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From The Guardian:

The American civil war didn’t end. And Trump is a Confederate president
Rebecca Solnit, Sun 4 Nov 2018

His supporters hark back to an 1860s fantasy of white male dominance. But the Confederacy won’t win in the long run

In the 158th year of the American civil war, also known as 2018, the Confederacy continues its recent resurgence. Its victims include black people, of course, but also immigrants, Jews, Muslims, Latinos, trans people, gay people and women who want to exercise jurisdiction over their bodies.

… Of course, not all white men support extending that old domination, but those who do see themselves and their privileges as under threat in a society in which women are gaining powers, and demographic shift is taking us to a US in which white people will be a minority by 2045. …

We had an ardent Unionist president for eight years, and now we are 21 months into the reign of an openly Confederate president …

Rebecca Solnit is a Guardian US columnist. She is the author of Men Explain Things to Me and The Mother of All Questions

After all, Trump’s big breakthrough in the Electoral College was winning the Confederate states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. You can’t get much more Deep South than Michigan’s UP. And Trump’s mother was born in Tong in Scotland’s Outer Hebrides, which is pretty far south compared to the Shetland Islands or Spitzbergen. Also, Trump Tower is on 5th Avenue south of Central Park, if you get my drift.

 
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  1. Fun fact: Rebecca Solnit invented the concept of ‘mansplaining.’

  2. songbird says:

    You can’t get much more Deep South than Michigan’s UP.

    Copperheads?

  3. Mr. Blank says:

    I’m sorry, but I must have missed the part in the history books about the Union being dominated by the Rainbow Coalition during the Civil War. The history books we had back in Alabama said the Union was dominated by straight white male Protestants, just like the South.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    , @pyrrhus
  4. Anndd 50 years from now when we’re like Brazil, we won’t have a Donald Trump as President, we’ll have a… Bolsanaro.

  5. L Woods says:

    Men Explain Things to Me

    How unfortunate, when they very clearly need to tell you to stop making noises from your mouth and spilling garage onto print.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  6. Tex says:

    When the 21st century left isn’t valiantly risking life and limb destroying the Third Reich via Twitter, they are busy crushing the Confederacy. Soon social activists will be considered veterans.

    • LOL: Kylie, Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @CCZ
    , @Redneck farmer
    , @bomag
  7. Anonymous[218] • Disclaimer says:

    I was at the rally in Chattanooga. Truly humongous crowd that wound around for what looked like forever. Meanwhile protestors across the street were chanting on I hadn’t heard before:

    Hey, Hey!
    Ho, Ho!
    Crazy crackers
    Have to go!

  8. JLK says:

    Trump’s tribe didn’t own slaves for the most part. That would have been people of English descent.

  9. The subtext being the liberation of slaves.

    Walk Free Foundation estimates there are 46 million people enslaved worldwide – 18 million in India, China 3.4million, Pakistan 2.1 million, Bangladesh 1.5 million, Uzbekistan 1.2 million. By % of population enslaved, the Islamic Republic of Mauritania 4.3% (there is no prohibition against slavery in Islam), Uzbekistan 4%, Cambodia 1.6%, India, 1.4%, Qatar 1.4%. In this context, Beijing, Islamabad, New Dehli are as Atlanta, Savannah, and Charleston before they were razed.

    At the zenith of the Islamic State slaves were bargain priced: a 1-9 year old sold for $165 / 10-20 $124 / 21-30 $82 / 31-40 $62 / 41-50 $50. UN reports indicate 5,000–7,000 Yazidi women and children were abducted by ISIL and sold into slavery. Dabiq, the Islamic State’s magazine, explains the rationale for sex slavery: “enslaving the families of the kuffar and taking their women as concubines is a firmly established aspect of the Sharia’s that if one were to deny or mock, he would be denying or mocking the verses of the Quran and the narration of the Prophet … and thereby apostatizing from Islam.”

    Sex slavery exists within the United Kingdom. 1,000 girls in Telford over 40 years. 1,400 in Rotherham = 1% of female population sexually enslaved at some point by “Asian grooming gangs”. Assuming Rotherham ratio for all of UK = 325,000 females sexually enslaved / 40 years = 8,125 per year – suggesting that for 40 years the UK has been 1/8 as Satanic relative to the Islamic State (8 million people) at its zenith.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  10. JerryC says:
    @Anonymous

    I thought it was “creepy-ass crackers”…

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  11. Anonymous[122] • Disclaimer says:

    But “Muh Abe Lincoln” was a hero!

    My dimwit teachers said so.

    Glory Glory Hallelujah!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  12. As a friend of mine commented in the aftermath of the dimocrat meltdown after Trump’s win, “The last time the Democrats got this mad at not getting to pick the President, was when they thought we were going to take their slaves away.”

  13. JimB says:

    Berkeley keeps cranking out unlettered women of letters.

  14. Sailer could admit the GOP is the party of Southern yahooism and then try to fix that, instead he enables it. The fact is that without The South, the U.S. would be much better: they’re a drain on the USA in countless ways.

    Everything Trump has done is about making the LCD – predominately The South – make themselves feel better while actually doing nothing for them. Example: demagoguing the caravan in the same speech where he supported mass immigration. The South isn’t capable of understanding that Trump supports amnesty so much he colludes with Pelosi and Schumer and refuses to help undercut them to their base. Instead – just as they did with GWB – they fall for breit shiny objects.

    Here’s a question for those who’ll respond to this comment with smears:

    Name all the arguments Trump has made against legalizing DREAMers. Not his arguments against DACA, but against the fundamental issue of legalizing DREAMers. There are powerful arguments against that. Now, I want Trump enablers to list all the ones Trump has used:

  15. @Anonymous

    ‘Hey, Hey!
    Ho, Ho!
    Crazy crackers
    Have to go!’

    That’s really going to win friends and influence people.

  16. Anon7 says:

    OT: Did I miss the chance to better understand why so many Republicans in the House retired this year? Has the media simply made it too stressful to support Donald Trump? Or is this the Republican Party’s way of handing the House over to Democrats, in hopes of stalemating Trump for his last two years in office, and discouraging a run in 2020?

    If it’s just too stressful now to be a Republican, owing to all-out media attacks, I’m guessing that this will be seen as too useful a weapon to put away. Weaponized media properties will simply turn their guns on whoever is the next most prominent Republican.

    If this is just a ploy by Republican insiders to let Democrats do their dirty work in getting rid of Donald Trump, well, that sounds worthy of the Swamp.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  17. What are the odds Rebecca Solnit has never had an orgasm?

    (or that Steve will memory hole this post)

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  18. @Anonymous

    Hey, Hey!
    Ho, Ho!
    Crazy crackers
    Have to go!

    If they’re gonna still use those 50-year old chants, I’ll give ‘em credit for protesting against the junk food, at least. I didn’t know people took it that seriously, though (besides NYC mayors).

    Hey, Hey!
    Hohos,
    and trans-fat crackers
    have got to go!

    • LOL: Mr. Rational
  19. Courtesy of Wikipedia (American Civil War):

    Solnit was born in Bridgeport, Connecticut, to a Jewish father and Irish Catholic mother,[2] and in 1966 her family moved to Novato, California, where she grew up. “I was a battered little kid,” she said of her childhood.

    It looks like Rebecca Solnit has her own little civil war going on.

    His supporters hark back to an 1860s fantasy of white male dominance.

    The reference to the American Civil War is partially relevant, but I think his supporters hark back to the fear of all southerners that emancipated slaves would become violent. again, courtesy of Wikipedia (ibid):

    In particular, southerners feared a repeat of “the horrors of Santo Domingo”, in which nearly all white people – including men, women, children, and even many sympathetic to abolition – were killed after the successful slave revolt in Haiti.

    Is it possible that the lily white left is inured to this outcome, so long as it happens to us and not them?

    • Replies: @unit472
    , @AndrewR
  20. CCZ says:
    @Tex

    “Soon social activists will be considered veterans.”

    Already are. Transgender social justice jihadist Riley Dennis “Tweeted”: “Christine Blasey Ford is braver than any US Marine.”

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @Romanian
  21. @Roderick Spode

    Fun fact: Rebecca Solnit invented the concept of ‘mansplaining.’

    Fun fact: you have the same initials. She’s quite productive, too:

    Rebecca Solnit =

    Celibate scorn.
    Election’s crab.
    Blasé necrotic.

    Sclerotic bane.
    A snob electric.
    Acerbic lets on.

    Clean bisector.
    Aborts license.
    Encircles boat.

    Calcite boners.
    Trebles cocain.

    Conceit blares.
    I reenact blocs.
    Conceals tribe.

  22. This’ll be a great boon to Civil War reenactors all over the Old South, as new positions will open up to be immigrants, Jews, Muslims, Latinos, trans people, gay people and women who want to exercise jurisdiction over their bodies. We all remember the story of the courageous capture of the Rebel Rainbow flag at Vicksburg, right?

  23. istevefan says:

    We had an ardent Unionist president for eight years, and now we are 21 months into the reign of an openly Confederate president …

    When it comes to the issue of tariffs, Trump is more akin to the Unionist presidents of old than any president in living memory. Abe Lincoln is probably spinning in his grave at what the supposedly unionist presidents of modern times have done with trade.

  24. Once you realise that these pundits are not necessarily giving history lessons but setting out moral boundaries, it all makes sense.

    Confederates here should be read as evil. Nobody who isn’t already a believer will read it and not find it rather absurd.

    • Agree: res
    • Replies: @bomag
    , @Bill B.
    , @ben tillman
  25. AnonyBot says:

    The late 1800s debate which most closely parallels our current debate over illegal immigration was the debate over Chinese immigration (culture and race issues, concerns about cheap labor, etc.).

    The Page Act was signed into law in 1875. It effectively banned immigration by Chinese women. It was signed into law by former Union general President Ulysses S Grant.

    The Chinese Exclusion Act became law in 1882. It was signed into law by former Union brigadier general President Chester Arthur.

    Trump would have been right at home among the men who fought to end slavery and to preserve the Union.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @Curmudgeon
  26. Sajanus says:

    I have always thought that if the fringier portions of the Alt Right truly wanted a widespread racial free-for-all, then the quickest way to do it would be to elect a string of non-Veteran, minority leftist Presidents. Correspondingly, if the left wanted to prevent this, it would be to elect the opposite.

    The Supreme Court is a known weak link in our system of government. But there is another more fundamental weak link in every government: the willingness of combat troops to obey the Commander in Chief. Every multicultural society (all of which have historically reverted to autocracies, btw) circumvents this by having the most loyal troops being the same ethnicity of the ruling party. It is extra insurance if El Presidente comes from the military itself.

    In ethnically homogeneous nation states, this typically isn’t an issue, which is why they are probably so stable. In another decade or two in the US, it will be. Currently, the overwhelming portion of US combat troops are white. For the more elite units, it’s even more racially lop-sided. This is unlikely to change, as the future military will require higher IQ recruits.

    In the 2030′s, if a Kamala Harris or Obama-type orders white combat troops to quell predominately white unrest, how exactly is this going to play out in a way that isn’t destabilizing? The fact there would be uncertainty about this, leads me to believe there will be more military leaders with political ambitions who will capitalize on it.

  27. bgates says:

    To the South the bonds of the union have been as burdensome as the fetters to the negro, whom the South has kept in hopeless bondage….Why should the South be prevented from freeing itself from slavery? And why should not the monopoly which the Northern states seek to fasten on the South be broken down? The question of secession is one of humanity, and of freedom of trade.

    -The Manchester Guardian, 13 May 1861

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  28. Achilles says:

    One can’t help noticing that arguably the most notable talent of Jews as an ethnic group throughout history (including, it appears, this mischling Rebecca) is their unparalleled ability to rhetorically anathematize those whom they consider their enemies.

    In our day the enemy is of course white gentiles, in particular white American gentiles.

    In order to incite the most hatred against this particular group of human beings, they find it quite effective as a propaganda technique to associate the group with images and character types which media and history (now dominated by Jewish or Jewish-influenced academics) have imprinted in the popular mind as the being most reprehensible.

    So naturally we see much effort in the Jewish coalition-dominated media to associate those contemporary whites whom Jews most hate with characters such as WWII-era German National Socialists and 19th Century Confederate Old South slaveowners.

    They rhetorically dress us up in these period costumes the better to reduce any human sympathies that might come into play on the part of those whom they are trying to incite against us.

    If they gain sufficient power I suppose they might otherwise require us all to wear labels reading “Haman,” if only those they are trying to incite against us had any idea who Haman was.

    • Agree: densa, ben tillman
  29. Perhaps Grant, Sherman, Custer, Sheridan etc will eventually be classified as Confederates for waging white supremacist wars on various Indian tribes.

  30. Didn’t everyone already realize the Guardian is a cess-pit of idiocy?

    I mean, it’s really bad. There are outlets I completely disagree with — but the Guardian is really bad. ‘Trump is a Confederate President’ is actually about average.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  31. SND says:

    Why are Beckys always causing trouble?

  32. The left wants so badly to be goaded into violence that it keeps imagining provocations.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  33. Raphael says:

    Solnit is really historically illiterate. Since the conclusion of the Civil War, we have indeed had presidents who were Confederate in spirit, who tried to recreate a corporate feudal plantation economy that relies on cheap (or even virtually unpaid) nonwhite labor, but they went by such names as Woodrow Wilson, George Bush II, etc.

  34. TheBoom says:

    I know that this is going to shock iSteve readers but Rebecca Solnit is half fellow white instead of full fellow white. She is in the Anthony Bourdain wing of mixed fellow whites who want you to know that just because she is part white, that doesn’t stop her from hating you.

    Traditionally the American people have not been overly obsessed with following the details of politics on a daily basis. Nor have they been skilled at connecting a lot of dots. However whites seem to be starting to notice that whites never voted to replace themselves yet are told that they are evil if they don’t want to go along.

    What I am not as clear on is whether they notice the role our (((fellow whites))) play in this, how they don’t require Israel to live by the same rules and that only white people need to replace themselves.

    Fortunately, our fellow whites and replacements are getting very bold in telling us how much they hate us and seek to replace us

  35. @Reg Cæsar

    Reg, that is an exemplary set of anagrams, even by your very high standards.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan, ic1000
  36. @Pat Rockford

    Walk Free Foundation estimates there are 46 million people enslaved worldwide

    SJW driven NGOs often define their own terms sometimes the better to enlarge the scope of the problems they set out to work on. They are also known to (again, sometimes) to use emotively loaded terms to emphasize the importance and centrality of their own work.

    Walk Free foundation’s definition of slavery is as follows

    Modern slavery refers to situations where one person has taken away another person’s freedom — their freedom to control their body, their freedom to choose to refuse certain work or to stop working — so that they can be exploited. Freedom is taken away by threats, violence, coercion, abuse of power and deception. The net result is that a person cannot refuse or leave the situation.

    Walk Free Foundation estimates there are 46 million people enslaved worldwide.

    While the condition of the unfortunate people who do indeed live in such conditions is deplorable, many of their work situations do not really meet the commonsense notion of slavery, which, to American minds, is usually chattel slavery.

    In the case of India, which has a pretty complex social structure, with 3,000 sub-castes interacting and following myriad economic arrangements and ancient conventions, the term “slavery” is reductive and likely inflates numbers. I wouldn’t be surprised it that were true for some of the other places mentioned, too. But it is highly likely that there are still actual chattel slaves in the Arabian peninsula, as it was still legal and commonplace in the 1960s.

    • Replies: @Pat Rockford
  37. anon[110] • Disclaimer says:

    The key words in her article are “victims” and “domination”. With those emotions flowing no logic is possible.
    A globalist president who wants no borders is a Unionist?
    She is right about one thing – the Civil War didn’t end. Take John Brown holy warrior fanaticism, mix wtih Jewish contempt of all things Gentile, and you get Rebecca Solnit.

  38. Mr. Anon says:
    @Roderick Spode

    Feminists Explain Things to Me.

    • LOL: Roderick Spode
  39. The Confederate Army was vibrantly diverse. Alongside whites there were Jews like Moses Jacob Ezekiel, Cherokee Indians like Stand Watie, and the Bunker brothers, who were the half-Chinese sons of Siamese twins Chang and Eng.

    • Replies: @SporadicMyrmidon
  40. @PiltdownMan

    Agreed – just that on the propaganda front, it seems effective to use SJW data to neutralize SJW propaganda for certain cohorts – fighting fire with fire in an era of 100% appeal to emotion. The data on slaves in Islamic State seems sound enough – albeit a fairly large range. Sex slavery in Rotherham and other English towns was hugely suppressed to avoid “giving oxygen to racism”. We tend to refer to the Jay Inquiry – a product of Whitehall.

  41. @Anonymous

    You’re the target. Trump’s just in the way.

    • Agree: densa
  42. AnonyBot says:

    According to her bio Solnit is part Jewish and part Irish. This almost certainly means that most or all of her family wasn’t even living in the US during the Civil War. In contrast all of my ancestors were here during the Civil War, and I have a very large number of ancestors and relatives who served on the side of the Union.

    When are people like Solnit going to stop appropriating the lives of my ancestors on behalf of political causes they almost certainly didn’t believe in?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @densa
  43. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    OT:

    This exceptionally chafes my hindquarters:

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article221076975.html

    These immigrants can’t vote. So they’re working hard to influence those who can

    By Brenda Medina

    [email protected]

    November 04, 2018 09:00 AM
    Updated November 04, 2018 09:44 AM

    On Sept. 5 2017, the Trump administration announced the end of a program that protects undocumented immigrants who arrived as children, known as DACA and started by the Obama administration in 2012.

    That date was crucial for Maria, a domestic worker and native of Argentina who lives in Miami-Dade and has two children, 21 and 23 years old, who are among the 800,000 beneficiaries of DACA.

    “That Sept. 5 I said, ‘I have to do something. I have to contribute my two cents for the change I want to see,” said Maria, who asked to be identified only by her first name because she’s undocumented. “There’s a big risk for us. The risk of losing my children’s education, the house, everything we have built here.”

    That’s how Maria, who arrived on a tourist visa in 2000 and overstayed it to settle in Miami because of an economic crisis in Argentina, wound up working to turn out the vote in the midterm elections.

    Maria cannot vote, but has knocked on dozens of doors around Miami to urge those who can to vote.

    She’s part of a growing number of people who cannot vote because they are undocumented or green card holders but are hitting the streets to urge voters to cast their ballots.

    Their goal is to persuade voters to support candidates who promise to protect immigrants, because they understand that their future in this country is at risk and depends on those votes. Although President Donald Trump is not on the ballot, they are working to turn the midterm elections into a referendum on presidential policies and rhetoric they view as anti-immigrant.

    “It’s something we have seen before, people who cannot vote working to get out the vote. But this year, we’re seeing impressive numbers,” said Andrea Cristina Mercado, executive director of New Florida Majority, which works to increase electoral participation among communities of color.

    “And it’s not just a referendum, because we also have the opportunity to win the Senate and the House. If we want to stop Trump we have to win one of the two,” said Mercado. “So this is a referendum with very serious political consequences.”

    In previews years, undocumented immigrants have joined campaigns to get out the vote. But they have mostly been so-called Dreamers who were brought to the United States as children, studied in U.S. schools and are more politically savvy.

    Many of them have become prominent voices in the national conversation on immigration. Several worked in the Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton campaigns and others support moderate Republican members of Congress.

    But this election season it’s not just the Dreamers pitching in. It includes their parents, aunts, uncles and neighbors, people who clean homes or schools or take care of the elderly and the sick. Some don’t speak English very well and are still learning how the U.S. electoral system works.

    Maria is a rat fink. If I had the Starship Enterprise I’d locate her, lock onto her and beam her up and then back down to Argentina with her two kids. She knowingly broke the law and her fat bottom should be kicked out of the country forthwith.

    Actually, I’ve long fascinated that given access to a Transporter equipped Starship I’d beam up the Motor City Madman and the Rubber City Ruminant (Big Little Miss Muffett) and beam them down to a tropical uninhabited island, sans clothing, and see how they got along (although the holodeck would work just as well) but getting these arrogant illegal alien foreigners out of America would be so much more satisfying.

    Why is vdare not busting this arrogant “journalist” who seemingly approves of illegality and falsely calls her “Undocumented” instead of the corrrect term, ILLEGAL??

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Regret
  44. @Reg Cæsar

    Those last three….. most exquisite.

    I’m pretty certain Becky Solnit is a literal Communist.

  45. @C. Van Carter

    Some enterprising badthinker should make a film about Chang and Eng, slavemasters with well over a thousand living descendants. Reality ain’t what it seems. What exactly is Bannon up to now?

  46. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says:

    The only historical analogies ever used by Leftists are Slavery, Jim Crow, and Nazis.

    Their entire historical knowledge is exhausted by knowing that these Bad Things once existed, but then the progressive “arc of history” got rid of them.

    So everything they dislike is now one of these Bad Things, and everything they want is historically inevitable.

    It must be comforting to have such a simpleton’s view of the world. You are always morally superior in the present and you will always win in the long run.

    • Agree: International Jew
    • Replies: @AnonyBot
    , @Mr. Anon
  47. AnonyBot says:

    It’s interesting that one of the arguments we keep hearing from the Left is how much more progressive the United States would be if it weren’t for the South, yet simultaneously they’re proud of the fact that the United States waged war against the South (and won) in order to keep it in the Union.

    What’s interesting about the political differences between North and South is how long they have persisted, in spite of the ethnic and religious differences between the two really not being all that great until (relatively) recently. These differences have persisted for hundreds of years. The differences between Europeans and gypsies have persisted for nearly a thousand years.

    What do these persistent and dramatic differences between various groups living side-by-side say about the likelihood of certain groups ever assimilating into the US mainstream?

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  48. Nathan says:

    Sometimes this stuff really upsets me.

    Then again sometimes I just sit back and marvel at how absurdly unhinged this stuff is getting. The civil war never ended, the Salem witch trials never ended, the inquisition and the crusades never ended, what historical grievance is next??

    • Agree: densa
  49. Mr. Blank says:
    @Sajanus

    I agree that civilian/military relations are going to loom larger in the future. But for those on the left and right who pine for some form of military dictatorship to “rescue” America, an obvious problem is that the American military has historically been short of charismatic, politically inclined generals.

    Patton and MacArthur are exceptions, but the normal rule for America has always been that charismatic generals aren’t very political, and political generals aren’t very charismatic.

    • Replies: @Talleyrand
    , @Anonymous
  50. Anonymous[171] • Disclaimer says:
    @Roderick Spode

    Another Becky.

    This one is Bullshit Becky.

    What’s with all these unhinged women writers abandoning the last vestiges of self-restraint and sober reason?

    • Agree: TheBoom
  51. AnonyBot says:
    @Anon

    The only historical analogies ever used by Leftists are Slavery, Jim Crow, and Nazis.

    Don’t forget Colonialism, the Crusades, Manifest Destiny and the S.S. St Louis!!!

    Really I think a big part of our problem is that schools teach more American & European history than world history, which means (of course) that they get to focus more on America’s & Europe’s sins than on anyone else’s.

    I say it’s time we called the multiculturalists bluff and start teaching more world history. Then we can teach the kiddies about all the nasty shit that other people have done.

    • Agree: Sarah Toga
  52. NickG says:

    Not forgetting that Trump’s Florida ‘yee-hah!’ white supremacist redoubt – Mar-a-Lago on Palm Beach – is south of the Mason-Dixon-line.

  53. “Hidden Triggers: How Mary Todd Lincoln’s Hysterical Rants and Deranged Badgering Won the Civil War and Saved Minorities and LGBT Youth” by Rebecca Solnit

  54. Anonymous[399] • Disclaimer says:
    @24AheadDotCom

    The fact is that without The South, the U.S. would be much better: they’re a drain on the USA in countless ways.

    So you’re saying that African-Americans are a detriment to America? That America would be better off if they were expelled from our country?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @rufus
  55. @Tex

    Maybe Weird Al could parody Blue Oyster Cult’s “Veteran of the Physic Wars” as “Veteran of the Twitter Wars”?

    • Replies: @Sarah Toga
  56. @JerryC

    The gays have been suppressing that one, for some reason……

    • LOL: Kylie
  57. @Anon7

    A lot of the “retirees” are losing chairmanships. Rather than go back to being regular Congressmen, they’re “retiring” to become lobbyists.

  58. unit472 says:
    @James Speaks

    Sheesh, Novato in the 60′s and 70′s was about as white a town as you were going to find in the US. It wasn’t ‘posh’ Marin County like Belvedere or Sausalito but it was all white. In fact, there was a ‘gang’ who called themselves the ‘Ben Boys’, after the Ben Davis brand of work clothes, as they couldn’t afford Levi’s. Anyway, the Ben Boys saw a group of negroes playing baseball in a local park and took off after them. Disarming them of their baseball bats they pummeled them good enough for the incident to make the local paper. This was Northern California circa 1980 not Mississippi in 1860!

    • Replies: @Anon
  59. eah says:

    not all white men support extending that old domination

    Yes, we know — we’re familiar w/ the type — they’re called cucks.

    But all is not shadow over here — some light to brighten your day:

  60. Point is Orange Man Bad. Nazi Confederate = Trump = Bad. Historical accuracy is for bad white males that mansplain with hatefacts so they can remain lording it over women and people of color.

    We are to understand history on the level of say, Disney Star Wars. Btw iSteve readers, search google images for, “praetorian guard”. LOL. History is to serve the Narrative, your identity will be feminist explained to you now!

    • Replies: @Lurker
  61. @Mr. Blank

    Yeah, but they were the cucky straight white protestants. I mean Lincoln, Grant, and Sherman were the original neckbeards, weren’t they?

    • Replies: @Samuel Skinner
  62. “After all, Trump’s big breakthrough in the Electoral College was winning the Confederate states of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. You can’t get much more Deep South than Michigan’s UP.”

    Trump won there only because of the massive onslaught of Russian social media … those Russkies really know how those white folk in America’s Siberia tick.

  63. Tyrion 2 says:

    The entire body of Solnit’s work is nothing but her expressing her feelings and feeling excited by doing so.

    OTOH, a useful way of feeling out for a fellow thought criminal in London is to state how the people from the American South are the friendliest in the world. It can come up in a conventional discussion of holidays.

    A positive reaction of any sort tells you your acquaintance is capable of independent thought. It also doesn’t seem to set off the heretic hunters. They just get confused.

    • Agree: BB753
  64. Sean says:

    I think Solnit plagiarized Fran Lebowitz, who was was talking about the Republican and the” State of the Confederacy” back in 2012.

    “I am so tired of hearing about what the Trump voters want. I don’t care what they want. How’s that? And you know what? We do know what they want. They want a Confederate flag. We all know what this is about. I’m tired of hearing people, particularly men, explain to me what Hillary Clinton did wrong. Donald Trump didn’t win because he did something right; he won because he did something wrong. We always knew you could win that way – appealing to the worst. You’re just not supposed to win the presidency that way.”

  65. Lurker says:
    @BEER/ we're all going to die

    I’m often exhorted to “educate myself” or “read a history book” by people who, one suspects, have never read anything other than a Marvel comic.

  66. TTSSYF says:
    @24AheadDotCom

    Stopped reading at “Southern yahooism” and other slams against the South. No respectful, two-way conversation with such a person is possible.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  67. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @bgates

    The proto-EU were avid backers of Dixexit

  68. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achilles

    Urban Jews, like Chinese and high-caste dot-Indians, are finely attuned to status distinctions wherever they happen to be, and they make sure to be loudly heard extolling the virtues of the upper status legacy group (even if not-so-secretly resenting it) while equally loudly slamming the social rivals of that group (obviously with great enjoyment). This has been going on forever.

    In U.S. despite paltry numbers liberal Protestant industrialists are seemingly ensconced as the forever prestige group which Jews ape. It’s not a very informed aping (see the Columbia professor from a few posts back). All other American nations are to get the white trash treatment except where 1/1024th NAM.

    BTW there is a converse of this phenomenon which is pretty annoying too: ethnics who always claim to identify with and exploit for opportunistic self-justification the white-van-driving working class even when it’s completely out of touch and patronizing. Grifting Irishmen, tacky Slavs, and snooty Scandinavians are egregious in this regard.

  69. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Colin Wright

    As a loss-making newspaper funded off a trust, the Guardian is the purest expression of the media class and, contra conspiracy theories, it seems that billionaire owners are actually a moderating influence on this lunacy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  70. It Trump’s southern drawl that gives it away.

  71. dr kill says:
    @JLK

    People who are enslaved deserve it. So speaks history.

  72. Who can forget Mr. Obama leading a chorus of immigrants, Jews, Muslims, Latinos, trans people, gay people and women who want to exercise jurisdiction over their bodies in a rousing rendition of the Battle Hymn of the Republic at his second inaugural?

    In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
    With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me.
    As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free,
    While God is marching on.

    Glory, glory, hallelujah!
    Glory, glory, hallelujah!
    Glory, glory, hallelujah!
    While God is marching on.

  73. @Anonymous

    Hey, Hey!
    Ho, Ho!
    Crazy crackers
    Have to go!

    It’s good to see this.

    One of the things that’s happened since the rise of Trump is that “the mask has dropped”.

    Our elites, the left are just much more open about their hate. “Unwoke white gentiles you are scum and your days are numbered” now echoes rather freely from the NYT to the streets.

    The problem is that too many whites really are “unwoke”–they are snoozing as if politics is like 2000, if not 1960. White people need to wake the hell up and smell the stench.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
  74. Mnestheus says: • Website
    @songbird

    Since Upper Michigan abounds in native copper, a few native copperheads are to be expected.

  75. @Lurker

    If you bring up some history that is outside the scope of the Narrative, I find these types get quite hostile.

  76. bomag says:
    @Tex

    …they are busy crushing the Confederacy

    …and soon to have statues erected in their honor on a town space near you — or else.

  77. Big Cheef says:
    @24AheadDotCom

    2 years ago prior in here thought the world would end because no major political party would acknowledge a problem with immigration.
    Trump’s went way beyond that, but now he’s colluding with Pelosi because he isn’t using your specific rhetorical arguments on DACA?
    Some people can’t see the first four the trees.

  78. Anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:

    Damn nothing grates like pig-ignorant, ideologically motivated historical comparisons.

    Now remind me how many times on this website someone has tried to say that Israel = Nazis.

  79. bomag says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    realise that these pundits are not necessarily giving history lessons but setting out moral boundaries

    I’m familiar with these people. They are, indeed, giving us history lessons. Their playbook is Orwell: “Who controls the past controls the future.”

  80. @24AheadDotCom

    Your hate and bigotry is ruining this country. Why does progressive claims of tolerance exclude their opponents? It seems insincere and hypocritical.

  81. Stogumber says:

    I suppose that it was in the “red decade” that the American Left started to intensely embrace not only Lincoln, but the Civil War as a political model. This was a logical idea in particular for the Trotskyites who anyway craved for a worldwide civil war.
    WWII was in a way the first application of this political model, and it has been popular ever after.

  82. AndrewR says:

    Anyone who still doesn’t think that mainstream journalists (besides Tucker <3 ) are enemies of the people is an enemy of the people.

  83. peterike says:

    She’s basically a perfect Jewish / Irish mix in terms of looks.

  84. AndrewR says:
    @TTSSYF

    Not all Southerners are yahoos, and not all yahoos are southern, but I think you must admit that there is a distinctly southern flavor of yahooism (or southern flavors of yahooism), and that the GOP panders to a lot of it.

  85. AndrewR says:
    @James Speaks

    If Southerners were really afraid of that, they would have transitioned out of a slave economy ASAP and gotten rid of the blacks through deportation, extermination or forced population control.

    But they wanted to have their cake and eat it too: keep all the blacks and keep them enslaved.

  86. AndrewR says:
    @CCZ

    Not as brave as Robert Bowers

  87. Bill B. says:
    @Nigerian Nationalist

    In the 158th year of the American civil war, also known as 2018, the Confederacy continues its recent resurgence. Its victims include black people, of course, but also immigrants, Jews, Muslims, Latinos, trans people, gay people and women who want to exercise jurisdiction over their bodies.

    I wasn’t concentrating. I skipped across thinking ‘Yes, yes, very droll words by Mr Sailer” and then, Ye Gods, saw that it was written by someone affecting to be serious.

  88. the Confederacy continues its recent resurgence. Its victims include . . . Jews

    “Victims of the Confederacy” apparently include Judah P. Benjamin and David Levy Yulee.

  89. Anonymous[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @JLK

    Trump’s tribe didn’t own slaves for the most part. That would have been people of English descent.

    And people Jewish descent.

  90. anon[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @24AheadDotCom

    There are powerful arguments against that.

    What are the so-called “powerful” arguments against legalizing Dreamers?

    • Replies: @24AheadDotCom
  91. @songbird

    It’s easy to mock this sort of leftist lunacy, now in “Confederate!” form.

    But of course the GOP is the party of–and Trump appeals to–married white gentiles. The closer you are demographically to being a (private sector employed) married white gentile, the more likely you are to be a Trump voter.

    Rather the big lie here is that the “who whom” is precisely the reverse of what she claims.

    His supporters hark back to an 1860s fantasy of white male dominance. But the Confederacy won’t win in the long run

    In the 158th year of the American civil war, also known as 2018, the Confederacy continues its recent resurgence. Its victims include black people, of course, but also immigrants, Jews, Muslims, Latinos, trans people, gay people and women who want to exercise jurisdiction over their bodies.

    The desire–demand!–for dominance here is not white men wanting to dominate “black people” and “immigrants, Jews, Muslims, Latinos, trans people, gay people and women”, but the reverse!

    “Black people” and “immigrants, Jews, Muslims, Latinos, trans people, gay people and women” are demanding the right to dominate white guys–make white guys work for them and give them their white guy stuff.

    They–the “coalition of the fringes” are the “slave power”, trying to enslave white men. Trump’s appeal to us evil white guys is essentially that we can be left alone, live our lives as free men and not be looted and abused by the fringes.

    The way you can prove this is who is demanding what from whom? Or who is willing to separate form whom?

    This is the acid test that i was attempting to flush out in the previous Zero Ammendment comment thread:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-zeroth-amendment-explicated/#comment-2607940

    And the distinction between the whines of “oppression” from the fringes and actually slavery in the earlier comment:

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-zeroth-amendment-explicated/#comment-2607227

    ~~

    This “who-whom” dependency issue is why i think raising the “separate nations” question is quite powerful and needs to be done by Trump and nationalists repeatedly.

    Given the open treason and hatred (for white gentiles) that is now routine on the pages of the NYT, i’d be more than happy to split America right now. (We aren’t one nation, when “elites” openly spew out there desire to see the nation’s actual core population dispossesed.)

    Let’s have all the Hillary voters group up in their areas–i’ll happily move if that’s necessary. They can have their rainbow hued, open-borders, “nation of immigrants”, hands-up-don’t-shoot, gender fluid utopia. I’m actually not dependent on them and don’t need them whatsoever.

    We Trump voters can then have our regular old American nation. We’ll farm our fields, build our houses, tractors, trucks, cars, airplanes, drill for oil and gas (and do solar and nukes) and live our lives and get along just fine … in fact better! without being looted by the fringes.

    Mention “separate nations” and the resulting screams of anguish will tell you who is actually intent on looting whom.

  92. the Confederacy continues its recent resurgence. Its victims include . . . Jews

    Fortunately General Grant is marching to the rescue with his general order #11:

    “The Jews, as a class violating every regulation of trade established by the Treasury Department and also department orders, are hereby expelled from the Department within twenty-four hours from the receipt of this order.”

    “I have long since believed that in spite of all the vigilance that can be infused into Post Commanders, that the Specie regulations of the Treasury Dept. have been violated, and that mostly by Jews and other unprincipled traders. So well satisfied of this have I been at this that I instructed the Commdg Officer at Columbus to refuse all permits to Jews to come south, and frequently have had them expelled from the Dept. But they come in with their Carpet sacks in spite of all that can be done to prevent it. The Jews seem to be a privileged class that can travel any where.”

  93. anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Does this idiot Rebecca (Becky!) Solnit realized that she just called Trump a Democrat?

    That’s what the confederates were. The mortal enemies — the party that wanted to free the slaves were the Republicans.

    The DNC is the party of Hate – for America.

    • Replies: @CuckSlayer
  94. Anonymous[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @bgates

    hy should the South be prevented from freeing itself from slavery? And why should not the monopoly which the Northern states seek to fasten on the South be broken down?

    What monopoly is this passage referring to?

  95. @Sajanus

    For the more elite units, it’s even more racially lop-sided. This is unlikely to change, as the future military will require higher IQ recruits.

    Check the medical profession then get back to me on that unspoken premise. Rip Van Sajanus thinks the only relevant ethnicities are black and white.

    At least post-Jews seem allergic to the military. Must need to distance themselves from those brutish Israelis who are loathed by everyone who matters.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  96. Mr. Anon says:
    @AnonyBot

    What do these persistent and dramatic differences between various groups living side-by-side say about the likelihood of certain groups ever assimilating into the US mainstream?

    Good point.

  97. Mr. Anon says:
    @AnonyBot

    I say it’s time we called the multiculturalists bluff and start teaching more world history. Then we can teach the kiddies about all the nasty shit that other people have done.

    Another good point.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  98. @Desiderius

    As for unlikely to change, Obama laid a lot of the groundwork for doing just that. One of the principal aims of those with significant power who quietly backed and are backing Trump was/is to undo much of it.

    Unclear how much progress has been made.

  99. Venator says:

    And Trump’s mother was born in Tong in Scotland’s Outer Hebrides, which is pretty far south compared to the Shetland Islands or Spitzbergen. Also, Trump Tower is on 5th Avenue south of Central Park, if you get my drift.

    Furthermore, Trump’s grandfather comes from the Palatinate, then part of Bavaria, which is south of the river Main, Germany’s own Mason-Dixon-Line. In Germany’s War Between the States of 1866, Bavaria, alongside Austria and other backward German states, was defeated by the enlightened Northerners/Prussians. Hence obviously Trump’s revanchist resentment against the Forces of Progress and Morality.

  100. Anonymous[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnonyBot

    In contrast all of my ancestors were here during the Civil War, and I have a very large number of ancestors and relatives who served on the side of the Union.

    So a large number of your ancestors were the spear tip of imperialism and were murderers. That’s not something you should advertise.

    • Replies: @Federalist
  101. Forbes says:
    @24AheadDotCom

    Here, I’ve got a couple of hula hoops for your straw men to jump through…

  102. anon[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    These immigrants can’t vote. So they’re working hard to influence those who can

    Yet nary a peep in complaint about foreign interference in our elections.

  103. Spud Boy says:

    Steve, the subtitle of your blog should be:

    “Things kooky liberals write in formerly reputable publications.”

  104. Anti-whiteness in academia:

    Confronting ‘It’s OK to Be White’ Posters

    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2018/11/05/campuses-confront-spread-its-ok-be-white-posters

    For the last two years, the Anti-Defamation League has been documenting an increase in white supremacist activity (including posters) on college campuses. There were 292 cases of white supremacist propaganda reported on campuses during the 2017-18 academic year, compared to 165 in 2016-17.”

    It doesn’t take much to be a “white supremacist”, apparently. Being white and thinking that’s OK is enough.

  105. These fifth avenue Manhattan rural small farmers.

    ” Demographic shift” = Endless # mass immigration

  106. @JLK

    Pan British. Simply look at the names of modern day blacks as a general guide. Roguhly in proportion of the antebellum population.

  107. rufus says:
    @Anonymous

    This mistake is made repeatedly in castigating Alabama Mississippi etc.

  108. Anonymous[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    This “who-whom” dependency issue is why i think raising the “separate nations” question is quite powerful and needs to be done by Trump and nationalists repeatedly.

    Could you provide us with a kind of script for how specifically to raise this?

  109. Forbes says:

    One of the prog-left’s regular arguments is the claim, the criticism, that certain statements are dehumanizing–but this appears to be the very behavior expressed by Solnit. By analogizing with the Confederate South, her accusation contends that enslavement of others is not only desirable, but the end-state policy objective. There’s no suggestion this is said as exaggeration or hyperbole, but rather in all seriousness.

    It’s getting harder to not laugh out loud as these people…

  110. L Woods says:
    @Sajanus

    It’s one of the Establishment’s highest priorities “fix” these units’ hideously white racial composition (and to dissolve their cohesion and esprit d’corps by forcing women on them). Sad to say, these measures aren’t even necessary – white military men are loyal to their paychecks, not to white America. If you think they’ll refuse to quell “predominately white unrest,” you’re completely kidding yourself — they’ll do it with a smile. They were the shock troops of desegregation within living memory, as you’ll recall; they’re hardly going to shrink from putting down “white nationalists” today.

  111. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sajanus

    Interesting hypothetical. Makes you wonder if late 20th and early 21st centuries will be unusual for the bulk of Presidents coming from civilian backgrounds with maybe some war service sprinkled in.

    If the push for nationalism sticks, it is easy to see the military becoming a culturally unifying force for Hispanics, who lean towards patriarchal government if a few centuries of history are any cue. Not too many Cato or NOW supporters.

    Add a popular war and a few big tech companies moving to Northern Virginia. The coming decades could shape up to be the era of El Presidente, as you put it.

  112. JLK says:

    Don’t get completely lost in the anti-white rhetoric.

    There is a bigger issue of a lack of empathy and disdain for the working classes among the ever more powerful cognitive elite that needs to be addressed.

    Back in the days of WASP supremacy, marginalized Jews, Catholics and blacks provided intellectual leadership for the labor movement. It was no doubt a good thing that standardized tests were implemented and quotas eliminated so that (more theoretically in some cases than others) capable individuals from these groups could rise to their appropriate level, but it also reduced the talent pool of people speaking out on behalf of the oppressed.

    The labor movement has been decimated, and the Democratic Party hijacked by the Clintonites away from its traditional goals to support big business and militarism. Hillary Clinton called the Democrat’s former core New Deal constituency “deplorables,” and Democratic “thought leaders” like the New York Times were fully on board with that.

    Jewish Democrats are not monolithic. Bernie Sanders has pointed out that bringing in unlimited numbers of undocumented aliens hurts the working class. However, I suspect that many of the NYT columnists and others of their ilk viscerally associate the white working class with angry Ukrainians wielding clubs. Charles Blow probably has a similar limbic association of the white working class with hooded rednecks carrying ropes, although he doesn’t wear it on his sleeve as evidently as Michelle Goldberg.

    There needs to be a public dialogue leading such people to reexamine their views. We all have prejudices in the reptilian cores of our brains. Society functions better when we let our pre-frontal cortexes do the analysis.

    We need liberals who are going to stand up for the working people when important issues like the solvency of Social Security is addressed. We need liberals who care about the small town kids serving in the military. We need liberals who care about the ability of the working class to have their own online platforms to politically organize. Are Charles Blow and Michelle Goldberg going to step up to the plate when the time comes? It’s a good bet that Hillary Clinton would not have.

    The real elite in the United States is a group of corporate CEOs and billionaires. They tend to be politically invisible, but they are very conservative about issues like the distribution of wealth in society. Attacks on the largely white working class only serve their purposes, while issues like transgender rights are no skin off their backs. That’s why we see cultural Marxism from the so-called liberal press instead of quality investigative journalism on corporate excess and social welfare issues.

    The abovementioned real elite doesn’t want the proles organizing on the Internet, either. That’s why we’re likely to see continued efforts to suppress and undermine alternative news sources.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  113. @Achilles

    One can’t help noticing that arguably the most notable talent of Jews as an ethnic group throughout history (including, it appears, this mischling Rebecca) is their unparalleled ability to rhetorically anathematize those whom they consider their enemies.

    If by “throughout history” you mean the last few decades in the USA, then you may have a point.

  114. I seem to recall one of the smears that Dems used back in the day was that Lincoln was unqualified to be President. That he was just some backwoods rail-splitter who read a few lawyer books, and it got him all uppity.

    I also seem to recall Lincoln was against immigration used to supply cheap labor. I believe he started a war over it, as well as for keeping the Union intact for posterity, and eventually defeated an hysterical, embittered minority, one of whom eventually assasinated him.

    Since Lincoln had worked with congress to set aside over $200 million dollars with a rough plan to ship negroes out of the country after the war, with their destination yet to be determined due to the fuss Central and South America put up regarding the idea of us “dumping” Black people into their colonies, John Wilkes Booth’s political action had the unintentional effect of ensuring our former slaves were never shipped out en masse, as planned. After Lincoln’s death, the funding was never implemented, and the slaves never re-homed.

    Had Lincoln survived, and implemented his plan, we would have reduced The negro population to less than half of those living in this country by the 1880′s. Think of all the incarceration and administrative costs America would have saved since then and in the future, had Lincoln been allowed to work his plan. All the useless pain and suffering of the negro would have never existed. All the passionate division of our country, riots, lynchings, rapes, murdered, and the loss of America’s soul, never taking place. If only John Wilkes Booth had known.

    And now, dear Rebecca, you know the rest… of the story.

    • Replies: @Flip
  115. Anon[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @unit472

    That reminds ME that Ken Kesey was pretty much a redneck rather than a hippie. Tom Wolfe was shocked when, after Kesey one-upped a black gas station attendant, who had a gold tooth, with his own gold + pearl one, Kesey sadly remarked as they drove away that he shouldn’t have “out-niggered him.”

  116. Jim Given says:

    So, from context, it seems that a “Unionist” must be a Euro-Communist and globalist; a person who hates the national autonomy and prestige of the United States as a nation; and a “Confederate” must be an American patriot, a person who prioritizes the borders, the citizenry, and the well-being of the United States as a nation.

    Maybe if “the Union” kept growing steadily for 150 years between 1865 and now, so that it now includes the whole world, this notion has a chance.

    The semantic convention here is something like the Unity of All Good Causes; if Abe Lincoln and Barack Obama were two of the Good People, then they must have supported the same Cause. I wouldn’t want to play peacekeeper on a long stagecoach ride whose passengers included these two. As well try to interest Jeremiah Wright in the African Recolonization Society.

  117. BB753 says:

    The South rides again! LOL!

  118. Romanian says: • Website
    @CCZ

    The replies are hilarious. Someone said he’s a marine but he wouldn’t be brave enough to falsely accuse a judge of rape in front of Congress.

  119. densa says:
    @AnonyBot

    Worse than appropriating. They are caricaturing us, our society, our history to justify the so-far mostly non-kenetic war against us. White people are being turned into cartoons, de-humanized and the rule of law being redefined to use against us as a separate class of citizen.

  120. @Mr. Blank

    All general officers are political animals. That’s how they came to be generals.

  121. Tipsy says:

    Trump makes Solnit so mad she could boil a rabbit. She is not going to be ignored!

  122. @AnotherDad

    Agree. Very nicely put. But we cannot have our regular old American nation without a state that actively supports the the historic American Nation. Build that. Learn from and avoid the pie-in-the-sky mistakes of the founders (the majority of whom were in the fish oil business anyway).

  123. @Chrisnonymous

    Yeah, but they were the cucky straight white protestants. I mean Lincoln, Grant, and Sherman were the original neckbeards, weren’t they?

    If we are talking just religious views, Lincoln totally was. If we are talking about personality (credit to peppermint)…

    CR-style tl;dr appeals to congeniality, to a cuckservative:
    > You know what a poor correspondent I am. Ever since I received your very agreeable letter of the 22nd. of May I have been intending to write you in answer to it. You suggest that in political action now, you and I would differ. I suppose we would; not quite as much, however, as you may think. You know I dislike slavery; and you fully admit the abstract wrong of it. So far there is no cause of difference.

    Lincoln can’t even:
    > But you say that sooner than yield your legal right to the slave — especially at the bidding of those who are not themselves interested, you would see the Union dissolved. I am not aware that any one is bidding you to yield that right; very certainly I am not. I leave that matter entirely to yourself. I also acknowledge your rights and my obligations, under the constitution, in regard to your slaves. I confess I hate to see the poor creatures hunted down, and caught, and carried back to their stripes, and unrewarded toils; but I bite my lip and keep quiet. In 1841 you and I had together a tedious low-water trip, on a Steam Boat from Louisville to St. Louis. You may remember, as I well do, that from Louisville to the mouth of the Ohio, there were, on board, ten or a dozen slaves, shackled together with irons. That sight was a continued torment to me; and I see something like it every time I touch the Ohio, or any other slave-border. It is hardly fair for you to assume, that I have no interest in a thing which has, and continually exercises, the power of making me miserable. You ought rather to appreciate how much the great body of the Northern people do crucify their feelings, in order to maintain their loyalty to the Constitution and the Union.

    A moderate liberal:
    > I do oppose the extension of slavery, because my judgment and feelings so prompt me; and I am under no obligation to the contrary. If for this you and I must differ, differ we must. You say if you were President, you would send an army and hang the leaders of the Missouri outrages upon the Kansas elections; still, if Kansas fairly votes herself a slave state, she must be admitted, or the Union must be dissolved. But how if she votes herself a slave State unfairly — that is, by the very means for which you say you would hang men? Must she still be admitted, or the Union be dissolved? That will be the phase of the question when it first becomes a practical one. In your assumption that there may be a fair decision of the slavery question in Kansas, I plainly see you and I would differ about the Nebraska-law.

    Antifa on violence:
    > I look upon that enactment not as a law, but as violence from the beginning. It was conceived in violence, passed in violence, is maintained in violence, and is being executed in violence. I say it was conceived in violence, because the destruction of the Missouri Compromise, under the circumstances, was nothing less than violence. It was passed in violence, because it could not have passed at all but for the votes of many members in violence of the known will of their constituents. It is maintained in violence because the elections since, clearly demand it’s repeal, and this demand is openly disregarded. You say men ought to be hung for the way they are executing that law; and I say the way it is being executed is quite as good as any of its antecedents. It is being executed in the precise way which was intended from the first; else why does no Nebraska man express astonishment or condemnation? Poor Reeder is the only public man who has been silly enough to believe that any thing like fairness was ever intended; and he has been bravely undeceived.

    Dispassionate liberal-minded professor provides context:
    > That Kansas will form a Slave Constitution, and, with it, will ask to be admitted into the Union, I take to be an already settled question; and so settled by the very means you so pointedly condemn. By every principle of law, ever held by any court, North or South, every negro taken to Kansas is free; yet, in utter disregard of this — in the spirit of violence merely — that beautiful Legislature gravely passes a law to hang men who shall venture to inform a negro of his legal rights. This is the substance, and real object of the law. If, like Haman, they should hang upon the gallows of their own building, I shall not be among the mourners for their fate.

    More moderate liberalism:
    > In my humble sphere, I shall advocate the restoration of the Missouri Compromise, so long as Kansas remains a territory; and when, by all these foul means, it seeks to come into the Union as a Slave-state, I shall oppose it. I am very loth, in any case, to withhold my assent to the enjoyment of property acquired, or located, in good faith; but I do not admit that good faith, in taking a negro to Kansas, to be held in slavery, is a possibility with any man. Any man who has sense enough to be the controller of his own property, has too much sense to misunderstand the outrageous character of this whole Nebraska business. But I digress. In my opposition to the admission of Kansas I shall have some company; but we may be beaten. If we are, I shall not, on that account, attempt to dissolve the Union. On the contrary, if we succeed, there will be enough of us to take care of the Union. I think it probable, however, we shall be beaten. Standing as a unit among yourselves, you can, directly, and indirectly, bribe enough of our men to carry the day — as you could on an open proposition to establish monarchy. Get hold of some man in the North, whose position and ability is such, that he can make the support of your measure — whatever it may be — a democratic party necessity, and the thing is done. Appropos [sic] of this, let me tell you an anecdote. Douglas introduced the Nebraska bill in January. In February afterwards, there was a call session of the Illinois Legislature. Of the one hundred members composing the two branches of that body, about seventy were democrats. These latter held a caucus, in which the Nebraska bill was talked of, if not formally discussed. It was thereby discovered that just three, and no more, were in favor of the measure. In a day of two Dougla’s [sic] orders came on to have resolutions passed approving the bill; and they were passed by large majorities!!! The truth of this is vouched for by a bolting democratic member. The masses too, democratic as well as whig, were even, nearer unanamous [sic] against it; but as soon as the party necessity of supporting it, became apparent, the way the democracy began to see the wisdom and justice of it, was perfectly astonishing.

    Appeal to Christcuckoldry:
    > You say if Kansas fairly votes herself a free state, as a Christian you will rather rejoice at it. All decent slaveholders talk that way; and I do not doubt their candor. But they never vote that way. Although in a private letter, or conversation, you will express your preference that Kansas shall be free, you would vote for no man for Congress who would say the same thing publicly. No such man could be elected from any district in a slave-state. You think Stringfellow & Co. ought to be hung; and yet, at the next presidential election you will vote for the exact type and representative of Stringfellow. The slave-breeders and slave-traders, are a small, odious and detested class, among you; and yet in politics, they dictate the course of all of you, and are as completely your masters, as you are the master of your own negroes. You inquire where I now stand. That is a disputed point — I think I am a whig; but others say there are no whigs, and that I am an abolitionist. When I was in Washington I voted for the Wilmot Proviso as good as forty times, and I never heard of any one attempting to unwhig me for that. I now do no more than oppose the extension of slavery.

    Accusing the opposition of being stupid Russians who don’t share Our Values:
    > I am not a Know-Nothing. That is certain. How could I be? How can any one who abhors the oppression of negroes, be in favor or degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we began by declaring that “all men are created equal.” We now practically read it “all men are created equal, except negroes” When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read “all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.” When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretence of loving liberty — to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocracy [sic].

    > back to the oleaginous congeniality
    Mary will probably pass a day to two in Louisville in October. My kindest regards to Mrs. Speed. On the leading subject of this letter, I have more of her sympathy that I have of yours. And yet let me say I am

    > Yours friend forever
    > A. Lincoln

  124. pyrrhus says:
    @Mr. Blank

    Fact is that Northerners didn’t want blacks in their midst, and after the war the Northern Army restricted the movements of the “freed” blacks….

  125. fnn says:

    Jewish liberal James Howard Kunstler goes “Red”:

    http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/social-justice/

    It may be as simple as this: voters look at the two parties and decide that they don’t want the nation to turn into a gigantic seminar on race and gender studies. The Democratic Party doesn’t have a platform, it has a curriculum. The party wants to instruct everybody how to think and act. You will be tested regularly on the correctness of your thought. And if you fail or object, say goodbye to your livelihood.

    That’s the main reason that the Golden Golem of Greatness plays so well in the forsaken flyover precincts of this troubled land. They are weary of being scolded for their “privilege” by the privileged undergraduates of the most elite campuses. And from there, of course, the astounding hypocrisy informs and infects Democratic politics up to the highest level — e.g. the mendacious sex hysteria engineered by Diane Feinstein and a corps of DC swamp lawyers in the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing.

    This year’s main gambit by the Democrats has been the niggerization of white people. Oh, did I say the wrong word? It happens to describe exactly what has gone on: the effort to make white people the object of contempt and loathing. You don’t have to look further than The New York Times and its hiring of Sarah Jeong as an editorial writer — after she was discovered to be the author of Twitter tweets that declared, “Cancel white people,” and “Oh man, It’s sick how much joy I get from being cruel to old white men,” and “dumbass fucking white people….” I’m wondering: is there any ambiguity there? By the way, a search of The Times website for “by Sarah Jeong” comes up absolutely empty, suggesting that they’ve published nothing written by her since she got hired. There’s a show of confidence in their integrity!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Forbes
  126. @AnonyBot

    I say it’s time we called the multiculturalists bluff and start teaching more world history.

    That’s actually a genius idea, but only if world history itself could be taught accurately. For example, I’d love to see some budding SJWs sign up for “AmerIndian Cultural Studies” thinking they will learn how First Peoples were such spiritual, peace-loving environmentalists. And then get red-pilled about their non-stop warfare, slave-trading, human sacrifice etc.

    The problem is PC textbooks take all of this out and just talk about corn-farming and family structure and yaaaawn . . . . people of all political persuasions just fall asleep and tune out.

    One reason the Nazis loom so large in the public mind is that they are so damn interesting. Historians and pop culture are encouraged (indeed, required) to recount all of their atrocities and aggression in the most lurid detail possible.

    The deadly boring “balanced” socio-economic histories of other peoples just can’t compete.

  127. pyrrhus says:
    @AnotherDad

    Indeed, the parasites aren’t quite ready to give up their host…

  128. @Nigerian Nationalist

    Once you realise that these pundits are not necessarily giving history lessons but setting out moral boundaries, it all makes sense.

    You are right. That’s exactly what they’re doing, and it works amazingly well. *This* is what election interference looks like.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  129. @AnonyBot

    The problem with your analysis is that:
    - Unionists weren’t fighting to end slavery, they were fighting to preserve “the Union”; and
    - it was not a civil war, it was a war of cessation, more akin to the Revolution “four score and seven years ago”.

  130. @TheBoom

    The number of those, who are “half fellow white” and identify as a “fellow white” could be counted on your thumbs.

  131. @24AheadDotCom

    The fact is that without The South, the U.S. would be much better

    What would it be? Canada?

  132. @songbird

    Even worse than Copperheads, the UP is full of Finns and we all know where they came from. Yeah, that’s right, they came from South of the North Pole (albeit just barely, but they’re definitely Southerners in relation to the North Pole).

  133. anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achilles

    (including, it appears, this mischling Rebecca)

    It’s comments like this that make the iSteve blog creepy as hell.

  134. Trump Is A Confederate President — So What?

    Trump combined the Southern Strategy and the German Strategy to win the White House.

    The Southern Strategy is to win the votes of Anglo-Celtic Protestants in the South in combination with the votes of Catholic ethnics in the North.

    The German Strategy is to win the votes of German Americans in the Great Lakes states in combination with the votes of Southern Anglo-Celts.

    Trump won the WOMP states — Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania — by winning the votes of German American voters.

    Trump won Florida with the votes of Anglo-Celts in the northern portion of Florida in combination with the votes of snowbirds from the Great Lakes states and the Northeast.

    The Confederate Battle Flag Is A Beautiful Flag!

    • Replies: @Forbes
  135. @Lurker

    Nobody tells me to read history these days and when I was much younger I vaguely recall being encouraged to read just in general. People believed reading would make you smarter like weight lifting builds muscle. I come across people reading things like “Killing JFK” (etc.), biographies of popular figures. Military history, mainly battlefield history, was common with guys, naturally. The vast majority of my reading is online, which I’m always trying to change, but there is so much good content out there you know.

  136. GSR says:

    Even our “cousins” in Britain, let alone nearly all other foreigners, are clueless about domestic US politics. Absolutely clueless.

  137. iAspie says:

    After reading that opinion piece, and having suffer-scanned through the most recent Chas Blow piece in the far-left NYT, I’m very motivated to vote tomorrow. And merely seeing the headline of the article reviewing Max “Das” Boot’s latest witerary gem caused the milk in my fridge to curdle and cajones to contract defensively.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  138. The American civil war didn’t end. And Trump is a Confederate president

    Trump Is A German American President

    Trump is one half German and Trump won the votes of German Americans in the WOMP states — Wisconsin, Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

    Trump used the GERMAN STRATEGY to win the White House.

    The GERMAN STRATEGY is to win the votes of German Americans in the Great Lakes states in combination with the votes of the Anglo-Celts in the Southern states.

    German American President Trump won Florida by winning the votes of the Anglo-Celts in the northern portion of Florida in combination with the votes of snowbirds from the Great Lakes states and the votes of snowbirds from the Northeast.

  139. Anonymous[390] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman

    Once you realise that these pundits are not necessarily giving history lessons but setting out moral boundaries, it all makes sense.

    It is charitable to refer to these boundaries as moral.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  140. Regret says:
    @Anonymous

    So thats a bunch of forigen nationals trying to influence an american election, right? This calls for a two year special investigation and accompanying media circus, right?

  141. Anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @iAspie

    After reading that opinion piece, and having suffer-scanned through the most recent Chas Blow piece in the far-left NYT, I’m very motivated to vote tomorrow.

    Do you know any other people like you though?

    • Replies: @iAspie
  142. @Anonymous

    It is charitable to refer to these boundaries as moral.

    She’s telling is what’s right and what’s wrong. She’s telling us what to think and how to behave if we want to be a good member of the group. Of course, these are not rules that benefit the group, so in that sense it’s not a genuine morality, but this is essentially “moral” programming designed to induce maladaptive altruism.

  143. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:

    Interesting that the New York Times decided to include details about the Somali immigrant population. Almost as if these warm and innocent newcomers are set in contrast to the remote, scary native Iowans.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  144. Anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @fnn

    It may be as simple as this: voters look at the two parties and decide that they don’t want the nation to turn into a gigantic seminar on race and gender studies. The Democratic Party doesn’t have a platform, it has a curriculum.

    Oh, but it does have an agenda: the annihilation of the White race.

  145. His supporters hark back to an 1860s fantasy of white male dominance.

    More evidence for John Derbyshire’s observation that “Goodwhites have no clue what Badwhites believe.”

    [Some white men] see themselves and their privileges as under threat in a society in which women are gaining powers, and demographic shift is taking us to a US in which white people will be a minority by 2045.

    This idea keeps getting repeated, in the hope that people will believe it. It is propaganda.

    There are lots of good reasons for not wanting white Americans to become a minority. The idea that white men are afraid of losing their supposed privileges to Mexicans and Somalis is a fantasy so bizarre that only Guardian journalists and their US counterparts could be foolish enough to believe it.

  146. Anonymous[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @JLK

    Bernie Sanders has pointed out that bringing in unlimited numbers of undocumented aliens hurts the working class.

    Then took it all back when pushed.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  147. iAspie says:
    @Anonymous

    @Anonymous[358] (if indeed that is your real name ;)

    Admittedly, I don’t know many who are able to admit their cultural/political leanings publicly. But they do exist.

  148. Flip says:
    @Histrydude

    Lincoln was against the Mexican-American War, calling it immoral, proslavery, and a threat to the nation’s republican values.

  149. Forbes says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Then we can teach the kiddies about all the nasty shit that other people have done.

    I think you’ll find the world history taught in most places is the corollary to US history–foreign, exotic, heroic peoples, like Amerindians, Blacks, and Hispanics, have cultures and civilizations that White man has a lot to learn from. It’s no different from the trashy, distorted, ahistoric US history being taught.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  150. Forbes says:
    @fnn

    Kunstler is missing the little detail that Jeong is on the editorial board, not an opinion columnist. The editorial board composes the house editorial opinions made in the paper’s name, and do not have a writer’s name attached.

    While Brooks, Krugman, Kristof, Friedman, et al., are on the editorial board, they write regularly under their own names.

  151. @Redneck farmer

    Maybe Weird Al could parody

    OT – at first glance I read “Al Gore” lol

  152. Forbes says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    And from Illinois to Oregon, you likely don’t have to take your shoes and socks off to count the number of people flying the stars and bars…

    Writers like this are the opposite of iSteve’s “crime of noticing”–the act of pattern recognition. They notice the trivial exceptions to the patterns of life and report it as news.

  153. @AnonyBot

    The logic and reasoning power of Ms. Solnit is on par with Pinto and the pot-smoking professor in this classic scene from Animal House, the money quote starts at 1:50

  154. @Anonymous

    @AnonyBot
    In contrast all of my ancestors were here during the Civil War, and I have a very large number of ancestors and relatives who served on the side of the Union.

    So a large number of your ancestors were the spear tip of imperialism and were murderers. That’s not something you should advertise.

    Anonybot’s ancestors were presumably soldiers doing their duty. There were probably no “murderers” among them, at least as the term is understood by those who aren’t mentally deficient or insane.

    Arguably, you could say that Lincoln and perhaps Union generals, political figures, etc. were imperialists. (Of course, you could say it without saying something as silly as “spear tip of imperialism.”) But, blaming common soldiers for what you perceive to be the Union’s sins is no better than those who hold common Confederate soldiers responsible for slavery and want to tear down any monument related to the Confederacy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  155. Forbes says:
    @anon

    Yeah, it’s not Morrigan McCarthy’s biggest fear–but that of anonymous others from rural towns whose biggest fear was something that doesn’t happen–random, inexplicable murder. Tragic death is more likely to come from a farming accident.

    The upstate rural town (founded 1794) where I spent youthful summers had its first ever murder about 20 years ago. It went unsolved for a couple years–the perp was a transient carnival worker associated with the town’s annual 4th of July festivities whom a dogged State Police investigator finally nabbed.

    One in 200 years is basically something that doesn’t happen…

  156. Mr. Anon says:
    @Forbes

    We wouldn’t have to teach it that way.

    • Replies: @Forbes
  157. @anon

    “That’s what the confederates were. The mortal enemies — the party that wanted to free the slaves were the Republicans.”

    Cucks never tire of their tedious “Dems R the Real Racists” schtick

  158. Anonymous[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheBoom

    how they don’t require Israel to live by the same rules

    I am not going to even bother to look it up because I am close to 100% certain that Rebecca Solnit, a Guardian writer, is anti-Israel.

    • Replies: @anon
  159. @anon

    If Sailer weren’t just interested in wringing donations out of people while doing nothing for them, he’d oppose the yahooism displayed in my replies. Enabling such yahooism is what Trump does and it does the USA no good. Trump only plays to those on the far-left of the Bell Curve and has never made a valid argument that would sway the minds of those who didn’t already agree with him.

    I specifically requested such an argument and no one was able to provided it. IHTG, Mr. Rational, Federalist simply smeared me without even trying a counterargument, and @Anonymous, @TTSSYF, @Big Cheef, @eddy wobegon, @anon, @Forbes, @Henry’s Cat just replied with smears or demonstrations of said yahooism.

    My name’s link has the arguments I want Trump to make. It should have been incredibly easy for anyone to find it, but some can’t figure out what “DotCom” means and those are the types of people Trump attracts. Trump attracts those who smear someone who wants to repatriate DREAMers (hint: me) and who idolize someone who wants to legalize DREAMers (hint: Trump).

    Sailer really needs to work to raise the bar and educate his fans rather than enabling yahooism.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  160. Marty T says:
    @TheBoom

    She may very well require the same rules for Israel. Many Jews (and she’s not even technically jewish) oppose some of the current policies.

  161. @24AheadDotCom

    Being on the spectrum is nothing to be ashamed of.

  162. Anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    But “Muh Abe Lincoln” was a hero!

    My dimwit teachers said so.

    Why don’t you consider Lincoln to have been a hero?

  163. Anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Then took it all back when pushed.

    Exactly. And now is back with the anti-White rhetoric and Nazi scaremongering.

  164. Anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @Federalist

    Anonybot’s ancestors were presumably soldiers doing their duty. There were probably no “murderers” among them, at least as the term is understood by those who aren’t mentally deficient or insane.

    They killed people who were defending their home. “Murderers” is an accurate label.

    • Replies: @Federalist
  165. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    I am not going to even bother to look it up because I am close to 100% certain that Rebecca Solnit, a Guardian writer, is anti-Israel.

    An anti-Zionist writer could never get hired by the Guardian.

  166. JimS says:
    @AnotherDad

    With respect, I dissent.

    I have no idea what Mme. Solnit is getting at with “1860s fantasy of white male dominance.” But I think the dominance of white males is in fact the same now as it was then: whites demanding to dominate other whites by forcibly keeping them in the same union.

    ‘Mention “separate nations” and the resulting screams of anguish will tell you who is actually intent on looting whom.’

    How is this any different from the Civil War, as stated? It was the CSA that just wanted to be a separate nation. They were forced into being retained in union by the non-seceding states. The North claimed the moral high ground of freeing slaves as part of its justification, largely because its colder climate made the “peculiar institution” unprofitable in those states. But in the end it was purely an act of Goodwhites wanting to dominate Badwhites. The Goodwhites would have loved to banish the slaves to Liberia, but they could not do without the Badwhites. Today, the Goodwhites use minorities as a cudgel, again as a method for retaining their dominance over Badwhites. Saying it is the minorities themselves wanting to dominate the Badwhites might give the coalition of the fringes a bit too much credit for strategy, initiative and forethought.

    Also, as to the post you are replying to (since you did not seem to bring them up), is there a political group in history more maligned than the Copperheads? A group whose philosophy can best be described as “wayward sisters, go in peace” was vilified and condemned as treasonous or traitorous, in some cases worse despised than northerners who actually fought for the CSA. It brings to my mind Thomas More’s quote: “I do no­body harm, I say none harm, I think none harm, but wish everybody good. And if this be not enough to keep a man alive, in good faith, I long not to live.”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  167. @JimS

    I have no idea what Mme. Solnit is getting at with “1860s fantasy of white male dominance.”

    She wants Rhett Butler to carry her up the grand staircase.

  168. Anonymous[291] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Blank

    Apropos of this topic, there was also McClellan.

  169. Anonymous[291] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    Is there any major newspaper that is actually solvent?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
  170. Tyrion 2 says:
    @Anonymous

    Many newspapers are highly profitable again. Even “i” (formerly the Independent) makes money, indeed 30% of turnover! Amazing what you can do with clickbait articles written by interns.

    https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/johnston-press-says-it-is-now-making-1m-a-month-profit-from-i-newspaper/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  171. Anonymous[291] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Bernie’s an old man at the end of his career. What can they do to him?

  172. Anonymous[291] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tyrion 2

    That’s impressive. I remember when the Independent was the regular butt of jokes for its constant money problems.

  173. @Anonymous

    They killed people who were defending their home. “Murderers” is an accurate label.

    Soldiers killing other soldiers in battle are not murderers. But, Anonymous, you made my point that they were not “murderers” as the term is understood by those who aren’t mentally deficient or insane.

  174. Forbes says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Who is this “we” you speak of, that will teach World History some other way than it is currently taught?

  175. Well, his granddad Frederick was born in Kallstadt, Kingdom of Bavaria, that’s south of our https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weißwurstäquator. Those Southerners are pretty racist against us Northerners. (“Saupreißn”, Prussian sows)

    • Replies: @theo the kraut
  176. @theo the kraut

    …we retaliate by having them pay our deficits, heh.

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