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This looks promising:

I presume this is about the origins in the 1950s of that upscale all-black neighborhood in Baldwin Hills south of Beverly Hills that I’ve mentioned before.

 
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  1. anon[230] • Disclaimer says:

    Not about block-busting in Chicago?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  2. Anon[428] • Disclaimer says:

    I’d rather hear a story about someone who always wanted to be a banker, but could never become a banker. BTW what’s so interesting about being a banker?

  3. @anon

    It looks like blockbusting in L.A.

    There’s a hillside neighborhood in Baldwin Hills with nice views of Beverly Hills that switched over from 100% white upper middle class to 100% black upper middle class, so that’s a more upbeat story than the usual, like the Austin neighborhood on the West Side of Chicago.

  4. @Steve Sailer

    But will they have scenes where the upper class blacks deliberately and ruthlessly exclude their low-brow cousins and assorted other family members from coming in to the neighborhood?

    Truth v. The Narrative.

  5. I can’t wait to not see it.

    • LOL: fish

  6. It would be cool to see a movie about Eddie Anderson/Rochester some day. He didn’t exactly suffer.

    He’s working with Benny, Blanc, etc. Not chopped liver.

  7. @Anon

    I’d rather hear a story about someone who always wanted to be a banker, but could never become a banker.

    Even better: a story about someone who always wanted to be a banker, but who died of acute hæmorrhagic fever in his mid-twenties.

    Working title: “Up-front Karma, Bitch.

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  8. istevefan says:

    …who created an real estate empire buying homes in all-white neighborhoods and selling them back to Blacks in the 1950s…

    I never understood the need to move into White neighborhoods. If they had the funds why not build new homes in undeveloped areas and create their own communities? They could have avoided a lot of problems to both themselves and their new White neighbors.

  9. Kronos says:
    @Anon

    Everyone in town owes you money. If they miss a mortgage payment *you’re* house belongs to them.”’

  10. Buck says:

    I’ll most likely be red-lining that movie.

    However, I am looking forward to its sequel “The Gentry” about the first gay couple to enter the ‘hood in 1992 and buy up houses at 1950’s prices flipping them for huge profits.

    It just has a happier ending than the first one.

  11. If Laurence Fishburne hadn’t gotten so damned fat I bet he would be getting some of those roles that Samuel Jackson gets. Fishburne is more credible as an intelligent person than is Jackson.

  12. Thomm says:

    This is the perfect movie for WN wiggers, as it hits all their key buttons.

  13. Anon[587] • Disclaimer says:

    that upscale all-black neighborhood in Baldwin Hills south of Beverly Hills

    It’s south of Beverly Hills only in the sense that it’s east of Marina Del Rey or north of LAX. It’s nowhere near Beverly Hills. The entire city of San Francisco could fit between Beverly Hills and Baldwin Hills. The two sets of “hills” in question are geologically unrelated.

    I like to think of it as east of the old Fedco and northeast of the old Inglewood oil field, very Raymond Chandleresque, many grasshopper pumps, a nice backdrop for the 1984 Olympic marathons.

    I think it would have been interesting for a white anthropoligist to move in and see how many “white” norms were followed in Baldwin Hills. From just driving through it, it seemed to me like the local social, neighborhood behavior and rules were pretty much the same as any white community of the era.

    • Agree: Alden
  14. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:

    Some years ago the Times, local TV channels and assorted media outlets would publish designated black commentators/columnists for city beat topics who always hailed from Baldwin Hills, Leimert Park, Inglewood area, somehow… Although architecturally quite pleasant, with plenty of 30-foot palm trees, it’s far afield of a “representative” slice of Greater Los Angeles (read: Latinx joyerias vs. SAT-boosting liquor stores). Another genteel black neighborhood that hung on was North Pas:
    https://la.curbed.com/2017/11/14/16652874/jackie-robinson-home-pasadena-for-sale

  15. Lurker says:
    @Anon

    BTW what’s so interesting about being a banker?

    “Because that’s where the money is”

  16. Andy says:

    “Heroes” like this made white Americans flee their once great historical cities

  17. @Anon

    San Francisco is tiny; a bit less than seven miles square (its area is 47.355 square miles; I checked) your use of it to demonstrate the distance between Beverly Hills and Baldwin Hills is disingenuous and misleading to those unfamiliar with Mexinchifornia.

    You are asserting the two areas are less than seven miles apart as evidence they are “nowhere near” each other. Knowing that was goofy as all Hell, I verified the distance: Baldwin Hills is just under five miles from Beverly Hills.

    If you meant merely to assert the two are not adjacent, you might have written that; instead you wrote a lot of nonsense to confuse the average reader.

    Please refrain from writing about geography in the future.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @OFWHAP
  18. @Anon

    Right, Baldwin Hills is 7 miles south of Beverly Hills.

  19. So is the sequel where Hispanics take over the neighborhood in the works? Will it be part of a trilogy, which ends with white hipsters crowding out the Hispanics?

  20. @istevefan

    Probably the problems are linked to children – schools and street crime. While building some new houses and a new neighborhood wouldn’t be too tough, what do you do about the schools for your kids and how do you find an area cheap enough to build up that also has no street crime. Home schooling would be an incredible advance for most black families, except that they are crushed by their own divorce rates, and their kids will never get the chance.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Barnard
  21. Are you sure it wasn’t Compton?

    Interesting fact: Douglas Dollarhide (IKR), former mayor of Compton, was the first black man elected mayor of a major metropolitan California city.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Alden
  22. @istevefan

    I never understood the need to move into White neighborhoods. If they had the funds why not build new homes in undeveloped areas and create their own communities?

    Why don’t you explain to us how they would have accumlated the funds in the first place if they had not bought and flipped properties in white neighborhoods?

  23. Anon[280] • Disclaimer says:
    @Autochthon

    disingenuous and misleading

    Steve has made the “Beverly Hills”/“Baldwin Hill” connection before, and in the sense that Baldwin Hills is socio-economically a sort of black Beverly Hills, fine (although Cheviot Hills or Beverlywood are closer in that sense). But the narrative that this is because of physical proximity to Beverly Hills is “disingenuous and misleading” in a socio-geograpahical sense. Steve is a Valley boy. I’m a West L.A. boy. On the ground, to people in the Basin, Baldwin Hills is a long way from Beverly Hills, even the shabby southern part of Beverly Hills. Take a place that Beverly Hills is literally next to: In West Hollywood you can eat at Danny’s Oki Dog while getting a blowjob in broad daylight. Proximity to Beverly Hills is not something you brag about.

  24. @Anon

    “In West Hollywood you can eat at Danny’s Oki Dog while getting a blowjob in broad daylight. ”

    Is this good or bad for property values?

  25. “The Banker.” Because “The Black Busters” didn’t test so well in focus groups.

  26. Art Deco says:
    @istevefan

    For the same reason anyone else wants to move into any given neighborhood. They see a piece of property they fancy which they can afford. The majority of blacks nowadays live outside of intense concentrations of blacks. Lots of people you could ask if your curiosity were more than rhetorical.

    • Replies: @nymom
  27. res says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Any idea how they pulled off that trick? Are there any other examples like that in the US? Prince George’s County in MD comes to mind at a bigger and lower (than UMC) level.

    Does R.G. Camara’s response match reality?

    • Replies: @Anon
  28. nymom says:
    @istevefan

    I’ve often wondered the same thing…

    Actually most groups of immigrants here do exactly that. Thus, the numerous Little Italys and Chinatowns scattered throughout the states.

    Why did every black person with any income need to leave Harlem??? Why couldn’t that have stayed in it as a Mecca of sorts for black culture. Same with New Orleans, Baltimore and numerous other areas. An area doesn’t improve because everyone with an income immediately moves out of it. Now, of course, that Whites are starting to move back into these places suddenly they are being accused of “Gentrifying the neighborhood”. Middle income blacks abandoned these neighborhoods instead of staying and helping build them into something to be proud of…

    Now they are mad at whites for moving back.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  29. @StAugustine

    Home schooling would be an incredible advance for most black families, except that they are crushed by their own divorce rates

    You can not put asunder what God hath never joined together.

  30. nymom says:
    @Art Deco

    Most people like living around large concentrations of people like themselves. So its a very reasonable question that istevefan asks…

    Why can’t black middle and upper class people live around their own people in their own neighborhoods like they are always trying to force others to do…

    Why can’t they send their kids to schools with their own people, be their neighbors, go to church with them, shop with them, etc.,

    Why do people like the Obamas as soon as they get the chance immediately buy houses in places like Martha’s Vineyard living cheek to cheek with the very people they claim are such a bunch of racists.

    Why couldn’t they get a house in Harlem or Baltimore or New Orleans and work to make these places something their people would be proud to live in…

    Now that would be an accomplishment.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Harry Baldwin
  31. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    People’s sense of granularity fades with distance. In the neighborhood that you live in, you may be sensitive to boundaries that are almost invisible to outsiders – on one side of the street the houses are pre-war and the lots are 3/4 acre, on the other side they are post-war and 1/2 acre. Maybe the demographics are different – the people who live on the north side of Main St. are slightly richer than those who live on the south side.

    But when you get to more distant neighborhoods in your own town, you may not be as aware of fine distinctions and in other cities you have no idea. So to you, someone intimately familiar with this part of LA, Baldwin Hills is not “next to” Beverly Hills – there are in fact several neighborhoods in between. But for someone who lives 3,000 miles away, they are pretty close, especially in the context of the 60 mile sprawl of the LA metro area.

    • Replies: @Fred C Dobbs
  32. @The Alarmist

    Interesting fact: Douglas Dollarhide (IKR), former mayor of Compton, was the first black man elected mayor of a major metropolitan California city.

    What would be a very interesting fact is when Compton was promoted to “a major metropolitan California city”. Is Lynwood?

    However, Compton would be the largest city in Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming, Maine, or Delaware, and second-largest in ten other states, including Maryland and Hawaii:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cities_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population

  33. Barnard says:
    @StAugustine

    Effective homeschooling is going to require well disciplined parents of above average intelligence. A parent needs to spend time planning what the children will learn and come up with methods to teach it. Other than talented tenth blacks, I don’t see homeschooling going well for them.

  34. @Steve Sailer

    I wonder if they’ll mention the Baldwin Hills dam failure as another reason people might have soured on the area (even if they weren’t one of the 277 households who lost their homes).

    One of the first things I recall watching on TV. KTLA Channel 5 put cameras up in their helicopter. No doubt Stan Chambers was there.

    BTW – Turns out this was only about 3 weeks after JFK’s assassination.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_Hills_Dam_disaster

  35. @Jack D

    I’m a California native. What are these 3/4 and 1/2 acre lots you speak of? =)

    • Replies: @Jack D
  36. OFWHAP says:
    @Autochthon

    San Francisco may be small, but it is certainly not a quick commute from one side of the city to the other. Given L.A.’s transportation situation, how long would it take to travel from Baldwin Hills to Beverly Hills? It’s not the distance on a map that matters; it’s the effort it takes to travel from one location to the other that matters.

  37. Art Deco says:
    @nymom

    Most people like living around large concentrations of people like themselves. So its a very reasonable question that istevefan asks…

    No, for some people that’s decisive, and for some it isn’t. Your question amounts to asking why does person X not have the preference set I think he should have. Since his preference set – to purchase a house he fancies and can afford – is benign, what’s it to you?

    • Replies: @nymom
  38. Jack D says:
    @Fred C Dobbs

    How about 3 and 1/2 acres?

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1011-N-Beverly-Dr-Beverly-Hills-CA-90210/20521968_zpid/

    There are more things in heaven and Earth, Fredratio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

  39. nymom says:
    @Art Deco

    Because your answer to istevefan seemed somewhat hostile like you were annoyed that he asked what was a very legitimate question…

  40. Art Deco says:
    @nymom

    Why did every black person with any income need to leave Harlem???

    The Census Bureau has it that the per capita income of blacks in the 19 counties around New York City is around $25,200. That’s about 20% above the Census Bureau’s estimate of the national mean for blacks and 20% below the Census Bureau’s estimate of the national mean for the general population.

    The area conventionally known as ‘Harlem’ runs between 110th street and 155th street (north to south) and between 5th avenue and the river (west to east), with the southwesterly corner (that area west of Morningside Ave. and south-southwest of Martin Luther King Blvd) clipped out. The area contains 112 census block groups (roughly 200,000 residents). They publish per capita income estimates on 105 block groups. They vary wildly and it looks like there are a lot of class and income microclimates. However, 48 block groups have per capita incomes above the metropolitan mean of the black population and 57 have per capita incomes below that mean.

    • Replies: @Alden
  41. Sean says:
    @istevefan

    They had to be kept in those neighbourhoods. Once the constraints came off all the able blacks left, and the old orderly black neighborhoods spiraled down into hell holes. The process is being repeated with black countries.

  42. Art Deco says:
    @nymom

    It’s a contrivedly obtuse question.

  43. @nymom

    Why do people like the Obamas as soon as they get the chance immediately buy houses in places like Martha’s Vineyard living cheek to cheek with the very people they claim are such a bunch of racists.

    During its season, Martha’s Vineyard has a sizable population of upper middle-class blacks, many of them academics, for the Obamas to socialize with.

  44. @nymom

    AD is both hostile and rude. You’ll get used to him. Please stick around, we need more women here.

    His shtick is the peevish guy with access to various search tools while huddled in his library, looking for trivial mistakes in people’s posts that he can correct by leading with “No…” or “Actually…” or “No, actually…”. If he’s not reflexively disagreeing with people or admonishing them for asking a question, he chimes in with granular levels of detail that don’t add anything to the overall discussion – such as his response to you beginning with “The Census Bureau has it that the per capita income of blacks in the 19 counties around New York City is…”

    As far as I can tell, he’s never actually been outside. Its to be expected from a man in a “profession” in which 99% of his peers are women (“Not a lot of men in your profession, huh Focker…”).

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Johnny Rico
  45. Art Deco says:
    @William Badwhite

    looking for trivial mistakes in people’s posts

    “Trivial mistakes” is evidently a term of art on these boards for what an ordinary person would call ‘completely misconceived and wrong on every point’.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  46. Pheasant says:
    @Anon

    ‘In West Hollywood you can eat at Danny’s Oki Dog while getting a blowjob in broad daylight’

    Why do I get the feeling you know this from personal experience?

  47. @William Badwhite

    That’s not a schtick. He is neither hostile or rude. He is one of the more intelligent and well read commenters on the site. This isn’t Facebook.

  48. Anon[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @res

    Here’s a Wikipedia article with a big list of “black neighborhoods.” If the neighborhoods could be matched up with census data and sorted by income, and then the origin story looked into, that could be an interesting project.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_neighborhoods

    I found this looking for the name of an upper middle class back neighborhood in, I believe, Houston, but there are 30 or 40 neighborhoods listed, and I’ve long forgotten the name.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  49. @Anon

    My very fuzzy recollection is that in 1979 the nice black neighborhood in Houston was midway between Rice U. and the U. of Houston.

  50. Neoconned says:
    @Anon

    You mean lapd doesn’t enforce public decency laws in West Hollywood? I can get a back alley encounter but they allow that shut in front of families, tourists and children?

  51. @Art Deco

    There was nothing fact-based in the exchange. You were not correcting anything, you were admonishing the original poster for asking a question you evidently found annoying.

    Instead of four additional replies full of your shrewish librarian scold act such as “it’s a contrivedly obtuse question” you could always just…not reply. You should try it more often.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  52. Art Deco says:
    @William Badwhite

    Instead of four additional replies full of your shrewish librarian scold act such as “it’s a contrivedly obtuse question” you could always just…not reply. You should try it more often.

    “Shrewish librarian scold act” would be (1) a bland three sentence reply to a rhetorical question posed by istevefan; (2) a two paragraph response to an assertion by nymom, which, if you’d bothered to read it, was factual because she said something with a faulty premise; (3) a three sentence reply to a rhetorical question posed by nymom; (4) a one sentence reply to nymom, who addressed a complaint to me personally (which seems to bother you); (5) a one sentence reply to your rant; (6) this reply to your follow up rant.

    Not sure why I have so much rent-free space in a couple of poster’s heads.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  53. @Art Deco

    108 words affirming your commitment to being a smug asshole librarian.

  54. Alden says:

    That upscale black neighborhood of Baldwin Hills Bear the airport was an upscale White neighborhood in 1963. . Then the violence and terrorism of the 1964 Watts riots happened a few miles east and south and the Whites fled to the safety of Orange County and Sherman Oaks.

    Just another example of the organized persecution of Whites as we were driven from the great American cities by the double whammy of black violence and terrorism and Jewish lawfare.

    I assume Jackson will do another long boring cursing swearing monologue his only forte

  55. Alden says:
    @Art Deco

    Another Wikipedia clipper and paster

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  56. Alden says:
    @The Alarmist

    Compton is a tiny little town. An infamous black ghetto. But now, thanks be to God and all the Saints civilized Hispanics moved in and reformed the town. Immigration is not good but much, much, much better than blacks.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  57. Alden says:
    @Anon

    W Hollywood is directly east of Robinson. The area west of Beverly Hills is very nice. I thought the Russian alleged refugees drove the gays out of W Hollywood?

  58. @Alden

    Cut the bruthas some slack… they built this country, for heaven’s sake, and now the Man is giving it away, selling them once again down the river.

  59. Art Deco says:
    @Alden

    Don’t think I’ve ever quoted it here or anywhere else except for election results, as it’s the preferred reporting channel for this group: https://www.ifes.org/

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