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From Bloomberg:

Starbucks Pumps the Brakes in Its Home Market

With Schultz exiting, it’s now up to CEO Kevin Johnson to decide where to slow versus grow.

By Leslie Patton
June 19, 2018, 1:05 PM PDT

Americans’ long-running joke about a Starbucks on every corner may be nearing its end.

The coffee behemoth is retrenching in its home market as it contends with sales growth that Chief Executive Officer Kevin Johnson acknowledges isn’t fast enough. …

Starbucks also plans to close about 150 company-operated stores in densely penetrated U.S. markets next fiscal year, three times the number it historically shuts down annually. Shares initially slid as much as 6.3 percent in late trading Tuesday before inching back up. The stock was down 1.6 percent as of 5:24 p.m. in New York.

… With about 14,000 stores domestically, Starbucks is now pumping the brakes on licensed and company-operated locations, with a renewed focus on rural and suburban areas—not over-caffeinated urban neighborhoods where locals already joke that the next Starbucks will open inside an existing store.

“Over-caffeinated urban neighborhoods” is to 2018 what “vibrant urban neighborhoods” was to 2005.

The closing stores are often in “major metro areas where increases in wage and occupancy and other regulatory requirements” are making them unprofitable, Johnson said. “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”

… Schultz, who had already transitioned away from running the coffee chain’s day-to-day operations, announced earlier this month he’d be leaving the company, fueling speculation he could be gearing up for a political career.

 
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  1. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

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    "… Schultz, who had already transitioned away from running the coffee chain’s day-to-day operations, announced earlier this month he’d be leaving the company, fueling speculation he could be gearing up for a political career."

     

    Holly Ristretto Arabica Venti Late Mochaccino, and all minor saints;

    Schultz could be gearing up for a political career !

    Hah, like Bibi would ever allow this putz to replace him....oh, wait.
    , @kaganovitch
    Perhaps they could call the new chain Pokumon?
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  2. JimB says:

    “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”

    Too bad Starbucks has alienated middle America and the South with their lefty politics.

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    Only the racist buttholes

    Good ting that the country is getting more diverse and white virus are bearing Children of Color

    Only white men have a problem with "lefty" politics. It's why we have to go

    As Leonard Pitts has pointed out White men have had 500 years of affirmative action
    , @Corvinus
    "Too bad Starbucks has alienated middle America and the South with their lefty politics."

    Indeed, as this company is suffering profit margin wise. Oh, wait...

    https://news.starbucks.com/press-releases/starbucks-q1-fy18-earnings
    , @donut
    You got a twofer .
    , @Father O'Hara
    Doesn't this mean that the bizarre "black Starbucks" are being phased out?

    Sorry,negroes,but we don't want you peeing here and yelling at us!
    , @AnotherDad


    “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”
     
    Too bad Starbucks has alienated middle America and the South with their lefty politics.
     
    Nationalists, the "right", really need to start building institutions of our own.

    We could use a nationalist/patriotic coffee company. We could use a nationalist/patriot alternative to Netflix and Facebook even more. But a Starbucks killer would be a great start.

    Not my mission--I don't even drink the stuff. But it's hardly a difficult industry to enter. And beating Starbucks on price and taste doesn't seem like rocket science.

    "American Coffee"?
    "Patriot Coffee"?
    "July 4th Java"?
    "Red, White and Brew"?

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  3. newrouter says:

    “The closing stores are often in “major metro areas where increases in wage and occupancy and other regulatory requirements” are making them unprofitable, Johnson said. “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”

    “Good luck” with that. Maybe do a #knee too!

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    bored identity strongly believes that all this coffee chain’s day-to-day operation should also transition along with their founder.

    After all, the future has been already fully disclosed more than a decade ago - and y'all should know that in that future fiddy grand ain't gonna take you too far:

    https://youtu.be/qs4mtbTsaL4?t=48s
    , @Aardvark

    ... and occupancy and other regulatory requirements ...
     
    I wonder if that is a code phrase for "solving our bathroom problems...?
    , @Ximenes

    “The closing stores are often in “major metro areas where increases in wage and occupancy and other regulatory requirements” are making them unprofitable, Johnson said..."
     
    They are also in major metro areas where many street people are likely to drop in, not buy anything, and then refuse to leave when asked.
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  4. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Homeless people, swamp Starbucks!!!

    I’m loving this.

    To appease blacks, Starbucks should rename itself Bump-n-Grind

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    • Replies: @JimB
    With the way their price for a cup of coffee has been going lately maybe they should rename themselves Sawbucks.
    , @Anonymous
    I hear Starbuck’s newest drink is the Ghet-to Espresso, a vibrant, dark roast to kick-start your day.
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  5. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.amren.com/news/2018/06/malema-hits-out-at-indians-again-the-majority-of-indians-are-racist/


    EFF leader says that Indians “had all sorts of resources Africans didn’t have.”

    Yeah, Hindus have resources blacks don’t have. It’s called brains.

    I love it. Hindus love calling whites ‘racist’, but guess who’s calling them ‘racist’. The ‘racist’ black Malema. They are all ‘racist’.

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    Europe wants to invite hundreds, even billions, of Africans to Europe over next few decades. What could go wrong?

    South Africa looks like the future of Europe. Malema will have a whip hand over all.
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  6. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    I quit going to Starbucks when my employers quit using the local rancid office ooffee service and went to Uline’s coffee.

    https://www.uline.com/BL_599/Coffee-Containers

    It’s a surprisingly good blend.

    If it’s hot chocolate you want, the best is to be had from the Mormons.
    Really.

    https://providentliving.lds.org/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations-map?

    What can I buy at a Home Storage Center?

    Prices effective as of January 1, 2018
    Hot Cocoa Mix $48.00 N/A
    Information Coming Soon

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    Yeah, the Mormons, are big preppers, Anon-427. That's one thing I admire about them. How much hot chocolate do you get for $48? I am about out, and this is provident timing, in fact. Got links?
    , @Karl
    6 Anonymous[427] > It’s a surprisingly good blend.


    unless it specifies otherwise IN WRITING on the package, I guarantee you that it's not the same blend from production-run to production-run TAKE A LOOK at how little is promised to you IN WRITING on a bag of Starbucks coffee....

    When the day comes to plan the next production run, their Corporate Buyer emails his regular contacts and asks them for a quote. E.g., ArcherDanielsMidland

    the lowest bidders are selected, up to the quantity where they have enough to do a normal production-run, which by the way is in QUPs (Quantity of Unit Packaging) comprised of retail-able consumer sizes. E.g., 2 dozen 1-lb plastic "cans" per cardboard-box QUP. The cardboard box is sized to (surprise, surprise) get through a supermarket aisle on one of those cart things.
    , @Jim Christian
    Uline sez to me, "Urine". A barely noticeable nit, but a nit still. Doesn't anyone run a focus group on brands and names?
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  7. BenKenobi says:

    They should have stuck to selling covfefe.

    Now they’re America’s Bathroom of Record.

    Feels good, man.

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  8. anon[152] • Disclaimer says:

    $15 an hour teenage cappuccinos + non-paying mochas in the restrooms = 150 closed stores.
    Got it.

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  9. JimB says:
    @Anon
    Homeless people, swamp Starbucks!!!

    I'm loving this.

    To appease blacks, Starbucks should rename itself Bump-n-Grind

    With the way their price for a cup of coffee has been going lately maybe they should rename themselves Sawbucks.

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    • Replies: @Seamus Padraig

    With the way their price for a cup of coffee has been going lately maybe they should rename themselves Sawbucks.
     
    A guy I knew years back used to call the place Four Bucks, because, he would say, "I can't hardly get out of there without paying at least four bucks." That was before inflation, of course.
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  10. Anonymous[150] • Disclaimer says:

    The shuttered locations sound like probably stores most overrun with urban density dweller non-customer restroom users.

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  11. Anon[259] • Disclaimer says:

    The kids are the border, the kids at the border!!

    Send them back to their relatives if their parents are reckless enough to put them in such situation.

    https://abcnews.go.com/International/elian-gonzalez-recalls-moment-captured-iconic-photo-federal/story?id=31133827

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    ...the kids at the border
     
    A few years ago a loophole in Nebraska law allowed a child of any age to be abandoned at a hospital or fire station. Hilarity ensued.

    Apparently the thing now is to leave unwanted kids at the border.
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  12. That’s hilarious.

    “We’re sick of selling coffee to Portland hipsters! Red State Exurbia FTW Baby!!!”

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  13. @JimB
    With the way their price for a cup of coffee has been going lately maybe they should rename themselves Sawbucks.

    With the way their price for a cup of coffee has been going lately maybe they should rename themselves Sawbucks.

    A guy I knew years back used to call the place Four Bucks, because, he would say, “I can’t hardly get out of there without paying at least four bucks.” That was before inflation, of course.

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    When McDonald's starting selling specialty coffee drinks they put up a billboard near Starbucks headquarters that read, "$4 is dumb." I think they were able to develop some market share by selling a similar product at a lower price without the snobbery.
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  14. OT — Hey errybody, Groyper is back !!! (again) HOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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  15. @Anon
    https://www.amren.com/news/2018/06/malema-hits-out-at-indians-again-the-majority-of-indians-are-racist/

    EFF leader says that Indians “had all sorts of resources Africans didn’t have.”


    Yeah, Hindus have resources blacks don't have. It's called brains.

    I love it. Hindus love calling whites 'racist', but guess who's calling them 'racist'. The 'racist' black Malema. They are all 'racist'.

    Europe wants to invite hundreds, even billions, of Africans to Europe over next few decades. What could go wrong?

    South Africa looks like the future of Europe. Malema will have a whip hand over all.

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  16. Anonymous[180] • Disclaimer says:

    “… Schultz, who had already transitioned away from running the coffee chain’s day-to-day operations, announced earlier this month he’d be leaving the company, fueling speculation he could be gearing up for a political career.”

    bored identity believes that all this coffee chain’s day-to-day operation should transition together with their founder. After all, their future has been already disclosed more than a decade ago:

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  17. Anon[322] • Disclaimer says:

    “So, crisis management, here’s how we’re going to handle this. Those chip on the shoulder blacks, we’ll pay them off and then do a big bullshit dog and pony anti bias thing at all the stories. Then wait a month. Have research make a list of shops with the highest percentage of blacks in the neighborhood. Shut those stores.

    “Also, classical music, baroque, twenty four seven in all stores. Once the facial recognition system is installed company wide we can switch to a dynamic system that only cues up the classical music when a swarthily completioned customer walks in.”

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    The trouble with these sorts of strategies--which are eminently sensible--is that they are hard to implement when you can't leave any sort of paper (inc. electronic) trail of what you're actually up to.

    You have to call for ideas, bounce around ideas, develop and discuss plans, and push through implementation without ever saying what the goals are. In fact, you have to be really careful never to say what the goals are because your own organization will not just be full of progs--progs are fine with keeping their lives "gentrified"--but will have SJWs who upon stumbling on bad think will raise a fuss and/or leak.
    , @Jim Christian
    Isn't the very strategy racist? It's been long-known that Mozart drives off swarthy diversity. Mozart is White man music of the highest Nazi order. Complex with many harmonies, instruments, and even combined with an Opera, all are a sure-fire repellent to diversity. Christmas carols year-round can do the trick in particularly bad areas because it reminds the Blacks of all the Christmas mornings of their Yewts when they woke to a cold house, empty stockings and an afternoon drive-by.

    And so won't the SJW-gangsters pile on to eliminate it?
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  18. @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1009187241602605056?s=21

    “… Schultz, who had already transitioned away from running the coffee chain’s day-to-day operations, announced earlier this month he’d be leaving the company, fueling speculation he could be gearing up for a political career.”

    Holly Ristretto Arabica Venti Late Mochaccino, and all minor saints;

    Schultz could be gearing up for a political career !

    Hah, like Bibi would ever allow this putz to replace him….oh, wait.

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  19. @newrouter
    "The closing stores are often in “major metro areas where increases in wage and occupancy and other regulatory requirements” are making them unprofitable, Johnson said. “Now, in a lot of ways, it's middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”

    "Good luck" with that. Maybe do a #knee too!

    bored identity strongly believes that all this coffee chain’s day-to-day operation should also transition along with their founder.

    After all, the future has been already fully disclosed more than a decade ago – and y’all should know that in that future fiddy grand ain’t gonna take you too far:

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  20. I continue to hope Starbucks crashes and burns, corporately-speaking, but I worry that they’ve still got lots of globe to expand into.

    There’s plenty of competition for them in the USA, and here in Hong Kong, but we were in Shenzhen this past weekend, and had a look at a big new shopping complex that featured an enormous two-story Starbucks/Starbucks Reserve. It was very, very busy.

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    The Chinese worship Western Culture
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  21. “Shares initially slid as much as 6.3 percent in late trading Tuesday”

    If only someone had pointed out this hundred-dollar-bills-lying-on-the-pavement investment opportunity to our assembled dissident-right brethren two months, they could have made a killing…

    Oh wait!

    Almost Missouri says:
    April 19, 2018 at 7:15 pm GMT • 100 Words

    Here’s a question for those of you asking how iSteve-ish Noticing can translate into profit?

    This Starbucks story has obvious implications for Starbucks’ business model going forward: it is now wedged between the rock of hypocritical hipster virtue signalling and the hard place of dealing with black dysfunction. Furthermore, it now has a bullseye firmly affixed to it that every black grifter and shakedown artist can see and will home in on. The CEO has publicly declared his intention to cuck as hard and deep as possible. So…

    …shorting opportunity?

    So far the stock price hasn’t budged, despite the story being a week old, and the implications being obvious to Those Who Can See. Facebook took a hit in March. Why not Starbucks in April? Are those famously flinty-eyed Wall Street traders too Diversity whipped to see it too?

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/wapo-starbucks-and-the-elimination-of-black-people-from-white-spaces/#comment-2295542

    You’re welcome.

    In lieu of a commission for me, you can donate part of your profits to the legal defense of whichever dissident right Emmanuel Goldstein is currently being prosecuted in a Social Justice show trial.

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    Excellent.
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  22. Starbucks gwine branch out far away,
    To De South, where de darkies am gay.
    Dey’re compliant and puppety,
    Not surly and uppity,
    While de birds make de music all day.

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  23. Moses says:

    Just speculating, but could it be that the stores closing are the very ones overrun by Starbucks “come on in and shoot up in our bathroom” policy?

    My schadenfreude sure hopes so.

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  24. Leslie Patton writes, “Starbucks is now pumping the brakes on licensed and company-operated locations”. Why is Leslie Patton using a brake-pumping metaphor? How old is he/she? For a few decades now, pumping a car’s brakes on a slippery surface is something that drivers are instructed not to do, because the car’s electronics does that in an optimal way that a human driver cannot achieve.

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Old idioms die hard.

    Plus women don't know squat about cars.
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  25. @Dave Pinsen
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/1009187241602605056?s=21

    Perhaps they could call the new chain Pokumon?

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  26. unit472 says:

    If IHOP can transition to IHOB maybe Starbucks can penetrate the South and Midwest by serving coffee black with your choice of cream and sugar for $1 and add biscuits and gravy, grits and chicken fried steak to the menu!

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  27. Affirmatively Furthering Overpriced Coffee

    It’s kinda funny how the migration of Starbucks is a repetition of white flight from the charred grounds of our cities.

    Just like those suburbanites who preceded them though, the baristas can run but they can’t hide. Vibrant loiterers will affirmatively follow them — with the government’s help.

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    Charred grounds; good one!
    In the Italian community it was a standard gag that Americanos drank weak dishwater for coffee. I used to think that maybe Starbucks was overcompensating by over roasting their coffee in an attempt to make it properly European. I think now that it was a deliberate product marketing ploy. If you ruin the coffee , then your customers won’t buy the lowest price and lowest margin straight cup of joe. They’ll make the stuff palatable by ordering a glorified milk shake with all sorts of flavorings, sugars, syrups, milks, spices etc. thereby leading to the $6 cup of coffee. Additionally, the over roasting jacks up the caffeine concentration thereby giving your customers a jolt they want to repeat. I only went to Starbucks when a contact wanted to meet there in order to pass on the latest batch of DNC emails and marching orders from the Kremlin, or whatever, but when I did I didn’t bother with any pretense and ordered the strawberry milkshakey thing they make.
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  28. anonymous[185] • Disclaimer says:

    The famous incident some time back involving the black loiterers being asked to leave seemed staged at the time. Now I think Starbucks itself may have had a hand in it. It gave them an excuse to remodel many of them with far fewer seats and the ones that remained are much less comfortable, discouraging sitting for long periods of time. Maybe they wanted to move to a buy and go model since that’s where most of the revenue comes from anyway.

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    • Replies: @Ozymandias
    "Maybe they wanted to move to a buy and go model since that’s where most of the revenue comes from anyway."

    People stop at busy restaurants and drive past empty ones. If you want to be busy, you have to look busy.
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  29. Aardvark says:
    @newrouter
    "The closing stores are often in “major metro areas where increases in wage and occupancy and other regulatory requirements” are making them unprofitable, Johnson said. “Now, in a lot of ways, it's middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”

    "Good luck" with that. Maybe do a #knee too!

    … and occupancy and other regulatory requirements …

    I wonder if that is a code phrase for “solving our bathroom problems…?

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    • Replies: @keuril
    Back in the day, Starbucks was a kind of entry-level status symbol, in a Mercedes C-class sort of way. Before Starbucks, it was not obvious to most Americans why they should pay five dollars for a cup of coffee, so people who did so might carry their Starbucks cup around to low-key show off. Nowadays, Starbucks has about as much status as McDonald’s. This is something young people watching this scene might not realize—it’s not just making fun of Starbucks-within-Starbucks, but also the sort of snobby people who only deal with other people who went to law school, who buy all their clothes out of LL Bean catalogs (pre-internet), who are rich enough to go to Starbucks every weekend and get a Grande Espresso [LOL].
    Best in Show is so full of win, it’s hard to pick out a favorite character or scene, but the Psychotic Yuppie Couple might have been the most prophetic of the bunch. The stuff on Starbucks is a bit dated, but the Dog Psychologist was ahead of his time, anticipating an age where one unironically identifies as the parent of a canine.
    , @Jim Christian
    Vapid fits the description requirement for these two. Did they go to college to get stupid? Were they ever bright, or were they always morons?
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  31. Tiny Duck says:
    @JimB

    “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”
     
    Too bad Starbucks has alienated middle America and the South with their lefty politics.

    Only the racist buttholes

    Good ting that the country is getting more diverse and white virus are bearing Children of Color

    Only white men have a problem with “lefty” politics. It’s why we have to go

    As Leonard Pitts has pointed out White men have had 500 years of affirmative action

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    As Leonard Pitts has pointed out White men have had 500 years of affirmative action
     
    That statement makes no sense. What governing entity of a large multiracial society gave white men affirmative action for the past five centuries to address the past wrongs of white slavery, the Ottoman empire? I have no idea who Leonard Pitts is, but based on this one statement I'll wager he's a bloviating ignoramus.
    , @Verymuchalive

    Only white men have a problem with “lefty” politics. It’s why we have to go
     
    Self hate is no condemnation. But in your particular case, I'll make an exception.
    , @Clyde

    As Leonard Pitts has pointed out White men have had 500 years of affirmative action
     
    L Pitz is an imbecile. The white people who settled, conquered Indian tribes, built, engineered America. Who fought and died or got injured in American wars. These European derived Americans got just plain action for their dreams and prosperity. They received action as compensation for all their contributions. They secured action for their offspring and descendants. Strike out the word affirmative. They just got action because they were and are creators, builders, doers, inventors.
    What is crazy is all the black and Hispanic immigrants and "colored" third world immigrants and all their offspring who get affirmative action slots at school and at work.
    As far as American blacks with slave ancestors go. Affirmative action should have expired by now. They have had it for 50 years. You know who the other original beneficiaries of affirmative action were? Only American Indians. No mention of Hispanics or gays or women. What a joke AA has become. Liberal make a farce out of everything.
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  32. @Almost Missouri

    "Shares initially slid as much as 6.3 percent in late trading Tuesday"
     
    If only someone had pointed out this hundred-dollar-bills-lying-on-the-pavement investment opportunity to our assembled dissident-right brethren two months, they could have made a killing...

    Oh wait!


    Almost Missouri says:
    April 19, 2018 at 7:15 pm GMT • 100 Words

    Here’s a question for those of you asking how iSteve-ish Noticing can translate into profit?

    This Starbucks story has obvious implications for Starbucks’ business model going forward: it is now wedged between the rock of hypocritical hipster virtue signalling and the hard place of dealing with black dysfunction. Furthermore, it now has a bullseye firmly affixed to it that every black grifter and shakedown artist can see and will home in on. The CEO has publicly declared his intention to cuck as hard and deep as possible. So…

    …shorting opportunity?

    So far the stock price hasn’t budged, despite the story being a week old, and the implications being obvious to Those Who Can See. Facebook took a hit in March. Why not Starbucks in April? Are those famously flinty-eyed Wall Street traders too Diversity whipped to see it too?
     

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/wapo-starbucks-and-the-elimination-of-black-people-from-white-spaces/#comment-2295542

    You're welcome.

    In lieu of a commission for me, you can donate part of your profits to the legal defense of whichever dissident right Emmanuel Goldstein is currently being prosecuted in a Social Justice show trial.

    Excellent.

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  33. Corporate White Flight. And instead of learning anything they’ll bring their demented policies with them and wreck the new host town.

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  34. Chase says:

    OT (to this article, but on the only topic the media seems interested in covering), the disqualification in action:

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    #howabsolutelydareyou
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  35. @Anonymous
    I quit going to Starbucks when my employers quit using the local rancid office ooffee service and went to Uline's coffee.

    https://www.uline.com/BL_599/Coffee-Containers

    It's a surprisingly good blend.


    If it's hot chocolate you want, the best is to be had from the Mormons.
    Really.

    https://providentliving.lds.org/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations-map?
    What can I buy at a Home Storage Center?

    Prices effective as of January 1, 2018
    Hot Cocoa Mix $48.00 N/A
    Information Coming Soon

    Yeah, the Mormons, are big preppers, Anon-427. That’s one thing I admire about them. How much hot chocolate do you get for $48? I am about out, and this is provident timing, in fact. Got links?

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  36. As to the post itself, one can one say (besides touting accurate stock advice!) but Ha ha haaaa!

    Here, in THE urban caffeinated nieghborhood, is one of your caffeinated-Americans:

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  37. Jake says:

    So a company that absolutely despises the white Basket of Deplorables is now looking to the midwest and South. Let me guess: the company will manage to avoid opening new stores in or near black majority areas of Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, Memphis, Atlanta, New Orleans, Houston, etc.

    I call upon Black Lives Matter, the NAACP, the ADL, and the Southern Poverty Law Center to ship hordes of poor blacks to Starbucks stores located in low crime areas so the victims of racism can demand their Constitutional rights to use the restrooms of any businesses they want. I also plead that those civil rights groups demand that Starbucks add midnight basketball courts so young black males will feel comfortable in Starbucks.

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    Yes. And normal Americans of all backgrounds should intentionally drive Starbucks down — especially white people who are constantly besmirched and lectured to by Starbucks.

    Sit in their stores without buying anything for hours. Use their bathrooms. Threaten to sue if they ask you to buy something or leave. Repeat collectively until the location is known for not having available seats. Bring an old Starbucks cup with you (or just ask for one and cause a stink if they won’t give it to you) and put it on the table if that helps.

    Nothing illegal or violent or intimidating, by any means. Just reciprocating the contempt that arrogant white-hating Starbucks and the anti-Christian bigot Schulz have shown our people and our nation.

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  38. Fleeing “The Element” maybe?

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  39. sondjata says:

    “The closing stores are often in “major metro areas where increases in wage and occupancy and other regulatory requirements” are making them unprofitable, Johnson said. “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.””

    Seems to me that this is probably more of the issue.

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  40. Dr. X says:

    The closing stores are often in “major metro areas where increases in wage and occupancy and other regulatory requirements” are making them unprofitable, Johnson said. “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”

    They’d better start letting people CCW in their franchises, then…

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  41. TheJester says:

    [Howard] Schultz, who had already transitioned away from running the coffee chain’s day-to-day operations, announced earlier this month he’d be leaving the company, fueling speculation he could be gearing up for a political career.

    One only has to experience one smelly derelict roaming through a Starbucks in the morning for his daily toilette … and people NOTICE.

    Experience it again … and the place becomes uncomfortable.

    Experience it again … and you no longer go there.

    So, it makes sense that Starbucks is deciding to close 150 urban kiosks coextensive with or close to locations where homeless people hang out. This was predictable. Starbucks is “reaping what it sows …!”

    I experienced a similar situation in the Washington DC area. I used to commute early for meetings to avoid the morning rush hour. I’d hang out in a fast food restaurant until it was time to jump on the metro (and, yes, I would buy coffee and a light breakfast). The men’s room was typically unavailable to up to an hour in the mornings as a homeless derelict came in for his daily toilet.

    Allowing derelicts to roam the premises and using them as “public toilets” can affect a company’s business model. Hence, Starbucks is getting what it deserved.

    I wonder if the corporate disaster that Howard Schultz created in his response to Starbucks being “pimped” by a couple of black activists had anything to do with his leaving the company.

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  42. jim jones says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist
    I continue to hope Starbucks crashes and burns, corporately-speaking, but I worry that they've still got lots of globe to expand into.

    There's plenty of competition for them in the USA, and here in Hong Kong, but we were in Shenzhen this past weekend, and had a look at a big new shopping complex that featured an enormous two-story Starbucks/Starbucks Reserve. It was very, very busy.

    The Chinese worship Western Culture

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  43. Berty says:

    “densely penetrated”

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  44. Anon[107] • Disclaimer says:

    Dollar Stores —

    Front corner behind the potato chips?

    Left-center?

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  45. This makes me a hipster in its own bad way, but I stopped going to Starbucks because they don’t serve Bulletproof Coffee, which I find helps me a great deal, and which a local place actually serves. The fact that the baristas of the local place are actually attractive contributes to my decision as well, and the 20% tip.

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  46. Alfa158 says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Affirmatively Furthering Overpriced Coffee

    It's kinda funny how the migration of Starbucks is a repetition of white flight from the charred grounds of our cities.

    Just like those suburbanites who preceded them though, the baristas can run but they can't hide. Vibrant loiterers will affirmatively follow them -- with the government's help.

    Charred grounds; good one!
    In the Italian community it was a standard gag that Americanos drank weak dishwater for coffee. I used to think that maybe Starbucks was overcompensating by over roasting their coffee in an attempt to make it properly European. I think now that it was a deliberate product marketing ploy. If you ruin the coffee , then your customers won’t buy the lowest price and lowest margin straight cup of joe. They’ll make the stuff palatable by ordering a glorified milk shake with all sorts of flavorings, sugars, syrups, milks, spices etc. thereby leading to the $6 cup of coffee. Additionally, the over roasting jacks up the caffeine concentration thereby giving your customers a jolt they want to repeat. I only went to Starbucks when a contact wanted to meet there in order to pass on the latest batch of DNC emails and marching orders from the Kremlin, or whatever, but when I did I didn’t bother with any pretense and ordered the strawberry milkshakey thing they make.

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  47. Thud says: • Website

    Black rifle coffee all day!

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  48. KenH says:

    I’m thinking that “densely penetrated markets” is just a euphemism for places with a huge surplus of melanin.

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  49. A1 says:

    You are reading too much into this as it is good management to cull poor locations. I mean close to where I am several locations have come and gone with Starbucks leaving one spot due to an unreasonable landlord. What is interesting is the need to signal the market as they could close / change / renovate / consolidate 150 locations out of 14,000 locations without anyone noticing.

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  50. anonymous[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Dollar Stores --

    Front corner behind the potato chips?

    Left-center?

    Thank you for this poem.

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  51. My wife and I have discussed the Philadelphia Starbucks case several times. When they got their new CEO, I told her that I expected the first thing he was going to do was to shut down all the stores in the “over caffeinated urban areas” as soon as possible. I predicted this because its the first thing I would do if I were CEO of Starbucks. Given that Starbucks shops are company owned and not franchises, this is easy to do. So my prediction has proven right.

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  52. BB753 says:

    It couldn’t have happened to a “woker” corporation. I knew where this was heading with Shultz on the board. Is he going to run for the Senate or what? With “I ran my company to the ground with silly SJW antics” in his resume, he’ll fit right in with the Democrats, or the cuckiest branch of the Republicans.

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    Where does he reside? The freaks in Washington State might elect him Governor or US Senator, don’t bet against it. He’s got unlimited funds plus presumably mass media that are mostly in the bag for him (or any Jewish and/or white-harming Democrat).
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  53. Anonymous[264] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Homeless people, swamp Starbucks!!!

    I'm loving this.

    To appease blacks, Starbucks should rename itself Bump-n-Grind

    I hear Starbuck’s newest drink is the Ghet-to Espresso, a vibrant, dark roast to kick-start your day.

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  54. George says:

    150 stores?

    Mx Internet says:
    Today, not only are there over 13,000 Starbucks stores in the United States, but there are more than of 13,000 in other locations around the world. Of the U.S. based stores, 8,222 are company owned, the remaining 5,708 stores are licensed.

    The 150 number seems normal to me.

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  55. … “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”…

    Starbucks burnt coffee vs Meth. What a choice.

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    Choose life. Choose meth.
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  56. So they’re closing locations where people tend to hang out without buying much product. Wow, SBUX might be returning to a Buy after all.

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  57. @anony-mouse
    ... “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”...

    Starbucks burnt coffee vs Meth. What a choice.

    Choose life. Choose meth.

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  58. MarcB. says:

    Flyover country may have felt validated when Starbuck’s finally got around to opening locations around here in the early 2000′s, but it has lost most of it’s cache. It’s become just another place to get coffee, and the more discerning types prefer locally owned shops.

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  59. Tyrion 2 says: • Website

    Starbucks has not been thought of as a choice for the discerning for a very long time. I’m surprised by how, in something as faddy as coffee, they’ve prospered for so long. I imagine that is the urbanite in me speaking though. Then again, Starbucks clearly didn’t realise that their best potential future was in being the most professional cafe in more prosaic locations. Like Olive Garden is for Italian restaurants. Otherwise, they might have not have chosen to alienate their niche!

    Also, their baristas always look at me snobbily when I ask for a filter and nothing else. So I mostly take my small business elsewhere.

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    Serendipitous things like the one in the center of my SWPLville being inundated at the end of the school day with hordes of tweens and teens ordering $6, 550-calorie chocolate mocha frappuccinos (more than TWICE the calories of a 20 oz. Coke).

    The district manager was quite pleased with that development. Learned behaviors and disposable income.
    , @Anon
    I’m surprised by how, in something as faddy as coffee, they’ve prospered for so long.

    Coffee isn't a fad. It's a drug.
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  60. Ximenes says:
    @newrouter
    "The closing stores are often in “major metro areas where increases in wage and occupancy and other regulatory requirements” are making them unprofitable, Johnson said. “Now, in a lot of ways, it's middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”

    "Good luck" with that. Maybe do a #knee too!

    “The closing stores are often in “major metro areas where increases in wage and occupancy and other regulatory requirements” are making them unprofitable, Johnson said…”

    They are also in major metro areas where many street people are likely to drop in, not buy anything, and then refuse to leave when asked.

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  61. Corvinus says:
    @JimB

    “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”
     
    Too bad Starbucks has alienated middle America and the South with their lefty politics.

    “Too bad Starbucks has alienated middle America and the South with their lefty politics.”

    Indeed, as this company is suffering profit margin wise. Oh, wait…

    https://news.starbucks.com/press-releases/starbucks-q1-fy18-earnings

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    Nice try, Corvy, but Q1 means nothing.

    http://busystock.com/i.php?s=SBUX

    My prediction is that it'll never be $80 again...ever.

    Their La Boulange acquisition was an epic fail. Their replacement of Tazo tea when the purchased Teavana alienated a lot of people I know, and now that has become another fail. Now they're dealing with their failure to control the use of their stores by bumping up the price of regular coffee.

    https://apnews.com/a7c167cf163b45688fd7fa22da0c0eb0

    My own thought on this is they've decided to charge "rent" on the Keyboard Kampers, almost all of whom buy a small regular coffee. It hardly makes any difference to me, as my initial purchase and 2-3 free refills average the price down quite nicely.

    What makes this increase stand out to me, though, is that a large dark roast at the private shop around the corner from me is now 25 cents cheaper. Dunks, because I get hazelnut in my coffee, is now 70 cents cheaper than Starbucks because Dunks doesn't charge for the flavor shot. If Dunks and the private guys hold the line, this could get real interesting.

    Anecdotally, one of the three Dunks in town was renovated last year to add a cafe. There were never many people there, but there's been a measurable uptick in keyboard warriors there.
    , @Brutusale
    And the Street has weighed in, Corvy.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/20/starbucks-burned-social-justice-appeasement-growth/

    Money shot:
    "The market wasn’t impressed. Starbucks shares fell Wednesday by 10 percent, hitting their lowest point in 52 weeks, while Morgan Stanley downgraded the company’s investment rating, citing flat growth in China and the decision to lower third-quarter U.S. growth projections from 3 to 1 percent."
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  62. Brutusale says:
    @Corvinus
    "Too bad Starbucks has alienated middle America and the South with their lefty politics."

    Indeed, as this company is suffering profit margin wise. Oh, wait...

    https://news.starbucks.com/press-releases/starbucks-q1-fy18-earnings

    Nice try, Corvy, but Q1 means nothing.

    http://busystock.com/i.php?s=SBUX

    My prediction is that it’ll never be $80 again…ever.

    Their La Boulange acquisition was an epic fail. Their replacement of Tazo tea when the purchased Teavana alienated a lot of people I know, and now that has become another fail. Now they’re dealing with their failure to control the use of their stores by bumping up the price of regular coffee.

    https://apnews.com/a7c167cf163b45688fd7fa22da0c0eb0

    My own thought on this is they’ve decided to charge “rent” on the Keyboard Kampers, almost all of whom buy a small regular coffee. It hardly makes any difference to me, as my initial purchase and 2-3 free refills average the price down quite nicely.

    What makes this increase stand out to me, though, is that a large dark roast at the private shop around the corner from me is now 25 cents cheaper. Dunks, because I get hazelnut in my coffee, is now 70 cents cheaper than Starbucks because Dunks doesn’t charge for the flavor shot. If Dunks and the private guys hold the line, this could get real interesting.

    Anecdotally, one of the three Dunks in town was renovated last year to add a cafe. There were never many people there, but there’s been a measurable uptick in keyboard warriors there.

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  63. OT:

    Dozens Of Groups Considering Lawsuits Against The SPLC In Wake Of Settlement

    https://hotair.com/archives/2018/06/19/dozens-groups-considering-lawsuits-splc-wake-settlement/

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    If they win after a trial, good luck collecting the judgements from the Cayman Island bank accounts.
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  64. Brutusale says:
    @Tyrion 2
    Starbucks has not been thought of as a choice for the discerning for a very long time. I'm surprised by how, in something as faddy as coffee, they've prospered for so long. I imagine that is the urbanite in me speaking though. Then again, Starbucks clearly didn't realise that their best potential future was in being the most professional cafe in more prosaic locations. Like Olive Garden is for Italian restaurants. Otherwise, they might have not have chosen to alienate their niche!

    Also, their baristas always look at me snobbily when I ask for a filter and nothing else. So I mostly take my small business elsewhere.

    Serendipitous things like the one in the center of my SWPLville being inundated at the end of the school day with hordes of tweens and teens ordering $6, 550-calorie chocolate mocha frappuccinos (more than TWICE the calories of a 20 oz. Coke).

    The district manager was quite pleased with that development. Learned behaviors and disposable income.

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  65. JimB says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Only the racist buttholes

    Good ting that the country is getting more diverse and white virus are bearing Children of Color

    Only white men have a problem with "lefty" politics. It's why we have to go

    As Leonard Pitts has pointed out White men have had 500 years of affirmative action

    As Leonard Pitts has pointed out White men have had 500 years of affirmative action

    That statement makes no sense. What governing entity of a large multiracial society gave white men affirmative action for the past five centuries to address the past wrongs of white slavery, the Ottoman empire? I have no idea who Leonard Pitts is, but based on this one statement I’ll wager he’s a bloviating ignoramus.

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    Leonard Pitts is a nationally-syndicated race-baiting columnist for the Miami Herald.

    This is typical of his oeuvre:
    https://www.limaohio.com/top-stories/296363/leonard-pitts-jr-racism-is-a-white-problem

    Another Herald alum, sports columnist/ESPN host Dan LeBatard, is the biggest jock-sniffing afflete apologist in the business. (“If you want a stud on Sunday afternoon, then don’t expect a saint on Friday night.”)
    , @KenH
    Exactly. And whites were 90% of the population of this nation until 1965. So it's like saying the Japanese or Chinese were beneficiaries of affirmative action in their own racially homogeneous nations. A totally stupid argument that blacks and leftists routinely put forth to guilt trip us.

    Tiny Duck will be changing his handle to tiny brain.
    , @Tiny Duck
    He is a Pulitzer prize winning writer

    He has seven children
    , @I, commenter

    I have no idea who Leonard Pitts is, but based on this one statement I’ll wager he’s a bloviating ignoramus.
     
    In case you haven't noticed. the more outrageously stupid the comment by a progressive, the better, it shows your devotion to the true faith by believing something in complete defiance of reality.
    , @MBlanc46
    A black racist bloviating ignoramus.
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  66. @Tiny Duck
    Only the racist buttholes

    Good ting that the country is getting more diverse and white virus are bearing Children of Color

    Only white men have a problem with "lefty" politics. It's why we have to go

    As Leonard Pitts has pointed out White men have had 500 years of affirmative action

    Only white men have a problem with “lefty” politics. It’s why we have to go

    Self hate is no condemnation. But in your particular case, I’ll make an exception.

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    TD isn’t White. He is Leonard Pitts trolling and trying to steer people to his web page and get income from the clicks. Notice how he keeps telling everybody to check out LP, but never any other sites.
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  67. Who’d have thunk it possible that there wouldn’t be a continuous booming market of monied hipsters dying to sit down with a five dollar cup of Sumatra mud in order to observe unwashed urban entrepreneurs conduct marathon discussions about their business plans over a free magic cup of nothing?

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    I hate to be a defender of this particular corporate entity, but that large cup of Sumatra mud costs $2.70. And they can sit there and drink free refills all day.
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  68. Anonymous[282] • Disclaimer says:

    Of course Sbucks has no money, after giving away scholarships and rewards for loitering illegally. They’ve been in the toilet since they declared war on Christians and Christmas.

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  69. @JimB

    As Leonard Pitts has pointed out White men have had 500 years of affirmative action
     
    That statement makes no sense. What governing entity of a large multiracial society gave white men affirmative action for the past five centuries to address the past wrongs of white slavery, the Ottoman empire? I have no idea who Leonard Pitts is, but based on this one statement I'll wager he's a bloviating ignoramus.

    Leonard Pitts is a nationally-syndicated race-baiting columnist for the Miami Herald.

    This is typical of his oeuvre:

    https://www.limaohio.com/top-stories/296363/leonard-pitts-jr-racism-is-a-white-problem

    Another Herald alum, sports columnist/ESPN host Dan LeBatard, is the biggest jock-sniffing afflete apologist in the business. (“If you want a stud on Sunday afternoon, then don’t expect a saint on Friday night.”)

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  70. donut says:
    @JimB

    “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”
     
    Too bad Starbucks has alienated middle America and the South with their lefty politics.

    You got a twofer .

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  71. KenH says:
    @JimB

    As Leonard Pitts has pointed out White men have had 500 years of affirmative action
     
    That statement makes no sense. What governing entity of a large multiracial society gave white men affirmative action for the past five centuries to address the past wrongs of white slavery, the Ottoman empire? I have no idea who Leonard Pitts is, but based on this one statement I'll wager he's a bloviating ignoramus.

    Exactly. And whites were 90% of the population of this nation until 1965. So it’s like saying the Japanese or Chinese were beneficiaries of affirmative action in their own racially homogeneous nations. A totally stupid argument that blacks and leftists routinely put forth to guilt trip us.

    Tiny Duck will be changing his handle to tiny brain.

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  72. KenH says:

    With Starbucks closing stores in the cities will the black activists and SJW’s going to whine that the inner cities are becoming latte deserts?

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    With Starbucks closing stores in the cities will the black activists and SJW’s going to whine that the inner cities are becoming latte deserts?
     
    Expect NPR stories on this grave social injustice anyday now.
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  73. So they are closing down stores where there are lots of homeless people and lots of black people, and opening stores where there are lots of white people.

    Makes sense.

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  74. Tiny Duck says:
    @JimB

    As Leonard Pitts has pointed out White men have had 500 years of affirmative action
     
    That statement makes no sense. What governing entity of a large multiracial society gave white men affirmative action for the past five centuries to address the past wrongs of white slavery, the Ottoman empire? I have no idea who Leonard Pitts is, but based on this one statement I'll wager he's a bloviating ignoramus.

    He is a Pulitzer prize winning writer

    He has seven children

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    He has seven children
     
    So Leonard Pitts is a bloviating, fornicating ignoramus who doesn’t wear a condom. What’s your point?
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  75. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    Leslie Patton writes, "Starbucks is now pumping the brakes on licensed and company-operated locations". Why is Leslie Patton using a brake-pumping metaphor? How old is he/she? For a few decades now, pumping a car's brakes on a slippery surface is something that drivers are instructed not to do, because the car's electronics does that in an optimal way that a human driver cannot achieve.

    Old idioms die hard.

    Plus women don’t know squat about cars.

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  76. @JimB

    As Leonard Pitts has pointed out White men have had 500 years of affirmative action
     
    That statement makes no sense. What governing entity of a large multiracial society gave white men affirmative action for the past five centuries to address the past wrongs of white slavery, the Ottoman empire? I have no idea who Leonard Pitts is, but based on this one statement I'll wager he's a bloviating ignoramus.

    I have no idea who Leonard Pitts is, but based on this one statement I’ll wager he’s a bloviating ignoramus.

    In case you haven’t noticed. the more outrageously stupid the comment by a progressive, the better, it shows your devotion to the true faith by believing something in complete defiance of reality.

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  77. @Anon
    "So, crisis management, here's how we're going to handle this. Those chip on the shoulder blacks, we'll pay them off and then do a big bullshit dog and pony anti bias thing at all the stories. Then wait a month. Have research make a list of shops with the highest percentage of blacks in the neighborhood. Shut those stores.

    "Also, classical music, baroque, twenty four seven in all stores. Once the facial recognition system is installed company wide we can switch to a dynamic system that only cues up the classical music when a swarthily completioned customer walks in."

    The trouble with these sorts of strategies–which are eminently sensible–is that they are hard to implement when you can’t leave any sort of paper (inc. electronic) trail of what you’re actually up to.

    You have to call for ideas, bounce around ideas, develop and discuss plans, and push through implementation without ever saying what the goals are. In fact, you have to be really careful never to say what the goals are because your own organization will not just be full of progs–progs are fine with keeping their lives “gentrified”–but will have SJWs who upon stumbling on bad think will raise a fuss and/or leak.

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  78. Alfa158 says:
    @Verymuchalive

    Only white men have a problem with “lefty” politics. It’s why we have to go
     
    Self hate is no condemnation. But in your particular case, I'll make an exception.

    TD isn’t White. He is Leonard Pitts trolling and trying to steer people to his web page and get income from the clicks. Notice how he keeps telling everybody to check out LP, but never any other sites.

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  79. Anon[306] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2
    Starbucks has not been thought of as a choice for the discerning for a very long time. I'm surprised by how, in something as faddy as coffee, they've prospered for so long. I imagine that is the urbanite in me speaking though. Then again, Starbucks clearly didn't realise that their best potential future was in being the most professional cafe in more prosaic locations. Like Olive Garden is for Italian restaurants. Otherwise, they might have not have chosen to alienate their niche!

    Also, their baristas always look at me snobbily when I ask for a filter and nothing else. So I mostly take my small business elsewhere.

    I’m surprised by how, in something as faddy as coffee, they’ve prospered for so long.

    Coffee isn’t a fad. It’s a drug.

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    Sorry, I meant that coffee consumers, especially those who do so in cafes, are especially prone to faddiness as regards their habit.

    Also, while coffee is a drug, it is qualitatively less fun than what are commonly considered drugs, including alcohol and perhaps even cigarettes.
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  80. Anon[383] • Disclaimer says:

    “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”

    Starbucks is in a lot of trouble then. Like Steve Jobs, Schultz was selling an image – millennial urban coolness – and not just a product. Now that they want to sell to ordinary, non-cool people, they’ll have trouble…but maybe I’m misreading and Starbucks wasn’t as profitable as people thought and now the new management has decided that it cares more about money than about being in the cool kids club.

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  81. Anon[306] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brutusale
    Nice try, Corvy, but Q1 means nothing.

    http://busystock.com/i.php?s=SBUX

    My prediction is that it'll never be $80 again...ever.

    Their La Boulange acquisition was an epic fail. Their replacement of Tazo tea when the purchased Teavana alienated a lot of people I know, and now that has become another fail. Now they're dealing with their failure to control the use of their stores by bumping up the price of regular coffee.

    https://apnews.com/a7c167cf163b45688fd7fa22da0c0eb0

    My own thought on this is they've decided to charge "rent" on the Keyboard Kampers, almost all of whom buy a small regular coffee. It hardly makes any difference to me, as my initial purchase and 2-3 free refills average the price down quite nicely.

    What makes this increase stand out to me, though, is that a large dark roast at the private shop around the corner from me is now 25 cents cheaper. Dunks, because I get hazelnut in my coffee, is now 70 cents cheaper than Starbucks because Dunks doesn't charge for the flavor shot. If Dunks and the private guys hold the line, this could get real interesting.

    Anecdotally, one of the three Dunks in town was renovated last year to add a cafe. There were never many people there, but there's been a measurable uptick in keyboard warriors there.

    How are you able to get free refills?

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    Starbucks loyalty card/app. Gold members get free refills on regular hot and iced coffee.

    Starbucks does have some creative people. They found a way to get the growing crowd of iced coffee drinkers to pony up more money (cold brew) and now even more with the "nitro" iced coffee tap, which makes the hipster Guinness drinkers swoon.
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  82. Anon[383] • Disclaimer says:

    “Only white men have a problem with “lefty” politics.”

    Try moving into a poor black neighborhood if you are a white gay man. Your neighbors will make sure you know all about their politics.

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  83. Anon[208] • Disclaimer says:

    “Nice try, Corvy, but Q1 means nothing.”

    He has a history of lying to suit his purposes. There must be some kind of link between leftism and pathological misrepresentation for one’s own ends (sociopathology?).

    For example:

    “Indeed, as this company is suffering profit margin wise. Oh, wait…”

    The quote given in the article clearly implies Starbucks wants to further profit growth by expanding into those regions which they believe have profit generating potential, not that they need to grow their business because they are out of money. Therefore, the poster’s comment – “Too bad Starbucks has alienated middle America and the South with their lefty politics” – is absolutely on point. You misconstrued the point of the article and the point of the post you quoted.

    But maybe I’m just mistaking a low IQ for lying because “lying” implies that one understands a subject but chooses not to represent it correctly. In that case, all you’ve done here is demonstrate your incompetence.

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  84. Anon[208] • Disclaimer says:

    “Starbucks burnt coffee vs Meth. What a choice.”

    Your autism is showing. Is there a cream for that?

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  85. Barnard says:
    @Seamus Padraig

    With the way their price for a cup of coffee has been going lately maybe they should rename themselves Sawbucks.
     
    A guy I knew years back used to call the place Four Bucks, because, he would say, "I can't hardly get out of there without paying at least four bucks." That was before inflation, of course.

    When McDonald’s starting selling specialty coffee drinks they put up a billboard near Starbucks headquarters that read, “$4 is dumb.” I think they were able to develop some market share by selling a similar product at a lower price without the snobbery.

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  86. Anon[208] • Disclaimer says:

    “I’m surprised by how, in something as faddy as coffee, they’ve prospered for so long.”

    Starbucks was never about the coffee. It was about selling an image of coolness to millennial hipsters while simultaneously allowing such types to gather and socialize without the distraction of being surrounded by lower order types – blacks, white trash, old people. To understand this, try going to any other place in a large urban area that one might think of as “intellectual” or “cool.”

    Public libraries: modern day homeless shelters, lots of poor minorities, quiet, smelly.

    Book stores: more close every day.

    Comic book stores: they don’t really let you socialize because they not the social type.

    University libraries: often closed to non-students.

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  87. Clyde says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Only the racist buttholes

    Good ting that the country is getting more diverse and white virus are bearing Children of Color

    Only white men have a problem with "lefty" politics. It's why we have to go

    As Leonard Pitts has pointed out White men have had 500 years of affirmative action

    As Leonard Pitts has pointed out White men have had 500 years of affirmative action

    L Pitz is an imbecile. The white people who settled, conquered Indian tribes, built, engineered America. Who fought and died or got injured in American wars. These European derived Americans got just plain action for their dreams and prosperity. They received action as compensation for all their contributions. They secured action for their offspring and descendants. Strike out the word affirmative. They just got action because they were and are creators, builders, doers, inventors.
    What is crazy is all the black and Hispanic immigrants and “colored” third world immigrants and all their offspring who get affirmative action slots at school and at work.
    As far as American blacks with slave ancestors go. Affirmative action should have expired by now. They have had it for 50 years. You know who the other original beneficiaries of affirmative action were? Only American Indians. No mention of Hispanics or gays or women. What a joke AA has become. Liberal make a farce out of everything.

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  88. fitzGetty says:

    … bring a PICNIC … use the LATRINE … chat and LINGER ..

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  89. bomag says:
    @Anon
    The kids are the border, the kids at the border!!

    Send them back to their relatives if their parents are reckless enough to put them in such situation.

    https://abcnews.go.com/International/elian-gonzalez-recalls-moment-captured-iconic-photo-federal/story?id=31133827

    …the kids at the border

    A few years ago a loophole in Nebraska law allowed a child of any age to be abandoned at a hospital or fire station. Hilarity ensued.

    Apparently the thing now is to leave unwanted kids at the border.

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  90. Warner says:

    Couldn’t happen to a nicer company.

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  91. Joe Walker says: • Website

    I wonder if this means that young whites’ recent love affair with big cities is coming to an end and they are now moving away from the major urban centers?

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  92. @julius caesar
    OT:

    Dozens Of Groups Considering Lawsuits Against The SPLC In Wake Of Settlement

    https://hotair.com/archives/2018/06/19/dozens-groups-considering-lawsuits-splc-wake-settlement/

    If they win after a trial, good luck collecting the judgements from the Cayman Island bank accounts.

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  93. This may sound crazy, but I think Starbucks is quietly making it harder for the homeless to come in and use their bathrooms or their Wi-Fi. I just had a change in job duties about three weeks ago, and I am now on the road a lot more. I have been to five different Starbucks in the past three weeks, all in fairly affluent areas — one in a shopping center on Fairview in Costa Mesa, California, one near the Cal State campus in Fullerton, California, and three in Escondido, California. All five stores had locks on the bathroom doors, with a sign saying that bathrooms are for paying customers only, and that the code had to be obtained from the staff. Furthermore, three of the five stores had covered up their electrical outlets, so a person can’t plug in a laptop and surf the Web.

    Is anybody else seeing this? Is this a trend?

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  94. Karl says:
    @Anonymous
    I quit going to Starbucks when my employers quit using the local rancid office ooffee service and went to Uline's coffee.

    https://www.uline.com/BL_599/Coffee-Containers

    It's a surprisingly good blend.


    If it's hot chocolate you want, the best is to be had from the Mormons.
    Really.

    https://providentliving.lds.org/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations-map?
    What can I buy at a Home Storage Center?

    Prices effective as of January 1, 2018
    Hot Cocoa Mix $48.00 N/A
    Information Coming Soon

    6 Anonymous[427] > It’s a surprisingly good blend.

    unless it specifies otherwise IN WRITING on the package, I guarantee you that it’s not the same blend from production-run to production-run TAKE A LOOK at how little is promised to you IN WRITING on a bag of Starbucks coffee….

    When the day comes to plan the next production run, their Corporate Buyer emails his regular contacts and asks them for a quote. E.g., ArcherDanielsMidland

    the lowest bidders are selected, up to the quantity where they have enough to do a normal production-run, which by the way is in QUPs (Quantity of Unit Packaging) comprised of retail-able consumer sizes. E.g., 2 dozen 1-lb plastic “cans” per cardboard-box QUP. The cardboard box is sized to (surprise, surprise) get through a supermarket aisle on one of those cart things.

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  95. @anonymous
    The famous incident some time back involving the black loiterers being asked to leave seemed staged at the time. Now I think Starbucks itself may have had a hand in it. It gave them an excuse to remodel many of them with far fewer seats and the ones that remained are much less comfortable, discouraging sitting for long periods of time. Maybe they wanted to move to a buy and go model since that's where most of the revenue comes from anyway.

    “Maybe they wanted to move to a buy and go model since that’s where most of the revenue comes from anyway.”

    People stop at busy restaurants and drive past empty ones. If you want to be busy, you have to look busy.

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  96. TheBoom says:

    It is too bad that non leftist whites aren’t near the ethno nationalists as they are portrayed as being. It is the urban hipsters who love to hate on corporations while tapping on their iPhones and drinking a latte. No matter how much Starbucks hates on whitey, most whites love chain stores and will buy their overpriced swill if it is convenient UNLESS Starbucks succeeds in turning itself into the universally recognized home of the homeless. So, it is probably wise to shift growth to deplorable country. Of course, Starbucks can’t acknowledge they are avoiding more vibrant and culturally enriching expansion opportunities.

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  97. keuril says:
    @Triumph104
    https://youtu.be/lQKdEdzHnfU

    Back in the day, Starbucks was a kind of entry-level status symbol, in a Mercedes C-class sort of way. Before Starbucks, it was not obvious to most Americans why they should pay five dollars for a cup of coffee, so people who did so might carry their Starbucks cup around to low-key show off. Nowadays, Starbucks has about as much status as McDonald’s. This is something young people watching this scene might not realize—it’s not just making fun of Starbucks-within-Starbucks, but also the sort of snobby people who only deal with other people who went to law school, who buy all their clothes out of LL Bean catalogs (pre-internet), who are rich enough to go to Starbucks every weekend and get a Grande Espresso [LOL].
    Best in Show is so full of win, it’s hard to pick out a favorite character or scene, but the Psychotic Yuppie Couple might have been the most prophetic of the bunch. The stuff on Starbucks is a bit dated, but the Dog Psychologist was ahead of his time, anticipating an age where one unironically identifies as the parent of a canine.

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    Good assessment. I don't drink coffee, so the explanation is appreciated.
    , @Brutusale
    FYI, a double shot of espresso is $2.05, a quad is $2.90. There is no "Grande Espresso".

    Again, let's comment like we've actually been there.
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  98. @Anonymous
    I quit going to Starbucks when my employers quit using the local rancid office ooffee service and went to Uline's coffee.

    https://www.uline.com/BL_599/Coffee-Containers

    It's a surprisingly good blend.


    If it's hot chocolate you want, the best is to be had from the Mormons.
    Really.

    https://providentliving.lds.org/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations-map?
    What can I buy at a Home Storage Center?

    Prices effective as of January 1, 2018
    Hot Cocoa Mix $48.00 N/A
    Information Coming Soon

    Uline sez to me, “Urine”. A barely noticeable nit, but a nit still. Doesn’t anyone run a focus group on brands and names?

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    Uline is a company that sells packing and shipping materials, owned by the Uhlein family. The coffee is a side product, so they weren’t thinking of how the brand would be looked at for beverage marketing.
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  99. Anonymous[984] • Disclaimer says:

    Every time I have been in an Sbux there was a pair of people, one talking rapidly to the other about the former’s house-flipping scam into which the latter is being initiated, and the only person with a drink, purchased or otherwise, is the listener. Meanwhile they are tying up a free table for (what looks to be) a 30-minute-plus spiel.

    Most recent Sbux experience this rich white baby-boomer lady is carrying some purse-puppy dog and this provokes some exchange with the cashier–apparently the dog is the woman’s “service animal.” Actually she is holding the dog and it is not guiding or supporting her in any visible manner. Some kind of dispensation was verbally obtained. Then she invites in this older guy with her, also well-dressed, and *he’s* got a service purse-puppy too. N.B. I live in California where this lunacy is well advanced, but guess I should be thankful these were small cutesy fashion-accesory dogs incapable of making a huge mess. Steve, do you think “service animals” will become a status symbol after all, like being a reckless bicyclist? As recently as 5 years ago the concept was very low-rent and associated in the mass mind with vagabonds and cat ladies

    Also Sbux seems to play less (lite) jazz now. I frequently hear wimpish EDM or that type of ersatz r&b favored by gays and tween girls, e.g. 5th Harmony or Rihanna. Noticeably pop country seems to be making inroads

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    Service dogs can go anywhere; they have zero affect and are intelligent and well-trained as a dog can be. They also aren't purse dogs.

    "Emotional support" animals are a specious thing made up by crazy people for crazy people. You have no legal obligation to let one in your door, but you have to be prepared for the backlash from an organized protest by the local group of crazy people. Starbucks' official policy allows service animals, as they have to by law. What it doesn't do is keep individual store managers from making stupid decisions.

    The Starbucks I usually patronize has one of those Gen X guys who'll only enforce the tough rules when a customer makes him, and he can't seem to understand that once he let a "pet parent" come in with the dog, the floodgates would open, and his shift managers are the ones twisting in the wind because of it.

    FWIW, the craziest example of an emotion support animal was the crazy woman staggering through the Charlotte airport terminal dragging 2 pieces of luggage and CARRYING her emotional support German Shepherd!
    , @Anon
    I’ve seen a couple service dogs ensconced in pink doll size baby strollers with pink outfits and pink blankets. The owners or mommies were kind of frumpy with straggly hair
    but the dogs were all groomed and fixed up. Sad

    Some cat ladies let the cats walk around on the dining table.
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  100. @Anon
    "So, crisis management, here's how we're going to handle this. Those chip on the shoulder blacks, we'll pay them off and then do a big bullshit dog and pony anti bias thing at all the stories. Then wait a month. Have research make a list of shops with the highest percentage of blacks in the neighborhood. Shut those stores.

    "Also, classical music, baroque, twenty four seven in all stores. Once the facial recognition system is installed company wide we can switch to a dynamic system that only cues up the classical music when a swarthily completioned customer walks in."

    Isn’t the very strategy racist? It’s been long-known that Mozart drives off swarthy diversity. Mozart is White man music of the highest Nazi order. Complex with many harmonies, instruments, and even combined with an Opera, all are a sure-fire repellent to diversity. Christmas carols year-round can do the trick in particularly bad areas because it reminds the Blacks of all the Christmas mornings of their Yewts when they woke to a cold house, empty stockings and an afternoon drive-by.

    And so won’t the SJW-gangsters pile on to eliminate it?

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  101. @Triumph104
    https://youtu.be/lQKdEdzHnfU

    Vapid fits the description requirement for these two. Did they go to college to get stupid? Were they ever bright, or were they always morons?

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  102. @JimB

    “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”
     
    Too bad Starbucks has alienated middle America and the South with their lefty politics.

    Doesn’t this mean that the bizarre “black Starbucks” are being phased out?

    Sorry,negroes,but we don’t want you peeing here and yelling at us!

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  103. Over 14000 locations, 150 stores closing. Big deal. Still, isn’t closing the stores racist, given the demographic we KNOW they’re escaping? 150 stores. That would cover the worst stores’ environments in say, 30 or 40 cities, the worst of the worst. Newark, Baltimore, Detroit, several in Chicago, Memphis, Philly and whatnot.

    That’s strategic, not a retreat.

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  104. @JimB

    “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”
     
    Too bad Starbucks has alienated middle America and the South with their lefty politics.

    “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”

    Too bad Starbucks has alienated middle America and the South with their lefty politics.

    Nationalists, the “right”, really need to start building institutions of our own.

    We could use a nationalist/patriotic coffee company. We could use a nationalist/patriot alternative to Netflix and Facebook even more. But a Starbucks killer would be a great start.

    Not my mission–I don’t even drink the stuff. But it’s hardly a difficult industry to enter. And beating Starbucks on price and taste doesn’t seem like rocket science.

    “American Coffee”?
    “Patriot Coffee”?
    “July 4th Java”?
    “Red, White and Brew”?

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    Not coffee, but Mission BBQ locations are popping up around the East Coast:

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-bz-mission-bbq-growth-20170218-story.html

    Bill Belichick is reportedly a big fan.

    I find the daily anthem-playing at noon to be silly, but the food is decent.

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  105. JimB says:

    Nationalists, the “right”, really need to start building institutions of our own.

    How about building our own country. The red half of America needs to sue for a national divorce. Our other half sucks. And they’re ugly.

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  106. Anonymous[295] • Disclaimer says:

    “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”

    It grieves me to point out that Whites are so stupid we will continue to give money to this damned company, which fervently hates us.

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  107. @AnotherDad


    “Now, in a lot of ways, it’s middle America and the South that presents an opportunity.”
     
    Too bad Starbucks has alienated middle America and the South with their lefty politics.
     
    Nationalists, the "right", really need to start building institutions of our own.

    We could use a nationalist/patriotic coffee company. We could use a nationalist/patriot alternative to Netflix and Facebook even more. But a Starbucks killer would be a great start.

    Not my mission--I don't even drink the stuff. But it's hardly a difficult industry to enter. And beating Starbucks on price and taste doesn't seem like rocket science.

    "American Coffee"?
    "Patriot Coffee"?
    "July 4th Java"?
    "Red, White and Brew"?

    Not coffee, but Mission BBQ locations are popping up around the East Coast:

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-bz-mission-bbq-growth-20170218-story.html

    Bill Belichick is reportedly a big fan.

    I find the daily anthem-playing at noon to be silly, but the food is decent.

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  108. Anonymous[238] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian
    Uline sez to me, "Urine". A barely noticeable nit, but a nit still. Doesn't anyone run a focus group on brands and names?

    Uline is a company that sells packing and shipping materials, owned by the Uhlein family. The coffee is a side product, so they weren’t thinking of how the brand would be looked at for beverage marketing.

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  109. Brutusale says:
    @Corvinus
    "Too bad Starbucks has alienated middle America and the South with their lefty politics."

    Indeed, as this company is suffering profit margin wise. Oh, wait...

    https://news.starbucks.com/press-releases/starbucks-q1-fy18-earnings

    And the Street has weighed in, Corvy.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/20/starbucks-burned-social-justice-appeasement-growth/

    Money shot:
    “The market wasn’t impressed. Starbucks shares fell Wednesday by 10 percent, hitting their lowest point in 52 weeks, while Morgan Stanley downgraded the company’s investment rating, citing flat growth in China and the decision to lower third-quarter U.S. growth projections from 3 to 1 percent.”

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  110. @keuril
    Back in the day, Starbucks was a kind of entry-level status symbol, in a Mercedes C-class sort of way. Before Starbucks, it was not obvious to most Americans why they should pay five dollars for a cup of coffee, so people who did so might carry their Starbucks cup around to low-key show off. Nowadays, Starbucks has about as much status as McDonald’s. This is something young people watching this scene might not realize—it’s not just making fun of Starbucks-within-Starbucks, but also the sort of snobby people who only deal with other people who went to law school, who buy all their clothes out of LL Bean catalogs (pre-internet), who are rich enough to go to Starbucks every weekend and get a Grande Espresso [LOL].
    Best in Show is so full of win, it’s hard to pick out a favorite character or scene, but the Psychotic Yuppie Couple might have been the most prophetic of the bunch. The stuff on Starbucks is a bit dated, but the Dog Psychologist was ahead of his time, anticipating an age where one unironically identifies as the parent of a canine.

    Good assessment. I don’t drink coffee, so the explanation is appreciated.

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  111. Dillinger says:

    Isn’t it racist thatStarbucks is closing these stores in urban areas and opening more in the suburbs and rural areas? Were the blacktivists too much for them?

    I hope those two black guys in Philly are proud.

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  112. Dillinger says:
    @Chase
    OT (to this article, but on the only topic the media seems interested in covering), the disqualification in action:

    https://twitter.com/jivedurkey/status/1009226035215429632?s=21

    #howabsolutelydareyou

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  113. Brutusale says:
    @Anonymous
    Every time I have been in an Sbux there was a pair of people, one talking rapidly to the other about the former's house-flipping scam into which the latter is being initiated, and the only person with a drink, purchased or otherwise, is the listener. Meanwhile they are tying up a free table for (what looks to be) a 30-minute-plus spiel.

    Most recent Sbux experience this rich white baby-boomer lady is carrying some purse-puppy dog and this provokes some exchange with the cashier--apparently the dog is the woman's "service animal." Actually she is holding the dog and it is not guiding or supporting her in any visible manner. Some kind of dispensation was verbally obtained. Then she invites in this older guy with her, also well-dressed, and *he's* got a service purse-puppy too. N.B. I live in California where this lunacy is well advanced, but guess I should be thankful these were small cutesy fashion-accesory dogs incapable of making a huge mess. Steve, do you think "service animals" will become a status symbol after all, like being a reckless bicyclist? As recently as 5 years ago the concept was very low-rent and associated in the mass mind with vagabonds and cat ladies

    Also Sbux seems to play less (lite) jazz now. I frequently hear wimpish EDM or that type of ersatz r&b favored by gays and tween girls, e.g. 5th Harmony or Rihanna. Noticeably pop country seems to be making inroads

    Service dogs can go anywhere; they have zero affect and are intelligent and well-trained as a dog can be. They also aren’t purse dogs.

    “Emotional support” animals are a specious thing made up by crazy people for crazy people. You have no legal obligation to let one in your door, but you have to be prepared for the backlash from an organized protest by the local group of crazy people. Starbucks’ official policy allows service animals, as they have to by law. What it doesn’t do is keep individual store managers from making stupid decisions.

    The Starbucks I usually patronize has one of those Gen X guys who’ll only enforce the tough rules when a customer makes him, and he can’t seem to understand that once he let a “pet parent” come in with the dog, the floodgates would open, and his shift managers are the ones twisting in the wind because of it.

    FWIW, the craziest example of an emotion support animal was the crazy woman staggering through the Charlotte airport terminal dragging 2 pieces of luggage and CARRYING her emotional support German Shepherd!

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    California recently passed a sensible law for once. It’s a misdemeanor to represent a pet or emotional support animal as a real certified service animal. There’s a fine and a county jail sentence ha ha which will never happen.

    Some Beverly Hills restaurants have posted the big sign right on the front door. Emotional support dogs aren’t much of a problem here because emotional support dogs are mostly a WASP pretension/mental illness and there aren’t that many wasps in and around BH.

    Given that so many restaurants are owned by Asians who don’t like dogs and the a$$holes who drag them around I hope more restaurants will post that sign.

    I can always tell a real certified trained service dog. First they don’t bark, lunge and snarl at people. They stick as close to the owner as possible a couple inches behind.

    Miniature horses are allowed on Los Angeles city buses though if the owner claims it is for emotional support. I hope they wear miniature diapers.

    I wonder if those aggressive gay bike riders also parade around with emotional support animals because they are too emotionally fragile to go out by themselves? I bet it’s part of the same syndrome.
    , @Anon
    California recently passed a sensible law for once. It’s a misdemeanor to represent a pet or emotional support animal as a real certified service animal. There’s a fine and a county jail sentence ha ha which will never happen.

    Some Beverly Hills restaurants have posted the big no fake service dogs sign right on the front door. Emotional support dogs aren’t much of a problem here because emotional support dogs are mostly a WASP pretension/mental illness and there aren’t that many wasps in and around BH.

    Given that so many restaurants are owned by Asians who don’t like dogs and the a$$holes who drag them around I hope more restaurants will post that sign.

    I can always tell a real certified trained service dog. First they don’t bark, lunge and snarl at people. They stick as close to the owner as possible a couple inches behind.

    Miniature horses are allowed on Los Angeles city buses though, if the owner claims it is for emotional support. I hope they wear miniature diapers.

    I wonder if those aggressive gay bike riders also parade around with emotional support animals because they are too emotionally fragile to go out by themselves? I bet it’s part of the same syndrome.
    , @Anon
    Did you hear about the woman who brought her breeding pair of labs with her as service animals and the bitch whelped 8 pups right there in the boarding area? It was a couple months ago.

    Then there was the woman with her service peacock in the airport. How can a bird do a service? They have no brains. They can’t even offer affection like a dog

    Then there was the woman with the service pig napping in the aisle in everybody’s way. Lucky it looked like about 150pds, not one of those 400 pd bemouths.

    I walked by a store in the mall last year. I saw doll dresses, rows and rows displayed. Then I saw it was a pet store and realized the doll dresses were really dog outfits.

    We are doomed.
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  114. Brutusale says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter
    Who'd have thunk it possible that there wouldn't be a continuous booming market of monied hipsters dying to sit down with a five dollar cup of Sumatra mud in order to observe unwashed urban entrepreneurs conduct marathon discussions about their business plans over a free magic cup of nothing?

    I hate to be a defender of this particular corporate entity, but that large cup of Sumatra mud costs $2.70. And they can sit there and drink free refills all day.

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    Fair enough observation?? Me being hyperbolic?? Maybe, maybe not. The cup you refer to is pretty close to their "entry level" menu price point. Not everyone at McDonalds is eating a value menu hamburger and small fries with a cup of water. The Starbucks Medusa Siren Hag offers all kinds of blingy options for her Sumatra mud. Also, bear in mind that it doesn't cost Howie $2.70. It cost his hipster customers $2.70 plus state sales/hospitality taxes.

    Anyway, I'm glad to see that your are a hater.
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  115. Brutusale says:
    @Anon
    How are you able to get free refills?

    Starbucks loyalty card/app. Gold members get free refills on regular hot and iced coffee.

    Starbucks does have some creative people. They found a way to get the growing crowd of iced coffee drinkers to pony up more money (cold brew) and now even more with the “nitro” iced coffee tap, which makes the hipster Guinness drinkers swoon.

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  116. Tyrion 2 says: • Website
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    I’m surprised by how, in something as faddy as coffee, they’ve prospered for so long.

    Coffee isn't a fad. It's a drug.

    Sorry, I meant that coffee consumers, especially those who do so in cafes, are especially prone to faddiness as regards their habit.

    Also, while coffee is a drug, it is qualitatively less fun than what are commonly considered drugs, including alcohol and perhaps even cigarettes.

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  117. Brutusale says:
    @keuril
    Back in the day, Starbucks was a kind of entry-level status symbol, in a Mercedes C-class sort of way. Before Starbucks, it was not obvious to most Americans why they should pay five dollars for a cup of coffee, so people who did so might carry their Starbucks cup around to low-key show off. Nowadays, Starbucks has about as much status as McDonald’s. This is something young people watching this scene might not realize—it’s not just making fun of Starbucks-within-Starbucks, but also the sort of snobby people who only deal with other people who went to law school, who buy all their clothes out of LL Bean catalogs (pre-internet), who are rich enough to go to Starbucks every weekend and get a Grande Espresso [LOL].
    Best in Show is so full of win, it’s hard to pick out a favorite character or scene, but the Psychotic Yuppie Couple might have been the most prophetic of the bunch. The stuff on Starbucks is a bit dated, but the Dog Psychologist was ahead of his time, anticipating an age where one unironically identifies as the parent of a canine.

    FYI, a double shot of espresso is $2.05, a quad is $2.90. There is no “Grande Espresso”.

    Again, let’s comment like we’ve actually been there.

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    FYI, a double shot of espresso is $2.05, a quad is $2.90. There is no “Grande Espresso”.

    Again, let’s comment like we’ve actually been there.
     
    Why do you think I wrote [LOL] after Grande Espresso? Dumbass.
    , @Anon
    The posted menu is huge. It takes time to read it.
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  118. keuril says:
    @Brutusale
    FYI, a double shot of espresso is $2.05, a quad is $2.90. There is no "Grande Espresso".

    Again, let's comment like we've actually been there.

    FYI, a double shot of espresso is $2.05, a quad is $2.90. There is no “Grande Espresso”.

    Again, let’s comment like we’ve actually been there.

    Why do you think I wrote [LOL] after Grande Espresso? Dumbass.

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    Sorry, I'm an old man not up on your tween-speak, sweetie. GFY
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  119. Mr. Anon says:
    @KenH
    With Starbucks closing stores in the cities will the black activists and SJW's going to whine that the inner cities are becoming latte deserts?

    With Starbucks closing stores in the cities will the black activists and SJW’s going to whine that the inner cities are becoming latte deserts?

    Expect NPR stories on this grave social injustice anyday now.

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  120. @Jake
    So a company that absolutely despises the white Basket of Deplorables is now looking to the midwest and South. Let me guess: the company will manage to avoid opening new stores in or near black majority areas of Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, Memphis, Atlanta, New Orleans, Houston, etc.

    I call upon Black Lives Matter, the NAACP, the ADL, and the Southern Poverty Law Center to ship hordes of poor blacks to Starbucks stores located in low crime areas so the victims of racism can demand their Constitutional rights to use the restrooms of any businesses they want. I also plead that those civil rights groups demand that Starbucks add midnight basketball courts so young black males will feel comfortable in Starbucks.

    Yes. And normal Americans of all backgrounds should intentionally drive Starbucks down — especially white people who are constantly besmirched and lectured to by Starbucks.

    Sit in their stores without buying anything for hours. Use their bathrooms. Threaten to sue if they ask you to buy something or leave. Repeat collectively until the location is known for not having available seats. Bring an old Starbucks cup with you (or just ask for one and cause a stink if they won’t give it to you) and put it on the table if that helps.

    Nothing illegal or violent or intimidating, by any means. Just reciprocating the contempt that arrogant white-hating Starbucks and the anti-Christian bigot Schulz have shown our people and our nation.

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  121. @BB753
    It couldn't have happened to a "woker" corporation. I knew where this was heading with Shultz on the board. Is he going to run for the Senate or what? With "I ran my company to the ground with silly SJW antics" in his resume, he'll fit right in with the Democrats, or the cuckiest branch of the Republicans.

    Where does he reside? The freaks in Washington State might elect him Governor or US Senator, don’t bet against it. He’s got unlimited funds plus presumably mass media that are mostly in the bag for him (or any Jewish and/or white-harming Democrat).

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    We are doomed, as Derbyshire so aptly put it.
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  122. BB753 says:
    @RadicalCenter
    Where does he reside? The freaks in Washington State might elect him Governor or US Senator, don’t bet against it. He’s got unlimited funds plus presumably mass media that are mostly in the bag for him (or any Jewish and/or white-harming Democrat).

    We are doomed, as Derbyshire so aptly put it.

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  123. Not surprising and likely has little to do with the recent brouhaha. Starbucks were closing stores a few years back in over-saturated areas. In urban/city areas there are too many coffee shops and too many Starbucks for them all to make a decent profit.

    Even in my suburban area, there are stand-alone Starbucks, Starbucks inside the Barnes & Noble and Starbucks inside the Target, all with a few miles of each other. Now add in other coffee chains and cafes/delis, and it is pretty clear some of them will have to fold.

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  124. @Brutusale
    I hate to be a defender of this particular corporate entity, but that large cup of Sumatra mud costs $2.70. And they can sit there and drink free refills all day.

    Fair enough observation?? Me being hyperbolic?? Maybe, maybe not. The cup you refer to is pretty close to their “entry level” menu price point. Not everyone at McDonalds is eating a value menu hamburger and small fries with a cup of water. The Starbucks Medusa Siren Hag offers all kinds of blingy options for her Sumatra mud. Also, bear in mind that it doesn’t cost Howie $2.70. It cost his hipster customers $2.70 plus state sales/hospitality taxes.

    Anyway, I’m glad to see that your are a hater.

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    "Anyway, I’m glad to see that your are a hater." s/b "you're". I hope I've preemptively foiled the grammar po po from a pretextual stop and tasering.
    , @Brutusale
    Yet anyone with a brain and minimal concern for their health should be! Why should I order one of the shitty "coffee drinks", or "diabetes in a cup" as the baristas say? I just want a cup of joe; I'm not making a political statement. If I just wanted to cheap out, I'd order an espresso for $2.05. No free refills on espressos, though.

    Again, JB, that's the point I keep trying to make. People talk about the place like it's something that it isn't. People like me who use their policies against them are getting a pretty good deal, with the added bonus of being able to cause moonbat heads to explode, like I do with the Trump/Pence sticker on my laptop or my "I Just Neutered the Cat, Now He's a Liberal" t-shirt. I also can't think of any other place, outside of one affiliated with the Democratic Party, where I regularly get the opportunity to abuse my congresscritter, who lives in my town, and Senator Ed "The Ice Cream Man" Markey, whose make-believe address is in the less-than-genteel city next door.

    I also have to stand up for the employees. Some are blue-haired socialist freaks, but not nearly as many, in my area anyway, as legend has it. The strangest hair color at my Starbucks is worn by a woman with fluorescent red hair. She's also married to an active-duty Marine, has 3 kids with him and wears an American flag and a Globe & Anchor pin on her apron (and she's built like the proverbial brick shithouse). The Conquistador-Venezuelan shift manager may be the nicest guy I've ever met, an old-school gentleman, courtly. They all do their best to remember which of the dark roasts I don't like and serve me accordingly. Contrast to the Dunks where I'll be getting coffee tomorrow morning (early meeting). The staff there makes the UN look like a Klan meeting!

    Speaking of the Siren, the district manager didn't like the REAL Siren logo I had on my old laptop. You remember, the one with the boobs!

    https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/a97nV11_700b.jpg
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  125. @Jim Bob Lassiter
    Fair enough observation?? Me being hyperbolic?? Maybe, maybe not. The cup you refer to is pretty close to their "entry level" menu price point. Not everyone at McDonalds is eating a value menu hamburger and small fries with a cup of water. The Starbucks Medusa Siren Hag offers all kinds of blingy options for her Sumatra mud. Also, bear in mind that it doesn't cost Howie $2.70. It cost his hipster customers $2.70 plus state sales/hospitality taxes.

    Anyway, I'm glad to see that your are a hater.

    “Anyway, I’m glad to see that your are a hater.” s/b “you’re”. I hope I’ve preemptively foiled the grammar po po from a pretextual stop and tasering.

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  126. JimB says:
    @Tiny Duck
    He is a Pulitzer prize winning writer

    He has seven children

    He has seven children

    So Leonard Pitts is a bloviating, fornicating ignoramus who doesn’t wear a condom. What’s your point?

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  127. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    SBUX share price is -18% since the “public toilets” announcement. That’s a pretty steep price to pay for virtue signaling. Will get down another ~10%, I predict.

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  128. Dillinger says:

    Starbucks to Close Urban Stores and Open More in Suburbs: Women and Minorities Hit Hardest

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  129. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:

    I noticed the great liberal wants to get away from areas where there is upward pressure on wages. More efficiency means working at top speed because 2 people are doing the work of 3.

    Typical upper class, exploit the workers, pamper the welfare criminal class.

    Glad I don’t work at Starbucks. Ever tried 7/11 coffee? It’s really good. Best though is at home with warm half and half and a bit of cinnamon sugar that’s heavy on cinnamon light in sugar.

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  130. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brutusale
    FYI, a double shot of espresso is $2.05, a quad is $2.90. There is no "Grande Espresso".

    Again, let's comment like we've actually been there.

    The posted menu is huge. It takes time to read it.

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  131. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brutusale
    Service dogs can go anywhere; they have zero affect and are intelligent and well-trained as a dog can be. They also aren't purse dogs.

    "Emotional support" animals are a specious thing made up by crazy people for crazy people. You have no legal obligation to let one in your door, but you have to be prepared for the backlash from an organized protest by the local group of crazy people. Starbucks' official policy allows service animals, as they have to by law. What it doesn't do is keep individual store managers from making stupid decisions.

    The Starbucks I usually patronize has one of those Gen X guys who'll only enforce the tough rules when a customer makes him, and he can't seem to understand that once he let a "pet parent" come in with the dog, the floodgates would open, and his shift managers are the ones twisting in the wind because of it.

    FWIW, the craziest example of an emotion support animal was the crazy woman staggering through the Charlotte airport terminal dragging 2 pieces of luggage and CARRYING her emotional support German Shepherd!

    California recently passed a sensible law for once. It’s a misdemeanor to represent a pet or emotional support animal as a real certified service animal. There’s a fine and a county jail sentence ha ha which will never happen.

    Some Beverly Hills restaurants have posted the big sign right on the front door. Emotional support dogs aren’t much of a problem here because emotional support dogs are mostly a WASP pretension/mental illness and there aren’t that many wasps in and around BH.

    Given that so many restaurants are owned by Asians who don’t like dogs and the a$$holes who drag them around I hope more restaurants will post that sign.

    I can always tell a real certified trained service dog. First they don’t bark, lunge and snarl at people. They stick as close to the owner as possible a couple inches behind.

    Miniature horses are allowed on Los Angeles city buses though if the owner claims it is for emotional support. I hope they wear miniature diapers.

    I wonder if those aggressive gay bike riders also parade around with emotional support animals because they are too emotionally fragile to go out by themselves? I bet it’s part of the same syndrome.

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  132. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brutusale
    Service dogs can go anywhere; they have zero affect and are intelligent and well-trained as a dog can be. They also aren't purse dogs.

    "Emotional support" animals are a specious thing made up by crazy people for crazy people. You have no legal obligation to let one in your door, but you have to be prepared for the backlash from an organized protest by the local group of crazy people. Starbucks' official policy allows service animals, as they have to by law. What it doesn't do is keep individual store managers from making stupid decisions.

    The Starbucks I usually patronize has one of those Gen X guys who'll only enforce the tough rules when a customer makes him, and he can't seem to understand that once he let a "pet parent" come in with the dog, the floodgates would open, and his shift managers are the ones twisting in the wind because of it.

    FWIW, the craziest example of an emotion support animal was the crazy woman staggering through the Charlotte airport terminal dragging 2 pieces of luggage and CARRYING her emotional support German Shepherd!

    California recently passed a sensible law for once. It’s a misdemeanor to represent a pet or emotional support animal as a real certified service animal. There’s a fine and a county jail sentence ha ha which will never happen.

    Some Beverly Hills restaurants have posted the big no fake service dogs sign right on the front door. Emotional support dogs aren’t much of a problem here because emotional support dogs are mostly a WASP pretension/mental illness and there aren’t that many wasps in and around BH.

    Given that so many restaurants are owned by Asians who don’t like dogs and the a$$holes who drag them around I hope more restaurants will post that sign.

    I can always tell a real certified trained service dog. First they don’t bark, lunge and snarl at people. They stick as close to the owner as possible a couple inches behind.

    Miniature horses are allowed on Los Angeles city buses though, if the owner claims it is for emotional support. I hope they wear miniature diapers.

    I wonder if those aggressive gay bike riders also parade around with emotional support animals because they are too emotionally fragile to go out by themselves? I bet it’s part of the same syndrome.

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  133. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brutusale
    Service dogs can go anywhere; they have zero affect and are intelligent and well-trained as a dog can be. They also aren't purse dogs.

    "Emotional support" animals are a specious thing made up by crazy people for crazy people. You have no legal obligation to let one in your door, but you have to be prepared for the backlash from an organized protest by the local group of crazy people. Starbucks' official policy allows service animals, as they have to by law. What it doesn't do is keep individual store managers from making stupid decisions.

    The Starbucks I usually patronize has one of those Gen X guys who'll only enforce the tough rules when a customer makes him, and he can't seem to understand that once he let a "pet parent" come in with the dog, the floodgates would open, and his shift managers are the ones twisting in the wind because of it.

    FWIW, the craziest example of an emotion support animal was the crazy woman staggering through the Charlotte airport terminal dragging 2 pieces of luggage and CARRYING her emotional support German Shepherd!

    Did you hear about the woman who brought her breeding pair of labs with her as service animals and the bitch whelped 8 pups right there in the boarding area? It was a couple months ago.

    Then there was the woman with her service peacock in the airport. How can a bird do a service? They have no brains. They can’t even offer affection like a dog

    Then there was the woman with the service pig napping in the aisle in everybody’s way. Lucky it looked like about 150pds, not one of those 400 pd bemouths.

    I walked by a store in the mall last year. I saw doll dresses, rows and rows displayed. Then I saw it was a pet store and realized the doll dresses were really dog outfits.

    We are doomed.

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  134. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Every time I have been in an Sbux there was a pair of people, one talking rapidly to the other about the former's house-flipping scam into which the latter is being initiated, and the only person with a drink, purchased or otherwise, is the listener. Meanwhile they are tying up a free table for (what looks to be) a 30-minute-plus spiel.

    Most recent Sbux experience this rich white baby-boomer lady is carrying some purse-puppy dog and this provokes some exchange with the cashier--apparently the dog is the woman's "service animal." Actually she is holding the dog and it is not guiding or supporting her in any visible manner. Some kind of dispensation was verbally obtained. Then she invites in this older guy with her, also well-dressed, and *he's* got a service purse-puppy too. N.B. I live in California where this lunacy is well advanced, but guess I should be thankful these were small cutesy fashion-accesory dogs incapable of making a huge mess. Steve, do you think "service animals" will become a status symbol after all, like being a reckless bicyclist? As recently as 5 years ago the concept was very low-rent and associated in the mass mind with vagabonds and cat ladies

    Also Sbux seems to play less (lite) jazz now. I frequently hear wimpish EDM or that type of ersatz r&b favored by gays and tween girls, e.g. 5th Harmony or Rihanna. Noticeably pop country seems to be making inroads

    I’ve seen a couple service dogs ensconced in pink doll size baby strollers with pink outfits and pink blankets. The owners or mommies were kind of frumpy with straggly hair
    but the dogs were all groomed and fixed up. Sad

    Some cat ladies let the cats walk around on the dining table.

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  135. Brutusale says:
    @keuril

    FYI, a double shot of espresso is $2.05, a quad is $2.90. There is no “Grande Espresso”.

    Again, let’s comment like we’ve actually been there.
     
    Why do you think I wrote [LOL] after Grande Espresso? Dumbass.

    Sorry, I’m an old man not up on your tween-speak, sweetie. GFY

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  136. Brutusale says:
    @Jim Bob Lassiter
    Fair enough observation?? Me being hyperbolic?? Maybe, maybe not. The cup you refer to is pretty close to their "entry level" menu price point. Not everyone at McDonalds is eating a value menu hamburger and small fries with a cup of water. The Starbucks Medusa Siren Hag offers all kinds of blingy options for her Sumatra mud. Also, bear in mind that it doesn't cost Howie $2.70. It cost his hipster customers $2.70 plus state sales/hospitality taxes.

    Anyway, I'm glad to see that your are a hater.

    Yet anyone with a brain and minimal concern for their health should be! Why should I order one of the shitty “coffee drinks”, or “diabetes in a cup” as the baristas say? I just want a cup of joe; I’m not making a political statement. If I just wanted to cheap out, I’d order an espresso for $2.05. No free refills on espressos, though.

    Again, JB, that’s the point I keep trying to make. People talk about the place like it’s something that it isn’t. People like me who use their policies against them are getting a pretty good deal, with the added bonus of being able to cause moonbat heads to explode, like I do with the Trump/Pence sticker on my laptop or my “I Just Neutered the Cat, Now He’s a Liberal” t-shirt. I also can’t think of any other place, outside of one affiliated with the Democratic Party, where I regularly get the opportunity to abuse my congresscritter, who lives in my town, and Senator Ed “The Ice Cream Man” Markey, whose make-believe address is in the less-than-genteel city next door.

    I also have to stand up for the employees. Some are blue-haired socialist freaks, but not nearly as many, in my area anyway, as legend has it. The strangest hair color at my Starbucks is worn by a woman with fluorescent red hair. She’s also married to an active-duty Marine, has 3 kids with him and wears an American flag and a Globe & Anchor pin on her apron (and she’s built like the proverbial brick shithouse). The Conquistador-Venezuelan shift manager may be the nicest guy I’ve ever met, an old-school gentleman, courtly. They all do their best to remember which of the dark roasts I don’t like and serve me accordingly. Contrast to the Dunks where I’ll be getting coffee tomorrow morning (early meeting). The staff there makes the UN look like a Klan meeting!

    Speaking of the Siren, the district manager didn’t like the REAL Siren logo I had on my old laptop. You remember, the one with the boobs!

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    You made my day. BTW, my Dunkin' Donuts is staffed by a bunch of overweight Chinese and Latino soy boys. In any case, I'm of very modest means and have a six cup a day decaf habit so most of my coffee is home brewed from different experimental blends of pre-ground grocery store decaf coffees I get when they're on sale.

    I guess you could call me a low budget coffee miscegenist.
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  137. MBlanc46 says:
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    As Leonard Pitts has pointed out White men have had 500 years of affirmative action
     
    That statement makes no sense. What governing entity of a large multiracial society gave white men affirmative action for the past five centuries to address the past wrongs of white slavery, the Ottoman empire? I have no idea who Leonard Pitts is, but based on this one statement I'll wager he's a bloviating ignoramus.

    A black racist bloviating ignoramus.

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  138. @Brutusale
    Yet anyone with a brain and minimal concern for their health should be! Why should I order one of the shitty "coffee drinks", or "diabetes in a cup" as the baristas say? I just want a cup of joe; I'm not making a political statement. If I just wanted to cheap out, I'd order an espresso for $2.05. No free refills on espressos, though.

    Again, JB, that's the point I keep trying to make. People talk about the place like it's something that it isn't. People like me who use their policies against them are getting a pretty good deal, with the added bonus of being able to cause moonbat heads to explode, like I do with the Trump/Pence sticker on my laptop or my "I Just Neutered the Cat, Now He's a Liberal" t-shirt. I also can't think of any other place, outside of one affiliated with the Democratic Party, where I regularly get the opportunity to abuse my congresscritter, who lives in my town, and Senator Ed "The Ice Cream Man" Markey, whose make-believe address is in the less-than-genteel city next door.

    I also have to stand up for the employees. Some are blue-haired socialist freaks, but not nearly as many, in my area anyway, as legend has it. The strangest hair color at my Starbucks is worn by a woman with fluorescent red hair. She's also married to an active-duty Marine, has 3 kids with him and wears an American flag and a Globe & Anchor pin on her apron (and she's built like the proverbial brick shithouse). The Conquistador-Venezuelan shift manager may be the nicest guy I've ever met, an old-school gentleman, courtly. They all do their best to remember which of the dark roasts I don't like and serve me accordingly. Contrast to the Dunks where I'll be getting coffee tomorrow morning (early meeting). The staff there makes the UN look like a Klan meeting!

    Speaking of the Siren, the district manager didn't like the REAL Siren logo I had on my old laptop. You remember, the one with the boobs!

    https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/a97nV11_700b.jpg

    You made my day. BTW, my Dunkin’ Donuts is staffed by a bunch of overweight Chinese and Latino soy boys. In any case, I’m of very modest means and have a six cup a day decaf habit so most of my coffee is home brewed from different experimental blends of pre-ground grocery store decaf coffees I get when they’re on sale.

    I guess you could call me a low budget coffee miscegenist.

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