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From Ezra Klein’s interview with Ta-Nehisi Coates in Vox:

Even imagining that world, Coates makes ample space for tragedy. When he tries to describe the events that would erase America’s wealth gap, that would see the end of white supremacy, his thoughts flicker to the French Revolution, to the executions and the terror. “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct, and being horrified by the process, maybe even attacking the process. I think these things don’t tend to happen peacefully.”

For Coates, even hope can be covered in blood.

 
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  1. dearieme says:

    “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct, and being horrified by the process, …”: how wonderful to be able to make a living writing such drivel.

    That’s “wonderful” as in a source of wonder.

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    how wonderful to be able to make a living writing such drivel.

    That’s “wonderful” as in a source of wonder.
     
    I am afraid that you do not understand what Coates has in mind. It is your head that he sees rolling away from Madam Guillotine's tender embrace. It is mine too, and all of white humanity. Coates is just saying that after we have all been murdered, he'll be happy to says "oh, well that is too bad, and I am just horrified"

    Coates has signed on to the standard Leftist program - utopia is just a really sincere of program of murder away.

    This is a death match. And you are worried about poor writing?
    , @Expletive Deleted
    As they say in another place; "DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED", but I don't think Coates would be too happy with their particular ambitions.
    It always puzzles me when this sort of bourgie milksop makes these poorly-veiled threats. Where do they think their personal army is coming from? And how long would it last in the field?
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  2. MEH 0910 says:

    http://ta-nehisicoates.com/events/

    Tour Schedule

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    Tuesday, October 3 – New York, NY
    6:00 PM
    One World Imprint Launch with Ta-Nehisi Coates
    Tishman Auditorium: 63 5th Avenue, New York, NY 10003

    https://www.eventbrite.com/e/one-world-launch-with-ta-nehisi-coates-tickets-36496801917?aff=TaNehisSite

    Wednesday, October 4 – Brooklyn, NY
    7:30 PM
    Greenlight Bookstore and The Atlantic: Presents Ta-Nehisi Coates in conversation with Jeffrey Goldberg
    Kings Theatre: 1027 Flatbush Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11226

    http://www.greenlightbookstore.com/coates

    Monday October 9 – Washington, DC
    7:00 PM
    Sankofa Books: Presents Ta-Nehisi Coates in conversation with Kojo Nnamdi
    The Metropolitan AME Church: 1518 M St NW, Washington, DC 20005

    https://www.events.sankofa.com/

    Tuesday, October 10 – Washington, DC
    7:30 PM
    The Smithsonian National Museum of African American History & Culture and The Atlantic: Presents Ta-Nehisi Coates in conversation with Michele Norris
    Heritage Hall: 1400 Constitution Ave NW, Washington, DC 20560

    https://www.si.edu/Events/Calendar/?trumbaEmbed=view%3Devent%26eventid%3D124631049

    Monday, October 16 – Chicago, IL
    7:00 PM
    Chicago Humanities Festival: Presents Ta-Nehisi Coates in conversation with Krista Tippett
    Rockefeller Chapel: 5850 S Woodlawn Ave, Chicago, IL 60637

    http://chicagohumanities.org/events/2017/on-being

    Tuesday October 17 – Chicago, IL
    Family Action Network (FAN): Presents Ta-Nehisi Coates in conversation with Natalie Moore
    Francis W. Parker School: 335 W. Webster St, Chicago, IL 60614
    RSVP Required

    Wednesday, October 18 – Chicago, IL
    The Erikson Institute presents Ta-Nehisi Coates in conversation with Alex Kotlowitz at Erikson’s annual luncheon event.
    RSVP Required
    The Drake Hotel, 140 E. Walton Place, Chicago, IL

    https://50.erikson.edu/2017-annual-luncheon/

    Wednesday, October 18 – Chicago, IL
    7:00 PM
    Family Action Network (FAN): Presents Ta-Nehisi Coates in conversation with Marcus Campbell, Ph.D.
    Evanston Township High School: 1600 Dodge Ave, Evanston, IL 60201
    RSVP Required

    Wednesday, November 1 – Philadelphia, PA
    6:00 PM
    University of Pennsylvania Center of Africana Studies: Presents an evening with Ta-Nehisi Coates
    Zellerbach Theater, Annenberg Center for the Performing Arts: 3680 Walnut Street, Philadelphia, PA 19104

    https://africana.sas.upenn.edu/events/honorable-leon-higginbotham-memorial-lecture-featuring-ta-nehisi-coates

    Thursday, November 2 – Philadelphia, PA
    7:30 PM
    Free Library of Philadelphia: Presents Ta-Nehisi Coates in conversation with Tamala Edwards
    Free Library: 1901 Vine St, Philadelphia, PA 19103

    https://libwww.freelibrary.org/calendar/event/68374

    Sunday, November 5 – Seattle, WA
    7:40 PM
    Seattle Arts & Lectures: Presents Ta-Nehisi Coates in conversation with Ruth Dickey
    Benaroya Hall: 200 University St, Seattle, WA 98101

    http://www.lectures.org/season/special_events.php?id=489

    Monday, November 6 – Los Angeles, CA
    7:30 PM
    Eso Won and Writers Bloc: Presents Ta-Nehisi Coates in conversation with Karen Grigsby Bates
    Willshire Ebell Theatre: 4401 W 8th St, Los Angeles, CA 90005

    http://writersblocpresents.com/main/ta-nehisi-coates/

    Wednesday, November 8 – San Francisco, CA
    7:30 PM
    City Arts & Lectures: Presents Ta-Nehisi Coates in conversation with Alexis Madrigal
    Nourse Theatre: 275 Hayes Street, San Francisco, CA 94102

    http://www.cityarts.net/event/ta-nehisi-coates/

    Saturday, November 11 – Portland, OR
    12:00 PM
    Wordstock Book Festival Presents Ta-Nehisi Coates
    Portland Art Museum: 1219 SW Park Ave Portland, OR 97205

    https://literary-arts.org/what-we-do/wordstock/

    Monday, December 18 – Washington, DC
    7:30 PM
    Sixth & I and The Atlantic: Presents an evening with Ta-Nehisi Coates
    6th & I: 600 I St NW, Washington, DC 20001

    https://www.sixthandi.org/event/ta-nehisi-coates-2/

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  3. It’s always the same end game with these idiots. They know it was always a catastrophic failure and they’re always ready to try again.

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  4. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @White American

    Ezra Klein and Ta Nehisi Coates
     
    https://archive.is/AfNVN/ea558c69a90f1710f00e7af36ed2d198305ad08b.jpg

    Steve, I can’t believe you approved that post.

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    • Replies: @Jack D
    It looks to me like Steve deleted the original link but not the comments so you can still get back to the Nazi level cartoon that White American gave the link to. If you really want to get rid of this filth then you have to delete the comments too.

    iSteve may be infested with anti-Semites, but they are mostly QUALITY anti-Semites, I will give them that. White American is not a quality anti-Semite judging by his taste in cartoons.
    , @European-American
    It's interesting that the comment voicing disapproval at the post appears to be the only thing still making the post visible. Is an Unz site bug creating its very own version of the Streisand effect?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

    I'll agree with Jack D's comment that the cartoon is merely a "poor taste" version of opinions otherwise commonly voiced in more or less roundabout ways on this site. Cartoons are very rude. Let's just ban caricature and continue having QUALITY discussion, shall we?
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  5. Hockamaw says:

    These current year New York liberals might like to fantasize about the Race War. Here in the Heartland we’ve been training for it for 40 years.

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  6. Is Coates basically a decent guy who unfortunately got famous and has to play a role?

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    • Replies: @guest
    No. Nobody forces him to do anything. It's his choice.

    If he doesn't want to dance for them, he can fall back into obscurity with the rest of us. "Oh, what a horrible fate," I lament sarcastically.
    , @AnotherDad

    Is Coates basically a decent guy who unfortunately got famous and has to play a role?
     
    Why? Cause he doesn't beat his wife?

    He's a--really whiny and pathetic--race hustler who amps up a false narrative of "oppression" as being black American's problem, mostly to serve up to the white liberal establishment and make himself a buck. It's an intellectually dishonest and sleazy trade that makes race relations worse and is part of the process of justifying the assault on whites' right to keep their nation.

    If his only intellectual interest is blacks, then he could use his little perch to try and delve into "the black condition" with some actual nuance and honesty. It's not as if it's some big ass mystery what's going on. He choses not to, from some combination of resentment, malice and greed.

    Not a "decent guy".
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  7. @White American

    Ezra Klein and Ta Nehisi Coates
     
    https://archive.is/AfNVN/ea558c69a90f1710f00e7af36ed2d198305ad08b.jpg

    Yer Hebrew looks like Dershowitz. I can’t place the other gentleman.

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  8. Let them eat cash out MacArthur Genius Grants!

    Tennessee Coates has missed the boats. The slow-motion revolution that was destroying the America we all love (except for Tiny Duck and Corvinus of course) is now being killed in childhood. Thank God!

    Anyone care to guess who Napoleon is?

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  9. El Dato says:

    his thoughts flicker to the French Revolution, to the executions and the terror.

    Ah, attention-span disorder.

    The executions and terror of the totalitarian egalitarians came of course a bit after the revolution. Then came the generals. (And before the revolution there was paper money, inflation and price control, but that’s for some other time). Was anybody particularly oppressed in the France of Louis XVI except the Hugenots? I think the major problem was too much Colbertism in the economy and costly wars.

    “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct,”

    You can do away with race as a construct, but doing away with it as fact to be considered is probably harder.

    For Coates, even hope can be covered in blood.

    So what’s wrong with Coates?

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  10. @White American

    Ezra Klein and Ta Nehisi Coates
     
    https://archive.is/AfNVN/ea558c69a90f1710f00e7af36ed2d198305ad08b.jpg

    There was another interview of ta-nehisi coates (did i get that right?) last night on PBS. He came across as good-natured in feature and manner. I read somewhere that he bought an apartment in Paris recently and is having his son educated there. asked if he was writing an important novel, he admitted depreciatingly that he was. i may be reading more into it than is there but i got the sense that he is somewhat bemused at his great good fortune of being the right man at the right time. through the agency of cosmic indifference i have been acquainted with 3 other McArthur genius awardees. Bob Blackburn, a gentlemanly black man who founded an art press in NYC, who was able to retire to the Chelsea Hotel where he deceased. He is described not by name in Joseph O’Neill’s Netherland. I knew Evelyn Fox slightly who took a Ph.D. in math at MIT and went full-bore feminist suprematist apologist which presumably won her her genius. Last I heard she was at Berkeley a prof in their Dept. of Rhetoric (seriously). Vickie Foe was a tall blond noli me tangeri Texas boots wearing goddess type biology major at the U of Texas who wound up maintaining an alternative albeit subsidized bio lab in a picturesque back country setting. i have no idea what alternative biology is.

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    • Replies: @guest
    I think I may have caught a bit of that interview. I thought to myself, "is that the Tennessee Coates?" But didn't care enough to find out. He came off as a dime-a-dozen "clean, articulate black man" complaining about white privilege. Yawn.

    If he were white I'd wonder, "Whose nephew is he?"

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  11. Big Bill says:

    So what is TNC doing these days?

    I remember he moved to Paris to do the American-ex-pat-intellectual voice-crying-in-the-wilderness thing and write some comic books.

    Has he given up on that and moved back here? Didn’t the French welcome him with open arms?

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    • Replies: @whorefinder
    His comic books failed. Not only was he a non-comic book writer, and thus clunky at it, he made them all preachy every third page. Apparently he figured the didactic nonsense that got him dozens of readers and effuse praise in The Atlantic would impress people looking for fun adventure stories.
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  12. Bartolo says:

    Coates as a tricoteuse… few people will get the hint.

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  13. “maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct”

    To “hypostatize” is to “treat or represent (something abstract) as a concrete reality”

    Would this be an example of antihypostatizing?

    And just how does one go about abolishing a construct?

    I think he has found a fancy way of saying “kill white people” while getting well paid for doing so.

    Geez, and they accuse the Alt Right of dogwhistling.

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    I don't think he wants to kill white people, but I think he wants whiteness knocked off of the racial hierarchy. But the problem is there's always a hierarchy, even where there are no whites.
    , @You're overstating
    He's not that good, actually. Tarantino has made way more money than TNC by explicitly sending that message via his movies. Even Jordan Peele has been hugely more successful with Get Out, while being more enlightening, too. After all, who knew that if white is evil and whites are more likely to tolerate milk, then milk=evil?

    Hell, I've even started drinking milk after seeing that, even though I'm lactose-intolerant.
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  14. @White American

    Ezra Klein and Ta Nehisi Coates
     
    https://archive.is/AfNVN/ea558c69a90f1710f00e7af36ed2d198305ad08b.jpg

    This is a great post, but it doesn’t belong on Steve’s site. Don’t fuck up our hard won lack of Komment Kontrol with this stuff.

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    • Agree: Cornbeef, Broski, Kylie
    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    Sometimes the SHORT - SHARP - SHOCK propaganda works better than the book stuff. The WASP / Jew ruling class must be destroyed, and if it takes crude but funny cartoons to do it, so be it.
    , @BenKenobi
    ...and yet Steve allowed it thru as #1 with image embedded.

    With regards to Teh Genius' dreams of guillotines -- be careful what you wish for.

    White Nationalists: Après le deluge, nous.
    , @AndrewR
    Wtf are you talking about? None of my comments are automatically published.
    , @Cornbeef
    This blog is one of the few that maintains a sheen of respectability. It's a beach head and point of access for conversion. I feel comfortable sharing these thinks because pretty much nothing on here would get me fired. I feel comfortable sending these to my boomer Dad.

    One of the most important components of convincing ideological fence sitters to come our way is "Don't scare the normies."

    /end concern troll
    , @Jim Christian
    ISteve is a contributor to Ron Unz's site. Steve approves comments regardless..
    , @Anon
    You seriously thought that was "a great post"?

    And I was just calling you smart yesterday.
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  15. Ta-Nehisi Coates is allowed to go on and on with his anti-White nonsense because the corporate media is mostly owned and controlled by Jews. One benefit that the rising ALT-RIGHT will bring is that they will tell Coates to his face to go to hell. The Jew-controlled corporate media must be dismantled immediately. Some guy who has some clout is in the news talking about confiscating the broadcast license of Comcast and NBC News. That guy seems like he is onto something good.

    Ta-Nehisi Coates is a middling IQ Black who is used by the corporate media to demoralize and attack White Core Americans. The reason why the ALT-RIGHT is gaining strength and power is that White Core America wants someone in politics to tell the corporate media Jews and the Ta-Nehisi-type Blacks to go to hell.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Get on the job of destroying the Jew/wasp world domination already.
    Hint : it won't be accomplished by posting comments online 24/7.
    Do let us know when you have toppled them though, you happy normal person you.
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  16. On topic- these people say they want a revolution, but really what they want is a reign of terror, after which everything is pretty much the same except their enemies are dead. They don’t want to overthrow materialism-consumerism-capitalism, they just want to kill us in hope that they’ll be able to buy more and better stuff.

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    • Agree: flyingtiger, Thea
    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    Disregard the desires of your enemies. The Normans at the bottom of Senlac Hill in 1066 didn't give a damn about what the Saxons wanted. The Normans knew what they wanted: complete and total control of England, and by extension, the whole island.

    That is where Richard Spencer excels. Spencer wants to dislodge the WASP / Jew ruling class and form a new ruling class with the ALT-RIGHT in charge. Assume the bearing of the ruling class, assert your ancestral right to power, and win the day.
    , @Arclight
    Right. They believe that after the hated white majority is subjugated that this country will still be capable of producing the level of wealth it has in the past only it will flow to the virtuously diverse.
    , @Jake
    Reign of terror is what all Liberals want deep down. It takes most of them years to figure that out, and even longer to be able to admit it even to other Liberals. But they want to use fire and sword to destroy everything they deem to be backward, because then they will have created a much better world.
    , @Bleuteaux
    Yes. They want to kill the very people who produce so much abundance that it allows tens, arguably hundreds, of millions of them to never have a job and live a life of leisure. Good luck to them after they get their wish.
    , @Logan
    I wish this were true.

    It's based on the idea that our enemies aren't really invested in their belief system, it's simply an opportunistic pretense to get them wealth and power.

    They do exactly the same to us in reverse. We don't really believe in the principles we promote, they're simply masks used to hide and perpetuate white supremacy. (Which appears to be true for some of the commenters around here.)

    If the leftists were all simply opportunists, they could simply be bought off and co-opted. The problem is they really do believe in what they claim to believe in.
    , @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Agreed.

    The object of revolution may ostensibly be the "people" or "equality" but the vanguard wants anything but equality. The don't want to do away with the king or slavery, they merely want to replace the King and masters with all their trappings of power & privilege.
    , @Forbes
    Yeah, that's the ticket--the French Revolution worked out really well.

    I suppose Tennessee imagines overturning the Monarchy, the Ancien Regime, and feudalism.
    , @Intelligent Dasein
    Liberalism is not a philosophy or a political program. It does not exist to advance an idea or establish a new order. It is simply a means of attack.

    James Burnham pointed this out in the 1940s. Oswald Spengler said it in 1917. And I suppose the recognition has been present in some form or another for as long as there have been liberals (De Meistre comes to mind).

    That liberals are simply and by definition enemies of civilization is something that should be acknowledged and acted upon accordingly, but we are prevented from doing so by the fact that almost all men have inside them the seeds of the same sin, i.e. a pulsating mass of unsublimated covetous and murderous desires that would cause them to join the revolution if it broke out.

    Look around at your fellow human beings and try to bear in mind that the majority of them are either already corrupt or corruptible. They would become mercenaries, pirates, and rebellious hordes if given half a chance.
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  17. @27 year old
    This is a great post, but it doesn't belong on Steve's site. Don't fuck up our hard won lack of Komment Kontrol with this stuff.

    Sometimes the SHORT – SHARP – SHOCK propaganda works better than the book stuff. The WASP / Jew ruling class must be destroyed, and if it takes crude but funny cartoons to do it, so be it.

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  18. @27 year old
    On topic- these people say they want a revolution, but really what they want is a reign of terror, after which everything is pretty much the same except their enemies are dead. They don't want to overthrow materialism-consumerism-capitalism, they just want to kill us in hope that they'll be able to buy more and better stuff.

    Disregard the desires of your enemies. The Normans at the bottom of Senlac Hill in 1066 didn’t give a damn about what the Saxons wanted. The Normans knew what they wanted: complete and total control of England, and by extension, the whole island.

    That is where Richard Spencer excels. Spencer wants to dislodge the WASP / Jew ruling class and form a new ruling class with the ALT-RIGHT in charge. Assume the bearing of the ruling class, assert your ancestral right to power, and win the day.

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    • Replies: @L Woods
    A ruling class comprised of Twitter trolls, wannabe YouTube celebrities and Ivy League rejects. There's a vision to get behind
    , @Jack Hanson
    Sorry but weev has Spencer's number as a dilletante who only cares about Spencer.
    , @Opinionator
    That is where Richard Spencer excels. Spencer wants to dislodge the WASP / Jew ruling class and form a new ruling class with the ALT-RIGHT in charge. Assume the bearing of the ruling class, assert your ancestral right to power, and win the day.

    No one knows what Spencer wants and Spencer doesn't either.
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  19. Arclight says:
    @27 year old
    On topic- these people say they want a revolution, but really what they want is a reign of terror, after which everything is pretty much the same except their enemies are dead. They don't want to overthrow materialism-consumerism-capitalism, they just want to kill us in hope that they'll be able to buy more and better stuff.

    Right. They believe that after the hated white majority is subjugated that this country will still be capable of producing the level of wealth it has in the past only it will flow to the virtuously diverse.

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    • Replies: @Yada yada
    This confirms my belief that blacks still believe in voodoo. The wealth will magically appear without White Europeans to create it.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Arc, I worked with dozens of Amerindians. Never did I hear them say that they would be better off if all the whites vanished. Hell, lots of them were married to white women. They didn't pine for the good old days. What does Coates really think America would be like without the hated race? I think there is a violent streak in his nature. Coates' book was the result of a white women moving his son out of her way. A book. Lots of repressed feelings in that man.
    , @Bill
    Life has gotten a lot better for the black elite in South Africa.
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  20. Barnard says:

    “We have a 20-to-1 wealth gap,” Coates replied. “Every nickel of wealth the average black family has, the average white family has a dollar. What is the world in which that wealth gap is closed? What happens? What makes that possible? What does that look like? What is the process?”

    Well if the average black family has zero agency in their personal wealth management, you are going to have to destroy white wealth in order to close that gap. I would say it looks like Zimbabwe or South Africa. If that is the world Coates wants, why doesn’t he just move to Harare now?

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    average black family
     
    (laughs in 72% illegitimacy rate)
    , @guest
    Blacks have the right to waste their money on spinning rims, dental bling, and anything they please without suffering in comparison to whites because Legacy of Servitude.
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  21. Except that if Wonder Boy’s revolution ever happens, it won’t be French it will be Haitian.

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  22. …maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct…

    Would that require mass killing or would universal lobotomies suffice?

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    • Replies: @Samuel Skinner
    Well, the abolition of monarch as a concept required the execution of the monarch so yeah, it is going to be the former.

    America is weird. The biggest minority is hispanics who, to the best of my knowledge, don't aim to exterminate white people (see all the countries where mestizos are ruled by a white minority). GoodWhites may try to start a reign of terror, but I feel this is more of a 'first as a tragedy, second as a farce' situation.
    , @SMK
    The "complete abolition of race as a construct." What does that mean? Obviously, this psychotic believes that race is an "artificial social construct," but what does it mean to abolish race "as a construct? What laws and policies would be required to abolish race "as a construct" as opposed to a biological reality? He hates whites, obsessively, and secretly wants to exterminate them, physically, albeit whiteness is an "artificial social construct." In a sane country, this white-hating psychotic would be an object of derision, hated and/or pitied by the few whites who know him, or a patient in an insane asylum, rather than exalted as a "great mind" and America's leading black intellectual.
    , @Forbes

    the complete abolition of race as a construct
     
    Pray tell, what would dear ol' Tennessee write about? What would he do? He obsesses about race. His public intellectualness would disappear if his subject matter were no longer.

    Tennessee fits my definition of an expert: Someone who knows more and more about less and less until he knows everything about nothing.
    , @Kylie
    "'…maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct…,

    Would that require mass killing or would universal lobotomies suffice?"

    Ball peen hammers for everyone who passes the Brown Paper Bag Test!
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  23. Well, Coates is just Malcolm X without the religion or even the pretense of self-reliance.

    Upon reflection, it makes sense in this Age of instant gratification. One has to respect Coates’ marketing skill. Self-reliance and discipline are exhausting, so they’re hard products to sell to the aggrieved masses.

    Blaming others is a time-tested strategy. In a twist of delicious irony, he’s unwittingly starting to imitate Mein Kampf.

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    It's as if Klein is toying with us "haha Hey whitey I can send this half wit to gather his goon squad to destroy all you hold dear!"

    I almost feel sorry for Coates. Self reliance and moral restraint aren't remotely possible for him to achieve.

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  24. Mr. Anon says:

    It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes………………

    For those of you not endowed with black-body-eloquence, that means “I might see in my lifetime……”

    In Ta-Nehisi Coates, we see the living embodiment of Lawrence Austers’ concept of “The Empty Black Suit”. Coates is even emptier than the previous reigning champion in that field, Cornel West.

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  25. Noah172 says:

    In reality, bookish Da Hennessy Coates got regular beat-downs from the bigger, meaner black kids in Baltimore.

    He can spell “guillotine,” but no way is he ever dragging anybody to one.

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  26. guest says:

    Ah, the great “contemporary with processes” dilemma.

    What man in the dead of night doesn’t struggle with the Eternal Questions, like: “Is there a God?” “What is my purpose in life?” And of course, “With which processes shall I be contemporary?”

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    And of course, “With which processes shall I be contemporary?”
     
    Algonquin J. Calhoun couldn’t have rhetoricized it any better than that.
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  27. nigel says:
    @White American

    Ezra Klein and Ta Nehisi Coates
     
    https://archive.is/AfNVN/ea558c69a90f1710f00e7af36ed2d198305ad08b.jpg

    I have to agree with 27 year old. That is a little too in your face. Steve’s blog is already pretty edgy for a normie.

    The beauty of Steve’s style is that he just collects what is already in the mainstream media and feeds it to you with a little commentary. When you are a normie, reading it makes you feel a little crime think guilt, but not enough to make you turn tail and run. After all, most of this stuff is printed right there in the NY Times.

    I came here a few years ago from comments Steve left on Econlog and Slate Star Codex. It was my first real wake up call that something was really wrong with the world. Now I can laugh right along with the stuff you posted, but if that had been first comment when I came here I would have dismissed the whole blog out of hand.

    There are a lot of steps between here and full on TRS style red pilling. Most people are never going to get there if we take over sites like Steve’s with the hard stuff.

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  28. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    This public mediocrity must be feeling bolder these days and more comfortable in expressing his race hatred and sadistic impulses. And as he does so more and more chump glassy-eyed whites will rush to put yet more money into his bank account. There’s always been a market for the angry, fist-waving black among a certain segment of the white population. Do any of them ever get tired of being masochists?

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    An oldy but a goody:

    Radical Chic
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  29. I think he might be a bit short-sighted.

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  30. Jake says:
    @27 year old
    On topic- these people say they want a revolution, but really what they want is a reign of terror, after which everything is pretty much the same except their enemies are dead. They don't want to overthrow materialism-consumerism-capitalism, they just want to kill us in hope that they'll be able to buy more and better stuff.

    Reign of terror is what all Liberals want deep down. It takes most of them years to figure that out, and even longer to be able to admit it even to other Liberals. But they want to use fire and sword to destroy everything they deem to be backward, because then they will have created a much better world.

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    But they want to use fire and sword to destroy everything they deem to be backward, because then they will have created a much better world.
     
    It usually has more to do with being their only credible shot at the top - by offing their betters, outright.

    Bolsheviks, Red Guards, Khmer Rouge, etc, etc - Fascism of the Inferior, basically.

    , @pyrrhus
    And then, just as their much desired seizure of power takes place, a Pinochet or Napolean shows up....
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  31. @Harry Baldwin
    ...maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct...

    Would that require mass killing or would universal lobotomies suffice?

    Well, the abolition of monarch as a concept required the execution of the monarch so yeah, it is going to be the former.

    America is weird. The biggest minority is hispanics who, to the best of my knowledge, don’t aim to exterminate white people (see all the countries where mestizos are ruled by a white minority). GoodWhites may try to start a reign of terror, but I feel this is more of a ‘first as a tragedy, second as a farce’ situation.

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  32. kihowi says:
    @White American

    Ezra Klein and Ta Nehisi Coates
     
    https://archive.is/AfNVN/ea558c69a90f1710f00e7af36ed2d198305ad08b.jpg

    Hey we’re supposed to cloak our wokeness in detached drollery here.

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  33. guest says:

    “For Coates, even hope can be covered in blood”

    What possesses a human being to write such a sentence?

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    (H)is thoughts flicker to the French Revolution, to the executions and the terror. “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct, and being horrified by the process, maybe even attacking the process. I think these things don’t tend to happen peacefully.”

    For Coates, even hope can be covered in blood.
     

    The import is obvious ... if one is familiar with the dystopic French Revolution and its blood-letting to the Right, to the Left, and In Between the political extremes to only end up where it started.

    The Greeks had a word for this: catharsis. Ta-Nehisi Coates evidently wants a catharsis in blood... something similar to what happened in Pol Pot's Cambodia. A bloody tantrum. Afterwards, everyone feels better.

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  34. eric says:

    White American…you’re not helping.

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    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    White American…you’re not helping.

     

    Norman foot soldier to Norman horseman at Senlac Hill in 1066: you're not helping.

    Norman horseman to Norman footman: Silence, you brutish knave, and be prepared to mop up the Saxons after we draw them out of their shield wall by repeated cavalry charges and feigned retreats.

    Crude cartoons and honest country songs are highly effective, that is why the Jews who control the media only show boring cartoons and only promote insipidly banal country songs.
    , @Desiderius
    Yeah, that's what we were all taught growing up, but the results have been akin to removing predators from a natural environment - other populations have gone way out of control threatening the stability of the whole system.
    , @Desiderius
    Bad faith only understands bad faith.

    That establishes the communication channel - lacking that all they perceive is weakness begging to be rolled.
    , @Samuel Skinner
    We are dealing with explicit calls for mass murder. Individuals who care more about self-image and status then being slaughtered can be safely ignored. In the end they will chant the slogans of whoever is strong and powerful; attempting to sway them through rational debate is a waste of time.
    , @AndrewR
    He may or may not be helping, but he's certainly not wrong.
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  35. Hockamaw says:
    @White American

    Ezra Klein and Ta Nehisi Coates
     
    https://archive.is/AfNVN/ea558c69a90f1710f00e7af36ed2d198305ad08b.jpg

    Someone please tell me why comments are even moderated here if they’re going to let this kind of trash get posted?

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  36. i won’t pretend to know anything about tennessee coates outside of what i’ve read on isteve, but good lord is that quote from him incoherent. and i assume it has been edited for some clarity. anybody regularly listening to this guy speak must be mutilating his tongue over such grating syntax.

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    Tennessee Coates and Vox are made for each other - they both think they are intellectuals and have important things to say. Oh, and did I mention their moral superiority?
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  37. BenKenobi says:
    @27 year old
    This is a great post, but it doesn't belong on Steve's site. Don't fuck up our hard won lack of Komment Kontrol with this stuff.

    …and yet Steve allowed it thru as #1 with image embedded.

    With regards to Teh Genius’ dreams of guillotines — be careful what you wish for.

    White Nationalists: Après le deluge, nous.

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    Après le deluge, nous.
     
    C’est pas mal, Maître Kenobi.
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  38. Bleuteaux says:
    @27 year old
    On topic- these people say they want a revolution, but really what they want is a reign of terror, after which everything is pretty much the same except their enemies are dead. They don't want to overthrow materialism-consumerism-capitalism, they just want to kill us in hope that they'll be able to buy more and better stuff.

    Yes. They want to kill the very people who produce so much abundance that it allows tens, arguably hundreds, of millions of them to never have a job and live a life of leisure. Good luck to them after they get their wish.

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    Yes and The entire continent of Africa exists on Western welfare basically. They will get what they asked for.
    , @27 year old

    Yes. They want to kill the very people who produce so much abundance that it allows tens, arguably hundreds, of millions of them to never have a job and live a life of leisure. Good luck to them after they get their wish.
     
    "oh they're gonna miss us when we're gone" = losing with dignity

    They would on some level be happier starving, telling themselves about how they finally conquered the White oppressor.
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  39. Yada yada says:

    This is the reason we kept coloreds in their place in the South. They will forever have the tendency to act like the Africans they are. Yes, Mr Coates, we know all about African savagery.

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  40. Those of us whom Mr. Coates fantasizes of killing are heavily armed, will fight back, and the rank and file of the military still are on our side.

    The way the country has become divided against itself appalls me.

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  41. @eric
    White American...you're not helping.

    White American…you’re not helping.

    Norman foot soldier to Norman horseman at Senlac Hill in 1066: you’re not helping.

    Norman horseman to Norman footman: Silence, you brutish knave, and be prepared to mop up the Saxons after we draw them out of their shield wall by repeated cavalry charges and feigned retreats.

    Crude cartoons and honest country songs are highly effective, that is why the Jews who control the media only show boring cartoons and only promote insipidly banal country songs.

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    Your ongoing fetish for the Normans is interesting, given that:

    a. The first documented Jews to come to England came with the Norman invaders (William wanted to use them as tax collectors)

    b. The Norman army was a multicultural army (some two-thirds Bretons, Flemings, and misc others) attacking Saxons defending hearth and home

    c. Following the Conquest, Jews were granted special privileges and protection by the Norman/French monarchy, until the reign of Edward I
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  42. Yada yada says:
    @Arclight
    Right. They believe that after the hated white majority is subjugated that this country will still be capable of producing the level of wealth it has in the past only it will flow to the virtuously diverse.

    This confirms my belief that blacks still believe in voodoo. The wealth will magically appear without White Europeans to create it.

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    Yada, Of course, wealth springs up from our "magic dirt."
    , @Bill
    It's worse than that. They never even think about the question of where the wealth comes from.
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  43. Logan says:
    @27 year old
    On topic- these people say they want a revolution, but really what they want is a reign of terror, after which everything is pretty much the same except their enemies are dead. They don't want to overthrow materialism-consumerism-capitalism, they just want to kill us in hope that they'll be able to buy more and better stuff.

    I wish this were true.

    It’s based on the idea that our enemies aren’t really invested in their belief system, it’s simply an opportunistic pretense to get them wealth and power.

    They do exactly the same to us in reverse. We don’t really believe in the principles we promote, they’re simply masks used to hide and perpetuate white supremacy. (Which appears to be true for some of the commenters around here.)

    If the leftists were all simply opportunists, they could simply be bought off and co-opted. The problem is they really do believe in what they claim to believe in.

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    We don’t really believe in the principles we promote, they’re simply masks used to hide and perpetuate white supremacy.
     
    What are you babbling about? Do you seriously want to be ruled by blacks? Do you even know what "white supremacy" means?
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  44. @Arclight
    Right. They believe that after the hated white majority is subjugated that this country will still be capable of producing the level of wealth it has in the past only it will flow to the virtuously diverse.

    Arc, I worked with dozens of Amerindians. Never did I hear them say that they would be better off if all the whites vanished. Hell, lots of them were married to white women. They didn’t pine for the good old days. What does Coates really think America would be like without the hated race? I think there is a violent streak in his nature. Coates’ book was the result of a white women moving his son out of her way. A book. Lots of repressed feelings in that man.

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  45. Cynical says:

    The funny part is Ta-Nehisi Coates is right….

    Most of your conservaboomers assume that white American conservatives will win Civil War 2…

    “Look at who has all the guns… it will be the shortest Civil War evah!”

    “All conservatives have guns, just wait until Uncle Bob starts shooting back with his 30-30! Those liberals will be in real trouble then!”

    No, sorry, it won’t turn out like the “Turner Diaries”…

    1. More than 100 years of (((programming))) has made your average Amerikwan as easy to manipulate as a bowl of spaghetti…

    2. Look at what happened after Oklahoma City… 9-11… Charlottesville… all you need is for one “white terrorist” act to occur and your average Kwan will be back to waving his flag like a good little goy…

    3. I imagine you will see a lot of ads like this on Craigslist: “Conservative AR-15 for sale, never fired but only dropped once.”

    4. Seriously, you think your average fat, wheezing boomer conservatard is going to get his overweight ass his couch to fight a war? You really believe that? We can’t even get these lardmasses to turn off their Talmudvision and fooseball. Good luck once hot lead is flying!

    5. “But don’t we have Trump, the police and U.S. military on our side?” Do you really? What happens when your beloved GOP impeaches Trump? And take a good look at your average city police force…filled with blacks, Mexican, etc. The U.S. Army. is filled with Mexican narco gang members. And just wait until the (((Deep State)))) makes the accusation that “white nationalists” are on the same side as the Iranians and Russian or Moooslims. Your average Mexican GI will have no problem mowing you down like an average Palestinian.

    In short, most Amerikwans will be on the side of Ta-Nehisi Coates and (((our leaders))) in the event our cultural cold war here in the U.S. goes hot.

    “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct, and being horrified by the process, maybe even attacking the process. I think these things don’t tend to happen peacefully.” – cries out the Kwan as walks himself voluntarily into his local FEMA camp.

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    The bugman whistles loudly past the graveyard.
    , @dr kill
    Welcome to you, Cynical. I see today's comment is your first. Many of us old, fat guys don't read much better than we walk, so try to organize your thoughts a bit better for us. TY.
    , @Joe Stalin
    Who knows? Other US citizens have thought the same and one person decided to do something about it, Jack Dailey, a former Chicagoan. He decided to create Project Appleseed in April 2006.

    "Project Appleseed started from a series of ads that became ads with monthly columns appearing in Shotgun News, a monthly gun trade newspaper publication. These ads were written under a pseudonym by a fellow who simply called himself "Fred". "Fred," the founder of Project Appleseed, whose real name is Jack Dailey, has been writing a column—actually a portion of ad space for Fred's M14 Stocks—since 1999.[8] A common theme in these columns is "Are you a cook or a rifleman?", a "cook" being Fred's term for an unqualified rifleman. The name of the project was in deference to Johnny Appleseed, an American pioneer nurseryman and grass roots missionary who traveled the American frontier planting apple trees across the land with the goal of spreading the number of apple trees in America; Fred's goal was to accomplish the same with civic-minded Riflemen in America. Project Appleseed itself began in April 2006 in Ramseur, North Carolina.[4]"

    How effective has Appleseed been to train Americans in the proper use of semi-automatic rifles like your 'once dropped AR-15?'

    "In 2006, Appleseed instructors began a national tour to attract new instructors who could maintain and develop local programs.[9] In 2008, Appleseed had nearly 4,000 attendees. In 2009, there were more than 450 scheduled Appleseed events that taught 10,000 shooters. In 2010, 32,000 had been taught to shoot by the end of the year.[8] In 2012, there were over 1,000 Appleseeds held, by which time over 40,000 shooters had been taught. In addition, a select cadre of Appleseed instructors from across the nation gathered at Fort Stewart, GA and taught a deploying Army unit in marksmanship skills in 2012. By late 2014, over 75,000 shooters had been taught."

    "An Appleseed contains breaks during which oral histories are told of the events leading up to the American Revolution, specifically the Battles of Lexington and Concord, and the subsequent British retreat to Boston. Also told are the Three Strikes of the Match, of the 3 events along Battle Road that had to occur prior to the Revolutionary War flaming into a full-out war.[2] These oral histories include an overview of the events of April 18–20, 1775 but focus on stories of individuals such as Paul Revere, Dr. Samuel Prescott, and William Dawes; Captains John Parker (Lexington), Isaac Davis (Acton), and Hezekiah Wyman; Elizabeth Zane; and octogenarian Samuel Whittemore, the oldest known colonial combatant in the American Revolutionary War.[1][4] Stories of Daniel Morgan and his Morgan's Riflemen are also told. Known Distance Appleseeds often add stories featuring Patrick Ferguson and Timothy Murphy, who were riflemen that played major roles at the Battle of Brandywine, Second Battle of Saratoga, and the Battle of Kings Mountain."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Appleseed

    I recommend ANYONE with a rifle to sign up for a Project Appleseed (RWVA.org) and for those who don't, to purchase an AR. Bargains abound in AR-15s now. According the CBS News, there are between 5 to 10M ARs in America. You will learn to engage "Redcoat" targets out to 400 yards with open sights.

    An AR at home and the confidence in yourself to use it properly; what could be scarier to TPTB?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJqx0qfPWlg
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  46. mobi says:

    White American…you’re not helping.

    Depends on who he’s trying to help.

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  47. @eric
    White American...you're not helping.

    Yeah, that’s what we were all taught growing up, but the results have been akin to removing predators from a natural environment – other populations have gone way out of control threatening the stability of the whole system.

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    I disagree. The argument against rac[e real]ism that has mass cultural currency is that racism is a delusion of the rabidly deranged (think gentile JPods). Use of the n-word, in virtually any circumstance, bolsters that argument.
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  48. mobi says:

    OT:

    According to The Economist ‘Intelligence Unit’, Chicago is actually one of 3 safest US cities – 19th in the entire world.

    Because, you see, Mayor Rahm Emmanuel’s ‘initiative in cybersecurity training through local colleges and the Department of Defense’ trumps actual murder.

    Take that, Trumpkins!

    http://safecities.economist.com/safe-cities-index-2017-infographic

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    The Economist, by which you mean the official organ of the Rothschild family? (Shhh they don't exist.)
    , @Forbes
    Chicago. at one-third the size of NYC, has more murders than NYC, but is ranked safer.

    Must be New Math.
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  49. @eric
    White American...you're not helping.

    Bad faith only understands bad faith.

    That establishes the communication channel – lacking that all they perceive is weakness begging to be rolled.

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    "[L]lacking that all they perceive is weakness begging to be rolled."

    You don't have to use slurs to avoid being perceived as weak. For those of you familiar with Game of Thrones, who is the most charismatic leader? The one with the most gravitas?

    Tywin Lannister, of course. That character is a depiction of tremendous power and competence. He never loses his temper. Can you imagine Dance's Lannister saying the word ni@@3r in anger? No.
    , @Broski
    In further response, what does work? Pepe the Frog works--ridicule. Even the Happy Merchant works, appropriately applied, because it evidences universal truths that are not widely acknowledged in polite company. Calling our hereditary, formerly enslaved underclass slurs is not helpful.
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  50. I caught a snippet of Colbert on his knees begging Coates for absolution. There is some pathological shit going on out there.

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    Blunt opposition, presented honestly and forthrightly, tends to bring out more authentic respect in the kinds of people who are involved in matters of power than a groveling, impotent yet pompous ally. Case in point: the fact that Robert Mugabe might have hated Ian Smith, but also genuinely respected him, far more so than his white liberal allies.

    Bin Laden had it right: people just innately prefer strong horses to weak ones.

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  51. @eric
    White American...you're not helping.

    We are dealing with explicit calls for mass murder. Individuals who care more about self-image and status then being slaughtered can be safely ignored. In the end they will chant the slogans of whoever is strong and powerful; attempting to sway them through rational debate is a waste of time.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Where is the explicit call for mass murder?
    , @mobi

    We are dealing with explicit calls for mass murder. Individuals who care more about self-image and status then being slaughtered can be safely ignored. In the end they will chant the slogans of whoever is strong and powerful; attempting to sway them through rational debate is a waste of time.
     
    Missed the point.
    , @L Woods
    Does the term "boots and suits" mean nothing to you? The iSteve corner of the dissident right requires a certain degree of gentility to properly fill its role in the wider division of labor as an attractor to disaffected professionals and intellectuals. Boorishly offensive imagery like the above is wholly counterproductive here.
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  52. For Coates, French Revolution might just be a code-phrase for Haitian Revolution.

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    I suspect that you're right. Why blatant haters like Coates can't learn from Rhodesia/Zimbabwe's experience with ousting the evil, demonic white man is beyond me. If Coates and his ilk ever get what they want it's going to be a classic case of "Be careful what you wish for---because you just might get it."
    , @nebulafox
    If Coates knew history a little better, he'd know what Napoleon eventually did to L'Ouverture.

    Matter of fact, here's a historical irony: it was a pragmatic conservative President that backed the Haitian Revolution (partially because Adams profoundly despised slavery, partially because Adams saw a way of hoisting revolutionary France by its own petard. There's never a better way of screwing with revolutionary states than forcing them to live up to their own ideals.), it was a liberal idealist President that backed the French in suppressing it in what would prove to be an extremely nasty guerrilla war that Napoleon would look back upon on St. Helena with regret. That kind of forms a nice historical predecessor insofar as the real dynamics between white liberals and black people.

    , @Charles Pewitt
    I had to read CLR James's Black Jacobins about the Haitian turmoil. Burke said it best about Haiti, to roughly quote: The hostile sword is merciful, the island itself is the dreaded enemy.

    https://twitter.com/argumento_/status/899529629026852864
    , @Broski
    The Haitian Revolution was justice, if ever there was such a thing. America ca. 2017 is not St. Domingue.
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  53. SMK says: • Website
    @Harry Baldwin
    ...maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct...

    Would that require mass killing or would universal lobotomies suffice?

    The “complete abolition of race as a construct.” What does that mean? Obviously, this psychotic believes that race is an “artificial social construct,” but what does it mean to abolish race “as a construct? What laws and policies would be required to abolish race “as a construct” as opposed to a biological reality? He hates whites, obsessively, and secretly wants to exterminate them, physically, albeit whiteness is an “artificial social construct.” In a sane country, this white-hating psychotic would be an object of derision, hated and/or pitied by the few whites who know him, or a patient in an insane asylum, rather than exalted as a “great mind” and America’s leading black intellectual.

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    The “complete abolition of race as a construct.” What does that mean?
     
    I think it's a bit of the old motte and bailey, where when challenged they'd say "I just want to de-construct the idea of whitness" or somesuch, where in practice that would be best accomplished by grand efforts to make everyone some reasonably dull shade of brown.
    , @Sygurd

    Obviously, this psychotic believes that race is an “artificial social construct”
     
    He doesn't though. Tallahassee believes white, ahrem, sorry "people who think they are white" are artificial devils (created by Yakub maybe?), but his blackness is obviously very important and very real to him.
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  54. So much ink spilled about Genius Coates, but I’ve never seen anything objective analyzing his relationship with his Black Panther father.

    They say racism & hate are inherited. Did Coates get his sense of racial grievance from his father? Not so many Whites in his Baltimore ‘hood going around and oppressing the little bookish Black lads… They probably outsourced it to the Black bullies, thugs & gang-bangers that made his youth unpleasant.

    So now we have Genius Coates continuing the tradition of instilling hate in his boy, teaching racial paranoia about microaggressions against rambunctious young Black bodies along with fantasies about bloody revolution.

    Charming.

    An officially sponsored revolutionary who wants to see Whites bleed, dead or enslaved to bring righteous justice of reparations for segregation, jim crow and slavery.

    This guy is filled with genuine hate that is the mirror image of Andrew Anglin.

    One is celebrated while was purged from his puny platform from which he was sniping at the margins.

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  55. @Samuel Skinner
    We are dealing with explicit calls for mass murder. Individuals who care more about self-image and status then being slaughtered can be safely ignored. In the end they will chant the slogans of whoever is strong and powerful; attempting to sway them through rational debate is a waste of time.

    Where is the explicit call for mass murder?

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  56. @SMK
    The "complete abolition of race as a construct." What does that mean? Obviously, this psychotic believes that race is an "artificial social construct," but what does it mean to abolish race "as a construct? What laws and policies would be required to abolish race "as a construct" as opposed to a biological reality? He hates whites, obsessively, and secretly wants to exterminate them, physically, albeit whiteness is an "artificial social construct." In a sane country, this white-hating psychotic would be an object of derision, hated and/or pitied by the few whites who know him, or a patient in an insane asylum, rather than exalted as a "great mind" and America's leading black intellectual.

    The “complete abolition of race as a construct.” What does that mean?

    I think it’s a bit of the old motte and bailey, where when challenged they’d say “I just want to de-construct the idea of whitness” or somesuch, where in practice that would be best accomplished by grand efforts to make everyone some reasonably dull shade of brown.

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  57. Jeff77450 says:
    @Millennial
    For Coates, French Revolution might just be a code-phrase for Haitian Revolution.

    I suspect that you’re right. Why blatant haters like Coates can’t learn from Rhodesia/Zimbabwe’s experience with ousting the evil, demonic white man is beyond me. If Coates and his ilk ever get what they want it’s going to be a classic case of “Be careful what you wish for—because you just might get it.”

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    It will be interesting to see if Coates becomes more and more radicalized, eventually to the point of openly and explicitly advocating for violence.
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  58. @27 year old
    On topic- these people say they want a revolution, but really what they want is a reign of terror, after which everything is pretty much the same except their enemies are dead. They don't want to overthrow materialism-consumerism-capitalism, they just want to kill us in hope that they'll be able to buy more and better stuff.

    Agreed.

    The object of revolution may ostensibly be the “people” or “equality” but the vanguard wants anything but equality. The don’t want to do away with the king or slavery, they merely want to replace the King and masters with all their trappings of power & privilege.

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  59. AndrewR says:
    @27 year old
    This is a great post, but it doesn't belong on Steve's site. Don't fuck up our hard won lack of Komment Kontrol with this stuff.

    Wtf are you talking about? None of my comments are automatically published.

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    Mine are. Or near enough as makes no never mind.
    , @27 year old
    Make better quality comments or send Steve money.
    , @dr kill
    Welcome to the club.
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  60. AndrewR says:
    @eric
    White American...you're not helping.

    He may or may not be helping, but he’s certainly not wrong.

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  61. mobi says:
    @Samuel Skinner
    We are dealing with explicit calls for mass murder. Individuals who care more about self-image and status then being slaughtered can be safely ignored. In the end they will chant the slogans of whoever is strong and powerful; attempting to sway them through rational debate is a waste of time.

    We are dealing with explicit calls for mass murder. Individuals who care more about self-image and status then being slaughtered can be safely ignored. In the end they will chant the slogans of whoever is strong and powerful; attempting to sway them through rational debate is a waste of time.

    Missed the point.

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  62. nebulafox says:

    The trouble with the right-wing in this country has always been that they just don’t know when to shut up and let their enemies tie the noose around their own neck.

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  63. nebulafox says:
    @Millennial
    For Coates, French Revolution might just be a code-phrase for Haitian Revolution.

    If Coates knew history a little better, he’d know what Napoleon eventually did to L’Ouverture.

    Matter of fact, here’s a historical irony: it was a pragmatic conservative President that backed the Haitian Revolution (partially because Adams profoundly despised slavery, partially because Adams saw a way of hoisting revolutionary France by its own petard. There’s never a better way of screwing with revolutionary states than forcing them to live up to their own ideals.), it was a liberal idealist President that backed the French in suppressing it in what would prove to be an extremely nasty guerrilla war that Napoleon would look back upon on St. Helena with regret. That kind of forms a nice historical predecessor insofar as the real dynamics between white liberals and black people.

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    If Coates knew history a little better, he’d know what Napoleon eventually did to L’Ouverture.
     
    I think that Coates is probably keener on Jean-Jacques Dessalines.......

    The 1804 Haiti massacre was carried out against the remaining white population of native French people and French Creoles (or Franco-Haitians) in Haiti by Haitian soldiers under orders from Jean-Jacques Dessalines, who had decreed that all suspected of conspiring in the acts of the expelled army should be put to death.[1] Throughout the nineteenth century, these events were well known in the United States, where they were called "the horrors of St. Domingo" and they polarized Southern public opinion on the question of the abolition of slavery.[2][3]
    The massacre, which took place throughout Haiti, occurred from early February 1804 until 22 April 1804 and resulted in the deaths of 3,000 to 5,000 men, women, and children.[4]
    Squads of soldiers moved from house to house, torturing and killing entire families.[5] Even whites who had been friendly and sympathetic to the black population were imprisoned and later killed.[6] A second wave of massacres targeted white women and children.[6]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_massacre

    Jean-Jacques Dessalines (French pronunciation: ​[ʒɑ̃ ʒak dɛs.salin]; 20 September 1758 – 17 October 1806) was a leader of the Haitian Revolution and the first ruler of an independent Haiti under the 1805 constitution. Initially regarded as governor-general, Dessalines named later Emperor Jacques I of Haiti (1804–1806) by the Generals of the Haitian Revolution Army.[1]He is regarded as a founding father of Haiti.[2]
    Dessalines served as an officer in the French army, when the colony was fending off Spanish and British incursions. Later he rose to become a commander in the revolt against France. As Toussaint Louverture's principal lieutenant, he led many successful engagements, including the Battle of Crête-à-Pierrot.
    After the betrayal and capture of Toussaint Louverture in 1802, Dessalines became the leader of the revolution. He defeated a French army at the Battle of Vertières in 1803. Declaring Haiti an independent nation in 1804, Dessalines was chosen by a council of generals to assume the office of governor-general. He ordered the 1804 Haiti massacre of the white Haitian minority, resulting in the deaths of between 3,000 and 5,000 people, between February and April 1804.[3] In September 1804, he was proclaimed emperor by the Generals of the Haitian Revolution Army and ruled in that capacity until being assassinated in 1806.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Jacques_Dessalines
    , @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Autodidact Genius Coates' problem is that he has a little bit of self-selected knowledge layered on a lot of wilful ignorance. It's what makes him so confident... and so dangerous.

    Dunning Krueger given a magazine column and a pulpit.

    Our generation's Father Coughlin amplified by a new medium preaching hate to the masses.
    , @Millennial
    Another irony is that, supposedly, the Haitians were first exposed to Revolutionary ideals when a regiment of them in the service of Bourbon France (as sepoys, essentially) participated in the 1779 Franco-American siege of Savannah.
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  64. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    And why don’t we just end all these problems by segregating whites from others?

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    Because Jews don't want that.
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  65. Forbes says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    ...maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct...

    Would that require mass killing or would universal lobotomies suffice?

    the complete abolition of race as a construct

    Pray tell, what would dear ol’ Tennessee write about? What would he do? He obsesses about race. His public intellectualness would disappear if his subject matter were no longer.

    Tennessee fits my definition of an expert: Someone who knows more and more about less and less until he knows everything about nothing.

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    I love the lyrical definition of expert.

    I've often said that an expert is someone who knows everything but understands nothing.
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  66. AndrewR says:

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Coates’ perpetual resentment is not really towards People Who Believe They Are White in a society he perceives as White Supremacist, nor is it even towards the anti-intellectual Black Body majority who ceaselessly tormented him for being nerdy and bookish as a child.

    Nay: the gargantuan chip on his shoulder primarily stems from the fact that he has an absolutely hideous (albeit highly symmetrical) face. Being more physically repulsive than >98% of the population must have a very scarring effect on the psyche. But writing about how awful white people are is more profitable than writing about how much it sucks to look like a big mouth bass.

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    I'll wager that's as good an explanation of Coates as any other. I look at pix of him, and I'm not seeing what you're seeing. They're quite inconsistent one to the other, much more so than that of an ordinary person. I think for women into black men, he does all right from some perspectives.

    A critic of Coates who has read his memoir says he gets into his young adult years before you encounter an anecdote of a white person actually doing him dirt, and even that story is about something fairly inconsequential (rude woman on an elevator, IIRC). The problems blacks have faced the last 40-odd years have very little to do with things whites do to them (albeit something to do with things the majority has refrained from doing). Coates does not recognize what's missing, in part because he lacks a certain academic background and in part because acknowledging what actually is missing would be emotionally upsetting.
    , @PaddyPearse
    He looks like he has Zika.
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  67. Steve you told us its a class thing and the reason the Left wants to take our guns is protect Raven and Brylynne from black gangbangers shooting everything, so what gives?

    Cause it sure sounds like Coates wants a race war against unarmed kulaks.

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    The Left is not a monolith. Among other coalition members are lefty middle class white parents of Raven and Brylynne; leaders of the organized, ethnocentric Jewish community (Chuck Schumer, Bloomberg, Feinstein, Kagan/RBG, countless others); and blacks. Each can have a different attitude toward guns, abortion, and everything else.
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  68. L Woods says:
    @Samuel Skinner
    We are dealing with explicit calls for mass murder. Individuals who care more about self-image and status then being slaughtered can be safely ignored. In the end they will chant the slogans of whoever is strong and powerful; attempting to sway them through rational debate is a waste of time.

    Does the term “boots and suits” mean nothing to you? The iSteve corner of the dissident right requires a certain degree of gentility to properly fill its role in the wider division of labor as an attractor to disaffected professionals and intellectuals. Boorishly offensive imagery like the above is wholly counterproductive here.

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    These are also the same people who think the highest level of allowable resitance is posting pithy comments on niche blogs until they're tossed in a gulag.

    HTFU.
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  69. nebulafox says:
    @Desiderius
    I caught a snippet of Colbert on his knees begging Coates for absolution. There is some pathological shit going on out there.

    Blunt opposition, presented honestly and forthrightly, tends to bring out more authentic respect in the kinds of people who are involved in matters of power than a groveling, impotent yet pompous ally. Case in point: the fact that Robert Mugabe might have hated Ian Smith, but also genuinely respected him, far more so than his white liberal allies.

    Bin Laden had it right: people just innately prefer strong horses to weak ones.

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  70. syonredux says:
    @nebulafox
    If Coates knew history a little better, he'd know what Napoleon eventually did to L'Ouverture.

    Matter of fact, here's a historical irony: it was a pragmatic conservative President that backed the Haitian Revolution (partially because Adams profoundly despised slavery, partially because Adams saw a way of hoisting revolutionary France by its own petard. There's never a better way of screwing with revolutionary states than forcing them to live up to their own ideals.), it was a liberal idealist President that backed the French in suppressing it in what would prove to be an extremely nasty guerrilla war that Napoleon would look back upon on St. Helena with regret. That kind of forms a nice historical predecessor insofar as the real dynamics between white liberals and black people.

    If Coates knew history a little better, he’d know what Napoleon eventually did to L’Ouverture.

    I think that Coates is probably keener on Jean-Jacques Dessalines…….

    The 1804 Haiti massacre was carried out against the remaining white population of native French people and French Creoles (or Franco-Haitians) in Haiti by Haitian soldiers under orders from Jean-Jacques Dessalines, who had decreed that all suspected of conspiring in the acts of the expelled army should be put to death.[1] Throughout the nineteenth century, these events were well known in the United States, where they were called “the horrors of St. Domingo” and they polarized Southern public opinion on the question of the abolition of slavery.[2][3]
    The massacre, which took place throughout Haiti, occurred from early February 1804 until 22 April 1804 and resulted in the deaths of 3,000 to 5,000 men, women, and children.[4]
    Squads of soldiers moved from house to house, torturing and killing entire families.[5] Even whites who had been friendly and sympathetic to the black population were imprisoned and later killed.[6] A second wave of massacres targeted white women and children.[6]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_massacre

    Jean-Jacques Dessalines (French pronunciation: ​[ʒɑ̃ ʒak dɛs.salin]; 20 September 1758 – 17 October 1806) was a leader of the Haitian Revolution and the first ruler of an independent Haiti under the 1805 constitution. Initially regarded as governor-general, Dessalines named later Emperor Jacques I of Haiti (1804–1806) by the Generals of the Haitian Revolution Army.[1]He is regarded as a founding father of Haiti.[2]
    Dessalines served as an officer in the French army, when the colony was fending off Spanish and British incursions. Later he rose to become a commander in the revolt against France. As Toussaint Louverture’s principal lieutenant, he led many successful engagements, including the Battle of Crête-à-Pierrot.
    After the betrayal and capture of Toussaint Louverture in 1802, Dessalines became the leader of the revolution. He defeated a French army at the Battle of Vertières in 1803. Declaring Haiti an independent nation in 1804, Dessalines was chosen by a council of generals to assume the office of governor-general. He ordered the 1804 Haiti massacre of the white Haitian minority, resulting in the deaths of between 3,000 and 5,000 people, between February and April 1804.[3] In September 1804, he was proclaimed emperor by the Generals of the Haitian Revolution Army and ruled in that capacity until being assassinated in 1806.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Jacques_Dessalines

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    Syon, Thank you for the lesson in Haitian history. I truly learn something each day at iSteve's.
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  71. Forbes says:
    @27 year old
    On topic- these people say they want a revolution, but really what they want is a reign of terror, after which everything is pretty much the same except their enemies are dead. They don't want to overthrow materialism-consumerism-capitalism, they just want to kill us in hope that they'll be able to buy more and better stuff.

    Yeah, that’s the ticket–the French Revolution worked out really well.

    I suppose Tennessee imagines overturning the Monarchy, the Ancien Regime, and feudalism.

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    What's evident from Tennessee's statements, and what proves that he's a dunce as Steve alleges, is that he truly still believes--in 2017--that race is a biological construct. I think much of the non-stupid mainstream left is starting to have serious doubts.
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  72. @Millennial
    For Coates, French Revolution might just be a code-phrase for Haitian Revolution.

    I had to read CLR James’s Black Jacobins about the Haitian turmoil. Burke said it best about Haiti, to roughly quote: The hostile sword is merciful, the island itself is the dreaded enemy.

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    Charles, I am missing the point about the "dreaded island." The Dominican Republic portion of the shared island seems to do quite nicely.
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  73. syonredux says:

    “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct, and being horrified by the process, maybe even attacking the process. I think these things don’t tend to happen peacefully.”

    I tend to think that the real reason why Coates would be horrified by the “complete abolition of race as a construct” is that that would mean that he would have nothing to write about…..

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  74. Cornbeef says:
    @27 year old
    This is a great post, but it doesn't belong on Steve's site. Don't fuck up our hard won lack of Komment Kontrol with this stuff.

    This blog is one of the few that maintains a sheen of respectability. It’s a beach head and point of access for conversion. I feel comfortable sharing these thinks because pretty much nothing on here would get me fired. I feel comfortable sending these to my boomer Dad.

    One of the most important components of convincing ideological fence sitters to come our way is “Don’t scare the normies.”

    /end concern troll

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    Agreed
    The articles here are a precious pearl of quality without animus. It is a very good first step to wake people up. Plenty of other websites offer material like that.
    , @Clyde
    Well stated. People posting at iSteve must learn to phrase their concerns in a normal enough manner. 99% of posters already do.
    , @snorlax
    And here I am, working as a software developer in Boston, trying to imagine what (white-collar, assuming that describes you) industries in what parts of the country exist where the typical Steve post (+comments) would not get one fired. (Not to mention I haven't gathered the courage to send one to my boomer Trump-supporter dad...)
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  75. Broski says:

    I saw Coates on the PBS News Hour last night. Previously it had seemed unkind of Steve to call him none too bright, but after seeing the interview I must agree.

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    The problem was identified by Thomas Sowell a generation ago. The Anointed confound general intelligence with expertise, then confound articulateness with general intelligence. Journalism is shot through with articulate people, who are articulate, full stop.
    , @Alfa158
    You should check out this performance:
    https://youtu.be/Ytt1j_7TImU
    His handler from the Atlantic, Jeff Goldberg, was also there to amplify and agree and help him out whenever he stumbled. What was really creepy was the way Jeff kept fawning over Tennessee , calling him repeatedly my very, very good friend. Eventually even Tennessee starts looking visibly uncomfortable like he was afraid that Jeff might invite him home for a little cuckold voyeur action.
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  76. Bill says:
    @Arclight
    Right. They believe that after the hated white majority is subjugated that this country will still be capable of producing the level of wealth it has in the past only it will flow to the virtuously diverse.

    Life has gotten a lot better for the black elite in South Africa.

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    How so?
    , @L Woods
    And that, as ever, is what really counts.
    , @bomag

    Life has gotten a lot better for the ____ elite in ______.
     
    Not the model of choice.
    , @Bill
    Instead of hiding out in Angola or languishing in prison, they have wealth and power.
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  77. @Bill
    Life has gotten a lot better for the black elite in South Africa.

    How so?

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    Instead of hiding out in Angola or languishing in prison, they have wealth and power.
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  78. syonredux says:

    For TNC, it’s still pre-1965, and America is a Black and White country:

    Last week, I interviewed Coates for my podcast. I asked him to describe the world in which justice had been done, in which equality had been achieved, in which hope was merited. “We have a 20-to-1 wealth gap,” Coates replied. “Every nickel of wealth the average black family has, the average white family has a dollar. What is the world in which that wealth gap is closed? What happens? What makes that possible? What does that look like? What is the process?”

    I wonder if TNC ever contemplates the Black-Asian wealth gap……

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    syon, the wealth gap would be far worse if whites stopped giving part of their "wealth" to the black community. The city of Buffalo's school district is majority minority, mostly blacks., but the school district's billion dollar budget receives less than 8% from the City of Buffalo. If Buffalo's school kids had to count on their black neighbors for an education and a free lunch, they would be waiting a long, long time.
    , @Jack D
    Notice he talks about a WEALTH gap, not an income gap. Black vs. white incomes are not that different - nothing like a 20 to 1 gap, instead maybe 30%. The difference is that black people are not in the habit of saving any money. Brother gets a Christmas bonus, next week he has a new set of rims. So the average black family has a net worth of approximately zero.
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  79. Broski says:
    @Forbes
    Yeah, that's the ticket--the French Revolution worked out really well.

    I suppose Tennessee imagines overturning the Monarchy, the Ancien Regime, and feudalism.

    What’s evident from Tennessee’s statements, and what proves that he’s a dunce as Steve alleges, is that he truly still believes–in 2017–that race is a biological construct. I think much of the non-stupid mainstream left is starting to have serious doubts.

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  80. Broski says:
    @Desiderius
    Yeah, that's what we were all taught growing up, but the results have been akin to removing predators from a natural environment - other populations have gone way out of control threatening the stability of the whole system.

    I disagree. The argument against rac[e real]ism that has mass cultural currency is that racism is a delusion of the rabidly deranged (think gentile JPods). Use of the n-word, in virtually any circumstance, bolsters that argument.

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    Undoubtedly true.

    But as someone who rides the NYC subways every day, the N-word is probably heard more often than any other.
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  81. Broski says:
    @mobi
    OT:

    According to The Economist 'Intelligence Unit', Chicago is actually one of 3 safest US cities - 19th in the entire world.

    Because, you see, Mayor Rahm Emmanuel's 'initiative in cybersecurity training through local colleges and the Department of Defense' trumps actual murder.

    Take that, Trumpkins!

    http://safecities.economist.com/safe-cities-index-2017-infographic

    The Economist, by which you mean the official organ of the Rothschild family? (Shhh they don’t exist.)

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    The Economist, by which you mean the official organ of the Rothschild family? (Shhh they don’t exist.)

    The sum of Rothschild enterprises (which are in two sets run by competing crews of collateral relatives) have assets about that of the Bank of Hawaii.
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  82. Broski says:
    @Desiderius
    Bad faith only understands bad faith.

    That establishes the communication channel - lacking that all they perceive is weakness begging to be rolled.

    “[L]lacking that all they perceive is weakness begging to be rolled.”

    You don’t have to use slurs to avoid being perceived as weak. For those of you familiar with Game of Thrones, who is the most charismatic leader? The one with the most gravitas?

    Tywin Lannister, of course. That character is a depiction of tremendous power and competence. He never loses his temper. Can you imagine Dance’s Lannister saying the word ni@@3r in anger? No.

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  83. Broski says:
    @Desiderius
    Bad faith only understands bad faith.

    That establishes the communication channel - lacking that all they perceive is weakness begging to be rolled.

    In further response, what does work? Pepe the Frog works–ridicule. Even the Happy Merchant works, appropriately applied, because it evidences universal truths that are not widely acknowledged in polite company. Calling our hereditary, formerly enslaved underclass slurs is not helpful.

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    In further response, what does work? Pepe the Frog works–ridicule.
     
    Pepe The Frog is interesting though, because there's no baggage associated with him. Yes, you can Hillary Clinton to shriek "He's racist!".

    However, all but the deepest kool-aid drinkers or Twitter users (but I repeat myself) are going to scratch their heads at the association.

    Everyone knows the "n" word is bad. It's a variation of negro, slang, and in use for hundreds of years now. It's like wandering around in Nazi uniforms or completely naked. You're not going to friends because we all know you're basically going for the shock value.

    But Pepe? He's a cartoon character with no widely known backstory. It doesn't help that most people with the Pepe avatars seem to be prankster/fun loving people with a genuine sense of humor. The real joy of Pepe is he makes SJW types look like the brittle, humorless maroons that they are.
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  84. Broski says:
    @Millennial
    For Coates, French Revolution might just be a code-phrase for Haitian Revolution.

    The Haitian Revolution was justice, if ever there was such a thing. America ca. 2017 is not St. Domingue.

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  85. Broski says:
    @anonymous
    And why don't we just end all these problems by segregating whites from others?

    Because Jews don’t want that.

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  86. Broski says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Steve you told us its a class thing and the reason the Left wants to take our guns is protect Raven and Brylynne from black gangbangers shooting everything, so what gives?

    Cause it sure sounds like Coates wants a race war against unarmed kulaks.

    The Left is not a monolith. Among other coalition members are lefty middle class white parents of Raven and Brylynne; leaders of the organized, ethnocentric Jewish community (Chuck Schumer, Bloomberg, Feinstein, Kagan/RBG, countless others); and blacks. Each can have a different attitude toward guns, abortion, and everything else.

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  87. dwb says:
    @Forbes

    the complete abolition of race as a construct
     
    Pray tell, what would dear ol' Tennessee write about? What would he do? He obsesses about race. His public intellectualness would disappear if his subject matter were no longer.

    Tennessee fits my definition of an expert: Someone who knows more and more about less and less until he knows everything about nothing.

    I love the lyrical definition of expert.

    I’ve often said that an expert is someone who knows everything but understands nothing.

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    That definition works too. Similar to: The materialist (money grubber, miser, et al.) who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
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  88. Kylie says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    ...maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct...

    Would that require mass killing or would universal lobotomies suffice?

    “‘…maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct…,

    Would that require mass killing or would universal lobotomies suffice?”

    Ball peen hammers for everyone who passes the Brown Paper Bag Test!

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  89. L Woods says:
    @Bill
    Life has gotten a lot better for the black elite in South Africa.

    And that, as ever, is what really counts.

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  90. Tiny Duck says:

    I agree with Mr. Coates

    white men have proven time and time again that brutality and violence is the only language they understand

    South Africa has showed us how deal with racists and their parasitic offspring. They are about to quit trying to play nice

    Antifa is showing that punching Nazis is the only way to eradicate white supremacy

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  91. “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct,”

    There is no process that will lead to equality because humans are not equal, and there is no process that will lead to the abolition of race as a construct because race is real. Coates is asking for a process to eradicate human nature, but you can’t eradicate human nature no matter how much force and propaganda you use.

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    Well, eradicating humans will solve the quandary...
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  92. Someone needs to send the genius links to those recent Unz and VDARE articles about bad black marksmanship!

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  93. Isn’t there a simpler solution for the “white man” problem? — Separation.

    If Ta-Nehisi and Ezra really believe all this crap about oppression … let’s just separate and be done with it. They’ll have their race free and equal world without all the terror folks like me create. It’s trivial.

    Yet, somehow you never ever see the Ezra Kleins and Ta-Nehisis Coates, the blacks (excepting the true black nationalist muslims) and especially the Jews actually saying hey we’re better without you guys, let’s split off/divorce.

    No what these “liberal” establishment blacks and the Jews want is that white gentiles stick around to produce stuff, but not be allowed to be in charge of their nations, their lives, their productive endeavors. Essentially they want white serfdom.

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    If blacks were able to form their own ethnostate in North America, does anyone think the problem of "inequality" would be magically solved?

    Of course, not. A cognitive elite would soon rise to the top, and a large underclass would remain at the bottom. And everyone there would likely be less well off, without a massive white taxpayer base to shoulder much of the burden of funding and running society.

    Ethiopia was never formally colonized by the Western powers, and yet it is hardly an egalitarian paradise today. Quite the opposite, in fact. If we can't blame whitey for this, it must obviously have much more to do with basic human nature.

    Why does anyone take Ta-Nehisi Coates seriously? He doesn't seem to understand the first thing about human beings. If he really is black America's greatest living intellectual today, that's an insult to all the far more intelligent black Americans I've known myself.
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  94. Art Deco says:
    @AndrewR
    I've said it before and I'll say it again: Coates' perpetual resentment is not really towards People Who Believe They Are White in a society he perceives as White Supremacist, nor is it even towards the anti-intellectual Black Body majority who ceaselessly tormented him for being nerdy and bookish as a child.

    Nay: the gargantuan chip on his shoulder primarily stems from the fact that he has an absolutely hideous (albeit highly symmetrical) face. Being more physically repulsive than >98% of the population must have a very scarring effect on the psyche. But writing about how awful white people are is more profitable than writing about how much it sucks to look like a big mouth bass.

    I’ll wager that’s as good an explanation of Coates as any other. I look at pix of him, and I’m not seeing what you’re seeing. They’re quite inconsistent one to the other, much more so than that of an ordinary person. I think for women into black men, he does all right from some perspectives.

    A critic of Coates who has read his memoir says he gets into his young adult years before you encounter an anecdote of a white person actually doing him dirt, and even that story is about something fairly inconsequential (rude woman on an elevator, IIRC). The problems blacks have faced the last 40-odd years have very little to do with things whites do to them (albeit something to do with things the majority has refrained from doing). Coates does not recognize what’s missing, in part because he lacks a certain academic background and in part because acknowledging what actually is missing would be emotionally upsetting.

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  95. @Cynical
    The funny part is Ta-Nehisi Coates is right....

    Most of your conservaboomers assume that white American conservatives will win Civil War 2...

    "Look at who has all the guns... it will be the shortest Civil War evah!"

    "All conservatives have guns, just wait until Uncle Bob starts shooting back with his 30-30! Those liberals will be in real trouble then!"

    No, sorry, it won't turn out like the "Turner Diaries"...

    1. More than 100 years of (((programming))) has made your average Amerikwan as easy to manipulate as a bowl of spaghetti...

    2. Look at what happened after Oklahoma City... 9-11... Charlottesville... all you need is for one "white terrorist" act to occur and your average Kwan will be back to waving his flag like a good little goy...

    3. I imagine you will see a lot of ads like this on Craigslist: "Conservative AR-15 for sale, never fired but only dropped once."

    4. Seriously, you think your average fat, wheezing boomer conservatard is going to get his overweight ass his couch to fight a war? You really believe that? We can't even get these lardmasses to turn off their Talmudvision and fooseball. Good luck once hot lead is flying!

    5. "But don't we have Trump, the police and U.S. military on our side?" Do you really? What happens when your beloved GOP impeaches Trump? And take a good look at your average city police force...filled with blacks, Mexican, etc. The U.S. Army. is filled with Mexican narco gang members. And just wait until the (((Deep State)))) makes the accusation that "white nationalists" are on the same side as the Iranians and Russian or Moooslims. Your average Mexican GI will have no problem mowing you down like an average Palestinian.

    In short, most Amerikwans will be on the side of Ta-Nehisi Coates and (((our leaders))) in the event our cultural cold war here in the U.S. goes hot.

    “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct, and being horrified by the process, maybe even attacking the process. I think these things don’t tend to happen peacefully.” - cries out the Kwan as walks himself voluntarily into his local FEMA camp.

    The bugman whistles loudly past the graveyard.

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  96. @L Woods
    Does the term "boots and suits" mean nothing to you? The iSteve corner of the dissident right requires a certain degree of gentility to properly fill its role in the wider division of labor as an attractor to disaffected professionals and intellectuals. Boorishly offensive imagery like the above is wholly counterproductive here.

    These are also the same people who think the highest level of allowable resitance is posting pithy comments on niche blogs until they’re tossed in a gulag.

    HTFU.

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    These are also the same people who think the highest level of allowable resitance is posting pithy comments on niche blogs until they’re tossed in a gulag.
     
    There are many ways to resist the gulag, and one of them is to recognize when you're doing the work of the would-be gulagists for them, and don't.

    Pithy, isn't it?

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  97. Steve, free my comment! It can’t be more offensive than the first one.

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  98. @nebulafox
    If Coates knew history a little better, he'd know what Napoleon eventually did to L'Ouverture.

    Matter of fact, here's a historical irony: it was a pragmatic conservative President that backed the Haitian Revolution (partially because Adams profoundly despised slavery, partially because Adams saw a way of hoisting revolutionary France by its own petard. There's never a better way of screwing with revolutionary states than forcing them to live up to their own ideals.), it was a liberal idealist President that backed the French in suppressing it in what would prove to be an extremely nasty guerrilla war that Napoleon would look back upon on St. Helena with regret. That kind of forms a nice historical predecessor insofar as the real dynamics between white liberals and black people.

    Autodidact Genius Coates’ problem is that he has a little bit of self-selected knowledge layered on a lot of wilful ignorance. It’s what makes him so confident… and so dangerous.

    Dunning Krueger given a magazine column and a pulpit.

    Our generation’s Father Coughlin amplified by a new medium preaching hate to the masses.

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  99. Art Deco says:
    @Broski
    I saw Coates on the PBS News Hour last night. Previously it had seemed unkind of Steve to call him none too bright, but after seeing the interview I must agree.

    The problem was identified by Thomas Sowell a generation ago. The Anointed confound general intelligence with expertise, then confound articulateness with general intelligence. Journalism is shot through with articulate people, who are articulate, full stop.

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    What is better, general intelligence or expertise?
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  100. Vinteuil says:
    @White American

    Ezra Klein and Ta Nehisi Coates
     
    https://archive.is/AfNVN/ea558c69a90f1710f00e7af36ed2d198305ad08b.jpg

    This sort of thing is now acceptable, here?

    Say it ain’t so.

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    https://twitter.com/JBurtonXP/status/918599466697060352
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  101. Art Deco says:
    @Broski
    The Economist, by which you mean the official organ of the Rothschild family? (Shhh they don't exist.)

    The Economist, by which you mean the official organ of the Rothschild family? (Shhh they don’t exist.)

    The sum of Rothschild enterprises (which are in two sets run by competing crews of collateral relatives) have assets about that of the Bank of Hawaii.

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    Another thread already on the verge of being lost to JIDF autism triggered by noticing.
    , @Broski
    In reality, of course, you have absolutely no idea what their assets are because the controlling entities are privately held.
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  102. @Art Deco
    The problem was identified by Thomas Sowell a generation ago. The Anointed confound general intelligence with expertise, then confound articulateness with general intelligence. Journalism is shot through with articulate people, who are articulate, full stop.

    What is better, general intelligence or expertise?

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  103. @27 year old
    This is a great post, but it doesn't belong on Steve's site. Don't fuck up our hard won lack of Komment Kontrol with this stuff.

    ISteve is a contributor to Ron Unz’s site. Steve approves comments regardless..

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  104. @Yada yada
    This confirms my belief that blacks still believe in voodoo. The wealth will magically appear without White Europeans to create it.

    Yada, Of course, wealth springs up from our “magic dirt.”

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  105. Art Deco says:

    The complaints about the ‘wealth gap’ indicate that neither Klein nor Coates have any idea why some people are wealthy and most are not and what the source of a modest pool of assets in a household really is.

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    Bingo. Both Ezra Klein and Tennessee Coates have developed public profiles/personas in the internet era of social media--basically self-promotion media. And no doubt they have garnered incomes vastly higher than would've been the case, say in the '80s, when they deservedly would've been nobodies.

    For them, advertising supported media has been equivalent to a winning lottery ticket--but they don't know it. Work that entails sweat and dirt and grind is outside their experience as keyboard warriors.

    They address wealth as if it's something handed out--and unfairly so--rather than the result of productive effort, impulse control/deferred gratification, and the prioritizing of savings and investment over consumption. If someone else were in charge (them), there'd be better allocation--like handing out candy of Halloween--without ever understanding where the candy came from..
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  106. L Woods says:
    @Charles Pewitt
    Disregard the desires of your enemies. The Normans at the bottom of Senlac Hill in 1066 didn't give a damn about what the Saxons wanted. The Normans knew what they wanted: complete and total control of England, and by extension, the whole island.

    That is where Richard Spencer excels. Spencer wants to dislodge the WASP / Jew ruling class and form a new ruling class with the ALT-RIGHT in charge. Assume the bearing of the ruling class, assert your ancestral right to power, and win the day.

    A ruling class comprised of Twitter trolls, wannabe YouTube celebrities and Ivy League rejects. There’s a vision to get behind

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    A ruling class comprised of Twitter trolls, wannabe YouTube celebrities and Ivy League rejects. There’s a vision to get behind

     

    Even the losers get lucky sometimes.

    https://youtu.be/SS2lNT3791Y
    , @27 year old

    A ruling class comprised of Twitter trolls, wannabe YouTube celebrities and Ivy League rejects. There’s a vision to get behind
     
    Yeah, you're right, it should be /pol/
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  107. @Charles Pewitt
    Disregard the desires of your enemies. The Normans at the bottom of Senlac Hill in 1066 didn't give a damn about what the Saxons wanted. The Normans knew what they wanted: complete and total control of England, and by extension, the whole island.

    That is where Richard Spencer excels. Spencer wants to dislodge the WASP / Jew ruling class and form a new ruling class with the ALT-RIGHT in charge. Assume the bearing of the ruling class, assert your ancestral right to power, and win the day.

    Sorry but weev has Spencer’s number as a dilletante who only cares about Spencer.

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    Difficult to tell who is the bigger dork Weev or Spence.
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  108. @passive-aggressivist
    i won't pretend to know anything about tennessee coates outside of what i've read on isteve, but good lord is that quote from him incoherent. and i assume it has been edited for some clarity. anybody regularly listening to this guy speak must be mutilating his tongue over such grating syntax.

    Tennessee Coates and Vox are made for each other – they both think they are intellectuals and have important things to say. Oh, and did I mention their moral superiority?

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  109. @Charles Pewitt
    Disregard the desires of your enemies. The Normans at the bottom of Senlac Hill in 1066 didn't give a damn about what the Saxons wanted. The Normans knew what they wanted: complete and total control of England, and by extension, the whole island.

    That is where Richard Spencer excels. Spencer wants to dislodge the WASP / Jew ruling class and form a new ruling class with the ALT-RIGHT in charge. Assume the bearing of the ruling class, assert your ancestral right to power, and win the day.

    That is where Richard Spencer excels. Spencer wants to dislodge the WASP / Jew ruling class and form a new ruling class with the ALT-RIGHT in charge. Assume the bearing of the ruling class, assert your ancestral right to power, and win the day.

    No one knows what Spencer wants and Spencer doesn’t either.

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  110. mobi says:
    @Jack Hanson
    These are also the same people who think the highest level of allowable resitance is posting pithy comments on niche blogs until they're tossed in a gulag.

    HTFU.

    These are also the same people who think the highest level of allowable resitance is posting pithy comments on niche blogs until they’re tossed in a gulag.

    There are many ways to resist the gulag, and one of them is to recognize when you’re doing the work of the would-be gulagists for them, and don’t.

    Pithy, isn’t it?

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  111. @Broski
    The Left is not a monolith. Among other coalition members are lefty middle class white parents of Raven and Brylynne; leaders of the organized, ethnocentric Jewish community (Chuck Schumer, Bloomberg, Feinstein, Kagan/RBG, countless others); and blacks. Each can have a different attitude toward guns, abortion, and everything else.

    Whatever lies you gotta tell yourself so you can wrap yourself in your boomercuck security blankey, soymale.

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    Yeah... not sure what this even means. Methinks it means nothing.
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  112. @Art Deco
    The Economist, by which you mean the official organ of the Rothschild family? (Shhh they don’t exist.)

    The sum of Rothschild enterprises (which are in two sets run by competing crews of collateral relatives) have assets about that of the Bank of Hawaii.

    Another thread already on the verge of being lost to JIDF autism triggered by noticing.

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  113. Thea says:
    @Bleuteaux
    Yes. They want to kill the very people who produce so much abundance that it allows tens, arguably hundreds, of millions of them to never have a job and live a life of leisure. Good luck to them after they get their wish.

    Yes and The entire continent of Africa exists on Western welfare basically. They will get what they asked for.

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  114. @syonredux

    If Coates knew history a little better, he’d know what Napoleon eventually did to L’Ouverture.
     
    I think that Coates is probably keener on Jean-Jacques Dessalines.......

    The 1804 Haiti massacre was carried out against the remaining white population of native French people and French Creoles (or Franco-Haitians) in Haiti by Haitian soldiers under orders from Jean-Jacques Dessalines, who had decreed that all suspected of conspiring in the acts of the expelled army should be put to death.[1] Throughout the nineteenth century, these events were well known in the United States, where they were called "the horrors of St. Domingo" and they polarized Southern public opinion on the question of the abolition of slavery.[2][3]
    The massacre, which took place throughout Haiti, occurred from early February 1804 until 22 April 1804 and resulted in the deaths of 3,000 to 5,000 men, women, and children.[4]
    Squads of soldiers moved from house to house, torturing and killing entire families.[5] Even whites who had been friendly and sympathetic to the black population were imprisoned and later killed.[6] A second wave of massacres targeted white women and children.[6]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_massacre

    Jean-Jacques Dessalines (French pronunciation: ​[ʒɑ̃ ʒak dɛs.salin]; 20 September 1758 – 17 October 1806) was a leader of the Haitian Revolution and the first ruler of an independent Haiti under the 1805 constitution. Initially regarded as governor-general, Dessalines named later Emperor Jacques I of Haiti (1804–1806) by the Generals of the Haitian Revolution Army.[1]He is regarded as a founding father of Haiti.[2]
    Dessalines served as an officer in the French army, when the colony was fending off Spanish and British incursions. Later he rose to become a commander in the revolt against France. As Toussaint Louverture's principal lieutenant, he led many successful engagements, including the Battle of Crête-à-Pierrot.
    After the betrayal and capture of Toussaint Louverture in 1802, Dessalines became the leader of the revolution. He defeated a French army at the Battle of Vertières in 1803. Declaring Haiti an independent nation in 1804, Dessalines was chosen by a council of generals to assume the office of governor-general. He ordered the 1804 Haiti massacre of the white Haitian minority, resulting in the deaths of between 3,000 and 5,000 people, between February and April 1804.[3] In September 1804, he was proclaimed emperor by the Generals of the Haitian Revolution Army and ruled in that capacity until being assassinated in 1806.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Jacques_Dessalines

    Syon, Thank you for the lesson in Haitian history. I truly learn something each day at iSteve’s.

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  115. @Charles Pewitt
    I had to read CLR James's Black Jacobins about the Haitian turmoil. Burke said it best about Haiti, to roughly quote: The hostile sword is merciful, the island itself is the dreaded enemy.

    https://twitter.com/argumento_/status/899529629026852864

    Charles, I am missing the point about the “dreaded island.” The Dominican Republic portion of the shared island seems to do quite nicely.

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    Edmund Burke was talking about the imperial contestation for the whole island of Hispaniola. The British Empire, French Empire and Spanish Empire were fighting over possession of the island of Hispaniola. Edmund Burke was arguing about the futility of wasting British blood and treasure on the island. Burke wanted the British Empire to declare victory and leave -- to steal a formulation some wag said about Vietnam.
    , @dcite
    The Dominican Republic encouraged European, including Jewish, immigration during the reign of Trujillo, 1930s to early 60s. Also allowed Lebanaese in. Although he was part Haitian himself, Trujillo actively kept Haitians from coming over the border, even going so far as to murder them if they tried. Dominicans are a mixture of black, white, and native, but Trujillo was of the conviction that the country would sink if the balance tipped towards more black. I don't see much evidence anywhere in the world that he was wrong.
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  116. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    If Genius T is Madame DeFarge/Blanche Yurka, then who’s Sidney Carton/Ronald Coleman? Or IS there anyone who fits the bill? “It is a far, far better thing that I do…” etc.

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    Sydney Carton's sacrifice was parochial. I want to know where the Thermidorian reaction will come from. Who is our Fouche, and more importantly, our Napoleon?
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  117. @L Woods
    A ruling class comprised of Twitter trolls, wannabe YouTube celebrities and Ivy League rejects. There's a vision to get behind

    A ruling class comprised of Twitter trolls, wannabe YouTube celebrities and Ivy League rejects. There’s a vision to get behind

    Even the losers get lucky sometimes.

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  118. @Charles Pewitt

    White American…you’re not helping.

     

    Norman foot soldier to Norman horseman at Senlac Hill in 1066: you're not helping.

    Norman horseman to Norman footman: Silence, you brutish knave, and be prepared to mop up the Saxons after we draw them out of their shield wall by repeated cavalry charges and feigned retreats.

    Crude cartoons and honest country songs are highly effective, that is why the Jews who control the media only show boring cartoons and only promote insipidly banal country songs.

    Your ongoing fetish for the Normans is interesting, given that:

    a. The first documented Jews to come to England came with the Norman invaders (William wanted to use them as tax collectors)

    b. The Norman army was a multicultural army (some two-thirds Bretons, Flemings, and misc others) attacking Saxons defending hearth and home

    c. Following the Conquest, Jews were granted special privileges and protection by the Norman/French monarchy, until the reign of Edward I

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  119. @Vinteuil
    This sort of thing is now acceptable, here?

    Say it ain't so.

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    While a true white nationalist always returns fire, into his own foot!
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  120. @syonredux
    For TNC, it's still pre-1965, and America is a Black and White country:

    Last week, I interviewed Coates for my podcast. I asked him to describe the world in which justice had been done, in which equality had been achieved, in which hope was merited. "We have a 20-to-1 wealth gap," Coates replied. "Every nickel of wealth the average black family has, the average white family has a dollar. What is the world in which that wealth gap is closed? What happens? What makes that possible? What does that look like? What is the process?"
     
    I wonder if TNC ever contemplates the Black-Asian wealth gap......

    syon, the wealth gap would be far worse if whites stopped giving part of their “wealth” to the black community. The city of Buffalo’s school district is majority minority, mostly blacks., but the school district’s billion dollar budget receives less than 8% from the City of Buffalo. If Buffalo’s school kids had to count on their black neighbors for an education and a free lunch, they would be waiting a long, long time.

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  121. i love reading sailer because his blog always freezes my laptop and i have to unplug it.

    what a piece of shit.

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    i love reading sailer because his blog always freezes my laptop and i have to unplug it.

    what a piece of shit.
     
    Ditch the Mexican laptop!
    , @PaddyPearse
    What, the laptop?
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  122. Kylie says:
    @AndrewR
    Wtf are you talking about? None of my comments are automatically published.

    Mine are. Or near enough as makes no never mind.

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  123. @Jeff77450
    I suspect that you're right. Why blatant haters like Coates can't learn from Rhodesia/Zimbabwe's experience with ousting the evil, demonic white man is beyond me. If Coates and his ilk ever get what they want it's going to be a classic case of "Be careful what you wish for---because you just might get it."

    It will be interesting to see if Coates becomes more and more radicalized, eventually to the point of openly and explicitly advocating for violence.

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  124. Veracitor says:

    The only meaningful “wealth gap” in America is between the 0.1% and the 99.9% of the population. Everyone in the 99.9% is quite close together on the wealth scale. In fact, the wealth difference between the poorest and richest among the 99.9% is less than 1/10 of the difference between the richest of the 99.9% and the typical member of the 0.1%.

    When Ezra Klein equates the “wealth gap” to “white supremacy” he is just spewing propaganda for the 0.1%, the ruling class, who don’t want you to notice their astonishing, exponential supremacy in wealth and therefore power.

    Virtually all the whites in America live on the bottom side of the “wealth gap” with the non-whites. What kind of “white supremacy” leaves virtually all of the “whites” out of the “supremacy?”

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    • Replies: @nebulafox
    The Vox writers are more or less the kiddie shock troops for neoliberalism. Just look at the brouhaha from a couple years back when Sanders called open borders a "Koch brothers proposal", or their treatment of politics within the Democratic Party in general.
    , @Forbes
    Media, legacy, ankle-biting, even kiddie-young adult sites like Vox have to repeat The Narrative, and keep the Big Lie going.

    Twain's aphorism about not reading newspapers remains true--that reading newspapers kept you misinformed.
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  125. @L Woods
    A ruling class comprised of Twitter trolls, wannabe YouTube celebrities and Ivy League rejects. There's a vision to get behind

    A ruling class comprised of Twitter trolls, wannabe YouTube celebrities and Ivy League rejects. There’s a vision to get behind

    Yeah, you’re right, it should be /pol/

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  126. @AndrewR
    Wtf are you talking about? None of my comments are automatically published.

    Make better quality comments or send Steve money.

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    Make better quality comments or send Steve money.
     
    There has to be more to it than that.
    , @AndrewR
    Anyone can talk trash behind a screen.
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  127. @nebulafox
    If Coates knew history a little better, he'd know what Napoleon eventually did to L'Ouverture.

    Matter of fact, here's a historical irony: it was a pragmatic conservative President that backed the Haitian Revolution (partially because Adams profoundly despised slavery, partially because Adams saw a way of hoisting revolutionary France by its own petard. There's never a better way of screwing with revolutionary states than forcing them to live up to their own ideals.), it was a liberal idealist President that backed the French in suppressing it in what would prove to be an extremely nasty guerrilla war that Napoleon would look back upon on St. Helena with regret. That kind of forms a nice historical predecessor insofar as the real dynamics between white liberals and black people.

    Another irony is that, supposedly, the Haitians were first exposed to Revolutionary ideals when a regiment of them in the service of Bourbon France (as sepoys, essentially) participated in the 1779 Franco-American siege of Savannah.

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  128. mobi says:
    @Charles Pewitt
    https://twitter.com/JBurtonXP/status/918599466697060352

    While a true white nationalist always returns fire, into his own foot!

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  129. mobi says:
    @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    i love reading sailer because his blog always freezes my laptop and i have to unplug it.

    what a piece of shit.

    i love reading sailer because his blog always freezes my laptop and i have to unplug it.

    what a piece of shit.

    Ditch the Mexican laptop!

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  130. nebulafox says:

    OT:

    http://ijr.com/2017/09/981932-karl-rove-blasts-trump-nfl-kneeling-comments-loser-minds-american-people/

    Wrong again, Turd Blossom. Just like you were on everything else for the past 17 years. And I’m saying this as someone completely indifferent to the NFL fracas.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/12/nfls-anthem-protests-may-be-starting-to-hit-foxs-bottom-line.html

    You know, I’ve never been someone who puts much stock in looks. Our best President was as homely as it got. But has anyone else here been viscerally… repelled by Karl Rove’s appearance? The dude might as well have been created in a secret DNC lab as the epitome of the pasty, creepy backroom GOP ward heeler, by virtue of both looks and personality. When you look at the fact that he’s still treated by FOX as the reincarnation of the Pythia Oracle, in spite of almost killing the party, you understand how the GOP can still manage to be so incompetent even after winning control of nearly everything.

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    Karl Rove is a donor-controlled, baby boomer slob. Karl Rove is given corporate media coverage on Fox News and in the Wall Street Journal by Rupert Murdoch because he has donor-approved opinions on just about everything.

    Karl Rove is particularly bad on immigration. Shelly Adelson and the GOP Cheap Labor Faction want open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders, and Karl Rove says that is what the GOP should push for.

    Rove is an ugly baby boomer slob who looks like a human tub of lard.
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  131. Thea says:
    @Cornbeef
    This blog is one of the few that maintains a sheen of respectability. It's a beach head and point of access for conversion. I feel comfortable sharing these thinks because pretty much nothing on here would get me fired. I feel comfortable sending these to my boomer Dad.

    One of the most important components of convincing ideological fence sitters to come our way is "Don't scare the normies."

    /end concern troll

    Agreed
    The articles here are a precious pearl of quality without animus. It is a very good first step to wake people up. Plenty of other websites offer material like that.

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    Everybody has me curious now about what was awful enough to deny us the privilege to see.

    It's important to see what's in people's hearts, the good, the ugly and the truth.

    Was it at least tastelessly humorous in a South Park way?
    No cow too sacred for making juicy (I'm assuming unkosher) cheeseburgers?
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  132. Clyde says:
    @Cornbeef
    This blog is one of the few that maintains a sheen of respectability. It's a beach head and point of access for conversion. I feel comfortable sharing these thinks because pretty much nothing on here would get me fired. I feel comfortable sending these to my boomer Dad.

    One of the most important components of convincing ideological fence sitters to come our way is "Don't scare the normies."

    /end concern troll

    Well stated. People posting at iSteve must learn to phrase their concerns in a normal enough manner. 99% of posters already do.

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  133. nebulafox says:
    @Veracitor
    The only meaningful "wealth gap" in America is between the 0.1% and the 99.9% of the population. Everyone in the 99.9% is quite close together on the wealth scale. In fact, the wealth difference between the poorest and richest among the 99.9% is less than 1/10 of the difference between the richest of the 99.9% and the typical member of the 0.1%.

    When Ezra Klein equates the "wealth gap" to "white supremacy" he is just spewing propaganda for the 0.1%, the ruling class, who don't want you to notice their astonishing, exponential supremacy in wealth and therefore power.

    Virtually all the whites in America live on the bottom side of the "wealth gap" with the non-whites. What kind of "white supremacy" leaves virtually all of the "whites" out of the "supremacy?"

    The Vox writers are more or less the kiddie shock troops for neoliberalism. Just look at the brouhaha from a couple years back when Sanders called open borders a “Koch brothers proposal”, or their treatment of politics within the Democratic Party in general.

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  134. JohnnyD says:

    Ironically, whites have probably treated Coates more decently than his fellow blacks…

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    "Ironically, whites have probably treated Coates more decently than his fellow blacks…"

    Right. Far better to be pushed off the escalator than thrown under the bus.
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  135. Thea says:
    @Captain Willard
    Well, Coates is just Malcolm X without the religion or even the pretense of self-reliance.

    Upon reflection, it makes sense in this Age of instant gratification. One has to respect Coates' marketing skill. Self-reliance and discipline are exhausting, so they're hard products to sell to the aggrieved masses.

    Blaming others is a time-tested strategy. In a twist of delicious irony, he's unwittingly starting to imitate Mein Kampf.

    It’s as if Klein is toying with us “haha Hey whitey I can send this half wit to gather his goon squad to destroy all you hold dear!”

    I almost feel sorry for Coates. Self reliance and moral restraint aren’t remotely possible for him to achieve.

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  136. MBlanc46 says:

    And we all know how equal things are in France.

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  137. mobi says:
    @Jake
    Reign of terror is what all Liberals want deep down. It takes most of them years to figure that out, and even longer to be able to admit it even to other Liberals. But they want to use fire and sword to destroy everything they deem to be backward, because then they will have created a much better world.

    But they want to use fire and sword to destroy everything they deem to be backward, because then they will have created a much better world.

    It usually has more to do with being their only credible shot at the top – by offing their betters, outright.

    Bolsheviks, Red Guards, Khmer Rouge, etc, etc – Fascism of the Inferior, basically.

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  138. Alfa158 says:
    @Broski
    I saw Coates on the PBS News Hour last night. Previously it had seemed unkind of Steve to call him none too bright, but after seeing the interview I must agree.

    You should check out this performance:

    His handler from the Atlantic, Jeff Goldberg, was also there to amplify and agree and help him out whenever he stumbled. What was really creepy was the way Jeff kept fawning over Tennessee , calling him repeatedly my very, very good friend. Eventually even Tennessee starts looking visibly uncomfortable like he was afraid that Jeff might invite him home for a little cuckold voyeur action.

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  139. @Buffalo Joe
    Charles, I am missing the point about the "dreaded island." The Dominican Republic portion of the shared island seems to do quite nicely.

    Edmund Burke was talking about the imperial contestation for the whole island of Hispaniola. The British Empire, French Empire and Spanish Empire were fighting over possession of the island of Hispaniola. Edmund Burke was arguing about the futility of wasting British blood and treasure on the island. Burke wanted the British Empire to declare victory and leave — to steal a formulation some wag said about Vietnam.

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    Charles, thank you
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  140. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Charles Pewitt
    Ta-Nehisi Coates is allowed to go on and on with his anti-White nonsense because the corporate media is mostly owned and controlled by Jews. One benefit that the rising ALT-RIGHT will bring is that they will tell Coates to his face to go to hell. The Jew-controlled corporate media must be dismantled immediately. Some guy who has some clout is in the news talking about confiscating the broadcast license of Comcast and NBC News. That guy seems like he is onto something good.

    Ta-Nehisi Coates is a middling IQ Black who is used by the corporate media to demoralize and attack White Core Americans. The reason why the ALT-RIGHT is gaining strength and power is that White Core America wants someone in politics to tell the corporate media Jews and the Ta-Nehisi-type Blacks to go to hell.

    Get on the job of destroying the Jew/wasp world domination already.
    Hint : it won’t be accomplished by posting comments online 24/7.
    Do let us know when you have toppled them though, you happy normal person you.

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    The internet is a lousy medium for sarcasm (at least I hope this was sarcasm). In addition it is read by various deranged persons. So your "get on with it" jest might be taken seriously by some nut job and I suggest not making any more jokes in that vein.
    , @Bill

    Hint : it won’t be accomplished by posting comments online 24/7.
     
    Completely wrong. Asch Conformity Experiment.
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  141. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Big Bill
    So what is TNC doing these days?

    I remember he moved to Paris to do the American-ex-pat-intellectual voice-crying-in-the-wilderness thing and write some comic books.

    Has he given up on that and moved back here? Didn't the French welcome him with open arms?

    His comic books failed. Not only was he a non-comic book writer, and thus clunky at it, he made them all preachy every third page. Apparently he figured the didactic nonsense that got him dozens of readers and effuse praise in The Atlantic would impress people looking for fun adventure stories.

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  142. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Jack Hanson
    Sorry but weev has Spencer's number as a dilletante who only cares about Spencer.

    Difficult to tell who is the bigger dork Weev or Spence.

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    Weev went to the federal pen for his views and fled the country in order to keep working towards them.

    Spencer mysteriously has kept his blue checkmark and not been unpersoned on the internet or had his family's legacy business touched.

    You are an anon calling someone a 'dork' on a niche blog who has actually suffered for their views. Perhaps some reflection is in order.
    , @Anon
    Difficult to tell who is the bigger dork Weev or Spence.

    You haven't got the guts to what Spencer has done. Sure, he's made mistakes but he gave up A LOT to do what he's doing. He gave up a career in mainstream politics. And he's not writing stuff like most people on net but getting out there in person and getting hit and attacked.

    He's got true grit. Those who don't have no right to be too hard on those who do.
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  143. @Bleuteaux
    Yes. They want to kill the very people who produce so much abundance that it allows tens, arguably hundreds, of millions of them to never have a job and live a life of leisure. Good luck to them after they get their wish.

    Yes. They want to kill the very people who produce so much abundance that it allows tens, arguably hundreds, of millions of them to never have a job and live a life of leisure. Good luck to them after they get their wish.

    “oh they’re gonna miss us when we’re gone” = losing with dignity

    They would on some level be happier starving, telling themselves about how they finally conquered the White oppressor.

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    The common folks in Zimbabwe and Venezuela (which BTW has a much bigger racial dimension that is shown in the popular press) are not exactly happy about starving but nobody really asked them (as opposed to manipulating them). You have to understand that the common folks everywhere rarely get a say in what happens except as pawns on the chess board. What we have now is a battle between various elites, some of which are browner than others. When the dust settles, one elite or another will be in charge and that elite might or might not be the same color (more or less) as the majority but whoever they are, the winning elite is going to get the lion's share of the goodies and the average poor schmuck in the street is going to get the table scraps. Maybe you can convince him that he is better off because the people stealing from him are now the same color as he is, but that doesn't fill your belly.
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  144. mobi says:
    @27 year old
    Make better quality comments or send Steve money.

    Make better quality comments or send Steve money.

    There has to be more to it than that.

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    Nope.
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  145. @nebulafox
    OT:

    http://ijr.com/2017/09/981932-karl-rove-blasts-trump-nfl-kneeling-comments-loser-minds-american-people/

    Wrong again, Turd Blossom. Just like you were on everything else for the past 17 years. And I'm saying this as someone completely indifferent to the NFL fracas.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/12/nfls-anthem-protests-may-be-starting-to-hit-foxs-bottom-line.html

    You know, I've never been someone who puts much stock in looks. Our best President was as homely as it got. But has anyone else here been viscerally... repelled by Karl Rove's appearance? The dude might as well have been created in a secret DNC lab as the epitome of the pasty, creepy backroom GOP ward heeler, by virtue of both looks and personality. When you look at the fact that he's still treated by FOX as the reincarnation of the Pythia Oracle, in spite of almost killing the party, you understand how the GOP can still manage to be so incompetent even after winning control of nearly everything.

    Karl Rove is a donor-controlled, baby boomer slob. Karl Rove is given corporate media coverage on Fox News and in the Wall Street Journal by Rupert Murdoch because he has donor-approved opinions on just about everything.

    Karl Rove is particularly bad on immigration. Shelly Adelson and the GOP Cheap Labor Faction want open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders, and Karl Rove says that is what the GOP should push for.

    Rove is an ugly baby boomer slob who looks like a human tub of lard.

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  146. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @ThreeCranes
    "maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct"

    To "hypostatize" is to "treat or represent (something abstract) as a concrete reality"

    Would this be an example of antihypostatizing?

    And just how does one go about abolishing a construct?

    I think he has found a fancy way of saying "kill white people" while getting well paid for doing so.

    Geez, and they accuse the Alt Right of dogwhistling.

    I don’t think he wants to kill white people, but I think he wants whiteness knocked off of the racial hierarchy. But the problem is there’s always a hierarchy, even where there are no whites.

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    Adding on to my above tangent: Nixon predicted in 1982 that by 2050, Asians would pretty much run the world.

    In a way, this would be making things worse for most blacks, because most Asians don’t feel guilt about slavery or Jim Crow or actually *believe* progressive theory (although they'll voice it if they deem it socially necessary, being the de facto religious ideology of our upper classes) like WASP liberals do, and are privately probably willing to contemplate measures to tackle crime or disorder that most well-to-do whites wouldn’t conceive of.

    , @SMK
    Yes, a consummate example of how to lie and distort reality with statistics: If one excluded all the millionaire and billionaires, overwhelming white and disproportionately Jewish, vastly so, and also the millions of black female-headed families (whose "wealth" is zero or close to zero apart from all their welfare benefits), what then would be the white/black "wealth gap"?

    And Coates is a millionaire who received a 625 thousand MacArthur "genius award." The wealth-gap between Coates and myself is a 1000-x to 1. He's a millionaire, like blacks with IQ's in the 70s and 80s and 90s who are paid millions and tens of millions of dollar a year for playing pro-basketball, football, and baseball, and obscenity-spewing, white-hating, gun-toting "rap-artists," while I live off $838.78 a month of SS/SSI in a low-cost apartment -albeit I'm far more erudite and intelligent. And, far more importantly, I'm honest and realistic. I live in the real world as opposed to a fantasy world.

    What explains this "wealth-gap"? The answer is simple: we live in a black-supremacist country, a society ruled by blacks and their white-Jewish sycophants, apologists, and enablers, a county in which a buffoon, irrational anti-white hatemonger, psychotic, and charlatan like Coates is gloried as a great thinker who receives a "genius award" while all those who criticize and tell the truth about blacks are vilified as "racists" and "white supremacists," even "Nazis" and "Fascists," and are censored, silences, ostracized, marginalized, or, in regard to myself and who knows how many others, impoverished.
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  147. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Barnard

    "We have a 20-to-1 wealth gap," Coates replied. "Every nickel of wealth the average black family has, the average white family has a dollar. What is the world in which that wealth gap is closed? What happens? What makes that possible? What does that look like? What is the process?"
     
    Well if the average black family has zero agency in their personal wealth management, you are going to have to destroy white wealth in order to close that gap. I would say it looks like Zimbabwe or South Africa. If that is the world Coates wants, why doesn't he just move to Harare now?

    average black family

    (laughs in 72% illegitimacy rate)

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  148. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Coates is just Malcolm X without the religion or even the pretense of self-reliance

    Agree. But, Malcolm X was a complicated man, and intelligent.

    Ta-Nehisi Coates is stupid.

    He’s so damn stupid it’s embarrasing.

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    The general intellectual quality of the Left has declined immensely over the past 50 years. Say what you will about old-line Marxists, they would have been horrified at the idea of classical Roman and European history being denounced as "racist" and unworthy of study on campuses.

    Though granted, the Right isn't much better here. Can you imagine the likes of Dubya or Trump having a conversation with advisors on an intellectual level like this?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nixon-and-moynihan-talk-iq-and-race/

    Intellectual decline has been a pretty society wide-thing in the US. (And let me be no hypocrite: I've got a long, long way to go to make up for lost time in learning, being a product of the 2000s American educational system and having wasted my youth. Maybe it's too late, but at least I can become less dumb.)

    , @whorefinder
    Malcolm X wasn't that intelligent. He was a common street hustler who took his hustler to another level because of black low-IQ and because he had some commie money flowing in to back him. His Autobiography is littered with a lot of examples of his less-than-stellar IQ---e.g. he named his daughter "Attila" because he thought Attila the Hun sacked Rome, when Attila never sacked Rome nor was he a girl.

    And, as even Alex Haley admitted (he was the stenographer for Malcolm's autobiography),that his shows of strength were hustles---e.g Malcolm palmed a bullet out of the gun when he pretended to play Russian Roulette in order to intimidate others.
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  149. Tim says:

    OT but here’s the next big thing:

    Army PFC Geminia Aimable gots yelled out by a white racist b*tch, and now we all gots to know about it. Problem is she had a cell phone, but no video, she didn’t call the police or file out a police report, the guy doesn’t look white, but black or Hispanic, and Geminia “writes poetry about LGBT and racism,” supports BLM and is politicized.

    It’s got everything you’d expect. I’m surprised she didn’t “find a noose” on her door knob.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article178682361.html

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  150. nebulafox says:
    @Anonymous
    Coates is just Malcolm X without the religion or even the pretense of self-reliance

    Agree. But, Malcolm X was a complicated man, and intelligent.

    Ta-Nehisi Coates is stupid.

    He's so damn stupid it's embarrasing.

    The general intellectual quality of the Left has declined immensely over the past 50 years. Say what you will about old-line Marxists, they would have been horrified at the idea of classical Roman and European history being denounced as “racist” and unworthy of study on campuses.

    Though granted, the Right isn’t much better here. Can you imagine the likes of Dubya or Trump having a conversation with advisors on an intellectual level like this?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nixon-and-moynihan-talk-iq-and-race/

    Intellectual decline has been a pretty society wide-thing in the US. (And let me be no hypocrite: I’ve got a long, long way to go to make up for lost time in learning, being a product of the 2000s American educational system and having wasted my youth. Maybe it’s too late, but at least I can become less dumb.)

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    I'm old enough to have been in college in the 60's so I have watched the intellectual decline of the Left. My theory is that it was caused by the increasing dissonance between their theories and reality. 50 years of implementing their program around most of the world has demonstrated the fallacies in their ideology, i.e. the collapse of Communism in China and it's replacement with a National Socialist oligarchy, the impoverished conditions of the remaining Communist nations, the failure of half a century of closing the racial gap to have any results, etc. etc.
    The problem is that their belief system has totally supplanted all others in education and culture plus they still find the abstract ideas attractive emotionally and lucrative personally. As a result they have had to self-lobotomize themselves in order to be able to continue to believe their dogma. As Dennis Prager has commented, some ideas are so stupid that you have to have gone to graduate school to believe them, i.e. they need the extra immersion in the conditioning to believe them. Even the few remaining bright Leftists who are capable of rigorous and logical thought in a profession such as the Law, have trained themselves to practice CrimeStop and turn off their faculties when it comes to sociology, economics, biology and politics in order to avoid thinking bad things.
    , @Forbes
    I think it's simpler than that, i.e. intellectual decline as society-wide. In a technical sense, yes, because very few people care about being, in the cultural sense, an intellectual.

    As a culture we've told every student, every child, every person they're just as smart and capable and talented and good looking as the next (PC writ large)--and anyone who disagrees is to be ostracized, and driven from polite society. The result is that people "don't know better," as my grandmother would say. They open their mouths and foolishness runs out--they "don't know better" to keep their mouth shut.

    In 1960, about 10% of high school graduates matriculated at 4-year colleges--some of those became intellectuals. Today, nearly every HS graduate with a pulse and not in jail attends some form of higher education. And they know they're smart, capable, talented, and good looking because they've been told that for 13 years. But I doubt there are any more intellectuals than the same fraction of the 10% that went to college in 1960.
    , @Issac
    "Say what you will about old-line Marxists, they would have been horrified at the idea of classical Roman and European history being denounced as “racist” and unworthy of study on campuses. "

    Nope. They've always been this way. Cultural demolition as means to upset the bourgeoisie has extremely deep roots in Marxism. The reason the old left has such a bucolic image, in the modern context, is that back then they had to deal with a population who was much more comfortable defending their culture and traditions. They were every bit the monsters we observe today, they just lacked, in most cases, the power to bring their nightmare visions to life. And when they did come into such power, the results were very familiar. See also: Early Bolshevism, Wiemar Germany.
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  151. whorefinder says: • Website

    Mid-level IQ wanna-be-violent Black guy fantasizes openly about a bloody race war against whites, (((certain people))) pay him homage and call him a genius and fawn over him

    Are we living in a retelling of Radical Chic? Is Tom Wolfe suing anyone over this?

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  152. pyrrhus says:
    @Jake
    Reign of terror is what all Liberals want deep down. It takes most of them years to figure that out, and even longer to be able to admit it even to other Liberals. But they want to use fire and sword to destroy everything they deem to be backward, because then they will have created a much better world.

    And then, just as their much desired seizure of power takes place, a Pinochet or Napolean shows up….

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    Somewhat OT, but ironically enough, the Chilean middle class thought that the military would restore democracy and bring about normalcy after the near civil war conditions and recurrent Constitutional crises under Allende. Chile had no history of dictatorship or military involvement in politics, unlike just about every other Latin American nation, so that meant that many Chileans were spectacularly naive about how the military had changed in the 1960s.
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  153. Jack D says:

    Genius T. Coates is making a big mistake if he thinks he gets to sit around knitting while whitey gets the guillotine. Paddock was deranged but he gives you a pretty clear idea of what just one pissed off white man can accomplish. Imagine Paddox time a million and with the possibility of concerted action and them knitting needles ain’t gonna protect the Genius much. The whole SJW game plan seems to be based on the idea of “how far can we push whitey” but I don’t think that they have really played out the implications of pushing whitey too far. They are always talking about backlash and chickens coming home to roost, etc. but they have no idea what a white backlash would look like. It would not be pretty.

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    Genius T. Coates is making a big mistake if he thinks he gets to sit around knitting while whitey gets the guillotine. Paddock was deranged but he gives you a pretty clear idea of what just one pissed off white man can accomplish. Imagine Paddox time a million and with the possibility of concerted action and them knitting needles ain’t gonna protect the Genius much. The whole SJW game plan seems to be based on the idea of “how far can we push whitey” but I don’t think that they have really played out the implications of pushing whitey too far. They are always talking about backlash and chickens coming home to roost, etc. but they have no idea what a white backlash would look like. It would not be pretty.
     
    Given that you contend that this forum is "infested with anti-semites" and are otherwise forever disparaging 'white' people, we'll take these pronouncements with a grain or two of salt. The 'white backlash' you refer to will never occur--as you well know--unless you mean a few clean-cut guys carrying tiki torches; moreover you have spent tens of thousands of words decrying the very few times in history when white people ever stood up for themselves. So, nice attempt at subterfuge, I suppose.
    , @benjaminl
    Long Tweet thread on this theme from around Inauguration Day 2017:


    https://twitter.com/hradzka/status/820130372855955461
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  154. nebulafox says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    I don't think he wants to kill white people, but I think he wants whiteness knocked off of the racial hierarchy. But the problem is there's always a hierarchy, even where there are no whites.

    Adding on to my above tangent: Nixon predicted in 1982 that by 2050, Asians would pretty much run the world.

    In a way, this would be making things worse for most blacks, because most Asians don’t feel guilt about slavery or Jim Crow or actually *believe* progressive theory (although they’ll voice it if they deem it socially necessary, being the de facto religious ideology of our upper classes) like WASP liberals do, and are privately probably willing to contemplate measures to tackle crime or disorder that most well-to-do whites wouldn’t conceive of.

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    Coates should go see Once On This Island, which is coming back to Broadway next month (interestingly, with at least one non-black cast member this time: Lea Solonga from Miss Saigon). That musical, co-written by an Irish man and a Jewish woman, deals with the racial hierarchy on a Caribbean island with no whites.
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  155. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous
    Steve, I can't believe you approved that post.

    It looks to me like Steve deleted the original link but not the comments so you can still get back to the Nazi level cartoon that White American gave the link to. If you really want to get rid of this filth then you have to delete the comments too.

    iSteve may be infested with anti-Semites, but they are mostly QUALITY anti-Semites, I will give them that. White American is not a quality anti-Semite judging by his taste in cartoons.

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  156. SMK says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen
    I don't think he wants to kill white people, but I think he wants whiteness knocked off of the racial hierarchy. But the problem is there's always a hierarchy, even where there are no whites.

    Yes, a consummate example of how to lie and distort reality with statistics: If one excluded all the millionaire and billionaires, overwhelming white and disproportionately Jewish, vastly so, and also the millions of black female-headed families (whose “wealth” is zero or close to zero apart from all their welfare benefits), what then would be the white/black “wealth gap”?

    And Coates is a millionaire who received a 625 thousand MacArthur “genius award.” The wealth-gap between Coates and myself is a 1000-x to 1. He’s a millionaire, like blacks with IQ’s in the 70s and 80s and 90s who are paid millions and tens of millions of dollar a year for playing pro-basketball, football, and baseball, and obscenity-spewing, white-hating, gun-toting “rap-artists,” while I live off $838.78 a month of SS/SSI in a low-cost apartment -albeit I’m far more erudite and intelligent. And, far more importantly, I’m honest and realistic. I live in the real world as opposed to a fantasy world.

    What explains this “wealth-gap”? The answer is simple: we live in a black-supremacist country, a society ruled by blacks and their white-Jewish sycophants, apologists, and enablers, a county in which a buffoon, irrational anti-white hatemonger, psychotic, and charlatan like Coates is gloried as a great thinker who receives a “genius award” while all those who criticize and tell the truth about blacks are vilified as “racists” and “white supremacists,” even “Nazis” and “Fascists,” and are censored, silences, ostracized, marginalized, or, in regard to myself and who knows how many others, impoverished.

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  157. notice says:

    Coates wants a racial communism. I predicted years ago the hard, farthest-left would pursue this end. I was right, despite not wanting to be.

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  158. nebulafox says:
    @pyrrhus
    And then, just as their much desired seizure of power takes place, a Pinochet or Napolean shows up....

    Somewhat OT, but ironically enough, the Chilean middle class thought that the military would restore democracy and bring about normalcy after the near civil war conditions and recurrent Constitutional crises under Allende. Chile had no history of dictatorship or military involvement in politics, unlike just about every other Latin American nation, so that meant that many Chileans were spectacularly naive about how the military had changed in the 1960s.

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    If that is what they thought, then fundamentally they were right (even if it might have taken a little longer than they expected). Countries that are damaged by right wing dictatorships seem to recover much faster and better than countries damaged by the left, many of which never recover at all. If Chile had continued on the Allende path it might have become Venezuela and ultimately Cuba.
    , @L Woods
    The Chilean military dictatorship is an inspiration to us all.
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  159. I reported Steve to the ADL for that offensive cartoon.

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    How brave of you! Are you a professional snitch? Your family must be proud of you.
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  160. Jack D says:
    @Anon
    Get on the job of destroying the Jew/wasp world domination already.
    Hint : it won't be accomplished by posting comments online 24/7.
    Do let us know when you have toppled them though, you happy normal person you.

    The internet is a lousy medium for sarcasm (at least I hope this was sarcasm). In addition it is read by various deranged persons. So your “get on with it” jest might be taken seriously by some nut job and I suggest not making any more jokes in that vein.

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    That sarcasm wasn't hard to spot--except I'll grant you it was only partly tongue-in-cheek. It seems like every other post from CP includes a comment/criticism about WASP/Jewish domination. A skipping record comes to mind...
    , @Anon
    Don't worry Jack , ole Chuck is too busy fantasizing about the glorious"Normans" to get off his booty and do some damage to the Wasps and Jews he so despises. His Cutlass is sheathed though , and when the Norman army rises , the name Pewitt will be known to all people, Norman and their inferiors alike.
    , @anonymous

    The internet is a lousy medium for sarcasm
     
    Thanks for this very informative comment. I really appreciate it.
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  161. dr kill says:
    @AndrewR
    Wtf are you talking about? None of my comments are automatically published.

    Welcome to the club.

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  162. Sygurd says:
    @SMK
    The "complete abolition of race as a construct." What does that mean? Obviously, this psychotic believes that race is an "artificial social construct," but what does it mean to abolish race "as a construct? What laws and policies would be required to abolish race "as a construct" as opposed to a biological reality? He hates whites, obsessively, and secretly wants to exterminate them, physically, albeit whiteness is an "artificial social construct." In a sane country, this white-hating psychotic would be an object of derision, hated and/or pitied by the few whites who know him, or a patient in an insane asylum, rather than exalted as a "great mind" and America's leading black intellectual.

    Obviously, this psychotic believes that race is an “artificial social construct”

    He doesn’t though. Tallahassee believes white, ahrem, sorry “people who think they are white” are artificial devils (created by Yakub maybe?), but his blackness is obviously very important and very real to him.

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  163. AM says:
    @Broski
    In further response, what does work? Pepe the Frog works--ridicule. Even the Happy Merchant works, appropriately applied, because it evidences universal truths that are not widely acknowledged in polite company. Calling our hereditary, formerly enslaved underclass slurs is not helpful.

    In further response, what does work? Pepe the Frog works–ridicule.

    Pepe The Frog is interesting though, because there’s no baggage associated with him. Yes, you can Hillary Clinton to shriek “He’s racist!”.

    However, all but the deepest kool-aid drinkers or Twitter users (but I repeat myself) are going to scratch their heads at the association.

    Everyone knows the “n” word is bad. It’s a variation of negro, slang, and in use for hundreds of years now. It’s like wandering around in Nazi uniforms or completely naked. You’re not going to friends because we all know you’re basically going for the shock value.

    But Pepe? He’s a cartoon character with no widely known backstory. It doesn’t help that most people with the Pepe avatars seem to be prankster/fun loving people with a genuine sense of humor. The real joy of Pepe is he makes SJW types look like the brittle, humorless maroons that they are.

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  164. Jack D says:
    @27 year old

    Yes. They want to kill the very people who produce so much abundance that it allows tens, arguably hundreds, of millions of them to never have a job and live a life of leisure. Good luck to them after they get their wish.
     
    "oh they're gonna miss us when we're gone" = losing with dignity

    They would on some level be happier starving, telling themselves about how they finally conquered the White oppressor.

    The common folks in Zimbabwe and Venezuela (which BTW has a much bigger racial dimension that is shown in the popular press) are not exactly happy about starving but nobody really asked them (as opposed to manipulating them). You have to understand that the common folks everywhere rarely get a say in what happens except as pawns on the chess board. What we have now is a battle between various elites, some of which are browner than others. When the dust settles, one elite or another will be in charge and that elite might or might not be the same color (more or less) as the majority but whoever they are, the winning elite is going to get the lion’s share of the goodies and the average poor schmuck in the street is going to get the table scraps. Maybe you can convince him that he is better off because the people stealing from him are now the same color as he is, but that doesn’t fill your belly.

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  165. Is there anyway to find out just how much Marvel lost on The Genius’ comic book? If it’s out after only 6 issues, so I can only assume it’s quite a bit. Maybe he’s so glum and bloody minded because he realized he can only publish memoirs for the rest of his career? Why is this so terrible? Didn’t Maya Angelou write 7 or so?

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  166. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @nebulafox
    Adding on to my above tangent: Nixon predicted in 1982 that by 2050, Asians would pretty much run the world.

    In a way, this would be making things worse for most blacks, because most Asians don’t feel guilt about slavery or Jim Crow or actually *believe* progressive theory (although they'll voice it if they deem it socially necessary, being the de facto religious ideology of our upper classes) like WASP liberals do, and are privately probably willing to contemplate measures to tackle crime or disorder that most well-to-do whites wouldn’t conceive of.

    Coates should go see Once On This Island, which is coming back to Broadway next month (interestingly, with at least one non-black cast member this time: Lea Solonga from Miss Saigon). That musical, co-written by an Irish man and a Jewish woman, deals with the racial hierarchy on a Caribbean island with no whites.

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  167. Jack D says:
    @nebulafox
    Somewhat OT, but ironically enough, the Chilean middle class thought that the military would restore democracy and bring about normalcy after the near civil war conditions and recurrent Constitutional crises under Allende. Chile had no history of dictatorship or military involvement in politics, unlike just about every other Latin American nation, so that meant that many Chileans were spectacularly naive about how the military had changed in the 1960s.

    If that is what they thought, then fundamentally they were right (even if it might have taken a little longer than they expected). Countries that are damaged by right wing dictatorships seem to recover much faster and better than countries damaged by the left, many of which never recover at all. If Chile had continued on the Allende path it might have become Venezuela and ultimately Cuba.

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    If Allende had remained in power, there would have eventually been armed conflict. He couldn't keep the radicals in his coalition under control, which in turn alienated the middle class. The economy was in the toilet-nobody in their right mind would make a loan to Chile under Allende. Chile was already noted to have been in near civil war conditions by late 1972, and that was before the Constitutional crisis and gridlock started. Luckily, the USSR decided earlier that year that Allende was more trouble than he was worth, for a variety of reasons (one being that Castro and Allende grossly misjudged where he laid in Moscow's pecking order relative to Nixon during detente), and had quietly stopped funding him or counteracting American and Brazilian intelligence actions in Chile-which turned out to be a smart decision, as he became more useful to TASS in death than he ever was alive. Pinochet essentially became the new Franco pseudo-fascist hate figure for a whole new generation of leftists. Though he really had no one but himself to blame for this, given his own rhetoric, the book burnings and the torture camps.

    But yes. That was the only way the military could have had such broad support for the coup among the bourgeoisie and the CDU. Chile wasn't Argentina-the military was looked upon as guardians of republican tradition. What they failed to realize was that the Security Doctrine of the 1960s had strongly changed the military's previously apolitical nature. Interestingly enough, Pinochet actually put down a previous coup attempt against Allende-the Tanquetazo-a few months earlier. I'm guessing he noticed that Santiago's working class slum dwellers weren't willing to fight for Allende. Castro-a close personal friend of Allende's who regularly vacationed in Chile-also noted this and kept pleading with Allende to start using more violence against his enemies.

    >Countries that are damaged by right wing dictatorships seem to recover much faster and better than countries damaged by the left, many of which never recover at all.

    I have an even scarier example: pause to imagine what Indonesia would look like today had the PKI taken power instead of Suharto in the mid-1960s. Unlike Allende-a bourgeois politician-these guys were open Maoists being armed and aided by Cultural Revolution-era China. Driving around Jakarta in 1964, you could see billboards put up by the PKI of Westerners being gruesomely bayoneted. All this in the context of 600+% inflation, the Konfrontasi, communal tensions (Darul Islam caused major problems in the 1950s), near famine since Sukarno had banned foreign food aid a few years earlier, and a generally impoverished 3rd World backwater still afflicted with the likes of smallpox. Tens of millions of people would have died.
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  168. @Thea
    Agreed
    The articles here are a precious pearl of quality without animus. It is a very good first step to wake people up. Plenty of other websites offer material like that.

    Everybody has me curious now about what was awful enough to deny us the privilege to see.

    It’s important to see what’s in people’s hearts, the good, the ugly and the truth.

    Was it at least tastelessly humorous in a South Park way?
    No cow too sacred for making juicy (I’m assuming unkosher) cheeseburgers?

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    From what I remember it was closer to a threat than a joke. It was a charicarure with a Jew (big nose& skull cap) and a black man pointing a knife at the viewer. It used the n word. Sorry that's all I remember.

    Fwiw it was off putting to me and I'm usually comfortable with offensive humor.
    , @Opinionator
    It was equivalent to the "Dey terk er jobs!" caricature.
    , @Vinteuil
    There was nothing humorous about it.

    "N*****s, Jews - Bad News."
    , @guest
    It was just a caricatured Jew and black guy teaming up. Nothing to bat an eye at on "edgy" sites, but overly crude for this environ.
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  169. dr kill says:
    @Cynical
    The funny part is Ta-Nehisi Coates is right....

    Most of your conservaboomers assume that white American conservatives will win Civil War 2...

    "Look at who has all the guns... it will be the shortest Civil War evah!"

    "All conservatives have guns, just wait until Uncle Bob starts shooting back with his 30-30! Those liberals will be in real trouble then!"

    No, sorry, it won't turn out like the "Turner Diaries"...

    1. More than 100 years of (((programming))) has made your average Amerikwan as easy to manipulate as a bowl of spaghetti...

    2. Look at what happened after Oklahoma City... 9-11... Charlottesville... all you need is for one "white terrorist" act to occur and your average Kwan will be back to waving his flag like a good little goy...

    3. I imagine you will see a lot of ads like this on Craigslist: "Conservative AR-15 for sale, never fired but only dropped once."

    4. Seriously, you think your average fat, wheezing boomer conservatard is going to get his overweight ass his couch to fight a war? You really believe that? We can't even get these lardmasses to turn off their Talmudvision and fooseball. Good luck once hot lead is flying!

    5. "But don't we have Trump, the police and U.S. military on our side?" Do you really? What happens when your beloved GOP impeaches Trump? And take a good look at your average city police force...filled with blacks, Mexican, etc. The U.S. Army. is filled with Mexican narco gang members. And just wait until the (((Deep State)))) makes the accusation that "white nationalists" are on the same side as the Iranians and Russian or Moooslims. Your average Mexican GI will have no problem mowing you down like an average Palestinian.

    In short, most Amerikwans will be on the side of Ta-Nehisi Coates and (((our leaders))) in the event our cultural cold war here in the U.S. goes hot.

    “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct, and being horrified by the process, maybe even attacking the process. I think these things don’t tend to happen peacefully.” - cries out the Kwan as walks himself voluntarily into his local FEMA camp.

    Welcome to you, Cynical. I see today’s comment is your first. Many of us old, fat guys don’t read much better than we walk, so try to organize your thoughts a bit better for us. TY.

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  170. @AndrewR
    I've said it before and I'll say it again: Coates' perpetual resentment is not really towards People Who Believe They Are White in a society he perceives as White Supremacist, nor is it even towards the anti-intellectual Black Body majority who ceaselessly tormented him for being nerdy and bookish as a child.

    Nay: the gargantuan chip on his shoulder primarily stems from the fact that he has an absolutely hideous (albeit highly symmetrical) face. Being more physically repulsive than >98% of the population must have a very scarring effect on the psyche. But writing about how awful white people are is more profitable than writing about how much it sucks to look like a big mouth bass.

    He looks like he has Zika.

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  171. Jack D says:
    @syonredux
    For TNC, it's still pre-1965, and America is a Black and White country:

    Last week, I interviewed Coates for my podcast. I asked him to describe the world in which justice had been done, in which equality had been achieved, in which hope was merited. "We have a 20-to-1 wealth gap," Coates replied. "Every nickel of wealth the average black family has, the average white family has a dollar. What is the world in which that wealth gap is closed? What happens? What makes that possible? What does that look like? What is the process?"
     
    I wonder if TNC ever contemplates the Black-Asian wealth gap......

    Notice he talks about a WEALTH gap, not an income gap. Black vs. white incomes are not that different – nothing like a 20 to 1 gap, instead maybe 30%. The difference is that black people are not in the habit of saving any money. Brother gets a Christmas bonus, next week he has a new set of rims. So the average black family has a net worth of approximately zero.

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  172. L Woods says:
    @nebulafox
    Somewhat OT, but ironically enough, the Chilean middle class thought that the military would restore democracy and bring about normalcy after the near civil war conditions and recurrent Constitutional crises under Allende. Chile had no history of dictatorship or military involvement in politics, unlike just about every other Latin American nation, so that meant that many Chileans were spectacularly naive about how the military had changed in the 1960s.

    The Chilean military dictatorship is an inspiration to us all.

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    Meh. Chile in the mid-1970s was the first example of a Friedmanite economic state. The unnecessary ideological radicalism of the Chicago Boys led to the financial crisis of the early 1980s. Not a fan. Plus there's the whole Villa Grimaldi thing, along with all the horrors from DINA. It wasn't for nothing that Contreras hosted the planning of Operation Condor in Santiago. Communist propaganda regarding Chile hit home in the West because a lot of it was true.

    It probably would have just been better for everybody if the CDU stayed in power and the whole mess could have been avoided.

    A little OT, but while I'm at it: the Berkeley Mafia in Indonesia is often compared to the Chicago Boys, but the two were quite different operationally. The former were far more ideologically pragmatic and development-minded (Ataturk, USSR, Japan, Thatcher, they borrowed from them all) and were also kept in strict control by Suharto in a way the Chileans never were under Pinochet. IMO, the Berkeley Mafia and the New Order benefited even poor Indonesians in a way the Chicago Boys and the junta didn't poor Chileans.

    Granted, Chile was also more or less a Western nation whereas Indonesia was a 3rd World hellhole, so there's also a matter of different starting points, development-wise. There's also the fact that Suharto's hands were far bloodier than Pinochet's (though, again, a lot of this had to do with the stark differences between Indonesia and Chile), and far more corrupt.

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  173. Anan says:

    Thanks for the still of Blanche Yurka as Madame DeFarge. She put in a fantastic performance.

    Dammital Mr Sailer I’m just trying to compliment a great actress here, why are you blocking me, why are you TRYING TO HURT ME?

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  174. @jorge videla (BGI volunteer)
    i love reading sailer because his blog always freezes my laptop and i have to unplug it.

    what a piece of shit.

    What, the laptop?

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  175. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D
    If that is what they thought, then fundamentally they were right (even if it might have taken a little longer than they expected). Countries that are damaged by right wing dictatorships seem to recover much faster and better than countries damaged by the left, many of which never recover at all. If Chile had continued on the Allende path it might have become Venezuela and ultimately Cuba.

    If Allende had remained in power, there would have eventually been armed conflict. He couldn’t keep the radicals in his coalition under control, which in turn alienated the middle class. The economy was in the toilet-nobody in their right mind would make a loan to Chile under Allende. Chile was already noted to have been in near civil war conditions by late 1972, and that was before the Constitutional crisis and gridlock started. Luckily, the USSR decided earlier that year that Allende was more trouble than he was worth, for a variety of reasons (one being that Castro and Allende grossly misjudged where he laid in Moscow’s pecking order relative to Nixon during detente), and had quietly stopped funding him or counteracting American and Brazilian intelligence actions in Chile-which turned out to be a smart decision, as he became more useful to TASS in death than he ever was alive. Pinochet essentially became the new Franco pseudo-fascist hate figure for a whole new generation of leftists. Though he really had no one but himself to blame for this, given his own rhetoric, the book burnings and the torture camps.

    But yes. That was the only way the military could have had such broad support for the coup among the bourgeoisie and the CDU. Chile wasn’t Argentina-the military was looked upon as guardians of republican tradition. What they failed to realize was that the Security Doctrine of the 1960s had strongly changed the military’s previously apolitical nature. Interestingly enough, Pinochet actually put down a previous coup attempt against Allende-the Tanquetazo-a few months earlier. I’m guessing he noticed that Santiago’s working class slum dwellers weren’t willing to fight for Allende. Castro-a close personal friend of Allende’s who regularly vacationed in Chile-also noted this and kept pleading with Allende to start using more violence against his enemies.

    >Countries that are damaged by right wing dictatorships seem to recover much faster and better than countries damaged by the left, many of which never recover at all.

    I have an even scarier example: pause to imagine what Indonesia would look like today had the PKI taken power instead of Suharto in the mid-1960s. Unlike Allende-a bourgeois politician-these guys were open Maoists being armed and aided by Cultural Revolution-era China. Driving around Jakarta in 1964, you could see billboards put up by the PKI of Westerners being gruesomely bayoneted. All this in the context of 600+% inflation, the Konfrontasi, communal tensions (Darul Islam caused major problems in the 1950s), near famine since Sukarno had banned foreign food aid a few years earlier, and a generally impoverished 3rd World backwater still afflicted with the likes of smallpox. Tens of millions of people would have died.

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    The Year of Living Dangerously is (by Hollywood standards) a fairly solid attempt at giving the flavor of the events at that time (keeping in mind that most Americans couldn't find Indonesia on a map and don't know Sukarno from Suharto and PKI from KFC).

    While Communism is mostly dead and gone from Europe, most of the places conquered by Communism in Asia remain at least nominally Communist and I would guess that Indonesia would still be one of them if the PKI had succeeded.

    What is your prediction for what will happen next in Venezuela?
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  176. @anonymous
    This public mediocrity must be feeling bolder these days and more comfortable in expressing his race hatred and sadistic impulses. And as he does so more and more chump glassy-eyed whites will rush to put yet more money into his bank account. There's always been a market for the angry, fist-waving black among a certain segment of the white population. Do any of them ever get tired of being masochists?

    An oldy but a goody:

    Radical Chic

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  177. nebulafox says:
    @L Woods
    The Chilean military dictatorship is an inspiration to us all.

    Meh. Chile in the mid-1970s was the first example of a Friedmanite economic state. The unnecessary ideological radicalism of the Chicago Boys led to the financial crisis of the early 1980s. Not a fan. Plus there’s the whole Villa Grimaldi thing, along with all the horrors from DINA. It wasn’t for nothing that Contreras hosted the planning of Operation Condor in Santiago. Communist propaganda regarding Chile hit home in the West because a lot of it was true.

    It probably would have just been better for everybody if the CDU stayed in power and the whole mess could have been avoided.

    A little OT, but while I’m at it: the Berkeley Mafia in Indonesia is often compared to the Chicago Boys, but the two were quite different operationally. The former were far more ideologically pragmatic and development-minded (Ataturk, USSR, Japan, Thatcher, they borrowed from them all) and were also kept in strict control by Suharto in a way the Chileans never were under Pinochet. IMO, the Berkeley Mafia and the New Order benefited even poor Indonesians in a way the Chicago Boys and the junta didn’t poor Chileans.

    Granted, Chile was also more or less a Western nation whereas Indonesia was a 3rd World hellhole, so there’s also a matter of different starting points, development-wise. There’s also the fact that Suharto’s hands were far bloodier than Pinochet’s (though, again, a lot of this had to do with the stark differences between Indonesia and Chile), and far more corrupt.

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  178. Thirdtwin says:

    “…and maybe the complete abolition of a race as a construct…”

    You left out an “a”, Tawny Coats, but I got your back.

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  179. Alfa158 says:
    @nebulafox
    The general intellectual quality of the Left has declined immensely over the past 50 years. Say what you will about old-line Marxists, they would have been horrified at the idea of classical Roman and European history being denounced as "racist" and unworthy of study on campuses.

    Though granted, the Right isn't much better here. Can you imagine the likes of Dubya or Trump having a conversation with advisors on an intellectual level like this?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nixon-and-moynihan-talk-iq-and-race/

    Intellectual decline has been a pretty society wide-thing in the US. (And let me be no hypocrite: I've got a long, long way to go to make up for lost time in learning, being a product of the 2000s American educational system and having wasted my youth. Maybe it's too late, but at least I can become less dumb.)

    I’m old enough to have been in college in the 60′s so I have watched the intellectual decline of the Left. My theory is that it was caused by the increasing dissonance between their theories and reality. 50 years of implementing their program around most of the world has demonstrated the fallacies in their ideology, i.e. the collapse of Communism in China and it’s replacement with a National Socialist oligarchy, the impoverished conditions of the remaining Communist nations, the failure of half a century of closing the racial gap to have any results, etc. etc.
    The problem is that their belief system has totally supplanted all others in education and culture plus they still find the abstract ideas attractive emotionally and lucrative personally. As a result they have had to self-lobotomize themselves in order to be able to continue to believe their dogma. As Dennis Prager has commented, some ideas are so stupid that you have to have gone to graduate school to believe them, i.e. they need the extra immersion in the conditioning to believe them. Even the few remaining bright Leftists who are capable of rigorous and logical thought in a profession such as the Law, have trained themselves to practice CrimeStop and turn off their faculties when it comes to sociology, economics, biology and politics in order to avoid thinking bad things.

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    What about the Iraq War?

    I can't think of any modern leftist idea that was that stupid.
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  180. guest says:
    @Cloud of Probable Matricide
    Is Coates basically a decent guy who unfortunately got famous and has to play a role?

    No. Nobody forces him to do anything. It’s his choice.

    If he doesn’t want to dance for them, he can fall back into obscurity with the rest of us. “Oh, what a horrible fate,” I lament sarcastically.

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  181. guest says:
    @Anonymouse
    There was another interview of ta-nehisi coates (did i get that right?) last night on PBS. He came across as good-natured in feature and manner. I read somewhere that he bought an apartment in Paris recently and is having his son educated there. asked if he was writing an important novel, he admitted depreciatingly that he was. i may be reading more into it than is there but i got the sense that he is somewhat bemused at his great good fortune of being the right man at the right time. through the agency of cosmic indifference i have been acquainted with 3 other McArthur genius awardees. Bob Blackburn, a gentlemanly black man who founded an art press in NYC, who was able to retire to the Chelsea Hotel where he deceased. He is described not by name in Joseph O'Neill's Netherland. I knew Evelyn Fox slightly who took a Ph.D. in math at MIT and went full-bore feminist suprematist apologist which presumably won her her genius. Last I heard she was at Berkeley a prof in their Dept. of Rhetoric (seriously). Vickie Foe was a tall blond noli me tangeri Texas boots wearing goddess type biology major at the U of Texas who wound up maintaining an alternative albeit subsidized bio lab in a picturesque back country setting. i have no idea what alternative biology is.

    I think I may have caught a bit of that interview. I thought to myself, “is that the Tennessee Coates?” But didn’t care enough to find out. He came off as a dime-a-dozen “clean, articulate black man” complaining about white privilege. Yawn.

    If he were white I’d wonder, “Whose nephew is he?”

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  182. bomag says:
    @Bill
    Life has gotten a lot better for the black elite in South Africa.

    Life has gotten a lot better for the ____ elite in ______.

    Not the model of choice.

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  183. guest says:
    @Barnard

    "We have a 20-to-1 wealth gap," Coates replied. "Every nickel of wealth the average black family has, the average white family has a dollar. What is the world in which that wealth gap is closed? What happens? What makes that possible? What does that look like? What is the process?"
     
    Well if the average black family has zero agency in their personal wealth management, you are going to have to destroy white wealth in order to close that gap. I would say it looks like Zimbabwe or South Africa. If that is the world Coates wants, why doesn't he just move to Harare now?

    Blacks have the right to waste their money on spinning rims, dental bling, and anything they please without suffering in comparison to whites because Legacy of Servitude.

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  184. Forbes says:
    @mobi
    OT:

    According to The Economist 'Intelligence Unit', Chicago is actually one of 3 safest US cities - 19th in the entire world.

    Because, you see, Mayor Rahm Emmanuel's 'initiative in cybersecurity training through local colleges and the Department of Defense' trumps actual murder.

    Take that, Trumpkins!

    http://safecities.economist.com/safe-cities-index-2017-infographic

    Chicago. at one-third the size of NYC, has more murders than NYC, but is ranked safer.

    Must be New Math.

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  185. Forbes says:
    @dwb
    I love the lyrical definition of expert.

    I've often said that an expert is someone who knows everything but understands nothing.

    That definition works too. Similar to: The materialist (money grubber, miser, et al.) who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.

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  186. Forbes says:
    @Frank DeScushin

    “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct,"
     
    There is no process that will lead to equality because humans are not equal, and there is no process that will lead to the abolition of race as a construct because race is real. Coates is asking for a process to eradicate human nature, but you can't eradicate human nature no matter how much force and propaganda you use.

    Well, eradicating humans will solve the quandary…

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  187. @Cloud of Probable Matricide
    Is Coates basically a decent guy who unfortunately got famous and has to play a role?

    Is Coates basically a decent guy who unfortunately got famous and has to play a role?

    Why? Cause he doesn’t beat his wife?

    He’s a–really whiny and pathetic–race hustler who amps up a false narrative of “oppression” as being black American’s problem, mostly to serve up to the white liberal establishment and make himself a buck. It’s an intellectually dishonest and sleazy trade that makes race relations worse and is part of the process of justifying the assault on whites’ right to keep their nation.

    If his only intellectual interest is blacks, then he could use his little perch to try and delve into “the black condition” with some actual nuance and honesty. It’s not as if it’s some big ass mystery what’s going on. He choses not to, from some combination of resentment, malice and greed.

    Not a “decent guy”.

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  188. guest says:
    @anonymous
    If Genius T is Madame DeFarge/Blanche Yurka, then who's Sidney Carton/Ronald Coleman? Or IS there anyone who fits the bill? "It is a far, far better thing that I do..." etc.

    Sydney Carton’s sacrifice was parochial. I want to know where the Thermidorian reaction will come from. Who is our Fouche, and more importantly, our Napoleon?

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  189. Forbes says:
    @Art Deco
    The complaints about the 'wealth gap' indicate that neither Klein nor Coates have any idea why some people are wealthy and most are not and what the source of a modest pool of assets in a household really is.

    Bingo. Both Ezra Klein and Tennessee Coates have developed public profiles/personas in the internet era of social media–basically self-promotion media. And no doubt they have garnered incomes vastly higher than would’ve been the case, say in the ’80s, when they deservedly would’ve been nobodies.

    For them, advertising supported media has been equivalent to a winning lottery ticket–but they don’t know it. Work that entails sweat and dirt and grind is outside their experience as keyboard warriors.

    They address wealth as if it’s something handed out–and unfairly so–rather than the result of productive effort, impulse control/deferred gratification, and the prioritizing of savings and investment over consumption. If someone else were in charge (them), there’d be better allocation–like handing out candy of Halloween–without ever understanding where the candy came from..

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    Work that entails sweat and dirt and grind is outside their experience as keyboard warriors. They address wealth as if it’s something handed out–and unfairly so–rather than the result of productive effort,
     
    These aren't the only options. Wall St money is not made by productive effort. However, it is also not handed out.
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  190. Flip says:
    @nebulafox
    Meh. Chile in the mid-1970s was the first example of a Friedmanite economic state. The unnecessary ideological radicalism of the Chicago Boys led to the financial crisis of the early 1980s. Not a fan. Plus there's the whole Villa Grimaldi thing, along with all the horrors from DINA. It wasn't for nothing that Contreras hosted the planning of Operation Condor in Santiago. Communist propaganda regarding Chile hit home in the West because a lot of it was true.

    It probably would have just been better for everybody if the CDU stayed in power and the whole mess could have been avoided.

    A little OT, but while I'm at it: the Berkeley Mafia in Indonesia is often compared to the Chicago Boys, but the two were quite different operationally. The former were far more ideologically pragmatic and development-minded (Ataturk, USSR, Japan, Thatcher, they borrowed from them all) and were also kept in strict control by Suharto in a way the Chileans never were under Pinochet. IMO, the Berkeley Mafia and the New Order benefited even poor Indonesians in a way the Chicago Boys and the junta didn't poor Chileans.

    Granted, Chile was also more or less a Western nation whereas Indonesia was a 3rd World hellhole, so there's also a matter of different starting points, development-wise. There's also the fact that Suharto's hands were far bloodier than Pinochet's (though, again, a lot of this had to do with the stark differences between Indonesia and Chile), and far more corrupt.

    I seem to recall that the Chicago boys basically fixed the economy under Pinochet that Allende wrecked.

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    Allende did a great deal of damage, but the Southern Cone countries had been suffering since the advent of the Depression (terrible double-digit inflation during the 50s and 60s, for starters). In the 1920s, the Uruguay, Chile, and Argentina were 2d tier affluent countries (like Spain and Israel today) and constitutional by default. By 1973, they were passably middle-income countries with all sorts of vexatious ailments (and so decayed politically that military rule was the best option).
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  191. Redman says:
    @Broski
    I disagree. The argument against rac[e real]ism that has mass cultural currency is that racism is a delusion of the rabidly deranged (think gentile JPods). Use of the n-word, in virtually any circumstance, bolsters that argument.

    Undoubtedly true.

    But as someone who rides the NYC subways every day, the N-word is probably heard more often than any other.

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  192. Forbes says:
    @Veracitor
    The only meaningful "wealth gap" in America is between the 0.1% and the 99.9% of the population. Everyone in the 99.9% is quite close together on the wealth scale. In fact, the wealth difference between the poorest and richest among the 99.9% is less than 1/10 of the difference between the richest of the 99.9% and the typical member of the 0.1%.

    When Ezra Klein equates the "wealth gap" to "white supremacy" he is just spewing propaganda for the 0.1%, the ruling class, who don't want you to notice their astonishing, exponential supremacy in wealth and therefore power.

    Virtually all the whites in America live on the bottom side of the "wealth gap" with the non-whites. What kind of "white supremacy" leaves virtually all of the "whites" out of the "supremacy?"

    Media, legacy, ankle-biting, even kiddie-young adult sites like Vox have to repeat The Narrative, and keep the Big Lie going.

    Twain’s aphorism about not reading newspapers remains true–that reading newspapers kept you misinformed.

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  193. Bugg says:

    So a man brought to tears by some middle-aged white lady in an elevator and scared to paralysis by the street violence of his childhood neighborhood is on a dime going to turn into a cold-blooded avenging killer.

    Sure.

    Stick to comic books, little guy.

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  194. Forbes says:
    @Jack D
    The internet is a lousy medium for sarcasm (at least I hope this was sarcasm). In addition it is read by various deranged persons. So your "get on with it" jest might be taken seriously by some nut job and I suggest not making any more jokes in that vein.

    That sarcasm wasn’t hard to spot–except I’ll grant you it was only partly tongue-in-cheek. It seems like every other post from CP includes a comment/criticism about WASP/Jewish domination. A skipping record comes to mind…

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  195. I think these things don’t tend to happen peacefully.

    They didn’t in Haiti.

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  196. Broski says:
    @Art Deco
    The Economist, by which you mean the official organ of the Rothschild family? (Shhh they don’t exist.)

    The sum of Rothschild enterprises (which are in two sets run by competing crews of collateral relatives) have assets about that of the Bank of Hawaii.

    In reality, of course, you have absolutely no idea what their assets are because the controlling entities are privately held.

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    The various Rothschild enterprises publish their balance sheets and statement of income.
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  197. Broski says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Whatever lies you gotta tell yourself so you can wrap yourself in your boomercuck security blankey, soymale.

    Yeah… not sure what this even means. Methinks it means nothing.

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  198. Forbes says:
    @nebulafox
    The general intellectual quality of the Left has declined immensely over the past 50 years. Say what you will about old-line Marxists, they would have been horrified at the idea of classical Roman and European history being denounced as "racist" and unworthy of study on campuses.

    Though granted, the Right isn't much better here. Can you imagine the likes of Dubya or Trump having a conversation with advisors on an intellectual level like this?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nixon-and-moynihan-talk-iq-and-race/

    Intellectual decline has been a pretty society wide-thing in the US. (And let me be no hypocrite: I've got a long, long way to go to make up for lost time in learning, being a product of the 2000s American educational system and having wasted my youth. Maybe it's too late, but at least I can become less dumb.)

    I think it’s simpler than that, i.e. intellectual decline as society-wide. In a technical sense, yes, because very few people care about being, in the cultural sense, an intellectual.

    As a culture we’ve told every student, every child, every person they’re just as smart and capable and talented and good looking as the next (PC writ large)–and anyone who disagrees is to be ostracized, and driven from polite society. The result is that people “don’t know better,” as my grandmother would say. They open their mouths and foolishness runs out–they “don’t know better” to keep their mouth shut.

    In 1960, about 10% of high school graduates matriculated at 4-year colleges–some of those became intellectuals. Today, nearly every HS graduate with a pulse and not in jail attends some form of higher education. And they know they’re smart, capable, talented, and good looking because they’ve been told that for 13 years. But I doubt there are any more intellectuals than the same fraction of the 10% that went to college in 1960.

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    High school enrollments in the United States in fall 1955 were around 8 million. Post-secondary enrollments in fall 1959 were around 3.6 million, or about 45% of the former high school population. That encompasses 2-year and 4-year colleges. About 1/3 of the students enrolled in college at that time were p/t students. There were 392,000 BA degrees conferred during the 1959/60 academic year. There would have been roughly 1.7 million high school seniors during the 1955/56 academic year. The BA degrees awarded would have been about 23% of those enrolled as high school seniors in 1955/56. Roughly 70% of each birth cohort enrolled in their senior year in HS, so the BA would have been awarded to about 16% or so of the relevant cohort. I think the comparable figure today is about 43%.
    , @Authenticjazzman
    Amen, and I can recall an idiotic speach given by MO in my once glorious hometown, now destroyed by fifty years of Democrat rule, Detroit, in which she actually stated that "all" black kids should attend university.
    The concept of "all" kids, black or white attending university is rediculous beyond words.
    It is simply hopeless and futile to think that these stupid leftist nut-cases will ever come to their senses, when such vacuous BSers and charlatans as Coates are considered to be "Intellectual": they wouldn't recognize an "Intellectual" if he slapped them in their insolent dumbass faces, and now we are to be assaulted and
    stalked by his nonsensical jabberwocky til the cows come home.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained U S Army Vet and pro jazz artist.

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  199. Bill says:
    @Bill
    Life has gotten a lot better for the black elite in South Africa.

    Instead of hiding out in Angola or languishing in prison, they have wealth and power.

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  200. @Cynical
    The funny part is Ta-Nehisi Coates is right....

    Most of your conservaboomers assume that white American conservatives will win Civil War 2...

    "Look at who has all the guns... it will be the shortest Civil War evah!"

    "All conservatives have guns, just wait until Uncle Bob starts shooting back with his 30-30! Those liberals will be in real trouble then!"

    No, sorry, it won't turn out like the "Turner Diaries"...

    1. More than 100 years of (((programming))) has made your average Amerikwan as easy to manipulate as a bowl of spaghetti...

    2. Look at what happened after Oklahoma City... 9-11... Charlottesville... all you need is for one "white terrorist" act to occur and your average Kwan will be back to waving his flag like a good little goy...

    3. I imagine you will see a lot of ads like this on Craigslist: "Conservative AR-15 for sale, never fired but only dropped once."

    4. Seriously, you think your average fat, wheezing boomer conservatard is going to get his overweight ass his couch to fight a war? You really believe that? We can't even get these lardmasses to turn off their Talmudvision and fooseball. Good luck once hot lead is flying!

    5. "But don't we have Trump, the police and U.S. military on our side?" Do you really? What happens when your beloved GOP impeaches Trump? And take a good look at your average city police force...filled with blacks, Mexican, etc. The U.S. Army. is filled with Mexican narco gang members. And just wait until the (((Deep State)))) makes the accusation that "white nationalists" are on the same side as the Iranians and Russian or Moooslims. Your average Mexican GI will have no problem mowing you down like an average Palestinian.

    In short, most Amerikwans will be on the side of Ta-Nehisi Coates and (((our leaders))) in the event our cultural cold war here in the U.S. goes hot.

    “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct, and being horrified by the process, maybe even attacking the process. I think these things don’t tend to happen peacefully.” - cries out the Kwan as walks himself voluntarily into his local FEMA camp.

    Who knows? Other US citizens have thought the same and one person decided to do something about it, Jack Dailey, a former Chicagoan. He decided to create Project Appleseed in April 2006.

    “Project Appleseed started from a series of ads that became ads with monthly columns appearing in Shotgun News, a monthly gun trade newspaper publication. These ads were written under a pseudonym by a fellow who simply called himself “Fred”. “Fred,” the founder of Project Appleseed, whose real name is Jack Dailey, has been writing a column—actually a portion of ad space for Fred’s M14 Stocks—since 1999.[8] A common theme in these columns is “Are you a cook or a rifleman?”, a “cook” being Fred’s term for an unqualified rifleman. The name of the project was in deference to Johnny Appleseed, an American pioneer nurseryman and grass roots missionary who traveled the American frontier planting apple trees across the land with the goal of spreading the number of apple trees in America; Fred’s goal was to accomplish the same with civic-minded Riflemen in America. Project Appleseed itself began in April 2006 in Ramseur, North Carolina.[4]”

    How effective has Appleseed been to train Americans in the proper use of semi-automatic rifles like your ‘once dropped AR-15?’

    “In 2006, Appleseed instructors began a national tour to attract new instructors who could maintain and develop local programs.[9] In 2008, Appleseed had nearly 4,000 attendees. In 2009, there were more than 450 scheduled Appleseed events that taught 10,000 shooters. In 2010, 32,000 had been taught to shoot by the end of the year.[8] In 2012, there were over 1,000 Appleseeds held, by which time over 40,000 shooters had been taught. In addition, a select cadre of Appleseed instructors from across the nation gathered at Fort Stewart, GA and taught a deploying Army unit in marksmanship skills in 2012. By late 2014, over 75,000 shooters had been taught.”

    “An Appleseed contains breaks during which oral histories are told of the events leading up to the American Revolution, specifically the Battles of Lexington and Concord, and the subsequent British retreat to Boston. Also told are the Three Strikes of the Match, of the 3 events along Battle Road that had to occur prior to the Revolutionary War flaming into a full-out war.[2] These oral histories include an overview of the events of April 18–20, 1775 but focus on stories of individuals such as Paul Revere, Dr. Samuel Prescott, and William Dawes; Captains John Parker (Lexington), Isaac Davis (Acton), and Hezekiah Wyman; Elizabeth Zane; and octogenarian Samuel Whittemore, the oldest known colonial combatant in the American Revolutionary War.[1][4] Stories of Daniel Morgan and his Morgan’s Riflemen are also told. Known Distance Appleseeds often add stories featuring Patrick Ferguson and Timothy Murphy, who were riflemen that played major roles at the Battle of Brandywine, Second Battle of Saratoga, and the Battle of Kings Mountain.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Appleseed

    I recommend ANYONE with a rifle to sign up for a Project Appleseed (RWVA.org) and for those who don’t, to purchase an AR. Bargains abound in AR-15s now. According the CBS News, there are between 5 to 10M ARs in America. You will learn to engage “Redcoat” targets out to 400 yards with open sights.

    An AR at home and the confidence in yourself to use it properly; what could be scarier to TPTB?

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  201. Svigor says:

    “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct, and being horrified by the process, maybe even attacking the process. I think these things don’t tend to happen peacefully.”

    For Coates, even hope can be covered in blood.

    “The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.”

    Seriously, though; Tennessee Coates is handling a double-edged blade.

    There’s no superpower coming to the commies’ rescue this time.

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  202. Bill says:
    @Anon
    Get on the job of destroying the Jew/wasp world domination already.
    Hint : it won't be accomplished by posting comments online 24/7.
    Do let us know when you have toppled them though, you happy normal person you.

    Hint : it won’t be accomplished by posting comments online 24/7.

    Completely wrong. Asch Conformity Experiment.

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  203. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Jack D
    The internet is a lousy medium for sarcasm (at least I hope this was sarcasm). In addition it is read by various deranged persons. So your "get on with it" jest might be taken seriously by some nut job and I suggest not making any more jokes in that vein.

    Don’t worry Jack , ole Chuck is too busy fantasizing about the glorious”Normans” to get off his booty and do some damage to the Wasps and Jews he so despises. His Cutlass is sheathed though , and when the Norman army rises , the name Pewitt will be known to all people, Norman and their inferiors alike.

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    Your sarcasm is noted. But you should have tried to understand what Jack D meant. Really, it isn't difficult.
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  204. Issac says:
    @nebulafox
    The general intellectual quality of the Left has declined immensely over the past 50 years. Say what you will about old-line Marxists, they would have been horrified at the idea of classical Roman and European history being denounced as "racist" and unworthy of study on campuses.

    Though granted, the Right isn't much better here. Can you imagine the likes of Dubya or Trump having a conversation with advisors on an intellectual level like this?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/nixon-and-moynihan-talk-iq-and-race/

    Intellectual decline has been a pretty society wide-thing in the US. (And let me be no hypocrite: I've got a long, long way to go to make up for lost time in learning, being a product of the 2000s American educational system and having wasted my youth. Maybe it's too late, but at least I can become less dumb.)

    “Say what you will about old-line Marxists, they would have been horrified at the idea of classical Roman and European history being denounced as “racist” and unworthy of study on campuses. ”

    Nope. They’ve always been this way. Cultural demolition as means to upset the bourgeoisie has extremely deep roots in Marxism. The reason the old left has such a bucolic image, in the modern context, is that back then they had to deal with a population who was much more comfortable defending their culture and traditions. They were every bit the monsters we observe today, they just lacked, in most cases, the power to bring their nightmare visions to life. And when they did come into such power, the results were very familiar. See also: Early Bolshevism, Wiemar Germany.

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  205. Bill says:
    @Yada yada
    This confirms my belief that blacks still believe in voodoo. The wealth will magically appear without White Europeans to create it.

    It’s worse than that. They never even think about the question of where the wealth comes from.

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  206. Svigor says:

    The sum of Rothschild enterprises (which are in two sets run by competing crews of collateral relatives) have assets about that of the Bank of Hawaii.

    Imagine being confident you know how much wealth the Rothschild family controls.

    Pretending to be, I mean.

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    French leftist economist Thomas Piketty seems to assume that there are vast hidden Rothschild assets somewhere, unbeknownst to the Forbes 400, a list that he hates, although he knows enough not to mention the R word.

    Personally, I'm dubious.

    I use the personal golf course test. In recent years it has become pretty easy to find personal golf courses owned by billionaires via Google Earth, but in SoCal at least they are mostly ones owned by famously rich guys like Larry Ellison, Jerry Perenchio, the late Walter Annenberg, the late Bob Hope, etc. I don't see much evidence from this that test that the Forbes 400 list is missing big chunks of Old Money.

    But it would be interesting if Piketty can out and specified what's bugging him about the Forbes 400 list.

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  207. Bill says:
    @Logan
    I wish this were true.

    It's based on the idea that our enemies aren't really invested in their belief system, it's simply an opportunistic pretense to get them wealth and power.

    They do exactly the same to us in reverse. We don't really believe in the principles we promote, they're simply masks used to hide and perpetuate white supremacy. (Which appears to be true for some of the commenters around here.)

    If the leftists were all simply opportunists, they could simply be bought off and co-opted. The problem is they really do believe in what they claim to believe in.

    We don’t really believe in the principles we promote, they’re simply masks used to hide and perpetuate white supremacy.

    What are you babbling about? Do you seriously want to be ruled by blacks? Do you even know what “white supremacy” means?

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  208. Svigor says:

    A ruling class comprised of Twitter trolls, wannabe YouTube celebrities and Ivy League rejects. There’s a vision to get behind

    There’s this theory that Jews started as rejects and rebels thrown out of Canaan, who, instead of mending their ways, decided to take the whole place for themselves.

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    According to the OT they engaged in all out genocide when they returned to Canaan from Egypt.
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  209. @Svigor

    The sum of Rothschild enterprises (which are in two sets run by competing crews of collateral relatives) have assets about that of the Bank of Hawaii.
     
    Imagine being confident you know how much wealth the Rothschild family controls.

    Pretending to be, I mean.

    French leftist economist Thomas Piketty seems to assume that there are vast hidden Rothschild assets somewhere, unbeknownst to the Forbes 400, a list that he hates, although he knows enough not to mention the R word.

    Personally, I’m dubious.

    I use the personal golf course test. In recent years it has become pretty easy to find personal golf courses owned by billionaires via Google Earth, but in SoCal at least they are mostly ones owned by famously rich guys like Larry Ellison, Jerry Perenchio, the late Walter Annenberg, the late Bob Hope, etc. I don’t see much evidence from this that test that the Forbes 400 list is missing big chunks of Old Money.

    But it would be interesting if Piketty can out and specified what’s bugging him about the Forbes 400 list.

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  210. @Anon
    Difficult to tell who is the bigger dork Weev or Spence.

    Weev went to the federal pen for his views and fled the country in order to keep working towards them.

    Spencer mysteriously has kept his blue checkmark and not been unpersoned on the internet or had his family’s legacy business touched.

    You are an anon calling someone a ‘dork’ on a niche blog who has actually suffered for their views. Perhaps some reflection is in order.

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  211. Bill says:
    @Opinionator
    How so?

    Instead of hiding out in Angola or languishing in prison, they have wealth and power.

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  212. Jack D says:
    @nebulafox
    If Allende had remained in power, there would have eventually been armed conflict. He couldn't keep the radicals in his coalition under control, which in turn alienated the middle class. The economy was in the toilet-nobody in their right mind would make a loan to Chile under Allende. Chile was already noted to have been in near civil war conditions by late 1972, and that was before the Constitutional crisis and gridlock started. Luckily, the USSR decided earlier that year that Allende was more trouble than he was worth, for a variety of reasons (one being that Castro and Allende grossly misjudged where he laid in Moscow's pecking order relative to Nixon during detente), and had quietly stopped funding him or counteracting American and Brazilian intelligence actions in Chile-which turned out to be a smart decision, as he became more useful to TASS in death than he ever was alive. Pinochet essentially became the new Franco pseudo-fascist hate figure for a whole new generation of leftists. Though he really had no one but himself to blame for this, given his own rhetoric, the book burnings and the torture camps.

    But yes. That was the only way the military could have had such broad support for the coup among the bourgeoisie and the CDU. Chile wasn't Argentina-the military was looked upon as guardians of republican tradition. What they failed to realize was that the Security Doctrine of the 1960s had strongly changed the military's previously apolitical nature. Interestingly enough, Pinochet actually put down a previous coup attempt against Allende-the Tanquetazo-a few months earlier. I'm guessing he noticed that Santiago's working class slum dwellers weren't willing to fight for Allende. Castro-a close personal friend of Allende's who regularly vacationed in Chile-also noted this and kept pleading with Allende to start using more violence against his enemies.

    >Countries that are damaged by right wing dictatorships seem to recover much faster and better than countries damaged by the left, many of which never recover at all.

    I have an even scarier example: pause to imagine what Indonesia would look like today had the PKI taken power instead of Suharto in the mid-1960s. Unlike Allende-a bourgeois politician-these guys were open Maoists being armed and aided by Cultural Revolution-era China. Driving around Jakarta in 1964, you could see billboards put up by the PKI of Westerners being gruesomely bayoneted. All this in the context of 600+% inflation, the Konfrontasi, communal tensions (Darul Islam caused major problems in the 1950s), near famine since Sukarno had banned foreign food aid a few years earlier, and a generally impoverished 3rd World backwater still afflicted with the likes of smallpox. Tens of millions of people would have died.

    The Year of Living Dangerously is (by Hollywood standards) a fairly solid attempt at giving the flavor of the events at that time (keeping in mind that most Americans couldn’t find Indonesia on a map and don’t know Sukarno from Suharto and PKI from KFC).

    While Communism is mostly dead and gone from Europe, most of the places conquered by Communism in Asia remain at least nominally Communist and I would guess that Indonesia would still be one of them if the PKI had succeeded.

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    What is your prediction for what will happen next in Venezuela?
     
    My prediction is a rerun of the Panama invasion at some point, perhaps with OAS participation, if the political bloodshed gets a little out of hand, meaning thousands of dead. What's not understood is that - on average - Venezuela is still fairly comfortable at this point, with per capita output only slightly lower than Mexico's, thanks to its oil production and a small population (1/4 Mexico's). As with all socialist governments that choose to eschew the mixed economy, its problem is nutty policies that distort demand and production.
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  213. Kylie says:
    @JohnnyD
    Ironically, whites have probably treated Coates more decently than his fellow blacks...

    “Ironically, whites have probably treated Coates more decently than his fellow blacks…”

    Right. Far better to be pushed off the escalator than thrown under the bus.

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  214. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @guest
    Ah, the great "contemporary with processes" dilemma.

    What man in the dead of night doesn't struggle with the Eternal Questions, like: "Is there a God?" "What is my purpose in life?" And of course, "With which processes shall I be contemporary?"

    And of course, “With which processes shall I be contemporary?”

    Algonquin J. Calhoun couldn’t have rhetoricized it any better than that.

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  215. Kylie says:
    @mobi

    Make better quality comments or send Steve money.
     
    There has to be more to it than that.

    Nope.

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    How much?
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  216. @dearieme
    “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct, and being horrified by the process, ...": how wonderful to be able to make a living writing such drivel.

    That's "wonderful" as in a source of wonder.

    how wonderful to be able to make a living writing such drivel.

    That’s “wonderful” as in a source of wonder.

    I am afraid that you do not understand what Coates has in mind. It is your head that he sees rolling away from Madam Guillotine’s tender embrace. It is mine too, and all of white humanity. Coates is just saying that after we have all been murdered, he’ll be happy to says “oh, well that is too bad, and I am just horrified”

    Coates has signed on to the standard Leftist program – utopia is just a really sincere of program of murder away.

    This is a death match. And you are worried about poor writing?

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  217. Bill says:
    @Forbes
    Bingo. Both Ezra Klein and Tennessee Coates have developed public profiles/personas in the internet era of social media--basically self-promotion media. And no doubt they have garnered incomes vastly higher than would've been the case, say in the '80s, when they deservedly would've been nobodies.

    For them, advertising supported media has been equivalent to a winning lottery ticket--but they don't know it. Work that entails sweat and dirt and grind is outside their experience as keyboard warriors.

    They address wealth as if it's something handed out--and unfairly so--rather than the result of productive effort, impulse control/deferred gratification, and the prioritizing of savings and investment over consumption. If someone else were in charge (them), there'd be better allocation--like handing out candy of Halloween--without ever understanding where the candy came from..

    Work that entails sweat and dirt and grind is outside their experience as keyboard warriors. They address wealth as if it’s something handed out–and unfairly so–rather than the result of productive effort,

    These aren’t the only options. Wall St money is not made by productive effort. However, it is also not handed out.

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  218. @Anon
    Don't worry Jack , ole Chuck is too busy fantasizing about the glorious"Normans" to get off his booty and do some damage to the Wasps and Jews he so despises. His Cutlass is sheathed though , and when the Norman army rises , the name Pewitt will be known to all people, Norman and their inferiors alike.

    Your sarcasm is noted. But you should have tried to understand what Jack D meant. Really, it isn’t difficult.

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    Your sarcasm is noted. But you should have tried to understand what Jack D meant. Really, it isn’t difficult.
     
    Who are you, his mom? Jack D is a blowhard of the first order.
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  219. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Jack D
    The internet is a lousy medium for sarcasm (at least I hope this was sarcasm). In addition it is read by various deranged persons. So your "get on with it" jest might be taken seriously by some nut job and I suggest not making any more jokes in that vein.

    The internet is a lousy medium for sarcasm

    Thanks for this very informative comment. I really appreciate it.

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  220. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon
    Difficult to tell who is the bigger dork Weev or Spence.

    Difficult to tell who is the bigger dork Weev or Spence.

    You haven’t got the guts to what Spencer has done. Sure, he’s made mistakes but he gave up A LOT to do what he’s doing. He gave up a career in mainstream politics. And he’s not writing stuff like most people on net but getting out there in person and getting hit and attacked.

    He’s got true grit. Those who don’t have no right to be too hard on those who do.

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    And to what purpose? What is his plan?

    No one knows what he stands for at this point other than "muh ethnostate" and "ethnic cleansing." It is doubtful he himself even knows.

    What a waste. It looks from here like he is squandering his wealth and "grit." And making others' lives unnecessarily difficult, too.
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  221. I’m glad Steve removed that crude, racist cartoon.

    From being a long-time lurker, I assume he just approves comments en masse as and only goes back and randomly moderates them later if he notices one that is beyond the pale. As others note, it is vital this place be a forum for thinking people who question the dominant narrative and where we can share its contents without comments that illicit kneejerk reactions from newbies.

    Besides, people like “White American” are on the same cretinous intellectual level as Coates, whose crude characterization of whites is not so different from that Shylock grotesque.

    I don’t understand the general dislike of Jews. They’ve been vital contributors to Western culture and especially modern science, including the HBD and behavioral genetics work that may be the Blank Slate left’s Waterloo.

    Most Jewish people are sentimental about immigration for the same reason most of my fellow Korean and Asian Americans are. It’s our recent, if not immediate history unlike “Old Stock” whites. If you approach criticisms of immigration with tact and evidence, then I think you may persuade a lot of people against the neoliberal, open borders position (based on my own conversations) and certainly against the Reign of Critical Race Theory Terror.

    I fully understand the dislike of the specific smug, venomois globalist/multiculturalist media clique that Ezra Klein exemplifies. I’ve definitely noticed that they are disproportionately Jewish, but I utterly reject the bigotry of projecting media misconduct onto other Jews.

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  222. snorlax says:
    @Cornbeef
    This blog is one of the few that maintains a sheen of respectability. It's a beach head and point of access for conversion. I feel comfortable sharing these thinks because pretty much nothing on here would get me fired. I feel comfortable sending these to my boomer Dad.

    One of the most important components of convincing ideological fence sitters to come our way is "Don't scare the normies."

    /end concern troll

    And here I am, working as a software developer in Boston, trying to imagine what (white-collar, assuming that describes you) industries in what parts of the country exist where the typical Steve post (+comments) would not get one fired. (Not to mention I haven’t gathered the courage to send one to my boomer Trump-supporter dad…)

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  223. MEH 0910 says:
    @whorefinder
    His comic books failed. Not only was he a non-comic book writer, and thus clunky at it, he made them all preachy every third page. Apparently he figured the didactic nonsense that got him dozens of readers and effuse praise in The Atlantic would impress people looking for fun adventure stories.
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  224. dr kill says:
    @Kylie
    Nope.

    How much?

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    How much better? Or how much money?
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  225. @Jack D
    The Year of Living Dangerously is (by Hollywood standards) a fairly solid attempt at giving the flavor of the events at that time (keeping in mind that most Americans couldn't find Indonesia on a map and don't know Sukarno from Suharto and PKI from KFC).

    While Communism is mostly dead and gone from Europe, most of the places conquered by Communism in Asia remain at least nominally Communist and I would guess that Indonesia would still be one of them if the PKI had succeeded.

    What is your prediction for what will happen next in Venezuela?

    What is your prediction for what will happen next in Venezuela?

    My prediction is a rerun of the Panama invasion at some point, perhaps with OAS participation, if the political bloodshed gets a little out of hand, meaning thousands of dead. What’s not understood is that – on average – Venezuela is still fairly comfortable at this point, with per capita output only slightly lower than Mexico’s, thanks to its oil production and a small population (1/4 Mexico’s). As with all socialist governments that choose to eschew the mixed economy, its problem is nutty policies that distort demand and production.

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  226. @Anonymous
    Steve, I can't believe you approved that post.

    It’s interesting that the comment voicing disapproval at the post appears to be the only thing still making the post visible. Is an Unz site bug creating its very own version of the Streisand effect?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

    I’ll agree with Jack D’s comment that the cartoon is merely a “poor taste” version of opinions otherwise commonly voiced in more or less roundabout ways on this site. Cartoons are very rude. Let’s just ban caricature and continue having QUALITY discussion, shall we?

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  227. @Charles Pewitt
    Edmund Burke was talking about the imperial contestation for the whole island of Hispaniola. The British Empire, French Empire and Spanish Empire were fighting over possession of the island of Hispaniola. Edmund Burke was arguing about the futility of wasting British blood and treasure on the island. Burke wanted the British Empire to declare victory and leave -- to steal a formulation some wag said about Vietnam.

    Charles, thank you

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  228. @Anon
    Difficult to tell who is the bigger dork Weev or Spence.

    You haven't got the guts to what Spencer has done. Sure, he's made mistakes but he gave up A LOT to do what he's doing. He gave up a career in mainstream politics. And he's not writing stuff like most people on net but getting out there in person and getting hit and attacked.

    He's got true grit. Those who don't have no right to be too hard on those who do.

    And to what purpose? What is his plan?

    No one knows what he stands for at this point other than “muh ethnostate” and “ethnic cleansing.” It is doubtful he himself even knows.

    What a waste. It looks from here like he is squandering his wealth and “grit.” And making others’ lives unnecessarily difficult, too.

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    Does this kvetch also apply to Herzl, or are you posting solely to gin up more good-will for us from the gentiles?
    , @Anon
    And to what purpose? What is his plan?
    No one knows what he stands for at this point other than “muh ethnostate” and “ethnic cleansing.” It is doubtful he himself even knows.


    Before there is an ethno-state, there has to be an ethno-state-of-mind. Kurds are on the verge of having their own official ethno-state because they never surrendered their ethno state of mind.
    Also, Alt Right isn't just about America but all of the Eurosphere. After all, the ancient ethno-nations of Europe are now also threatened with massive colonization. Guess who's the mayor of London. Just how did a homo person of dot take over Ireland? And with black African invasion and promotion of interracism, Europeans are threatened by massive Afro-colonization of European wombs.

    Anyway, Alt Right is right to push for an ethno-state-of-mind since so many whites minds are colonized by PC virus of 'diversity' as religion. So many cucks welcome their own demise as salvation. They've become decadent and insipid like the Eternals who welcome their own demise at the end of ZARDOZ. The mindset must be altered and re-coded before white minds once again realize they must preserve their blood and soil.

    As for 'ethnic cleansing', what Spencer is calling for is counter-ethnic-cleansing. Ethnic Cleansing is happening RIGHT NOW. It's called 'immigration' but it's really colonization and demographic imperialism since the newcomers are NOT like the native white populations. These newcomers will DISPLACE or REPLACE the white populations. Or the races will be mixed to oblivion.

    Why shouldn't Alt Right call for counter-ethnic-cleansing when globalism's agenda is to commit massive Globo-Nakba on all white nations. Hungary and Poland are being defamed for the simple reason that they want to keep their race and culture. William Kristol and David Brooks don't care if whites are reduced to minorities in every state. Some globalists boast about such future. Is that not ethnic cleansing? So, what the hell is wrong with Spencer call for counter-ethnic-cleansing, a reconquista of white lands? Spanish did it. But the current cucked Spanish elites are apologizing for their ancestors having driven the Moors out. What a bunch of lowlife pathetic fools.

    Alt Right is a vanguard movement and, as such, it must remain ahead of the curve. And I would say Spencer is about 80% right and sees what is happening.

    Anyway, the thing is to keep the conviction and organization and wait for the opportunity. No one knows when the crisis will happen that will create the opportunity. But when such moments arrive, a movement has to be ready to pounce. It's like Bolshevism wouldn't have succeeded without WWI and Mao wouldn't have come to power without WWII. But they maintained organizations that were ready to move in for the kill when the opportunity presented itself.

    It's like the Kurds are now seeing an opportunity to move in for the kill finally to have their own official nation.
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  229. Issac says:
    @Opinionator
    And to what purpose? What is his plan?

    No one knows what he stands for at this point other than "muh ethnostate" and "ethnic cleansing." It is doubtful he himself even knows.

    What a waste. It looks from here like he is squandering his wealth and "grit." And making others' lives unnecessarily difficult, too.

    Does this kvetch also apply to Herzl, or are you posting solely to gin up more good-will for us from the gentiles?

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    No, it doesn't apply to Herzl, who had goals and took real actions toward goals and who, perhaps more importantly, was working with different goals and in different circumstances.
    , @Opinionator
    Having said that, the criticism of Herzl by his anti-Zionist contemporaries was spot on, as subsequent events in Germany and Central Europe demonstrated.
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  230. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Opinionator
    And to what purpose? What is his plan?

    No one knows what he stands for at this point other than "muh ethnostate" and "ethnic cleansing." It is doubtful he himself even knows.

    What a waste. It looks from here like he is squandering his wealth and "grit." And making others' lives unnecessarily difficult, too.

    And to what purpose? What is his plan?
    No one knows what he stands for at this point other than “muh ethnostate” and “ethnic cleansing.” It is doubtful he himself even knows.

    Before there is an ethno-state, there has to be an ethno-state-of-mind. Kurds are on the verge of having their own official ethno-state because they never surrendered their ethno state of mind.
    Also, Alt Right isn’t just about America but all of the Eurosphere. After all, the ancient ethno-nations of Europe are now also threatened with massive colonization. Guess who’s the mayor of London. Just how did a homo person of dot take over Ireland? And with black African invasion and promotion of interracism, Europeans are threatened by massive Afro-colonization of European wombs.

    Anyway, Alt Right is right to push for an ethno-state-of-mind since so many whites minds are colonized by PC virus of ‘diversity’ as religion. So many cucks welcome their own demise as salvation. They’ve become decadent and insipid like the Eternals who welcome their own demise at the end of ZARDOZ. The mindset must be altered and re-coded before white minds once again realize they must preserve their blood and soil.

    As for ‘ethnic cleansing’, what Spencer is calling for is counter-ethnic-cleansing. Ethnic Cleansing is happening RIGHT NOW. It’s called ‘immigration’ but it’s really colonization and demographic imperialism since the newcomers are NOT like the native white populations. These newcomers will DISPLACE or REPLACE the white populations. Or the races will be mixed to oblivion.

    Why shouldn’t Alt Right call for counter-ethnic-cleansing when globalism’s agenda is to commit massive Globo-Nakba on all white nations. Hungary and Poland are being defamed for the simple reason that they want to keep their race and culture. William Kristol and David Brooks don’t care if whites are reduced to minorities in every state. Some globalists boast about such future. Is that not ethnic cleansing? So, what the hell is wrong with Spencer call for counter-ethnic-cleansing, a reconquista of white lands? Spanish did it. But the current cucked Spanish elites are apologizing for their ancestors having driven the Moors out. What a bunch of lowlife pathetic fools.

    Alt Right is a vanguard movement and, as such, it must remain ahead of the curve. And I would say Spencer is about 80% right and sees what is happening.

    Anyway, the thing is to keep the conviction and organization and wait for the opportunity. No one knows when the crisis will happen that will create the opportunity. But when such moments arrive, a movement has to be ready to pounce. It’s like Bolshevism wouldn’t have succeeded without WWI and Mao wouldn’t have come to power without WWII. But they maintained organizations that were ready to move in for the kill when the opportunity presented itself.

    It’s like the Kurds are now seeing an opportunity to move in for the kill finally to have their own official nation.

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    Also, Alt Right isn’t just about America but all of the Eurosphere.
     
    How is this different from globalism? Isn't this just re-drawing the borders and including the "nice" people? The logo of Spencer's idea is found in the European Union flag. Spencer is liberal globalist who likes white people. It's just a different flavor of modernity and I don't expect real results because of it.

    Why shouldn’t Alt Right call for counter-ethnic-cleansing when globalism’s agenda is to commit massive Globo-Nakba on all white nations.
     

    Who passes the purity tests? Would I count as white with wee bit of native I've got?

    Hungary and Poland are being defamed for the simple reason that they want to keep their race and culture.
     
    Hungary has statements about the morality of their people in their new constitution. Poland declared Christ the King in 2015 (or very recently, if I got that wrong). Is Spencer prepared to tackle the spiritual and moral part of the "Eurospehere" . Is Spencer prepared to wrestle with why Europe Christianized and even built their measure of time around Christ?

    If a society commits to secular atheist culture , there's no "culture" to preserve. We're a bunch of white people with sad faces, living on video games and porn, who are easily colonized as we are now. Sure, do your "counter-ethnic-cleanings" and when you're done, assuming you have anything worth having, there's still no reason to fight the hordes.

    The West is dying because somehow our spirit died. Until we wrestle with that hard truth, the Spencer vision being offered is nothing but material comfort and waiting until die with white people surrounding us. We need hope in our hearts. Spencer offers globalism with white people. shrug

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  231. @Issac
    Does this kvetch also apply to Herzl, or are you posting solely to gin up more good-will for us from the gentiles?

    No, it doesn’t apply to Herzl, who had goals and took real actions toward goals and who, perhaps more importantly, was working with different goals and in different circumstances.

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  232. King Baeksu says: • Website
    @AnotherDad
    Isn't there a simpler solution for the "white man" problem? -- Separation.

    If Ta-Nehisi and Ezra really believe all this crap about oppression ... let's just separate and be done with it. They'll have their race free and equal world without all the terror folks like me create. It's trivial.

    Yet, somehow you never ever see the Ezra Kleins and Ta-Nehisis Coates, the blacks (excepting the true black nationalist muslims) and especially the Jews actually saying hey we're better without you guys, let's split off/divorce.

    No what these "liberal" establishment blacks and the Jews want is that white gentiles stick around to produce stuff, but not be allowed to be in charge of their nations, their lives, their productive endeavors. Essentially they want white serfdom.

    If blacks were able to form their own ethnostate in North America, does anyone think the problem of “inequality” would be magically solved?

    Of course, not. A cognitive elite would soon rise to the top, and a large underclass would remain at the bottom. And everyone there would likely be less well off, without a massive white taxpayer base to shoulder much of the burden of funding and running society.

    Ethiopia was never formally colonized by the Western powers, and yet it is hardly an egalitarian paradise today. Quite the opposite, in fact. If we can’t blame whitey for this, it must obviously have much more to do with basic human nature.

    Why does anyone take Ta-Nehisi Coates seriously? He doesn’t seem to understand the first thing about human beings. If he really is black America’s greatest living intellectual today, that’s an insult to all the far more intelligent black Americans I’ve known myself.

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    "If we can't blame whitey"

    But we can. We always can. Where there's a will, there's a way.
    , @dcite
    There are highly intelligent, and even fairly objective, blacks that are light years above TNC. People who can speak on behalf of their race and still sound sane and sensible. This man is obsessed because of his inferiority complex. He doesn't want "race as a construct" because that way he can insert himself into all those great achievements and doings he reads about without having to restrict himself to Great Victim. The tragic dilemma is, he's not all that brilliant or special and if there is no race to worry about, and he wouldn't be paid two cents for his tripe.
    "Intellectuals" in general are cherry picked for the narratives they bring to the table that invites them, depending the trends.
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  233. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Jack D
    It looks to me like Steve deleted the original link but not the comments so you can still get back to the Nazi level cartoon that White American gave the link to. If you really want to get rid of this filth then you have to delete the comments too.

    iSteve may be infested with anti-Semites, but they are mostly QUALITY anti-Semites, I will give them that. White American is not a quality anti-Semite judging by his taste in cartoons.

    So ‘OTT’ that one has to suspect a false-flag.

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  234. @BenKenobi
    ...and yet Steve allowed it thru as #1 with image embedded.

    With regards to Teh Genius' dreams of guillotines -- be careful what you wish for.

    White Nationalists: Après le deluge, nous.

    Après le deluge, nous.

    C’est pas mal, Maître Kenobi.

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  235. MEH 0910 says:

    Ta-Nehisi Coates will appear on the PBS television series Finding Your Roots with Henry Louis Gates Jr.

    http://www.pbs.org/weta/finding-your-roots/watch/tv-schedule/

    •Tues., Oct. 24, 2017, 8 p.m. ET: “The Vanguard” with Ta-Nehisi Coates, Ava DuVernay, Janet Mock

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  236. AndrewR says:
    @27 year old
    Make better quality comments or send Steve money.

    Anyone can talk trash behind a screen.

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    Anyone can talk trash behind a screen.
     
    Look who’s talking!
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  237. Thea says:
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Everybody has me curious now about what was awful enough to deny us the privilege to see.

    It's important to see what's in people's hearts, the good, the ugly and the truth.

    Was it at least tastelessly humorous in a South Park way?
    No cow too sacred for making juicy (I'm assuming unkosher) cheeseburgers?

    From what I remember it was closer to a threat than a joke. It was a charicarure with a Jew (big nose& skull cap) and a black man pointing a knife at the viewer. It used the n word. Sorry that’s all I remember.

    Fwiw it was off putting to me and I’m usually comfortable with offensive humor.

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  238. Thea says:
    @Svigor

    A ruling class comprised of Twitter trolls, wannabe YouTube celebrities and Ivy League rejects. There’s a vision to get behind
     
    There's this theory that Jews started as rejects and rebels thrown out of Canaan, who, instead of mending their ways, decided to take the whole place for themselves.

    According to the OT they engaged in all out genocide when they returned to Canaan from Egypt.

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  239. @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Everybody has me curious now about what was awful enough to deny us the privilege to see.

    It's important to see what's in people's hearts, the good, the ugly and the truth.

    Was it at least tastelessly humorous in a South Park way?
    No cow too sacred for making juicy (I'm assuming unkosher) cheeseburgers?

    It was equivalent to the “Dey terk er jobs!” caricature.

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  240. @Issac
    Does this kvetch also apply to Herzl, or are you posting solely to gin up more good-will for us from the gentiles?

    Having said that, the criticism of Herzl by his anti-Zionist contemporaries was spot on, as subsequent events in Germany and Central Europe demonstrated.

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  241. Issac says:
    @Opinionator
    No, it doesn't apply to Herzl, who had goals and took real actions toward goals and who, perhaps more importantly, was working with different goals and in different circumstances.

    I don’t see any difference in the goals. You can draw a great deal of distinction in action, but that is more a function of the support Herzl enjoyed. Circumstances are definitely similar.

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  242. Vinteuil says:
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Everybody has me curious now about what was awful enough to deny us the privilege to see.

    It's important to see what's in people's hearts, the good, the ugly and the truth.

    Was it at least tastelessly humorous in a South Park way?
    No cow too sacred for making juicy (I'm assuming unkosher) cheeseburgers?

    There was nothing humorous about it.

    “N*****s, Jews – Bad News.”

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  243. J1234 says:

    “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct, and being horrified by the process, maybe even attacking the process. I think these things don’t tend to happen peacefully.”

    More evidence that social justice has little to do with justice at all. Actual justice takes it’s cues from the Enlightenment in that it takes great pains to extract emotion from the process and instead puts the emphasis on reason and evidence, while de-emphasizing vindictiveness. Actual justice understands the limits of human nature in attaining ethical results.

    Social justice sees the darker sides of human nature as an ally, injecting emotion, hysteria and vindictiveness into the process rather than extracting it, and jettisons the idea the idea of “justice for all” in process even while claiming it as a foundational value. To explain, actual justice engages in tedious deliberation to make sure justice is administered to everyone involved out of a belief that a result that’s just for some but not for others, isn’t justice at all. Social justice believes in no such thing.

    But the Left is opportunistic. It wants actual justice for Tom Robinson [To Kill a Mockingbird], but social justice for Michael Brown.

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  244. Art Deco says:
    @Broski
    In reality, of course, you have absolutely no idea what their assets are because the controlling entities are privately held.

    The various Rothschild enterprises publish their balance sheets and statement of income.

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  245. Art Deco says:
    @Flip
    I seem to recall that the Chicago boys basically fixed the economy under Pinochet that Allende wrecked.

    Allende did a great deal of damage, but the Southern Cone countries had been suffering since the advent of the Depression (terrible double-digit inflation during the 50s and 60s, for starters). In the 1920s, the Uruguay, Chile, and Argentina were 2d tier affluent countries (like Spain and Israel today) and constitutional by default. By 1973, they were passably middle-income countries with all sorts of vexatious ailments (and so decayed politically that military rule was the best option).

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  246. Art Deco says:
    @Forbes
    I think it's simpler than that, i.e. intellectual decline as society-wide. In a technical sense, yes, because very few people care about being, in the cultural sense, an intellectual.

    As a culture we've told every student, every child, every person they're just as smart and capable and talented and good looking as the next (PC writ large)--and anyone who disagrees is to be ostracized, and driven from polite society. The result is that people "don't know better," as my grandmother would say. They open their mouths and foolishness runs out--they "don't know better" to keep their mouth shut.

    In 1960, about 10% of high school graduates matriculated at 4-year colleges--some of those became intellectuals. Today, nearly every HS graduate with a pulse and not in jail attends some form of higher education. And they know they're smart, capable, talented, and good looking because they've been told that for 13 years. But I doubt there are any more intellectuals than the same fraction of the 10% that went to college in 1960.

    High school enrollments in the United States in fall 1955 were around 8 million. Post-secondary enrollments in fall 1959 were around 3.6 million, or about 45% of the former high school population. That encompasses 2-year and 4-year colleges. About 1/3 of the students enrolled in college at that time were p/t students. There were 392,000 BA degrees conferred during the 1959/60 academic year. There would have been roughly 1.7 million high school seniors during the 1955/56 academic year. The BA degrees awarded would have been about 23% of those enrolled as high school seniors in 1955/56. Roughly 70% of each birth cohort enrolled in their senior year in HS, so the BA would have been awarded to about 16% or so of the relevant cohort. I think the comparable figure today is about 43%.

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  247. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Jack D
    Genius T. Coates is making a big mistake if he thinks he gets to sit around knitting while whitey gets the guillotine. Paddock was deranged but he gives you a pretty clear idea of what just one pissed off white man can accomplish. Imagine Paddox time a million and with the possibility of concerted action and them knitting needles ain't gonna protect the Genius much. The whole SJW game plan seems to be based on the idea of "how far can we push whitey" but I don't think that they have really played out the implications of pushing whitey too far. They are always talking about backlash and chickens coming home to roost, etc. but they have no idea what a white backlash would look like. It would not be pretty.

    Genius T. Coates is making a big mistake if he thinks he gets to sit around knitting while whitey gets the guillotine. Paddock was deranged but he gives you a pretty clear idea of what just one pissed off white man can accomplish. Imagine Paddox time a million and with the possibility of concerted action and them knitting needles ain’t gonna protect the Genius much. The whole SJW game plan seems to be based on the idea of “how far can we push whitey” but I don’t think that they have really played out the implications of pushing whitey too far. They are always talking about backlash and chickens coming home to roost, etc. but they have no idea what a white backlash would look like. It would not be pretty.

    Given that you contend that this forum is “infested with anti-semites” and are otherwise forever disparaging ‘white’ people, we’ll take these pronouncements with a grain or two of salt. The ‘white backlash’ you refer to will never occur–as you well know–unless you mean a few clean-cut guys carrying tiki torches; moreover you have spent tens of thousands of words decrying the very few times in history when white people ever stood up for themselves. So, nice attempt at subterfuge, I suppose.

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  248. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @27 year old
    This is a great post, but it doesn't belong on Steve's site. Don't fuck up our hard won lack of Komment Kontrol with this stuff.

    You seriously thought that was “a great post”?

    And I was just calling you smart yesterday.

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  249. guest says:
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    Everybody has me curious now about what was awful enough to deny us the privilege to see.

    It's important to see what's in people's hearts, the good, the ugly and the truth.

    Was it at least tastelessly humorous in a South Park way?
    No cow too sacred for making juicy (I'm assuming unkosher) cheeseburgers?

    It was just a caricatured Jew and black guy teaming up. Nothing to bat an eye at on “edgy” sites, but overly crude for this environ.

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  250. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @AndrewR
    Anyone can talk trash behind a screen.

    Anyone can talk trash behind a screen.

    Look who’s talking!

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  251. guest says:
    @King Baeksu
    If blacks were able to form their own ethnostate in North America, does anyone think the problem of "inequality" would be magically solved?

    Of course, not. A cognitive elite would soon rise to the top, and a large underclass would remain at the bottom. And everyone there would likely be less well off, without a massive white taxpayer base to shoulder much of the burden of funding and running society.

    Ethiopia was never formally colonized by the Western powers, and yet it is hardly an egalitarian paradise today. Quite the opposite, in fact. If we can't blame whitey for this, it must obviously have much more to do with basic human nature.

    Why does anyone take Ta-Nehisi Coates seriously? He doesn't seem to understand the first thing about human beings. If he really is black America's greatest living intellectual today, that's an insult to all the far more intelligent black Americans I've known myself.

    “If we can’t blame whitey”

    But we can. We always can. Where there’s a will, there’s a way.

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  252. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Charles Erwin Wilson II
    Your sarcasm is noted. But you should have tried to understand what Jack D meant. Really, it isn't difficult.

    Your sarcasm is noted. But you should have tried to understand what Jack D meant. Really, it isn’t difficult.

    Who are you, his mom? Jack D is a blowhard of the first order.

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  253. benjaminl says:
    @Jack D
    Genius T. Coates is making a big mistake if he thinks he gets to sit around knitting while whitey gets the guillotine. Paddock was deranged but he gives you a pretty clear idea of what just one pissed off white man can accomplish. Imagine Paddox time a million and with the possibility of concerted action and them knitting needles ain't gonna protect the Genius much. The whole SJW game plan seems to be based on the idea of "how far can we push whitey" but I don't think that they have really played out the implications of pushing whitey too far. They are always talking about backlash and chickens coming home to roost, etc. but they have no idea what a white backlash would look like. It would not be pretty.

    Long Tweet thread on this theme from around Inauguration Day 2017:

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  254. AM says:
    @Anon
    And to what purpose? What is his plan?
    No one knows what he stands for at this point other than “muh ethnostate” and “ethnic cleansing.” It is doubtful he himself even knows.


    Before there is an ethno-state, there has to be an ethno-state-of-mind. Kurds are on the verge of having their own official ethno-state because they never surrendered their ethno state of mind.
    Also, Alt Right isn't just about America but all of the Eurosphere. After all, the ancient ethno-nations of Europe are now also threatened with massive colonization. Guess who's the mayor of London. Just how did a homo person of dot take over Ireland? And with black African invasion and promotion of interracism, Europeans are threatened by massive Afro-colonization of European wombs.

    Anyway, Alt Right is right to push for an ethno-state-of-mind since so many whites minds are colonized by PC virus of 'diversity' as religion. So many cucks welcome their own demise as salvation. They've become decadent and insipid like the Eternals who welcome their own demise at the end of ZARDOZ. The mindset must be altered and re-coded before white minds once again realize they must preserve their blood and soil.

    As for 'ethnic cleansing', what Spencer is calling for is counter-ethnic-cleansing. Ethnic Cleansing is happening RIGHT NOW. It's called 'immigration' but it's really colonization and demographic imperialism since the newcomers are NOT like the native white populations. These newcomers will DISPLACE or REPLACE the white populations. Or the races will be mixed to oblivion.

    Why shouldn't Alt Right call for counter-ethnic-cleansing when globalism's agenda is to commit massive Globo-Nakba on all white nations. Hungary and Poland are being defamed for the simple reason that they want to keep their race and culture. William Kristol and David Brooks don't care if whites are reduced to minorities in every state. Some globalists boast about such future. Is that not ethnic cleansing? So, what the hell is wrong with Spencer call for counter-ethnic-cleansing, a reconquista of white lands? Spanish did it. But the current cucked Spanish elites are apologizing for their ancestors having driven the Moors out. What a bunch of lowlife pathetic fools.

    Alt Right is a vanguard movement and, as such, it must remain ahead of the curve. And I would say Spencer is about 80% right and sees what is happening.

    Anyway, the thing is to keep the conviction and organization and wait for the opportunity. No one knows when the crisis will happen that will create the opportunity. But when such moments arrive, a movement has to be ready to pounce. It's like Bolshevism wouldn't have succeeded without WWI and Mao wouldn't have come to power without WWII. But they maintained organizations that were ready to move in for the kill when the opportunity presented itself.

    It's like the Kurds are now seeing an opportunity to move in for the kill finally to have their own official nation.

    Also, Alt Right isn’t just about America but all of the Eurosphere.

    How is this different from globalism? Isn’t this just re-drawing the borders and including the “nice” people? The logo of Spencer’s idea is found in the European Union flag. Spencer is liberal globalist who likes white people. It’s just a different flavor of modernity and I don’t expect real results because of it.

    Why shouldn’t Alt Right call for counter-ethnic-cleansing when globalism’s agenda is to commit massive Globo-Nakba on all white nations.

    Who passes the purity tests? Would I count as white with wee bit of native I’ve got?

    Hungary and Poland are being defamed for the simple reason that they want to keep their race and culture.

    Hungary has statements about the morality of their people in their new constitution. Poland declared Christ the King in 2015 (or very recently, if I got that wrong). Is Spencer prepared to tackle the spiritual and moral part of the “Eurospehere” . Is Spencer prepared to wrestle with why Europe Christianized and even built their measure of time around Christ?

    If a society commits to secular atheist culture , there’s no “culture” to preserve. We’re a bunch of white people with sad faces, living on video games and porn, who are easily colonized as we are now. Sure, do your “counter-ethnic-cleanings” and when you’re done, assuming you have anything worth having, there’s still no reason to fight the hordes.

    The West is dying because somehow our spirit died. Until we wrestle with that hard truth, the Spencer vision being offered is nothing but material comfort and waiting until die with white people surrounding us. We need hope in our hearts. Spencer offers globalism with white people. shrug

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  255. @Forbes
    I think it's simpler than that, i.e. intellectual decline as society-wide. In a technical sense, yes, because very few people care about being, in the cultural sense, an intellectual.

    As a culture we've told every student, every child, every person they're just as smart and capable and talented and good looking as the next (PC writ large)--and anyone who disagrees is to be ostracized, and driven from polite society. The result is that people "don't know better," as my grandmother would say. They open their mouths and foolishness runs out--they "don't know better" to keep their mouth shut.

    In 1960, about 10% of high school graduates matriculated at 4-year colleges--some of those became intellectuals. Today, nearly every HS graduate with a pulse and not in jail attends some form of higher education. And they know they're smart, capable, talented, and good looking because they've been told that for 13 years. But I doubt there are any more intellectuals than the same fraction of the 10% that went to college in 1960.

    Amen, and I can recall an idiotic speach given by MO in my once glorious hometown, now destroyed by fifty years of Democrat rule, Detroit, in which she actually stated that “all” black kids should attend university.
    The concept of “all” kids, black or white attending university is rediculous beyond words.
    It is simply hopeless and futile to think that these stupid leftist nut-cases will ever come to their senses, when such vacuous BSers and charlatans as Coates are considered to be “Intellectual”: they wouldn’t recognize an “Intellectual” if he slapped them in their insolent dumbass faces, and now we are to be assaulted and
    stalked by his nonsensical jabberwocky til the cows come home.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained U S Army Vet and pro jazz artist.

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    Well, what does the right preach? Iraq War, unlimited defense spending, massive tax cuts, subsidies for big business, bailouts for Wall Street. The whole right-wing agenda is anti-worker, anti-citizen. The left, for all its flaws, at least sometimes seems interested in helping normal people. The right is obsessed with giving the nation's wealth to oligarchs, no questions asked.

    Conservative fanatics were okay with giving Bush a blank check ($5 trillion according to current estimates) to invade Iraq and get rid of "WMDS," but they go nuts anytime anyone talks about increasing spending on education and healthcare.

    Compared to what the right is selling, something like universal college attendance sounds pretty sane. At a minimum, at least it'd create some more jobs and help people acquire more job skills. Which is more than I can say for the $5 trillion Iraq War.
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  256. @ThreeCranes
    "maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct"

    To "hypostatize" is to "treat or represent (something abstract) as a concrete reality"

    Would this be an example of antihypostatizing?

    And just how does one go about abolishing a construct?

    I think he has found a fancy way of saying "kill white people" while getting well paid for doing so.

    Geez, and they accuse the Alt Right of dogwhistling.

    He’s not that good, actually. Tarantino has made way more money than TNC by explicitly sending that message via his movies. Even Jordan Peele has been hugely more successful with Get Out, while being more enlightening, too. After all, who knew that if white is evil and whites are more likely to tolerate milk, then milk=evil?

    Hell, I’ve even started drinking milk after seeing that, even though I’m lactose-intolerant.

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  257. BB753 says:
    @Adam Wasserman
    I reported Steve to the ADL for that offensive cartoon.

    How brave of you! Are you a professional snitch? Your family must be proud of you.

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  258. @27 year old
    On topic- these people say they want a revolution, but really what they want is a reign of terror, after which everything is pretty much the same except their enemies are dead. They don't want to overthrow materialism-consumerism-capitalism, they just want to kill us in hope that they'll be able to buy more and better stuff.

    Liberalism is not a philosophy or a political program. It does not exist to advance an idea or establish a new order. It is simply a means of attack.

    James Burnham pointed this out in the 1940s. Oswald Spengler said it in 1917. And I suppose the recognition has been present in some form or another for as long as there have been liberals (De Meistre comes to mind).

    That liberals are simply and by definition enemies of civilization is something that should be acknowledged and acted upon accordingly, but we are prevented from doing so by the fact that almost all men have inside them the seeds of the same sin, i.e. a pulsating mass of unsublimated covetous and murderous desires that would cause them to join the revolution if it broke out.

    Look around at your fellow human beings and try to bear in mind that the majority of them are either already corrupt or corruptible. They would become mercenaries, pirates, and rebellious hordes if given half a chance.

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    Being a mercenary or a pirate would be cool, but being part of a rebellious horde sounds kind of inconsequential.
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  259. dcite says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    Charles, I am missing the point about the "dreaded island." The Dominican Republic portion of the shared island seems to do quite nicely.

    The Dominican Republic encouraged European, including Jewish, immigration during the reign of Trujillo, 1930s to early 60s. Also allowed Lebanaese in. Although he was part Haitian himself, Trujillo actively kept Haitians from coming over the border, even going so far as to murder them if they tried. Dominicans are a mixture of black, white, and native, but Trujillo was of the conviction that the country would sink if the balance tipped towards more black. I don’t see much evidence anywhere in the world that he was wrong.

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  260. dcite says:
    @King Baeksu
    If blacks were able to form their own ethnostate in North America, does anyone think the problem of "inequality" would be magically solved?

    Of course, not. A cognitive elite would soon rise to the top, and a large underclass would remain at the bottom. And everyone there would likely be less well off, without a massive white taxpayer base to shoulder much of the burden of funding and running society.

    Ethiopia was never formally colonized by the Western powers, and yet it is hardly an egalitarian paradise today. Quite the opposite, in fact. If we can't blame whitey for this, it must obviously have much more to do with basic human nature.

    Why does anyone take Ta-Nehisi Coates seriously? He doesn't seem to understand the first thing about human beings. If he really is black America's greatest living intellectual today, that's an insult to all the far more intelligent black Americans I've known myself.

    There are highly intelligent, and even fairly objective, blacks that are light years above TNC. People who can speak on behalf of their race and still sound sane and sensible. This man is obsessed because of his inferiority complex. He doesn’t want “race as a construct” because that way he can insert himself into all those great achievements and doings he reads about without having to restrict himself to Great Victim. The tragic dilemma is, he’s not all that brilliant or special and if there is no race to worry about, and he wouldn’t be paid two cents for his tripe.
    “Intellectuals” in general are cherry picked for the narratives they bring to the table that invites them, depending the trends.

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  261. TheJester says:
    @guest
    "For Coates, even hope can be covered in blood"

    What possesses a human being to write such a sentence?

    (H)is thoughts flicker to the French Revolution, to the executions and the terror. “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct, and being horrified by the process, maybe even attacking the process. I think these things don’t tend to happen peacefully.”

    For Coates, even hope can be covered in blood.

    The import is obvious … if one is familiar with the dystopic French Revolution and its blood-letting to the Right, to the Left, and In Between the political extremes to only end up where it started.

    The Greeks had a word for this: catharsis. Ta-Nehisi Coates evidently wants a catharsis in blood… something similar to what happened in Pol Pot’s Cambodia. A bloody tantrum. Afterwards, everyone feels better.

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  262. @Intelligent Dasein
    Liberalism is not a philosophy or a political program. It does not exist to advance an idea or establish a new order. It is simply a means of attack.

    James Burnham pointed this out in the 1940s. Oswald Spengler said it in 1917. And I suppose the recognition has been present in some form or another for as long as there have been liberals (De Meistre comes to mind).

    That liberals are simply and by definition enemies of civilization is something that should be acknowledged and acted upon accordingly, but we are prevented from doing so by the fact that almost all men have inside them the seeds of the same sin, i.e. a pulsating mass of unsublimated covetous and murderous desires that would cause them to join the revolution if it broke out.

    Look around at your fellow human beings and try to bear in mind that the majority of them are either already corrupt or corruptible. They would become mercenaries, pirates, and rebellious hordes if given half a chance.

    Being a mercenary or a pirate would be cool, but being part of a rebellious horde sounds kind of inconsequential.

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  263. Kylie says:
    @dr kill
    How much?

    How much better? Or how much money?

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  264. @Authenticjazzman
    Amen, and I can recall an idiotic speach given by MO in my once glorious hometown, now destroyed by fifty years of Democrat rule, Detroit, in which she actually stated that "all" black kids should attend university.
    The concept of "all" kids, black or white attending university is rediculous beyond words.
    It is simply hopeless and futile to think that these stupid leftist nut-cases will ever come to their senses, when such vacuous BSers and charlatans as Coates are considered to be "Intellectual": they wouldn't recognize an "Intellectual" if he slapped them in their insolent dumbass faces, and now we are to be assaulted and
    stalked by his nonsensical jabberwocky til the cows come home.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained U S Army Vet and pro jazz artist.

    Well, what does the right preach? Iraq War, unlimited defense spending, massive tax cuts, subsidies for big business, bailouts for Wall Street. The whole right-wing agenda is anti-worker, anti-citizen. The left, for all its flaws, at least sometimes seems interested in helping normal people. The right is obsessed with giving the nation’s wealth to oligarchs, no questions asked.

    Conservative fanatics were okay with giving Bush a blank check ($5 trillion according to current estimates) to invade Iraq and get rid of “WMDS,” but they go nuts anytime anyone talks about increasing spending on education and healthcare.

    Compared to what the right is selling, something like universal college attendance sounds pretty sane. At a minimum, at least it’d create some more jobs and help people acquire more job skills. Which is more than I can say for the $5 trillion Iraq War.

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    " Something like universal college attendance sounds pretty sane"

    You do not comprehend the point that it is rediculous to assume EVERY child, regardless of abilities, or lack thereof, should attend college for the sake of "equality", such as advocated by your leftist edumacators, and politicians.

    I am really about to give up discussing issues with you leftists as you simply are not endowed with the intelligence necessary to grasp the connections and fine points thereof, and your complete SOP consists of trying to argue away the obvious.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.
    , @BB753
    You're crazy! The US military is basically a jobs program employing nearly 2 million Americans. Not to mention the contractors and the military industrial complex. Those produce billions in revenue.. at the same time that the Federal Government runs into greater debt.
    Hence the current "invade the world, invite the world, in hock to the world" policy.
    The moment the rest of the world ceases to use the dollar for international commerce and as a reserve currency, America would literally go bankrupt overnight.
    It so happens that the dollar is kept alive at gun point, and has been so for the last 40 years.
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  265. @Alfa158
    I'm old enough to have been in college in the 60's so I have watched the intellectual decline of the Left. My theory is that it was caused by the increasing dissonance between their theories and reality. 50 years of implementing their program around most of the world has demonstrated the fallacies in their ideology, i.e. the collapse of Communism in China and it's replacement with a National Socialist oligarchy, the impoverished conditions of the remaining Communist nations, the failure of half a century of closing the racial gap to have any results, etc. etc.
    The problem is that their belief system has totally supplanted all others in education and culture plus they still find the abstract ideas attractive emotionally and lucrative personally. As a result they have had to self-lobotomize themselves in order to be able to continue to believe their dogma. As Dennis Prager has commented, some ideas are so stupid that you have to have gone to graduate school to believe them, i.e. they need the extra immersion in the conditioning to believe them. Even the few remaining bright Leftists who are capable of rigorous and logical thought in a profession such as the Law, have trained themselves to practice CrimeStop and turn off their faculties when it comes to sociology, economics, biology and politics in order to avoid thinking bad things.

    What about the Iraq War?

    I can’t think of any modern leftist idea that was that stupid.

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    What about the Iraq War?

    I can’t think of any modern leftist idea that was that stupid.
     
    You do realize that most of the Democrats in Congress voted for it, right, sonny? Like John Kerry and Hillary Clinton?

    and the neocon cucks who ran the Repubs then aren't Trumpers, right? They're the #NeverTrumpers.

    The Corporate Left and Corporate Right thought it was a good idea. The non-corporate Left and non-corporate right were against it. In other words, the globalists had the idea, not "the right" or "the left."

    But nice try with the smear, sonny.
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  266. @JohnnyWalker123
    Well, what does the right preach? Iraq War, unlimited defense spending, massive tax cuts, subsidies for big business, bailouts for Wall Street. The whole right-wing agenda is anti-worker, anti-citizen. The left, for all its flaws, at least sometimes seems interested in helping normal people. The right is obsessed with giving the nation's wealth to oligarchs, no questions asked.

    Conservative fanatics were okay with giving Bush a blank check ($5 trillion according to current estimates) to invade Iraq and get rid of "WMDS," but they go nuts anytime anyone talks about increasing spending on education and healthcare.

    Compared to what the right is selling, something like universal college attendance sounds pretty sane. At a minimum, at least it'd create some more jobs and help people acquire more job skills. Which is more than I can say for the $5 trillion Iraq War.

    ” Something like universal college attendance sounds pretty sane”

    You do not comprehend the point that it is rediculous to assume EVERY child, regardless of abilities, or lack thereof, should attend college for the sake of “equality”, such as advocated by your leftist edumacators, and politicians.

    I am really about to give up discussing issues with you leftists as you simply are not endowed with the intelligence necessary to grasp the connections and fine points thereof, and your complete SOP consists of trying to argue away the obvious.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz musician.

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  267. @dearieme
    “It’s very easy for me to see myself being contemporary with processes that might make for an equal world, more equality, and maybe the complete abolition of race as a construct, and being horrified by the process, ...": how wonderful to be able to make a living writing such drivel.

    That's "wonderful" as in a source of wonder.

    As they say in another place; “DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED”, but I don’t think Coates would be too happy with their particular ambitions.
    It always puzzles me when this sort of bourgie milksop makes these poorly-veiled threats. Where do they think their personal army is coming from? And how long would it last in the field?

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    It always puzzles me when this sort of bourgie milksop makes these poorly-veiled threats. Where do they think their personal army is coming from? And how long would it last in the field?
     
    The Left's beliefs about violence and race war and class warfare are prime examples of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. It's also why the people who are most fervently communist are sheltered middle and upper class LARPing as proles. Everyone's got a perfect battle plan until they actually get hit in the face a few times, and then reality sets in.

    Tennessee also has a couple of other things going on. For one, he is a huge disappointment to his father, who wanted Tennessee to be a militant Black Panther gang leader type but instead Tennessee was a soft, bookish wanna-be academic who got beaten up by the tougher black kids and now is (((certain people's))) little pet. As a result, Tennessee is constantly trying to counter that disappointment by talking tough.

    Second, ((certain people)) like Angry Black Men talking violence against whitey. This goes back to Radical Chic and Malcolm X. ((Certain people)) like the idea of Angry Blacks being a buffer between them and white mobs that apparently are running amok and always about to enact a second Shoah. So Tennessee is just playing to his audience and being patted on the head.

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  268. BB753 says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Well, what does the right preach? Iraq War, unlimited defense spending, massive tax cuts, subsidies for big business, bailouts for Wall Street. The whole right-wing agenda is anti-worker, anti-citizen. The left, for all its flaws, at least sometimes seems interested in helping normal people. The right is obsessed with giving the nation's wealth to oligarchs, no questions asked.

    Conservative fanatics were okay with giving Bush a blank check ($5 trillion according to current estimates) to invade Iraq and get rid of "WMDS," but they go nuts anytime anyone talks about increasing spending on education and healthcare.

    Compared to what the right is selling, something like universal college attendance sounds pretty sane. At a minimum, at least it'd create some more jobs and help people acquire more job skills. Which is more than I can say for the $5 trillion Iraq War.

    You’re crazy! The US military is basically a jobs program employing nearly 2 million Americans. Not to mention the contractors and the military industrial complex. Those produce billions in revenue.. at the same time that the Federal Government runs into greater debt.
    Hence the current “invade the world, invite the world, in hock to the world” policy.
    The moment the rest of the world ceases to use the dollar for international commerce and as a reserve currency, America would literally go bankrupt overnight.
    It so happens that the dollar is kept alive at gun point, and has been so for the last 40 years.

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  269. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Coates is just Malcolm X without the religion or even the pretense of self-reliance

    Agree. But, Malcolm X was a complicated man, and intelligent.

    Ta-Nehisi Coates is stupid.

    He's so damn stupid it's embarrasing.

    Malcolm X wasn’t that intelligent. He was a common street hustler who took his hustler to another level because of black low-IQ and because he had some commie money flowing in to back him. His Autobiography is littered with a lot of examples of his less-than-stellar IQ—e.g. he named his daughter “Attila” because he thought Attila the Hun sacked Rome, when Attila never sacked Rome nor was he a girl.

    And, as even Alex Haley admitted (he was the stenographer for Malcolm’s autobiography),that his shows of strength were hustles—e.g Malcolm palmed a bullet out of the gun when he pretended to play Russian Roulette in order to intimidate others.

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    Malcolm X believed that King James wrote Shakespeare's plays. After all, the King James Bible is great, so it's only logical that the guy who wrote the King James Bible, King James, also wrote Shakespeare's plays.
    , @Art Deco
    Haley was the journeyman writer, not Malcolm Little. The Autobiography of Malcolm X was not a court transcript. Haley wrote the book.

    Your example indicates M. Little was uneducated, not that he was unintelligent per se.

    , @Art Deco
    His daughter's name actually is Attallah. There are six daughters. I'm not sure any of them have a normal family and work life. A couple of them have been busted (one most recently on animal cruelty charges). The one who seems the most normal is the 3d daughter, who works for one of the municipal governments in Westchester County, N.Y. I think a couple of them are able to milk grant-money and lecture circuit pipelines. Not an edifying crew. (Three of ML King's 4 children have also been embarrassments, just less spectacularly so. Interestingly, Atallah Shabazz and Yolanda King were supposedly bosom pals. Common failures in living, I'd guess).
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  270. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Expletive Deleted
    As they say in another place; "DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED", but I don't think Coates would be too happy with their particular ambitions.
    It always puzzles me when this sort of bourgie milksop makes these poorly-veiled threats. Where do they think their personal army is coming from? And how long would it last in the field?

    It always puzzles me when this sort of bourgie milksop makes these poorly-veiled threats. Where do they think their personal army is coming from? And how long would it last in the field?

    The Left’s beliefs about violence and race war and class warfare are prime examples of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. It’s also why the people who are most fervently communist are sheltered middle and upper class LARPing as proles. Everyone’s got a perfect battle plan until they actually get hit in the face a few times, and then reality sets in.

    Tennessee also has a couple of other things going on. For one, he is a huge disappointment to his father, who wanted Tennessee to be a militant Black Panther gang leader type but instead Tennessee was a soft, bookish wanna-be academic who got beaten up by the tougher black kids and now is (((certain people’s))) little pet. As a result, Tennessee is constantly trying to counter that disappointment by talking tough.

    Second, ((certain people)) like Angry Black Men talking violence against whitey. This goes back to Radical Chic and Malcolm X. ((Certain people)) like the idea of Angry Blacks being a buffer between them and white mobs that apparently are running amok and always about to enact a second Shoah. So Tennessee is just playing to his audience and being patted on the head.

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  271. @whorefinder
    Malcolm X wasn't that intelligent. He was a common street hustler who took his hustler to another level because of black low-IQ and because he had some commie money flowing in to back him. His Autobiography is littered with a lot of examples of his less-than-stellar IQ---e.g. he named his daughter "Attila" because he thought Attila the Hun sacked Rome, when Attila never sacked Rome nor was he a girl.

    And, as even Alex Haley admitted (he was the stenographer for Malcolm's autobiography),that his shows of strength were hustles---e.g Malcolm palmed a bullet out of the gun when he pretended to play Russian Roulette in order to intimidate others.

    Malcolm X believed that King James wrote Shakespeare’s plays. After all, the King James Bible is great, so it’s only logical that the guy who wrote the King James Bible, King James, also wrote Shakespeare’s plays.

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    Malcolm became a liability to his handlers when he got tired of hustling and actually got serious about the religion he professed to follow. His pilgrimage to Mecca--which got him out of his handlers' direct control---saw him meet non-black Muslims who corrected many of the errors he'd been taught about Islam, and in a way Malcolm accepted. Until then, his less-than-stellar mind had just accepted whatever contradictory nonsense the Black Muslims told him about Islam, since it sounded good to him.

    Once back in the U.S., he started contradicting the black Muslim leadership's nonsense---bought and paid for by the commies---and got himself gunned down for being trouble. Malcolm, like many hustlers, realized too late (or perhaps never realized) that he himself was also a mark.

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  272. whorefinder says: • Website
    @JohnnyWalker123
    What about the Iraq War?

    I can't think of any modern leftist idea that was that stupid.

    What about the Iraq War?

    I can’t think of any modern leftist idea that was that stupid.

    You do realize that most of the Democrats in Congress voted for it, right, sonny? Like John Kerry and Hillary Clinton?

    and the neocon cucks who ran the Repubs then aren’t Trumpers, right? They’re the #NeverTrumpers.

    The Corporate Left and Corporate Right thought it was a good idea. The non-corporate Left and non-corporate right were against it. In other words, the globalists had the idea, not “the right” or “the left.”

    But nice try with the smear, sonny.

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  273. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    Malcolm X believed that King James wrote Shakespeare's plays. After all, the King James Bible is great, so it's only logical that the guy who wrote the King James Bible, King James, also wrote Shakespeare's plays.

    Malcolm became a liability to his handlers when he got tired of hustling and actually got serious about the religion he professed to follow. His pilgrimage to Mecca–which got him out of his handlers’ direct control—saw him meet non-black Muslims who corrected many of the errors he’d been taught about Islam, and in a way Malcolm accepted. Until then, his less-than-stellar mind had just accepted whatever contradictory nonsense the Black Muslims told him about Islam, since it sounded good to him.

    Once back in the U.S., he started contradicting the black Muslim leadership’s nonsense—bought and paid for by the commies—and got himself gunned down for being trouble. Malcolm, like many hustlers, realized too late (or perhaps never realized) that he himself was also a mark.

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  274. Oh the irony of it all : today being the birthday of the great Oscar Wilde, and here we are contemplating, or seaching for the (non-existant) literary value of the writings of this AA/AA nit-wit.

    Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained U S Army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

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    Correction : AA, PC nit-wit

    AJM
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  275. @Authenticjazzman
    Oh the irony of it all : today being the birthday of the great Oscar Wilde, and here we are contemplating, or seaching for the (non-existant) literary value of the writings of this AA/AA nit-wit.

    Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained U S Army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

    Correction : AA, PC nit-wit

    AJM

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  276. Art Deco says:
    @whorefinder
    Malcolm X wasn't that intelligent. He was a common street hustler who took his hustler to another level because of black low-IQ and because he had some commie money flowing in to back him. His Autobiography is littered with a lot of examples of his less-than-stellar IQ---e.g. he named his daughter "Attila" because he thought Attila the Hun sacked Rome, when Attila never sacked Rome nor was he a girl.

    And, as even Alex Haley admitted (he was the stenographer for Malcolm's autobiography),that his shows of strength were hustles---e.g Malcolm palmed a bullet out of the gun when he pretended to play Russian Roulette in order to intimidate others.

    Haley was the journeyman writer, not Malcolm Little. The Autobiography of Malcolm X was not a court transcript. Haley wrote the book.

    Your example indicates M. Little was uneducated, not that he was unintelligent per se.

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    lol. SJW trolls gonna troll.

    Haley was the journeyman writer, not Malcolm Little. The Autobiography of Malcolm X was not a court transcript. Haley wrote the book.
     
    Haley took down what Malcolm dictated, then changed some syntax and grammar and the like, and excluded somethings he thought were bad (e.g. much of Malcolm's criticism of the Jews). It was an autobiography with a ghostwriter/editor. Trying to cover up for Malcolm X's unimpressive IQ won't work here, troll.

    Your example indicates M. Little was uneducated, not that he was unintelligent per se.
     
    No, it indicates unintelligent; he literally did not look up the facts about Attila, but instead, because of what he thought he heard once, named his daughter that---and of course he was trying to imply that his family would sack the U.S., the new Rome. He basically believed an urban legend (heh) without checking and went about setting up his family tree based on it. Pretty unintelligent. (Hucksters are often gullible marks themselves).

    And Malcolm X makes a big deal in the work about his self-education, about how he took books out of the prison library and hand-wrote out dictionary passages to learn new words. So the passage is doubly danging---it not only shows him to be unintelligent, it shows that the nonsense he sold about his self-improvement was a lie, since he wasn't self educating if he was repeating nonsensical rumors as fact.

    His daughter’s name actually is Attallah.

     

    When caught losing, SJWs always try to quibble about minor things instead of admitting defeat.

    There are six daughters. I’m not sure any of them have a normal family and work life. A couple of them have been busted (one most recently on animal cruelty charges). The one who seems the most normal is the 3d daughter, who works for one of the municipal governments in Westchester County, N.Y. I think a couple of them are able to milk grant-money and lecture circuit pipelines. Not an edifying crew. (Three of ML King’s 4 children have also been embarrassments, just less spectacularly so. Interestingly, Atallah Shabazz and Yolanda King were supposedly bosom pals. Common failures in living, I’d guess).
     

    Or change the subject. No one cares about Malcom X's kids.

    Face it boy: Malcolm wasn't that bright, and you've just failed.

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  277. Art Deco says:
    @whorefinder
    Malcolm X wasn't that intelligent. He was a common street hustler who took his hustler to another level because of black low-IQ and because he had some commie money flowing in to back him. His Autobiography is littered with a lot of examples of his less-than-stellar IQ---e.g. he named his daughter "Attila" because he thought Attila the Hun sacked Rome, when Attila never sacked Rome nor was he a girl.

    And, as even Alex Haley admitted (he was the stenographer for Malcolm's autobiography),that his shows of strength were hustles---e.g Malcolm palmed a bullet out of the gun when he pretended to play Russian Roulette in order to intimidate others.

    His daughter’s name actually is Attallah. There are six daughters. I’m not sure any of them have a normal family and work life. A couple of them have been busted (one most recently on animal cruelty charges). The one who seems the most normal is the 3d daughter, who works for one of the municipal governments in Westchester County, N.Y. I think a couple of them are able to milk grant-money and lecture circuit pipelines. Not an edifying crew. (Three of ML King’s 4 children have also been embarrassments, just less spectacularly so. Interestingly, Atallah Shabazz and Yolanda King were supposedly bosom pals. Common failures in living, I’d guess).

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    Thanks for the interesting factual info at the bottom of this thread.

    Because I clearly have time to waste, I couldn't resist checking on this "Attila/Attallah" business, and it seems you are both right. Also, the second daughter's name, Qubilah, apparently refers to Kublai Khan.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X#Marriage_and_family

    Here's the relevant quote from the Autobiography of Malcolm X, Chapter 13:


    Attallah, our oldest daughter, was born in November 1958. She's named for Attilah the Hun (he sacked Rome). Shortly after Attallah came, we moved to our present seven-room house in an all-black section of Queens, Long Island. Another girl, Qubilah (named after Qubilah Khan) was born on Christmas Day of 1960. Then, Ilyasah ("Ilyas" is Arabic for "Elijah") was born in July 1962.
     
    The Attila connection stated in the biography has since been half-denied by Attallah, but she does acknowledge the connection:

    People have to understand the autobiography was written at a time when indeed African Americans were likening themselves to warriors to underscore our revolutionary fervor. And Attallah was close to Attila the Hun, the warrior. But I'm named Attallah, which in Arabic means 'Gift of God.' I've never been Attila.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attallah_Shabazz#cite_note-6
     
    I think it's kind of a cool name, all in all.

    As for Attila, while he did not reach Rome, he did thoroughly sack northern Italy and a lot of other European sites, and he represents in many minds the archetype of the barbarian invader who brought Rome down. So close enough :-)

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  278. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Art Deco
    Haley was the journeyman writer, not Malcolm Little. The Autobiography of Malcolm X was not a court transcript. Haley wrote the book.

    Your example indicates M. Little was uneducated, not that he was unintelligent per se.

    lol. SJW trolls gonna troll.

    Haley was the journeyman writer, not Malcolm Little. The Autobiography of Malcolm X was not a court transcript. Haley wrote the book.

    Haley took down what Malcolm dictated, then changed some syntax and grammar and the like, and excluded somethings he thought were bad (e.g. much of Malcolm’s criticism of the Jews). It was an autobiography with a ghostwriter/editor. Trying to cover up for Malcolm X’s unimpressive IQ won’t work here, troll.

    Your example indicates M. Little was uneducated, not that he was unintelligent per se.

    No, it indicates unintelligent; he literally did not look up the facts about Attila, but instead, because of what he thought he heard once, named his daughter that—and of course he was trying to imply that his family would sack the U.S., the new Rome. He basically believed an urban legend (heh) without checking and went about setting up his family tree based on it. Pretty unintelligent. (Hucksters are often gullible marks themselves).

    And Malcolm X makes a big deal in the work about his self-education, about how he took books out of the prison library and hand-wrote out dictionary passages to learn new words. So the passage is doubly danging—it not only shows him to be unintelligent, it shows that the nonsense he sold about his self-improvement was a lie, since he wasn’t self educating if he was repeating nonsensical rumors as fact.

    His daughter’s name actually is Attallah.

    When caught losing, SJWs always try to quibble about minor things instead of admitting defeat.

    There are six daughters. I’m not sure any of them have a normal family and work life. A couple of them have been busted (one most recently on animal cruelty charges). The one who seems the most normal is the 3d daughter, who works for one of the municipal governments in Westchester County, N.Y. I think a couple of them are able to milk grant-money and lecture circuit pipelines. Not an edifying crew. (Three of ML King’s 4 children have also been embarrassments, just less spectacularly so. Interestingly, Atallah Shabazz and Yolanda King were supposedly bosom pals. Common failures in living, I’d guess).

    Or change the subject. No one cares about Malcom X’s kids.

    Face it boy: Malcolm wasn’t that bright, and you’ve just failed.

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  279. if Atlantic magazine’s darling Ta-Nehisi Coates succeeds in guillotining the whites, who will be left to fight Atlantic magazine editor Jeffrey Goldberg’s planned war on behalf of Israel?

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  280. @Art Deco
    His daughter's name actually is Attallah. There are six daughters. I'm not sure any of them have a normal family and work life. A couple of them have been busted (one most recently on animal cruelty charges). The one who seems the most normal is the 3d daughter, who works for one of the municipal governments in Westchester County, N.Y. I think a couple of them are able to milk grant-money and lecture circuit pipelines. Not an edifying crew. (Three of ML King's 4 children have also been embarrassments, just less spectacularly so. Interestingly, Atallah Shabazz and Yolanda King were supposedly bosom pals. Common failures in living, I'd guess).

    Thanks for the interesting factual info at the bottom of this thread.

    Because I clearly have time to waste, I couldn’t resist checking on this “Attila/Attallah” business, and it seems you are both right. Also, the second daughter’s name, Qubilah, apparently refers to Kublai Khan.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X#Marriage_and_family

    Here’s the relevant quote from the Autobiography of Malcolm X, Chapter 13:

    Attallah, our oldest daughter, was born in November 1958. She’s named for Attilah the Hun (he sacked Rome). Shortly after Attallah came, we moved to our present seven-room house in an all-black section of Queens, Long Island. Another girl, Qubilah (named after Qubilah Khan) was born on Christmas Day of 1960. Then, Ilyasah (“Ilyas” is Arabic for “Elijah”) was born in July 1962.

    The Attila connection stated in the biography has since been half-denied by Attallah, but she does acknowledge the connection:

    People have to understand the autobiography was written at a time when indeed African Americans were likening themselves to warriors to underscore our revolutionary fervor. And Attallah was close to Attila the Hun, the warrior. But I’m named Attallah, which in Arabic means ‘Gift of God.’ I’ve never been Attila.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attallah_Shabazz#cite_note-6

    I think it’s kind of a cool name, all in all.

    As for Attila, while he did not reach Rome, he did thoroughly sack northern Italy and a lot of other European sites, and he represents in many minds the archetype of the barbarian invader who brought Rome down. So close enough :-)

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  281. What do they all have in common : Coates, Sharpton, Jackson, and the entire ilk of SJW grifters and parasites :

    They have discovered how to milk Whitey out of millions, simply by rubbing slavery and supposed “white supremacy” under the noses of these masochistic white fools, and receiving no resistance.

    All European settlers in the US had fled slave-like circumstances in the “old country”, and this fact is concealed by the leftist edumacation system so as to give the impression as if only blacks were the victims of oppression and tyranny.

    Authenticjazzman “mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US army Vet, and pro jazz musician.

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  282. MEH 0910 says:

    Over at Bloggingheads.tv, Glenn Loury & John McWhorter critique Ta-Nehisi Coates’s new book:

    https://bloggingheads.tv/videos/47877

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