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Here’s Senator Bernie Sanders attempting to address a large crowd in Seattle that had peacefully assembled to hear the Presidential candidate. Wow, the part from 1:00 onward is something.

The next one picks up about where the first one left off:

The presidential candidate eventually gave up and walked off his stage.

As I’ve been saying, the Democrats are the Coalition of the Fringes.

Bernie may be a Socialist, but he’s still a straight white male so therefore random rageheads who are demographically fringier than him are entitled to scream him off his stage.

 
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  1. God, it must be fun to go around breaking up people’s rallies and seizing the stage with impunity. Somehow I don’t think I’d get away with it–I don’t have standing.

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    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
    Andrew Breitbart did this to Anthony Wiener.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIJRyJkQXyc

    Pretty humiliating.
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  2. When the chick with the long silver braids started shrieking in the face of the guy that bore an uncanny resemblance to Alan Arkin, and waving her arms in his face, he should have shoved her ass off that stage. I would have.

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    But you're a woman. I'm with Hepp, I thought she looked kinda cute when she was trying to act bossy. I think I would have laughed and told her so.
    , @Truth


    When the chick with the long silver braids started shrieking in the face of the guy that bore an uncanny resemblance to Alan Arkin, and waving her arms in his face, he should have shoved her ass off that stage. I would have
     
    Hey, an arrest for assault and battery certainly would give him street and badboy appeal!
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  3. AKAHorace says:

    What is he saying when they drive him off the stage ? Why are they trying to silence him ?

    Would these blacks support Clinton ?

    A bit more context for foreigners please Steve.

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    • Replies: @Glossy
    There's been some speculation that the Black Lives Matter people are paid by Soros to disrupt Bernie's campaign. Soros is backing Hillary. However, Bernie was never a serious threat to Hillary. Is this even necessary from the Hillary/Soros perspective?

    On the other hand if these women decided to do this all by themselves, why Bernie, off all the targets they could have chosen? And this is the second time that they've done this to him. I could have understood one time - Black lives (I'm not talking about the organization) are often chaotic and unpredictable. Random, illogical stuff happens in them with some frequency. But this is a pattern now.

    , @Daniel Williams

    Why are they trying to silence him ?
     
    Dude, they're black. There is no rational explanation.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    A bit more context for foreigners please Steve
     
    The ultimate foreigner, Mr Soros, essentially is the context.
    , @anon
    He'd only just started speaking.
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  4. Hepp says:

    Incredible! This is the first time I’ve ever actually let myself believe there could be a crackup on the left.

    It’s nice to see these nice whites going to Bernie Sanders rallies are having their white space invaded by those they went to help.

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  5. Hepp says:

    The girl on the right would be gorgeous if she dropped about 30 pounds. Nice eye candy, hard to hate her when you look like that.

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    • Replies: @anon
    Yeah, the most shrill one? She looks half asian. Actually, several of those blacks look biracial.

    Same deal several days ago at the Black Lives Matter event at Cleavland State University, where the leadership asked all white people (i.e. a single reporter) to leave the circle. The leaders were predominantly light skinned and there were a bunch of obviously biracial little kids milling about.

    http://www.cleveland.com/naymik/index.ssf/2015/07/police_and_movement_for_black.html

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  6. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Bernie, do you feel in charge?

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  7. e says:

    They remind me physically and verbally of Rosie O’Donnell. Wish Trump had been there to say, “Shut up you slobs—by the way. Lay off the Cheetos. You’re pretty damned young to be so hefty.”

    That would have done my heart good.

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    • Replies: @tbraton
    "They remind me physically and verbally of Rosie O’Donnell. Wish Trump had been there to say, “Shut up you slobs—by the way. Lay off the Cheetos. You’re pretty damned young to be so hefty.”
    That would have done my heart good."

    But that would have gotten Trump disinvited to speak by some "conservative" organization called "Red State" and criticized by some "conservatives" named Lindsey Graham and Carly Fiorina. He wouldn't dare.

    This is why I have been saying on other iSteve threads that some audacious Republican should make hay out of this Black Lives Matter issue (Martin O'Malley stated it just right: "all lives matter") and create havoc in the Democratic Party. You can tell from some of the loud voices in the background that at least some liberal Democrats are getting fed up with this nonsense. I believe the act is right out of Tom Wolfe 40+ years ago: "mau-mauing the flack catchers."
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  8. t says:

    Here’s a video with the crowd reaction:

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  9. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Vermont is such a ‘progressive’ state.

    Let them have all this ‘diversity’.

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  10. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Where is security?

    The best Lib vs Lib War!

    Hilarious.

    Blew Lib Gentrification BS out of the water.

    Seattle, ‘the most progressive’ city that is racially and economically segregated.

    LOL.

    Soros’ Ferguson ploy spilling to OTHER cities.

    I hope it hits NY soon.

    No wonder urban Libs want to spread the diversity around.

    They don’t want to deal with this shit.

    Black Debating Style turns into activism.

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    • Replies: @tbraton
    "Black Debating Style turns into activism."

    I was thinking the same thing.
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  11. Young American lefties seem fond of this despondent sort of “scorched-Earth” policy when it comes to making their voices heard.

    It’s just attention whoredom with a cause.

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  12. Polearm says:

    Speechless in Seattle.

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  13. Anonymous says: • Website • Disclaimer

    HOW DARE YOU

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  14. The whites in the crowd are thinking “I should have moved to Portland…”

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZt-pOc3moc
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  15. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    “Democrats are the Coalition of the Fringes.”

    Coalition of the Privileged and the Fringes.

    The Fringes are figuring out that the Privileged say one thing, do something else.

    It explains why the elites used homomania to drown out fringe noise.

    Maybe Sanders should hire some homos to scuffle with BLM crowd in one corner while he delivers the speech.

    Anyway, it is pretty funny that ‘socialist’ Sanders hails from rich Vermont and appeals to Latte Starbucks ‘socialists’ who are actually yuppies, the kind who pay good money to see ‘prole’ Bruce Springsteen whose concerts can’t be afford by actual proles.

    Starbucks and Microsoft are perfect symbols of Seattle and new ‘progressivism’. Mega-globalist corporations ruthlessly seeking marketshare while talking a good game.
    But that’s okay. They are pro-homo.

    As much as I hate ‘gay marriage’, I sorta looked forward to its victory cuz the Libs no longer have the ‘last great cause’ that galvanized them. It was supposed to be their ultimate victory, but it’s really hollow and means NOTHING to most people. With nothing to unite the ‘left’ in moral passion, there is only the crackup.

    PS. Blacks were never into the ‘gay agenda’ but as Obama seemed to be for it, they went along with it. But when the homos were celebrating and even white house went fruity, Negroes must have been thinking, ‘but what about us?’

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  16. The funny thing is that Sanders is a race baiting demagogue himself, he just cannot use the same tactics on blacks that he uses on whites. This is probably the first time in his life he is getting a taste of what he has been giving and he does not seem to be handling it well. I hope he is enjoying it.

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  17. @Harry Baldwin
    God, it must be fun to go around breaking up people's rallies and seizing the stage with impunity. Somehow I don't think I'd get away with it--I don't have standing.

    Andrew Breitbart did this to Anthony Wiener.

    Pretty humiliating.

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    • Replies: @Boomstick
    That wasn't the same thing at all. Brietbart happened to be at the news conference that Wiener had called. Wiener was late to the start of his own conference, so Brietbart just strolled up and started taking questions.

    It was brilliant theater.
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  18. Glossy says: • Website
    @AKAHorace
    What is he saying when they drive him off the stage ? Why are they trying to silence him ?

    Would these blacks support Clinton ?

    A bit more context for foreigners please Steve.

    There’s been some speculation that the Black Lives Matter people are paid by Soros to disrupt Bernie’s campaign. Soros is backing Hillary. However, Bernie was never a serious threat to Hillary. Is this even necessary from the Hillary/Soros perspective?

    On the other hand if these women decided to do this all by themselves, why Bernie, off all the targets they could have chosen? And this is the second time that they’ve done this to him. I could have understood one time – Black lives (I’m not talking about the organization) are often chaotic and unpredictable. Random, illogical stuff happens in them with some frequency. But this is a pattern now.

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    • Replies: @PB and J
    Shades of "Iron my shirts!" in New Hampshire, 2008. (Hillary, in that case.)
    , @Anonymous
    I don't know how well he's doing now, but Sanders had pretty decent polling and some momentum recently. He was drawing large crowds and grassroots support. There's not that much excitement for Hillary. She's the Dem establishment candidate right now,. There's lots of Hillary and Clinton fatigue.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Soros is a Wall Street oligarch and currency manipulator. He has a long history of making money through insider trading, which is supported by his access to information channels. He's a well known backer of Hillary.

    Soros is backing these #BlackLivesMatter protesters and sending them to disrupt Sanders events. Clinton probably promised to pass inside information to Soros once she gets into the White House. She's already made $140 million since leaving the White House, much of it from Wall Street "speaking fees." Hillary is a paid whore and that's why Soros is backing her. He knows he'll get a return from her.
    , @Karl
    >> if these women decided to do this all by themselves, why Bernie, off all the targets they could have chosen?

    Because predators can smell weakness.
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  19. Dahlia says:

    https://www.facebook.com/BLMSeattle/posts/716844418437393

    They hate white liberals far more than they hate any white Southern conservative. But that’s not news…

    Bernie Sanders showed immense grace.

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    • Replies: @e
    Bernie showed grace? Seriously?

    He comes off to me as a cuckolded wimp, just like most prog males. He just moved over and let them take over. Disgraceful. WW2 generation of men rolling over in their graves.
    , @Anonymous
    lol, "showed immense grace..." Not to the other people in the crowd who showed up to hear him speak. I think the word you were looking for was "cowardice"

    Granted, a paid-up lib of Bern's generation doesn't exactly know how to start throwing elbows with actual live black people in the room -- that's just courting psychological meltdown
    , @Don't look at me
    Should we call him a "Cuckocrat?"
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  20. Dr. Doom says:

    Any chance this rent a mob is working for our old friend George Soros? I hear the nation wrecker who likes to destroy currencies for fun and profit is bankrolling the black intifada. Guess he has to do something between crashing economies. Funny he would sic his mob on old Bernie though. Is he ready for Hillary? Is Hillary ready for Hillary? Somebody better take Dorian Gray into the shop and get Dr. Frankenstein to do some work. She looks like she’s falling apart like a cheap suit. I would have thought she would get a Madonna style bodysculpt to take ten or more years off of her. With the cigar store Indian sitting out the race those crazy Gynosupremacists aren’t gonna be happy if a womyn doesn’t ride the horse this time. Maybe Crazy Joe Biden can wear a dress? He crazy – he’d do it for the good of the party I’m sure. Get him some estrogen cornflakes.

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    She looks like she’s falling apart like a cheap suit.
     
    Nice. Reminds me of Ross MacDonald's "his blond, blue-eyed good looks were pealing around the edges like veneer."
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  21. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Blacks Lives may matter but

    Hamburgers Matter too.

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  22. SPMoore8 says:

    Well, that was pretty incredible.

    I don’t know if I have seen such self pity, such a sense of entitlement, such pushy (literally) behavior ever, excluding the conduct of three year olds. I mean the way the one black chick starts crying when she says, “I had to fight through all of this just to say that my life matters!” And the way the other black chick was screaming at the event organizer, pushing him, and almost hitting him, to yield the microphone. I had no idea it was that chaotic and frankly violent.

    The word for this is: Indulgence. We are indulgent of this kind of foolishness, and these two gals, who might even be former members of a debate team, are used to getting their way, no matter how absurd and out of place their actions are.

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    "I don’t know if I have seen such self pity, such a sense of entitlement, such pushy (literally) behavior ever, excluding the conduct of three year olds."

    I remember being at a public event with a long line for the outhouses. When a couple of young black men cut to the front, many of those in line urged them to wait their turn. One of the black men responded by shouting "My people have been waiting in line for 400 years".
    , @Harold

    the way the one black chick starts crying when she says, “I had to fight through all of this just to say that my life matters!”
     
    As if any of those who have been killed (mostly justifiably) have been female, let alone light-skinned females. Ridiculous.
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  23. Corvinus says:

    “As I’ve been saying, the Democrats are the Coalition of the Fringes.”

    [Laughs] Say it all you want. The loudmouth fringes get all the publicity and ink; hence, it is really easy to label Democrats in this regard. Likewise, one could point to the recent hullabaloo over “cuckservative”, with Manospherists, white nationalists, “die-hard” conservatives, and establishment Republicans getting their collective undergarments in a twist over some meme that absolutely means nothing as evidence that Republicans are also referred to as the Coalition of the Fringes. It’s comic gold.

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    I wonder if or when we'll see the Republican equivalent, where protesters try to break up Republican rallies for being "cuckservatives" and not pro-white enough. A lot of the recent "black lives matter" stuff seems to have originated among blacks online through social media where there's immediate and constant feedback and reinforcement by like minded people, much like the "cuckservative" stuff.
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  24. Bert says:

    I feel kind of bad for the old fool. He clearly doesn’t understand how to react to these things.

    Bernie is sort of an FDR Democrat who can’t fathom the reality of identity politics.

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    It's basically democratic socialism or social democracy vs. black national socialism.
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  25. PB and J says:
    @Glossy
    There's been some speculation that the Black Lives Matter people are paid by Soros to disrupt Bernie's campaign. Soros is backing Hillary. However, Bernie was never a serious threat to Hillary. Is this even necessary from the Hillary/Soros perspective?

    On the other hand if these women decided to do this all by themselves, why Bernie, off all the targets they could have chosen? And this is the second time that they've done this to him. I could have understood one time - Black lives (I'm not talking about the organization) are often chaotic and unpredictable. Random, illogical stuff happens in them with some frequency. But this is a pattern now.

    Shades of “Iron my shirts!” in New Hampshire, 2008. (Hillary, in that case.)

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  26. Danindc says:

    Steve, how did you miss Speechless in Seattle??? That was a freakin lay up for you. You’re slipping big time.

    Cancel my subscription

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    Steve, how did you miss Speechless in Seattle??? That was a freakin lay up for you.
     
    Better still, "Bring in 'da Noise, Bring in 'da Funk" .
    , @Kylie

    Steve, how did you miss Speechless in Seattle??? That was a freakin lay up for you.
     
    Better still, "Bring in 'da Noise, Bring in 'da Funk" .
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  27. bjdubbs says:

    #2 most read (below Trump) on WaPo (but buried deep in the first page) and nowhere to be found on NYTimes. Apparently this news is too interesting for NYT readers. But there is a story about “Bernie’s Brooklyn Roots” or something.

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  28. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Glossy
    There's been some speculation that the Black Lives Matter people are paid by Soros to disrupt Bernie's campaign. Soros is backing Hillary. However, Bernie was never a serious threat to Hillary. Is this even necessary from the Hillary/Soros perspective?

    On the other hand if these women decided to do this all by themselves, why Bernie, off all the targets they could have chosen? And this is the second time that they've done this to him. I could have understood one time - Black lives (I'm not talking about the organization) are often chaotic and unpredictable. Random, illogical stuff happens in them with some frequency. But this is a pattern now.

    I don’t know how well he’s doing now, but Sanders had pretty decent polling and some momentum recently. He was drawing large crowds and grassroots support. There’s not that much excitement for Hillary. She’s the Dem establishment candidate right now,. There’s lots of Hillary and Clinton fatigue.

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    There’s not that much excitement for Hillary. She’s the Dem establishment candidate right now,. There’s lots of Hillary and Clinton fatigue.
     
    The Clintons have always seen consent as a speed bump, and its absence as a pothole to be deftly skirted.
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  29. Mr. Anon says:

    Towson debate team alumni?

    I hope that those nice leftist white people are able to draw the right conclusion from this. Bernie won’t even stand up for himself and his own rights against a black mob. He certainly won’t defend you or yours.

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  30. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Corvinus
    "As I’ve been saying, the Democrats are the Coalition of the Fringes."

    [Laughs] Say it all you want. The loudmouth fringes get all the publicity and ink; hence, it is really easy to label Democrats in this regard. Likewise, one could point to the recent hullabaloo over "cuckservative", with Manospherists, white nationalists, "die-hard" conservatives, and establishment Republicans getting their collective undergarments in a twist over some meme that absolutely means nothing as evidence that Republicans are also referred to as the Coalition of the Fringes. It's comic gold.

    I wonder if or when we’ll see the Republican equivalent, where protesters try to break up Republican rallies for being “cuckservatives” and not pro-white enough. A lot of the recent “black lives matter” stuff seems to have originated among blacks online through social media where there’s immediate and constant feedback and reinforcement by like minded people, much like the “cuckservative” stuff.

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    You might be a cuckservative if you compare the action on the right to these disruptions during Bernie Sander's campaign events.

    First, as discussed in length on this blog, Black Live Matter is a campaign based on fraudulent assumptions that is backed at length by POTUS, the US AG, often the courts, universities, and much of the mainstream media. The later take great pains to inflate and often distort the instances where police have killed blacks in the course of arrests. The tactics employed by these activists are entirely based on threat, confrontation, humiliation, and dominance.

    Cuckservative is entirely occurring in social media and in blogs. It accepts the idea that politics is downstream from culture and it attempts to push the Overton Window to allow the discussion of what its proponents believe are verifiable truths. This Sailer blog is dedicated to those truths. The use of studies, graphs, data, works by experts is unparalleled among blogs. And it is one of many that attempt to arrive at conclusions using the same methods.

    Yet to discuss these truths, and mind you the holders of these opinions are not idiots, we are often shouted down by cowardly accusations of Racist, Sexist, Misogynist, Homophobe, and the particularly stupid Transphobe. We have no support in any mainstream media. And the office holders of the GOP refuse to even mention these items on the campaign trail. They and the Republican media, along with Republican NGOs and think tanks have stood by, cowardly and allowed the church, as well as great conservative institutions and private individuals to be destroyed. And they have been ineffective in both governance and any defense of conservatism in the United States, as well as Europe.

    So as the NKVD set up machine guns behind Russian troops during assaults in WWII, we too have set up behind those Republican party officials and media to remind them that we will no longer be quiet, no longer be bludgeoned not only by the left, but also by our own party into accepting positions that we feel are truly detrimental to liberty in this country, to the liveability of this country, effective governance of this country, to a tyranny based on lies.

    Sailer has often hinted that a broad base of readers come to his blog, including many writers and probably elected officials. These truths are here for consumption, yet those same writers, even when exposed to this discussion by an exceptional writer and a rather august, broad based, highy intelligent set of readers and commenters, ignore these issues, and shout down discussion with epithets that worked up until now.

    So we resort to more effective "meme", a slur, delivered in an aggressive and confrontational manner, in the media, on social networks, and where years of discussion, where gigabytes of writing have failed, this tactic, coupled with the response given to by over 40% of the Republican base, a broad group that has been abandoned by the monied interest and the Republican political class, has done in a short time what prior methods failed to achieve.

    Make no mistake. For many of us, if our ideas are not adopted, we do not care if Clinton wins, and if she imposes a nightmare of Democratic policies for 8 years. For many of us, this country and the tyranny it imposes on the people that built it, its best citizens, means little to us in its current form. Better Clinton kill it so we may end it and start anew in another form based on true liberty, true justice, and true freedom for all.

    We do not care if "We make the black kids mad, or the fags, or the trannies, or feminists." We will not quietly sit in our cuck chair in the corner any longer. If that is like Black Lives Matter then too damn bad.

    White Lives Matter More. At least to me.

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  31. Bernie Sanders marched with MLK, has been arrested for protesting segregation and was personally present for the “I Have a Dream” speech. This has Soros written all over it

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    Bernie Sanders marched with MLK...

    And all those efforts bought him (and us) nothing.

    At least Sisyphus gets some exercise.
    , @Blair

    Bernie Sanders marched with MLK, has been arrested for protesting segregation and was personally present for the “I Have a Dream” speech. This has Soros written all over it
     
    And he is still despised and dismissed by blacks just for being white.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Farmer_and_the_Viper

    "The story concerns a farmer who finds a viper freezing in the snow. Taking pity on it, he picks it up and places it within his coat. The viper, revived by the warmth, bites his rescuer, who dies realizing that it is his own fault. The story is recorded in both Greek and Latin sources. In the former, the farmer dies reproaching himself "for pitying a scoundrel," while in the version by Phaedrus the snake says that he bit his benefactor "to teach the lesson not to expect a reward from the wicked.' "

    Democrats are stupid to have ever indulged or stoked a group organized around and animated by outrage that a man who attacked a police officer was subsequently shot and died.

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  32. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Bert
    I feel kind of bad for the old fool. He clearly doesn't understand how to react to these things.

    Bernie is sort of an FDR Democrat who can't fathom the reality of identity politics.

    It’s basically democratic socialism or social democracy vs. black national socialism.

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  33. @AKAHorace
    What is he saying when they drive him off the stage ? Why are they trying to silence him ?

    Would these blacks support Clinton ?

    A bit more context for foreigners please Steve.

    Why are they trying to silence him ?

    Dude, they’re black. There is no rational explanation.

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  34. Whiskey says: • Website

    This is a training exercise for the Democratic National Convention to get rid of Hillary! and install Michelle Obama, or Cory Booker, or Carolyn Mosby of Baltimore, or whoever Obama wants. Nothing more or less.

    Does anyone honestly think Black Activists sit around thinking “Hey What’s Bernie’s take on this? He hasn’t supported us! Lets get in his face and show us who is boss!” And then go out and do it?

    Someone got them up there to prepare the thing for the Democratic Convention. That someone is a person who got his house from Saddam’s bagman, got elected State Senator by disqualifying his mentor on the sly by dubious signature challenges, and got elected Senator by unsealing the Jeri Ryan divorce proceedings. Now of course, his modus operandi is to be above board and honest at all times.

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  35. Boomstick says:
    @Prof. Woland
    Andrew Breitbart did this to Anthony Wiener.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIJRyJkQXyc

    Pretty humiliating.

    That wasn’t the same thing at all. Brietbart happened to be at the news conference that Wiener had called. Wiener was late to the start of his own conference, so Brietbart just strolled up and started taking questions.

    It was brilliant theater.

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  36. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    They should schedule their own rally and not take over someone else’s.
    Their rudeness will only come back to haunt them. “What goes around, comes around.”
    BTW, Happy 41st Anniversary for everyone.

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  37. e says:
    @Dahlia
    https://www.facebook.com/BLMSeattle/posts/716844418437393

    They hate white liberals far more than they hate any white Southern conservative. But that's not news...

    Bernie Sanders showed immense grace.

    Bernie showed grace? Seriously?

    He comes off to me as a cuckolded wimp, just like most prog males. He just moved over and let them take over. Disgraceful. WW2 generation of men rolling over in their graves.

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    WW2 generation of men rolling over in their graves.
     
    The "generation" responsible for LBJ's record landslide brought that roll upon themselves. They can enjoy it.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    That's why Democrats need to become the party of blue collar white men again. It'd be a huge testosterone injection and also good politics.

    Progressive guys are pleasant, but there's no backbone. I wouldn't want them to have my back.
    , @Bill B.
    Do you remember "Don't Tase Me Bro!"?

    No subsequent failure by John Kerry then surprised me.

    He could not deal with a garrulous, albeit polite, student. Made in fact no attempt to cut him off; demonstrated zero character. So how was he ever going to deal with Russians, Iranians?
    , @casey
    I don't get why when a scheduled speech at a large-scale event is interrupted by others jumping on the stage and attempting to seize the platform, it is up to the speaker to deal with them?? What ever happened to security removing people?

    btw thanks for posting this, I was too lazy to bother watching it until now, and it is indeed shocking. The women on the right is really freaking out, unbelievable.
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  38. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The behavior by these 2 supposed black activists is typical, at least from what I have witnessed in Chicago. Yell and scream, like a little child until an adult gives in. I just want to let ‘BLM’ know that intelligent people don’t by this crap and know you were bought. I urge the ‘BLM’ movement to keep doing these types of things because it will only bite you in the butt and make your fake cause die out. Nobody gives a damn about Black lives until a Black life cares about it’s own. Just the same as rest of us Hispanics, Asians and Africans.

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  39. Bernie looked like he’d found out his wife is sleeping with black men…

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  40. @AKAHorace
    What is he saying when they drive him off the stage ? Why are they trying to silence him ?

    Would these blacks support Clinton ?

    A bit more context for foreigners please Steve.

    A bit more context for foreigners please Steve

    The ultimate foreigner, Mr Soros, essentially is the context.

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  41. @e
    Bernie showed grace? Seriously?

    He comes off to me as a cuckolded wimp, just like most prog males. He just moved over and let them take over. Disgraceful. WW2 generation of men rolling over in their graves.

    WW2 generation of men rolling over in their graves.

    The “generation” responsible for LBJ’s record landslide brought that roll upon themselves. They can enjoy it.

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  42. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    The woman demanding the four and a half minute moment of silence for Mike Brown in the second video reminds me of Sasha Baron Cohen as Borat demanding everyone at the minor league baseball park stand for the Kazakstan National Anthem, with one difference: Baron Cohen starts out ingratiating, and then shifts to being obnoxious; these women go from obnoxious to more obnoxious. Satire can’t keep up.

    https://youtu.be/ZLa65o1nok8

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    I also remembered that scene from Borat.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcNgJOWo8hs

    50 seconds into the video.
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  43. Hacienda says:

    Lot of local flavor in those videos. I’d have a Starbucks and enjoy what that black girl had to get off her shoulders. Just do it. Portland is weird. Seattle’s emerald. And Sacagawea got squat for interpreting for Lewis and Clark.

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    Sacagawea got squat for interpreting for Lewis and Clark.
     
    She got reunited with her brother, and with the tribe from whom she was stolen as a child and sold as a slave. She got to travel across the unspoiled wilderness of America. Plus, I'm pretty sure her husband was payed for their troubles.
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  44. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Dahlia
    https://www.facebook.com/BLMSeattle/posts/716844418437393

    They hate white liberals far more than they hate any white Southern conservative. But that's not news...

    Bernie Sanders showed immense grace.

    lol, “showed immense grace…” Not to the other people in the crowd who showed up to hear him speak. I think the word you were looking for was “cowardice”

    Granted, a paid-up lib of Bern’s generation doesn’t exactly know how to start throwing elbows with actual live black people in the room — that’s just courting psychological meltdown

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  45. @Anonymous
    I don't know how well he's doing now, but Sanders had pretty decent polling and some momentum recently. He was drawing large crowds and grassroots support. There's not that much excitement for Hillary. She's the Dem establishment candidate right now,. There's lots of Hillary and Clinton fatigue.

    There’s not that much excitement for Hillary. She’s the Dem establishment candidate right now,. There’s lots of Hillary and Clinton fatigue.

    The Clintons have always seen consent as a speed bump, and its absence as a pothole to be deftly skirted.

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  46. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Hepp
    The girl on the right would be gorgeous if she dropped about 30 pounds. Nice eye candy, hard to hate her when you look like that.

    Yeah, the most shrill one? She looks half asian. Actually, several of those blacks look biracial.

    Same deal several days ago at the Black Lives Matter event at Cleavland State University, where the leadership asked all white people (i.e. a single reporter) to leave the circle. The leaders were predominantly light skinned and there were a bunch of obviously biracial little kids milling about.

    http://www.cleveland.com/naymik/index.ssf/2015/07/police_and_movement_for_black.html

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    She doesn't look Asian to me at all.

    All black movements are led by biracial people, because they've got the highest IQs in the black community. Not that the black lives matter crowd is full of geniuses, but what they do takes some organizational skill.
    , @Twinkie

    Yeah, the most shrill one? She looks half asian. Actually, several of those blacks look biracial.
     
    She looks part "Native American" or Polynesian. Didn't the one of the left rail about Seattle being "occupied Native American" land or something?
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  47. cipher says:

    Those two thugettes are the AAA-rated yield on a 50-year multi-trillion dollar investment in social welfare.

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  48. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Bernie’s coming to LA on Monday, Steve. Are you going to go see him? Will Wheaton, the SJW best known for playing Wesley Crusher on Star Trek: The Next Generation, is excited about it –

    Bernie Sanders is having a rally at the Sports Arena on Monday, Los Angeles! Let’s #FeelTheBern! https://t.co/6BzX3iWGj4— Wil Wheaton (@wilw) August 6, 2015

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    alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die

    ... just a bit of Usenet nostalgia. For all I know, Will Wheaton may be the greatest human being since sliced bread.

    "#FeelTheBern" is kind of clever, too.
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  49. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    The pure moronic thrust of these speech-jackers got me thinking on the subtlety of political theater. It’s quite easy to screw up, especially when you’re not adept to begin with. Often when it takes the totally witless “waaaah waaahh look at me” form it’s associated with hormonal narcissistic white college kids. But as with Black Brunch there’s a blundering bull-in-a-china-shop idiocy to the middle-aged(?) black woman seizing the stage and spouting slogans. What happens next time? The cycle of diminishing returns sets in rather quickly.

    Then again I was surprised how seriously the MSM took Occupy Wall Street, and those folks were obviously flying blind. But without the implied forthcoming media sympathy (whether from black Twitter or white NY Times) wouldn’t these Seattle clown women be received as more annoying than intimidating? It’s callous for Soros et al. to opportunistically encourage such infantile acting-out as upright & fitting since its first obvious effect is to piss off the people still on the fence about whether blacks suffer so much more injustice than everyone else. The context shifts on the protester rapidly. I dunno why but it reminds me of the brainstorm of Siohvaugn Funches-Wade, who started a divorce settlement protest on the street in Chicago two years ago– accomplishing nothing:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLQ18EkyKTo

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  50. AKAHorace says:

    Listen to the audience reaction. That is the important information from this event.

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  51. J1234 says:

    They’re acting like a bunch of Eva “Browns.”

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  52. Maj. Kong says:
    @galileounderground
    The whites in the crowd are thinking "I should have moved to Portland..."

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  53. Slumlord says:

    Heh,

    Bernie Sandars gets to live out the consequences of his ideology. What’s the problem? If he thought about his ideology a bit more maybe he wouldn’t of gotten into the predicament.

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    The "problem" is that a Democratic anti-immigration (jobs) Bernie opposite a Republican anti-immigration (crime) Trump, is a huge threat to the establishment and oligarch narrative of the Dems and the Pubs.

    As long as they both campaign against open borders, as long as there is bipartisan support for closing the borders, the classic open borders narrative cannot get any traction. How can closed borders a la Trump be "racist" (the Narrative) when a hard-core lefty like Bernie is in favor of them?

    Further, the growing support for both men shows that the American people, left and right, are against open borders.

    The longer they both run, the longer they post great poll numbers, the more Americans (both left and right) are going to start thinking. And THAT is dangerous. What will happen when the other candidates moderate their open borders positions to skim off some of the Trump and Bernie vote? It will be even harder for the establishment and oligarchs to suppress the open immigration issue. The longer they BOTH campaign, the better it is for Americans, black and white.
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  54. eah says:

    They ought to be angry at black males.

    And lose a few pounds.

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  55. You really have to listen to the second video starting at about 2:15 to get a sense of the crowd dynamic here.

    At about this time, the black woman speaker says the wants to honor the fact that she had to fight to get through a bunch of “screaming white faces” to say that her life matters.

    At this, people in the audience go into an outrage. A man starts yelling for her to “Get off! Get off!” and “How dare you! How dare you!” A woman in the audience (perhaps more than one) says, indignantly, “She called me racist! She said I’m a racist!”

    It’s pretty amazing. No doubt these are people who imagine themselves the most anti-racist whites in existence, and have called everybody a hair to the right of themselves racists, and just can’t stomach the idea that someone would presume to say that THEY are racists. It just doesn’t matter if it’s the very group of blacks, and black cause, that yesterday they would have supported; they have been wounded mortally by the accusation, right in the heart of their moral superiority, and must lash out.

    It’s quite a sight to behold. Frankenstein faces his monster.

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    They won't learn anything. Not a thing.
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  56. bomag says:
    @oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
    Bernie Sanders marched with MLK, has been arrested for protesting segregation and was personally present for the "I Have a Dream" speech. This has Soros written all over it

    Bernie Sanders marched with MLK…

    And all those efforts bought him (and us) nothing.

    At least Sisyphus gets some exercise.

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  57. I have to say it looked like Bernie wanted to say something and was pissed, but when the “event organizer” caved in he pretty much figured it was a lost cause, and nothing good could happen from him standing up to them. They were pretty much hysterical, and if the organizer guy had put his foot down right away he might have stopped it, but he withered under their hysteria like whitey progressive lefties always do. Wow, they disrupted someone’s speech, accused the people who were speaking of silencing them by acquiescing to their disruption and then they berated the audience for interrupting them and then demanded everyone be silent, contradict much?

    I have to say this looks like a pure Soros play, even though Hilary is the far more establishment Democrat than Sanders, they never seem to show up to disrupt her. Look at the landscape; Hilary’s negatives are rising, Sanders is gaining, Biden is waiting the wings and entertaining Democrat donors in D.C., I guess Georgy boy thought it was time to extinguish Sanders momentum and see if Hilary can become the first non incumbent incumbent nominee in American history. He must be working behind the scenes to stop Biden from entering the breach caused by Hilary’s negative poll numbers. But remember everyone the real story is Donald Trump got angry at some fake blonde chick that 90 percent of the liberals in the country wouldn’t help she was on fire prior to Thursday night, now they are outraged, outraged I tell you that he had the temerity to not meekly apologize when called anti-woman by a woman reporter, the arrogance!

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  58. Bill P says:

    Funny. I’m in Seattle at the moment. Probably just rolled in about when this was happening — I was wondering why downtown was such a mess. I remember going to a Clinton rally at Westlake back in ’92. It was huge. Nobody would have dreamed of disrupting the event. The consequences would have been severe.

    The thing is, the guys who would physically remove these mouthy nobodies from the stage have all left Seattle, or they won’t interfere. Working class white guys just won’t get involved — especially on Democrats’ behalf. That makes a huge difference. What Sanders et al are left with is minorities and women watching their back with a bunch of skinny progressive white guys sort of limply applauding from the rear, which means minority women can behave this way with impunity.

    Right now you see it mainly in progressive strongholds like universities and Seattle. Wait until it becomes a national phenomenon — the rest of the world won’t take us seriously anymore and our “global superpower” status will blow away like dust in the wind.

    These billionaires really don’t have a clue. They honestly think their status derives from their personal superiority, and don’t give much weight to the enormous geopolitical advantage they’ve lived under for so long. Hothouse flowers. Shortsighted egotists, really. This oligarchic system will be the end of American exceptionalism.

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    I remember going to a Clinton rally at Westlake back in ’92. It was huge. Nobody would have dreamed of disrupting the event. The consequences would have been severe.

    The thing is, the guys who would physically remove these mouthy nobodies from the stage have all left Seattle, or they won’t interfere. Working class white guys just won’t get involved — especially on Democrats’ behalf. That makes a huge difference. What Sanders et al are left with is minorities and women watching their back with a bunch of skinny progressive white guys sort of limply applauding from the rear, which means minority women can behave this way with impunity.
     
    Brilliant and hilarious.
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Back when the Democrats actually represented the interests of working class people (pre-Clinton), there were a lot of tough union hardhat types. Such men don't really identify much with the left-wing of the Democratic party. They're disaffected by the Democratic worship of corporatists and Wall Streeters. They're also turned off by all the straight white American male bashing.

    These days, a lot of the hardhats have left politics or vote Republican. The masculine hardhat Democrats are either gone or aging remnants from the pre-1990s era. There are plenty who might vote Democratic, but they tend to stay away from these types of events.

    Looking at the Sanders crowd on various new sites, I noticed how effeminate the progressive men appear. There's a definite testosterone deficiency in the modern day Democratic party, except among blacks. These days, the Democratic base are an interesting coalition of feminists, immigrants, effete white guys, gays, and blacks.

    In places like Seattle, the cops tend to be particularly harsh and brutal. They keep the order. The progressive white men hide behind them. It's easy being a progressive when you got a 200-lb well-armed muscle head watching your back. Seattle pays its cops very well and attracts lots of warrior-cop types.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL2XI_-T1yQ

    Progressive men in places like NYC and Seattle outsource their masculinity to raging bull (mostly white) cops. The model works well, allowing the progressives to maintain their wimpiness and stay safe.
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  59. Trumped says:

    It is always hilarious to see leftists face the reality of their own ideology. It is also interesting to see what “real” blacks look and act like – typically obese for the females, very loud, low IQ, racist, and entitled.

    These types are unfortunately far more common in America than the Obamas and Carsons of the world.

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  60. anon says: • Disclaimer

    Shut this bitch down!

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    No, no, no, let the Negroes blow up the cities again.

    Dems cannot survive, let alone succeed, with sinking cities.

    Negroes are beginning to realize that all this homomania stuff is a way to keep them down.

    They beginning to sense that Starbucks 'progressivism' and stuff like Amnesty have nothing to offer to the Negroes.

    They are beginning to see the revival of cities being mostly a white affair.

    Let the BLM form into massive gangs and aks, 'can you dig it?'

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  61. Harold says:
    @Moderate Mom
    When the chick with the long silver braids started shrieking in the face of the guy that bore an uncanny resemblance to Alan Arkin, and waving her arms in his face, he should have shoved her ass off that stage. I would have.

    But you’re a woman. I’m with Hepp, I thought she looked kinda cute when she was trying to act bossy. I think I would have laughed and told her so.

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  62. Truth says:

    And a political speech being interrupted is unusual, why?

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    I know you're just trolling, but the answer to that is, because typically the interruptions last for a second or two, and then the guy goes on to give the rest of his speech.

    Also, the "Don't tase me bro!" thing really was pretty unusual, wasn't it? Though it wasn't even an interruption, really, since it happened during the "question and answer" portion.

    And I don't think anyone here would argue that Occupy Wall Streeters or immigration activists are mature, reasonable people either.

    , @Bill B.
    You can't tell the difference between storming the stage and heckling?
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  63. @Anonymous
    I wonder if or when we'll see the Republican equivalent, where protesters try to break up Republican rallies for being "cuckservatives" and not pro-white enough. A lot of the recent "black lives matter" stuff seems to have originated among blacks online through social media where there's immediate and constant feedback and reinforcement by like minded people, much like the "cuckservative" stuff.

    You might be a cuckservative if you compare the action on the right to these disruptions during Bernie Sander’s campaign events.

    First, as discussed in length on this blog, Black Live Matter is a campaign based on fraudulent assumptions that is backed at length by POTUS, the US AG, often the courts, universities, and much of the mainstream media. The later take great pains to inflate and often distort the instances where police have killed blacks in the course of arrests. The tactics employed by these activists are entirely based on threat, confrontation, humiliation, and dominance.

    Cuckservative is entirely occurring in social media and in blogs. It accepts the idea that politics is downstream from culture and it attempts to push the Overton Window to allow the discussion of what its proponents believe are verifiable truths. This Sailer blog is dedicated to those truths. The use of studies, graphs, data, works by experts is unparalleled among blogs. And it is one of many that attempt to arrive at conclusions using the same methods.

    Yet to discuss these truths, and mind you the holders of these opinions are not idiots, we are often shouted down by cowardly accusations of Racist, Sexist, Misogynist, Homophobe, and the particularly stupid Transphobe. We have no support in any mainstream media. And the office holders of the GOP refuse to even mention these items on the campaign trail. They and the Republican media, along with Republican NGOs and think tanks have stood by, cowardly and allowed the church, as well as great conservative institutions and private individuals to be destroyed. And they have been ineffective in both governance and any defense of conservatism in the United States, as well as Europe.

    So as the NKVD set up machine guns behind Russian troops during assaults in WWII, we too have set up behind those Republican party officials and media to remind them that we will no longer be quiet, no longer be bludgeoned not only by the left, but also by our own party into accepting positions that we feel are truly detrimental to liberty in this country, to the liveability of this country, effective governance of this country, to a tyranny based on lies.

    Sailer has often hinted that a broad base of readers come to his blog, including many writers and probably elected officials. These truths are here for consumption, yet those same writers, even when exposed to this discussion by an exceptional writer and a rather august, broad based, highy intelligent set of readers and commenters, ignore these issues, and shout down discussion with epithets that worked up until now.

    So we resort to more effective “meme”, a slur, delivered in an aggressive and confrontational manner, in the media, on social networks, and where years of discussion, where gigabytes of writing have failed, this tactic, coupled with the response given to by over 40% of the Republican base, a broad group that has been abandoned by the monied interest and the Republican political class, has done in a short time what prior methods failed to achieve.

    Make no mistake. For many of us, if our ideas are not adopted, we do not care if Clinton wins, and if she imposes a nightmare of Democratic policies for 8 years. For many of us, this country and the tyranny it imposes on the people that built it, its best citizens, means little to us in its current form. Better Clinton kill it so we may end it and start anew in another form based on true liberty, true justice, and true freedom for all.

    We do not care if “We make the black kids mad, or the fags, or the trannies, or feminists.” We will not quietly sit in our cuck chair in the corner any longer. If that is like Black Lives Matter then too damn bad.

    White Lives Matter More. At least to me.

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  64. Truth says:
    @Moderate Mom
    When the chick with the long silver braids started shrieking in the face of the guy that bore an uncanny resemblance to Alan Arkin, and waving her arms in his face, he should have shoved her ass off that stage. I would have.

    When the chick with the long silver braids started shrieking in the face of the guy that bore an uncanny resemblance to Alan Arkin, and waving her arms in his face, he should have shoved her ass off that stage. I would have

    Hey, an arrest for assault and battery certainly would give him street and badboy appeal!

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  65. Trumpenprole [AKA "Chuck Sheen"] says:
    @Hacienda
    Lot of local flavor in those videos. I'd have a Starbucks and enjoy what that black girl had to get off her shoulders. Just do it. Portland is weird. Seattle's emerald. And Sacagawea got squat for interpreting for Lewis and Clark.

    Sacagawea got squat for interpreting for Lewis and Clark.

    She got reunited with her brother, and with the tribe from whom she was stolen as a child and sold as a slave. She got to travel across the unspoiled wilderness of America. Plus, I’m pretty sure her husband was payed for their troubles.

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    "Sacagawea got squat..."

    And add to what Chuck listed, Wm Clark followed through on his promise to raise her two children if she passed away.
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  66. anonymous says: • Disclaimer
    @Truth
    And a political speech being interrupted is unusual, why?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBTHODw0WtY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-H69pcOg4U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCwyCj1D1OM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CY7-YNgztM

    I know you’re just trolling, but the answer to that is, because typically the interruptions last for a second or two, and then the guy goes on to give the rest of his speech.

    Also, the “Don’t tase me bro!” thing really was pretty unusual, wasn’t it? Though it wasn’t even an interruption, really, since it happened during the “question and answer” portion.

    And I don’t think anyone here would argue that Occupy Wall Streeters or immigration activists are mature, reasonable people either.

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  67. Trumpenprole [AKA "Chuck Sheen"] says:
    @candid_observer
    You really have to listen to the second video starting at about 2:15 to get a sense of the crowd dynamic here.

    At about this time, the black woman speaker says the wants to honor the fact that she had to fight to get through a bunch of "screaming white faces" to say that her life matters.

    At this, people in the audience go into an outrage. A man starts yelling for her to "Get off! Get off!" and "How dare you! How dare you!" A woman in the audience (perhaps more than one) says, indignantly, "She called me racist! She said I'm a racist!"

    It's pretty amazing. No doubt these are people who imagine themselves the most anti-racist whites in existence, and have called everybody a hair to the right of themselves racists, and just can't stomach the idea that someone would presume to say that THEY are racists. It just doesn't matter if it's the very group of blacks, and black cause, that yesterday they would have supported; they have been wounded mortally by the accusation, right in the heart of their moral superiority, and must lash out.

    It's quite a sight to behold. Frankenstein faces his monster.

    They won’t learn anything. Not a thing.

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  68. Maybe they just showed up because they thought he was related to Colonel Sanders …?

    (O.K., that was tasteless. Sorry.)

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  69. bernie done got culturally enriched

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  70. Hugh says:

    All presidential candidates should be put through the following two tests:

    1) see if they can face down a blond bimbo reporter

    2) see if they can deal with a couple of loudmouth hecklers.

    If a candidate can’t pass both tests without breaking a sweat, he has no hope against the Putins of this world.

    Sorry Bernie, but the Trump goes through to Round 2. You go home.

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  71. A close reading of Mein Kampf shows it to be about controlling the megaphone during meetings of the nascent National Socialist Party versus the disruption caused by Communists in attendance (references to Jews are sparse and not central to the book which was about his “struggle” to power). Hitler and his followers knew better than to give away the mike to their adversaries. Specially trained ex-soldiers were present whose job it was to remove those who tried to disrupt the speeches.

    This may be unpleasant for those here to read, but Hitler understood that control of the streets and microphone was central to power and he recognized that violent removal of those who sought to silence you was not only justifiable by necessary. He deplored the hand wringing appeasers who shirked from using force when dealing with a forceful opponent.

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    A close reading of Mein Kampf shows...
     
    ...ah........no.
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  72. km says:

    Surely this is set up and will be a recurring theme. It seems fairly obvious that these women were paid to disrupt Sanders’ speech. Race versus class: privilege race over substantial discussion of broader issues of class, economics, and middle-class decline. This tells you that Sanders is perceived very poorly by the Establishment, which controls both parties, neither of which wants undue focus on material realities in the US.

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  73. Hepp says:
    @anon
    Yeah, the most shrill one? She looks half asian. Actually, several of those blacks look biracial.

    Same deal several days ago at the Black Lives Matter event at Cleavland State University, where the leadership asked all white people (i.e. a single reporter) to leave the circle. The leaders were predominantly light skinned and there were a bunch of obviously biracial little kids milling about.

    http://www.cleveland.com/naymik/index.ssf/2015/07/police_and_movement_for_black.html

    She doesn’t look Asian to me at all.

    All black movements are led by biracial people, because they’ve got the highest IQs in the black community. Not that the black lives matter crowd is full of geniuses, but what they do takes some organizational skill.

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  74. Blair says:
    @oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
    Bernie Sanders marched with MLK, has been arrested for protesting segregation and was personally present for the "I Have a Dream" speech. This has Soros written all over it

    Bernie Sanders marched with MLK, has been arrested for protesting segregation and was personally present for the “I Have a Dream” speech. This has Soros written all over it

    And he is still despised and dismissed by blacks just for being white.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Farmer_and_the_Viper

    “The story concerns a farmer who finds a viper freezing in the snow. Taking pity on it, he picks it up and places it within his coat. The viper, revived by the warmth, bites his rescuer, who dies realizing that it is his own fault. The story is recorded in both Greek and Latin sources. In the former, the farmer dies reproaching himself “for pitying a scoundrel,” while in the version by Phaedrus the snake says that he bit his benefactor “to teach the lesson not to expect a reward from the wicked.’ ”

    Democrats are stupid to have ever indulged or stoked a group organized around and animated by outrage that a man who attacked a police officer was subsequently shot and died.

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    Prospero, who initially showed kindness to the primitive Caliban, changes tact after Caliban attempts to rape his daughter:

    Prospero:
    Thou most lying slave,
    Whom stripes may move, not kindness! I have used thee,
    Filth as thou art, with human care, and lodged thee
    In mine own cell, till thou didst seek to violate
    The honour of my child.

    Caliban:
    O ho, O ho! would't had been done!
    Thou didst prevent me; I had peopled else
    This isle with Calibans.

    The Tempest, William Shakespeare, Act 1 Scene 2
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  75. @Bill P
    Funny. I'm in Seattle at the moment. Probably just rolled in about when this was happening -- I was wondering why downtown was such a mess. I remember going to a Clinton rally at Westlake back in '92. It was huge. Nobody would have dreamed of disrupting the event. The consequences would have been severe.

    The thing is, the guys who would physically remove these mouthy nobodies from the stage have all left Seattle, or they won't interfere. Working class white guys just won't get involved -- especially on Democrats' behalf. That makes a huge difference. What Sanders et al are left with is minorities and women watching their back with a bunch of skinny progressive white guys sort of limply applauding from the rear, which means minority women can behave this way with impunity.

    Right now you see it mainly in progressive strongholds like universities and Seattle. Wait until it becomes a national phenomenon -- the rest of the world won't take us seriously anymore and our "global superpower" status will blow away like dust in the wind.

    These billionaires really don't have a clue. They honestly think their status derives from their personal superiority, and don't give much weight to the enormous geopolitical advantage they've lived under for so long. Hothouse flowers. Shortsighted egotists, really. This oligarchic system will be the end of American exceptionalism.

    I remember going to a Clinton rally at Westlake back in ’92. It was huge. Nobody would have dreamed of disrupting the event. The consequences would have been severe.

    The thing is, the guys who would physically remove these mouthy nobodies from the stage have all left Seattle, or they won’t interfere. Working class white guys just won’t get involved — especially on Democrats’ behalf. That makes a huge difference. What Sanders et al are left with is minorities and women watching their back with a bunch of skinny progressive white guys sort of limply applauding from the rear, which means minority women can behave this way with impunity.

    Brilliant and hilarious.

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  76. @Dave Pinsen
    The woman demanding the four and a half minute moment of silence for Mike Brown in the second video reminds me of Sasha Baron Cohen as Borat demanding everyone at the minor league baseball park stand for the Kazakstan National Anthem, with one difference: Baron Cohen starts out ingratiating, and then shifts to being obnoxious; these women go from obnoxious to more obnoxious. Satire can't keep up.

    https://youtu.be/ZLa65o1nok8

    I also remembered that scene from Borat.

    50 seconds into the video.

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  77. @Bill P
    Funny. I'm in Seattle at the moment. Probably just rolled in about when this was happening -- I was wondering why downtown was such a mess. I remember going to a Clinton rally at Westlake back in '92. It was huge. Nobody would have dreamed of disrupting the event. The consequences would have been severe.

    The thing is, the guys who would physically remove these mouthy nobodies from the stage have all left Seattle, or they won't interfere. Working class white guys just won't get involved -- especially on Democrats' behalf. That makes a huge difference. What Sanders et al are left with is minorities and women watching their back with a bunch of skinny progressive white guys sort of limply applauding from the rear, which means minority women can behave this way with impunity.

    Right now you see it mainly in progressive strongholds like universities and Seattle. Wait until it becomes a national phenomenon -- the rest of the world won't take us seriously anymore and our "global superpower" status will blow away like dust in the wind.

    These billionaires really don't have a clue. They honestly think their status derives from their personal superiority, and don't give much weight to the enormous geopolitical advantage they've lived under for so long. Hothouse flowers. Shortsighted egotists, really. This oligarchic system will be the end of American exceptionalism.

    Back when the Democrats actually represented the interests of working class people (pre-Clinton), there were a lot of tough union hardhat types. Such men don’t really identify much with the left-wing of the Democratic party. They’re disaffected by the Democratic worship of corporatists and Wall Streeters. They’re also turned off by all the straight white American male bashing.

    These days, a lot of the hardhats have left politics or vote Republican. The masculine hardhat Democrats are either gone or aging remnants from the pre-1990s era. There are plenty who might vote Democratic, but they tend to stay away from these types of events.

    Looking at the Sanders crowd on various new sites, I noticed how effeminate the progressive men appear. There’s a definite testosterone deficiency in the modern day Democratic party, except among blacks. These days, the Democratic base are an interesting coalition of feminists, immigrants, effete white guys, gays, and blacks.

    In places like Seattle, the cops tend to be particularly harsh and brutal. They keep the order. The progressive white men hide behind them. It’s easy being a progressive when you got a 200-lb well-armed muscle head watching your back. Seattle pays its cops very well and attracts lots of warrior-cop types.

    Progressive men in places like NYC and Seattle outsource their masculinity to raging bull (mostly white) cops. The model works well, allowing the progressives to maintain their wimpiness and stay safe.

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    These days, the Democratic base are an interesting coalition of feminists, immigrants, effete white guys, gays, and blacks.

    Actually, the Dems don't believe that coalition is their base. They believe it's a description of the USA.
    , @Bill P

    In places like Seattle, the cops tend to be particularly harsh and brutal. They keep the order. The progressive white men hide behind them. It’s easy being a progressive when you got a 200-lb well-armed muscle head watching your back. Seattle pays its cops very well and attracts lots of warrior-cop types.
     
    I've got a friend in the SPD. He says that after a DOJ investigation morale declined significantly. "Zero tolerance" (Seattle's version of stop and frisk) is no longer allowed, so criminals are bolder and crime inching up. SPD cops have no time for progressives, and I can imagine them having a good laugh about the incident at the Sanders rally.

    As for the "raging bull" type cops, that isn't the impression I get from my friend, or SPD cops in general. To me they seem more like good hound dogs: they really like to hunt bad guys. They live to chase down criminals, catch them, and put them in jail.

    If there's any personality type that I'd want to look for in potential policemen, it's just that love of the chase rather than a penchant for brutality. The two may overlap some, but they are not the same thing. For example, a good hunting dog is definitely not supposed to mangle its prey.
    , @Curle
    I know some Seattle cops. They are big, strong and smart. Everything is about psychological control. My sense is that paying more for the extra brains provides real ROI. None of the one's I've met are dummies. Not even close.
    , @Twinkie

    In places like Seattle, the cops tend to be particularly harsh and brutal. They keep the order. The progressive white men hide behind them. It’s easy being a progressive when you got a 200-lb well-armed muscle head watching your back. Seattle pays its cops very well and attracts lots of warrior-cop types.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL2XI_-T1yQ

    Progressive men in places like NYC and Seattle outsource their masculinity to raging bull (mostly white) cops. The model works well, allowing the progressives to maintain their wimpiness and stay safe.
     
    Ugh. You know nothing about the Seattle PD.

    Cops in Seattle are not "particularly harsh and brutal," and Seattle PD officers are not "raging bulls." It actually has a relatively high percentage of non-white officers ("balanced" according to one report). To the extent that Seattle is a popular city, it attracts qualified candidates into the PD, so the officers are usually college-educated, professional, athletic types. As with other popular police forces, it takes many former military officers (also helps that there is Fort Lewis nearby).

    I used to train regularly with the LEOs in the Seattle area, and they were mostly older, calm, mellow types with good heads on their shoulders, not burly raging bulls with itchy trigger fingers. Good police officers are those who have good judgments and are calm under pressure, not those "testosterone-poisoned."
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  78. @e
    Bernie showed grace? Seriously?

    He comes off to me as a cuckolded wimp, just like most prog males. He just moved over and let them take over. Disgraceful. WW2 generation of men rolling over in their graves.

    That’s why Democrats need to become the party of blue collar white men again. It’d be a huge testosterone injection and also good politics.

    Progressive guys are pleasant, but there’s no backbone. I wouldn’t want them to have my back.

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  79. @Glossy
    There's been some speculation that the Black Lives Matter people are paid by Soros to disrupt Bernie's campaign. Soros is backing Hillary. However, Bernie was never a serious threat to Hillary. Is this even necessary from the Hillary/Soros perspective?

    On the other hand if these women decided to do this all by themselves, why Bernie, off all the targets they could have chosen? And this is the second time that they've done this to him. I could have understood one time - Black lives (I'm not talking about the organization) are often chaotic and unpredictable. Random, illogical stuff happens in them with some frequency. But this is a pattern now.

    Soros is a Wall Street oligarch and currency manipulator. He has a long history of making money through insider trading, which is supported by his access to information channels. He’s a well known backer of Hillary.

    Soros is backing these #BlackLivesMatter protesters and sending them to disrupt Sanders events. Clinton probably promised to pass inside information to Soros once she gets into the White House. She’s already made $140 million since leaving the White House, much of it from Wall Street “speaking fees.” Hillary is a paid whore and that’s why Soros is backing her. He knows he’ll get a return from her.

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    Yes, and if one reads the Counterpunch article I linked to in a previous comment, you'll learn that Progressive Inc. was begun by the socially liberal oligarchs in response to Ralph Nader costing Al Gore the election.

    That was deeply psychologically devastating and they vowed it would never happen again.

    Put yourselves in Hillary's and her supporters' shoes: they were already robbed once when they just knew they had it in the the bag. So what to do? And what if you're an oligarch who believes Bernie wouldn't have a prayer in the General?

    Pull out all the stops.
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  80. Reagan vs. Bernie (note the ecstatic crowd reaction).

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  81. Big Bill says:
    @Slumlord
    Heh,

    Bernie Sandars gets to live out the consequences of his ideology. What's the problem? If he thought about his ideology a bit more maybe he wouldn't of gotten into the predicament.

    The “problem” is that a Democratic anti-immigration (jobs) Bernie opposite a Republican anti-immigration (crime) Trump, is a huge threat to the establishment and oligarch narrative of the Dems and the Pubs.

    As long as they both campaign against open borders, as long as there is bipartisan support for closing the borders, the classic open borders narrative cannot get any traction. How can closed borders a la Trump be “racist” (the Narrative) when a hard-core lefty like Bernie is in favor of them?

    Further, the growing support for both men shows that the American people, left and right, are against open borders.

    The longer they both run, the longer they post great poll numbers, the more Americans (both left and right) are going to start thinking. And THAT is dangerous. What will happen when the other candidates moderate their open borders positions to skim off some of the Trump and Bernie vote? It will be even harder for the establishment and oligarchs to suppress the open immigration issue. The longer they BOTH campaign, the better it is for Americans, black and white.

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  82. tbraton says:
    @e
    They remind me physically and verbally of Rosie O'Donnell. Wish Trump had been there to say, "Shut up you slobs---by the way. Lay off the Cheetos. You're pretty damned young to be so hefty."

    That would have done my heart good.

    “They remind me physically and verbally of Rosie O’Donnell. Wish Trump had been there to say, “Shut up you slobs—by the way. Lay off the Cheetos. You’re pretty damned young to be so hefty.”
    That would have done my heart good.”

    But that would have gotten Trump disinvited to speak by some “conservative” organization called “Red State” and criticized by some “conservatives” named Lindsey Graham and Carly Fiorina. He wouldn’t dare.

    This is why I have been saying on other iSteve threads that some audacious Republican should make hay out of this Black Lives Matter issue (Martin O’Malley stated it just right: “all lives matter”) and create havoc in the Democratic Party. You can tell from some of the loud voices in the background that at least some liberal Democrats are getting fed up with this nonsense. I believe the act is right out of Tom Wolfe 40+ years ago: “mau-mauing the flack catchers.”

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  83. tbraton says:
    @Anon
    Where is security?

    The best Lib vs Lib War!

    Hilarious.

    Blew Lib Gentrification BS out of the water.

    Seattle, 'the most progressive' city that is racially and economically segregated.

    LOL.

    Soros' Ferguson ploy spilling to OTHER cities.

    I hope it hits NY soon.

    No wonder urban Libs want to spread the diversity around.

    They don't want to deal with this shit.

    Black Debating Style turns into activism.

    “Black Debating Style turns into activism.”

    I was thinking the same thing.

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  84. Realist says:

    It matters not if you are left or right, if you are white you are nutless.

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  85. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    “Soros is backing these #BlackLivesMatter protesters and sending them to disrupt Sanders events.”

    Too far-fetched.

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    There were some great comments by anonymous antimarxist, ic1000 (I think that's the name) and others plus original research back around when the first sabotage occurred at Netroots (July 16-19). It was in a couple of comment threads, though Steve didn't dedicate any posts to it that I recall...

    My personal hunch is that the people harassing Bernie Sanders are a few, well-supported legitimate people, along with some paid mercenaries.
    The "Dreamers" operation by FWD (Zuckerberg, et al.) seems less sophisticated and are mostly rent-a-mob. But these are just hunches.

    Yes, I wish the media was more *curious*, honest, and forthcoming about BLM which would then help us understand why they continue to target Bernie against all rationality.
    As I mentioned in a previous thread, Dave Weigel reported from Netroots that a. one of the protestors said she needed her talking points and b. she had a handler. And then he dropped it, leaving it hanging out there.
    He then later reacted to angry Bernie supporters claiming Hillary was behind it by saying that was absolutely 100% untrue. It was primarily, or mostly, grassroots, he said, but I don't recall the exact weasel word nor did he flesh out for the readers the story behind the other, non-grassroots part. He didn't research nor report about what the 33 million from Soros means (which was uncovered by the Washington Times and was very much a part of the public record at the time of Netroots).

    Hate to be going hard on him as he has been the most forthcoming and done the most reporting on them since the Times expose!

    Here is a little insight from Snopes, slightly lefty and defensive, creatinging strawmen, but it's different from the others I've quoted in other threads and not bad at providing some background into Soros activities with regards to Ferguson:

    ...As well, the $33 million figure includes just about every organization with any connection to Ferguson-related activism that received monies from the OSF network, even if their involvement was tangential (such as publishing, writing, or promoting hashtags about the issue). And that such groups may have received part of their funding from the OSF network doesn't mean those funds were given for the specific purpose of organizing Ferguson-related protests, or with the knowledge or intent they would be used thusly.

     

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/sorosferguson.asp

    (Bernie supporters starting to lose their gullibility have been throwing out all sorts of situations where BLM have not shown up. I've got to find the one that noted there was a Ted Cruz event in a very Black, poverty-stricken town that was OPEN, LOLOLOOOLOLOL!!)
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  86. @JohnnyWalker123
    Back when the Democrats actually represented the interests of working class people (pre-Clinton), there were a lot of tough union hardhat types. Such men don't really identify much with the left-wing of the Democratic party. They're disaffected by the Democratic worship of corporatists and Wall Streeters. They're also turned off by all the straight white American male bashing.

    These days, a lot of the hardhats have left politics or vote Republican. The masculine hardhat Democrats are either gone or aging remnants from the pre-1990s era. There are plenty who might vote Democratic, but they tend to stay away from these types of events.

    Looking at the Sanders crowd on various new sites, I noticed how effeminate the progressive men appear. There's a definite testosterone deficiency in the modern day Democratic party, except among blacks. These days, the Democratic base are an interesting coalition of feminists, immigrants, effete white guys, gays, and blacks.

    In places like Seattle, the cops tend to be particularly harsh and brutal. They keep the order. The progressive white men hide behind them. It's easy being a progressive when you got a 200-lb well-armed muscle head watching your back. Seattle pays its cops very well and attracts lots of warrior-cop types.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL2XI_-T1yQ

    Progressive men in places like NYC and Seattle outsource their masculinity to raging bull (mostly white) cops. The model works well, allowing the progressives to maintain their wimpiness and stay safe.

    These days, the Democratic base are an interesting coalition of feminists, immigrants, effete white guys, gays, and blacks.

    Actually, the Dems don’t believe that coalition is their base. They believe it’s a description of the USA.

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  87. Dahlia says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Soros is a Wall Street oligarch and currency manipulator. He has a long history of making money through insider trading, which is supported by his access to information channels. He's a well known backer of Hillary.

    Soros is backing these #BlackLivesMatter protesters and sending them to disrupt Sanders events. Clinton probably promised to pass inside information to Soros once she gets into the White House. She's already made $140 million since leaving the White House, much of it from Wall Street "speaking fees." Hillary is a paid whore and that's why Soros is backing her. He knows he'll get a return from her.

    Yes, and if one reads the Counterpunch article I linked to in a previous comment, you’ll learn that Progressive Inc. was begun by the socially liberal oligarchs in response to Ralph Nader costing Al Gore the election.

    That was deeply psychologically devastating and they vowed it would never happen again.

    Put yourselves in Hillary’s and her supporters’ shoes: they were already robbed once when they just knew they had it in the the bag. So what to do? And what if you’re an oligarch who believes Bernie wouldn’t have a prayer in the General?

    Pull out all the stops.

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    The problem with Bernie (and Trump) is that they're not controllable. Oligarchs want a pawn who'll continue the "War on Terror" indefinitely, not regulate Wall Street, and obey the corporate/financial over class.

    Sanders is electable (as is Trump), but they might reflect the interests of the majority.

    That's just not permissible. Not in today's America.

    The #BlackLivesMatter agitators are the reserve army of Soros and his fellow Wall Street kleptocrats.
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  88. Rifleman says:

    As I’ve been saying, the Democrats are the Coalition of the Fringes.

    Say it all you want, it still is not true.

    You continue to claim the Democrats are the “black party”, not true now and wont be true EVER!

    The Democrats are the party of America’s core, get out of your house in LA and look around. The 1950s are long gone.

    The Republican fringe is holding on for now, but the demographic storm has already happened and the tsunami is in all the elementary schools and day care centers around America.

    These blm freaks aren’t even on the fringe of the black fringe. They are the non violent, loudmouth black version of Dylann Roof!

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  89. Kylie says:
    @Danindc
    Steve, how did you miss Speechless in Seattle??? That was a freakin lay up for you. You're slipping big time.

    Cancel my subscription

    Steve, how did you miss Speechless in Seattle??? That was a freakin lay up for you.

    Better still, “Bring in ‘da Noise, Bring in ‘da Funk” .

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  90. Kylie says:
    @Danindc
    Steve, how did you miss Speechless in Seattle??? That was a freakin lay up for you. You're slipping big time.

    Cancel my subscription

    Steve, how did you miss Speechless in Seattle??? That was a freakin lay up for you.

    Better still, “Bring in ‘da Noise, Bring in ‘da Funk” .

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  91. Dahlia says:
    @Anon
    "Soros is backing these #BlackLivesMatter protesters and sending them to disrupt Sanders events."

    Too far-fetched.

    There were some great comments by anonymous antimarxist, ic1000 (I think that’s the name) and others plus original research back around when the first sabotage occurred at Netroots (July 16-19). It was in a couple of comment threads, though Steve didn’t dedicate any posts to it that I recall…

    My personal hunch is that the people harassing Bernie Sanders are a few, well-supported legitimate people, along with some paid mercenaries.
    The “Dreamers” operation by FWD (Zuckerberg, et al.) seems less sophisticated and are mostly rent-a-mob. But these are just hunches.

    Yes, I wish the media was more *curious*, honest, and forthcoming about BLM which would then help us understand why they continue to target Bernie against all rationality.
    As I mentioned in a previous thread, Dave Weigel reported from Netroots that a. one of the protestors said she needed her talking points and b. she had a handler. And then he dropped it, leaving it hanging out there.
    He then later reacted to angry Bernie supporters claiming Hillary was behind it by saying that was absolutely 100% untrue. It was primarily, or mostly, grassroots, he said, but I don’t recall the exact weasel word nor did he flesh out for the readers the story behind the other, non-grassroots part. He didn’t research nor report about what the 33 million from Soros means (which was uncovered by the Washington Times and was very much a part of the public record at the time of Netroots).

    Hate to be going hard on him as he has been the most forthcoming and done the most reporting on them since the Times expose!

    Here is a little insight from Snopes, slightly lefty and defensive, creatinging strawmen, but it’s different from the others I’ve quoted in other threads and not bad at providing some background into Soros activities with regards to Ferguson:

    …As well, the $33 million figure includes just about every organization with any connection to Ferguson-related activism that received monies from the OSF network, even if their involvement was tangential (such as publishing, writing, or promoting hashtags about the issue). And that such groups may have received part of their funding from the OSF network doesn’t mean those funds were given for the specific purpose of organizing Ferguson-related protests, or with the knowledge or intent they would be used thusly.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/sorosferguson.asp

    (Bernie supporters starting to lose their gullibility have been throwing out all sorts of situations where BLM have not shown up. I’ve got to find the one that noted there was a Ted Cruz event in a very Black, poverty-stricken town that was OPEN, LOLOLOOOLOLOL!!)

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    Yes, I wish the media was more *curious*, honest, and forthcoming about BLM which would then help us understand why they continue to target Bernie against all rationality.

     

    Bernie is an leftist on economics issues, and he appears to really mean it.

    Big Business likes politicians who are leftist on social issues.

    Economics-oriented Leftism focuses on controlling the rich and powerful and helping the working class majority. That hurts the wallet of the rich and powerful.

    Social Leftism focuses on elevating the status of nonwhites and lowering the status of whites. That sort of leftism actually helps the rich and powerful because it helps them get more cheap labor and it helps them increase the diversity of the populace, which makes it harder for a majority bloc to control the gov't.


    So, most likely "black lives matter" is funded by the rich and powerful, and they target sanders because he threatens the rich and powerful.
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  92. @Blair

    Bernie Sanders marched with MLK, has been arrested for protesting segregation and was personally present for the “I Have a Dream” speech. This has Soros written all over it
     
    And he is still despised and dismissed by blacks just for being white.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Farmer_and_the_Viper

    "The story concerns a farmer who finds a viper freezing in the snow. Taking pity on it, he picks it up and places it within his coat. The viper, revived by the warmth, bites his rescuer, who dies realizing that it is his own fault. The story is recorded in both Greek and Latin sources. In the former, the farmer dies reproaching himself "for pitying a scoundrel," while in the version by Phaedrus the snake says that he bit his benefactor "to teach the lesson not to expect a reward from the wicked.' "

    Democrats are stupid to have ever indulged or stoked a group organized around and animated by outrage that a man who attacked a police officer was subsequently shot and died.

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    In the versions I have heard, a smart fellow comes along and tricks the wolf to get back into the bag, where upon the wolf is killed.

    I like that story better.

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  93. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @John Derbyshire

    In the versions I have heard, a smart fellow comes along and tricks the wolf to get back into the bag, where upon the wolf is killed.

    I like that story better.

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  94. e says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    That's why Democrats need to become the party of blue collar white men again. It'd be a huge testosterone injection and also good politics.

    Progressive guys are pleasant, but there's no backbone. I wouldn't want them to have my back.

    Johnny, the Dem Party recall was wiped out a looong time ago. It doesn’t exist. It’s not coming back.

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  95. In the second video, at about 2:32, she calls the audience “screaming white racists”.

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    The part I like best is where the MC tells them to be reasonable, and then they go completely ballistic jumping up and down like toddlers screaming "We won't be reasonable! We won't be reasonable!" and then they stop and the one on the right starts pushing and waving her arms at the MC demanding "Give her the microphone! Give her the microphone!" and when he tells her to cool it, she screams, "Don't tell me what to do!" I mean it's just absolutely insane.
    , @anon
    She also starts crying then too. And then all of a sudden stops crying. Working the crowd like a three year old works mom and dad. Well done.
    , @candid_observer
    I had originally interpreted what she said as "screaming white faces", but I think your interpretation is more likely correct. It also explains better the immediate reaction from the audience.
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  96. SPMoore8 says:
    @International Jew
    In the second video, at about 2:32, she calls the audience "screaming white racists".

    The part I like best is where the MC tells them to be reasonable, and then they go completely ballistic jumping up and down like toddlers screaming “We won’t be reasonable! We won’t be reasonable!” and then they stop and the one on the right starts pushing and waving her arms at the MC demanding “Give her the microphone! Give her the microphone!” and when he tells her to cool it, she screams, “Don’t tell me what to do!” I mean it’s just absolutely insane.

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  97. @Dahlia
    There were some great comments by anonymous antimarxist, ic1000 (I think that's the name) and others plus original research back around when the first sabotage occurred at Netroots (July 16-19). It was in a couple of comment threads, though Steve didn't dedicate any posts to it that I recall...

    My personal hunch is that the people harassing Bernie Sanders are a few, well-supported legitimate people, along with some paid mercenaries.
    The "Dreamers" operation by FWD (Zuckerberg, et al.) seems less sophisticated and are mostly rent-a-mob. But these are just hunches.

    Yes, I wish the media was more *curious*, honest, and forthcoming about BLM which would then help us understand why they continue to target Bernie against all rationality.
    As I mentioned in a previous thread, Dave Weigel reported from Netroots that a. one of the protestors said she needed her talking points and b. she had a handler. And then he dropped it, leaving it hanging out there.
    He then later reacted to angry Bernie supporters claiming Hillary was behind it by saying that was absolutely 100% untrue. It was primarily, or mostly, grassroots, he said, but I don't recall the exact weasel word nor did he flesh out for the readers the story behind the other, non-grassroots part. He didn't research nor report about what the 33 million from Soros means (which was uncovered by the Washington Times and was very much a part of the public record at the time of Netroots).

    Hate to be going hard on him as he has been the most forthcoming and done the most reporting on them since the Times expose!

    Here is a little insight from Snopes, slightly lefty and defensive, creatinging strawmen, but it's different from the others I've quoted in other threads and not bad at providing some background into Soros activities with regards to Ferguson:

    ...As well, the $33 million figure includes just about every organization with any connection to Ferguson-related activism that received monies from the OSF network, even if their involvement was tangential (such as publishing, writing, or promoting hashtags about the issue). And that such groups may have received part of their funding from the OSF network doesn't mean those funds were given for the specific purpose of organizing Ferguson-related protests, or with the knowledge or intent they would be used thusly.

     

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/sorosferguson.asp

    (Bernie supporters starting to lose their gullibility have been throwing out all sorts of situations where BLM have not shown up. I've got to find the one that noted there was a Ted Cruz event in a very Black, poverty-stricken town that was OPEN, LOLOLOOOLOLOL!!)

    Yes, I wish the media was more *curious*, honest, and forthcoming about BLM which would then help us understand why they continue to target Bernie against all rationality.

    Bernie is an leftist on economics issues, and he appears to really mean it.

    Big Business likes politicians who are leftist on social issues.

    Economics-oriented Leftism focuses on controlling the rich and powerful and helping the working class majority. That hurts the wallet of the rich and powerful.

    Social Leftism focuses on elevating the status of nonwhites and lowering the status of whites. That sort of leftism actually helps the rich and powerful because it helps them get more cheap labor and it helps them increase the diversity of the populace, which makes it harder for a majority bloc to control the gov’t.

    So, most likely “black lives matter” is funded by the rich and powerful, and they target sanders because he threatens the rich and powerful.

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  98. Considering George Soros is behind this, how does this figure into ethnic genetic interests, considering both Soros and Sanders are Jews?

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  99. SPMoore8 says:

    Well, it looks like those two gals were actually Trump supporters, not Hillary supporters.

    It’s good that the Donald’s core supporters are coming out of the woodwork:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=127&v=DP6S3KE2DaI

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    Those ladies have been at it for a few weeks now. Big hits on Youtube. First one was funny--old now. Everyone can be a star for a day these days.
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  100. Dahlia says:

    That Cruz comment found and it’s worse than I remember… Atlanta!!!!!! That’s like the Nice Black capital of America!!!! Cruz isn’t small potatoes!!!! If this didn’t have the makings for a genuine, passionate sabotage, nothing does.

    Zaid Jilani on twitter shortly after the crash went down:

    retweets:
    Ted Cruz was in ATL [Atlanta] today but #BernieinSeattle got jumped for bs.

    responds:
    “The Cruz event was totally open and in a town 1/3 black and 20% under poverty line. Perfect environ for protest but not one protester”
    —————-

    Meanwhile BLM apologists, including the tweeter above after she composed herself, are pushing back, doubling down on insulting everyone’s intellence.

    Bernie is just more accessible is the excuse de jure now. (but what about Webb, O’Malley, and the 17 Republican candidate? Cruz in Atlanta!) Before he was just an eff up on civil rights and marching with MLK didn’t mean anything…

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  101. e says:
    @SPMoore8
    Well, it looks like those two gals were actually Trump supporters, not Hillary supporters.

    It's good that the Donald's core supporters are coming out of the woodwork:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=127&v=DP6S3KE2DaI

    Those ladies have been at it for a few weeks now. Big hits on Youtube. First one was funny–old now. Everyone can be a star for a day these days.

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  102. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @International Jew
    In the second video, at about 2:32, she calls the audience "screaming white racists".

    She also starts crying then too. And then all of a sudden stops crying. Working the crowd like a three year old works mom and dad. Well done.

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  103. Bill P says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Back when the Democrats actually represented the interests of working class people (pre-Clinton), there were a lot of tough union hardhat types. Such men don't really identify much with the left-wing of the Democratic party. They're disaffected by the Democratic worship of corporatists and Wall Streeters. They're also turned off by all the straight white American male bashing.

    These days, a lot of the hardhats have left politics or vote Republican. The masculine hardhat Democrats are either gone or aging remnants from the pre-1990s era. There are plenty who might vote Democratic, but they tend to stay away from these types of events.

    Looking at the Sanders crowd on various new sites, I noticed how effeminate the progressive men appear. There's a definite testosterone deficiency in the modern day Democratic party, except among blacks. These days, the Democratic base are an interesting coalition of feminists, immigrants, effete white guys, gays, and blacks.

    In places like Seattle, the cops tend to be particularly harsh and brutal. They keep the order. The progressive white men hide behind them. It's easy being a progressive when you got a 200-lb well-armed muscle head watching your back. Seattle pays its cops very well and attracts lots of warrior-cop types.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL2XI_-T1yQ

    Progressive men in places like NYC and Seattle outsource their masculinity to raging bull (mostly white) cops. The model works well, allowing the progressives to maintain their wimpiness and stay safe.

    In places like Seattle, the cops tend to be particularly harsh and brutal. They keep the order. The progressive white men hide behind them. It’s easy being a progressive when you got a 200-lb well-armed muscle head watching your back. Seattle pays its cops very well and attracts lots of warrior-cop types.

    I’ve got a friend in the SPD. He says that after a DOJ investigation morale declined significantly. “Zero tolerance” (Seattle’s version of stop and frisk) is no longer allowed, so criminals are bolder and crime inching up. SPD cops have no time for progressives, and I can imagine them having a good laugh about the incident at the Sanders rally.

    As for the “raging bull” type cops, that isn’t the impression I get from my friend, or SPD cops in general. To me they seem more like good hound dogs: they really like to hunt bad guys. They live to chase down criminals, catch them, and put them in jail.

    If there’s any personality type that I’d want to look for in potential policemen, it’s just that love of the chase rather than a penchant for brutality. The two may overlap some, but they are not the same thing. For example, a good hunting dog is definitely not supposed to mangle its prey.

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    Seattle is one of those cities that SWPLs, businessmen, and professionals value too much to allow it to degenerate. Just like NYPD gets away with a lot, SPD seems to have more leeway than you'd see given to the typical department. Being a progressive is a lot easier when you have vigilant muscleheads roaming your streets at all hours of the day and night.

    I think there are definitely some raging bull types in the SPD, but hound dog sounds like a good description for the bulk of the cops. My point is that the SPD seems to have a lot of very tough looking men who you don't want to mess with. Same is true for some of the wealthy eastside suburbs. NYPD is another tough department, but affirmative action is lowering the quality of that workforce quickly. Seattle is lucky to still graduate mostly white police cadet classes.

    Gentrification is pushing out a lot of African-Americans, while Asians, Hispanics, SWPL whites, and East African blacks come in. With the new high minimum wage in Seattle, it seems like the city will experience even more gentrification in the future.

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  104. SPMoore8 says:

    I just hope that, whoever gets the Democratic nomination, Kanye West interrupts their acceptance speech ……

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    Kanye West wouldn't do that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUzLpO1kxI
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  105. schmenz says:

    Arrogant little twits, aren’t those girls? But, I suppose, flush with Soros money they can afford to be.

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  106. @International Jew
    In the second video, at about 2:32, she calls the audience "screaming white racists".

    I had originally interpreted what she said as “screaming white faces”, but I think your interpretation is more likely correct. It also explains better the immediate reaction from the audience.

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  107. Rifleman says:
    @Threecranes
    A close reading of Mein Kampf shows it to be about controlling the megaphone during meetings of the nascent National Socialist Party versus the disruption caused by Communists in attendance (references to Jews are sparse and not central to the book which was about his "struggle" to power). Hitler and his followers knew better than to give away the mike to their adversaries. Specially trained ex-soldiers were present whose job it was to remove those who tried to disrupt the speeches.

    This may be unpleasant for those here to read, but Hitler understood that control of the streets and microphone was central to power and he recognized that violent removal of those who sought to silence you was not only justifiable by necessary. He deplored the hand wringing appeasers who shirked from using force when dealing with a forceful opponent.

    A close reading of Mein Kampf shows…

    …ah……..no.

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  108. @Dahlia
    Yes, and if one reads the Counterpunch article I linked to in a previous comment, you'll learn that Progressive Inc. was begun by the socially liberal oligarchs in response to Ralph Nader costing Al Gore the election.

    That was deeply psychologically devastating and they vowed it would never happen again.

    Put yourselves in Hillary's and her supporters' shoes: they were already robbed once when they just knew they had it in the the bag. So what to do? And what if you're an oligarch who believes Bernie wouldn't have a prayer in the General?

    Pull out all the stops.

    The problem with Bernie (and Trump) is that they’re not controllable. Oligarchs want a pawn who’ll continue the “War on Terror” indefinitely, not regulate Wall Street, and obey the corporate/financial over class.

    Sanders is electable (as is Trump), but they might reflect the interests of the majority.

    That’s just not permissible. Not in today’s America.

    The #BlackLivesMatter agitators are the reserve army of Soros and his fellow Wall Street kleptocrats.

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  109. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @anon
    Shut this bitch down!

    No, no, no, let the Negroes blow up the cities again.

    Dems cannot survive, let alone succeed, with sinking cities.

    Negroes are beginning to realize that all this homomania stuff is a way to keep them down.

    They beginning to sense that Starbucks ‘progressivism’ and stuff like Amnesty have nothing to offer to the Negroes.

    They are beginning to see the revival of cities being mostly a white affair.

    Let the BLM form into massive gangs and aks, ‘can you dig it?’

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  110. @Bill P

    In places like Seattle, the cops tend to be particularly harsh and brutal. They keep the order. The progressive white men hide behind them. It’s easy being a progressive when you got a 200-lb well-armed muscle head watching your back. Seattle pays its cops very well and attracts lots of warrior-cop types.
     
    I've got a friend in the SPD. He says that after a DOJ investigation morale declined significantly. "Zero tolerance" (Seattle's version of stop and frisk) is no longer allowed, so criminals are bolder and crime inching up. SPD cops have no time for progressives, and I can imagine them having a good laugh about the incident at the Sanders rally.

    As for the "raging bull" type cops, that isn't the impression I get from my friend, or SPD cops in general. To me they seem more like good hound dogs: they really like to hunt bad guys. They live to chase down criminals, catch them, and put them in jail.

    If there's any personality type that I'd want to look for in potential policemen, it's just that love of the chase rather than a penchant for brutality. The two may overlap some, but they are not the same thing. For example, a good hunting dog is definitely not supposed to mangle its prey.

    Seattle is one of those cities that SWPLs, businessmen, and professionals value too much to allow it to degenerate. Just like NYPD gets away with a lot, SPD seems to have more leeway than you’d see given to the typical department. Being a progressive is a lot easier when you have vigilant muscleheads roaming your streets at all hours of the day and night.

    I think there are definitely some raging bull types in the SPD, but hound dog sounds like a good description for the bulk of the cops. My point is that the SPD seems to have a lot of very tough looking men who you don’t want to mess with. Same is true for some of the wealthy eastside suburbs. NYPD is another tough department, but affirmative action is lowering the quality of that workforce quickly. Seattle is lucky to still graduate mostly white police cadet classes.

    Gentrification is pushing out a lot of African-Americans, while Asians, Hispanics, SWPL whites, and East African blacks come in. With the new high minimum wage in Seattle, it seems like the city will experience even more gentrification in the future.

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    With the new high minimum wage in Seattle, it seems like the city will experience even more gentrification in the future.
     
    Insulation from effects makes the holding of destructive positions much easier.
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  111. @SPMoore8
    I just hope that, whoever gets the Democratic nomination, Kanye West interrupts their acceptance speech ......

    Kanye West wouldn’t do that.

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  112. Dahlia says:

    Final:

    An ally or member of the chapter of BLM from where the activists came released a corresponding twitter hash tag, #bowdownbernie

    Such sweet people!

    Boutiny L. Farnsworth tweeted this and a simple link to the press release from BLM Seattle (before or after the ambush, I’m not sure). I missed that they tried to get Sanders to go back to the mic to be “held accountable”.

    May be Steve is right and these are megalomaniacs, hating on white progressives whom they despise above everyone else. Whatever is going on, the MSM has not been straight with the American people about this movement. We know at Ferguson it was astroturf as “protestors” came out complaining about not being paid, lol!

    But per Bernie, Thugs from Hell or Astroturf?

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  113. After watching this theater of the absurd my advice to any political campaign would be to use a cordless mic and just shut off the offending mouths. Better yet, use some type of synthesizer to garble their voices so it would come out as farm animal noises. “black lives … baaa baaa.

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    I wondered the same thing. How hard would it be to mime the international "cut it" sign and just shut the volume down?
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  114. manton says:

    This reminds me of something I wrote years ago for a now-defunct blog. It was called “Berkelefication” and it was about the mind of the modern protester. Basically, it’s Mario Savio’s “bodies on the gears” speech as a perpetual motion machine. Nothing shall be allowed to get done or take place until my personal grievance is addressed to my personal satisfaction and until then, the highest form of justice is when I prevent you from doing or saying anything.

    It’s one thing when this ideology is confined to nutty places like Berkeley, but when it starts to take over the world, we have a problem.

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  115. Svigor says:

    And a political speech being interrupted is unusual, why?

    Not really sure murder is remarkable for being unusual. At least, that’s not the big draw. Guinness book is full of unusual stuff nobody gives a shit about.

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  116. Bill B. says:
    @e
    Bernie showed grace? Seriously?

    He comes off to me as a cuckolded wimp, just like most prog males. He just moved over and let them take over. Disgraceful. WW2 generation of men rolling over in their graves.

    Do you remember “Don’t Tase Me Bro!”?

    No subsequent failure by John Kerry then surprised me.

    He could not deal with a garrulous, albeit polite, student. Made in fact no attempt to cut him off; demonstrated zero character. So how was he ever going to deal with Russians, Iranians?

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  117. Bill B. says:
    @Truth
    And a political speech being interrupted is unusual, why?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBTHODw0WtY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-H69pcOg4U

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCwyCj1D1OM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CY7-YNgztM

    You can’t tell the difference between storming the stage and heckling?

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    You can’t tell the difference between storming the stage and heckling?
     
    Sure I can: Balls.
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  118. anon says: • Disclaimer

    I know it’s really oligarchs and the media behind this but I’m so totally sick of them what with 3 (IIRC) white people murdered a day and they completely ignore that while bleating about what is happening to them.

    Even though I know it’s divide and rule – f**k them all.

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  119. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @AKAHorace
    What is he saying when they drive him off the stage ? Why are they trying to silence him ?

    Would these blacks support Clinton ?

    A bit more context for foreigners please Steve.

    He’d only just started speaking.

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  120. Truth says:
    @Bill B.
    You can't tell the difference between storming the stage and heckling?

    You can’t tell the difference between storming the stage and heckling?

    Sure I can: Balls.

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    Indeed. But the real difference is in effect: the ballsy girls managed to deny the right of assembly to a US senator and hundreds of supporters and the hecklers didn't even seem to be trying. You have more right to be proud than you know. Totally winning, dude.
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  121. IA says:
    @Dr. Doom
    Any chance this rent a mob is working for our old friend George Soros? I hear the nation wrecker who likes to destroy currencies for fun and profit is bankrolling the black intifada. Guess he has to do something between crashing economies. Funny he would sic his mob on old Bernie though. Is he ready for Hillary? Is Hillary ready for Hillary? Somebody better take Dorian Gray into the shop and get Dr. Frankenstein to do some work. She looks like she's falling apart like a cheap suit. I would have thought she would get a Madonna style bodysculpt to take ten or more years off of her. With the cigar store Indian sitting out the race those crazy Gynosupremacists aren't gonna be happy if a womyn doesn't ride the horse this time. Maybe Crazy Joe Biden can wear a dress? He crazy - he'd do it for the good of the party I'm sure. Get him some estrogen cornflakes.

    She looks like she’s falling apart like a cheap suit.

    Nice. Reminds me of Ross MacDonald’s “his blond, blue-eyed good looks were pealing around the edges like veneer.”

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    Sorry, that's "peeling."
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  122. SteveO says:
    @Dave Pinsen
    Bernie's coming to LA on Monday, Steve. Are you going to go see him? Will Wheaton, the SJW best known for playing Wesley Crusher on Star Trek: The Next Generation, is excited about it -

    Bernie Sanders is having a rally at the Sports Arena on Monday, Los Angeles! Let’s #FeelTheBern! https://t.co/6BzX3iWGj4— Wil Wheaton (@wilw) August 6, 2015
     

    alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die

    … just a bit of Usenet nostalgia. For all I know, Will Wheaton may be the greatest human being since sliced bread.

    “#FeelTheBern” is kind of clever, too.

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  123. IA says:
    @IA

    She looks like she’s falling apart like a cheap suit.
     
    Nice. Reminds me of Ross MacDonald's "his blond, blue-eyed good looks were pealing around the edges like veneer."

    Sorry, that’s “peeling.”

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  124. Stan says:

    What’s not to like as they say in New Yorkese. The revolution is devouring its parents as bernie sanders in seattle and bill kristol on obama are finding out. Which tribe sanctified the black cause?

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  125. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Someone needs to put those two in a cage with these two Trump supporters:

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  126. Curle says:
    @Blair

    Bernie Sanders marched with MLK, has been arrested for protesting segregation and was personally present for the “I Have a Dream” speech. This has Soros written all over it
     
    And he is still despised and dismissed by blacks just for being white.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Farmer_and_the_Viper

    "The story concerns a farmer who finds a viper freezing in the snow. Taking pity on it, he picks it up and places it within his coat. The viper, revived by the warmth, bites his rescuer, who dies realizing that it is his own fault. The story is recorded in both Greek and Latin sources. In the former, the farmer dies reproaching himself "for pitying a scoundrel," while in the version by Phaedrus the snake says that he bit his benefactor "to teach the lesson not to expect a reward from the wicked.' "

    Democrats are stupid to have ever indulged or stoked a group organized around and animated by outrage that a man who attacked a police officer was subsequently shot and died.

    Prospero, who initially showed kindness to the primitive Caliban, changes tact after Caliban attempts to rape his daughter:

    Prospero:
    Thou most lying slave,
    Whom stripes may move, not kindness! I have used thee,
    Filth as thou art, with human care, and lodged thee
    In mine own cell, till thou didst seek to violate
    The honour of my child.

    Caliban:
    O ho, O ho! would’t had been done!
    Thou didst prevent me; I had peopled else
    This isle with Calibans.

    The Tempest, William Shakespeare, Act 1 Scene 2

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  127. Curle says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Back when the Democrats actually represented the interests of working class people (pre-Clinton), there were a lot of tough union hardhat types. Such men don't really identify much with the left-wing of the Democratic party. They're disaffected by the Democratic worship of corporatists and Wall Streeters. They're also turned off by all the straight white American male bashing.

    These days, a lot of the hardhats have left politics or vote Republican. The masculine hardhat Democrats are either gone or aging remnants from the pre-1990s era. There are plenty who might vote Democratic, but they tend to stay away from these types of events.

    Looking at the Sanders crowd on various new sites, I noticed how effeminate the progressive men appear. There's a definite testosterone deficiency in the modern day Democratic party, except among blacks. These days, the Democratic base are an interesting coalition of feminists, immigrants, effete white guys, gays, and blacks.

    In places like Seattle, the cops tend to be particularly harsh and brutal. They keep the order. The progressive white men hide behind them. It's easy being a progressive when you got a 200-lb well-armed muscle head watching your back. Seattle pays its cops very well and attracts lots of warrior-cop types.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL2XI_-T1yQ

    Progressive men in places like NYC and Seattle outsource their masculinity to raging bull (mostly white) cops. The model works well, allowing the progressives to maintain their wimpiness and stay safe.

    I know some Seattle cops. They are big, strong and smart. Everything is about psychological control. My sense is that paying more for the extra brains provides real ROI. None of the one’s I’ve met are dummies. Not even close.

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  128. Corvinus says:

    Mark Minter…

    “Black Live Matter is a campaign based on fraudulent assumptions that is backed at length by POTUS, the US AG, often the courts, universities, and much of the mainstream media.”

    It’s a campaign engineered by fringe groups, with parts of their agenda that has ALWAYS been backed by the groups you’ve mentioned. It’s nothing new.

    “So we resort to more effective “meme”, a slur, delivered in an aggressive and confrontational manner…”

    Cuckservative, like #BlackLivesMatter, are running jokes. They are empty phrases simply designed to generate the frothing of the mouth by (D) and (R) race baiters.

    “we are often shouted down by cowardly accusations of Racist, Sexist, Misogynist, Homophobe, and the particularly stupid Transphobe.”

    I would agree that those terms have lost their meaning. They have been co-opted by the left and the right for their own designs. HOWEVER, when people make these statements**, then it’s no wonder they get “shouted down”.

    **”For many of us, this country and the tyranny it imposes on the people that built it, its best citizens, means little to us in its current form”

    What do you mean by “best citizens”? And what “tyranny”? Again, be specific.

    **”Better Clinton kill it so we may end it and start anew in another form based on true liberty, true justice, and true freedom for all.”

    What is “true” liberty? “true” justice? “true” freedom”? These terms are meaningless. Why don’t you spell it out. Be like Trump.

    **They and the Republican media, along with Republican NGOs and think tanks have stood by, cowardly and allowed the church, as well as great conservative institutions and private individuals to be destroyed.

    What church do you refer to? You do realize that there is separation of church and state, right? And what “great conservative institutions and private individuals? Destroyed? Ok, tell us.

    **White Lives Matter More. At least to me.

    No, AMERICAN PEOPLE matter more.

    “We have no support in any mainstream media.”

    Perhaps LITTLE support, but NO support? You overreached on that characterization.

    “The later take great pains to inflate and often distort the instances where police have killed blacks in the course of arrests. The tactics employed by these activists are entirely based on threat, confrontation, humiliation, and dominance.”

    I would venture to say those whom you politically support also engage in this conduct, too.

    Donald Trump has no filter. No need to. He’s rich. And even if he doesn’t become president, he will still have his wealth. Unlike politicians, who rely on handlers and polls, they have to be mindful of what they say and do, and run cover for statements they made months or years ago. There’s an election to be won, after all. But with Trump, conservatives and Republicans are jumping for joy, because he has the “audacity” to speak up. He talks tough in public. Says things that’s on his mind. But Trump is no “true” or “real” Conservative. And if he is elected to the Oval Office, will those supporters who are so gleeful for rocking the establishment to the core be so giddy? It’s a shit show.

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    Donald Trump has no filter. No need to. He’s rich. And even if he doesn’t become president, he will still have his wealth.
     
    Having money doesn't entitle you to lack grace and courtesy. If anything, one's wealth and privilege ought to make one a model for others. To think otherwise says a lot about contemporary America.
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  129. Corvinus says:

    “I wonder if or when we’ll see the Republican equivalent, where protesters try to break up Republican rallies for being “cuckservatives” and not pro-white enough. A lot of the recent “black lives matter” stuff seems to have originated among blacks online through social media where there’s immediate and constant feedback and reinforcement by like minded people, much like the “cuckservative” stuff.”

    You just won the thread.

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  130. Dennis Dale says: • Website
    @Truth

    You can’t tell the difference between storming the stage and heckling?
     
    Sure I can: Balls.

    Indeed. But the real difference is in effect: the ballsy girls managed to deny the right of assembly to a US senator and hundreds of supporters and the hecklers didn’t even seem to be trying. You have more right to be proud than you know. Totally winning, dude.

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    No, My friend, they did not deny anyone anything. Mr. Sanders could have quite easily said, "no you can not speak, please step off the stage or I will call security."

    It is quite obvious that the reasons they were so hostile is because the expected him to say "no."
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  131. Dahlia says:

    Okay, one more:

    Mainstream conservative press starting to pick up on Soros/BLM connection in regards to shutting down Bernie:

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/pj-gladnick/2015/08/09/msm-fails-note-sorosmoneymatters-only-targeting-hillary-opponents

    Imagine if the Koch brothers had financed a group that was regularly disrupting and shutting down events of candidates that they opposed. Does anybody doubt that the Koch connection would come up in the first paragraph, if not the first sentence, of most news stories about such disruptions? Yet somehow, complete silence from the MSM on the connection of George Soros to #BlackLivesMatter even though he is the providing most of the finances to that organization. Also mysterious is how the MSM also fails to note that Hillary Clinton, whom Soros supports, has not had her events disrupted by #SorosMoneyMatters (also known as #BlackLivesMatter).

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  132. Curle says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Seattle is one of those cities that SWPLs, businessmen, and professionals value too much to allow it to degenerate. Just like NYPD gets away with a lot, SPD seems to have more leeway than you'd see given to the typical department. Being a progressive is a lot easier when you have vigilant muscleheads roaming your streets at all hours of the day and night.

    I think there are definitely some raging bull types in the SPD, but hound dog sounds like a good description for the bulk of the cops. My point is that the SPD seems to have a lot of very tough looking men who you don't want to mess with. Same is true for some of the wealthy eastside suburbs. NYPD is another tough department, but affirmative action is lowering the quality of that workforce quickly. Seattle is lucky to still graduate mostly white police cadet classes.

    Gentrification is pushing out a lot of African-Americans, while Asians, Hispanics, SWPL whites, and East African blacks come in. With the new high minimum wage in Seattle, it seems like the city will experience even more gentrification in the future.

    With the new high minimum wage in Seattle, it seems like the city will experience even more gentrification in the future.

    Insulation from effects makes the holding of destructive positions much easier.

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  133. Adar. says:

    That harangue went on for twenty minutes. Then Bernie tried to get the mike back and was “shoved”? Making contact in that context is a crime and Bernie besides is a senior citizen so the offense normally gets you three times the sentence.

    This is the same bunch that did the previous shout out with O’Malley.

    These two liberals ended up looking really bad.

    Bernie is it reported walked off the stage raising a clenched fist.

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  134. Anonymous says: • Disclaimer

    Has anyone else noticed that Bernie (Glassberg) Sanders is Jewish? And that he spent “months” (Wikipedia) on a kibbutz?

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  135. Twinkie says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Back when the Democrats actually represented the interests of working class people (pre-Clinton), there were a lot of tough union hardhat types. Such men don't really identify much with the left-wing of the Democratic party. They're disaffected by the Democratic worship of corporatists and Wall Streeters. They're also turned off by all the straight white American male bashing.

    These days, a lot of the hardhats have left politics or vote Republican. The masculine hardhat Democrats are either gone or aging remnants from the pre-1990s era. There are plenty who might vote Democratic, but they tend to stay away from these types of events.

    Looking at the Sanders crowd on various new sites, I noticed how effeminate the progressive men appear. There's a definite testosterone deficiency in the modern day Democratic party, except among blacks. These days, the Democratic base are an interesting coalition of feminists, immigrants, effete white guys, gays, and blacks.

    In places like Seattle, the cops tend to be particularly harsh and brutal. They keep the order. The progressive white men hide behind them. It's easy being a progressive when you got a 200-lb well-armed muscle head watching your back. Seattle pays its cops very well and attracts lots of warrior-cop types.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL2XI_-T1yQ

    Progressive men in places like NYC and Seattle outsource their masculinity to raging bull (mostly white) cops. The model works well, allowing the progressives to maintain their wimpiness and stay safe.

    In places like Seattle, the cops tend to be particularly harsh and brutal. They keep the order. The progressive white men hide behind them. It’s easy being a progressive when you got a 200-lb well-armed muscle head watching your back. Seattle pays its cops very well and attracts lots of warrior-cop types.

    Progressive men in places like NYC and Seattle outsource their masculinity to raging bull (mostly white) cops. The model works well, allowing the progressives to maintain their wimpiness and stay safe.

    Ugh. You know nothing about the Seattle PD.

    Cops in Seattle are not “particularly harsh and brutal,” and Seattle PD officers are not “raging bulls.” It actually has a relatively high percentage of non-white officers (“balanced” according to one report). To the extent that Seattle is a popular city, it attracts qualified candidates into the PD, so the officers are usually college-educated, professional, athletic types. As with other popular police forces, it takes many former military officers (also helps that there is Fort Lewis nearby).

    I used to train regularly with the LEOs in the Seattle area, and they were mostly older, calm, mellow types with good heads on their shoulders, not burly raging bulls with itchy trigger fingers. Good police officers are those who have good judgments and are calm under pressure, not those “testosterone-poisoned.”

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    You're right. I don't know where this guy is getting this. Seattle pays its cops well, attracting higher quality candidates and demanding higher standards (relatively speaking). But they also manage to be less brutal because the city is whiter. Of course, this doesn't get them off the federal hook; note the angry girls reference to a consent decree; politicians in Seattle and Portland have thrown their forces under the bus for ginned-up federal cases. Here in PDX they leveraged a botched arrest of a mentally ill person (and we have many such roaming homeless here) into a "pattern of bias" decree. The force has undergone quite a bit of reform, but the lefties here will never be satisfied.

    We have blacks to thank for one thing: a greater level of police accountability for all. Too bad we seem intent on pushing it to the breaking point because no one knows how to deal with such as the #blacklives hysterics.

    , @Anon
    "Progressive men in places like NYC and Seattle outsource their masculinity to raging bull (mostly white) cops. The model works well, allowing the progressives to maintain their wimpiness and stay safe."

    They should hire African police. They take care of business, and it wouldn't 'racist'.

    https://youtu.be/Sam7O1JbmBM?t=48s
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  136. Twinkie says:
    @anon
    Yeah, the most shrill one? She looks half asian. Actually, several of those blacks look biracial.

    Same deal several days ago at the Black Lives Matter event at Cleavland State University, where the leadership asked all white people (i.e. a single reporter) to leave the circle. The leaders were predominantly light skinned and there were a bunch of obviously biracial little kids milling about.

    http://www.cleveland.com/naymik/index.ssf/2015/07/police_and_movement_for_black.html

    Yeah, the most shrill one? She looks half asian. Actually, several of those blacks look biracial.

    She looks part “Native American” or Polynesian. Didn’t the one of the left rail about Seattle being “occupied Native American” land or something?

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  137. Dennis Dale says: • Website
    @Twinkie

    In places like Seattle, the cops tend to be particularly harsh and brutal. They keep the order. The progressive white men hide behind them. It’s easy being a progressive when you got a 200-lb well-armed muscle head watching your back. Seattle pays its cops very well and attracts lots of warrior-cop types.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL2XI_-T1yQ

    Progressive men in places like NYC and Seattle outsource their masculinity to raging bull (mostly white) cops. The model works well, allowing the progressives to maintain their wimpiness and stay safe.
     
    Ugh. You know nothing about the Seattle PD.

    Cops in Seattle are not "particularly harsh and brutal," and Seattle PD officers are not "raging bulls." It actually has a relatively high percentage of non-white officers ("balanced" according to one report). To the extent that Seattle is a popular city, it attracts qualified candidates into the PD, so the officers are usually college-educated, professional, athletic types. As with other popular police forces, it takes many former military officers (also helps that there is Fort Lewis nearby).

    I used to train regularly with the LEOs in the Seattle area, and they were mostly older, calm, mellow types with good heads on their shoulders, not burly raging bulls with itchy trigger fingers. Good police officers are those who have good judgments and are calm under pressure, not those "testosterone-poisoned."

    You’re right. I don’t know where this guy is getting this. Seattle pays its cops well, attracting higher quality candidates and demanding higher standards (relatively speaking). But they also manage to be less brutal because the city is whiter. Of course, this doesn’t get them off the federal hook; note the angry girls reference to a consent decree; politicians in Seattle and Portland have thrown their forces under the bus for ginned-up federal cases. Here in PDX they leveraged a botched arrest of a mentally ill person (and we have many such roaming homeless here) into a “pattern of bias” decree. The force has undergone quite a bit of reform, but the lefties here will never be satisfied.

    We have blacks to thank for one thing: a greater level of police accountability for all. Too bad we seem intent on pushing it to the breaking point because no one knows how to deal with such as the #blacklives hysterics.

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  138. Bert says:

    Whenever I hear one of Steve’s fans talk about masculinity, I always assume said person is either an autist or an insecure middle-aged man.

    Thank you guys for never proving me wrong.

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    It's scarily consistent, isn't it?
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  139. Bayonet says:
    @Prof. Woland
    After watching this theater of the absurd my advice to any political campaign would be to use a cordless mic and just shut off the offending mouths. Better yet, use some type of synthesizer to garble their voices so it would come out as farm animal noises. "black lives ... baaa baaa.

    I wondered the same thing. How hard would it be to mime the international “cut it” sign and just shut the volume down?

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  140. Trumped says:

    Isn’t the philosophy of cultural Marxism that whites should step aside for less qualified non-white competitors? This is basically a form of Affirmative Action if you think about it – Sanders was more qualified to speak, but his own ideology advocates less qualified people take the spots of whites and Asians in the interests of diversity.

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  141. @Dahlia
    https://www.facebook.com/BLMSeattle/posts/716844418437393

    They hate white liberals far more than they hate any white Southern conservative. But that's not news...

    Bernie Sanders showed immense grace.

    Should we call him a “Cuckocrat?”

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  142. casey says:
    @e
    Bernie showed grace? Seriously?

    He comes off to me as a cuckolded wimp, just like most prog males. He just moved over and let them take over. Disgraceful. WW2 generation of men rolling over in their graves.

    I don’t get why when a scheduled speech at a large-scale event is interrupted by others jumping on the stage and attempting to seize the platform, it is up to the speaker to deal with them?? What ever happened to security removing people?

    btw thanks for posting this, I was too lazy to bother watching it until now, and it is indeed shocking. The women on the right is really freaking out, unbelievable.

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  143. Karl says:
    @Glossy
    There's been some speculation that the Black Lives Matter people are paid by Soros to disrupt Bernie's campaign. Soros is backing Hillary. However, Bernie was never a serious threat to Hillary. Is this even necessary from the Hillary/Soros perspective?

    On the other hand if these women decided to do this all by themselves, why Bernie, off all the targets they could have chosen? And this is the second time that they've done this to him. I could have understood one time - Black lives (I'm not talking about the organization) are often chaotic and unpredictable. Random, illogical stuff happens in them with some frequency. But this is a pattern now.

    >> if these women decided to do this all by themselves, why Bernie, off all the targets they could have chosen?

    Because predators can smell weakness.

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  144. Matra says:

    Comments at the Seattle Times are kind of funny.

    Why don’t they mess with the Republican candidates who basically admit that they don’t care about poverty, civil rights, or excessive imprisonment? They know they’d probably get shot, that’s why. They know that we’ll tolerate their verbal abuse and disrespect. I think we need to set some boundaries with the Black community. Let them know that they can’t treat us however they want and get away with it. If they want to keep their White allies, they need to stop talking to us like we’re their enemy. If they’re going to treat me like an enemy, then that’s how I’m going to treat them

    Seattle Times

    Lack of reciprocity from blacks? Why, I never! Liberals only notice things decades after everybody else.

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    After meeting with Bernie Sanders about criminal justice and Black Lives Matter, Bernie Sanders has hired woman of color Symone Sanders as national press secretary.
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  145. @Matra
    Comments at the Seattle Times are kind of funny.

    Why don't they mess with the Republican candidates who basically admit that they don't care about poverty, civil rights, or excessive imprisonment? They know they'd probably get shot, that's why. They know that we'll tolerate their verbal abuse and disrespect. I think we need to set some boundaries with the Black community. Let them know that they can't treat us however they want and get away with it. If they want to keep their White allies, they need to stop talking to us like we're their enemy. If they're going to treat me like an enemy, then that's how I'm going to treat them
     
    Seattle Times

    Lack of reciprocity from blacks? Why, I never! Liberals only notice things decades after everybody else.

    After meeting with Bernie Sanders about criminal justice and Black Lives Matter, Bernie Sanders has hired woman of color Symone Sanders as national press secretary.

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    And he assured a crowd in Portland the day after this occurred that he would do all he can to 'end racism'. Who was it on this thread that said progressives would learn nothing from this? Well, Bernie learned nothing, maybe a few of his followers did.
    , @5371
    Hopefully Deion and Barry Sanders won't be far behind.
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  146. @Trumpenprole

    Sacagawea got squat for interpreting for Lewis and Clark.
     
    She got reunited with her brother, and with the tribe from whom she was stolen as a child and sold as a slave. She got to travel across the unspoiled wilderness of America. Plus, I'm pretty sure her husband was payed for their troubles.

    “Sacagawea got squat…”

    And add to what Chuck listed, Wm Clark followed through on his promise to raise her two children if she passed away.

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    Lewis and Clark paid for the services of Charbonneau, the trapper, not his two wives- Sacagawea and Otter Woman. Both of whom Charbonneau purchased from the Hidatsa. Monetarily Sacagawea got "squat". But, yeah, she did get to see the view.
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  147. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Twinkie

    In places like Seattle, the cops tend to be particularly harsh and brutal. They keep the order. The progressive white men hide behind them. It’s easy being a progressive when you got a 200-lb well-armed muscle head watching your back. Seattle pays its cops very well and attracts lots of warrior-cop types.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL2XI_-T1yQ

    Progressive men in places like NYC and Seattle outsource their masculinity to raging bull (mostly white) cops. The model works well, allowing the progressives to maintain their wimpiness and stay safe.
     
    Ugh. You know nothing about the Seattle PD.

    Cops in Seattle are not "particularly harsh and brutal," and Seattle PD officers are not "raging bulls." It actually has a relatively high percentage of non-white officers ("balanced" according to one report). To the extent that Seattle is a popular city, it attracts qualified candidates into the PD, so the officers are usually college-educated, professional, athletic types. As with other popular police forces, it takes many former military officers (also helps that there is Fort Lewis nearby).

    I used to train regularly with the LEOs in the Seattle area, and they were mostly older, calm, mellow types with good heads on their shoulders, not burly raging bulls with itchy trigger fingers. Good police officers are those who have good judgments and are calm under pressure, not those "testosterone-poisoned."

    “Progressive men in places like NYC and Seattle outsource their masculinity to raging bull (mostly white) cops. The model works well, allowing the progressives to maintain their wimpiness and stay safe.”

    They should hire African police. They take care of business, and it wouldn’t ‘racist’.

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    Are you responding to me or to the other commenter whose writing I excerpted in disagreement?
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  148. Ron Unz says:

    Well, I haven’t (yet) had a chance to read this very long comment-thread, but here’s a point that might be partially germane to the psychology involved, which I’ve made once or twice before…

    Blacks are about 13% of the population, but because they are so enormously over-represented in sports, entertainement, popular culture, and (ahem) “legal issues” it’s undeniable that leading national polls show the average American believes they constitute one-third of the U.S. Moreover, the estimate is much higher among blacks themselves, who think they’re almost 45% of the country.

    But consider that is the average estimate for all blacks, and I’d strongly suspect that the slice of the black population that is educated and middle-class and (usually) lives and works in an over-whelmingly white (or non-black) world, probably knows perfectly well that blacks are just a small minority. Therefore, that would imply that the remaining large portion of blacks believe they represent half or more of the entire country, and that would surely be most true of the many millions of blacks living in almost entirely black areas, who overwhelmingly watch black TV and movies and have relatively little contact with the non-black world. Furthermore, these would be the least educated and knowledgeable blacks.

    Now for those blacks who vaguely believe that America is mostly black, the fact that the overwhelming majority of political and business leaders are not black is surely further evidence of discrimination and oppression, a carbon-copy of what they’ve vaguely heard about in South Africa.

    And even for those somewhat more sophisticated blacks who realize this isn’t factually correct, I’d think their regular interaction with so many other blacks who think in those terms might tint their perception of reality.

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    Blacks are about 13% of the population, but because they are so enormously over-represented in sports, entertainement, popular culture, and (ahem) “legal issues”
     
    Perhaps also because blacks lead a much more segregated lives than other non-whites?
    , @Anon
    Even if every black knew his/her kind comprised 13% of the population, they would be flipping because it's just their nature.
    , @Bill P

    Therefore, that would imply that the remaining large portion of blacks believe they represent half or more of the entire country, and that would surely be most true of the many millions of blacks living in almost entirely black areas, who overwhelmingly watch black TV and movies and have relatively little contact with the non-black world. Furthermore, these would be the least educated and knowledgeable blacks.
     
    This is true according to my own experience. I argued with black acquaintances in junior high school, when I lived in a largely black neighborhood in Seattle (which has always had relatively few blacks), over whether there were in fact more whites or blacks in the city and country in general. Granted, we were 14 at the time, but still you'd think they'd realize that Seattle was not majority black. They did not. Furthermore, many of them were unaware of the fact that we lived in Washington state, and thought we were actually in California. They didn't know the cardinal directions, and had only a vague idea of the existence of other countries. I could go on and on, but it would be beating a dead horse.

    The depth of ignorance in the black population is so severely underestimated by their white progressive allies that I'm not sure whether the two groups understand each other at all. Actually, this makes the white progressives themselves come off as pretty stupid, or at least clueless.

    My solution: leave the two of them to each other. Isolate the cities. Put cultural secession into practice.
    , @midtown
    In the South, at least, many blacks live in towns and cities that are 30-50% black. It is still ignorant, but I could see how some might think that if all they are going on is what they see in their immediate area.
    , @Matra
    Unfortunately it is not only blacks who are pig ignorant about demographics. Wasn't there a poll a few years ago showing a significant proportion of Americans massively overestimating the homosexual percentage of the population? I use to talk politics with a work colleague in Ireland, a guy with a university education in the arts and an avid reader rarely seen without at least one broadsheet newspaper. One day I discovered that he believed England had a population of only 4 million which he thought was about the same as Ireland! No wonder he was annoyed by England's disproportionate cultural influence in the British Isles. But this is not unusual. Just think of how often media people (supposedly well educated) will claim 2 billion watch the Oscars (an absurd number they've been using since the early 80s). Sports media regularly report cumulative viewing figures for a sporting event or league in the billions without mentioning the cumulative part, apparently unaware how many people live in their country or the world.

    Attaining demographic info may be seen as basic to people who come to sites like this but in the world beyond most people, including those in media, have never really thought about this stuff.
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  149. @SPMoore8
    Well, that was pretty incredible.

    I don't know if I have seen such self pity, such a sense of entitlement, such pushy (literally) behavior ever, excluding the conduct of three year olds. I mean the way the one black chick starts crying when she says, "I had to fight through all of this just to say that my life matters!" And the way the other black chick was screaming at the event organizer, pushing him, and almost hitting him, to yield the microphone. I had no idea it was that chaotic and frankly violent.

    The word for this is: Indulgence. We are indulgent of this kind of foolishness, and these two gals, who might even be former members of a debate team, are used to getting their way, no matter how absurd and out of place their actions are.

    “I don’t know if I have seen such self pity, such a sense of entitlement, such pushy (literally) behavior ever, excluding the conduct of three year olds.”

    I remember being at a public event with a long line for the outhouses. When a couple of young black men cut to the front, many of those in line urged them to wait their turn. One of the black men responded by shouting “My people have been waiting in line for 400 years”.

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  150. Hacienda says:
    @Ron Mexico
    "Sacagawea got squat..."

    And add to what Chuck listed, Wm Clark followed through on his promise to raise her two children if she passed away.

    Lewis and Clark paid for the services of Charbonneau, the trapper, not his two wives- Sacagawea and Otter Woman. Both of whom Charbonneau purchased from the Hidatsa. Monetarily Sacagawea got “squat”. But, yeah, she did get to see the view.

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    Clark favored Sacagawea and had nothing nice to say about Touissant Charbonneau, who was half-Indian himself BTW. I think Clark had a crush on Sacagawea. He went so far as to adopt the kid (nicknamed "Pomp"), raising him in privilege. Of course he offered to provide for Sacagawea as well, inviting her and Touissant Charbonneau to live in Missouri under his patronage, which they did for a spell until deciding to move to a trading post, where Sacagawea died of fever.

    Sacagawea had it better following the expedition than Meriwether Lewis. People who say she didn't get squat are full of squat themselves.
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  151. Twinkie says:
    @Corvinus
    Mark Minter...

    "Black Live Matter is a campaign based on fraudulent assumptions that is backed at length by POTUS, the US AG, often the courts, universities, and much of the mainstream media."

    It's a campaign engineered by fringe groups, with parts of their agenda that has ALWAYS been backed by the groups you've mentioned. It's nothing new.

    "So we resort to more effective “meme”, a slur, delivered in an aggressive and confrontational manner..."

    Cuckservative, like #BlackLivesMatter, are running jokes. They are empty phrases simply designed to generate the frothing of the mouth by (D) and (R) race baiters.

    "we are often shouted down by cowardly accusations of Racist, Sexist, Misogynist, Homophobe, and the particularly stupid Transphobe."

    I would agree that those terms have lost their meaning. They have been co-opted by the left and the right for their own designs. HOWEVER, when people make these statements**, then it's no wonder they get "shouted down".

    **"For many of us, this country and the tyranny it imposes on the people that built it, its best citizens, means little to us in its current form"

    What do you mean by "best citizens"? And what "tyranny"? Again, be specific.

    **"Better Clinton kill it so we may end it and start anew in another form based on true liberty, true justice, and true freedom for all."

    What is "true" liberty? "true" justice? "true" freedom"? These terms are meaningless. Why don't you spell it out. Be like Trump.

    **They and the Republican media, along with Republican NGOs and think tanks have stood by, cowardly and allowed the church, as well as great conservative institutions and private individuals to be destroyed.

    What church do you refer to? You do realize that there is separation of church and state, right? And what "great conservative institutions and private individuals? Destroyed? Ok, tell us.

    **White Lives Matter More. At least to me.

    No, AMERICAN PEOPLE matter more.

    "We have no support in any mainstream media."

    Perhaps LITTLE support, but NO support? You overreached on that characterization.

    "The later take great pains to inflate and often distort the instances where police have killed blacks in the course of arrests. The tactics employed by these activists are entirely based on threat, confrontation, humiliation, and dominance."

    I would venture to say those whom you politically support also engage in this conduct, too.

    Donald Trump has no filter. No need to. He's rich. And even if he doesn't become president, he will still have his wealth. Unlike politicians, who rely on handlers and polls, they have to be mindful of what they say and do, and run cover for statements they made months or years ago. There's an election to be won, after all. But with Trump, conservatives and Republicans are jumping for joy, because he has the "audacity" to speak up. He talks tough in public. Says things that's on his mind. But Trump is no "true" or "real" Conservative. And if he is elected to the Oval Office, will those supporters who are so gleeful for rocking the establishment to the core be so giddy? It's a shit show.

    Donald Trump has no filter. No need to. He’s rich. And even if he doesn’t become president, he will still have his wealth.

    Having money doesn’t entitle you to lack grace and courtesy. If anything, one’s wealth and privilege ought to make one a model for others. To think otherwise says a lot about contemporary America.

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    "Having money doesn’t entitle you to lack grace and courtesy."

    Trump is a clown but given what has become of American politics, at least he's an honest clown.

    'Grace' and 'courtesy' in today's climate?

    That's just puppets smiling and groveling before Adelson.
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  152. Twinkie says:
    @Anon
    "Progressive men in places like NYC and Seattle outsource their masculinity to raging bull (mostly white) cops. The model works well, allowing the progressives to maintain their wimpiness and stay safe."

    They should hire African police. They take care of business, and it wouldn't 'racist'.

    https://youtu.be/Sam7O1JbmBM?t=48s

    Are you responding to me or to the other commenter whose writing I excerpted in disagreement?

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  153. Twinkie says:
    @Ron Unz
    Well, I haven't (yet) had a chance to read this very long comment-thread, but here's a point that might be partially germane to the psychology involved, which I've made once or twice before...

    Blacks are about 13% of the population, but because they are so enormously over-represented in sports, entertainement, popular culture, and (ahem) "legal issues" it's undeniable that leading national polls show the average American believes they constitute one-third of the U.S. Moreover, the estimate is much higher among blacks themselves, who think they're almost 45% of the country.

    But consider that is the average estimate for all blacks, and I'd strongly suspect that the slice of the black population that is educated and middle-class and (usually) lives and works in an over-whelmingly white (or non-black) world, probably knows perfectly well that blacks are just a small minority. Therefore, that would imply that the remaining large portion of blacks believe they represent half or more of the entire country, and that would surely be most true of the many millions of blacks living in almost entirely black areas, who overwhelmingly watch black TV and movies and have relatively little contact with the non-black world. Furthermore, these would be the least educated and knowledgeable blacks.

    Now for those blacks who vaguely believe that America is mostly black, the fact that the overwhelming majority of political and business leaders are not black is surely further evidence of discrimination and oppression, a carbon-copy of what they've vaguely heard about in South Africa.

    And even for those somewhat more sophisticated blacks who realize this isn't factually correct, I'd think their regular interaction with so many other blacks who think in those terms might tint their perception of reality.

    Blacks are about 13% of the population, but because they are so enormously over-represented in sports, entertainement, popular culture, and (ahem) “legal issues”

    Perhaps also because blacks lead a much more segregated lives than other non-whites?

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    "Perhaps also because blacks lead a much more segregated lives than other non-whites?"

    Asian Americans, especially in California also lead very racially segregated lives. So much that a term had to be invented for it called the Asian bubble. The typical average Asian American in places like the Bay Area, Orange County, and the San Gabriel Valley only socialize with other Asians on their free time away from work. An example of this is the Youtube stars the Fung Brothers, they live in an Asian bubble where they only talk about Asian things and nothing else. That is why their Youtube fanbase is like 95-99 percent Asian. They have extremely few Caucasoid fans even though they reside in a majority Caucasoid nation. And that is because the topics they talk about do not appeal much to Non Asians.

    The Fung Brothers admitted that they left their hometown of Seattle because they thought there were too few Asians there, even though Seattle is 13 percent Asian which is higher than the national average. They did not feel racially at home until they moved into 67 percent Asian Monterey Park, California which is a suburb of Los Angeles.

    The American born Fung Brothers feel like they step foot in a foreign country whenever they come across a flyover state because they are not used to being in places where the percentage of Asians is not in the double digits like in the West Coast, Hawaii, and New York City. Iowa, Utah, Kentucky, Arizona, Florida etc would feel extremely foreign to them.

    I remember when The Fung Brothers made a video in Tampa, Florida and the first thing they noticed was how few Asians they see when compared to their residence in the Los Angeles metropolitan area.

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  154. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Twinkie

    Donald Trump has no filter. No need to. He’s rich. And even if he doesn’t become president, he will still have his wealth.
     
    Having money doesn't entitle you to lack grace and courtesy. If anything, one's wealth and privilege ought to make one a model for others. To think otherwise says a lot about contemporary America.

    “Having money doesn’t entitle you to lack grace and courtesy.”

    Trump is a clown but given what has become of American politics, at least he’s an honest clown.

    ‘Grace’ and ‘courtesy’ in today’s climate?

    That’s just puppets smiling and groveling before Adelson.

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    Trump is a clown but given what has become of American politics, at least he’s an honest clown.
     
    And on what do you base that he is an honest anything?

    ‘Grace’ and ‘courtesy’ in today’s climate?

    That’s just puppets smiling and groveling before Adelson.
     
    You know, at some point you have to come down from the fantasy stage you constructed for yourself and live in the real world. There is rather wide gulf between groveling to the money men and making disgraceful and ungentlemanly remarks about a woman's menstruation in public.
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  155. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Ron Unz
    Well, I haven't (yet) had a chance to read this very long comment-thread, but here's a point that might be partially germane to the psychology involved, which I've made once or twice before...

    Blacks are about 13% of the population, but because they are so enormously over-represented in sports, entertainement, popular culture, and (ahem) "legal issues" it's undeniable that leading national polls show the average American believes they constitute one-third of the U.S. Moreover, the estimate is much higher among blacks themselves, who think they're almost 45% of the country.

    But consider that is the average estimate for all blacks, and I'd strongly suspect that the slice of the black population that is educated and middle-class and (usually) lives and works in an over-whelmingly white (or non-black) world, probably knows perfectly well that blacks are just a small minority. Therefore, that would imply that the remaining large portion of blacks believe they represent half or more of the entire country, and that would surely be most true of the many millions of blacks living in almost entirely black areas, who overwhelmingly watch black TV and movies and have relatively little contact with the non-black world. Furthermore, these would be the least educated and knowledgeable blacks.

    Now for those blacks who vaguely believe that America is mostly black, the fact that the overwhelming majority of political and business leaders are not black is surely further evidence of discrimination and oppression, a carbon-copy of what they've vaguely heard about in South Africa.

    And even for those somewhat more sophisticated blacks who realize this isn't factually correct, I'd think their regular interaction with so many other blacks who think in those terms might tint their perception of reality.

    Even if every black knew his/her kind comprised 13% of the population, they would be flipping because it’s just their nature.

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  156. Bill P says:
    @Ron Unz
    Well, I haven't (yet) had a chance to read this very long comment-thread, but here's a point that might be partially germane to the psychology involved, which I've made once or twice before...

    Blacks are about 13% of the population, but because they are so enormously over-represented in sports, entertainement, popular culture, and (ahem) "legal issues" it's undeniable that leading national polls show the average American believes they constitute one-third of the U.S. Moreover, the estimate is much higher among blacks themselves, who think they're almost 45% of the country.

    But consider that is the average estimate for all blacks, and I'd strongly suspect that the slice of the black population that is educated and middle-class and (usually) lives and works in an over-whelmingly white (or non-black) world, probably knows perfectly well that blacks are just a small minority. Therefore, that would imply that the remaining large portion of blacks believe they represent half or more of the entire country, and that would surely be most true of the many millions of blacks living in almost entirely black areas, who overwhelmingly watch black TV and movies and have relatively little contact with the non-black world. Furthermore, these would be the least educated and knowledgeable blacks.

    Now for those blacks who vaguely believe that America is mostly black, the fact that the overwhelming majority of political and business leaders are not black is surely further evidence of discrimination and oppression, a carbon-copy of what they've vaguely heard about in South Africa.

    And even for those somewhat more sophisticated blacks who realize this isn't factually correct, I'd think their regular interaction with so many other blacks who think in those terms might tint their perception of reality.

    Therefore, that would imply that the remaining large portion of blacks believe they represent half or more of the entire country, and that would surely be most true of the many millions of blacks living in almost entirely black areas, who overwhelmingly watch black TV and movies and have relatively little contact with the non-black world. Furthermore, these would be the least educated and knowledgeable blacks.

    This is true according to my own experience. I argued with black acquaintances in junior high school, when I lived in a largely black neighborhood in Seattle (which has always had relatively few blacks), over whether there were in fact more whites or blacks in the city and country in general. Granted, we were 14 at the time, but still you’d think they’d realize that Seattle was not majority black. They did not. Furthermore, many of them were unaware of the fact that we lived in Washington state, and thought we were actually in California. They didn’t know the cardinal directions, and had only a vague idea of the existence of other countries. I could go on and on, but it would be beating a dead horse.

    The depth of ignorance in the black population is so severely underestimated by their white progressive allies that I’m not sure whether the two groups understand each other at all. Actually, this makes the white progressives themselves come off as pretty stupid, or at least clueless.

    My solution: leave the two of them to each other. Isolate the cities. Put cultural secession into practice.

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  157. Twinkie says:
    @Anon
    "Having money doesn’t entitle you to lack grace and courtesy."

    Trump is a clown but given what has become of American politics, at least he's an honest clown.

    'Grace' and 'courtesy' in today's climate?

    That's just puppets smiling and groveling before Adelson.

    Trump is a clown but given what has become of American politics, at least he’s an honest clown.

    And on what do you base that he is an honest anything?

    ‘Grace’ and ‘courtesy’ in today’s climate?

    That’s just puppets smiling and groveling before Adelson.

    You know, at some point you have to come down from the fantasy stage you constructed for yourself and live in the real world. There is rather wide gulf between groveling to the money men and making disgraceful and ungentlemanly remarks about a woman’s menstruation in public.

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    "And on what do you base that he is an honest anything?"

    He is honest in style. In substance they are all liars.

    "There is rather wide gulf between groveling to the money men and making disgraceful and ungentlemanly remarks about a woman’s menstruation in public."

    Not if the woman in question happens to be hit-ho of the moneymen.

    Ladies should be treated like decent womenfolk.

    Hussies need to be treated accordingly.

    007 understood this. ho must go.

    https://youtu.be/T9sXFrAGYIQ?t=5m
    , @anon

    There is rather wide gulf between groveling to the money men and making disgraceful and ungentlemanly remarks about a woman’s menstruation in public.
     
    A wide and currently completely empty gulf.
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  158. Bill P says:
    @Hacienda
    Lewis and Clark paid for the services of Charbonneau, the trapper, not his two wives- Sacagawea and Otter Woman. Both of whom Charbonneau purchased from the Hidatsa. Monetarily Sacagawea got "squat". But, yeah, she did get to see the view.

    Clark favored Sacagawea and had nothing nice to say about Touissant Charbonneau, who was half-Indian himself BTW. I think Clark had a crush on Sacagawea. He went so far as to adopt the kid (nicknamed “Pomp”), raising him in privilege. Of course he offered to provide for Sacagawea as well, inviting her and Touissant Charbonneau to live in Missouri under his patronage, which they did for a spell until deciding to move to a trading post, where Sacagawea died of fever.

    Sacagawea had it better following the expedition than Meriwether Lewis. People who say she didn’t get squat are full of squat themselves.

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    Not going to argue 1st principles. But here's my best current knowledge:

    Clark didn't like Charboneau's character and competency. He did appreciate S's usefulness in dealing with the Shoshone. There's not much evidence of what Clark felt toward Sacagawea. He rarely mentions her. Little is known of S except through expedition notes. And mentions of S are scarce. Fictional accounts- plays, stories- will add romance interest. But the facts show nothing. If you have concrete evidence to the contrary, please link or refer.

    There's very little known of S's life. But her life has been re-interpreted to suit whatever interest group is there That should be obvious enough.

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  159. Hacienda says:
    @Bill P
    Clark favored Sacagawea and had nothing nice to say about Touissant Charbonneau, who was half-Indian himself BTW. I think Clark had a crush on Sacagawea. He went so far as to adopt the kid (nicknamed "Pomp"), raising him in privilege. Of course he offered to provide for Sacagawea as well, inviting her and Touissant Charbonneau to live in Missouri under his patronage, which they did for a spell until deciding to move to a trading post, where Sacagawea died of fever.

    Sacagawea had it better following the expedition than Meriwether Lewis. People who say she didn't get squat are full of squat themselves.

    Not going to argue 1st principles. But here’s my best current knowledge:

    Clark didn’t like Charboneau’s character and competency. He did appreciate S’s usefulness in dealing with the Shoshone. There’s not much evidence of what Clark felt toward Sacagawea. He rarely mentions her. Little is known of S except through expedition notes. And mentions of S are scarce. Fictional accounts- plays, stories- will add romance interest. But the facts show nothing. If you have concrete evidence to the contrary, please link or refer.

    There’s very little known of S’s life. But her life has been re-interpreted to suit whatever interest group is there That should be obvious enough.

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    Fictional accounts- plays, stories- will add romance interest. But the facts show nothing. If you have concrete evidence to the contrary, please link or refer.
     
    I base it on the fact that she was the only woman on the trip for much of the time. Most of the men probably thought about sleeping with her at some point on the voyage; it's only human nature. Add to that the fact that he adopted her son and seemed unreasonably hostile toward Charbonneau (who was praised by Lewis and some of the other men as being an excellent cook -- certainly a valuable skill in the wilderness) and it seems to me that he had some lingering affection for her.

    Of course it's speculation, but a good bet IMO.
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  160. EuroYankee says: • Website

    It was embarrassing to watch these narcissistic, bullying and above all shortsighted misandrists as they again disrespected and attacked our one best hope for economic, civil AND racial justice in America.
    Funny though how the folks at Black Lives Matter always give Hillary Clinton a pass: For example, Martin O’Malley said “all lives matter” and was promptly and roundly crucified – yet Hillary said the same thing and-? Crickets.
    This must be because George Soros, who is funding BLM, is a Hillary supporter. Yet poor Bernie – interrupted 2x in a row now when he has the best record on civil rights of anyone!

    BLM is a loosely affiliated amalgam of people with differing agendas, all elbowing each other to feed at the great George Soros funding trough.

    The result is that there is now a coordinated effort on the part of several black activists and groups to discredit Bernie Sanders among the general population but especially among Black Americans. Shameful, really…. I guess this horrible case of political sabotage is just one more indication that the Clintonistas are Feeling the Bern!! #BLMHRCWTF

    16 January 2015 – “Soros also gave money to the Drug Policy Alliance, which worked on the perpetuation of the ‘black lives matter’ buzz phrase, which has been incorporated into speeches by political figures including Hillary Clinton.” 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913625/Billionaire-George-Soros-spent-33MILLION-bankrolling-Ferguson-demonstrators-create-echo-chamber-drive-national-protests.html#ixzz3iJNFQ1Rk

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  161. Truth says:
    @Dennis Dale
    Indeed. But the real difference is in effect: the ballsy girls managed to deny the right of assembly to a US senator and hundreds of supporters and the hecklers didn't even seem to be trying. You have more right to be proud than you know. Totally winning, dude.

    No, My friend, they did not deny anyone anything. Mr. Sanders could have quite easily said, “no you can not speak, please step off the stage or I will call security.”

    It is quite obvious that the reasons they were so hostile is because the expected him to say “no.”

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    I see. You can have your constitutional rights once you pay the tithe. But let's be honest, the right thing to do, having these women physically removed, is not a viable option politically. Can you imagine how quickly it would have sunk Sanders, had he called security and had these girls dragged off, braying and crying?
    So it's worse than a handful of determined fools being empowered by the myth of white racism to stop freedom of assembly; they can wreck your whole political campaign if you're not careful. So I'll say it again: you give yourself and the loud ladies too little credit. You're winning like f---.
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  162. Truth says:
    @Bert
    Whenever I hear one of Steve's fans talk about masculinity, I always assume said person is either an autist or an insecure middle-aged man.

    Thank you guys for never proving me wrong.

    It’s scarily consistent, isn’t it?

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  163. el topo says:
    @Dirk Dagger
    After meeting with Bernie Sanders about criminal justice and Black Lives Matter, Bernie Sanders has hired woman of color Symone Sanders as national press secretary.

    And he assured a crowd in Portland the day after this occurred that he would do all he can to ‘end racism’. Who was it on this thread that said progressives would learn nothing from this? Well, Bernie learned nothing, maybe a few of his followers did.

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  164. midtown says:
    @Ron Unz
    Well, I haven't (yet) had a chance to read this very long comment-thread, but here's a point that might be partially germane to the psychology involved, which I've made once or twice before...

    Blacks are about 13% of the population, but because they are so enormously over-represented in sports, entertainement, popular culture, and (ahem) "legal issues" it's undeniable that leading national polls show the average American believes they constitute one-third of the U.S. Moreover, the estimate is much higher among blacks themselves, who think they're almost 45% of the country.

    But consider that is the average estimate for all blacks, and I'd strongly suspect that the slice of the black population that is educated and middle-class and (usually) lives and works in an over-whelmingly white (or non-black) world, probably knows perfectly well that blacks are just a small minority. Therefore, that would imply that the remaining large portion of blacks believe they represent half or more of the entire country, and that would surely be most true of the many millions of blacks living in almost entirely black areas, who overwhelmingly watch black TV and movies and have relatively little contact with the non-black world. Furthermore, these would be the least educated and knowledgeable blacks.

    Now for those blacks who vaguely believe that America is mostly black, the fact that the overwhelming majority of political and business leaders are not black is surely further evidence of discrimination and oppression, a carbon-copy of what they've vaguely heard about in South Africa.

    And even for those somewhat more sophisticated blacks who realize this isn't factually correct, I'd think their regular interaction with so many other blacks who think in those terms might tint their perception of reality.

    In the South, at least, many blacks live in towns and cities that are 30-50% black. It is still ignorant, but I could see how some might think that if all they are going on is what they see in their immediate area.

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    "In the South, at least, many blacks live in towns and cities that are 30-50% black. It is still ignorant, but I could see how some might think that if all they are going on is what they see in their immediate area."

    Reminds me of when DL Hughley said many years in a stand up act that growing up as a kid in the 1970s and early 1980s he used to believe Los Angeles was a majority Black city because he was so poor that he rarely ventured beyond the Compton and South Central areas.

    The poor African American underclass are the demographic most likely to believe they live in a majority Black country because they rarely come in close conversational contact with White people who do not work for law enforcement.

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  165. Drudge had this article this morning : http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/sanders-campaign-has-an-official-shout-down-chant-for-blackl#.anNLaYMq

    There is now an official “shout down the black people” chant for the white people to yell at the black activist who try to disrupt Bernie Sanders’ events.

    To repeat, the white liberals now have an official chant to yell at black people.

    This will go over REAL well. Where’s my popcorn?

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  166. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    Haute populism… how far can it go?

    Gentrified yuppies in globalized city pretending to be with the ‘workers’?

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  167. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Twinkie

    Trump is a clown but given what has become of American politics, at least he’s an honest clown.
     
    And on what do you base that he is an honest anything?

    ‘Grace’ and ‘courtesy’ in today’s climate?

    That’s just puppets smiling and groveling before Adelson.
     
    You know, at some point you have to come down from the fantasy stage you constructed for yourself and live in the real world. There is rather wide gulf between groveling to the money men and making disgraceful and ungentlemanly remarks about a woman's menstruation in public.

    “And on what do you base that he is an honest anything?”

    He is honest in style. In substance they are all liars.

    “There is rather wide gulf between groveling to the money men and making disgraceful and ungentlemanly remarks about a woman’s menstruation in public.”

    Not if the woman in question happens to be hit-ho of the moneymen.

    Ladies should be treated like decent womenfolk.

    Hussies need to be treated accordingly.

    007 understood this. ho must go.

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    I'm not knee jerk opposed to Trump, but a question I ask myself is: would Reagan have been caught speaking in public about women like that? I don't think so. It's too bad. Trump is a symptom of the coarseness of our culture. But I like him in the race pushing the issues. But as of right now, I'm with Ted Cruz.
    , @Twinkie

    Not if the woman in question happens to be hit-ho of the moneymen.

    Ladies should be treated like decent womenfolk.

    Hussies need to be treated accordingly.

    007 understood this. ho must go.
     
    Leave the dehumanization of opponents to the left. That kind of "she deserved it" attitude leads you to become your enemy.
    , @Truth
    I'm afraid I have to go with the Twinkster on this one, Old Bean. Acting like a simple-minded Cad for an international audience is not "alpha."
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  168. Bill P says:
    @Hacienda
    Not going to argue 1st principles. But here's my best current knowledge:

    Clark didn't like Charboneau's character and competency. He did appreciate S's usefulness in dealing with the Shoshone. There's not much evidence of what Clark felt toward Sacagawea. He rarely mentions her. Little is known of S except through expedition notes. And mentions of S are scarce. Fictional accounts- plays, stories- will add romance interest. But the facts show nothing. If you have concrete evidence to the contrary, please link or refer.

    There's very little known of S's life. But her life has been re-interpreted to suit whatever interest group is there That should be obvious enough.

    Fictional accounts- plays, stories- will add romance interest. But the facts show nothing. If you have concrete evidence to the contrary, please link or refer.

    I base it on the fact that she was the only woman on the trip for much of the time. Most of the men probably thought about sleeping with her at some point on the voyage; it’s only human nature. Add to that the fact that he adopted her son and seemed unreasonably hostile toward Charbonneau (who was praised by Lewis and some of the other men as being an excellent cook — certainly a valuable skill in the wilderness) and it seems to me that he had some lingering affection for her.

    Of course it’s speculation, but a good bet IMO.

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  169. Matra says:
    @Ron Unz
    Well, I haven't (yet) had a chance to read this very long comment-thread, but here's a point that might be partially germane to the psychology involved, which I've made once or twice before...

    Blacks are about 13% of the population, but because they are so enormously over-represented in sports, entertainement, popular culture, and (ahem) "legal issues" it's undeniable that leading national polls show the average American believes they constitute one-third of the U.S. Moreover, the estimate is much higher among blacks themselves, who think they're almost 45% of the country.

    But consider that is the average estimate for all blacks, and I'd strongly suspect that the slice of the black population that is educated and middle-class and (usually) lives and works in an over-whelmingly white (or non-black) world, probably knows perfectly well that blacks are just a small minority. Therefore, that would imply that the remaining large portion of blacks believe they represent half or more of the entire country, and that would surely be most true of the many millions of blacks living in almost entirely black areas, who overwhelmingly watch black TV and movies and have relatively little contact with the non-black world. Furthermore, these would be the least educated and knowledgeable blacks.

    Now for those blacks who vaguely believe that America is mostly black, the fact that the overwhelming majority of political and business leaders are not black is surely further evidence of discrimination and oppression, a carbon-copy of what they've vaguely heard about in South Africa.

    And even for those somewhat more sophisticated blacks who realize this isn't factually correct, I'd think their regular interaction with so many other blacks who think in those terms might tint their perception of reality.

    Unfortunately it is not only blacks who are pig ignorant about demographics. Wasn’t there a poll a few years ago showing a significant proportion of Americans massively overestimating the homosexual percentage of the population? I use to talk politics with a work colleague in Ireland, a guy with a university education in the arts and an avid reader rarely seen without at least one broadsheet newspaper. One day I discovered that he believed England had a population of only 4 million which he thought was about the same as Ireland! No wonder he was annoyed by England’s disproportionate cultural influence in the British Isles. But this is not unusual. Just think of how often media people (supposedly well educated) will claim 2 billion watch the Oscars (an absurd number they’ve been using since the early 80s). Sports media regularly report cumulative viewing figures for a sporting event or league in the billions without mentioning the cumulative part, apparently unaware how many people live in their country or the world.

    Attaining demographic info may be seen as basic to people who come to sites like this but in the world beyond most people, including those in media, have never really thought about this stuff.

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  170. Dennis Dale says: • Website
    @Truth
    No, My friend, they did not deny anyone anything. Mr. Sanders could have quite easily said, "no you can not speak, please step off the stage or I will call security."

    It is quite obvious that the reasons they were so hostile is because the expected him to say "no."

    I see. You can have your constitutional rights once you pay the tithe. But let’s be honest, the right thing to do, having these women physically removed, is not a viable option politically. Can you imagine how quickly it would have sunk Sanders, had he called security and had these girls dragged off, braying and crying?
    So it’s worse than a handful of determined fools being empowered by the myth of white racism to stop freedom of assembly; they can wreck your whole political campaign if you’re not careful. So I’ll say it again: you give yourself and the loud ladies too little credit. You’re winning like f—.

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    "I see. You can have your constitutional rights once you pay the tithe. But let’s be honest, the right thing to do, having these women physically removed, is not a viable option politically. Can you imagine how quickly it would have sunk Sanders, had he called security and had these girls dragged off, braying and crying?"

    I have to disagree with you there My friend. Those girls did not expect to get the microphone, and I don't thin anyone in the crowd expected it either. He made a decision, as 50 years ago, Bernie probably interrupted a few lunches in Mobile himself. It would probably not have been my decision, but either way, I don't how he suffers from not letting two kids, who were not on the agenda, onstage.

    "So it’s worse than a handful of determined fools being empowered by the myth of white racism to stop freedom of assembly; they can wreck your whole political campaign if you’re not careful. So I’ll say it again: you give yourself and the loud ladies too little credit. You’re winning like f—."

    Myth? You don't know white racists? I do. And I read their material here on a daily basis.

    No, I think “myth” is the wrong word here; “overstatement” would be more accurate. As it would be if I said the “myth” of black people taking over America. We are, because that is how YOU want it.

    There is a common, and, I thought, simple thread to most of my responses to your (in the larger sense, meaning ‘the Unzistas’)” THESE GODDAMNED N-s are bringing on the end of civilization” posts; which are, about %80 of what Mr. Sailer writes:

    You write about how it is unprecedented that someone would have the audacity to interrupt a politician speaking! I post 5 examples of it happening to Barry.
    You write about how it is unfathomable that someone would speak ebonics in a debate! I post video of how modern debate has a load of honk-ebonics for years.
    You write about how Every time a Kneegrow kills somebody, the other Kneegrows take his side! I post examples on how when some idiot cop shoots someone unarmed, driving away, or running, that vast majority of Unzistas make excuses for his “Dindu Nuffin” behavior.
    There is, my friend, a method to my madness. And the message is simple; no we are not entirely different, and no, black people do hold the key to your very ability to inhale oxygen. As Elanor Roosevelt once so brilliantly said:

    “Life is %5 what happens to you, and %95 how you react to it."

    Mr. Sanders reacted in a certain way, regarding two silly little girls, and guess what; the world did not spin off its axis....

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democratic-presidential-hopeful-bernie-sanders-draws-huge-crowd-in-la/2015/08/11/97058012-3fff-11e5-8d45-d815146f81fa_gallery.html
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  171. @Anon
    "And on what do you base that he is an honest anything?"

    He is honest in style. In substance they are all liars.

    "There is rather wide gulf between groveling to the money men and making disgraceful and ungentlemanly remarks about a woman’s menstruation in public."

    Not if the woman in question happens to be hit-ho of the moneymen.

    Ladies should be treated like decent womenfolk.

    Hussies need to be treated accordingly.

    007 understood this. ho must go.

    https://youtu.be/T9sXFrAGYIQ?t=5m

    I’m not knee jerk opposed to Trump, but a question I ask myself is: would Reagan have been caught speaking in public about women like that? I don’t think so. It’s too bad. Trump is a symptom of the coarseness of our culture. But I like him in the race pushing the issues. But as of right now, I’m with Ted Cruz.

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    "I’m not knee jerk opposed to Trump, but a question I ask myself is: would Reagan have been caught speaking in public about women like that? I don’t think so."

    Had Reagan been born much later, yes. Reagan belonged to an earlier generation with different norms.
    Of course, not all members of the older generation were so discreet. LBJ was one vulgar guy. And Nixon, though more cautious in public, sure had a mouth on him. (Also, if older generation was more discreet about sexual matters, they were more bawdy about racial matters. I'll bet every pre-boomer and even some boomer politicians used the enword a bunch of times and made all sorts of jokes about womenfolk, arabs, mexicans, asians, and homos. And Jews. Those were the days. My dad was a political leftist but his 'casual racism' about every ethnic group used to kill me. It was like watching Sanford and Son.)

    Trump is of the Clinton/Dubya(once a wild man) generation. He grew up with different norms.

    Also, he was in business and entertainment for a long time, where such kind of behavior was the norm, where it hardly raised an eyebrow.

    What he once did as an entertainer shouldn't reflect on his role as politician.
    Also, there have been plenty of times when guys like McCain and Obama blew up and said awful nasty and vulgar things. The media covered up for them, so why all this stuff about Trump?

    What Trump said about Kelly could be taken in different ways. I personally don't care because she's no classy lady but a whore bimbo twerp. She aint no journalist. She a whornalist.

    PS. On immigration, what Trump and Coulter can do is stop saying that Mexicans are a bunch of rapists and crooks but emphasize that Mexico tends to send its bad people to America. They've said as much but in ways that implied MOST Mexicans are bad people when Mexers generally are not.

    They should say every nation has its good people and bad people. US has a lot of bad people too. It has its share of murderers, rapists, druggies, losers, morons, cheaters, and bums. Now, how would any nation like it if US were to send so many of its losers, killers, and nincompoops over there? It'd be like Cuba dumping its worst in the early 80s.

    Since Mexico has tended to sends its worst for so long, how about this compromise for the next 20 yrs. US will take anyone from the upper 10% of income bracket from Mexico while Mexico takes anyone in America's lower 25% of income bracket?
    That way, we would be open to Mexico. But to quality.
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  172. Bernie should have just started shouting “Who bitch dis is?! Who bitch dis is?!” That would have earned him my vote.

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  173. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Andrew Jackson
    I'm not knee jerk opposed to Trump, but a question I ask myself is: would Reagan have been caught speaking in public about women like that? I don't think so. It's too bad. Trump is a symptom of the coarseness of our culture. But I like him in the race pushing the issues. But as of right now, I'm with Ted Cruz.

    “I’m not knee jerk opposed to Trump, but a question I ask myself is: would Reagan have been caught speaking in public about women like that? I don’t think so.”

    Had Reagan been born much later, yes. Reagan belonged to an earlier generation with different norms.
    Of course, not all members of the older generation were so discreet. LBJ was one vulgar guy. And Nixon, though more cautious in public, sure had a mouth on him. (Also, if older generation was more discreet about sexual matters, they were more bawdy about racial matters. I’ll bet every pre-boomer and even some boomer politicians used the enword a bunch of times and made all sorts of jokes about womenfolk, arabs, mexicans, asians, and homos. And Jews. Those were the days. My dad was a political leftist but his ‘casual racism’ about every ethnic group used to kill me. It was like watching Sanford and Son.)

    Trump is of the Clinton/Dubya(once a wild man) generation. He grew up with different norms.

    Also, he was in business and entertainment for a long time, where such kind of behavior was the norm, where it hardly raised an eyebrow.

    What he once did as an entertainer shouldn’t reflect on his role as politician.
    Also, there have been plenty of times when guys like McCain and Obama blew up and said awful nasty and vulgar things. The media covered up for them, so why all this stuff about Trump?

    What Trump said about Kelly could be taken in different ways. I personally don’t care because she’s no classy lady but a whore bimbo twerp. She aint no journalist. She a whornalist.

    PS. On immigration, what Trump and Coulter can do is stop saying that Mexicans are a bunch of rapists and crooks but emphasize that Mexico tends to send its bad people to America. They’ve said as much but in ways that implied MOST Mexicans are bad people when Mexers generally are not.

    They should say every nation has its good people and bad people. US has a lot of bad people too. It has its share of murderers, rapists, druggies, losers, morons, cheaters, and bums. Now, how would any nation like it if US were to send so many of its losers, killers, and nincompoops over there? It’d be like Cuba dumping its worst in the early 80s.

    Since Mexico has tended to sends its worst for so long, how about this compromise for the next 20 yrs. US will take anyone from the upper 10% of income bracket from Mexico while Mexico takes anyone in America’s lower 25% of income bracket?
    That way, we would be open to Mexico. But to quality.

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    Had Reagan been born much later, yes. Reagan belonged to an earlier generation with different norms.
     
    There are those of us who intend to keep "earlier... different norms" going and not let ourselves or families degenerate into that which we loathe. If you wish to throw your lot with a man lacking in character and gentlemanliness because he happens to tell you what you want to hear, that's your business, but don't tell the rest of us that this is okay because it's the mode of the times.

    What Trump said about Kelly could be taken in different ways. I personally don’t care because she’s no classy lady but a whore bimbo twerp. She aint no journalist. She a whornalist.
     
    My idea of a conservative is someone who holds onto timeless values and does not allow himself to be molded by the coarse pop culture. If you think that the wickedness of your political opponents justifies your own crudeness, you are really no better than the people and ideas you claim to oppose.

    A gentleman is courteous, not just to his equal, but to his inferiors as well. That does not mean he cannot fight what he hates forcefully and passionately, but he does so gracefully... which also happens to be attractive to others and win the hearts and minds of the yet-to-be-swayed.
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  174. Twinkie says:
    @Anon
    "And on what do you base that he is an honest anything?"

    He is honest in style. In substance they are all liars.

    "There is rather wide gulf between groveling to the money men and making disgraceful and ungentlemanly remarks about a woman’s menstruation in public."

    Not if the woman in question happens to be hit-ho of the moneymen.

    Ladies should be treated like decent womenfolk.

    Hussies need to be treated accordingly.

    007 understood this. ho must go.

    https://youtu.be/T9sXFrAGYIQ?t=5m

    Not if the woman in question happens to be hit-ho of the moneymen.

    Ladies should be treated like decent womenfolk.

    Hussies need to be treated accordingly.

    007 understood this. ho must go.

    Leave the dehumanization of opponents to the left. That kind of “she deserved it” attitude leads you to become your enemy.

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  175. Twinkie says:
    @Anon
    "I’m not knee jerk opposed to Trump, but a question I ask myself is: would Reagan have been caught speaking in public about women like that? I don’t think so."

    Had Reagan been born much later, yes. Reagan belonged to an earlier generation with different norms.
    Of course, not all members of the older generation were so discreet. LBJ was one vulgar guy. And Nixon, though more cautious in public, sure had a mouth on him. (Also, if older generation was more discreet about sexual matters, they were more bawdy about racial matters. I'll bet every pre-boomer and even some boomer politicians used the enword a bunch of times and made all sorts of jokes about womenfolk, arabs, mexicans, asians, and homos. And Jews. Those were the days. My dad was a political leftist but his 'casual racism' about every ethnic group used to kill me. It was like watching Sanford and Son.)

    Trump is of the Clinton/Dubya(once a wild man) generation. He grew up with different norms.

    Also, he was in business and entertainment for a long time, where such kind of behavior was the norm, where it hardly raised an eyebrow.

    What he once did as an entertainer shouldn't reflect on his role as politician.
    Also, there have been plenty of times when guys like McCain and Obama blew up and said awful nasty and vulgar things. The media covered up for them, so why all this stuff about Trump?

    What Trump said about Kelly could be taken in different ways. I personally don't care because she's no classy lady but a whore bimbo twerp. She aint no journalist. She a whornalist.

    PS. On immigration, what Trump and Coulter can do is stop saying that Mexicans are a bunch of rapists and crooks but emphasize that Mexico tends to send its bad people to America. They've said as much but in ways that implied MOST Mexicans are bad people when Mexers generally are not.

    They should say every nation has its good people and bad people. US has a lot of bad people too. It has its share of murderers, rapists, druggies, losers, morons, cheaters, and bums. Now, how would any nation like it if US were to send so many of its losers, killers, and nincompoops over there? It'd be like Cuba dumping its worst in the early 80s.

    Since Mexico has tended to sends its worst for so long, how about this compromise for the next 20 yrs. US will take anyone from the upper 10% of income bracket from Mexico while Mexico takes anyone in America's lower 25% of income bracket?
    That way, we would be open to Mexico. But to quality.

    Had Reagan been born much later, yes. Reagan belonged to an earlier generation with different norms.

    There are those of us who intend to keep “earlier… different norms” going and not let ourselves or families degenerate into that which we loathe. If you wish to throw your lot with a man lacking in character and gentlemanliness because he happens to tell you what you want to hear, that’s your business, but don’t tell the rest of us that this is okay because it’s the mode of the times.

    What Trump said about Kelly could be taken in different ways. I personally don’t care because she’s no classy lady but a whore bimbo twerp. She aint no journalist. She a whornalist.

    My idea of a conservative is someone who holds onto timeless values and does not allow himself to be molded by the coarse pop culture. If you think that the wickedness of your political opponents justifies your own crudeness, you are really no better than the people and ideas you claim to oppose.

    A gentleman is courteous, not just to his equal, but to his inferiors as well. That does not mean he cannot fight what he hates forcefully and passionately, but he does so gracefully… which also happens to be attractive to others and win the hearts and minds of the yet-to-be-swayed.

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    So what if Trump said some women are like pigs. Some are, and it doesn't reflect on all women.

    Women often say some men are like pigs and worse. But we understand that women don't mean ALL men. We don't hysterically call it a WAR ON MEN.
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  176. Jefferson says:

    Who will continue to financially support Black Lives Matter once George Soros dies? His kids? The Clintons? The CEO of Starbucks?

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    I was wondering the same thing about those supporting White Lives Matter once the Sailer's and Duke's and Jefferson's of the world pass on.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I expect that Soros will set up a foundation to ensure that the dissension and unrest he thrives upon will survive his passing.
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  177. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    —There are those of us who intend to keep “earlier… different norms” going and not let ourselves or families degenerate into that which we loathe. If you wish to throw your lot with a man lacking in character and gentlemanliness because he happens to tell you what you want to hear, that’s your business, but don’t tell the rest of us that this is okay because it’s the mode of the times.—

    —My idea of a conservative is someone who holds onto timeless values and does not allow himself to be molded by the coarse pop culture. If you think that the wickedness of your political opponents justifies your own crudeness, you are really no better than the people and ideas you claim to oppose.—

    Pop culture can be coarse and ugly, but it can also be direct and refreshing.
    Also, populist vulgarity sometimes gets at the truth.

    At any rate, you don’t treat trash like treasure. You call it trash and hurl it out.

    I don’t respect Trump, but he is right to trash the trash.
    And mass media are trash, from Fox to MSBC.
    Is Trump part of the problem of trash culture?
    Yes, but he’s doesn’t pretend otherwise.

    Obama’s dignified nice negro act is so phony. He is trash like the rest.
    And Jeb and his “illegals are an act of love” bulljivez. That is as funny as ‘asian women are the story of the bravery of love’. These tall white fellers are great unintentional comedians. How about “mujeres ilegales son la historia de la valentía del amor”?

    Anyway, if conservatism is about timeless values, it has to treat with respect what is of timeless worth but treat with disdain what is gutter trash.

    O’Malley acted ‘gentlemanly’ to a trashy ho, and it just made him like a total wuss.
    If you think conservative men should act like that, you are a ‘cuckservative’.
    Sanders acted courteous to the two black ho’s, and it looked pathetic.

    Sometimes you gotta tell the ho like it is.

    Even a priest can take so much from a wicked ho. He gets meaner than Randall McMurphy with Ratched.

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  178. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Twinkie

    Had Reagan been born much later, yes. Reagan belonged to an earlier generation with different norms.
     
    There are those of us who intend to keep "earlier... different norms" going and not let ourselves or families degenerate into that which we loathe. If you wish to throw your lot with a man lacking in character and gentlemanliness because he happens to tell you what you want to hear, that's your business, but don't tell the rest of us that this is okay because it's the mode of the times.

    What Trump said about Kelly could be taken in different ways. I personally don’t care because she’s no classy lady but a whore bimbo twerp. She aint no journalist. She a whornalist.
     
    My idea of a conservative is someone who holds onto timeless values and does not allow himself to be molded by the coarse pop culture. If you think that the wickedness of your political opponents justifies your own crudeness, you are really no better than the people and ideas you claim to oppose.

    A gentleman is courteous, not just to his equal, but to his inferiors as well. That does not mean he cannot fight what he hates forcefully and passionately, but he does so gracefully... which also happens to be attractive to others and win the hearts and minds of the yet-to-be-swayed.

    So what if Trump said some women are like pigs. Some are, and it doesn’t reflect on all women.

    Women often say some men are like pigs and worse. But we understand that women don’t mean ALL men. We don’t hysterically call it a WAR ON MEN.

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    So what if Trump said some women are like pigs. Some are, and it doesn’t reflect on all women.
     
    That's a weasel-like evasion. The issue is not about Trump bemoaning the poor nature of some women; he made a crude reference to menstruation of a specific journalist whose questions he found irritating to him (and for the record I have always found Megyn Kelly annoying a great deal from what little I have seen of her).

    That is not a gentleman, pure and simple. He is also obviously someone who can be angered or otherwise emotionally affected easily enough to say unwise things. In other words, he is immature and crass.

    I happen to like much of his message a great deal, and do like his blunt speaking on certain matters (including illegal immigration), but regardless of how sweet the message is, I would never support someone who lacks the basic dignity and character of a gentleman.

    We may all loathe feminism and we may all bemoan the weaker nature of women in many regards, but we ought to remember always that we - all of us - came to this earth by the grace of God and the labor pains of women. Always remember that someone who call "ho" is someone's mother, daughter or sister.
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  179. Twinkie says:
    @Anon
    So what if Trump said some women are like pigs. Some are, and it doesn't reflect on all women.

    Women often say some men are like pigs and worse. But we understand that women don't mean ALL men. We don't hysterically call it a WAR ON MEN.

    So what if Trump said some women are like pigs. Some are, and it doesn’t reflect on all women.

    That’s a weasel-like evasion. The issue is not about Trump bemoaning the poor nature of some women; he made a crude reference to menstruation of a specific journalist whose questions he found irritating to him (and for the record I have always found Megyn Kelly annoying a great deal from what little I have seen of her).

    That is not a gentleman, pure and simple. He is also obviously someone who can be angered or otherwise emotionally affected easily enough to say unwise things. In other words, he is immature and crass.

    I happen to like much of his message a great deal, and do like his blunt speaking on certain matters (including illegal immigration), but regardless of how sweet the message is, I would never support someone who lacks the basic dignity and character of a gentleman.

    We may all loathe feminism and we may all bemoan the weaker nature of women in many regards, but we ought to remember always that we – all of us – came to this earth by the grace of God and the labor pains of women. Always remember that someone who call “ho” is someone’s mother, daughter or sister.

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    Are you one of those twerps named "Eugene" or "Benedict"?

    And he meant her nose. You have a dirty mind.

    "Always remember that someone who call “ho” is someone’s mother, daughter or sister."

    So, we are supposed to honor twerking freaks who call eachother ho's and biatches all the time?

    Sotomayor on the hair-hatted hooligans:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxAKxFEl5_k

    , @Anon
    Lookie here.

    Tommy Sotomayor may be vulgar and crude but his is the only way to speak honestly about lots of black women.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-6ZrCBevjo

    As for Kelly, she a cheap tart bimbo slut who got her job probably by sleeping with powerful people.
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  180. Jefferson says:
    @Twinkie

    Blacks are about 13% of the population, but because they are so enormously over-represented in sports, entertainement, popular culture, and (ahem) “legal issues”
     
    Perhaps also because blacks lead a much more segregated lives than other non-whites?

    “Perhaps also because blacks lead a much more segregated lives than other non-whites?”

    Asian Americans, especially in California also lead very racially segregated lives. So much that a term had to be invented for it called the Asian bubble. The typical average Asian American in places like the Bay Area, Orange County, and the San Gabriel Valley only socialize with other Asians on their free time away from work. An example of this is the Youtube stars the Fung Brothers, they live in an Asian bubble where they only talk about Asian things and nothing else. That is why their Youtube fanbase is like 95-99 percent Asian. They have extremely few Caucasoid fans even though they reside in a majority Caucasoid nation. And that is because the topics they talk about do not appeal much to Non Asians.

    The Fung Brothers admitted that they left their hometown of Seattle because they thought there were too few Asians there, even though Seattle is 13 percent Asian which is higher than the national average. They did not feel racially at home until they moved into 67 percent Asian Monterey Park, California which is a suburb of Los Angeles.

    The American born Fung Brothers feel like they step foot in a foreign country whenever they come across a flyover state because they are not used to being in places where the percentage of Asians is not in the double digits like in the West Coast, Hawaii, and New York City. Iowa, Utah, Kentucky, Arizona, Florida etc would feel extremely foreign to them.

    I remember when The Fung Brothers made a video in Tampa, Florida and the first thing they noticed was how few Asians they see when compared to their residence in the Los Angeles metropolitan area.

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  181. 5371 says:
    @Dirk Dagger
    After meeting with Bernie Sanders about criminal justice and Black Lives Matter, Bernie Sanders has hired woman of color Symone Sanders as national press secretary.

    Hopefully Deion and Barry Sanders won’t be far behind.

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  182. Jefferson says:
    @midtown
    In the South, at least, many blacks live in towns and cities that are 30-50% black. It is still ignorant, but I could see how some might think that if all they are going on is what they see in their immediate area.

    “In the South, at least, many blacks live in towns and cities that are 30-50% black. It is still ignorant, but I could see how some might think that if all they are going on is what they see in their immediate area.”

    Reminds me of when DL Hughley said many years in a stand up act that growing up as a kid in the 1970s and early 1980s he used to believe Los Angeles was a majority Black city because he was so poor that he rarely ventured beyond the Compton and South Central areas.

    The poor African American underclass are the demographic most likely to believe they live in a majority Black country because they rarely come in close conversational contact with White people who do not work for law enforcement.

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    The poor African American underclass are the demographic most likely to believe they live in a majority Black country because they rarely come in close conversational contact with White people
     
    A friend from Jackson, MS (79% black) told me it was common to encounter blacks who believed the entire US reflected the demographics of Jackson.
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  183. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Twinkie

    So what if Trump said some women are like pigs. Some are, and it doesn’t reflect on all women.
     
    That's a weasel-like evasion. The issue is not about Trump bemoaning the poor nature of some women; he made a crude reference to menstruation of a specific journalist whose questions he found irritating to him (and for the record I have always found Megyn Kelly annoying a great deal from what little I have seen of her).

    That is not a gentleman, pure and simple. He is also obviously someone who can be angered or otherwise emotionally affected easily enough to say unwise things. In other words, he is immature and crass.

    I happen to like much of his message a great deal, and do like his blunt speaking on certain matters (including illegal immigration), but regardless of how sweet the message is, I would never support someone who lacks the basic dignity and character of a gentleman.

    We may all loathe feminism and we may all bemoan the weaker nature of women in many regards, but we ought to remember always that we - all of us - came to this earth by the grace of God and the labor pains of women. Always remember that someone who call "ho" is someone's mother, daughter or sister.

    Are you one of those twerps named “Eugene” or “Benedict”?

    And he meant her nose. You have a dirty mind.

    “Always remember that someone who call “ho” is someone’s mother, daughter or sister.”

    So, we are supposed to honor twerking freaks who call eachother ho’s and biatches all the time?

    Sotomayor on the hair-hatted hooligans:

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  184. Anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Twinkie

    So what if Trump said some women are like pigs. Some are, and it doesn’t reflect on all women.
     
    That's a weasel-like evasion. The issue is not about Trump bemoaning the poor nature of some women; he made a crude reference to menstruation of a specific journalist whose questions he found irritating to him (and for the record I have always found Megyn Kelly annoying a great deal from what little I have seen of her).

    That is not a gentleman, pure and simple. He is also obviously someone who can be angered or otherwise emotionally affected easily enough to say unwise things. In other words, he is immature and crass.

    I happen to like much of his message a great deal, and do like his blunt speaking on certain matters (including illegal immigration), but regardless of how sweet the message is, I would never support someone who lacks the basic dignity and character of a gentleman.

    We may all loathe feminism and we may all bemoan the weaker nature of women in many regards, but we ought to remember always that we - all of us - came to this earth by the grace of God and the labor pains of women. Always remember that someone who call "ho" is someone's mother, daughter or sister.

    Lookie here.

    Tommy Sotomayor may be vulgar and crude but his is the only way to speak honestly about lots of black women.

    As for Kelly, she a cheap tart bimbo slut who got her job probably by sleeping with powerful people.

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    As for Kelly, she a cheap tart bimbo slut
     
    Name-calling is usually a sign of a weak argument.
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  185. Truth says:
    @Anon
    "And on what do you base that he is an honest anything?"

    He is honest in style. In substance they are all liars.

    "There is rather wide gulf between groveling to the money men and making disgraceful and ungentlemanly remarks about a woman’s menstruation in public."

    Not if the woman in question happens to be hit-ho of the moneymen.

    Ladies should be treated like decent womenfolk.

    Hussies need to be treated accordingly.

    007 understood this. ho must go.

    https://youtu.be/T9sXFrAGYIQ?t=5m

    I’m afraid I have to go with the Twinkster on this one, Old Bean. Acting like a simple-minded Cad for an international audience is not “alpha.”

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  186. Truth says:
    @Dennis Dale
    I see. You can have your constitutional rights once you pay the tithe. But let's be honest, the right thing to do, having these women physically removed, is not a viable option politically. Can you imagine how quickly it would have sunk Sanders, had he called security and had these girls dragged off, braying and crying?
    So it's worse than a handful of determined fools being empowered by the myth of white racism to stop freedom of assembly; they can wreck your whole political campaign if you're not careful. So I'll say it again: you give yourself and the loud ladies too little credit. You're winning like f---.

    “I see. You can have your constitutional rights once you pay the tithe. But let’s be honest, the right thing to do, having these women physically removed, is not a viable option politically. Can you imagine how quickly it would have sunk Sanders, had he called security and had these girls dragged off, braying and crying?”

    I have to disagree with you there My friend. Those girls did not expect to get the microphone, and I don’t thin anyone in the crowd expected it either. He made a decision, as 50 years ago, Bernie probably interrupted a few lunches in Mobile himself. It would probably not have been my decision, but either way, I don’t how he suffers from not letting two kids, who were not on the agenda, onstage.

    “So it’s worse than a handful of determined fools being empowered by the myth of white racism to stop freedom of assembly; they can wreck your whole political campaign if you’re not careful. So I’ll say it again: you give yourself and the loud ladies too little credit. You’re winning like f—.”

    Myth? You don’t know white racists? I do. And I read their material here on a daily basis.

    No, I think “myth” is the wrong word here; “overstatement” would be more accurate. As it would be if I said the “myth” of black people taking over America. We are, because that is how YOU want it.

    There is a common, and, I thought, simple thread to most of my responses to your (in the larger sense, meaning ‘the Unzistas’)” THESE GODDAMNED N-s are bringing on the end of civilization” posts; which are, about %80 of what Mr. Sailer writes:

    You write about how it is unprecedented that someone would have the audacity to interrupt a politician speaking! I post 5 examples of it happening to Barry.
    You write about how it is unfathomable that someone would speak ebonics in a debate! I post video of how modern debate has a load of honk-ebonics for years.
    You write about how Every time a Kneegrow kills somebody, the other Kneegrows take his side! I post examples on how when some idiot cop shoots someone unarmed, driving away, or running, that vast majority of Unzistas make excuses for his “Dindu Nuffin” behavior.
    There is, my friend, a method to my madness. And the message is simple; no we are not entirely different, and no, black people do hold the key to your very ability to inhale oxygen. As Elanor Roosevelt once so brilliantly said:

    “Life is %5 what happens to you, and %95 how you react to it.”

    Mr. Sanders reacted in a certain way, regarding two silly little girls, and guess what; the world did not spin off its axis….

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democratic-presidential-hopeful-bernie-sanders-draws-huge-crowd-in-la/2015/08/11/97058012-3fff-11e5-8d45-d815146f81fa_gallery.html

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    Who argues like this? You can't possibly be trying to slip past us the notion the girls simply would have stood down if politely asked. The fact is they were asked, repeatedly, and physically imposed themselves on a frail old man until he relented. Then they reneged even on the agreement they forced upon him, by not giving the mike back. Were we watching the same event?
    Now: who else, in the current milieu, gets away with that? Indeed; Bernie made a token hire and is now regurgitating black lives talking points (and his mind is now right on immigration, perhaps the real goal of Soros in sending out the astroturfing Amazons).

    They knew they had two possibilities, both acceptable: either Bernie was going to give up the mike or they were going to get dragged off stage, making the Sanders campaign look racist for removing harmless black baby bodies. It's called provocation and, yes, there was an element of it in the lunch counter protests.
    You're supposed to say it isn't a denial of a constitutional right because only the government can do that. But the fact is the government can't do what your "little girls" manage to do by merely invoking their blackness and watching the earnest white liberals cower. Winning.

    Myth? You don’t know white racists? I do. And I read their material here on a daily basis.

    So now we see why you haunt the halls here. To find the "racists" and "racism" you can't find in daily life. But then you arrive and it's worse than you expected: the racists are making more sense than the anti-racists. So here, you're that heckler. Make it stop! Make it stop! Seriously, look at your definition of a racist: someone who believes bad things about black people. Someone who says bad things about black people. It's all predicated on the idea there can be nothing wrong with black people. Meanwhile, we nit-pick white behavior to absurd extremes. How can you not see how wrong you are? I don't care that you're offended. Being offended isn't an argument. Being black isn't an argument either.

    But you're showing real growth when you admit "racism" is "overstated". Still, many miles to go before enlightenment (you may want to stop now): the race problem is not exaggerated, but inverted: white people aren't the problem. The bigotry of white people isn't the problem. The actions of white people aren't the problem. The violence of white people isn't the problem.

    But all of this is secondary to the fact your cause is bullshit. That's the real problem. These people aren't trying to open up lunch counters, they're angry a thug didn't survive charging a cop on the street. We Shall Overcome...law, order, peace, prosperity.
    Winning, dude.

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  187. Corvinus says:
    @Jefferson
    Who will continue to financially support Black Lives Matter once George Soros dies? His kids? The Clintons? The CEO of Starbucks?

    I was wondering the same thing about those supporting White Lives Matter once the Sailer’s and Duke’s and Jefferson’s of the world pass on.

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  188. anon says: • Disclaimer
    @Twinkie

    Trump is a clown but given what has become of American politics, at least he’s an honest clown.
     
    And on what do you base that he is an honest anything?

    ‘Grace’ and ‘courtesy’ in today’s climate?

    That’s just puppets smiling and groveling before Adelson.
     
    You know, at some point you have to come down from the fantasy stage you constructed for yourself and live in the real world. There is rather wide gulf between groveling to the money men and making disgraceful and ungentlemanly remarks about a woman's menstruation in public.

    There is rather wide gulf between groveling to the money men and making disgraceful and ungentlemanly remarks about a woman’s menstruation in public.

    A wide and currently completely empty gulf.

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    A wide and currently completely empty gulf.
     
    Some people are wilfully blind, because they WANT to opt for the degenerate path. So they insist, in this case, that there are only two choices, the Establishment and the guy who makes a reference to menstruation to shut up an irritating female journalist.
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  189. 5371 says:
    @Corvinus
    I was wondering the same thing about those supporting White Lives Matter once the Sailer's and Duke's and Jefferson's of the world pass on.

    You think those gentlemen are currently handing out large sums of money to … whom?

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  190. Dennis Dale says: • Website
    @Truth
    "I see. You can have your constitutional rights once you pay the tithe. But let’s be honest, the right thing to do, having these women physically removed, is not a viable option politically. Can you imagine how quickly it would have sunk Sanders, had he called security and had these girls dragged off, braying and crying?"

    I have to disagree with you there My friend. Those girls did not expect to get the microphone, and I don't thin anyone in the crowd expected it either. He made a decision, as 50 years ago, Bernie probably interrupted a few lunches in Mobile himself. It would probably not have been my decision, but either way, I don't how he suffers from not letting two kids, who were not on the agenda, onstage.

    "So it’s worse than a handful of determined fools being empowered by the myth of white racism to stop freedom of assembly; they can wreck your whole political campaign if you’re not careful. So I’ll say it again: you give yourself and the loud ladies too little credit. You’re winning like f—."

    Myth? You don't know white racists? I do. And I read their material here on a daily basis.

    No, I think “myth” is the wrong word here; “overstatement” would be more accurate. As it would be if I said the “myth” of black people taking over America. We are, because that is how YOU want it.

    There is a common, and, I thought, simple thread to most of my responses to your (in the larger sense, meaning ‘the Unzistas’)” THESE GODDAMNED N-s are bringing on the end of civilization” posts; which are, about %80 of what Mr. Sailer writes:

    You write about how it is unprecedented that someone would have the audacity to interrupt a politician speaking! I post 5 examples of it happening to Barry.
    You write about how it is unfathomable that someone would speak ebonics in a debate! I post video of how modern debate has a load of honk-ebonics for years.
    You write about how Every time a Kneegrow kills somebody, the other Kneegrows take his side! I post examples on how when some idiot cop shoots someone unarmed, driving away, or running, that vast majority of Unzistas make excuses for his “Dindu Nuffin” behavior.
    There is, my friend, a method to my madness. And the message is simple; no we are not entirely different, and no, black people do hold the key to your very ability to inhale oxygen. As Elanor Roosevelt once so brilliantly said:

    “Life is %5 what happens to you, and %95 how you react to it."

    Mr. Sanders reacted in a certain way, regarding two silly little girls, and guess what; the world did not spin off its axis....

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democratic-presidential-hopeful-bernie-sanders-draws-huge-crowd-in-la/2015/08/11/97058012-3fff-11e5-8d45-d815146f81fa_gallery.html

    Who argues like this? You can’t possibly be trying to slip past us the notion the girls simply would have stood down if politely asked. The fact is they were asked, repeatedly, and physically imposed themselves on a frail old man until he relented. Then they reneged even on the agreement they forced upon him, by not giving the mike back. Were we watching the same event?
    Now: who else, in the current milieu, gets away with that? Indeed; Bernie made a token hire and is now regurgitating black lives talking points (and his mind is now right on immigration, perhaps the real goal of Soros in sending out the astroturfing Amazons).

    They knew they had two possibilities, both acceptable: either Bernie was going to give up the mike or they were going to get dragged off stage, making the Sanders campaign look racist for removing harmless black baby bodies. It’s called provocation and, yes, there was an element of it in the lunch counter protests.
    You’re supposed to say it isn’t a denial of a constitutional right because only the government can do that. But the fact is the government can’t do what your “little girls” manage to do by merely invoking their blackness and watching the earnest white liberals cower. Winning.

    Myth? You don’t know white racists? I do. And I read their material here on a daily basis.

    So now we see why you haunt the halls here. To find the “racists” and “racism” you can’t find in daily life. But then you arrive and it’s worse than you expected: the racists are making more sense than the anti-racists. So here, you’re that heckler. Make it stop! Make it stop! Seriously, look at your definition of a racist: someone who believes bad things about black people. Someone who says bad things about black people. It’s all predicated on the idea there can be nothing wrong with black people. Meanwhile, we nit-pick white behavior to absurd extremes. How can you not see how wrong you are? I don’t care that you’re offended. Being offended isn’t an argument. Being black isn’t an argument either.

    But you’re showing real growth when you admit “racism” is “overstated”. Still, many miles to go before enlightenment (you may want to stop now): the race problem is not exaggerated, but inverted: white people aren’t the problem. The bigotry of white people isn’t the problem. The actions of white people aren’t the problem. The violence of white people isn’t the problem.

    But all of this is secondary to the fact your cause is bullshit. That’s the real problem. These people aren’t trying to open up lunch counters, they’re angry a thug didn’t survive charging a cop on the street. We Shall Overcome…law, order, peace, prosperity.
    Winning, dude.

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    Who argues like this? You can’t possibly be trying to slip past us the notion the girls simply would have stood down if politely asked.
     
    I'm sure the Brits politely asked the Conlonists to stop throwing their tea into the harbor as well, Sport. In order to make an omelette you need to break a few eggs.


    The fact is they were asked, repeatedly, and physically imposed themselves on a frail old man until he relented.
     
    Oh so he was physically intimidated? Dennis, really? Its good we found out in advance; we don't want this guy getting near Putin in that case.


    Now: who else, in the current milieu, gets away with that? Indeed; Bernie made a token hire and is now regurgitating black lives talking points (and his mind is now right on immigration, perhaps the real goal of Soros in sending out the astroturfing Amazons).
     
    Then I guess those young folks got what they desired. Good for them, I like politically active young people. I guess it's true that fortune favors the bold. Now the question is, are you, Dennis Dale, going to curse them, or, emulate them in YOUR own life?


    They knew they had two possibilities, both acceptable: either Bernie was going to give up the mike or they were going to get dragged off stage, making the Sanders campaign look racist for removing harmless black baby bodies
     
    .

    So you're a fortune teller now? I'd get a 1-800 number if I were you. It can be quite lucrative.


    It’s called provocation and, yes, there was an element of it in the lunch counter protests
     
    And at the Boston Tea Party, and Pearl Harbor, and The Hartford Coal Mine Riot, and in 100 Anti-Vietnam rallies; you're right, what they did was quite American.

    So now we see why you haunt the halls here. To find the “racists” and “racism” you can’t find in daily life.
     
    I find them every day, hell, I hired one a year and a half ago; he's good at his job, and makes mine easier, so what do I give a shit.


    Seriously, look at your definition of a racist: someone who believes bad things about black people.
     
    Mindreader and fortune-teller. Hell of a combination.


    I don’t care that you’re offended.Being offended isn’t an argument. Being black isn’t an argument either.
     
    I'm not even slightly offended, Dennis, at this point I'm a little confused.



    But all of this is secondary: your cause is bullshit.
     
    In your own words Dennis, what exactly is my cause?
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  191. Truth says:
    @Dennis Dale
    Who argues like this? You can't possibly be trying to slip past us the notion the girls simply would have stood down if politely asked. The fact is they were asked, repeatedly, and physically imposed themselves on a frail old man until he relented. Then they reneged even on the agreement they forced upon him, by not giving the mike back. Were we watching the same event?
    Now: who else, in the current milieu, gets away with that? Indeed; Bernie made a token hire and is now regurgitating black lives talking points (and his mind is now right on immigration, perhaps the real goal of Soros in sending out the astroturfing Amazons).

    They knew they had two possibilities, both acceptable: either Bernie was going to give up the mike or they were going to get dragged off stage, making the Sanders campaign look racist for removing harmless black baby bodies. It's called provocation and, yes, there was an element of it in the lunch counter protests.
    You're supposed to say it isn't a denial of a constitutional right because only the government can do that. But the fact is the government can't do what your "little girls" manage to do by merely invoking their blackness and watching the earnest white liberals cower. Winning.

    Myth? You don’t know white racists? I do. And I read their material here on a daily basis.

    So now we see why you haunt the halls here. To find the "racists" and "racism" you can't find in daily life. But then you arrive and it's worse than you expected: the racists are making more sense than the anti-racists. So here, you're that heckler. Make it stop! Make it stop! Seriously, look at your definition of a racist: someone who believes bad things about black people. Someone who says bad things about black people. It's all predicated on the idea there can be nothing wrong with black people. Meanwhile, we nit-pick white behavior to absurd extremes. How can you not see how wrong you are? I don't care that you're offended. Being offended isn't an argument. Being black isn't an argument either.

    But you're showing real growth when you admit "racism" is "overstated". Still, many miles to go before enlightenment (you may want to stop now): the race problem is not exaggerated, but inverted: white people aren't the problem. The bigotry of white people isn't the problem. The actions of white people aren't the problem. The violence of white people isn't the problem.

    But all of this is secondary to the fact your cause is bullshit. That's the real problem. These people aren't trying to open up lunch counters, they're angry a thug didn't survive charging a cop on the street. We Shall Overcome...law, order, peace, prosperity.
    Winning, dude.

    Who argues like this? You can’t possibly be trying to slip past us the notion the girls simply would have stood down if politely asked.

    I’m sure the Brits politely asked the Conlonists to stop throwing their tea into the harbor as well, Sport. In order to make an omelette you need to break a few eggs.

    The fact is they were asked, repeatedly, and physically imposed themselves on a frail old man until he relented.

    Oh so he was physically intimidated? Dennis, really? Its good we found out in advance; we don’t want this guy getting near Putin in that case.

    Now: who else, in the current milieu, gets away with that? Indeed; Bernie made a token hire and is now regurgitating black lives talking points (and his mind is now right on immigration, perhaps the real goal of Soros in sending out the astroturfing Amazons).

    Then I guess those young folks got what they desired. Good for them, I like politically active young people. I guess it’s true that fortune favors the bold. Now the question is, are you, Dennis Dale, going to curse them, or, emulate them in YOUR own life?

    They knew they had two possibilities, both acceptable: either Bernie was going to give up the mike or they were going to get dragged off stage, making the Sanders campaign look racist for removing harmless black baby bodies

    .

    So you’re a fortune teller now? I’d get a 1-800 number if I were you. It can be quite lucrative.

    It’s called provocation and, yes, there was an element of it in the lunch counter protests

    And at the Boston Tea Party, and Pearl Harbor, and The Hartford Coal Mine Riot, and in 100 Anti-Vietnam rallies; you’re right, what they did was quite American.

    So now we see why you haunt the halls here. To find the “racists” and “racism” you can’t find in daily life.

    I find them every day, hell, I hired one a year and a half ago; he’s good at his job, and makes mine easier, so what do I give a shit.

    Seriously, look at your definition of a racist: someone who believes bad things about black people.

    Mindreader and fortune-teller. Hell of a combination.

    I don’t care that you’re offended.Being offended isn’t an argument. Being black isn’t an argument either.

    I’m not even slightly offended, Dennis, at this point I’m a little confused.

    But all of this is secondary: your cause is bullshit.

    In your own words Dennis, what exactly is my cause?

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    Well, we're just going in circles now, aren't we? Thanks for the dance. No hard feelings.
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  192. @Jefferson
    Who will continue to financially support Black Lives Matter once George Soros dies? His kids? The Clintons? The CEO of Starbucks?

    I expect that Soros will set up a foundation to ensure that the dissension and unrest he thrives upon will survive his passing.

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    If we increase the dissension and unrest a bit perhaps he might be encouraged to speed up the timetable on his own departure?
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  193. Curle says:
    @Jefferson
    "In the South, at least, many blacks live in towns and cities that are 30-50% black. It is still ignorant, but I could see how some might think that if all they are going on is what they see in their immediate area."

    Reminds me of when DL Hughley said many years in a stand up act that growing up as a kid in the 1970s and early 1980s he used to believe Los Angeles was a majority Black city because he was so poor that he rarely ventured beyond the Compton and South Central areas.

    The poor African American underclass are the demographic most likely to believe they live in a majority Black country because they rarely come in close conversational contact with White people who do not work for law enforcement.

    The poor African American underclass are the demographic most likely to believe they live in a majority Black country because they rarely come in close conversational contact with White people

    A friend from Jackson, MS (79% black) told me it was common to encounter blacks who believed the entire US reflected the demographics of Jackson.

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  194. Curle says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    I expect that Soros will set up a foundation to ensure that the dissension and unrest he thrives upon will survive his passing.

    If we increase the dissension and unrest a bit perhaps he might be encouraged to speed up the timetable on his own departure?

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  196. Harold says:
    @SPMoore8
    Well, that was pretty incredible.

    I don't know if I have seen such self pity, such a sense of entitlement, such pushy (literally) behavior ever, excluding the conduct of three year olds. I mean the way the one black chick starts crying when she says, "I had to fight through all of this just to say that my life matters!" And the way the other black chick was screaming at the event organizer, pushing him, and almost hitting him, to yield the microphone. I had no idea it was that chaotic and frankly violent.

    The word for this is: Indulgence. We are indulgent of this kind of foolishness, and these two gals, who might even be former members of a debate team, are used to getting their way, no matter how absurd and out of place their actions are.

    the way the one black chick starts crying when she says, “I had to fight through all of this just to say that my life matters!”

    As if any of those who have been killed (mostly justifiably) have been female, let alone light-skinned females. Ridiculous.

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  197. Dennis Dale says: • Website
    @Truth

    Who argues like this? You can’t possibly be trying to slip past us the notion the girls simply would have stood down if politely asked.
     
    I'm sure the Brits politely asked the Conlonists to stop throwing their tea into the harbor as well, Sport. In order to make an omelette you need to break a few eggs.


    The fact is they were asked, repeatedly, and physically imposed themselves on a frail old man until he relented.
     
    Oh so he was physically intimidated? Dennis, really? Its good we found out in advance; we don't want this guy getting near Putin in that case.


    Now: who else, in the current milieu, gets away with that? Indeed; Bernie made a token hire and is now regurgitating black lives talking points (and his mind is now right on immigration, perhaps the real goal of Soros in sending out the astroturfing Amazons).
     
    Then I guess those young folks got what they desired. Good for them, I like politically active young people. I guess it's true that fortune favors the bold. Now the question is, are you, Dennis Dale, going to curse them, or, emulate them in YOUR own life?


    They knew they had two possibilities, both acceptable: either Bernie was going to give up the mike or they were going to get dragged off stage, making the Sanders campaign look racist for removing harmless black baby bodies
     
    .

    So you're a fortune teller now? I'd get a 1-800 number if I were you. It can be quite lucrative.


    It’s called provocation and, yes, there was an element of it in the lunch counter protests
     
    And at the Boston Tea Party, and Pearl Harbor, and The Hartford Coal Mine Riot, and in 100 Anti-Vietnam rallies; you're right, what they did was quite American.

    So now we see why you haunt the halls here. To find the “racists” and “racism” you can’t find in daily life.
     
    I find them every day, hell, I hired one a year and a half ago; he's good at his job, and makes mine easier, so what do I give a shit.


    Seriously, look at your definition of a racist: someone who believes bad things about black people.
     
    Mindreader and fortune-teller. Hell of a combination.


    I don’t care that you’re offended.Being offended isn’t an argument. Being black isn’t an argument either.
     
    I'm not even slightly offended, Dennis, at this point I'm a little confused.



    But all of this is secondary: your cause is bullshit.
     
    In your own words Dennis, what exactly is my cause?

    Well, we’re just going in circles now, aren’t we? Thanks for the dance. No hard feelings.

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  198. […] Wait, no mention of the moment of silence for Michael Brown? Yeah, sure, but those women were too shrill for us to hear […]

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  199. Twinkie says:
    @Anon
    Lookie here.

    Tommy Sotomayor may be vulgar and crude but his is the only way to speak honestly about lots of black women.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-6ZrCBevjo

    As for Kelly, she a cheap tart bimbo slut who got her job probably by sleeping with powerful people.

    As for Kelly, she a cheap tart bimbo slut

    Name-calling is usually a sign of a weak argument.

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    Wait a minute! You've called me every name in the book, Oh Great Janus of the %1 income bracket...
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  200. Truth says:
    @Twinkie

    As for Kelly, she a cheap tart bimbo slut
     
    Name-calling is usually a sign of a weak argument.

    Wait a minute! You’ve called me every name in the book, Oh Great Janus of the %1 income bracket…

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  201. Twinkie says:
    @anon

    There is rather wide gulf between groveling to the money men and making disgraceful and ungentlemanly remarks about a woman’s menstruation in public.
     
    A wide and currently completely empty gulf.

    A wide and currently completely empty gulf.

    Some people are wilfully blind, because they WANT to opt for the degenerate path. So they insist, in this case, that there are only two choices, the Establishment and the guy who makes a reference to menstruation to shut up an irritating female journalist.

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  202. […] a month ago, poor old Bernie Sanders was feebly left speechless in Seattle by two fat angry black women who screamed him off his own […]

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