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As I’ve long mentioned, the New York Times tends to employ a number of good news reporters who do feel a responsibility to eventually wedge into their stories a few facts that might disrupt The Narrative even when the truth disturbs the delicate feelings of the all-important Subscriber Base. A compromise appears to have evolved in which the opening paragraphs support The Narrative, while the end of the article, long after most people have stopped reading, can get around to revealing what actually happened.

The current NYT format is the opposite of the old one from the days of telegraph-based journalism in which reporters, worried that only part of their story might get through the telegraph lines, started with the most important facts (The Five Ws) and then proceeded to more trivial matters.

Hence, from the New York Times today (with me numbering the paragraphs):

By Derrick Bryson Taylor
July 21, 2019

[1] A black member of Georgia’s House of Representatives said she had been the target of verbal harassment and had been told “go back where you came from” at a grocery store near Atlanta on Friday.

[2] In a video posted to her Facebook account, the representative, Erica Thomas, said she was “shocked” that a white man had confronted her for having too many items in the express checkout lane at a Publix grocery store in Mableton, Ga.

[3] She said the man had cursed at her and accused her of being “lazy.” It was unclear if the episode had been captured on surveillance video, but Ms. Thomas said she had not recorded it.

[4] “People are getting really out of control with this, with this white privilege,” Ms. Thomas said in the video, crying. “People need to see the hate that is going on in this country. The hate is real.”

[5] Ms. Thomas had been scared to leave the store because she thought the man was going to follow her or “take out a gun,” she said. “You just never know.”

[6] Ms. Thomas, who is nine months pregnant, said she is unable to stand on her feet for long periods of time. She said her 9-year-old daughter had been with her at the store during the encounter.

[7] The lawmaker, who was elected in 2014, wrote on Twitter that her husband had not been with her at the supermarket because he is on active duty “serving the country I came from USA!”

Finally, after seven paragraphs of Pure Narrative, we start to get to Inconvenient Facts:

[8] On Saturday, station WSB-TV was preparing to interview Ms. Thomas at the store when she saw the man who she said had confronted her. The man, who identified himself as Eric Sparkes, said he was there to speak with managers at Publix.

[8] Mr. Sparkes told the station that the episode had started after he had decided to say something about the number of items in her cart on his way out of the store.

[9] Ms. Thomas said in her Facebook video that she had between 15 and 20 items in her cart in the express lane, which was designated for 10 items or less. Mr. Sparkes said he was buying three items.

[11] Mr. Sparkes, who denied being racist and said he was Cuban, acknowledged that he had called Ms. Thomas “lazy,” but said that had been the “worst” of his comments.

[12] “This woman, Ms. Thomas, is playing the victim for political purposes because she is a state legislator,” he told the station. “I’m a Democrat and will vote Democrat for the rest of my life, so call me whatever you want to believe. For her political purposes, make it black, white, brown, whatever. It’s untrue.”

[13] Ms. Thomas is a Democrat. Records about Mr. Sparkes’s party registration were not immediately available on Sunday.

[14] Asked by the television station if Mr. Sparkes had told her “go back where you came from,” Ms. Thomas said: “I don’t want to say he said, ‘Go back to your country,’ or ‘Go back to where you came from.’ But he was making those types of references is what I remember.” In her Facebook video and on Twitter, however, she recounted that was what he had said.

You might think that in an NYT article dated Sunday, July 21, the day after the story broke nationally, paragraph 14 should have been the lead: the black woman Democratic politician is now walking back her central claim that #ExpressLaneEric told her to “go back where you came from.”

But in the Current Year NYT, the new news gets buried in paragraph 14, so as not to subvert the smug assurance of most subscribers that The Narrative is real.

 
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  1. This “he may have had a gun and was following me” bit is something I ran into one time on the road. It was a white lady whom I’d politely told to stop beeping the damn horn, while I stopped on the 35 mph 2-lane road to let a couple walk across. She told the cops I had a gun (I didn’t in this case).

    Yeah, she was really worried, as she followed me through an intersection, after I had purposefully waited for a yellow lot to leave her behind. The only reason I didn’t file for charge for false reporting to the cops after 3 cars pulled me over, is that my record, insurance coverage, etc. were a little spotty.

  2. At least this story had some “news you can use” in it. The next time someone calls me that evil word, I’ll be all “I’m not racist, I’m Cuban!”

  3. JimDandy says:

    Ha ha ha! Oh, My God, hang your head in shame, NYT, you pathetic, race-hustling charlatans.

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  4. Anonymous[356] • Disclaimer says:

    #ExpressLaneEric or #ExpressLaneErica

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  5. I can’t find the exact quote, but I remember reading a senior staff at the New York Times say something to the effect of (parphrasing): “Give me control of the headlines, and I control public perception, regardless of who controls the editorial board.”

    When I read NYT comments, I see comments that are much more moderate or even right wing compared to the article. I’ve heard people say that media must adapt to the bias of their audience, but that doesn’t seem to be the case with NYT… However, their slant to the left of their readership probably does fuel a market for more right wing coverage that is closer to the readers.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Jim Christian
  6. Line chiseling, in all its sundry forms, is now front center. How do you rank in line chiseling, 1 to 10? Has anyone encouraged you to chisel line? Do you consider line chiseling to be a punishable offense? How would Cotton Mather feel about line chiseling? I’m pretty sure that lots of Americans, especially from the strict rule following classes, are not sympathetic to line chiseling, so I question the wisdom in pushing this forward in order to distract POC from a central characteristic of mass immigration, and to fan the flame of justice among.the descendants of Mather.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @guest
  7. “I’m a Democrat and will vote Democrat for the rest of my life, so call me whatever you want to believe.

    This is the truly bizarre part of this non-story.

    I’m tempted to say he deserved this.

  8. Anonymous[356] • Disclaimer says:
    @Massimo Heitor

    I can’t find the exact quote, but I remember reading a senior staff at the New York Times say something to the effect of (parphrasing): “Give me control of the headlines, and I control public perception, regardless of who controls the editorial board.”

    He who controls the media, controls the country.

  9. Derrik Bryson Taylor (DBT):

    Old Dirty Bastard (ODB):

  10. @Anonymous

    Black woman with a bullhorn. Get used to it or go back where you came from.

  11. Hail says: • Website

    Worth saying:

    Some vague report of a minor argument in a grocery store somewhere, between two unknown people, is not legitimate news. Not in a country of ca. 250 million (plus ca. 80 million+ guests) (i.e., national headline news), not even in a small city of 25,000.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @Bubba
  12. I can’t find the exact quote, but I remember reading a senior staff at the New York Times say something to the effect of (parphrasing): “Give me control of the headlines, and I control public perception, regardless of who controls the editorial board.”

    I worked at a newspaper as a proofreader for a while. I shared a desk with another proofer who was a retired CIA intelligence analyst, but that is a story for another day.

    Headlines were almost never written by senior staff, but usually by copy editors, and the main criterion was thinking of something that would fit nicely into the available space in the layout and attract eyeballs. Sometimes when the copy editors were stuck, they would ask anyone in sight to suggest a headline of x number of characters.

    Often the copy editors who wrote the headlines minutes before the page went to the printers had not even read story, so I would not attribute too much significance to headlines. Often stories were cut off before the whole story was told, if there was not enough space, so the final paragraphs were not always printed.

    Many of my suggestions were used, and actually I tried my hand at laying out pages a number of times, but I have since forgotten nearly all of my headlines. One of my best that I remember was for a photo of a cowboy riding a bucking bronco at a local rodeo. My headline was Get Off My Back–thus telling the story from the point of view of the animal.

    • Replies: @Western
    , @Hypnotoad666
    , @Cortes
  13. Western says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    I read a headline in the Daily Mail that said the exact opposite of what the story said. The guy who wrote the headline probably just glanced at the story if he even did that.

  14. She was exercising HER privilege with 23 items in the 10 item line. Fuck these White folks, they can’t say shit to ME. Privilege resides in her mind and she takes full advantage of it. These sorts can pull off whatever societal depravity, lies, false accusations or bad manners they want all day long and no one challenges them because they’re Black women. It’s always the women pulling this stuff. This one was borderline race hoax and to top it off, NYTimes supported the lie knowing full well it was a lie.

    Privilege is real, all right.

    • Replies: @Rex Little
  15. @Massimo Heitor

    When I read NYT comments, I see comments that are much more moderate or even right wing compared to the article.

    Agreed and it surprises me that the NYT comments are far more reasonable than the lies in the articles. Go to WashPost and read ANY comments to EVERY article, it could be about the weather, a hit and run accident, you name it, the comments are filled with Trump references. Refute the association and they reply with “Putin!”, “Cheeto eater”, nonsensical horseshit like that. Washington’s paper of record, Washington Post, ought to have as their slogan “Intelligence Dies Here”.

    The comments have to be political plants.

  16. CCZ says:

    Orchestrated Outrage??

    Atlanta Journal-Constitution, The (GA), July 20, 2019
    SCLC CONFERENCE, Greg Bluestein

    “Trump’s ‘go back’ comments shake up Georgia politics.”

    By the time Hillary Clinton took the stage in Atlanta on Friday to address a venerated civil rights group, many in the room had invoked the incendiary tweets by the man who defeated her that roiled politics in Georgia and the rest of the nation.

    And Clinton held little back at the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, labeling President Donald Trump’s assertion that four liberal congresswoman of color should “go back” to their home countries as racist.

    Her remarks helped crystallize the sense of outrage among Georgia Democrats over Trump’s approach.

    And candidates and activists took to social media, party gatherings and their mailing lists to share stories of when they were subtly or explicitly labeled “the other” and encouraged to leave the country.

    “Being told to ‘go back’ is a phrase I’ve grown up with. This un-American rhetoric is driven by Trump to distract from the real problem,” said Nabilah Islam, a Democratic contender in the 7th Congressional District who shared pictures of messages demanding she “leave Georgia.”

    And state Rep. Erica Thomas posted a tearful video on Facebook on Friday saying she was accosted at a Publix by a man who called her “ignorant” and “lazy” for having too many items in the express lane.

    “It hurt me so badly,” she said, wiping away tears. “I can’t even explain why he had so much hate in his heart.”

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    , @Autochthon
  17. Gunner says:

    I know some people here tell me to stop going to The Root, but it is helpful when you want to stay informed about the retarded woke wypipo haters out there. Even they arent talking about this story, so I think #expresslineerica will not join the Wall of Oppressed Black Heroes.

    Either that, or the Root tweeps were too busy shucking and jiving this weekend to offer comment.

  18. anon[192] • Disclaimer says:

    [11] Mr. Sparkes, who denied being racist and said he was Cuban, acknowledged that he had called Ms. Thomas “lazy,” but said that had been the “worst” of his comments.

    His actual words were “lazy bitch”.

    NYT wants this one to go away. She already backtracked. He’s a Dem and “Cuban, not white”. What happened to the old “White Hispanic”? Only seemed to apply that word to one person…actually fits here.

    • Replies: @newrouter
    , @Erik Sieven
  19. She can’t go back to from where she came. No ocean is that big.

  20. Anonymous[356] • Disclaimer says:
    @Neil Templeton

    Line chiseling, in all its sundry forms, is now front center.

    What is “line chiseling”?

  21. JerryC says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The idea that Cubans can’t be racist is…intriguing.

  22. Moses says:

    The important thing is not whether it actually happened, but that it could have happened.

    That is all that matters.

    White people Bad. Not White people Good.

    The hoaxes will continue as long as people benefit from them.

    It will get worse — much worse — before (or if) it gets better.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @Jack D
  23. What are the chances she’s not really 9 months pregnant?

    • Replies: @CCZ
    , @FLgeezer
  24. Mr. Anon says:

    Perhaps unpleasant situations such as this one could be solved with a simple fix: separate (but equal) checkout lines for black and white people. Black people would no longer have to suffer the indignity of being oppressed by white privilege in the checkout-line. End Retail-Racism Now!

  25. Of course the NYT assigned a black writer to get to the bottom of this story

  26. lhtness says:

    A woman in Georgia had 15 items got in the 10-items-or-less express lane. A guy yelled at her about it. And our overlords deem it national news because she alleges the guy told her to go back to where she came from, even though that doesn’t make any sense since she was probably born and raised in the USA, as have been her ancestors for hundreds of years.

  27. Paul says:

    Asked by the television station if Mr. Sparkes had told her “go back where you came from,” Ms. Thomas said: “I don’t want to say he said, ‘Go back to your country,’ or ‘Go back to where you came from.’ But he was making those types of references is what I remember.” In her Facebook video and on Twitter, however, she recounted that was what he had said.

    At least she is now admitting to being a liar.

  28. newrouter says:
    @anon

    >His actual words were “lazy bitch”. <

    You witnessed this encounter?

    • Replies: @anon
  29. Scott X says:

    Way back in 1979, me and three of my friends had taken the bus downtown to see a movie, and we were in a department store discussing which one we should go see. I mentioned the movie “The Villian”, which I said had Kirk Douglas, Ann-Margret and Arnold Schwarzenegger in it. I had barely finished saying Schwarzenegger, when I heard a very irate from behind me say, “I heard what you called me!”

    I spun around to see an angry black woman staring at me, and I immediately realied that she had misheard me. So I quickly said, “I was talking about Arnold Schwarzenegger.” To which her reply was, “No, you weren’t!” Fortune was on my side that day, as the elevator door that we were waiting for swung open and we suddenly had a means of escape. We piled into the elevator and began to laugh hysterically at the absurdity of the whole situation as the elevator whisked us away from my would-be tormentor.

    I can only imagine how this whole epis0de would play out in today’s world. The woman would contact the local news station to hold a press conference to say that four white boys had been harassing her and calling her the n-word. The mayor and local newspaper would condemn this type of hate in our city, and both would blame Donald Trump for encouraging this type of white supremacy behavior. Eventually, the cameras in the store would be used to identify me, and I would become the 13-year-old version of Nick Sandmann.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
  30. CCZ says:
    @Foreign Expert

    Nine months pregnant may be her 1 truth!!

    In March 2019, in opposing the Georgia “Heartbeat Bill,” State Rep. Erica Thomas, “an Austell Democrat who is five months pregnant,” said: “In August, I will have the privilege to bring beautiful life to this earth. But that decision was my husband and I’s decision to make. And no one in this chamber has the right to make that choice for me and my family.”

    Atlanta Journal-Constitution, The (GA)
    March 9, 2019
    “Vote on ‘heartbeat bill’ could mean Georgia tests Roe v. Wade.”

    • Replies: @newrouter
    , @stillCARealist
  31. @JerryC

    “I’m not racist, I’m Cuban!”

    Gotta love it. Inoculate yourself against the Charge of Racism by pointing out that you’re not white! And if you’re obviously white, point out that you’re not BadWhite! And if all else fails, choose some Latin American country or something.

    So long as you’re not really really white, you can play cards. This slicing-and-dicing, mincing words, one-drop thing our “Cultural Leaders” have going on is so obsessive, it’s almost reminiscent of…hold on, it’ll come to me…

  32. newrouter says:
    @CCZ

    >But that decision was my husband and I’s decision to make.<

    Those pesky eyes noticing stuff

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  33. They are probably not going to be impressed with this new work then:

    Race Differences in Psychopathic Personality

    Looks like selection removes genes for psychopathic personality from the gene pool as the size of communal groups gets larger and larger.

  34. @Hail

    Some vague report of a minor argument in a grocery store somewhere, between two unknown people, is not legitimate news.

    Only in a legitimate country. Probably the kind which has borders ‘n stuff.

    In this country, though, it’s not only legitimate news it’s front-page headlines.

    All that matters is who the target is… hmm something like who/whom I believe.

  35. @JimDandy

    Ha ha ha! Oh, My God, hang your head in shame, NYT, you pathetic, race-hustling charlatans.

    The NYT propagandists are incapable of shame, that’s the problem. It’s like expecting Goebbels to feel bad because he stretched the truth.

    They ran a screaming headline that the guy said the magic “Trump words,” and then admitted in the second to last sentence that he didn’t really. But the very last sentence is the fake news coup de grace: “In her Facebook video and on Twitter, however, she recounted that was what he had said.”

    In other words, “once you lied about it, Erica, there are no take backs, we get to run with it even if we all know it’s not true.”

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
  36. PSR says:

    Steve I do wish you would stop following/excerpting the NYT. It has not been a purveyor of news for several years. It is nothing but an anti-white, leftist, racist propaganda organ of the Democrat party. You continue to critique its content as though it is a legitimate news source. It is not.

  37. Ms. Thomas said: “I don’t want to say he said, ‘Go back to your country,’ or ‘Go back to where you came from.’ But he was making those types of references is what I remember.”

    Someone may have pointed out to her the possibility of camera-phone recording.

  38. @Jonathan Mason

    Often stories were cut off before the whole story was told, if there was not enough space, so the final paragraphs were not always printed.

    Well, the NYT always has the option of fixing the headline in its digital edition. What are the odds that happens?

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  39. @PSR

    Perhaps if you send him a large donation he will use other sources of modern idiocy.

  40. @Patrick in SC

    A dispute between the perpetually aggrieved and the terminally brain dead as reported by Pravda USA.

    • Agree: bomag
  41. Anonymous[402] • Disclaimer says:

    That’s why the NYT should be called The Backward.

  42. Anonymous[210] • Disclaimer says:

    Funny, it doesn’t seem to bother her to be on her feet when she has a megaphone in her hand.

    I guess we’ll just have to name a major street in every city after her now or we’ll never hear the end of it.

  43. @Mr. Anon

    OK, Mr. Anon, that’s crossing the line there, with those separate check-out lines. Even I’m triggered now, and I’m no Cuban. Next thing, you’ll be telling me the Whites and the Coloreds should have separate wash cycles.

  44. Here’s the synopsis for Animal Farm: The New Migration.

    In this updated version of George Orwell’s classic, farms are well managed. In fact, they are profitable and efficient, and farming society is polite, Christian and good.

    But over time, the number of animals on farms starts to increase beyond expectations. Wild animals, previously afraid of farms, become emboldened, and take up residence with domesticated stock.

    As farmers struggle to feed rising numbers of animals, and farms fall into disrepair, tensions between domesticated and feral animals intensify. Seeking to take control of diminishing resources, animals split into numerous factions. Eventually, when farmer numbers dwindle and the animals themselves assume command, a civil war breaks out. Farmers who support animals join with them, and eventually drive off the other humans, only to die out rapidly for lack of survival skills.

    On the new farms, dogs devour pigs, horses kill cows, and cats and fowls run amok. All is chaos. With no productive farmers to feed or care for them, the animals eventually revert to their feral roots, with only the strongest surviving. Numbers decline precipitously.

    Within three generations, not a single animal remembers the farmers at all. Young animals sometimes ask their parents about strange structures in the flat lands, but even the oldest and wisest have no clue as to what they might be. Eventually, these box-like mounds take on religious significance, and are worshiped as earth wombs from which all animals originated.

    And then one day farmers return…

  45. @Anonymous

    Could “line chiseling” mean “queue jumping”? — that is, leaving a line of people who are waiting to be served, to be served quicker, like leaving an ordinary supermarket checkout line to join a “10 items or fewer” line.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  46. George says:

    If he was not an employee of the store he should not have gotten involved in enforcing store policies.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @MarkU
    , @lysias
  47. @JerryC

    The idea that Cubans can’t be racist is…intriguing

    I have had the privilege (and in a few cases, the curse) to travel in and live in around 25 countries in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. My limited experience has lead me to believe that – to paraphrase that Ray-ciss Winston Churchill – the US is the most Ray-ciss country in the world, except for all the other countries.

  48. @JerryC

    The idea that Cubans can’t be racist is…intriguing.

    Or black. Several mulattoes are said to have slipped into the pre-Jackie major leagues as “Cubans”.

    Anybody know if SABR is on this? Or do they have a narrative, too?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  49. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)

    Could “line chiseling” mean “queue jumping”?

    american “line”=british “queue”

    A good excuse to listen to some Britishism:

    Amazing to think of all this sheer Englishness coming out of someone who came out of someone who came out of….Akron, Ohio??

  50. 85sters don’t fit in a state
    Where respect for the rules is innate.
    If perchance they’re called out
    On the rules that they flout
    They are eager to shout about “hate”.

  51. El Dato says:

    That picture demands “Is everyone looking at me? Good!” memetic enhancement.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  52. She’s such a precious little flower.

    Specifically, Erica thomae, or flypaper heath.

    BTW, what are the odds of a random encounter like this happening between an Eric and an Erica?

  53. @anon

    it´s nasty to say something like that to a women who is pregnant in ninth month.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  54. “Eric Sparkes” is not a very Cuban-sounding name and he looks pretty damn white.

    Certain alt-righters/White Nationalists claim that Jews will identify as white or non-white, whichever is more advantageous at that moment. Do they have the complaint about Cubans?

    Meanwhile Ms. Thomas has a normal English name which happens to be the feminine form of the name of her antagonist, not Lakeisha or Shaniqua.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anonymous
  55. guest says:
    @Anonymous

    Assuming we know what “line” means, that just leaves “chiseling.” Which means cheating. So line-cheating. Which means taking advantage of others for personal gain with regard to lines, or somehow practicing trickery.

  56. guest says:
    @Neil Templeton

    There was a movie called Super a few years back, about a vigilante who went around threatening people with a pipe wrench. Witnessing a man cut in line at a movie theater, he sprang to action and caved this fellow’s skull in. That we’ll call the extreme right of anti-line-chiseling.

    The extreme pro-chiseling left would of course be zombie hordes of looters.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  57. Anon[294] • Disclaimer says:

    Let me be the first to broach the possibility that Erica is not pregnant.

    Careful review of her photos over the past several years show no difference in her belly size from month to month, year to year.

    This is weird:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/21/man-denies-telling-us-politician-erica-thomas-go-back-where-you-came-from

    It might be a mistake. If not, it’s funny:

    A man has admitted cursing at a pregnant black Georgia lawmaker for taking too many items into a supermarket express lane but denies telling her “go back where you came from.”

    Eric Sparkes showed up during a television interview with Republican state representative from Georgia, Erica Thomas, on Saturday, outside the Atlanta-area Publix store where the incident allegedly occurred, the station reported.

    Sparkes denied making any racially charged comment, saying “I am Cuban”. Thomas confronted Sparkes in front of reporters and said he had “degraded and berated” her.
    :
    :
    Sparkes said he was a Democrat and was being unjustly attacked for political purposes.

    Wikipedia says she’s a Democrat. The Georgia state page says she’s a Democrat.

    Maybe the Guardian just assumed she was a Republican when she turned out to be lying SOB.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  58. El Dato says:
    @Erik Sieven

    It’s the Racist Lords Who Say “Ni”.

  59. El Dato says:

    In soviet Russia, a reporter from Pravda and a guy from the KGB approach you at the airport check-in and ask you whether you are a rootless cosmopolitan.

    In tweeter USA, a reporter frpm the NYT and a big blinged-out woman of color with a bullhorn approach you at the supermarket check-out and ask you whether you are a racist.

  60. @George

    If he was not an employee of the store he should not have gotten involved in enforcing store policies.

    Even when he’s been cheated? Talk about “cuck”.

  61. Anon[294] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    “Eric Sparkes” is not a very Cuban-sounding name and he looks pretty damn white.

    He probably is white (i.e., mostly or fully of European origin). A lot of Cubans are white, just as a lot of Mexicans and Brazilians are white.

    “Hispanic” includes the root word for “Spain.” “Latino” is from “Latin,” related to countries descended from the Roman Empire. These are all ethnicities, not races. There are three races involved in Latin American countries: Europeans from Spain and environs; blacks from Africa; and indiginous Americans. Everyone is one of those or a mix of two or three.

    Although a lack of European women caused early explorers and European settlers to take non-white wives, in general people tend toward endogamy and assortative mating, so a relatively pure white segment of Latin American populations has persisted to this day. They tend to run things and own things.

    Sparkes said during the confrontation outside of the Publix in front of news cameras that he is Cuban, using that as part of his claim that he would not tell Thomas to “go back.” He has posted previously on Facebook about his Cuban heritage and growing up in a family where some relatives only spoke Spanish.

    According to his Facebook page, Sparkes is originally from Newark, Delaware. He is a graduate of Florida International University and he spent several years living in Miami. He has lived in Georgia since 2005, spending time in Norcross, Atlanta and now Mableton, where the confrontation with Thomas occurred.

    https://heavy.com/news/2019/07/eric-sparkes/

  62. No Steve, they don’t feel a “responsibility”.

  63. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Or black. Several mulattoes are said to have slipped into the pre-Jackie major leagues as “Cubans”

    Did Babe Ruth have African ancestry?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Kyle
  64. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ripple Earthdevil

    “Eric Sparkes” is not a very Cuban-sounding name and he looks pretty damn white.

    Certain alt-righters/White Nationalists claim that Jews will identify as white or non-white, whichever is more advantageous at that moment. Do they have the complaint about Cubans?

    Some people from Cuba are of Jewish descent.

  65. You might think that in an NYT article dated Sunday, July 21, the day after the story broke nationally, paragraph 14 should have been the lead: the black woman Democratic politician is now walking back her central claim that #ExpressLaneEric told her to “go back where you came from.”

    No, sadly, I would have no expectation whatsoever that they would lead with the truth.

  66. @Anonymous

    Not that anybody can tell, although Ruth, Warren Harding, and Orson Welles looked like they might have some small fraction of black ancestry.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Ganderson
  67. Anonymous[413] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Not that anybody can tell, although Ruth, Warren Harding, and Orson Welles looked like they might have some small fraction of black ancestry.

    With 23andMe and other DNA testing companies, I wonder if any of his descendants have had reports done.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  68. MarkU says:
    @George

    If he was not an employee of the store he should not have gotten involved in enforcing store policies.

    While at an express checkout in a supermarket in the UK, I complained that the person who was served prior to me had about 40 items in their trolley. The checkout lady responded that they weren’t even allowed to mention the 10 item limit to offending customers on pain of disciplinary action. The manager later informed me that it wasn’t company policy to even attempt to enforce the limit for fear of offending customers. Eventually, thanks to assholes like Erica Thomas, the express checkout lines had to be abolished altogether.

    • Replies: @Pretzel Yardstick
    , @Jack D
  69. Ed says:

    This is what he votes for, what do I care?

  70. @Anonymous

    Orson Welles’ daughter Beatrice is quite blonde, but has a slightly wider nose than is common among blondes.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @anon
  71. @Jim Christian

    Washington’s paper of record, Washington Post, ought to have as their slogan “Intelligence Dies Here”.

    LOL.

    WaPo is an interesting case. The top 5 front-page articles are full of those kinds of commenters, but if you dig a little deeper, you occasionally see some insightful stuff. George Will gets some decent commenters, for example.

  72. Is The Beatles song “Get Back”, now considered evil also? Is it a Hate Crime to play it?

  73. @CCZ

    Theyre psychopathic liars. This is a pig,crying about how she’s soooo hurt. Yes,she should go back. And take Ricky Ricardo with her.

  74. Ganderson says:
    @Steve Sailer

    According to Robert Creamer, Ruth was constantly chirped about his being part black. One of his nicknames (pretty sure not called it to his face ) was “Nig”.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  75. @Hypnotoad666

    On
    Goebbels stretching the truth, we quote Ellul, via Moldbug:

    “In propaganda, truth pays off”—this formula has been increasingly accepted. Lenin proclaimed it. And alongside Hitler’s statement on lying one must place Goebbels’ insistence that facts to be disseminated must be accurate.(*)

    Read it here: https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2013/03/jacques-ellul-on-demand-for-propaganda/

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  76. @Jim Christian

    “The comments have to be political plants.”

    People go along with the powerful, either out of true faith, a sense of belonging, or fear.

  77. @Achmed E. Newman

    Ha! Years ago, a (white) Cuban, introduced me to the term Mexican’t in contempt of mestizos‘ sloth and shiftlessness (at the time I literally fell over laughing because of its novelty to me and the hilarious story to which it was the punchline).

    That same person, of course, is to all outward appearances (for anyone who is not an intimate acquaintance) a raging leftist who is all about “social justice” [sic] and never misses a chance to exploit her Pokemon points as a “Hispanic female.” Privately, she finds the whole thing hilarious (“Tee hee! They have to give me the job because I will make them seem more Diverse!”)

    Scratch the surface of an awful lot of these “But I’m not a bigot; why, I’m a ______ myself!” types and you will more often find beneath a conniving cynic than you will a true believer.

  78. @Hypnotoad666

    Well, the NYT always has the option of fixing the headline in its digital edition. What are the odds that happens?

    I do not know anything about the internal workings of the New York Times, but at the paper I worked at, I was actually the person who was responsible for uploading the stories to the digital edition of the paper on the days that I was working. (This was around 2000, so digital newspapers were a pretty new thing.)

    Getting the stories to upload correctly into their slots in the template was quite enough work and there was never any thought of further copy editing at that stage, besides which I was working after midnight at this point and just wanting to get the job finished and go home.

    People forget that producing a newspaper is just a job.

  79. @Mr. Anon

    Perhaps unpleasant situations such as this one could be solved with a simple fix: separate (but equal) checkout lines for black and white people.

    I think this would cause problems for mixed families, same as passport control where some members are US citizens and others are “aliens”.

    However there should be a separate supermarket checkout line for smokers, because who wants to stand next to someone exuding a stench of tobacco or put up with their coughing? They are in violation of the Clean Indoor Air Act just by existing.

    There is already a precedent with smoking and no smoking rooms in motels, so it appears that smokers are not a qualified protected minority.

    All races can unite to put smokers in their place.

    In fact, they should be assigned their very own state, some place like North Carolina or Virginia, where they can all go and live together on a reservation and have their own health care system financed by tobacco and alcohol taxes. They can also have their own lines at passport control and their own buses and planes.

    • Replies: @jim jones
  80. @CCZ

    If a service is designated for use by those purchasing no more than ten items, and a person uses that service to purchase more than ten items, the uncontested facts provide prima facie evidence that person is indeed lazy, ignorant, or both.

    No facts are being offered to controvert that evidence. Pregnancy mitigates things, but, strictly speaking, does not excuse the bahaviour (it is not, after all, a service designated for those purchasing no more than ten items or pregnant women, and the store’s managers certainly are aware of pregnancy and could – presumably would – have so designated the service had they wished).

    Notice the instant reframing with no acknowledgement of the actual assertion’s truth (assuming facts as the plaintiff presents them), even in passing (“I was technically misusing the service, but I felt the reaction was disproportionate to my own misconduct…”).

    Does Señor Eric de Cuba have “hate in his heart?” Maybe. Who knows? It’s in fact unknowable, and irrelevant to any rational assessment of the situation. But it is the entire focus of the Negress.

    Did the Negress disregard posted rules, thereby exhibiting behaviour any reasonable person can infer to be lazy, ignorant, or both? Indubitably, by her own admission, she did.

    If I catch you eating my lunch out of the office’s refrigerator, and I object to the theft, it is no answer to protest that you are hurt by how cruel I am to call you a thief or a glutton. (Cf. “The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you.”)

    If you behave ignorantly and lazily, and another admonishes you for it, the thing to do is to stop being ignorant and lazy, not to start in about the observer’s allegedly hateful heart. Human adults, and human children more than about ten years old (arguably younger) all know this; only the wicked and the savage would dispute it.

    By the way, why must hate always be in the accused’s heart? It seems presumptuous to assume it is there. Perhaps Señor Eric de Cuba’s hatred resides in, say, his left clavicle, or maybe his kidneys; maybe even a toenail. We don’t know! Let’s not make cardionormative assumptions rooted in bigotry and circulatory privilege! Why, maybe, in fact, any hatred the man has identifies as love, or perhaps he is a-emotional. Has anyone even considered these possibilities?!

  81. Bruno says:

    It’s exactly the same in France. Same redaction technique apply.

    With the rules of always speaking of the wrongdoer when is white and of the victim when she is an ethnic and hiding the facts when it’s the opposite (main cases).

    Sometimes it’s involuntarily «  funny » when both victims are ethnic and the murdering ethnic is also ethnic. Because it implies that French people used machete to amputate Sri Lankan or through acid to a bride to honour blood .

  82. The anti-White rumpswab called the New York Times is the enemy of the American people.

    The New York Times must be destroyed or co-opted by White Core American Patriots.

    My modest proposal that some weaklings would consider radical would be to remove the current controllers of the New York Times and replace them with executives more favorably amenable to the interests of White Core America.

    You could give Carlos Slim and the Sulzbergers a thousandth of a penny per share for their troubles and then use the media organs of the New York Times to push pro-White propaganda.

    Tweet from 2015:

  83. @Achmed E. Newman

    he also said “im not white, im cuban” at one point. meanwhile he is clearly 100% european descent.

  84. Jon Jones says:

    The New York Times’ motto: “All The News That Fits Our Agenda.”

  85. Mr. Anon says:

    Oh, the hate is real, all right.

  86. lysias says:
    @George

    Line jumpers rob other customers of time, so the others have every right to complain. Especially since store policy so often seems to be for cashiers not to enforce the rule.

  87. @Name Withheld

    Ilhan from Somalia had herself a husband,
    Then she went and got another.
    Swept under the rug because she was a Muslim:
    The second husband was her brother.

    Go back
    Go back
    Go back to where you once belonged

  88. [5] Ms. Thomas had been scared to leave the store because she thought the man was going to follow her or “take out a gun,” she said. “You just never know.”

    Some blacks just love to gets themselves riled up over nothing.
    For example, anything that looks vaguely like a noose gives them an excuse.

    On July 12 at Stanford, someone found a 3-foot rope that really did look like a noose hanging from a bush:

    ‘I was terrified for my life’: Sick photo rocks university students

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/i-was-terrified-for-my-life-sick-photo-rocks-university-students-233025569.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJI3f30DLCHLuHESv3iYwrA5CtuKUM7X7ZGN-BtTV2A6ct9v2D20YQgDeFLenkYkSzdn55J7WxCKVM0NPGm6I59jLmxH9Nl6LDRYDAMAa7zSPByRc6GIdRpLB2dfPhPLEsZu-Sk9IezgE82X3A-v7apxW5mvavA_xEWQ_TsjiWHI

    There’s a good chance it was the usual hate hoax, but even if it wasn’t, it still did not represent any kind of physical threat. It was a great excuse to get riled up, though.

    FROM ARTICLE:

    “My immediate thought was nothing but fear because I’d never seen a noose,” Perkins told NBC Bay Area. “I was just distraught.”

    She believes that the noose, which the university said, “has no place on our campus,” was a message for the minority students she is advising.

    Perkins and her colleagues feel as if the issue has been “swept under the rug.”

    “I was terrified for my life,” a program assistant, who wished not to be identified, also told the station. “I called my mum, and she was ready to put me on a plane back home. You don’t know who is hanging around and what their actions might be, and we had the most minorities of all the summer camps.”

    A statement provided to Yahoo Lifestyle by Stanford University read, in part: “The incident is currently under investigation as a suspicious circumstance, but if additional evidence comes to light, it may be re-classified as a hate crime.

    “While we await further conclusions from the investigation, we feel it is important to state that a noose is recognised as a symbol of violence and racism directed against African American peoples. Such a symbol has no place on our campus. Our community values affirm the dignity of all peoples and call upon us to strive for a just community in which discrimination and hate have no presence.”

    Stanford’s Acts of Intolerance office, which addresses “situations involving acts of intolerance reported by campus community members,” has also been notified.

    • Replies: @peterike
  89. I can’t say that I find Mx. Thomas’ performance very compelling. I mean, where’s the noose?

  90. Lurker says:
    @El Dato

    She’s probably wondering if this is too little, too late to be traded up into a 2020 run for the White House.

  91. Lurker says:
    @guest

    Lower pic – I like the way you can just make out the word ‘celebration’ over the door.

  92. Jack D says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Wouldn’t it be amazing if instead of having to speculate about racial heritage based on nose shape, there was some scientific test that could determine this with a high degree of certainty?

    Once the African % gets down to around 1/8 or below, it often becomes completely invisible – this is how some mixed race people were able to “cross the color line” to begin with. OTOH, there are people with broad noses and no African heritage. Going by things like nose shape gets you many false positives and false negatives – it’s probably no better than random guessing.

  93. @Paul

    Asked by the television station if Mr. Sparkes had told her “go back where you came from,” Ms. Thomas said: “I don’t want to say he said, ‘Go back to your country,’ or ‘Go back to where you came from.’ But he was making those types of references is what I remember.” In her Facebook video and on Twitter, however, she recounted that was what he had said.

    At least she is now admitting to being a liar.

    Yeah, but she doesn’t understand it so she feels no shame (assuming she’s capable of such). In her mind she’s slipped out of the trap and settled on the position that the Express Line Policeman both did say “go back” but didn’t say “go back” and it all makes sense because she’s expressing herself very forcefully and emotionally against racism.

    My experience is that a lot of blacks find the neutral enforcement of basic social rules to be an act of “picking on” them, and especially if the enforcers of the rules are not themselves black they can get quite heated over nothing. She probably doesn’t see any contradiction between what she said about what the man said and what the man said – it doesn’t really matter what he said because he singled her out for confrontation and the rules in her view were probably just a pretext. I mean, sure it’s the rule and all, but she doesn’t have to follow it.

    • Agree: 95Theses
  94. jim jones says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    You appear to be a fanatic, my motto is live and let live

  95. Jack D says:
    @JerryC

    In Mr. Sparkes’s defense, I don’t think we was saying that Cubans can’t be raycis. He was saying that as a Cuban immigrant (or descendant thereof) he was unlikely to tell a black person “go back where you came from”, since as the more recent immigrant he was himself more vulnerable to that suggestion than any American black. On the “people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones” principle.

    • Agree: Jonathan Mason
  96. Jack D says:
    @Moses

    No the most important thing is that it fits the Narrative and in this case the Narrative that “Trump is a Racist and Must be Destroyed”. (BTW, you ain’t seen nothing yet – they are going to turn the volume up to 11 by the time we get to 11/2020). Two weeks ago, before Trump made his own “go back” pronouncement, this story could not have achieved traction. But, now that the cat is out of the bag, we can expect many people to suddenly report that they too have been told to “go back” by horrible white men.

    I suppose that accusations that comply with the Narrative have to meet some MINIMUM threshold of plausibility (e.g “Trump raped me in the dressing room of Bergdorf Goodman” meets the test but “Trump raped me on his spaceship” doesn’t) but that threshold is very very low. The Jackie story of being raped in the dark amid broken glass did not meet even a very low standard of credibility but it was accepted nevertheless because it fit the Narrative so well. Likewise, the story of Dr. Professor Blasey-Ford wasn’t really physically plausible in “who-what-when-where” terms but it was too good not to be believed. I suppose that the accusations against the victims of the Stalinist Purges (“You are an American/German spy”) COULD HAVE been true, but truth was not really the salient element in such accusations.

  97. @MarkU

    The manager later informed me that it wasn’t company policy to even attempt to enforce the limit for fear of offending customers.

    Except that, obviously, the policy offends inconvenienced customers who are ticked off when another customer violates the rules. So the supermarket is in effect choosing which customer to offend.

    Why does the store make this choice? Two possible reasons (both could be true):

    1. The complainant is more likely to be a traditional (i.e., white) British person who abhors queue jumping; the complainee more likely to be a Person of Color. POCs must never be offended or Bad Publicity might ensue.

    2. The practical reality is that even if the rule violator is prevented from enjoying the fruits of his “mistake” there will probably be an argument or delay, wasting more time than if the violation is just accepted.

    Such are the consequences when a society forgets the importance of unwritten, non-legal standards of conduct and replaces them with who-can-get-away-with-what.

  98. @CCZ

    Wow, she may want to kill her baby at any point in the 9 month process and nobody should be able to tell her otherwise.

  99. @the one they call Desanex

    AOC is smart, you oughta get to know ’er.
    “I can solve global warming,” she tells us.
    “The temperature would automatically get lower
    If we switch from Fahrenheit to Celsius.”

    Go back
    Go back
    Go back to where you once belonged

  100. anon[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    If Ruth had German ancestry he may have been of the broad-faced, broad-nosed Schwarzenegger facial characteristics.

  101. @Ganderson

    According to Robert Creamer, Ruth was constantly chirped about his being part black. One of his nicknames (pretty sure not called it to his face ) was “Nig”.

    Nig Cuppy was all German, like Ruth. (He was born Koppe.) White players with darker complexions like Cuppy’s, or other features that looked coincidentally African– wide nose, thick lips– often got that tag, or “Chief” or some other Indian moniker.

    Most of them wouldn’t have had a drop of such blood. A lot of the Indian-descent stories in American families are from some black-haired, black-eyed white ancestor everyone else called “Chief”.

    https://baseball.fandom.com/wiki/Nig_Cuppy

  102. peterike says:
    @Calvin X Hobbes

    Interesting that Yahoo News Australia seems to not allow any comments, while the Yahoo news in the U.S. is nearly the last mainstream outlet that allows nearly unfettered comments.

  103. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    You’re wrong and the Guardian is wrong. She’s a black and a Democrat and she’s pregnant. None of which is really relevant to whether she had the right to cut into the express line. None of these things are supposed to give you the right to decide for yourself which rules and law you want to follow or grant you immunity when other criticize or confront you for breaking those rules.

    As others have pointed out, many of the incidents where blacks get upset (and sometimes wind up getting shot by police) stem from a feeling by blacks that, perhaps due to their recent suffering or their past lives as kangs in Africa, they are entitled to a pass on the rules that are applicable to other people as a form of self-reparations, often combined with a paranoid belief that if a white person dares to call them on their rule or law breaking (which they have rationalized to themselves already), the white person is confronting them “because they are black”. This is a double-whammy of delusion – imagining for themselves privileges that they don’t (yet) possess and imagining that anyone who questions them is acting from racist motives. Rarely can anything good come out of such delusions (although lots bad can, especially when it is supported by other blacks and Leftist whites).

    When someone refuses to give them that pass, they get angry and upset and often the situation escalates from there. For example, the Gentle Giant of Ferguson believed that he was entitled to free cigarillos and then thought that he was entitled to walk in the road and not on the sidewalk. Trayvon Martin thought that he was immune from being asked questions by pesky Citizen’s Watch crackers. Etc.

    This has happened in other societies – there were some incidents in Japan in the early period when Westerners were first allowed in – the Westerner didn’t understand that he was supposed to step aside for samurai and the samurai would get angry and kill the insufficiently deferential white guy. The underlying problem (from the black POV) is that not all white people in America have been sufficiently trained to accept the privileges that blacks confer on themselves and it is the job of black Americans such as Tennessee Coates to instruct white Americans on properly deferential behavior toward blacks. Anyone who refuses to get with the program outs himself as a racist. From a practical (not ethical) POV, this is absolutely the right way to go about it IF you have the power to make it stick. That’s the question that’s up for grabs right now.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    , @Moses
  104. @Jack D

    I suppose that accusations that comply with the Narrative have to meet some MINIMUM threshold of plausibility (e.g “Trump raped me in the dressing room of Bergdorf Goodman” meets the test but “Trump raped me on his spaceship” doesn’t) but that threshold is very very low.

    That minimum is so low as to be negligible – of course the “spaceship” accusation would be dismissed but it wouldn’t be publicized in order to be dismissed.

    Also, I think you’re forgetting that the new formulation is that the lack of evidence is a feature – Blasey-Ford couldn’t place the party by place or date, and the other purported attendees not only don’t recall the party but didn’t recall ever meeting every other attendee of the party. Kav not only couldn’t prove he wasn’t there (because he was somewhere else on a specific date), but your lack of credulity is deemed a sin, something that marks you as a “rape apologist” and quite possibly a secret sex assault perpetrator.

  105. Jack D says:
    @MarkU

    Why we can’t have nice things.

    Out in the Amish country a little over 1 hr. west of the ghettos of Philadelphia, it’s not uncommon to see produce stands operating on the honor system. There is a bunch of produce or fruit laid out with prices and a box with a slot in it and you are supposed to calculate the cost of what you take and deposit it in the box. (The box BTW is usually locked and attached to the structure – the Amish may be trusting but they’re not stupid, although the bike thieves of W. Philly would have that box open in 5 seconds flat). This must work well enough or they wouldn’t do it (not that there doesn’t have to be zero shrinkage – the theft just has to be less per hour than the cost of having a human man the stand and less than the marginal cost of the vegetables). Probably there are some people who don’t have exact change and so put MORE in the box than the cost of their purchases, so this must offset somewhat.

    How many “dead cats” (to coin a phrase) from low trust societies need to be thrown into this well before it is poisoned and the farmer gives up and no one gets to shop this way?

    • Replies: @CCZ
  106. Walsh2 says:
    @Patrick in SC

    I’m sure she’s a colossal pain in the ass but yeah, he deserved it.

    1) He wasn’t inconvenienced in the least. He stated there were empty lines and in fact, got out of the store first and went back to bitch about her having too many items.

    2) Assume for sake of argument there weren’t any empty lines and he had to wait behind her – how much of an extra wait – 2 minutes, 3 minutes tops. Big freaking deal.

    There are two kinds of people in the world – people who want to be left the fuck alone and people who won’t leave people who want to be left the fuck alone. . . alone.

    I’m in the first camp and would hazard a guess that most readers on this are as well. Both the jerks in this “news story” are the kind of people in the second camp – people who wont leave people who want to be left the fuck alone. . . . alone, i.e. progressive democrats.

    • Agree: JMcG
  107. CCZ says:
    @Jack D

    “Probably there are some people who don’t have exact change and so put MORE in the box than the cost of their purchases,”

    Honor System Farm Stands

    Many roadside farm stands in the U.S. are unstaffed. They work on the honor system: take what you want, and pay what you owe.

    And today at his farm stand, Cochran says, just as at the donut shop years ago, most customers leave more money than they owe.

    That doesn’t surprise social psychologist Michael Cunningham of the University of Louisville who has used “trust games” to investigate what spurs good and bad behavior for the last 25 years. For many people, Cunningham says, trust seems to be at least as strong a motivator as guilt. He thinks he knows why.

    “When you sell me something I want and trust me to pay you even when you’re not looking, you’ve made my life good in two ways,” Cunningham tells The Salt. “I get something delicious, and I also get a good feeling about myself. Both of those things make me feel good about the world­ that I’m in a good place. And I also see you as a contributor to that good ­ as somebody I want to reward. It’s a win win.”

    I like systems that leverage personal moral codes for security. But I’ll bet that the pay boxes are bolted to the tables. It’s one thing for someone to take produce without paying. It’s quite another for him to take the entire day’s receipts.

    https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/06/honor_system_fa.html

  108. @TomSchmidt

    Good article on Propaganda 101. Here’s another quote that is especially on the mark regarding Steve’s analysis of the “upside down” NYT writing style:

    How can we explain this contradiction? It seems that in propaganda we must make a radical distinction between a fact on the one hand and intentions or interpretations on the other; in brief, between the material and moral elements. The truth that pays off is in the realm of facts. The necessary falsehoods, which also pay off, are in the realm of intentions and interpretations. https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2013/03/jacques-ellul-on-demand-for-propaganda/

    Consistent with this philosophy, NYT articles are practically devoid of actual “facts” — i.e., the “Five W’s” which could be objectively falsified.

    Instead, the NYT starts with an unverifiable hearsay/opinion statement (in this case, Express Line Erica’s claim that she was told to “go back where she came from”). They then spend the remaining 90% of the article telling you what “intentions and interpretations” you are supposed to take away (it’s a “racist” trope, stoked by Trump, rising tide of white supremacy, blah, blah, blah).

    You could probably create a pretty good “propaganda index” by simply measuring an article’s ratio of verifiable facts to “intentions and interpretations.”

  109. Kyle says:

    This is the most boomerific story since covington.

  110. CCZ says:
    @Scott X

    Press Conference, YES!!

    • Replies: @Anon7
  111. @Jack D

    None of which is really relevant to whether she had the right to cut into the express line.

    Now that you mention it, “cutting in line” seems to be a consistent progressive value.

    Erica gets “cuts” in the express line; “undocumented immigrants” get “cuts” in the legal immigration process; non-Asian minorities get “cuts” in the Harvard admission process.

    It’s a Cut Culture.

  112. Kyle says:
    @Anonymous

    Babe Ruth is extremely german looking.

  113. Anon7 says:
    @CCZ

    For now, it’s enough to tolerate it when privileged persons behave badly, while remaining silent. Soon, though, we will be required to express our love and admiration when presented with queue-cutting or other obnoxious behavior.

    “Huzzah! Let us celebrate her personal style in defying the patriarchy’s command that this line is for ten items or less! Huzzah!”

    In extreme cases, legacy Americans should toss their caps in the air while shouting in the prescribed manner.

  114. Bubba says:
    @Hail

    Well, at least it didn’t involve chicken or she might have started a brawl like in this news story…

    http://www.fox13news.com/amp/news/local-news/fight-breaks-out-in-tampa-publix-deli

  115. @newrouter

    my husband and I’s decision

    Hate to have to inform you of this, but out here in the sticks where townships and even some counties are well over 90% white and produce stands work just fine on the honor system, the simplest grammar goes out the window when “and” is added to a sentence. So it ain’t just a black thang.

    You want to take these people to the nearest blackboard to teach them the basics, but only after scraping it with your nails to illustrate the effect it has on you.

    I know Steven Pinker disagrees and defends this locution, but screw he and they who take him seriously.

  116. @the one they call Desanex

    “Get Back” (No Pakistanis)

    Ronan Relimun, was a Puatarican, working in another world.
    Want it thrown around, Se patiha mohican, livin’ in the USA.

    Get back, get back, get back to where you once belonged.

    Pretty Ado Lamb, was a pakistani, living in another world,
    Want it thrown around, don’t dig no pakistanis, taking all the people jobs.

    So get back, get back, get back to where you once belonged.

    Meanwhile back at home there’s nineteen Pakistanis,
    Living in a council flat
    Candidate for Labour tells them what the plan is,
    Then he tells them where its at

    The Beatles~ No Pakistanis

  117. @the one they call Desanex


    Sung to the tune of “Sandy” (Ronny and the Daytonas):

    Hey girl, with sunlight on your gums
    Whoa-wo-wo
    Congresswomen shouldn’t be so dumb
    Whoa-wo-wo

    Please go back Sandy
    Puerto Rico will still be there
    Waiting for you

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Mike_from_SGV
  118. @the one they call Desanex

    Rashida left a life of poverty and squalor
    Lookin’ for some grass that’s greener.
    Rashida left behind the mean streets of Ramallah
    For Detroit, where the streets are meaner.

    Go back
    Go back
    Go back to where you once belonged

    Go back, Rashida!

  119. Dr. Doom says:

    This s a clear cut case of Mathematical Privilege, or numerical racism.

    Don’t forget the three r’s. Reading, rithmetic and racism.

  120. @Scott X

    I mentioned the movie “The Villian”, which I said had Kirk Douglas, Ann-Margret and Arnold Schwarzenegger in it.

    Wow, that takes me back a few years. I saw that movie at the cinema with my parents (at the old Saratoga 6, which was basically across the street from the old Century 25 Cinedome, where Spielberg used to ride his beek to see movies…I rode my bike there a time or two as well).

  121. @PSR

    It is a primary control channel for the NPCs, so it’s important to stay abreast of its diktats.

  122. Here’s my idea.

    If you call someone a racist, you are a hater. Straight up.

    If you call someone a hater, you are a racist. Straight up.

    Any questions.

  123. CCZ says:

    • LOL: Cortes
  124. AnonAnon says:

    Is this some stupid Dem setup to push the “go back” issue? What middle aged man in a grocery store bothers to go back to admonish a much larger (compared to him) black woman about having too many items? Most men, especially ones who have been married and know better, go out of their way not to piss off strange women they encounter in public because it tends not to end well for them. And who opens their mouth to a pregnant woman, though I concede it may not have been easy to tell in her case. Is this man gay? He lives in the Atlanta area so he must be familiar with the typical angry black woman. He said he was able to check out ahead of her in an empty line so why did he even bother? This whole situation is strange. If it isn’t a setup he either has anger issues, is a racist, or is a misogynistic gay guy. I don’t see a normal person bothering to open up this can of worms, particularly when, per his own words, there were three empty check out lines. I’m glad he denied he was white and clarified he was a Democrat, he makes white people look bad.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  125. Cortes says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    My favourite headline was in the Philadelphia Inquirer, reporting on the investigation into the mislabelling (for cosmetic rather than nefarious reasons) of skull samples sent to labs by an ENT specialist…

    “EARS FOUND IN PROBE ON HEADS”

  126. anon[192] • Disclaimer says:
    @newrouter

    I saw video of the interview the pair did outside the Publix.

    According to the Heavy link below, he claimed/admitted/conceded that he called her a “little, selfish b-i-t-c-h”. She was present and didn’t object. Presumably the word was spelled out solely for tv interview purposes. Anyway, guess that makes me partially incorrect.

    here: https://heavy.com/news/2019/07/eric-sparkes/

  127. Anonymous[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnonAnon

    Most men, especially ones who have been married and know better, go out of their way not to piss off strange women they encounter in public because it tends not to end well for them.

    What does having been married got to do with any of this?

  128. The supermarket checkout line: “Abandon all hope ye who are about to enter.”

    The elderly woman who digs deep into her purse for exact change (some dollars and ninety-nine cents).

    The school mom who uses her debit card for a $3.47 purchase.

    The meth head who splits his $11.68, total amount into three, separate, credit charge transactions (one was denied).

    The gabby checker who asks the life story of the person in front of you (who she saw last week).

    The idiot checker who calls for a price check on an fifty cent item (with five people in line).

    The sloth checker who is so slow she makes DMV bureaucrats look speedy.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Jack D
  129. Headline from a perhaps not-too-distant-future: “White Man Seen Entering Store”

    “This white guy, he just, like, walks right into the store. He didn’t tip his hat to us, or bow, and he certainly wasn’t covering his face as he should have been. He just strode right in and went about his shopping like nothing was wrong, completely oblivious to the pain and suffering his existence causes people of color!”

    • LOL: jim jones
  130. @Abolish_public_education

    Bill Gates once held up a line while digging through his pockets for an ice cream coupon.

  131. Jack D says:
    @Abolish_public_education

    The school mom who uses her debit card for a $3.47 purchase.

    What is her crime? Card is the fastest payment method – no counting of money or change.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    , @kaganovitch
  132. @Jim Christian

    She was exercising HER privilege with 23 items in the 10 item line. Fuck these White folks, they can’t say shit to ME. Privilege resides in her mind and she takes full advantage of it.

    Some of them will openly acknowledge this. A couple years ago a black woman acquaintance was recounting how she got away with some minor offense (I forget what exactly, but it was no more serious than abusing the express line) because “I guess nobody wanted to deal with another angry black woman.” Kind of jokingly I said “Black privilege?”. She replied “Yeah, we have it.”

  133. @Jack D

    What is her crime? Card is the fastest payment method – no counting of money or change.

    Too true. Used to be that the cashier had to whip out the little gizmo that did an impression of your credit card on multiple carbons, wait for approval and get your signature. In the era of high-speed (compared to dial-up) internet and Windows-based POS terminals, it’s the fastest form of payment.

    • Replies: @silviosilver
  134. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @the one they call Desanex

    back story: Bingenheimer recorded Ronnie & The Daytonas “Little GTO” using a guide vocal recorded by his friend Debbie Harry. Harry’s version, recorded with her sinuses all stopped up, got bootleggd as “The New York Blondes”. Bingenheimer re-recorded it with this band and several others over the years.

    Lead Vocals – Rodney Bingenheimer Guitar – Johnny Ramone Backing Vocals – Joey Ramone, The Honeys Bass – Dee Dee Ramone Drums – Marky Ramone

  135. Moses says:
    @Jack D

    (BTW, you ain’t seen nothing yet – they are going to turn the volume up to 11 by the time we get to 11/2020).

    Yes. And it’s going to get worse every year until America breaks up into separate racially-based nations.

    They will not stop. The cannot stop and hope to hold their coalition together.

    The left has the same relationship with KKKrazy Glue as an abuser does with heroin — the dose must be upped continually to get the same high until OD and death occur.

    Just a matter of time. Inevitable at this point given current trends.

  136. Moses says:
    @Jack D

    From a practical (not ethical) POV, this is absolutely the right way to go about it IF you have the power to make it stick. That’s the question that’s up for grabs right now.

    Insightful comment.

  137. @Patrick in SC

    Then he said, “I’m a Democrat and will vote Democrat for the rest of my life, so call me whatever you want to believe”, at which point I began to wish that the cullut lady had beaten the shit out of him.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  138. @Johann Ricke

    Used to be that the cashier had to whip out the little gizmo

    Is it just me or does ‘gizmo’ sound almost as old-fashioned as ‘doohickey’?

  139. @silviosilver

    I haven’t witnessed a newspaper coupon redemption for a long time.

    I don’t get upset when someone uses e-pay for a total of ~> $60. Who wants to watch completion of a transaction involving lots of large bills?

    But for a small total, e-pay can’t be faster than whipping out a five or a ten.

    Plus, the cashier already knows that the customer wants cash back.

    A cash-filled society is a civil society.

    EBT-pay is outrageous, regardless of the amount.

  140. @Jack D

    What is her crime? Card is the fastest payment method – no counting of money or change.

    Not actually so. We studied the matter thoroughly when setting up cafeteria payment structures. Cash is much faster than traditional pin cards. The only POS payment method that’s as fast or faster than cash, is contactless card w/o receipt.

  141. Anon[335] • Disclaimer says:

    Randy Soave over at that libertarian site he writes for points out something we all missed: When the Times article first went online it had a different title, specifically quoting “Go back to where you came from.” Then the title changed. I’m not sure if this means the backtracking news came in after the original article was published or not. In one instance they horribly misguided the piece, while in the other they hid the correction in the base of the pyramid, leaving the initial insinuations intact.

  142. Jack D says:
    @Twodees Partain

    This is like the joke/semi-true story that Ed Koch used to tell. A certain very liberal NYC judge was, in the midst of a trial of a mugger, himself mugged. He came into the courtroom a bit bandaged up and announced to the defendant, “The fact that I have personally been a victim of a crime will in no way influence any of my decisions from the bench.” Whereupon an old lady yelled from the back of the visitor’s gallery, “Well, then mug him again!”

    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
  143. You can’t win with people who are liars and were born with a chip on their shoulder. Stay away from, do not talk to. In my city , the markets have installed automated self checkout lines, which are too complicated for low-IQ chicks like this, so they stay out of my way.

  144. FLgeezer says:
    @Foreign Expert

    Perhaps not 9 months, but assuredly pregnant. Aren’t they all?

  145. @Jack D

    That’s a good one. Thanks for posting it.

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