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One reason the Democrats keep ancient warhorses like Nancy Pelosi around is to forestall the Diverse Party’s upcoming internal war of all against all over who gets the spoils. Now, elderly black Congressional leader Jim Clyburn is putting himself forward as a potential Speaker of the House, cleverly positioning himself as reassuring to non-blacks as being too old to launch the Democratic Party’s upcoming internal race war, but also as galvanizing to blacks by promising to help position younger blacks to win the Race War for Control of the Democratic Party after his time.

From The State, a newspaper in South Carolina:

As speaker, Jim Clyburn says he would ‘transform’ Democratic Party
BY EMMA DUMAIN AND WILLIAM DOUGLAS

August 14, 2018 04:15 PM

TUNICA, MISSISSIPPI
As speaker of the House, U.S. Rep. Jim Clyburn says he would be a “transitional” leader but not “custodial.”

The South Carolina Democrat says he would work to “transform” the Democratic Caucus to make the party more appealing “to young African Americans who still feel … take(n) for granted.” …

Surrounded by allies and supporters at the Congressional Black Caucus Institute’s annual policy forum in Tunica, Miss., last weekend, Clyburn spoke more frankly and openly than he had before about how he would approach the top job in the House’s leadership.

Clyburn also made clear he was ready for the challenge — and ready to make history as the first African-American speaker of the House — rather than demure that the decision was not up to him.

“I’m very much up for it,” Clyburn said in an interview with McClatchy during a break from conference activities.

“Trump asked the question (about himself), ‘What do I have to lose?’ ” Clyburn added, alluding to President Donald Trump’s pitch to black voters during the 2016 campaign. “What do I have to lose?”

The third-ranking House Democrat, most senior African-American in Congress and 25-year veteran lawmaker, Clyburn repeated he has no intention of challenging Democratic House leader Nancy Pelosi of California for the top job if she wants it, assuming Democrats retake control of the House in the November elections.

However, Clyburn signaled he was prepared to offer himself up as a successor should Pelosi not have the support to win back the post she held between 2007 and 2011 — a distinct possibility as many Democrats clamor for new leadership. …

In sketching out his possible speakership, Clyburn used the word “transitional” several times. It was a nod to those who have said the 78-year-old lawmaker should not plan for a long-term tenure if he becomes speaker but serve as a “bridge” between the current leadership slate and the next generation of leaders — and specifically groom that next generation for near-future ascension.

But Clyburn bristled at the suggestion he would be a custodian, a symbolic figurehead without lasting influence.

“I think our party needs to be transformed and that’s what I’m talking about,” Clyburn said. “Custodial? Lord, no.”

He said Democrats must be smarter about how they sell themselves to voters. Others have made this point as well, but Clyburn put an emphasis on winning over African-Americans.

Clyburn recounted a conversation he had had recently with a congressional candidate who thought he could appeal to black voters by simply running on an anti-Trump platform.

“I said (to him), ‘Wait a minute. So you think you’re gonna conduct your campaign trying to be attractive to black voters and leave it up to an anti-Trump feeling for black people to vote? You don’t feel an obligation to reach out to that community and let them know what’s in it for them if you were to get elected?’ ” Clyburn recalled saying to the candidate. …

A leadership race between Clyburn and Hoyer could be ugly and divisive. …

But the stakes are higher now than they were eight years ago, and it’s less likely Clyburn would back away from the chance to be the first black speaker.

The historic nature of a Clyburn speakership could bolster his support, too.

The Black Caucus is pushing particularly hard for Clyburn to prepare to run for the post if Pelosi bows out, and there’s every indication it would vote as a 40-plus-member bloc. …

Black Caucus Democrats currently account for 45 of the 193 Democrats in the House of Representatives. However, the number of black Democrats could grow after the midterms.

“You cannot get to 218 (votes) to be speaker without the Black Caucus,” Richmond said. “If we hold, you cannot get the speakership without us. I’m just doing math right now, you can’t get there without the Black Caucus.”

Suggestion to Rep. Clyburn’s speechwriters for future speeches to the Black Caucus: position him as the Moses who will get his people of freed slaves to the edge of the Promised Land, allowing a younger Joshua to eventually take, with fire and sword, what is rightfully theirs: control of the Democratic Party.

 
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  1. songbird says:

    How long until most of them regularly start to wear tribalistic uniforms like the EFF?

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  2. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Somewhat related to this, it’s going to be hilarious when the Alt Light’s Candace Owens bubble bursts.

  3. Is there a Congressional Alzheimer’s Caucus?

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  4. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says: • Website

    The Jewish ethno-monopolistic prison.

  5. “cleverly positioning himself as reassuring to non-blacks as being too old to launch the Democratic Party’s upcoming internal race war, ”

    Even though these crusty old black farts all pretty much run on the “I grew up in the Jim Crow south” platform every election since the 60′s, and they all wear those chips on their shoulders like a Croix de Guerre.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  6. Clyburn has become elderly in Comgress thanks to the racially gerrymandered SC 7th House District that the VRA created for him.

    Fun fact, Rep. Clyburn’s oldest daughter is Mignon (yes) Clyburn, who Obama made a FCC Commisoner.

    • Replies: @SonOfStrom
    , @Reg Cæsar
  7. Dr. X says:

    Hank Johnson for Speaker!!!

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  8. On the recently discussed topic of Sarah Jeong, the Los Angeles Times writer Jonah Goldberg today provided a more rational assessment of the controversity in his essay “What ‘racism’ means on the left, and for everyone else.”

    … But what Klein and others miss is that they can’t play Humpty Dumpty when it comes to the language they use. “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty famously said, “it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.”

    The notion that racism is solely about institutionalized white power simply doesn’t compute for most Americans. In common parlance, racism means prejudice or bigotry on account of race or skin color. Period. The pathetic racists who marched on Washington this weekend don’t have much cultural power. Surely that explains their racism more than it mitigates or absolves it.

    Progressives desperate attempt to clumsily redefine a word young impressible minds were taught to associate with disgust reflects the dullness of their intended audience in the same way Sarah Jeong’s dumb racist tweets resonated with the lowest classes.

    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-goldberg-racism-left-right-20180814-story.html#

  9. @songbird
    It’s already happening…

    • Replies: @songbird
    , @Romanian
  10. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    More than 90 percent of blacks vote Democrat The Democrats can’t recruit more blacks They need to find an Asian Hindu mix.

    • Replies: @Hail
  11. @SonOfStrom

    In general though, Clyburn is relatively low-key for a guy with that much seniority and who seemingly has plenty of Pokémon Points to play with, so your strategy might work – his whole career has been pretty Workman-like:

    He doesn’t have the civil rights chops of a guy like John Lewis. His roots are religious country blacks, and he pretty much rode a state sinecure position for a couple decades until his district was created for him in the early 90s.

    The biggest question idbhave about the Moses play is, is there a black Joshua on the horizon anywhere in the House?

  12. Arclight says:

    I’d say the GOP ought to have their fingers crossed this comes to pass. Steny Hoyer is a substantially better political tactician than Pelosi and I assume Clyburn, but he had the misfortune of being the wrong gender when he and Pelosi competed for Minority Leader way back when and now would be the wrong skin color.

    What, I wonder, does Clyburn have in mind that would suddenly galvanize millions of younger and politically disinterested blacks to fall in love with the Democratic Party?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Art Deco
  13. Boethiuss says:

    The paragraph before the cite and the one after the cite are almost identical. More pedantry: I’m pretty sure theirs has no apostrophe. You can delete this comment.

  14. peterike says:

    Clyburn should change his name to Grifter McHuckster. There are, after all, truth in advertising laws.

  15. AndrewR says:

    He doesn’t sound that bad. If he can keep the deranged anti-Trump morons from the levers of power then that is good.

    • Replies: @Marty T
  16. take what is rightfully their’s.

    Misplaced apostrophe, as Boethiuss notes.  “Theirs” is the correct possessive pronoun.

  17. indocon says:

    CT5 represents the northwest portion of CT, full of medium sized towns that have hung on to some of their industrial base partly because of nature of business like Ethan Allen which are based there. Used to be a Republican area but drifted to Democrats in 1990′s along with remaining New England Republican areas that were repulsed by Bushisism. Incumbent Democrat got #metooed but from opposite side, the nomination was favored for a local jewish pol, who got surprisingly defeated tonight by a first timer AA candidate Jaahana Hayes. The republican candidate looks like is a white hispanic Manny Santos, pretty impressive bio

    https://www.santosforcongress.com/

    So we got a first timer AA clipping a Jew to face a White Hispanic. Fun times indeed.

    Media was gushing about yet another AA first time by proclaiming Jahana as first Black rep from CT, until a few realized that black rep Gary Franks had represented the district below this in 1990′s.

    https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/connecticut/

    • Replies: @Brutusale
  18. Boethiuss says:

    This isn’t necessarily a bad thing for Clyburn. Like he said, “What does he have to lose?” And there’s some chance it could work.

    But really the logic is wrong. This doesn’t do anything for the Democratic Party or Black America, either way. Nancy Pelosi is a drag on Democrat House candidates, and if they intend to do anything about that, either she needs to step down before the election, or there needs to be a consensus alternative to take over after. And even somehow if he did take her place right now, I’m not sure how much it would help. He, Nancy, and Steny have been the Democratic leadership in the House for what, at least a decade, I don’t know if he’d even count as a new face.

    As far as the Blacks are concerned, I agree with Steve that it’s easy for Black Americans to be led to believe that they deserve all sorts of favors, political or otherwise. Beyond that, though, the shoe doesn’t fit here. Specifically Black voters, motivated to get their due, or make a black guy The Boss. The Speaker of the House, hasn’t tended to act like a boss before my lifetime (even if he was). And this guy, he says he might run for the if Nancy Pelosi steps down? Doesn’t sound very much like a boss to me.

    And it’s not the voters who vote for the Speaker anyway, it’s the incoming Representatives.

    I don’t see James Clyburn galvanizing Black support like Obama did, which brings to a couple things about him that I think are relevant. Specifically, Obama’s book and all that drama about who his father was, and how he personally represents both sides of the American racial divide, etc, etc., all hurt Obama running in a Chicago primary against Bobby Rush. But for his Presidential races, it worked great. I know Steve has written a great deal about this, but I don’t know if he’s emphasized the impact of it for Black voters in Presidential races.

    That is, it’s not just that we can make a black guy the boss (which is pretty good on its own terms), but also we can say that making a black guy the boss is the solution to the whole history of American racial antagonism. That was quite a double shot for Black voters, and I don’t think it’s necessarily repeatable.

    So, we might see some Black national Democratic politicians or candidates for big offices for the reasons Steve says. But even if we do, they might not bring the same juice in terms of delivering Black votes that Obama did.

  19. istevefan says:

    Blacks overestimate their role in the democrat party. Though they do vote in ridiculous proportions for the democrats, the bulk of democrat voters are still white. And Jewish-Americans reportedly provide 50% of democrat funding.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Eric Novak
    , @Mr. Rational
  20. CAL2 says:

    Obama was the point of peak black. As those Baby Boomers, who they are in a hurry to get rid of, die off, they are going to find that white, Hispanics, and Asians simply don’t care.

  21. songbird says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    True, but I think it will be another landmark, when it becomes a day to day thing.

    That’s a great pic because you can see at least three tribalistic markers:
    1.) the black clothing (D)
    2.) the “Recy” pins (D)
    3.) the African colors. (Black Caucus)

    Maybe a bit of blue too, but I’ll let that one slide, since not much appears in that frame.

    I think it would be a good political strategy to encourage it to the point where they each have 50 medals and ribbons on their chest.

  22. Whiskey says: • Website

    Perhaps a astro-turf campaign could be created to demand “ACTION NOW” on behalf of all Black people, to seize all White oligarch property and the entire Malibu coast for Black people.

    After all, if you think about it, don’t Black people deserve Bill Gates, Warren Buffett’s, Larry Ellison’s, George Soros, and particularly the Koch Brother’s money, estates, and possessions. They didn’t build that! People of Color demand action NOW!

    Meathead Rob Reiner sits in a Malibu Mansion. When if you think about it, that’s racist and should belong to say, Kamala Harris or Colin Kaepernick or rapper Young Thug or some other heroic fighter for racial justice.

    Yes indeedy. I think this would be an excellent campaign and one in which Maxine Waters could well get behind. Heck perhaps Ocasio-Cortez could demand a piece of the action too — maybe if you think about it real hard Haim Saban’s money and property really do belong to Mestizos of Social Justice not well, Saban. After all to say otherwise is just racist.

    • Agree: MBlanc46
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
  23. ChrisZ says:

    Wasn’t he the guy in “Santa’s Husband”?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  24. @SonOfStrom

    Clyburn has become elderly in Comgress thanks to the racially gerrymandered SC 7th House District that the VRA created for him.

    The VRA and the GOP. Dump as many blacks in their own district as you can, and the rest of the state’s districts are yours. What’s not to like?

    Comgress

    ?

    Son of Strom

    What does your half-sister of color think of all this?

    • Replies: @indocon
    , @SonOfStrom
  25. Twinkie says:

    [Blacks] take, with fire and sword, what is rightfully theirs: control of the Democratic Party.

    May that day arrive quickly.

  26. indocon says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    This is Clyburn’s district, thank God for its boundaries as it makes 3 surrounding districts solidly Republican. Its easy to make 2-2 or even 3-1 map for Democrats if there was no VRA in this area.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina%27s_6th_congressional_district#/media/File:South_Carolina_US_Congressional_District_6_(since_2013).tif

    • Replies: @SonOfStrom
  27. “But Clyburn bristled at the suggestion he would be a custodian”

    He probably thought they were asking him to sweep the floors. Dems da real rayciss.

  28. Mr. Anon says:
    @Arclight

    What, I wonder, does Clyburn have in mind that would suddenly galvanize millions of younger and politically disinterested blacks to fall in love with the Democratic Party?

    Does it matter if they are interested or not? I would not be surprised if a lot of heavily black districts are, in effect, rotten boroughs. Lots of the people in them probably aren’t legally able to vote because of a felony record. Something like a quarter of black men are “judicially involved”. So the number the Congressman needs to turn out to keep him in office might be manageably small

  29. Hail says: • Website
    @Anon

    They need to find an Asian Hindu mix.

    Hindus are already Asian, technically.

    More likely they go for Muslims than Hindus, anyway.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  30. Hail says: • Website

    the Race War for Control of the Democratic Party

    If Blacks lose this war, the Black Separatist-Nationalist element of U.S. politics would presumably be strengthened.

  31. Appointing a black to be the Leader of the Democrats could help Republicans. The reason Clyburn was not made the Democratic Minority Leader when the Democrats lost the house in 2010 was that Obama was President and it would have created an ‘issue’ with voters so they hung on to Pelosi. But that might make it far more difficult for Democrats in upcoming Presidential elections because of the same overdosing on blacks will occur. Right now, blacks are Kingmakers in the Democratic party because they have a ball hold on the primary process and they they hold the key to their own turnout, i.e. they will show up for one of their own. This will become even more acute as whites flee now that the Dems have hit the tipping point.

  32. Pericles says:

    “Trump asked the question (about himself), ‘What do I have to lose?’ ” Clyburn added, alluding to President Donald Trump’s pitch to black voters during the 2016 campaign. “What do I have to lose?”

    Ho ho ho. It’s getting interesting when black leaders approvingly quote Trump.

  33. @indocon

    Right – an elegant balancing act that’s turned the VRA, somewhat, to Pub’s advantage.

  34. @Reg Cæsar

    What’s not to like?

    Right, a fine compromise.

    ?

    Eh, a slip of the finger.

    half-sister of color

    Eh, a slip of, well…

  35. Anonymous[346] • Disclaimer says:

    But Clyburn bristled at the suggestion he would be a custodian, a symbolic figurehead without lasting influence.

    Why would a black man bristle at being compared to a janitor? Oh, never mind …

  36. are there IQ studies of people as they age? Does the change in IQ over a persons lifetime vary depending on race? Clyburn has sounded like a bright guy to me over the years. But I wonder if Blacks do not age well in terms of ambition, intellect and achievement. I am think of Jesse Jackson who kind of fell of the edge of the public space earth some years ago. And now Al Sharpton, at age 64, is pretty much a non entity.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  37. Suggestion to Rep. Clyburn’s speechwriters for future speeches to the Black Caucus: position him as the Moses who will get his people of freed slaves to the edge of the Promised Land, allowing a younger Joshua to eventually take, with fire and sword, what is rightfully theirs: control of the Democratic Party.

    Even if this actually happens (which I doubt: the donor class and the ((donor)) class will not let it happen, at least not in a meaningful way) it won’t last long. The Latinos will not stand down and watch, and numbers are on their side.

  38. @Steve Richter

    I wonder who ages the best?

    Freeman Dyson came up with some mathematical breakthrough when pushing 90. Jacques Barzun published his biggest bestseller in this 90s.

    • Replies: @Steve Richter
  39. @istevefan

    The percentage of the white Democratic vote will drop below 50% in either 2020 or 2024.

    • Replies: @Carmichael
  40. @songbird

    One time I had to check my bags in Johannesburg.

    The airline rep I dealt with was in traditional dress.

    It was weird, and I couldn’t help but wonder if I was on Candid Camera.

  41. Art Deco says:
    @Arclight

    Steny Hoyer is a substantially better political tactician than Pelosi and I assume Clyburn,

    Hoyer is nearly 80 years old and has held public office almost continuously since 1962. He also represents Prince George’s County, Maryland, where blacks are a comfortable majority and you have a critical mass of professional-managerial blacks. It’s not hard to imagine there’s an ambitious local pol therein who is going to get tired of waiting for a man who could have collected an agreeable pension a dozen years ago to step aside.

  42. @Eric Novak

    True, but the bulk of future Democratic voters will be Latinos, not Blacks.

  43. Tiny Duck says:

    People of Color get along great and work together for the betterment of society. There is no “war”

    Its white men who are the problem

    • Troll: Mr. Rational
  44. Brutusale says:
    @indocon

    A guy named Santos from that particular area is probably Portuguese.

    Forget probably:

    https://www.santosforcongress.com/about.html

  45. position him as the Moses

    One thing that’s always bothered me about the MLK-as-Moses analogy, is that Moses led his followers out of the land of their enslavers.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  46. You don’t feel an obligation to reach out to that community and let them know what’s in it for them if you were to get elected?’ ” Clyburn recalled saying to the candidate. …

    This is why multiracial societies don’t work unless the different races all think they are part of a greater nation. Even the UK, where the Welsh, English, Scots and Irish look pretty much alike and have pretty similar IQs, had (and still has at a pretty low level) trouble between English and Welsh/Scots/Irish. Irish trouble being nastiest, then Scottish, while the Welsh mostly save it for the rugby field.

  47. @DevOps Dad

    Jonah Goldberg today

    Says Mr. Goldberg:

    Think of it this way: Would you want your kids to go to a school where the white kids were taught that the slightest racial insensitivity was a profound sin but all the non-white kids were free to say whatever they wanted about the white kids?

    Says me: Huh? Most of our kids already go to that school!

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  48. fondolo says:

    Republicans, if they lose the majority, should unify to prevent Clyburn from stealing the place that rightfully belongs to Maxine Waters. Let’s make it fun.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  49. EdwardM says:

    there’s every indication it would vote as a 40-plus-member bloc. …

    Really going out on a limb there.

  50. Bill B. says:

    A very disingenuous and quite strange piece by FT columnist Janan Ganesh claiming that Trump the bigot has forced the nice “technocrat” Dems to recognize race. He is blind to the notion that whites might have an interest in not wishing to become a minority in their own country yet see that the Dems, giving up on poor whites, will become a party of the fringes ‘topped” with liberal whites.

    Does he read iSteve? Anyway this could become the progressive party line: Trump’s made the Dems racist.

    Kamala Harris, a senator from California and another presidential prospect, resents the term “identity politics”. It belittles the seriousness of race (and gender) inequities, she argues. Georgia’s Stacey Abrams, who could become the first black woman to govern a state, is building a coalition of minority voters, topped up with liberal whites. If it works in November, it could be a template for the national party.

    After Mr Trump’s election two years ago, Democrats were advised by the likes of Mark Lilla, a professor of humanities at Columbia University, to reject the Balkanisation of the electorate in favour of a universal offering.

    The most obvious reason why they did not was Mr Trump’s conduct in office. It sapped the Democrats’ belief that race could ever be transcended. If the president’s travel bans and quarrels with black athletes did not demand an explicit defence of minorities, then Charlottesville did…

    As for the party’s wariness of the white voter, demographic change is easing it. Some Democrats believe the ethnic diversification of certain states, such as Georgia and Arizona, is re-painting them from Republican red to, if not Democratic blue, then the pale mauve of electoral competitiveness. These projections assume rather a lot. And as a political strategy, it also forfeits working class whites, as though a pitch to them is not worth the discomfort it would cause the metropolitan left. Still, demographics point to a more minority-facing Democratic party.

    https://www.ft.com/content/1541a2f0-a063-11e8-85da-eeb7a9ce36e4

  51. @Steve Sailer

    It might be very important for an ethnic group that its older members retain vigor and ambition in the 2nd half of their life. The older farmer or tradesman being able to supervise and pass on their knowledge to the younger guys. And having enough toughness to maintain some semblance of order in the community.

  52. @Hail

    Pretty sure both is the plan.

    • Replies: @Hail
  53. @International Jew

    Been that way for awhile. The new hotness is that the racial insensitivity is taken as a given so that the purging sin fun can go on 24/7.

  54. @Tiny Duck

    So, Tiny, besides “electing a new (superior) people” through mass immigration from the ever-victimized though morally & culturally / intellectually unsurpassed Global South — what other solution (of a final character) do you have in mind with respect to the genetically inferior and hopelessly obsolete breed of stupid, thieving, uncultured, murderous, weak, fragile, unjust, oppressive, goblinesque, mayonnaise-like, exploitative, deviant, deplorable, monstrous, verminous, impure, pale and stale males of European extraction?

  55. @DevOps Dad

    Who, exactly is Jonah Goldberg’s audience these days? William Kristol?

    Tiny Duck has more worthwhile things to say than JG.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  56. @Whiskey

    You mis-spelled “afro-turf campaign”.

  57. @Tiny Duck

    People of Color get along great

    As long as they’re in an electoral alliance against white people. But when push comes to shove…

  58. More recent love between people of color, who get along so great:

  59. Romanian says: • Website
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    Aren’t those the colors of the main slave trading tribe from the area that supplied the Americas, the Ashanti? Kind of ironic.

  60. Hail says: • Website
    @Desiderius

    Here is what I find from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, released 2017:

    - 24% of Hindus voted for Trump in Nov. 2016
    - 15% of Muslims voted for Trump (but he did call for a Muslim Ban)
    - 17% of Buddhists voted for Trump, and almost 10% for Jill Stein
    - 27% of Jews voted for Trump
    - This acc. to a major 2016 election survey with total sample size = 64,600
    - I note that all of these are approximately reverse mirror-images of White Evangelical Protestant vote (76-19 Trump-Hillary, or 80% Trump in two-way race). Welcome to the world of elections as an ethnic census.

    The survey has an unusually large sample of Hindus (320), Buddhists (803), and Muslims (471, of which 78 are self-identified Nation of Islam ‘Black Muslims’). I don’t know if this survey was intended to be weighted according to population/voter numbers for all groups (Jews seem to be proportional to population numbers, with 1,170 Jews surveyed [=2.6%]). Muslim+Hindu are only a combined 1.2%, and Muslim+Hindu+Buddhist are 2.5% (higher Buddhist numbers may be inflated by White hippie types).

  61. Marty T says:
    @AndrewR

    We want them to overreach. That will help Trump be re-elected. Let’s hope for full scale war.

  62. @istevefan

    One thing I have noticed kicking around these hyar Intertubes is Black people grossly overestimate their importance to almost everything they are involved with.

  63. MBlanc46 says:

    This is something that Tiny Duck and I might agree on, though for very different reasons.

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