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When my paternal grandfather was a teenager in the late 19th Century, he was a delivery boy for a lens factory. One of his regular stops was the laboratory of physicist Wilhelm Röntgen, who was using glass from my grandfather’s employer in inventing what we know today as the X-ray machine.

At the time, Röntgen’s discovery of X-rays seemed like a big deal and a boon to humanity. Thus, when the Nobel Prizes started up in 1901, Röntgen was chosen, out of all the living physicists in the world, to receive the first Nobel in physics.

But now we know better. Röntgen was really just using his White Male Privilege to make non-whites and non-males feel bad.

Thus, from the Tory Telegraph of London:

How the Nobel Prize has favoured white western men for more than 100 years

As the Nobel laureates for peace, literature, economics, medicine, physics and chemistry are named for 2014, The Telegraph investigates the history of the awards’ gender and geographical bias

By Oliver Duggan, and Peter Spence4:17PM BST 08 Oct 2014 Comments 206

Just five per cent of almost 900 Nobel Prizes distributed to the most brilliant minds in peace, literature, science and economics over the past century have been awarded to women.

Of 867 prestigious awards distributed since 1901, just 46 have been awarded to women, starting with Marie Curie who won the prize for physics alongside her husband Pierre in 1903 and again for chemistry in 1911.

Since then, 15 women have also been awarded the Nobel prize for scientific pursuits – compared to more than 500 men. A dozen have received the award for literature, 14 for peace and one for economics.

Geographical analysis by the Telegraph has also revealed that western countries have received a disproportionately high number of awards throughout the Nobel’s history. …

The breakdown of male and female winners of the award in each discipline shows women in peace and literature are more likely to win the award than those in scientific pursuits.

Given the huge political and social power held by western men over the last century, low representation for women may be expected. However the findings in certain disciplines are striking.

For Physics, less than one per cent of the award winners have been women. Similarly, just under a dozen of the 200 prizes handed out for medicine have gone to female healthworkers.

 
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  1. Priss Factor [AKA "pizza with hot pepper"] says:

    http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/10/new-less-white-all-american.html

    What happens to a people when they trust yanomanos.

  2. Priss Factor [AKA "pizza with hot pepper"] says:

    Any mention of how yanomanos are over-represented?

  3. Not a good look for Obama. Bummed Hillary out of first woman prez and hogged another Nob gong to boot.

    (Btw: I liked the Telly headline. Like one of Steve’s, but delivered with a toy makers ball pein hammer.)

  4. Sadly the Telegraph has lurched heavily left over the course of this year. Crappy articles like the one above are becoming more common and the comment threads have been purged.

  5. Priss Factor [AKA "pizza with hot pepper"] says:

    It seems some white groups received far more Nobels than others.

    Why were Chechens never awarded the Nobel?

    Discrimination! I demand that Bomb Mom be given the Peace Prize.

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    Our boy Ramzan (the Checheniest Chechen of them all) Kadyrov will accept on her behalf. He IS Chechnya, dammit.
  6. Thus, from the Tory Telegraph of London…

    It was Guardianized long ago, like the Tory party itself. And I’m sure the Scots-Irish Grant Shapps and the Irish-Scots Lord Feldman, the current chairmen of the party, are fine with that.

  7. What baffles me the most is that this phenomenon of white guilt and hate seems to be driven by whites. I don’t get it. The author of this article and many like it are whites. Even Obama’s white hate mentor, Reverend Wright, is mostly white.

    Secondly, white people do hog nobel prizes like black people hog basketball player positions. Natural talent is a privilege, and in some sense, being born with or without innate talent is arguably an unfair reality. Being born to married or caring parents is also a privilege over being born to dysfunctional, abusive parents, and from the perspective of individual merit, that’s unfair as well.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    yeah, this sort of white guilt is remarkable. White people might be the only people in the world ashamed of their own achievements. I like Steve's often expressed view that this sort of guilt is in part a form of moral superiority, the white authors of this article are flashing their moral superiority over other whites.
    , @John Jeremiah Smith

    What baffles me the most is that this phenomenon of white guilt and hate seems to be driven by whites. I don’t get it.
     
    I also find this interesting. It's the 21st century, and that phenomenon is a product of deployment of "market share" principles. Most "journalists" are white, therefore their competition is white. The incidence of black "journalists", while rising, is small and the QA factor low; hence, the few intelligent black "journalists" are disproportionately rewarded with by-lines and subsequent enhanced income.

    White competition for white "journalists" is bad enough, but then factor-in that white "journalists" cannot compete with black "journalists" on an even playing field, either. Therefore, one ploy is to split-out into a niche market, where they adopt the "black, minority, oppressed, un-represented, hispanic, broken-family, poverty, no-opportunity" gestalt.

    Presumably, a white "journalist" who plays the specialty niche market of the "minority oppression" angle, consistently and sympathetically, wins out financially, compared to being just another hack in the white pack.
  8. This is the Telegraph? Huh? I thought they were the right-wing British paper?

    Oh well…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Right wing? Well,not really. The owners are of a kind of Middle-Eastern descent,and that makes ALL the difference.
  9. Hmmmm, do they mention the Jews?

  10. Thankfully at least 95% of the comments below the line are critical of this nonsense. In reality the only nobles that suffer from bias, in any direction, are literature and peace.

  11. A hundred years ago white caucasian men won 100% of the science Nobels. This year it’s down to 55%.

  12. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Massimo Heitor
    What baffles me the most is that this phenomenon of white guilt and hate seems to be driven by whites. I don't get it. The author of this article and many like it are whites. Even Obama's white hate mentor, Reverend Wright, is mostly white.

    Secondly, white people do hog nobel prizes like black people hog basketball player positions. Natural talent is a privilege, and in some sense, being born with or without innate talent is arguably an unfair reality. Being born to married or caring parents is also a privilege over being born to dysfunctional, abusive parents, and from the perspective of individual merit, that's unfair as well.

    yeah, this sort of white guilt is remarkable. White people might be the only people in the world ashamed of their own achievements. I like Steve’s often expressed view that this sort of guilt is in part a form of moral superiority, the white authors of this article are flashing their moral superiority over other whites.

  13. @Massimo Heitor
    What baffles me the most is that this phenomenon of white guilt and hate seems to be driven by whites. I don't get it. The author of this article and many like it are whites. Even Obama's white hate mentor, Reverend Wright, is mostly white.

    Secondly, white people do hog nobel prizes like black people hog basketball player positions. Natural talent is a privilege, and in some sense, being born with or without innate talent is arguably an unfair reality. Being born to married or caring parents is also a privilege over being born to dysfunctional, abusive parents, and from the perspective of individual merit, that's unfair as well.

    What baffles me the most is that this phenomenon of white guilt and hate seems to be driven by whites. I don’t get it.

    I also find this interesting. It’s the 21st century, and that phenomenon is a product of deployment of “market share” principles. Most “journalists” are white, therefore their competition is white. The incidence of black “journalists”, while rising, is small and the QA factor low; hence, the few intelligent black “journalists” are disproportionately rewarded with by-lines and subsequent enhanced income.

    White competition for white “journalists” is bad enough, but then factor-in that white “journalists” cannot compete with black “journalists” on an even playing field, either. Therefore, one ploy is to split-out into a niche market, where they adopt the “black, minority, oppressed, un-represented, hispanic, broken-family, poverty, no-opportunity” gestalt.

    Presumably, a white “journalist” who plays the specialty niche market of the “minority oppression” angle, consistently and sympathetically, wins out financially, compared to being just another hack in the white pack.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    … a white “journalist” who plays the specialty niche market of the “minority oppression” angle…
     
    The riches are in the niches, as marketers like to say. But I'm afraid you're confusing the niche with the nave.
  14. The Telegraph is not only left, its turned hard left, as with the Tory party. The Telegraph is actually waging a war on its readers, you will come across so many articles now that attack white people for being bigoted, asks the Tories to do outreach to ethnic groups and supports the usual leftwing things like homosexual marriage, anti nationalism, pro diversity etc.

  15. “What baffles me the most is that this phenomenon of white guilt and hate seems to be driven by whites. I don’t get it.”

    The old way of thinking was such a Burden.

    Instead of standing on the shoulders of the Giants who came before them, today’s elites decided to bite their ankles. Now that the giants have passed, they’re at a loss.

  16. It’s become absurd that these people can make these complaints without being able to point to a single woman or minority who should have received a Nobel prize. The way they talk about it, I’m beginning to wonder why I never received one. After all, I’m a straight white western male!

  17. What baffles me the most is that this phenomenon of white guilt and hate seems to be driven by whites. I don’t get it. The author of this article and many like it are whites. Even Obama’s white hate mentor, Reverend Wright, is mostly white.

    “I DIDN’T ASK TO BE WHITE!”

    It’s like being mad at your parents as a teenager but never, never, never getting over it.

  18. They need to change the rules already so that George Washington Carver can get his posthumous Nobel. Knowing that this black man sort-of-but-not-really invented peanut butter will earn you more standardized test points over a lifetime than any other factoid.

  19. “starting with Marie Curie who won the prize for physics alongside her husband Pierre”

    which she got on his insistence and Ernest “All science is either physics or stamp collecting” Rutherford never got one for physics and she ended up the only one with two in different hard sciences.

    • Replies: @colm
    Well it is fair that Ernie didn't win that one since the real work was all done by Henry Moseley, who was killed by another Nobel laureate Winston Churchill at Gallipoli.

    In fact all these white youths killed needlessly during the Great War enabled nonwhites to creep in.

  20. I dunno, stand it on its head and it’s a lefthanded critique of women, too. At least the excerpt I read. For all our noise, all these decades, we really haven’t done all the much with our freedom.

    Pretty damning, really, unless in fact women are managing to raise good kids.

  21. The Telegraph is totally worthless and not right-wing in any meaningful sense at all. Most of their columnists like Dan Hodges and Tom Chivers are mindless lefties and could just as well be writing at The Guardian; the few interesting ones like Ed West have been purged. The only thing distinguishing the Telegraph is demented neo-connish warmongering (Con Coughlin and some other guy who’s always going on about Iran), anti-German hysterics and some distinctly strange Catholic whining by Damian Thompson, Timothy Stanley and Christina Odone (who are also very concerned about “Islamophobia”, militant atheists and the horrid EDL).
    Truly a worthless rag.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    I concur. Do you comment at the DT, on Disqus. I'm now an unperson there.

    Cristina Odone, writing after one of the great battles of WWT - Eurovision 2014, mentioned that Masha Gessen was a family friend. Making Cristina a very odd sort of Catholic conservative indeed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masha_Gessen
  22. I’m mad that I wont ever get nominated for a BET award.

  23. Is this parody? We know that Nobel Prizes in literature and peace are largely awarded for political correctness, but the science prizes generally reflect real acheivement. But I guess we’re still living in the Old South – all those brilliant NAM physicists, chemists and physicians being kept down by Jim Crow. Who knew?

  24. People in some non-western countries can come up with their own prizes and hand them out to their people.

    Why are non-westerners so concerned with being recognized or lauded by westerners?

    Why don’t they just do their own thing?

    Living well is the best revenge, anyway.

    Most of the world’s resources are in non-western areas. They have everything they need to get ‘er done.

    What is the problem?

  25. We know that Nobel Prizes in literature and peace are largely awarded for political correctness,

    What’s ‘politically correct’ about William Golding or Naguib Mahfouz or Mario Vargas Llosa or Joseph Brodsky or Czeslaw Milosz or Saul Bellow?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Conservatives generally win Nobels in Literature at moments when the tides are flowing in their direction, like V.S. Naipaul winning after 9/11.
    , @Black Death
    How about Toni Morrison? Guenter Grass? Doris Lessing? Actually, the Nobel Prize for Literature has been awarded to many outstanding writers and quite a few mediocre ones as well (just look at the list of winners to see many most of us have never heard of). What do Tolstoy, Proust, Joyce, Woolf, Borges, Nabakov, Auden and Updike have in common (besides being great writers, of course)? They never won the Nobel Prize for Literature.

    The Peace Prize is the real joke, though. Just ask Barack Obama and Jimmy Carter.
  26. Any Big Thoughts from Steve or others on white death wish? Surely, it’s unprecedented in history that the most powerful segment of the most powerful, successful and (yes!) humane society in history decided at a certain point to kill itself off, so that the dwarves and druids could take over, and destroy all that earlier Whitey had built? Nostalgia for the jungle? A sexual hunger for degredation? Mr. Oed? Discuss among yourselves.

  27. Stop Europhobia NOW!!

  28. Arthur Sodernym says:
    October 9, 2014 at 12:47 pm GMT

    It’s become absurd that these people can make these complaints without being able to point to a single woman or minority who should have received a Nobel prize.

    Yes.
    First ask them which white males should not have won. For each undeserving white male, they should come up with a “minority (not asian of course)” scientist who should have won instead and of course explain why that minority’s work is more worthy of the nobel.

  29. @John Jeremiah Smith

    What baffles me the most is that this phenomenon of white guilt and hate seems to be driven by whites. I don’t get it.
     
    I also find this interesting. It's the 21st century, and that phenomenon is a product of deployment of "market share" principles. Most "journalists" are white, therefore their competition is white. The incidence of black "journalists", while rising, is small and the QA factor low; hence, the few intelligent black "journalists" are disproportionately rewarded with by-lines and subsequent enhanced income.

    White competition for white "journalists" is bad enough, but then factor-in that white "journalists" cannot compete with black "journalists" on an even playing field, either. Therefore, one ploy is to split-out into a niche market, where they adopt the "black, minority, oppressed, un-represented, hispanic, broken-family, poverty, no-opportunity" gestalt.

    Presumably, a white "journalist" who plays the specialty niche market of the "minority oppression" angle, consistently and sympathetically, wins out financially, compared to being just another hack in the white pack.

    … a white “journalist” who plays the specialty niche market of the “minority oppression” angle…

    The riches are in the niches, as marketers like to say. But I’m afraid you’re confusing the niche with the nave.

  30. Here’s a neat little map (Nobel prizes per country per capita):

    See also:

    and

    As well as:

    List of countries by Nobel laureates per capita – Wikipedia

  31. Racism is the ONLY explanation! Nigerian SuperGenius Philip Emeagwali should have won the Nobel Prize for designing the Internet and inventing massively parallel supercomputers!

  32. What a joke of an article. At least they could try to find examples of non-white-male scientists whose pioneering work has been unjustly ignored by the Nobel committee. But no, they’re too lazy even for that. It’s like we’re not even allowed to consider the hypothesis that white males dominate the Nobel prizes because they dominate scientific achievement.

  33. Glad you pointed out that the Telegraph is a Tory newspaper.

    The Torygraph, as it’s known on the other side of the pond, is especially unreliable on foreign policy issues, parroting the establishment line without the BBC’s fig leaves of faux-objectivity

  34. We might not be able to do anything about white male privilege, but it seems we can do something about black male privilege:

    Alfred Nobel’s will, which set up guidelines for the prize, said it is to be awarded each year to whoever “shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace and congresses.”

    In recent years, however, the committee has been criticized over several decisions — such as awarding the 2009 prize to U.S. President Barack Obama, whose administration has ramped up its drone program.

    http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/10/8/norwegian-nobel-peaceprizecommittee.html

  35. “Any mention of how yanomanos are over-represented?”

    It’s Yanomami, not Yanomano. Have you ever watched “Cannibal Holocaust” a horror exploitation film from the early 1980s ?

  36. “This is the Telegraph? Huh? I thought they were the right-wing British paper?

    Oh well…”

    The U.K has a very loose definition of “right wing”. They think you are a mad right wing lunatic if you are in favor of lower taxes, even if you are left wing on every other issue.

    In America if you are in favor of lower taxes but are left wing on every other issue you are seen as either a libertarian or a moderate, but not a right winger.

  37. well, three Asians won the Nobel Prize for the LED light, apparently on their own.

    I guess that goes well with their other Asian invention, the USB port.

  38. “A hundred years ago white caucasian men won 100% of the science Nobels. This year it’s down to 55%.”

    55% percent is still pretty damn good when you factor in that the majority of the world’s population is not made up of White males.

  39. It’s become absurd that these people can make these complaints without being able to point to a single woman or minority who should have received a Nobel prize. The way they talk about it, I’m beginning to wonder why I never received one. After all, I’m a straight white western male!

    That’s a good point. In sports you often point to a non-white who was deserving of an award that went to a white instead. For example, Paul Hornung was awarded the Heisman Trophy in 1956, when many thought Jim Brown was the superior player. Shouldn’t we see the same thing in Nobel hard science awards? For example, a white guy wins the award for X-rays, but here is a black guy who invented a time machine who is much more deserving. Do we have examples of non-whites and their discoveries that have been overlooked?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    but here is a black guy who invented a time machine who is much more deserving
     
    If time machines are part of our future, why haven't we seen them in our past?
    , @George
    FWIW, The time machine proposed by Dr Ronald Mallett has never been built, and the concept could turn out to be flawed.
  40. @Art Deco
    We know that Nobel Prizes in literature and peace are largely awarded for political correctness,

    What's 'politically correct' about William Golding or Naguib Mahfouz or Mario Vargas Llosa or Joseph Brodsky or Czeslaw Milosz or Saul Bellow?

    Conservatives generally win Nobels in Literature at moments when the tides are flowing in their direction, like V.S. Naipaul winning after 9/11.

  41. @Priss Factor
    It seems some white groups received far more Nobels than others.

    Why were Chechens never awarded the Nobel?

    Discrimination! I demand that Bomb Mom be given the Peace Prize.

    Our boy Ramzan (the Checheniest Chechen of them all) Kadyrov will accept on her behalf. He IS Chechnya, dammit.

  42. Nothing that we say here in these forums will make any difference . The very successes of European civilization dooms us. None of the mud people would have the temerity to assault our position as the most advanced leaders of humanity if white race traitors didn’t give them permission and encouragement . All that we have accomplished to advance the human race since the stone age has lead to this sad end. Some defect in our make up impels us on this self destructive path . We have taken the cowards way out. We allow the very worst sociopaths to push their way to positions of power and they have followed their true natures to advance their own interests and encouraged the muddle headed nonsense of their pseudo-progressive stooges to cloud our judgment and undermine what common sense would tell us , indifferent to the consequences for humanity. No people are free of crimes against their own and others and certainly European civilization has it’s hands steeped in innocent or not so innocent blood . But we lack the courage to accept the responsibilities that our accomplishments force on us We have failed .We are not going into a bright future.We are sinking into a nightmare where only the scum at the top will prosper protected by an obscene totalitarian regime operated by thugs and criminals.

    • Replies: @JustAnotherGuyWithA1911

    Nothing that we say here in these forums will make any difference .
     
    Sometimes when I read iSteve I hear the Counting Crows pinging around the brain box:


    Step out the front door like a ghost
    into the fog where no one notices
    the contrast of white on white.

    And in between the moon and you
    the angels get a better view
    of the crumbling difference between wrong and right.
    I walk in the air between the rain
    through myself and back again
    Where? I don't know . . .

    [Chorus:]

    Round here we always stand up straight
    Round here something radiates . . .

    Round here we're carving out our names
    Round here we all look the same
    Round here we talk just like lions
    But we sacrifice like lambs
    Round here she's slipping through my hands

    . . .

    Oh, wells - for whatever it is worth, I do enjoy the comments and the company.

    , @Art Deco
    Just drink up and forget it, buddy. In silence, one might hope.
    , @rod1963
    My 2 cents.

    C.S. Lewis or Nietzsche would have understood going on.

    Simply put the West has committed suicide morally and spiritually. Nietzsche saw this happening in his time and it's come to full fruition over the last 70 years after Europe blew it's brains and endowment for the future out in a suicidal war coupled with the destruction of the family which had been up to this last century the prime cultural transmitter to future generations. The latter has also happened in the U.S. as well when socialism won over traditionalism.

    Now we have a seemingly majority of European and the U.S. whites who have become the "men without chests" as Lewis called them. They believe in nothing and won't fight for anything, even their lives. Most are no better than the Eloi from the movie The Time Machine. They're a joke waiting to be harvested by a successor ethnicity.

    They live on the remains of those that went before them. Look at Europe, at one time it was a artistic and intellectual font, now it's inhabitants are a bunch of hedonistic, secular layabouts welcoming in Muslims by the millions. The Muzzies openly exclaim they'll either convert or kill the unbelievers and the urbane European simply shrugs and drinks his wine. They can't even reproduce anymore, they're dead intellectually, morally and emotionally. They even lack the drive to reproduce. Many of the white American middle and upper classes are no better. They don't see that the culture and the values that made the country strong has been eradicated and replaced by out of control consumerism and a soul crushing socialism.

    We in the U.S. aren't far behind. We're not total pasty faced dweebs like them but our intellectual class is already toast. They're not men, they are brainwashed nothings in trousers and can't reproduce either. There's probably hope for the lower class whites who haven't been gelded and lobotomized like the Ivy League types.

    Lastly as the historian Carroll Quigley said in his last lecture

    "I'm not personally pessimistic. The final result will be that the American people will ultimately prefer communities. They will cop out or opt out of the system. Today everything is a bureaucratic structure, and brainwashed people who are not personalities are trained to fit into this bureaucratic structure and say it is a great life -- although I would assume that many on their death beds must feel otherwise. The process of coping out will take a long time, but notice: we are already coping out of military service on a wholesale basis; we are already copping out of voting on a large scale basis. I heard an estimate tonight that, for the fourth time in sixteen years the President will probably be chosen by but forty percent of the people eligible to vote. People are also copping out by refusing to pay any attention to newspapers or to what's going on in the world, and by increasing their emphasis on the growth of localism, i.e.,what is happening in their own neighborhoods.

    ...
    Now I want to say good night. Do not be pessimistic. Life goes on; life is fun. And if a civilization crashes, it deserves to. When Rome fell, the Christian answer was, "Create our own communities."
  43. @iSteveFan
    It’s become absurd that these people can make these complaints without being able to point to a single woman or minority who should have received a Nobel prize. The way they talk about it, I’m beginning to wonder why I never received one. After all, I’m a straight white western male!

    That's a good point. In sports you often point to a non-white who was deserving of an award that went to a white instead. For example, Paul Hornung was awarded the Heisman Trophy in 1956, when many thought Jim Brown was the superior player. Shouldn't we see the same thing in Nobel hard science awards? For example, a white guy wins the award for X-rays, but here is a black guy who invented a time machine who is much more deserving. Do we have examples of non-whites and their discoveries that have been overlooked?

    but here is a black guy who invented a time machine who is much more deserving

    If time machines are part of our future, why haven’t we seen them in our past?

  44. Someone said you were adopted, which means whatever your ‘paternal’ grandfather did has nothing to do with you.

    Anyways, I am surprised why they gave awards to nonwhites (peace and lit prizes excepted) at all.

  45. @namae nanka
    "starting with Marie Curie who won the prize for physics alongside her husband Pierre"

    which she got on his insistence and Ernest "All science is either physics or stamp collecting" Rutherford never got one for physics and she ended up the only one with two in different hard sciences.

    Well it is fair that Ernie didn’t win that one since the real work was all done by Henry Moseley, who was killed by another Nobel laureate Winston Churchill at Gallipoli.

    In fact all these white youths killed needlessly during the Great War enabled nonwhites to creep in.

  46. @donut
    Nothing that we say here in these forums will make any difference . The very successes of European civilization dooms us. None of the mud people would have the temerity to assault our position as the most advanced leaders of humanity if white race traitors didn't give them permission and encouragement . All that we have accomplished to advance the human race since the stone age has lead to this sad end. Some defect in our make up impels us on this self destructive path . We have taken the cowards way out. We allow the very worst sociopaths to push their way to positions of power and they have followed their true natures to advance their own interests and encouraged the muddle headed nonsense of their pseudo-progressive stooges to cloud our judgment and undermine what common sense would tell us , indifferent to the consequences for humanity. No people are free of crimes against their own and others and certainly European civilization has it's hands steeped in innocent or not so innocent blood . But we lack the courage to accept the responsibilities that our accomplishments force on us We have failed .We are not going into a bright future.We are sinking into a nightmare where only the scum at the top will prosper protected by an obscene totalitarian regime operated by thugs and criminals.

    Nothing that we say here in these forums will make any difference .

    Sometimes when I read iSteve I hear the Counting Crows pinging around the brain box:

    Step out the front door like a ghost
    into the fog where no one notices
    the contrast of white on white.

    And in between the moon and you
    the angels get a better view
    of the crumbling difference between wrong and right.
    I walk in the air between the rain
    through myself and back again
    Where? I don’t know . . .

    [Chorus:]

    Round here we always stand up straight
    Round here something radiates . . .

    Round here we’re carving out our names
    Round here we all look the same
    Round here we talk just like lions
    But we sacrifice like lambs
    Round here she’s slipping through my hands

    . . .

    Oh, wells – for whatever it is worth, I do enjoy the comments and the company.

    • Replies: @donut
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdjYVF4a6iU .This guy can rebuild civilization single-handedly after the collapse . An electron microscope in his garage .
  47. @iSteveFan
    It’s become absurd that these people can make these complaints without being able to point to a single woman or minority who should have received a Nobel prize. The way they talk about it, I’m beginning to wonder why I never received one. After all, I’m a straight white western male!

    That's a good point. In sports you often point to a non-white who was deserving of an award that went to a white instead. For example, Paul Hornung was awarded the Heisman Trophy in 1956, when many thought Jim Brown was the superior player. Shouldn't we see the same thing in Nobel hard science awards? For example, a white guy wins the award for X-rays, but here is a black guy who invented a time machine who is much more deserving. Do we have examples of non-whites and their discoveries that have been overlooked?

    FWIW, The time machine proposed by Dr Ronald Mallett has never been built, and the concept could turn out to be flawed.

  48. ” As the Nobel laureates for peace, literature, economics, medicine, physics and chemistry are named for 2014, The Telegraph investigates the history of the awards’ gender and geographical bias ”
    The bias is unfortunately towards accomplishment . Maybe they should grade on a curve. I noticed only one woman won a prize in economics vs. 72 men . Certainly that should please them since a prize in economics is as prestigious as a prize in astrology but less respectable. Just by the way , what could be more meaningless or cynical than the Nobel Peace Prize, I mean really look at the list of winners. By these standards the dock at Nuremberg probably had some potential winners in it.

  49. since a prize in economics is as prestigious as a prize in astrology but less respectable.

    I’m fascinated. What alt-right shtick you’re invested in was punctured by an economist?

  50. Alfred Nobel’s will, which set up guidelines for the prize, said it is to be awarded each year to whoever “shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace and congresses.”

    Nobel did not quite get that the first purpose might be injured by pursuing the second and be unaffected by the third.

  51. @donut
    Nothing that we say here in these forums will make any difference . The very successes of European civilization dooms us. None of the mud people would have the temerity to assault our position as the most advanced leaders of humanity if white race traitors didn't give them permission and encouragement . All that we have accomplished to advance the human race since the stone age has lead to this sad end. Some defect in our make up impels us on this self destructive path . We have taken the cowards way out. We allow the very worst sociopaths to push their way to positions of power and they have followed their true natures to advance their own interests and encouraged the muddle headed nonsense of their pseudo-progressive stooges to cloud our judgment and undermine what common sense would tell us , indifferent to the consequences for humanity. No people are free of crimes against their own and others and certainly European civilization has it's hands steeped in innocent or not so innocent blood . But we lack the courage to accept the responsibilities that our accomplishments force on us We have failed .We are not going into a bright future.We are sinking into a nightmare where only the scum at the top will prosper protected by an obscene totalitarian regime operated by thugs and criminals.

    Just drink up and forget it, buddy. In silence, one might hope.

    • Replies: @donut
    I'm all out of rum . Regarding your other comment , I don't have enough money to even bother to stick it under my mattress .
  52. Obama and Arafat have been Nobel Peace prize winners. If similar minorities had as well deserved Prizes in Physics it would surely mean global nuclear holocaust.

  53. MMM, Lit Nobel announced. I’ve never heard of the guy, but, hey, he’s got the whole Holocaust shtick thing going:

    His father was of Jewish Italian origins and met his Belgian actor mother during the occupation of Paris, and Modiano’s beginnings have strongly influenced his writing.

    Jewishness, the Nazi occupation and loss of identity are recurrent themes in his novels, which include 1968’s La Place de l’Etoile – later hailed in Germany as a key post-Holocaust work.

    http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/oct/09/patrick-modiano-wins-nobel-prize-for-literature

  54. Chemistry Nobel announced. Three White guys, two Americans and a Romanian-born German:

    Eric Betzig , Stefan Hell, and William E. Moerner.

    Hell:

    Born into a Banat Swabian family in Arad, Romania, he grew up in his parents’ home in nearby Sântana.[3][4] Hell attended primary school there between 1969 and 1977.[5] Subsequently, he attended one year of secondary education at the Nikolaus Lenau High School in Timișoara before leaving with his parents to West Germany in 1978.[6] His father was an engineer and his mother a teacher; the family settled in Ludwigshafen after emigrating.[5]

    Hell began his studies at the University of Heidelberg in 1981, where he received his doctorate in physics in 1990. His thesis advisor was the solid-state physicist Siegfried Hunklinger. The title of the thesis was “Imaging of transparent microstructures in a confocal microscope”.[7] He was an independent inventor for a short period thereafter working on improving depth (axial) resolution in confocal microscopy, which became later known as the 4Pi microscope. Resolution is the possibility to separate two similar objects in close proximity and is therefore the most important property of a microscope.

    Eric Betzig:

    Betzig was born in Ann Arbor, Michigan, the son of Robert Betzig. For his undergraduate degree, Betzig studied Physics at the California Institute of Technology, graduating with a BS degree in 1983. He then went on to study at Cornell University where he obtained an MS degree and a PhD degree in Applied and Engineering physics in 1985 and 1988, respectively.[5]

    After receiving his doctorate, Betzig worked at AT&T Bell Laboratories in the Semiconductor Physics Research Department. In 1996, Betzig left academia to become vice president of research and development at Ann Arbor Machine Company, then owned by his father.[4] Here he developed Flexible Adaptive Servohydraulic Technology (FAST) but did not achieve commercial success.[5][6]

    Betzig then returned to the field of microscopy, developing photoactivated localization microscopy (PALM), and in 2006 he joined the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Janelia Farm Research Campus as a group leader to work on developing super high-resolution flourescence microscopy techniques.[4]

    William E. Moerner:

    Moerner was born in Pleasanton, California, the son of Bertha Frances (Robinson) and William Alfred Moerner.[6] He attended Washington University in St. Louis for undergraduate studies as an Alexander S. Langsdorf Engineering Fellow, and obtained three degrees: a B.S. in physics with Final Honors, a B.S. in electrical engineering with Final Honors, and an A.B. in mathematics summa cum laude in 1975.[7] This was followed by graduate study, partially supported by a National Science Foundation Graduate Fellowship, at Cornell University in the group of Albert J. Sievers III.[8] Here he received an M.S. degree and a Ph.D. degree in physics in 1978 and 1982, respectively. His doctoral thesis was on vibrational relaxation dynamics of an IR-laser-excited molecular impurity mode in alkali halide lattices.[9] Throughout his school years, Moerner was a straight A student from 1963 to 1982, and won both the Dean’s Award for Unusually Exceptional Academic Achievement as well as the Ethan A. H. Shepley Award for Outstanding Achievement when he graduated from college.[10]

    Moerner was born on June 24, 1953, at Parks Air Force Base in Pleasanton, California. He grew up in Texas where he attended Thomas Jefferson High School in San Antonio. He participated in many activities during high school: Band, Speech and Debate, Math and Science Contest Team, Bi-Phy-Chem, Masque and Gavel, National Honor Society, Boy Scouts, Amateur Radio Club, Russian Club, Forum Social Club, Toastmasters, “On the Spot” Team and Editor of Each has Spoken. Moerner and his wife, Sharon, have one son, Daniel.[38] From birth, his family called him by his initials W. E. as a way to distinguish him from his father and grandfather who are also named William.[10]

  55. @Art Deco
    Just drink up and forget it, buddy. In silence, one might hope.

    I’m all out of rum . Regarding your other comment , I don’t have enough money to even bother to stick it under my mattress .

  56. @JustAnotherGuyWithA1911

    Nothing that we say here in these forums will make any difference .
     
    Sometimes when I read iSteve I hear the Counting Crows pinging around the brain box:


    Step out the front door like a ghost
    into the fog where no one notices
    the contrast of white on white.

    And in between the moon and you
    the angels get a better view
    of the crumbling difference between wrong and right.
    I walk in the air between the rain
    through myself and back again
    Where? I don't know . . .

    [Chorus:]

    Round here we always stand up straight
    Round here something radiates . . .

    Round here we're carving out our names
    Round here we all look the same
    Round here we talk just like lions
    But we sacrifice like lambs
    Round here she's slipping through my hands

    . . .

    Oh, wells - for whatever it is worth, I do enjoy the comments and the company.

    .This guy can rebuild civilization single-handedly after the collapse . An electron microscope in his garage .

  57. @German_reader
    The Telegraph is totally worthless and not right-wing in any meaningful sense at all. Most of their columnists like Dan Hodges and Tom Chivers are mindless lefties and could just as well be writing at The Guardian; the few interesting ones like Ed West have been purged. The only thing distinguishing the Telegraph is demented neo-connish warmongering (Con Coughlin and some other guy who's always going on about Iran), anti-German hysterics and some distinctly strange Catholic whining by Damian Thompson, Timothy Stanley and Christina Odone (who are also very concerned about "Islamophobia", militant atheists and the horrid EDL).
    Truly a worthless rag.

    I concur. Do you comment at the DT, on Disqus. I’m now an unperson there.

    Cristina Odone, writing after one of the great battles of WWT – Eurovision 2014, mentioned that Masha Gessen was a family friend. Making Cristina a very odd sort of Catholic conservative indeed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masha_Gessen

  58. To get to the nuts and bolts of the thing:

    -Nearly all nobel prizes go to white men

    Implied: If there is uneven distribution of nobel prizes, then it must be due to racial/gender bias instead of accomplishment.

    – This is the major problem with all of these arguments, and such an obvious fallacy that not even the most stupid of the liberals could possibly believe it. Where is the evidence that groups of people have ever performed the same? How many black women were making advances in neuroscience or breaking the atom? Where is the evidence for bias in how it was handed out? There IS enormous bias in the system the whole way along FOR blacks, women, etc – programs from infancy through all levels of school, job opportunities, money for business startups, etc. and as other readers have mentioned, increasingly, the peace prize and literature have been given out based on PC instead of performance….and still white men dominate.

  59. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    But now we know better. Röntgen was really just using his White Male Privilege to make non-whites and non-males feel bad.

    Well, it was probably German Male Privilege, or Saxon Male Privilege. Later, it would morph into AngloSaxon Male Privilege and then White Male Privilege.

  60. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    FWIW, who wins the Nobel Peace prize probably has a lot to do with politics in Norway. (Norway, not Sweden gets to pick the peace prize). I think this story has appeared in a number of places:

    “Nobel peace panel in focus as 2014 awards begin”, 3-Oct-2014, The Economic Times:

    “Norway is considering shaking up the five-member committee that selects the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize. …

    Critics say the prestigious panel should no longer be limited to retired Norwegian politicians… …suggested the committee should expand its pool of candidates in Norway to include academics and members of civil society.

    “We are unfortunately in a situation now where the committee is closely tied to party politics,” Harpviken said. …

    Alfred Nobel established in his 1895 will… …the peace prize should be given by a five-member committee selected by the Norwegian Parliament. …”

    Now we find what’s motivating considering changing how the committee is formed. Who would ever believe politics is involved?

    “…By tradition the Nobel appointments reflect the political balance in Parliament, with major parties typically tapping a member of their own party to the committee.

    Because the majority in Parliament shifted from left to right last year, so will the Nobel committee…

  61. @donut
    Nothing that we say here in these forums will make any difference . The very successes of European civilization dooms us. None of the mud people would have the temerity to assault our position as the most advanced leaders of humanity if white race traitors didn't give them permission and encouragement . All that we have accomplished to advance the human race since the stone age has lead to this sad end. Some defect in our make up impels us on this self destructive path . We have taken the cowards way out. We allow the very worst sociopaths to push their way to positions of power and they have followed their true natures to advance their own interests and encouraged the muddle headed nonsense of their pseudo-progressive stooges to cloud our judgment and undermine what common sense would tell us , indifferent to the consequences for humanity. No people are free of crimes against their own and others and certainly European civilization has it's hands steeped in innocent or not so innocent blood . But we lack the courage to accept the responsibilities that our accomplishments force on us We have failed .We are not going into a bright future.We are sinking into a nightmare where only the scum at the top will prosper protected by an obscene totalitarian regime operated by thugs and criminals.

    My 2 cents.

    C.S. Lewis or Nietzsche would have understood going on.

    Simply put the West has committed suicide morally and spiritually. Nietzsche saw this happening in his time and it’s come to full fruition over the last 70 years after Europe blew it’s brains and endowment for the future out in a suicidal war coupled with the destruction of the family which had been up to this last century the prime cultural transmitter to future generations. The latter has also happened in the U.S. as well when socialism won over traditionalism.

    Now we have a seemingly majority of European and the U.S. whites who have become the “men without chests” as Lewis called them. They believe in nothing and won’t fight for anything, even their lives. Most are no better than the Eloi from the movie The Time Machine. They’re a joke waiting to be harvested by a successor ethnicity.

    They live on the remains of those that went before them. Look at Europe, at one time it was a artistic and intellectual font, now it’s inhabitants are a bunch of hedonistic, secular layabouts welcoming in Muslims by the millions. The Muzzies openly exclaim they’ll either convert or kill the unbelievers and the urbane European simply shrugs and drinks his wine. They can’t even reproduce anymore, they’re dead intellectually, morally and emotionally. They even lack the drive to reproduce. Many of the white American middle and upper classes are no better. They don’t see that the culture and the values that made the country strong has been eradicated and replaced by out of control consumerism and a soul crushing socialism.

    We in the U.S. aren’t far behind. We’re not total pasty faced dweebs like them but our intellectual class is already toast. They’re not men, they are brainwashed nothings in trousers and can’t reproduce either. There’s probably hope for the lower class whites who haven’t been gelded and lobotomized like the Ivy League types.

    Lastly as the historian Carroll Quigley said in his last lecture

    “I’m not personally pessimistic. The final result will be that the American people will ultimately prefer communities. They will cop out or opt out of the system. Today everything is a bureaucratic structure, and brainwashed people who are not personalities are trained to fit into this bureaucratic structure and say it is a great life — although I would assume that many on their death beds must feel otherwise. The process of coping out will take a long time, but notice: we are already coping out of military service on a wholesale basis; we are already copping out of voting on a large scale basis. I heard an estimate tonight that, for the fourth time in sixteen years the President will probably be chosen by but forty percent of the people eligible to vote. People are also copping out by refusing to pay any attention to newspapers or to what’s going on in the world, and by increasing their emphasis on the growth of localism, i.e.,what is happening in their own neighborhoods.


    Now I want to say good night. Do not be pessimistic. Life goes on; life is fun. And if a civilization crashes, it deserves to. When Rome fell, the Christian answer was, “Create our own communities.”

    • Replies: @David R. Merridale
    There’s probably hope for the lower class whites who haven’t been gelded and lobotomized like the Ivy League types.

    Linking to college-recruitment thread above...

    ...That is *if* the entire brainpower of the middle and lower classes isn't assimilated into the current educated elite. Schumpeter touched this problem (though mostly its economic implications): a society can only run properly when you have a fair sprinkling of over-talented people at all levels.
    , @RT Rider
    I have to agree with Carroll Quigley's sentiment. However, localization will be the natural succession of the collapse of the center. People are finally waking up to the monumental incompetence of the federal bureaucracy, let alone the state's. The Fed, the CDC, amongst others, are proving every day how clueless they are. PC can't be tolerated when it results in economic collapse or deadly epidemics, such as ebola. When confidence in the power center ends, it's over for centralized control.
  62. A few weeks ago, I saw a periodic table, but instead of the atomic weight and number, each box had a flag of the country where that element was discovered, with a few boxes not colored as they were known to ancients (copper, tin, lead, etc).

    The thing that I was really surprised about was that there were no Asian countries represented. The breakdown is:

    UK: 23
    Sweden: 19
    Germany: 19
    US: 17
    France: 17
    Russia: 6
    Austria: 2
    Denmark: 2
    Spain: 2
    Switz: 2
    Finland: 1
    Italy: 1
    Romania: 1

    Nothing from Asia. Now, most of the elements were discovered between about 1750 and 1900. Still, it’s amazing that it’s not just Europe, but Northern Europe: Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal have 3 elements between them, or 1/6 what Sweden discovered. It looks like most of the elements discovered in the US are elements that don’t occur in nature (Californium, Berkelium).

    • Replies: @colm
    @GMR

    Japan did find one element on 1908 . The guy who found it thought it was element 43 (Technetium) and named it Nipponium. It was found to be 78 (Rhenium) for which a German got the naming rights.

    So Japan had two elements stolen from her.

    Japan now has an unequivocal element discovered by her, Element 113 (Japonium is the presumptive name). Naturally the white men at IUPAC are trying to delay the naming process as much as possible.
  63. “I concur. Do you comment at the DT, on Disqus”

    I once did, but I deleted my account after I became enraged at one of Hodges’ pc articles and wrote a comment fantasizing about physical violence against Hodges…felt, that it wasn’t good for my nerves or for my soul to continue commenting there (it’s a waste of time anyway and only gives the Telegraph undeserved revenues for their click-baitish nonsense).
    Odone is pretty horrible, only cares about her precious Catholicism (and her hero-worship of the pope) which she sees under assault from godless secularists (so I’m surprised that she’s friends with Masha Gessen, whose radical agenda goes well beyond anything Richard Dawkins and his like could ever come up with); there’s thinly-veiled sympathy for Islam by her and other Catholics on the Telegraph, like Stanley and Thompson (who some weeks ago wrote in the Spectator how hard it must be for poor Muslims in Britain, with all that totally undeserved “Islamophobia” in the wake of Rotherham and numerous reports of “Britons” enthusiastically torturing and murdering in the service of IS). People like her are one of the reasons why I take a rather negative view of Catholicism (though there are of course exceptions, Ed West is Catholic and writes a lot of very un-pc articles).

  64. This should not get us to say that whites hog all the Nobel prizes, but to try harder, put our noses to the grindstone, and garner more prizes for people of color.

  65. @rod1963
    My 2 cents.

    C.S. Lewis or Nietzsche would have understood going on.

    Simply put the West has committed suicide morally and spiritually. Nietzsche saw this happening in his time and it's come to full fruition over the last 70 years after Europe blew it's brains and endowment for the future out in a suicidal war coupled with the destruction of the family which had been up to this last century the prime cultural transmitter to future generations. The latter has also happened in the U.S. as well when socialism won over traditionalism.

    Now we have a seemingly majority of European and the U.S. whites who have become the "men without chests" as Lewis called them. They believe in nothing and won't fight for anything, even their lives. Most are no better than the Eloi from the movie The Time Machine. They're a joke waiting to be harvested by a successor ethnicity.

    They live on the remains of those that went before them. Look at Europe, at one time it was a artistic and intellectual font, now it's inhabitants are a bunch of hedonistic, secular layabouts welcoming in Muslims by the millions. The Muzzies openly exclaim they'll either convert or kill the unbelievers and the urbane European simply shrugs and drinks his wine. They can't even reproduce anymore, they're dead intellectually, morally and emotionally. They even lack the drive to reproduce. Many of the white American middle and upper classes are no better. They don't see that the culture and the values that made the country strong has been eradicated and replaced by out of control consumerism and a soul crushing socialism.

    We in the U.S. aren't far behind. We're not total pasty faced dweebs like them but our intellectual class is already toast. They're not men, they are brainwashed nothings in trousers and can't reproduce either. There's probably hope for the lower class whites who haven't been gelded and lobotomized like the Ivy League types.

    Lastly as the historian Carroll Quigley said in his last lecture

    "I'm not personally pessimistic. The final result will be that the American people will ultimately prefer communities. They will cop out or opt out of the system. Today everything is a bureaucratic structure, and brainwashed people who are not personalities are trained to fit into this bureaucratic structure and say it is a great life -- although I would assume that many on their death beds must feel otherwise. The process of coping out will take a long time, but notice: we are already coping out of military service on a wholesale basis; we are already copping out of voting on a large scale basis. I heard an estimate tonight that, for the fourth time in sixteen years the President will probably be chosen by but forty percent of the people eligible to vote. People are also copping out by refusing to pay any attention to newspapers or to what's going on in the world, and by increasing their emphasis on the growth of localism, i.e.,what is happening in their own neighborhoods.

    ...
    Now I want to say good night. Do not be pessimistic. Life goes on; life is fun. And if a civilization crashes, it deserves to. When Rome fell, the Christian answer was, "Create our own communities."

    There’s probably hope for the lower class whites who haven’t been gelded and lobotomized like the Ivy League types.

    Linking to college-recruitment thread above…

    …That is *if* the entire brainpower of the middle and lower classes isn’t assimilated into the current educated elite. Schumpeter touched this problem (though mostly its economic implications): a society can only run properly when you have a fair sprinkling of over-talented people at all levels.

  66. “Röntgen did not take patents out on his discoveries, and donated the money for his Nobel prize to the University of Würzburg.”

    Evil White Man.

    Also, Steve, where exactly was the lab where your grandfather worked?

  67. @Art Deco
    We know that Nobel Prizes in literature and peace are largely awarded for political correctness,

    What's 'politically correct' about William Golding or Naguib Mahfouz or Mario Vargas Llosa or Joseph Brodsky or Czeslaw Milosz or Saul Bellow?

    How about Toni Morrison? Guenter Grass? Doris Lessing? Actually, the Nobel Prize for Literature has been awarded to many outstanding writers and quite a few mediocre ones as well (just look at the list of winners to see many most of us have never heard of). What do Tolstoy, Proust, Joyce, Woolf, Borges, Nabakov, Auden and Updike have in common (besides being great writers, of course)? They never won the Nobel Prize for Literature.

    The Peace Prize is the real joke, though. Just ask Barack Obama and Jimmy Carter.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Lessing was a capable literary craftsman.
  68. It will be fascinating to see what the rise of UKIP does to the Tories. It’s not hard to imagine the Tory establishment and its organs becoming ever more ardent champions of PC globalism if its more authentically conservative voters or MPs start boiling off.

    The implications for America would be interesting–what if the WSJ had a party and nobody came?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Britain would benefit from an abrupt and thorough change in the political ecosystem. After the 1993 federal elections in Canada, the Mulroney Conservatives were left with two (2) seats in the House of Commons in Ottawa in favor of the Reform Party based in the western provinces. That's what needs to happen to Cameron's crew. There was a remnant in the Maritimes run by the vapid C.J. Clark for the succeeding dozen years until their general convention elected to merge with the descendant of the Reform Party and put him out on the curb.
  69. @rod1963
    My 2 cents.

    C.S. Lewis or Nietzsche would have understood going on.

    Simply put the West has committed suicide morally and spiritually. Nietzsche saw this happening in his time and it's come to full fruition over the last 70 years after Europe blew it's brains and endowment for the future out in a suicidal war coupled with the destruction of the family which had been up to this last century the prime cultural transmitter to future generations. The latter has also happened in the U.S. as well when socialism won over traditionalism.

    Now we have a seemingly majority of European and the U.S. whites who have become the "men without chests" as Lewis called them. They believe in nothing and won't fight for anything, even their lives. Most are no better than the Eloi from the movie The Time Machine. They're a joke waiting to be harvested by a successor ethnicity.

    They live on the remains of those that went before them. Look at Europe, at one time it was a artistic and intellectual font, now it's inhabitants are a bunch of hedonistic, secular layabouts welcoming in Muslims by the millions. The Muzzies openly exclaim they'll either convert or kill the unbelievers and the urbane European simply shrugs and drinks his wine. They can't even reproduce anymore, they're dead intellectually, morally and emotionally. They even lack the drive to reproduce. Many of the white American middle and upper classes are no better. They don't see that the culture and the values that made the country strong has been eradicated and replaced by out of control consumerism and a soul crushing socialism.

    We in the U.S. aren't far behind. We're not total pasty faced dweebs like them but our intellectual class is already toast. They're not men, they are brainwashed nothings in trousers and can't reproduce either. There's probably hope for the lower class whites who haven't been gelded and lobotomized like the Ivy League types.

    Lastly as the historian Carroll Quigley said in his last lecture

    "I'm not personally pessimistic. The final result will be that the American people will ultimately prefer communities. They will cop out or opt out of the system. Today everything is a bureaucratic structure, and brainwashed people who are not personalities are trained to fit into this bureaucratic structure and say it is a great life -- although I would assume that many on their death beds must feel otherwise. The process of coping out will take a long time, but notice: we are already coping out of military service on a wholesale basis; we are already copping out of voting on a large scale basis. I heard an estimate tonight that, for the fourth time in sixteen years the President will probably be chosen by but forty percent of the people eligible to vote. People are also copping out by refusing to pay any attention to newspapers or to what's going on in the world, and by increasing their emphasis on the growth of localism, i.e.,what is happening in their own neighborhoods.

    ...
    Now I want to say good night. Do not be pessimistic. Life goes on; life is fun. And if a civilization crashes, it deserves to. When Rome fell, the Christian answer was, "Create our own communities."

    I have to agree with Carroll Quigley’s sentiment. However, localization will be the natural succession of the collapse of the center. People are finally waking up to the monumental incompetence of the federal bureaucracy, let alone the state’s. The Fed, the CDC, amongst others, are proving every day how clueless they are. PC can’t be tolerated when it results in economic collapse or deadly epidemics, such as ebola. When confidence in the power center ends, it’s over for centralized control.

  70. @ABN
    It will be fascinating to see what the rise of UKIP does to the Tories. It's not hard to imagine the Tory establishment and its organs becoming ever more ardent champions of PC globalism if its more authentically conservative voters or MPs start boiling off.

    The implications for America would be interesting--what if the WSJ had a party and nobody came?

    Britain would benefit from an abrupt and thorough change in the political ecosystem. After the 1993 federal elections in Canada, the Mulroney Conservatives were left with two (2) seats in the House of Commons in Ottawa in favor of the Reform Party based in the western provinces. That’s what needs to happen to Cameron’s crew. There was a remnant in the Maritimes run by the vapid C.J. Clark for the succeeding dozen years until their general convention elected to merge with the descendant of the Reform Party and put him out on the curb.

  71. @Black Death
    How about Toni Morrison? Guenter Grass? Doris Lessing? Actually, the Nobel Prize for Literature has been awarded to many outstanding writers and quite a few mediocre ones as well (just look at the list of winners to see many most of us have never heard of). What do Tolstoy, Proust, Joyce, Woolf, Borges, Nabakov, Auden and Updike have in common (besides being great writers, of course)? They never won the Nobel Prize for Literature.

    The Peace Prize is the real joke, though. Just ask Barack Obama and Jimmy Carter.

    Lessing was a capable literary craftsman.

  72. @GMR
    A few weeks ago, I saw a periodic table, but instead of the atomic weight and number, each box had a flag of the country where that element was discovered, with a few boxes not colored as they were known to ancients (copper, tin, lead, etc).

    http://public.media.smithsonianmag.com/legacy_blog/06_21_2013_periodic-table.jpg

    The thing that I was really surprised about was that there were no Asian countries represented. The breakdown is:

    UK: 23
    Sweden: 19
    Germany: 19
    US: 17
    France: 17
    Russia: 6
    Austria: 2
    Denmark: 2
    Spain: 2
    Switz: 2
    Finland: 1
    Italy: 1
    Romania: 1

    Nothing from Asia. Now, most of the elements were discovered between about 1750 and 1900. Still, it's amazing that it's not just Europe, but Northern Europe: Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal have 3 elements between them, or 1/6 what Sweden discovered. It looks like most of the elements discovered in the US are elements that don't occur in nature (Californium, Berkelium).

    Japan did find one element on 1908 . The guy who found it thought it was element 43 (Technetium) and named it Nipponium. It was found to be 78 (Rhenium) for which a German got the naming rights.

    So Japan had two elements stolen from her.

    Japan now has an unequivocal element discovered by her, Element 113 (Japonium is the presumptive name). Naturally the white men at IUPAC are trying to delay the naming process as much as possible.

  73. So apparently Jennifer Yu of Northern Virginia “became the first American girl in 27 years to win a title at the World Youth Chess Championship, going undefeated in 11 matches.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/at-12-ashburns-jennifer-yu-wins-world-chess-title-first-us-girl-to-do-so-in-27-years/2014/10/12/920fd028-5025-11e4-8c24-487e92bc997b_story.html?hpid=z5

    Here is the little tidbit about her family background I found amusing and relates to this topic:

    Jennifer was born in Ithaca, N.Y., while her parents were working on their PhDs at Cornell University. Yan Zhang and her husband, Zhiheng Yu, are scientists at the Howard Hughes Medical Institute’s Janelia Farm Research Campus in Ashburn, where a colleague last week won the Nobel Prize in chemistry. They have two other children, Larina, 9, and Oliver, 1.

    Geo-intelligence sorting, eh? It’s a conspiracy!

  74. […] Aaronovitch & Co. promote mass immigration into the West by the most violent, corrupt and intellectually backward groups on […]

  75. @SFG
    This is the Telegraph? Huh? I thought they were the right-wing British paper?

    Oh well...

    Right wing? Well,not really. The owners are of a kind of Middle-Eastern descent,and that makes ALL the difference.

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