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Theranos: The Elizabeth Holmes Reality Distortion Field

I had only been vaguely aware of the Elizabeth Holmes saga until recently. My impression from all the magazine covers had been that the celebrated Silicon Valley startup foundrix had invented some revolutionary disruptive new method for testing blood and made the Forbes 400 off her invention.

Back in 2014, this high tech startup’s board of directors was … remarkable. From Fortune:

Little known and privately held, Theranos has assembled what may be, in terms of public service, the most illustrious board in U.S. corporate history. It includes three former U.S. cabinet secretaries, two former U.S. senators, a retired Navy admiral and a retired Marine Corps general.

In 2011, explains company founder Elizabeth Holmes, she realized that changing the way health care is delivered in this country would require the help of great strategists.

That July she finagled an introduction to George Shultz (above), the former Secretary of State, Treasury, and Labor, at Stanford’s Hoover Institution. Shultz had held four cabinet-level positions, counting his stint as director of the Office of Management and Budget, and had also been president of engineering giant Bechtel Group and a director at biopharmaceutical company Gilead Sciences. …

Schultz, Holmes, the late Lee Kwan Yew

Three years later nearly all the other outside directors on Theranos’s board are people who were introduced to the company through Shultz, now 93. They are former Secretary of Defense Bill Perry, former Secretary of State and National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger, former U.S. Senators Sam Nunn and Bill Frist (a heart-transplant surgeon), retired U.S. Navy Adm. Gary Roughead, retired U.S. Marine Corp Gen. James Mattis, former Wells Fargo CEO and chairman Dick Kovacevich, and former Bechtel Group CEO Riley Bechtel.

Why isn’t Prince Bandar on her board?

This sounds a lot like that Strategic Advisory Board for Genie Oil and Gas, which is drilling in the Golan Heights: Dick Cheney, Rupert Murdoch, Bill Richardson, Mary Landrieu, Lord Rothschild, Jim Woolsey, and Larry Summers.

This sounds like a good data mining project for moneyballing investors: which famous name on boards is most often associated with firms with something to hide? Can you detect patterns of board membership that have predictive value?

Maybe statistics would suggest that adding superlawyer David Boies to your Board isn’t a good sign?

David Boies – Director
David Boies is the Chairman of Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP, an internationally recognized trial lawyer, legal advisor and counselor to boards of directors. Mr. Boies served as Special Trial Counsel for the United States Department of Justice in its antitrust suit against Microsoft; lead counsel for former Vice-President Al Gore in connection with litigation relating to the 2000 Florida vote count; and as co-lead counsel for the plaintiffs in Perry v. Brown, which established for the first time the federal constitutional right for gay and lesbian citizens to marry.

From the WSJ just after Christmas:

At Theranos, Many Strategies and Snags
Elizabeth Holmes’s blood-testing ambition has long collided with technological problems

By John Carreyrou

The night before a big meeting with a Swiss drug company in 2008, Theranos Inc. founder Elizabeth Holmes and a colleague sat in a Zurich hotel, sticking their fingers with a lancet.

They drew drops of their own blood to try the company’s testing machine, but the devices wouldn’t work, says someone familiar with the incident. Sometimes the results were obviously too high. Sometimes they were too low. Sometimes the machines spit out only an error message.

After two hours, the colleague called it quits, leaving Ms. Holmes still squeezing blood from her fingers to test it again.

Ever since she launched Theranos in 2003 when she was 19 years old and dropped out of Stanford University, Ms. Holmes has been driven by ambition that is big even by Silicon Valley standards. Instead of a smartphone app to hail a car or order food, she wants to revolutionize health care with a vast range of diagnostic tests run with a few drops of finger-pricked blood.

Now 31, Ms. Holmes has emphasized a variety of strategies—a hand-held device, tests for drugmakers, drugstore clinics—while trying to turn her dream into a business. She often has collided with technological problems, according to interviews with more than 20 former Theranos employees, company emails and complaints filed with federal regulators.

In Switzerland, she went ahead and pricked her finger in front of a group of Novartis AG executives at the meeting the next day, testing for a protein that measures inflammation, says the person familiar with the incident.

All three of her Theranos devices flickered with error messages, the person says. Ms. Holmes was unfazed, blamed a minor technical glitch and continued to pitch the vast potential of her technology.

At the WSJDLive 2015 conference, Theranos founder and CEO Elizabeth Holmes discusses her company’s proprietary technologies, the FDA’s inspection of its facilities and the assertion that Theranos was too quick to market its products.

Ms. Holmes and several current or former Theranos directors declined interview requests. A spokeswoman for Theranos, Brooke Buchanan, says Ms. Holmes recalls only one machine with an error message, because someone tripped over the cord. A second machine ran perfectly, and the third wasn’t used, the spokeswoman says. A Novartis spokeswoman wouldn’t comment.

Since a Wall Street Journal article in October, Ms. Holmes has defended the Palo Alto, Calif., company’s laboratory work and promised to publish data proving the accuracy of its more than 240 tests, ranging from pregnancy to diabetes.

She said earlier this month that customer volume was higher than ever. The company has said it performed millions of tests, with highly positive feedback.

For now, though, Theranos has stopped collecting tiny samples of blood from patients’ fingers for all but one of its tests while it waits for the Food and Drug Administration to review the company’s applications for wider use of the small proprietary vials called “nanotainers.” As a result, Theranos is using traditional lab machines for most of its tests.

But it turns out that back in 2003 she only came up with the idea that it would be awesome to invent some revolutionary new method for testing blood that wouldn’t require a big needle. (Getting rich off a replacement for the needle isn’t a wholly original idea, either. In the 2000 movie Boiler Room, a fictionalized version of The Wolf of Wall Street shenanigans, the boys are pushing a penny stock firm said to have invented a replacement for the hypodermic needle.)

The various devices that Theranos’s engineers have come up with since then evidently haven’t worked well enough to get FDA approval, so Theranos has apparently been using its large sums of investor money to have the blood tests it does at drug stores processed the old-fashioned way. (And / or deliver not very reliable results.)

This kind of fake-it-until-you-make-it strategy is hardly unknown. I suspect numerous successful companies went through just such a ploy of promising a revolutionary cheaper technology and then delivering on contracts using an expensive old fashioned technology until making the new tech work.

Of course, so did lots of ultimately unsuccessful companies.

It’s also not uncommon in Silicon Valley for entrepreneurs who are funded for their original idea to get repurposed into working on something else when the original idea proves a dud, but the investors still like the founders’ personalities.

Obviously, she’s good at impressing important men. That’s a remunerative skill, even without being an inventor. The interesting question is why didn’t she get redirected away from a field, biotechnology, in which she had no particular technical skills to one in which her abundant people skills would be useful?

But perhaps the Elizabeth Holmes’ reality distortion field was so strong that all the venture capitalists and famous board members backing her never noticed that she actually wasn’t a genius biotech inventor? Or did it have something to do with everybody who was anybody getting too invested in the idea that it was time for Silicon Valley to have a female Steve Jobs (she wears black turtlenecks like Jobs) to notice?

P.S., Back in October, Holmes was named to the Board of Trustees of the Center for Strategic & International Studies:

CSIS Names 9 New Members to its Board of Trustees
OCT 1, 2015
WASHINGTON, October 1, 2015—The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) is pleased to announce that Erskine Bowles [Clinton Administration chief of staff], William Daley [Obama chief of staff], Stanley Druckenmiller [formerly Soros Management Fund], Martin Edelman [real estate legal rainmaker active in Persian Gulf gigadeals], Elizabeth Holmes, Ronald Kirk [black mayor of Dallas, US Trade Rep], Leon Panetta [got Osama as CIA boss, then Sec of Def], Bob Schieffer [Face the Nation], and Frances Townsend [chair of Homeland Security Council under Bush] have joined the CSIS Board of Trustees.

 
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  1. I just want to let everyone know that for a short period of time, I am changing my name to the Squire of Gothos.

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  2. Return of Kings posted about Holmes and her pseudo-startup the other day:

    Is Theranos A Girl-Powered Scam?

    http://www.returnofkings.com/76246/is-theranos-a-girl-powered-scam

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    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    Yeah, well, ROK posted the article to make an entirely different point, serving an entirely different agenda. That's what ROK is, after all. Their interest is crybaby, look at that woman billionaire, it's unfair and perhaps that's the truth, or a grain therein, but Holmes is a puppethead blond, a moron and everyone knew it. And she didn't need Chinese to sell tech in Singapore, why the hell is that relevant? She was a front, a moron dropout. She couldn't study STEM at Stanford, she's an idiot, that's why she dropped out. And there ROK stopped, because their interest was simply to shit on the woman. They actually ignored the larger point.

    Holmes could have been a guy, an uglier woman, or anyone. The larger point is the scam they are/were attempting to perpetrate with this Theranos. Sailer's points here are to illustrate the violations of science and the propriety of the investors and board members pushing out a shitty product on the sheer strength of famous, insider personalities. Holmes was simply the face they advanced.

    Mr. Sailer didn't quite get to it, but what those bastards REALLY wanted was to put Theranos up for an IPO, fleece the investor public, raise a few tens of billions on say, NASDAQ and as soon as that was done pay themselves and burn cash while reverting Theranos to old tech or figure something else out for it, likely loot it and close it like Solyndra. The "innovative" blood testing was a dangerous sham, the FDA knew it and NASDAQ or whomever would have figured it out. They're cut off at the pass and it's about time one of these finally was. Nice try though. The notion that a crooked, empty storefront is "worth" 9 billion is a gag-bag of a joke. The principals at Theranos have turtled and now that the truth is out, everyone with dough in the kitty is looking madly for a way out.

    ROK never contemplated any of that stuff.

  3. Payout or quality….that is the question here. This product sounds like the mental equivalent of premature ejaculation.

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  4. One detail in the first big WSJ expose of the Theranos Hoax(?) really stuck in my mind…

    Apparently, her top technical guy was some experienced scientist in the field, who was an early hire in the company and was responsible for actually getting the “revolutionary new technology” built while she was going around celebrity cocktail-parties as the PR person armed with her reality-distortion field.

    According to the WSJ article, a couple of years ago that top technical guy left a note saying “It Just Doesn’t Work!” and committed suicide. Naturally, none of the venture-capital firms paid any attention to that minor detail, and continued pouring in their mega-oceans of new funding.

    Perhaps I’ve getting a few details garbled in my memory, so be sure to check the WSJ article for yourself…

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    • Replies: @Curle
    "a couple of years ago that top technical guy left a note saying “It Just Doesn’t Work!” and committed suicide. "

    Sounds like a movie script in the making. Who would play Holmes, Gwyneth Paltrow?
    , @tbraton
    "According to the WSJ article, a couple of years ago that top technical guy left a note saying “It Just Doesn’t Work!” and committed suicide. Naturally, none of the venture-capital firms paid any attention to that minor detail, and continued pouring in their mega-oceans of new funding.

    Perhaps I’ve getting a few details garbled in my memory, so be sure to check the WSJ article for yourself…"


    Ron Unz, from the October article in the WSJ:

    "In 2005, Ms. Holmes hired Ian Gibbons, a British biochemist who had researched systems to handle and process tiny quantities of fluids. His collaboration with other Theranos scientists produced 23 patents, according to records filed with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. Ms. Holmes is listed as a co-inventor on 19 of the patents.

    The patents show how Ms. Holmes’s original idea morphed into the company’s business model. But progress was slow. Dr. Gibbons “told me nothing was working,” says his widow, Rochelle.

    In May 2013, Dr. Gibbons committed suicide. Theranos’s Ms. King says the scientist “was frequently absent from work in the last years of his life, due to health and other problems.” Theranos disputes the claim that its technology was failing.

    After Dr. Gibbons’s widow spoke to a Journal reporter, a lawyer representing Theranos sent her a letter threatening to sue her if she continued to make “false statements” about Ms. Holmes and disclose confidential information. Ms. Gibbons owns Theranos shares that she inherited from her husband."

    Geeze, this company is supposedly worth $9 billion!
    , @Dave Pinsen
    I did a quick search after Michael Moritz quoted that WSJ article in his FT op/Ed on "unicorns", and I couldn't find any mention of that guy's suicide before the WSJ article. I thought that was pretty odd, considering the plethora of articles about Holmes & Theranos before the WSJ expose.
    , @Anonymous
    First time I heard of the claims, I thought "what a pile of bullshit; there is no way it can be true - not without at least a hint of how it is done". All the other components of the scam came into the focus later. All in all, the scam is pretty remarkable even though I still don't understand how she managed to get all these people. There must be someone behind the scenes.
    , @Steve Sailer
    Yup, that's a huge detail in the October 2015 WSJ article that kicked off the latest round:


    In 2005, Ms. Holmes hired Ian Gibbons, a British biochemist who had researched systems to handle and process tiny quantities of fluids. His collaboration with other Theranos scientists produced 23 patents, according to records filed with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. Ms. Holmes is listed as a co-inventor on 19 of the patents.

    The patents show how Ms. Holmes’s original idea morphed into the company’s business model. But progress was slow. Dr. Gibbons “told me nothing was working,” says his widow, Rochelle.

    In May 2013, Dr. Gibbons committed suicide. Theranos’s Ms. King says the scientist “was frequently absent from work in the last years of his life, due to health and other problems.” Theranos disputes the claim that its technology was failing.

    After Dr. Gibbons’s widow spoke to a Journal reporter, a lawyer representing Theranos sent her a letter threatening to sue her if she continued to make “false statements” about Ms. Holmes and disclose confidential information. Ms. Gibbons owns Theranos shares that she inherited from her husband.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/theranos-has-struggled-with-blood-tests-1444881901

    I couldn't find anything before that WSJ article online about the poor man's death other than a few perfunctory death websites. So that is probably not something that was all that widely known.

    It appears there was a big board shakeup a few months after the scientist killing himself.
  5. Dirk Dagger [AKA "Chico Caldera"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment

    ¡Ay caramba! Well, I imagine Henry A. Kissinger, born in 1923, has had a lot of blood tests so I can see why you’ld want him on your BoD. And … bonus … he probably knows some good dealing-with-the-feds white-collar defense attorneys.

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  6. This kind of fake-it-until-you-make-it strategy is hardly unknown. I suspect numerous successful companies went through just such a ploy of promising a revolutionary cheaper technology and then delivering on contracts using an expensive old fashioned technology until making the new tech work.

    Reminds me of the ’48 Tucker. Except that it wasn’t successful.

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  7. >>As a result, Theranos is using traditional lab machines for most of its tests….

    Brings to mind those hipsters in Brooklyn who were caught marketing imported, melted down French chocolate as their own home-brewed bean-to-bar artisanal chocolate at $10 per bar.

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Mast Brothers. I bought one their bars on sale once at Whole Foods. Beautiful packaging, but it tasted like baking chocolate. Speaking of which:

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/681316878623584256
    , @tbraton
    "Brings to mind those hipsters in Brooklyn who were caught marketing imported, melted down French chocolate as their own home-brewed bean-to-bar artisanal chocolate at $10 per bar."

    That sort of "scam" has endless varieties. Many years ago, when I moved to Florida, I thought I would improve my language skills in a foreign language. I saw an ad in a magazine (NY Times Sunday magazine, as I recall) that offered tapes and books to go along with the tapes, so I ordered the set. "Audio Forum" was the company's name. When the materials arrived, the tapes all had the labels of the private company on them, but the books were from the U.S. Government Printing Office and labeled Foreign Service Institute of the U.S. Department of State. It was a good product, using native speakers on the audio portion, and I never thought much of it. After a while, I decided to order the second part of the course. I then discovered you could order the exact same course from the U.S. Government Printing Office for about a third of the cost. These were the same tapes and materials used by the State Department to train their personnel who were going overseas for assignment. Every language imaginable was covered. Since the materials were produced by the Government and were not copyrighted, what the clever private company was doing was buying the tapes and books from the GPO, relabeling the tapes with a label of their own, keeping the books in their original form, and selling the same product to the public at three times the price.(Or rerecording the tapes and just ordering the books from the GPO, which might have reduced their cost even more.) When I discovered that I could order the second part of the course from the GPO at 1/3 the price, I did so, of course. A few years ago I discovered that you can get the same stuff now for free just by downloading the recordings to your computer along with the accompanying written materials. It's a great resource for anyone who is trying to master a foreign language. I only wish that stuff was available when I was studying French in high school many years ago, but that was long before the technology like the Sony Walkman and the later Apple iPod came along to make its use convenient. I can't fault the private company. It was providing a useful service by advertising the product to the public and making it available to people who otherwise wouldn't know about the cheaper Government resource. I'm sure that kind of "thievery" goes on all the time in one form or other. It is the essence of trade: bringing products (like spices from the East) which are cheap in the place of origin to places that lack them (like Europe) but find them highly desirable but selling them at a much higher price. The prices start off high and enrich the people conducting the trade, but eventually market forces bring the prices down to the point where anyone can afford them.

    Chocolate is slightly different in that it involves a food product and that involves government regulation about "country of origin" and the like. But I understand that much of the olive oil that one buys from Greece or Italy is made from cheaper olives that are grown elsewhere in the Mediterranean area, such as North Africa or Spain. Greek or Italian olive oil commands a higher price because of the quality associated with those countries, but you have to be careful when you read the labels to make sure the oil is designated as made from olives grown in those countries and not from olives grown elsewhere and merely processed in Greece or Italy.
  8. Steve: I think the last bit of the 3rd-to-last paragraph got cut off.

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    • Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    "Steve: I think the last bit of the 3rd-to-last paragraph got cut off."

    That bit now reads: "more than 240 tests, ranging from pregnancy to diabetes".
    The concept "range" can apply to number intervals, because the number line is one-dimensional. But how can 240 tests be arranged in a straight line in which "pregnancy test" is at one end, and "diabetes test" is at the other end? Which tests lie between "pregnancy" and "diabetes"?
    Point: The phrase "ranging from pregnancy to diabetes" conveys no more information than "including pregnancy and diabetes".
  9. Steve, you might want to look into the background of Laura Deming. The mythology about her sounds a lot like Holmes’s, but at earlier stage in her hype cycle:

    http://www.tedmed.com/speakers/show?id=46921

    Laura Deming

    IN A NUTSHELL:

    LAURA DEMING, an 18-year-old venture capitalist and Thiel Fellow, will tell us how she found the next emerging market through her passion for extending the human healthspan.

    BIO:
    Currently a Forbes 30 under 30 star and partner at The Longevity Fund, Laura has wanted to cure aging since the age of 8. After years working on nematode longevity at the UCSF graduate school, Laura matriculated at MIT at 14 to work on artificial organogenesis and bone aging, and is now based in San Francisco, working to find and fund therapies to extend the human healthspan. She has also recently become a Board Observer at Navitor Pharmaceuticals.

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    • Replies: @Bryan Bell
    First clue - TED speaker
    Eddie Huang on TED experience.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    Franzen mocks the TED talks and quest for immortality of Silicon Valley elites in his most recent novel.
  10. The problems of working with “nano” blood samples have been known for years (basically capillary sourced blood isn’t chemically the same as blood from a vein), but it’s a little counter intuitive to an engineering school drop-out like Betsy. Any competent Laboratory Medicine physician could have told them they were doomed years ago. Also the medical testing field is so regulated there’s no real money to be made.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Not to mention that finger sticks can be more painful than venous blood draws. I can recall experiences with both, and I would much rather have blood drawn from a vein than a finger stick.
    , @Anonymous

    The problems of working with “nano” blood samples have been known for years (basically capillary sourced blood isn’t chemically the same as blood from a vein), but it’s a little counter intuitive to an engineering school drop-out like Betsy. Any competent Laboratory Medicine physician could have told them they were doomed years ago. Also the medical testing field is so regulated there’s no real money to be made.
     
    Not to self: when trying to make a quick buck on VC-backed, smoke and mirrors tech, stay away from a legitimate scientific and rigorously controlled field like medicine. Lest I be proven to be a fraud before I can cash out to work on another start up.
    , @Anonymous
    An excellent point. One can directly observe this type of variation with the well established blood glucose test strips.
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    She sounds like a vampire.

    Genius for bleeding other people’s money.

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  12. @Prof. Woland
    I just want to let everyone know that for a short period of time, I am changing my name to the Squire of Gothos.

    That’s too bad, I liked seeing a character from The Master & Margarita sometimes converse here with the main character in The Spy Who Came In From The Cold

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  13. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Jobs could at least intimidate the nerds under him to come up with something when necessary. Holmes doesn’t have that luxury as a woman. A woman boss just can’t inspire or intimidate male underlings to pull through.

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Women (not necessarily Holmes) can be very good at getting men to do what they want.
    , @Honorary Thief
    They can intimidate, but they cannot inspire.
    , @Wizard of Oz
    How do you explain the success of Queen Elizabeth 1 of England, Margaret Thatcher, and perhaps Indira Gandhi, Golda Meir, Catherine the Great....?
  14. Ok, who is this young wunderkind related to? In all the various parts to the story that appears to be the one that is either downplayed or conveniently omitted. She just happens to be a Stanford dropout? So what? Lots of students drop out of Stanford but they don’t get to have big wigs sitting on their board of their startup. And she didn’t have to go thru gofundme or kickstarter to raise the necessary capital.

    Are we supposed to believe that she didn’t come from a well connected/mega wealthy family in her own right? She’s not distantly related to the actress Katie Holmes? Or someone on her mother’s side is some third generation Hewlett Packard co-founding member?

    There’s something there. There just has to be. Richard Sherman, he of the NFL, did actually graduate from Stanford and so did QB Andrew Luck. So if this Holmes is some middle class nobody in her own right who couldn’t cut the mustard at Stanford but happened to just luck into meeting George Schultz?

    It doesn’t make sense, it doesn’t add up, and there’s something there somewhere.

    Come on, who is she really? Is she George Schultz’s great-granddaughter or distant seventh cousin once removed from Lee Kwan Yew? Or Chelsea’s step-cousin? Somehow, somewhere there is an answer.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    "Ok, who is this young wunderkind related to?"

    Good blood, good bone old money folks. Fleischman's Yeast money from way back. Her father works for the government in foreign aid and has also worked as a high ranking staffer in the energy industry. Her mother was a Congressional aid in defense and foreign affairs before starting a family. Not super important people themselves, but extremely respectable.

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/12/15/blood-simpler

    , @JLoHo
    I'm so with you on this!

    There's something here...but what?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Ok, who is this young wunderkind related to?
     
    I was thinking Rupert Holmes, who wrote paeans to piña colada and cannibalism ("Timothy, Timothy, Joe was lookin' at you; Timothy, Timothy, God what did we do?")

    But he was born David Goldstein, so no dice. Unless he's related through her yeasty Jewish connection.
    , @Federalist
    I think that Steve did an article on Richard Sherman and how he would not have been accepted at Stanford if he were not black and/or a great football player. From what I can remember, Sherman is probably well above average in intelligence but not really Stanford "material."

    But, I think the point is not that Holmes couldn't make it at Stanford. The point is to show that you have the ability to get a degree from an extremely prestigious university, something that most people can only dream of, and then drop out because you are just, as the saying goes, too cool for school. Didn't Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg drop out of Harvard? It's kind of a conspicuous consumption thing.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    I hear John Holmes was very big in his, er, field. Back in the Hirsute Era.
  15. Some useful alt-right terms can be applied here:

    A prog fantasy story that turns out to be another narrative collapse, another example of the poz:

    http://www.socialmatter.net/2015/12/21/desperately-seeking-susan-jobs/

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  16. @Ron Unz
    One detail in the first big WSJ expose of the Theranos Hoax(?) really stuck in my mind...

    Apparently, her top technical guy was some experienced scientist in the field, who was an early hire in the company and was responsible for actually getting the "revolutionary new technology" built while she was going around celebrity cocktail-parties as the PR person armed with her reality-distortion field.

    According to the WSJ article, a couple of years ago that top technical guy left a note saying "It Just Doesn't Work!" and committed suicide. Naturally, none of the venture-capital firms paid any attention to that minor detail, and continued pouring in their mega-oceans of new funding.

    Perhaps I've getting a few details garbled in my memory, so be sure to check the WSJ article for yourself...

    “a couple of years ago that top technical guy left a note saying “It Just Doesn’t Work!” and committed suicide. ”

    Sounds like a movie script in the making. Who would play Holmes, Gwyneth Paltrow?

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    • Replies: @candid_observer
    Who would play Holmes, Gwyneth Paltrow?

    No, actually it'll be Shia LaBeouf -- the gender of the main character will be changed to enhance the story.

    , @Dirk Dagger
    Kissinger has got to be Paul Sorvino ... maybe Mira could be Elizabeth Holmes? How cool would that be?
    , @BurplesonAFB
    Assuming it will take a few years for the investigation and all the details to come to light and then another year or two for Aaron Sorkin to write a screenplay and get it produced, I'd say Jennifer Lawrence (then 30) will have matured into the role.

    She will give very conflicted interviews during the press junket, trying to spin the whole affair in a feminist way. Hopefully Sorkin won't try to pin it all on the suicided stale pale male who failed to make the astounding genius tech grrrl's dream come true, but Jennifer Lawrence will probably try to.

    I hope there's a gratuitous Quaaludes scene, perhaps involving people jabbing themselves with lancets.
  17. @advancedatheist
    Steve, you might want to look into the background of Laura Deming. The mythology about her sounds a lot like Holmes's, but at earlier stage in her hype cycle:

    http://www.tedmed.com/speakers/show?id=46921

    Laura Deming

    IN A NUTSHELL:

    LAURA DEMING, an 18-year-old venture capitalist and Thiel Fellow, will tell us how she found the next emerging market through her passion for extending the human healthspan.

    BIO:
    Currently a Forbes 30 under 30 star and partner at The Longevity Fund, Laura has wanted to cure aging since the age of 8. After years working on nematode longevity at the UCSF graduate school, Laura matriculated at MIT at 14 to work on artificial organogenesis and bone aging, and is now based in San Francisco, working to find and fund therapies to extend the human healthspan. She has also recently become a Board Observer at Navitor Pharmaceuticals.

     

    First clue – TED speaker
    Eddie Huang on TED experience.

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    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    Sam Hyde's TED Talk is a perfect parody.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTJn_DBTnrY
  18. @Ron Unz
    One detail in the first big WSJ expose of the Theranos Hoax(?) really stuck in my mind...

    Apparently, her top technical guy was some experienced scientist in the field, who was an early hire in the company and was responsible for actually getting the "revolutionary new technology" built while she was going around celebrity cocktail-parties as the PR person armed with her reality-distortion field.

    According to the WSJ article, a couple of years ago that top technical guy left a note saying "It Just Doesn't Work!" and committed suicide. Naturally, none of the venture-capital firms paid any attention to that minor detail, and continued pouring in their mega-oceans of new funding.

    Perhaps I've getting a few details garbled in my memory, so be sure to check the WSJ article for yourself...

    “According to the WSJ article, a couple of years ago that top technical guy left a note saying “It Just Doesn’t Work!” and committed suicide. Naturally, none of the venture-capital firms paid any attention to that minor detail, and continued pouring in their mega-oceans of new funding.

    Perhaps I’ve getting a few details garbled in my memory, so be sure to check the WSJ article for yourself…”

    Ron Unz, from the October article in the WSJ:

    “In 2005, Ms. Holmes hired Ian Gibbons, a British biochemist who had researched systems to handle and process tiny quantities of fluids. His collaboration with other Theranos scientists produced 23 patents, according to records filed with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. Ms. Holmes is listed as a co-inventor on 19 of the patents.

    The patents show how Ms. Holmes’s original idea morphed into the company’s business model. But progress was slow. Dr. Gibbons “told me nothing was working,” says his widow, Rochelle.

    In May 2013, Dr. Gibbons committed suicide. Theranos’s Ms. King says the scientist “was frequently absent from work in the last years of his life, due to health and other problems.” Theranos disputes the claim that its technology was failing.

    After Dr. Gibbons’s widow spoke to a Journal reporter, a lawyer representing Theranos sent her a letter threatening to sue her if she continued to make “false statements” about Ms. Holmes and disclose confidential information. Ms. Gibbons owns Theranos shares that she inherited from her husband.”

    Geeze, this company is supposedly worth $9 billion!

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  19. I mentioned the Theranos similarity in a comment on your Genie post: http://www.unz.com/isteve/good-news-for-syrian-refugees/#comment-1260453

    Re the idea of doing blood tests with just a drop of blood, there already are a couple that I know of that can be done that way with existing tech: blood sugar and complete blood count (CBC). Diabetics check their blood sugar now, with expensive chemical test strips (there’s a grey market for diabetics’ unused strips). The margins on those test strips must be huge. I can see why Theranos investors had dollar signs in their eyes.

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  20. Obviously, she’s good at impressing important men.

    There’s an enormous oversupply of women trying to impress important men. It’s a competitive field. Maybe she’s good at impressing biotech nerds instead? That would be a lot easier. And a successful tech company COULD be created that way – she’d just have to attract the right nerds.

    But there’s a structural problem: in determining which nerds are geniuses and which ones aren’t a woman would necessarily have to rely on the judgement of other men, usually other nerds. She can’t make that judgement herself, not correctly anyway. But people lie. And they don’t work as hard at being objective when it’s not their money at stake. Second-hand judgements are, on average, less accurate than first-hand ones. Who knows, maybe that was her company’s problem.

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    in determining which nerds are geniuses and which ones aren’t a woman would necessarily have to rely on the judgement of other men, usually other nerds. She can’t make that judgement herself, not correctly anyway.
     
    Women show nerd-blindness in general, compared with their ability to pick out the jock, jerks, thugs, cads, bad boys, rakes, narcissistic sociopaths, etc., they prefer for their early sexual experiences.
  21. OT- Merkel claims that Germaness is a state of mind:

    “Next year is about one thing in particular: our cohesion,” Merkel said. “It is important not to follow those who, with coldness or even hate in their hearts, want to claim Germanness solely for themselves and exclude others.”

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    • Replies: @SFG
    Well, yes, she thinks you can turn people into Germans, that's pretty much the idea behind her refugee admissions.

    Is she right? We'll see... I suspect they'll get a permanent underclass, but that's just me.
  22. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Ok, who is this young wunderkind related to? In all the various parts to the story that appears to be the one that is either downplayed or conveniently omitted. She just happens to be a Stanford dropout? So what? Lots of students drop out of Stanford but they don't get to have big wigs sitting on their board of their startup. And she didn't have to go thru gofundme or kickstarter to raise the necessary capital.

    Are we supposed to believe that she didn't come from a well connected/mega wealthy family in her own right? She's not distantly related to the actress Katie Holmes? Or someone on her mother's side is some third generation Hewlett Packard co-founding member?

    There's something there. There just has to be. Richard Sherman, he of the NFL, did actually graduate from Stanford and so did QB Andrew Luck. So if this Holmes is some middle class nobody in her own right who couldn't cut the mustard at Stanford but happened to just luck into meeting George Schultz?

    It doesn't make sense, it doesn't add up, and there's something there somewhere.

    Come on, who is she really? Is she George Schultz's great-granddaughter or distant seventh cousin once removed from Lee Kwan Yew? Or Chelsea's step-cousin? Somehow, somewhere there is an answer.

    “Ok, who is this young wunderkind related to?”

    Good blood, good bone old money folks. Fleischman’s Yeast money from way back. Her father works for the government in foreign aid and has also worked as a high ranking staffer in the energy industry. Her mother was a Congressional aid in defense and foreign affairs before starting a family. Not super important people themselves, but extremely respectable.

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/12/15/blood-simpler

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    Aha. So technically its possible that her mother may have met George Schultz a few times. In that case her family was in the loop to some extent.

    Fleishman's sponsored Rudy Vallee's radio show back in the late '20's by the way, so yes they do go way back. Max Fleishman, either the illustrator or one of the founders of Fleishman's Yeast committed suicide and before that untimely event was a friend/acquaintance of Ty Cobb (who later lived in Atherton, CA an area then as now is a fairly wealthy area and stones throw from Silicon Valley).

    In other words, Holmes didn't just come from out of nowhere. There was a John Holmes of some notoriety, but he passed away in the '80s, and came from obscure origins. But I already took for granted that this Holmes wasn't related to that uh,...blood line.

    , @Anonymous
    Charles Louis Flesichmann, the founder of Fleischmann's Yeast, was Jewish. So Elizabeth Holmes has a small amount of Jewish ancestry if her great-great-grandfather married Fleischmann's daughter.
  23. I just saw a brief clip of Elizabeth Holmes’ TedMed talk. She has a surprisingly masculine voice.

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    • Replies: @tbraton
    "I just saw a brief clip of Elizabeth Holmes’ TedMed talk. She has a surprisingly masculine voice."

    You can't tell anything from the sound of someone's voice. Why, Francis the Talking Mule also had a very masculine voice.
    , @Former Darfur
    Remember the "woman" with the 3 wheel car back in the seventies? It was a transsexual and the tech was a scam. How things change.
  24. But it turns out that back in 2003 she only came up with the idea that it would be awesome to invent some revolutionary new method for testing blood.

    I like to show this TED Talk parody to kids to hit home the ideas-are-like-belly buttons thing, and to take these Snake Oil Change Agents with a grain of salt.

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    Sounds like she may end up being charged with fraud unless big clout can protect her. There’s a bewildering array of people on these boards with little in common besides being on the make. Kissinger? Some of those named are fairly well up in years which brings up the peculiar psychology of many of them, that is, no matter how old and close to eternity they are they’re still out there trying to turn yet another dollar somehow. When is enough ever enough? It’s hard to understand this mindset.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Are they being paid? If so in what form (options, free shares, cash, expenses including travel)?
  26. @Curle
    "a couple of years ago that top technical guy left a note saying “It Just Doesn’t Work!” and committed suicide. "

    Sounds like a movie script in the making. Who would play Holmes, Gwyneth Paltrow?

    Who would play Holmes, Gwyneth Paltrow?

    No, actually it’ll be Shia LaBeouf — the gender of the main character will be changed to enhance the story.

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    Haven Monahan, call your agent. There is a casting call for a blond fall guy.
  27. @Steve Sailer
    "Ok, who is this young wunderkind related to?"

    Good blood, good bone old money folks. Fleischman's Yeast money from way back. Her father works for the government in foreign aid and has also worked as a high ranking staffer in the energy industry. Her mother was a Congressional aid in defense and foreign affairs before starting a family. Not super important people themselves, but extremely respectable.

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/12/15/blood-simpler

    Aha. So technically its possible that her mother may have met George Schultz a few times. In that case her family was in the loop to some extent.

    Fleishman’s sponsored Rudy Vallee’s radio show back in the late ’20′s by the way, so yes they do go way back. Max Fleishman, either the illustrator or one of the founders of Fleishman’s Yeast committed suicide and before that untimely event was a friend/acquaintance of Ty Cobb (who later lived in Atherton, CA an area then as now is a fairly wealthy area and stones throw from Silicon Valley).

    In other words, Holmes didn’t just come from out of nowhere. There was a John Holmes of some notoriety, but he passed away in the ’80s, and came from obscure origins. But I already took for granted that this Holmes wasn’t related to that uh,…blood line.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The New Yorker article noted that a Fleischman relative had been one of the founding investors in The New Yorker.
  28. Dirk Dagger [AKA "Chico Caldera"] says: • Website     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Curle
    "a couple of years ago that top technical guy left a note saying “It Just Doesn’t Work!” and committed suicide. "

    Sounds like a movie script in the making. Who would play Holmes, Gwyneth Paltrow?

    Kissinger has got to be Paul Sorvino … maybe Mira could be Elizabeth Holmes? How cool would that be?

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  29. It reminds me of the MCI ads in the 1990′s where they claimed they had a great new video conferencing feature. It turns out the idea was invented by their marketing people, sold to to top brass as real, and left to the IT grunts to implement. When the IT grunts told them it wasn’t possible, the IT grunts were the ones responsible somehow.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I did a lot of early 1990s videoconferences. They worked well enough in the sense that you could sort of see the person at the other end, but not well enough to build a personal relationship.
  30. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Aha. So technically its possible that her mother may have met George Schultz a few times. In that case her family was in the loop to some extent.

    Fleishman's sponsored Rudy Vallee's radio show back in the late '20's by the way, so yes they do go way back. Max Fleishman, either the illustrator or one of the founders of Fleishman's Yeast committed suicide and before that untimely event was a friend/acquaintance of Ty Cobb (who later lived in Atherton, CA an area then as now is a fairly wealthy area and stones throw from Silicon Valley).

    In other words, Holmes didn't just come from out of nowhere. There was a John Holmes of some notoriety, but he passed away in the '80s, and came from obscure origins. But I already took for granted that this Holmes wasn't related to that uh,...blood line.

    The New Yorker article noted that a Fleischman relative had been one of the founding investors in The New Yorker.

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  31. Re the idea of doing blood tests with just a drop of blood, there already are a couple that I know of that can be done that way with existing tech: blood sugar and complete blood count (CBC). Diabetics check their blood sugar now, with expensive chemical test strips (there’s a grey market for diabetics’ unused strips). The margins on those test strips must be huge. I can see why Theranos investors had dollar signs in their eyes.

    IMHO –MBlood sugar: yes. CBC: no. Money in testing: no.

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  32. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Judging by the ages of the powerful old men she has surrounded herself with, she didn’t sleep her way to the top. She prostate massaged her way to the top.

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  33. @Name Withheld
    It reminds me of the MCI ads in the 1990's where they claimed they had a great new video conferencing feature. It turns out the idea was invented by their marketing people, sold to to top brass as real, and left to the IT grunts to implement. When the IT grunts told them it wasn't possible, the IT grunts were the ones responsible somehow.

    I did a lot of early 1990s videoconferences. They worked well enough in the sense that you could sort of see the person at the other end, but not well enough to build a personal relationship.

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  34. @Dave Pinsen
    I mentioned the Theranos similarity in a comment on your Genie post: http://www.unz.com/isteve/good-news-for-syrian-refugees/#comment-1260453

    Re the idea of doing blood tests with just a drop of blood, there already are a couple that I know of that can be done that way with existing tech: blood sugar and complete blood count (CBC). Diabetics check their blood sugar now, with expensive chemical test strips (there's a grey market for diabetics' unused strips). The margins on those test strips must be huge. I can see why Theranos investors had dollar signs in their eyes.

    Thanks. That must be where I got the idea.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Steve,

    Ready for some deja vu? Take a look at Meredith Perry and uBeam.

    Very similar storyline....

    http://fortune.com/2015/12/02/meredith-perry-ubeam-criticism-science/
  35. @ed
    I just saw a brief clip of Elizabeth Holmes' TedMed talk. She has a surprisingly masculine voice.

    “I just saw a brief clip of Elizabeth Holmes’ TedMed talk. She has a surprisingly masculine voice.”

    You can’t tell anything from the sound of someone’s voice. Why, Francis the Talking Mule also had a very masculine voice.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The New Yorker reporter says she drops her voice an octave when she gets up on stage to give a speech, presumably to sound more authoritative.
  36. @Glossy
    Obviously, she’s good at impressing important men.

    There's an enormous oversupply of women trying to impress important men. It's a competitive field. Maybe she's good at impressing biotech nerds instead? That would be a lot easier. And a successful tech company COULD be created that way - she'd just have to attract the right nerds.

    But there's a structural problem: in determining which nerds are geniuses and which ones aren't a woman would necessarily have to rely on the judgement of other men, usually other nerds. She can't make that judgement herself, not correctly anyway. But people lie. And they don't work as hard at being objective when it's not their money at stake. Second-hand judgements are, on average, less accurate than first-hand ones. Who knows, maybe that was her company's problem.

    in determining which nerds are geniuses and which ones aren’t a woman would necessarily have to rely on the judgement of other men, usually other nerds. She can’t make that judgement herself, not correctly anyway.

    Women show nerd-blindness in general, compared with their ability to pick out the jock, jerks, thugs, cads, bad boys, rakes, narcissistic sociopaths, etc., they prefer for their early sexual experiences.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Are you proffering the explanation for why you did or why you did not get early sexual experience:) ?
  37. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Dirk Dagger
    The problems of working with "nano" blood samples have been known for years (basically capillary sourced blood isn't chemically the same as blood from a vein), but it's a little counter intuitive to an engineering school drop-out like Betsy. Any competent Laboratory Medicine physician could have told them they were doomed years ago. Also the medical testing field is so regulated there's no real money to be made.

    Not to mention that finger sticks can be more painful than venous blood draws. I can recall experiences with both, and I would much rather have blood drawn from a vein than a finger stick.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Right, getting blood taken from the inside of my elbow is pretty straightforward, but I'm squeamish about getting jabbed in the finger.
    , @cthulhu
    But there are some people who have an overactive vagus nerve and tend to pass out as soon as the tourniquet goes on the arm. Or who have deeply buried veins and it takes several painful minutes for a vein to plump up enough to be hit by even a really good phlebotomist. Or those like me who have both conditions. I'd love to trade the standard venipuncture for a finger stick. And you can do finger sticks on the side of the finger and they're not bad.
  38. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Steve Sailer
    Thanks. That must be where I got the idea.

    Steve,

    Ready for some deja vu? Take a look at Meredith Perry and uBeam.

    Very similar storyline….

    http://fortune.com/2015/12/02/meredith-perry-ubeam-criticism-science/

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Yeah, there was an article recently arguing her tech was physically impossible without being incredibly dangerous.
    , @Anonymous
    I thought of the wireless charging idea back in the 80s when I was about 13 years old. I asked a family friend (who was a military comms specialist) if it would work and he said no. I gave it up. Dang. I could have made a fortune out of pedalling impossible technology.
  39. This sounds like a good data mining project for moneyballing investors: which famous name on boards is most often associated with firms with something to hide?

    That’s a great idea. Does anyone know of any good sources for company board member data?

    Here is one commercial database: http://datacards.alc.com/market?page=research/datacard&id=56322
    Interesting to see what a small percentage of board members are on more than one BOD (~2% there).

    This looks like a comprehensive source. I wonder what it costs…

    http://thomsonreuters.com/en/products-services/financial/company-data/officers-directors.html

    This site says sec.gov does not have the right data, but does not suggest an alternative: http://e-pluribusunum.org/2014/02/19/rankandfiled-com-is-like-the-secs-edgar-database-but-for-humans/

    It might be possible to scrape EDGAR (search for “DEF 14A”) proxy filings. In the AAPL filing the section heading is “DIRECTORS, CORPORATE GOVERNANCE AND EXECUTIVE OFFICERS”, but I don’t know if that is consistent between filings.

    https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000119312515017607/d774604ddef14a.htm#toc774604_3

    You can get the number of boards someone serves on (e.g. 65 for George Shultz) at http://www.dnb.com.au/Express/results/director_list.asp
    but it costs $56 to get the actual report.

    It would also be interesting to do some social network analysis on corporate BOD connections. Here’s a 2003 paper looking at the Fortune 1000: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1140%2Fepjb%2Fe2004-00127-8#page-1
    Also see http://soq.sagepub.com/content/1/3/301.abstract

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    SEC/Edgar only has public companies, thus not Theranos. Several of your links claim to have the boards of private companies, but it is not clear how accurate or comprehensive they are. Most are published on the companies websites, but that is difficult to scrape, because they are all different. And Theranos is typical in not updating its website on board changes.

    Your third link is doing exactly what you suggest after that: it is scraping Edgar, including boards. Again, Edgar is only public companies.
  40. The spectre of eugenics never sleeps:

    <blockquote>Britain’s largest sperm bank has been turning away donors with dyslexia in what it describes as attempts to “minimise the risk of transmitting common genetic diseases or malformations to any children born”.

    In a practice branded “eugenics” by campaigners and a would-be donor, the London Sperm Bank has banned men with dyslexia or other common conditions it described as “neurological diseases” from donating.

    A leaflet to donors lists a series of conditions the clinic screens for, including: attention deficit disorder (ADD), attention deficit hyperactivity disorder [ADHD], autism, Asperger syndrome, dyslexia and the motor disorder dyspraxia.

    Steve O’Brien, chair of the Dyslexia Foundation and a board member of the International Dyslexia Association, said: “This is eugenics. It’s trying to say that dyslexics shouldn’t be in society. But we’re moving into a visually dominated world of Instagram and YouTube where given the right tools it is no longer an issue, because people with dyslexia are right-brained often with hyper-visual skills.

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/29/largest-uk-sperm-bank-turns-away-dyslexic-donors

    Caplan makes the distinction between hard and soft eugenics, the former being more closely associated with Nazi Germany and the killing of so-called undesirables. Soft eugenics, or what’s often referred to as positive eugenics, is the attempt to make better babies. So, in the sense that sperm banks are promoting and encouraging the idea of having babies built to order, then yes, it can be referred to as a form of positive eugenics.

    “In this case, customers are selecting for traits they want, and avoiding traits they don’t want,” Caplan explained to Gizmodo.

    Bioethicist Nigel Cameron, the president of the Center for Policy on Emerging Technologies, says the practice is absolutely eugenics— and that sperm banks are starting to take it too far. “There is something inherently eugenic about assisted reproduction unless donations are accepted, by clinics and recipients, sight unseen,” he told Gizmodo. “When we take this to the extent they have, banning the color blind, we are wading in deep.”

    http://gizmodo.com/are-sperm-banks-in-the-business-of-eugenics-1750320665

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    A leaflet to donors lists a series of conditions the clinic screens for, including: attention deficit disorder (ADD), attention deficit hyperactivity disorder [ADHD], autism, Asperger syndrome, dyslexia and the motor disorder dyspraxia.

    HOW do they screen? Likely they screen by asking sperm donors to be honest. If these anti-eugenics people are so upset about parents screening for good traits, then they can disrupt the process by creating fictional accomplishments and donating sperm and siring vast numbers of children afflicted with dyslexia, ADD, ADHD, autism, etc and sit back and wait for the Jodie Fosters of the world to sue the sperm banks for misleading advertising.
    , @reiner Tor
    The interesting thing is they stopped accepting ginger donors years ago, and nobody cared. Now apparently it's worse to exclude dyslexics than to exclude gingers.
    , @Bill Jones
    The idiot liberals over at the Grauniad are up in arms about potentially screening for autism in sperm donors..

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/30/screening-sperm-donors-autism-autistic-eugenics

    I love the oh so typical self-centered specialness of the writer:

    "Screening sperm donors for autism? As an autistic person, I know that’s the road to eugenics "


    No reply to my question in the comments
    "Why does autism give you special insight into eugenics?"

    That the sainted Margaret Sanger was all for this (with a special emphasis of removing blacks from the gene pool) seems not to be worthy of notice.
  41. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Steve Sailer
    "Ok, who is this young wunderkind related to?"

    Good blood, good bone old money folks. Fleischman's Yeast money from way back. Her father works for the government in foreign aid and has also worked as a high ranking staffer in the energy industry. Her mother was a Congressional aid in defense and foreign affairs before starting a family. Not super important people themselves, but extremely respectable.

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/12/15/blood-simpler

    Charles Louis Flesichmann, the founder of Fleischmann’s Yeast, was Jewish. So Elizabeth Holmes has a small amount of Jewish ancestry if her great-great-grandfather married Fleischmann’s daughter.

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  42. “former Secretary of Defense Bill Perry, former Secretary of State and National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger, former U.S. Senators Sam Nunn and Bill Frist (a heart-transplant surgeon), retired U.S. Navy Adm. Gary Roughead, retired U.S. Marine Corp Gen. James Mattis, former Wells Fargo CEO and chairman Dick Kovacevich, and former Bechtel Group CEO Riley Bechtel.”

    Any comparatively new corporation that feels the need to have that many heavy hitters on its Board of Directors has something to hide.

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    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I feel like the Board might be able to call in a drone strike on short sellers.
  43. foundrix
    adventuress
    provocateuse

    the foundrix is an adventuress provocateuse.

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    prostatemasseuse
    , @Thomas Fuller

    foundrix
     
    Are you suggesting Jimi Hender was a tranny?
  44. @ed
    I just saw a brief clip of Elizabeth Holmes' TedMed talk. She has a surprisingly masculine voice.

    Remember the “woman” with the 3 wheel car back in the seventies? It was a transsexual and the tech was a scam. How things change.

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  45. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Ok, who is this young wunderkind related to? In all the various parts to the story that appears to be the one that is either downplayed or conveniently omitted. She just happens to be a Stanford dropout? So what? Lots of students drop out of Stanford but they don't get to have big wigs sitting on their board of their startup. And she didn't have to go thru gofundme or kickstarter to raise the necessary capital.

    Are we supposed to believe that she didn't come from a well connected/mega wealthy family in her own right? She's not distantly related to the actress Katie Holmes? Or someone on her mother's side is some third generation Hewlett Packard co-founding member?

    There's something there. There just has to be. Richard Sherman, he of the NFL, did actually graduate from Stanford and so did QB Andrew Luck. So if this Holmes is some middle class nobody in her own right who couldn't cut the mustard at Stanford but happened to just luck into meeting George Schultz?

    It doesn't make sense, it doesn't add up, and there's something there somewhere.

    Come on, who is she really? Is she George Schultz's great-granddaughter or distant seventh cousin once removed from Lee Kwan Yew? Or Chelsea's step-cousin? Somehow, somewhere there is an answer.

    I’m so with you on this!

    There’s something here…but what?

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    • Replies: @Honorary Thief
    I mean, let's just take the Occam's Razor approach. What is the usual connection between good looking young blondes and rich, powerful men?
  46. @flyover hick
    "former Secretary of Defense Bill Perry, former Secretary of State and National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger, former U.S. Senators Sam Nunn and Bill Frist (a heart-transplant surgeon), retired U.S. Navy Adm. Gary Roughead, retired U.S. Marine Corp Gen. James Mattis, former Wells Fargo CEO and chairman Dick Kovacevich, and former Bechtel Group CEO Riley Bechtel."


    Any comparatively new corporation that feels the need to have that many heavy hitters on its Board of Directors has something to hide.

    I feel like the Board might be able to call in a drone strike on short sellers.

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    • Replies: @pyrrhus
    Don't you wonder whether this company is some kind of Deep State money laundering device?
    , @Wizard of Oz
    What is known about how the board members are remunerated?

    Presumably they get expenses at some level for attendances at board meetings and board related meetings - remuneration committee? - lobbying lunches in DC?

    All would have shares and maybe options but do they get regular fees, maybe low but turned into shares at a generous rate?

    I had a chance to join a board whose better known names were like those Ms Holmes has collected when a friend was the head of a seriously prestigious international organisation. I didn't bother to ask whether I would be flown at the pointy end to board meetings in NY when he mentioned that I could have a place on the board (International Advisory Board I guess) for $40,000. At least I don't suppose that I would have suffered much chance of being sued by anyone for anything. Would Ms. Holmes lot be so sure they were safe?

  47. Maybe Holmes wasn’t unmasked earlier because she named her firm Theranos instead of. . . Cellyndra?

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  48. @snorlax
    Steve: I think the last bit of the 3rd-to-last paragraph got cut off.

    “Steve: I think the last bit of the 3rd-to-last paragraph got cut off.”

    That bit now reads: “more than 240 tests, ranging from pregnancy to diabetes”.
    The concept “range” can apply to number intervals, because the number line is one-dimensional. But how can 240 tests be arranged in a straight line in which “pregnancy test” is at one end, and “diabetes test” is at the other end? Which tests lie between “pregnancy” and “diabetes”?
    Point: The phrase “ranging from pregnancy to diabetes” conveys no more information than “including pregnancy and diabetes”.

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  49. @Anonymous
    Not to mention that finger sticks can be more painful than venous blood draws. I can recall experiences with both, and I would much rather have blood drawn from a vein than a finger stick.

    Right, getting blood taken from the inside of my elbow is pretty straightforward, but I’m squeamish about getting jabbed in the finger.

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Nerve density in your fingers is a lot greater. A trick they teach diabetics is to stick the side of your finger, which is less sensitive. And they have lancing devices for home use where you can adjust the depth of the strike to the minimum required to get the blood.

    But when I got a CBC test once, the tech just stabbed my finger with some implement which was much more painful.
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    But at least the finger pick is a tiny needle. What they take from the elbow is a massively ginormous needle, must be nearly four to five inches long. Goodness gracious.

    Maybe that's what Holmes is selling: The promise. The idea that instead of having to get a vein drained or at least major amount of blood taken from that area, the same exact results can be gained all by the jab of a finger. After all, if medical science can now produce accurate results for some things, like blood sugar and total cholesterol levels, why not go for the whole nine yards and have all the blood work done by a simple jab of the finger? After all, it wasn't that long ago when the finger results weren't recommended, whereas now they can give about 95% accuracy on the few results that they can measure. Therefore, why not attempt to get all the blood work, just by the jab of that finger?

    And, they do tend to use a much smaller needle when they jab the finger.

    , @PiltdownMan
    So, basically, there are billions of dollars to be made from modern Americans aversion to a pin-prick.

    May I suggest y'all go and see 'The Revenant' to remind yourselves of the way we used to be?

    Somewhere, the ghost of Hugh Glass is grunting in disgust.
    , @Anonymous

    Right, getting blood taken from the inside of my elbow is pretty straightforward, but I’m squeamish about getting jabbed in the finger.
     
    A company trying to base itself on prick-less technology naturally needs to have a feminine female heading it. And if a company is based on just a little prick, under the thumb, than they need to tap Lindsay Graham as CEO.
    , @Expletive Deleted
    Inside of forearm or higher for me every time.
    Thing is, I actually use my fingers for productive tasks, and can't chance any of them falling out on parade. Whereas I rarely "elbow-crook" anything, ever. And any mishaps/infections there would result in more serious (and I hope picturesque) symptoms, justifying medical leave. Nearly lost the right arm due to a cannula infection once, blew up like the Elephant Man overnight, and I conked out right in the arms of the (dashed tidy, what? ding! dong!) Chinese lady doctor the minute I made it to A&E. Stupid of me driving really, irresponsible, but the official NHS method would have made me take an aspirin and wait a week. Saves "taxpayers' " money.
  50. @tbraton
    "I just saw a brief clip of Elizabeth Holmes’ TedMed talk. She has a surprisingly masculine voice."

    You can't tell anything from the sound of someone's voice. Why, Francis the Talking Mule also had a very masculine voice.

    The New Yorker reporter says she drops her voice an octave when she gets up on stage to give a speech, presumably to sound more authoritative.

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Maybe not uncommon in male-dominated fields. When I was in mutual fund wholesaling, I recall having a casual conversation with the only female wholesaler at a convention of some sort. She sounded in the normal range then. But when she got up to give her presentation, she sounded like a football coach.
    , @Daniel H
    But when she speaks she betrays a bit of uptalk. That's a dead give away of something not good.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    You wrote something like this about Maggie Thatcher: "Sir Laurence Olivier arranged voice lessons for Margaret Thatcher in the 1970s. She learned to sound less shrill and more calmly authoritative."
    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2013/09/why-did-lesbian-democrat-lose-so-badly.html

    Hillary could use some coaching to get that "edge" off her voice. I can't imagine any man voting for someone who sounds like this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0

    She could cause a mass epidemic of genital retraction syndrome.
    , @tbraton
    I was joking. As you and the other commenters to your post point out, there is obviously a calculated strategy to lowering her voice. Apparently, the lower her voice goes, the higher the valuation of her company goes. Too bad it's privately owned. Looks like it would be a good short.
  51. @Ron Unz
    One detail in the first big WSJ expose of the Theranos Hoax(?) really stuck in my mind...

    Apparently, her top technical guy was some experienced scientist in the field, who was an early hire in the company and was responsible for actually getting the "revolutionary new technology" built while she was going around celebrity cocktail-parties as the PR person armed with her reality-distortion field.

    According to the WSJ article, a couple of years ago that top technical guy left a note saying "It Just Doesn't Work!" and committed suicide. Naturally, none of the venture-capital firms paid any attention to that minor detail, and continued pouring in their mega-oceans of new funding.

    Perhaps I've getting a few details garbled in my memory, so be sure to check the WSJ article for yourself...

    I did a quick search after Michael Moritz quoted that WSJ article in his FT op/Ed on “unicorns”, and I couldn’t find any mention of that guy’s suicide before the WSJ article. I thought that was pretty odd, considering the plethora of articles about Holmes & Theranos before the WSJ expose.

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  52. @yaqub the mad scientist
    But it turns out that back in 2003 she only came up with the idea that it would be awesome to invent some revolutionary new method for testing blood.

    I like to show this TED Talk parody to kids to hit home the ideas-are-like-belly buttons thing, and to take these Snake Oil Change Agents with a grain of salt.

    Have you seen Sam Hyde’s TED talk?

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  53. @Daniel H
    >>As a result, Theranos is using traditional lab machines for most of its tests....

    Brings to mind those hipsters in Brooklyn who were caught marketing imported, melted down French chocolate as their own home-brewed bean-to-bar artisanal chocolate at $10 per bar.

    Mast Brothers. I bought one their bars on sale once at Whole Foods. Beautiful packaging, but it tasted like baking chocolate. Speaking of which:

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    • Replies: @Mike Zwick
    I heard that these guys are going to change their names to "Smith" and go into the cough drop business.
  54. @advancedatheist
    Steve, you might want to look into the background of Laura Deming. The mythology about her sounds a lot like Holmes's, but at earlier stage in her hype cycle:

    http://www.tedmed.com/speakers/show?id=46921

    Laura Deming

    IN A NUTSHELL:

    LAURA DEMING, an 18-year-old venture capitalist and Thiel Fellow, will tell us how she found the next emerging market through her passion for extending the human healthspan.

    BIO:
    Currently a Forbes 30 under 30 star and partner at The Longevity Fund, Laura has wanted to cure aging since the age of 8. After years working on nematode longevity at the UCSF graduate school, Laura matriculated at MIT at 14 to work on artificial organogenesis and bone aging, and is now based in San Francisco, working to find and fund therapies to extend the human healthspan. She has also recently become a Board Observer at Navitor Pharmaceuticals.

     

    Franzen mocks the TED talks and quest for immortality of Silicon Valley elites in his most recent novel.

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  55. @Anonymous
    Jobs could at least intimidate the nerds under him to come up with something when necessary. Holmes doesn't have that luxury as a woman. A woman boss just can't inspire or intimidate male underlings to pull through.

    Women (not necessarily Holmes) can be very good at getting men to do what they want.

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    • Replies: @TheJester
    If you look carefully at Holmes' business model and how she, throughout her life, seduces male professors and politicians and investors and nerds, she is a classic example of the "whiny, needy, and foxy" female. In short, she finds father figures, portrays herself as a vulnerable and deserving daughter figure, and begs them for protection and help. The vulnerable men comply ... it's in their DNA.

    I'm reminded of a survey going back years to the point that most young people on their way to Europe for a post-high school trip were young girls on trips paid for by their fathers. However, to toughen them, they kept their sons at home, making sure that they understood they had to make it through life on their own.

    I wonder how Holmes would fair in the society of women ... somewhere she perhaps tries to avoid and where she doesn't ply her wares. Would they quickly find her out? I think so.
  56. @syonredux
    The spectre of eugenics never sleeps:


    <blockquote>Britain’s largest sperm bank has been turning away donors with dyslexia in what it describes as attempts to “minimise the risk of transmitting common genetic diseases or malformations to any children born”.

    In a practice branded “eugenics” by campaigners and a would-be donor, the London Sperm Bank has banned men with dyslexia or other common conditions it described as “neurological diseases” from donating.


    A leaflet to donors lists a series of conditions the clinic screens for, including: attention deficit disorder (ADD), attention deficit hyperactivity disorder [ADHD], autism, Asperger syndrome, dyslexia and the motor disorder dyspraxia.
     

    Steve O’Brien, chair of the Dyslexia Foundation and a board member of the International Dyslexia Association, said: “This is eugenics. It’s trying to say that dyslexics shouldn’t be in society. But we’re moving into a visually dominated world of Instagram and YouTube where given the right tools it is no longer an issue, because people with dyslexia are right-brained often with hyper-visual skills.
     
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/29/largest-uk-sperm-bank-turns-away-dyslexic-donors

    Caplan makes the distinction between hard and soft eugenics, the former being more closely associated with Nazi Germany and the killing of so-called undesirables. Soft eugenics, or what’s often referred to as positive eugenics, is the attempt to make better babies. So, in the sense that sperm banks are promoting and encouraging the idea of having babies built to order, then yes, it can be referred to as a form of positive eugenics.

    “In this case, customers are selecting for traits they want, and avoiding traits they don’t want,” Caplan explained to Gizmodo.

    Bioethicist Nigel Cameron, the president of the Center for Policy on Emerging Technologies, says the practice is absolutely eugenics— and that sperm banks are starting to take it too far. “There is something inherently eugenic about assisted reproduction unless donations are accepted, by clinics and recipients, sight unseen,” he told Gizmodo. “When we take this to the extent they have, banning the color blind, we are wading in deep.”

     

    http://gizmodo.com/are-sperm-banks-in-the-business-of-eugenics-1750320665

    A leaflet to donors lists a series of conditions the clinic screens for, including: attention deficit disorder (ADD), attention deficit hyperactivity disorder [ADHD], autism, Asperger syndrome, dyslexia and the motor disorder dyspraxia.

    HOW do they screen? Likely they screen by asking sperm donors to be honest. If these anti-eugenics people are so upset about parents screening for good traits, then they can disrupt the process by creating fictional accomplishments and donating sperm and siring vast numbers of children afflicted with dyslexia, ADD, ADHD, autism, etc and sit back and wait for the Jodie Fosters of the world to sue the sperm banks for misleading advertising.

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    • Replies: @SFG
    You could argue sociopathy is a positive trait these days. At least for you.
    , @flyingtiger
    I have to agree. If I was evil and had ADD, I would make it a point to donate to this sperm bank.
  57. “female Steve Jobs”

    You could reasonably have written off pretty much every single thing Steve Jobs did as a stooopid idea which’ll never work, until it actually did.

    It’s really hard to figure out which tech ideas are brilliant and which are stupid. Heck, most of the employees of a tech startup don’t have any real insight into whether they are working on a great product or a fundamentally dumb idea. Even when a company fails, it doesn’t necessarily mean its detractors knew what the hell they were talking about.

    Given Theranos huge valuation, I’m highly skeptical of any simple story explaining why it’s a fraud. Solyndra’s failure didn’t validate Republican skepticism about alternate energy — like a stopped clock, they also mocked Tesla. Likewise, if Theranos fails, it’ll say nothing at all about women founder of tech startups. Or even about Elizabeth Holmes!

    By the way, this also highlights why liberals are so reluctant to acknowledge race and gender differences. Whatever differences exist are stastistical in nature and are pretty useless in predicting individual success or failure. But it’s just too tempting to judge a female CEO or a black President to their race or gender when analyzing their success or failure.

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    • Replies: @neutral

    But it’s just too tempting to judge a female CEO or a black President to their race or gender when analyzing their success or failure.
     
    This is a classic example of the false narrative that liberals like you keep pushing. There is ONLY ONE REAL reason this company and individual is talked about - and that is because she is a woman. She was made famous because she is a woman, if this was a white man nobody would be talking about it, the people judging her are the people that decided to make her famous because of gender, the one falling to temptation is in fact you.
    , @Patton
    Easy to judge, in retrospect. And in retrospect, we aren't judging by race or gender, but by results.

    In Theranos' case, I'm sympathetic to your argument.

    In the case of, say, Obama, his observable failures are only partly due to race, and even those are incidental to his actual race, instead caused by his bad intentions amplified by how he views race relative to his ideology.
    , @Daniel H
    >>It’s really hard to figure out which tech ideas are brilliant and which are stupid.

    "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."

    Nigel Tufnel
    , @pyrrhus
    Female CEOs don't have a very good record, especially when they suffer from innumeracy and a complete lack of scientific knowledge in the area they are supposed to be making decisions about. I only know a couple of venture capitalists, but they are drastically smarter than this woman, and would quickly realize that it's a scam........But then, liberals generally love scams, especially when the taxpayers are footing the bill...
  58. Girl reporters tend to drop an octave at the end of a sentence. They surely teach this faux-gravitas at J school.

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  59. @Anonymous
    Steve,

    Ready for some deja vu? Take a look at Meredith Perry and uBeam.

    Very similar storyline....

    http://fortune.com/2015/12/02/meredith-perry-ubeam-criticism-science/

    Yeah, there was an article recently arguing her tech was physically impossible without being incredibly dangerous.

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  60. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @let it burn
    foundrix
    adventuress
    provocateuse

    the foundrix is an adventuress provocateuse.

    prostatemasseuse

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  61. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Dirk Dagger
    The problems of working with "nano" blood samples have been known for years (basically capillary sourced blood isn't chemically the same as blood from a vein), but it's a little counter intuitive to an engineering school drop-out like Betsy. Any competent Laboratory Medicine physician could have told them they were doomed years ago. Also the medical testing field is so regulated there's no real money to be made.

    The problems of working with “nano” blood samples have been known for years (basically capillary sourced blood isn’t chemically the same as blood from a vein), but it’s a little counter intuitive to an engineering school drop-out like Betsy. Any competent Laboratory Medicine physician could have told them they were doomed years ago. Also the medical testing field is so regulated there’s no real money to be made.

    Not to self: when trying to make a quick buck on VC-backed, smoke and mirrors tech, stay away from a legitimate scientific and rigorously controlled field like medicine. Lest I be proven to be a fraud before I can cash out to work on another start up.

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    • Replies: @Dirk Dagger
    Your best medical frauds are in the billing area of the MediCare-Industrial complex. Step one bill x millions and get paid for 5-10 YEARS; step two, when feds come knocking it's back to Fraudistan. (I know iSteve is a big fan of these type of smash-grab-and-flees.) It all comes down to blocking and tackling.
    , @Bill Jones
    "Not to self: when trying to make a quick buck on VC-backed, smoke and mirrors tech, stay away from a legitimate scientific and rigorously controlled field like medicine."
    correct. Stick to Climate Science.
  62. @Steve Sailer
    Right, getting blood taken from the inside of my elbow is pretty straightforward, but I'm squeamish about getting jabbed in the finger.

    Nerve density in your fingers is a lot greater. A trick they teach diabetics is to stick the side of your finger, which is less sensitive. And they have lancing devices for home use where you can adjust the depth of the strike to the minimum required to get the blood.

    But when I got a CBC test once, the tech just stabbed my finger with some implement which was much more painful.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Not her fingers, after all those prostate massages. By now they're probably very tough and calloused.
  63. @Steve Sailer
    The New Yorker reporter says she drops her voice an octave when she gets up on stage to give a speech, presumably to sound more authoritative.

    Maybe not uncommon in male-dominated fields. When I was in mutual fund wholesaling, I recall having a casual conversation with the only female wholesaler at a convention of some sort. She sounded in the normal range then. But when she got up to give her presentation, she sounded like a football coach.

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    OT: “…Merkel said. “It is important not to follow those who, with coldness or even hate in their hearts, want to claim Germanness solely for themselves and exclude others.”…

    Yes! We are all Germans now! Deutschland über alles at last! The last surviving nazi zombie vampire from Antarctica did manage to slip the potion into Merkel’s drink, I guess.

    “Hate in their hearts”? I seem to be hearing “haters gotta hate” a lot on the radio recently, I suppose it’s the approved response to all those who might not be instantly ready to announce they have become German overnight. The poor souls who don’t realize they’ve been Trans-Germaned all along.

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    • Replies: @Curle
    “haters gotta hate”

    Yes, another in a long line of socially approved banalities. I wonder if anyone's ever assembled an authoritative list of such things. It would have to include:

    "Don't trust anyone over 30."

    "Spiritual not religious."

    "America is an immigrant nation."

    "American is a propositional nation."

    "It takes a village."

    etc.
  65. @Steve Sailer
    The New Yorker reporter says she drops her voice an octave when she gets up on stage to give a speech, presumably to sound more authoritative.

    But when she speaks she betrays a bit of uptalk. That’s a dead give away of something not good.

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  66. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Dave Pinsen
    Nerve density in your fingers is a lot greater. A trick they teach diabetics is to stick the side of your finger, which is less sensitive. And they have lancing devices for home use where you can adjust the depth of the strike to the minimum required to get the blood.

    But when I got a CBC test once, the tech just stabbed my finger with some implement which was much more painful.

    Not her fingers, after all those prostate massages. By now they’re probably very tough and calloused.

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  67. @Steve Sailer
    The New Yorker reporter says she drops her voice an octave when she gets up on stage to give a speech, presumably to sound more authoritative.

    You wrote something like this about Maggie Thatcher: “Sir Laurence Olivier arranged voice lessons for Margaret Thatcher in the 1970s. She learned to sound less shrill and more calmly authoritative.”

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2013/09/why-did-lesbian-democrat-lose-so-badly.html

    Hillary could use some coaching to get that “edge” off her voice. I can’t imagine any man voting for someone who sounds like this:

    She could cause a mass epidemic of genital retraction syndrome.

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  68. It happened in Hawaii in the go-go ’80s.

    A con named Ron Rewald established an investment firm in Hawaii called “Bishop, Baldwin, Rewald, Dillingham and Wong.”

    That would be the equivalent of a Wall Street firm being named “Goldman, Buffett, Bloomberg, Maddoff, and Blankfein.”

    It was a pyramid scamp that no one noticed as long as the money came in.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Rewald

    People want to believe the story.

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    • Replies: @Curle
    Yes, but when I first heard this story I couldn't believe he got away with it for so long. It isn't like there aren't plenty of real Dillinghams, Baldwins and Bishops around to expose the scam, and yet they didn't. Very odd. Particularly, given that Hawaii's elite are a very close-knit set.
  69. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Lots of BMR – Beta Male Rage – in this thread…..

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    • Replies: @hhsiii
    All I know is she can distort the reality of my field any time.
    , @BurplesonAFB
    https://i.imgflip.com/wlzl2.jpg
    , @SFG
    It was like my right-wing friends who wanted to vote for Sarah Palin because she was cute. I finally won with, 'Do you care about your girlfriend's opinion on politics?'
  70. @Curle
    "a couple of years ago that top technical guy left a note saying “It Just Doesn’t Work!” and committed suicide. "

    Sounds like a movie script in the making. Who would play Holmes, Gwyneth Paltrow?

    Assuming it will take a few years for the investigation and all the details to come to light and then another year or two for Aaron Sorkin to write a screenplay and get it produced, I’d say Jennifer Lawrence (then 30) will have matured into the role.

    She will give very conflicted interviews during the press junket, trying to spin the whole affair in a feminist way. Hopefully Sorkin won’t try to pin it all on the suicided stale pale male who failed to make the astounding genius tech grrrl’s dream come true, but Jennifer Lawrence will probably try to.

    I hope there’s a gratuitous Quaaludes scene, perhaps involving people jabbing themselves with lancets.

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    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Speaking of Jennifer Lawrence, how come she wasn't cast in the new Star Wars film? Is she too old for the lead or something? Or maybe Lucas will cast her as one of the main baddies in the next installment, so she can face off vs. the new heroine?
  71. @Anonymous
    Lots of BMR - Beta Male Rage - in this thread.....

    All I know is she can distort the reality of my field any time.

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    All I know is she can distort the reality of my field any time.

     

    Although I don't care for blondes, she's fairly attractive.
    What do you call a blonde who dyes her hair black? Artificial intelligence.
    , @statsquatch
    @hhsiii

    Or is it "I want to distort the reality in her field"?
  72. @Steve Sailer
    Right, getting blood taken from the inside of my elbow is pretty straightforward, but I'm squeamish about getting jabbed in the finger.

    But at least the finger pick is a tiny needle. What they take from the elbow is a massively ginormous needle, must be nearly four to five inches long. Goodness gracious.

    Maybe that’s what Holmes is selling: The promise. The idea that instead of having to get a vein drained or at least major amount of blood taken from that area, the same exact results can be gained all by the jab of a finger. After all, if medical science can now produce accurate results for some things, like blood sugar and total cholesterol levels, why not go for the whole nine yards and have all the blood work done by a simple jab of the finger? After all, it wasn’t that long ago when the finger results weren’t recommended, whereas now they can give about 95% accuracy on the few results that they can measure. Therefore, why not attempt to get all the blood work, just by the jab of that finger?

    And, they do tend to use a much smaller needle when they jab the finger.

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  73. @BurplesonAFB
    Assuming it will take a few years for the investigation and all the details to come to light and then another year or two for Aaron Sorkin to write a screenplay and get it produced, I'd say Jennifer Lawrence (then 30) will have matured into the role.

    She will give very conflicted interviews during the press junket, trying to spin the whole affair in a feminist way. Hopefully Sorkin won't try to pin it all on the suicided stale pale male who failed to make the astounding genius tech grrrl's dream come true, but Jennifer Lawrence will probably try to.

    I hope there's a gratuitous Quaaludes scene, perhaps involving people jabbing themselves with lancets.

    Speaking of Jennifer Lawrence, how come she wasn’t cast in the new Star Wars film? Is she too old for the lead or something? Or maybe Lucas will cast her as one of the main baddies in the next installment, so she can face off vs. the new heroine?

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Speaking of Jennifer Lawrence, how come she wasn’t cast in the new Star Wars film?
     
    Since she's from Louisville, she may be holding out for the next installment of "Mall Cop".
    , @snorlax
    Probably a combination of Disney wanting to save a few $$$ on their billions-grossing movie (TBF you don't need big stars - it's Star Wars!), and J-Law not wanting to torpedo her career like nearly all of the actors who've appeared in the series.*

    *Hayden Christiansen has been rather unconvincingly claiming his lack of post-SW prequel roles was because he lost interest in acting, in the round of interviews for his new film, some direct-to-video Bible-thumper thing.

    Carrie Fisher for her part likes to claim that she was frozen out because Hollywood loses interest in female actors after they turn 40, and not because she became an overweight cokehead.

    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Uh, you do know that Episode IV and V made Harrison Ford a superstar. So again, why not cast Lawrence, as one of the main baddies. Has the Hunger Games ruined her career?
  74. @Steve Sailer
    Right, getting blood taken from the inside of my elbow is pretty straightforward, but I'm squeamish about getting jabbed in the finger.

    So, basically, there are billions of dollars to be made from modern Americans aversion to a pin-prick.

    May I suggest y’all go and see ‘The Revenant’ to remind yourselves of the way we used to be?

    Somewhere, the ghost of Hugh Glass is grunting in disgust.

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  75. But perhaps the Elizabeth Holmes’ reality distortion field was so strong that all the venture capitalists and famous board members backing her never noticed that she actually wasn’t a genius biotech inventor?

    She’s leveraging an already existing reality-distortion field driven by smaller family sizes. Powerful men more often now have only female heirs to carry on their legacy (directly) so push them toward more traditionally masculine pursuits, and the institutions they dominate to support them.

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  76. As someone who lives and works in the area, the tell will be when the board members start to resign.

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  77. How much is the value of having these solons on the board of directors? Is it just social proof?

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    "How much is the value of having these solons on the board of directors? Is it just social proof?"

    Buying protection.
  78. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Ron Unz
    One detail in the first big WSJ expose of the Theranos Hoax(?) really stuck in my mind...

    Apparently, her top technical guy was some experienced scientist in the field, who was an early hire in the company and was responsible for actually getting the "revolutionary new technology" built while she was going around celebrity cocktail-parties as the PR person armed with her reality-distortion field.

    According to the WSJ article, a couple of years ago that top technical guy left a note saying "It Just Doesn't Work!" and committed suicide. Naturally, none of the venture-capital firms paid any attention to that minor detail, and continued pouring in their mega-oceans of new funding.

    Perhaps I've getting a few details garbled in my memory, so be sure to check the WSJ article for yourself...

    First time I heard of the claims, I thought “what a pile of bullshit; there is no way it can be true – not without at least a hint of how it is done”. All the other components of the scam came into the focus later. All in all, the scam is pretty remarkable even though I still don’t understand how she managed to get all these people. There must be someone behind the scenes.

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  79. @Anonymous

    The problems of working with “nano” blood samples have been known for years (basically capillary sourced blood isn’t chemically the same as blood from a vein), but it’s a little counter intuitive to an engineering school drop-out like Betsy. Any competent Laboratory Medicine physician could have told them they were doomed years ago. Also the medical testing field is so regulated there’s no real money to be made.
     
    Not to self: when trying to make a quick buck on VC-backed, smoke and mirrors tech, stay away from a legitimate scientific and rigorously controlled field like medicine. Lest I be proven to be a fraud before I can cash out to work on another start up.

    Your best medical frauds are in the billing area of the MediCare-Industrial complex. Step one bill x millions and get paid for 5-10 YEARS; step two, when feds come knocking it’s back to Fraudistan. (I know iSteve is a big fan of these type of smash-grab-and-flees.) It all comes down to blocking and tackling.

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  80. @syonredux
    The spectre of eugenics never sleeps:


    <blockquote>Britain’s largest sperm bank has been turning away donors with dyslexia in what it describes as attempts to “minimise the risk of transmitting common genetic diseases or malformations to any children born”.

    In a practice branded “eugenics” by campaigners and a would-be donor, the London Sperm Bank has banned men with dyslexia or other common conditions it described as “neurological diseases” from donating.


    A leaflet to donors lists a series of conditions the clinic screens for, including: attention deficit disorder (ADD), attention deficit hyperactivity disorder [ADHD], autism, Asperger syndrome, dyslexia and the motor disorder dyspraxia.
     

    Steve O’Brien, chair of the Dyslexia Foundation and a board member of the International Dyslexia Association, said: “This is eugenics. It’s trying to say that dyslexics shouldn’t be in society. But we’re moving into a visually dominated world of Instagram and YouTube where given the right tools it is no longer an issue, because people with dyslexia are right-brained often with hyper-visual skills.
     
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/29/largest-uk-sperm-bank-turns-away-dyslexic-donors

    Caplan makes the distinction between hard and soft eugenics, the former being more closely associated with Nazi Germany and the killing of so-called undesirables. Soft eugenics, or what’s often referred to as positive eugenics, is the attempt to make better babies. So, in the sense that sperm banks are promoting and encouraging the idea of having babies built to order, then yes, it can be referred to as a form of positive eugenics.

    “In this case, customers are selecting for traits they want, and avoiding traits they don’t want,” Caplan explained to Gizmodo.

    Bioethicist Nigel Cameron, the president of the Center for Policy on Emerging Technologies, says the practice is absolutely eugenics— and that sperm banks are starting to take it too far. “There is something inherently eugenic about assisted reproduction unless donations are accepted, by clinics and recipients, sight unseen,” he told Gizmodo. “When we take this to the extent they have, banning the color blind, we are wading in deep.”

     

    http://gizmodo.com/are-sperm-banks-in-the-business-of-eugenics-1750320665

    The interesting thing is they stopped accepting ginger donors years ago, and nobody cared. Now apparently it’s worse to exclude dyslexics than to exclude gingers.

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    Also, men under 6 feet tall. And I'm guessing the only reason they still accept non-whites is the shitstorm they'd get into if they didn't.
  81. Theranos bumped up against all blood tests getting less expensive. We have walk in blood test discounters in my area and you can get the tests done 100% privately without an MD’s authorization. Blood tests have become commodified. I would be going to go with these guys that draw blood into one vial or a few vials depending on how many tests you get at the same time. They will be less expensive. But so far my tests have been covered by insurance.

    The main advantage of Theranos was a pin prick and just taking a drop or two? Theranos overestimated how many people hated blood being drawn and wanted it done via a pin prick. Instinctively I would go for large volume via vials than relying on just a few drops of blood to analyze. Plus this kind of “miniaturization” is going to cost lots more. Theranos found out it could not be done. Not now at least and not at a good enough price and not quickly deliverable. FAIL!

    And my local blood test discounters also do inexpensive B12 shots. So I got a few just because I heard so much about them.

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    Theranos bumped up against all blood tests getting less expensive. We have walk in blood test discounters in my area and you can get the tests done 100% privately without an MD’s authorization.
     
    Can you point me to any documentation? I'm curious about their services offered, pricing, and whether or not there really is an MD signing off on the tests. For comparison, http://www.lifeextension.com/Vitamins-Supplements/Blood-Tests/Blood-Tests offers a fairly comprehensive CBC and metabolic panel for $47 (on sale for $35 now) as well as a great variety of other tests. They have an in-house MD who signs off on the order and you just go to the local LabCorp draw site. Test results are sent via email and/or postal mail in a few days They do not offer tests in NY or MD IIRC.
    Also, how much of the decrease in lab costs has been a competitive response to Theranos and other newcomers exposing the excessive pricing of Quest and LabCorp?

    Regarding Theranos pricing, consider a Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (less comprehensive than the LEF test above, CPT:80053) for $7.19 at Theranos. They quote Other labs: $17.00 - $27.40 and Consumer Reports lists a National fair price of$30 and a National range of $15 - 135.
    http://consumerhealthchoices.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Comprehensive-Metabolic-Panel-HCBB.pdf

    The main advantage of Theranos was a pin prick and just taking a drop or two?

     

    Although they touted that heavily, I always thought the big advantage was the pricing: https://www.theranos.com/test-menu
  82. The black turtle neck sweater uniform screams “poseur”.

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    The black turtle neck sweater uniform screams “poseur”.
     
    "Poseuse" in the case of a fondatrice like her.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    IIRC, Holmes said she decided to wear the same outfit all the time so no one would focus on her clothes (though, if that were true, you'd figure she wouldn't have gone for the Steve Jobs look).
  83. @Ron Unz
    One detail in the first big WSJ expose of the Theranos Hoax(?) really stuck in my mind...

    Apparently, her top technical guy was some experienced scientist in the field, who was an early hire in the company and was responsible for actually getting the "revolutionary new technology" built while she was going around celebrity cocktail-parties as the PR person armed with her reality-distortion field.

    According to the WSJ article, a couple of years ago that top technical guy left a note saying "It Just Doesn't Work!" and committed suicide. Naturally, none of the venture-capital firms paid any attention to that minor detail, and continued pouring in their mega-oceans of new funding.

    Perhaps I've getting a few details garbled in my memory, so be sure to check the WSJ article for yourself...

    Yup, that’s a huge detail in the October 2015 WSJ article that kicked off the latest round:

    In 2005, Ms. Holmes hired Ian Gibbons, a British biochemist who had researched systems to handle and process tiny quantities of fluids. His collaboration with other Theranos scientists produced 23 patents, according to records filed with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. Ms. Holmes is listed as a co-inventor on 19 of the patents.

    The patents show how Ms. Holmes’s original idea morphed into the company’s business model. But progress was slow. Dr. Gibbons “told me nothing was working,” says his widow, Rochelle.

    In May 2013, Dr. Gibbons committed suicide. Theranos’s Ms. King says the scientist “was frequently absent from work in the last years of his life, due to health and other problems.” Theranos disputes the claim that its technology was failing.

    After Dr. Gibbons’s widow spoke to a Journal reporter, a lawyer representing Theranos sent her a letter threatening to sue her if she continued to make “false statements” about Ms. Holmes and disclose confidential information. Ms. Gibbons owns Theranos shares that she inherited from her husband.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/theranos-has-struggled-with-blood-tests-1444881901

    I couldn’t find anything before that WSJ article online about the poor man’s death other than a few perfunctory death websites. So that is probably not something that was all that widely known.

    It appears there was a big board shakeup a few months after the scientist killing himself.

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    Question: If Ms. Holmes did follow through on her threat to file suit vs. Ms. Gibbons and Ms. Gibbons testified under oath as to what her late husband, Dr. Gibbons informed her re: Theranos, wouldn't that help strengthen her claims that "nothing was working"? This might be considered deathbed testimony, which in a court of law is very, very strong testimony indeed. If the late Dr. confided to other close family members the contents of his research findings this could only serve to help strengthen his claim that the patents and therefore Theranos itself, is a complete failure. So Ms. Holmes could be bluffing, hoping to scare Ms. Gibbons into silence. After all, a lot of things could come out in a public trial, not all of them very good for Theranos' future.
  84. @Vinay
    "female Steve Jobs"

    You could reasonably have written off pretty much every single thing Steve Jobs did as a stooopid idea which'll never work, until it actually did.

    It's really hard to figure out which tech ideas are brilliant and which are stupid. Heck, most of the employees of a tech startup don't have any real insight into whether they are working on a great product or a fundamentally dumb idea. Even when a company fails, it doesn't necessarily mean its detractors knew what the hell they were talking about.

    Given Theranos huge valuation, I'm highly skeptical of any simple story explaining why it's a fraud. Solyndra's failure didn't validate Republican skepticism about alternate energy -- like a stopped clock, they also mocked Tesla. Likewise, if Theranos fails, it'll say nothing at all about women founder of tech startups. Or even about Elizabeth Holmes!

    By the way, this also highlights why liberals are so reluctant to acknowledge race and gender differences. Whatever differences exist are stastistical in nature and are pretty useless in predicting individual success or failure. But it's just too tempting to judge a female CEO or a black President to their race or gender when analyzing their success or failure.

    But it’s just too tempting to judge a female CEO or a black President to their race or gender when analyzing their success or failure.

    This is a classic example of the false narrative that liberals like you keep pushing. There is ONLY ONE REAL reason this company and individual is talked about – and that is because she is a woman. She was made famous because she is a woman, if this was a white man nobody would be talking about it, the people judging her are the people that decided to make her famous because of gender, the one falling to temptation is in fact you.

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    "There is ONLY ONE REAL reason this company and individual is talked about – and that is because she's a woman"

    You think a private company gets a 9 billion dollar valuation simply because it's led by a woman? Then Steve has done a terrible job of educating his readers about how diversity boosting works.

    Yes, a top female CEO would get a lot of attention even if there are lots of companies run by male CEOs which are bigger or doing better. There's nothing particularly surprising or nefarious about this. That's completely different from imagining that a company would be overvalued by an order of magnitude because of people's warm fuzzies towards the woman CEO.

    If being "realistic" about gender causes people to make such poor judgement calls, then they're better off being PC. Frankly, Western political correctness may be annoying at times but it handily outperforms countries and states which are supposedly more realistic about race and gender.
  85. Elizabeth Holmes, Theranos: Transforming Healthcare by Embracing Failure

    Yeah, baby, that’ll do it. Embrace failure.

    Even her voice and cadence of speech are (bad) copies of Steve Jobs. Another case of female projection. She must have had some crush for the man, so she has become him.

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    Her manner is very affected. This is an actor playing a role, i.e., con job.

    Some other superficial observations. Her facial skin is loose and sagging already. I'd be stressed and prematurely aging too if I were taking other people's money for my bullshit product. I'd be interested to see what a sophisticated interrogator thinks of her presentation. She looks defensive and unsure even though she's getting a gentle tongue bath from the interviewer. Top executives are forceful, charismatic people but she is doing nothing to capture the room. The haphazard hairdo is really odd as well.

    I agree there has to be more to this story. Dad's a USAID bureaucrat? If I'm George Schultz, you'll have to do better than that. Who is propping this woman up? Who's her puppetmaster? She doesn't strike me as having the moxie to ringlead something like this. Why is she such a heavy hitter despite her utter lack of credentials and institutional memberships?

    If this were a public company she would or should have the SEC/DOJ buzzing around her. As it is, she'll probably just have a few investor lawsuits.
    , @peterike
    Jesus cracker. Her voice in this video is terrible, like half a retard. At any moment I expected her to say, "Tell me about the rabbits, George."
    , @Kylie
    WTF--?

    Forget Theranos. Judging by her voice, what she needs is Theraflu.
    , @Chet
    Interesting and very telling anecdote about designing a time machine when she was "really young"
    She talks about it with enormous pride, like it was a great success and a formative "achievement." Naturally, her micro-sampling blood tester is already an equally great success. She learned at an early age that as a girl, it is enough simply that she wants a machine to exist and can wax on about how useful it could be.
    While there may be supposed benefits to a lowered voice wrt commanding authority etc., is there any evidence that this is not her natural voice? She signals something very transgendery in interviews.
  86. @SnakeEyes
    The black turtle neck sweater uniform screams "poseur".

    The black turtle neck sweater uniform screams “poseur”.

    “Poseuse” in the case of a fondatrice like her.

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  87. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Speaking of Jennifer Lawrence, how come she wasn't cast in the new Star Wars film? Is she too old for the lead or something? Or maybe Lucas will cast her as one of the main baddies in the next installment, so she can face off vs. the new heroine?

    Speaking of Jennifer Lawrence, how come she wasn’t cast in the new Star Wars film?

    Since she’s from Louisville, she may be holding out for the next installment of “Mall Cop”.

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    Wonderful!

    I always enjoy your comments but you really outdid yourself with this one.
  88. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Ok, who is this young wunderkind related to? In all the various parts to the story that appears to be the one that is either downplayed or conveniently omitted. She just happens to be a Stanford dropout? So what? Lots of students drop out of Stanford but they don't get to have big wigs sitting on their board of their startup. And she didn't have to go thru gofundme or kickstarter to raise the necessary capital.

    Are we supposed to believe that she didn't come from a well connected/mega wealthy family in her own right? She's not distantly related to the actress Katie Holmes? Or someone on her mother's side is some third generation Hewlett Packard co-founding member?

    There's something there. There just has to be. Richard Sherman, he of the NFL, did actually graduate from Stanford and so did QB Andrew Luck. So if this Holmes is some middle class nobody in her own right who couldn't cut the mustard at Stanford but happened to just luck into meeting George Schultz?

    It doesn't make sense, it doesn't add up, and there's something there somewhere.

    Come on, who is she really? Is she George Schultz's great-granddaughter or distant seventh cousin once removed from Lee Kwan Yew? Or Chelsea's step-cousin? Somehow, somewhere there is an answer.

    Ok, who is this young wunderkind related to?

    I was thinking Rupert Holmes, who wrote paeans to piña colada and cannibalism (“Timothy, Timothy, Joe was lookin’ at you; Timothy, Timothy, God what did we do?”)

    But he was born David Goldstein, so no dice. Unless he’s related through her yeasty Jewish connection.

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  89. @reiner Tor
    The interesting thing is they stopped accepting ginger donors years ago, and nobody cared. Now apparently it's worse to exclude dyslexics than to exclude gingers.

    Also, men under 6 feet tall. And I’m guessing the only reason they still accept non-whites is the shitstorm they’d get into if they didn’t.

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  90. regarding this link http://www.mondaynote.com/2015/10/18/theranos-trouble-a-first-person-account/

    the author only listed two items in the CBC. The CBC according to the theranos website has six items, so he is probably omitting stuff

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  91. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Speaking of Jennifer Lawrence, how come she wasn't cast in the new Star Wars film? Is she too old for the lead or something? Or maybe Lucas will cast her as one of the main baddies in the next installment, so she can face off vs. the new heroine?

    Probably a combination of Disney wanting to save a few $$$ on their billions-grossing movie (TBF you don’t need big stars – it’s Star Wars!), and J-Law not wanting to torpedo her career like nearly all of the actors who’ve appeared in the series.*

    *Hayden Christiansen has been rather unconvincingly claiming his lack of post-SW prequel roles was because he lost interest in acting, in the round of interviews for his new film, some direct-to-video Bible-thumper thing.

    Carrie Fisher for her part likes to claim that she was frozen out because Hollywood loses interest in female actors after they turn 40, and not because she became an overweight cokehead.

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    They could both be true, you know. And being a cokehead never stopped Dennis Hopper.

    Ask Roissy about sexual market value. Guys want to see young women, not so much old ones. Just because the feminists are wrong about so much doesn't mean they're wrong about *everything*.
  92. @Steve Sailer
    The New Yorker reporter says she drops her voice an octave when she gets up on stage to give a speech, presumably to sound more authoritative.

    I was joking. As you and the other commenters to your post point out, there is obviously a calculated strategy to lowering her voice. Apparently, the lower her voice goes, the higher the valuation of her company goes. Too bad it’s privately owned. Looks like it would be a good short.

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  93. @anonymous
    OT: "...Merkel said. “It is important not to follow those who, with coldness or even hate in their hearts, want to claim Germanness solely for themselves and exclude others.”...

    Yes! We are all Germans now! Deutschland über alles at last! The last surviving nazi zombie vampire from Antarctica did manage to slip the potion into Merkel's drink, I guess.

    "Hate in their hearts"? I seem to be hearing "haters gotta hate" a lot on the radio recently, I suppose it's the approved response to all those who might not be instantly ready to announce they have become German overnight. The poor souls who don't realize they've been Trans-Germaned all along.

    “haters gotta hate”

    Yes, another in a long line of socially approved banalities. I wonder if anyone’s ever assembled an authoritative list of such things. It would have to include:

    “Don’t trust anyone over 30.”

    “Spiritual not religious.”

    “America is an immigrant nation.”

    “American is a propositional nation.”

    “It takes a village.”

    etc.

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    In fact, it does take a village.

    That may be the only accurate statement that she has made.
  94. Anyone remember Canadian gold miner Bre-X who were hyped, crashed then burned in late 1990s? On their international advisory board: ex Canadian PM Brian Mulroney, former U.S. president George Bush and former Bundesbank head Karl Otto Pöhl. QED.

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  95. @TangoMan
    OT- Merkel claims that Germaness is a state of mind:

    “Next year is about one thing in particular: our cohesion,” Merkel said. “It is important not to follow those who, with coldness or even hate in their hearts, want to claim Germanness solely for themselves and exclude others.”
     

    Well, yes, she thinks you can turn people into Germans, that’s pretty much the idea behind her refugee admissions.

    Is she right? We’ll see… I suspect they’ll get a permanent underclass, but that’s just me.

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    "Well, yes, she thinks you can turn people into Germans, that’s pretty much the idea behind her refugee admissions."

    Well, that view might be excusable if not for Germany's experience with the Turks. As I recall, the former PM Helmut Schmidt (who died recently at 97 or 98---all that smoking finally caught up with him) concluded that admitting Turks after WWII to fill the labor gap was a big mistake, and I thought Frau Merkel herself admitted the same last year. Ironically, I think one reason that the EU countries have subscribed to this mass immigration nonsense is that they think they are emulating the U.S. after seeing how successful and powerful the U.S. became as a result of its past immigration policies. (The EU is basically an attempt to follow what they think is the U.S. form of government.) What they don't realize is that many of those past immigrants who made America great were Germans and other Europeans until the law was changed in 1965.
  96. @snorlax
    Probably a combination of Disney wanting to save a few $$$ on their billions-grossing movie (TBF you don't need big stars - it's Star Wars!), and J-Law not wanting to torpedo her career like nearly all of the actors who've appeared in the series.*

    *Hayden Christiansen has been rather unconvincingly claiming his lack of post-SW prequel roles was because he lost interest in acting, in the round of interviews for his new film, some direct-to-video Bible-thumper thing.

    Carrie Fisher for her part likes to claim that she was frozen out because Hollywood loses interest in female actors after they turn 40, and not because she became an overweight cokehead.

    They could both be true, you know. And being a cokehead never stopped Dennis Hopper.

    Ask Roissy about sexual market value. Guys want to see young women, not so much old ones. Just because the feminists are wrong about so much doesn’t mean they’re wrong about *everything*.

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    I was going to mention as an aside that Fisher wasn't exactly wrong about Hollywood, just delusional about her own particular case. But I'd written a bit of a long run-on sentence already.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Just because the feminists are wrong about so much doesn’t mean they’re wrong about *everything*.
     
    Race-realist Michael Levin proposed that feminism is the first system of thought that manages to be wrong every single time. No male philosophy can claim that.
  97. @Anonymous
    Lots of BMR - Beta Male Rage - in this thread.....

    It was like my right-wing friends who wanted to vote for Sarah Palin because she was cute. I finally won with, ‘Do you care about your girlfriend’s opinion on politics?’

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    I would have voted against John McCain regardless of whom he picked as his running mate. His selection of Palin simply confirmed that he lacked the judgment to be President. Icing on the cake, so to speak.
    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    This "right-winger" wanted to vote for Sarah Palin because she was the only one of the presidential and vice-presidential candidates who had any experience in an executive branch of government and because in both those instances -- Mayor of ??? and Governor of Alsaka -- her performance was better than just adequate as opposed to non=-existent.
  98. @TangoMan
    A leaflet to donors lists a series of conditions the clinic screens for, including: attention deficit disorder (ADD), attention deficit hyperactivity disorder [ADHD], autism, Asperger syndrome, dyslexia and the motor disorder dyspraxia.

    HOW do they screen? Likely they screen by asking sperm donors to be honest. If these anti-eugenics people are so upset about parents screening for good traits, then they can disrupt the process by creating fictional accomplishments and donating sperm and siring vast numbers of children afflicted with dyslexia, ADD, ADHD, autism, etc and sit back and wait for the Jodie Fosters of the world to sue the sperm banks for misleading advertising.

    You could argue sociopathy is a positive trait these days. At least for you.

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    You could argue sociopathy is a positive trait these days. At least for you.
     
    Sperm banks are institutionalized sociopathy. That they can't be sued by their spawn is criminal.
  99. Off topic (a little), but remember Hedy Lamarr? She actually did have a new idea for broadcast spectrum, but didn’t have the engineering chops to make it work, so she found someone who did. This being the forties, she was able to put aside her ego, and people weren’t looking for Susan Jobs, as Nick Steves says, and we were able to put her actual talents to work…

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    Interesting coincidence: Just yesterday I was describing Hedy Lamarr to a young woman at my current consulting location. I had to refresh my memory of her inventions -- she actually had several significant ones -- on Wikipedia. Although it was not used until long after WW II, due to technical difficulties with implementation, her idea for synchronized frequency variation is the foundation for most broadband applications today. And Ms. Lamarr was also drop-dead gorgeous. At her first US movie premierre there were audible gasps of admiration from the audience when she first appeared on screen. Judging from the photos here, Ms Holmes wouldn't cause any necks to turn at the better watering spots I've had occassion to visit.
  100. @SFG
    They could both be true, you know. And being a cokehead never stopped Dennis Hopper.

    Ask Roissy about sexual market value. Guys want to see young women, not so much old ones. Just because the feminists are wrong about so much doesn't mean they're wrong about *everything*.

    I was going to mention as an aside that Fisher wasn’t exactly wrong about Hollywood, just delusional about her own particular case. But I’d written a bit of a long run-on sentence already.

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  101. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Ok, who is this young wunderkind related to? In all the various parts to the story that appears to be the one that is either downplayed or conveniently omitted. She just happens to be a Stanford dropout? So what? Lots of students drop out of Stanford but they don't get to have big wigs sitting on their board of their startup. And she didn't have to go thru gofundme or kickstarter to raise the necessary capital.

    Are we supposed to believe that she didn't come from a well connected/mega wealthy family in her own right? She's not distantly related to the actress Katie Holmes? Or someone on her mother's side is some third generation Hewlett Packard co-founding member?

    There's something there. There just has to be. Richard Sherman, he of the NFL, did actually graduate from Stanford and so did QB Andrew Luck. So if this Holmes is some middle class nobody in her own right who couldn't cut the mustard at Stanford but happened to just luck into meeting George Schultz?

    It doesn't make sense, it doesn't add up, and there's something there somewhere.

    Come on, who is she really? Is she George Schultz's great-granddaughter or distant seventh cousin once removed from Lee Kwan Yew? Or Chelsea's step-cousin? Somehow, somewhere there is an answer.

    I think that Steve did an article on Richard Sherman and how he would not have been accepted at Stanford if he were not black and/or a great football player. From what I can remember, Sherman is probably well above average in intelligence but not really Stanford “material.”

    But, I think the point is not that Holmes couldn’t make it at Stanford. The point is to show that you have the ability to get a degree from an extremely prestigious university, something that most people can only dream of, and then drop out because you are just, as the saying goes, too cool for school. Didn’t Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg drop out of Harvard? It’s kind of a conspicuous consumption thing.

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  102. LOL. Seeing pictures of her with all those dessicated old alte kochers reminded me of the same type of pics one is always seeing in the tabloids except that the old farts in those pictures own sports teams and the pretty young thing has a solid reputation for giving great blow jobs. (OMG!! Did I just accidentally reveal the real secret of Ms. Holmes success?)

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  103. @SFG
    Off topic (a little), but remember Hedy Lamarr? She actually did have a new idea for broadcast spectrum, but didn't have the engineering chops to make it work, so she found someone who did. This being the forties, she was able to put aside her ego, and people weren't looking for Susan Jobs, as Nick Steves says, and we were able to put her actual talents to work...

    Interesting coincidence: Just yesterday I was describing Hedy Lamarr to a young woman at my current consulting location. I had to refresh my memory of her inventions — she actually had several significant ones — on Wikipedia. Although it was not used until long after WW II, due to technical difficulties with implementation, her idea for synchronized frequency variation is the foundation for most broadband applications today. And Ms. Lamarr was also drop-dead gorgeous. At her first US movie premierre there were audible gasps of admiration from the audience when she first appeared on screen. Judging from the photos here, Ms Holmes wouldn’t cause any necks to turn at the better watering spots I’ve had occassion to visit.

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    @hhsiii
    All I know is she can distort the reality of my field any time.

    All I know is she can distort the reality of my field any time.

    Although I don’t care for blondes, she’s fairly attractive.
    What do you call a blonde who dyes her hair black? Artificial intelligence.

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    I don't get your meaning. Your hair color preference is your own business, but connecting it with intellect the way you have is strange. Natural blonds (I assume you mean natural ones, since you refer to dying hair dark) are largely from northern and eastern Europe, and the IQs from among people of those areas are among the highest in the world. The "dumb blonde" stereotype was a Hollywood trope and referred to dyed blondes of a very unnatural palett, and an affected childlike voice. Tow-headed blond is associated with children, so that may be it.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    What do you call a blonde who dyes her hair black?
     
    Minnesotan.

    Makes her look exotic. Around here, anyway.
  105. @Dave Pinsen
    Mast Brothers. I bought one their bars on sale once at Whole Foods. Beautiful packaging, but it tasted like baking chocolate. Speaking of which:

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/681316878623584256

    I heard that these guys are going to change their names to “Smith” and go into the cough drop business.

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  106. “This kind of fake-it-until-you-make-it strategy is hardly unknown” This is how I have made my way though life!

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    @Steve Sailer
    Right, getting blood taken from the inside of my elbow is pretty straightforward, but I'm squeamish about getting jabbed in the finger.

    Right, getting blood taken from the inside of my elbow is pretty straightforward, but I’m squeamish about getting jabbed in the finger.

    A company trying to base itself on prick-less technology naturally needs to have a feminine female heading it. And if a company is based on just a little prick, under the thumb, than they need to tap Lindsay Graham as CEO.

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  108. @JLoHo
    I'm so with you on this!

    There's something here...but what?

    I mean, let’s just take the Occam’s Razor approach. What is the usual connection between good looking young blondes and rich, powerful men?

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  109. @Anonymous
    Jobs could at least intimidate the nerds under him to come up with something when necessary. Holmes doesn't have that luxury as a woman. A woman boss just can't inspire or intimidate male underlings to pull through.

    They can intimidate, but they cannot inspire.

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  110. @SFG
    They could both be true, you know. And being a cokehead never stopped Dennis Hopper.

    Ask Roissy about sexual market value. Guys want to see young women, not so much old ones. Just because the feminists are wrong about so much doesn't mean they're wrong about *everything*.

    Just because the feminists are wrong about so much doesn’t mean they’re wrong about *everything*.

    Race-realist Michael Levin proposed that feminism is the first system of thought that manages to be wrong every single time. No male philosophy can claim that.

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    Neo-cons?
    , @Hibernian
    Try Marxism.
    , @dcite
    "Male philosophy?" I never thought of philosophy breaking down that way. Everybody with any self-awareness wonders about why they exist (and even more about why other people exist.) Everybody forms some kind of thought system. Even the most indifferent student has some wiring ready to plug in the concepts. I don't know what "feminism" as a "thought system" is, beyond the push for legal equality. Everything else is Alice Through the Looking Glass. Apparently the ladies are now more equal than men, so perhaps in the pursuit of justice for all, the "thought system" should go retrograde.
  111. Fascinating saga. We simply won’t know the truth until Salon deconstructs it for us.

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  112. @Vinay
    "female Steve Jobs"

    You could reasonably have written off pretty much every single thing Steve Jobs did as a stooopid idea which'll never work, until it actually did.

    It's really hard to figure out which tech ideas are brilliant and which are stupid. Heck, most of the employees of a tech startup don't have any real insight into whether they are working on a great product or a fundamentally dumb idea. Even when a company fails, it doesn't necessarily mean its detractors knew what the hell they were talking about.

    Given Theranos huge valuation, I'm highly skeptical of any simple story explaining why it's a fraud. Solyndra's failure didn't validate Republican skepticism about alternate energy -- like a stopped clock, they also mocked Tesla. Likewise, if Theranos fails, it'll say nothing at all about women founder of tech startups. Or even about Elizabeth Holmes!

    By the way, this also highlights why liberals are so reluctant to acknowledge race and gender differences. Whatever differences exist are stastistical in nature and are pretty useless in predicting individual success or failure. But it's just too tempting to judge a female CEO or a black President to their race or gender when analyzing their success or failure.

    Easy to judge, in retrospect. And in retrospect, we aren’t judging by race or gender, but by results.

    In Theranos’ case, I’m sympathetic to your argument.

    In the case of, say, Obama, his observable failures are only partly due to race, and even those are incidental to his actual race, instead caused by his bad intentions amplified by how he views race relative to his ideology.

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  113. Hmmm, hot young blonde manages to get older male has-beens to do what she wants because she mysteriously manages to appeal to them? Notice her board comprises people with government contacts, but nobody who knows anything about business or science. But all guys who probably more easily fall for some hot chick whispering in their ears and stoking their egos.

    I perceive that a lot of feminism’s success is thanks to powerful but on the decline older guys who sentimentally promote females while simultaneously undercutting the up and coming younger males. Promote the cute and smart young female (who reminds you of your daughter?) and be happy while remaining in charge, or promote that fired-up young male who is seeking to supplant you.

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  114. @SFG
    Well, yes, she thinks you can turn people into Germans, that's pretty much the idea behind her refugee admissions.

    Is she right? We'll see... I suspect they'll get a permanent underclass, but that's just me.

    “Well, yes, she thinks you can turn people into Germans, that’s pretty much the idea behind her refugee admissions.”

    Well, that view might be excusable if not for Germany’s experience with the Turks. As I recall, the former PM Helmut Schmidt (who died recently at 97 or 98—all that smoking finally caught up with him) concluded that admitting Turks after WWII to fill the labor gap was a big mistake, and I thought Frau Merkel herself admitted the same last year. Ironically, I think one reason that the EU countries have subscribed to this mass immigration nonsense is that they think they are emulating the U.S. after seeing how successful and powerful the U.S. became as a result of its past immigration policies. (The EU is basically an attempt to follow what they think is the U.S. form of government.) What they don’t realize is that many of those past immigrants who made America great were Germans and other Europeans until the law was changed in 1965.

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  115. @spandrell
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLTAFbKbC8w

    Elizabeth Holmes, Theranos: Transforming Healthcare by Embracing Failure

    Yeah, baby, that'll do it. Embrace failure.

    Even her voice and cadence of speech are (bad) copies of Steve Jobs. Another case of female projection. She must have had some crush for the man, so she has become him.

    Her manner is very affected. This is an actor playing a role, i.e., con job.

    Some other superficial observations. Her facial skin is loose and sagging already. I’d be stressed and prematurely aging too if I were taking other people’s money for my bullshit product. I’d be interested to see what a sophisticated interrogator thinks of her presentation. She looks defensive and unsure even though she’s getting a gentle tongue bath from the interviewer. Top executives are forceful, charismatic people but she is doing nothing to capture the room. The haphazard hairdo is really odd as well.

    I agree there has to be more to this story. Dad’s a USAID bureaucrat? If I’m George Schultz, you’ll have to do better than that. Who is propping this woman up? Who’s her puppetmaster? She doesn’t strike me as having the moxie to ringlead something like this. Why is she such a heavy hitter despite her utter lack of credentials and institutional memberships?

    If this were a public company she would or should have the SEC/DOJ buzzing around her. As it is, she’ll probably just have a few investor lawsuits.

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  116. @SFG
    It was like my right-wing friends who wanted to vote for Sarah Palin because she was cute. I finally won with, 'Do you care about your girlfriend's opinion on politics?'

    I would have voted against John McCain regardless of whom he picked as his running mate. His selection of Palin simply confirmed that he lacked the judgment to be President. Icing on the cake, so to speak.

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  117. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @snorlax
    Also, men under 6 feet tall. And I'm guessing the only reason they still accept non-whites is the shitstorm they'd get into if they didn't.

    Do they accept donors who are gay?

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  118. @neutral

    But it’s just too tempting to judge a female CEO or a black President to their race or gender when analyzing their success or failure.
     
    This is a classic example of the false narrative that liberals like you keep pushing. There is ONLY ONE REAL reason this company and individual is talked about - and that is because she is a woman. She was made famous because she is a woman, if this was a white man nobody would be talking about it, the people judging her are the people that decided to make her famous because of gender, the one falling to temptation is in fact you.

    “There is ONLY ONE REAL reason this company and individual is talked about – and that is because she’s a woman”

    You think a private company gets a 9 billion dollar valuation simply because it’s led by a woman? Then Steve has done a terrible job of educating his readers about how diversity boosting works.

    Yes, a top female CEO would get a lot of attention even if there are lots of companies run by male CEOs which are bigger or doing better. There’s nothing particularly surprising or nefarious about this. That’s completely different from imagining that a company would be overvalued by an order of magnitude because of people’s warm fuzzies towards the woman CEO.

    If being “realistic” about gender causes people to make such poor judgement calls, then they’re better off being PC. Frankly, Western political correctness may be annoying at times but it handily outperforms countries and states which are supposedly more realistic about race and gender.

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    You think a private company gets a 9 billion dollar valuation ...
     
    9 bigguns? Sez who amigo?
  119. It’s obvious why all those old men – horndogs like Henry the K – agreed to be on the board. It gives them an excuse to socialize with a young, pretty, smart girl without the pressure of having to buy her a condo and keep her away from their wives. Plus they get a few tens of thousands of dollars in compensation and a comped trip to the board-meeting. It’s like having a Geisha that pays you.

    Ms. Holmes seems smart in a generic sort of way – smart enough to be a good bullshit artist, anyway. America has always been fertile soil for bullshit artists.

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  120. Her problem is that she is waiting for Moore’s law to come to her rescue, but it’s not enough. Steve Jobs’ mobile computer visions were fairy tales until he both found the necessary pieces (especially the multi-touch idea, which is the key to the iPhone and iPad interface) AND brought the size, functionality and price within range by Moore’s law technology improvements.

    She’s following the Jobs playbook of bamboozling investors and browbeating engineers until the pieces fall into place. Which they haven’t.

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  121. I’ve read Steve Sailer’s article and dilgently read through 96 comments, but I’m still not sure whether the Theranos business is a scam.

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  122. Hey Steve, I don’t know if you use Muckety.com

    It makes constructing a chain of the powers that shouldn’t be of infinite length trivial.

    Here’s what you get with William J. Perry- similar is available for the other Theranos Directors.

    http://www.muckety.com/7F49977740A3EF35C3FD32ECEC03E512.map

    I’m sure the six degrees of separation is down to no more than 4 for these people.

    The Muckety database must unknowing hold the tale of many crimes.

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  123. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Speaking of Jennifer Lawrence, how come she wasn't cast in the new Star Wars film? Is she too old for the lead or something? Or maybe Lucas will cast her as one of the main baddies in the next installment, so she can face off vs. the new heroine?

    Uh, you do know that Episode IV and V made Harrison Ford a superstar. So again, why not cast Lawrence, as one of the main baddies. Has the Hunger Games ruined her career?

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    • Replies: @V Vega

    Uh, you do know that Episode IV and V made Harrison Ford a superstar. So again, why not cast Lawrence, as one of the main baddies. Has the Hunger Games ruined her career?
     
    Her height, bone density, and weight. That chick is huge. When you have a featured player that big and tall, you have to cast the people around her at a corresponding height, unless you're casting for comedy. His ex-wife aside, there generally ain't no tall folks in a Tom Cruise film. Teensy actor Ben Stiller, on the other hand, will cast women taller than him.
  124. Investors and the media have fallen in love with the idea of the pretty (or at least young) female founder. Another example is Shirleen Yates, who wondered outloud if it might be possible to create a small sensor for people with gluten sensitivity to carry around.

    She happened to mention it to a guy who is a real engineer; he did all the work, along with a half-dozen other male engineers. Now they have a product, the Nima food sensor.

    But Ms. Yates is credited as a “founder”. And of course she’s the one prominently shown in their company video. Her degree? International relations. Oh, and her parents are Iranian immigrants.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    $4 for a disposable capsule and a $200 device to detect gluten antigen? This can be done with paper strips for about $1. See: pregnancy test strips.
  125. A what point is a board overloaded with high profile worthies who know nothing about the specific business or industry (or finance or business management in general) and are chosen because they are people in the news?

    Also how can I get some nice board appointments, the ones where you show up once a year and vote the way management tells you?

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  126. @TangoMan
    A leaflet to donors lists a series of conditions the clinic screens for, including: attention deficit disorder (ADD), attention deficit hyperactivity disorder [ADHD], autism, Asperger syndrome, dyslexia and the motor disorder dyspraxia.

    HOW do they screen? Likely they screen by asking sperm donors to be honest. If these anti-eugenics people are so upset about parents screening for good traits, then they can disrupt the process by creating fictional accomplishments and donating sperm and siring vast numbers of children afflicted with dyslexia, ADD, ADHD, autism, etc and sit back and wait for the Jodie Fosters of the world to sue the sperm banks for misleading advertising.

    I have to agree. If I was evil and had ADD, I would make it a point to donate to this sperm bank.

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  127. @Steve Sailer
    Yup, that's a huge detail in the October 2015 WSJ article that kicked off the latest round:


    In 2005, Ms. Holmes hired Ian Gibbons, a British biochemist who had researched systems to handle and process tiny quantities of fluids. His collaboration with other Theranos scientists produced 23 patents, according to records filed with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. Ms. Holmes is listed as a co-inventor on 19 of the patents.

    The patents show how Ms. Holmes’s original idea morphed into the company’s business model. But progress was slow. Dr. Gibbons “told me nothing was working,” says his widow, Rochelle.

    In May 2013, Dr. Gibbons committed suicide. Theranos’s Ms. King says the scientist “was frequently absent from work in the last years of his life, due to health and other problems.” Theranos disputes the claim that its technology was failing.

    After Dr. Gibbons’s widow spoke to a Journal reporter, a lawyer representing Theranos sent her a letter threatening to sue her if she continued to make “false statements” about Ms. Holmes and disclose confidential information. Ms. Gibbons owns Theranos shares that she inherited from her husband.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/theranos-has-struggled-with-blood-tests-1444881901

    I couldn't find anything before that WSJ article online about the poor man's death other than a few perfunctory death websites. So that is probably not something that was all that widely known.

    It appears there was a big board shakeup a few months after the scientist killing himself.

    Question: If Ms. Holmes did follow through on her threat to file suit vs. Ms. Gibbons and Ms. Gibbons testified under oath as to what her late husband, Dr. Gibbons informed her re: Theranos, wouldn’t that help strengthen her claims that “nothing was working”? This might be considered deathbed testimony, which in a court of law is very, very strong testimony indeed. If the late Dr. confided to other close family members the contents of his research findings this could only serve to help strengthen his claim that the patents and therefore Theranos itself, is a complete failure. So Ms. Holmes could be bluffing, hoping to scare Ms. Gibbons into silence. After all, a lot of things could come out in a public trial, not all of them very good for Theranos’ future.

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    Right, but if she does that the value of the stock she owns goes into the toilet. The company is not publicly traded yet, so the smart thing for her to do is to shut up until the IPO and then bail
  128. …to further throw proof that this company is doomed, it was visited by Vice President Biden in July. He effused on how great the technology would be…blah blah blah….in Silicon Valley, a visit by Biden or Obama is the closest thing to the kiss of death!!

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    "…to further throw proof that this company is doomed, it was visited by Vice President Biden in July. He effused on how great the technology would be…blah blah blah….in Silicon Valley, a visit by Biden or Obama is the closest thing to the kiss of death!!"

    Perhaps Holmes and/or other Theranos execs have donated a lot of money to the Obamba/Biden campaign and the Democratic party. Al Gore also made visits to (soon-to-be) failed companies in exchange for donations. Of course Republicans do the same, but they tend to visit defence contractors, which almost never fail, sucklings as they are of the 'National Security' racket.
  129. Warning! Warning! William Daley is involved in this. Anything a Daley is involved in is a failure and usually a fraud. Expect the local airports to be torn up at midnight.

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  130. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Ok, who is this young wunderkind related to? In all the various parts to the story that appears to be the one that is either downplayed or conveniently omitted. She just happens to be a Stanford dropout? So what? Lots of students drop out of Stanford but they don't get to have big wigs sitting on their board of their startup. And she didn't have to go thru gofundme or kickstarter to raise the necessary capital.

    Are we supposed to believe that she didn't come from a well connected/mega wealthy family in her own right? She's not distantly related to the actress Katie Holmes? Or someone on her mother's side is some third generation Hewlett Packard co-founding member?

    There's something there. There just has to be. Richard Sherman, he of the NFL, did actually graduate from Stanford and so did QB Andrew Luck. So if this Holmes is some middle class nobody in her own right who couldn't cut the mustard at Stanford but happened to just luck into meeting George Schultz?

    It doesn't make sense, it doesn't add up, and there's something there somewhere.

    Come on, who is she really? Is she George Schultz's great-granddaughter or distant seventh cousin once removed from Lee Kwan Yew? Or Chelsea's step-cousin? Somehow, somewhere there is an answer.

    I hear John Holmes was very big in his, er, field. Back in the Hirsute Era.

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  131. @Prof. Woland
    I just want to let everyone know that for a short period of time, I am changing my name to the Squire of Gothos.

    No, Trelane.

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  132. There is in fact a large literature on boards of directors in management and social science journals and how it affects the behavior of firms, especially the Fortune 500. Most of this literature is on things like if firm A adopts a new business practice and it shares a board member with firm B, will firm B then adopt the business practice as well? There is also literature on whether firms that are especially core to the network give more money to PACs. And most relevant to your question, there are some articles on whether board networks among firms predict fraud and other types of white collar crime.

    Search for “interlocking boards of directors” in Google Scholar or ask a professor of organizational behavior.

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  133. @Steve Sailer
    Right, getting blood taken from the inside of my elbow is pretty straightforward, but I'm squeamish about getting jabbed in the finger.

    Inside of forearm or higher for me every time.
    Thing is, I actually use my fingers for productive tasks, and can’t chance any of them falling out on parade. Whereas I rarely “elbow-crook” anything, ever. And any mishaps/infections there would result in more serious (and I hope picturesque) symptoms, justifying medical leave. Nearly lost the right arm due to a cannula infection once, blew up like the Elephant Man overnight, and I conked out right in the arms of the (dashed tidy, what? ding! dong!) Chinese lady doctor the minute I made it to A&E. Stupid of me driving really, irresponsible, but the official NHS method would have made me take an aspirin and wait a week. Saves “taxpayers’ ” money.

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  134. “Obviously, she’s good at impressing important men.”
    It seems Silicon Valley can’t help being duped by hot little blondies who are also a bit smarter than average. I get their charms, but it’s a shame if these darlings end up over their heads.

    Exhibit B: Marissa Mayer

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  135. @Clyde
    Theranos bumped up against all blood tests getting less expensive. We have walk in blood test discounters in my area and you can get the tests done 100% privately without an MD's authorization. Blood tests have become commodified. I would be going to go with these guys that draw blood into one vial or a few vials depending on how many tests you get at the same time. They will be less expensive. But so far my tests have been covered by insurance.

    The main advantage of Theranos was a pin prick and just taking a drop or two? Theranos overestimated how many people hated blood being drawn and wanted it done via a pin prick. Instinctively I would go for large volume via vials than relying on just a few drops of blood to analyze. Plus this kind of "miniaturization" is going to cost lots more. Theranos found out it could not be done. Not now at least and not at a good enough price and not quickly deliverable. FAIL!

    And my local blood test discounters also do inexpensive B12 shots. So I got a few just because I heard so much about them.

    Theranos bumped up against all blood tests getting less expensive. We have walk in blood test discounters in my area and you can get the tests done 100% privately without an MD’s authorization.

    Can you point me to any documentation? I’m curious about their services offered, pricing, and whether or not there really is an MD signing off on the tests. For comparison, http://www.lifeextension.com/Vitamins-Supplements/Blood-Tests/Blood-Tests offers a fairly comprehensive CBC and metabolic panel for $47 (on sale for $35 now) as well as a great variety of other tests. They have an in-house MD who signs off on the order and you just go to the local LabCorp draw site. Test results are sent via email and/or postal mail in a few days They do not offer tests in NY or MD IIRC.
    Also, how much of the decrease in lab costs has been a competitive response to Theranos and other newcomers exposing the excessive pricing of Quest and LabCorp?

    Regarding Theranos pricing, consider a Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (less comprehensive than the LEF test above, CPT:80053) for $7.19 at Theranos. They quote Other labs: $17.00 – $27.40 and Consumer Reports lists a National fair price of$30 and a National range of $15 – 135.

    http://consumerhealthchoices.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Comprehensive-Metabolic-Panel-HCBB.pdf

    The main advantage of Theranos was a pin prick and just taking a drop or two?

    Although they touted that heavily, I always thought the big advantage was the pricing: https://www.theranos.com/test-menu

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    Although they touted that heavily, I always thought the big advantage was the pricing: https://www.theranos.com/test-menu
     
    Then Theranos should be doing great.

    My local anylabtestnow will do a wide variety of tests with or without yr doctors consent. Perhaps this differs in other states. Just heard them advertising (on radio) a special of $3000 worth of tests for $1000. Doc or no Doc is not an issue.
  136. My father told me years ago, “If it seems to good to be true, it usually is.” Good advice.

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    My father told me years ago, “If it seems to good to be true, it usually is.” Good advice.
     
    Are you sure he was your father? -- Old Chihuahuan Proverb
  137. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @res

    This sounds like a good data mining project for moneyballing investors: which famous name on boards is most often associated with firms with something to hide?
     
    That's a great idea. Does anyone know of any good sources for company board member data?

    Here is one commercial database: http://datacards.alc.com/market?page=research/datacard&id=56322
    Interesting to see what a small percentage of board members are on more than one BOD (~2% there).

    This looks like a comprehensive source. I wonder what it costs...
    http://thomsonreuters.com/en/products-services/financial/company-data/officers-directors.html

    This site says sec.gov does not have the right data, but does not suggest an alternative: http://e-pluribusunum.org/2014/02/19/rankandfiled-com-is-like-the-secs-edgar-database-but-for-humans/

    It might be possible to scrape EDGAR (search for "DEF 14A") proxy filings. In the AAPL filing the section heading is "DIRECTORS, CORPORATE GOVERNANCE AND EXECUTIVE OFFICERS", but I don't know if that is consistent between filings.
    https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320193/000119312515017607/d774604ddef14a.htm#toc774604_3

    You can get the number of boards someone serves on (e.g. 65 for George Shultz) at http://www.dnb.com.au/Express/results/director_list.asp
    but it costs $56 to get the actual report.

    It would also be interesting to do some social network analysis on corporate BOD connections. Here's a 2003 paper looking at the Fortune 1000: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1140%2Fepjb%2Fe2004-00127-8#page-1
    Also see http://soq.sagepub.com/content/1/3/301.abstract

    SEC/Edgar only has public companies, thus not Theranos. Several of your links claim to have the boards of private companies, but it is not clear how accurate or comprehensive they are. Most are published on the companies websites, but that is difficult to scrape, because they are all different. And Theranos is typical in not updating its website on board changes.

    Your third link is doing exactly what you suggest after that: it is scraping Edgar, including boards. Again, Edgar is only public companies.

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  138. @Steve Sailer
    I feel like the Board might be able to call in a drone strike on short sellers.

    Don’t you wonder whether this company is some kind of Deep State money laundering device?

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  139. I can’t remember the exact details, but I think one or two of the articles mentioned that some of her crucial early backers or big shots on her board had been her next door neighbors or the next door neighbors of her parents. So the whole thing might just be “stupid gullibility” rather than “devious plot.”

    Also, without mentioning any names, one of her earliest VC financial backers is an individual who has always struck me as being *exceptionally* dim, perhaps even having a two-digit IQ. I think that just like in politics, there’s a huge random factor in VC success, so occasionally dim people do very well early on and get launched into orbit, a little like getting rich from winning the lottery. And once Theranos raised a big chunk of VC money, the herd mentality took over, and lots of other VCs gave her money, just like in the dotcom boom.

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  140. @SFG
    It was like my right-wing friends who wanted to vote for Sarah Palin because she was cute. I finally won with, 'Do you care about your girlfriend's opinion on politics?'

    This “right-winger” wanted to vote for Sarah Palin because she was the only one of the presidential and vice-presidential candidates who had any experience in an executive branch of government and because in both those instances — Mayor of ??? and Governor of Alsaka — her performance was better than just adequate as opposed to non=-existent.

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    Fair enough. I was mostly referring to specific people I knew who were probably a little too eager to prove they weren't sexist.
  141. @Vinay
    "female Steve Jobs"

    You could reasonably have written off pretty much every single thing Steve Jobs did as a stooopid idea which'll never work, until it actually did.

    It's really hard to figure out which tech ideas are brilliant and which are stupid. Heck, most of the employees of a tech startup don't have any real insight into whether they are working on a great product or a fundamentally dumb idea. Even when a company fails, it doesn't necessarily mean its detractors knew what the hell they were talking about.

    Given Theranos huge valuation, I'm highly skeptical of any simple story explaining why it's a fraud. Solyndra's failure didn't validate Republican skepticism about alternate energy -- like a stopped clock, they also mocked Tesla. Likewise, if Theranos fails, it'll say nothing at all about women founder of tech startups. Or even about Elizabeth Holmes!

    By the way, this also highlights why liberals are so reluctant to acknowledge race and gender differences. Whatever differences exist are stastistical in nature and are pretty useless in predicting individual success or failure. But it's just too tempting to judge a female CEO or a black President to their race or gender when analyzing their success or failure.

    >>It’s really hard to figure out which tech ideas are brilliant and which are stupid.

    “It’s such a fine line between stupid and clever.”

    Nigel Tufnel

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  142. @syonredux
    The spectre of eugenics never sleeps:


    <blockquote>Britain’s largest sperm bank has been turning away donors with dyslexia in what it describes as attempts to “minimise the risk of transmitting common genetic diseases or malformations to any children born”.

    In a practice branded “eugenics” by campaigners and a would-be donor, the London Sperm Bank has banned men with dyslexia or other common conditions it described as “neurological diseases” from donating.


    A leaflet to donors lists a series of conditions the clinic screens for, including: attention deficit disorder (ADD), attention deficit hyperactivity disorder [ADHD], autism, Asperger syndrome, dyslexia and the motor disorder dyspraxia.
     

    Steve O’Brien, chair of the Dyslexia Foundation and a board member of the International Dyslexia Association, said: “This is eugenics. It’s trying to say that dyslexics shouldn’t be in society. But we’re moving into a visually dominated world of Instagram and YouTube where given the right tools it is no longer an issue, because people with dyslexia are right-brained often with hyper-visual skills.
     
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/29/largest-uk-sperm-bank-turns-away-dyslexic-donors

    Caplan makes the distinction between hard and soft eugenics, the former being more closely associated with Nazi Germany and the killing of so-called undesirables. Soft eugenics, or what’s often referred to as positive eugenics, is the attempt to make better babies. So, in the sense that sperm banks are promoting and encouraging the idea of having babies built to order, then yes, it can be referred to as a form of positive eugenics.

    “In this case, customers are selecting for traits they want, and avoiding traits they don’t want,” Caplan explained to Gizmodo.

    Bioethicist Nigel Cameron, the president of the Center for Policy on Emerging Technologies, says the practice is absolutely eugenics— and that sperm banks are starting to take it too far. “There is something inherently eugenic about assisted reproduction unless donations are accepted, by clinics and recipients, sight unseen,” he told Gizmodo. “When we take this to the extent they have, banning the color blind, we are wading in deep.”

     

    http://gizmodo.com/are-sperm-banks-in-the-business-of-eugenics-1750320665

    The idiot liberals over at the Grauniad are up in arms about potentially screening for autism in sperm donors..

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/30/screening-sperm-donors-autism-autistic-eugenics

    I love the oh so typical self-centered specialness of the writer:

    “Screening sperm donors for autism? As an autistic person, I know that’s the road to eugenics ”

    No reply to my question in the comments
    “Why does autism give you special insight into eugenics?”

    That the sainted Margaret Sanger was all for this (with a special emphasis of removing blacks from the gene pool) seems not to be worthy of notice.

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  143. @Reg Cæsar

    Just because the feminists are wrong about so much doesn’t mean they’re wrong about *everything*.
     
    Race-realist Michael Levin proposed that feminism is the first system of thought that manages to be wrong every single time. No male philosophy can claim that.

    Neo-cons?

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    Sorry, but I was with Norm and Midge when they crossed with Gore over buggery.
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    In videos, Elizabeth Holmes comes across as very unusual. It makes me wonder if she might have Asperger’s? I can understand that lowering her voice might, in some ways, be good for her professionally, but it’s like she’s gone full retard with it and lowered it too far. And her expression and body language seem contrived and stilted, but don’t those traits sometimes go along with with Asperger’s?

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    In videos, Elizabeth Holmes comes across as very unusual. It makes me wonder if she might have Asperger’s? I can understand that lowering her voice might, in some ways, be good for her professionally, but it’s like she’s gone full retard with it and lowered it too far. And her expression and body language seem contrived and stilted, but don’t those traits sometimes go along with with Asperger’s?
     
    Maybe psychopathy?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3379996/How-spot-psychopath-Expert-reveals-traits-look-charm-eccentricity-manipulation.html

    Psychopaths occasionally tend to exhibit unconvincing emotional responses, with slip-ups including tone of voice or body language.

    Psychopaths display different traits depending on their disorder, but common signs include superficial charm, a grandiose notion of self-worth, the need for stimulation and impulsiveness, pathological lying, the ability to manipulate others and a lack of remorse and empathy.

    Experts claim people usually find psychopaths intriguing, but can’t put their finger on why.
    This is down to incongruous behaviour because psychopaths tend to do a lot of acting to deceive, or mimic normal reactions, sometimes changing their views and reactions quickly.
     
  145. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Or, maybe Elizabeth Holmes is really a Silicon Valley-created robot? : )

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  146. @Anonymous
    Not to mention that finger sticks can be more painful than venous blood draws. I can recall experiences with both, and I would much rather have blood drawn from a vein than a finger stick.

    But there are some people who have an overactive vagus nerve and tend to pass out as soon as the tourniquet goes on the arm. Or who have deeply buried veins and it takes several painful minutes for a vein to plump up enough to be hit by even a really good phlebotomist. Or those like me who have both conditions. I’d love to trade the standard venipuncture for a finger stick. And you can do finger sticks on the side of the finger and they’re not bad.

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    Or who have deeply buried veins and it takes several painful minutes for a vein to plump up enough to be hit by even a really good phlebotomist.
     
    Seriously, wear a warm jacket or coat until you take it off just before the "draw." Cold extremities shrink the veins.

    If you are on a table half naked somewhere waiting for a "procedure", tell whoever has to insert something into your veins that they need to warm your arm up. They often have camping "warm packs" and are eager to do anything not to have you as a "hard stick."
  147. @spandrell
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLTAFbKbC8w

    Elizabeth Holmes, Theranos: Transforming Healthcare by Embracing Failure

    Yeah, baby, that'll do it. Embrace failure.

    Even her voice and cadence of speech are (bad) copies of Steve Jobs. Another case of female projection. She must have had some crush for the man, so she has become him.

    Jesus cracker. Her voice in this video is terrible, like half a retard. At any moment I expected her to say, “Tell me about the rabbits, George.”

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  148. @Maj. Kong
    How much is the value of having these solons on the board of directors? Is it just social proof?

    “How much is the value of having these solons on the board of directors? Is it just social proof?”

    Buying protection.

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  149. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Question: If Ms. Holmes did follow through on her threat to file suit vs. Ms. Gibbons and Ms. Gibbons testified under oath as to what her late husband, Dr. Gibbons informed her re: Theranos, wouldn't that help strengthen her claims that "nothing was working"? This might be considered deathbed testimony, which in a court of law is very, very strong testimony indeed. If the late Dr. confided to other close family members the contents of his research findings this could only serve to help strengthen his claim that the patents and therefore Theranos itself, is a complete failure. So Ms. Holmes could be bluffing, hoping to scare Ms. Gibbons into silence. After all, a lot of things could come out in a public trial, not all of them very good for Theranos' future.

    Right, but if she does that the value of the stock she owns goes into the toilet. The company is not publicly traded yet, so the smart thing for her to do is to shut up until the IPO and then bail

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  150. @candid_observer
    Who would play Holmes, Gwyneth Paltrow?

    No, actually it'll be Shia LaBeouf -- the gender of the main character will be changed to enhance the story.

    Haven Monahan, call your agent. There is a casting call for a blond fall guy.

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  151. @cthulhu
    But there are some people who have an overactive vagus nerve and tend to pass out as soon as the tourniquet goes on the arm. Or who have deeply buried veins and it takes several painful minutes for a vein to plump up enough to be hit by even a really good phlebotomist. Or those like me who have both conditions. I'd love to trade the standard venipuncture for a finger stick. And you can do finger sticks on the side of the finger and they're not bad.

    Or who have deeply buried veins and it takes several painful minutes for a vein to plump up enough to be hit by even a really good phlebotomist.

    Seriously, wear a warm jacket or coat until you take it off just before the “draw.” Cold extremities shrink the veins.

    If you are on a table half naked somewhere waiting for a “procedure”, tell whoever has to insert something into your veins that they need to warm your arm up. They often have camping “warm packs” and are eager to do anything not to have you as a “hard stick.”

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    Seriously, wear a warm jacket or coat until you take it off just before the “draw.” Cold extremities shrink the veins.

     

    Have tried this before, doesn't help. There are only two things that have helped:

    One, a very good phlebotomist suggested that I lay down flat (because it is very difficult for someone laying flat on their back to faint), then put my feet flat on the table and pull my knees up (to increase the blood volume and blood pressure in the upper half of my body);

    Two, the switch to the vacutainer collection tubes and the butterfly-style small-bore needle means the phlebotomist needs a smaller target than in the past.

    Combined, these two changes have moved blood draws from a near-torture experience (knowing that you're going to get woozy, feel nauseous, and probably pass out while experiencing a lot of pain made going to the doctor an experience to viscerally dread) to something that I can do with a few minutes of psyching myself up (those Lamaze childbirth classes come in handy again!), as long as I can stay supine for a few minutes afterwards to make sure I'm not dizzy. But a side-of-finger stick would be even better for me. I'm not holding out hope though.
  152. @Anonymous

    The problems of working with “nano” blood samples have been known for years (basically capillary sourced blood isn’t chemically the same as blood from a vein), but it’s a little counter intuitive to an engineering school drop-out like Betsy. Any competent Laboratory Medicine physician could have told them they were doomed years ago. Also the medical testing field is so regulated there’s no real money to be made.
     
    Not to self: when trying to make a quick buck on VC-backed, smoke and mirrors tech, stay away from a legitimate scientific and rigorously controlled field like medicine. Lest I be proven to be a fraud before I can cash out to work on another start up.

    “Not to self: when trying to make a quick buck on VC-backed, smoke and mirrors tech, stay away from a legitimate scientific and rigorously controlled field like medicine.”
    correct. Stick to Climate Science.

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  153. @SnakeEyes
    The black turtle neck sweater uniform screams "poseur".

    IIRC, Holmes said she decided to wear the same outfit all the time so no one would focus on her clothes (though, if that were true, you’d figure she wouldn’t have gone for the Steve Jobs look).

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  154. @Inquiring Mind

    Or who have deeply buried veins and it takes several painful minutes for a vein to plump up enough to be hit by even a really good phlebotomist.
     
    Seriously, wear a warm jacket or coat until you take it off just before the "draw." Cold extremities shrink the veins.

    If you are on a table half naked somewhere waiting for a "procedure", tell whoever has to insert something into your veins that they need to warm your arm up. They often have camping "warm packs" and are eager to do anything not to have you as a "hard stick."

    Seriously, wear a warm jacket or coat until you take it off just before the “draw.” Cold extremities shrink the veins.

    Have tried this before, doesn’t help. There are only two things that have helped:

    One, a very good phlebotomist suggested that I lay down flat (because it is very difficult for someone laying flat on their back to faint), then put my feet flat on the table and pull my knees up (to increase the blood volume and blood pressure in the upper half of my body);

    Two, the switch to the vacutainer collection tubes and the butterfly-style small-bore needle means the phlebotomist needs a smaller target than in the past.

    Combined, these two changes have moved blood draws from a near-torture experience (knowing that you’re going to get woozy, feel nauseous, and probably pass out while experiencing a lot of pain made going to the doctor an experience to viscerally dread) to something that I can do with a few minutes of psyching myself up (those Lamaze childbirth classes come in handy again!), as long as I can stay supine for a few minutes afterwards to make sure I’m not dizzy. But a side-of-finger stick would be even better for me. I’m not holding out hope though.

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    There would still be the problem (if one of the comments here is correct) that blood drawn from capillaries isn't the same as blood drawn from large veins. For some purposes that, I presume, would make the finger stick collection less useful or even useless.
  155. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anonymous
    In videos, Elizabeth Holmes comes across as very unusual. It makes me wonder if she might have Asperger's? I can understand that lowering her voice might, in some ways, be good for her professionally, but it's like she's gone full retard with it and lowered it too far. And her expression and body language seem contrived and stilted, but don't those traits sometimes go along with with Asperger's?

    In videos, Elizabeth Holmes comes across as very unusual. It makes me wonder if she might have Asperger’s? I can understand that lowering her voice might, in some ways, be good for her professionally, but it’s like she’s gone full retard with it and lowered it too far. And her expression and body language seem contrived and stilted, but don’t those traits sometimes go along with with Asperger’s?

    Maybe psychopathy?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3379996/How-spot-psychopath-Expert-reveals-traits-look-charm-eccentricity-manipulation.html

    Psychopaths occasionally tend to exhibit unconvincing emotional responses, with slip-ups including tone of voice or body language.

    Psychopaths display different traits depending on their disorder, but common signs include superficial charm, a grandiose notion of self-worth, the need for stimulation and impulsiveness, pathological lying, the ability to manipulate others and a lack of remorse and empathy.

    Experts claim people usually find psychopaths intriguing, but can’t put their finger on why.
    This is down to incongruous behaviour because psychopaths tend to do a lot of acting to deceive, or mimic normal reactions, sometimes changing their views and reactions quickly.

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    • Replies: @SFG
    Could be. Asperger's seems unlikely for someone who bilked that many people.

    She might also be imitating the geeks she spent a lot of time with.
  156. @Reg Cæsar

    Speaking of Jennifer Lawrence, how come she wasn’t cast in the new Star Wars film?
     
    Since she's from Louisville, she may be holding out for the next installment of "Mall Cop".

    Wonderful!

    I always enjoy your comments but you really outdid yourself with this one.

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  157. @spandrell
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLTAFbKbC8w

    Elizabeth Holmes, Theranos: Transforming Healthcare by Embracing Failure

    Yeah, baby, that'll do it. Embrace failure.

    Even her voice and cadence of speech are (bad) copies of Steve Jobs. Another case of female projection. She must have had some crush for the man, so she has become him.

    WTF–?

    Forget Theranos. Judging by her voice, what she needs is Theraflu.

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  158. @Vinay
    "female Steve Jobs"

    You could reasonably have written off pretty much every single thing Steve Jobs did as a stooopid idea which'll never work, until it actually did.

    It's really hard to figure out which tech ideas are brilliant and which are stupid. Heck, most of the employees of a tech startup don't have any real insight into whether they are working on a great product or a fundamentally dumb idea. Even when a company fails, it doesn't necessarily mean its detractors knew what the hell they were talking about.

    Given Theranos huge valuation, I'm highly skeptical of any simple story explaining why it's a fraud. Solyndra's failure didn't validate Republican skepticism about alternate energy -- like a stopped clock, they also mocked Tesla. Likewise, if Theranos fails, it'll say nothing at all about women founder of tech startups. Or even about Elizabeth Holmes!

    By the way, this also highlights why liberals are so reluctant to acknowledge race and gender differences. Whatever differences exist are stastistical in nature and are pretty useless in predicting individual success or failure. But it's just too tempting to judge a female CEO or a black President to their race or gender when analyzing their success or failure.

    Female CEOs don’t have a very good record, especially when they suffer from innumeracy and a complete lack of scientific knowledge in the area they are supposed to be making decisions about. I only know a couple of venture capitalists, but they are drastically smarter than this woman, and would quickly realize that it’s a scam……..But then, liberals generally love scams, especially when the taxpayers are footing the bill…

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    Dame Sally Davis head of the UK's NHS has decreed that male drinking limits are the same as female one as she cannot tell the difference.
  159. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    I wondered once if this might be a government ploy to get genetic material on billions of people worldwide over the next twenty years. And then track their every move by analyzing sewage systems, like they did with bin laden. This chick might just be an actor playing a role. But the creators goofed up and made her too similar to Steve jobs.

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    "I wondered once if this might be a government ploy to get genetic material on billions of people worldwide over the next twenty years. And then track their every move by analyzing sewage systems, like they did with bin laden."

    Interesting idea. I wouldn't put it past the national-security/surveillance deep-state to do such a thing. Was In-Q-Tel an investor in Theranos, I wonder?
  160. @res

    Theranos bumped up against all blood tests getting less expensive. We have walk in blood test discounters in my area and you can get the tests done 100% privately without an MD’s authorization.
     
    Can you point me to any documentation? I'm curious about their services offered, pricing, and whether or not there really is an MD signing off on the tests. For comparison, http://www.lifeextension.com/Vitamins-Supplements/Blood-Tests/Blood-Tests offers a fairly comprehensive CBC and metabolic panel for $47 (on sale for $35 now) as well as a great variety of other tests. They have an in-house MD who signs off on the order and you just go to the local LabCorp draw site. Test results are sent via email and/or postal mail in a few days They do not offer tests in NY or MD IIRC.
    Also, how much of the decrease in lab costs has been a competitive response to Theranos and other newcomers exposing the excessive pricing of Quest and LabCorp?

    Regarding Theranos pricing, consider a Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (less comprehensive than the LEF test above, CPT:80053) for $7.19 at Theranos. They quote Other labs: $17.00 - $27.40 and Consumer Reports lists a National fair price of$30 and a National range of $15 - 135.
    http://consumerhealthchoices.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Comprehensive-Metabolic-Panel-HCBB.pdf

    The main advantage of Theranos was a pin prick and just taking a drop or two?

     

    Although they touted that heavily, I always thought the big advantage was the pricing: https://www.theranos.com/test-menu

    Although they touted that heavily, I always thought the big advantage was the pricing: https://www.theranos.com/test-menu

    Then Theranos should be doing great.

    My local anylabtestnow will do a wide variety of tests with or without yr doctors consent. Perhaps this differs in other states. Just heard them advertising (on radio) a special of $3000 worth of tests for $1000. Doc or no Doc is not an issue.

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    Thanks for the response.

    Then Theranos should be doing great.
     
    Well, medicine in the US has only a superficial resemblance to a functional market (prime issues being pricing is opaque to the patient and usually the payer differs from the beneficiary of the service) so I would not be quite so glib.

    Doc or no Doc is not an issue.
     
    This is a fairly recent development AFAICT (how long have you been using your lab this way?).
    For example, see this 2015 measure: http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/07/02/new-arizona-law-and-fda-approval-gives-theranos-something-to-celebrate/29634373/
    and this 2014 measure (this one is about access to results, not permission): https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/new-rule-allows-patients-to-get-test-results-directly-from-labs-without-doctors-clearance/2014/02/03/49c624ec-8d12-11e3-98ab-fe5228217bd1_story.html

    I think Theranos has been a big part of shaking up the lab test market and regulatory environment and I am grateful for that. For me the most dramatic thing about Theranos is how rapidly the hype machine shifted from overwhelmingly positive to negative. I wonder why...

  161. @Anonymous

    In videos, Elizabeth Holmes comes across as very unusual. It makes me wonder if she might have Asperger’s? I can understand that lowering her voice might, in some ways, be good for her professionally, but it’s like she’s gone full retard with it and lowered it too far. And her expression and body language seem contrived and stilted, but don’t those traits sometimes go along with with Asperger’s?
     
    Maybe psychopathy?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3379996/How-spot-psychopath-Expert-reveals-traits-look-charm-eccentricity-manipulation.html

    Psychopaths occasionally tend to exhibit unconvincing emotional responses, with slip-ups including tone of voice or body language.

    Psychopaths display different traits depending on their disorder, but common signs include superficial charm, a grandiose notion of self-worth, the need for stimulation and impulsiveness, pathological lying, the ability to manipulate others and a lack of remorse and empathy.

    Experts claim people usually find psychopaths intriguing, but can’t put their finger on why.
    This is down to incongruous behaviour because psychopaths tend to do a lot of acting to deceive, or mimic normal reactions, sometimes changing their views and reactions quickly.
     

    Could be. Asperger’s seems unlikely for someone who bilked that many people.

    She might also be imitating the geeks she spent a lot of time with.

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  162. @Jus' Sayin'...
    This "right-winger" wanted to vote for Sarah Palin because she was the only one of the presidential and vice-presidential candidates who had any experience in an executive branch of government and because in both those instances -- Mayor of ??? and Governor of Alsaka -- her performance was better than just adequate as opposed to non=-existent.

    Fair enough. I was mostly referring to specific people I knew who were probably a little too eager to prove they weren’t sexist.

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  163. Dirk Dagger [AKA "Chico Caldera"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Vinay
    "There is ONLY ONE REAL reason this company and individual is talked about – and that is because she's a woman"

    You think a private company gets a 9 billion dollar valuation simply because it's led by a woman? Then Steve has done a terrible job of educating his readers about how diversity boosting works.

    Yes, a top female CEO would get a lot of attention even if there are lots of companies run by male CEOs which are bigger or doing better. There's nothing particularly surprising or nefarious about this. That's completely different from imagining that a company would be overvalued by an order of magnitude because of people's warm fuzzies towards the woman CEO.

    If being "realistic" about gender causes people to make such poor judgement calls, then they're better off being PC. Frankly, Western political correctness may be annoying at times but it handily outperforms countries and states which are supposedly more realistic about race and gender.

    You think a private company gets a 9 billion dollar valuation …

    9 bigguns? Sez who amigo?

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  164. Dirk Dagger [AKA "Chico Caldera"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jim Don Bob
    My father told me years ago, "If it seems to good to be true, it usually is." Good advice.

    My father told me years ago, “If it seems to good to be true, it usually is.” Good advice.

    Are you sure he was your father? — Old Chihuahuan Proverb

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    Are you sure he was your father? — Old Chihuahuan Proverb
     
    I prefer proverbs from pugs, Pekinese and Shih-tzus. More common sense in the Confucian tradition.
  165. @SFG
    You could argue sociopathy is a positive trait these days. At least for you.

    You could argue sociopathy is a positive trait these days. At least for you.

    Sperm banks are institutionalized sociopathy. That they can’t be sued by their spawn is criminal.

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  166. @Dirk Dagger

    My father told me years ago, “If it seems to good to be true, it usually is.” Good advice.
     
    Are you sure he was your father? -- Old Chihuahuan Proverb

    Are you sure he was your father? — Old Chihuahuan Proverb

    I prefer proverbs from pugs, Pekinese and Shih-tzus. More common sense in the Confucian tradition.

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    • Replies: @Dirk Dagger
    Never take your advice from some one - or body - who might be on the menu.
  167. Dirk Dagger [AKA "Chico Caldera"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Reg Cæsar

    Are you sure he was your father? — Old Chihuahuan Proverb
     
    I prefer proverbs from pugs, Pekinese and Shih-tzus. More common sense in the Confucian tradition.

    Never take your advice from some one – or body – who might be on the menu.

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  168. @Reg Cæsar

    Just because the feminists are wrong about so much doesn’t mean they’re wrong about *everything*.
     
    Race-realist Michael Levin proposed that feminism is the first system of thought that manages to be wrong every single time. No male philosophy can claim that.

    Try Marxism.

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    Try Marxism.
     
    Thanks, but I'd rather not.

    Marx was right about one thing: history repeats itself, first time as tragedy, second as farce. That line ranks with some of Groucho's.

    But I prefer Louis Marx, who gave us Marvel the Mustang and Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots, and who hated Communism so much he called his son-in-law Daniel Ellsberg a traitor.
  169. @Farenheit
    ...to further throw proof that this company is doomed, it was visited by Vice President Biden in July. He effused on how great the technology would be...blah blah blah....in Silicon Valley, a visit by Biden or Obama is the closest thing to the kiss of death!!

    “…to further throw proof that this company is doomed, it was visited by Vice President Biden in July. He effused on how great the technology would be…blah blah blah….in Silicon Valley, a visit by Biden or Obama is the closest thing to the kiss of death!!”

    Perhaps Holmes and/or other Theranos execs have donated a lot of money to the Obamba/Biden campaign and the Democratic party. Al Gore also made visits to (soon-to-be) failed companies in exchange for donations. Of course Republicans do the same, but they tend to visit defence contractors, which almost never fail, sucklings as they are of the ‘National Security’ racket.

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  170. @Anonymous
    I wondered once if this might be a government ploy to get genetic material on billions of people worldwide over the next twenty years. And then track their every move by analyzing sewage systems, like they did with bin laden. This chick might just be an actor playing a role. But the creators goofed up and made her too similar to Steve jobs.

    “I wondered once if this might be a government ploy to get genetic material on billions of people worldwide over the next twenty years. And then track their every move by analyzing sewage systems, like they did with bin laden.”

    Interesting idea. I wouldn’t put it past the national-security/surveillance deep-state to do such a thing. Was In-Q-Tel an investor in Theranos, I wonder?

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  171. @Hibernian
    Try Marxism.

    Try Marxism.

    Thanks, but I’d rather not.

    Marx was right about one thing: history repeats itself, first time as tragedy, second as farce. That line ranks with some of Groucho’s.

    But I prefer Louis Marx, who gave us Marvel the Mustang and Rock ‘Em Sock ‘Em Robots, and who hated Communism so much he called his son-in-law Daniel Ellsberg a traitor.

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  172. Getting a female Steve Jobs probably isn’t that hard, you just have to realize that Jobs wasn’t and Edison or Tesla, he was a Halston or Ralph Lauren. There have been several major female powers in the fashion world, the hard part is breaking the general belief that tech is valuable for itself rather than as Jobs demonstrated just another conspicuous consumption vehicle. Getting top flight nerds to work on toys for no recognition probably isn’t as difficult as one could wish. It would also be very much in the interest of the rich and powerful to turn tech into a fashion show rather than a source of disruption after all fashion always favors the status quo and disruption always harms it.

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  173. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Uh, you do know that Episode IV and V made Harrison Ford a superstar. So again, why not cast Lawrence, as one of the main baddies. Has the Hunger Games ruined her career?

    Uh, you do know that Episode IV and V made Harrison Ford a superstar. So again, why not cast Lawrence, as one of the main baddies. Has the Hunger Games ruined her career?

    Her height, bone density, and weight. That chick is huge. When you have a featured player that big and tall, you have to cast the people around her at a corresponding height, unless you’re casting for comedy. His ex-wife aside, there generally ain’t no tall folks in a Tom Cruise film. Teensy actor Ben Stiller, on the other hand, will cast women taller than him.

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  174. @hhsiii
    All I know is she can distort the reality of my field any time.

    Or is it “I want to distort the reality in her field”?

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  175. @let it burn
    foundrix
    adventuress
    provocateuse

    the foundrix is an adventuress provocateuse.

    foundrix

    Are you suggesting Jimi Hender was a tranny?

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    Well, Jimi was notably bi-polar.
    , @Father O'Hara
    One guy says Jimi was murdered.
  176. @Daniel H
    >>As a result, Theranos is using traditional lab machines for most of its tests....

    Brings to mind those hipsters in Brooklyn who were caught marketing imported, melted down French chocolate as their own home-brewed bean-to-bar artisanal chocolate at $10 per bar.

    “Brings to mind those hipsters in Brooklyn who were caught marketing imported, melted down French chocolate as their own home-brewed bean-to-bar artisanal chocolate at $10 per bar.”

    That sort of “scam” has endless varieties. Many years ago, when I moved to Florida, I thought I would improve my language skills in a foreign language. I saw an ad in a magazine (NY Times Sunday magazine, as I recall) that offered tapes and books to go along with the tapes, so I ordered the set. “Audio Forum” was the company’s name. When the materials arrived, the tapes all had the labels of the private company on them, but the books were from the U.S. Government Printing Office and labeled Foreign Service Institute of the U.S. Department of State. It was a good product, using native speakers on the audio portion, and I never thought much of it. After a while, I decided to order the second part of the course. I then discovered you could order the exact same course from the U.S. Government Printing Office for about a third of the cost. These were the same tapes and materials used by the State Department to train their personnel who were going overseas for assignment. Every language imaginable was covered. Since the materials were produced by the Government and were not copyrighted, what the clever private company was doing was buying the tapes and books from the GPO, relabeling the tapes with a label of their own, keeping the books in their original form, and selling the same product to the public at three times the price.(Or rerecording the tapes and just ordering the books from the GPO, which might have reduced their cost even more.) When I discovered that I could order the second part of the course from the GPO at 1/3 the price, I did so, of course. A few years ago I discovered that you can get the same stuff now for free just by downloading the recordings to your computer along with the accompanying written materials. It’s a great resource for anyone who is trying to master a foreign language. I only wish that stuff was available when I was studying French in high school many years ago, but that was long before the technology like the Sony Walkman and the later Apple iPod came along to make its use convenient. I can’t fault the private company. It was providing a useful service by advertising the product to the public and making it available to people who otherwise wouldn’t know about the cheaper Government resource. I’m sure that kind of “thievery” goes on all the time in one form or other. It is the essence of trade: bringing products (like spices from the East) which are cheap in the place of origin to places that lack them (like Europe) but find them highly desirable but selling them at a much higher price. The prices start off high and enrich the people conducting the trade, but eventually market forces bring the prices down to the point where anyone can afford them.

    Chocolate is slightly different in that it involves a food product and that involves government regulation about “country of origin” and the like. But I understand that much of the olive oil that one buys from Greece or Italy is made from cheaper olives that are grown elsewhere in the Mediterranean area, such as North Africa or Spain. Greek or Italian olive oil commands a higher price because of the quality associated with those countries, but you have to be careful when you read the labels to make sure the oil is designated as made from olives grown in those countries and not from olives grown elsewhere and merely processed in Greece or Italy.

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    Thank you for info about the Foreign Service Institute of the U.S. Department of State
    , @ringo starr
    Great.. What's the link or website to those free audio files and materials for language learning?

    Thanks
    , @SFG
    True (and I may use those tapes/files--thanks!), but we already know about chocolate. ;)

    Of course, I just think it's funny the hipsters got ripped off. You see the video where they feed them McDonald's and they go on about how fresh it tastes?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qa6QXBxxWw
  177. @Dave Pinsen
    Women (not necessarily Holmes) can be very good at getting men to do what they want.

    If you look carefully at Holmes’ business model and how she, throughout her life, seduces male professors and politicians and investors and nerds, she is a classic example of the “whiny, needy, and foxy” female. In short, she finds father figures, portrays herself as a vulnerable and deserving daughter figure, and begs them for protection and help. The vulnerable men comply … it’s in their DNA.

    I’m reminded of a survey going back years to the point that most young people on their way to Europe for a post-high school trip were young girls on trips paid for by their fathers. However, to toughen them, they kept their sons at home, making sure that they understood they had to make it through life on their own.

    I wonder how Holmes would fair in the society of women … somewhere she perhaps tries to avoid and where she doesn’t ply her wares. Would they quickly find her out? I think so.

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  178. @Anonymous
    Jobs could at least intimidate the nerds under him to come up with something when necessary. Holmes doesn't have that luxury as a woman. A woman boss just can't inspire or intimidate male underlings to pull through.

    How do you explain the success of Queen Elizabeth 1 of England, Margaret Thatcher, and perhaps Indira Gandhi, Golda Meir, Catherine the Great….?

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    • Replies: @Zachary Latif
    The words of Queen Elizabeth I before the Battle of the Armada.

    "And therefore I am come amongst you at this time, not as for my recreation or sport, but being resolved, in the midst and heat of the battle, to live or die amongst you all; to lay down, for my God, and for my kingdom, and for my people, my honor and my blood, even the dust. I know I have but the body of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart of a king, and of a king of England, too; and think foul scorn that Parma or Spain, or any prince of Europe, should dare to invade the borders of my realms: to which, rather than any dishonor should grow by me, I myself will take up arms; I myself will be your general, judge, and rewarder of every one of your virtues in the field. I know already, by your forwardness, that you have deserved rewards and crowns; and we do assure you, on the word of a prince, they shall be duly paid you. In the mean my lieutenant general shall be in my stead, than whom never prince commanded a more noble and worthy subject; not doubting by your obedience to my general, by your concord in the camp, and by your valor in the field, we shall shortly have a famous victory over the enemies of my God, of my kingdom, and of my people.

    Queen Elizabeth I - 1588"


    http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/elizabeth.htm
    , @dr kill
    Oh my, the first classical straw man argument of 2016. Well done, Wiz.
    , @Father O'Hara
    Thatcher was hated by many of her peeps for her nasty dismissive 'tude. BTW I ACTUALLY READ this story in one of those money mags. I don't recall if I rolled my eyes...I think so.
    , @Father O'Hara
    When will that lovely Yahoo lady be dumped?
  179. @advancedatheist

    in determining which nerds are geniuses and which ones aren’t a woman would necessarily have to rely on the judgement of other men, usually other nerds. She can’t make that judgement herself, not correctly anyway.
     
    Women show nerd-blindness in general, compared with their ability to pick out the jock, jerks, thugs, cads, bad boys, rakes, narcissistic sociopaths, etc., they prefer for their early sexual experiences.

    Are you proffering the explanation for why you did or why you did not get early sexual experience:) ?

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    • Replies: @advancedatheist
    Sexologists have fallen way behind the Manosphere in understanding the incel phenomenon. I've just finished Justin J. Lehmiller's textbook, The Psychology of Human Sexuality, published in 2014. He only has this to say about what he thinks "involuntary celibacy" means (p. 232):

    Involuntary celibacy is a reality for some individuals when they lack access to a desired partner due to separation (e.g., military deployment), institutional restrictions (e.g., nursing homes may have rules that restrict sexual activity among patients), and other constraints (e.g., persons with physical and psychological disabilities may have caregivers who discourage or do not allow sex).

     

    In other words, Lehmiller and other sexologists whose textbooks I've read so far have refused to acknowledge the existence of healthy, able-bodied, free-range men who can't attract women, regardless of what they do.
  180. @anonymous
    Sounds like she may end up being charged with fraud unless big clout can protect her. There's a bewildering array of people on these boards with little in common besides being on the make. Kissinger? Some of those named are fairly well up in years which brings up the peculiar psychology of many of them, that is, no matter how old and close to eternity they are they're still out there trying to turn yet another dollar somehow. When is enough ever enough? It's hard to understand this mindset.

    Are they being paid? If so in what form (options, free shares, cash, expenses including travel)?

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  181. @Wizard of Oz
    How do you explain the success of Queen Elizabeth 1 of England, Margaret Thatcher, and perhaps Indira Gandhi, Golda Meir, Catherine the Great....?

    The words of Queen Elizabeth I before the Battle of the Armada.

    “And therefore I am come amongst you at this time, not as for my recreation or sport, but being resolved, in the midst and heat of the battle, to live or die amongst you all; to lay down, for my God, and for my kingdom, and for my people, my honor and my blood, even the dust. I know I have but the body of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart of a king, and of a king of England, too; and think foul scorn that Parma or Spain, or any prince of Europe, should dare to invade the borders of my realms: to which, rather than any dishonor should grow by me, I myself will take up arms; I myself will be your general, judge, and rewarder of every one of your virtues in the field. I know already, by your forwardness, that you have deserved rewards and crowns; and we do assure you, on the word of a prince, they shall be duly paid you. In the mean my lieutenant general shall be in my stead, than whom never prince commanded a more noble and worthy subject; not doubting by your obedience to my general, by your concord in the camp, and by your valor in the field, we shall shortly have a famous victory over the enemies of my God, of my kingdom, and of my people.

    Queen Elizabeth I – 1588″

    http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/elizabeth.htm

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    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    "I know already, by your forwardness, that you have deserved rewards and crowns; and we do assure you, on the word of a prince, they shall be duly paid you. "

    Great speech. And having beaten the Armada, the seaman were left to starve.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Howard,_1st_Earl_of_Nottingham#Spanish_Armada:_1588

    "In late August Howard wrote to Elizabeth, the Privy Council and Walsingham of the terrible sickness that had spread throughout the fleet. On 29 August he informed Walsingham: "There is not any of them that hath one day's victuals, and many [of them] have sent many sick men ashore here, and not one penny to relieve them...It were too pitiful to have men starve after such a service. I know her Majesty would not, for any good. Therefore I had rather open the Queen's Majesty's purse something to relieve them, than they should be in that extremity; for we are to look to have more of these services; and if men should not be cared for better than to let them starve and die miserably, we should very hardly get man to serve. Sir, I desire [but] that there may be but double allowance of but as much as I [give] out of my own purse, and yet I am not the ablest man in [the realm]; but, before God, I had rather have never penny in the world than they should lack""

     

  182. @Zachary Latif
    The words of Queen Elizabeth I before the Battle of the Armada.

    "And therefore I am come amongst you at this time, not as for my recreation or sport, but being resolved, in the midst and heat of the battle, to live or die amongst you all; to lay down, for my God, and for my kingdom, and for my people, my honor and my blood, even the dust. I know I have but the body of a weak and feeble woman; but I have the heart of a king, and of a king of England, too; and think foul scorn that Parma or Spain, or any prince of Europe, should dare to invade the borders of my realms: to which, rather than any dishonor should grow by me, I myself will take up arms; I myself will be your general, judge, and rewarder of every one of your virtues in the field. I know already, by your forwardness, that you have deserved rewards and crowns; and we do assure you, on the word of a prince, they shall be duly paid you. In the mean my lieutenant general shall be in my stead, than whom never prince commanded a more noble and worthy subject; not doubting by your obedience to my general, by your concord in the camp, and by your valor in the field, we shall shortly have a famous victory over the enemies of my God, of my kingdom, and of my people.

    Queen Elizabeth I - 1588"


    http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/elizabeth.htm

    “I know already, by your forwardness, that you have deserved rewards and crowns; and we do assure you, on the word of a prince, they shall be duly paid you. “

    Great speech. And having beaten the Armada, the seaman were left to starve.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Howard,_1st_Earl_of_Nottingham#Spanish_Armada:_1588

    “In late August Howard wrote to Elizabeth, the Privy Council and Walsingham of the terrible sickness that had spread throughout the fleet. On 29 August he informed Walsingham: “There is not any of them that hath one day’s victuals, and many [of them] have sent many sick men ashore here, and not one penny to relieve them…It were too pitiful to have men starve after such a service. I know her Majesty would not, for any good. Therefore I had rather open the Queen’s Majesty’s purse something to relieve them, than they should be in that extremity; for we are to look to have more of these services; and if men should not be cared for better than to let them starve and die miserably, we should very hardly get man to serve. Sir, I desire [but] that there may be but double allowance of but as much as I [give] out of my own purse, and yet I am not the ablest man in [the realm]; but, before God, I had rather have never penny in the world than they should lack“”

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  183. @Wizard of Oz
    How do you explain the success of Queen Elizabeth 1 of England, Margaret Thatcher, and perhaps Indira Gandhi, Golda Meir, Catherine the Great....?

    Oh my, the first classical straw man argument of 2016. Well done, Wiz.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Did you read what I was replying to?

    It said "A female boss just can't inspire or intimidate male underlings to pull through". Was that not possible to interpret as saying that the quality or attribute of femaleness is incompatible with being able to obtain effective energetic obedience or inspired initiative from a female's subordinates?

    So... explain how my suggestion that there were counter examples to such generalisations was a straw man argument. That is an argument which refutes one that hasn't actually been put and is much weaker than the real one.

    I note that the argument was not that on average women have more trouble intimidating or inspiring men to achieve corporate goals than men in similar positions do (and Ms Holmes does not appear to be an exception). If it had been I might have asked for research that supported that impression and I might have suggested that inspiration and intimidation didn't describe the full range of leadership skills and methods especially in the case of women vis a vis men.

  184. @pyrrhus
    Female CEOs don't have a very good record, especially when they suffer from innumeracy and a complete lack of scientific knowledge in the area they are supposed to be making decisions about. I only know a couple of venture capitalists, but they are drastically smarter than this woman, and would quickly realize that it's a scam........But then, liberals generally love scams, especially when the taxpayers are footing the bill...

    Dame Sally Davis head of the UK’s NHS has decreed that male drinking limits are the same as female one as she cannot tell the difference.

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  185. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Dirk Dagger
    The problems of working with "nano" blood samples have been known for years (basically capillary sourced blood isn't chemically the same as blood from a vein), but it's a little counter intuitive to an engineering school drop-out like Betsy. Any competent Laboratory Medicine physician could have told them they were doomed years ago. Also the medical testing field is so regulated there's no real money to be made.

    An excellent point. One can directly observe this type of variation with the well established blood glucose test strips.

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  186. @tbraton
    "Brings to mind those hipsters in Brooklyn who were caught marketing imported, melted down French chocolate as their own home-brewed bean-to-bar artisanal chocolate at $10 per bar."

    That sort of "scam" has endless varieties. Many years ago, when I moved to Florida, I thought I would improve my language skills in a foreign language. I saw an ad in a magazine (NY Times Sunday magazine, as I recall) that offered tapes and books to go along with the tapes, so I ordered the set. "Audio Forum" was the company's name. When the materials arrived, the tapes all had the labels of the private company on them, but the books were from the U.S. Government Printing Office and labeled Foreign Service Institute of the U.S. Department of State. It was a good product, using native speakers on the audio portion, and I never thought much of it. After a while, I decided to order the second part of the course. I then discovered you could order the exact same course from the U.S. Government Printing Office for about a third of the cost. These were the same tapes and materials used by the State Department to train their personnel who were going overseas for assignment. Every language imaginable was covered. Since the materials were produced by the Government and were not copyrighted, what the clever private company was doing was buying the tapes and books from the GPO, relabeling the tapes with a label of their own, keeping the books in their original form, and selling the same product to the public at three times the price.(Or rerecording the tapes and just ordering the books from the GPO, which might have reduced their cost even more.) When I discovered that I could order the second part of the course from the GPO at 1/3 the price, I did so, of course. A few years ago I discovered that you can get the same stuff now for free just by downloading the recordings to your computer along with the accompanying written materials. It's a great resource for anyone who is trying to master a foreign language. I only wish that stuff was available when I was studying French in high school many years ago, but that was long before the technology like the Sony Walkman and the later Apple iPod came along to make its use convenient. I can't fault the private company. It was providing a useful service by advertising the product to the public and making it available to people who otherwise wouldn't know about the cheaper Government resource. I'm sure that kind of "thievery" goes on all the time in one form or other. It is the essence of trade: bringing products (like spices from the East) which are cheap in the place of origin to places that lack them (like Europe) but find them highly desirable but selling them at a much higher price. The prices start off high and enrich the people conducting the trade, but eventually market forces bring the prices down to the point where anyone can afford them.

    Chocolate is slightly different in that it involves a food product and that involves government regulation about "country of origin" and the like. But I understand that much of the olive oil that one buys from Greece or Italy is made from cheaper olives that are grown elsewhere in the Mediterranean area, such as North Africa or Spain. Greek or Italian olive oil commands a higher price because of the quality associated with those countries, but you have to be careful when you read the labels to make sure the oil is designated as made from olives grown in those countries and not from olives grown elsewhere and merely processed in Greece or Italy.

    Thank you for info about the Foreign Service Institute of the U.S. Department of State

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  187. This is an exaggerated example of a situation very familiar to those of us who work to develop new technology. While we are working on a new device and making some progress with meager funding – able, for example, to demonstrate the concept without too many false results; along comes a new and unbelievably glamorous competitor (not always with a 19 year old beauty) who claim, for example, that they are able to do everything that we do – and much more – on a single tiny silicon chip. No, it’s not quite working yet, but clearly all it needs is some investment money and it will change the whole world.

    The media get hold of it and millions of dollars of venture money pour in. Sumptuous office space is rented in Silicon Valley with deep carpets and rosewood furniture; fancy cars for the vice presidents (there are five of them now); the very latest computer is on every desk. Celebrities fight for a place on the board.

    Meanwhile, the large technical staff squabble with the large marketing staff over the right way to proceed: the walls of the crowded board-room are papered with felt-tipped ‘ideas’ and ‘concepts’ and the more eloquent members are laying out their ‘vision’ of how the company will grow to a billion dollars next year. Over in the corner, a couple of the less articulate but technically bright are shaking their heads and saying, nay, mumbling, that maybe it might be a good idea to prove the concept before going any further because, it now appears, this has actually never been done.

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  188. @advancedatheist
    Return of Kings posted about Holmes and her pseudo-startup the other day:

    Is Theranos A Girl-Powered Scam?

    http://www.returnofkings.com/76246/is-theranos-a-girl-powered-scam

    Yeah, well, ROK posted the article to make an entirely different point, serving an entirely different agenda. That’s what ROK is, after all. Their interest is crybaby, look at that woman billionaire, it’s unfair and perhaps that’s the truth, or a grain therein, but Holmes is a puppethead blond, a moron and everyone knew it. And she didn’t need Chinese to sell tech in Singapore, why the hell is that relevant? She was a front, a moron dropout. She couldn’t study STEM at Stanford, she’s an idiot, that’s why she dropped out. And there ROK stopped, because their interest was simply to shit on the woman. They actually ignored the larger point.

    Holmes could have been a guy, an uglier woman, or anyone. The larger point is the scam they are/were attempting to perpetrate with this Theranos. Sailer’s points here are to illustrate the violations of science and the propriety of the investors and board members pushing out a shitty product on the sheer strength of famous, insider personalities. Holmes was simply the face they advanced.

    Mr. Sailer didn’t quite get to it, but what those bastards REALLY wanted was to put Theranos up for an IPO, fleece the investor public, raise a few tens of billions on say, NASDAQ and as soon as that was done pay themselves and burn cash while reverting Theranos to old tech or figure something else out for it, likely loot it and close it like Solyndra. The “innovative” blood testing was a dangerous sham, the FDA knew it and NASDAQ or whomever would have figured it out. They’re cut off at the pass and it’s about time one of these finally was. Nice try though. The notion that a crooked, empty storefront is “worth” 9 billion is a gag-bag of a joke. The principals at Theranos have turtled and now that the truth is out, everyone with dough in the kitty is looking madly for a way out.

    ROK never contemplated any of that stuff.

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    • Replies: @SFG
    ROK does have a point in that she used her sex to get more marks.

    Thanks for explaining the scam, though. I knew something was fishy but couldn't figure out what they were trying to do.
    , @AndrewR
    Well ROK'S whole schtick is skewering feminism and its effects, albeit often in a highly juvenile and clickbaity fashion.

    They never claim that their perspective on stories is the whole truth.

    There are multiple ways to look at this story, all equally valid.

    Your perspective seems quite plausible but it's not fair to criticize ROK for focusing on the situation's relevance to feminism. I doubt you'd criticize your cardiologist for not wanting to discuss your astigmatism in detail.
  189. @Wizard of Oz
    Are you proffering the explanation for why you did or why you did not get early sexual experience:) ?

    Sexologists have fallen way behind the Manosphere in understanding the incel phenomenon. I’ve just finished Justin J. Lehmiller’s textbook, The Psychology of Human Sexuality, published in 2014. He only has this to say about what he thinks “involuntary celibacy” means (p. 232):

    Involuntary celibacy is a reality for some individuals when they lack access to a desired partner due to separation (e.g., military deployment), institutional restrictions (e.g., nursing homes may have rules that restrict sexual activity among patients), and other constraints (e.g., persons with physical and psychological disabilities may have caregivers who discourage or do not allow sex).

    In other words, Lehmiller and other sexologists whose textbooks I’ve read so far have refused to acknowledge the existence of healthy, able-bodied, free-range men who can’t attract women, regardless of what they do.

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  190. @Curle
    “haters gotta hate”

    Yes, another in a long line of socially approved banalities. I wonder if anyone's ever assembled an authoritative list of such things. It would have to include:

    "Don't trust anyone over 30."

    "Spiritual not religious."

    "America is an immigrant nation."

    "American is a propositional nation."

    "It takes a village."

    etc.

    In fact, it does take a village.

    That may be the only accurate statement that she has made.

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  191. @Thomas Fuller

    foundrix
     
    Are you suggesting Jimi Hender was a tranny?

    Well, Jimi was notably bi-polar.

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    • Replies: @Sean
    His son with a Swedish woman became a transwoman. Dad put his money into a discretionary trust tax dodge (where you give control of your your money away) and the trustees predictably didn't give the mother or son/transwoman a penny beyond basic maintenance .
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Well, Jimi was notably bi-polar.
     
    And he could play the guitar all four ways-- a righty guitar right- or left-handed, and a lefty the same.
  192. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anon7
    Investors and the media have fallen in love with the idea of the pretty (or at least young) female founder. Another example is Shirleen Yates, who wondered outloud if it might be possible to create a small sensor for people with gluten sensitivity to carry around.

    She happened to mention it to a guy who is a real engineer; he did all the work, along with a half-dozen other male engineers. Now they have a product, the Nima food sensor.

    But Ms. Yates is credited as a "founder". And of course she's the one prominently shown in their company video. Her degree? International relations. Oh, and her parents are Iranian immigrants.

    $4 for a disposable capsule and a $200 device to detect gluten antigen? This can be done with paper strips for about $1. See: pregnancy test strips.

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  193. @Ivy
    Well, Jimi was notably bi-polar.

    His son with a Swedish woman became a transwoman. Dad put his money into a discretionary trust tax dodge (where you give control of your your money away) and the trustees predictably didn’t give the mother or son/transwoman a penny beyond basic maintenance .

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  194. I’m a bit late to this discussion, but I’m pretty sure you guys are mistaken. If you look at the BBC article here -

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28756059

    the fragrant Elizabeth is a 30 year old, “self-made”, Silicon Valley billionaire and basically the new Steve Jobs.

    I mean, it’s on the BBC website, so it must be true.

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  195. @tbraton
    "Brings to mind those hipsters in Brooklyn who were caught marketing imported, melted down French chocolate as their own home-brewed bean-to-bar artisanal chocolate at $10 per bar."

    That sort of "scam" has endless varieties. Many years ago, when I moved to Florida, I thought I would improve my language skills in a foreign language. I saw an ad in a magazine (NY Times Sunday magazine, as I recall) that offered tapes and books to go along with the tapes, so I ordered the set. "Audio Forum" was the company's name. When the materials arrived, the tapes all had the labels of the private company on them, but the books were from the U.S. Government Printing Office and labeled Foreign Service Institute of the U.S. Department of State. It was a good product, using native speakers on the audio portion, and I never thought much of it. After a while, I decided to order the second part of the course. I then discovered you could order the exact same course from the U.S. Government Printing Office for about a third of the cost. These were the same tapes and materials used by the State Department to train their personnel who were going overseas for assignment. Every language imaginable was covered. Since the materials were produced by the Government and were not copyrighted, what the clever private company was doing was buying the tapes and books from the GPO, relabeling the tapes with a label of their own, keeping the books in their original form, and selling the same product to the public at three times the price.(Or rerecording the tapes and just ordering the books from the GPO, which might have reduced their cost even more.) When I discovered that I could order the second part of the course from the GPO at 1/3 the price, I did so, of course. A few years ago I discovered that you can get the same stuff now for free just by downloading the recordings to your computer along with the accompanying written materials. It's a great resource for anyone who is trying to master a foreign language. I only wish that stuff was available when I was studying French in high school many years ago, but that was long before the technology like the Sony Walkman and the later Apple iPod came along to make its use convenient. I can't fault the private company. It was providing a useful service by advertising the product to the public and making it available to people who otherwise wouldn't know about the cheaper Government resource. I'm sure that kind of "thievery" goes on all the time in one form or other. It is the essence of trade: bringing products (like spices from the East) which are cheap in the place of origin to places that lack them (like Europe) but find them highly desirable but selling them at a much higher price. The prices start off high and enrich the people conducting the trade, but eventually market forces bring the prices down to the point where anyone can afford them.

    Chocolate is slightly different in that it involves a food product and that involves government regulation about "country of origin" and the like. But I understand that much of the olive oil that one buys from Greece or Italy is made from cheaper olives that are grown elsewhere in the Mediterranean area, such as North Africa or Spain. Greek or Italian olive oil commands a higher price because of the quality associated with those countries, but you have to be careful when you read the labels to make sure the oil is designated as made from olives grown in those countries and not from olives grown elsewhere and merely processed in Greece or Italy.

    Great.. What’s the link or website to those free audio files and materials for language learning?

    Thanks

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    • Replies: @Paco Wové
    Google "Foreign Service Language Institute".

    Some links:

    http://fsi-languages.yojik.eu/

    https://www.livelingua.com/fsi-language-courses.php

    http://www.openculture.com/2014/06/lessons-from-the-u-s-foreign-service-institute.html

    Mostly just repackagings of the same material, I think.
    , @tbraton
    Try this link: http://lifehacker.com/5523114/foreign-service-institutes-extensive-language-courses-are-available-free-online (scroll down the text to the bottom left and click on "FSI Language Courses"). Apparently, the free courses are provided by some non-profit outfit which is benefitting from the fact that the original material was not protected by copyright. I would ignore that reference to 1989. How much does a language change in 25 years? The basics remain the same.

    BTW I see Paco Wove has responded with other links that I haven't tried yet. But you get the general idea.
  196. @cthulhu


    Seriously, wear a warm jacket or coat until you take it off just before the “draw.” Cold extremities shrink the veins.

     

    Have tried this before, doesn't help. There are only two things that have helped:

    One, a very good phlebotomist suggested that I lay down flat (because it is very difficult for someone laying flat on their back to faint), then put my feet flat on the table and pull my knees up (to increase the blood volume and blood pressure in the upper half of my body);

    Two, the switch to the vacutainer collection tubes and the butterfly-style small-bore needle means the phlebotomist needs a smaller target than in the past.

    Combined, these two changes have moved blood draws from a near-torture experience (knowing that you're going to get woozy, feel nauseous, and probably pass out while experiencing a lot of pain made going to the doctor an experience to viscerally dread) to something that I can do with a few minutes of psyching myself up (those Lamaze childbirth classes come in handy again!), as long as I can stay supine for a few minutes afterwards to make sure I'm not dizzy. But a side-of-finger stick would be even better for me. I'm not holding out hope though.

    There would still be the problem (if one of the comments here is correct) that blood drawn from capillaries isn’t the same as blood drawn from large veins. For some purposes that, I presume, would make the finger stick collection less useful or even useless.

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    ...that blood drawn from capillaries isn’t the same as blood drawn from large veins

     

    That's why I said I wouldn't be holding my breath. :-)
  197. @Steve Sailer
    I feel like the Board might be able to call in a drone strike on short sellers.

    What is known about how the board members are remunerated?

    Presumably they get expenses at some level for attendances at board meetings and board related meetings – remuneration committee? – lobbying lunches in DC?

    All would have shares and maybe options but do they get regular fees, maybe low but turned into shares at a generous rate?

    I had a chance to join a board whose better known names were like those Ms Holmes has collected when a friend was the head of a seriously prestigious international organisation. I didn’t bother to ask whether I would be flown at the pointy end to board meetings in NY when he mentioned that I could have a place on the board (International Advisory Board I guess) for $40,000. At least I don’t suppose that I would have suffered much chance of being sued by anyone for anything. Would Ms. Holmes lot be so sure they were safe?

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  198. @spandrell
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLTAFbKbC8w

    Elizabeth Holmes, Theranos: Transforming Healthcare by Embracing Failure

    Yeah, baby, that'll do it. Embrace failure.

    Even her voice and cadence of speech are (bad) copies of Steve Jobs. Another case of female projection. She must have had some crush for the man, so she has become him.

    Interesting and very telling anecdote about designing a time machine when she was “really young”
    She talks about it with enormous pride, like it was a great success and a formative “achievement.” Naturally, her micro-sampling blood tester is already an equally great success. She learned at an early age that as a girl, it is enough simply that she wants a machine to exist and can wax on about how useful it could be.
    While there may be supposed benefits to a lowered voice wrt commanding authority etc., is there any evidence that this is not her natural voice? She signals something very transgendery in interviews.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous

    She signals something very transgendery in interviews.
     
    Or she could just be setting everyone up for her next strategy to keep the ponzi going: she comes out as transgender, and naturally as a brave, oppressed, transgender enterpreneur superstar, keeps the millions of venture capital flowing in.
  199. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Chet
    Interesting and very telling anecdote about designing a time machine when she was "really young"
    She talks about it with enormous pride, like it was a great success and a formative "achievement." Naturally, her micro-sampling blood tester is already an equally great success. She learned at an early age that as a girl, it is enough simply that she wants a machine to exist and can wax on about how useful it could be.
    While there may be supposed benefits to a lowered voice wrt commanding authority etc., is there any evidence that this is not her natural voice? She signals something very transgendery in interviews.

    She signals something very transgendery in interviews.

    Or she could just be setting everyone up for her next strategy to keep the ponzi going: she comes out as transgender, and naturally as a brave, oppressed, transgender enterpreneur superstar, keeps the millions of venture capital flowing in.

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  200. This is currently a featured article, and having to look at a playing card-sized portrait of this hollow-eyed Stepford bimbo on the Unz homepage is starting to creep me out.

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  201. @ringo starr
    Great.. What's the link or website to those free audio files and materials for language learning?

    Thanks

    Google “Foreign Service Language Institute”.

    Some links:

    http://fsi-languages.yojik.eu/

    https://www.livelingua.com/fsi-language-courses.php

    http://www.openculture.com/2014/06/lessons-from-the-u-s-foreign-service-institute.html

    Mostly just repackagings of the same material, I think.

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    Thanks a million.
    This is a gold mine.
    We actually used some of this Chinese Language material at a Dartmouth/Rassias total immersion course back in the 1990s. To get it from the Defense Language Inst. cost a few hundred bucks, but now it's all on line (audio and printed materials). It's a good course, but designed for the armed forces.... so the choice of vocabulary (e.g., military ranks) and situations are a little unusual for the layman.
  202. @Wizard of Oz
    There would still be the problem (if one of the comments here is correct) that blood drawn from capillaries isn't the same as blood drawn from large veins. For some purposes that, I presume, would make the finger stick collection less useful or even useless.

    …that blood drawn from capillaries isn’t the same as blood drawn from large veins

    That’s why I said I wouldn’t be holding my breath. :-)

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  203. @dr kill
    Oh my, the first classical straw man argument of 2016. Well done, Wiz.

    Did you read what I was replying to?

    It said “A female boss just can’t inspire or intimidate male underlings to pull through”. Was that not possible to interpret as saying that the quality or attribute of femaleness is incompatible with being able to obtain effective energetic obedience or inspired initiative from a female’s subordinates?

    So… explain how my suggestion that there were counter examples to such generalisations was a straw man argument. That is an argument which refutes one that hasn’t actually been put and is much weaker than the real one.

    I note that the argument was not that on average women have more trouble intimidating or inspiring men to achieve corporate goals than men in similar positions do (and Ms Holmes does not appear to be an exception). If it had been I might have asked for research that supported that impression and I might have suggested that inspiration and intimidation didn’t describe the full range of leadership skills and methods especially in the case of women vis a vis men.

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  204. @advancedatheist
    Sexologists have fallen way behind the Manosphere in understanding the incel phenomenon. I've just finished Justin J. Lehmiller's textbook, The Psychology of Human Sexuality, published in 2014. He only has this to say about what he thinks "involuntary celibacy" means (p. 232):

    Involuntary celibacy is a reality for some individuals when they lack access to a desired partner due to separation (e.g., military deployment), institutional restrictions (e.g., nursing homes may have rules that restrict sexual activity among patients), and other constraints (e.g., persons with physical and psychological disabilities may have caregivers who discourage or do not allow sex).

     

    In other words, Lehmiller and other sexologists whose textbooks I've read so far have refused to acknowledge the existence of healthy, able-bodied, free-range men who can't attract women, regardless of what they do.

    Sorry about my bad joke

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  205. @ringo starr
    Great.. What's the link or website to those free audio files and materials for language learning?

    Thanks

    Try this link: http://lifehacker.com/5523114/foreign-service-institutes-extensive-language-courses-are-available-free-online (scroll down the text to the bottom left and click on “FSI Language Courses”). Apparently, the free courses are provided by some non-profit outfit which is benefitting from the fact that the original material was not protected by copyright. I would ignore that reference to 1989. How much does a language change in 25 years? The basics remain the same.

    BTW I see Paco Wove has responded with other links that I haven’t tried yet. But you get the general idea.

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  206. @Anonymous

    All I know is she can distort the reality of my field any time.

     

    Although I don't care for blondes, she's fairly attractive.
    What do you call a blonde who dyes her hair black? Artificial intelligence.

    I don’t get your meaning. Your hair color preference is your own business, but connecting it with intellect the way you have is strange. Natural blonds (I assume you mean natural ones, since you refer to dying hair dark) are largely from northern and eastern Europe, and the IQs from among people of those areas are among the highest in the world. The “dumb blonde” stereotype was a Hollywood trope and referred to dyed blondes of a very unnatural palett, and an affected childlike voice. Tow-headed blond is associated with children, so that may be it.

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  207. @Reg Cæsar

    Just because the feminists are wrong about so much doesn’t mean they’re wrong about *everything*.
     
    Race-realist Michael Levin proposed that feminism is the first system of thought that manages to be wrong every single time. No male philosophy can claim that.

    “Male philosophy?” I never thought of philosophy breaking down that way. Everybody with any self-awareness wonders about why they exist (and even more about why other people exist.) Everybody forms some kind of thought system. Even the most indifferent student has some wiring ready to plug in the concepts. I don’t know what “feminism” as a “thought system” is, beyond the push for legal equality. Everything else is Alice Through the Looking Glass. Apparently the ladies are now more equal than men, so perhaps in the pursuit of justice for all, the “thought system” should go retrograde.

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    I don’t know what “feminism” as a “thought system” is, beyond the push for legal equality.
     
    The push for equality is egalitarianism, not feminism. The word implies women's interests trump all others.

    The "push" is asymmetrical. Norway's feminists got women included in the draft-- not registration, the active draft. American feminists won't lift a finger to get themselves merely registered. Norway's feminists are nuts, but at least they're consistent and honest. Nowhere else in the world is this so.
  208. I don’t know what “feminism” as a “thought system” is, beyond the push for legal equality.

    Feminism is collective bargaining in the sexual marketplace using women’s sexual power as leverage. It has nothing at all to do with “equality.” Feminists themselves are pretty explicit about this. Like organized labor, it’s already run into diminishing returns and is starting to lose ground as class and ethnic interests coalesce in our brave new multicultural country.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Feminism is collective bargaining in the sexual marketplace using women’s sexual power as leverage.
     
    You're confusing feminism with what came before feminism, and what it was intended to combat.
  209. @dcite
    "Male philosophy?" I never thought of philosophy breaking down that way. Everybody with any self-awareness wonders about why they exist (and even more about why other people exist.) Everybody forms some kind of thought system. Even the most indifferent student has some wiring ready to plug in the concepts. I don't know what "feminism" as a "thought system" is, beyond the push for legal equality. Everything else is Alice Through the Looking Glass. Apparently the ladies are now more equal than men, so perhaps in the pursuit of justice for all, the "thought system" should go retrograde.

    I don’t know what “feminism” as a “thought system” is, beyond the push for legal equality.

    The push for equality is egalitarianism, not feminism. The word implies women’s interests trump all others.

    The “push” is asymmetrical. Norway’s feminists got women included in the draft– not registration, the active draft. American feminists won’t lift a finger to get themselves merely registered. Norway’s feminists are nuts, but at least they’re consistent and honest. Nowhere else in the world is this so.

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    oh I foresaw all that years ago.Right around the corner in terms of the world history time-line. Naturally all sexes draft was next, but then the powers-that-be eliminated the draft and made it volunteer, and mostly lower SES. So the high SES people of congress and various other government bodies around the world, will send the young, lower-SES-girls off to war along with the lower-SES- boys. Sounds about right coming from the "elite" who have been banking heavily on feminism as a system of thought ever since it began. I once read one of the lesser known Rockefellers bragged about starting the feminist revolution of getting almost all women into the workforce (objectively, not a bad idea in some respects) because it gave them a bigger tax base. Qui bono.
    Actually it was the opinion of the relatively few "feminists" I read, that all war was insane and nobody should have to fight them. Most people I know agreed, but then, some of us are from another planet. Or feel that way.
  210. @Bill P

    I don’t know what “feminism” as a “thought system” is, beyond the push for legal equality.
     
    Feminism is collective bargaining in the sexual marketplace using women's sexual power as leverage. It has nothing at all to do with "equality." Feminists themselves are pretty explicit about this. Like organized labor, it's already run into diminishing returns and is starting to lose ground as class and ethnic interests coalesce in our brave new multicultural country.

    Feminism is collective bargaining in the sexual marketplace using women’s sexual power as leverage.

    You’re confusing feminism with what came before feminism, and what it was intended to combat.

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  211. @Ivy
    Well, Jimi was notably bi-polar.

    Well, Jimi was notably bi-polar.

    And he could play the guitar all four ways– a righty guitar right- or left-handed, and a lefty the same.

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  212. @Anonymous

    All I know is she can distort the reality of my field any time.

     

    Although I don't care for blondes, she's fairly attractive.
    What do you call a blonde who dyes her hair black? Artificial intelligence.

    What do you call a blonde who dyes her hair black?

    Minnesotan.

    Makes her look exotic. Around here, anyway.

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    I've noticed a lot of naturally blonde Finnish + Scandinavian girls dye their hair black (in London). To get away from the blonde stereotype or the the reputation that dyed-blonde women have.
  213. @Clyde

    Although they touted that heavily, I always thought the big advantage was the pricing: https://www.theranos.com/test-menu
     
    Then Theranos should be doing great.

    My local anylabtestnow will do a wide variety of tests with or without yr doctors consent. Perhaps this differs in other states. Just heard them advertising (on radio) a special of $3000 worth of tests for $1000. Doc or no Doc is not an issue.

    Thanks for the response.

    Then Theranos should be doing great.

    Well, medicine in the US has only a superficial resemblance to a functional market (prime issues being pricing is opaque to the patient and usually the payer differs from the beneficiary of the service) so I would not be quite so glib.

    Doc or no Doc is not an issue.

    This is a fairly recent development AFAICT (how long have you been using your lab this way?).
    For example, see this 2015 measure: http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/07/02/new-arizona-law-and-fda-approval-gives-theranos-something-to-celebrate/29634373/
    and this 2014 measure (this one is about access to results, not permission): https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/new-rule-allows-patients-to-get-test-results-directly-from-labs-without-doctors-clearance/2014/02/03/49c624ec-8d12-11e3-98ab-fe5228217bd1_story.html

    I think Theranos has been a big part of shaking up the lab test market and regulatory environment and I am grateful for that. For me the most dramatic thing about Theranos is how rapidly the hype machine shifted from overwhelmingly positive to negative. I wonder why…

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    • Replies: @Clyde
    Look up anylabtestnow.com. They have locations all over America. My local one has been advertising for 4-5 years that you just come in and get the tests you want. My local and state laws have allowed this for my local branch of anylabtestnow.com
    Privacy and not needing a doctors note/prescription is the basis of their advertising plus good prices. I have only gone there for some B12 shots. My lab tests are covered enough by my insurance so far.
    There are many reasons someone would want tests done 100% privately. My local anylabtest now is doing well...... For example- They offer their services to businesses that want drug tests for employees.
  214. @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t know what “feminism” as a “thought system” is, beyond the push for legal equality.
     
    The push for equality is egalitarianism, not feminism. The word implies women's interests trump all others.

    The "push" is asymmetrical. Norway's feminists got women included in the draft-- not registration, the active draft. American feminists won't lift a finger to get themselves merely registered. Norway's feminists are nuts, but at least they're consistent and honest. Nowhere else in the world is this so.

    oh I foresaw all that years ago.Right around the corner in terms of the world history time-line. Naturally all sexes draft was next, but then the powers-that-be eliminated the draft and made it volunteer, and mostly lower SES. So the high SES people of congress and various other government bodies around the world, will send the young, lower-SES-girls off to war along with the lower-SES- boys. Sounds about right coming from the “elite” who have been banking heavily on feminism as a system of thought ever since it began. I once read one of the lesser known Rockefellers bragged about starting the feminist revolution of getting almost all women into the workforce (objectively, not a bad idea in some respects) because it gave them a bigger tax base. Qui bono.
    Actually it was the opinion of the relatively few “feminists” I read, that all war was insane and nobody should have to fight them. Most people I know agreed, but then, some of us are from another planet. Or feel that way.

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  215. Father O'Hara [AKA "Rihanna"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Wizard of Oz
    How do you explain the success of Queen Elizabeth 1 of England, Margaret Thatcher, and perhaps Indira Gandhi, Golda Meir, Catherine the Great....?

    Thatcher was hated by many of her peeps for her nasty dismissive ‘tude. BTW I ACTUALLY READ this story in one of those money mags. I don’t recall if I rolled my eyes…I think so.

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    Yes Thatcher did upset some of the men (and probably women) but that tends to refute the point about women nit being able to intimidate which was half of the absurdity I was answering. As to inspiration I have heard plenty of testimony to her feminine charm being used when needed from her staff and even a Labor peer. Alan Clark's diaries provide similar evidence.
  216. Father O'Hara [AKA "Rihanna"] says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Wizard of Oz
    How do you explain the success of Queen Elizabeth 1 of England, Margaret Thatcher, and perhaps Indira Gandhi, Golda Meir, Catherine the Great....?

    When will that lovely Yahoo lady be dumped?

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  217. @Reg Cæsar

    What do you call a blonde who dyes her hair black?
     
    Minnesotan.

    Makes her look exotic. Around here, anyway.

    I’ve noticed a lot of naturally blonde Finnish + Scandinavian girls dye their hair black (in London). To get away from the blonde stereotype or the the reputation that dyed-blonde women have.

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  218. @Father O'Hara
    Thatcher was hated by many of her peeps for her nasty dismissive 'tude. BTW I ACTUALLY READ this story in one of those money mags. I don't recall if I rolled my eyes...I think so.

    Yes Thatcher did upset some of the men (and probably women) but that tends to refute the point about women nit being able to intimidate which was half of the absurdity I was answering. As to inspiration I have heard plenty of testimony to her feminine charm being used when needed from her staff and even a Labor peer. Alan Clark’s diaries provide similar evidence.

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  219. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Paco Wové
    Google "Foreign Service Language Institute".

    Some links:

    http://fsi-languages.yojik.eu/

    https://www.livelingua.com/fsi-language-courses.php

    http://www.openculture.com/2014/06/lessons-from-the-u-s-foreign-service-institute.html

    Mostly just repackagings of the same material, I think.

    Thanks a million.
    This is a gold mine.
    We actually used some of this Chinese Language material at a Dartmouth/Rassias total immersion course back in the 1990s. To get it from the Defense Language Inst. cost a few hundred bucks, but now it’s all on line (audio and printed materials). It’s a good course, but designed for the armed forces…. so the choice of vocabulary (e.g., military ranks) and situations are a little unusual for the layman.

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  220. @Langley
    It happened in Hawaii in the go-go '80s.

    A con named Ron Rewald established an investment firm in Hawaii called "Bishop, Baldwin, Rewald, Dillingham and Wong."

    That would be the equivalent of a Wall Street firm being named "Goldman, Buffett, Bloomberg, Maddoff, and Blankfein."

    It was a pyramid scamp that no one noticed as long as the money came in.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Rewald

    People want to believe the story.

    Yes, but when I first heard this story I couldn’t believe he got away with it for so long. It isn’t like there aren’t plenty of real Dillinghams, Baldwins and Bishops around to expose the scam, and yet they didn’t. Very odd. Particularly, given that Hawaii’s elite are a very close-knit set.

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  221. George Shultz still alive! I could have sworn I read that guy’s obituary years ago.

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  222. @res
    Thanks for the response.

    Then Theranos should be doing great.
     
    Well, medicine in the US has only a superficial resemblance to a functional market (prime issues being pricing is opaque to the patient and usually the payer differs from the beneficiary of the service) so I would not be quite so glib.

    Doc or no Doc is not an issue.
     
    This is a fairly recent development AFAICT (how long have you been using your lab this way?).
    For example, see this 2015 measure: http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/07/02/new-arizona-law-and-fda-approval-gives-theranos-something-to-celebrate/29634373/
    and this 2014 measure (this one is about access to results, not permission): https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/new-rule-allows-patients-to-get-test-results-directly-from-labs-without-doctors-clearance/2014/02/03/49c624ec-8d12-11e3-98ab-fe5228217bd1_story.html

    I think Theranos has been a big part of shaking up the lab test market and regulatory environment and I am grateful for that. For me the most dramatic thing about Theranos is how rapidly the hype machine shifted from overwhelmingly positive to negative. I wonder why...

    Look up anylabtestnow.com. They have locations all over America. My local one has been advertising for 4-5 years that you just come in and get the tests you want. My local and state laws have allowed this for my local branch of anylabtestnow.com
    Privacy and not needing a doctors note/prescription is the basis of their advertising plus good prices. I have only gone there for some B12 shots. My lab tests are covered enough by my insurance so far.
    There are many reasons someone would want tests done 100% privately. My local anylabtest now is doing well…… For example- They offer their services to businesses that want drug tests for employees.

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    Thanks for the pointer. Unfortunately anylabtestnow.com does not have a branch near me. I was unable to find pricing information on their web site. Do you have any pricing info for their tests? I would like to compare their pricing to http://www.lifeextension.com/Vitamins-Supplements/Blood-Tests/Blood-Tests
  223. @tbraton
    "Brings to mind those hipsters in Brooklyn who were caught marketing imported, melted down French chocolate as their own home-brewed bean-to-bar artisanal chocolate at $10 per bar."

    That sort of "scam" has endless varieties. Many years ago, when I moved to Florida, I thought I would improve my language skills in a foreign language. I saw an ad in a magazine (NY Times Sunday magazine, as I recall) that offered tapes and books to go along with the tapes, so I ordered the set. "Audio Forum" was the company's name. When the materials arrived, the tapes all had the labels of the private company on them, but the books were from the U.S. Government Printing Office and labeled Foreign Service Institute of the U.S. Department of State. It was a good product, using native speakers on the audio portion, and I never thought much of it. After a while, I decided to order the second part of the course. I then discovered you could order the exact same course from the U.S. Government Printing Office for about a third of the cost. These were the same tapes and materials used by the State Department to train their personnel who were going overseas for assignment. Every language imaginable was covered. Since the materials were produced by the Government and were not copyrighted, what the clever private company was doing was buying the tapes and books from the GPO, relabeling the tapes with a label of their own, keeping the books in their original form, and selling the same product to the public at three times the price.(Or rerecording the tapes and just ordering the books from the GPO, which might have reduced their cost even more.) When I discovered that I could order the second part of the course from the GPO at 1/3 the price, I did so, of course. A few years ago I discovered that you can get the same stuff now for free just by downloading the recordings to your computer along with the accompanying written materials. It's a great resource for anyone who is trying to master a foreign language. I only wish that stuff was available when I was studying French in high school many years ago, but that was long before the technology like the Sony Walkman and the later Apple iPod came along to make its use convenient. I can't fault the private company. It was providing a useful service by advertising the product to the public and making it available to people who otherwise wouldn't know about the cheaper Government resource. I'm sure that kind of "thievery" goes on all the time in one form or other. It is the essence of trade: bringing products (like spices from the East) which are cheap in the place of origin to places that lack them (like Europe) but find them highly desirable but selling them at a much higher price. The prices start off high and enrich the people conducting the trade, but eventually market forces bring the prices down to the point where anyone can afford them.

    Chocolate is slightly different in that it involves a food product and that involves government regulation about "country of origin" and the like. But I understand that much of the olive oil that one buys from Greece or Italy is made from cheaper olives that are grown elsewhere in the Mediterranean area, such as North Africa or Spain. Greek or Italian olive oil commands a higher price because of the quality associated with those countries, but you have to be careful when you read the labels to make sure the oil is designated as made from olives grown in those countries and not from olives grown elsewhere and merely processed in Greece or Italy.

    True (and I may use those tapes/files–thanks!), but we already know about chocolate. ;)

    Of course, I just think it’s funny the hipsters got ripped off. You see the video where they feed them McDonald’s and they go on about how fresh it tastes?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qa6QXBxxWw

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    Well, that tape certainly tells you why so many Europeans are able to swallow the government BS about the glories of mass immigration. Very revealing. Unfortunately, we have too many of those types here in America. I hope there are plenty left here like those two dudes who ran the stunt, who displayed an admirably cynical attitude, at least when it comes to McDonald's. (BTW I rarely eat at fast food restaurants such as McDonald's, but I have to admit that McDonald's serves pretty decent food for the most part---as long as you don't eat it every day.)

    BTW I remember reading once so long ago I can't remember when exactly. It may have been when I was in college in the 60's and reading the NY Times. There was an article about how certain Italian wine producers were caught selling as "Chianti" a wine produced not from grapes but from much cheaper fruit like plums. I seem to recall that similar scams have been uncovered from time to time over the years. So the scams have always been with us. A particularly funny example happened years ago when I first moved to Florida. I read in the paper about a restaurant that was caught selling "lamb" shish kabob actually made using less expensive pork. Of course, the Jewish part of the restaurant's clientele was particularly upset by the revelation and understandably so. The really funny part occurred when the Greek owner denied the charge to the reporter and blamed the incident on another restaurant with a similar name owned by anther Greek---apparently a friend at the time.
  224. @Jim Christian
    Yeah, well, ROK posted the article to make an entirely different point, serving an entirely different agenda. That's what ROK is, after all. Their interest is crybaby, look at that woman billionaire, it's unfair and perhaps that's the truth, or a grain therein, but Holmes is a puppethead blond, a moron and everyone knew it. And she didn't need Chinese to sell tech in Singapore, why the hell is that relevant? She was a front, a moron dropout. She couldn't study STEM at Stanford, she's an idiot, that's why she dropped out. And there ROK stopped, because their interest was simply to shit on the woman. They actually ignored the larger point.

    Holmes could have been a guy, an uglier woman, or anyone. The larger point is the scam they are/were attempting to perpetrate with this Theranos. Sailer's points here are to illustrate the violations of science and the propriety of the investors and board members pushing out a shitty product on the sheer strength of famous, insider personalities. Holmes was simply the face they advanced.

    Mr. Sailer didn't quite get to it, but what those bastards REALLY wanted was to put Theranos up for an IPO, fleece the investor public, raise a few tens of billions on say, NASDAQ and as soon as that was done pay themselves and burn cash while reverting Theranos to old tech or figure something else out for it, likely loot it and close it like Solyndra. The "innovative" blood testing was a dangerous sham, the FDA knew it and NASDAQ or whomever would have figured it out. They're cut off at the pass and it's about time one of these finally was. Nice try though. The notion that a crooked, empty storefront is "worth" 9 billion is a gag-bag of a joke. The principals at Theranos have turtled and now that the truth is out, everyone with dough in the kitty is looking madly for a way out.

    ROK never contemplated any of that stuff.

    ROK does have a point in that she used her sex to get more marks.

    Thanks for explaining the scam, though. I knew something was fishy but couldn’t figure out what they were trying to do.

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  225. […] field” in Elizabeth Holmes and her troubled tech startup Thanatos, Uncle Steve looks at prolific board members and what information we can derive from […]

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  226. @Jim Christian
    Yeah, well, ROK posted the article to make an entirely different point, serving an entirely different agenda. That's what ROK is, after all. Their interest is crybaby, look at that woman billionaire, it's unfair and perhaps that's the truth, or a grain therein, but Holmes is a puppethead blond, a moron and everyone knew it. And she didn't need Chinese to sell tech in Singapore, why the hell is that relevant? She was a front, a moron dropout. She couldn't study STEM at Stanford, she's an idiot, that's why she dropped out. And there ROK stopped, because their interest was simply to shit on the woman. They actually ignored the larger point.

    Holmes could have been a guy, an uglier woman, or anyone. The larger point is the scam they are/were attempting to perpetrate with this Theranos. Sailer's points here are to illustrate the violations of science and the propriety of the investors and board members pushing out a shitty product on the sheer strength of famous, insider personalities. Holmes was simply the face they advanced.

    Mr. Sailer didn't quite get to it, but what those bastards REALLY wanted was to put Theranos up for an IPO, fleece the investor public, raise a few tens of billions on say, NASDAQ and as soon as that was done pay themselves and burn cash while reverting Theranos to old tech or figure something else out for it, likely loot it and close it like Solyndra. The "innovative" blood testing was a dangerous sham, the FDA knew it and NASDAQ or whomever would have figured it out. They're cut off at the pass and it's about time one of these finally was. Nice try though. The notion that a crooked, empty storefront is "worth" 9 billion is a gag-bag of a joke. The principals at Theranos have turtled and now that the truth is out, everyone with dough in the kitty is looking madly for a way out.

    ROK never contemplated any of that stuff.

    Well ROK’S whole schtick is skewering feminism and its effects, albeit often in a highly juvenile and clickbaity fashion.

    They never claim that their perspective on stories is the whole truth.

    There are multiple ways to look at this story, all equally valid.

    Your perspective seems quite plausible but it’s not fair to criticize ROK for focusing on the situation’s relevance to feminism. I doubt you’d criticize your cardiologist for not wanting to discuss your astigmatism in detail.

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    ROK's schtick is a wide variety of topics, much is about shams of all sorts, the races, international affairs,finance and not least, the politics surrounding all. And I like Roosh ok, he's from my old hometown, DC. Or at least, he set up shop there initially many years ago, I've known of him for many years. He's taken on too many lame MGTOW types for my taste, some with strange history and intentions, but here nor there. And then again, writers of any type are hard to come by when the names are cloaked to protect the nefarious.

    As a tech-type of perfect chronological placement in Northern Virginia, considered at the time to be Ground Zero of that period of tech, I saw a lot of schemes come and go and knew several VCs that staked some whacky ideas, as success was one in 1000 whacky ideas of course even now. Nonetheless, Mario Morino, the king of the VCs back then, in the 80s-2000s advised an exit from tech in the late 90s based on the sheer nuttiness of proposals brought before his group that would receive rather high finance and some, IPO status, many whose crash wrecked 401Ks from here to China. He was a smart man, Mario. By 2000 the DotBomb mushroom cloud was in full bloom.

    Hence, my wonder at a notion of Theranos, with a "value" of 9 billion, boarded by heavies nearly bringing their "product" to fruition on the investor's backs via IPO (it was plotted, just not quite executed). And I expect the MGTOW crowd at ROK to hate a "billionaire" scam artist armed with a pretty female face, but in ROK's recent efforts to paint itself as more than MGTOW, I didn't think a blonde with dough would piss them off more than the notion of more theft and pillage, which is the real story of Theranos. We already knew what Ms. Holmes is. The only issue for the lofty gents that populate Theranos' board was of course, as it always is, price.

    Here nor there, as I said.

  227. @AndrewR
    Well ROK'S whole schtick is skewering feminism and its effects, albeit often in a highly juvenile and clickbaity fashion.

    They never claim that their perspective on stories is the whole truth.

    There are multiple ways to look at this story, all equally valid.

    Your perspective seems quite plausible but it's not fair to criticize ROK for focusing on the situation's relevance to feminism. I doubt you'd criticize your cardiologist for not wanting to discuss your astigmatism in detail.

    ROK’s schtick is a wide variety of topics, much is about shams of all sorts, the races, international affairs,finance and not least, the politics surrounding all. And I like Roosh ok, he’s from my old hometown, DC. Or at least, he set up shop there initially many years ago, I’ve known of him for many years. He’s taken on too many lame MGTOW types for my taste, some with strange history and intentions, but here nor there. And then again, writers of any type are hard to come by when the names are cloaked to protect the nefarious.

    As a tech-type of perfect chronological placement in Northern Virginia, considered at the time to be Ground Zero of that period of tech, I saw a lot of schemes come and go and knew several VCs that staked some whacky ideas, as success was one in 1000 whacky ideas of course even now. Nonetheless, Mario Morino, the king of the VCs back then, in the 80s-2000s advised an exit from tech in the late 90s based on the sheer nuttiness of proposals brought before his group that would receive rather high finance and some, IPO status, many whose crash wrecked 401Ks from here to China. He was a smart man, Mario. By 2000 the DotBomb mushroom cloud was in full bloom.

    Hence, my wonder at a notion of Theranos, with a “value” of 9 billion, boarded by heavies nearly bringing their “product” to fruition on the investor’s backs via IPO (it was plotted, just not quite executed). And I expect the MGTOW crowd at ROK to hate a “billionaire” scam artist armed with a pretty female face, but in ROK’s recent efforts to paint itself as more than MGTOW, I didn’t think a blonde with dough would piss them off more than the notion of more theft and pillage, which is the real story of Theranos. We already knew what Ms. Holmes is. The only issue for the lofty gents that populate Theranos’ board was of course, as it always is, price.

    Here nor there, as I said.

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    Well as I said, you paint a cogent hypothesis but your angle seems less obvious than the "Pretty Blonde Daughter of High Status Parents Gets Hailed As the Next Steve Jobs Because of Grrl Power" angle.
  228. …perhaps the Elizabeth Holmes’ reality distortion field was so strong that all the venture capitalists and famous board members backing her never noticed that she actually wasn’t a genius biotech inventor?

    Looks to me like a good reason to avoid any company with an overabundance of government flunkies on its board. It really shouldn’t take a lot of intelligence to figure this out – look a how they have fucked up government. Fucking up a company or even jumping aboard a fraudulent company are required skills for these slimeballs.

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    Check out the boards of all the publicly-traded corporations. The same faces appear on ALL of them. Being a sought-after board member is a GREAT gig. Hell, actors, athletes, politicians, if you're prominent, you get asked to be on a corporate board. Boards are the face of "credibility" after all. Michelle O! appeared on many hospital boards throughout the country and especially Chicago when Baraq was a young senator. Big money, that board gig. Billions and billions served to board members, it's not just Theranos. The board was loaded at Theranos, but the boards of directors are loaded everywhere. THEY, board members ARE the top 1/1o0th of the top 1% after all.
  229. @Clyde
    Look up anylabtestnow.com. They have locations all over America. My local one has been advertising for 4-5 years that you just come in and get the tests you want. My local and state laws have allowed this for my local branch of anylabtestnow.com
    Privacy and not needing a doctors note/prescription is the basis of their advertising plus good prices. I have only gone there for some B12 shots. My lab tests are covered enough by my insurance so far.
    There are many reasons someone would want tests done 100% privately. My local anylabtest now is doing well...... For example- They offer their services to businesses that want drug tests for employees.

    Thanks for the pointer. Unfortunately anylabtestnow.com does not have a branch near me. I was unable to find pricing information on their web site. Do you have any pricing info for their tests? I would like to compare their pricing to http://www.lifeextension.com/Vitamins-Supplements/Blood-Tests/Blood-Tests

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  230. @Jim Christian
    ROK's schtick is a wide variety of topics, much is about shams of all sorts, the races, international affairs,finance and not least, the politics surrounding all. And I like Roosh ok, he's from my old hometown, DC. Or at least, he set up shop there initially many years ago, I've known of him for many years. He's taken on too many lame MGTOW types for my taste, some with strange history and intentions, but here nor there. And then again, writers of any type are hard to come by when the names are cloaked to protect the nefarious.

    As a tech-type of perfect chronological placement in Northern Virginia, considered at the time to be Ground Zero of that period of tech, I saw a lot of schemes come and go and knew several VCs that staked some whacky ideas, as success was one in 1000 whacky ideas of course even now. Nonetheless, Mario Morino, the king of the VCs back then, in the 80s-2000s advised an exit from tech in the late 90s based on the sheer nuttiness of proposals brought before his group that would receive rather high finance and some, IPO status, many whose crash wrecked 401Ks from here to China. He was a smart man, Mario. By 2000 the DotBomb mushroom cloud was in full bloom.

    Hence, my wonder at a notion of Theranos, with a "value" of 9 billion, boarded by heavies nearly bringing their "product" to fruition on the investor's backs via IPO (it was plotted, just not quite executed). And I expect the MGTOW crowd at ROK to hate a "billionaire" scam artist armed with a pretty female face, but in ROK's recent efforts to paint itself as more than MGTOW, I didn't think a blonde with dough would piss them off more than the notion of more theft and pillage, which is the real story of Theranos. We already knew what Ms. Holmes is. The only issue for the lofty gents that populate Theranos' board was of course, as it always is, price.

    Here nor there, as I said.

    Well as I said, you paint a cogent hypothesis but your angle seems less obvious than the “Pretty Blonde Daughter of High Status Parents Gets Hailed As the Next Steve Jobs Because of Grrl Power” angle.

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    Yeah, that's the sexier story line, isn't it? Steve Sailer went after the more relevant points, the corruption, the influence and the sheer crookedness, in effect, the actual meat of the matter. Those bastards were trying to pull off a mafia-breakout with Theranos. Get the investors' money via IPO, loot it for all it's worth, bankrupt it. Feminism, ROK's main object of hatred and whining, had little to do with Theranos. Nothing in fact. She was a distraction, a pretty little front for the sting. I'm amazed the investor classes called bullshit for once.

    When ROK was mentioned, I checked their version, they just went after the meat, Ha! Naw, Roosh's angle was his anger at the feminist influence in Theranos and there simply wasn't any. This Theranos was men at work all the way. Crooked, influential men. And good on Steve Sailor for his article. Theranos was a good one to get headed off at the pass. It took numerous articles by several publications to wake everyone up to what was going on inside. I salute one and all that shined light on the fraud before it was put into play with innocent money via IPO.

    Good take, Andrew.
  231. @AndrewR
    Well as I said, you paint a cogent hypothesis but your angle seems less obvious than the "Pretty Blonde Daughter of High Status Parents Gets Hailed As the Next Steve Jobs Because of Grrl Power" angle.

    Yeah, that’s the sexier story line, isn’t it? Steve Sailer went after the more relevant points, the corruption, the influence and the sheer crookedness, in effect, the actual meat of the matter. Those bastards were trying to pull off a mafia-breakout with Theranos. Get the investors’ money via IPO, loot it for all it’s worth, bankrupt it. Feminism, ROK’s main object of hatred and whining, had little to do with Theranos. Nothing in fact. She was a distraction, a pretty little front for the sting. I’m amazed the investor classes called bullshit for once.

    When ROK was mentioned, I checked their version, they just went after the meat, Ha! Naw, Roosh’s angle was his anger at the feminist influence in Theranos and there simply wasn’t any. This Theranos was men at work all the way. Crooked, influential men. And good on Steve Sailor for his article. Theranos was a good one to get headed off at the pass. It took numerous articles by several publications to wake everyone up to what was going on inside. I salute one and all that shined light on the fraud before it was put into play with innocent money via IPO.

    Good take, Andrew.

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  232. @woodNfish

    ...perhaps the Elizabeth Holmes’ reality distortion field was so strong that all the venture capitalists and famous board members backing her never noticed that she actually wasn’t a genius biotech inventor?
     
    Looks to me like a good reason to avoid any company with an overabundance of government flunkies on its board. It really shouldn't take a lot of intelligence to figure this out - look a how they have fucked up government. Fucking up a company or even jumping aboard a fraudulent company are required skills for these slimeballs.

    Check out the boards of all the publicly-traded corporations. The same faces appear on ALL of them. Being a sought-after board member is a GREAT gig. Hell, actors, athletes, politicians, if you’re prominent, you get asked to be on a corporate board. Boards are the face of “credibility” after all. Michelle O! appeared on many hospital boards throughout the country and especially Chicago when Baraq was a young senator. Big money, that board gig. Billions and billions served to board members, it’s not just Theranos. The board was loaded at Theranos, but the boards of directors are loaded everywhere. THEY, board members ARE the top 1/1o0th of the top 1% after all.

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    What you won't find on most boards is an overweight of ex-government hacks. My point was that these ex-government morons don't know anything about business because they've never run one, so the fact they are the board for a fraudulent and failing business is of no surprise. Maybe the lesson they will learn is that budgets aren't infinite wells of taxpayer money and government regulation is the enemy of prosperity and opportunity. But in realit