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Swarm of bees descends upon Vox Media office in Manhattan

In response, Eric Turkheimer explained in Vox: “Some Things Science Is Just Not Meant to Understand.”

Thank goodness the NYPD has its own Bee Wrangler and official Police Bee Hive.

Tonight, my wife was trying to watch the episode of Black Mirror (the British “digital Twilight Zone“) in which a swarm of robot bees, powered by social media mass indignation, attacks whomever Twitter hates the most at the moment:

But she kept falling asleep and dreaming about bees doing unlikely things, which is confusing when watching a Black Mirror show about bees doing unlikely things.

I sense that we are headed toward a Bee Moment in our culture, kind of like last year’s Gorilla Moment.

Jacques Louis-David’s Bee Moment

 
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  1. JohnnyD says:

    And according to Mathew Yglesias, the bees were extremely racist and antisemitic…

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    • Replies: @bored identity
    Yglesias knows his hives.

    bored identity still remembers vividly that swarming shul Saturday when he got taught about the Dangerous Outside World of WASPS and Pepes that was surrounding our tight-knit community:

    https://youtu.be/q1RB5nagawU?t=11m43s
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  2. guest says:

    Wasn’t this part of the plot for the Happening?

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Is it too late for The National to remake the video with shots of the Vox office in a cloud of bees?
    https://youtu.be/yfySK7CLEEg
    , @BenKenobi
    The Happening is one of the few times I saw a movie (in theater) and was genuinely offended in the old school fashion: "I want my money back."

    Plot synopsis: the trees emit, I dunno, pheromones that cause humans to commit suicide because muh global warming (spoiler alert). At one point the protagonists are fleeing a wind in the meadow.

    I could illustrate a few more ridiculous points but Youtube lacks the footage I'm looking for.

    It's a terrible movie.
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  3. Red Cross estimated number of bees at Vox Media to be 270,000. (subject to revision). :)

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  4. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @guest
    Wasn't this part of the plot for the Happening?

    Is it too late for The National to remake the video with shots of the Vox office in a cloud of bees?

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    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Was surprised by how much their lead singer looks like a young Brian Cranston.
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  5. BenKenobi says:

    Obligatory:

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  6. A bee moment would be a result of the formation of a global brain.

    Our brains have two hemispheres, one more logical then the other.

    The global brain appears to have a similar dichotomy.

    The question for us would be, which side controls the bees?

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  7. Luke Lea says:

    A Samantha Bee moment.

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  8. BenKenobi says:
    @guest
    Wasn't this part of the plot for the Happening?

    The Happening is one of the few times I saw a movie (in theater) and was genuinely offended in the old school fashion: “I want my money back.”

    Plot synopsis: the trees emit, I dunno, pheromones that cause humans to commit suicide because muh global warming (spoiler alert). At one point the protagonists are fleeing a wind in the meadow.

    I could illustrate a few more ridiculous points but Youtube lacks the footage I’m looking for.

    It’s a terrible movie.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The Happening is an allergy allegory:

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/06/what-happening-is-actually-about.html

    , @guest
    A group of people attempting to outrun the wind may be the silliest possible premise for a horror movie sequence.
    , @Anon
    I thought The Happening was about a bunch of hippies who kidnap Anthony Quinn. Unfortunately no bees were involved, but fortunately Faye Dunaway was.
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  9. @BenKenobi
    The Happening is one of the few times I saw a movie (in theater) and was genuinely offended in the old school fashion: "I want my money back."

    Plot synopsis: the trees emit, I dunno, pheromones that cause humans to commit suicide because muh global warming (spoiler alert). At one point the protagonists are fleeing a wind in the meadow.

    I could illustrate a few more ridiculous points but Youtube lacks the footage I'm looking for.

    It's a terrible movie.
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    • Replies: @Sunbeam
    I think there is ... not sure a social class divide, or personal taste. In the end it's gotta be genes though (ain't it all?).

    But movies that are allegories. Just do not want, do not care for. I know what an allegory is. I can even deal with questions involving them on the SAT. But why do I want to spend two hours being allegorized by someone?

    It possibly could work. I'm sure there are some that can grab you. But in general having a couple of levels of indirection from what your movie is really about isn't a lot of people's cup of tea.

    No idea what the attendance was for that flick, but I imagine most of the viewers totally missed the allegory, taking it for what was on the label (whatever that was).
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  10. jJay says:

    While Steve mocks NYC and Manhattan, he lives in LA. Or maybe not. The City of Los Angeles has very peculiar boundaries. You can live at the corner of Raymond Chandler Blvd and Michael Connelly Circle without being within the City limits. The Los Angeles area is filled with small towns and tiny unincorporated areas. But when the bee swarm comes to Steve’s house he’ll get religion! or tool over the Home Depot for some insecticide.

    It’s ant season here in the nearby SGV. So it’s wipe the counter top clean with bleach after each meal time.

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    Do I live in Los Angeles or Burbank?

    Good question.
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  11. guest says:
    @BenKenobi
    The Happening is one of the few times I saw a movie (in theater) and was genuinely offended in the old school fashion: "I want my money back."

    Plot synopsis: the trees emit, I dunno, pheromones that cause humans to commit suicide because muh global warming (spoiler alert). At one point the protagonists are fleeing a wind in the meadow.

    I could illustrate a few more ridiculous points but Youtube lacks the footage I'm looking for.

    It's a terrible movie.

    A group of people attempting to outrun the wind may be the silliest possible premise for a horror movie sequence.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    M. Night Shyamalan's The Happening and Spike Lee's She Hate Me are just about the two worst movies I've seen by brand name directors whom I generally like.
    , @Olorin
    It was intended as mythopoetic, not logical.

    See Hosea 8:7 I think it is.
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    Harambee did nothing wrong.

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  13. @guest
    A group of people attempting to outrun the wind may be the silliest possible premise for a horror movie sequence.

    M. Night Shyamalan’s The Happening and Spike Lee’s She Hate Me are just about the two worst movies I’ve seen by brand name directors whom I generally like.

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    • Replies: @guest
    She Hate Me, the one about how black men are so good at sex lesbians will pay them for it? Or, rather, about how lesbians will pay to be impregnated by high-class blacks and resent that fact enough to yell at them during the sex act. But eventually will be won over, because black men are just that good.

    I understand lesbians were offended, but they got off easy because this movie makes them look attractive.

    The truly bizarre aspect was the frequent references to the security guard who foiled the Watergate break-in. Which is supposed to be a sad story because...I don't know. He should've got a lifelong pension and unending fame instead of just being a security guard?
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  14. guest says:
    @Steve Sailer
    M. Night Shyamalan's The Happening and Spike Lee's She Hate Me are just about the two worst movies I've seen by brand name directors whom I generally like.

    She Hate Me, the one about how black men are so good at sex lesbians will pay them for it? Or, rather, about how lesbians will pay to be impregnated by high-class blacks and resent that fact enough to yell at them during the sex act. But eventually will be won over, because black men are just that good.

    I understand lesbians were offended, but they got off easy because this movie makes them look attractive.

    The truly bizarre aspect was the frequent references to the security guard who foiled the Watergate break-in. Which is supposed to be a sad story because…I don’t know. He should’ve got a lifelong pension and unending fame instead of just being a security guard?

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Yup, Spike Lee's revealing worst:

    After its glittering launch in the Eighties, Spike Lee’s career has been in
    steady decline. Perhaps the joy went out of Spike’s filmmaking in 1991
    when his father and employee, score composer Bill Lee, was arrested for
    heroin possession, shattering Spike’s dream of being the patriarch of
    the kind of dynastic family enterprise that is rare among
    African-Americans. He replaced his dad with Terence Blanchard, whose
    morose minor chord maunderings have undermined what little fun remained
    in Spike’s later films.
    
    Spike reaches rock bottom in his new "She Hate Me" (debuting Friday,
    June 30), one of the more embarrassing movies ever made by a famous
    director. Critics will no doubt rationalize "She Hate Me" as a
    satire on ill-informed black male attitudes, but are we laughing with
    Spike, or at him? For Spike appears to espouse those knuckleheaded views
    in dead earnest.
    
    For white conservatives, Spike has always been an intriguing and disturbing
    photographic negative because, like his hero Malcolm X, he is a classic
    grumpy social reactionary: nepotistic, capitalistic, elitist, sexist,
    and racist. In "She Hate Me," Spike takes his stand slightly
    to the right of Shaka Zulu as he endorses family values, extremely
    traditional African family values: namely, polygamy. Hey, if gays can
    get married, Spike implicitly asks, why can’t a Big Man have as many
    wives as he can keep amused?
    
    A very interesting question, one that is likely to come up more and more
    in the future.

    , @Pericles
    The role of NYC black lesbian inseminator is actually currently filled by one Ari Nagel, a tall Jewish math professor. As far as I could tell from the article, said lesbians did not yell angrily at him but sued for child support to the extent possible.

    http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/professor-who-donates-sperm-in-city-bathrooms-has-sired-22-kids/
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  15. @JohnnyD
    And according to Mathew Yglesias, the bees were extremely racist and antisemitic...

    Yglesias knows his hives.

    bored identity still remembers vividly that swarming shul Saturday when he got taught about the Dangerous Outside World of WASPS and Pepes that was surrounding our tight-knit community:

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  16. “…last year’s Gorilla Moment.”

    Leave Harambe alone, Sailer!

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  17. Kyle says:

    What about the scene in “day after tomorrow,” where climate change is chasing them down the hallway.

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  18. Tom-in-VA says:

    Are bees victims of stereotype threat? Perhaps they sting people because everyone expects them to.

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  19. Tumultuous times have had Bee Moments before:

    http://thehoneybeeconservancy.org/2011/05/05/napoleon-bees/

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    Thanks, Bonaparte's Bees.
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  20. @guest
    She Hate Me, the one about how black men are so good at sex lesbians will pay them for it? Or, rather, about how lesbians will pay to be impregnated by high-class blacks and resent that fact enough to yell at them during the sex act. But eventually will be won over, because black men are just that good.

    I understand lesbians were offended, but they got off easy because this movie makes them look attractive.

    The truly bizarre aspect was the frequent references to the security guard who foiled the Watergate break-in. Which is supposed to be a sad story because...I don't know. He should've got a lifelong pension and unending fame instead of just being a security guard?

    Yup, Spike Lee’s revealing worst:

    After its glittering launch in the Eighties, Spike Lee’s career has been in
    steady decline. Perhaps the joy went out of Spike’s filmmaking in 1991
    when his father and employee, score composer Bill Lee, was arrested for
    heroin possession, shattering Spike’s dream of being the patriarch of
    the kind of dynastic family enterprise that is rare among
    African-Americans. He replaced his dad with Terence Blanchard, whose
    morose minor chord maunderings have undermined what little fun remained
    in Spike’s later films.
    
    Spike reaches rock bottom in his new “She Hate Me” (debuting Friday,
    June 30), one of the more embarrassing movies ever made by a famous
    director. Critics will no doubt rationalize “She Hate Me” as a
    satire on ill-informed black male attitudes, but are we laughing with
    Spike, or at him? For Spike appears to espouse those knuckleheaded views
    in dead earnest.
    
    For white conservatives, Spike has always been an intriguing and disturbing
    photographic negative because, like his hero Malcolm X, he is a classic
    grumpy social reactionary: nepotistic, capitalistic, elitist, sexist,
    and racist. In “She Hate Me,” Spike takes his stand slightly
    to the right of Shaka Zulu as he endorses family values, extremely
    traditional African family values: namely, polygamy. Hey, if gays can
    get married, Spike implicitly asks, why can’t a Big Man have as many
    wives as he can keep amused?
    
    A very interesting question, one that is likely to come up more and more
    in the future.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius

    Critics will no doubt rationalize “She Hate Me” as a
    satire on ill-informed black male attitudes, but are we laughing with
    Spike, or at him? For Spike appears to espouse those knuckleheaded views
    in dead earnest.
     
    Ill-informed or too informed?
    , @Triumph104
    Spike Lee used anti-Semitism to get the gentile director Norman Jewison removed from the movie Malcolm X. Shortly after Spike's mother died in 1976, Bill Lee married a Jewish woman, who has sported dreadlocks.

    Part of the split between father and son had to do with Spike refusing to help pay bills on his childhood family brownstone. A few years ago, after Spike ranted about gentrification in his old neighborhood, while simultaneously trying to sell his current home for $32 million, his childhood home was vandalized.

    I am surprised to see that Bill Lee is still alive. Father and son did make up to some extent, which probably explains why Spike abruptly stopped talking about gentrification. Spike's father, step-mother, and half-brother still lived in the Brooklyn brownstone at the time of vandalization.

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  21. @jJay
    While Steve mocks NYC and Manhattan, he lives in LA. Or maybe not. The City of Los Angeles has very peculiar boundaries. You can live at the corner of Raymond Chandler Blvd and Michael Connelly Circle without being within the City limits. The Los Angeles area is filled with small towns and tiny unincorporated areas. But when the bee swarm comes to Steve's house he'll get religion! or tool over the Home Depot for some insecticide.

    It's ant season here in the nearby SGV. So it's wipe the counter top clean with bleach after each meal time.

    Do I live in Los Angeles or Burbank?

    Good question.

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    • Replies: @iffen
    Do I live in Los Angeles or Burbank?

    In the Age of Trans shouldn't where one "lives" be detached from a physical presence at a particular place?
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  22. @The Man From K Street
    Tumultuous times have had Bee Moments before:
    http://thehoneybeeconservancy.org/2011/05/05/napoleon-bees/

    Thanks, Bonaparte’s Bees.

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  23. @Steve Sailer
    Yup, Spike Lee's revealing worst:

    After its glittering launch in the Eighties, Spike Lee’s career has been in
    steady decline. Perhaps the joy went out of Spike’s filmmaking in 1991
    when his father and employee, score composer Bill Lee, was arrested for
    heroin possession, shattering Spike’s dream of being the patriarch of
    the kind of dynastic family enterprise that is rare among
    African-Americans. He replaced his dad with Terence Blanchard, whose
    morose minor chord maunderings have undermined what little fun remained
    in Spike’s later films.
    
    Spike reaches rock bottom in his new "She Hate Me" (debuting Friday,
    June 30), one of the more embarrassing movies ever made by a famous
    director. Critics will no doubt rationalize "She Hate Me" as a
    satire on ill-informed black male attitudes, but are we laughing with
    Spike, or at him? For Spike appears to espouse those knuckleheaded views
    in dead earnest.
    
    For white conservatives, Spike has always been an intriguing and disturbing
    photographic negative because, like his hero Malcolm X, he is a classic
    grumpy social reactionary: nepotistic, capitalistic, elitist, sexist,
    and racist. In "She Hate Me," Spike takes his stand slightly
    to the right of Shaka Zulu as he endorses family values, extremely
    traditional African family values: namely, polygamy. Hey, if gays can
    get married, Spike implicitly asks, why can’t a Big Man have as many
    wives as he can keep amused?
    
    A very interesting question, one that is likely to come up more and more
    in the future.

    Critics will no doubt rationalize “She Hate Me” as a
    satire on ill-informed black male attitudes, but are we laughing with
    Spike, or at him? For Spike appears to espouse those knuckleheaded views
    in dead earnest.

    Ill-informed or too informed?

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  24. Tulip says:

    Yellow and Black is more of a European thing. In the States, it is more likely to be misunderstood or misappropriated.

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  25. Tulip says:

    H TAN H ENI TAE

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  26. OT: Tom Boswell really doesn’t like the new US Open golf course.

    “So why are we here at Erin Hills? It has no track record, no visual variety, no water in play and as little natural grandeur as a nice piece of rolling farmland could offer, once you scoured off its natural trees and left no vegetation more than hip high to create what the USGA calls “a heartland course.” Has anyone ever heard of a “heartland course” before, or was that invented, too?”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/erin-hills-is-heartland-course-with-lots-of-land-but-not-much-to-heart/2017/06/15/7064a046-522c-11e7-be25-3a519335381c_story.html?utm_term=.8022afddcade

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    The Kettle Moraine isn't to everyone's taste.

    Thank the gods.
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  27. flayotters says: • Website

    “Some Things Science Is Just Not Meant to Understand.” But heaven help you if you question anything Science has determined it does understand.

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  28. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    You can never tell about bees. Didn’t somebody write a book or a short story about how the animal kingdom turns on humanity in retaliation for all that has gone wrong in the world?

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    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    Yep, it's been done before, in California too!

    https://youtu.be/-PhmYfBK13M
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  29. Relevant reactionary reading recommendation: The Glass Bees, Ernst Juenger.

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    Great UNREP line. Thanks.

    I've been trying to remember the name of that SF novel since the other day when some wag somewhere posted a meme suggesting that the Vox Bees were dispatched by Karen Pence.

    I think of Zapparoni's employees/workshop multiple times each week in my interactions with IT people/units.

    http://cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/neoreaction/Ernst%20Junger/The-Glass-Bees-by-Ernst-Juenger.pdf

    Summer brain turns to landwork (lots of physicality) and then winter language brain works either not at all or by downloading fully formed large blocks of text during its appointed Writing Times.

    Either way I have a helluva time with middle level factoid recall of this sort, even though I must have thought about it a dozen times out on field and thought, "Gotta search on the term bees that snip off ears german science fiction."

    So it's extra interesting to see your recommendation today, CP/M.

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  30. iffen says:

    Apparently these were not Africanized bees which seems to indicate that God does not have a sense of humor after all. That, or maybe we are now cosmically ironic on our own and he thinks that he doesn’t need to help.

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  31. iffen says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Do I live in Los Angeles or Burbank?

    Good question.

    Do I live in Los Angeles or Burbank?

    In the Age of Trans shouldn’t where one “lives” be detached from a physical presence at a particular place?

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  32. @Steve Sailer
    Yup, Spike Lee's revealing worst:

    After its glittering launch in the Eighties, Spike Lee’s career has been in
    steady decline. Perhaps the joy went out of Spike’s filmmaking in 1991
    when his father and employee, score composer Bill Lee, was arrested for
    heroin possession, shattering Spike’s dream of being the patriarch of
    the kind of dynastic family enterprise that is rare among
    African-Americans. He replaced his dad with Terence Blanchard, whose
    morose minor chord maunderings have undermined what little fun remained
    in Spike’s later films.
    
    Spike reaches rock bottom in his new "She Hate Me" (debuting Friday,
    June 30), one of the more embarrassing movies ever made by a famous
    director. Critics will no doubt rationalize "She Hate Me" as a
    satire on ill-informed black male attitudes, but are we laughing with
    Spike, or at him? For Spike appears to espouse those knuckleheaded views
    in dead earnest.
    
    For white conservatives, Spike has always been an intriguing and disturbing
    photographic negative because, like his hero Malcolm X, he is a classic
    grumpy social reactionary: nepotistic, capitalistic, elitist, sexist,
    and racist. In "She Hate Me," Spike takes his stand slightly
    to the right of Shaka Zulu as he endorses family values, extremely
    traditional African family values: namely, polygamy. Hey, if gays can
    get married, Spike implicitly asks, why can’t a Big Man have as many
    wives as he can keep amused?
    
    A very interesting question, one that is likely to come up more and more
    in the future.

    Spike Lee used anti-Semitism to get the gentile director Norman Jewison removed from the movie Malcolm X. Shortly after Spike’s mother died in 1976, Bill Lee married a Jewish woman, who has sported dreadlocks.

    Part of the split between father and son had to do with Spike refusing to help pay bills on his childhood family brownstone. A few years ago, after Spike ranted about gentrification in his old neighborhood, while simultaneously trying to sell his current home for $32 million, his childhood home was vandalized.

    I am surprised to see that Bill Lee is still alive. Father and son did make up to some extent, which probably explains why Spike abruptly stopped talking about gentrification. Spike’s father, step-mother, and half-brother still lived in the Brooklyn brownstone at the time of vandalization.

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    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    A goy named Jewison ... working in Hollywood.

    Goy is so much handier a word than gentile, and not only because it's shorter. For one thing, it rhymes with boy, joy, toy, destroy, hoi polloi, Deanna Troi, and Sherman McCoy.
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  33. Pat Boyle says:

    Actually the term ‘robot bees’ is probably redundant. Bees are already robots.

    My wife and I visited her parents in Canada for Christmas. The old man was a bee keeper. There was a hive in the back yard and of course the yard was covered in snow. It was also pretty cold.

    Near the hive there were all these little dead bees – black spots in the pristine snow. Apparently the bees spend the whole long Canadian winter shivering in the hive to keep the temperature up. Then every day or so, they send one of their compatriots outside to see if it’s Spring yet. The bee flies out and freezes to death in mid air. So there is a trail of frozen bees leading away from the hive. The bees were only getting about five feet on average before they dropped into the snow.

    This was late December. Canadian winters are long. There were going to be a lot more frozen bees in the snow before the first flowers boomed.

    It’s kinda creepy to think about. They don’t seem like animals at all – more like little robots.

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    • Replies: @MW
    Sounds like you were too late to see the drone massacre. In cold climates, the workers kick all the drones out of the hive in the late fall, and the drones then starve to death. Nice photo and explanation here:

    https://beeinformed.org/2013/11/08/why-your-drones-are-getting-the-boot/

    Bees are so mind-bogglingly different from mammals. When anthropomorphizing bees, I tend to think of the hive as the organism, and individual bees as organs. The hive does not give a damn about an individual worker or drone.
    , @Daniel Chieh
    In bees, I see the future of humanity.
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  34. MW says:
    @Pat Boyle
    Actually the term 'robot bees' is probably redundant. Bees are already robots.

    My wife and I visited her parents in Canada for Christmas. The old man was a bee keeper. There was a hive in the back yard and of course the yard was covered in snow. It was also pretty cold.

    Near the hive there were all these little dead bees - black spots in the pristine snow. Apparently the bees spend the whole long Canadian winter shivering in the hive to keep the temperature up. Then every day or so, they send one of their compatriots outside to see if it's Spring yet. The bee flies out and freezes to death in mid air. So there is a trail of frozen bees leading away from the hive. The bees were only getting about five feet on average before they dropped into the snow.

    This was late December. Canadian winters are long. There were going to be a lot more frozen bees in the snow before the first flowers boomed.

    It's kinda creepy to think about. They don't seem like animals at all - more like little robots.

    Sounds like you were too late to see the drone massacre. In cold climates, the workers kick all the drones out of the hive in the late fall, and the drones then starve to death. Nice photo and explanation here:

    https://beeinformed.org/2013/11/08/why-your-drones-are-getting-the-boot/

    Bees are so mind-bogglingly different from mammals. When anthropomorphizing bees, I tend to think of the hive as the organism, and individual bees as organs. The hive does not give a damn about an individual worker or drone.

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    Hmmm, sounds a lot like capitalism, socialism, communism.
    , @Bill Jones
    You should read the late great Joseph Sobran on The Hive

    http://www.sobran.com/hive/
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  35. CJ says:

    Yo Steve, at our house my wife watches Black Mirror and it puts me to sleep.

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  36. I’m sorry, but someone must ask this: Is there absolute verification it wasn’t just Hillary acting alone?

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  37. Sunbeam says:
    @Steve Sailer
    The Happening is an allergy allegory:

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2008/06/what-happening-is-actually-about.html

    I think there is … not sure a social class divide, or personal taste. In the end it’s gotta be genes though (ain’t it all?).

    But movies that are allegories. Just do not want, do not care for. I know what an allegory is. I can even deal with questions involving them on the SAT. But why do I want to spend two hours being allegorized by someone?

    It possibly could work. I’m sure there are some that can grab you. But in general having a couple of levels of indirection from what your movie is really about isn’t a lot of people’s cup of tea.

    No idea what the attendance was for that flick, but I imagine most of the viewers totally missed the allegory, taking it for what was on the label (whatever that was).

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    I don't mind an allegory, but the thing symbolized ought to have something interesting to it. "People have allergies" is extremely underwhelming as a hidden meaning, or the point of a parable.
    , @Autochthon
    Even more annoying – and a cause of the ill-advised attempts you rightly deplore – is that people try to make allegories, or to deem things allegories, which are not, on account of allegories are a somewhat nuanced thing most people don't understand but which they enjoy invoking because it's accepted as a sign they are intelligent (cf. irony and Morissette, Alanis...) Or, rather (and this goes to the nuance, most people do not understand that allegory has come to have (at least) two meanings, which they conflate, creating the deplorable and insufferable one kind in misguided efforts to create the meaningful (and nearly inevitable, in art, at least art that is any good) second sort.

    "As for any inner meaning or message, it has in the intention of the author none. It is neither allegorical nor topical…. I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence." — J.R.R. Tolkien's forward to The Lord of the Rings

    "[The Lord of the Rings not an allegory of Atomic power, but of Power (exerted for Domination). I do not think that even Power or Domination is the real centre of my story…. The real theme for me is about something much more permanent and difficult: Death and Immortality." – J.R.R. Tolkien, in a letter to an interlocutor enquiring whether the book were an allegory about nuclear military power
     
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  39. @Pat Boyle
    Actually the term 'robot bees' is probably redundant. Bees are already robots.

    My wife and I visited her parents in Canada for Christmas. The old man was a bee keeper. There was a hive in the back yard and of course the yard was covered in snow. It was also pretty cold.

    Near the hive there were all these little dead bees - black spots in the pristine snow. Apparently the bees spend the whole long Canadian winter shivering in the hive to keep the temperature up. Then every day or so, they send one of their compatriots outside to see if it's Spring yet. The bee flies out and freezes to death in mid air. So there is a trail of frozen bees leading away from the hive. The bees were only getting about five feet on average before they dropped into the snow.

    This was late December. Canadian winters are long. There were going to be a lot more frozen bees in the snow before the first flowers boomed.

    It's kinda creepy to think about. They don't seem like animals at all - more like little robots.

    In bees, I see the future of humanity.

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  40. prole says:

    Bees act on instructions from the Queen. bee keepers use smoke to disrupt communications between the queen and her workers. Queens use pheromones to give orders to their drones to attack or swarm…

    What can we humans use as smoke to disrupt the oligarchs and media from ordering their lynch mobs from attacking us and protect ourselves ?

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  41. Olorin says:
    @guest
    A group of people attempting to outrun the wind may be the silliest possible premise for a horror movie sequence.

    It was intended as mythopoetic, not logical.

    See Hosea 8:7 I think it is.

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    "It was intended as mythopoetic"

    It failed. Homer wrote plenty of scenes where wind harried Odysseus, I think, but it never came off like that.

    The movie did make a point of saying there are some things too mysterious for science to fathom, or whatever, but it almost entirely took place within a realistic, rationalist or pseudo-rationalist mindset. When Marky-Mark says it's a mystery, I imagine he thinks that because he's too stupid to figure it out. (I realize it was only high school, but that guy was a science teacher?)

    Then there's the old midichlorian problem. The movie actually does explain the "happening" in a half-assed scientific fashion, but doesn't drop the Mystery. Trying to have its cake and it eat too.

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  42. Olorin says:
    @Robert Hume
    OT: Tom Boswell really doesn't like the new US Open golf course.

    "So why are we here at Erin Hills? It has no track record, no visual variety, no water in play and as little natural grandeur as a nice piece of rolling farmland could offer, once you scoured off its natural trees and left no vegetation more than hip high to create what the USGA calls “a heartland course.” Has anyone ever heard of a “heartland course” before, or was that invented, too?"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/erin-hills-is-heartland-course-with-lots-of-land-but-not-much-to-heart/2017/06/15/7064a046-522c-11e7-be25-3a519335381c_story.html?utm_term=.8022afddcade

    The Kettle Moraine isn’t to everyone’s taste.

    Thank the gods.

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  43. Olorin says:
    @Cloud of Probable Matricide
    Relevant reactionary reading recommendation: The Glass Bees, Ernst Juenger.

    Great UNREP line. Thanks.

    I’ve been trying to remember the name of that SF novel since the other day when some wag somewhere posted a meme suggesting that the Vox Bees were dispatched by Karen Pence.

    I think of Zapparoni’s employees/workshop multiple times each week in my interactions with IT people/units.

    http://cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/neoreaction/Ernst%20Junger/The-Glass-Bees-by-Ernst-Juenger.pdf

    Summer brain turns to landwork (lots of physicality) and then winter language brain works either not at all or by downloading fully formed large blocks of text during its appointed Writing Times.

    Either way I have a helluva time with middle level factoid recall of this sort, even though I must have thought about it a dozen times out on field and thought, “Gotta search on the term bees that snip off ears german science fiction.”

    So it’s extra interesting to see your recommendation today, CP/M.

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    It is a great book. I have trouble believing the film Blade Runner wasn't inspired by Junger's Glass Bees as much as Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep.
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  44. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @BenKenobi
    The Happening is one of the few times I saw a movie (in theater) and was genuinely offended in the old school fashion: "I want my money back."

    Plot synopsis: the trees emit, I dunno, pheromones that cause humans to commit suicide because muh global warming (spoiler alert). At one point the protagonists are fleeing a wind in the meadow.

    I could illustrate a few more ridiculous points but Youtube lacks the footage I'm looking for.

    It's a terrible movie.

    I thought The Happening was about a bunch of hippies who kidnap Anthony Quinn. Unfortunately no bees were involved, but fortunately Faye Dunaway was.

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  45. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @MW
    Sounds like you were too late to see the drone massacre. In cold climates, the workers kick all the drones out of the hive in the late fall, and the drones then starve to death. Nice photo and explanation here:

    https://beeinformed.org/2013/11/08/why-your-drones-are-getting-the-boot/

    Bees are so mind-bogglingly different from mammals. When anthropomorphizing bees, I tend to think of the hive as the organism, and individual bees as organs. The hive does not give a damn about an individual worker or drone.

    Hmmm, sounds a lot like capitalism, socialism, communism.

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  46. RSDB says:
    @Sunbeam
    I think there is ... not sure a social class divide, or personal taste. In the end it's gotta be genes though (ain't it all?).

    But movies that are allegories. Just do not want, do not care for. I know what an allegory is. I can even deal with questions involving them on the SAT. But why do I want to spend two hours being allegorized by someone?

    It possibly could work. I'm sure there are some that can grab you. But in general having a couple of levels of indirection from what your movie is really about isn't a lot of people's cup of tea.

    No idea what the attendance was for that flick, but I imagine most of the viewers totally missed the allegory, taking it for what was on the label (whatever that was).

    I don’t mind an allegory, but the thing symbolized ought to have something interesting to it. “People have allergies” is extremely underwhelming as a hidden meaning, or the point of a parable.

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  47. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Black Mirror is pretty good. And free on Netflix. Not that Netflix is free, but the extended family uses it. There isn’t much on Netflix in terms of movies.

    Maybe I’m not supposed to like it. That episode — the chick detective — as bitter as they come. European TV seems to spend a lot of time on women that are obsessed with their lack of children.

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  48. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen
    Is it too late for The National to remake the video with shots of the Vox office in a cloud of bees?
    https://youtu.be/yfySK7CLEEg

    Was surprised by how much their lead singer looks like a young Brian Cranston.

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  49. guest says:
    @Olorin
    It was intended as mythopoetic, not logical.

    See Hosea 8:7 I think it is.

    “It was intended as mythopoetic”

    It failed. Homer wrote plenty of scenes where wind harried Odysseus, I think, but it never came off like that.

    The movie did make a point of saying there are some things too mysterious for science to fathom, or whatever, but it almost entirely took place within a realistic, rationalist or pseudo-rationalist mindset. When Marky-Mark says it’s a mystery, I imagine he thinks that because he’s too stupid to figure it out. (I realize it was only high school, but that guy was a science teacher?)

    Then there’s the old midichlorian problem. The movie actually does explain the “happening” in a half-assed scientific fashion, but doesn’t drop the Mystery. Trying to have its cake and it eat too.

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    Well, after all, M. Night Shyamalan isn't Homer but one of Philadelphia's dot-Indian Episcopalians.

    Get enough historical, religious, ethnic, and etc. variables in your mindscape and kiss goodbye any possibility of chthonic coherence of the Homeric sort. Bearing in mind that "Homer" involves texts that he himself never wrote down; their coherence and power comes from a long cultural, geographic, and genetic tradition that informs them.


    When Marky-Mark says it’s a mystery, I imagine he thinks that because he’s too stupid to figure it out. (I realize it was only high school, but that guy was a science teacher?)
     
    He's the Bret Weinstein of the movie.

    Then there’s the old midichlorian problem. The movie actually does explain the “happening” in a half-assed scientific fashion, but doesn’t drop the Mystery. Trying to have its cake and it eat too.
     
    Exactly. And this may be its most effective element as a story: it was created at precisely at the nexus at issue in our society today. People wanting what science produces while not wanting to give up fairy tales and woo.

    I flash to all the blogs etc. where assertions are made that "Science kicks ass!" and such. "Science" being buying a Cafe Press t-shirt with the periodic table on it, and forwarding NdG Tyson memes.

    There's also this weird element in the movie, something like, "Oh yeah, natural forces want to kill us, but it's OK because they're mad at us for what we did to them." So I always interpreted The Happening as at least in part about broader matters of population genetics viewed through the left's filters.

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  50. PapayaSF says:

    Say, was you ever bit by a dead bee?

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    If you want anything, just whistle!
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  51. Cagey Beast says: • Website
    @Olorin
    Great UNREP line. Thanks.

    I've been trying to remember the name of that SF novel since the other day when some wag somewhere posted a meme suggesting that the Vox Bees were dispatched by Karen Pence.

    I think of Zapparoni's employees/workshop multiple times each week in my interactions with IT people/units.

    http://cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/neoreaction/Ernst%20Junger/The-Glass-Bees-by-Ernst-Juenger.pdf

    Summer brain turns to landwork (lots of physicality) and then winter language brain works either not at all or by downloading fully formed large blocks of text during its appointed Writing Times.

    Either way I have a helluva time with middle level factoid recall of this sort, even though I must have thought about it a dozen times out on field and thought, "Gotta search on the term bees that snip off ears german science fiction."

    So it's extra interesting to see your recommendation today, CP/M.

    It is a great book. I have trouble believing the film Blade Runner wasn’t inspired by Junger’s Glass Bees as much as Dick’s Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep.

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  52. Putin hacked those bees. Bees naturally prefer Buzzfeed.

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  53. @Sunbeam
    I think there is ... not sure a social class divide, or personal taste. In the end it's gotta be genes though (ain't it all?).

    But movies that are allegories. Just do not want, do not care for. I know what an allegory is. I can even deal with questions involving them on the SAT. But why do I want to spend two hours being allegorized by someone?

    It possibly could work. I'm sure there are some that can grab you. But in general having a couple of levels of indirection from what your movie is really about isn't a lot of people's cup of tea.

    No idea what the attendance was for that flick, but I imagine most of the viewers totally missed the allegory, taking it for what was on the label (whatever that was).

    Even more annoying – and a cause of the ill-advised attempts you rightly deplore – is that people try to make allegories, or to deem things allegories, which are not, on account of allegories are a somewhat nuanced thing most people don’t understand but which they enjoy invoking because it’s accepted as a sign they are intelligent (cf. irony and Morissette, Alanis…) Or, rather (and this goes to the nuance, most people do not understand that allegory has come to have (at least) two meanings, which they conflate, creating the deplorable and insufferable one kind in misguided efforts to create the meaningful (and nearly inevitable, in art, at least art that is any good) second sort.

    “As for any inner meaning or message, it has in the intention of the author none. It is neither allegorical nor topical…. I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence.” — J.R.R. Tolkien’s forward to The Lord of the Rings

    “[The Lord of the Rings not an allegory of Atomic power, but of Power (exerted for Domination). I do not think that even Power or Domination is the real centre of my story…. The real theme for me is about something much more permanent and difficult: Death and Immortality.” – J.R.R. Tolkien, in a letter to an interlocutor enquiring whether the book were an allegory about nuclear military power

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  54. Pericles says:
    @guest
    She Hate Me, the one about how black men are so good at sex lesbians will pay them for it? Or, rather, about how lesbians will pay to be impregnated by high-class blacks and resent that fact enough to yell at them during the sex act. But eventually will be won over, because black men are just that good.

    I understand lesbians were offended, but they got off easy because this movie makes them look attractive.

    The truly bizarre aspect was the frequent references to the security guard who foiled the Watergate break-in. Which is supposed to be a sad story because...I don't know. He should've got a lifelong pension and unending fame instead of just being a security guard?

    The role of NYC black lesbian inseminator is actually currently filled by one Ari Nagel, a tall Jewish math professor. As far as I could tell from the article, said lesbians did not yell angrily at him but sued for child support to the extent possible.

    http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/professor-who-donates-sperm-in-city-bathrooms-has-sired-22-kids/

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    I feel sorry for the children, I think it will take a miracle for any of them to turn into halfway-normal adults.
    , @Hyperborean
    I feel sorry for the children, I think it will take a miracle for any of them to turn into halfway-normal adults.
    , @Pericles
    Purely by chance, it has been a year since Ari Nagel was first mentioned, and while this year has been difficult, he's still at it.

    “I wouldn’t have a baby if Ari weren’t the father,” said pregnant Tiffany Harrison, a 42-year-old who works in church with her pastor wife, Yvonne.

     



    “Some of the moms video-chat every day,” said Nagel. “They all love each other — maybe a little too much. [Some of] the moms are flirting and hooking up.”
    ...
    Nagel admits that this is all a long way from his early life, when he was a “sheltered” kid from an insular Orthodox community in Rockland County.

     

    https://nypost.com/2017/06/17/sperminator-has-sired-dozens-of-kids-and-there-could-be-more-coming/
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  55. Olorin says:
    @guest
    "It was intended as mythopoetic"

    It failed. Homer wrote plenty of scenes where wind harried Odysseus, I think, but it never came off like that.

    The movie did make a point of saying there are some things too mysterious for science to fathom, or whatever, but it almost entirely took place within a realistic, rationalist or pseudo-rationalist mindset. When Marky-Mark says it's a mystery, I imagine he thinks that because he's too stupid to figure it out. (I realize it was only high school, but that guy was a science teacher?)

    Then there's the old midichlorian problem. The movie actually does explain the "happening" in a half-assed scientific fashion, but doesn't drop the Mystery. Trying to have its cake and it eat too.

    Well, after all, M. Night Shyamalan isn’t Homer but one of Philadelphia’s dot-Indian Episcopalians.

    Get enough historical, religious, ethnic, and etc. variables in your mindscape and kiss goodbye any possibility of chthonic coherence of the Homeric sort. Bearing in mind that “Homer” involves texts that he himself never wrote down; their coherence and power comes from a long cultural, geographic, and genetic tradition that informs them.

    When Marky-Mark says it’s a mystery, I imagine he thinks that because he’s too stupid to figure it out. (I realize it was only high school, but that guy was a science teacher?)

    He’s the Bret Weinstein of the movie.

    Then there’s the old midichlorian problem. The movie actually does explain the “happening” in a half-assed scientific fashion, but doesn’t drop the Mystery. Trying to have its cake and it eat too.

    Exactly. And this may be its most effective element as a story: it was created at precisely at the nexus at issue in our society today. People wanting what science produces while not wanting to give up fairy tales and woo.

    I flash to all the blogs etc. where assertions are made that “Science kicks ass!” and such. “Science” being buying a Cafe Press t-shirt with the periodic table on it, and forwarding NdG Tyson memes.

    There’s also this weird element in the movie, something like, “Oh yeah, natural forces want to kill us, but it’s OK because they’re mad at us for what we did to them.” So I always interpreted The Happening as at least in part about broader matters of population genetics viewed through the left’s filters.

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  56. @MW
    Sounds like you were too late to see the drone massacre. In cold climates, the workers kick all the drones out of the hive in the late fall, and the drones then starve to death. Nice photo and explanation here:

    https://beeinformed.org/2013/11/08/why-your-drones-are-getting-the-boot/

    Bees are so mind-bogglingly different from mammals. When anthropomorphizing bees, I tend to think of the hive as the organism, and individual bees as organs. The hive does not give a damn about an individual worker or drone.

    You should read the late great Joseph Sobran on The Hive

    http://www.sobran.com/hive/

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  57. @Pericles
    The role of NYC black lesbian inseminator is actually currently filled by one Ari Nagel, a tall Jewish math professor. As far as I could tell from the article, said lesbians did not yell angrily at him but sued for child support to the extent possible.

    http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/professor-who-donates-sperm-in-city-bathrooms-has-sired-22-kids/

    I feel sorry for the children, I think it will take a miracle for any of them to turn into halfway-normal adults.

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  58. @Pericles
    The role of NYC black lesbian inseminator is actually currently filled by one Ari Nagel, a tall Jewish math professor. As far as I could tell from the article, said lesbians did not yell angrily at him but sued for child support to the extent possible.

    http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/professor-who-donates-sperm-in-city-bathrooms-has-sired-22-kids/

    I feel sorry for the children, I think it will take a miracle for any of them to turn into halfway-normal adults.

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  59. @anonymous
    You can never tell about bees. Didn't somebody write a book or a short story about how the animal kingdom turns on humanity in retaliation for all that has gone wrong in the world?

    Yep, it’s been done before, in California too!

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  60. @PapayaSF
    Say, was you ever bit by a dead bee?

    If you want anything, just whistle!

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  61. @Triumph104
    Spike Lee used anti-Semitism to get the gentile director Norman Jewison removed from the movie Malcolm X. Shortly after Spike's mother died in 1976, Bill Lee married a Jewish woman, who has sported dreadlocks.

    Part of the split between father and son had to do with Spike refusing to help pay bills on his childhood family brownstone. A few years ago, after Spike ranted about gentrification in his old neighborhood, while simultaneously trying to sell his current home for $32 million, his childhood home was vandalized.

    I am surprised to see that Bill Lee is still alive. Father and son did make up to some extent, which probably explains why Spike abruptly stopped talking about gentrification. Spike's father, step-mother, and half-brother still lived in the Brooklyn brownstone at the time of vandalization.

    A goy named Jewison … working in Hollywood.

    Goy is so much handier a word than gentile, and not only because it’s shorter. For one thing, it rhymes with boy, joy, toy, destroy, hoi polloi, Deanna Troi, and Sherman McCoy.

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  62. Pericles says:
    @Pericles
    The role of NYC black lesbian inseminator is actually currently filled by one Ari Nagel, a tall Jewish math professor. As far as I could tell from the article, said lesbians did not yell angrily at him but sued for child support to the extent possible.

    http://nypost.com/2016/06/12/professor-who-donates-sperm-in-city-bathrooms-has-sired-22-kids/

    Purely by chance, it has been a year since Ari Nagel was first mentioned, and while this year has been difficult, he’s still at it.

    “I wouldn’t have a baby if Ari weren’t the father,” said pregnant Tiffany Harrison, a 42-year-old who works in church with her pastor wife, Yvonne.

    “Some of the moms video-chat every day,” said Nagel. “They all love each other — maybe a little too much. [Some of] the moms are flirting and hooking up.”

    Nagel admits that this is all a long way from his early life, when he was a “sheltered” kid from an insular Orthodox community in Rockland County.

    https://nypost.com/2017/06/17/sperminator-has-sired-dozens-of-kids-and-there-could-be-more-coming/

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