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The statespersons of Europe seem baffled over what to do to prevent a large fraction of the 1.1 billion people of Africa from climbing into boats and inundating the heart of Christendom.

One possibility, however, is to do what the Australian government has done with a fair degree of success: post a video on Youtube telling would be Camp of Saintsers that they won’t be let into Australia, so don’t bother trying.

It’s so crazy it just seems to be working!

 
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  1. Romanian says:

    This is about illegal immigration. One can argue that Australia also has a problem with the number of legal immigrants it is taking in, as exemplified by their small but consistent contribution to ISIS’ ranks.

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  2. Bert says:

    I guess Australians realize that people need water in order to live. And their scorching barren rock has but a small amount of it.

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  3. Felix says:

    Makes sense. Australia is going to be majority Asian before 2050 due to the massive waves of (legal) immigration their government is currently implementing. Everyone knows that Asians do not like third world immigrants, so the Oz gov. is simply securing the inheritance on behalf of the future Asian majority.

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    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Yes, it's the privilege they fathers fought the Japanese for in the '40s--to be taken over peacefully by the next '40s.
    , @dsgntd_plyr
    "Australia is going to be majority Asian before 2050 due to the massive waves of (legal) immigration their government is currently implementing. "

    There are about 1.67 times as many Brits moving to Australia as Chinese and Indians combined:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Australia#Country_of_birth_of_Australian_residents Brits + New Zealanders is well over 2.4:1; see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Australia#Ancestry_of_Australian_population

    And that's not even with a population adjustment. If I did that the ration would be what? 10:1? Google is your friend.
  4. KFoy says:

    In all fairness Australian situation is very different. Most of these migrants trying to get into Europe are not in fact Africans but Syrians who are facing such despair that they don’t even care about the risks of failing or dying. The anarchy in Libya due to toppling of Gaddafi regime is the main cause of the surge in recent years.

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    • Replies: @Vendetta
    You're full of it. Syrians aren't the people who pack 400 onto a leaky boat built for 70.
    , @KFoy
    Its also worth mentioning that the only 'safe' way a black African can move through a north African country is with human traffickers, and its quite expensive. Also there are lot less blacks in Libya now, another result of toppling Gaddafi.
    , @mark
    Even if they were Syrians, why Australia? It is literally the other side of the Earth from Syria. There are lots of wealthy Arab countries that should take them in.
  5. Hot damn do I love that video and the policy it articulates! Can we forego Saban-bot Hillary and Adelson-bot Jeb and have an American version of the guy in the video as our next president, pretty please?

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  6. Lagertha says:

    Yes, it was such a compelling message! “No”… a younger version of Farmer Hoggett telling traffickers and refugee boat people that they will just be taken back to Africa if no visa.

    And, of course, Australia included, has problems with current immigrants whose children are ISIS-bound…but to now have possible years of people coming in all kinds of ramshackle boats, rusted 60′s and 70′s ships, well, that does need to be stopped. Crummy ships will sink and people will die, so intercepting them and sending them back is the humane thing to do.

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    • Replies: @Big Bill
    I think the Muslim Sheik in Australia wore out the Muslim welcome when he defended the Muslim raper boys a few years ago during the Sydney Gang Rapes:

    There were women, he said, who 'sway suggestively' and wore make-up and immodest dress "and then you get a judge without mercy and gives you 65 years. But the problem, but the problem all began with who?" he said, referring to the women victims.

    Addressing 500 worshippers on the topic of adultery, Sheik al-Hilali added: "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it..whose fault is it - the cats or the uncovered meat?

    "The uncovered meat is the problem."

    He went on: "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab (veil), no problem would have occurred."

    Women, he said, were 'weapons' used by Satan to control men.
     
    Tough new laws were passed and sympathy for Muslims evaporated.
  7. Vendetta says:
    @KFoy
    In all fairness Australian situation is very different. Most of these migrants trying to get into Europe are not in fact Africans but Syrians who are facing such despair that they don't even care about the risks of failing or dying. The anarchy in Libya due to toppling of Gaddafi regime is the main cause of the surge in recent years.

    You’re full of it. Syrians aren’t the people who pack 400 onto a leaky boat built for 70.

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  8. Twinkie says:

    This is about illegal immigration. One can argue that Australia also has a problem with the number of legal immigrants it is taking in, as exemplified by their small but consistent contribution to ISIS’ ranks.

    Yes.

    Australia has a very high percentage of foreign-born population (http://www.oecd.org/publications/factbook/38336539.pdf), even higher than that of the United States. Indeed, Australia has the highest rate among the OECD countries (only Switzerland comes close, but it has high resident foreign population and much lower naturalization rate)). But the trend line is flatter than that in the U.S.

    Percentages of foreign-born populations

    Australia: 23% (1995), 23% (2000), and 23.6% (2004)
    The U.S.: 9.3% (1995), 11% (2000), and 12.8% (2004)

    Australia also has a higher naturalization rate: 68.4% as of 2000 vs. 46.4% in the U.S.

    The video would be even more effective, if the man were wearing a rifle and other “aggressive-looking” military gear (maybe a few frag grenades on his chest), no?

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    • Replies: @silviosilver

    Australia has a very high percentage of foreign-born population, even higher than that of the United States.
     
    But a much higher proportion of that foreign-born population is of European origin (particularly British).
  9. KFoy says:
    @KFoy
    In all fairness Australian situation is very different. Most of these migrants trying to get into Europe are not in fact Africans but Syrians who are facing such despair that they don't even care about the risks of failing or dying. The anarchy in Libya due to toppling of Gaddafi regime is the main cause of the surge in recent years.

    Its also worth mentioning that the only ‘safe’ way a black African can move through a north African country is with human traffickers, and its quite expensive. Also there are lot less blacks in Libya now, another result of toppling Gaddafi.

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  10. KFoy says:
    @Vendetta
    You're full of it. Syrians aren't the people who pack 400 onto a leaky boat built for 70.

    Yeah the people smugglers they pay do that.

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    • Replies: @Vendetta
    All right, I'll stand corrected - seems to be a new trend for the Syrians to start doing what the Africans do.
  11. Great ad, I hadn’t seen this one. White Australians, though, are as racially witless as whites anywhere else. As in Canada the legal arrivals are generally well-liked or at least found tolerable – with some notable exceptions, of course – and the country is so large that kicking the can down the road and telling yourself everything will work itself out is a cinch.

    Still, there are definitely pockets of defiant realists and resistors. What a joy it can be to discover them. A friend of mine has a gas station out in a country town and when I visit him and the topic of illegal arrivals comes up he likes to try to embarrass me in front of his customers by pointing to me and saying, “He reckons we should just sink their boats.” About half the customers smile awkwardly and it’s clear they don’t want to talk about it. Others laugh more wholeheartedly. A handful believe they’ve come across a confederate (me) and really open up and let loose.

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Canada is a large country in the same way that Australia is: lots of mostly uninhabited wasteland.
  12. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Quite. All you need to do to stop most illegal immigration is say anyone who arrives illegally has no chance of citizenship.

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    • Replies: @Paul Mendez
    All you need to do to stop most illegal immigration is say anyone who arrives illegally has no chance of citizenship.

    Not true. Most illegal aliens don't care if they ever become citizens. All they want is to be able to enjoy the benefits of living and working here. Besides, all their children born here will automatically become citizens.
  13. Frau Katze says: • Website

    Australia has done more than release a film. They stopped the boat traffic from Indonesia to Christmas Island by sending them back. They transferred the boat people into expensive seaworthy lifeboats and pointed them north.

    After the people smugglers realized this was going to happen every time they gave up.

    True, they’re still taking legals, but there is more control there over who gets in. See this article on the lifeboat plan. Includes photo.

    http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/mar/05/orange-lifeboats-used-to-return-asylum-seekers-to-be-replaced-by-fishing-boats

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  14. Big Bill says:
    @Lagertha
    Yes, it was such a compelling message! "No"... a younger version of Farmer Hoggett telling traffickers and refugee boat people that they will just be taken back to Africa if no visa.

    And, of course, Australia included, has problems with current immigrants whose children are ISIS-bound...but to now have possible years of people coming in all kinds of ramshackle boats, rusted 60's and 70's ships, well, that does need to be stopped. Crummy ships will sink and people will die, so intercepting them and sending them back is the humane thing to do.

    I think the Muslim Sheik in Australia wore out the Muslim welcome when he defended the Muslim raper boys a few years ago during the Sydney Gang Rapes:

    There were women, he said, who ‘sway suggestively’ and wore make-up and immodest dress “and then you get a judge without mercy and gives you 65 years. But the problem, but the problem all began with who?” he said, referring to the women victims.

    Addressing 500 worshippers on the topic of adultery, Sheik al-Hilali added: “If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it..whose fault is it – the cats or the uncovered meat?

    “The uncovered meat is the problem.”

    He went on: “If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab (veil), no problem would have occurred.”

    Women, he said, were ‘weapons’ used by Satan to control men.

    Tough new laws were passed and sympathy for Muslims evaporated.

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    • Replies: @silviosilver

    Tough new laws were passed and sympathy for Muslims evaporated.
     
    The riots in 2005 were the high-water mark of open anti-muslim sentiment. It's definitely gone underground since then. Among younger whites (WASP-types, at that) I hear sympathetic views expressed incomparably more often than I did twenty years ago. I don't mean sympathetic in the sense of actually liking muslims (though that is not unknown), but sympathetic in the sense of 'get off their case will ya.'
  15. Dew says:

    These days I cant imagine any U.S. politician or offical attempting something like this. Do those refugees even watch YouTube?

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    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    I have yet to visit a country that does not have an internet cafe. Even Myanmar. In Malaysia, youths seemed to spend a lot of their time there.
  16. if everyone who wants less immigration would just put anti-immigrant stickers and signs on their cars, it would cause a media brouhaha that would be noticed in mexico and other sources of immigration.
    If mexicans knew that half of american cars had signs on them that say “Latinos, Go Home”, a lot of them would not come here.

    But the Dissident Right and GOP don’t really seem interested in actually doing anything about the problem, but instead just prefer to grouse about it.

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    • Replies: @27 year old
    hey bro, tell you what, i'll pay to have somebody print up the sticker, and you can put it on your car, and drive it to work, and everywhere else...
    , @Auntie Analogue
    My dear leftist conservative: you first. Go ahead, glom that "Latinos, Go Home" sticker on your car. See how long it takes for your car to be vandalized, torched or stolen by La Raza-tinos or by some ethnomasochist American Open Borders "Kumbaya"-chanting "Progressives."

    As if you hadn't heard of the "anti-rape culture" campus "Progressives" vandalizing Haven Monahan's UVA frat house?
  17. @Twinkie

    This is about illegal immigration. One can argue that Australia also has a problem with the number of legal immigrants it is taking in, as exemplified by their small but consistent contribution to ISIS’ ranks.
     
    Yes.

    Australia has a very high percentage of foreign-born population (http://www.oecd.org/publications/factbook/38336539.pdf), even higher than that of the United States. Indeed, Australia has the highest rate among the OECD countries (only Switzerland comes close, but it has high resident foreign population and much lower naturalization rate)). But the trend line is flatter than that in the U.S.

    Percentages of foreign-born populations

    Australia: 23% (1995), 23% (2000), and 23.6% (2004)
    The U.S.: 9.3% (1995), 11% (2000), and 12.8% (2004)

    Australia also has a higher naturalization rate: 68.4% as of 2000 vs. 46.4% in the U.S.

    The video would be even more effective, if the man were wearing a rifle and other "aggressive-looking" military gear (maybe a few frag grenades on his chest), no?

    Australia has a very high percentage of foreign-born population, even higher than that of the United States.

    But a much higher proportion of that foreign-born population is of European origin (particularly British).

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    • Replies: @Twinkie

    But a much higher proportion of that foreign-born population is of European origin (particularly British).
     
    But isn't Australia also taking in a large number of Asian immigrants?

    I would argue skill-based migrants from Europe, South Africa, and Asia (the Australian and perhaps Canadian immigration policy) are much better than family reunification- and illegally-based migrants from Latin America (as is the case in the U.S.).

    Regardless, high foreign-born population rate is not conducive to social cohesion and assimilation, not to forget high native wage level.
    , @Hibernian
    A large proportion of Australians are Irish Catholics. Like me.
  18. @Big Bill
    I think the Muslim Sheik in Australia wore out the Muslim welcome when he defended the Muslim raper boys a few years ago during the Sydney Gang Rapes:

    There were women, he said, who 'sway suggestively' and wore make-up and immodest dress "and then you get a judge without mercy and gives you 65 years. But the problem, but the problem all began with who?" he said, referring to the women victims.

    Addressing 500 worshippers on the topic of adultery, Sheik al-Hilali added: "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it..whose fault is it - the cats or the uncovered meat?

    "The uncovered meat is the problem."

    He went on: "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab (veil), no problem would have occurred."

    Women, he said, were 'weapons' used by Satan to control men.
     
    Tough new laws were passed and sympathy for Muslims evaporated.

    Tough new laws were passed and sympathy for Muslims evaporated.

    The riots in 2005 were the high-water mark of open anti-muslim sentiment. It’s definitely gone underground since then. Among younger whites (WASP-types, at that) I hear sympathetic views expressed incomparably more often than I did twenty years ago. I don’t mean sympathetic in the sense of actually liking muslims (though that is not unknown), but sympathetic in the sense of ‘get off their case will ya.’

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  19. I’m glad I don’t live in Australia. If I did, I would have to change my views on immigration in order to stay on the wrong side of history.

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  20. @Dew
    These days I cant imagine any U.S. politician or offical attempting something like this. Do those refugees even watch YouTube?

    I have yet to visit a country that does not have an internet cafe. Even Myanmar. In Malaysia, youths seemed to spend a lot of their time there.

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  21. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @silviosilver
    Great ad, I hadn't seen this one. White Australians, though, are as racially witless as whites anywhere else. As in Canada the legal arrivals are generally well-liked or at least found tolerable - with some notable exceptions, of course - and the country is so large that kicking the can down the road and telling yourself everything will work itself out is a cinch.

    Still, there are definitely pockets of defiant realists and resistors. What a joy it can be to discover them. A friend of mine has a gas station out in a country town and when I visit him and the topic of illegal arrivals comes up he likes to try to embarrass me in front of his customers by pointing to me and saying, "He reckons we should just sink their boats." About half the customers smile awkwardly and it's clear they don't want to talk about it. Others laugh more wholeheartedly. A handful believe they've come across a confederate (me) and really open up and let loose.

    Canada is a large country in the same way that Australia is: lots of mostly uninhabited wasteland.

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    • Replies: @silviosilver
    Yes, I know. But there is still plenty of very habitable but uninhabited land. And rather like quantity having a quality all its own, the size of the place makes it very easy for people to imagine "we'll never run out of room" - meaning they expect they can always flee to some part whiter if the heat in the kitchen gets too much. Also, in Canada's case global warming can be expected to make vast new expanses fit for human habitation.
  22. can’t they take back kylie minogue

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    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Maybe Kylie Minogue can do an updated version of one of her hits but with lyrics full of warnings and threats? It could be called Your Disco Needs You (But Australia Doesn't) .
  23. @Felix
    Makes sense. Australia is going to be majority Asian before 2050 due to the massive waves of (legal) immigration their government is currently implementing. Everyone knows that Asians do not like third world immigrants, so the Oz gov. is simply securing the inheritance on behalf of the future Asian majority.

    Yes, it’s the privilege they fathers fought the Japanese for in the ’40s–to be taken over peacefully by the next ’40s.

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  24. @leftist conservative
    if everyone who wants less immigration would just put anti-immigrant stickers and signs on their cars, it would cause a media brouhaha that would be noticed in mexico and other sources of immigration.
    If mexicans knew that half of american cars had signs on them that say "Latinos, Go Home", a lot of them would not come here.

    But the Dissident Right and GOP don't really seem interested in actually doing anything about the problem, but instead just prefer to grouse about it.

    hey bro, tell you what, i’ll pay to have somebody print up the sticker, and you can put it on your car, and drive it to work, and everywhere else…

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  25. @anon
    Quite. All you need to do to stop most illegal immigration is say anyone who arrives illegally has no chance of citizenship.

    All you need to do to stop most illegal immigration is say anyone who arrives illegally has no chance of citizenship.

    Not true. Most illegal aliens don’t care if they ever become citizens. All they want is to be able to enjoy the benefits of living and working here. Besides, all their children born here will automatically become citizens.

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  26. Unlike that Aussie general, it’s criminally tyrannous that our “American” generals utter this sort of deceitful rubbish: “”It would be a shame — as great a tragedy as this* was — it would be a shame if our diversity became a casualty as well.”

    *Nidal Hasan’s jihad mass-murder at Fort Hood, took the lives of thirteen Americans and one unborn child.

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    • Replies: @silviosilver

    it’s criminally tyrannous that our “American” generals utter this sort of deceitful rubbish: “”It would be a shame — as great a tragedy as this* was — it would be a shame if our diversity became a casualty as well.”
     
    Imagine that man rallying the troops.

    "Men, before we go into battle today, I want you to take a good look at the man standing next to you. Really look at him and reflect on just how you little you share in common. In fact, you share nothing in common - and you're a fool and a traitor if you think you do! This diversity is our secret weapon: with it we are unbeatable. But with unity and common bonds we are doomed. So as your commanding officer I remind you to remain ever vigilant against the temptation to imagine you are fighting for a greater whole - and that goes triply if you're white."
  27. @Dave Pinsen
    Canada is a large country in the same way that Australia is: lots of mostly uninhabited wasteland.

    Yes, I know. But there is still plenty of very habitable but uninhabited land. And rather like quantity having a quality all its own, the size of the place makes it very easy for people to imagine “we’ll never run out of room” – meaning they expect they can always flee to some part whiter if the heat in the kitchen gets too much. Also, in Canada’s case global warming can be expected to make vast new expanses fit for human habitation.

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  28. @leftist conservative
    if everyone who wants less immigration would just put anti-immigrant stickers and signs on their cars, it would cause a media brouhaha that would be noticed in mexico and other sources of immigration.
    If mexicans knew that half of american cars had signs on them that say "Latinos, Go Home", a lot of them would not come here.

    But the Dissident Right and GOP don't really seem interested in actually doing anything about the problem, but instead just prefer to grouse about it.

    My dear leftist conservative: you first. Go ahead, glom that “Latinos, Go Home” sticker on your car. See how long it takes for your car to be vandalized, torched or stolen by La Raza-tinos or by some ethnomasochist American Open Borders “Kumbaya”-chanting “Progressives.”

    As if you hadn’t heard of the “anti-rape culture” campus “Progressives” vandalizing Haven Monahan’s UVA frat house?

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  29. Twinkie says:
    @silviosilver

    Australia has a very high percentage of foreign-born population, even higher than that of the United States.
     
    But a much higher proportion of that foreign-born population is of European origin (particularly British).

    But a much higher proportion of that foreign-born population is of European origin (particularly British).

    But isn’t Australia also taking in a large number of Asian immigrants?

    I would argue skill-based migrants from Europe, South Africa, and Asia (the Australian and perhaps Canadian immigration policy) are much better than family reunification- and illegally-based migrants from Latin America (as is the case in the U.S.).

    Regardless, high foreign-born population rate is not conducive to social cohesion and assimilation, not to forget high native wage level.

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    • Replies: @silviosilver

    But isn’t Australia also taking in a large number of Asian immigrants?
     
    Yes, definitely. I was just pointing out it can be a little misleading - or premature - to look at the foreign-born proportion without being aware of how much of it is still European. Most of that European component is rapidly ageing so it's only got a few more census cycles in it before it drops off the radar.

    As for skills vs reunification, Australia does both. Because so many get in through skills, the subsequent reunification brings higher quality immigrants than would be the case without it.

    I'm resigned to Australia as I knew it eventually being lost to European civilization, but the size of the place gives me hope that some kind of mutually agreed racial federalization deal will be worked out some day. I consider Asians excellent candidates for such a deal, since they are accustomed to keeping to their own, not bothering whites and being decently courteous whenever interaction is required. If we join forces we can create a racial realist majority and essentially force everyone else to play ball. However imperfect a solution, it beats either total surrender or constant rancor.
  30. @Auntie Analogue
    Unlike that Aussie general, it's criminally tyrannous that our "American" generals utter this sort of deceitful rubbish: ""It would be a shame — as great a tragedy as this* was — it would be a shame if our diversity became a casualty as well."

    *Nidal Hasan's jihad mass-murder at Fort Hood, took the lives of thirteen Americans and one unborn child.

    it’s criminally tyrannous that our “American” generals utter this sort of deceitful rubbish: “”It would be a shame — as great a tragedy as this* was — it would be a shame if our diversity became a casualty as well.”

    Imagine that man rallying the troops.

    “Men, before we go into battle today, I want you to take a good look at the man standing next to you. Really look at him and reflect on just how you little you share in common. In fact, you share nothing in common – and you’re a fool and a traitor if you think you do! This diversity is our secret weapon: with it we are unbeatable. But with unity and common bonds we are doomed. So as your commanding officer I remind you to remain ever vigilant against the temptation to imagine you are fighting for a greater whole – and that goes triply if you’re white.”

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    • Replies: @Wilkey
    'Really look at him and reflect on just how you little you share in common. In fact, you share nothing in common – and you’re a fool and a traitor if you think you do! This diversity is our secret weapon: with it we are unbeatable."

    And yet, irony alert, supposedly the greatest American military units in WW2 were the most ethnically and racially cohesive: the 442nd Regimental Combat Team and the Tuskegee Airmen.

    The MSM loves to wax on about how awesomely effective these units are without ever grasping the apparent implications: that non-diversity was their strength, not their weakness.

    The next time someone lectures you about either remember to question the implications of "diversity is our strength" nonsense.

  31. @grey enlightenment
    can't they take back kylie minogue

    Maybe Kylie Minogue can do an updated version of one of her hits but with lyrics full of warnings and threats? It could be called Your Disco Needs You (But Australia Doesn’t) .

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  32. @Twinkie

    But a much higher proportion of that foreign-born population is of European origin (particularly British).
     
    But isn't Australia also taking in a large number of Asian immigrants?

    I would argue skill-based migrants from Europe, South Africa, and Asia (the Australian and perhaps Canadian immigration policy) are much better than family reunification- and illegally-based migrants from Latin America (as is the case in the U.S.).

    Regardless, high foreign-born population rate is not conducive to social cohesion and assimilation, not to forget high native wage level.

    But isn’t Australia also taking in a large number of Asian immigrants?

    Yes, definitely. I was just pointing out it can be a little misleading – or premature – to look at the foreign-born proportion without being aware of how much of it is still European. Most of that European component is rapidly ageing so it’s only got a few more census cycles in it before it drops off the radar.

    As for skills vs reunification, Australia does both. Because so many get in through skills, the subsequent reunification brings higher quality immigrants than would be the case without it.

    I’m resigned to Australia as I knew it eventually being lost to European civilization, but the size of the place gives me hope that some kind of mutually agreed racial federalization deal will be worked out some day. I consider Asians excellent candidates for such a deal, since they are accustomed to keeping to their own, not bothering whites and being decently courteous whenever interaction is required. If we join forces we can create a racial realist majority and essentially force everyone else to play ball. However imperfect a solution, it beats either total surrender or constant rancor.

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    • Replies: @LondonBob
    East Asians don't reproduce themselves and often intermarry, they won't takeover.

    Encouragingly Australia is being cited by the media in Britain as the example to imitate.
  33. Daniel H says:

    Too bad General Campbell wasn’t born in Kenya, otherwise we could draft him to run for president in 2016.

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  34. Luke Lea says:

    I had an “Immigration Moratorium” bumper sticker on my car for a couple of years with very little response pro or con. I think I’ll try again with “End Immigration Now.”

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    • Replies: @Beach
    Luke, you are assuming that the vast majority of people understand the meaning of "moratorium." Not understanding, and therefore unsure of your position on immigration, they ignore it. I'll bet you'd get more response with your second try.
  35. Tom_R says:

    WHY AND HOW ITALY MUST FORCE BOATS WITH REFUGEES TO RETURN.

    Thanks for the info, Steve. Yes, that is a good idea, because news spread and people are governed by the carrot or the stick. If people believe they will be returned, they will not waste their time on a long journey.

    These hoardes of alien invaders coming to Europe illegally on boats and ships are basically invading Europe. That is an act of war and European nations such as Italy and Greece have a right to fire at these boats and sink them. Once they do that, the message will go to these invaders that invasion is not accepted and they will stop risking their lives or make these hazardous journey.

    Letting them in, giving them asylum, rescuing them, or even processing them and then returning them are not good ideas as they all encourage more immigrants to try to enter and only makes the problem worse.

    European nations must use their navies to patrol their coastal waters and prevent these alien ships and boats from entering. As soon as they come close, European naval forces can blockade these ships, and order them to return. If they do not return, the European Navy officers can board them and arrest the captain (who can then be tried and executed summarily for invasion, which should be made a capital offense) and one of them can take the ship back to Libya or tow it back to Libya or wherever they came from and let the migrants back into their country. If that does not work, the Navy can fire on the ship and torpedo it, because it is a basic right of every nation to protect itself from invasion, which is exactly what this is. They just have to do this a few times, and the word will spread.

    Unless and until this is done, Europe will be overrun with Africans, who will rape, murder and kill white women. White men must stand up and defend their nation from this invasion. PLs. write to your politicians and DEMAND all immigration be banned, all aliens be deported and this crime against humanity must end. We must never vote for any politician who panders or supports this alien invasion.

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    Europe is doomed, and I predicted somewhat this scenario years ago, and was laughed by Steve's commenters. Who is laughing now?

    Italy and Greece don't care about mass Third World immigration -- the immigrants don't stay there they move north under the Schengen Free Movement agreement to: Britain, the Netherlands, Norway, Germany, etc. Welfare is much, much higher there.

    Politicians LOVE LOVE LOVE Mass African immigration, as it gives the Center-Left that much more clients to use against their real enemy: Working Class White (Men in particular).

    Europe has no real navy, nor do constituent nations like Italy, France, Greece, Spain, etc. Europe has even less will to allow people to die rather than be over-run. For that matter, Labor in Australia promises to undo the current government's policy of returning refugees and opening up Australia to all comers, and Labor proposes anti-"hate" laws that essentially criminalizes any criticism whatsoever of Muslims just as in Britain.

    Don't forget that Britain jailed Nick Griffin for accurately saying that Rotherham was beset by Muslim rape-prostitution rings preying on working class White girls, some as young as eight.

    It was NOT Leninism that killed the West. Rather, (John) Lennonism.
  36. Victor says:

    THE POPULATION BOMBS—EXPLOSION IN AFRICA, IMPLOSION IN USA AND EUROPE.

    One thing not talked about is the African/Asian population explosion due to the high birth rate of colored people whether here in USA, Europe or in their native lands, in contrast with the low birth rates and declining populations of Whites (whether American and Europeans), which is causing the black population explosion and white population implosion.

    Whites do not want to have children. They wait till 30 to marry, but woman’s fertility peaks at 18 to 25 (yes!). Then they have only one child and think they are “done having a family.” But blacks have 5-10 children each. And to make matters worse, many white women are falling prey to blacks and immigrants, who are stealing white women. As a result, white men cannot find a white woman to date—because each young white girl is being chased by 10 black or brown men and the white woman imagines she must be a superstar to get all this attention so she becomes far too proud for even the white man’s charms, refuses marriage, waits even longer to marry and then cannot have children.

    In fact, white women are so gullible, they travel all the way to Texas to meet blacks on death row in Texas! And some fall in love with them!

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jan/13/gender.uk

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/7800865/Women-who-date-death-row-prisoners.html

    And white billionaires like Bill Gates send vaccinations to Africa so their population bomb explodes even more and there are more of them invading USA and EU, instead of sending them birth control, which is what they badly need.

    Those whom the Gods want to destroy, he first makes mad. And that is the sorry state of whites today. How many of you are ready to wake up, work on banning immigration, marry a white partner and have 10 white children? Saving your race takes work.

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  37. Wilkey says:
    @silviosilver

    it’s criminally tyrannous that our “American” generals utter this sort of deceitful rubbish: “”It would be a shame — as great a tragedy as this* was — it would be a shame if our diversity became a casualty as well.”
     
    Imagine that man rallying the troops.

    "Men, before we go into battle today, I want you to take a good look at the man standing next to you. Really look at him and reflect on just how you little you share in common. In fact, you share nothing in common - and you're a fool and a traitor if you think you do! This diversity is our secret weapon: with it we are unbeatable. But with unity and common bonds we are doomed. So as your commanding officer I remind you to remain ever vigilant against the temptation to imagine you are fighting for a greater whole - and that goes triply if you're white."

    ‘Really look at him and reflect on just how you little you share in common. In fact, you share nothing in common – and you’re a fool and a traitor if you think you do! This diversity is our secret weapon: with it we are unbeatable.”

    And yet, irony alert, supposedly the greatest American military units in WW2 were the most ethnically and racially cohesive: the 442nd Regimental Combat Team and the Tuskegee Airmen.

    The MSM loves to wax on about how awesomely effective these units are without ever grasping the apparent implications: that non-diversity was their strength, not their weakness.

    The next time someone lectures you about either remember to question the implications of “diversity is our strength” nonsense.

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    Thing is, them Tuskegee boys weren't really anything to make a movie about though the others would have you think otherwise.
  38. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Tom_R
    WHY AND HOW ITALY MUST FORCE BOATS WITH REFUGEES TO RETURN.

    Thanks for the info, Steve. Yes, that is a good idea, because news spread and people are governed by the carrot or the stick. If people believe they will be returned, they will not waste their time on a long journey.

    These hoardes of alien invaders coming to Europe illegally on boats and ships are basically invading Europe. That is an act of war and European nations such as Italy and Greece have a right to fire at these boats and sink them. Once they do that, the message will go to these invaders that invasion is not accepted and they will stop risking their lives or make these hazardous journey.

    Letting them in, giving them asylum, rescuing them, or even processing them and then returning them are not good ideas as they all encourage more immigrants to try to enter and only makes the problem worse.

    European nations must use their navies to patrol their coastal waters and prevent these alien ships and boats from entering. As soon as they come close, European naval forces can blockade these ships, and order them to return. If they do not return, the European Navy officers can board them and arrest the captain (who can then be tried and executed summarily for invasion, which should be made a capital offense) and one of them can take the ship back to Libya or tow it back to Libya or wherever they came from and let the migrants back into their country. If that does not work, the Navy can fire on the ship and torpedo it, because it is a basic right of every nation to protect itself from invasion, which is exactly what this is. They just have to do this a few times, and the word will spread.

    Unless and until this is done, Europe will be overrun with Africans, who will rape, murder and kill white women. White men must stand up and defend their nation from this invasion. PLs. write to your politicians and DEMAND all immigration be banned, all aliens be deported and this crime against humanity must end. We must never vote for any politician who panders or supports this alien invasion.

    Europe is doomed, and I predicted somewhat this scenario years ago, and was laughed by Steve’s commenters. Who is laughing now?

    Italy and Greece don’t care about mass Third World immigration — the immigrants don’t stay there they move north under the Schengen Free Movement agreement to: Britain, the Netherlands, Norway, Germany, etc. Welfare is much, much higher there.

    Politicians LOVE LOVE LOVE Mass African immigration, as it gives the Center-Left that much more clients to use against their real enemy: Working Class White (Men in particular).

    Europe has no real navy, nor do constituent nations like Italy, France, Greece, Spain, etc. Europe has even less will to allow people to die rather than be over-run. For that matter, Labor in Australia promises to undo the current government’s policy of returning refugees and opening up Australia to all comers, and Labor proposes anti-”hate” laws that essentially criminalizes any criticism whatsoever of Muslims just as in Britain.

    Don’t forget that Britain jailed Nick Griffin for accurately saying that Rotherham was beset by Muslim rape-prostitution rings preying on working class White girls, some as young as eight.

    It was NOT Leninism that killed the West. Rather, (John) Lennonism.

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    • Replies: @Al Gore Rhythms
    Nick Griffin wasn't jailed. He was found Not Guilty.
    , @iSteveFan

    Europe is doomed, and I predicted somewhat this scenario years ago, and was laughed by Steve’s commenters. Who is laughing now?
     
    Europe is not doomed. Their non-European population is still smaller than our non-European population. Europe has more time to take corrective measures than the US. And they have the advantage that they still have strong ethnic identities, and no history of the propositional-nation nonsense. Europe also has right-of-center parties that are making immigration an issue. They are further along in their resolve than we are. Will they succeed? I don't know, but they are in a better position than we are.
  39. Corvinus says:

    “Australia is going to be majority Asian before 2050 due to the massive waves of (legal) immigration their government is currently implementing.”

    
190,000 people is MASSIVE?

    https://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/20planning.htm

    In 2012, the government intelligently launched a “significant investor visa”, in which people need A$5m ($4.6m) to sink in “qualifying” investments. After investing for four years, successful applicants can apply for permanent residence. Brain drain personified.

    “But a much higher proportion of that foreign-born population is of European origin (particularly British).”

    Source?

    “Regardless, high foreign-born population rate is not conducive to social cohesion and assimilation, not to forget high native wage level.”

    The same argument was used when the Irish, the Italians, the Polish, the Vietnamese, etc. came to our shores. It at worst has had mixed results.

    “European nations must use their navies to patrol their coastal waters and prevent these alien ships and boats from entering. As soon as they come close, European naval forces can blockade these ships, and order them to return.”

Ok, I’ll say it since people here are thinking it. Rather than blockade these ships, blow them up. That will solve the problem. Too bad the Aussie video didn’t contain that message—Mate, come near our shores, and BOOM! No Foster’s for you! That will stop the “invasion”.

    “Whites do not want to have children. They wait till 30 to marry, but woman’s fertility peaks at 18 to 25 (yes!). Then they have only one child and think they are “done having a family.””

    Do white men and women have the liberty to decide for themselves whether they desire to marry and procreate?

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    “But a much higher proportion of that foreign-born population is of European origin (particularly British).”

    Source?


    Pages 22-24 here.

    Those stats are from federation right up to the 2006 census. From 1981 onwards you start to see non-White immigration enter the stats due to the end of the White Australia Policy in the 70s.

    Britain was still the #1 source of immigration till recently. The media started celebrating China overtaking Britain as the #1 source a couple of years ago, with India well up there too, maybe coming in #3 (google it).

    One of the ironies of White vs non-White immigration is that generally you find non-White immigrants more in favour of restricting other non-White immigration to Oz, whereas your stock standard Pom migrant, and some Zimbabweans like David Pocock are rabidly pro-non-White immigration.

    If anything, our historically large importation of British (English and Presbyterian Scots) has led to a diminishing of Australian identity and the trend leftward. Now we are overwhelmingly a leftist country administered to by Jews and Poms.

    That historic notion of the Ozzie being tough, independent, ideals of mateship, disrespect for authority etc etc was a fusion of lower-class Brits and Irish people who made up White Australia. All that is gone now in the mainstream. Now you're either Left or Neocon.
  40. Vendetta says:
    @KFoy
    Yeah the people smugglers they pay do that.

    All right, I’ll stand corrected – seems to be a new trend for the Syrians to start doing what the Africans do.

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  41. Australia has been referred to as the worlds largest island & smallest continent. There is a vast inland, but most of this is desert and unihabitable, at least by what we might commonly refer to as ‘civilisation’. Add to this the extremes of weather, and a total of arable land that is smaller than France, it is clear to all but legions of mostly white nincompoops who think we can support an ever growing population. Whilst there has been a temporary slowing of illegals by boat, the legal rates if immigration (mostly third world) shows no signs of stopping. Where I live – the city of Melbourne – in the south of the country, the population in this city alone has gone up, by, from what I last heard, one million people – that is just Indian & Chinese immigrants ALONE. Meanwhile, the detention of illegal arrivals is a hot button political issue here. Even former politicians (of course) seeking relevance have come out in support of releasing them. It is something of a cause celebre amongst the SJW crowd to have them released or just bringing any and all who arrive by boat. Overseas readers may recall the siege here of the Sydney cafe late last year – the perpetrator came here back in ’96 as a refugee. Just this week some ludicrous campaign has started with various idiots all taking photos of themselves holding up signs saying refugees welcome or some such other garbage. It will all badly for whitey, but you can’t tell anyone that.

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  42. @Corvinus
    “Australia is going to be majority Asian before 2050 due to the massive waves of (legal) immigration their government is currently implementing.”

    
190,000 people is MASSIVE?

    https://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/20planning.htm

    In 2012, the government intelligently launched a “significant investor visa”, in which people need A$5m ($4.6m) to sink in “qualifying” investments. After investing for four years, successful applicants can apply for permanent residence. Brain drain personified.

    “But a much higher proportion of that foreign-born population is of European origin (particularly British).”

    Source?

    “Regardless, high foreign-born population rate is not conducive to social cohesion and assimilation, not to forget high native wage level.”

    The same argument was used when the Irish, the Italians, the Polish, the Vietnamese, etc. came to our shores. It at worst has had mixed results.

    “European nations must use their navies to patrol their coastal waters and prevent these alien ships and boats from entering. As soon as they come close, European naval forces can blockade these ships, and order them to return.”

Ok, I’ll say it since people here are thinking it. Rather than blockade these ships, blow them up. That will solve the problem. Too bad the Aussie video didn’t contain that message—Mate, come near our shores, and BOOM! No Foster’s for you! That will stop the “invasion”.

    "Whites do not want to have children. They wait till 30 to marry, but woman’s fertility peaks at 18 to 25 (yes!). Then they have only one child and think they are “done having a family.”"

    Do white men and women have the liberty to decide for themselves whether they desire to marry and procreate?

    “But a much higher proportion of that foreign-born population is of European origin (particularly British).”

    Source?

    Pages 22-24 here.

    Those stats are from federation right up to the 2006 census. From 1981 onwards you start to see non-White immigration enter the stats due to the end of the White Australia Policy in the 70s.

    Britain was still the #1 source of immigration till recently. The media started celebrating China overtaking Britain as the #1 source a couple of years ago, with India well up there too, maybe coming in #3 (google it).

    One of the ironies of White vs non-White immigration is that generally you find non-White immigrants more in favour of restricting other non-White immigration to Oz, whereas your stock standard Pom migrant, and some Zimbabweans like David Pocock are rabidly pro-non-White immigration.

    If anything, our historically large importation of British (English and Presbyterian Scots) has led to a diminishing of Australian identity and the trend leftward. Now we are overwhelmingly a leftist country administered to by Jews and Poms.

    That historic notion of the Ozzie being tough, independent, ideals of mateship, disrespect for authority etc etc was a fusion of lower-class Brits and Irish people who made up White Australia. All that is gone now in the mainstream. Now you’re either Left or Neocon.

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    "If anything, our historically large importation of British (English and Presbyterian Scots) has led to a diminishing of Australian identity and the trend leftward."
    Call me crazy but I'd prefer more 'ten pound poms' than Chinese and Indian peasants in Australia.
  43. @Whiskey
    Europe is doomed, and I predicted somewhat this scenario years ago, and was laughed by Steve's commenters. Who is laughing now?

    Italy and Greece don't care about mass Third World immigration -- the immigrants don't stay there they move north under the Schengen Free Movement agreement to: Britain, the Netherlands, Norway, Germany, etc. Welfare is much, much higher there.

    Politicians LOVE LOVE LOVE Mass African immigration, as it gives the Center-Left that much more clients to use against their real enemy: Working Class White (Men in particular).

    Europe has no real navy, nor do constituent nations like Italy, France, Greece, Spain, etc. Europe has even less will to allow people to die rather than be over-run. For that matter, Labor in Australia promises to undo the current government's policy of returning refugees and opening up Australia to all comers, and Labor proposes anti-"hate" laws that essentially criminalizes any criticism whatsoever of Muslims just as in Britain.

    Don't forget that Britain jailed Nick Griffin for accurately saying that Rotherham was beset by Muslim rape-prostitution rings preying on working class White girls, some as young as eight.

    It was NOT Leninism that killed the West. Rather, (John) Lennonism.

    Nick Griffin wasn’t jailed. He was found Not Guilty.

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  44. iSteveFan says:
    @Whiskey
    Europe is doomed, and I predicted somewhat this scenario years ago, and was laughed by Steve's commenters. Who is laughing now?

    Italy and Greece don't care about mass Third World immigration -- the immigrants don't stay there they move north under the Schengen Free Movement agreement to: Britain, the Netherlands, Norway, Germany, etc. Welfare is much, much higher there.

    Politicians LOVE LOVE LOVE Mass African immigration, as it gives the Center-Left that much more clients to use against their real enemy: Working Class White (Men in particular).

    Europe has no real navy, nor do constituent nations like Italy, France, Greece, Spain, etc. Europe has even less will to allow people to die rather than be over-run. For that matter, Labor in Australia promises to undo the current government's policy of returning refugees and opening up Australia to all comers, and Labor proposes anti-"hate" laws that essentially criminalizes any criticism whatsoever of Muslims just as in Britain.

    Don't forget that Britain jailed Nick Griffin for accurately saying that Rotherham was beset by Muslim rape-prostitution rings preying on working class White girls, some as young as eight.

    It was NOT Leninism that killed the West. Rather, (John) Lennonism.

    Europe is doomed, and I predicted somewhat this scenario years ago, and was laughed by Steve’s commenters. Who is laughing now?

    Europe is not doomed. Their non-European population is still smaller than our non-European population. Europe has more time to take corrective measures than the US. And they have the advantage that they still have strong ethnic identities, and no history of the propositional-nation nonsense. Europe also has right-of-center parties that are making immigration an issue. They are further along in their resolve than we are. Will they succeed? I don’t know, but they are in a better position than we are.

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  45. @Pat Hannagan
    “But a much higher proportion of that foreign-born population is of European origin (particularly British).”

    Source?


    Pages 22-24 here.

    Those stats are from federation right up to the 2006 census. From 1981 onwards you start to see non-White immigration enter the stats due to the end of the White Australia Policy in the 70s.

    Britain was still the #1 source of immigration till recently. The media started celebrating China overtaking Britain as the #1 source a couple of years ago, with India well up there too, maybe coming in #3 (google it).

    One of the ironies of White vs non-White immigration is that generally you find non-White immigrants more in favour of restricting other non-White immigration to Oz, whereas your stock standard Pom migrant, and some Zimbabweans like David Pocock are rabidly pro-non-White immigration.

    If anything, our historically large importation of British (English and Presbyterian Scots) has led to a diminishing of Australian identity and the trend leftward. Now we are overwhelmingly a leftist country administered to by Jews and Poms.

    That historic notion of the Ozzie being tough, independent, ideals of mateship, disrespect for authority etc etc was a fusion of lower-class Brits and Irish people who made up White Australia. All that is gone now in the mainstream. Now you're either Left or Neocon.

    “If anything, our historically large importation of British (English and Presbyterian Scots) has led to a diminishing of Australian identity and the trend leftward.”
    Call me crazy but I’d prefer more ‘ten pound poms’ than Chinese and Indian peasants in Australia.

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    Oh for sure, that wasn't my point. The point was that you'd think Whites escaping non-White violence and immivasion would be great promoters of an homogeneous racial Oz but it's the inverse generally.

    And I'm not referring to the ten pound Poms. They are good blokes to a man. I'm talking about later immigration mostly but also British elites that people like Malcolm Fraser typified.

    South Africans are generally pro-White but they get tight lipped when the subject comes up, naturally I suppose.

    , @Wizard of Oz
    Why make a totally empty comparison. The Chinese and Indians emigrating to Australia are far from being peasants and almost certainly doing more to keep up the national average IQ than the 10 pound Poms ever did. The latter included the notorious "Pommy [but probably Scottish] shop steward" (it seems all the enterprising Scots emigrated more than 100 years ago). And they were mostly not the cream of British intellect. Australia certainly did better out of WW2's DPs (displaced persons often from the Baltic States) and enterprising Italians and Greeks who had never had the chance the Australian education system gave to their children.
  46. bp says:

    Well I’ve just read all the above comments
    Very few strike me as written by anyone who has any familiarity with Australia or has even particularly checked out any data about the country but rather relied on some story they saw somewhere
    I should add that there is no reason for it to be otherwise -a US blog of items of interest to a US audience after all

    Just for the record ,IMHO , between the US, Europe and Australia ,I’d say that the US will be the first of these places to fall to the Barbarians . Part of my thinking for this is that stories of civilisational collapse are so everyday in the US to not be particularly newsworthy but are still major news items in the other places . California as the canary in the coalmine and all that . Mind you the others may catch up . Or maybe they will make different choices while there is still time

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    You put your finger on something very important for Australia. It has time to learn from others. Despite the dead weight of complacent and self-interested democracy where reform is very difficult until disaster threatens (and even New Zealand led the way for the reforms beginning in the 1980s when Reagan and Thatcher had shaped the Zeitgeist elsewhere) it is a credit to Australian governments that they are regularly commissioning Intergenerational Reports though Australia is at least a generation behind Japan and old Europe in population ageing.
  47. @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    "If anything, our historically large importation of British (English and Presbyterian Scots) has led to a diminishing of Australian identity and the trend leftward."
    Call me crazy but I'd prefer more 'ten pound poms' than Chinese and Indian peasants in Australia.

    Oh for sure, that wasn’t my point. The point was that you’d think Whites escaping non-White violence and immivasion would be great promoters of an homogeneous racial Oz but it’s the inverse generally.

    And I’m not referring to the ten pound Poms. They are good blokes to a man. I’m talking about later immigration mostly but also British elites that people like Malcolm Fraser typified.

    South Africans are generally pro-White but they get tight lipped when the subject comes up, naturally I suppose.

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    • Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    Thanks for the polite reply.
    "I’m talking about later immigration mostly but also British elites that people like Malcolm Fraser typified".
    I don't follow your 'later immigration.. British elites .. Malcolm Fraser' statement. Can you expand on that?
    Thanks,
    Not PW.
  48. Tony Abbot also has some refreshingly sensible words for Europe on tackling people smuggling:

    http://www.themalaymailonline.com/world/article/abbot-tells-eu-stop-the-boats-stop-the-deaths

    For Europe’s sake I’d like to see the death penalty for mass murder via people smuggling, but hey it’s a start.

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  49. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Via the WSJ:

    @MatinaStevis: How Libyan groups make a killing smuggling migrants, use proceeds to fight each other http://t.co/H8OXe3cn2i http://t.co/jrFSgWSAPf

    Toppling Cat-ta-fe precipitated the migration catastrophe.

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  50. If I could sum up mainstream Oz today this would be it:

    What is the biggest question that divides the bi-party system in Oz? Are you pro-Palestinian or Pro-Jew, that is the question.

    When it comes to immigration both parties agree that we need less Ozzies and more non-Whites. The argument is over how they get here and why. Left = boats and low IQ riff raff to increase the diversity. Right = legally and high IQ to increase the profits.

    The three pillars of Oz Conservatism are:

    Anzac, Churchill and Israel.

    My Grandad, on the Scots side, a notorious teetotaler, used to toast when asked to perform such duties; “To the pioneers!”

    I can’t remember when was the last time I have heard any attachment to our pioneers. Sir Henry Parkes who is “the Father of Federation” has his grave up my way at Faulconbridge. My eldest likes to visit it and say “Hi Sir Henry!” as she drives by. She feels sorry for him as the grave, though well kept, is visited by next to no one.

    I have no idea where Edmund Barton’s grave is, and had to google it. It’s at South Head Cemetery. I reckon >90% of Ozzies would have never have heard of him. He was our first PM, and pretty much fathered the White Australia policy.

    But, anyway, it’s very important that we get back to this whole BDS thing, Palestine, Racism and whether or not we continue to invade the world, or invite the world, or both, though we are not yet in hock to the world. There seems to be an ice epidemic as well, which may be resolved temporarily just in time for Anzac Day.

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  51. george says:

    Mediterranean refugee crisis: EU reduced to impotent handwringing

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/20/mediterranean-migrant-crisis-no-european-migration-policy

    Australia has not destabilized it’s neighbors like Indonesia and Malaysia. Europe has destabilized most every country from the Iranian boarder to the Atlantic, including Ukraine and Georgia.

    Australia is far away from desperately poor countries. Europe is very close to Africa.

    Australia has plenty of large islands near by to dump boat people. The Mediterranean is almost completely occupied often with rich people.

    Australia is a single country which means the gov can impose a single immigration policy. Europe on the other hand has a mix of restrictionist and invitationalist countries. To make matters worse the invitationalist countries like Sweden and UK are on the north requiring migrants to cross every other country.

    Australia can defend the Indian Ocean against the boat people with a mix of cold war and global war on terror weapons. NATO spending has left Europe with no way to stop boat people. Global War on Terror weapons are useless, maybe the drones can act as spotters. Cold war weapons like U-Boats and anti aircraft missiles are irrelevant. To make matters worse NATO is pretending that Russia is going to invade Lithuania, and that is the new spending priority.

    Europe could build concentration camps and force the migrants into them, but that will not be pretty. Israel is contemplating something like this, let’s see if they can see it through. My guess is Israel will not deport most of the migrants.

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    The notion that Europe does not have the resources to deal with the issue or the places to dump the refugees (hint: start with Libya) is ridiculous. What it absolutely lacks is backbone. All it would take is one major EU country - Italy, Germany, France or the United Kingdom - to stand up and say no more, and the issue would resolve itself almost overnight.

    Most of the distressed boats being rescued are closer to Africa than to Europe. It would be just as easy to pick them up and return them to Libya.

    They don't have to let them die. They don't have to rescue them all. All they have to do is return every single one of them to Africa or Turkey or Syria and the boats would stop coming.
  52. @Pat Hannagan
    Oh for sure, that wasn't my point. The point was that you'd think Whites escaping non-White violence and immivasion would be great promoters of an homogeneous racial Oz but it's the inverse generally.

    And I'm not referring to the ten pound Poms. They are good blokes to a man. I'm talking about later immigration mostly but also British elites that people like Malcolm Fraser typified.

    South Africans are generally pro-White but they get tight lipped when the subject comes up, naturally I suppose.

    Thanks for the polite reply.
    “I’m talking about later immigration mostly but also British elites that people like Malcolm Fraser typified”.
    I don’t follow your ‘later immigration.. British elites .. Malcolm Fraser’ statement. Can you expand on that?
    Thanks,
    Not PW.

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    The Pom immigration in the 90s and 2000s has generally seen a whole bunch of conceited stuck up sanctimonious windbags hit our shore. Anyone who has worked in IT would have come across them or the likes of Peter Ryan.

    Ask anyone who was pulled over for a traffic stop in WA about thick accented Brits, imported because we cannot police ourselves, and what they think of the Pom expatriate to have come here in that time.

    Listen to much of the ABC and be overwhelmed by the British accent amid the general diversity.

    There is a demarcation between White Oz Policy Oz and the Oz of today and the Brits in general who have come here. Ten pound Poms are what, post WWII to about the 70s? The vast majority have become every bit as much Ozzie as a first fleeter. The you have Gillard and Abbott type ten pound Poms. The bad apples in a good bunch.

    Prior though you have the Brit elites, the type who promoted the Kimberley Plan:

    But there was also a huge number of supporters from all over Australia. Labor politicians, like John Cain Sr, Conservatives like Frederick Eccleston, there were leading businessmen, scientists, judges, media representatives, including the then Chairman of the ABC, William Cleary. There was a former New South Wales Premier and Supreme Court Judge, Sir Thomas Bavin, there was a Commonwealth Minister for Repatriation, Eric Harrison, there was a designer of the Sydney Harbour Bridge, Dr John Bradfield. It was huge.”



    Even “Archbishop Mannix of Melbourne threw his support behind it.” and in “…a rare display of unity. You had Archbishop Mannix saying this scheme would “wipe out the stain upon our common humanity”. You had his Anglican counterpart, Dr Howard Mowll, in Sydney, urging the government to sanction the project. You know there were calls of support also from the Primate of Australia, the Moderator-General of the Presbyterian Church, Reverend Robert Wilson Macaulay; and the President-General of the Methodist Church, Reverend Weller.

    Contrast that type with the Ozzies who protested and voted down conscription in WWI. There is no way that type would ever promote another nation come here and set up their own nation within our nation.

    What I am getting at is that the majority Oz prior to the 70s was a consistently loyal ethnoationalist who desired his own nation unencumbered by imperialist desires. They were a mix of convict descended, free-settlers and all mid to lower class with a treasonous religious elite.

    The influx of Pom migrants has seen the international type of Pom, those who have fled their national disaster and come here to teach us what true anti-racism is all about.

    Probably haven't made that clear at all.
  53. Kyle a says:
    @Wilkey
    'Really look at him and reflect on just how you little you share in common. In fact, you share nothing in common – and you’re a fool and a traitor if you think you do! This diversity is our secret weapon: with it we are unbeatable."

    And yet, irony alert, supposedly the greatest American military units in WW2 were the most ethnically and racially cohesive: the 442nd Regimental Combat Team and the Tuskegee Airmen.

    The MSM loves to wax on about how awesomely effective these units are without ever grasping the apparent implications: that non-diversity was their strength, not their weakness.

    The next time someone lectures you about either remember to question the implications of "diversity is our strength" nonsense.

    Thing is, them Tuskegee boys weren’t really anything to make a movie about though the others would have you think otherwise.

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    "Thing is, them Tuskegee boys weren’t really anything to make a movie about though the others would have you think otherwise."

    They're a subject worthy of a movie regardless of their disputed record. Not "Red Tails," but something.

    But the actual record is irrelevant. The media's portrayal of the success of non-diverse units like the Tuskegee Airman and the 442nd RCT is what matters.

  54. @Pat Hannagan
    If I could sum up mainstream Oz today this would be it:

    What is the biggest question that divides the bi-party system in Oz? Are you pro-Palestinian or Pro-Jew, that is the question.

    When it comes to immigration both parties agree that we need less Ozzies and more non-Whites. The argument is over how they get here and why. Left = boats and low IQ riff raff to increase the diversity. Right = legally and high IQ to increase the profits.

    The three pillars of Oz Conservatism are:

    Anzac, Churchill and Israel.

    My Grandad, on the Scots side, a notorious teetotaler, used to toast when asked to perform such duties; "To the pioneers!"

    I can't remember when was the last time I have heard any attachment to our pioneers. Sir Henry Parkes who is "the Father of Federation" has his grave up my way at Faulconbridge. My eldest likes to visit it and say "Hi Sir Henry!" as she drives by. She feels sorry for him as the grave, though well kept, is visited by next to no one.

    I have no idea where Edmund Barton's grave is, and had to google it. It's at South Head Cemetery. I reckon >90% of Ozzies would have never have heard of him. He was our first PM, and pretty much fathered the White Australia policy.

    But, anyway, it's very important that we get back to this whole BDS thing, Palestine, Racism and whether or not we continue to invade the world, or invite the world, or both, though we are not yet in hock to the world. There seems to be an ice epidemic as well, which may be resolved temporarily just in time for Anzac Day.

    An industrial scale comment.

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  55. @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    Thanks for the polite reply.
    "I’m talking about later immigration mostly but also British elites that people like Malcolm Fraser typified".
    I don't follow your 'later immigration.. British elites .. Malcolm Fraser' statement. Can you expand on that?
    Thanks,
    Not PW.

    The Pom immigration in the 90s and 2000s has generally seen a whole bunch of conceited stuck up sanctimonious windbags hit our shore. Anyone who has worked in IT would have come across them or the likes of Peter Ryan.

    Ask anyone who was pulled over for a traffic stop in WA about thick accented Brits, imported because we cannot police ourselves, and what they think of the Pom expatriate to have come here in that time.

    Listen to much of the ABC and be overwhelmed by the British accent amid the general diversity.

    There is a demarcation between White Oz Policy Oz and the Oz of today and the Brits in general who have come here. Ten pound Poms are what, post WWII to about the 70s? The vast majority have become every bit as much Ozzie as a first fleeter. The you have Gillard and Abbott type ten pound Poms. The bad apples in a good bunch.

    Prior though you have the Brit elites, the type who promoted the Kimberley Plan:

    But there was also a huge number of supporters from all over Australia. Labor politicians, like John Cain Sr, Conservatives like Frederick Eccleston, there were leading businessmen, scientists, judges, media representatives, including the then Chairman of the ABC, William Cleary. There was a former New South Wales Premier and Supreme Court Judge, Sir Thomas Bavin, there was a Commonwealth Minister for Repatriation, Eric Harrison, there was a designer of the Sydney Harbour Bridge, Dr John Bradfield. It was huge.”

    Even “Archbishop Mannix of Melbourne threw his support behind it.” and in “…a rare display of unity. You had Archbishop Mannix saying this scheme would “wipe out the stain upon our common humanity”. You had his Anglican counterpart, Dr Howard Mowll, in Sydney, urging the government to sanction the project. You know there were calls of support also from the Primate of Australia, the Moderator-General of the Presbyterian Church, Reverend Robert Wilson Macaulay; and the President-General of the Methodist Church, Reverend Weller.

    Contrast that type with the Ozzies who protested and voted down conscription in WWI. There is no way that type would ever promote another nation come here and set up their own nation within our nation.

    What I am getting at is that the majority Oz prior to the 70s was a consistently loyal ethnoationalist who desired his own nation unencumbered by imperialist desires. They were a mix of convict descended, free-settlers and all mid to lower class with a treasonous religious elite.

    The influx of Pom migrants has seen the international type of Pom, those who have fled their national disaster and come here to teach us what true anti-racism is all about.

    Probably haven’t made that clear at all.

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    I don't think your experience of Australia and Australians is representative. I suspect that (in Perth?) you wouldn't even be forced to ask whether the steady trickle of young and better than average IQ Chinese and Indians isn't one of Australia's most hopeful differentiators from the European experience. (I concede that some of them are probably incapable of getting into a good Chinese university so bribe their way in to Australian ones who use dodgy recruiting agents and then rip off the students by making it too easy to graduate.) Nor perhaps have you considered that the numbers of each of the Chinese and Indians (who will not btw outbreed native Aussies as some of the Muslim groups still do) will tend to balance each other and what can be expected of the 90 per cent most modern ethnicities in Australia is that they will be straightforwardly secular materialistic-but-not-entirely Aussies with the traditional Aussie outward look on and frequent travel to the wider world.
  56. @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    "If anything, our historically large importation of British (English and Presbyterian Scots) has led to a diminishing of Australian identity and the trend leftward."
    Call me crazy but I'd prefer more 'ten pound poms' than Chinese and Indian peasants in Australia.

    Why make a totally empty comparison. The Chinese and Indians emigrating to Australia are far from being peasants and almost certainly doing more to keep up the national average IQ than the 10 pound Poms ever did. The latter included the notorious “Pommy [but probably Scottish] shop steward” (it seems all the enterprising Scots emigrated more than 100 years ago). And they were mostly not the cream of British intellect. Australia certainly did better out of WW2′s DPs (displaced persons often from the Baltic States) and enterprising Italians and Greeks who had never had the chance the Australian education system gave to their children.

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  57. Anonym says:

    This is a pretty good message. Maybe America can use Bruce Campbell to deliver their anti-illegal message.

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    • Replies: @Zed, Lord of the Brutals
    "Listen up you primitive screwheads, this is my boom stick!"

    Yeah, Bruce Campbell could work.

  58. @bp
    Well I've just read all the above comments
    Very few strike me as written by anyone who has any familiarity with Australia or has even particularly checked out any data about the country but rather relied on some story they saw somewhere
    I should add that there is no reason for it to be otherwise -a US blog of items of interest to a US audience after all

    Just for the record ,IMHO , between the US, Europe and Australia ,I'd say that the US will be the first of these places to fall to the Barbarians . Part of my thinking for this is that stories of civilisational collapse are so everyday in the US to not be particularly newsworthy but are still major news items in the other places . California as the canary in the coalmine and all that . Mind you the others may catch up . Or maybe they will make different choices while there is still time

    You put your finger on something very important for Australia. It has time to learn from others. Despite the dead weight of complacent and self-interested democracy where reform is very difficult until disaster threatens (and even New Zealand led the way for the reforms beginning in the 1980s when Reagan and Thatcher had shaped the Zeitgeist elsewhere) it is a credit to Australian governments that they are regularly commissioning Intergenerational Reports though Australia is at least a generation behind Japan and old Europe in population ageing.

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  59. Bearing in mind the kind of countries most illegal immigrants come from, it was probably a good idea to have a military man lay down the law in that video.

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  60. @Pat Hannagan
    The Pom immigration in the 90s and 2000s has generally seen a whole bunch of conceited stuck up sanctimonious windbags hit our shore. Anyone who has worked in IT would have come across them or the likes of Peter Ryan.

    Ask anyone who was pulled over for a traffic stop in WA about thick accented Brits, imported because we cannot police ourselves, and what they think of the Pom expatriate to have come here in that time.

    Listen to much of the ABC and be overwhelmed by the British accent amid the general diversity.

    There is a demarcation between White Oz Policy Oz and the Oz of today and the Brits in general who have come here. Ten pound Poms are what, post WWII to about the 70s? The vast majority have become every bit as much Ozzie as a first fleeter. The you have Gillard and Abbott type ten pound Poms. The bad apples in a good bunch.

    Prior though you have the Brit elites, the type who promoted the Kimberley Plan:

    But there was also a huge number of supporters from all over Australia. Labor politicians, like John Cain Sr, Conservatives like Frederick Eccleston, there were leading businessmen, scientists, judges, media representatives, including the then Chairman of the ABC, William Cleary. There was a former New South Wales Premier and Supreme Court Judge, Sir Thomas Bavin, there was a Commonwealth Minister for Repatriation, Eric Harrison, there was a designer of the Sydney Harbour Bridge, Dr John Bradfield. It was huge.”



    Even “Archbishop Mannix of Melbourne threw his support behind it.” and in “…a rare display of unity. You had Archbishop Mannix saying this scheme would “wipe out the stain upon our common humanity”. You had his Anglican counterpart, Dr Howard Mowll, in Sydney, urging the government to sanction the project. You know there were calls of support also from the Primate of Australia, the Moderator-General of the Presbyterian Church, Reverend Robert Wilson Macaulay; and the President-General of the Methodist Church, Reverend Weller.

    Contrast that type with the Ozzies who protested and voted down conscription in WWI. There is no way that type would ever promote another nation come here and set up their own nation within our nation.

    What I am getting at is that the majority Oz prior to the 70s was a consistently loyal ethnoationalist who desired his own nation unencumbered by imperialist desires. They were a mix of convict descended, free-settlers and all mid to lower class with a treasonous religious elite.

    The influx of Pom migrants has seen the international type of Pom, those who have fled their national disaster and come here to teach us what true anti-racism is all about.

    Probably haven't made that clear at all.

    I don’t think your experience of Australia and Australians is representative. I suspect that (in Perth?) you wouldn’t even be forced to ask whether the steady trickle of young and better than average IQ Chinese and Indians isn’t one of Australia’s most hopeful differentiators from the European experience. (I concede that some of them are probably incapable of getting into a good Chinese university so bribe their way in to Australian ones who use dodgy recruiting agents and then rip off the students by making it too easy to graduate.) Nor perhaps have you considered that the numbers of each of the Chinese and Indians (who will not btw outbreed native Aussies as some of the Muslim groups still do) will tend to balance each other and what can be expected of the 90 per cent most modern ethnicities in Australia is that they will be straightforwardly secular materialistic-but-not-entirely Aussies with the traditional Aussie outward look on and frequent travel to the wider world.

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    Wiz, I'm from the Blue Mountains not WA. That was a reference to what I've been told by WA mates.

    The point I was trying to make is that British immigration hasn't been a boon for our national identity. They have brought with them their decadent culture and morals. Juxtaposed with non-White immigration yes I prefer the Brits but I am a nationalist so I am concerned with me and mine first and foremost, just as the Jews are.

    This whole backwards and forwards over boats with the Greens/Labor coalition vs the Nationals/Liberals Coalition is a diversion from our national identity.

    I want the Oz that voted down conscription not the Oz that determines everything it does by Palestine vs Israel.

    As we all know, should Labor win the next election then the spending kicks in and the boats start again. The only difference between Labor and Libs is the Libs are far more efficient in changing our demographics. If you google the stats you will see that every Liberal govt since Howard has made records with non-White immigration, all legal, whilst under Labor the immigration rates have stayed at Liberal rates, though the boat rates have risen.

    Sure, I don't want the dross from boats but I also don't want the influx of legal immigration that the Libs have smashed us with.

  61. @Wizard of Oz
    I don't think your experience of Australia and Australians is representative. I suspect that (in Perth?) you wouldn't even be forced to ask whether the steady trickle of young and better than average IQ Chinese and Indians isn't one of Australia's most hopeful differentiators from the European experience. (I concede that some of them are probably incapable of getting into a good Chinese university so bribe their way in to Australian ones who use dodgy recruiting agents and then rip off the students by making it too easy to graduate.) Nor perhaps have you considered that the numbers of each of the Chinese and Indians (who will not btw outbreed native Aussies as some of the Muslim groups still do) will tend to balance each other and what can be expected of the 90 per cent most modern ethnicities in Australia is that they will be straightforwardly secular materialistic-but-not-entirely Aussies with the traditional Aussie outward look on and frequent travel to the wider world.

    Wiz, I’m from the Blue Mountains not WA. That was a reference to what I’ve been told by WA mates.

    The point I was trying to make is that British immigration hasn’t been a boon for our national identity. They have brought with them their decadent culture and morals. Juxtaposed with non-White immigration yes I prefer the Brits but I am a nationalist so I am concerned with me and mine first and foremost, just as the Jews are.

    This whole backwards and forwards over boats with the Greens/Labor coalition vs the Nationals/Liberals Coalition is a diversion from our national identity.

    I want the Oz that voted down conscription not the Oz that determines everything it does by Palestine vs Israel.

    As we all know, should Labor win the next election then the spending kicks in and the boats start again. The only difference between Labor and Libs is the Libs are far more efficient in changing our demographics. If you google the stats you will see that every Liberal govt since Howard has made records with non-White immigration, all legal, whilst under Labor the immigration rates have stayed at Liberal rates, though the boat rates have risen.

    Sure, I don’t want the dross from boats but I also don’t want the influx of legal immigration that the Libs have smashed us with.

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  62. anon says: • Disclaimer

    what do you make of Tony Abbott bringing back knights and dames? This was a national talking point for weeks, drawing ire from the left and embarrassed silence from the right. I think i get what he’s doing. He’s trying to assert Australia’s British heritage. Much of it has been lost, and the left is trying to remove it entirely. That’s essentially what the monarchy-republic debate is all about: sticking it to the Brits once and for all.

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    Abbott's most recent gaffe(or stroke of genius)was to award Prince Philip a knighthood. You can imagine the field day the left had with that one.
    , @Pat Hannagan
    No one knows what Abbott was attempting with that knighthood lunacy. What we do know is that he categorically promised to rescind section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act and he reneged.

    He’s trying to assert Australia’s British heritage.

    What British heritage? We federated in 1901 and implemented our own nation based on our race. Britain opposed it.

    Britain is a political formulation to advance the interests of the elite and not a race based nation that advances the interests of her people. Australia attempted the latter from 1901 till 1975. Whitlam and Fraser combined to kill it and Rudd, Gillard, Abbott and co are the heirs of the assassins.
  63. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @anon
    what do you make of Tony Abbott bringing back knights and dames? This was a national talking point for weeks, drawing ire from the left and embarrassed silence from the right. I think i get what he's doing. He's trying to assert Australia's British heritage. Much of it has been lost, and the left is trying to remove it entirely. That's essentially what the monarchy-republic debate is all about: sticking it to the Brits once and for all.

    Abbott’s most recent gaffe(or stroke of genius)was to award Prince Philip a knighthood. You can imagine the field day the left had with that one.

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  64. @Anonym
    This is a pretty good message. Maybe America can use Bruce Campbell to deliver their anti-illegal message.

    “Listen up you primitive screwheads, this is my boom stick!”

    Yeah, Bruce Campbell could work.

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  65. @anon
    what do you make of Tony Abbott bringing back knights and dames? This was a national talking point for weeks, drawing ire from the left and embarrassed silence from the right. I think i get what he's doing. He's trying to assert Australia's British heritage. Much of it has been lost, and the left is trying to remove it entirely. That's essentially what the monarchy-republic debate is all about: sticking it to the Brits once and for all.

    No one knows what Abbott was attempting with that knighthood lunacy. What we do know is that he categorically promised to rescind section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act and he reneged.

    He’s trying to assert Australia’s British heritage.

    What British heritage? We federated in 1901 and implemented our own nation based on our race. Britain opposed it.

    Britain is a political formulation to advance the interests of the elite and not a race based nation that advances the interests of her people. Australia attempted the latter from 1901 till 1975. Whitlam and Fraser combined to kill it and Rudd, Gillard, Abbott and co are the heirs of the assassins.

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  66. LondonBob says:
    @silviosilver

    But isn’t Australia also taking in a large number of Asian immigrants?
     
    Yes, definitely. I was just pointing out it can be a little misleading - or premature - to look at the foreign-born proportion without being aware of how much of it is still European. Most of that European component is rapidly ageing so it's only got a few more census cycles in it before it drops off the radar.

    As for skills vs reunification, Australia does both. Because so many get in through skills, the subsequent reunification brings higher quality immigrants than would be the case without it.

    I'm resigned to Australia as I knew it eventually being lost to European civilization, but the size of the place gives me hope that some kind of mutually agreed racial federalization deal will be worked out some day. I consider Asians excellent candidates for such a deal, since they are accustomed to keeping to their own, not bothering whites and being decently courteous whenever interaction is required. If we join forces we can create a racial realist majority and essentially force everyone else to play ball. However imperfect a solution, it beats either total surrender or constant rancor.

    East Asians don’t reproduce themselves and often intermarry, they won’t takeover.

    Encouragingly Australia is being cited by the media in Britain as the example to imitate.

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  67. dsgntd_plyr says: • Website
    @Felix
    Makes sense. Australia is going to be majority Asian before 2050 due to the massive waves of (legal) immigration their government is currently implementing. Everyone knows that Asians do not like third world immigrants, so the Oz gov. is simply securing the inheritance on behalf of the future Asian majority.

    “Australia is going to be majority Asian before 2050 due to the massive waves of (legal) immigration their government is currently implementing. ”

    There are about 1.67 times as many Brits moving to Australia as Chinese and Indians combined:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Australia#Country_of_birth_of_Australian_residents Brits + New Zealanders is well over 2.4:1; see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Australia#Ancestry_of_Australian_population

    And that’s not even with a population adjustment. If I did that the ration would be what? 10:1? Google is your friend.

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    • Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    Australia will issue five million visas this year. Workers, students and tourists.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/five-million-visas-into-australia-this-year-likely-to-set-new-records-20150421-1mq6km.html
  68. I like Edward Luttwak’s solution to the Camp of Saints: ” send the drones on the Libyan coast and destroy the barges that need to be human traffickers ”

    https://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=fr?sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A//www.ilgiornale.it/news/cronache/ricetta-luttwak-bombardate-scafisti-1118112.html

    Just imagine the uproar if Jean-Marie Le Pen would say such a thing.

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  69. MarkinLA says:

    Varmint hunting is quite popular. The video should say that there is no license needed to shoot vermin in Australia.

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  70. East Asians don’t reproduce themselves and often intermarry, they won’t takeover.

    No, this is complete nonsense.

    If mass immigration continues indefinitely it’s a mathematical certainty. How could it be otherwise?

    Intermarriage – or rather, interracial reproduction – has the effect of reducing the white proportion of the population, and this effect thus also helps to hasten the ‘takeover,’ just as immigration does. Some people find it uncomfortable to concede this truth, but it is a truth all the same.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    "Nonsense" is a strong word that needs to be backed up with more than assertion especially when you airily speak of "mathematical certainty" without giving a fact or calculation to back it up. What is nonsense is your "mass immigration" in reference to East Asians and Indians who are the ones - trying to save the remnant of your argument - you suggest will be taking over despite low fertility by intermarriage. As others have demonstrated Asians don't constitute a particularly high proportion of Australia's relatively high recent immigration intake.

    Underlying your fears seems to be some fanciful ideas about the continuities and stabilities of culture which only need one to live a few decades in fast moving modern societies to view them sceptically if not as fantasies. Women used to give Bob Menzies his majorities in Australia and they had 3 kids. A few decades on they loath the Liberal PM and have 1.8 kids etc etc. Prostitution and abortion were legalised over an approx 20 year period of change.... Mind you my East Asian in-law in Australia should produce some pretty versatile as well as talented and hardworking offspring. Even the girls play Australian Rules football as well as surf and rap dance when not getting maths prizes.
  71. mark says:
    @KFoy
    In all fairness Australian situation is very different. Most of these migrants trying to get into Europe are not in fact Africans but Syrians who are facing such despair that they don't even care about the risks of failing or dying. The anarchy in Libya due to toppling of Gaddafi regime is the main cause of the surge in recent years.

    Even if they were Syrians, why Australia? It is literally the other side of the Earth from Syria. There are lots of wealthy Arab countries that should take them in.

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  72. Lets face it, if you’re a working/lower middle class white guy in Australia becoming part of the East-Asian co-prosperity sphere isn’t exactly very appealing, which is why most people who support it are upper middle class white nerds who are keen on marrying a petite Asian girl. I’d certainly prefer it if Australia stayed 80 percent white. But it’s probably not as bad as being a working/lower middle class white guy in South Africa or Columbia – at least there are fewer power cuts and car jackings.

    And in case, the topic of this post is third world immigration into Europe. If Australia can provide Europe with some constructive advice on reducing illegal third world immigration than surely that’s a positive? Whether the rest of its immigration policy is suspect is beside the point.

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  73. Wilkey says:
    @Kyle a
    Thing is, them Tuskegee boys weren't really anything to make a movie about though the others would have you think otherwise.

    “Thing is, them Tuskegee boys weren’t really anything to make a movie about though the others would have you think otherwise.”

    They’re a subject worthy of a movie regardless of their disputed record. Not “Red Tails,” but something.

    But the actual record is irrelevant. The media’s portrayal of the success of non-diverse units like the Tuskegee Airman and the 442nd RCT is what matters.

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  74. Wilkey says:
    @george
    Mediterranean refugee crisis: EU reduced to impotent handwringing
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/20/mediterranean-migrant-crisis-no-european-migration-policy


    Australia has not destabilized it's neighbors like Indonesia and Malaysia. Europe has destabilized most every country from the Iranian boarder to the Atlantic, including Ukraine and Georgia.

    Australia is far away from desperately poor countries. Europe is very close to Africa.

    Australia has plenty of large islands near by to dump boat people. The Mediterranean is almost completely occupied often with rich people.

    Australia is a single country which means the gov can impose a single immigration policy. Europe on the other hand has a mix of restrictionist and invitationalist countries. To make matters worse the invitationalist countries like Sweden and UK are on the north requiring migrants to cross every other country.

    Australia can defend the Indian Ocean against the boat people with a mix of cold war and global war on terror weapons. NATO spending has left Europe with no way to stop boat people. Global War on Terror weapons are useless, maybe the drones can act as spotters. Cold war weapons like U-Boats and anti aircraft missiles are irrelevant. To make matters worse NATO is pretending that Russia is going to invade Lithuania, and that is the new spending priority.

    Europe could build concentration camps and force the migrants into them, but that will not be pretty. Israel is contemplating something like this, let's see if they can see it through. My guess is Israel will not deport most of the migrants.

    The notion that Europe does not have the resources to deal with the issue or the places to dump the refugees (hint: start with Libya) is ridiculous. What it absolutely lacks is backbone. All it would take is one major EU country – Italy, Germany, France or the United Kingdom – to stand up and say no more, and the issue would resolve itself almost overnight.

    Most of the distressed boats being rescued are closer to Africa than to Europe. It would be just as easy to pick them up and return them to Libya.

    They don’t have to let them die. They don’t have to rescue them all. All they have to do is return every single one of them to Africa or Turkey or Syria and the boats would stop coming.

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  75. Koy says:
    @Vendetta
    All right, I'll stand corrected - seems to be a new trend for the Syrians to start doing what the Africans do.

    Nay bother brother!

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  76. Hibernian says:
    @silviosilver

    Australia has a very high percentage of foreign-born population, even higher than that of the United States.
     
    But a much higher proportion of that foreign-born population is of European origin (particularly British).

    A large proportion of Australians are Irish Catholics. Like me.

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    I know, I know. For some reason I find saying Anglo-Celtic kinda awkward. It feels contrived.
    , @bp
    Like me too
    But Irish Catholics are not so distinct from the British in Australia -there has been huge intermarriage between the two and has been for ever but particularly since WW2. Certainly this is the case for just about every family I know . Most but not all went Catholic
    The term Anglo Celt is apt.
    It's different in the US for a variety of historical reasons with perhaps the important ones being that the Irish were in Australia at the beginning ( cf the US was a very Anglo Protestant place originally ) and that many Irish settlers were middle class ( a rarity in the US -it cost a lot more to get to Australia -many went there to farm or start a business )
    And in the long run a convict past ended up giving your family an earlier start to making a new life

    As I said earlier I'm a lot less pessimistic about Australia than other places . Check out how common no go zones are in the US and ,more recently, also in Europe . And how common intermarriage is in Australia ( Muslims excepted )

  77. @Hibernian
    A large proportion of Australians are Irish Catholics. Like me.

    I know, I know. For some reason I find saying Anglo-Celtic kinda awkward. It feels contrived.

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    • Replies: @Clyde Packer
    Pretty accurate though, given the amount of intermarriage between the two groups.
  78. bp says:
    @Hibernian
    A large proportion of Australians are Irish Catholics. Like me.

    Like me too
    But Irish Catholics are not so distinct from the British in Australia -there has been huge intermarriage between the two and has been for ever but particularly since WW2. Certainly this is the case for just about every family I know . Most but not all went Catholic
    The term Anglo Celt is apt.
    It’s different in the US for a variety of historical reasons with perhaps the important ones being that the Irish were in Australia at the beginning ( cf the US was a very Anglo Protestant place originally ) and that many Irish settlers were middle class ( a rarity in the US -it cost a lot more to get to Australia -many went there to farm or start a business )
    And in the long run a convict past ended up giving your family an earlier start to making a new life

    As I said earlier I’m a lot less pessimistic about Australia than other places . Check out how common no go zones are in the US and ,more recently, also in Europe . And how common intermarriage is in Australia ( Muslims excepted )

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  79. @dsgntd_plyr
    "Australia is going to be majority Asian before 2050 due to the massive waves of (legal) immigration their government is currently implementing. "

    There are about 1.67 times as many Brits moving to Australia as Chinese and Indians combined:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Australia#Country_of_birth_of_Australian_residents Brits + New Zealanders is well over 2.4:1; see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Australia#Ancestry_of_Australian_population

    And that's not even with a population adjustment. If I did that the ration would be what? 10:1? Google is your friend.
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  80. @silviosilver
    I know, I know. For some reason I find saying Anglo-Celtic kinda awkward. It feels contrived.

    Pretty accurate though, given the amount of intermarriage between the two groups.

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    • Replies: @Wizard of Oz
    Hello Clyde. Haven't seen you or spoken to you since 1962 in Sydney, pre-emigration, and the great thing is that you were alive then. Hope you're getting on with Kerry.
  81. Beach says:
    @Luke Lea
    I had an "Immigration Moratorium" bumper sticker on my car for a couple of years with very little response pro or con. I think I'll try again with "End Immigration Now."

    Luke, you are assuming that the vast majority of people understand the meaning of “moratorium.” Not understanding, and therefore unsure of your position on immigration, they ignore it. I’ll bet you’d get more response with your second try.

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  82. @Clyde Packer
    Pretty accurate though, given the amount of intermarriage between the two groups.

    Hello Clyde. Haven’t seen you or spoken to you since 1962 in Sydney, pre-emigration, and the great thing is that you were alive then. Hope you’re getting on with Kerry.

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  83. @silviosilver

    East Asians don’t reproduce themselves and often intermarry, they won’t takeover.
     
    No, this is complete nonsense.

    If mass immigration continues indefinitely it's a mathematical certainty. How could it be otherwise?

    Intermarriage - or rather, interracial reproduction - has the effect of reducing the white proportion of the population, and this effect thus also helps to hasten the 'takeover,' just as immigration does. Some people find it uncomfortable to concede this truth, but it is a truth all the same.

    “Nonsense” is a strong word that needs to be backed up with more than assertion especially when you airily speak of “mathematical certainty” without giving a fact or calculation to back it up. What is nonsense is your “mass immigration” in reference to East Asians and Indians who are the ones – trying to save the remnant of your argument – you suggest will be taking over despite low fertility by intermarriage. As others have demonstrated Asians don’t constitute a particularly high proportion of Australia’s relatively high recent immigration intake.

    Underlying your fears seems to be some fanciful ideas about the continuities and stabilities of culture which only need one to live a few decades in fast moving modern societies to view them sceptically if not as fantasies. Women used to give Bob Menzies his majorities in Australia and they had 3 kids. A few decades on they loath the Liberal PM and have 1.8 kids etc etc. Prostitution and abortion were legalised over an approx 20 year period of change…. Mind you my East Asian in-law in Australia should produce some pretty versatile as well as talented and hardworking offspring. Even the girls play Australian Rules football as well as surf and rap dance when not getting maths prizes.

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