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A giant article in The Atlantic compiles every imaginable cliche about why Baltimore being the way it is is Your Fault.

Being Black in America Can Be Hazardous to Your Health

In Baltimore and other segregated cities, the life-expectancy gap between African Americans and whites is as much as 20 years. One young woman’s struggle shows why.

OLGA KHAZAN JULY/AUGUST 2018 ISSUE

In The Atlantic, the problems of inner city blacks are always due to “segregation;” the implied solution is always for the government to subsidize sending them to to remote white suburbs and towns, coincidentally opening up the inner cities for white gentrifiers, such as, say, Atlantic staffers.

I’ve been saying this for decades, so I doubt if it will ever get through, but it’s obvious that poor inner city blacks are the American real estate market’s biggest hot potato. So, there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists.

iSteve commenter The Last Real Calvinist writes:

It’s an astonishing article; as you say, it reveals so much.

If you read carefully, what’s most striking is that although Kiarra is being held up as a consummate victim, she’s already had so much help in her life that it’s hard to keep a tally:

***The article mentions that she’s got health insurance, which gives or has given her access to wide-ranging health care, including psychiatric hospitalization, weekly sessions with a psychotherapist, weight-loss coaching, rehab for booze, and a carefully-managed opportunity for gastric-sleeve surgery, in addition to her regular medical visits for her incipient diabetes. She also mentions she has yet to be given a device to manage her fat-induced sleep apnea that she had been ‘promised’.

***She’s had uncounted (literally) opportunities to get a college degree; she’s dropped out of ‘one local college after another’. She also enrols in a medical assistant training program she seems to abandon.

***She held more than one ‘solid job’ that she quit because it didn’t rise to her ‘ceiling’, which is to be an ‘important person’. At the time of writing, she holds a job that’s poo-pooed for its low pay, but she’s still got enough money for lots of fast food.

***The article alludes to her receiving food stamps, and getting subsidized housing through her rehab program.

The purpose of this article is to explain how all of this help and all of these opportunities are Not Enough. There is so much more savioring yet to be done.

 
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  1. I tried reading the article, and it was just a series of problems that this lady had created for herself.
    Did segregation make her obese? Of course not.
    Did it make her an alcoholic? I could concede some responsibility, if I’m generous, but only a sliver.
    Did it give her diabetes and sleep apnea? See obesity.

    Same with crime. It is reductionist in the extreme to look at the problems in black America today and say “Because: Racism”.

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    • Replies: @bomag

    It is reductionist in the extreme to look at the problems in black America today and say “Because: Racism”.
     
    I have a mechanics shop in which I cram all the tools I can to help solve all the various mechanical problems I encounter.

    SJWs, on the other hand, reduce their "tool" kit until they have one limited class of tool: shouting "racism" and "privilege" and legacy thereof.
    , @Tiny Duck
    Ok wound you trade places with her?

    That's what I thought
    , @AnotherDad

    I tried reading the article, and it was just a series of problems that this lady had created for herself.
    Did segregation make her obese? Of course not.
     
    Same reaction--i too couldn't get very far either.

    It's a very weird article. The first paragraph

    One morning this past September, Kiarra Boulware boarded the 26 bus to Baltimore’s Bon Secours Hospital, where she would seek help for the most urgent problem in her life: the 200-some excess pounds she carried on her 5-foot-2-inch frame.
     
    rather than being a credible "hook", basically makes it clear that this woman's problems stem not from "racism", but from having no self-control--and probably being very stupid. You'd think you'd try and wrap an article around some black gal with health problems who was at least somewhat sympathetic. (All I this makes me think is "why is this woman alive--eating … and eating and eating--us taxpayers out of house and home".)

    This certainly isn't designed to actual convince any objective reader. I guess the Atlantic has just devolved to providing noise for "true believers". That, or Olag is wiggling her ass in the air for Goldberg or the publisher or someone with some pull. Otherwise inexplicable.
    , @Colin Wright
    '...Same with crime. It is reductionist in the extreme to look at the problems in black America today and say “Because: Racism”.'

    Ever notice that there is no such thing as a functional black society -- anywhere? Regardless of the circumstances?
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  2. DFH says:

    OLGA KHAZAN

    Has the Khazar meme gone too far?

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    • Replies: @Mishra
    She looks pretty much like every white woman I've ever known, even though her name is 'different'.

    What I want to know is: where are her eyeglasses?

    https://www.unzcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Screenshot-2017-09-23-15.48.07.png
    , @International Jew
    A khazan is a standard role/job in a synagogue; the khazan sings some of the prayers. The other, and better-known, term for this job is cantor.

    Nothing to do with the Khazar people of the Caucasus.
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  3. Bill P says:

    It isn’t going to work. The social welfare cost of blacks is enormous, and exurban whites just don’t have the resources to provide for them.

    If blacks were shipped off to where whites are really poor, they’d start dying at much higher rates, having childhood nutrition problems, higher maternal and infant mortality, getting pneumonia, suffering from exposure, etc. It would be a humanitarian crisis.

    People underestimate the tenacity and resourcefulness required to get by in poor white areas, especially in northern states.

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    • Replies: @bomag

    It isn’t going to work. The social welfare cost of blacks is enormous, and exurban whites just don’t have the resources to provide for them.
     
    Modern logistics, infrastructure, and the wealth of Western countries has the central gov't dishing out checks to the hinterland to maintain one and all "in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed."

    The question is how many can be supported until the money runs out?
    , @Bugg
    Hospitals, in patient drug programs, medical procedures, subsidized housing, outright welfare, it doesn't end. And worse, it doesn't work.This read like a contest about who cares less about this woman's well-being, her family or herself. And the solutions white liberals offer is more of the same. At what point can you suggest this woman should deal with the hard consequences of her poor choices and stop blaming nebulous undefined racism? And really once again racism is posited as the cause of all this woman's problems. But there's no substantive link here, it's simply put out there as accepted fact. Most of the people in the institutions trying to endlessly help her are probably white.
    , @WowJustWow
    Au contraire, it sounds like it's going to work perfectly. They can just blame the poor whites for the blacks' new problems.
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  4. Thirdtwin says:

    From where I sit in metro Atlanta, on the outer edge of suburbia, it appears that black people here have not been driven out of West End to Alpharetta. They have come from the suburbs and downtowns of other cities. Maybe Cincinnati or Indianapolis gentrifiers are having success in whitening inner cities, but in Atlanta, once you go black, you never go back.

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    • Replies: @Security

    Maybe Cincinnati or Indianapolis gentrifiers are having success in whitening inner cities, but in Atlanta, once you go black, you never go back.
     
    On the contrary, if you’re in Atlanta, ya'll better BACK IT UP!!!:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eqxaP4t9gEc
    , @Camlost
    As long as Alpharetta remains single-family homes with active HOA and codes that will never happen. Not even if they extend Marta to Windward Pkwy.

    Dunwoody and Sandy Springs incorporated to prevent Fulton County leadership from allowing too many apartments to be built, to prevent what you've described.
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  5. bomag says:
    @Half Canadian
    I tried reading the article, and it was just a series of problems that this lady had created for herself.
    Did segregation make her obese? Of course not.
    Did it make her an alcoholic? I could concede some responsibility, if I'm generous, but only a sliver.
    Did it give her diabetes and sleep apnea? See obesity.

    Same with crime. It is reductionist in the extreme to look at the problems in black America today and say "Because: Racism".

    It is reductionist in the extreme to look at the problems in black America today and say “Because: Racism”.

    I have a mechanics shop in which I cram all the tools I can to help solve all the various mechanical problems I encounter.

    SJWs, on the other hand, reduce their “tool” kit until they have one limited class of tool: shouting “racism” and “privilege” and legacy thereof.

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    • Replies: @Oswald Spengler
    When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
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  6. “Being Black in America” often translates as “Living Amongst Underclass Blacks.”

    And “Living Amongst Underclass Blacks” is bad for one’s health, explaining the comely Ms. Khazan’s desire to help blacks by moving them en masse away from where she wants to live.

    I think iSteve is on to something here – I doubt that the breathless readings of Tennessee Coates by the new class are much more than a ruse. They want to “help” underclass blacks by getting them away from their gentrifying whitopias and making them the problem of Badwhites whom they can defame to expiate their guilt.

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    • Replies: @Macumazahn
    "Tennessee Coates" - is that how one pronounces the name of America's Foremost Black Intellectual?
    I always thought it was more along the lines of "'Tain't Easy Coates" but hey, that's just me. Cripes, I still pronounce Mrs Jay-Z's name as a rhyme with "donkey". Don't even ask me about Mary J. Bilge.
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  7. Mishra says:
    @DFH

    OLGA KHAZAN
     
    Has the Khazar meme gone too far?

    She looks pretty much like every white woman I’ve ever known, even though her name is ‘different’.

    What I want to know is: where are her eyeglasses?

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    • Replies: @Dmitry
    She has SJW glasses for Twitter.

    Jewish name and matched for Google, but she has little discussion of Israel. So it seems sure she is not Israeli (which can be guessed also probably from the gender politics interest).


    https://twitter.com/olgakhazan/status/978982721803481088

    -

    More -

    She's from Leningrad, but also without any Russian identity anymore.

    I like America, but something scary how America takes so rapidly so many people from their home countries, and they can become so quickly globalized cosmopolitans without connection, or hardly able to speak, even to their first language.

    Journalist for The Atlantic like Julia Ioffe (but without the role of anti-Russian propaganda).

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/07/learning-forgetting-and-remembering-your-first-language/374906/

    , @Bardon Kaldian

    She looks pretty much like every white woman I’ve ever known
     
    No, she's not fat enough-yet.....
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  8. bomag says:
    @Bill P
    It isn't going to work. The social welfare cost of blacks is enormous, and exurban whites just don't have the resources to provide for them.

    If blacks were shipped off to where whites are really poor, they'd start dying at much higher rates, having childhood nutrition problems, higher maternal and infant mortality, getting pneumonia, suffering from exposure, etc. It would be a humanitarian crisis.

    People underestimate the tenacity and resourcefulness required to get by in poor white areas, especially in northern states.

    It isn’t going to work. The social welfare cost of blacks is enormous, and exurban whites just don’t have the resources to provide for them.

    Modern logistics, infrastructure, and the wealth of Western countries has the central gov’t dishing out checks to the hinterland to maintain one and all “in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed.”

    The question is how many can be supported until the money runs out?

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    The question is how many can be supported until the money runs out?
     
    The money will never run out. Just Quantitatively Ease. After a good Printer Bowel Movement, economic Disney World can continue. I'm sure there will be container for support program in there.
    , @AndrewR
    The wealth of Denmark and Norway has the US government dishing out money to people all around the US? What?
    , @Olorin
    I don't know what experience you have with the actual US hinterlands...but "central government checks" "dished out" don't seem to improve anything there.

    For starters, the majority of it is either housing scam or Big Ag/Big Pharma:

    https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2009/march/federal-funding-in-rural-america-goes-far-beyond-agriculture/

    And the "income security" majority noted above isn't staying in the pockets of rural America. It's going to Wal-Mart, fast food, AGM/Cargill/etc., Big Tobacco, Comcast, Exxon/Mobil, etc., and thousands of smaller players.

    Welfare is corporate and private sector subsidy laundered through carefully wrangled Huddled Masses.

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  9. Bugg says:
    @Bill P
    It isn't going to work. The social welfare cost of blacks is enormous, and exurban whites just don't have the resources to provide for them.

    If blacks were shipped off to where whites are really poor, they'd start dying at much higher rates, having childhood nutrition problems, higher maternal and infant mortality, getting pneumonia, suffering from exposure, etc. It would be a humanitarian crisis.

    People underestimate the tenacity and resourcefulness required to get by in poor white areas, especially in northern states.

    Hospitals, in patient drug programs, medical procedures, subsidized housing, outright welfare, it doesn’t end. And worse, it doesn’t work.This read like a contest about who cares less about this woman’s well-being, her family or herself. And the solutions white liberals offer is more of the same. At what point can you suggest this woman should deal with the hard consequences of her poor choices and stop blaming nebulous undefined racism? And really once again racism is posited as the cause of all this woman’s problems. But there’s no substantive link here, it’s simply put out there as accepted fact. Most of the people in the institutions trying to endlessly help her are probably white.

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    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    It's an astonishing article; as you say, it reveals so much.

    If you read carefully, what's most striking is that although Kiarra is being held up as a consummate victim, she's already had so much help in her life that it's hard to keep a tally:

    ***The article mentions that she's got health insurance, which gives or has given her access to wide-ranging health care, including psychiatric hospitalization, weekly sessions with a psychotherapist, weight-loss coaching, rehab for booze, and a carefully-managed opportunity for gastric-sleeve surgery, in addition to her regular medical visits for her incipient diabetes. She also mentions she has yet to be given a device to manage her fat-induced sleep apnea that she had been 'promised'.

    ***She's had uncounted (literally) opportunities to get a college degree; she's dropped out of 'one local college after another'. She also enrols in a medical assistant training program she seems to abandon.

    ***She held more than one 'solid job' that she quit because it didn't rise to her 'ceiling', which is to be an 'important person'. At the time of writing, she holds a job that's poo-pooed for its low pay, but she's still got enough money for lots of fast food.

    ***The article alludes to her receiving food stamps, and getting subsidized housing through her rehab program.

    The purpose of this article is to explain how all of this help and all of these opportunities are Not Enough. There is so much more savioring yet to be done.
    , @MarkinLA
    Only a racist would notice that she is a fat ugly old black woman.
    , @Twinkie

    Hospitals, in patient drug programs, medical procedures, subsidized housing, outright welfare, it doesn’t end.
     
    I just came from a board meeting for a multi-hospital medical system.

    One of the doctors at the hospital hosting the meeting was pretty grumpy - turns out a massively obese black woman came in today for a series of procedures, took up about four hours of operating room time and multiple specialists. She was on Medicare, of course. The facility and the specialists (employed by the hospital) will receive a grand total Medicare reimbursement of... wait for it... $100 (the surgeons were from elsewhere and will receive a separate reimbursement).

    Next time you debate the soaring healthcare costs in the U.S., remember this - with just about any responsible population, medical costs can be controlled under just about any reasonable system - private, public, single-payer, cash-only, whatever. But NOT when you have a slice of the population that is irresponsible and consumes a massive amount of escalating costs.
    , @Dieter Kief
    How does black humor work on this one?

    Most of the people in the institutions trying to endlessly help her are probably white.
     
    By stating that this very fact you put down so clearly is just that: Proof of racism. because: What else could be the reason, that all those professional helpers are - - white?!

    Q. e. d.

    (sigh - an eternal circle - a perpetuum mobile - - - a miracle...)

    , @Forbes
    Utopian governance: The state will provide for (nearly) every imaginable necessity--you needn't be responsible for for your own upkeep, maintenance, or overhead. Any risks you take will be backstopped by the gov't should an adverse outcome result. Gains privatized, losses socialized.

    Life is hard, reality is harsh--you will be compensated.
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  10. Kurlos says:

    “except in the case of a few specific ailments, such as nondiabetic kidney disease, scientists have largely failed to identify genetic differences that might explain racial health disparities. The major underlying causes, many scientists now believe, are social and environmental forces that affect African Americans more than most other groups.”

    Does steve have a collection of medical conditions with racial differences that are genetically based?

    http://thescienceexplorer.com/brain-and-body/genetic-ancestry-partially-explains-racial-sleep-differences

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    Does steve have a collection of medical conditions with racial differences that are genetically based?
     
    Greg Cochran writes about some of them in this post from 2015: Born that way
    , @phil
    Neil Risch at UC-San Francisco is a specialist on the matter and can give you more references.
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  11. Flip says:

    Like Oakland and Brooklyn, a gentrified Baltimore would have tremendous value given its stellar location.

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    • Replies: @Hibernian
    Do you mean 30 miles from DC? I don't think many gentrifiers want a 60 mile daily round trip commute.
    , @Antlitz Grollheim
    The Inner Harbor is gorgeous.
    , @Mishra
    It's not just its location. Baltimore is full of spectacular old architecture and still has a tremendous amount of high-quality housing stock.

    Given that large swathes of its ghettos are being razed, and most of its infrastructure remains intact, Baltimore is indeed prime for the picking. The only thing in the way is the people, and programs are already in place to relocate them to the surrounding county.

    If Hillary were president the process would be much further along. But it's happening anyway, and no one's going to stop it.

    , @Anon
    What's stellar about its location?
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  12. syonredux says:

    I’ve been saying this for decades, so I doubt if it will ever get through, but it’s obvious that poor inner city blacks are the American real estate market’s biggest hot potato. So, there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists.

    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial…..For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality….

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    a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial
     
    Not to Whites.  Access to White people is not a human right.
    , @istevefan

    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial…..For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality….
     
    Blacks are 12 percent of the population, but for the most part are highly concentrated in certain areas. So in some places their numbers are quite small to nonexistent. What if you could change that? Suppose you had the power to spread the black population out equally among every state, county, city, town and neighborhood so that every place in the USA was 12 percent black, no more no less.

    I imagine it would make several cities a bit more livable, but would really destroy a lot of places too. My guestimate is that a black population of 5% or more causes a noticeable change in a town or school. And 10 percent or more is enough to cause white flight for those who can afford it. So though it would probably be best for blacks in general to be equally spread out, it would really change much of the nation for the worse. On the other hand it might cause a large junk of the 40 percent of whites who still vote democrat to reassess.
    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    I wouldn't count on that. As has been seen from time to time, social media enabled flash mobs are a real thing, and are not dependent upon a the site to be filled with resident youfs. In fact, the flash mob most often assembles far from where its participants live. And one rotten household can drag down a neighborhood to such a degree that it discourages others from living there, thereby opening the neighborhood to rapid and catastrophic degradation. Sad but true.
    , @Travis
    not enough white families....16% of the youth in America are Black and 30% are hispanic. The average white American is 48 years-old while the average age of Blacks is 31 years-old. We are quickly running out of white people.

    on the East Coast over 20% of teenagers are Black. In the States of Maryland and Virginia 25% of school-age children are Black, in Delaware 22% are Black, In New Jersey 21% are Black....Once a school population reaches 20% Black the whites start fleeing the area to find "good Schools".
    , @donut
    "One Black family per block" . Do you have any experience with Negroes other than avoiding them ?
    , @Dr. X
    This very scenario terrifies me -- to quote Jefferson -- "like a fire-bell in the night."

    I live in an affordable, middle-class, lily-white (98.6 per cent) town. Other than DUI and an occasional domestic, crime is non-existent. There is no graffiti here, and no drugs sold or used on the street. My neighbors do not lock their doors (although, being an untrusting type, I do). In the city, twenty miles away as the crow flies, is the black section where there are shootings and stabbings and robberies on a nightly basis. The possibility of those people being encouraged by the government to move out to my town -- especially as I get older -- ensures that the local gun shop gets a fair amount of my coin...

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Why do so many white people, such as yourself, have this white knight mentality? Why is it white people's job to fix blacks?

    Sure, some of our ancestors brought over some Africans to work as slaves. So what? Slavery has been a stable of societies since the dawn of history and before. Are Middle Easterners responsible for Europeans because they used them as slaves? No, of course not.

    We owe nothing to blacks. Nothing.

    They fail at being white because, wait for it, they aren't white. Why is that so hard to understand. It continually stuns me that commentators on this blog - an HBD blog - are always shocked, shocked to discover that non-whites don't act and perform like whites. Wow, who would have guessed that.

    We (and I'm just as guilty as anyone) do with black - why is their crime so high. We do it with Hispanics - why can't their test scores be higher. We do it with Asians - why are they so focused on getting high grades (and gaming tests) but not on really learning the material.

    Because they're not white! Doesn't make them better or worse. They are just doing what comes natural to them, just as we do. It's why people are happier living among their own and governing themselves.

    Screw black-a-block. Let them live among themselves and let whites live with other whites. We'll all be happier.
    , @Kylie
    "...a nation-wide version of the 'one Black family per block' policy would be highly beneficial…..For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality...."

    Highly beneficial to whom? Certainly not to the white neighbors. Wrt to black families and a lower quality of life for their white neighbors, one is one too many.

    And I don't give a flip about cutting down black dysfunctionality. I want it contained, confined solely to black neighborhoods.
    , @AnotherDad

    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial…..For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality….
     
    Syonredux, i generally read and appreciate your comments. But this is one of the more clueless--dated, cucky, white knighty--things i have ever read.

    This is what we absolutely *must not* allow to happen.

    Chicago's Jews, in concert with the Obama administration, already pushed a bunch more blacks into my cousin's Dubuque. Not to her benefit. They would like to do this nationwide. Make flyover country gentiles live with the dysfunction of *their* vote bank.

    It's the heart and soul of minoritarianism. The majority is just *not entitled* to enjoy what they have built in peace. They must yield their stuff--i'll say it again--companies and communities, neighborhoods and nations, to minorities.

    In fact, what we must do is the reverse. Whites--now forced into being a minority in our own nation--must behave more like Jews and say "we're an ethnic group and demand to have our own stuff, have our own communities, preserve our own race and culture, have our own nations."

    Demand separation and make all the white goodthinkers--Jews and their fellow traveller gentiles--who love "diversity" so damn much live in their rainbow hued utopia with their black, "Hispanic" and muzzie mascots themselves and let whites who want to be left alone to enjoy their "whiteness" go about their business without harassment.

    It's ok to be white.
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  13. Ibound1 says:

    The food choices made in the inner city – sugary, processed, fat, fast food – cannot be overcome by moving anyone anywhere. They are the same choices Theodore Dalrymple notes are made by the English underclass with the exact same results: obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure. Cutting out food stamps and payments and replacing them with canteens where the poor are given a healthy meal for a minimal payment (as is done in India) might help. But it will never be done.

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    What makes children children is that they don't have judgment. It isn't as much that they lack IQ as compared to adults: plenty of ten to twelve year old kids are smarter than the left side of the bell curve of the adult population. And it isn't so much their smaller size. It's that they lack the ability to make sound decisions.

    Underclass blacks, and to a lesser extent lumpenprole whites, make poor decisions, consistently. That's why antebellum and Reconstruction Southern aristocrats and South African Boers regarded them as children. Children in big, powerful bodies sometimes, but children.

    Blacks' health would benefit enormously by getting rid of HFCS and restricting soft drinks and sugary packaged ready to eat foods, but since the restriction can't be applied specifically to blacks , whites would bitch that their rights were being interfered with.

    Also, when applied specifically to blacks, a certain level of gun control would make sense: not disarming them entirely, because they need to be able to defend themselves, but restricting them to weapons that are not too concealable, don't have too much firepower easily available, and are loud enough they know damn well they won't fire them without everyone knowing would make sense. But us white gun nuts can't support this kind of legislation, and we won't, because only the NRA's hardass and absolutist opposition to all gun laws has kept most any kind of firearm from being banned not only for blacks and prolewhites but anyone who isn't wealthy and connected enough to put up with things like New York City's Nazi pistol permit process. (Actually, I don't think the Nazis made it as hard for people to get guns as New York does.)

    , @AnotherDad

    The food choices made in the inner city – sugary, processed, fat, fast food – cannot be overcome by moving anyone anywhere. They are the same choices Theodore Dalrymple notes are made by the English underclass with the exact same results: obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure. Cutting out food stamps and payments and replacing them with canteens where the poor are given a healthy meal for a minimal payment (as is done in India) might help. But it will never be done.
     
    "Food choices" isn't really the problem. The problem is that modernity has arrived and is delivering the goods, and we no longer have the constraints and selection pressure that used to discipline and cull stupid and ill-disciplined people.

    You simply can not maintain modernity--much less modernity with a welfare state--without eugenics.

    The nations that go on to succeed and dominate will in one way or another do some sort of eugenics. Maybe that can be put off until it can be done technologically with genomics--not sure. But one way or another the future will be eugenic. The people/nations that figure that out and make it happen will win. It can not be stopped.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Ibound1 , I volunteer at an inner city mission in Buffalo. What we serve is basically what is donated, but sorry to say that our guests can be quite choosey. The like fried food and usually drench everything in hot sauce.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    "They are the same choices Theodore Dalrymple notes are made by the English underclass with the exact same results: obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure"

    By strange chance UK TV is showing a reality show where 8 people are trying to lose weight because they have Type 2 diabetes. The 8 are - 7 white, one black - but pretty much all the nice helpful medics - from the dreadlocked professor of medicine to the pretty dreadlocked nurses - are black or Asian.
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  14. Anon7 says:

    In essence, what you have is an agent that causes Urban Blight. Why not make a positive out of a negative? You just keep moving them around. Wherever they leave, property values go up, and wherever they go, property values go down.

    If you can’t make a buck with that, you’re just not paying attention.

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    Maybe colleges could add Tragic Dirt studies to their offerings.
    , @Stan d Mute

    In essence, what you have is an agent that causes Urban Blight. Why not make a positive out of a negative? You just keep moving them around. Wherever they leave, property values go up, and wherever they go, property values go down.
     
    That’s the definition of White Flight except that the negroes don’t ever leave the areas they’ve destroyed. Their population growth is thus more like a mold or fungus spreading across a Petri dish. Look at Detroit. The only places where they’ve receded at all are where Mexicans have invaded and a couple rehabbed buildings downtown they couldn’t afford.
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  15. @syonredux

    I’ve been saying this for decades, so I doubt if it will ever get through, but it’s obvious that poor inner city blacks are the American real estate market’s biggest hot potato. So, there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists.
     
    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the "one Black family per block" policy would be highly beneficial.....For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality....

    a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial

    Not to Whites.  Access to White people is not a human right.

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    a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial

    Not to Whites. Access to White people is not a human right.
     
    Alternative idea: make Alabama and Mississippi independent Black nation-states. Engage in population exchanges (all non-Blacks leave MS and AL and all Blacks leave the USA).

    Of course, if my first idea was a pipe dream, this one is pure cloudcuckooland.....
    , @Thomm

    Not to Whites. Access to White people is not a human right.
     
    Correct, but I would prefer if we take it one step further.

    Part of the reason that the better 80% of whites exhibits such excellence is that the white race diverts all of its genetic waste matter into the bottom 20%. This bottom 20% effectively becomes a defective subrace that acts as a carrier for the removal of waste matter.

    The men of this race become White Nationalists. The women become fat bluehaired feminists.

    The members of this defective subrace (even if borne of proper whites) should also be exiled out of white society when they reach adulthood. Then the removal of waste matter as nature intended is even more efficient.
    , @AndrewR
    Access to slave labor imported from Africa isn't either, but that didn't stop early Americans, so now we are stuck with 40 million blacks whose ancestors were probably here before yours.
    , @ThirdWorldSteveReader
    But the thesis is that it would benefit American whites; the blacks benefit from not living in the ghetto, and the whites benefit from not having to deal with the incursions of ghetto thuglets into normal society.
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  16. Grumpy says:

    Audacious Epigone posted an interesting map of the United States.

    http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2018/06/white-births-as-percentage-of-total.html

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  17. istevefan says:
    @syonredux

    I’ve been saying this for decades, so I doubt if it will ever get through, but it’s obvious that poor inner city blacks are the American real estate market’s biggest hot potato. So, there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists.
     
    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the "one Black family per block" policy would be highly beneficial.....For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality....

    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial…..For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality….

    Blacks are 12 percent of the population, but for the most part are highly concentrated in certain areas. So in some places their numbers are quite small to nonexistent. What if you could change that? Suppose you had the power to spread the black population out equally among every state, county, city, town and neighborhood so that every place in the USA was 12 percent black, no more no less.

    I imagine it would make several cities a bit more livable, but would really destroy a lot of places too. My guestimate is that a black population of 5% or more causes a noticeable change in a town or school. And 10 percent or more is enough to cause white flight for those who can afford it. So though it would probably be best for blacks in general to be equally spread out, it would really change much of the nation for the worse. On the other hand it might cause a large junk of the 40 percent of whites who still vote democrat to reassess.

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    I imagine it would make several cities a bit more livable, but would really destroy a lot of places too. My guestimate is that a black population of 5% or more causes a noticeable change in a town or school. And 10 percent or more is enough to cause white flight for those who can afford it. So though it would probably be best for blacks in general to be equally spread out, it would really change much of the nation for the worse.
     
    Yeah. 10% is definitely too high.My idea was for Blacks to be no more than 1-2% of each municipality/county....Pipe dream, of course....
    , @GermanReader2
    According to Tino Sanandaji White flight in Sweden starts once the share of the non-Western population reaches 4 percent.
    , @Stick
    This is called the 'Black Shack' effect. When a unit exceeds 10% of blacks within a unit the blacks self segregate into the Black Shack. This was noticed during Vietnam within combat and combat support units. The remedy was keep blacks in any unit under 10% and preferably <5%. By doing so the blacks identify with the unit instead of their blackness and the unit's efficiency is maintained. At 10% the regression to mean is a powerful undertow.
    , @Anon
    When the black population of San Francisco’s was minuscule before WW2 they caused few problems. When they were brought her to work in the shipyards during WW2 they caused most of the problems in the city. 1970 census they were 11 percent and they aeee about 95% of the criminals and welfare people. They destroyed entire very nice neighborhoods.

    One neighborhood Fillmore Divisadoro lower Pacific Heights went from a lovely neighborhood to an infamous criminal black ghetto and back to a wonderful neighborhood in about 60 years 1940 to 2000.
    1940 White and Japanese 1950 1980 black criminal ghetto 1980 White gay men gentrified. 2000 Wonderful White and Asian neighborhood

    Any black population over 5 percent is a disaster. 10 percent it’s all over.
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  18. Hibernian says:
    @Flip
    Like Oakland and Brooklyn, a gentrified Baltimore would have tremendous value given its stellar location.

    Do you mean 30 miles from DC? I don’t think many gentrifiers want a 60 mile daily round trip commute.

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    A 30 mile commute in the DC area is not uncommon given the cost of close in housing.
    , @Buck Turgidson
    Some Baltimore residents commute to work in DC daily -- but it's a relatively low number. '30 miles' is actually more like 60 miles (from Alexandria VA--to Johns Hopkins U campus). To drive it every day would get old very fast, as would slugging it out on the train, it's a big time sink either way.
    , @AnotherDad
    Hibernian, every yuppie doesn't have to work in D.C.

    Not a Baltimore guy, but even I know John Hopkins--a leading medical center, med school in the US--is right there within a 1/2 mile of the inner harbor. The whole setup of that inner harbor area of Baltimore would be a yuppie paradise, but for blacks. If the real estate guys could arrange an air burst neutron bomb or release some strain of plague or get everyone to agree it's racism for blacks to live in Baltimore--anything to get the joint cleaned out--they'd have a field day.
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    [My Baltimore neighbors] are not particularly affluent people who are getting to live the way relatively ordinary people could once live in cities that have now gotten fancy.
     
    Seems like another way to say that diversity is not our strength.

    In the more homogeneous society of past days, we were more able to share the nice things.

    Now it is harder to have nice things.
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  20. Also in The Atlantic, the poz never ends.

    Today’s Masculinity Is Stifling, by Sarah Rich

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    Its amazing how little knowledge these people have or history or culture or human nature. It’s almost as if they are aliens who have never met a real human.
    , @CCZ
    Today’s Masculinity Is Stifling - Not to these guys.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeN9V9CU0kg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swQLjUxsqh8

    , @Forbes
    Funny, I find it's Feminism that's stifling--always making demands, always expecting their demands to be satisfied by men, always expressing disappointment in men when their demands go unsatisfied, lather, rinse, repeat.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Jenner, that is a sad illustration. Maybe a photo of Sarah Rich strapping on a dildo would be better.
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  21. @Bill P
    It isn't going to work. The social welfare cost of blacks is enormous, and exurban whites just don't have the resources to provide for them.

    If blacks were shipped off to where whites are really poor, they'd start dying at much higher rates, having childhood nutrition problems, higher maternal and infant mortality, getting pneumonia, suffering from exposure, etc. It would be a humanitarian crisis.

    People underestimate the tenacity and resourcefulness required to get by in poor white areas, especially in northern states.

    Au contraire, it sounds like it’s going to work perfectly. They can just blame the poor whites for the blacks’ new problems.

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    Nah, the poor whites have nothing to take, or only enough to take something without having them pay for blacks. The whole point of blaming people is to justify dispossessing them. That's why this black redistribution drive is a non-starter.

    In fact, there's an entire class of white people who thrive off black dysfunctionality, and they don't live in West Virginia or Idaho. Killing this industry would take more political clout than wannabe gentrifiers can muster.

    You'd have to resort to Nazi ideology to justify population transfers of blacks to the hinterlands. That may happen at some point, but the progressives aren't ready to go there quite yet.
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  22. Thea says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Also in The Atlantic, the poz never ends.

    Today’s Masculinity Is Stifling, by Sarah Rich

    https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2018/06/_Masculinity_for_The_Atlantic_2/lead_720_405.jpg?mod=1528491687

    Its amazing how little knowledge these people have or history or culture or human nature. It’s almost as if they are aliens who have never met a real human.

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    It’s almost as if they are aliens who have never met a real human.
     
    No, these people write articles like this because they have met lots of humans, and have decided to hate one group of humans more than they like another group.
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  23. @syonredux

    I’ve been saying this for decades, so I doubt if it will ever get through, but it’s obvious that poor inner city blacks are the American real estate market’s biggest hot potato. So, there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists.
     
    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the "one Black family per block" policy would be highly beneficial.....For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality....

    I wouldn’t count on that. As has been seen from time to time, social media enabled flash mobs are a real thing, and are not dependent upon a the site to be filled with resident youfs. In fact, the flash mob most often assembles far from where its participants live. And one rotten household can drag down a neighborhood to such a degree that it discourages others from living there, thereby opening the neighborhood to rapid and catastrophic degradation. Sad but true.

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    You are very right. It takes only one wildly dysfunctional household--along with their extended family, friends, suppliers, and so on--to wreck an entire neighborhood.

    The people nearest the nightmare will move first, and who do you think will take their place? Then: rapid metastasis.

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  24. syonredux says:
    @istevefan

    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial…..For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality….
     
    Blacks are 12 percent of the population, but for the most part are highly concentrated in certain areas. So in some places their numbers are quite small to nonexistent. What if you could change that? Suppose you had the power to spread the black population out equally among every state, county, city, town and neighborhood so that every place in the USA was 12 percent black, no more no less.

    I imagine it would make several cities a bit more livable, but would really destroy a lot of places too. My guestimate is that a black population of 5% or more causes a noticeable change in a town or school. And 10 percent or more is enough to cause white flight for those who can afford it. So though it would probably be best for blacks in general to be equally spread out, it would really change much of the nation for the worse. On the other hand it might cause a large junk of the 40 percent of whites who still vote democrat to reassess.

    I imagine it would make several cities a bit more livable, but would really destroy a lot of places too. My guestimate is that a black population of 5% or more causes a noticeable change in a town or school. And 10 percent or more is enough to cause white flight for those who can afford it. So though it would probably be best for blacks in general to be equally spread out, it would really change much of the nation for the worse.

    Yeah. 10% is definitely too high.My idea was for Blacks to be no more than 1-2% of each municipality/county….Pipe dream, of course….

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  25. @istevefan

    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial…..For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality….
     
    Blacks are 12 percent of the population, but for the most part are highly concentrated in certain areas. So in some places their numbers are quite small to nonexistent. What if you could change that? Suppose you had the power to spread the black population out equally among every state, county, city, town and neighborhood so that every place in the USA was 12 percent black, no more no less.

    I imagine it would make several cities a bit more livable, but would really destroy a lot of places too. My guestimate is that a black population of 5% or more causes a noticeable change in a town or school. And 10 percent or more is enough to cause white flight for those who can afford it. So though it would probably be best for blacks in general to be equally spread out, it would really change much of the nation for the worse. On the other hand it might cause a large junk of the 40 percent of whites who still vote democrat to reassess.

    According to Tino Sanandaji White flight in Sweden starts once the share of the non-Western population reaches 4 percent.

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  26. Dmitry says:

    Olga Khazan is an Israeli-American I guess? (American with a Russian personal name combined with such a Jewish surname – Хазан).

    We were discussing on the Anatoly Karlin blog earlier this week, her video about why Americans smile so much .

    She has interesting data and ideas, but she cannot explain anything and ends the video weakly.

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    Apparently, she's from Leningrad. Perhaps she should ask "Why do Russians smile so little?"

    A topic which she might actually have some insight...
    , @Low Voltage
    She has a point. Most American smiles are as a fake as a $3 bill. It's not a terrible thing, but it reduces one of the most basic human emotions to a business transaction.

    The two things that always hit me first when I go overseas are "Where are the fat people?" and "Why isn't anyone smiling at me?"

    The bottom line is that American business decided that smiles sell burgers, clothes, and whatever else. Therefore, their employees are going to smile, and then people start marketing themselves and their "brand" by smiling more in public.
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  27. TheBoom says:

    Given that white people are the cause of all blacks’ problems, wouldn’t isolating blacks from whites be the solution? Shouldn’t we be using the Haiti model by helping blacks live on an island of blackness away from white privilege and microagressions?

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    Great idea, but everyone knows that black children cannot learn unless they are surrounded by white children. Magic white pixie dust and all that. Whites are magic.
    , @Mishra
    But they don't really care about helping blacks or black neighborhoods. They just want to appear to care about those things, even and especially to themselves.

    What they care about is wrecking "bad" whites and their neighborhoods. And about this they are remarkably straightforward.

    , @AnotherDad

    Given that white people are the cause of all blacks’ problems, wouldn’t isolating blacks from whites be the solution? Shouldn’t we be using the Haiti model by helping blacks live on an island of blackness away from white privilege and microagressions?
     
    Spot on. The logic of the "progressives"--and absolutely beaten home with the jihad over Michael Brown--is that whites cause black problems, which suggests the elegant solution of … separation!

    If young black men don't have to obey white cops' directions and are entitled to assualt them instead then, it's absolutely clear that blacks and whites should be in separate communities with separate police forces. The logic there seems pretty darn inescapable to me.

    What's badly needed is some Republican--"the white party"--politicians to be direct and explicit in pointing this logic out.

    ~~

    You can only really have a "community" when everyone in the community is on-board, on the same page in terms of norms and values. That's what a "community" is. There is no such thing as a truely "diverse community". You can have multi-ethnic, maybe even multi-racial. But someone's norms and values must prevail, and be the community's standard of behavior, or there is no "community".

    (This basic issue--Jewish rejection of integration to the Christian community--is at the heart of Jewish/gentile conflict in Europe down through the ages. And the Gypsy one too. And lots of other places where there are non-integrable ethnic groups in proximity--conflict. The only way anyone--i.e. empires--have ever made "diversity" work is having each group separately take care of itself and beating the crap out of any group that gets out of line. See Romans or Ottoman Empire.)

    The basic answer to whining about whites holding blacks (or anyone else) down is … ok, let's not live together! Problem solved!
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  28. Bill P says:
    @WowJustWow
    Au contraire, it sounds like it's going to work perfectly. They can just blame the poor whites for the blacks' new problems.

    Nah, the poor whites have nothing to take, or only enough to take something without having them pay for blacks. The whole point of blaming people is to justify dispossessing them. That’s why this black redistribution drive is a non-starter.

    In fact, there’s an entire class of white people who thrive off black dysfunctionality, and they don’t live in West Virginia or Idaho. Killing this industry would take more political clout than wannabe gentrifiers can muster.

    You’d have to resort to Nazi ideology to justify population transfers of blacks to the hinterlands. That may happen at some point, but the progressives aren’t ready to go there quite yet.

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    In fact, there’s an entire class of white people who thrive off black dysfunctionality, and they don’t live in West Virginia or Idaho. Killing this industry would take more political clout than wannabe gentrifiers can muster.
     
    The criminal justice industry, all the way from parole officers, prison psychologists, university extension classes in prison, prosecutors, defense lawyers and their staff and on and on. The list is endless.
    Don't forget the companies that sell prisons weightlifting equipment so they can bulk up and terrorize when released.
    , @Expletive Deleted

    You’d have to resort to Nazi ideology to justify population transfers of blacks to the hinterlands.
     
    More like Tsarist/Stalinist methods, Bill.
    Once the reality of being mass-exiled to Appalachi-siberia and Michi-khazakhstan dawns on the special ones, there'll be some rare and exquisite wailing and gnashing.
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  29. CCZ says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Also in The Atlantic, the poz never ends.

    Today’s Masculinity Is Stifling, by Sarah Rich

    https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2018/06/_Masculinity_for_The_Atlantic_2/lead_720_405.jpg?mod=1528491687

    Today’s Masculinity Is Stifling – Not to these guys.

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  30. syonredux says:
    @Mr. Rational

    a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial
     
    Not to Whites.  Access to White people is not a human right.

    a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial

    Not to Whites. Access to White people is not a human right.

    Alternative idea: make Alabama and Mississippi independent Black nation-states. Engage in population exchanges (all non-Blacks leave MS and AL and all Blacks leave the USA).

    Of course, if my first idea was a pipe dream, this one is pure cloudcuckooland…..

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    "make Alabama and Mississippi independent Black nation-states. "

    The Republic of New Afrika (RNA) was founded in 1968 and is a Black separatist idea popularized within Black nationalist and Black supremacist groups in the United States.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_New_Afrika
    , @MBlanc46
    A black homeland of some sort is probably the best approach.
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  31. @Bugg
    Hospitals, in patient drug programs, medical procedures, subsidized housing, outright welfare, it doesn't end. And worse, it doesn't work.This read like a contest about who cares less about this woman's well-being, her family or herself. And the solutions white liberals offer is more of the same. At what point can you suggest this woman should deal with the hard consequences of her poor choices and stop blaming nebulous undefined racism? And really once again racism is posited as the cause of all this woman's problems. But there's no substantive link here, it's simply put out there as accepted fact. Most of the people in the institutions trying to endlessly help her are probably white.

    It’s an astonishing article; as you say, it reveals so much.

    If you read carefully, what’s most striking is that although Kiarra is being held up as a consummate victim, she’s already had so much help in her life that it’s hard to keep a tally:

    ***The article mentions that she’s got health insurance, which gives or has given her access to wide-ranging health care, including psychiatric hospitalization, weekly sessions with a psychotherapist, weight-loss coaching, rehab for booze, and a carefully-managed opportunity for gastric-sleeve surgery, in addition to her regular medical visits for her incipient diabetes. She also mentions she has yet to be given a device to manage her fat-induced sleep apnea that she had been ‘promised’.

    ***She’s had uncounted (literally) opportunities to get a college degree; she’s dropped out of ‘one local college after another’. She also enrols in a medical assistant training program she seems to abandon.

    ***She held more than one ‘solid job’ that she quit because it didn’t rise to her ‘ceiling’, which is to be an ‘important person’. At the time of writing, she holds a job that’s poo-pooed for its low pay, but she’s still got enough money for lots of fast food.

    ***The article alludes to her receiving food stamps, and getting subsidized housing through her rehab program.

    The purpose of this article is to explain how all of this help and all of these opportunities are Not Enough. There is so much more savioring yet to be done.

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  32. Dmitry says:
    @Mishra
    She looks pretty much like every white woman I've ever known, even though her name is 'different'.

    What I want to know is: where are her eyeglasses?

    https://www.unzcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Screenshot-2017-09-23-15.48.07.png

    She has SJW glasses for Twitter.

    Jewish name and matched for Google, but she has little discussion of Israel. So it seems sure she is not Israeli (which can be guessed also probably from the gender politics interest).

    -

    More –

    She’s from Leningrad, but also without any Russian identity anymore.

    I like America, but something scary how America takes so rapidly so many people from their home countries, and they can become so quickly globalized cosmopolitans without connection, or hardly able to speak, even to their first language.

    Journalist for The Atlantic like Julia Ioffe (but without the role of anti-Russian propaganda).

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/07/learning-forgetting-and-remembering-your-first-language/374906/

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    Journalist for The Atlantic like Julia Ioffe (but without the role of anti-Russian propaganda).
     
    Several years ago, it was a little more her old assignment for the magazine.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/10/russias-online-comment-propaganda-army/280432/

    , @Stan Adams

    I like America, but something scary how America takes so rapidly so many people from their home countries, and they can become so quickly globalized cosmopolitans without connection, or hardly able to speak, even to their first language.
     
    On behalf of all Americans, let me say that we are the Borg. We will add your biological, technological, and linguistic distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.

    That being said, I've been thinking of switching over to Anglish. Latin, Greek, and French words are way overrated.

    http://anglish.wikia.com/wiki/Board_of_Firststuffs

    In Blendlore, the Board of Firststuffs, otherwise called the Board of Ormotes, is a layout of the blendlorish firststuffs, byset into: uncleftish tally, bernstonebit fettle, and blendlorish hallmarks.

    The Board of Firststuffs was first made by the Russian Blendloreman, Dmitri Mendeleev, in the mid-nineteenth century. Mendeleev's finding led to an outbreaking in the field of blendlore, and was outstanding in the later unriddling of the Uncleftish Beholding.
     
    Cowflesh is a far kewler word than beef.
    , @International Jew
    I'll bet she knows a lot more Russian than "20-30 words", if she was raised in a Russian-speaking household. In fact the experience of living in Russia for her first four years is irrelevant; she'd be functional in Russian just from hearing it at home.

    What's for sure, though, is that at home she didn't learn much of the terminology of Russian trolleybuses or bureaucracy, which she needed negotiating St Petersburg on her own as an adult.

    My life history is similar to hers, and I'm also pretty weak on any subject that didn't come up inside my parents' home. I went "back" for a visit once and people like railroad ticket booth clerks thought I was retarded or something, from my stupid questions and strange terminology. On the other hand, I'm on top of the name of everything in the kitchen, and the rest of the home, and it took my American wife to teach me how to talk to babies in English.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    Dmitry, So glad she has a "long fertility lifespan", but fat chance some guy will want to breed with her.
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  33. George says:
    @syonredux

    a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial

    Not to Whites. Access to White people is not a human right.
     
    Alternative idea: make Alabama and Mississippi independent Black nation-states. Engage in population exchanges (all non-Blacks leave MS and AL and all Blacks leave the USA).

    Of course, if my first idea was a pipe dream, this one is pure cloudcuckooland.....

    “make Alabama and Mississippi independent Black nation-states. ”

    The Republic of New Afrika (RNA) was founded in 1968 and is a Black separatist idea popularized within Black nationalist and Black supremacist groups in the United States.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_New_Afrika

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    In an alternate timeline where the Confederacy succeeded, slavery probably still would have ended by the 1890’s, and I can see the Confederate leaders perhaps setting aside Florida for the blacks. Florida was the least populous of the Southern states until air conditioning became widespread in the 20th century. And out of all of the states, Florida has the climate most similar to sub-Saharan Africa.
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  34. @Hibernian
    Do you mean 30 miles from DC? I don't think many gentrifiers want a 60 mile daily round trip commute.

    A 30 mile commute in the DC area is not uncommon given the cost of close in housing.

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    Sure, same thing in Chicago, but you trade off the 30 mile commute for suburban grass and trees, not recently reclaimed inner city.
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  35. Travis says:
    @syonredux

    I’ve been saying this for decades, so I doubt if it will ever get through, but it’s obvious that poor inner city blacks are the American real estate market’s biggest hot potato. So, there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists.
     
    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the "one Black family per block" policy would be highly beneficial.....For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality....

    not enough white families….16% of the youth in America are Black and 30% are hispanic. The average white American is 48 years-old while the average age of Blacks is 31 years-old. We are quickly running out of white people.

    on the East Coast over 20% of teenagers are Black. In the States of Maryland and Virginia 25% of school-age children are Black, in Delaware 22% are Black, In New Jersey 21% are Black….Once a school population reaches 20% Black the whites start fleeing the area to find “good Schools”.

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  36. Moses says:
    @TheBoom
    Given that white people are the cause of all blacks' problems, wouldn't isolating blacks from whites be the solution? Shouldn't we be using the Haiti model by helping blacks live on an island of blackness away from white privilege and microagressions?

    Great idea, but everyone knows that black children cannot learn unless they are surrounded by white children. Magic white pixie dust and all that. Whites are magic.

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  37. this is an elegant and clear example of how Moldbug’s Cathedral concept works as a decentralized conspiracy. You have the dogma of equalism, the elaboration of which gains you power, destroys your Red State enemies, all while making you feel righteous and part of the smart and beautiful.

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  38. Dmitry says:
    @Dmitry
    She has SJW glasses for Twitter.

    Jewish name and matched for Google, but she has little discussion of Israel. So it seems sure she is not Israeli (which can be guessed also probably from the gender politics interest).


    https://twitter.com/olgakhazan/status/978982721803481088

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    She's from Leningrad, but also without any Russian identity anymore.

    I like America, but something scary how America takes so rapidly so many people from their home countries, and they can become so quickly globalized cosmopolitans without connection, or hardly able to speak, even to their first language.

    Journalist for The Atlantic like Julia Ioffe (but without the role of anti-Russian propaganda).

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/07/learning-forgetting-and-remembering-your-first-language/374906/

    Journalist for The Atlantic like Julia Ioffe (but without the role of anti-Russian propaganda).

    Several years ago, it was a little more her old assignment for the magazine.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/10/russias-online-comment-propaganda-army/280432/

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  39. @Flip
    Like Oakland and Brooklyn, a gentrified Baltimore would have tremendous value given its stellar location.

    The Inner Harbor is gorgeous.

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    Is it relatively safe for tourists to visit?
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  40. MarkinLA says:
    @Bugg
    Hospitals, in patient drug programs, medical procedures, subsidized housing, outright welfare, it doesn't end. And worse, it doesn't work.This read like a contest about who cares less about this woman's well-being, her family or herself. And the solutions white liberals offer is more of the same. At what point can you suggest this woman should deal with the hard consequences of her poor choices and stop blaming nebulous undefined racism? And really once again racism is posited as the cause of all this woman's problems. But there's no substantive link here, it's simply put out there as accepted fact. Most of the people in the institutions trying to endlessly help her are probably white.

    Only a racist would notice that she is a fat ugly old black woman.

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  41. Russian. Jews. Explain. Things. To. Me.

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    It's a trend. One I've already grown tired of.
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  42. donut says:
    @syonredux

    I’ve been saying this for decades, so I doubt if it will ever get through, but it’s obvious that poor inner city blacks are the American real estate market’s biggest hot potato. So, there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists.
     
    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the "one Black family per block" policy would be highly beneficial.....For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality....

    “One Black family per block” . Do you have any experience with Negroes other than avoiding them ?

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    “One Black family per block” . Do you have any experience with Negroes other than avoiding them ?
     
    Yeah. I once lived in a majority Black neighborhood for two years. The rent was cheap as hell.....but there were three separate shootings incidents on the street where I lived....one of which was fatal.....
    , @TTSSYF
    Yes, And my newspaper was stolen every morning.
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  43. Anon[410] • Disclaimer says:

    WaPo did a profile of Mrs. Jobs (the owner of The Atlantic) today:

    The Quest of Laurene Powell Jobs
    Story by David Montgomery

    Laurene Powell made her first foray into philanthropy near the beginning of high school in West Milford. She learned of the work of the Southern Poverty Law Center and dipped into her savings to send a cashier’s check of about $20. She got a form thank-you letter back from civil rights crusader Morris Dees. “They would reliably write to me a couple of times a year,” she says. “I would read them over and over, and they told really beautiful stories. I was always animated by the notion of who gets the opportunity and who doesn’t.” …

    “She wants people to innovate in their sector — education reform, getting the Dream Act passed. So Emerson has become like an accelerator for causes around social change.”…

    If we actually want to be helpful to the individual and their family, we can’t just focus on education, we have to focus on the whole ecosystem so that they can live much more healthy, productive lives where they are,” she says. “Every single community that we work with in College Track is dealing with some issue on the spectrum of serious, poisonous, toxic environmental issues in their air, water and soil.”

    You see white and asian neighborhoods have magic air, but black and latino neighborhoods have tragic air.

    In 2013 Powell Jobs commissioned documentarian Davis Guggenheim (“An Inconvenient Truth,” “He Named Me Malala”) to make a film called “The Dream Is Now” about dreamers hoping to build lives in this country. She wanted it done in a matter of months to have a timely influence on the political debate. It was typical of Emerson Collective’s approach to issues. Alongside the usual tools of polling and policy advocacy, it will create, say, an “immigration innovation incubator” to foster tech solutions, and it will enlist artists and storytellers to appeal to the public on alternative channels.

    Immigration is perhaps the most partisan fight into which she is pushing a stack of her billions of chips, on behalf of those who see the issue the way she does. On the other side is a countervailing apparatus of funders, thinkers and advocates pushing for tighter borders, fewer legal immigrants and more deportations. Since she entered the fray in 2001, her opponents have won nearly every battle in Washington, so she is turning her tactics away from the capital. “We’re looking for ways to activate people around the country, so that they can understand what’s at stake,” she says. “So that they can start building a chorus that Congress can’t ignore.”

    Either way, the dollars will continue to flow toward Powell Jobs’s vision of immigration and education reform. …

    Recently Powell Jobs invited him to … the virtual-reality immersion into crossing the border as an immigrant that Emerson had sponsored in an abandoned church.

    Another interesting angle is one of Mrs. Jobs’ daughter is an equestrian. As is Bill Gates’ Daughter, as is Michael Bloomberg’s daughter. Bill Gates spend $37 million dollars on a house in Florida for horsies (not far from Trump International Golf Club), Bloomberg and Jobs only spent $15 million. Who do we think works at these horse clubs? ;-)

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    Horse frump plutocrat Helen Kriebel bought Newt Gingrich on amnesty for illegal alien invaders before Shelly Adelson bought Gingrich. I could be wrong about the sequence.

    Helen Kriebel enjoys having illegal alien invaders tend to her horses.

    Gingrich has been a mass immigration supporting baby boomer whore for decades.

    Mike Pence is caught up in the amnesty for illegal alien invaders at the behest of Helen Krieble scam.

    Mike Pence is a baby boomer treasonite whore who pushes amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Vdare, Patrick Cleburne:

    Life is tough for Helen Krieble, whose Illegal Immigration "Amnesty with a trip home attached" plan (as Tom Tancredo calls it) has now become "the Pence Plan" and is being used to try to split House opposition to the Bush Administration`s effort to dissolve America.

     

    https://www.vdare.com/posts/help-helen-kriebles-horse-farm-workers-want-to-be-paid-too-much
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  44. syonredux says:
    @donut
    "One Black family per block" . Do you have any experience with Negroes other than avoiding them ?

    “One Black family per block” . Do you have any experience with Negroes other than avoiding them ?

    Yeah. I once lived in a majority Black neighborhood for two years. The rent was cheap as hell…..but there were three separate shootings incidents on the street where I lived….one of which was fatal…..

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  45. njguy73 says:
    @Thea
    Its amazing how little knowledge these people have or history or culture or human nature. It’s almost as if they are aliens who have never met a real human.

    It’s almost as if they are aliens who have never met a real human.

    No, these people write articles like this because they have met lots of humans, and have decided to hate one group of humans more than they like another group.

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  46. @DFH

    OLGA KHAZAN
     
    Has the Khazar meme gone too far?

    A khazan is a standard role/job in a synagogue; the khazan sings some of the prayers. The other, and better-known, term for this job is cantor.

    Nothing to do with the Khazar people of the Caucasus.

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    If you like to follow Israeli politics? It is the name of the most insane and surreal Israeli politician - Oren Khazan.

    Khazan is like their Zhirinovsky - except about ten times more funny and insane. Scrolling through the kind of recent headlines he gets more and more surreal experience the more you headlines you read, realizing he is an parliamentarian of the ruling Likud party:
    https://cursorinfo.co.il/tag/oren-hazan/

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  47. istevefan says:

    OT – More Sailer bait from the NYT. This time it’s a book review entitled, How Christians Destroyed the Ancient World.

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    Old news. Gibbon also blamed Christians . Reality it was drastic fertility loss plus plagues.

    Not enough Romans to go around.

    , @Anonymous
    Don't have time to read, but if it talks about Christian vandalism without mentioning Muslim vandalism then we know it's propaganda rather than history.
    , @nebulafox
    I know a lot of people cite Gibbon as blaming Christianity for why the Roman Empire fell, but I went through the Decline and Fall last year (or at least up until Volume V-getting a job got in the way), and I found that his views were much more complex than that: he thought that Christianity hastened the fall more than causing it, from my impression. And I think that's a reasonably accurate view of it. Christianity didn't make Honorius a retard, for example, but cloistering him away and having him focused on the afterlife at the expense of this one certainly didn't help his development. Gibbon is also quite rational in pointing out just why Christianity was more appealing than the old pagan religions. Julian the Apostate clearly realized a lot of what Gibbon points out, given how he tried to emphasize a united pagan belief that involved itself in social relief, etc. This isn't to say that Gibbon is pro-Christian, far from it, but he wasn't some snarky r/atheism teenager-or Huffington Post writer-blind to nuance, either.

    (There's also the fact that when things collapsed, it'd be two major Christian forces-Byzantium protecting the moribund Europe from encroachments and monasteries storing away classical knowledge-that would preserve what was left of Western civilization through the dark centuries ahead. Where I take issue with Gibbon is that he doesn't give Byzantium its due, from how far I got into the later volumes: had Constantinople not stayed upright through the centuries, there's no way Europe would have been able to recover before the caliphate came a'knocking, no matter how many Charles Martel's sprung up. Anyway, I suppose you could say that Christianity helped exacerbate the fall, but it also mitigated the results.)

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  48. These people should stop their nonsense. Blacks actually like to be with other blacks, it is that simple. Maybe they would like better neighborhoods, but they would still prefer those neighborhoods to be black. They also like black schools, black teachers, black lawyers and doctors and black government and community leaders. Writers for the Atlantic could save time and ink and just ask.

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    Blacks actually like to be with other blacks, it is that simple.
     
    Yes, but to play the victim, blacks need a white audience to browbeat and victimize.
    , @MBlanc46
    Absolutely. Blacks also want to segregate within the race by class, just as whites do.
    , @Anonymous
    Common sense. Blacks like black neighborhoods, even with all their problems (which they may not even see as problems.)

    “Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.”
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  49. Dr. X says:
    @syonredux

    I’ve been saying this for decades, so I doubt if it will ever get through, but it’s obvious that poor inner city blacks are the American real estate market’s biggest hot potato. So, there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists.
     
    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the "one Black family per block" policy would be highly beneficial.....For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality....

    This very scenario terrifies me — to quote Jefferson — “like a fire-bell in the night.”

    I live in an affordable, middle-class, lily-white (98.6 per cent) town. Other than DUI and an occasional domestic, crime is non-existent. There is no graffiti here, and no drugs sold or used on the street. My neighbors do not lock their doors (although, being an untrusting type, I do). In the city, twenty miles away as the crow flies, is the black section where there are shootings and stabbings and robberies on a nightly basis. The possibility of those people being encouraged by the government to move out to my town — especially as I get older — ensures that the local gun shop gets a fair amount of my coin…

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    That's gotta be Milwaukee and, say, Hartland. Gotta be.
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  50. Hibernian says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    A 30 mile commute in the DC area is not uncommon given the cost of close in housing.

    Sure, same thing in Chicago, but you trade off the 30 mile commute for suburban grass and trees, not recently reclaimed inner city.

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    You can have semi-suburban grass and trees remarkably close to Baltimore Penn Station.
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  51. The Z Blog says: • Website

    Olga is yet another expert on Baltimore, who has never spent a night in the city. The way it works is they call the city and are directed to someone who is basically a poverty tour guide. Their job is to provide suitable sob stories for the fresh scrubbed reporterette. Poverty porn is the on thing we do well here in Charm City.

    Notice that young Olga is an “award winning science writer” with no math or science.

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    Notice that young Olga is an “award winning science writer” with no math or science.
     
    All the better to slavishly parrot whatever twaddle she is fed from purported scientists.

    Ms. Khazan looks somewhat like Jodie Foster.
    , @ThirdWorldSteveReader

    Notice that young Olga is an “award winning science writer” with no math or science.
     
    A sure sign of the decay; honors are given to people who obviously never did anything to deserve them. Remember Obama's Peace Nobel prize?
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    I'm surprised our host has never namechecked James LaFond, who blogs from the Baltimore front lines and is an interesting if depressing read.

    https://www.jameslafond.com/?c=2
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  52. Ed says:

    Another thing is the girl in the story blames herself for her health. The author even acknowledges that she and others she interviewed blamed themselves for their poor choices. Yet she blames racism from the early 20th century, segregation etc.

    There is something really wrong with white liberals when it comes to blacks. They don’t want to grant them any agency even when the blacks themselves say, “No, it is my fault I’m where I am at.”

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  53. Whiskey says: • Website
    @istevefan
    OT - More Sailer bait from the NYT. This time it's a book review entitled, How Christians Destroyed the Ancient World.

    Old news. Gibbon also blamed Christians . Reality it was drastic fertility loss plus plagues.

    Not enough Romans to go around.

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  54. @Dmitry
    She has SJW glasses for Twitter.

    Jewish name and matched for Google, but she has little discussion of Israel. So it seems sure she is not Israeli (which can be guessed also probably from the gender politics interest).


    https://twitter.com/olgakhazan/status/978982721803481088

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    She's from Leningrad, but also without any Russian identity anymore.

    I like America, but something scary how America takes so rapidly so many people from their home countries, and they can become so quickly globalized cosmopolitans without connection, or hardly able to speak, even to their first language.

    Journalist for The Atlantic like Julia Ioffe (but without the role of anti-Russian propaganda).

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/07/learning-forgetting-and-remembering-your-first-language/374906/

    I like America, but something scary how America takes so rapidly so many people from their home countries, and they can become so quickly globalized cosmopolitans without connection, or hardly able to speak, even to their first language.

    On behalf of all Americans, let me say that we are the Borg. We will add your biological, technological, and linguistic distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.

    That being said, I’ve been thinking of switching over to Anglish. Latin, Greek, and French words are way overrated.

    http://anglish.wikia.com/wiki/Board_of_Firststuffs

    In Blendlore, the Board of Firststuffs, otherwise called the Board of Ormotes, is a layout of the blendlorish firststuffs, byset into: uncleftish tally, bernstonebit fettle, and blendlorish hallmarks.

    The Board of Firststuffs was first made by the Russian Blendloreman, Dmitri Mendeleev, in the mid-nineteenth century. Mendeleev’s finding led to an outbreaking in the field of blendlore, and was outstanding in the later unriddling of the Uncleftish Beholding.

    Cowflesh is a far kewler word than beef.

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    On the other hand, Uncleftish Beholding sounds much less cool than Atomic Theory.
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  55. @George
    "make Alabama and Mississippi independent Black nation-states. "

    The Republic of New Afrika (RNA) was founded in 1968 and is a Black separatist idea popularized within Black nationalist and Black supremacist groups in the United States.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_New_Afrika

    In an alternate timeline where the Confederacy succeeded, slavery probably still would have ended by the 1890’s, and I can see the Confederate leaders perhaps setting aside Florida for the blacks. Florida was the least populous of the Southern states until air conditioning became widespread in the 20th century. And out of all of the states, Florida has the climate most similar to sub-Saharan Africa.

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  56. Thomm says:
    @Mr. Rational

    a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial
     
    Not to Whites.  Access to White people is not a human right.

    Not to Whites. Access to White people is not a human right.

    Correct, but I would prefer if we take it one step further.

    Part of the reason that the better 80% of whites exhibits such excellence is that the white race diverts all of its genetic waste matter into the bottom 20%. This bottom 20% effectively becomes a defective subrace that acts as a carrier for the removal of waste matter.

    The men of this race become White Nationalists. The women become fat bluehaired feminists.

    The members of this defective subrace (even if borne of proper whites) should also be exiled out of white society when they reach adulthood. Then the removal of waste matter as nature intended is even more efficient.

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    Part of the reason that the better 80% of whites exhibits such excellence is that the white race diverts all of its genetic waste matter into the bottom 20%. This bottom 20% effectively becomes a defective subrace that acts as a carrier for the removal of waste matter.
     
    Do please go on. This notion of yours that the top 80% are better than the bottom 20% is absolutely fascinating.
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  57. Anon[362] • Disclaimer says:

    Olga Khazan is smart (Ashkenazi) and a really good writer, and in other pieces she has edged toward crimethink when the evidence has led her there. She called out the neuromyth of “learning styles” as BS a couple of months ago. Learning styles is a popular way among educators to sidetrack IQ and keep dumb kids in the same classes as smart kids. I think she is open to the truth if she’s convinced of it. However, learning styles has recently be called out by the Guardian, Stephen Pinker, and an open letter signed by a bunch of scientists, so it’s an easy target. She’s also questioned whether females are as cut out for management as men in one piece.

    One good thing about the article is the list of the growing-body-of-evidence™ scientific and medical explanations purporting to show that the stress of being black causes you to be dumb, short telomeres and all that. Guys, have you ever heard a critical race theorist actually try to explain how brutal racism or Jim Crow is the current cause of black problems (while Manzanar and Ghenghis Khan’s and Julius Caesar’s brutality is not screwing up whites and Asians)? The proximate cause is never mentioned; it’s just voodoo magic, bad cooties in the ether infecting them from the past, or Lysenkoism or something.

    The whole stress explanation is gold. It’s scientific and its testable. You can test the telemeres of poor white and Asian people and compare them to blacks. There are all kinds of ways of challenging these explanations. It’s a disprovable hypothesis, and it’s fundable, unlike intelligence research. This is how the “the brutal effects of racism” bullshit ultimately dies as an explanation for black underachievement.

    The following La Griffe piece is interesting: He shows that Baltimore is uniquely screwed up among American cities, with only the stupidest blacks and whites remaining:

    http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/city.htm

    He starts out with an apparent counterexample to his Fundamental Law of Sociology, and then solves the mystery.

    The one-year reporting and huge length of the piece in the Atlantic suggest that this is a book in the making. Khazan obsessively reports out stories and reads scientific research, unlike many net journalists. Maybe more posts here by Steve offering other explanations to what she is seeing will catch her attention and get her doing more research.

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    It’s scientific and its testable.
     
    Will truth and empirical results win out in the end?

    Politics is so attuned to denying reality that I sometimes wonder.
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  58. Thomm says:

    Contrary to the WN narrative, the number of famous white men who have married black women is about the same, proportionally, to the rate at which famous black men marry white women.

    Famous white men who have married black women :

    Robert DeNiro
    George Lucas
    Roger Ebert
    David Bowie
    Wolfgang Puck
    Bill Burr
    Dirk Nowitzki

    By contrast, one can scarcely find more than seven famous black men who married white women.

    The criteria :

    *The marriage has to have started after 1970.
    *The black person has to be 50% or more black (i.e. no Tiger Woods, etc.).
    *Middle Easterners don’t count as white (several famous black men have married ME women). Kim Kardashian is not white.

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    By contrast, one can scarcely find more than seven famous black men who married white women.
     
    Your sentence is missing the phrase "have not". I'm sure that's just an oversight.
    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    Boris Becker.
    , @Anon
    For Asian examples you have the schools woman Rhee and the Reddit woman.
    , @bomag
    Insofar as whiteness is a maintenance of a suite of recessive genes, both arrangements are a net loss.
    , @Brutusale
    Tin Duncan, Russell Wilson, Terrence Howard, Taye Diggs, Sidney Poitier, Seal, Richard Pryor, Quincy Jones, Michael Jordan, Lamar Odom (to a Kardashian, but a bunch of these "white" wives are Jewish, so I'm counting it), Kanye West (see previous comment), James Earl Jones, Harold Perrineau, Donald Faison, Charles Barkley, Cuba Gooding, Bryant Gumbal, etc....

    As Howard Stern famously said, how else does a black man know he's made it?
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    Half the blacks in the NFL, MLB and NBA are married to white women. If I cared to waste anymore time, I'm sure i could find at least 50 successful black actors married to white women, and another 25 married to half white women.

    Do you do any actual observing of reality in between bouts of smashing your forehead against the keyboard?
    , @Forbes
    You must be trolling.

    Black men marry white women at about 10X the rate that white men marry black women.

    There aren't sufficient white pro athletes in the world to equalize that relationship given the number of black male pro athletes that marry white women. I doubt the numbers for other "famous" white men varies much from one-tenth the black rate of intermarriage.
    , @AnotherDad

    Contrary to the WN narrative, the number of famous white men who have married black women is about the same, proportionally, to the rate at which famous black men marry white women.
     
    Thomm, I've seen enough of your posts to know mathematical thinking really isn't your strong point.

    1) This is the West, so there are *way* way more accomplished/famous white men than black men. They are both a much larger percentage of the population, and way more accomplished. That of all those you come up with this pathetic list of <10 should have been a huge indicator to you that your claim was wrong.

    2) Fewer black men actually "marry". Their default is, uh, engaging in sexual congress, often impregnating women, then leaving. That non-marriage skews things in your direction. But doesn't say anything about underlying attraction/desire and only a little about progeny.

    3) Black men are really only significantly accomplished/famous in "entertainment"--sports, music, acting. If you just make a list of black men you consider famous and then start counting those who are married and who they are married to, you'll disabuse yourself of this utter nonsense.

    Famous/successful black guys married to white women is utterly common. Famous/successful white guys marrying black women is very, very rare.


    Trivia--one data point--the one famous black man I actually know, or more accurately "knew"--Neil Tyson--is definitely married to a white woman (who was in my batch in grad school). (She should have overlapped a couple years of undergrad with Steve at Rice.)
    , @IBC

    Kim Kardashian is not white.
     
    At this point, her whole family probably identifies as trans(racial): but since the US Census Bureau and the general American public has historically considered Armenians to be white, and the other side of her family is of mostly English, but also of Scottish, Irish, Dutch, and German ancestry; Occam's razor suggests that the Kardashians are just white people who buy tan-in-a-can by the barrel and who are careful to use the "darken" effects button before tweeting out their selfies...

    http://ethnicelebs.com/kim-kardashian

    And why exclude "Middle Easterners" from your metrics?

    But regardless, as someone with ancient Aryan roots yourself, and an ardent student of white nationalism to boot, I would have presumed that you already knew that Armenians are technically not even Middle Easterners but "Caucasians"--sprung forth from the purest of racial stock; as gleaming and white as the snows of Mt. Aragats...

    But getting back to your initial assertion: Yes! If I were famous I would definitely marry Lupita Nyong'o and help you make your case.

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  59. anon[277] • Disclaimer says:

    Kiarra still felt conflicted about losing her identity as an overweight woman

    So much for her weight loss goals. She is shockingly unsuited for success. A plus size clothing line? Nursing professor?

    Maybe a bit too on the nose. She is on the gentrification strategic subject list. Or not. Baltimore just isn’t worth that much effort, waterfront or no.

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  60. @Dmitry
    She has SJW glasses for Twitter.

    Jewish name and matched for Google, but she has little discussion of Israel. So it seems sure she is not Israeli (which can be guessed also probably from the gender politics interest).


    https://twitter.com/olgakhazan/status/978982721803481088

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    She's from Leningrad, but also without any Russian identity anymore.

    I like America, but something scary how America takes so rapidly so many people from their home countries, and they can become so quickly globalized cosmopolitans without connection, or hardly able to speak, even to their first language.

    Journalist for The Atlantic like Julia Ioffe (but without the role of anti-Russian propaganda).

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/07/learning-forgetting-and-remembering-your-first-language/374906/

    I’ll bet she knows a lot more Russian than “20-30 words”, if she was raised in a Russian-speaking household. In fact the experience of living in Russia for her first four years is irrelevant; she’d be functional in Russian just from hearing it at home.

    What’s for sure, though, is that at home she didn’t learn much of the terminology of Russian trolleybuses or bureaucracy, which she needed negotiating St Petersburg on her own as an adult.

    My life history is similar to hers, and I’m also pretty weak on any subject that didn’t come up inside my parents’ home. I went “back” for a visit once and people like railroad ticket booth clerks thought I was retarded or something, from my stupid questions and strange terminology. On the other hand, I’m on top of the name of everything in the kitchen, and the rest of the home, and it took my American wife to teach me how to talk to babies in English.

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  61. Anonymous[221] • Disclaimer says:

    Birth Rates Dropped Most in Counties Where Home Values Grew Most

    https://www.zillow.com/research/birth-rates-home-values-20165/

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    This has been my argument for the main factor of the birth rate decline as well. Most people can't afford family formation so they end up either having 0, or maybe 1 or 2 children if they're really lucky. Peter Hitchens has in a roundabout way talked about this as well. by pointing out that in the UK only the very rich and very poor can really afford it.

    All of this is hugely dysgenic of course since I would wager that the actual best and brightest who create all of the real breakthrough stuff as well as produce and maintain what makes everything go around probably aren't rich and aren't exactly very poor either.

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  62. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:

    Gentrification is happening all over. Downtown real estate is precious commodity. Why should any one group have a right to valuable property just because of their ethnicity? That’s racism, remember?

    Chinatowns in many cities from Boston to NYC, DC, Philly, Chicago to L.A. are gentrifying in a hurry due to their location close to downtown. The Chinese are fighting it and trying to hang on to them, why I have no idea. Why hang on to bad history? Most Chinatowns are thoroughly decrepit shitholes. It’s about time they get gentrified out of existence.

    Ethnic enclaves are all ghettos and should be moved to the suburb, where the land is much cheaper. It’s time to take back our cities. Ethnoburbs are much easier to avoid, just don’t get off on the wrong exit. L.A. is the blueprint for all future American cities, used to be 80 suburbs in search of a city, now it’s 80 ethnoburbs in search of a country.

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    Why hang on to bad history? Most Chinatowns are thoroughly decrepit shitholes. It’s about time they get gentrified out of existence.
     
    Suburban Chinese food is blighted and boring to avoidance. If you want roast duck noodle soup with wontons you go to Chinatown. Jake.
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  63. Mr. Anon says:
    @The Z Blog
    Olga is yet another expert on Baltimore, who has never spent a night in the city. The way it works is they call the city and are directed to someone who is basically a poverty tour guide. Their job is to provide suitable sob stories for the fresh scrubbed reporterette. Poverty porn is the on thing we do well here in Charm City.

    Notice that young Olga is an "award winning science writer" with no math or science.

    Notice that young Olga is an “award winning science writer” with no math or science.

    All the better to slavishly parrot whatever twaddle she is fed from purported scientists.

    Ms. Khazan looks somewhat like Jodie Foster.

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    Ms. Khazan looks somewhat like Jodie Foster.
     
    Baby fat conceals the underlying reality, for a while. Remember the Prozac Nation girl?
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  64. Mr. Anon says:
    @SaintFrancis
    Russian. Jews. Explain. Things. To. Me.

    It’s a trend. One I’ve already grown tired of.

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  65. Mr. Anon says:

    Being Black in America Can Be Hazardous to Your Health

    Being White in Baltimore Can Be Hazardous to Your Health

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  66. Far from being a relic of the past, America’s racist and segregationist history continues to harm black people in the most intimate of ways—seeping into their lungs, their blood, even their DNA.

    Save this quote. This shows how far progressive writers will twist reality to blame all the problems of black people on white people. She’s claiming that white racism from distant history is literally seeping into black people’s lungs, blood, and DNA to cause their sleep apnea and all health ailments.

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    History harms health. Visiting the sins of the father on the son. Guilt by association. There's no escaping culpability. Apparently time does not heal all old wounds--some fester forever.
    , @Tex

    Save this quote. This shows how far progressive writers will twist reality to blame all the problems of black people on white people. She’s claiming that white racism from distant history is literally seeping into black people’s lungs, blood, and DNA to cause their sleep apnea and all health ailments.
     
    21st century social justice "science" writing in a nutshell.
    , @Macumazahn
    Well... there's actually a grain of truth to this, as Jimmy "The Greek" Snyder explained back in the days before people learned to keep the truth to themselves.

    The black is a better athlete to begin with, because he's been bred to be that way. Because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back. And they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs. And he's bred to be the better athlete because this goes back all the way to the Civil War, when, during the slave trading, the big, the owner, the slave owner would, would, would, would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have uh, uh big, uh big, uh big black kid, see. That's where it all started!
     
    One can only imagine what a modern American Negro might be like if, rather than breeding for size, the slave owners had instead bred his ancestors for intelligence or docility.
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  67. Clyde says:

    Olga Khazan
    With these naive, young, college mis-educated info babes they are writing about themselves, displaying themselves for the normal marriage market. All here hope her SJW liberalism is a cute|passing phase like college lesbianism and that she is about to get on with it. Meaning passing on her good genetics to at least four children plus superior nurture. This is her real IQ test, not writing no direction home drek for the Ta’Genius Atlantic.
    No one born on US soil is ever named Olga, except for her.

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    She's 31, and she recently tweeted that her doctor assured her that Ashkenazi women have the best quality, longest lasting ova. It didn't sound like she's in a hurry, and four kids is unrealistic.
    , @jbwilson24
    " Meaning passing on her good genetics to at least four children plus superior nurture"

    Good lord no, the last thing we need is for Ashkenazi media types to procreate. We are inundated with them already.

    Let her find a nice black boyfriend and spawn some chocolate covered babies; her Rabbi and mother will cry tears of joy at all the diversity.

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  68. Twinkie says:
    @Bugg
    Hospitals, in patient drug programs, medical procedures, subsidized housing, outright welfare, it doesn't end. And worse, it doesn't work.This read like a contest about who cares less about this woman's well-being, her family or herself. And the solutions white liberals offer is more of the same. At what point can you suggest this woman should deal with the hard consequences of her poor choices and stop blaming nebulous undefined racism? And really once again racism is posited as the cause of all this woman's problems. But there's no substantive link here, it's simply put out there as accepted fact. Most of the people in the institutions trying to endlessly help her are probably white.

    Hospitals, in patient drug programs, medical procedures, subsidized housing, outright welfare, it doesn’t end.

    I just came from a board meeting for a multi-hospital medical system.

    One of the doctors at the hospital hosting the meeting was pretty grumpy – turns out a massively obese black woman came in today for a series of procedures, took up about four hours of operating room time and multiple specialists. She was on Medicare, of course. The facility and the specialists (employed by the hospital) will receive a grand total Medicare reimbursement of… wait for it… $100 (the surgeons were from elsewhere and will receive a separate reimbursement).

    Next time you debate the soaring healthcare costs in the U.S., remember this – with just about any responsible population, medical costs can be controlled under just about any reasonable system – private, public, single-payer, cash-only, whatever. But NOT when you have a slice of the population that is irresponsible and consumes a massive amount of escalating costs.

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    The facility and the specialists (employed by the hospital) will receive a grand total Medicare reimbursement of… wait for it… $100
     
    That makes no sense. You can run a hospital that way for about a week, then it's "sale! everything must go".

    I would think Medicare reimburses everything (lots of $$$$) but the patient only pays $100.

    Please clarify.
    , @Brutusale
    Now imagine a hospital where this is going on all day, every day. That's where my girlfriend works. Luckily, because the place is the urban hospital of last resort, the public money and grants keep flowing. It's a good thing, because the cost of the healthcare demands of minorities starts high and ends high.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3621787/
    , @bomag
    We had some cases around here where they were calling the ambulance for transportation...
    , @Forbes
    Presumably, it's Medicaid, not Medicare (for senior citizens)--but the point of gov't reimbursement remains.

    And while the gov't reimbursement rate is what it is--that means private insurance is making up for the perceived shortfall. And yet, the low stated reimbursement rate doesn't appear to affect the 6-figure salaries of anyone--nor the half-million plus most surgeons earn.

    We'll know it's a crisis when physicians and hospital workers start comparing their pay to the same countries that the single-payer/universal healthcare advocates compare to the US.
    , @Seneca44
    I think you mean Medicaid--Medicare is for over 65 and some disabled people.

    Most states Medicaid reimbursements are terrible and I would not doubt the $100 figure given here.
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  69. Clyde says:
    @Bill P
    Nah, the poor whites have nothing to take, or only enough to take something without having them pay for blacks. The whole point of blaming people is to justify dispossessing them. That's why this black redistribution drive is a non-starter.

    In fact, there's an entire class of white people who thrive off black dysfunctionality, and they don't live in West Virginia or Idaho. Killing this industry would take more political clout than wannabe gentrifiers can muster.

    You'd have to resort to Nazi ideology to justify population transfers of blacks to the hinterlands. That may happen at some point, but the progressives aren't ready to go there quite yet.

    In fact, there’s an entire class of white people who thrive off black dysfunctionality, and they don’t live in West Virginia or Idaho. Killing this industry would take more political clout than wannabe gentrifiers can muster.

    The criminal justice industry, all the way from parole officers, prison psychologists, university extension classes in prison, prosecutors, defense lawyers and their staff and on and on. The list is endless.
    Don’t forget the companies that sell prisons weightlifting equipment so they can bulk up and terrorize when released.

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  70. Mishra says:
    @Flip
    Like Oakland and Brooklyn, a gentrified Baltimore would have tremendous value given its stellar location.

    It’s not just its location. Baltimore is full of spectacular old architecture and still has a tremendous amount of high-quality housing stock.

    Given that large swathes of its ghettos are being razed, and most of its infrastructure remains intact, Baltimore is indeed prime for the picking. The only thing in the way is the people, and programs are already in place to relocate them to the surrounding county.

    If Hillary were president the process would be much further along. But it’s happening anyway, and no one’s going to stop it.

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  71. Mishra says:
    @JerseyJeffersonian
    I wouldn't count on that. As has been seen from time to time, social media enabled flash mobs are a real thing, and are not dependent upon a the site to be filled with resident youfs. In fact, the flash mob most often assembles far from where its participants live. And one rotten household can drag down a neighborhood to such a degree that it discourages others from living there, thereby opening the neighborhood to rapid and catastrophic degradation. Sad but true.

    You are very right. It takes only one wildly dysfunctional household–along with their extended family, friends, suppliers, and so on–to wreck an entire neighborhood.

    The people nearest the nightmare will move first, and who do you think will take their place? Then: rapid metastasis.

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  72. Mishra says:
    @TheBoom
    Given that white people are the cause of all blacks' problems, wouldn't isolating blacks from whites be the solution? Shouldn't we be using the Haiti model by helping blacks live on an island of blackness away from white privilege and microagressions?

    But they don’t really care about helping blacks or black neighborhoods. They just want to appear to care about those things, even and especially to themselves.

    What they care about is wrecking “bad” whites and their neighborhoods. And about this they are remarkably straightforward.

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    When you think slowly and deliberately about the typical upper-middle class progressive narrative in the US, the first thing that smacks you in the face is the sheer narcissism of it all. Their worldview is limited to their own limited bubble-a bubble that, unlike in most points in history, isn't limited by feelings of tribe, nationality, or (to an extent) religious creed. But if you aren't in that bubble, you only exist as an object to these people. Whether you are a Good Object and need help to be protected from the Bad Objects depends on the variables I've mentioned. But that doesn't change the fact that you are an Object. They don't actually care about helping black people or other minority groups, they care about showing off how progressive they are. It's actually quite insulting: yeah, sure, better to be fetishized than hated like the BadWhites, but they still don't really think of you as a human being. It fully encapsulates their world-view, which is increasingly neo-feudal.

    (Remember Ron Unz's story about the Hispanic immigrant parents protesting in 1996 *against* dual lingual education because they knew full well that would condemn their children to a life of menial serfdom, like theirs? Other than the Ramos types who have a nakedly material interest in the scheme and the La Raza type nuts, guess who were the pro-dual language supporters? Hint: they didn't speak Spanish. What they want and what the people they champion actually want aren't always neatly aligned.)

    As for this specific topic, the progressive narrative on how black inner city children are struggling with literacy because they are not surrounded by white children gets even more ridiculous when you realize that most African countries have higher literacy rates than inner city Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, etc. (And typically, illiterate peasants there still are multi-lingual thanks to colonial history and tribal politics.) Not to mention that the sheer social dysfunction and crime rates found in American ghettoes would be unheard of in much of Africa, despite Africa being objectively far poorer and having far worse problems to deal with.

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  73. Clyde says:
    @anon
    Gentrification is happening all over. Downtown real estate is precious commodity. Why should any one group have a right to valuable property just because of their ethnicity? That's racism, remember?

    Chinatowns in many cities from Boston to NYC, DC, Philly, Chicago to L.A. are gentrifying in a hurry due to their location close to downtown. The Chinese are fighting it and trying to hang on to them, why I have no idea. Why hang on to bad history? Most Chinatowns are thoroughly decrepit shitholes. It's about time they get gentrified out of existence.

    Ethnic enclaves are all ghettos and should be moved to the suburb, where the land is much cheaper. It's time to take back our cities. Ethnoburbs are much easier to avoid, just don't get off on the wrong exit. L.A. is the blueprint for all future American cities, used to be 80 suburbs in search of a city, now it's 80 ethnoburbs in search of a country.

    Why hang on to bad history? Most Chinatowns are thoroughly decrepit shitholes. It’s about time they get gentrified out of existence.

    Suburban Chinese food is blighted and boring to avoidance. If you want roast duck noodle soup with wontons you go to Chinatown. Jake.

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    If you want roast duck noodle soup with wontons you go to Chinatown. Jake.
     
    Just make sure it’s not too authentic.

    Corner cutting in the old country:

    All we can do is accept it. In our current society, everybody tries to swindle everybody else. There’s nothing we can do about it.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrv78nG9R04

    Supposedly, blockchain ledgers are going to track all supply sources.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNH7BIzqWNI
    , @anon
    Chinatown restaurants are mostly tourist traps. Some of the worst food I've had were in Chinatowns. Most restaurants are so hole in the wall the hygiene is also not up to snuff. In CA entire cities are of one ethnicity, like the San Gabrielle Valley (626 area code) and Monterrey Park for the Chinese, East L.A. for Mexicans, or Daly City for Filipinos. I would surmise the restaurants in these ethnoburbs are much more authentic since they are mostly devoid of tourists.
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  74. Mishra says:
    @Hibernian
    Sure, same thing in Chicago, but you trade off the 30 mile commute for suburban grass and trees, not recently reclaimed inner city.

    You can have semi-suburban grass and trees remarkably close to Baltimore Penn Station.

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  76. Mishra says:
    @Thomm
    Contrary to the WN narrative, the number of famous white men who have married black women is about the same, proportionally, to the rate at which famous black men marry white women.

    Famous white men who have married black women :

    Robert DeNiro
    George Lucas
    Roger Ebert
    David Bowie
    Wolfgang Puck
    Bill Burr
    Dirk Nowitzki

    By contrast, one can scarcely find more than seven famous black men who married white women.

    The criteria :

    *The marriage has to have started after 1970.
    *The black person has to be 50% or more black (i.e. no Tiger Woods, etc.).
    *Middle Easterners don't count as white (several famous black men have married ME women). Kim Kardashian is not white.

    By contrast, one can scarcely find more than seven famous black men who married white women.

    Your sentence is missing the phrase “have not“. I’m sure that’s just an oversight.

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    List seven black men of roughly comparable fame that have married white women, adhering to the conditions I specified.
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  77. Dmitry says:
    @International Jew
    A khazan is a standard role/job in a synagogue; the khazan sings some of the prayers. The other, and better-known, term for this job is cantor.

    Nothing to do with the Khazar people of the Caucasus.

    If you like to follow Israeli politics? It is the name of the most insane and surreal Israeli politician – Oren Khazan.

    Khazan is like their Zhirinovsky – except about ten times more funny and insane. Scrolling through the kind of recent headlines he gets more and more surreal experience the more you headlines you read, realizing he is an parliamentarian of the ruling Likud party:

    https://cursorinfo.co.il/tag/oren-hazan/

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    He's got a bit of Rob Ford about him too.

    https://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/MK-Oren-Hazans-top-10-most-outrageous-moments-501427

    , @IHTG
    That Khazan has a different root than Olga's.

    Kazan - historical Tatar city in Russia.

    Hazan - the Hebrew word for cantor.
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  78. “there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists”

    Here’s the thing. More US whites live in the suburbs than in the city. Its been this way since about the ’50′s, when “White Flight” began in earnest. Coincidentally, whites at the time were fleeing the cities because of…blacks.

    Since no one ever asks the question, guess I’ll have to: Why don’t these urban hipster whites just, you know, move to the suburbs? They can still visit the city whenever they want to for clubs or cultural events. For the most part, the suburbs have better public schools and lower violent crime. Safety and education for the kids is kind of what its all about for white parents, so why not just bite the bullet and join their compadres by moving to the suburbs?

    Perhaps its mainly a NY thing? Outside of NY, urban hipsters generally aren’t writing screed after screed about the evil dangers of living in the suburbs. If anything, outside of NY, most of the other major cities movers and shapers of public opinion generally tend to reside in the suburbs, not the cities.

    Take the NY factor out of the equation and going apoplectic over the “evil” menace which is the suburbs really isn’t a thing among hipster SWPL’s since they tend to reside (or will as they age and start families) in suburbs themselves.

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    Why don’t these urban hipster whites just, you know, move to the suburbs?

    Don't they? I suppose it depends how you define "suburb". SWPL types have been living in Hoboken, NJ and Jersey City since the 1990s. The towns up and down the Hudson river are increasingly SWPLized. On the East Coast there is no longer any real difference between "suburb" and "urban". There is still a rural v. urban divide but the suburban populations (places like Westport, CT, Wellesley, MA or Haddonfield, NJ) tend to be socially liberal and generally vote Democratic.
    , @Anonymous
    Were whites fleeing cities in the 1950s and early 60s because of blacks? It was more likely because of Sputnik.
    , @CJ
    According to Joel Kotkin, most of their contemporaries are doing just that -- moving to suburbs and exurbs.

    The Screwed Millennial Generation Gets Smart
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  79. El Dato says:
    @bomag

    It isn’t going to work. The social welfare cost of blacks is enormous, and exurban whites just don’t have the resources to provide for them.
     
    Modern logistics, infrastructure, and the wealth of Western countries has the central gov't dishing out checks to the hinterland to maintain one and all "in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed."

    The question is how many can be supported until the money runs out?

    The question is how many can be supported until the money runs out?

    The money will never run out. Just Quantitatively Ease. After a good Printer Bowel Movement, economic Disney World can continue. I’m sure there will be container for support program in there.

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  80. Moses says:
    @Dr. X
    This very scenario terrifies me -- to quote Jefferson -- "like a fire-bell in the night."

    I live in an affordable, middle-class, lily-white (98.6 per cent) town. Other than DUI and an occasional domestic, crime is non-existent. There is no graffiti here, and no drugs sold or used on the street. My neighbors do not lock their doors (although, being an untrusting type, I do). In the city, twenty miles away as the crow flies, is the black section where there are shootings and stabbings and robberies on a nightly basis. The possibility of those people being encouraged by the government to move out to my town -- especially as I get older -- ensures that the local gun shop gets a fair amount of my coin...

    That’s gotta be Milwaukee and, say, Hartland. Gotta be.

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    That's a great guess, but wrong. You do have the region correct, though -- I'm in the Great Lakes, practically spitting distance from one of them. The pattern of de facto segregation with beautiful, tranquil white suburbs and dysfunctional black cities is the norm in every single one of the Great Lakes states and much of the Midwest... and I'm entirely comfortable with it. The last thing I want is "diversity."
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  81. JimB says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    These people should stop their nonsense. Blacks actually like to be with other blacks, it is that simple. Maybe they would like better neighborhoods, but they would still prefer those neighborhoods to be black. They also like black schools, black teachers, black lawyers and doctors and black government and community leaders. Writers for the Atlantic could save time and ink and just ask.

    Blacks actually like to be with other blacks, it is that simple.

    Yes, but to play the victim, blacks need a white audience to browbeat and victimize.

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    Jim, foolish me...Victimhood, of course.
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  82. El Dato says:
    @Twinkie

    Hospitals, in patient drug programs, medical procedures, subsidized housing, outright welfare, it doesn’t end.
     
    I just came from a board meeting for a multi-hospital medical system.

    One of the doctors at the hospital hosting the meeting was pretty grumpy - turns out a massively obese black woman came in today for a series of procedures, took up about four hours of operating room time and multiple specialists. She was on Medicare, of course. The facility and the specialists (employed by the hospital) will receive a grand total Medicare reimbursement of... wait for it... $100 (the surgeons were from elsewhere and will receive a separate reimbursement).

    Next time you debate the soaring healthcare costs in the U.S., remember this - with just about any responsible population, medical costs can be controlled under just about any reasonable system - private, public, single-payer, cash-only, whatever. But NOT when you have a slice of the population that is irresponsible and consumes a massive amount of escalating costs.

    The facility and the specialists (employed by the hospital) will receive a grand total Medicare reimbursement of… wait for it… $100

    That makes no sense. You can run a hospital that way for about a week, then it’s “sale! everything must go”.

    I would think Medicare reimburses everything (lots of $$$$) but the patient only pays $100.

    Please clarify.

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    The best way for a hospital administrator to stop the red ink is to close the emergency room. That’s the portal of entry for most indigent patients like Precious.
    , @JimB
    The best way for a hospital administrator to stop the red ink is to close the emergency room. That’s the portal of entry for most indigent patients like Precious.
    , @Anon
    No, Medicare reimbursements are pathetic.
    A Dr told me it’s about 10 percent of the cost. The fact that so many are on Medicare and Medicaid is the reason the cost of medical care is so high. The non Medicare Medicaid patients are charged enough to keep the whole thing going.

    Look at it this way. There is a 6 unit apartment house. It costs 6,000 a month to pay mortgage. Property tax utilities regular maintainence and the major maintenance saving account.

    But the government places people in 3 apartments and pays their rent. But the government only pays $20o a month rent for each of those apartments.

    So the landlord has to raise the rent of the 3 other apartment to $1,800 to get
    $5,400 to keep the place going

    Then think of the ERs in black neighborhoods dealing with the gun knife and beatings wounds, child abuse druggie drunk problems and the expenses caused by Black behavior

    A lot of those patients aren’t covered by Medicare Medicaid . Most states have a reimbursement program for victim of crime medical costs but it is a cumbersome cumbersome process

    Plus, Medicare Medicaid is very very slow to pay like 2 years.

    Then there is the clerical and sometimes legal cost of pursuing the Billings.
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  83. bartok says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Notice that young Olga is an “award winning science writer” with no math or science.
     
    All the better to slavishly parrot whatever twaddle she is fed from purported scientists.

    Ms. Khazan looks somewhat like Jodie Foster.

    Ms. Khazan looks somewhat like Jodie Foster.

    Baby fat conceals the underlying reality, for a while. Remember the Prozac Nation girl?

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  84. Thomm says:
    @Mishra

    By contrast, one can scarcely find more than seven famous black men who married white women.
     
    Your sentence is missing the phrase "have not". I'm sure that's just an oversight.

    List seven black men of roughly comparable fame that have married white women, adhering to the conditions I specified.

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    Easily that many in the pro sports world.

    Maybe if you define fame in a narrow enough sense you can cook up your result.

    Last stats I saw on this had BM/WF at ten times the rate of the obverse.
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  85. eah says:

    Emerson Collective Acquires Majority Stake in The Atlantic

    The organization, based in Palo Alto, California, invests in both nonprofit and entrepreneurial efforts to bring about immigration and education reform, and is focused on a host of other issues as well…In a statement, Powell Jobs noted that Ralph Waldo Emerson, a co-founder of The Atlantic, inspired the name and the mission of her organization. She praised The Atlantic for the breadth and scope of its purpose: to “bring about equality for all people;…

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  86. nebulafox says:
    @Mishra
    But they don't really care about helping blacks or black neighborhoods. They just want to appear to care about those things, even and especially to themselves.

    What they care about is wrecking "bad" whites and their neighborhoods. And about this they are remarkably straightforward.

    When you think slowly and deliberately about the typical upper-middle class progressive narrative in the US, the first thing that smacks you in the face is the sheer narcissism of it all. Their worldview is limited to their own limited bubble-a bubble that, unlike in most points in history, isn’t limited by feelings of tribe, nationality, or (to an extent) religious creed. But if you aren’t in that bubble, you only exist as an object to these people. Whether you are a Good Object and need help to be protected from the Bad Objects depends on the variables I’ve mentioned. But that doesn’t change the fact that you are an Object. They don’t actually care about helping black people or other minority groups, they care about showing off how progressive they are. It’s actually quite insulting: yeah, sure, better to be fetishized than hated like the BadWhites, but they still don’t really think of you as a human being. It fully encapsulates their world-view, which is increasingly neo-feudal.

    (Remember Ron Unz’s story about the Hispanic immigrant parents protesting in 1996 *against* dual lingual education because they knew full well that would condemn their children to a life of menial serfdom, like theirs? Other than the Ramos types who have a nakedly material interest in the scheme and the La Raza type nuts, guess who were the pro-dual language supporters? Hint: they didn’t speak Spanish. What they want and what the people they champion actually want aren’t always neatly aligned.)

    As for this specific topic, the progressive narrative on how black inner city children are struggling with literacy because they are not surrounded by white children gets even more ridiculous when you realize that most African countries have higher literacy rates than inner city Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans, etc. (And typically, illiterate peasants there still are multi-lingual thanks to colonial history and tribal politics.) Not to mention that the sheer social dysfunction and crime rates found in American ghettoes would be unheard of in much of Africa, despite Africa being objectively far poorer and having far worse problems to deal with.

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  87. @Bugg
    Hospitals, in patient drug programs, medical procedures, subsidized housing, outright welfare, it doesn't end. And worse, it doesn't work.This read like a contest about who cares less about this woman's well-being, her family or herself. And the solutions white liberals offer is more of the same. At what point can you suggest this woman should deal with the hard consequences of her poor choices and stop blaming nebulous undefined racism? And really once again racism is posited as the cause of all this woman's problems. But there's no substantive link here, it's simply put out there as accepted fact. Most of the people in the institutions trying to endlessly help her are probably white.

    How does black humor work on this one?

    Most of the people in the institutions trying to endlessly help her are probably white.

    By stating that this very fact you put down so clearly is just that: Proof of racism. because: What else could be the reason, that all those professional helpers are – – white?!

    Q. e. d.

    (sigh – an eternal circle – a perpetuum mobile – – – a miracle…)

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  88. Anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde
    Olga Khazan
    With these naive, young, college mis-educated info babes they are writing about themselves, displaying themselves for the normal marriage market. All here hope her SJW liberalism is a cute|passing phase like college lesbianism and that she is about to get on with it. Meaning passing on her good genetics to at least four children plus superior nurture. This is her real IQ test, not writing no direction home drek for the Ta'Genius Atlantic.
    No one born on US soil is ever named Olga, except for her.

    She’s 31, and she recently tweeted that her doctor assured her that Ashkenazi women have the best quality, longest lasting ova. It didn’t sound like she’s in a hurry, and four kids is unrealistic.

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    Why is four kids unrealistic?
    , @Forbes
    Why would anyone Tweet, with personal specificity, their doctor's assurances about anything...
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  89. @Thomm
    Contrary to the WN narrative, the number of famous white men who have married black women is about the same, proportionally, to the rate at which famous black men marry white women.

    Famous white men who have married black women :

    Robert DeNiro
    George Lucas
    Roger Ebert
    David Bowie
    Wolfgang Puck
    Bill Burr
    Dirk Nowitzki

    By contrast, one can scarcely find more than seven famous black men who married white women.

    The criteria :

    *The marriage has to have started after 1970.
    *The black person has to be 50% or more black (i.e. no Tiger Woods, etc.).
    *Middle Easterners don't count as white (several famous black men have married ME women). Kim Kardashian is not white.

    Boris Becker.

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    Who showed his brilliance by going broke after earning tens of millions of dollars.

    Boom Boom doesn't do long-term planning very well.
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  90. Anon[322] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm
    Contrary to the WN narrative, the number of famous white men who have married black women is about the same, proportionally, to the rate at which famous black men marry white women.

    Famous white men who have married black women :

    Robert DeNiro
    George Lucas
    Roger Ebert
    David Bowie
    Wolfgang Puck
    Bill Burr
    Dirk Nowitzki

    By contrast, one can scarcely find more than seven famous black men who married white women.

    The criteria :

    *The marriage has to have started after 1970.
    *The black person has to be 50% or more black (i.e. no Tiger Woods, etc.).
    *Middle Easterners don't count as white (several famous black men have married ME women). Kim Kardashian is not white.

    For Asian examples you have the schools woman Rhee and the Reddit woman.

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  91. @Clyde
    Olga Khazan
    With these naive, young, college mis-educated info babes they are writing about themselves, displaying themselves for the normal marriage market. All here hope her SJW liberalism is a cute|passing phase like college lesbianism and that she is about to get on with it. Meaning passing on her good genetics to at least four children plus superior nurture. This is her real IQ test, not writing no direction home drek for the Ta'Genius Atlantic.
    No one born on US soil is ever named Olga, except for her.

    ” Meaning passing on her good genetics to at least four children plus superior nurture”

    Good lord no, the last thing we need is for Ashkenazi media types to procreate. We are inundated with them already.

    Let her find a nice black boyfriend and spawn some chocolate covered babies; her Rabbi and mother will cry tears of joy at all the diversity.

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  92. @Bill P
    Nah, the poor whites have nothing to take, or only enough to take something without having them pay for blacks. The whole point of blaming people is to justify dispossessing them. That's why this black redistribution drive is a non-starter.

    In fact, there's an entire class of white people who thrive off black dysfunctionality, and they don't live in West Virginia or Idaho. Killing this industry would take more political clout than wannabe gentrifiers can muster.

    You'd have to resort to Nazi ideology to justify population transfers of blacks to the hinterlands. That may happen at some point, but the progressives aren't ready to go there quite yet.

    You’d have to resort to Nazi ideology to justify population transfers of blacks to the hinterlands.

    More like Tsarist/Stalinist methods, Bill.
    Once the reality of being mass-exiled to Appalachi-siberia and Michi-khazakhstan dawns on the special ones, there’ll be some rare and exquisite wailing and gnashing.

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  93. the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists.

    And this is a problem why? Rural white Americans tend to be less intelligent and have the same problems living according to rules and a moral code as blacks do. Hence the need for organized religion. There is a reason why higher IQ whites flee to urban areas year after year. I grew up in a rural area. Of the top 20 kids in my high school class, none of them stayed home after graduation. We have all moved to bigger or smaller cities and towns. Low IQ blacks are probably more comfortable living with low IQ whites, and vice-versa. Seems like a good plan to ship the blacks out.

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  94. @Clyde

    Why hang on to bad history? Most Chinatowns are thoroughly decrepit shitholes. It’s about time they get gentrified out of existence.
     
    Suburban Chinese food is blighted and boring to avoidance. If you want roast duck noodle soup with wontons you go to Chinatown. Jake.

    If you want roast duck noodle soup with wontons you go to Chinatown. Jake.

    Just make sure it’s not too authentic.

    Corner cutting in the old country:

    All we can do is accept it. In our current society, everybody tries to swindle everybody else. There’s nothing we can do about it.

    Supposedly, blockchain ledgers are going to track all supply sources.

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    But authentic local Kenyan cuisine uses electric power transformer oil for cooking and deep frying.

    https://www.thedailymeal.com/thieves-kenya-steal-electrical-transformer-oil-cooking/122814
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  95. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists"

    Here's the thing. More US whites live in the suburbs than in the city. Its been this way since about the '50's, when "White Flight" began in earnest. Coincidentally, whites at the time were fleeing the cities because of...blacks.

    Since no one ever asks the question, guess I'll have to: Why don't these urban hipster whites just, you know, move to the suburbs? They can still visit the city whenever they want to for clubs or cultural events. For the most part, the suburbs have better public schools and lower violent crime. Safety and education for the kids is kind of what its all about for white parents, so why not just bite the bullet and join their compadres by moving to the suburbs?

    Perhaps its mainly a NY thing? Outside of NY, urban hipsters generally aren't writing screed after screed about the evil dangers of living in the suburbs. If anything, outside of NY, most of the other major cities movers and shapers of public opinion generally tend to reside in the suburbs, not the cities.

    Take the NY factor out of the equation and going apoplectic over the "evil" menace which is the suburbs really isn't a thing among hipster SWPL's since they tend to reside (or will as they age and start families) in suburbs themselves.

    Why don’t these urban hipster whites just, you know, move to the suburbs?

    Don’t they? I suppose it depends how you define “suburb”. SWPL types have been living in Hoboken, NJ and Jersey City since the 1990s. The towns up and down the Hudson river are increasingly SWPLized. On the East Coast there is no longer any real difference between “suburb” and “urban”. There is still a rural v. urban divide but the suburban populations (places like Westport, CT, Wellesley, MA or Haddonfield, NJ) tend to be socially liberal and generally vote Democratic.

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  96. Security says:
    @Thirdtwin
    From where I sit in metro Atlanta, on the outer edge of suburbia, it appears that black people here have not been driven out of West End to Alpharetta. They have come from the suburbs and downtowns of other cities. Maybe Cincinnati or Indianapolis gentrifiers are having success in whitening inner cities, but in Atlanta, once you go black, you never go back.

    Maybe Cincinnati or Indianapolis gentrifiers are having success in whitening inner cities, but in Atlanta, once you go black, you never go back.

    On the contrary, if you’re in Atlanta, ya’ll better BACK IT UP!!!:

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    Ah, downtown Atlanta. I remember walking those streets and wondering . . . drunk? crackhead? mentally retarded? insane? You could never really get to the bottom of it, and I suppose you didn't want to.
    , @Clyde
    Epic tasing and comedy. Saw it last year.
    , @Autochthon
    The behaviour of the spawn, emulating the parents and approved and encouraged by them, is all the explanation ever needed for the Negro antisocial horror show. It's not a damned thing to do with racism.
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  97. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ibound1
    The food choices made in the inner city - sugary, processed, fat, fast food - cannot be overcome by moving anyone anywhere. They are the same choices Theodore Dalrymple notes are made by the English underclass with the exact same results: obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure. Cutting out food stamps and payments and replacing them with canteens where the poor are given a healthy meal for a minimal payment (as is done in India) might help. But it will never be done.

    What makes children children is that they don’t have judgment. It isn’t as much that they lack IQ as compared to adults: plenty of ten to twelve year old kids are smarter than the left side of the bell curve of the adult population. And it isn’t so much their smaller size. It’s that they lack the ability to make sound decisions.

    Underclass blacks, and to a lesser extent lumpenprole whites, make poor decisions, consistently. That’s why antebellum and Reconstruction Southern aristocrats and South African Boers regarded them as children. Children in big, powerful bodies sometimes, but children.

    Blacks’ health would benefit enormously by getting rid of HFCS and restricting soft drinks and sugary packaged ready to eat foods, but since the restriction can’t be applied specifically to blacks , whites would bitch that their rights were being interfered with.

    Also, when applied specifically to blacks, a certain level of gun control would make sense: not disarming them entirely, because they need to be able to defend themselves, but restricting them to weapons that are not too concealable, don’t have too much firepower easily available, and are loud enough they know damn well they won’t fire them without everyone knowing would make sense. But us white gun nuts can’t support this kind of legislation, and we won’t, because only the NRA’s hardass and absolutist opposition to all gun laws has kept most any kind of firearm from being banned not only for blacks and prolewhites but anyone who isn’t wealthy and connected enough to put up with things like New York City’s Nazi pistol permit process. (Actually, I don’t think the Nazis made it as hard for people to get guns as New York does.)

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    I don’t think the Nazis made it as hard for people to get guns as New York does.

    The Nazis made it much easier in general for Germans to acquire guns, and encouraged gun ownership. Restrictions only applied to Jews and people deemed politically subversive, less than 5% of the population.
    , @Whiskey
    The NRA wisely knows gun control is only for middle and working class Whites so POC can victimize them with impunity. See the UK.
    , @Jack Highlands
    Psychologically, what makes women women is that they don’t have reproductive judgment. It isn’t as much that they lack IQ as compared to men: plenty of thots are smarter than the left side of the male bell curve. And it isn’t so much their 50 cents upper body strength. It’s that they lack the ability to make sound mating decisions.

    Women left to their own devices make poor mate choices, consistently. That’s why all societies before the modern West regarded them as reproductive chattel.

    Women, and civilization, would benefit enormously by getting rid of sexual freedom and restricting their sexuality to one husband chosen by their parents, especially by their father, but since the restriction can’t be applied specifically to women who implicitly prefer single motherhood , marriageable women would bitch that their rights were being interfered with.

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  98. Anon[371] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    She's 31, and she recently tweeted that her doctor assured her that Ashkenazi women have the best quality, longest lasting ova. It didn't sound like she's in a hurry, and four kids is unrealistic.

    Why is four kids unrealistic?

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  99. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
    @Dmitry
    If you like to follow Israeli politics? It is the name of the most insane and surreal Israeli politician - Oren Khazan.

    Khazan is like their Zhirinovsky - except about ten times more funny and insane. Scrolling through the kind of recent headlines he gets more and more surreal experience the more you headlines you read, realizing he is an parliamentarian of the ruling Likud party:
    https://cursorinfo.co.il/tag/oren-hazan/

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  100. Anonymous[195] • Disclaimer says:

    Please note this well:

    The Economist magazine and the EU Commission are doing their level best to repopulate Europe with people like that.

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    But notice that Europeans are not offering to take American blacks. They may be suicidal but they aren’t that suicidal.
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  101. eah says:
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    I wonder how Jerusalem (I was just visiting) fits into this graph. I saw some apartment prices posted and they were outrageous. And, kids were everywhere.

    People who want and make babies know how to make it work. Too many millenials neither want nor are even in a position to make babies, i.e. married.
    , @Macumazahn
    But aren't most of those cities with high home value growth located in lefty blue coastal states?
    Lefty blue states, the very places where one finds a high concentration of crazy "progressive" womyn who've decided not to have children, you know, to save the planet?
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  102. IHTG says:
    @Dmitry
    If you like to follow Israeli politics? It is the name of the most insane and surreal Israeli politician - Oren Khazan.

    Khazan is like their Zhirinovsky - except about ten times more funny and insane. Scrolling through the kind of recent headlines he gets more and more surreal experience the more you headlines you read, realizing he is an parliamentarian of the ruling Likud party:
    https://cursorinfo.co.il/tag/oren-hazan/

    That Khazan has a different root than Olga’s.

    Kazan – historical Tatar city in Russia.

    Hazan – the Hebrew word for cantor.

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    The city - Казан (Kazan)

    The Israeli politician/ Jew surname- Хазан (Khazan)

    The surname and the city name are not easy to confuse - because Х and К are different letters* in Russian.

    Wikipedia has written a whole article if you are interested in learning more.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kha_(Cyrillic)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka_(Cyrillic)

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  103. I would like to see a series of cost-benefit analysis comparisons. The benefits would be to society as a whole.

    1. Spending $$$ to help blacks versus spending $$$ to repress blacks.

    2. Spending $$$ to help blacks versus spending $$$ to help whites.

    3. Spending $$$ to repress blacks versus spending $$$ to help whites.

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  104. Tiny Duck says:
    @Half Canadian
    I tried reading the article, and it was just a series of problems that this lady had created for herself.
    Did segregation make her obese? Of course not.
    Did it make her an alcoholic? I could concede some responsibility, if I'm generous, but only a sliver.
    Did it give her diabetes and sleep apnea? See obesity.

    Same with crime. It is reductionist in the extreme to look at the problems in black America today and say "Because: Racism".

    Ok wound you trade places with her?

    That’s what I thought

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    Tiny Duck,

    You're right. I would not trade places with her. I'm not dysfunction with a lifestyle and business model that trades on fronting perpetual victimization to anyone who has the money to buy me off.

    The turnoff is her consumptive and useless way of life. She is a social parasite. It takes gall to be a social parasite and retain any sense of self-respect.

    She reminds me of a six-year-old girl who fakes falling down with an "owie" ... so that she gets a free hug and a candy bar. Adults are supposed to outgrow that stuff, not make it a way of life.
    , @Jim Christian
    Why should we trade places? Except for his ugly, race-virtue signaling whore of a wife, I'd like to trade financial states with Bill Gates. He would say I made my own relatively humble financial state of my own, why should HE? Will Smith, will he trade financial places with me? Both would say I made my own bed.

    Wesley Snipes on the other hand, I ain't trading with HIM.

    Tiny Dick, your brain is smaller than your pecker.
    , @Tex

    Ok wound you trade places with her?

    That’s what I thought
     
    Who'd want to trade places with someone who did such a good job of screwing up her life?

    Here's the thing, I'm familiar with most of her issues. Screwed up at college, difficulty with jobs, self-inflicted health problems, etc. I did what most people do, I matured a little, went back to doing what I needed to do, and earned my degree, worked to keep a steady job, and I'm still walking around. That's life.
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  105. AndrewR says:
    @bomag

    It isn’t going to work. The social welfare cost of blacks is enormous, and exurban whites just don’t have the resources to provide for them.
     
    Modern logistics, infrastructure, and the wealth of Western countries has the central gov't dishing out checks to the hinterland to maintain one and all "in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed."

    The question is how many can be supported until the money runs out?

    The wealth of Denmark and Norway has the US government dishing out money to people all around the US? What?

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  106. AndrewR says:
    @Mr. Rational

    a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial
     
    Not to Whites.  Access to White people is not a human right.

    Access to slave labor imported from Africa isn’t either, but that didn’t stop early Americans, so now we are stuck with 40 million blacks whose ancestors were probably here before yours.

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    Which also means that I shouldn't have to pay for other whites' stupidity.

    Anyway, the whole discussion of "rights" is quickly losing its meaning. Enlightenment ideals can only be implemented after securing your territory and establishing a homogeneous society. Ask Native Americans about how the Magna Carta or the Constitution protected their rights as settlers moved into their lands.

    Blacks have no right to live next to me. I don't care a whit whether their ancestors were brought over on a slave ship or arrived last year on an airplane. Who cares. Are they my people? No. Then I don't want to live with them. I want to be among my own.

    There's such a beauty and simplicity to ethnic nationalism. Are you my people? No or Yes. If no, you can't emigrate to our country (or live in our neighborhood). If yes, then you are welcome. No hatred. I don't hate people outside of my tribe; indeed, I wish you well - just not here. This is our land, for our people.

    I don't know the future of the United States (probably some kind of Brazil), but I do know that it will always be fighting against the natural logic of ethnic nationalism. People are happiest living among their own and being governed by their own. Preventing that from happening will be a constant battle for this society, a bit like holding something over your head. You can do it for awhile, but at some point, you have to put it down.
    , @Mr. Rational

    Access to slave labor imported from Africa isn’t either, but that didn’t stop early Americans, so now we are stuck with 40 million blacks
     
    It didn't stop the Arabs either.  They were selling Bantu slaves in Mecca as late as the 1960's.  Yet a mere 50-odd years later, the Arabs don't have anything like a dindu problem.

    I submit that we are no more "stuck" than they are, we just won't do what needs to be done... yet.
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  107. black sea says:
    @Security

    Maybe Cincinnati or Indianapolis gentrifiers are having success in whitening inner cities, but in Atlanta, once you go black, you never go back.
     
    On the contrary, if you’re in Atlanta, ya'll better BACK IT UP!!!:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eqxaP4t9gEc

    Ah, downtown Atlanta. I remember walking those streets and wondering . . . drunk? crackhead? mentally retarded? insane? You could never really get to the bottom of it, and I suppose you didn’t want to.

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  108. @Anonymous
    Please note this well:

    The Economist magazine and the EU Commission are doing their level best to repopulate Europe with people like that.

    But notice that Europeans are not offering to take American blacks. They may be suicidal but they aren’t that suicidal.

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  109. @Anonymous
    What makes children children is that they don't have judgment. It isn't as much that they lack IQ as compared to adults: plenty of ten to twelve year old kids are smarter than the left side of the bell curve of the adult population. And it isn't so much their smaller size. It's that they lack the ability to make sound decisions.

    Underclass blacks, and to a lesser extent lumpenprole whites, make poor decisions, consistently. That's why antebellum and Reconstruction Southern aristocrats and South African Boers regarded them as children. Children in big, powerful bodies sometimes, but children.

    Blacks' health would benefit enormously by getting rid of HFCS and restricting soft drinks and sugary packaged ready to eat foods, but since the restriction can't be applied specifically to blacks , whites would bitch that their rights were being interfered with.

    Also, when applied specifically to blacks, a certain level of gun control would make sense: not disarming them entirely, because they need to be able to defend themselves, but restricting them to weapons that are not too concealable, don't have too much firepower easily available, and are loud enough they know damn well they won't fire them without everyone knowing would make sense. But us white gun nuts can't support this kind of legislation, and we won't, because only the NRA's hardass and absolutist opposition to all gun laws has kept most any kind of firearm from being banned not only for blacks and prolewhites but anyone who isn't wealthy and connected enough to put up with things like New York City's Nazi pistol permit process. (Actually, I don't think the Nazis made it as hard for people to get guns as New York does.)

    I don’t think the Nazis made it as hard for people to get guns as New York does.

    The Nazis made it much easier in general for Germans to acquire guns, and encouraged gun ownership. Restrictions only applied to Jews and people deemed politically subversive, less than 5% of the population.

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  110. The funny thing about this article is that you could write almost the same article about an overweight underclass white woman in Manchester, NH. You just couldn’t blame her problems on race. We have created the first human civilization where overabundance is a fact of life, and a significant segment of the population simply doesn’t have the IQ and/or self-restraint to cope. We have created a vast class of non-productive parasites who do nothing but consume, copulate and consume some more. The problem is both political parties have constituents who benefit from these people – the Dems through the vast number of social worker and health-care jobs that have been created to manage this population and the Republicans via the numerous corporate entities that profit off them – whether fast-food producers, payday loan sharks or slumlords (like Sean Hannity).

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    We've abolished Scarcity. The modern poor can indulge in the vices of the Biblical rich.
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  111. TheJester says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Ok wound you trade places with her?

    That's what I thought

    Tiny Duck,

    You’re right. I would not trade places with her. I’m not dysfunction with a lifestyle and business model that trades on fronting perpetual victimization to anyone who has the money to buy me off.

    The turnoff is her consumptive and useless way of life. She is a social parasite. It takes gall to be a social parasite and retain any sense of self-respect.

    She reminds me of a six-year-old girl who fakes falling down with an “owie” … so that she gets a free hug and a candy bar. Adults are supposed to outgrow that stuff, not make it a way of life.

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  112. @Tiny Duck
    Ok wound you trade places with her?

    That's what I thought

    Why should we trade places? Except for his ugly, race-virtue signaling whore of a wife, I’d like to trade financial states with Bill Gates. He would say I made my own relatively humble financial state of my own, why should HE? Will Smith, will he trade financial places with me? Both would say I made my own bed.

    Wesley Snipes on the other hand, I ain’t trading with HIM.

    Tiny Dick, your brain is smaller than your pecker.

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  113. @Hibernian
    Do you mean 30 miles from DC? I don't think many gentrifiers want a 60 mile daily round trip commute.

    Some Baltimore residents commute to work in DC daily — but it’s a relatively low number. ’30 miles’ is actually more like 60 miles (from Alexandria VA–to Johns Hopkins U campus). To drive it every day would get old very fast, as would slugging it out on the train, it’s a big time sink either way.

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  114. Gazza90 says:
    @Anon7
    In essence, what you have is an agent that causes Urban Blight. Why not make a positive out of a negative? You just keep moving them around. Wherever they leave, property values go up, and wherever they go, property values go down.

    If you can’t make a buck with that, you’re just not paying attention.

    Maybe colleges could add Tragic Dirt studies to their offerings.

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  115. @Mishra
    She looks pretty much like every white woman I've ever known, even though her name is 'different'.

    What I want to know is: where are her eyeglasses?

    https://www.unzcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Screenshot-2017-09-23-15.48.07.png

    She looks pretty much like every white woman I’ve ever known

    No, she’s not fat enough-yet…..

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    I've said this elsewhere, but all that a woman needs to do (today) to be above average in looks is to be not fat. That observation, alone, tells you the miserable state of young women in America.
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  116. Arclight says:

    Ms. Kazan and her colleagues at the Atlantic specialize in writing articles alleging just existing as a black person is an awful experience in America, but then always go on to profile people who have been given umpteen chances and blown them all, and the people who are most responsible for making them miserable are other black people.

    Basically they do a great job of making the case that we have a substantial share of the urban population that simply will not live up to the most basic expectations of society and all the interventions through the social welfare system in the world do little good.

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  117. TTSSYF says:
    @donut
    "One Black family per block" . Do you have any experience with Negroes other than avoiding them ?

    Yes, And my newspaper was stolen every morning.

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  118. Clyde says:
    @Security

    Maybe Cincinnati or Indianapolis gentrifiers are having success in whitening inner cities, but in Atlanta, once you go black, you never go back.
     
    On the contrary, if you’re in Atlanta, ya'll better BACK IT UP!!!:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eqxaP4t9gEc

    Epic tasing and comedy. Saw it last year.

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  119. @Peter Akuleyev
    The funny thing about this article is that you could write almost the same article about an overweight underclass white woman in Manchester, NH. You just couldn't blame her problems on race. We have created the first human civilization where overabundance is a fact of life, and a significant segment of the population simply doesn't have the IQ and/or self-restraint to cope. We have created a vast class of non-productive parasites who do nothing but consume, copulate and consume some more. The problem is both political parties have constituents who benefit from these people - the Dems through the vast number of social worker and health-care jobs that have been created to manage this population and the Republicans via the numerous corporate entities that profit off them - whether fast-food producers, payday loan sharks or slumlords (like Sean Hannity).

    We’ve abolished Scarcity. The modern poor can indulge in the vices of the Biblical rich.

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  120. George says:

    White lady, and chemical engineer/climate change specialist, calls cops on blacks BBQing in Oakland. Cops don’t think they were a problem, but because charcoal causes global warming or smog or fires or something chase the blacks away. Blacks think they were grandfathered into their South’n customs in 1940 and cannot be held to white fixations like CO2 from a BBQ melting glaciers. I think it is nice of the (likely unmarried and childless )white lady to think about the future of black kids and call the police on them for climate changing.

    ‘BBQ Becky’: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

    https://heavy.com/news/2018/05/jennifer-schulte-bbq-becky/

    Measuring The Carbon Footprint Of A Charcoal Grill (I bet the white lady listens to NPR)

    https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106273845

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    Turns out crazy white engineer lady was not crazy. They were probably using charcoal in a non-charcoal designated area. https://www.lakemerritt.org/park-info.html

    I will say the icons on the map are confusing. I thought the non charcoal BBQ icon looked like a charcoal BBQ. I apologize to BBQ Becky.
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  121. Anonymous[150] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan
    OT - More Sailer bait from the NYT. This time it's a book review entitled, How Christians Destroyed the Ancient World.

    Don’t have time to read, but if it talks about Christian vandalism without mentioning Muslim vandalism then we know it’s propaganda rather than history.

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  122. bomag says:
    @Anon
    Olga Khazan is smart (Ashkenazi) and a really good writer, and in other pieces she has edged toward crimethink when the evidence has led her there. She called out the neuromyth of "learning styles" as BS a couple of months ago. Learning styles is a popular way among educators to sidetrack IQ and keep dumb kids in the same classes as smart kids. I think she is open to the truth if she's convinced of it. However, learning styles has recently be called out by the Guardian, Stephen Pinker, and an open letter signed by a bunch of scientists, so it's an easy target. She's also questioned whether females are as cut out for management as men in one piece.

    One good thing about the article is the list of the growing-body-of-evidence™ scientific and medical explanations purporting to show that the stress of being black causes you to be dumb, short telomeres and all that. Guys, have you ever heard a critical race theorist actually try to explain how brutal racism or Jim Crow is the current cause of black problems (while Manzanar and Ghenghis Khan's and Julius Caesar's brutality is not screwing up whites and Asians)? The proximate cause is never mentioned; it's just voodoo magic, bad cooties in the ether infecting them from the past, or Lysenkoism or something.

    The whole stress explanation is gold. It's scientific and its testable. You can test the telemeres of poor white and Asian people and compare them to blacks. There are all kinds of ways of challenging these explanations. It's a disprovable hypothesis, and it's fundable, unlike intelligence research. This is how the "the brutal effects of racism" bullshit ultimately dies as an explanation for black underachievement.

    The following La Griffe piece is interesting: He shows that Baltimore is uniquely screwed up among American cities, with only the stupidest blacks and whites remaining:

    http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/city.htm

    He starts out with an apparent counterexample to his Fundamental Law of Sociology, and then solves the mystery.

    The one-year reporting and huge length of the piece in the Atlantic suggest that this is a book in the making. Khazan obsessively reports out stories and reads scientific research, unlike many net journalists. Maybe more posts here by Steve offering other explanations to what she is seeing will catch her attention and get her doing more research.

    It’s scientific and its testable.

    Will truth and empirical results win out in the end?

    Politics is so attuned to denying reality that I sometimes wonder.

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    Still at the stage of wonder? Politics seems to win out, eventually, every time. Facts inconvenient to The Narrative will be ignored.
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  123. Saxon says:
    @Anonymous
    Birth Rates Dropped Most in Counties Where Home Values Grew Most
    https://www.zillow.com/research/birth-rates-home-values-20165/

    This has been my argument for the main factor of the birth rate decline as well. Most people can’t afford family formation so they end up either having 0, or maybe 1 or 2 children if they’re really lucky. Peter Hitchens has in a roundabout way talked about this as well. by pointing out that in the UK only the very rich and very poor can really afford it.

    All of this is hugely dysgenic of course since I would wager that the actual best and brightest who create all of the real breakthrough stuff as well as produce and maintain what makes everything go around probably aren’t rich and aren’t exactly very poor either.

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  124. Brutusale says:
    @Twinkie

    Hospitals, in patient drug programs, medical procedures, subsidized housing, outright welfare, it doesn’t end.
     
    I just came from a board meeting for a multi-hospital medical system.

    One of the doctors at the hospital hosting the meeting was pretty grumpy - turns out a massively obese black woman came in today for a series of procedures, took up about four hours of operating room time and multiple specialists. She was on Medicare, of course. The facility and the specialists (employed by the hospital) will receive a grand total Medicare reimbursement of... wait for it... $100 (the surgeons were from elsewhere and will receive a separate reimbursement).

    Next time you debate the soaring healthcare costs in the U.S., remember this - with just about any responsible population, medical costs can be controlled under just about any reasonable system - private, public, single-payer, cash-only, whatever. But NOT when you have a slice of the population that is irresponsible and consumes a massive amount of escalating costs.

    Now imagine a hospital where this is going on all day, every day. That’s where my girlfriend works. Luckily, because the place is the urban hospital of last resort, the public money and grants keep flowing. It’s a good thing, because the cost of the healthcare demands of minorities starts high and ends high.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3621787/

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    Interesting conclusion:

    Blacks and Hispanics die of similar causes but cost significantly more than Whites in the last 6 months of life. Although 40 to 60% of these excess differences are associated with geography, that is, living in high-medical-expenditure areas, substantial differences remain, even after adjusting for many patient characteristics in addition to where people live. Strikingly higher rates of use of intensive end-of-life treatments such as ICU and ventilators account for most of these residual differences. Thus, at life's end, minorities often receive more expensive, but not necessarily life-enhancing care. It is unclear how much of this was actively sought, or the extent to which racial and ethnic differences are principally driven by how choices are presented or how they are “heard.” These would be fruitful questions for future research.
     
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  125. bomag says:
    @Thomm
    Contrary to the WN narrative, the number of famous white men who have married black women is about the same, proportionally, to the rate at which famous black men marry white women.

    Famous white men who have married black women :

    Robert DeNiro
    George Lucas
    Roger Ebert
    David Bowie
    Wolfgang Puck
    Bill Burr
    Dirk Nowitzki

    By contrast, one can scarcely find more than seven famous black men who married white women.

    The criteria :

    *The marriage has to have started after 1970.
    *The black person has to be 50% or more black (i.e. no Tiger Woods, etc.).
    *Middle Easterners don't count as white (several famous black men have married ME women). Kim Kardashian is not white.

    Insofar as whiteness is a maintenance of a suite of recessive genes, both arrangements are a net loss.

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  126. Brutusale says:
    @Thomm
    Contrary to the WN narrative, the number of famous white men who have married black women is about the same, proportionally, to the rate at which famous black men marry white women.

    Famous white men who have married black women :

    Robert DeNiro
    George Lucas
    Roger Ebert
    David Bowie
    Wolfgang Puck
    Bill Burr
    Dirk Nowitzki

    By contrast, one can scarcely find more than seven famous black men who married white women.

    The criteria :

    *The marriage has to have started after 1970.
    *The black person has to be 50% or more black (i.e. no Tiger Woods, etc.).
    *Middle Easterners don't count as white (several famous black men have married ME women). Kim Kardashian is not white.

    Tin Duncan, Russell Wilson, Terrence Howard, Taye Diggs, Sidney Poitier, Seal, Richard Pryor, Quincy Jones, Michael Jordan, Lamar Odom (to a Kardashian, but a bunch of these “white” wives are Jewish, so I’m counting it), Kanye West (see previous comment), James Earl Jones, Harold Perrineau, Donald Faison, Charles Barkley, Cuba Gooding, Bryant Gumbal, etc….

    As Howard Stern famously said, how else does a black man know he’s made it?

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    Tin Duncan, Russell Wilson, Terrence Howard, Taye Diggs, Sidney Poitier, Seal, Richard Pryor, Quincy Jones, Michael Jordan, Lamar Odom (to a Kardashian, but a bunch of these “white” wives are Jewish, so I’m counting it), Kanye West (see previous comment), James Earl Jones, Harold Perrineau, Donald Faison, Charles Barkley, Cuba Gooding, Bryant Gumbal, etc….

    You forget the most famous one of all: O.J. Simpson. Married to a white woman until he killed her, anyway.

    Also, the richest black man in America is one Robert F. Smith, founder of Vista Equity Partners and worth a couple of billion. He's married to -- wait for it! -- a white woman, former Playmate Hope Dworaczyk. So the most made-it brotha of them all is married to a white woman.

    Also, the black dude Jordan Peele that did that white-hating movie, and he seems very gay, is married to a white woman.
    , @larry lurker
    Michael Jackson! Although I guess he was already white by his first marriage.
    , @Thomm
    Only the following from your list are as famous as the list of white men I originally listed :

    Sidney Poitier
    Seal
    Richard Pryor
    Quincy Jones
    James Earl Jones
    Cuba Gooding
    Bryant Gumbel
    Charles Barkley
    Michael Jordan (Hispanic, so debatable)

    So this list is about nine, which is about the same length as the list of white men marrying black women (updated to include Boris Becker). Plus, someone like Richard Pryor who married 7 times obviously married both black and white (and divorced both).

    So my point stands. WM-BW and BM-WW are equal in frequency if the man is famous. There is no overwhelming bias of BM-WW relative to the other way around.
    , @Percy Gryce
    Lionel Richie
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  127. @Kurlos
    “except in the case of a few specific ailments, such as nondiabetic kidney disease, scientists have largely failed to identify genetic differences that might explain racial health disparities. The major underlying causes, many scientists now believe, are social and environmental forces that affect African Americans more than most other groups.”



    Does steve have a collection of medical conditions with racial differences that are genetically based?

    http://thescienceexplorer.com/brain-and-body/genetic-ancestry-partially-explains-racial-sleep-differences

    Does steve have a collection of medical conditions with racial differences that are genetically based?

    Greg Cochran writes about some of them in this post from 2015: Born that way

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  128. Anonymous[150] • Disclaimer says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists"

    Here's the thing. More US whites live in the suburbs than in the city. Its been this way since about the '50's, when "White Flight" began in earnest. Coincidentally, whites at the time were fleeing the cities because of...blacks.

    Since no one ever asks the question, guess I'll have to: Why don't these urban hipster whites just, you know, move to the suburbs? They can still visit the city whenever they want to for clubs or cultural events. For the most part, the suburbs have better public schools and lower violent crime. Safety and education for the kids is kind of what its all about for white parents, so why not just bite the bullet and join their compadres by moving to the suburbs?

    Perhaps its mainly a NY thing? Outside of NY, urban hipsters generally aren't writing screed after screed about the evil dangers of living in the suburbs. If anything, outside of NY, most of the other major cities movers and shapers of public opinion generally tend to reside in the suburbs, not the cities.

    Take the NY factor out of the equation and going apoplectic over the "evil" menace which is the suburbs really isn't a thing among hipster SWPL's since they tend to reside (or will as they age and start families) in suburbs themselves.

    Were whites fleeing cities in the 1950s and early 60s because of blacks? It was more likely because of Sputnik.

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    Whites fleeing cities in the '50s and '60s were moving out of cramped housing (apartments), and buying (more spacious) homes with yards for children to play in. The long hot summer of urban riots was 1967--inasmuch as some occurred earlier, e.g. Watts (LA), in 1965.
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  129. bomag says:
    @Thomm
    List seven black men of roughly comparable fame that have married white women, adhering to the conditions I specified.

    Easily that many in the pro sports world.

    Maybe if you define fame in a narrow enough sense you can cook up your result.

    Last stats I saw on this had BM/WF at ten times the rate of the obverse.

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  130. Connecticut is poised now to move the black blight of coastal Bridgeport out to the nice, wooded, surrounding towns. The governor has signed it into law, CT’s own version of Affirmatively Furthering Black Problems into White Towns.

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    Connecticut Blacks are on the march into your nice White towns in Connecticut. Obama tried to do the same thing to baby boomer hypocrite Hillary Clinton in Chappaqua, New York. Hillary Clinton moved to Chappaqua to avoid Blacks, and Obama tried to stuff Blacks into Chappaqua to piss her off. Is Obama that petty and vindictive? Yes. Obama learned the Black underclass housing transfer game from the Pritzker's in Chicago.

    Connecticut Puritans settled Newark, New Jersey.

    Blacks are thick on the ground in Newark.

    Chris Christie was born in Newark. Now Christie lives far away from Newark in a nice White town. Watch the new Leprechaun governor of New Jersey move the Newark Blacks to Chris Christie's nice White town.

    Christie is a fat slob coward baby boomer. I enjoyed going after him at a presidential primary town hall meeting in NH. I would rhetorically rip Christie's substantial guts out in a 4 hour debate on immigration, trade, foreign policy and standing up for White Core American interests.

    All the nonsense ends when the interest rates start to rise.

    Demography and Debt -- Mass Immigration and Monetary Extremism
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  131. @Thomm
    Contrary to the WN narrative, the number of famous white men who have married black women is about the same, proportionally, to the rate at which famous black men marry white women.

    Famous white men who have married black women :

    Robert DeNiro
    George Lucas
    Roger Ebert
    David Bowie
    Wolfgang Puck
    Bill Burr
    Dirk Nowitzki

    By contrast, one can scarcely find more than seven famous black men who married white women.

    The criteria :

    *The marriage has to have started after 1970.
    *The black person has to be 50% or more black (i.e. no Tiger Woods, etc.).
    *Middle Easterners don't count as white (several famous black men have married ME women). Kim Kardashian is not white.

    Half the blacks in the NFL, MLB and NBA are married to white women. If I cared to waste anymore time, I’m sure i could find at least 50 successful black actors married to white women, and another 25 married to half white women.

    Do you do any actual observing of reality in between bouts of smashing your forehead against the keyboard?

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  132. peterike says:
    @Brutusale
    Tin Duncan, Russell Wilson, Terrence Howard, Taye Diggs, Sidney Poitier, Seal, Richard Pryor, Quincy Jones, Michael Jordan, Lamar Odom (to a Kardashian, but a bunch of these "white" wives are Jewish, so I'm counting it), Kanye West (see previous comment), James Earl Jones, Harold Perrineau, Donald Faison, Charles Barkley, Cuba Gooding, Bryant Gumbal, etc....

    As Howard Stern famously said, how else does a black man know he's made it?

    Tin Duncan, Russell Wilson, Terrence Howard, Taye Diggs, Sidney Poitier, Seal, Richard Pryor, Quincy Jones, Michael Jordan, Lamar Odom (to a Kardashian, but a bunch of these “white” wives are Jewish, so I’m counting it), Kanye West (see previous comment), James Earl Jones, Harold Perrineau, Donald Faison, Charles Barkley, Cuba Gooding, Bryant Gumbal, etc….

    You forget the most famous one of all: O.J. Simpson. Married to a white woman until he killed her, anyway.

    Also, the richest black man in America is one Robert F. Smith, founder of Vista Equity Partners and worth a couple of billion. He’s married to — wait for it! — a white woman, former Playmate Hope Dworaczyk. So the most made-it brotha of them all is married to a white woman.

    Also, the black dude Jordan Peele that did that white-hating movie, and he seems very gay, is married to a white woman.

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  133. bomag says:
    @Twinkie

    Hospitals, in patient drug programs, medical procedures, subsidized housing, outright welfare, it doesn’t end.
     
    I just came from a board meeting for a multi-hospital medical system.

    One of the doctors at the hospital hosting the meeting was pretty grumpy - turns out a massively obese black woman came in today for a series of procedures, took up about four hours of operating room time and multiple specialists. She was on Medicare, of course. The facility and the specialists (employed by the hospital) will receive a grand total Medicare reimbursement of... wait for it... $100 (the surgeons were from elsewhere and will receive a separate reimbursement).

    Next time you debate the soaring healthcare costs in the U.S., remember this - with just about any responsible population, medical costs can be controlled under just about any reasonable system - private, public, single-payer, cash-only, whatever. But NOT when you have a slice of the population that is irresponsible and consumes a massive amount of escalating costs.

    We had some cases around here where they were calling the ambulance for transportation…

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  134. Sailer should do some blog posts on Laurene Powell Jobs. Miss Jobs owns a substantial chunk of The Atlantic.

    Olga Khazan is a good looking Jew female writer, but she is a stereotypical rootless nation-wrecker. Sad!

    Hanna Rosin is presumably a Jew, and she wrote an article for The Atlantic that was somewhat evenhanded regarding Black criminality and the Black Section 8 residential transfer scam.

    Hanna Rosin might have a thing for that Moss woman’s massive brow ridge and eagle snout, I can’t say for sure, I am not an expert. Rosin might not be a Jew, too. Rosin is some kind of Feminist, either 5th or 6th wave, hard to tell, really. We’re dialing in the specifics at the moment.

    Who was the editor of the Atlantic when Hanna Rosin wrote her article on Black crime and the Section 8 government housing voucher? Is the current editor of The Atlantic, Goldberg, a real Jew, or is he some extended performance art playing to all the stereotypes about Jews?

    American Murder Mystery: by Hanna Rosin in The Atlantic

    Tweet from 2014:

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  135. @Buzz Mohawk
    Connecticut is poised now to move the black blight of coastal Bridgeport out to the nice, wooded, surrounding towns. The governor has signed it into law, CT's own version of Affirmatively Furthering Black Problems into White Towns.

    Connecticut Blacks are on the march into your nice White towns in Connecticut. Obama tried to do the same thing to baby boomer hypocrite Hillary Clinton in Chappaqua, New York. Hillary Clinton moved to Chappaqua to avoid Blacks, and Obama tried to stuff Blacks into Chappaqua to piss her off. Is Obama that petty and vindictive? Yes. Obama learned the Black underclass housing transfer game from the Pritzker’s in Chicago.

    Connecticut Puritans settled Newark, New Jersey.

    Blacks are thick on the ground in Newark.

    Chris Christie was born in Newark. Now Christie lives far away from Newark in a nice White town. Watch the new Leprechaun governor of New Jersey move the Newark Blacks to Chris Christie’s nice White town.

    Christie is a fat slob coward baby boomer. I enjoyed going after him at a presidential primary town hall meeting in NH. I would rhetorically rip Christie’s substantial guts out in a 4 hour debate on immigration, trade, foreign policy and standing up for White Core American interests.

    All the nonsense ends when the interest rates start to rise.

    Demography and Debt — Mass Immigration and Monetary Extremism

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    So is every American born from 1946 to 1964 guilty?

    Do you want all of us to be overrun, while you enjoy schadenfreude?

    Or would you prefer we all just shoot ourselves?

    Take a look at an election map broken down finely enough and you know the US is purple, even in Connecticut. There are a lot of people here who think as I do. We are not the majority. That is a problem.

    Hey, did you know that Steve lives in The People's Diverse Republic of California and is a baby boomer? Did he ruin your inheritance too?

    Sorry, but focusing on baby boomers as a guilty generation is grossly missing the point.

    Sorry too if I am misinterpreting your perspective. I agree with all the rest of what you say.

    , @Reg Cæsar

    Obama tried to do the same thing to baby boomer hypocrite Hillary Clinton in Chappaqua, New York. Hillary Clinton moved to Chappaqua to avoid Blacks, and Obama tried to stuff Blacks into Chappaqua to piss her off.
     
    Chappaqua is a Democratic city village hamlet, so they have it coming good and hard. No tears for Hillary's neighbors.
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  136. @Brutusale
    Tin Duncan, Russell Wilson, Terrence Howard, Taye Diggs, Sidney Poitier, Seal, Richard Pryor, Quincy Jones, Michael Jordan, Lamar Odom (to a Kardashian, but a bunch of these "white" wives are Jewish, so I'm counting it), Kanye West (see previous comment), James Earl Jones, Harold Perrineau, Donald Faison, Charles Barkley, Cuba Gooding, Bryant Gumbal, etc....

    As Howard Stern famously said, how else does a black man know he's made it?

    Michael Jackson! Although I guess he was already white by his first marriage.

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  137. @Anon
    WaPo did a profile of Mrs. Jobs (the owner of The Atlantic) today:

    The Quest of Laurene Powell Jobs
    Story by David Montgomery

    Laurene Powell made her first foray into philanthropy near the beginning of high school in West Milford. She learned of the work of the Southern Poverty Law Center and dipped into her savings to send a cashier’s check of about $20. She got a form thank-you letter back from civil rights crusader Morris Dees. “They would reliably write to me a couple of times a year,” she says. “I would read them over and over, and they told really beautiful stories. I was always animated by the notion of who gets the opportunity and who doesn’t.” ...

    “She wants people to innovate in their sector — education reform, getting the Dream Act passed. So Emerson has become like an accelerator for causes around social change.”...

    If we actually want to be helpful to the individual and their family, we can’t just focus on education, we have to focus on the whole ecosystem so that they can live much more healthy, productive lives where they are,” she says. “Every single community that we work with in College Track is dealing with some issue on the spectrum of serious, poisonous, toxic environmental issues in their air, water and soil.”
     

    You see white and asian neighborhoods have magic air, but black and latino neighborhoods have tragic air.

    In 2013 Powell Jobs commissioned documentarian Davis Guggenheim (“An Inconvenient Truth,” “He Named Me Malala”) to make a film called “The Dream Is Now” about dreamers hoping to build lives in this country. She wanted it done in a matter of months to have a timely influence on the political debate. It was typical of Emerson Collective’s approach to issues. Alongside the usual tools of polling and policy advocacy, it will create, say, an “immigration innovation incubator” to foster tech solutions, and it will enlist artists and storytellers to appeal to the public on alternative channels.

    Immigration is perhaps the most partisan fight into which she is pushing a stack of her billions of chips, on behalf of those who see the issue the way she does. On the other side is a countervailing apparatus of funders, thinkers and advocates pushing for tighter borders, fewer legal immigrants and more deportations. Since she entered the fray in 2001, her opponents have won nearly every battle in Washington, so she is turning her tactics away from the capital. “We’re looking for ways to activate people around the country, so that they can understand what’s at stake,” she says. “So that they can start building a chorus that Congress can’t ignore.”

    Either way, the dollars will continue to flow toward Powell Jobs’s vision of immigration and education reform. ...

    Recently Powell Jobs invited him to ... the virtual-reality immersion into crossing the border as an immigrant that Emerson had sponsored in an abandoned church.
     

    Another interesting angle is one of Mrs. Jobs' daughter is an equestrian. As is Bill Gates' Daughter, as is Michael Bloomberg's daughter. Bill Gates spend $37 million dollars on a house in Florida for horsies (not far from Trump International Golf Club), Bloomberg and Jobs only spent $15 million. Who do we think works at these horse clubs? ;-)

    Horse frump plutocrat Helen Kriebel bought Newt Gingrich on amnesty for illegal alien invaders before Shelly Adelson bought Gingrich. I could be wrong about the sequence.

    Helen Kriebel enjoys having illegal alien invaders tend to her horses.

    Gingrich has been a mass immigration supporting baby boomer whore for decades.

    Mike Pence is caught up in the amnesty for illegal alien invaders at the behest of Helen Krieble scam.

    Mike Pence is a baby boomer treasonite whore who pushes amnesty for illegal alien invaders.

    Vdare, Patrick Cleburne:

    Life is tough for Helen Krieble, whose Illegal Immigration “Amnesty with a trip home attached” plan (as Tom Tancredo calls it) has now become “the Pence Plan” and is being used to try to split House opposition to the Bush Administration`s effort to dissolve America.

    https://www.vdare.com/posts/help-helen-kriebles-horse-farm-workers-want-to-be-paid-too-much

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  138. anonymous[256] • Disclaimer says:

    Liberal hand-wringing on full display.

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  139. anon[153] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde

    Why hang on to bad history? Most Chinatowns are thoroughly decrepit shitholes. It’s about time they get gentrified out of existence.
     
    Suburban Chinese food is blighted and boring to avoidance. If you want roast duck noodle soup with wontons you go to Chinatown. Jake.

    Chinatown restaurants are mostly tourist traps. Some of the worst food I’ve had were in Chinatowns. Most restaurants are so hole in the wall the hygiene is also not up to snuff. In CA entire cities are of one ethnicity, like the San Gabrielle Valley (626 area code) and Monterrey Park for the Chinese, East L.A. for Mexicans, or Daly City for Filipinos. I would surmise the restaurants in these ethnoburbs are much more authentic since they are mostly devoid of tourists.

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    San Gabrielle Valley (626 area code) is an upgraded Chinatown. Spread out suburban style. Sure, your urban Chinatowns have low grade eateries and tourist traps. You must do your research to know what the good Chinatown restaurants are with non-Americanized Chinese food.
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  140. @bomag

    It is reductionist in the extreme to look at the problems in black America today and say “Because: Racism”.
     
    I have a mechanics shop in which I cram all the tools I can to help solve all the various mechanical problems I encounter.

    SJWs, on the other hand, reduce their "tool" kit until they have one limited class of tool: shouting "racism" and "privilege" and legacy thereof.

    When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

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  141. Stick says:
    @istevefan

    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial…..For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality….
     
    Blacks are 12 percent of the population, but for the most part are highly concentrated in certain areas. So in some places their numbers are quite small to nonexistent. What if you could change that? Suppose you had the power to spread the black population out equally among every state, county, city, town and neighborhood so that every place in the USA was 12 percent black, no more no less.

    I imagine it would make several cities a bit more livable, but would really destroy a lot of places too. My guestimate is that a black population of 5% or more causes a noticeable change in a town or school. And 10 percent or more is enough to cause white flight for those who can afford it. So though it would probably be best for blacks in general to be equally spread out, it would really change much of the nation for the worse. On the other hand it might cause a large junk of the 40 percent of whites who still vote democrat to reassess.

    This is called the ‘Black Shack’ effect. When a unit exceeds 10% of blacks within a unit the blacks self segregate into the Black Shack. This was noticed during Vietnam within combat and combat support units. The remedy was keep blacks in any unit under 10% and preferably <5%. By doing so the blacks identify with the unit instead of their blackness and the unit's efficiency is maintained. At 10% the regression to mean is a powerful undertow.

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    By doing so the blacks identify with the unit instead of their blackness and the unit's efficiency is maintained.
     
    How was efficiency measured? Why would blacks identifying as black have any influence on efficiency?
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  142. @AndrewR
    Access to slave labor imported from Africa isn't either, but that didn't stop early Americans, so now we are stuck with 40 million blacks whose ancestors were probably here before yours.

    Which also means that I shouldn’t have to pay for other whites’ stupidity.

    Anyway, the whole discussion of “rights” is quickly losing its meaning. Enlightenment ideals can only be implemented after securing your territory and establishing a homogeneous society. Ask Native Americans about how the Magna Carta or the Constitution protected their rights as settlers moved into their lands.

    Blacks have no right to live next to me. I don’t care a whit whether their ancestors were brought over on a slave ship or arrived last year on an airplane. Who cares. Are they my people? No. Then I don’t want to live with them. I want to be among my own.

    There’s such a beauty and simplicity to ethnic nationalism. Are you my people? No or Yes. If no, you can’t emigrate to our country (or live in our neighborhood). If yes, then you are welcome. No hatred. I don’t hate people outside of my tribe; indeed, I wish you well – just not here. This is our land, for our people.

    I don’t know the future of the United States (probably some kind of Brazil), but I do know that it will always be fighting against the natural logic of ethnic nationalism. People are happiest living among their own and being governed by their own. Preventing that from happening will be a constant battle for this society, a bit like holding something over your head. You can do it for awhile, but at some point, you have to put it down.

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    "Blacks have no right to live next to me."

    Actually, they do. If your neighbor sells their home to a black family, that is the liberty of your neighbor. Or, if the person across the street chooses to rent their home to non-whites, that is their liberty. Freedom of association, right?

    "I want to be among my own."

    And what about your neighbors? If they are white, and want to live among non-whites, do they not have that freedom?
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  143. @syonredux

    I’ve been saying this for decades, so I doubt if it will ever get through, but it’s obvious that poor inner city blacks are the American real estate market’s biggest hot potato. So, there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists.
     
    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the "one Black family per block" policy would be highly beneficial.....For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality....

    Why do so many white people, such as yourself, have this white knight mentality? Why is it white people’s job to fix blacks?

    Sure, some of our ancestors brought over some Africans to work as slaves. So what? Slavery has been a stable of societies since the dawn of history and before. Are Middle Easterners responsible for Europeans because they used them as slaves? No, of course not.

    We owe nothing to blacks. Nothing.

    They fail at being white because, wait for it, they aren’t white. Why is that so hard to understand. It continually stuns me that commentators on this blog – an HBD blog – are always shocked, shocked to discover that non-whites don’t act and perform like whites. Wow, who would have guessed that.

    We (and I’m just as guilty as anyone) do with black – why is their crime so high. We do it with Hispanics – why can’t their test scores be higher. We do it with Asians – why are they so focused on getting high grades (and gaming tests) but not on really learning the material.

    Because they’re not white! Doesn’t make them better or worse. They are just doing what comes natural to them, just as we do. It’s why people are happier living among their own and governing themselves.

    Screw black-a-block. Let them live among themselves and let whites live with other whites. We’ll all be happier.

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  144. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Boris Becker.

    Who showed his brilliance by going broke after earning tens of millions of dollars.

    Boom Boom doesn’t do long-term planning very well.

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    Yeah, I thought of Becker because I saw this article about him having to sell off his trophies and other tennis mementos because he's so deep in the hole -- over 50 million pounds.
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  145. @Anon7
    In essence, what you have is an agent that causes Urban Blight. Why not make a positive out of a negative? You just keep moving them around. Wherever they leave, property values go up, and wherever they go, property values go down.

    If you can’t make a buck with that, you’re just not paying attention.

    In essence, what you have is an agent that causes Urban Blight. Why not make a positive out of a negative? You just keep moving them around. Wherever they leave, property values go up, and wherever they go, property values go down.

    That’s the definition of White Flight except that the negroes don’t ever leave the areas they’ve destroyed. Their population growth is thus more like a mold or fungus spreading across a Petri dish. Look at Detroit. The only places where they’ve receded at all are where Mexicans have invaded and a couple rehabbed buildings downtown they couldn’t afford.

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  146. res says:
    @Brutusale
    Now imagine a hospital where this is going on all day, every day. That's where my girlfriend works. Luckily, because the place is the urban hospital of last resort, the public money and grants keep flowing. It's a good thing, because the cost of the healthcare demands of minorities starts high and ends high.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3621787/

    Interesting conclusion:

    Blacks and Hispanics die of similar causes but cost significantly more than Whites in the last 6 months of life. Although 40 to 60% of these excess differences are associated with geography, that is, living in high-medical-expenditure areas, substantial differences remain, even after adjusting for many patient characteristics in addition to where people live. Strikingly higher rates of use of intensive end-of-life treatments such as ICU and ventilators account for most of these residual differences. Thus, at life’s end, minorities often receive more expensive, but not necessarily life-enhancing care. It is unclear how much of this was actively sought, or the extent to which racial and ethnic differences are principally driven by how choices are presented or how they are “heard.” These would be fruitful questions for future research.

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    N.B. the quotation marks to exculpate mud people of any agency. They don't misunderstand or make stupid, wasteful decisions. Nope. Communications are heard (by whom?!) in some inexplicably different way when it comes to mud people....

    Also, as always, "Hispanic" is being used incorrectly as a synonym for "mestizo and Amerindian" with their relatively low intelligence – I assure you people like Penelope Cruz, Sofia Vergara, and my wife are not the hispanaphones wasting money to keep goners on ventilators for months and months.
    , @Jonathan Mason

    Thus, at life’s end, minorities often receive more expensive, but not necessarily life-enhancing care. It is unclear how much of this was actively sought, or the extent to which racial and ethnic differences are principally driven by how choices are presented or how they are “heard.”
     
    In my personal experience, black people are much less likely to want to sign DNR orders for their family members and tend to hope for a miracle even when their family member is in a vegetative state. Part of this may be due to religious beliefs, or some kind of guilt.

    Of course the Terry Schiavo parents and some Republican politicians exhibited the same kind of thinking, so it is not just a racial thing, but perhaps more predominant among blacks.
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  147. @eah

    I wonder how Jerusalem (I was just visiting) fits into this graph. I saw some apartment prices posted and they were outrageous. And, kids were everywhere.

    People who want and make babies know how to make it work. Too many millenials neither want nor are even in a position to make babies, i.e. married.

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    I wonder how Jerusalem (I was just visiting) fits into this graph.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfWStKvV4AAKUWX.jpg
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  148. Barnard says:
    @Antlitz Grollheim
    The Inner Harbor is gorgeous.

    Is it relatively safe for tourists to visit?

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    No.
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  149. Thomm says:
    @Brutusale
    Tin Duncan, Russell Wilson, Terrence Howard, Taye Diggs, Sidney Poitier, Seal, Richard Pryor, Quincy Jones, Michael Jordan, Lamar Odom (to a Kardashian, but a bunch of these "white" wives are Jewish, so I'm counting it), Kanye West (see previous comment), James Earl Jones, Harold Perrineau, Donald Faison, Charles Barkley, Cuba Gooding, Bryant Gumbal, etc....

    As Howard Stern famously said, how else does a black man know he's made it?

    Only the following from your list are as famous as the list of white men I originally listed :

    Sidney Poitier
    Seal
    Richard Pryor
    Quincy Jones
    James Earl Jones
    Cuba Gooding
    Bryant Gumbel
    Charles Barkley
    Michael Jordan (Hispanic, so debatable)

    So this list is about nine, which is about the same length as the list of white men marrying black women (updated to include Boris Becker). Plus, someone like Richard Pryor who married 7 times obviously married both black and white (and divorced both).

    So my point stands. WM-BW and BM-WW are equal in frequency if the man is famous. There is no overwhelming bias of BM-WW relative to the other way around.

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    Shame Boris Becker didn't marry one or both the Williams sisters. What a great offspring would do for the tennis world.
    , @Brutusale
    Desi, your ignorance of "popular" Americans comes as no surprise.
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  150. Now that Wakanda has been discovered by the media, black people should be moving there in large numbers.

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  151. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    What makes children children is that they don't have judgment. It isn't as much that they lack IQ as compared to adults: plenty of ten to twelve year old kids are smarter than the left side of the bell curve of the adult population. And it isn't so much their smaller size. It's that they lack the ability to make sound decisions.

    Underclass blacks, and to a lesser extent lumpenprole whites, make poor decisions, consistently. That's why antebellum and Reconstruction Southern aristocrats and South African Boers regarded them as children. Children in big, powerful bodies sometimes, but children.

    Blacks' health would benefit enormously by getting rid of HFCS and restricting soft drinks and sugary packaged ready to eat foods, but since the restriction can't be applied specifically to blacks , whites would bitch that their rights were being interfered with.

    Also, when applied specifically to blacks, a certain level of gun control would make sense: not disarming them entirely, because they need to be able to defend themselves, but restricting them to weapons that are not too concealable, don't have too much firepower easily available, and are loud enough they know damn well they won't fire them without everyone knowing would make sense. But us white gun nuts can't support this kind of legislation, and we won't, because only the NRA's hardass and absolutist opposition to all gun laws has kept most any kind of firearm from being banned not only for blacks and prolewhites but anyone who isn't wealthy and connected enough to put up with things like New York City's Nazi pistol permit process. (Actually, I don't think the Nazis made it as hard for people to get guns as New York does.)

    The NRA wisely knows gun control is only for middle and working class Whites so POC can victimize them with impunity. See the UK.

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  152. JimB says:
    @El Dato

    The facility and the specialists (employed by the hospital) will receive a grand total Medicare reimbursement of… wait for it… $100
     
    That makes no sense. You can run a hospital that way for about a week, then it's "sale! everything must go".

    I would think Medicare reimburses everything (lots of $$$$) but the patient only pays $100.

    Please clarify.

    The best way for a hospital administrator to stop the red ink is to close the emergency room. That’s the portal of entry for most indigent patients like Precious.

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  153. JimB says:
    @El Dato

    The facility and the specialists (employed by the hospital) will receive a grand total Medicare reimbursement of… wait for it… $100
     
    That makes no sense. You can run a hospital that way for about a week, then it's "sale! everything must go".

    I would think Medicare reimburses everything (lots of $$$$) but the patient only pays $100.

    Please clarify.

    The best way for a hospital administrator to stop the red ink is to close the emergency room. That’s the portal of entry for most indigent patients like Precious.

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  154. Dmitry says:
    @IHTG
    That Khazan has a different root than Olga's.

    Kazan - historical Tatar city in Russia.

    Hazan - the Hebrew word for cantor.

    The city – Казан (Kazan)

    The Israeli politician/ Jew surname- Хазан (Khazan)

    The surname and the city name are not easy to confuse – because Х and К are different letters* in Russian.

    Wikipedia has written a whole article if you are interested in learning more.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kha_(Cyrillic)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka_(Cyrillic)

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    The city – Казан (Kazan)

     

    ^ This in the original/Tatar name of the city.

    In the Chuvash language it was called - Хузан

    Eventually a modified into Казань.

    -

    As for the unrelated surname, Khazan.

    In Hebrew - it is חזן.

    So the correct transliteration is Chazan or Khazan. As ח is not the same as ה.

    Also on Wikipedia the difference is explained:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_(letter)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heth

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  155. Dmitry says:
    @Dmitry
    The city - Казан (Kazan)

    The Israeli politician/ Jew surname- Хазан (Khazan)

    The surname and the city name are not easy to confuse - because Х and К are different letters* in Russian.

    Wikipedia has written a whole article if you are interested in learning more.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kha_(Cyrillic)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka_(Cyrillic)

    The city – Казан (Kazan)

    ^ This in the original/Tatar name of the city.

    In the Chuvash language it was called – Хузан

    Eventually a modified into Казань.

    -

    As for the unrelated surname, Khazan.

    In Hebrew – it is חזן.

    So the correct transliteration is Chazan or Khazan. As ח is not the same as ה.

    Also on Wikipedia the difference is explained:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_(letter)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heth

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  156. Dr. X says:
    @Moses
    That's gotta be Milwaukee and, say, Hartland. Gotta be.

    That’s a great guess, but wrong. You do have the region correct, though — I’m in the Great Lakes, practically spitting distance from one of them. The pattern of de facto segregation with beautiful, tranquil white suburbs and dysfunctional black cities is the norm in every single one of the Great Lakes states and much of the Midwest… and I’m entirely comfortable with it. The last thing I want is “diversity.”

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  157. Forbes says:
    @Bugg
    Hospitals, in patient drug programs, medical procedures, subsidized housing, outright welfare, it doesn't end. And worse, it doesn't work.This read like a contest about who cares less about this woman's well-being, her family or herself. And the solutions white liberals offer is more of the same. At what point can you suggest this woman should deal with the hard consequences of her poor choices and stop blaming nebulous undefined racism? And really once again racism is posited as the cause of all this woman's problems. But there's no substantive link here, it's simply put out there as accepted fact. Most of the people in the institutions trying to endlessly help her are probably white.

    Utopian governance: The state will provide for (nearly) every imaginable necessity–you needn’t be responsible for for your own upkeep, maintenance, or overhead. Any risks you take will be backstopped by the gov’t should an adverse outcome result. Gains privatized, losses socialized.

    Life is hard, reality is harsh–you will be compensated.

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  158. @Stan Adams

    I like America, but something scary how America takes so rapidly so many people from their home countries, and they can become so quickly globalized cosmopolitans without connection, or hardly able to speak, even to their first language.
     
    On behalf of all Americans, let me say that we are the Borg. We will add your biological, technological, and linguistic distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.

    That being said, I've been thinking of switching over to Anglish. Latin, Greek, and French words are way overrated.

    http://anglish.wikia.com/wiki/Board_of_Firststuffs

    In Blendlore, the Board of Firststuffs, otherwise called the Board of Ormotes, is a layout of the blendlorish firststuffs, byset into: uncleftish tally, bernstonebit fettle, and blendlorish hallmarks.

    The Board of Firststuffs was first made by the Russian Blendloreman, Dmitri Mendeleev, in the mid-nineteenth century. Mendeleev's finding led to an outbreaking in the field of blendlore, and was outstanding in the later unriddling of the Uncleftish Beholding.
     
    Cowflesh is a far kewler word than beef.

    On the other hand, Uncleftish Beholding sounds much less cool than Atomic Theory.

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  159. Forbes says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Also in The Atlantic, the poz never ends.

    Today’s Masculinity Is Stifling, by Sarah Rich

    https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2018/06/_Masculinity_for_The_Atlantic_2/lead_720_405.jpg?mod=1528491687

    Funny, I find it’s Feminism that’s stifling–always making demands, always expecting their demands to be satisfied by men, always expressing disappointment in men when their demands go unsatisfied, lather, rinse, repeat.

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  160. Forbes says:
    @Dmitry
    Olga Khazan is an Israeli-American I guess? (American with a Russian personal name combined with such a Jewish surname - Хазан).

    We were discussing on the Anatoly Karlin blog earlier this week, her video about why Americans smile so much .

    She has interesting data and ideas, but she cannot explain anything and ends the video weakly.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojbJrdkPhGg

    Apparently, she’s from Leningrad. Perhaps she should ask “Why do Russians smile so little?”

    A topic which she might actually have some insight…

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  161. @Mr. Rational

    a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial
     
    Not to Whites.  Access to White people is not a human right.

    But the thesis is that it would benefit American whites; the blacks benefit from not living in the ghetto, and the whites benefit from not having to deal with the incursions of ghetto thuglets into normal society.

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    But the thesis is....
     
    Irrelevant, because it's false and we know it.  Nothing but overall educational, cultural and physical damage would result, and the only way it would not result in immediate flight to re-segregate is if was lawful and accepted to correct (punish) minority misbehavior immediately and severely enough to keep it under control.  The burden of exercising such control would itself be a huge drain.

    Long story short:  America needs a divorce from its minorities.
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  162. Whatever the issues in Baltimore’s healthcare disparity –

    it is not my fault.

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  163. Forbes says:
    @Thomm
    Contrary to the WN narrative, the number of famous white men who have married black women is about the same, proportionally, to the rate at which famous black men marry white women.

    Famous white men who have married black women :

    Robert DeNiro
    George Lucas
    Roger Ebert
    David Bowie
    Wolfgang Puck
    Bill Burr
    Dirk Nowitzki

    By contrast, one can scarcely find more than seven famous black men who married white women.

    The criteria :

    *The marriage has to have started after 1970.
    *The black person has to be 50% or more black (i.e. no Tiger Woods, etc.).
    *Middle Easterners don't count as white (several famous black men have married ME women). Kim Kardashian is not white.

    You must be trolling.

    Black men marry white women at about 10X the rate that white men marry black women.

    There aren’t sufficient white pro athletes in the world to equalize that relationship given the number of black male pro athletes that marry white women. I doubt the numbers for other “famous” white men varies much from one-tenth the black rate of intermarriage.

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  164. Currahee says:

    “where she would seek help for the most urgent problem in her life: the 200-some excess pounds she carried on her 5-foot-2-inch frame.”

    Ha, ha, okay…okay, stop me if you’ve heard this one before!

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  165. Forbes says:
    @Massimo Heitor


    Far from being a relic of the past, America’s racist and segregationist history continues to harm black people in the most intimate of ways—seeping into their lungs, their blood, even their DNA.

     

    Save this quote. This shows how far progressive writers will twist reality to blame all the problems of black people on white people. She's claiming that white racism from distant history is literally seeping into black people's lungs, blood, and DNA to cause their sleep apnea and all health ailments.

    History harms health. Visiting the sins of the father on the son. Guilt by association. There’s no escaping culpability. Apparently time does not heal all old wounds–some fester forever.

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  166. Forbes says:
    @Anon
    She's 31, and she recently tweeted that her doctor assured her that Ashkenazi women have the best quality, longest lasting ova. It didn't sound like she's in a hurry, and four kids is unrealistic.

    Why would anyone Tweet, with personal specificity, their doctor’s assurances about anything…

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  167. @The Z Blog
    Olga is yet another expert on Baltimore, who has never spent a night in the city. The way it works is they call the city and are directed to someone who is basically a poverty tour guide. Their job is to provide suitable sob stories for the fresh scrubbed reporterette. Poverty porn is the on thing we do well here in Charm City.

    Notice that young Olga is an "award winning science writer" with no math or science.

    Notice that young Olga is an “award winning science writer” with no math or science.

    A sure sign of the decay; honors are given to people who obviously never did anything to deserve them. Remember Obama’s Peace Nobel prize?

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  168. Forbes says:
    @Twinkie

    Hospitals, in patient drug programs, medical procedures, subsidized housing, outright welfare, it doesn’t end.
     
    I just came from a board meeting for a multi-hospital medical system.

    One of the doctors at the hospital hosting the meeting was pretty grumpy - turns out a massively obese black woman came in today for a series of procedures, took up about four hours of operating room time and multiple specialists. She was on Medicare, of course. The facility and the specialists (employed by the hospital) will receive a grand total Medicare reimbursement of... wait for it... $100 (the surgeons were from elsewhere and will receive a separate reimbursement).

    Next time you debate the soaring healthcare costs in the U.S., remember this - with just about any responsible population, medical costs can be controlled under just about any reasonable system - private, public, single-payer, cash-only, whatever. But NOT when you have a slice of the population that is irresponsible and consumes a massive amount of escalating costs.

    Presumably, it’s Medicaid, not Medicare (for senior citizens)–but the point of gov’t reimbursement remains.

    And while the gov’t reimbursement rate is what it is–that means private insurance is making up for the perceived shortfall. And yet, the low stated reimbursement rate doesn’t appear to affect the 6-figure salaries of anyone–nor the half-million plus most surgeons earn.

    We’ll know it’s a crisis when physicians and hospital workers start comparing their pay to the same countries that the single-payer/universal healthcare advocates compare to the US.

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    Talk to any honest medical professional about the differences between what Medicaid/Medicare patients are billed compared to the patients with private insurance. Which is why the insurance industry's default on almost any initial claim is no.
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  169. So, there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists

    Agreed. It’s amazing how these pretty people always find out that the Most Righteous Actions coincide with their own best interests at the moment. How deplorable of you deplorables that can’t be as holy!

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  170. Seneca44 says:
    @Twinkie

    Hospitals, in patient drug programs, medical procedures, subsidized housing, outright welfare, it doesn’t end.
     
    I just came from a board meeting for a multi-hospital medical system.

    One of the doctors at the hospital hosting the meeting was pretty grumpy - turns out a massively obese black woman came in today for a series of procedures, took up about four hours of operating room time and multiple specialists. She was on Medicare, of course. The facility and the specialists (employed by the hospital) will receive a grand total Medicare reimbursement of... wait for it... $100 (the surgeons were from elsewhere and will receive a separate reimbursement).

    Next time you debate the soaring healthcare costs in the U.S., remember this - with just about any responsible population, medical costs can be controlled under just about any reasonable system - private, public, single-payer, cash-only, whatever. But NOT when you have a slice of the population that is irresponsible and consumes a massive amount of escalating costs.

    I think you mean Medicaid–Medicare is for over 65 and some disabled people.

    Most states Medicaid reimbursements are terrible and I would not doubt the $100 figure given here.

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  171. CJ says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists"

    Here's the thing. More US whites live in the suburbs than in the city. Its been this way since about the '50's, when "White Flight" began in earnest. Coincidentally, whites at the time were fleeing the cities because of...blacks.

    Since no one ever asks the question, guess I'll have to: Why don't these urban hipster whites just, you know, move to the suburbs? They can still visit the city whenever they want to for clubs or cultural events. For the most part, the suburbs have better public schools and lower violent crime. Safety and education for the kids is kind of what its all about for white parents, so why not just bite the bullet and join their compadres by moving to the suburbs?

    Perhaps its mainly a NY thing? Outside of NY, urban hipsters generally aren't writing screed after screed about the evil dangers of living in the suburbs. If anything, outside of NY, most of the other major cities movers and shapers of public opinion generally tend to reside in the suburbs, not the cities.

    Take the NY factor out of the equation and going apoplectic over the "evil" menace which is the suburbs really isn't a thing among hipster SWPL's since they tend to reside (or will as they age and start families) in suburbs themselves.

    According to Joel Kotkin, most of their contemporaries are doing just that — moving to suburbs and exurbs.

    The Screwed Millennial Generation Gets Smart

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  172. Tex says:
    @Massimo Heitor


    Far from being a relic of the past, America’s racist and segregationist history continues to harm black people in the most intimate of ways—seeping into their lungs, their blood, even their DNA.

     

    Save this quote. This shows how far progressive writers will twist reality to blame all the problems of black people on white people. She's claiming that white racism from distant history is literally seeping into black people's lungs, blood, and DNA to cause their sleep apnea and all health ailments.

    Save this quote. This shows how far progressive writers will twist reality to blame all the problems of black people on white people. She’s claiming that white racism from distant history is literally seeping into black people’s lungs, blood, and DNA to cause their sleep apnea and all health ailments.

    21st century social justice “science” writing in a nutshell.

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  173. Kylie says:
    @syonredux

    I’ve been saying this for decades, so I doubt if it will ever get through, but it’s obvious that poor inner city blacks are the American real estate market’s biggest hot potato. So, there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists.
     
    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the "one Black family per block" policy would be highly beneficial.....For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality....

    “…a nation-wide version of the ‘one Black family per block’ policy would be highly beneficial…..For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality….”

    Highly beneficial to whom? Certainly not to the white neighbors. Wrt to black families and a lower quality of life for their white neighbors, one is one too many.

    And I don’t give a flip about cutting down black dysfunctionality. I want it contained, confined solely to black neighborhoods.

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  174. @Hibernian
    Do you mean 30 miles from DC? I don't think many gentrifiers want a 60 mile daily round trip commute.

    Hibernian, every yuppie doesn’t have to work in D.C.

    Not a Baltimore guy, but even I know John Hopkins–a leading medical center, med school in the US–is right there within a 1/2 mile of the inner harbor. The whole setup of that inner harbor area of Baltimore would be a yuppie paradise, but for blacks. If the real estate guys could arrange an air burst neutron bomb or release some strain of plague or get everyone to agree it’s racism for blacks to live in Baltimore–anything to get the joint cleaned out–they’d have a field day.

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  175. Tex says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Ok wound you trade places with her?

    That's what I thought

    Ok wound you trade places with her?

    That’s what I thought

    Who’d want to trade places with someone who did such a good job of screwing up her life?

    Here’s the thing, I’m familiar with most of her issues. Screwed up at college, difficulty with jobs, self-inflicted health problems, etc. I did what most people do, I matured a little, went back to doing what I needed to do, and earned my degree, worked to keep a steady job, and I’m still walking around. That’s life.

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  176. @Half Canadian
    I tried reading the article, and it was just a series of problems that this lady had created for herself.
    Did segregation make her obese? Of course not.
    Did it make her an alcoholic? I could concede some responsibility, if I'm generous, but only a sliver.
    Did it give her diabetes and sleep apnea? See obesity.

    Same with crime. It is reductionist in the extreme to look at the problems in black America today and say "Because: Racism".

    I tried reading the article, and it was just a series of problems that this lady had created for herself.
    Did segregation make her obese? Of course not.

    Same reaction–i too couldn’t get very far either.

    It’s a very weird article. The first paragraph

    One morning this past September, Kiarra Boulware boarded the 26 bus to Baltimore’s Bon Secours Hospital, where she would seek help for the most urgent problem in her life: the 200-some excess pounds she carried on her 5-foot-2-inch frame.

    rather than being a credible “hook”, basically makes it clear that this woman’s problems stem not from “racism”, but from having no self-control–and probably being very stupid. You’d think you’d try and wrap an article around some black gal with health problems who was at least somewhat sympathetic. (All I this makes me think is “why is this woman alive–eating … and eating and eating–us taxpayers out of house and home”.)

    This certainly isn’t designed to actual convince any objective reader. I guess the Atlantic has just devolved to providing noise for “true believers”. That, or Olag is wiggling her ass in the air for Goldberg or the publisher or someone with some pull. Otherwise inexplicable.

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    Olga Khazan was named in the list of 10 Best Science Writers of 2014 by Real Clear Policy.
     
    Being as she cannot seem to understand obesity is almost entirely preventable and self-inflicted (absent a few vanishingly rare metabolic disorders), she sure as Hell is wiggling it for somebody.
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  177. @Ibound1
    The food choices made in the inner city - sugary, processed, fat, fast food - cannot be overcome by moving anyone anywhere. They are the same choices Theodore Dalrymple notes are made by the English underclass with the exact same results: obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure. Cutting out food stamps and payments and replacing them with canteens where the poor are given a healthy meal for a minimal payment (as is done in India) might help. But it will never be done.

    The food choices made in the inner city – sugary, processed, fat, fast food – cannot be overcome by moving anyone anywhere. They are the same choices Theodore Dalrymple notes are made by the English underclass with the exact same results: obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure. Cutting out food stamps and payments and replacing them with canteens where the poor are given a healthy meal for a minimal payment (as is done in India) might help. But it will never be done.

    “Food choices” isn’t really the problem. The problem is that modernity has arrived and is delivering the goods, and we no longer have the constraints and selection pressure that used to discipline and cull stupid and ill-disciplined people.

    You simply can not maintain modernity–much less modernity with a welfare state–without eugenics.

    The nations that go on to succeed and dominate will in one way or another do some sort of eugenics. Maybe that can be put off until it can be done technologically with genomics–not sure. But one way or another the future will be eugenic. The people/nations that figure that out and make it happen will win. It can not be stopped.

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  178. @Anonymous
    What makes children children is that they don't have judgment. It isn't as much that they lack IQ as compared to adults: plenty of ten to twelve year old kids are smarter than the left side of the bell curve of the adult population. And it isn't so much their smaller size. It's that they lack the ability to make sound decisions.

    Underclass blacks, and to a lesser extent lumpenprole whites, make poor decisions, consistently. That's why antebellum and Reconstruction Southern aristocrats and South African Boers regarded them as children. Children in big, powerful bodies sometimes, but children.

    Blacks' health would benefit enormously by getting rid of HFCS and restricting soft drinks and sugary packaged ready to eat foods, but since the restriction can't be applied specifically to blacks , whites would bitch that their rights were being interfered with.

    Also, when applied specifically to blacks, a certain level of gun control would make sense: not disarming them entirely, because they need to be able to defend themselves, but restricting them to weapons that are not too concealable, don't have too much firepower easily available, and are loud enough they know damn well they won't fire them without everyone knowing would make sense. But us white gun nuts can't support this kind of legislation, and we won't, because only the NRA's hardass and absolutist opposition to all gun laws has kept most any kind of firearm from being banned not only for blacks and prolewhites but anyone who isn't wealthy and connected enough to put up with things like New York City's Nazi pistol permit process. (Actually, I don't think the Nazis made it as hard for people to get guns as New York does.)

    Psychologically, what makes women women is that they don’t have reproductive judgment. It isn’t as much that they lack IQ as compared to men: plenty of thots are smarter than the left side of the male bell curve. And it isn’t so much their 50 cents upper body strength. It’s that they lack the ability to make sound mating decisions.

    Women left to their own devices make poor mate choices, consistently. That’s why all societies before the modern West regarded them as reproductive chattel.

    Women, and civilization, would benefit enormously by getting rid of sexual freedom and restricting their sexuality to one husband chosen by their parents, especially by their father, but since the restriction can’t be applied specifically to women who implicitly prefer single motherhood , marriageable women would bitch that their rights were being interfered with.

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  179. anon[179] • Disclaimer says:

    Blacks can’t thrive in the West because of racism. We need to let them go back to Africa so they can be freed from white racism, it’s the only way they can succeed. Give each black $10,000 and a free one way ticket back to Africa. It’ll cost us $416 billion but we can do it. Free the blacks!

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  180. @Thomm
    Contrary to the WN narrative, the number of famous white men who have married black women is about the same, proportionally, to the rate at which famous black men marry white women.

    Famous white men who have married black women :

    Robert DeNiro
    George Lucas
    Roger Ebert
    David Bowie
    Wolfgang Puck
    Bill Burr
    Dirk Nowitzki

    By contrast, one can scarcely find more than seven famous black men who married white women.

    The criteria :

    *The marriage has to have started after 1970.
    *The black person has to be 50% or more black (i.e. no Tiger Woods, etc.).
    *Middle Easterners don't count as white (several famous black men have married ME women). Kim Kardashian is not white.

    Contrary to the WN narrative, the number of famous white men who have married black women is about the same, proportionally, to the rate at which famous black men marry white women.

    Thomm, I’ve seen enough of your posts to know mathematical thinking really isn’t your strong point.

    1) This is the West, so there are *way* way more accomplished/famous white men than black men. They are both a much larger percentage of the population, and way more accomplished. That of all those you come up with this pathetic list of <10 should have been a huge indicator to you that your claim was wrong.

    2) Fewer black men actually "marry". Their default is, uh, engaging in sexual congress, often impregnating women, then leaving. That non-marriage skews things in your direction. But doesn't say anything about underlying attraction/desire and only a little about progeny.

    3) Black men are really only significantly accomplished/famous in "entertainment"–sports, music, acting. If you just make a list of black men you consider famous and then start counting those who are married and who they are married to, you'll disabuse yourself of this utter nonsense.

    Famous/successful black guys married to white women is utterly common. Famous/successful white guys marrying black women is very, very rare.

    Trivia–one data point–the one famous black man I actually know, or more accurately "knew"–Neil Tyson–is definitely married to a white woman (who was in my batch in grad school). (She should have overlapped a couple years of undergrad with Steve at Rice.)

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    I’ve seen enough of your posts to know mathematical thinking really isn’t your strong point.
     
    After which you proceed into a a comment that has zero quantitative backing for your very subjective claims.

    While it is hard to quantify fame and judge who really is Tier 1 and Tier 2, if one takes white and black men who can widely be seen as Tier 1 or Tier 2, the incidence of WM-BW is not significantly tilted relative to the incidence of BM-WW.

    A pro athlete is only a Tier 1 or Tier 2 celeb if they are in the tier where they get a lot of endorsement revenue. Every NFL or NBA player is not automatically that famous.

    I listed eight such WM. Efforts to list BM don't go too much higher than eight. The White Nationalist narrative would have you believe that this is a 100:1 bias of preference.

    Note that the most marketable top black guys in terms of fame, coolness, etc. didn't marry white women. Denzel Washington, Eddie Murphy, Will Smith, Idris Elba, Deion Sanders.

    My point stands, and is self-evident.
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    He's a troll--ignore him...
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  181. @syonredux

    I’ve been saying this for decades, so I doubt if it will ever get through, but it’s obvious that poor inner city blacks are the American real estate market’s biggest hot potato. So, there is a multi-trillion dollar incentive for urban whites to believe, conveniently but no doubt quite sincerely by now, that Science has Proven that there are Reasons why the government is morally obligated to dump this hot potato in the laps of non-urban whites, those disgusting racists.
     
    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the "one Black family per block" policy would be highly beneficial.....For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality....

    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial…..For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality….

    Syonredux, i generally read and appreciate your comments. But this is one of the more clueless–dated, cucky, white knighty–things i have ever read.

    This is what we absolutely *must not* allow to happen.

    Chicago’s Jews, in concert with the Obama administration, already pushed a bunch more blacks into my cousin’s Dubuque. Not to her benefit. They would like to do this nationwide. Make flyover country gentiles live with the dysfunction of *their* vote bank.

    It’s the heart and soul of minoritarianism. The majority is just *not entitled* to enjoy what they have built in peace. They must yield their stuff–i’ll say it again–companies and communities, neighborhoods and nations, to minorities.

    In fact, what we must do is the reverse. Whites–now forced into being a minority in our own nation–must behave more like Jews and say “we’re an ethnic group and demand to have our own stuff, have our own communities, preserve our own race and culture, have our own nations.”

    Demand separation and make all the white goodthinkers–Jews and their fellow traveller gentiles–who love “diversity” so damn much live in their rainbow hued utopia with their black, “Hispanic” and muzzie mascots themselves and let whites who want to be left alone to enjoy their “whiteness” go about their business without harassment.

    It’s ok to be white.

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    Whites–now forced into being a minority in our own nation–must behave more like Jews
     
    We’re all Jews now. Time to act like it.

    Measure everything by the yardstick “Is it good for the Whites?”
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  182. eah says:
    @stillCARealist
    I wonder how Jerusalem (I was just visiting) fits into this graph. I saw some apartment prices posted and they were outrageous. And, kids were everywhere.

    People who want and make babies know how to make it work. Too many millenials neither want nor are even in a position to make babies, i.e. married.

    I wonder how Jerusalem (I was just visiting) fits into this graph.

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  183. prusmc says: • Website
    @Thomm
    Only the following from your list are as famous as the list of white men I originally listed :

    Sidney Poitier
    Seal
    Richard Pryor
    Quincy Jones
    James Earl Jones
    Cuba Gooding
    Bryant Gumbel
    Charles Barkley
    Michael Jordan (Hispanic, so debatable)

    So this list is about nine, which is about the same length as the list of white men marrying black women (updated to include Boris Becker). Plus, someone like Richard Pryor who married 7 times obviously married both black and white (and divorced both).

    So my point stands. WM-BW and BM-WW are equal in frequency if the man is famous. There is no overwhelming bias of BM-WW relative to the other way around.

    Shame Boris Becker didn’t marry one or both the Williams sisters. What a great offspring would do for the tennis world.

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  184. @TheBoom
    Given that white people are the cause of all blacks' problems, wouldn't isolating blacks from whites be the solution? Shouldn't we be using the Haiti model by helping blacks live on an island of blackness away from white privilege and microagressions?

    Given that white people are the cause of all blacks’ problems, wouldn’t isolating blacks from whites be the solution? Shouldn’t we be using the Haiti model by helping blacks live on an island of blackness away from white privilege and microagressions?

    Spot on. The logic of the “progressives”–and absolutely beaten home with the jihad over Michael Brown–is that whites cause black problems, which suggests the elegant solution of … separation!

    If young black men don’t have to obey white cops’ directions and are entitled to assualt them instead then, it’s absolutely clear that blacks and whites should be in separate communities with separate police forces. The logic there seems pretty darn inescapable to me.

    What’s badly needed is some Republican–”the white party”–politicians to be direct and explicit in pointing this logic out.

    ~~

    You can only really have a “community” when everyone in the community is on-board, on the same page in terms of norms and values. That’s what a “community” is. There is no such thing as a truely “diverse community”. You can have multi-ethnic, maybe even multi-racial. But someone’s norms and values must prevail, and be the community’s standard of behavior, or there is no “community”.

    (This basic issue–Jewish rejection of integration to the Christian community–is at the heart of Jewish/gentile conflict in Europe down through the ages. And the Gypsy one too. And lots of other places where there are non-integrable ethnic groups in proximity–conflict. The only way anyone–i.e. empires–have ever made “diversity” work is having each group separately take care of itself and beating the crap out of any group that gets out of line. See Romans or Ottoman Empire.)

    The basic answer to whining about whites holding blacks (or anyone else) down is … ok, let’s not live together! Problem solved!

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  185. @Ibound1
    The food choices made in the inner city - sugary, processed, fat, fast food - cannot be overcome by moving anyone anywhere. They are the same choices Theodore Dalrymple notes are made by the English underclass with the exact same results: obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure. Cutting out food stamps and payments and replacing them with canteens where the poor are given a healthy meal for a minimal payment (as is done in India) might help. But it will never be done.

    Ibound1 , I volunteer at an inner city mission in Buffalo. What we serve is basically what is donated, but sorry to say that our guests can be quite choosey. The like fried food and usually drench everything in hot sauce.

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  186. Thomm says:
    @AnotherDad

    Contrary to the WN narrative, the number of famous white men who have married black women is about the same, proportionally, to the rate at which famous black men marry white women.
     
    Thomm, I've seen enough of your posts to know mathematical thinking really isn't your strong point.

    1) This is the West, so there are *way* way more accomplished/famous white men than black men. They are both a much larger percentage of the population, and way more accomplished. That of all those you come up with this pathetic list of <10 should have been a huge indicator to you that your claim was wrong.

    2) Fewer black men actually "marry". Their default is, uh, engaging in sexual congress, often impregnating women, then leaving. That non-marriage skews things in your direction. But doesn't say anything about underlying attraction/desire and only a little about progeny.

    3) Black men are really only significantly accomplished/famous in "entertainment"--sports, music, acting. If you just make a list of black men you consider famous and then start counting those who are married and who they are married to, you'll disabuse yourself of this utter nonsense.

    Famous/successful black guys married to white women is utterly common. Famous/successful white guys marrying black women is very, very rare.


    Trivia--one data point--the one famous black man I actually know, or more accurately "knew"--Neil Tyson--is definitely married to a white woman (who was in my batch in grad school). (She should have overlapped a couple years of undergrad with Steve at Rice.)

    I’ve seen enough of your posts to know mathematical thinking really isn’t your strong point.

    After which you proceed into a a comment that has zero quantitative backing for your very subjective claims.

    While it is hard to quantify fame and judge who really is Tier 1 and Tier 2, if one takes white and black men who can widely be seen as Tier 1 or Tier 2, the incidence of WM-BW is not significantly tilted relative to the incidence of BM-WW.

    A pro athlete is only a Tier 1 or Tier 2 celeb if they are in the tier where they get a lot of endorsement revenue. Every NFL or NBA player is not automatically that famous.

    I listed eight such WM. Efforts to list BM don’t go too much higher than eight. The White Nationalist narrative would have you believe that this is a 100:1 bias of preference.

    Note that the most marketable top black guys in terms of fame, coolness, etc. didn’t marry white women. Denzel Washington, Eddie Murphy, Will Smith, Idris Elba, Deion Sanders.

    My point stands, and is self-evident.

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  187. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Also in The Atlantic, the poz never ends.

    Today’s Masculinity Is Stifling, by Sarah Rich

    https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2018/06/_Masculinity_for_The_Atlantic_2/lead_720_405.jpg?mod=1528491687

    Jenner, that is a sad illustration. Maybe a photo of Sarah Rich strapping on a dildo would be better.

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  188. @Dmitry
    She has SJW glasses for Twitter.

    Jewish name and matched for Google, but she has little discussion of Israel. So it seems sure she is not Israeli (which can be guessed also probably from the gender politics interest).


    https://twitter.com/olgakhazan/status/978982721803481088

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    More -

    She's from Leningrad, but also without any Russian identity anymore.

    I like America, but something scary how America takes so rapidly so many people from their home countries, and they can become so quickly globalized cosmopolitans without connection, or hardly able to speak, even to their first language.

    Journalist for The Atlantic like Julia Ioffe (but without the role of anti-Russian propaganda).

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/07/learning-forgetting-and-remembering-your-first-language/374906/

    Dmitry, So glad she has a “long fertility lifespan”, but fat chance some guy will want to breed with her.

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  189. Olorin says:
    @bomag

    It isn’t going to work. The social welfare cost of blacks is enormous, and exurban whites just don’t have the resources to provide for them.
     
    Modern logistics, infrastructure, and the wealth of Western countries has the central gov't dishing out checks to the hinterland to maintain one and all "in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed."

    The question is how many can be supported until the money runs out?

    I don’t know what experience you have with the actual US hinterlands…but “central government checks” “dished out” don’t seem to improve anything there.

    For starters, the majority of it is either housing scam or Big Ag/Big Pharma:

    https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2009/march/federal-funding-in-rural-america-goes-far-beyond-agriculture/

    And the “income security” majority noted above isn’t staying in the pockets of rural America. It’s going to Wal-Mart, fast food, AGM/Cargill/etc., Big Tobacco, Comcast, Exxon/Mobil, etc., and thousands of smaller players.

    Welfare is corporate and private sector subsidy laundered through carefully wrangled Huddled Masses.

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  190. fitzGetty says:

    … and — look at the witchery of this :
    A museum in New England puts wall labels next to portraits of white men who profited from the slave trade.
    ‘’’’’’’ The Worcester Art Museum has appended additional labels to portraits in their early American portrait gallery to identify the individuals who benefited from slavery and how.
    Elizabeth Athens, a former curator of American art at the Worcester Art Museum, who led the effort, which began last fall, said the previous wall labels relayed only one side of their subject’s history and that of the region.
    ‘’We tend to think of New England and Massachusetts in particular as an abolitionist state, which it was, of course, but there’s this kind of flattening of the discussion of slavery and its history in the states,” Athens told New England Public Radio. Athens said she wanted to represent in some way that the predominantly white and male subjects in the gallery are only part of that era’s history and provide some space for people of color. ‘’’’’’’’
    (from Artsy)

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  191. @Thomm

    Not to Whites. Access to White people is not a human right.
     
    Correct, but I would prefer if we take it one step further.

    Part of the reason that the better 80% of whites exhibits such excellence is that the white race diverts all of its genetic waste matter into the bottom 20%. This bottom 20% effectively becomes a defective subrace that acts as a carrier for the removal of waste matter.

    The men of this race become White Nationalists. The women become fat bluehaired feminists.

    The members of this defective subrace (even if borne of proper whites) should also be exiled out of white society when they reach adulthood. Then the removal of waste matter as nature intended is even more efficient.

    Part of the reason that the better 80% of whites exhibits such excellence is that the white race diverts all of its genetic waste matter into the bottom 20%. This bottom 20% effectively becomes a defective subrace that acts as a carrier for the removal of waste matter.

    Do please go on. This notion of yours that the top 80% are better than the bottom 20% is absolutely fascinating.

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    Do please go on. This notion of yours that the top 80% are better than the bottom 20% is absolutely fascinating.
     
    er...It is about the unusually high variance found within whites vs. in other races. The distribution is bimodal.

    I have repeated this many times, yet still appears to be a concept far too complicated for you and your 70-IQ ilk.
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  192. Forbes says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    She looks pretty much like every white woman I’ve ever known
     
    No, she's not fat enough-yet.....

    I’ve said this elsewhere, but all that a woman needs to do (today) to be above average in looks is to be not fat. That observation, alone, tells you the miserable state of young women in America.

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    Yep. My wife keeps freaking out about the mild (and ever receding!) tummy she retains less than a month after birthing our son, yet she is more svelte than a good eighty per cent of (neither pregnant nor recently so) females in America.

    Yet these same creatures demand men be dashing and charming. Imagine if, for single men, all one had to do was to simply not be fat and women would be excited about having found "a decent one."
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  193. Forbes says:
    @bomag

    It’s scientific and its testable.
     
    Will truth and empirical results win out in the end?

    Politics is so attuned to denying reality that I sometimes wonder.

    Still at the stage of wonder? Politics seems to win out, eventually, every time. Facts inconvenient to The Narrative will be ignored.

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  194. Forbes says:
    @Anonymous
    Were whites fleeing cities in the 1950s and early 60s because of blacks? It was more likely because of Sputnik.

    Whites fleeing cities in the ’50s and ’60s were moving out of cramped housing (apartments), and buying (more spacious) homes with yards for children to play in. The long hot summer of urban riots was 1967–inasmuch as some occurred earlier, e.g. Watts (LA), in 1965.

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  195. @The Z Blog
    Olga is yet another expert on Baltimore, who has never spent a night in the city. The way it works is they call the city and are directed to someone who is basically a poverty tour guide. Their job is to provide suitable sob stories for the fresh scrubbed reporterette. Poverty porn is the on thing we do well here in Charm City.

    Notice that young Olga is an "award winning science writer" with no math or science.

    I’m surprised our host has never namechecked James LaFond, who blogs from the Baltimore front lines and is an interesting if depressing read.

    https://www.jameslafond.com/?c=2

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  196. Clyde says:
    @anon
    Chinatown restaurants are mostly tourist traps. Some of the worst food I've had were in Chinatowns. Most restaurants are so hole in the wall the hygiene is also not up to snuff. In CA entire cities are of one ethnicity, like the San Gabrielle Valley (626 area code) and Monterrey Park for the Chinese, East L.A. for Mexicans, or Daly City for Filipinos. I would surmise the restaurants in these ethnoburbs are much more authentic since they are mostly devoid of tourists.

    San Gabrielle Valley (626 area code) is an upgraded Chinatown. Spread out suburban style. Sure, your urban Chinatowns have low grade eateries and tourist traps. You must do your research to know what the good Chinatown restaurants are with non-Americanized Chinese food.

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  197. George says:
    @George
    White lady, and chemical engineer/climate change specialist, calls cops on blacks BBQing in Oakland. Cops don't think they were a problem, but because charcoal causes global warming or smog or fires or something chase the blacks away. Blacks think they were grandfathered into their South'n customs in 1940 and cannot be held to white fixations like CO2 from a BBQ melting glaciers. I think it is nice of the (likely unmarried and childless )white lady to think about the future of black kids and call the police on them for climate changing.

    ‘BBQ Becky’: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

    https://heavy.com/news/2018/05/jennifer-schulte-bbq-becky/

    Measuring The Carbon Footprint Of A Charcoal Grill (I bet the white lady listens to NPR)

    https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106273845

    Turns out crazy white engineer lady was not crazy. They were probably using charcoal in a non-charcoal designated area. https://www.lakemerritt.org/park-info.html

    I will say the icons on the map are confusing. I thought the non charcoal BBQ icon looked like a charcoal BBQ. I apologize to BBQ Becky.

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  198. IBC says:
    @Thomm
    Contrary to the WN narrative, the number of famous white men who have married black women is about the same, proportionally, to the rate at which famous black men marry white women.

    Famous white men who have married black women :

    Robert DeNiro
    George Lucas
    Roger Ebert
    David Bowie
    Wolfgang Puck
    Bill Burr
    Dirk Nowitzki

    By contrast, one can scarcely find more than seven famous black men who married white women.

    The criteria :

    *The marriage has to have started after 1970.
    *The black person has to be 50% or more black (i.e. no Tiger Woods, etc.).
    *Middle Easterners don't count as white (several famous black men have married ME women). Kim Kardashian is not white.

    Kim Kardashian is not white.

    At this point, her whole family probably identifies as trans(racial): but since the US Census Bureau and the general American public has historically considered Armenians to be white, and the other side of her family is of mostly English, but also of Scottish, Irish, Dutch, and German ancestry; Occam’s razor suggests that the Kardashians are just white people who buy tan-in-a-can by the barrel and who are careful to use the “darken” effects button before tweeting out their selfies…

    http://ethnicelebs.com/kim-kardashian

    And why exclude “Middle Easterners” from your metrics?

    But regardless, as someone with ancient Aryan roots yourself, and an ardent student of white nationalism to boot, I would have presumed that you already knew that Armenians are technically not even Middle Easterners but “Caucasians”–sprung forth from the purest of racial stock; as gleaming and white as the snows of Mt. Aragats…

    But getting back to your initial assertion: Yes! If I were famous I would definitely marry Lupita Nyong’o and help you make your case.

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    When Robert Kardashian was in the news during the O.J. Simpson trial I highly doubt anyone thought of him as anything except white. And unlike his children he actually was fully Armenian.
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  199. Forbes says:
    @AnotherDad

    Contrary to the WN narrative, the number of famous white men who have married black women is about the same, proportionally, to the rate at which famous black men marry white women.
     
    Thomm, I've seen enough of your posts to know mathematical thinking really isn't your strong point.

    1) This is the West, so there are *way* way more accomplished/famous white men than black men. They are both a much larger percentage of the population, and way more accomplished. That of all those you come up with this pathetic list of <10 should have been a huge indicator to you that your claim was wrong.

    2) Fewer black men actually "marry". Their default is, uh, engaging in sexual congress, often impregnating women, then leaving. That non-marriage skews things in your direction. But doesn't say anything about underlying attraction/desire and only a little about progeny.

    3) Black men are really only significantly accomplished/famous in "entertainment"--sports, music, acting. If you just make a list of black men you consider famous and then start counting those who are married and who they are married to, you'll disabuse yourself of this utter nonsense.

    Famous/successful black guys married to white women is utterly common. Famous/successful white guys marrying black women is very, very rare.


    Trivia--one data point--the one famous black man I actually know, or more accurately "knew"--Neil Tyson--is definitely married to a white woman (who was in my batch in grad school). (She should have overlapped a couple years of undergrad with Steve at Rice.)

    He’s a troll–ignore him…

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    He’s a troll–ignore him…
     
    Translation : The 70-IQ WN wigger has no rebuttal, and thus can only squeak in utterly defeated humiliation.

    That means you, Forbes, in case you still can't figure it out.
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  200. Thomm says:

    but since the US Census Bureau and the general American public has historically considered Armenians to be white

    Yes, according to the US Census bureau (which also classifies Arabs, Persians, and Afghans as white).

    But among White Nationalists, there is a view that even Jews are not white and Turks are definitely not white. Hence, Armenians cannot be considered white if WNs are to have any consistency.

    Looks-wise, she is pretty brown even if only half-Armenian.

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  201. @Charles Pewitt
    Connecticut Blacks are on the march into your nice White towns in Connecticut. Obama tried to do the same thing to baby boomer hypocrite Hillary Clinton in Chappaqua, New York. Hillary Clinton moved to Chappaqua to avoid Blacks, and Obama tried to stuff Blacks into Chappaqua to piss her off. Is Obama that petty and vindictive? Yes. Obama learned the Black underclass housing transfer game from the Pritzker's in Chicago.

    Connecticut Puritans settled Newark, New Jersey.

    Blacks are thick on the ground in Newark.

    Chris Christie was born in Newark. Now Christie lives far away from Newark in a nice White town. Watch the new Leprechaun governor of New Jersey move the Newark Blacks to Chris Christie's nice White town.

    Christie is a fat slob coward baby boomer. I enjoyed going after him at a presidential primary town hall meeting in NH. I would rhetorically rip Christie's substantial guts out in a 4 hour debate on immigration, trade, foreign policy and standing up for White Core American interests.

    All the nonsense ends when the interest rates start to rise.

    Demography and Debt -- Mass Immigration and Monetary Extremism

    So is every American born from 1946 to 1964 guilty?

    Do you want all of us to be overrun, while you enjoy schadenfreude?

    Or would you prefer we all just shoot ourselves?

    Take a look at an election map broken down finely enough and you know the US is purple, even in Connecticut. There are a lot of people here who think as I do. We are not the majority. That is a problem.

    Hey, did you know that Steve lives in The People’s Diverse Republic of California and is a baby boomer? Did he ruin your inheritance too?

    Sorry, but focusing on baby boomers as a guilty generation is grossly missing the point.

    Sorry too if I am misinterpreting your perspective. I agree with all the rest of what you say.

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  202. @JimB

    Blacks actually like to be with other blacks, it is that simple.
     
    Yes, but to play the victim, blacks need a white audience to browbeat and victimize.

    Jim, foolish me…Victimhood, of course.

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  203. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan

    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial…..For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality….
     
    Blacks are 12 percent of the population, but for the most part are highly concentrated in certain areas. So in some places their numbers are quite small to nonexistent. What if you could change that? Suppose you had the power to spread the black population out equally among every state, county, city, town and neighborhood so that every place in the USA was 12 percent black, no more no less.

    I imagine it would make several cities a bit more livable, but would really destroy a lot of places too. My guestimate is that a black population of 5% or more causes a noticeable change in a town or school. And 10 percent or more is enough to cause white flight for those who can afford it. So though it would probably be best for blacks in general to be equally spread out, it would really change much of the nation for the worse. On the other hand it might cause a large junk of the 40 percent of whites who still vote democrat to reassess.

    When the black population of San Francisco’s was minuscule before WW2 they caused few problems. When they were brought her to work in the shipyards during WW2 they caused most of the problems in the city. 1970 census they were 11 percent and they aeee about 95% of the criminals and welfare people. They destroyed entire very nice neighborhoods.

    One neighborhood Fillmore Divisadoro lower Pacific Heights went from a lovely neighborhood to an infamous criminal black ghetto and back to a wonderful neighborhood in about 60 years 1940 to 2000.
    1940 White and Japanese 1950 1980 black criminal ghetto 1980 White gay men gentrified. 2000 Wonderful White and Asian neighborhood

    Any black population over 5 percent is a disaster. 10 percent it’s all over.

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  204. Camlost says:
    @Thirdtwin
    From where I sit in metro Atlanta, on the outer edge of suburbia, it appears that black people here have not been driven out of West End to Alpharetta. They have come from the suburbs and downtowns of other cities. Maybe Cincinnati or Indianapolis gentrifiers are having success in whitening inner cities, but in Atlanta, once you go black, you never go back.

    As long as Alpharetta remains single-family homes with active HOA and codes that will never happen. Not even if they extend Marta to Windward Pkwy.

    Dunwoody and Sandy Springs incorporated to prevent Fulton County leadership from allowing too many apartments to be built, to prevent what you’ve described.

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  205. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato

    The facility and the specialists (employed by the hospital) will receive a grand total Medicare reimbursement of… wait for it… $100
     
    That makes no sense. You can run a hospital that way for about a week, then it's "sale! everything must go".

    I would think Medicare reimburses everything (lots of $$$$) but the patient only pays $100.

    Please clarify.

    No, Medicare reimbursements are pathetic.
    A Dr told me it’s about 10 percent of the cost. The fact that so many are on Medicare and Medicaid is the reason the cost of medical care is so high. The non Medicare Medicaid patients are charged enough to keep the whole thing going.

    Look at it this way. There is a 6 unit apartment house. It costs 6,000 a month to pay mortgage. Property tax utilities regular maintainence and the major maintenance saving account.

    But the government places people in 3 apartments and pays their rent. But the government only pays $20o a month rent for each of those apartments.

    So the landlord has to raise the rent of the 3 other apartment to $1,800 to get
    $5,400 to keep the place going

    Then think of the ERs in black neighborhoods dealing with the gun knife and beatings wounds, child abuse druggie drunk problems and the expenses caused by Black behavior

    A lot of those patients aren’t covered by Medicare Medicaid . Most states have a reimbursement program for victim of crime medical costs but it is a cumbersome cumbersome process

    Plus, Medicare Medicaid is very very slow to pay like 2 years.

    Then there is the clerical and sometimes legal cost of pursuing the Billings.

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    You forgot to mention the fraudulent billing for services never even provided, almost universally by Jewish, Vietnamese, Hindoo, Chinese, and otherwise parasitic, invasive physicians, along with the costs for qui tam actions and related efforts to address the ones who are actually caught....
    , @JSM
    No, Medicare reimbursements are pathetic.
    A Dr told me it’s about 10 percent of the cost
    .

    You'll forgive me for letting my skepticism about THAT assertion show.


    Little story: My local hospital (supported by the County), being a monopoly, for years and years gave pretty crappy hospital experiences. Never enough nurses, ER waits hours long, ugly interiors in the patient rooms, etc. The excuse they used, they'd whine that it's because Medicare doesn't reimburse enough, why, indeed, you know, they actually LOST money anytime they'd take a Medicare patient! But of course, out of their humanitarian mission, why, the very goodness of their hearts (and County funding) that they'd continue to do so, anyway, oh heavy sigh.

    ....So, one day the hospital got in a catfight with a local surgeon, who huffed off and opened his own hospital. When it opened, we were all astonished. Plenty of nurses, who, being well-treated themselves, were nicer to the patients, ER waits of sometimes a mere 45 minutes, and you could call ahead and find out what the current ER wait is, and lovely private patient rooms. Plus, free meals for the patient's Significant Other. And, yes, they DO take Medicare!

    So... a few months later, here comes the Op-Ed from the County-funded hospital, how "Crisis!! The County hospital is about to go broke and maybe have to, gasp, CLOSE (or some shit) because...because... the physician-owned one is STEALING all their Medicare patients!!"


    Ok, I admit, I can be gullible fer sher, but something here don't quite jibe. First you tell us, County hospital, that you LOSE money on Medicare patients; in fact you used that song-and-dance as your excuse for crappy care for almost two decades. I should think that the physician-owned hospital, taking those losers off your hands would be a relief. But, NOW you're whining that you're about to go broke due to the new hospital is stealing your Medicare patients?! What gives? Which IS it? Bullshit from start to finish, maybe?

    , @Brutusale
    I don't know where you live, but in Massachusetts we've got Section 8 housing vouchers in the $1,400-1,800 range, according to a friend in property management.

    The other problem urban hospitals have is that, because all the medical personnel are white and Asian, the clerical staff is mostly black/Hispanic, leading to the attendant coding errors that delay or negate prompt payments.
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  206. prosa123 says: • Website
    @IBC

    Kim Kardashian is not white.
     
    At this point, her whole family probably identifies as trans(racial): but since the US Census Bureau and the general American public has historically considered Armenians to be white, and the other side of her family is of mostly English, but also of Scottish, Irish, Dutch, and German ancestry; Occam's razor suggests that the Kardashians are just white people who buy tan-in-a-can by the barrel and who are careful to use the "darken" effects button before tweeting out their selfies...

    http://ethnicelebs.com/kim-kardashian

    And why exclude "Middle Easterners" from your metrics?

    But regardless, as someone with ancient Aryan roots yourself, and an ardent student of white nationalism to boot, I would have presumed that you already knew that Armenians are technically not even Middle Easterners but "Caucasians"--sprung forth from the purest of racial stock; as gleaming and white as the snows of Mt. Aragats...

    But getting back to your initial assertion: Yes! If I were famous I would definitely marry Lupita Nyong'o and help you make your case.

    When Robert Kardashian was in the news during the O.J. Simpson trial I highly doubt anyone thought of him as anything except white. And unlike his children he actually was fully Armenian.

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    When Robert Kardashian was in the news during the O.J. Simpson trial I highly doubt anyone thought of him as anything except white. And unlike his children he actually was fully Armenian.
     
    OK, then Jews must also be white, then.

    They are closer to European than Armenians are.
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  207. @AnotherDad

    I tried reading the article, and it was just a series of problems that this lady had created for herself.
    Did segregation make her obese? Of course not.
     
    Same reaction--i too couldn't get very far either.

    It's a very weird article. The first paragraph

    One morning this past September, Kiarra Boulware boarded the 26 bus to Baltimore’s Bon Secours Hospital, where she would seek help for the most urgent problem in her life: the 200-some excess pounds she carried on her 5-foot-2-inch frame.
     
    rather than being a credible "hook", basically makes it clear that this woman's problems stem not from "racism", but from having no self-control--and probably being very stupid. You'd think you'd try and wrap an article around some black gal with health problems who was at least somewhat sympathetic. (All I this makes me think is "why is this woman alive--eating … and eating and eating--us taxpayers out of house and home".)

    This certainly isn't designed to actual convince any objective reader. I guess the Atlantic has just devolved to providing noise for "true believers". That, or Olag is wiggling her ass in the air for Goldberg or the publisher or someone with some pull. Otherwise inexplicable.

    Olga Khazan was named in the list of 10 Best Science Writers of 2014 by Real Clear Policy.

    Being as she cannot seem to understand obesity is almost entirely preventable and self-inflicted (absent a few vanishingly rare metabolic disorders), she sure as Hell is wiggling it for somebody.

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    A third of Americans are obese and a third are overweight, per BMI. I don't think any of those people do not want to lose weight.

    After reading Pinker's Blank Slate, my feelings on obesity have evolved.


    she cannot seem to understand obesity is entirely preventable and self-inflicted
     
    How is it preventable? You just stop eating? What if you have a compulsion to eat? Just use will power? What is will power? Where does it come from? Do you control your will power? Who are you?

    Pinker talks about the leftist falacy of the ghost in the machine, and I think that applies to popular opinion about obesity among both leftists and conservatives. There is this idea that there is a separate, completely rational "you" driving your body. In fact "you" is your body. It is nothing more than the sum of all the organic goop that makes up your body. There is no soul, no ghost in the machine. You are your genes, expressed in your environment, and there is no changing of that. The genes of people doom them to be fat just as much as your genes doom you to make snarky comments about fat people. You can't not do it, there is no logic that will change your opinion, just as fat people can't not overeat.

    Will power is present or absent in each person to the extent that their genes give it to them, and it varies epigenetically by their current environment and the extent to which it is obesigenic. You can see weight creeping up in other countries around the world, countries that have ridiculed the fatties in the U.S., as their environments become more obesigenic.

    Obesigenic means that you may have sufficient will power to avoid that snack if you are attending school in 1980, you have to eat the food and the portions the school gives you, there are no vending machines on campus, and you cannot leave campus. And so on for other contexts. In 2018 the environment is different, and a certain percentage of people be fat now that would not have been fat in 1980 because they have will power sufficient only for a world that no longer exists.

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  208. @AndrewR
    Access to slave labor imported from Africa isn't either, but that didn't stop early Americans, so now we are stuck with 40 million blacks whose ancestors were probably here before yours.

    Access to slave labor imported from Africa isn’t either, but that didn’t stop early Americans, so now we are stuck with 40 million blacks

    It didn’t stop the Arabs either.  They were selling Bantu slaves in Mecca as late as the 1960′s.  Yet a mere 50-odd years later, the Arabs don’t have anything like a dindu problem.

    I submit that we are no more “stuck” than they are, we just won’t do what needs to be done… yet.

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    I just realized that the Kingdom's chief executioner is clearly of sub-Saharan African descent and I never questioned why. Go figure.

    (He doesn't seem like a bad fellow. Professional executioners in relatively modern times seldom are, from what I've noticed: they aren't sadists, they just want to get the job done with minimum fuss. Pierrepoint was a gentlemen. Tend to rather laconic, un-reflective sorts, though. I guess that's part of keeping your sanity with the job. Sanson's famous reply to Napoleon asking if he slept well is a classic: "If kings, dictators, and emperors should sleep well, why shouldn't an executioner?")

    , @AndrewR
    Lead the charge.

    Lol
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  209. Thomm says:
    @Faraday's Bobcat

    Part of the reason that the better 80% of whites exhibits such excellence is that the white race diverts all of its genetic waste matter into the bottom 20%. This bottom 20% effectively becomes a defective subrace that acts as a carrier for the removal of waste matter.
     
    Do please go on. This notion of yours that the top 80% are better than the bottom 20% is absolutely fascinating.

    Do please go on. This notion of yours that the top 80% are better than the bottom 20% is absolutely fascinating.

    er…It is about the unusually high variance found within whites vs. in other races. The distribution is bimodal.

    I have repeated this many times, yet still appears to be a concept far too complicated for you and your 70-IQ ilk.

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  210. Thomm says:
    @Forbes
    He's a troll--ignore him...

    He’s a troll–ignore him…

    Translation : The 70-IQ WN wigger has no rebuttal, and thus can only squeak in utterly defeated humiliation.

    That means you, Forbes, in case you still can’t figure it out.

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  211. Thomm says:
    @prosa123
    When Robert Kardashian was in the news during the O.J. Simpson trial I highly doubt anyone thought of him as anything except white. And unlike his children he actually was fully Armenian.

    When Robert Kardashian was in the news during the O.J. Simpson trial I highly doubt anyone thought of him as anything except white. And unlike his children he actually was fully Armenian.

    OK, then Jews must also be white, then.

    They are closer to European than Armenians are.

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    Everyone knows that Jews are “White” when they do something bad (to blame on Whites) or want to hector Whites to behave in accordance with Jewish interests.

    Examples:
    “Male studio execs’ rampant sexual assaults show White privilege”

    (Never “Jewish studio execs’ rampant sexual assaults show Jewish privilege)

    “My Fellow Whites, we must acknowlege our White privilege”

    (Never “My fellow Jews, we must acknowlege our Jewish privilege.”)

    But Jews are “Jewish” (not White) when it suits them.

    Jewish Rabbi - “I’m not ‘White’. That’s a slave owner in the South.”

    https://twitter.com/framegames/status/960349989670215680?s=21

    “I’m not White, I’m Jewish.”

    Mike Wallace of ‘60 Minutes’ when Morgan Freeman says “you Whites” regarding slavery.

    https://archive.org/details/MikeWallaceImNotWhiteImJewish

    I believe Jews when they say they’re not White.

    They’re not like us. At all. And they don’t want to be.

    Nothing wrong with that btw.

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  212. @Forbes
    I've said this elsewhere, but all that a woman needs to do (today) to be above average in looks is to be not fat. That observation, alone, tells you the miserable state of young women in America.

    Yep. My wife keeps freaking out about the mild (and ever receding!) tummy she retains less than a month after birthing our son, yet she is more svelte than a good eighty per cent of (neither pregnant nor recently so) females in America.

    Yet these same creatures demand men be dashing and charming. Imagine if, for single men, all one had to do was to simply not be fat and women would be excited about having found “a decent one.”

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  213. @ThirdWorldSteveReader
    But the thesis is that it would benefit American whites; the blacks benefit from not living in the ghetto, and the whites benefit from not having to deal with the incursions of ghetto thuglets into normal society.

    But the thesis is….

    Irrelevant, because it’s false and we know it.  Nothing but overall educational, cultural and physical damage would result, and the only way it would not result in immediate flight to re-segregate is if was lawful and accepted to correct (punish) minority misbehavior immediately and severely enough to keep it under control.  The burden of exercising such control would itself be a huge drain.

    Long story short:  America needs a divorce from its minorities.

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  214. @ThirdWorldSteveReader
    On the other hand, Uncleftish Beholding sounds much less cool than Atomic Theory.

    To each his own.

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  215. Arclight says:

    Another common thread in these types of Atlantic articles is that sympathetic characters at the heart of the story have wildly unrealistic dreams for their lives.

    I can’t decide whether A) the Atlantic staff actually think these are reasonable aspirations due to their incredibly limited exposure to similar people outside of work, B) realize these people are deluded but feel most readers will be sympathetic to the ‘victim’ because they are too obtuse to really consider how ridiculous these hopes and dreams are, C) are basically winking at readers like those found at this site. After all, the headline is not really the moral of the story Kazan is telling. It’s that being bad at planning and self-control while surrounding yourself with losers is a surefire way to end up at the bottom of society.

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  216. CCZ says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    If you want roast duck noodle soup with wontons you go to Chinatown. Jake.
     
    Just make sure it’s not too authentic.

    Corner cutting in the old country:

    All we can do is accept it. In our current society, everybody tries to swindle everybody else. There’s nothing we can do about it.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrv78nG9R04

    Supposedly, blockchain ledgers are going to track all supply sources.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNH7BIzqWNI

    But authentic local Kenyan cuisine uses electric power transformer oil for cooking and deep frying.

    https://www.thedailymeal.com/thieves-kenya-steal-electrical-transformer-oil-cooking/122814

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    Epic. Everything you need to know about how intractable evil and stupid the overwhelming majority of Negroes are is captured in this phenomenon.
    , @Anonymous
    Unfortunately, Askarel was banned decades ago. If they ate food cooked in that stuff once, the problem would stop immediately.
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  217. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Who showed his brilliance by going broke after earning tens of millions of dollars.

    Boom Boom doesn't do long-term planning very well.

    Yeah, I thought of Becker because I saw this article about him having to sell off his trophies and other tennis mementos because he’s so deep in the hole — over 50 million pounds.

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  218. bomag says:
    @benjaminl
    Alec MacGillis wrote about this from a marginally self-aware perspective in Slate:

    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/05/my_baltimore_neighborhood_is_a_wonderful_place_to_live_it_is_made_possible.html

    [My Baltimore neighbors] are not particularly affluent people who are getting to live the way relatively ordinary people could once live in cities that have now gotten fancy.

    Seems like another way to say that diversity is not our strength.

    In the more homogeneous society of past days, we were more able to share the nice things.

    Now it is harder to have nice things.

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  219. phil says:
    @Kurlos
    “except in the case of a few specific ailments, such as nondiabetic kidney disease, scientists have largely failed to identify genetic differences that might explain racial health disparities. The major underlying causes, many scientists now believe, are social and environmental forces that affect African Americans more than most other groups.”



    Does steve have a collection of medical conditions with racial differences that are genetically based?

    http://thescienceexplorer.com/brain-and-body/genetic-ancestry-partially-explains-racial-sleep-differences

    Neil Risch at UC-San Francisco is a specialist on the matter and can give you more references.

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  220. Moses says:
    @AnotherDad

    Obviously, this will never happen, but a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial…..For one thing, it would cut down on Black dysfunctionality….
     
    Syonredux, i generally read and appreciate your comments. But this is one of the more clueless--dated, cucky, white knighty--things i have ever read.

    This is what we absolutely *must not* allow to happen.

    Chicago's Jews, in concert with the Obama administration, already pushed a bunch more blacks into my cousin's Dubuque. Not to her benefit. They would like to do this nationwide. Make flyover country gentiles live with the dysfunction of *their* vote bank.

    It's the heart and soul of minoritarianism. The majority is just *not entitled* to enjoy what they have built in peace. They must yield their stuff--i'll say it again--companies and communities, neighborhoods and nations, to minorities.

    In fact, what we must do is the reverse. Whites--now forced into being a minority in our own nation--must behave more like Jews and say "we're an ethnic group and demand to have our own stuff, have our own communities, preserve our own race and culture, have our own nations."

    Demand separation and make all the white goodthinkers--Jews and their fellow traveller gentiles--who love "diversity" so damn much live in their rainbow hued utopia with their black, "Hispanic" and muzzie mascots themselves and let whites who want to be left alone to enjoy their "whiteness" go about their business without harassment.

    It's ok to be white.

    Whites–now forced into being a minority in our own nation–must behave more like Jews

    We’re all Jews now. Time to act like it.

    Measure everything by the yardstick “Is it good for the Whites?”

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  221. Moses says:
    @Thomm

    When Robert Kardashian was in the news during the O.J. Simpson trial I highly doubt anyone thought of him as anything except white. And unlike his children he actually was fully Armenian.
     
    OK, then Jews must also be white, then.

    They are closer to European than Armenians are.

    Everyone knows that Jews are “White” when they do something bad (to blame on Whites) or want to hector Whites to behave in accordance with Jewish interests.

    Examples:
    “Male studio execs’ rampant sexual assaults show White privilege”

    (Never “Jewish studio execs’ rampant sexual assaults show Jewish privilege)

    “My Fellow Whites, we must acknowlege our White privilege”

    (Never “My fellow Jews, we must acknowlege our Jewish privilege.”)

    But Jews are “Jewish” (not White) when it suits them.

    Jewish Rabbi – “I’m not ‘White’. That’s a slave owner in the South.”

    “I’m not White, I’m Jewish.”

    Mike Wallace of ‘60 Minutes’ when Morgan Freeman says “you Whites” regarding slavery.

    https://archive.org/details/MikeWallaceImNotWhiteImJewish

    I believe Jews when they say they’re not White.

    They’re not like us. At all. And they don’t want to be.

    Nothing wrong with that btw.

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  222. nebulafox says:
    @istevefan
    OT - More Sailer bait from the NYT. This time it's a book review entitled, How Christians Destroyed the Ancient World.

    I know a lot of people cite Gibbon as blaming Christianity for why the Roman Empire fell, but I went through the Decline and Fall last year (or at least up until Volume V-getting a job got in the way), and I found that his views were much more complex than that: he thought that Christianity hastened the fall more than causing it, from my impression. And I think that’s a reasonably accurate view of it. Christianity didn’t make Honorius a retard, for example, but cloistering him away and having him focused on the afterlife at the expense of this one certainly didn’t help his development. Gibbon is also quite rational in pointing out just why Christianity was more appealing than the old pagan religions. Julian the Apostate clearly realized a lot of what Gibbon points out, given how he tried to emphasize a united pagan belief that involved itself in social relief, etc. This isn’t to say that Gibbon is pro-Christian, far from it, but he wasn’t some snarky r/atheism teenager-or Huffington Post writer-blind to nuance, either.

    (There’s also the fact that when things collapsed, it’d be two major Christian forces-Byzantium protecting the moribund Europe from encroachments and monasteries storing away classical knowledge-that would preserve what was left of Western civilization through the dark centuries ahead. Where I take issue with Gibbon is that he doesn’t give Byzantium its due, from how far I got into the later volumes: had Constantinople not stayed upright through the centuries, there’s no way Europe would have been able to recover before the caliphate came a’knocking, no matter how many Charles Martel’s sprung up. Anyway, I suppose you could say that Christianity helped exacerbate the fall, but it also mitigated the results.)

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    I understand that most editions of Gibbon's book exclude or heavily edit the footnotes, which are where he makes his most critical comments about Christianity.
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  223. nebulafox says:
    @Mr. Rational

    Access to slave labor imported from Africa isn’t either, but that didn’t stop early Americans, so now we are stuck with 40 million blacks
     
    It didn't stop the Arabs either.  They were selling Bantu slaves in Mecca as late as the 1960's.  Yet a mere 50-odd years later, the Arabs don't have anything like a dindu problem.

    I submit that we are no more "stuck" than they are, we just won't do what needs to be done... yet.

    I just realized that the Kingdom’s chief executioner is clearly of sub-Saharan African descent and I never questioned why. Go figure.

    (He doesn’t seem like a bad fellow. Professional executioners in relatively modern times seldom are, from what I’ve noticed: they aren’t sadists, they just want to get the job done with minimum fuss. Pierrepoint was a gentlemen. Tend to rather laconic, un-reflective sorts, though. I guess that’s part of keeping your sanity with the job. Sanson’s famous reply to Napoleon asking if he slept well is a classic: “If kings, dictators, and emperors should sleep well, why shouldn’t an executioner?”)

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    I just realized that the Kingdom’s chief executioner is clearly of sub-Saharan African descent and I never questioned why.
     
    That one really dirty job... is done by a hereditary caste of Bantu.

    Are there many (any?) other visible Africans in the region?  The Indonesian maid (kept in semi-slavery) is almost a stereotype, there are plenty of Indian and Pakistani guest workers in the oil industries, there's a big team of Koreans building the NPP at Barakah, and of course there's the big annual surge for the Hajj, but overall the peninsula appears to be entirely made of Arab ethnostates.
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  224. @Alec Leamas
    "Being Black in America" often translates as "Living Amongst Underclass Blacks."

    And "Living Amongst Underclass Blacks" is bad for one's health, explaining the comely Ms. Khazan's desire to help blacks by moving them en masse away from where she wants to live.

    I think iSteve is on to something here - I doubt that the breathless readings of Tennessee Coates by the new class are much more than a ruse. They want to "help" underclass blacks by getting them away from their gentrifying whitopias and making them the problem of Badwhites whom they can defame to expiate their guilt.

    “Tennessee Coates” – is that how one pronounces the name of America’s Foremost Black Intellectual?
    I always thought it was more along the lines of “‘Tain’t Easy Coates” but hey, that’s just me. Cripes, I still pronounce Mrs Jay-Z’s name as a rhyme with “donkey”. Don’t even ask me about Mary J. Bilge.

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  225. @Massimo Heitor


    Far from being a relic of the past, America’s racist and segregationist history continues to harm black people in the most intimate of ways—seeping into their lungs, their blood, even their DNA.

     

    Save this quote. This shows how far progressive writers will twist reality to blame all the problems of black people on white people. She's claiming that white racism from distant history is literally seeping into black people's lungs, blood, and DNA to cause their sleep apnea and all health ailments.

    Well… there’s actually a grain of truth to this, as Jimmy “The Greek” Snyder explained back in the days before people learned to keep the truth to themselves.

    The black is a better athlete to begin with, because he’s been bred to be that way. Because of his high thighs and big thighs that goes up into his back. And they can jump higher and run faster because of their bigger thighs. And he’s bred to be the better athlete because this goes back all the way to the Civil War, when, during the slave trading, the big, the owner, the slave owner would, would, would, would breed his big black to his big woman so that he could have uh, uh big, uh big, uh big black kid, see. That’s where it all started!

    One can only imagine what a modern American Negro might be like if, rather than breeding for size, the slave owners had instead bred his ancestors for intelligence or docility.

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  226. @eah

    But aren’t most of those cities with high home value growth located in lefty blue coastal states?
    Lefty blue states, the very places where one finds a high concentration of crazy “progressive” womyn who’ve decided not to have children, you know, to save the planet?

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  227. Anon[206] • Disclaimer says:
    @Stick
    This is called the 'Black Shack' effect. When a unit exceeds 10% of blacks within a unit the blacks self segregate into the Black Shack. This was noticed during Vietnam within combat and combat support units. The remedy was keep blacks in any unit under 10% and preferably <5%. By doing so the blacks identify with the unit instead of their blackness and the unit's efficiency is maintained. At 10% the regression to mean is a powerful undertow.

    By doing so the blacks identify with the unit instead of their blackness and the unit’s efficiency is maintained.

    How was efficiency measured? Why would blacks identifying as black have any influence on efficiency?

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  228. Anon[206] • Disclaimer says:
    @Flip
    Like Oakland and Brooklyn, a gentrified Baltimore would have tremendous value given its stellar location.

    What’s stellar about its location?

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    Part of the greater Washington metro area, close to Philadelphia and New York and the rest of the eastern seaboard, with a great harbor.
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  229. @nebulafox
    I just realized that the Kingdom's chief executioner is clearly of sub-Saharan African descent and I never questioned why. Go figure.

    (He doesn't seem like a bad fellow. Professional executioners in relatively modern times seldom are, from what I've noticed: they aren't sadists, they just want to get the job done with minimum fuss. Pierrepoint was a gentlemen. Tend to rather laconic, un-reflective sorts, though. I guess that's part of keeping your sanity with the job. Sanson's famous reply to Napoleon asking if he slept well is a classic: "If kings, dictators, and emperors should sleep well, why shouldn't an executioner?")

    I just realized that the Kingdom’s chief executioner is clearly of sub-Saharan African descent and I never questioned why.

    That one really dirty job… is done by a hereditary caste of Bantu.

    Are there many (any?) other visible Africans in the region?  The Indonesian maid (kept in semi-slavery) is almost a stereotype, there are plenty of Indian and Pakistani guest workers in the oil industries, there’s a big team of Koreans building the NPP at Barakah, and of course there’s the big annual surge for the Hajj, but overall the peninsula appears to be entirely made of Arab ethnostates.

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  230. AndrewR says:
    @Mr. Rational

    Access to slave labor imported from Africa isn’t either, but that didn’t stop early Americans, so now we are stuck with 40 million blacks
     
    It didn't stop the Arabs either.  They were selling Bantu slaves in Mecca as late as the 1960's.  Yet a mere 50-odd years later, the Arabs don't have anything like a dindu problem.

    I submit that we are no more "stuck" than they are, we just won't do what needs to be done... yet.

    Lead the charge.

    Lol

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    Lead the charge.
     
    Too old for that crap.  Strategy and logistics, now, there's a job I can still do.
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  231. JJB Sarto says:
    @Barnard
    Is it relatively safe for tourists to visit?

    No.

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  232. @CCZ
    But authentic local Kenyan cuisine uses electric power transformer oil for cooking and deep frying.

    https://www.thedailymeal.com/thieves-kenya-steal-electrical-transformer-oil-cooking/122814

    Epic. Everything you need to know about how intractable evil and stupid the overwhelming majority of Negroes are is captured in this phenomenon.

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  233. Anonymous[271] • Disclaimer says:
    @nebulafox
    I know a lot of people cite Gibbon as blaming Christianity for why the Roman Empire fell, but I went through the Decline and Fall last year (or at least up until Volume V-getting a job got in the way), and I found that his views were much more complex than that: he thought that Christianity hastened the fall more than causing it, from my impression. And I think that's a reasonably accurate view of it. Christianity didn't make Honorius a retard, for example, but cloistering him away and having him focused on the afterlife at the expense of this one certainly didn't help his development. Gibbon is also quite rational in pointing out just why Christianity was more appealing than the old pagan religions. Julian the Apostate clearly realized a lot of what Gibbon points out, given how he tried to emphasize a united pagan belief that involved itself in social relief, etc. This isn't to say that Gibbon is pro-Christian, far from it, but he wasn't some snarky r/atheism teenager-or Huffington Post writer-blind to nuance, either.

    (There's also the fact that when things collapsed, it'd be two major Christian forces-Byzantium protecting the moribund Europe from encroachments and monasteries storing away classical knowledge-that would preserve what was left of Western civilization through the dark centuries ahead. Where I take issue with Gibbon is that he doesn't give Byzantium its due, from how far I got into the later volumes: had Constantinople not stayed upright through the centuries, there's no way Europe would have been able to recover before the caliphate came a'knocking, no matter how many Charles Martel's sprung up. Anyway, I suppose you could say that Christianity helped exacerbate the fall, but it also mitigated the results.)

    I understand that most editions of Gibbon’s book exclude or heavily edit the footnotes, which are where he makes his most critical comments about Christianity.

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  234. @Anon
    No, Medicare reimbursements are pathetic.
    A Dr told me it’s about 10 percent of the cost. The fact that so many are on Medicare and Medicaid is the reason the cost of medical care is so high. The non Medicare Medicaid patients are charged enough to keep the whole thing going.

    Look at it this way. There is a 6 unit apartment house. It costs 6,000 a month to pay mortgage. Property tax utilities regular maintainence and the major maintenance saving account.

    But the government places people in 3 apartments and pays their rent. But the government only pays $20o a month rent for each of those apartments.

    So the landlord has to raise the rent of the 3 other apartment to $1,800 to get
    $5,400 to keep the place going

    Then think of the ERs in black neighborhoods dealing with the gun knife and beatings wounds, child abuse druggie drunk problems and the expenses caused by Black behavior

    A lot of those patients aren’t covered by Medicare Medicaid . Most states have a reimbursement program for victim of crime medical costs but it is a cumbersome cumbersome process

    Plus, Medicare Medicaid is very very slow to pay like 2 years.

    Then there is the clerical and sometimes legal cost of pursuing the Billings.

    You forgot to mention the fraudulent billing for services never even provided, almost universally by Jewish, Vietnamese, Hindoo, Chinese, and otherwise parasitic, invasive physicians, along with the costs for qui tam actions and related efforts to address the ones who are actually caught….

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  235. @Brutusale
    Tin Duncan, Russell Wilson, Terrence Howard, Taye Diggs, Sidney Poitier, Seal, Richard Pryor, Quincy Jones, Michael Jordan, Lamar Odom (to a Kardashian, but a bunch of these "white" wives are Jewish, so I'm counting it), Kanye West (see previous comment), James Earl Jones, Harold Perrineau, Donald Faison, Charles Barkley, Cuba Gooding, Bryant Gumbal, etc....

    As Howard Stern famously said, how else does a black man know he's made it?

    Lionel Richie

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  236. @res
    Interesting conclusion:

    Blacks and Hispanics die of similar causes but cost significantly more than Whites in the last 6 months of life. Although 40 to 60% of these excess differences are associated with geography, that is, living in high-medical-expenditure areas, substantial differences remain, even after adjusting for many patient characteristics in addition to where people live. Strikingly higher rates of use of intensive end-of-life treatments such as ICU and ventilators account for most of these residual differences. Thus, at life's end, minorities often receive more expensive, but not necessarily life-enhancing care. It is unclear how much of this was actively sought, or the extent to which racial and ethnic differences are principally driven by how choices are presented or how they are “heard.” These would be fruitful questions for future research.
     

    N.B. the quotation marks to exculpate mud people of any agency. They don’t misunderstand or make stupid, wasteful decisions. Nope. Communications are heard (by whom?!) in some inexplicably different way when it comes to mud people….

    Also, as always, “Hispanic” is being used incorrectly as a synonym for “mestizo and Amerindian” with their relatively low intelligence – I assure you people like Penelope Cruz, Sofia Vergara, and my wife are not the hispanaphones wasting money to keep goners on ventilators for months and months.

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  237. @Security

    Maybe Cincinnati or Indianapolis gentrifiers are having success in whitening inner cities, but in Atlanta, once you go black, you never go back.
     
    On the contrary, if you’re in Atlanta, ya'll better BACK IT UP!!!:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eqxaP4t9gEc

    The behaviour of the spawn, emulating the parents and approved and encouraged by them, is all the explanation ever needed for the Negro antisocial horror show. It’s not a damned thing to do with racism.

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  238. @AndrewR
    Lead the charge.

    Lol

    Lead the charge.

    Too old for that crap.  Strategy and logistics, now, there’s a job I can still do.

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  239. JSM says:
    @Anon
    No, Medicare reimbursements are pathetic.
    A Dr told me it’s about 10 percent of the cost. The fact that so many are on Medicare and Medicaid is the reason the cost of medical care is so high. The non Medicare Medicaid patients are charged enough to keep the whole thing going.

    Look at it this way. There is a 6 unit apartment house. It costs 6,000 a month to pay mortgage. Property tax utilities regular maintainence and the major maintenance saving account.

    But the government places people in 3 apartments and pays their rent. But the government only pays $20o a month rent for each of those apartments.

    So the landlord has to raise the rent of the 3 other apartment to $1,800 to get
    $5,400 to keep the place going

    Then think of the ERs in black neighborhoods dealing with the gun knife and beatings wounds, child abuse druggie drunk problems and the expenses caused by Black behavior

    A lot of those patients aren’t covered by Medicare Medicaid . Most states have a reimbursement program for victim of crime medical costs but it is a cumbersome cumbersome process

    Plus, Medicare Medicaid is very very slow to pay like 2 years.

    Then there is the clerical and sometimes legal cost of pursuing the Billings.

    No, Medicare reimbursements are pathetic.
    A Dr told me it’s about 10 percent of the cost
    .

    You’ll forgive me for letting my skepticism about THAT assertion show.

    Little story: My local hospital (supported by the County), being a monopoly, for years and years gave pretty crappy hospital experiences. Never enough nurses, ER waits hours long, ugly interiors in the patient rooms, etc. The excuse they used, they’d whine that it’s because Medicare doesn’t reimburse enough, why, indeed, you know, they actually LOST money anytime they’d take a Medicare patient! But of course, out of their humanitarian mission, why, the very goodness of their hearts (and County funding) that they’d continue to do so, anyway, oh heavy sigh.

    ….So, one day the hospital got in a catfight with a local surgeon, who huffed off and opened his own hospital. When it opened, we were all astonished. Plenty of nurses, who, being well-treated themselves, were nicer to the patients, ER waits of sometimes a mere 45 minutes, and you could call ahead and find out what the current ER wait is, and lovely private patient rooms. Plus, free meals for the patient’s Significant Other. And, yes, they DO take Medicare!

    So… a few months later, here comes the Op-Ed from the County-funded hospital, how “Crisis!! The County hospital is about to go broke and maybe have to, gasp, CLOSE (or some shit) because…because… the physician-owned one is STEALING all their Medicare patients!!”

    Ok, I admit, I can be gullible fer sher, but something here don’t quite jibe. First you tell us, County hospital, that you LOSE money on Medicare patients; in fact you used that song-and-dance as your excuse for crappy care for almost two decades. I should think that the physician-owned hospital, taking those losers off your hands would be a relief. But, NOW you’re whining that you’re about to go broke due to the new hospital is stealing your Medicare patients?! What gives? Which IS it? Bullshit from start to finish, maybe?

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  240. jim jones says:

    The movie Apocalypto gives valuable insight into the South American mind:

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  241. Anonymous[506] • Disclaimer says:
    @CCZ
    But authentic local Kenyan cuisine uses electric power transformer oil for cooking and deep frying.

    https://www.thedailymeal.com/thieves-kenya-steal-electrical-transformer-oil-cooking/122814

    Unfortunately, Askarel was banned decades ago. If they ate food cooked in that stuff once, the problem would stop immediately.

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  242. Dr. Doom says:

    In a mysterious turn of events, blacks that were allowed to do what they want and live the way their ancestors would like have seen huge drops in life expectancy. Eschewing Western standards and pursuing economic policies like lottery tickets and drug dealing, blacks are somehow falling behind every biped on Earth. “Its almost as though the rules and standards of the West have something to do with quality of life issues.”, said a disingenuous member of the chattering classes. Most blacks see productive work, thrift, having stable relationships and avoiding illegal drugs as “acting White”.
    “We have no idea why promiscuity, drug abuse, criminal behavior and violence can end badly for so many blacks.”, said Reverend Doctor Lawyer Moe Money B. Needed. However, most media outlets blame White racism and a guy who died in an underground bunker in 1945. The Rich are now building underground bunkers in an attempt to stop White racism from ruining their lives.
    The Federal Government is now expected to rack up about 2.5 Trillion Dollars in debt this next fiscal year. This has led to reports of close to 2 Trillion added to the GDP report. The US Congress says that with more tax cuts and more debt, they can keep their cushy no-work jobs in air conditioned offices with money for hookers and booze. “This is a completely legitimate form of government.”, said a member of Congress on condition of anonymity. The US Congress is expected to screw someone, and they claim the taxpayers are just asking for it.

    This is Kermit J. Frog, reporting for SWAMP NEWS.

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  243. @Dmitry
    Olga Khazan is an Israeli-American I guess? (American with a Russian personal name combined with such a Jewish surname - Хазан).

    We were discussing on the Anatoly Karlin blog earlier this week, her video about why Americans smile so much .

    She has interesting data and ideas, but she cannot explain anything and ends the video weakly.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojbJrdkPhGg

    She has a point. Most American smiles are as a fake as a $3 bill. It’s not a terrible thing, but it reduces one of the most basic human emotions to a business transaction.

    The two things that always hit me first when I go overseas are “Where are the fat people?” and “Why isn’t anyone smiling at me?”

    The bottom line is that American business decided that smiles sell burgers, clothes, and whatever else. Therefore, their employees are going to smile, and then people start marketing themselves and their “brand” by smiling more in public.

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  244. Brutusale says:
    @Thomm
    Only the following from your list are as famous as the list of white men I originally listed :

    Sidney Poitier
    Seal
    Richard Pryor
    Quincy Jones
    James Earl Jones
    Cuba Gooding
    Bryant Gumbel
    Charles Barkley
    Michael Jordan (Hispanic, so debatable)

    So this list is about nine, which is about the same length as the list of white men marrying black women (updated to include Boris Becker). Plus, someone like Richard Pryor who married 7 times obviously married both black and white (and divorced both).

    So my point stands. WM-BW and BM-WW are equal in frequency if the man is famous. There is no overwhelming bias of BM-WW relative to the other way around.

    Desi, your ignorance of “popular” Americans comes as no surprise.

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  245. Brutusale says:
    @Forbes
    Presumably, it's Medicaid, not Medicare (for senior citizens)--but the point of gov't reimbursement remains.

    And while the gov't reimbursement rate is what it is--that means private insurance is making up for the perceived shortfall. And yet, the low stated reimbursement rate doesn't appear to affect the 6-figure salaries of anyone--nor the half-million plus most surgeons earn.

    We'll know it's a crisis when physicians and hospital workers start comparing their pay to the same countries that the single-payer/universal healthcare advocates compare to the US.

    Talk to any honest medical professional about the differences between what Medicaid/Medicare patients are billed compared to the patients with private insurance. Which is why the insurance industry’s default on almost any initial claim is no.

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  246. Apparently in Cuba, in spite of the rum, there is hardly any difference in life expectancy between whites and blacks and the overall average life expectancy is HIGHER than in the US.

    https://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/17/a-lesson-from-cuba-on-race/

    The moral is that obviously length of life is less important than quality of life, and that one year of living under Fortune 500 hegemony with air-conditioning and an icemaker in the fridge is worth a lifetime of sweating all summer under communism.

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  247. @res
    Interesting conclusion:

    Blacks and Hispanics die of similar causes but cost significantly more than Whites in the last 6 months of life. Although 40 to 60% of these excess differences are associated with geography, that is, living in high-medical-expenditure areas, substantial differences remain, even after adjusting for many patient characteristics in addition to where people live. Strikingly higher rates of use of intensive end-of-life treatments such as ICU and ventilators account for most of these residual differences. Thus, at life's end, minorities often receive more expensive, but not necessarily life-enhancing care. It is unclear how much of this was actively sought, or the extent to which racial and ethnic differences are principally driven by how choices are presented or how they are “heard.” These would be fruitful questions for future research.
     

    Thus, at life’s end, minorities often receive more expensive, but not necessarily life-enhancing care. It is unclear how much of this was actively sought, or the extent to which racial and ethnic differences are principally driven by how choices are presented or how they are “heard.”

    In my personal experience, black people are much less likely to want to sign DNR orders for their family members and tend to hope for a miracle even when their family member is in a vegetative state. Part of this may be due to religious beliefs, or some kind of guilt.

    Of course the Terry Schiavo parents and some Republican politicians exhibited the same kind of thinking, so it is not just a racial thing, but perhaps more predominant among blacks.

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  248. Brutusale says:
    @Anon
    No, Medicare reimbursements are pathetic.
    A Dr told me it’s about 10 percent of the cost. The fact that so many are on Medicare and Medicaid is the reason the cost of medical care is so high. The non Medicare Medicaid patients are charged enough to keep the whole thing going.

    Look at it this way. There is a 6 unit apartment house. It costs 6,000 a month to pay mortgage. Property tax utilities regular maintainence and the major maintenance saving account.

    But the government places people in 3 apartments and pays their rent. But the government only pays $20o a month rent for each of those apartments.

    So the landlord has to raise the rent of the 3 other apartment to $1,800 to get
    $5,400 to keep the place going

    Then think of the ERs in black neighborhoods dealing with the gun knife and beatings wounds, child abuse druggie drunk problems and the expenses caused by Black behavior

    A lot of those patients aren’t covered by Medicare Medicaid . Most states have a reimbursement program for victim of crime medical costs but it is a cumbersome cumbersome process

    Plus, Medicare Medicaid is very very slow to pay like 2 years.

    Then there is the clerical and sometimes legal cost of pursuing the Billings.

    I don’t know where you live, but in Massachusetts we’ve got Section 8 housing vouchers in the $1,400-1,800 range, according to a friend in property management.

    The other problem urban hospitals have is that, because all the medical personnel are white and Asian, the clerical staff is mostly black/Hispanic, leading to the attendant coding errors that delay or negate prompt payments.

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  249. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Immigrants, the human wall between urban yuppies and blacks.

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  250. Flip says:
    @Anon
    What's stellar about its location?

    Part of the greater Washington metro area, close to Philadelphia and New York and the rest of the eastern seaboard, with a great harbor.

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  251. @Ibound1
    The food choices made in the inner city - sugary, processed, fat, fast food - cannot be overcome by moving anyone anywhere. They are the same choices Theodore Dalrymple notes are made by the English underclass with the exact same results: obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure. Cutting out food stamps and payments and replacing them with canteens where the poor are given a healthy meal for a minimal payment (as is done in India) might help. But it will never be done.

    “They are the same choices Theodore Dalrymple notes are made by the English underclass with the exact same results: obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure”

    By strange chance UK TV is showing a reality show where 8 people are trying to lose weight because they have Type 2 diabetes. The 8 are – 7 white, one black – but pretty much all the nice helpful medics – from the dreadlocked professor of medicine to the pretty dreadlocked nurses – are black or Asian.

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  252. @Charles Pewitt
    Connecticut Blacks are on the march into your nice White towns in Connecticut. Obama tried to do the same thing to baby boomer hypocrite Hillary Clinton in Chappaqua, New York. Hillary Clinton moved to Chappaqua to avoid Blacks, and Obama tried to stuff Blacks into Chappaqua to piss her off. Is Obama that petty and vindictive? Yes. Obama learned the Black underclass housing transfer game from the Pritzker's in Chicago.

    Connecticut Puritans settled Newark, New Jersey.

    Blacks are thick on the ground in Newark.

    Chris Christie was born in Newark. Now Christie lives far away from Newark in a nice White town. Watch the new Leprechaun governor of New Jersey move the Newark Blacks to Chris Christie's nice White town.

    Christie is a fat slob coward baby boomer. I enjoyed going after him at a presidential primary town hall meeting in NH. I would rhetorically rip Christie's substantial guts out in a 4 hour debate on immigration, trade, foreign policy and standing up for White Core American interests.

    All the nonsense ends when the interest rates start to rise.

    Demography and Debt -- Mass Immigration and Monetary Extremism

    Obama tried to do the same thing to baby boomer hypocrite Hillary Clinton in Chappaqua, New York. Hillary Clinton moved to Chappaqua to avoid Blacks, and Obama tried to stuff Blacks into Chappaqua to piss her off.

    Chappaqua is a Democratic city village hamlet, so they have it coming good and hard. No tears for Hillary’s neighbors.

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  253. Anon[368] • Disclaimer says:
    @Autochthon

    Olga Khazan was named in the list of 10 Best Science Writers of 2014 by Real Clear Policy.
     
    Being as she cannot seem to understand obesity is almost entirely preventable and self-inflicted (absent a few vanishingly rare metabolic disorders), she sure as Hell is wiggling it for somebody.

    A third of Americans are obese and a third are overweight, per BMI. I don’t think any of those people do not want to lose weight.

    After reading Pinker’s Blank Slate, my feelings on obesity have evolved.

    she cannot seem to understand obesity is entirely preventable and self-inflicted

    How is it preventable? You just stop eating? What if you have a compulsion to eat? Just use will power? What is will power? Where does it come from? Do you control your will power? Who are you?

    Pinker talks about the leftist falacy of the ghost in the machine, and I think that applies to popular opinion about obesity among both leftists and conservatives. There is this idea that there is a separate, completely rational “you” driving your body. In fact “you” is your body. It is nothing more than the sum of all the organic goop that makes up your body. There is no soul, no ghost in the machine. You are your genes, expressed in your environment, and there is no changing of that. The genes of people doom them to be fat just as much as your genes doom you to make snarky comments about fat people. You can’t not do it, there is no logic that will change your opinion, just as fat people can’t not overeat.

    Will power is present or absent in each person to the extent that their genes give it to them, and it varies epigenetically by their current environment and the extent to which it is obesigenic. You can see weight creeping up in other countries around the world, countries that have ridiculed the fatties in the U.S., as their environments become more obesigenic.

    Obesigenic means that you may have sufficient will power to avoid that snack if you are attending school in 1980, you have to eat the food and the portions the school gives you, there are no vending machines on campus, and you cannot leave campus. And so on for other contexts. In 2018 the environment is different, and a certain percentage of people be fat now that would not have been fat in 1980 because they have will power sufficient only for a world that no longer exists.

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    '...The genes of people doom them to be fat just as much as your genes doom you to make snarky comments about fat people...'

    No, that's not really so. I gain weight very easily, and in fact, at the moment could stand to lose a good sixty pounds. On the other hand, I once lost those pounds and maintained a good weight for twenty years or so.

    It's perfectly possible for anyone to lose weight -- just a lot harder for some than others. However, take in fewer calories than you burn, and you'll lose weight. I promise.
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  254. @Half Canadian
    I tried reading the article, and it was just a series of problems that this lady had created for herself.
    Did segregation make her obese? Of course not.
    Did it make her an alcoholic? I could concede some responsibility, if I'm generous, but only a sliver.
    Did it give her diabetes and sleep apnea? See obesity.

    Same with crime. It is reductionist in the extreme to look at the problems in black America today and say "Because: Racism".

    ‘…Same with crime. It is reductionist in the extreme to look at the problems in black America today and say “Because: Racism”.’

    Ever notice that there is no such thing as a functional black society — anywhere? Regardless of the circumstances?

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    In the words of the great M G Miles:

    "On Planet Earth, Afro crime is high. Period. It is high in their homeland, Africa. It is high in countries to which they migrate that were colonizers. It is high in countries to which they migrate that were not colonizers. It is high in countries to which they migrate that were slavers. It is high in countries to which they migrate that were not slavers. It is high nearly everywhere they are found on this third rock from the sun. Idang Alibi, a Nigerian journalist, states it plainly:


    Anywhere in the world today where you have a concentration of black people among other races, the poorest, the least educated, the least achieving, and the most violent group among those races will be the blacks. When indices of underdevelopment are given, black people and countries are sure to occupy the bottom of the ladder.

    God himself must be frustrated with his black children. They must be an embarrassment to him. He has given us everything he has given to other of his children; why are his black children not manifesting their own gift?
     

    Afro crime is very high relative to other groups. This is why we profile."


    The full essay:
    http://thosewhocansee.blogspot.com/2013/08/why-we-profile.html

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  255. @Anon
    A third of Americans are obese and a third are overweight, per BMI. I don't think any of those people do not want to lose weight.

    After reading Pinker's Blank Slate, my feelings on obesity have evolved.


    she cannot seem to understand obesity is entirely preventable and self-inflicted
     
    How is it preventable? You just stop eating? What if you have a compulsion to eat? Just use will power? What is will power? Where does it come from? Do you control your will power? Who are you?

    Pinker talks about the leftist falacy of the ghost in the machine, and I think that applies to popular opinion about obesity among both leftists and conservatives. There is this idea that there is a separate, completely rational "you" driving your body. In fact "you" is your body. It is nothing more than the sum of all the organic goop that makes up your body. There is no soul, no ghost in the machine. You are your genes, expressed in your environment, and there is no changing of that. The genes of people doom them to be fat just as much as your genes doom you to make snarky comments about fat people. You can't not do it, there is no logic that will change your opinion, just as fat people can't not overeat.

    Will power is present or absent in each person to the extent that their genes give it to them, and it varies epigenetically by their current environment and the extent to which it is obesigenic. You can see weight creeping up in other countries around the world, countries that have ridiculed the fatties in the U.S., as their environments become more obesigenic.

    Obesigenic means that you may have sufficient will power to avoid that snack if you are attending school in 1980, you have to eat the food and the portions the school gives you, there are no vending machines on campus, and you cannot leave campus. And so on for other contexts. In 2018 the environment is different, and a certain percentage of people be fat now that would not have been fat in 1980 because they have will power sufficient only for a world that no longer exists.

    ‘…The genes of people doom them to be fat just as much as your genes doom you to make snarky comments about fat people…’

    No, that’s not really so. I gain weight very easily, and in fact, at the moment could stand to lose a good sixty pounds. On the other hand, I once lost those pounds and maintained a good weight for twenty years or so.

    It’s perfectly possible for anyone to lose weight — just a lot harder for some than others. However, take in fewer calories than you burn, and you’ll lose weight. I promise.

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  256. MBlanc46 says:
    @syonredux

    a nation-wide version of the “one Black family per block” policy would be highly beneficial

    Not to Whites. Access to White people is not a human right.
     
    Alternative idea: make Alabama and Mississippi independent Black nation-states. Engage in population exchanges (all non-Blacks leave MS and AL and all Blacks leave the USA).

    Of course, if my first idea was a pipe dream, this one is pure cloudcuckooland.....

    A black homeland of some sort is probably the best approach.

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  257. MBlanc46 says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    These people should stop their nonsense. Blacks actually like to be with other blacks, it is that simple. Maybe they would like better neighborhoods, but they would still prefer those neighborhoods to be black. They also like black schools, black teachers, black lawyers and doctors and black government and community leaders. Writers for the Atlantic could save time and ink and just ask.

    Absolutely. Blacks also want to segregate within the race by class, just as whites do.

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  258. Anonymous[421] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    These people should stop their nonsense. Blacks actually like to be with other blacks, it is that simple. Maybe they would like better neighborhoods, but they would still prefer those neighborhoods to be black. They also like black schools, black teachers, black lawyers and doctors and black government and community leaders. Writers for the Atlantic could save time and ink and just ask.

    Common sense. Blacks like black neighborhoods, even with all their problems (which they may not even see as problems.)

    “Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.”

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  259. Ragno says:

    Isn’t this just AFFH by another name? And isn’t AFFH the fait-accompli time bomb Obama left ticking for us on his way out the door?

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  260. Ragno says:
    @Colin Wright
    '...Same with crime. It is reductionist in the extreme to look at the problems in black America today and say “Because: Racism”.'

    Ever notice that there is no such thing as a functional black society -- anywhere? Regardless of the circumstances?

    In the words of the great M G Miles:

    “On Planet Earth, Afro crime is high. Period. It is high in their homeland, Africa. It is high in countries to which they migrate that were colonizers. It is high in countries to which they migrate that were not colonizers. It is high in countries to which they migrate that were slavers. It is high in countries to which they migrate that were not slavers. It is high nearly everywhere they are found on this third rock from the sun. Idang Alibi, a Nigerian journalist, states it plainly:

    Anywhere in the world today where you have a concentration of black people among other races, the poorest, the least educated, the least achieving, and the most violent group among those races will be the blacks. When indices of underdevelopment are given, black people and countries are sure to occupy the bottom of the ladder.

    God himself must be frustrated with his black children. They must be an embarrassment to him. He has given us everything he has given to other of his children; why are his black children not manifesting their own gift?

    Afro crime is very high relative to other groups. This is why we profile.

    The full essay:

    http://thosewhocansee.blogspot.com/2013/08/why-we-profile.html

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  261. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Which also means that I shouldn't have to pay for other whites' stupidity.

    Anyway, the whole discussion of "rights" is quickly losing its meaning. Enlightenment ideals can only be implemented after securing your territory and establishing a homogeneous society. Ask Native Americans about how the Magna Carta or the Constitution protected their rights as settlers moved into their lands.

    Blacks have no right to live next to me. I don't care a whit whether their ancestors were brought over on a slave ship or arrived last year on an airplane. Who cares. Are they my people? No. Then I don't want to live with them. I want to be among my own.

    There's such a beauty and simplicity to ethnic nationalism. Are you my people? No or Yes. If no, you can't emigrate to our country (or live in our neighborhood). If yes, then you are welcome. No hatred. I don't hate people outside of my tribe; indeed, I wish you well - just not here. This is our land, for our people.

    I don't know the future of the United States (probably some kind of Brazil), but I do know that it will always be fighting against the natural logic of ethnic nationalism. People are happiest living among their own and being governed by their own. Preventing that from happening will be a constant battle for this society, a bit like holding something over your head. You can do it for awhile, but at some point, you have to put it down.

    “Blacks have no right to live next to me.”

    Actually, they do. If your neighbor sells their home to a black family, that is the liberty of your neighbor. Or, if the person across the street chooses to rent their home to non-whites, that is their liberty. Freedom of association, right?

    “I want to be among my own.”

    And what about your neighbors? If they are white, and want to live among non-whites, do they not have that freedom?

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