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Just because practically nobody in 2016 voted for Jeb Bush doesn’t mean America should be denied the kind of policies a third Bush as President would have implemented.

Perhaps of relevance: From Politico last year:

Trump learning to love Bush aides

The president’s administration is increasingly tapping Bush-era officials as staffing woes persist.

By TARA PALMERI 04/17/2017 05:12 AM EDT Updated 04/17/2017 12:16 PM EDT

Throughout his presidential campaign, Donald Trump repeatedly declared that “the last thing we need is another Bush,” as he vowed to take on two political dynasties — the Bushes and the Clintons.

But as president, Trump has been increasingly dipping into the talent pool from the George W. Bush administration that he regularly vilified during the campaign to now fill critical administration posts.

Trump promised to drain the swamp and rely on Washington outsiders, but nearly 100 days into his term, the staffing and political realities have set in, and his team has been turning to some of the top old hands of the Bush administration.

 
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  1. Noticer says:

    And, for the most part, the policies of a third Bush president are what we’re getting from Trump.

    • Replies: @binkyxz3
  2. Jeff Sessions’ hands are all over the Op-Ed. He has reason to want to strike back at Trump, especially given that Trump is on the verge of firing Sessions.

    And once Sessions is gone, Trump will declare a full fledged amnesty to make peace with the Dems, and will be laughing his behind off at all the suckers who trusted his promises

  3. Jeff Sessions’ hands are all over the Op-Ed. He has reason to want to strike back at Trump, especially given that Trump is on the verge of firing Sessions.

    And once Sessions is gone, Trump will declare a full fledged amnesty to make peace with the Dems, and will be laughing at all the suckers who trusted his promises

  4. inertial says:

    The Anonymous should be easy to find. All you have to do is to identify a government official who sabotages Trump’s policies. Piece of cake.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  5. Pretty clear that the left thought this was a win-win which would cause Trump to distrust his staff. Regardless of if it’s real or not, which I give a 50/50 chance. I’m sure if I was as cynical as NYT operatives I would give it a much lower chance of being real.

    Trump should make it clear that he’s making a list and checking it twice of “senior staff” that aren’t living up to the job. He should leave it at that and concentrate on getting Kavanaugh nominated. On the other hand, who am I to tell Trump what to do, he took on the media and political establishments single handedly and won. I’m sure he can figure out how to handle a mole.

  6. I’m with the Instapundit on this in that if, or when, this dude’s identity is found out, he will not have been as “senior” as the NYT let on. After all, with the midterms right around the corner, the libs have a lot to gain by running with the “White House in Chaos” headlines. When the name is revealed, everyone who hated the NYT will still hate them, the left will applaud the effort, and the low information voters will only remember the “chaos” meme and not that the anonymous writer turned out to be a less important than the White House pastry chef.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @njguy73
    , @Tim
    , @PapayaSF
  7. BenKenobi says:

    Fugg alert:

    On Wednesday’s TDS Sven and Enoch speak highly of Mr. Unz’s latest American Pravda entry.

    And heeeeere come the pretzels!

  8. Anon[419] • Disclaimer says:

    NeverTrump never gives up, apparently. THEIR Republican party, not OURS, is the party of endless free trade agreements, Middle Eastern wars, immigration, and obscene tax cuts for the rich. For years the polls have said that, but only in 2016 was it finally realized. Their Republican party picked it’s hill and died in the last election, but like a zombie it rises again.

    My theory: neocons realized they have no place in the democrat party, no matter how hard they try. So, they are trying to take back the Republican party for themselves. See the National “Against Trump” Review’s latest issue attacking the idea of the FCC preventing huge tech corporations from censoring conservatives; Truecons actually have don’t have a problem with this censorship as their Republican party is really just a vehicle for enhancing their wealth while allowing them to remain in polite DC society. Under Trump, they ain’t getting invited to the cocktail parties like they used to and that’s just sad.

    These people are just awful, and there’s no other way to put it. Under Obama, what exactly did they “conserve”? Our borders? Hell no. Our principles? Nope – spying is great! Our jobs? Woo, hoo – sign that South Korean free trade deal Obama! Our values? What values? Our religious freedoms? Sue that bigoted baker! Our speech? Free speech is hate speech, don’t you get that rube? Limited government? Raise the deficit! Congressional work ethic? Please – pass that salary raise and see me a three day workweek. … they couldn’t even preserve school bathrooms for male and female. Losers.

    They only thing they were ever concerned with is conserving their own pocketbooks.

    My second theory: Kudlow did this. The article focused unusually on economic arguments at some points.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Anonym
  9. Yet another instance where Trump could’ve taken a criticism and turned it around. The writer actually says that things in America under Trump are pretty good-but says that that’s in spite of Trump.

    He could have made a long list and ended with a quote from the NYT op-ed

    But Trump’s thin skin prevented him from doing that.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @kihowi
  10. Well, when you put it that way, of course.

    Instead of 41, 43, and 45, we could hae called them Bush the Elder, Bush the Lesser, and Bush too.

    Or, Out of touch, Dumbya, Indifferent.

  11. Ibound1 says:

    This was predicted. The writer is undoubtedly mentioned in this article:

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/trump-bush-aides-officials-237243

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Mr. Anon
  12. Tell the Q Anon believers it’s Q and watch their heads explode.

  13. eah says:

    Election nullification.

  14. @Hare Krishna

    I guess I have “conspiracy theorist” tendencies, but…

    Didn’t Steve Bannon try to get Jeff Sessions to run for President before Sessions suggested Trump?
    Wasn’t Sessions the first Senator to endorse Trump?
    Wasn’t Trump the architect of a very successful “reality TV” show, a genre in which people notoriously have “fake feuds”?
    Wasn’t “You’re fired!” Trump’s very own tagline on that show?
    Hasn’t Trump participated in fake feuds with Vince McMahon?
    Isn’t it rather convenient that Sessions seems to be the only cabinet member who has not explicitly denied being the author of this op-ed?

    Unless I am mistaken, the answer to each of these questions is Yes.
    That doesn’t prove anything, of course, but I find it worth noticing.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    , @prusmc
  15. anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @inertial

    Good one.

  16. Mr. Anon says:
    @Hare Krishna

    Jeff Sessions’ hands are all over the Op-Ed. He has reason to want to strike back at Trump, especially given that Trump is on the verge of firing Sessions.

    Utter nonsense. Sessions is actually opposed to illegal immigration (legal immigration too, possibly). He wouldn’t undermine his means of advancing that cause. He wouldn’t do it anyway. He’s not a Bush-Republican and he’s not a rat.

  17. @Anon

    …obscene tax cuts for the rich.

    Every moment George Soros continues to live is an “obscene tax cut for the rich”. What have you done to change that?

  18. map says:

    This op-ed is a larp or a lie. Even if remotely true, it is largely irrelevant.

    The Democrats have already lost the midterms.

    Why? Because they lost a sizable percentage of the formerly white, Democrat vote.

    The evidence? Pressley and Ocasio-Cortez and other minority candidates winning…on platforms not the least bit different from the old Irish and Italian politicians they are replacing.

    Think about it.

    You’re a white Democrat and all you hear from each candidate, white and non-white, is some form of anti-White communism. What do you do? You check out of your primary. By checking out, the Italian and Irish guy loses because he doesn’t get the bloc vote.

    The Dems have completely misinterpreted this result. They think it’s some kind of sea-change in voting. In reality, they’ve lost a significant demographic that will either not show up in the midterms…or will vote Trumpist out of spite. They just don’t know it yet because this demographic is unlikely to admit that in polls or to change their party affiliation before the midterms.

  19. Anon[377] • Disclaimer says:

    Derek Lyons. This is your mole Sailer.

    “Lyons oversees, together with the White House Chief of Staff, the flow of information to the President.”

    Lyons would be in a position to know some of the things mentioned in the article. He would also be smart enough to pin it on Pence using specific words like Lodestar (see below).

    AND

    “In May 2014, he went back to Capitol Hill, becoming General Counsel in the office of Senator Rob Portman.”

    Portman was a US trade representative. Didn’t some of this article focus on economics? Lyons is an excellent candidate for the culprit – means, motive, and opportunity…and little loyalty as he’s only been in the job since Feb….and he only got the job due to the freak resignation of his predecessor.

    AND

    “His practice was mainly related to federal regulatory policy.”

    Trade was mentioned in this Op-Ed.

    AND

    Lodestar definition: “the star that guides; one who serves as an inspiration or guide/role model.” His job description again: “Lyons oversees, together with the White House Chief of Staff, the flow of information to the President.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Lyons

    THE KICKER

    “According to Lyons’ WH financial disclosure form, he was a policy adviser to Jeb Bush and the pro-Jeb Bush Right to Rise super PAC.”

    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/02/09/just-in-trump-replaces-rob-porter-with-former-jeb-bush-policy-adviser-maga/

    He also worked for Brett Kavanaugh, which immunizes him from suspicion during his nomination fight…the perfect time to publish a scathing Op-Ed.

    • Replies: @midtown
    , @Art Deco
  20. istevefan says:

    A few observations.

    First, the democrats and media, part of the same team, keep telling us the democrats are sure to win the House in November. Their polls show the democrats with a sizeable advantage. Yet they are acting anything but confident. The clown show also known as the Kavanaugh hearings is a case in point.

    Second, I am having trouble keeping up with the impeachable offenses. First it was Russian collusion. Then they entertained the thought of invoking the 25th amendment as all those TV analysts diagnosed Trump as being mentally ill. Then we we were onto the concentration camps on the border. They still keep trying to bring Russia back, but now we appear to be back on to the 25th amendment. Woodward’s book and now this anonymous op-ed are proof, I guess, that Trump is mentally ill and must be removed via the 25th amendment.

    Third, I am actually more impressed by Trump the man as the days go by. Though I am piqued by the lack of progress on the wall, I am amazed at how this guy continues to grind it out day after day despite the most intense opposition that any president has been put through.

    Ever since I was a kid I’ve been in awe of guys who could keep their heads in tough situations. Whether it was a battlefield commander, a QB like Montana or an astronaut like Armstrong, I always wished I could do the same. To see Trump continue to function with all the shit he has had thrown his way is impressive.

    Other guys would have withered or gone into a depressive episode where they wouldn’t make any public appearances for a while. But not Trump. He was out in Montana tonight hitting the campaign trail.

    I am coming to believe these campaign trips are a great motivator for him. He gets no support in DC from the media, his party and apparently his staff. But when he heads to the sticks to speak with the base, they treat him like a hero and it seems to give him a boost. The bad news for the democrats and media is the more they make him feel uncomfortable in DC, the more he will take it on the road to attend these rallies. And the more rallies he does, the better the odds the GOP will keep the House and extend their majority in the Senate.

  21. TGGP says: • Website

    I’m probably more sympathetic to many of the op-ed writer’s preferred policies, but you’re right. Despite denying that these are the actions of a “deep state”, that’s basically what it is: people who aren’t elected and don’t hold positions specified in the constitution overriding the policies of somebody who people actually voted for. It speaks horribly of Trump that he is incapable of appointing people he can rely on (both because he’s a lousy judge of character, and in cases like Sessions or his flip-flopping where anybody with an ounce of integrity wouldn’t want to follow his lead), but be honest and just say that you think an undemocratic deep state engaged in undermining the president is a good thing (the people who wrote the constitution were able to be much more honest in advocating counter-majoritarian measures).

    • Replies: @Corn
    , @William Badwhite
    , @bomag
  22. Anon[789] • Disclaimer says:

    “Every moment George Soros continues to live is an “obscene tax cut for the rich”. What have you done to change that?”

    Republicans voted for Trump. HE was supposed to change that. We’re still waiting…oh, wait. Trump passed a huge, obscene tax cut for the guy. Never mind.

  23. TGGP says: • Website
    @istevefan

    You think Trump is “keeping his head” and persevering in the face of obstruction? As far as I can tell he’s just continuing to act like a media gadfly rather than someone with actual responsibilities. Agnostic over at Dusk in Autumn (formerly a Trump booster) calls it “the cosplay presidency“.

    • Replies: @Marty
    , @Pericles
  24. Anonym says:
    @Anon

    My theory: whoever wrote this sought to include several red herrings based on pet interests and patterns of speech so as to sow discord and distrust.

    • Agree: densa
    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
  25. Marty says:
    @TGGP

    Agnostic … calls it …

    Did he manage to do it in less than 10,000 words?

  26. @Anonym

    Breitbart mentioned he use of the term ‘lodestar’ which is a Mike Pence word. Did I mention Pence grew up in my Back of the Yards neighborhood in Chitown?

  27. Please Clap

    No thanks.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  28. Pericles says:
    @TGGP

    Agnostic over at Dusk in Autumn (formerly a Trump booster) calls it “the cosplay presidency“.

    This Agnostic guy seems to be a Bernie Bro now though? Whatever his former views on Trump, he mostly seems to be drooling over ‘Bernie Babes’, like those faaabulous latinx women recently getting elected instead of stale pale males. That doesn’t strike me as someone who wants to build a wall, more like someone flopping between extremes.

    • Replies: @Corn
  29. OT

    BIG STYLE HATE-CRIME HOAX- SAYS Chief of the German Secret Service

    https://www.journalistenwatch.com/2018/09/07/angela-merkel-ein/

    Attack on Merkel-Government by Chief of the German Secret Service: News were “intentionally faked to take the public’s mind off of the Chemnitz killing by Syrian “asylum seekers”.

    In Chemnitz, there were not only no “hunts”: facts were “purposefully falsified” in order to “distract” from the murder of “asylum seekers” in Chemnitz. These statements by Germany’s head of the secret service, Hans-Georg Maaßen, equate to a revolt from above against the Federal Chancellor. Angela Merkel and her helpers in the media had turned the Chemnitz massacre of “refugees” as a threat to the law. A scandal of the first kind, in which the President of the Constitution does not want to play.

    Literally, Maaßen said: “There is no evidence that the video circulating on the internet about this alleged incident is authentic. After my cautious assessment, there are good reasons to believe that this is targeted misinformation in order to possibly distract the public from the murder in Chemnitz. “Moreover,” there is no reliable information that such hunts have taken place “.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
  30. El Dato says:
    @South Texas Guy

    the White House pastry chef

    The counterweight to Putin’s Chief Caterer.

    Rasputin, Rashomon, I don’t know anymon.

    • Replies: @Anonym
  31. Tyrion 2 says:
    @SporadicMyrmidon

    The Trump Sessions partnership has been a wonder to watch.

  32. anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @map

    Sounds like you don’t know very many white democrats

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @lavoisier
  33. JimB says:

    Anonymous is Stephen Ford, a jerkwater speech writer for Mike Pence. That’s NYT’s idea of a senior Trump official.

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/speculation-who-is-the-anonymous-white-house-official-behind-the-resistance-op-ed/

    Gee, that little mystery didn’t last very long.

    For more background on Steve’s other points.

    https://theintercept.com/2017/04/04/koch-trump-wh/

  34. I dunno … I don’t think the Bushies could write that well, not that that memo is saying much.

  35. @James Speaks

    Or maybe “Taxes Bush” (as in no new ones), “WMD Bush” (as in we’ll find them in Iraq) and “God-Emperor” Trump.

  36. @JimB

    An effin speechwriter? David Frum was a speechwriter for WMD Bush, for God’s sake. These people are natural born Judases.

  37. Dr. X says:
    @map

    You’re a white Democrat and all you hear from each candidate, white and non-white, is some form of anti-White communism. What do you do?

    If you’re Rob Tibbetts, you talk about how great Mexican food is and you vote Democrat.

    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Trevor H.
  38. Anonym says:
    @El Dato

    Rasputin, Rashomon, I don’t know anymon.

    Or me.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  39. very early in the trump administration there were a few NYT articles/op eds ‘we got this wrong’ and some brief self reflection – hey maybe us making rural america the butt of late night jokes is a bad thing…
    With the flynn thing, a few liberals said in so many words -hey i oppose this guy but this is not a way to run government –

    all that has gone out the window.. there is no self reflection about inciting violence or over-riding democracy.

  40. Anon[567] • Disclaimer says:

    “Anonymous is Stephen Ford, a jerkwater speech writer for Mike Pence. That’s NYT’s idea of a senior Trump official.”

    Perhaps, but Ford has only been with Pence since around 2017. Lyons is my pick. He has been around since the transition in 2016 and has been continually promoted since. The article specifically mentioned the attack on Syria by Trump and what he told Mattis; Lyons was already floating around the administration at a fairly senior level at that time. Lyons also fell into his current – very powerful – job upon the freak resignation of his predecessor, on domestic abuse allegations, I believe…strange coincidence. Didn’t Brennan try planting a mole in Trump’s administration?

    Lyons is a very “senior” official at this point + he has means, motive, and opportunity…and no personal loyalty to Donald Trump. He was also a prominent Jeb Bush supporter and fundraiser; combine that with his positions on trade (mentioned in the Op-Ed), and I think we have a winner. Lyons is in a position to control and coordinate the information flow to Donald Trump, so he is the perfect person to coordinate an internal deepstate “resistance” among multiple people. He’s your guy.

    The article did imply multiple people are involved in this “resistance”, so even if he didn’t personally write this, he is probably part of it. Chunk him with the rest.

    Also, the “lodestar” word is something used in one of Pence’s recent speeches – for McCain’s funeral I think, so it was something floating about at the time and not necessarily specific to Stephen Ford. Lyons likely used it to throw off the dogs but also due to its meaning in relation to his own job (a guide, a – self-righteous – role model); he just couldn’t resist teasing the audience with his sense of intellectual superiority, being an arrogant Harvard jerk and all. Further, Lyons suggested Kavanaugh to the SC, and even worked for him. The timing is just too perfect. With the confirmation hearings going on, and considering his relationship to Kavanaugh, he probably thought he was immunized from suspicion – the perfect moment to publish something like this.

    • Replies: @Russ
  41. TTSSYF says:
    @Hare Krishna

    That’s ridiculous. Sessions was behind Trump from the very beginning and is passionate about the immigration issue. He is also an honorable Southerner. We recognize the type easily down here.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
  42. midtown says:
    @Anon

    That’s a good possibility.

  43. AndrewR says:
    @Anonym

    Ra ra Rasputin, lover of the Russian queen. There was a cat that really was gone…

  44. This is interesting. It’s fun to speculate about what sort of wording and vocabulary the author could have used to make it seem the article came from a woman or, even better, a woman of colour? More use of the words “I”, “me” and “feel” and more about Trump dissing other people for their hairstyles?

  45. Anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    Ooh, the case for Derek Lyons just got a lot stronger courtesy of Mr. Alec Lemas on another thread:

    ===============

    “Lodestar” is a legal term of art in Federal litigation practice in fee shifting cases. My guess is that the author is law-trained.

    The rote recitation of principles of Chamber of Commerce style “conservatism” leads me to believe that the author has served in a past GOP administration (a Bushie), or had been a Congressional staffer for a GOP member of congress. The author was and remains “Never Trump” but is a careerist who insinuated himself or herself into the administration for the typical careerist reasons.”

    ===============

    Derek Lyons is a highfalutin Ivy league lawyer with deep connections to Jeb Bush and federal law. In fact, he was his former policy advisor and a fundraiser + I believe he worked previously for a republican trade representative.

    In summation:

    1. He controls the flow of information to Trump, making him the perfect person to coordinate a “resistance” of the kind described in the article.
    2. He’s a lawyer, which makes the use of the word “lodestar” meaningful as it is a legal term, specifically one used in federal cases – and Lyons has a connection there as I believe he may have clerked in the federal system (he worked for Kavanaugh).
    3. He is immunized from suspicion due to his Kavanaugh connection + this piece was published during the Kavanaugh hearing. Strange timing.
    4. He is a former Jeb Bush policy advisor and fundraiser.
    5. He has been around in the administration since the transition, meaning that he was there for the very telling comment in the article about Trump/Syria/Mattis early on in the Trump administration.
    6. He worked for a US trade representative and trade was a part of the article.
    7. He has no personal loyalty to Donald Trump and only got his most recent, very powerful, position due to the very suspicious outing of the previous incumbent as some kind of bad guy…hm.
    8. He worked for a law firm that specialized in federal regulation and/or trade law.

    I’m telling you. THIS is the guy you’re looking for.

  46. Trevor H. says:
    @Dr. X

    You know “they” are rubbing their hands with glee at the spectacle of a white guy who says “Well, you may have raped and murdered my daughter but the important thing is that I’m not racist!”

  47. njguy73 says:
    @South Texas Guy

    I’m with the Instapundit on this in that if, or when, this dude’s identity is found out, he will not have been as “senior” as the NYT let on.

    How do you know it’s a dude?

  48. Iberiano says:

    I dunno. It’s getting to the point of the Turing test, my first impression was it’s completely made up fakery, because it had a lot of the gammatells that I’ve heard from liberals/progs the last 40 years –the “Adults in the room” reference is classic, something liberals love to say/imply, rolling their eyes, speaking “above” any conservatives or normies in their presence when it comes to their politicians…that they need the children to run to the other room and be quiet. The “rant” stuff, civility, all that, too. (full of projection)

    But then, like AI becoming human, at this point, the Left is so full of fake drama and hyperbole, you really couldn’t tell if something was sincere or full on Onion. So it might be real.

    One thing’s for sure, the entire article was written so as to insert the meme “Even people on the inside are thinking about the 25th amendment…maybe you should too John Q. Public”…so now the media can go around 24/7, 300 times a minute saying “So where are we with the 25th amendment push to remove him from office?” They will start to get conservatives on record on their stupid TV shows, with the yes/no options “are you in agreement with members of his own cabinet that want to invoke the 25th Amendment or not?” I can just see Anderson Cooper adjusting his problem glasses now.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  49. njguy73 says:
    @James Speaks

    Did you hear about the three new government bonds?

    The George H.W. Bush bond, the George W. Bush bond, and the Trump bond.

    The first has no interest, the second has no maturity, and the third has no principle.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  50. Iberiano says:

    The Alt.right should be turning this op-ed into full on “Deep State Treason” and reverse the meme flow…everyone should be asking…everyone with a mic, podcast, Youtube channel etc “Do you support such treason against the President and 60 million Americans?

    Wonder how the dems are collating their “lists” against Americans…are they already gathering voting registrations and putting them in another database, for later “reference”? Lists are coming, that’s for certain (ala Latin America).

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  51. @istevefan

    To see Trump continue to function with all the shit he has had thrown his way is impressive

    Agree. Trump’s indefatigability is incredible. I think it is object evidence that his health and genes are excellent.

    I also think it shows his background in NY/NJ and international real estate were excellent training for some aspects of the Presidency. You don’t succeed for 4+ decades in those realms without being a tough, effective operator.

    I only wish that Trump was 55 instead of in his 70s. We need him for a second term, especially when you look at the crud being positioned as the Dem nominees.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    , @Carol
  52. @Dieter Kief

    It was obvious from the get-go that it was largely a hoax. What’s unexpected is that the chief of the political police himself contradicted his political bosses.

  53. @anony-mouse

    It wasn’t Trump that OpEd was insulting, it was the American electorate.

    It’s his job to defend us. That’s not thin skin, it’s manliness.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
  54. “as president, Trump has been increasingly dipping into the talent pool from the George W. Bush administration that he regularly vilified during the campaign”

    Okay, serious question. I don’t know, because I’m not one, but is it really that hard to find “policy people”? The ones I’ve met mostly strike me as under-bright, over-credentialed, stuffed-shirt box-checking automatons. There is nothing irreplaceable–or even interesting–about them.

    Surely Trump–and America–would be better off if he just replaced the upper echelon of the civil service with his top thousand Twitter followers rather than relying on failed Bush admin retreads. There was even that GreatAgain.gov official site, yet how many were hired from there? Sure some were cranks, but all Bush retreads are evolutionary dead-ends. Yes, someone somewhere in the bureaucracy will still stonewall, sandbag, obfuscate and derail. So what? That’s always true.

    Is there really some labyrinthine federal protocol that only lifelong swamp denizens can navigate? Most bureaucrats do nothing productive. What is the harm of firing or sidelining them? Worst case scenario, we are no worse off. All other cases are better.

    Whatever else you thought about the neocon subversion of the Bush administration, one clear lesson is that a handful of committed, moderately capable people really can reorient the federal behemoth in short order at low cost. Instead of NeoCons, this administration needs RioCons. Stephen Miller is doing great work, but he can’t do it alone.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    , @kihowi
    , @HFR
  55. Like Reagan, Trump doesn’t have enough friends.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @AB
  56. Thirdtwin says:

    It’s Erick Erickson. His “Safeway” buddy was the test run.

  57. @Almost Missouri

    I agree. Probably, even if the majority of those followers would be incompetents, he could just keep firing them (and promoting the more competent ones) and hiring newer ones, until finally they would stabilize.

    The commenter David Pinsen proposed to just advertise the jobs on the internet with some essays to be written on policies and credentials, and then interviewing them.

    Let’s not pretend that a presidential administration is always filled with super-bright people, because it’s usually not.

    • Replies: @Chief Seattle
    , @Anon
  58. I think the most important thing about this article is that the Left now spreads what would normally have been called “conspiracy theories,” except they are openly celebrating some of the conspiracies they posit (the Deep State, though of course they don’t call it as such, instead they are talking about “high level unelected officials obstructing the elected president, preventing him from implementing his policies and only waiting for an opportune moment to eventually kick him out of office”). Some other conspiracy theories (Russiagate etc.) are just standard stuff, the mirror image of 911 truther etc. theories.

  59. kihowi says:
    @Almost Missouri

    It’s a reason to believe that democracy simply Does Not Work. The only way for government to be a reflection of the will of voters is for there to be a mechanism in place in which outsiders can start ordering civil servants around, even senior ones; orders which are then executed.

    If not, let’s call the whole thing off.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  60. Corn says:
    @TGGP

    “Despite denying that these are the actions of a “deep state”, that’s basically what it is: people who aren’t elected and don’t hold positions specified in the constitution overriding the policies of somebody who people actually voted for.”

    Democrats and NeverTrumpers, 2017: “Deep state? A ‘deep state’? Get out of here you tinfoil hat wearing loon.”

    Democrats and NeverTrumpers, 2018: “Deep state? Of course there is! How else we gonna handle this guy?!”

  61. Corn says:
    @Pericles

    I used to read Agnostic’s blog. He didn’t just talk about politics, he’d talk about music, movies, possible causes of homosexuality and pop culture or generational trends.

    The last few months though he’s been beating the drum convinced the Bernie Bros are going to lead the Democrats into a restrictionist position on immigration. I sure as hell don’t see it happening.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  62. Mr. Anon says:
    @Ibound1

    This was predicted. The writer is undoubtedly mentioned in this article:

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/trump-bush-aides-officials-237243

    Just this past week, the White House sent out a news release, announcing the nomination of four confirmation-level hires, with half being former Bush administration staffers.

    Marshall Billingslea, a Bush State Department and Pentagon alumni, was nominated to be assistant secretary for terrorist financing in the Department of the Treasury;………..

    Assistant secretary for terrorist financing in the Department of the Treasury? I thought the CIA was in charge of financing terrorists.

  63. Mr. Anon says:

    But as president, Trump has been increasingly dipping into the talent pool from the George W. Bush administration…..

    ‘Dipping’ into the ” talent pool from the George W. Bush administration”? You’d barely get your feet wet.

  64. Mr. Anon says:
    @JimB

    Anonymous is Stephen Ford, a jerkwater speech writer for Mike Pence. That’s NYT’s idea of a senior Trump official.

    Stephen Ford: the dirty little chump who betrayed Mr. Trump.

    (assuming it is him, of course)

    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
  65. The implication being that a Bushie–or possibly a collaboration (we don’t know if the NYT piece was individually written) –are attempting to strike at the emperor.

    A plausible argument, though one cannot rule out the possibility that it was authored by the NYT people themselves in order to plant a seed in the minds of the public. In any event, “If you strike the emperor, you must kill him.” What if they don’t succeed?

  66. @Desiderius

    It’s one of the great paradoxes of our time: how can Trump form a coalition in a town united against him? How can anyone form a capable team of reformers when all the institutions are staffed by defiantly incompetent people?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  67. Tim says:
    @South Texas Guy

    Totally agree with South Texas Guy.

    The writer of this op-ed will not be “senior” — may have just been a NYT’s editor. The only thing anyone will remember is the “chaos.”

  68. @reiner Tor

    Offering policy jobs to internet applicants would be a true revolution. Emphasis could be given to real world accomplishments, whether that’s building a business, gathering a (real) youtube following, raising a decent family. Ivy league credentials would go out the window, although they probably would still be well represented due to tough applicant selection. DC would become a raucous ball of energy, with people of all walks of life bumping into each other, and the actual mechanism of government for the first time. It would be like Paris in the 20s or NYC in the 50s, with lots of people living for the day because they weren’t in it for the government pension and figured they’d be kicked back to wherever they came from eventually.

    Firing would be common place. The penalty for corruption would be immediate dismissal and a lifetime audit by the IRS. The power of the empire would be truly unleashed. Life would be glorious.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  69. I have no idea who wrote the thing, if indeed there even was one principal author, but it seems likely that John McCain collaborated on it and instructed it to be released upon the event of his death. That also helps to explain the otherwise incongruent McCain eulogy appended at the conclusion of the op-ed.

    The tone of the writing was juvenile, whiny, and tinny, which is very much McCain’s MO. It was also somewhat condescendingly patronizing.

    If this is true, it would lend credence to the idea that the op-ed is part of an orchestrated effort to suborn Trump which included McCain’s funerary proceedings as well as the recent push for renewed conflict in Syria.

  70. HFR says:
    @Almost Missouri

    William F. Buckley said that he would rather be governed by the first 200 people in the Boston telephone directory than by the Harvard faculty. We could try that, except that there is no longer a telephone directory and Boston would not be my first choice.
    There should be a moratorium on Harvard and Yale graduates running for president.

  71. AB says:
    @Desiderius

    Someone who wants to drain the swamp will never have enough friends in the swamp.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  72. Just because practically nobody in 2016 voted for Jeb Bush doesn’t mean America should be denied the kind of policies a third Bush as President would have implemented.

    Jebby Bush didn’t stand a chance in the 2016 GOP presidential primary, and I knew it right from the get-go.

    I saw Jebby Bush at a presidential primary town hall campaign event in April of 2015 and this emaciated dope Jebby Bush was going on about his new paleo diet that allowed him to shed 30 or 40 pounds of Bushy Boy fat. He combined the weariness of a fat guy just aching to slam down a cheeseburger with that awful Bushy Boy arrogance that drives people away.

    Trump should not have hired one damn bastard from that evil Bush Organized Crime Syndicate, Dammit!

    But he did, and he has no one to blame but himself for the phucking snakes and rats in his administration!

    At the Jebby Bush campaign event, I could sense the crowd had tired of all the Bushy Boy crap and they weren’t going to support Jebby Bush whether he was fat or thin.

    I hereby claim that Jebby Bush’s paleo diet was a contributing factor in his listless, uninspiring and enervating campaign.

    The New Hampshire GOP ruling class couldn’t help Jebby Bush one bit, but they tried like hell to carry Jebby’s carbohydrate-deprived ass across the NH presidential primary goal line.

    Tweets from 2015:

  73. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Right. White democrats are the most doctrinaire blind followers of liberal doctrine. It’s like they have some sort of chip in their brain that orders their thinking directly from propaganda central.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  74. AB says:

    The NYTimes has just announced to the whole world that Trump has been right all along, that there is indeed a Deep State, and that this un-elected cabal is not only actively working to thwart all of Trump’s efforts, running the country according to its own agenda, i.e. to ensure we have forever wars, but is actively seeking to overthrow a legitimately elected President of the United States.

    By publishing this anonymous op-ed, the Times has also just implicated itself for being complicit in this act of High Treason. The People vs. the New York Times is now a legitimate case. The Sulzberger family and the entire editorial staff should be charged with RICO, stripped of their US citizenship and booted out of the country.

    Even the WSJ’s Editorial Board today pointed out that impeachment is the NYTimes’ agenda.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  75. Byron York was noticing the Energy Gap in the GOP presidential primary in 2015:

  76. Whiskey says: • Website

    Alternatively Dems figure that enough illegals kids have grown up and now vote.

    And thus Trump and White men are toast. Sadly they are probably right. Demographic s make White males irrelevant in voting and in society. We are a despised minority that is not feared.

    Better to be feared than loved.

  77. AB says:

    So far the only 2 high ranking senior officials who have not come out to deny writing this hit piece are Nikki Haley and John Kelly.

    Both have the motive, esp. Haley. The lap dog of Netanyahu is practically calling all her own shots at the UN, threatening to bomb everybody and his mother like a mad Israeli dog. She’s also psychic and already knows Assad is going to use chemical weapons even before he uses it. Although the NYT referred to the writer as a “he”, he could just be Jon Lerner, the Never Trumper senior advisor to Haley whom Pence actually also tried to hire until Trump complained. Haley and Pence are both die hard neocon stooges of the Deep State and the op-ed is clearly penned by a neocon.

  78. TG says:
    @Hare Krishna

    I respectfully disagree with Hare Krishna – there is no way that Jess Sessions is “anonymous.” He’s just too cool for that. He had been one of my state senators for like forever, and nothing gets under his skin. The man is total Zen – yeah, he’s boring, but then Zen is boring.

    And yeah, it all might be made up, in order to sow (further) discord in the Trump administration, and further tarnish his public image. A brilliant, if utterly amoral, political strategy on the part of the establishment.

    That said, right now Jeff Sessions is pretty much the only member of the Trump administration that is trying to fulfill Trump’s campaign promises, specifically, on attempting to finally enforce the laws against illegal immigration. While on pretty much all other promises Trump has been rolled by ‘the swamp,’ Sessions is the only reason to keep supporting Trump. If Sessions goes, there is no objective reason for Trump voters to support Trump other than the guilty pleasure of watching him insult various public figures – a thin gruel at best.

  79. I have no doubt that there is a fifth column at work within the White House. But the anonymous op-ed could be just another part of the ongoing destabilization psy-op being waged against Trump and his deplorables by the establishment. The New York Times has really degenerated into racialist agitprop while still serving as a mouthpiece for endless profitable wars in Muslim lands.

  80. kihowi says:
    @anony-mouse

    Saying “thin skin” when someone fights back is the gayest of all gay gambits.

    • Agree: vinteuil
  81. @map

    “The Democrats have already lost the midterms.”

    Not sure about that, but there is some truth in what you say about white Democrats. There is grumbling within the ranks that may develop into a full-fledged movement if the Dems continue their descent into the cultural-Marxist madness. At this point, the descent seems irreversible.

  82. prusmc says: • Website
    @SporadicMyrmidon

    Much speculation that it is VP Pense; he has the most to gain. I don’t see Mattice or General Kelly as back stabbers. Now, H R McMasters is another matter; however, he has been gone for sometime.
    Sessions may have been a Trojan horse from the onset. Surely, Jeff knew it would be impossible to ever do anything about illegal aliens in the modern US. So he makes a big deal of stepping up the tempo on the long failed “war on drugs.
    He has nothing to gain and since he is already a dismal loser, he might strike out like a dying scorpion.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
  83. @Hare Krishna

    Thanks! This comment was so great! I’m glad you posted it twice.

  84. It’s truly amazing that Jeff Sessions turned out to be a gigantic flop, who turned over the management of the DOJ to Rod Rosenstein (a Twilight Zone character if there ever was one). Steve Miller was Sessions’ primary speechwriter when ole Jeff was in the Senate. Now Miller works for Trump and Sessions works for Rosenstein. A truly bizarre outcome of events in a Twilight Zone world and Trump tweets on in spite of it all. No border wall, just more tweets.

    • Replies: @Redman
  85. @Cagey Beast

    Pretty much what he’s doing.

  86. @AB

    The friends I was talking about are lifelong or close. Like Reagan, that’s not Trump’s thing. Nor are they really coalition builders either, just wave noticers.

  87. Pericles says:
    @Corn

    The last few months though he’s been beating the drum convinced the Bernie Bros are going to lead the Democrats into a restrictionist position on immigration. I sure as hell don’t see it happening.

    All that’s needed is an underpants gnome making a triple bankshot, I suppose.

  88. @kihowi

    That’s called The Spoils System. One of the earliest Progressive reforms was doing away with it in the name of civil service professionalism.

  89. @Anon

    It’s a macho thing for the younger ones. It’s like a peacock’s tail. Telling them Ds are anti-white is like telling a peacock his tail is heavy.

    They’d be likely to reply “yeah, isn’t it great?”

  90. PapayaSF says:
    @South Texas Guy

    But Trump likes to be underestimated, he likes Sun Tzu-style strategic deception, and he likes to troll the media and Democrats (but I repeat myself). Constant cries of “Chaos in the White House!!1!” make them look unhinged and gives Trump cover to get real work done.

    • Replies: @Anon
  91. @Hare Krishna

    Hare Hare Krishna Krishna,,

    You’re You’re repeating repeating yourself yourself..

  92. Because we have a winner take all election system and not proportional representation we are basically destined to have a two party system unlike various European countries. The problem there is that as we become more diverse, it is becoming harder to lump everyone into just two parties. If the US has proportional representation we would have 20 parties; one for every ethnicity, religion, and more than two for sexual identity.

    Trump has been refreshing to the right because many people are finally getting representation. The Republicans have excelled at being a business lobby – money laundering operation masquerading as a political party. They look like a party but on issues that really matter such as immigration their loyalty is to their funders.

    The same thing is happening on the left. Had Bernie Sanders won, he would have tried to staff his cabinet and government with Bern Bros. but would have gotten stuck with some of the same Chamber of Commerce types that Trump has. This is not going to be a permanent feature in our country. As we become more diverse, hence have less in common, there will be more inter party squabbles between not only business interests and popular issues but different identity groups fighting for the same slice of the pie.

    • Replies: @Redman
  93. @TGGP

    It speaks horribly of Trump that he is incapable of appointing people he can rely on (both because he’s a lousy judge of character, and in cases like Sessions or his flip-flopping where anybody with an ounce of integrity wouldn’t want to follow his lead

    He won the nomination by effectively running against the Republican party, which left him without many allies that also understand and know how to navigate Washington. The last GOP prez that ran at least somewhat against his own party was Reagan, but his brand of conservatism had a whole slew of policy types onboard and had been building momentum at least since Goldwater. In fact it would be more accurate to say that Reagan didn’t run against the GOP, but rather won the nomination of a somewhat divided party (and then partly mollified the losing side by choosing one of theirs as VP).

    Trump’s brand of America and Americans Firstism had no institutional momentum within either party.

    I don’t know who Trump is supposed to appoint that would both support his policies but also be effective (beyond Sessions). He’s working almost alone.

    • Replies: @Redman
  94. I finally read the editorial. What a crock of horse-puckey. It’s so obviously fake it’s laughable. Every item is straight out of the Democratic/liberal critique-of-Trump handbook. This is a joke, right? No one’s taking this seriously, right? You gotta be kidding me.

    Paraphrased: “Trump is a child, a petulant child. Who throws temper tantrums and acts impulsively. He’s not even conservative. Trump loves deviants. Especially one’s who have installed themselves as dictators over the oppressed in their benighted regimes.

    But luckily, there are adults in the room who are keeping the ship of state steadily on course, eyes on the lodestar.”

    Pure unadulterated, self-flattering bullshit.

    The NYTimes has sunk to a new low. They are beneath contempt.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
  95. lavoisier says: • Website
    @anonymous

    Agreed. White democrats take irrationality to a level rarely reached by a conscious human being.

  96. Covfefe says:

    This is just the second posthumous letter from McCain.

  97. JimB says:
    @JimB

    The MSM is pulling out the Watergate playbook. They are trying to gin up a Deep Throat, but the low level clown they have scraped up in the administration doesn’t actually have the goods on Trump, and a lot of what he says sounds contrived. The real Deep Throat, as you may recall, was a disgruntled FBI employee passed over for promotion.

  98. JimB says:
    @JimB

    The MSM is pulling out the Watergate playbook. They are trying to gin up a Deep Throat, but the low level clown they have scraped up in the administration doesn’t actually have the goods on Trump, and a lot of what he says sounds contrived. The real Deep Throat, as you may recall, was a disgruntled FBI employee passed over for promotion.

  99. Anon[330] • Disclaimer says:
    @reiner Tor

    Trump needs to start hiring outside the beltway. If he plucked people up from the Midwest, he’d get hard workers with integrity who believe in his agenda. Washington is made up of people who believe in an entirely different culture.

  100. Anon[330] • Disclaimer says:
    @PapayaSF

    It has been remarked that Trump was trolling other people all the way back to his days in military school. It’s a technique he uses to make others flustered and behave stupidly. It’s part of putting others in their place in the pecking order–namely, right at the bottom. The people who lose their cool and don’t respond maturely end up being treated with contempt by everyone else, and they end up being ignored.

    If anyone believed the NYT was objective two years ago, they don’t now. The behavior of the press has degenerated from to the point where it’s utterly childish, lying, and silly, and that’s what Trump wants. He making the American public realize the press is run by a bunch of people who are at the bottom of the social pecking order, a bunch of immature, silly children.

    He want the press to disgrace themselves and blow themselves up.

  101. Yes but it’s safe to say it’s not going smoothly. In fact, the odds seem to be about 50-50 as to whether or not he’s going to be in office by the time the next election rolls around.

  102. anon[205] • Disclaimer says:

    Speculation:

    Et Tu Donnie.

    I’ll do with a speechwriter, but perhaps he will claim that it is a composite. That would both discredit it and fuel more deranged chit chat.

  103. @prusmc

    He’s doing alot more than anybody else to fight illegal immigration.

  104. @njguy73

    The George H.W. Bush bond, the George W. Bush bond, and the Trump bond.

    The first has no interest, the second has no maturity, and the third has no principle.

    But at least the third bond has some link to those who have to pay it off.

  105. @istevefan

    Excellent comment.

    I was just thinking the exact same thing. People do not start acting out irrationally when they are winning. The Democrats are getting more and more irrational. And looking at the polls today (538.com has a ton of them), it’s clear that the media spin on polling is totally false. Go by individual poll rather than generic ballot. The Republicans are at least tied in the most vulnerable House races. Already, assuming those go 50/50 the repubs will keep the house.

    The Republicans will likely increase their Senate majority. Governors are looking pretty solid too. This is not a cocky statement, disaster could well strike. But it’s nothing at all like a shoo-in right now.

    I find Trump incredibly inspirational, to be honest. I’ve started facing my daily struggles like him. Just slug through and keep on truckin’. Chin up. Life is hard and lonely but you’ve gotta get through it. Think big. I’m not drinking as much as before. I love Trump and respect him. Yes I’d like a wall and more immigration restriction, but he’s trying. Every. Day.

    God bless you and God bless Donald Trump.

    • Replies: @Flip
    , @PapayaSF
    , @Desiderius
  106. @The Wild Geese Howard

    Trump had talked about running for president for a long time, but seeing what he has been going through since he was elected, I can understand why he kept putting it off. He knew how savage the reaction would be if he took on the entrenched elites.

    BTW, anyone who still believes Obama was a “change agent” is impervious to evidence. This is what happens when an actual change agent gets elected.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  107. @TTSSYF

    And so was Roy moore; look how that went.

    I support sessions, I just think he’s a one trick immigration pony. In over his head as AG and should be moved to DHS

  108. Cato says:
    @Hare Krishna

    Cool comment bro! Say it again!

  109. Trump needs to clean house after the coming election and focus almost exclusively on immigration.

    End birthright citizenship.

    Kill DACA once and for all.

    Pay for the wall by taxing remittances out of U.S.

    Prosecute santuary city mayors.

    Replace Pence with Gov. Kobach in 2020.

  110. ChrisZ says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Interesting comment, Dasein. Seems plausible to me that this is part of the “morality play” whose first act was that outrageous funeral.

    It was last summer, wasn’t it, that Shakespeare in the Park hired some poor Trump lookalike to play Julius Caesar? We’re getting jumbled recollections of that play in the past weeks: a funeral engineered to inflame passions; the shadow of self-righteous conspirators supposedly acting out of a “lofty” concern for the state; a booklength rumor that we should “Fear” Trump’s ambitions. What might the next act bring?

    Were this the middle of March, I’d advise Trump to avoid the Forum.

  111. Anon[285] • Disclaimer says:

    Primary Colors controversy was more fun than this Deep Throat State.

  112. This is what happens when an actual change agent gets elected.

    Excellent point.

    Both the breadth and depth of the opposition and Trump’s steadfastness in its face are high quality indicators that the man, flawed as he is, is genuine, and really does believe in the United States as a cohesive nation of European and Christian heritage.

  113. Flip says:
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    It seems to me like more white people are starting to feel like the Democrats are against them.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
  114. Corvinus says:

    Here’s what we should NOTICE about the Op-Ed piece, rather than Mr. Sailer’s flippant remarks –> According to reasonable, intelligent people who work in the White House, Trump is not well, to put it mildly. Not “Deep State operatives” or “Bush syncophants”, but patriotic Americans who observe Trump’s demeanor, mood swings, and behaviors everyday.

  115. Corvinus says:
    @Intelligent Dasein

    “The tone of the writing was juvenile, whiny, and tinny, which is very much McCain’s MO. It was also somewhat condescendingly patronizing.”

    No, it was not McCain’s handiwork. It was someone close to the day to day operations. And the tone was in reality measured, concise, and chilling.

    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
  116. MEH 0910 says:

  117. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Flip

    Does that matter if a likely plurality of voters are non White? All those illegal aliens have US born kids who turn into voters.

    It could be insane levels of anti White hatred are there to motivate the kids of illegals now 18+ to vote. Enough do and it’s permanent Dem majority with official open borders and free stuff for everyone save Whitey

    • Replies: @Jay Fink
  118. Corvinus says:
    @Iberiano

    “The Alt.right should be turning this op-ed into full on “Deep State Treason” and reverse the meme flow…everyone should be asking…everyone with a mic, podcast, Youtube channel etc “Do you support such treason against the President and 60 million Americans?””

    While I enjoy taking one day at a time, I am eager to find out two to four years from now when the smoke clears and IF Trump and his team are the ones who were treasonous, how you and others who made similar remarks will spin it.

    • Replies: @Russ
    , @Je Suis Omar Mateen
  119. Please Clap: The “Anonymous” Op-Ed Summarized

    Now, really. It’s beneath us to wish Neisseria gonorrhœæ on our opponents, regardless of how much they may deserve it.

  120. Redman says:
    @Detective Club

    In the words of the immortal John McCain. “Let’s build the danged wall.”

  121. Redman says:
    @Prof. Woland

    At this point I’d take the parliamentary system here in a heartbeat. The coalition of the fringes would each have their own party. No way they could be kept together under a single flag like the “labor” party in the UK.

    It would dilute the current Dem power base, which is based on smoke and mirrors (and assumed continued unlimited third-world immigration).

  122. Redman says:
    @William Badwhite

    Agreed. Trump ran against both major parties, which is why I always have contended that he was the victor in the “third party” movement which started with Perot.

    Perot-Buchanan-Paul, and the Trump wins.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  123. @Redman

    Ah, Perot… I wish he had won.

  124. @Harry Baldwin

    BTW, anyone who still believes Obama was a “change agent” is impervious to evidence. This is what happens when an actual change agent gets elected.

    Ain’t that the truth!

  125. Carol says:
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    A younger guy would never be so outspoken. Trump is old enough to not give a rip. Also, he’s part of the least PC boomer cohort.

  126. @Chrisnonymous

    Ah, Perot… I wish he had won.

    H. Ross Perot was the greatest President this country never had.

    Perot wrecks NAFTA in under 2 minutes:

    What an incredible redpill atomic bomb while Bush and Clinton sit there like the senile idiots they are.

    Perot’s main problem in this clip is his stature because we live in a very heightist society that looks down on manlets like Ross and me.

  127. Blog full of galaxy brain commentators gaslighted yet again by a bunch of J school grads into thinking this is 1000% legit.

    Some rando ran the text through “Usedit.com”, a website for professors to make sure essays aren’t reused, and found a 100% match for a paper used by a UC undergrad.

    There still needs to be more checking, but goodness y’all arguing about this fan fiction like its Moses with the tablets is amazing to watch.

  128. @ThreeCranes

    Wouldn’t they eventually get sued and lose a lot of credibility if it were an outright fake?

    I mean, maybe they went LOOKING for someone willing to write the op-ed but I think it really was someone from within the administration.

    A neocon/Bushie obviously- there are plenty of them and they think very highly of themselves. Half the letter was about foreign policy and not respecting our allies enough.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
  129. @Jack Hanson

    Some rando ran the text through “Usedit.com”, a website for professors to make sure essays aren’t reused, and found a 100% match for a paper used by a UC undergrad.

    So, are you saying that some UC undergrad wrote a paper in the persona of a Trump administration insider, eulogized John McCain at the conclusion of the paper (which presumably must have been written within the last two weeks), and then this utterly insignificant creative writing exercise somehow made its way to the New York Times where it was picked up as an editorial?

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
  130. Russ says:
    @istevefan

    Other guys would have withered or gone into a depressive episode where they wouldn’t make any public appearances for a while. But not Trump.

    As Mr. Sailer has made note, Trump’s mentor-of-sorts was George Steinbrenner of the Yankees. Constant chaos off the field; constant winning on it (in 1976-78, at least). I often believe that Trump has a phobic-level fear of the boring and the mundane. He feeds off this chaos; it makes him stronger and fully flummoxes both the left and Conservatism Inc.

  131. binkyxz3 says:
    @Noticer

    Is that why the Bushs have criticized practically everything Trump has done ?!?

  132. densa says:
    @Jack Hanson

    But… the NYT would never lie to us, would they?

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
  133. Russ says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    Ah, Perot… I wish he had won.

    I wish he hadn’t exited and then re-entered the ’92 race.

  134. Alfa158 says:
    @S. Anonyia

    Public figures effectively can’t sue a newspaper, and it is impossible for the NYT to lose credible with people it hasn’t already lost. They have billionaires ready to subsidize them as needed, so they’ve got nothing to worry about.

  135. MEH 0910 says:
    @Jack Hanson

    Some rando ran the text through “Usedit.com”, a website for professors to make sure essays aren’t reused, and found a 100% match for a paper used by a UC undergrad.

    It’s been a week since Tiny Duck last commented. The master plagiarizer has been a busy boy.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    , @Jack Hanson
  136. Russ says:
    @Anon

    Perhaps, but Ford has only been with Pence since around 2017. Lyons is my pick.

    Well-asserted.

    I believe it was software from Yale which unmasked Joe Klein as the author of “Primary Colors” in the Clinton administration. That sort of software has surely advanced since then, and would be well-applied to the output of every Trump administration speechwriter now on the payroll. Sweat ‘em a little.

    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
  137. @Mr. Anon

    And laid the admin in its grave?

  138. Russ says:
    @Corvinus

    I am eager to find out two to four years from now when the smoke clears and IF Trump and his team are the ones who were treasonous, how you and others who made similar remarks will spin it.

    This latest pivot back to the 25th amendment implies a loss of faith in Muh Russia’s ability to oust Trump. But should Sessions and McCabe and Strzok actually find one year that Trump verily *did* hire those hookers to pee on that bed in Moscow, we can always plausibly assert that we died of ennui in the interim.

  139. MEH 0910 says:
    @MEH 0910

    And right around the same time Tiny Duck drops out, iSteve picks up a new commenter, Mike Krauthammer, who writes about the White Women and Men of Color in South California.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  140. @Russ

    I thought of that too but it seems to me that you could take a similar computer and reverse engineer it to write in the pattern of a particular author. The whole point of this is to cause turmoil and infighting in the Trump administration while Andrew McCabe and Peter Stryok get publicly frog marched and the rest that is yet to come. My guess is that this was written by someone in the deep state or it is a composite. Perhaps Bill Ayers wrote it.

  141. Anon[236] • Disclaimer says:

    “Wonder how the dems are collating their “lists” against Americans…are they already gathering voting registrations and putting them in another database, for later “reference”?”

    Yep. Collecting dirt, too:

    “Peeping Webcam? With NSA Help, British Spy Agency Intercepted Millions of Yahoo Chat Images”

    https://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/28/peeping_webcam_with_nsa_help_british

    Anyone who ever took their clothes off in front of the Yahoo Chat service (and probably Skype, too) has their pictures permanently stored by GCHQ for analysis by the NSA; another story I read claims about 11% of all users – thousands or millions of people – did so at some point. And with visual recognition software now better at classifying images than humans, they’ll be able to match your image via social media profile or state driver’s license in a matter of microseconds. They’ve also permanently copied all social media profiles on Facebook to a database, so they’ll have you and your associate’s pictures to go off of even if you delete the profile now.

    There is absolutely no reason for them to have done that if they weren’t building a database of dirt on people to leak at a later date; this isn’t the kind of thing that would really catch a terrorist – and they seem piss poor at that, anyway. In the future, people who say negative things about the ruling democrats might find dirty pictures of themselves suddenly floating around the internet.

    This is why I support separate countries now before it becomes too late. It’s telling that a lot of this occurred under Obama, especially during his second term. You know, back when they thought they could no longer lose elections as a result of their immigration policies.

  142. MEH 0910 says:
    @MEH 0910

    Hmm. A commenter Michael Krauthammer starts commenting in June and then last comments on August 30, the same day Mike Krauthammer starts commenting.
    That’s ducked up.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  143. Art Deco says:
    @Anon

    Interesting candidate. Possible alternative: Kevin Hassett, Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers.

    I’d put my wagers, though, on ‘fictional person cooked up by the Times editorial page staff’. The complaints about Trump were quite stereotyped.

  144. Jay Fink says:
    @Whiskey

    Especially white males without children. They only pay into the system and never get anything from it, even when they are in need.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  145. Anon[144] • Disclaimer says:

    My top three suspects:

    #1 Derek Lyons – (see above) + he’s not a career politician but a lawyer, meaning that he wouldn’t be ruined if his identity were leaked; he’d find a job with a republican senator or think tank somewhere, so he’s somewhat enabled to publish something like this. Further, he served as legal counsel to a republican senator who was once US trade representative; remember that story months ago where a US senator savaged Donald Trump? …

    #2 Niki Haley – neocon, free-trader, NeverTrump, publicly spoke out against Trump during the election, greatly admired John McCain and spoke well of him, attacked Trump back when he attacked her at the U.N.

    Furthermore, the UN being in NY also places her in prime position to make contacts with the Times in order to float this article; and since she is not in DC all the time with the rest of the administration, she may have felt immunized by not being in close contact with others who might know her writing style and speech patterns. She also works with another NeverTrumper at the UN, I believe.

    However, the thing that speaks negatively about her as a suspect is the part of the article relaying the Mattis/Trump conversation about attacking Syria. Haley is a bloodthirsty neocon who very much would have supported that course of action. The writer of the Op-Ed seems to have felt this was extremely unwise, however. Haley also has higher political aspirations, so she might not want to risk her career on publishing this. Together, this indicates to me that the writer is a Bush era economics guy and not so much a neocon foreign policy type – someone is a position of access but with little to lose. The person who fits that profile is Derek Lyons.

    3# Stephen Ford, Pence’s speech writer (see above) + guys like that are usually moralistic and self-righteous. Additionally, Ford not being a career politician and having no aspirations for office somewhat immunizes him if his name came out. He’d find another job if his identity were revealed, so it’s no loss to him.

    Mattis and Kelley are patriots who feel like they are carrying the weight of the world on their shoulders. They wouldn’t risk endangering their country by risking their jobs with this crap, especially if they really thought Trump was an immature man baby (he sort of is).

    In any case, Trump would be better off if he just fired the top two suspects and threatened Pence with lack of access for the third after the election. He should just purge the lot of them and look outside of DC for staff. Start by calling up a list of people (Pat Buchanan, Anne Coulter, Lou Dobbs, etc.) and get names from them. Hire from Fox News if necessary.

    • Replies: @PapayaSF
    , @Achilles
  146. @Intelligent Dasein

    This is what I’m seeing, yes. Obviously needs more confirmation but yuge if true.

  147. @MEH 0910

    If this was a Godfrey Elfwick troll he deserves a Pulitzer.

  148. @densa

    There’s some serious battered wives syndrome among the commentariat here.

  149. PapayaSF says:
    @Anon

    I think you are quite correct. It’s also straight out of Sun Tzu. “If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.”

    I have tried to tell this to some friends on Facebook, but can convince nobody. Trump Derangement Syndrome is strong. And of course, nobody who’s been conned wants to admit they’ve been conned. To them, it’s obvious that Trump is a moron, and he couldn’t possibly be putting on a show for his own purposes. They forget he hosted a hit reality TV show for 14 years, and that he’s in the WWE Hall of Fame. He manipulated the tabloids for decades. He knows drama, showmanship, timing, fake fighting. All of that works with the trolling in a politically-unique way. Every now and then someone on the left grasps a bit of this: “Hey, he just says outrageous things to get media coverage, so stop giving it to him!” but they can’t stop. Trump’s got the laser pointer and they can’t help but follow it. To the left politics is a religion, and Trump’s not acting how he is supposed to, so they are frustrated, bewildered, offended, threatened, and in a perpetual state of outrage.

  150. PapayaSF says:
    @Anon

    A WH purge could be just what the Times wants. I think it’s also entirely possible that the leak is a partly or entirely a work of fiction by the Times or their source, or that the source was intentionally fed b.s. stories as part of Trump’s deception campaign.

  151. @Jay Fink

    Especially white males without children. They only pay into the system and never get anything from it, even when they are in need.

    White “males” without children have not contributed the most important element to the system. That will cost everyone in the long run.

    • Replies: @Jay Fink
  152. Achilles says:
    @Anon

    Toss Fiona Hill in the group. She’s trending hot.

  153. @MEH 0910

    And right around the same time Tiny Duck drops out, iSteve picks up a new commenter, Mike Krauthammer, who writes about the White Women and Men of Color in South California.

    Hmm. A commenter Michael Krauthammer starts commenting in June and then last comments on August 30, the same day Mike Krauthammer starts commenting.
    That’s ducked up.

    And that other Krauthammer has just passed from the scene.

    Is this evidence of a Cabbage Mallet Conspiracy?

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  154. PapayaSF says:
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    I am also convinced that Trump and Sessions have some bombshells prepared for the next two months. If they don’t happen, I’m admit I am totally wrong about Trump playing 6D chess… but I don’t think I am….

  155. @Anon

    I suspect that one of the reasons people fail to notice stuff like this is that much of the more intellectual support of Trump has come from people with at least some affinity for what might be called “dissident Right realism”, which tends to affirm that things like race, gender, ethnicity, nation, etc., are on some level real and maybe even good. By contrast, performance and theatricality have a rather airy-fairy taint. But Trump actually seems to be a master of performance and theatricality.

  156. Jay Fink says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    In many cases they would have had children but they were unable to attract a partner. If the welfare state didn’t exist many would have become husbands and fathers.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  157. Anon[175] • Disclaimer says:

    “A WH purge could be just what the Times wants.”

    Why would they want that? All the purged people agree with them. This was an act meant to hurt Donald Trump as it coincides with the Woodward book; the writer was probably also a source for the book. So, purge away. How would the country be worse off if Trump fired Halley on a whim? On the whole, we benefit. Everyone would.

    • Replies: @PapayaSF
  158. bomag says:
    @TGGP

    incapable of appointing people he can rely on (both because he’s a lousy judge of character, and in cases like Sessions or his flip-flopping where anybody with an ounce of integrity wouldn’t want to follow his lead)

    Too harsh; Trump survived in business largely by picking good people. It is harder to get “good” people in government, which is institutionally geared to reward lefties. Look at all the SCOTUS appointees that drifted Left.

    I’ve watched plenty of nominally conservative people get elected or appointed to gov’t slots and veer off into the land of big spending, big give-away, and regulating their past out of existence.

  159. It did not take long for the new Sara Jeong influenced editorial board to start taking action.

  160. @Corvinus

    “And the tone was in reality measured, concise, and chilling.”

    Chilling…. LOL. The tone was in reality smug, pedantic, and vague.

    I couldn’t help but NOTICE the complete lack of specifics. Pray tell, what particular deplorable literally-Hitler policies did high-level staffers frustrate and waylay by ignoring the mad frothing jeremiads of Orange Jesus? Nada. Just boilerplate ctrl-Left talking points and some throwaway praise for Juan McAmnesty to lend the letter some credibility.

    It’s as legit as the Steele Dossier; i.e., pure fan fiction.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  161. @Corvinus

    Hey, Corvi, congratulations [sic?] on breaking the million-word mark here at the Unz comments section. That’s equal to the word counts of War and Peace and Atlas Shrugged combined. That’s some mighty impressive logorrhea.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  162. Corvinus says:
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    “It’s as legit as the Steele Dossier; i.e., pure fan fiction.”

    You haven’t been paying close attention. I’m not surprised.

  163. @Iberiano

    One thing’s for sure, the entire article was written so as to insert the meme “Even people on the inside are thinking about the 25th amendment…maybe you should too John Q. Public”…so now the media can go around 24/7, 300 times a minute saying “So where are we with the 25th amendment push to remove him from office?”

    But they’ve done this several items already based on alleged insider reports.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  164. @ben tillman

    The “15th Amendment” meme was disseminated almost immediately upon his taking office.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  165. Anonymous[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jay Fink

    If the welfare state didn’t exist many would have become husbands and fathers

    How is that?

  166. PapayaSF says:
    @Anon

    For the same reason that Hitler’s spies tricked Stalin into thinking the Soviet military was filled with spies for Germany: to cause chaos.

  167. @ben tillman

    The “15th Amendment” meme was disseminated almost immediately upon his taking office.

    Typo — should be “25th Amendment”.

  168. noor says:

    I love wine country and since I live in Washington I’ve visited winey country here and in Oregon, plenty of times. The last time I was in Napa I was very young and would love to return as I really loved the landscape. Domaine Carneros is quite grand and I’d love to see the winery -Grgich Hills Estate- that put California wines on the map. I also like train rides and that would be such a fun way to taste wines and see the scenery pass by slowly.

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