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The Art of the Bad Deal: Is Trump Being Played for a Chump in DACA Haggling?

From Breitbart:

DHS Not Deporting DREAMers, Sec. Kelly Assures

by JOHN BINDER 30 Mar 2017Washington, D.C.

Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary John Kelly says illegal immigrant youths covered by the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program will not be deported.
Kelly told Senate Democrats that DACA recipients, also known as ‘DREAMers,’ would not be targeted by DHS for deportation, unless they broke the law.

… Roughly 750,000 illegal immigrants are covered by DACA and President Donald Trump’s administration has signaled no action thus far on ending or reforming the program. Currently, 800 work permits for illegal immigrants through DACA can be granted every day.

Democrats really, really want DACA. Why isn’t, at minimum, the Trump Administration bargaining to get concessions from them on other immigration policies? Where in your copy of The Art of the Deal does it say you should just concede for free whatever your counterpart wants most?

 
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  1. DACA is a sensitive subject. Mainstream America has mixed feelings about deporting a 21-year-old who came here when his parents illegally immigrated in 1998.

    The local media where I’m from, if not the national, has had repeated stories about DACA recipients in their late teens or early twenties with a DUI or a petty marijuana charge getting picked by ICE.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Apparently, immigration and borders in general are a sensitive topic.


    Don't confuse advocacy and rhetoric with substantive merits.

    It amazes me how solicitous and accommodating we are of these young single illegals when it comes to returning them home, while we think nothing of asking American graduates and older workers to uproot from their homes and communities to find work elsewhere.
    , @map
    Yeah, the children of illegals should profit from their parents' illegal activity.

    If parents are thieves, then we should allow the kids to keep what was stolen because it would be so unfair to make the kids poor.

    They must go.
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  2. Steve,

    Most likely Princess Ivanka has forbidden daddy to engage in any such uncouth behavior that would discomfort her liberal sensibilities!

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    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @BB753
    We should get rid of Pwincess Ivanka and her Prince Charming. Wanna bet there's a sex-tape of her or of both just waiting for a righteous altrighter to post on YouTube? Or any kind of dirt? It might be ugly, but it's a matter of national security to oust those two from the White House.
  3. The country has changed and there really is no going back. Best case scenario was that Trump could slow it down for 4 or 5 years. That looks like wishful thinking now.

    On a somewhat lighter note, any movie reviews in the offing Steve?

    Read More
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Should I go see the latest Fast and Furious movie?
    , @syonredux

    The country has changed and there really is no going back. Best case scenario was that Trump could slow it down for 4 or 5 years. That looks like wishful thinking now.
     
    Demography is destiny:

    Around the time the 2020 Census is conducted, more than half of the nation’s children are expected to be part of a minority race or ethnic group. This proportion is expected to continue to grow so that by 2060, just 36 percent of all children (people under age 18) will be single-race non-Hispanic white, compared with 52 percent today.
     
    https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2015/cb15-tps16.html
    , @anon

    The country has changed and there really is no going back.
     
    Sure there is.
    , @Clark Westwood

    The country has changed and there really is no going back. Best case scenario was that Trump could slow it down for 4 or 5 years. That looks like wishful thinking now.
     
    Yes. Trump's most important task is appointing conservative (for lack of a better term) judges. Gorsuch was an excellent start. That's about the only thing he can do that Dems and RINOs can't undo as soon as they get power back in their hands (assuming they haven't already).
  4. @Nope
    The country has changed and there really is no going back. Best case scenario was that Trump could slow it down for 4 or 5 years. That looks like wishful thinking now.

    On a somewhat lighter note, any movie reviews in the offing Steve?

    Should I go see the latest Fast and Furious movie?

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    Should I go see the latest Fast and Furious movie?
     
    Only if you want to see the future of America......And, judging by the F&F franchise, future America will be a nightmarish place.....
    , @Nope
    Yeah. It'd be interesting to see how the franchise is without Paul Walker.

    Do you have an opinion on James Bond movies? The two most recent ones have been fairly nationalistic, particularly Skyfall. Interesting given Brexit and all. Mostly white casts too.

    , @Lot

    Should I go see the latest Fast and Furious movie?
     
    Your readers likely watch a lot more 2+ year old movies at home than go out and see new releases at a theater.
    , @Paul Walker - Most beautiful man ever...
    "Should I go see the latest Fast and Furious movie?"
    Considering your half-arsed Paul Walker obituary, yes, you deserve to watch FF8.
  5. My first reaction is in line with yours Steve. In other words, this is unbelievable–why does Kelly even need to say one way or the other right now?

    But his comments may reflect just how badly wounded this White House is at the moment and it’s need to preemptively assuage sore spots.

    It is my understanding that there is another aspect of DACA that the White House has fallen down on. That is the ongoing issuance of DACA work permits to DACA illegals. Deportation can be seen as a separate question. Apparently, Trump promised to end this executive practice on Day 1. He has not done so. Instead, they are issuing thousands each day.

    Man, Richard Spencer has caused untold damage to this administration with all his self-aggrandizing antics. How much of his media whoring and claiming to speak for others are responsible for the DACA reticence, and for Bannon’s being on the way out?

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    • LOL: IHTG
    • Replies: @Anon
    I doubt that Spencer really harmed Trump, what with moving the Overton window and all.
    , @Lot

    It is my understanding that there is another aspect of DACA that the White House has fallen down on. That is the ongoing issuance of DACA work permits to DACA illegals.
     
    The work permits are 90% of the harm of DACA. These people are generally well screened, organized enough to save money and paperwork to complete the DACA application, want an on-the-books job, and spent part or most of their formative years in the USA. They have always been extremely low deportation priorities. Repealing the DACA order would not result in them being deported, it would result in them losing work eligibility.

    Man, Richard Spencer has caused untold damage to this administration with all his self-aggrandizing antics. How much of his media whoring and claiming to speak for others are responsible for the DACA reticence, and for Bannon’s being on the way out?
     
    If Richard Spencer didn't exist, the MSM would have found another guy to fill the exact same role. In fact, David Duke tried hard to get it. But Spencer was conveniently in the DC metro area and even got a special haircut. (Though I recall a few of his dozens of MSM profiles being in a picturesque SWPL resort town in Montana. Not much of a hardship assignment.)
    , @Anonymous

    How much of his media whoring and claiming to speak for others are responsible for the DACA reticence, and for Bannon’s being on the way out?
     
    Speaking of symptoms of Bannon being sidelined, is this another?

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747


    [BANNON:] I'm the guy pushing a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan. With negative interest rates throughout the world, it's the greatest opportunity to rebuild everything. Shipyards, ironworks, get them all jacked up. We're just going to throw it up against the wall and see if it sticks. It will be as exciting as the 1930s, greater than the Reagan revolution — conservatives, plus populists, in an economic nationalist movement.
     
    (And then Trump spent all his economic nationalist bargaining chips with China on the North Koreans.)

    http://theweek.com/articles/691606/president-trumps-infrastructure-betrayal


    With a bit of thought and political effort, we could have trains that were at least not an abject national humiliation ... Proudly breaking ground on a cheap, efficient new high-speed train would fit perfectly with Trump's self-image as the man who gets big projects done on time, under budget, and properly.

    But his budget proposes slashing spending both for Amtrak and federal rail spending. He'd make our already dismal system much worse — and not just in the Northeast Corridor; the cuts also mean completely cutting off passenger rail service to 220 cities.
     

    , @anon

    Richard Spencer has caused untold damage to this administration with all his self-aggrandizing antics
     
    Given the array of opposing forces include
    - banking mafia
    - media
    - most billionaire oligarchs
    - an almost totally corrupted political class
    singling out Spencer is ludicrous.
    , @bored identity
    Says an opinionator.
    , @reiner Tor
    I also heard there was a global warming going on. This Spencer guy really caused untold damage to mankind! Wow, just wow. I can't even.
  6. At a minimum, these DACA people should have to prove they were minors when they arrived. Of course, ideally we’d just deport them all…

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  7. @Broski
    DACA is a sensitive subject. Mainstream America has mixed feelings about deporting a 21-year-old who came here when his parents illegally immigrated in 1998.

    The local media where I'm from, if not the national, has had repeated stories about DACA recipients in their late teens or early twenties with a DUI or a petty marijuana charge getting picked by ICE.

    Apparently, immigration and borders in general are a sensitive topic.

    Don’t confuse advocacy and rhetoric with substantive merits.

    It amazes me how solicitous and accommodating we are of these young single illegals when it comes to returning them home, while we think nothing of asking American graduates and older workers to uproot from their homes and communities to find work elsewhere.

    Read More
  8. @Steve Sailer
    Should I go see the latest Fast and Furious movie?

    Should I go see the latest Fast and Furious movie?

    Only if you want to see the future of America……And, judging by the F&F franchise, future America will be a nightmarish place…..

    Read More
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Based on the trailers, I think of the Fast and Furious movies as part of the Mad Max franchise. Just like they had CSI: NY, CSI: Miami, etc, F&F is like "Mad Max: North America". Seriously, doesn't it look like a cross between those dystopian movies and a rap video? The main difference is that the rag-tag band of villains in the Australian version has become the band of heroes in the Brasil Norte version.

    I saw the trailer for the latest one playing on a video billboard recently. Looks like part of the plot twist in this one is evil white, blonde woman seducing one of the heroes, leading the Hispanic woman to say something like "you turned on family!" Of course, the evil blonde is played by the useless Charlize Theron, the female Robert Redford.
  9. @Nope
    The country has changed and there really is no going back. Best case scenario was that Trump could slow it down for 4 or 5 years. That looks like wishful thinking now.

    On a somewhat lighter note, any movie reviews in the offing Steve?

    The country has changed and there really is no going back. Best case scenario was that Trump could slow it down for 4 or 5 years. That looks like wishful thinking now.

    Demography is destiny:

    Around the time the 2020 Census is conducted, more than half of the nation’s children are expected to be part of a minority race or ethnic group. This proportion is expected to continue to grow so that by 2060, just 36 percent of all children (people under age 18) will be single-race non-Hispanic white, compared with 52 percent today.

    https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2015/cb15-tps16.html

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  10. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Opinionator
    My first reaction is in line with yours Steve. In other words, this is unbelievable--why does Kelly even need to say one way or the other right now?

    But his comments may reflect just how badly wounded this White House is at the moment and it's need to preemptively assuage sore spots.

    It is my understanding that there is another aspect of DACA that the White House has fallen down on. That is the ongoing issuance of DACA work permits to DACA illegals. Deportation can be seen as a separate question. Apparently, Trump promised to end this executive practice on Day 1. He has not done so. Instead, they are issuing thousands each day.

    Man, Richard Spencer has caused untold damage to this administration with all his self-aggrandizing antics. How much of his media whoring and claiming to speak for others are responsible for the DACA reticence, and for Bannon's being on the way out?

    I doubt that Spencer really harmed Trump, what with moving the Overton window and all.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    I doubt that Spencer really harmed Trump, what with moving the Overton window and all.
     
    Has the "Overton Window" actually moved? When it comes to immigration?
    , @Opinionator
    Spencer hasn't move the Overton Window. He's only tainted a lot of innocent people. You people treat your Overton Window theory like its the law of gravity. If it works like you say, maybe Spencer should come out in favor of forcibly deporting all illegal immigrants on cattle cars. Hell, maybe he should come out for the expulsion of all non-Whites (citizens and non-citizens) from the United States.

    In the case of Bannon, Spencer provided a link (a fatuous one), to a willing media, between Bannon and White Supremacism, and even Nazism.

  11. I’ve been thinking for awhile about some DACA related deals. How about abolition of diversity lottery permanently for some DACA’s getting green cards, or total legal immigration cuts of 50% or more for major DACA and family and friends legalization, with maybe birthright citizenship starting on January 1,2018 thrown in for good measure. Sell these Dreamers dearly Donald, don’t just give them away.

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  12. Where in your copy of The Art of the Deal does it say you should just concede for free whatever your counterpart wants most?

    The same part where it says, when you and your counterpart want the same thing, don’t fight them.

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    • Replies: @res


    Where in your copy of The Art of the Deal does it say you should just concede for free whatever your counterpart wants most?

     

    The same part where it says, when you and your counterpart want the same thing, don’t fight them.
     
    Well, there is the idea of strategic misrepresentation. For example, see Howard Raiffa's The Art & Science of Negotiation pp. 142-145.

    Do you have a real reference to The Art of the Deal that discusses either concept?
  13. @Anon
    I doubt that Spencer really harmed Trump, what with moving the Overton window and all.

    I doubt that Spencer really harmed Trump, what with moving the Overton window and all.

    Has the “Overton Window” actually moved? When it comes to immigration?

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    • Replies: @anon

    Has the “Overton Window” actually moved? When it comes to immigration?
     
    Yes - obviously.
    , @International Jew
    Sadly, no. When Obama proclaimed DACA the Republicans made noises about it being unconstitutional (ie the chief executive refusing to execute the law). Today, ending DACA is considered the radical course of action.
  14. @Anon
    I doubt that Spencer really harmed Trump, what with moving the Overton window and all.

    Spencer hasn’t move the Overton Window. He’s only tainted a lot of innocent people. You people treat your Overton Window theory like its the law of gravity. If it works like you say, maybe Spencer should come out in favor of forcibly deporting all illegal immigrants on cattle cars. Hell, maybe he should come out for the expulsion of all non-Whites (citizens and non-citizens) from the United States.

    In the case of Bannon, Spencer provided a link (a fatuous one), to a willing media, between Bannon and White Supremacism, and even Nazism.

    Read More
    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

    maybe Spencer should come out in favor of forcibly deporting all illegal immigrants on cattle cars

     

    Not cattle cars, planes.

    Flight carrying some 150 migrants part of Israel’s operation Returning Home

    About 150 South Sudanese citizens left Israel early Sunday morning, part of Israel’s attempt to repatriate African migrants who have found their way inside its borders ...

    ... The flight to Juba, the capital of the fledlging state of South Sudan, took off after a goodbye ceremony put on by activists and aid workers at South Tel Aviv’s Levinsky Park.

    ... More than 100 illegal migrants from South Sudan were rounded up in immigration control sweeps in the past week.

     

  15. Trump is not a chump, we are for thinking he’d be any sort of traitor to his billionaire class. He’s not. He has no compunction about breaking explicit anti-establishment promises he made during this campaign. He demoted and publicly insulted Bannon and has put his fellow real estate heir Kushner in charge along with Goldman Sachs #2 Gary Cohn. Paul Ryan is running his domestic policy.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Did he really have much of a choice? He isn't omnipotent.
    , @MBlanc46
    It certainly appears that you are correct. In less than three months, he's shown himself to be just another lying, scumbag politician.
  16. @Lot
    Trump is not a chump, we are for thinking he'd be any sort of traitor to his billionaire class. He's not. He has no compunction about breaking explicit anti-establishment promises he made during this campaign. He demoted and publicly insulted Bannon and has put his fellow real estate heir Kushner in charge along with Goldman Sachs #2 Gary Cohn. Paul Ryan is running his domestic policy.

    Did he really have much of a choice? He isn’t omnipotent.

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    • Replies: @Lot

    He isn’t omnipotent.
     
    He had the power of the presidency and a large faction of Congress. I'd be content if he tried.
  17. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    As I understand it, Kris Kobach met with Trump during the transition and was floated for Gen. Kelly’s position, but it was thought he would not pass Senate confirmation. Kelly fought the White House over Kobach for deputy, and chose an Obama supporter and bureaucrat, Elaine Duke.

    John Binder‏ @JxhnBinder

    Source of mine told me that Kris Kobach, an immigration hawk who’s very popular with #Trump base, does not hear from White House anymore…

    Oh, and Paul Ryan “in a statement to The Hill, seemed to concede that border wall funding would not be included in the GOP budget.” Silence on that from Trump so far.

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  18. @syonredux

    Should I go see the latest Fast and Furious movie?
     
    Only if you want to see the future of America......And, judging by the F&F franchise, future America will be a nightmarish place.....

    Based on the trailers, I think of the Fast and Furious movies as part of the Mad Max franchise. Just like they had CSI: NY, CSI: Miami, etc, F&F is like “Mad Max: North America”. Seriously, doesn’t it look like a cross between those dystopian movies and a rap video? The main difference is that the rag-tag band of villains in the Australian version has become the band of heroes in the Brasil Norte version.

    I saw the trailer for the latest one playing on a video billboard recently. Looks like part of the plot twist in this one is evil white, blonde woman seducing one of the heroes, leading the Hispanic woman to say something like “you turned on family!” Of course, the evil blonde is played by the useless Charlize Theron, the female Robert Redford.

    Read More
  19. @Opinionator
    My first reaction is in line with yours Steve. In other words, this is unbelievable--why does Kelly even need to say one way or the other right now?

    But his comments may reflect just how badly wounded this White House is at the moment and it's need to preemptively assuage sore spots.

    It is my understanding that there is another aspect of DACA that the White House has fallen down on. That is the ongoing issuance of DACA work permits to DACA illegals. Deportation can be seen as a separate question. Apparently, Trump promised to end this executive practice on Day 1. He has not done so. Instead, they are issuing thousands each day.

    Man, Richard Spencer has caused untold damage to this administration with all his self-aggrandizing antics. How much of his media whoring and claiming to speak for others are responsible for the DACA reticence, and for Bannon's being on the way out?

    It is my understanding that there is another aspect of DACA that the White House has fallen down on. That is the ongoing issuance of DACA work permits to DACA illegals.

    The work permits are 90% of the harm of DACA. These people are generally well screened, organized enough to save money and paperwork to complete the DACA application, want an on-the-books job, and spent part or most of their formative years in the USA. They have always been extremely low deportation priorities. Repealing the DACA order would not result in them being deported, it would result in them losing work eligibility.

    Man, Richard Spencer has caused untold damage to this administration with all his self-aggrandizing antics. How much of his media whoring and claiming to speak for others are responsible for the DACA reticence, and for Bannon’s being on the way out?

    If Richard Spencer didn’t exist, the MSM would have found another guy to fill the exact same role. In fact, David Duke tried hard to get it. But Spencer was conveniently in the DC metro area and even got a special haircut. (Though I recall a few of his dozens of MSM profiles being in a picturesque SWPL resort town in Montana. Not much of a hardship assignment.)

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Repealing the DACA order would not result in them being deported, it would result in them losing work eligibility.

    Are you of the view the order should be repealed?

    If Richard Spencer didn’t exist, the MSM would have found another guy to fill the exact same role.

    Unlike Spencer, Duke has not presented himself to the media as a leader of the Alt Right, a grouping of people that were closely identified with Trump's campaign and with Bannon's company, Breitbart. Duke to my knowledge has not recently given Nazi salutes while purporting to speak for the Alt Right. Nor has he advocated for ethnic cleansing in the United States.
    , @Opinionator
    The work permits are 90% of the harm of DACA. These people are generally well screened, organized enough to save money and paperwork to complete the DACA application, want an on-the-books job, and spent part or most of their formative years in the USA. They have always been extremely low deportation priorities. Repealing the DACA order would not result in them being deported, it would result in them losing work eligibility.

    I'm getting more and more angry, the more I think about this. Trump is in effect affirmatively granting executive amnesty to illegal foreign workers. This is worse than mere inaction, it is action in favor or illegals. What happened to Hire American? And what has he actually accomplished in terms of affirmative steps to restrict immigration?
  20. @Opinionator
    Did he really have much of a choice? He isn't omnipotent.

    He isn’t omnipotent.

    He had the power of the presidency and a large faction of Congress. I’d be content if he tried.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    And that begs the question of how much power the Trump presidency has had, considering unpopularity, backstabbing from own party, impeachment threat, unprecedented media hostility, Russia bs, opposition from courts.

    I'll say this though:

    I sense a growing risk that the endgame for Trump (or for some of the family members that most influence his presidency) becomes the mere survival of his brand for the next four years, long enough to get out of the politics business and avoid business ruin.

  21. @Steve Sailer
    Should I go see the latest Fast and Furious movie?

    Yeah. It’d be interesting to see how the franchise is without Paul Walker.

    Do you have an opinion on James Bond movies? The two most recent ones have been fairly nationalistic, particularly Skyfall. Interesting given Brexit and all. Mostly white casts too.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    Do you have an opinion on James Bond movies? The two most recent ones have been fairly nationalistic, particularly Skyfall. Interesting given Brexit and all. Mostly white casts too.
     
    You must have not noticed the Black Miss Moneypenny.....
  22. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Opinionator
    My first reaction is in line with yours Steve. In other words, this is unbelievable--why does Kelly even need to say one way or the other right now?

    But his comments may reflect just how badly wounded this White House is at the moment and it's need to preemptively assuage sore spots.

    It is my understanding that there is another aspect of DACA that the White House has fallen down on. That is the ongoing issuance of DACA work permits to DACA illegals. Deportation can be seen as a separate question. Apparently, Trump promised to end this executive practice on Day 1. He has not done so. Instead, they are issuing thousands each day.

    Man, Richard Spencer has caused untold damage to this administration with all his self-aggrandizing antics. How much of his media whoring and claiming to speak for others are responsible for the DACA reticence, and for Bannon's being on the way out?

    How much of his media whoring and claiming to speak for others are responsible for the DACA reticence, and for Bannon’s being on the way out?

    Speaking of symptoms of Bannon being sidelined, is this another?

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747

    [BANNON:] I’m the guy pushing a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan. With negative interest rates throughout the world, it’s the greatest opportunity to rebuild everything. Shipyards, ironworks, get them all jacked up. We’re just going to throw it up against the wall and see if it sticks. It will be as exciting as the 1930s, greater than the Reagan revolution — conservatives, plus populists, in an economic nationalist movement.

    (And then Trump spent all his economic nationalist bargaining chips with China on the North Koreans.)

    http://theweek.com/articles/691606/president-trumps-infrastructure-betrayal

    With a bit of thought and political effort, we could have trains that were at least not an abject national humiliation … Proudly breaking ground on a cheap, efficient new high-speed train would fit perfectly with Trump’s self-image as the man who gets big projects done on time, under budget, and properly.

    But his budget proposes slashing spending both for Amtrak and federal rail spending. He’d make our already dismal system much worse — and not just in the Northeast Corridor; the cuts also mean completely cutting off passenger rail service to 220 cities.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    I'd rather see them focus on immigration than infrastructure. Quicker, easier, fewer opportunities to screw up. Just stop issuing work visas. Just step up enforcement activities.

    Why the hell didn't they make immigration legislation their first move: eVerify, elimination of certain classes of legal immigrant visas?

    We're going to need to focus our political pressure apparently. It should be on immigration, at least for now.

  23. @Steve Sailer
    Should I go see the latest Fast and Furious movie?

    Should I go see the latest Fast and Furious movie?

    Your readers likely watch a lot more 2+ year old movies at home than go out and see new releases at a theater.

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    • Replies: @Nope
    It would be cool if he went back and reviewed some recent movies he might've missed in the theater.
    , @res

    Your readers likely watch a lot more 2+ year old movies at home than go out and see new releases at a theater.
     
    Perhaps, but if he/we are patient he can satisfy both groups by reviewing new releases. Although web searches work well an index of iSteve movie reviews would be handy.
  24. @Lot

    It is my understanding that there is another aspect of DACA that the White House has fallen down on. That is the ongoing issuance of DACA work permits to DACA illegals.
     
    The work permits are 90% of the harm of DACA. These people are generally well screened, organized enough to save money and paperwork to complete the DACA application, want an on-the-books job, and spent part or most of their formative years in the USA. They have always been extremely low deportation priorities. Repealing the DACA order would not result in them being deported, it would result in them losing work eligibility.

    Man, Richard Spencer has caused untold damage to this administration with all his self-aggrandizing antics. How much of his media whoring and claiming to speak for others are responsible for the DACA reticence, and for Bannon’s being on the way out?
     
    If Richard Spencer didn't exist, the MSM would have found another guy to fill the exact same role. In fact, David Duke tried hard to get it. But Spencer was conveniently in the DC metro area and even got a special haircut. (Though I recall a few of his dozens of MSM profiles being in a picturesque SWPL resort town in Montana. Not much of a hardship assignment.)

    Repealing the DACA order would not result in them being deported, it would result in them losing work eligibility.

    Are you of the view the order should be repealed?

    If Richard Spencer didn’t exist, the MSM would have found another guy to fill the exact same role.

    Unlike Spencer, Duke has not presented himself to the media as a leader of the Alt Right, a grouping of people that were closely identified with Trump’s campaign and with Bannon’s company, Breitbart. Duke to my knowledge has not recently given Nazi salutes while purporting to speak for the Alt Right. Nor has he advocated for ethnic cleansing in the United States.

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    • Replies: @Lot

    Are you of the view the order should be repealed?
     
    DACA was completely illegal. Trump had a moral and constitutional obligation to revoke it the day he assumed office. Many people thought that he would do so. This is one of his many sell outs.

    The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals struck down Obama's second and much larger executive amnesty as illegal. It is illegal in three different ways.


    The states sued to prevent DAPA’s implementation on three grounds. First, they asserted that DAPA violated the procedural requirements of the APA as a substantive rule that did not undergo the requisite notice-and-comment rulemaking. Second, the states claimed that DHS lacked the authority to implement the program even if it followed the correct rulemaking process, such that DAPA was substantively unlawful under the APA. Third, the states urged that DAPA was an abrogation of the President’s constitutional duty to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” U.S. CONST. art. II, § 3.
     
    Maybe amnesty for "Dreamers" is a compromise that can be made in return for concessions like ending the diversity lottery. But Trump does not care about these issues, so he has never made any indication he will offer such a proposal. Instead he will just continue with Obama's illegal executive amnesty.

    Unlike Spencer, Duke has not...
     
    OK, I agree that Spencer was a uniquely convenient and slick media whore, and did a better job than Duke or other alternatives would have. So yes that probably hurt Trump a little. But the MSM could and would have found probably a rotating cast of a few to fill Spencer's shoes and who'd say anything he said. And they would have found tenuous links to SKB and Breitbart.
  25. @Lot

    Should I go see the latest Fast and Furious movie?
     
    Your readers likely watch a lot more 2+ year old movies at home than go out and see new releases at a theater.

    It would be cool if he went back and reviewed some recent movies he might’ve missed in the theater.

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  26. @Nope
    Yeah. It'd be interesting to see how the franchise is without Paul Walker.

    Do you have an opinion on James Bond movies? The two most recent ones have been fairly nationalistic, particularly Skyfall. Interesting given Brexit and all. Mostly white casts too.

    Do you have an opinion on James Bond movies? The two most recent ones have been fairly nationalistic, particularly Skyfall. Interesting given Brexit and all. Mostly white casts too.

    You must have not noticed the Black Miss Moneypenny…..

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    • Replies: @Nope
    1. I said mostly white cast.

    2. She's the only minority among the main cast.
  27. I think Trump backed up when he saw he couldn’t get anything past the activist federal judges.

    If he goes after DACA illegals, every federal judge will probably issue a stay and that will be that.

    The sad thing is, anyone who saw how the Left stacked the deck against whites and America, could see this coming given how the Left rigged the legal system against traditional American values, including Christianity and white males for decades.

    That’s why I had little faith that Trump could make dramatic changes even if he stayed the course.

    The system prevents it. It prevents real reform.

    We either break the system or it destroys us given enough time and it will all be legal because some clown in a robe says so like some tin pot dictator with a flimsy rationale.

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    • Replies: @Nope
    This, plus the fact that even a Republican congress won't try to limit immigration. Hopefully Trump can get some things through, Jeff Sessions is still AG and seems to be all over it, but I wouldn't hold my breath for the wall or some of the other big promises. Maybe after he gets a few wins under his belt.
    , @Anonymous

    I think Trump backed up when he saw he couldn’t get anything past the activist federal judges.

    If he goes after DACA illegals, every federal judge will probably issue a stay and that will be that.

     

    All the 4D chess commentators contended that by throwing the Muslim ban at the liberal judiciary Trump was testing and exposing the enemy while waiting for Gorsuch to be confirmed so he can go full hog.

    Then Trump supposedly got impatient with the lack of results (on the ban, and on healthcare) and sidelined Bannon and Miller.

    Just like the 4D move was that Ryan was being given enough rope to hang himself over healthcare... but as it turns out, Bannon got the blame.

    , @Opinionator
    If he goes after DACA illegals, every federal judge will probably issue a stay and that will be that.

    Surely he could have at least revoked the Obama order that is granting with each passing day NEW work permits to DACA illegals. Wasn't that supposed to have been done on Day One?
    , @anon

    We either break the system or it destroys us given enough time and it will all be legal because some clown in a robe says so like some tin pot dictator with a flimsy rationale.
     
    I think the choices are either we break the system or it plows into an iceberg and sinks with (almost) all hands.

    #

    my predictions

    1) the banking mafia will behave like other parasites and as they kill their previous host they will try to move to another

    2) they've moved most of the west's productive capacity off-shore, mainly to China so that is their likely next victim/base of operations

    3) the banking mafia like to have a single power to act as their debt collector and enforcer which they control from behind the scenes so they don't want a multi-polar world

    so how would they get from where we are now to a world where they are the power behind the scenes of China as a single global power?

    1) the Western economy is hanging by a thread of debt which they can cut at any time causing a global crash

    2) Europe is being set up for a Holodomor when the crash comes so that's that

    3) America might actually survive a crash cos land, resources etc and Russia, China definitely would so

    4) incite a nuclear exchange between Russia and the US leaving China (they hope) as their tame enforcer

    however before that

    5) they won't want a nuke power adjacent to their new base so use America's waning military might to take out North Korea before the crash

    6) ditto using the US to take out Israel's perceived enemies before either the crash or the Russia vs US conflict

    obviously the nuclear exchange part is the hardest to believe but if they don't think it will cause a nuclear winter then they'd do it imo.

    so...oppose or prep or both cos they're gonna do it

  28. @Lot

    It is my understanding that there is another aspect of DACA that the White House has fallen down on. That is the ongoing issuance of DACA work permits to DACA illegals.
     
    The work permits are 90% of the harm of DACA. These people are generally well screened, organized enough to save money and paperwork to complete the DACA application, want an on-the-books job, and spent part or most of their formative years in the USA. They have always been extremely low deportation priorities. Repealing the DACA order would not result in them being deported, it would result in them losing work eligibility.

    Man, Richard Spencer has caused untold damage to this administration with all his self-aggrandizing antics. How much of his media whoring and claiming to speak for others are responsible for the DACA reticence, and for Bannon’s being on the way out?
     
    If Richard Spencer didn't exist, the MSM would have found another guy to fill the exact same role. In fact, David Duke tried hard to get it. But Spencer was conveniently in the DC metro area and even got a special haircut. (Though I recall a few of his dozens of MSM profiles being in a picturesque SWPL resort town in Montana. Not much of a hardship assignment.)

    The work permits are 90% of the harm of DACA. These people are generally well screened, organized enough to save money and paperwork to complete the DACA application, want an on-the-books job, and spent part or most of their formative years in the USA. They have always been extremely low deportation priorities. Repealing the DACA order would not result in them being deported, it would result in them losing work eligibility.

    I’m getting more and more angry, the more I think about this. Trump is in effect affirmatively granting executive amnesty to illegal foreign workers. This is worse than mere inaction, it is action in favor or illegals. What happened to Hire American? And what has he actually accomplished in terms of affirmative steps to restrict immigration?

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  29. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Betsy DeVos amplified:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/10/ed-secretary-betsy-devos-illegal-students-should-not-be-concerned-about-losing-in-state-tuition/

    Ed Secretary Betsy DeVos: Illegal ‘Students Should Not Be Concerned’ About Losing In-State Tuition

    Well, as you well know [immigration] is an issue that’s been widely discussed within the administration and I yesterday referred to [Homeland Security Secretary] Gen. [John F.] Kelly’s comments about the fact that [undocumented] students should not be concerned. They should continue to focus on their studies and continue to pursue their educations. The administration is very supportive of states setting their direction and I would say that would be consistent here [for in-state tuition], too.

    “In-state tuition” — is that where illegals pay much less than out-of-staters to go to Berkeley, or am I mistaken?

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  30. Princess Ivanka and Jared (“Jarvanka’) are working hard to turn Trump into a one-term President. The public dissing of Bannon truly showed Trump to be the s-o-b he is. I voted for the America First agenda, not for the Jarvanka-Cohn platform.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    It's been less than a hundred days and you're already calling him a SOB?
    , @anon

    showed Trump to be the s-o-b he is
     
    Everything about him has changed - body language, behavior etc.

    The simplest and most likely explanation is they bugged him and got something to control him with.
  31. @syonredux

    Do you have an opinion on James Bond movies? The two most recent ones have been fairly nationalistic, particularly Skyfall. Interesting given Brexit and all. Mostly white casts too.
     
    You must have not noticed the Black Miss Moneypenny.....

    1. I said mostly white cast.

    2. She’s the only minority among the main cast.

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  32. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Sessions seems to be the only one doing anything. I wonder how long it’s going to take for Trump’s cadre of Jewish NY liberals to get round to the old boy from Alabama.

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  33. @Rod1963
    I think Trump backed up when he saw he couldn't get anything past the activist federal judges.

    If he goes after DACA illegals, every federal judge will probably issue a stay and that will be that.

    The sad thing is, anyone who saw how the Left stacked the deck against whites and America, could see this coming given how the Left rigged the legal system against traditional American values, including Christianity and white males for decades.

    That's why I had little faith that Trump could make dramatic changes even if he stayed the course.

    The system prevents it. It prevents real reform.

    We either break the system or it destroys us given enough time and it will all be legal because some clown in a robe says so like some tin pot dictator with a flimsy rationale.

    This, plus the fact that even a Republican congress won’t try to limit immigration. Hopefully Trump can get some things through, Jeff Sessions is still AG and seems to be all over it, but I wouldn’t hold my breath for the wall or some of the other big promises. Maybe after he gets a few wins under his belt.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    This, plus the fact that even a Republican congress won’t try to limit immigration.

    The administration has got to put them to the test. Force them to vote against Hire American, against the signature issue that carried this president into power. Put it to them, with Trump on the stump, rallying support across the country.
  34. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Rod1963
    I think Trump backed up when he saw he couldn't get anything past the activist federal judges.

    If he goes after DACA illegals, every federal judge will probably issue a stay and that will be that.

    The sad thing is, anyone who saw how the Left stacked the deck against whites and America, could see this coming given how the Left rigged the legal system against traditional American values, including Christianity and white males for decades.

    That's why I had little faith that Trump could make dramatic changes even if he stayed the course.

    The system prevents it. It prevents real reform.

    We either break the system or it destroys us given enough time and it will all be legal because some clown in a robe says so like some tin pot dictator with a flimsy rationale.

    I think Trump backed up when he saw he couldn’t get anything past the activist federal judges.

    If he goes after DACA illegals, every federal judge will probably issue a stay and that will be that.

    All the 4D chess commentators contended that by throwing the Muslim ban at the liberal judiciary Trump was testing and exposing the enemy while waiting for Gorsuch to be confirmed so he can go full hog.

    Then Trump supposedly got impatient with the lack of results (on the ban, and on healthcare) and sidelined Bannon and Miller.

    Just like the 4D move was that Ryan was being given enough rope to hang himself over healthcare… but as it turns out, Bannon got the blame.

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  35. @Lot

    He isn’t omnipotent.
     
    He had the power of the presidency and a large faction of Congress. I'd be content if he tried.

    And that begs the question of how much power the Trump presidency has had, considering unpopularity, backstabbing from own party, impeachment threat, unprecedented media hostility, Russia bs, opposition from courts.

    I’ll say this though:

    I sense a growing risk that the endgame for Trump (or for some of the family members that most influence his presidency) becomes the mere survival of his brand for the next four years, long enough to get out of the politics business and avoid business ruin.

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  36. @Rod1963
    I think Trump backed up when he saw he couldn't get anything past the activist federal judges.

    If he goes after DACA illegals, every federal judge will probably issue a stay and that will be that.

    The sad thing is, anyone who saw how the Left stacked the deck against whites and America, could see this coming given how the Left rigged the legal system against traditional American values, including Christianity and white males for decades.

    That's why I had little faith that Trump could make dramatic changes even if he stayed the course.

    The system prevents it. It prevents real reform.

    We either break the system or it destroys us given enough time and it will all be legal because some clown in a robe says so like some tin pot dictator with a flimsy rationale.

    If he goes after DACA illegals, every federal judge will probably issue a stay and that will be that.

    Surely he could have at least revoked the Obama order that is granting with each passing day NEW work permits to DACA illegals. Wasn’t that supposed to have been done on Day One?

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  37. Okay so he overturns DACA and then what? The Marxists run to the mandarins in black dresses in the Ninth Circus who invent law and expand the 14th Amd to the world.

    Things on the ground level are changing. I know that doesn’t reach the blackpilled eeyore crowd here but I have more faith in the strategy of a billionaire who overcame all odds to win than the bitchy sniping of a blogger (and his hanger ons) rattling the PayPal tin cup for donations.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Okay so he overturns DACA and then what? The Marxists run to the mandarins in black dresses in the Ninth Circus who invent law and expand the 14th Amd to the world.

    Make them try it. I don't see the 14th Amendmemt grounds.

    And why the hell haven't they taken any steps on eVerify??
    , @Lot

    The Marxists run to the mandarins in black dresses in the Ninth Circus who invent law and expand the 14th Amd to the world.
     
    Some liberal groups could and probably would try to take Trump to court, however even most of the liberal judges would not go for "It is Unconstitutional to Revoke a Prior EO." That's just really absurd. Was Obama violating the Constitution too, along with every other president prior, for not doing DACA his first term?

    Also, Trump's statements about shutting down Muslim immigration created a case he was violating the Establishment Clause. Not a good one, but at least plausible.
    , @BenKenobi
    I appreciate your hope spots, Jack.

    Like Mulder -- I want to believe.
  38. @Steve Sailer
    Should I go see the latest Fast and Furious movie?

    “Should I go see the latest Fast and Furious movie?”
    Considering your half-arsed Paul Walker obituary, yes, you deserve to watch FF8.

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  39. @Anonymous

    How much of his media whoring and claiming to speak for others are responsible for the DACA reticence, and for Bannon’s being on the way out?
     
    Speaking of symptoms of Bannon being sidelined, is this another?

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/steve-bannon-trump-tower-interview-trumps-strategist-plots-new-political-movement-948747


    [BANNON:] I'm the guy pushing a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan. With negative interest rates throughout the world, it's the greatest opportunity to rebuild everything. Shipyards, ironworks, get them all jacked up. We're just going to throw it up against the wall and see if it sticks. It will be as exciting as the 1930s, greater than the Reagan revolution — conservatives, plus populists, in an economic nationalist movement.
     
    (And then Trump spent all his economic nationalist bargaining chips with China on the North Koreans.)

    http://theweek.com/articles/691606/president-trumps-infrastructure-betrayal


    With a bit of thought and political effort, we could have trains that were at least not an abject national humiliation ... Proudly breaking ground on a cheap, efficient new high-speed train would fit perfectly with Trump's self-image as the man who gets big projects done on time, under budget, and properly.

    But his budget proposes slashing spending both for Amtrak and federal rail spending. He'd make our already dismal system much worse — and not just in the Northeast Corridor; the cuts also mean completely cutting off passenger rail service to 220 cities.
     

    I’d rather see them focus on immigration than infrastructure. Quicker, easier, fewer opportunities to screw up. Just stop issuing work visas. Just step up enforcement activities.

    Why the hell didn’t they make immigration legislation their first move: eVerify, elimination of certain classes of legal immigrant visas?

    We’re going to need to focus our political pressure apparently. It should be on immigration, at least for now.

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  40. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @MG
    Princess Ivanka and Jared ("Jarvanka') are working hard to turn Trump into a one-term President. The public dissing of Bannon truly showed Trump to be the s-o-b he is. I voted for the America First agenda, not for the Jarvanka-Cohn platform.

    It’s been less than a hundred days and you’re already calling him a SOB?

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  41. @Jack Hanson
    Okay so he overturns DACA and then what? The Marxists run to the mandarins in black dresses in the Ninth Circus who invent law and expand the 14th Amd to the world.

    Things on the ground level are changing. I know that doesn't reach the blackpilled eeyore crowd here but I have more faith in the strategy of a billionaire who overcame all odds to win than the bitchy sniping of a blogger (and his hanger ons) rattling the PayPal tin cup for donations.

    Okay so he overturns DACA and then what? The Marxists run to the mandarins in black dresses in the Ninth Circus who invent law and expand the 14th Amd to the world.

    Make them try it. I don’t see the 14th Amendmemt grounds.

    And why the hell haven’t they taken any steps on eVerify??

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    Are you kidding? The 14th Amd is the du jour "whatever I want it to mean whenever I want it to mean it" go to weapon in the leftist arsenal.

    They already did try it, if you weren't paying attention. I imagine they have held off on e-verify for the same reason: so some leftist in a black dress doesn't issue a nationwide injunction.
  42. @Nope
    This, plus the fact that even a Republican congress won't try to limit immigration. Hopefully Trump can get some things through, Jeff Sessions is still AG and seems to be all over it, but I wouldn't hold my breath for the wall or some of the other big promises. Maybe after he gets a few wins under his belt.

    This, plus the fact that even a Republican congress won’t try to limit immigration.

    The administration has got to put them to the test. Force them to vote against Hire American, against the signature issue that carried this president into power. Put it to them, with Trump on the stump, rallying support across the country.

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  43. @Opinionator
    Repealing the DACA order would not result in them being deported, it would result in them losing work eligibility.

    Are you of the view the order should be repealed?

    If Richard Spencer didn’t exist, the MSM would have found another guy to fill the exact same role.

    Unlike Spencer, Duke has not presented himself to the media as a leader of the Alt Right, a grouping of people that were closely identified with Trump's campaign and with Bannon's company, Breitbart. Duke to my knowledge has not recently given Nazi salutes while purporting to speak for the Alt Right. Nor has he advocated for ethnic cleansing in the United States.

    Are you of the view the order should be repealed?

    DACA was completely illegal. Trump had a moral and constitutional obligation to revoke it the day he assumed office. Many people thought that he would do so. This is one of his many sell outs.

    The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals struck down Obama’s second and much larger executive amnesty as illegal. It is illegal in three different ways.

    The states sued to prevent DAPA’s implementation on three grounds. First, they asserted that DAPA violated the procedural requirements of the APA as a substantive rule that did not undergo the requisite notice-and-comment rulemaking. Second, the states claimed that DHS lacked the authority to implement the program even if it followed the correct rulemaking process, such that DAPA was substantively unlawful under the APA. Third, the states urged that DAPA was an abrogation of the President’s constitutional duty to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” U.S. CONST. art. II, § 3.

    Maybe amnesty for “Dreamers” is a compromise that can be made in return for concessions like ending the diversity lottery. But Trump does not care about these issues, so he has never made any indication he will offer such a proposal. Instead he will just continue with Obama’s illegal executive amnesty.

    Unlike Spencer, Duke has not…

    OK, I agree that Spencer was a uniquely convenient and slick media whore, and did a better job than Duke or other alternatives would have. So yes that probably hurt Trump a little. But the MSM could and would have found probably a rotating cast of a few to fill Spencer’s shoes and who’d say anything he said. And they would have found tenuous links to SKB and Breitbart.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Probably significantly more tenuous.

    Bannon never called Breitbart "the platform of David Duke."
  44. On the matter of DACA work permit issuance–and further to Steve’s point about negotiating leverage–Trump is giving away something for free that he could have used to trade for something.

    (I’m not saying DACA illegals should necessarily be legalized.)

    Unbelievable.

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  45. Interesting excerpt from new WaPo article on Bannon and White House shifts:

    Trump’s three oldest children — Donald Jr., Ivanka and Eric — and Kushner have been frustrated by the impression of chaos inside the White House and feel that their father has not always been served well by his senior staff, according to people with knowledge of their sentiments. The Trump heirs are interested in any changes that might help resuscitate the presidency and preserve the family’s name at a time when they are trying to expand the Trump Organization’s portfolio of hotels.

    “The fundamental assessment is that if they want to win the White House in 2020, they’re not going to do it the way they did in 2016, because the family brand would not sustain the collateral damage,” said one well-connected Republican operative, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the president’s family. “It would be so protectionist, nationalist and backward-looking that they’d only be able to build in Oklahoma City or the Ozarks.”

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    Link:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/inside-bannons-struggle-from-shadow-president-to-trumps-marked-man/2017/04/12/1f5aabc0-1f99-11e7-ad74-3a742a6e93a7_story.html
    , @IHTG
    Reeks of fake news.
  46. @Jack Hanson
    Okay so he overturns DACA and then what? The Marxists run to the mandarins in black dresses in the Ninth Circus who invent law and expand the 14th Amd to the world.

    Things on the ground level are changing. I know that doesn't reach the blackpilled eeyore crowd here but I have more faith in the strategy of a billionaire who overcame all odds to win than the bitchy sniping of a blogger (and his hanger ons) rattling the PayPal tin cup for donations.

    The Marxists run to the mandarins in black dresses in the Ninth Circus who invent law and expand the 14th Amd to the world.

    Some liberal groups could and probably would try to take Trump to court, however even most of the liberal judges would not go for “It is Unconstitutional to Revoke a Prior EO.” That’s just really absurd. Was Obama violating the Constitution too, along with every other president prior, for not doing DACA his first term?

    Also, Trump’s statements about shutting down Muslim immigration created a case he was violating the Establishment Clause. Not a good one, but at least plausible.

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    "Liberals judges would not go for.."

    Okay thanks for telling me you haven't been paying attention at all lately. Good to have some confirmation.
  47. @Lot

    Are you of the view the order should be repealed?
     
    DACA was completely illegal. Trump had a moral and constitutional obligation to revoke it the day he assumed office. Many people thought that he would do so. This is one of his many sell outs.

    The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals struck down Obama's second and much larger executive amnesty as illegal. It is illegal in three different ways.


    The states sued to prevent DAPA’s implementation on three grounds. First, they asserted that DAPA violated the procedural requirements of the APA as a substantive rule that did not undergo the requisite notice-and-comment rulemaking. Second, the states claimed that DHS lacked the authority to implement the program even if it followed the correct rulemaking process, such that DAPA was substantively unlawful under the APA. Third, the states urged that DAPA was an abrogation of the President’s constitutional duty to “take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” U.S. CONST. art. II, § 3.
     
    Maybe amnesty for "Dreamers" is a compromise that can be made in return for concessions like ending the diversity lottery. But Trump does not care about these issues, so he has never made any indication he will offer such a proposal. Instead he will just continue with Obama's illegal executive amnesty.

    Unlike Spencer, Duke has not...
     
    OK, I agree that Spencer was a uniquely convenient and slick media whore, and did a better job than Duke or other alternatives would have. So yes that probably hurt Trump a little. But the MSM could and would have found probably a rotating cast of a few to fill Spencer's shoes and who'd say anything he said. And they would have found tenuous links to SKB and Breitbart.

    Probably significantly more tenuous.

    Bannon never called Breitbart “the platform of David Duke.”

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  48. @Opinionator
    Interesting excerpt from new WaPo article on Bannon and White House shifts:

    Trump’s three oldest children — Donald Jr., Ivanka and Eric — and Kushner have been frustrated by the impression of chaos inside the White House and feel that their father has not always been served well by his senior staff, according to people with knowledge of their sentiments. The Trump heirs are interested in any changes that might help resuscitate the presidency and preserve the family’s name at a time when they are trying to expand the Trump Organization’s portfolio of hotels.

    “The fundamental assessment is that if they want to win the White House in 2020, they’re not going to do it the way they did in 2016, because the family brand would not sustain the collateral damage,” said one well-connected Republican operative, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the president’s family. “It would be so protectionist, nationalist and backward-looking that they’d only be able to build in Oklahoma City or the Ozarks.”
     
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  49. At first I thought Trump was going to use DACA as leverage to negotiate for a massive lawful immigration reduction, but he sidestepped the raise act in favor of RyanCare. He shows no interest in helping us. It’s too bad, too, because Savage and Limbaugh were pushing legal immigration reduction that week Cotton made his proposal. Trump could have had a big win. It just seem like his main campaign promise is not that much of a priority for him.

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  50. Why isn’t, at minimum, the Trump Administration bargaining to get concessions from them on other immigration policies?

    What other policies? They’re not legislating immigration yet. When they do, maybe they will.

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    Do you agree with the decision to postpone immigration legislation?
  51. @Jack Hanson
    Okay so he overturns DACA and then what? The Marxists run to the mandarins in black dresses in the Ninth Circus who invent law and expand the 14th Amd to the world.

    Things on the ground level are changing. I know that doesn't reach the blackpilled eeyore crowd here but I have more faith in the strategy of a billionaire who overcame all odds to win than the bitchy sniping of a blogger (and his hanger ons) rattling the PayPal tin cup for donations.

    I appreciate your hope spots, Jack.

    Like Mulder — I want to believe.

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    Its easy to be an eeyore when your business model has been crying how doomed we are in between "Buy my book" and paypal while assuming every event occurs in a bubble. Sessions SWB speech was huge - felony 1326, not 1326a1, is amazing but got no play here because:
    A) people aren't in tune to the nuts and bolts of immigration like they believe
    B) its a lot easier to be a blackpilled eeyore than critically think

    People assume the last 30+ years of neoliberal politics are going to be turned around on a dime. But hey, smartest blog on the internet. Just ask these guys here who were telling us Hillary was a shoe in on November 6th.

  52. @IHTG

    Why isn’t, at minimum, the Trump Administration bargaining to get concessions from them on other immigration policies?
     
    What other policies? They're not legislating immigration yet. When they do, maybe they will.

    Do you agree with the decision to postpone immigration legislation?

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    • Replies: @IHTG
    I don't know enough about what's going on with that to express an opinion.

    Instead of guessing, how about somebody email Cotton and Perdue and ask them what's going on with their RAISE Act?

  53. @Opinionator
    Interesting excerpt from new WaPo article on Bannon and White House shifts:

    Trump’s three oldest children — Donald Jr., Ivanka and Eric — and Kushner have been frustrated by the impression of chaos inside the White House and feel that their father has not always been served well by his senior staff, according to people with knowledge of their sentiments. The Trump heirs are interested in any changes that might help resuscitate the presidency and preserve the family’s name at a time when they are trying to expand the Trump Organization’s portfolio of hotels.

    “The fundamental assessment is that if they want to win the White House in 2020, they’re not going to do it the way they did in 2016, because the family brand would not sustain the collateral damage,” said one well-connected Republican operative, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the president’s family. “It would be so protectionist, nationalist and backward-looking that they’d only be able to build in Oklahoma City or the Ozarks.”
     

    Reeks of fake news.

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  54. @Lot

    The Marxists run to the mandarins in black dresses in the Ninth Circus who invent law and expand the 14th Amd to the world.
     
    Some liberal groups could and probably would try to take Trump to court, however even most of the liberal judges would not go for "It is Unconstitutional to Revoke a Prior EO." That's just really absurd. Was Obama violating the Constitution too, along with every other president prior, for not doing DACA his first term?

    Also, Trump's statements about shutting down Muslim immigration created a case he was violating the Establishment Clause. Not a good one, but at least plausible.

    “Liberals judges would not go for..”

    Okay thanks for telling me you haven’t been paying attention at all lately. Good to have some confirmation.

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    • Replies: @Lot
    I've read the EO briefs and opinions.

    Why do we not just give up on everything? Hay ho, librul judges gonna be dictators anyway.

  55. @Opinionator
    Okay so he overturns DACA and then what? The Marxists run to the mandarins in black dresses in the Ninth Circus who invent law and expand the 14th Amd to the world.

    Make them try it. I don't see the 14th Amendmemt grounds.

    And why the hell haven't they taken any steps on eVerify??

    Are you kidding? The 14th Amd is the du jour “whatever I want it to mean whenever I want it to mean it” go to weapon in the leftist arsenal.

    They already did try it, if you weren’t paying attention. I imagine they have held off on e-verify for the same reason: so some leftist in a black dress doesn’t issue a nationwide injunction.

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  56. @Opinionator
    Do you agree with the decision to postpone immigration legislation?

    I don’t know enough about what’s going on with that to express an opinion.

    Instead of guessing, how about somebody email Cotton and Perdue and ask them what’s going on with their RAISE Act?

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  57. @BenKenobi
    I appreciate your hope spots, Jack.

    Like Mulder -- I want to believe.

    Its easy to be an eeyore when your business model has been crying how doomed we are in between “Buy my book” and paypal while assuming every event occurs in a bubble. Sessions SWB speech was huge – felony 1326, not 1326a1, is amazing but got no play here because:
    A) people aren’t in tune to the nuts and bolts of immigration like they believe
    B) its a lot easier to be a blackpilled eeyore than critically think

    People assume the last 30+ years of neoliberal politics are going to be turned around on a dime. But hey, smartest blog on the internet. Just ask these guys here who were telling us Hillary was a shoe in on November 6th.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    So for commenters to the smartest blog on the Internet:

    What should President Trump's immigration strategy be going forward?
  58. @Opinionator
    Spencer hasn't move the Overton Window. He's only tainted a lot of innocent people. You people treat your Overton Window theory like its the law of gravity. If it works like you say, maybe Spencer should come out in favor of forcibly deporting all illegal immigrants on cattle cars. Hell, maybe he should come out for the expulsion of all non-Whites (citizens and non-citizens) from the United States.

    In the case of Bannon, Spencer provided a link (a fatuous one), to a willing media, between Bannon and White Supremacism, and even Nazism.

    maybe Spencer should come out in favor of forcibly deporting all illegal immigrants on cattle cars

    Not cattle cars, planes.

    Flight carrying some 150 migrants part of Israel’s operation Returning Home

    About 150 South Sudanese citizens left Israel early Sunday morning, part of Israel’s attempt to repatriate African migrants who have found their way inside its borders …

    … The flight to Juba, the capital of the fledlging state of South Sudan, took off after a goodbye ceremony put on by activists and aid workers at South Tel Aviv’s Levinsky Park.

    … More than 100 illegal migrants from South Sudan were rounded up in immigration control sweeps in the past week.

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  59. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @MG
    Princess Ivanka and Jared ("Jarvanka') are working hard to turn Trump into a one-term President. The public dissing of Bannon truly showed Trump to be the s-o-b he is. I voted for the America First agenda, not for the Jarvanka-Cohn platform.

    showed Trump to be the s-o-b he is

    Everything about him has changed – body language, behavior etc.

    The simplest and most likely explanation is they bugged him and got something to control him with.

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    • LOL: IHTG
    • Replies: @OFWHAP
    Maybe the Russia stuff is legit, but the Deep State or whomever cut a deal with Trump to keep him out of prison as long as he's willing to play ball.
  60. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Opinionator
    My first reaction is in line with yours Steve. In other words, this is unbelievable--why does Kelly even need to say one way or the other right now?

    But his comments may reflect just how badly wounded this White House is at the moment and it's need to preemptively assuage sore spots.

    It is my understanding that there is another aspect of DACA that the White House has fallen down on. That is the ongoing issuance of DACA work permits to DACA illegals. Deportation can be seen as a separate question. Apparently, Trump promised to end this executive practice on Day 1. He has not done so. Instead, they are issuing thousands each day.

    Man, Richard Spencer has caused untold damage to this administration with all his self-aggrandizing antics. How much of his media whoring and claiming to speak for others are responsible for the DACA reticence, and for Bannon's being on the way out?

    Richard Spencer has caused untold damage to this administration with all his self-aggrandizing antics

    Given the array of opposing forces include
    - banking mafia
    - media
    - most billionaire oligarchs
    - an almost totally corrupted political class
    singling out Spencer is ludicrous.

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  61. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Nope
    The country has changed and there really is no going back. Best case scenario was that Trump could slow it down for 4 or 5 years. That looks like wishful thinking now.

    On a somewhat lighter note, any movie reviews in the offing Steve?

    The country has changed and there really is no going back.

    Sure there is.

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  62. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @syonredux

    I doubt that Spencer really harmed Trump, what with moving the Overton window and all.
     
    Has the "Overton Window" actually moved? When it comes to immigration?

    Has the “Overton Window” actually moved? When it comes to immigration?

    Yes – obviously.

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  63. Does anyone here think the MSM basically did a hit on Bannon by playing up what a great manipulator he was and how he was the power behind the throne, thus annoying Trump?

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    • Replies: @Anon7
    You bet they did. I've never seen such a brutal, unrelenting attack on a few individuals. It takes an incredible amount of fortitude to stand up to the tidal wave of anger and ostracism stirred up by the MSM.

    I don't think President Trump (always say "President Trump", you can't believe how much it galls Democrats and the left!) is that much affected by the media, because if there is anybody who understands how the MSM works, it's President Donald Trump. (You can change it up by saying "Commander-in-Chief Donald J. Trump", try it, it feels great.)

    I still think that the best way to combat it is to threaten the value of MSM media properties with well-publicized boycotts. Stop your subscriptions, turn away and turn away again; don't click on their pages.
    , @Jasper Been
    Maybe. But who/what forces wanted Bannon banished so badly?

    BTW all of you complaining about Richard Spencer need to snap out of it. He's basically a marginal character. Trump is the president and he should be held accountable for what he has done or not done while in office.
    , @Laugh Track

    Does anyone here think the MSM basically did a hit on Bannon by playing up what a great manipulator he was and how he was the power behind the throne, thus annoying Trump?
     
    With the WaPo implying that Bannon got demoted for being on a Time Magazine cover, we can now see that TPTB and MSM can seriously damage those in Trump's circle who they deplore the most by playing them up and putting them on a Time cover. I didn't even realize that people still pay any attention to Time.

    Then again, this may all be further MSM psy-ops.
  64. Most likely Princess Ivanka has forbidden daddy to engage in any such uncouth behavior that would discomfort her liberal sensibilities!

    So, where’s she been for, oh, her entire life? Trump’s been the American symbol of rich tackiness for how long now?

    Reeks of fake news.

    Pretty much all the Big Media reporting on the administration reeks of fake news. It’s really astounding, the disappearance of the quote. The scribblers just scribble whatever the like now, like there’s an amnesty on making shit up.

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  65. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Rod1963
    I think Trump backed up when he saw he couldn't get anything past the activist federal judges.

    If he goes after DACA illegals, every federal judge will probably issue a stay and that will be that.

    The sad thing is, anyone who saw how the Left stacked the deck against whites and America, could see this coming given how the Left rigged the legal system against traditional American values, including Christianity and white males for decades.

    That's why I had little faith that Trump could make dramatic changes even if he stayed the course.

    The system prevents it. It prevents real reform.

    We either break the system or it destroys us given enough time and it will all be legal because some clown in a robe says so like some tin pot dictator with a flimsy rationale.

    We either break the system or it destroys us given enough time and it will all be legal because some clown in a robe says so like some tin pot dictator with a flimsy rationale.

    I think the choices are either we break the system or it plows into an iceberg and sinks with (almost) all hands.

    #

    my predictions

    1) the banking mafia will behave like other parasites and as they kill their previous host they will try to move to another

    2) they’ve moved most of the west’s productive capacity off-shore, mainly to China so that is their likely next victim/base of operations

    3) the banking mafia like to have a single power to act as their debt collector and enforcer which they control from behind the scenes so they don’t want a multi-polar world

    so how would they get from where we are now to a world where they are the power behind the scenes of China as a single global power?

    1) the Western economy is hanging by a thread of debt which they can cut at any time causing a global crash

    2) Europe is being set up for a Holodomor when the crash comes so that’s that

    3) America might actually survive a crash cos land, resources etc and Russia, China definitely would so

    4) incite a nuclear exchange between Russia and the US leaving China (they hope) as their tame enforcer

    however before that

    5) they won’t want a nuke power adjacent to their new base so use America’s waning military might to take out North Korea before the crash

    6) ditto using the US to take out Israel’s perceived enemies before either the crash or the Russia vs US conflict

    obviously the nuclear exchange part is the hardest to believe but if they don’t think it will cause a nuclear winter then they’d do it imo.

    so…oppose or prep or both cos they’re gonna do it

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  66. @Nope
    The country has changed and there really is no going back. Best case scenario was that Trump could slow it down for 4 or 5 years. That looks like wishful thinking now.

    On a somewhat lighter note, any movie reviews in the offing Steve?

    The country has changed and there really is no going back. Best case scenario was that Trump could slow it down for 4 or 5 years. That looks like wishful thinking now.

    Yes. Trump’s most important task is appointing conservative (for lack of a better term) judges. Gorsuch was an excellent start. That’s about the only thing he can do that Dems and RINOs can’t undo as soon as they get power back in their hands (assuming they haven’t already).

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Betsy DeVos has been as maligned by this blog as she has been by MoveOn and Media Matters but she is already preparing some positive changes. She's appointed a Rothbard-loving attorney who is opposed to affirmative action and race based preferences as head of the Civil Rights Office

    https://www.propublica.org/article/devos-candice-jackson-civil-rights-office-education-department
  67. Every person in the country illegally must leave.

    I think that’s a good policy statement. If you want to figure out whom to blame for the people who were brought here as children, it seems like “the parents” is a correct answer. I’m responsible for my children, why aren’t illegal immigrants responsible for theirs?

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    • Replies: @Buck Turgidson
    AMEN.

    and if I can piggyback on this one, AMEN to Charles Pewitt. WTH is Trump doing on immigration? If Steve King is unhappy, I am unhappy. How about a full moratorium? I thought Trump was tough? He needs to send his friggin daughter on a 6-month goodwill tour of the 3rd world, or somewhere. She is getting on my nerves.

  68. @syonredux

    I doubt that Spencer really harmed Trump, what with moving the Overton window and all.
     
    Has the "Overton Window" actually moved? When it comes to immigration?

    Sadly, no. When Obama proclaimed DACA the Republicans made noises about it being unconstitutional (ie the chief executive refusing to execute the law). Today, ending DACA is considered the radical course of action.

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  69. @Chrisnonymous

    Where in your copy of The Art of the Deal does it say you should just concede for free whatever your counterpart wants most?
     
    The same part where it says, when you and your counterpart want the same thing, don't fight them.

    Where in your copy of The Art of the Deal does it say you should just concede for free whatever your counterpart wants most?

    The same part where it says, when you and your counterpart want the same thing, don’t fight them.

    Well, there is the idea of strategic misrepresentation. For example, see Howard Raiffa’s The Art & Science of Negotiation pp. 142-145.

    Do you have a real reference to The Art of the Deal that discusses either concept?

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  70. @SFG
    Does anyone here think the MSM basically did a hit on Bannon by playing up what a great manipulator he was and how he was the power behind the throne, thus annoying Trump?

    You bet they did. I’ve never seen such a brutal, unrelenting attack on a few individuals. It takes an incredible amount of fortitude to stand up to the tidal wave of anger and ostracism stirred up by the MSM.

    I don’t think President Trump (always say “President Trump”, you can’t believe how much it galls Democrats and the left!) is that much affected by the media, because if there is anybody who understands how the MSM works, it’s President Donald Trump. (You can change it up by saying “Commander-in-Chief Donald J. Trump”, try it, it feels great.)

    I still think that the best way to combat it is to threaten the value of MSM media properties with well-publicized boycotts. Stop your subscriptions, turn away and turn away again; don’t click on their pages.

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  71. Brenda Walker of VDare is right: LEGALIZATION IS THE AMNESTY

    REGULARIZATION IS THE AMNESTY

    President Trump must begin deporting all illegal aliens immediately. Any actions involving non-deportation will be seen as granting de facto amnesty for illegal aliens. President Trump must not display cowardice or weakness on the immigration issue.

    Attorney General Jeff Sessions must begin deportation raids in the so-called “sanctuary cities” or “sanctuary jurisdictions.” Sanctuary jurisdictions must no longer be allowed to harbor illegal alien invaders or hinder the apprehension of illegal alien invaders. Politicians in Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Boston or other so-called “sanctuary cities” or “sanctuary jurisdictions” who defy the immigration laws of the United States must be arrested and sent to prison.

    President Trump must immediately call a halt to the refugee resettlement racket that is destroying many parts of the United States. REFUGEE OVERLOAD is swamping schools, increasing housing costs, overwhelming hospitals, increasing income inequality and bringing Islamic terrorism to the United States.

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  72. @Lot

    Should I go see the latest Fast and Furious movie?
     
    Your readers likely watch a lot more 2+ year old movies at home than go out and see new releases at a theater.

    Your readers likely watch a lot more 2+ year old movies at home than go out and see new releases at a theater.

    Perhaps, but if he/we are patient he can satisfy both groups by reviewing new releases. Although web searches work well an index of iSteve movie reviews would be handy.

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  73. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Spencer = FBI

    Trump is a real estate hype artist. Yuge liar.

    We have Immigration Theater again just like the Bush years with lowlife Drudge sprinkling his page with bs headlines touting fictional enforcement…

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  74. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    The scope of Trump’s betrayal spread out this week like aggressive cancer. Everything is on the table apparently.

    How can we “soften” on China and still make America great again? We can’t. Along with illegals, China is the main threat to our economic well being.

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  75. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Trump has some deep psychopathology going on re the nepotism. It is disgusting and embarrassing. More importantly it’s extremely damaging because J&I are incompetent policy advisors.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    That's how Trump rolls and that's how he always has rolled. The alt-right and its allies got majorly cucked by Trump.

    Maybe you should have supported Cruz instead and ignored the hype?
  76. Steve King is respectfully wondering just what the hell President Trump is doing on immigration. Voters who supported President Trump because they thought Trump would reduce legal immigration and stop illegal immigration are wondering the same thing.

    President Trump has allowed the refugee resettlement racket to continue without change. REFUGEE OVERLOAD is harming many parts of the United States.

    President Trump has not begun the deportation of illegal alien invaders on a scale necessary to solve the problem. ALL illegal aliens must be deported. No exceptions.

    President Trump should call for an immediate moratorium on all immigration into the United States. Mass legal immigration increases housing costs, lowers wages, harms the environment, causes urban sprawl, destroys cultural cohesion, increases income inequality and allows Islamic terrorist infiltration of the United States.

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  77. @SFG
    Does anyone here think the MSM basically did a hit on Bannon by playing up what a great manipulator he was and how he was the power behind the throne, thus annoying Trump?

    Maybe. But who/what forces wanted Bannon banished so badly?

    BTW all of you complaining about Richard Spencer need to snap out of it. He’s basically a marginal character. Trump is the president and he should be held accountable for what he has done or not done while in office.

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  78. @anon

    Richard Spencer has caused untold damage to this administration with all his self-aggrandizing antics
     
    Given the array of opposing forces include
    - banking mafia
    - media
    - most billionaire oligarchs
    - an almost totally corrupted political class
    singling out Spencer is ludicrous.

    Yes, thank you.

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  79. @Anon7
    Every person in the country illegally must leave.

    I think that's a good policy statement. If you want to figure out whom to blame for the people who were brought here as children, it seems like "the parents" is a correct answer. I'm responsible for my children, why aren't illegal immigrants responsible for theirs?

    AMEN.

    and if I can piggyback on this one, AMEN to Charles Pewitt. WTH is Trump doing on immigration? If Steve King is unhappy, I am unhappy. How about a full moratorium? I thought Trump was tough? He needs to send his friggin daughter on a 6-month goodwill tour of the 3rd world, or somewhere. She is getting on my nerves.

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  80. @Lot
    Trump is not a chump, we are for thinking he'd be any sort of traitor to his billionaire class. He's not. He has no compunction about breaking explicit anti-establishment promises he made during this campaign. He demoted and publicly insulted Bannon and has put his fellow real estate heir Kushner in charge along with Goldman Sachs #2 Gary Cohn. Paul Ryan is running his domestic policy.

    It certainly appears that you are correct. In less than three months, he’s shown himself to be just another lying, scumbag politician.

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  81. From his book,

    I wasn’t looking to force these guys to make such bad deals that they’d lose money

    Trump is acting with a view to getting the Supreme Court nod and a second term.

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  82. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Clark Westwood

    The country has changed and there really is no going back. Best case scenario was that Trump could slow it down for 4 or 5 years. That looks like wishful thinking now.
     
    Yes. Trump's most important task is appointing conservative (for lack of a better term) judges. Gorsuch was an excellent start. That's about the only thing he can do that Dems and RINOs can't undo as soon as they get power back in their hands (assuming they haven't already).

    Betsy DeVos has been as maligned by this blog as she has been by MoveOn and Media Matters but she is already preparing some positive changes. She’s appointed a Rothbard-loving attorney who is opposed to affirmative action and race based preferences as head of the Civil Rights Office

    https://www.propublica.org/article/devos-candice-jackson-civil-rights-office-education-department

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    • Replies: @Lot
    I actually suggested DeVos for the cabinet here before she was appointed. She is one of the better appointments and has loyally been a major funder of the MI GOP.
  83. @Jack Hanson
    "Liberals judges would not go for.."

    Okay thanks for telling me you haven't been paying attention at all lately. Good to have some confirmation.

    I’ve read the EO briefs and opinions.

    Why do we not just give up on everything? Hay ho, librul judges gonna be dictators anyway.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Do you think the 9th Circuit appellate and district court rulings were reasonable?
    , @Jack Hanson
    When you engage in black or white thinking, it really exposes the weakness in your argument.

    Or in other words: maybe you strike when your powder is dry and not die on a hill to impress internet commenter "Lot".
  84. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Anonymous
    Trump has some deep psychopathology going on re the nepotism. It is disgusting and embarrassing. More importantly it's extremely damaging because J&I are incompetent policy advisors.

    That’s how Trump rolls and that’s how he always has rolled. The alt-right and its allies got majorly cucked by Trump.

    Maybe you should have supported Cruz instead and ignored the hype?

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    • Replies: @Lot
    Cruz would have been worse as president. Besides the point though because he would have lost to Hillary. Trump was the least bad option for us.
  85. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Most likely Princess Ivanka has forbidden daddy to engage in any such uncouth behavior that would discomfort her liberal sensibilities!

    We should get rid of Pwincess Ivanka and her Prince Charming. Wanna bet there’s a sex-tape of her or of both just waiting for a righteous altrighter to post on YouTube? Or any kind of dirt? It might be ugly, but it’s a matter of national security to oust those two from the White House.

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  86. @SFG
    Does anyone here think the MSM basically did a hit on Bannon by playing up what a great manipulator he was and how he was the power behind the throne, thus annoying Trump?

    Does anyone here think the MSM basically did a hit on Bannon by playing up what a great manipulator he was and how he was the power behind the throne, thus annoying Trump?

    With the WaPo implying that Bannon got demoted for being on a Time Magazine cover, we can now see that TPTB and MSM can seriously damage those in Trump’s circle who they deplore the most by playing them up and putting them on a Time cover. I didn’t even realize that people still pay any attention to Time.

    Then again, this may all be further MSM psy-ops.

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  87. @Jack Hanson
    Its easy to be an eeyore when your business model has been crying how doomed we are in between "Buy my book" and paypal while assuming every event occurs in a bubble. Sessions SWB speech was huge - felony 1326, not 1326a1, is amazing but got no play here because:
    A) people aren't in tune to the nuts and bolts of immigration like they believe
    B) its a lot easier to be a blackpilled eeyore than critically think

    People assume the last 30+ years of neoliberal politics are going to be turned around on a dime. But hey, smartest blog on the internet. Just ask these guys here who were telling us Hillary was a shoe in on November 6th.

    So for commenters to the smartest blog on the Internet:

    What should President Trump’s immigration strategy be going forward?

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    We will just have to see how it plays out now. I'm willing to give the man a chance versus squealing CUCKED so I can try to one up other commenters for victim Pokemon points here on iSteve. I've discussed some of the changes to DHS Imm Policy, and they don't make a ripple among the people looking to bray on and on about muh doomed.

    Some of you guys are upset because he won't mass deport all 20 million illegal aliens in one day into the ocean. You're going to keep being upset. I'm glad to see he is deporting Somalis ffs.

  88. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    @CPewitt

    The new Goldman Sachs run inner circle of White House advisors is unalterably opposed to Trump’s campaign promises.

    In light of Trump’s campaign promises it’s totally outrageous that there exists such an inner circle.

    Trump’s public vindictive abuse of Bannon harkens back to GWBush prosecuting/jailing those two border agents for doing their job. Just nasty.


    Steve King is respectfully wondering just what the hell President Trump is doing on immigration. Voters who supported President Trump because they thought Trump would reduce legal immigration and stop illegal immigration are wondering the same thing. President Trump has allowed the refugee resettlement racket to continue without change. REFUGEE OVERLOAD is harming many parts of the United States. President Trump has not begun the deportation of illegal alien invaders on a scale necessary to solve the problem. ALL illegal aliens must be deported. No exceptions.

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  89. @Lot
    I've read the EO briefs and opinions.

    Why do we not just give up on everything? Hay ho, librul judges gonna be dictators anyway.

    Do you think the 9th Circuit appellate and district court rulings were reasonable?

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    • Replies: @Lot
    No. They pass the lower standard of colorable however. Many of the judges involved were GOP appointed moderates.

    The reasons the decisions were wrong are explained in the dissent to the denial of en banc review by Judge Bybee. I also think there is a better than 80% chance the SC will stop these stupid stays of EOs.
  90. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    @CWestwood

    So when Obama sat in his radical left wing church… that’s a window into his soul.

    But when Gorsuch sat in his slightly less radical left wing church… that’s not a window into his soul?

    Assume Gorsuch will be hailed by msm as the new Kennedy within five years max. Within say fifteen years he easily could be the new Souter. That is what Gorsuch’s church-going habits point to.


    Trump’s most important task is appointing conservative (for lack of a better term) judges. Gorsuch was an excellent start.

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    I would be concerned if it were not for the fact he has an Episcopalalian minister relative and is just being familiar.
    , @Desiderius

    But when Gorsuch sat in his slightly less radical left wing church… that’s not a window into his soul?
     
    Those churches need to pull their heads out of their asses anyway or we're all screwed. They've been central to our culture since our founding.

    I've seen some encouraging signs of ad fontes type behavior - i.e. a retreat from socjus supremacism.
  91. @Opinionator
    Do you think the 9th Circuit appellate and district court rulings were reasonable?

    No. They pass the lower standard of colorable however. Many of the judges involved were GOP appointed moderates.

    The reasons the decisions were wrong are explained in the dissent to the denial of en banc review by Judge Bybee. I also think there is a better than 80% chance the SC will stop these stupid stays of EOs.

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  92. @Anonymous
    @CWestwood

    So when Obama sat in his radical left wing church... that's a window into his soul.

    But when Gorsuch sat in his slightly less radical left wing church... that's not a window into his soul?

    Assume Gorsuch will be hailed by msm as the new Kennedy within five years max. Within say fifteen years he easily could be the new Souter. That is what Gorsuch's church-going habits point to.



    Trump’s most important task is appointing conservative (for lack of a better term) judges. Gorsuch was an excellent start.

    I would be concerned if it were not for the fact he has an Episcopalalian minister relative and is just being familiar.

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  93. @Anonymous
    Betsy DeVos has been as maligned by this blog as she has been by MoveOn and Media Matters but she is already preparing some positive changes. She's appointed a Rothbard-loving attorney who is opposed to affirmative action and race based preferences as head of the Civil Rights Office

    https://www.propublica.org/article/devos-candice-jackson-civil-rights-office-education-department

    I actually suggested DeVos for the cabinet here before she was appointed. She is one of the better appointments and has loyally been a major funder of the MI GOP.

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  94. @Anonymous
    That's how Trump rolls and that's how he always has rolled. The alt-right and its allies got majorly cucked by Trump.

    Maybe you should have supported Cruz instead and ignored the hype?

    Cruz would have been worse as president. Besides the point though because he would have lost to Hillary. Trump was the least bad option for us.

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  95. @anon

    showed Trump to be the s-o-b he is
     
    Everything about him has changed - body language, behavior etc.

    The simplest and most likely explanation is they bugged him and got something to control him with.

    Maybe the Russia stuff is legit, but the Deep State or whomever cut a deal with Trump to keep him out of prison as long as he’s willing to play ball.

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  96. @Broski
    DACA is a sensitive subject. Mainstream America has mixed feelings about deporting a 21-year-old who came here when his parents illegally immigrated in 1998.

    The local media where I'm from, if not the national, has had repeated stories about DACA recipients in their late teens or early twenties with a DUI or a petty marijuana charge getting picked by ICE.

    Yeah, the children of illegals should profit from their parents’ illegal activity.

    If parents are thieves, then we should allow the kids to keep what was stolen because it would be so unfair to make the kids poor.

    They must go.

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  97. @Anonymous
    @CWestwood

    So when Obama sat in his radical left wing church... that's a window into his soul.

    But when Gorsuch sat in his slightly less radical left wing church... that's not a window into his soul?

    Assume Gorsuch will be hailed by msm as the new Kennedy within five years max. Within say fifteen years he easily could be the new Souter. That is what Gorsuch's church-going habits point to.



    Trump’s most important task is appointing conservative (for lack of a better term) judges. Gorsuch was an excellent start.

    But when Gorsuch sat in his slightly less radical left wing church… that’s not a window into his soul?

    Those churches need to pull their heads out of their asses anyway or we’re all screwed. They’ve been central to our culture since our founding.

    I’ve seen some encouraging signs of ad fontes type behavior – i.e. a retreat from socjus supremacism.

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  98. Anyone who trusted in Trump was a fool. OF COURSE he’d betray his backers — the only things he cares about is his own ego and Daddy”s Little Princess. What part of Deplorable do you Deplorables forget that you (and I) are to Daddy’s Little Princess? If you and I had any value at all, according to Daddy’s Little Princess, we’d have been born rich and been massive successes. This is female logic at its best.

    Ivanka and Jared are concentrating on building favors to Wall Street and Corporate America, to extract money later when Trump is either defeated by Hillary Part III the Revenge or more likely Kamala Harris (the annointed one). Thats all they care about and like all rich aristos they are hard-left, that is to say they HATE HATE HATE you Deplorables. [Me they'll have shot I assume.]

    Trump was better than Hillary, since he does not have Parkinson’s, is not a heavy drinker, and does not hate White men nor America. That’s about it. Trump NEVER MEANT ANY OF: Border Wall, Deportations, America First, Hire American, Build American, any of it.

    Our Destiny as White men is sealed. There is no hope and those peddling it are Hopium Dealers. We face at best being third class serfs with no rights as a discriminated minority, with our women enthusiastically and predictably siding with the invaders (see the Huffington Post “let’s deny White men the vote and take all their property” White Female writer). The only thing for us then is to be FEARED. The worst case is of course, concentration camps for every White male lacking money/power/connections. [Gertrude Stein and Alice B. Toklas sat out the War in Southern Vichy France unmolested by either Nazis or the Vichy government.] You and I won’t be so lucky.

    TRUMP LIED. It was all about being Mitt Romney Part Deux. That’s who he is. And there is no where to flee to either, as all of Europe is being overwhelmed by Africa and the ME.

    Had Trump wanted to make a move, he could have followed the failure of Ryan Care with an offer of FREE national health care paid for by cost savings of deporting all illegals AND DREAMERS. He did not even make that move because he fundamentally doesn’t care about us Deplorables. Unlike Hillary and Ivanka he doesn’t hate us but he doesn’t care either — none of us are rich, famous, and Alpha Males. Not being hated was the best we could do.

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  99. A dreamer has been admitted to the California State Bar. (http://kanbaroo.blogspot.com/2014/01/107th-installment-is-being-unlawful.html; see also second section of http://kanbaroo.blogspot.com/2014/02/108th-installment-three-strikes-against.html) Trump could send a message by deporting him. This dreamer has the history of previous deceptions and even one perpetrated by the California bar itself.

    But I suspect Ivanka would veto.

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  100. @Lot
    I've read the EO briefs and opinions.

    Why do we not just give up on everything? Hay ho, librul judges gonna be dictators anyway.

    When you engage in black or white thinking, it really exposes the weakness in your argument.

    Or in other words: maybe you strike when your powder is dry and not die on a hill to impress internet commenter “Lot”.

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    I used to share that optimism.

    It is Justice Kennedy who will decide all these liberal challanges to Trump's EOs. He would certainly uphold ending DACA.

    A step on the path there is to just do it, and appeal to the USSC if the lower courts rule against us. But Trump has to take the first step. Instead he continues to enforce a lawless decree passed by Obama.
  101. @Opinionator
    So for commenters to the smartest blog on the Internet:

    What should President Trump's immigration strategy be going forward?

    We will just have to see how it plays out now. I’m willing to give the man a chance versus squealing CUCKED so I can try to one up other commenters for victim Pokemon points here on iSteve. I’ve discussed some of the changes to DHS Imm Policy, and they don’t make a ripple among the people looking to bray on and on about muh doomed.

    Some of you guys are upset because he won’t mass deport all 20 million illegal aliens in one day into the ocean. You’re going to keep being upset. I’m glad to see he is deporting Somalis ffs.

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  102. @syonredux

    The country has changed and there really is no going back. Best case scenario was that Trump could slow it down for 4 or 5 years. That looks like wishful thinking now.
     
    Demography is destiny:

    Around the time the 2020 Census is conducted, more than half of the nation’s children are expected to be part of a minority race or ethnic group. This proportion is expected to continue to grow so that by 2060, just 36 percent of all children (people under age 18) will be single-race non-Hispanic white, compared with 52 percent today.
     
    https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2015/cb15-tps16.html

    Despair is destiny. Demography is temporary.

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  103. One of what , maybe two,
    if three times (?) , that CNBC had ever used “good” and “Trump” in the same sentence:

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/10/nepotism-in-trump-white-house-could-actually-be-a-good-thing-says-management-guru-jeff-sonnenfeld.html

    “…Sonnenfeld added that the United States has seen a completely “unjustified moral outrage” to Kushner stepping in.

    We have a long history of seeing this special assistance that are people with broad portfolios,” he said. “

    G-u-r-u.

    L-o-n-g H-i-s-t-o-r-y.

    S-p-e-c-i-a-l A-s-s-i-s-t-a-n-c-e.

    C-o-m-p-l-e-t-el-y.

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  104. @Opinionator
    My first reaction is in line with yours Steve. In other words, this is unbelievable--why does Kelly even need to say one way or the other right now?

    But his comments may reflect just how badly wounded this White House is at the moment and it's need to preemptively assuage sore spots.

    It is my understanding that there is another aspect of DACA that the White House has fallen down on. That is the ongoing issuance of DACA work permits to DACA illegals. Deportation can be seen as a separate question. Apparently, Trump promised to end this executive practice on Day 1. He has not done so. Instead, they are issuing thousands each day.

    Man, Richard Spencer has caused untold damage to this administration with all his self-aggrandizing antics. How much of his media whoring and claiming to speak for others are responsible for the DACA reticence, and for Bannon's being on the way out?

    Says an opinionator.

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  105. @Jack Hanson
    When you engage in black or white thinking, it really exposes the weakness in your argument.

    Or in other words: maybe you strike when your powder is dry and not die on a hill to impress internet commenter "Lot".

    I used to share that optimism.

    It is Justice Kennedy who will decide all these liberal challanges to Trump’s EOs. He would certainly uphold ending DACA.

    A step on the path there is to just do it, and appeal to the USSC if the lower courts rule against us. But Trump has to take the first step. Instead he continues to enforce a lawless decree passed by Obama.

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    Just like Roberts found Obamacare unconstitutional and didn't twist the law into a pretzel to keep it in tact. Just like Kennedy didn't invent a right to gay marriage.

    What color is the sky in your world?

    I see you shifted to talking past me now and ignoring what I previously said.

    The day Trump stops DACA is the day that some unelected mandarin in a dress decides that the 14 Amd is meant to apply to the world and Pandora will have opened the box.

    Better to wait.
  106. Springtime Sale for Hitler Incompetent Full-Term Father in Lawless and Half-Term Unreal Estatesman :

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/15/hungary-protests-soros-university-closure-threat

    Ignatieff, 70 next month, has lobbied western capitals, including Washington, winning support from the Trump administration in an implied rebuff to Orbán’s hope of improved ties.

    A US state department spokesman, Mark Toner, last week called on Hungary to suspend the law, which he said threatened an institution that “is an important conduit for intellectual and cultural exchanges “.

    Deep Family still runs everything.

    Pitchforkinacation is, unfortunately, the only solution.

    Sad.

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  107. @Lot
    I used to share that optimism.

    It is Justice Kennedy who will decide all these liberal challanges to Trump's EOs. He would certainly uphold ending DACA.

    A step on the path there is to just do it, and appeal to the USSC if the lower courts rule against us. But Trump has to take the first step. Instead he continues to enforce a lawless decree passed by Obama.

    Just like Roberts found Obamacare unconstitutional and didn’t twist the law into a pretzel to keep it in tact. Just like Kennedy didn’t invent a right to gay marriage.

    What color is the sky in your world?

    I see you shifted to talking past me now and ignoring what I previously said.

    The day Trump stops DACA is the day that some unelected mandarin in a dress decides that the 14 Amd is meant to apply to the world and Pandora will have opened the box.

    Better to wait.

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  108. @Opinionator
    My first reaction is in line with yours Steve. In other words, this is unbelievable--why does Kelly even need to say one way or the other right now?

    But his comments may reflect just how badly wounded this White House is at the moment and it's need to preemptively assuage sore spots.

    It is my understanding that there is another aspect of DACA that the White House has fallen down on. That is the ongoing issuance of DACA work permits to DACA illegals. Deportation can be seen as a separate question. Apparently, Trump promised to end this executive practice on Day 1. He has not done so. Instead, they are issuing thousands each day.

    Man, Richard Spencer has caused untold damage to this administration with all his self-aggrandizing antics. How much of his media whoring and claiming to speak for others are responsible for the DACA reticence, and for Bannon's being on the way out?

    I also heard there was a global warming going on. This Spencer guy really caused untold damage to mankind! Wow, just wow. I can’t even.

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  109. @Lot
    Some good news in Trumpland

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/04/14/immigration-hawks-ascend-senior-dhs-positions/

    Exactly. Cleanse the temples and replace with your own people.

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