the future school production as the Bearded Lady and the World’s Fattest Man."

    That would NOT be politically correct today. You'd have to put normal kids in some sort of fat suit.

    “There are two supporting roles for fat kids in the future school production as the Bearded Lady and the World’s Fattest Man.”

    JPod & Art Deco’s kids?
    (The deep fried apple thingy doesn’t fall far from the tree.)

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  59. @The Alarmist
    I saw Love Actually in one of those $3 theatres shortly after its release in the US, and I thought it was cute, but the crowd was sort of mixed in its reaction, which is why it was in a $3 theatre so soon after its release. It has gone on to gross 5x its production costs. Seems movies like these have legs. Wonder if that will be the case with BP.

    Seems movies like these have legs. Wonder if that will be the case with BP.

    Are Blu-Rays stolen from Walmart counted in the gross?

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    They're already in the distribution chain, so most likely 'yes.'
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  60. @Jonathan Mason
    Florida and Alaska are both peni(n)s(ular), so probably that has a lot to do how the local women feel, but you have to feel sorry for the men in landlocked straight-edged South Dakota.

    Don’t forget gender ratios. As of 2010 census, Alaska has 106 males for every 100 females, compared to 96 males for every 100 females nationwide.

    That has obvious implications for women’s perception of their own attractiveness.

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  61. Steve, did you ever see “Wonder Woman”? Last I could tell searching the blog was that you reported in June you hadn’t seen it.

    I gave it a go the other day, since it’s on HBO at the moment, and I couldn’t last 20 minutes. It was excruciatingly bad. And I like dumb super hero movies.

    One of the worst parts was the accents. Apparently (accd to someone on IMDB so who knows), Gail Godot couldn’t manage an American accent. So they have all the other Amazon women speaking in phonied up Israeli accents. It’s really quite bizarre and off-putting. They all live on a secret island Zeus created for them, yet somehow they speak English with Israeli accents! And they are racially mixed as well. Uh huh.

    Then there was a pretty uninteresting fight on the beach between Amazons with swords and arrows vs. a bunch of Germans with guns. The Germans kill a lot of them before they are beaten.

    Then it got into the usual “Germans are evil vicious villains who want to destroy the world” stuff and that was enough for me. The acting was universally terrible.

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    I watched Dunkirk on DVD last night (it was pretty good) and one of the trailers (headers?) was for Wonder Woman. It convinced me that I did not want to see the actual movie; even the highlights looked dumb.
    , @anonymous

    Then it got into the usual “Germans are evil vicious villains who want to destroy the world” stuff a
     
    Angie Merkel is playing to type?
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  62. @Jonathan Mason
    Florida and Alaska are both peni(n)s(ular), so probably that has a lot to do how the local women feel, but you have to feel sorry for the men in landlocked straight-edged South Dakota.

    Alaska’s more scrotum-shaped.

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    Let's not even get into what Manhattan looks like. I live here and try to ignore it, but the Subway map doesn't lie.
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  63. @Pat Boyle
    I like Hugh Jackman - I really do - but I must say he is not good singer simply because he has a bad voice. It is placed too far forward. It's brassy and harsh. You can get all the words but you lose the line. He's sort of a male Ethel Merman.

    I'm tempted to attribute his vocal defects to being Australian but the most famous Australian singer of our era was Joan Sutherland - who had exactly the opposite problem.

    In the heyday of movie musicals everyone sang. The singers of course sang but so did the dancers. Astaire and Kelly both had high thin even whispery voices. but they succeeded because they were musical and their voices (what little there was of them) were pleasant. Those hired for their vocal chops like Howard Keel and Gordon MacRae and of course Marion Lanza - couldn't dance a step. Of the Seven Brothers Keel stood in the corner while everyone else was jumping and swirling. MacCrae in his best role (Oklahoma) had to be replaced by a stand-in to do the dance numbers as a dream sequence. Lanza barely moved at all.

    So Jackman is a real song and dance guy - not as supernal as Donald O'Connor but good enough. I just wish he could sing better.

    I just enjoyed Russ Tamblyn,one of my all time favorites. All time!!

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    My dancer friends in college were blown away by Tamblyn but never considered him a dancer - more of an acrobat.
    , @Cortes
    Especially as Dr Jacoby in Twin Peaks!
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  64. @Jonathan Mason

    Astaire and Kelly succeeded because they could ACT a song. They sang in character, just as they danced in character, though their singing technique wasn’t even close to their dancing technique.
     
    Astaire was not a bad singer. The late career album Fred Astaire sings, recorded with the Oscar Peterson trio is a nice listen.

    I LIKE Kelly's singing, especially in wet weather. I think perhaps his singing grows on you, but he was perhaps more of a live stage vocal performer than a recording artist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCSUsF_YEe0

    They do not make 'em like that any more.

    Can’t we stay young forever?

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  65. @Busby
    Fields hasn't aged well. Ironic. He was a very big star. So big he was able to negotiate creative control of his films. He was also very methodical in writing and developing his material. Plus he was very physically talented. Of course he was also a major league alcoholic.
    I've enjoyed him for years, though i do not share the popular opinion that The Bank Dick is the best film.
    On a related note...
    I worked with a youngish 30 something guy who had no familiarity with The Marx Brothers, the 3 Stooges and Abbot and Costello. The reason? "I don't watch black and white movies."

    a youngish 30 something guy who had no familiarity with The Marx Brothers, the 3 Stooges and Abbot and Costello

    If you’ve not seen the Susquehanna Hat sketch, something is missing from your life (or you aren’t still a big kid).

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  66. @BB753
    Critics (55%) and audience (89%) disagree at Rotten Tomatoes for this film. While the Black Panther movie gets a measly 77% audience score.

    I predict that We Wuz Panthers audience score will plummet just like Star Wars: The Last White guy, right down to just-sub-mediocre.

    There’s a reason they released it in February, blocked people from posting bad critical reviews, and heavily promoted it to blacks as opposed to everyone: it’s a sub-par Marvel movie they thought would flop, so turned it into a race-war.

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    People click on race war.
    , @BB753
    The audience score is now down at 75%!
    , @CJ
    There’s a reason they released it in February, blocked people from posting bad critical reviews, and heavily promoted it to blacks as opposed to everyone: it’s a sub-par Marvel movie they thought would flop, so turned it into a race-war.

    My Agree button isn't operational, but you're exactly right. They're making lemonade out of a lemon.

    , @J.Ross
    The scary thing though is that when a black supremacist historical rewrite is released and flips, it does not die. It will live forever on cable and in ghetto public school classrooms where teachers pacify "good" classes with "movie day." And that audience will believe all of it.
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  67. @Busby
    Fields hasn't aged well. Ironic. He was a very big star. So big he was able to negotiate creative control of his films. He was also very methodical in writing and developing his material. Plus he was very physically talented. Of course he was also a major league alcoholic.
    I've enjoyed him for years, though i do not share the popular opinion that The Bank Dick is the best film.
    On a related note...
    I worked with a youngish 30 something guy who had no familiarity with The Marx Brothers, the 3 Stooges and Abbot and Costello. The reason? "I don't watch black and white movies."

    W.C. Fields’s comedy also would be un-p.c. today: he was often bashing women and small children with his insults. Feminists would be up in arms at the former, and the “no bullying” idiots would be at the latter.

    Also, he wasn’t of the same tribe as the (((Marx Brothers))), whose later tribe members have kept them remembered despite un-p.c. overtones.

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  68. @snorlax
    Alaska's more scrotum-shaped.

    Let’s not even get into what Manhattan looks like. I live here and try to ignore it, but the Subway map doesn’t lie.

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  69. @Achmed E. Newman

    We went to see Black Panther, ...
     
    I really don't get this, Steve. I've seen, what?, 10 posts or so on this Wakanda business. I don't particularly care about the movie but do understand the effects of the bullshit pseudo-history on people of the darker persuasion. That's what you have been writing about.

    Why support this crap, then? Hell, I know it's good for you, or anyone, to get off the internet for a while. You could have gone to play golf or ogle a new golf course; I wouldn't have written anything bad (cause I wouldn't have read it), and more power to you. But giving $10 - $20 to the people that you rail against doesn't make a damn bit of sense to me.

    You were a marketing guy, right? It's all about the money. They don't care what Steve Sailer writes about them, but they would care if 1,000,000 Sailers and Sailer-reading potential movie-goers don't show up.


    ... but that was sold out.
     
    You inadvertently did the right thing then, or are you going again next week?

    7 Achmed E Newman > You inadvertently did the right thing then, or are you going again next week?

    The good news is that Steve Sailer is the best writer that the Hurt-Feelings-About-Jews Enterprise has.

    the bad news is that Steve Sailer is the best writer that the Hurt-Feelings-About-Jews Enterprise has

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  70. @ganderson
    Fields' golf routing shows up in many of his movies: off the top of my head "The Man on the Flying Trapeze" , the Golf Specialist, and there's a short golf bit in "The Dentist" I still find Fields very funny- but then , I'm 63 years old, too.

    One of my favorite stories about Fields (possibly apocryphal) was that he used to have a thermos labeled "pineapple juice" on the set. One day someone replaced the contents with ...wait for it,,, pineapple juice. Field took a gulp, spit it out and gasped, "who put pineapple juice in my pineapple juice?"

    I once read that after he started moving up in the world, Fields would open a bank account in whichever city he was working and deposit some money. Growing up in poverty, he remained terrified of being stranded in another town and not having any cash. At his death nobody had any idea how many accounts there were or where.

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    Sounds like James Brown's financial management strategy: hide money all over the place. His heirs are still battling about a dozen years after his death.
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  71. @BB753
    Critics (55%) and audience (89%) disagree at Rotten Tomatoes for this film. While the Black Panther movie gets a measly 77% audience score.

    MUSCOVY STRIKES AGAIN!

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  72. @The Alarmist
    I saw Love Actually in one of those $3 theatres shortly after its release in the US, and I thought it was cute, but the crowd was sort of mixed in its reaction, which is why it was in a $3 theatre so soon after its release. It has gone on to gross 5x its production costs. Seems movies like these have legs. Wonder if that will be the case with BP.

    Some movies are best remembered for the memory they invoked rather than the goodness of the film. Love Actually was a Christmas romcom a lot of young first dates went on, and I’ll bet The Greatest Showman was, too.

    Also, we seem to be going through a period of dearth of romcoms, similar to the one that preceded Harry Met Sally, so the few that do squeeze through are more watched than they would have been during Julia Roberts’s heyday.

    There’s a market need for good cute-non-sexual romantic comedies that needs meeting.

    It’s similar to how Sam Raimi’s Spiderman was a massive hit partly because there was such a strong desire amongst white males for a good comic book movies; I recall college guys and older getting drunk and going in groups in NYC. Nowadays that wouldn’t happen, as the market is saturated, hence the weird “we hate whitey!” marketing of the sub-par We Wuz Panthers, trying to find a niche to make a profit.

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  73. @slumber_j
    Entirely off-topic: evidently and unsurprisingly, Moynihan's Law of Proximity to the Canadian Border applies to self-perceived sexiness as well:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/image14.png?itok=qVoG1fiE

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-15/united-states-sex-survey-17000-women

    >The Carolinas have the same range as Michigan
    Yeah, no. Throw that away. Going from Michigan to the Carolinas to do construction you are battered with the fact that everyone in Michigan is fat — even the thin Michiganders are fat — and there are enough Carolinians who can pull off denim cutoffs that it is a sort of uniform. (By “pull off” is meant “wear without looking like they are effortfully denying a mistake.”) There’s probably fat people there but they’re not omnipresent.

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  74. @Jonathan Mason
    Florida and Alaska are both peni(n)s(ular), so probably that has a lot to do how the local women feel, but you have to feel sorry for the men in landlocked straight-edged South Dakota.

    Florida, Southern California, all college towns (including state ones) and all rich communities ought to spike on any serious map of this because they draw in young good-looking people.

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  75. @Nigerian Nationalist
    I see opinion, but no links...

    I am the eggman, they are the eggmen,
    I am the sea lion! goo goo ga-joo!

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  76. @Nigerian Nationalist
    I see opinion, but no links...

    No g**gle in Nigeria? What kind of shithole is it?

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    Out of curiosity, do you rely on Trump to tell you what to eat for breakfast too?

    It's oddly Beta that you seem incapable of inventing insults of your own.
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  77. @Nigerian Nationalist
    I see opinion, but no links...

    Daddy, what’s a search engine?

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  78. @Nigerian Nationalist
    I see opinion, but no links...

    Typing « dna mummy » and hitting search is so hard!

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  79. (Is W.C. Fields the most forgotten of the comedy giants?)

    Nah, that falls to Harold Lloyd, the great silent film comedian, who was one of the big three of silent comedy with Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton (four if you count Fatty Arbuckle).

    Lloyd’s major sin is that he was into segregation, and lived in a Hollywood community that had covenants that blocked Jews and blacks from moving in. Remember, angering (((tribesmen))) will get you either Hitlered or unpersoned. Barring Jews from anything in Hollywood is a quick way to anger them over the top, as the countless stories about Jews and WASP country clubs show.

    Lloyd also kept his own careful copyrights on all his works, but released them infrequently afterwards, so later generations didn’t know him as well. Then Time-Life bought them and badly edited them, and Time-Life wasn’t that keen on releasing them either, at least not as much as other folks released Keaton and Chaplin films.

    Fields, meanwhile, is pretty well-known among comedians who work “blue”, because Fields was a boundary-pusher. I would bet Bill Hicks liked Fields.

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    Every once in a while I watch a Fatty Arbuckle movie on TCM. The astonishing thing is that he doesn’t look fat at all compared to the obese men I see every day.
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  80. @Tiny Duck
    Saw Black Panther

    Just unreal

    Unlike most superheroes, Black Panther resonates with wider political and cultural hues. He is a genius level billionaire, expert at hand-to-hand combat and has vowed to keep his nation Wakanda safe and to fight crime. Guess, which other superhero has such similarities -- none other than Batman. Unlike Batman, whose front is that of a rich, spoilt playboy, Black Panther is a responsible leader of his men.

    The comic gave hope to a sort of an African utopia -- a country which was never colonised and has superior technology to everyone else and where the citizens live in close proximity with nature. The film stays faithful to that myth, building on to it and asking some hard-hitting, real world questions related to race and identity.

    The villain Killmonger is a complex character. He wants to end oppression to Black people for ever.

    The film is a technical marvel. The score, at once modern but having its core in African rhythms, adds to its charms.

    A film cast made almost entirely of black actors and directed by a black man, carrying a powerful political message and being hugely entertaining to boot -- Marvel has clicked all the right boxes and says "Not today" to Drumpf's false traitorous America. Who would have thought superhero film could fuel ideologies and challenge set norms? Wonder Woman did it for women and now Black Panther is doing it again for People of Color -- times surely are changing indeed...

    As plus all these white tears are delicious!

    What a body on Chadwick Boseman! No wonder white girls are increasingly giving their love to Men of Color! Michael B. Jordan is quite the specimen as well.

    Agreed, it is a masterpiece. (I was surprised to see  “based on an idea by Leni Riefenstahl” in the end credits. )

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  81. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Yo Steve, I'm bored, but you might find this interesting: https://www.lrb.co.uk/v40/n04/pankaj-mishra/why-do-white-people-like-what-i-write

    i got about halfway through that effluvium before asking myself: why do i care what someone called pankaj mishra has to say about the american experience?

    for all his faults, at least poor ta-nehisi has an anglo-american (can i say that?) last name…

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    I thought this was a nice touch

    " The Atlantic’s Robert Kaplan cheerfully reported that ‘Welcome to Injun Country’ was the refrain among American soldiers worldwide. The primal blood-lusts of the war on terror survived Obama’s renaming of it. The Seal Team that in 2011 eventually scalped Osama bin Laden (code-named Geronimo) carried 14-inch hatchets made by a North Carolina knife-maker known for his blades in the 1992 film The Last of the Mohicans. "
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  82. @ChrisZ
    Almost: As a kid in the '70s some friends and I played hooky from our suburban school and went into the city to catch the opening day matinee of "Excalibur," John Boorman's lavish take on King Arthur. Fantasy films were rare back then and could elicit genuine surprise; the audience demographic was as you would expect, and was a new experience for all of us.

    At one point in the film (IIRC), a young and extremely nubile Helen Mirren confronted Nicole Williamson's Merlin with a boa constrictor wrapped around her body. "Audience participation" (as you call it) reached a crescendo. "Whoa! Thazza big-a$$ snake!" still gets a big laugh whenever I get together with my old buddies.

    Many years ago, while attending a small summer camp in the Adirondacks (God, I loved that place), one of the junior counselors told us a story centering upon his having seen the James Bond flick, Goldfinger, in one of those movie theaters in which audience participation was the norm. At one spot in the movie, James Bond encounters Goldfinger’s female head pilot, and after a brief physical tussle during which James gets the better of her, he asks her to tell him her name, at which time she somewhat haughtily responds that her name is Pussy Galore. A quick-witted audience member, without missing a beat, shouted out, “Prove it”. An anecdote worthy of the recounting.

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  83. @CK
    What does the one thing have to do with the other thing?
    It's always envy time in America.

    It must be tough on you first generation replicants, not understanding humor or sarcasm.

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  84. @Tiny Duck
    Saw Black Panther

    Just unreal

    Unlike most superheroes, Black Panther resonates with wider political and cultural hues. He is a genius level billionaire, expert at hand-to-hand combat and has vowed to keep his nation Wakanda safe and to fight crime. Guess, which other superhero has such similarities -- none other than Batman. Unlike Batman, whose front is that of a rich, spoilt playboy, Black Panther is a responsible leader of his men.

    The comic gave hope to a sort of an African utopia -- a country which was never colonised and has superior technology to everyone else and where the citizens live in close proximity with nature. The film stays faithful to that myth, building on to it and asking some hard-hitting, real world questions related to race and identity.

    The villain Killmonger is a complex character. He wants to end oppression to Black people for ever.

    The film is a technical marvel. The score, at once modern but having its core in African rhythms, adds to its charms.

    A film cast made almost entirely of black actors and directed by a black man, carrying a powerful political message and being hugely entertaining to boot -- Marvel has clicked all the right boxes and says "Not today" to Drumpf's false traitorous America. Who would have thought superhero film could fuel ideologies and challenge set norms? Wonder Woman did it for women and now Black Panther is doing it again for People of Color -- times surely are changing indeed...

    As plus all these white tears are delicious!

    What a body on Chadwick Boseman! No wonder white girls are increasingly giving their love to Men of Color! Michael B. Jordan is quite the specimen as well.

    So, in short: two snaps, right? (All apologies to Blaine and Antoine…)

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    I'll see your two snaps and raise you a twist and a kiss:

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  85. @syonredux

    Astaire and Kelly succeeded because they could ACT a song. They sang in character, just as they danced in character, though their singing technique wasn’t even close to their dancing technique.
     
    Opera requires singers who can act; musicals require actors who can sing.

    “Opera requires singers who can act; musicals require actors who can sing.”

    I read Jussi Bjorling was once told he wasn’t much of an actor, to which he responded, “But I have my voice!”

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    Indeed he did. Indeed he did.
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  86. @Tiny Duck
    Saw Black Panther

    Just unreal

    Unlike most superheroes, Black Panther resonates with wider political and cultural hues. He is a genius level billionaire, expert at hand-to-hand combat and has vowed to keep his nation Wakanda safe and to fight crime. Guess, which other superhero has such similarities -- none other than Batman. Unlike Batman, whose front is that of a rich, spoilt playboy, Black Panther is a responsible leader of his men.

    The comic gave hope to a sort of an African utopia -- a country which was never colonised and has superior technology to everyone else and where the citizens live in close proximity with nature. The film stays faithful to that myth, building on to it and asking some hard-hitting, real world questions related to race and identity.

    The villain Killmonger is a complex character. He wants to end oppression to Black people for ever.

    The film is a technical marvel. The score, at once modern but having its core in African rhythms, adds to its charms.

    A film cast made almost entirely of black actors and directed by a black man, carrying a powerful political message and being hugely entertaining to boot -- Marvel has clicked all the right boxes and says "Not today" to Drumpf's false traitorous America. Who would have thought superhero film could fuel ideologies and challenge set norms? Wonder Woman did it for women and now Black Panther is doing it again for People of Color -- times surely are changing indeed...

    As plus all these white tears are delicious!

    What a body on Chadwick Boseman! No wonder white girls are increasingly giving their love to Men of Color! Michael B. Jordan is quite the specimen as well.

    TD, your shtick is wearing thin. Time for you to create a new character. You’re talented; you can do it. I believe in you.

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  87. @peterike
    Steve, did you ever see "Wonder Woman"? Last I could tell searching the blog was that you reported in June you hadn't seen it.

    I gave it a go the other day, since it's on HBO at the moment, and I couldn't last 20 minutes. It was excruciatingly bad. And I like dumb super hero movies.

    One of the worst parts was the accents. Apparently (accd to someone on IMDB so who knows), Gail Godot couldn't manage an American accent. So they have all the other Amazon women speaking in phonied up Israeli accents. It's really quite bizarre and off-putting. They all live on a secret island Zeus created for them, yet somehow they speak English with Israeli accents! And they are racially mixed as well. Uh huh.

    Then there was a pretty uninteresting fight on the beach between Amazons with swords and arrows vs. a bunch of Germans with guns. The Germans kill a lot of them before they are beaten.

    Then it got into the usual "Germans are evil vicious villains who want to destroy the world" stuff and that was enough for me. The acting was universally terrible.

    I watched Dunkirk on DVD last night (it was pretty good) and one of the trailers (headers?) was for Wonder Woman. It convinced me that I did not want to see the actual movie; even the highlights looked dumb.

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  88. @whorefinder
    I predict that We Wuz Panthers audience score will plummet just like Star Wars: The Last White guy, right down to just-sub-mediocre.

    There's a reason they released it in February, blocked people from posting bad critical reviews, and heavily promoted it to blacks as opposed to everyone: it's a sub-par Marvel movie they thought would flop, so turned it into a race-war.

    People click on race war.

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  89. @Tiny Duck
    Saw Black Panther

    Just unreal

    Unlike most superheroes, Black Panther resonates with wider political and cultural hues. He is a genius level billionaire, expert at hand-to-hand combat and has vowed to keep his nation Wakanda safe and to fight crime. Guess, which other superhero has such similarities -- none other than Batman. Unlike Batman, whose front is that of a rich, spoilt playboy, Black Panther is a responsible leader of his men.

    The comic gave hope to a sort of an African utopia -- a country which was never colonised and has superior technology to everyone else and where the citizens live in close proximity with nature. The film stays faithful to that myth, building on to it and asking some hard-hitting, real world questions related to race and identity.

    The villain Killmonger is a complex character. He wants to end oppression to Black people for ever.

    The film is a technical marvel. The score, at once modern but having its core in African rhythms, adds to its charms.

    A film cast made almost entirely of black actors and directed by a black man, carrying a powerful political message and being hugely entertaining to boot -- Marvel has clicked all the right boxes and says "Not today" to Drumpf's false traitorous America. Who would have thought superhero film could fuel ideologies and challenge set norms? Wonder Woman did it for women and now Black Panther is doing it again for People of Color -- times surely are changing indeed...

    As plus all these white tears are delicious!

    What a body on Chadwick Boseman! No wonder white girls are increasingly giving their love to Men of Color! Michael B. Jordan is quite the specimen as well.

    Whoa! It’s been a while since you’ve graced Steve’s blog with your wit and wisdom. I no doubt speak for all of us in the Sailerkommentariat in wishing for more frequent exercises in self-parody from you, Tiny D*ck!

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  90. @Gary in Gramercy
    So, in short: two snaps, right? (All apologies to Blaine and Antoine...)

    I’ll see your two snaps and raise you a twist and a kiss:

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  91. Saw this movie and while I thought it was decent, I thought it sugarcoated Barnum a bit too much. Waking away from the movie I was wondering to myself whether the perception of Barnum in my mind as some kind of cynical carnival barker was perhaps due to my lack of knowledge on the man. After all, the only thing I really knew about him was that “there’s a sucker born every minute” was something merely attributed to Barnum, so perhaps the idea that he was some sort of good-hearted populist whose name was dragged through the mud by the elites for merely catering to the riff-raff wasn’t ridiculous. Then I got home and skimmed his Wikipedia article:

    “In 1835, when he was 25, he began his career as a showman with his purchase and exhibition of a blind and almost completely paralyzed slave woman, Joice Heth, whom an acquaintance was trumpeting around Philadelphia as George Washington’s former nurse, and to be 161 years old. Though slavery was outlawed in New York at the time, he exploited a loophole that allowed him to lease her for a year for $1,000, borrowing $500 to complete the sale. Heth died in February 1836, at no more than 80 years old. Near the end of her life, Barnum had worked her for 10 to 12 hours a day, and after her death he hosted a live autopsy of her body in a New York Saloon. There spectators paid 50 cents to see the dead woman cut up, as he “revealed” that she was likely half her purported age.”

    Not exactly the bubblegum egalitarian “The Greatest Showman” portrays him to be. His life sounds better suited to some kind of “Better Call Saul” anti-hero story (and one with a far more interesting and complicated story).

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  92. @YIH
    There are now six negative reviews for Black Jesus, err, Panther. Putting it at 97%/77% on Rotten Tomatoes. Below The Godfather (1972) @98/98 but above Gone With The Wind @93/93.
    More evidence that like children and those with Down's Syndrome, Africans must be praised vastly above their accomplishments outside of sports even if they're not really accomplishments.
    Is Black Panther in the same league as The Godfather or Gone With The Wind? If the cast were White, of course not (the negative reviews I've seen put it in the lower tier of Marvel comic book movies along with The Hulk). But it has a mostly African cast and because it was released in Black ''History'' Month, these ''permanent children'' must be praised just like when your kid draws the outline of their hand and some squiggles as a picture of a turkey.
    Now I don't hate them, I just believe they should be treated like small children or those with Down's Syndrome. IOW they can't be equal to adult Whites because they aren't capable of it.
    Look at Baltimore, Detroit, Haiti - or increasingly, South Africa. Africans are Africans wherever on Earth they are.

    Agree, agree agree, nothing for me to add.

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  93. @larry lurker

    I worked with a youngish 30 something guy who had no familiarity with The Marx Brothers, the 3 Stooges and Abbot and Costello. The reason? “I don’t watch black and white movies.”
     
    I'm a youngish 30-something guy and while I would never say something so philistine, it really is kind of hard to go from watching modern movies in 4K/widescreen/7.1 audio to something letterboxed and colorless with tinny, monaural audio. There's just so much less audio-visual information to take in.

    It wouldn't/didn't keep me from watching Citizen Kane though, like it did the guy you worked with...

    I’m 75 and I don’t like black and White movies either. I wish they’d colorize all the movies they show on TV

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    My kids were born around 1990. One day on the way to school, I told them we had only B&W TV when I was growing up. One of them said, "But, Dad! How did you watch your cartoons?"

    Old B&W movies are hard to watch mostly for the over acting and the obvious story lines. Some of them though show superb use of light and shadow.

    , @Pericles

    I wish they’d colorize all the movies they show on TV

     

    They could at least finish colorizing The Wizard of Oz.
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  94. @whorefinder
    I predict that We Wuz Panthers audience score will plummet just like Star Wars: The Last White guy, right down to just-sub-mediocre.

    There's a reason they released it in February, blocked people from posting bad critical reviews, and heavily promoted it to blacks as opposed to everyone: it's a sub-par Marvel movie they thought would flop, so turned it into a race-war.

    The audience score is now down at 75%!

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  95. @syonredux

    That would NOT be politically correct today. You’d have to put normal kids in some sort of fat suit.
     
    Get WOKE, bigot. Putting a thin person in a fat suit is akin to blackface.

    it’s lipoappropiation.

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  96. In an attempt to maintain and enhance the high tone of this conversation, my sainted Father (born in 1919) was reported to have quoted W.C. Fields in describing my newborn brother’s head: “he’s got a head like a Rocky Ford cantaloupe”. Apparently my brother was bald when he was born.

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  97. @whorefinder

    (Is W.C. Fields the most forgotten of the comedy giants?)
     
    Nah, that falls to Harold Lloyd, the great silent film comedian, who was one of the big three of silent comedy with Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton (four if you count Fatty Arbuckle).

    Lloyd's major sin is that he was into segregation, and lived in a Hollywood community that had covenants that blocked Jews and blacks from moving in. Remember, angering (((tribesmen))) will get you either Hitlered or unpersoned. Barring Jews from anything in Hollywood is a quick way to anger them over the top, as the countless stories about Jews and WASP country clubs show.

    Lloyd also kept his own careful copyrights on all his works, but released them infrequently afterwards, so later generations didn't know him as well. Then Time-Life bought them and badly edited them, and Time-Life wasn't that keen on releasing them either, at least not as much as other folks released Keaton and Chaplin films.

    Fields, meanwhile, is pretty well-known among comedians who work "blue", because Fields was a boundary-pusher. I would bet Bill Hicks liked Fields.

    Every once in a while I watch a Fatty Arbuckle movie on TCM. The astonishing thing is that he doesn’t look fat at all compared to the obese men I see every day.

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  98. I’m not sure why Wahlberg is a star. He’s a bad actor, his movies are generally bad, and he has an annoying affect. He’s not leading man material and has no gravitas.

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    I like this analysis because by this reasoning Akiva Goldsman is not a screenwriter. I agree completely.
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  99. Not entirely OT: one of my favourite legal cases… the smallest perfectly proportioned man in the world vs a Burmese elephant:

    https://h2o.law.harvard.edu/cases/4042

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  100. @syonredux

    That would NOT be politically correct today. You’d have to put normal kids in some sort of fat suit.
     
    Get WOKE, bigot. Putting a thin person in a fat suit is akin to blackface.

    The only reasonable thing to do is to put a fat person in a fat suit.

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  102. @The Alarmist
    I saw Love Actually in one of those $3 theatres shortly after its release in the US, and I thought it was cute, but the crowd was sort of mixed in its reaction, which is why it was in a $3 theatre so soon after its release. It has gone on to gross 5x its production costs. Seems movies like these have legs. Wonder if that will be the case with BP.

    Some 8/10 American chick loved me for that film. I’ve not seen it but 10/10 for giving her that fantasy and my night.

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    Martin Freeman was in Love Actually and is one of the few non-diverse thespians allowed into Black Panther.
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  103. @peterike
    Steve, did you ever see "Wonder Woman"? Last I could tell searching the blog was that you reported in June you hadn't seen it.

    I gave it a go the other day, since it's on HBO at the moment, and I couldn't last 20 minutes. It was excruciatingly bad. And I like dumb super hero movies.

    One of the worst parts was the accents. Apparently (accd to someone on IMDB so who knows), Gail Godot couldn't manage an American accent. So they have all the other Amazon women speaking in phonied up Israeli accents. It's really quite bizarre and off-putting. They all live on a secret island Zeus created for them, yet somehow they speak English with Israeli accents! And they are racially mixed as well. Uh huh.

    Then there was a pretty uninteresting fight on the beach between Amazons with swords and arrows vs. a bunch of Germans with guns. The Germans kill a lot of them before they are beaten.

    Then it got into the usual "Germans are evil vicious villains who want to destroy the world" stuff and that was enough for me. The acting was universally terrible.

    Then it got into the usual “Germans are evil vicious villains who want to destroy the world” stuff a

    Angie Merkel is playing to type?

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  104. @whorefinder
    I predict that We Wuz Panthers audience score will plummet just like Star Wars: The Last White guy, right down to just-sub-mediocre.

    There's a reason they released it in February, blocked people from posting bad critical reviews, and heavily promoted it to blacks as opposed to everyone: it's a sub-par Marvel movie they thought would flop, so turned it into a race-war.

    There’s a reason they released it in February, blocked people from posting bad critical reviews, and heavily promoted it to blacks as opposed to everyone: it’s a sub-par Marvel movie they thought would flop, so turned it into a race-war.

    My Agree button isn’t operational, but you’re exactly right. They’re making lemonade out of a lemon.

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  105. @The Alarmist
    There might be other evidence that the "We're all out of Africa" thingy might be a myth, though it is still a lot of conjecture at this point:

    https://www.sciencealert.com/ancient-teeth-rewrite-human-history-9-7-million-year-old-mystery

    I think maybe the authors of this piece don’t understand that in the conventional narrative of human evolution that our progenitors are thought to have left Africa twice. Once about a million years ago and once about 100,00 years ago. The first time led to the Hidelbergs the Neanderthals and the Denisovans. The second more recent event led to the Modern Europeans and East Asians.

    This may very well be wrong but this article is too confused to consider very important – as yet. Wait a few years and more will be known.

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  106. @Achmed E. Newman

    We went to see Black Panther, ...
     
    I really don't get this, Steve. I've seen, what?, 10 posts or so on this Wakanda business. I don't particularly care about the movie but do understand the effects of the bullshit pseudo-history on people of the darker persuasion. That's what you have been writing about.

    Why support this crap, then? Hell, I know it's good for you, or anyone, to get off the internet for a while. You could have gone to play golf or ogle a new golf course; I wouldn't have written anything bad (cause I wouldn't have read it), and more power to you. But giving $10 - $20 to the people that you rail against doesn't make a damn bit of sense to me.

    You were a marketing guy, right? It's all about the money. They don't care what Steve Sailer writes about them, but they would care if 1,000,000 Sailers and Sailer-reading potential movie-goers don't show up.


    ... but that was sold out.
     
    You inadvertently did the right thing then, or are you going again next week?

    He’s seeing it so none of the readers need to.

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    Yes, anon, about 1/2 day later I did think "oh yeah, maybe Steve has to see it to write a review. It's part of his work, so it's understandable." That explains his reading of the NY Times too, it's just part of the job description - somebody's gotta do it.

    It's not like I'm gonna read the review anyway, but I'm sure lots of you on this thread will, and movies are one of Steve's things. For me, I mostly have to go back to the mid-'90's and earlier to find anything worth watching or talking/writing about.
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  107. @Father O'Hara
    I just enjoyed Russ Tamblyn,one of my all time favorites. All time!!

    My dancer friends in college were blown away by Tamblyn but never considered him a dancer – more of an acrobat.

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  108. @Corn
    “Maybe all this silliness will now die down.”

    You’re quite the optimist my friend

    Well I can hope.

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  109. @Nigerian Nationalist
    I see opinion, but no links...

    I see that my colleagues have emerged to speak for me.

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  110. @Kylie
    "Opera requires singers who can act; musicals require actors who can sing."

    I read Jussi Bjorling was once told he wasn't much of an actor, to which he responded, "But I have my voice!"

    Indeed he did. Indeed he did.

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  111. OT Russian indictments
    Mueller was exposed as a fraud, so he did the best thing he could do in his position: “indict” some Russkies, who may or may not exist, and are sure not showing up in an American courtroom any time soon. Crucially, Mueller is completely abandoning all the original accusations: at the press conference they redundantly reiterate that there were no Americans who knew anything about this and no Trump election campaign collusion. They specifically say that some of the activities were anti-Trump (because the overall goal was “chaos.” Or was that, would you believe, K.A.O.S.?) Interestingly the language he uses — describing a combination of social media agitprop and astroturf activism — perfectly describes a lot of left wing activities that resulted in the deaths of police officers and the loss of millions of dollars in property damage. I’m sure the law talkers will get right on that any minute now, it’s only been years. But at least Mueller has Russians to point to.
    Can you imagine if these incompetant traitors had to defend us against the Chinese?

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  112. @Anonymous
    I'm not sure why Wahlberg is a star. He's a bad actor, his movies are generally bad, and he has an annoying affect. He's not leading man material and has no gravitas.

    I like this analysis because by this reasoning Akiva Goldsman is not a screenwriter. I agree completely.

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  113. @Jonathan Mason

    Astaire and Kelly succeeded because they could ACT a song. They sang in character, just as they danced in character, though their singing technique wasn’t even close to their dancing technique.
     
    Astaire was not a bad singer. The late career album Fred Astaire sings, recorded with the Oscar Peterson trio is a nice listen.

    I LIKE Kelly's singing, especially in wet weather. I think perhaps his singing grows on you, but he was perhaps more of a live stage vocal performer than a recording artist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCSUsF_YEe0

    They do not make 'em like that any more.

    That’s a cute aphorism. I think I’ll use it.

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  114. @whorefinder
    I predict that We Wuz Panthers audience score will plummet just like Star Wars: The Last White guy, right down to just-sub-mediocre.

    There's a reason they released it in February, blocked people from posting bad critical reviews, and heavily promoted it to blacks as opposed to everyone: it's a sub-par Marvel movie they thought would flop, so turned it into a race-war.

    The scary thing though is that when a black supremacist historical rewrite is released and flips, it does not die. It will live forever on cable and in ghetto public school classrooms where teachers pacify “good” classes with “movie day.” And that audience will believe all of it.

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    You remember having to watch Glory every year on one of those wheeled carts with a television and videocassette recorder strapped to it as well, huh?
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  115. @Paul Jolliffe
    Steve,

    Beginning at the 5:01 mark is the UCLA Marching Band performing "Another Day of Sun" in the Rose Bowl last November.

    Link it to your article - it is a great version, and it will become a standard for marching bands.

    https://youtu.be/yMJwys-vm4M

    What ever happened to “Band master strike up the band”?

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  116. @Alden
    I’m 75 and I don’t like black and White movies either. I wish they'd colorize all the movies they show on TV

    My kids were born around 1990. One day on the way to school, I told them we had only B&W TV when I was growing up. One of them said, “But, Dad! How did you watch your cartoons?”

    Old B&W movies are hard to watch mostly for the over acting and the obvious story lines. Some of them though show superb use of light and shadow.

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    Obvious storylines? The plots of modern movies at least as (and often are far more) tired and predictable as anything from older far. Hell, half of the current stuff is older fare. Lethal Weapon starting Damon Wayans. House Party starting LeBron James. Sabrina, which was already rehashing Archie comics when Melissa Joan Hart did the first adaptation. West Side Story.

    Hollywoo is more pathetic than ever in its history. Just as Silly Valley abandoned technology for marketing, so has Holywoo abandoned art or even entertainment. Both industries are now as parasitic and rent-seeking as finance, insurance, and real estate. The whole damned country is a garbage fire. With such soaring innovation and productivity, is it any wonder we can now easily afford the trillions of expenditures the conservative legislature and president just authorised?

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  117. @Jonathan Mason

    Astaire and Kelly succeeded because they could ACT a song. They sang in character, just as they danced in character, though their singing technique wasn’t even close to their dancing technique.
     
    Astaire was not a bad singer. The late career album Fred Astaire sings, recorded with the Oscar Peterson trio is a nice listen.

    I LIKE Kelly's singing, especially in wet weather. I think perhaps his singing grows on you, but he was perhaps more of a live stage vocal performer than a recording artist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCSUsF_YEe0

    They do not make 'em like that any more.

    Well of course I like Astaire’s singing. I’m a retired semi-pro opera singer. I like Stracciari and Bjorling but whose heart is so dead that that they don’t respond to Astaire just because he doesn’t have a ringing full throated high notes?

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  118. Joe E. Brown is the most forgotten of the old comedy stars.

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    Mme B and I saw him just the other night in a c. 1935 “Midsummer Night’s Dream”. He played one of the Rude Mechanicals and Thisbe. Cagney as Bottom. Mickey Rooney as Puck. I’m not sure that color would have enhanced it much.
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  119. @anonymous

    Seems movies like these have legs. Wonder if that will be the case with BP.
     
    Are Blu-Rays stolen from Walmart counted in the gross?

    They’re already in the distribution chain, so most likely ‘yes.’

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  120. @Jonathan Mason

    Astaire and Kelly succeeded because they could ACT a song. They sang in character, just as they danced in character, though their singing technique wasn’t even close to their dancing technique.
     
    Astaire was not a bad singer. The late career album Fred Astaire sings, recorded with the Oscar Peterson trio is a nice listen.

    I LIKE Kelly's singing, especially in wet weather. I think perhaps his singing grows on you, but he was perhaps more of a live stage vocal performer than a recording artist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCSUsF_YEe0

    They do not make 'em like that any more.

    Astaire understood a song from the inside out, as he wrote quite a few himself, though the only one to become a standard was “I’m Building Up to an Awful Letdown”, and his role in that is disputed. Still, he knew how to get the best out of other songwriters.

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  121. @anonymous
    I can hardly wait! Truth, Tiny Duck and I are going to see Panther this weekend (I fandango’d us some premo seats), then we going to meet Art Deco at Schnippersnew Thunder Bun Resto (don’t scold Art will be ordering from the lighter side menu) for an aprés le film ciné-feast and dialogue. And it’s my tab because friends are special.

    What Tiny Duck is a real person? I assumed that he was a just an elaborate joke.

    When I was younger I used to see a lot of movies in black ghetto theaters. I saw the original Shaft in a ghetto theater and a couple of other “blaxplotation” movies. But I put in a Home Theater about fifteen years ago and I haven’t been in any movie theater since then. I still go out to live opera of course but movie theaters are designed to keep the audience alone and separated. At the opera you dress up and have cocktails at the bar at intermission.

    I hope you have fun.

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  122. @anonymous
    As I recall, Fields had a field day in the late 60s , rising to the level of cult status. Indeed, his image can be seen on the cover of the Sgt. Pepper album. Not sure why, other than the implicit cynicism in many of his characters. I was never a big fan of his, preferring instead the inspired madness of the Marx Brothers and the rapid fire give-and-take of Abbott/Costello. Beginning in the 70s, Fields began to fade from view while Abbot/Costello wound up in the Baseball Hall of Fame (literally).

    I remember that. Two things stand out. First, there was a popular poster of Fields playing cards in that ridiculously large top hat. Second, there was a tell all book (or maybe an unauthorized biography) written by a former lover or wife, that was condemned by Fields’ family. Quite the controversy. I also remember that Fields’ foe Mae West had a brief revival I think because she was in Myra Breckenridge.

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    Mae West released a pop rock album (Way Out West) which should still be floating around the Internet. The songs are something like if Paul Revere and the Raiders had to do a gig at a burlesque hall.
    , @Anonymous

    I also remember that Fields’ foe Mae West had a brief revival I think because she was in Myra Breckenridge.
     
    Right, replete with raunchy lines and a famous feud with Raquel Welch.

    The young Farrah Fawcett is also in the film.

    Three generations of sex bombs in one film, but they skipped a couple or more between West and Welch. There was the Veronica Lake era, the Marilyn Monroe era, you could consider the Kim Novak/Angie Dickinson era between them. By then MM was dead, Veronica Lake a burned out wreck slinging hash in New York and Angie doing network TV.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifQ-7YwVG_U
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  123. @Pat Boyle
    I see that they have just this month extracted DNA from some Egyptian mummy teeth. Analysis of that DNA seems to clearly and unequivocally show that the ancient Egyptians were descended from Caucasians from the Levant not black negroes from sub-Saharan Africa.

    So one of the pillars of the Black Athena (We wuz Kangz) movement that underlies the idea of Wakanda and the movie "Black Panther" has been knocked out in unambiguous terms. Maybe all this silliness will now die down.

    23&Me says that I have more Neanderthal genes than 94% of their customers. Black Africans have no Neanderthal genes … ergo, this proves we did not all “come out of Africa”.

    Those of us from Northern and Western Europe related to the Neaderthals are different in kind from the sub-Saharan Black Africans. Maybe that’s the difference. I’ll account my White-Skinned Green-Eyed Privilege and life’s accomplishments to this difference.

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    Your reasoning seems to be defective. The standard narrative today is that two groups that had evolved in Africa to become Anatomically Modern Humans (AMH) - that means that they had developed the gracile (long thin extremities) bodies that all human now have, then walked out of Africa. The ones that walked to the west met the robust Neanderthals, and those that went more toward the east met the Denisovans. These two species interbred with the African travelers and contributed a few percent to the resulting human genome.

    The Africans who did not walk north have no Neanderthal or Denisovans genes. It is true that the stay at home Africans are less intelligent than the Europeans or Asians that went north but that is probably not from the gene admixture. Most anthropologists believe that the more northerly climes led to bigger, better brains.

    I expect that with new discoveries this picture will be modified but to date this is the consensus picture of human evolution.
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  124. @Father O'Hara
    I just enjoyed Russ Tamblyn,one of my all time favorites. All time!!

    Especially as Dr Jacoby in Twin Peaks!

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  125. @The Man From K Street
    YMMV, but in my own opinion, Fields' comedy has aged rather well. As has Laurel & Hardy's act. Not as well as the Marx Bros., but respectable so.

    Not aged well at all: Abbott & Costello. And above all, Charlie Chaplin.

    Not aged well at all: Abbott & Costello.

    Video: Who’s On First.

    ‘Hu’ joke spreads ignorance – The Mercury News

    BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Costello ‘sorry’ for China jibes

    Costello Really Sorry for ‘Hu’ Crack

    Group Not Satisfied With Abbott & Costello Apology – CBS News

    Abbott & Costello Apologizes for Racist Comedy Skit

    Asian Leaders Angered by Abbott & Costello’s “Who’s On First”

    Outrage Grows Over Abbott’s Asian Joke

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  126. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    An epiphany!

    If Wakandans want to gain dominance over America, they should forge an alliance with North Koreans who invaded the US in the remake of RED DAWN.

    Wakandans and North Koreans… no one can stand in their way.

    It must be true. Hollywood said so.

    BLACK PANTHER, a defining moment for blacks.
    RED DAWN reboot, a defining moment for Norks.

    They got the power!!

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  127. @slumber_j
    Entirely off-topic: evidently and unsurprisingly, Moynihan's Law of Proximity to the Canadian Border applies to self-perceived sexiness as well:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/image14.png?itok=qVoG1fiE

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-15/united-states-sex-survey-17000-women

    Show me the second map — the American obesity map.

    And then do a mashup-map of obesity-times-sexy.

    Label it the American Female Self-Delusion map.

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  128. @Busby
    I remember that. Two things stand out. First, there was a popular poster of Fields playing cards in that ridiculously large top hat. Second, there was a tell all book (or maybe an unauthorized biography) written by a former lover or wife, that was condemned by Fields' family. Quite the controversy. I also remember that Fields' foe Mae West had a brief revival I think because she was in Myra Breckenridge.

    Mae West released a pop rock album (Way Out West) which should still be floating around the Internet. The songs are something like if Paul Revere and the Raiders had to do a gig at a burlesque hall.

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  129. @Anonymous
    OT: Twenty million illegals here and it's big news that 200 are arrested (not deported).

    This is proof of the STANDDOWN: "one of the biggest enforcement actions in years against businesses in LA"



    Federal deportation officers staged one of the biggest enforcement actions in years against businesses in Los Angeles this week, arresting 212 people and serving audit notices to 122 businesses who will have to prove they aren’t hiring illegal immigrants.


    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/16/ice-arrests-212-illegals-la-sweep/

    This is a PR stunt...

    So what is the right costume to spread hysteria? After all government agents can’t be everywhere.

    I was thinking of wearing a pair of reflective sunglasses, dark blue baseball cap and a dark blue windbreaker with “ICE” printed on the back when I visit Jose’s Taqueria at lunch hour. Maybe have a pair of costume handcuffs in a little leather holster on my belt.

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  130. @Flip
    Robert Preston

    Ah, yes, Centauri!

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  131. @Pat Boyle
    I remember seeing one of the Bruce Lee films in some ghetto theater. Several of the black men in the audience demonstrated their talent with their nunchakus for the delectation of the others.

    I trust you were suitably impressed.

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  132. @Tyrion 2
    Some 8/10 American chick loved me for that film. I've not seen it but 10/10 for giving her that fantasy and my night.

    Martin Freeman was in Love Actually and is one of the few non-diverse thespians allowed into Black Panther.

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  133. @Tiny Duck
    Saw Black Panther

    Just unreal

    Unlike most superheroes, Black Panther resonates with wider political and cultural hues. He is a genius level billionaire, expert at hand-to-hand combat and has vowed to keep his nation Wakanda safe and to fight crime. Guess, which other superhero has such similarities -- none other than Batman. Unlike Batman, whose front is that of a rich, spoilt playboy, Black Panther is a responsible leader of his men.

    The comic gave hope to a sort of an African utopia -- a country which was never colonised and has superior technology to everyone else and where the citizens live in close proximity with nature. The film stays faithful to that myth, building on to it and asking some hard-hitting, real world questions related to race and identity.

    The villain Killmonger is a complex character. He wants to end oppression to Black people for ever.

    The film is a technical marvel. The score, at once modern but having its core in African rhythms, adds to its charms.

    A film cast made almost entirely of black actors and directed by a black man, carrying a powerful political message and being hugely entertaining to boot -- Marvel has clicked all the right boxes and says "Not today" to Drumpf's false traitorous America. Who would have thought superhero film could fuel ideologies and challenge set norms? Wonder Woman did it for women and now Black Panther is doing it again for People of Color -- times surely are changing indeed...

    As plus all these white tears are delicious!

    What a body on Chadwick Boseman! No wonder white girls are increasingly giving their love to Men of Color! Michael B. Jordan is quite the specimen as well.

    This almost made me wonder “Is this guy for real after all?” until the last sentence, which was too clearly red meat to the Whiskey types. Even the most deadpan parodists usually give themselves away eventually. Grade of B+.

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  134. Black Panther is pretty good I thought. Actually pretty un-PC. Very positive portrayal of Monarchy, Wakanda is a nice Tribalist Futurist paradise, lots of toxic masculinity, zero evidence of LGBT and trans narrative. Some empowered female warriors, but with less of the lesbian camp of Wonder Woman.

    Yes, there are 4 or 5 places where they could subtitle in “Blacketty-Black” but you can ignore it.

    I guess you can still do a good old fashioned movie with strong manly figures coming in to save the day, as long as you don’t have any white people in it. [Actually, there is one clearly Beta white "ally" who unfortunately doesn't die, but who cares.]

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  135. @slumber_j
    Entirely off-topic: evidently and unsurprisingly, Moynihan's Law of Proximity to the Canadian Border applies to self-perceived sexiness as well:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/image14.png?itok=qVoG1fiE

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-15/united-states-sex-survey-17000-women

    It roughly coincides with the map of states with the greatest obesity. Say what?!

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    Right: this is self-reported sexiness. It's almost certainly a matter of delusion in many cases.
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  136. > The secret of this PG-rated movie’s popularity is that it will make a popular high school (or middle school) musical in the near future.

    Pretty funny line.

    Steve, you really should leverage your work by compiling some “best of” collections in paper and e-book formats. Your reader/commenter base will see you to break-even at least, “Merry Christmas, here’s a sample of some work by that internet guy I’ve been telling you about.”

    Start with your movie reviews.

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  137. Jim Dale was pretty good as Barnum. Even better as Scapino.

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  138. @Obsessive Contrarian
    One way to remember the difference between the two is that Barnum is way older - born in 1810, and Fields in 1880.

    There is a P.T. Barnum museum in Bridgeport, CT, but I never stopped in.

    “There is a P.T. Barnum museum in Bridgeport, CT, but I never stopped in.”

    When I was a child I went there a couple of times with my grandfather, who lived in the next town over. While I don’t remember many of the exhibits I do recall that it was a great deal of fun. Admission has always been free.

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    prosa123:

    If anyone is thinking about visiting Bridgeport CT please be notified that it is in a neck-and-neck race with Camden NY as the worst-of-the-worst in the eastern US!
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  139. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    It’s the music. Better than a cyclo spinning class: pure ‘feel strong’ music that’s also very catchy. Plus 3 story lines:
    -for older traditional moms and dads, a story about the-princess-and-the-plumber, brokenness and redemption.
    - for the young yearning for love, a Cinderella story with a successful entrepreneur who takes risks.
    - for the uglies, a way to ‘we are family’.

    My kids were bugging me to go since early December. Teen boys love it also, particularly the bar scene. Personally, just one more Hollywood movie about how great show business is, and how boring to be rich and classy. Don’t we all want to sing and triumph?

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  140. @RadicalCenter
    Yeah California! Of all the obese waddling Mexican women, ours are the sexiest. No no, that’s not fair: a lot of the white women are tubs too.

    SoCal does have a lot of hot people who think they’re going to be stars. Be interesting to find a way to measure if that’s tapering off now.

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  141. @larry lurker

    I worked with a youngish 30 something guy who had no familiarity with The Marx Brothers, the 3 Stooges and Abbot and Costello. The reason? “I don’t watch black and white movies.”
     
    I'm a youngish 30-something guy and while I would never say something so philistine, it really is kind of hard to go from watching modern movies in 4K/widescreen/7.1 audio to something letterboxed and colorless with tinny, monaural audio. There's just so much less audio-visual information to take in.

    It wouldn't/didn't keep me from watching Citizen Kane though, like it did the guy you worked with...

    I just happened upon the end of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington on TCM, which I have seen before but for whatever reason did not remember very well compared to some of the other Capra films (other than the well-known basic outline of the plot), and it hooked me immediately. I guess it depends how much you want a certain kind of audiovisual experience and how much you just want a good story (and good actors like Stewart, Arthur, Rains, and Mitchell).

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  142. @BB753
    Critics (55%) and audience (89%) disagree at Rotten Tomatoes for this film. While the Black Panther movie gets a measly 77% audience score.

    77% audience score is after 2 days. Wonder Woman and Thor final score are both at 88%. It will be interesting to see how it is explained if BP box office does not live up to the hype.

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  143. Speaking of con artists, Mattress Girl is back, in various states of undress. Our future Jewish/Asian ruling class, ladies and gentlemen.

    https://news.artnet.com/art-world/emma-sulkowicz-performance-protest-1214429

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    Emma Sulkowicz needs a personal trainer. I think she could market this whole thing better if she was just hotter. She’s carrying 30 extra pounds.
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  144. @Glaivester
    Ah, yes, Centauri!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvtt94Oz4N4

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  145. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @larry lurker

    I worked with a youngish 30 something guy who had no familiarity with The Marx Brothers, the 3 Stooges and Abbot and Costello. The reason? “I don’t watch black and white movies.”
     
    I'm a youngish 30-something guy and while I would never say something so philistine, it really is kind of hard to go from watching modern movies in 4K/widescreen/7.1 audio to something letterboxed and colorless with tinny, monaural audio. There's just so much less audio-visual information to take in.

    It wouldn't/didn't keep me from watching Citizen Kane though, like it did the guy you worked with...

    wwebd said:
    peterike – speaking as a human to a human – stop liking “dumb super hero movies”.

    The people who make those movies – with an exception or two – absolutely do not like you.

    I say that, not knowing if you are an average commenter here (average cynical American) or one of the weird unthinkingly anti-Jewish or anti-Christian posters (if you are, repent, my young friend – start with a reading of one of the shorter gospels), or one of the otherwise weird posters who think that they have found sort of a home here because Steve Sailer is not easily fooled, or pretends not to be. Well we all need to independently decide not to be fooled. Poor Tiny Duck and mostly clueless Whiskey may, some day, decide not to he fooled — today is not that day.

    Life is short and there are thousands, infinitely thousands of more interesting things than dumb super hero movies.

    Even Heath Ledger would agree, he really really tried hard to take a dumb super hero movie seriously. Look where it got him.

    The people who made the Poseidon Adventure tried to make a movie where people care about each other. No superheroes in that movie.

    larrylurker – life is short and not a lot of our contemporaries are talented, no matter how much information they put out, and not that many more of our parents’ and grandparents’ contemporaries are talented either. I don’t appreciate the laziness of those people with the talent to colorize old black and white movies who refuse to do it, but there is a lot of comedy that is not otherwise available that you miss if you don’t watch black and white movies. Don’t miss out if you don;t have to.

    W.C. Fields was a genius. If he owed me money I would not expect him to pay it back, and I would not let him date my sister or my daughter, but he did know how to make people laugh. How many people have done as much?

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    The people who made the Poseidon Adventure tried to make a movie where people care about each other.
     
    Crap film
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  146. @Nigerian Nationalist
    I see opinion, but no links...

    Ohh come on, it’s simple internet etiquette to link claims, saying “Google it” is an absurd dodge.

    Anyways I did–now the next person won’t go through the trouble.

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    NigerianNationalist. You’re internets skills are improving but you did reply to yourself. Keep plugging away.
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  147. @anonymous
    No g**gle in Nigeria? What kind of shithole is it?

    Out of curiosity, do you rely on Trump to tell you what to eat for breakfast too?

    It’s oddly Beta that you seem incapable of inventing insults of your own.

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    Out of curiosity, do you rely on Trump to tell you what to eat for breakfast too?
     
    Ouch!

    It’s oddly Beta that you seem incapable of inventing insults of your own.
     
    Touché!
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  148. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Wakanda?

    More like the West is now

    Welcomda.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/02/14/number-illegal-migrants-crossing-sea-italy-doubles/

    Obama and Hillary didn’t just take out Gaddafi. They busted the dam that held the African tide from Europe. Gaddafi knew because all those blacks were coming to Libya not to stay but to move to Europe.
    He was the dam engineer and knew the dangers because his nation is right above black African nations.

    Kill the engineer and blow up the dam, and the result is the horror.

    Hillary and Merkel, the harridans. And all those white cuck males who just went along. And who is Prince Harry marrying?

    Shame.

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  149. @prosa123
    "There is a P.T. Barnum museum in Bridgeport, CT, but I never stopped in."

    When I was a child I went there a couple of times with my grandfather, who lived in the next town over. While I don't remember many of the exhibits I do recall that it was a great deal of fun. Admission has always been free.

    prosa123:

    If anyone is thinking about visiting Bridgeport CT please be notified that it is in a neck-and-neck race with Camden NY as the worst-of-the-worst in the eastern US!

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    Camden, New Jersey, home of 1983 Heisman Trophy winner Mike Rozier, is one of the garden-spots that makes New Jersey the Garden State.
    , @Anonymous

    If anyone is thinking about visiting Bridgeport CT please be notified that it is in a neck-and-neck race with Camden NY as the worst-of-the-worst in the eastern US!
     
    I assume you mean Camden, NJ, not NY.
    , @prosa123
    "If anyone is thinking about visiting Bridgeport CT please be notified that it is in a neck-and-neck race with Camden NY as the worst-of-the-worst in the eastern US!"

    While there are many bad sections the downtown area has gotten much better in the last decade or so. It has more restaurants and nightlife, and is home to the ever-expanding headquarters of People's Bank, one of the larger regional banks. It also benefits from being the terminal of the (scenic but overpriced, $70 one way for car and driver), Cross-Sound Ferry.
    , @Obsessive Contrarian
    It's nothing like Camden New Jersey. I would not go to Camden in a tank.

    Bridgeport is very different. The majority of it is crappy and Hispanic but not truly scary.

    The downtown area is really very nice.

    Unfortunately, we learned afterwards that there was a very picturesque area that we completely missed. I forget the name of it. I'll try to look it up.

    Edit: well that was quick. It's called Black Rock. I got it on citydata.com. a person asked for "Caucasian areas of Bridgeport" and was soundly criticized for the question.

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  150. @The Alarmist
    I saw Love Actually in one of those $3 theatres shortly after its release in the US, and I thought it was cute, but the crowd was sort of mixed in its reaction, which is why it was in a $3 theatre so soon after its release. It has gone on to gross 5x its production costs. Seems movies like these have legs. Wonder if that will be the case with BP.

    Sorry to be so crude guys, but Love Actually was the gayest fuckin’ shit ever.

    Note that the movie was criticized for a lack of gays and still pulled this off.

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    "... was the gayest fuckin’ shit ever, ..."
     
    "not that there's anything wrong with that."

    The (((Seinfeldian))) way of saying you're not a homophobe.
    , @Jim Don Bob

    Sorry to be so crude guys, but Love Actually was the gayest fuckin’ shit ever.
     
    Women love that movie. I thought it was retarded.
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  151. @Anonymous
    It roughly coincides with the map of states with the greatest obesity. Say what?!

    Right: this is self-reported sexiness. It’s almost certainly a matter of delusion in many cases.

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  152. @Anonymous
    'The Greatest Showman' can only be that late British 'entertainer', Bruce Forsyth.

    If it wasn’t for Toast of London, I would have no idea who you’re talking about.

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  153. @Pat Boyle
    What Tiny Duck is a real person? I assumed that he was a just an elaborate joke.

    When I was younger I used to see a lot of movies in black ghetto theaters. I saw the original Shaft in a ghetto theater and a couple of other "blaxplotation" movies. But I put in a Home Theater about fifteen years ago and I haven't been in any movie theater since then. I still go out to live opera of course but movie theaters are designed to keep the audience alone and separated. At the opera you dress up and have cocktails at the bar at intermission.

    I hope you have fun.

    I have always assumed Tiny Dick was satire. Didn’t you?

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  154. @Pat Boyle
    I see that they have just this month extracted DNA from some Egyptian mummy teeth. Analysis of that DNA seems to clearly and unequivocally show that the ancient Egyptians were descended from Caucasians from the Levant not black negroes from sub-Saharan Africa.

    So one of the pillars of the Black Athena (We wuz Kangz) movement that underlies the idea of Wakanda and the movie "Black Panther" has been knocked out in unambiguous terms. Maybe all this silliness will now die down.

    “Analysis of that DNA seems to clearly and unequivocally show that the ancient Egyptians were descended from Caucasians from the Levant not black negroes from sub-Saharan Africa.”

    The ancient egyptians *that could afford to be mummified*. And wasn’t Cleopatra basically greek?

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    There are plenty of mummies, and of course Cleopatra (Cleopatra VII) was Greek (or rather Macedonian). The idea that Cleopatra was black is crazier than the flying pyramids notion.
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  155. @Jim Don Bob
    My kids were born around 1990. One day on the way to school, I told them we had only B&W TV when I was growing up. One of them said, "But, Dad! How did you watch your cartoons?"

    Old B&W movies are hard to watch mostly for the over acting and the obvious story lines. Some of them though show superb use of light and shadow.

    Obvious storylines? The plots of modern movies at least as (and often are far more) tired and predictable as anything from older far. Hell, half of the current stuff is older fare. Lethal Weapon starting Damon Wayans. House Party starting LeBron James. Sabrina, which was already rehashing Archie comics when Melissa Joan Hart did the first adaptation. West Side Story.

    Hollywoo is more pathetic than ever in its history. Just as Silly Valley abandoned technology for marketing, so has Holywoo abandoned art or even entertainment. Both industries are now as parasitic and rent-seeking as finance, insurance, and real estate. The whole damned country is a garbage fire. With such soaring innovation and productivity, is it any wonder we can now easily afford the trillions of expenditures the conservative legislature and president just authorised?

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  156. @J.Ross
    The scary thing though is that when a black supremacist historical rewrite is released and flips, it does not die. It will live forever on cable and in ghetto public school classrooms where teachers pacify "good" classes with "movie day." And that audience will believe all of it.

    You remember having to watch Glory every year on one of those wheeled carts with a television and videocassette recorder strapped to it as well, huh?

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    This made me laugh, but Glory is actually a good movie.

    I hope even the worst teachers would not try to show Black Panther to their classes. I bet Hidden Figures will get that treatment, though.
    , @J.Ross
    I actually like all kinds of movies, it takes a lot for me to walk out. Say, Sandra Bullock.
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  157. @Dan Hayes
    prosa123:

    If anyone is thinking about visiting Bridgeport CT please be notified that it is in a neck-and-neck race with Camden NY as the worst-of-the-worst in the eastern US!

    Camden, New Jersey, home of 1983 Heisman Trophy winner Mike Rozier, is one of the garden-spots that makes New Jersey the Garden State.

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  158. @Dan Hayes
    prosa123:

    If anyone is thinking about visiting Bridgeport CT please be notified that it is in a neck-and-neck race with Camden NY as the worst-of-the-worst in the eastern US!

    If anyone is thinking about visiting Bridgeport CT please be notified that it is in a neck-and-neck race with Camden NY as the worst-of-the-worst in the eastern US!

    I assume you mean Camden, NJ, not NY.

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  159. @peterike
    Speaking of con artists, Mattress Girl is back, in various states of undress. Our future Jewish/Asian ruling class, ladies and gentlemen.

    https://news.artnet.com/art-world/emma-sulkowicz-performance-protest-1214429

    Emma Sulkowicz needs a personal trainer. I think she could market this whole thing better if she was just hotter. She’s carrying 30 extra pounds.

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    Remind me when this attention whore was hot.
    , @J.Ross
    Sure, sure, we just need to locate a fit guy with people skills (who therefore could do much better on his worst day) and also wants to be falsely accused of rape later on.
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  160. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Busby
    I remember that. Two things stand out. First, there was a popular poster of Fields playing cards in that ridiculously large top hat. Second, there was a tell all book (or maybe an unauthorized biography) written by a former lover or wife, that was condemned by Fields' family. Quite the controversy. I also remember that Fields' foe Mae West had a brief revival I think because she was in Myra Breckenridge.

    I also remember that Fields’ foe Mae West had a brief revival I think because she was in Myra Breckenridge.

    Right, replete with raunchy lines and a famous feud with Raquel Welch.

    The young Farrah Fawcett is also in the film.

    Three generations of sex bombs in one film, but they skipped a couple or more between West and Welch. There was the Veronica Lake era, the Marilyn Monroe era, you could consider the Kim Novak/Angie Dickinson era between them. By then MM was dead, Veronica Lake a burned out wreck slinging hash in New York and Angie doing network TV.

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  161. @Alden
    I’m 75 and I don’t like black and White movies either. I wish they'd colorize all the movies they show on TV

    I wish they’d colorize all the movies they show on TV

    They could at least finish colorizing The Wizard of Oz.

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  162. @BenKenobi
    Sorry to be so crude guys, but Love Actually was the gayest fuckin' shit ever.

    Note that the movie was criticized for a lack of gays and still pulled this off.

    “… was the gayest fuckin’ shit ever, …”

    “not that there’s anything wrong with that.”

    The (((Seinfeldian))) way of saying you’re not a homophobe.

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  163. @anon
    He's seeing it so none of the readers need to.

    Yes, anon, about 1/2 day later I did think “oh yeah, maybe Steve has to see it to write a review. It’s part of his work, so it’s understandable.” That explains his reading of the NY Times too, it’s just part of the job description – somebody’s gotta do it.

    It’s not like I’m gonna read the review anyway, but I’m sure lots of you on this thread will, and movies are one of Steve’s things. For me, I mostly have to go back to the mid-’90′s and earlier to find anything worth watching or talking/writing about.

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  164. @Dan Hayes
    prosa123:

    If anyone is thinking about visiting Bridgeport CT please be notified that it is in a neck-and-neck race with Camden NY as the worst-of-the-worst in the eastern US!

    “If anyone is thinking about visiting Bridgeport CT please be notified that it is in a neck-and-neck race with Camden NY as the worst-of-the-worst in the eastern US!”

    While there are many bad sections the downtown area has gotten much better in the last decade or so. It has more restaurants and nightlife, and is home to the ever-expanding headquarters of People’s Bank, one of the larger regional banks. It also benefits from being the terminal of the (scenic but overpriced, $70 one way for car and driver), Cross-Sound Ferry.

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  165. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Out of curiosity, do you rely on Trump to tell you what to eat for breakfast too?

    It's oddly Beta that you seem incapable of inventing insults of your own.

    Out of curiosity, do you rely on Trump to tell you what to eat for breakfast too?

    Ouch!

    It’s oddly Beta that you seem incapable of inventing insults of your own.

    Touché!

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  166. @Dan Hayes
    prosa123:

    If anyone is thinking about visiting Bridgeport CT please be notified that it is in a neck-and-neck race with Camden NY as the worst-of-the-worst in the eastern US!

    It’s nothing like Camden New Jersey. I would not go to Camden in a tank.

    Bridgeport is very different. The majority of it is crappy and Hispanic but not truly scary.

    The downtown area is really very nice.

    Unfortunately, we learned afterwards that there was a very picturesque area that we completely missed. I forget the name of it. I’ll try to look it up.

    Edit: well that was quick. It’s called Black Rock. I got it on citydata.com. a person asked for “Caucasian areas of Bridgeport” and was soundly criticized for the question.

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    "Unfortunately, we learned afterwards that there was a very picturesque area that we completely missed. I forget the name of it. I’ll try to look it up.
    Edit: well that was quick. It’s called Black Rock. I got it on citydata.com. a person asked for “Caucasian areas of Bridgeport” and was soundly criticized for the question."

    Black Rock residents identify with the neighboring town of Fairfield, which is very nice.
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  167. @Nigerian Nationalist
    Ohh come on, it's simple internet etiquette to link claims, saying "Google it" is an absurd dodge.

    Anyways I did--now the next person won't go through the trouble.

    NigerianNationalist. You’re internets skills are improving but you did reply to yourself. Keep plugging away.

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    An error made in a time of exhaustion.

    We shall not speak of it again.
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  168. OT, citydata.com would be a wonderful subject for an isteve post.

    How many ways can you dance around a blunt question?

    I wonder if the wording has become more direct since Trump’s election?

    The person who asked about Caucasian neighborhoods asked it in 2013.

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  169. @Autochthon
    You remember having to watch Glory every year on one of those wheeled carts with a television and videocassette recorder strapped to it as well, huh?

    This made me laugh, but Glory is actually a good movie.

    I hope even the worst teachers would not try to show Black Panther to their classes. I bet Hidden Figures will get that treatment, though.

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    I know of one middle school who closed on a school day to take the entire student body to see Hidden Figures.
    , @Alden
    Glory is an excellent standard war movie. I loved the part where a column of Yankees are ambushed by confederates yipping the rebel yell.
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  170. @TheJester
    23&Me says that I have more Neanderthal genes than 94% of their customers. Black Africans have no Neanderthal genes ... ergo, this proves we did not all "come out of Africa".

    Those of us from Northern and Western Europe related to the Neaderthals are different in kind from the sub-Saharan Black Africans. Maybe that's the difference. I'll account my White-Skinned Green-Eyed Privilege and life's accomplishments to this difference.

    Your reasoning seems to be defective. The standard narrative today is that two groups that had evolved in Africa to become Anatomically Modern Humans (AMH) – that means that they had developed the gracile (long thin extremities) bodies that all human now have, then walked out of Africa. The ones that walked to the west met the robust Neanderthals, and those that went more toward the east met the Denisovans. These two species interbred with the African travelers and contributed a few percent to the resulting human genome.

    The Africans who did not walk north have no Neanderthal or Denisovans genes. It is true that the stay at home Africans are less intelligent than the Europeans or Asians that went north but that is probably not from the gene admixture. Most anthropologists believe that the more northerly climes led to bigger, better brains.

    I expect that with new discoveries this picture will be modified but to date this is the consensus picture of human evolution.

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    It is true that the stay at home Africans are less intelligent than the Europeans or Asians that went north but that is probably not from the gene admixture. Most anthropologists believe that the more northerly climes led to bigger, better brains.
     
    Could Interbreeding Between Humans and Neanderthals Have Led to an Enhanced Human Brain?

    Neanderthal-Derived Genetic Variation Shapes Modern Human Cranium and Brain

    There are plenty more.
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  171. @Dave from Oz
    "Analysis of that DNA seems to clearly and unequivocally show that the ancient Egyptians were descended from Caucasians from the Levant not black negroes from sub-Saharan Africa."

    The ancient egyptians *that could afford to be mummified*. And wasn't Cleopatra basically greek?

    There are plenty of mummies, and of course Cleopatra (Cleopatra VII) was Greek (or rather Macedonian). The idea that Cleopatra was black is crazier than the flying pyramids notion.

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  172. @Bill Jones
    I have always assumed Tiny Dick was satire. Didn't you?

    Yup.

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  173. @BenKenobi
    Sorry to be so crude guys, but Love Actually was the gayest fuckin' shit ever.

    Note that the movie was criticized for a lack of gays and still pulled this off.

    Sorry to be so crude guys, but Love Actually was the gayest fuckin’ shit ever.

    Women love that movie. I thought it was retarded.

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  174. @anonymous
    Emma Sulkowicz needs a personal trainer. I think she could market this whole thing better if she was just hotter. She’s carrying 30 extra pounds.

    Remind me when this attention whore was hot.

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  176. “…the $3 Theater, which is now the $3.50 Theater due to the success of Trumponomics,…”

    Policies have unintended consequences, even good policies. It’s always disappointing to hear politicians sell their ideas that only result in more rainbows without any more rain. You can’t make good decisions without considering the potential negatives. American voters are like children in that any hint of a negative effect of a policy makes it a bad one in their mind. Adults weigh both sides of the leger and make decisions on the balance.

    With reduced immigration and restrictions on imports, the cost of labor will rise, which will lead to inflation. No more dollar menu at mickeydees. The increase in jobs and wages for American workers, along with all the positive externalities of people working, instead of goldbricking on disability, will make it worth it.

    I believe Trump is making an implicit bargain with corporate America. Lower taxes, but some of that refund has to go into wages.

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  177. @anonymous
    wwebd said:
    peterike - speaking as a human to a human - stop liking "dumb super hero movies".

    The people who make those movies - with an exception or two - absolutely do not like you.

    I say that, not knowing if you are an average commenter here (average cynical American) or one of the weird unthinkingly anti-Jewish or anti-Christian posters (if you are, repent, my young friend - start with a reading of one of the shorter gospels), or one of the otherwise weird posters who think that they have found sort of a home here because Steve Sailer is not easily fooled, or pretends not to be. Well we all need to independently decide not to be fooled. Poor Tiny Duck and mostly clueless Whiskey may, some day, decide not to he fooled --- today is not that day.

    Life is short and there are thousands, infinitely thousands of more interesting things than dumb super hero movies.

    Even Heath Ledger would agree, he really really tried hard to take a dumb super hero movie seriously. Look where it got him.

    The people who made the Poseidon Adventure tried to make a movie where people care about each other. No superheroes in that movie.


    larrylurker - life is short and not a lot of our contemporaries are talented, no matter how much information they put out, and not that many more of our parents' and grandparents' contemporaries are talented either. I don't appreciate the laziness of those people with the talent to colorize old black and white movies who refuse to do it, but there is a lot of comedy that is not otherwise available that you miss if you don't watch black and white movies. Don't miss out if you don;t have to.

    W.C. Fields was a genius. If he owed me money I would not expect him to pay it back, and I would not let him date my sister or my daughter, but he did know how to make people laugh. How many people have done as much?

    The people who made the Poseidon Adventure tried to make a movie where people care about each other.

    Crap film

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    not the Borgnine scenes
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  178. @Pat Boyle
    Your reasoning seems to be defective. The standard narrative today is that two groups that had evolved in Africa to become Anatomically Modern Humans (AMH) - that means that they had developed the gracile (long thin extremities) bodies that all human now have, then walked out of Africa. The ones that walked to the west met the robust Neanderthals, and those that went more toward the east met the Denisovans. These two species interbred with the African travelers and contributed a few percent to the resulting human genome.

    The Africans who did not walk north have no Neanderthal or Denisovans genes. It is true that the stay at home Africans are less intelligent than the Europeans or Asians that went north but that is probably not from the gene admixture. Most anthropologists believe that the more northerly climes led to bigger, better brains.

    I expect that with new discoveries this picture will be modified but to date this is the consensus picture of human evolution.

    It is true that the stay at home Africans are less intelligent than the Europeans or Asians that went north but that is probably not from the gene admixture. Most anthropologists believe that the more northerly climes led to bigger, better brains.

    Could Interbreeding Between Humans and Neanderthals Have Led to an Enhanced Human Brain?

    Neanderthal-Derived Genetic Variation Shapes Modern Human Cranium and Brain

    There are plenty more.

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    Thank you very much. It looks like I was wrong. Please feel free to point out to me any other mistakes that I have made.
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  179. @anonymous
    Emma Sulkowicz needs a personal trainer. I think she could market this whole thing better if she was just hotter. She’s carrying 30 extra pounds.

    Sure, sure, we just need to locate a fit guy with people skills (who therefore could do much better on his worst day) and also wants to be falsely accused of rape later on.

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  180. @Autochthon
    You remember having to watch Glory every year on one of those wheeled carts with a television and videocassette recorder strapped to it as well, huh?

    I actually like all kinds of movies, it takes a lot for me to walk out. Say, Sandra Bullock.

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  181. @anonymous
    NigerianNationalist. You’re internets skills are improving but you did reply to yourself. Keep plugging away.

    An error made in a time of exhaustion.

    We shall not speak of it again.

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  182. @Whoever

    It is true that the stay at home Africans are less intelligent than the Europeans or Asians that went north but that is probably not from the gene admixture. Most anthropologists believe that the more northerly climes led to bigger, better brains.
     
    Could Interbreeding Between Humans and Neanderthals Have Led to an Enhanced Human Brain?

    Neanderthal-Derived Genetic Variation Shapes Modern Human Cranium and Brain

    There are plenty more.

    Thank you very much. It looks like I was wrong. Please feel free to point out to me any other mistakes that I have made.

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  183. @Obsessive Contrarian
    It's nothing like Camden New Jersey. I would not go to Camden in a tank.

    Bridgeport is very different. The majority of it is crappy and Hispanic but not truly scary.

    The downtown area is really very nice.

    Unfortunately, we learned afterwards that there was a very picturesque area that we completely missed. I forget the name of it. I'll try to look it up.

    Edit: well that was quick. It's called Black Rock. I got it on citydata.com. a person asked for "Caucasian areas of Bridgeport" and was soundly criticized for the question.

    “Unfortunately, we learned afterwards that there was a very picturesque area that we completely missed. I forget the name of it. I’ll try to look it up.
    Edit: well that was quick. It’s called Black Rock. I got it on citydata.com. a person asked for “Caucasian areas of Bridgeport” and was soundly criticized for the question.”

    Black Rock residents identify with the neighboring town of Fairfield, which is very nice.

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    I had no idea that Bridgeport is part of Fairfield County. I was further embarrassed to find out that it was the county seat when CT had county government.
    , @Obsessive Contrarian
    My obsessive contrarian side wishes that the government would stick a Section-8 or refugee bomb in Black Rock, and see how the home owners of that picturesque enclave on the LI Sound react.

    My civilized side says: Please God, keep it as it is.

    So far, my civilized side is winning, but if I hear anything rude from one of them, I'll switch teams.

    I'm thinking of going back to see it, and the Barnum Museum!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rock,_Bridgeport
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  184. @syonredux

    The people who made the Poseidon Adventure tried to make a movie where people care about each other.
     
    Crap film

    not the Borgnine scenes

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    not the Borgnine scenes
     
    Ernest Borgnine was always solid.
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  185. @James Kabala
    This made me laugh, but Glory is actually a good movie.

    I hope even the worst teachers would not try to show Black Panther to their classes. I bet Hidden Figures will get that treatment, though.

    I know of one middle school who closed on a school day to take the entire student body to see Hidden Figures.

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  186. @prosa123
    "Unfortunately, we learned afterwards that there was a very picturesque area that we completely missed. I forget the name of it. I’ll try to look it up.
    Edit: well that was quick. It’s called Black Rock. I got it on citydata.com. a person asked for “Caucasian areas of Bridgeport” and was soundly criticized for the question."

    Black Rock residents identify with the neighboring town of Fairfield, which is very nice.

    I had no idea that Bridgeport is part of Fairfield County. I was further embarrassed to find out that it was the county seat when CT had county government.

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  187. @James Kabala
    This made me laugh, but Glory is actually a good movie.

    I hope even the worst teachers would not try to show Black Panther to their classes. I bet Hidden Figures will get that treatment, though.

    Glory is an excellent standard war movie. I loved the part where a column of Yankees are ambushed by confederates yipping the rebel yell.

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  188. @Tiny Duck
    Saw Black Panther

    Just unreal

    Unlike most superheroes, Black Panther resonates with wider political and cultural hues. He is a genius level billionaire, expert at hand-to-hand combat and has vowed to keep his nation Wakanda safe and to fight crime. Guess, which other superhero has such similarities -- none other than Batman. Unlike Batman, whose front is that of a rich, spoilt playboy, Black Panther is a responsible leader of his men.

    The comic gave hope to a sort of an African utopia -- a country which was never colonised and has superior technology to everyone else and where the citizens live in close proximity with nature. The film stays faithful to that myth, building on to it and asking some hard-hitting, real world questions related to race and identity.

    The villain Killmonger is a complex character. He wants to end oppression to Black people for ever.

    The film is a technical marvel. The score, at once modern but having its core in African rhythms, adds to its charms.

    A film cast made almost entirely of black actors and directed by a black man, carrying a powerful political message and being hugely entertaining to boot -- Marvel has clicked all the right boxes and says "Not today" to Drumpf's false traitorous America. Who would have thought superhero film could fuel ideologies and challenge set norms? Wonder Woman did it for women and now Black Panther is doing it again for People of Color -- times surely are changing indeed...

    As plus all these white tears are delicious!

    What a body on Chadwick Boseman! No wonder white girls are increasingly giving their love to Men of Color! Michael B. Jordan is quite the specimen as well.

    I’m beginning to think your posts are satire TD

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  189. @The Anti-Gnostic
    I once read that after he started moving up in the world, Fields would open a bank account in whichever city he was working and deposit some money. Growing up in poverty, he remained terrified of being stranded in another town and not having any cash. At his death nobody had any idea how many accounts there were or where.

    Sounds like James Brown’s financial management strategy: hide money all over the place. His heirs are still battling about a dozen years after his death.

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  190. @Jonathan Mason

    Astaire and Kelly succeeded because they could ACT a song. They sang in character, just as they danced in character, though their singing technique wasn’t even close to their dancing technique.
     
    Astaire was not a bad singer. The late career album Fred Astaire sings, recorded with the Oscar Peterson trio is a nice listen.

    I LIKE Kelly's singing, especially in wet weather. I think perhaps his singing grows on you, but he was perhaps more of a live stage vocal performer than a recording artist.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCSUsF_YEe0

    They do not make 'em like that any more.

    I have a set of tapes of classic American songs of 1920-1960. They use a lot of Fred Astaire recordings because you can get them cheap compared to Sinatra recordings. While Astaire wasn’t as good of a singer as Sinatra, he had really good rhythm. Astaire was about as good of a singer as Sinatra was a dancer in the 1940s (“On the Town”), which is quite good. An awful lot of the performing arts (singing, dancing, comedy) is having a sense of rhythm, which both Astaire and Sinatra had.

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    I think you may be wrong about Sinatra's dancing. Most of Sinatra's reputation as a dancer rest on that one scene in "Anchor's Aweigh" where he dances a duet with Kelly in the barracks and on the bunks.

    Sinatra is very good in that scene and certainly looks like an accomplished dancer, but I don't think he made any (or many) more like that again. Those few minutes of celluloid took 72 takes and eight weeks to film. Sinatra seemed to be bitter about Kelly's requirements and never did anything like that again.

    If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will correct me.
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  191. @Jonathan Mason
    I saw this movie with my kids at New Year. It was not bad, or at least less bad than most movies these days and at least the political correctness was only a minor theme and there was no buggery.

    Not much historical accuracy, and no great songs, but at least it was mildly entertaining, inoffensive and had some good dance numbers which the kids enjoyed.

    An explanation for circuses operating in a tented Big Top was offered, as apparently when Barnum's building burned down, a big tent near the docks was an economical alternative.

    Hugh Jackman was sporting some strange-looking teeth. Zac Efron has grown rather fat. The women were nondescript.

    Sadly, musical movies and probably movies in general are a dying entertainment form that relies more and more on gimmicks. Frozen (2013) was probably the last really decent family entertainment movie.

    Alternatively, movie musicals might make a comeback because Broadway musicals are making a lot of profit these days. But famous musicals tend to be too sophisticated for the core audience, which is families with tween-age daughters, so this movie’s strategy of becoming a stage hit by being a movie first might prove really smart.

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  192. @Pat Boyle
    I was just about to rise up in massive indignation to point out that - No, W.C. Fields was not forgotten but rather that he was the center of a film appreciation class I took at San Francisco State.

    But then I realized that that film class - still green in my memory - was from 1968. That was only about thirty years after the Fields films had been released but a full half century ago now.

    So maybe Fields is forgotten now. It's hard to keep up.

    W.C. Fields was huge in the 1960s and 1970s, much like the Marx Brothers and Humphrey Bogart.

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    Indeed he was. I was at San Francisco State in the sixties and I took film classes. Good days.

    Fields was worshipped. The Experimental University movement was underway. The students ran the school in theory and students chose the subject matter of the classes. There was a certain innocence that is now lost. The Black Student's Union was just beginning to assert its power. This of course led to the strike and the riots. But before the racial politics took over there was this goofy period when the curricula was set in part by whatever any student felt like teaching.

    I had a buddy in the film department who taught a class called "A Study in Lyricism". His class was to show old Hollywood Westerns. I remember seeing "Run of the Arrow". Rod Steiger played a Southern soldier of the Civil War who becomes an Indian. So we had this stout white guy running around dressed up like an Indian brave. It was surreal - the perfect movie for San Francisco in the sixties.
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  193. @Busby
    Fields hasn't aged well. Ironic. He was a very big star. So big he was able to negotiate creative control of his films. He was also very methodical in writing and developing his material. Plus he was very physically talented. Of course he was also a major league alcoholic.
    I've enjoyed him for years, though i do not share the popular opinion that The Bank Dick is the best film.
    On a related note...
    I worked with a youngish 30 something guy who had no familiarity with The Marx Brothers, the 3 Stooges and Abbot and Costello. The reason? "I don't watch black and white movies."

    Young people don’t watch black and white movies.

    What Field’s movie is better than The Bank Dick?

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    One of NPR's film reviewers, David Edelstein, did a short series where he had his Millennial intern (or some such person) watch old movies and report back on what he thought. Each time, the intern's whole frame was how "problematic" the movies were. His review of Casablanca was basically, "I expected it to be very problematic, given that it takes place in Africa and centers the white experience. I thought Sam was a bit of a minstrel show, but all in all, the movie was less problematic than I had imagined."

    Gone With the Wind will be removed from AFI's top 10 spot before long. I'm surprised it hasn't already been nixed.

    , @Jefferson
    "Young people don’t watch black and white movies."

    Also most young people today think any movie that is not loaded with CGI and is more dialogue driven is boring as hell. That could be due to the fact that young Americans are becoming increasingly Black/Brown and thus have shorter attention spans.

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  194. @prosa123
    "Unfortunately, we learned afterwards that there was a very picturesque area that we completely missed. I forget the name of it. I’ll try to look it up.
    Edit: well that was quick. It’s called Black Rock. I got it on citydata.com. a person asked for “Caucasian areas of Bridgeport” and was soundly criticized for the question."

    Black Rock residents identify with the neighboring town of Fairfield, which is very nice.

    My obsessive contrarian side wishes that the government would stick a Section-8 or refugee bomb in Black Rock, and see how the home owners of that picturesque enclave on the LI Sound react.

    My civilized side says: Please God, keep it as it is.

    So far, my civilized side is winning, but if I hear anything rude from one of them, I’ll switch teams.

    I’m thinking of going back to see it, and the Barnum Museum!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rock,_Bridgeport

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  195. @Steve Sailer
    I have a set of tapes of classic American songs of 1920-1960. They use a lot of Fred Astaire recordings because you can get them cheap compared to Sinatra recordings. While Astaire wasn't as good of a singer as Sinatra, he had really good rhythm. Astaire was about as good of a singer as Sinatra was a dancer in the 1940s ("On the Town"), which is quite good. An awful lot of the performing arts (singing, dancing, comedy) is having a sense of rhythm, which both Astaire and Sinatra had.

    I think you may be wrong about Sinatra’s dancing. Most of Sinatra’s reputation as a dancer rest on that one scene in “Anchor’s Aweigh” where he dances a duet with Kelly in the barracks and on the bunks.

    Sinatra is very good in that scene and certainly looks like an accomplished dancer, but I don’t think he made any (or many) more like that again. Those few minutes of celluloid took 72 takes and eight weeks to film. Sinatra seemed to be bitter about Kelly’s requirements and never did anything like that again.

    If I’m wrong I’m sure someone will correct me.

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  196. @Steve Sailer
    W.C. Fields was huge in the 1960s and 1970s, much like the Marx Brothers and Humphrey Bogart.

    Indeed he was. I was at San Francisco State in the sixties and I took film classes. Good days.

    Fields was worshipped. The Experimental University movement was underway. The students ran the school in theory and students chose the subject matter of the classes. There was a certain innocence that is now lost. The Black Student’s Union was just beginning to assert its power. This of course led to the strike and the riots. But before the racial politics took over there was this goofy period when the curricula was set in part by whatever any student felt like teaching.

    I had a buddy in the film department who taught a class called “A Study in Lyricism”. His class was to show old Hollywood Westerns. I remember seeing “Run of the Arrow”. Rod Steiger played a Southern soldier of the Civil War who becomes an Indian. So we had this stout white guy running around dressed up like an Indian brave. It was surreal – the perfect movie for San Francisco in the sixties.

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  197. @anonymous
    not the Borgnine scenes

    not the Borgnine scenes

    Ernest Borgnine was always solid.

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  198. @Steve Sailer
    Young people don't watch black and white movies.

    What Field's movie is better than The Bank Dick?

    One of NPR’s film reviewers, David Edelstein, did a short series where he had his Millennial intern (or some such person) watch old movies and report back on what he thought. Each time, the intern’s whole frame was how “problematic” the movies were. His review of Casablanca was basically, “I expected it to be very problematic, given that it takes place in Africa and centers the white experience. I thought Sam was a bit of a minstrel show, but all in all, the movie was less problematic than I had imagined.”

    Gone With the Wind will be removed from AFI’s top 10 spot before long. I’m surprised it hasn’t already been nixed.

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    The term “problematic” just sounds so Orwellian and political commissarish to me. Yet I’ve seen liberals use it on Twitter without shame or irony.
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  199. @YIH
    There are now six negative reviews for Black Jesus, err, Panther. Putting it at 97%/77% on Rotten Tomatoes. Below The Godfather (1972) @98/98 but above Gone With The Wind @93/93.
    More evidence that like children and those with Down's Syndrome, Africans must be praised vastly above their accomplishments outside of sports even if they're not really accomplishments.
    Is Black Panther in the same league as The Godfather or Gone With The Wind? If the cast were White, of course not (the negative reviews I've seen put it in the lower tier of Marvel comic book movies along with The Hulk). But it has a mostly African cast and because it was released in Black ''History'' Month, these ''permanent children'' must be praised just like when your kid draws the outline of their hand and some squiggles as a picture of a turkey.
    Now I don't hate them, I just believe they should be treated like small children or those with Down's Syndrome. IOW they can't be equal to adult Whites because they aren't capable of it.
    Look at Baltimore, Detroit, Haiti - or increasingly, South Africa. Africans are Africans wherever on Earth they are.

    “More evidence that like children and those with Down’s Syndrome,”

    Down Syndrome people are more pleasant to hang out with than a militant hate Whitey Black social justice warrior who believes Wakanda is as non fictional as Ancient Rome was.

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  200. @Steve Sailer
    Young people don't watch black and white movies.

    What Field's movie is better than The Bank Dick?

    “Young people don’t watch black and white movies.”

    Also most young people today think any movie that is not loaded with CGI and is more dialogue driven is boring as hell. That could be due to the fact that young Americans are becoming increasingly Black/Brown and thus have shorter attention spans.

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  201. “House Party starting LeBron James.”

    LeBron James in House Party? In the original the character still lives with his father. LeBron is 34, so is LeBron’s character a loser in his 30s who never left the nest?

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  202. @Obsessive Contrarian
    I look forward to your review of Black Panther. For now we must content ourselves with the user reviews of IMDB, which are not great.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1825683/reviews?ref_=tt_ql_3

    " Disappointing, great potential and I really, really wanted to like it but... I didn't."

    "TL;DR - Great visuals, week story, predictable plot, not very exiting villain." [cut & pasted w/misspellings)

    "If I were able to post a one or two word review, it would either be agenda or uncanny valley. Everything I feared this film would do, it did. Indeed in a couple of places it even referred to the (*spoilers*?) the slave trade! Seriously? In the 21st century you are going to refer at least twice in the same film to the slave trade - which BTW if you follow the film's premise would NOT have affected Wakanda as they were cut off from the rest of the world!"

    "The main character of the film is T'Chala - a character so depressingly dour and serious, he could be a candidate for depression"

    "The story is like any other superhero film story. The Wakanda aspect of the film is great. The technology used in the film is good. But there are a lot of clichés that kinda ruin the film. The acting is okay. Chadwick Boseman performs the best. Lupita Nyong'o, Martin Freeman, Danai Gurira, and Forest Whitaker perform below standard. Michael B. Jordan plays a generic and clichéd villain. He performs the worst."

    And so on. Read the whole thing.

    I haven't seen it but I doubt it's a bad movie. The technology alone ensures that it will be a professional, slick product. People who like that sort of thing will find that's the sort of thing they like. Good for them.

    The real deal is the bottom line. They cannot hype their way to huge box office. The bar is simply too high. China proved with the Last Jedi that you can't force Chinese audiences to see social justice pablum.

    “Michael B. Jordan plays a generic and clichéd villain. He performs the worst.”

    Michael B. Jordan is not used to playing a villain, before The Black Panther he always played The Magic Negro with zero Human flaws who are always pure and good. He is the male version of Octavia Spencer when it comes to acting.

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  203. @Seth Largo
    One of NPR's film reviewers, David Edelstein, did a short series where he had his Millennial intern (or some such person) watch old movies and report back on what he thought. Each time, the intern's whole frame was how "problematic" the movies were. His review of Casablanca was basically, "I expected it to be very problematic, given that it takes place in Africa and centers the white experience. I thought Sam was a bit of a minstrel show, but all in all, the movie was less problematic than I had imagined."

    Gone With the Wind will be removed from AFI's top 10 spot before long. I'm surprised it hasn't already been nixed.

    The term “problematic” just sounds so Orwellian and political commissarish to me. Yet I’ve seen liberals use it on Twitter without shame or irony.

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    I never use the word "problematic". It is overwrought. It looks to me like a word that shrinks and social worker types popularized. Similar to the word "inappropriate", which definitely is one. I will be glad when the abused words "inappropriate" and "passionate" are removed from the English language.
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  204. @Tiny Duck
    Saw Black Panther

    Just unreal

    Unlike most superheroes, Black Panther resonates with wider political and cultural hues. He is a genius level billionaire, expert at hand-to-hand combat and has vowed to keep his nation Wakanda safe and to fight crime. Guess, which other superhero has such similarities -- none other than Batman. Unlike Batman, whose front is that of a rich, spoilt playboy, Black Panther is a responsible leader of his men.

    The comic gave hope to a sort of an African utopia -- a country which was never colonised and has superior technology to everyone else and where the citizens live in close proximity with nature. The film stays faithful to that myth, building on to it and asking some hard-hitting, real world questions related to race and identity.

    The villain Killmonger is a complex character. He wants to end oppression to Black people for ever.

    The film is a technical marvel. The score, at once modern but having its core in African rhythms, adds to its charms.

    A film cast made almost entirely of black actors and directed by a black man, carrying a powerful political message and being hugely entertaining to boot -- Marvel has clicked all the right boxes and says "Not today" to Drumpf's false traitorous America. Who would have thought superhero film could fuel ideologies and challenge set norms? Wonder Woman did it for women and now Black Panther is doing it again for People of Color -- times surely are changing indeed...

    As plus all these white tears are delicious!

    What a body on Chadwick Boseman! No wonder white girls are increasingly giving their love to Men of Color! Michael B. Jordan is quite the specimen as well.

    Most of your post is copy and paste pastiche from a few sources. What it looks like to me, and this is not the first time you have lifted other people’s words. Like MLK.

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  205. @Corn
    The term “problematic” just sounds so Orwellian and political commissarish to me. Yet I’ve seen liberals use it on Twitter without shame or irony.

    I never use the word “problematic”. It is overwrought. It looks to me like a word that shrinks and social worker types popularized. Similar to the word “inappropriate”, which definitely is one. I will be glad when the abused words “inappropriate” and “passionate” are removed from the English language.

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  206. @YIH
    There are now six negative reviews for Black Jesus, err, Panther. Putting it at 97%/77% on Rotten Tomatoes. Below The Godfather (1972) @98/98 but above Gone With The Wind @93/93.
    More evidence that like children and those with Down's Syndrome, Africans must be praised vastly above their accomplishments outside of sports even if they're not really accomplishments.
    Is Black Panther in the same league as The Godfather or Gone With The Wind? If the cast were White, of course not (the negative reviews I've seen put it in the lower tier of Marvel comic book movies along with The Hulk). But it has a mostly African cast and because it was released in Black ''History'' Month, these ''permanent children'' must be praised just like when your kid draws the outline of their hand and some squiggles as a picture of a turkey.
    Now I don't hate them, I just believe they should be treated like small children or those with Down's Syndrome. IOW they can't be equal to adult Whites because they aren't capable of it.
    Look at Baltimore, Detroit, Haiti - or increasingly, South Africa. Africans are Africans wherever on Earth they are.

    The worst part about Blacks is that they hate you and make no efforts to hide it, even the “talented tenth”.

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  207. @anon
    i got about halfway through that effluvium before asking myself: why do i care what someone called pankaj mishra has to say about the american experience?

    for all his faults, at least poor ta-nehisi has an anglo-american (can i say that?) last name...

    I thought this was a nice touch

    ” The Atlantic’s Robert Kaplan cheerfully reported that ‘Welcome to Injun Country’ was the refrain among American soldiers worldwide. The primal blood-lusts of the war on terror survived Obama’s renaming of it. The Seal Team that in 2011 eventually scalped Osama bin Laden (code-named Geronimo) carried 14-inch hatchets made by a North Carolina knife-maker known for his blades in the 1992 film The Last of the Mohicans. “

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  208. If white-audience deficit drops BP through box office floor second weekend out, will we be racist more?

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  209. @Pat Boyle
    I see that they have just this month extracted DNA from some Egyptian mummy teeth. Analysis of that DNA seems to clearly and unequivocally show that the ancient Egyptians were descended from Caucasians from the Levant not black negroes from sub-Saharan Africa.

    So one of the pillars of the Black Athena (We wuz Kangz) movement that underlies the idea of Wakanda and the movie "Black Panther" has been knocked out in unambiguous terms. Maybe all this silliness will now die down.

    Die down? Fat chance. SJWs always double down (pace Vox Day).

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  210. @anon
    Joe E. Brown is the most forgotten of the old comedy stars.

    Mme B and I saw him just the other night in a c. 1935 “Midsummer Night’s Dream”. He played one of the Rude Mechanicals and Thisbe. Cagney as Bottom. Mickey Rooney as Puck. I’m not sure that color would have enhanced it much.

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