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Old racist Europe

From the Associated Press:

Trump’s remarks about changing European culture draw ire

By JESSE J. HOLLAND and RUSSELL CONTRERAS

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s lament this week that immigration is “changing the culture” of Europe echoed rising anti-immigrant feelings on both sides of the Atlantic, where Europe and the United States are going through a demographic transformation that makes some of the white majority uncomfortable.

Historians and advocates immediately denounced Trump’s comments, saying such talk would encourage white nationalists.

“The way he put this argument about changing our culture … about Europe becoming less nice than it is, in other words, these people are here and they are making the culture crappy and making the place lesser, that’s straight out of the white supremacist/white nationalist playbook,” said Heidi Beirich, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence Project. …

Old racist Europe

It’s racist for Trump to like Europe to have European culture.

Trump, the grandson of a German immigrant and the son of a Scottish immigrant to the United States, repeated his contention at a news conference with British Prime Minister Theresa May:

“I just think it’s changing the culture. I think it’s a very negative thing for Europe. I think it’s very negative,” he said. “I think it’s very much hurt other parts of Europe. And I know it’s politically not necessarily correct to say that, but I’ll say it and I’ll say it loud. And I think they better watch themselves because you are changing culture, you are changing a lot of things.”

Beirich called those comments “racist.”

Claire M. Massey, a scholar at the Institute for British and North American Studies at Ernst-Moritz-Arndt Universität in Greifswald, Germany, said Trump’s comments were “awfully painful,” especially for the United Kingdom, where immigration has played a key role in rebuilding the country after World War II. “England and the United Kingdom wouldn’t be what it is today without immigrants,” she said.

New diverse Europe

Indeed. Think of what England was before: hideously white. I mean, what did white Englishmen ever accomplish?

Massey said Trump’s comments remind her of the rhetoric coming from neo-Nazis in Germany and Poland. The comments will embolden the far-right in Europe at a time when many European nations are already very diverse. …

The United States is also going through a demographic shift. The Census Bureau estimates that the country’s population will have more minorities than whites for the first time in 2043, a change due in part to higher birth rates among Hispanics and a stagnating or declining birth rate among blacks, whites and Asians. …

Paul A. Kramer, a Vanderbilt University historian who specializes in the politics of inequality in the United States, said Trump’s most recent comments were an intentional attempt to ally himself and his base in the United States with the far-right nationalist movements in Europe.

“The rising tide of white nationalism is something that he embraces, that he sees himself as participating in and that he wants to encourage,” Kramer said.

New diverse Europe

So far, the Establishment response to Trump’s statements is that only extreme right neo-Nazi white nationalists kind of like Europe being, you know, European.

The only people who want Europe to look more like Europe than like a Van Nuys strip mall are extremists.

Seriously, this seems like a really self-defeating political strategy.

Of course, for the SPLC, the more they redefine the average tourist’s desire to see the Europe of Europeans as hate, the more hate they can battle via their fundraising junk mail. Morris Dees didn’t get where he is today by leaving hundred dollar bills lying on the sidewalk.

 
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  1. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says:

    The Americanizaton of Europe.

    America was once Europeanized. It became New Europe. One huge mistake was Black Slavery.

    But since 1965, US decided to become color-colonized.

    And Europe decided to follow. Some European nations decided to Americanize itself more than America itself. They apparently want to become like Venezuela or Brazil. Good luck.

    Btw, this stuff about US being a nation of immigrants. Even if true, American History of Immigration was mostly ‘racist’ and ‘white supremacist’. It was a nation of European Immigration. And the reason for it was to replace American Indians with European stock people. So, immigration was ‘racist’ and ‘white supremacist’ invasion. It was to settle the continent with white folks.

    US immigration became essentially non-racial only with 1965 law. Until then, US immigration was pro-European and ‘white supremacist’. And Jews won out because of this fact because MOST Jews were in Europe. As fellow ‘Europeans’, Jews got access to the US. They benefited from ‘white supremacist’ immigration policy.

    So, here’s the funny thing. Even if US was a NOI or Nation of Immigrants, IMMIGRATION was mostly ‘white supremacist’ until the 1960s. US favored Europeans & Jews over all others from Asia, Middle East, and Africa. That’s why so many Euro-Jews got in. So, NOI was ‘racist’ for much of US history.

    Suppose US immigration policy had been color-neutral. Jews would have had to compete with all the world to get int the US. It was because US favored white immigrants that so many European Jews got favoritist access over all other peoples.

    But even if US immigration had been color-neutral from the beginning, it still would have been imperialist. After all, all the newcomers — white, Jewish, Asian, Muslim, black, etc — would have wanted to be part of white civilization than be with native Indians. They would have worked with whites to push Indians off Indian land. Chinese certainly collaborated with whites in laying down railroad to access Western lands that led to demise of Indian hold of those territories.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Pat Boyle
  2. Russ says:

    Reads like an SPLC press release, minimally edited by the Ass. Press into a “news” story.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes, ic1000, AndrewR
    • Replies: @AndrewR
  3. “England and the United Kingdom wouldn’t be what it is today without immigrants,” she said.

    Yep. Without immigrants, no grooming gangs, no terror bombings, no vibrant knifings, and no merciless mowing down of British pedestrians walking across a bridge. What a loss.

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  4. Rob McX says:

    America’s biggest hate group acting as the FDA of hate, telling the media and law enforcement which groups or persons they should regard as toxic, and filling their own coffers at the same time. It’s a great racket they’ve got going.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  5. Forbes says:

    Paul A. Kramer, a Vanderbilt University historian who specializes in the politics of inequality in the United States…

    Another professor of grievance studies.

    Should I laugh? Or cry?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    , @Desiderius
  6. Dan Hayes says:

    Steve

    Now that the $PLC has been successfully $ued why aren’t the ambulance chasers out in full force since potentially there is a whole lot of lawsuit lucre to be mined in Montomery.

    • Replies: @Hockamaw
    , @Karl
  7. @Anon

    Does the SPLC have an official explanation why an organization based in Montgomery, the buckle of the Black Belt, hires many more Jews than blacks? The local demography would predict the opposite.

    Unless Jews are smarter than blacks.

    Has any reporter ever asked Morris, Mark, or Heidi, on-camera, whether this is true?

    • LOL: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @KenH
  8. Way off topic, but the comedy, Trump, epic leftard stupidity, are too much to resist. Greenpeace moron flys para-copter directly over Trump on his golf course flying banner saying ‘under par’…

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6776097/donald-trump-security-scare-as-greenpeace-protester-paraglides/

    Sadly, he wasn’t shot down by the Secret Service using a SAM, or this could have been the best day ever.

  9. syonredux says:

    Claire M. Massey, a scholar at the Institute for British and North American Studies at Ernst-Moritz-Arndt Universität in Greifswald, Germany, said Trump’s comments were “awfully painful,” especially for the United Kingdom, where immigration has played a key role in rebuilding the country after World War II.

    Yeah, without the Windrush Generation, the UK would never have recovered from WW2….I mean, everybody knows how the UK’s leading scientific minds are all the children of Black immigrants…..

    “England and the United Kingdom wouldn’t be what it is today without immigrants,” she said.

    Truer words…..

    January 2018
    1) Steve Frank Navarez-Jara was the first person to be killed in 2018. The 20-year-old was stabbed on New Year’s Day in Islington. His family said they “pray to God that Steve’s death brings knife crime to an end.”

    2) Elizabeta Lacatusu, who came to London from Romania to work, was stabbed in Redbridge on 3 January. She was 44.

    3) Vijay Patel, 49, died on 6 January after being attacked outside a shop in Mill Hill.

    4) Daniel Frederick died at the age of 34 after being stabbed in Hackney on 8 January.

    5) Dami Odeyingbo was only 18 when he was stabbed on 9 January in Bromley. He died in hospital the next morning.

    6) Harry Uzoka worked as a model in London. The 25-year-old was killed after being stabbed in the heart in Shepherd’s Bush on 11 January.

    7) Seyed Azim Khan’s body was found in Ilford Cemetery with extensive head injuries in February, after he went missing on 24 January.

    8) Yaya Mbye was 26 when he died in hospital, having been stabbed in Stoke Newington on 28 January.

    9) Juan Olmos Saca died after being stabbed in the chest in Peckham on the 29 January. The 39-year-old spent a week in hospital but never recovered from his injuries.

    10) Lily-Mai Saint George was less than a year old when she was killed in Haringey on 31 January. The cause of death is currently unknown.

    11) Khader Saleh was stabbed at Wormwood Scrubs prison on 31 January. The 25-year-old’s brother said the inmate was “a young man trying to move on in his life”.

    February 2018
    12) Hassan Ozcan was just 19 when he died from multiple stab wounds in Barking on 3 February.

    13) Kwabena Nelson, a youth worker from Tottenham, died after being stabbed near his home on 3 February.

    14) Hannah Leonard, 55, was stabbed in a flat in Camden on 8 February.

    15) Sabri Chibani was 19 when he was stabbed in the chest in Streatham on 11 February.

    16) Bulent Kabala was the first person to die from a gunshot wound in 2018. The 41-year-old was shot on 12 February and died at the scene in Barnet.

    17) Saeeda Hussain, 54, was stabbed at an address in Ilford on 13 February and died from her injuries.

    18) Lord Promise Nkenda was just 17 when he was stabbed in Canning Town on Valentine’s Day.

    19) Mark Smith, 48, died from multiple injuries after being found unconscious in Waltham Forest on 15 February.

    20) Lewis Blackman was stabbed in the early hours of 18 February after attending a party in Kensington. He died aged 19.

    21) Jozef Boci suffered serious head injuries after being attacked on the street in Greenwich on 17 February. The 30-year-old was taken to hospital but died from his injuries just under a week later.

    22) Rotimi Oshibanjo was stabbed in Southall on 19 February. The 26-year-old died from his injuries.

    23) Sadiq Mohammed, 20, died after being stabbed in Camden on 20 February. His mother begged those with knives to stop using them and called for action from police.

    24) Abdikarim Hassan, 17, died on the same night after also being stabbed in Camden.

    25) A 24-year-old was shot and killed in Westminster on 20 February. Police are waiting for permission from the family to release the name of the victim.

    26) Michael Boyle died from a single stab wound to the chest. He was attacked on 25 February and died in hospital, aged 44, on 10 March.

    March 2018
    27) Christopher Beaumont was stabbed at an address in Hammersmith on 1 March. The 42-year-old died from his injuries.

    28) Laura Figueira, 47, was found dead at her home in Twickenham on 5 March having suffered from stab wounds. Later the same day, her husband and two young sons were discovered at Birling Gap seafront, East Sussex, with all three having died from multiple injuries consistent with falling from a height.

    29) Kelva Smith was 20 when he died after being stabbed in the abdomen in Croydon. His aunt said London’s issue with knife crime was “out of control”.

    30) Kelvin Odunuyi was shot outside a cinema in Wood Green on 8 March. He was 19 when he died.

    31) Julian Joseph, 36, died in hospital after being attacked on a bus in New Cross on 12 March and suffering a serious head injury.

    32) Nikolai Glushkov is the oldest person to have been killed in 2018 at the age of 68. He died from compression to the neck in New Malden on 13 March.

    33) Joseph William-Torres, 20, was shot in a car in Walthamstow on 14 March.

    34) Lyndon Davis was 18 when he was stabbed in Chadwell Heath on 14 March. He died a few hours later.

    35) Naomi Hersi was found with stab wounds at a hotel near Heathrow Airport on 16 March. The 36-year-old was pronounced dead 30 minutes later.

    36) Russell Jones, 23, died after suffering from stab injuries and a gunshot wound in Enfield on 17 March.

    37) Tyrone Silcott was 41 when he died after being stabbed in Hackney on 18 March.

    38) Balbir Johal was admitted to hospital with stab wounds after being attacked in Southall on 19 March. The 48-year-old died shortly after.

    39) A 41-year-old was stabbed in Waltham Forest on 19 March, but has yet to be formally identified by the police.

    40) Beniamin Pieknyi was 21 when he was found with stab wounds at the Stratford shopping centre on 20 March. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

    41) Abraham Badru, 26, was shot in Dalston on 25 March. He was described by his family as kind, bold and a “beautiful soul” who “hated confrontation”.

    42) A 59-year-old was killed in Barking on 25 March, but police have not released any more information or formally identified the victim.

    43) David Potter was found dead inside a house in Tooting High Street on 26 March. The 50-year-old had suffered from stab injuries.

    44) Reece Tshoma was 23 when he was stabbed in Plumstead on 29 March.

    45) Leyla Mtumwa, 36, was found with stab wounds at a home in Haringey on 30 March. She died from her injuries.

    46) An 80-year-old woman died in hospital after an incident in Camden on 31 March. Police have not given any more details.

    April 2018
    47) A 20-year-old was stabbed in Wandsworth on 1 April, but police have not formally identified the victim.

    48) Tanesha Melbourne-Blake died on 2 April after a drive-by shooting in Tottenham. Friends described the 17-year-old as a “very lovable little girl in the community”.

    49) Amaan Shakoor was shot in the face on 2 April in Walthamstow. The 16-year-old died a day later in hospital.

    50) Henry Vincent was stabbed at a house in Lewisham on 4 April. The 37-year-old was found collapsed in the street and died from his injuries a few hours later in hospital.

    51) Babatunde Akintayo Awofeso, 53, was pronounced dead at a bookmakers in Upper Clapton on 4 April following reports of an altercation with another man.

    52) Israel Ogunsola, 18, was stabbed to death in Hackney on 4 April. Police were alerted by a motorist and performed first aid but the teenager died at the scene.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43640475

    2017 was the worst year for acid attacks in London

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/26/europe/london-acid-attacks-2017-intl/index.html

  10. “England and the United Kingdom wouldn’t be what it is today without immigrants”

    Yes, that’s exactly the point. What they are today is not exactly their best shape, and what they are heading to become looks grim for both the natives and the immigrants.

    • Replies: @CCZ
    , @Thud
  11. Seriously, this seems like a really self-defeating political strategy.

    They’re still running the old play from the last century. I worry about when these wealthy and hostile organizations, like the SPLC, wise-up and adapt their game to the new political landscape. Eventually they’re going to get better at this. I think they’re going to try more carrot than stick on Whites pretty soon. They’re going to attempt to charm us in the next few years.

    • Agree: Svigor
  12. Cortes says:

    What’s really marvellous about the diversity of multiculturalism is how we in the UK adapt to the introduction of facets of life from Karachi and Ouagadougou and the like whereby quaint little things like red traffic lights blocking our direction of travel become, er, elective. Even for buses and heavy goods vehicles.

    What could possibly go wrong?

  13. @syonredux

    According to London’s Metropolitan Police, here’s the ethnic breakdown of the acid attacks.

    2011-2015

    Below is the breakdown from 2002-2016.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/5d38c003-c54a-4513-a369-f9eae0d52f91

    Ethnicity of Victim:

    25% Afro-Carribean
    45% White European
    19% Asian (Subcontinental)
    4.5% Dark European
    2.0% Arab/Egyptian
    2.0% Oriental
    2.5% Unknown

    Ethnicity of Suspect:

    38% Afro-Carribean
    32% White European
    6.0% Asian (Subcontinental)
    2.0% Dark European
    1.0% Arab/Egyptian
    1.0% Oriental
    20% Unknown

  14. Hmmm… You’re comparing (idealized) paintings of Europe’s past with photos of Europe’s present. Not hard to find photos of Europe’s past. Of course not all such photos look so great.

    Wanna see some photos from Europe from, say, exactly a century ago? https://www.google.ca/search?q=photos+July+1918&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwju-fj8haDcAhXi44MKHQUHDCUQsAR6BAgEEAE&biw=1440&bih=783

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
  15. Trump just does shtick for his base and this is no different. He’s less than worthless to the USA, even if he makes his base feel better about themselves.

    A tangible example is abolishing ICE. Many fewer would support that if not for Trump’s actions and statements. He could have turned many liberals against it but instead he’s made things go in the opposite direction.

    Likewise with EU. There are smart arguments Trump could make, but he simply lacks the smarts and patriotism to make them and his base is even worse off.

    Watch Trump fans smear me for pointing out the truth: defending their false idol is more important to them than things that would actually solve the problem of mass immigration.

  16. syonredux says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Ethnicity of Suspect:

    38% Afro-Carribean
    32% White European
    6.0% Asian (Subcontinental)
    2.0% Dark European
    1.0% Arab/Egyptian
    1.0% Oriental
    20% Unknown

    38% of the suspects are “Afro-Caribbean”:

    2011 Census results for London’s Black population:

    Black/African/Caribbean/Black British: African 573,931 7.0
    Black/African/Caribbean/Black British: Caribbean 344,597 4.2
    Black/African/Caribbean/Black British: Other Black 170,112 2.1
    Black/African/Caribbean/Black British: Total 1,088,640 13.3

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London

    I believe that the phrase is “disproportionate”…..

    • Replies: @Morris Applebaum IV
  17. istevefan says:

    The comments will embolden the far-right in Europe at a time when many European nations are already very diverse. …

    The United States is also going through a demographic shift.The Census Bureau estimates that the country’s population will have more minorities than whites for the first time in 2043, a change due in part to higher birth rates among Hispanics and a stagnating or declining birth rate among blacks, whites and Asians. …

    So they are acknowledging that many European nations are not just already diverse, but that they are VERY diverse. And they acknowledge the USA will become minority white in a couple decades. To a reasonable person that should mean we are diverse already, and are not in need of further immigration for the sake of diversity which is one of the supposed rationales among the left.

    This should serve as a reminder that our current leadership is never going to wake up one day and announce that we are officially diverse and can now get on with other things. It will keep on going until there are no significant pockets of white populations left to diversifty.

    • Replies: @bartok
  18. But if you do want paintings:

    • Replies: @syonredux
  19. syonredux says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Ethnicity of Suspect:

    38% Afro-Carribean
    32% White European
    6.0% Asian (Subcontinental)
    2.0% Dark European
    1.0% Arab/Egyptian
    1.0% Oriental
    20% Unknown

    So, 32% are White European, and 2% are Dark European….For a total of 34%

    And here’s the White pop. of London according to the 2011 census:

    White: English/Welsh/Scottish/Northern Irish/British 3,669,284 44.9
    White: Irish 175,974 2.2
    White: Gypsy or Irish Traveller 8,196 0.1
    White: Other White 1,033,981 12.6
    White: Total 4,887,435 59.8

    59.8% of the population is White European….Whereas White Europeans comprise only 34% of the acid attack suspects….

    Disproportionate…..

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  20. Lot says:

    The MSM and academia are insane asylums where it must accepted as a matter of faith and decency that Europe is improved by hordes of low IQ and high crime migrants who instantly create no-go zones, packs of burqa women, and feces and trash strewn squatter camps in parks and roadways.

    • LOL: BB753
  21. @syonredux

    If the homicide rate remains constant, London is on track to have an annual homicide rate of 2.0 per 100,000. For the past 5 years (including the current year), London’s homicide rate was 1.4 per 100,000.

    For comparison, the Non-Hispanic White homicide rate was 2.6 per 100,000 last year.

    Nationally, England’s homicide rate was approximately 1.0 per 100,000 last year.

    For the last 5 years, the average homicide rate in Boise, Idaho was 1.4 per 100,000. Provo, Utah had a homicide rate of 1.2 per 100,000. Scottsdale, Arizona had a homicide rate of 1.8 per 100,000. Missoula, Montana had a homicide rate of 2.0 per 100,000.

    So depending on the time period that we’re examining, London was comparable to violence-infused hell holes like Boise, Scottsdale, and Missoula.

  22. syonredux says:
    @anony-mouse

    But if you do want paintings:

    Rather doubt that the Muslim and Black invaders are going to start producing masterpieces anytime soon…..

  23. @syonredux

    London’s white population is relatively more affluent than the general White British population. So comparing Whites Londoners to White British is a bit like comparing White New Yorkers to White Americans. It’s a disproportionately affluent subset, who we’d expect to have a lower crime rate than the general White population.

    I’m not sure what the acid attack rate would be among a socioeconomically representative sample of White British, but the rate would almost assuredly be higher.

    However, we do know that an all-White London (with a similar socioeconomic distribution as the current White London population) would have an acid attack rate 43% lower. So this is pretty significant.

    I’m surprised by all the attacks involving blacks. I would’ve assumed that the perpetrators were Muslims, mainly of South Asian descent.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  24. Anonym says:

    You ought to include pictures of Heidi. Rightpedia.info is the first link. Well done internet!

    https://en.rightpedia.info/w/Heidi_Beirich

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Dissident
  25. syonredux says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    If the homicide rate remains constant, London is on track to have an annual homicide rate of 2.0 per 100,000. For the past 5 years (including the current year), London’s homicide rate was 1.4 per 100,000.

    And what would it be sans immigrants……

    For comparison, the Non-Hispanic White homicide rate was 2.6 per 100,000 last year. Nationally, England’s homicide rate was approximately 1.0 per 100,000 last year.

    So, sans immigrants, what would England’s rate be? .5 per 100,000? That would be pretty great…

    For the last 5 years, the average homicide rate in Boise, Idaho was 1.4 per 100,000. Provo, Utah had a homicide rate of 1.2 per 100,000. Scottsdale, Arizona had a homicide rate of 1.8 per 100,000. Missoula, Montana had a homicide rate of 2.0 per 100,000.

    So depending on the time period that we’re examining, London was comparable to violence-infused hell holes like Boise, Scottsdale, and Missoula.

    One expects better of London, dear fellow….and, sans immigrants, it would be better….

  26. syonredux says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    However, we do know that an all-White London (with a similar socioeconomic distribution as the current White London population) would have an acid attack rate 43% lower. So this is pretty significant.

    Indeed…..

    I’m surprised by all the attacks involving blacks. I would’ve assumed that the perpetrators were Muslims, mainly of South Asian descent.

    Blacks tend to be pretty violent…..introduce them to a new means of committing violent assault…..

    • Replies: @Dissident
  27. @Stan d Mute

    As these things go, I thought it was a funny pun. The environmentalist activist was protesting in favor of more immigration which is rather instructive of what constitutes environmentalism these days.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @AndrewR
  28. @anony-mouse

    Wanna see some photos from Europe from, say, exactly a century ago?

    So if I am following your logic here, Europe under mass immigration is comparable to life in Europe during the height of World War I? That is your best argument?

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  29. @JohnnyWalker123

    The world is full of bastards, the number increasing dramatically the further one gets from Missoula, Montana.

    (Sorry, I couldn’t resist.)

  30. fnn says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    And 13% of the suspects are “black- any other black background” -whatever that signifies beyond confusion.

    • Replies: @Them Guys
  31. @syonredux

    The greatest gift my father gave to us kids growing up was a house filled with books on art and poetry. From the earliest ages I can remember, I would pick up these books and stare for hours at these images of great paintings, sculptures and architects. When I got a little older, I would read the text accompanying the images. I love Western art. I feel genuinely connected to it in a deep and profound way.

  32. CCZ says:
    @ThirdWorldSteveReader


    “…what they are heading to become looks grim…”

    In some places what “we” are heading to is already here.

  33. Anon[332] • Disclaimer says:

    “The way he put this argument about changing our culture … about Europe becoming less nice than it is, in other words, these people are here and they are making the culture crappy and making the place lesser, that’s straight out of the white supremacist/white nationalist playbook,” said Heidi Beirich, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence Project. …

    I’m sure that there’s a name for this in rhetoric or logic, but this is a kind of argumentation that does not refute the claim, but rather goes somewhat ad hominem in trying to attach the claim to a discredited group.

    Sort of like “Bagels are good toasted.” “This is a culinary practice straight out of Zionist culture!”

    In a linearly scaled characteristic like politics, left to right, there are going ot be any number of issues that people on one side are going to differentially like more that those on the other. So if you have a scale from 0 for super left to 100 for super right, there will be things that people who are 40 will like that people who are 5 will also like, and ideas that people who rate a 70 agree with that people who rate a 95 will also agree with.

    You can’t tar an idea simply because extremists like it. You have to show that only extremists like it. By definition, Trump, who got supplort from about half the country, is not an extremist. Even if his statements since election lost him half his supporters, something that one quarter of the country agrees with cannot be extremist, by definition.

    There should be a snappy name by which this kind of falatious argument can be called out, and there probably is, but I don’t know it (so maybe it’s not snappy and memorable enough).

  34. Anon[332] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clifford Brown

    The environmentalist activist was protesting in favor of more immigration which is rather instructive of what constitutes environmentalism these days.

    A couple of years ago the Audobon Society published something that left the impression that they were turning into a climate change organization because if climate change is not arrested all birds will die anyway. With that logic, maybe they should also use their members’ dues to pay for earth-threatening asteroid interception projects.

  35. Hockamaw says:
    @Dan Hayes

    Now that the $PLC has been successfully $ued why aren’t the ambulance chasers out in full force since potentially there is a whole lot of lawsuit lucre to be mined in Montomery.

    This is news to me as a part time ambulance chaser and full time deplorable. What is the case?

    • Replies: @Brutusale
  36. @Cagey Beast

    I think they’re going to try more carrot than stick on Whites pretty soon.

    If the information age holds, it won’t work because we’re on to them.

  37. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonym

    She doesn’t need hate speech laws. She has the International Whaling Commission.

  38. Mr. Anon says:

    So far, the Establishment response to Trump’s statements is that only extreme right neo-Nazi white nationalists kind of like Europe being, you know, European.

    I don’t know for certain, but it seems to me that of the group ‘Americans who travel to Europe’, more are liberal than conservative. Presumably they like Europe because it is european, rather than being african, middle-easatern, or south-asian. And yet, the policies they support, or the comparable ones in Europe are destroying one of their favorite vacation destinations.

  39. bartok says:
    @24AheadDotCom

    Watch Trump fans smear me for pointing out the truth: defending their false idol is more important to them than things that would actually solve the problem of mass immigration.

    You’re so right, as Mitt Romney says, he’s actually more conservative than Trump on immigration. By his definition. Plus he’s more polite to liberals. (Actually communists, but whatever).

    Willard Mitt would come up with a super deal to ‘solve the problem of mass immigration’ – as a libertarian he would support Paul Ryan’s ‘any willing worker’ legislation. That way tens/hundreds of millions can come in as invited slaves (don’t call it mass immigration, call it balancing supply and demand).

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/13/immigration-paul-ryan-wages/

    • Replies: @Dissident
  40. bartok says:
    @istevefan

    This should serve as a reminder that our current leadership is never going to wake up one day and announce that we are officially diverse and can now get on with other things. It will keep on going until there are no significant pockets of white populations left to diversify.

    This is an extreme assumption. A more logical assumption is that the communists will let up once White countries “look like the world”; i.e. have a White population of 8%.

    8% White is a fine number, what are you complaining about? At least you’ll have the Constitution.

  41. Does this mean the SPLC will not be endorsing Trump?

  42. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Mr. Anon

    White people worship Blacks as the super race. No really . That’s why Fat Heidi went on the attack. Diversity is just worship of Black people as the Master Race.

    This is about 95% of White people.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    , @Mr. Anon
    , @Lovernios X
  43. FPD72 says:
    @Stan d Mute

    Wait, isn’t “under par” a better score than “above par?” I’m guessing the Greenpeace guy isn’t into competitive sports. Or is he praising Trump for helping the environment by reducing the flow of aliens from poor, low consumption countries?

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    , @PiltdownMan
  44. Anonym says:
    @bartok

    Please give a hand to these based non-whites who love the flag and muh constitution! Let’s stamp out racism together!

    SMH

  45. Dissident says:
    @24AheadDotCom

    Watch Trump fans smear me for pointing out the truth: defending their false idol is more important to them than things that would actually solve the problem of mass immigration.

    I’d like to see the Trump worshipers/ Kool Aid drinkers tell us (for one thing) why the President has said and done so little about mandatory e-Verify, for example.

    • Agree: Corn, Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @Flip
  46. istevefan says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I don’t know for certain, but it seems to me that of the group ‘Americans who travel to Europe’, more are liberal than conservative. Presumably they like Europe because it is european, rather than being african, middle-easatern, or south-asian. And yet, the policies they support, or the comparable ones in Europe are destroying one of their favorite vacation destinations.

    Liberals full well understand what is happening, but they are unable to publicly acknowledge it because of their inner conflict over not doing or saying anything that would appear racist.

    Case in point is PBS travel guru Rick Steeves. His travel shows focus almost exclusively on Europe. His hook is showing people how to travel with the least amount of luggage possible while saving money by staying away from big hotels and visiting popular destinations off season.

    Watching his shows, you never get the sense of the demographic change taking place in Europe. The only non-Europeans you usually see are tourists from Asia. It’s almost as if he goes out of his way to not document this historical population change.

    However, on his travel to Tallinn, Estonia, Rick finally pointed out the disastrous effects of demographic replacement. Here is a link to the point in the episode where he states this truth.

    As is clear in this predominately Russian market, the plantation of people, as it seems is always the case when governments move people for political purposes, leaves a poorer and struggling ethnic minority and their reluctance to assimilate leaves long-term social challenges.

    Of course Rick is not talking about non-European, third-world immigrants. No,he is talking about the disastrous effects of ethnic Russians messing up the place.

    So of course liberals know that demographic change causes problems. The above quote from Rick is really a pretty good quote that could be used to describe what is taking place right now. But liberals cannot bring themselves to vocalize it because of the inner turmoil they have over saying or doing anything others would perceive as racist.

    • Agree: julius caesar
  47. Dissident says:
    @syonredux

    Well, at least they’ve begun taking steps toward sensible, comprehensive knife control. I suppose acid control will be next.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Pericles
    , @sayless
  48. Karl says:
    @Dan Hayes

    6 Dan Hayes > Now that the $PLC has been successfully $ued why aren’t the ambulance chasers out in full force since potentially there is a whole lot of lawsuit lucre to be mined

    and THAT took a Muslim to do.

    By the overall evidence, white people are dull-witted

    I want to channel Yogi Berra and be Trump’s new speechwriter.

    ===My=== plan was for Trump to react to the most-recent indictment of Russians by saying:

    It’s a counter-intelligence matter, and our reaction is not going to get discussed in public. I can tell you that, when this stuff all actually happened in 2015 and 2016, President Obama acted secretly but forcefully, and I’m taking his actions as my guide in these matters”

    that would put the Democrats between a rock and a hard place.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
  49. Neoconned says:

    You know, there really is a way to deal with all this africanophilia…..identify the open birders racism screamers and round them up.

    If it’s so horrid here, strip them of their citizenship and fly them 1 way to the DRC….drop them in the middle of some aids shanty town and pay the local warlord a few hundred grand to deal with them…..

  50. Anonymous[984] • Disclaimer says:

    The sad fact is that the people who run Europe – the unelected unaccountable unanswerable EU Commissioners who have supreme, sovereign dictatorial power over the European people – slavishly follow The Economist, and the SPLC, as it happens.

    Just look at the sheer bile,hatred and contempt they’ve thrown at the Poles and Hungarians, for example, just because the Poles/Hungarians merely expressed scepticism at the folly of massive uncontrolled third world immigration into Europe.

  51. Anonymous[984] • Disclaimer says:

    The irony is that during the anti-colonial, independence era of third world history – recent enough to be in the living memory of many – thirdworlders, generally, had absolutely no qualms whatsoever about summarily throwing out Europeans in order to keep their nations ethnically monolithic.

    • Agree: Cloudbuster
    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
  52. If Washington was America’s founding classical liberal president, Roosevelt was America’s first progressive liberal president, and Reagan was America’s first neoliberal president, Trump is America’s first liberal populist president.

    Welcome to the fourth stage of liberalism SPLC.

  53. Hubbub says:

    If Europe is no longer Europe, then why bother?

  54. @bartok

    We could very well reach a stage where Mexico is more White than the United States.

    The only countries with significant White populations (percentage wise) in the Western Hemisphere will likely be Uruguay and Argentina.

  55. Dissident says:
    @Anonym

    You ought to include pictures of Heidi.

    What’s the point? Suppose Mx*. Beirich were nothing short of ravishing in appearance. Would that make xir* views, pronouncements or actions any less odious and pernicious in substance?

    I will repeat: Taking shots at people’s mere appearance is childish and petty and only detracts from legitimate criticism and condemnation.

    *From the photo, I am unable to determine whether Beirich is actually female or not.

    • Replies: @Anonym
  56. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Europe becoming less nice than it is, in other words, these people are here and they are making the culture crappy and making the place lesser, that’s straight out of the white supremacist/white nationalist playbook,” said Heidi Beirich

    How come she/it has a copy of this playbook and I don’t?

    Where can I get one?

    You can’t tar an idea simply because extremists like it.

    Allow me to introduce you to the Mass Media.

  57. Dissident says:
    @syonredux

    Blacks tend to be pretty violent

    When race-denialists parrot their “look to economics, not race” BS, my immediate response is to cite White Appalachia, pointing-out that it is one of the most impoverished regions of the U.S.A. Even after allowing for economic status and any and all other relevant factors, can so much as a single case be found where violent crime rates among a given total white population are comparable to violent crime rates among a given total black population?

    (Just to be clear for the record: None of what I have written above or anywhere else, for that matter, amounts or equates-to harboring ill will or wishing harm upon anyone merely on the basis of such accidents of birth as race, ethnicity or national or religious background.)

  58. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    You are imputing the use of logic.

  59. Lurker says:
    @Whiskey

    Whiskey mate, after years and years of this you know perfectly well that Fat Heidi is not a typical white person, she’s Jewish. But you’ll carry on just the same.

    There is no way 95% of whites buy into black worship to the degree you claim.

  60. @FPD72

    The word par was not invented for and by golfers, so not all uses are expressed in terms of golf scores.

  61. Dissident says:
    @bartok

    Where did the individual you were replying-to (“24AheadDotCom”) even mention Mitt Romney, much less suggest that he was/is/would have been/would be better than Trump (or anyone else) on immigration?

    I missed that.

  62. Dissident says:
    @bartok

    A more logical assumption is that the communists will let up once White countries “look like the world”; i.e. have a White population of 8%.

    Communists? How many Communist nations committed demographic suicide?

    • Replies: @Romanian
    , @Anon
  63. @FPD72

    Wait, isn’t “under par” a better score than “above par?”

    It takes a special kind of genius to not just get the golfing pun wrong on the banner, but to display the handiwork solely to the patrons of a large golf clubhouse and hotel.

    PiltdownNiece once did a high-school summer internship with Greenpeace. She reported back that they would slack around the office for several days and then have their weekly meeting, which consisted solely of brainstorming about what protest marches they could do, but the meetings would fizzle out from a lack of initiative and willingness to do even the basic work of getting things like banners prepared. She quite after three weeks of total boredom and inactivity.

  64. Anon[765] • Disclaimer says:

    By JESSE J. (((HOLLAND))) and RUSSELL CONTRERAS

  65. @bartok

    So Western countries (like America) are run by “Communists”?

    The things I learn on here……………

    • Replies: @Samuel Skinner
  66. Mr. Anon says:
    @Whiskey

    White people worship Blacks as the super race. No really .

    No, they really don’t. But you really are a weird, demented little horse’s ass, Whiskey

    That’s why Fat Heidi went on the attack. Diversity is just worship of Black people as the Master Race.

    This is about 95% of White people.

    And is there any other descriptor of her, or many of the other SPLC personnel, besides “white”? Any other characteristic of note?

  67. El Dato says:
    @eah

    NAZI ALERT!
    NAZI ALERT!
    Now suspecting:
    Mr. John Doe
    Mr. John Doe
    Current position according to his Fitbit:
    Main Avenue, Progressing North!
    Main Avenue, Progressing North!
    NAZI ALERT!
    NAZI ALERT!

    Once could imagine the Half-Life City Tannoy to have the right intonation.

    POSSIBLY REPUBLICAN:

    Elon Musk faces online wrath after being exposed as Republican PAC donor

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  68. El Dato says:
    @Dissident

    AFAIK Acid Control is implemented. If you get stopped and you have caustic products on you w/o justification: problem.

  69. El Dato says:
    @syonredux

    Tanesha Melbourne-Blake died on 2 April after a drive-by shooting

    F*cking Scheisse. This kind of stuff is coming now, too?

    Khan v Trump: Mayor says President’s claim immigrants to blame for rise in crime is ‘preposterous’

  70. @JohnnyWalker123

    ‘white british gang violence’ accounts for the largest number of acid attacks in London?

    There something very odd about those figures; they look more massaged than kobe beef.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Brutusale
  71. @Neoconned

    Air Pinochet would like to bid for the contract.

  72. El Dato says:
    @Cowboy Shaw

    In truth, UK White Trash is VERY trash.

  73. “Paul A. Kramer, a Vanderbilt University historian who specializes in the politics of inequality in the United States….”

    Prima facie evidence of why the $40 or $50K per year for Vanderbilt is dollars down the commode.

  74. Beenes says:

    Love the “Old racist Europe” vs. “New diverse Europe” pictures. I mean, before all the immigrants got there, whoever heard of any strife, conflict, war, genocide, or religious tensions happening on European soil? It’s not like Europeans would slaughter each other over differences involving minor and totally irrelevant technicalities within their same Christian denomination or anything.

    Or perhaps all that was simply all solved in 1945, never to recur again… but for the unfortunate arrival of immigrants.

  75. Brutusale says:
    @Hockamaw

    Everyone ever mentioned by the $PLC should sue. The geldings at the NR are against it, so it must be right.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/southern-poverty-law-center-lawsuits-would-attack-free-speech/

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  76. Rosie says:
    @Anon

    falatious

    An interesting spelling error that shows generally good pattern recognition, and therefore good spelling instincts.

    The correct spelling is: fallacious. It is the adjective form of the noun fallacy, and is of course easy to spell once you realize that.

  77. Pericles says:
    @Dissident

    I suppose acid control will be next.

    Then the Britbong shall RISE!

  78. Anonymous[810] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah

    Even as they horrify, they continue to amaze.

  79. Anonymous[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah

    Too monochrome. Splashes of blue, white and green would liven it up. Vertical, blue to the staff.
    It’s the Northwest , after all.

    • Replies: @eah
  80. KenH says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    The employee roster of SPLC reads like a Jewish phone book. It seems they prefer the SPLC to remain Jewish like Trump wants Europe to remain white Europeans but nobody will call them on it.

  81. KenH says:

    Typical Jewish and (((media))) hypocrisy. It’s ok for Israeli leaders to proclaim that Israel is a Jewish state and that it’s character must remain so via race laws and restrictive immigration. That’s met with crickets by all the “watchdog” groups like SPLC and ADL and celebrated by goys on the kosher right and left.

    But if a white leader in a Western nation makes statements to the effect that third world immigration is having a ruinous and transformative effect and that white nations don’t belong to everyone except the white natives then we’re treated to jeremiads from the Jew led left about white nationalism and Nazism.

  82. Them Guys says:
    @fnn

    They are: Suspook’s…Avoid Coontact with all Suspook’s at all cost.

  83. Them Guys says:
    @Anon

    There should be a snappy name by which this kind of falatious argument can be called out, and there probably is, but I don’t know it (so maybe it’s not snappy and memorable enough.)

    Try This for a Snappy easy to remember name…JEWISH.

  84. @Mr. Anon

    Liberal tourists absolutely adore Japan: so clean! so civilized! the people so polite! no fear of crime! Doer it occur to them that if Japan’s population were 12 percent African, that would not be the case?

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
  85. @bartok

    Immigration will end naturally, after the Progressives have succeeded in making America a shithole country indistinguishable from the shithole countries from which people emigrate.

  86. I noticed the AP quoted from a Claire M. Massey, so I decided to google her name and see what I got. Well there is a Claire M. Massey twitter feed, and if that’s her, what a far-left Marxist extremist she is. #[email protected] (she’s a blonde white woman) #BLM “crusade for justice” “gender” “Winston Churchill was a White Supremacist” (I kid you not). In a pervious generation Ms. Massey would probably be a member of the Comintern helping aid the Soviets and their quest for a worldwide socialist revolution.

    Notice how the AP likes to smear Trump and his views as “far-right” but they conveniently leave out the fact that the people they are quoting in an attempt to refute him and just as far left as actually Neo-Nazis are to the far right. They just never say “Claire M. Massey, a far-left scholar and activist,” just like when Trump was relentlessly harangued by Jake Tapper to denounce any far right support he might have. He should have said “I’ll denounce all far-right support if you ask and get Bernie and Hillary to denounce any and all support they have from the far-left. Otherwise you’re a biased reporter trying to smear me and my supporters as extremists and unfairly stigmatize our movement.”

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  87. @Brutusale

    The logic in that NPR piece is really convoluted. SPLC targets groups on the basis that they are exercising their First Amendment rights in a manner of which the SPLC doesn’t approve, and the denunciation of the SPLC carries quasi-official weight. However, if those groups attempt to defend their reputations by suing the SPLC, that threatens that organization’s First Amendment rights.

    Makes sense?

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @Mr. Anon
  88. @Forbes

    Should I laugh? Or cry?

    Eminent 19th century german novelist Wilhelm Raabe: If you have a choice, try to laugh – since you’ll be better off if it works.

  89. @JohnnyWalker123

    Not sure what you find odd about that; neocons were Trotskyites for example. If you are looking more broadly by behavior, then the uniparty resembles a Leninist faction attempting to seize power by crushing all alternative centers of power.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  90. Romanian says: • Website
    @Dissident

    Different policies, same principles. Kinf of like the progressive of yesteryear stealing children from aborigines to put them in school for their elevation, while berating the backwards general population, while the progressive of today deplores what the racists of yesteryear did with the poor native children and berate the backwards general population. Contradictory policies, same mindset.

    Plenty of Commie countries tried to commit culturecide and created material conditions and policies which led to lower baby booms and heavy handed natalist policies for cannon fodder which backfired immediately when the pressure was let up. In many ways, some our countries are recovering from the application of the same kind of treatment the Westerners are getting, only our process was done with the means of prior ages, which were different – the destruction of institutions, of social trust, of social capital, destruction of elites, falsification of history and destruction of past role models, glorification of the mediocre and servile, the mobilization of all resources for ideological projects unmoored from reality. We have never recovered – our immediate access to global capital markets, export markets, technologies, consumer goods etc simply papered over the immense cracks in the system and made us keep going like drunks propped up by the press of people around them. In other times, such cracks would have led to a breakdown in order. Thankfully, that did not happen. The baker kept baking bread, people still went to work etc etc and we would be on the road to recovery or, at least, reconstruction, if not for getting caught up in the maelstrom of the West destroying itself and trying to propagandize us into doing the same.

  91. Dante says:

    The Hubris of our out of touch ((( elites and msm ))) is precisely the reason that comments like those from the SPLC are having no effect on people in the real world, Trump is simply reflecting the majority opinion of Millions of Europeans around the world in that the silent majorities are no longer so silent and prepared to be brow beaten by the social justice warriors. Quite literally Europeans are waking up and beginning to take our own side

  92. densa says:
    @Anon

    Agree! They never have to address the issues raised such as overcrowding, wage suppression, reverse discrimination, or even the legitimacy of having involuntary cultural and racial changes take place without the consent of the governed, just like the EU-Brexit, less we make the wrong choice.

    The closest I can think of is the tactic of denying what hasn’t been charged. “I want immigration controlled,” becomes “you’re anti-immigrant.” Saying you want and would like to keep your culture becomes hatred, and so on. You’re right, we need a short handle for it.

    It annoys me that the SPLC gets tax money.

    Rosie, maybe he was thinking ‘fellatios’.

  93. @syonredux

    No doubt it’s disproportionate, but most violent crime is committed by young men. To figure out how disproportionate, I’d want to compare population by age groups.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  94. eah says:

    Thread.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  95. sayless says:
    @Dissident

    “acid control will be next”

    Yes, it’s already been brought up.

  96. @JohnnyWalker123

    Unless you are an idiot, you have to know that your argument is tendentious and misleading. The proper comparison would be the current number of murders in London with the number before the massive influx of immigrants from third world shit holes began. As early as 1970, Enoch Powell was noticing the negative impact of these immigrants on English life.

    The project http://www.murdermap.co.uk/index.asp provides detailed historical tabulations of London homicides. In 1970, according to this source, there were no murders in London but looking at the five year period centered on 1970 there were exactly four murders during that entire period, an average of less than one per year.

    In the single year 2017, according to the same source, there were 128 murders in London. The vast majority of these were committed by immigrants from third world shit holes or the descendants of these immigrants. For example, immigrants from just four countries – India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Jamaica – were responsible for 47 of these murders, or just over one-third (37%) of them. Immigrants from just four countries accounted for over one-third of the murders in London 1n 2017!!

    • Replies: @Medvedev
    , @JohnnyWalker123
  97. @Anonymous

    “had absolutely no qualms”

    have

  98. @syonredux

    When they get the opportunity, the barbarians will destroy this art work and all like it, just as the Taliban, Isis, and other Sunni savages have destroyed so many other artistic masterpieces when they’ve had the opportunity.

  99. @Forbes

    Vandy’s always been a snobbery factory, this is just the latest flavor of the month.

  100. bomag says:
    @Anon

    I’m sure that there’s a name for this in rhetoric or logic, but this is a kind of argumentation that does not refute the claim, but rather goes somewhat ad hominem in trying to attach the claim to a discredited group.

    I don’t know a name off hand; maybe we need a new one: ad coetus, “to the group”, analogous to ad hominem.

    Seems to be a common tactic today among SPLC types: if the Nazis et al liked it, it must be bad.

    Of course, it breaks down when you point out that the Nazis liked clean water, etc.

  101. bomag says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Makes sense?

    The usual sense.

    On problem is that the SPLC has become a quasi-governmental agency, with their “opinions” carrying more weight than opinions otherwise.

  102. Svigor says:
    @Cagey Beast

    Yeah Jews have been coasting for years. They’re going to really up their game once they’re actually forced to the negotiating table to start conceding things. ‘Course by that time it may be too late for them to actually achieve anything; preference cascades can be a real bitch.

  103. Pat Boyle says:
    @Anon

    This has all happened before. In third century Rome and Italy the common people ate off standardize industrial produced glazed dinner ware. Two centuries later they were back to wooden bowls. The barbarians had come.

    European civilization then was called Roman civilization and the barbarians were Germans but the principal is the same. A less well organized and developed people had overcome their superiors. Only this time the barbarians were not just inferior in organization. This time the invaders are worse in genetics too. So while northern Europe could rise again to the level of Rome in just a thousand years or so, in this case the Dark Age could be much longer.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  104. @syonredux

    Wait, wait, you mean none of these killings were out in the bucolic countryside of Midsomer, and few if any of the victims had last names like Featherstonehaugh? I thought the Law & Order franchise was fantasy, but really….

  105. Svigor says:
    @24AheadDotCom

    You do beg to be smeared. You’re just such a smug asshole.

    That aside, I think you’re wrong on the merits. Trump galvanizes, forces people into camps, makes them pay attention, etc. He’s an accelerant. I think that’s a good thing.

    It wasn’t you that made immigration the #1 issue. It was Trump.

  106. Dan Hayes says:
    @Karl

    Karl:

    Thanks for thinking outside the box. Unfortunately Trump has foreclosed any such actions since he has already criticized Obama for doing what you have suggested.

  107. anon[132] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    The fallacy here is a type of guilt by association. White nationalists don’t like immigration and Trump doesn’t like immigration, therefore Trump is a white nationalist.
    There are a variety of fallacies that are based on personal attack – ad hominim, guilt by association, impugning the motives of the speaker, slander, etc.

    Most political argument, and all liberal political argument, consists of fallacious personal attacks.
    Liberals resort to personal attack because fact and logic are not on their side. Also, they believe they are having “insights” into human character when they attack others motives. This also serves their emotional cult belief that anyone who disagrees with them on politics is an evil blasphemer.

  108. Mr. Anon says:

    This has all happened before.

    …………………………………………..

    So while northern Europe could rise again to the level of Rome in just a thousand years or so, in this case the Dark Age could be much longer.

    So it hasn’t all happened before.

  109. Mr. Anon says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    The logic in that NPR piece is really convoluted.

    NR (National Review), not NPR. But one can forgive the confusion. NR is about as effective a promoter of the conservative cause as is NPR.

  110. Mulegino1 says:
    @Brutusale

    The best of them were probably all killed off at the Battle of Passchendaele.

    It is hardly an exaggeration to note that the seat of the Empire upon which the son never set has become the trash heap upon which it never shines.

    The UK’s chief object of worship, that bunch of cheesy, usurping, inbred dullards and pederasts known as the “Royal family” is a sure sign of its ultimate degeneration.

    I feel sorry for those who still retain the greatness and nobility of what England once was- very long ago.

    The current UK is hardly fit even to be renamed “Airstrip 1.”

  111. BenKenobi says:
    @El Dato

    What a game. They really nailed the dystopia.

    Half Life 2, Episode 2 was 11 years ago. I don’t think closure is forthcoming.

    • Replies: @Anonym
  112. Thud says:
    @ThirdWorldSteveReader

    After the war my family worked their arses off getting the place back on its feet and making it a better country for following generations….fuck the immigrants that followed.

  113. AndrewR says:
    @Russ

    It’s fake news by omission too. Both of Donald’s paternal grandparents were immigrants from Bavaria.

  114. AndrewR says:
    @Stan d Mute

    It’s impossible to overstate how excessive it would be to murder someone for paragliding within 100 yards of the president. Take your meds.

  115. AndrewR says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Where did you read that? Or are you just making it up?

  116. AndrewR says:
    @Pat Boyle

    How great can a population’s genetics be if they allow themselves to be taken over by foreigners without any fight? Genes are only “superior” insofar as they are more conducive to long term population survival/growth. Pray tell how many descendents have your Superior Genes™ bequeathed unto you?

    • Replies: @Anonym
  117. syonredux says:

    Projections of changes in racial demographics depend on how race is classified. The U.S. Census Bureau makes several different projections of the nation’s racial demographic future, but the most publicized version projects our racial future in a way that narrows the definition of race groups to exclude people who are of mixed race or Hispanic. This definition results in projections of many fewer “whites,” accelerating the impending decline of the country’s white majority and perhaps heightening white audiences’ anxiety about demographic change. We conducted an experiment that randomly assigned whites to read alternative news stories based on 2014 Census Bureau projections. One story emphasized growing diversity, a second emphasized the decline of the white population to minority status, and a third described an enduring white majority based on intermarriage and inclusive white identity. Much higher levels of anxiety or anger, especially among Republicans, were recorded after reading the white minority story than the alternative stories of diversity or an enduring white majority.

    http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0002716218766294

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    , @nebulafox
  118. Flip says:
    @Dissident

    Despite my libertarian leanings, I’d like to see everyone have to have to carry tamper proof ID which shows your citizenship or residency status. Lots of countries have that.

    • Replies: @Dissident
  119. Slightly OT: Looks like Charles’s sons are twits too. Thought they had more class than their moron father.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/989043/the-queen-donald-trump-uk-visit-prince-william-prince-charles-meghan-markle

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  120. @Harry Baldwin

    Not in a hundred lifetimes, Steve has remarked about this numerous times in the past. Nicholas Kristof attributed the lack of a New Orleans style collapse in Kobe after the earthquake in 1995 to government social programs.

    This despite the fact that Japan has social welfare programs that may be even stingier than the US. There has be an entirely enviromental explanation for everything.

    • Replies: @utu
  121. @JohnnyWalker123

    Homicide rates in Greater London are comparatively low compared with the US (even Canada to a lesser extent),though other types of crime such as robbery, burglary and assault are quite high. There were approximately 13k robberies in New York City in 2017, during the same period Greater London reported 32k, that is a significant difference.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  122. @syonredux

    We conducted an experiment that randomly assigned whites to read alternative news stories based on 2014 Census Bureau projections. One story emphasized growing diversity, a second emphasized the decline of the white population to minority status, and a third described an enduring white majority based on intermarriage and inclusive white identity. Much higher levels of anxiety or anger, especially among Republicans, were recorded after reading the white minority story than the alternative stories of diversity or an enduring white majority.

    This isn’t really a new discovery. As Jim Jones demonstrated, the greater the ratio of Koolaid to cyanide, the easier it is to get people to commit suicide.

  123. syonredux says:
    @Morris Applebaum IV

    No doubt it’s disproportionate, but most violent crime is committed by young men. To figure out how disproportionate, I’d want to compare population by age groups.

    Feel free……

  124. Hank Yobo says:

    Memorable Words from Prescient Presidents

    “Ich bin ein Berliner” 26 June 1963
    “Tear down this wall!” 12 June 1987
    “. . . you are changing culture, you are changing a lot of things.” 13 July 2018

  125. @Samuel Skinner

    were Trotskyites

    Were Trotskyites.

    It’s been a long time since they advocated anything similar to Troskyism.
    It’s been a long time since Trotsky died.
    It’s been a long time since Communism collapsed worldwide.

    Whatever you want to say about the present generation of Neocons, they’re very far from advocating worldwide Communist revolution. Most of the present generation of Neocons grew up absorbing Republican establishment ideology, but had a desire to push the party in a more pro-Israel direction (away from realists).

    The Neocons do appear to be globalists and also appear to be somewhat insane, but their ideological preference isn’t Communism. I remember when Occupy Wall Street occurred, the Neocons claimed the Ocuppiers were covert anti-semites.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  126. @Perspective

    That’s a good point.

    The problem with crime statistic c0mparisons is that there’s variation in reporting rates and how offenses are recorded. However, with respect to the homicide rate, there’s near 100% reporting and recording (at least in first world nations). So they are more comparable proxy for the variation in the violent crime rate.

    There are, of course, shortcomings to only relying the homicide rate as a proxy for violent crime. There also could be a disconnect between the homicide rate and property crime rate.

    The difference in the robbery rate is interesting. Worth investigating.

  127. utu says:
    @Unladen Swallow

    There was some looting in Kobe but all Japanese believed it was done by foreigners (Koreans) because Japanese believed that no Japanese would do it.

  128. @Lucas McCrudy

    “Winston Churchill was a White Supremacist” (I kid you not).

    He actually was. I kid you not.

  129. @JohnnyWalker123

    Were Trotskyites.

    It’s been a long time since they advocated anything similar to Troskyism.

    I’ve certainly heard a number of them advocate permanent worldwide revolution in the last 15 years. That’s Trotskyism.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  130. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Jim Don Bob

    Slightly OT: Looks like Charles’s sons are twits too. Thought they had more class than their moron father.

    Appalling family. Send them back to Germany. Bring back the Stuarts!

  131. Medvedev says:
    @Jus' Sayin'...

    Actually, if UK had remained mostly White one would expect homicide rates to be waaaay lower than in 1970. One just needs to look at Japan and where homicide rate was trending since 1970:
    - society gets older. Elderly people tend to commit fewer crimes.
    - new generation has lower testosterone level than in 1990 and way lower than in 1970.
    - cameras everywhere. People have less incentive to commit crimes if they know they’re going to be caught.

  132. nebulafox says:
    @syonredux

    Aka, normal human behavior, comprehensible to all but affluent white bien-pensants.

    News at 10.

  133. @Jus' Sayin'...

    The project http://www.murdermap.co.uk/index.asp provides detailed historical tabulations of London homicides. In 1970, according to this source, there were no murders in London but looking at the five year period centered on 1970 there were exactly four murders during that entire period, an average of less than one per year.

    This is utterly ridiculous. You believe that London, an entity with 8 million individuals, had an average 0-1 murder per year in the 70s? How is it possible that you believe that? You really think that 8 million people can go a year without a single homicide?

    I checked the figures. It turns out you’re wrong. London had over 100 murders in 1970, which gave it a homicide rate of 1.4 per 100,000. The current projected homicide rate for 2018 (2.0 per 100,000) is higher, but the average rate of the last five years is roughly 1.4 per 100,000.

    In the single year 2017, according to the same source, there were 128 murders in London. The vast majority of these were committed by immigrants from third world shit holes or the descendants of these immigrants. For example, immigrants from just four countries – India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and Jamaica – were responsible for 47 of these murders, or just over one-third (37%) of them. Immigrants from just four countries accounted for over one-third of the murders in London 1n 2017!!

    In England&Wales, here are the homicide rates per 100,00 of the major ethnicities.

    White: 0.8
    Black: 3.2
    Asian (Subcon): 1.1

    Arrest rates per 1,000.

    White: 13
    Black: 46
    Asian(Subcon): 16

    Prisoners per 10,000 population for British nationals.

    White: 14
    Black: 47
    Asian(Subcon): 18

    The above figures are not weighted for age, which skews disproportionately young among ethnic minorities.

    Foreign nationals were about 12% of the prison population.

    The ethnic distribution for England is 85% White, 8% Asian, and 3.5% Black. The rest were in other groups (mixed, Chinese, etc).

    By the way, many of those immigrants outperform White British youths in school.

    https://twitter.com/akarlin88/status/886691620695003136/photo/1

    Even the Somalis aren’t that far behind.

    The worst performers are the Eastern European students.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  134. @ben tillman

    Trotskyists wanted to spread socialism throughout the world.

    When was the last time that Charles Krauthammer or David Brooks advocated for socialism?

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  135. Anonym says:
    @eah

    I’m not an expert, but Nazis in the neighborhood would probably be good for property prices? I’m guessing it’s just some sort of hyperbole term for white people.

  136. Anonym says:
    @BenKenobi

    From memory it’s the POCs and mystery meat in HL2 that are oppressed, right? That’s the rule with movie and video game propaganda.

  137. Anonym says:
    @AndrewR

    How great can a population’s genetics be if they allow themselves to be taken over by foreigners without any fight? Genes are only “superior” insofar as they are more conducive to long term population survival/growth.

    Let me spell it out for you.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @James N. Kennett
  138. @Whiskey

    White people worship Blacks as the super race. No really . That’s why Fat Heidi went on the attack. Diversity is just worship of Black people as the Master Race.

    This is about 95% of White people.

    Well, you do know that 95% of all statistics are made up, right? And that 95% of men masturbate, and the other 5% lie about it.

  139. AndrewR says:
    @Anonym

    Preaching to the choir, bud. I don’t weep for those who won’t even help themselves.

  140. syonredux says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    In England&Wales, here are the homicide rates per 100,00 of the major ethnicities.

    White: 0.8
    Black: 3.2
    Asian (Subcon): 1.1

    Arrest rates per 1,000.

    White: 13
    Black: 46
    Asian(Subcon): 16

    Prisoners per 10,000 population for British nationals.

    White: 14
    Black: 47
    Asian(Subcon): 18

    The Brits are damn lucky that Blacks are not 12% of their population….

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
  141. @24AheadDotCom

    Trump just does shtick for his base and this is no different. He’s less than worthless to the USA, even if he makes his base feel better about themselves…

    24, you’re sounding like the flip side of Jack Hanson.

    Trump is Trump–a human being. Like most humans he’s good at some stuff and crappy at other stuff.

    One of the things Trump is good at is plain speaking of simple truths–he’s not good at any extended intellectual argument. And he’s especially good at getting the globalist/multi-culti anti-white opposition to go beserk, come raging out and *plainly state* their–rather bizarre and brazen, in-human and anti-white feelings–rather than their usual frog boiling.

    This is particularly useful because it’s the kind of thing that helps wake normies up. I’d imagine Trump’s comments and the reaction actually helped wake up a hundreds of thousands of Euro-normies, and moved the needle some on millions more. It help’s get white normies in the US–plenty of whom have been to Europe and seen the non-Europeans (including harassing them and peddling their garbage)–to realize, “hey these people don’t think even white European countries are allowed to be white … hey that’s … that’s like … uh … um … that’s like racist or something”.

    Trump both moved the Overton window on plain speaking about immigration, but also got the globalists to more openly air their feelings for all to see.

    White normies waking up and smelling the smoke from the ovens is critical to turning this around. So this was Trump being effective–doing God’s work.

    • Agree: Anonym
  142. @Neoconned

    “….drop them in the middle of some aids shanty town and pay the local warlord a few hundred grand to deal with them…”

    No need to pay him, just tell him that they’re albinos and the problem will resolve itself.

  143. eah says:
    @Anonymous

    It has the Shirer ‘Rise and Fall of the Third Reich’ aesthetic:

    • Replies: @eah
  144. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast

    Good point. The Democrats basically threw the 2016 election because they were too proud to pander to ‘racists’ (i.e. people worried about immigration). Principles before power is a noble attitude but it gets tiresome fast.

  145. Anonym says:
    @Dissident

    What’s the point? Suppose Mx*. Beirich were nothing short of ravishing in appearance. Would that make xir* views, pronouncements or actions any less odious and pernicious in substance?

    Physiognomy is real. I didn’t say to include anything disparaging, but it is useful in order to notice patterns to have something to observe in the first place.

  146. @Anonym

    There are large areas of the world in which even strong men cannot create good times. It is from such places that the developed world is now being colonized.

    • Replies: @Anonym
  147. Dissident says:
    @Flip

    Despite my libertarian leanings, I’d like to see everyone have to have to carry tamper proof ID which shows your citizenship or residency status.

    Perhaps an embedded microchip, like there has been for pets for some years already? Could that be done for humans with no ill or unsightly effects?

  148. Anonym says:
    @James N. Kennett

    There are large areas of the world in which even strong men cannot create good times. It is from such places that the developed world is now being colonized.

    True. The caveat applies that the above memetic distillation of Glubb is something for ice people. Maybe sun people can have a relative good times, I haven’t looked into it.

  149. @JohnnyWalker123

    Trotsky wanted revolution, not socialism.

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