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From today’s Guardian:

Sweden slams shut its open-door policy towards refugees

‘We simply can’t do any more,’ prime minister says in announcing Sweden’s asylum regime will revert to EU minimum

David Crouch in Gothenburg
Tuesday 24 November 2015 13.17 EST

Sweden needs “respite” from the tens of thousands of refugees knocking at its door, the government has said, announcing tough measures to deter asylum seekers in a sharp reversal of its open-door policy towards people fleeing war and persecution.

The country’s generous asylum regime would revert to the “EU minimum”, Sweden’s prime minister, Stefan Löfven, said on Tuesday, revealing that most refugees would receive only temporary residence permits from April.

Identity checks would be imposed on all modes of transport, and the right to bring families to Sweden would be severely restricted, he said. …

“It pains me that Sweden is no longer capable of receiving asylum seekers at the high level we do today. We simply cannot do any more.”

The reversal in refugee policy, which follows the imposition of border controls two weeks ago, marks a policy choice the ruling red-green coalition would have considered unthinkable until asylum seekers began arriving this autumn at a rate of 10,000 a week. …

In other words, the government of Sweden didn’t have a clue how many poor people there are in the world who’d like to move to Sweden and collect welfare. But you can’t blame Sweden’s leaders for their ignorance. How could the government of Sweden possibly have known that many poor foreign countries have large populations? Those are HateStats!

The changes announced on Tuesday were particularly difficult for the Social Democrats’ junior coalition partner, the Green party, seen as the most refugee-friendly of Sweden’s main political parties. The Greens’ deputy prime minister, Åsa Romson, broke into tears as she announced the measures. …

Here’s video. It’s pretty funny (unless you are a Swede and she’s your deputy prime minister).

Sweden’s new asylum regime will apply for three years.

 
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  1. She’s crying, not because of the destruction of Swedish society, but because the elements of destruction have to be restricted.

    • Replies: @Fredrik
    Agreed. This is a truly evil woman. A lot of Swedes think she's stupid because of what she's been saying but she's not stupid.
    , @Clyde

    She’s crying, not because of the destruction of Swedish society, but because the elements of destruction have to be restricted.
     
    Pathetic dumb bunny with her degrees (In 2012 Romson completed a Ph.D in environmental law at Stockholm University.[2]) has her religious faith in open borders tested. Her magnetic attraction to Muslim males despite their track record of raping Swedish females. Gets added dumbness points for her faith in the global warming scam. Might be wrong but the internet shows she has no children or husband. We can see where her female-maternal energies have been displaced to.
    Classic case of loving humanity (saving refugee masses), it's just people (her children) she cannot stand.

    'We are...turning the Mediterranean into the new Auschwitz.' Sweden's deputy prime minister has sparked outrage after comparing the migrant crisis in the Mediterranean to the horrors of the Holocaust.
    In a televised party leader debate on Sunday evening, Asa Romson deplored the desperate.....
     
  2. Not showing on my phone. Was it Boehnerlike leaky eyes or was it actual sobbing?

    Either way it’s pitiful that a woman this naïve and overemotional could become a high ranking polutician in any land. The Iron Lady, she ain’t.

    • Replies: @Tim Howells
    Genuine sobbing - she was not thinking about the refugees by the way, but by her own account about all her comrades in arms in the "Environmental" (i.e. Open Borders) party. The whole scene is hilarious. After decades of fanatically bashing anyone with the slightest hesitation as an insane racist, now it's "who could possibly have seen this coming?".
  3. I wonder how many more examples we will need before our elites and our corporations will finally wake up and think, “Well, if the UK and Western European can only take in so many new people, doesn’t the mean we can only take in so many too?”

    It’s funny to see how the people who usually hold up them as an example — and actually that’s not a stupid thing, the UK and Western Europe are more like us than otherwise — don’t do it on immigration.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "I wonder how many more examples we will need before our elites and our corporations will finally wake up and think, “Well, if the UK and Western European can only take in so many new people, doesn’t the mean we can only take in so many too?”"

    Of course they won't. American Exceptionalism!
    , @boogerbently
    I wonder how much of this is just the inability for pols to ever admit making a mistake ?
    , @carol
    Oh hell no...the elites know that the US has this big empty space called Flyover.

    "Put them out in..Idaho! Utah! There's tons of room!"

  4. Green parties everywhere have been infiltrated by the open-borders crowd, even though the logical policy for any environmentalist party would be to keep out Third World immigrants. Immigration increases the carbon footprint of the newcomers because of their increased income, and it does nothing to alleviate the problem of overpopulation in their own countries in the long run.

    The attempt to get anti-immigration candidates on to the Sierra Club’s Board of Directors in 2004 and bring it back to its former restrictionist policy:

    Of the three candidates, two (Frank Morris and David Pimentel), were on the board of the anti-immigration group Diversity Alliance for a Sustainable America and two (Richard Lamm and Frank Morris) were on the board of directors or the board of advisors of the Federation for American Immigration Reform; both had also held leadership positions within the NAACP. Their candidacies were denounced by a fourth candidate, Morris Dees of the SPLC, as a “hostile takeover” attempt by “radical anti-immigrant activists.” The immigration reduction proponents won 7% of all votes cast in the election. In 2005, members voted 102,455 to 19,898 against a proposed change to “recognize the need to adopt lower limits on migration to the United States.”

    • Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist
    Green parties everywhere have been infiltrated by the open-borders crowd, even though the logical policy for any environmentalist party would be to keep out Third World immigrants.

    Environmental groups in general have been thoroughly infiltrated by every bullshit fad of cultural marxism that has been on full display for the last month. The few of us who are hanging on in some of these groups have to restrict our critiques to quiet, unplanned one-on-ones with people who know better but just can't go there.

    EF founder Howie Wolke and the other old school deep ecology activists saw this takeover coming fast in the early 90's and jumped ship- they knew there was no winning, so most of them just do their work independently( also, they just didn't like this new crowd as people- they were a bunch of self righteous, humorless twits.) In a couple of years, in group after group, it went from middle-aged guys in flannel shirts to Berkely/Portland balaclava wearers. The drift had been coming on for a while, but at that point it just flipped almost overnight.
    , @Bastion
    "and it does nothing to alleviate the problem of overpopulation in their own countries in the long run."

    In fact it has the opposite effect by keeping them further from the Malthusian limits for longer.
  5. This is the new excuse to bring them all here. Hurray!

  6. I have a feeling that their policy will be in ‘respite’ in the same sense that Hollande’s war will be ‘merciless’.

    Language issues.

    • Replies: @Hepp

    Green parties everywhere have been infiltrated by the open-borders crowd, even though the logical policy for any environmentalist party would be to keep out Third World immigrants. Immigration increases the carbon footprint of the newcomers because of their increased income, and it does nothing to alleviate the problem of overpopulation in their own countries in the long run.

     

    Only if you think that political movements need to be logically consistent.

    If you understand the motivating sentiments beyond environmentalism, though, it makes perfect sense. Modern environmentalists are driven by moral posturing and a hatred of Western civilization. So of course they'd be pro-open borders.
  7. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    The Swedish Govt had this false idea that Sweden’s “magic dirt” would help 200,000+ refugees from Iraq/Somalia/Syria integrate as easily as previous waves. Too bad they forgot that those earlier waves 1) selected for higher-status (like the Iranians who fled 1979) and 2) had far fewer numbers.

    But: Sweden is still a very rich country with (comparatively) low crime and a growing economy. Also, a large percentage of its Middle Eastern migrants are Christians. Let’s see if that helps with the usual integration issues.

    • Replies: @JLoHo
    We don't want Middle Easterners to integrate at all in Swedish society because that will destroy the Nordic gene pool.

    No Nordic Gene Pool and we should all just put bullets in our heads and call it a day.
    , @Anonym
    The Swedish Govt had this false idea that Sweden’s “magic dirt” would help 200,000+ refugees from Iraq/Somalia/Syria integrate as easily as previous waves. Too bad they forgot that those earlier waves 1) selected for higher-status (like the Iranians who fled 1979) and 2) had far fewer numbers.

    There is something about the egalitarian left that appeals to also-rans. They hate "determinism", the idea that key inventions or people shape history. They also hate biological determinism. Anyone who has ever been on a sports team with a star athlete knows that often an individual athlete's performance is the difference between winning and losing.

    These new migrants will be an albatross around the neck of Sweden for years to come. Some people are too stupid and stubborn to learn lessons from the mistakes of others and must learn them from their own mistakes. So it is with Sweden.
    , @TB2
    a large percentage of its Middle Eastern migrants are Christians.

    Source?

    Not that it really matters, Arab Christians are not Swedish, not European, they shouldn't be let in because this small bit of land is the only place where a unique culture and people exists. There are vast territories already available for Muslims and Arabs, let them go there.
    , @Friedrich
    Trolling much? the MAOA-2R allel has an occurrence of about 15% in the arab population, as opposed to just .1 to .5% in Europeans. Plus, they are people from pre-industrial societies, so they will never be able to fit in. We simply don't need them, we don't need swedish-muslim bastards, we don't need iraqis in Sweden. They cost billions, they are mostly lazy and dumb (with a mean IQ of about 77-84 and a different work ethic) and worst of all, their culture is as invasive as it gets, building mosques on christian soil, wanting to wear headscarfs in school, no pork in your canteen etc. etc. That's sickening and annoying as hell. That's not enriching, that's impoverishing western Europe.
  8. What will they do if the people keep on coming ? They think leaders like Orban are the devil incarnate, they will not use force to defend their borders. I were a refugee I would still go to Sweden, they are not going to stop you and you will still get a lot of generous benefits for doing nothing there.

  9. Rob McX, how Wikipedia managed to tell that story without more detail on David Gelbaum is a real mystery wrapped inside an enigma.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    I suppose if you can spend £200m buying off the Sierra Club, you can pay some guy to watch Wikipedia 24/7 and delete any unfavourable references to you that turn up in that article or anywhere else.
    , @Anonymous
    From Svigor's search:

    "Californians for Population Stabilization (CAPS) works to formulate and advance policies and programs designed to stabilize the population of California, the U.S. and the world at levels which will preserve the environment and a good quality of life for all."

    This looks like a good group. Has anyone here familiar with them? I've never heard of them or any similar groups.
  10. Vacant real estate in 3rd tier Arctic towns become income properties.

    Swedish private housing sector accused of profiting from refugees

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/18/swedish-private-housing-sector-refugees

    The refugees are raising rents for everyone including productive workers.

    Here’s How the Boring German Housing Market Turned Piping Hot

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-20/here-s-how-the-boring-german-housing-market-turned-piping-hot

    How it used to be:

    Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent. Here’s why

    http://qz.com/167887/germany-has-one-of-the-worlds-lowest-homeownership-rates/

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    "Germany’s residential property market is lucrative for landlords because it’s a nation of renters -- and Germans tend to pay their rent on time."

    I have a hunch Germany's landlords are about to get a shock.
  11. The Swedish word for “enough” is lagom – meaning “precisely the right amount” in the Goldilocks sense.

    What’s the lagom number of downtrodden “refugees” yearning to live free on the Swedish dole? I don’t know, but whatever it is, it’s a lot lower than the number now living in the country. I suspect that it might be less than one.

  12. I think Amy Acker or Jennifer Love Hewitt should be cast for the ” Åsa Romson Story” right now.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    Or Kathy Bates.
  13. @Rob McX
    Green parties everywhere have been infiltrated by the open-borders crowd, even though the logical policy for any environmentalist party would be to keep out Third World immigrants. Immigration increases the carbon footprint of the newcomers because of their increased income, and it does nothing to alleviate the problem of overpopulation in their own countries in the long run.

    The attempt to get anti-immigration candidates on to the Sierra Club's Board of Directors in 2004 and bring it back to its former restrictionist policy:

    Of the three candidates, two (Frank Morris and David Pimentel), were on the board of the anti-immigration group Diversity Alliance for a Sustainable America and two (Richard Lamm and Frank Morris) were on the board of directors or the board of advisors of the Federation for American Immigration Reform; both had also held leadership positions within the NAACP. Their candidacies were denounced by a fourth candidate, Morris Dees of the SPLC, as a "hostile takeover" attempt by "radical anti-immigrant activists." The immigration reduction proponents won 7% of all votes cast in the election. In 2005, members voted 102,455 to 19,898 against a proposed change to "recognize the need to adopt lower limits on migration to the United States."
     

    Green parties everywhere have been infiltrated by the open-borders crowd, even though the logical policy for any environmentalist party would be to keep out Third World immigrants.

    Environmental groups in general have been thoroughly infiltrated by every bullshit fad of cultural marxism that has been on full display for the last month. The few of us who are hanging on in some of these groups have to restrict our critiques to quiet, unplanned one-on-ones with people who know better but just can’t go there.

    EF founder Howie Wolke and the other old school deep ecology activists saw this takeover coming fast in the early 90′s and jumped ship- they knew there was no winning, so most of them just do their work independently( also, they just didn’t like this new crowd as people- they were a bunch of self righteous, humorless twits.) In a couple of years, in group after group, it went from middle-aged guys in flannel shirts to Berkely/Portland balaclava wearers. The drift had been coming on for a while, but at that point it just flipped almost overnight.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Cryptogenic
    Cf. Robert Conquest's second law of politics.
  14. Probably too little and too late.

  15. No tears for two native Swedes murdered in Ikea, but a big boo hoo hoo for the ‘heinous’ crime of limiting third immivasion.
    Åsa Romson: Gråt du svenska spindel, gråta

  16. @Svigor
    Rob McX, how Wikipedia managed to tell that story without more detail on David Gelbaum is a real mystery wrapped inside an enigma.

    I suppose if you can spend £200m buying off the Sierra Club, you can pay some guy to watch Wikipedia 24/7 and delete any unfavourable references to you that turn up in that article or anywhere else.

  17. Interesting to see that the Grauniad comments were open for a few short hours, then Finito.

    At lest the rate of rape of Swedish women may start to stabilize rather than increase exponentially.

  18. @Anon
    The Swedish Govt had this false idea that Sweden's "magic dirt" would help 200,000+ refugees from Iraq/Somalia/Syria integrate as easily as previous waves. Too bad they forgot that those earlier waves 1) selected for higher-status (like the Iranians who fled 1979) and 2) had far fewer numbers.

    But: Sweden is still a very rich country with (comparatively) low crime and a growing economy. Also, a large percentage of its Middle Eastern migrants are Christians. Let's see if that helps with the usual integration issues.

    We don’t want Middle Easterners to integrate at all in Swedish society because that will destroy the Nordic gene pool.

    No Nordic Gene Pool and we should all just put bullets in our heads and call it a day.

    • Replies: @Cryptogenic
    Allowing the integration of Middle Easterners will destroy the suicidal Nordic gene pool. Despite what white dindus say all of this nonsense begins with a malfunctioning white ethos.

    There is no immivasion. How can you be invaded if you welcome the invaders?
  19. Here’s an article from several days ago on the Sweden mess.

    “And therein lies the problem. The real nightmare for Swedish politics is not that it now includes the kind of continental-style far-right party it once thought itself immune to. It is rather that mainstream forces have surrendered all critical perspectives on immigration to a party with which they can neither collaborate nor bear to see affirmed. Had a transparent and dynamic public discussion been taking place in Sweden during the past months — a discussion that acknowledged both the need for human solidarity and the limitations of the country’s infrastructure — a more sustainable immigration policy might have emerged. Instead, it seems ill-fated policies will not be altered until the country brings itself to the brink of collapse.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/14/opinion/swedens-self-inflicted-nightmare.html

  20. This is discouraging but maybe when the demographics change this will be overturned

  21. Meanwhile in the US, ACLU, the defender of criminals and terrorists, files a lawsuit against Mike Pence for trying to protect the residents of Indiana.

    he American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Monday against Indiana Gov. Mike Pence to stop his attempts to suspend resettlement of Syrian refugees.

    The suit claims the governor’s actions violate the U.S. Constitution and federal law. It comes about one week after the governor openly objected against refugees resettling in the state following the deadly Paris attacks on Nov. 13. Five days after those attacks, a Syrian family that fled tried to relocate in Indiana was moved to Connecticut after Pence ordered state agencies to halt resettlement activities.

    “There is no border around the state of Indiana that prevents people from entering our state who may move freely within the United States,” said ACLU of Indiana legal director Ken Falk in a statement Monday night. “Decisions concerning immigration and refugee resettlement are exclusively the province of the federal government, and attempts to pre-empt that authority violate both equal protection and civil rights laws and intrude on authority that is exclusively federal.”

    The goal of the lawsuit, brought on behalf of Exodus Immigration, is to stop Pence from blocking or withholding aid from refugees.

    Exodus Immigration told News 18’s sister station, WISH-TV, on Monday that it would defy Pence’s order.

    “The actions taken by Governor Pence to block Syrian refugees from entering the State of Indiana are not in line with Hoosier or American values,” said Carleen F. Miller, Exodus Refugee Immigration Inc. executive director. “Indiana is a welcoming state known for our hospitality. History will judge us in this moment – whether we take the moral stand for victims of war and persecution in their time of need or reject our core principles by giving in to fear and terror.”

    According to the Associated Press, Pence said last week he was “deeply moved” by the refugees’ plight but was concerned about militants possibly infiltrating the United States through the refugee program.

    “We’re very confident that we have the legal authority to suspend the resettlement program relative to Syrian refugees in the state of Indiana, and I think it is the proper course,” Pence stated.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    The ACLU is not the opponent of the American people, it is the enemy of the American people.
    , @AndrewR
    When did the ACLU become a SJW arm?
    , @Romanian
    History will judge them alright, if there's anyone left who gives a damn about history. That was always a Western obsession.
    , @NOTA
    He really doesn't have the legal authority to prevent refugees coming into his state, nor should he.
    , @Rob McX
    Besides giving $200m to the Sierra Club, David Gelbaum also gave $93m to the ACLU.
  22. Does anyone here know what has happened to the Swedish Surveyor site ?

  23. That deputy prime minister is a fraud. Swedish chicks are all blonde. I’ve got a Swedish Bikini Team poster to prove it.

  24. Good for Sweden:) I have relatives near Uddevalla. Comfortable lives, despite the then downturns in their local economy. They damned well knew Sweden’s social welfare state didn’t stem from “magic dirt”, but talent, education, drive, genetics, shared history and values, etc.

    We were talking America. They didn’t seem to understand the idea of a bad neighborhood. I was thinking Newark. They talked about the people down the street with a handicapped child. I was just a short-term visitor, but I was astounded by their world (early 1990s) that seemed crime-free, bullshit-minimized, and reasonably secure. Taxes are high, but they deliver . . . social welfare.

    I don’t know their situation now, but I can’t imagine they’re happy with Sweden’s pro-migrant nutsiness.

  25. While primitive immigrant populations offer no benefits to the nation as a whole they do require large public outlays that translate into government jobs and programs that benefit private interests in a position to exploit the influx. This creates a constituency for low quality immigrants.
    These ‘advocates’ cannot simply come out and say they are exploiting third world poverty for their personal benefit even though that is really all they are doing so they denounce the motives of anyone who reasonably asks how a Somali, Afghan,etc. who failed in their own culture is going to do any better in a more advanced and competitive one.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  26. Europeans Shocked To Discover Merkel Is Crazy

  27. It’s way too little, way too late.

    All Sweden is doing is reducing the rate at which it legally accepts “refugees.” Besides, we know that when politicians don’t have their hearts behind immigration restrictions the applicable laws are meaningless.

    Ten years ago, there were no beggars anywhere on the streets of Sweden. Today, they are everywhere. And the Roma move to Sweden quite legally as citizens of the European Union. They are just the tip of the iceberg.

    What has happened to Sweden over the last generation (with almost complete support of the media and political establishment) has transformed the kingdom forever. Meanwhile, His Majesty King Carl XVI Gustav is worried about Swedes taking too many baths.

    • Agree: Jeff77450
    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    It’s way too little, way too late.
     
    No it isn't. Despair is a sin, and you have sinned.

    Help if you will, but if you won't help at least don't hinder.
    , @Mr. Anon
    "Meanwhile, His Majesty King Carl XVI Gustav is worried about Swedes taking too many baths."

    Then he'll be very happy with the new arrivals.
    , @WowJustWow
    Too many baths, you say? Perhaps the elites, in a political coalition with the underclass, are plotting to get rid of all the pesky white middle-class Swedes by telling them that Sweden is made of tragic dirt and sending them away in an ark, promising to follow in their own arks later. Then they'll stay firmly at home and live full, rich and happy lives until they are all suddenly wiped out by jihad.
    , @Romanian

    Ten years ago, there were no beggars anywhere on the streets of Sweden. Today, they are everywhere. And the Roma move to Sweden quite legally as citizens of the European Union.
     
    Tongue in cheek: You should be thanking us Eastern Europeans. The Roma were a vaccine against non-European immigration. They are nominally Europeans so the West can work out its frustrations on them without triggering the same alarm bells that railing against Pakistanis and the like (despite the common ancestry) would have. Plus, Eastern Europeans have had hundreds of years to reflexively want to disassociate themselves from them. This kind of diversity of thought in the EU would have helped Western countries learn to catch up to those same sentiments. The Roma are not organized and are unable to agitate for privileges and rights, so you only have to battle their do-gooder "gadje" helpers. Instead, you didn't learn anything. The French kicked them to the curb with extreme relish, but they were too unaware to actually get the point that they have their own "Roma" now. As soon as the first boats started leaving Libya, the Europeans should have gone into immediate defense mode, clutching their wallets, holding their noses and sinking those vessels or towing them back. Instead, they helped them right along, oblivious to what was going to happen. They're even making the privileges hereditary. Honestly, some people...
  28. @Anon
    The Swedish Govt had this false idea that Sweden's "magic dirt" would help 200,000+ refugees from Iraq/Somalia/Syria integrate as easily as previous waves. Too bad they forgot that those earlier waves 1) selected for higher-status (like the Iranians who fled 1979) and 2) had far fewer numbers.

    But: Sweden is still a very rich country with (comparatively) low crime and a growing economy. Also, a large percentage of its Middle Eastern migrants are Christians. Let's see if that helps with the usual integration issues.

    The Swedish Govt had this false idea that Sweden’s “magic dirt” would help 200,000+ refugees from Iraq/Somalia/Syria integrate as easily as previous waves. Too bad they forgot that those earlier waves 1) selected for higher-status (like the Iranians who fled 1979) and 2) had far fewer numbers.

    There is something about the egalitarian left that appeals to also-rans. They hate “determinism”, the idea that key inventions or people shape history. They also hate biological determinism. Anyone who has ever been on a sports team with a star athlete knows that often an individual athlete’s performance is the difference between winning and losing.

    These new migrants will be an albatross around the neck of Sweden for years to come. Some people are too stupid and stubborn to learn lessons from the mistakes of others and must learn them from their own mistakes. So it is with Sweden.

  29. Translated very loosely from the Swedish, what she was saying was, “People all over Sweden are furious at this mess we’ve created, and if we don’t do something drastic right now the Sweden Democrats are going to crush us at the polls in the next election (sob).”

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    Yep, this. Sweden's ruling political parties have realized that if they continue allowing this invasion they will get trounced in the next elections. They've seen the results in Poland and Austria.Those elections are still (iirc) 2-3 years away. So they'll spend the next 2-3 years fudging the immigration numbers, putting pressure on the press to hide the real damage caused by mass Third World immigration, and hoping Swedes are too dumb to notice.
    , @dfordoom

    “People all over Sweden are furious at this mess we’ve created, and if we don’t do something drastic right now the Sweden Democrats are going to crush us at the polls in the next election (sob).”
     
    Yep. It's just a strategy to undermine the Sweden Democrats. The depressing thing is that it will probably work.
  30. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor
    Rob McX, how Wikipedia managed to tell that story without more detail on David Gelbaum is a real mystery wrapped inside an enigma.

    From Svigor’s search:

    Californians for Population Stabilization (CAPS) works to formulate and advance policies and programs designed to stabilize the population of California, the U.S. and the world at levels which will preserve the environment and a good quality of life for all.”

    This looks like a good group. Has anyone here familiar with them? I’ve never heard of them or any similar groups.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I meant to say, "Is anyone here familiar with them?" ( not "has anyone here ...").
    , @Anonymous
    I was not familiar with CAPS but I am an angry Californian and so I just joined. Thanks for calling the group to my attention. Searching for data I immediately saw CAPS derided by some group's "Right Wing Watch." I love groups like these because the enemy of my enemy is my friend, so their silly lists help me find the other good guys.
  31. @Anonymous
    From Svigor's search:

    "Californians for Population Stabilization (CAPS) works to formulate and advance policies and programs designed to stabilize the population of California, the U.S. and the world at levels which will preserve the environment and a good quality of life for all."

    This looks like a good group. Has anyone here familiar with them? I've never heard of them or any similar groups.

    I meant to say, “Is anyone here familiar with them?” ( not “has anyone here …”).

  32. With the dominant theme around here being that we’re subject to an invasion, I’m not sure how you can find Sweden’s new restrictiveness confirmatory.

  33. “BATACLAN VICTIMS’APARTMENTS, JOBS TO BE GIVEN TO SYRIAN REFUGEES, SAYS HOLLANDE: WE CAN NOT BRING THEM BACK, PRESIDENT SAYS, BUT WE CAN ASSURE THAT THEY HAVE NOT DIED IN VAIN”

  34. @Rob McX
    Green parties everywhere have been infiltrated by the open-borders crowd, even though the logical policy for any environmentalist party would be to keep out Third World immigrants. Immigration increases the carbon footprint of the newcomers because of their increased income, and it does nothing to alleviate the problem of overpopulation in their own countries in the long run.

    The attempt to get anti-immigration candidates on to the Sierra Club's Board of Directors in 2004 and bring it back to its former restrictionist policy:

    Of the three candidates, two (Frank Morris and David Pimentel), were on the board of the anti-immigration group Diversity Alliance for a Sustainable America and two (Richard Lamm and Frank Morris) were on the board of directors or the board of advisors of the Federation for American Immigration Reform; both had also held leadership positions within the NAACP. Their candidacies were denounced by a fourth candidate, Morris Dees of the SPLC, as a "hostile takeover" attempt by "radical anti-immigrant activists." The immigration reduction proponents won 7% of all votes cast in the election. In 2005, members voted 102,455 to 19,898 against a proposed change to "recognize the need to adopt lower limits on migration to the United States."
     

    “and it does nothing to alleviate the problem of overpopulation in their own countries in the long run.”

    In fact it has the opposite effect by keeping them further from the Malthusian limits for longer.

  35. Need not be said its already too late for Sweden.

    As America deals with its dysfunctional black underclass so will Sweden have to deal with a hostile minority. A Muslim one at that.

    A shame. A pity. Completely avoidable.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    A shame and a pity but it's happened, so let's see what the Swedish people really are made of. I agree with the commenter that despair is a sin.

    Righteous rage is not.
  36. @Stan
    Meanwhile in the US, ACLU, the defender of criminals and terrorists, files a lawsuit against Mike Pence for trying to protect the residents of Indiana.

    he American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Monday against Indiana Gov. Mike Pence to stop his attempts to suspend resettlement of Syrian refugees.

    The suit claims the governor’s actions violate the U.S. Constitution and federal law. It comes about one week after the governor openly objected against refugees resettling in the state following the deadly Paris attacks on Nov. 13. Five days after those attacks, a Syrian family that fled tried to relocate in Indiana was moved to Connecticut after Pence ordered state agencies to halt resettlement activities.

    “There is no border around the state of Indiana that prevents people from entering our state who may move freely within the United States,” said ACLU of Indiana legal director Ken Falk in a statement Monday night. “Decisions concerning immigration and refugee resettlement are exclusively the province of the federal government, and attempts to pre-empt that authority violate both equal protection and civil rights laws and intrude on authority that is exclusively federal.”

    The goal of the lawsuit, brought on behalf of Exodus Immigration, is to stop Pence from blocking or withholding aid from refugees.

    Exodus Immigration told News 18’s sister station, WISH-TV, on Monday that it would defy Pence’s order.

    “The actions taken by Governor Pence to block Syrian refugees from entering the State of Indiana are not in line with Hoosier or American values,” said Carleen F. Miller, Exodus Refugee Immigration Inc. executive director. “Indiana is a welcoming state known for our hospitality. History will judge us in this moment – whether we take the moral stand for victims of war and persecution in their time of need or reject our core principles by giving in to fear and terror.”

    According to the Associated Press, Pence said last week he was “deeply moved” by the refugees’ plight but was concerned about militants possibly infiltrating the United States through the refugee program.

    “We’re very confident that we have the legal authority to suspend the resettlement program relative to Syrian refugees in the state of Indiana, and I think it is the proper course,” Pence stated.

    The ACLU is not the opponent of the American people, it is the enemy of the American people.

    • Disagree: (((Owen)))
  37. @Grumpy
    It's way too little, way too late.

    All Sweden is doing is reducing the rate at which it legally accepts "refugees." Besides, we know that when politicians don't have their hearts behind immigration restrictions the applicable laws are meaningless.

    Ten years ago, there were no beggars anywhere on the streets of Sweden. Today, they are everywhere. And the Roma move to Sweden quite legally as citizens of the European Union. They are just the tip of the iceberg.

    What has happened to Sweden over the last generation (with almost complete support of the media and political establishment) has transformed the kingdom forever. Meanwhile, His Majesty King Carl XVI Gustav is worried about Swedes taking too many baths.

    It’s way too little, way too late.

    No it isn’t. Despair is a sin, and you have sinned.

    Help if you will, but if you won’t help at least don’t hinder.

    • Agree: Harold
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    That sounds as vacuous as a political campaign based on "Hope".
    , @Melendwyr
    Short of ethnic cleansing - which I cannot imagine the Swedes ever attempting, or the rest of the world permitting if it were attempted - what 'solution' do you imagine is possible?

    There is difference between despairing when hope remains and recognizing when the battle is lost. If the war is to be won, it's necessary to cope with reality, instead of unrealistic pessimism OR optimism.

    Europe is lost. They haven't driven off the cliff's edge yet, but they've passed the point of no return. No action that can be taken will stop the coming plummet.
  38. It would seem Sweden’s resort to the “EU minimum” is an instance of shutting the barn door after the cows have go – no, wait – after the foreign cows have come into the barn, as the overwhelmingly Moslem & African imminvaders’ fertility rates mean that native Swedes will inexorably become a hated minority in what had been their formerly superlative country.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Race mixing is highly encouraged in Sweden so ethnic Swedes will become a minority eventually probably because a majority of births will be produced by mixed race liaisons.
  39. @Anon
    The Swedish Govt had this false idea that Sweden's "magic dirt" would help 200,000+ refugees from Iraq/Somalia/Syria integrate as easily as previous waves. Too bad they forgot that those earlier waves 1) selected for higher-status (like the Iranians who fled 1979) and 2) had far fewer numbers.

    But: Sweden is still a very rich country with (comparatively) low crime and a growing economy. Also, a large percentage of its Middle Eastern migrants are Christians. Let's see if that helps with the usual integration issues.

    a large percentage of its Middle Eastern migrants are Christians.

    Source?

    Not that it really matters, Arab Christians are not Swedish, not European, they shouldn’t be let in because this small bit of land is the only place where a unique culture and people exists. There are vast territories already available for Muslims and Arabs, let them go there.

    • Replies: @Fredrik
    The city of Södertälje(pop. 80,000) south of Stockholm is about one third Assyrian. Those are Christians. I do agree with you that they aren't Swedes and their behaviour is not exactly what I think is recommended.

    It's also true that many of the Muslim immigrants aren't particularly religious. Iranians, Bosnians, Albanians etc. have their own issues though...

    , @AndrewR
    You seem to fall victim to the Magic Dirt theory Derb writes of. There is nothing inherent about "Europe" that makes "Europeans" all alike and categorically different from non-Europeans. Only a tragically provincial person could think this. Read more, travel more, meet more people, and spend less time pretending you know much about the world.
    , @anowow
    Magic dirt theory meet magic cross.


    Many of the problems that afflict the Middle East are regional, not religious.
  40. The comments to that Guardian piece, most by Swedes, are both sober and sobering. Truly, the cultural winds are shifting on the subject of immigration, not only in Sweden but all over Europe. The United States is a little behind in that regard but I expect we will soon follow suit.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    It's the same with the comments in the NY Times. I don't think the US is behind the European countries. I just think that with our hegemonic media and corporate state -- which is totally enmeshed with the political machines of both parties -- we have less ability to change anything.

    I used to think you could escape it by fleeing to Whitopia but that's not true. Soon the repression will seep into every corner of the US.

    BTW, Swedish Americans are shooting and rioting in Minneapolis. Have you heard? I learned about the truth from....the comments accompanying the article in the NY Times. Some of them could have been written by the folks here.
  41. Naturally the green party supports it as there’s no surer way to reduce someone’s carbon emissions than taking them out of a preindustrial Mediterranean country and bringing them to Sweden…

  42. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    From Svigor's search:

    "Californians for Population Stabilization (CAPS) works to formulate and advance policies and programs designed to stabilize the population of California, the U.S. and the world at levels which will preserve the environment and a good quality of life for all."

    This looks like a good group. Has anyone here familiar with them? I've never heard of them or any similar groups.

    I was not familiar with CAPS but I am an angry Californian and so I just joined. Thanks for calling the group to my attention. Searching for data I immediately saw CAPS derided by some group’s “Right Wing Watch.” I love groups like these because the enemy of my enemy is my friend, so their silly lists help me find the other good guys.

  43. @notsaying
    I wonder how many more examples we will need before our elites and our corporations will finally wake up and think, "Well, if the UK and Western European can only take in so many new people, doesn't the mean we can only take in so many too?"

    It's funny to see how the people who usually hold up them as an example -- and actually that's not a stupid thing, the UK and Western Europe are more like us than otherwise -- don't do it on immigration.

    “I wonder how many more examples we will need before our elites and our corporations will finally wake up and think, “Well, if the UK and Western European can only take in so many new people, doesn’t the mean we can only take in so many too?””

    Of course they won’t. American Exceptionalism!

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Right. On Fox News, the Neocon commentators always say that America does a much better job of assimilating its Muslim immigrants than European nations have done. I think it's more a matter of how many you let in. They're already a problem here, just not our biggest problem.
  44. “The Greens’ deputy prime minister, Åsa Romson, broke into tears as she announced the measures. …”

    Because of course, no people are as reknowned for their love and stewardship of the environment as arabs are.

  45. @Grumpy
    It's way too little, way too late.

    All Sweden is doing is reducing the rate at which it legally accepts "refugees." Besides, we know that when politicians don't have their hearts behind immigration restrictions the applicable laws are meaningless.

    Ten years ago, there were no beggars anywhere on the streets of Sweden. Today, they are everywhere. And the Roma move to Sweden quite legally as citizens of the European Union. They are just the tip of the iceberg.

    What has happened to Sweden over the last generation (with almost complete support of the media and political establishment) has transformed the kingdom forever. Meanwhile, His Majesty King Carl XVI Gustav is worried about Swedes taking too many baths.

    “Meanwhile, His Majesty King Carl XVI Gustav is worried about Swedes taking too many baths.”

    Then he’ll be very happy with the new arrivals.

  46. @Charles Erwin Wilson

    It’s way too little, way too late.
     
    No it isn't. Despair is a sin, and you have sinned.

    Help if you will, but if you won't help at least don't hinder.

    That sounds as vacuous as a political campaign based on “Hope”.

  47. @Grumpy
    It's way too little, way too late.

    All Sweden is doing is reducing the rate at which it legally accepts "refugees." Besides, we know that when politicians don't have their hearts behind immigration restrictions the applicable laws are meaningless.

    Ten years ago, there were no beggars anywhere on the streets of Sweden. Today, they are everywhere. And the Roma move to Sweden quite legally as citizens of the European Union. They are just the tip of the iceberg.

    What has happened to Sweden over the last generation (with almost complete support of the media and political establishment) has transformed the kingdom forever. Meanwhile, His Majesty King Carl XVI Gustav is worried about Swedes taking too many baths.

    Too many baths, you say? Perhaps the elites, in a political coalition with the underclass, are plotting to get rid of all the pesky white middle-class Swedes by telling them that Sweden is made of tragic dirt and sending them away in an ark, promising to follow in their own arks later. Then they’ll stay firmly at home and live full, rich and happy lives until they are all suddenly wiped out by jihad.

  48. Here’s video. It’s pretty funny (unless you are a Swede and she’s your deputy prime minister).

    What does “Fruktansvärda beslut” mean?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    What does “Fruktansvärda beslut” mean?

    Probably not whatever you are thinking.

    , @res
    According to Google Translate: "Terrible decision."
    , @kaganovitch
    If you know German, Swedish is very similar (mutatis mutandis of course) Thus "Fruktansvärda beslut" Frucktan = Furcht(fear), Varda=wurdig (worthy),Beslut= Beschluss(decision)
  49. @George
    Vacant real estate in 3rd tier Arctic towns become income properties.

    Swedish private housing sector accused of profiting from refugees

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/18/swedish-private-housing-sector-refugees

    The refugees are raising rents for everyone including productive workers.

    Here's How the Boring German Housing Market Turned Piping Hot

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-20/here-s-how-the-boring-german-housing-market-turned-piping-hot

    How it used to be:

    Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent. Here’s why

    http://qz.com/167887/germany-has-one-of-the-worlds-lowest-homeownership-rates/

    “Germany’s residential property market is lucrative for landlords because it’s a nation of renters — and Germans tend to pay their rent on time.”

    I have a hunch Germany’s landlords are about to get a shock.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    Thing is, most refugees' rents will be footed by the German taxpayer, who always pays on time.

    At the instigation of José Antonio Vargas, Hillary Clinton pledges to stop using the term "illegal immigrant".
  50. @Wilkey
    "Germany’s residential property market is lucrative for landlords because it’s a nation of renters -- and Germans tend to pay their rent on time."

    I have a hunch Germany's landlords are about to get a shock.

    Thing is, most refugees’ rents will be footed by the German taxpayer, who always pays on time.

    At the instigation of José Antonio Vargas, Hillary Clinton pledges to stop using the term “illegal immigrant”.

  51. @Tom-in-VA
    Translated very loosely from the Swedish, what she was saying was, "People all over Sweden are furious at this mess we've created, and if we don't do something drastic right now the Sweden Democrats are going to crush us at the polls in the next election (sob)."

    Yep, this. Sweden’s ruling political parties have realized that if they continue allowing this invasion they will get trounced in the next elections. They’ve seen the results in Poland and Austria.Those elections are still (iirc) 2-3 years away. So they’ll spend the next 2-3 years fudging the immigration numbers, putting pressure on the press to hide the real damage caused by mass Third World immigration, and hoping Swedes are too dumb to notice.

    • Replies: @Paco Wové

    Yep, this. Sweden’s ruling political parties have realized that if they continue allowing this invasion they will get trounced in the next elections. They’ve seen the results in Poland and Austria.Those elections are still (iirc) 2-3 years away. So they’ll spend the next 2-3 years fudging the immigration numbers, putting pressure on the press to hide the real damage caused by mass Third World immigration, and hoping Swedes are too dumb to notice.
     
    And if they manage to pull this off and regain solid control of government, they'll go right back to allowing and encouraging more mass Third World immigration.
  52. “About 44% of respondents in an Ipsos poll in September said Sweden should take more refugees – an increase of 18 percentage points since February – while 30% were opposed. Almost a third of Swedes said they were willing to house a refugee in their home.”

    Bullshit. First, note that it was taken in September – probably a month before the article was published (October 18) and before the refugee problem had gotten worse. Second, if support were that strong, the Left would not be backing down. Only imminent fear of political defeat will cause the Left to (pretend to) change their position.

  53. @AndrewR
    Not showing on my phone. Was it Boehnerlike leaky eyes or was it actual sobbing?

    Either way it's pitiful that a woman this naïve and overemotional could become a high ranking polutician in any land. The Iron Lady, she ain't.

    Genuine sobbing – she was not thinking about the refugees by the way, but by her own account about all her comrades in arms in the “Environmental” (i.e. Open Borders) party. The whole scene is hilarious. After decades of fanatically bashing anyone with the slightest hesitation as an insane racist, now it’s “who could possibly have seen this coming?”.

  54. So there you have it.

    The political class is ‘surprised’ by the fact that if you leave the safe door open, all the goodies ‘mysteriously’ vanish.

  55. Sweden is like one of the small liberal town in the USA where liberal women who have never run into real constraints or real conflicts end-up in positions of power. Often in small towns there is little cost. Nice White Lady school marm stuff.

  56. What’s interesting to note are the comments in the Guardian article. The Guardian is a paper described politically as “centre left,” yet the comments opposed to this mass invasion are getting ~10x as many up votes as those in favor of it.

    Attitudes are starting to harden. People are beginning to understand how insane Western immigration policies have been. I remember having a mostly congenial debate with some colleagues about 8 years ago on the issue of immigration, and most of them were sympathetic to the pro-illegal side. Just last week I had a similar conversation, and this time I had allies, and we pretty much shut the rest of them up. Not only that, but we basically implied that only an idiot would believe as they did. And we did it in front of a colleague who is herself an immigrant.

    It’s very, very hard to speak up on the issue of immigration when you feel you’re alone. When you have some allies, not to mention logic and events, it makes things so much easier.

    • Replies: @Clyde

    What’s interesting to note are the comments in the Guardian article. The Guardian is a paper described politically as “centre left,” yet the comments opposed to this mass invasion are getting ~10x as many up votes as those in favor of it.
     
    NY Times comments being the same and are from liberals and moderates. Not just conservatives. You can tell by the phrasing of the liberal commentators. Plus they will often say, "I am socially liberal but this flood of immigrants/refugees is lowering wages, cannot be absorbed. They are intolerant towards gays and women"
    I was surprised to read this Guardian left wing rag is read more on the internet than the UK Daily Mail.
  57. You wrote two months ago about the Finnish prime minister Juha Sipilä giving his house to asylum seekers: http://www.unz.com/isteve/finnish-pm-intellectually-persuaded-by-bodybuilding-refugee-boy/

    Two days ago a 14-year-old girl was raped by Afghan asylum seekers in his hometown: http://yle.fi/uutiset/pm_sipila_calls_crisis_meeting_over_kempele_rape_case/8478859

    Just thought I’d let you know.

    PS. The town’s population is only about 15,000.

    • Replies: @5371
    He must supply his own ass to them, as often as they need it.
  58. @Auntie Analogue
    It would seem Sweden's resort to the "EU minimum" is an instance of shutting the barn door after the cows have go - no, wait - after the foreign cows have come into the barn, as the overwhelmingly Moslem & African imminvaders' fertility rates mean that native Swedes will inexorably become a hated minority in what had been their formerly superlative country.

    Race mixing is highly encouraged in Sweden so ethnic Swedes will become a minority eventually probably because a majority of births will be produced by mixed race liaisons.

    • Replies: @donut
    "mixed race liaisons." Is that a PC euphemism for gang rapes ?
    , @Clyde

    Race mixing is highly encouraged in Sweden so ethnic Swedes will become a minority eventually probably because a majority of births will be produced by mixed race liaisons.
     
    Obama has made being biracial and making biracial children cool worldwide. I never gave biracialism a thought before he got elected, but I can see now there is a growing biracial contingent and pressure group in America and Europe. Born in Africa black guys can get boffed by the native white girls in Europe's major cities, no problem.
  59. @TangoMan
    She's crying, not because of the destruction of Swedish society, but because the elements of destruction have to be restricted.

    Agreed. This is a truly evil woman. A lot of Swedes think she’s stupid because of what she’s been saying but she’s not stupid.

  60. @TB2
    a large percentage of its Middle Eastern migrants are Christians.

    Source?

    Not that it really matters, Arab Christians are not Swedish, not European, they shouldn't be let in because this small bit of land is the only place where a unique culture and people exists. There are vast territories already available for Muslims and Arabs, let them go there.

    The city of Södertälje(pop. 80,000) south of Stockholm is about one third Assyrian. Those are Christians. I do agree with you that they aren’t Swedes and their behaviour is not exactly what I think is recommended.

    It’s also true that many of the Muslim immigrants aren’t particularly religious. Iranians, Bosnians, Albanians etc. have their own issues though…

    • Replies: @NOTA
    The U.S. has a fairly large population of Iraqi Christians, called Chaldeans. They seem to nicely fill the Men With Gold Chains ecological niche.
  61. Horse, barn door.

  62. @TangoMan
    She's crying, not because of the destruction of Swedish society, but because the elements of destruction have to be restricted.

    She’s crying, not because of the destruction of Swedish society, but because the elements of destruction have to be restricted.

    Pathetic dumb bunny with her degrees (In 2012 Romson completed a Ph.D in environmental law at Stockholm University.[2]) has her religious faith in open borders tested. Her magnetic attraction to Muslim males despite their track record of raping Swedish females. Gets added dumbness points for her faith in the global warming scam. Might be wrong but the internet shows she has no children or husband. We can see where her female-maternal energies have been displaced to.
    Classic case of loving humanity (saving refugee masses), it’s just people (her children) she cannot stand.

    ‘We are…turning the Mediterranean into the new Auschwitz.’ Sweden’s deputy prime minister has sparked outrage after comparing the migrant crisis in the Mediterranean to the horrors of the Holocaust.
    In a televised party leader debate on Sunday evening, Asa Romson deplored the desperate…..

    • Replies: @Haxo Angmark
    excellent example of how, in Europe, Holocaustianity has replaced Christianity
    , @Jean Cocteausten
    LOL Ph.D. in environmental law
  63. @Wilkey
    What's interesting to note are the comments in the Guardian article. The Guardian is a paper described politically as "centre left," yet the comments opposed to this mass invasion are getting ~10x as many up votes as those in favor of it.

    Attitudes are starting to harden. People are beginning to understand how insane Western immigration policies have been. I remember having a mostly congenial debate with some colleagues about 8 years ago on the issue of immigration, and most of them were sympathetic to the pro-illegal side. Just last week I had a similar conversation, and this time I had allies, and we pretty much shut the rest of them up. Not only that, but we basically implied that only an idiot would believe as they did. And we did it in front of a colleague who is herself an immigrant.

    It's very, very hard to speak up on the issue of immigration when you feel you're alone. When you have some allies, not to mention logic and events, it makes things so much easier.

    What’s interesting to note are the comments in the Guardian article. The Guardian is a paper described politically as “centre left,” yet the comments opposed to this mass invasion are getting ~10x as many up votes as those in favor of it.

    NY Times comments being the same and are from liberals and moderates. Not just conservatives. You can tell by the phrasing of the liberal commentators. Plus they will often say, “I am socially liberal but this flood of immigrants/refugees is lowering wages, cannot be absorbed. They are intolerant towards gays and women”
    I was surprised to read this Guardian left wing rag is read more on the internet than the UK Daily Mail.

    • Replies: @SWVirginian
    Some years back when I first began commenting on immigration articles in the NYT, my comments were among a handful of those who thought - no, who knew - we were on the wrong tract with both legal and illegal immigration. I have been gratified to see a complete flip in the pro/anti column. My comments tend to get decent 'recommends'. One time my comment came in 3rd in Readers' Picks with Steve Sailer's coming in 5th - a great day.

    One thing I have noticed is that timing of postings at NYT are a bit odd. I would comment early in the morning but not see my comment posted until much later, often behind replies to later comments. How could a reply to a comment not yet posted get ahead of mine? The NYT has some kind of system whereby a person who gets to a certain level of 'recommends' can be posted without waiting for moderation. The later your comment gets posted, the fewer 'recommends' it will get because people have read and moved on.

    I may be paranoid but I'd bet I'm right.
  64. @Tom-in-VA
    Translated very loosely from the Swedish, what she was saying was, "People all over Sweden are furious at this mess we've created, and if we don't do something drastic right now the Sweden Democrats are going to crush us at the polls in the next election (sob)."

    “People all over Sweden are furious at this mess we’ve created, and if we don’t do something drastic right now the Sweden Democrats are going to crush us at the polls in the next election (sob).”

    Yep. It’s just a strategy to undermine the Sweden Democrats. The depressing thing is that it will probably work.

  65. @Anon
    The Swedish Govt had this false idea that Sweden's "magic dirt" would help 200,000+ refugees from Iraq/Somalia/Syria integrate as easily as previous waves. Too bad they forgot that those earlier waves 1) selected for higher-status (like the Iranians who fled 1979) and 2) had far fewer numbers.

    But: Sweden is still a very rich country with (comparatively) low crime and a growing economy. Also, a large percentage of its Middle Eastern migrants are Christians. Let's see if that helps with the usual integration issues.

    Trolling much? the MAOA-2R allel has an occurrence of about 15% in the arab population, as opposed to just .1 to .5% in Europeans. Plus, they are people from pre-industrial societies, so they will never be able to fit in. We simply don’t need them, we don’t need swedish-muslim bastards, we don’t need iraqis in Sweden. They cost billions, they are mostly lazy and dumb (with a mean IQ of about 77-84 and a different work ethic) and worst of all, their culture is as invasive as it gets, building mosques on christian soil, wanting to wear headscarfs in school, no pork in your canteen etc. etc. That’s sickening and annoying as hell. That’s not enriching, that’s impoverishing western Europe.

  66. @Hippopotamusdrome


    Here’s video. It’s pretty funny (unless you are a Swede and she’s your deputy prime minister).

     

    What does "Fruktansvärda beslut" mean?

    What does “Fruktansvärda beslut” mean?

    Probably not whatever you are thinking.

    • Replies: @Grumpy
    It means "horrible decisions."

    Swedish words that get a reaction from English speakers:

    slut = end
    beslut = decision
    fart = speed
    full fart = full speed
    utfart = exit
    avfart = offramp
    hår (sounds like "whore") = hair
    fack = union
    fick = got [Germans react to this one.]
    sex = six
    , @Ozymandias
    "What does “Fruktansvärda beslut” mean?

    Probably not whatever you are thinking"

    Well then what do you call an orgy in fruit yogurt?
  67. @Steve Sailer
    What does “Fruktansvärda beslut” mean?

    Probably not whatever you are thinking.

    It means “horrible decisions.”

    Swedish words that get a reaction from English speakers:

    slut = end
    beslut = decision
    fart = speed
    full fart = full speed
    utfart = exit
    avfart = offramp
    hår (sounds like “whore”) = hair
    fack = union
    fick = got [Germans react to this one.]
    sex = six

    • Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    Full fart ahead!
    , @FineSwine

    sex = six
     
    Say "I need six" in an Australian accent.
    , @jimmyriddle
    "Slutdestination Hoor" on some trains leaving CPH always makes me laugh.
  68. @Grumpy
    It means "horrible decisions."

    Swedish words that get a reaction from English speakers:

    slut = end
    beslut = decision
    fart = speed
    full fart = full speed
    utfart = exit
    avfart = offramp
    hår (sounds like "whore") = hair
    fack = union
    fick = got [Germans react to this one.]
    sex = six

    Full fart ahead!

  69. For several hours each morning you will with be greeted with “moron”. You also forgot the frequently heard bra and titta. I frequently hear “titta på TV” which catches the attention but then mostly disappoints.

  70. @Stan
    Meanwhile in the US, ACLU, the defender of criminals and terrorists, files a lawsuit against Mike Pence for trying to protect the residents of Indiana.

    he American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Monday against Indiana Gov. Mike Pence to stop his attempts to suspend resettlement of Syrian refugees.

    The suit claims the governor’s actions violate the U.S. Constitution and federal law. It comes about one week after the governor openly objected against refugees resettling in the state following the deadly Paris attacks on Nov. 13. Five days after those attacks, a Syrian family that fled tried to relocate in Indiana was moved to Connecticut after Pence ordered state agencies to halt resettlement activities.

    “There is no border around the state of Indiana that prevents people from entering our state who may move freely within the United States,” said ACLU of Indiana legal director Ken Falk in a statement Monday night. “Decisions concerning immigration and refugee resettlement are exclusively the province of the federal government, and attempts to pre-empt that authority violate both equal protection and civil rights laws and intrude on authority that is exclusively federal.”

    The goal of the lawsuit, brought on behalf of Exodus Immigration, is to stop Pence from blocking or withholding aid from refugees.

    Exodus Immigration told News 18’s sister station, WISH-TV, on Monday that it would defy Pence’s order.

    “The actions taken by Governor Pence to block Syrian refugees from entering the State of Indiana are not in line with Hoosier or American values,” said Carleen F. Miller, Exodus Refugee Immigration Inc. executive director. “Indiana is a welcoming state known for our hospitality. History will judge us in this moment – whether we take the moral stand for victims of war and persecution in their time of need or reject our core principles by giving in to fear and terror.”

    According to the Associated Press, Pence said last week he was “deeply moved” by the refugees’ plight but was concerned about militants possibly infiltrating the United States through the refugee program.

    “We’re very confident that we have the legal authority to suspend the resettlement program relative to Syrian refugees in the state of Indiana, and I think it is the proper course,” Pence stated.

    When did the ACLU become a SJW arm?

    • Replies: @snorlax

    When did the ACLU become a SJW arm?
     
    From the start.
  71. @A Finnish Reader
    You wrote two months ago about the Finnish prime minister Juha Sipilä giving his house to asylum seekers: http://www.unz.com/isteve/finnish-pm-intellectually-persuaded-by-bodybuilding-refugee-boy/

    Two days ago a 14-year-old girl was raped by Afghan asylum seekers in his hometown: http://yle.fi/uutiset/pm_sipila_calls_crisis_meeting_over_kempele_rape_case/8478859

    Just thought I'd let you know.

    PS. The town's population is only about 15,000.

    He must supply his own ass to them, as often as they need it.

  72. @Clyde

    She’s crying, not because of the destruction of Swedish society, but because the elements of destruction have to be restricted.
     
    Pathetic dumb bunny with her degrees (In 2012 Romson completed a Ph.D in environmental law at Stockholm University.[2]) has her religious faith in open borders tested. Her magnetic attraction to Muslim males despite their track record of raping Swedish females. Gets added dumbness points for her faith in the global warming scam. Might be wrong but the internet shows she has no children or husband. We can see where her female-maternal energies have been displaced to.
    Classic case of loving humanity (saving refugee masses), it's just people (her children) she cannot stand.

    'We are...turning the Mediterranean into the new Auschwitz.' Sweden's deputy prime minister has sparked outrage after comparing the migrant crisis in the Mediterranean to the horrors of the Holocaust.
    In a televised party leader debate on Sunday evening, Asa Romson deplored the desperate.....
     

    excellent example of how, in Europe, Holocaustianity has replaced Christianity

  73. You delusional imbeciles and idiots realize that even if you have an immigration moratorium (which has as much chance of happening as Donald Trump beating Usain Bolt in the 100 meter dash) it won’t matter one jot with regards to long-term white demographics because whites make up only 40% of births as it is, and so whatever happens Brazil will look fairly white today compared to what America will look like in 2030 or 2040, and that Costa Rica will look like a WN whitopia compared to the US by then? And that your average white person by 2040 will look Walid Jumblat, Juan Pablo Montoya, and Jennifer Lopez, and then people will argue that yes they are white because they do not have the skin pigmentation of Bantu tribesmen, and if you look hard enough you can still make out some white feature. The only viable option really is mass emigration of the remaining whites that are still reasonably non-admmixed to the Southern Cone or Eastern/Central Europe.

    • Replies: @FineSwine

    whites make up only 40% of births as it is, and so whatever happens Brazil will look fairly white today compared to what America will look like in 2030 or 2040, and that Costa Rica will look like a WN whitopia compared to the US by then? And that your average white person by 2040 will look Walid Jumblat, Juan Pablo Montoya, and Jennifer Lopez,
     
    But that 60% is heavily concentrated in just a few places, mostly along the Mexican border. That will mean balkanisation, with all of its attendant problems, not the creation of a single big happy coffee-colored nation.
    , @Wilkey
    Oh, there are a few "delusional imbeciles" here, for sure, but we've discussed white birthrates here before and fully understand the need for whites to have more children. Steve has discussed it, too, in his posts about "affordable family formation."

    A handful of people here - your "delusional imbeciles" - don't think white birthrates matter. But they are a minority.
    , @Daniel Williams

    You delusional imbeciles and idiots realize that ... Brazil will look fairly white today compared to what America will look like in 2030 or 2040
     
    Any intelligent student of history knows that demographic trends, once set into motion, never reverse or change direction—they just become more so, for ever. I tell people all the time that there is no way that white people will ever be a numerical majority in North America. There are simply too many Indians here.

    I'm sad to say that there isn't any historical evidence suggesting that white people can shape civilizations to their liking or convince third-world types to do any one thing or another. Whites certainly haven't shown any aptitude for developing technology to achieve these sorts of goals. It's literally impossible for a race as docile as European-derived whites to exert its will on a large number of non-Europeans.

    Demographics determine this kind of thing. Doesn't anyone understand numbers?
  74. @Clyde

    What’s interesting to note are the comments in the Guardian article. The Guardian is a paper described politically as “centre left,” yet the comments opposed to this mass invasion are getting ~10x as many up votes as those in favor of it.
     
    NY Times comments being the same and are from liberals and moderates. Not just conservatives. You can tell by the phrasing of the liberal commentators. Plus they will often say, "I am socially liberal but this flood of immigrants/refugees is lowering wages, cannot be absorbed. They are intolerant towards gays and women"
    I was surprised to read this Guardian left wing rag is read more on the internet than the UK Daily Mail.

    Some years back when I first began commenting on immigration articles in the NYT, my comments were among a handful of those who thought – no, who knew – we were on the wrong tract with both legal and illegal immigration. I have been gratified to see a complete flip in the pro/anti column. My comments tend to get decent ‘recommends’. One time my comment came in 3rd in Readers’ Picks with Steve Sailer’s coming in 5th – a great day.

    One thing I have noticed is that timing of postings at NYT are a bit odd. I would comment early in the morning but not see my comment posted until much later, often behind replies to later comments. How could a reply to a comment not yet posted get ahead of mine? The NYT has some kind of system whereby a person who gets to a certain level of ‘recommends’ can be posted without waiting for moderation. The later your comment gets posted, the fewer ‘recommends’ it will get because people have read and moved on.

    I may be paranoid but I’d bet I’m right.

  75. @TB2
    a large percentage of its Middle Eastern migrants are Christians.

    Source?

    Not that it really matters, Arab Christians are not Swedish, not European, they shouldn't be let in because this small bit of land is the only place where a unique culture and people exists. There are vast territories already available for Muslims and Arabs, let them go there.

    You seem to fall victim to the Magic Dirt theory Derb writes of. There is nothing inherent about “Europe” that makes “Europeans” all alike and categorically different from non-Europeans. Only a tragically provincial person could think this. Read more, travel more, meet more people, and spend less time pretending you know much about the world.

  76. @AndrewR
    When did the ACLU become a SJW arm?

    When did the ACLU become a SJW arm?

    From the start.

  77. @Stan
    Meanwhile in the US, ACLU, the defender of criminals and terrorists, files a lawsuit against Mike Pence for trying to protect the residents of Indiana.

    he American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Monday against Indiana Gov. Mike Pence to stop his attempts to suspend resettlement of Syrian refugees.

    The suit claims the governor’s actions violate the U.S. Constitution and federal law. It comes about one week after the governor openly objected against refugees resettling in the state following the deadly Paris attacks on Nov. 13. Five days after those attacks, a Syrian family that fled tried to relocate in Indiana was moved to Connecticut after Pence ordered state agencies to halt resettlement activities.

    “There is no border around the state of Indiana that prevents people from entering our state who may move freely within the United States,” said ACLU of Indiana legal director Ken Falk in a statement Monday night. “Decisions concerning immigration and refugee resettlement are exclusively the province of the federal government, and attempts to pre-empt that authority violate both equal protection and civil rights laws and intrude on authority that is exclusively federal.”

    The goal of the lawsuit, brought on behalf of Exodus Immigration, is to stop Pence from blocking or withholding aid from refugees.

    Exodus Immigration told News 18’s sister station, WISH-TV, on Monday that it would defy Pence’s order.

    “The actions taken by Governor Pence to block Syrian refugees from entering the State of Indiana are not in line with Hoosier or American values,” said Carleen F. Miller, Exodus Refugee Immigration Inc. executive director. “Indiana is a welcoming state known for our hospitality. History will judge us in this moment – whether we take the moral stand for victims of war and persecution in their time of need or reject our core principles by giving in to fear and terror.”

    According to the Associated Press, Pence said last week he was “deeply moved” by the refugees’ plight but was concerned about militants possibly infiltrating the United States through the refugee program.

    “We’re very confident that we have the legal authority to suspend the resettlement program relative to Syrian refugees in the state of Indiana, and I think it is the proper course,” Pence stated.

    History will judge them alright, if there’s anyone left who gives a damn about history. That was always a Western obsession.

  78. @Grumpy
    It's way too little, way too late.

    All Sweden is doing is reducing the rate at which it legally accepts "refugees." Besides, we know that when politicians don't have their hearts behind immigration restrictions the applicable laws are meaningless.

    Ten years ago, there were no beggars anywhere on the streets of Sweden. Today, they are everywhere. And the Roma move to Sweden quite legally as citizens of the European Union. They are just the tip of the iceberg.

    What has happened to Sweden over the last generation (with almost complete support of the media and political establishment) has transformed the kingdom forever. Meanwhile, His Majesty King Carl XVI Gustav is worried about Swedes taking too many baths.

    Ten years ago, there were no beggars anywhere on the streets of Sweden. Today, they are everywhere. And the Roma move to Sweden quite legally as citizens of the European Union.

    Tongue in cheek: You should be thanking us Eastern Europeans. The Roma were a vaccine against non-European immigration. They are nominally Europeans so the West can work out its frustrations on them without triggering the same alarm bells that railing against Pakistanis and the like (despite the common ancestry) would have. Plus, Eastern Europeans have had hundreds of years to reflexively want to disassociate themselves from them. This kind of diversity of thought in the EU would have helped Western countries learn to catch up to those same sentiments. The Roma are not organized and are unable to agitate for privileges and rights, so you only have to battle their do-gooder “gadje” helpers. Instead, you didn’t learn anything. The French kicked them to the curb with extreme relish, but they were too unaware to actually get the point that they have their own “Roma” now. As soon as the first boats started leaving Libya, the Europeans should have gone into immediate defense mode, clutching their wallets, holding their noses and sinking those vessels or towing them back. Instead, they helped them right along, oblivious to what was going to happen. They’re even making the privileges hereditary. Honestly, some people…

    • Replies: @Alan D
    I think that Eastern Europe will prove to be even more important, in a positive way, than you have said. Western Europe and other western countries such as my own (Australia) are importing Moslems and some, such as France and Sweden, have reached a stage that is impossible, or at least very difficult, to recover from. Eastern Europe is much stronger and may become the standard bearer for western civilisation.
  79. @Anonymous
    Race mixing is highly encouraged in Sweden so ethnic Swedes will become a minority eventually probably because a majority of births will be produced by mixed race liaisons.

    “mixed race liaisons.” Is that a PC euphemism for gang rapes ?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Swedes largely don't believe in marriage anymore so it isn't accurate to say mixed race marriages will produce the majority of births in Sweden in the future.
  80. Is it me, or has the Overton Window begun a shift in a new direction, even if with baby steps?

  81. But, Steve, can’t you see how W R O N G you are!

    After all, N O N E of those guys were refugees!

  82. The top story at Le Figaro today is Manuel Valls, French prime minister, telling Germany, “Europe cannot welcome more refuges.” Merkel is credited with “giving birth to the crisis” and about her desire to keep them coming, Valls says, “it’s a respectable choice but it wasn’t France that said, ‘Come to me!’” He repeats, “We cannot accept any more refuges into Europe. If we can’t make this happen, the people will say, ‘Europe is finished!”

    http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2015/11/25/01003-20151125ARTFIG00140-valls-ne-veut-plus-de-refugies-et-charge-merkel.php

  83. @Grumpy
    It means "horrible decisions."

    Swedish words that get a reaction from English speakers:

    slut = end
    beslut = decision
    fart = speed
    full fart = full speed
    utfart = exit
    avfart = offramp
    hår (sounds like "whore") = hair
    fack = union
    fick = got [Germans react to this one.]
    sex = six

    sex = six

    Say “I need six” in an Australian accent.

  84. I am happy that I graduated from the US educational system a long time ago.

    High school cheerleader banned from team after tweeting about immigrants

    The captain of a high school cheerleading team has been disciplined after she sent out a tweet about undocumented immigrants.

    She says it was a political statement, not a racial one. Fox 25 spoke with the teen who says she was taking a page from Donald Trump. Caley Godino is a senior at Revere High School and she says part of their homework is to watch the presidential debates, and her tweet was simply about a hot-button issue in the headlines.

    When only 10 percent of Revere votes for mayor, [it's] ’cause the other 90 percent isn’t legal

    … Godino commented in the tweet.

    She says it was a response to a tweet from her teacher about the low voter turnout in November’s mayoral race. Godino says she meant her tweet as a political comment, not a racial one.

    But after other students complained, the school stepped in. Revere Superintendent Dianne Kelly says the district believes in freedom of speech, but cannot support what she calls “insensitive language.”

    “If you’re going to stand up and say something that other people will find offensive, then you need to be prepared to deal with the ramifications,” Kelly said.

    Godino’s mother says her daughter, who is the high school’s head cheerleader, is now banned from cheering for the rest of the season, and she doesn’t think the punishment fits the crime.

    Kelley said the school did not discipline Godino because of the tweet alone, but because of student privacy, she couldn’t comment on specifics.

    “I would just say that, not everything you read is a full story of what’s happening,” Kelly said.

    Caley’s mother told Fox 25 that the school decided to discipline her daughter only because of the intense backlash. And because of this controversy, the school is now creating a group of teachers and students to come up with a curriculum about diversity and acceptance.

    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2015/11/24/high-school-cheerleader-banned-from-team-after-tweeting-about-immigrants/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl15%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D716298131

  85. @rvg
    You delusional imbeciles and idiots realize that even if you have an immigration moratorium (which has as much chance of happening as Donald Trump beating Usain Bolt in the 100 meter dash) it won't matter one jot with regards to long-term white demographics because whites make up only 40% of births as it is, and so whatever happens Brazil will look fairly white today compared to what America will look like in 2030 or 2040, and that Costa Rica will look like a WN whitopia compared to the US by then? And that your average white person by 2040 will look Walid Jumblat, Juan Pablo Montoya, and Jennifer Lopez, and then people will argue that yes they are white because they do not have the skin pigmentation of Bantu tribesmen, and if you look hard enough you can still make out some white feature. The only viable option really is mass emigration of the remaining whites that are still reasonably non-admmixed to the Southern Cone or Eastern/Central Europe.

    whites make up only 40% of births as it is, and so whatever happens Brazil will look fairly white today compared to what America will look like in 2030 or 2040, and that Costa Rica will look like a WN whitopia compared to the US by then? And that your average white person by 2040 will look Walid Jumblat, Juan Pablo Montoya, and Jennifer Lopez,

    But that 60% is heavily concentrated in just a few places, mostly along the Mexican border. That will mean balkanisation, with all of its attendant problems, not the creation of a single big happy coffee-colored nation.

  86. @Wilkey
    Yep, this. Sweden's ruling political parties have realized that if they continue allowing this invasion they will get trounced in the next elections. They've seen the results in Poland and Austria.Those elections are still (iirc) 2-3 years away. So they'll spend the next 2-3 years fudging the immigration numbers, putting pressure on the press to hide the real damage caused by mass Third World immigration, and hoping Swedes are too dumb to notice.

    Yep, this. Sweden’s ruling political parties have realized that if they continue allowing this invasion they will get trounced in the next elections. They’ve seen the results in Poland and Austria.Those elections are still (iirc) 2-3 years away. So they’ll spend the next 2-3 years fudging the immigration numbers, putting pressure on the press to hide the real damage caused by mass Third World immigration, and hoping Swedes are too dumb to notice.

    And if they manage to pull this off and regain solid control of government, they’ll go right back to allowing and encouraging more mass Third World immigration.

  87. @rvg
    You delusional imbeciles and idiots realize that even if you have an immigration moratorium (which has as much chance of happening as Donald Trump beating Usain Bolt in the 100 meter dash) it won't matter one jot with regards to long-term white demographics because whites make up only 40% of births as it is, and so whatever happens Brazil will look fairly white today compared to what America will look like in 2030 or 2040, and that Costa Rica will look like a WN whitopia compared to the US by then? And that your average white person by 2040 will look Walid Jumblat, Juan Pablo Montoya, and Jennifer Lopez, and then people will argue that yes they are white because they do not have the skin pigmentation of Bantu tribesmen, and if you look hard enough you can still make out some white feature. The only viable option really is mass emigration of the remaining whites that are still reasonably non-admmixed to the Southern Cone or Eastern/Central Europe.

    Oh, there are a few “delusional imbeciles” here, for sure, but we’ve discussed white birthrates here before and fully understand the need for whites to have more children. Steve has discussed it, too, in his posts about “affordable family formation.”

    A handful of people here – your “delusional imbeciles” – don’t think white birthrates matter. But they are a minority.

    • Replies: @rvg
    No, I mean there is no reasonable way to deal with this short of ways that will get you a ring side seat to Nuremberg.
  88. @TB2
    a large percentage of its Middle Eastern migrants are Christians.

    Source?

    Not that it really matters, Arab Christians are not Swedish, not European, they shouldn't be let in because this small bit of land is the only place where a unique culture and people exists. There are vast territories already available for Muslims and Arabs, let them go there.

    Magic dirt theory meet magic cross.

    Many of the problems that afflict the Middle East are regional, not religious.

  89. @JLoHo
    We don't want Middle Easterners to integrate at all in Swedish society because that will destroy the Nordic gene pool.

    No Nordic Gene Pool and we should all just put bullets in our heads and call it a day.

    Allowing the integration of Middle Easterners will destroy the suicidal Nordic gene pool. Despite what white dindus say all of this nonsense begins with a malfunctioning white ethos.

    There is no immivasion. How can you be invaded if you welcome the invaders?

    • Replies: @anon
    None of this would be happening if the media didn't lie through their teeth about the consequences like the massive scale of sexual violence being inflicted on 11-16 year olds by the invaders.

    A minority are betraying the majority.
  90. @yaqub the mad scientist
    Green parties everywhere have been infiltrated by the open-borders crowd, even though the logical policy for any environmentalist party would be to keep out Third World immigrants.

    Environmental groups in general have been thoroughly infiltrated by every bullshit fad of cultural marxism that has been on full display for the last month. The few of us who are hanging on in some of these groups have to restrict our critiques to quiet, unplanned one-on-ones with people who know better but just can't go there.

    EF founder Howie Wolke and the other old school deep ecology activists saw this takeover coming fast in the early 90's and jumped ship- they knew there was no winning, so most of them just do their work independently( also, they just didn't like this new crowd as people- they were a bunch of self righteous, humorless twits.) In a couple of years, in group after group, it went from middle-aged guys in flannel shirts to Berkely/Portland balaclava wearers. The drift had been coming on for a while, but at that point it just flipped almost overnight.

    Cf. Robert Conquest’s second law of politics.

  91. @Anonymous
    Race mixing is highly encouraged in Sweden so ethnic Swedes will become a minority eventually probably because a majority of births will be produced by mixed race liaisons.

    Race mixing is highly encouraged in Sweden so ethnic Swedes will become a minority eventually probably because a majority of births will be produced by mixed race liaisons.

    Obama has made being biracial and making biracial children cool worldwide. I never gave biracialism a thought before he got elected, but I can see now there is a growing biracial contingent and pressure group in America and Europe. Born in Africa black guys can get boffed by the native white girls in Europe’s major cities, no problem.

    • Replies: @Kat Grey
    The white women who hook up with African men believe their mixed race daughters will resemble Halle Berry and their sons could become president of the Youessay. Gimme dat ding
    , @boogerbently
    So, we are going to experience a global dumbing down.
  92. @Mr. Anon
    "I wonder how many more examples we will need before our elites and our corporations will finally wake up and think, “Well, if the UK and Western European can only take in so many new people, doesn’t the mean we can only take in so many too?”"

    Of course they won't. American Exceptionalism!

    Right. On Fox News, the Neocon commentators always say that America does a much better job of assimilating its Muslim immigrants than European nations have done. I think it’s more a matter of how many you let in. They’re already a problem here, just not our biggest problem.

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    Speaking of neocon commentators, Krauthammer is crazier than usual on the subject of ISIS, Russia, Turkey, and the downed aircraft.
    , @NOTA
    I think we've gotten s better class of Muslim immigrant than France and the UK. This is probably more luck than good policy, though we also do have a long history assimilating immigrants.
  93. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @Drogger
    Need not be said its already too late for Sweden.

    As America deals with its dysfunctional black underclass so will Sweden have to deal with a hostile minority. A Muslim one at that.

    A shame. A pity. Completely avoidable.

    A shame and a pity but it’s happened, so let’s see what the Swedish people really are made of. I agree with the commenter that despair is a sin.

    Righteous rage is not.

  94. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    Right. On Fox News, the Neocon commentators always say that America does a much better job of assimilating its Muslim immigrants than European nations have done. I think it's more a matter of how many you let in. They're already a problem here, just not our biggest problem.

    Speaking of neocon commentators, Krauthammer is crazier than usual on the subject of ISIS, Russia, Turkey, and the downed aircraft.

    • Agree: Orville H. Larson
  95. Historically speaking, Sweden has a well-deserved bad reputation
    in Europe. As all things are, I’m sure it’s part genetic, and part
    environmental. Occupying the northern shores of the Baltic
    is a curse in itself, condemning the Swedes to spend 6 months
    in relative darkness which destabilizes brain neurochemistry.
    Much of Scandinavia is unfit for human habitation. No wonder
    very few humans live there.

    Already 1200 years ago the Swedes began to show signs of mental
    instability. The Swedish Vikings had a well-documented proclivity
    for pillaging and gang rapes. Normal people aren’t this aggressive
    and violent. Fortunately, the Vikings were easily managed by
    Europe because there were so few of them.

    Then in 1523 when much of Sweden gained independence from
    Denmark, the Swedes, no doubt seeking sunlight and warmth as
    well as other things, went on an orgy of military expansionism
    attacking Germany, Poland, and later Russia, and inflicting
    a horrendous amount of suffering on continental Europe over
    a period of more than 200 years.

    And finally, the Swedes spent World War II basically going to
    the beach and getting filthy rich on lucrative contracts with Nazi
    Germany while the rest of Europe suffered.

    It looks like Sweden is trying to atone for its past,
    and not a moment too soon

  96. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:
    @Luke Lea
    The comments to that Guardian piece, most by Swedes, are both sober and sobering. Truly, the cultural winds are shifting on the subject of immigration, not only in Sweden but all over Europe. The United States is a little behind in that regard but I expect we will soon follow suit.

    It’s the same with the comments in the NY Times. I don’t think the US is behind the European countries. I just think that with our hegemonic media and corporate state — which is totally enmeshed with the political machines of both parties — we have less ability to change anything.

    I used to think you could escape it by fleeing to Whitopia but that’s not true. Soon the repression will seep into every corner of the US.

    BTW, Swedish Americans are shooting and rioting in Minneapolis. Have you heard? I learned about the truth from….the comments accompanying the article in the NY Times. Some of them could have been written by the folks here.

  97. @Stan
    Meanwhile in the US, ACLU, the defender of criminals and terrorists, files a lawsuit against Mike Pence for trying to protect the residents of Indiana.

    he American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Monday against Indiana Gov. Mike Pence to stop his attempts to suspend resettlement of Syrian refugees.

    The suit claims the governor’s actions violate the U.S. Constitution and federal law. It comes about one week after the governor openly objected against refugees resettling in the state following the deadly Paris attacks on Nov. 13. Five days after those attacks, a Syrian family that fled tried to relocate in Indiana was moved to Connecticut after Pence ordered state agencies to halt resettlement activities.

    “There is no border around the state of Indiana that prevents people from entering our state who may move freely within the United States,” said ACLU of Indiana legal director Ken Falk in a statement Monday night. “Decisions concerning immigration and refugee resettlement are exclusively the province of the federal government, and attempts to pre-empt that authority violate both equal protection and civil rights laws and intrude on authority that is exclusively federal.”

    The goal of the lawsuit, brought on behalf of Exodus Immigration, is to stop Pence from blocking or withholding aid from refugees.

    Exodus Immigration told News 18’s sister station, WISH-TV, on Monday that it would defy Pence’s order.

    “The actions taken by Governor Pence to block Syrian refugees from entering the State of Indiana are not in line with Hoosier or American values,” said Carleen F. Miller, Exodus Refugee Immigration Inc. executive director. “Indiana is a welcoming state known for our hospitality. History will judge us in this moment – whether we take the moral stand for victims of war and persecution in their time of need or reject our core principles by giving in to fear and terror.”

    According to the Associated Press, Pence said last week he was “deeply moved” by the refugees’ plight but was concerned about militants possibly infiltrating the United States through the refugee program.

    “We’re very confident that we have the legal authority to suspend the resettlement program relative to Syrian refugees in the state of Indiana, and I think it is the proper course,” Pence stated.

    He really doesn’t have the legal authority to prevent refugees coming into his state, nor should he.

    • Replies: @bomag
    He really doesn’t have the legal authority...

    Oh excuse me, is there some clear cut set of legal niceties to follow here? In this age of legal realism, I'm sure we could find fifteen different compelling authorities under which the governors could step in, starting with declaring the state a sanctuary for citizens against damaging federal rules, which seems to work in reverse regarding illegal immigrants avoiding various statutes. And then there is the whole Tenth Amendment...

    , @ben tillman

    He really doesn’t have the legal authority to prevent refugees coming into his state, nor should he.
     
    The Constitution authorizes Congress "[t]o establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization". But there is nothing in the US Constitution about immigration. He should and does have the authority to keep foreigners out of his state.
  98. @Fredrik
    The city of Södertälje(pop. 80,000) south of Stockholm is about one third Assyrian. Those are Christians. I do agree with you that they aren't Swedes and their behaviour is not exactly what I think is recommended.

    It's also true that many of the Muslim immigrants aren't particularly religious. Iranians, Bosnians, Albanians etc. have their own issues though...

    The U.S. has a fairly large population of Iraqi Christians, called Chaldeans. They seem to nicely fill the Men With Gold Chains ecological niche.

  99. @Harry Baldwin
    Right. On Fox News, the Neocon commentators always say that America does a much better job of assimilating its Muslim immigrants than European nations have done. I think it's more a matter of how many you let in. They're already a problem here, just not our biggest problem.

    I think we’ve gotten s better class of Muslim immigrant than France and the UK. This is probably more luck than good policy, though we also do have a long history assimilating immigrants.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    I think Mexico is probably preferable as a future to Pakistan or Iraq. But I'd prefer the historic US or UK to either of those choices.

    OT, but I see that French-African comedian has been jailed in Belgium.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/25/french-comedian-dieudonne-prison-sentence-hate-speech

    "The controversial French comedian, Dieudonné M’bala M’bala, has been sentenced to two months in jail by a Belgian court for incitement to hatred over racist and antisemitic comments he made during a show. Dieudonné, who has faced similar cases in France, was also fined €9,000 (£6,300) by the court in Liège. He was not in court for the verdict.

    Eric Lemmens, a lawyer for Belgium’s Jewish organisations, told Agence France-Presse that the judgment “says that all the accusations against Dieudonné were established – both incitement to hatred and hate speech but also Holocaust denial”. The charges related to a show in Liège in 2012. “For me this is more than satisfying, this is a major victory,” he said. Earlier this month, the European court of human rights in Strasbourg ruled against Dieudonné in a separate case, deciding that freedom of speech did not protect “racist and antisemitic performances”."

    Unfortunately the Guardian doesn't report what the guy actually said.

    , @bomag
    we also do have a long history assimilating immigrants.

    Maybe that just means we've been burning longer.

    Immigration just means displacement of the natives, or reducing what the natives could have had.

  100. @Hippopotamusdrome


    Here’s video. It’s pretty funny (unless you are a Swede and she’s your deputy prime minister).

     

    What does "Fruktansvärda beslut" mean?

    According to Google Translate: “Terrible decision.”

  101. Let her work as a sex “councilor” (low rent prostitute) for old, TB infected Afghan Muslim migrants in Malmo Sweden.

    Giving Western women the vote was a really bad idea, most everywhere.

    Here in the USA – the Women’s Temperance League pushed through Prohibition.

    There in Sweden it pushed through mass Muslim migration making Sweden the 2nd highest rape crime rate in the world!

  102. Like the clueless whore who suddenly decides it would be fun to gang-bang the entire Sudanese soccer team, Sweden’s Deputy Prime Minister, Åsa Romson, burst into tears as she announced a moratorium on asylum seekers, saying: “We simply can’t do any more.”

  103. @Steve Sailer
    What does “Fruktansvärda beslut” mean?

    Probably not whatever you are thinking.

    “What does “Fruktansvärda beslut” mean?

    Probably not whatever you are thinking”

    Well then what do you call an orgy in fruit yogurt?

    • Replies: @Swede
    Fruktyogurtgruppsex is the word you are looking for.
    , @Cryptogenic
    Charlie Sheen Night? Just jk.
  104. WhatEvvs [AKA "Internet Addict"] says:

    Meanwhile authorities in Indianapolis charged two young black men with murder on Monday in the fatal shooting of a pregnant white woman during a home invasion robbery. Also on Monday, police in New Orleans arrested a black man seen on security camera who first dragged a woman down a New Orleans street and then shot a white medical student who tried to intervene in the stomach. Had the black man’s weapon not jammed he would have shot the medical student in the head as he lay wounded on the sidewalk.

    Also in New Orleans a shoot out Sunday night in a park during the filming of a music video left 17 people injured, mostly black. Not one of the hundreds of mostly black witnesses have yet come forward to provide police with information.

    Where is Black Lives Matter in all of this? Hypocrisy is hypocritical. Who can blame white people and the police for fearing young black men? If the truth were told black people would admit fearing them too.

    (emphasis added for spice)
    I got this from a white suprematicst website.

    Joking! It’s from the NY Times coverage of the Minneapolis shooting. Also from previous comments I learned that EVERYONE was masked, the demo was poorly policed because the “demonstrators” were throwing stuff at the cops, and in general, it was a low-level riot.

    The whole thing sucks, but I bolded the bit about the med student being shot by the thug to point out how emblematic of modern American this is. Low IQ, meet high IQ. Who wins? The one with the gun. Luckily he was too stupid to know how to use it.

  105. @Stan
    Meanwhile in the US, ACLU, the defender of criminals and terrorists, files a lawsuit against Mike Pence for trying to protect the residents of Indiana.

    he American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Monday against Indiana Gov. Mike Pence to stop his attempts to suspend resettlement of Syrian refugees.

    The suit claims the governor’s actions violate the U.S. Constitution and federal law. It comes about one week after the governor openly objected against refugees resettling in the state following the deadly Paris attacks on Nov. 13. Five days after those attacks, a Syrian family that fled tried to relocate in Indiana was moved to Connecticut after Pence ordered state agencies to halt resettlement activities.

    “There is no border around the state of Indiana that prevents people from entering our state who may move freely within the United States,” said ACLU of Indiana legal director Ken Falk in a statement Monday night. “Decisions concerning immigration and refugee resettlement are exclusively the province of the federal government, and attempts to pre-empt that authority violate both equal protection and civil rights laws and intrude on authority that is exclusively federal.”

    The goal of the lawsuit, brought on behalf of Exodus Immigration, is to stop Pence from blocking or withholding aid from refugees.

    Exodus Immigration told News 18’s sister station, WISH-TV, on Monday that it would defy Pence’s order.

    “The actions taken by Governor Pence to block Syrian refugees from entering the State of Indiana are not in line with Hoosier or American values,” said Carleen F. Miller, Exodus Refugee Immigration Inc. executive director. “Indiana is a welcoming state known for our hospitality. History will judge us in this moment – whether we take the moral stand for victims of war and persecution in their time of need or reject our core principles by giving in to fear and terror.”

    According to the Associated Press, Pence said last week he was “deeply moved” by the refugees’ plight but was concerned about militants possibly infiltrating the United States through the refugee program.

    “We’re very confident that we have the legal authority to suspend the resettlement program relative to Syrian refugees in the state of Indiana, and I think it is the proper course,” Pence stated.

    Besides giving $200m to the Sierra Club, David Gelbaum also gave $93m to the ACLU.

  106. @NOTA
    I think we've gotten s better class of Muslim immigrant than France and the UK. This is probably more luck than good policy, though we also do have a long history assimilating immigrants.

    I think Mexico is probably preferable as a future to Pakistan or Iraq. But I’d prefer the historic US or UK to either of those choices.

    OT, but I see that French-African comedian has been jailed in Belgium.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/25/french-comedian-dieudonne-prison-sentence-hate-speech

    “The controversial French comedian, Dieudonné M’bala M’bala, has been sentenced to two months in jail by a Belgian court for incitement to hatred over racist and antisemitic comments he made during a show. Dieudonné, who has faced similar cases in France, was also fined €9,000 (£6,300) by the court in Liège. He was not in court for the verdict.

    Eric Lemmens, a lawyer for Belgium’s Jewish organisations, told Agence France-Presse that the judgment “says that all the accusations against Dieudonné were established – both incitement to hatred and hate speech but also Holocaust denial”. The charges related to a show in Liège in 2012. “For me this is more than satisfying, this is a major victory,” he said. Earlier this month, the European court of human rights in Strasbourg ruled against Dieudonné in a separate case, deciding that freedom of speech did not protect “racist and antisemitic performances”.”

    Unfortunately the Guardian doesn’t report what the guy actually said.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    During the show which was recorded by police, Dieudonné called Hitler a "sweet kid" and a "joyful braggart".

    OMG, can you imagine that?

    He deserves 10 years in Rikers instead!
    , @nglaer
    He doesn't deny the Holocaust, he makes fun of it. Gives an award to Faurisson, dressed in concentration camp garb, stuff like that. It's pretty obnoxious, but I don't think it should be against the law.
  107. @Anonymous Nephew
    I think Mexico is probably preferable as a future to Pakistan or Iraq. But I'd prefer the historic US or UK to either of those choices.

    OT, but I see that French-African comedian has been jailed in Belgium.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/25/french-comedian-dieudonne-prison-sentence-hate-speech

    "The controversial French comedian, Dieudonné M’bala M’bala, has been sentenced to two months in jail by a Belgian court for incitement to hatred over racist and antisemitic comments he made during a show. Dieudonné, who has faced similar cases in France, was also fined €9,000 (£6,300) by the court in Liège. He was not in court for the verdict.

    Eric Lemmens, a lawyer for Belgium’s Jewish organisations, told Agence France-Presse that the judgment “says that all the accusations against Dieudonné were established – both incitement to hatred and hate speech but also Holocaust denial”. The charges related to a show in Liège in 2012. “For me this is more than satisfying, this is a major victory,” he said. Earlier this month, the European court of human rights in Strasbourg ruled against Dieudonné in a separate case, deciding that freedom of speech did not protect “racist and antisemitic performances”."

    Unfortunately the Guardian doesn't report what the guy actually said.

    During the show which was recorded by police, Dieudonné called Hitler a “sweet kid” and a “joyful braggart”.

    OMG, can you imagine that?

    He deserves 10 years in Rikers instead!

  108. @Clyde

    Race mixing is highly encouraged in Sweden so ethnic Swedes will become a minority eventually probably because a majority of births will be produced by mixed race liaisons.
     
    Obama has made being biracial and making biracial children cool worldwide. I never gave biracialism a thought before he got elected, but I can see now there is a growing biracial contingent and pressure group in America and Europe. Born in Africa black guys can get boffed by the native white girls in Europe's major cities, no problem.

    The white women who hook up with African men believe their mixed race daughters will resemble Halle Berry and their sons could become president of the Youessay. Gimme dat ding

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    One has only to walk the sidewalks of many East Coast cities, especially certain boroughs of NY and downtown Philly, to see what the fruits of race mixing really look like.

    Virtually none of them resemble Halle Berry, who has the bone structure of a White woman covered in an attractive shade of black skin. Many are mottled, spotted, or the color of Similac after it has passed through the infant. Their facial features and cranial shapes are often bizarre, random IdentiKit combinations. One cannot help feeling truly sorry for some of these people, and really angry that their parents made the decisions they did.

    The attractive ones, so to speak, are the result of several generations of selective mating and are pretty rare.

    White girls need to have it imprinted on them that if they conceive a child with a black or mixed race man, he or she is much more likely to have a terrible time in life. It will be _her_ fault and she will have to live with what she did. Her liberal friends will act like she is cool and brag about her amongst their liberal friends, but they will inwardly be revolted if they have the slightest humanity left in them, and she will see it sooner or later. Women see what men don't.

    I don't have a daughter, but if I did I can't imagine seeing something like this happen. I'd honestly prefer she be a lesbian. I know that will disgust some, but that's the truth. Lesbians' misery ends when they die. The conquistadors, who conquered the Mesoamericans and then mixed their bloodlines, have been dead four hundred years, and Mexico will still be a mess four hundred years from now.

  109. @Ozymandias
    "What does “Fruktansvärda beslut” mean?

    Probably not whatever you are thinking"

    Well then what do you call an orgy in fruit yogurt?

    Fruktyogurtgruppsex is the word you are looking for.

  110. @Hippopotamusdrome


    Here’s video. It’s pretty funny (unless you are a Swede and she’s your deputy prime minister).

     

    What does "Fruktansvärda beslut" mean?

    If you know German, Swedish is very similar (mutatis mutandis of course) Thus “Fruktansvärda beslut” Frucktan = Furcht(fear), Varda=wurdig (worthy),Beslut= Beschluss(decision)

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    If you know German, Swedish is very similar (mutatis mutandis of course)
     
    Ja, det gör det.

    Thus “Fruktansvärda beslut” Frucktan = Furcht(fear), Varda=wurdig (worthy),Beslut= Beschluss(decision)
     
    The problem with that is that the German word for fruit is Frucht, suggesting that the Swedish "frukt" should mean "fruit". which it in fact does (in addition to meaning "fear"). The better cognate is right here in English: fright.
  111. @donut
    "mixed race liaisons." Is that a PC euphemism for gang rapes ?

    Swedes largely don’t believe in marriage anymore so it isn’t accurate to say mixed race marriages will produce the majority of births in Sweden in the future.

  112. @Ozymandias
    "What does “Fruktansvärda beslut” mean?

    Probably not whatever you are thinking"

    Well then what do you call an orgy in fruit yogurt?

    Charlie Sheen Night? Just jk.

  113. @anony-mouse
    I have a feeling that their policy will be in 'respite' in the same sense that Hollande's war will be 'merciless'.

    Language issues.

    Green parties everywhere have been infiltrated by the open-borders crowd, even though the logical policy for any environmentalist party would be to keep out Third World immigrants. Immigration increases the carbon footprint of the newcomers because of their increased income, and it does nothing to alleviate the problem of overpopulation in their own countries in the long run.

    Only if you think that political movements need to be logically consistent.

    If you understand the motivating sentiments beyond environmentalism, though, it makes perfect sense. Modern environmentalists are driven by moral posturing and a hatred of Western civilization. So of course they’d be pro-open borders.

  114. This decision will do nothing to stop the flow of refugees to Sweden, although it may slow it down a little. If anything, long term, it will allow ever more refugees (in total number) before collapse since Sweden are now more efficiently spreading the available funds per refugee head. And refugees can just smell the weakness of the Swedish state, no crybaby Swedish politicians will truly enforce a hard line on refugees and there will be legal challenges, etc. As long as Sweden remains a party to the 1951 UN Refugee convention — or until the exterior borders of Europe are slammed shut — the refugees will continue to come to Sweden.

    The only positive in all this is the rise of a Patriotic Right in Sweden. But their work has just begun. Because ultimately slamming the door shut, if and when this ever happens, is just the first step in a long struggle to take back their country. After that, most migrants must be deported, and then other non-Swedes convinced to leave voluntarily, one way or another.

  115. @Charles Erwin Wilson

    It’s way too little, way too late.
     
    No it isn't. Despair is a sin, and you have sinned.

    Help if you will, but if you won't help at least don't hinder.

    Short of ethnic cleansing – which I cannot imagine the Swedes ever attempting, or the rest of the world permitting if it were attempted – what ‘solution’ do you imagine is possible?

    There is difference between despairing when hope remains and recognizing when the battle is lost. If the war is to be won, it’s necessary to cope with reality, instead of unrealistic pessimism OR optimism.

    Europe is lost. They haven’t driven off the cliff’s edge yet, but they’ve passed the point of no return. No action that can be taken will stop the coming plummet.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    Short of ethnic cleansing – which I cannot imagine the Swedes ever attempting, or the rest of the world permitting if it were attempted – what ‘solution’ do you imagine is possible?
     
    Swedes could do what Japan did in 2009 and offer immigrants a bounty to leave. They could do what Israel did a few months ago and deport the immigrants to their homelands. They could do what Australia has done, and send the immigrants to another country entirely. They could do what the United States did in 1954 and humanely return the immigrants to where they came from.

    None of these examples could be called "ethnic cleansing". None are inherently inhumane or cruel.

    The temptation to give in to despair is obviously very powerful, but the future hasn't happened yet. White Europeans are a resilient, ingenious bunch, and—with the exception of many of the ones who write internet comments—not especially willing to give up entirely on their posterity.
    , @ben tillman

    Short of ethnic cleansing – which I cannot imagine the Swedes ever attempting, or the rest of the world permitting if it were attempted – what ‘solution’ do you imagine is possible?
     
    The rest of the world? The government of Japan would permit it. As would the governments of China and Russia. And India, Indonesia, Nigeria, and Brazil. What you mean is that the US government would not permit it, as General Wesley Clark has made clear.

    Anyway, things change. Fifty years ago, Sweden was a comfortably and confidently "racist" society. Outside influence changed that. If that influence wanes, it will become possible for the Swedes to revert to the pursuit of national self-interest.

    Reasons for optimism are the Internet and the concomitant disintermediation of communications among Whites and the fact that the US government's policies are causing waste, weakness, and rot in its own imperial apparatus. Things change.

    Dum spiro spero!
  116. The natives up north there in Sweden
    built for themselves earthly Eden,
    then, their lips all snob-curled, they import the Third World,
    now Swedes fret their gene pool’s been peed in.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Swedes are so far gone culturally that the youngest generation sees everyone getting touched by the tar brush as pretty cool. That's their ideal.

    It's the enclaves of hostile Muslims menacing women and the rest of society that is disliked. But the idea of massive miscegenation especially with black Africans is really cool to them. They feel like they are finding religious salvation by getting that black guy notch. That's my impression from 20-something Scandinavian girls.
  117. it will probably not change anything. No refugees will physical be detered from entering Sweden and no one already there will be physical forced to leave.
    It reminds of the “tough” border controls Germany implemented two or three months ago. Many thought this would have changed everything.
    But all that happened was that police men were standing right at the border and watched the migrants coming in. And by the way, las month there was a new record for immigration to Germany: 180 000 in one month only

  118. @notsaying
    I wonder how many more examples we will need before our elites and our corporations will finally wake up and think, "Well, if the UK and Western European can only take in so many new people, doesn't the mean we can only take in so many too?"

    It's funny to see how the people who usually hold up them as an example -- and actually that's not a stupid thing, the UK and Western Europe are more like us than otherwise -- don't do it on immigration.

    I wonder how much of this is just the inability for pols to ever admit making a mistake ?

  119. @Clyde

    Race mixing is highly encouraged in Sweden so ethnic Swedes will become a minority eventually probably because a majority of births will be produced by mixed race liaisons.
     
    Obama has made being biracial and making biracial children cool worldwide. I never gave biracialism a thought before he got elected, but I can see now there is a growing biracial contingent and pressure group in America and Europe. Born in Africa black guys can get boffed by the native white girls in Europe's major cities, no problem.

    So, we are going to experience a global dumbing down.

  120. @NOTA
    He really doesn't have the legal authority to prevent refugees coming into his state, nor should he.

    He really doesn’t have the legal authority…

    Oh excuse me, is there some clear cut set of legal niceties to follow here? In this age of legal realism, I’m sure we could find fifteen different compelling authorities under which the governors could step in, starting with declaring the state a sanctuary for citizens against damaging federal rules, which seems to work in reverse regarding illegal immigrants avoiding various statutes. And then there is the whole Tenth Amendment…

    • Agree: ben tillman
  121. @rvg
    You delusional imbeciles and idiots realize that even if you have an immigration moratorium (which has as much chance of happening as Donald Trump beating Usain Bolt in the 100 meter dash) it won't matter one jot with regards to long-term white demographics because whites make up only 40% of births as it is, and so whatever happens Brazil will look fairly white today compared to what America will look like in 2030 or 2040, and that Costa Rica will look like a WN whitopia compared to the US by then? And that your average white person by 2040 will look Walid Jumblat, Juan Pablo Montoya, and Jennifer Lopez, and then people will argue that yes they are white because they do not have the skin pigmentation of Bantu tribesmen, and if you look hard enough you can still make out some white feature. The only viable option really is mass emigration of the remaining whites that are still reasonably non-admmixed to the Southern Cone or Eastern/Central Europe.

    You delusional imbeciles and idiots realize that … Brazil will look fairly white today compared to what America will look like in 2030 or 2040

    Any intelligent student of history knows that demographic trends, once set into motion, never reverse or change direction—they just become more so, for ever. I tell people all the time that there is no way that white people will ever be a numerical majority in North America. There are simply too many Indians here.

    I’m sad to say that there isn’t any historical evidence suggesting that white people can shape civilizations to their liking or convince third-world types to do any one thing or another. Whites certainly haven’t shown any aptitude for developing technology to achieve these sorts of goals. It’s literally impossible for a race as docile as European-derived whites to exert its will on a large number of non-Europeans.

    Demographics determine this kind of thing. Doesn’t anyone understand numbers?

    • Replies: @Tom-in-VA
    There are a lot fewer Serbs in Croatia now than there were in 1990. And Serbs have been living there for centuries.
  122. @Melendwyr
    Short of ethnic cleansing - which I cannot imagine the Swedes ever attempting, or the rest of the world permitting if it were attempted - what 'solution' do you imagine is possible?

    There is difference between despairing when hope remains and recognizing when the battle is lost. If the war is to be won, it's necessary to cope with reality, instead of unrealistic pessimism OR optimism.

    Europe is lost. They haven't driven off the cliff's edge yet, but they've passed the point of no return. No action that can be taken will stop the coming plummet.

    Short of ethnic cleansing – which I cannot imagine the Swedes ever attempting, or the rest of the world permitting if it were attempted – what ‘solution’ do you imagine is possible?

    Swedes could do what Japan did in 2009 and offer immigrants a bounty to leave. They could do what Israel did a few months ago and deport the immigrants to their homelands. They could do what Australia has done, and send the immigrants to another country entirely. They could do what the United States did in 1954 and humanely return the immigrants to where they came from.

    None of these examples could be called “ethnic cleansing”. None are inherently inhumane or cruel.

    The temptation to give in to despair is obviously very powerful, but the future hasn’t happened yet. White Europeans are a resilient, ingenious bunch, and—with the exception of many of the ones who write internet comments—not especially willing to give up entirely on their posterity.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    Modern white countries are the only ones who baulk at the idea of expelling large numbers of people. Non-white countries just throw people out when they no longer want them. After India and Pakistan-Bangladesh became independent states, around 10m people were forced to change countries. In 1983, Nigeria ordered all 2m+ illegal immigrants out of the country - and gave them exactly two weeks to leave.

    Most Third World immigrants in Europe are from cultures where mass expulsions and ethnic cleansing have been carried out to eliminate racial tensions and population problems. If and when these immigrants become a majority, things won't look to0 good for the indigenous European population.

  123. @Romanian

    Ten years ago, there were no beggars anywhere on the streets of Sweden. Today, they are everywhere. And the Roma move to Sweden quite legally as citizens of the European Union.
     
    Tongue in cheek: You should be thanking us Eastern Europeans. The Roma were a vaccine against non-European immigration. They are nominally Europeans so the West can work out its frustrations on them without triggering the same alarm bells that railing against Pakistanis and the like (despite the common ancestry) would have. Plus, Eastern Europeans have had hundreds of years to reflexively want to disassociate themselves from them. This kind of diversity of thought in the EU would have helped Western countries learn to catch up to those same sentiments. The Roma are not organized and are unable to agitate for privileges and rights, so you only have to battle their do-gooder "gadje" helpers. Instead, you didn't learn anything. The French kicked them to the curb with extreme relish, but they were too unaware to actually get the point that they have their own "Roma" now. As soon as the first boats started leaving Libya, the Europeans should have gone into immediate defense mode, clutching their wallets, holding their noses and sinking those vessels or towing them back. Instead, they helped them right along, oblivious to what was going to happen. They're even making the privileges hereditary. Honestly, some people...

    I think that Eastern Europe will prove to be even more important, in a positive way, than you have said. Western Europe and other western countries such as my own (Australia) are importing Moslems and some, such as France and Sweden, have reached a stage that is impossible, or at least very difficult, to recover from. Eastern Europe is much stronger and may become the standard bearer for western civilisation.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    My original draft included a positive reference to Poland and Hungary as examples of responsible conservative governments, but I took it out at the last second to tighten up the essay and to avoid raising confusion over whether I was including them in The West (e.g., Germany) or the non-West (e.g., Russia). If I had the time, I would have fleshed out your point that they currently seem to represent a combination of Western advancement without the asibiya-destroying decadence besetting, say, Sweden.
    , @Romanian
    One of the hallmarks of human behavior, as demonstrated by the Communist regimes, is that, if you've screwed yourself up, you simply cannot stand someone who hasn't done so as well. You may appreciate them in the abstract, or have a tragic moment of clarity, but it would be so much better if he could be cut down to your level. So, for all your idealism about Eastern European standard bearers of civilization, I think that the West will have used its cultural, military, economic clout to ruin them as well long before its decay has reached the point where it is unable to project its will. Maybe Hungary and Poland (especially Poland, with its homogeneity) have sufficient spine to resist, but that just means that they'll be among the last to fall. The governments of Romania, Bulgaria and others are simply too dysfunctional and corrupt to show that kind of assabya with the citizenry over the foreign paymasters. And, even if they were, it takes time to create an internal defense industry, train appropriate military forces for territorial defense (as opposed to the expeditionary forces NATO has had us concentrate on), get the intelligence community on board with it and find the willpower to fashion an ideology in the here and now that will resist the siren song of soma and the political orgy-porgy and social centrifugal bumblepuppy.

    Don't think that there isn't a kulturkamp here already - Western NGOs or simply money pumps in Eastern Europe or in my country, despite already being a sincere Western cheerleader (because of Russian anxiety and an economic inferiority complex). This money goes towards teaching Roma to organize themselves to pursue their interests in government, hectoring us about our racism and crimethink, promoting abhorrent third wave feminism, childless consumerist lifestyles and all the hallmarks of Western goodthink even when it conflicts with the actual history of the country (leading to some pretty strong cognitive dissonance in certain feeble minds, like in relation to the refugee invasion). The actual standards of discussion in the halls of power is not much better, because everything is about moral posturing on European values. I've been slowly preaching to some people (including, gasp, women of my acquaintance) to get them to recognize reality, but it's an uphill battle, even though we still have a core of conservative realism (the men don't like the refugees, and the women want husbands and children and no one likes the Roma). One of them actually told me that her friends are literal SJWs and then reproduced for me the same lines on Whites, Western imperialism, colonialism, racism, exploitation that I keep reading about in Western sources. I really was appalled. I told her that we, of all people, should have some perspective on West vs the Rest and some realism.

    And, in addition to those NGO traitors (a similar infrastructure to what they have in Ukraine as well, though we NATO/EU Easterners have been good boys so there was no need to activate the big guns), you have the effing foreign corporations. Now, I'm economically liberal with a Nationalist bent, but the whole thing about female hypergamy, marriage mismatch, ostracism of males and male traits and indoctrination at work are taking place inside the foreign corps. I have plenty of friends working for various foreign corps whose local subsidiaries are serving an agenda without realizing it (their Romanian managers or expats are acting in good faith, I believe) and I ask them how much of the workforce is made up of women, how many are spinsters who are told to stay on the career track, whether they actually get the speeches on diversity and tolerance and inclusiveness while relegating men to the factory floor. I think we are simply too provincial to understand that we are being had.

    The battle will have to be won in the West. The first shots might be fired by unrepentant Eastern European barbarians, but it's the West that has to win this thing or else we are all going down.

  124. @Alan D
    I think that Eastern Europe will prove to be even more important, in a positive way, than you have said. Western Europe and other western countries such as my own (Australia) are importing Moslems and some, such as France and Sweden, have reached a stage that is impossible, or at least very difficult, to recover from. Eastern Europe is much stronger and may become the standard bearer for western civilisation.

    My original draft included a positive reference to Poland and Hungary as examples of responsible conservative governments, but I took it out at the last second to tighten up the essay and to avoid raising confusion over whether I was including them in The West (e.g., Germany) or the non-West (e.g., Russia). If I had the time, I would have fleshed out your point that they currently seem to represent a combination of Western advancement without the asibiya-destroying decadence besetting, say, Sweden.

  125. @notsaying
    I wonder how many more examples we will need before our elites and our corporations will finally wake up and think, "Well, if the UK and Western European can only take in so many new people, doesn't the mean we can only take in so many too?"

    It's funny to see how the people who usually hold up them as an example -- and actually that's not a stupid thing, the UK and Western Europe are more like us than otherwise -- don't do it on immigration.

    Oh hell no…the elites know that the US has this big empty space called Flyover.

    “Put them out in..Idaho! Utah! There’s tons of room!”

  126. @Daniel Williams

    Short of ethnic cleansing – which I cannot imagine the Swedes ever attempting, or the rest of the world permitting if it were attempted – what ‘solution’ do you imagine is possible?
     
    Swedes could do what Japan did in 2009 and offer immigrants a bounty to leave. They could do what Israel did a few months ago and deport the immigrants to their homelands. They could do what Australia has done, and send the immigrants to another country entirely. They could do what the United States did in 1954 and humanely return the immigrants to where they came from.

    None of these examples could be called "ethnic cleansing". None are inherently inhumane or cruel.

    The temptation to give in to despair is obviously very powerful, but the future hasn't happened yet. White Europeans are a resilient, ingenious bunch, and—with the exception of many of the ones who write internet comments—not especially willing to give up entirely on their posterity.

    Modern white countries are the only ones who baulk at the idea of expelling large numbers of people. Non-white countries just throw people out when they no longer want them. After India and Pakistan-Bangladesh became independent states, around 10m people were forced to change countries. In 1983, Nigeria ordered all 2m+ illegal immigrants out of the country – and gave them exactly two weeks to leave.

    Most Third World immigrants in Europe are from cultures where mass expulsions and ethnic cleansing have been carried out to eliminate racial tensions and population problems. If and when these immigrants become a majority, things won’t look to0 good for the indigenous European population.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    Modern white countries are the only ones who [balk] at the idea of expelling large numbers of people.
     
    Sure they do—right now. As Nasrudin wisely observed, a lot can happen in a year. You pointed out that it's fairly common to eject foreigners from one's homeland when they become troublesome. I listed a variety of ways that other nations have done so without incurring major international censure.

    Do you really think white people (once they've set their minds to it, of course) will be less effective at this sort of thing than Pakistanis?

    Has history led you to believe that it is the normal state of affairs for whites to be exploited by non-whites? Or is our current state the anomaly?

  127. @Clyde

    She’s crying, not because of the destruction of Swedish society, but because the elements of destruction have to be restricted.
     
    Pathetic dumb bunny with her degrees (In 2012 Romson completed a Ph.D in environmental law at Stockholm University.[2]) has her religious faith in open borders tested. Her magnetic attraction to Muslim males despite their track record of raping Swedish females. Gets added dumbness points for her faith in the global warming scam. Might be wrong but the internet shows she has no children or husband. We can see where her female-maternal energies have been displaced to.
    Classic case of loving humanity (saving refugee masses), it's just people (her children) she cannot stand.

    'We are...turning the Mediterranean into the new Auschwitz.' Sweden's deputy prime minister has sparked outrage after comparing the migrant crisis in the Mediterranean to the horrors of the Holocaust.
    In a televised party leader debate on Sunday evening, Asa Romson deplored the desperate.....
     

    LOL Ph.D. in environmental law

  128. @Alan D
    I think that Eastern Europe will prove to be even more important, in a positive way, than you have said. Western Europe and other western countries such as my own (Australia) are importing Moslems and some, such as France and Sweden, have reached a stage that is impossible, or at least very difficult, to recover from. Eastern Europe is much stronger and may become the standard bearer for western civilisation.

    One of the hallmarks of human behavior, as demonstrated by the Communist regimes, is that, if you’ve screwed yourself up, you simply cannot stand someone who hasn’t done so as well. You may appreciate them in the abstract, or have a tragic moment of clarity, but it would be so much better if he could be cut down to your level. So, for all your idealism about Eastern European standard bearers of civilization, I think that the West will have used its cultural, military, economic clout to ruin them as well long before its decay has reached the point where it is unable to project its will.

    [MORE]
    Maybe Hungary and Poland (especially Poland, with its homogeneity) have sufficient spine to resist, but that just means that they’ll be among the last to fall. The governments of Romania, Bulgaria and others are simply too dysfunctional and corrupt to show that kind of assabya with the citizenry over the foreign paymasters. And, even if they were, it takes time to create an internal defense industry, train appropriate military forces for territorial defense (as opposed to the expeditionary forces NATO has had us concentrate on), get the intelligence community on board with it and find the willpower to fashion an ideology in the here and now that will resist the siren song of soma and the political orgy-porgy and social centrifugal bumblepuppy.

    Don’t think that there isn’t a kulturkamp here already – Western NGOs or simply money pumps in Eastern Europe or in my country, despite already being a sincere Western cheerleader (because of Russian anxiety and an economic inferiority complex). This money goes towards teaching Roma to organize themselves to pursue their interests in government, hectoring us about our racism and crimethink, promoting abhorrent third wave feminism, childless consumerist lifestyles and all the hallmarks of Western goodthink even when it conflicts with the actual history of the country (leading to some pretty strong cognitive dissonance in certain feeble minds, like in relation to the refugee invasion). The actual standards of discussion in the halls of power is not much better, because everything is about moral posturing on European values. I’ve been slowly preaching to some people (including, gasp, women of my acquaintance) to get them to recognize reality, but it’s an uphill battle, even though we still have a core of conservative realism (the men don’t like the refugees, and the women want husbands and children and no one likes the Roma). One of them actually told me that her friends are literal SJWs and then reproduced for me the same lines on Whites, Western imperialism, colonialism, racism, exploitation that I keep reading about in Western sources. I really was appalled. I told her that we, of all people, should have some perspective on West vs the Rest and some realism.

    And, in addition to those NGO traitors (a similar infrastructure to what they have in Ukraine as well, though we NATO/EU Easterners have been good boys so there was no need to activate the big guns), you have the effing foreign corporations. Now, I’m economically liberal with a Nationalist bent, but the whole thing about female hypergamy, marriage mismatch, ostracism of males and male traits and indoctrination at work are taking place inside the foreign corps. I have plenty of friends working for various foreign corps whose local subsidiaries are serving an agenda without realizing it (their Romanian managers or expats are acting in good faith, I believe) and I ask them how much of the workforce is made up of women, how many are spinsters who are told to stay on the career track, whether they actually get the speeches on diversity and tolerance and inclusiveness while relegating men to the factory floor. I think we are simply too provincial to understand that we are being had.

    The battle will have to be won in the West. The first shots might be fired by unrepentant Eastern European barbarians, but it’s the West that has to win this thing or else we are all going down.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    What you need is a Ceaușescu without the Marxism and the freaky personality cult. He seemed to have some sensible nationalist policies towards the end of his career.

    The trouble with the former communist bloc is that it's stuck in a vicious cycle of economic dependency on Western Europe and the US. To free itself from the globalist-multicultural agenda that's being forced on Europe, it has to become economically independent. But to become economically independent, it has to sign up to the agenda being imposed by the multinational corporations, the NGOs, the EU, etc.
    , @Alan D
    Your detailed description of the situation in Eastern Europe was very useful to me.

    I can see that, while Eastern Europe is strong compared to the West (by which I mean western Europe, the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand), it is quite small. Therefore it cannot survive if the West does not, and this battle has to be won in the West. However, Eastern Europe does serve as an inspiration to the rest of us.

    A bit OT, last night I watched a TV program about the proposed construction of a mosque in the town of Bendigo, in the Australian state of Victoria. The presenter was apparently puzzled as to why there is a big controversy about the mosque, whereas a Buddhist temple has been erected in the same town with absolutely no complaints. I say "apparently puzzled" because the presenter would have known the reason, but had to stay within the boundaries of political correctness. In any case, it was Comedy Gold!
  129. @Romanian
    One of the hallmarks of human behavior, as demonstrated by the Communist regimes, is that, if you've screwed yourself up, you simply cannot stand someone who hasn't done so as well. You may appreciate them in the abstract, or have a tragic moment of clarity, but it would be so much better if he could be cut down to your level. So, for all your idealism about Eastern European standard bearers of civilization, I think that the West will have used its cultural, military, economic clout to ruin them as well long before its decay has reached the point where it is unable to project its will. Maybe Hungary and Poland (especially Poland, with its homogeneity) have sufficient spine to resist, but that just means that they'll be among the last to fall. The governments of Romania, Bulgaria and others are simply too dysfunctional and corrupt to show that kind of assabya with the citizenry over the foreign paymasters. And, even if they were, it takes time to create an internal defense industry, train appropriate military forces for territorial defense (as opposed to the expeditionary forces NATO has had us concentrate on), get the intelligence community on board with it and find the willpower to fashion an ideology in the here and now that will resist the siren song of soma and the political orgy-porgy and social centrifugal bumblepuppy.

    Don't think that there isn't a kulturkamp here already - Western NGOs or simply money pumps in Eastern Europe or in my country, despite already being a sincere Western cheerleader (because of Russian anxiety and an economic inferiority complex). This money goes towards teaching Roma to organize themselves to pursue their interests in government, hectoring us about our racism and crimethink, promoting abhorrent third wave feminism, childless consumerist lifestyles and all the hallmarks of Western goodthink even when it conflicts with the actual history of the country (leading to some pretty strong cognitive dissonance in certain feeble minds, like in relation to the refugee invasion). The actual standards of discussion in the halls of power is not much better, because everything is about moral posturing on European values. I've been slowly preaching to some people (including, gasp, women of my acquaintance) to get them to recognize reality, but it's an uphill battle, even though we still have a core of conservative realism (the men don't like the refugees, and the women want husbands and children and no one likes the Roma). One of them actually told me that her friends are literal SJWs and then reproduced for me the same lines on Whites, Western imperialism, colonialism, racism, exploitation that I keep reading about in Western sources. I really was appalled. I told her that we, of all people, should have some perspective on West vs the Rest and some realism.

    And, in addition to those NGO traitors (a similar infrastructure to what they have in Ukraine as well, though we NATO/EU Easterners have been good boys so there was no need to activate the big guns), you have the effing foreign corporations. Now, I'm economically liberal with a Nationalist bent, but the whole thing about female hypergamy, marriage mismatch, ostracism of males and male traits and indoctrination at work are taking place inside the foreign corps. I have plenty of friends working for various foreign corps whose local subsidiaries are serving an agenda without realizing it (their Romanian managers or expats are acting in good faith, I believe) and I ask them how much of the workforce is made up of women, how many are spinsters who are told to stay on the career track, whether they actually get the speeches on diversity and tolerance and inclusiveness while relegating men to the factory floor. I think we are simply too provincial to understand that we are being had.

    The battle will have to be won in the West. The first shots might be fired by unrepentant Eastern European barbarians, but it's the West that has to win this thing or else we are all going down.

    What you need is a Ceaușescu without the Marxism and the freaky personality cult. He seemed to have some sensible nationalist policies towards the end of his career.

    The trouble with the former communist bloc is that it’s stuck in a vicious cycle of economic dependency on Western Europe and the US. To free itself from the globalist-multicultural agenda that’s being forced on Europe, it has to become economically independent. But to become economically independent, it has to sign up to the agenda being imposed by the multinational corporations, the NGOs, the EU, etc.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    Economic dependency on Russia isn't so hot either, if you look at Moldova, Georgia or Tajikistan. Dependency, in general, is a bad thing, though (with a lot of personal experience) I think China is a more neutral player in terms of deriving political power from trade in relation to Central and Eastern European nations. But you are right when it comes to the big picture. Of course, the essence of being a smaller country is that, if you have good leadership and maintain a coherent front, it's a lot easier to take the big guys to the cleaners and have a positive balance of trade, technology transfers and other benefits. The elephant won't notice the mosquito sucking a bit of blood, not when there are other elephants around. But this would require solidarity and vision.

    I disagree with you about Ceaușescu, though I'm no expert (nice use of diacritics btw). He was an intellectual null controlled by his equally mediocre wife. The Nationalism you mentioned came from the middle ranks of professionals who called each other comrade and toed the party line but were actually Nationalistic technocrats (engineers, diplomats etc) who did what they could. The leaders liked that because they wanted a stage apart from that where Moscow's chorus reigned and the non-aligned movement delivered it. I read, about a year ago, the memoirs of one of our foremost Arabist diplomats (who opened our first embassy in Tripoli, Riyadh etc). The extent of the trade and engineering projects of Romania in the Arab world and Africa was significant relative to our size. He mentioned how he would gauge his chances and, whenever he thought that something would benefit Romania but be hard to get approval from the big man back home, he would manipulate things a bit to come out his way. He gave the example of Libya - rather than suggest some engineering project to the Dept of Foreign Trade or whatever it was called back home, he went to Gaddafi, convinced him it was his great idea and that everybody in Romania was on-board with it, then reported back home how Comrade Col. Gaddafi is reaching out to Comrade President Ceaușescu for a new opportunity to cooperate etc. Things like that. It was an entertaining read, though it throws into stark relief the extent of the economic mismanagement and lack of tools for oversight - we were bartering (!!!) Egyptian cotton in exchange for refining Egyptian oil and sending a lot of the resulting lubricants and whatnot back to Egypt. How do you even quantify that trade and see if it's a good deal? Malinvestment was rife.

    It's easy to say that a benevolent centrist leader with an authoritarian streak that leaves breathing room for civil society would be great, but where do you find such a man, and how do you set up the inevitable succession? I'm volunteering for the job, I'd be great at not being corrupt after a (short so far) lifetime of impecunious punditry. But I think that the "je ne says quoi" that makes for a healthy body politic is something you either have (and then lose when you're not paying attention, like the Anglo-Saxons and the Dutch) or you don't have at all. You can't really fake it, just like the Iraqis couldn't fake having a Western democracy. Ideally, we'd find a workable constitutional system that works within the Romanian mindset, as it is now (personality driven, cronyist, with a passive and uninformed electorate that despises politics for the most part, which is why a person of quality rarely enters politics, unless by accident), rather than cribbing off Western Europeans like the French and the Belgians as we have done since we first became a modern state. It's especially frustrating when you're in the middle, not an obvious low IQ fractious mess, but neither at the top of the heap with a long history of capital accumulation to burn off while you're finding your bearings again. You can see the potential from certain institutions, individuals, companies etc to actually achieve excellence (in tech, leadership, research, philosophy, civic mindedness), and then it gets bogged down by the cronyism, the indolence and the mediocrity.

  130. @Rob McX
    Modern white countries are the only ones who baulk at the idea of expelling large numbers of people. Non-white countries just throw people out when they no longer want them. After India and Pakistan-Bangladesh became independent states, around 10m people were forced to change countries. In 1983, Nigeria ordered all 2m+ illegal immigrants out of the country - and gave them exactly two weeks to leave.

    Most Third World immigrants in Europe are from cultures where mass expulsions and ethnic cleansing have been carried out to eliminate racial tensions and population problems. If and when these immigrants become a majority, things won't look to0 good for the indigenous European population.

    Modern white countries are the only ones who [balk] at the idea of expelling large numbers of people.

    Sure they do—right now. As Nasrudin wisely observed, a lot can happen in a year. You pointed out that it’s fairly common to eject foreigners from one’s homeland when they become troublesome. I listed a variety of ways that other nations have done so without incurring major international censure.

    Do you really think white people (once they’ve set their minds to it, of course) will be less effective at this sort of thing than Pakistanis?

    Has history led you to believe that it is the normal state of affairs for whites to be exploited by non-whites? Or is our current state the anomaly?

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    Europe has the means to repatriate non-European immigrants - even the means to do it humanely. It's the only way it can be saved at this stage. It could be achieved by the twin method of making life less attractive for immigrants here (cutting off welfare, repealing anti-discrimination laws to allow Europeans to hire and live among their own, etc.) and offering incentives for them to relocate to their ancestral countries. It only requires the will. First the governments have to be persuaded to stop letting them in.

    Thanks for the correction - I had a feeling I was misspelling it, but my (UK) Chrome Spellcheck rejected 'balk', for some reason.
    , @Former Darfur
    The nations that eject troublesome foreigners are nations, ruled by their own kind for the benefit of their own people. Not a hostile alien elite nor an outside conqueror.
  131. @Daniel Williams

    Modern white countries are the only ones who [balk] at the idea of expelling large numbers of people.
     
    Sure they do—right now. As Nasrudin wisely observed, a lot can happen in a year. You pointed out that it's fairly common to eject foreigners from one's homeland when they become troublesome. I listed a variety of ways that other nations have done so without incurring major international censure.

    Do you really think white people (once they've set their minds to it, of course) will be less effective at this sort of thing than Pakistanis?

    Has history led you to believe that it is the normal state of affairs for whites to be exploited by non-whites? Or is our current state the anomaly?

    Europe has the means to repatriate non-European immigrants – even the means to do it humanely. It’s the only way it can be saved at this stage. It could be achieved by the twin method of making life less attractive for immigrants here (cutting off welfare, repealing anti-discrimination laws to allow Europeans to hire and live among their own, etc.) and offering incentives for them to relocate to their ancestral countries. It only requires the will. First the governments have to be persuaded to stop letting them in.

    Thanks for the correction – I had a feeling I was misspelling it, but my (UK) Chrome Spellcheck rejected ‘balk’, for some reason.

  132. @Grumpy
    It means "horrible decisions."

    Swedish words that get a reaction from English speakers:

    slut = end
    beslut = decision
    fart = speed
    full fart = full speed
    utfart = exit
    avfart = offramp
    hår (sounds like "whore") = hair
    fack = union
    fick = got [Germans react to this one.]
    sex = six

    “Slutdestination Hoor” on some trains leaving CPH always makes me laugh.

  133. @Rob McX
    What you need is a Ceaușescu without the Marxism and the freaky personality cult. He seemed to have some sensible nationalist policies towards the end of his career.

    The trouble with the former communist bloc is that it's stuck in a vicious cycle of economic dependency on Western Europe and the US. To free itself from the globalist-multicultural agenda that's being forced on Europe, it has to become economically independent. But to become economically independent, it has to sign up to the agenda being imposed by the multinational corporations, the NGOs, the EU, etc.

    Economic dependency on Russia isn’t so hot either, if you look at Moldova, Georgia or Tajikistan. Dependency, in general, is a bad thing, though (with a lot of personal experience) I think China is a more neutral player in terms of deriving political power from trade in relation to Central and Eastern European nations. But you are right when it comes to the big picture. Of course, the essence of being a smaller country is that, if you have good leadership and maintain a coherent front, it’s a lot easier to take the big guys to the cleaners and have a positive balance of trade, technology transfers and other benefits. The elephant won’t notice the mosquito sucking a bit of blood, not when there are other elephants around. But this would require solidarity and vision.

    [MORE]

    I disagree with you about Ceaușescu, though I’m no expert (nice use of diacritics btw). He was an intellectual null controlled by his equally mediocre wife. The Nationalism you mentioned came from the middle ranks of professionals who called each other comrade and toed the party line but were actually Nationalistic technocrats (engineers, diplomats etc) who did what they could. The leaders liked that because they wanted a stage apart from that where Moscow’s chorus reigned and the non-aligned movement delivered it. I read, about a year ago, the memoirs of one of our foremost Arabist diplomats (who opened our first embassy in Tripoli, Riyadh etc). The extent of the trade and engineering projects of Romania in the Arab world and Africa was significant relative to our size. He mentioned how he would gauge his chances and, whenever he thought that something would benefit Romania but be hard to get approval from the big man back home, he would manipulate things a bit to come out his way. He gave the example of Libya – rather than suggest some engineering project to the Dept of Foreign Trade or whatever it was called back home, he went to Gaddafi, convinced him it was his great idea and that everybody in Romania was on-board with it, then reported back home how Comrade Col. Gaddafi is reaching out to Comrade President Ceaușescu for a new opportunity to cooperate etc. Things like that. It was an entertaining read, though it throws into stark relief the extent of the economic mismanagement and lack of tools for oversight – we were bartering (!!!) Egyptian cotton in exchange for refining Egyptian oil and sending a lot of the resulting lubricants and whatnot back to Egypt. How do you even quantify that trade and see if it’s a good deal? Malinvestment was rife.

    It’s easy to say that a benevolent centrist leader with an authoritarian streak that leaves breathing room for civil society would be great, but where do you find such a man, and how do you set up the inevitable succession? I’m volunteering for the job, I’d be great at not being corrupt after a (short so far) lifetime of impecunious punditry. But I think that the “je ne says quoi” that makes for a healthy body politic is something you either have (and then lose when you’re not paying attention, like the Anglo-Saxons and the Dutch) or you don’t have at all. You can’t really fake it, just like the Iraqis couldn’t fake having a Western democracy. Ideally, we’d find a workable constitutional system that works within the Romanian mindset, as it is now (personality driven, cronyist, with a passive and uninformed electorate that despises politics for the most part, which is why a person of quality rarely enters politics, unless by accident), rather than cribbing off Western Europeans like the French and the Belgians as we have done since we first became a modern state. It’s especially frustrating when you’re in the middle, not an obvious low IQ fractious mess, but neither at the top of the heap with a long history of capital accumulation to burn off while you’re finding your bearings again. You can see the potential from certain institutions, individuals, companies etc to actually achieve excellence (in tech, leadership, research, philosophy, civic mindedness), and then it gets bogged down by the cronyism, the indolence and the mediocrity.

    • Replies: @Rob McX

    Of course, the essence of being a smaller country is that, if you have good leadership and maintain a coherent front, it’s a lot easier to take the big guys to the cleaners and have a positive balance of trade, technology transfers and other benefits. The elephant won’t notice the mosquito sucking a bit of blood, not when there are other elephants around. But this would require solidarity and vision.

     

    That is an advantage, but no matter how small you are, you have to toe the globalist/multiculturalist line if you're dependent on your dealings with the US or the EU. Even Andorra wouldn't get away with skipping that. It'll be interesting to see how things work out for Orbán, and whether enough former communist countries will unite behind him to sway EU policy. Turning to trade with China might be an idea, but I suspect it would want the option of buying up huge swathes of its trading partners' industry (and bringing in Chinese workers to run them) as a quid pro quo.

    But I think that the “je ne says quoi” that makes for a healthy body politic is something you either have (and then lose when you’re not paying attention, like the Anglo-Saxons and the Dutch) or you don’t have at all.
     
    There is some genetic/cultural/historical combination of factors that ended up making these countries the most prosperous and stable the world has ever known. Unfortunately, that precious alchemy missed one ingredient - the will to preserve itself.
  134. @SPMoore8
    I think Amy Acker or Jennifer Love Hewitt should be cast for the " Åsa Romson Story" right now.

    Or Kathy Bates.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Or Kathy Bates.

    That would be for the wide screen version.
  135. Åsa Romson has previously also compared the refugee crisis to Auschwitz

    http://www.jta.org/2015/05/11/news-opinion/world/sweden-deputy-pm-apologizes-for-comparing-mediterranean-refugee-crisis-to-auschwitz

    and, perhaps somewhat insensitively, also managed to tweet

    “The very serious events in Paris right now could hamper the climate summit in December when more than 100 heads of government scheduled to participate.”

    http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/kritik-mot-romson-efter-tweet-om-paris/

    She probably should suspend her twitter account.

  136. @Pericles
    Or Kathy Bates.

    Or Kathy Bates.

    That would be for the wide screen version.

  137. @Anonymous Nephew
    I think Mexico is probably preferable as a future to Pakistan or Iraq. But I'd prefer the historic US or UK to either of those choices.

    OT, but I see that French-African comedian has been jailed in Belgium.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/25/french-comedian-dieudonne-prison-sentence-hate-speech

    "The controversial French comedian, Dieudonné M’bala M’bala, has been sentenced to two months in jail by a Belgian court for incitement to hatred over racist and antisemitic comments he made during a show. Dieudonné, who has faced similar cases in France, was also fined €9,000 (£6,300) by the court in Liège. He was not in court for the verdict.

    Eric Lemmens, a lawyer for Belgium’s Jewish organisations, told Agence France-Presse that the judgment “says that all the accusations against Dieudonné were established – both incitement to hatred and hate speech but also Holocaust denial”. The charges related to a show in Liège in 2012. “For me this is more than satisfying, this is a major victory,” he said. Earlier this month, the European court of human rights in Strasbourg ruled against Dieudonné in a separate case, deciding that freedom of speech did not protect “racist and antisemitic performances”."

    Unfortunately the Guardian doesn't report what the guy actually said.

    He doesn’t deny the Holocaust, he makes fun of it. Gives an award to Faurisson, dressed in concentration camp garb, stuff like that. It’s pretty obnoxious, but I don’t think it should be against the law.

  138. @Wilkey
    Oh, there are a few "delusional imbeciles" here, for sure, but we've discussed white birthrates here before and fully understand the need for whites to have more children. Steve has discussed it, too, in his posts about "affordable family formation."

    A handful of people here - your "delusional imbeciles" - don't think white birthrates matter. But they are a minority.

    No, I mean there is no reasonable way to deal with this short of ways that will get you a ring side seat to Nuremberg.

  139. @NOTA
    I think we've gotten s better class of Muslim immigrant than France and the UK. This is probably more luck than good policy, though we also do have a long history assimilating immigrants.

    we also do have a long history assimilating immigrants.

    Maybe that just means we’ve been burning longer.

    Immigration just means displacement of the natives, or reducing what the natives could have had.

  140. @Daniel Williams

    You delusional imbeciles and idiots realize that ... Brazil will look fairly white today compared to what America will look like in 2030 or 2040
     
    Any intelligent student of history knows that demographic trends, once set into motion, never reverse or change direction—they just become more so, for ever. I tell people all the time that there is no way that white people will ever be a numerical majority in North America. There are simply too many Indians here.

    I'm sad to say that there isn't any historical evidence suggesting that white people can shape civilizations to their liking or convince third-world types to do any one thing or another. Whites certainly haven't shown any aptitude for developing technology to achieve these sorts of goals. It's literally impossible for a race as docile as European-derived whites to exert its will on a large number of non-Europeans.

    Demographics determine this kind of thing. Doesn't anyone understand numbers?

    There are a lot fewer Serbs in Croatia now than there were in 1990. And Serbs have been living there for centuries.

  141. @Romanian
    Economic dependency on Russia isn't so hot either, if you look at Moldova, Georgia or Tajikistan. Dependency, in general, is a bad thing, though (with a lot of personal experience) I think China is a more neutral player in terms of deriving political power from trade in relation to Central and Eastern European nations. But you are right when it comes to the big picture. Of course, the essence of being a smaller country is that, if you have good leadership and maintain a coherent front, it's a lot easier to take the big guys to the cleaners and have a positive balance of trade, technology transfers and other benefits. The elephant won't notice the mosquito sucking a bit of blood, not when there are other elephants around. But this would require solidarity and vision.

    I disagree with you about Ceaușescu, though I'm no expert (nice use of diacritics btw). He was an intellectual null controlled by his equally mediocre wife. The Nationalism you mentioned came from the middle ranks of professionals who called each other comrade and toed the party line but were actually Nationalistic technocrats (engineers, diplomats etc) who did what they could. The leaders liked that because they wanted a stage apart from that where Moscow's chorus reigned and the non-aligned movement delivered it. I read, about a year ago, the memoirs of one of our foremost Arabist diplomats (who opened our first embassy in Tripoli, Riyadh etc). The extent of the trade and engineering projects of Romania in the Arab world and Africa was significant relative to our size. He mentioned how he would gauge his chances and, whenever he thought that something would benefit Romania but be hard to get approval from the big man back home, he would manipulate things a bit to come out his way. He gave the example of Libya - rather than suggest some engineering project to the Dept of Foreign Trade or whatever it was called back home, he went to Gaddafi, convinced him it was his great idea and that everybody in Romania was on-board with it, then reported back home how Comrade Col. Gaddafi is reaching out to Comrade President Ceaușescu for a new opportunity to cooperate etc. Things like that. It was an entertaining read, though it throws into stark relief the extent of the economic mismanagement and lack of tools for oversight - we were bartering (!!!) Egyptian cotton in exchange for refining Egyptian oil and sending a lot of the resulting lubricants and whatnot back to Egypt. How do you even quantify that trade and see if it's a good deal? Malinvestment was rife.

    It's easy to say that a benevolent centrist leader with an authoritarian streak that leaves breathing room for civil society would be great, but where do you find such a man, and how do you set up the inevitable succession? I'm volunteering for the job, I'd be great at not being corrupt after a (short so far) lifetime of impecunious punditry. But I think that the "je ne says quoi" that makes for a healthy body politic is something you either have (and then lose when you're not paying attention, like the Anglo-Saxons and the Dutch) or you don't have at all. You can't really fake it, just like the Iraqis couldn't fake having a Western democracy. Ideally, we'd find a workable constitutional system that works within the Romanian mindset, as it is now (personality driven, cronyist, with a passive and uninformed electorate that despises politics for the most part, which is why a person of quality rarely enters politics, unless by accident), rather than cribbing off Western Europeans like the French and the Belgians as we have done since we first became a modern state. It's especially frustrating when you're in the middle, not an obvious low IQ fractious mess, but neither at the top of the heap with a long history of capital accumulation to burn off while you're finding your bearings again. You can see the potential from certain institutions, individuals, companies etc to actually achieve excellence (in tech, leadership, research, philosophy, civic mindedness), and then it gets bogged down by the cronyism, the indolence and the mediocrity.

    Of course, the essence of being a smaller country is that, if you have good leadership and maintain a coherent front, it’s a lot easier to take the big guys to the cleaners and have a positive balance of trade, technology transfers and other benefits. The elephant won’t notice the mosquito sucking a bit of blood, not when there are other elephants around. But this would require solidarity and vision.

    That is an advantage, but no matter how small you are, you have to toe the globalist/multiculturalist line if you’re dependent on your dealings with the US or the EU. Even Andorra wouldn’t get away with skipping that. It’ll be interesting to see how things work out for Orbán, and whether enough former communist countries will unite behind him to sway EU policy. Turning to trade with China might be an idea, but I suspect it would want the option of buying up huge swathes of its trading partners’ industry (and bringing in Chinese workers to run them) as a quid pro quo.

    But I think that the “je ne says quoi” that makes for a healthy body politic is something you either have (and then lose when you’re not paying attention, like the Anglo-Saxons and the Dutch) or you don’t have at all.

    There is some genetic/cultural/historical combination of factors that ended up making these countries the most prosperous and stable the world has ever known. Unfortunately, that precious alchemy missed one ingredient – the will to preserve itself.

  142. She should be crying for the children of Malmo and all the rest that will follow.

  143. @Cryptogenic
    Allowing the integration of Middle Easterners will destroy the suicidal Nordic gene pool. Despite what white dindus say all of this nonsense begins with a malfunctioning white ethos.

    There is no immivasion. How can you be invaded if you welcome the invaders?

    None of this would be happening if the media didn’t lie through their teeth about the consequences like the massive scale of sexual violence being inflicted on 11-16 year olds by the invaders.

    A minority are betraying the majority.

    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    by the invaders
     
    "Invaders" is stupidly misleading. Call them New World Order Invitees if you need a label.
  144. Japan just announced that it is opening 12 million jobs to foreign workers, I heard it on the radio yesterday.

  145. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Auntie Analogue
    The natives up north there in Sweden
    built for themselves earthly Eden,
    then, their lips all snob-curled, they import the Third World,
    now Swedes fret their gene pool's been peed in.

    Swedes are so far gone culturally that the youngest generation sees everyone getting touched by the tar brush as pretty cool. That’s their ideal.

    It’s the enclaves of hostile Muslims menacing women and the rest of society that is disliked. But the idea of massive miscegenation especially with black Africans is really cool to them. They feel like they are finding religious salvation by getting that black guy notch. That’s my impression from 20-something Scandinavian girls.

  146. “…asibiya-destroying decadence besetting, say, Sweden.”

    “No more good must be attempted than the nation can bear.”

    - some old white dude around 2600 years ago. You’d think we’d have learned something since then about government, politics, and people, but you’d probably be wrong.

  147. Well, at least some people can count. If it took them that long to figure things out though – they might be in for some *interesting* times.

    How fun! Welp, if it’s a contest between whose the most *liberal* and whose still concerned about the existence of their country – let the contradictions be expanded!

  148. The Social Democrats were actually opposed to the ending of conscription in 2010, and are planning to bring it back, and there is widespread agreement among the Swedish politicians on this issue.

  149. @Romanian
    One of the hallmarks of human behavior, as demonstrated by the Communist regimes, is that, if you've screwed yourself up, you simply cannot stand someone who hasn't done so as well. You may appreciate them in the abstract, or have a tragic moment of clarity, but it would be so much better if he could be cut down to your level. So, for all your idealism about Eastern European standard bearers of civilization, I think that the West will have used its cultural, military, economic clout to ruin them as well long before its decay has reached the point where it is unable to project its will. Maybe Hungary and Poland (especially Poland, with its homogeneity) have sufficient spine to resist, but that just means that they'll be among the last to fall. The governments of Romania, Bulgaria and others are simply too dysfunctional and corrupt to show that kind of assabya with the citizenry over the foreign paymasters. And, even if they were, it takes time to create an internal defense industry, train appropriate military forces for territorial defense (as opposed to the expeditionary forces NATO has had us concentrate on), get the intelligence community on board with it and find the willpower to fashion an ideology in the here and now that will resist the siren song of soma and the political orgy-porgy and social centrifugal bumblepuppy.

    Don't think that there isn't a kulturkamp here already - Western NGOs or simply money pumps in Eastern Europe or in my country, despite already being a sincere Western cheerleader (because of Russian anxiety and an economic inferiority complex). This money goes towards teaching Roma to organize themselves to pursue their interests in government, hectoring us about our racism and crimethink, promoting abhorrent third wave feminism, childless consumerist lifestyles and all the hallmarks of Western goodthink even when it conflicts with the actual history of the country (leading to some pretty strong cognitive dissonance in certain feeble minds, like in relation to the refugee invasion). The actual standards of discussion in the halls of power is not much better, because everything is about moral posturing on European values. I've been slowly preaching to some people (including, gasp, women of my acquaintance) to get them to recognize reality, but it's an uphill battle, even though we still have a core of conservative realism (the men don't like the refugees, and the women want husbands and children and no one likes the Roma). One of them actually told me that her friends are literal SJWs and then reproduced for me the same lines on Whites, Western imperialism, colonialism, racism, exploitation that I keep reading about in Western sources. I really was appalled. I told her that we, of all people, should have some perspective on West vs the Rest and some realism.

    And, in addition to those NGO traitors (a similar infrastructure to what they have in Ukraine as well, though we NATO/EU Easterners have been good boys so there was no need to activate the big guns), you have the effing foreign corporations. Now, I'm economically liberal with a Nationalist bent, but the whole thing about female hypergamy, marriage mismatch, ostracism of males and male traits and indoctrination at work are taking place inside the foreign corps. I have plenty of friends working for various foreign corps whose local subsidiaries are serving an agenda without realizing it (their Romanian managers or expats are acting in good faith, I believe) and I ask them how much of the workforce is made up of women, how many are spinsters who are told to stay on the career track, whether they actually get the speeches on diversity and tolerance and inclusiveness while relegating men to the factory floor. I think we are simply too provincial to understand that we are being had.

    The battle will have to be won in the West. The first shots might be fired by unrepentant Eastern European barbarians, but it's the West that has to win this thing or else we are all going down.

    Your detailed description of the situation in Eastern Europe was very useful to me.

    I can see that, while Eastern Europe is strong compared to the West (by which I mean western Europe, the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand), it is quite small. Therefore it cannot survive if the West does not, and this battle has to be won in the West. However, Eastern Europe does serve as an inspiration to the rest of us.

    A bit OT, last night I watched a TV program about the proposed construction of a mosque in the town of Bendigo, in the Australian state of Victoria. The presenter was apparently puzzled as to why there is a big controversy about the mosque, whereas a Buddhist temple has been erected in the same town with absolutely no complaints. I say “apparently puzzled” because the presenter would have known the reason, but had to stay within the boundaries of political correctness. In any case, it was Comedy Gold!

  150. A morbidly fascinating tweet from the demographer Hans Rosling (who has been a big booster of the refugee disaster like most Swedish establishmentarians).

    • Replies: @anon
    mass immigration is a reward for female infanticide

    populations who kill their own female children need to move to other countries and share some of theirs

    Reasons for optimism are...
     
    Optimism isn't really the right word for it but the biggest reason why everything will go horribly wrong for the multicult is the blank slate is completely wrong and as a result the multicultists are completely wrong about everything and the more they push the multicult forward the worse things get until everyone can see it.

    Without massive media censorship this would have been obvious decades ago.
  151. Open defecation by “traumatized” scientists and engineers in playgrounds in Germany:

  152. @kaganovitch
    If you know German, Swedish is very similar (mutatis mutandis of course) Thus "Fruktansvärda beslut" Frucktan = Furcht(fear), Varda=wurdig (worthy),Beslut= Beschluss(decision)

    If you know German, Swedish is very similar (mutatis mutandis of course)

    Ja, det gör det.

    Thus “Fruktansvärda beslut” Frucktan = Furcht(fear), Varda=wurdig (worthy),Beslut= Beschluss(decision)

    The problem with that is that the German word for fruit is Frucht, suggesting that the Swedish “frukt” should mean “fruit”. which it in fact does (in addition to meaning “fear”). The better cognate is right here in English: fright.

  153. @Melendwyr
    Short of ethnic cleansing - which I cannot imagine the Swedes ever attempting, or the rest of the world permitting if it were attempted - what 'solution' do you imagine is possible?

    There is difference between despairing when hope remains and recognizing when the battle is lost. If the war is to be won, it's necessary to cope with reality, instead of unrealistic pessimism OR optimism.

    Europe is lost. They haven't driven off the cliff's edge yet, but they've passed the point of no return. No action that can be taken will stop the coming plummet.

    Short of ethnic cleansing – which I cannot imagine the Swedes ever attempting, or the rest of the world permitting if it were attempted – what ‘solution’ do you imagine is possible?

    The rest of the world? The government of Japan would permit it. As would the governments of China and Russia. And India, Indonesia, Nigeria, and Brazil. What you mean is that the US government would not permit it, as General Wesley Clark has made clear.

    Anyway, things change. Fifty years ago, Sweden was a comfortably and confidently “racist” society. Outside influence changed that. If that influence wanes, it will become possible for the Swedes to revert to the pursuit of national self-interest.

    Reasons for optimism are the Internet and the concomitant disintermediation of communications among Whites and the fact that the US government’s policies are causing waste, weakness, and rot in its own imperial apparatus. Things change.

    Dum spiro spero!

  154. @NOTA
    He really doesn't have the legal authority to prevent refugees coming into his state, nor should he.

    He really doesn’t have the legal authority to prevent refugees coming into his state, nor should he.

    The Constitution authorizes Congress “[t]o establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization”. But there is nothing in the US Constitution about immigration. He should and does have the authority to keep foreigners out of his state.

  155. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @P
    A morbidly fascinating tweet from the demographer Hans Rosling (who has been a big booster of the refugee disaster like most Swedish establishmentarians).

    mass immigration is a reward for female infanticide

    populations who kill their own female children need to move to other countries and share some of theirs

    Reasons for optimism are…

    Optimism isn’t really the right word for it but the biggest reason why everything will go horribly wrong for the multicult is the blank slate is completely wrong and as a result the multicultists are completely wrong about everything and the more they push the multicult forward the worse things get until everyone can see it.

    Without massive media censorship this would have been obvious decades ago.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Without massive media censorship this would have been obvious decades ago.
     
    Before massive media censorship. it *was* obvious decades ago.
  156. anon • Disclaimer says:

    With present flow of 90% male refugee children to Sweden, the Swedish Teen Sex Ratio will in 4 months be like in China: 120 boys/100 girls.

    If creating that kind of ratio among 11-24 year olds by immigration led to
    - violent conflict for females
    - gangs
    - mass sexual violence
    - forced prostitution
    and that in turn led to the ethnic cleansing of the indigenous peoples and the EU elites knew it, covered it up and carried on anyway

    then I think you’d have a reasonable case that was a breach of the genocide conventions.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    "With present flow of 90% male refugee children to Sweden, the Swedish Teen Sex Ratio will in 4 months be like in China: 120 boys/100 girls."

    Thing is, they aren't teens. They're grown men masquerading as teens, with the full sanction of the Swedish state. And that makes them more dangerous. Rape rates are going to skyrocket.

    I've already broken down the demographics for the expected number of German refugees. If Germany takes in 1.5 million migrants (according to their own government's estimates), and ~75% of those refugees are men ages 20-40 (which appears obvious from the pictures), then 10% of men in Germany ages 20-40 will be refugees arrived in the last year.

    Sweden has 9.6 million people, and a median age of 41.2 (40.2 for men, 42.2 for women). Thus about half of Sweden's population, for the purposes of reproduction, is effectively all but dead. Swedish life expectancy is 81.2 years. Assuming an even age distribution (1.25% of males are 20, 1.25% of males are 22, etc.) Sweden has about 1.2 million men between 20-40 years old. 200,000 refugees, 75% of whom are men of those ages, means that Sweden has imported 150,000 men in that range.

    150k/1350k = 11%

    11% of men ages 20-40 in Sweden are refugees who have arrived in the last year or so. Those are the numbers now. That's not a prediction. That's the situation as it exists today, based on rough estimates of the number of refugees Sweden has accepted.

    Given disparate birthrates and continued immigration, Sweden could easily be 30-40% Muslim within two generations. We will all mostly be alive to see it.

    Sweden (iirc) holds elections every four years. The next elections aren't slated until 2018. In the next three years Swedes will see a wave of news reports showing the impact of the catastrophically insane decision to allow in all these "refugees."

  157. @anon
    None of this would be happening if the media didn't lie through their teeth about the consequences like the massive scale of sexual violence being inflicted on 11-16 year olds by the invaders.

    A minority are betraying the majority.

    by the invaders

    “Invaders” is stupidly misleading. Call them New World Order Invitees if you need a label.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    It's not misleading at all. They are invaders in every sense of the word.
    , @anon
    The liberal minority are importing invaders to destroy the non-liberal majority.
    , @Clyde

    Syrian refugees “Invaders” is stupidly misleading. Call them New World Order Invitees if you need a label.
     
    "Invade the world, invite the world" - Steve Sailer 2012
  158. @Stephen R. Diamond

    by the invaders
     
    "Invaders" is stupidly misleading. Call them New World Order Invitees if you need a label.

    It’s not misleading at all. They are invaders in every sense of the word.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    "It’s not misleading at all. They are invaders in every sense of the word."

    True, and their generals have names like Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Wesley Clark, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Charles Schumer, Marco Rubio, George Soros...
    , @Stephen R. Diamond
    Every sense? Well, one sense - arguably the default sense - is that of an armed force.

    But the issue isn't primarily about semantics. It's a question, as I see it, of who is the fundamental enemy: the unwanted guests or the elites inviting them. "Invaders" is a call to direct engagement against the former.
  159. @Stephen R. Diamond

    by the invaders
     
    "Invaders" is stupidly misleading. Call them New World Order Invitees if you need a label.

    The liberal minority are importing invaders to destroy the non-liberal majority.

  160. @anon

    With present flow of 90% male refugee children to Sweden, the Swedish Teen Sex Ratio will in 4 months be like in China: 120 boys/100 girls.
     
    If creating that kind of ratio among 11-24 year olds by immigration led to
    - violent conflict for females
    - gangs
    - mass sexual violence
    - forced prostitution
    and that in turn led to the ethnic cleansing of the indigenous peoples and the EU elites knew it, covered it up and carried on anyway

    then I think you'd have a reasonable case that was a breach of the genocide conventions.

    “With present flow of 90% male refugee children to Sweden, the Swedish Teen Sex Ratio will in 4 months be like in China: 120 boys/100 girls.”

    Thing is, they aren’t teens. They’re grown men masquerading as teens, with the full sanction of the Swedish state. And that makes them more dangerous. Rape rates are going to skyrocket.

    I’ve already broken down the demographics for the expected number of German refugees. If Germany takes in 1.5 million migrants (according to their own government’s estimates), and ~75% of those refugees are men ages 20-40 (which appears obvious from the pictures), then 10% of men in Germany ages 20-40 will be refugees arrived in the last year.

    Sweden has 9.6 million people, and a median age of 41.2 (40.2 for men, 42.2 for women). Thus about half of Sweden’s population, for the purposes of reproduction, is effectively all but dead. Swedish life expectancy is 81.2 years. Assuming an even age distribution (1.25% of males are 20, 1.25% of males are 22, etc.) Sweden has about 1.2 million men between 20-40 years old. 200,000 refugees, 75% of whom are men of those ages, means that Sweden has imported 150,000 men in that range.

    150k/1350k = 11%

    11% of men ages 20-40 in Sweden are refugees who have arrived in the last year or so. Those are the numbers now. That’s not a prediction. That’s the situation as it exists today, based on rough estimates of the number of refugees Sweden has accepted.

    Given disparate birthrates and continued immigration, Sweden could easily be 30-40% Muslim within two generations. We will all mostly be alive to see it.

    Sweden (iirc) holds elections every four years. The next elections aren’t slated until 2018. In the next three years Swedes will see a wave of news reports showing the impact of the catastrophically insane decision to allow in all these “refugees.”

  161. @ben tillman
    It's not misleading at all. They are invaders in every sense of the word.

    “It’s not misleading at all. They are invaders in every sense of the word.”

    True, and their generals have names like Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Wesley Clark, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Charles Schumer, Marco Rubio, George Soros…

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    True, and their generals have names like Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Wesley Clark, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Charles Schumer, Marco Rubio, George Soros…
     
    Exactly. They are entering by force, even if the force is supplied by others.
  162. I think I’ve discovered the model for today’s Left: “Shakers today are mostly known for their celibate and communal lifestyle, pacifism, and their model of equality of the sexes.”

  163. @ben tillman
    It's not misleading at all. They are invaders in every sense of the word.

    Every sense? Well, one sense – arguably the default sense – is that of an armed force.

    But the issue isn’t primarily about semantics. It’s a question, as I see it, of who is the fundamental enemy: the unwanted guests or the elites inviting them. “Invaders” is a call to direct engagement against the former.

    • Agree: Ron Unz
    • Replies: @ben tillman
    I agree about who the fundamental enemy is, but the people in question still qualify as invaders.

    I didn't a reference to "armed force" in the definitions from any of the dictionaries I looked at. They did include definitions that say an invader enters by force, and the people in question are most certainly doing so. The fact that the force is supplied by their allies makes no difference. The dictionaries I looked at also included less-stringent definitions consistent with the etymology (vadere just meant "go" or "walk").

    Looking harder, I found other definitions that include the concept of armed or military force, but every dictionary includes broader definitions that clearly encompass these people.
  164. @Stephen R. Diamond

    by the invaders
     
    "Invaders" is stupidly misleading. Call them New World Order Invitees if you need a label.

    Syrian refugees “Invaders” is stupidly misleading. Call them New World Order Invitees if you need a label.

    “Invade the world, invite the world” – Steve Sailer 2012

  165. @Wilkey
    "It’s not misleading at all. They are invaders in every sense of the word."

    True, and their generals have names like Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Wesley Clark, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Charles Schumer, Marco Rubio, George Soros...

    True, and their generals have names like Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Wesley Clark, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Charles Schumer, Marco Rubio, George Soros…

    Exactly. They are entering by force, even if the force is supplied by others.

  166. @Stephen R. Diamond
    Every sense? Well, one sense - arguably the default sense - is that of an armed force.

    But the issue isn't primarily about semantics. It's a question, as I see it, of who is the fundamental enemy: the unwanted guests or the elites inviting them. "Invaders" is a call to direct engagement against the former.

    I agree about who the fundamental enemy is, but the people in question still qualify as invaders.

    I didn’t a reference to “armed force” in the definitions from any of the dictionaries I looked at. They did include definitions that say an invader enters by force, and the people in question are most certainly doing so. The fact that the force is supplied by their allies makes no difference. The dictionaries I looked at also included less-stringent definitions consistent with the etymology (vadere just meant “go” or “walk”).

    Looking harder, I found other definitions that include the concept of armed or military force, but every dictionary includes broader definitions that clearly encompass these people.

    • Replies: @Ron Unz

    They did include definitions that say an invader enters by force, and the people in question are most certainly doing so. The fact that the force is supplied by their allies makes no difference.
     
    Well, perhaps it's quibbling over silly verbiage, but I still disagree. Let's consider the example of the Visigothic hordes who entered Rome, a historical analogy much beloved by the most extreme anti-immigrationists.

    Were the Visigoths "invaders"? Hardly, since the Roman emperor authorized them to cross the border and enter. Perhaps he shouldn't have and I suspect he may have regretted his decision when they later defeated and killed him in battle. But he was the responsible legal authority, and since he told them they could come in, they obviously weren't invaders.

    Haven't Merkel and most of the other responsible EU governmental authorities authorized the entrance of all those million-plus refugees? Then they obviously aren't invaders. Perhaps if they tore a hole in Orban's fence and entered Hungary against his wishes, they could be called "invaders," depending upon the complex relationship between conflicting Hungarian and EU law; but as far as I know, they're going around Hungary because they're not wanted there. Just because governments are doing something you don't like doesn't make their actions illegal.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome


    www.thefreedictionary.com/invade

     

    Latin invādere=in
    + vādere to advance, go

    4. (tr) to enter and spread throughout, esp harmfully; pervade
    5. (Botany) (of plants, esp weeds) to become established in (a place to which they are not native)
    3. to enter and affect injuriously or destructively: viruses that invade the bloodstream.
    4. to intrude upon: to invade someone's privacy.
    6. to penetrate; spread into or over: City dwellers invaded the suburbs.
  167. @anon
    mass immigration is a reward for female infanticide

    populations who kill their own female children need to move to other countries and share some of theirs

    Reasons for optimism are...
     
    Optimism isn't really the right word for it but the biggest reason why everything will go horribly wrong for the multicult is the blank slate is completely wrong and as a result the multicultists are completely wrong about everything and the more they push the multicult forward the worse things get until everyone can see it.

    Without massive media censorship this would have been obvious decades ago.

    Without massive media censorship this would have been obvious decades ago.

    Before massive media censorship. it *was* obvious decades ago.

  168. @ben tillman
    I agree about who the fundamental enemy is, but the people in question still qualify as invaders.

    I didn't a reference to "armed force" in the definitions from any of the dictionaries I looked at. They did include definitions that say an invader enters by force, and the people in question are most certainly doing so. The fact that the force is supplied by their allies makes no difference. The dictionaries I looked at also included less-stringent definitions consistent with the etymology (vadere just meant "go" or "walk").

    Looking harder, I found other definitions that include the concept of armed or military force, but every dictionary includes broader definitions that clearly encompass these people.

    They did include definitions that say an invader enters by force, and the people in question are most certainly doing so. The fact that the force is supplied by their allies makes no difference.

    Well, perhaps it’s quibbling over silly verbiage, but I still disagree. Let’s consider the example of the Visigothic hordes who entered Rome, a historical analogy much beloved by the most extreme anti-immigrationists.

    Were the Visigoths “invaders”? Hardly, since the Roman emperor authorized them to cross the border and enter. Perhaps he shouldn’t have and I suspect he may have regretted his decision when they later defeated and killed him in battle. But he was the responsible legal authority, and since he told them they could come in, they obviously weren’t invaders.

    Haven’t Merkel and most of the other responsible EU governmental authorities authorized the entrance of all those million-plus refugees? Then they obviously aren’t invaders. Perhaps if they tore a hole in Orban’s fence and entered Hungary against his wishes, they could be called “invaders,” depending upon the complex relationship between conflicting Hungarian and EU law; but as far as I know, they’re going around Hungary because they’re not wanted there. Just because governments are doing something you don’t like doesn’t make their actions illegal.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    Just because governments are doing something you don’t like doesn’t make their actions illegal.
     
    True. Many things that governments do are stupid or immoral or destructive but still perfectly legal.

    Of course these actions by governments are often taken without informing the people or asking their consent which makes them dubiously democratic at best. But the voters could toss them out at the next election, and more often than not fail to do so. Many actions taken by voters are also stupid or immoral or destructive.
    , @Wilkey
    "But he was the responsible legal authority, and since he told them they could come in, they obviously weren’t invaders. Haven’t Merkel and most of the other responsible EU governmental authorities authorized the entrance of all those million-plus refugees?"

    I disagree. Historically, any large-scale movement of one group of people into another group's territory is considered an invasion. Not every invasion looks like a German blitzkrieg. Historians looking back at the massive demographic transformations currently taking place in America, the UK, Germany, Sweden, and elsewhere in Europe, will refer to them as invasions, aided and abetted by the betrayal of our own elected leaders (assuming the future has any historians who are allowed to be impartial about the issue).

    Mass immigration is at most tolerated in any country. In most Western countries perhaps 50% of the people, at best, support large-scale immigration. That level of support is reached only after incessant brainwashing by the establishment. Meanwhile, in Hungary, Viktor Orban's popularity is stratospheric thanks to his determined stand on the issue - one that works with the people's innate preferences, rather than against them.

    , @Clyde

    Just because governments are doing something you don’t like doesn’t make their actions illegal.
     
    Tell this to the Texas region Federal judges who ruled against Obama's amnesty for 5.5 million illegal alien invaders. They ruled that Obama administration actions are illegal.
    Next stop US Supreme Court but they will not have a ruling before Obama's exit.
  169. @Ron Unz

    They did include definitions that say an invader enters by force, and the people in question are most certainly doing so. The fact that the force is supplied by their allies makes no difference.
     
    Well, perhaps it's quibbling over silly verbiage, but I still disagree. Let's consider the example of the Visigothic hordes who entered Rome, a historical analogy much beloved by the most extreme anti-immigrationists.

    Were the Visigoths "invaders"? Hardly, since the Roman emperor authorized them to cross the border and enter. Perhaps he shouldn't have and I suspect he may have regretted his decision when they later defeated and killed him in battle. But he was the responsible legal authority, and since he told them they could come in, they obviously weren't invaders.

    Haven't Merkel and most of the other responsible EU governmental authorities authorized the entrance of all those million-plus refugees? Then they obviously aren't invaders. Perhaps if they tore a hole in Orban's fence and entered Hungary against his wishes, they could be called "invaders," depending upon the complex relationship between conflicting Hungarian and EU law; but as far as I know, they're going around Hungary because they're not wanted there. Just because governments are doing something you don't like doesn't make their actions illegal.

    Just because governments are doing something you don’t like doesn’t make their actions illegal.

    True. Many things that governments do are stupid or immoral or destructive but still perfectly legal.

    Of course these actions by governments are often taken without informing the people or asking their consent which makes them dubiously democratic at best. But the voters could toss them out at the next election, and more often than not fail to do so. Many actions taken by voters are also stupid or immoral or destructive.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    "Of course these actions by governments are often taken without informing the people or asking their consent which makes them dubiously democratic at best."

    Witness all the data being withheld by the government of the massive number of Central American "children" being allowed into our country over the last few years, or the fact that the German government withheld it's real estimates - 1.5 million, not 800,000 - of refugees who would arrive in the first year of Merkel's policy.

    What legitimate reason is there for a democratic government to withhold this sort of information from the voters?
  170. @Ron Unz

    They did include definitions that say an invader enters by force, and the people in question are most certainly doing so. The fact that the force is supplied by their allies makes no difference.
     
    Well, perhaps it's quibbling over silly verbiage, but I still disagree. Let's consider the example of the Visigothic hordes who entered Rome, a historical analogy much beloved by the most extreme anti-immigrationists.

    Were the Visigoths "invaders"? Hardly, since the Roman emperor authorized them to cross the border and enter. Perhaps he shouldn't have and I suspect he may have regretted his decision when they later defeated and killed him in battle. But he was the responsible legal authority, and since he told them they could come in, they obviously weren't invaders.

    Haven't Merkel and most of the other responsible EU governmental authorities authorized the entrance of all those million-plus refugees? Then they obviously aren't invaders. Perhaps if they tore a hole in Orban's fence and entered Hungary against his wishes, they could be called "invaders," depending upon the complex relationship between conflicting Hungarian and EU law; but as far as I know, they're going around Hungary because they're not wanted there. Just because governments are doing something you don't like doesn't make their actions illegal.

    “But he was the responsible legal authority, and since he told them they could come in, they obviously weren’t invaders. Haven’t Merkel and most of the other responsible EU governmental authorities authorized the entrance of all those million-plus refugees?”

    I disagree. Historically, any large-scale movement of one group of people into another group’s territory is considered an invasion. Not every invasion looks like a German blitzkrieg. Historians looking back at the massive demographic transformations currently taking place in America, the UK, Germany, Sweden, and elsewhere in Europe, will refer to them as invasions, aided and abetted by the betrayal of our own elected leaders (assuming the future has any historians who are allowed to be impartial about the issue).

    Mass immigration is at most tolerated in any country. In most Western countries perhaps 50% of the people, at best, support large-scale immigration. That level of support is reached only after incessant brainwashing by the establishment. Meanwhile, in Hungary, Viktor Orban’s popularity is stratospheric thanks to his determined stand on the issue – one that works with the people’s innate preferences, rather than against them.

  171. @dfordoom

    Just because governments are doing something you don’t like doesn’t make their actions illegal.
     
    True. Many things that governments do are stupid or immoral or destructive but still perfectly legal.

    Of course these actions by governments are often taken without informing the people or asking their consent which makes them dubiously democratic at best. But the voters could toss them out at the next election, and more often than not fail to do so. Many actions taken by voters are also stupid or immoral or destructive.

    “Of course these actions by governments are often taken without informing the people or asking their consent which makes them dubiously democratic at best.”

    Witness all the data being withheld by the government of the massive number of Central American “children” being allowed into our country over the last few years, or the fact that the German government withheld it’s real estimates – 1.5 million, not 800,000 – of refugees who would arrive in the first year of Merkel’s policy.

    What legitimate reason is there for a democratic government to withhold this sort of information from the voters?

  172. @ben tillman
    I agree about who the fundamental enemy is, but the people in question still qualify as invaders.

    I didn't a reference to "armed force" in the definitions from any of the dictionaries I looked at. They did include definitions that say an invader enters by force, and the people in question are most certainly doing so. The fact that the force is supplied by their allies makes no difference. The dictionaries I looked at also included less-stringent definitions consistent with the etymology (vadere just meant "go" or "walk").

    Looking harder, I found other definitions that include the concept of armed or military force, but every dictionary includes broader definitions that clearly encompass these people.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/invade

    Latin invādere=in
    + vādere to advance, go

    4. (tr) to enter and spread throughout, esp harmfully; pervade
    5. (Botany) (of plants, esp weeds) to become established in (a place to which they are not native)
    3. to enter and affect injuriously or destructively: viruses that invade the bloodstream.
    4. to intrude upon: to invade someone’s privacy.
    6. to penetrate; spread into or over: City dwellers invaded the suburbs.

  173. @Ron Unz

    They did include definitions that say an invader enters by force, and the people in question are most certainly doing so. The fact that the force is supplied by their allies makes no difference.
     
    Well, perhaps it's quibbling over silly verbiage, but I still disagree. Let's consider the example of the Visigothic hordes who entered Rome, a historical analogy much beloved by the most extreme anti-immigrationists.

    Were the Visigoths "invaders"? Hardly, since the Roman emperor authorized them to cross the border and enter. Perhaps he shouldn't have and I suspect he may have regretted his decision when they later defeated and killed him in battle. But he was the responsible legal authority, and since he told them they could come in, they obviously weren't invaders.

    Haven't Merkel and most of the other responsible EU governmental authorities authorized the entrance of all those million-plus refugees? Then they obviously aren't invaders. Perhaps if they tore a hole in Orban's fence and entered Hungary against his wishes, they could be called "invaders," depending upon the complex relationship between conflicting Hungarian and EU law; but as far as I know, they're going around Hungary because they're not wanted there. Just because governments are doing something you don't like doesn't make their actions illegal.

    Just because governments are doing something you don’t like doesn’t make their actions illegal.

    Tell this to the Texas region Federal judges who ruled against Obama’s amnesty for 5.5 million illegal alien invaders. They ruled that Obama administration actions are illegal.
    Next stop US Supreme Court but they will not have a ruling before Obama’s exit.

  174. Immigration, invasion…trying to distinguish between them is just hair-splitting. The important thing is that it’s been done against the will of the indigenous population. There is no political decision that should be taken with more care than what people (if any) you should allow to come and settle in your country. Each individual immigrant changes the country permanently in some minute way. The way our governments let millions of aliens through our borders unchecked is something that should be dealt with by trials for treason or genocide.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    In the late '70s the Texas legislature passed a law banning public education for children of illegals. A bare majority (5-4) of unelected SCOTUS justices overturned the law. In 1994, California (!!!) voted to deny public benefits to illegal immigrants. A single unelected federal judge overturned the law. A decade or so ago there was a proposed referendum in Colorado to fight illegal immigration. The state supreme court blocked it from even appearing on the ballot. In just the last few years Alabama and Arizona have passed laws attempting to stop illegal immigration. Federal judges have blocked most if not all of those laws.

    The people have voted to stop illegal immigration, time and time again. Our leaders, elected and unelected, have acted time and time again to deceive them and to dent them the right to be heard.

    Let's not pretend it isn't an invasion, because it sure as hell is.
  175. anon • Disclaimer says:

    If mass immigration leads to the slow ethnic cleansing of the indigenous populations – which it has in all western cities – then it’s an invasion.

    Although it’s the elites who are orchestrating this invasion in their war against the majority and most of the invaders themselves probably don’t see it that way but that is the purpose they are being imported for by the western elites – invasion.

  176. @Rob McX
    Immigration, invasion...trying to distinguish between them is just hair-splitting. The important thing is that it's been done against the will of the indigenous population. There is no political decision that should be taken with more care than what people (if any) you should allow to come and settle in your country. Each individual immigrant changes the country permanently in some minute way. The way our governments let millions of aliens through our borders unchecked is something that should be dealt with by trials for treason or genocide.

    In the late ’70s the Texas legislature passed a law banning public education for children of illegals. A bare majority (5-4) of unelected SCOTUS justices overturned the law. In 1994, California (!!!) voted to deny public benefits to illegal immigrants. A single unelected federal judge overturned the law. A decade or so ago there was a proposed referendum in Colorado to fight illegal immigration. The state supreme court blocked it from even appearing on the ballot. In just the last few years Alabama and Arizona have passed laws attempting to stop illegal immigration. Federal judges have blocked most if not all of those laws.

    The people have voted to stop illegal immigration, time and time again. Our leaders, elected and unelected, have acted time and time again to deceive them and to dent them the right to be heard.

    Let’s not pretend it isn’t an invasion, because it sure as hell is.

  177. @Kat Grey
    The white women who hook up with African men believe their mixed race daughters will resemble Halle Berry and their sons could become president of the Youessay. Gimme dat ding

    One has only to walk the sidewalks of many East Coast cities, especially certain boroughs of NY and downtown Philly, to see what the fruits of race mixing really look like.

    Virtually none of them resemble Halle Berry, who has the bone structure of a White woman covered in an attractive shade of black skin. Many are mottled, spotted, or the color of Similac after it has passed through the infant. Their facial features and cranial shapes are often bizarre, random IdentiKit combinations. One cannot help feeling truly sorry for some of these people, and really angry that their parents made the decisions they did.

    The attractive ones, so to speak, are the result of several generations of selective mating and are pretty rare.

    White girls need to have it imprinted on them that if they conceive a child with a black or mixed race man, he or she is much more likely to have a terrible time in life. It will be _her_ fault and she will have to live with what she did. Her liberal friends will act like she is cool and brag about her amongst their liberal friends, but they will inwardly be revolted if they have the slightest humanity left in them, and she will see it sooner or later. Women see what men don’t.

    I don’t have a daughter, but if I did I can’t imagine seeing something like this happen. I’d honestly prefer she be a lesbian. I know that will disgust some, but that’s the truth. Lesbians’ misery ends when they die. The conquistadors, who conquered the Mesoamericans and then mixed their bloodlines, have been dead four hundred years, and Mexico will still be a mess four hundred years from now.

    • Replies: @Kat Grey
    I agree and what's more the mixed race children always inherit the kinky Afro hair. Nobody can deem that attractive. Halle Berry's black father most likely had a lot of white ancestry in him as her features are only slightly African similar to Shari Belafonte's. I also find that the offspring of blacks and whites of Northern European ancestry are particularly unattractive especially when they have freckles combined with reddish Afros. Just compare Bob Marley to Lenny Kravitz. Both men's fathers were white but Kravitz looks better.
  178. @Daniel Williams

    Modern white countries are the only ones who [balk] at the idea of expelling large numbers of people.
     
    Sure they do—right now. As Nasrudin wisely observed, a lot can happen in a year. You pointed out that it's fairly common to eject foreigners from one's homeland when they become troublesome. I listed a variety of ways that other nations have done so without incurring major international censure.

    Do you really think white people (once they've set their minds to it, of course) will be less effective at this sort of thing than Pakistanis?

    Has history led you to believe that it is the normal state of affairs for whites to be exploited by non-whites? Or is our current state the anomaly?

    The nations that eject troublesome foreigners are nations, ruled by their own kind for the benefit of their own people. Not a hostile alien elite nor an outside conqueror.

  179. The refugees have been spread all over the country, except in Stockholm, which has contributed to the backlash.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/27/sweden-shut-doors-killed-dream-european-sanctuary

    I predict few refugees or convicts released from prison end up in NYC, SF, ect.

    • Replies: @George
    Many richer cities, however, receive almost no asylum seekers. Recent statistics show that some wealthy municipalities have only one asylum seeker per 1,000 residents, while in some poorer or rural towns the figure is closer to 100 per 1,000, and one has 117 refugees claimants per 1,000 people.
    http://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-migration-asylum-refugees-crisis-malmo-stockholm/
  180. @George
    The refugees have been spread all over the country, except in Stockholm, which has contributed to the backlash.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/27/sweden-shut-doors-killed-dream-european-sanctuary

    I predict few refugees or convicts released from prison end up in NYC, SF, ect.

    Many richer cities, however, receive almost no asylum seekers. Recent statistics show that some wealthy municipalities have only one asylum seeker per 1,000 residents, while in some poorer or rural towns the figure is closer to 100 per 1,000, and one has 117 refugees claimants per 1,000 people.

    http://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-migration-asylum-refugees-crisis-malmo-stockholm/

  181. Another way of putting it is what happens when Merkel’s mad invitation turns out to be impossible to implement and the various countries say no more.

  182. @Former Darfur
    One has only to walk the sidewalks of many East Coast cities, especially certain boroughs of NY and downtown Philly, to see what the fruits of race mixing really look like.

    Virtually none of them resemble Halle Berry, who has the bone structure of a White woman covered in an attractive shade of black skin. Many are mottled, spotted, or the color of Similac after it has passed through the infant. Their facial features and cranial shapes are often bizarre, random IdentiKit combinations. One cannot help feeling truly sorry for some of these people, and really angry that their parents made the decisions they did.

    The attractive ones, so to speak, are the result of several generations of selective mating and are pretty rare.

    White girls need to have it imprinted on them that if they conceive a child with a black or mixed race man, he or she is much more likely to have a terrible time in life. It will be _her_ fault and she will have to live with what she did. Her liberal friends will act like she is cool and brag about her amongst their liberal friends, but they will inwardly be revolted if they have the slightest humanity left in them, and she will see it sooner or later. Women see what men don't.

    I don't have a daughter, but if I did I can't imagine seeing something like this happen. I'd honestly prefer she be a lesbian. I know that will disgust some, but that's the truth. Lesbians' misery ends when they die. The conquistadors, who conquered the Mesoamericans and then mixed their bloodlines, have been dead four hundred years, and Mexico will still be a mess four hundred years from now.

    I agree and what’s more the mixed race children always inherit the kinky Afro hair. Nobody can deem that attractive. Halle Berry’s black father most likely had a lot of white ancestry in him as her features are only slightly African similar to Shari Belafonte’s. I also find that the offspring of blacks and whites of Northern European ancestry are particularly unattractive especially when they have freckles combined with reddish Afros. Just compare Bob Marley to Lenny Kravitz. Both men’s fathers were white but Kravitz looks better.

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