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A New Warsaw Pact

Trump’s speech in Poland defending “Western civilization” from its enemies sounded less like Reagan’s Cold War–era speeches than white nationalist rhetoric.

By Jamelle Bouie

… Trump hammered home this idea in a subsequent line. “The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive,” said the president, before posing a series of questions: “Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost? Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders?”

… But it’s clear Trump has something else in mind: immigration. …

Poland can’t be allowed to be Polish.

You might think that after all the Polish people have gone through since 1795, we could allow an exception in the case of Poland.

But, no, any mercy would be racist. Warsaw must be turned into Detroit in order to crush white nationalism.

Likewise, the prosaic warning that unnamed “forces” will sap the West of its will to defend itself recalls Bannon’s frequent references to the Camp of the Saints, an obscure French novel from 1973 that depicts a weak and tolerant Europe unable to defend itself from a flotilla of impoverished Indians …

You see, there was this evil novel back in 1973 that pretty accurately predicted what Chancellor Merkel would choose to do in 2015. Being right about the future is wrong. Making accurate predictions is bad. As punishment for spawning one novelist who was so vile as to grasp the future Europe was headed toward, we must make sure this dystopia comes true. Because you deserve it for being so despicable as to understand our intentions toward you.

For as much as parts of Trump’s speech fit comfortably in a larger tradition of presidential rhetoric, these passages are clear allusions to ideas and ideologies with wide currency on the white nationalist right. …

“What we have, what we inherited from our—and you know this better than anybody, and you see it today with this incredible group of people—what we’ve inherited from our ancestors has never existed to this extent before. And if we fail to preserve it, it will never, ever exist again.”

Those lines fit comfortably into a long history of white nationalist rhetoric.

Also conservationist / environmentalist / biodiversity rhetoric. Of course there was much overlap between, say, the founders of the National Park System and the opponents of unlimited immigration. The concepts of “stewardship” and “sustainability” are important links.

 
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  1. ANON says: • Disclaimer

    According to Saker’s latest rant, Trump should never have gone to Poland because Saker doesn’t like Poland. Poland bad, Russia good says Saker in every article he writes.

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    Saker and Karlin are both extreme Russian
    nationalists, especially Saker. Visiting their
    forums is like entering Dante's Seventh Circle
    of Hell - endemic lack of civility. And then people
    wonder why Russia is so dysfunctional , e.g. homicide
    rate twice that of the United States, high rates of
    alcoholism, HIV, drug addiction, short life expectancy,
    etc.

    For Russia, going from the Russian Empire of the late
    19th century to the Soviet Union of the 1920s was
    a step down. Going from the Soviet Union to Russia
    of , say 2005 (though oil was way over $100 per barrel)
    was another step down. Proceeding to Russia of today when
    oil is only $45 per barrel and the country is besieged
    by sanctions is still another step down. We have a case
    of wounded pride. Russian self-confidence rises and
    falls with the price of oil. Annexing Crimea provided
    a short-lived dopamine rush but that's gone now.
    Back in the 2000s Russians were everywhere on the social
    media. Then they suddenly disappeared when the price of
    oil collapsed, and they could no longer afford vacations
    in Western Europe. But their oligarchs can - hence the
    recent demonstrations against corruption in high places.
    , @El Dato
    It's The Saker.

    You have to leave some, you have to take some.
    , @Eagle Eye
    The Saker provides a highly intelligent perspective from an openly and honestly Russia-centric perspective. This does mean that he detests the Marches (aka the Ukraine) and takes a Russia-centric view of other neighboring polities such as Poland and three Baltic Dwarfs.

    One may of course disagree with The Saker on numerous points and indeed on his general worldview.

    What is undeniable is that the Saker provides a calm port of call amidst the gales of coordinated MSM lies and distortions aimed at triggering a hot war with Russia. In this, he is almost alone even in the Alternative Media landscape, and WHOLLY without equal among America's Presstitute Class.

    The most amazing point is that anyone who actually LISTENED to Hillary Clinton's campaign rhetoric would have noticed blatant dog whistles in support of the braying for blood and gold by the Military-Industrial-Media Complex. As Yogi Berra almost said, you can hear a lot by listening.

    For all his faults and compromises, President Trump is at most a 33% champion of the War Party where Hillary and her entourage (particularly the rabid, unmoored women) were 150% pro-war, pro-murder of working class whites, and of course pro-war profiteering and kickbacks for themselves and their well-connected friends with pizza and Blue Beard proclivities.

    , @Judah Benjamin Hur
    I'm not going to get into a Russia vs. Poland argument, but there are a few fascinating stats to mention.

    Homicide rate per 100,000 inhabitants:


    Russia 11.31
    Poland 0.74

    That's a stunning difference.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    (If you really want to get freaked out, look at the Central American stats and think about how many are bringing their violence to the USA.)
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  2. Dahlia says:

    Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today. I’m always embarrassed for the other journalists when they retweet him because it means they’re all about to follow him down some really stupid path. It’s like they impose a Stop Think upon themselves when Bouie begins to reeeeeee!

    I think he was one of the first, or the first, to go into histrionics about Trump’s speech. And of course this has turned out embarrassing for all of them. They say to never interfere when your enemy is destroying themselves, but they forgot to tell us that the spectacle would be so painful to watch.

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    • Replies: @Clyde

    Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today. I’m always embarrassed for the other journalists when they retweet him...
     
    All these bush league social justice warriors are boring dullards, it is only a matter of degree. It is a pathetic situation for this pathetic under 30 crowd.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Dahlia, Bouie wrote the Slate article..."There is no such thing as a good Trump voter," so can't expect him to be objective.
    , @David In TN
    "Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today."

    And that takes some doing.
    , @Tiny Duck
    Huh?

    Progressives are winning on pretty much every front. You need to venture outside your echo chamber once in awhile.

    Bouie is a well respected journalist. Only a weirdo would think his analysis unworthy.

    Most people here are lonely old white men so I wouldn't. Expect youse to get beer stand the ascendant new majority
    , @oddsbodkins
    "Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today."

    I thought this title had been awarded to William Kristol.
    , @Boudica-Judaica

    Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today.
     
    Not at all. Bouie is a shameless, self-aware cynic, from my reading, playing the careerist game of click-bait journalism. He has a good grasp on the power of tribalism, especially that shown by his white leftist readers, to whose prejudices and blindspots he panders.

    When not writing about race, as he once did, he displayed a solid knowledge of history, sociology, and politics beyond the navel of black America (which other black journalists in his niche seldom demonstrate).

    In fact I've always imagined that at some point in his early career interacting with Teh-Genius Coates as a supposed mentor, Bouie had to realize what an ignorant and intellectually-limited man America's Greatest Public Intellectual™ is.
  3. whorefinder says: • Website

    Slate morphed into Salon so slowly I didn’t even notice!

    No, seriously. I did notice years ago they were going there; I stopped reading them in probably 2004 or 05, when they 90% lefty propaganda opinion pieces.

    The Grahams, that WASP-Jewish clan, having sold the Post, are now freed of any pretense of presenting anything more than opinion/commentary, are running wild in Slate attacking the Irish-Italian-Scots-Irish interlopers who dare challenge them for political and social power, using any brown, yellow, or black group as a weapon against them.

    Everything old is new again. Including identity politics.

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    • Replies: @Art Deco
    The Grahams, that WASP-Jewish clan, having sold the Post, are now freed of any pretense of presenting anything more than opinion/commentary, are running wild in Slate attacking the Irish-Italian-Scots-Irish interlopers who dare challenge them for political and social power, using any brown, yellow, or black group as a weapon against them.

    The Graham media properties are collected in a holding company run by Donald Graham's son-in-law, Timothy O'Shaughnessy.

    The other member of the 4th generation to have run family businesses is Katherine Weymouth. Katherine Weymouth's supply of Jewish great-grandparents totals precisely one (1), a man who attended Yale and inter-married. Her 1 WASP grandparent was born into an unremarkable family in the Dakotas which later migrated to South Florida and made good in real estate (you know, like Elizabeth and Fred Trump).

    , @Charles Pewitt

    The Grahams, that WASP-Jewish clan, having sold the Post, are now freed of any pretense of presenting anything more than opinion/commentary, are running wild in Slate attacking the Irish-Italian-Scots-Irish interlopers who dare challenge them for political and social power, using any brown, yellow, or black group as a weapon against them.

     

    Italian? Got it, about 1900 New York.

    Irish? Got it, about 1748 North Carolina.

    Scotch-Irish? Got it, about 1786 Maryland.

    Add in the English that got here earlier, and the French, and the German, and other blood and what we got is a White Core American.

    The WASPs and Jews that run the American Empire are weak and getting weaker. The trouble is that these creatures will force there to be bloodshed in the United States. These WASPs and Jews that are the core of the American Empire's ruling class will not give up their power without a fight.

    My biggest concern is the command and control of the nuclear weaponry arsenal of the American Empire when Civil War II fully breaks out. I hope both sides -- the ruling class pushing globalization and White Core Americans supporting patriotism -- can come to some agreement about the disposition of the nuclear weapons.

    President Trump has repeatedly stated that nuclear weapons are in the arsenal of the American Empire and the United States is fully prepared to deploy them. President Trump has also strongly stated that the avoidance of nuclear war is one of the most important roles for any president of the United States.
    , @goofy
    I have noticed this began over 100 years ago and has been destructively waging war on the american people for at least that long. Thank you for pointing out the 'evil doers'.
  4. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    There’s an interesting inversion in the reactions to Trump’s speech. Usually, the left tries to goad the right into saying something that’s going to get them into trouble. Trump has managed to goad the left into defining themselves against Western civilization as it has been historically constituted.

    It’s really quite amazing.

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    • Replies: @Nico
    Between Slate and CNN I'm thinking the mass media meltdown is of a longevity that investing in popcorn futures has real potential.
    , @whorefinder
    Trump's ability to mess with the media in real time is so amazingly precise and brilliant that I'm betting historians, political scientists, and psychologists of the future will devote multi-volume tomes to it.

    I don't want to overshoot and claim he's Caesar-like in playing at a whole 'nother level than his opponents (especially with the Shakespearean tragedy implication that brings), but...

    Trump's really reminding me of Caesar in his ability to not only anticipate his political opponents' next moves, but being able to anticipate the political landscape for the next generation and altering his tactics so that he can force his political opponents to make errors against themselves that will only make them look stupider in the future.

    It sounds like hyperbole, but quite frankly I'm believing it. Trump's that freakin' good.

    , @Crawfurdmuir

    Trump has managed to goad the left into defining themselves against Western civilization as it has been historically constituted.
     
    The left has been against it all along. Their views have been evident for years to those that were paying attention. If Trump has forced them to be even more candid, so much the better.
    , @hhsiii
    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.

    Nothing Trump said excluded blacks from the western tradition. All of these things have been lauded in history textbooks, and not without nuance, since I was in grade school at least and I'm in my 50s. But Bouie and his ilk want to drive out any vestige of patriotism and pride. Rather than say look at how far we have advanced with the best part of our traditions they want to dwell on the worst aspects of history and blame human fallibility solely on "the west".

    It's funny, too, because Beinert's article Steve quoted talks of how Japan isn't part of Trump's western civilization. Of course they are Asian (and are fairly race concious), but one of the west's great achievements was taking a war enemy and making it part of the western alliance. I grew up during the Cold War and always thought of Japan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan as part of the western alliance. Sure, racially distinct and with their own traditions. He keeps going on about how this place is east of the west etc. well, duh, it's a globe, every place is east of everywhere else. He's the one displaying anachronistic thinking. Indeed, the west has a cultural home in classical civilization as kept alive in Europe and spread from there. And the benefits have been great. Trump is talking about the western intellectual and cultural benefits. Each nation and peoples can enjoy them as they see fit and adapt them to their cultures. dissolving borders means forcing cultures on others or destroying a culture, and destroys one of the great freedoms: freedom of assembly.
    , @Rod1963
    The Left has always been against Western Civilization. Even as far back as the 40's it was there. But in the last 30 or so years it's become quite overt.

    Remember the war on Christmas and public displays? I do, our city back in the early 70's used to have public displays of wreaths on the city boulevard and other items to celebrate Christmas, it was big in the schools as well.

    Then it vanished along with city prayer breakfasts. All thanks to the ACLU and ADL.

    In 1947 via a court ruling they excised religion(Christianity) out of public schools. That was their first move.

    The thing is we've been attacked for so long, we don't even notice all the shit the Left is doing to us.

  5. A few rhetorical flourishes aside, I completely agree with the Slate article. I think the author has grasped the situation pretty well, from the opposition’s standpoint. My deepest hope is that the Warsaw speech marks a radical and astounding turning point in history.

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  6. Nico says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    There's an interesting inversion in the reactions to Trump's speech. Usually, the left tries to goad the right into saying something that's going to get them into trouble. Trump has managed to goad the left into defining themselves against Western civilization as it has been historically constituted.

    It's really quite amazing.

    Between Slate and CNN I’m thinking the mass media meltdown is of a longevity that investing in popcorn futures has real potential.

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  7. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Dave Pinsen
    There's an interesting inversion in the reactions to Trump's speech. Usually, the left tries to goad the right into saying something that's going to get them into trouble. Trump has managed to goad the left into defining themselves against Western civilization as it has been historically constituted.

    It's really quite amazing.

    Trump’s ability to mess with the media in real time is so amazingly precise and brilliant that I’m betting historians, political scientists, and psychologists of the future will devote multi-volume tomes to it.

    I don’t want to overshoot and claim he’s Caesar-like in playing at a whole ‘nother level than his opponents (especially with the Shakespearean tragedy implication that brings), but…

    Trump’s really reminding me of Caesar in his ability to not only anticipate his political opponents’ next moves, but being able to anticipate the political landscape for the next generation and altering his tactics so that he can force his political opponents to make errors against themselves that will only make them look stupider in the future.

    It sounds like hyperbole, but quite frankly I’m believing it. Trump’s that freakin’ good.

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    • Replies: @CK
    He has spent close to 50 years outthinking political and business opponents in his other successful careers. Outthinking the current scriveners of the press has proven much easier.
    , @Beckow
    Maybe he is that good. Although a lot of these themes have been sitting around for a generation without anyone willing to pick them up seriously.

    But why

    "Caesar-like Shakespearean tragedy"
     
    Ceasar had nothing to do with Shakespeare who lived 1,600 years later and only wrote about the tragedy, as did many others. His tragedy was his own in his own time. Is this a subtle attempt to appropriate Ceasar for the Anglo culture? Maybe that's why Italians keep the back-door to Europe open for the migrants.
    , @MB
    No. All Drumpf is doing at least some of the time is stating the obvious. Which is all you got to do with these morons to make them flip out.
    , @Clyde

    Trump’s ability to mess with the media in real time is so amazingly precise and brilliant that I’m betting historians, political scientists, and psychologists of the future will devote multi-volume tomes to it.
    It sounds like hyperbole, but quite frankly I’m believing it. Trump’s that freakin’ good.
     
    Trump is not a one man show. Steve Bannon and other staff strategize on these anti-media hi-jinx and are having some good laughs and giggles. Sarah Huckabee Sanders too? It is called disruption. My take at least.
    , @Jack Hanson
    I agree with you. Which makes it more amazing when the commenters in niche blogs that Trump made mainstream have the arrogance to comment about how stupid/foolish Trump is.

    Trump is inside his enemy's OODA loop and their own ideology is making it impossible for him to be dislodged.
  8. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Nothing wrong with ‘white nationalism’ in a white nation like Poland.

    I mean… nothing wrong with black nationalism in black African nation.

    White Nationalism is wrong in non-white nation.

    It’s like German nationalism is fine on German soil. Problem with WWII was it spread its power to Polish soil and then Russian soil.

    So, it’s ‘where, when’. When a people are Where they belong, in their homeland, they can have their nationalism.

    Problem of globalism is it is essentially Jewish nationalism uber non-Jewish nations.

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    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Do you consider the countries of the Anglosphere to be white or non-white nations?
    , @Judah Benjamin Hur
    If that's really true, why can't Jews have an f-ing bigger country by now! World domination ought to mean something more than owning a bunch of Facebook shares.
  9. Beckow says:

    …And if we fail to preserve it, it will never, ever exist again.”

    Bouie and Slate don’t want to preserve anything, they hate it, they want it gone. They are in a proud tradition of Jacobins and Bolsheviks – they want a different world, with different people, a different calendar, different everything.

    As all lunatic visionaries they scream that it is simply inevitable, that there is no alternative. They refuse to discuss specific facts, or think through consequences, another sign of an utopian delusion that we have seen in the past. For example, how would it work with 7-10 billion people and ‘open borders’? Would we all eventually end-up speaking a kind of pidgin English since complexity cannot survive in a global melting pot? Apart from inflating real estate in the West and providing an unlimited supply of cheap labor, how would this help the economy? Or help most people?

    The reason they don’t want to think it through – as communists refused to think through how one would have an economy or even a concept of work after abolishing money – is that they are not interested in a viable society or civilization, all they want is to destroy what they hate, what we still partially have today. The labels they apply to all who disagree are there to cover up the emotional hatred that is driving them. So any discussion is almost impossible, as with all unhinged utopians. They don’t want what we have to ‘exist’, Trump is never going to convince them. This is a who-whom moment.

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    • Agree: SMK
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Many would read Bouie and read no intent to destroy and remake society, only a call for the West to live up to its own ideals. If the West has ever been racist, or shown some kind of ethnic chauvinism, or had borders, well, that's just the West not living up to its own ideals, they think.

    How did they manage to get so many ordinary, older, educated but not particularly intellectual, and not at all revolutionary types, who think that Western society as it stands so far is pretty good, to believe that there's no reason the rest of the world can't be invited to join in, that Western values and mass non-Western immigration are compatible -- perhaps even that the former are so awe-inspiring as to compel assimilation into them -- and it's racist (and therefore a failure to live up to Western ideals) to believe otherwise?

    , @bomag

    The labels they apply to all who disagree are there to cover up the emotional hatred that is driving them.
     
    Yeah, Bouie takes for granted that any whiff of nationalism from non-POC has been accepted by one and all as complete evil, so all he has to do is point it out, and a thundering herd of shock troops will descend and stamp it out.

    Note here that Bouie et al carefully and gleefully track the demise of YT through immigration and demographics. Initially, they will tell us about the economic boon we will be getting from the new peoples; but soon enough the mask comes off and they chortle at the punishment being meted out for all the past sins committed by the "wrong" people.

    , @MBlanc46
    What they hate. For example, Lenin spitting venom when referring to the monuments of the London that gave him refuge. It's their hatred of the actual world that keeps them going.
  10. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    White Nationalist or just plain Nationalist?

    Isn’t Trump for national sovereignty for All nations?

    Or, does Slate have a problem ONLY with nationalism among whites because whites, as the ‘most evolved’ and ‘most progressive’ people, are supposed to be above and beyond all such ‘tribal’ mentalities in favor of truly noble stuff like… worshiping homosexuals and trannies and promoting rap music and comic book movies.

    Ironically, the anti-white ideology of white ‘progressives’ is really a repressed form of neo-supremacism.
    It’s as if the most advanced people are to have ‘evolved’ to globalism, homo worship, and anti-nationalism.

    But nationalism is more tolerable among non-whites because they are inferior and less evolved.

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  11. Well- honestly- it was a pretty white nationalist speech.

    All Western forms of political organization are implicitly white. Capitalism, communism, social democracy, Christian democracy, all assume, implicitly, whether their advocates will admit it or not, the presence of a mostly white, European population. They will all kind of work with a white (or maybe NE Asian) population.

    None will work with a MENA/African/South Asian population. These populations have their own kinds of organization, but they don’t function anything like Europeans think a society should function.

    The most troublesome of these is Islam. Chinese civilization has worked or not worked on its own terms for millenia, as has South Asian civilization. Islam is a predatory, parasitic system that has taken over and lived off of various hosts throughout its history, but was mostly contained and stable by the 19th century. It began a new stage of predation and vampirism in the last few decades, which without further action will result in Europe being consumed and turned into a place like the Middle East in a century or so.

    The Brazilification of the US is a different situation but again a European country cannot be maintained without Europeans. A European elite maintaining fitful, sporadic control over a Amerindian underclass is not a European country.

    Maintaining Western- read European- civilization requires maintaining a European population. We have come to the point where we can no longer pretend this is not true. A “multicultural” nation has to be mostly white, and with a cooperative non-white population, to work.

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    • Agree: reiner Tor, Anonym
    • Replies: @Desiderius

    Well- honestly- it was a pretty white nationalist speech.
     
    But not exclusively white.

    The choice for the West is to either ally with the ancestral peoples of the Western lands or with deracinated globalist empire.

    The globalists seem determined to make the choice an easy one.
  12. @Dave Pinsen
    There's an interesting inversion in the reactions to Trump's speech. Usually, the left tries to goad the right into saying something that's going to get them into trouble. Trump has managed to goad the left into defining themselves against Western civilization as it has been historically constituted.

    It's really quite amazing.

    Trump has managed to goad the left into defining themselves against Western civilization as it has been historically constituted.

    The left has been against it all along. Their views have been evident for years to those that were paying attention. If Trump has forced them to be even more candid, so much the better.

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    • Agree: ben tillman, TWS, Ivy
    • Replies: @Thea
    Yep! Jesse Jackson chanted "hey hey, ho ho Western Civ has got to go" at Stanford in the 1990s.
  13. Thomas says:

    Bouie is even good enough to link to the Haaretz “Poland bad because they didn’t like the Jews either” piece to explain why Poland has to abolish itself à la Germany.

    If anything is going to see Trump succeed, it might be the degree to which Trump Derangement among the left forces them to reflexively attack anything he stands for or speaks in favor of and defend anything that opposes Trump and the Deplorables. This week, it’s been defending doxxing, jihad (Linda Sarsour), and attacking “the West.” Even (or especially) the cuck National Review is eating up the Poland speech. Bouie shows how serious this derangement has gone, because the only way you read Trump’s invocation of “the West” as categorically different from Reagan or Kennedy’s similar speeches is by drinking Cult Marx Kool-Aid that only has much of a following on the far left.

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    • Replies: @Eagle Eye
    The logical next step is to turn the tables on the Cult Marxist and flip some of their favorite memes:

    (1) Opposing self-determination for Poland, Hungary and Austria away from Euro-cooption is RAAYYCISS and National Socialist.

    (This is literally true, of course.)

    (2) Importing Third-Worlders from Mexico and elsewhere is RAAYYCISS because it deprives those vibrant societies of the benefit of their footloose inverted elites.

    (3) Flooding the U.S. with ilegales throws native U.S. blacks under the bus.
    , @candid_observer
    I've been getting convinced that the left has now been sucked into the black hole of its own ideology. It's now gone past the point of no return. There's something about identity politics that, over time, reaches a logical end point -- absurd though it be -- from which there is no psychological escape. Practical matters of negative political impact can no longer dissuade its adherents from the embrace of its fundamentalist tenets and their application to each and every situation that may arise.

    This is why Hillary Clinton (unlike her husband in an earlier era) couldn't get a hair's breadth of distance between herself and the most extreme immigration activists or BLM advocates. Nor do I see national Democrats managing to cleave such a separation for years to come.

    This makes them easy targets to destroy, of course. I think a good deal of Trump's success comes from tossing about spikes which cause leftists to explode from their own internal pressures when they run into them.

    , @Anon
    99% of Jewish leftism is based on 'Still Wanting to Punish the White West for Nazi Germany,' and nothing more than that. Everything else is an excuse. Jews really, really, don't want blacks or Mexicans or radical Muslims in their own neighborhoods or schools. But they hate it when you point this out. Self-conscious hypocracy makes leftists very screechy.
  14. hhsiii says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    There's an interesting inversion in the reactions to Trump's speech. Usually, the left tries to goad the right into saying something that's going to get them into trouble. Trump has managed to goad the left into defining themselves against Western civilization as it has been historically constituted.

    It's really quite amazing.

    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.

    Nothing Trump said excluded blacks from the western tradition. All of these things have been lauded in history textbooks, and not without nuance, since I was in grade school at least and I’m in my 50s. But Bouie and his ilk want to drive out any vestige of patriotism and pride. Rather than say look at how far we have advanced with the best part of our traditions they want to dwell on the worst aspects of history and blame human fallibility solely on “the west”.

    It’s funny, too, because Beinert’s article Steve quoted talks of how Japan isn’t part of Trump’s western civilization. Of course they are Asian (and are fairly race concious), but one of the west’s great achievements was taking a war enemy and making it part of the western alliance. I grew up during the Cold War and always thought of Japan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan as part of the western alliance. Sure, racially distinct and with their own traditions. He keeps going on about how this place is east of the west etc. well, duh, it’s a globe, every place is east of everywhere else. He’s the one displaying anachronistic thinking. Indeed, the west has a cultural home in classical civilization as kept alive in Europe and spread from there. And the benefits have been great. Trump is talking about the western intellectual and cultural benefits. Each nation and peoples can enjoy them as they see fit and adapt them to their cultures. dissolving borders means forcing cultures on others or destroying a culture, and destroys one of the great freedoms: freedom of assembly.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The extremism of the centrists these days is remarkable: e.g., Poland can't be allowed to be Polish. Poland must be driven down a path toward Warsaw and Krakow looking like Detroit in the name of fighting racism.
    , @Thomas

    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.
     
    White America will be waiting past the Second Coming for its own mystical redeemer: the Grateful Negro. Even Obama couldn't sell that. He articulated exactly how racially-conscious blacks (even half-white ones) feel, at best, about Western civilization in his time in Paris recounted in "Dreams From My Father": "It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine." At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    hsiii, The American blacks who have taken advantage of what America has to offer, such as free education, have done better than the vast majority of Africans still on that continent. There were a few radicalized Native Americans that I worked with, but the vast majority knew that Western culture brought them out of the near stone age.
    , @anonymous
    Beinert described "The West" as based upon race and religion. He knows better than that, but because it was Trump's speech, his knee had to twitch and jerk. Bouie is not even a third-rate version of Beinert, nevertheless the emphasis remains the same: Western culture = racism, xenophobia, homophobia, Islamophobia etc., etc. ad nauseum. The entire civilized world is to one degree or another a product of Western culture but...never mind.
    , @3g4me
    @15 hssiii: You make the classic error of conflating Western intellectual and cultural benefits as universal, to be "enjoy{ed} . . . and adapt{ed}" to various non-Western cultures. Those Western benefits are the product of Western people - specifically, White, Christian Western people. They are the product of a particular confluence of genetics, geography, and religion. When adapted by others, they are no longer particularly Western.

    That adaptation takes many forms - as an example, Chinese "Christians" here in America routinely paint their front doors red, hang Chinese good-luck charms from their rear-view mirrors, and follow the precepts of feng shui. And no, those are not the equivalent to ancient Western superstitions about black cats or Friday the 13th, which are noted more in ironic reflex than any genuine belief. Ask a Chinese Christian to live in a home antithetical to his "good luck" precepts and he will be profoundly and continually uncomfortable.

    Western Christianity is just that - distinctly Western. Again, a product of a particular people. It can be and has been adapted, and the fundamental values are supposed to be the same, but the cultural influences are profound {see Faith and Heritage's series on ethno-christology}.

    As you note, Japan is both racially distinct and yet part of the Western political alliance. But that in no way makes Japanese culture particularly "Western." Japan has adapted a Western garment forced upon it and made it distinctly its own - politically and culturally. The differences between the US and Japan are profound, but do not preclude our being political allies. And that alliance is disturbed by too close contact - witness every time a usually Negro member of our military occupying part of their territory rapes and murders local Japanese woman. Then the locals want all Americans - Negro or not - OUT. And why not? It's their country.

    American Negroes have, again as you note, been the beneficiaries of our Western values, particularly via the outlawing of slavery by White Christian Great Britain. Slavery did not originate with Whites, it was never limited to Whites, and it never ended with Whites. It existed throughout the ages and cultures and is still practiced today in parts of Asia and Africa. That some tiny fraction of Negroes have adapted well and thrived in what is, for them, an alien environment and culture, in no way negates that it is still alien to their natural and genetic norm. A Thomas Sowell and legal integration of the armed forces does not equal Detroit, Baltimore, or countless other cities and White lives destroyed. So no, Negroes are most definite excluded from Western tradition.

    Merely because something can be and was freely shared does not make it universal in any sense. Western civilization is the product of Western White people, the Greek-Roman heritage, and Christianity Each is necessary but individually insufficient. No other combination results in Western civilization, but something different. No necessarily all bad or unworkable to each different culture and society, but still not Western civilization.

  15. Anon 2 says:
    @ANON
    According to Saker's latest rant, Trump should never have gone to Poland because Saker doesn't like Poland. Poland bad, Russia good says Saker in every article he writes.

    Saker and Karlin are both extreme Russian
    nationalists, especially Saker. Visiting their
    forums is like entering Dante’s Seventh Circle
    of Hell – endemic lack of civility. And then people
    wonder why Russia is so dysfunctional , e.g. homicide
    rate twice that of the United States, high rates of
    alcoholism, HIV, drug addiction, short life expectancy,
    etc.

    For Russia, going from the Russian Empire of the late
    19th century to the Soviet Union of the 1920s was
    a step down. Going from the Soviet Union to Russia
    of , say 2005 (though oil was way over $100 per barrel)
    was another step down. Proceeding to Russia of today when
    oil is only $45 per barrel and the country is besieged
    by sanctions is still another step down. We have a case
    of wounded pride. Russian self-confidence rises and
    falls with the price of oil. Annexing Crimea provided
    a short-lived dopamine rush but that’s gone now.
    Back in the 2000s Russians were everywhere on the social
    media. Then they suddenly disappeared when the price of
    oil collapsed, and they could no longer afford vacations
    in Western Europe. But their oligarchs can – hence the
    recent demonstrations against corruption in high places.

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    @ anon2 from a different anon1

    Russia has recovered remarkably from their sanctions and oil price induced recession.

    This is a big topic. But consider Russian agriculture. It is booming and now the world's largest exporter of grain.

    I found their economic performance surprising. It was the result of the devaluation of the Ruble by roughly 50%, the decline in oil prices, and sanctions related import restrictions.

    Basically, everything an economy *wants* to do to grow was done. Devaluation of your currency is a form of mercantilism. It helps your industries and hurts global competitors. It is roughly equivalent to tariffs.

    GDP has largely recovered from pre sanctions levels. Oil is a far smaller part of Russia's economy.
    , @neutral
    I get you are a neocon and that you want Russia to become another "ally" of the USA (and lets all be sincere here, we all know exactly what the word ally implies). I want to go beyond this debate however, I want to know what your end goal is here, I want to know what kind of ideal world you envisage, because those that reject your camp of the saints "invade the world, invite the world" can really not see it as anything other than dystopian.
    , @Anon
    "And then people wonder why Russia is so dysfunctional , e.g. HIV, ...etc."


    Whaaaaht? I thought St. Vlad had created a No Homo paradise!
  16. @hhsiii
    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.

    Nothing Trump said excluded blacks from the western tradition. All of these things have been lauded in history textbooks, and not without nuance, since I was in grade school at least and I'm in my 50s. But Bouie and his ilk want to drive out any vestige of patriotism and pride. Rather than say look at how far we have advanced with the best part of our traditions they want to dwell on the worst aspects of history and blame human fallibility solely on "the west".

    It's funny, too, because Beinert's article Steve quoted talks of how Japan isn't part of Trump's western civilization. Of course they are Asian (and are fairly race concious), but one of the west's great achievements was taking a war enemy and making it part of the western alliance. I grew up during the Cold War and always thought of Japan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan as part of the western alliance. Sure, racially distinct and with their own traditions. He keeps going on about how this place is east of the west etc. well, duh, it's a globe, every place is east of everywhere else. He's the one displaying anachronistic thinking. Indeed, the west has a cultural home in classical civilization as kept alive in Europe and spread from there. And the benefits have been great. Trump is talking about the western intellectual and cultural benefits. Each nation and peoples can enjoy them as they see fit and adapt them to their cultures. dissolving borders means forcing cultures on others or destroying a culture, and destroys one of the great freedoms: freedom of assembly.

    The extremism of the centrists these days is remarkable: e.g., Poland can’t be allowed to be Polish. Poland must be driven down a path toward Warsaw and Krakow looking like Detroit in the name of fighting racism.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Ironically, a large portion of the 1900 - 1970 Detroit population was ethnically Polish in origin.
    , @Anonymous
    Anyone, absolutely anyone, with a brain - who happens to hold a position of authority - must, or at least should - recognise and realise the sheer utter and absolute unmitigated disaster that was visited upon the United States of America by virtue of the fact of importing a mass subsaharan African origin population, and strive to do anything and everything in his power to prevent the same - inevitable - cataclysmic disaster being visited upon his own motherland.
    , @Anon7
    No, not like Detroit... but close. How about Hamtramck, Michigan? In 1970, the town was 90% Polish; that's where you went to get real pączki on Fat Tuesday.


    Many of those former Polish residents still flock back here each week for the Polish language Mass at St. Florian Roman Catholic Church. It's a majestic neo-Gothic structure, with beautiful stained-glass windows and an elaborate turquoise spire that rises high above Poland Street.

    The Hamtramck they knew had changed. "It's now more like a Bangladeshi town, so, that's a different story," says Fidler. "Seems like, you know, they were basically taking over."

    That loss of identity can be uncomfortable. St. Florian's priest, Miroslaw Frankowski, recalls his first impression of this city when he arrived in Hamtramck about 10 years ago.

    "I'm almost like in Cairo," he says, "because you know, the call for the prayer — and people covered up under clothings typical for Middle East. Yeah, it seemed like I'm working in Middle East."

    In Hamtramck streets, it's common now to see women fully veiled, with only their eyes exposed. The amplified Muslim call to prayer was a source of controversy here some years back, and still can raise hackles...

    Salah Hadwan, 27, takes us inside to meet his family, and right away, his mother is brewing tea for us and his brothers get busy ordering takeout Yemeni food for lunch.

    On the refrigerator, right next to Arabic script reading "God is the greatest," there's a red, white and blue oval sticker printed with two words: "I voted."

    Hadwan suggests that their diverse city should serve as a model. He says, "I wish there was a mini-Hamtramck in every state."

    http://www.npr.org/2017/03/28/519017217/hamtramck-michigan-an-evolving-city-of-immigrants

     

    , @Stealth
    I think envy on the part of those "centrist" elites is part of the problem. They sold out in every way you can think of (cucked, I guess), and now they're being put to shame by Eastern Europeans who are actually doing their own thing.

    Our system seems to be set up so that only desperate status-seeking conformists will ever get the chance to become part of the managerial class. These are people who have likely never stood up for themselves in any situation where doing so might result in some kind of loss. It paid off handsomely for them, but they have no dignity whatsoever. I'm sure they resent anyone who took a different approach to life.

    , @Jake
    That is how the Left, in America, the WASP Elite Left of Boston Brahmins and PA Quakers, has always been. Isn't that what Reconstruction was really about? You Scots-Irish rednecks and hillbillies cannot even be allowed to have your own poor areas that we Yankee WASP Elites will run from Boston, New York, Philadelphia, and DC. No, we must make certain the Numinous Negro, our beloved pet, reigns over you in your own towns.


    When the Fed Gov began forcible integration of Northern cities, it did so by destroying Catholic neighborhoods by forcing blacks into Catholic areas. Polocks, Micks, and Wops were not allowed to be themselves and have their own neighborhoods. The Yankee WASP demanded they too, like the Scots-Irish rednecks, bow to the Numinous Negro.

    Jews ended up profiting most from that, but Jews did not initiate it: WASP Elites did. WASP Elites have always acted to help Jews while also putting the foot on the throats of the vast majority of white Gentiles they rule. And as soon as WASP Elites got used to blacks, they made them their #1 tool (Jews are the WASP's #1 ally) with which to batter the 'white trash.'
    , @It's All Ball Bearings
    "Warsaw must be turned into Detroit in order to crush white nationalism." Irony that Detroit mayor "Soulman" Young turned a thriving Poletown of Detroit in to a shit hole by invading the majority Polish section in 1981 on behalf of GM. The "powers that be" didn't care about this invasion on Poles either.
  17. Thomas says:
    @hhsiii
    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.

    Nothing Trump said excluded blacks from the western tradition. All of these things have been lauded in history textbooks, and not without nuance, since I was in grade school at least and I'm in my 50s. But Bouie and his ilk want to drive out any vestige of patriotism and pride. Rather than say look at how far we have advanced with the best part of our traditions they want to dwell on the worst aspects of history and blame human fallibility solely on "the west".

    It's funny, too, because Beinert's article Steve quoted talks of how Japan isn't part of Trump's western civilization. Of course they are Asian (and are fairly race concious), but one of the west's great achievements was taking a war enemy and making it part of the western alliance. I grew up during the Cold War and always thought of Japan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan as part of the western alliance. Sure, racially distinct and with their own traditions. He keeps going on about how this place is east of the west etc. well, duh, it's a globe, every place is east of everywhere else. He's the one displaying anachronistic thinking. Indeed, the west has a cultural home in classical civilization as kept alive in Europe and spread from there. And the benefits have been great. Trump is talking about the western intellectual and cultural benefits. Each nation and peoples can enjoy them as they see fit and adapt them to their cultures. dissolving borders means forcing cultures on others or destroying a culture, and destroys one of the great freedoms: freedom of assembly.

    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.

    White America will be waiting past the Second Coming for its own mystical redeemer: the Grateful Negro. Even Obama couldn’t sell that. He articulated exactly how racially-conscious blacks (even half-white ones) feel, at best, about Western civilization in his time in Paris recounted in “Dreams From My Father”: “It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine.” At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit.

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    If it makes Hussein feel any better, I doubt many natives of France feel like Paris is theirs in the current era.
    , @Art Deco
    He articulated exactly how racially-conscious blacks (even half-white ones) feel, at best, about Western civilization in his time in Paris recounted in “Dreams From My Father”: “It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine.” At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit

    Evidence that Obama suffers from 'suppressed rage' sums to precisely zero. Petty spite, complacency, boredom, narcissism, &c you can see. Rage you cannot. Of course it was not 'his'. His upbringing was 70% Honolulu and 30% Java, and Java made no impression on him, something you can tell when you see that video of him struggling to utter a few sentences in the Malay trader's dialect that's used as a lingua franca there. The haolie population of Honolulu has some people with history there, but it's mostly a jumble of people from somewhere else who fancied the climate. His grandparents never stayed longer than five years in one place during the period running from 1940 to 1960. No place is his but Honolulu. As for Honolulu, it's the Japs' world; with few exceptions, the haolies there are just livin' in it. It isn't really his, either.

    , @Joe Stalin
    Not once in my entire life, Baby Boomer, have I ever heard one American Black ever utter one word to thank a single white soldier for their sacrifice in the Civil War. Blacks will never be grateful because their entire political persona is predicated upon their relationship with whites in the US: Make whitey feel guilty in order to give them free stuff.

    As Derb states:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFY2kJ96jNY

    I'm black y'all, and I'm black y'all
    And I'm blackety black and I'm black y'all
    And I'm black y'all, and I'm black y'all
    And I'm blackety black and I'm black y'all
    I'm piggety black black
    And black black and blackety black yo
    Because Im black and I'm back
    Yo I'm black and then black y'all and I'm blackety black and
    I'm black y'all and I'm black y'all and I'm black y'all
    And I'm blackety black and I'm black y'all and
    I'm piggety black black black blackety black black black black black black black y'all
    And I'm black y'all, and I'm black y'all
    And I'm blackety black cause I'm black
    , @Clyde

    At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit.
     
    Makes for a schizophrenic Obama situation because he (hi IQ* idiot) took/takes himself so seriously as a college boy. Many of today's SJWs model themselves after this inner conflicted community organizer who failed at all his organizing efforts. It didn't have to be this way for Obama, but it's the life that he chose due to his pervy uncle Frank Marshall Davis mentoring. Who Obama's grandfather recruited to be an authentic (yeah, right!) black mentor for Obama.

    *according to Steve
    _______
    Obama’s Red Mentor Was a Pervert - Accuracy in Media
    www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-red-mentor-was-a-pervert
    Obama’s Red Mentor Was a Pervert ... picked Davis because Obama’s black father had abandoned the family and ... Some accounts say that Obama returned to Hawaii in ...

    Obama's white half enslaved his black half and should pay out reparations. I suppose.

    , @Father O'Hara
    Thats the black man for ya. European civilization? "That's not mine." My new kindle fire? "That's mine."
    , @Almost Missouri

    "you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit."
     
    Well, technically, Obama's ancestors weren't enslaved, if anything, they were the slavers. But yes, I agree with your larger point: that by going all-in with coalition of the parasitical fringes, he cut himself off from all of history's greatest achievements, so envy, resentment and hatred are the only reaction he can have.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome


    At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors

     

    Like the black Africans that enslaved your ancestors and sold them to White merchants?
  18. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon 2
    Saker and Karlin are both extreme Russian
    nationalists, especially Saker. Visiting their
    forums is like entering Dante's Seventh Circle
    of Hell - endemic lack of civility. And then people
    wonder why Russia is so dysfunctional , e.g. homicide
    rate twice that of the United States, high rates of
    alcoholism, HIV, drug addiction, short life expectancy,
    etc.

    For Russia, going from the Russian Empire of the late
    19th century to the Soviet Union of the 1920s was
    a step down. Going from the Soviet Union to Russia
    of , say 2005 (though oil was way over $100 per barrel)
    was another step down. Proceeding to Russia of today when
    oil is only $45 per barrel and the country is besieged
    by sanctions is still another step down. We have a case
    of wounded pride. Russian self-confidence rises and
    falls with the price of oil. Annexing Crimea provided
    a short-lived dopamine rush but that's gone now.
    Back in the 2000s Russians were everywhere on the social
    media. Then they suddenly disappeared when the price of
    oil collapsed, and they could no longer afford vacations
    in Western Europe. But their oligarchs can - hence the
    recent demonstrations against corruption in high places.

    @ anon2 from a different anon1

    Russia has recovered remarkably from their sanctions and oil price induced recession.

    This is a big topic. But consider Russian agriculture. It is booming and now the world’s largest exporter of grain.

    I found their economic performance surprising. It was the result of the devaluation of the Ruble by roughly 50%, the decline in oil prices, and sanctions related import restrictions.

    Basically, everything an economy *wants* to do to grow was done. Devaluation of your currency is a form of mercantilism. It helps your industries and hurts global competitors. It is roughly equivalent to tariffs.

    GDP has largely recovered from pre sanctions levels. Oil is a far smaller part of Russia’s economy.

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  19. El Dato says:
    @ANON
    According to Saker's latest rant, Trump should never have gone to Poland because Saker doesn't like Poland. Poland bad, Russia good says Saker in every article he writes.

    It’s The Saker.

    You have to leave some, you have to take some.

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  20. I dunno, we were promised Mars but instead got undefined genders. If less immigration can bring back the good stuff, sign me up.

    Of course, that would mean you guys need to quit meddling in other people’s business.

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  21. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Sustainability!

    https://www.nas.org/images/documents/NAS-Sustainability-Digital.pdf

    It turns out that not only is this huge on campuses, but also that they know they can’t ignore the African demographic catastrophe.

    However, it is explicitly against the crude, Neo-Malthusean 70′s population control movement.

    It has adopted a social justice component. ‘Basic Human Rights’ entail their version of reproductive freedom.

    In general, they would ignore population growth entirely if it were possible. They also tend to think it will take care of itself. After all, everyone they are familiar with have figured out how to live with women who don’t have seven children, so it seems axiomatic that everyone they don’t know (Africans) will figure it out.

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  22. El Dato says:

    Trump should go to China and make a speech praising Chinese Nationalism and Demographic Takeover, then tell everyone that “Tibet is a part of China” (but Taiwan still has a special status), and that in the future, so will be Africa.

    Just to see what the Jamelle Bouies have to say on this.

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  23. neutral says:
    @Anon 2
    Saker and Karlin are both extreme Russian
    nationalists, especially Saker. Visiting their
    forums is like entering Dante's Seventh Circle
    of Hell - endemic lack of civility. And then people
    wonder why Russia is so dysfunctional , e.g. homicide
    rate twice that of the United States, high rates of
    alcoholism, HIV, drug addiction, short life expectancy,
    etc.

    For Russia, going from the Russian Empire of the late
    19th century to the Soviet Union of the 1920s was
    a step down. Going from the Soviet Union to Russia
    of , say 2005 (though oil was way over $100 per barrel)
    was another step down. Proceeding to Russia of today when
    oil is only $45 per barrel and the country is besieged
    by sanctions is still another step down. We have a case
    of wounded pride. Russian self-confidence rises and
    falls with the price of oil. Annexing Crimea provided
    a short-lived dopamine rush but that's gone now.
    Back in the 2000s Russians were everywhere on the social
    media. Then they suddenly disappeared when the price of
    oil collapsed, and they could no longer afford vacations
    in Western Europe. But their oligarchs can - hence the
    recent demonstrations against corruption in high places.

    I get you are a neocon and that you want Russia to become another “ally” of the USA (and lets all be sincere here, we all know exactly what the word ally implies). I want to go beyond this debate however, I want to know what your end goal is here, I want to know what kind of ideal world you envisage, because those that reject your camp of the saints “invade the world, invite the world” can really not see it as anything other than dystopian.

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    Don't know a thing 'bout Anon 2 or others.

    But, there are a lot of people who escaped Russia's long arm of the law, or else who were dealt a bad hand there, who crash-landed in America or Britain. These folks have personal scores to settle.

    It's like living in a city that, to you, is a hellhole. When you finally move to another city, you may find it difficult not to speak poorly about your former home at every opportunity. Now multiple that animus tenfold in the case of individuals who are naturally politically aggressive - the kind who, for example, were in power but are now out of it, or whose attempted subversion of their old country ("reform," by their lights) failed, or simply (as above) crooks whose rackets were ankled or only disincentivized - and you end up with a pack of malcontents who would see the whole green Earth burn up in an atomic fire if it meant that the dirty dogs back home burned first.

    Khodorkovsky's "Open Russia" (wiki it) seems to be one of the watering holes for this type of individual. Every time I see a daft anti-Russian tweet with odd grammar and British thumbmarks, including an author name like "Casper Eddington Whittier," I think it's probably a bot crafted by one of these characters. Restoring Russia to an Orthodox Christian polity does not seem to one of their aims.

    Given the mechanism of psychological projection, it may be that all the "bot" "Russian subversion" "Putin is a poisoner" stuff with which these folks inundate us is simply self-revelation into their own actions, aims, and intentions.
  24. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    This is just one of the many reasons the modern left sickens me.

    The lefties never but never fail to blather on and on and on about the ‘colonisation and displacement’ of the Palestinian people from what was once Palestine. Now, I’ve got no dog in the Arab/Israeli fight, and I am totally indifferent to this particular conflict – when it crops up as an item on the TV news, I mentally switch off for the duration, as I have done since approximately 1974 when I first started watching and attempting to understand TV news. It’s always been a great big irrelevant bore to me.

    But it’s the stinking hypocrisy of the left that really gets to me. On the one hand, it’s the highest evil possibly for Israelis to displace and colonise Palestinians from their ancestral homeland, yet it’s also the highest evil possible for an ethnic Briton, say, to even make the remotest squeak of a suggestion that Pakistanis, say, are currently ‘colonizing and displacing’ ethnic Britons from Bradford.

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  25. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Steve Sailer
    The extremism of the centrists these days is remarkable: e.g., Poland can't be allowed to be Polish. Poland must be driven down a path toward Warsaw and Krakow looking like Detroit in the name of fighting racism.

    Ironically, a large portion of the 1900 – 1970 Detroit population was ethnically Polish in origin.

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    And it was a wonderful city then. But blacks regress to black and all those well paid middle class black auto workers turned the town into a poverty stricken hell hole of an African city.
    , @Negrolphin Pool
    Furthering the irony, Hamtramck, Detroit's most famous Polish enclave, has fallen to the Muslim demographic sword.
  26. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Steve Sailer
    The extremism of the centrists these days is remarkable: e.g., Poland can't be allowed to be Polish. Poland must be driven down a path toward Warsaw and Krakow looking like Detroit in the name of fighting racism.

    Anyone, absolutely anyone, with a brain – who happens to hold a position of authority – must, or at least should – recognise and realise the sheer utter and absolute unmitigated disaster that was visited upon the United States of America by virtue of the fact of importing a mass subsaharan African origin population, and strive to do anything and everything in his power to prevent the same – inevitable – cataclysmic disaster being visited upon his own motherland.

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  27. neutral says:

    I am going to ask people here straight what they think when they the word “Western” comes up ? An average Indian or Chinese will know what it means when they say somebody is a Westerner, I doubt they would consider someone like Sadiq Khan a Westerner, and that is not because he is Muslim but because he not white. Like them, I consider Western as being white, however so many people that reject the stuff that comes out from Slate/The Economist/The Guardian/NYT/CNN/etc, still think its about religion or ideology

    Would you consider a completely devout Catholic Poland, with the caveat that it was completely sub Saharan Catholic, as Western ? The reason I bring up this question is because the left already knows that Islam is mostly a non white religion, so when those on the right try to come with the supposedly clever retort by responding to leftists that claim Islamophobia is racist with “Islam is not race”, it is the left that are indeed correct on that one.

    If we are going to be pro Western, then I think we need to be absolutely clear on what we mean by it, we have to make it very clear that is not about Christianity or the teachings or Aristotle and Plato or democracy or free speech – it is about white people.

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  28. CK says:
    @whorefinder
    Trump's ability to mess with the media in real time is so amazingly precise and brilliant that I'm betting historians, political scientists, and psychologists of the future will devote multi-volume tomes to it.

    I don't want to overshoot and claim he's Caesar-like in playing at a whole 'nother level than his opponents (especially with the Shakespearean tragedy implication that brings), but...

    Trump's really reminding me of Caesar in his ability to not only anticipate his political opponents' next moves, but being able to anticipate the political landscape for the next generation and altering his tactics so that he can force his political opponents to make errors against themselves that will only make them look stupider in the future.

    It sounds like hyperbole, but quite frankly I'm believing it. Trump's that freakin' good.

    He has spent close to 50 years outthinking political and business opponents in his other successful careers. Outthinking the current scriveners of the press has proven much easier.

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  29. notice says:

    If one wants to troll Jamelle Bouie, simply equate Marin County with Poland in his comment section under his articles. In fact, the Hamptons, New Canaan Connecticut, Upper West Side, East Suffolk County and several other domestic “Poland’s” we have amongst us, ripe for enrichment. Sarcastically tease Bouie about the Warsaw’s we have here, and what columns will he write decrying them. His readers need to be woke against them, etc.

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    • Replies: @the Supreme Gentleman
    He probably does actually believe that those polities need to be forcefully...diversified, though, since he's a subscriber to Nobel laureate/Mensa member/Royal Society president Ta-Nehisi Coates' theory that redlining in the FDR era explains why blacks today have an unfortunate tendency to commit violent crimes/do poorly in school/have children out of wedlock.
  30. AndrewR says:
    @Thomas

    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.
     
    White America will be waiting past the Second Coming for its own mystical redeemer: the Grateful Negro. Even Obama couldn't sell that. He articulated exactly how racially-conscious blacks (even half-white ones) feel, at best, about Western civilization in his time in Paris recounted in "Dreams From My Father": "It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine." At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit.

    If it makes Hussein feel any better, I doubt many natives of France feel like Paris is theirs in the current era.

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  31. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Beckow

    ...And if we fail to preserve it, it will never, ever exist again.”
     
    Bouie and Slate don't want to preserve anything, they hate it, they want it gone. They are in a proud tradition of Jacobins and Bolsheviks - they want a different world, with different people, a different calendar, different everything.

    As all lunatic visionaries they scream that it is simply inevitable, that there is no alternative. They refuse to discuss specific facts, or think through consequences, another sign of an utopian delusion that we have seen in the past. For example, how would it work with 7-10 billion people and 'open borders'? Would we all eventually end-up speaking a kind of pidgin English since complexity cannot survive in a global melting pot? Apart from inflating real estate in the West and providing an unlimited supply of cheap labor, how would this help the economy? Or help most people?

    The reason they don't want to think it through - as communists refused to think through how one would have an economy or even a concept of work after abolishing money - is that they are not interested in a viable society or civilization, all they want is to destroy what they hate, what we still partially have today. The labels they apply to all who disagree are there to cover up the emotional hatred that is driving them. So any discussion is almost impossible, as with all unhinged utopians. They don't want what we have to 'exist', Trump is never going to convince them. This is a who-whom moment.

    Many would read Bouie and read no intent to destroy and remake society, only a call for the West to live up to its own ideals. If the West has ever been racist, or shown some kind of ethnic chauvinism, or had borders, well, that’s just the West not living up to its own ideals, they think.

    How did they manage to get so many ordinary, older, educated but not particularly intellectual, and not at all revolutionary types, who think that Western society as it stands so far is pretty good, to believe that there’s no reason the rest of the world can’t be invited to join in, that Western values and mass non-Western immigration are compatible — perhaps even that the former are so awe-inspiring as to compel assimilation into them — and it’s racist (and therefore a failure to live up to Western ideals) to believe otherwise?

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  32. Arclight says:

    Any half-conscious person understands that Europe and North America tower over every other civilization in terms of artistic, scientific, and cultural achievements. As penance for having lorded over other areas of the globe at various points in their histories, Europeans and Americans are supposed to hand over their cities and the benefits of their cultures to people who are basically history’s losers.

    There are many things I do not like about Trump. However, the fact that he and/or members of his Administration recognize the need to preserve our society so that future generations can enjoy the same benefits that we did instead of turning it into Blade Runner makes me grateful Clinton was not elected. However, I hope he manages to become the great persuader Scott Adams imagines when it comes to the issue of civilizational preservation – so far I think he’s only preaching to the choir, and we truly need a sea change in how Americans view this issue.

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    Any half-conscious person understands that Europe and North America tower over every other civilization in terms of artistic, scientific, and cultural achievements.
     
    This is true.

    And because civilization is a huge mistake for mankind, the West needs to go under, more than any other culture. Western elites, who suffer from civilization more than most, instinctively understand this, and are working furiously to accomplish this noble task, even if consciously they don't understand the historical significance of what they are doing.

    , @Rod1963

    so far I think he’s only preaching to the choir, and we truly need a sea change in how Americans view this issue.

     

    If he includes aspects of his Poland speech at his rallies in the states, it would be a good start and would terrify the elites.
    , @bomag

    ...the issue of civilizational preservation
     
    The Progressives and such are intent on giving it all away; to me, that seems to be the main driver. They are happy to import refugees et al and just let them have the place. The warm tingles of complete altruism seems to be what motivates the other side.
    , @MBlanc46
    Perhaps instead of a sea change, which might not be possible, what we need is partition.
    , @Anon
    Trump doesn't have to explain how great Western Civilization is to whites. They already know it. What he needs is to teach whites to stop listening to the left. For that he needs to goad leftists into doing and saying asinine things that will make 90% of all whites think the left is nuts, and he's succeeding quite well. He hasn't even been in office six months, and left is having a very public spittle-flecked nervous breakdown. After four years of this, the left is going to be in a very interesting state indeed. I predict the left will start taking extremely desperate measures, and many of their leaders will wind up in jail on terrorism and inciting a riot charges. Jail's a very good place for them. Put them in alongside violent ghetto blacks and Mexican gang members, and we'll see how long that moronic left-wing ideology lasts inside their heads.
  33. Dr. X says:

    “What we have, what we inherited from our—and you know this better than anybody, and you see it today with this incredible group of people—what we’ve inherited from our ancestors has never existed to this extent before. And if we fail to preserve it, it will never, ever exist again.”

    Of course Jamelle Bouie would take exception to this sentence. What did Bouie inherit from his African ancestors? A bone in the nose?

    When Trump used the pronouns “we” and “our” he was implicitly talking about the achievements of whites. And rightly so…

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  34. Tiny Duck says:

    Anyone who has been to Europe recently could tell you that European civilization is in no danger of being erased, by Muslim immigrants or anyone else. Changed and improved but not erased. The idea that it is is a canard beloved of the Steve Bannons and Marine LePens of the world, but it’s not rooted in any kind of fact.

    Trumps ameikkka will have to be crushed and humiliated like hitlers Germany .

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    • Replies: @ANON
    Crushed and humiliated by whom? Canada, Mexico? Any other invader would have to cross the Atlantic or Pacific. Even Japan only got as far as Hawaii and only stayed a few hours.

    Lotsa luck.
  35. Beckow says:
    @whorefinder
    Trump's ability to mess with the media in real time is so amazingly precise and brilliant that I'm betting historians, political scientists, and psychologists of the future will devote multi-volume tomes to it.

    I don't want to overshoot and claim he's Caesar-like in playing at a whole 'nother level than his opponents (especially with the Shakespearean tragedy implication that brings), but...

    Trump's really reminding me of Caesar in his ability to not only anticipate his political opponents' next moves, but being able to anticipate the political landscape for the next generation and altering his tactics so that he can force his political opponents to make errors against themselves that will only make them look stupider in the future.

    It sounds like hyperbole, but quite frankly I'm believing it. Trump's that freakin' good.

    Maybe he is that good. Although a lot of these themes have been sitting around for a generation without anyone willing to pick them up seriously.

    But why

    “Caesar-like Shakespearean tragedy”

    Ceasar had nothing to do with Shakespeare who lived 1,600 years later and only wrote about the tragedy, as did many others. His tragedy was his own in his own time. Is this a subtle attempt to appropriate Ceasar for the Anglo culture? Maybe that’s why Italians keep the back-door to Europe open for the migrants.

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    Maybe he is that good. Although a lot of these themes have been sitting around for a generation without anyone willing to pick them up seriously.
     
    Someone (Coulter? Derb?) said that the immigration issue was like a hundred-dollar bill lying on the sidewalk that no one would stoop down to pick up until Trump did it.

    I'm not sure that Trump is the masterly player of "4-d chess" that some of his admirers allege, but it should be remembered that his success always was as a marketer. Marketing is not just selling - it mainly consists of identifying the market to which you aim to sell. In the issues on which he chose to campaign, Trump had identified the market for them, a market almost entirely unserved by all the other candidates. He knew where to find his voters, and campaigned in states such as Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, where the pundits thought he was wasting time - until he carried them.

    His victory was not an accident - he won by honest and intelligent effort. That's what his detractors, with their intellectual pretensions and moral vanity, still have a hard time accepting, and hence they continue to grasp at straws like the alleged Russian hacking of the election, "voter suppression," and other excuses.

  36. All nationalism in historically white societies is White nationalism and prima facie evidence of racism and resistance to racial integration, even if said integration has to be achieved by importing peoples from thousands of miles away in Africa, Arabia and other parts of Asia.

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  37. imbroglio says:

    Some of my best friends are of Polish ancestry as are many of my neighbors. I even have a “Polska Ordnowiona” t shirt I got at the Kozciuzko Legion Post. That should qualify me as a pundit worth listening to. So here’s the skinny:

    Sooner of later, Linda Sarsour and her pals are going to kick the Israelis out of Palestine and send them back to where they came from (those who manage to get away.) Most of them came from Poland, and no people have hated the Jews more than the Poles. Makes sense. The Poles have had the kiesters kicked out of them over the course of their twelve hundred year existence and have needed a dog to kick in turn. Who better than those poor Jewish snooks in the Polish stetls who had even less of a pot to piddle in than the poor kicked around Poles had.

    Let the Muslims migrate to France, the U.K. and the States. The Poles should take in the Jews and this time do it nicely. After all, Israelis are hardly Jewish anymore and are thoroughly Westernized in their outlook and tastes. They’d be decent friends and neighbors, enabling history to have the chance to not repeat itself. Proof? When the Pope visited Israel not many moons ago, he got an even more rousing welcome than Brittney Spears got when she bopped over to the Western Wall last week.

    Czincuye!

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    Sooner of later, Linda Sarsour and her pals are going to kick the Israelis out of Palestine

    Your chums have been working on the project for 90 years. How's it workin' out for ya?



    and send them back to where they came from (those who manage to get away.) Most of them came from Poland,

    No, most of them came from various parts of the Near East and North Africa. About 2/3 of European Jewry did not survive the war and only about 1% of Israel's Jewish population consists of migrants from North America.
  38. The share of national income of the so called Western countries has been declining precipitously and 2020 is the likely end of the 200 year blip of western dominance that began in 1820 with the industrial revolution. The wealth has been moving east since World War II and the decline had been even more dramatic since 2000. They had to turn the G7 into the G20 to stay relevant.

    Besides that, the end result of the western model is a birth rate well below replacement levels, and a disproportionate reliance on harmful fossil fuels. Liberal values also make Europe in particular a soft as butter target for Islamic encroachment. (America less so, given the sentiment against Islam here.)

    In other words, a big cultural and political fail.

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  39. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Anon 2
    Saker and Karlin are both extreme Russian
    nationalists, especially Saker. Visiting their
    forums is like entering Dante's Seventh Circle
    of Hell - endemic lack of civility. And then people
    wonder why Russia is so dysfunctional , e.g. homicide
    rate twice that of the United States, high rates of
    alcoholism, HIV, drug addiction, short life expectancy,
    etc.

    For Russia, going from the Russian Empire of the late
    19th century to the Soviet Union of the 1920s was
    a step down. Going from the Soviet Union to Russia
    of , say 2005 (though oil was way over $100 per barrel)
    was another step down. Proceeding to Russia of today when
    oil is only $45 per barrel and the country is besieged
    by sanctions is still another step down. We have a case
    of wounded pride. Russian self-confidence rises and
    falls with the price of oil. Annexing Crimea provided
    a short-lived dopamine rush but that's gone now.
    Back in the 2000s Russians were everywhere on the social
    media. Then they suddenly disappeared when the price of
    oil collapsed, and they could no longer afford vacations
    in Western Europe. But their oligarchs can - hence the
    recent demonstrations against corruption in high places.

    “And then people wonder why Russia is so dysfunctional , e.g. HIV, …etc.”

    Whaaaaht? I thought St. Vlad had created a No Homo paradise!

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  40. One point that is rarely made when referring to “The Camp of The Saints “is that the current situation is worse though not nearly as dramatic ( Merkel’s 2015 idiocy aside ) . Muslims or Hindus ? Who will be a bigger fifth column down the line ? When this question is answered honestly it’s obvious . Gotta admit I haven’t read the book – yet .

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    An argument could made that the west should have allied with the Muslims against Israel after WWII. We'd still have problems, they just be different ones.

    Hindus are problematic in their own way. Muslims treat women far better than they do and Islamic toilet habits are better. The Hindus we get are mostly educated in a Western style system. Indians from the country side still like to kill or ostracize widows and poop right where their crops grow.

  41. … But it’s clear Trump has something else in mind: immigration. …

    Immigration on somebody’s mind? That’s funny, it’s also been on my mind for 30 years or more. Immigration and debt — or demography and financialization — are the two big issues of our time. I am glad President Trump and speechwriter Stephen Miller have immigration on their minds.

    I ain’t gonna even bother to come up with something nasty to say about Jamelle Bouie.

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  42. Art Deco says:
    @whorefinder
    Slate morphed into Salon so slowly I didn't even notice!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzXwwNXMKAY

    No, seriously. I did notice years ago they were going there; I stopped reading them in probably 2004 or 05, when they 90% lefty propaganda opinion pieces.

    The Grahams, that WASP-Jewish clan, having sold the Post, are now freed of any pretense of presenting anything more than opinion/commentary, are running wild in Slate attacking the Irish-Italian-Scots-Irish interlopers who dare challenge them for political and social power, using any brown, yellow, or black group as a weapon against them.

    Everything old is new again. Including identity politics.

    The Grahams, that WASP-Jewish clan, having sold the Post, are now freed of any pretense of presenting anything more than opinion/commentary, are running wild in Slate attacking the Irish-Italian-Scots-Irish interlopers who dare challenge them for political and social power, using any brown, yellow, or black group as a weapon against them.

    The Graham media properties are collected in a holding company run by Donald Graham’s son-in-law, Timothy O’Shaughnessy.

    The other member of the 4th generation to have run family businesses is Katherine Weymouth. Katherine Weymouth’s supply of Jewish great-grandparents totals precisely one (1), a man who attended Yale and inter-married. Her 1 WASP grandparent was born into an unremarkable family in the Dakotas which later migrated to South Florida and made good in real estate (you know, like Elizabeth and Fred Trump).

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    Katharine Weymouth's grandfather, Philip L. Graham*, blew his brains out in 1963, two days before the first anniversary of Marilyn Monroe's death.

    After Graham's untimely end, his wife Katharine - the mischling daughter of Eugene Meyer (the aforementioned Yale-educated Jew, who purchased the Post in 1933) - took over the reins of the Post empire. (This empire included, at one time, Newsweek and a number of television stations.)

    *Useless trivia: The Graham-owned ABC affiliate in Miami, Channel 10, has his initials in its call sign (WPLG).

    More useless trivia: Katharine Weymouth has an extremely masculine jaw - nay, an ultra-manly face. In many photographs, she looks like a dude in drag. (Google it if you don't believe me.)

    Yet more useless trivia: Weymouth married her husband in 1998, the day after a gunman at the U.S. Capitol murdered two Capitol policemen - an event that, naturally, got heavy play in the Post. (They are now divorced.)

    The perp was such a nut - pure schizo - that the case never went to trial. Wikipedia sez: "In an interview with a court-appointed psychiatrist, he explained that he stormed the Capitol to prevent the United States from being annihilated by disease and legions of cannibals."

    (This was well before the zombie craze, mind you.)
    , @whorefinder
    So, in other words, you agree the Grahams are WASP-Jewish, and have a shabbos goy as a front man as well as come shabbos goy mixers.

    Tell me again how light skinned blacks with white ancestors don't identify with blacks more than whites? The same holds true for most part-Jewish folk these days: they tend to identify with their Jewish side rather than their European side.
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  44. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Jean Raspail is a traditionalist Catholic. Same with Pat Buchanan, late Joe Sobran (convert), Belloc, Chesterton, … It seems like the traditionalist Catholics were way ahead of the curve. When most conservatives were still arguing that lower tax rates and selling “conservative” principles would save our civilization, PJB was out there saying- with a karate chop hand motion- “Nope, it’s all about demography my friend.”

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    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Joe Sobran was no supporter of immigration control. I subscribed to his newsletter but let my subscription lapse after he wrote that he couldn't picture Jesus standing at the border and forbidding entry to Mexicans.

    Sobran also wrote that when he saw American youth with their piercings and tattoos he couldn't imagine how a Hispanic inflow could be any worse. (Guess he didn't encounter any MS13 types with their face tattoos.)

    Sobran developed some concern about immigration after reading one of Pat Buchanan's books, but the fact that it had taken him so long to take notice of so fundamental an issue made me lose respect for him.

  45. @Anon
    Nothing wrong with 'white nationalism' in a white nation like Poland.

    I mean... nothing wrong with black nationalism in black African nation.

    White Nationalism is wrong in non-white nation.

    It's like German nationalism is fine on German soil. Problem with WWII was it spread its power to Polish soil and then Russian soil.

    So, it's 'where, when'. When a people are Where they belong, in their homeland, they can have their nationalism.

    Problem of globalism is it is essentially Jewish nationalism uber non-Jewish nations.

    Do you consider the countries of the Anglosphere to be white or non-white nations?

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  46. Art Deco says:
    @Thomas

    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.
     
    White America will be waiting past the Second Coming for its own mystical redeemer: the Grateful Negro. Even Obama couldn't sell that. He articulated exactly how racially-conscious blacks (even half-white ones) feel, at best, about Western civilization in his time in Paris recounted in "Dreams From My Father": "It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine." At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit.

    He articulated exactly how racially-conscious blacks (even half-white ones) feel, at best, about Western civilization in his time in Paris recounted in “Dreams From My Father”: “It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine.” At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit

    Evidence that Obama suffers from ‘suppressed rage’ sums to precisely zero. Petty spite, complacency, boredom, narcissism, &c you can see. Rage you cannot. Of course it was not ‘his’. His upbringing was 70% Honolulu and 30% Java, and Java made no impression on him, something you can tell when you see that video of him struggling to utter a few sentences in the Malay trader’s dialect that’s used as a lingua franca there. The haolie population of Honolulu has some people with history there, but it’s mostly a jumble of people from somewhere else who fancied the climate. His grandparents never stayed longer than five years in one place during the period running from 1940 to 1960. No place is his but Honolulu. As for Honolulu, it’s the Japs’ world; with few exceptions, the haolies there are just livin’ in it. It isn’t really his, either.

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    Yeah Hawaii isn't really anybody's home anymore. My cousin lived there with her husband and son for 5 years, as a doctor and an investment broker. They had dough, a beautiful home on Oahu, and perfect beaches. But as soon as their son graduated from HS they left for Tucson. Tucson. They just couldn't see a future in HI, and neither could their high-achieving boy.

    Another cousin is bailing on his condo on Maui to go back to Fairbanks. Of course, he'll go back to Maui for vacations. I doubt anybody could live long-term in Fairbanks.
  47. @whorefinder
    Slate morphed into Salon so slowly I didn't even notice!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzXwwNXMKAY

    No, seriously. I did notice years ago they were going there; I stopped reading them in probably 2004 or 05, when they 90% lefty propaganda opinion pieces.

    The Grahams, that WASP-Jewish clan, having sold the Post, are now freed of any pretense of presenting anything more than opinion/commentary, are running wild in Slate attacking the Irish-Italian-Scots-Irish interlopers who dare challenge them for political and social power, using any brown, yellow, or black group as a weapon against them.

    Everything old is new again. Including identity politics.

    The Grahams, that WASP-Jewish clan, having sold the Post, are now freed of any pretense of presenting anything more than opinion/commentary, are running wild in Slate attacking the Irish-Italian-Scots-Irish interlopers who dare challenge them for political and social power, using any brown, yellow, or black group as a weapon against them.

    Italian? Got it, about 1900 New York.

    Irish? Got it, about 1748 North Carolina.

    Scotch-Irish? Got it, about 1786 Maryland.

    Add in the English that got here earlier, and the French, and the German, and other blood and what we got is a White Core American.

    The WASPs and Jews that run the American Empire are weak and getting weaker. The trouble is that these creatures will force there to be bloodshed in the United States. These WASPs and Jews that are the core of the American Empire’s ruling class will not give up their power without a fight.

    My biggest concern is the command and control of the nuclear weaponry arsenal of the American Empire when Civil War II fully breaks out. I hope both sides — the ruling class pushing globalization and White Core Americans supporting patriotism — can come to some agreement about the disposition of the nuclear weapons.

    President Trump has repeatedly stated that nuclear weapons are in the arsenal of the American Empire and the United States is fully prepared to deploy them. President Trump has also strongly stated that the avoidance of nuclear war is one of the most important roles for any president of the United States.

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  48. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    It’s amazing how time and again, these pieces are by ethnic minorities decrying whites wanting to preserve whites and white countries their ancestors built from minorities of the same race who want to steal it away, and call that the most terrible thing of all times- racism.

    Its like a murderer writing an article complaining that murder victims and their families are terrible devils for trying to prevent being murdered.

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  49. @Thrasymachus
    Well- honestly- it was a pretty white nationalist speech.

    All Western forms of political organization are implicitly white. Capitalism, communism, social democracy, Christian democracy, all assume, implicitly, whether their advocates will admit it or not, the presence of a mostly white, European population. They will all kind of work with a white (or maybe NE Asian) population.

    None will work with a MENA/African/South Asian population. These populations have their own kinds of organization, but they don't function anything like Europeans think a society should function.

    The most troublesome of these is Islam. Chinese civilization has worked or not worked on its own terms for millenia, as has South Asian civilization. Islam is a predatory, parasitic system that has taken over and lived off of various hosts throughout its history, but was mostly contained and stable by the 19th century. It began a new stage of predation and vampirism in the last few decades, which without further action will result in Europe being consumed and turned into a place like the Middle East in a century or so.

    The Brazilification of the US is a different situation but again a European country cannot be maintained without Europeans. A European elite maintaining fitful, sporadic control over a Amerindian underclass is not a European country.

    Maintaining Western- read European- civilization requires maintaining a European population. We have come to the point where we can no longer pretend this is not true. A "multicultural" nation has to be mostly white, and with a cooperative non-white population, to work.

    Well- honestly- it was a pretty white nationalist speech.

    But not exclusively white.

    The choice for the West is to either ally with the ancestral peoples of the Western lands or with deracinated globalist empire.

    The globalists seem determined to make the choice an easy one.

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    The choice for the West is to either ally with the ancestral peoples of the Western lands or with deracinated globalist empire.
     
    The genius of the West is that it appears we've figured to bridge the gap between ethnicities. You don't have to be white to be an ally. But it requires a level of discipline, a common framework, and intolerance of certain behaviors, all of which appear to be waivering or disappearing.
  50. Anon7 says:
    @Steve Sailer
    The extremism of the centrists these days is remarkable: e.g., Poland can't be allowed to be Polish. Poland must be driven down a path toward Warsaw and Krakow looking like Detroit in the name of fighting racism.

    No, not like Detroit… but close. How about Hamtramck, Michigan? In 1970, the town was 90% Polish; that’s where you went to get real pączki on Fat Tuesday.

    Many of those former Polish residents still flock back here each week for the Polish language Mass at St. Florian Roman Catholic Church. It’s a majestic neo-Gothic structure, with beautiful stained-glass windows and an elaborate turquoise spire that rises high above Poland Street.

    The Hamtramck they knew had changed. “It’s now more like a Bangladeshi town, so, that’s a different story,” says Fidler. “Seems like, you know, they were basically taking over.”

    That loss of identity can be uncomfortable. St. Florian’s priest, Miroslaw Frankowski, recalls his first impression of this city when he arrived in Hamtramck about 10 years ago.

    “I’m almost like in Cairo,” he says, “because you know, the call for the prayer — and people covered up under clothings typical for Middle East. Yeah, it seemed like I’m working in Middle East.”

    In Hamtramck streets, it’s common now to see women fully veiled, with only their eyes exposed. The amplified Muslim call to prayer was a source of controversy here some years back, and still can raise hackles…

    Salah Hadwan, 27, takes us inside to meet his family, and right away, his mother is brewing tea for us and his brothers get busy ordering takeout Yemeni food for lunch.

    On the refrigerator, right next to Arabic script reading “God is the greatest,” there’s a red, white and blue oval sticker printed with two words: “I voted.”

    Hadwan suggests that their diverse city should serve as a model. He says, “I wish there was a mini-Hamtramck in every state.”

    http://www.npr.org/2017/03/28/519017217/hamtramck-michigan-an-evolving-city-of-immigrants

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    • Replies: @Thea
    Also North Africa was once Christian. A very long time ago.

    Will our descendants say that about Michigan?
  51. JohnnyD says:

    Trump is at his best when he provokes journalists into writing these stupid and hysterical pieces.

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  52. I beg to differ. Although the Saker is obviously very much a Russophile his articles are an excellent antidote to the surrealistically absurd and venomous Russophobia – and more generally Slavophobia – spewed out by the establishment and their fake news MSM on a daily basis. This is particularly true of the current situations in Syria, Ukraine, and the Baltic. Just comparing the Saker’s past predictions and those of the fake news MSM with how things have actually fallen out suggests that the Saker is a necessary read for anyone who really wants to understand what is going on with Russia versus the rest of the world, and the USA in particular.

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  53. El Dato says:

    OT: The Battle of Hamburg!

    Hamburg looks slapped around a bit:

    https://www.rt.com/news/395735-hamburg-protests-g20-aftermath/

    Nobody has suggested yet that Puting injected provocateurs into the wrecker teams, but that’s probably just a matter of time.

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    I Hope he did. I'd love to see the liberal mob shut the whole town down and totally humiliate Merkel.
    , @Anon
    I was reading that the German cops were anticipating attacks on the G20 attendees, not attacks on the town itself.
  54. Kirt says:

    White nationalist is well on its way to becoming the same kind of generalized, meaningless insult as racist, fascist, sexist, homophobic, etc. If someone calls you one of these things, it’s a sign of their lack of creativity in insults. Just shrug and inquire, “Isn’t everybody?”

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  55. Clyde says:
    @Dahlia
    Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today. I'm always embarrassed for the other journalists when they retweet him because it means they're all about to follow him down some really stupid path. It's like they impose a Stop Think upon themselves when Bouie begins to reeeeeee!

    I think he was one of the first, or the first, to go into histrionics about Trump's speech. And of course this has turned out embarrassing for all of them. They say to never interfere when your enemy is destroying themselves, but they forgot to tell us that the spectacle would be so painful to watch.

    Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today. I’m always embarrassed for the other journalists when they retweet him…

    All these bush league social justice warriors are boring dullards, it is only a matter of degree. It is a pathetic situation for this pathetic under 30 crowd.

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  56. When it was published in 1973 in the US, “The Camp of the Saints” created quite a stir. It has never been an “obscure novel.” The biggest knock on “The Camp of the Saints” was that no Western nation would ever allow more than 1 million refugees from the Third-World to jump the borders of France or any other Western nation in such a very brief span of time.

    Jean Raspail only got the country wrong in his novel. Instead of France, it was Germany that made Raspail a full-blown prophet in 2015. Merkel was such an adroit politician that what she did to Germany greatly helped elect Donald Trump in the United States in 2016 – – – which, of course, was not her intention by a long chalk. “The Camp of the Saints” is only “obscure” in Left-wing social circles. Every fact that goes against the grain of Marxist thought or fantasy is by definition “obscure” in the perverse Lefty way of looking at the real world, which can always be observed beyond the narrow Lefty cocoon of myth & tall tales.

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  57. conatus says:

    Isn’t this brouhaha all part of the War on Whites that Congressman Mo Brooks talked about a few months ago?

    Now remind me again, why can’t YT organize(on the basis of race) to protect him(her)self? I do not understand the distinction made with other groups? Apparently either does an African-american law professor at Harvard. Regarding whites organizing on racial grounds: I quote Harvard Law Professor Randall Kennedy, from a 1997 Atlantic article, ‘My Race Problem-and Ours.’ “I find it difficult to accept that it is wrong for whites to mobilize themselves on a racial basis solely for purposes of white advancement but morally permissible for blacks to mobilize themselves on a racial basis solely for purposes of black
    advancement.”

    Is it against the law to be white in public?

    BUT if anyone so much as glanced at organizing the 65% of the electorate who are……without color? then he is a racist. Better to push straight YT men over the edge and drone on about ‘White privilege’ so they don’t dare organize…the way all others do. When whites make their feeble attempt to organize the media shouts them down with cries of ‘White supremacist!” and “White nationalist” Like they used to say,”United we stand, divided we fall.”

    But all other groups organize? What’s with that?. You can be brown in public, that is fine, that is praised. La Raza, translated as ‘the Race,’ is an ‘activist’ organization, but not a racist one. Huh? You can be young and brown, La Mecha the Hispanic student body org’s motto is “Por La Raza todo, Fuera de La Raza nada”, which is often translated as “For the Race, everything, outside the Race, nothing.” Sounds kind of threatening? They are ‘activists’ not ‘supremacists.’
    Gawd forbid we talk of the Black organizations the Black Lives Matter crowd or CAIR, the Muslim organizations or the Jewish organizations all striving to get a piece of the pie and limit any kind of critical talk by the sans-color crowd.
    But just try being white in public.

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  58. @hhsiii
    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.

    Nothing Trump said excluded blacks from the western tradition. All of these things have been lauded in history textbooks, and not without nuance, since I was in grade school at least and I'm in my 50s. But Bouie and his ilk want to drive out any vestige of patriotism and pride. Rather than say look at how far we have advanced with the best part of our traditions they want to dwell on the worst aspects of history and blame human fallibility solely on "the west".

    It's funny, too, because Beinert's article Steve quoted talks of how Japan isn't part of Trump's western civilization. Of course they are Asian (and are fairly race concious), but one of the west's great achievements was taking a war enemy and making it part of the western alliance. I grew up during the Cold War and always thought of Japan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan as part of the western alliance. Sure, racially distinct and with their own traditions. He keeps going on about how this place is east of the west etc. well, duh, it's a globe, every place is east of everywhere else. He's the one displaying anachronistic thinking. Indeed, the west has a cultural home in classical civilization as kept alive in Europe and spread from there. And the benefits have been great. Trump is talking about the western intellectual and cultural benefits. Each nation and peoples can enjoy them as they see fit and adapt them to their cultures. dissolving borders means forcing cultures on others or destroying a culture, and destroys one of the great freedoms: freedom of assembly.

    hsiii, The American blacks who have taken advantage of what America has to offer, such as free education, have done better than the vast majority of Africans still on that continent. There were a few radicalized Native Americans that I worked with, but the vast majority knew that Western culture brought them out of the near stone age.

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  59. Also conservationist / environmentalist / biodiversity rhetoric. Of course there was much overlap between, say, the founders of the National Park System and the opponents of unlimited immigration. The concepts of “stewardship” and “sustainability” are important links.

    The ruling class of the American Empire was still primarily Anglo-Celtic when the concepts of “stewardship” and “sustainability” motivated the ruling class to limit immigration and create the National Park System. The ruling class at that time was confident and proud to be Anglo-Saxon or Anglo-Celtic or Anglo-Norman.

    Some of my ancestors who came to the United States at about the time the American Empire had gone global knew they were coming to a nation that was colonized, settled and pioneered by people who were English. The English had displaced the French, Swedes, Dutch and others but the European immigrants understood what America was.

    The American Empire’s ruling class today could be described as a WASP-Jew mutation. The WASP-Jew ruling class is only proud of its money and power and they are only confident of their ability to maintain control of the power as America transforms into a multicultural tower of Babel. I think their belief that they will maintain control of the American Empire is wrong.

    The White Core American Patriots who are soon to dislodge the WASP-Jew ruling class of the American Empire think in terms of generations. The WASP-Jew ruling class is incapable of thinking about future generations because they only think of their big project: Racial Replacement of White Core Americans. Obama said it succcinctly when he talked about the racial transformation of the United States through mass immigration.

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  60. @Dahlia
    Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today. I'm always embarrassed for the other journalists when they retweet him because it means they're all about to follow him down some really stupid path. It's like they impose a Stop Think upon themselves when Bouie begins to reeeeeee!

    I think he was one of the first, or the first, to go into histrionics about Trump's speech. And of course this has turned out embarrassing for all of them. They say to never interfere when your enemy is destroying themselves, but they forgot to tell us that the spectacle would be so painful to watch.

    Dahlia, Bouie wrote the Slate article…”There is no such thing as a good Trump voter,” so can’t expect him to be objective.

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  61. Since 1795 Polish nationalism has been the emblem of heroic defiance against imperial tyranny. Trump and his team acted wisely in chosing Polish history as a model for the present day struggle for Western survival. It really exposes the insane hatred of the globalist elite.

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  62. beenb2 says:

    To paraphrase, you’d think given everything Jews have been through since, say, 1795, we’d allow an exception for a certain country…

    Yet that doesn’t seem to be a winning argument here, though Israel is already over 20% non-Jewish.

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    It's always been about 20% non-Jewish-following the mass expulsions of the Arabs in 1948 . That hasn't stopped it from being an apartheid Jewish ethno-state.
  63. anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    It’s interesting to see The Atlantic, Slate, Vox etc. all falling in lockstep.

    As always, consider the source…consider the source.

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  64. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    I was just thinking this: 1914. Pig-headed European elites who think they’re God drag their countries into a lot of dumb sh*t, and the US and Russia are forced to bail them out of their crap.

    1939. Pig-headed European elites who think they’re God drag their countries into a lot of dumb sh*t, and the US and Russia are forced to bail them out of their crap.

    2017. Pig-headed European elites who think they’re God drag their countries into a lot of dumb sh*t, and the US and Russia are forced to bail them out of their crap.

    History does repeat itself, doesn’t it?

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    This entire multicultural mess was created by the United States and either imposed on European vassals by force (eg Germany) or adopted by local elites as a strategy of gaining favor with American elites (eg Sweden). The reaction of Western Europe is the confusion that they're dutifully following what they thought were the values of their American overlords but they're not being rewarded with American approval as they imagined they would be (and of course they would be if Clinton had won).

    The panic and confusion in reaction to Trump by America's puppet leaders like Merkel is very similar to the reaction to Yeltsin by the communist puppet leaders of the former Soviet bloc - they all were used to impressing the Russians with their devout recitals of Marxist-Leninist liturgy and then suddenly the Russians weren't impressed at all. They all know that if Trump isn't a fluke they're as done for as the old communist parties.

    Europe would likely be a far better place if the United States had stayed out of the World Wars and the first one would have ended in either a complete German or a complete Russian victory, the way Napoleon's defeat gave us a century of relative peace until the rise of unified Germany disturbed the configuration of states. The unstable Europe that the led to World War II was created by the victors of the first one, Woodrow Wilson being the primary culprit.
  65. Stealth says:
    @Steve Sailer
    The extremism of the centrists these days is remarkable: e.g., Poland can't be allowed to be Polish. Poland must be driven down a path toward Warsaw and Krakow looking like Detroit in the name of fighting racism.

    I think envy on the part of those “centrist” elites is part of the problem. They sold out in every way you can think of (cucked, I guess), and now they’re being put to shame by Eastern Europeans who are actually doing their own thing.

    Our system seems to be set up so that only desperate status-seeking conformists will ever get the chance to become part of the managerial class. These are people who have likely never stood up for themselves in any situation where doing so might result in some kind of loss. It paid off handsomely for them, but they have no dignity whatsoever. I’m sure they resent anyone who took a different approach to life.

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    These are people who have likely never stood up for themselves in any situation where doing so might result in some kind of loss. It paid off handsomely for them, but they have no dignity whatsoever.
     
    Is this the US Congress?

    I can't see any difference from the sycophantic Russian "parliaments " of the Soviet era, or Saddam Hussein's rubber stamp National Assembly.
  66. Rob McX says:

    If Raspail had written the same novel from a different point of view, the SJWs would be fine with it – desperate immigrants fleeing poverty seeking a better life in Europe, etc. The fact that they overrun white countries in their millions would be seen as a happy ending, except that the author obviously doesn’t consider it so.

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  67. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @hhsiii
    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.

    Nothing Trump said excluded blacks from the western tradition. All of these things have been lauded in history textbooks, and not without nuance, since I was in grade school at least and I'm in my 50s. But Bouie and his ilk want to drive out any vestige of patriotism and pride. Rather than say look at how far we have advanced with the best part of our traditions they want to dwell on the worst aspects of history and blame human fallibility solely on "the west".

    It's funny, too, because Beinert's article Steve quoted talks of how Japan isn't part of Trump's western civilization. Of course they are Asian (and are fairly race concious), but one of the west's great achievements was taking a war enemy and making it part of the western alliance. I grew up during the Cold War and always thought of Japan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan as part of the western alliance. Sure, racially distinct and with their own traditions. He keeps going on about how this place is east of the west etc. well, duh, it's a globe, every place is east of everywhere else. He's the one displaying anachronistic thinking. Indeed, the west has a cultural home in classical civilization as kept alive in Europe and spread from there. And the benefits have been great. Trump is talking about the western intellectual and cultural benefits. Each nation and peoples can enjoy them as they see fit and adapt them to their cultures. dissolving borders means forcing cultures on others or destroying a culture, and destroys one of the great freedoms: freedom of assembly.

    Beinert described “The West” as based upon race and religion. He knows better than that, but because it was Trump’s speech, his knee had to twitch and jerk. Bouie is not even a third-rate version of Beinert, nevertheless the emphasis remains the same: Western culture = racism, xenophobia, homophobia, Islamophobia etc., etc. ad nauseum. The entire civilized world is to one degree or another a product of Western culture but…never mind.

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  68. 3g4me says:
    @hhsiii
    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.

    Nothing Trump said excluded blacks from the western tradition. All of these things have been lauded in history textbooks, and not without nuance, since I was in grade school at least and I'm in my 50s. But Bouie and his ilk want to drive out any vestige of patriotism and pride. Rather than say look at how far we have advanced with the best part of our traditions they want to dwell on the worst aspects of history and blame human fallibility solely on "the west".

    It's funny, too, because Beinert's article Steve quoted talks of how Japan isn't part of Trump's western civilization. Of course they are Asian (and are fairly race concious), but one of the west's great achievements was taking a war enemy and making it part of the western alliance. I grew up during the Cold War and always thought of Japan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan as part of the western alliance. Sure, racially distinct and with their own traditions. He keeps going on about how this place is east of the west etc. well, duh, it's a globe, every place is east of everywhere else. He's the one displaying anachronistic thinking. Indeed, the west has a cultural home in classical civilization as kept alive in Europe and spread from there. And the benefits have been great. Trump is talking about the western intellectual and cultural benefits. Each nation and peoples can enjoy them as they see fit and adapt them to their cultures. dissolving borders means forcing cultures on others or destroying a culture, and destroys one of the great freedoms: freedom of assembly.

    @15 hssiii: You make the classic error of conflating Western intellectual and cultural benefits as universal, to be “enjoy{ed} . . . and adapt{ed}” to various non-Western cultures. Those Western benefits are the product of Western people – specifically, White, Christian Western people. They are the product of a particular confluence of genetics, geography, and religion. When adapted by others, they are no longer particularly Western.

    That adaptation takes many forms – as an example, Chinese “Christians” here in America routinely paint their front doors red, hang Chinese good-luck charms from their rear-view mirrors, and follow the precepts of feng shui. And no, those are not the equivalent to ancient Western superstitions about black cats or Friday the 13th, which are noted more in ironic reflex than any genuine belief. Ask a Chinese Christian to live in a home antithetical to his “good luck” precepts and he will be profoundly and continually uncomfortable.

    Western Christianity is just that – distinctly Western. Again, a product of a particular people. It can be and has been adapted, and the fundamental values are supposed to be the same, but the cultural influences are profound {see Faith and Heritage’s series on ethno-christology}.

    As you note, Japan is both racially distinct and yet part of the Western political alliance. But that in no way makes Japanese culture particularly “Western.” Japan has adapted a Western garment forced upon it and made it distinctly its own – politically and culturally. The differences between the US and Japan are profound, but do not preclude our being political allies. And that alliance is disturbed by too close contact – witness every time a usually Negro member of our military occupying part of their territory rapes and murders local Japanese woman. Then the locals want all Americans – Negro or not – OUT. And why not? It’s their country.

    American Negroes have, again as you note, been the beneficiaries of our Western values, particularly via the outlawing of slavery by White Christian Great Britain. Slavery did not originate with Whites, it was never limited to Whites, and it never ended with Whites. It existed throughout the ages and cultures and is still practiced today in parts of Asia and Africa. That some tiny fraction of Negroes have adapted well and thrived in what is, for them, an alien environment and culture, in no way negates that it is still alien to their natural and genetic norm. A Thomas Sowell and legal integration of the armed forces does not equal Detroit, Baltimore, or countless other cities and White lives destroyed. So no, Negroes are most definite excluded from Western tradition.

    Merely because something can be and was freely shared does not make it universal in any sense. Western civilization is the product of Western White people, the Greek-Roman heritage, and Christianity Each is necessary but individually insufficient. No other combination results in Western civilization, but something different. No necessarily all bad or unworkable to each different culture and society, but still not Western civilization.

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    I understand the source of western civilization. But black Americans have been around a long time and been citizens for over 150 years now. I had black fellow students, teachers and principals 50 years ago, colleagues and bosses. I have more in common with most of those of my generation than a Frenchman. Or a Trojan warrior or Athenian philosopher. For better or worse
    , @ANON
    I like red doors but the Chinese practice of cutting down trees or, if the city prevents them, drowning the trees in pesticides so they die and the city will cut them down should be forbidden and rigorously prosecuted.

    But since they are not White it will never happen. They also cut down or poison trees on other people's property. I know a woman who had 2 magnificent trees in her front yard. A Chinese neighbor was always whining and bitching about the trees. They went on vacation for a week. They came back and the trees were gone.

    Highly skilled legal immigrants entitled to affirmative action medical, engineering, computer accounting and other STEM jobs White Americans are denied because they are White.

  69. Forbes says:

    …a long history of white nationalist rhetoric.

    And of what would that long history of white nationalist rhetoric consist?

    Who would be these orators of note known for white nationalist rhetoric?

    What are the chances Bouie could answer either question?

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  70. @Thomas

    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.
     
    White America will be waiting past the Second Coming for its own mystical redeemer: the Grateful Negro. Even Obama couldn't sell that. He articulated exactly how racially-conscious blacks (even half-white ones) feel, at best, about Western civilization in his time in Paris recounted in "Dreams From My Father": "It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine." At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit.

    Not once in my entire life, Baby Boomer, have I ever heard one American Black ever utter one word to thank a single white soldier for their sacrifice in the Civil War. Blacks will never be grateful because their entire political persona is predicated upon their relationship with whites in the US: Make whitey feel guilty in order to give them free stuff.

    As Derb states:

    I’m black y’all, and I’m black y’all
    And I’m blackety black and I’m black y’all
    And I’m black y’all, and I’m black y’all
    And I’m blackety black and I’m black y’all
    I’m piggety black black
    And black black and blackety black yo
    Because Im black and I’m back
    Yo I’m black and then black y’all and I’m blackety black and
    I’m black y’all and I’m black y’all and I’m black y’all
    And I’m blackety black and I’m black y’all and
    I’m piggety black black black blackety black black black black black black black y’all
    And I’m black y’all, and I’m black y’all
    And I’m blackety black cause I’m black

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    Ah, CB4.

    Well, there was Morgan Freeman's character in Glory. Them white boys is dyin'. dyin' for you, fool. I know because I dug their graves.

    The corollary of tearing down statues and proclaiming the south irredeemable, that the Civil War really was about slavery not state's rights, would seem to be that northerners were really fighting for black freedom, not Union. But no one buys that. To leftist intellectuals and lost cause conservatives alike the Union soldiers were just Yankee banker cannon fodder. Just racist Irish hoodlums like in the NYC draft riots in gangs of New York. Might as well tear down the statue of Sherman by the Plaza Hotel too.

  71. Svigor says:

    Saker’s a dipshit. In one of his recent pieces he did the “the food is terrible and the portions are so small” thing.

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  72. Svigor says:

    …And if we fail to preserve it, it will never, ever exist again.”

    Race falls into this category. No ideal, value, or practice does.

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    An ideal or practice will cease to exist if the only race that's capable of it goes extinct.
  73. AM says:
    @Desiderius

    Well- honestly- it was a pretty white nationalist speech.
     
    But not exclusively white.

    The choice for the West is to either ally with the ancestral peoples of the Western lands or with deracinated globalist empire.

    The globalists seem determined to make the choice an easy one.

    The choice for the West is to either ally with the ancestral peoples of the Western lands or with deracinated globalist empire.

    The genius of the West is that it appears we’ve figured to bridge the gap between ethnicities. You don’t have to be white to be an ally. But it requires a level of discipline, a common framework, and intolerance of certain behaviors, all of which appear to be waivering or disappearing.

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    The genius of the West is that it appears we’ve figured to bridge the gap between ethnicities. You don’t have to be white to be an ally. But it requires a level of discipline, a common framework, and intolerance of certain behaviors, all of which appear to be wavering or disappearing.
     
    That's a good point and there seems to be a big confusion about it at Unz.

    In my opinion demographically smallish ethnic minorities do not have to be a problem for Europe or the US - and can in fact be an advantage if integrated carefully (e.g. US and Europe up to the 1950's).

    As you say, it's all a question of attitude. It requires integrationist effort, acceptance of a common framework etc., in fact everything that liberal SJW's seek to prevent.

    In this light, SJW's are knowingly using multiculturalism to destroy the foundations of society and create a fake "New World of Happiness" Utopia run by themselves . Marcuse was hard at work on this in the 1960's - 70's with his popular calls for student activists to overthrow every kind of societal discipline or restraint.

    The conclusion is probably that this was the beginning of the end of racial integration, with the US set on its course towards Brazilianization with discord, race politics and gated communities.

  74. Svigor says:

    He articulated exactly how racially-conscious blacks (even half-white ones) feel, at best, about Western civilization in his time in Paris recounted in “Dreams From My Father”: “It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine.” At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit

    Evidence that Obama suffers from ‘suppressed rage’ sums to precisely zero. Petty spite, complacency, boredom, narcissism, &c you can see. Rage you cannot.

    Reading comprehension score: 0.

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  75. @Dahlia
    Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today. I'm always embarrassed for the other journalists when they retweet him because it means they're all about to follow him down some really stupid path. It's like they impose a Stop Think upon themselves when Bouie begins to reeeeeee!

    I think he was one of the first, or the first, to go into histrionics about Trump's speech. And of course this has turned out embarrassing for all of them. They say to never interfere when your enemy is destroying themselves, but they forgot to tell us that the spectacle would be so painful to watch.

    “Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today.”

    And that takes some doing.

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  76. Jake says:
    @Steve Sailer
    The extremism of the centrists these days is remarkable: e.g., Poland can't be allowed to be Polish. Poland must be driven down a path toward Warsaw and Krakow looking like Detroit in the name of fighting racism.

    That is how the Left, in America, the WASP Elite Left of Boston Brahmins and PA Quakers, has always been. Isn’t that what Reconstruction was really about? You Scots-Irish rednecks and hillbillies cannot even be allowed to have your own poor areas that we Yankee WASP Elites will run from Boston, New York, Philadelphia, and DC. No, we must make certain the Numinous Negro, our beloved pet, reigns over you in your own towns.

    When the Fed Gov began forcible integration of Northern cities, it did so by destroying Catholic neighborhoods by forcing blacks into Catholic areas. Polocks, Micks, and Wops were not allowed to be themselves and have their own neighborhoods. The Yankee WASP demanded they too, like the Scots-Irish rednecks, bow to the Numinous Negro.

    Jews ended up profiting most from that, but Jews did not initiate it: WASP Elites did. WASP Elites have always acted to help Jews while also putting the foot on the throats of the vast majority of white Gentiles they rule. And as soon as WASP Elites got used to blacks, they made them their #1 tool (Jews are the WASP’s #1 ally) with which to batter the ‘white trash.’

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  77. Clyde says:
    @Thomas

    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.
     
    White America will be waiting past the Second Coming for its own mystical redeemer: the Grateful Negro. Even Obama couldn't sell that. He articulated exactly how racially-conscious blacks (even half-white ones) feel, at best, about Western civilization in his time in Paris recounted in "Dreams From My Father": "It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine." At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit.

    At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit.

    Makes for a schizophrenic Obama situation because he (hi IQ* idiot) took/takes himself so seriously as a college boy. Many of today’s SJWs model themselves after this inner conflicted community organizer who failed at all his organizing efforts. It didn’t have to be this way for Obama, but it’s the life that he chose due to his pervy uncle Frank Marshall Davis mentoring. Who Obama’s grandfather recruited to be an authentic (yeah, right!) black mentor for Obama.

    *according to Steve
    _______
    Obama’s Red Mentor Was a Pervert – Accuracy in Media
    http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-red-mentor-was-a-pervert
    Obama’s Red Mentor Was a Pervert … picked Davis because Obama’s black father had abandoned the family and … Some accounts say that Obama returned to Hawaii in …

    Obama’s white half enslaved his black half and should pay out reparations. I suppose.

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    I am positive Frank Marshall Davis was more than a mentor. I'm positive he was obama's father. Commies grandpa Dunham and Davis were lifelong buddies.

    Mr. google has lots of information if you are interested. As he gets older, Obama looks more and more like Davis and less and less like the Kenyan.
  78. AaronB says:
    @Arclight
    Any half-conscious person understands that Europe and North America tower over every other civilization in terms of artistic, scientific, and cultural achievements. As penance for having lorded over other areas of the globe at various points in their histories, Europeans and Americans are supposed to hand over their cities and the benefits of their cultures to people who are basically history's losers.

    There are many things I do not like about Trump. However, the fact that he and/or members of his Administration recognize the need to preserve our society so that future generations can enjoy the same benefits that we did instead of turning it into Blade Runner makes me grateful Clinton was not elected. However, I hope he manages to become the great persuader Scott Adams imagines when it comes to the issue of civilizational preservation - so far I think he's only preaching to the choir, and we truly need a sea change in how Americans view this issue.

    Any half-conscious person understands that Europe and North America tower over every other civilization in terms of artistic, scientific, and cultural achievements.

    This is true.

    And because civilization is a huge mistake for mankind, the West needs to go under, more than any other culture. Western elites, who suffer from civilization more than most, instinctively understand this, and are working furiously to accomplish this noble task, even if consciously they don’t understand the historical significance of what they are doing.

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  79. Rod1963 says:
    @Arclight
    Any half-conscious person understands that Europe and North America tower over every other civilization in terms of artistic, scientific, and cultural achievements. As penance for having lorded over other areas of the globe at various points in their histories, Europeans and Americans are supposed to hand over their cities and the benefits of their cultures to people who are basically history's losers.

    There are many things I do not like about Trump. However, the fact that he and/or members of his Administration recognize the need to preserve our society so that future generations can enjoy the same benefits that we did instead of turning it into Blade Runner makes me grateful Clinton was not elected. However, I hope he manages to become the great persuader Scott Adams imagines when it comes to the issue of civilizational preservation - so far I think he's only preaching to the choir, and we truly need a sea change in how Americans view this issue.

    so far I think he’s only preaching to the choir, and we truly need a sea change in how Americans view this issue.

    If he includes aspects of his Poland speech at his rallies in the states, it would be a good start and would terrify the elites.

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  80. bomag says:
    @Beckow

    ...And if we fail to preserve it, it will never, ever exist again.”
     
    Bouie and Slate don't want to preserve anything, they hate it, they want it gone. They are in a proud tradition of Jacobins and Bolsheviks - they want a different world, with different people, a different calendar, different everything.

    As all lunatic visionaries they scream that it is simply inevitable, that there is no alternative. They refuse to discuss specific facts, or think through consequences, another sign of an utopian delusion that we have seen in the past. For example, how would it work with 7-10 billion people and 'open borders'? Would we all eventually end-up speaking a kind of pidgin English since complexity cannot survive in a global melting pot? Apart from inflating real estate in the West and providing an unlimited supply of cheap labor, how would this help the economy? Or help most people?

    The reason they don't want to think it through - as communists refused to think through how one would have an economy or even a concept of work after abolishing money - is that they are not interested in a viable society or civilization, all they want is to destroy what they hate, what we still partially have today. The labels they apply to all who disagree are there to cover up the emotional hatred that is driving them. So any discussion is almost impossible, as with all unhinged utopians. They don't want what we have to 'exist', Trump is never going to convince them. This is a who-whom moment.

    The labels they apply to all who disagree are there to cover up the emotional hatred that is driving them.

    Yeah, Bouie takes for granted that any whiff of nationalism from non-POC has been accepted by one and all as complete evil, so all he has to do is point it out, and a thundering herd of shock troops will descend and stamp it out.

    Note here that Bouie et al carefully and gleefully track the demise of YT through immigration and demographics. Initially, they will tell us about the economic boon we will be getting from the new peoples; but soon enough the mask comes off and they chortle at the punishment being meted out for all the past sins committed by the “wrong” people.

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  81. Eagle Eye says:
    @ANON
    According to Saker's latest rant, Trump should never have gone to Poland because Saker doesn't like Poland. Poland bad, Russia good says Saker in every article he writes.

    The Saker provides a highly intelligent perspective from an openly and honestly Russia-centric perspective. This does mean that he detests the Marches (aka the Ukraine) and takes a Russia-centric view of other neighboring polities such as Poland and three Baltic Dwarfs.

    One may of course disagree with The Saker on numerous points and indeed on his general worldview.

    What is undeniable is that the Saker provides a calm port of call amidst the gales of coordinated MSM lies and distortions aimed at triggering a hot war with Russia. In this, he is almost alone even in the Alternative Media landscape, and WHOLLY without equal among America’s Presstitute Class.

    The most amazing point is that anyone who actually LISTENED to Hillary Clinton’s campaign rhetoric would have noticed blatant dog whistles in support of the braying for blood and gold by the Military-Industrial-Media Complex. As Yogi Berra almost said, you can hear a lot by listening.

    For all his faults and compromises, President Trump is at most a 33% champion of the War Party where Hillary and her entourage (particularly the rabid, unmoored women) were 150% pro-war, pro-murder of working class whites, and of course pro-war profiteering and kickbacks for themselves and their well-connected friends with pizza and Blue Beard proclivities.

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    • Replies: @ANON
    I am certainly not in favor of war with Russia. But unlike some people I am not so grandiose as to believe my opinions can influence the US government.

    I don't read the media or watch TV news ever. I stopped believing the media a year or so after I finished college many years ago. My general rule about the MSM is to believe the opposite of what they write is the truth. During the Serbia Bosnia war I still read the Sunday paper. The papers and magazines were full of Serbia evil monsters Bosnia angelic victims. I didn't pay much attention but I knew that since the MSM was against Serbia the Serbs must be the good guys.

    I was right, the MSM was wrong.

    But I'm tired of saker's anti Poland rants inserted into every article even if the article is about Syria and Israel
  82. bomag says:
    @Arclight
    Any half-conscious person understands that Europe and North America tower over every other civilization in terms of artistic, scientific, and cultural achievements. As penance for having lorded over other areas of the globe at various points in their histories, Europeans and Americans are supposed to hand over their cities and the benefits of their cultures to people who are basically history's losers.

    There are many things I do not like about Trump. However, the fact that he and/or members of his Administration recognize the need to preserve our society so that future generations can enjoy the same benefits that we did instead of turning it into Blade Runner makes me grateful Clinton was not elected. However, I hope he manages to become the great persuader Scott Adams imagines when it comes to the issue of civilizational preservation - so far I think he's only preaching to the choir, and we truly need a sea change in how Americans view this issue.

    …the issue of civilizational preservation

    The Progressives and such are intent on giving it all away; to me, that seems to be the main driver. They are happy to import refugees et al and just let them have the place. The warm tingles of complete altruism seems to be what motivates the other side.

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  83. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    OT: Rahm Emanuel has moved headlong into crazy-ass social engineering.

    http://theantimedia.org/chicago-high-school-military/

    I suspect having an annoying, drug-using, worthless son who’s just passed through his teenage years, and who can’t figure out what he wants to do with his life has made Rahm lose his temper (or wise up).

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    • Replies: @BigRedEyeOfJupiter
    Millenial Jews are really losing the drive their parents and grandparents had. I suspect its the massive amount of pot they smoke. Seriously, has any pundit noted this? Seems like something they would be obsessing over.
  84. @Anon
    Nothing wrong with 'white nationalism' in a white nation like Poland.

    I mean... nothing wrong with black nationalism in black African nation.

    White Nationalism is wrong in non-white nation.

    It's like German nationalism is fine on German soil. Problem with WWII was it spread its power to Polish soil and then Russian soil.

    So, it's 'where, when'. When a people are Where they belong, in their homeland, they can have their nationalism.

    Problem of globalism is it is essentially Jewish nationalism uber non-Jewish nations.

    If that’s really true, why can’t Jews have an f-ing bigger country by now! World domination ought to mean something more than owning a bunch of Facebook shares.

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  85. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    F— Jamelle.

    Sailer plucks these retard radical leftist authors out for target practice. OK. It’s important to know exactly what kookery they are hatching.

    How about more targeting of the crypto scum supposedly on the American side? Drudge and FoxNews are relentlessly subversive to any notion of a non neocon future. They are more cloaked now but the agenda is the same as ever.

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  86. Rod1963 says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    There's an interesting inversion in the reactions to Trump's speech. Usually, the left tries to goad the right into saying something that's going to get them into trouble. Trump has managed to goad the left into defining themselves against Western civilization as it has been historically constituted.

    It's really quite amazing.

    The Left has always been against Western Civilization. Even as far back as the 40′s it was there. But in the last 30 or so years it’s become quite overt.

    Remember the war on Christmas and public displays? I do, our city back in the early 70′s used to have public displays of wreaths on the city boulevard and other items to celebrate Christmas, it was big in the schools as well.

    Then it vanished along with city prayer breakfasts. All thanks to the ACLU and ADL.

    In 1947 via a court ruling they excised religion(Christianity) out of public schools. That was their first move.

    The thing is we’ve been attacked for so long, we don’t even notice all the shit the Left is doing to us.

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  87. @ANON
    According to Saker's latest rant, Trump should never have gone to Poland because Saker doesn't like Poland. Poland bad, Russia good says Saker in every article he writes.

    I’m not going to get into a Russia vs. Poland argument, but there are a few fascinating stats to mention.

    Homicide rate per 100,000 inhabitants:

    Russia 11.31
    Poland 0.74

    That’s a stunning difference.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    (If you really want to get freaked out, look at the Central American stats and think about how many are bringing their violence to the USA.)

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    • Replies: @Saxon
    Poland is homogeneous and Russia really isn't. If the various populations of the Russian federation stayed largely in their own areas the rates might be lower.

    Central/South America is what you get at peak racemix/muh diversity, though. Single cities with a murder rate count and rate higher than the entirety of pre-enrichment western Europe.
  88. Eagle Eye says:
    @Thomas
    Bouie is even good enough to link to the Haaretz "Poland bad because they didn't like the Jews either" piece to explain why Poland has to abolish itself à la Germany.

    If anything is going to see Trump succeed, it might be the degree to which Trump Derangement among the left forces them to reflexively attack anything he stands for or speaks in favor of and defend anything that opposes Trump and the Deplorables. This week, it's been defending doxxing, jihad (Linda Sarsour), and attacking "the West." Even (or especially) the cuck National Review is eating up the Poland speech. Bouie shows how serious this derangement has gone, because the only way you read Trump's invocation of "the West" as categorically different from Reagan or Kennedy's similar speeches is by drinking Cult Marx Kool-Aid that only has much of a following on the far left.

    The logical next step is to turn the tables on the Cult Marxist and flip some of their favorite memes:

    (1) Opposing self-determination for Poland, Hungary and Austria away from Euro-cooption is RAAYYCISS and National Socialist.

    (This is literally true, of course.)

    (2) Importing Third-Worlders from Mexico and elsewhere is RAAYYCISS because it deprives those vibrant societies of the benefit of their footloose inverted elites.

    (3) Flooding the U.S. with ilegales throws native U.S. blacks under the bus.

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  89. MBlanc46 says:
    @Beckow

    ...And if we fail to preserve it, it will never, ever exist again.”
     
    Bouie and Slate don't want to preserve anything, they hate it, they want it gone. They are in a proud tradition of Jacobins and Bolsheviks - they want a different world, with different people, a different calendar, different everything.

    As all lunatic visionaries they scream that it is simply inevitable, that there is no alternative. They refuse to discuss specific facts, or think through consequences, another sign of an utopian delusion that we have seen in the past. For example, how would it work with 7-10 billion people and 'open borders'? Would we all eventually end-up speaking a kind of pidgin English since complexity cannot survive in a global melting pot? Apart from inflating real estate in the West and providing an unlimited supply of cheap labor, how would this help the economy? Or help most people?

    The reason they don't want to think it through - as communists refused to think through how one would have an economy or even a concept of work after abolishing money - is that they are not interested in a viable society or civilization, all they want is to destroy what they hate, what we still partially have today. The labels they apply to all who disagree are there to cover up the emotional hatred that is driving them. So any discussion is almost impossible, as with all unhinged utopians. They don't want what we have to 'exist', Trump is never going to convince them. This is a who-whom moment.

    What they hate. For example, Lenin spitting venom when referring to the monuments of the London that gave him refuge. It’s their hatred of the actual world that keeps them going.

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  90. @Thomas
    Bouie is even good enough to link to the Haaretz "Poland bad because they didn't like the Jews either" piece to explain why Poland has to abolish itself à la Germany.

    If anything is going to see Trump succeed, it might be the degree to which Trump Derangement among the left forces them to reflexively attack anything he stands for or speaks in favor of and defend anything that opposes Trump and the Deplorables. This week, it's been defending doxxing, jihad (Linda Sarsour), and attacking "the West." Even (or especially) the cuck National Review is eating up the Poland speech. Bouie shows how serious this derangement has gone, because the only way you read Trump's invocation of "the West" as categorically different from Reagan or Kennedy's similar speeches is by drinking Cult Marx Kool-Aid that only has much of a following on the far left.

    I’ve been getting convinced that the left has now been sucked into the black hole of its own ideology. It’s now gone past the point of no return. There’s something about identity politics that, over time, reaches a logical end point — absurd though it be — from which there is no psychological escape. Practical matters of negative political impact can no longer dissuade its adherents from the embrace of its fundamentalist tenets and their application to each and every situation that may arise.

    This is why Hillary Clinton (unlike her husband in an earlier era) couldn’t get a hair’s breadth of distance between herself and the most extreme immigration activists or BLM advocates. Nor do I see national Democrats managing to cleave such a separation for years to come.

    This makes them easy targets to destroy, of course. I think a good deal of Trump’s success comes from tossing about spikes which cause leftists to explode from their own internal pressures when they run into them.

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    • Replies: @Thea
    We need to be very careful not to fall into the same trap. Echo chambers pop up on our side, too.

    The real trick will be getting most whites to not care if they are called racist, sexist ....
  91. MBlanc46 says:
    @Arclight
    Any half-conscious person understands that Europe and North America tower over every other civilization in terms of artistic, scientific, and cultural achievements. As penance for having lorded over other areas of the globe at various points in their histories, Europeans and Americans are supposed to hand over their cities and the benefits of their cultures to people who are basically history's losers.

    There are many things I do not like about Trump. However, the fact that he and/or members of his Administration recognize the need to preserve our society so that future generations can enjoy the same benefits that we did instead of turning it into Blade Runner makes me grateful Clinton was not elected. However, I hope he manages to become the great persuader Scott Adams imagines when it comes to the issue of civilizational preservation - so far I think he's only preaching to the choir, and we truly need a sea change in how Americans view this issue.

    Perhaps instead of a sea change, which might not be possible, what we need is partition.

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  92. Thea says:
    @candid_observer
    I've been getting convinced that the left has now been sucked into the black hole of its own ideology. It's now gone past the point of no return. There's something about identity politics that, over time, reaches a logical end point -- absurd though it be -- from which there is no psychological escape. Practical matters of negative political impact can no longer dissuade its adherents from the embrace of its fundamentalist tenets and their application to each and every situation that may arise.

    This is why Hillary Clinton (unlike her husband in an earlier era) couldn't get a hair's breadth of distance between herself and the most extreme immigration activists or BLM advocates. Nor do I see national Democrats managing to cleave such a separation for years to come.

    This makes them easy targets to destroy, of course. I think a good deal of Trump's success comes from tossing about spikes which cause leftists to explode from their own internal pressures when they run into them.

    We need to be very careful not to fall into the same trap. Echo chambers pop up on our side, too.

    The real trick will be getting most whites to not care if they are called racist, sexist ….

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    • Replies: @Lurker

    The real trick will be getting most whites to not care if they are called racist, sexist
     
    I've probably said this here before - but the effect of reading (and then typing) thoughtcrime online has allowed me to say things IRL that I once wouldn't even allow myself to think inside my own head.
  93. MB says: • Website
    @whorefinder
    Trump's ability to mess with the media in real time is so amazingly precise and brilliant that I'm betting historians, political scientists, and psychologists of the future will devote multi-volume tomes to it.

    I don't want to overshoot and claim he's Caesar-like in playing at a whole 'nother level than his opponents (especially with the Shakespearean tragedy implication that brings), but...

    Trump's really reminding me of Caesar in his ability to not only anticipate his political opponents' next moves, but being able to anticipate the political landscape for the next generation and altering his tactics so that he can force his political opponents to make errors against themselves that will only make them look stupider in the future.

    It sounds like hyperbole, but quite frankly I'm believing it. Trump's that freakin' good.

    No. All Drumpf is doing at least some of the time is stating the obvious. Which is all you got to do with these morons to make them flip out.

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  94. @Thomas

    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.
     
    White America will be waiting past the Second Coming for its own mystical redeemer: the Grateful Negro. Even Obama couldn't sell that. He articulated exactly how racially-conscious blacks (even half-white ones) feel, at best, about Western civilization in his time in Paris recounted in "Dreams From My Father": "It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine." At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit.

    Thats the black man for ya. European civilization? “That’s not mine.” My new kindle fire? “That’s mine.”

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    Musk is worried about the low fertility rate in the developed world. Musk, btw, has 5 living children and 1 child who passed away from SIDS (only people with kids can truly imagine what a nightmare that would be).
  96. Meanwhile, here’s a review on a book about Development Aid Warriors:

    https://dystopiasoak.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-development-aid-warrior.html

    All in all, the book is both funny and well written.

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  97. Clyde says:
    @whorefinder
    Trump's ability to mess with the media in real time is so amazingly precise and brilliant that I'm betting historians, political scientists, and psychologists of the future will devote multi-volume tomes to it.

    I don't want to overshoot and claim he's Caesar-like in playing at a whole 'nother level than his opponents (especially with the Shakespearean tragedy implication that brings), but...

    Trump's really reminding me of Caesar in his ability to not only anticipate his political opponents' next moves, but being able to anticipate the political landscape for the next generation and altering his tactics so that he can force his political opponents to make errors against themselves that will only make them look stupider in the future.

    It sounds like hyperbole, but quite frankly I'm believing it. Trump's that freakin' good.

    Trump’s ability to mess with the media in real time is so amazingly precise and brilliant that I’m betting historians, political scientists, and psychologists of the future will devote multi-volume tomes to it.
    It sounds like hyperbole, but quite frankly I’m believing it. Trump’s that freakin’ good.

    Trump is not a one man show. Steve Bannon and other staff strategize on these anti-media hi-jinx and are having some good laughs and giggles. Sarah Huckabee Sanders too? It is called disruption. My take at least.

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  98. @whorefinder
    Trump's ability to mess with the media in real time is so amazingly precise and brilliant that I'm betting historians, political scientists, and psychologists of the future will devote multi-volume tomes to it.

    I don't want to overshoot and claim he's Caesar-like in playing at a whole 'nother level than his opponents (especially with the Shakespearean tragedy implication that brings), but...

    Trump's really reminding me of Caesar in his ability to not only anticipate his political opponents' next moves, but being able to anticipate the political landscape for the next generation and altering his tactics so that he can force his political opponents to make errors against themselves that will only make them look stupider in the future.

    It sounds like hyperbole, but quite frankly I'm believing it. Trump's that freakin' good.

    I agree with you. Which makes it more amazing when the commenters in niche blogs that Trump made mainstream have the arrogance to comment about how stupid/foolish Trump is.

    Trump is inside his enemy’s OODA loop and their own ideology is making it impossible for him to be dislodged.

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  99. syonredux says:

    Poland can’t be allowed to be Polish.

    You might think that after all the Polish people have gone through since 1795, we could allow an exception in the case of Poland.

    But, no, any mercy would be racist. Warsaw must be turned into Detroit in order to crush white nationalism.

    Imagine thinking that Poland deserves to survive.How un-Woke. Let Bouie open your eyes, Steve:

    That is the key context for President Trump’s recent remarks in Warsaw, Poland, where he made a defense of “Western civilization.” He praised Poland’s resilience in the face of Nazi aggression and Soviet domination (and stayed quiet on Nazi collaboration within Poland),

    Some Poles collaborated with the Nazis during WW2. Therefore, Poland is forever tainted. Didn’t you see Schindler’s List, Steve?

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    • Replies: @newrouter
    "Some Poles collaborated with the Nazis during WW2. Therefore, Poland is forever tainted. Didn’t you see Schindler’s List, Steve?"

    Bouie might not want to go there as one of the first slave owners in America was a Negro.
    , @German_reader

    Some Poles collaborated with the Nazis during WW2. Therefore, Poland is forever tainted.
     
    It's really weird how Western "progressives" seem to believe there was some massive Polish collaboration with the Nazis for which today's Poles have to atone...just bizarre.
  100. @Thomas

    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.
     
    White America will be waiting past the Second Coming for its own mystical redeemer: the Grateful Negro. Even Obama couldn't sell that. He articulated exactly how racially-conscious blacks (even half-white ones) feel, at best, about Western civilization in his time in Paris recounted in "Dreams From My Father": "It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine." At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit.

    “you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit.”

    Well, technically, Obama’s ancestors weren’t enslaved, if anything, they were the slavers. But yes, I agree with your larger point: that by going all-in with coalition of the parasitical fringes, he cut himself off from all of history’s greatest achievements, so envy, resentment and hatred are the only reaction he can have.

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    Well, technically, Obama’s ancestors weren’t enslaved, if anything, they were the slavers.
     
    This depends on whether Barry Dunham "Obama" regards himself as descended from British-Kenyan student Barack Obama, or from his grandfather's African-American buddy, the communist writer and pornographer Marshall Davis.

    CIA surveillance documents on Obama Sr. "dumped" shortly after Barry's first inauguration refer to his mother as "Miss Dunham." This implies that her alleged marriage to Obama never happened. Most likely, the claim of marriage to Barack Obama Sr. was just a social white lie to prettify the fact of an illegitimate birth in the early 1960s. The biological paternity of Barry Dunham is, of course, a separate issue.

    Barry's own later words and actions certainly evince a strong sense of "identification" with a 1970s/1980s romantic college view of the "Third World," no doubt reinforced from an early age by his mother's affiliation with the World Bank etc.

  101. @Steve Sailer
    The extremism of the centrists these days is remarkable: e.g., Poland can't be allowed to be Polish. Poland must be driven down a path toward Warsaw and Krakow looking like Detroit in the name of fighting racism.

    “Warsaw must be turned into Detroit in order to crush white nationalism.” Irony that Detroit mayor “Soulman” Young turned a thriving Poletown of Detroit in to a shit hole by invading the majority Polish section in 1981 on behalf of GM. The “powers that be” didn’t care about this invasion on Poles either.

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  102. Lurker says:
    @Thea
    We need to be very careful not to fall into the same trap. Echo chambers pop up on our side, too.

    The real trick will be getting most whites to not care if they are called racist, sexist ....

    The real trick will be getting most whites to not care if they are called racist, sexist

    I’ve probably said this here before – but the effect of reading (and then typing) thoughtcrime online has allowed me to say things IRL that I once wouldn’t even allow myself to think inside my own head.

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    Steve may see that as evidence of his Sappir-Whorff-like hypothesis.
  103. @Lurker

    The real trick will be getting most whites to not care if they are called racist, sexist
     
    I've probably said this here before - but the effect of reading (and then typing) thoughtcrime online has allowed me to say things IRL that I once wouldn't even allow myself to think inside my own head.

    Steve may see that as evidence of his Sappir-Whorff-like hypothesis.

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  104. syonredux says:

    Trump would restore American greatness by erasing the racial legacy of Obama’s presidency: the Hispanic immigration, the Muslim refugees, the black protesters.

    Sure, I know that Obama shouldn’t get all the credit for allowing in hordes of Hispanics….In all fairness, I probably should have tipped-the-hat to the efforts of GHW Bush…..

    This is the reason Trump’s campaign attracted, and his administration employs, men like Jeff Sessions, Stephen Bannon, and Stephen Miller. Sessions, a staunch opponent of federal civil rights enforcement and proponent of radical immigration restriction. Miller, his protégé, whose young career is marked by the same contempt for racial pluralism.

    Don’t get any crazy ideas. I’m not suggesting that racial pluralism is a good thing in countries that are POC-dominated. It’s just a useful tactic for destroying Western countries….

    Each shares a vision of a (white) America under siege from Hispanic immigration to the South and Islam to the East.

    Which is true, of course….but White people aren’t supposed to notice what’s going on….

    In the context of terrorism specifically, a deadly threat but not an existential one, this is overheated. But it’s clear Trump has something else in mind: immigration. He’s analogizing Muslim migration to a superpower-directed struggle for ideological conquest. It’s why he mentions “borders,” why he speaks of threats from “the South”—the origin point of Hispanic immigrants to the United States and Muslim refugees to Europe—and why he warns of internal danger.

    Look, bigot, White people are supposed to be OK with their extinction. Only POC have a right to survival…..

    To read those previous presidential speeches is to see what makes Trump distinctive. Kennedy and Reagan defined “the West” in ideological terms—a world of free elections and free markets. It’s an inclusive view; presumably, any country that adopts these institutions enters that community of nations.

    Do the Japanese think that they are Western? What about the people of India? Do they think that believing in “free markets” and “free elections” makes a country Western?

    What makes this racial is its relationship to Trump’s other rhetoric. If Western civilization is defined by religion and culture, then Mexico—with its Catholic heritage and historic ties to European monarchies—is unquestionably an outpost of “the West.” But for Trump and his advisers, it too is a threat to the Western order.

    Do La Raza activists think that Mexico is a Western country? I’ve known quite a few Latinx academics who would be insulted if you said that they were Westerners….

    As for race= culture…..Well, Mr Bouie, I’m sure that you’ve met quite a few Black Americans who believe in the one-drop rule. Why not ask them if they think that a White person can adopt Black culture…..

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  105. Ed says:

    African-Americans for all of their bluster have low cultural self-esteem. Understandable due to their history of slavery and oppression.

    Since they have low ethnic pride they are threatened when others exhibit a strong sense of it, especially whites. Bouie is just part of that, he himself is married to a white woman & most of his writing about race has to do with what whites can do for blacks.

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    I never heard of Jamelle Bouie before, but it looks like there's a huge market on the left for non-scary black guys. I'm guessing that's what has made Genius T. Coates so popular (and affluent). Perhaps the idea is that it's a cheap way for the elites to keep the peace.

    The other strategy is to pay off people like Sharpton to moderate their views.

    I'd prefer a more honest and meritocratic approach, but I can see the logic of it.
    , @Desiderius
    You've got this exactly backwards.

    Blacks thrive around confident whites.
  106. Here’s a “We can’t have nice things any more” story from Sweden:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/the-music-festival-where-no-men-are-allowed

    “The Music Festival Where No Men Are Allowed

    A disturbing wave of rape allegations at music festivals has led a Swedish radio host to plan a women-only music fest.”

    No mention of the ethnicity or religion of the offenders, but heavy hints that they were Scandi versions of Haven Monahan.

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  107. What’s better – White Nationalism or Christian Nationalism?

    I define Whites as ethnic Europeans – with perhaps a few edge cases like Lebanese Christians.

    The problem with White Nationalism is the who-is-white issue. Christian Nationalism would perhaps be more international. There are plenty of African and Korean Christians for instance. Now, you might not like fufu or bibimbap, but at least Christians, whatever their origin, have a moral base which you could live with. A minimum viable morality.

    The other thing with Christianity is that there are many people who do not practise it – or believe it (I don’t) – but are culturally Christian. They have it in their upbringing and ancestors.

    What we need is a political Christian Nationalism – a kind of Christian Zionism. Which allows cultural Christians (even atheists) and converts to Christianity to live as they wish. Remember that Theodor Herzl was an atheist.

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    • Replies: @Tony
    Yeah right. We have all the Christians we need coming over the mexican border.
    , @AM

    What we need is a political Christian Nationalism – a kind of Christian Zionism. Which allows cultural Christians (even atheists) and converts to Christianity to live as they wish.
     
    We have that right now. It's called the Democratic party. All the warm fuzzies of Christianity, all the "No Rules, Just Right" of atheism. Social Justice! Abortions! Give to poor people! Free birth control for everyone!

    The "magic" doesn't work unless people actually try to believe and work at what Christianity teaches. Most Christians are quite happy to share cultural Christianity anyway.

    , @The True and Original David
    "Remember that Theodor Herzl was an atheist."

    Good point, but the more essential thing about Herzl is that he was an ethno-nationalist (in Current Year lingo).

    And we already have Christian Zionism. It seems Jesus was a Jew (imagine that) and Israel is his prophet. John Hagee is a notable adept. The flip side is Christian Identity which says non-Jews are Jews and Jews are not Jewish, so non-Jews must inherit the earth because they are Jewish. Or something. No thanks to both.

  108. Rob McX says:
    @Svigor

    …And if we fail to preserve it, it will never, ever exist again.”
     
    Race falls into this category. No ideal, value, or practice does.

    An ideal or practice will cease to exist if the only race that’s capable of it goes extinct.

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  109. newrouter says:
    @syonredux

    Poland can’t be allowed to be Polish.

    You might think that after all the Polish people have gone through since 1795, we could allow an exception in the case of Poland.

    But, no, any mercy would be racist. Warsaw must be turned into Detroit in order to crush white nationalism.
     
    Imagine thinking that Poland deserves to survive.How un-Woke. Let Bouie open your eyes, Steve:

    That is the key context for President Trump’s recent remarks in Warsaw, Poland, where he made a defense of “Western civilization.” He praised Poland’s resilience in the face of Nazi aggression and Soviet domination (and stayed quiet on Nazi collaboration within Poland),
     
    Some Poles collaborated with the Nazis during WW2. Therefore, Poland is forever tainted. Didn't you see Schindler's List, Steve?

    “Some Poles collaborated with the Nazis during WW2. Therefore, Poland is forever tainted. Didn’t you see Schindler’s List, Steve?”

    Bouie might not want to go there as one of the first slave owners in America was a Negro.

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    • Replies: @syonredux

    “Some Poles collaborated with the Nazis during WW2. Therefore, Poland is forever tainted. Didn’t you see Schindler’s List, Steve?”

    Bouie might not want to go there as one of the first slave owners in America was a Negro.
     
    Wasn't his fault.White society made him own slaves.

    #BlackLivesMatter
    , @Peripatetic commenter

    Bouie might not want to go there as one of the first slave owners in America was a Negro.
     
    Perhaps you are referring to this man:

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Anthony_Johnson_(colonist)

    However, there seems to be a considerable period between 1640 (John Punch) and 1653.
  110. @Peripatetic commenter
    Whoa, Steve, has Elon Musk been reading your blog postings?

    https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/07/elon-musk-is-concerned-about-peak-population-of-developed-countries.html

    Musk is worried about the low fertility rate in the developed world. Musk, btw, has 5 living children and 1 child who passed away from SIDS (only people with kids can truly imagine what a nightmare that would be).

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  111. @Ed
    African-Americans for all of their bluster have low cultural self-esteem. Understandable due to their history of slavery and oppression.

    Since they have low ethnic pride they are threatened when others exhibit a strong sense of it, especially whites. Bouie is just part of that, he himself is married to a white woman & most of his writing about race has to do with what whites can do for blacks.

    I never heard of Jamelle Bouie before, but it looks like there’s a huge market on the left for non-scary black guys. I’m guessing that’s what has made Genius T. Coates so popular (and affluent). Perhaps the idea is that it’s a cheap way for the elites to keep the peace.

    The other strategy is to pay off people like Sharpton to moderate their views.

    I’d prefer a more honest and meritocratic approach, but I can see the logic of it.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius

    there’s a huge market on the left for non-scary black guys
     
    It's not the Left, it's the status conscious.

    Naivete about race is a status marker, as only those who can afford to segregate themselves are that naive.
    , @The True and Original David
    The decline from Garvey to Bouie is remarkable.
  112. @Art Deco
    He articulated exactly how racially-conscious blacks (even half-white ones) feel, at best, about Western civilization in his time in Paris recounted in “Dreams From My Father”: “It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine.” At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit

    Evidence that Obama suffers from 'suppressed rage' sums to precisely zero. Petty spite, complacency, boredom, narcissism, &c you can see. Rage you cannot. Of course it was not 'his'. His upbringing was 70% Honolulu and 30% Java, and Java made no impression on him, something you can tell when you see that video of him struggling to utter a few sentences in the Malay trader's dialect that's used as a lingua franca there. The haolie population of Honolulu has some people with history there, but it's mostly a jumble of people from somewhere else who fancied the climate. His grandparents never stayed longer than five years in one place during the period running from 1940 to 1960. No place is his but Honolulu. As for Honolulu, it's the Japs' world; with few exceptions, the haolies there are just livin' in it. It isn't really his, either.

    Yeah Hawaii isn’t really anybody’s home anymore. My cousin lived there with her husband and son for 5 years, as a doctor and an investment broker. They had dough, a beautiful home on Oahu, and perfect beaches. But as soon as their son graduated from HS they left for Tucson. Tucson. They just couldn’t see a future in HI, and neither could their high-achieving boy.

    Another cousin is bailing on his condo on Maui to go back to Fairbanks. Of course, he’ll go back to Maui for vacations. I doubt anybody could live long-term in Fairbanks.

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  113. syonredux says:
    @newrouter
    "Some Poles collaborated with the Nazis during WW2. Therefore, Poland is forever tainted. Didn’t you see Schindler’s List, Steve?"

    Bouie might not want to go there as one of the first slave owners in America was a Negro.

    “Some Poles collaborated with the Nazis during WW2. Therefore, Poland is forever tainted. Didn’t you see Schindler’s List, Steve?”

    Bouie might not want to go there as one of the first slave owners in America was a Negro.

    Wasn’t his fault.White society made him own slaves.

    #BlackLivesMatter

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  114. newrouter says:
    @syonredux

    “Some Poles collaborated with the Nazis during WW2. Therefore, Poland is forever tainted. Didn’t you see Schindler’s List, Steve?”

    Bouie might not want to go there as one of the first slave owners in America was a Negro.
     
    Wasn't his fault.White society made him own slaves.

    #BlackLivesMatter

    lol The devil made me do it.

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  115. @syonredux

    Poland can’t be allowed to be Polish.

    You might think that after all the Polish people have gone through since 1795, we could allow an exception in the case of Poland.

    But, no, any mercy would be racist. Warsaw must be turned into Detroit in order to crush white nationalism.
     
    Imagine thinking that Poland deserves to survive.How un-Woke. Let Bouie open your eyes, Steve:

    That is the key context for President Trump’s recent remarks in Warsaw, Poland, where he made a defense of “Western civilization.” He praised Poland’s resilience in the face of Nazi aggression and Soviet domination (and stayed quiet on Nazi collaboration within Poland),
     
    Some Poles collaborated with the Nazis during WW2. Therefore, Poland is forever tainted. Didn't you see Schindler's List, Steve?

    Some Poles collaborated with the Nazis during WW2. Therefore, Poland is forever tainted.

    It’s really weird how Western “progressives” seem to believe there was some massive Polish collaboration with the Nazis for which today’s Poles have to atone…just bizarre.

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    • Replies: @newrouter
    "seem to believe there was some massive Polish collaboration with the Nazis for which today’s Poles have to atone…just bizarre."

    Troubling is more apt. Cultist sensing the demise of their belief systems and with a huge megaphone panicing. Thank Divine Providence that Felonia Pantsuit isn't the President.
    , @ANON
    That's Jewish propaganda. For decades Jews have claimed that the Germans established Ausshwitz in Poland was because the Poles wanted it. They also claim that Poles slaughtered Jews.

    Consensus among the Jews I know is that the mere fact that Trump visited Poland, the "most anti Semitic " nation on earth is proof that Trump is anti Semitic and will "betray" Israel
  116. Tony says:
    @TelfoedJohn
    What's better - White Nationalism or Christian Nationalism?

    I define Whites as ethnic Europeans - with perhaps a few edge cases like Lebanese Christians.

    The problem with White Nationalism is the who-is-white issue. Christian Nationalism would perhaps be more international. There are plenty of African and Korean Christians for instance. Now, you might not like fufu or bibimbap, but at least Christians, whatever their origin, have a moral base which you could live with. A minimum viable morality.

    The other thing with Christianity is that there are many people who do not practise it - or believe it (I don't) - but are culturally Christian. They have it in their upbringing and ancestors.

    What we need is a political Christian Nationalism - a kind of Christian Zionism. Which allows cultural Christians (even atheists) and converts to Christianity to live as they wish. Remember that Theodor Herzl was an atheist.

    Yeah right. We have all the Christians we need coming over the mexican border.

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    • Replies: @TelfoedJohn
    I see what you mean, but at least they are not going to shout Allahu Akbar in a crowd.
  117. @Anonymous
    Many would read Bouie and read no intent to destroy and remake society, only a call for the West to live up to its own ideals. If the West has ever been racist, or shown some kind of ethnic chauvinism, or had borders, well, that's just the West not living up to its own ideals, they think.

    How did they manage to get so many ordinary, older, educated but not particularly intellectual, and not at all revolutionary types, who think that Western society as it stands so far is pretty good, to believe that there's no reason the rest of the world can't be invited to join in, that Western values and mass non-Western immigration are compatible -- perhaps even that the former are so awe-inspiring as to compel assimilation into them -- and it's racist (and therefore a failure to live up to Western ideals) to believe otherwise?

    By not having idiots like Bouie making the case.

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  118. @Judah Benjamin Hur
    I never heard of Jamelle Bouie before, but it looks like there's a huge market on the left for non-scary black guys. I'm guessing that's what has made Genius T. Coates so popular (and affluent). Perhaps the idea is that it's a cheap way for the elites to keep the peace.

    The other strategy is to pay off people like Sharpton to moderate their views.

    I'd prefer a more honest and meritocratic approach, but I can see the logic of it.

    there’s a huge market on the left for non-scary black guys

    It’s not the Left, it’s the status conscious.

    Naivete about race is a status marker, as only those who can afford to segregate themselves are that naive.

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  119. @Ed
    African-Americans for all of their bluster have low cultural self-esteem. Understandable due to their history of slavery and oppression.

    Since they have low ethnic pride they are threatened when others exhibit a strong sense of it, especially whites. Bouie is just part of that, he himself is married to a white woman & most of his writing about race has to do with what whites can do for blacks.

    You’ve got this exactly backwards.

    Blacks thrive around confident whites.

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  120. @Anonymous
    Jean Raspail is a traditionalist Catholic. Same with Pat Buchanan, late Joe Sobran (convert), Belloc, Chesterton, ... It seems like the traditionalist Catholics were way ahead of the curve. When most conservatives were still arguing that lower tax rates and selling "conservative" principles would save our civilization, PJB was out there saying- with a karate chop hand motion- "Nope, it's all about demography my friend."

    Joe Sobran was no supporter of immigration control. I subscribed to his newsletter but let my subscription lapse after he wrote that he couldn’t picture Jesus standing at the border and forbidding entry to Mexicans.

    Sobran also wrote that when he saw American youth with their piercings and tattoos he couldn’t imagine how a Hispanic inflow could be any worse. (Guess he didn’t encounter any MS13 types with their face tattoos.)

    Sobran developed some concern about immigration after reading one of Pat Buchanan’s books, but the fact that it had taken him so long to take notice of so fundamental an issue made me lose respect for him.

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    • Replies: @ANON
    Sobran was what I call a fuddy duddy conservative. Totally useless.
  121. newrouter says:
    @German_reader

    Some Poles collaborated with the Nazis during WW2. Therefore, Poland is forever tainted.
     
    It's really weird how Western "progressives" seem to believe there was some massive Polish collaboration with the Nazis for which today's Poles have to atone...just bizarre.

    “seem to believe there was some massive Polish collaboration with the Nazis for which today’s Poles have to atone…just bizarre.”

    Troubling is more apt. Cultist sensing the demise of their belief systems and with a huge megaphone panicing. Thank Divine Providence that Felonia Pantsuit isn’t the President.

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  122. AM says:
    @TelfoedJohn
    What's better - White Nationalism or Christian Nationalism?

    I define Whites as ethnic Europeans - with perhaps a few edge cases like Lebanese Christians.

    The problem with White Nationalism is the who-is-white issue. Christian Nationalism would perhaps be more international. There are plenty of African and Korean Christians for instance. Now, you might not like fufu or bibimbap, but at least Christians, whatever their origin, have a moral base which you could live with. A minimum viable morality.

    The other thing with Christianity is that there are many people who do not practise it - or believe it (I don't) - but are culturally Christian. They have it in their upbringing and ancestors.

    What we need is a political Christian Nationalism - a kind of Christian Zionism. Which allows cultural Christians (even atheists) and converts to Christianity to live as they wish. Remember that Theodor Herzl was an atheist.

    What we need is a political Christian Nationalism – a kind of Christian Zionism. Which allows cultural Christians (even atheists) and converts to Christianity to live as they wish.

    We have that right now. It’s called the Democratic party. All the warm fuzzies of Christianity, all the “No Rules, Just Right” of atheism. Social Justice! Abortions! Give to poor people! Free birth control for everyone!

    The “magic” doesn’t work unless people actually try to believe and work at what Christianity teaches. Most Christians are quite happy to share cultural Christianity anyway.

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    • Replies: @ANON
    80 percent of planned parenthood abortions are black women. Nationwide the ratio of black to White abortions is 4 to 1. Hispanics have the highest rate of abortions of all the races.

    Praise the lord, thank you Jesus for abortion. We're it not for abortion there would have been millions more blacks and Hispanics born since 1970. Think how high the crime rates would be if not for abortion. Think about affirmative action, violent schools, screeching N words spending the day on the bus benches in front of 7-11s.

    As far as the declining percentage of Whites goes, the solution is not Whites having more children but other races having fewer children. The reason non Whites are such a huge percentage isn't natural increase, its our government allowing cannibal capitalism to hire and import non Whites so as to gradually eliminate American Whites.

    Free birth control? The best thing for Whites would be free compulsory birth control for non Whites. Of course cannibal capitalism would still import non Whites to replace us.

    If anti abortion is the rallying cry of White conservatives we are lost. The anti abortion crew would better serve Whites by fighting affirmative action, and immigration legal and illegal

    Conservative complain about the taxes Whites pay to support blacks in prison and on life long welfare. For every black and Hispanic baby aborted that's one less useless eater who will be supported by Whites all his or her life.

    Those anti abortion preachers and activists are traitors to the White race.
  123. @Tony
    Yeah right. We have all the Christians we need coming over the mexican border.

    I see what you mean, but at least they are not going to shout Allahu Akbar in a crowd.

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    So your best recommendation for the immivaders is, "Well, at least they're not jihadis!"?

    ...

    A tranny hooker on a street corner has a bad, highly-visible case of herpes. One of her potential clients points this out to her.

    "Well, at least I don't have AIDS!" she retorts.

    The client thinks about it for a minute, then unlocks the passenger-side door.

    "Hop in. And don't forget that, if the cops stop us, I'm only giving you a ride because your car broke down."

    "Whatever you say, Eddie."
  124. @notice
    If one wants to troll Jamelle Bouie, simply equate Marin County with Poland in his comment section under his articles. In fact, the Hamptons, New Canaan Connecticut, Upper West Side, East Suffolk County and several other domestic "Poland's" we have amongst us, ripe for enrichment. Sarcastically tease Bouie about the Warsaw's we have here, and what columns will he write decrying them. His readers need to be woke against them, etc.

    He probably does actually believe that those polities need to be forcefully…diversified, though, since he’s a subscriber to Nobel laureate/Mensa member/Royal Society president Ta-Nehisi Coates’ theory that redlining in the FDR era explains why blacks today have an unfortunate tendency to commit violent crimes/do poorly in school/have children out of wedlock.

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  125. Saxon says:
    @Judah Benjamin Hur
    I'm not going to get into a Russia vs. Poland argument, but there are a few fascinating stats to mention.

    Homicide rate per 100,000 inhabitants:


    Russia 11.31
    Poland 0.74

    That's a stunning difference.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    (If you really want to get freaked out, look at the Central American stats and think about how many are bringing their violence to the USA.)

    Poland is homogeneous and Russia really isn’t. If the various populations of the Russian federation stayed largely in their own areas the rates might be lower.

    Central/South America is what you get at peak racemix/muh diversity, though. Single cities with a murder rate count and rate higher than the entirety of pre-enrichment western Europe.

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  126. Even worse, Steve, is Frederick E Terman Highway in the heart of Silicon Valley.

    It has to be renamed to Trayvon Martin Way with speed!

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  127. Thea says:
    @Waylon 347
    One point that is rarely made when referring to "The Camp of The Saints "is that the current situation is worse though not nearly as dramatic ( Merkel's 2015 idiocy aside ) . Muslims or Hindus ? Who will be a bigger fifth column down the line ? When this question is answered honestly it's obvious . Gotta admit I haven't read the book - yet .

    An argument could made that the west should have allied with the Muslims against Israel after WWII. We’d still have problems, they just be different ones.

    Hindus are problematic in their own way. Muslims treat women far better than they do and Islamic toilet habits are better. The Hindus we get are mostly educated in a Western style system. Indians from the country side still like to kill or ostracize widows and poop right where their crops grow.

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    An argument could made that the west should have allied with the Muslims against Israel after WWII. We’d still have problems, they just be different ones.

    "The Muslims" were not arrayed against Israel in 1948. Both Iran and Turkey maintained diplomatic relations with Israel until 1979. Five Arab states went to war with Israel in 1948 (in addition to the Husseini irregulars). There were three other sovereign Arab states around at that time who I think took similar diplomatic stances. It's unlikely that Pres. Truman or anyone else anticipated that this conflict would drag on for 7 decades and encompass in some way dozens of other countries with no common border with Israel.

    , @ANON
    The Indian government had a big toilet campaign. The placed advanced outhouses in every village. The outhouses had very deep holes and hoppers full of lime to dissolve the solids.

    But no one would use them. The campaign was a failure. A lot of landlords absolutely will not rent to Indians because Indians don't clean their homes. In India the educated middle classes don't clean, they have very low paid servants. There are plenty of Hispanic cleaners in America but after they see an Indian home they quit.
  128. @Judah Benjamin Hur
    If that's really true, why can't Jews have an f-ing bigger country by now! World domination ought to mean something more than owning a bunch of Facebook shares.

    Country’s were supposed to be obsolete by now.

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  129. Thea says:
    @Crawfurdmuir

    Trump has managed to goad the left into defining themselves against Western civilization as it has been historically constituted.
     
    The left has been against it all along. Their views have been evident for years to those that were paying attention. If Trump has forced them to be even more candid, so much the better.

    Yep! Jesse Jackson chanted “hey hey, ho ho Western Civ has got to go” at Stanford in the 1990s.

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  130. Thea says:
    @Anon7
    No, not like Detroit... but close. How about Hamtramck, Michigan? In 1970, the town was 90% Polish; that's where you went to get real pączki on Fat Tuesday.


    Many of those former Polish residents still flock back here each week for the Polish language Mass at St. Florian Roman Catholic Church. It's a majestic neo-Gothic structure, with beautiful stained-glass windows and an elaborate turquoise spire that rises high above Poland Street.

    The Hamtramck they knew had changed. "It's now more like a Bangladeshi town, so, that's a different story," says Fidler. "Seems like, you know, they were basically taking over."

    That loss of identity can be uncomfortable. St. Florian's priest, Miroslaw Frankowski, recalls his first impression of this city when he arrived in Hamtramck about 10 years ago.

    "I'm almost like in Cairo," he says, "because you know, the call for the prayer — and people covered up under clothings typical for Middle East. Yeah, it seemed like I'm working in Middle East."

    In Hamtramck streets, it's common now to see women fully veiled, with only their eyes exposed. The amplified Muslim call to prayer was a source of controversy here some years back, and still can raise hackles...

    Salah Hadwan, 27, takes us inside to meet his family, and right away, his mother is brewing tea for us and his brothers get busy ordering takeout Yemeni food for lunch.

    On the refrigerator, right next to Arabic script reading "God is the greatest," there's a red, white and blue oval sticker printed with two words: "I voted."

    Hadwan suggests that their diverse city should serve as a model. He says, "I wish there was a mini-Hamtramck in every state."

    http://www.npr.org/2017/03/28/519017217/hamtramck-michigan-an-evolving-city-of-immigrants

     

    Also North Africa was once Christian. A very long time ago.

    Will our descendants say that about Michigan?

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  131. @newrouter
    "Some Poles collaborated with the Nazis during WW2. Therefore, Poland is forever tainted. Didn’t you see Schindler’s List, Steve?"

    Bouie might not want to go there as one of the first slave owners in America was a Negro.

    Bouie might not want to go there as one of the first slave owners in America was a Negro.

    Perhaps you are referring to this man:

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Anthony_Johnson_(colonist)

    However, there seems to be a considerable period between 1640 (John Punch) and 1653.

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  132. Tiny Duck says:
    @Dahlia
    Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today. I'm always embarrassed for the other journalists when they retweet him because it means they're all about to follow him down some really stupid path. It's like they impose a Stop Think upon themselves when Bouie begins to reeeeeee!

    I think he was one of the first, or the first, to go into histrionics about Trump's speech. And of course this has turned out embarrassing for all of them. They say to never interfere when your enemy is destroying themselves, but they forgot to tell us that the spectacle would be so painful to watch.

    Huh?

    Progressives are winning on pretty much every front. You need to venture outside your echo chamber once in awhile.

    Bouie is a well respected journalist. Only a weirdo would think his analysis unworthy.

    Most people here are lonely old white men so I wouldn’t. Expect youse to get beer stand the ascendant new majority

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    Expect youse to get beer stand the ascendant new majority
     
    Time to take your meds, my friend.

    Maybe you should submit another inane comment. If it's sufficiently incoherent, then we might have to call you an ambulance.
    , @fish

    I like Jamelle Bouie....his horn rimmed glasses are darling.

    - Leonard Pitts
     
  133. @neutral
    I get you are a neocon and that you want Russia to become another "ally" of the USA (and lets all be sincere here, we all know exactly what the word ally implies). I want to go beyond this debate however, I want to know what your end goal is here, I want to know what kind of ideal world you envisage, because those that reject your camp of the saints "invade the world, invite the world" can really not see it as anything other than dystopian.

    Don’t know a thing ’bout Anon 2 or others.

    But, there are a lot of people who escaped Russia’s long arm of the law, or else who were dealt a bad hand there, who crash-landed in America or Britain. These folks have personal scores to settle.

    It’s like living in a city that, to you, is a hellhole. When you finally move to another city, you may find it difficult not to speak poorly about your former home at every opportunity. Now multiple that animus tenfold in the case of individuals who are naturally politically aggressive – the kind who, for example, were in power but are now out of it, or whose attempted subversion of their old country (“reform,” by their lights) failed, or simply (as above) crooks whose rackets were ankled or only disincentivized – and you end up with a pack of malcontents who would see the whole green Earth burn up in an atomic fire if it meant that the dirty dogs back home burned first.

    Khodorkovsky’s “Open Russia” (wiki it) seems to be one of the watering holes for this type of individual. Every time I see a daft anti-Russian tweet with odd grammar and British thumbmarks, including an author name like “Casper Eddington Whittier,” I think it’s probably a bot crafted by one of these characters. Restoring Russia to an Orthodox Christian polity does not seem to one of their aims.

    Given the mechanism of psychological projection, it may be that all the “bot” “Russian subversion” “Putin is a poisoner” stuff with which these folks inundate us is simply self-revelation into their own actions, aims, and intentions.

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  134. @Judah Benjamin Hur
    I never heard of Jamelle Bouie before, but it looks like there's a huge market on the left for non-scary black guys. I'm guessing that's what has made Genius T. Coates so popular (and affluent). Perhaps the idea is that it's a cheap way for the elites to keep the peace.

    The other strategy is to pay off people like Sharpton to moderate their views.

    I'd prefer a more honest and meritocratic approach, but I can see the logic of it.

    The decline from Garvey to Bouie is remarkable.

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  135. @TelfoedJohn
    What's better - White Nationalism or Christian Nationalism?

    I define Whites as ethnic Europeans - with perhaps a few edge cases like Lebanese Christians.

    The problem with White Nationalism is the who-is-white issue. Christian Nationalism would perhaps be more international. There are plenty of African and Korean Christians for instance. Now, you might not like fufu or bibimbap, but at least Christians, whatever their origin, have a moral base which you could live with. A minimum viable morality.

    The other thing with Christianity is that there are many people who do not practise it - or believe it (I don't) - but are culturally Christian. They have it in their upbringing and ancestors.

    What we need is a political Christian Nationalism - a kind of Christian Zionism. Which allows cultural Christians (even atheists) and converts to Christianity to live as they wish. Remember that Theodor Herzl was an atheist.

    “Remember that Theodor Herzl was an atheist.”

    Good point, but the more essential thing about Herzl is that he was an ethno-nationalist (in Current Year lingo).

    And we already have Christian Zionism. It seems Jesus was a Jew (imagine that) and Israel is his prophet. John Hagee is a notable adept. The flip side is Christian Identity which says non-Jews are Jews and Jews are not Jewish, so non-Jews must inherit the earth because they are Jewish. Or something. No thanks to both.

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    And we already have Christian Zionism. It seems Jesus was a Jew (imagine that) and Israel is his prophet. [...] The flip side is Christian Identity which says non-Jews are Jews and Jews are not Jewish, so non-Jews must inherit the earth because they are Jewish. Or something. No thanks to both.
     
    Umm..yeah, if that was your take away when you read about that, you missed the point. Like completely.

    But hey, if you can imagine a sturdy, robust Western Civilization while we tear down our churches, because"muh, that's stupid and "Jewish"" and then go watch the next episode of the King of Thrones, more power to you. I admit my powers of imagination are more limited.

  136. @Anon
    OT: Rahm Emanuel has moved headlong into crazy-ass social engineering.

    http://theantimedia.org/chicago-high-school-military/

    I suspect having an annoying, drug-using, worthless son who's just passed through his teenage years, and who can't figure out what he wants to do with his life has made Rahm lose his temper (or wise up).

    Millenial Jews are really losing the drive their parents and grandparents had. I suspect its the massive amount of pot they smoke. Seriously, has any pundit noted this? Seems like something they would be obsessing over.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    That's a theme in the recent children's animated movie "Sing." Matthew McConaughey plays a mouse who is a theatrical impresario always trying to scrounge up money for a show from rich investors. His go-to guy is a 20-something Jewish llama who lives in his parents' poolhouse and appears to not do anything besides smoke dope, but his grandmother is a Barbra Streisand-type llama who lives in a palatial estate at the beach, so she eventually gets talked into putting up the money for the show.
    , @Steve Sailer
    "Millenial Jews are really losing the drive their parents and grandparents had. I suspect its the massive amount of pot they smoke."

    I noticed that among baby boomer Beverly Hills HS students around 1974. The debaters, whom we hung around with because the BHHS debate coach was married to our NDHS debate coach, were all ambitious Type A personalities, but the other Beverly Hills students you'd run into were stoners. And that was 43 years ago.
  137. @Anon
    I was just thinking this: 1914. Pig-headed European elites who think they're God drag their countries into a lot of dumb sh*t, and the US and Russia are forced to bail them out of their crap.

    1939. Pig-headed European elites who think they're God drag their countries into a lot of dumb sh*t, and the US and Russia are forced to bail them out of their crap.

    2017. Pig-headed European elites who think they're God drag their countries into a lot of dumb sh*t, and the US and Russia are forced to bail them out of their crap.

    History does repeat itself, doesn't it?

    This entire multicultural mess was created by the United States and either imposed on European vassals by force (eg Germany) or adopted by local elites as a strategy of gaining favor with American elites (eg Sweden). The reaction of Western Europe is the confusion that they’re dutifully following what they thought were the values of their American overlords but they’re not being rewarded with American approval as they imagined they would be (and of course they would be if Clinton had won).

    The panic and confusion in reaction to Trump by America’s puppet leaders like Merkel is very similar to the reaction to Yeltsin by the communist puppet leaders of the former Soviet bloc – they all were used to impressing the Russians with their devout recitals of Marxist-Leninist liturgy and then suddenly the Russians weren’t impressed at all. They all know that if Trump isn’t a fluke they’re as done for as the old communist parties.

    Europe would likely be a far better place if the United States had stayed out of the World Wars and the first one would have ended in either a complete German or a complete Russian victory, the way Napoleon’s defeat gave us a century of relative peace until the rise of unified Germany disturbed the configuration of states. The unstable Europe that the led to World War II was created by the victors of the first one, Woodrow Wilson being the primary culprit.

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  138. @BigRedEyeOfJupiter
    Millenial Jews are really losing the drive their parents and grandparents had. I suspect its the massive amount of pot they smoke. Seriously, has any pundit noted this? Seems like something they would be obsessing over.

    That’s a theme in the recent children’s animated movie “Sing.” Matthew McConaughey plays a mouse who is a theatrical impresario always trying to scrounge up money for a show from rich investors. His go-to guy is a 20-something Jewish llama who lives in his parents’ poolhouse and appears to not do anything besides smoke dope, but his grandmother is a Barbra Streisand-type llama who lives in a palatial estate at the beach, so she eventually gets talked into putting up the money for the show.

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  139. @Art Deco
    The Grahams, that WASP-Jewish clan, having sold the Post, are now freed of any pretense of presenting anything more than opinion/commentary, are running wild in Slate attacking the Irish-Italian-Scots-Irish interlopers who dare challenge them for political and social power, using any brown, yellow, or black group as a weapon against them.

    The Graham media properties are collected in a holding company run by Donald Graham's son-in-law, Timothy O'Shaughnessy.

    The other member of the 4th generation to have run family businesses is Katherine Weymouth. Katherine Weymouth's supply of Jewish great-grandparents totals precisely one (1), a man who attended Yale and inter-married. Her 1 WASP grandparent was born into an unremarkable family in the Dakotas which later migrated to South Florida and made good in real estate (you know, like Elizabeth and Fred Trump).

    Katharine Weymouth’s grandfather, Philip L. Graham*, blew his brains out in 1963, two days before the first anniversary of Marilyn Monroe’s death.

    After Graham’s untimely end, his wife Katharine – the mischling daughter of Eugene Meyer (the aforementioned Yale-educated Jew, who purchased the Post in 1933) – took over the reins of the Post empire. (This empire included, at one time, Newsweek and a number of television stations.)

    *Useless trivia: The Graham-owned ABC affiliate in Miami, Channel 10, has his initials in its call sign (WPLG).

    More useless trivia: Katharine Weymouth has an extremely masculine jaw – nay, an ultra-manly face. In many photographs, she looks like a dude in drag. (Google it if you don’t believe me.)

    Yet more useless trivia: Weymouth married her husband in 1998, the day after a gunman at the U.S. Capitol murdered two Capitol policemen – an event that, naturally, got heavy play in the Post. (They are now divorced.)

    The perp was such a nut – pure schizo – that the case never went to trial. Wikipedia sez: “In an interview with a court-appointed psychiatrist, he explained that he stormed the Capitol to prevent the United States from being annihilated by disease and legions of cannibals.”

    (This was well before the zombie craze, mind you.)

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    What's the relation between Katharine Weymouth of the Washington Post dynasty and Tina Weymouth of Talking Heads and Tom Tom Club?
    , @Art Deco
    More useless trivia: Katharine Weymouth has an extremely masculine jaw – nay, an ultra-manly face. In many photographs, she looks like a dude in drag. (Google it if you don’t believe me.)



    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2013/08/04/fashion/04WEYMOUTH_SPAN/04JPWeymouth1-master1050.jpg


    Whatever.
  140. @Tiny Duck
    Huh?

    Progressives are winning on pretty much every front. You need to venture outside your echo chamber once in awhile.

    Bouie is a well respected journalist. Only a weirdo would think his analysis unworthy.

    Most people here are lonely old white men so I wouldn't. Expect youse to get beer stand the ascendant new majority

    Expect youse to get beer stand the ascendant new majority

    Time to take your meds, my friend.

    Maybe you should submit another inane comment. If it’s sufficiently incoherent, then we might have to call you an ambulance.

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  141. @Dahlia
    Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today. I'm always embarrassed for the other journalists when they retweet him because it means they're all about to follow him down some really stupid path. It's like they impose a Stop Think upon themselves when Bouie begins to reeeeeee!

    I think he was one of the first, or the first, to go into histrionics about Trump's speech. And of course this has turned out embarrassing for all of them. They say to never interfere when your enemy is destroying themselves, but they forgot to tell us that the spectacle would be so painful to watch.

    “Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today.”

    I thought this title had been awarded to William Kristol.

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    • Replies: @Dahlia
    Haha!

    "Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today."

    I was serious. He literally makes my head hurt. He himself has little power, but he's been promoted and backed by powerful institutional and cultural forces. So, for example, when Razib lost his gig at the New York Times, it was done with utmost blithering idiocy as Bouie led the campaign against him while his fellow travelers amplified and respectfully acquiesced to his leadership.
  142. @TelfoedJohn
    I see what you mean, but at least they are not going to shout Allahu Akbar in a crowd.

    So your best recommendation for the immivaders is, “Well, at least they’re not jihadis!”?

    A tranny hooker on a street corner has a bad, highly-visible case of herpes. One of her potential clients points this out to her.

    “Well, at least I don’t have AIDS!” she retorts.

    The client thinks about it for a minute, then unlocks the passenger-side door.

    “Hop in. And don’t forget that, if the cops stop us, I’m only giving you a ride because your car broke down.”

    “Whatever you say, Eddie.”

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  143. Dahlia says:
    @oddsbodkins
    "Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today."

    I thought this title had been awarded to William Kristol.

    Haha!

    “Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today.”

    I was serious. He literally makes my head hurt. He himself has little power, but he’s been promoted and backed by powerful institutional and cultural forces. So, for example, when Razib lost his gig at the New York Times, it was done with utmost blithering idiocy as Bouie led the campaign against him while his fellow travelers amplified and respectfully acquiesced to his leadership.

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    • Replies: @Ed
    I've been blocked, unblocked and blocked again by Bouie, the last time for a tweet I sent to someone else. He used to sarcastically call me his favorite person on Twitter for being black and very conservative. Since Twitter's change of blocking policy, I don't see his tweets and often forget that he exists. I no longer go to Slate or his page. This Sailer post was the first I've seen from him in months. It's interesting how Trump's election and the respondent hysteria from the press has turned me off to reading or watching many of them. Used to watch Morning Joe religiously, now I just watch Bloomberg for a few and off I go to work.

    What you say is very true, liberal and GOPe writers follow Bouie's lead religiously. I was unblocked at the the time of Razib, so after I saw him denounce NYT as being racist for hiring him. I knew Razib would be gone by the end of the day.

    Bouie strikes me as a smart black guy that "notices" but can't admit that he "notices". That's how I think he knew about Razib and he definitely reads Sailer.

    He's admitted once that he could never publicly bash black people even if warranted. For example, he was picked on by other black kids for being nerdy but will go out of his way to say it's not black people's fault.

  144. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @Eagle Eye
    The Saker provides a highly intelligent perspective from an openly and honestly Russia-centric perspective. This does mean that he detests the Marches (aka the Ukraine) and takes a Russia-centric view of other neighboring polities such as Poland and three Baltic Dwarfs.

    One may of course disagree with The Saker on numerous points and indeed on his general worldview.

    What is undeniable is that the Saker provides a calm port of call amidst the gales of coordinated MSM lies and distortions aimed at triggering a hot war with Russia. In this, he is almost alone even in the Alternative Media landscape, and WHOLLY without equal among America's Presstitute Class.

    The most amazing point is that anyone who actually LISTENED to Hillary Clinton's campaign rhetoric would have noticed blatant dog whistles in support of the braying for blood and gold by the Military-Industrial-Media Complex. As Yogi Berra almost said, you can hear a lot by listening.

    For all his faults and compromises, President Trump is at most a 33% champion of the War Party where Hillary and her entourage (particularly the rabid, unmoored women) were 150% pro-war, pro-murder of working class whites, and of course pro-war profiteering and kickbacks for themselves and their well-connected friends with pizza and Blue Beard proclivities.

    I am certainly not in favor of war with Russia. But unlike some people I am not so grandiose as to believe my opinions can influence the US government.

    I don’t read the media or watch TV news ever. I stopped believing the media a year or so after I finished college many years ago. My general rule about the MSM is to believe the opposite of what they write is the truth. During the Serbia Bosnia war I still read the Sunday paper. The papers and magazines were full of Serbia evil monsters Bosnia angelic victims. I didn’t pay much attention but I knew that since the MSM was against Serbia the Serbs must be the good guys.

    I was right, the MSM was wrong.

    But I’m tired of saker’s anti Poland rants inserted into every article even if the article is about Syria and Israel

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    On the hatred of Poland

    I judged the Poles by their enemies. And I found it was an almost unfailing truth that their enemies were the enemies of magnanimity and manhood. If a man loved slavery, if he loved usury, if he loved terrorism and all the trampled mire of materialistic politics, I have always found that he added to these affections the passion of a hatred of Poland. She could be judged in the light of that hatred; and the judgment has proved to be right. G. K. Chesterton
    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/G._K._Chesterton#cite_note-2
     
    , @Dahlia
    "But I’m tired of saker’s anti Poland rants inserted into every article even if the article is about Syria and Israel"

    Yeah, I like my propaganda more subtle. The hammer over the head thing is rather insulting: we're not worthy of a more strenuous effort? So, I haven't read Saker in awhile. Didn't know he was anti-Poland; doesn't surprise me at all.
  145. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @Anonymous
    Ironically, a large portion of the 1900 - 1970 Detroit population was ethnically Polish in origin.

    And it was a wonderful city then. But blacks regress to black and all those well paid middle class black auto workers turned the town into a poverty stricken hell hole of an African city.

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  146. @Anonymous
    Ironically, a large portion of the 1900 - 1970 Detroit population was ethnically Polish in origin.

    Furthering the irony, Hamtramck, Detroit’s most famous Polish enclave, has fallen to the Muslim demographic sword.

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  147. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @Clyde

    At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit.
     
    Makes for a schizophrenic Obama situation because he (hi IQ* idiot) took/takes himself so seriously as a college boy. Many of today's SJWs model themselves after this inner conflicted community organizer who failed at all his organizing efforts. It didn't have to be this way for Obama, but it's the life that he chose due to his pervy uncle Frank Marshall Davis mentoring. Who Obama's grandfather recruited to be an authentic (yeah, right!) black mentor for Obama.

    *according to Steve
    _______
    Obama’s Red Mentor Was a Pervert - Accuracy in Media
    www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-red-mentor-was-a-pervert
    Obama’s Red Mentor Was a Pervert ... picked Davis because Obama’s black father had abandoned the family and ... Some accounts say that Obama returned to Hawaii in ...

    Obama's white half enslaved his black half and should pay out reparations. I suppose.

    I am positive Frank Marshall Davis was more than a mentor. I’m positive he was obama’s father. Commies grandpa Dunham and Davis were lifelong buddies.

    Mr. google has lots of information if you are interested. As he gets older, Obama looks more and more like Davis and less and less like the Kenyan.

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    I am positive Frank Marshall Davis was more than a mentor. I’m positive he was obama’s father. Commies grandpa Dunham and Davis were lifelong buddies.

    They were nothing of the kind. They met sometime between 1960 and 1971. They were twelve years apart in age so unlikely to have been 'lifelong buddies' even if they'd lived next door to each other. As it happens, they were both native to the same section of Kansas, but lived more than 60 miles apart in 1920, more than 60 miles apart in 1925, and more than 100 miles apart in 1930. By 1935, Davis had decamped to Chicago, a city in which Stanley Dunham never lived.

    There is no indication outside the Wacky World of Websites that Stanley Armour Dunham, furniture and insurance salesman, was ever a member of the Communist Party or had any intellectual interests.

    Barack Obama was conceived in November 1960. The Dunhams moved to Hawaii in June 1960. You're going to tell me that a 55 year old man running a paper distributorship and resident 15 miles away from the Dunhams is a more plausible candidate for sire than a 24 year old foreign student at the University of Hawaii enrolled in one of Ann Dunham's classes.
  148. utu says:
    @ANON
    I am certainly not in favor of war with Russia. But unlike some people I am not so grandiose as to believe my opinions can influence the US government.

    I don't read the media or watch TV news ever. I stopped believing the media a year or so after I finished college many years ago. My general rule about the MSM is to believe the opposite of what they write is the truth. During the Serbia Bosnia war I still read the Sunday paper. The papers and magazines were full of Serbia evil monsters Bosnia angelic victims. I didn't pay much attention but I knew that since the MSM was against Serbia the Serbs must be the good guys.

    I was right, the MSM was wrong.

    But I'm tired of saker's anti Poland rants inserted into every article even if the article is about Syria and Israel

    On the hatred of Poland

    I judged the Poles by their enemies. And I found it was an almost unfailing truth that their enemies were the enemies of magnanimity and manhood. If a man loved slavery, if he loved usury, if he loved terrorism and all the trampled mire of materialistic politics, I have always found that he added to these affections the passion of a hatred of Poland. She could be judged in the light of that hatred; and the judgment has proved to be right. G. K. Chesterton

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/G._K._Chesterton#cite_note-2

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  149. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @Tiny Duck
    Anyone who has been to Europe recently could tell you that European civilization is in no danger of being erased, by Muslim immigrants or anyone else. Changed and improved but not erased. The idea that it is is a canard beloved of the Steve Bannons and Marine LePens of the world, but it's not rooted in any kind of fact.

    Trumps ameikkka will have to be crushed and humiliated like hitlers Germany .

    Crushed and humiliated by whom? Canada, Mexico? Any other invader would have to cross the Atlantic or Pacific. Even Japan only got as far as Hawaii and only stayed a few hours.

    Lotsa luck.

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    Non racists (which include America proper) will defeat Amerikkka
  150. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @El Dato
    OT: The Battle of Hamburg!

    Hamburg looks slapped around a bit:

    https://www.rt.com/news/395735-hamburg-protests-g20-aftermath/

    Nobody has suggested yet that Puting injected provocateurs into the wrecker teams, but that's probably just a matter of time.

    I Hope he did. I’d love to see the liberal mob shut the whole town down and totally humiliate Merkel.

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  151. Miro23 says:
    @Stealth
    I think envy on the part of those "centrist" elites is part of the problem. They sold out in every way you can think of (cucked, I guess), and now they're being put to shame by Eastern Europeans who are actually doing their own thing.

    Our system seems to be set up so that only desperate status-seeking conformists will ever get the chance to become part of the managerial class. These are people who have likely never stood up for themselves in any situation where doing so might result in some kind of loss. It paid off handsomely for them, but they have no dignity whatsoever. I'm sure they resent anyone who took a different approach to life.

    These are people who have likely never stood up for themselves in any situation where doing so might result in some kind of loss. It paid off handsomely for them, but they have no dignity whatsoever.

    Is this the US Congress?

    I can’t see any difference from the sycophantic Russian “parliaments ” of the Soviet era, or Saddam Hussein’s rubber stamp National Assembly.

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    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Is this the US Congress? I can’t see any difference from the sycophantic Russian “parliaments ” of the Soviet era, or Saddam Hussein’s rubber stamp National Assembly.

    Well, you're working hard at not seeing.

  152. Miro23 says:
    @AM

    The choice for the West is to either ally with the ancestral peoples of the Western lands or with deracinated globalist empire.
     
    The genius of the West is that it appears we've figured to bridge the gap between ethnicities. You don't have to be white to be an ally. But it requires a level of discipline, a common framework, and intolerance of certain behaviors, all of which appear to be waivering or disappearing.

    The genius of the West is that it appears we’ve figured to bridge the gap between ethnicities. You don’t have to be white to be an ally. But it requires a level of discipline, a common framework, and intolerance of certain behaviors, all of which appear to be wavering or disappearing.

    That’s a good point and there seems to be a big confusion about it at Unz.

    In my opinion demographically smallish ethnic minorities do not have to be a problem for Europe or the US – and can in fact be an advantage if integrated carefully (e.g. US and Europe up to the 1950′s).

    As you say, it’s all a question of attitude. It requires integrationist effort, acceptance of a common framework etc., in fact everything that liberal SJW’s seek to prevent.

    In this light, SJW’s are knowingly using multiculturalism to destroy the foundations of society and create a fake “New World of Happiness” Utopia run by themselves . Marcuse was hard at work on this in the 1960′s – 70′s with his popular calls for student activists to overthrow every kind of societal discipline or restraint.

    The conclusion is probably that this was the beginning of the end of racial integration, with the US set on its course towards Brazilianization with discord, race politics and gated communities.

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  153. Hhsiii says:
    @Joe Stalin
    Not once in my entire life, Baby Boomer, have I ever heard one American Black ever utter one word to thank a single white soldier for their sacrifice in the Civil War. Blacks will never be grateful because their entire political persona is predicated upon their relationship with whites in the US: Make whitey feel guilty in order to give them free stuff.

    As Derb states:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFY2kJ96jNY

    I'm black y'all, and I'm black y'all
    And I'm blackety black and I'm black y'all
    And I'm black y'all, and I'm black y'all
    And I'm blackety black and I'm black y'all
    I'm piggety black black
    And black black and blackety black yo
    Because Im black and I'm back
    Yo I'm black and then black y'all and I'm blackety black and
    I'm black y'all and I'm black y'all and I'm black y'all
    And I'm blackety black and I'm black y'all and
    I'm piggety black black black blackety black black black black black black black y'all
    And I'm black y'all, and I'm black y'all
    And I'm blackety black cause I'm black

    Ah, CB4.

    Well, there was Morgan Freeman’s character in Glory. Them white boys is dyin’. dyin’ for you, fool. I know because I dug their graves.

    The corollary of tearing down statues and proclaiming the south irredeemable, that the Civil War really was about slavery not state’s rights, would seem to be that northerners were really fighting for black freedom, not Union. But no one buys that. To leftist intellectuals and lost cause conservatives alike the Union soldiers were just Yankee banker cannon fodder. Just racist Irish hoodlums like in the NYC draft riots in gangs of New York. Might as well tear down the statue of Sherman by the Plaza Hotel too.

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  154. Ed says:
    @Dahlia
    Haha!

    "Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today."

    I was serious. He literally makes my head hurt. He himself has little power, but he's been promoted and backed by powerful institutional and cultural forces. So, for example, when Razib lost his gig at the New York Times, it was done with utmost blithering idiocy as Bouie led the campaign against him while his fellow travelers amplified and respectfully acquiesced to his leadership.

    I’ve been blocked, unblocked and blocked again by Bouie, the last time for a tweet I sent to someone else. He used to sarcastically call me his favorite person on Twitter for being black and very conservative. Since Twitter’s change of blocking policy, I don’t see his tweets and often forget that he exists. I no longer go to Slate or his page. This Sailer post was the first I’ve seen from him in months. It’s interesting how Trump’s election and the respondent hysteria from the press has turned me off to reading or watching many of them. Used to watch Morning Joe religiously, now I just watch Bloomberg for a few and off I go to work.

    What you say is very true, liberal and GOPe writers follow Bouie’s lead religiously. I was unblocked at the the time of Razib, so after I saw him denounce NYT as being racist for hiring him. I knew Razib would be gone by the end of the day.

    Bouie strikes me as a smart black guy that “notices” but can’t admit that he “notices”. That’s how I think he knew about Razib and he definitely reads Sailer.

    He’s admitted once that he could never publicly bash black people even if warranted. For example, he was picked on by other black kids for being nerdy but will go out of his way to say it’s not black people’s fault.

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    • Replies: @Dahlia
    What you say is very true, liberal and GOPe writers follow Bouie’s lead religiously. I was unblocked at the the time of Razib, so after I saw him denounce NYT as being racist for hiring him. I knew Razib would be gone by the end of the day.

    As I said in another reply, I find the whole culture, interplay, etc. amongst that group, fascinating. And I can't help but think of the late Lawrence Auster and he always saying that the exception will always give way, eventually, to the principle. That has been succeeding as Auster taught with this group and we've arrived at the Emperor's New Clothes dynamic being starkly in play. If what Judaica/Boudica says is true -that Bouie actually is smart- than that old fable has far more resonance than I ever imagined:
    Bouie, a nice black guy, gives the "smart" gatekeeping liberals what they want, which is increasingly getting stupid as reality bears down more and more. And they all pretendeth that he spake erudition. On his tongue was wisdom and discernment, the wisest elders proclaimed. So it was written.

  155. @BigRedEyeOfJupiter
    Millenial Jews are really losing the drive their parents and grandparents had. I suspect its the massive amount of pot they smoke. Seriously, has any pundit noted this? Seems like something they would be obsessing over.

    “Millenial Jews are really losing the drive their parents and grandparents had. I suspect its the massive amount of pot they smoke.”

    I noticed that among baby boomer Beverly Hills HS students around 1974. The debaters, whom we hung around with because the BHHS debate coach was married to our NDHS debate coach, were all ambitious Type A personalities, but the other Beverly Hills students you’d run into were stoners. And that was 43 years ago.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    Type A parents produce kids who are stressed-out and nervous. These kids turn to pot to calm their nerves, and the pot saps whatever initiative they have. The kids also use pot to attract a circle of friends, and they can become dependant on the distribution of drugs to have any social circle at all.
  156. @Stan Adams
    Katharine Weymouth's grandfather, Philip L. Graham*, blew his brains out in 1963, two days before the first anniversary of Marilyn Monroe's death.

    After Graham's untimely end, his wife Katharine - the mischling daughter of Eugene Meyer (the aforementioned Yale-educated Jew, who purchased the Post in 1933) - took over the reins of the Post empire. (This empire included, at one time, Newsweek and a number of television stations.)

    *Useless trivia: The Graham-owned ABC affiliate in Miami, Channel 10, has his initials in its call sign (WPLG).

    More useless trivia: Katharine Weymouth has an extremely masculine jaw - nay, an ultra-manly face. In many photographs, she looks like a dude in drag. (Google it if you don't believe me.)

    Yet more useless trivia: Weymouth married her husband in 1998, the day after a gunman at the U.S. Capitol murdered two Capitol policemen - an event that, naturally, got heavy play in the Post. (They are now divorced.)

    The perp was such a nut - pure schizo - that the case never went to trial. Wikipedia sez: "In an interview with a court-appointed psychiatrist, he explained that he stormed the Capitol to prevent the United States from being annihilated by disease and legions of cannibals."

    (This was well before the zombie craze, mind you.)

    What’s the relation between Katharine Weymouth of the Washington Post dynasty and Tina Weymouth of Talking Heads and Tom Tom Club?

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    My roommate was in love with Tina Weymouth and pounded on her monitor until she screamed at him to stop before he broke it. c. 1978 at the Texas World Opry Center in Houston.
    , @Art Deco
    Tina Weymouth is her aunt.
    , @anon
    Tina Weymouth is Kathy's aunt.
  157. @Steve Sailer
    What's the relation between Katharine Weymouth of the Washington Post dynasty and Tina Weymouth of Talking Heads and Tom Tom Club?

    My roommate was in love with Tina Weymouth and pounded on her monitor until she screamed at him to stop before he broke it. c. 1978 at the Texas World Opry Center in Houston.

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    • Replies: @whoever
    I've heard that part of the female anatomy called many things, but never a monitor.
  158. Svigor says:

    Jews ended up profiting most from that, but Jews did not initiate it: WASP Elites did. WASP Elites have always acted to help Jews while also putting the foot on the throats of the vast majority of white Gentiles they rule. And as soon as WASP Elites got used to blacks, they made them their #1 tool (Jews are the WASP’s #1 ally) with which to batter the ‘white trash.’

    I’m an Anglo-Saxon. Are there any Jewish WNs like me? No. Are there many Anglo-Saxon WNs like me? Yes.

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    I’m an Anglo-Saxon. Are there any Jewish WNs like me? No. Are there many Anglo-Saxon WNs like me? Yes.
     
    Yep . Most WASP elites were not exactly welcoming to Jews in general until Western decline accelerated rapidly in the 1960's. There were caps on their attendance, for instance, at WASP elite schools and it now appears with very good reason.

    Yes, anti-Semitic but they weren't alone. If you setup a WASP school, yes, you want your own WASP kids to attend. Blacks setup their own schools (some ending up with very good reputations) as did Catholics (same). In the case of Jews, it appears their work ethic and bookish orientation created sort of a virtual take over of the culture of elite schools with time. Those old crank male WASPs seem to have had..gasp a legitimate concern.

    That said, I do think the WASP elite have collapsed. Secular children of Christians and Jews will have some pretty similar attitudes towards the masses and their role towards them in this environment, which is perhaps why the line has blurred for the moment.

  159. Svigor says:

    I thought this title had been awarded to William Kristol.

    Wait I thought J-Pod had that title. Read his tweets before you decide, I implore you.

    Steve, can we get a ruling?

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  160. Tiny Duck says:
    @ANON
    Crushed and humiliated by whom? Canada, Mexico? Any other invader would have to cross the Atlantic or Pacific. Even Japan only got as far as Hawaii and only stayed a few hours.

    Lotsa luck.

    Non racists (which include America proper) will defeat Amerikkka

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  161. Art Deco says:
    @Steve Sailer
    What's the relation between Katharine Weymouth of the Washington Post dynasty and Tina Weymouth of Talking Heads and Tom Tom Club?

    Tina Weymouth is her aunt.

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  162. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @AM

    What we need is a political Christian Nationalism – a kind of Christian Zionism. Which allows cultural Christians (even atheists) and converts to Christianity to live as they wish.
     
    We have that right now. It's called the Democratic party. All the warm fuzzies of Christianity, all the "No Rules, Just Right" of atheism. Social Justice! Abortions! Give to poor people! Free birth control for everyone!

    The "magic" doesn't work unless people actually try to believe and work at what Christianity teaches. Most Christians are quite happy to share cultural Christianity anyway.

    80 percent of planned parenthood abortions are black women. Nationwide the ratio of black to White abortions is 4 to 1. Hispanics have the highest rate of abortions of all the races.

    Praise the lord, thank you Jesus for abortion. We’re it not for abortion there would have been millions more blacks and Hispanics born since 1970. Think how high the crime rates would be if not for abortion. Think about affirmative action, violent schools, screeching N words spending the day on the bus benches in front of 7-11s.

    As far as the declining percentage of Whites goes, the solution is not Whites having more children but other races having fewer children. The reason non Whites are such a huge percentage isn’t natural increase, its our government allowing cannibal capitalism to hire and import non Whites so as to gradually eliminate American Whites.

    Free birth control? The best thing for Whites would be free compulsory birth control for non Whites. Of course cannibal capitalism would still import non Whites to replace us.

    If anti abortion is the rallying cry of White conservatives we are lost. The anti abortion crew would better serve Whites by fighting affirmative action, and immigration legal and illegal

    Conservative complain about the taxes Whites pay to support blacks in prison and on life long welfare. For every black and Hispanic baby aborted that’s one less useless eater who will be supported by Whites all his or her life.

    Those anti abortion preachers and activists are traitors to the White race.

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    80 percent of planned parenthood abortions are black women. Nationwide the ratio of black to White abortions is 4 to 1. Hispanics have the highest rate of abortions of all the races.

    Actually: white Anglo, 38%; black, 37%; hispanic, 19%; other, 6%

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/cdc-black-and-hispanic-babies-aborted-2012-224839-or-554-abortions



    Those anti abortion preachers and activists are traitors to the White race.

    I'm sure they'll find your animadversions just mortifying.
  163. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @German_reader

    Some Poles collaborated with the Nazis during WW2. Therefore, Poland is forever tainted.
     
    It's really weird how Western "progressives" seem to believe there was some massive Polish collaboration with the Nazis for which today's Poles have to atone...just bizarre.

    That’s Jewish propaganda. For decades Jews have claimed that the Germans established Ausshwitz in Poland was because the Poles wanted it. They also claim that Poles slaughtered Jews.

    Consensus among the Jews I know is that the mere fact that Trump visited Poland, the “most anti Semitic ” nation on earth is proof that Trump is anti Semitic and will “betray” Israel

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  164. Art Deco says:
    @ANON
    I am positive Frank Marshall Davis was more than a mentor. I'm positive he was obama's father. Commies grandpa Dunham and Davis were lifelong buddies.

    Mr. google has lots of information if you are interested. As he gets older, Obama looks more and more like Davis and less and less like the Kenyan.

    I am positive Frank Marshall Davis was more than a mentor. I’m positive he was obama’s father. Commies grandpa Dunham and Davis were lifelong buddies.

    They were nothing of the kind. They met sometime between 1960 and 1971. They were twelve years apart in age so unlikely to have been ‘lifelong buddies’ even if they’d lived next door to each other. As it happens, they were both native to the same section of Kansas, but lived more than 60 miles apart in 1920, more than 60 miles apart in 1925, and more than 100 miles apart in 1930. By 1935, Davis had decamped to Chicago, a city in which Stanley Dunham never lived.

    There is no indication outside the Wacky World of Websites that Stanley Armour Dunham, furniture and insurance salesman, was ever a member of the Communist Party or had any intellectual interests.

    Barack Obama was conceived in November 1960. The Dunhams moved to Hawaii in June 1960. You’re going to tell me that a 55 year old man running a paper distributorship and resident 15 miles away from the Dunhams is a more plausible candidate for sire than a 24 year old foreign student at the University of Hawaii enrolled in one of Ann Dunham’s classes.

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    Davis was a communist. Grandpa and grandma Dunham were communists. Stanley Anne was raised communist. Ask Mr. google about pictures of Davis, Obama and the Kenyan. Look at the pictures.

    Then decide on your own. If you don't believe what I wrote, I certainly don't care. You're not my boss or high school teacher. Go start a fight with someone else.

    I believe it, you don't. How can you possibly think I'm influenced by you?
    , @Clyde
    There is a revealing poem that Obama wrote years ago that alludes to late hours spent w Frank Marshall Davis. https://stop-obama-now.net/barack-obamas-poem-to-his-pop/

    Authentic and down for the struggle black man (few blacks of any kind on Hawaii back then, 1960s) Frank Marshall Davis was picked by "Gramps" to mentor Obama and (my guess) molested him in a light way or worse. The man who led the choom gang of teens was gay and seven years older than 0bama and his buddies. More mentoring from the wrong type. I see a pattern here.

    , @Hippopotamusdrome


    There is no indication outside the Wacky World of Websites that Stanley Armour Dunham, furniture and insurance salesman, was ever a member of the Communist Party

     

    It looks like you are going to focus on the technicality of being an official member of the Communist Party USA, which in the 1950s had only 5,000 members. One can be a Communist without voting for the Communist Party USA. None the less, Dunham sent his daughter to a school whose chairman was in fact one of the 5,000 Communist Party members.

    Here's an article about Stanley Armour Dunham on a Wacky World Website, Wikipedia:


    Stanley Armour Dunham
    ... In 1956 they moved to the Shorewood Apartments on Mercer Island, a Seattle suburb. Ann attended high school there

     

    More information on Mercer Island High School from another Wacky World Website, Time Magazine:


    INVESTIGATIONS: Out of a Man's Past
    Monday, Apr. 11, 1955
    Seattle newspapers ran headlines when gentlemanly John Stenhouse, chairman of the suburban Mercer Island school board, last month told a congressional hearing that had summoned him as a witness: "I was a member of the Communist Party."

     

    Another Wacky World Website, Seattle Times:


    Obama’s mother known here as “uncommon”
    ... One respite was found in a wing of Mercer Island High called “anarchy alley.” Jim Wichterman taught a wide-open philosophy course that included Karl Marx. Next door, Val Foubert taught a rigorous dose of literature, including Margaret Mead’s writings on homosexuality.

    Those classes prompted what Wichterman, now 80 and retired in Ellensburg, called “mothers’ marches” of parents outraged at the curriculum.

     

    Was he a Communist? You decide.
  165. Art Deco says:
    @Thea
    An argument could made that the west should have allied with the Muslims against Israel after WWII. We'd still have problems, they just be different ones.

    Hindus are problematic in their own way. Muslims treat women far better than they do and Islamic toilet habits are better. The Hindus we get are mostly educated in a Western style system. Indians from the country side still like to kill or ostracize widows and poop right where their crops grow.

    An argument could made that the west should have allied with the Muslims against Israel after WWII. We’d still have problems, they just be different ones.

    “The Muslims” were not arrayed against Israel in 1948. Both Iran and Turkey maintained diplomatic relations with Israel until 1979. Five Arab states went to war with Israel in 1948 (in addition to the Husseini irregulars). There were three other sovereign Arab states around at that time who I think took similar diplomatic stances. It’s unlikely that Pres. Truman or anyone else anticipated that this conflict would drag on for 7 decades and encompass in some way dozens of other countries with no common border with Israel.

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    Right, no one had a crystal ball and it seemed the least bad of some bad options.

    But in hindsight, if the west told Israel in 1948, "we won't recognize or support you" the world would be quite different today.

    Not necessarily better, but I doubt Eurabia and multiple exploding jihadis would be happening.

  166. Art Deco says:
    @Stan Adams
    Katharine Weymouth's grandfather, Philip L. Graham*, blew his brains out in 1963, two days before the first anniversary of Marilyn Monroe's death.

    After Graham's untimely end, his wife Katharine - the mischling daughter of Eugene Meyer (the aforementioned Yale-educated Jew, who purchased the Post in 1933) - took over the reins of the Post empire. (This empire included, at one time, Newsweek and a number of television stations.)

    *Useless trivia: The Graham-owned ABC affiliate in Miami, Channel 10, has his initials in its call sign (WPLG).

    More useless trivia: Katharine Weymouth has an extremely masculine jaw - nay, an ultra-manly face. In many photographs, she looks like a dude in drag. (Google it if you don't believe me.)

    Yet more useless trivia: Weymouth married her husband in 1998, the day after a gunman at the U.S. Capitol murdered two Capitol policemen - an event that, naturally, got heavy play in the Post. (They are now divorced.)

    The perp was such a nut - pure schizo - that the case never went to trial. Wikipedia sez: "In an interview with a court-appointed psychiatrist, he explained that he stormed the Capitol to prevent the United States from being annihilated by disease and legions of cannibals."

    (This was well before the zombie craze, mind you.)

    More useless trivia: Katharine Weymouth has an extremely masculine jaw – nay, an ultra-manly face. In many photographs, she looks like a dude in drag. (Google it if you don’t believe me.)

    Whatever.

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    Good grief. What's with her eyes? Is that a thyroid thing?
    , @Stan Adams
    Democracy isn't the only thing that dies in darkness:
    http://media.nbcwashington.com/images/1200*675/Katharine+Weymouth1.jpg

    If I were her, I'd sue the guy who took the photograph on the left:
    https://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/postsplit.jpg
  167. Art Deco says:
    @Miro23

    These are people who have likely never stood up for themselves in any situation where doing so might result in some kind of loss. It paid off handsomely for them, but they have no dignity whatsoever.
     
    Is this the US Congress?

    I can't see any difference from the sycophantic Russian "parliaments " of the Soviet era, or Saddam Hussein's rubber stamp National Assembly.

    Is this the US Congress? I can’t see any difference from the sycophantic Russian “parliaments ” of the Soviet era, or Saddam Hussein’s rubber stamp National Assembly.

    Well, you’re working hard at not seeing.

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  168. Thea says:
    @Art Deco
    An argument could made that the west should have allied with the Muslims against Israel after WWII. We’d still have problems, they just be different ones.

    "The Muslims" were not arrayed against Israel in 1948. Both Iran and Turkey maintained diplomatic relations with Israel until 1979. Five Arab states went to war with Israel in 1948 (in addition to the Husseini irregulars). There were three other sovereign Arab states around at that time who I think took similar diplomatic stances. It's unlikely that Pres. Truman or anyone else anticipated that this conflict would drag on for 7 decades and encompass in some way dozens of other countries with no common border with Israel.

    Right, no one had a crystal ball and it seemed the least bad of some bad options.

    But in hindsight, if the west told Israel in 1948, “we won’t recognize or support you” the world would be quite different today.

    Not necessarily better, but I doubt Eurabia and multiple exploding jihadis would be happening.

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    Not necessarily better, but I doubt Eurabia and multiple exploding jihadis would be happening.

    Why do you 'doubt' that? Algeria, Afghanistan, Libya, the Sudan, Iran, and swatches of northern Nigeria have all had to contend with jihadi violence. Not one has a border with Israel.
  169. fnn says:
    @beenb2
    To paraphrase, you'd think given everything Jews have been through since, say, 1795, we'd allow an exception for a certain country...

    Yet that doesn't seem to be a winning argument here, though Israel is already over 20% non-Jewish.

    It’s always been about 20% non-Jewish-following the mass expulsions of the Arabs in 1948 . That hasn’t stopped it from being an apartheid Jewish ethno-state.

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  170. AM says:
    @The True and Original David
    "Remember that Theodor Herzl was an atheist."

    Good point, but the more essential thing about Herzl is that he was an ethno-nationalist (in Current Year lingo).

    And we already have Christian Zionism. It seems Jesus was a Jew (imagine that) and Israel is his prophet. John Hagee is a notable adept. The flip side is Christian Identity which says non-Jews are Jews and Jews are not Jewish, so non-Jews must inherit the earth because they are Jewish. Or something. No thanks to both.

    And we already have Christian Zionism. It seems Jesus was a Jew (imagine that) and Israel is his prophet. [...] The flip side is Christian Identity which says non-Jews are Jews and Jews are not Jewish, so non-Jews must inherit the earth because they are Jewish. Or something. No thanks to both.

    Umm..yeah, if that was your take away when you read about that, you missed the point. Like completely.

    But hey, if you can imagine a sturdy, robust Western Civilization while we tear down our churches, because”muh, that’s stupid and “Jewish”” and then go watch the next episode of the King of Thrones, more power to you. I admit my powers of imagination are more limited.

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    Sorry, that should have been "Game of Thrones". Missed it by that much. grin
  171. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Steve Sailer
    What's the relation between Katharine Weymouth of the Washington Post dynasty and Tina Weymouth of Talking Heads and Tom Tom Club?

    Tina Weymouth is Kathy’s aunt.

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  172. AM says:
    @AM

    And we already have Christian Zionism. It seems Jesus was a Jew (imagine that) and Israel is his prophet. [...] The flip side is Christian Identity which says non-Jews are Jews and Jews are not Jewish, so non-Jews must inherit the earth because they are Jewish. Or something. No thanks to both.
     
    Umm..yeah, if that was your take away when you read about that, you missed the point. Like completely.

    But hey, if you can imagine a sturdy, robust Western Civilization while we tear down our churches, because"muh, that's stupid and "Jewish"" and then go watch the next episode of the King of Thrones, more power to you. I admit my powers of imagination are more limited.

    Sorry, that should have been “Game of Thrones”. Missed it by that much. grin

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  173. Hhsiii says:
    @3g4me
    @15 hssiii: You make the classic error of conflating Western intellectual and cultural benefits as universal, to be "enjoy{ed} . . . and adapt{ed}" to various non-Western cultures. Those Western benefits are the product of Western people - specifically, White, Christian Western people. They are the product of a particular confluence of genetics, geography, and religion. When adapted by others, they are no longer particularly Western.

    That adaptation takes many forms - as an example, Chinese "Christians" here in America routinely paint their front doors red, hang Chinese good-luck charms from their rear-view mirrors, and follow the precepts of feng shui. And no, those are not the equivalent to ancient Western superstitions about black cats or Friday the 13th, which are noted more in ironic reflex than any genuine belief. Ask a Chinese Christian to live in a home antithetical to his "good luck" precepts and he will be profoundly and continually uncomfortable.

    Western Christianity is just that - distinctly Western. Again, a product of a particular people. It can be and has been adapted, and the fundamental values are supposed to be the same, but the cultural influences are profound {see Faith and Heritage's series on ethno-christology}.

    As you note, Japan is both racially distinct and yet part of the Western political alliance. But that in no way makes Japanese culture particularly "Western." Japan has adapted a Western garment forced upon it and made it distinctly its own - politically and culturally. The differences between the US and Japan are profound, but do not preclude our being political allies. And that alliance is disturbed by too close contact - witness every time a usually Negro member of our military occupying part of their territory rapes and murders local Japanese woman. Then the locals want all Americans - Negro or not - OUT. And why not? It's their country.

    American Negroes have, again as you note, been the beneficiaries of our Western values, particularly via the outlawing of slavery by White Christian Great Britain. Slavery did not originate with Whites, it was never limited to Whites, and it never ended with Whites. It existed throughout the ages and cultures and is still practiced today in parts of Asia and Africa. That some tiny fraction of Negroes have adapted well and thrived in what is, for them, an alien environment and culture, in no way negates that it is still alien to their natural and genetic norm. A Thomas Sowell and legal integration of the armed forces does not equal Detroit, Baltimore, or countless other cities and White lives destroyed. So no, Negroes are most definite excluded from Western tradition.

    Merely because something can be and was freely shared does not make it universal in any sense. Western civilization is the product of Western White people, the Greek-Roman heritage, and Christianity Each is necessary but individually insufficient. No other combination results in Western civilization, but something different. No necessarily all bad or unworkable to each different culture and society, but still not Western civilization.

    I understand the source of western civilization. But black Americans have been around a long time and been citizens for over 150 years now. I had black fellow students, teachers and principals 50 years ago, colleagues and bosses. I have more in common with most of those of my generation than a Frenchman. Or a Trojan warrior or Athenian philosopher. For better or worse

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  174. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @3g4me
    @15 hssiii: You make the classic error of conflating Western intellectual and cultural benefits as universal, to be "enjoy{ed} . . . and adapt{ed}" to various non-Western cultures. Those Western benefits are the product of Western people - specifically, White, Christian Western people. They are the product of a particular confluence of genetics, geography, and religion. When adapted by others, they are no longer particularly Western.

    That adaptation takes many forms - as an example, Chinese "Christians" here in America routinely paint their front doors red, hang Chinese good-luck charms from their rear-view mirrors, and follow the precepts of feng shui. And no, those are not the equivalent to ancient Western superstitions about black cats or Friday the 13th, which are noted more in ironic reflex than any genuine belief. Ask a Chinese Christian to live in a home antithetical to his "good luck" precepts and he will be profoundly and continually uncomfortable.

    Western Christianity is just that - distinctly Western. Again, a product of a particular people. It can be and has been adapted, and the fundamental values are supposed to be the same, but the cultural influences are profound {see Faith and Heritage's series on ethno-christology}.

    As you note, Japan is both racially distinct and yet part of the Western political alliance. But that in no way makes Japanese culture particularly "Western." Japan has adapted a Western garment forced upon it and made it distinctly its own - politically and culturally. The differences between the US and Japan are profound, but do not preclude our being political allies. And that alliance is disturbed by too close contact - witness every time a usually Negro member of our military occupying part of their territory rapes and murders local Japanese woman. Then the locals want all Americans - Negro or not - OUT. And why not? It's their country.

    American Negroes have, again as you note, been the beneficiaries of our Western values, particularly via the outlawing of slavery by White Christian Great Britain. Slavery did not originate with Whites, it was never limited to Whites, and it never ended with Whites. It existed throughout the ages and cultures and is still practiced today in parts of Asia and Africa. That some tiny fraction of Negroes have adapted well and thrived in what is, for them, an alien environment and culture, in no way negates that it is still alien to their natural and genetic norm. A Thomas Sowell and legal integration of the armed forces does not equal Detroit, Baltimore, or countless other cities and White lives destroyed. So no, Negroes are most definite excluded from Western tradition.

    Merely because something can be and was freely shared does not make it universal in any sense. Western civilization is the product of Western White people, the Greek-Roman heritage, and Christianity Each is necessary but individually insufficient. No other combination results in Western civilization, but something different. No necessarily all bad or unworkable to each different culture and society, but still not Western civilization.

    I like red doors but the Chinese practice of cutting down trees or, if the city prevents them, drowning the trees in pesticides so they die and the city will cut them down should be forbidden and rigorously prosecuted.

    But since they are not White it will never happen. They also cut down or poison trees on other people’s property. I know a woman who had 2 magnificent trees in her front yard. A Chinese neighbor was always whining and bitching about the trees. They went on vacation for a week. They came back and the trees were gone.

    Highly skilled legal immigrants entitled to affirmative action medical, engineering, computer accounting and other STEM jobs White Americans are denied because they are White.

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  175. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @Art Deco
    I am positive Frank Marshall Davis was more than a mentor. I’m positive he was obama’s father. Commies grandpa Dunham and Davis were lifelong buddies.

    They were nothing of the kind. They met sometime between 1960 and 1971. They were twelve years apart in age so unlikely to have been 'lifelong buddies' even if they'd lived next door to each other. As it happens, they were both native to the same section of Kansas, but lived more than 60 miles apart in 1920, more than 60 miles apart in 1925, and more than 100 miles apart in 1930. By 1935, Davis had decamped to Chicago, a city in which Stanley Dunham never lived.

    There is no indication outside the Wacky World of Websites that Stanley Armour Dunham, furniture and insurance salesman, was ever a member of the Communist Party or had any intellectual interests.

    Barack Obama was conceived in November 1960. The Dunhams moved to Hawaii in June 1960. You're going to tell me that a 55 year old man running a paper distributorship and resident 15 miles away from the Dunhams is a more plausible candidate for sire than a 24 year old foreign student at the University of Hawaii enrolled in one of Ann Dunham's classes.

    Davis was a communist. Grandpa and grandma Dunham were communists. Stanley Anne was raised communist. Ask Mr. google about pictures of Davis, Obama and the Kenyan. Look at the pictures.

    Then decide on your own. If you don’t believe what I wrote, I certainly don’t care. You’re not my boss or high school teacher. Go start a fight with someone else.

    I believe it, you don’t. How can you possibly think I’m influenced by you?

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    Davis was a communist. Grandpa and grandma Dunham were communists. Stanley Anne was raised communist.

    No. Frank Marshall Davis was a Communist Party member as late as 1947. The Communist Party lost the vast bulk of its membership over the succeeding 10 years, reduced at one point to a few thousand. Davis arrived in Hawaii as an official of Bridges Longshoreman. By 1955, he was employed as a salesman and living in a village on the north side of Oahu.

    The notion that Stanley Dunham, Madelyn Dunham, or their annoying daughter were Communist Party members has no reality outside the space between your ears.

  176. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @Harry Baldwin
    Joe Sobran was no supporter of immigration control. I subscribed to his newsletter but let my subscription lapse after he wrote that he couldn't picture Jesus standing at the border and forbidding entry to Mexicans.

    Sobran also wrote that when he saw American youth with their piercings and tattoos he couldn't imagine how a Hispanic inflow could be any worse. (Guess he didn't encounter any MS13 types with their face tattoos.)

    Sobran developed some concern about immigration after reading one of Pat Buchanan's books, but the fact that it had taken him so long to take notice of so fundamental an issue made me lose respect for him.

    Sobran was what I call a fuddy duddy conservative. Totally useless.

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  177. ANON says: • Disclaimer
    @Thea
    An argument could made that the west should have allied with the Muslims against Israel after WWII. We'd still have problems, they just be different ones.

    Hindus are problematic in their own way. Muslims treat women far better than they do and Islamic toilet habits are better. The Hindus we get are mostly educated in a Western style system. Indians from the country side still like to kill or ostracize widows and poop right where their crops grow.

    The Indian government had a big toilet campaign. The placed advanced outhouses in every village. The outhouses had very deep holes and hoppers full of lime to dissolve the solids.

    But no one would use them. The campaign was a failure. A lot of landlords absolutely will not rent to Indians because Indians don’t clean their homes. In India the educated middle classes don’t clean, they have very low paid servants. There are plenty of Hispanic cleaners in America but after they see an Indian home they quit.

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  178. Clyde says:
    @Art Deco
    I am positive Frank Marshall Davis was more than a mentor. I’m positive he was obama’s father. Commies grandpa Dunham and Davis were lifelong buddies.

    They were nothing of the kind. They met sometime between 1960 and 1971. They were twelve years apart in age so unlikely to have been 'lifelong buddies' even if they'd lived next door to each other. As it happens, they were both native to the same section of Kansas, but lived more than 60 miles apart in 1920, more than 60 miles apart in 1925, and more than 100 miles apart in 1930. By 1935, Davis had decamped to Chicago, a city in which Stanley Dunham never lived.

    There is no indication outside the Wacky World of Websites that Stanley Armour Dunham, furniture and insurance salesman, was ever a member of the Communist Party or had any intellectual interests.

    Barack Obama was conceived in November 1960. The Dunhams moved to Hawaii in June 1960. You're going to tell me that a 55 year old man running a paper distributorship and resident 15 miles away from the Dunhams is a more plausible candidate for sire than a 24 year old foreign student at the University of Hawaii enrolled in one of Ann Dunham's classes.

    There is a revealing poem that Obama wrote years ago that alludes to late hours spent w Frank Marshall Davis. https://stop-obama-now.net/barack-obamas-poem-to-his-pop/

    Authentic and down for the struggle black man (few blacks of any kind on Hawaii back then, 1960s) Frank Marshall Davis was picked by “Gramps” to mentor Obama and (my guess) molested him in a light way or worse. The man who led the choom gang of teens was gay and seven years older than 0bama and his buddies. More mentoring from the wrong type. I see a pattern here.

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    Authentic and down for the struggle black man (few blacks of any kind on Hawaii back then, 1960s) Frank Marshall Davis was picked by “Gramps” to mentor Obama and (my guess) molested him in a light way or worse. The man who led the choom gang of teens was gay and seven years older than 0bama and his buddies. More mentoring from the wrong type. I see a pattern here.


    This is a fantasy and the only thing you see is the inside of your rectum.
  179. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Thomas
    Bouie is even good enough to link to the Haaretz "Poland bad because they didn't like the Jews either" piece to explain why Poland has to abolish itself à la Germany.

    If anything is going to see Trump succeed, it might be the degree to which Trump Derangement among the left forces them to reflexively attack anything he stands for or speaks in favor of and defend anything that opposes Trump and the Deplorables. This week, it's been defending doxxing, jihad (Linda Sarsour), and attacking "the West." Even (or especially) the cuck National Review is eating up the Poland speech. Bouie shows how serious this derangement has gone, because the only way you read Trump's invocation of "the West" as categorically different from Reagan or Kennedy's similar speeches is by drinking Cult Marx Kool-Aid that only has much of a following on the far left.

    99% of Jewish leftism is based on ‘Still Wanting to Punish the White West for Nazi Germany,’ and nothing more than that. Everything else is an excuse. Jews really, really, don’t want blacks or Mexicans or radical Muslims in their own neighborhoods or schools. But they hate it when you point this out. Self-conscious hypocracy makes leftists very screechy.

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    99% of Jewish leftism is based on ‘Still Wanting to Punish the White West for Nazi Germany,’ and nothing more than that.

    That's absurd. The political preferences of American Jews have had a certain cast for at least a century.
  180. @Art Deco
    More useless trivia: Katharine Weymouth has an extremely masculine jaw – nay, an ultra-manly face. In many photographs, she looks like a dude in drag. (Google it if you don’t believe me.)



    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2013/08/04/fashion/04WEYMOUTH_SPAN/04JPWeymouth1-master1050.jpg


    Whatever.

    Good grief. What’s with her eyes? Is that a thyroid thing?

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  181. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Arclight
    Any half-conscious person understands that Europe and North America tower over every other civilization in terms of artistic, scientific, and cultural achievements. As penance for having lorded over other areas of the globe at various points in their histories, Europeans and Americans are supposed to hand over their cities and the benefits of their cultures to people who are basically history's losers.

    There are many things I do not like about Trump. However, the fact that he and/or members of his Administration recognize the need to preserve our society so that future generations can enjoy the same benefits that we did instead of turning it into Blade Runner makes me grateful Clinton was not elected. However, I hope he manages to become the great persuader Scott Adams imagines when it comes to the issue of civilizational preservation - so far I think he's only preaching to the choir, and we truly need a sea change in how Americans view this issue.

    Trump doesn’t have to explain how great Western Civilization is to whites. They already know it. What he needs is to teach whites to stop listening to the left. For that he needs to goad leftists into doing and saying asinine things that will make 90% of all whites think the left is nuts, and he’s succeeding quite well. He hasn’t even been in office six months, and left is having a very public spittle-flecked nervous breakdown. After four years of this, the left is going to be in a very interesting state indeed. I predict the left will start taking extremely desperate measures, and many of their leaders will wind up in jail on terrorism and inciting a riot charges. Jail’s a very good place for them. Put them in alongside violent ghetto blacks and Mexican gang members, and we’ll see how long that moronic left-wing ideology lasts inside their heads.

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  182. whorefinder says: • Website
    @Art Deco
    The Grahams, that WASP-Jewish clan, having sold the Post, are now freed of any pretense of presenting anything more than opinion/commentary, are running wild in Slate attacking the Irish-Italian-Scots-Irish interlopers who dare challenge them for political and social power, using any brown, yellow, or black group as a weapon against them.

    The Graham media properties are collected in a holding company run by Donald Graham's son-in-law, Timothy O'Shaughnessy.

    The other member of the 4th generation to have run family businesses is Katherine Weymouth. Katherine Weymouth's supply of Jewish great-grandparents totals precisely one (1), a man who attended Yale and inter-married. Her 1 WASP grandparent was born into an unremarkable family in the Dakotas which later migrated to South Florida and made good in real estate (you know, like Elizabeth and Fred Trump).

    So, in other words, you agree the Grahams are WASP-Jewish, and have a shabbos goy as a front man as well as come shabbos goy mixers.

    Tell me again how light skinned blacks with white ancestors don’t identify with blacks more than whites? The same holds true for most part-Jewish folk these days: they tend to identify with their Jewish side rather than their European side.

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    So, in other words, you agree the Grahams are WASP-Jewish, and have a shabbos goy as a front man as well as come shabbos goy mixers.

    You fancy Timothy O'Shaughnessy is a 'shabbos-goy' to a man who died in 1957 who he's never met?

    Katherine Weymouth has 2 or 3 WASP great-grandparents and 1 Jewish great-grandparent. Her WASP great-grandparents were generic rank-and-file Americans, not New York - New England bluebloods.

    Ted Cruz has one great-grandparent who was old-stock American and two who were Italian, but people aren't going around calling Ted Cruz "WASP-Italian". Maybe because they don't have so many ethnic antagonism and crackpot anthropological theories floating around in their head that it defeats their capacity to do ordinary arithmetic.

  183. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @El Dato
    OT: The Battle of Hamburg!

    Hamburg looks slapped around a bit:

    https://www.rt.com/news/395735-hamburg-protests-g20-aftermath/

    Nobody has suggested yet that Puting injected provocateurs into the wrecker teams, but that's probably just a matter of time.

    I was reading that the German cops were anticipating attacks on the G20 attendees, not attacks on the town itself.

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  184. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Steve Sailer
    "Millenial Jews are really losing the drive their parents and grandparents had. I suspect its the massive amount of pot they smoke."

    I noticed that among baby boomer Beverly Hills HS students around 1974. The debaters, whom we hung around with because the BHHS debate coach was married to our NDHS debate coach, were all ambitious Type A personalities, but the other Beverly Hills students you'd run into were stoners. And that was 43 years ago.

    Type A parents produce kids who are stressed-out and nervous. These kids turn to pot to calm their nerves, and the pot saps whatever initiative they have. The kids also use pot to attract a circle of friends, and they can become dependant on the distribution of drugs to have any social circle at all.

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  185. whoever says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    My roommate was in love with Tina Weymouth and pounded on her monitor until she screamed at him to stop before he broke it. c. 1978 at the Texas World Opry Center in Houston.

    I’ve heard that part of the female anatomy called many things, but never a monitor.

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  186. fish says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Huh?

    Progressives are winning on pretty much every front. You need to venture outside your echo chamber once in awhile.

    Bouie is a well respected journalist. Only a weirdo would think his analysis unworthy.

    Most people here are lonely old white men so I wouldn't. Expect youse to get beer stand the ascendant new majority

    I like Jamelle Bouie….his horn rimmed glasses are darling.

    - Leonard Pitts

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  187. Slate: “The White Nationalist Roots of Trump’s Warsaw Speech”

    Well . . . Western Civilization was the creation of . . . White people . . . and their distinct nations . . .

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  188. Eagle Eye says:
    @Almost Missouri

    "you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit."
     
    Well, technically, Obama's ancestors weren't enslaved, if anything, they were the slavers. But yes, I agree with your larger point: that by going all-in with coalition of the parasitical fringes, he cut himself off from all of history's greatest achievements, so envy, resentment and hatred are the only reaction he can have.

    Well, technically, Obama’s ancestors weren’t enslaved, if anything, they were the slavers.

    This depends on whether Barry Dunham “Obama” regards himself as descended from British-Kenyan student Barack Obama, or from his grandfather’s African-American buddy, the communist writer and pornographer Marshall Davis.

    CIA surveillance documents on Obama Sr. “dumped” shortly after Barry’s first inauguration refer to his mother as “Miss Dunham.” This implies that her alleged marriage to Obama never happened. Most likely, the claim of marriage to Barack Obama Sr. was just a social white lie to prettify the fact of an illegitimate birth in the early 1960s. The biological paternity of Barry Dunham is, of course, a separate issue.

    Barry’s own later words and actions certainly evince a strong sense of “identification” with a 1970s/1980s romantic college view of the “Third World,” no doubt reinforced from an early age by his mother’s affiliation with the World Bank etc.

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    It's a fair point.

    Nevertheless, B. Husein Obama presents himself as the son of Kenyan Luo Obama Sr. in his book, which is where the original quote was from. Whether his presentation is really true or not isn't necessarily relevant to the rhetorical/aesthetic/civilizational corner that Obama painted himself into by defining himself as the (p)resident alien.
  189. @Beckow
    Maybe he is that good. Although a lot of these themes have been sitting around for a generation without anyone willing to pick them up seriously.

    But why

    "Caesar-like Shakespearean tragedy"
     
    Ceasar had nothing to do with Shakespeare who lived 1,600 years later and only wrote about the tragedy, as did many others. His tragedy was his own in his own time. Is this a subtle attempt to appropriate Ceasar for the Anglo culture? Maybe that's why Italians keep the back-door to Europe open for the migrants.

    Maybe he is that good. Although a lot of these themes have been sitting around for a generation without anyone willing to pick them up seriously.

    Someone (Coulter? Derb?) said that the immigration issue was like a hundred-dollar bill lying on the sidewalk that no one would stoop down to pick up until Trump did it.

    I’m not sure that Trump is the masterly player of “4-d chess” that some of his admirers allege, but it should be remembered that his success always was as a marketer. Marketing is not just selling – it mainly consists of identifying the market to which you aim to sell. In the issues on which he chose to campaign, Trump had identified the market for them, a market almost entirely unserved by all the other candidates. He knew where to find his voters, and campaigned in states such as Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, where the pundits thought he was wasting time – until he carried them.

    His victory was not an accident – he won by honest and intelligent effort. That’s what his detractors, with their intellectual pretensions and moral vanity, still have a hard time accepting, and hence they continue to grasp at straws like the alleged Russian hacking of the election, “voter suppression,” and other excuses.

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  190. @Dahlia
    Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today. I'm always embarrassed for the other journalists when they retweet him because it means they're all about to follow him down some really stupid path. It's like they impose a Stop Think upon themselves when Bouie begins to reeeeeee!

    I think he was one of the first, or the first, to go into histrionics about Trump's speech. And of course this has turned out embarrassing for all of them. They say to never interfere when your enemy is destroying themselves, but they forgot to tell us that the spectacle would be so painful to watch.

    Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today.

    Not at all. Bouie is a shameless, self-aware cynic, from my reading, playing the careerist game of click-bait journalism. He has a good grasp on the power of tribalism, especially that shown by his white leftist readers, to whose prejudices and blindspots he panders.

    When not writing about race, as he once did, he displayed a solid knowledge of history, sociology, and politics beyond the navel of black America (which other black journalists in his niche seldom demonstrate).

    In fact I’ve always imagined that at some point in his early career interacting with Teh-Genius Coates as a supposed mentor, Bouie had to realize what an ignorant and intellectually-limited man America’s Greatest Public Intellectual™ is.

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    When not writing about race, as he once did, he displayed a solid knowledge of history, sociology, and politics beyond the navel of black America (which other black journalists in his niche seldom demonstrate).

    That is interesting! I only have a passing familiarity with him, only borne of his stupid witch hunts and the smart set following him: I find the whole thing fascinating from a sociological point-of-view. He starts a hysterical, but really dumb, witch hunt, and his fellow travelers fall into line. Channeling the late Lawrence Auster, they would have to, wouldn't they? But what you're saying is is that he's a smart guy mostly being cynical -or simply craven- with his calling card of race.

    So, kind of sort of like the Emperor's New Clothes: Bouie spins a yarn and the great and good, per the demands of their principles, have to pretend that what he's saying isn't bone-crushingly stupid? Interesting.

  191. @Art Deco
    More useless trivia: Katharine Weymouth has an extremely masculine jaw – nay, an ultra-manly face. In many photographs, she looks like a dude in drag. (Google it if you don’t believe me.)



    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2013/08/04/fashion/04WEYMOUTH_SPAN/04JPWeymouth1-master1050.jpg


    Whatever.

    Democracy isn’t the only thing that dies in darkness:

    If I were her, I’d sue the guy who took the photograph on the left:

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  192. AM says:

    His victory was not an accident – he won by honest and intelligent effort.

    I’m fine with people disagreeing with Trump. Even an honest dislike of his strong personality, okay.

    At what point, however, does he get credit for above average smarts? So what if he likes wrestling he knows is fake (and Heaven forbid!) likes supermodels. He’s made money in real estate and not lost his shirt on golf courses. How many people can do that? Not me for sure.

    People calling him stupid at this stage of the game only call into question their relative level of intelligence.

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  193. @Eagle Eye

    Well, technically, Obama’s ancestors weren’t enslaved, if anything, they were the slavers.
     
    This depends on whether Barry Dunham "Obama" regards himself as descended from British-Kenyan student Barack Obama, or from his grandfather's African-American buddy, the communist writer and pornographer Marshall Davis.

    CIA surveillance documents on Obama Sr. "dumped" shortly after Barry's first inauguration refer to his mother as "Miss Dunham." This implies that her alleged marriage to Obama never happened. Most likely, the claim of marriage to Barack Obama Sr. was just a social white lie to prettify the fact of an illegitimate birth in the early 1960s. The biological paternity of Barry Dunham is, of course, a separate issue.

    Barry's own later words and actions certainly evince a strong sense of "identification" with a 1970s/1980s romantic college view of the "Third World," no doubt reinforced from an early age by his mother's affiliation with the World Bank etc.

    It’s a fair point.

    Nevertheless, B. Husein Obama presents himself as the son of Kenyan Luo Obama Sr. in his book, which is where the original quote was from. Whether his presentation is really true or not isn’t necessarily relevant to the rhetorical/aesthetic/civilizational corner that Obama painted himself into by defining himself as the (p)resident alien.

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    Nevertheless, B. Husein Obama presents himself as the son of Kenyan Luo Obama Sr. in his book, which is where the original quote was from. Whether his presentation is really true or not isn’t necessarily relevant to the rhetorical/aesthetic/civilizational corner that Obama painted himself into by defining himself as the (p)resident alien.
     
    What is even more astounding is that it is still possible to gain the sympathy of African-Americans by openly claiming to be descended from Luo slave traders.

    Of course, the entire issue of the East African slave trade to the Muslim world - much more extensive in time and scope, and much more brutal (emasculation upon capture, infanticide of children born to female slave) - has been pushed down the memory hole.

    All this shows what Democrats really think of the education system they have inflicted on blacks (and the entire country) since the 1950s.

  194. Art Deco says:
    @Thea
    Right, no one had a crystal ball and it seemed the least bad of some bad options.

    But in hindsight, if the west told Israel in 1948, "we won't recognize or support you" the world would be quite different today.

    Not necessarily better, but I doubt Eurabia and multiple exploding jihadis would be happening.

    Not necessarily better, but I doubt Eurabia and multiple exploding jihadis would be happening.

    Why do you ‘doubt’ that? Algeria, Afghanistan, Libya, the Sudan, Iran, and swatches of northern Nigeria have all had to contend with jihadi violence. Not one has a border with Israel.

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  195. Art Deco says:
    @Anon
    99% of Jewish leftism is based on 'Still Wanting to Punish the White West for Nazi Germany,' and nothing more than that. Everything else is an excuse. Jews really, really, don't want blacks or Mexicans or radical Muslims in their own neighborhoods or schools. But they hate it when you point this out. Self-conscious hypocracy makes leftists very screechy.

    99% of Jewish leftism is based on ‘Still Wanting to Punish the White West for Nazi Germany,’ and nothing more than that.

    That’s absurd. The political preferences of American Jews have had a certain cast for at least a century.

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  196. Art Deco says:
    @Clyde
    There is a revealing poem that Obama wrote years ago that alludes to late hours spent w Frank Marshall Davis. https://stop-obama-now.net/barack-obamas-poem-to-his-pop/

    Authentic and down for the struggle black man (few blacks of any kind on Hawaii back then, 1960s) Frank Marshall Davis was picked by "Gramps" to mentor Obama and (my guess) molested him in a light way or worse. The man who led the choom gang of teens was gay and seven years older than 0bama and his buddies. More mentoring from the wrong type. I see a pattern here.

    Authentic and down for the struggle black man (few blacks of any kind on Hawaii back then, 1960s) Frank Marshall Davis was picked by “Gramps” to mentor Obama and (my guess) molested him in a light way or worse. The man who led the choom gang of teens was gay and seven years older than 0bama and his buddies. More mentoring from the wrong type. I see a pattern here.

    This is a fantasy and the only thing you see is the inside of your rectum.

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  197. AM says:
    @Svigor

    Jews ended up profiting most from that, but Jews did not initiate it: WASP Elites did. WASP Elites have always acted to help Jews while also putting the foot on the throats of the vast majority of white Gentiles they rule. And as soon as WASP Elites got used to blacks, they made them their #1 tool (Jews are the WASP’s #1 ally) with which to batter the ‘white trash.’
     
    I'm an Anglo-Saxon. Are there any Jewish WNs like me? No. Are there many Anglo-Saxon WNs like me? Yes.

    I’m an Anglo-Saxon. Are there any Jewish WNs like me? No. Are there many Anglo-Saxon WNs like me? Yes.

    Yep . Most WASP elites were not exactly welcoming to Jews in general until Western decline accelerated rapidly in the 1960′s. There were caps on their attendance, for instance, at WASP elite schools and it now appears with very good reason.

    Yes, anti-Semitic but they weren’t alone. If you setup a WASP school, yes, you want your own WASP kids to attend. Blacks setup their own schools (some ending up with very good reputations) as did Catholics (same). In the case of Jews, it appears their work ethic and bookish orientation created sort of a virtual take over of the culture of elite schools with time. Those old crank male WASPs seem to have had..gasp a legitimate concern.

    That said, I do think the WASP elite have collapsed. Secular children of Christians and Jews will have some pretty similar attitudes towards the masses and their role towards them in this environment, which is perhaps why the line has blurred for the moment.

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  198. Eagle Eye says:
    @Almost Missouri
    It's a fair point.

    Nevertheless, B. Husein Obama presents himself as the son of Kenyan Luo Obama Sr. in his book, which is where the original quote was from. Whether his presentation is really true or not isn't necessarily relevant to the rhetorical/aesthetic/civilizational corner that Obama painted himself into by defining himself as the (p)resident alien.

    Nevertheless, B. Husein Obama presents himself as the son of Kenyan Luo Obama Sr. in his book, which is where the original quote was from. Whether his presentation is really true or not isn’t necessarily relevant to the rhetorical/aesthetic/civilizational corner that Obama painted himself into by defining himself as the (p)resident alien.

    What is even more astounding is that it is still possible to gain the sympathy of African-Americans by openly claiming to be descended from Luo slave traders.

    Of course, the entire issue of the East African slave trade to the Muslim world – much more extensive in time and scope, and much more brutal (emasculation upon capture, infanticide of children born to female slave) – has been pushed down the memory hole.

    All this shows what Democrats really think of the education system they have inflicted on blacks (and the entire country) since the 1950s.

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  199. Dahlia says:
    @ANON
    I am certainly not in favor of war with Russia. But unlike some people I am not so grandiose as to believe my opinions can influence the US government.

    I don't read the media or watch TV news ever. I stopped believing the media a year or so after I finished college many years ago. My general rule about the MSM is to believe the opposite of what they write is the truth. During the Serbia Bosnia war I still read the Sunday paper. The papers and magazines were full of Serbia evil monsters Bosnia angelic victims. I didn't pay much attention but I knew that since the MSM was against Serbia the Serbs must be the good guys.

    I was right, the MSM was wrong.

    But I'm tired of saker's anti Poland rants inserted into every article even if the article is about Syria and Israel

    “But I’m tired of saker’s anti Poland rants inserted into every article even if the article is about Syria and Israel”

    Yeah, I like my propaganda more subtle. The hammer over the head thing is rather insulting: we’re not worthy of a more strenuous effort? So, I haven’t read Saker in awhile. Didn’t know he was anti-Poland; doesn’t surprise me at all.

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  200. Dahlia says:
    @Boudica-Judaica

    Bouie is probably the dumbest MSM writer today.
     
    Not at all. Bouie is a shameless, self-aware cynic, from my reading, playing the careerist game of click-bait journalism. He has a good grasp on the power of tribalism, especially that shown by his white leftist readers, to whose prejudices and blindspots he panders.

    When not writing about race, as he once did, he displayed a solid knowledge of history, sociology, and politics beyond the navel of black America (which other black journalists in his niche seldom demonstrate).

    In fact I've always imagined that at some point in his early career interacting with Teh-Genius Coates as a supposed mentor, Bouie had to realize what an ignorant and intellectually-limited man America's Greatest Public Intellectual™ is.

    When not writing about race, as he once did, he displayed a solid knowledge of history, sociology, and politics beyond the navel of black America (which other black journalists in his niche seldom demonstrate).

    That is interesting! I only have a passing familiarity with him, only borne of his stupid witch hunts and the smart set following him: I find the whole thing fascinating from a sociological point-of-view. He starts a hysterical, but really dumb, witch hunt, and his fellow travelers fall into line. Channeling the late Lawrence Auster, they would have to, wouldn’t they? But what you’re saying is is that he’s a smart guy mostly being cynical -or simply craven- with his calling card of race.

    So, kind of sort of like the Emperor’s New Clothes: Bouie spins a yarn and the great and good, per the demands of their principles, have to pretend that what he’s saying isn’t bone-crushingly stupid? Interesting.

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  201. Dahlia says:
    @Ed
    I've been blocked, unblocked and blocked again by Bouie, the last time for a tweet I sent to someone else. He used to sarcastically call me his favorite person on Twitter for being black and very conservative. Since Twitter's change of blocking policy, I don't see his tweets and often forget that he exists. I no longer go to Slate or his page. This Sailer post was the first I've seen from him in months. It's interesting how Trump's election and the respondent hysteria from the press has turned me off to reading or watching many of them. Used to watch Morning Joe religiously, now I just watch Bloomberg for a few and off I go to work.

    What you say is very true, liberal and GOPe writers follow Bouie's lead religiously. I was unblocked at the the time of Razib, so after I saw him denounce NYT as being racist for hiring him. I knew Razib would be gone by the end of the day.

    Bouie strikes me as a smart black guy that "notices" but can't admit that he "notices". That's how I think he knew about Razib and he definitely reads Sailer.

    He's admitted once that he could never publicly bash black people even if warranted. For example, he was picked on by other black kids for being nerdy but will go out of his way to say it's not black people's fault.

    What you say is very true, liberal and GOPe writers follow Bouie’s lead religiously. I was unblocked at the the time of Razib, so after I saw him denounce NYT as being racist for hiring him. I knew Razib would be gone by the end of the day.

    As I said in another reply, I find the whole culture, interplay, etc. amongst that group, fascinating. And I can’t help but think of the late Lawrence Auster and he always saying that the exception will always give way, eventually, to the principle. That has been succeeding as Auster taught with this group and we’ve arrived at the Emperor’s New Clothes dynamic being starkly in play. If what Judaica/Boudica says is true -that Bouie actually is smart- than that old fable has far more resonance than I ever imagined:
    Bouie, a nice black guy, gives the “smart” gatekeeping liberals what they want, which is increasingly getting stupid as reality bears down more and more. And they all pretendeth that he spake erudition. On his tongue was wisdom and discernment, the wisest elders proclaimed. So it was written.

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  202. Art Deco says:
    @imbroglio
    Some of my best friends are of Polish ancestry as are many of my neighbors. I even have a "Polska Ordnowiona" t shirt I got at the Kozciuzko Legion Post. That should qualify me as a pundit worth listening to. So here's the skinny:

    Sooner of later, Linda Sarsour and her pals are going to kick the Israelis out of Palestine and send them back to where they came from (those who manage to get away.) Most of them came from Poland, and no people have hated the Jews more than the Poles. Makes sense. The Poles have had the kiesters kicked out of them over the course of their twelve hundred year existence and have needed a dog to kick in turn. Who better than those poor Jewish snooks in the Polish stetls who had even less of a pot to piddle in than the poor kicked around Poles had.

    Let the Muslims migrate to France, the U.K. and the States. The Poles should take in the Jews and this time do it nicely. After all, Israelis are hardly Jewish anymore and are thoroughly Westernized in their outlook and tastes. They'd be decent friends and neighbors, enabling history to have the chance to not repeat itself. Proof? When the Pope visited Israel not many moons ago, he got an even more rousing welcome than Brittney Spears got when she bopped over to the Western Wall last week.

    Czincuye!

    Sooner of later, Linda Sarsour and her pals are going to kick the Israelis out of Palestine

    Your chums have been working on the project for 90 years. How’s it workin’ out for ya?

    and send them back to where they came from (those who manage to get away.) Most of them came from Poland,

    No, most of them came from various parts of the Near East and North Africa. About 2/3 of European Jewry did not survive the war and only about 1% of Israel’s Jewish population consists of migrants from North America.

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  203. Art Deco says:
    @ANON
    80 percent of planned parenthood abortions are black women. Nationwide the ratio of black to White abortions is 4 to 1. Hispanics have the highest rate of abortions of all the races.

    Praise the lord, thank you Jesus for abortion. We're it not for abortion there would have been millions more blacks and Hispanics born since 1970. Think how high the crime rates would be if not for abortion. Think about affirmative action, violent schools, screeching N words spending the day on the bus benches in front of 7-11s.

    As far as the declining percentage of Whites goes, the solution is not Whites having more children but other races having fewer children. The reason non Whites are such a huge percentage isn't natural increase, its our government allowing cannibal capitalism to hire and import non Whites so as to gradually eliminate American Whites.

    Free birth control? The best thing for Whites would be free compulsory birth control for non Whites. Of course cannibal capitalism would still import non Whites to replace us.

    If anti abortion is the rallying cry of White conservatives we are lost. The anti abortion crew would better serve Whites by fighting affirmative action, and immigration legal and illegal

    Conservative complain about the taxes Whites pay to support blacks in prison and on life long welfare. For every black and Hispanic baby aborted that's one less useless eater who will be supported by Whites all his or her life.

    Those anti abortion preachers and activists are traitors to the White race.

    80 percent of planned parenthood abortions are black women. Nationwide the ratio of black to White abortions is 4 to 1. Hispanics have the highest rate of abortions of all the races.

    Actually: white Anglo, 38%; black, 37%; hispanic, 19%; other, 6%

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/cdc-black-and-hispanic-babies-aborted-2012-224839-or-554-abortions

    Those anti abortion preachers and activists are traitors to the White race.

    I’m sure they’ll find your animadversions just mortifying.

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  204. Art Deco says:
    @whorefinder
    So, in other words, you agree the Grahams are WASP-Jewish, and have a shabbos goy as a front man as well as come shabbos goy mixers.

    Tell me again how light skinned blacks with white ancestors don't identify with blacks more than whites? The same holds true for most part-Jewish folk these days: they tend to identify with their Jewish side rather than their European side.

    So, in other words, you agree the Grahams are WASP-Jewish, and have a shabbos goy as a front man as well as come shabbos goy mixers.

    You fancy Timothy O’Shaughnessy is a ‘shabbos-goy’ to a man who died in 1957 who he’s never met?

    Katherine Weymouth has 2 or 3 WASP great-grandparents and 1 Jewish great-grandparent. Her WASP great-grandparents were generic rank-and-file Americans, not New York – New England bluebloods.

    Ted Cruz has one great-grandparent who was old-stock American and two who were Italian, but people aren’t going around calling Ted Cruz “WASP-Italian”. Maybe because they don’t have so many ethnic antagonism and crackpot anthropological theories floating around in their head that it defeats their capacity to do ordinary arithmetic.

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  205. Art Deco says:
    @ANON
    Davis was a communist. Grandpa and grandma Dunham were communists. Stanley Anne was raised communist. Ask Mr. google about pictures of Davis, Obama and the Kenyan. Look at the pictures.

    Then decide on your own. If you don't believe what I wrote, I certainly don't care. You're not my boss or high school teacher. Go start a fight with someone else.

    I believe it, you don't. How can you possibly think I'm influenced by you?

    Davis was a communist. Grandpa and grandma Dunham were communists. Stanley Anne was raised communist.

    No. Frank Marshall Davis was a Communist Party member as late as 1947. The Communist Party lost the vast bulk of its membership over the succeeding 10 years, reduced at one point to a few thousand. Davis arrived in Hawaii as an official of Bridges Longshoreman. By 1955, he was employed as a salesman and living in a village on the north side of Oahu.

    The notion that Stanley Dunham, Madelyn Dunham, or their annoying daughter were Communist Party members has no reality outside the space between your ears.

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  206. goofy says:
    @whorefinder
    Slate morphed into Salon so slowly I didn't even notice!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzXwwNXMKAY

    No, seriously. I did notice years ago they were going there; I stopped reading them in probably 2004 or 05, when they 90% lefty propaganda opinion pieces.

    The Grahams, that WASP-Jewish clan, having sold the Post, are now freed of any pretense of presenting anything more than opinion/commentary, are running wild in Slate attacking the Irish-Italian-Scots-Irish interlopers who dare challenge them for political and social power, using any brown, yellow, or black group as a weapon against them.

    Everything old is new again. Including identity politics.

    I have noticed this began over 100 years ago and has been destructively waging war on the american people for at least that long. Thank you for pointing out the ‘evil doers’.

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  207. @Thomas

    African Americans have obviously a complicated relationship with the western tradition but in the long run have benefitted greatly from it and are a part of it. Christianity, the end of slavery ( a huge debt to Great Britain), jazz played mainly on western instruments, western capitalist individual liberty and property rights leading to economic success. Integration of the US military.
     
    White America will be waiting past the Second Coming for its own mystical redeemer: the Grateful Negro. Even Obama couldn't sell that. He articulated exactly how racially-conscious blacks (even half-white ones) feel, at best, about Western civilization in his time in Paris recounted in "Dreams From My Father": "It wasn’t that Europe wasn’t beautiful; everything was just as I’d imagined it. It just wasn’t mine." At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors also created the crowning achievements of civilization from which you benefit.

    At worst, you get barely repressed rage at the realization that the people who enslaved your ancestors

    Like the black Africans that enslaved your ancestors and sold them to White merchants?

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  208. @Art Deco
    I am positive Frank Marshall Davis was more than a mentor. I’m positive he was obama’s father. Commies grandpa Dunham and Davis were lifelong buddies.

    They were nothing of the kind. They met sometime between 1960 and 1971. They were twelve years apart in age so unlikely to have been 'lifelong buddies' even if they'd lived next door to each other. As it happens, they were both native to the same section of Kansas, but lived more than 60 miles apart in 1920, more than 60 miles apart in 1925, and more than 100 miles apart in 1930. By 1935, Davis had decamped to Chicago, a city in which Stanley Dunham never lived.

    There is no indication outside the Wacky World of Websites that Stanley Armour Dunham, furniture and insurance salesman, was ever a member of the Communist Party or had any intellectual interests.

    Barack Obama was conceived in November 1960. The Dunhams moved to Hawaii in June 1960. You're going to tell me that a 55 year old man running a paper distributorship and resident 15 miles away from the Dunhams is a more plausible candidate for sire than a 24 year old foreign student at the University of Hawaii enrolled in one of Ann Dunham's classes.

    There is no indication outside the Wacky World of Websites that Stanley Armour Dunham, furniture and insurance salesman, was ever a member of the Communist Party

    It looks like you are going to focus on the technicality of being an official member of the Communist Party USA, which in the 1950s had only 5,000 members. One can be a Communist without voting for the Communist Party USA. None the less, Dunham sent his daughter to a school whose chairman was in fact one of the 5,000 Communist Party members.

    Here’s an article about Stanley Armour Dunham on a Wacky World Website, Wikipedia:

    Stanley Armour Dunham
    … In 1956 they moved to the Shorewood Apartments on Mercer Island, a Seattle suburb. Ann attended high school there

    More information on Mercer Island High School from another Wacky World Website, Time Magazine:

    INVESTIGATIONS: Out of a Man’s Past
    Monday, Apr. 11, 1955
    Seattle newspapers ran headlines when gentlemanly John Stenhouse, chairman of the suburban Mercer Island school board, last month told a congressional hearing that had summoned him as a witness: “I was a member of the Communist Party.”

    Another Wacky World Website, Seattle Times:

    Obama’s mother known here as “uncommon”
    … One respite was found in a wing of Mercer Island High called “anarchy alley.” Jim Wichterman taught a wide-open philosophy course that included Karl Marx. Next door, Val Foubert taught a rigorous dose of literature, including Margaret Mead’s writings on homosexuality.

    Those classes prompted what Wichterman, now 80 and retired in Ellensburg, called “mothers’ marches” of parents outraged at the curriculum.

    Was he a Communist? You decide.

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    He sent his daughter to the local suburban high school. A member of the local school board had a past. No clue what that local politician's past has to do with Stanley Dunham's interests and affiliations. It's a reasonable wager that abut 91% of the district residents with high-school age children sent them to that school, because that's about average in this country. You fancy they were all crypto-Communists?

    As for Ann Dunham, in her was conjoined ample intelligence, a deficit of siblings, a deficit of friends, a deficit of transmitted culture, and a deficit of feminine charms. Her father was an unserious man. He enrolled in a Unitarian congregation because "you get five religions for the price of one". He moved his family around every few years, never staying longer than five years in one place until his wife displaced him as primary breadwinner and her influence and his age compelled them to settle in ticky-tacky Honolulu. So, here you have an ugly little girl (later merely a plain adolescent girl) living away from her relatives, living apart from a stable social network, unattractive to ordinary men, receiving (for all anyone knows) no domestic education beyond schooling in the obedience necessary to make domestic life tolerable, but being in a peculiar bargaining position vis a vis her mother and father because she's pretty much all they have. What is the attraction of red-haze politics, but to establish your unremarkable self as So Very Special?

  209. Art Deco says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome


    There is no indication outside the Wacky World of Websites that Stanley Armour Dunham, furniture and insurance salesman, was ever a member of the Communist Party

     

    It looks like you are going to focus on the technicality of being an official member of the Communist Party USA, which in the 1950s had only 5,000 members. One can be a Communist without voting for the Communist Party USA. None the less, Dunham sent his daughter to a school whose chairman was in fact one of the 5,000 Communist Party members.

    Here's an article about Stanley Armour Dunham on a Wacky World Website, Wikipedia:


    Stanley Armour Dunham
    ... In 1956 they moved to the Shorewood Apartments on Mercer Island, a Seattle suburb. Ann attended high school there

     

    More information on Mercer Island High School from another Wacky World Website, Time Magazine:


    INVESTIGATIONS: Out of a Man's Past
    Monday, Apr. 11, 1955
    Seattle newspapers ran headlines when gentlemanly John Stenhouse, chairman of the suburban Mercer Island school board, last month told a congressional hearing that had summoned him as a witness: "I was a member of the Communist Party."

     

    Another Wacky World Website, Seattle Times:


    Obama’s mother known here as “uncommon”
    ... One respite was found in a wing of Mercer Island High called “anarchy alley.” Jim Wichterman taught a wide-open philosophy course that included Karl Marx. Next door, Val Foubert taught a rigorous dose of literature, including Margaret Mead’s writings on homosexuality.

    Those classes prompted what Wichterman, now 80 and retired in Ellensburg, called “mothers’ marches” of parents outraged at the curriculum.

     

    Was he a Communist? You decide.

    He sent his daughter to the local suburban high school. A member of the local school board had a past. No clue what that local politician’s past has to do with Stanley Dunham’s interests and affiliations. It’s a reasonable wager that abut 91% of the district residents with high-school age children sent them to that school, because that’s about average in this country. You fancy they were all crypto-Communists?

    As for Ann Dunham, in her was conjoined ample intelligence, a deficit of siblings, a deficit of friends, a deficit of transmitted culture, and a deficit of feminine charms. Her father was an unserious man. He enrolled in a Unitarian congregation because “you get five religions for the price of one”. He moved his family around every few years, never staying longer than five years in one place until his wife displaced him as primary breadwinner and her influence and his age compelled them to settle in ticky-tacky Honolulu. So, here you have an ugly little girl (later merely a plain adolescent girl) living away from her relatives, living apart from a stable social network, unattractive to ordinary men, receiving (for all anyone knows) no domestic education beyond schooling in the obedience necessary to make domestic life tolerable, but being in a peculiar bargaining position vis a vis her mother and father because she’s pretty much all they have. What is the attraction of red-haze politics, but to establish your unremarkable self as So Very Special?

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    One thing to keep in mind that I haven't seen explored is that Stanley Ann Dunham's parents were the black sheep of fairly sophisticated families. Her paternal uncle and maternal aunt were Ph.D's. Her father's brother, Dr. Ralph Waldo Emerson Dunham, had a long career with the federal government. He was interviewed at length in Janny Scott's biography of the President's mother and, around age 90, was an articulate and interesting fellow.

    My vague impression is that Obama came out of a family of somewhat left of center Cold Warriors.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome


    No clue what that local politician’s past has to do with Stanley Dunham’s interests and affiliations.

     

    He moved there from another town. Maybe it is a coincidence. Maybe he is a Communist and chose that high school because it had a strong Communist presence. By your exacting standards there were literally no Communists in America.
  210. @Art Deco
    He sent his daughter to the local suburban high school. A member of the local school board had a past. No clue what that local politician's past has to do with Stanley Dunham's interests and affiliations. It's a reasonable wager that abut 91% of the district residents with high-school age children sent them to that school, because that's about average in this country. You fancy they were all crypto-Communists?

    As for Ann Dunham, in her was conjoined ample intelligence, a deficit of siblings, a deficit of friends, a deficit of transmitted culture, and a deficit of feminine charms. Her father was an unserious man. He enrolled in a Unitarian congregation because "you get five religions for the price of one". He moved his family around every few years, never staying longer than five years in one place until his wife displaced him as primary breadwinner and her influence and his age compelled them to settle in ticky-tacky Honolulu. So, here you have an ugly little girl (later merely a plain adolescent girl) living away from her relatives, living apart from a stable social network, unattractive to ordinary men, receiving (for all anyone knows) no domestic education beyond schooling in the obedience necessary to make domestic life tolerable, but being in a peculiar bargaining position vis a vis her mother and father because she's pretty much all they have. What is the attraction of red-haze politics, but to establish your unremarkable self as So Very Special?

    One thing to keep in mind that I haven’t seen explored is that Stanley Ann Dunham’s parents were the black sheep of fairly sophisticated families. Her paternal uncle and maternal aunt were Ph.D’s. Her father’s brother, Dr. Ralph Waldo Emerson Dunham, had a long career with the federal government. He was interviewed at length in Janny Scott’s biography of the President’s mother and, around age 90, was an articulate and interesting fellow.

    My vague impression is that Obama came out of a family of somewhat left of center Cold Warriors.

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  211. @Art Deco
    He sent his daughter to the local suburban high school. A member of the local school board had a past. No clue what that local politician's past has to do with Stanley Dunham's interests and affiliations. It's a reasonable wager that abut 91% of the district residents with high-school age children sent them to that school, because that's about average in this country. You fancy they were all crypto-Communists?

    As for Ann Dunham, in her was conjoined ample intelligence, a deficit of siblings, a deficit of friends, a deficit of transmitted culture, and a deficit of feminine charms. Her father was an unserious man. He enrolled in a Unitarian congregation because "you get five religions for the price of one". He moved his family around every few years, never staying longer than five years in one place until his wife displaced him as primary breadwinner and her influence and his age compelled them to settle in ticky-tacky Honolulu. So, here you have an ugly little girl (later merely a plain adolescent girl) living away from her relatives, living apart from a stable social network, unattractive to ordinary men, receiving (for all anyone knows) no domestic education beyond schooling in the obedience necessary to make domestic life tolerable, but being in a peculiar bargaining position vis a vis her mother and father because she's pretty much all they have. What is the attraction of red-haze politics, but to establish your unremarkable self as So Very Special?

    No clue what that local politician’s past has to do with Stanley Dunham’s interests and affiliations.

    He moved there from another town. Maybe it is a coincidence. Maybe he is a Communist and chose that high school because it had a strong Communist presence. By your exacting standards there were literally no Communists in America.

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  212. Neither the French nor Americans have any clue about the Indian subcontinent which is the basis of Camp of the Saints about an invasion of Calcutta Hindus, i.e. ‘saints’.

    It’s as relevant as Paul Ehrlich’s Population Bomb. Also discredited by subsequent India development.

    You guys need a new hobbyhorse.

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