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  1. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Your link takes the user to the 1:14 mark of the video after the skit has ended.

    Also, I’m confounded by Poe’s Law: are they SWPL anti-white or mocking SWPL anti-white?

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  2. timothy says:

    Whites will be relegated to historical footnote, just like in Latin America. Oh, wait…

    It’s less white obsolescence than the slow, steady Hollywood Hills-ization of American whites. Depressing.

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  3. timothy says:

    “are they SWPL anti-white or mocking SWPL anti-white?”

    both.

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  4. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The commenters over on you tube didn’t seem to enjoy the skit too much

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  5. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    It’s funny because it’s a little subversive underneath the SWPL tropes. The pic of the moon landing clinches it.

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    It's subversive because there's a subtle bit of psychological conditioning involved. It promotes a message of inevitablism in order to psychologically condition whites to a sense of resignation and passivity. You see this sort of thing in stuff by Louis C.K. and other Jewish culture producers.
    , @dumpstersquirrel
    "It’s funny because it’s a little subversive underneath the SWPL tropes. The pic of the moon landing clinches it."

    Maybe at least one SNL writer reads SBPDL. A man walking on the moon as the pinnacle of white achievement is a recurring theme of Paul Kersey's blog.

    , @e
    Yes, the "pic of the moon landing" is "subversive," a reminder that Hispanics aren't going to be taking us into the next frontier (and that blacks never have), but it's revealing that the picture is the only reminder of that. To have included more such reminders, even one, would have been racisssss. Can't have that on SNL.
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  6. Kaz says:

    I feel like this skit is more like a subversive PSA for “holy shit do you really want Mexicans to be running things in 50 years. “

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  7. Bill M says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    It's funny because it's a little subversive underneath the SWPL tropes. The pic of the moon landing clinches it.

    It’s subversive because there’s a subtle bit of psychological conditioning involved. It promotes a message of inevitablism in order to psychologically condition whites to a sense of resignation and passivity. You see this sort of thing in stuff by Louis C.K. and other Jewish culture producers.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Louis C.K. is only one-fourth Jewish by ancestry. He is not religiously or culturally Jewish.
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  8. Wilkey says:

    Speaking of: Google has found a way to put more NAMs on its payroll – it’s insourcing its security personnel, who will now be employees rather than employed by a contractor.

    From the article:“Blacks and Latinos make up 41 percent of all private security guards in Silicon Valley, 72 percent of all janitorial and building cleaning workers, and 76 percent of all grounds maintenance workers”

    Google could add several hundred NAMs to its payroll this way. However…landscape workers and janitors are often illegals, while security guards are not. Google probably doesn’t want to put itself in the position of hiring large numbers of illegal aliens, so it has only chosen to hire the guards.

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  9. @Dave Pinsen
    It's funny because it's a little subversive underneath the SWPL tropes. The pic of the moon landing clinches it.

    “It’s funny because it’s a little subversive underneath the SWPL tropes. The pic of the moon landing clinches it.”

    Maybe at least one SNL writer reads SBPDL. A man walking on the moon as the pinnacle of white achievement is a recurring theme of Paul Kersey’s blog.

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  10. Anonitron says:

    “It’s funny because it’s a little subversive underneath the SWPL tropes. The pic of the moon landing clinches it.”

    I tend to think there’s a lot of semi-normal-dudeishness behind the scenes at SNL (most east-coast comics tend to be nominally liberal but generally normal dude-ish white-ethnics often without college educations and exposure to tumblr style feelings-politics). Tina Fey was able to run the show there for years, after all, and 30 Rock is one of the most surreptitiously conservative shows ever on network television.

    Also whenever I see Sarah Silverman or see her mentioned I have to wonder what she really thinks of her Kibbutzim sister.

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    SNL writers are not recruited from the comedy scene for the most part. They are mostly recruited from publications like the Harvard Lampoon and are generally very young. The retirement of Downey has been a disaster for that reason because it's pretty clear there are no adults in the room. I think that Lorne Michaels insistence that the Weekend Update anchors also be writers in order to catch lighting in a bottle again like he did with Fey and Seth Meyers is exacerbating this because the product speaks for itself and the new Yost guy obviously can't write.

    30 Rock was conservative in the way All in the Family and that Michael J Fox show from when he was a kid were conservative: their parody right-winger struck a cord and become sufficiently popular that they had to keep feeding them good lines. Also it seems pretty clear that Fey is a pretty misanthropic person at heart and misanthropy can lean conservstive at times.

    One more purely speculative item it seems Obama's victory over Clinton definitely dredged up some resentment at blacks that Fey took out on the Tracy Jordan character.
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  11. Whiskey says: • Website

    This was intended to mock White people, but ended up being the opposite. What moon landings has Mexico done again? Camping for Mexicans seems to be limited to lining up a day before Black Friday at Wal-Mart.

    Moreover, things are going to go downhill fast. Mexicans are far more reliant than Whites on massive welfare spending, including but not limited to free School Breakfasts and lunches. Blacks are already a massive drain on the treasury, both directly from Welfare spending and indirectly from Affirmative Action promoting people beyond their competence levels, making government often stupid and destructive.

    As the Mexican/Central American population balloons, expect a fight over what else, money. And it means that Whites won’t be able to do things they like, such as hiking, camping, fishing, or not being beaten by Gentle Giants(tm) or other examples of urban vibrancy. All the money spent educating, feeding, clothing, and otherwise caring for (including imprisonment) of the new vibrancy entering America, and their high amount of offspring, will mean far less money for everything else. It is not as if the world is getting more peaceful, quite the reverse.

    The problem is that Urban Professional Whites are in an eternal war with suburban professional Whites not to mention Rural Whites. However, growing Vibrancy will likely kick out the Urban Professionals in favor of cheaper Indian and Chinese alternatives, or mandatory Mexican/Central American replacements. Sarah Silverman can’t be fired, because she’s her own boss, but half the cast of SNL could be and replaced by say, Vibrant comics from Latin America. Do enough of that and you create a whole cadre of people who are now on the other side.

    I am not optimistic about this country.

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  12. Eh, “Video uploader hasn’t made this video available in your country”.
    Us Fijians miss out again.

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    if you're not in the US, watch it here:

    http://sony847.tumblr.com/video/99218200838

    Btw, it's weird that the elite media support open borders and immigration , but they won't let an Australian watch their content.
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  13. majneb says:

    Wait, so is Sarah Silverman “white?”

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  14. So….more white bashing from a largely white show. How original, as in, circa 1978. At least when Richard Pryor did the white bashing schtick he was among the first in popular culture.

    The irony is that SNL, has as been recently pointed out, is a show largely created and run by the same power structure that has dominated Hollywood at large for…most of the 20th century.

    One could suppose a skit entitled “Blacks?”, where tons and tons of Sharneequises, LaTrelles, and Vanessa Robinson Hawkins-Smiths control all the major depts of the studios, from VP of Production, Wardrobe Dept, etc. Yes, modern Hollywood abandoned the old studio system decades ago but there is still large swaths of production that do take place in SoCal and many of the old studios (MGM, Paramount, Warners, etc) still survive.

    The punch line at the end: The last white person, oh…named Bernie Curtis, head of Production, is about to be canned but instead he has a change of heart and voluntarily resigns in favor of guest star on show Rachel Jeantel. He gives a long speech noting the error of his ways of only hiring whites all these many yrs and realizes that he has been a major part of the problem. All the time Jeantel nods away in agreement and at the final close up, with Bernie heading out the door, she yells “See you out the door, creepy ass whitey!” She smiles at the audience and says “Now looks like we finally at long last can get some good entertainment made by us and for us!”

    Now that would be an original skit. Wonder when SNL will make it this year? Or next yr? Or next decade?

    Imagine how “funny” it would be if whites no longer ran the show in the most literal sense.

    Remembering how Mel Gibson’s drunken rant a few yrs ago was soooo well received by Hollywood’s power structure, I tend to think that that type of skit, labeled “Blacks” wouldn’t be as well received. And it certainly wouldn’t be well received in private, would it. “Imagine, one day WE (those that really count in the film world) could be supplanted and replaced by….those people?”

    Nope, not seeing that skit being made in the future or anytime soon.

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  15. Yeah, I’m pretty sure the SNL writers know the score. I mean, come on. Western civilization was made by white people, and the non-white countries have thrived entirely based on how well they’ve imitated that. (With the big exception being their ability to imitate Communism). So, going on hikes and hugging dad and a self-effacing goofiness and flying to the moon are literally what we’re leaving behind. (America anyway.)

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    I mean, come on. Western civilization was made by white people, and the non-white countries have thrived entirely based on how well they’ve imitated that.
     
    The first part of that sentence is obvious to anyone with a functioning brain, but the second part is not quite true.

    Successful civilization don't appear whole like Athena out of Zeus' head. They are frequently built upon another successful one or certainly incorporate superior aspects of the same. The Latins built theirs upon a Hellenic foundation, but theirs was not "entirely" based on the latter (and the same with the Germanics upon a Roman foundation).

    Similarly, one could argue that modern East Asian cultures are fairly successful (with perhaps a giant question mark about mainland China). They certainly adopted many aspects of the successful and hitherto dominant Western culture, but that does not mean their success was derived "entirely based on how well they've imitated" the West. After all, they did build flourishing, advanced, and powerful civilizations before "the Rise of the West."

    And I write this as an unabashed lover of the Western Civilization.

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  16. Twinkie says:

    The hesitant handing over of the globe to the Mexican was a nice touch.

    I just received one of those e-mail alerts from the Center for Immigration Studies, which contained this about non-English speakers in the United States:

    Languages with more than a million speakers in 2013 were Spanish (38.4 million), Chinese (three million), Tagalog (1.6 million), Vietnamese (1.4 million), French (1.3 million), and Korean and Arabic (1.1million each). Tagalog is the national language of the Philippines.

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    • Replies: @D. K.
    How many of those 1.3 million residents primarily speaking French, in the United States, are Whites of ethnic-French descent, and how many are either Haitian(s) or Black-African immigrants from other former French colonies?
    , @Borachio
    "The hesitant handing over of the globe to the Mexican was a nice touch."

    But it should have been a ceramic globe. The white hands it to the Mexican, who promptly drops it on the floor, smashing it.

    Even better would be if the white gave the globe to a certain other minority that I won't identify except to say that their ancestors were slaves. The minority smashes it deliberately and tries to eat it. :-)

    , @S. Verdad
    The 2010 census estimates >2m who speak French at home. From Wikipedia's "French-American": About 11.8 million U.S. residents are of French or French Canadian descent, and about 2 million speak French at home.[4] An additional
    450,000 U.S. residents speak a French-based creole language

    Those numbers seem a bit off to me. I can count with two hands the total number of white French speakers I have encountered in over 15 yrs. with immigration.

    Speaking of 'French', Louis C.K. is clearly with it enough to know what time it is. The anti-white stuff, while unfortunate, appears merely obligatory. Or maybe that's just wishful misinterpretation on my part. I will say that he is the funniest MF to come down the pike in a long time.
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  17. eah says:

    The still looks like Obama campaign staffers partying after the election.

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  18. retired says:

    Funny. I’d put it on Facebook but I’d lose half my friends instantly,..not a bad idea.

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  19. Mr. Anon says:

    I remember when SNL was funny. it was in September 1976.

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  20. FWIW says:

    White is the best brand in the history of the world. Better than Marlboros or Coke. And more enduring. I would give Coke and Marlboros 50 to 100 years, and white? White isn’t going away anytime soon.

    There is a big difference between living in the US and running the US. Elites always run things. And if/when Mexican Americans get through Yale and Harvard Law (or vice versa), they will be as culturally white as the Bushes. And I have a hunch that they will marry white.

    Regardless. The SNL piece was great.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Good point. It's not like Hispanics are suddenly going to start dominating high skilled sectors of the US economy. You're not going to see a flood of Hispanic surgeons or engineers. Whites and Asians will still dominate the technical fields like computer science, finance and medicine. I could see whites losing political power, however. Even though Hispanics aren't as politically active as other races, their sheer numbers will tilt the country to the left.
    , @viking
    whistling in the dark pal they hate us
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  21. Justin says:

    When the woman says “let’s get at least 4 more [white] presidents” that’s tacitly acknowledging something pretty important–that non-whites vote for someone of their own race regardless of the candidate’s capabilities or experience. (at least as long as that person is viewed as race-loyal.) In contrast we have a majority white electorate right now, but a non-white president.

    It’s not something that liberal whites would ever acknowledge explicitly, but this shows that they know it implicitly.

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    This infuriates me. I work with third worlders and it's so obvious they give jobs, votes and money to their own kins. My WORKING CLASS White friends seem to intuitively understand this. Yet stupid MIDDLE CLASS Whites are so naive and consider policies, universalist morality w/o the slightest awareness that those darkskins would have them forced into slavery if they ever took power.
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  22. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Qusie Kiramati
    Eh, "Video uploader hasn't made this video available in your country".
    Us Fijians miss out again.

    if you’re not in the US, watch it here:

    http://sony847.tumblr.com/video/99218200838

    Btw, it’s weird that the elite media support open borders and immigration , but they won’t let an Australian watch their content.

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    Yes, Australians are merely 'undocumented viewers' yearning to be free. Come on Google, give them a break.
    , @Chubby Ape
    Thanks for the link to the video for us non-US residents.

    "Btw, it’s weird that the elite media support open borders and immigration , but they won’t let an Australian watch their content."

    Yeah it's funny how nations and borders are a thing of the past but protecting their revenue stream from selling foreign distribution rights is still real enough for them to care about.
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  23. Will liberals ever take a closer look at the genetic make up of the people who actually run Mexico? I assume Mexicans of Mestizo and Indio descent are well aware that whites run everything, maybe that is why they are so politically passive. To them it is the natural order of things.

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    Fox was a half foot taller than Bush (who is of above average height), but I don't think too many people in Washington or New York paid much attention.
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  24. Bert says:

    Do people really still watch linear television?

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  25. @Peter Akuleyev
    Will liberals ever take a closer look at the genetic make up of the people who actually run Mexico? I assume Mexicans of Mestizo and Indio descent are well aware that whites run everything, maybe that is why they are so politically passive. To them it is the natural order of things.

    Fox was a half foot taller than Bush (who is of above average height), but I don’t think too many people in Washington or New York paid much attention.

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  26. Vinaka Vakelevu commenter 18 anon. I see the video now.

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  27. […] Source: Steve Sailer […]

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  28. “‘are they SWPL anti-white or mocking SWPL anti-white?’

    both.”

    As if.

    Everyone in that vid had their goofy Joel Osteen awkward smiles on. Obvious SWPL trolls are obvious.

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  29. D. K. says:
    @Twinkie
    The hesitant handing over of the globe to the Mexican was a nice touch.

    I just received one of those e-mail alerts from the Center for Immigration Studies, which contained this about non-English speakers in the United States:

    Languages with more than a million speakers in 2013 were Spanish (38.4 million), Chinese (three million), Tagalog (1.6 million), Vietnamese (1.4 million), French (1.3 million), and Korean and Arabic (1.1million each). Tagalog is the national language of the Philippines.
     

    How many of those 1.3 million residents primarily speaking French, in the United States, are Whites of ethnic-French descent, and how many are either Haitian(s) or Black-African immigrants from other former French colonies?

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    How many of those 1.3 million residents primarily speaking French, in the United States, are Whites of ethnic-French descent, and how many are either Haitian(s) or Black-African immigrants from other former French colonies?
     
    I do not know.
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  30. From this link:

    http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/

    “My hunch – both the Red Tribe and the Blue Tribe, for whatever reason, identify ‘America’ with the Red Tribe. Ask people for typically ‘American’ things, and you end up with a very Red list of characteristics – guns, religion, barbecues, American football, NASCAR, cowboys, SUVs, unrestrained capitalism.”

    “But I think the situation with “white” is much the same as the situation with “American” – it can either mean what it says, or be a code word for the Red Tribe.” (emphasis added)

    “And I’m saying words like ‘American’ and ‘white’ work the same way. Bill Clinton was the ‘first black President’, but if Herman Cain had won in 2012 he’d have been the 43rd white president. And when an angry white person talks at great length about how much he hates ‘white dudes’, he is not being humble and self-critical.” (emphasis in original)

    The SNL vid is blue on red all the way. A lot of wishful thinking in these comments.

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    I think the video was justifying itself as blue on red, but the characters were idiomatic SWPL types (except the guy in the suit with the photo of the moon landing).
    , @Bill

    The SNL vid is blue on red all the way. A lot of wishful thinking in these comments.
     
    How 'bout "Yankee Doodle?" Pro or Anti American? It doesn't much matter what the SNL doofi thought they were doing when they made this skit.
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  31. Lurker says:
    @anon
    if you're not in the US, watch it here:

    http://sony847.tumblr.com/video/99218200838

    Btw, it's weird that the elite media support open borders and immigration , but they won't let an Australian watch their content.

    Yes, Australians are merely ‘undocumented viewers’ yearning to be free. Come on Google, give them a break.

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  32. Keith Vaz [AKA "Sheldon Adelson"] says:
    @Justin
    When the woman says "let's get at least 4 more [white] presidents" that's tacitly acknowledging something pretty important--that non-whites vote for someone of their own race regardless of the candidate's capabilities or experience. (at least as long as that person is viewed as race-loyal.) In contrast we have a majority white electorate right now, but a non-white president.

    It's not something that liberal whites would ever acknowledge explicitly, but this shows that they know it implicitly.

    This infuriates me. I work with third worlders and it’s so obvious they give jobs, votes and money to their own kins. My WORKING CLASS White friends seem to intuitively understand this. Yet stupid MIDDLE CLASS Whites are so naive and consider policies, universalist morality w/o the slightest awareness that those darkskins would have them forced into slavery if they ever took power.

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  33. “The pic of the moon landing clinches it.”

    Right. There are an infinite number of funny pictures of goofy white people you could choose for that spot. The Apollo 11 picture, however …

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    This is where I think you are wrong both in interepting the skit and in constantly using the moon landing as the epitome of white achievement. The moon landing for most people in my generation simply doesn't have much cachet. I'm not saying it wasn't a seminal achievement but it tends to get caught up in the general cynicism about cold war boondoggles and boomer tunnel vision nostalgia. If they were really try slip a jab in against multi-culturalism they would have said the Internet.
    , @candid_observer
    Yeah, there are some things that are just knockdown arguments, and just to mention them tips your hand as to what you're really saying.

    It reminds me of that episode of The Simpsons:

    Marge Simpson: Women are as smart as men. Why, a woman invented Liquid Paper.
    Homer Simpson: Well, you know what a man invented? Actual paper!
    Marge: Well a woman also invented the windshield wiper.
    Homer: Which goes great with another male invention: the car! [high-fives Bart]
    Marge: Ummm, I think a woman came up with nylon stockings. I mean, probably. We certainly use them.
    Homer: Let's see, men also have: rocket ships, suspension bridges, constitutional government, snowshoes, brass knuckles...
    Marge: [groan]
    Homer: ...pinball machines, the Renaissance...

    What's a poor Social Justice Warrior to say to that?
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  34. meh says:

    “are they SWPL anti-white or mocking SWPL anti-white?”

    They are SWPL anti-white intentionally; mocking SWPL anti-white only unintentionally.

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  35. Clarke says:

    Didn’t SNL have to be forced to hire nonwhites recently because not funny enough?

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    Mind you, this is one of those few places where the "You need to hire more black people" people are totally right.

    SNL mocks the events of the previous week.

    And if you don't HAVE a black woman to play Michelle Obama (or someone of another race who can pull it off. See Fred Armisen as Obama), then you can't mock Michelle Obama.

    Racial quotas are bad. Making sure that a comedy sketch show can cover all their bases is good.
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  36. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    This is the type of thing they need to be careful with. Smug, self-mocking young liberals could unwittingly produce a skit which, per se, could be viewed as white supremacist. I watch this video and I see a bunch of people who have their sh*t together and like to engage in activities that say, “Hey, we are so beyond baseline functional we like to subject ourselves to this kind of [SWPL] stuff.” Meanwhile, other than East Asians/Asian-Americans (who are also SWPL-ish), every other group has quite a ways to go before reaching baseline functional, even after being propped up by white people and white society.

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  37. Jay says:

    Frank Salter talking to some Swedish guy.

    http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/09/RIR-140919.php

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  38. @Desiderius
    From this link:

    http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/

    "My hunch – both the Red Tribe and the Blue Tribe, for whatever reason, identify 'America' with the Red Tribe. Ask people for typically 'American' things, and you end up with a very Red list of characteristics – guns, religion, barbecues, American football, NASCAR, cowboys, SUVs, unrestrained capitalism."

    "But I think the situation with “white” is much the same as the situation with “American” – it can either mean what it says, or be a code word for the Red Tribe." (emphasis added)

    "And I’m saying words like 'American' and 'white' work the same way. Bill Clinton was the 'first black President', but if Herman Cain had won in 2012 he’d have been the 43rd white president. And when an angry white person talks at great length about how much he hates 'white dudes', he is not being humble and self-critical." (emphasis in original)

    The SNL vid is blue on red all the way. A lot of wishful thinking in these comments.

    I think the video was justifying itself as blue on red, but the characters were idiomatic SWPL types (except the guy in the suit with the photo of the moon landing).

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  39. Borachio says:
    @Twinkie
    The hesitant handing over of the globe to the Mexican was a nice touch.

    I just received one of those e-mail alerts from the Center for Immigration Studies, which contained this about non-English speakers in the United States:

    Languages with more than a million speakers in 2013 were Spanish (38.4 million), Chinese (three million), Tagalog (1.6 million), Vietnamese (1.4 million), French (1.3 million), and Korean and Arabic (1.1million each). Tagalog is the national language of the Philippines.
     

    “The hesitant handing over of the globe to the Mexican was a nice touch.”

    But it should have been a ceramic globe. The white hands it to the Mexican, who promptly drops it on the floor, smashing it.

    Even better would be if the white gave the globe to a certain other minority that I won’t identify except to say that their ancestors were slaves. The minority smashes it deliberately and tries to eat it. :-)

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    But it should have been a ceramic globe. The white hands it to the Mexican, who promptly drops it on the floor, smashing it.

    Even better would be if the white gave the globe to a certain other minority that I won’t identify except to say that their ancestors were slaves. The minority smashes it deliberately and tries to eat it. :-)
     

    Blacks aren't going to inherit America, and certainly not the globe.
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  40. David says:

    It could be the result of a strictly personal obsession, but I thought the movie Burn After Reading was essentially a contemporary reflection on the ways and motives of American WASPs under the multiculturalist regime. A people with no direction or purpose but to be secure and to help others.

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  41. OsRazor says:

    I think the skit is pro-SWPL and anti-White (in the sense race realists understand the terms). It falls in the same vein as the White audience laughing and applauding the actor Jamie Fox saying how cool it was he got to kill a bunch of Whites in Django. Very self-important, self referential and cleverly ironic. The whole point of the skit is resignation to the inevitable and making the best of it (and doing so in a clever and ironic way, of course) which is the only sensible and mature approach anti-Whites say Whites should be behaving these days–sheep getting ready for the slaughter.

    A lot of people make the mistake in thinking SWPL types are somehow stupid or confused or don’t see race reality objectively–that’s absolutely not true. They see and understand, but they think it would be really in bad taste and create a lot more bad than good (the gas chambers are just around the corner) to do anything about it. Instead, they think it’s best to just move forward, to let people even smarter than them to handle the racial issues, let race-mixing take its course, and to make the best of it while we’re in this awkward stage of human evolution where different races are really very different.

    It’s nihilistic and a death cult to the core.

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  42. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Somehow the video made me feel bad for reasons that are unclear. Marking the end of the most significant group in human history? The fact that SWPL types are being used to represent the overall group, seeing as SWPL types represent degeneration? Hits too close to home for me to be funny.

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  43. Before I went to a top 20 business school in the South over a decade ago, I was under some weird belief that my fellow attendees would be right-of-center. What I found was that the majority were either 1) SWPL liberals or 2) apolitical (natural SWPLs). There were a handful of Leftists and a handful of conservatives but the vast majority were not what I expected.

    So, when the writers of this skit sat down to slam “whites”, they probably reached into their own limited experience and thought – the people who work all over Wall Street must be a bunch of crypto-Conservatives not realizing that SWPLs in most major metros are solid Blue votes. So, what was intended to be a Blue on Red attack came off weirdly as a Blue on Blue attack.

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  44. @Steve Sailer
    "The pic of the moon landing clinches it.”

    Right. There are an infinite number of funny pictures of goofy white people you could choose for that spot. The Apollo 11 picture, however ...

    This is where I think you are wrong both in interepting the skit and in constantly using the moon landing as the epitome of white achievement. The moon landing for most people in my generation simply doesn’t have much cachet. I’m not saying it wasn’t a seminal achievement but it tends to get caught up in the general cynicism about cold war boondoggles and boomer tunnel vision nostalgia. If they were really try slip a jab in against multi-culturalism they would have said the Internet.

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  45. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @FWIW
    White is the best brand in the history of the world. Better than Marlboros or Coke. And more enduring. I would give Coke and Marlboros 50 to 100 years, and white? White isn't going away anytime soon.

    There is a big difference between living in the US and running the US. Elites always run things. And if/when Mexican Americans get through Yale and Harvard Law (or vice versa), they will be as culturally white as the Bushes. And I have a hunch that they will marry white.

    Regardless. The SNL piece was great.

    Good point. It’s not like Hispanics are suddenly going to start dominating high skilled sectors of the US economy. You’re not going to see a flood of Hispanic surgeons or engineers. Whites and Asians will still dominate the technical fields like computer science, finance and medicine. I could see whites losing political power, however. Even though Hispanics aren’t as politically active as other races, their sheer numbers will tilt the country to the left.

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    "You’re not going to see a flood of Hispanic surgeons or engineers. Whites and Asians will still dominate the technical fields like computer science, finance and medicine."

    Sure, and that's how today's white elite sees it: no threat to them, no threat to their children (who they stupidly count on finding their own place among the white elite).
    Meanwhile the rest of the American people gets hollowed out.

    , @Twinkie

    Good point. It’s not like Hispanics are suddenly going to start dominating high skilled sectors of the US economy. You’re not going to see a flood of Hispanic surgeons or engineers. Whites and Asians will still dominate the technical fields like computer science, finance and medicine. I could see whites losing political power, however. Even though Hispanics aren’t as politically active as other races, their sheer numbers will tilt the country to the left.
     
    Don't forget that Roman elites thought it was clever and useful to bring in foreign foederati to help fight their rivals in the civil wars. That ended up rather badly for the Romans.

    I agree that whites and Asians will continue to dominate the essential fields (that is, essential to running a brittle, post-modern, hyper-technocratic civilization), but at some point numbers could become too much to overcome.

    On the other hand, remaining a mostly white country is no guarantee that the country won't turn very leftist. See Europe.
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  46. @Anonitron
    "It’s funny because it’s a little subversive underneath the SWPL tropes. The pic of the moon landing clinches it."

    I tend to think there's a lot of semi-normal-dudeishness behind the scenes at SNL (most east-coast comics tend to be nominally liberal but generally normal dude-ish white-ethnics often without college educations and exposure to tumblr style feelings-politics). Tina Fey was able to run the show there for years, after all, and 30 Rock is one of the most surreptitiously conservative shows ever on network television.

    Also whenever I see Sarah Silverman or see her mentioned I have to wonder what she really thinks of her Kibbutzim sister.

    SNL writers are not recruited from the comedy scene for the most part. They are mostly recruited from publications like the Harvard Lampoon and are generally very young. The retirement of Downey has been a disaster for that reason because it’s pretty clear there are no adults in the room. I think that Lorne Michaels insistence that the Weekend Update anchors also be writers in order to catch lighting in a bottle again like he did with Fey and Seth Meyers is exacerbating this because the product speaks for itself and the new Yost guy obviously can’t write.

    30 Rock was conservative in the way All in the Family and that Michael J Fox show from when he was a kid were conservative: their parody right-winger struck a cord and become sufficiently popular that they had to keep feeding them good lines. Also it seems pretty clear that Fey is a pretty misanthropic person at heart and misanthropy can lean conservstive at times.

    One more purely speculative item it seems Obama’s victory over Clinton definitely dredged up some resentment at blacks that Fey took out on the Tracy Jordan character.

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  47. @anon
    if you're not in the US, watch it here:

    http://sony847.tumblr.com/video/99218200838

    Btw, it's weird that the elite media support open borders and immigration , but they won't let an Australian watch their content.

    Thanks for the link to the video for us non-US residents.

    “Btw, it’s weird that the elite media support open borders and immigration , but they won’t let an Australian watch their content.”

    Yeah it’s funny how nations and borders are a thing of the past but protecting their revenue stream from selling foreign distribution rights is still real enough for them to care about.

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  48. The death of whites is horrible, but this humor skit is harmless and funny. SNL is awesome. When SNL caved to hiring more blacks due to PC pressure, I thought it was over. Way wrong. Their staff including their black staff is super anti-PC, and very funny. They poke fun at race issues in a way that this crowd should love.

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  49. Irony says:

    A very clever and fascinating piece of Gallows humor.

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  50. @Steve Sailer
    "The pic of the moon landing clinches it.”

    Right. There are an infinite number of funny pictures of goofy white people you could choose for that spot. The Apollo 11 picture, however ...

    Yeah, there are some things that are just knockdown arguments, and just to mention them tips your hand as to what you’re really saying.

    It reminds me of that episode of The Simpsons:

    Marge Simpson: Women are as smart as men. Why, a woman invented Liquid Paper.
    Homer Simpson: Well, you know what a man invented? Actual paper!
    Marge: Well a woman also invented the windshield wiper.
    Homer: Which goes great with another male invention: the car! [high-fives Bart]
    Marge: Ummm, I think a woman came up with nylon stockings. I mean, probably. We certainly use them.
    Homer: Let’s see, men also have: rocket ships, suspension bridges, constitutional government, snowshoes, brass knuckles…
    Marge: [groan]
    Homer: …pinball machines, the Renaissance…

    What’s a poor Social Justice Warrior to say to that?

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  51. Bill says:
    @Desiderius
    From this link:

    http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/

    "My hunch – both the Red Tribe and the Blue Tribe, for whatever reason, identify 'America' with the Red Tribe. Ask people for typically 'American' things, and you end up with a very Red list of characteristics – guns, religion, barbecues, American football, NASCAR, cowboys, SUVs, unrestrained capitalism."

    "But I think the situation with “white” is much the same as the situation with “American” – it can either mean what it says, or be a code word for the Red Tribe." (emphasis added)

    "And I’m saying words like 'American' and 'white' work the same way. Bill Clinton was the 'first black President', but if Herman Cain had won in 2012 he’d have been the 43rd white president. And when an angry white person talks at great length about how much he hates 'white dudes', he is not being humble and self-critical." (emphasis in original)

    The SNL vid is blue on red all the way. A lot of wishful thinking in these comments.

    The SNL vid is blue on red all the way. A lot of wishful thinking in these comments.

    How ’bout “Yankee Doodle?” Pro or Anti American? It doesn’t much matter what the SNL doofi thought they were doing when they made this skit.

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  52. Garland says:

    Putting Sarah Silverman in there makes no sense.

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    In SNL's opening, Sarah talks to her younger self, using old footage from when she had been a player on the show, and good lord, without the strategic eyebrow plucking, she looks like a fresh-off-the-boat ethnic jew. I was really amazed, since I knew of her by the time she got on Larry Saunders, and had changed her look towards "skinny white cheerleader" considerably.
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  53. e says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    It's funny because it's a little subversive underneath the SWPL tropes. The pic of the moon landing clinches it.

    Yes, the “pic of the moon landing” is “subversive,” a reminder that Hispanics aren’t going to be taking us into the next frontier (and that blacks never have), but it’s revealing that the picture is the only reminder of that. To have included more such reminders, even one, would have been racisssss. Can’t have that on SNL.

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  54. On some level, it probably stops making sense to try to divine what the writers were “really” trying to say, because they may even be the last people to understand what they did, in fact, say. Probably a lot of jumbly and contradictory thoughts go through their heads when they think about some of these issues, and they just try to produce something both funny and not-too-controversial. And of course different writers push in different directions. I’d guess that Sara Silverman had some hand in the skit, and she’s making a mark for herself by resisting The PC. (I don’t know why some people are aghast that Silverman might think of herself as white. If you haven’t learned the basic fact of life that, when engaged in cultural battles, Jews can be both the best of allies and the worst of enemies, what have you learned?)

    Probably this skit is at the utmost limit of what can be put on network TV raising questions about the wonderfulness of our transition to an America not dominated by whites. The writers obviously had to pull their punches somewhat, and make the whites look doofusey, otherwise it’s just too brutal to the incoming minorities.

    And I do think the scene in which power is handed off to a Mexican is pretty telling. It’s hard not to feel that the idea is that something is going haywire.

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  55. John says:
    @Garland
    Putting Sarah Silverman in there makes no sense.

    In SNL’s opening, Sarah talks to her younger self, using old footage from when she had been a player on the show, and good lord, without the strategic eyebrow plucking, she looks like a fresh-off-the-boat ethnic jew. I was really amazed, since I knew of her by the time she got on Larry Saunders, and had changed her look towards “skinny white cheerleader” considerably.

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  56. Bill M says:
    @OsRazor
    I think the skit is pro-SWPL and anti-White (in the sense race realists understand the terms). It falls in the same vein as the White audience laughing and applauding the actor Jamie Fox saying how cool it was he got to kill a bunch of Whites in Django. Very self-important, self referential and cleverly ironic. The whole point of the skit is resignation to the inevitable and making the best of it (and doing so in a clever and ironic way, of course) which is the only sensible and mature approach anti-Whites say Whites should be behaving these days--sheep getting ready for the slaughter.

    A lot of people make the mistake in thinking SWPL types are somehow stupid or confused or don't see race reality objectively--that's absolutely not true. They see and understand, but they think it would be really in bad taste and create a lot more bad than good (the gas chambers are just around the corner) to do anything about it. Instead, they think it's best to just move forward, to let people even smarter than them to handle the racial issues, let race-mixing take its course, and to make the best of it while we're in this awkward stage of human evolution where different races are really very different.

    It's nihilistic and a death cult to the core.

    Exactly. There’s a very subtle and insidious bit of psychological conditioning involved. It promotes a message of inevitabilism and psychologically conditions white viewers to a sense of resignation and passivity. You see this sort of thing increasnigly in the media and entertainment. Louis CK’s work is a good example.

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  57. “It doesn’t much matter what the SNL doofi thought they were doing when they made this skit.”

    Those doofi (sic, they’ve been tragically mal-educated, but their views are nonetheless characteristic of the best and brightest of their cohort) and their ilk run our country, with very little if any dissent from their worldview.

    As for who the target is -> Look at the picture that goes with the post – everyone is dressed like Bible salesmen/Michael Douglas in Falling Down.

    Nobody in the video (with the exception of St. Sarah of Silverman who gets to play herself) is quite in SWPL shape, and the clothes are all Walmartish enough to signal non-SWPLhood.

    It does nail current red tribe conceits pretty well (“we’re all good people”, moon landing = empty exceptionalism grounded in past glories) while leaving out any red strengths. But it is blue mocking red all the way (to date, pretty much all blue tribers have managed, far as I can tell).

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  58. Only the worst of the men who put us on the Moon considered himself “white“.

    We were Americans.

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  59. Lamb says:
    @Clarke
    Didn't SNL have to be forced to hire nonwhites recently because not funny enough?

    Mind you, this is one of those few places where the “You need to hire more black people” people are totally right.

    SNL mocks the events of the previous week.

    And if you don’t HAVE a black woman to play Michelle Obama (or someone of another race who can pull it off. See Fred Armisen as Obama), then you can’t mock Michelle Obama.

    Racial quotas are bad. Making sure that a comedy sketch show can cover all their bases is good.

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  60. @Anon
    Good point. It's not like Hispanics are suddenly going to start dominating high skilled sectors of the US economy. You're not going to see a flood of Hispanic surgeons or engineers. Whites and Asians will still dominate the technical fields like computer science, finance and medicine. I could see whites losing political power, however. Even though Hispanics aren't as politically active as other races, their sheer numbers will tilt the country to the left.

    “You’re not going to see a flood of Hispanic surgeons or engineers. Whites and Asians will still dominate the technical fields like computer science, finance and medicine.”

    Sure, and that’s how today’s white elite sees it: no threat to them, no threat to their children (who they stupidly count on finding their own place among the white elite).
    Meanwhile the rest of the American people gets hollowed out.

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  61. GW says:

    The skit was humorous enough since it had what all comedy requires–a bit of uncomfortable truth. I think we’re making a big mistake in trying to analyze it as a coherent piece of social criticism, however. Nothing more than the haphazard reflections of blue-state whites on the behavior of their white friends.

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  62. Jefferson says:

    “Wait, so is Sarah Silverman “white?”

    Sarah Silverman looks Whiter than George Zimmerman.

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  63. Jefferson says:

    “I remember when SNL was funny. it was in September 1976.”

    Was that the year when Chevy Chase called Richard Pryor the N word in a SNL skit ?

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  64. RonnyJeb says:

    The skit just seems like Jewish triumphalism to me.

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  65. Jefferson says:

    “There is a big difference between living in the US and running the US. Elites always run things. And if/when Mexican Americans get through Yale and Harvard Law (or vice versa), they will be as culturally white as the Bushes. And I have a hunch that they will marry white.”

    I see you are one of those people who believes Hispanics in the U.S are no different than Ellis Island immigrants.

    Sonia Sotomayor went to the prestigious school Princeton, did she turn culturally White ? I would say the opposite, she has quite a hatred for White people.

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  66. Jefferson says:

    ““Wait, so is Sarah Silverman “white?”

    Phenotype wise, Sarah Silverman would not look out of place in my family since I am Southern Italian and she has a Mediterranean appearance. Nicole Kidman would look stick out more in my family than Sarah Silverman would.

    Maybe she does not look White to you because you come from the typical Nordic WASP family.

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  67. Twinkie says:
    @D. K.
    How many of those 1.3 million residents primarily speaking French, in the United States, are Whites of ethnic-French descent, and how many are either Haitian(s) or Black-African immigrants from other former French colonies?

    How many of those 1.3 million residents primarily speaking French, in the United States, are Whites of ethnic-French descent, and how many are either Haitian(s) or Black-African immigrants from other former French colonies?

    I do not know.

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  68. Twinkie says:
    @Borachio
    "The hesitant handing over of the globe to the Mexican was a nice touch."

    But it should have been a ceramic globe. The white hands it to the Mexican, who promptly drops it on the floor, smashing it.

    Even better would be if the white gave the globe to a certain other minority that I won't identify except to say that their ancestors were slaves. The minority smashes it deliberately and tries to eat it. :-)

    But it should have been a ceramic globe. The white hands it to the Mexican, who promptly drops it on the floor, smashing it.

    Even better would be if the white gave the globe to a certain other minority that I won’t identify except to say that their ancestors were slaves. The minority smashes it deliberately and tries to eat it. :-)

    Blacks aren’t going to inherit America, and certainly not the globe.

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  69. Calogero says:

    David mentioned “a people with no direction or purpose.” He is sadly right about many of us. I believe that our true purpose is to create the technology to start to get off this rock and explore the galaxy. We might be the only group truly capable of this. Our purpose is far more important to history than trying to get a black Spider-Man or some such nonsense like that. I don’t believe that there is any intelligent life on other planets, so it is up to us to spread the lifeforms of Earth all across the universe. Hopefully we can also keep half of the species currently here with us from going extinct because of some backwards traditional Chinese “medical” voodoo and other short sightedness of non-whites. Things are currently stacked against us, but I believe that there is still some hope. As bad as things are now, the world would be in much worse shape without us. If “they” don’t recognize this, “we” all have to.

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  70. viking says:
    @FWIW
    White is the best brand in the history of the world. Better than Marlboros or Coke. And more enduring. I would give Coke and Marlboros 50 to 100 years, and white? White isn't going away anytime soon.

    There is a big difference between living in the US and running the US. Elites always run things. And if/when Mexican Americans get through Yale and Harvard Law (or vice versa), they will be as culturally white as the Bushes. And I have a hunch that they will marry white.

    Regardless. The SNL piece was great.

    whistling in the dark pal they hate us

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  71. I wonder what other races make of white people joking about their own disappearance from the world.

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  72. Twinkie says:
    @onetwothree
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure the SNL writers know the score. I mean, come on. Western civilization was made by white people, and the non-white countries have thrived entirely based on how well they've imitated that. (With the big exception being their ability to imitate Communism). So, going on hikes and hugging dad and a self-effacing goofiness and flying to the moon are literally what we're leaving behind. (America anyway.)

    I mean, come on. Western civilization was made by white people, and the non-white countries have thrived entirely based on how well they’ve imitated that.

    The first part of that sentence is obvious to anyone with a functioning brain, but the second part is not quite true.

    Successful civilization don’t appear whole like Athena out of Zeus’ head. They are frequently built upon another successful one or certainly incorporate superior aspects of the same. The Latins built theirs upon a Hellenic foundation, but theirs was not “entirely” based on the latter (and the same with the Germanics upon a Roman foundation).

    Similarly, one could argue that modern East Asian cultures are fairly successful (with perhaps a giant question mark about mainland China). They certainly adopted many aspects of the successful and hitherto dominant Western culture, but that does not mean their success was derived “entirely based on how well they’ve imitated” the West. After all, they did build flourishing, advanced, and powerful civilizations before “the Rise of the West.”

    And I write this as an unabashed lover of the Western Civilization.

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  73. They should have handed over the globe to Sarah Silverman.

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  74. Twinkie says:
    @Anon
    Good point. It's not like Hispanics are suddenly going to start dominating high skilled sectors of the US economy. You're not going to see a flood of Hispanic surgeons or engineers. Whites and Asians will still dominate the technical fields like computer science, finance and medicine. I could see whites losing political power, however. Even though Hispanics aren't as politically active as other races, their sheer numbers will tilt the country to the left.

    Good point. It’s not like Hispanics are suddenly going to start dominating high skilled sectors of the US economy. You’re not going to see a flood of Hispanic surgeons or engineers. Whites and Asians will still dominate the technical fields like computer science, finance and medicine. I could see whites losing political power, however. Even though Hispanics aren’t as politically active as other races, their sheer numbers will tilt the country to the left.

    Don’t forget that Roman elites thought it was clever and useful to bring in foreign foederati to help fight their rivals in the civil wars. That ended up rather badly for the Romans.

    I agree that whites and Asians will continue to dominate the essential fields (that is, essential to running a brittle, post-modern, hyper-technocratic civilization), but at some point numbers could become too much to overcome.

    On the other hand, remaining a mostly white country is no guarantee that the country won’t turn very leftist. See Europe.

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  76. Chris says:

    More than anything, it’s sending up the Madison Ave image-marketing machine, into which you insert any organization, product or identity group and get out a 30 to 60 second slab of sunny upbeat propaganda tailored for middle class viewers. It could be about left-handers. Using whites makes it edgier and, intentionally or not, points up their voicelessness and/or disorganization as a political unit.

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    "More than anything, it’s sending up the Madison Ave image-marketing machine, into which you insert any organization, product or identity group and get out a 30 to 60 second slab of sunny upbeat propaganda tailored for middle class viewers. It could be about left-handers. Using whites makes it edgier and, intentionally or not, points up their voicelessness and/or disorganization as a political unit."

    No, it uses the Madison Ave. form, but the white element is essential to the message of the skit. Left-handers aren't a self-immolating demographic suffering from lack of civilizational confidence.
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  77. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The moon landing was a great achievement but I’m not sure non-whites really care much about such things. In fact a lot of them are resentful of it.

    They turn up their noses and pretend these advances are just white people wasting their energy on foolishness…a moral stance that places tribal peoples as more ‘wise’ and grounded.

    Everyone loves their smart phone and global citizenship, but there is a blind spot in being able to acknowledge who makes these things possible.

    Two of the musical/moral icons of the black community for instance, and their take on the moon landing:

    Bob Marley:
    “..See them take off in their spaceship, go off on their ego trip, a million miles from reality, don’t care about you, don’t care about me”

    Marvin Gaye:
    “..Rockets, moonshots…spending all the the have not’s [money] money, we make it, before we see it you take it”

    There is a deep resentment of whites. You don’t see it in the media for the most part…to really understand it, you simply go to websites where people can post their true feelings anonymously. There is big time rage out there.

    There’s a fundamental divide in how people perceive the world and it’s only going to get worse as the power of whites declines.

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    See also Gil Scott-Heron's 1970 proto-rap, "Whitey on the Moon":

    A rat done bit my sister Nell
    With Whitey on the moon
    Her face and arms began to swell
    And Whitey's on the moon

    I can't pay no doctor bills
    But Whitey's on the moon
    Ten years from now I'll be paying still
    While Whitey's on the moon

    You know, the man just upped my rent last night
    Cause Whitey's on the moon
    No hot water, no toilets, no lights
    But Whitey's on the moon

    I wonder why he's uppin' me?
    Cause Whitey's on the moon?
    Well i was already given him fifty a week
    And now Whitey's on the moon

    Taxes takin' my whole damn check
    The junkies make me a nervous wreck
    The price of food is goin up
    And if all that crap wasn't enough
    A rat done bit my sister nell
    With Whitey on the moon

    Her face and arms began to swell
    And Whitey's on the moon

    With all that money i made last year
    For Whitey on the moon
    How come I ain't got no money here?
    Hmm, Whitey's on the moon

    You know I just about had my fill
    Of Whitey on the moon
    I think I'll send these doctor bills
    airmail special
    (To Whitey on the moon)
     
    , @Cloudbuster
    Whites: Invent the cell phone
    Blacks: Use it to spread rumors that magic foreigners are stealing their penises.
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  78. Corn says:

    I didn’t know whether to gnash my teeth or cry watching that video. But when that guy showed the picture of the moon landing, I wanted to cry. We’re throwing our culture away and the general population doesn’t give a f___ .

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  79. Jefferson says:

    “On the other hand, remaining a mostly white country is no guarantee that the country won’t turn very leftist. See Europe.”

    The good thing about 1st world Asian nations like Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan and South Korea is that their governments are not big fans of letting in massive number of Muslims. Too bad the same can not be said about Western European governments.

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  80. @Anonymous
    The moon landing was a great achievement but I'm not sure non-whites really care much about such things. In fact a lot of them are resentful of it.

    They turn up their noses and pretend these advances are just white people wasting their energy on foolishness...a moral stance that places tribal peoples as more 'wise' and grounded.

    Everyone loves their smart phone and global citizenship, but there is a blind spot in being able to acknowledge who makes these things possible.

    Two of the musical/moral icons of the black community for instance, and their take on the moon landing:

    Bob Marley:
    "..See them take off in their spaceship, go off on their ego trip, a million miles from reality, don't care about you, don't care about me"

    Marvin Gaye:
    "..Rockets, moonshots...spending all the the have not's [money] money, we make it, before we see it you take it"

    There is a deep resentment of whites. You don't see it in the media for the most part...to really understand it, you simply go to websites where people can post their true feelings anonymously. There is big time rage out there.

    There's a fundamental divide in how people perceive the world and it's only going to get worse as the power of whites declines.

    See also Gil Scott-Heron’s 1970 proto-rap, “Whitey on the Moon”:

    A rat done bit my sister Nell
    With Whitey on the moon
    Her face and arms began to swell
    And Whitey’s on the moon

    I can’t pay no doctor bills
    But Whitey’s on the moon
    Ten years from now I’ll be paying still
    While Whitey’s on the moon

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  81. bleach says:

    It’s pointless snark from Gen Xers too cool to think seriously about anything, but harboring a lot of unfocused anxiety at the clear downward trend of American society.

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    Let's hope white millenials will settle the score then. William Strauss would be so proud!
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  82. Enderby says:

    Whites! Sure we’re on top now, but because of the government’s insane policy of endless massive non-White immigration – THAT NOBODY VOTED FOR we are committing mass suicide. Yay!

    This is all part of the bait and switch of mass immigration. 20 years ago it would have been unthinkable to mention white dispossession on TV. Now it’s celebrated – oh so ironically.

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  83. Cloudbuster says: • Website

    I wonder if the SNL writers are cognizant of the fact that SNL itself cannot exist in a post-white world. It has always been very white humor, for white people. It’s clearly a little embarrassed about that, which is pathetic.

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    I wonder if the SNL writers are cognizant of the fact that SNL itself cannot exist in a post-white world
     
    Along with a host of other more-or-less SWPL interests. I was arguing online with some supposed atheists the other day. I'm sure they're sincere in their, er, beliefs but the tone of the comments and the story it related to made it clear that parading their anti-white status is the force that binds them together. Ironic since I've no doubt that most of them are white (plus some of our Eskimo pals no doubt)
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  84. Cloudbuster says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    The moon landing was a great achievement but I'm not sure non-whites really care much about such things. In fact a lot of them are resentful of it.

    They turn up their noses and pretend these advances are just white people wasting their energy on foolishness...a moral stance that places tribal peoples as more 'wise' and grounded.

    Everyone loves their smart phone and global citizenship, but there is a blind spot in being able to acknowledge who makes these things possible.

    Two of the musical/moral icons of the black community for instance, and their take on the moon landing:

    Bob Marley:
    "..See them take off in their spaceship, go off on their ego trip, a million miles from reality, don't care about you, don't care about me"

    Marvin Gaye:
    "..Rockets, moonshots...spending all the the have not's [money] money, we make it, before we see it you take it"

    There is a deep resentment of whites. You don't see it in the media for the most part...to really understand it, you simply go to websites where people can post their true feelings anonymously. There is big time rage out there.

    There's a fundamental divide in how people perceive the world and it's only going to get worse as the power of whites declines.

    Whites: Invent the cell phone
    Blacks: Use it to spread rumors that magic foreigners are stealing their penises.

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    Ah, but we *have* invented penis-stealing magic... it's called "World War T."
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  85. Cloudbuster says: • Website
    @Chris
    More than anything, it's sending up the Madison Ave image-marketing machine, into which you insert any organization, product or identity group and get out a 30 to 60 second slab of sunny upbeat propaganda tailored for middle class viewers. It could be about left-handers. Using whites makes it edgier and, intentionally or not, points up their voicelessness and/or disorganization as a political unit.

    “More than anything, it’s sending up the Madison Ave image-marketing machine, into which you insert any organization, product or identity group and get out a 30 to 60 second slab of sunny upbeat propaganda tailored for middle class viewers. It could be about left-handers. Using whites makes it edgier and, intentionally or not, points up their voicelessness and/or disorganization as a political unit.”

    No, it uses the Madison Ave. form, but the white element is essential to the message of the skit. Left-handers aren’t a self-immolating demographic suffering from lack of civilizational confidence.

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  86. S. Verdad says:
    @Twinkie
    The hesitant handing over of the globe to the Mexican was a nice touch.

    I just received one of those e-mail alerts from the Center for Immigration Studies, which contained this about non-English speakers in the United States:

    Languages with more than a million speakers in 2013 were Spanish (38.4 million), Chinese (three million), Tagalog (1.6 million), Vietnamese (1.4 million), French (1.3 million), and Korean and Arabic (1.1million each). Tagalog is the national language of the Philippines.
     

    The 2010 census estimates >2m who speak French at home. From Wikipedia’s “French-American”: About 11.8 million U.S. residents are of French or French Canadian descent, and about 2 million speak French at home.[4] An additional
    450,000 U.S. residents speak a French-based creole language

    Those numbers seem a bit off to me. I can count with two hands the total number of white French speakers I have encountered in over 15 yrs. with immigration.

    Speaking of ‘French’, Louis C.K. is clearly with it enough to know what time it is. The anti-white stuff, while unfortunate, appears merely obligatory. Or maybe that’s just wishful misinterpretation on my part. I will say that he is the funniest MF to come down the pike in a long time.

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    Those numbers seem a bit off to me. I can count with two hands the total number of white French speakers I have encountered in over 15 yrs. with immigration.
     
    Well, I know a couple of French immigrant families and there are more than two handfuls of French speakers among them. Back when I lived in upper New England at one point, I knew a decent number of French Canadians who moved there.
    , @D. K.
    My point, earlier, in posing my (rhetorical) question was that the seeming outlier-- the only European language, among those foreign languages with a million or more speakers in the United States-- is not really the outlier that it seems, at first blush, because, as I am quite sure, the overwhelming majority of those French speakers are not Whites of ethnic-French descent, but instead Blacks. I suspect that a majority of them, if not the overwhelming majority, would be either Haitians or Haitian Americans. The subsequent figures, from Wikipedia, might lead one to assume that the group of two million is a subset of the group of 11.8 million; I, however, would bet that they are two groups that barely intersect at all. I am sure that there are a lot of French Canadians in the United States who speak French; but, I suspect that they also are overwhelmingly bilingual-- whereas a lot of Haitian immigrants, as well as Black-African immigrants from former French colonies, speak only French fluently. In short, ethnic-French immigrants naturally assimilate in America, even if they enter as, and remain, fluent French speakers, while French-speaking Black immigrants, whether Haitian or African, do not naturally assimilate, and often remain predominantly French-speaking, just as most Latin American immigrants, now, remain predominantly Spanish-speaking.
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  87. WhatEvvs [AKA "Cookies"] says:

    Persons of 80%+ European ancestry will be ruling America well past 2050. 50M white Americans have a few drops of African ancestry and wouldn’t know it without genetic testing. Who cares?

    http://www.isteve.com/2002_how_white_are_blacks.htm

    The same will happen with yellow and brown people. They’ll get bleached. The ones who stay in their own communities won’t be part of the dominant caste.

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    Persons of 80%+ European ancestry will be ruling America well past 2050. 50M white Americans have a few drops of African ancestry and wouldn’t know it without genetic testing. Who cares?

    http://www.isteve.com/2002_how_white_are_blacks.htm

    The same will happen with yellow and brown people. They’ll get bleached. The ones who stay in their own communities won’t be part of the dominant caste.
     
    This was predicted over 15 years ago in the pages of The New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/1998/08/16/magazine/the-beige-and-the-black.html

    There is not going to be a nonwhite majority in the 21st century. Rather, there is going to be a mostly white mixed-race majority. The only way to stop this is to force all Hispanic and Asian-Americans from now on to marry within their officially defined groups. And that is not going to happen.

    Thus, the old duality between whites and nonwhites is finally breaking down. But don't cheer just yet. For what seems to be emerging in the United States is a new dichotomy between blacks and nonblacks. Increasingly, whites, Asians and Hispanics are creating a broad community from which black Americans may be excluded.
     
    , @dcite
    Many wouldn't know it even with genetic testing. After a certain point, distant ancestry seems not to have a genetic presence. I know someone who is about 6% black African, because I know the families and genealogy down 5-8 generations. When this person took a DNA test it came back 99% white and 1% American Indian(?). No black.
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  88. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Bill M
    It's subversive because there's a subtle bit of psychological conditioning involved. It promotes a message of inevitablism in order to psychologically condition whites to a sense of resignation and passivity. You see this sort of thing in stuff by Louis C.K. and other Jewish culture producers.

    Louis C.K. is only one-fourth Jewish by ancestry. He is not religiously or culturally Jewish.

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    According to the one droppers that proliferate here and white nat sites, that makes him Jewish. Thankfully, in the real world, they don't make the rules. Yet.
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  89. @International Jew
    "You’re not going to see a flood of Hispanic surgeons or engineers. Whites and Asians will still dominate the technical fields like computer science, finance and medicine."

    Sure, and that's how today's white elite sees it: no threat to them, no threat to their children (who they stupidly count on finding their own place among the white elite).
    Meanwhile the rest of the American people gets hollowed out.

    So true. Just like the white upper and middle classes turned their back on the working class in the 70′s the middle class is now getting their comeuppance. Makes me sick to my stomach, not the fact of how minorities are being treated but of how whites are treating other whites. It my opinion it makes black on black crime pale in comparison.

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  90. @bleach
    It's pointless snark from Gen Xers too cool to think seriously about anything, but harboring a lot of unfocused anxiety at the clear downward trend of American society.

    Let’s hope white millenials will settle the score then. William Strauss would be so proud!

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  91. Udolpho says: • Website

    Sarah Silverman doesn’t look Italian (which Jamie-Lynn Sigler could pull off), she looks like a cross between a Jew and that Jew’s first cousin. And she is devoutly shitlib–her tongue in cheek act is a very thin cover for the fact that she thinks it will be awesome when whites are a minority and some government council can guarantee her career as the most popular female comic alive. Not exactly the Jew you want to build your “they’re our greatest enemies but also greatest allies” nonsense defense around.

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    I don't know about that. I remember her saying she wouldn't tell jokes about blacks (she tells them about Asians) if blacks were in the audience, because she'd be afraid of them. I think she does know on which side her bagel is cream cheesed.
    , @dcite
    The moon landing? How about the internet and the cell phone. One of the most hilarious, and ironic, things you will ever experience are a bunch of blacks (or browns) going on about how evil whites are. I pointed out that they (white men specifically although Asians of both genders, and white women were involved too occasionally) invented the computers on which she was promoting her Afrocentric fantasies, and whites/Asuabs were responsible for inventing, improving, or maintaining, just about every other implement she would be using in the modern world. In fact, the whites were responsible for the black/brown population explosion due to making available clean running water and medical care. It is polite to ignore the fact that they are dependent on whites and not the other way around. Hand the world to them? For what? To turn it into a Mexican barrio or an African village? Which is already happening in certain suburbs all over the country. Are they insane?
    Yes, I think they are.
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  92. Twinkie says:
    @S. Verdad
    The 2010 census estimates >2m who speak French at home. From Wikipedia's "French-American": About 11.8 million U.S. residents are of French or French Canadian descent, and about 2 million speak French at home.[4] An additional
    450,000 U.S. residents speak a French-based creole language

    Those numbers seem a bit off to me. I can count with two hands the total number of white French speakers I have encountered in over 15 yrs. with immigration.

    Speaking of 'French', Louis C.K. is clearly with it enough to know what time it is. The anti-white stuff, while unfortunate, appears merely obligatory. Or maybe that's just wishful misinterpretation on my part. I will say that he is the funniest MF to come down the pike in a long time.

    Those numbers seem a bit off to me. I can count with two hands the total number of white French speakers I have encountered in over 15 yrs. with immigration.

    Well, I know a couple of French immigrant families and there are more than two handfuls of French speakers among them. Back when I lived in upper New England at one point, I knew a decent number of French Canadians who moved there.

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  93. Twinkie says:
    @WhatEvvs
    Persons of 80%+ European ancestry will be ruling America well past 2050. 50M white Americans have a few drops of African ancestry and wouldn't know it without genetic testing. Who cares?

    http://www.isteve.com/2002_how_white_are_blacks.htm

    The same will happen with yellow and brown people. They'll get bleached. The ones who stay in their own communities won't be part of the dominant caste.

    Persons of 80%+ European ancestry will be ruling America well past 2050. 50M white Americans have a few drops of African ancestry and wouldn’t know it without genetic testing. Who cares?

    http://www.isteve.com/2002_how_white_are_blacks.htm

    The same will happen with yellow and brown people. They’ll get bleached. The ones who stay in their own communities won’t be part of the dominant caste.

    This was predicted over 15 years ago in the pages of The New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/1998/08/16/magazine/the-beige-and-the-black.html

    There is not going to be a nonwhite majority in the 21st century. Rather, there is going to be a mostly white mixed-race majority. The only way to stop this is to force all Hispanic and Asian-Americans from now on to marry within their officially defined groups. And that is not going to happen.

    Thus, the old duality between whites and nonwhites is finally breaking down. But don’t cheer just yet. For what seems to be emerging in the United States is a new dichotomy between blacks and nonblacks. Increasingly, whites, Asians and Hispanics are creating a broad community from which black Americans may be excluded.

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    Hm, well, I think the 'non-black' majority will be white, i.e, as phenotypically white as whites are today. True, my prediction is based on the idea that phenotypic whites will wake up and restrict immigration in 2020 or so. That may not happen.
    , @WhatEvvs
    OK, I read the Lind link. He's saying we'll be beige. I don't think so. I think we'll stay white - with the proviso that the gene pool stays 80%+ white.

    It will still be endogamous with respect to blacks.
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  94. John Doe says:

    “You’re not going to see a flood of Hispanic surgeons or engineers. Whites and Asians will still dominate the technical fields like computer science, finance and medicine.”

    Do you actually work in health care? There are a lot of African doctors, nurses, and pharmacists. The Filipino nurses aren’t exactly superstars either. We’re not just importing incompetent foreigners to mow the lawn or hang drywall. We’re putting them in important positions to destroy our already crumbling health care system. Even if you have some superstar surgeon, an idiot nurse can easily kill someone after surgery with a basic medical error.

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  95. Rifleman says:

    Sonia Sotomayor went to the prestigious school Princeton, did she turn culturally White ? I would say the opposite, she has quite a hatred for White people.

    Some would say that mentality is a big part of White culture.

    She learned well, she fits in nicely.

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  96. Twinkie says:

    Do you actually work in health care? There are a lot of African doctors, nurses, and pharmacists. The Filipino nurses aren’t exactly superstars either. We’re not just importing incompetent foreigners to mow the lawn or hang drywall. We’re putting them in important positions to destroy our already crumbling health care system. Even if you have some superstar surgeon, an idiot nurse can easily kill someone after surgery with a basic medical error.

    I am well-acquainted with the healthcare system as I have several physicians in the family. The vast majority of physicians, especially specialists, are whites, East Asians or Indians (South Asians). There is hardly any Hispanic or black doctor, let alone African. They are rare even among primary care physicians and rarer still among specialists.

    Nurses are also overwhelmingly white. In fact, it’s now quite a common profession for earnest, hardworking, but not academically successful white women.

    However, I will add one caveat. In highly undesirable urban areas and rural “medically underserved areas” you will find a much greater proportions of foreign medical graduates (who still have go undergo residency training in the U.S. to practice).

    The reason we import foreign doctors is that we have an extreme shortage of physicians. Demand has grown immensely, yet, unfortunately medical training is not something that can be scaled up quickly. For that matter, becoming a physician has lost much of its luster for bright college students, as the profession is increasingly paid less and less while losing much of its practice autonomy (big groups and hospitals are the norm now instead of partnerships) and social prestige.

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    "I am well-acquainted with the healthcare system as I have several physicians in the family. The vast majority of physicians, especially specialists, are whites, East Asians or Indians (South Asians). There is hardly any Hispanic or black doctor, let alone African. They are rare even among primary care physicians and rarer still among specialists."

    I'm curious as to where you live because to say African doctors are rare in my area would be ridiculous. I live in a suburb of DC (not PG county). I would say it's the opposite of a highly undesirable area. Are Africans the majority of physicians? Absolutely not. But their role as what they call Hospitalists at hospitals can have a major impact on your care.

    There is also a large difference in outpatient care and inpatient care. If your physician visits are limited to a physical and getting some basic blood pressure medications from your primary care doctor, you can certainly stick to nothing but white and Asian physicians. If you are ever admitted into a hospital in any area near a major medical center on the east coast, your chance of never having an African physician, nurse, pharmacist, pharmacy tech, physician assistant, nurse practitioner, or nursing assistant involved in your care is basically zero. Now you may not care that who your pharmacy tech is but you probably should, they mix the drugs they inject into you. The African nurse sleeping through her night shift can easily give you the wrong drug or too much of a drug and kill you.
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  97. Lurker says:
    @Cloudbuster
    I wonder if the SNL writers are cognizant of the fact that SNL itself cannot exist in a post-white world. It has always been very white humor, for white people. It's clearly a little embarrassed about that, which is pathetic.

    I wonder if the SNL writers are cognizant of the fact that SNL itself cannot exist in a post-white world

    Along with a host of other more-or-less SWPL interests. I was arguing online with some supposed atheists the other day. I’m sure they’re sincere in their, er, beliefs but the tone of the comments and the story it related to made it clear that parading their anti-white status is the force that binds them together. Ironic since I’ve no doubt that most of them are white (plus some of our Eskimo pals no doubt)

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  98. D. K. says:
    @S. Verdad
    The 2010 census estimates >2m who speak French at home. From Wikipedia's "French-American": About 11.8 million U.S. residents are of French or French Canadian descent, and about 2 million speak French at home.[4] An additional
    450,000 U.S. residents speak a French-based creole language

    Those numbers seem a bit off to me. I can count with two hands the total number of white French speakers I have encountered in over 15 yrs. with immigration.

    Speaking of 'French', Louis C.K. is clearly with it enough to know what time it is. The anti-white stuff, while unfortunate, appears merely obligatory. Or maybe that's just wishful misinterpretation on my part. I will say that he is the funniest MF to come down the pike in a long time.

    My point, earlier, in posing my (rhetorical) question was that the seeming outlier– the only European language, among those foreign languages with a million or more speakers in the United States– is not really the outlier that it seems, at first blush, because, as I am quite sure, the overwhelming majority of those French speakers are not Whites of ethnic-French descent, but instead Blacks. I suspect that a majority of them, if not the overwhelming majority, would be either Haitians or Haitian Americans. The subsequent figures, from Wikipedia, might lead one to assume that the group of two million is a subset of the group of 11.8 million; I, however, would bet that they are two groups that barely intersect at all. I am sure that there are a lot of French Canadians in the United States who speak French; but, I suspect that they also are overwhelmingly bilingual– whereas a lot of Haitian immigrants, as well as Black-African immigrants from former French colonies, speak only French fluently. In short, ethnic-French immigrants naturally assimilate in America, even if they enter as, and remain, fluent French speakers, while French-speaking Black immigrants, whether Haitian or African, do not naturally assimilate, and often remain predominantly French-speaking, just as most Latin American immigrants, now, remain predominantly Spanish-speaking.

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    I've always seen a handful of French-speaking people around in big cities who are in America for career reasons -- international executives, cinematographers, etc. -- and they raise their kids to speak French because they expect to go back some day. The French really like speaking French.
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  99. @D. K.
    My point, earlier, in posing my (rhetorical) question was that the seeming outlier-- the only European language, among those foreign languages with a million or more speakers in the United States-- is not really the outlier that it seems, at first blush, because, as I am quite sure, the overwhelming majority of those French speakers are not Whites of ethnic-French descent, but instead Blacks. I suspect that a majority of them, if not the overwhelming majority, would be either Haitians or Haitian Americans. The subsequent figures, from Wikipedia, might lead one to assume that the group of two million is a subset of the group of 11.8 million; I, however, would bet that they are two groups that barely intersect at all. I am sure that there are a lot of French Canadians in the United States who speak French; but, I suspect that they also are overwhelmingly bilingual-- whereas a lot of Haitian immigrants, as well as Black-African immigrants from former French colonies, speak only French fluently. In short, ethnic-French immigrants naturally assimilate in America, even if they enter as, and remain, fluent French speakers, while French-speaking Black immigrants, whether Haitian or African, do not naturally assimilate, and often remain predominantly French-speaking, just as most Latin American immigrants, now, remain predominantly Spanish-speaking.

    I’ve always seen a handful of French-speaking people around in big cities who are in America for career reasons — international executives, cinematographers, etc. — and they raise their kids to speak French because they expect to go back some day. The French really like speaking French.

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    I've known a few. The kids never go back to France. They usually end up owning a terrific home in the South, and being bi. Cultural.

    Meanwhile, I read about a French couple who owned/owns a bakery in some picturesque part of New England. The govt was trying to deport them because their visas were overdue. No link, sorry.

    I'm serious. Perhaps what they should have done was employ Honduran illegals, then the govt would leave them alone.
    , @D. K.
    As well they should, Steve. French is easily the most beautiful language there is-- regardless of what one thinks of France, as a country, the French, as a people, or their common culture, otherwise! I had a year of French in college, after having four years of Spanish in high school (basically just because several of my older sisters had taken it); and, to this day, I regret that I did not take French throughout high school, instead of Spanish. (The reason that I only took one year of French in college is because I could not abide the nun who taught it, and I did not wish to repeat that experience, despite getting As, both semesters, as a freshman.)

    The very sound of Spanish's being spoken, now, leaves me practically nauseous-- and, I say that despite my actually having lived in the barrio, on a couple of occasions; having had Mexican-Americans in the family, to whom I was very close; having had Spanish-speaking friends, from grade school through graduate school, to whom I was very close; and, having an older brother who has spent about half his life, by now, as a parish priest in El Salvador, where he holds dual citizenship! (The same thing happened to me with respect to Russian, in the past decade, because of all the ex-Soviets now colonizing Brooklyn-- and I have never even lived in Brooklyn; I merely have spent a fair amount of time there socializing!)

    It is the ongoing colonization of my native land by foreigners, in general, and Hispanics, in particular, that has made me the "xenophobe" that I am today-- not my supposedly "racist" upbringing, and not my supposed ignorance of what those various peoples and their respective cultures are really like.

    Anyway, the type of French people that you mention are not really immigrants; they are more akin to exchange students. Regardless, I am sure that they are all quite assiduous in learning English, while they are living here, and that they raise all of their children bilingually-- not in French ghettos!
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  100. Gilbert P says:

    Anon: “You’re not going to see a flood of Hispanic surgeons or engineers. Whites and Asians will still dominate the technical fields like computer science, finance and medicine.”

    Well, that’s all right then. It’s not like there are many Asians.

    I’ve recently spent too much time in a hospitals in a country whiter than than the US. The stethoscope is the new chunky gold chain for South and East Asians.

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  101. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    I am well-acquainted with the healthcare system as I have several physicians in the family. The vast majority of physicians, especially specialists, are whites, East Asians or Indians (South Asians). There is hardly any Hispanic or black doctor, let alone African. They are rare even among primary care physicians and rarer still among specialists.

    I don’t know where you are, but I’m here in Boston. I can tell you that quite a few, if not a lot, of the top doctors/specialists/professors in the medical field are Hispanic/Latin American. And at this level it is not for reasons of diversity.

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    I don’t know where you are, but I’m here in Boston. I can tell you that quite a few, if not a lot, of the top doctors/specialists/professors in the medical field are Hispanic/Latin American. And at this level it is not for reasons of diversity.
     
    Please do elaborate "quite a few."

    Boston has a very high concentration of hospitals and medical schools. The absolute number of physicians is exceedingly high in the area.

    Looking at the per capita basis, Hispanics are roughly 7.5% of medical school graduates in this country (Asians about 21%). The vast majority of foreign medical graduates who practice in the United States are from South Asia or from East Asia with fewer still from England/Canada. Hispanic FMGs are extremely rare though not non-existent.
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  102. WhatEvvs [AKA "Cookies"] says:
    @Twinkie

    Persons of 80%+ European ancestry will be ruling America well past 2050. 50M white Americans have a few drops of African ancestry and wouldn’t know it without genetic testing. Who cares?

    http://www.isteve.com/2002_how_white_are_blacks.htm

    The same will happen with yellow and brown people. They’ll get bleached. The ones who stay in their own communities won’t be part of the dominant caste.
     
    This was predicted over 15 years ago in the pages of The New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/1998/08/16/magazine/the-beige-and-the-black.html

    There is not going to be a nonwhite majority in the 21st century. Rather, there is going to be a mostly white mixed-race majority. The only way to stop this is to force all Hispanic and Asian-Americans from now on to marry within their officially defined groups. And that is not going to happen.

    Thus, the old duality between whites and nonwhites is finally breaking down. But don't cheer just yet. For what seems to be emerging in the United States is a new dichotomy between blacks and nonblacks. Increasingly, whites, Asians and Hispanics are creating a broad community from which black Americans may be excluded.
     

    Hm, well, I think the ‘non-black’ majority will be white, i.e, as phenotypically white as whites are today. True, my prediction is based on the idea that phenotypic whites will wake up and restrict immigration in 2020 or so. That may not happen.

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  103. WhatEvvs [AKA "Cookies"] says:
    @Anonymous
    Louis C.K. is only one-fourth Jewish by ancestry. He is not religiously or culturally Jewish.

    According to the one droppers that proliferate here and white nat sites, that makes him Jewish. Thankfully, in the real world, they don’t make the rules. Yet.

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  104. WhatEvvs [AKA "Cookies"] says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I've always seen a handful of French-speaking people around in big cities who are in America for career reasons -- international executives, cinematographers, etc. -- and they raise their kids to speak French because they expect to go back some day. The French really like speaking French.

    I’ve known a few. The kids never go back to France. They usually end up owning a terrific home in the South, and being bi. Cultural.

    Meanwhile, I read about a French couple who owned/owns a bakery in some picturesque part of New England. The govt was trying to deport them because their visas were overdue. No link, sorry.

    I’m serious. Perhaps what they should have done was employ Honduran illegals, then the govt would leave them alone.

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    I had to look this up. The government persecuted a Frenchwoman over visa compliance:

    http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/011288.html

    The bakery is still in business, things were smoothed out, but still, stuff like this makes me more and more tempted to use a stupid sounding coinage like "gumt" to describe our government. This kind of crap is what a gumt does, not a government.

    Now, they must be sure to provide sweets for SS marriages.
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  105. Mr. Anon says:

    “Desiderius says:

    Only the worst of the men who put us on the Moon considered himself “white“.

    We were Americans.”

    American meant white. The two were synonymous at that time. Anyway, regardless of what they thought they were, the men who actually put humans on the Moon were indeed white, not black, not latino. Do you imagine that blacks or latinos could have accomplished such a feat? Do you imagine that they ever would have aspired to it?

    By the way, if you seriously offer up “whiteness studies” sites as references, then you are a deluded nitwit, with nothing to offer. Shove off, idiot.

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  106. WhatEvvs [AKA "Cookies"] says:
    @Twinkie

    Persons of 80%+ European ancestry will be ruling America well past 2050. 50M white Americans have a few drops of African ancestry and wouldn’t know it without genetic testing. Who cares?

    http://www.isteve.com/2002_how_white_are_blacks.htm

    The same will happen with yellow and brown people. They’ll get bleached. The ones who stay in their own communities won’t be part of the dominant caste.
     
    This was predicted over 15 years ago in the pages of The New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/1998/08/16/magazine/the-beige-and-the-black.html

    There is not going to be a nonwhite majority in the 21st century. Rather, there is going to be a mostly white mixed-race majority. The only way to stop this is to force all Hispanic and Asian-Americans from now on to marry within their officially defined groups. And that is not going to happen.

    Thus, the old duality between whites and nonwhites is finally breaking down. But don't cheer just yet. For what seems to be emerging in the United States is a new dichotomy between blacks and nonblacks. Increasingly, whites, Asians and Hispanics are creating a broad community from which black Americans may be excluded.
     

    OK, I read the Lind link. He’s saying we’ll be beige. I don’t think so. I think we’ll stay white – with the proviso that the gene pool stays 80%+ white.

    It will still be endogamous with respect to blacks.

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  107. WhatEvvs [AKA "Cookies"] says:
    @WhatEvvs
    I've known a few. The kids never go back to France. They usually end up owning a terrific home in the South, and being bi. Cultural.

    Meanwhile, I read about a French couple who owned/owns a bakery in some picturesque part of New England. The govt was trying to deport them because their visas were overdue. No link, sorry.

    I'm serious. Perhaps what they should have done was employ Honduran illegals, then the govt would leave them alone.

    I had to look this up. The government persecuted a Frenchwoman over visa compliance:

    http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/011288.html

    The bakery is still in business, things were smoothed out, but still, stuff like this makes me more and more tempted to use a stupid sounding coinage like “gumt” to describe our government. This kind of crap is what a gumt does, not a government.

    Now, they must be sure to provide sweets for SS marriages.

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  108. iSteveFan says:

    Whites! Sure we’re on top now, but because of the government’s insane policy of endless massive non-White immigration – THAT NOBODY VOTED FOR we are committing mass suicide. Yay!

    This is all part of the bait and switch of mass immigration. 20 years ago it would have been unthinkable to mention white dispossession on TV. Now it’s celebrated – oh so ironically.

    Good point. White minority status is viewed as inevitable and unstoppable. Yet it has only come about through the largest migration of people across a national border in history. In other words it was any thing but inevitable and unstoppable, and totally preventable. It was in point of fact deliberate.

    We’ve taken in about fifty million immigrants since 1965, so that averages out to about a million per year over fifty years! Additionally, there is no letup in sight. In fact some, like McCain, are calling for 30 million more over the next decade!

    What amazes me is not just that the whites are going to become a minority, but that it will have taken 85 years (1965-2040) of unprecedented, unrelenting mass immigration, without barely a peep of resistance from whites for this to have occurred. Dang, how large was the white population to begin with that it would require 85 years of mass immigration to get it down to 49%?

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  109. M_Young says:

    “It’s funny because it’s a little subversive underneath the SWPL tropes. The pic of the moon landing clinches it.”

    Indeed, one wonders if there isn’t a closeted reader of “Paul Kersey” among the SNL* writers.

    *I hate hate hate the longstanding trend to the making everything into an abbreviation. It was wrong when KFC did it, it is wrong when Saturday Night Live does it.

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  110. Twinkie says:
    @Anonymous

    I am well-acquainted with the healthcare system as I have several physicians in the family. The vast majority of physicians, especially specialists, are whites, East Asians or Indians (South Asians). There is hardly any Hispanic or black doctor, let alone African. They are rare even among primary care physicians and rarer still among specialists.
     
    I don't know where you are, but I'm here in Boston. I can tell you that quite a few, if not a lot, of the top doctors/specialists/professors in the medical field are Hispanic/Latin American. And at this level it is not for reasons of diversity.

    I don’t know where you are, but I’m here in Boston. I can tell you that quite a few, if not a lot, of the top doctors/specialists/professors in the medical field are Hispanic/Latin American. And at this level it is not for reasons of diversity.

    Please do elaborate “quite a few.”

    Boston has a very high concentration of hospitals and medical schools. The absolute number of physicians is exceedingly high in the area.

    Looking at the per capita basis, Hispanics are roughly 7.5% of medical school graduates in this country (Asians about 21%). The vast majority of foreign medical graduates who practice in the United States are from South Asia or from East Asia with fewer still from England/Canada. Hispanic FMGs are extremely rare though not non-existent.

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  111. D. K. says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I've always seen a handful of French-speaking people around in big cities who are in America for career reasons -- international executives, cinematographers, etc. -- and they raise their kids to speak French because they expect to go back some day. The French really like speaking French.

    As well they should, Steve. French is easily the most beautiful language there is– regardless of what one thinks of France, as a country, the French, as a people, or their common culture, otherwise! I had a year of French in college, after having four years of Spanish in high school (basically just because several of my older sisters had taken it); and, to this day, I regret that I did not take French throughout high school, instead of Spanish. (The reason that I only took one year of French in college is because I could not abide the nun who taught it, and I did not wish to repeat that experience, despite getting As, both semesters, as a freshman.)

    The very sound of Spanish’s being spoken, now, leaves me practically nauseous– and, I say that despite my actually having lived in the barrio, on a couple of occasions; having had Mexican-Americans in the family, to whom I was very close; having had Spanish-speaking friends, from grade school through graduate school, to whom I was very close; and, having an older brother who has spent about half his life, by now, as a parish priest in El Salvador, where he holds dual citizenship! (The same thing happened to me with respect to Russian, in the past decade, because of all the ex-Soviets now colonizing Brooklyn– and I have never even lived in Brooklyn; I merely have spent a fair amount of time there socializing!)

    It is the ongoing colonization of my native land by foreigners, in general, and Hispanics, in particular, that has made me the “xenophobe” that I am today– not my supposedly “racist” upbringing, and not my supposed ignorance of what those various peoples and their respective cultures are really like.

    Anyway, the type of French people that you mention are not really immigrants; they are more akin to exchange students. Regardless, I am sure that they are all quite assiduous in learning English, while they are living here, and that they raise all of their children bilingually– not in French ghettos!

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    As well they should, Steve. French is easily the most beautiful language there is
     
    I prefer Portuguese for the crown of "the most beautiful language." It's like Spanish with a French accent. Easy to learn, melodious, and soft with little of that nasal sound I find grating in French. Especially when spoken by women.

    Funny enough when the French actor Vincent Cassel speaks his native French, I just want to strangulate him to shut him up, but when he speaks Portuguese he sounds borderline cool.
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  112. Jefferson says:

    “Some would say that mentality is a big part of White culture.

    She learned well, she fits in nicely.”

    Using your logic, the majority of Nonwhites in this country fit in nicely since you define hatred of Whitey as a big part of White culture.

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  113. Jefferson says:

    “Sarah Silverman doesn’t look Italian”

    Sarah Silverman can easily pass for Italian phenotype wise. Most Italians don’t look like Aryan poster people like Nicole Kidman and Chris Hemsworth.

    Plus I have seen Italians that look even more “Ethnic” than Sarah Silverman.

    This guy for example is Italian. He does not exactly look like a WASP from Iowa.

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  114. I’m a nurse at one of the largest hospitals in Central Texas. There are very few African doctors; quite a few African nurses; and many, many Indian and Asian doctors. With regard to physicians, I’d say the breakdown is roughly 70% white/20% indian-oriental/5-10% other (mainly whitish doctors from South America).

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    With regard to physicians, I’d say the breakdown is roughly 70% white/20% indian-oriental/5-10% other (mainly whitish doctors from South America).
     
    Sounds about right on average. Around where I live, the number is around 60% white, 35% Asian, and 5% rest. And that 5% rest is pretty white-ish (whether white Hispanics or very pale blacks or Middle Eastern).

    What type of a nurse are you?
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  115. Jefferson says:

    “OK, I read the Lind link. He’s saying we’ll be beige. I don’t think so. I think we’ll stay white – with the proviso that the gene pool stays 80%+ white.”

    You really think someone who is genetically 80 percent White and 20 percent Nonwhite is going to look indistinguishable in phenotype from a Nordic WASP from flyover country who has zero percent Nonwhite ancestry ?

    This actor for example tested 91 percent European ancestry when he took a DNA test and he still looks too ethnic to pass for a Nordic WASP. He can pass for a Southern Euro or a MENA, but not a WASP.

    So can you imagine how even more different someone with only 80 percent European ancestry will look from Nordic WASPs.

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    You really think someone who is genetically 80 percent White and 20 percent Nonwhite is going to look indistinguishable in phenotype from a Nordic WASP from flyover country who has zero percent Nonwhite ancestry ?
     
    That depends on the component of the non-white ancestry.

    My kids are half-white (mostly German-Swedish-English) and half northeast Asian, and they blend in pretty well with white kids in the upper Midwest. If they married Nordic whites, their children, my grandchildren, probably would look almost indistinguishable from their mother.

    Don't forget that Finns are about 85-95% Paleo-hunter-gatherers and 5-15% Siberian. They look pretty darn Nordic (and wide faced). For that matter, some Nordics have seemingly Asian-looking features (Google Bjork, the Icelandic singer, she's mostly Icelandic with a bit of Irish ancestry, and she looks FAR more Asian than my children).

    The same goes for somebody who is 80% Nordic white and 20% pale Hispanic.

    The ones who will not look Nordic would be someone who is 20% close-to-pure African or heavily Indio. Or someone whose 80% white component is mostly Mediterranean rather than Nordic.

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  116. iSteveFan says:

    Most Italians don’t look like Aryan poster people like Nicole Kidman and Chris Hemsworth.

    Is that really true, or just a stereotype of what Americans think of Italians because of the immigrants we received from Italy?

    Lombardy is the most populous region of Italy. Veneto, Emilia-Romagna, and Piedmont are also in the top 7 most populous regions of Italy. I am not saying a majority of Italians are aryans, but a significant chunk of her population is made up of Northern Italians.

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  117. dcite says:
    @WhatEvvs
    Persons of 80%+ European ancestry will be ruling America well past 2050. 50M white Americans have a few drops of African ancestry and wouldn't know it without genetic testing. Who cares?

    http://www.isteve.com/2002_how_white_are_blacks.htm

    The same will happen with yellow and brown people. They'll get bleached. The ones who stay in their own communities won't be part of the dominant caste.

    Many wouldn’t know it even with genetic testing. After a certain point, distant ancestry seems not to have a genetic presence. I know someone who is about 6% black African, because I know the families and genealogy down 5-8 generations. When this person took a DNA test it came back 99% white and 1% American Indian(?). No black.

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    That's interesting. Those genetic tests are kind of dicey, I've read. They are not 100% reliable.

    Onto one droppers....This man is one drop black - one in 64 (I think - maybe one in 128). He was a confederate colonel.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/31/Colonel_H.L._Grinstead.jpg/220px-Colonel_H.L._Grinstead.jpg

    Virtually all US Grinsteads trace back to Elizabeth Key and William Grinstead. She was mulatto and he was an English indentured servant. That colony had a lot of interracial marriage. They had many descendants, all white(ned). Johnny Depp is a Grinstead.

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  118. dcite says:
    @Udolpho
    Sarah Silverman doesn't look Italian (which Jamie-Lynn Sigler could pull off), she looks like a cross between a Jew and that Jew's first cousin. And she is devoutly shitlib--her tongue in cheek act is a very thin cover for the fact that she thinks it will be awesome when whites are a minority and some government council can guarantee her career as the most popular female comic alive. Not exactly the Jew you want to build your "they're our greatest enemies but also greatest allies" nonsense defense around.

    I don’t know about that. I remember her saying she wouldn’t tell jokes about blacks (she tells them about Asians) if blacks were in the audience, because she’d be afraid of them. I think she does know on which side her bagel is cream cheesed.

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  119. dcite says:
    @Udolpho
    Sarah Silverman doesn't look Italian (which Jamie-Lynn Sigler could pull off), she looks like a cross between a Jew and that Jew's first cousin. And she is devoutly shitlib--her tongue in cheek act is a very thin cover for the fact that she thinks it will be awesome when whites are a minority and some government council can guarantee her career as the most popular female comic alive. Not exactly the Jew you want to build your "they're our greatest enemies but also greatest allies" nonsense defense around.

    The moon landing? How about the internet and the cell phone. One of the most hilarious, and ironic, things you will ever experience are a bunch of blacks (or browns) going on about how evil whites are. I pointed out that they (white men specifically although Asians of both genders, and white women were involved too occasionally) invented the computers on which she was promoting her Afrocentric fantasies, and whites/Asuabs were responsible for inventing, improving, or maintaining, just about every other implement she would be using in the modern world. In fact, the whites were responsible for the black/brown population explosion due to making available clean running water and medical care. It is polite to ignore the fact that they are dependent on whites and not the other way around. Hand the world to them? For what? To turn it into a Mexican barrio or an African village? Which is already happening in certain suburbs all over the country. Are they insane?
    Yes, I think they are.

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  120. Twinkie says:
    @D. K.
    As well they should, Steve. French is easily the most beautiful language there is-- regardless of what one thinks of France, as a country, the French, as a people, or their common culture, otherwise! I had a year of French in college, after having four years of Spanish in high school (basically just because several of my older sisters had taken it); and, to this day, I regret that I did not take French throughout high school, instead of Spanish. (The reason that I only took one year of French in college is because I could not abide the nun who taught it, and I did not wish to repeat that experience, despite getting As, both semesters, as a freshman.)

    The very sound of Spanish's being spoken, now, leaves me practically nauseous-- and, I say that despite my actually having lived in the barrio, on a couple of occasions; having had Mexican-Americans in the family, to whom I was very close; having had Spanish-speaking friends, from grade school through graduate school, to whom I was very close; and, having an older brother who has spent about half his life, by now, as a parish priest in El Salvador, where he holds dual citizenship! (The same thing happened to me with respect to Russian, in the past decade, because of all the ex-Soviets now colonizing Brooklyn-- and I have never even lived in Brooklyn; I merely have spent a fair amount of time there socializing!)

    It is the ongoing colonization of my native land by foreigners, in general, and Hispanics, in particular, that has made me the "xenophobe" that I am today-- not my supposedly "racist" upbringing, and not my supposed ignorance of what those various peoples and their respective cultures are really like.

    Anyway, the type of French people that you mention are not really immigrants; they are more akin to exchange students. Regardless, I am sure that they are all quite assiduous in learning English, while they are living here, and that they raise all of their children bilingually-- not in French ghettos!

    As well they should, Steve. French is easily the most beautiful language there is

    I prefer Portuguese for the crown of “the most beautiful language.” It’s like Spanish with a French accent. Easy to learn, melodious, and soft with little of that nasal sound I find grating in French. Especially when spoken by women.

    Funny enough when the French actor Vincent Cassel speaks his native French, I just want to strangulate him to shut him up, but when he speaks Portuguese he sounds borderline cool.

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  121. Twinkie says:
    @Voltaire's Spinning Corpse
    I'm a nurse at one of the largest hospitals in Central Texas. There are very few African doctors; quite a few African nurses; and many, many Indian and Asian doctors. With regard to physicians, I'd say the breakdown is roughly 70% white/20% indian-oriental/5-10% other (mainly whitish doctors from South America).

    With regard to physicians, I’d say the breakdown is roughly 70% white/20% indian-oriental/5-10% other (mainly whitish doctors from South America).

    Sounds about right on average. Around where I live, the number is around 60% white, 35% Asian, and 5% rest. And that 5% rest is pretty white-ish (whether white Hispanics or very pale blacks or Middle Eastern).

    What type of a nurse are you?

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    Sounds about right on average. Around where I live, the number is around 60% white, 35% Asian, and 5% rest. And that 5% rest is pretty white-ish (whether white Hispanics or very pale blacks or Middle Eastern).

    What type of a nurse are you?
     
    ICU. I didn't really include arabs in my summary but there are a number of arabs as well. Maybe 2-3%.
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  122. Twinkie says:
    @Jefferson
    "OK, I read the Lind link. He’s saying we’ll be beige. I don’t think so. I think we’ll stay white – with the proviso that the gene pool stays 80%+ white."

    You really think someone who is genetically 80 percent White and 20 percent Nonwhite is going to look indistinguishable in phenotype from a Nordic WASP from flyover country who has zero percent Nonwhite ancestry ?

    This actor for example tested 91 percent European ancestry when he took a DNA test and he still looks too ethnic to pass for a Nordic WASP. He can pass for a Southern Euro or a MENA, but not a WASP.
    http://cdn.sheknows.com/filter/l/gallery/adrian_grenier_global_green_usa_red_carpet_2008.jpg

    So can you imagine how even more different someone with only 80 percent European ancestry will look from Nordic WASPs.

    You really think someone who is genetically 80 percent White and 20 percent Nonwhite is going to look indistinguishable in phenotype from a Nordic WASP from flyover country who has zero percent Nonwhite ancestry ?

    That depends on the component of the non-white ancestry.

    My kids are half-white (mostly German-Swedish-English) and half northeast Asian, and they blend in pretty well with white kids in the upper Midwest. If they married Nordic whites, their children, my grandchildren, probably would look almost indistinguishable from their mother.

    Don’t forget that Finns are about 85-95% Paleo-hunter-gatherers and 5-15% Siberian. They look pretty darn Nordic (and wide faced). For that matter, some Nordics have seemingly Asian-looking features (Google Bjork, the Icelandic singer, she’s mostly Icelandic with a bit of Irish ancestry, and she looks FAR more Asian than my children).

    The same goes for somebody who is 80% Nordic white and 20% pale Hispanic.

    The ones who will not look Nordic would be someone who is 20% close-to-pure African or heavily Indio. Or someone whose 80% white component is mostly Mediterranean rather than Nordic.

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  123. John Doe says:
    @Twinkie

    Do you actually work in health care? There are a lot of African doctors, nurses, and pharmacists. The Filipino nurses aren’t exactly superstars either. We’re not just importing incompetent foreigners to mow the lawn or hang drywall. We’re putting them in important positions to destroy our already crumbling health care system. Even if you have some superstar surgeon, an idiot nurse can easily kill someone after surgery with a basic medical error.
     
    I am well-acquainted with the healthcare system as I have several physicians in the family. The vast majority of physicians, especially specialists, are whites, East Asians or Indians (South Asians). There is hardly any Hispanic or black doctor, let alone African. They are rare even among primary care physicians and rarer still among specialists.

    Nurses are also overwhelmingly white. In fact, it's now quite a common profession for earnest, hardworking, but not academically successful white women.

    However, I will add one caveat. In highly undesirable urban areas and rural "medically underserved areas" you will find a much greater proportions of foreign medical graduates (who still have go undergo residency training in the U.S. to practice).

    The reason we import foreign doctors is that we have an extreme shortage of physicians. Demand has grown immensely, yet, unfortunately medical training is not something that can be scaled up quickly. For that matter, becoming a physician has lost much of its luster for bright college students, as the profession is increasingly paid less and less while losing much of its practice autonomy (big groups and hospitals are the norm now instead of partnerships) and social prestige.

    “I am well-acquainted with the healthcare system as I have several physicians in the family. The vast majority of physicians, especially specialists, are whites, East Asians or Indians (South Asians). There is hardly any Hispanic or black doctor, let alone African. They are rare even among primary care physicians and rarer still among specialists.”

    I’m curious as to where you live because to say African doctors are rare in my area would be ridiculous. I live in a suburb of DC (not PG county). I would say it’s the opposite of a highly undesirable area. Are Africans the majority of physicians? Absolutely not. But their role as what they call Hospitalists at hospitals can have a major impact on your care.

    There is also a large difference in outpatient care and inpatient care. If your physician visits are limited to a physical and getting some basic blood pressure medications from your primary care doctor, you can certainly stick to nothing but white and Asian physicians. If you are ever admitted into a hospital in any area near a major medical center on the east coast, your chance of never having an African physician, nurse, pharmacist, pharmacy tech, physician assistant, nurse practitioner, or nursing assistant involved in your care is basically zero. Now you may not care that who your pharmacy tech is but you probably should, they mix the drugs they inject into you. The African nurse sleeping through her night shift can easily give you the wrong drug or too much of a drug and kill you.

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    I’m curious as to where you live because to say African doctors are rare in my area would be ridiculous. I live in a suburb of DC (not PG county).
     
    I live in the South. Let's leave it at that.

    DC suburb could be Maryland or NoVA. Which is yours?

    an African physician, nurse, pharmacist, pharmacy tech, physician assistant, nurse practitioner, or nursing assistant
     
    That's a rather expansive list of medical professions. Of course there's bound to be a few. But unless you are a race realist, just how few they are is pretty shocking.

    Still very rare in my neck of the woods. I do know an African (actually from Africa) nurse anesthetist. Good guy. Earnest and, from what I hear, skilled. Married to a white nurse. Also fairly conservative from a few conversations I've had. His kids aren't growing up "black."
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  124. @Cloudbuster
    Whites: Invent the cell phone
    Blacks: Use it to spread rumors that magic foreigners are stealing their penises.

    Ah, but we *have* invented penis-stealing magic… it’s called “World War T.”

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  125. @Twinkie

    With regard to physicians, I’d say the breakdown is roughly 70% white/20% indian-oriental/5-10% other (mainly whitish doctors from South America).
     
    Sounds about right on average. Around where I live, the number is around 60% white, 35% Asian, and 5% rest. And that 5% rest is pretty white-ish (whether white Hispanics or very pale blacks or Middle Eastern).

    What type of a nurse are you?

    To Twinkie

    Sounds about right on average. Around where I live, the number is around 60% white, 35% Asian, and 5% rest. And that 5% rest is pretty white-ish (whether white Hispanics or very pale blacks or Middle Eastern).

    What type of a nurse are you?

    ICU. I didn’t really include arabs in my summary but there are a number of arabs as well. Maybe 2-3%.

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    ICU
     
    You do God's work!
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  126. “By the way, if you seriously offer up “whiteness studies” sites as references, then you are a deluded nitwit, with nothing to offer. Shove off, idiot.”

    The link was to show that it is an identity imposed upon us, and with malign intent, not one freely chosen. …

    By the time of the moon landing, American very much was not equivalent with “white”, not after Joe Louis and Jesse Owens. Don’t let the Critical Race Theory hucksters fool you.

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  127. WhatEvvs [AKA "Cookies"] says:
    @dcite
    Many wouldn't know it even with genetic testing. After a certain point, distant ancestry seems not to have a genetic presence. I know someone who is about 6% black African, because I know the families and genealogy down 5-8 generations. When this person took a DNA test it came back 99% white and 1% American Indian(?). No black.

    That’s interesting. Those genetic tests are kind of dicey, I’ve read. They are not 100% reliable.

    Onto one droppers….This man is one drop black – one in 64 (I think – maybe one in 128). He was a confederate colonel.

    Virtually all US Grinsteads trace back to Elizabeth Key and William Grinstead. She was mulatto and he was an English indentured servant. That colony had a lot of interracial marriage. They had many descendants, all white(ned). Johnny Depp is a Grinstead.

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  128. Twinkie says:
    @John Doe
    "I am well-acquainted with the healthcare system as I have several physicians in the family. The vast majority of physicians, especially specialists, are whites, East Asians or Indians (South Asians). There is hardly any Hispanic or black doctor, let alone African. They are rare even among primary care physicians and rarer still among specialists."

    I'm curious as to where you live because to say African doctors are rare in my area would be ridiculous. I live in a suburb of DC (not PG county). I would say it's the opposite of a highly undesirable area. Are Africans the majority of physicians? Absolutely not. But their role as what they call Hospitalists at hospitals can have a major impact on your care.

    There is also a large difference in outpatient care and inpatient care. If your physician visits are limited to a physical and getting some basic blood pressure medications from your primary care doctor, you can certainly stick to nothing but white and Asian physicians. If you are ever admitted into a hospital in any area near a major medical center on the east coast, your chance of never having an African physician, nurse, pharmacist, pharmacy tech, physician assistant, nurse practitioner, or nursing assistant involved in your care is basically zero. Now you may not care that who your pharmacy tech is but you probably should, they mix the drugs they inject into you. The African nurse sleeping through her night shift can easily give you the wrong drug or too much of a drug and kill you.

    I’m curious as to where you live because to say African doctors are rare in my area would be ridiculous. I live in a suburb of DC (not PG county).

    I live in the South. Let’s leave it at that.

    DC suburb could be Maryland or NoVA. Which is yours?

    an African physician, nurse, pharmacist, pharmacy tech, physician assistant, nurse practitioner, or nursing assistant

    That’s a rather expansive list of medical professions. Of course there’s bound to be a few. But unless you are a race realist, just how few they are is pretty shocking.

    Still very rare in my neck of the woods. I do know an African (actually from Africa) nurse anesthetist. Good guy. Earnest and, from what I hear, skilled. Married to a white nurse. Also fairly conservative from a few conversations I’ve had. His kids aren’t growing up “black.”

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    You say you live in the south and want to leave it at that. DC suburb seems much more specific.

    When I say African, I mean born in Africa. Mostly Nigeria.

    The list of health care workers I gave is quite expansive. That's the way health care works. There are a lot of hands in the cookie jar so to speak. And lots of them have the capability to kill you. That's why it's important. It's great that you have physicians in your family, but it's clear to me you don't understand how health care in a hospital really works in practice. It doesn't take a majority of practitioners to have a dramatically bad effect on outcomes. Barack Obama and Eric Holder are prime examples - a few idiots in positions of power can be disastrous.

    I'm curious about the Voltaire nurse's experience with Indian workers. In my experience, there are several of them that sometimes smell like they crawled out of a garbage can when they come to work. That doesn't make me feel so good when cleanliness is a priority in health care.
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  129. Twinkie says:
    @Voltaire's Spinning Corpse
    To Twinkie

    Sounds about right on average. Around where I live, the number is around 60% white, 35% Asian, and 5% rest. And that 5% rest is pretty white-ish (whether white Hispanics or very pale blacks or Middle Eastern).

    What type of a nurse are you?
     
    ICU. I didn't really include arabs in my summary but there are a number of arabs as well. Maybe 2-3%.

    ICU

    You do God’s work!

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    @Jefferson
    "Sarah Silverman doesn’t look Italian"

    Sarah Silverman can easily pass for Italian phenotype wise. Most Italians don't look like Aryan poster people like Nicole Kidman and Chris Hemsworth.

    Plus I have seen Italians that look even more "Ethnic" than Sarah Silverman.

    This guy for example is Italian. He does not exactly look like a WASP from Iowa.
    http://media.tumblr.com/c1d90a961b234a4247c391ee6b30f632/tumblr_inline_mqhgm7KyPh1qz4rgp.png

    Good luck with your vision correction.

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  131. John Doe says:
    @Twinkie

    I’m curious as to where you live because to say African doctors are rare in my area would be ridiculous. I live in a suburb of DC (not PG county).
     
    I live in the South. Let's leave it at that.

    DC suburb could be Maryland or NoVA. Which is yours?

    an African physician, nurse, pharmacist, pharmacy tech, physician assistant, nurse practitioner, or nursing assistant
     
    That's a rather expansive list of medical professions. Of course there's bound to be a few. But unless you are a race realist, just how few they are is pretty shocking.

    Still very rare in my neck of the woods. I do know an African (actually from Africa) nurse anesthetist. Good guy. Earnest and, from what I hear, skilled. Married to a white nurse. Also fairly conservative from a few conversations I've had. His kids aren't growing up "black."

    You say you live in the south and want to leave it at that. DC suburb seems much more specific.

    When I say African, I mean born in Africa. Mostly Nigeria.

    The list of health care workers I gave is quite expansive. That’s the way health care works. There are a lot of hands in the cookie jar so to speak. And lots of them have the capability to kill you. That’s why it’s important. It’s great that you have physicians in your family, but it’s clear to me you don’t understand how health care in a hospital really works in practice. It doesn’t take a majority of practitioners to have a dramatically bad effect on outcomes. Barack Obama and Eric Holder are prime examples – a few idiots in positions of power can be disastrous.

    I’m curious about the Voltaire nurse’s experience with Indian workers. In my experience, there are several of them that sometimes smell like they crawled out of a garbage can when they come to work. That doesn’t make me feel so good when cleanliness is a priority in health care.

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  132. Jefferson says:

    “Good luck with your vision correction.”

    No good luck with your vision correction. If Jews and Italians on average looked extremely different from each other like night and day, it would not be so common in Hollywood for Jews to play Italian roles and for Italians to play Jewish roles.

    I am Italian and I have been mistaken for a Jew before.

    Don’t forget that Italy has been conquered before by Non European Caucasoids from North Africa and the Middle East.

    That is why you have Italians like John Turturro for example who can easily pass for Jewish or Arab.

    Italians on average are not a Nordic looking people who just happened to speak a Latin romance language. it is not just the language that is different from the Germanic family, but the phenotypes on average are also different from the Germanic family.

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