We must submit to this “Bronze Age Pervert.”

LOL! Moldbug’s got attitude.

I overheard someone that Svigor is influencing Trump through brain waves. He might influence Rosie Gray as well. I propose Rosie wears a tinfoil hat for protection against this.

Someone pretending to be Mencius?

Sensible chuckle.

What I think would be really interesting is if Whiskey were the hidden figure writing the playbook.

I was wondering why Justin Raimondo was tweeting someone called Bronze Age Pervert. I have no idea anymore whether the media know the difference between fact and fiction, satiricism and truth. They really are finished, and the cash flow statements don’t lie.

“Apparently there’s a big underground movement of right-wing bodybuilders — thousands. Their plan is to surface spectacularly this April, in a choreographed flash demo on the Mall. They’ll be totally nude, but wearing MAGA hats. Goal is to intimidate Congress with pure masculine show of youth, energy. Trump is said to know, will coordinate with powerful EOs…”

Hilarious.

You too?!

It’s hilarious how pedantic and ill at ease some journalists come across when they wade into the deep end of the Internet. “His avatar was a tanned, muscular surfer, and the biography referenced nude males and steppes…”

Once on Twitter, I replied to a journalist who seemed genuinely perplexed and angry that I could show up in his timeline. “What are you doing, sir? I was talking to my colleague in the next cubicle!”

Behind the Internet’s Anti-Democracy Movement

Sounds promising. I mean, it’s about time the MSM started talking about how SJWs have declared war on freedom of assembly…..

White House chief strategist Steve Bannon is reportedly a reader of neoreactionary political theory. A tour through the pro-authoritarian philosophy gaining visibility on the right.

…..except that they’re just not interested in investigating the Left’s increasing illiberalism…..

Since @kantbot2000 is quoted extensively in the article, I thought I’d share what I think is the best bit of video from the 2016 election:

Nah, it’s definitely his voice.

How does she write an article about NRx without referencing HBD? I get it was primarily about NRx as anti-democracy but it is anti-demo to a certain extent because of HBD.

Weird.

Steve, this is a product of BAP, Hakan, and one more friend of ours. It is canon and you need to insert this into the entry above.

http://pieurheimat.ytmnd.com/

Personally, unlike Mencius, that neoreactionary arriviste, I don’t waste my time communicating with Bannon.

Hmmm….

In one Apprentice episode(and possibly his books), Trump says to never waste time negotiating with underlings, and to go straight to the guy at the top.

Ha ha ha ha h aha…the federal court of appeals has just sustained judge Robart’s repeal of Trump’s Travel and Immigration Executive Order. Ooooooh…I am so happy Get bent, conservatives!The big irony of this situation is that even a conservative judge nomeated by George W.Bush considers Trump to be a buffoon.

Trump is an illegitimate president who lost the popular vote. And it’s not like he lost by a small margin. He actually lost by more than a million votes. In all democracies, the only thing that matters is the popular vote. One person, one vote. Only America has this anomaly called the electoral college.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Trump’s presidency is going to be a war. If it were only the liberals that were all against him, it would be one thing. But even a large part of Republicans find him and his ideas deplorable as well. President Bush Senior has already stated that Trump does not have the character or emotional maturity to be President of the U.S. Even a staunch conservative, a war hero at that, finds Trump repulsive. Add to that that he lost the popular vote, and his Presidency is going to be a war.

I am making a prediction: Trump will not be able to implement more than 90% of what he promised durin ghis campaign. Most of his promises will be vetoed by both liberal and conservative judges, and the Republican Congress itself will not give him clout most of the time because he is seen as too radical on some issues, and too soft on other issues that are dear to Republicans.

Trump’s Presidency will implode. He will either get impeached or resign. Even if he finishes his term, which I find unlikey, he won’t win relection fraudulently like he did this time.

Restricting immigration is simply unacceptable, and it is time for Sailer and his minions to accept this. America was built by immigrants. Every American citizen except for Native Americans is the descendant of immigrants. Sailer himself is the descendant of immigrants.

Under the heading “Moldbug the Comedian” here for the curious are some apercus of his I recently copied from a comment thread on another blog:

Even Trump 20 years younger might be something different. But really he’s this strange, amazing, wonderful creature from the ’50s. Honestly, I think you should just relax and enjoy the show.

But actually, politics provides positive utility in the neurological sense. It stimulates dopamine secretion — like sports, gambling, porn, etc.

And don’t fear! Once you cut yourself off from the artificial stimulant of public politics — realizing that you don’t give a shit except to regret the predictable screwups, and also that anything real which might happen will be an unusual accident — you’ll start sleeping much better at night. After a month or two, you may even be able to see the drab, mundane, real political world in color.

But burning down the world with “freedom and democracy” is the State Department’s job.

Once you learn to believe in the past, you are never alone.

My children learned somewhere that Japan has free-range children. My 8 year old, I kid you not, was like: “If you wanted groceries, you could just send me to the store! I could go on the subway!” She said this like she was imagining conditions on Mars.

the rational purpose of politics is to produce a one-time pulse of energy, which switches sovereignty from the current nondemocratic regime to a different, but better-organized, nondemocratic regime.

force is not a synonym for violence, but the opposite of violence.

As for free speech in democracy, if we include all systems claiming to be democracies, it has a very poor record. Even if we look only at ours… have you been outside lately?

As a good Enlightenment liberal, I am interested in all infringements on my liberties, whether or not they are implemented directly by men in blue. Should I treat official or unofficial assaults on my rights differently? If I do, that’s just a great incentive for tyranny to get its job done indirectly.

Power corrupts science. Do you really, actually, think there are 1000 negative effects of a global temperature increase, for every 1 positive effect? But there are a thousand negative effects published for every positive effect published. Obviously I’m pulling this number out of my ass, but you know what I mean.

It would be foolish for me to utterly discount coordinated mass wishing as a political mechanism. It has made things happen. If not always good things. But is it ridiculous to hope that we could do better?

I think a system of government predicated on the foundation that Democrat-Americans shall be master over Republican-Americans (which is basically the system we have today, believe it or not), is absolutely awful. I also think the converse is absolutely awful, although at the moment it would certainly be a refreshing change.

We really need to stop pretending it’s a battle of abstract ideas, and you win if your ideas are consistent and the other side is proved a hypocrite. It’s not an argument, it’s just a cold civil war.

Call me back when I start a civil war in Libya and Syria, and kill half a million people.

Remember Samantha Power and R2P? Where were you when this happened? I’m guessing one of us was cheering the “Arab Spring.” It wasn’t me.

And that’s only taking it back half a decade! Honey, I’m not even starting! Do you see how it’s hard for me to be super appalled if the Trump administration screws up some peoples’ travel plans, or even their careers? In the insane world we live in today?

The Japanese and Chinese have zero tolerance for crime, as we have zero tolerance for nuclear radiation leaks. They come to our cities and think we’re completely fucking insane. As we are.

In short: come to the dark side! We have cookies. And a library.

Nickie, it’s decisions like this one from the 9th Circus, as they say, that will win Trump the electors AND popular vote in 4 years.

Keep diggin.’

Hmm.

I’d worry about Fight Club.

Life imitating art, big time. Great People. Fight Club.

You could have no HBD and NrX would still be anti-democracy. Even in a world of equals, so as long as individuals have low time preference and groupthink destroys good ideas, NrX will find demotist concepts hollow.

You live in an amazing bubble. Its so adorable.

Your perfect world, if it existed, would swiftly implode. Those benefits and unpaid pensions don’t come from thin air, dude. Its hilarious to imagine a socialism spending other people’s money AND with an infinite population to service, to boot!

The Black, Jewish BDSM Masters wish they could counterprotest the Gay Nazi Bodybuilders, but they’re too pussywhipped by their harems of Pregnant Nice White Ladies.

I believe so called “Native Americans” are invaders from Siberia

Oh, I forgot Moldbug’s funniest comment of all:

If Trump or any President can essentially change the quasi-legal form of government, perhaps acting in a Jacksonian way, that would be a true auto-coup in the Alberto Fujimori tradition. He would have no choice but to continue across the Rubicon, and simply govern by EO indefinitely. Perhaps this would come after some kind of enabling legislation. Perhaps it would just mean ignoring Congress, which after all has a popularity of 10% and consists of a collection of crooks, flacks and hacks with the collective charisma of a senile banana slug. It might even mean defying the much more attractively-dressed judicial branch. Whose popularity is much higher, surpassing that of investment bankers and approaching the common raccoon.

A Mencken for our time? Here’s the link: http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3167#comment-1731849

Nick, I notice when we hear from you we don’t hear from Tiny Duck and vice versa. And you know , 10 % of what trump promised is way better than 90% of what Hillary was promising. And get your talking points straight before you lose the black voting bloc, everyone knows America was build on the backs of slaves, not immigrants. I’m 70 and hell my parents owned some and they did all the work around our house.

Luke Lea: would you provide URLs for the stuff attributed to Moldbug?

“For a group of people whose writings tend towards the verbose”

“when I reached out to ask ”

Pot/kettle much Rosie?

Yes, Moldbug is in very fine form on that comment thread on Scott Aaronson’s blog (posting as “Boldmug”). He even trash-talks the host and the other commenters for not laying a glove on him. It’s hilarious how they can only ineffectually misrepresent him in order to look like they are scoring any points. There are very few writers about whom, when I hear of a concerted attack by the Hive against them, I think “he doesn’t need my advice, he can take care of himself just fine”, but Moldbug is one of them. Heartiste is another.

It’s almost (almost!) pathetic that the writer reports on her getting trolled. In fact, it’s laughable, it’s ROTFF laughable. Yet it’s reported as straight news. The prog-left has truly lost its mind.

Someone get Rosie Grey a vowel, cuz she needs a clue.

I would guess that about 60 % of you have heard of Ibn Khaldun and maybe 20% have read any part of his works . But he is on the money about why we are loosing and the m*d people are winning .

This one was funny too. Bannon mentioned Evola once (context not mentioned), ergo he’s a Nazi:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/world/europe/bannon-vatican-julius-evola-fascism.html?_r=0

I once read just out of curiosity the first chapter of “Revolt Against the Modern World”, I guess that makes me a nazi-fascist-racist too?

Before it seemed that all the intellectuals were on the Left, and the Right was anti-intellectual. Now it seems to be the opposite:

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/meet-the-scary-italian-fascist-thinker-approvingly-cited-by-steve-bannon/

We’re working together on some of the new Administration’s highest priority projects, such as:

that’s pretty much my actual policy program

(with the addition of greening the galaxy)

Concluding a Peace Treaty with the Ainu etc? Well, all that’s above my pay grade as Americans would say.

Sending the Bantu back to Cameroon and making peace with the Khoisan?

I could manage that……..

the people who own the media aren’t as averse to anti-democracy as they are to hbd so they’re less anti the neo-reaction part of the alt-right than the rest

+1

In his old incarnation, Moldburg called himself a Jacobin who was wishing for the restoration of the royalty. In this sense his critique was like that of the Marxists – he was really good at explaining why things really suck the way that they are, but what he proposed as a replacement was even worse.

But in other places, he seems to shift to more of a corporatist idea – states should be governed the way corporations are governed, with self-perpetuating boards of directors who select their successors. This is not that far from the scheme in the original constitution where only 1/2 of 1 branch of gov. (house) was directly elected. This strikes me as a little more practical than bringing back royalty.

I do love how he trolls the Atlantic reporter. He’s really hilarious, truly has a 160 IQ and loves to toy with liberals who are 3 SDs below him the way Mohammed Ali used to toy with lesser boxers .

The Atlantic “story” is based upon this quote
“Moldbug, who does not do interviews and could not be reached for this story, has reportedly opened up a line to the White House, communicating with Bannon and his aides through an intermediary, according to a source. ”

A source. LOL

OT: Birth of a Nation is at Redbox for $1.50.

Nah.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Trump’s presidency is going to be a war.

yes

If it were only the liberals that were all against him, it would be one thing. But even a large part of Republicans find him and his ideas deplorable as well.

yes the cheap labor lobby (aka GOPe) is against him and people in prosperous white enclaves who still follishly trust the media are against him

your first point will negate your second point

Robert “4th” Reich is now claiming that the false flag Berkeley rioters were actually the Bronze Age Pervert’s cohort of nude body builders doing a dress rehearsal for the mayhem they plan to unleash nude in Washington DC on April 1st. 4th Reich also claims many of the supposed Trump supporter victims were really crisis actors from Bronze Age Pervert’s all male, fascist, body building gym.

the alt-right is the internet version of Fight Club

http://americandigest.org/sidelines/2017/02/and_now_its_tim.html#comments

You are obviously not black nor do you have any black friends because no authentic African American would agree than he or she is the descendant of immigrants.

Most black Americans are the descendants of slaves –who were most certainly not immigrants.

2017 is happening too fast.

Is Nick Diaz “Tiny Duck” under another name?

I think a mass, nakey-butt flex-in on the Mall would send a immensely powerful message. But I’ll be damned if I know what that message would be.

No squats. No way.

They told me that you had gone totally insane, and that your methods were unsound.

Percy Gryce and the UR Community:

Do you or anybody else have any further details (especially identity) about the star troll of this video?

I agree with you that this was easily the best video of the 2016 campaign.

Surely you meant Jacobite?

Someone once said somewhere that if you haven’t read Moldbug, you don’t understand history. Which is completely true.

Nah, he’s been around a lot longer. And he’s way more interested in back-and-forth debating with the Sailer commentariat than TD is. He’s very similar to Corvinus but I think Occam’s Razor is that they too are different people.

They aren’t adverse to anti-democracy at all, or at least those “in the know” aren’t. They’re anti-democrats themselves. They’ve been trying to replace democracy–which when they badmouth it is called “politics”–with the Managerial State for over a century. That’s the entire point of Progressivism.

Granted, they are of two minds on the subject, to put it mildly. They still need democracy, and are constantly arguing for more of it when it comes to signing up new voters to swamp out their opposition. But of course those voters aren’t supposed to change anything. They’re just to keep out the other gang out of power. The real decisions continue to be made by putative experts.

This is something everyone is told over and over again, but no one seems to remember.

Ha. That was AWESOME!

I believe J. G. Ballard once wrote a short story about a right-wing bodybuilder movement. It was an European movement though. They took over the southern beaches during summertime or something.

Nick, I notice when we hear from you we don’t hear from Tiny Duck and vice versa.

The same thought occurred to me.
It’s nice to know the insane progs need to buttress their numbers with several handles.

That is not nice. Scott should be working on complexity theory and writing a followup to his excellent “Quantum Computing since Democritus” instead of dabbling in The Politics of Panic, where he is definitely out of his depth.

I know nothing concrete. He’s on twitter as @kantbot2000. Somewhere along the line I picked up that he’s a University of Chicago grad–although I may just be projecting my fondness for UC onto him. Two of his comrades also appear in the video (I’ve gathered that they tweet as @ALLCAPSBRO and @380kmh). He traveled in Japan recently. Around New Year’s, he tweeted pictures of his girlfriend’s parents’ library, from which I gather that they’re academics. I haven’t doxxed him any further.

I like this so much, I think, because it reminds me of the intellectual high jinks of my youth: Monty Python, P.D.Q. Bach, AD&D, a regular trivia phone-in competition on public radio (WVXU, I think), time-sharing on the big mainframe computer at the university downtown, etc.

I read A. J. Liebling’s piece about Sonny Liston, does that count?

The work week is over, I have opened a Lagunitas IPA, Crosby’s Clambake is on the TV…And I am browsing @BronzeAgePerv.

Life has reached a point. What that point is I am unsure.

Hakan R.’s tweets are the real deal:

http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21715998-establishing-cause-remains-hazardous-new-research-suggests-effort-work

New research suggests that effort at work is correlated with race

Uncomfortable though the topic may be, the authors have attempted a rigorous analysis. Denunciations came quickly, however. Within hours of publication, Mr Hamermesh received vitriolic messages and was labelled a racist in an online forum popular among economists. Mr Hamermesh, an avowed progressive, who refers to Donald Trump only by amusing nicknames and resigned from a post at the University of Texas over a state law permitting the open carrying of firearms, finds this unfair. He notes that Americans work too much. His preferred solution would not be for some groups to work more, but for others to work less.

Yeah but Diaz is merely a Nexus-6 replicant, whereas Corvinus is a Nexus-7.

Both models fail the Voight-Kampff test, the 7s just take longer.

Is “Bronze Age Pervert” one of the three guys who sired most modern Europeans? If so, we pretty much have to follow his lead….

There is an obvious Bronze Age / Nazi link waiting to be made by The Atlantic. The Hallstatt culture in Austria provided proto-Germanic and practically AfD precursors. There is no doubt some geographic predestination to be identified. I await their next revelation, and shall revel in the comfort of their assiduous approach to all things Atlantian, as well. In the meantime, it is almost beer:30.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallstatt_culture

And you guys laughed when I said us Gay Nazi Bodybuilders were Trump’s Vanguard.

BAP is definitely a top-three account on Twitter.

These “Native Americans,” like the Ainu, are actually lost tribes of wandering Bronze Age Aryans.

(it all fits together if you squint a little)

I have several books about the bronze age I keep meaning to read and only ever dabble in, including a recent one called The Horse, the Wheel, and Language. I find myself relatively uninterested in history prior to the classical age. But if I can go Nazi-hunting, why not? Can’t stop that Fascinatin’ Fascism.

I keep waiting for SNL to do a takeoff on that 80s movie “Cruising” about the cop infiltrating gay leather bars to capture a serial killer. Instead, have some goodthinking SWPL reporter given the assignment to infiltrate the ALTRIGHT. He starts attending gyms full of rightwing guys in leather, and he eventually goes native: lifting weights, trolling his editor with anti-Semitic pepes, going out with his bros to practice picking up women, getting one of those stupid Richard Spencer Hitler youth haircuts from a barber with a picture of Evola on the wall…

Bronze Age physiques, pfft. No Juice back then. Buncha sissies.

What the point of Moldhead on Twitter is, I’ll never understand.

I overheard someone that Svigor is influencing Trump through brain waves. He might influence Rosie Gray as well. I propose Rosie wears a tinfoil hat for protection against this.

No, I have to wear a tinfoil hat to protect myself from Trump’s brainwaves. (You have to know this grapevine)

Ha ha ha ha h aha…the federal court of appeals has just sustained judge Robart’s repeal of Trump’s Travel and Immigration Executive Order. Ooooooh…I am so happy Get bent, conservatives!The big irony of this situation is that even a conservative judge nomeated by George W.Bush considers Trump to be a buffoon.

Nomeated. What are the odds Dick Niaz is a Tiny Dick? 99.5%?

Nick, I notice when we hear from you we don’t hear from Tiny Duck and vice versa.

See? I’m telling you, the spelling thing. Corvy does it too.

Is Nick Diaz “Tiny Duck” under another name?

Now thirded.

The same thought occurred to me.
It’s nice to know the insane progs need to buttress their numbers with several handles.

Now it’s a meme.

Nah. Tiny Duck has a certain…adorable naivete that Mr. Diaz lacks.

“Nick Diaz” is almost a homophonic (not homophobic) anagram of “dick size”. So maybe. But it’s even closer to “nice dick”, so maybe not. Who can solve these pressing problems…? I know! Unz!

Actually, I’d wonder, given Moldbug’s hemi-Semitic pedigree, if at least some of them figure they can come to an accommodation with NRx rather than the other parts of the alt-right.

You could seriously play the alt-right for laughs, what with the Pepes, haircuts, and so on. Of course they would wind up making it look cool, much as Michael Douglas did with Wall Street.

If you read the thing Bannon’s not really an Evola-ite, just saying traditionalism has its plus side. I kind of figured he was mentioning the fascism to show how it could go off the rails–would a Vatican audience be pro-fascist? I had the impression most of the Catholics thought Hitler was trying to replace God with himself but were hoping he’d get rid of the Commies, and now he’s even less popular.

That would explain a great deal….

Now that someone is shining a light on the bodybuilding-fascist-Trump-voter links, I expect the MSM to connect the dots with NNT’s “IYIs don’t deadlift”. Oh, and Dave Pinsen’s Twitter icon is like a neo-nazi icthus. On the upside, once the word gets out, all the social signalers will switch to cardio machines, which should make it easier to get time on the power rack. Trump admin=bigger pulls!!

http://imgur.com/a/5RHVi

The probability of the average clickbait journalist reading a whole Moldbug essay is just slightly above the probability of Donald Trump reading one.

Monty Python, Weird Al Yankovic, Mage: the Ascension, blowing each other away on first person shooters…yeah, some things change, some don’t. (No trivia show.)

True, but it was mentioned in the Vox summary. These guys aren’t going deep into Nick Land’s oeuvre and reading Vox Day on alt-white versus alt-West, but they are going to figure out what ethnic groups everyone belongs to, because Who? Whom?

Forget Evola.

Remember Eva!

Stage a Madonna comeback (different spelling if needed) as Ilsa the wicked Nazi warden in Leather!

(no link provided this time)

Yes, that’s them. The tribe in upstate NY with the golden tablets in the 1840′s. That’s them.

Well, the crusaders nuked the last bastion of Christianity against the Ottoman Empire for purely venal reasons to please The Doge, and there are too many uncomfortable parallels to today.

The best part of Nick’s rant is that he says Trump will only fulfill 90 percent of his campaign promises. Man, that really sucks, now I’m pissed off too. The lyin’ bastard.

I hope it is this one:

https://lagunitas.com/beers/sucks

Percy Gryce:

My sincere thanks for your response to my request.

This is just one more example of the high quality of the UR and its knowledgeable respondents.

I’m not sure if he’s ever used the term Jacobin, but he states pretty frequently that he’s a former (and current, after a fashion) libertarian.

His thesis, which he makes a very persuasive historical argument for, is that weakening the central authority,[1] or impairing its police powers to enforce law and order, will inevitably result in expansion of the state (“red giant states”), as larger bureaucracies are required to enforce laws effectively, and increasingly elaborate systems of in-group patronage and religious-ideological indoctrination are needed, since the ruling coalition must continuously expand to maintain power.

In other words, libertarian ends cannot be achieved by libertarian means, which actually result in the direct opposite.

[1] Transferring powers from the executive to bodies[2] not accountable to (i.e. replaceable by) them.

[2] Legislatures, judges, (in particular) the civil service, subnational bodies and military officers, in cases where they can’t be overruled, replaced and abolished or restructured by the executive.[3] Also, any incentives for the executive other than maximizing the long-term prosperity, safety and living conditions of their subject people.[4]

[3] A manager delegating authority to foremen he can hire and fire doesn’t weaken the executive, but requiring management’s decisions to be approved by union reps does weaken the executive. The previously-unified executive is now split between two bodies, neither of which is formally accountable to the other, and both of which will divert revenue and personnel to lobby employees and external authorities to increase their share of the power.

[4] Personal and immediate family’s safety, Election campaigning, other incentives based on short-term public approval, protecting against a coup, protecting against legal removal from office by institutions with conflicting incentives, systems of patronage, requirements to justify actions within an ideological framework.[5]

[5] Adhere to the constitution, further democracy, maintain heavenly favor, preserve decency, achieve communism, win glorious victories, convert the heathens, throw the Jew down the well, protect the marginalized, save the whales, end capitalism, appease the gods’ thirst for blood…

much money

4crusade

such Constantinople

very Rome

very rich

much Venice

Why were fascists so popular back in 1996 when don’t cry for me Argentina was made? Was it because they had a Democrat in the White House? You know I bet the Schwartz commando of gravity’s rainbow would’ve been very popular during Obama’s reign

Moldbug claims that the solution is Formalism.

(an answer to German Idealism)

;>)

http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/04/formalist-manifesto-originally-posted.html

“The basic idea of formalism is just that the main problem in human affairs is violence. The goal is to design a way for humans to interact, on a planet of remarkably limited size, without violence.”

MSM journos wouldn’t even realize that except in the alternate universe where he’s Chaim Yachimovich. As NOTA says, no way they’re doing anything other than ctrl+f for slavery, Confederate, Nazi and Hitler in his essays. Also, they wouldn’t care; No True Jew could ever support fasracistrumpbannonazislavery.

That is the lowest point in the history of the Crusades, but there are also many high points, like reconquering Jerusalem. I suppose even then, they were a tad too violent once the city fell.

The fall of the Byzantines can mostly be blamed on themselves, as they engaged in constant civil wars, with the weaker or both sides inviting in foreign soldier to fight against their brothers. Much the same way the Western Empire fell.

You see, the people elected Trump. But he’s not the person we want for president. So everything that supported his presidential campaign was anti-democracy.

If Rosie Gray really believes that a man of Steve Bannon’s background, skills, and position might actually feel a need to get advice from a guy whose only talents are writing software and posting endless screeds which conclude that we should reinstate monarchy, then the poor little darling has already been trolled for all she’s worth.

Scott is exactly the same as he was 15 years ago when as a grad student he said he saw absolutely nothing wrong with a command or even entirely centralized economy other than “it would work if people like me were in charge.” He said it without a hint of irony. Completely earnest.

I thought Unz was merging multiple handles from the same person. Where’s the merge of Nick with TD?

Ha ha ha ha. Per CTH:

“The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is now independently, on its own impetus, requesting an internal vote on a full panel en banc hearing to review its own decision.
Additionally, the full ninth are asking the Trump administration to file an additional brief telling the court why the three member original appeals ruling authority was wrong.”

The judge who filed the request for an internal review of the decision turns out to be the Chief Justice of the 9th — ruh roh, somebody’s embarrassed.

Instapundit adds: “Note that even if the court doesn’t go for rehearing, this opens it up for unhappy judges on the 9th who weren’t on the original 3-judge panel to file blistering dissents. Which will be there for the Supreme Court to read if it reviews the panel decision.”

Luke Lea: would you provide URLs for the stuff attributed to Moldbug?

See my second comment above. Search luke

I, for one, welcome our new Bronze Age pervert overlords.

In a Politico article on this same topic, it says Moldbug was skeptical of the Russian hacking theory and implies he influenced the White House on this topic.

My first contact with Moldbug was his writing on gold as “John Law.”

Who knows what info he’s spreading and why!!

At least one person on the internet appears to have taken it seriously…

https://twitter.com/HadleyBishop/status/830216818715291648

https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/5t9oyu/behind_the_internets_antidemocracy_movement/ddl80q3/?context=3

Off topic:

Mayors with bounty hunters

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4213822/The-EU-country-cracked-Muslim-migrants.html

… managing threats to the hive mind (1)

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/08/wikipedia-bans-daily-mail-as-unreliable-source-for-website

… managing threats to the hive mind (2)

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2017/02/how_sensitivity_readers_from_minority_groups_are_changing_the_book_publishing.html

Tocqueville on HBD:

https://medium.com/@CostinAlamariu/was-tocqueville-an-altright-internet-troll-e988de00687d

South America has been unable to maintain democratic institutions…There are no nations upon the face of the earth…more miserable than those of South America… The Federal laws undoubtedly constitute the most important part of the legislation of the United States. Mexico, which is not less fortunately situated than the Anglo-American Union, has adopted these same laws, but is unable to accustom itself to the government of democracy. Some other cause is therefore at work, independently of physical circumstances and peculiar laws, which enables the democracy to rule in the United States.

The same author’s piece on eunuchs is also great:

https://medium.com/@CostinAlamariu/rule-of-the-global-eunuch-88ef02a3e64c

Elena Kagan, an alleged Solomon of our time, may serve as an instructive example of how the cream rises to the top in America’s mandarin age. An obese, unaesthetic spinster, who, as Paul Gottfried has noted, rose to prominence on no significant intellectual achievements or original ideas, (but instead apparently through much political networking), she serves the same function in the American regime that court eunuchs did in Oriental despotisms. Eunuchs, devoid of an identity and posterity of their own, were seen as the perfect loyal functionaries to carry out the will of a centralized bureaucratic tyranny. This is the distillation of “meritocracy,” and the modern total State apparently has plenty of virtual eunuchs to fill out the function in our time — and seems eager to promote many more.

Trump’s renewed communications with Beijing are through a back-channel handled by a shadowy Mormon expat by the name Hang Lee.

It’s a strange to watch the commentariat grapple with Trump, passing strange…

Perverlords?
Pervolords?

Moldy on Twitter, lol. His URLs are longer than 140 characters.

consider the optics

April’s too chilly.

agreed

This troll was not successful.

yeah could be

true but they may have read a synopsis version somewhere

In all democracies, the only thing that matters is the popular vote. One person, one vote. Only America has this anomaly called the electoral college.

You realize that parliamentary districts in the U.K., Canada, Australia, and Germany are like states and lead to the same result often enough? That a party that’s did not win a plurality of the nationwide vote wins a majority of the seats and becomes the governing party? This has happened 3 times each in the past 40 years in each of those countries.

if at first you don’t succeed, try, try again

Nick, this looks like one of your cut and paste jobs. From where did you crib this?

I’m 50 y.o. Based on your nostalgia, I’d guess you’re 10 years younger.

I have no idea anymore whether the media know the difference between fact and fiction, satiricism and truth.

And I have no idea whether my fellow commenters know the difference between satire and satiricism. When in doubt, opt for the shorter word.

The Assassination of Donald John Trump Considered as a Pose-Off at the National Mall

In the post-Obama era a single gesture such as a reverse curl will have more significance than all the dialogue in Girls. Massive sarcoplasmic hypertrophy and abdominal bloating could be induced within half an hour, aided by the application of suitable testosterone derivatives. Convincing definition required careful preparation, and might involve some three to four hours of spray tan. In the postures the bodybuilders assumed, in the contour of thigh and thorax, Moldbug and Trump explored the geometry and volumetric time of Milo’s chiseled jawline, and later the curvilinear expanse of Steve Bannon’s fascist waistline. A gynecomastia-afflicted young bodybuilder with an advanced quad sweep stood in the brilliant pearl light, his posing trunks bathed in the magnified image of Huma Abedin’s mouth.

“Games, Mencius,” Drumpf reassured him. “Next they’ll have you filmed masturbating by an SJW in problem glasses.”

OT: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/10/french-jews-will-have-give-dual-israeli-citizenship-marine-le/

Marine Le Pen proposes banning dual citizenship, except for EU countries (even though she wants to leave the EU), and Russia, which is “part of the Europe of nations.” She singles out the US and (at great length) Israel as examples of nationalities she deems non-European and thus incompatible with French citizenship.

I have no idea how this plays in France, and I don’t really care about French dual citizenship laws, but I’m a bit bemused. First off, seriously? Russia is a culture and society that’s especially compatible with French, as opposed to the US, an especially incompatible culture and society? I guess a little anti-Americanism never hurts in a French election, but come on. Russia is more France-like than Norway, (presumably) the UK, Canada, or Switzerland?

And such a loud dog whistle seems peculiar for a leader who’s made such efforts to change the FN’s antisemitic image that she and her father are no longer on speaking terms. (Also, again, if Russia has enough cultural kinship with France than Israel certainly does).

IMO, a more sensible policy would be banning dual citizenship except with countries with 90-day visa-free travel to metropolitan France, plus Russia and the other ex-Soviet states in Europe, which excludes all Islamic countries except wealthy and non-terror-exporting Brunei, all African countries and any other countries likely to send France substantial numbers of low-quality immigrants, but does include the US and Israel.

The left is trying hard to find out who’s in charge of this alt-right thing, and they’re flailing around like madmen. They have a powerful psychological need to target someone, demonize him as their chief foe and attack him. We could tell the left that no one’s in charge of the alt-right because it’s a democracy of ideas and thinkers, but they won’t accept it.

Is this parody? If so, please try to actually be funny.

If not, I recommend “extreme vetting” by a mental-health professional.

I’ve sampled Moldbug’s writing, and I’d rather not read it either. His meandering prose style makes me go ick. He needs to get straight to the point if he wants to acquire more readers.

Hilarious. I think there’s the distinct possibility that this guy is parodying the Larouche youth. (Assuming he isn’t an actual Larouche youth.) Perhaps Bannon can hire him as a WH outreach to social media. Oh, wait, I guess he’s already hired DJT for that…

The probability of the average clickbait journalist reading a whole Moldbug essay is just slightly above the probability of Donald Trump reading one

Would you consider the possibility that Trump is more successful because he doesn’t read highbrow essays?

Greg Johnson at Counter-Currents is right. It’s always unsympathetic outsiders who insist Moldbug & Friends are a big deal.

More dumb & lazy reporting by @rosiegray. NRx has almost zero influence on #AltRight, #NewRight & #WhiteNationalismhttps://t.co/QP93rwQiYG

— Counter-Currents (@NewRightAmerica) February 10, 2017

Yes, but it’s good for us that he has people who read those essays for him.

Try this : https://www.amazon.com/dp/0300151179/?tag=mh0b-20&hvadid=3523743802&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_2f0yujxrw9_e , not Bronze age , more stone age meets the modern world ca. mid 19th cent. “The Horse, the Wheel, and Language.” was more Razib Khan dense .

Also, again, if Russia has enough cultural kinship with France than Israel certainly does

Russia is historically Christian.

MO, a more sensible policy would be banning dual citizenship except with countries with 90-day visa-free travel to metropolitan France, plus Russia and the other ex-Soviet states in Europe, which excludes all Islamic countries except wealthy and non-terror-exporting Brunei, all African countries and any other countries likely to send France substantial numbers of low-quality immigrants, but does include the US and Israel.

Why not ban all dual citizenship? Please explain why dual citizenship is a good idea.

If dual American-Israeli citizenship is OK, why not dual German or Russian or Chinese-American citizenship?

Don’t forget France has a long history of conflict with England. I could see them wanting to exclude the Anglosphere.

I don’t know why a nationalist would want any dual citizenship, frankly. They’ve had many wars with their neighbors such as Germany.

As for Russia, I know everyone loves him here, but wonder if Putin has a hand in this–wasn’t he giving them money?

I agree with you–France and the USA are a lot closer than France and Russia. (Israel would be pushing it.)

BTW, IHRA’s definition of antisemitism seems a bit broad:
Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
I don’t think they are comparable, but Nazi comparisons are so dime-a-dozen they made an Internet law about them.
Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
I obviously have no objection to the existence of a State of Israel, but the SJW types often make this argument for a one-state solution where the Jews and Pals would live together and eat milk and honey. I think it’s awfully naive, but hardly antisemitic.

He doesn’t want to acquire anyone or anything. He is gloriously free and able to yank the leftists chains because he really doesn’t give a f*ck.

Leftist are always probing for your vulnerability so they can destroy you. Do you have a job that we can get you fired from? Do you crave respect from your peers? Do you seek an academic appointment? Moldbug laughs in their faces.

Yes, although he has trouble sticking to a label.

This is true. Judging by the number of counties Trump won over Hillary, and the strong showing of the GOP in Congress, I’d say a Prime Minister Trump would be able to govern with a comfortable majority under the Westminster system.

No, they’re just confident they can twist the anti-democracy stuff to their purposes more easily than the HBD.

It’s always unsympathetic outsiders who insist Moldbug & Friends are a big deal.

This sympathetic outsider suspects he’s got a good chance of being a big deal sometime in the next 50 years.

I ended up with the sense that maybe Boldmug should pick on someone his own size.

The “evidence” that the “intelligence community” publicly released was laughable to anyone (like me) who understands how the internet and hacking work — Moldbug is one of the top coders there is and an ex-hacker who never got caught.

Probably Russians (not necessarily the Russians) did do it, but they covered their tracks well enough it couldn’t be proven.

The left is trying hard to find out who’s in charge of this alt-right thing, and they’re flailing around like madmen.

You’ll find our host somewhere in the above web of silky darkness.

‘I love all my moms’: Hundreds of polygamists led by the family from ‘Sister Wives’ descend on steps of Utah Capitol to demand the legal right to plural marriage

If polygamy is allowable for Muslims, then …

1996 was the era of Grrl Power! That movie wasn’t made because anyone had an overwhelming desire to represent Argentinean politics on the silver screen.

More news in the current Daily Mail:

Merkel offers cash handouts worth millions of pounds for migrants to return home in an embarrassing U-turn

By Mario Ledwith Brussels Correspondent For The Daily Mail
PUBLISHED: 20:10 EST, 10 February 2017 | UPDATED: 23:01 EST, 10 February 2017

Merkel offers cash handouts worth millions of pounds for migrants to return home in an embarrassing U-turn

An estimated 450,000 rejected migrants are set to be sent home

Scheme includes £76million of cash incentives to leave voluntarily

By Mario Ledwith Brussels Correspondent For The Daily Mail

PUBLISHED: 20:10 EST, 10 February 2017 | UPDATED: 23:01 EST, 10 February 2017

Angela Merkel will offer cash handouts worth millions of pounds for migrants to leave Germany in an effort to silence criticism of her ‘open-door’ border policy.

In a highly-embarrassing U-turn over the ill-fated plan, which saw 1.2million migrants flock to the country, Mrs Merkel has now vowed to send many of them home.

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The near continuous war with Persia might be a factor.

You could seriously play the alt-right for laughs, what with the Pepes, haircuts, and so on.

He took Thomas Carlyle as one of his models. That guy sure could talk around a subject. Moldbug isn’t nearly so good a writer, and hence can’t get away with as much circumlocution.

I prefer getting to the point. However, the Rule of Funny applies, as always, and Moldbug is funny so I give him a pass. Plus, he does get to the point eventually, and in fact repeats his favorite points ad nauseam. But that’s another fault altogether.

Thing is, Moldbug’s style is specially designed to float past the defense mechanisms of those trapped in the contemporary PC mind prison, which to a certain extent is all of us. It grates on me a bit, because I’m already open to the idea of restoring monarchy, for instance, even if I’m not a Jacobite. (I don’t think he is, either.) But the site isn’t designed for people like me or possible you. It’s aimed at progressives, or folks just this side of progressivism.

I don’t know how well it works, because I’m not one of them. But I know with them you can’t just come out and say, “Western history since the Enlightenment is a sham,” or “America is a communist country.” They won’t accept it; they’ll click away or shut their brains down

They still need democracy, and are constantly arguing for more of it when it comes to signing up new voters to swamp out their opposition…

This has been going on ever since the early nineteenth century, when the freehold qualification began to be abandoned. American history shows that the fundamental defect of limited-franchise democracy is that when one faction can’t get its way, it seeks to redefine the franchise to its advantage. Voting is ideally viewed not as a right, nor as a duty, but as a public trust. Yet this truth has been forgotten amidst talk of rights and venting of grievances.

The supposed “right to vote” is legally distinct from the ordinary rights of citizenship. Constitutional lawyers understood this at the time of the Fifteenth Amendment. Had the franchise been among those rights, that Amendment would not have been necessary to enfranchise negroes – the Fourteenth Amendment would have sufficed.

But in fact, the franchise is independent of those ordinary rights, and has been extended in several steps. The first was the severance of the franchise from property ownership. At the time of the Revolution, the franchise in all the colonies was confined to freeholders. Fifty or sixty years later, the property qualification was mostly gone, opening the polls to all white males. This hastened the demise of the Federalist Party and enabled the rise of Andrew Jackson. The ratification of the Fifteenth Amendment, swelling Southern voter rolls with freed blacks, solidified Republican control of the post-bellum Federal government, and permitted the enactment of robust tariffs that had long been sought by Northern industrialists, as well as the looting of the South by Republican carpetbaggers during the so-called Reconstruction.

While the subsequent Redemption effectively disenfranchised Southern blacks, women’s suffrage was the next great expansion of the franchise, and was closely connected with the enactment of liquor prohibition. Then in the ‘sixties, the civil rights movement brought about the re-enfranchisement of blacks, along with leftist attacks, disguised as “civil rights acts,” on rights of free association and private property.

The common thread through all of these enlargements of the franchise has been the aggrandizement of the Federal government’s power and size. At each step, some faction has derived immediate benefit from expanding voter roles by shifting the electoral balance in its favor – but in all cases this has increased the scope and size of government at the expense of liberty.

We are now at the point where there is no class of existing citizens that does not enjoy the franchise, so the effort of one of our current factions has shifted to importing new voters, or indeed enfranchising foreigners illegally present here.

One of the most powerful arguments of the neoreactionaries is to point out that meddling with the franchise is an inherent flaw of democracy. When a faction fails to get what it wants it does not seek to persuade the existing electorate to its point of view – it simply creates enough new voters to do so.

I have always been a believer in “timocracy” – in other words, a relatively broad franchise, but one limited to voters qualified on the basis of property ownership or tax payment, military service, or descent from the country’s founding population. The Venetian Republic had such a government and survived for a thousand years – but in the United States our factions seem to have been unable to resist “dissolving the people and electing another.” The result has been a slow descent into oligarchy. As the vote has been expanded more and more promiscuously, the less it has become worth in practice.

Our laws are made by largely unanswerable bureaucrats to whom our elected representatives, unwilling to do the actual work of a legislature, have delegated the authority. Difficult issues are decided by judges, whom being appointed for life, never have to face voters who are unhappy with their decisions. Congress, for the present, retains the power of levying taxes and appropriating funds, though judges have occasionally arrogated even this authority to themselves. Even a president, as we have seen, can be defeated by judges.

It is only a matter of time before our rois fainéants, like the ancient Merovingians, are at long last dismissed by the modern equivalents of the mayors of the palace – bureaucrats and judges.

“Our Fascist are better than theirs.”

The whole point of Zionism and the modern state of Israel was to divorce Europe after it was decided Emancipation just hadn’t worked out. Israelis shouldn’t even want a European passport.

It’s possible. The Dark Enlightenment had about zero chance of any practical influence on its own, because it is for highbrows and any highbrow who isn’t a loser and has any interest in getting ahead socially or career-wise is going to be a good liberal. The alt-right, on the other hand, regular people can get behind. Ifsoever it should merge with the mainstream (it *will* become the mainstream right, mark my words), it’s going to need a highbrow version for all the eggheads to justify their continued existence.

Oldstyle conservatism and libertarianism won’t cut it. Enter neoreaction.

Don’t forget France has a long history of conflict with England. I could see them wanting to exclude the Anglosphere.

Of course, the irony is that their obsession with asserting their superiority to the Anglos is très Anglo.

I don’t know why a nationalist would want any dual citizenship, frankly. They’ve had many wars with their neighbors such as Germany.

It’s somewhat bittersweet to me, if France is saved but at the same time it becomes less viable as a “backup” country. (Also, I really, really doubt there’s going to be another France-Germany war. Not that Le Pen is against dual citizenship with Germany).

As for Russia, I know everyone loves him here, but wonder if Putin has a hand in this–wasn’t he giving them money?

Yeah; they got a €9 million loan from a Kremlin-connected Czech bank. I was going to say that Le Pen consistently sounds among the most Putin-puppety of Western political figures accused of being Putin puppets, but I figured the post was flamebait enough already. (FWIW, before anyone’s keyboard melts, I think Le Pen is the best choice even if she were completely compromised by Putin).

Israel would be pushing it.

You’re a lot more likely to find someone who speaks French there. And the climate, standard of living and the all-important national cuisine is a lot closer.

BTW, IHRA’s definition of antisemitism seems a bit broad

They’re the rear guard fighting a losing battle. When it comes down to it, it’s SJW morality or an Israeli right to exist, pick one.

So if I take a plane trip to Berlin and claim I am a 16 year old from Syria I get money?

What could go wrong?

That is why I was hoping for an Obama / Romney ticket.

Russia is historically Christian.

The Russians and French were mutually excommunicated from each other’s church for 900 years; by the time they reconciled people had stopped going to church in either country. First world vs. ex-commie world is a more meaningful distinction. As I said elsewhere Israel has proportionally more French-speakers, and a far more similar climate, standard of living and (very important to the French) national cuisine.

Please explain why dual citizenship is a good idea.

Because otherwise you’re essentially a hostage of your government. It’s good to have options, or even the option to have options. Dual citizenship with third-world hellholes is of course a bad idea and ought not to be allowed.

If dual American-Israeli citizenship is OK, why not dual German or Russian or Chinese-American citizenship?

AFAIK, all of those are perfectly legal. I don’t see any reason those would be objectionable, except maybe China because the US doesn’t have an extradition treaty with them.

Surprised to see Rosie Gray writing for The Atlantic. Nothing against her, but I don’t see her on the same level as say, Douthat, who used to write there, or Mark Bowden, Caitlan Flanagan, etc.

A few (but only a few) more than that. But, quite close!