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Jeronimo Yanez

The Cloak of “Fear”

Police officers like the killer of Philando Castile have an unbeatable defense when their victims are black: They were scared.

By Jamelle Bouie

… Before the Civil War, Southern whites held a pathological fear of slave revolts, despite lauding slavery as a “positive good.” That fear led slaveholding states to create patrols, made up of white men in the community, who would enforce slave codes, with legal authority to capture runaways, interrogate enslaved people, and punish them if necessary. Scholars see these slave patrols as one forerunner to modern police departments, “the first uniquely American form of policing,” writes Katheryn Russell-Brown in The Color of Crime: Racial Hoaxes, White Fear, Black Protectionism, Police Harassment, and Other Macroaggressions.

White city dwellers “believed that African Americans were violent and deviant” and “sought various public policy measures to seal themselves off from them.” The first municipal segregation laws, passed in Baltimore to divide the city into rigid black and white sections, emerged during this period, and police in cities like Philadelphia were used more to control the presence of blacks in white areas than to attack crime and violence, leaving many black Americans in a still-common situation—overpoliced for minor crimes and underpoliced for major ones.

This is still true. Among white Americans there is a strong cognitive connection between black people and crime. …

These stops, as researchers Charles Epp, Steven Maynard-Moody, and Donald Haider-Markel describe in Pulled Over: How Police Stops Define Race and Citizenship, largely target black people, particularly those driving in white neighborhoods, representing the literal enforcement of boundaries.

Generations of black writers and observers have noted the fear and anxiety that defines white America’s relationship to its black counterpart and how that manifests in those people charged with policing the borders between the two worlds. “He has never, himself, done anything for which to be hated—which of us has?—and yet he is facing, daily and nightly, people who would gladly see him dead, and he knows it,” writes James Baldwin of the “white policeman” in the essay “Fifth Avenue, Uptown.”

… Your property, your livelihood—even your life—depended on the whims of whites. In little more than an instant, a mob might burn your home, destroy your business, or revel in a ritualistic murder. …

Emphasis mine.

Words not mentioned once in this article about the acquittal of Jeronimo Yanez: “Hispanic” or “Latino.”

P.S., W hat are the odds that Officer Yanez was an affirmative action hire?

 
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  1. syonredux says:

    Emphasis mine.

    Words not mentioned once in this article about the acquittal of Jeronimo Yanez: “Hispanic” or “Latino.”

    Don’t be un-Woke, Steve. Whenever a POC cop kills a Black man, he/she is simply acting as the White Man’s instrument. A Latinx held the gun, but White Society pulled the trigger.

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    • Replies: @Arclight
    This made me laugh out loud - you are right. White people are simultaneously inferior to POC (if only we'd get our boots off their necks) yet we managed to create the most powerful and oppressive society on earth whose gravitational pull is so strong you can link any problem to.
    , @oddsbodkins
    Correct. This is one of the corollaries of "minorities have no agency."
    , @Pericles
    Jeronimo Yanez, honorary White. It's like joining a gang, you have to kill someone to get in.

    That reminds me, Trump or Sessions or someone could now take the opportunity to break out the Latinx category from Whites when it comes to crime.
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  2. anon says: • Disclaimer

    This may seem rude, but I don’t really mean it as an insult. Looking at this picture, Jeronimo reminds me of one of those little “Homies” figurines you used to find in vending machines, if you painted a police uniform on it. I think it’s a combination of the posture and the facial expression.

    That may seem off-topic, but I don’t know what else to say. Jamelle Bouie is just being Jamelle Bouie.

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  3. unit472 says:

    We might all agree that if accosted by a gunman the proper response is not to resist or lecture him on your right to be left alone. He holds all the cards so unless you want to risk being shot over your wallet its best to give him what he wants as calmly as possible and hope for the best.

    Now, whatever one may think of a police officer’s demeanor or his reason for stopping you, resisting or lecturing him is not going to improve the outcome. He too hold all the cards at least for the moment. He has a name and you will be seen by a judge who will review your case for probable cause if it results in an arrest. There is legal recourse and, if you are black, a sympathetic media to appeal to.

    My guess is that 90% of all problem encounters blacks have with police result from their non cooperation, fleeing or physically resisting the officer.

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    • Replies: @IndieRafael
    I read some of the details of this case today, including comments by law enforcement experts. I don't pretend to know all the details, and it's easy to second guess later in the calm of day. But it seems like Castile (the victim) was pretty low-key and did it mostly right, but shouldn't have reached for his wallet at the end. The policeman probably should not have discharged his weapon. Also, once the policeman heard there was a gun in the car, one of the experts suggested that he should have told Castile to keep both hands on the wheel or in plain sight. Finally, the policeman's partner was too casual at first, then didn't back up his partner correctly after shots were fired.
    , @Macumazahn
    Exactly. Same as that asshole who made the cops drag him off that plane in Chicago.
    "Comply now, litigate later."
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  4. Among white Americans there is a strong cognitive connection between black people and crime

    It must be all that racist propaganda coming from Justice Department statisticians. Good thing Obama put a stop to that

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  5. syonredux says:

    Before the Civil War, Southern whites held a pathological fear of slave revolts, despite lauding slavery as a “positive good.”

    “Pathological?” Dunno. Fear of a slave revolt sounds pretty reasonable to me…..Particularly after the way that rebelling slaves massacred the French population in Haiti:

    The 1804 Haiti massacre was carried out against the remaining white population of native French people and French Creoles (or Franco-Haitians) in Haiti by Haitian soldiers under orders from Jean-Jacques Dessalines, who had decreed that all suspected of conspiring in the acts of the expelled army should be put to death.[1] Throughout the nineteenth century, these events were well known in the United States, where they were called “the horrors of St. Domingo” and they polarized Southern public opinion on the question of the abolition of slavery.[2][3]
    The massacre, which took place throughout Haiti, occurred from early February 1804 until 22 April 1804 and resulted in the deaths of 3,000 to 5,000 men, women, and children.[4]
    Squads of soldiers moved from house to house, torturing and killing entire families.[5] Even whites who had been friendly and sympathetic to the black population were imprisoned and later killed.[6] A second wave of massacres targeted white women and children

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_massacre

    But that little incident seems to have been dropped down the memory hole….

    Scholars see these slave patrols as one forerunner to modern police departments,

    Probably not much of a factor in places like Boston…..

    leaving many black Americans in a still-common situation—overpoliced for minor crimes and underpoliced for major ones.

    Let you in on a little secret: Cops use minor crimes when they can’t convict on major crimes. So, Black guy commits multiple murders, but no one is willing to talk (“Snitches get stitches”). Arrest him on a drug possession/loitering/public drunkenness charge.

    This is still true. Among white Americans there is a strong cognitive connection between black people and crime. “The mere presence of a black man,” note a team of researchers in a 2004 paper, “can trigger thoughts that he is violent and criminal.” The reverse is also true: The connection between blacks and crime is so tight that just thinking about crime—irrespective of environment—triggers thoughts of black people.

    Gosh, maybe White people connect Blacks and crime because Blacks are, you know, prone to acts of criminal violence?:

    According to the FBI SHR data, in 2009 there were 6,505 black homicide
    victims in the United States. The homicide rate among black victims in the United
    States was 17.90 per 100,000. For that year, the overall national homicide rate was
    4.76 per 100,000. For whites, the national homicide rate was 2.92 per 100,000.
    Additional information contained in the FBI SHR data on black homicide includes the
    following.

    Of the 6,505 black homicide victims, 5,576 (86 percent) were male, and 928
    (14 percent) were female. In one case, the gender of the victim was unknown. The
    homicide rate for black male victims was 32.14 per 100,000. In comparison, the
    overall rate for male homicide victims was 7.57 per 100,000. For white male
    homicide victims it was 4.26 per 100,000. The homicide rate for female black victims
    was 4.89 per 100,000. In comparison, the overall rate for female homicide victims
    was 2.01 per 100,000. For white female homicide victims it was 1.61 per 100,000.

    Blacks in the United States are disproportionately affected by homicide. For the
    year 2009, blacks represented 13 percent of the nation’s population, yet accounted
    for 47 percent of all homicide victims.

    http://www.vpc.org/studies/blackhomicide12.pdf

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    Scholars see these slave patrols as one forerunner to modern police departments,
     
    Probably not much of a factor in places like Boston…..
     
    The people of color there were of a ruddier color, and eventually became the force themselves.
    , @TGGP
    I find it interesting that there were so few slave revolts in America. I know there's Nat Turner, who recently had that movie, but considering how long we had slavery and how much larger America is, you might expect more. One possibility is that slavery over there had a different character, with a different environment and the focus on sugarcane rather than cotton or tobacco (although I believe there was cane grown in the far south of the US). French colonial government could also be a factor.

    Bouie is indeed being Bouie, but I think it's a valid point that simply permitting any cop to say they "felt" scared is way too lax a standard. There has to be some kind of justification based on the circumstances.

    , @anon
    Cops use minor crimes when they can't convict on major crimes.

    Good point. Al Capone, who may have been ultimately responsible for 400 homicides was convicted for tax evasion. It wasn't sexy but it got him put away.
    , @oddsbodkins
    At the time of the Haitian rebellion, Haiti was primarily engaged in sugar production. Sugar production as practiced in the Carribean then was incredibly grueling and typically killed the slaves within 5-10 years, more or less. Which is why they had to constantly bring in fresh slaves. It's what the gulags would have been if Russia had the climate for sugar. Hard to blame a slave being worked to death in that system for feeling justified in killing the whites who had been running it that way for generations. And any reasonable white in that system surely suspected that they had made a pact with the devil that might one day produce an expensive bill.
    , @gruhn

    Probably not much of a factor in places like Boston…..
     
    White men in uniforms have been shooting black men in Boston since at least 1770.
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  6. utu says:

    Number of Whites killed by police is the same as number of Blacks when normalized by the number of interactions with police.

    Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police. Poor training, improper rules of engagements, bad attitude, low expectations., acceptance of brutality, impunity. And yes, guns.

    The difference between Back and White killings is that we never hear about the latter. It seems that Blacks care about their own killed by police more than Whites do. One could conclude that Whites are ok with being killed by police. Does it have anything to do with racism and the so called fear of Blacks? Probably but it is not a dominant factor. However, if Blacks were taken out of the equation I can imagine American Whites raising their expectation and demanding to be treated by police like Europeans. Multi-ethnic and multi-cultural society is a perfect vehicle for the rulers to have people diffuse their energy of self-intersts on multi-ethnic strife and end up settling for much less.

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    "Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police. Poor training, improper rules of engagements, bad attitude, low expectations., acceptance of brutality, impunity. And yes, guns"

    Somehow our country thinks that 1 out of every 200 adults should have the combined skillset of a lawyer and a psychiatrist, be able to handle firearms, have no measurable fight-or-flight reflex (but not be a total psychopath), and be content to work for middle-class wages.
    , @fnn

    Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police. Poor training, improper rules of engagements, bad attitude, low expectations., acceptance of brutality, impunity.
     
    US police shoot too often, but European police need to able to shoot more often:
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-18/germany-police-powerless-against-middle-eastern-crime-gangs

    A court in Hanover has handed suspended sentences to six members of a Kurdish clan who seriously wounded two dozen police officers during a violent rampage in Hameln. The court's ruling was greeted with anger and derision by police who said it is yet another example of the laxity of Germany's politically correct judicial system.

    The case goes back to January 2014, when a 26-year-old clan member, arrested for robbery, tried to escape from the magistrate's office by jumping out of a seventh-floor courtroom window. The suspect was taken to the hospital, where he died. Members of his clan subsequently ransacked the hospital, as well as the court, and attacked police with rocks and other projectiles; 24 police officers and six paramedics were injured.

    The judge said he was lenient because the defendants witnessed the death of the 26-year-old and were traumatized. The judge also revealed that he had reached a deal with the clan, which among other effects prevented police from testifying in court.

    Dietmar Schilff, chairman of the GdP police union in Lower Saxony, said that the ruling had left many police officers shaking their heads in disbelief: "All police forces expect protection and support from the state." He added:

    "If we want to protect those who ensure public security, it must be clear that anyone who attacks police officers attacks the state — and has to fear appropriate consequences. It does not matter from which milieu the perpetrators come."
    Observers have surmised that the real reason for the judge's leniency was that he feared his family might be subjected to retribution from the clan.

    Middle Eastern crime syndicates have established themselves across Germany, where they engage in racketeering, extortion, money laundering, pimping and trafficking in humans, weapons and drugs.

    The syndicates, which are run by large clans with origins in Lebanon, Turkey, Syria, among other places, operate with virtual impunity because German judges and prosecutors are unable or unwilling to stop them.

    The clans — some of which migrated to Germany during Lebanon's 1975-1990 civil war and have grown to thousands of members — now control large swathes of German cities and towns — areas that are effectively lawless and which German police increasingly fear to approach.

    Ralph Ghadban, a Lebanese-German political scientist and a leading expert on Middle Eastern clans in Germany, said that the Hanover ruling was a massive failure of the German judicial system. He added that the only way for Germany to achieve control over the clans is to destroy them:

    "In their concept of masculinity, only power and force matter; if someone is humane and civil, this is considered a weakness. In clan structures, in tribal culture everywhere in the world, ethics are confined to the clan itself. Everything outside the clan is enemy territory."
    In an interview with Focus, Ghadban elaborated:

    "I have been following this trend for years. The clans now feel so strong that they are attacking the authority of the state and the police. They have nothing but contempt for the judiciary.... The main problem in dealing with clans: state institutions give no resistance. This makes the families more and more aggressive — they simply have no respect for the authorities....
     
    , @Macumazahn
    "Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police."
    How about normalizing that to the rate of encounters with violent negroes?
    Methinks the European cops rarely see such individuals.
    , @syonredux

    Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police. Poor training, improper rules of engagements, bad attitude, low expectations., acceptance of brutality, impunity. And yes, guns.
     
    Another factor: Disparate Impact. High standards = fewer Blacks. Fewer Blacks = Disparate Impact. Disparate Impact= lawsuit......

    For example, Chicago hires randomly from the lists of everybody who passed the extremely easy police-and-fire-applicants written tests. Last December, 17,948 passed Chicago’s fire test and only 2,583 failed. Police hiring in Chicago is similar, which means that thousands of the most promising candidates are skipped over, with only the bottom of the barrel scraped off. How are passing scores determined in the months it takes Chicago to grade its Scantron tests? Nobody seems to know, but an anonymous commenter on Second City Cop hypothesized, “Passing score will be one point below the stupidest guy with clout.”

    In 2010, Chicago floated the idea of becoming the only big city in the country to do away with its police test because it had become so pointless.

    Why do cities engage in such an obviously dysfunctional undertaking as random hiring of police?

    No doubt because random hiring helps facilitate nepotism and corruption; but the public justification is, of course, race.

    Sometimes lowering standards is used as a way to get around having to use a racial quota; other times it’s used to cover up quotas. Philadelphia, for instance, shifted in 1989 from rank-ordering test takers to a lottery among the 85 percent who passed the written exam because:

    Ronald L. Oliver, president of the Guardian Civic League, which represents black police officers, said the change to pass-fail also would erase an unfair stigma sometimes attached to those minority candidates who, because of the consent decrees, were chosen ahead of white applicants who scored higher.

    The inevitable problem with random selection is that cities don’t get the best of each race. Chicago and Philadelphia are letting whites in the bottom 10 percent of the white intelligence distribution get hired. They are not likely to be good decision-makers.

     

    http://takimag.com/article/how_to_hire_better_cops_steve_sailer/print#ixzz3gbFYsju7
    , @27 year old
    >However, if Blacks were taken out of the equation I can imagine American Whites raising their expectation and demanding to be treated by police like Europeans.


    Which is why the powers that be are so eager to frame police killings as a racial issue
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  7. Alfa158 says:

    I understand there are a lot of LA Police High School Cadet program participants who now have time on their hands and are available for recruitment directly into the ranks to replace officer Yanez.
    Possibly, Steve will eventually get around to covering that story as well once all the laughs stop, but I have no idea when that will be. To date it just keeps getting juicier as it develops.

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  8. Mr Bouie has my solemn promise that should he attempt an “escape” to another land, he will encounter absolutely no resistance from me.

    These stops, as researchers Charles Epp, Steven Maynard-Moody, and Donald Haider-Markel describe

    Five surnames for just three guys? On this side of the ocean? (Or Rio Grande, for that matter.)

    And I thought “metrosexuality” had run its course.

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    I nourish a quiet hope that Steven Maynard-Moody and Donald Haider-Markel will tie the knot.
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  9. @syonredux

    Before the Civil War, Southern whites held a pathological fear of slave revolts, despite lauding slavery as a “positive good.”
     
    "Pathological?" Dunno. Fear of a slave revolt sounds pretty reasonable to me.....Particularly after the way that rebelling slaves massacred the French population in Haiti:

    The 1804 Haiti massacre was carried out against the remaining white population of native French people and French Creoles (or Franco-Haitians) in Haiti by Haitian soldiers under orders from Jean-Jacques Dessalines, who had decreed that all suspected of conspiring in the acts of the expelled army should be put to death.[1] Throughout the nineteenth century, these events were well known in the United States, where they were called "the horrors of St. Domingo" and they polarized Southern public opinion on the question of the abolition of slavery.[2][3]
    The massacre, which took place throughout Haiti, occurred from early February 1804 until 22 April 1804 and resulted in the deaths of 3,000 to 5,000 men, women, and children.[4]
    Squads of soldiers moved from house to house, torturing and killing entire families.[5] Even whites who had been friendly and sympathetic to the black population were imprisoned and later killed.[6] A second wave of massacres targeted white women and children
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_massacre

    But that little incident seems to have been dropped down the memory hole....

    Scholars see these slave patrols as one forerunner to modern police departments,
     
    Probably not much of a factor in places like Boston.....

    leaving many black Americans in a still-common situation—overpoliced for minor crimes and underpoliced for major ones.
     
    Let you in on a little secret: Cops use minor crimes when they can't convict on major crimes. So, Black guy commits multiple murders, but no one is willing to talk ("Snitches get stitches"). Arrest him on a drug possession/loitering/public drunkenness charge.

    This is still true. Among white Americans there is a strong cognitive connection between black people and crime. “The mere presence of a black man,” note a team of researchers in a 2004 paper, “can trigger thoughts that he is violent and criminal.” The reverse is also true: The connection between blacks and crime is so tight that just thinking about crime—irrespective of environment—triggers thoughts of black people.

     

    Gosh, maybe White people connect Blacks and crime because Blacks are, you know, prone to acts of criminal violence?:

    According to the FBI SHR data, in 2009 there were 6,505 black homicide
    victims in the United States. The homicide rate among black victims in the United
    States was 17.90 per 100,000. For that year, the overall national homicide rate was
    4.76 per 100,000. For whites, the national homicide rate was 2.92 per 100,000.
    Additional information contained in the FBI SHR data on black homicide includes the
    following.
     

    Of the 6,505 black homicide victims, 5,576 (86 percent) were male, and 928
    (14 percent) were female. In one case, the gender of the victim was unknown. The
    homicide rate for black male victims was 32.14 per 100,000. In comparison, the
    overall rate for male homicide victims was 7.57 per 100,000. For white male
    homicide victims it was 4.26 per 100,000. The homicide rate for female black victims
    was 4.89 per 100,000. In comparison, the overall rate for female homicide victims
    was 2.01 per 100,000. For white female homicide victims it was 1.61 per 100,000.

     


    Blacks in the United States are disproportionately affected by homicide. For the
    year 2009, blacks represented 13 percent of the nation’s population, yet accounted
    for 47 percent of all homicide victims.

     

    http://www.vpc.org/studies/blackhomicide12.pdf

    Scholars see these slave patrols as one forerunner to modern police departments,

    Probably not much of a factor in places like Boston…..

    The people of color there were of a ruddier color, and eventually became the force themselves.

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  10. I’ve witnessed a rather curious thing: Daily Show-watching Millenials seem to be under the impression that Yanez should have been found guilty of murder, despite being tried for manslaughter and some lesser crimes. Where was the outrage at the DA over the manslaughter charge if these people are so certain that Castile was murdered?

    I also thought it was funny that earlier in the week, my local news anchor (non-white woman in a big city market) flubbed Yanez’s name twice when trying to recap the headline.

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  11. Sailer is right. The Slate article shows the liberal tribe orthodoxy that is determined to blame all race issues on “white” people even in scenarios like this where white people weren’t even involved.

    On this specific case:

    Police officers like the killer of Philando Castile have an unbeatable defense when their victims are black: They were scared.

    Being scared isn’t an “unbeatable defense”, or at least, it isn’t supposed to be. The fear must be “reasonable” by the court of law. In this case, the fear wasn’t reasonable, and the courts made the wrong judgement. The cop is probably a good guy that meant no malice, but he panicked when he shouldn’t have and killed an innocent man.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448828/philando-castile-shooting-police-must-display-reasonable-fear

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    The fear must be “reasonable” by the court of law. In this case, the fear wasn’t reasonable,

    What the hell are you talking about? A guy actually tells you he has a gun, and keeps reaching towards it, even after you tell him to stop?

    What situation have you ever been in that put you at a more reasonable fear for your life than that?
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  12. JerryC says:

    Love the scare quotes around “fear”. Maybe cops are afraid of ending up like this guy when they make a routine traffic stop. Probably Jamelle Bouie would be, too, if he was a cop.

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    Cop doesn't make the top twenty most dangerous jobs in America.
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  13. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Massimo Heitor
    Sailer is right. The Slate article shows the liberal tribe orthodoxy that is determined to blame all race issues on "white" people even in scenarios like this where white people weren't even involved.

    On this specific case:

    Police officers like the killer of Philando Castile have an unbeatable defense when their victims are black: They were scared.
     
    Being scared isn't an "unbeatable defense", or at least, it isn't supposed to be. The fear must be "reasonable" by the court of law. In this case, the fear wasn't reasonable, and the courts made the wrong judgement. The cop is probably a good guy that meant no malice, but he panicked when he shouldn't have and killed an innocent man.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448828/philando-castile-shooting-police-must-display-reasonable-fear

    The fear must be “reasonable” by the court of law. In this case, the fear wasn’t reasonable,

    What the hell are you talking about? A guy actually tells you he has a gun, and keeps reaching towards it, even after you tell him to stop?

    What situation have you ever been in that put you at a more reasonable fear for your life than that?

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  14. It’s curious how many MSM outlets have discussed the trial, without explaining the policeman is not White. But that’s seems to be a deliberate pattern. How many stories were aired or printed before we learned that George Zimmerman wasn’t Uber-white Republican but a Democrat supporting Hispanic?

    And can David French just join MSNBC? I’m tired of his liberal views & anti-police attitude posing as a “True Conservative”. We couldn’t see what the suspect was doing, so we have no idea whether the shooting was justified or not. We weren’t in the jury room either.

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    I'm pretty sure David French is the hippest guy at National Review. I wish we'd taken Bill Kristol's advice and elected him president.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/874038096513335297
    , @anon
    And can David French just join MSNBC? I’m tired of his liberal views & anti-police attitude posing as a “True Conservative”.

    David French is such a tool he was actually forced out of the headlines by Evan McMullin. Imagine what that feels like.
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  15. bjdubbs says:

    OT

    Of the 17 faces on the Slate “Voices” sidebar, 14 of the 17 are Jewish. The exceptions are Jamelle Bouie, John Dickerson, and Dana Stevens. So of the 16 that aren’t black, 14/16 are Jewish. It’s really kind of remarkable that Slate can run constant SJW coverage while employing a house policy of hiring only Jews with a token white political reporter and a token black political reporter. It’s interesting that three of the Slate non-Jews (Stevens, Metcalf, and editor Julia Turner) do a podcast together, apparently sitting by themselves at the non-Jew table in the Slate cafeteria. It’s really incredible that despite Dickerson and Bouie being probably the two highest traffic writers at Slate, Slate maintain what one Slate job ad described as “must be a mensch” (they actually said that) hiring policy. To be clear, I don’t object to the hiring policy, I object to the obviously self-serving coverage with no admission that it’s coming from a Jewish publicatino.

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    But Slate has gotten boring since they stopped only having smart Jewish male Michael Kinsley clones as editor and hired a gentile woman. It appears to be doing pretty well financially under Ms. Turner, but to my tastes these days it's mostly dull girl stuff.
    , @WR
    "Of the 17 faces on the Slate “Voices” sidebar, 14 of the 17 are Jewish."

    2% of the US population, 82% of writers at Slate. Yet you're not supposed to notice or mention this. And in all fairness, these (((columnists))) do not represent the views of the majority of American Jews. Oftentimes they are not only anti-white (domestically) and anti-American (globally) but also anti-Israel. Personally, I'm very sympathetic to innocent victims of terrorism in Sredot, Jerusalem or Tel Aviv. My guess is that several of these writers limit their compassion to the Palestinians who kill their co-ethnics in the Middle East.
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  16. @bjdubbs
    OT

    Of the 17 faces on the Slate "Voices" sidebar, 14 of the 17 are Jewish. The exceptions are Jamelle Bouie, John Dickerson, and Dana Stevens. So of the 16 that aren't black, 14/16 are Jewish. It's really kind of remarkable that Slate can run constant SJW coverage while employing a house policy of hiring only Jews with a token white political reporter and a token black political reporter. It's interesting that three of the Slate non-Jews (Stevens, Metcalf, and editor Julia Turner) do a podcast together, apparently sitting by themselves at the non-Jew table in the Slate cafeteria. It's really incredible that despite Dickerson and Bouie being probably the two highest traffic writers at Slate, Slate maintain what one Slate job ad described as "must be a mensch" (they actually said that) hiring policy. To be clear, I don't object to the hiring policy, I object to the obviously self-serving coverage with no admission that it's coming from a Jewish publicatino.

    But Slate has gotten boring since they stopped only having smart Jewish male Michael Kinsley clones as editor and hired a gentile woman. It appears to be doing pretty well financially under Ms. Turner, but to my tastes these days it’s mostly dull girl stuff.

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    But Slate has gotten boring since they stopped only having smart Jewish male Michael Kinsley clones as editor and hired a gentile woman. It appears to be doing pretty well financially under Ms. Turner, but to my tastes these days it’s mostly dull girl stuff.
     
    I think the way it works, is after a 30-year old woman completes her A.A. degree (in some frivolous topic) at her local community college, she also graduates from Buzzfeed, to, like, super highbrow material such as Slate and Salon.

    I'm so old, I remember when Slate was worth reading. That was a largely 20th century phenomenon, admittedly.
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  17. newrouter says:

    “Generations of black writers and observers have noted the fear and anxiety that defines white America’s relationship to its black counterpart and how that manifests in those people charged with policing the borders between the two worlds”

    Einbahnstraße

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  18. Arclight says:
    @syonredux

    Emphasis mine.

    Words not mentioned once in this article about the acquittal of Jeronimo Yanez: “Hispanic” or “Latino.”
     
    Don't be un-Woke, Steve. Whenever a POC cop kills a Black man, he/she is simply acting as the White Man's instrument. A Latinx held the gun, but White Society pulled the trigger.

    This made me laugh out loud – you are right. White people are simultaneously inferior to POC (if only we’d get our boots off their necks) yet we managed to create the most powerful and oppressive society on earth whose gravitational pull is so strong you can link any problem to.

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  19. Jeronimo is a scaredy cat and an idiot. Would it be too much to ask that he be taken off the streets? He was acquitted because police state.

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    The Village of St. Anthony is bound and determined that he will not return to its streets, at least as a cop.
    , @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Jeronimo is a scaredy cat and an idiot. Would it be too much to ask that he be taken off the streets? He was acquitted because police state.
     
    He obviously shouldn't be a cop, but I see no purpose served in carting him off to prison. In that context, I am glad he was acquitted. I'd've been OK with a manslaughter conviction, if it resulted in ten years probation. But it would have resulted in a term in prison, and incompetent, cowardly, not-overly-bright cops should be fired, not incarcerated.
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  20. @JerryC
    Love the scare quotes around "fear". Maybe cops are afraid of ending up like this guy when they make a routine traffic stop. Probably Jamelle Bouie would be, too, if he was a cop.

    Cop doesn’t make the top twenty most dangerous jobs in America.

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    Well aware of that. But obviously it's not as simple as telling cops "Your job isn't that dangerous, so don't worry so much about your personal safety". The human instinct for self-preservation isn't so easily defeated.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Cop doesn’t make the top twenty most dangerous jobs in America.
     
    Yes, but that isn't a winning argument. It is one thing to die or be maimed because the work is dangerous. It is another thing to die or be maimed because of political correctness.
    , @Hibernian
    I wonder what the statistics would be like if you broke out separately Mayberry RFD type departments, those in places like Chicago, and those that are somewhere in between.
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  21. @utu
    Number of Whites killed by police is the same as number of Blacks when normalized by the number of interactions with police.

    Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police. Poor training, improper rules of engagements, bad attitude, low expectations., acceptance of brutality, impunity. And yes, guns.

    The difference between Back and White killings is that we never hear about the latter. It seems that Blacks care about their own killed by police more than Whites do. One could conclude that Whites are ok with being killed by police. Does it have anything to do with racism and the so called fear of Blacks? Probably but it is not a dominant factor. However, if Blacks were taken out of the equation I can imagine American Whites raising their expectation and demanding to be treated by police like Europeans. Multi-ethnic and multi-cultural society is a perfect vehicle for the rulers to have people diffuse their energy of self-intersts on multi-ethnic strife and end up settling for much less.

    “Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police. Poor training, improper rules of engagements, bad attitude, low expectations., acceptance of brutality, impunity. And yes, guns”

    Somehow our country thinks that 1 out of every 200 adults should have the combined skillset of a lawyer and a psychiatrist, be able to handle firearms, have no measurable fight-or-flight reflex (but not be a total psychopath), and be content to work for middle-class wages.

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  22. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @honesthughgrant
    It's curious how many MSM outlets have discussed the trial, without explaining the policeman is not White. But that's seems to be a deliberate pattern. How many stories were aired or printed before we learned that George Zimmerman wasn't Uber-white Republican but a Democrat supporting Hispanic?

    And can David French just join MSNBC? I'm tired of his liberal views & anti-police attitude posing as a "True Conservative". We couldn't see what the suspect was doing, so we have no idea whether the shooting was justified or not. We weren't in the jury room either.

    I’m pretty sure David French is the hippest guy at National Review. I wish we’d taken Bill Kristol’s advice and elected him president.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/874038096513335297

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  23. @unit472
    We might all agree that if accosted by a gunman the proper response is not to resist or lecture him on your right to be left alone. He holds all the cards so unless you want to risk being shot over your wallet its best to give him what he wants as calmly as possible and hope for the best.

    Now, whatever one may think of a police officer's demeanor or his reason for stopping you, resisting or lecturing him is not going to improve the outcome. He too hold all the cards at least for the moment. He has a name and you will be seen by a judge who will review your case for probable cause if it results in an arrest. There is legal recourse and, if you are black, a sympathetic media to appeal to.

    My guess is that 90% of all problem encounters blacks have with police result from their non cooperation, fleeing or physically resisting the officer.

    I read some of the details of this case today, including comments by law enforcement experts. I don’t pretend to know all the details, and it’s easy to second guess later in the calm of day. But it seems like Castile (the victim) was pretty low-key and did it mostly right, but shouldn’t have reached for his wallet at the end. The policeman probably should not have discharged his weapon. Also, once the policeman heard there was a gun in the car, one of the experts suggested that he should have told Castile to keep both hands on the wheel or in plain sight. Finally, the policeman’s partner was too casual at first, then didn’t back up his partner correctly after shots were fired.

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    " But it seems like Castile (the victim) was pretty low-key and did it mostly right, but shouldn’t have reached for his wallet at the end. The policeman probably should not have discharged his weapon. Also, once the policeman heard there was a gun in the car, one of the experts suggested that he should have told Castile to keep both hands on the wheel or in plain sight. Finally, the policeman’s partner was too casual at first, then didn’t back up his partner correctly after shots were fired."

    sounds like major multicultural failure event.
    , @anon
    I'm guessing Mr Castile's thought processing was affected by recent weed smoking, causing him to presume that the cop could read his mind.
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  24. fnn says:
    @utu
    Number of Whites killed by police is the same as number of Blacks when normalized by the number of interactions with police.

    Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police. Poor training, improper rules of engagements, bad attitude, low expectations., acceptance of brutality, impunity. And yes, guns.

    The difference between Back and White killings is that we never hear about the latter. It seems that Blacks care about their own killed by police more than Whites do. One could conclude that Whites are ok with being killed by police. Does it have anything to do with racism and the so called fear of Blacks? Probably but it is not a dominant factor. However, if Blacks were taken out of the equation I can imagine American Whites raising their expectation and demanding to be treated by police like Europeans. Multi-ethnic and multi-cultural society is a perfect vehicle for the rulers to have people diffuse their energy of self-intersts on multi-ethnic strife and end up settling for much less.

    Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police. Poor training, improper rules of engagements, bad attitude, low expectations., acceptance of brutality, impunity.

    US police shoot too often, but European police need to able to shoot more often:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-18/germany-police-powerless-against-middle-eastern-crime-gangs

    A court in Hanover has handed suspended sentences to six members of a Kurdish clan who seriously wounded two dozen police officers during a violent rampage in Hameln. The court’s ruling was greeted with anger and derision by police who said it is yet another example of the laxity of Germany’s politically correct judicial system.

    The case goes back to January 2014, when a 26-year-old clan member, arrested for robbery, tried to escape from the magistrate’s office by jumping out of a seventh-floor courtroom window. The suspect was taken to the hospital, where he died. Members of his clan subsequently ransacked the hospital, as well as the court, and attacked police with rocks and other projectiles; 24 police officers and six paramedics were injured.

    The judge said he was lenient because the defendants witnessed the death of the 26-year-old and were traumatized. The judge also revealed that he had reached a deal with the clan, which among other effects prevented police from testifying in court.

    Dietmar Schilff, chairman of the GdP police union in Lower Saxony, said that the ruling had left many police officers shaking their heads in disbelief: “All police forces expect protection and support from the state.” He added:

    “If we want to protect those who ensure public security, it must be clear that anyone who attacks police officers attacks the state — and has to fear appropriate consequences. It does not matter from which milieu the perpetrators come.”
    Observers have surmised that the real reason for the judge’s leniency was that he feared his family might be subjected to retribution from the clan.

    Middle Eastern crime syndicates have established themselves across Germany, where they engage in racketeering, extortion, money laundering, pimping and trafficking in humans, weapons and drugs.

    The syndicates, which are run by large clans with origins in Lebanon, Turkey, Syria, among other places, operate with virtual impunity because German judges and prosecutors are unable or unwilling to stop them.

    The clans — some of which migrated to Germany during Lebanon’s 1975-1990 civil war and have grown to thousands of members — now control large swathes of German cities and towns — areas that are effectively lawless and which German police increasingly fear to approach.

    Ralph Ghadban, a Lebanese-German political scientist and a leading expert on Middle Eastern clans in Germany, said that the Hanover ruling was a massive failure of the German judicial system. He added that the only way for Germany to achieve control over the clans is to destroy them:

    “In their concept of masculinity, only power and force matter; if someone is humane and civil, this is considered a weakness. In clan structures, in tribal culture everywhere in the world, ethics are confined to the clan itself. Everything outside the clan is enemy territory.”
    In an interview with Focus, Ghadban elaborated:

    “I have been following this trend for years. The clans now feel so strong that they are attacking the authority of the state and the police. They have nothing but contempt for the judiciary…. The main problem in dealing with clans: state institutions give no resistance. This makes the families more and more aggressive — they simply have no respect for the authorities….

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    Plus, the mom of the deceased parkour-attempting window exiteer has 8 kids (now 7).

    In France, this kind of hospital-ransacking because of extreme emotional distress occurs with culturally diverse "Roma" gangs.

    I wonder what would happen in Lebanon. I hear Hezbollah has the situation in hand over there.

    , @Pericles

    The judge said he was lenient because the defendants witnessed the death of the 26-year-old and were traumatized. The judge also revealed that he had reached a deal with the clan, which among other effects prevented police from testifying in court.
    ...
    Observers have surmised that the real reason for the judge’s leniency was that he feared his family might be subjected to retribution from the clan.

     

    Jawdropping. Welcome to the future you chose, white men.
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  25. newrouter says:
    @IndieRafael
    I read some of the details of this case today, including comments by law enforcement experts. I don't pretend to know all the details, and it's easy to second guess later in the calm of day. But it seems like Castile (the victim) was pretty low-key and did it mostly right, but shouldn't have reached for his wallet at the end. The policeman probably should not have discharged his weapon. Also, once the policeman heard there was a gun in the car, one of the experts suggested that he should have told Castile to keep both hands on the wheel or in plain sight. Finally, the policeman's partner was too casual at first, then didn't back up his partner correctly after shots were fired.

    ” But it seems like Castile (the victim) was pretty low-key and did it mostly right, but shouldn’t have reached for his wallet at the end. The policeman probably should not have discharged his weapon. Also, once the policeman heard there was a gun in the car, one of the experts suggested that he should have told Castile to keep both hands on the wheel or in plain sight. Finally, the policeman’s partner was too casual at first, then didn’t back up his partner correctly after shots were fired.”

    sounds like major multicultural failure event.

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  26. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @honesthughgrant
    It's curious how many MSM outlets have discussed the trial, without explaining the policeman is not White. But that's seems to be a deliberate pattern. How many stories were aired or printed before we learned that George Zimmerman wasn't Uber-white Republican but a Democrat supporting Hispanic?

    And can David French just join MSNBC? I'm tired of his liberal views & anti-police attitude posing as a "True Conservative". We couldn't see what the suspect was doing, so we have no idea whether the shooting was justified or not. We weren't in the jury room either.

    And can David French just join MSNBC? I’m tired of his liberal views & anti-police attitude posing as a “True Conservative”.

    David French is such a tool he was actually forced out of the headlines by Evan McMullin. Imagine what that feels like.

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    Thunderdome. Two egg heads enter, one comes out.
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  27. JerryC says:
    @Bill Jones
    Cop doesn't make the top twenty most dangerous jobs in America.

    Well aware of that. But obviously it’s not as simple as telling cops “Your job isn’t that dangerous, so don’t worry so much about your personal safety”. The human instinct for self-preservation isn’t so easily defeated.

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    I never understood the "Police officer isn't even one of the twenty most dangerous jobs!" line either.

    I mean, don't you imagine that the people in those twenty most dangerous jobs get scared pretty frequently too?
    , @Dahlia
    "The human instinct for self-preservation isn’t so easily defeated."

    Two things I learned a long time ago: 1. true crime documentaries trying to get someone off/on are sh** 2. Public outcries for justice over innocent black guy gunned down by evil man always turn out to be sh**.
    (The same mindset is a sucker for both.)

    So, I avoided learning about this case. Then, the cuckservatives started making noise. Then some more noise. Then, one meekly said he disagreed with "everybody". Finally, I got curious.... Within 30 seconds learned that Dude had been told multiple times not to move his hands or whatever. Plus under the influence....

    Oh my sweet Jesus! GTFO of here! It's a huge country with over 300 million people and our time and emotions are being wasted on this?! Bad things happened. It's sad. But don't waste our time on this sh**. Steve's friend, the kid, was even sadder. Whipping up people with an evil vs good fable over sad, but human sh**, is utterly contemptible.
    , @Bill Jones
    cop, of course didn't exist 150 years ago but the country got by,.

    they are merely the brutal incompetent boot of the State.

    The percentage of murders that they "solve" in DC for example is about 50%.
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  28. @Bill Jones
    Cop doesn't make the top twenty most dangerous jobs in America.

    Cop doesn’t make the top twenty most dangerous jobs in America.

    Yes, but that isn’t a winning argument. It is one thing to die or be maimed because the work is dangerous. It is another thing to die or be maimed because of political correctness.

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  29. TGGP says: • Website
    @syonredux

    Before the Civil War, Southern whites held a pathological fear of slave revolts, despite lauding slavery as a “positive good.”
     
    "Pathological?" Dunno. Fear of a slave revolt sounds pretty reasonable to me.....Particularly after the way that rebelling slaves massacred the French population in Haiti:

    The 1804 Haiti massacre was carried out against the remaining white population of native French people and French Creoles (or Franco-Haitians) in Haiti by Haitian soldiers under orders from Jean-Jacques Dessalines, who had decreed that all suspected of conspiring in the acts of the expelled army should be put to death.[1] Throughout the nineteenth century, these events were well known in the United States, where they were called "the horrors of St. Domingo" and they polarized Southern public opinion on the question of the abolition of slavery.[2][3]
    The massacre, which took place throughout Haiti, occurred from early February 1804 until 22 April 1804 and resulted in the deaths of 3,000 to 5,000 men, women, and children.[4]
    Squads of soldiers moved from house to house, torturing and killing entire families.[5] Even whites who had been friendly and sympathetic to the black population were imprisoned and later killed.[6] A second wave of massacres targeted white women and children
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_massacre

    But that little incident seems to have been dropped down the memory hole....

    Scholars see these slave patrols as one forerunner to modern police departments,
     
    Probably not much of a factor in places like Boston.....

    leaving many black Americans in a still-common situation—overpoliced for minor crimes and underpoliced for major ones.
     
    Let you in on a little secret: Cops use minor crimes when they can't convict on major crimes. So, Black guy commits multiple murders, but no one is willing to talk ("Snitches get stitches"). Arrest him on a drug possession/loitering/public drunkenness charge.

    This is still true. Among white Americans there is a strong cognitive connection between black people and crime. “The mere presence of a black man,” note a team of researchers in a 2004 paper, “can trigger thoughts that he is violent and criminal.” The reverse is also true: The connection between blacks and crime is so tight that just thinking about crime—irrespective of environment—triggers thoughts of black people.

     

    Gosh, maybe White people connect Blacks and crime because Blacks are, you know, prone to acts of criminal violence?:

    According to the FBI SHR data, in 2009 there were 6,505 black homicide
    victims in the United States. The homicide rate among black victims in the United
    States was 17.90 per 100,000. For that year, the overall national homicide rate was
    4.76 per 100,000. For whites, the national homicide rate was 2.92 per 100,000.
    Additional information contained in the FBI SHR data on black homicide includes the
    following.
     

    Of the 6,505 black homicide victims, 5,576 (86 percent) were male, and 928
    (14 percent) were female. In one case, the gender of the victim was unknown. The
    homicide rate for black male victims was 32.14 per 100,000. In comparison, the
    overall rate for male homicide victims was 7.57 per 100,000. For white male
    homicide victims it was 4.26 per 100,000. The homicide rate for female black victims
    was 4.89 per 100,000. In comparison, the overall rate for female homicide victims
    was 2.01 per 100,000. For white female homicide victims it was 1.61 per 100,000.

     


    Blacks in the United States are disproportionately affected by homicide. For the
    year 2009, blacks represented 13 percent of the nation’s population, yet accounted
    for 47 percent of all homicide victims.

     

    http://www.vpc.org/studies/blackhomicide12.pdf

    I find it interesting that there were so few slave revolts in America. I know there’s Nat Turner, who recently had that movie, but considering how long we had slavery and how much larger America is, you might expect more. One possibility is that slavery over there had a different character, with a different environment and the focus on sugarcane rather than cotton or tobacco (although I believe there was cane grown in the far south of the US). French colonial government could also be a factor.

    Bouie is indeed being Bouie, but I think it’s a valid point that simply permitting any cop to say they “felt” scared is way too lax a standard. There has to be some kind of justification based on the circumstances.

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    considering how long we had slavery and how much larger America is, you might expect more.

    Considering how much larger America is, and how outnumbered they were here, and how conspicuously different they looked from the main population, and how far they were from home, what good would a slave revolt have done in America? Afterwards, all they could have done was sit around and wait until they all got recaptured and probably killed. Haiti only worked because they really were able to kill all the white people. The slaves in America weren't very likely to hijack a ship back to Africa, you know.

    Bouie is indeed being Bouie, but I think it’s a valid point that simply permitting any cop to say they “felt” scared is way too lax a standard.


    If that was actually true, it would be a valid point, but since that's not what actually happened, it isn't. The guy really did have a gun, and you can hear him say he had a gun, and his own girlfriend admitted that he was reaching around to where his gun was. It's an unfortunate circumstance that the guy was too dumb to know better, and yes, Yanez should have given better commands, but the fact remains, a guy acting shifty around his gun really is a genuinely dangerous situation.
    , @TWS
    If he really just, 'felt scared' you'd have a point. Except he had a gun was high as hell and didn't obey the command to stop when he was reaching for the gun. There were other factors but just that is enough to get you shot.
    , @Anonymous
    Philando Castile was told he was stopped for a burned-out tail light and he (doubtless) relaxed and lowered his guard.

    He was really stopped for being an imaginary armed robber. The cop was acting pretend casual in order to get up close and get the drop on Philando. This was the real and secret motive of the cop.

    Unfortunately, by lulling Philando Castile into a false sense of casualness, routine and normality, the cop did not make it clear that the situation was really "one false move and you are dead." He lured Philando to his death.

    If a policeman walks up to you and casually asks you for a cigarette, and you reach inside your coat, he can shoot you dead. Why? Because he was REALLY stopping you for being a Crazed Killer and therefore feared for his life.
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  30. JohnnyD says:

    Being a liberal must be exhausting. You have to believe these extremely complicated and convoluted explanations, while ignoring the obvious explanation that’s right in front of you.

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    "Being a liberal must be exhausting. You have to believe these extremely complicated and convoluted explanations, while ignoring the obvious explanation that's right in front of you."

    Exactly. When I stopped being a liberal, it was like being set free.
    , @bomag
    Methinks this Slate writer exposits too much.

    His "cloak of fear" litany looks to me like reasonable policies and responses to facts on the ground. He recites them all with an underlying sense that, "yeah, this is all true, but we must go beyond the truth, and get white people to damage themselves in service to the narrative."
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  31. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @IndieRafael
    I read some of the details of this case today, including comments by law enforcement experts. I don't pretend to know all the details, and it's easy to second guess later in the calm of day. But it seems like Castile (the victim) was pretty low-key and did it mostly right, but shouldn't have reached for his wallet at the end. The policeman probably should not have discharged his weapon. Also, once the policeman heard there was a gun in the car, one of the experts suggested that he should have told Castile to keep both hands on the wheel or in plain sight. Finally, the policeman's partner was too casual at first, then didn't back up his partner correctly after shots were fired.

    I’m guessing Mr Castile’s thought processing was affected by recent weed smoking, causing him to presume that the cop could read his mind.

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    Now that Obama legalized it, what's the max permitted THC level while driving?
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  32. WR says:
    @bjdubbs
    OT

    Of the 17 faces on the Slate "Voices" sidebar, 14 of the 17 are Jewish. The exceptions are Jamelle Bouie, John Dickerson, and Dana Stevens. So of the 16 that aren't black, 14/16 are Jewish. It's really kind of remarkable that Slate can run constant SJW coverage while employing a house policy of hiring only Jews with a token white political reporter and a token black political reporter. It's interesting that three of the Slate non-Jews (Stevens, Metcalf, and editor Julia Turner) do a podcast together, apparently sitting by themselves at the non-Jew table in the Slate cafeteria. It's really incredible that despite Dickerson and Bouie being probably the two highest traffic writers at Slate, Slate maintain what one Slate job ad described as "must be a mensch" (they actually said that) hiring policy. To be clear, I don't object to the hiring policy, I object to the obviously self-serving coverage with no admission that it's coming from a Jewish publicatino.

    “Of the 17 faces on the Slate “Voices” sidebar, 14 of the 17 are Jewish.”

    2% of the US population, 82% of writers at Slate. Yet you’re not supposed to notice or mention this. And in all fairness, these (((columnists))) do not represent the views of the majority of American Jews. Oftentimes they are not only anti-white (domestically) and anti-American (globally) but also anti-Israel. Personally, I’m very sympathetic to innocent victims of terrorism in Sredot, Jerusalem or Tel Aviv. My guess is that several of these writers limit their compassion to the Palestinians who kill their co-ethnics in the Middle East.

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    And in all fairness, these (((columnists))) do not represent the views of the majority of American Jews.
     
    Really? How would any goy know?
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  33. @unit472
    We might all agree that if accosted by a gunman the proper response is not to resist or lecture him on your right to be left alone. He holds all the cards so unless you want to risk being shot over your wallet its best to give him what he wants as calmly as possible and hope for the best.

    Now, whatever one may think of a police officer's demeanor or his reason for stopping you, resisting or lecturing him is not going to improve the outcome. He too hold all the cards at least for the moment. He has a name and you will be seen by a judge who will review your case for probable cause if it results in an arrest. There is legal recourse and, if you are black, a sympathetic media to appeal to.

    My guess is that 90% of all problem encounters blacks have with police result from their non cooperation, fleeing or physically resisting the officer.

    Exactly. Same as that asshole who made the cops drag him off that plane in Chicago.
    “Comply now, litigate later.”

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    @TGGP
    I find it interesting that there were so few slave revolts in America. I know there's Nat Turner, who recently had that movie, but considering how long we had slavery and how much larger America is, you might expect more. One possibility is that slavery over there had a different character, with a different environment and the focus on sugarcane rather than cotton or tobacco (although I believe there was cane grown in the far south of the US). French colonial government could also be a factor.

    Bouie is indeed being Bouie, but I think it's a valid point that simply permitting any cop to say they "felt" scared is way too lax a standard. There has to be some kind of justification based on the circumstances.

    considering how long we had slavery and how much larger America is, you might expect more.

    Considering how much larger America is, and how outnumbered they were here, and how conspicuously different they looked from the main population, and how far they were from home, what good would a slave revolt have done in America? Afterwards, all they could have done was sit around and wait until they all got recaptured and probably killed. Haiti only worked because they really were able to kill all the white people. The slaves in America weren’t very likely to hijack a ship back to Africa, you know.

    Bouie is indeed being Bouie, but I think it’s a valid point that simply permitting any cop to say they “felt” scared is way too lax a standard.

    If that was actually true, it would be a valid point, but since that’s not what actually happened, it isn’t. The guy really did have a gun, and you can hear him say he had a gun, and his own girlfriend admitted that he was reaching around to where his gun was. It’s an unfortunate circumstance that the guy was too dumb to know better, and yes, Yanez should have given better commands, but the fact remains, a guy acting shifty around his gun really is a genuinely dangerous situation.

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  35. @utu
    Number of Whites killed by police is the same as number of Blacks when normalized by the number of interactions with police.

    Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police. Poor training, improper rules of engagements, bad attitude, low expectations., acceptance of brutality, impunity. And yes, guns.

    The difference between Back and White killings is that we never hear about the latter. It seems that Blacks care about their own killed by police more than Whites do. One could conclude that Whites are ok with being killed by police. Does it have anything to do with racism and the so called fear of Blacks? Probably but it is not a dominant factor. However, if Blacks were taken out of the equation I can imagine American Whites raising their expectation and demanding to be treated by police like Europeans. Multi-ethnic and multi-cultural society is a perfect vehicle for the rulers to have people diffuse their energy of self-intersts on multi-ethnic strife and end up settling for much less.

    “Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police.”
    How about normalizing that to the rate of encounters with violent negroes?
    Methinks the European cops rarely see such individuals.

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  36. TWS says:
    @TGGP
    I find it interesting that there were so few slave revolts in America. I know there's Nat Turner, who recently had that movie, but considering how long we had slavery and how much larger America is, you might expect more. One possibility is that slavery over there had a different character, with a different environment and the focus on sugarcane rather than cotton or tobacco (although I believe there was cane grown in the far south of the US). French colonial government could also be a factor.

    Bouie is indeed being Bouie, but I think it's a valid point that simply permitting any cop to say they "felt" scared is way too lax a standard. There has to be some kind of justification based on the circumstances.

    If he really just, ‘felt scared’ you’d have a point. Except he had a gun was high as hell and didn’t obey the command to stop when he was reaching for the gun. There were other factors but just that is enough to get you shot.

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  37. anon says: • Disclaimer

    A brown guy kills a black guy and the white race is somehow responsible as with George Zimmerman.

    What a crazy country America is.

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  38. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @JerryC
    Well aware of that. But obviously it's not as simple as telling cops "Your job isn't that dangerous, so don't worry so much about your personal safety". The human instinct for self-preservation isn't so easily defeated.

    I never understood the “Police officer isn’t even one of the twenty most dangerous jobs!” line either.

    I mean, don’t you imagine that the people in those twenty most dangerous jobs get scared pretty frequently too?

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    Not to mention, most of the danger of being a police officer probably occurs within 1% or less of their daily routine - during certain traffic stops and affecting high-risk arrests. The danger of being a logger or coal miner must be pretty well distributed throughout the workday.
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  39. syonredux says:
    @utu
    Number of Whites killed by police is the same as number of Blacks when normalized by the number of interactions with police.

    Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police. Poor training, improper rules of engagements, bad attitude, low expectations., acceptance of brutality, impunity. And yes, guns.

    The difference between Back and White killings is that we never hear about the latter. It seems that Blacks care about their own killed by police more than Whites do. One could conclude that Whites are ok with being killed by police. Does it have anything to do with racism and the so called fear of Blacks? Probably but it is not a dominant factor. However, if Blacks were taken out of the equation I can imagine American Whites raising their expectation and demanding to be treated by police like Europeans. Multi-ethnic and multi-cultural society is a perfect vehicle for the rulers to have people diffuse their energy of self-intersts on multi-ethnic strife and end up settling for much less.

    Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police. Poor training, improper rules of engagements, bad attitude, low expectations., acceptance of brutality, impunity. And yes, guns.

    Another factor: Disparate Impact. High standards = fewer Blacks. Fewer Blacks = Disparate Impact. Disparate Impact= lawsuit……

    For example, Chicago hires randomly from the lists of everybody who passed the extremely easy police-and-fire-applicants written tests. Last December, 17,948 passed Chicago’s fire test and only 2,583 failed. Police hiring in Chicago is similar, which means that thousands of the most promising candidates are skipped over, with only the bottom of the barrel scraped off. How are passing scores determined in the months it takes Chicago to grade its Scantron tests? Nobody seems to know, but an anonymous commenter on Second City Cop hypothesized, “Passing score will be one point below the stupidest guy with clout.”

    In 2010, Chicago floated the idea of becoming the only big city in the country to do away with its police test because it had become so pointless.

    Why do cities engage in such an obviously dysfunctional undertaking as random hiring of police?

    No doubt because random hiring helps facilitate nepotism and corruption; but the public justification is, of course, race.

    Sometimes lowering standards is used as a way to get around having to use a racial quota; other times it’s used to cover up quotas. Philadelphia, for instance, shifted in 1989 from rank-ordering test takers to a lottery among the 85 percent who passed the written exam because:

    Ronald L. Oliver, president of the Guardian Civic League, which represents black police officers, said the change to pass-fail also would erase an unfair stigma sometimes attached to those minority candidates who, because of the consent decrees, were chosen ahead of white applicants who scored higher.

    The inevitable problem with random selection is that cities don’t get the best of each race. Chicago and Philadelphia are letting whites in the bottom 10 percent of the white intelligence distribution get hired. They are not likely to be good decision-makers.

    http://takimag.com/article/how_to_hire_better_cops_steve_sailer/print#ixzz3gbFYsju7

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  40. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Funny that the guy named “Castile” is not the Hispanic in this situation.

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    Not sure that's a Hispanic name, is it? Castle would be Castillo. Castile is actually pronounced kah-steel-ei in Spanish. Sounds French to me. Haitian?
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  41. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @syonredux

    Before the Civil War, Southern whites held a pathological fear of slave revolts, despite lauding slavery as a “positive good.”
     
    "Pathological?" Dunno. Fear of a slave revolt sounds pretty reasonable to me.....Particularly after the way that rebelling slaves massacred the French population in Haiti:

    The 1804 Haiti massacre was carried out against the remaining white population of native French people and French Creoles (or Franco-Haitians) in Haiti by Haitian soldiers under orders from Jean-Jacques Dessalines, who had decreed that all suspected of conspiring in the acts of the expelled army should be put to death.[1] Throughout the nineteenth century, these events were well known in the United States, where they were called "the horrors of St. Domingo" and they polarized Southern public opinion on the question of the abolition of slavery.[2][3]
    The massacre, which took place throughout Haiti, occurred from early February 1804 until 22 April 1804 and resulted in the deaths of 3,000 to 5,000 men, women, and children.[4]
    Squads of soldiers moved from house to house, torturing and killing entire families.[5] Even whites who had been friendly and sympathetic to the black population were imprisoned and later killed.[6] A second wave of massacres targeted white women and children
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_massacre

    But that little incident seems to have been dropped down the memory hole....

    Scholars see these slave patrols as one forerunner to modern police departments,
     
    Probably not much of a factor in places like Boston.....

    leaving many black Americans in a still-common situation—overpoliced for minor crimes and underpoliced for major ones.
     
    Let you in on a little secret: Cops use minor crimes when they can't convict on major crimes. So, Black guy commits multiple murders, but no one is willing to talk ("Snitches get stitches"). Arrest him on a drug possession/loitering/public drunkenness charge.

    This is still true. Among white Americans there is a strong cognitive connection between black people and crime. “The mere presence of a black man,” note a team of researchers in a 2004 paper, “can trigger thoughts that he is violent and criminal.” The reverse is also true: The connection between blacks and crime is so tight that just thinking about crime—irrespective of environment—triggers thoughts of black people.

     

    Gosh, maybe White people connect Blacks and crime because Blacks are, you know, prone to acts of criminal violence?:

    According to the FBI SHR data, in 2009 there were 6,505 black homicide
    victims in the United States. The homicide rate among black victims in the United
    States was 17.90 per 100,000. For that year, the overall national homicide rate was
    4.76 per 100,000. For whites, the national homicide rate was 2.92 per 100,000.
    Additional information contained in the FBI SHR data on black homicide includes the
    following.
     

    Of the 6,505 black homicide victims, 5,576 (86 percent) were male, and 928
    (14 percent) were female. In one case, the gender of the victim was unknown. The
    homicide rate for black male victims was 32.14 per 100,000. In comparison, the
    overall rate for male homicide victims was 7.57 per 100,000. For white male
    homicide victims it was 4.26 per 100,000. The homicide rate for female black victims
    was 4.89 per 100,000. In comparison, the overall rate for female homicide victims
    was 2.01 per 100,000. For white female homicide victims it was 1.61 per 100,000.

     


    Blacks in the United States are disproportionately affected by homicide. For the
    year 2009, blacks represented 13 percent of the nation’s population, yet accounted
    for 47 percent of all homicide victims.

     

    http://www.vpc.org/studies/blackhomicide12.pdf

    Cops use minor crimes when they can’t convict on major crimes.

    Good point. Al Capone, who may have been ultimately responsible for 400 homicides was convicted for tax evasion. It wasn’t sexy but it got him put away.

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  42. @utu
    Number of Whites killed by police is the same as number of Blacks when normalized by the number of interactions with police.

    Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police. Poor training, improper rules of engagements, bad attitude, low expectations., acceptance of brutality, impunity. And yes, guns.

    The difference between Back and White killings is that we never hear about the latter. It seems that Blacks care about their own killed by police more than Whites do. One could conclude that Whites are ok with being killed by police. Does it have anything to do with racism and the so called fear of Blacks? Probably but it is not a dominant factor. However, if Blacks were taken out of the equation I can imagine American Whites raising their expectation and demanding to be treated by police like Europeans. Multi-ethnic and multi-cultural society is a perfect vehicle for the rulers to have people diffuse their energy of self-intersts on multi-ethnic strife and end up settling for much less.

    >However, if Blacks were taken out of the equation I can imagine American Whites raising their expectation and demanding to be treated by police like Europeans.

    Which is why the powers that be are so eager to frame police killings as a racial issue

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  43. Tiny Duck says:

    Yanez was white because he enjoyed the privileges of whiteness in this situation

    Leonard Pitts wrote a great article about how George Zimmerman was white. READ IT. The same analysis applies here.

    Racism was a creation of whites. Other people’s get along very well. It is only whites who cause conflict

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    Leonard Pitts wrote a great article about how George Zimmerman was white. READ IT.
     
    Who is Leonard Pitts?
    , @black sea

    Racism was a creation of whites. Other people’s get along very well. It is only whites who cause conflict
     
    You must be getting paid to do this. Otherwise, I don't know why you'd bother.

    --Leonard Pitts
    , @Hibernian
    You've acquired some sublety, TD. I almost thought it was one of the regulars satirizing the politically correct Leftist perspective, until I looked again and saw your handle.
    , @Anonymous

    Racism was a creation of whites. Other people’s get along very well. It is only whites who cause conflict.
     
    And that's really the crazy thing, isn't? Millions of black, brown and yellow people flood Europe and the United States every year knowing full well that they are moving from safe, loving, nurturing countries all across Asia, Africa, and the Americas to living, breathing, racist hellholes like France, Germany, Sweden, Italy, Australia, and the USA.

    Wow. Go figure.

    What we desperately need is a million Tiny Ducks standing at the border shouting, "Go Back! Run for your lives!"
    , @El Dato

    Racism was a creation of whites. Other people’s get along very well. It is only whites who cause conflict
     
    This message must be coming from the inner sanctum of some kind of mind-washing cult of the Colored Ones.

    Or maybe the orderly brings carefully whitened newspaper and "helps" in accessing the Internet?
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  44. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Jamelle “Baba” Bouie was completely humiliated in the 2016 election season with his ridiculous series of articles for slate. One day trump was a nazi, the next he was a moderate, then the next day he was crowing about how whites were not needed and they would be crushed with the new govt coalition that obama had permanently created. Of course, after hillary lost jamelle had to go back and delete tons of embarassing tweets. Michael Tracey did a great job of highlighting this, and also pointing out how the tv networks still chose to pick the same pundits who were incredibly wrong to ask what would happen next.

    This article should be taken just about as seriously as his belief that white people aren’t needed for dems to win national elections. He is one racist nerd completely obsessed with white people.

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  45. Yanez is a white Hispanic.

    Therefore it is white people’s fault.

    Makes sense if you’re a SJW — or just plain crazy.

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  46. fish says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Yanez was white because he enjoyed the privileges of whiteness in this situation

    Leonard Pitts wrote a great article about how George Zimmerman was white. READ IT. The same analysis applies here.

    Racism was a creation of whites. Other people's get along very well. It is only whites who cause conflict

    Leonard Pitts wrote a great article about how George Zimmerman was white. READ IT.

    Who is Leonard Pitts?

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  47. black sea says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Yanez was white because he enjoyed the privileges of whiteness in this situation

    Leonard Pitts wrote a great article about how George Zimmerman was white. READ IT. The same analysis applies here.

    Racism was a creation of whites. Other people's get along very well. It is only whites who cause conflict

    Racism was a creation of whites. Other people’s get along very well. It is only whites who cause conflict

    You must be getting paid to do this. Otherwise, I don’t know why you’d bother.

    –Leonard Pitts

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    It's more fun if you view his posts as a sort of puzzle. I have an idea called the leftie completeness theorem. It states that "for every coherent left wing argument, there exists another coherent left wing argument which completely falsifies it." The leftie worldview can address any problem, but it's also perfectly inconsistent.

    In that light, Tiny Duck's posts become more of an intriguing challenge. It can be fun teasing officially anointed arguments out of the leftie mind fog that completely invalidate others.

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  48. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The officer was Chinese according to the videographer.

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  49. Steve King called out for white privilege in committee hearing after dropping hate fact:

    https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/1602255913139226/

    Rep. King is easily the most entertaining member of congress right now.

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  50. @syonredux

    Emphasis mine.

    Words not mentioned once in this article about the acquittal of Jeronimo Yanez: “Hispanic” or “Latino.”
     
    Don't be un-Woke, Steve. Whenever a POC cop kills a Black man, he/she is simply acting as the White Man's instrument. A Latinx held the gun, but White Society pulled the trigger.

    Correct. This is one of the corollaries of “minorities have no agency.”

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  51. Dahlia says:
    @JerryC
    Well aware of that. But obviously it's not as simple as telling cops "Your job isn't that dangerous, so don't worry so much about your personal safety". The human instinct for self-preservation isn't so easily defeated.

    “The human instinct for self-preservation isn’t so easily defeated.”

    Two things I learned a long time ago: 1. true crime documentaries trying to get someone off/on are sh** 2. Public outcries for justice over innocent black guy gunned down by evil man always turn out to be sh**.
    (The same mindset is a sucker for both.)

    So, I avoided learning about this case. Then, the cuckservatives started making noise. Then some more noise. Then, one meekly said he disagreed with “everybody”. Finally, I got curious…. Within 30 seconds learned that Dude had been told multiple times not to move his hands or whatever. Plus under the influence….

    Oh my sweet Jesus! GTFO of here! It’s a huge country with over 300 million people and our time and emotions are being wasted on this?! Bad things happened. It’s sad. But don’t waste our time on this sh**. Steve’s friend, the kid, was even sadder. Whipping up people with an evil vs good fable over sad, but human sh**, is utterly contemptible.

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  52. @syonredux

    Before the Civil War, Southern whites held a pathological fear of slave revolts, despite lauding slavery as a “positive good.”
     
    "Pathological?" Dunno. Fear of a slave revolt sounds pretty reasonable to me.....Particularly after the way that rebelling slaves massacred the French population in Haiti:

    The 1804 Haiti massacre was carried out against the remaining white population of native French people and French Creoles (or Franco-Haitians) in Haiti by Haitian soldiers under orders from Jean-Jacques Dessalines, who had decreed that all suspected of conspiring in the acts of the expelled army should be put to death.[1] Throughout the nineteenth century, these events were well known in the United States, where they were called "the horrors of St. Domingo" and they polarized Southern public opinion on the question of the abolition of slavery.[2][3]
    The massacre, which took place throughout Haiti, occurred from early February 1804 until 22 April 1804 and resulted in the deaths of 3,000 to 5,000 men, women, and children.[4]
    Squads of soldiers moved from house to house, torturing and killing entire families.[5] Even whites who had been friendly and sympathetic to the black population were imprisoned and later killed.[6] A second wave of massacres targeted white women and children
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_massacre

    But that little incident seems to have been dropped down the memory hole....

    Scholars see these slave patrols as one forerunner to modern police departments,
     
    Probably not much of a factor in places like Boston.....

    leaving many black Americans in a still-common situation—overpoliced for minor crimes and underpoliced for major ones.
     
    Let you in on a little secret: Cops use minor crimes when they can't convict on major crimes. So, Black guy commits multiple murders, but no one is willing to talk ("Snitches get stitches"). Arrest him on a drug possession/loitering/public drunkenness charge.

    This is still true. Among white Americans there is a strong cognitive connection between black people and crime. “The mere presence of a black man,” note a team of researchers in a 2004 paper, “can trigger thoughts that he is violent and criminal.” The reverse is also true: The connection between blacks and crime is so tight that just thinking about crime—irrespective of environment—triggers thoughts of black people.

     

    Gosh, maybe White people connect Blacks and crime because Blacks are, you know, prone to acts of criminal violence?:

    According to the FBI SHR data, in 2009 there were 6,505 black homicide
    victims in the United States. The homicide rate among black victims in the United
    States was 17.90 per 100,000. For that year, the overall national homicide rate was
    4.76 per 100,000. For whites, the national homicide rate was 2.92 per 100,000.
    Additional information contained in the FBI SHR data on black homicide includes the
    following.
     

    Of the 6,505 black homicide victims, 5,576 (86 percent) were male, and 928
    (14 percent) were female. In one case, the gender of the victim was unknown. The
    homicide rate for black male victims was 32.14 per 100,000. In comparison, the
    overall rate for male homicide victims was 7.57 per 100,000. For white male
    homicide victims it was 4.26 per 100,000. The homicide rate for female black victims
    was 4.89 per 100,000. In comparison, the overall rate for female homicide victims
    was 2.01 per 100,000. For white female homicide victims it was 1.61 per 100,000.

     


    Blacks in the United States are disproportionately affected by homicide. For the
    year 2009, blacks represented 13 percent of the nation’s population, yet accounted
    for 47 percent of all homicide victims.

     

    http://www.vpc.org/studies/blackhomicide12.pdf

    At the time of the Haitian rebellion, Haiti was primarily engaged in sugar production. Sugar production as practiced in the Carribean then was incredibly grueling and typically killed the slaves within 5-10 years, more or less. Which is why they had to constantly bring in fresh slaves. It’s what the gulags would have been if Russia had the climate for sugar. Hard to blame a slave being worked to death in that system for feeling justified in killing the whites who had been running it that way for generations. And any reasonable white in that system surely suspected that they had made a pact with the devil that might one day produce an expensive bill.

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    It’s what the gulags would have been if Russia had the climate for sugar. Hard to blame a slave being worked to death in that system for feeling justified in killing the whites who had been running it

     

    As usual, when ever Sailer posts and article containing the word "White" the antijapethites show up in force in the comments. You even get a few "gas the crackers, race war now!" southern povertiers.

    While Whites may have been overrepresented amongst slave owners, there were blacks who owned slaves too. Toussaint L'Ouverture owned a coffee plantation worked by slaves. A plantation with slaves is very expensive that only the most successful in society can afford. If you consider that Whites were overrepresented in all important positions in Haitian society, you would also expect them to be overrepresented amongst slave owners as well.

    Slave ownership was originally a part of black culture in Africa. When Whites came in contact with Africa, they assimilated their culture and started owning slaves.

    Black women wanted to be slaves so they could have access to sexy plantation owners. Black women hate hate hate Black beta males.

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  53. @anon
    I never understood the "Police officer isn't even one of the twenty most dangerous jobs!" line either.

    I mean, don't you imagine that the people in those twenty most dangerous jobs get scared pretty frequently too?

    Not to mention, most of the danger of being a police officer probably occurs within 1% or less of their daily routine – during certain traffic stops and affecting high-risk arrests. The danger of being a logger or coal miner must be pretty well distributed throughout the workday.

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  54. @Anon
    Funny that the guy named "Castile" is not the Hispanic in this situation.

    Not sure that’s a Hispanic name, is it? Castle would be Castillo. Castile is actually pronounced kah-steel-ei in Spanish. Sounds French to me. Haitian?

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    I was thinking of the Five Kingdoms, of which Castile was the most important, hence why Spanish can also be called Castellano; it would have been "Castilla" in Spanish, and would probably show up in a name as "de Castilla". Castile is the English form, Castille the French, though I think historically they were interchangeable. Other Spanish forms are also prevalent ("Castiella" for example), I wouldn't be surprised if there was a "de Castile" out there somewhere.
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  55. El Dato says:
    @fnn

    Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police. Poor training, improper rules of engagements, bad attitude, low expectations., acceptance of brutality, impunity.
     
    US police shoot too often, but European police need to able to shoot more often:
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-18/germany-police-powerless-against-middle-eastern-crime-gangs

    A court in Hanover has handed suspended sentences to six members of a Kurdish clan who seriously wounded two dozen police officers during a violent rampage in Hameln. The court's ruling was greeted with anger and derision by police who said it is yet another example of the laxity of Germany's politically correct judicial system.

    The case goes back to January 2014, when a 26-year-old clan member, arrested for robbery, tried to escape from the magistrate's office by jumping out of a seventh-floor courtroom window. The suspect was taken to the hospital, where he died. Members of his clan subsequently ransacked the hospital, as well as the court, and attacked police with rocks and other projectiles; 24 police officers and six paramedics were injured.

    The judge said he was lenient because the defendants witnessed the death of the 26-year-old and were traumatized. The judge also revealed that he had reached a deal with the clan, which among other effects prevented police from testifying in court.

    Dietmar Schilff, chairman of the GdP police union in Lower Saxony, said that the ruling had left many police officers shaking their heads in disbelief: "All police forces expect protection and support from the state." He added:

    "If we want to protect those who ensure public security, it must be clear that anyone who attacks police officers attacks the state — and has to fear appropriate consequences. It does not matter from which milieu the perpetrators come."
    Observers have surmised that the real reason for the judge's leniency was that he feared his family might be subjected to retribution from the clan.

    Middle Eastern crime syndicates have established themselves across Germany, where they engage in racketeering, extortion, money laundering, pimping and trafficking in humans, weapons and drugs.

    The syndicates, which are run by large clans with origins in Lebanon, Turkey, Syria, among other places, operate with virtual impunity because German judges and prosecutors are unable or unwilling to stop them.

    The clans — some of which migrated to Germany during Lebanon's 1975-1990 civil war and have grown to thousands of members — now control large swathes of German cities and towns — areas that are effectively lawless and which German police increasingly fear to approach.

    Ralph Ghadban, a Lebanese-German political scientist and a leading expert on Middle Eastern clans in Germany, said that the Hanover ruling was a massive failure of the German judicial system. He added that the only way for Germany to achieve control over the clans is to destroy them:

    "In their concept of masculinity, only power and force matter; if someone is humane and civil, this is considered a weakness. In clan structures, in tribal culture everywhere in the world, ethics are confined to the clan itself. Everything outside the clan is enemy territory."
    In an interview with Focus, Ghadban elaborated:

    "I have been following this trend for years. The clans now feel so strong that they are attacking the authority of the state and the police. They have nothing but contempt for the judiciary.... The main problem in dealing with clans: state institutions give no resistance. This makes the families more and more aggressive — they simply have no respect for the authorities....
     

    Plus, the mom of the deceased parkour-attempting window exiteer has 8 kids (now 7).

    In France, this kind of hospital-ransacking because of extreme emotional distress occurs with culturally diverse “Roma” gangs.

    I wonder what would happen in Lebanon. I hear Hezbollah has the situation in hand over there.

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  56. @black sea

    Racism was a creation of whites. Other people’s get along very well. It is only whites who cause conflict
     
    You must be getting paid to do this. Otherwise, I don't know why you'd bother.

    --Leonard Pitts

    It’s more fun if you view his posts as a sort of puzzle. I have an idea called the leftie completeness theorem. It states that “for every coherent left wing argument, there exists another coherent left wing argument which completely falsifies it.” The leftie worldview can address any problem, but it’s also perfectly inconsistent.

    In that light, Tiny Duck’s posts become more of an intriguing challenge. It can be fun teasing officially anointed arguments out of the leftie mind fog that completely invalidate others.

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  57. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Negrolphin Pool
    Not sure that's a Hispanic name, is it? Castle would be Castillo. Castile is actually pronounced kah-steel-ei in Spanish. Sounds French to me. Haitian?

    I was thinking of the Five Kingdoms, of which Castile was the most important, hence why Spanish can also be called Castellano; it would have been “Castilla” in Spanish, and would probably show up in a name as “de Castilla”. Castile is the English form, Castille the French, though I think historically they were interchangeable. Other Spanish forms are also prevalent (“Castiella” for example), I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a “de Castile” out there somewhere.

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    The lispy version of Spanish they speak in Spain is still referred to in English as Castilian too.
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  58. MBlanc46 says:

    Our property, our livelihoods, even our lives depend on not encountering a violent black.

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  59. Pericles says:
    @syonredux

    Emphasis mine.

    Words not mentioned once in this article about the acquittal of Jeronimo Yanez: “Hispanic” or “Latino.”
     
    Don't be un-Woke, Steve. Whenever a POC cop kills a Black man, he/she is simply acting as the White Man's instrument. A Latinx held the gun, but White Society pulled the trigger.

    Jeronimo Yanez, honorary White. It’s like joining a gang, you have to kill someone to get in.

    That reminds me, Trump or Sessions or someone could now take the opportunity to break out the Latinx category from Whites when it comes to crime.

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    That reminds me, Trump or Sessions or someone could now take the opportunity to break out the Latinx category from Whites when it comes to crime.

    That actually happened two or three years ago, but from what I've seen, they're still counted as "white", but just white with an ethnicity of "Hispanic". Which is better than it used to be, but what they really need to do is create the racial category of "mestizo".

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  60. Pericles says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    Mr Bouie has my solemn promise that should he attempt an "escape" to another land, he will encounter absolutely no resistance from me.

    These stops, as researchers Charles Epp, Steven Maynard-Moody, and Donald Haider-Markel describe
     
    Five surnames for just three guys? On this side of the ocean? (Or Rio Grande, for that matter.)

    And I thought "metrosexuality" had run its course.

    I nourish a quiet hope that Steven Maynard-Moody and Donald Haider-Markel will tie the knot.

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    I nourish a quiet hope that Steven Maynard-Moody and Donald Haider-Markel will tie the knot
     
    I don't want to think about Markel's boner.
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  61. Pericles says:
    @fnn

    Police in America kills at 50-70 times higher rate than European police. Poor training, improper rules of engagements, bad attitude, low expectations., acceptance of brutality, impunity.
     
    US police shoot too often, but European police need to able to shoot more often:
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-18/germany-police-powerless-against-middle-eastern-crime-gangs

    A court in Hanover has handed suspended sentences to six members of a Kurdish clan who seriously wounded two dozen police officers during a violent rampage in Hameln. The court's ruling was greeted with anger and derision by police who said it is yet another example of the laxity of Germany's politically correct judicial system.

    The case goes back to January 2014, when a 26-year-old clan member, arrested for robbery, tried to escape from the magistrate's office by jumping out of a seventh-floor courtroom window. The suspect was taken to the hospital, where he died. Members of his clan subsequently ransacked the hospital, as well as the court, and attacked police with rocks and other projectiles; 24 police officers and six paramedics were injured.

    The judge said he was lenient because the defendants witnessed the death of the 26-year-old and were traumatized. The judge also revealed that he had reached a deal with the clan, which among other effects prevented police from testifying in court.

    Dietmar Schilff, chairman of the GdP police union in Lower Saxony, said that the ruling had left many police officers shaking their heads in disbelief: "All police forces expect protection and support from the state." He added:

    "If we want to protect those who ensure public security, it must be clear that anyone who attacks police officers attacks the state — and has to fear appropriate consequences. It does not matter from which milieu the perpetrators come."
    Observers have surmised that the real reason for the judge's leniency was that he feared his family might be subjected to retribution from the clan.

    Middle Eastern crime syndicates have established themselves across Germany, where they engage in racketeering, extortion, money laundering, pimping and trafficking in humans, weapons and drugs.

    The syndicates, which are run by large clans with origins in Lebanon, Turkey, Syria, among other places, operate with virtual impunity because German judges and prosecutors are unable or unwilling to stop them.

    The clans — some of which migrated to Germany during Lebanon's 1975-1990 civil war and have grown to thousands of members — now control large swathes of German cities and towns — areas that are effectively lawless and which German police increasingly fear to approach.

    Ralph Ghadban, a Lebanese-German political scientist and a leading expert on Middle Eastern clans in Germany, said that the Hanover ruling was a massive failure of the German judicial system. He added that the only way for Germany to achieve control over the clans is to destroy them:

    "In their concept of masculinity, only power and force matter; if someone is humane and civil, this is considered a weakness. In clan structures, in tribal culture everywhere in the world, ethics are confined to the clan itself. Everything outside the clan is enemy territory."
    In an interview with Focus, Ghadban elaborated:

    "I have been following this trend for years. The clans now feel so strong that they are attacking the authority of the state and the police. They have nothing but contempt for the judiciary.... The main problem in dealing with clans: state institutions give no resistance. This makes the families more and more aggressive — they simply have no respect for the authorities....
     

    The judge said he was lenient because the defendants witnessed the death of the 26-year-old and were traumatized. The judge also revealed that he had reached a deal with the clan, which among other effects prevented police from testifying in court.

    Observers have surmised that the real reason for the judge’s leniency was that he feared his family might be subjected to retribution from the clan.

    Jawdropping. Welcome to the future you chose, white men.

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  62. Pericles says:
    @anon
    And can David French just join MSNBC? I’m tired of his liberal views & anti-police attitude posing as a “True Conservative”.

    David French is such a tool he was actually forced out of the headlines by Evan McMullin. Imagine what that feels like.

    Thunderdome. Two egg heads enter, one comes out.

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  63. Pericles says:
    @anon
    I'm guessing Mr Castile's thought processing was affected by recent weed smoking, causing him to presume that the cop could read his mind.

    Now that Obama legalized it, what’s the max permitted THC level while driving?

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    Obama legalized marijuana? Wow, I need to read the papers more often!
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  64. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Pericles
    Jeronimo Yanez, honorary White. It's like joining a gang, you have to kill someone to get in.

    That reminds me, Trump or Sessions or someone could now take the opportunity to break out the Latinx category from Whites when it comes to crime.

    That reminds me, Trump or Sessions or someone could now take the opportunity to break out the Latinx category from Whites when it comes to crime.

    That actually happened two or three years ago, but from what I’ve seen, they’re still counted as “white”, but just white with an ethnicity of “Hispanic”. Which is better than it used to be, but what they really need to do is create the racial category of “mestizo”.

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  65. wow, for a bunch of iconoclastic, non-mainstream, eclectic, supposedly logic-based, uber-rational types who never tire of clapping themselves on the back for their incisive analysis, there sure are a LOT of reflexive cop-suckers here…
    .
    i don’t care WHAT your color or socio-economic class or ethnicity is, kops are NOT your friends; they are the front line goons of Empire, and don’t you forget it, civilian ! ! !
    .
    (of course, IF you do happen to be poorer, or darker, or stupider, will the pigs jack you up at a much greater rate and with more -hmmm- gusto ? ? ? fuck yeah, don’t be daft, punk…)
    .
    UNLESS you ARE an authoritarian puke who is a twue bewiever in Empire, kops have little/to nothing to do with serving and protecting us 99%, and everything to do with maintaining the status quo of Empire…

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    Do you feel better, having gotten that off your chest?
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  66. Officer Yanez’s white partner seemed to be quite relaxed as he stood on the opposite side of the car, until the shooting started.

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  67. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Leave it to Slate to make sweeping generalities out of a single event.

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  68. Hibernian says:
    @WorkingClass
    Jeronimo is a scaredy cat and an idiot. Would it be too much to ask that he be taken off the streets? He was acquitted because police state.

    The Village of St. Anthony is bound and determined that he will not return to its streets, at least as a cop.

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  69. Hibernian says:
    @Bill Jones
    Cop doesn't make the top twenty most dangerous jobs in America.

    I wonder what the statistics would be like if you broke out separately Mayberry RFD type departments, those in places like Chicago, and those that are somewhere in between.

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  70. Hibernian says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Yanez was white because he enjoyed the privileges of whiteness in this situation

    Leonard Pitts wrote a great article about how George Zimmerman was white. READ IT. The same analysis applies here.

    Racism was a creation of whites. Other people's get along very well. It is only whites who cause conflict

    You’ve acquired some sublety, TD. I almost thought it was one of the regulars satirizing the politically correct Leftist perspective, until I looked again and saw your handle.

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  71. @JohnnyD
    Being a liberal must be exhausting. You have to believe these extremely complicated and convoluted explanations, while ignoring the obvious explanation that's right in front of you.

    “Being a liberal must be exhausting. You have to believe these extremely complicated and convoluted explanations, while ignoring the obvious explanation that’s right in front of you.”

    Exactly. When I stopped being a liberal, it was like being set free.

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  72. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @TGGP
    I find it interesting that there were so few slave revolts in America. I know there's Nat Turner, who recently had that movie, but considering how long we had slavery and how much larger America is, you might expect more. One possibility is that slavery over there had a different character, with a different environment and the focus on sugarcane rather than cotton or tobacco (although I believe there was cane grown in the far south of the US). French colonial government could also be a factor.

    Bouie is indeed being Bouie, but I think it's a valid point that simply permitting any cop to say they "felt" scared is way too lax a standard. There has to be some kind of justification based on the circumstances.

    Philando Castile was told he was stopped for a burned-out tail light and he (doubtless) relaxed and lowered his guard.

    He was really stopped for being an imaginary armed robber. The cop was acting pretend casual in order to get up close and get the drop on Philando. This was the real and secret motive of the cop.

    Unfortunately, by lulling Philando Castile into a false sense of casualness, routine and normality, the cop did not make it clear that the situation was really “one false move and you are dead.” He lured Philando to his death.

    If a policeman walks up to you and casually asks you for a cigarette, and you reach inside your coat, he can shoot you dead. Why? Because he was REALLY stopping you for being a Crazed Killer and therefore feared for his life.

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    If a policeman walks up to you and casually asks you for a cigarette, and you reach inside your coat, he can shoot you dead. Why? Because he was REALLY stopping you for being a Crazed Killer and therefore feared for his life.

    Good heavens! I bet you can find me lots of examples of this happening too, right?
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  73. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @WR
    "Of the 17 faces on the Slate “Voices” sidebar, 14 of the 17 are Jewish."

    2% of the US population, 82% of writers at Slate. Yet you're not supposed to notice or mention this. And in all fairness, these (((columnists))) do not represent the views of the majority of American Jews. Oftentimes they are not only anti-white (domestically) and anti-American (globally) but also anti-Israel. Personally, I'm very sympathetic to innocent victims of terrorism in Sredot, Jerusalem or Tel Aviv. My guess is that several of these writers limit their compassion to the Palestinians who kill their co-ethnics in the Middle East.

    And in all fairness, these (((columnists))) do not represent the views of the majority of American Jews.

    Really? How would any goy know?

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  74. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Tiny Duck
    Yanez was white because he enjoyed the privileges of whiteness in this situation

    Leonard Pitts wrote a great article about how George Zimmerman was white. READ IT. The same analysis applies here.

    Racism was a creation of whites. Other people's get along very well. It is only whites who cause conflict

    Racism was a creation of whites. Other people’s get along very well. It is only whites who cause conflict.

    And that’s really the crazy thing, isn’t? Millions of black, brown and yellow people flood Europe and the United States every year knowing full well that they are moving from safe, loving, nurturing countries all across Asia, Africa, and the Americas to living, breathing, racist hellholes like France, Germany, Sweden, Italy, Australia, and the USA.

    Wow. Go figure.

    What we desperately need is a million Tiny Ducks standing at the border shouting, “Go Back! Run for your lives!”

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  75. …patrols, made up of white men in the community, who would enforce slave codes, with legal authority to capture runaways, interrogate enslaved people, and punish them if necessary. Scholars see these slave patrols as one forerunner to modern police departments, “the first uniquely American form of policing,” writes Katheryn Russell-Brown…

    Yes, so uniquely American that they had virtually identical institutions in Cuba, Haiti, Barbados, Jamaica, Trinidad, Brazil, and doubtless several other Western Hemispheric locations during the same era.

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  76. El Dato says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Yanez was white because he enjoyed the privileges of whiteness in this situation

    Leonard Pitts wrote a great article about how George Zimmerman was white. READ IT. The same analysis applies here.

    Racism was a creation of whites. Other people's get along very well. It is only whites who cause conflict

    Racism was a creation of whites. Other people’s get along very well. It is only whites who cause conflict

    This message must be coming from the inner sanctum of some kind of mind-washing cult of the Colored Ones.

    Or maybe the orderly brings carefully whitened newspaper and “helps” in accessing the Internet?

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  77. @Steve Sailer
    But Slate has gotten boring since they stopped only having smart Jewish male Michael Kinsley clones as editor and hired a gentile woman. It appears to be doing pretty well financially under Ms. Turner, but to my tastes these days it's mostly dull girl stuff.

    But Slate has gotten boring since they stopped only having smart Jewish male Michael Kinsley clones as editor and hired a gentile woman. It appears to be doing pretty well financially under Ms. Turner, but to my tastes these days it’s mostly dull girl stuff.

    I think the way it works, is after a 30-year old woman completes her A.A. degree (in some frivolous topic) at her local community college, she also graduates from Buzzfeed, to, like, super highbrow material such as Slate and Salon.

    I’m so old, I remember when Slate was worth reading. That was a largely 20th century phenomenon, admittedly.

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  78. @WorkingClass
    Jeronimo is a scaredy cat and an idiot. Would it be too much to ask that he be taken off the streets? He was acquitted because police state.

    Jeronimo is a scaredy cat and an idiot. Would it be too much to ask that he be taken off the streets? He was acquitted because police state.

    He obviously shouldn’t be a cop, but I see no purpose served in carting him off to prison. In that context, I am glad he was acquitted. I’d’ve been OK with a manslaughter conviction, if it resulted in ten years probation. But it would have resulted in a term in prison, and incompetent, cowardly, not-overly-bright cops should be fired, not incarcerated.

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  79. @Pericles
    Now that Obama legalized it, what's the max permitted THC level while driving?

    Now that Obama legalized it, what’s the max permitted THC level while driving?

    Obama legalized marijuana? Wow, I need to read the papers more often!

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    Obama legalized marijuana? Wow, I need to read the papers more often!

     

    Not just smoke'em, amirite? Pass it around, man! Eh well, I was actually thinking of Colorado and the mysterious missing hand of FEDGOV and its Choom Master.
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  80. @oddsbodkins
    At the time of the Haitian rebellion, Haiti was primarily engaged in sugar production. Sugar production as practiced in the Carribean then was incredibly grueling and typically killed the slaves within 5-10 years, more or less. Which is why they had to constantly bring in fresh slaves. It's what the gulags would have been if Russia had the climate for sugar. Hard to blame a slave being worked to death in that system for feeling justified in killing the whites who had been running it that way for generations. And any reasonable white in that system surely suspected that they had made a pact with the devil that might one day produce an expensive bill.

    It’s what the gulags would have been if Russia had the climate for sugar. Hard to blame a slave being worked to death in that system for feeling justified in killing the whites who had been running it

    As usual, when ever Sailer posts and article containing the word “White” the antijapethites show up in force in the comments. You even get a few “gas the crackers, race war now!” southern povertiers.

    While Whites may have been overrepresented amongst slave owners, there were blacks who owned slaves too. Toussaint L’Ouverture owned a coffee plantation worked by slaves. A plantation with slaves is very expensive that only the most successful in society can afford. If you consider that Whites were overrepresented in all important positions in Haitian society, you would also expect them to be overrepresented amongst slave owners as well.

    Slave ownership was originally a part of black culture in Africa. When Whites came in contact with Africa, they assimilated their culture and started owning slaves.

    Black women wanted to be slaves so they could have access to sexy plantation owners. Black women hate hate hate Black beta males.

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  81. @Anon
    I was thinking of the Five Kingdoms, of which Castile was the most important, hence why Spanish can also be called Castellano; it would have been "Castilla" in Spanish, and would probably show up in a name as "de Castilla". Castile is the English form, Castille the French, though I think historically they were interchangeable. Other Spanish forms are also prevalent ("Castiella" for example), I wouldn't be surprised if there was a "de Castile" out there somewhere.

    The lispy version of Spanish they speak in Spain is still referred to in English as Castilian too.

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  82. llulua says:

    You could here it coming from down the street…a car booming out music(?), “Nigga’ gotta fuck, Nigga’ gonna fuck you…”

    Moments later, a white car, with 20″ wagon wheels, drove into the Kangaroo gas station and made a few circles around the pumps before deciding to stop next to two white ladies who were chatting as they pumped gas.

    A muscular young black man got out of the car, but left the obnoxious and disgusting ‘music’ running for everyone’s enjoyment. One of the senior white ladies asked him to shut it off. Ignoring and smirking, he just strode inside the store…knowing he had accomplished his intent.

    Palm Coast, FL
    2130H, 22 Jun 17

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  83. @Pericles
    I nourish a quiet hope that Steven Maynard-Moody and Donald Haider-Markel will tie the knot.

    I nourish a quiet hope that Steven Maynard-Moody and Donald Haider-Markel will tie the knot

    I don’t want to think about Markel’s boner.

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  84. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @art guerrilla
    wow, for a bunch of iconoclastic, non-mainstream, eclectic, supposedly logic-based, uber-rational types who never tire of clapping themselves on the back for their incisive analysis, there sure are a LOT of reflexive cop-suckers here...
    .
    i don't care WHAT your color or socio-economic class or ethnicity is, kops are NOT your friends; they are the front line goons of Empire, and don't you forget it, civilian ! ! !
    .
    (of course, IF you do happen to be poorer, or darker, or stupider, will the pigs jack you up at a much greater rate and with more -hmmm- gusto ? ? ? fuck yeah, don't be daft, punk...)
    .
    UNLESS you ARE an authoritarian puke who is a twue bewiever in Empire, kops have little/to nothing to do with serving and protecting us 99%, and everything to do with maintaining the status quo of Empire...

    Do you feel better, having gotten that off your chest?

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  85. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Philando Castile was told he was stopped for a burned-out tail light and he (doubtless) relaxed and lowered his guard.

    He was really stopped for being an imaginary armed robber. The cop was acting pretend casual in order to get up close and get the drop on Philando. This was the real and secret motive of the cop.

    Unfortunately, by lulling Philando Castile into a false sense of casualness, routine and normality, the cop did not make it clear that the situation was really "one false move and you are dead." He lured Philando to his death.

    If a policeman walks up to you and casually asks you for a cigarette, and you reach inside your coat, he can shoot you dead. Why? Because he was REALLY stopping you for being a Crazed Killer and therefore feared for his life.

    If a policeman walks up to you and casually asks you for a cigarette, and you reach inside your coat, he can shoot you dead. Why? Because he was REALLY stopping you for being a Crazed Killer and therefore feared for his life.

    Good heavens! I bet you can find me lots of examples of this happening too, right?

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  86. Pericles says:
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Now that Obama legalized it, what’s the max permitted THC level while driving?
     
    Obama legalized marijuana? Wow, I need to read the papers more often!

    Obama legalized marijuana? Wow, I need to read the papers more often!

    Not just smoke’em, amirite? Pass it around, man! Eh well, I was actually thinking of Colorado and the mysterious missing hand of FEDGOV and its Choom Master.

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  87. bomag says:
    @JohnnyD
    Being a liberal must be exhausting. You have to believe these extremely complicated and convoluted explanations, while ignoring the obvious explanation that's right in front of you.

    Methinks this Slate writer exposits too much.

    His “cloak of fear” litany looks to me like reasonable policies and responses to facts on the ground. He recites them all with an underlying sense that, “yeah, this is all true, but we must go beyond the truth, and get white people to damage themselves in service to the narrative.”

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  88. gruhn says:
    @syonredux

    Before the Civil War, Southern whites held a pathological fear of slave revolts, despite lauding slavery as a “positive good.”
     
    "Pathological?" Dunno. Fear of a slave revolt sounds pretty reasonable to me.....Particularly after the way that rebelling slaves massacred the French population in Haiti:

    The 1804 Haiti massacre was carried out against the remaining white population of native French people and French Creoles (or Franco-Haitians) in Haiti by Haitian soldiers under orders from Jean-Jacques Dessalines, who had decreed that all suspected of conspiring in the acts of the expelled army should be put to death.[1] Throughout the nineteenth century, these events were well known in the United States, where they were called "the horrors of St. Domingo" and they polarized Southern public opinion on the question of the abolition of slavery.[2][3]
    The massacre, which took place throughout Haiti, occurred from early February 1804 until 22 April 1804 and resulted in the deaths of 3,000 to 5,000 men, women, and children.[4]
    Squads of soldiers moved from house to house, torturing and killing entire families.[5] Even whites who had been friendly and sympathetic to the black population were imprisoned and later killed.[6] A second wave of massacres targeted white women and children
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_massacre

    But that little incident seems to have been dropped down the memory hole....

    Scholars see these slave patrols as one forerunner to modern police departments,
     
    Probably not much of a factor in places like Boston.....

    leaving many black Americans in a still-common situation—overpoliced for minor crimes and underpoliced for major ones.
     
    Let you in on a little secret: Cops use minor crimes when they can't convict on major crimes. So, Black guy commits multiple murders, but no one is willing to talk ("Snitches get stitches"). Arrest him on a drug possession/loitering/public drunkenness charge.

    This is still true. Among white Americans there is a strong cognitive connection between black people and crime. “The mere presence of a black man,” note a team of researchers in a 2004 paper, “can trigger thoughts that he is violent and criminal.” The reverse is also true: The connection between blacks and crime is so tight that just thinking about crime—irrespective of environment—triggers thoughts of black people.

     

    Gosh, maybe White people connect Blacks and crime because Blacks are, you know, prone to acts of criminal violence?:

    According to the FBI SHR data, in 2009 there were 6,505 black homicide
    victims in the United States. The homicide rate among black victims in the United
    States was 17.90 per 100,000. For that year, the overall national homicide rate was
    4.76 per 100,000. For whites, the national homicide rate was 2.92 per 100,000.
    Additional information contained in the FBI SHR data on black homicide includes the
    following.
     

    Of the 6,505 black homicide victims, 5,576 (86 percent) were male, and 928
    (14 percent) were female. In one case, the gender of the victim was unknown. The
    homicide rate for black male victims was 32.14 per 100,000. In comparison, the
    overall rate for male homicide victims was 7.57 per 100,000. For white male
    homicide victims it was 4.26 per 100,000. The homicide rate for female black victims
    was 4.89 per 100,000. In comparison, the overall rate for female homicide victims
    was 2.01 per 100,000. For white female homicide victims it was 1.61 per 100,000.

     


    Blacks in the United States are disproportionately affected by homicide. For the
    year 2009, blacks represented 13 percent of the nation’s population, yet accounted
    for 47 percent of all homicide victims.

     

    http://www.vpc.org/studies/blackhomicide12.pdf

    Probably not much of a factor in places like Boston…..

    White men in uniforms have been shooting black men in Boston since at least 1770.

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    Well aware of that. But obviously it's not as simple as telling cops "Your job isn't that dangerous, so don't worry so much about your personal safety". The human instinct for self-preservation isn't so easily defeated.

    cop, of course didn’t exist 150 years ago but the country got by,.

    they are merely the brutal incompetent boot of the State.

    The percentage of murders that they “solve” in DC for example is about 50%.

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