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From The Telegraph:

1,000 children may have been victims in Britain’s biggest ever child abuse scandal

By Callum Adams
11 MARCH 2018 • 4:23PM

Up to 1,000 children could have been abused in Britain’s biggest ever child abuse scandal, an investigation has revealed.

Hundreds of children, some as young as 11, are estimated to have been drugged, beaten and raped over a 40-year period in the town of Telford.

Lucy Allan, the Conservative MP for Telford, has called for an inquiry into child sexual exploitation, saying the latest reports were “extremely serious and shocking”. She has previously called for a “Rotherham-style inquiry” into the allegations.

“There must now be an independent inquiry into child sexual exploitation in Telford so that our community can have absolute confidence in the authorities,” she told the Sunday Mirror.

The investigation claims that allegations dating back to the 1980s were mishandled by authorities in Telford, who repeatedly failed to punish a network of abusers.

Victims claimed that similar abuse, which has been linked to three murders and two other deaths, has continued in the area.

The newspaper’s probe alleges that social workers were aware of the abuse in the 1990s, but that it took police a decade to launch Operation Chalice, an inquiry into child prostitution in the Telford area in which seven men were jailed.

It is also claimed that abused and trafficked children were considered “prostitutes” by council staff, that authorities did not keep details of abusers from Asian communities for fear of being accused of “racism” and that police failed to investigate one recent case five times until an MP intervened.

There’s no evidence that Rotherham was all that unusual other than the local authorities commissioned an official report. A year before the Rotherham report was released in 2014, I did some research on how widespread was Pakistani pimps grooming underage English girls to write a Taki’s column about it. But when Rotherham hit the news the next year, my initial thought was: “Rotherham” must be a typo for Rotterdam in the Netherlands. I.e., I had never heard of Rotherham before.

Of course, I’ve never heard of Telford before either …

The safe bet is that this is pretty much of a nationwide disgrace due to Diversity Worship.

 
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  1. Trump needs to comment on this. Otherwise the US media will ignore it. I was a little disappointed Tucker didn’t cover it this evening.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The US media will ignore it anyway. Even if you had some way to hold their feet to the fire, they'd just do what the vast majority of the UK media are doing--pretend that white Anglo males are behind it.
    , @wren
    He also ought to congratulate the hard working and probably non-corrupt FBI field agents who made that huge drug bust in San Diego.

    That amount of drugs had the potential to kill millions. Of course, it probably wouldn't kill millions, just destroy their lives.

    https://www.twitter.com/FBISanDiego/status/971878549513699329

    , @AnotherDad

    Trump needs to comment on this. Otherwise the US media will ignore it. I was a little disappointed Tucker didn’t cover it this evening.
     
    Trump's "the nationalist we've got", so he has my support. (Imagine the hideousness of another president who has the enthusiastic support of someone like Robert Kagan.)

    But man is he frustrating. He's President and as such has a lot of power to drive issues into public consciousness and clarify--the insanity of--what's going on. Unfornately this requires clarity of thought and clarity of purpose that Trump simply does not have.

    ~~

    These muzzies groom, abuse, rape and pimp out adolescent white girls are absolutely spot in elucidating the core issues around diversity:
    -- tribalism
    -- deep differences ethnic "diversity"--differences in cultural isn't just "restaurants!"
    -- impossibility of "multicultralism" in any sort of integrated society--a society must have one set of mores, one standard, one law
    -- the primitivism--by white Western standards--of many "diverse" peoples
    -- the inevitable conflict generated by diversity
    -- the sheer evil of the "racism!" charge.

    Basically these cases take the progressives' "diversity is our strength" lie out into the bright sunshine and shows it to be the ridiculous, disgusting, destructive lie that it is.

    And it does this in a form--abuse of girls--that is very hard for "progressives" to dismiss without looking like the complete duplicitous scumbags that they are.
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  2. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Well, at least those could be seen as crimes against whites.

    But what happens when whites welcome invasion and humiliation?

    In the pic below, that is a British cop, that is a Anglo(now Junglo)-Saxon woman, and the onlookers love the New Britain.

    If any one pic captured the future of UK. At least whites still know that what Muslim gangs did wrong. But they see nothing wrong with Afro-conquest-of-white-women. White women go that way, and the cuck-faced dorks cheer on. They don’t defend Britain but join Antifa to beat up whites who don’t want Junglization. Enoch Powell was wrong. Rivers of Blood is not the future of UK. It’s the Rivers of Semen. UK survived Dunkirk but they won’t survive Dong-Kong.

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    • Replies: @Daniel H
    Just sad.
    , @Joe Correa
    C'mon man this is a terrible fake, just look at the vest.

    Stop making a fool of yourself.
    , @AnotherDad
    Bad times for the West when this sort of street performance is greeted in such a manner. I'm pretty sure 50 back this performance would not have been greeted the same way and in fact would have been quickly "stopped" by English men.

    Check out the black guy--actually pushed to the front of the crowd with his kid to see this and bounce up and down.

    If white men think they can be all multicultural and still have civilization ... they are deeply mistaken.

    ~~

    Again--separation. We must make clear we have a fundamental right as whites\Westerners\civilized people, to live in our civilization. Whites who want to live in their multiculti globotopia (i.e. slum) are welcome to do so. But whites who wish to live in Western civilization have the right and must have the opportunity to do so. We are not the globalists slaves.
    , @Anonymous
    Believe it or not an 'Indecent Displays Act' dating from Victorian times is still on the British statute book. Richard Branson's Virgin Group as prosecuted under it for putting the Sex Pistols' album 'Never Mind The Bollocks' in a record store window.

    How can a 'serving police officer' - presumably cognizant of the law, act like that?

    The days of 'Dixon of Dock Green' are long gone.
    , @Anonymous
    ....and this is the nation that slung poor old Benny Hill (genuinely hilarious) off the TV for being 'lewd' and 'sexist'.
    , @Anonymous
    One choice bit of English slang is 'love truncheon' - truncheon being the official term for the nightsticks that British police habitually carry in lieu of pistols - as yet another humorous simile for the 'membrum virile'.
    , @Anonymous
    I bet she loved her bit of 'Truncheon Meat Sandwich' for dinner.
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  3. An important question is how many of the clients were white cops, politicians, barristers, judges etc. Probably more than a few when those numbers come up and it’s been hidden for years.

    You can’t just hide something this widespread without some collaboration on the part of the native officials. And that collaboration goes beyond simply avoiding “racism.” In fact, this whole cultural sensitivity thing sounds like an excuse to me. Frankly, I’m really tired of seeing white scumbags get off the hook both here in the US and abroad.

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    • Troll: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Oh right--the really important question is how to find a way to pin at least some of this on white males. Yep, with your customary laser-like focus you've found the real issue here. Just one question: Why waste your talents on iSteve when the MSM is hiring?

    Oh yeah, they're not hiring any more, are they.

    , @Reg Cæsar

    Frankly, I’m really tired of seeing white scumbags get off the hook both here in the US and abroad.
     
    Cf. Thomas Hamilton of Dunblane. (At least he missed Andy Murray that day.)

    On a brighter note, Mrs Scumbag was not elected here in 2016.
    , @Tiny Duck
    Agreed

    Men of Color come from maternal societies that respect women and must learn misogyny from white men

    Plus those white firms wanted the D
    , @Cato
    'collaboration goes beyond simply avoiding “racism.”'

    I have to agree. Reflect on the people you've known who have risen high in organizations, and especially in government bureaucracies. In my experience, they are often twisted and selfish people. Such people would not turn a blind eye for a "noble" reason such as avoiding racism, but would readily turn a blind eye for some kind of payoff. I wouldn't be surprised if all this talk about "avoiding racism" is simply cover for straightforward corruption.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    "And that collaboration goes beyond simply avoiding “racism.”"

    No, it's not wanting to have your career trashed (and your colleagues cold shoulder you) via accusations of racism. This starts at the top, mind - after Rotherham and Rochdale you would have expected police and social services nationwide to have checked for similar patterns of abuse - but that would be 'racial profiling'.

    Alas pretty much everywhere 'the community' is found, it's happening. It's happening in places like Banbury, where fine ladies are pretty rare these days. This case was dropped due to 'insufficient evidence'.

    https://www.banburyguardian.co.uk/news/crime/banbury-men-among-18-acquitted-over-child-sexual-exploitation-probe-1-8354182


    And while our MPs are often wholly owned subsidiaries, most of them won't be going for the sort of girls who are targets.
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  4. When the first priest abuse story in Boston came out, people said, “Oh that Father Geoghan was awful but thank God it was an isolated incident and he was the only one.” But then Boston Globe Spotlight reporters consulted an expert who said that based on historic data, x% (I think it might have been 4%) of priests were child abusers. The Globe people found out how many priests there were in Boston and multiplied and they came up with a number (in the hundreds) and after they were done investigating that number turned out to be almost exactly right.

    I suspect the same thing is true in England – Rotherham will turn out not to be unusual but entirely typical so that every single English community with a Pakistani population (which means almost every single English community) will have similar offenders at a similar rate as in Rotherham.

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    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
    I think we can all agree that homosexuals are a threat to young boys and should never be allowed to be in any unsupervised position of authority with children whether as priests, coaches, teachers, scout leaders, rabbis or parents.
    , @Almost Missouri
    If someone really wants to have sex with minors, the smart way to do it is by becoming a schoolteacher. Unlike with priests, the media will assume that you are fellow Democrat/leftist, so they'll only give the matter passing coverage and be surprisingly sympathetic to the perp.

    The pay is better too, and if you're public school, you may continue to be paid even if you no longer teach.

    If you're an attractive female, your picture will probably be in the paper though.
    , @Anonymous
    The neat thing is -- and this is a feature, not a bug -- a large number of fatherless, mixed-race babies will be born. Each and every one of them filled with rage against white people. O brave new world..
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  5. “There must now be an independent inquiry into child sexual exploitation in Telford so that our community can have absolute confidence in the authorities,” she told the Sunday Mirror.

    Oh, I’m sure that’ll help now.

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    • Agree: bomag
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  6. Time to bring back the gallows.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    Time to bring back the gallows.
     
    Where's Jack Ketch when you need him....
    , @AnotherDad

    Time to bring back the gallows.
     
    Time to bring back England.

    The critical function of modern "Western" governments is to keep white men from behaving normally to protect their families, communities, culture, race and nation.
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  7. Nietzsche spake of a “values reverse”:
    We’d esteem the obscene and perverse.
    In England, it’s here:
    There is nothing too queer.
    King Richard should cry for a hearse.

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    • Replies: @rogue-one
    This is a good one.
    , @Eagle Eye

    Nietzsche spake of a “values reverse”:
    We’d esteem the obscene and perverse.
    In England, it’s here:
    There is nothing too queer.
    King Richard should cry for a hearse.

     

    Extra points for "spake."
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  8. The English are not very perturbed by all this Pakistani rape, pimping out and drugging of English girls and teens. Some say it is a class matter where these young females are looked upon as trash, so the police, the social workers, the hack politicians, none cared or care. A very disgusting situation to have your young native females assaulted and ruined by foreigners you let in. Who immigrate purely for economic reasons…and now rape too.

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    • Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
    They're awful even to their own kids, why expect them to treat others' any better?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5491807/Father-recruited-perform-FGM-daughter-10.html
    , @Fredrik
    What do you think upset the people of Telford the most? This story or the Polish plumber down the street?

    It's the latter. By far.
    , @Moses

    Some say it is a class matter where these young females are looked upon as trash
     
    Elite Whites hate hate hate working class Whites.
    , @George
    "Who immigrate purely for economic reasons"

    It appears the UK absolutely had to build a dam in Pakistan. An obstacle to dam construction was the local people, Mirpuris, needed to be relocated. It is not clear why a location in Pakistan was unavailable, but to keep the project going the Mirpuris were relocated to the UK. I am guessing the UK had some vacant housing and moving the Mirpuris to the UK was cheaper than building housing in Pakistan. Filling vacant housing in the UK with rent payers was probably part of the attraction of the plan. Mirpuris are the specific group linked to these sex scandals. I cannot find info on the ratio of Mirpuris to other groups in the UK.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangla_Dam

    Forum posts about Mirpuris

    "In Pakistan itself, the Mirpuris are known as 'janglee' type people. Very backward and crime-ridden. The situation is no different here in the UK. Pakistani Punjabis want nothing to do with them and are ashamed of their antics."

    Other posts mention cousin marriage. Janglee probably means Jungle.

    Mirpuris make up 90% of pakistani immigrants in the Uk if you ask most pakistanis they will say they are from mirpur. They are all related from north to south hence they have drug contacts and also prositutue under aged girls through their network (dont know if you herd about that). Look up tommy robinson edl on youtube and he highlights issues.

    http://sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/76020-pakistani-punjabis-or-mirpuris/
    , @NickG

    The English are not very perturbed by all this Pakistani rape, pimping out and drugging of English girls and teens.
     
    Many postmodernist types, including my own brother, are in this category, but trust me, many of us English are more than a little miffed.
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  9. I already have absolute confidence in the authorities.
    I’m absolutely confident that they’re self-interested turds who care for nothing more than acquiring and retaining power over others.

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  10. @Malcolm X-Lax
    Trump needs to comment on this. Otherwise the US media will ignore it. I was a little disappointed Tucker didn't cover it this evening.

    The US media will ignore it anyway. Even if you had some way to hold their feet to the fire, they’d just do what the vast majority of the UK media are doing–pretend that white Anglo males are behind it.

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  11. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/02/24/irish-mass-migration/

    The Irish government has been slammed for paying journalists to write good news stories about Project Ireland 2040.

    Unveiled by the government last week with a commitment to spend €116 billion, the document outlines plans to boost the Irish nation’s 4.7 million population by another million using mass migration.

    The government’s strategic communications unit paid for sponsored “news pieces” to appear in national and regional newspapers promoting Ireland 2040, which “could not include negative or critical content”, The Times reported on Friday.

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    Will the Irish nationalists oppose this, or are they merely opposed to British Protestants in Ireland?

    There are tens of millions of people around the world descended from the Irish. Why not recruit them?
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  12. anon • Disclaimer says:

    The safe bet is that this is pretty much of a nationwide disgrace due to Diversity Worship.

    From Wikipedia:

    Telford’s population is predominantly White, comprising 93.8% of the population. The next largest ethnic group is those of Asian descent, comprising 3.3% of the population, which is again less than the West Midlands at 8.0%, and England at 5.3%.

    So, the thing is, it isn’t even really very diverse at all. There are a lot of bad apples in this fairly small barrel. The lesson here, apparently, is that it doesn’t take very many “Asians” at all for them to set up these gangs and start raping everybody.

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    • Replies: @J.Ross
    We are still thinking of Islam as some equivalent to Christianity when it is completely different. There is absolutely nothing perverse or abnormal about any of this, except its location. This was a completely predictable event. Prior to the modern era, a constant threat to European women was being taken by Muslims to be used as rape slaves. Islam doesn't have the same categoric disapproval of sex that became normal in Christianity, but it does spend a lot of time on making sure you select the right victim and worry about consequences. Islam pointedly encourages the regular mistreatment and exploitation of non-Muslims (justified as an incentive to conversion) in a way that has no scriptural parallel to Christianity (the parallel would be Jesus telling his disciples to kill all that oppose them and take their women).
    , @Louis Renault
    A small barrel? How many people in Birmingham can figure out how to ride a train for 45 minutes to see thier favorite groomed girl?

    https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50065/population_and_census/1003/population_in_birmingham/3
    Or if you prefer:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Birmingham#Ethnicity
    , @James N. Kennett

    Telford’s population is predominantly White, comprising 93.8% of the population. The next largest ethnic group is those of Asian descent, comprising 3.3% of the population, which is again less than the West Midlands at 8.0%, and England at 5.3%.
     
    If Rotherham is any guide, child rapists will form a few percent of the male Muslim population. This is obviously a small minority, but probably amounts to 100 times the prevalence of such crimes among the native population.

    This paradox allows SJWs to say "90% of Muslims are innocent. What is your problem? Are you racist or something?" Thus they allow themselves to ignore a hundred-fold differential in the propensity for serious crime: not only child abuse, but also spree killings and bombings with a political, religious, or tribal motivation. The latter might be called "hate crimes", the category that SJWs pretend to oppose most of all.

    You can be sure that, if gangs of white men had been systematically abusing thousands of immigrant children, it would not have been covered up for so long.

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  13. @Bill P
    An important question is how many of the clients were white cops, politicians, barristers, judges etc. Probably more than a few when those numbers come up and it's been hidden for years.

    You can't just hide something this widespread without some collaboration on the part of the native officials. And that collaboration goes beyond simply avoiding "racism." In fact, this whole cultural sensitivity thing sounds like an excuse to me. Frankly, I'm really tired of seeing white scumbags get off the hook both here in the US and abroad.

    Oh right–the really important question is how to find a way to pin at least some of this on white males. Yep, with your customary laser-like focus you’ve found the real issue here. Just one question: Why waste your talents on iSteve when the MSM is hiring?

    Oh yeah, they’re not hiring any more, are they.

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    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    And if just one of these victimized girls is non-white, the media will deny the racial nature of the crime. We're all getting used to how the media/left handles these sorts of things.
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  14. @Jack D
    When the first priest abuse story in Boston came out, people said, "Oh that Father Geoghan was awful but thank God it was an isolated incident and he was the only one." But then Boston Globe Spotlight reporters consulted an expert who said that based on historic data, x% (I think it might have been 4%) of priests were child abusers. The Globe people found out how many priests there were in Boston and multiplied and they came up with a number (in the hundreds) and after they were done investigating that number turned out to be almost exactly right.

    I suspect the same thing is true in England - Rotherham will turn out not to be unusual but entirely typical so that every single English community with a Pakistani population (which means almost every single English community) will have similar offenders at a similar rate as in Rotherham.

    I think we can all agree that homosexuals are a threat to young boys and should never be allowed to be in any unsupervised position of authority with children whether as priests, coaches, teachers, scout leaders, rabbis or parents.

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    • Agree: JMcG, Thea
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Buffalo's Catholic bishop is pondering whether to publish the names of all the known pedo-priests in the diocese. A recent article in the Buffalo News listed 19 that they could find. Truly sad in the sense that this was allowed to continue.
    , @J.Ross
    I disagree and am feeling the old "everybody is a paid troll sent by David Brock" feelings because of your selfless need to speak for "everyone here."
    , @Anonymous
    They're probably perfectly safe around girls.
    , @Jack D
    It seems to me that priests were particularly bad because they were not permitted to have normal (or at least normal for homosexuals) sex lives. But I gather that statistically the rate for priests was probably not much worse than other groups - they just got a lot more publicity.

    The real offenses of the Church were in these areas:

    1. They encouraged (or at least looked the other way) young gay men to become priests because they were having a hard time finding non-gay men to do this job. A lot of well meaning young Catholic gay men thought that celibacy was better than sin so they chose the priesthood but once in it they found that they could not keep their vows.

    2. When abusive priests were discovered, they covered up the abuse and shuffled the abusive priests to other postings, repeatedly - that was biggest crime. Part of that was the "therapeutic" climate of the time - the idea that you could just get these guys some therapy and they would be "fixed" and could resume their jobs.
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  15. Teflon Telford.

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  16. @Malcolm X-Lax
    Trump needs to comment on this. Otherwise the US media will ignore it. I was a little disappointed Tucker didn't cover it this evening.

    He also ought to congratulate the hard working and probably non-corrupt FBI field agents who made that huge drug bust in San Diego.

    That amount of drugs had the potential to kill millions. Of course, it probably wouldn’t kill millions, just destroy their lives.

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    • Replies: @wren
    https://www.twitter.com/FBISanDiego/status/971971305187639296

    Mexicans, and Mexican ccartels.
    , @Perplexed
    Fentanyl is really bad news--it has sent Emergency Room staff, cops, and police dogs to the hospital.
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  17. @Bill P
    An important question is how many of the clients were white cops, politicians, barristers, judges etc. Probably more than a few when those numbers come up and it's been hidden for years.

    You can't just hide something this widespread without some collaboration on the part of the native officials. And that collaboration goes beyond simply avoiding "racism." In fact, this whole cultural sensitivity thing sounds like an excuse to me. Frankly, I'm really tired of seeing white scumbags get off the hook both here in the US and abroad.

    Frankly, I’m really tired of seeing white scumbags get off the hook both here in the US and abroad.

    Cf. Thomas Hamilton of Dunblane. (At least he missed Andy Murray that day.)

    On a brighter note, Mrs Scumbag was not elected here in 2016.

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  18. @Johnny Smoggins
    I think we can all agree that homosexuals are a threat to young boys and should never be allowed to be in any unsupervised position of authority with children whether as priests, coaches, teachers, scout leaders, rabbis or parents.

    Buffalo’s Catholic bishop is pondering whether to publish the names of all the known pedo-priests in the diocese. A recent article in the Buffalo News listed 19 that they could find. Truly sad in the sense that this was allowed to continue.

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  19. @wren
    He also ought to congratulate the hard working and probably non-corrupt FBI field agents who made that huge drug bust in San Diego.

    That amount of drugs had the potential to kill millions. Of course, it probably wouldn't kill millions, just destroy their lives.

    https://www.twitter.com/FBISanDiego/status/971878549513699329

    Mexicans, and Mexican ccartels.

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    • Replies: @Escher
    They are sending their best (product).
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  20. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Remember Pizzagate? I always thought that was a pretty stupid story.

    But when the police and the government successfully cover something like this up for forty years, then I can understand why it’s not so hard for people to believe in something like Pizzagate.

    And to be fair to the believers, James Alefantis and John Podesta didn’t really do much to convince people otherwise either.

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  21. Isn’t another scandal here English prole breakdown? It shouldn’t be too hard for white adolescents and teens to avoid having Pakistani gangs get their claws in them in a 94% white town. And who were the customers?

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    And who were the customers?
     
    If it was anything like Rotherham the customers were fellow Pakistanis such as uncles, cousins and brothers. From what I heard single muslim men can't have sex with muslim girls until they marry them since muslim girls are as pure as the driven snow. Therefore these guys need a way to satisfy their urges prior to marriage, and infidel white girls fit the bill.

    The girls are plied with drugs and then passed around from brother to uncle to cousin. I could be wrong about Telford, but that is the way I've heard people explain how it happened in Rotherham.
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  22. @anon

    The safe bet is that this is pretty much of a nationwide disgrace due to Diversity Worship.
     
    From Wikipedia:

    Telford's population is predominantly White, comprising 93.8% of the population. The next largest ethnic group is those of Asian descent, comprising 3.3% of the population, which is again less than the West Midlands at 8.0%, and England at 5.3%.
     
    So, the thing is, it isn't even really very diverse at all. There are a lot of bad apples in this fairly small barrel. The lesson here, apparently, is that it doesn't take very many "Asians" at all for them to set up these gangs and start raping everybody.

    We are still thinking of Islam as some equivalent to Christianity when it is completely different. There is absolutely nothing perverse or abnormal about any of this, except its location. This was a completely predictable event. Prior to the modern era, a constant threat to European women was being taken by Muslims to be used as rape slaves. Islam doesn’t have the same categoric disapproval of sex that became normal in Christianity, but it does spend a lot of time on making sure you select the right victim and worry about consequences. Islam pointedly encourages the regular mistreatment and exploitation of non-Muslims (justified as an incentive to conversion) in a way that has no scriptural parallel to Christianity (the parallel would be Jesus telling his disciples to kill all that oppose them and take their women).

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    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    I wonder if there is a difference here between Sunni and Shia. These stories seem to involve only Sunnis.
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  23. @Johnny Smoggins
    I think we can all agree that homosexuals are a threat to young boys and should never be allowed to be in any unsupervised position of authority with children whether as priests, coaches, teachers, scout leaders, rabbis or parents.

    I disagree and am feeling the old “everybody is a paid troll sent by David Brock” feelings because of your selfless need to speak for “everyone here.”

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  24. @anon

    The safe bet is that this is pretty much of a nationwide disgrace due to Diversity Worship.
     
    From Wikipedia:

    Telford's population is predominantly White, comprising 93.8% of the population. The next largest ethnic group is those of Asian descent, comprising 3.3% of the population, which is again less than the West Midlands at 8.0%, and England at 5.3%.
     
    So, the thing is, it isn't even really very diverse at all. There are a lot of bad apples in this fairly small barrel. The lesson here, apparently, is that it doesn't take very many "Asians" at all for them to set up these gangs and start raping everybody.

    A small barrel? How many people in Birmingham can figure out how to ride a train for 45 minutes to see thier favorite groomed girl?

    https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50065/population_and_census/1003/population_in_birmingham/3

    Or if you prefer:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_Birmingham#Ethnicity

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  25. @Buffalo Joe
    Time to bring back the gallows.

    Time to bring back the gallows.

    Where’s Jack Ketch when you need him….

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  26. An important question is why, at the first instance of reported sex abuse, the town leaders did not launch an investigation. Sensitivity towards immigrants is not an excuse.

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  27. @Jack D
    When the first priest abuse story in Boston came out, people said, "Oh that Father Geoghan was awful but thank God it was an isolated incident and he was the only one." But then Boston Globe Spotlight reporters consulted an expert who said that based on historic data, x% (I think it might have been 4%) of priests were child abusers. The Globe people found out how many priests there were in Boston and multiplied and they came up with a number (in the hundreds) and after they were done investigating that number turned out to be almost exactly right.

    I suspect the same thing is true in England - Rotherham will turn out not to be unusual but entirely typical so that every single English community with a Pakistani population (which means almost every single English community) will have similar offenders at a similar rate as in Rotherham.

    If someone really wants to have sex with minors, the smart way to do it is by becoming a schoolteacher. Unlike with priests, the media will assume that you are fellow Democrat/leftist, so they’ll only give the matter passing coverage and be surprisingly sympathetic to the perp.

    The pay is better too, and if you’re public school, you may continue to be paid even if you no longer teach.

    If you’re an attractive female, your picture will probably be in the paper though.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Last I heard Mary Kay Letorneau was doing okay.
    , @Jack D
    People are sort of missing my point which really has nothing to do with priests. The point is that if a certain group offends at a certain rate in one place, the same group will probably offend at a similar rate in other similar places. So if you aren't seeing those offenses, it's probably not because they didn't actually happen but just because you haven't found them yet.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    You're attributing the worst to priests. I suspect most of them went into the priesthood with good intentions, perhaps trying to avoid homosexual or pedophilic tendencies. Although they need to be kept away from children, many abuser priests may be sympathetic on some level.

    Female teachers who sleep with teenage boys should be fired, but not prosecuted. They are entirely unsympathetic as people and inappropriate to have in the school system. But they haven't really done damage to anyone except themselves and their families.
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  28. @Johnny Smoggins
    I think we can all agree that homosexuals are a threat to young boys and should never be allowed to be in any unsupervised position of authority with children whether as priests, coaches, teachers, scout leaders, rabbis or parents.

    They’re probably perfectly safe around girls.

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  29. @Almost Missouri
    If someone really wants to have sex with minors, the smart way to do it is by becoming a schoolteacher. Unlike with priests, the media will assume that you are fellow Democrat/leftist, so they'll only give the matter passing coverage and be surprisingly sympathetic to the perp.

    The pay is better too, and if you're public school, you may continue to be paid even if you no longer teach.

    If you're an attractive female, your picture will probably be in the paper though.

    Last I heard Mary Kay Letorneau was doing okay.

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  30. @Bill P
    An important question is how many of the clients were white cops, politicians, barristers, judges etc. Probably more than a few when those numbers come up and it's been hidden for years.

    You can't just hide something this widespread without some collaboration on the part of the native officials. And that collaboration goes beyond simply avoiding "racism." In fact, this whole cultural sensitivity thing sounds like an excuse to me. Frankly, I'm really tired of seeing white scumbags get off the hook both here in the US and abroad.

    Agreed

    Men of Color come from maternal societies that respect women and must learn misogyny from white men

    Plus those white firms wanted the D

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    It is a racial issue all across western Europe. Indigenous whites are expendable. They are being bred, raped and intimidated out of existance to make way for a Brave New World inhabited by Alpha People of Colour.
    , @Brutusale
    This comment has to be Peak Duck. Ted Kennedy treated women like so much used toilet paper, and even he wasn't as much a misogynist as the average black guy.
    , @Escher
    They come from maternal societies because their paters are missing.
    , @fish
    Ohs Tony’s....we all be knowin who be wantin the “D” here.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/trentdenton1


    Lenders “gibben tiny Trent teh bid “D” fo yearz” Pittsnocchio
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  31. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Isn't another scandal here English prole breakdown? It shouldn't be too hard for white adolescents and teens to avoid having Pakistani gangs get their claws in them in a 94% white town. And who were the customers?

    And who were the customers?

    If it was anything like Rotherham the customers were fellow Pakistanis such as uncles, cousins and brothers. From what I heard single muslim men can’t have sex with muslim girls until they marry them since muslim girls are as pure as the driven snow. Therefore these guys need a way to satisfy their urges prior to marriage, and infidel white girls fit the bill.

    The girls are plied with drugs and then passed around from brother to uncle to cousin. I could be wrong about Telford, but that is the way I’ve heard people explain how it happened in Rotherham.

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    And who were the customers?

    If it was anything like Rotherham the customers were fellow Pakistanis such as uncles, cousins and brothers.
     
    That's also my understanding.
    , @Steve-O
    “Fellow Pakistanis such as uncles, cousins, and brothers.” Given how inbred they are, isn’t that redundant?
    , @Mr. Anon

    The girls are plied with drugs and then passed around from brother to uncle to cousin.
     
    They do the same thing in America with gas stations (financed by the SBA).
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  32. @Johnny Smoggins
    I think we can all agree that homosexuals are a threat to young boys and should never be allowed to be in any unsupervised position of authority with children whether as priests, coaches, teachers, scout leaders, rabbis or parents.

    It seems to me that priests were particularly bad because they were not permitted to have normal (or at least normal for homosexuals) sex lives. But I gather that statistically the rate for priests was probably not much worse than other groups – they just got a lot more publicity.

    The real offenses of the Church were in these areas:

    1. They encouraged (or at least looked the other way) young gay men to become priests because they were having a hard time finding non-gay men to do this job. A lot of well meaning young Catholic gay men thought that celibacy was better than sin so they chose the priesthood but once in it they found that they could not keep their vows.

    2. When abusive priests were discovered, they covered up the abuse and shuffled the abusive priests to other postings, repeatedly – that was biggest crime. Part of that was the “therapeutic” climate of the time – the idea that you could just get these guys some therapy and they would be “fixed” and could resume their jobs.

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    Yes, exactly. A very small percentage of priests, but 67% of bishops shuffled around these abusers, and largely because they didn't have enough priests to replace them (one hopes. They thought that they didn't care about the damage at all is too horrible to contemplate). That's institutional rot. The same thing at the heart of Rotherham and Telford.

    Take away a few pensions for dereliction of duty and it might prevent cops from doing it. I don't know how you otherwise incent bishops.
    , @Anonymous
    I submit that all religions with paid clergy tend to attract a disproportional number of homosexuals to the clerical ranks. Even fundie denominations have their share, despite their doctrinal aversion to homosexuality and their willingness to at least state the matter with some clarity. Mainline denominations seem to have more.

    The difference with the Roman Catholic Church is the deep pockets provided by the ecclesiastical structure. In many Protestant churches, a minister of a church is an employee of that particular church, and malfeasance on his part is going up the chain as far as that congregation's finances (and most churches have little assets beyond perhaps the ground and buildings, often those are mortgaged.) In the Catholic Church the priest is an employee of a diocese or archdiocese, which in turn has substantial financial ties all the way up to the Vatican. A lot of archdioceses have a lot of money, and substantial real assets besides the churches themselves. A Baptist preacher caught with underage boys is just not going to be an attractive target for a lawsuit. A Catholic diocesan priest could lead to collecting on an eight figure judgment.

    Heterosexual Catholic priests are not without sin, of course, but traditionally they were smart to only fool with married women and with ones who had as much to lose as they did if discovered. Most did, or they went on vacation ("retreat" ) outside the parish, preferably outside the diocese, and rounded some up a la carte.
    , @AnotherDad


    2. When abusive priests were discovered, they covered up the abuse and shuffled the abusive priests to other postings, repeatedly – that was biggest crime. Part of that was the “therapeutic” climate of the time – the idea that you could just get these guys some therapy and they would be “fixed” and could resume their jobs.
     
    Well said Jack.

    Your #2 is the heart of the issue. Forgiveness of sin is an issue that belongs to the victims and ultimately to God. But it is not some sort of blank check. It comes only with both acknowledgement, repentance and penance. A proper course here would have been these scumbags acknowledging their sin to their victims, and facing the legal consequences of their actions, then if still in the priesthood being packed off to monastery for some sackcloth and ashes, prayer and reflection. Certainly no further contact with youth should have been possible.

    Forgiveness is not supposed to be excuse making and--much worse--enabling--which is what the Church did. What the Church did was in line with 60s, 70s happy talk "theraputic" doctrine, not in line with Catholic doctrine.

    ~
    I will say on #1, the millions of Catholic clergy down through the ages have been celibate--no doubt a decent chunk of them chosing such a life because they were homosexual and not attracted to marriage. In fact a lot of non-clergy down through the ages have been celibate. This idea that everyone needs to be humping 24-7-365 and if you're not you'll just explode is a thoroughly modern one. Plenty of people waited for marriage. And plenty of people never found marriages, or lost their spouse, or otherwise did not have sexual relations for long periods of time ... and were still alive. While certainly not for me--i had definite interest in the priesthood as a kid and adolescent, but also a lot of intense interest in girls and i wised up--a life of celibacy and devotion the religious vocation, while not normal, is entirely within the capability of a lot of people. While there have no doubt been many abusers, there have been many--i would guess most--homosexual priests who kept their vows and performed admirably down through the ages.

    However, i think the sexed up culture--plus the normalization of Catholicism in America and modernity and decline in religious belief--did make finding normal priests more difficult. And this enlarged percentage of homosexuals created within the hierarchy homosexual cliques and sympathizers, who then distorted Christian ideas of forgiveness into allowing the homosexual predators to run wild without comeuppance.
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  33. It is more likely that this is just another data cluster in a massive nationwide outbreak of attacks upon English girls from single parent homes.
    If you combine suppressed data from all the other medium & large English cities (Oxford, Sheffield, Coventry, Bradford, Leeds, etc…..or anywhere with any Pakistani/Afghani/Bangladeshi/… populations), you are likely to see that this is a systemic problem.

    The only things restricting it:
    -presence of strong fathers
    -more segregation of Whites away from Muslim areas
    -less corruption/obeisance to political correctness by local law enforcement

    The harm done to the thousands of working class English girls & their families would be enough to start a revolution in a sane country. The English bureaucratic milieu (town & city governments, social services) was profoundly corrupted in the period 1985-2005 -first as a vengeful reaction to Thatcherism, and laterly as brainwashing to demoralize, delegitimize English culture, pride & shred the social fabric
    At the heart of this is the Smilingly Evil strategem of Blairism. He & most of his cabinet ministers were serpents.

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  34. Meanwhile the British authorities are cracking down on the real issue: keeping public figures with the wrong ideas about Islam out of the country. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/12/lauren-southern-banned-uk-terror/

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    Meanwhile the British authorities are cracking down on the real issue: keeping public figures with the wrong ideas about Islam out of the country. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/12/lauren-southern-banned-uk-terror/
     
    I'm getting a little worried about certain UK subjects with heterodox thoughts who have not been heard from lately. Little Little Miss Muffett has been entirely quiescent. Maybe Big Little Miss Muffett has squelched her on the grounds she does not want to be put on a plane back to Akron and banished from the dentally challenged lily pad forever?

    Or perhaps the carrot rather than the stick is being employed. Despite her antiestablishment persona, no daughter of a Cleveland phone repairman is going to turn down the House of Lords. And her kid is not going to spoil Mumsy's experience.

    Who knows about such things?
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  35. @istevefan

    And who were the customers?
     
    If it was anything like Rotherham the customers were fellow Pakistanis such as uncles, cousins and brothers. From what I heard single muslim men can't have sex with muslim girls until they marry them since muslim girls are as pure as the driven snow. Therefore these guys need a way to satisfy their urges prior to marriage, and infidel white girls fit the bill.

    The girls are plied with drugs and then passed around from brother to uncle to cousin. I could be wrong about Telford, but that is the way I've heard people explain how it happened in Rotherham.

    And who were the customers?

    If it was anything like Rotherham the customers were fellow Pakistanis such as uncles, cousins and brothers.

    That’s also my understanding.

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  36. It appears the media and govt response applauded by upper class White women is to grovel before Muslims and forbid any criticism.

    No end to the ways upper class White women are the enemy of the working class.

    Upper class women are not being pimped out and raped

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    Right like outsourcing all their jobs. Oh wait nevermind that was men.
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  37. @Almost Missouri
    If someone really wants to have sex with minors, the smart way to do it is by becoming a schoolteacher. Unlike with priests, the media will assume that you are fellow Democrat/leftist, so they'll only give the matter passing coverage and be surprisingly sympathetic to the perp.

    The pay is better too, and if you're public school, you may continue to be paid even if you no longer teach.

    If you're an attractive female, your picture will probably be in the paper though.

    People are sort of missing my point which really has nothing to do with priests. The point is that if a certain group offends at a certain rate in one place, the same group will probably offend at a similar rate in other similar places. So if you aren’t seeing those offenses, it’s probably not because they didn’t actually happen but just because you haven’t found them yet.

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    We got it D. And you right. We just riffin.
    , @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    Only a very, very small percentage of gay men are pedos. They self-segregate in professions like priesthood because it gives them easy access to kids. As a result you see it a lot less among other clusters of gay men. And the majority of gay men (60-80% most likely) are what we call 'bottoms'. They are after Hugh Jackman look-a-likes who will pound their rectums into oblivion, not children.
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  38. One grooming is a tragedy. A thousand groomings is a statistic.

    Over time no one will care.

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    I wonder if the Pakis have created a new generation of victims and families of victims who will grow up hating them.
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  39. Amazingly, >1000 children sexually abused, some of them murdered, doesn’t get a write up in the NYTimes in the #MeToo era. And yet the same day they devote a whole article to this UK immigration related story:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/11/world/europe/uk-muslims-letters.html

    It could be a serious threat, it could be just trolling, or it could be a hate hoax, but whatever it is, so far it has led to zero actual victims of physical violence. So it would seem ever so slightly less consequential than the Telford story at this point, but I guess that’s why I’m not a newspaper editor.

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    I see an elegant and historically normative explanation for how the feelings of one group of people could be more important than the bodies of another.
    , @Pericles
    Pinch Sulzberger, what a great guy.

    The Guardian front page: "New Zealand: Jacinda Ardern's Labour rocked by youth camp sexual assault allegations" "Sexual violence: UK criticised for failing to give to fund for survivors of UN sexual abuse" "The long read: How the most vulnerable workers are targeted for sexual abuse"

    NO MENTION OF TELFORD.

    M-m-muh N-n-narrative ... M-m-muh Victorian trust fund ... M-muh qua-quality journalism ... M-muh sexy muslims ... N-n-narrative ... you must see ... look, be reasonable ... M-muh well meaning ...
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  40. @Anonymous
    Oh right--the really important question is how to find a way to pin at least some of this on white males. Yep, with your customary laser-like focus you've found the real issue here. Just one question: Why waste your talents on iSteve when the MSM is hiring?

    Oh yeah, they're not hiring any more, are they.

    And if just one of these victimized girls is non-white, the media will deny the racial nature of the crime. We’re all getting used to how the media/left handles these sorts of things.

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  41. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Things like this can’t go on for so long under everyone’s nose without very many people becoming aware that things like this are going on. Just word of mouth would spread it. It’s apparent that people deliberately turned a blind eye to it all. Now the theories of how it could go on like that are being raised: it was a class thing, it was PC, the chav class are in disintegration mode, etc. Really, can anyone give a reason that would make sense to the average, presumably normal, person?

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    How much current events are you aware of in your nearest self-walling ethnic community? Years ago we in Detroit were shocked to learn that Indians have a mafia that was shaking down Indian phone store owners. We only knew because they sloppily killed two holdouts and left the bodies. Check out V-Dare coverage of South Asian Medical Fraud and ask yourself when was the last time you heard anything like this in legacy media.
    , @Almost Missouri
    "Word of mouth" doesn't "spread" from self-segregated parallel communities.
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  42. @Almost Missouri
    If someone really wants to have sex with minors, the smart way to do it is by becoming a schoolteacher. Unlike with priests, the media will assume that you are fellow Democrat/leftist, so they'll only give the matter passing coverage and be surprisingly sympathetic to the perp.

    The pay is better too, and if you're public school, you may continue to be paid even if you no longer teach.

    If you're an attractive female, your picture will probably be in the paper though.

    You’re attributing the worst to priests. I suspect most of them went into the priesthood with good intentions, perhaps trying to avoid homosexual or pedophilic tendencies. Although they need to be kept away from children, many abuser priests may be sympathetic on some level.

    Female teachers who sleep with teenage boys should be fired, but not prosecuted. They are entirely unsympathetic as people and inappropriate to have in the school system. But they haven’t really done damage to anyone except themselves and their families.

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    If they are having sex with boys under the age of consent, they are breaking the law and should be prosecuted, even though the victims are not very harmed by the practice. Any woman if not repulsive, smelly, diseased or very elderly can get all she wants with men of legal age.
    , @Pericles

    You’re attributing the worst to priests. I suspect most of them went into the priesthood with good intentions, perhaps trying to avoid homosexual or pedophilic tendencies.

     

    Excerpt from diary: "I must at all costs avoid my pedophilic tendencies. So it will either be the priesthood or becoming a teacher. My intentions are, after all, good."
    , @L Woods
    Please pray tell what damage would be done if the genders are reversed, that isn't done by being passed around by the football team.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Perhaps, but you could just as easily say that the teachers had good intentions, and just succumbed to nympho tendencies.
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  43. a nationwide disgrace due to Diversity Worship

    Wow. Forty comments in, and Jonathan Mason hasn’t written in to explain how child abuse is as English as Shakespeare and the girls all lower-class sluts and whores anyhow.

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    Wow. Forty comments in, and Jonathan Mason hasn’t written in to explain how child abuse is as English as Shakespeare and the girls all lower-class sluts and whores anyhow.
     
    Thanks for providing a link to my piece about Rotherham. I looked through it again in the light of your criticisms, but I didn't really see anything that I would change.

    I have read parts of the Jay Report, perhaps not in as much detail as you, but it seems to me to be largely a rehashing of what was already in other reports, a few sensational anecdotes, and a retooling of the narrative to use highly emotive language. I still think the number of 1400 victims is just a speculative number, probably exaggerated for effect.

    Am I glad that members of the Pakistani family at the center of some specific allegations have been locked up? Yes.

    By the way, have you even been to Rotherham? I grew up not too far from Rotherham, and although I have only ever been there a couple of times, I am very familiar with similar milieus in South Yorkshire, and North Lancashire mill towns like Blackburn and Burnley, and lived for some time when I was an impoverished student in the red light districts of the West Riding. I am also very familiar with Keighley which had a similar child sex scandal, as my sister works at the hospital there.

    The stories told by some of the Rotherham girls do not seem to qualitatively differ very much from the kind of things I still regularly hear today from women who grew up in the gulag of trailer parks here in Florida and all over the New South. Mothers on drugs, sexually abused by stepfathers and neighbors, started taking drugs early themselves, etc.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

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  44. @anony-mouse
    One grooming is a tragedy. A thousand groomings is a statistic.

    Over time no one will care.

    I wonder if the Pakis have created a new generation of victims and families of victims who will grow up hating them.

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  45. @anonymous
    Things like this can't go on for so long under everyone's nose without very many people becoming aware that things like this are going on. Just word of mouth would spread it. It's apparent that people deliberately turned a blind eye to it all. Now the theories of how it could go on like that are being raised: it was a class thing, it was PC, the chav class are in disintegration mode, etc. Really, can anyone give a reason that would make sense to the average, presumably normal, person?

    How much current events are you aware of in your nearest self-walling ethnic community? Years ago we in Detroit were shocked to learn that Indians have a mafia that was shaking down Indian phone store owners. We only knew because they sloppily killed two holdouts and left the bodies. Check out V-Dare coverage of South Asian Medical Fraud and ask yourself when was the last time you heard anything like this in legacy media.

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    Thanks, I had no idea V-Dare was covering this. The alt-Right could pay more attention to medical fraud as it touches all the bases. Instead of training our own medical professionals, we import them. The quality is doubtful; there are even fake-diploma mills. Why can India train all these people while we can't? I believe that various ethnic groups, led by our homegrown most special one, have riddled our healthcare system with billions in fraud.

    The ethnic mafia control of healthcare is bases on the fact that they have no affinity for the American people: we are sheep to be sheared. That is the problem with current immigration. They come here to get rich by scamming whitey anyway they can. Broad brush. Yes I know. Some people love their immigrant doctors and obviously not all ethnic practitioners are frauds. But a ton of fraud is hiding behind their exceptionalism.

    The other issue it touches on is controlling medical costs. If Trump could actually bring down medical costs and especially pharmacy costs, it would help the ordinary person's economy and insure reelection. I realize the GOP could care less, so it would have to come from him.
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  46. @Yossarian
    Amazingly, >1000 children sexually abused, some of them murdered, doesn't get a write up in the NYTimes in the #MeToo era. And yet the same day they devote a whole article to this UK immigration related story:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/11/world/europe/uk-muslims-letters.html

    It could be a serious threat, it could be just trolling, or it could be a hate hoax, but whatever it is, so far it has led to zero actual victims of physical violence. So it would seem ever so slightly less consequential than the Telford story at this point, but I guess that's why I'm not a newspaper editor.

    I see an elegant and historically normative explanation for how the feelings of one group of people could be more important than the bodies of another.

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    Hurting feelings of a community within a multi-ethnic country can lead to riots. Group rights & feelings will come before individual rights & liberty in any multi-ethnic country in order to maintain social peace. (I am not a big fan of it but it seems to be a reality).

    Whites do not (or cannot) organize themselves as an ethnic group and prefer to be treated as individuals. Hence their individual rights are superseded by group rights of others.

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  47. @Bill P
    An important question is how many of the clients were white cops, politicians, barristers, judges etc. Probably more than a few when those numbers come up and it's been hidden for years.

    You can't just hide something this widespread without some collaboration on the part of the native officials. And that collaboration goes beyond simply avoiding "racism." In fact, this whole cultural sensitivity thing sounds like an excuse to me. Frankly, I'm really tired of seeing white scumbags get off the hook both here in the US and abroad.

    ‘collaboration goes beyond simply avoiding “racism.”’

    I have to agree. Reflect on the people you’ve known who have risen high in organizations, and especially in government bureaucracies. In my experience, they are often twisted and selfish people. Such people would not turn a blind eye for a “noble” reason such as avoiding racism, but would readily turn a blind eye for some kind of payoff. I wouldn’t be surprised if all this talk about “avoiding racism” is simply cover for straightforward corruption.

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  48. @Jack D
    People are sort of missing my point which really has nothing to do with priests. The point is that if a certain group offends at a certain rate in one place, the same group will probably offend at a similar rate in other similar places. So if you aren't seeing those offenses, it's probably not because they didn't actually happen but just because you haven't found them yet.

    We got it D. And you right. We just riffin.

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  49. @anonymous
    Things like this can't go on for so long under everyone's nose without very many people becoming aware that things like this are going on. Just word of mouth would spread it. It's apparent that people deliberately turned a blind eye to it all. Now the theories of how it could go on like that are being raised: it was a class thing, it was PC, the chav class are in disintegration mode, etc. Really, can anyone give a reason that would make sense to the average, presumably normal, person?

    “Word of mouth” doesn’t “spread” from self-segregated parallel communities.

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  50. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    This won’t stop until there is strict punishment. One reason they keep doing it is the light punishment.

    The girls are fatherless. You could also fix the problem by fixing the single mother social breakdown.

    Matriarchy = Death

    Of course, you can’t change status quo until the economy crashes. It is the affluent society that allows this. As long as the bankers keep the money flowing then social breakdown can be rationalized.

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    The solution is ethnic homogeneity. What does being fatherless have to do with these white girls being targeted by primitive Third World men? I presume these Pakistani raping monsters have daddy uncles living at home, their own mothers being such paragons of covered-up modesty and virtue.
    , @Bill B.

    The girls are fatherless
     
    Not necessarily. In the Rotherham enquiry it came up that several girls had loving families. Remember that there were reports of fathers being threatened with arrest by the police for making a fuss.

    The police and the local authorities have been rightly criticized but it is also worth focusing on the attitudes of the Pakistanis themselves who have acting with cunning and absolutely ruthlessness to entrap girls habituated to a much milder and less predatory "soft" culture.

    The ordinarily mild British sanctions designed to change behavior simply don't work because the men know that even in the unlikely event they are caught their punishments will be mild and not seen as a stigma in their own section of society.
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  51. @Jack D
    People are sort of missing my point which really has nothing to do with priests. The point is that if a certain group offends at a certain rate in one place, the same group will probably offend at a similar rate in other similar places. So if you aren't seeing those offenses, it's probably not because they didn't actually happen but just because you haven't found them yet.

    Only a very, very small percentage of gay men are pedos. They self-segregate in professions like priesthood because it gives them easy access to kids. As a result you see it a lot less among other clusters of gay men. And the majority of gay men (60-80% most likely) are what we call ‘bottoms’. They are after Hugh Jackman look-a-likes who will pound their rectums into oblivion, not children.

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    They're all pederasts though.

    Don't make me bring out my Bryan Singer pictures again.

    , @JMcG
    They generally were not what I’d call pedophiles. It wasn’t, with some exceptions, prepubescent boys they were going after. This canard about gays not being pedos is always thrown out there to distract from that fact.
    The lavender mafia has effectively destroyed the Catholic Church in the US and Europe. I say that with a great deal of sadness.
    Expect married priests before the current “pope” is finished, followed soon after by married gay priests.
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  52. @Clyde
    The English are not very perturbed by all this Pakistani rape, pimping out and drugging of English girls and teens. Some say it is a class matter where these young females are looked upon as trash, so the police, the social workers, the hack politicians, none cared or care. A very disgusting situation to have your young native females assaulted and ruined by foreigners you let in. Who immigrate purely for economic reasons...and now rape too.

    They’re awful even to their own kids, why expect them to treat others’ any better?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5491807/Father-recruited-perform-FGM-daughter-10.html

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  53. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    You’re attributing the worst to priests. I suspect most of them went into the priesthood with good intentions, perhaps trying to avoid homosexual or pedophilic tendencies.

    Hah, most of those blokes went into the priesthood for the very purpose of gaining access to the objects of their desire. Also, they get to be the center of attention while sashaying around in colorful robes. Just like Liberace. They knew what they were doing.

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  54. @Clyde
    The English are not very perturbed by all this Pakistani rape, pimping out and drugging of English girls and teens. Some say it is a class matter where these young females are looked upon as trash, so the police, the social workers, the hack politicians, none cared or care. A very disgusting situation to have your young native females assaulted and ruined by foreigners you let in. Who immigrate purely for economic reasons...and now rape too.

    What do you think upset the people of Telford the most? This story or the Polish plumber down the street?

    It’s the latter. By far.

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    The idea that the British are burning to exterminate all non-British whites, but that none of that violent xenophobia ever manages to spill over to non-whites, is a laughable project of MIsomething in impotent initial reaction to Brexit.
    , @Lurker
    The MSM push the latter (while claiming not to) but in normal everyday life talking to regular people you hear little complaint about Poles, plumbers or otherwise. The animus toward Muslims and other enrichers otoh, that's bubbling ever stronger below the surface. And Poles are pretty forthright about their thoughts on Muslims btw. Many of them are pretty woke on the JQ and commies as well.
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  55. @Jack D
    It seems to me that priests were particularly bad because they were not permitted to have normal (or at least normal for homosexuals) sex lives. But I gather that statistically the rate for priests was probably not much worse than other groups - they just got a lot more publicity.

    The real offenses of the Church were in these areas:

    1. They encouraged (or at least looked the other way) young gay men to become priests because they were having a hard time finding non-gay men to do this job. A lot of well meaning young Catholic gay men thought that celibacy was better than sin so they chose the priesthood but once in it they found that they could not keep their vows.

    2. When abusive priests were discovered, they covered up the abuse and shuffled the abusive priests to other postings, repeatedly - that was biggest crime. Part of that was the "therapeutic" climate of the time - the idea that you could just get these guys some therapy and they would be "fixed" and could resume their jobs.

    Yes, exactly. A very small percentage of priests, but 67% of bishops shuffled around these abusers, and largely because they didn’t have enough priests to replace them (one hopes. They thought that they didn’t care about the damage at all is too horrible to contemplate). That’s institutional rot. The same thing at the heart of Rotherham and Telford.

    Take away a few pensions for dereliction of duty and it might prevent cops from doing it. I don’t know how you otherwise incent bishops.

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    It wasn't institutional rot. It was the bishops ineptly trying to formulate a policy to avoid any scrutiny
    of something that had been going on, unquestioned by the laity, for centuries.

    People would always ask, knowing I was a 12-year Catholic schoolboy and an altar boy, if anything untoward ever happened. I would always truthfully answer that my parish priests were drunks, not pedos. With names like Murphy, Crowley, Walsh and Sullivan, wouldn't it stand to reason?
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  56. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    It seems to me that priests were particularly bad because they were not permitted to have normal (or at least normal for homosexuals) sex lives. But I gather that statistically the rate for priests was probably not much worse than other groups - they just got a lot more publicity.

    The real offenses of the Church were in these areas:

    1. They encouraged (or at least looked the other way) young gay men to become priests because they were having a hard time finding non-gay men to do this job. A lot of well meaning young Catholic gay men thought that celibacy was better than sin so they chose the priesthood but once in it they found that they could not keep their vows.

    2. When abusive priests were discovered, they covered up the abuse and shuffled the abusive priests to other postings, repeatedly - that was biggest crime. Part of that was the "therapeutic" climate of the time - the idea that you could just get these guys some therapy and they would be "fixed" and could resume their jobs.

    I submit that all religions with paid clergy tend to attract a disproportional number of homosexuals to the clerical ranks. Even fundie denominations have their share, despite their doctrinal aversion to homosexuality and their willingness to at least state the matter with some clarity. Mainline denominations seem to have more.

    The difference with the Roman Catholic Church is the deep pockets provided by the ecclesiastical structure. In many Protestant churches, a minister of a church is an employee of that particular church, and malfeasance on his part is going up the chain as far as that congregation’s finances (and most churches have little assets beyond perhaps the ground and buildings, often those are mortgaged.) In the Catholic Church the priest is an employee of a diocese or archdiocese, which in turn has substantial financial ties all the way up to the Vatican. A lot of archdioceses have a lot of money, and substantial real assets besides the churches themselves. A Baptist preacher caught with underage boys is just not going to be an attractive target for a lawsuit. A Catholic diocesan priest could lead to collecting on an eight figure judgment.

    Heterosexual Catholic priests are not without sin, of course, but traditionally they were smart to only fool with married women and with ones who had as much to lose as they did if discovered. Most did, or they went on vacation (“retreat” ) outside the parish, preferably outside the diocese, and rounded some up a la carte.

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  57. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    You're attributing the worst to priests. I suspect most of them went into the priesthood with good intentions, perhaps trying to avoid homosexual or pedophilic tendencies. Although they need to be kept away from children, many abuser priests may be sympathetic on some level.

    Female teachers who sleep with teenage boys should be fired, but not prosecuted. They are entirely unsympathetic as people and inappropriate to have in the school system. But they haven't really done damage to anyone except themselves and their families.

    If they are having sex with boys under the age of consent, they are breaking the law and should be prosecuted, even though the victims are not very harmed by the practice. Any woman if not repulsive, smelly, diseased or very elderly can get all she wants with men of legal age.

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    >>Any woman if not repulsive, smelly, diseased or very elderly can get all she wants with men of legal age.

    Many women, even if repulsive, smelly, diseased and elderly can get - if not all they want - very much of what they want from men of legal age. Eggs (even when beyond sell date) are expensive, thus valuable.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    If they are having sex with boys under the age of consent, they are breaking the law and should be prosecuted...
     
    A major problem with this is that we stupidly insist on the same age of consent for everybody.

    But man-on-girl, woman-on-boy, man-on-boy, and woman-on-girl are four very different acts and need to be seen and dealt with differently. The latter two are inherently perverse and should only be tolerated among those old enough to drink. The first is a disaster for the girl, her family, and the community. The second is a joke, which is why we joke about it. A sin, to be sure, but it hardly rises to a crime. Shame her out of town, but don't jail her.
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  58. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomas
    Meanwhile the British authorities are cracking down on the real issue: keeping public figures with the wrong ideas about Islam out of the country. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/12/lauren-southern-banned-uk-terror/

    Meanwhile the British authorities are cracking down on the real issue: keeping public figures with the wrong ideas about Islam out of the country. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/03/12/lauren-southern-banned-uk-terror/

    I’m getting a little worried about certain UK subjects with heterodox thoughts who have not been heard from lately. Little Little Miss Muffett has been entirely quiescent. Maybe Big Little Miss Muffett has squelched her on the grounds she does not want to be put on a plane back to Akron and banished from the dentally challenged lily pad forever?

    Or perhaps the carrot rather than the stick is being employed. Despite her antiestablishment persona, no daughter of a Cleveland phone repairman is going to turn down the House of Lords. And her kid is not going to spoil Mumsy’s experience.

    Who knows about such things?

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  59. due to Diversity Worship

    The BBC is really corrupt — I had to use the search box on the BBC news web site to find a story about this, which was otherwise well hidden.

    A de-industrialization comparable to the ‘Rust Belt’ combined with a ‘benefits’ culture has produced a British underclass that is deeply despised by the ruling elite, the same ruling elite who presided over the de-industrialization and via a socialist consensus introduced the ‘benefits’ culture in the first place — add to that an active tabloid press that sensationalizes the worst examples of the underclass — these sexually brutalized girls came from the despised white underclass.

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    It’s difficult to imagine a modern day Nevil Shute writing The Trustee From the Toolroom.
    I don’t know much about the UK, but the inner city welfare class whites in Ireland are pretty far gone.
    , @eah
    TELFORD GIRLS: THE WRONG KIND OF VICTIMS

    The #MeToo set’s silence on the rape of working-class girls is deafening...Perhaps the women of Telford are simply the wrong kind of victim...Or perhaps the Asian men accused of grooming, rape, drug-dealing, murder and paedophilia are simply the wrong kind of perpetrator. #MeToo prefers the accused to be powerful white men:...
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  60. @Anon
    Well, at least those could be seen as crimes against whites.

    But what happens when whites welcome invasion and humiliation?

    In the pic below, that is a British cop, that is a Anglo(now Junglo)-Saxon woman, and the onlookers love the New Britain.

    If any one pic captured the future of UK. At least whites still know that what Muslim gangs did wrong. But they see nothing wrong with Afro-conquest-of-white-women. White women go that way, and the cuck-faced dorks cheer on. They don't defend Britain but join Antifa to beat up whites who don't want Junglization. Enoch Powell was wrong. Rivers of Blood is not the future of UK. It's the Rivers of Semen. UK survived Dunkirk but they won't survive Dong-Kong.

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TlRlPvbfjSo/WqcoRHYr8FI/AAAAAAAAAs0/PdNakCQsrCcg0cOvJ3LY2HdaDUAUMs7UwCLcBGAs/s1600/future%2Bof%2BUK%2Bin%2Bone%2Bpic.gif

    Just sad.

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  61. @Eustace Tilley (not)
    Nietzsche spake of a "values reverse":
    We'd esteem the obscene and perverse.
    In England, it's here:
    There is nothing too queer.
    King Richard should cry for a hearse.

    This is a good one.

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  62. @Clyde
    The English are not very perturbed by all this Pakistani rape, pimping out and drugging of English girls and teens. Some say it is a class matter where these young females are looked upon as trash, so the police, the social workers, the hack politicians, none cared or care. A very disgusting situation to have your young native females assaulted and ruined by foreigners you let in. Who immigrate purely for economic reasons...and now rape too.

    Some say it is a class matter where these young females are looked upon as trash

    Elite Whites hate hate hate working class Whites.

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    It is a race matter. Whites are expendable. They are being bred, raped and intimidated out of existance.
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  63. The British newspapers & BBC aren’t talking about rape gangs because they are focussing on the real story: Putin.

    Headlines from all major newspapers:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-43381111

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  64. @Eustace Tilley (not)
    Nietzsche spake of a "values reverse":
    We'd esteem the obscene and perverse.
    In England, it's here:
    There is nothing too queer.
    King Richard should cry for a hearse.

    Nietzsche spake of a “values reverse”:
    We’d esteem the obscene and perverse.
    In England, it’s here:
    There is nothing too queer.
    King Richard should cry for a hearse.

    Extra points for “spake.”

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    "...still govern thou my song
    Urania! and fit audience find, though few."

    Paradise Lost, Book VII
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  65. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Actually, Telford was very important at the genesis of the industrial revolution in the 18th century.
    The world’s first iron bridge – made of cast iron sections bolted together – was erected at a place still named ‘Ironbridge’ in its honor. The bridge still exists and is in use.
    Ironbridge is very near Telford, where the metal was smelted and cast.

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    Okay, that's where I know the name Telford from.
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  66. @Anonymous
    Actually, Telford was very important at the genesis of the industrial revolution in the 18th century.
    The world's first iron bridge - made of cast iron sections bolted together - was erected at a place still named 'Ironbridge' in its honor. The bridge still exists and is in use.
    Ironbridge is very near Telford, where the metal was smelted and cast.

    Okay, that’s where I know the name Telford from.

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    In more recent times Telford - though it's of ancient provenance - was designated as a post war 'New Town', ie, it was largely built up from scratch in the 1960s, in order to absorb the 'overspill' population of demolished slums in the west Midlands. As such, it was highly modern and futuristic for a British town. The mystery is why were immigrants housed in a new town specifically built to house disadvantaged Brits?
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  67. I’m so glad I emigrated.

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  68. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Okay, that's where I know the name Telford from.

    In more recent times Telford – though it’s of ancient provenance – was designated as a post war ‘New Town’, ie, it was largely built up from scratch in the 1960s, in order to absorb the ‘overspill’ population of demolished slums in the west Midlands. As such, it was highly modern and futuristic for a British town. The mystery is why were immigrants housed in a new town specifically built to house disadvantaged Brits?

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    "though it’s of ancient provenance"

    There was no place called 'Telford' before the 1960s. There was a small town called Wellington.

    The new town was named after this guy, another of the great Scottish engineers, designer of many bridges still in daily use nearly 200 years later.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Telford

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  69. @Clyde
    The English are not very perturbed by all this Pakistani rape, pimping out and drugging of English girls and teens. Some say it is a class matter where these young females are looked upon as trash, so the police, the social workers, the hack politicians, none cared or care. A very disgusting situation to have your young native females assaulted and ruined by foreigners you let in. Who immigrate purely for economic reasons...and now rape too.

    “Who immigrate purely for economic reasons”

    It appears the UK absolutely had to build a dam in Pakistan. An obstacle to dam construction was the local people, Mirpuris, needed to be relocated. It is not clear why a location in Pakistan was unavailable, but to keep the project going the Mirpuris were relocated to the UK. I am guessing the UK had some vacant housing and moving the Mirpuris to the UK was cheaper than building housing in Pakistan. Filling vacant housing in the UK with rent payers was probably part of the attraction of the plan. Mirpuris are the specific group linked to these sex scandals. I cannot find info on the ratio of Mirpuris to other groups in the UK.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangla_Dam

    Forum posts about Mirpuris

    “In Pakistan itself, the Mirpuris are known as ‘janglee’ type people. Very backward and crime-ridden. The situation is no different here in the UK. Pakistani Punjabis want nothing to do with them and are ashamed of their antics.”

    Other posts mention cousin marriage. Janglee probably means Jungle.

    Mirpuris make up 90% of pakistani immigrants in the Uk if you ask most pakistanis they will say they are from mirpur. They are all related from north to south hence they have drug contacts and also prositutue under aged girls through their network (dont know if you herd about that). Look up tommy robinson edl on youtube and he highlights issues.

    http://sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/76020-pakistani-punjabis-or-mirpuris/

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    >Janglee probably means Jungle.

    Janglee can mean:

    1. Wild

    2. Inhabitant of a forest.

    3. Uncivilized.

    In South Asian culture (my father's), janglee people usually refers to tribes who were outside civilization and have only recently entered civilization.

    Yeah, if you wanted to bring migrants from South Asia, you couldn't do worse than picking up Mirpuris.


    (On a side note, the word "thug" also comes from some robber tribes in India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee)
    , @rogue-one
    >An obstacle to dam construction was the local people, Mirpuris, needed to be relocated. It is not clear why a location in Pakistan was unavailable, but to keep the project going the Mirpuris were relocated to the UK.

    This is almost unbelievable. How could it be easier to relocate people from Pakistan to UK than within Pakistan?

    Sometimes I wonder, in a China led future in 2150, whether their historians will even believe these stories. Wouldn't they consider these stories to be too crazy to be true?

    , @Daniel H
    >> It appears the UK absolutely had to build a dam in Pakistan.

    Why did the British "absolutely" have to build a dam in a foreign country? Why did the British have to agree that displaced villagers and farmers be resettled in Britain? This compulsion to act on the interests of foreign governments is a problem all over the west. It is one reason that I don't want to see the Koreas reunited. If the border came down tomorrow, South Korea would be flooded with migrants from the north (not our problem or concern) and the South Koreans would demand that the US take in 100s of thousands of such migrants, and only Donald Trump as President would tell the Koreans to go stuff it.
    , @Clyde
    The Wikipedia entry on Miripuris lists their downside...thanks! What a malignant group. Pakis out of the deliverance movie.
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  70. @Anon
    Well, at least those could be seen as crimes against whites.

    But what happens when whites welcome invasion and humiliation?

    In the pic below, that is a British cop, that is a Anglo(now Junglo)-Saxon woman, and the onlookers love the New Britain.

    If any one pic captured the future of UK. At least whites still know that what Muslim gangs did wrong. But they see nothing wrong with Afro-conquest-of-white-women. White women go that way, and the cuck-faced dorks cheer on. They don't defend Britain but join Antifa to beat up whites who don't want Junglization. Enoch Powell was wrong. Rivers of Blood is not the future of UK. It's the Rivers of Semen. UK survived Dunkirk but they won't survive Dong-Kong.

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TlRlPvbfjSo/WqcoRHYr8FI/AAAAAAAAAs0/PdNakCQsrCcg0cOvJ3LY2HdaDUAUMs7UwCLcBGAs/s1600/future%2Bof%2BUK%2Bin%2Bone%2Bpic.gif

    C’mon man this is a terrible fake, just look at the vest.

    Stop making a fool of yourself.

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  71. @Yossarian
    Amazingly, >1000 children sexually abused, some of them murdered, doesn't get a write up in the NYTimes in the #MeToo era. And yet the same day they devote a whole article to this UK immigration related story:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/11/world/europe/uk-muslims-letters.html

    It could be a serious threat, it could be just trolling, or it could be a hate hoax, but whatever it is, so far it has led to zero actual victims of physical violence. So it would seem ever so slightly less consequential than the Telford story at this point, but I guess that's why I'm not a newspaper editor.

    Pinch Sulzberger, what a great guy.

    The Guardian front page: “New Zealand: Jacinda Ardern’s Labour rocked by youth camp sexual assault allegations” “Sexual violence: UK criticised for failing to give to fund for survivors of UN sexual abuse” “The long read: How the most vulnerable workers are targeted for sexual abuse”

    NO MENTION OF TELFORD.

    M-m-muh N-n-narrative … M-m-muh Victorian trust fund … M-muh qua-quality journalism … M-muh sexy muslims … N-n-narrative … you must see … look, be reasonable … M-muh well meaning …

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    How did you manage to miss this?:

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/mar/12/1000-children-victims-worst-uk-abuse-ring-telford
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  72. Ah the sublime joy of multiracial Britain. Such vibrant diversity and cultural enrichment will surely put the Great back into Britain. Keep the immigrants coming I say.

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  73. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The fact is that a whole plethora of sex abuse scandals perpetrated by Pakistanis upon English girls have been unearthed, in recent times, from a widely spread series of English towns.
    Even Oxford has been implicated.
    The common link in all cases as a big Pakistani population – with employment of the abusers seemingly concentrated as taxi drivers or in fast food service – vital contributors to the UK export drive all.

    The obvious implication is of a system of ‘national planning’ being organised, on an ‘informal basis’ by the Pakistanis. Likely to be strongly linked with drug distribution and selling networks.

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    "Ethnic" fast food shops serving spicy sh*t, that lazy locals find tasty in comparison with bland British food, have spread all across the UK.

    On a swing through England and Wales last year I frequently saw the most nefarious looking characters staring coldly out from behind chipped formica counters even in the most traditional of villages and towns.
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  74. @Chrisnonymous
    You're attributing the worst to priests. I suspect most of them went into the priesthood with good intentions, perhaps trying to avoid homosexual or pedophilic tendencies. Although they need to be kept away from children, many abuser priests may be sympathetic on some level.

    Female teachers who sleep with teenage boys should be fired, but not prosecuted. They are entirely unsympathetic as people and inappropriate to have in the school system. But they haven't really done damage to anyone except themselves and their families.

    You’re attributing the worst to priests. I suspect most of them went into the priesthood with good intentions, perhaps trying to avoid homosexual or pedophilic tendencies.

    Excerpt from diary: “I must at all costs avoid my pedophilic tendencies. So it will either be the priesthood or becoming a teacher. My intentions are, after all, good.”

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  75. @Moses

    Some say it is a class matter where these young females are looked upon as trash
     
    Elite Whites hate hate hate working class Whites.

    It is a race matter. Whites are expendable. They are being bred, raped and intimidated out of existance.

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  76. My guess is that subcons, in general, are a lecherous and lascivious people.
    I’m sure any remaining veterans of the British Indian Colonial Army could fill in the details.

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  77. @Anonymous
    This won't stop until there is strict punishment. One reason they keep doing it is the light punishment.

    The girls are fatherless. You could also fix the problem by fixing the single mother social breakdown.

    Matriarchy = Death

    Of course, you can't change status quo until the economy crashes. It is the affluent society that allows this. As long as the bankers keep the money flowing then social breakdown can be rationalized.

    The solution is ethnic homogeneity. What does being fatherless have to do with these white girls being targeted by primitive Third World men? I presume these Pakistani raping monsters have daddy uncles living at home, their own mothers being such paragons of covered-up modesty and virtue.

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  78. “insight”

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    “as a visitor for 5 day but as you stated in your interview,”

    “I have reasons to believe”

    “speakers corner in London Hyde park”

    “Furthermore, Your boyfriend have in his possession the Leaflets with scenarios”
     
    And as you noticed:

    “likely to insight tensions”
     
    Seems the immigrants are in charge of UK immigration.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    “filming your boyfriend Martin Sellner speech”
     
    Dang, I’m probably still missing some.
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  79. @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    Only a very, very small percentage of gay men are pedos. They self-segregate in professions like priesthood because it gives them easy access to kids. As a result you see it a lot less among other clusters of gay men. And the majority of gay men (60-80% most likely) are what we call 'bottoms'. They are after Hugh Jackman look-a-likes who will pound their rectums into oblivion, not children.

    They’re all pederasts though.

    Don’t make me bring out my Bryan Singer pictures again.

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  80. @George
    "Who immigrate purely for economic reasons"

    It appears the UK absolutely had to build a dam in Pakistan. An obstacle to dam construction was the local people, Mirpuris, needed to be relocated. It is not clear why a location in Pakistan was unavailable, but to keep the project going the Mirpuris were relocated to the UK. I am guessing the UK had some vacant housing and moving the Mirpuris to the UK was cheaper than building housing in Pakistan. Filling vacant housing in the UK with rent payers was probably part of the attraction of the plan. Mirpuris are the specific group linked to these sex scandals. I cannot find info on the ratio of Mirpuris to other groups in the UK.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangla_Dam

    Forum posts about Mirpuris

    "In Pakistan itself, the Mirpuris are known as 'janglee' type people. Very backward and crime-ridden. The situation is no different here in the UK. Pakistani Punjabis want nothing to do with them and are ashamed of their antics."

    Other posts mention cousin marriage. Janglee probably means Jungle.

    Mirpuris make up 90% of pakistani immigrants in the Uk if you ask most pakistanis they will say they are from mirpur. They are all related from north to south hence they have drug contacts and also prositutue under aged girls through their network (dont know if you herd about that). Look up tommy robinson edl on youtube and he highlights issues.

    http://sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/76020-pakistani-punjabis-or-mirpuris/

    >Janglee probably means Jungle.

    Janglee can mean:

    1. Wild

    2. Inhabitant of a forest.

    3. Uncivilized.

    In South Asian culture (my father’s), janglee people usually refers to tribes who were outside civilization and have only recently entered civilization.

    Yeah, if you wanted to bring migrants from South Asia, you couldn’t do worse than picking up Mirpuris.

    (On a side note, the word “thug” also comes from some robber tribes in India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee)

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    Interesting, there are plenty of very civilised Pakistanis so this behaviour needs explanation, and now we have one.

    Not received much coverage from the media.
    , @Dave from Oz
    > (On a side note, the word “thug” also comes from some robber tribes in India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee)

    Of all the great things the British did in India, one of the greatest was that they deliberately and systematically wiped out the thuggees.
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  81. @George
    "Who immigrate purely for economic reasons"

    It appears the UK absolutely had to build a dam in Pakistan. An obstacle to dam construction was the local people, Mirpuris, needed to be relocated. It is not clear why a location in Pakistan was unavailable, but to keep the project going the Mirpuris were relocated to the UK. I am guessing the UK had some vacant housing and moving the Mirpuris to the UK was cheaper than building housing in Pakistan. Filling vacant housing in the UK with rent payers was probably part of the attraction of the plan. Mirpuris are the specific group linked to these sex scandals. I cannot find info on the ratio of Mirpuris to other groups in the UK.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangla_Dam

    Forum posts about Mirpuris

    "In Pakistan itself, the Mirpuris are known as 'janglee' type people. Very backward and crime-ridden. The situation is no different here in the UK. Pakistani Punjabis want nothing to do with them and are ashamed of their antics."

    Other posts mention cousin marriage. Janglee probably means Jungle.

    Mirpuris make up 90% of pakistani immigrants in the Uk if you ask most pakistanis they will say they are from mirpur. They are all related from north to south hence they have drug contacts and also prositutue under aged girls through their network (dont know if you herd about that). Look up tommy robinson edl on youtube and he highlights issues.

    http://sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/76020-pakistani-punjabis-or-mirpuris/

    >An obstacle to dam construction was the local people, Mirpuris, needed to be relocated. It is not clear why a location in Pakistan was unavailable, but to keep the project going the Mirpuris were relocated to the UK.

    This is almost unbelievable. How could it be easier to relocate people from Pakistan to UK than within Pakistan?

    Sometimes I wonder, in a China led future in 2150, whether their historians will even believe these stories. Wouldn’t they consider these stories to be too crazy to be true?

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    , @James N. Kennett

    Sometimes I wonder, in a China led future in 2150, whether their historians will even believe these stories. Wouldn’t they consider these stories to be too crazy to be true?
     
    The Chinese right now must be wondering how nations that once ruled a large portion of the globe could become so stupid so quickly.
    , @George
    How could it be easier to relocate people from Pakistan to UK than within Pakistan?

    I think part of the answer is there was a crisis of vacant real estate in Europe. Third world immigrants solved the problem. If you owned a vacant building you would have had an intense interest in finding renters, any renters. In UK politics, local MPs were probably a source of political pressure to occupy the vacant buildings in their constituencies. Immigrants kept their constituencies from being eliminated altogether. The same thing happened with the Great Migration from the US South to Northern cities. It's hard to explain exactly why it was a good idea.
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  82. @J.Ross
    I see an elegant and historically normative explanation for how the feelings of one group of people could be more important than the bodies of another.

    Hurting feelings of a community within a multi-ethnic country can lead to riots. Group rights & feelings will come before individual rights & liberty in any multi-ethnic country in order to maintain social peace. (I am not a big fan of it but it seems to be a reality).

    Whites do not (or cannot) organize themselves as an ethnic group and prefer to be treated as individuals. Hence their individual rights are superseded by group rights of others.

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    Whites do not (or cannot) organize themselves as an ethnic group and prefer to be treated as individuals. Hence their individual rights are superseded by group rights of others.
     
    This isn't a characteristic of whites. It is a characteristic of whites who have 1) been propagandized by the depraved ethos of individualism from birth and 2) have no roots in any particular community. A certain kind of internet warrior talks as if the rootless cosmopolitanism of whites is some kind of ancient phenomenon. On the contrary, it is new.
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  83. @Tiny Duck
    Agreed

    Men of Color come from maternal societies that respect women and must learn misogyny from white men

    Plus those white firms wanted the D

    It is a racial issue all across western Europe. Indigenous whites are expendable. They are being bred, raped and intimidated out of existance to make way for a Brave New World inhabited by Alpha People of Colour.

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  84. @Bill P
    An important question is how many of the clients were white cops, politicians, barristers, judges etc. Probably more than a few when those numbers come up and it's been hidden for years.

    You can't just hide something this widespread without some collaboration on the part of the native officials. And that collaboration goes beyond simply avoiding "racism." In fact, this whole cultural sensitivity thing sounds like an excuse to me. Frankly, I'm really tired of seeing white scumbags get off the hook both here in the US and abroad.

    “And that collaboration goes beyond simply avoiding “racism.””

    No, it’s not wanting to have your career trashed (and your colleagues cold shoulder you) via accusations of racism. This starts at the top, mind – after Rotherham and Rochdale you would have expected police and social services nationwide to have checked for similar patterns of abuse – but that would be ‘racial profiling’.

    Alas pretty much everywhere ‘the community’ is found, it’s happening. It’s happening in places like Banbury, where fine ladies are pretty rare these days. This case was dropped due to ‘insufficient evidence’.

    https://www.banburyguardian.co.uk/news/crime/banbury-men-among-18-acquitted-over-child-sexual-exploitation-probe-1-8354182

    And while our MPs are often wholly owned subsidiaries, most of them won’t be going for the sort of girls who are targets.

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  85. @Pericles
    Pinch Sulzberger, what a great guy.

    The Guardian front page: "New Zealand: Jacinda Ardern's Labour rocked by youth camp sexual assault allegations" "Sexual violence: UK criticised for failing to give to fund for survivors of UN sexual abuse" "The long read: How the most vulnerable workers are targeted for sexual abuse"

    NO MENTION OF TELFORD.

    M-m-muh N-n-narrative ... M-m-muh Victorian trust fund ... M-muh qua-quality journalism ... M-muh sexy muslims ... N-n-narrative ... you must see ... look, be reasonable ... M-muh well meaning ...
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    "How did you manage to miss this?"

    Go to the Guardian mobile site, UK news section - it's not there, or wasn't an hour or two ago.
    , @Pericles

    How did you manage to miss this?

     

    How? I searched the Guardian home page for Telford, I also eyeballed it in disbelief, I found nothing.

    I see that the Guardian has now ascertained that the perpetrators were "seven men". Jolly good job, chaps.

    , @Anonymous
    Because it's not on the Guardian's UK front page, but these are?

    Sadiq Khan reads out racist tweets in call for tighter tech regulation

    Home Office keeping torture victims in detention, inspectors report

    London Central mosque given Grade II* listed status

    Discrimination against migrants in the NHS will make staffing problems worse
     

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  86. @Anonymous
    In more recent times Telford - though it's of ancient provenance - was designated as a post war 'New Town', ie, it was largely built up from scratch in the 1960s, in order to absorb the 'overspill' population of demolished slums in the west Midlands. As such, it was highly modern and futuristic for a British town. The mystery is why were immigrants housed in a new town specifically built to house disadvantaged Brits?

    “though it’s of ancient provenance”

    There was no place called ‘Telford’ before the 1960s. There was a small town called Wellington.

    The new town was named after this guy, another of the great Scottish engineers, designer of many bridges still in daily use nearly 200 years later.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Telford

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    Okay, so Telford was a guy, not a town. The new town is named after the old guy.

    It's a pretty good name for an English town, sounding both traditional and high tech, probably like the bridge engineer himself had been back in his day.

    , @Anonymous
    There was a Telford Hotel somewhere in Florida that was a big resort in the early 1900s that had several presidents of the early 1900s stay there. It survived in somewhat dilapidated form until the late 1900s, at which time it was bought by a guy named Chuck Harder, who ran a syndicated radio show that was a sort of precursor to Fart Smell's Coast-to-Coast AM. Harder, a neopopulist who endorsed all sorts of whacky theories, (we called him " Harder-Than-Your-Husband" after the Zappa song) had a fair bit of popularity in the late 1980s as I recall.
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  87. @Anonymous
    OT

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/02/24/irish-mass-migration/

    The Irish government has been slammed for paying journalists to write good news stories about Project Ireland 2040.

    Unveiled by the government last week with a commitment to spend €116 billion, the document outlines plans to boost the Irish nation’s 4.7 million population by another million using mass migration.

    The government’s strategic communications unit paid for sponsored “news pieces” to appear in national and regional newspapers promoting Ireland 2040, which “could not include negative or critical content”, The Times reported on Friday.
     

    Will the Irish nationalists oppose this, or are they merely opposed to British Protestants in Ireland?

    There are tens of millions of people around the world descended from the Irish. Why not recruit them?

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    Ireland has an African gang problem. They appear to have been involved in the recent looting following a few days of bad weather. Here's a video on the subject (by an Ulster Protestant!): Ireland unsafe for the Irish
    , @James N. Kennett
    The Project 2040 scheme - mass immigration amounting to 20% of Ireland's population - is crazy. The damage that the same process has done to other European countries is plain to see.

    Ireland had a long struggle for independence from Britain. Now its politicians want to achieve independence from Ireland.
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  88. @Fredrik
    What do you think upset the people of Telford the most? This story or the Polish plumber down the street?

    It's the latter. By far.

    The idea that the British are burning to exterminate all non-British whites, but that none of that violent xenophobia ever manages to spill over to non-whites, is a laughable project of MIsomething in impotent initial reaction to Brexit.

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    Sorry, but the Rotherham and Telford reactions can only be explained this way. Brits really don't see the problem with the Paki gangs
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  89. @Jack D
    When the first priest abuse story in Boston came out, people said, "Oh that Father Geoghan was awful but thank God it was an isolated incident and he was the only one." But then Boston Globe Spotlight reporters consulted an expert who said that based on historic data, x% (I think it might have been 4%) of priests were child abusers. The Globe people found out how many priests there were in Boston and multiplied and they came up with a number (in the hundreds) and after they were done investigating that number turned out to be almost exactly right.

    I suspect the same thing is true in England - Rotherham will turn out not to be unusual but entirely typical so that every single English community with a Pakistani population (which means almost every single English community) will have similar offenders at a similar rate as in Rotherham.

    The neat thing is — and this is a feature, not a bug — a large number of fatherless, mixed-race babies will be born. Each and every one of them filled with rage against white people. O brave new world..

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  90. @YetAnotherAnon
    "though it’s of ancient provenance"

    There was no place called 'Telford' before the 1960s. There was a small town called Wellington.

    The new town was named after this guy, another of the great Scottish engineers, designer of many bridges still in daily use nearly 200 years later.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Telford

    Okay, so Telford was a guy, not a town. The new town is named after the old guy.

    It’s a pretty good name for an English town, sounding both traditional and high tech, probably like the bridge engineer himself had been back in his day.

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  91. @rogue-one
    >An obstacle to dam construction was the local people, Mirpuris, needed to be relocated. It is not clear why a location in Pakistan was unavailable, but to keep the project going the Mirpuris were relocated to the UK.

    This is almost unbelievable. How could it be easier to relocate people from Pakistan to UK than within Pakistan?

    Sometimes I wonder, in a China led future in 2150, whether their historians will even believe these stories. Wouldn't they consider these stories to be too crazy to be true?

    It like Somalis must be relocated to Minneapolis because Africa is too tiny to accommodate them.

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    Yep.

    And never mind the climactic difference, probably the most extreme possible in the inhabited globe.
    , @Abe

    It’s like Somalis must be relocated to Minneapolis because Africa is too tiny to accommodate them.
     
    No, just too cold in the winter.
    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    Saviors gotta save, and it's just so much more convenient to keep the recipients of your grace close at hand.
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  92. The safe bet is that this is pretty much of a nationwide disgrace due to Diversity Worship.

    Come on: it’s a small price to pay for helping the Community feel safer by atomizing the country the blessings of ethnic and religious enrichment.

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  93. @rogue-one
    >Janglee probably means Jungle.

    Janglee can mean:

    1. Wild

    2. Inhabitant of a forest.

    3. Uncivilized.

    In South Asian culture (my father's), janglee people usually refers to tribes who were outside civilization and have only recently entered civilization.

    Yeah, if you wanted to bring migrants from South Asia, you couldn't do worse than picking up Mirpuris.


    (On a side note, the word "thug" also comes from some robber tribes in India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee)

    Interesting, there are plenty of very civilised Pakistanis so this behaviour needs explanation, and now we have one.

    Not received much coverage from the media.

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  94. @jim jones
    How did you manage to miss this?:

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/mar/12/1000-children-victims-worst-uk-abuse-ring-telford

    “How did you manage to miss this?”

    Go to the Guardian mobile site, UK news section – it’s not there, or wasn’t an hour or two ago.

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    I just Googled for "guardian telford"
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  95. @Tiny Duck
    Agreed

    Men of Color come from maternal societies that respect women and must learn misogyny from white men

    Plus those white firms wanted the D

    This comment has to be Peak Duck. Ted Kennedy treated women like so much used toilet paper, and even he wasn’t as much a misogynist as the average black guy.

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  96. @TomSchmidt
    Yes, exactly. A very small percentage of priests, but 67% of bishops shuffled around these abusers, and largely because they didn't have enough priests to replace them (one hopes. They thought that they didn't care about the damage at all is too horrible to contemplate). That's institutional rot. The same thing at the heart of Rotherham and Telford.

    Take away a few pensions for dereliction of duty and it might prevent cops from doing it. I don't know how you otherwise incent bishops.

    It wasn’t institutional rot. It was the bishops ineptly trying to formulate a policy to avoid any scrutiny
    of something that had been going on, unquestioned by the laity, for centuries.

    People would always ask, knowing I was a 12-year Catholic schoolboy and an altar boy, if anything untoward ever happened. I would always truthfully answer that my parish priests were drunks, not pedos. With names like Murphy, Crowley, Walsh and Sullivan, wouldn’t it stand to reason?

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  97. The article is of course written in an extraordinarily discreet fashion, so if you didn’t know that certain immigrant groups had a propensity to do these things, you certainly won’t be any better informed after reading the article.

    No mention of Pakistanis, the only mention of “Asian” is remarkably obtuse:

    It is also claimed that abused and trafficked children were considered “prostitutes” by council staff, that authorities did not keep details of abusers from Asian communities for fear of being accused of “racism” and that police failed to investigate one recent case five times until an MP intervened.

    I had my wife read the article, she doesn’t follow UK news, and then asked her who she thought the perpetrators were. She had no idea, she assumed that it must all have taken place in a school or orphanage and it never occurred to her that the perpetrators weren’t “English”.

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    I think it's pretty widely accepted that "Asians" when used in the media reports of crime in the UK refers to Pakis Or Indian Muslims . Just like "youths" or "teens" are used in the US media to avoid calling a spade a spade . Not even the most dedicated Prog can suppress that nanosecond of reality before their conditioning takes over .
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  98. @wren
    https://www.twitter.com/FBISanDiego/status/971971305187639296

    Mexicans, and Mexican ccartels.

    They are sending their best (product).

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  99. @Tiny Duck
    Agreed

    Men of Color come from maternal societies that respect women and must learn misogyny from white men

    Plus those white firms wanted the D

    They come from maternal societies because their paters are missing.

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  100. Whites need to quit worrying about white women and girls being raped by Muslims. White females see concern over the issue as a sign of Islamophobia. You can see that in their voting patterns, how young white women are the first to defend Muslims online regarding rape and and acid attacks and the way white women lead efforts to import Muslims into Europe and cover up the rapes. The only time most European women are against rape is when a white man, real or imagined, was the rapist. As Lilly Allen stated, the report of a million UK girls being raped by Muslims is no big deal because white men would have raped them anyway. Preventing the rape of White women by Muslims is seen by most white females as a hate crime. White women are willing to destroy your life if you try and reduce Muslim rape.

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    So what? The fact that women will follow whomever is in charge and will believe the ruling ideology is just a fact about the world. Directing your anger at women is stupid and counterproductive. It's not a fault to be a woman.
    , @Rosie
    Care to back any of that up with some evidence? (Pictures of a few girls with "refugees welcome" signs are not evidence BTW.)
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  101. Meanwhile, there’s a new show on Netflix called Collateral about an innocent Muslim man murdered by a blonde Englishwoman working for the Deep State.
    I remember joking with someone on another forum that if the BBC ever made a show about Rotthertham, the grooming gangs would be pro-Brexit campaigners, the victims would be hijab wearing refugees, and the whole thing would be taken down by a heroic cop played by Idris Elba.

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  102. @istevefan

    And who were the customers?
     
    If it was anything like Rotherham the customers were fellow Pakistanis such as uncles, cousins and brothers. From what I heard single muslim men can't have sex with muslim girls until they marry them since muslim girls are as pure as the driven snow. Therefore these guys need a way to satisfy their urges prior to marriage, and infidel white girls fit the bill.

    The girls are plied with drugs and then passed around from brother to uncle to cousin. I could be wrong about Telford, but that is the way I've heard people explain how it happened in Rotherham.

    “Fellow Pakistanis such as uncles, cousins, and brothers.” Given how inbred they are, isn’t that redundant?

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  103. @Steve Sailer
    It like Somalis must be relocated to Minneapolis because Africa is too tiny to accommodate them.

    Yep.

    And never mind the climactic difference, probably the most extreme possible in the inhabited globe.

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    And never mind the climactic difference, probably the most extreme possible in the inhabited globe.
     
    They climax differently? How exactly?
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  104. @Steve Sailer
    It like Somalis must be relocated to Minneapolis because Africa is too tiny to accommodate them.

    It’s like Somalis must be relocated to Minneapolis because Africa is too tiny to accommodate them.

    No, just too cold in the winter.

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  105. @Jack D
    It seems to me that priests were particularly bad because they were not permitted to have normal (or at least normal for homosexuals) sex lives. But I gather that statistically the rate for priests was probably not much worse than other groups - they just got a lot more publicity.

    The real offenses of the Church were in these areas:

    1. They encouraged (or at least looked the other way) young gay men to become priests because they were having a hard time finding non-gay men to do this job. A lot of well meaning young Catholic gay men thought that celibacy was better than sin so they chose the priesthood but once in it they found that they could not keep their vows.

    2. When abusive priests were discovered, they covered up the abuse and shuffled the abusive priests to other postings, repeatedly - that was biggest crime. Part of that was the "therapeutic" climate of the time - the idea that you could just get these guys some therapy and they would be "fixed" and could resume their jobs.

    2. When abusive priests were discovered, they covered up the abuse and shuffled the abusive priests to other postings, repeatedly – that was biggest crime. Part of that was the “therapeutic” climate of the time – the idea that you could just get these guys some therapy and they would be “fixed” and could resume their jobs.

    Well said Jack.

    Your #2 is the heart of the issue. Forgiveness of sin is an issue that belongs to the victims and ultimately to God. But it is not some sort of blank check. It comes only with both acknowledgement, repentance and penance. A proper course here would have been these scumbags acknowledging their sin to their victims, and facing the legal consequences of their actions, then if still in the priesthood being packed off to monastery for some sackcloth and ashes, prayer and reflection. Certainly no further contact with youth should have been possible.

    Forgiveness is not supposed to be excuse making and–much worse–enabling–which is what the Church did. What the Church did was in line with 60s, 70s happy talk “theraputic” doctrine, not in line with Catholic doctrine.

    ~
    I will say on #1, the millions of Catholic clergy down through the ages have been celibate–no doubt a decent chunk of them chosing such a life because they were homosexual and not attracted to marriage. In fact a lot of non-clergy down through the ages have been celibate. This idea that everyone needs to be humping 24-7-365 and if you’re not you’ll just explode is a thoroughly modern one. Plenty of people waited for marriage. And plenty of people never found marriages, or lost their spouse, or otherwise did not have sexual relations for long periods of time … and were still alive. While certainly not for me–i had definite interest in the priesthood as a kid and adolescent, but also a lot of intense interest in girls and i wised up–a life of celibacy and devotion the religious vocation, while not normal, is entirely within the capability of a lot of people. While there have no doubt been many abusers, there have been many–i would guess most–homosexual priests who kept their vows and performed admirably down through the ages.

    However, i think the sexed up culture–plus the normalization of Catholicism in America and modernity and decline in religious belief–did make finding normal priests more difficult. And this enlarged percentage of homosexuals created within the hierarchy homosexual cliques and sympathizers, who then distorted Christian ideas of forgiveness into allowing the homosexual predators to run wild without comeuppance.

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    Really good comment. I remember asking, rhetorically, what would happen should I confess to murder in the confessional.
    The priest replied that the sanctity of the confessional would of course be observed, but that part of the penance would be turning oneself into the proper authorities. Without completing the penance, no absolution would be forthcoming.
    Apparently they didn’t hold their fellow priests to the same standard. Kind of like cops and DUI laws.
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  106. You can extrapolate from the 1000 victims in Telford. I know the area – my username is misspelled.

    There are 2500 Pakistani-origin males in Telford, perhaps 1500 adult males? So there is also an almost one-to-one relation between adult Pakistani-origin adult males and white girl victims.

    According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Pakistanis#Demographics

    … there are 1.2 million Pakistanis in the UK (2011 figure). Probably closer to 1.5 million now. If 500,000 of them are adult males, then there could be the same amount of white victims.

    None of this is newsworthy for the BBC.

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  107. @Malcolm X-Lax
    Trump needs to comment on this. Otherwise the US media will ignore it. I was a little disappointed Tucker didn't cover it this evening.

    Trump needs to comment on this. Otherwise the US media will ignore it. I was a little disappointed Tucker didn’t cover it this evening.

    Trump’s “the nationalist we’ve got”, so he has my support. (Imagine the hideousness of another president who has the enthusiastic support of someone like Robert Kagan.)

    But man is he frustrating. He’s President and as such has a lot of power to drive issues into public consciousness and clarify–the insanity of–what’s going on. Unfornately this requires clarity of thought and clarity of purpose that Trump simply does not have.

    ~~

    These muzzies groom, abuse, rape and pimp out adolescent white girls are absolutely spot in elucidating the core issues around diversity:
    – tribalism
    – deep differences ethnic “diversity”–differences in cultural isn’t just “restaurants!”
    – impossibility of “multicultralism” in any sort of integrated society–a society must have one set of mores, one standard, one law
    – the primitivism–by white Western standards–of many “diverse” peoples
    – the inevitable conflict generated by diversity
    – the sheer evil of the “racism!” charge.

    Basically these cases take the progressives’ “diversity is our strength” lie out into the bright sunshine and shows it to be the ridiculous, disgusting, destructive lie that it is.

    And it does this in a form–abuse of girls–that is very hard for “progressives” to dismiss without looking like the complete duplicitous scumbags that they are.

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    I agree. One of Trump's greatest strengths is that he doesn't particularly mind being called racist. The usual suspects already aren't going to vote for him, but there are still millions of people--e.g. stupid white women who get their news from sources like The View--for whom the words Rotherham and Telford mean nothing. There are really only two sources to get this news out there--Fox News (and Tucker specifically, because he really does seem to be the only person at Fox who truly understands the grave reality of the situation and what's at stake) and Trump himself. The media can ignore Tucker/Fox but they won't be able to resist a new opportunity to call Trump a racist. The issue however of Pakistani rape gangs victimizing little white girls is a tough one for the media. On one hand, they can't resist an opportunity to accuse Trump of racism; but on the other, do they really want to draw any attention to this particular issue?
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  108. @YetAnotherAnon
    "How did you manage to miss this?"

    Go to the Guardian mobile site, UK news section - it's not there, or wasn't an hour or two ago.

    I just Googled for “guardian telford”

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    Yes, but the point is that you knew what to look for.

    The average Guardianista will open the site and it's not there, even in UK News. So they'll never know about it.
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  109. @Buffalo Joe
    Time to bring back the gallows.

    Time to bring back the gallows.

    Time to bring back England.

    The critical function of modern “Western” governments is to keep white men from behaving normally to protect their families, communities, culture, race and nation.

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    The critical function of modern “Western” governments is to keep white men from behaving normally to protect their families, communities, culture, race and nation.

    That's a keeper.
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  110. @rogue-one
    Hurting feelings of a community within a multi-ethnic country can lead to riots. Group rights & feelings will come before individual rights & liberty in any multi-ethnic country in order to maintain social peace. (I am not a big fan of it but it seems to be a reality).

    Whites do not (or cannot) organize themselves as an ethnic group and prefer to be treated as individuals. Hence their individual rights are superseded by group rights of others.

    Whites do not (or cannot) organize themselves as an ethnic group and prefer to be treated as individuals. Hence their individual rights are superseded by group rights of others.

    This isn’t a characteristic of whites. It is a characteristic of whites who have 1) been propagandized by the depraved ethos of individualism from birth and 2) have no roots in any particular community. A certain kind of internet warrior talks as if the rootless cosmopolitanism of whites is some kind of ancient phenomenon. On the contrary, it is new.

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  111. @TheBoom
    Whites need to quit worrying about white women and girls being raped by Muslims. White females see concern over the issue as a sign of Islamophobia. You can see that in their voting patterns, how young white women are the first to defend Muslims online regarding rape and and acid attacks and the way white women lead efforts to import Muslims into Europe and cover up the rapes. The only time most European women are against rape is when a white man, real or imagined, was the rapist. As Lilly Allen stated, the report of a million UK girls being raped by Muslims is no big deal because white men would have raped them anyway. Preventing the rape of White women by Muslims is seen by most white females as a hate crime. White women are willing to destroy your life if you try and reduce Muslim rape.

    So what? The fact that women will follow whomever is in charge and will believe the ruling ideology is just a fact about the world. Directing your anger at women is stupid and counterproductive. It’s not a fault to be a woman.

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    You must have a very low opinion of women if you think they're not responsible for their words, actions, voting patterns, or political views. You're basically saying women are equivalent to animals or children in terms of moral agency.
    , @Whiskey
    He's onto something. If women are not dominated by White men they will choose other men to dominate them and will defend them.

    The only way out is ruthless domination at all levels. Fear not live as Machiavelli advised. Stop pedestalizing women and treat them as the strategic objective they are.

    Women are the schwepunkt the decisive hinge of battle. Control them control society. We need a nation if feared men not high iq
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  112. @jim jones
    How did you manage to miss this?:

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/mar/12/1000-children-victims-worst-uk-abuse-ring-telford

    How did you manage to miss this?

    How? I searched the Guardian home page for Telford, I also eyeballed it in disbelief, I found nothing.

    I see that the Guardian has now ascertained that the perpetrators were “seven men”. Jolly good job, chaps.

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    I see that the Guardian has now ascertained that the perpetrators were “seven men”. Jolly good job, chaps.
     
    I suppose some crack police constable told them that. The British establishment have come to actually embody Peter Cooks' obtuse policeman from Beyond the Fringe: "We're not certain who committed this robbery, but we believe it to be the work of thieves."
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  113. @Anon
    Well, at least those could be seen as crimes against whites.

    But what happens when whites welcome invasion and humiliation?

    In the pic below, that is a British cop, that is a Anglo(now Junglo)-Saxon woman, and the onlookers love the New Britain.

    If any one pic captured the future of UK. At least whites still know that what Muslim gangs did wrong. But they see nothing wrong with Afro-conquest-of-white-women. White women go that way, and the cuck-faced dorks cheer on. They don't defend Britain but join Antifa to beat up whites who don't want Junglization. Enoch Powell was wrong. Rivers of Blood is not the future of UK. It's the Rivers of Semen. UK survived Dunkirk but they won't survive Dong-Kong.

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TlRlPvbfjSo/WqcoRHYr8FI/AAAAAAAAAs0/PdNakCQsrCcg0cOvJ3LY2HdaDUAUMs7UwCLcBGAs/s1600/future%2Bof%2BUK%2Bin%2Bone%2Bpic.gif

    Bad times for the West when this sort of street performance is greeted in such a manner. I’m pretty sure 50 back this performance would not have been greeted the same way and in fact would have been quickly “stopped” by English men.

    Check out the black guy–actually pushed to the front of the crowd with his kid to see this and bounce up and down.

    If white men think they can be all multicultural and still have civilization … they are deeply mistaken.

    ~~

    Again–separation. We must make clear we have a fundamental right as whites\Westerners\civilized people, to live in our civilization. Whites who want to live in their multiculti globotopia (i.e. slum) are welcome to do so. But whites who wish to live in Western civilization have the right and must have the opportunity to do so. We are not the globalists slaves.

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  114. @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    Only a very, very small percentage of gay men are pedos. They self-segregate in professions like priesthood because it gives them easy access to kids. As a result you see it a lot less among other clusters of gay men. And the majority of gay men (60-80% most likely) are what we call 'bottoms'. They are after Hugh Jackman look-a-likes who will pound their rectums into oblivion, not children.

    They generally were not what I’d call pedophiles. It wasn’t, with some exceptions, prepubescent boys they were going after. This canard about gays not being pedos is always thrown out there to distract from that fact.
    The lavender mafia has effectively destroyed the Catholic Church in the US and Europe. I say that with a great deal of sadness.
    Expect married priests before the current “pope” is finished, followed soon after by married gay priests.

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    During out conversion classes, the priests calmly explained, volunteered, should say, that ever since the '70's, roughly about 45% of the total number of priests in the US have been gay. They quoted from a former priest now psychologist who made the survey and collected information over a few decades.

    When in a hole, best to stop digging.

    "Expect married priests before the current “pope” is finished, followed soon after by married gay priests."

    Who but a Roman Catholic would equate married priests with gay married priests? In other words, while technically its not a mortal (or even a venial) sin for priests to marry (certain Catholic rites, e.g. Byzantine, permit priests to marry), in the Catholic mind the idea that priests should dare to participate in the sacrament of marriage or holy matrimony, is an abomination.

    And this isn't a new thing. Sir Thomas More went apesh*! over Martin Luther daring to leave the monastery to get married.

    It's okay for clergymen to have prostitutes, participate in orgies, even frequent the gay scene, etc. but to actually participate in marriage? Horrors!

    FACT: For the first thousand yrs of its history, the Catholic Church permitted their priests to marry. Even today, it isn't a dogma that they cannot get married and the Pope could as stated, could issue a decree rescinding the discipline and permit priests to marry.

    That would certainly help to go a long way to increasing the number of priests in the US and rest of the Western World.

    Or the alternative is to import more and more priests from Africa, India, South America.

    Why not just let priests get married? What is the hangup vs. Holy Matrimony for clergymen (when for over a thousand yrs the Church permitted it).
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  115. @wren
    He also ought to congratulate the hard working and probably non-corrupt FBI field agents who made that huge drug bust in San Diego.

    That amount of drugs had the potential to kill millions. Of course, it probably wouldn't kill millions, just destroy their lives.

    https://www.twitter.com/FBISanDiego/status/971878549513699329

    Fentanyl is really bad news–it has sent Emergency Room staff, cops, and police dogs to the hospital.

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  116. @eah
    due to Diversity Worship

    The BBC is really corrupt -- I had to use the search box on the BBC news web site to find a story about this, which was otherwise well hidden.

    A de-industrialization comparable to the 'Rust Belt' combined with a 'benefits' culture has produced a British underclass that is deeply despised by the ruling elite, the same ruling elite who presided over the de-industrialization and via a socialist consensus introduced the 'benefits' culture in the first place -- add to that an active tabloid press that sensationalizes the worst examples of the underclass -- these sexually brutalized girls came from the despised white underclass.

    https://twitter.com/AlfredAlbion/status/973045349056212995

    It’s difficult to imagine a modern day Nevil Shute writing The Trustee From the Toolroom.
    I don’t know much about the UK, but the inner city welfare class whites in Ireland are pretty far gone.

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    I was not familiar with Shute's 'The Trustee from the Toolroom' -- of course many people have read 'On the Beach' (including me) -- so thanks for the reference.
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  117. @istevefan

    And who were the customers?
     
    If it was anything like Rotherham the customers were fellow Pakistanis such as uncles, cousins and brothers. From what I heard single muslim men can't have sex with muslim girls until they marry them since muslim girls are as pure as the driven snow. Therefore these guys need a way to satisfy their urges prior to marriage, and infidel white girls fit the bill.

    The girls are plied with drugs and then passed around from brother to uncle to cousin. I could be wrong about Telford, but that is the way I've heard people explain how it happened in Rotherham.

    The girls are plied with drugs and then passed around from brother to uncle to cousin.

    They do the same thing in America with gas stations (financed by the SBA).

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  118. @AnotherDad


    2. When abusive priests were discovered, they covered up the abuse and shuffled the abusive priests to other postings, repeatedly – that was biggest crime. Part of that was the “therapeutic” climate of the time – the idea that you could just get these guys some therapy and they would be “fixed” and could resume their jobs.
     
    Well said Jack.

    Your #2 is the heart of the issue. Forgiveness of sin is an issue that belongs to the victims and ultimately to God. But it is not some sort of blank check. It comes only with both acknowledgement, repentance and penance. A proper course here would have been these scumbags acknowledging their sin to their victims, and facing the legal consequences of their actions, then if still in the priesthood being packed off to monastery for some sackcloth and ashes, prayer and reflection. Certainly no further contact with youth should have been possible.

    Forgiveness is not supposed to be excuse making and--much worse--enabling--which is what the Church did. What the Church did was in line with 60s, 70s happy talk "theraputic" doctrine, not in line with Catholic doctrine.

    ~
    I will say on #1, the millions of Catholic clergy down through the ages have been celibate--no doubt a decent chunk of them chosing such a life because they were homosexual and not attracted to marriage. In fact a lot of non-clergy down through the ages have been celibate. This idea that everyone needs to be humping 24-7-365 and if you're not you'll just explode is a thoroughly modern one. Plenty of people waited for marriage. And plenty of people never found marriages, or lost their spouse, or otherwise did not have sexual relations for long periods of time ... and were still alive. While certainly not for me--i had definite interest in the priesthood as a kid and adolescent, but also a lot of intense interest in girls and i wised up--a life of celibacy and devotion the religious vocation, while not normal, is entirely within the capability of a lot of people. While there have no doubt been many abusers, there have been many--i would guess most--homosexual priests who kept their vows and performed admirably down through the ages.

    However, i think the sexed up culture--plus the normalization of Catholicism in America and modernity and decline in religious belief--did make finding normal priests more difficult. And this enlarged percentage of homosexuals created within the hierarchy homosexual cliques and sympathizers, who then distorted Christian ideas of forgiveness into allowing the homosexual predators to run wild without comeuppance.

    Really good comment. I remember asking, rhetorically, what would happen should I confess to murder in the confessional.
    The priest replied that the sanctity of the confessional would of course be observed, but that part of the penance would be turning oneself into the proper authorities. Without completing the penance, no absolution would be forthcoming.
    Apparently they didn’t hold their fellow priests to the same standard. Kind of like cops and DUI laws.

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  119. @Pericles

    How did you manage to miss this?

     

    How? I searched the Guardian home page for Telford, I also eyeballed it in disbelief, I found nothing.

    I see that the Guardian has now ascertained that the perpetrators were "seven men". Jolly good job, chaps.

    I see that the Guardian has now ascertained that the perpetrators were “seven men”. Jolly good job, chaps.

    I suppose some crack police constable told them that. The British establishment have come to actually embody Peter Cooks’ obtuse policeman from Beyond the Fringe: “We’re not certain who committed this robbery, but we believe it to be the work of thieves.”

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  120. @JMcG
    It’s difficult to imagine a modern day Nevil Shute writing The Trustee From the Toolroom.
    I don’t know much about the UK, but the inner city welfare class whites in Ireland are pretty far gone.

    I was not familiar with Shute’s ‘The Trustee from the Toolroom’ — of course many people have read ‘On the Beach’ (including me) — so thanks for the reference.

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  121. The ruling class of England is directly responsible for the MUSLIM RAPE GANGS that have killed, raped and brutalized young ladies in England for decades. The evil ruling class of England has used the mass importation of non-Europeans and other foreigners as a weapon to crush the chance that the English patriots of modest means could fight back against globalization and financialization.

    The Bank of England has conducted monetary policy in a way that rewards the evil English ruling class and makes globalization and financialization possible. The importation of Muslims and other non-Europeans was designed to break down cultural cohesion amongst the ordinary people of England so the ruling class money-grubbers could concentrate wealth and power.

    The evil English ruling class is selling the regular people of England a fake story of their country so that the ruling class can steal the real nation.

    The City of London financial district has turned itself into one of the largest money laundering sites in the world. The evil English ruling class has benefited from the foreignization effects of the City of London and the Bank of England.

    The evil ruling class of England is just as vile as the evil ruling class of the American Empire.

    English patriots and American patriots must topple their ruling classes. Brexit and Trump are just the beginning.

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  123. As horrible as it was , I don’t think an elderly priest drunkenly fondling a teenage boy is the same as thousands of preteen girls being repeatedly gang raped and basically sold into sexual slavery by Pakistani invaders while the whole country looks the other way out of the mere fear of being called the dastardly r-word.

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  124. In Rotherham, the reaction from the Pakistani community was that the English girls deserved it for being so promiscuous. The Pakistani women said that the littles strumpets seduced their men. Zero empathy or remorse. The accused remain smug & defiant to this day.

    Miss Markle visited the illegal aliens from Grenfell but nary a sympathetic word for pretty white girls.

    I don’t see how the Englisj people can get out of this. No one in power has their back and truthfully their women are promiscuous. Single moms of these poor girls have a lot of blame for kicking dad out so they could party.

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    Why, you're absolutely right, the British underclass is renowned for its loving, reliable, fiercely protective, teetotaler fathers, effectively thwarted in carrying out their fatherly duties through the perfidious machinations of their party-loving babymamas.
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  125. It’s not just Telford; it’s many other parts of England.

    It’s not just Labour; the Tories are responsible, too.

    MUSLIM RAPE GANGS have been killing, raping and brutalizing English young ladies for decades.

    The ruling class of England has used the importation of foreigners as a weapon to destroy cultural cohesion in England.

    The ruling class of England wants to demographically deconstruct England so as to make it a deracinated zone suitable for plutocrat plundering.

    There is no FREE SPEECH in England.

    The ruling class of the American Empire is just as evil as the ruling class of England.

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    >The ruling class of England wants to demographically deconstruct England so as to make it a deracinated zone suitable for plutocrat plundering.


    How would transforming England into Pakistan or South Africa is better for elites? Would they be comfortably shielded from Pakistani or African demagogues? I assume they can send their kids to better schools but wouldn't their children be victims of assault on the tube or on streets? Wouldn't a lack of social trust destroy all that which makes life pleasant, both for masses and for elites? Wouldn't some Zuma take away their wealth?

    Rather, I think the elites have their heads up their asses. To confront the problem, they must admit that their policies for last 30 years were wrong. And they don't want to do that.

    There is no inner party, just a bunch of careerist morons.

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    a bigger public discussion

    Isn't it past the point for a "discussion"? -- try public hangings -- first hang the rapists/abusers, then those in officialdom who allowed it to go on -- since it's clear it was allowed to go on.

    Anger as members of Rochdale grooming gang get legal aid to fight deportation... after already receiving £1m to unsuccessfully defend their criminal charges

    Followed by anyone involved in the above.
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    >like a pressure cooker
    This deplorable racist never misses a chance to mock the vibrant traditions of Islam!
    , @eah
    https://twitter.com/AlfredAlbion/status/973655313126756353
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  128. According to UK Twitter, this is the most important political issue facing the UK today:

    https://twitter.com/i/moments/973525290692509696

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  129. @Tiny Duck
    Agreed

    Men of Color come from maternal societies that respect women and must learn misogyny from white men

    Plus those white firms wanted the D

    Ohs Tony’s….we all be knowin who be wantin the “D” here.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/trentdenton1

    Lenders “gibben tiny Trent teh bid “D” fo yearz” Pittsnocchio

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  131. Telford lies just south east of Liverpool. I think the Beatles played there before they became world famous. Supposedly the fish and chips weren’t up to par compared to Liverpool. Or something along those lines.

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  132. anon • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Håven Mønähan on the radar again:

    Rochester man shot dead near his home in possible robbery; 3 [blonde-haired blue-eyed thugs] jailed

    Minneapolis Star Tribune / Paul Walsh

    Tuesday, March 13, 2018 | 7:32 AM

    A man was fatally shot and found dead on a sidewalk near his Rochester home, and police suspect the man may have been targeted for robbery.

    Three men, ages 23 to 25 and all from Rochester, were arrested in connection with the killing Monday night.

    “Robbery is being explored as a possible motive,” Capt. John Sherwin said early Tuesday. “The exact circumstances preceding this incident remain unknown. However, there does not appear to be a prior connection or relationship between the victim and suspects.”

    Police were alerted to shots being fired and a man down on the sidewalk in the 2800 block of Charles Court NW. shortly before 9 p.m., Sherwin said.

    Officers saw that Ahmed Muafaq Abdulhu Al Naddf, 40, was shot in the chest and had no pulse and was not breathing, according to Sherwin.

    Emergency responders began lifesaving efforts and declared him dead about 15 minutes later.

    Sherwin said surveillance video in the area led officers to an apartment in that same block, and the suspects were soon located and jailed on suspicion of second-degree murder. The Star Tribune generally does not name suspects before they are charged.

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  133. @JMcG
    They generally were not what I’d call pedophiles. It wasn’t, with some exceptions, prepubescent boys they were going after. This canard about gays not being pedos is always thrown out there to distract from that fact.
    The lavender mafia has effectively destroyed the Catholic Church in the US and Europe. I say that with a great deal of sadness.
    Expect married priests before the current “pope” is finished, followed soon after by married gay priests.

    During out conversion classes, the priests calmly explained, volunteered, should say, that ever since the ’70′s, roughly about 45% of the total number of priests in the US have been gay. They quoted from a former priest now psychologist who made the survey and collected information over a few decades.

    When in a hole, best to stop digging.

    “Expect married priests before the current “pope” is finished, followed soon after by married gay priests.”

    Who but a Roman Catholic would equate married priests with gay married priests? In other words, while technically its not a mortal (or even a venial) sin for priests to marry (certain Catholic rites, e.g. Byzantine, permit priests to marry), in the Catholic mind the idea that priests should dare to participate in the sacrament of marriage or holy matrimony, is an abomination.

    And this isn’t a new thing. Sir Thomas More went apesh*! over Martin Luther daring to leave the monastery to get married.

    It’s okay for clergymen to have prostitutes, participate in orgies, even frequent the gay scene, etc. but to actually participate in marriage? Horrors!

    FACT: For the first thousand yrs of its history, the Catholic Church permitted their priests to marry. Even today, it isn’t a dogma that they cannot get married and the Pope could as stated, could issue a decree rescinding the discipline and permit priests to marry.

    That would certainly help to go a long way to increasing the number of priests in the US and rest of the Western World.

    Or the alternative is to import more and more priests from Africa, India, South America.

    Why not just let priests get married? What is the hangup vs. Holy Matrimony for clergymen (when for over a thousand yrs the Church permitted it).

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    >>“Expect married priests before the current “pope” is finished, followed soon after by married gay priests.”

    I hope and even anticipate married priests before the current pope's term is finished. The Catholic Church will NEVER sanction or permit married gay priests. We are not Protestants, after all. In fact, I believe that the presence of married priests will drive gay priests out of the clergy - not all, but a substantial number.

    Maybe we Catholics will end up something akin to the old divide between the White clergy and Black clergy of the Russian Orthodox church. The Black clergy were the parish priests, doing the day to day work of ministering the sacraments and dealing with the local issues of the parishioners. Naturally, some/many of the Black Clergy became rogues, falling to the temptations of life, skidding off the rails like many men do. Quite often they were tolerated, respected to a degree but not held in great esteem by the local people. The White Clergy were the monks who spent their time praying for the souls of all, having much less contact with the ordinary people. Some monks were deemed abusive, living in, if not luxury, quite comfortable surroundings, but there was always a purifying tendency in Russian monasticism where monks would break away and form new communities in austere conditions. These monks were always held in high esteem, higher than that of the priests.
    , @Percy Gryce
    The rule is:
    Married men may be ordained deacon and priest.
    No deacon or priest may marry.

    I'm Byzantine Catholic, so I have no problem with a married clergy. But it is certainly not the tradition of the Latin church, although the Latin church does have a small minority of married convert clergy and a not insignificant number of married deacons.

    A married clergy really doesn't do much to solve the vocations crisis, as most of the Orthodox churches in the U.S.--with their married clergy--also suffer from a lack of clergy.

    Also a married clergy is hugely more expensive than a celibate one and Catholics are stingy with their donations.
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  134. In Pakistan 17% of boys and girls are raped at some point in their childhood according to various studies. So that comes out to 9 girls raped per 100 rape capable Pakistani men in Pakistan. Given that child cohorts are separated by about 10 years and that there are 1,000,000 rape capable Pakistani men in the UK now (number of Pakistani males between 15-64), a back of the envelop estimate is that anywhere from 90,000 to 360,000 English girls have been raped by Muslims in the UK in the past 40 years.

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    >In Pakistan 17% of boys and girls are raped at some point in their childhood according to various studies.

    Your studies are wrong. Remind me of studies like "1 in 4 woman gets raped in college." Yes, Pakistan (and India) are shitholes. They are bad for women & young children. That said, they don't have 17% rape. We would be seeing a breakdown of civilization if it were happening.

    Source: Half of my family is from South Asia and I have spent years living there.
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  135. @AnotherDad

    Time to bring back the gallows.
     
    Time to bring back England.

    The critical function of modern "Western" governments is to keep white men from behaving normally to protect their families, communities, culture, race and nation.

    The critical function of modern “Western” governments is to keep white men from behaving normally to protect their families, communities, culture, race and nation.

    That’s a keeper.

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  136. @AnotherDad

    Trump needs to comment on this. Otherwise the US media will ignore it. I was a little disappointed Tucker didn’t cover it this evening.
     
    Trump's "the nationalist we've got", so he has my support. (Imagine the hideousness of another president who has the enthusiastic support of someone like Robert Kagan.)

    But man is he frustrating. He's President and as such has a lot of power to drive issues into public consciousness and clarify--the insanity of--what's going on. Unfornately this requires clarity of thought and clarity of purpose that Trump simply does not have.

    ~~

    These muzzies groom, abuse, rape and pimp out adolescent white girls are absolutely spot in elucidating the core issues around diversity:
    -- tribalism
    -- deep differences ethnic "diversity"--differences in cultural isn't just "restaurants!"
    -- impossibility of "multicultralism" in any sort of integrated society--a society must have one set of mores, one standard, one law
    -- the primitivism--by white Western standards--of many "diverse" peoples
    -- the inevitable conflict generated by diversity
    -- the sheer evil of the "racism!" charge.

    Basically these cases take the progressives' "diversity is our strength" lie out into the bright sunshine and shows it to be the ridiculous, disgusting, destructive lie that it is.

    And it does this in a form--abuse of girls--that is very hard for "progressives" to dismiss without looking like the complete duplicitous scumbags that they are.

    I agree. One of Trump’s greatest strengths is that he doesn’t particularly mind being called racist. The usual suspects already aren’t going to vote for him, but there are still millions of people–e.g. stupid white women who get their news from sources like The View–for whom the words Rotherham and Telford mean nothing. There are really only two sources to get this news out there–Fox News (and Tucker specifically, because he really does seem to be the only person at Fox who truly understands the grave reality of the situation and what’s at stake) and Trump himself. The media can ignore Tucker/Fox but they won’t be able to resist a new opportunity to call Trump a racist. The issue however of Pakistani rape gangs victimizing little white girls is a tough one for the media. On one hand, they can’t resist an opportunity to accuse Trump of racism; but on the other, do they really want to draw any attention to this particular issue?

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  137. @J.Ross
    How much current events are you aware of in your nearest self-walling ethnic community? Years ago we in Detroit were shocked to learn that Indians have a mafia that was shaking down Indian phone store owners. We only knew because they sloppily killed two holdouts and left the bodies. Check out V-Dare coverage of South Asian Medical Fraud and ask yourself when was the last time you heard anything like this in legacy media.

    Thanks, I had no idea V-Dare was covering this. The alt-Right could pay more attention to medical fraud as it touches all the bases. Instead of training our own medical professionals, we import them. The quality is doubtful; there are even fake-diploma mills. Why can India train all these people while we can’t? I believe that various ethnic groups, led by our homegrown most special one, have riddled our healthcare system with billions in fraud.

    The ethnic mafia control of healthcare is bases on the fact that they have no affinity for the American people: we are sheep to be sheared. That is the problem with current immigration. They come here to get rich by scamming whitey anyway they can. Broad brush. Yes I know. Some people love their immigrant doctors and obviously not all ethnic practitioners are frauds. But a ton of fraud is hiding behind their exceptionalism.

    The other issue it touches on is controlling medical costs. If Trump could actually bring down medical costs and especially pharmacy costs, it would help the ordinary person’s economy and insure reelection. I realize the GOP could care less, so it would have to come from him.

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    >Why can India train all these people while we can’t?

    Because there is a medical cartel in the US that artificially restricts the total number of doctors within the United States.

    > Though few Americans realize it, health care is a monopoly. In the early 20th century, the American Medical Association (AMA) lobbied the Federal government to close all schools not approved by its own Council on Medical Education. They unfortunately succeeded and 30 percent of medical schools were closed within 30 years. The number of doctors has been artificially capped ever since.

    https://fee.org/articles/the-medical-cartel-is-keeping-health-care-costs-high/

    Even for an Indian doctor, it is actually quite difficult to move to the US as compared to the UK or other European countries.

    >The ethnic mafia control of healthcare is bases on the fact that they have no affinity for the American people: we are sheep to be sheared.

    I know some white, Anglo-saxon Americans, who are engaged in pharmaceutical industry who have no affinity for the American people whatsoever. You may feel better blaming some immigrant for the poor state of American healthcare, but the fact remains that Americans feel quite comfortable fucking over their countrymen. They do not need some ethnic encouragement.

    The same drugs that cost $10 in Europe cost $100 in the US. Even in Pakistan, when you go to a doctor you can know how much you will be charged. In the US however, you get your bills later and are liable for all the ridiculous charges.

    >That is the problem with current immigration. They come here to get rich by scamming whitey anyway they can.

    Again, you can blame the Indians as much as you like. The fact remains that healthcare in America is a big scam run by insurance companies, doctors, large hospitals, and pharmaceutical companies that will bankrupt the country.
    , @Pericles
    The current crop of most wanted healthcare fraudsters follows. Profiles can be found at the link below, but it seems to be mostly about overcharging, fake charges, fake treatments etc to amuse Medicare and Medicaid bureaucrats.

    Conrado Lopez, Jr. (fled country, UAE or Philippines)
    Abayomi Onajobi (probably fled country, Nigeria)
    Luis Emelio Deleon (fled country, Cuba)
    Errol Elrington (fled country, Belize)
    Daniel Guerra and Aiza Rodriguez (fled country, Spain)
    Ilya Slepak (fled country, Russia)
    Jorge Portillo (Captured!)
    Miguel Hernandez and Maria Moreira (fled country, Spain)

    https://oig.hhs.gov/fraud/fugitives/
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  138. @Chrisnonymous
    You're attributing the worst to priests. I suspect most of them went into the priesthood with good intentions, perhaps trying to avoid homosexual or pedophilic tendencies. Although they need to be kept away from children, many abuser priests may be sympathetic on some level.

    Female teachers who sleep with teenage boys should be fired, but not prosecuted. They are entirely unsympathetic as people and inappropriate to have in the school system. But they haven't really done damage to anyone except themselves and their families.

    Please pray tell what damage would be done if the genders are reversed, that isn’t done by being passed around by the football team.

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  139. @AndrewR
    Will the Irish nationalists oppose this, or are they merely opposed to British Protestants in Ireland?

    There are tens of millions of people around the world descended from the Irish. Why not recruit them?

    Ireland has an African gang problem. They appear to have been involved in the recent looting following a few days of bad weather. Here’s a video on the subject (by an Ulster Protestant!): Ireland unsafe for the Irish

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  140. How are there not a hundred thousand men marching in the streets all over England? Are the men of the UK cucked beyond repair?

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    The UK is gone. All of Western Europe is. Nothing to be done about it now, except use it as a cautionary tale and hope for the best for what remains of the West.
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  141. @J.Ross
    The idea that the British are burning to exterminate all non-British whites, but that none of that violent xenophobia ever manages to spill over to non-whites, is a laughable project of MIsomething in impotent initial reaction to Brexit.

    Sorry, but the Rotherham and Telford reactions can only be explained this way. Brits really don’t see the problem with the Paki gangs

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    Could that have anything to do with them going to prison if they talk about it?
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  142. Why does Monty Python’s Eric Idle want to go to war against Christian Russia? I always thought Monty Python had a strong antiwar theme in their comedy…

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    But stronger anti-Christian theme.
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  143. @eah
    "insight"

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYJa5CsVMAA5jFU.jpg

    “as a visitor for 5 day but as you stated in your interview,”

    “I have reasons to believe”

    “speakers corner in London Hyde park”

    “Furthermore, Your boyfriend have in his possession the Leaflets with scenarios”

    And as you noticed:

    “likely to insight tensions”

    Seems the immigrants are in charge of UK immigration.

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    Actually, that's true.

    Due to 'affirmative action' Home Office staff, in London, at least, are very heavily 'enriched'.
    More than a few corruption scandals, involving selling of passports etc, have been uncovered.
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  144. @eah
    "insight"

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYJa5CsVMAA5jFU.jpg

    “filming your boyfriend Martin Sellner speech”

    Dang, I’m probably still missing some.

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  145. @JimB
    In Pakistan 17% of boys and girls are raped at some point in their childhood according to various studies. So that comes out to 9 girls raped per 100 rape capable Pakistani men in Pakistan. Given that child cohorts are separated by about 10 years and that there are 1,000,000 rape capable Pakistani men in the UK now (number of Pakistani males between 15-64), a back of the envelop estimate is that anywhere from 90,000 to 360,000 English girls have been raped by Muslims in the UK in the past 40 years.

    >In Pakistan 17% of boys and girls are raped at some point in their childhood according to various studies.

    Your studies are wrong. Remind me of studies like “1 in 4 woman gets raped in college.” Yes, Pakistan (and India) are shitholes. They are bad for women & young children. That said, they don’t have 17% rape. We would be seeing a breakdown of civilization if it were happening.

    Source: Half of my family is from South Asia and I have spent years living there.

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    142 rogue-one > That said, they don’t have 17% rape

    Lahore ==does== have a greater than 17% of middle-class married matrons who willingly pretend that their husband hires a different "secretary" or "receptionist" for his office every 5 months because the old one couldn't do the job anymore
    , @JimB
    I took my stat from a Wikipedia article “Rape in Pakistan.” Source cited:
    Rasheed, Shaireen (2004). Jyotsna Pattnaik, ed. Childhood In South Asia: A Critical Look At Issues, Policies, And Programs.
    , @Bruford or White
    " Half of my family is from South Asia and I have spent years living there"

    I lived and worked in Leicester - a majority South Asian city- for many years and have had lots of dealings with Indian call centres.

    One of the major defining characteristics of South Asian people is their utter dishonesty.
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  146. @densa
    Thanks, I had no idea V-Dare was covering this. The alt-Right could pay more attention to medical fraud as it touches all the bases. Instead of training our own medical professionals, we import them. The quality is doubtful; there are even fake-diploma mills. Why can India train all these people while we can't? I believe that various ethnic groups, led by our homegrown most special one, have riddled our healthcare system with billions in fraud.

    The ethnic mafia control of healthcare is bases on the fact that they have no affinity for the American people: we are sheep to be sheared. That is the problem with current immigration. They come here to get rich by scamming whitey anyway they can. Broad brush. Yes I know. Some people love their immigrant doctors and obviously not all ethnic practitioners are frauds. But a ton of fraud is hiding behind their exceptionalism.

    The other issue it touches on is controlling medical costs. If Trump could actually bring down medical costs and especially pharmacy costs, it would help the ordinary person's economy and insure reelection. I realize the GOP could care less, so it would have to come from him.

    >Why can India train all these people while we can’t?

    Because there is a medical cartel in the US that artificially restricts the total number of doctors within the United States.

    > Though few Americans realize it, health care is a monopoly. In the early 20th century, the American Medical Association (AMA) lobbied the Federal government to close all schools not approved by its own Council on Medical Education. They unfortunately succeeded and 30 percent of medical schools were closed within 30 years. The number of doctors has been artificially capped ever since.

    https://fee.org/articles/the-medical-cartel-is-keeping-health-care-costs-high/

    Even for an Indian doctor, it is actually quite difficult to move to the US as compared to the UK or other European countries.

    >The ethnic mafia control of healthcare is bases on the fact that they have no affinity for the American people: we are sheep to be sheared.

    I know some white, Anglo-saxon Americans, who are engaged in pharmaceutical industry who have no affinity for the American people whatsoever. You may feel better blaming some immigrant for the poor state of American healthcare, but the fact remains that Americans feel quite comfortable fucking over their countrymen. They do not need some ethnic encouragement.

    The same drugs that cost $10 in Europe cost $100 in the US. Even in Pakistan, when you go to a doctor you can know how much you will be charged. In the US however, you get your bills later and are liable for all the ridiculous charges.

    >That is the problem with current immigration. They come here to get rich by scamming whitey anyway they can.

    Again, you can blame the Indians as much as you like. The fact remains that healthcare in America is a big scam run by insurance companies, doctors, large hospitals, and pharmaceutical companies that will bankrupt the country.

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  147. @Anonymous
    Yep.

    And never mind the climactic difference, probably the most extreme possible in the inhabited globe.

    And never mind the climactic difference, probably the most extreme possible in the inhabited globe.

    They climax differently? How exactly?

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  148. @jim jones
    I just Googled for "guardian telford"

    Yes, but the point is that you knew what to look for.

    The average Guardianista will open the site and it’s not there, even in UK News. So they’ll never know about it.

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  149. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Well, at least those could be seen as crimes against whites.

    But what happens when whites welcome invasion and humiliation?

    In the pic below, that is a British cop, that is a Anglo(now Junglo)-Saxon woman, and the onlookers love the New Britain.

    If any one pic captured the future of UK. At least whites still know that what Muslim gangs did wrong. But they see nothing wrong with Afro-conquest-of-white-women. White women go that way, and the cuck-faced dorks cheer on. They don't defend Britain but join Antifa to beat up whites who don't want Junglization. Enoch Powell was wrong. Rivers of Blood is not the future of UK. It's the Rivers of Semen. UK survived Dunkirk but they won't survive Dong-Kong.

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TlRlPvbfjSo/WqcoRHYr8FI/AAAAAAAAAs0/PdNakCQsrCcg0cOvJ3LY2HdaDUAUMs7UwCLcBGAs/s1600/future%2Bof%2BUK%2Bin%2Bone%2Bpic.gif

    Believe it or not an ‘Indecent Displays Act’ dating from Victorian times is still on the British statute book. Richard Branson’s Virgin Group as prosecuted under it for putting the Sex Pistols’ album ‘Never Mind The Bollocks’ in a record store window.

    How can a ‘serving police officer’ – presumably cognizant of the law, act like that?

    The days of ‘Dixon of Dock Green’ are long gone.

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    As one wag put it, in a totally different context, mind you, 'it's more Dixon of Cock Cream' than Dixon of Dock Green'.
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  150. @War for Blair Mountain
    Why does Monty Python’s Eric Idle want to go to war against Christian Russia? I always thought Monty Python had a strong antiwar theme in their comedy...

    But stronger anti-Christian theme.

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    That was my next point about Monty Python....But you made it...
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  151. @Fredrik
    Sorry, but the Rotherham and Telford reactions can only be explained this way. Brits really don't see the problem with the Paki gangs

    Could that have anything to do with them going to prison if they talk about it?

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  152. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    “as a visitor for 5 day but as you stated in your interview,”

    “I have reasons to believe”

    “speakers corner in London Hyde park”

    “Furthermore, Your boyfriend have in his possession the Leaflets with scenarios”
     
    And as you noticed:

    “likely to insight tensions”
     
    Seems the immigrants are in charge of UK immigration.

    Actually, that’s true.

    Due to ‘affirmative action’ Home Office staff, in London, at least, are very heavily ‘enriched’.
    More than a few corruption scandals, involving selling of passports etc, have been uncovered.

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  153. @Charles Pewitt
    https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/973328229309341696

    >like a pressure cooker
    This deplorable racist never misses a chance to mock the vibrant traditions of Islam!

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    Katie Hopkins is a beautiful beacon of truth in England.
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  154. @Anonymous
    Believe it or not an 'Indecent Displays Act' dating from Victorian times is still on the British statute book. Richard Branson's Virgin Group as prosecuted under it for putting the Sex Pistols' album 'Never Mind The Bollocks' in a record store window.

    How can a 'serving police officer' - presumably cognizant of the law, act like that?

    The days of 'Dixon of Dock Green' are long gone.

    As one wag put it, in a totally different context, mind you, ‘it’s more Dixon of Cock Cream’ than Dixon of Dock Green’.

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    In the 'same vein' (sorry), it's more 'PC 69' than 'PC 49'.

    Note: PC in this instance means Police Constable and not Politically Correct.

    PC 49 was a popular fictitious British radio play character from the 1950s.

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  155. @Anon
    Well, at least those could be seen as crimes against whites.

    But what happens when whites welcome invasion and humiliation?

    In the pic below, that is a British cop, that is a Anglo(now Junglo)-Saxon woman, and the onlookers love the New Britain.

    If any one pic captured the future of UK. At least whites still know that what Muslim gangs did wrong. But they see nothing wrong with Afro-conquest-of-white-women. White women go that way, and the cuck-faced dorks cheer on. They don't defend Britain but join Antifa to beat up whites who don't want Junglization. Enoch Powell was wrong. Rivers of Blood is not the future of UK. It's the Rivers of Semen. UK survived Dunkirk but they won't survive Dong-Kong.

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TlRlPvbfjSo/WqcoRHYr8FI/AAAAAAAAAs0/PdNakCQsrCcg0cOvJ3LY2HdaDUAUMs7UwCLcBGAs/s1600/future%2Bof%2BUK%2Bin%2Bone%2Bpic.gif

    ….and this is the nation that slung poor old Benny Hill (genuinely hilarious) off the TV for being ‘lewd’ and ‘sexist’.

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  156. This is pretty funny. Memes will be made of this.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/03/13/former-nike-executive-distraught-trump-victory-becomes-hermit-avoid-consuming-news/

    Rich shoe company executive takes extended staycation at his country manse because Trump caused the sun to stop shining.

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  157. @Thea
    In Rotherham, the reaction from the Pakistani community was that the English girls deserved it for being so promiscuous. The Pakistani women said that the littles strumpets seduced their men. Zero empathy or remorse. The accused remain smug & defiant to this day.

    Miss Markle visited the illegal aliens from Grenfell but nary a sympathetic word for pretty white girls.

    I don't see how the Englisj people can get out of this. No one in power has their back and truthfully their women are promiscuous. Single moms of these poor girls have a lot of blame for kicking dad out so they could party.

    Why, you’re absolutely right, the British underclass is renowned for its loving, reliable, fiercely protective, teetotaler fathers, effectively thwarted in carrying out their fatherly duties through the perfidious machinations of their party-loving babymamas.

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  158. @Anon
    Well, at least those could be seen as crimes against whites.

    But what happens when whites welcome invasion and humiliation?

    In the pic below, that is a British cop, that is a Anglo(now Junglo)-Saxon woman, and the onlookers love the New Britain.

    If any one pic captured the future of UK. At least whites still know that what Muslim gangs did wrong. But they see nothing wrong with Afro-conquest-of-white-women. White women go that way, and the cuck-faced dorks cheer on. They don't defend Britain but join Antifa to beat up whites who don't want Junglization. Enoch Powell was wrong. Rivers of Blood is not the future of UK. It's the Rivers of Semen. UK survived Dunkirk but they won't survive Dong-Kong.

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TlRlPvbfjSo/WqcoRHYr8FI/AAAAAAAAAs0/PdNakCQsrCcg0cOvJ3LY2HdaDUAUMs7UwCLcBGAs/s1600/future%2Bof%2BUK%2Bin%2Bone%2Bpic.gif

    One choice bit of English slang is ‘love truncheon’ – truncheon being the official term for the nightsticks that British police habitually carry in lieu of pistols – as yet another humorous simile for the ‘membrum virile’.

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    Not to mention that lewd term, so beloved by UK adolescent boys 'helmet' - from the fancied resemblance of the 'glans' to the traditional British Bobby's occupational headgear.
    , @Autochthon
    Thanks to the fiercer (albeit waning) protections of our fundamental freedoms in F.U.S.A., we of course instead have love guns.

    Thanks; I'm here all week. Please tip your waitresses.
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  159. @rogue-one
    >In Pakistan 17% of boys and girls are raped at some point in their childhood according to various studies.

    Your studies are wrong. Remind me of studies like "1 in 4 woman gets raped in college." Yes, Pakistan (and India) are shitholes. They are bad for women & young children. That said, they don't have 17% rape. We would be seeing a breakdown of civilization if it were happening.

    Source: Half of my family is from South Asia and I have spent years living there.

    142 rogue-one > That said, they don’t have 17% rape

    Lahore ==does== have a greater than 17% of middle-class married matrons who willingly pretend that their husband hires a different “secretary” or “receptionist” for his office every 5 months because the old one couldn’t do the job anymore

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    I am not entirely sure what you are trying to say. If you mean that 17% of middle-class women in Lahore will pretend their husband isn't sexually abusing their secretary: Then yeah, I would assume the number will be closer to 80%. Family matters over principles.

    However, 17% of men in Lahore do not have a woman working under them. Further, many women in Lahore have family/clans who will engage in brutal honor killings to avenge her honor.

    I could believe a stat suggesting 25% of woman have been inappropriately touched in public transport by some guy or were cat-called. I could believe that the rates of rapes by strangers (especially gang rapes) are much higher. But 17% of women being raped sounds impossible. We would be seeing society disintegrating (or women locked inside the doors all the time) if that were the case.
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  160. @Anonymous
    One choice bit of English slang is 'love truncheon' - truncheon being the official term for the nightsticks that British police habitually carry in lieu of pistols - as yet another humorous simile for the 'membrum virile'.

    Not to mention that lewd term, so beloved by UK adolescent boys ‘helmet’ – from the fancied resemblance of the ‘glans’ to the traditional British Bobby’s occupational headgear.

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  161. @Malcolm X-Lax
    How are there not a hundred thousand men marching in the streets all over England? Are the men of the UK cucked beyond repair?

    The UK is gone. All of Western Europe is. Nothing to be done about it now, except use it as a cautionary tale and hope for the best for what remains of the West.

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    The UK is gone. All of Western Europe is. Nothing to be done about it now, except use it as a cautionary tale and hope for the best for what remains of the West.

     

    Brittany Pettibone has the fighting spirit needed at this time:

    https://twitter.com/BrittPettibone/status/971347342103318532
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  162. @rogue-one
    >In Pakistan 17% of boys and girls are raped at some point in their childhood according to various studies.

    Your studies are wrong. Remind me of studies like "1 in 4 woman gets raped in college." Yes, Pakistan (and India) are shitholes. They are bad for women & young children. That said, they don't have 17% rape. We would be seeing a breakdown of civilization if it were happening.

    Source: Half of my family is from South Asia and I have spent years living there.

    I took my stat from a Wikipedia article “Rape in Pakistan.” Source cited:
    Rasheed, Shaireen (2004). Jyotsna Pattnaik, ed. Childhood In South Asia: A Critical Look At Issues, Policies, And Programs.

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    Thanks for the information.

    I must disagree with it. I could provide several sources suggesting 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 woman experiences sexual assault in American college. (for example: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/22/us/a-third-of-college-women-experience-unwanted-sexual-contact-study-finds.html)

    By this standard, Lahore is safer for women than Yale. But, we both know that it is not true. A lot of these rape statistics are overly inflated by ideologically motivated researchers.

    There are serious problems for women in Pakistan such as:

    1. Gang rapes by strangers, especially poorer men.
    2. Honor killings.
    3. Rape or forcible marriage of minority (Christian or Hindu) girls in villages
    4. Molestation in public transport or on roads when a woman is alone
    5. Corrupt and inefficient police

    I can imagine several other small and big difficulties faced by women in Pakistan. But 17% of women being raped is simply too much. If that were the case, men would lock the women indoors all the time. (Or the women themselves would lock themselves indoors) or we would be seeing societal disintegration.

    I don't know what the actual numbers of rapes in Lahore are. I imagine there are much fewer "date rapes" and much more "stranger rapes" than in a city like LA. But I am 100% sure that 17% of women in Lahore do not get raped.
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  163. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @jim jones
    How did you manage to miss this?:

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/mar/12/1000-children-victims-worst-uk-abuse-ring-telford

    Because it’s not on the Guardian’s UK front page, but these are?

    Sadiq Khan reads out racist tweets in call for tighter tech regulation

    Home Office keeping torture victims in detention, inspectors report

    London Central mosque given Grade II* listed status

    Discrimination against migrants in the NHS will make staffing problems worse

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  164. @Anonymous
    As one wag put it, in a totally different context, mind you, 'it's more Dixon of Cock Cream' than Dixon of Dock Green'.

    In the ‘same vein’ (sorry), it’s more ‘PC 69′ than ‘PC 49′.

    Note: PC in this instance means Police Constable and not Politically Correct.

    PC 49 was a popular fictitious British radio play character from the 1950s.

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  165. @densa
    Thanks, I had no idea V-Dare was covering this. The alt-Right could pay more attention to medical fraud as it touches all the bases. Instead of training our own medical professionals, we import them. The quality is doubtful; there are even fake-diploma mills. Why can India train all these people while we can't? I believe that various ethnic groups, led by our homegrown most special one, have riddled our healthcare system with billions in fraud.

    The ethnic mafia control of healthcare is bases on the fact that they have no affinity for the American people: we are sheep to be sheared. That is the problem with current immigration. They come here to get rich by scamming whitey anyway they can. Broad brush. Yes I know. Some people love their immigrant doctors and obviously not all ethnic practitioners are frauds. But a ton of fraud is hiding behind their exceptionalism.

    The other issue it touches on is controlling medical costs. If Trump could actually bring down medical costs and especially pharmacy costs, it would help the ordinary person's economy and insure reelection. I realize the GOP could care less, so it would have to come from him.

    The current crop of most wanted healthcare fraudsters follows. Profiles can be found at the link below, but it seems to be mostly about overcharging, fake charges, fake treatments etc to amuse Medicare and Medicaid bureaucrats.

    Conrado Lopez, Jr. (fled country, UAE or Philippines)
    Abayomi Onajobi (probably fled country, Nigeria)
    Luis Emelio Deleon (fled country, Cuba)
    Errol Elrington (fled country, Belize)
    Daniel Guerra and Aiza Rodriguez (fled country, Spain)
    Ilya Slepak (fled country, Russia)
    Jorge Portillo (Captured!)
    Miguel Hernandez and Maria Moreira (fled country, Spain)

    https://oig.hhs.gov/fraud/fugitives/

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  166. Brittany Pettibone is the lady who was arrested and detained for three days in England for political reasons. Pettibone was a political prisoner of the UK government under Prime Minister Theresa May. Pettibone is a beautiful lady with guts.

    Brittany Pettibone says the MUSLIM RAPE GANGS in England are atrocious and they need more media coverage. The evil ruling class of England is using their controlled media to silence the MUSLIM RAPE GANG atrocity in England.

    Patriotic men and women must begin legally retaliating against the evil ruling classes in England and the United States. Trump and Brexit are a good start.

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    I'm glad you're so enraptured with the alt-right's very own bit of celebrity couple tabloid drama.
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  167. @Anon
    Well, at least those could be seen as crimes against whites.

    But what happens when whites welcome invasion and humiliation?

    In the pic below, that is a British cop, that is a Anglo(now Junglo)-Saxon woman, and the onlookers love the New Britain.

    If any one pic captured the future of UK. At least whites still know that what Muslim gangs did wrong. But they see nothing wrong with Afro-conquest-of-white-women. White women go that way, and the cuck-faced dorks cheer on. They don't defend Britain but join Antifa to beat up whites who don't want Junglization. Enoch Powell was wrong. Rivers of Blood is not the future of UK. It's the Rivers of Semen. UK survived Dunkirk but they won't survive Dong-Kong.

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TlRlPvbfjSo/WqcoRHYr8FI/AAAAAAAAAs0/PdNakCQsrCcg0cOvJ3LY2HdaDUAUMs7UwCLcBGAs/s1600/future%2Bof%2BUK%2Bin%2Bone%2Bpic.gif

    I bet she loved her bit of ‘Truncheon Meat Sandwich’ for dinner.

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  168. @Anonymous
    The UK is gone. All of Western Europe is. Nothing to be done about it now, except use it as a cautionary tale and hope for the best for what remains of the West.

    The UK is gone. All of Western Europe is. Nothing to be done about it now, except use it as a cautionary tale and hope for the best for what remains of the West.

    Brittany Pettibone has the fighting spirit needed at this time:

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    I go back and forth between optimism and despair: Maybe we are just one spark away from setting this powder keg off; and then I read twitter and think, white cat ladies, angry black chicks and jews seem to be in full control of the country and there's no hope.
    , @unpc downunder
    Based on current trends, the European country which is most likely to be overrun by Muslims is Belgium. Progressive Sweden is the favourite whipping boy of right-wing doomsayers but it still has a relatively small Muslim population and the government is cutting back on refugee quotas.
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  169. @George
    "Who immigrate purely for economic reasons"

    It appears the UK absolutely had to build a dam in Pakistan. An obstacle to dam construction was the local people, Mirpuris, needed to be relocated. It is not clear why a location in Pakistan was unavailable, but to keep the project going the Mirpuris were relocated to the UK. I am guessing the UK had some vacant housing and moving the Mirpuris to the UK was cheaper than building housing in Pakistan. Filling vacant housing in the UK with rent payers was probably part of the attraction of the plan. Mirpuris are the specific group linked to these sex scandals. I cannot find info on the ratio of Mirpuris to other groups in the UK.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangla_Dam

    Forum posts about Mirpuris

    "In Pakistan itself, the Mirpuris are known as 'janglee' type people. Very backward and crime-ridden. The situation is no different here in the UK. Pakistani Punjabis want nothing to do with them and are ashamed of their antics."

    Other posts mention cousin marriage. Janglee probably means Jungle.

    Mirpuris make up 90% of pakistani immigrants in the Uk if you ask most pakistanis they will say they are from mirpur. They are all related from north to south hence they have drug contacts and also prositutue under aged girls through their network (dont know if you herd about that). Look up tommy robinson edl on youtube and he highlights issues.

    http://sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/76020-pakistani-punjabis-or-mirpuris/

    >> It appears the UK absolutely had to build a dam in Pakistan.

    Why did the British “absolutely” have to build a dam in a foreign country? Why did the British have to agree that displaced villagers and farmers be resettled in Britain? This compulsion to act on the interests of foreign governments is a problem all over the west. It is one reason that I don’t want to see the Koreas reunited. If the border came down tomorrow, South Korea would be flooded with migrants from the north (not our problem or concern) and the South Koreans would demand that the US take in 100s of thousands of such migrants, and only Donald Trump as President would tell the Koreans to go stuff it.

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    >> It appears the UK absolutely had to build a dam in Pakistan.

    Why did the British “absolutely” have to build a dam in a foreign country? Why did the British have to agree that displaced villagers and farmers be resettled in Britain?
     
    Privatize the profits (to the construction companies); socialize the losses (to the British public, in perpetuity).
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  170. @Anonymous
    If they are having sex with boys under the age of consent, they are breaking the law and should be prosecuted, even though the victims are not very harmed by the practice. Any woman if not repulsive, smelly, diseased or very elderly can get all she wants with men of legal age.

    >>Any woman if not repulsive, smelly, diseased or very elderly can get all she wants with men of legal age.

    Many women, even if repulsive, smelly, diseased and elderly can get – if not all they want – very much of what they want from men of legal age. Eggs (even when beyond sell date) are expensive, thus valuable.

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  171. @J.Ross
    We are still thinking of Islam as some equivalent to Christianity when it is completely different. There is absolutely nothing perverse or abnormal about any of this, except its location. This was a completely predictable event. Prior to the modern era, a constant threat to European women was being taken by Muslims to be used as rape slaves. Islam doesn't have the same categoric disapproval of sex that became normal in Christianity, but it does spend a lot of time on making sure you select the right victim and worry about consequences. Islam pointedly encourages the regular mistreatment and exploitation of non-Muslims (justified as an incentive to conversion) in a way that has no scriptural parallel to Christianity (the parallel would be Jesus telling his disciples to kill all that oppose them and take their women).

    I wonder if there is a difference here between Sunni and Shia. These stories seem to involve only Sunnis.

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    Sunnis are a bigger threat because they are far more numerous and the most dangerous group, the Salafists (overlaps Saudis, alCIAda, ISIS, and "Wahhabites" for our purposes) are Sunni supremacists. But there's very little real difference and a lot of Shi'a goodness is in relative portrayal to their nuttier neighbors. There is a lot more agreement and cooperation than is publicized: all Muslim governments have their own separate Muslim United Nations, and they are working on, among other things, eliminating freedom of speech in every country on Earth (to protect the name of their warlord prophet). They see eye to eye on censorship, torture, and terrorism, and disagree about pin angels.
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  172. @J.Ross
    >like a pressure cooker
    This deplorable racist never misses a chance to mock the vibrant traditions of Islam!

    Katie Hopkins is a beautiful beacon of truth in England.

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  173. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    During out conversion classes, the priests calmly explained, volunteered, should say, that ever since the '70's, roughly about 45% of the total number of priests in the US have been gay. They quoted from a former priest now psychologist who made the survey and collected information over a few decades.

    When in a hole, best to stop digging.

    "Expect married priests before the current “pope” is finished, followed soon after by married gay priests."

    Who but a Roman Catholic would equate married priests with gay married priests? In other words, while technically its not a mortal (or even a venial) sin for priests to marry (certain Catholic rites, e.g. Byzantine, permit priests to marry), in the Catholic mind the idea that priests should dare to participate in the sacrament of marriage or holy matrimony, is an abomination.

    And this isn't a new thing. Sir Thomas More went apesh*! over Martin Luther daring to leave the monastery to get married.

    It's okay for clergymen to have prostitutes, participate in orgies, even frequent the gay scene, etc. but to actually participate in marriage? Horrors!

    FACT: For the first thousand yrs of its history, the Catholic Church permitted their priests to marry. Even today, it isn't a dogma that they cannot get married and the Pope could as stated, could issue a decree rescinding the discipline and permit priests to marry.

    That would certainly help to go a long way to increasing the number of priests in the US and rest of the Western World.

    Or the alternative is to import more and more priests from Africa, India, South America.

    Why not just let priests get married? What is the hangup vs. Holy Matrimony for clergymen (when for over a thousand yrs the Church permitted it).

    >>“Expect married priests before the current “pope” is finished, followed soon after by married gay priests.”

    I hope and even anticipate married priests before the current pope’s term is finished. The Catholic Church will NEVER sanction or permit married gay priests. We are not Protestants, after all. In fact, I believe that the presence of married priests will drive gay priests out of the clergy – not all, but a substantial number.

    Maybe we Catholics will end up something akin to the old divide between the White clergy and Black clergy of the Russian Orthodox church. The Black clergy were the parish priests, doing the day to day work of ministering the sacraments and dealing with the local issues of the parishioners. Naturally, some/many of the Black Clergy became rogues, falling to the temptations of life, skidding off the rails like many men do. Quite often they were tolerated, respected to a degree but not held in great esteem by the local people. The White Clergy were the monks who spent their time praying for the souls of all, having much less contact with the ordinary people. Some monks were deemed abusive, living in, if not luxury, quite comfortable surroundings, but there was always a purifying tendency in Russian monasticism where monks would break away and form new communities in austere conditions. These monks were always held in high esteem, higher than that of the priests.

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    Other way around, black clergy are celibate monks.
    https://elliotsreading.blogspot.com/2012/07/extreme-chekhov-black-monk.html
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  174. @Bill
    So what? The fact that women will follow whomever is in charge and will believe the ruling ideology is just a fact about the world. Directing your anger at women is stupid and counterproductive. It's not a fault to be a woman.

    You must have a very low opinion of women if you think they’re not responsible for their words, actions, voting patterns, or political views. You’re basically saying women are equivalent to animals or children in terms of moral agency.

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    You must have a very low opinion of women if you think they’re not responsible for their words, actions, voting patterns, or political views. You’re basically saying women are equivalent to animals or children in terms of moral agency.
     
    You've got the red pill in your mouth ... can you swallow it?
    , @Bill
    Your comment is so far from right it isn't even wrong. Moral agency does not entail some Olympian repose above all Earthly things. Responsibility is not some digital switch which is either on or off. Children, for example, are, in fact, responsible to a considerable extent for many of their actions. Adults, for example, are, in fact, frequently not 100% responsible for many of their actions. Finally, nothing in my comment said, implied, or could reasonably be inferred to mean that women are not responsible for their actions.

    Here's an exercise for you. Take the hints I just gave you and my comment above, and engage yourself as a lawyer in my defense. Make the very best argument you possibly can that I am not "basically saying women are equivalent to animals." Posting it here is optional: the point of the exercise is to get yourself outside the autistic loop your thinking is trapped within.
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  175. @Bill
    So what? The fact that women will follow whomever is in charge and will believe the ruling ideology is just a fact about the world. Directing your anger at women is stupid and counterproductive. It's not a fault to be a woman.

    He’s onto something. If women are not dominated by White men they will choose other men to dominate them and will defend them.

    The only way out is ruthless domination at all levels. Fear not live as Machiavelli advised. Stop pedestalizing women and treat them as the strategic objective they are.

    Women are the schwepunkt the decisive hinge of battle. Control them control society. We need a nation if feared men not high iq

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    I can't believe you blowhards still won't shut up after 2016. Round-the-clock anti-Trump propaganda from a hostile media still didn't prevent White women from voting for a "racist" and a "Nazi" right along with the men.

    Granted, men seem to be a little more resistant to egalitarian propaganda than women. Given the outsized role of men in bringing non-White cheap labor into the West, I'd say we're even Stephen.
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  176. @Charles Pewitt

    The UK is gone. All of Western Europe is. Nothing to be done about it now, except use it as a cautionary tale and hope for the best for what remains of the West.

     

    Brittany Pettibone has the fighting spirit needed at this time:

    https://twitter.com/BrittPettibone/status/971347342103318532

    I go back and forth between optimism and despair: Maybe we are just one spark away from setting this powder keg off; and then I read twitter and think, white cat ladies, angry black chicks and jews seem to be in full control of the country and there’s no hope.

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  177. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/843kcw/bbc_telford_abuse_i_was_sold_twice_a_night/dvmpfrt/

    I worked for a law firm in one of the cities where one of these gangs took place. I sat down with some of the despicable scum that do things like this and it was enough for me to leave my role as soon as I was in a position too.

    … But the worst was when, despite the investigation being ongoing, despite at that point 40 or so people being charged one of the clients offered to take me to one of the parties as a thank you for everything i’d done for him.

    … But from the clients I spoke to I had multiple times when they would say something like “Why hasn’t ________ been charged, he was at all the parties as well”.

    … The biggest change that could be made is anonymity for the accused until conviction. It’s easier to prosecute 30 Asian men for sex crimes if you don’t have to reveal that they are 30 Asian men because otherwise it alerts the community (who start covering their tracks and becoming much more hostile to questioning) and makes the community a target for certain groups.

    … Obviously it’s an issue in the Islamic community (though the act’s obviously are not the result of the religion as these are parties and events filled with debauchery, drugs, drink, almost everything you could consider to be the antithesis of dutiful Islamic behavior.) but the targeting of these gangs is far too methodical to be done by groups without knowledge of the girls, or at least the source of the girls (communities, care homes, poor quality schools, victim support groups, Rehab centers ect.).

    In the case I worked on there were apparently 4 early 20′s white girls supplying the girls for the parties. 1 was convicted.

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  178. @rogue-one
    >In Pakistan 17% of boys and girls are raped at some point in their childhood according to various studies.

    Your studies are wrong. Remind me of studies like "1 in 4 woman gets raped in college." Yes, Pakistan (and India) are shitholes. They are bad for women & young children. That said, they don't have 17% rape. We would be seeing a breakdown of civilization if it were happening.

    Source: Half of my family is from South Asia and I have spent years living there.

    ” Half of my family is from South Asia and I have spent years living there”

    I lived and worked in Leicester – a majority South Asian city- for many years and have had lots of dealings with Indian call centres.

    One of the major defining characteristics of South Asian people is their utter dishonesty.

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  179. @Charles Pewitt
    Brittany Pettibone is the lady who was arrested and detained for three days in England for political reasons. Pettibone was a political prisoner of the UK government under Prime Minister Theresa May. Pettibone is a beautiful lady with guts.

    Brittany Pettibone says the MUSLIM RAPE GANGS in England are atrocious and they need more media coverage. The evil ruling class of England is using their controlled media to silence the MUSLIM RAPE GANG atrocity in England.

    Patriotic men and women must begin legally retaliating against the evil ruling classes in England and the United States. Trump and Brexit are a good start.

    https://twitter.com/BrittPettibone/status/973553921615650818

    I’m glad you’re so enraptured with the alt-right’s very own bit of celebrity couple tabloid drama.

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    I’m glad you’re so enraptured with the alt-right’s very own bit of celebrity couple tabloid drama.

     

    That seems sarcastic. Brittany Pettibone and Lauren Southern and the Austrian from the Generation Identity group are brave fighters for FREE SPEECH. God Bless Them!

    Are you glad about the FREE SPEECH supporters Pettibone, Southern and the Austrian, or are you just being sarcastic?

    English actor Christian Bale has my reply:

    https://youtu.be/5hR5YNqE3K8
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  180. @Karl
    142 rogue-one > That said, they don’t have 17% rape

    Lahore ==does== have a greater than 17% of middle-class married matrons who willingly pretend that their husband hires a different "secretary" or "receptionist" for his office every 5 months because the old one couldn't do the job anymore

    I am not entirely sure what you are trying to say. If you mean that 17% of middle-class women in Lahore will pretend their husband isn’t sexually abusing their secretary: Then yeah, I would assume the number will be closer to 80%. Family matters over principles.

    However, 17% of men in Lahore do not have a woman working under them. Further, many women in Lahore have family/clans who will engage in brutal honor killings to avenge her honor.

    I could believe a stat suggesting 25% of woman have been inappropriately touched in public transport by some guy or were cat-called. I could believe that the rates of rapes by strangers (especially gang rapes) are much higher. But 17% of women being raped sounds impossible. We would be seeing society disintegrating (or women locked inside the doors all the time) if that were the case.

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  181. @JimB
    I took my stat from a Wikipedia article “Rape in Pakistan.” Source cited:
    Rasheed, Shaireen (2004). Jyotsna Pattnaik, ed. Childhood In South Asia: A Critical Look At Issues, Policies, And Programs.

    Thanks for the information.

    I must disagree with it. I could provide several sources suggesting 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 woman experiences sexual assault in American college. (for example: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/22/us/a-third-of-college-women-experience-unwanted-sexual-contact-study-finds.html)

    By this standard, Lahore is safer for women than Yale. But, we both know that it is not true. A lot of these rape statistics are overly inflated by ideologically motivated researchers.

    There are serious problems for women in Pakistan such as:

    1. Gang rapes by strangers, especially poorer men.
    2. Honor killings.
    3. Rape or forcible marriage of minority (Christian or Hindu) girls in villages
    4. Molestation in public transport or on roads when a woman is alone
    5. Corrupt and inefficient police

    I can imagine several other small and big difficulties faced by women in Pakistan. But 17% of women being raped is simply too much. If that were the case, men would lock the women indoors all the time. (Or the women themselves would lock themselves indoors) or we would be seeing societal disintegration.

    I don’t know what the actual numbers of rapes in Lahore are. I imagine there are much fewer “date rapes” and much more “stranger rapes” than in a city like LA. But I am 100% sure that 17% of women in Lahore do not get raped.

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    Women in an Ivy League school in America and women in a family compound in an explicitly Muslim state have slightly different resources available to them. There is nothing dishonest about accepting one claim as likely and throwing out another as preposterous. Although I would expect that Lahore would be significantly better than rural areas.
    By the way, they are attempting something called "Mosque Me Too," about getting raped in Mecca on the Hajj. Surely this will end well.
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  182. To demonstrate the outrage in the UK the main BBC news has just spent 20 minutes discussing minor sanctions against Russia, and managed to report on Manchester United exiting some football championship. Now covering Rex Tillerson.

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    >BBC
    >reflecting British popular opinion
    Okay.
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  183. @Charles Pewitt
    It's not just Telford; it's many other parts of England.

    It's not just Labour; the Tories are responsible, too.

    MUSLIM RAPE GANGS have been killing, raping and brutalizing English young ladies for decades.

    The ruling class of England has used the importation of foreigners as a weapon to destroy cultural cohesion in England.

    The ruling class of England wants to demographically deconstruct England so as to make it a deracinated zone suitable for plutocrat plundering.

    There is no FREE SPEECH in England.

    The ruling class of the American Empire is just as evil as the ruling class of England.

    >The ruling class of England wants to demographically deconstruct England so as to make it a deracinated zone suitable for plutocrat plundering.

    How would transforming England into Pakistan or South Africa is better for elites? Would they be comfortably shielded from Pakistani or African demagogues? I assume they can send their kids to better schools but wouldn’t their children be victims of assault on the tube or on streets? Wouldn’t a lack of social trust destroy all that which makes life pleasant, both for masses and for elites? Wouldn’t some Zuma take away their wealth?

    Rather, I think the elites have their heads up their asses. To confront the problem, they must admit that their policies for last 30 years were wrong. And they don’t want to do that.

    There is no inner party, just a bunch of careerist morons.

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    >How would transforming England into Pakistan or South Africa is better for elites?

    Because it means the end of any pretense at democracy. They will be able to do whatever they want to do at any time. Occassionally there will be a riot in a distant ghetto. No Farages, no Brexits, no town hall meetings. Also maximizing labor flexibility and making many other resources available; also essentially grabbing everything now held by the middle class.

    >I think they're just stupid

    Yeah they accidentally stumbled across this, every year for my lifetime. They're very clumsy. Funny thing that random chance, always delivering programmatic results and eliminating opponents with coordinated attacks.
    , @James N. Kennett

    How would transforming England into Pakistan or South Africa is better for elites?
     
    In a democracy, the ruling classes are afraid of the organised masses - who might vote them out of office. They also despise the native underclass, even though they are responsible for creating it. Thus they prefer a racially mixed population, and they have a particular liking for minorities with a tendency towards underachievement and deviancy.

    On top of the usual reasons for immigration - to depress wages (for Conservatives) and provide voters (for Labour) - the proposition is irresistible.
    , @Rosie
    You make the fundamental error of thinking of "our" elites as rooted in the nation, with an interest in its long-term survival and prosperity. They do not care about this at all. They see themselves as outsiders, and they use our tax dollars to secure their refuge from the misery to come.
    , @George
    "How would transforming England into Pakistan or South Africa is better for elites? "

    When Enoch 'Rivers of Blood' Powell was actually in power he was tasked with shoring up the new National Health Service. He is the one who brought the first mass Caribean immigration to the UK. There was no grand conspiracy, just people like Powell trying to get more done with less funding.

    Japan may have been so destroyed after the war, immigration was not an option as it was in more or less intact UK. Japan did not have vacant cities to stuff immigrants into as they were all firebombed or even nuked. Japan's only choice was internal. Also, the US occupation government of Japan may not have thought immigration was a good idea, or even thought about bringing millions of non Japanese to Japan to solve a cheap labor problem.
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  184. “The safe bet is that this is pretty much of a nationwide disgrace due to Diversity Worship.”

    No, Mr. Sailer, the safe bet is that this nationwide disgrace is due to sexual deviancy by men.

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    “The safe bet is that this is pretty much of a nationwide disgrace due to Diversity Worship.”

    No, Mr. Sailer, the safe bet is that this nationwide disgrace is due to sexual deviancy by men.
     
    Well, men from a certain non-European part of the globe......
    , @James N. Kennett

    No, Mr. Sailer, the safe bet is that this nationwide disgrace is due to sexual deviancy by men.
     
    All men are rapists, but some are more rapist than others.
    , @L Woods
    Oh Christ. Could you possibly be more tediously mendacious?
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  185. OT:

    Washington Post finds a new crusade.

    ICE deserves to be abolished

    >Everyone loves a litmus test, and because abortion has proved too thorny these past few years, some on the left have proposed another bright line for candidates to toe: the abolition of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/03/13/of-course-democrats-should-want-to-abolish-ice/

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  186. @L Woods
    I'm glad you're so enraptured with the alt-right's very own bit of celebrity couple tabloid drama.

    I’m glad you’re so enraptured with the alt-right’s very own bit of celebrity couple tabloid drama.

    That seems sarcastic. Brittany Pettibone and Lauren Southern and the Austrian from the Generation Identity group are brave fighters for FREE SPEECH. God Bless Them!

    Are you glad about the FREE SPEECH supporters Pettibone, Southern and the Austrian, or are you just being sarcastic?

    English actor Christian Bale has my reply:

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  187. @Corvinus
    "The safe bet is that this is pretty much of a nationwide disgrace due to Diversity Worship."

    No, Mr. Sailer, the safe bet is that this nationwide disgrace is due to sexual deviancy by men.

    “The safe bet is that this is pretty much of a nationwide disgrace due to Diversity Worship.”

    No, Mr. Sailer, the safe bet is that this nationwide disgrace is due to sexual deviancy by men.

    Well, men from a certain non-European part of the globe……

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    "Well, men from a certain non-European part of the globe……"

    No, from men period, regardless of where they originate.
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  188. @Jay Ritchie
    To demonstrate the outrage in the UK the main BBC news has just spent 20 minutes discussing minor sanctions against Russia, and managed to report on Manchester United exiting some football championship. Now covering Rex Tillerson.

    >BBC
    >reflecting British popular opinion
    Okay.

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  189. @rogue-one
    Thanks for the information.

    I must disagree with it. I could provide several sources suggesting 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 woman experiences sexual assault in American college. (for example: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/22/us/a-third-of-college-women-experience-unwanted-sexual-contact-study-finds.html)

    By this standard, Lahore is safer for women than Yale. But, we both know that it is not true. A lot of these rape statistics are overly inflated by ideologically motivated researchers.

    There are serious problems for women in Pakistan such as:

    1. Gang rapes by strangers, especially poorer men.
    2. Honor killings.
    3. Rape or forcible marriage of minority (Christian or Hindu) girls in villages
    4. Molestation in public transport or on roads when a woman is alone
    5. Corrupt and inefficient police

    I can imagine several other small and big difficulties faced by women in Pakistan. But 17% of women being raped is simply too much. If that were the case, men would lock the women indoors all the time. (Or the women themselves would lock themselves indoors) or we would be seeing societal disintegration.

    I don't know what the actual numbers of rapes in Lahore are. I imagine there are much fewer "date rapes" and much more "stranger rapes" than in a city like LA. But I am 100% sure that 17% of women in Lahore do not get raped.

    Women in an Ivy League school in America and women in a family compound in an explicitly Muslim state have slightly different resources available to them. There is nothing dishonest about accepting one claim as likely and throwing out another as preposterous. Although I would expect that Lahore would be significantly better than rural areas.
    By the way, they are attempting something called “Mosque Me Too,” about getting raped in Mecca on the Hajj. Surely this will end well.

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    Both statements are probably true, depending on the definition of rape.
    Broad definitions of rape are not necessarily frivolous or vindictive BTW. They're just impractical.

    I suspect rape (defined as women feeling intimidated into sex) is becoming more common with people like Taharoosh coaching men on how to walk right up to the line while not technically crossing it.

    Eventually, this will render unsupervised courtship (and therefore the love match) effectively impossible. Since you cannot have loving companionship and brutal domination at the same time, I suspect this would be not only acceptable but even ideal to the knuckle-dragger faction of the dissident Right.
    , @rogue-one
    >Women in an Ivy League school in America and women in a family compound in an explicitly Muslim state have slightly different resources available to them. There is nothing dishonest about accepting one claim as likely and throwing out another as preposterous.

    17% of women being raped means that in several rape victims in every family there is a rape victim (In South Asia the definition of family includes cousins & close relatives.) And men in a honor culture do absolutely nothing about their women being raped? Or women do not simply lock themselves in to avoid being raped despite knowing what happened to their sisters & aunts?

    I think you are trying to use words like "different resources", "explicitly Muslim state", etc. to make your preposterous logic sound logical but it is not.

    Both stats (and you) are wrong.
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  190. @Daniel H
    >>“Expect married priests before the current “pope” is finished, followed soon after by married gay priests.”

    I hope and even anticipate married priests before the current pope's term is finished. The Catholic Church will NEVER sanction or permit married gay priests. We are not Protestants, after all. In fact, I believe that the presence of married priests will drive gay priests out of the clergy - not all, but a substantial number.

    Maybe we Catholics will end up something akin to the old divide between the White clergy and Black clergy of the Russian Orthodox church. The Black clergy were the parish priests, doing the day to day work of ministering the sacraments and dealing with the local issues of the parishioners. Naturally, some/many of the Black Clergy became rogues, falling to the temptations of life, skidding off the rails like many men do. Quite often they were tolerated, respected to a degree but not held in great esteem by the local people. The White Clergy were the monks who spent their time praying for the souls of all, having much less contact with the ordinary people. Some monks were deemed abusive, living in, if not luxury, quite comfortable surroundings, but there was always a purifying tendency in Russian monasticism where monks would break away and form new communities in austere conditions. These monks were always held in high esteem, higher than that of the priests.

    Other way around, black clergy are celibate monks.

    https://elliotsreading.blogspot.com/2012/07/extreme-chekhov-black-monk.html

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    Thanks for the correction.
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  191. @syonredux

    “The safe bet is that this is pretty much of a nationwide disgrace due to Diversity Worship.”

    No, Mr. Sailer, the safe bet is that this nationwide disgrace is due to sexual deviancy by men.
     
    Well, men from a certain non-European part of the globe......

    “Well, men from a certain non-European part of the globe……”

    No, from men period, regardless of where they originate.

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    There were sexual grooming gang scandals before the Pakistani's arrived?
    , @CrunchybutRealistCon

    No, from men period, regardless of where they originate.
     
    It doesn't matter how many times you wish for egalitarianism in criminality. Race, religion & ethnicity are huge factors.

    Look at the data on rape in Sweden. It rises is tandem with increasing 3rd world immigration.
    Why do Poland, Iceland and Hungary not have these rape gangs?
    , @syonredux

    Well, men from a certain non-European part of the globe……”

    No, from men period, regardless of where they originate.
     
    Really? The story out of Telford indicates that the men in question come from outside of Europe......


    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/28/09/42C3830200000578-0-image-a-17_1501232357165.jpg
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  192. Isn’t CAMP OF SAINTS the story of what happened to Palestine as the result of the arrival of Jewish ‘refugees’.

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  193. @rogue-one
    >The ruling class of England wants to demographically deconstruct England so as to make it a deracinated zone suitable for plutocrat plundering.


    How would transforming England into Pakistan or South Africa is better for elites? Would they be comfortably shielded from Pakistani or African demagogues? I assume they can send their kids to better schools but wouldn't their children be victims of assault on the tube or on streets? Wouldn't a lack of social trust destroy all that which makes life pleasant, both for masses and for elites? Wouldn't some Zuma take away their wealth?

    Rather, I think the elites have their heads up their asses. To confront the problem, they must admit that their policies for last 30 years were wrong. And they don't want to do that.

    There is no inner party, just a bunch of careerist morons.

    >How would transforming England into Pakistan or South Africa is better for elites?

    Because it means the end of any pretense at democracy. They will be able to do whatever they want to do at any time. Occassionally there will be a riot in a distant ghetto. No Farages, no Brexits, no town hall meetings. Also maximizing labor flexibility and making many other resources available; also essentially grabbing everything now held by the middle class.

    >I think they’re just stupid

    Yeah they accidentally stumbled across this, every year for my lifetime. They’re very clumsy. Funny thing that random chance, always delivering programmatic results and eliminating opponents with coordinated attacks.

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  194. @Corvinus
    "Well, men from a certain non-European part of the globe……"

    No, from men period, regardless of where they originate.

    There were sexual grooming gang scandals before the Pakistani’s arrived?

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    This is just old-fashioned white slavery, which used to be a big problem across Europe before WWII.
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  195. @grapesoda
    You must have a very low opinion of women if you think they're not responsible for their words, actions, voting patterns, or political views. You're basically saying women are equivalent to animals or children in terms of moral agency.

    You must have a very low opinion of women if you think they’re not responsible for their words, actions, voting patterns, or political views. You’re basically saying women are equivalent to animals or children in terms of moral agency.

    You’ve got the red pill in your mouth … can you swallow it?

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  196. @TheBoom
    Whites need to quit worrying about white women and girls being raped by Muslims. White females see concern over the issue as a sign of Islamophobia. You can see that in their voting patterns, how young white women are the first to defend Muslims online regarding rape and and acid attacks and the way white women lead efforts to import Muslims into Europe and cover up the rapes. The only time most European women are against rape is when a white man, real or imagined, was the rapist. As Lilly Allen stated, the report of a million UK girls being raped by Muslims is no big deal because white men would have raped them anyway. Preventing the rape of White women by Muslims is seen by most white females as a hate crime. White women are willing to destroy your life if you try and reduce Muslim rape.

    Care to back any of that up with some evidence? (Pictures of a few girls with “refugees welcome” signs are not evidence BTW.)

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  197. @Fredrik
    What do you think upset the people of Telford the most? This story or the Polish plumber down the street?

    It's the latter. By far.

    The MSM push the latter (while claiming not to) but in normal everyday life talking to regular people you hear little complaint about Poles, plumbers or otherwise. The animus toward Muslims and other enrichers otoh, that’s bubbling ever stronger below the surface. And Poles are pretty forthright about their thoughts on Muslims btw. Many of them are pretty woke on the JQ and commies as well.

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  198. @J.Ross
    Other way around, black clergy are celibate monks.
    https://elliotsreading.blogspot.com/2012/07/extreme-chekhov-black-monk.html

    Thanks for the correction.

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  199. @Whiskey
    He's onto something. If women are not dominated by White men they will choose other men to dominate them and will defend them.

    The only way out is ruthless domination at all levels. Fear not live as Machiavelli advised. Stop pedestalizing women and treat them as the strategic objective they are.

    Women are the schwepunkt the decisive hinge of battle. Control them control society. We need a nation if feared men not high iq

    I can’t believe you blowhards still won’t shut up after 2016. Round-the-clock anti-Trump propaganda from a hostile media still didn’t prevent White women from voting for a “racist” and a “Nazi” right along with the men.

    Granted, men seem to be a little more resistant to egalitarian propaganda than women. Given the outsized role of men in bringing non-White cheap labor into the West, I’d say we’re even Stephen.

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  200. @Chrisnonymous
    You're attributing the worst to priests. I suspect most of them went into the priesthood with good intentions, perhaps trying to avoid homosexual or pedophilic tendencies. Although they need to be kept away from children, many abuser priests may be sympathetic on some level.

    Female teachers who sleep with teenage boys should be fired, but not prosecuted. They are entirely unsympathetic as people and inappropriate to have in the school system. But they haven't really done damage to anyone except themselves and their families.

    Perhaps, but you could just as easily say that the teachers had good intentions, and just succumbed to nympho tendencies.

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  201. @Whiskey
    It appears the media and govt response applauded by upper class White women is to grovel before Muslims and forbid any criticism.

    No end to the ways upper class White women are the enemy of the working class.

    Upper class women are not being pimped out and raped

    Right like outsourcing all their jobs. Oh wait nevermind that was men.

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  202. @J.Ross
    Women in an Ivy League school in America and women in a family compound in an explicitly Muslim state have slightly different resources available to them. There is nothing dishonest about accepting one claim as likely and throwing out another as preposterous. Although I would expect that Lahore would be significantly better than rural areas.
    By the way, they are attempting something called "Mosque Me Too," about getting raped in Mecca on the Hajj. Surely this will end well.

    Both statements are probably true, depending on the definition of rape.
    Broad definitions of rape are not necessarily frivolous or vindictive BTW. They’re just impractical.

    I suspect rape (defined as women feeling intimidated into sex) is becoming more common with people like Taharoosh coaching men on how to walk right up to the line while not technically crossing it.

    Eventually, this will render unsupervised courtship (and therefore the love match) effectively impossible. Since you cannot have loving companionship and brutal domination at the same time, I suspect this would be not only acceptable but even ideal to the knuckle-dragger faction of the dissident Right.

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  203. @Eagle Eye

    Nietzsche spake of a “values reverse”:
    We’d esteem the obscene and perverse.
    In England, it’s here:
    There is nothing too queer.
    King Richard should cry for a hearse.

     

    Extra points for "spake."

    “…still govern thou my song
    Urania! and fit audience find, though few.

    Paradise Lost, Book VII

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  204. @anon
    But stronger anti-Christian theme.

    That was my next point about Monty Python….But you made it…

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  205. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5493247/Father-murdered-Lucy-Lowe-told-careful-threat.html

    Father of murdered Telford teenager Lucy Lowe is told to ‘be careful’ in a chilling threat sent after he spoke out about his fears his daughter was groomed

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  206. @rogue-one
    >Janglee probably means Jungle.

    Janglee can mean:

    1. Wild

    2. Inhabitant of a forest.

    3. Uncivilized.

    In South Asian culture (my father's), janglee people usually refers to tribes who were outside civilization and have only recently entered civilization.

    Yeah, if you wanted to bring migrants from South Asia, you couldn't do worse than picking up Mirpuris.


    (On a side note, the word "thug" also comes from some robber tribes in India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee)

    > (On a side note, the word “thug” also comes from some robber tribes in India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee)

    Of all the great things the British did in India, one of the greatest was that they deliberately and systematically wiped out the thuggees.

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  207. @Corvinus
    "Well, men from a certain non-European part of the globe……"

    No, from men period, regardless of where they originate.

    No, from men period, regardless of where they originate.

    It doesn’t matter how many times you wish for egalitarianism in criminality. Race, religion & ethnicity are huge factors.

    Look at the data on rape in Sweden. It rises is tandem with increasing 3rd world immigration.
    Why do Poland, Iceland and Hungary not have these rape gangs?

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    "Look at the data on rape in Sweden. It rises is tandem with increasing 3rd world immigration."

    Yes, let's look at the data.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/crime-sweden-rape-capital-europe/
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  208. @Anonymous
    If they are having sex with boys under the age of consent, they are breaking the law and should be prosecuted, even though the victims are not very harmed by the practice. Any woman if not repulsive, smelly, diseased or very elderly can get all she wants with men of legal age.

    If they are having sex with boys under the age of consent, they are breaking the law and should be prosecuted…

    A major problem with this is that we stupidly insist on the same age of consent for everybody.

    But man-on-girl, woman-on-boy, man-on-boy, and woman-on-girl are four very different acts and need to be seen and dealt with differently. The latter two are inherently perverse and should only be tolerated among those old enough to drink. The first is a disaster for the girl, her family, and the community. The second is a joke, which is why we joke about it. A sin, to be sure, but it hardly rises to a crime. Shame her out of town, but don’t jail her.

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    I say it depends on how hot she is. It's a well-known fact that super hot people are not technically capable of rape.
    , @Corvinus
    "A major problem with this is that we stupidly insist on the same age of consent for everybody."

    It's definitively a problem for YOU, but not the majority of society. You are the outlier here. Each society can decide what it deems is the appropriate age of consent.

    "But man-on-girl, woman-on-boy, man-on-boy, and woman-on-girl are four very different acts and need to be seen and dealt with differently."

    The actors involved are different, but NOT the act. Again, you are the outlier here.
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  209. @Corvinus
    "Well, men from a certain non-European part of the globe……"

    No, from men period, regardless of where they originate.

    Well, men from a certain non-European part of the globe……”

    No, from men period, regardless of where they originate.

    Really? The story out of Telford indicates that the men in question come from outside of Europe……

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    Also they're cousins.
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  210. @Steve Sailer
    It like Somalis must be relocated to Minneapolis because Africa is too tiny to accommodate them.

    Saviors gotta save, and it’s just so much more convenient to keep the recipients of your grace close at hand.

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  211. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    During out conversion classes, the priests calmly explained, volunteered, should say, that ever since the '70's, roughly about 45% of the total number of priests in the US have been gay. They quoted from a former priest now psychologist who made the survey and collected information over a few decades.

    When in a hole, best to stop digging.

    "Expect married priests before the current “pope” is finished, followed soon after by married gay priests."

    Who but a Roman Catholic would equate married priests with gay married priests? In other words, while technically its not a mortal (or even a venial) sin for priests to marry (certain Catholic rites, e.g. Byzantine, permit priests to marry), in the Catholic mind the idea that priests should dare to participate in the sacrament of marriage or holy matrimony, is an abomination.

    And this isn't a new thing. Sir Thomas More went apesh*! over Martin Luther daring to leave the monastery to get married.

    It's okay for clergymen to have prostitutes, participate in orgies, even frequent the gay scene, etc. but to actually participate in marriage? Horrors!

    FACT: For the first thousand yrs of its history, the Catholic Church permitted their priests to marry. Even today, it isn't a dogma that they cannot get married and the Pope could as stated, could issue a decree rescinding the discipline and permit priests to marry.

    That would certainly help to go a long way to increasing the number of priests in the US and rest of the Western World.

    Or the alternative is to import more and more priests from Africa, India, South America.

    Why not just let priests get married? What is the hangup vs. Holy Matrimony for clergymen (when for over a thousand yrs the Church permitted it).

    The rule is:
    Married men may be ordained deacon and priest.
    No deacon or priest may marry.

    I’m Byzantine Catholic, so I have no problem with a married clergy. But it is certainly not the tradition of the Latin church, although the Latin church does have a small minority of married convert clergy and a not insignificant number of married deacons.

    A married clergy really doesn’t do much to solve the vocations crisis, as most of the Orthodox churches in the U.S.–with their married clergy–also suffer from a lack of clergy.

    Also a married clergy is hugely more expensive than a celibate one and Catholics are stingy with their donations.

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  212. @syonredux

    Well, men from a certain non-European part of the globe……”

    No, from men period, regardless of where they originate.
     
    Really? The story out of Telford indicates that the men in question come from outside of Europe......


    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/28/09/42C3830200000578-0-image-a-17_1501232357165.jpg

    Also they’re cousins.

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  213. @epochehusserl
    There were sexual grooming gang scandals before the Pakistani's arrived?

    This is just old-fashioned white slavery, which used to be a big problem across Europe before WWII.

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  214. @Charles Pewitt

    The UK is gone. All of Western Europe is. Nothing to be done about it now, except use it as a cautionary tale and hope for the best for what remains of the West.

     

    Brittany Pettibone has the fighting spirit needed at this time:

    https://twitter.com/BrittPettibone/status/971347342103318532

    Based on current trends, the European country which is most likely to be overrun by Muslims is Belgium. Progressive Sweden is the favourite whipping boy of right-wing doomsayers but it still has a relatively small Muslim population and the government is cutting back on refugee quotas.

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    Rather ironic, since Brussels hosts the rabidly anti-white EU headquarters.
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  215. @Charles Pewitt
    https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/973328229309341696

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  216. @Charles Pewitt
    https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/973468957888929792

    a bigger public discussion

    Isn’t it past the point for a “discussion”? — try public hangings — first hang the rapists/abusers, then those in officialdom who allowed it to go on — since it’s clear it was allowed to go on.

    Anger as members of Rochdale grooming gang get legal aid to fight deportation… after already receiving £1m to unsuccessfully defend their criminal charges

    Followed by anyone involved in the above.

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    I agree. This whole thread makes my blood boil.

    Something has to be done, ultimately. But what to do and how to do it? For ordinary citizens to do something along the lines you say, they either need to be ok with their own death as a result (suicidal), or other citizens including the police and the military, when it's called in, have to be willing to see it as a partisan issue and do nothing. And more than the non-white actors in this issue, the traitors who have allowed this to happen, the decision makers in the government, the press, the police.

    How to get to that point (other than for the suicidal)? I think that's where the discussion comes in. Do we need to constantly write letters to our local newspapers? To our politicians?
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    @YetAnotherAnon
    "though it’s of ancient provenance"

    There was no place called 'Telford' before the 1960s. There was a small town called Wellington.

    The new town was named after this guy, another of the great Scottish engineers, designer of many bridges still in daily use nearly 200 years later.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Telford

    There was a Telford Hotel somewhere in Florida that was a big resort in the early 1900s that had several presidents of the early 1900s stay there. It survived in somewhat dilapidated form until the late 1900s, at which time it was bought by a guy named Chuck Harder, who ran a syndicated radio show that was a sort of precursor to Fart Smell’s Coast-to-Coast AM. Harder, a neopopulist who endorsed all sorts of whacky theories, (we called him ” Harder-Than-Your-Husband” after the Zappa song) had a fair bit of popularity in the late 1980s as I recall.

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    Telford, Pa
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  218. @Anonymous
    One choice bit of English slang is 'love truncheon' - truncheon being the official term for the nightsticks that British police habitually carry in lieu of pistols - as yet another humorous simile for the 'membrum virile'.

    Thanks to the fiercer (albeit waning) protections of our fundamental freedoms in F.U.S.A., we of course instead have love guns.

    Thanks; I’m here all week. Please tip your waitresses.

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  219. @for-the-record
    The article is of course written in an extraordinarily discreet fashion, so if you didn't know that certain immigrant groups had a propensity to do these things, you certainly won't be any better informed after reading the article.

    No mention of Pakistanis, the only mention of "Asian" is remarkably obtuse:

    It is also claimed that abused and trafficked children were considered "prostitutes" by council staff, that authorities did not keep details of abusers from Asian communities for fear of being accused of "racism" and that police failed to investigate one recent case five times until an MP intervened.
     
    I had my wife read the article, she doesn't follow UK news, and then asked her who she thought the perpetrators were. She had no idea, she assumed that it must all have taken place in a school or orphanage and it never occurred to her that the perpetrators weren't "English".

    I think it’s pretty widely accepted that “Asians” when used in the media reports of crime in the UK refers to Pakis Or Indian Muslims . Just like “youths” or “teens” are used in the US media to avoid calling a spade a spade . Not even the most dedicated Prog can suppress that nanosecond of reality before their conditioning takes over .

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    Yep, that's the plan, up until that horrible, blessed day when we run out of wypipo.
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  221. @unpc downunder
    Based on current trends, the European country which is most likely to be overrun by Muslims is Belgium. Progressive Sweden is the favourite whipping boy of right-wing doomsayers but it still has a relatively small Muslim population and the government is cutting back on refugee quotas.

    Rather ironic, since Brussels hosts the rabidly anti-white EU headquarters.

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  222. @AndrewR
    Will the Irish nationalists oppose this, or are they merely opposed to British Protestants in Ireland?

    There are tens of millions of people around the world descended from the Irish. Why not recruit them?

    The Project 2040 scheme – mass immigration amounting to 20% of Ireland’s population – is crazy. The damage that the same process has done to other European countries is plain to see.

    Ireland had a long struggle for independence from Britain. Now its politicians want to achieve independence from Ireland.

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    This is a problem with parliamentary democracy. Fianna Fáil has been out of power for years, having been associated with the Bank bailouts after the financial collapse. Fine Gael as a party put Leo Varadhkar forward as PM.
    He is the gay son of an Indian doctor and an Irish woman.
    Neither party is remotely conservative, but Fianna Fáil was always seen as the party of the common man, rightly or wrongly.
    Fine Gael is more like Tony Blair’s new labor, with a seething contempt for rural people and the vestiges of old Ireland.
    It’s tragic.
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  223. @anon

    The safe bet is that this is pretty much of a nationwide disgrace due to Diversity Worship.
     
    From Wikipedia:

    Telford's population is predominantly White, comprising 93.8% of the population. The next largest ethnic group is those of Asian descent, comprising 3.3% of the population, which is again less than the West Midlands at 8.0%, and England at 5.3%.
     
    So, the thing is, it isn't even really very diverse at all. There are a lot of bad apples in this fairly small barrel. The lesson here, apparently, is that it doesn't take very many "Asians" at all for them to set up these gangs and start raping everybody.

    Telford’s population is predominantly White, comprising 93.8% of the population. The next largest ethnic group is those of Asian descent, comprising 3.3% of the population, which is again less than the West Midlands at 8.0%, and England at 5.3%.

    If Rotherham is any guide, child rapists will form a few percent of the male Muslim population. This is obviously a small minority, but probably amounts to 100 times the prevalence of such crimes among the native population.

    This paradox allows SJWs to say “90% of Muslims are innocent. What is your problem? Are you racist or something?” Thus they allow themselves to ignore a hundred-fold differential in the propensity for serious crime: not only child abuse, but also spree killings and bombings with a political, religious, or tribal motivation. The latter might be called “hate crimes”, the category that SJWs pretend to oppose most of all.

    You can be sure that, if gangs of white men had been systematically abusing thousands of immigrant children, it would not have been covered up for so long.

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    Yes, but see, your reasoning is too complex and most people. It's so much simpler just to blame everything bad in the world on white males. If you will just try to watch more TV and Movies, you too can "think" like a diminutive duckling.
    , @Rosie
    Curiously, the effect on the native population is ignored. Victims, direct and indirect, outnumber criminals many times over. One single drug dealer can clear out a whole neighborhood, as innocents move to avoid theft, home invasions, filth, or even the possibility of their own children becoming ensnared. I would imagine grooming has similar outsized effects on individuals. This is a massive weak point in the official narrative, which holds that forcing people to move is a crime against humanity.

    Then you have the effects on society as a whole. Police must militarize or lose control. Not wanting to concede failure, they default to the latter. The former entails a "fundamental transformation" of society, which is exactly what we were promised would never be necessary, since we're all the same under the skin.
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  224. @Daniel H
    >> It appears the UK absolutely had to build a dam in Pakistan.

    Why did the British "absolutely" have to build a dam in a foreign country? Why did the British have to agree that displaced villagers and farmers be resettled in Britain? This compulsion to act on the interests of foreign governments is a problem all over the west. It is one reason that I don't want to see the Koreas reunited. If the border came down tomorrow, South Korea would be flooded with migrants from the north (not our problem or concern) and the South Koreans would demand that the US take in 100s of thousands of such migrants, and only Donald Trump as President would tell the Koreans to go stuff it.

    >> It appears the UK absolutely had to build a dam in Pakistan.

    Why did the British “absolutely” have to build a dam in a foreign country? Why did the British have to agree that displaced villagers and farmers be resettled in Britain?

    Privatize the profits (to the construction companies); socialize the losses (to the British public, in perpetuity).

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  225. @rogue-one
    >The ruling class of England wants to demographically deconstruct England so as to make it a deracinated zone suitable for plutocrat plundering.


    How would transforming England into Pakistan or South Africa is better for elites? Would they be comfortably shielded from Pakistani or African demagogues? I assume they can send their kids to better schools but wouldn't their children be victims of assault on the tube or on streets? Wouldn't a lack of social trust destroy all that which makes life pleasant, both for masses and for elites? Wouldn't some Zuma take away their wealth?

    Rather, I think the elites have their heads up their asses. To confront the problem, they must admit that their policies for last 30 years were wrong. And they don't want to do that.

    There is no inner party, just a bunch of careerist morons.

    How would transforming England into Pakistan or South Africa is better for elites?

    In a democracy, the ruling classes are afraid of the organised masses – who might vote them out of office. They also despise the native underclass, even though they are responsible for creating it. Thus they prefer a racially mixed population, and they have a particular liking for minorities with a tendency towards underachievement and deviancy.

    On top of the usual reasons for immigration – to depress wages (for Conservatives) and provide voters (for Labour) – the proposition is irresistible.

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  226. @Corvinus
    "The safe bet is that this is pretty much of a nationwide disgrace due to Diversity Worship."

    No, Mr. Sailer, the safe bet is that this nationwide disgrace is due to sexual deviancy by men.

    No, Mr. Sailer, the safe bet is that this nationwide disgrace is due to sexual deviancy by men.

    All men are rapists, but some are more rapist than others.

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    "All men are rapists, but some are more rapist than others."

    You're right, just ask the tribal groups of the Western Hemisphere. "Where those Indian (feather, not dot) women at" was the battle cry of Europeans. Or, just ask Eastern Europeans with their proclivity for sex trafficking.

    "This is obviously a small minority, but probably amounts to 100 times the prevalence of such crimes among the native population."

    Yes, it's the old "raw numbers versus percentages" argument. I say just focus on the evils of rape regardless of who committed it.
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  227. @rogue-one
    >An obstacle to dam construction was the local people, Mirpuris, needed to be relocated. It is not clear why a location in Pakistan was unavailable, but to keep the project going the Mirpuris were relocated to the UK.

    This is almost unbelievable. How could it be easier to relocate people from Pakistan to UK than within Pakistan?

    Sometimes I wonder, in a China led future in 2150, whether their historians will even believe these stories. Wouldn't they consider these stories to be too crazy to be true?

    Sometimes I wonder, in a China led future in 2150, whether their historians will even believe these stories. Wouldn’t they consider these stories to be too crazy to be true?

    The Chinese right now must be wondering how nations that once ruled a large portion of the globe could become so stupid so quickly.

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    One huge advantage the Chinese have that we don't is that jews don't look oriental.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    The Chinese right now must be wondering how nations that once ruled a large portion of the globe could become so stupid so quickly.

     

    Are these the same Chinese who threw away a two-thousand-plus year monarchical tradition, and equally ancient philosophical and cultural ways, and replaced them with the local version of the rantings of a drooling syphilitic exiled in London?
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  228. @James N. Kennett
    The Project 2040 scheme - mass immigration amounting to 20% of Ireland's population - is crazy. The damage that the same process has done to other European countries is plain to see.

    Ireland had a long struggle for independence from Britain. Now its politicians want to achieve independence from Ireland.

    This is a problem with parliamentary democracy. Fianna Fáil has been out of power for years, having been associated with the Bank bailouts after the financial collapse. Fine Gael as a party put Leo Varadhkar forward as PM.
    He is the gay son of an Indian doctor and an Irish woman.
    Neither party is remotely conservative, but Fianna Fáil was always seen as the party of the common man, rightly or wrongly.
    Fine Gael is more like Tony Blair’s new labor, with a seething contempt for rural people and the vestiges of old Ireland.
    It’s tragic.

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  229. @James N. Kennett

    Telford’s population is predominantly White, comprising 93.8% of the population. The next largest ethnic group is those of Asian descent, comprising 3.3% of the population, which is again less than the West Midlands at 8.0%, and England at 5.3%.
     
    If Rotherham is any guide, child rapists will form a few percent of the male Muslim population. This is obviously a small minority, but probably amounts to 100 times the prevalence of such crimes among the native population.

    This paradox allows SJWs to say "90% of Muslims are innocent. What is your problem? Are you racist or something?" Thus they allow themselves to ignore a hundred-fold differential in the propensity for serious crime: not only child abuse, but also spree killings and bombings with a political, religious, or tribal motivation. The latter might be called "hate crimes", the category that SJWs pretend to oppose most of all.

    You can be sure that, if gangs of white men had been systematically abusing thousands of immigrant children, it would not have been covered up for so long.

    Yes, but see, your reasoning is too complex and most people. It’s so much simpler just to blame everything bad in the world on white males. If you will just try to watch more TV and Movies, you too can “think” like a diminutive duckling.

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  230. @Reg Cæsar

    If they are having sex with boys under the age of consent, they are breaking the law and should be prosecuted...
     
    A major problem with this is that we stupidly insist on the same age of consent for everybody.

    But man-on-girl, woman-on-boy, man-on-boy, and woman-on-girl are four very different acts and need to be seen and dealt with differently. The latter two are inherently perverse and should only be tolerated among those old enough to drink. The first is a disaster for the girl, her family, and the community. The second is a joke, which is why we joke about it. A sin, to be sure, but it hardly rises to a crime. Shame her out of town, but don't jail her.

    I say it depends on how hot she is. It’s a well-known fact that super hot people are not technically capable of rape.

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  231. @eah
    I don't know if it'll do that

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYOvm17W4AAxtLs.jpg

    Yep, that’s the plan, up until that horrible, blessed day when we run out of wypipo.

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  232. @eah
    due to Diversity Worship

    The BBC is really corrupt -- I had to use the search box on the BBC news web site to find a story about this, which was otherwise well hidden.

    A de-industrialization comparable to the 'Rust Belt' combined with a 'benefits' culture has produced a British underclass that is deeply despised by the ruling elite, the same ruling elite who presided over the de-industrialization and via a socialist consensus introduced the 'benefits' culture in the first place -- add to that an active tabloid press that sensationalizes the worst examples of the underclass -- these sexually brutalized girls came from the despised white underclass.

    https://twitter.com/AlfredAlbion/status/973045349056212995

    TELFORD GIRLS: THE WRONG KIND OF VICTIMS

    The #MeToo set’s silence on the rape of working-class girls is deafening…Perhaps the women of Telford are simply the wrong kind of victim…Or perhaps the Asian men accused of grooming, rape, drug-dealing, murder and paedophilia are simply the wrong kind of perpetrator. #MeToo prefers the accused to be powerful white men:…

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  233. @Chrisnonymous

    a nationwide disgrace due to Diversity Worship
     
    Wow. Forty comments in, and Jonathan Mason hasn't written in to explain how child abuse is as English as Shakespeare and the girls all lower-class sluts and whores anyhow.

    Wow. Forty comments in, and Jonathan Mason hasn’t written in to explain how child abuse is as English as Shakespeare and the girls all lower-class sluts and whores anyhow.

    Thanks for providing a link to my piece about Rotherham. I looked through it again in the light of your criticisms, but I didn’t really see anything that I would change.

    I have read parts of the Jay Report, perhaps not in as much detail as you, but it seems to me to be largely a rehashing of what was already in other reports, a few sensational anecdotes, and a retooling of the narrative to use highly emotive language. I still think the number of 1400 victims is just a speculative number, probably exaggerated for effect.

    Am I glad that members of the Pakistani family at the center of some specific allegations have been locked up? Yes.

    By the way, have you even been to Rotherham? I grew up not too far from Rotherham, and although I have only ever been there a couple of times, I am very familiar with similar milieus in South Yorkshire, and North Lancashire mill towns like Blackburn and Burnley, and lived for some time when I was an impoverished student in the red light districts of the West Riding. I am also very familiar with Keighley which had a similar child sex scandal, as my sister works at the hospital there.

    The stories told by some of the Rotherham girls do not seem to qualitatively differ very much from the kind of things I still regularly hear today from women who grew up in the gulag of trailer parks here in Florida and all over the New South. Mothers on drugs, sexually abused by stepfathers and neighbors, started taking drugs early themselves, etc.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

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    Having trouble seeing how this is relevant even if true. It's one thing to tolerate your own dysfunctional family members. It's quite another to deliberately import even more.
    , @syonredux

    The stories told by some of the Rotherham girls do not seem to qualitatively differ very much from the kind of things I still regularly hear today from women who grew up in the gulag of trailer parks here in Florida and all over the New South. Mothers on drugs, sexually abused by stepfathers and neighbors, started taking drugs early themselves, etc.
     
    Except that the Muslims running the "grooming" (such a polite euphemism) gangs in the UK enjoy special status due to PC attitudes. Just yesterday, a White British feminist colleague told me that she was uncomfortable talking about the the Telford situation.....you know, what with the optics (South Asian men raping European girls)....
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  234. @James N. Kennett

    Telford’s population is predominantly White, comprising 93.8% of the population. The next largest ethnic group is those of Asian descent, comprising 3.3% of the population, which is again less than the West Midlands at 8.0%, and England at 5.3%.
     
    If Rotherham is any guide, child rapists will form a few percent of the male Muslim population. This is obviously a small minority, but probably amounts to 100 times the prevalence of such crimes among the native population.

    This paradox allows SJWs to say "90% of Muslims are innocent. What is your problem? Are you racist or something?" Thus they allow themselves to ignore a hundred-fold differential in the propensity for serious crime: not only child abuse, but also spree killings and bombings with a political, religious, or tribal motivation. The latter might be called "hate crimes", the category that SJWs pretend to oppose most of all.

    You can be sure that, if gangs of white men had been systematically abusing thousands of immigrant children, it would not have been covered up for so long.

    Curiously, the effect on the native population is ignored. Victims, direct and indirect, outnumber criminals many times over. One single drug dealer can clear out a whole neighborhood, as innocents move to avoid theft, home invasions, filth, or even the possibility of their own children becoming ensnared. I would imagine grooming has similar outsized effects on individuals. This is a massive weak point in the official narrative, which holds that forcing people to move is a crime against humanity.

    Then you have the effects on society as a whole. Police must militarize or lose control. Not wanting to concede failure, they default to the latter. The former entails a “fundamental transformation” of society, which is exactly what we were promised would never be necessary, since we’re all the same under the skin.

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  235. @Corvinus
    "The safe bet is that this is pretty much of a nationwide disgrace due to Diversity Worship."

    No, Mr. Sailer, the safe bet is that this nationwide disgrace is due to sexual deviancy by men.

    Oh Christ. Could you possibly be more tediously mendacious?

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  236. @rogue-one
    >The ruling class of England wants to demographically deconstruct England so as to make it a deracinated zone suitable for plutocrat plundering.


    How would transforming England into Pakistan or South Africa is better for elites? Would they be comfortably shielded from Pakistani or African demagogues? I assume they can send their kids to better schools but wouldn't their children be victims of assault on the tube or on streets? Wouldn't a lack of social trust destroy all that which makes life pleasant, both for masses and for elites? Wouldn't some Zuma take away their wealth?

    Rather, I think the elites have their heads up their asses. To confront the problem, they must admit that their policies for last 30 years were wrong. And they don't want to do that.

    There is no inner party, just a bunch of careerist morons.

    You make the fundamental error of thinking of “our” elites as rooted in the nation, with an interest in its long-term survival and prosperity. They do not care about this at all. They see themselves as outsiders, and they use our tax dollars to secure their refuge from the misery to come.

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  237. @Jonathan Mason

    Wow. Forty comments in, and Jonathan Mason hasn’t written in to explain how child abuse is as English as Shakespeare and the girls all lower-class sluts and whores anyhow.
     
    Thanks for providing a link to my piece about Rotherham. I looked through it again in the light of your criticisms, but I didn't really see anything that I would change.

    I have read parts of the Jay Report, perhaps not in as much detail as you, but it seems to me to be largely a rehashing of what was already in other reports, a few sensational anecdotes, and a retooling of the narrative to use highly emotive language. I still think the number of 1400 victims is just a speculative number, probably exaggerated for effect.

    Am I glad that members of the Pakistani family at the center of some specific allegations have been locked up? Yes.

    By the way, have you even been to Rotherham? I grew up not too far from Rotherham, and although I have only ever been there a couple of times, I am very familiar with similar milieus in South Yorkshire, and North Lancashire mill towns like Blackburn and Burnley, and lived for some time when I was an impoverished student in the red light districts of the West Riding. I am also very familiar with Keighley which had a similar child sex scandal, as my sister works at the hospital there.

    The stories told by some of the Rotherham girls do not seem to qualitatively differ very much from the kind of things I still regularly hear today from women who grew up in the gulag of trailer parks here in Florida and all over the New South. Mothers on drugs, sexually abused by stepfathers and neighbors, started taking drugs early themselves, etc.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

    Having trouble seeing how this is relevant even if true. It’s one thing to tolerate your own dysfunctional family members. It’s quite another to deliberately import even more.

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  238. @rogue-one
    >An obstacle to dam construction was the local people, Mirpuris, needed to be relocated. It is not clear why a location in Pakistan was unavailable, but to keep the project going the Mirpuris were relocated to the UK.

    This is almost unbelievable. How could it be easier to relocate people from Pakistan to UK than within Pakistan?

    Sometimes I wonder, in a China led future in 2150, whether their historians will even believe these stories. Wouldn't they consider these stories to be too crazy to be true?

    How could it be easier to relocate people from Pakistan to UK than within Pakistan?

    I think part of the answer is there was a crisis of vacant real estate in Europe. Third world immigrants solved the problem. If you owned a vacant building you would have had an intense interest in finding renters, any renters. In UK politics, local MPs were probably a source of political pressure to occupy the vacant buildings in their constituencies. Immigrants kept their constituencies from being eliminated altogether. The same thing happened with the Great Migration from the US South to Northern cities. It’s hard to explain exactly why it was a good idea.

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    Sorry, but in England, at least, that can't be true.

    England is, and has always been, chronically short of housing.
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  239. @James N. Kennett

    No, Mr. Sailer, the safe bet is that this nationwide disgrace is due to sexual deviancy by men.
     
    All men are rapists, but some are more rapist than others.

    “All men are rapists, but some are more rapist than others.”

    You’re right, just ask the tribal groups of the Western Hemisphere. “Where those Indian (feather, not dot) women at” was the battle cry of Europeans. Or, just ask Eastern Europeans with their proclivity for sex trafficking.

    “This is obviously a small minority, but probably amounts to 100 times the prevalence of such crimes among the native population.”

    Yes, it’s the old “raw numbers versus percentages” argument. I say just focus on the evils of rape regardless of who committed it.

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    No. Rape by an outgroup is not only an outrage against the victim, it is also an outrage against the genetic interests of the men (and the women) of the native tribe. Outgroup rape creates a fitness imperative to crack down on women's freedom of movement in ways that wouldn't be necessary in a homogeneous society.
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  240. @CrunchybutRealistCon

    No, from men period, regardless of where they originate.
     
    It doesn't matter how many times you wish for egalitarianism in criminality. Race, religion & ethnicity are huge factors.

    Look at the data on rape in Sweden. It rises is tandem with increasing 3rd world immigration.
    Why do Poland, Iceland and Hungary not have these rape gangs?

    “Look at the data on rape in Sweden. It rises is tandem with increasing 3rd world immigration.”

    Yes, let’s look at the data.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/crime-sweden-rape-capital-europe/

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    Pretty much everyone’s on to the Snopes racket by now.
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  241. @rogue-one
    >The ruling class of England wants to demographically deconstruct England so as to make it a deracinated zone suitable for plutocrat plundering.


    How would transforming England into Pakistan or South Africa is better for elites? Would they be comfortably shielded from Pakistani or African demagogues? I assume they can send their kids to better schools but wouldn't their children be victims of assault on the tube or on streets? Wouldn't a lack of social trust destroy all that which makes life pleasant, both for masses and for elites? Wouldn't some Zuma take away their wealth?

    Rather, I think the elites have their heads up their asses. To confront the problem, they must admit that their policies for last 30 years were wrong. And they don't want to do that.

    There is no inner party, just a bunch of careerist morons.

    “How would transforming England into Pakistan or South Africa is better for elites? ”

    When Enoch ‘Rivers of Blood’ Powell was actually in power he was tasked with shoring up the new National Health Service. He is the one who brought the first mass Caribean immigration to the UK. There was no grand conspiracy, just people like Powell trying to get more done with less funding.

    Japan may have been so destroyed after the war, immigration was not an option as it was in more or less intact UK. Japan did not have vacant cities to stuff immigrants into as they were all firebombed or even nuked. Japan’s only choice was internal. Also, the US occupation government of Japan may not have thought immigration was a good idea, or even thought about bringing millions of non Japanese to Japan to solve a cheap labor problem.

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    That story isn't actually true.
    It's an old canard designed to (sorry) blacken Powell's reputation.
    Whatever else Powell might have been, he was a deeply honest and scrupulous MSN.
    If there was *any* truth in that canard, whatsoever, Powell or at least a a Powell critic would have seriously documented it.
    He didn't and they haven't.

    The only nugget of truth is Powell was Secretary of State for Health.
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  242. Seems the media really wants to suffocate this story in its cradle.

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  243. @Clyde
    The English are not very perturbed by all this Pakistani rape, pimping out and drugging of English girls and teens. Some say it is a class matter where these young females are looked upon as trash, so the police, the social workers, the hack politicians, none cared or care. A very disgusting situation to have your young native females assaulted and ruined by foreigners you let in. Who immigrate purely for economic reasons...and now rape too.

    The English are not very perturbed by all this Pakistani rape, pimping out and drugging of English girls and teens.

    Many postmodernist types, including my own brother, are in this category, but trust me, many of us English are more than a little miffed.

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  244. @James N. Kennett

    Sometimes I wonder, in a China led future in 2150, whether their historians will even believe these stories. Wouldn’t they consider these stories to be too crazy to be true?
     
    The Chinese right now must be wondering how nations that once ruled a large portion of the globe could become so stupid so quickly.

    One huge advantage the Chinese have that we don’t is that jews don’t look oriental.

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  245. @Jonathan Mason

    Wow. Forty comments in, and Jonathan Mason hasn’t written in to explain how child abuse is as English as Shakespeare and the girls all lower-class sluts and whores anyhow.
     
    Thanks for providing a link to my piece about Rotherham. I looked through it again in the light of your criticisms, but I didn't really see anything that I would change.

    I have read parts of the Jay Report, perhaps not in as much detail as you, but it seems to me to be largely a rehashing of what was already in other reports, a few sensational anecdotes, and a retooling of the narrative to use highly emotive language. I still think the number of 1400 victims is just a speculative number, probably exaggerated for effect.

    Am I glad that members of the Pakistani family at the center of some specific allegations have been locked up? Yes.

    By the way, have you even been to Rotherham? I grew up not too far from Rotherham, and although I have only ever been there a couple of times, I am very familiar with similar milieus in South Yorkshire, and North Lancashire mill towns like Blackburn and Burnley, and lived for some time when I was an impoverished student in the red light districts of the West Riding. I am also very familiar with Keighley which had a similar child sex scandal, as my sister works at the hospital there.

    The stories told by some of the Rotherham girls do not seem to qualitatively differ very much from the kind of things I still regularly hear today from women who grew up in the gulag of trailer parks here in Florida and all over the New South. Mothers on drugs, sexually abused by stepfathers and neighbors, started taking drugs early themselves, etc.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

    The stories told by some of the Rotherham girls do not seem to qualitatively differ very much from the kind of things I still regularly hear today from women who grew up in the gulag of trailer parks here in Florida and all over the New South. Mothers on drugs, sexually abused by stepfathers and neighbors, started taking drugs early themselves, etc.

    Except that the Muslims running the “grooming” (such a polite euphemism) gangs in the UK enjoy special status due to PC attitudes. Just yesterday, a White British feminist colleague told me that she was uncomfortable talking about the the Telford situation…..you know, what with the optics (South Asian men raping European girls)….

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  246. Let’s note, before this gets too stale and for the benefit of a substantial number of us here who like piss on the rootless cosmopolitans and make profound statements about the JQ, that Israel doesn’t have any Rotherhams or anything of the sort. And furthermore, that Israel doesn’t seem to have problems with the leadership of Donald Trump either. If you’ve had to deal with the bluster and bullshit of Yasser Arafat for 40 years, Donald Trump might not be that bad by comparison.

    The difference in outlook between someone like Harvey Weinstein and someone like Bibi Netanyahu is such that the joke is on us if we try and group them together.

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  247. @Reg Cæsar

    If they are having sex with boys under the age of consent, they are breaking the law and should be prosecuted...
     
    A major problem with this is that we stupidly insist on the same age of consent for everybody.

    But man-on-girl, woman-on-boy, man-on-boy, and woman-on-girl are four very different acts and need to be seen and dealt with differently. The latter two are inherently perverse and should only be tolerated among those old enough to drink. The first is a disaster for the girl, her family, and the community. The second is a joke, which is why we joke about it. A sin, to be sure, but it hardly rises to a crime. Shame her out of town, but don't jail her.

    “A major problem with this is that we stupidly insist on the same age of consent for everybody.”

    It’s definitively a problem for YOU, but not the majority of society. You are the outlier here. Each society can decide what it deems is the appropriate age of consent.

    “But man-on-girl, woman-on-boy, man-on-boy, and woman-on-girl are four very different acts and need to be seen and dealt with differently.”

    The actors involved are different, but NOT the act. Again, you are the outlier here.

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    “But man-on-girl, woman-on-boy, man-on-boy, and woman-on-girl are four very different acts and need to be seen and dealt with differently.”

    The actors involved are different, but NOT the act. Again, you are the outlier here.
     
    Go ahead, make my day and quote Leviticus for me.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    The actors involved are different, but NOT the act. Again, you are the outlier here.

     

    If you think what Jerry Lee Lewis did with his teenage wife is no different from what chickenhawk Leyland Stevenson did (or wanted to do) with teenage boys, you must have slept through high school health class.

    But then, as a crow you have a cloaca. It's different for birds.

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  248. @Anonymous
    The fact is that a whole plethora of sex abuse scandals perpetrated by Pakistanis upon English girls have been unearthed, in recent times, from a widely spread series of English towns.
    Even Oxford has been implicated.
    The common link in all cases as a big Pakistani population - with employment of the abusers seemingly concentrated as taxi drivers or in fast food service - vital contributors to the UK export drive all.

    The obvious implication is of a system of 'national planning' being organised, on an 'informal basis' by the Pakistanis. Likely to be strongly linked with drug distribution and selling networks.

    “Ethnic” fast food shops serving spicy sh*t, that lazy locals find tasty in comparison with bland British food, have spread all across the UK.

    On a swing through England and Wales last year I frequently saw the most nefarious looking characters staring coldly out from behind chipped formica counters even in the most traditional of villages and towns.

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    The funny thing is that the so-called 'takeaway pizza' market in the UK is run entirely by Pakistanis and Afghans. Never by never Italians.
    , @Clyde

    “Ethnic” fast food shops serving spicy sh*t, that lazy locals find tasty in comparison with bland British food, have spread all across the UK.
    On a swing through England and Wales last year I frequently saw the most nefarious looking characters staring coldly out from behind chipped formica counters even in the most traditional of villages and towns.
     
    A friend's daughter lives in Scotland. He visits at least once a year to see her and her family (his grandsons) near Glasgow. He tells me the local fish and chips are owned by Pakistanis. And I thought Scotland was low immigration. So many early inventors here and in Great Britain were Scottish. What a cave in!
    My first rule of subcons is they love cash businesses. Their take is that paying taxes is for suckers and Americans and English. Scottish too now. They are owed! Due to Brit Imperialism I suppose.
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  249. @grapesoda
    You must have a very low opinion of women if you think they're not responsible for their words, actions, voting patterns, or political views. You're basically saying women are equivalent to animals or children in terms of moral agency.

    Your comment is so far from right it isn’t even wrong. Moral agency does not entail some Olympian repose above all Earthly things. Responsibility is not some digital switch which is either on or off. Children, for example, are, in fact, responsible to a considerable extent for many of their actions. Adults, for example, are, in fact, frequently not 100% responsible for many of their actions. Finally, nothing in my comment said, implied, or could reasonably be inferred to mean that women are not responsible for their actions.

    Here’s an exercise for you. Take the hints I just gave you and my comment above, and engage yourself as a lawyer in my defense. Make the very best argument you possibly can that I am not “basically saying women are equivalent to animals.” Posting it here is optional: the point of the exercise is to get yourself outside the autistic loop your thinking is trapped within.

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