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The American Dream Roulette

What happens if the green card lottery ends? Experts say low-skilled immigration could be affected.

And that would be bad because …

By Sintia Radu, Staff Writer | Nov. 10, 2017, at 1:45 p.m.

… “What is the right amount and the right type of immigration for the Unites States?” asks Stephen Yale-Loehr, an immigration law professor at Cornell University.

The program grants 50,000 green cards annually and started in 1990 as a way of increasing representation of citizens of countries that do not send many people to America.

“It is important to have diversity generally in our immigration system and the diversity lottery itself is one way to increase diversity,” Yale-Loehr says.

Did I mention “diversity” enough? Diversity diversity diversity. There, that should do it.

… At the same time, it is difficult to assess the impact of the visa lottery on low-skill immigration as data on the topic is scarce.

“Nobody knows if it’s helping low-skill immigration. We don’t have good statistical outcomes about any kind of immigration. We just don’t track immigrants after they arrive in the U.S. to find out how they are doing five or ten years later,” Yale-Loehr says.

Because tracking immigrants to see how they are doing would be … science. We don’t like science here in the United States of Diversity. We believe in Diversity, not in asking questions and noticing patterns.

 
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  1. …Stephen Yale-Loehr, an immigration law professor at Cornell University.

    The ivy is spreading.

    Say, did you know that Cornell College in Iowa is several years older than Cornell University? Or that Cornell U is the only Ivy League school not founded by a church?

    Cornell College began as Iowa Conference Seminary. (Maybe they should be in the Ivy League instead.) There are more faculty at each of the University’s two New York campuses than there are students at the Iowa college.

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    As my teacher liked to say, "Every Ivy League needs a Cow College."

    That's Cornell U. He used to call it Ezra A&M.

    It is in fact an original 1862 Morrill Act Land Grant university.

    It was paid for by the clearcutting of Wisconsin forests, as old Bucky Badger types never wearied of observing. UW being yet another 1862 Morrill institution.

    Here's the 70-odd Cornell U. faculty who signed a letter of protest against Drexel's suspension of pencil-necked race-baiter George Ciccarello.

    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScRd3QwNKnUnReyUo-FP5laYuctLJN-iHvjSkmPP_4GQJOCAw/viewform

    http://cornellsun.com/2017/11/10/70-cornell-professors-protest-drexels-suspension-of-its-professor/

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  2. Forbes says:

    started in 1990 as a way of increasing representation of citizens of countries that do not send many people to America.

    So, it was started as a foreign adoption program? Why?

    Was there a shortage of low-skill immigration? Natives were bidding up the price of labor, so something had to be done. Adopt poor, low skill workers from foreign countries.

    Boggles the mind.

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    I think it started with those Sally Struthers infomercials back in the late 80s. You may remember them. There was Mrs. Meathead, standing in those mud puddles in some developing world hellhole clutching little brown babies. The insomniacs in the State Dept. said why not bring not only the babies here but their parents, uncles, cousins and all of their friends. And so it came to be.
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  3. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    OT, This is related to the Judge Moore case in Alabama. Twitter rain man Thomas Wictor has gone on a tweet storm tonight about the Judge Moore case. It’s an interesting case he makes suggesting that the signature in the 1977 yearbook is a forgery among other items.

    Who knows this might be another Dan Rather national-guard-forged-memo meltdown occurring before our eyes.

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    • Replies: @guest
    You mean another Fake But Accurate story they'll turn into a sympathetic movie starring some American Sweetheart?
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  4. @Forbes

    started in 1990 as a way of increasing representation of citizens of countries that do not send many people to America.
     
    So, it was started as a foreign adoption program? Why?

    Was there a shortage of low-skill immigration? Natives were bidding up the price of labor, so something had to be done. Adopt poor, low skill workers from foreign countries.

    Boggles the mind.

    I think it started with those Sally Struthers infomercials back in the late 80s. You may remember them. There was Mrs. Meathead, standing in those mud puddles in some developing world hellhole clutching little brown babies. The insomniacs in the State Dept. said why not bring not only the babies here but their parents, uncles, cousins and all of their friends. And so it came to be.

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  5. eah says:

    There, that should do it.

    No, not quite.

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    A commenter asks:

    Was the doll subjected to FGM?
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Clitorectomy Barbie:

    But ma! It's the same as regular Barbie!!
    , @ThreeCranes
    "...inspire women and girls everywhere to break boundaries."

    Funny, breaking boundaries is alright for women and girls but when men err and step over the fuzzy line that separates appropriate sexual advances from an embarrassing flop.....

    Remember in "Guys and Dolls" when Big Jule uses his own dice to "change his Luck"? That's what we're seeing today when women get to define the borderline that separates what is acceptable from what isn't. With no spots on the dice, they can call the outcome of a roll anything they please.
    , @stillCARealist
    how is covering yourself in a shroud like all of your religion and society demands "breaking boundaries"?

    Be an Islamic woman with uncovered hair. That'll break boundaries whether you become an astronaut or not.
    , @El Dato
    The french have been there before.

    "Barbie Spice di Counasse" (which translates as "Barbie Stupid C*nt", said with a very banlieue accent)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz1gZ-7k2Kk

    "Small stones sold separately!"

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  6. eah says:
    @eah
    There, that should do it.

    No, not quite.

    https://twitter.com/Barbie/status/930118248116363264

    A commenter asks:

    Was the doll subjected to FGM?

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  7. STL says:

    Diversity as it is understood now is a bait-and-switch. Originally diversity meant that a company’s workforce should reflect the demographics of the community in which it operated. Now diversity has become to be understood as a goal to be achieved by changing the demographics of a community. It’s a world of difference.

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    It follows tradition. Changing the meaning of words to form more socially harmful practices and denouncing people who don't keep up with the new versions as bad people. Keeps pushing until all social capital has been expended and the nation dies.

    On the plus side, we get to reenact the fall of Rome. Always was a fan of the classics.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I had this impression during the Clinton administration, when Slick Willy kept saying he wanted to have "a cabinet that looks like America." But would that work when people like Clinton keep changing what America looks like?
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  8. @STL
    Diversity as it is understood now is a bait-and-switch. Originally diversity meant that a company's workforce should reflect the demographics of the community in which it operated. Now diversity has become to be understood as a goal to be achieved by changing the demographics of a community. It's a world of difference.

    It follows tradition. Changing the meaning of words to form more socially harmful practices and denouncing people who don’t keep up with the new versions as bad people. Keeps pushing until all social capital has been expended and the nation dies.

    On the plus side, we get to reenact the fall of Rome. Always was a fan of the classics.

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  9. guest says:

    Sintia Radu, eh? From now on, I’m only listening to articles on immigration from people named Whitey Corngood.

    (“Sintia” I assume is a form of “Cynthia,” which for some reason makes me angry. Why don’t people Anglicize their names anymore? I ask as a non-Anglo myself.*)

    *My name isn’t terribly un-American. If it were something like “Boogly Fliffinfuffer,” I’d like to think I’d change it to Bob Fluff.

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    • Replies: @Romanian
    No, she is apparently Romanian born and raised and not an immigrant. More likely a budding cloud person, who flits all over the nicer parts of the world. She is in the US on a Fulbright scholarship. Oh, and she graduated from my alma mater, same year too, but different school. And kind of cute. I hope she settles down with a nice Romanian boy (not me) in the home country, but a lot of these EE girls end up on the Brussels carousel.
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  10. guest says:
    @anonymous
    OT, This is related to the Judge Moore case in Alabama. Twitter rain man Thomas Wictor has gone on a tweet storm tonight about the Judge Moore case. It's an interesting case he makes suggesting that the signature in the 1977 yearbook is a forgery among other items.

    Who knows this might be another Dan Rather national-guard-forged-memo meltdown occurring before our eyes.

    You mean another Fake But Accurate story they’ll turn into a sympathetic movie starring some American Sweetheart?

    Read More
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  11. Wilkey says:

    Diversity is the bastard stepchild of variety. Variety says that, in the same way it takes multiple ingredients to make, say, a spaghetti dinner, it takes all kinds to build a community and a nation. So we let in Englishmen, Scotsmen, Frenchmen, Germans, Irish, Greeks, Italians, Jews, and so on. Tomato sauce, ground beef, pasta, garlic, bread, parmesan, etc. – it takes a *variety* of ingredients to make a good meal.

    Our modern take on immigration is like going into the kitchen and throwing in random ingredients in random proportions and assuming that something tasty will come out some way, somehow, in the end – take 4 gallons of tomato sauce, a cup of garlic, 6 spaghetti noodles, a can of sardines, oh and while you’re at at reach down under the sink and grab some drano and mix it in with the tomato sauce, because yum, DIVERSITY!!!

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  12. Diversity is our strangling.

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  13. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Diversity is wonderful because it is, Steve. It is a basic axiom of modern social science.

    In serious, I’m kind of surprised this is the hill the White-hating left wants to die on. The diversity lottery isn’t the main source of even legal immigration, and one might think they would be willing to sacrifice it to save the other parts of the demographic replacement machine, but I suppose I’m thinking like a White Male here.

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  14. @eah
    There, that should do it.

    No, not quite.

    https://twitter.com/Barbie/status/930118248116363264

    Clitorectomy Barbie:

    But ma! It’s the same as regular Barbie!!

    Read More
    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
    What's next? Ken issued in a cut or uncut version?
    , @eah
    https://twitter.com/AnthonyCumiaxyz/status/930354871949299712
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  15. @eah
    There, that should do it.

    No, not quite.

    https://twitter.com/Barbie/status/930118248116363264

    “…inspire women and girls everywhere to break boundaries.”

    Funny, breaking boundaries is alright for women and girls but when men err and step over the fuzzy line that separates appropriate sexual advances from an embarrassing flop…..

    Remember in “Guys and Dolls” when Big Jule uses his own dice to “change his Luck”? That’s what we’re seeing today when women get to define the borderline that separates what is acceptable from what isn’t. With no spots on the dice, they can call the outcome of a roll anything they please.

    Read More
    • Replies: @guest
    That is a brilliant analogy.
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  16. @Chrisnonymous
    Clitorectomy Barbie:

    But ma! It's the same as regular Barbie!!

    What’s next? Ken issued in a cut or uncut version?

    Read More
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  17. @eah
    There, that should do it.

    No, not quite.

    https://twitter.com/Barbie/status/930118248116363264

    how is covering yourself in a shroud like all of your religion and society demands “breaking boundaries”?

    Be an Islamic woman with uncovered hair. That’ll break boundaries whether you become an astronaut or not.

    Read More
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  18. @STL
    Diversity as it is understood now is a bait-and-switch. Originally diversity meant that a company's workforce should reflect the demographics of the community in which it operated. Now diversity has become to be understood as a goal to be achieved by changing the demographics of a community. It's a world of difference.

    I had this impression during the Clinton administration, when Slick Willy kept saying he wanted to have “a cabinet that looks like America.” But would that work when people like Clinton keep changing what America looks like?

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  19. Speaking of diversity, I’m in Barcelona right now. It’s strikingly white for a big city, by American standards. Still, Middle Easterners are filling the key employment sector known as “selling cheap crap from blankets on the sidewalk” and a large, baleful African walked up to me and asked if I “smoke weed.” When I lived on the Lower East Side in the early 1970s blacks were constantly offering to sell me drugs, but it’s been decades since that last happened. Sad that the first black with whom I exchanged words in Barcelona was fulfilling the worst stereotypes of his race.

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  20. Olorin says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    ...Stephen Yale-Loehr, an immigration law professor at Cornell University.
     
    The ivy is spreading.

    Say, did you know that Cornell College in Iowa is several years older than Cornell University? Or that Cornell U is the only Ivy League school not founded by a church?

    Cornell College began as Iowa Conference Seminary. (Maybe they should be in the Ivy League instead.) There are more faculty at each of the University's two New York campuses than there are students at the Iowa college.

    As my teacher liked to say, “Every Ivy League needs a Cow College.”

    That’s Cornell U. He used to call it Ezra A&M.

    It is in fact an original 1862 Morrill Act Land Grant university.

    It was paid for by the clearcutting of Wisconsin forests, as old Bucky Badger types never wearied of observing. UW being yet another 1862 Morrill institution.

    Here’s the 70-odd Cornell U. faculty who signed a letter of protest against Drexel’s suspension of pencil-necked race-baiter George Ciccarello.

    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScRd3QwNKnUnReyUo-FP5laYuctLJN-iHvjSkmPP_4GQJOCAw/viewform

    http://cornellsun.com/2017/11/10/70-cornell-professors-protest-drexels-suspension-of-its-professor/

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  21. “Diversity?” asked the black coach of the all black basketball team. “You want more diversity? We all brothers on this team. You don’t get more diverse than that!”

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  22. El Dato says:
    @eah
    There, that should do it.

    No, not quite.

    https://twitter.com/Barbie/status/930118248116363264

    The french have been there before.

    “Barbie Spice di Counasse” (which translates as “Barbie Stupid C*nt”, said with a very banlieue accent)

    “Small stones sold separately!”

    Read More
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  23. Romanian says: • Website
    @guest
    Sintia Radu, eh? From now on, I'm only listening to articles on immigration from people named Whitey Corngood.

    ("Sintia" I assume is a form of "Cynthia," which for some reason makes me angry. Why don't people Anglicize their names anymore? I ask as a non-Anglo myself.*)

    *My name isn't terribly un-American. If it were something like "Boogly Fliffinfuffer," I'd like to think I'd change it to Bob Fluff.

    No, she is apparently Romanian born and raised and not an immigrant. More likely a budding cloud person, who flits all over the nicer parts of the world. She is in the US on a Fulbright scholarship. Oh, and she graduated from my alma mater, same year too, but different school. And kind of cute. I hope she settles down with a nice Romanian boy (not me) in the home country, but a lot of these EE girls end up on the Brussels carousel.

    Read More
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  24. guest says:
    @ThreeCranes
    "...inspire women and girls everywhere to break boundaries."

    Funny, breaking boundaries is alright for women and girls but when men err and step over the fuzzy line that separates appropriate sexual advances from an embarrassing flop.....

    Remember in "Guys and Dolls" when Big Jule uses his own dice to "change his Luck"? That's what we're seeing today when women get to define the borderline that separates what is acceptable from what isn't. With no spots on the dice, they can call the outcome of a roll anything they please.

    That is a brilliant analogy.

    Read More
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  25. eah says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    Clitorectomy Barbie:

    But ma! It's the same as regular Barbie!!

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  26. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    “We don’t have good statistical outcomes about any kind of immigration.”
    –Stephen Yale-Loehr, immigration law professor at Cornell University.

    Also, this person is pretty much an idiot. Else he might perceive that he just said roughly the opposite of what he wants to say.

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    Actually, his intent is obsfucation. There is plenty of data on all sorts of immigration. Immigrants are more likely to use welfare of various sorts. The children of Hispanic immigrants have higher than average rates of social pathology, including crime, illegitimacy, and dropping out of high school. Immigrants use more public services than they pay for in taxes. But it supports his narrative to say “there is no data” than to try to explain away the data we have.
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  27. FPD72 says:
    @Anonymous

    "We don’t have good statistical outcomes about any kind of immigration."
    --Stephen Yale-Loehr, immigration law professor at Cornell University.
     
    Also, this person is pretty much an idiot. Else he might perceive that he just said roughly the opposite of what he wants to say.

    Actually, his intent is obsfucation. There is plenty of data on all sorts of immigration. Immigrants are more likely to use welfare of various sorts. The children of Hispanic immigrants have higher than average rates of social pathology, including crime, illegitimacy, and dropping out of high school. Immigrants use more public services than they pay for in taxes. But it supports his narrative to say “there is no data” than to try to explain away the data we have.

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