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It’s considered in poor taste to notice the connection between the flow of people over the border and 21st Century California’s relatively low standard of living, but from the Los Angeles Times today, a story about the poverty in the middle of the suburban San Fernando Valley:

Hidden in L.A. suburbia, wrenching poverty preys on children and destroys dreams

By STEVE LOPEZ
NOV 25, 2018 | 5:00 AM

… School had been in session less than two months when Brenda Salgado and her kids packed and moved. It was mid-September and they’d already been in three places. First a motel, then a two-bedroom apartment stuffed with more than two dozen people, then one of the many discount lodges on a dreary stretch of Sepulveda Boulevard in North Hills.

… The $95 room had two beds, a dark rug, harsh light and the familiar, unnatural scent of motel sanitizing agents. There was no kitchen, no quiet corner for homework, no outdoor space. Anthony, 9, Jordan, 6, and Madelyn, 5, were dressed and ready for school at Telfair Elementary, six miles away in Pacoima. One-year-old Mayla, dark-haired and curious, sat upright on a bed and looked me over.

The most disturbing thing about the scene was that for the kids, this was no temporary setback. This was life, dragging belongings from one place to the next, tethered to problems they didn’t create. …

Los Angeles Unified, the second-largest public school system in the country, is more than a sprawling collection of campuses — it’s one of the nation’s largest depositories of child poverty. About 80% of the more than 600,000 students qualify for free or reduced-price meals. When I heard from Supt. Austin Beutner that nearly a quarter of the students at Telfair last year were classified as homeless, I began visiting the school and the neighborhood, hoping to give some human shape to the numbers.

You don’t see sprawling tent villages on the streets around Telfair, and there’s little of the squalor so starkly evident on skid row and elsewhere. Poverty is quieter here. It lives indoors for the most part. To an extent, it’s hidden in the fabric of the suburban design, and for all the focus on homeless encampments in Los Angeles, far more people cope with cramped, inadequate, barely affordable housing.

Like I said, appearances can be deceiving. Rows of small stucco houses line the streets near Telfair, where the median household income hits the county average of about $54,000, and you can still buy a home for less than $500,000.

But the neighborhood has changed dramatically over the decades, said fifth-grade teacher Sandra Tejeda, a former Telfair student who has taught there for 29 years. Tejeda still lives down the street from the school in the house she grew up in.

“Oh my goodness, things were beautiful,” Tejeda told me as we sat in her classroom after school one day. “People had front lawns, everybody owned their house, we knew who was in each house and we knew we were safe.”

“It used to be single families… Now you see multiple families in a home, in a garage, in makeshift shanties.”

Now, Tejeda said, you see vehicles parked in some yards where gardens once thrived, and small villages of people live on some properties.

“It used to be single families,” said first-grade teacher Gricelda Gutierrez, another former Telfair student who stopped by Tejeda’s class to join our conversation. “Now you see multiple families in a home, in a garage, in makeshift shanties.”

So what drove the change?

More poverty. More renters. Fewer good jobs.

Tejeda’s father worked at the General Motors plant in Van Nuys. In August 1992, the last car — a red Chevy Camaro — rolled off the assembly line where 6 million cars had been produced in 45 years.

My Uncle Chuck worked at that GM plant in the 1960s. He owned a house with a pool in Granada Hills and a weekend cabin in a forest up at Big Bear Lake.

Now the GM plant’s location is a multiplex movie theater called The Plant, a development put together by the Selleck family. The Sellecks (actor Tom and his developer dad and brothers) talked the LAPD into building a training facility across the parking lot from their movie theater, so it’s safe and prosperous.

The Plant movie theater is seven miles north of the intersection of Beverly Glen and Mulholland Drive at the crest of the Hollywood Hills above Beverly Hills.

The following year, The Times ran a story about the death of blue- and white-collar jobs in San Fernando Valley’s once soaring aerospace industry. Hughes Aircraft, Litton Industries, Northrop, Rocketdyne and Lockheed Martin were scaling back or closing altogether. In good times, Pacoima residents didn’t have to work at those places to benefit from the money those jobs sent rippling through the local economy.

The end of the Cold War hit L.A. hard. Much of SoCal’s historic high standard of living for factory workers and engineers had been subsidized by taxpayers in other states.

Just up the street from Telfair, hundreds of union jobs were lost in 1997 when Price Pfister, a kitchen faucet manufacturer, moved production to Mexico. …

Today, a Lowe’s home improvement center stands on the spot where Price Pfister made its faucets.

Lowe’s sells Pfister faucets.

Made in Mexico. …

“I’ve got this friend who bought a four-bedroom house near here,” Pozo said. “He rents each bedroom for $750, and it’s $900 for the bedroom with a bathroom. For the garage, he gets $1,500.”

So that’s $4,650 in rent per month, assuming you can have 100% occupancy.

Supply and demand.

 
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  1. If you import low IQ poor people, you are going to have a low IQ, poor population.

    “A Scandinavian economist once proudly said to free-market advocate Milton Friedman, “In Scandinavia we have no poverty.” And Milton Friedman replied, “That’s interesting, because in America among Scandinavians, we have no poverty, either.””
    -P.J. O’Rourke, in Eat The Rich

    • Replies: @skill(mostly)
    It's not like the minimum IQ required for future jobs will ever get lower again. Most people are already mostly useless. The half-SD between populations is only buying time at best.
    In the end, we'll all get replaced by our genetically engineered children.
    , @AnotherDad

    If you import low IQ poor people, you are going to have a low IQ, poor population.
     
    This is why conservatives can not just be about "secure border" and "rule of law" even though those two things are absolutely critical and political winners.

    To actually win--have a nation that's worth a damn--we must take on the whole Jewish minoritarian/anti-national project and propaganda--"racist!", "eugenics", "Hitler!"--directly.

    When a putz like Brian Schatt's is doing the usual whining about someone saying "Anglo-American", he must be countered and the point punched home. Yes, that is our heritage and that is precisely why America is (or at least was) a great prosperous and free placeand all these other people are dumping their home nations and trying to get into ours.

    America is great because it was a piece of high quality resource rich real estate conquered and settled, by Anglo-Saxons--and other NW Europeans under Anglo-Saxon cultural norms. It's not great because "the Constitution", it's not prosperous from slave labor, it's certainly not great because "nation of immigrants". No America was great because (high IQ, conscientious) productive people met productive land. The other anglo-sphere nations--Cananda, Australia, New Zealand--with different political systems and histories are also very nice prosperous places for the same core reasons.

    America is great, because it was white.

    But you are what you "eat". You take in English--you'll be more like England. Take in Irish--you'll be more like Ireland. Germans--more like Germany. Italians--more like Italy. Chinese--more like China. Indians--more like India. Mexicans--more like Mexico. Salvadorans--more like El Salvador. Somalians--more like Somalia.

    I'm a pretty easy going guy. I'm friends with people from a veritable rainbow of nationalities and ethnic/racial groups. But i want America to be what it was--a predominantely white nation with a white culture anchored in the West. And i'm pretty darn sure people didn't want to change that and we darn sure didn't have vote. Hands up for everyone who wants us to be more like Honduras? Haiti? Somalia?
  2. “I’ve got this friend who bought a four-bedroom house near here,” Pozo said. “He rents each bedroom for $750, and it’s $900 for the bedroom with a bathroom. For the garage, he gets $1,500.”

    This is an interesting quote.

    White nationalists often ask why so many Whites don’t protest this immigration-driven ethnic and economic dispossession. Some blame “white guilt” or “white empathy” for the lack of protest.

    Here’s a more realistic explanation.

    Economics.

    When immigrants come to America, they have to live somewhere. So a homeowner can make a lot of rental money off foreigners who live 10 to a house. A real estate speculator can make a lot of money off immigrants who drive up the demand for housing. A construction contractor can make a lot of money when immigrant labor is used to circumvent native-born union labor.

    How do you think so many retired White Californians got rich? Hard work? Entrepreneurship? Innovation?

    Nope, they got rich by selling/renting their homes for very large amounts of money and moving to Phoenix. If it wasn’t for all these foreigners, they wouldn’t have gotten so affluent.

    Sure, most Whites don’t benefit from any of this, but it’s typically those in the middle and bottom of the economic strata that get hammered. Those people aren’t well-organized politically. Therefore, they get ignored.

    Who do you think shows up to Republican party fundraisers in affluent Orange County cities like Newport Beach and Laguna Beach? Okie joesixpacks and union men? Nope. It’s the real estate developers, financiers, and entrepreneurs. Since these guys make so much money off immigrant laborers and consumers, they tend to be very pro-immigration. Not surprisingly, California Republican politicians (like Governor Reagan) are also pro-immigration.

    It’s not surprising why Orange County Republican office holders are usually silent on immigration. Unfortunately, the changing demographics of the OC have now decimated those Republican office holders. However, all those defeated Republicans will now go on to cushy lobbyist jobs in Newport Beach, provided by the various businessmen who they catered to for decades. So they’ll end up buying Yachts and beachfront property soon.

    When you look at the situation from an economic perspective, everything makes more sense.

    This situation isn’t new. Back 100 years ago, America’s Anglo-Protestant elites let in a bunch of Catholic from Ireland and Italy.

    Why? Did they feel “guilt” and “empathy” towards the Catholics?

    No. The Ellis Island immigrants were let in because they worked cheap and were willing to pay more money (relative to the native Anglos) for dilapidated, overcrowded housing.

    However, 100 years ago, American workers were much better-organized and formed unions (like the Knights of Labor) to fight back against their economic marginalization. The White population was also more unified back then, so they also formed lots of ethno-nationalist organizations (like the KKK) to fight back. This is one reason why immigration was curtailed in the 1920s.

    These days, the White population (especially the working-class) is poorly organized and very socially atomized, so it’s much harder to fight back.

    If Twitter existed 100 years ago, hashtags related to #unionrights and #KKKmarch would’ve “trended” quite strongly. These days, it’s hashtags about #Steelers and #BlackFridaySales that “trend” the best.

    These days, there are very few poor Whites left anywhere who desire to immigrate to U.S., work cheaply, and live in overcrowded housing. So new immigrant sources are being tapped.

    • Replies: @FKA Max


    How do you think so many retired White Californians got rich? Hard work? Entrepreneurship? Innovation?

    Nope, they got rich by selling/renting their homes for very large amounts of money and moving to Phoenix. If it wasn’t for all these foreigners, they wouldn’t have gotten so affluent.
     
    Just commented this:


    Property developers, real-estate agencies and construction firms benefit from the boost to building associated with population growth
    . – https://www.smh.com.au/public-service/rethinking-immigration-and-its-complex-effects-on-society-20170628-gx0dkf.html

    Forbes 400: The Top 10 Real Estate Billionaires

    https://www.bisnow.com/national/news/commercial-real-estate/the-top-10-real-estate-billionaires-on-the-forbes-400-50504?single-page

    Donald Bren “His mother was of partial Irish descent while his father was of Jewish descent.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Bren owns vast tracts of real estate in SoCal , which benefit from population growth/immigration.

    By 2005, OC Weekly wrote that Bren “wields more power than Howard Hughes ever did, probably as much as any man in America over a concentrated region—determining not only how people live and shop but who governs them.”[21] In 2006 the Los Angeles Times wrote “[s]imply put, Orange County looks like Orange County…because of the influence of [Donald Bren].”[22]
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/west-bank-settler-and-american-patriot/#comment-2641154

    Orange County currently looks like this; a (half-Jewish) real estate developer's dream demographics "Maids and Mandarins":


    The 2010 United States Census reported that Orange County had a population of 3,010,232. The racial makeup of Orange County was 1,830,758 (60.8%) White (44.0% non-Hispanic white), 50,744 (1.7%) African American, 18,132 (0.6%) Native American, 537,804 (17.9%) Asian, 9,354 (0.3%) Pacific Islander, 435,641 (14.5%) from other races, and 127,799 (4.2%) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 1,012,973 persons (33.7%).[36]
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_County,_California#Demographics

    The term is generally applied to the officials appointed through the imperial examination system; it sometimes includes and sometimes excludes the eunuchs also involved in the governance of the two realms.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_(bureaucrat)

    Lawyer Complains About Asians in Orange County ft. Steve Greene

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N2XeqLZvTM
    , @Desiderius

    Orange County Republican office holders
     
    You'll be happy to learn then that they've been replaced by non-Republican office holders who have even more of a hard-on for immigration.
    , @Hypnotoad666
    100% correct. Capital always benefits from immigration, which both lowers the cost of labor as an input to production and also increases the demand for that same output.

    One wrinkle, however, might be the extent to which foreign capital also moves in to take away any excess returns to domestic capital owners. Also, the expectation of future immigration may already be baked into the current price of some items, like Southern California real estate.

    , @International Jew
    A dozen tenants living in your home will cost you a lot in wear and tear. Even if $4500/month will pay for that, it'll be a close call.
    , @countenance
    Precisely this. Way too much of modern day American politics are organized around the benefit of the ownership, capital and rentier class. And that class is getting more and more powerful and is getting less and less likely ever to lose because of cognitive stratification, which dynamically relates to and helps that class.
    , @Polynikes
    There aren't a lot of lucrative republican lobbying jobs in a place like California. The thinking by those republican politicians was as shortsighted as it seemed.
    , @James N. Kennett

    When you look at the situation from an economic perspective, everything makes more sense.
     
    Yup. Economics drives poor people to move to places where they can find work, and to live with 16 in a house designed for 4. The only way this can be avoided is to close the borders, enforce housing regulations, and build large numbers of low-rent social housing units.

    The laxity of credit controls on mortgage lending pushes the cost of a home way out of reach of those who live there; they cannot afford even to rent it. The outcome is multiple occupancy, and degeneration to slum conditions. Yet these are the conditions that maximize the rent "earned" from a property. This is why strong regulation is essential to preserving a healthy standard of living. Small government is not necessarily good government - sometimes it is the road to the favela.

  3. Anon[262] • Disclaimer says:

    Listening to Tucker Carlson on some podcasts talk about his book, he says Republican Inc. is still solidly anti-trump.

    So it is not just the Left that is as dumb as a fence post? The establishment right is as braindead as any post modern humanities professor.

    Listen to Tucker and Ben Shapiro talk it out on Ben’s podcast. Compare that to Tuckers appearance on Crowder.

    No one is flying the plane!!!!!

    • Replies: @Anon
    The GOP establishment cannot fathom an existence that did not depend on shilling for the military-industrial complex.

    Eric Cantor isn't relegated to slinging hash. And those congresscucks that retired this year will be well compensated for not pushing immigration cuts.

    In the UK, George Osborne, previously the equivalent of Treasury secretary, admitted that the platform of cutting immigration was always a lie. You see, businesses would get mad if they couldn't import workers, and Muslims would get mad if they couldn't import their cousins. The British peoples did get mad, and voted out of the EU.

    Ben Shapiro can always rest assured that if the US declines by a great extent, he can move to Israel. The rest of us don't have that luxury, witness the plight of the powerless Afrikaners.
  4. Paolo Bacigalupi’s Water Knife paints a dystopian picture of the mid-21st century Southwest in which mega-corporations control all the water and ordinary people struggle to survive amidst mass desertification, water shortages, and gang turf wars.

    I suppose it’s not the most implausible scenario, but I’m not sure that water shortages would be the actual primary culprit.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    William Knustler assures us the cheap energy will run out any day now. No AC, no cheap water pumping, so almost no one living there.
    , @Bill Jones
    There's nothing new or implausible there, it's been going on for a couple of decades elsewhere.

    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2009/06/20/thirst-profit-corporate-control-water-latin-america
    , @Almost Missouri
    Could be. The entire Southwest depends on the Colorado River for water. That river is already 100% allocated. Nothing even reaches Mexico, never mind the Pacific. It is a river that rises in the Rockies and peters out somewhere in the SoCal conurbation.

    Every one of those caravan border jumpers, should they get in, every new immigrant to the Southwest, can only drink water by taking it away from someone else who is already there.

    So yes, water competition will become more heated...
  5. On a lesser scale, stuff like that is non unheard of in Texas. Mexicans are notorious for cohabitating with members of the extended family. Not too sure about now, but back when I was a kid, it was pretty common to have an abuela, an elderly tio/tia, the younger generation and their kids in one house.

    The purpose of this was to pool government checks while one or two in the household worked mainly off the books in agriculture or whatever. My dad always wanted a Ford Bronco, but couldn’t quite justify buying one because in the 80s, that was the cat’s ass of SUVs. Lots of these people, though, had ’em. That was a very important lesson on the fairness of life/economics/getting away with it for a 12 year old.

  6. Anonymous[658] • Disclaimer says:

    @SteveSailer
    A bit of divergence but you might be interested!

    When you mass import the third world, you mass import their “culture” even in the case of [purported] “highly accomplished” immigrants like this “perfessor”, deep in the heart of red america! Any food for thought? There are tons of cases like these to kick the case for “legal immigration” [read Indian and Chinese] to the curb. Please put it on your blog.

    A “highly accomplished professor” uses his ethnic Indian students for such “intellectual pursuits” as trimming his lawn, watching his dog and shoveling snow! Perhaps female students were even given a further “taste” of his “intellect”!

    And this guy has been living here since the 90s apparently. Culture has a deep imprint on the psyche so no matter how many more years he lives here, he’ll always be an Indian [dot] deep down and will revert to it the moment he relaxes his guard

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    When Kuchimanchi once told Mitra he wouldn’t be a servant, “he threatened to kick me out of the university and force me to lose my visa and lose everything. That was his ammo. Either fall in line or you would be thrown out. You didn’t want to be in that situation where you have to go back home empty-handed.” So he continued to do what Mitra asked.
     
    I expect it's not much different in those companies that hire Indians on H1-B visas.
    , @James N. Kennett

    A “highly accomplished professor” uses his ethnic Indian students for such “intellectual pursuits” as trimming his lawn, watching his dog and shoveling snow!
     
    The UK has passed strict laws against "modern slavery". If anyone had the idea that modern slavers look like Leonardo DiCaprio in Django Unchained, then they were quickly disabused of that notion.

    The slavers are always from ethnic minorities, sometimes from the professional classes.

    A Nigerian couple, doctor and nurse, kept another Nigerian as a slave:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4523152/GP-husband-trafficked-Nigerian-slave-UK.html

    A Liberian-born nurse used black magic to control her ring of prostitutes trafficked from Nigeria to Britain and Germany:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5918209/NHS-nurse-jailed-14-years-using-voodoo-force-Nigerian-women-work-prostitutes.html

    Ethnic Indian professional couple kept a Polish man in a shed:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6341291/Two-arrested-suspicion-modern-slavery-man-forced-sleep-shed-four-years.html

    Romanian builders exploiting other Romanians:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6159197/Inside-slavery-compound-Bunk-beds-trainers-strewn-rubbish-Home-Counties-house.html

    Eastern European car washes - these are now ubiquitous:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4280376/Slaves-trafficked-UK-forced-wash-car.html

    Vietnamese nail bars (again ubiquitous - the 100 arrests barely scratch the surface)

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4069256/Salon-swoop-100-arrested-modern-slavery-police-crackdown-nail-bars-employ-illegal-immigrant-staff.html

    Some economists used to tell us that nail bars were an example of successful provision of a service that people didn't realize they wanted. We don't hear that so much now because, embarrassingly, the services actually provided include people trafficking, prostitution, illegal immigration, and money laundering.

  7. Every child in the Buffalo Public School System qualifies for a free lunch. Of course a lot don’t really qualify but why shame the poor kids who do. Today’s Buffalo News features a story about the fact that there are 83 languages spoken by students in BPS. Spanish is the most common followed by Arabic, Karen, Somali, Burmese, Swahili, Bengali and Nepali. With the exception of 50 bi-lingual Spanish teachers there are no bi-lingual teachers for the other languages. The district employs 200 English teachers who, according to the article, use other strategies to teach English. State law reportedly requires a bilingual teacher if there are 20 or more students in a grade that are non English speakers. I foresee a dark future for most of these children.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    The students will acquire English because they need it--motivation is a great teacher.

    A local adolescent is an Arab-speaking Yemeni (son of a shopkeeper) who went from no English to conversational English in about a year. I can't address his schoolwork, but his language acquisition was impressive.

    As a youngster, I became a good friend with a new classmate who'd returned from a year in France speaking fluent French--his father was an engineering professor teaching in France for a year.
  8. @JohnnyWalker123

    “I’ve got this friend who bought a four-bedroom house near here,” Pozo said. “He rents each bedroom for $750, and it’s $900 for the bedroom with a bathroom. For the garage, he gets $1,500.”
     
    This is an interesting quote.

    White nationalists often ask why so many Whites don't protest this immigration-driven ethnic and economic dispossession. Some blame "white guilt" or "white empathy" for the lack of protest.

    Here's a more realistic explanation.

    Economics.

    When immigrants come to America, they have to live somewhere. So a homeowner can make a lot of rental money off foreigners who live 10 to a house. A real estate speculator can make a lot of money off immigrants who drive up the demand for housing. A construction contractor can make a lot of money when immigrant labor is used to circumvent native-born union labor.

    How do you think so many retired White Californians got rich? Hard work? Entrepreneurship? Innovation?

    Nope, they got rich by selling/renting their homes for very large amounts of money and moving to Phoenix. If it wasn't for all these foreigners, they wouldn't have gotten so affluent.

    Sure, most Whites don't benefit from any of this, but it's typically those in the middle and bottom of the economic strata that get hammered. Those people aren't well-organized politically. Therefore, they get ignored.

    Who do you think shows up to Republican party fundraisers in affluent Orange County cities like Newport Beach and Laguna Beach? Okie joesixpacks and union men? Nope. It's the real estate developers, financiers, and entrepreneurs. Since these guys make so much money off immigrant laborers and consumers, they tend to be very pro-immigration. Not surprisingly, California Republican politicians (like Governor Reagan) are also pro-immigration.

    It's not surprising why Orange County Republican office holders are usually silent on immigration. Unfortunately, the changing demographics of the OC have now decimated those Republican office holders. However, all those defeated Republicans will now go on to cushy lobbyist jobs in Newport Beach, provided by the various businessmen who they catered to for decades. So they'll end up buying Yachts and beachfront property soon.

    When you look at the situation from an economic perspective, everything makes more sense.

    This situation isn't new. Back 100 years ago, America's Anglo-Protestant elites let in a bunch of Catholic from Ireland and Italy.

    Why? Did they feel "guilt" and "empathy" towards the Catholics?

    No. The Ellis Island immigrants were let in because they worked cheap and were willing to pay more money (relative to the native Anglos) for dilapidated, overcrowded housing.

    However, 100 years ago, American workers were much better-organized and formed unions (like the Knights of Labor) to fight back against their economic marginalization. The White population was also more unified back then, so they also formed lots of ethno-nationalist organizations (like the KKK) to fight back. This is one reason why immigration was curtailed in the 1920s.

    These days, the White population (especially the working-class) is poorly organized and very socially atomized, so it's much harder to fight back.

    If Twitter existed 100 years ago, hashtags related to #unionrights and #KKKmarch would've "trended" quite strongly. These days, it's hashtags about #Steelers and #BlackFridaySales that "trend" the best.

    These days, there are very few poor Whites left anywhere who desire to immigrate to U.S., work cheaply, and live in overcrowded housing. So new immigrant sources are being tapped.

    How do you think so many retired White Californians got rich? Hard work? Entrepreneurship? Innovation?

    Nope, they got rich by selling/renting their homes for very large amounts of money and moving to Phoenix. If it wasn’t for all these foreigners, they wouldn’t have gotten so affluent.

    Just commented this:


    Property developers, real-estate agencies and construction firms benefit from the boost to building associated with population growth
    . – https://www.smh.com.au/public-service/rethinking-immigration-and-its-complex-effects-on-society-20170628-gx0dkf.html

    Forbes 400: The Top 10 Real Estate Billionaires

    https://www.bisnow.com/national/news/commercial-real-estate/the-top-10-real-estate-billionaires-on-the-forbes-400-50504?single-page

    Donald Bren “His mother was of partial Irish descent while his father was of Jewish descent.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Bren owns vast tracts of real estate in SoCal , which benefit from population growth/immigration.

    By 2005, OC Weekly wrote that Bren “wields more power than Howard Hughes ever did, probably as much as any man in America over a concentrated region—determining not only how people live and shop but who governs them.”[21] In 2006 the Los Angeles Times wrote “[s]imply put, Orange County looks like Orange County…because of the influence of [Donald Bren].”[22]

    http://www.unz.com/article/west-bank-settler-and-american-patriot/#comment-2641154

    Orange County currently looks like this; a (half-Jewish) real estate developer’s dream demographics “Maids and Mandarins”:

    The 2010 United States Census reported that Orange County had a population of 3,010,232. The racial makeup of Orange County was 1,830,758 (60.8%) White (44.0% non-Hispanic white), 50,744 (1.7%) African American, 18,132 (0.6%) Native American, 537,804 (17.9%) Asian, 9,354 (0.3%) Pacific Islander, 435,641 (14.5%) from other races, and 127,799 (4.2%) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 1,012,973 persons (33.7%).[36]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_County,_California#Demographics

    The term is generally applied to the officials appointed through the imperial examination system; it sometimes includes and sometimes excludes the eunuchs also involved in the governance of the two realms.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_(bureaucrat)

    Lawyer Complains About Asians in Orange County ft. Steve Greene

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    Property developers, real-estate agencies and construction firms benefit from the boost to building associated with population growth

    How much new home and retail construction would there be if the population size were stable? Not nearly as much as when there's rapid population growth.

    For most industries (food, movie theaters, toilet paper, etc) a 2% population increase would mean a roughly 2% increase in demand. For construction and associated industries (mortgage loans, etc) a 2% increase in population could easily mean a 20-30-40% increase in business. Perhaps more. Because without population growth most of what you'd be doing is replacing decaying housing stock.

    That may sound like a great way to "grow" the economy, but to me (and I'm no economist) it seems like the downside to growing your economy in that way is that little if any of the extra economic output is export-oriented. Most of it is disproportionately focused on providing goods and services to the new arrivals. Which seems like it would mean a lot more borrowing and a lot more debt. Indeed of the countries with the largest trade deficits four of them (the USA, the UK, Australia, & Canada) are all Anglo countries with very high rates of immigration. Three of those countries (all but the UK) have both very well educated populations and are resource rich relative to their population size.

    But Canada's and Australia's populations each grew by around in just two years and the US and UK are each growing quite rapidly, as well. Our economies are certainly growing, but our debts appear to be growing even faster. It's insanity.
  9. American cities don’t seem to survive an industry or two breaking away. Guess that’s because of hyperspecialization. (no more cars, no more Detroit; no more Cold War, no more North Hills)
    They are small, nearly isolated nodes in a wide unconnected empty space (or worse yet, Los Angeles).
    So very fragile.
    European cities and towns tend to do better, having grown more organically and being embedded economically and culturally in a dense network of close neighbouring towns. Antifragile (hopefully anyway).

    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Newton, Iowa survived the acquisition of Maytag by Whirlpool and the closing of both the manufacturing facilities and corporate headquarters. But as you explain, Newton was a part of a network of other small towns. (Okay, Newton, Iowa is hardly a city, but the principle is the same.) Newton is still probably about 95% white. But even in Newton there are storm clouds on the horizon: the wind turbine plant is bussing in Africans (Somalians? Sudanese?) to work in a plant that once built washing machines, dryers and dishwashers and was organized by the UAW.
  10. So that’s $4,650 in rent per month, assuming you can have 100% occupancy.

    That seems like a lot of money for monthly rent! Who is paying it?

    Also, why does the garage fetch more than the rooms?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    A typical garage is 20'x20' for 400 square feet, plus it has its own external door. A typical bedroom is half that size or smaller and you have to walk through the rest of the house to get outside, unless you are renting your room from Dr. Prof. Blasey Ford.
    , @Anonymous


    So that’s $4,650 in rent per month, assuming you can have 100% occupancy.
     
    That seems like a lot of money for monthly rent! Who is paying it?
     
    I pay over $3k/month for a one-bedroom apartment in the Boston area. There is a lot of Department of War and U.S. government money pumped into Massachusetts and New Hampshire. Almost as much as Silicon Valley.
    , @stillCARealist
    I looked into renting a parking space for my son who would commute to UC Berkeley. $200/month to park in a driveway close to campus, free from fear of parking tickets. And of course, this is just a commuter, so no overnighters and few weekends.
  11. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Listening to Tucker Carlson on some podcasts talk about his book, he says Republican Inc. is still solidly anti-trump.

    So it is not just the Left that is as dumb as a fence post? The establishment right is as braindead as any post modern humanities professor.

    Listen to Tucker and Ben Shapiro talk it out on Ben's podcast. Compare that to Tuckers appearance on Crowder.

    No one is flying the plane!!!!!

    The GOP establishment cannot fathom an existence that did not depend on shilling for the military-industrial complex.

    Eric Cantor isn’t relegated to slinging hash. And those congresscucks that retired this year will be well compensated for not pushing immigration cuts.

    In the UK, George Osborne, previously the equivalent of Treasury secretary, admitted that the platform of cutting immigration was always a lie. You see, businesses would get mad if they couldn’t import workers, and Muslims would get mad if they couldn’t import their cousins. The British peoples did get mad, and voted out of the EU.

    Ben Shapiro can always rest assured that if the US declines by a great extent, he can move to Israel. The rest of us don’t have that luxury, witness the plight of the powerless Afrikaners.

    • Replies: @George Taylor

    Ben Shapiro can always rest assured that if the US declines by a great extent, he can move to Israel. The rest of us don’t have that luxury, witness the plight of the powerless Afrikaners.
     
    True, but when the US declines it will have a difficult time continuing to subsidize Israel and sending carrier task forces to fend off Israels many many enemies. Life could get a bit more perilous there as well.
  12. @Anonymous

    So that’s $4,650 in rent per month, assuming you can have 100% occupancy.
     
    That seems like a lot of money for monthly rent! Who is paying it?

    Also, why does the garage fetch more than the rooms?

    A typical garage is 20’x20′ for 400 square feet, plus it has its own external door. A typical bedroom is half that size or smaller and you have to walk through the rest of the house to get outside, unless you are renting your room from Dr. Prof. Blasey Ford.

    • LOL: Bubba
  13. @JohnnyWalker123

    “I’ve got this friend who bought a four-bedroom house near here,” Pozo said. “He rents each bedroom for $750, and it’s $900 for the bedroom with a bathroom. For the garage, he gets $1,500.”
     
    This is an interesting quote.

    White nationalists often ask why so many Whites don't protest this immigration-driven ethnic and economic dispossession. Some blame "white guilt" or "white empathy" for the lack of protest.

    Here's a more realistic explanation.

    Economics.

    When immigrants come to America, they have to live somewhere. So a homeowner can make a lot of rental money off foreigners who live 10 to a house. A real estate speculator can make a lot of money off immigrants who drive up the demand for housing. A construction contractor can make a lot of money when immigrant labor is used to circumvent native-born union labor.

    How do you think so many retired White Californians got rich? Hard work? Entrepreneurship? Innovation?

    Nope, they got rich by selling/renting their homes for very large amounts of money and moving to Phoenix. If it wasn't for all these foreigners, they wouldn't have gotten so affluent.

    Sure, most Whites don't benefit from any of this, but it's typically those in the middle and bottom of the economic strata that get hammered. Those people aren't well-organized politically. Therefore, they get ignored.

    Who do you think shows up to Republican party fundraisers in affluent Orange County cities like Newport Beach and Laguna Beach? Okie joesixpacks and union men? Nope. It's the real estate developers, financiers, and entrepreneurs. Since these guys make so much money off immigrant laborers and consumers, they tend to be very pro-immigration. Not surprisingly, California Republican politicians (like Governor Reagan) are also pro-immigration.

    It's not surprising why Orange County Republican office holders are usually silent on immigration. Unfortunately, the changing demographics of the OC have now decimated those Republican office holders. However, all those defeated Republicans will now go on to cushy lobbyist jobs in Newport Beach, provided by the various businessmen who they catered to for decades. So they'll end up buying Yachts and beachfront property soon.

    When you look at the situation from an economic perspective, everything makes more sense.

    This situation isn't new. Back 100 years ago, America's Anglo-Protestant elites let in a bunch of Catholic from Ireland and Italy.

    Why? Did they feel "guilt" and "empathy" towards the Catholics?

    No. The Ellis Island immigrants were let in because they worked cheap and were willing to pay more money (relative to the native Anglos) for dilapidated, overcrowded housing.

    However, 100 years ago, American workers were much better-organized and formed unions (like the Knights of Labor) to fight back against their economic marginalization. The White population was also more unified back then, so they also formed lots of ethno-nationalist organizations (like the KKK) to fight back. This is one reason why immigration was curtailed in the 1920s.

    These days, the White population (especially the working-class) is poorly organized and very socially atomized, so it's much harder to fight back.

    If Twitter existed 100 years ago, hashtags related to #unionrights and #KKKmarch would've "trended" quite strongly. These days, it's hashtags about #Steelers and #BlackFridaySales that "trend" the best.

    These days, there are very few poor Whites left anywhere who desire to immigrate to U.S., work cheaply, and live in overcrowded housing. So new immigrant sources are being tapped.

    Orange County Republican office holders

    You’ll be happy to learn then that they’ve been replaced by non-Republican office holders who have even more of a hard-on for immigration.

  14. @Flip
    If you import low IQ poor people, you are going to have a low IQ, poor population.

    "A Scandinavian economist once proudly said to free-market advocate Milton Friedman, “In Scandinavia we have no poverty.” And Milton Friedman replied, “That’s interesting, because in America among Scandinavians, we have no poverty, either.”"
    -P.J. O’Rourke, in Eat The Rich

    It’s not like the minimum IQ required for future jobs will ever get lower again. Most people are already mostly useless. The half-SD between populations is only buying time at best.
    In the end, we’ll all get replaced by our genetically engineered children.

  15. @JohnnyWalker123

    “I’ve got this friend who bought a four-bedroom house near here,” Pozo said. “He rents each bedroom for $750, and it’s $900 for the bedroom with a bathroom. For the garage, he gets $1,500.”
     
    This is an interesting quote.

    White nationalists often ask why so many Whites don't protest this immigration-driven ethnic and economic dispossession. Some blame "white guilt" or "white empathy" for the lack of protest.

    Here's a more realistic explanation.

    Economics.

    When immigrants come to America, they have to live somewhere. So a homeowner can make a lot of rental money off foreigners who live 10 to a house. A real estate speculator can make a lot of money off immigrants who drive up the demand for housing. A construction contractor can make a lot of money when immigrant labor is used to circumvent native-born union labor.

    How do you think so many retired White Californians got rich? Hard work? Entrepreneurship? Innovation?

    Nope, they got rich by selling/renting their homes for very large amounts of money and moving to Phoenix. If it wasn't for all these foreigners, they wouldn't have gotten so affluent.

    Sure, most Whites don't benefit from any of this, but it's typically those in the middle and bottom of the economic strata that get hammered. Those people aren't well-organized politically. Therefore, they get ignored.

    Who do you think shows up to Republican party fundraisers in affluent Orange County cities like Newport Beach and Laguna Beach? Okie joesixpacks and union men? Nope. It's the real estate developers, financiers, and entrepreneurs. Since these guys make so much money off immigrant laborers and consumers, they tend to be very pro-immigration. Not surprisingly, California Republican politicians (like Governor Reagan) are also pro-immigration.

    It's not surprising why Orange County Republican office holders are usually silent on immigration. Unfortunately, the changing demographics of the OC have now decimated those Republican office holders. However, all those defeated Republicans will now go on to cushy lobbyist jobs in Newport Beach, provided by the various businessmen who they catered to for decades. So they'll end up buying Yachts and beachfront property soon.

    When you look at the situation from an economic perspective, everything makes more sense.

    This situation isn't new. Back 100 years ago, America's Anglo-Protestant elites let in a bunch of Catholic from Ireland and Italy.

    Why? Did they feel "guilt" and "empathy" towards the Catholics?

    No. The Ellis Island immigrants were let in because they worked cheap and were willing to pay more money (relative to the native Anglos) for dilapidated, overcrowded housing.

    However, 100 years ago, American workers were much better-organized and formed unions (like the Knights of Labor) to fight back against their economic marginalization. The White population was also more unified back then, so they also formed lots of ethno-nationalist organizations (like the KKK) to fight back. This is one reason why immigration was curtailed in the 1920s.

    These days, the White population (especially the working-class) is poorly organized and very socially atomized, so it's much harder to fight back.

    If Twitter existed 100 years ago, hashtags related to #unionrights and #KKKmarch would've "trended" quite strongly. These days, it's hashtags about #Steelers and #BlackFridaySales that "trend" the best.

    These days, there are very few poor Whites left anywhere who desire to immigrate to U.S., work cheaply, and live in overcrowded housing. So new immigrant sources are being tapped.

    100% correct. Capital always benefits from immigration, which both lowers the cost of labor as an input to production and also increases the demand for that same output.

    One wrinkle, however, might be the extent to which foreign capital also moves in to take away any excess returns to domestic capital owners. Also, the expectation of future immigration may already be baked into the current price of some items, like Southern California real estate.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The fundamental contradiction - as Karl Marx pointed out all those years ago - is that as wages inevitably tend to zero, in the scenario of unlimited labor supply - purchasing power and thus demand and capital formation - tends to zero in lockstep.
  16. The half-SD between populations is only buying time at best.

    What do you mean?

  17. Move jobs to Mexico and poor Mexicans to Southern California and I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Move jobs to Mexico and poor Mexicans to Southern California and I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise.
     
    Who is Jack?
  18. All around LA you see little round brown women bustling along with their kids, going to work or shopping from their rented garages, spare rooms or shared apartments.

    These (mostly) Central American immigrants are technically very poor. But they don’t seem or act the least bit depressed, resentful or oppressed. Indeed, given where they came from, they probably feel like they have hit the Mother Load by living on the cheap in LA.

    The poverty of LA’s immigrant neighborhoods therefore has a completely different feel than, say, dysfunctional black ghettos, or the sole crushing desperation of homeless people. The immigrants strike me as though they are probably a good bit happier and better adjusted than the average neurotic white Angeleno.

    Whether they become a resentful underclass in subsequent generations, I don’t know.

    But whatever problems Latin immigration brings to America we can at least be thankful we aren’t being invaded by Africans and Muslims. That would be a whole other kettle of fish.

    • Replies: @Ed
    Immigrant Hispanic hoods are infinitely safer than black hoods and tend to have more commercial activity as well. Still doing better than blacks is no reason for them to be here in large numbers.
    , @Anonymous
    'Hit the Mother load'.

    Well, by the looks of things, Hillary Clinton dropped a 'mother load' the other day.
    , @Carol
    I don't think it would take much for Hispanics to "rediscover" their arabic heritage.
    , @Forbes

    at least be thankful we aren’t being invaded by Africans and Muslims.
     
    If only that were true.
  19. @Dave Pinsen
    Move jobs to Mexico and poor Mexicans to Southern California and I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise.

    Move jobs to Mexico and poor Mexicans to Southern California and I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise.

    Who is Jack?

  20. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:

    Where the hell is HUD? You can cram 30 people into a 3 bedroom house if you own it, and all 30 are your family.

    Renting is totally different. Two people per bedroom is the maximum HUD allows by law, and these motels are not exempt either. These slumlords are breaking the law. The local HUD office is completely derelict and complicit. Where is sleepy Benzo Carson? Send in the damn feds.

    • Replies: @Daniel H
    >>These slumlords are breaking the law. The local HUD office is completely derelict and complicit. Where is sleepy Benzo Carson? Send in the damn feds.

    Slumlords braking the law, you don't say. And don't even bother calling on the feds, they created this situation. This deeply entrenched poverty, this blasting of the proles (white, brown, black, whatever) is a feature, not a bug.
    , @Mr McKenna
    The laws pertaining to this set of circumstances are generally state and local codes. In the (very liberal) jurisdiction I used to live in, such laws were simply never applied to latinos. They even had their own 'department within a department' at every level of local government, staffed with (you guessed it) more latinos.

    For anyone to notice something like ten cars in what used to be a front garden, or scores of filthy, half-clothed urchins running about in traffic, or suddenly overcrowded and under-performing schools and hospitals, well you'd have to be a deplorable racist even to raise an eyebrow.

    Fact is (as others have observed here) the Goodwhites were just relieved that we weren't full of blacks like that other jurisdiction on the other side of the river. They have it even worse. Rather than DWIs w/o license or insurance, and regular molestations of underage relations, they have nightly multiple shootings. That is worse, isn't it? Hard to keep track nowadays.

  21. Anonymous[346] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    So that’s $4,650 in rent per month, assuming you can have 100% occupancy.
     
    That seems like a lot of money for monthly rent! Who is paying it?

    Also, why does the garage fetch more than the rooms?

    So that’s $4,650 in rent per month, assuming you can have 100% occupancy.

    That seems like a lot of money for monthly rent! Who is paying it?

    I pay over $3k/month for a one-bedroom apartment in the Boston area. There is a lot of Department of War and U.S. government money pumped into Massachusetts and New Hampshire. Almost as much as Silicon Valley.

  22. Anon[279] • Disclaimer says:

    About 80% of the more than 600,000 students qualify for free or reduced-price meals.

    So? Make the requirements more stringent and we can get that down to 250,000. Problem solved.

    Why do these people come here if they can’t support themselves? I travel internationally extensively and I always pay for my own food and hotels, because I’m not a parasite. There’s this thing called, not being a moron, and possessing skills that someone might wish to pay you for.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri

    "Why do these people come here if they can’t support themselves?"
     
    These people come here because they can't support themselves. Central America has no welfare state.

    "I travel internationally extensively and I always pay for my own food and hotels, because I’m not a parasite."
     
    That's you. But now you also get to pay for their food and hotels, because they're not just "traveling internationally", they're moving to your home with or without your invitation.
  23. Are you implying that there will be a caravan headed for Sacramento next?

  24. @JohnnyWalker123

    “I’ve got this friend who bought a four-bedroom house near here,” Pozo said. “He rents each bedroom for $750, and it’s $900 for the bedroom with a bathroom. For the garage, he gets $1,500.”
     
    This is an interesting quote.

    White nationalists often ask why so many Whites don't protest this immigration-driven ethnic and economic dispossession. Some blame "white guilt" or "white empathy" for the lack of protest.

    Here's a more realistic explanation.

    Economics.

    When immigrants come to America, they have to live somewhere. So a homeowner can make a lot of rental money off foreigners who live 10 to a house. A real estate speculator can make a lot of money off immigrants who drive up the demand for housing. A construction contractor can make a lot of money when immigrant labor is used to circumvent native-born union labor.

    How do you think so many retired White Californians got rich? Hard work? Entrepreneurship? Innovation?

    Nope, they got rich by selling/renting their homes for very large amounts of money and moving to Phoenix. If it wasn't for all these foreigners, they wouldn't have gotten so affluent.

    Sure, most Whites don't benefit from any of this, but it's typically those in the middle and bottom of the economic strata that get hammered. Those people aren't well-organized politically. Therefore, they get ignored.

    Who do you think shows up to Republican party fundraisers in affluent Orange County cities like Newport Beach and Laguna Beach? Okie joesixpacks and union men? Nope. It's the real estate developers, financiers, and entrepreneurs. Since these guys make so much money off immigrant laborers and consumers, they tend to be very pro-immigration. Not surprisingly, California Republican politicians (like Governor Reagan) are also pro-immigration.

    It's not surprising why Orange County Republican office holders are usually silent on immigration. Unfortunately, the changing demographics of the OC have now decimated those Republican office holders. However, all those defeated Republicans will now go on to cushy lobbyist jobs in Newport Beach, provided by the various businessmen who they catered to for decades. So they'll end up buying Yachts and beachfront property soon.

    When you look at the situation from an economic perspective, everything makes more sense.

    This situation isn't new. Back 100 years ago, America's Anglo-Protestant elites let in a bunch of Catholic from Ireland and Italy.

    Why? Did they feel "guilt" and "empathy" towards the Catholics?

    No. The Ellis Island immigrants were let in because they worked cheap and were willing to pay more money (relative to the native Anglos) for dilapidated, overcrowded housing.

    However, 100 years ago, American workers were much better-organized and formed unions (like the Knights of Labor) to fight back against their economic marginalization. The White population was also more unified back then, so they also formed lots of ethno-nationalist organizations (like the KKK) to fight back. This is one reason why immigration was curtailed in the 1920s.

    These days, the White population (especially the working-class) is poorly organized and very socially atomized, so it's much harder to fight back.

    If Twitter existed 100 years ago, hashtags related to #unionrights and #KKKmarch would've "trended" quite strongly. These days, it's hashtags about #Steelers and #BlackFridaySales that "trend" the best.

    These days, there are very few poor Whites left anywhere who desire to immigrate to U.S., work cheaply, and live in overcrowded housing. So new immigrant sources are being tapped.

    A dozen tenants living in your home will cost you a lot in wear and tear. Even if $4500/month will pay for that, it’ll be a close call.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Barnard
    If you bought the house for $175,000 30 years ago and only make enough repairs to keep the place standing you can still make a good profit.

    You may be right in some cases though. My wife used to watch Flip or Flop on HGTV and I saw a few episodes where they bought trashed foreclosures. I didn't occur to me until reading this article that those properties very well could have been rented out to illegals.
  25. Today, a Lowe’s home improvement center stands on the spot where Price Pfister made its faucets. Lowe’s sells Pfister faucets. Made in Mexico.

    This used to bother me. It really doesn’t anymore. What are the choices?

    1) Price Pfister faucets made in China with Chinese labor.
    2) Price Pfister faucets made in Mexico with Mexican labor.
    3) Price Pfister faucets made in the United States…with Mexican (and Somali, and Honduran) labor.

    All things considered I prefer Option #2. It at least gives Mexicans a reason to stay in Mexico.

  26. Why do these people hang on? Better yet, why do they procreate their misery? Can’t somebody please collect dinosaur DNA from fossilized amber and reintroduce velociraptors and saber tooth tigers to SoCal.

  27. @Anonymous
    Where the hell is HUD? You can cram 30 people into a 3 bedroom house if you own it, and all 30 are your family.

    Renting is totally different. Two people per bedroom is the maximum HUD allows by law, and these motels are not exempt either. These slumlords are breaking the law. The local HUD office is completely derelict and complicit. Where is sleepy Benzo Carson? Send in the damn feds.

    >>These slumlords are breaking the law. The local HUD office is completely derelict and complicit. Where is sleepy Benzo Carson? Send in the damn feds.

    Slumlords braking the law, you don’t say. And don’t even bother calling on the feds, they created this situation. This deeply entrenched poverty, this blasting of the proles (white, brown, black, whatever) is a feature, not a bug.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Slumlords braking the law...
     
    Now there's an eggcorn that makes sense. Decelerating enforcement.

    Is this engine braking, or anti-lock?
  28. @FKA Max


    How do you think so many retired White Californians got rich? Hard work? Entrepreneurship? Innovation?

    Nope, they got rich by selling/renting their homes for very large amounts of money and moving to Phoenix. If it wasn’t for all these foreigners, they wouldn’t have gotten so affluent.
     
    Just commented this:


    Property developers, real-estate agencies and construction firms benefit from the boost to building associated with population growth
    . – https://www.smh.com.au/public-service/rethinking-immigration-and-its-complex-effects-on-society-20170628-gx0dkf.html

    Forbes 400: The Top 10 Real Estate Billionaires

    https://www.bisnow.com/national/news/commercial-real-estate/the-top-10-real-estate-billionaires-on-the-forbes-400-50504?single-page

    Donald Bren “His mother was of partial Irish descent while his father was of Jewish descent.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Bren owns vast tracts of real estate in SoCal , which benefit from population growth/immigration.

    By 2005, OC Weekly wrote that Bren “wields more power than Howard Hughes ever did, probably as much as any man in America over a concentrated region—determining not only how people live and shop but who governs them.”[21] In 2006 the Los Angeles Times wrote “[s]imply put, Orange County looks like Orange County…because of the influence of [Donald Bren].”[22]
     
    - http://www.unz.com/article/west-bank-settler-and-american-patriot/#comment-2641154

    Orange County currently looks like this; a (half-Jewish) real estate developer's dream demographics "Maids and Mandarins":


    The 2010 United States Census reported that Orange County had a population of 3,010,232. The racial makeup of Orange County was 1,830,758 (60.8%) White (44.0% non-Hispanic white), 50,744 (1.7%) African American, 18,132 (0.6%) Native American, 537,804 (17.9%) Asian, 9,354 (0.3%) Pacific Islander, 435,641 (14.5%) from other races, and 127,799 (4.2%) from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 1,012,973 persons (33.7%).[36]
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_County,_California#Demographics

    The term is generally applied to the officials appointed through the imperial examination system; it sometimes includes and sometimes excludes the eunuchs also involved in the governance of the two realms.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_(bureaucrat)

    Lawyer Complains About Asians in Orange County ft. Steve Greene

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N2XeqLZvTM

    Property developers, real-estate agencies and construction firms benefit from the boost to building associated with population growth

    How much new home and retail construction would there be if the population size were stable? Not nearly as much as when there’s rapid population growth.

    For most industries (food, movie theaters, toilet paper, etc) a 2% population increase would mean a roughly 2% increase in demand. For construction and associated industries (mortgage loans, etc) a 2% increase in population could easily mean a 20-30-40% increase in business. Perhaps more. Because without population growth most of what you’d be doing is replacing decaying housing stock.

    That may sound like a great way to “grow” the economy, but to me (and I’m no economist) it seems like the downside to growing your economy in that way is that little if any of the extra economic output is export-oriented. Most of it is disproportionately focused on providing goods and services to the new arrivals. Which seems like it would mean a lot more borrowing and a lot more debt. Indeed of the countries with the largest trade deficits four of them (the USA, the UK, Australia, & Canada) are all Anglo countries with very high rates of immigration. Three of those countries (all but the UK) have both very well educated populations and are resource rich relative to their population size.

    But Canada’s and Australia’s populations each grew by around in just two years and the US and UK are each growing quite rapidly, as well. Our economies are certainly growing, but our debts appear to be growing even faster. It’s insanity.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    I meant to type: "But Canada’s and Australia’s populations each grew by around 6% in just two years."
    , @FKA Max

    It’s insanity.
     
    Indeed!

    Welcome to "Chimerica" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimerica !

    SNN - Chimerica, what it means and it's function of impact

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS2Ik0wClGg

    , @TomSchmidt
    How much new home and retail construction would there be if the population size were stable? Not nearly as much as when there’s rapid population growth.

    There's something else going on, too: the cost of fuel. In 2008, the housing that collapsed most severely in price was all the easy-to-develop places in the exurban fringe. Most have not recovered to pre-2008 status. The fundamental issue is that there aren't close-in development opportunities anymore. When you're driving 100 miles a day to your job in an SUV that averages 25mpg, at $4 a gallon that's about $350 a month in gas alone.

    These families are overcrowding closer in, where they have shorter travel or buses they can take to work downtown LA. Expect to see more creation of slums (which originally meant overcrowding, nothing racial) as population continues to flood in to the USA. It's the only way it's affordable.
  29. It’s considered in poor taste to notice the connection between the flow of people over the border…

    Indeed, according to the SPLC, it’s in bad taste to use aqueous terminology at all.

    Unless you’re talking about guns. Then “flow” is OK. Something menstrual going on there.

  30. …far more people cope with cramped, inadequate, barely affordable housing.

    Yeah, garages suck. Even in warm climates.

    • Replies: @NoseytheDuke
    When I lived in LA lots of people were upgrading the doors on the 2 car garages in suburban houses. The old wooden doors would then be piled high onto an old truck and driven south to Tijuana where four of them would be used to make the four walls of a "dwelling" with corrugated iron making the roof. Cold in winter and hot in summer.
  31. @Daniel H
    >>These slumlords are breaking the law. The local HUD office is completely derelict and complicit. Where is sleepy Benzo Carson? Send in the damn feds.

    Slumlords braking the law, you don't say. And don't even bother calling on the feds, they created this situation. This deeply entrenched poverty, this blasting of the proles (white, brown, black, whatever) is a feature, not a bug.

    Slumlords braking the law…

    Now there’s an eggcorn that makes sense. Decelerating enforcement.

    Is this engine braking, or anti-lock?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Yet, you missed the Mother Load, but caught this one? You're slipping, Reg.

    BTW, I explained one time to Mr. Derbyshire how these homonym errors come in when one thinks of words via sound in the head while typing. I've done it to, know, two, w8, too many times too count myself. It's easily caught upon proofreading.
  32. @Wilkey
    Property developers, real-estate agencies and construction firms benefit from the boost to building associated with population growth

    How much new home and retail construction would there be if the population size were stable? Not nearly as much as when there's rapid population growth.

    For most industries (food, movie theaters, toilet paper, etc) a 2% population increase would mean a roughly 2% increase in demand. For construction and associated industries (mortgage loans, etc) a 2% increase in population could easily mean a 20-30-40% increase in business. Perhaps more. Because without population growth most of what you'd be doing is replacing decaying housing stock.

    That may sound like a great way to "grow" the economy, but to me (and I'm no economist) it seems like the downside to growing your economy in that way is that little if any of the extra economic output is export-oriented. Most of it is disproportionately focused on providing goods and services to the new arrivals. Which seems like it would mean a lot more borrowing and a lot more debt. Indeed of the countries with the largest trade deficits four of them (the USA, the UK, Australia, & Canada) are all Anglo countries with very high rates of immigration. Three of those countries (all but the UK) have both very well educated populations and are resource rich relative to their population size.

    But Canada's and Australia's populations each grew by around in just two years and the US and UK are each growing quite rapidly, as well. Our economies are certainly growing, but our debts appear to be growing even faster. It's insanity.

    I meant to type: “But Canada’s and Australia’s populations each grew by around 6% in just two years.”

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Uncontrolled growth is not characteristic of healthy organisms.
    It's characteristic of cancers.
  33. Anonymous[309] • Disclaimer says:

    “… for the kids, this was no temporary setback. This was life, dragging belongings from one place to the next, tethered to problems they didn’t create. …”
    They didn’t create the problems but their mom sure did. What in the world possesses someone to bring 4 kids into the world with no plan to take care of them? Her first child was born right after the economy crashed? And that seemed like such a good idea that she had 3 more? Does it ever occur to Steve Lopez that readers might be wondering about this as well? Reporters never ask about the kids’ father(s)? There must have been some kind of man in her life as recently as 21 months ago.
    I’m so depressed

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "I’m so depressed"

    But that mother of four isn't. Depressed people tend not to have children.

    "with no plan to take care of them"

    US taxpayers will take care of them, and educate them, and give them healthcare.
    , @stillCARealist
    Impulsive behavior and minimal smarts leads to some pretty dreary outcomes. I was talking to a woman I know who works in landscaping with her husband. She's half Navajo and he's Mexican. They had their first baby when she was 13 and he 16. Were her parents outraged? She just shrugged. Then they went on to have 7 more babies together (and eventually marrying and getting him citizenship).

    so 8 kids in absolute poverty, with minimal education and only gardening skills. Think they've had a tough life? You bet. None of their kids are procreating, interestingly.
  34. @Hypnotoad666
    All around LA you see little round brown women bustling along with their kids, going to work or shopping from their rented garages, spare rooms or shared apartments.

    These (mostly) Central American immigrants are technically very poor. But they don't seem or act the least bit depressed, resentful or oppressed. Indeed, given where they came from, they probably feel like they have hit the Mother Load by living on the cheap in LA.

    The poverty of LA's immigrant neighborhoods therefore has a completely different feel than, say, dysfunctional black ghettos, or the sole crushing desperation of homeless people. The immigrants strike me as though they are probably a good bit happier and better adjusted than the average neurotic white Angeleno.

    Whether they become a resentful underclass in subsequent generations, I don't know.

    But whatever problems Latin immigration brings to America we can at least be thankful we aren't being invaded by Africans and Muslims. That would be a whole other kettle of fish.

    Immigrant Hispanic hoods are infinitely safer than black hoods and tend to have more commercial activity as well. Still doing better than blacks is no reason for them to be here in large numbers.

  35. @Wilkey
    Property developers, real-estate agencies and construction firms benefit from the boost to building associated with population growth

    How much new home and retail construction would there be if the population size were stable? Not nearly as much as when there's rapid population growth.

    For most industries (food, movie theaters, toilet paper, etc) a 2% population increase would mean a roughly 2% increase in demand. For construction and associated industries (mortgage loans, etc) a 2% increase in population could easily mean a 20-30-40% increase in business. Perhaps more. Because without population growth most of what you'd be doing is replacing decaying housing stock.

    That may sound like a great way to "grow" the economy, but to me (and I'm no economist) it seems like the downside to growing your economy in that way is that little if any of the extra economic output is export-oriented. Most of it is disproportionately focused on providing goods and services to the new arrivals. Which seems like it would mean a lot more borrowing and a lot more debt. Indeed of the countries with the largest trade deficits four of them (the USA, the UK, Australia, & Canada) are all Anglo countries with very high rates of immigration. Three of those countries (all but the UK) have both very well educated populations and are resource rich relative to their population size.

    But Canada's and Australia's populations each grew by around in just two years and the US and UK are each growing quite rapidly, as well. Our economies are certainly growing, but our debts appear to be growing even faster. It's insanity.

    It’s insanity.

    Indeed!

    Welcome to “Chimerica” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimerica !

    SNN – Chimerica, what it means and it’s function of impact

  36. Anonymous[341] • Disclaimer says:

    No, Steve, didn’t you know that the High Priests of The Economist magazine hath decreed that the ‘law of supply and demand’ does not apply in the particular case of non white persons immigrating to lands which have a white majority.

    Thus goes the Pontifical Diktat – and therefore thus obeyeth the politicians.

    Although it has been rumored that the Conclave of Economist Pontiffs have declared the ‘law of gravity’ null and void – you see, it doesn’t agree with Economist will regarding border fence jumpers and their divine rights, not many volunteers, it seems, are willing to try the practical experiment.

  37. @Hypnotoad666
    100% correct. Capital always benefits from immigration, which both lowers the cost of labor as an input to production and also increases the demand for that same output.

    One wrinkle, however, might be the extent to which foreign capital also moves in to take away any excess returns to domestic capital owners. Also, the expectation of future immigration may already be baked into the current price of some items, like Southern California real estate.

    The fundamental contradiction – as Karl Marx pointed out all those years ago – is that as wages inevitably tend to zero, in the scenario of unlimited labor supply – purchasing power and thus demand and capital formation – tends to zero in lockstep.

  38. @Hypnotoad666
    All around LA you see little round brown women bustling along with their kids, going to work or shopping from their rented garages, spare rooms or shared apartments.

    These (mostly) Central American immigrants are technically very poor. But they don't seem or act the least bit depressed, resentful or oppressed. Indeed, given where they came from, they probably feel like they have hit the Mother Load by living on the cheap in LA.

    The poverty of LA's immigrant neighborhoods therefore has a completely different feel than, say, dysfunctional black ghettos, or the sole crushing desperation of homeless people. The immigrants strike me as though they are probably a good bit happier and better adjusted than the average neurotic white Angeleno.

    Whether they become a resentful underclass in subsequent generations, I don't know.

    But whatever problems Latin immigration brings to America we can at least be thankful we aren't being invaded by Africans and Muslims. That would be a whole other kettle of fish.

    ‘Hit the Mother load’.

    Well, by the looks of things, Hillary Clinton dropped a ‘mother load’ the other day.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Thanks for covering for Reg Caesar, #750. I still think you got it wrong. Mrs. Rodham dropped the Mother of all Loads back, what, 75 years ago?
  39. @Anonymous
    Where the hell is HUD? You can cram 30 people into a 3 bedroom house if you own it, and all 30 are your family.

    Renting is totally different. Two people per bedroom is the maximum HUD allows by law, and these motels are not exempt either. These slumlords are breaking the law. The local HUD office is completely derelict and complicit. Where is sleepy Benzo Carson? Send in the damn feds.

    The laws pertaining to this set of circumstances are generally state and local codes. In the (very liberal) jurisdiction I used to live in, such laws were simply never applied to latinos. They even had their own ‘department within a department’ at every level of local government, staffed with (you guessed it) more latinos.

    For anyone to notice something like ten cars in what used to be a front garden, or scores of filthy, half-clothed urchins running about in traffic, or suddenly overcrowded and under-performing schools and hospitals, well you’d have to be a deplorable racist even to raise an eyebrow.

    Fact is (as others have observed here) the Goodwhites were just relieved that we weren’t full of blacks like that other jurisdiction on the other side of the river. They have it even worse. Rather than DWIs w/o license or insurance, and regular molestations of underage relations, they have nightly multiple shootings. That is worse, isn’t it? Hard to keep track nowadays.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    That's a very good way to describe the Anarcho-tyranny, Mr. McKenna, coming soon to a neighborhood or workplace near all of us. I tried to explain to Ron Unz how the illegal aliens live under a different, and much easier, "justice" system, but the stats don't cover that, so .... ??
  40. @Wilkey
    I meant to type: "But Canada’s and Australia’s populations each grew by around 6% in just two years."

    Uncontrolled growth is not characteristic of healthy organisms.
    It’s characteristic of cancers.

  41. @Anatoly Karlin
    Paolo Bacigalupi's Water Knife paints a dystopian picture of the mid-21st century Southwest in which mega-corporations control all the water and ordinary people struggle to survive amidst mass desertification, water shortages, and gang turf wars.

    I suppose it's not the most implausible scenario, but I'm not sure that water shortages would be the actual primary culprit.

    William Knustler assures us the cheap energy will run out any day now. No AC, no cheap water pumping, so almost no one living there.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    William Knustler assures us the cheap energy will run out any day now.
     
    Do you think there's anything to that?
  42. “….Pfister faucets….. Made in Mexico.” So are we going to see articles about the need for more protectionism, rather than free trade?

  43. An American colleague and I took the train to the airport one day, passing what Germans call Schrebergärten, and he asked me, “How can people live like this?”

    Well, for most of them, it’s just an allotment they tend to on weekends or evenings, though some people do live in these things, and many grow quite a bit of produce in their allotment.

    Some enterprising soul in the US should start setting aside land and garden shacks for our poor.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Some enterprising soul in the US should start setting aside land and garden shacks for our poor.
     
    There are plenty of these "community gardens" around here. I haven't heard of any0ne living in one yet, but that's just our climate at work.

    And what's with the Portuguese flag?
  44. Much of SoCal’s historic high standard of living for factory workers and engineers had been subsidized by taxpayers in other states.

    This is the most outrageous slander against the beautiful blue folk of California who I am repeatedly and loudly assured have been keeping all these craptastic red states afloat economically for decades.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    I get your sarcasm there, O.O., but I don't agree completely with Steve's take. Though a large portion of aerospace is/was supported by taxpayer dollars, there was still Donald Douglas and the Long Beach plants manufacturing plants producing the first viable passenger carrying aircraft* right up throught the DC-10/MD-11 widebodies. Well, that's gone now (or are they still making KC-10's there?). The precision engineering and machine work involved in government-supported aero carried over into lots of other areas too.

    It was a hell of a big Mother Load (!) of manufacturing human capital - all that engineering and technical knowledge and talent, that has mostly dissipated. It was worth an infinite times more to America than all of that movie industry.


    * The DC-3 was the first to be able to make money JUST carrying people, not supported by the mail freight.
  45. @Anonymous
    “... for the kids, this was no temporary setback. This was life, dragging belongings from one place to the next, tethered to problems they didn’t create. …”
    They didn’t create the problems but their mom sure did. What in the world possesses someone to bring 4 kids into the world with no plan to take care of them? Her first child was born right after the economy crashed? And that seemed like such a good idea that she had 3 more? Does it ever occur to Steve Lopez that readers might be wondering about this as well? Reporters never ask about the kids’ father(s)? There must have been some kind of man in her life as recently as 21 months ago.
    I’m so depressed

    “I’m so depressed”

    But that mother of four isn’t. Depressed people tend not to have children.

    “with no plan to take care of them”

    US taxpayers will take care of them, and educate them, and give them healthcare.

  46. @Reg Cæsar

    ...far more people cope with cramped, inadequate, barely affordable housing.
     
    Yeah, garages suck. Even in warm climates.

    When I lived in LA lots of people were upgrading the doors on the 2 car garages in suburban houses. The old wooden doors would then be piled high onto an old truck and driven south to Tijuana where four of them would be used to make the four walls of a “dwelling” with corrugated iron making the roof. Cold in winter and hot in summer.

  47. The end of the Cold War hit L.A. hard. Much of SoCal’s historic high standard of living for factory workers and engineers had been subsidized by taxpayers in other states.”

    One aspect that isn’t much noticed in LA’s decline as a bastion for solid middle class working families is the role of outsourcing (as it hit most of the US), starting with the early ’90’s with NAFTA. Obviously this coincided with the end of the Cold War, (as well as the closing of many CA Armed Forces bases) but this aspect should be emphasized more than it has been. For all his warts, flaws, and craziness, Ross Perrot was correct: NAFTA was a bad deal for the US pertaining to middle class jobs and the creation of families.

    Would it be too much of a stretch to suggest a connection between the later ’90’s beginning of the opioid crisis (and White Death) and such free trade deals as NAFTA?

  48. I can’t remember the precise figures, but I remember reading that immigrant households from Latin America on average have a household income of like $32,000 per year, or only 60% or so of the national average and obviously much lower than the average in high-cost places like LA…further, that their children tend to only do a bit better economically, with a household income of like $35,000 per year.

    Seems to me a key argument against mass immigration – legal or not – is that in an era in which we already have tens of millions of under-educated and under-earning people, the last thing we should be doing is admitting huge numbers of people that all evidence shows will almost certainly remain stuck at the bottom of the economic ladder. A serious and curious media would normally fulfill that function.

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    A serious and curious media would normally fulfill that function.
     
    Which is why we have neither. You’ve identified the tail that wags that dog.
  49. @JohnnyWalker123

    “I’ve got this friend who bought a four-bedroom house near here,” Pozo said. “He rents each bedroom for $750, and it’s $900 for the bedroom with a bathroom. For the garage, he gets $1,500.”
     
    This is an interesting quote.

    White nationalists often ask why so many Whites don't protest this immigration-driven ethnic and economic dispossession. Some blame "white guilt" or "white empathy" for the lack of protest.

    Here's a more realistic explanation.

    Economics.

    When immigrants come to America, they have to live somewhere. So a homeowner can make a lot of rental money off foreigners who live 10 to a house. A real estate speculator can make a lot of money off immigrants who drive up the demand for housing. A construction contractor can make a lot of money when immigrant labor is used to circumvent native-born union labor.

    How do you think so many retired White Californians got rich? Hard work? Entrepreneurship? Innovation?

    Nope, they got rich by selling/renting their homes for very large amounts of money and moving to Phoenix. If it wasn't for all these foreigners, they wouldn't have gotten so affluent.

    Sure, most Whites don't benefit from any of this, but it's typically those in the middle and bottom of the economic strata that get hammered. Those people aren't well-organized politically. Therefore, they get ignored.

    Who do you think shows up to Republican party fundraisers in affluent Orange County cities like Newport Beach and Laguna Beach? Okie joesixpacks and union men? Nope. It's the real estate developers, financiers, and entrepreneurs. Since these guys make so much money off immigrant laborers and consumers, they tend to be very pro-immigration. Not surprisingly, California Republican politicians (like Governor Reagan) are also pro-immigration.

    It's not surprising why Orange County Republican office holders are usually silent on immigration. Unfortunately, the changing demographics of the OC have now decimated those Republican office holders. However, all those defeated Republicans will now go on to cushy lobbyist jobs in Newport Beach, provided by the various businessmen who they catered to for decades. So they'll end up buying Yachts and beachfront property soon.

    When you look at the situation from an economic perspective, everything makes more sense.

    This situation isn't new. Back 100 years ago, America's Anglo-Protestant elites let in a bunch of Catholic from Ireland and Italy.

    Why? Did they feel "guilt" and "empathy" towards the Catholics?

    No. The Ellis Island immigrants were let in because they worked cheap and were willing to pay more money (relative to the native Anglos) for dilapidated, overcrowded housing.

    However, 100 years ago, American workers were much better-organized and formed unions (like the Knights of Labor) to fight back against their economic marginalization. The White population was also more unified back then, so they also formed lots of ethno-nationalist organizations (like the KKK) to fight back. This is one reason why immigration was curtailed in the 1920s.

    These days, the White population (especially the working-class) is poorly organized and very socially atomized, so it's much harder to fight back.

    If Twitter existed 100 years ago, hashtags related to #unionrights and #KKKmarch would've "trended" quite strongly. These days, it's hashtags about #Steelers and #BlackFridaySales that "trend" the best.

    These days, there are very few poor Whites left anywhere who desire to immigrate to U.S., work cheaply, and live in overcrowded housing. So new immigrant sources are being tapped.

    Precisely this. Way too much of modern day American politics are organized around the benefit of the ownership, capital and rentier class. And that class is getting more and more powerful and is getting less and less likely ever to lose because of cognitive stratification, which dynamically relates to and helps that class.

  50. @JohnnyWalker123

    “I’ve got this friend who bought a four-bedroom house near here,” Pozo said. “He rents each bedroom for $750, and it’s $900 for the bedroom with a bathroom. For the garage, he gets $1,500.”
     
    This is an interesting quote.

    White nationalists often ask why so many Whites don't protest this immigration-driven ethnic and economic dispossession. Some blame "white guilt" or "white empathy" for the lack of protest.

    Here's a more realistic explanation.

    Economics.

    When immigrants come to America, they have to live somewhere. So a homeowner can make a lot of rental money off foreigners who live 10 to a house. A real estate speculator can make a lot of money off immigrants who drive up the demand for housing. A construction contractor can make a lot of money when immigrant labor is used to circumvent native-born union labor.

    How do you think so many retired White Californians got rich? Hard work? Entrepreneurship? Innovation?

    Nope, they got rich by selling/renting their homes for very large amounts of money and moving to Phoenix. If it wasn't for all these foreigners, they wouldn't have gotten so affluent.

    Sure, most Whites don't benefit from any of this, but it's typically those in the middle and bottom of the economic strata that get hammered. Those people aren't well-organized politically. Therefore, they get ignored.

    Who do you think shows up to Republican party fundraisers in affluent Orange County cities like Newport Beach and Laguna Beach? Okie joesixpacks and union men? Nope. It's the real estate developers, financiers, and entrepreneurs. Since these guys make so much money off immigrant laborers and consumers, they tend to be very pro-immigration. Not surprisingly, California Republican politicians (like Governor Reagan) are also pro-immigration.

    It's not surprising why Orange County Republican office holders are usually silent on immigration. Unfortunately, the changing demographics of the OC have now decimated those Republican office holders. However, all those defeated Republicans will now go on to cushy lobbyist jobs in Newport Beach, provided by the various businessmen who they catered to for decades. So they'll end up buying Yachts and beachfront property soon.

    When you look at the situation from an economic perspective, everything makes more sense.

    This situation isn't new. Back 100 years ago, America's Anglo-Protestant elites let in a bunch of Catholic from Ireland and Italy.

    Why? Did they feel "guilt" and "empathy" towards the Catholics?

    No. The Ellis Island immigrants were let in because they worked cheap and were willing to pay more money (relative to the native Anglos) for dilapidated, overcrowded housing.

    However, 100 years ago, American workers were much better-organized and formed unions (like the Knights of Labor) to fight back against their economic marginalization. The White population was also more unified back then, so they also formed lots of ethno-nationalist organizations (like the KKK) to fight back. This is one reason why immigration was curtailed in the 1920s.

    These days, the White population (especially the working-class) is poorly organized and very socially atomized, so it's much harder to fight back.

    If Twitter existed 100 years ago, hashtags related to #unionrights and #KKKmarch would've "trended" quite strongly. These days, it's hashtags about #Steelers and #BlackFridaySales that "trend" the best.

    These days, there are very few poor Whites left anywhere who desire to immigrate to U.S., work cheaply, and live in overcrowded housing. So new immigrant sources are being tapped.

    There aren’t a lot of lucrative republican lobbying jobs in a place like California. The thinking by those republican politicians was as shortsighted as it seemed.

  51. What you describe has been happening in the Midwest for decades. What do you guess was previously made at the Ford City Shopping Center in Chicago? Welcome to the Rust Belt!

    • Replies: @Forbes
    When the Midwest turned into the Rust Belt, prog-lefties thought it a fitting come down e.g., for Republican-dominated states, and auto and other manufacturing, as dinosaurs. For prog-lefty world, it was a sign of progress.

    Now that it's similarly noticed in California, it's anything but a sign of progress.
  52. @Hypnotoad666
    All around LA you see little round brown women bustling along with their kids, going to work or shopping from their rented garages, spare rooms or shared apartments.

    These (mostly) Central American immigrants are technically very poor. But they don't seem or act the least bit depressed, resentful or oppressed. Indeed, given where they came from, they probably feel like they have hit the Mother Load by living on the cheap in LA.

    The poverty of LA's immigrant neighborhoods therefore has a completely different feel than, say, dysfunctional black ghettos, or the sole crushing desperation of homeless people. The immigrants strike me as though they are probably a good bit happier and better adjusted than the average neurotic white Angeleno.

    Whether they become a resentful underclass in subsequent generations, I don't know.

    But whatever problems Latin immigration brings to America we can at least be thankful we aren't being invaded by Africans and Muslims. That would be a whole other kettle of fish.

    I don’t think it would take much for Hispanics to “rediscover” their arabic heritage.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t think it would take much for Hispanics to “rediscover” their arabic heritage.
     
    The Arabs sat on Iberia for some 700 years. That explains a lot.

    For one thing, nobody in Christendom outside of Hispanophone lands would dare name their son "Jesus". But Arabs do it all the time.
  53. @Arclight
    I can't remember the precise figures, but I remember reading that immigrant households from Latin America on average have a household income of like $32,000 per year, or only 60% or so of the national average and obviously much lower than the average in high-cost places like LA...further, that their children tend to only do a bit better economically, with a household income of like $35,000 per year.

    Seems to me a key argument against mass immigration - legal or not - is that in an era in which we already have tens of millions of under-educated and under-earning people, the last thing we should be doing is admitting huge numbers of people that all evidence shows will almost certainly remain stuck at the bottom of the economic ladder. A serious and curious media would normally fulfill that function.

    A serious and curious media would normally fulfill that function.

    Which is why we have neither. You’ve identified the tail that wags that dog.

    • Agree: Forbes
  54. The end of the Cold War hit L.A. hard. Much of SoCal’s historic high standard of living for factory workers and engineers had been subsidized by taxpayers in other states.

    How do you spell Loughhead in English?

    Many miles away

    Something crawls and takes wing from Kitty Hawk

    At the bottom of a dark Scottish lake

    Many miles away

    There’s a couple of World Wars and a Cold War

    And California on the Pacific shore

    Of a name of a landmark by a dark Scottish lake

    Many miles away, many miles away

  55. You know what’s infuriating? Those multiple family house rentals are almost always against zoning laws. If the county would enforce zoning laws, those houses would be on the market, either at reasonable prices for single family rentals or being sold at reasonable prices for single family houses.

    But they break the law, giving immigrants who would otherwise not be able to support living in the country a way to barely get by, all the while driving up housing prices for the next tier up–who has nowhere to go and no one willing to break the law for them.

    • Replies: @dwb
    You raise a terrific point. Here in the SF Bay area, it's always "the rent is too damned high," and the blame is always ascribed to "tech bros" - young tech workers. The presumption is always that these tech workers are guys who just got out of the University of Illinois after four years in Beta Theta Pi. There is actually a lot of ink about how they are "displacing immigrant communities."

    I really have no idea how one lives with such cognitive dissonance.

    My first house was in central San Jose in what was in those days called a "transitional" neighborhood. It had been a very nice, planned community in the early 20th century, but with the coming of the freeways, the larger, older houses were converted to apartments. The tell-tale signs of an old Victorian with fire escapes clad to the sides were unmistakable. But by and by, the area was being re-settled so to speak, and in fact, my Congress Creep Zoe Lofgren lived about three blocks away in recaptured territory.

    The city had battled with the problem by at first preventing people paving over their entire land to accommodate the multiple cars that 6 adults in a four bedroom house would have. They then passed a further ordinance about parking on unpaved areas.

    Across the street was a Craftsman bungalow built around 1910 or so, with I have no idea how many unrelated adults living in it. From time to time, I dropped a dime on code enforcement, who would come and ticket the cars parked illegally on the front. A few weeks would go by where the residents complied, and then the 1982 Accords with blue number plates would creep back on the lawn, and the process would repeat.

    20 years ago, code enforcement were super responsive. These days, I bet they aren't.
  56. The online NY Times now has a feature called “the Comment of the Moment” , where right in the middle of a news story they will insert a bubble quoting from one of the reader comments that they have chosen as a favorite ( a “Times Pick”) . In today’s story about the gathering of criminals on the border, the “Comment of the Moment” was (for a moment) the following:

    With everything these immigrants have gone through, I am sure that many would become very successful integrating into the fabric of American society and given the opportunity, many of those little kids wearing rags and flips flaps could become doctors, lawyers or teachers. I pray and hope I get to hear their success stories one day. – Patricia Gonzalez
    Costa Rica

    Yes, all those Central American Indios are future Salks and Sabins, every one of them, despite the fact that hardly any of them have ever shown any promise in 500 years of contact with the West. Perhaps Patricia could persuade the government of Costa Rica to take in these future geniuses so that the people of her country could enjoy the scientific breakthroughs instead?

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Forbes
    The NYT posting a supportive comment of the migrant caravan crashing the US border, as written from Costa Rica. The NYT is indistinguishable from parody.

    Another exhibit for my bleating that the prog-left completely lacks self-awareness.
  57. This article is just more proof that our insane immigration policies since 1965 have been importing poverty and revolution.

  58. The title gave me a funny thought – take one of those “evolution of man” illustrations that starts with a chimpanzee and ends with modern man, and swap in a squat Central American indio for the chimpanzee, and Ricardo Montalban in full sartorial splendor for modern man. Maybe Cheech Marin could be the midway point.

    Call it “Magic Dirt: One Man’s Journey” or somesuch.

  59. @skill(mostly)
    American cities don't seem to survive an industry or two breaking away. Guess that's because of hyperspecialization. (no more cars, no more Detroit; no more Cold War, no more North Hills)
    They are small, nearly isolated nodes in a wide unconnected empty space (or worse yet, Los Angeles).
    So very fragile.
    European cities and towns tend to do better, having grown more organically and being embedded economically and culturally in a dense network of close neighbouring towns. Antifragile (hopefully anyway).

    Newton, Iowa survived the acquisition of Maytag by Whirlpool and the closing of both the manufacturing facilities and corporate headquarters. But as you explain, Newton was a part of a network of other small towns. (Okay, Newton, Iowa is hardly a city, but the principle is the same.) Newton is still probably about 95% white. But even in Newton there are storm clouds on the horizon: the wind turbine plant is bussing in Africans (Somalians? Sudanese?) to work in a plant that once built washing machines, dryers and dishwashers and was organized by the UAW.

  60. Arrangements like LA do work well for capital. There is literally no other reason it is being pushed. If there was an abundant,capable, growing and compliant white work force immigration would not be an issue.
    The reality is the white working class is a basket case. There are hard problems that need solving: serious drug addiction, awful work ethic and welfare addiction stand out. While it is a joke to say we need more immigrants in places like LA there are significant parts of the country that actually would grind to a halt without foreign workers.
    Until people get that finance needs increasing numbers year on year to stay upright immigration will never be solved.

  61. @Anonymous
    @SteveSailer
    A bit of divergence but you might be interested!

    When you mass import the third world, you mass import their "culture" even in the case of [purported] "highly accomplished" immigrants like this "perfessor", deep in the heart of red america! Any food for thought? There are tons of cases like these to kick the case for "legal immigration" [read Indian and Chinese] to the curb. Please put it on your blog.

    A "highly accomplished professor" uses his ethnic Indian students for such "intellectual pursuits" as trimming his lawn, watching his dog and shoveling snow! Perhaps female students were even given a further "taste" of his "intellect"!

    And this guy has been living here since the 90s apparently. Culture has a deep imprint on the psyche so no matter how many more years he lives here, he'll always be an Indian [dot] deep down and will revert to it the moment he relaxes his guard

    When Kuchimanchi once told Mitra he wouldn’t be a servant, “he threatened to kick me out of the university and force me to lose my visa and lose everything. That was his ammo. Either fall in line or you would be thrown out. You didn’t want to be in that situation where you have to go back home empty-handed.” So he continued to do what Mitra asked.

    I expect it’s not much different in those companies that hire Indians on H1-B visas.

  62. @Oleaginous Outrager

    Much of SoCal’s historic high standard of living for factory workers and engineers had been subsidized by taxpayers in other states.
     
    This is the most outrageous slander against the beautiful blue folk of California who I am repeatedly and loudly assured have been keeping all these craptastic red states afloat economically for decades.

    I get your sarcasm there, O.O., but I don’t agree completely with Steve’s take. Though a large portion of aerospace is/was supported by taxpayer dollars, there was still Donald Douglas and the Long Beach plants manufacturing plants producing the first viable passenger carrying aircraft* right up throught the DC-10/MD-11 widebodies. Well, that’s gone now (or are they still making KC-10’s there?). The precision engineering and machine work involved in government-supported aero carried over into lots of other areas too.

    It was a hell of a big Mother Load (!) of manufacturing human capital – all that engineering and technical knowledge and talent, that has mostly dissipated. It was worth an infinite times more to America than all of that movie industry.

    * The DC-3 was the first to be able to make money JUST carrying people, not supported by the mail freight.

    • Replies: @anon
    I saw a lengthy documentary on the 747.

    It was 10 years old so they didn't bother pretending it was developed by a diverse team of engineers or the janitor.

    Its getting close to 50 years old and still works. No major US crashes in US this century.
  63. @Mr McKenna
    The laws pertaining to this set of circumstances are generally state and local codes. In the (very liberal) jurisdiction I used to live in, such laws were simply never applied to latinos. They even had their own 'department within a department' at every level of local government, staffed with (you guessed it) more latinos.

    For anyone to notice something like ten cars in what used to be a front garden, or scores of filthy, half-clothed urchins running about in traffic, or suddenly overcrowded and under-performing schools and hospitals, well you'd have to be a deplorable racist even to raise an eyebrow.

    Fact is (as others have observed here) the Goodwhites were just relieved that we weren't full of blacks like that other jurisdiction on the other side of the river. They have it even worse. Rather than DWIs w/o license or insurance, and regular molestations of underage relations, they have nightly multiple shootings. That is worse, isn't it? Hard to keep track nowadays.

    That’s a very good way to describe the Anarcho-tyranny, Mr. McKenna, coming soon to a neighborhood or workplace near all of us. I tried to explain to Ron Unz how the illegal aliens live under a different, and much easier, “justice” system, but the stats don’t cover that, so …. ??

    • Replies: @GermanReader2
    Victor Davis Hanson frequently wrote about this in his columns.
  64. @Reg Cæsar

    Slumlords braking the law...
     
    Now there's an eggcorn that makes sense. Decelerating enforcement.

    Is this engine braking, or anti-lock?

    Yet, you missed the Mother Load, but caught this one? You’re slipping, Reg.

    BTW, I explained one time to Mr. Derbyshire how these homonym errors come in when one thinks of words via sound in the head while typing. I’ve done it to, know, two, w8, too many times too count myself. It’s easily caught upon proofreading.

  65. @Anonymous
    'Hit the Mother load'.

    Well, by the looks of things, Hillary Clinton dropped a 'mother load' the other day.

    Thanks for covering for Reg Caesar, #750. I still think you got it wrong. Mrs. Rodham dropped the Mother of all Loads back, what, 75 years ago?

    • Replies: @The Alarmist

    "Mrs. Rodham dropped the Mother of all Loads back, what, 75 years ago?"
     
    Not to mention the Demon Spawn of the union of that Mother Load and Billy Bob; I regret to think we have not seen the last of the Demon Spawn.
  66. @Anonymous

    So that’s $4,650 in rent per month, assuming you can have 100% occupancy.
     
    That seems like a lot of money for monthly rent! Who is paying it?

    Also, why does the garage fetch more than the rooms?

    I looked into renting a parking space for my son who would commute to UC Berkeley. $200/month to park in a driveway close to campus, free from fear of parking tickets. And of course, this is just a commuter, so no overnighters and few weekends.

  67. What kind of lack of self awareness does it take to print an article in which someone named Lopez quotes people named Tejeda, Guiterezz and Pozo complaining about how mass Latino immigration is ruining the old neighborhood?
    Frankly, I found the whole piece quite “rayciss”.

  68. @Anonymous
    “... for the kids, this was no temporary setback. This was life, dragging belongings from one place to the next, tethered to problems they didn’t create. …”
    They didn’t create the problems but their mom sure did. What in the world possesses someone to bring 4 kids into the world with no plan to take care of them? Her first child was born right after the economy crashed? And that seemed like such a good idea that she had 3 more? Does it ever occur to Steve Lopez that readers might be wondering about this as well? Reporters never ask about the kids’ father(s)? There must have been some kind of man in her life as recently as 21 months ago.
    I’m so depressed

    Impulsive behavior and minimal smarts leads to some pretty dreary outcomes. I was talking to a woman I know who works in landscaping with her husband. She’s half Navajo and he’s Mexican. They had their first baby when she was 13 and he 16. Were her parents outraged? She just shrugged. Then they went on to have 7 more babies together (and eventually marrying and getting him citizenship).

    so 8 kids in absolute poverty, with minimal education and only gardening skills. Think they’ve had a tough life? You bet. None of their kids are procreating, interestingly.

    • Replies: @GermanReader2
    Some time ago Steve wrote about a Hispanic couple living in LA who had 10 (!) kids and the man had a minimum pay of 400 dollars a week. If it weren't so bad for our future, it would be hilarious. I highly recommend reading the article "4 + 6 = 1 tenuous situation" and Steve's great remarks about them.
    , @Anonymous
    Where do they live?
  69. Welcome to the Third World! Once you join the club, there’s no turning back!

  70. @Wilkey
    Property developers, real-estate agencies and construction firms benefit from the boost to building associated with population growth

    How much new home and retail construction would there be if the population size were stable? Not nearly as much as when there's rapid population growth.

    For most industries (food, movie theaters, toilet paper, etc) a 2% population increase would mean a roughly 2% increase in demand. For construction and associated industries (mortgage loans, etc) a 2% increase in population could easily mean a 20-30-40% increase in business. Perhaps more. Because without population growth most of what you'd be doing is replacing decaying housing stock.

    That may sound like a great way to "grow" the economy, but to me (and I'm no economist) it seems like the downside to growing your economy in that way is that little if any of the extra economic output is export-oriented. Most of it is disproportionately focused on providing goods and services to the new arrivals. Which seems like it would mean a lot more borrowing and a lot more debt. Indeed of the countries with the largest trade deficits four of them (the USA, the UK, Australia, & Canada) are all Anglo countries with very high rates of immigration. Three of those countries (all but the UK) have both very well educated populations and are resource rich relative to their population size.

    But Canada's and Australia's populations each grew by around in just two years and the US and UK are each growing quite rapidly, as well. Our economies are certainly growing, but our debts appear to be growing even faster. It's insanity.

    How much new home and retail construction would there be if the population size were stable? Not nearly as much as when there’s rapid population growth.

    There’s something else going on, too: the cost of fuel. In 2008, the housing that collapsed most severely in price was all the easy-to-develop places in the exurban fringe. Most have not recovered to pre-2008 status. The fundamental issue is that there aren’t close-in development opportunities anymore. When you’re driving 100 miles a day to your job in an SUV that averages 25mpg, at $4 a gallon that’s about $350 a month in gas alone.

    These families are overcrowding closer in, where they have shorter travel or buses they can take to work downtown LA. Expect to see more creation of slums (which originally meant overcrowding, nothing racial) as population continues to flood in to the USA. It’s the only way it’s affordable.

  71. @Anatoly Karlin
    Paolo Bacigalupi's Water Knife paints a dystopian picture of the mid-21st century Southwest in which mega-corporations control all the water and ordinary people struggle to survive amidst mass desertification, water shortages, and gang turf wars.

    I suppose it's not the most implausible scenario, but I'm not sure that water shortages would be the actual primary culprit.

    There’s nothing new or implausible there, it’s been going on for a couple of decades elsewhere.

    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2009/06/20/thirst-profit-corporate-control-water-latin-america

  72. @education realist
    You know what's infuriating? Those multiple family house rentals are almost always against zoning laws. If the county would enforce zoning laws, those houses would be on the market, either at reasonable prices for single family rentals or being sold at reasonable prices for single family houses.

    But they break the law, giving immigrants who would otherwise not be able to support living in the country a way to barely get by, all the while driving up housing prices for the next tier up--who has nowhere to go and no one willing to break the law for them.

    You raise a terrific point. Here in the SF Bay area, it’s always “the rent is too damned high,” and the blame is always ascribed to “tech bros” – young tech workers. The presumption is always that these tech workers are guys who just got out of the University of Illinois after four years in Beta Theta Pi. There is actually a lot of ink about how they are “displacing immigrant communities.”

    I really have no idea how one lives with such cognitive dissonance.

    My first house was in central San Jose in what was in those days called a “transitional” neighborhood. It had been a very nice, planned community in the early 20th century, but with the coming of the freeways, the larger, older houses were converted to apartments. The tell-tale signs of an old Victorian with fire escapes clad to the sides were unmistakable. But by and by, the area was being re-settled so to speak, and in fact, my Congress Creep Zoe Lofgren lived about three blocks away in recaptured territory.

    The city had battled with the problem by at first preventing people paving over their entire land to accommodate the multiple cars that 6 adults in a four bedroom house would have. They then passed a further ordinance about parking on unpaved areas.

    Across the street was a Craftsman bungalow built around 1910 or so, with I have no idea how many unrelated adults living in it. From time to time, I dropped a dime on code enforcement, who would come and ticket the cars parked illegally on the front. A few weeks would go by where the residents complied, and then the 1982 Accords with blue number plates would creep back on the lawn, and the process would repeat.

    20 years ago, code enforcement were super responsive. These days, I bet they aren’t.

  73. @Buffalo Joe
    Every child in the Buffalo Public School System qualifies for a free lunch. Of course a lot don't really qualify but why shame the poor kids who do. Today's Buffalo News features a story about the fact that there are 83 languages spoken by students in BPS. Spanish is the most common followed by Arabic, Karen, Somali, Burmese, Swahili, Bengali and Nepali. With the exception of 50 bi-lingual Spanish teachers there are no bi-lingual teachers for the other languages. The district employs 200 English teachers who, according to the article, use other strategies to teach English. State law reportedly requires a bilingual teacher if there are 20 or more students in a grade that are non English speakers. I foresee a dark future for most of these children.

    The students will acquire English because they need it–motivation is a great teacher.

    A local adolescent is an Arab-speaking Yemeni (son of a shopkeeper) who went from no English to conversational English in about a year. I can’t address his schoolwork, but his language acquisition was impressive.

    As a youngster, I became a good friend with a new classmate who’d returned from a year in France speaking fluent French–his father was an engineering professor teaching in France for a year.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Forbes, When I worked in Columbia I arrived with a few memorized phrases. The need to order food and find your way around accelerates the learning process. Thanks for the reply.
  74. @Hypnotoad666
    All around LA you see little round brown women bustling along with their kids, going to work or shopping from their rented garages, spare rooms or shared apartments.

    These (mostly) Central American immigrants are technically very poor. But they don't seem or act the least bit depressed, resentful or oppressed. Indeed, given where they came from, they probably feel like they have hit the Mother Load by living on the cheap in LA.

    The poverty of LA's immigrant neighborhoods therefore has a completely different feel than, say, dysfunctional black ghettos, or the sole crushing desperation of homeless people. The immigrants strike me as though they are probably a good bit happier and better adjusted than the average neurotic white Angeleno.

    Whether they become a resentful underclass in subsequent generations, I don't know.

    But whatever problems Latin immigration brings to America we can at least be thankful we aren't being invaded by Africans and Muslims. That would be a whole other kettle of fish.

    at least be thankful we aren’t being invaded by Africans and Muslims.

    If only that were true.

  75. @Mike Zwick
    What you describe has been happening in the Midwest for decades. What do you guess was previously made at the Ford City Shopping Center in Chicago? Welcome to the Rust Belt!

    When the Midwest turned into the Rust Belt, prog-lefties thought it a fitting come down e.g., for Republican-dominated states, and auto and other manufacturing, as dinosaurs. For prog-lefty world, it was a sign of progress.

    Now that it’s similarly noticed in California, it’s anything but a sign of progress.

  76. @Jack D
    The online NY Times now has a feature called "the Comment of the Moment" , where right in the middle of a news story they will insert a bubble quoting from one of the reader comments that they have chosen as a favorite ( a "Times Pick") . In today's story about the gathering of criminals on the border, the "Comment of the Moment" was (for a moment) the following:

    With everything these immigrants have gone through, I am sure that many would become very successful integrating into the fabric of American society and given the opportunity, many of those little kids wearing rags and flips flaps could become doctors, lawyers or teachers. I pray and hope I get to hear their success stories one day. - Patricia Gonzalez
    Costa Rica
     
    Yes, all those Central American Indios are future Salks and Sabins, every one of them, despite the fact that hardly any of them have ever shown any promise in 500 years of contact with the West. Perhaps Patricia could persuade the government of Costa Rica to take in these future geniuses so that the people of her country could enjoy the scientific breakthroughs instead?

    The NYT posting a supportive comment of the migrant caravan crashing the US border, as written from Costa Rica. The NYT is indistinguishable from parody.

    Another exhibit for my bleating that the prog-left completely lacks self-awareness.

  77. @International Jew
    A dozen tenants living in your home will cost you a lot in wear and tear. Even if $4500/month will pay for that, it'll be a close call.

    If you bought the house for $175,000 30 years ago and only make enough repairs to keep the place standing you can still make a good profit.

    You may be right in some cases though. My wife used to watch Flip or Flop on HGTV and I saw a few episodes where they bought trashed foreclosures. I didn’t occur to me until reading this article that those properties very well could have been rented out to illegals.

  78. @Achmed E. Newman
    That's a very good way to describe the Anarcho-tyranny, Mr. McKenna, coming soon to a neighborhood or workplace near all of us. I tried to explain to Ron Unz how the illegal aliens live under a different, and much easier, "justice" system, but the stats don't cover that, so .... ??

    Victor Davis Hanson frequently wrote about this in his columns.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Yeah, I used to read him, but I can't remember on which blog it was.

    Are you any kin to GermanReader, BTW? I liked that guy. Maybe you know him from living in Germany with him. ;-}
    , @Mr McKenna
    Thanks for the ref. Never even heard of him before. Now reading.
  79. @stillCARealist
    Impulsive behavior and minimal smarts leads to some pretty dreary outcomes. I was talking to a woman I know who works in landscaping with her husband. She's half Navajo and he's Mexican. They had their first baby when she was 13 and he 16. Were her parents outraged? She just shrugged. Then they went on to have 7 more babies together (and eventually marrying and getting him citizenship).

    so 8 kids in absolute poverty, with minimal education and only gardening skills. Think they've had a tough life? You bet. None of their kids are procreating, interestingly.

    Some time ago Steve wrote about a Hispanic couple living in LA who had 10 (!) kids and the man had a minimum pay of 400 dollars a week. If it weren’t so bad for our future, it would be hilarious. I highly recommend reading the article “4 + 6 = 1 tenuous situation” and Steve’s great remarks about them.

  80. @Redneck farmer
    William Knustler assures us the cheap energy will run out any day now. No AC, no cheap water pumping, so almost no one living there.

    William Knustler assures us the cheap energy will run out any day now.

    Do you think there’s anything to that?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Something, but 1.It's a lot further off than he thinks. 2. We're getting better at cranking out renewables.
  81. @stillCARealist
    Impulsive behavior and minimal smarts leads to some pretty dreary outcomes. I was talking to a woman I know who works in landscaping with her husband. She's half Navajo and he's Mexican. They had their first baby when she was 13 and he 16. Were her parents outraged? She just shrugged. Then they went on to have 7 more babies together (and eventually marrying and getting him citizenship).

    so 8 kids in absolute poverty, with minimal education and only gardening skills. Think they've had a tough life? You bet. None of their kids are procreating, interestingly.

    Where do they live?

  82. @Flip
    If you import low IQ poor people, you are going to have a low IQ, poor population.

    "A Scandinavian economist once proudly said to free-market advocate Milton Friedman, “In Scandinavia we have no poverty.” And Milton Friedman replied, “That’s interesting, because in America among Scandinavians, we have no poverty, either.”"
    -P.J. O’Rourke, in Eat The Rich

    If you import low IQ poor people, you are going to have a low IQ, poor population.

    This is why conservatives can not just be about “secure border” and “rule of law” even though those two things are absolutely critical and political winners.

    To actually win–have a nation that’s worth a damn–we must take on the whole Jewish minoritarian/anti-national project and propaganda–“racist!”, “eugenics”, “Hitler!”–directly.

    When a putz like Brian Schatt’s is doing the usual whining about someone saying “Anglo-American”, he must be countered and the point punched home. Yes, that is our heritage and that is precisely why America is (or at least was) a great prosperous and free placeand all these other people are dumping their home nations and trying to get into ours.

    America is great because it was a piece of high quality resource rich real estate conquered and settled, by Anglo-Saxons–and other NW Europeans under Anglo-Saxon cultural norms. It’s not great because “the Constitution”, it’s not prosperous from slave labor, it’s certainly not great because “nation of immigrants”. No America was great because (high IQ, conscientious) productive people met productive land. The other anglo-sphere nations–Cananda, Australia, New Zealand–with different political systems and histories are also very nice prosperous places for the same core reasons.

    America is great, because it was white.

    But you are what you “eat”. You take in English–you’ll be more like England. Take in Irish–you’ll be more like Ireland. Germans–more like Germany. Italians–more like Italy. Chinese–more like China. Indians–more like India. Mexicans–more like Mexico. Salvadorans–more like El Salvador. Somalians–more like Somalia.

    I’m a pretty easy going guy. I’m friends with people from a veritable rainbow of nationalities and ethnic/racial groups. But i want America to be what it was–a predominantely white nation with a white culture anchored in the West. And i’m pretty darn sure people didn’t want to change that and we darn sure didn’t have vote. Hands up for everyone who wants us to be more like Honduras? Haiti? Somalia?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Excellent. But when you insist on IQ you will still get loads of people with a very very different culture than ours wanting to displace us.

    As some anon above alluded to, an Indian professor at ukmc, a well established one at that was found engaging in perpetrating a slave system with his students for access to the labs and good grades. I believe he must be high IQ but he comes from a culture of low trust vultures if I may.

    The overall Indian IQ is quite low but the ones who come here I think have very high IQ. This combined with their upbringing in a low trust, dog eat dog place littered with filth makes them a whole lot more dangerous than the Haitian. So when you talk about IQ it is important to have a culture of high trust or else you'd import cunning machiavellists into the country to lord over us. Not very different from what they do back home.
    , @Ed
    Easy to say on a comment board hard to do in practice, politically.

    For example the politician that comes closest to doing as you suggest today is not Trump but Steve King. He has consistently alluded to the supremacy of western civilization and how immigration, multiculturalism harms that.

    For his troubles the Republican Party cut off support and the national media boosted his opponent making it their mission to defeat him. They failed but the damage has been done.

    Trump probably has to win re-election for the worm to turn in the restrictionist favor and even then it’s dicey. The GOP really missed the ball here. Should have been dismantling big immigration piecemeal if nothing else. Eliminating the diversity lottery should have been a slam dunk, nothing.

    Reducing legal immigration by even a quarter should have been done. Instead Ryan wanted tax cuts. Trump has been going alone on immigration restriction with little support and he’s taking hits for that.
    , @Mr McKenna
    I hope your collected works are being saved somewhere.
  83. The end of the Cold War hit L.A. hard.

    My memory of 1990 – 1995 is filled with anxiety because every day my father would arrive home from his job at Northrop and announce, “No pink slip today!” Most of his co-workers were not so lucky, and he would let us know about that, too.

    He saved his family from dire straits by agreeing to commute all the way to El Segundo, the last place Northrop kept a substantial footprint in the L.A. area. A thirty minute commute to Pico Rivera became a 2+ hour commute to LAX for the next twenty years.

  84. @Forbes
    The students will acquire English because they need it--motivation is a great teacher.

    A local adolescent is an Arab-speaking Yemeni (son of a shopkeeper) who went from no English to conversational English in about a year. I can't address his schoolwork, but his language acquisition was impressive.

    As a youngster, I became a good friend with a new classmate who'd returned from a year in France speaking fluent French--his father was an engineering professor teaching in France for a year.

    Forbes, When I worked in Columbia I arrived with a few memorized phrases. The need to order food and find your way around accelerates the learning process. Thanks for the reply.

  85. Anonymous[828] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    If you import low IQ poor people, you are going to have a low IQ, poor population.
     
    This is why conservatives can not just be about "secure border" and "rule of law" even though those two things are absolutely critical and political winners.

    To actually win--have a nation that's worth a damn--we must take on the whole Jewish minoritarian/anti-national project and propaganda--"racist!", "eugenics", "Hitler!"--directly.

    When a putz like Brian Schatt's is doing the usual whining about someone saying "Anglo-American", he must be countered and the point punched home. Yes, that is our heritage and that is precisely why America is (or at least was) a great prosperous and free placeand all these other people are dumping their home nations and trying to get into ours.

    America is great because it was a piece of high quality resource rich real estate conquered and settled, by Anglo-Saxons--and other NW Europeans under Anglo-Saxon cultural norms. It's not great because "the Constitution", it's not prosperous from slave labor, it's certainly not great because "nation of immigrants". No America was great because (high IQ, conscientious) productive people met productive land. The other anglo-sphere nations--Cananda, Australia, New Zealand--with different political systems and histories are also very nice prosperous places for the same core reasons.

    America is great, because it was white.

    But you are what you "eat". You take in English--you'll be more like England. Take in Irish--you'll be more like Ireland. Germans--more like Germany. Italians--more like Italy. Chinese--more like China. Indians--more like India. Mexicans--more like Mexico. Salvadorans--more like El Salvador. Somalians--more like Somalia.

    I'm a pretty easy going guy. I'm friends with people from a veritable rainbow of nationalities and ethnic/racial groups. But i want America to be what it was--a predominantely white nation with a white culture anchored in the West. And i'm pretty darn sure people didn't want to change that and we darn sure didn't have vote. Hands up for everyone who wants us to be more like Honduras? Haiti? Somalia?

    Excellent. But when you insist on IQ you will still get loads of people with a very very different culture than ours wanting to displace us.

    As some anon above alluded to, an Indian professor at ukmc, a well established one at that was found engaging in perpetrating a slave system with his students for access to the labs and good grades. I believe he must be high IQ but he comes from a culture of low trust vultures if I may.

    The overall Indian IQ is quite low but the ones who come here I think have very high IQ. This combined with their upbringing in a low trust, dog eat dog place littered with filth makes them a whole lot more dangerous than the Haitian. So when you talk about IQ it is important to have a culture of high trust or else you’d import cunning machiavellists into the country to lord over us. Not very different from what they do back home.

  86. Look at satellite photos of Mexican neighborhoods in the LA area. Many houses have had two additions added, one over what used to be the front yard, one over the backyard. In some areas, almost all the houses are now like this.

    • Replies: @FKA Max
    Inside Hong Kong’s cage homes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLrFyjGZ9NU

    Just like in Hong Kong Donald Bren http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-caravan-in-a-couple-of-generations/#comment-2641226 , I believe, intentionally created artificial land scarcity in Orange County through land conservation projects, so his remaining property holdings explode in value:


    2. Why does the [Irvine Community Land Trust] ICLT sell the house but never the land?

    Owning the land underneath each home is the way that the ICLT maintains the affordability of the home permanently and ensures that there will always be affordable homes available. Because the land trust owns the land, each homeowner must enter into a ground lease contract with the land trust. The ground lease is an enforceable legal mechanism to ensure that homeowners abide by the restrictions in the ground lease, particularly the restrictions on occupancy and resale of homes.
     
    - http://www.irvineclt.com/about/faq#q2

    High-priced coastal homes have lower tax rates than inland houses due to Prop 13, study finds
    https://www.ocregister.com/2016/12/01/high-priced-coastal-homes-have-lower-tax-rates-than-inland-houses-due-to-prop-13-study-finds/

    The 93,000-acre (380 km2) Irvine Ranch remains the core holding of The Irvine Company. Of the total ranch area, 44,000 acres (180 km2) is retained for development whilst the remainder are preserved as wilderness and recreational preserves collectively known as the Irvine Ranch Natural Landmarks. In August 2014, the Irvine Company announced plans to donate and preserve 2,500 additional acres of land previously approved for housing.[8] The Ranch encompasses almost one fifth of Orange County, from the Pacific Ocean and Newport Harbor, Laguna Beach, and Santa Ana Canyon, to the boundary of the Cleveland National Forest.
     
    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irvine_Company#Operations
  87. @Achmed E. Newman
    I get your sarcasm there, O.O., but I don't agree completely with Steve's take. Though a large portion of aerospace is/was supported by taxpayer dollars, there was still Donald Douglas and the Long Beach plants manufacturing plants producing the first viable passenger carrying aircraft* right up throught the DC-10/MD-11 widebodies. Well, that's gone now (or are they still making KC-10's there?). The precision engineering and machine work involved in government-supported aero carried over into lots of other areas too.

    It was a hell of a big Mother Load (!) of manufacturing human capital - all that engineering and technical knowledge and talent, that has mostly dissipated. It was worth an infinite times more to America than all of that movie industry.


    * The DC-3 was the first to be able to make money JUST carrying people, not supported by the mail freight.

    I saw a lengthy documentary on the 747.

    It was 10 years old so they didn’t bother pretending it was developed by a diverse team of engineers or the janitor.

    Its getting close to 50 years old and still works. No major US crashes in US this century.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Well, the original design is 50 years old, but most of the 747's flying around here are the newer -400s (they'd be freighters or foreign airliners, as the 3 big US carriers ditched their 747s finally end-of-last-year). Then there are many -800's flying around now. You won't see many -200's around these parts, even for Connie Kallita but I'm sure many will live good quiet lives down in S America. They sure are classic airplanes.

    I recommend a book called Wide Body that'd be right up your alley #707. It starts off discussing the B-47 swept-wing bomber, the technology of which was used to develop the 707. The 2nd half or so of the book is about the 74, and all the development problems. It reads as though Boeing bet the company on each of these planes, separately, that is.
    , @Anon
    Every system on the 747 has been upgraded so many times that it's hardly the same plane that debuted 50 years ago. Thank God.

    BTW, I recently did a couple of trans-Pacific flights on 787-9's, and I must say I was a little nervous flying so far on a 2-engine jet made out of plastic.
  88. @JohnnyWalker123

    “I’ve got this friend who bought a four-bedroom house near here,” Pozo said. “He rents each bedroom for $750, and it’s $900 for the bedroom with a bathroom. For the garage, he gets $1,500.”
     
    This is an interesting quote.

    White nationalists often ask why so many Whites don't protest this immigration-driven ethnic and economic dispossession. Some blame "white guilt" or "white empathy" for the lack of protest.

    Here's a more realistic explanation.

    Economics.

    When immigrants come to America, they have to live somewhere. So a homeowner can make a lot of rental money off foreigners who live 10 to a house. A real estate speculator can make a lot of money off immigrants who drive up the demand for housing. A construction contractor can make a lot of money when immigrant labor is used to circumvent native-born union labor.

    How do you think so many retired White Californians got rich? Hard work? Entrepreneurship? Innovation?

    Nope, they got rich by selling/renting their homes for very large amounts of money and moving to Phoenix. If it wasn't for all these foreigners, they wouldn't have gotten so affluent.

    Sure, most Whites don't benefit from any of this, but it's typically those in the middle and bottom of the economic strata that get hammered. Those people aren't well-organized politically. Therefore, they get ignored.

    Who do you think shows up to Republican party fundraisers in affluent Orange County cities like Newport Beach and Laguna Beach? Okie joesixpacks and union men? Nope. It's the real estate developers, financiers, and entrepreneurs. Since these guys make so much money off immigrant laborers and consumers, they tend to be very pro-immigration. Not surprisingly, California Republican politicians (like Governor Reagan) are also pro-immigration.

    It's not surprising why Orange County Republican office holders are usually silent on immigration. Unfortunately, the changing demographics of the OC have now decimated those Republican office holders. However, all those defeated Republicans will now go on to cushy lobbyist jobs in Newport Beach, provided by the various businessmen who they catered to for decades. So they'll end up buying Yachts and beachfront property soon.

    When you look at the situation from an economic perspective, everything makes more sense.

    This situation isn't new. Back 100 years ago, America's Anglo-Protestant elites let in a bunch of Catholic from Ireland and Italy.

    Why? Did they feel "guilt" and "empathy" towards the Catholics?

    No. The Ellis Island immigrants were let in because they worked cheap and were willing to pay more money (relative to the native Anglos) for dilapidated, overcrowded housing.

    However, 100 years ago, American workers were much better-organized and formed unions (like the Knights of Labor) to fight back against their economic marginalization. The White population was also more unified back then, so they also formed lots of ethno-nationalist organizations (like the KKK) to fight back. This is one reason why immigration was curtailed in the 1920s.

    These days, the White population (especially the working-class) is poorly organized and very socially atomized, so it's much harder to fight back.

    If Twitter existed 100 years ago, hashtags related to #unionrights and #KKKmarch would've "trended" quite strongly. These days, it's hashtags about #Steelers and #BlackFridaySales that "trend" the best.

    These days, there are very few poor Whites left anywhere who desire to immigrate to U.S., work cheaply, and live in overcrowded housing. So new immigrant sources are being tapped.

    When you look at the situation from an economic perspective, everything makes more sense.

    Yup. Economics drives poor people to move to places where they can find work, and to live with 16 in a house designed for 4. The only way this can be avoided is to close the borders, enforce housing regulations, and build large numbers of low-rent social housing units.

    The laxity of credit controls on mortgage lending pushes the cost of a home way out of reach of those who live there; they cannot afford even to rent it. The outcome is multiple occupancy, and degeneration to slum conditions. Yet these are the conditions that maximize the rent “earned” from a property. This is why strong regulation is essential to preserving a healthy standard of living. Small government is not necessarily good government – sometimes it is the road to the favela.

  89. @ATBOTL
    Look at satellite photos of Mexican neighborhoods in the LA area. Many houses have had two additions added, one over what used to be the front yard, one over the backyard. In some areas, almost all the houses are now like this.

    Inside Hong Kong’s cage homes

    Just like in Hong Kong Donald Bren http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-caravan-in-a-couple-of-generations/#comment-2641226 , I believe, intentionally created artificial land scarcity in Orange County through land conservation projects, so his remaining property holdings explode in value:

    2. Why does the [Irvine Community Land Trust] ICLT sell the house but never the land?

    Owning the land underneath each home is the way that the ICLT maintains the affordability of the home permanently and ensures that there will always be affordable homes available. Because the land trust owns the land, each homeowner must enter into a ground lease contract with the land trust. The ground lease is an enforceable legal mechanism to ensure that homeowners abide by the restrictions in the ground lease, particularly the restrictions on occupancy and resale of homes.

    http://www.irvineclt.com/about/faq#q2

    High-priced coastal homes have lower tax rates than inland houses due to Prop 13, study finds
    https://www.ocregister.com/2016/12/01/high-priced-coastal-homes-have-lower-tax-rates-than-inland-houses-due-to-prop-13-study-finds/

    The 93,000-acre (380 km2) Irvine Ranch remains the core holding of The Irvine Company. Of the total ranch area, 44,000 acres (180 km2) is retained for development whilst the remainder are preserved as wilderness and recreational preserves collectively known as the Irvine Ranch Natural Landmarks. In August 2014, the Irvine Company announced plans to donate and preserve 2,500 additional acres of land previously approved for housing.[8] The Ranch encompasses almost one fifth of Orange County, from the Pacific Ocean and Newport Harbor, Laguna Beach, and Santa Ana Canyon, to the boundary of the Cleveland National Forest.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irvine_Company#Operations

  90. @Anatoly Karlin
    Paolo Bacigalupi's Water Knife paints a dystopian picture of the mid-21st century Southwest in which mega-corporations control all the water and ordinary people struggle to survive amidst mass desertification, water shortages, and gang turf wars.

    I suppose it's not the most implausible scenario, but I'm not sure that water shortages would be the actual primary culprit.

    Could be. The entire Southwest depends on the Colorado River for water. That river is already 100% allocated. Nothing even reaches Mexico, never mind the Pacific. It is a river that rises in the Rockies and peters out somewhere in the SoCal conurbation.

    Every one of those caravan border jumpers, should they get in, every new immigrant to the Southwest, can only drink water by taking it away from someone else who is already there.

    So yes, water competition will become more heated…

  91. @Anon

    About 80% of the more than 600,000 students qualify for free or reduced-price meals.
     
    So? Make the requirements more stringent and we can get that down to 250,000. Problem solved.

    Why do these people come here if they can't support themselves? I travel internationally extensively and I always pay for my own food and hotels, because I'm not a parasite. There's this thing called, not being a moron, and possessing skills that someone might wish to pay you for.

    “Why do these people come here if they can’t support themselves?”

    These people come here because they can’t support themselves. Central America has no welfare state.

    “I travel internationally extensively and I always pay for my own food and hotels, because I’m not a parasite.”

    That’s you. But now you also get to pay for their food and hotels, because they’re not just “traveling internationally”, they’re moving to your home with or without your invitation.

  92. @Anonymous
    @SteveSailer
    A bit of divergence but you might be interested!

    When you mass import the third world, you mass import their "culture" even in the case of [purported] "highly accomplished" immigrants like this "perfessor", deep in the heart of red america! Any food for thought? There are tons of cases like these to kick the case for "legal immigration" [read Indian and Chinese] to the curb. Please put it on your blog.

    A "highly accomplished professor" uses his ethnic Indian students for such "intellectual pursuits" as trimming his lawn, watching his dog and shoveling snow! Perhaps female students were even given a further "taste" of his "intellect"!

    And this guy has been living here since the 90s apparently. Culture has a deep imprint on the psyche so no matter how many more years he lives here, he'll always be an Indian [dot] deep down and will revert to it the moment he relaxes his guard

    A “highly accomplished professor” uses his ethnic Indian students for such “intellectual pursuits” as trimming his lawn, watching his dog and shoveling snow!

    The UK has passed strict laws against “modern slavery”. If anyone had the idea that modern slavers look like Leonardo DiCaprio in Django Unchained, then they were quickly disabused of that notion.

    The slavers are always from ethnic minorities, sometimes from the professional classes.

    A Nigerian couple, doctor and nurse, kept another Nigerian as a slave:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4523152/GP-husband-trafficked-Nigerian-slave-UK.html

    A Liberian-born nurse used black magic to control her ring of prostitutes trafficked from Nigeria to Britain and Germany:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5918209/NHS-nurse-jailed-14-years-using-voodoo-force-Nigerian-women-work-prostitutes.html

    Ethnic Indian professional couple kept a Polish man in a shed:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6341291/Two-arrested-suspicion-modern-slavery-man-forced-sleep-shed-four-years.html

    Romanian builders exploiting other Romanians:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6159197/Inside-slavery-compound-Bunk-beds-trainers-strewn-rubbish-Home-Counties-house.html

    Eastern European car washes – these are now ubiquitous:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4280376/Slaves-trafficked-UK-forced-wash-car.html

    Vietnamese nail bars (again ubiquitous – the 100 arrests barely scratch the surface)

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4069256/Salon-swoop-100-arrested-modern-slavery-police-crackdown-nail-bars-employ-illegal-immigrant-staff.html

    Some economists used to tell us that nail bars were an example of successful provision of a service that people didn’t realize they wanted. We don’t hear that so much now because, embarrassingly, the services actually provided include people trafficking, prostitution, illegal immigration, and money laundering.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    If anyone had the idea that modern slavers look like Leonardo DiCaprio in Django Unchained, then they were quickly disabused of that notion.
     
    You can blame (((hollywood))) for that. Now that I'm woke, I just cannot keep myself from noticing the subtle programming that goes into every movie. (((they))) are almost always the good guys or are the underlings, whites - sickos/perverts/dangerous, Indians[dot] - the nerds, holocaust almost always mentioned in some indirect way and has to be shoved down our throats. Then increasing there has to be a faggot, who is almost always a great character . Women fight and kill. Up is down and why didn't I notice these things before tells me how I and millions of people were subtly programmed to accept this as the new "reality". It has ruined the fun for me forever but I'm grateful for that. How I long to make others see things that I see now! Once you are "woke", there's no going back! Whether you like it or not.

    Thanks for the links btw. UK is a living example of what happens when "ethnic minorities" reach a certain level of the population (I think it has reached 30% now there hasn't it??). I bet a lot of them came in as "skilled immigrants" as well. (((They))) don't care as they still get to dictate foreign policy and increasing steer the social justice train-wreck to mow down as many whites as they can. When it starts getting too hot, there's always that little country in the ME to run away too. No one can touch them there.

  93. @GermanReader2
    Victor Davis Hanson frequently wrote about this in his columns.

    Yeah, I used to read him, but I can’t remember on which blog it was.

    Are you any kin to GermanReader, BTW? I liked that guy. Maybe you know him from living in Germany with him. ;-}

    • Replies: @GermanReader2
    I do not know him, so we are probably not kin.
  94. @anon
    I saw a lengthy documentary on the 747.

    It was 10 years old so they didn't bother pretending it was developed by a diverse team of engineers or the janitor.

    Its getting close to 50 years old and still works. No major US crashes in US this century.

    Well, the original design is 50 years old, but most of the 747’s flying around here are the newer -400s (they’d be freighters or foreign airliners, as the 3 big US carriers ditched their 747s finally end-of-last-year). Then there are many -800’s flying around now. You won’t see many -200’s around these parts, even for Connie Kallita but I’m sure many will live good quiet lives down in S America. They sure are classic airplanes.

    I recommend a book called Wide Body that’d be right up your alley #707. It starts off discussing the B-47 swept-wing bomber, the technology of which was used to develop the 707. The 2nd half or so of the book is about the 74, and all the development problems. It reads as though Boeing bet the company on each of these planes, separately, that is.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    I recommend a book called Wide Body that’d be right up your alley #707. It starts off discussing the B-47 swept-wing bomber, the technology of which was used to develop the 707. The 2nd half or so of the book is about the 74, and all the development problems. It reads as though Boeing bet the company on each of these planes, separately, that is.
     
    Boeing did bet the company on the 707 and again on the 747. They did, however, decide not to bet the company on the 2707 and dropped it when government financing was not forthcoming.

    In each case they made the right decision.
  95. @The Alarmist
    An American colleague and I took the train to the airport one day, passing what Germans call Schrebergärten, and he asked me, "How can people live like this?"

    Well, for most of them, it's just an allotment they tend to on weekends or evenings, though some people do live in these things, and many grow quite a bit of produce in their allotment.

    Some enterprising soul in the US should start setting aside land and garden shacks for our poor.

    https://www.srf.ch/static/radio/modules/dynimages/624/srf-2/100sekundenwissen/2016/411316.20160721_schrebergarten.jpg

    Some enterprising soul in the US should start setting aside land and garden shacks for our poor.

    There are plenty of these “community gardens” around here. I haven’t heard of any0ne living in one yet, but that’s just our climate at work.

    And what’s with the Portuguese flag?

    • Replies: @The Alarmist

    "And what’s with the Portuguese flag?"
     
    A lot of immigrants supplement their meagre earnings or benefits by their gardens, and still show their home pride. I haven't seen many private persons flying the EU flag.
  96. @Carol
    I don't think it would take much for Hispanics to "rediscover" their arabic heritage.

    I don’t think it would take much for Hispanics to “rediscover” their arabic heritage.

    The Arabs sat on Iberia for some 700 years. That explains a lot.

    For one thing, nobody in Christendom outside of Hispanophone lands would dare name their son “Jesus”. But Arabs do it all the time.

  97. Anonymous[658] • Disclaimer says:
    @James N. Kennett

    A “highly accomplished professor” uses his ethnic Indian students for such “intellectual pursuits” as trimming his lawn, watching his dog and shoveling snow!
     
    The UK has passed strict laws against "modern slavery". If anyone had the idea that modern slavers look like Leonardo DiCaprio in Django Unchained, then they were quickly disabused of that notion.

    The slavers are always from ethnic minorities, sometimes from the professional classes.

    A Nigerian couple, doctor and nurse, kept another Nigerian as a slave:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4523152/GP-husband-trafficked-Nigerian-slave-UK.html

    A Liberian-born nurse used black magic to control her ring of prostitutes trafficked from Nigeria to Britain and Germany:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5918209/NHS-nurse-jailed-14-years-using-voodoo-force-Nigerian-women-work-prostitutes.html

    Ethnic Indian professional couple kept a Polish man in a shed:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6341291/Two-arrested-suspicion-modern-slavery-man-forced-sleep-shed-four-years.html

    Romanian builders exploiting other Romanians:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6159197/Inside-slavery-compound-Bunk-beds-trainers-strewn-rubbish-Home-Counties-house.html

    Eastern European car washes - these are now ubiquitous:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4280376/Slaves-trafficked-UK-forced-wash-car.html

    Vietnamese nail bars (again ubiquitous - the 100 arrests barely scratch the surface)

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4069256/Salon-swoop-100-arrested-modern-slavery-police-crackdown-nail-bars-employ-illegal-immigrant-staff.html

    Some economists used to tell us that nail bars were an example of successful provision of a service that people didn't realize they wanted. We don't hear that so much now because, embarrassingly, the services actually provided include people trafficking, prostitution, illegal immigration, and money laundering.

    If anyone had the idea that modern slavers look like Leonardo DiCaprio in Django Unchained, then they were quickly disabused of that notion.

    You can blame (((hollywood))) for that. Now that I’m woke, I just cannot keep myself from noticing the subtle programming that goes into every movie. (((they))) are almost always the good guys or are the underlings, whites – sickos/perverts/dangerous, Indians[dot] – the nerds, holocaust almost always mentioned in some indirect way and has to be shoved down our throats. Then increasing there has to be a faggot, who is almost always a great character . Women fight and kill. Up is down and why didn’t I notice these things before tells me how I and millions of people were subtly programmed to accept this as the new “reality”. It has ruined the fun for me forever but I’m grateful for that. How I long to make others see things that I see now! Once you are “woke”, there’s no going back! Whether you like it or not.

    Thanks for the links btw. UK is a living example of what happens when “ethnic minorities” reach a certain level of the population (I think it has reached 30% now there hasn’t it??). I bet a lot of them came in as “skilled immigrants” as well. (((They))) don’t care as they still get to dictate foreign policy and increasing steer the social justice train-wreck to mow down as many whites as they can. When it starts getting too hot, there’s always that little country in the ME to run away too. No one can touch them there.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Every single thing the masses believe devolves from MSM propaganda.
  98. @Anonymous

    William Knustler assures us the cheap energy will run out any day now.
     
    Do you think there's anything to that?

    Something, but 1.It’s a lot further off than he thinks. 2. We’re getting better at cranking out renewables.

  99. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Well, the original design is 50 years old, but most of the 747's flying around here are the newer -400s (they'd be freighters or foreign airliners, as the 3 big US carriers ditched their 747s finally end-of-last-year). Then there are many -800's flying around now. You won't see many -200's around these parts, even for Connie Kallita but I'm sure many will live good quiet lives down in S America. They sure are classic airplanes.

    I recommend a book called Wide Body that'd be right up your alley #707. It starts off discussing the B-47 swept-wing bomber, the technology of which was used to develop the 707. The 2nd half or so of the book is about the 74, and all the development problems. It reads as though Boeing bet the company on each of these planes, separately, that is.

    I recommend a book called Wide Body that’d be right up your alley #707. It starts off discussing the B-47 swept-wing bomber, the technology of which was used to develop the 707. The 2nd half or so of the book is about the 74, and all the development problems. It reads as though Boeing bet the company on each of these planes, separately, that is.

    Boeing did bet the company on the 707 and again on the 747. They did, however, decide not to bet the company on the 2707 and dropped it when government financing was not forthcoming.

    In each case they made the right decision.

  100. @AnotherDad

    If you import low IQ poor people, you are going to have a low IQ, poor population.
     
    This is why conservatives can not just be about "secure border" and "rule of law" even though those two things are absolutely critical and political winners.

    To actually win--have a nation that's worth a damn--we must take on the whole Jewish minoritarian/anti-national project and propaganda--"racist!", "eugenics", "Hitler!"--directly.

    When a putz like Brian Schatt's is doing the usual whining about someone saying "Anglo-American", he must be countered and the point punched home. Yes, that is our heritage and that is precisely why America is (or at least was) a great prosperous and free placeand all these other people are dumping their home nations and trying to get into ours.

    America is great because it was a piece of high quality resource rich real estate conquered and settled, by Anglo-Saxons--and other NW Europeans under Anglo-Saxon cultural norms. It's not great because "the Constitution", it's not prosperous from slave labor, it's certainly not great because "nation of immigrants". No America was great because (high IQ, conscientious) productive people met productive land. The other anglo-sphere nations--Cananda, Australia, New Zealand--with different political systems and histories are also very nice prosperous places for the same core reasons.

    America is great, because it was white.

    But you are what you "eat". You take in English--you'll be more like England. Take in Irish--you'll be more like Ireland. Germans--more like Germany. Italians--more like Italy. Chinese--more like China. Indians--more like India. Mexicans--more like Mexico. Salvadorans--more like El Salvador. Somalians--more like Somalia.

    I'm a pretty easy going guy. I'm friends with people from a veritable rainbow of nationalities and ethnic/racial groups. But i want America to be what it was--a predominantely white nation with a white culture anchored in the West. And i'm pretty darn sure people didn't want to change that and we darn sure didn't have vote. Hands up for everyone who wants us to be more like Honduras? Haiti? Somalia?

    Easy to say on a comment board hard to do in practice, politically.

    For example the politician that comes closest to doing as you suggest today is not Trump but Steve King. He has consistently alluded to the supremacy of western civilization and how immigration, multiculturalism harms that.

    For his troubles the Republican Party cut off support and the national media boosted his opponent making it their mission to defeat him. They failed but the damage has been done.

    Trump probably has to win re-election for the worm to turn in the restrictionist favor and even then it’s dicey. The GOP really missed the ball here. Should have been dismantling big immigration piecemeal if nothing else. Eliminating the diversity lottery should have been a slam dunk, nothing.

    Reducing legal immigration by even a quarter should have been done. Instead Ryan wanted tax cuts. Trump has been going alone on immigration restriction with little support and he’s taking hits for that.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna

    The GOP really missed the ball here.
     
    Yes, but it was by design. The entire edifice of 'third-world immigration at nation-wrecking levels' came about through an unholy alliance of Dems & Reps. They had to work together to destroy this once-great nation, and by golly they've done it.

    You may perceive the faint but persistent sound of hands rubbing together behind all of that 'bi-partisanship'--but we're reliably instructed (even here!) to ignore the chimera.

  101. @Reg Cæsar

    Some enterprising soul in the US should start setting aside land and garden shacks for our poor.
     
    There are plenty of these "community gardens" around here. I haven't heard of any0ne living in one yet, but that's just our climate at work.

    And what's with the Portuguese flag?

    “And what’s with the Portuguese flag?”

    A lot of immigrants supplement their meagre earnings or benefits by their gardens, and still show their home pride. I haven’t seen many private persons flying the EU flag.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    "Immigrants" and "meagre earnings" do not belong in the same sentence!
  102. Anon[172] • Disclaimer says:

    Along with eVerify and citizen/visa requirements for financial accounts, the feds should revise Schedule E to require landlords to identify all tenants during the year, with their SSNs, and bank accounts or whether they paid cash. Consolidation of data like this, over time, will allow a creative anti immigration president to apply all sorts of pressure on illegals and their enablers.

  103. Anon[172] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    I saw a lengthy documentary on the 747.

    It was 10 years old so they didn't bother pretending it was developed by a diverse team of engineers or the janitor.

    Its getting close to 50 years old and still works. No major US crashes in US this century.

    Every system on the 747 has been upgraded so many times that it’s hardly the same plane that debuted 50 years ago. Thank God.

    BTW, I recently did a couple of trans-Pacific flights on 787-9’s, and I must say I was a little nervous flying so far on a 2-engine jet made out of plastic.

  104. @Achmed E. Newman
    Yeah, I used to read him, but I can't remember on which blog it was.

    Are you any kin to GermanReader, BTW? I liked that guy. Maybe you know him from living in Germany with him. ;-}

    I do not know him, so we are probably not kin.

  105. @The Alarmist

    "And what’s with the Portuguese flag?"
     
    A lot of immigrants supplement their meagre earnings or benefits by their gardens, and still show their home pride. I haven't seen many private persons flying the EU flag.

    “Immigrants” and “meagre earnings” do not belong in the same sentence!

  106. @Anon
    The GOP establishment cannot fathom an existence that did not depend on shilling for the military-industrial complex.

    Eric Cantor isn't relegated to slinging hash. And those congresscucks that retired this year will be well compensated for not pushing immigration cuts.

    In the UK, George Osborne, previously the equivalent of Treasury secretary, admitted that the platform of cutting immigration was always a lie. You see, businesses would get mad if they couldn't import workers, and Muslims would get mad if they couldn't import their cousins. The British peoples did get mad, and voted out of the EU.

    Ben Shapiro can always rest assured that if the US declines by a great extent, he can move to Israel. The rest of us don't have that luxury, witness the plight of the powerless Afrikaners.

    Ben Shapiro can always rest assured that if the US declines by a great extent, he can move to Israel. The rest of us don’t have that luxury, witness the plight of the powerless Afrikaners.

    True, but when the US declines it will have a difficult time continuing to subsidize Israel and sending carrier task forces to fend off Israels many many enemies. Life could get a bit more perilous there as well.

  107. That walk-in closet is worth a fortune.
    Deduct everything.

  108. @GermanReader2
    Victor Davis Hanson frequently wrote about this in his columns.

    Thanks for the ref. Never even heard of him before. Now reading.

  109. @Anonymous

    If anyone had the idea that modern slavers look like Leonardo DiCaprio in Django Unchained, then they were quickly disabused of that notion.
     
    You can blame (((hollywood))) for that. Now that I'm woke, I just cannot keep myself from noticing the subtle programming that goes into every movie. (((they))) are almost always the good guys or are the underlings, whites - sickos/perverts/dangerous, Indians[dot] - the nerds, holocaust almost always mentioned in some indirect way and has to be shoved down our throats. Then increasing there has to be a faggot, who is almost always a great character . Women fight and kill. Up is down and why didn't I notice these things before tells me how I and millions of people were subtly programmed to accept this as the new "reality". It has ruined the fun for me forever but I'm grateful for that. How I long to make others see things that I see now! Once you are "woke", there's no going back! Whether you like it or not.

    Thanks for the links btw. UK is a living example of what happens when "ethnic minorities" reach a certain level of the population (I think it has reached 30% now there hasn't it??). I bet a lot of them came in as "skilled immigrants" as well. (((They))) don't care as they still get to dictate foreign policy and increasing steer the social justice train-wreck to mow down as many whites as they can. When it starts getting too hot, there's always that little country in the ME to run away too. No one can touch them there.

    Every single thing the masses believe devolves from MSM propaganda.

  110. @AnotherDad

    If you import low IQ poor people, you are going to have a low IQ, poor population.
     
    This is why conservatives can not just be about "secure border" and "rule of law" even though those two things are absolutely critical and political winners.

    To actually win--have a nation that's worth a damn--we must take on the whole Jewish minoritarian/anti-national project and propaganda--"racist!", "eugenics", "Hitler!"--directly.

    When a putz like Brian Schatt's is doing the usual whining about someone saying "Anglo-American", he must be countered and the point punched home. Yes, that is our heritage and that is precisely why America is (or at least was) a great prosperous and free placeand all these other people are dumping their home nations and trying to get into ours.

    America is great because it was a piece of high quality resource rich real estate conquered and settled, by Anglo-Saxons--and other NW Europeans under Anglo-Saxon cultural norms. It's not great because "the Constitution", it's not prosperous from slave labor, it's certainly not great because "nation of immigrants". No America was great because (high IQ, conscientious) productive people met productive land. The other anglo-sphere nations--Cananda, Australia, New Zealand--with different political systems and histories are also very nice prosperous places for the same core reasons.

    America is great, because it was white.

    But you are what you "eat". You take in English--you'll be more like England. Take in Irish--you'll be more like Ireland. Germans--more like Germany. Italians--more like Italy. Chinese--more like China. Indians--more like India. Mexicans--more like Mexico. Salvadorans--more like El Salvador. Somalians--more like Somalia.

    I'm a pretty easy going guy. I'm friends with people from a veritable rainbow of nationalities and ethnic/racial groups. But i want America to be what it was--a predominantely white nation with a white culture anchored in the West. And i'm pretty darn sure people didn't want to change that and we darn sure didn't have vote. Hands up for everyone who wants us to be more like Honduras? Haiti? Somalia?

    I hope your collected works are being saved somewhere.

  111. @Ed
    Easy to say on a comment board hard to do in practice, politically.

    For example the politician that comes closest to doing as you suggest today is not Trump but Steve King. He has consistently alluded to the supremacy of western civilization and how immigration, multiculturalism harms that.

    For his troubles the Republican Party cut off support and the national media boosted his opponent making it their mission to defeat him. They failed but the damage has been done.

    Trump probably has to win re-election for the worm to turn in the restrictionist favor and even then it’s dicey. The GOP really missed the ball here. Should have been dismantling big immigration piecemeal if nothing else. Eliminating the diversity lottery should have been a slam dunk, nothing.

    Reducing legal immigration by even a quarter should have been done. Instead Ryan wanted tax cuts. Trump has been going alone on immigration restriction with little support and he’s taking hits for that.

    The GOP really missed the ball here.

    Yes, but it was by design. The entire edifice of ‘third-world immigration at nation-wrecking levels’ came about through an unholy alliance of Dems & Reps. They had to work together to destroy this once-great nation, and by golly they’ve done it.

    You may perceive the faint but persistent sound of hands rubbing together behind all of that ‘bi-partisanship’–but we’re reliably instructed (even here!) to ignore the chimera.

  112. @Achmed E. Newman
    Thanks for covering for Reg Caesar, #750. I still think you got it wrong. Mrs. Rodham dropped the Mother of all Loads back, what, 75 years ago?

    “Mrs. Rodham dropped the Mother of all Loads back, what, 75 years ago?”

    Not to mention the Demon Spawn of the union of that Mother Load and Billy Bob; I regret to think we have not seen the last of the Demon Spawn.

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