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From the Chronicle of Higher Education:

Yale Dean Is Suspended in Connection With Offensive Yelp Reviews

Yale University on Thursday suspended one of its deans in connection with a series of classist and sometimes racially charged reviews on the website Yelp, the Associated Press reports.

June Chu, the suspended administrator, didn’t immediately return calls or comments to the Associated Press on Thursday. Ms. Chu, dean of Pierson College, fell under scrutiny after the Yale Daily News reported she had used the crowdsourcing website to take shots at restaurants and businesses around New Haven, Conn.

It’s not uncommon for a professor’s online activities to cause outrage, but Ms. Chu is a bit of an anomaly in that her remarks were not on Facebook or Twitter, but rather Yelp. For the most part, the views expressed on that site focus on the quality of a business. It’s not a place where one might expect to find controversy, but Ms. Chu’s reviews were often offensive.

“To put it quite simply: if you are white trash, this is the perfect night out for you!” she wrote in one review of a Japanese restaurant.

Another good quote from Dean Chu:

“I am Asian, I know rice!”

Okay, it’s not exactly surprising that a diversicrat like Dean Chu, who is sort of a glorified resident adviser at a Yale dorm (and RAs tend to be the Shock Workers of the Anti-Microaggression Front), is an anti-white racist jerk.

But do we really need employers policing their employees’ Yelp reviews?

An anonymous commenter adds:

“June Chu’s hatred of White people is purely racial and has nothing to do with class/economics.”

If you actually look closely at this case, I think you have it backwards. And I say this as someone who is sympathetic to the view that much diversity-mongering/SJWism amounts to nothing more than proving that cishet white men are BAD.

In fact, I think this case is actually more interesting than people are letting on. For Dean Chu, it seems that being an SJW is “just a job”. I see NO sign of ideological SJWism in her yelp reviews. Instead, they seem to reveal her as she “really” is: a wannabe hipster snob with a high-class job. She plays that role in a distinctly Chinese-American way, but ultimately it is the snobbery that stands out.

If you read her reviews, she shows a disdain not only for low-class whites, but also low-class blacks and Asians. Her comment about a movie theater not being “sketch” (I think she spelled it exactly that way) is a dig at New Haven blacks. Her comment about the workers at a “Japanese” restaurant being Chinese is a dig a low-class Chinese workers. She is “allowed” to make this comment because she is Chinese herself, so it seems… But she is the RIGHT sort of Chinese person, the sort that has the right sort of job and the right place in society.

It seems that people are framing this story as involving either: 1) whether the left has to punish one of their own in order not to appear utterly hypocritical, or 2) (as Steve frames it above) whether it is actually a good thing that employers are monitoring online postings, even if they do so “non-ideologically”. But it really seems to me that this case aligns with another theme that Steve has pushed in many posts, that SJWism is really a career path. Dean Chu seems to be, in real life, a snob that feels justified in her snobbery because she has SUCCEEDED in her chosen career. She doesn’t need to actually believe that stuff in real life.

 
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  1. But do we really need employers policing their employees’ Yelp reviews?

    Of course not, but they are already policing the rest of social media, this is a natural extension of that.

    I think Yale figured if they wanted to have any claim at all to consistently promoting their “values” this low level, insignificant employee had to be punished. It would be interesting to see what they would have done if she had been a member of a different race though.

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    this low level, insignificant employee had to be punished
     
    A Yale residential college Dean is not "insignificant" or " low level." In my day the Dean was the authority figure with whom the students had the most contact and a mentor to many of them.
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  2. But do we really need employers policing their employees’ Yelp reviews?

    Good for the goose, good for the gander. We don’t need to speculate too long what would have happened if it had been a white male university employee complaining about “thugs” or somesuch.

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  3. I saw that and thought, eh, her opinions are a bit snobby, but I’m definitely not comfortable with these online witch hunts.

    One triumph of Trump was to break through the gotcha culture of death by one inopportune statement. Or so I thought.

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    • Replies: @International Jew

    One triumph of Trump was to break through the gotcha culture of death by one inopportune statement. Or so I thought.
     
    So I thought too. But for that he would have had to maintain just a bit of class. Instead, through his borderline insane behavior he's discrediting all us sane people who, at some level, support him.
  4. Just saying….But I see a disproportionate number of Yelp restaurant reviews written by young East Asian women. Meaning of Korean, Chinese, Taiwanese, Japanese extraction. You can tell by the small self photos they put up and their names.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I've noticed this too. A lot of East Asian American men also seem to be food bloggers. I don't know what to make of it. Perhaps their sex drives are sublimated into food cravings or something.
  5. Yale University on Thursday suspended one of its deans in connection with…

    Undoubtedly suspended with pay, so this is a paid vacation for her and adds to her SJW and liberal resumes. This will help her future job prospects.

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  6. Look on the bright side, she made a remark about white trash, rather than black trash, she probably would have been fired for that…

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Look on the bright side, she made a remark about white trash, rather than black trash, she probably would have been fired for that…"

    Asians don't see Black people as trash. Hence why the NBA and Hip Hop have an even bigger following in the Asian American community than in the White American conmunity.

    Asian American Millennials here in The Bay Area are all into Black culture like The Golden State Warriors and The Wu-Tang Clan.
  7. But do we really need employers policing their employees’ Yelp reviews?

    I’m going to agree with Lenin on this: worse is better. Let them all turn on one another. Let them spiral in tighter and tighter circles right down the drain of their own cultural revolution. It’s the only way to end this. We should hope it speeds up. In fact, I hope the Pepe, 4chan troll army types carry out lots of false flag outrage campaigns against anti-White cogs like Citizen Chu. Get them to turn on one another on social media until they don’t know what to believe anymore.

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  8. Calling Dr. Freud.

    For a second there, I read Jean Chu, Dean of Prison College – – – not Jean Chu, Dean of Pierson College.

    Truly, in the Year of Our Lord, 2017, the United States of Third World Bus Station is an open-air prison.

    Shackles on your mind. Shackles on your body. We owe the Hart-Celler Act of 1965 so much in the way of condign thanks for our present downcast state.

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  9. Look, I’ll be happy to call a truce on policing social network and internet postings, but if the rule is “Righties watch out”, then it’s fair game to apply that same rule to them.

    Anytime they want to quit, though…

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    • Replies: @anon
    I have to agree. Too many people on the right have the idea that, if we treat the left in a certain way, then the left might turn around and treat us the same way.

    Only problem with that is, they're going to treat us that way whether we fight back or not, so we might as well.

    On the other hand, you could argue that, if we don't, and we point out that we're not the kind of people to do that, we might convince people that our side is just better.

    That seems to be the basis of all the "free speech on campus" arguments we're going through now. I guess time will tell if it actually works.
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    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    From the article: Across the country, 10 percent of all married couples — about 11 million people — were wed to someone of a different race or ethnicity as of 2015, with the most common pairing a Hispanic husband and a white wife.

    I would not have suspected that. You learn something new every day.
  11. I don’t have an issue with online policing by employers AS LONG AS that is made clear to you before you take the job.

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    • Replies: @Hibernian
    I think by now it's clear to all of us before we take any job.
  12. @Barnard

    But do we really need employers policing their employees’ Yelp reviews?
     
    Of course not, but they are already policing the rest of social media, this is a natural extension of that.

    I think Yale figured if they wanted to have any claim at all to consistently promoting their "values" this low level, insignificant employee had to be punished. It would be interesting to see what they would have done if she had been a member of a different race though.

    this low level, insignificant employee had to be punished

    A Yale residential college Dean is not “insignificant” or ” low level.” In my day the Dean was the authority figure with whom the students had the most contact and a mentor to many of them.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Agreed. In my day, a "Dean's Excuse" was a thing of great power. No professor could dispute it. On the other hand, the college deans could also put you on probation, and sometimes did.
  13. Their fault. She is allowed to do it when I am. Not before. This is the only way. They want to get rid of free speech and inherent rights, let that be their end.

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  14. She actually insulted blacks as well. Something about typical New Haven residents. That is likely what they are really angry about.

    No one gets fired for insulting whites.

    But Yelp reviews and social media posts should not be offences worthy of termination.

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  15. Her comments were in bad taste, but consider the language used by the master/head of Pierson College in his letter addressing this:

    …I still had hope for the possibility of envisioning a path toward healing and reconciliation…Today I am grieving because I no longer can envision such a way forward.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/05/18/yale-dean-placed-on-leave-after-writing-about-white-trash-and-other-insulting-comments/?utm_term=.34c1eb899af2

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    • Replies: @Anon

    "Today I am grieving because I no longer can envision such a way forward." (--Master of Pierson College)
     
    Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you're grieving over this, sir, what do you do when your wife, or--even worse--your dog dies??
    , @Jack D
    SJW tears are delicious! Almost as tasty as Anthony Weiner's tears as he cried in front of the judge today. This was the nation that once produced Washington, Lee , TR, Patton. Now we produce pathetic losers like this.
  16. This woman posted overtly racist comments under her full real name and she’s a Dean at Yale? Consequences should be harsh. If a white dean posted a racial slur about others, I’m sure he/she would be fired, so the same consequence should apply here.

    An anonymous post, even if the author is outed, should face much lighter consequences.

    If a public school teacher has a normal adult night out and has alcoholic drinks which is quite normal acceptable adult behavior, he/she will get in trouble and even fired dishonorably if that is posted publicly. A Dean at Yale should be held to much higher standards and her comments of “white trash” are horrible.

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    • Replies: @new handle
    Recall that Halloween 2015 costume dust-up that drove her white colleague Erika Christakis (obviously a hater name these days!) away. There is something magic in the water, or dirt, in New Haven. The Yale motto is Lux et Veritas. Now the world awaits similar light and truth treatment for Chu.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/after-yale-halloween-email-black-students-alumni-say-racial-tensions-linger-elite-ivy-2176186
  17. Social media is poison–and will be the death knell for many who don’t know better. I’ve read her comments, as compiled at the Yale Daily News, and they are immature. She’s also quite confused about her “identity,” as she characterizes herself as Asian, Asian-American, and Chinese in different postings.

    Anyone employed in a position dealing face-to-face with the public (e.g. teachers, police officers) that relies on an assumption of trust and integrity should not be expressing opinions on social media or review aggregator sites such as Yelp.

    She’s obviously been hired by Yale as a professional Asian. Her opinions about local New Haven businesses is hurtful to the town-gown relationship, which is why Yale suspended her (vanity-signaling to the local business community).

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    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Social media is poison–and will be the death knell for many who don’t know better.

    True. Social media as it now exists will have to die off quickly if anyone's going to be left standing. I predict there will be several social media related outrages that will drive people behind pay walls, over to private apps or away from online chatting altogether. Maybe an epidemic of firings will bring about some landmark court ruling? Something's got to give when it comes to this stuff.

  18. But do we really need employers policing their employees’ Yelp reviews?

    No. And this is going to end up hurting whites, men, christians, and conservatives far more than leftists like Chu.

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    • Replies: @Anonym
    No. And this is going to end up hurting whites, men, christians, and conservatives far more than leftists like Chu.

    No it won't. We are used to the witch hunts. Do you think any of us are going to use our real name to write a review saying something like "This burger king is ghetto and staffed by $ETHNICSLUR."? We wouldn't even say it anonymously.
    , @27 year old
    We should push for it to be illegal to fire based on social media activity - wrongful termination. If it's illegal to fire someone for being gay, it should be illegal to fire someone over a Facebook post.

    And European style labor laws in general, like mandatory minimum of 6 weeks vacation. Although I can see how that might backfire - liberal professionals in the fake economy get the benefit but to make up the cost business squeezes real workers even harder

    , @Lot
    95% of Yelp reviews around here are written by hipsters or rich young white women.
  19. @HBD Guy
    Take a look at this article about interracial marriage.

    http://www.sfchronicle.com/nation/article/As-interracial-marriage-spreads-fault-lines-are-11157090.php?google_editors_picks=true

    From the article: Across the country, 10 percent of all married couples — about 11 million people — were wed to someone of a different race or ethnicity as of 2015, with the most common pairing a Hispanic husband and a white wife.

    I would not have suspected that. You learn something new every day.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I see Hispanic husband - white wife couples in daily life, but not at all in the media.

    When I was a kid 50 years ago, we hung around a lot with a family with a Spanish surname: Larry was a well-spoken Mexican-American guy with a good job as a corporate salesman for Kraft who had married my mom's first husband's (my mom's first husband was killed on Iwo Jima in 1945) Swedish-American aunt's daughter.

    , @Daniel Chieh
    “There’s no clear answer in my view,” said Jennifer Lee, a sociology professor at UC Irvine and an expert in immigration and race. “What I suspect is happening are Western ideals about what feminity is and what masculinity is.”

    You have to be this educated to be this dumb. Its not only "Western" ideals, anyway. While I'm sure Eastern ideals credit education a bit higher, I can't think of any widespread culture that praises huge, strong women and weedy, weak men. Please, enlighten me.

    , @newrouter
    "the most common pairing a Hispanic husband and a white wife."

    lucy and desi arnez
    , @Jack Hanson
    Is this because John Marquez labels himself "Hispanic" but Sophia Alvarez lists herself as "White"?
    , @Triumph104
    Wiki has a neat interracial marriage chart for 2008. 51.4% of white women who married "interracially" married an Hispanic man. 46.1% of white men who married "interracially" married an Hispanic woman.

    83.3% of Hispanic men who marry "interracially" married white women and 77.5% of Hispanic women who marry "interracially" married white men.

    White wife, Hispanic husband examples are Ted Cruz and his wife, Jeff Bezos' mother and stepfather, and Aaron Hernandez's parents.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States
    , @Autochthon
    The glaring flaw in this logic is that the ONLY "ethnicity" anyone keeps any records of is "Hispanic." Imagine if the CDC kept statistics of no diseases except HIV and then claimed HIV was the most common viral disease: more common than influenza or even the common cold. It's not remotely serious.

    It's actually even stupider than that, because a race (white) is being conflated with an ethnicity (Hispanic); apples and oranges and all that. Millions and millions of whites are Hispanic, so to say "whites and Hispanics" are in any way different and more noteworthy than, say, "Orientals and Ainu" or "whites and Slavs" is silly.

    I'll warrant perhaps the most common inter-ethnic pairings in the U.S.A. are between Germanic persons and Celtic persons because of the great numbers of the two ethnicities and their long history together here.

    The Hispanic nonsense, a scam
    for cash and prizes for yet another group wanting to distance itself from Europeans for that purpose, has long since got out of hand. If we wish to talk anout Amerindians or mestizos in these contexts, that makes some sense, but this "Hispanic" and "Latin" nonsense serves no purpose but to confuse and (for those of us paying attention, who know better) incite eye-rolling and laughter.

  20. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    is an anti-white racist jerk

    Not again. I’m the only true race-ist.

    By the way, I’m guessing she picked up such classist views from elite whites and Jews.

    Sneer at Les Deplorables.

    I think it also goes back to Confucian attitudes that look down on the uneducated.

    Cultural Revolution was horrible, but we can sort of understand why so many Chinese were more than happy to smash the educated class. Chinese have a long history of elite snobbery.

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "By the way, I’m guessing she picked up such classist views from elite whites and Jews."

    The vast majority of people in Mainland China would be considered to be living below the poverty and not middle class by American standards. Yet I doubt she sees the mass Chinese peasant underclass as Yellow trash.

    June Chu's hatred of White people is purely racial and has nothing to do with class/economics.
  21. @Forbes
    Social media is poison--and will be the death knell for many who don't know better. I've read her comments, as compiled at the Yale Daily News, and they are immature. She's also quite confused about her "identity," as she characterizes herself as Asian, Asian-American, and Chinese in different postings.

    Anyone employed in a position dealing face-to-face with the public (e.g. teachers, police officers) that relies on an assumption of trust and integrity should not be expressing opinions on social media or review aggregator sites such as Yelp.

    She's obviously been hired by Yale as a professional Asian. Her opinions about local New Haven businesses is hurtful to the town-gown relationship, which is why Yale suspended her (vanity-signaling to the local business community).

    Social media is poison–and will be the death knell for many who don’t know better.

    True. Social media as it now exists will have to die off quickly if anyone’s going to be left standing. I predict there will be several social media related outrages that will drive people behind pay walls, over to private apps or away from online chatting altogether. Maybe an epidemic of firings will bring about some landmark court ruling? Something’s got to give when it comes to this stuff.

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    • Replies: @Hibernian
    Those of us who have common first and last names have a degree of protection. It helps to observe a few taboos, and post articles by educated Tory conservatives from the National Review, etc., instead of one's own Archie Bunkerish rantings. This woman did not exactly exhibit an Ivy League IQ getting caught.
    , @Anon

    Social media as it now exists will have to die off quickly if anyone’s going to be left standing.
     
    Wish I could agree, but many people--Social Grievance Types in particular--play the medium like a Stradivarius. They exhibit a delicately-calibrated sense of what will fly, and in what context.

    BTW, did you know that the Stradivarius was actually invented by an African? Then the man come and steal it away.

    , @Kevin C.

    Something’s got to give when it comes to this stuff.
     
    How so? Perhaps that "something" that will give is the ideas of "free speech" and "privacy". Consider the traditional Medieval village, or small town, where everyone knows everyone, and reputations can be made or broken by single actions and last generations. It's like that old joke with the punchline "but you screw one goat…". There are certain things you just don't say in such areas, lines and taboos you do not cross, unless you want to end up driven out or killed for being a heretic or a blasphemer or a witch.

    So maybe what we're seeing is, thanks to the Internet, the "global village" developing the same dynamic, where saying the wrong thing will follow you the rest of your life. Perhaps we'll adapt to social media by learning to only speak the proper pious platitudes of our global village, and keep our true opinions to ourselves when they tend toward "heresy".
  22. Remember Steve that the current anti-white establishment began with the promise of judging by content of character rather than skin color. Since then it has turned into a full-on attempt at white genocide through miscegenation, wealth transfer and lopsided immigration policies in white countries not reflected overseas.

    So too, awakening our people and getting our countries back will probably begin with crushing the anti-whitism first, no?

    I still think it’s an error to use the cult-Marx term “racist”.

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    • Replies: @Dissident

    I still think it’s an error to use the cult-Marx term “racist”.
     
    I agree. Likewise for "gay" as a euphemism for homosexual*; "homophobia"; "transgender" and any number of other Cult-Marx/SJW/Goodwhite weaponized propaganda terms. Unless placing these within quotation marks or otherwise making it clear that I am not acknowledging them as legitimate, I make a point to avoid all such terms. To do otherwise is to concede the doctrinal assertions that such terms represent; to acquiesce to the intellectual, cultural and moral tyranny that said terms affirm and perpetuate. In pointing-out that the side who gains control over the language has already won, I would hardly be the first.

    What does "racist" even mean? (Other than an epithet used to discredit and silence anyone who dares to dissent from the prevailing orthodoxy, that is.) How many of the lemmings who parrot the term could even define it?

    (*Or perhaps more accurately for brazen, promiscuous, buggering Sodomite or similar; for "gay" symbolizes far more than mere homosexuality, per se-- much as even that is manifestly non-normative and less-than-wholesome.)

    Apropos, here's something from Teen Vogue that caught my attention while perusing Google News:

    White Male Terrorists Are an Issue We Should Discuss

    Little Royce Mann would surely concur.
  23. @TomSchmidt
    From the article: Across the country, 10 percent of all married couples — about 11 million people — were wed to someone of a different race or ethnicity as of 2015, with the most common pairing a Hispanic husband and a white wife.

    I would not have suspected that. You learn something new every day.

    I see Hispanic husband – white wife couples in daily life, but not at all in the media.

    When I was a kid 50 years ago, we hung around a lot with a family with a Spanish surname: Larry was a well-spoken Mexican-American guy with a good job as a corporate salesman for Kraft who had married my mom’s first husband’s (my mom’s first husband was killed on Iwo Jima in 1945) Swedish-American aunt’s daughter.

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    • Replies: @anon
    I see Hispanic husband – white wife couples in daily life, but not at all in the media.

    There was I Love Lucy.

    I can think of two off the top of my head that I've known. One couple seems pretty happy, while in the other, the guy ended up beating up the woman so badly she had to be hospitalized and ended up becoming a domestic abuse activist.

    Interestingly enough, the couple on I Love Lucy would have been somewhere in the middle of those two poles.
    , @Jefferson
    "I see Hispanic husband – white wife couples in daily life,"

    White women who date Los Angeles Mexican men are mostly White trash broads.

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    Most people Americans call Hispanic don't look like Desi Arnaz; they look like Hugo Chavez, or some of the more obscure extras in "Apocalypto." Mayans and Aztecs are not out-marrying much with anybody, much less whites.

    Wasn't Desi Cuban? I had a Cuban friend politely advise me, en route to a child's baptism, that Cubans do not like to be referred to as "Hispanic" or "Latino." But this was 20 years ago.
    , @The Alarmist

    "I see Hispanic husband – white wife couples in daily life, but not at all in the media."
     
    Does Jimmy Smits count? He's done a number of these, though mostly boyfriend-girlfriend level relationships, but married to a decidedly european-descent chick when he played a Presidential candidate in the West Wing, with the "bad guy" (WEM) opponent being played by Alan Alda, of all people.
  24. If Yale won’t do so, this woman should fire herself. I wonder how many of the soldiers who died in the Second World War destroying the Japanese military that raped and slaughtered its way across her country of origin she would consider “white trash” and “morons.” Her brilliant Chinese ancestors were totally unable to stop them; we did it for them, at huge expense in blood and treasure. Madame, have you no decency?

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  25. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Polichinello
    Look, I'll be happy to call a truce on policing social network and internet postings, but if the rule is "Righties watch out", then it's fair game to apply that same rule to them.

    Anytime they want to quit, though...

    I have to agree. Too many people on the right have the idea that, if we treat the left in a certain way, then the left might turn around and treat us the same way.

    Only problem with that is, they’re going to treat us that way whether we fight back or not, so we might as well.

    On the other hand, you could argue that, if we don’t, and we point out that we’re not the kind of people to do that, we might convince people that our side is just better.

    That seems to be the basis of all the “free speech on campus” arguments we’re going through now. I guess time will tell if it actually works.

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    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    The evidence is growing that liberalism only works amongst White men or at least with White men setting the tone and being the final arbiter. We can never go back to the way it was before we unilaterally disarmed but we might be able to earn the grudging respect of the other squabbling factions by being the fairest and most cool-headed in the Blade Runner dystopia of our near future. We might get enough of the others to agree things work better when we run things. The future's going to be a huge pain in the ass for Whitey either way.
    , @Wally
    We'll stop telling the truth about the left when they stop lying about us.
  26. Most Japanese restaurants in America are operated by Chinese or Vietnamese. They are best to be avoided. Japanese food, in Japan, is the world’s best food.

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    • Replies: @Lot

    Most Japanese restaurants in America are operated by Chinese or Vietnamese.
     
    And staffed by Mexicans.

    They are best to be avoided.
     
    Chopping up raw fish and rolling it in rice is not rocket science. I've had plenty of good sushi made by Chinese and Mexicans, who have been eating raw seafood in the form of ceviche and raw oysters for a long time.

    Mexicans also make plenty of fine Toyotas under Japanese supervision.
  27. @Guy de Champlagne

    But do we really need employers policing their employees’ Yelp reviews?

     

    No. And this is going to end up hurting whites, men, christians, and conservatives far more than leftists like Chu.

    No. And this is going to end up hurting whites, men, christians, and conservatives far more than leftists like Chu.

    No it won’t. We are used to the witch hunts. Do you think any of us are going to use our real name to write a review saying something like “This burger king is ghetto and staffed by $ETHNICSLUR.”? We wouldn’t even say it anonymously.

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  28. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Steve Sailer
    I see Hispanic husband - white wife couples in daily life, but not at all in the media.

    When I was a kid 50 years ago, we hung around a lot with a family with a Spanish surname: Larry was a well-spoken Mexican-American guy with a good job as a corporate salesman for Kraft who had married my mom's first husband's (my mom's first husband was killed on Iwo Jima in 1945) Swedish-American aunt's daughter.

    I see Hispanic husband – white wife couples in daily life, but not at all in the media.

    There was I Love Lucy.

    I can think of two off the top of my head that I’ve known. One couple seems pretty happy, while in the other, the guy ended up beating up the woman so badly she had to be hospitalized and ended up becoming a domestic abuse activist.

    Interestingly enough, the couple on I Love Lucy would have been somewhere in the middle of those two poles.

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  29. OT: I just saw this on Twitter:

    Headline: “Exclusive: The political testament of Marion Maréchal-Le Pen”

    And Eugénie Bastié’s summary: “The victorious strategy lies in an alliance between the conservative bourgeoisie and the popular classes [farmers & blue collar workers]“.

    The Sailer Strategy? The Hitler Strategy? The Reagan Strategy?

    Edit: I modified the Twitter link so it wouldn’t hog space here with its huge image:

    https://*.com/EugenieBastie/status/864770870031548416

    Just replace the asterisk with “twitter” to see it.

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    Should Employers Police Their Hirelings’ Yelp Reviews?

    The answer:

    Sane employers shouldn’t but in a sane society it shouldn’t matter either way.

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  31. @TomSchmidt
    From the article: Across the country, 10 percent of all married couples — about 11 million people — were wed to someone of a different race or ethnicity as of 2015, with the most common pairing a Hispanic husband and a white wife.

    I would not have suspected that. You learn something new every day.

    “There’s no clear answer in my view,” said Jennifer Lee, a sociology professor at UC Irvine and an expert in immigration and race. “What I suspect is happening are Western ideals about what feminity is and what masculinity is.”

    You have to be this educated to be this dumb. Its not only “Western” ideals, anyway. While I’m sure Eastern ideals credit education a bit higher, I can’t think of any widespread culture that praises huge, strong women and weedy, weak men. Please, enlighten me.

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    • Replies: @Stationary Feast
    I have vague memories of an African guy saying he prefers women who are strong enough to do farm work and explicitly contrasted this with Western notions of what a hot wife looks like. Not sure what the women want, but I doubt they want weak men.
  32. @TomSchmidt
    From the article: Across the country, 10 percent of all married couples — about 11 million people — were wed to someone of a different race or ethnicity as of 2015, with the most common pairing a Hispanic husband and a white wife.

    I would not have suspected that. You learn something new every day.

    “the most common pairing a Hispanic husband and a white wife.”

    lucy and desi arnez

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "lucy and desi arnez"

    Alex Rodriguez has dated way more White women than Desi Arnez. When I think of Hispanic male/White female I think of Alex Rodriguez first and his many relationships with the likes of Kate Hudson and Torrie Wilson for example.
  33. But do we really need employers policing their employees’ Yelp reviews?

    That’s how the new totalitarianism is supposed to work ie., if you say anything that progressives find “racist,” “sexist,” etc., or otherwise ideologically out-of-sync with acceptable (as they deem it) socio-cultural & political discourse (or pretty just anytime you say anything that the government and/or rich people don’t like), then your employer will be notified, and you will lose access to the little green tickets we use to pay for food & shelter. But you won’t actually be housed in a public penal institution, so we still have Freedom of Speech! And as always, if you disagree, then you’re a nazi.

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    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Agree with a lot of what you said, but free speech doesn't mean there aren't consequences. You may be free to scream 'n*gger' in the middle of Harlem at 2am or lie about someone and cause them to get lose their job, but if they in turn get offended and put a foot where the sun don't shine, or sue you for defamation, then that's your problem.

    The problem with the current situation is that the government and other groups like the SPLC, etc have no business regulating it.

  34. @anon
    I have to agree. Too many people on the right have the idea that, if we treat the left in a certain way, then the left might turn around and treat us the same way.

    Only problem with that is, they're going to treat us that way whether we fight back or not, so we might as well.

    On the other hand, you could argue that, if we don't, and we point out that we're not the kind of people to do that, we might convince people that our side is just better.

    That seems to be the basis of all the "free speech on campus" arguments we're going through now. I guess time will tell if it actually works.

    The evidence is growing that liberalism only works amongst White men or at least with White men setting the tone and being the final arbiter. We can never go back to the way it was before we unilaterally disarmed but we might be able to earn the grudging respect of the other squabbling factions by being the fairest and most cool-headed in the Blade Runner dystopia of our near future. We might get enough of the others to agree things work better when we run things. The future’s going to be a huge pain in the ass for Whitey either way.

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    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Liberalism yes and at the same time homogeneity allowing reliability of expectations to justify relaxing rules or going by the spirit rather than the letter of the law.
    We had a library where people would bring in whole meals to eat as they browsed online. There was never a problem. Noise was minimized and all messes were completely cleaned up, automatically, without a specific command. It was against posted rules to eat but no harm was being done so it was tolerated.
    Enter diversity. Whereas before people respected and obeyed the librarians, even though there was little to obey, whenever the new breed of patron required intervention (which was often) they would reflexively resist. An emerging theme of this resistance was sealawyering. Nobody ever apologized or admitted to wrongdoing, no matter how obvious. It was expected that TV courtroom rules applied and all claims had to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. At all times they demanded to "know exactly where it said" (in official rules) they could not record their mixtape next to the children's section.
    The diversity led quickly and consciously to a rigid, by-the-book regime, in what had been a culturally ordered (and very orderly!) space, but of course without effect on the consistently resistant newcomers.
    Diversity kills culture and replaces it with codes of conduct, diversity kills community and replaces it with random groupings.
  35. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Drudge May 19

    This is the most entertaining bunch of headlines. What a joke the world has become.

    http://www.drudgereport.com/

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    • Replies: @anon
    I clicked on the headline "Brazilian 'mermaids' ride quirky fashion wave".

    Boy, did that not turn out how I was hoping...
    , @Lot
    From one article:

    The secret device was used in March by a team of FBI and Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in Metro Detroit to find Rudy Carcamo-Carranza, 23, a twice-deported restaurant worker from El Salvador whose only brushes with the law involve drunken driving allegations and a hit-and-run crash.
     
    Metro Detroit is known for its extreme labor shortages. I'm sure it is worth keeping this drunk driver with a hit-and-run record, where else will the restaurant owner find workers?
  36. I’ll bet that absent ‘Trump and the Deplorables’, this wouldn’t have happened. She’d still be working.

    I think it’s a sign they’re slightly nervous.

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    • Replies: @Karl
    39 mobi > I think it’s a sign they’re slightly nervous.


    they also noticed what happened to Emily Rose Nauert, and to Eric Michael Clanton

    Even before Trump, there was Sabrina Rubin-Erdely at the wrong end of a $million civil judgement..... They noticed it.
  37. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    ROTFL

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-expands-dna-testing-xinjiang-muslims-security-crackdown-human-rights-watch-a7739791.html

    1. Diversity is a strength and hurray for Inclusion(of Han Chinese imperialists) into Xinjiang.

    2. No need to worry about DNA testing. Race is just a social construct, and you can’t tell a Uighur from a Chinese by looking at DNA. LOL.

    Still, Chinese elites are not as scummy as EU elites.

    Chinese elites invoke ‘diversity’ and use political repression & surveillance to make things better for Chinese in Xinjiang.

    EU elites invoke ‘diversity and use political repression & surveillance to make things worse for Europeans in their own nations.

    But since the elites control Pop Culture and PC(via mass education and media), it seems the majority of European masses have been duped into White Genocide.

    Btw, why should this be a ‘human rights issue’ in the eyes of progs?
    After all, Chinese are doing this for Diversity.
    If such means were used against European ‘far right’ in EU, progs would cheer.

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    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    It would be nice if the Uighurs stopped trying to beat up and kill Chinese constantly. Its been nearly a thousand years and they can't give it a rest.
  38. My favorite quote of hers from one of her reviews? “I am Asian, I know rice!”

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  39. @HBD Guy
    Look on the bright side, she made a remark about white trash, rather than black trash, she probably would have been fired for that...

    “Look on the bright side, she made a remark about white trash, rather than black trash, she probably would have been fired for that…”

    Asians don’t see Black people as trash. Hence why the NBA and Hip Hop have an even bigger following in the Asian American community than in the White American conmunity.

    Asian American Millennials here in The Bay Area are all into Black culture like The Golden State Warriors and The Wu-Tang Clan.

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    • Replies: @Lot

    Asian American Millennials here in The Bay Area are all into Black culture like The Golden State Warriors and The Wu-Tang Clan.
     
    I see plenty of high school age asian boys wear baggy saggy rap clothing, but they seem to almost all grow out of it. I don't even see it much on the campuses of good colleges, much less grown adults.
    , @Anonymous
    Aiggers are even more ridiculous than wiggers.
  40. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    I don’t have a problem with it. They would do it to us in a heartbeat, so we must not hesitate to do it to them as well. Failure to retaliate to an affront only invites future affronts. We must, as a people, get over our blind loyalty to abstract concepts and lofty, but naive, ideals while our opponents show no such proclivity. Sticking to principles not held by our opponents only serves to ensure our eventual defeat. In that spirit, I absolutely oppose witch-hunts targeted against our people but support them against our enemy; if you have a problem with that, you should realize that this is exactly what our enemy has done to us and that is the reason they have prevailed so far.

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  41. The benefit of applying PC rules to anti-white acts is it provokes SJWs into making outrageous claims that increase the current low-but-growing level of white solidarity.

    In particular, SJWs like to claim “There is no such thing as reverse racism. It is impossible to be racist against whites.” It also leads SJWs to try to defend the anti-white statements on their merits. It moves the conversation away from “Are the police shooting too many innocent black babies with their hands up?” to “Is it OK for elite Ivy League minorities to toss insults at ‘white trash’”?

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    @Anon
    Drudge May 19

    This is the most entertaining bunch of headlines. What a joke the world has become.

    http://www.drudgereport.com/

    I clicked on the headline “Brazilian ‘mermaids’ ride quirky fashion wave”.

    Boy, did that not turn out how I was hoping…

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  43. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Seems as though it wasn’t Yale policing her per se, but a student working at the student paper writing about it, who was thinking in terms of actual racism, and not yet learned enough in the intricacies of who? whom? Once it was out of the bag, Yale had to do damage control if a racist writing could be attributed to a dean. The admins probably could give a damn less about whether someone was actually racist against whites.

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  44. @newrouter
    "the most common pairing a Hispanic husband and a white wife."

    lucy and desi arnez

    “lucy and desi arnez”

    Alex Rodriguez has dated way more White women than Desi Arnez. When I think of Hispanic male/White female I think of Alex Rodriguez first and his many relationships with the likes of Kate Hudson and Torrie Wilson for example.

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  45. @Guy de Champlagne

    But do we really need employers policing their employees’ Yelp reviews?

     

    No. And this is going to end up hurting whites, men, christians, and conservatives far more than leftists like Chu.

    We should push for it to be illegal to fire based on social media activity – wrongful termination. If it’s illegal to fire someone for being gay, it should be illegal to fire someone over a Facebook post.

    And European style labor laws in general, like mandatory minimum of 6 weeks vacation. Although I can see how that might backfire – liberal professionals in the fake economy get the benefit but to make up the cost business squeezes real workers even harder

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    • Replies: @Anon

    If it’s illegal to fire someone for being gay, it should be illegal to fire someone over a Facebook post.
     
    Well now there's a syllogism I didn't expect to see.
  46. @weyyar
    Most Japanese restaurants in America are operated by Chinese or Vietnamese. They are best to be avoided. Japanese food, in Japan, is the world's best food.

    Most Japanese restaurants in America are operated by Chinese or Vietnamese.

    And staffed by Mexicans.

    They are best to be avoided.

    Chopping up raw fish and rolling it in rice is not rocket science. I’ve had plenty of good sushi made by Chinese and Mexicans, who have been eating raw seafood in the form of ceviche and raw oysters for a long time.

    Mexicans also make plenty of fine Toyotas under Japanese supervision.

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    • Replies: @Hibernian
    I traded my American assembled (in Indiana) Subaru with a Japanese engine and transmission for a Honda built in Ohio with engine and transmission also built in Ohio. That's progress.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    You're both correct. Rolling is not rocket science, and Japan doesn't have the world's best cigars. However, there is a lot going on with sushi before the rolling stage, starting with the guys who vett the fishes. This is not even a matter of skill as the guys who live in the US are never even exposed to what they have to look for/do/taste. Anyway, sushi is only a very small part of Japanese cuisine.

    But I would refrain from calling Japanese cuisine the world's best. Eating it occassionally makes it taste amazing, but it doesn't scale so well in time or quantity.
    , @Jack D
    Ceviche is more Peruvian than Mexican and is not raw - the fish is "cooked" with the acid in the citrus juice. I would rather die than eat a raw oyster in Mexico. In fact if I ate a raw oyster in Mexico I probably would die, or at least get pretty sick. Oysters are filter feeders so if they are filtering sewage contaminated water then they accumulate human bacteria, viruses, etc.

    Japanese are known for their obsessive cleanliness and attention to detail. Mexicans and Chinese - not so much.

    If you think sushi is just chopping up some raw fish then watch Jiro Dreams of Sushi . Top grade sushi is just chopped raw fish in the same way that Petrus is just fermented grape juice or a Rembrandt painting is just some pigment smeared onto a piece of canvas.
    , @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    My 5 yr old son once asked, "why is all pizza made by brown people? Is it from their country?"
    Out loud, at a Mellow Mushroom. I was proud
  47. I was reading an article saying that “now corporations realize that cultural fit is often more important than technical competence in filling jobs.”

    Which made me think this is cover for weeding out bad thinkers, wreckers, and noticers…

    So I did a couple of Ngram searches, (which I don’t have access to right now) and “corporate fit” seemed to take off in the early 90s when PC got going.
    Also noticed that the terms Human Resources and Human Capital started shooting up right after… 1965

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Also noticed that the terms Human Resources and Human Capital started shooting up right after… 1965
     
    In the old days, those offices were called "Personnel", because they dealt with,...........persons.

    Now they are called "Human Resources", which is supposed to make us feel better somehow, because now we are just....................resources - like timber or iron ore.

    I've noticed that SHRM, The Society for Human Resource Management, are now agressively marketing themselves. They are touting their credentialling authority and pushing themselves as as the only proper gate-keepers who can be relied upon to enforce the right kind of HR policy.
    , @Altai
    I think it has more to do with youthful Start Up culture. ('Corporate Culture' is code for young and fun loving) It's also an acknowledgement that most jobs have an IQ and experience threshold but are not staffed much more productively beyond it and hiring to have a harmonious workforce probably does increase productivity. You should never have to put up with a Dwight unless his higher IQ does something productive.
    , @Autochthon
    I have extensive experience and expertise with hiring in corporate contexts. "Cultural fit" and the like is, as often as not, simply legal cover for everything from "we don't want to hire any more white people" to "this guy is too old" or "Did you see how he was dressed? Can you imagine that dork at happy hour? Ugh, no way!"

    No way is any of that stuff ever being written down, so it all becomes a concern about "cultural fit" in the interviewer's evaluation. That said, there is another side of the coin, and it is what you mention: lare corporations hate hate hate tall poppies or anyone who does not embrace "The [IBM, Coca-Cola, Ford, Google...] Way [of doing things and approaching work]."
  48. @Steve Sailer
    I see Hispanic husband - white wife couples in daily life, but not at all in the media.

    When I was a kid 50 years ago, we hung around a lot with a family with a Spanish surname: Larry was a well-spoken Mexican-American guy with a good job as a corporate salesman for Kraft who had married my mom's first husband's (my mom's first husband was killed on Iwo Jima in 1945) Swedish-American aunt's daughter.

    “I see Hispanic husband – white wife couples in daily life,”

    White women who date Los Angeles Mexican men are mostly White trash broads.

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  49. @Jefferson
    "Look on the bright side, she made a remark about white trash, rather than black trash, she probably would have been fired for that…"

    Asians don't see Black people as trash. Hence why the NBA and Hip Hop have an even bigger following in the Asian American community than in the White American conmunity.

    Asian American Millennials here in The Bay Area are all into Black culture like The Golden State Warriors and The Wu-Tang Clan.

    Asian American Millennials here in The Bay Area are all into Black culture like The Golden State Warriors and The Wu-Tang Clan.

    I see plenty of high school age asian boys wear baggy saggy rap clothing, but they seem to almost all grow out of it. I don’t even see it much on the campuses of good colleges, much less grown adults.

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  50. @Guy de Champlagne

    But do we really need employers policing their employees’ Yelp reviews?

     

    No. And this is going to end up hurting whites, men, christians, and conservatives far more than leftists like Chu.

    95% of Yelp reviews around here are written by hipsters or rich young white women.

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  51. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    But do we really need employers policing their employees’ Yelp reviews?
     
    That's how the new totalitarianism is supposed to work ie., if you say anything that progressives find "racist," "sexist," etc., or otherwise ideologically out-of-sync with acceptable (as they deem it) socio-cultural & political discourse (or pretty just anytime you say anything that the government and/or rich people don't like), then your employer will be notified, and you will lose access to the little green tickets we use to pay for food & shelter. But you won't actually be housed in a public penal institution, so we still have Freedom of Speech! And as always, if you disagree, then you're a nazi.

    Agree with a lot of what you said, but free speech doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences. You may be free to scream ‘n*gger’ in the middle of Harlem at 2am or lie about someone and cause them to get lose their job, but if they in turn get offended and put a foot where the sun don’t shine, or sue you for defamation, then that’s your problem.

    The problem with the current situation is that the government and other groups like the SPLC, etc have no business regulating it.

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  52. @Anon
    Drudge May 19

    This is the most entertaining bunch of headlines. What a joke the world has become.

    http://www.drudgereport.com/

    From one article:

    The secret device was used in March by a team of FBI and Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in Metro Detroit to find Rudy Carcamo-Carranza, 23, a twice-deported restaurant worker from El Salvador whose only brushes with the law involve drunken driving allegations and a hit-and-run crash.

    Metro Detroit is known for its extreme labor shortages. I’m sure it is worth keeping this drunk driver with a hit-and-run record, where else will the restaurant owner find workers?

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    An El Salvadorian community in Detroit. MS-13 is being imported to Detroit to outsorce Black thugs. It's the ghetto hood version of H-1B visas.
  53. Ok, I have some sympathy for her. She gets this big time job at possibly the number one formerly WASP school and it turns out to be the equivalent of child minding. Even worse she is trapped in New Haven which is one of the interstices in the BosNYWash corridor where you end up eating Trader Joe’s level mochi (which you can get anywhere, therefore removing any sense of superiority you had) and sushi prepared to god only knows what sanitary standards. To be honest Philly or NJ is better than New Haven and Ct in general.

    Dangerous parasite could be lurking in your sushi, doctors warn

    http://wgntv.com/2017/05/17/dangerous-parasite-could-be-lurking-in-your-sushi-doctors-warn/

    The white trash thing is a tad unfair, New Haven Ct is not West Virgina or Michigan or something. The whites have and excellent and unique pizza tradition, and hidden gems like Ted’s http://tedsrestaurant.com/ Too bad the US does not have a tradition of high speed or even fast railroads, or you could get to and from New Haven. Serious old WASP money pays for serious grub old WASPs want, just maybe not the grub you want.

    Maybe she’s transferring her dislike for Raymond J. Clark III to other whites, or maybe there is some kind of Asian v Whites thing going on in New Haven that was manifested by the Annie Le murder?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Annie_Le

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    • Replies: @Jack D
    Many sushi restaurants nowadays are run by Chinese. I frankly don't trust Chinese to prepare sushi. The Chinese have a tradition of not eating anything raw and there's a good reason for that given Chinese sanitation habits.

    You can kill most intestinal parasites by freezing the fish for several days. Many highly reputable sushi restaurants freeze their fish before serving it. Properly done it does not affect the texture or taste.

    New Haven pizza is called apizza for some reason. It's probably the closest to the true Neapolitan style of all the old school American pizzas,cooked in a blazing hot oven (though not wood fired - usually coal or even oil). And the New Haven apizza restaurants are democratic places where ordinary people eat and they don't charge you $15 for a pizza the size of a salad plate.

    It's sad and pathetic that it takes almost 2 1/2 hrs to go 75 miles by train from NY to New Haven in the greatest, richest country in the world. I think that's slower than it was 100 years ago. The trip from Beijing South Station to Tianjin (a little bit longer) takes around 40 minutes. At 300km per hour the Tibetan mountain spring water they give you doesn't even slosh on your tray table.
  54. @Anon
    is an anti-white racist jerk

    Not again. I'm the only true race-ist.

    By the way, I'm guessing she picked up such classist views from elite whites and Jews.

    Sneer at Les Deplorables.

    I think it also goes back to Confucian attitudes that look down on the uneducated.

    Cultural Revolution was horrible, but we can sort of understand why so many Chinese were more than happy to smash the educated class. Chinese have a long history of elite snobbery.

    “By the way, I’m guessing she picked up such classist views from elite whites and Jews.”

    The vast majority of people in Mainland China would be considered to be living below the poverty and not middle class by American standards. Yet I doubt she sees the mass Chinese peasant underclass as Yellow trash.

    June Chu’s hatred of White people is purely racial and has nothing to do with class/economics.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-03/17/content_542747.htm

    chinese people look down on other chinese people. they funny.
    , @Anonymous
    "June Chu’s hatred of White people is purely racial and has nothing to do with class/economics."

    If you actually look closely at this case, I think you have it backwards. And I say this as someone who is sympathetic to the view that much diversity-mongering/SJWism amounts to nothing more than proving that cishet white men are BAD.

    In fact, I think this case is actually more interesting than people are letting on. For Dean Chu, it seems that being an SJW is "just a job". I see NO sign of ideological SJWism in her yelp reviews. Instead, they seem to reveal her as she "really" is: a wannabe hipster snob with a high-class job. She plays that role in a distinctly Chinese-American way, but ultimately it is the snobbery that stands out.

    If you read her reviews, she shows a disdain not only for low-class whites, but also low-class blacks and Asians. Her comment about a movie theater not being "sketch" (I think she spelled it exactly that way) is a dig at New Haven blacks. Her comment about the workers at a "Japanese" restaurant being Chinese is a dig a low-class Chinese workers. She is "allowed" to make this comment because she is Chinese herself, so it seems... But she is the RIGHT sort of Chinese person, the sort that has the right sort of job and the right place in society.

    It seems that people are framing this story as involving either: 1) whether the left has to punish one of their own in order not to appear utterly hypocritical, or 2) (as Steve frames it above) whether it is actually a good thing that employers are monitoring online postings, even if they do so "non-ideologically". But it really seems to me that this case aligns with another theme that Steve has pushed in many posts, that SJWism is really a career path. Dean Chu seems to be, in real life, a snob that feels justified in her snobbery because she has SUCCEEDED in her chosen career. She doesn't need to actually believe that stuff in real life.
  55. @Lot
    From one article:

    The secret device was used in March by a team of FBI and Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in Metro Detroit to find Rudy Carcamo-Carranza, 23, a twice-deported restaurant worker from El Salvador whose only brushes with the law involve drunken driving allegations and a hit-and-run crash.
     
    Metro Detroit is known for its extreme labor shortages. I'm sure it is worth keeping this drunk driver with a hit-and-run record, where else will the restaurant owner find workers?

    An El Salvadorian community in Detroit. MS-13 is being imported to Detroit to outsorce Black thugs. It’s the ghetto hood version of H-1B visas.

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    hah. the salvadorans ive seen in southwest detroit look like hipsters or chubby mexicans. if there is ms13 here they will get smoked by the 85% black population of detroit who have very little regard for human life or their own futures.
  56. @Anon
    ROTFL

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-expands-dna-testing-xinjiang-muslims-security-crackdown-human-rights-watch-a7739791.html

    1. Diversity is a strength and hurray for Inclusion(of Han Chinese imperialists) into Xinjiang.

    2. No need to worry about DNA testing. Race is just a social construct, and you can't tell a Uighur from a Chinese by looking at DNA. LOL.

    Still, Chinese elites are not as scummy as EU elites.

    Chinese elites invoke 'diversity' and use political repression & surveillance to make things better for Chinese in Xinjiang.

    EU elites invoke 'diversity and use political repression & surveillance to make things worse for Europeans in their own nations.

    But since the elites control Pop Culture and PC(via mass education and media), it seems the majority of European masses have been duped into White Genocide.

    Btw, why should this be a 'human rights issue' in the eyes of progs?
    After all, Chinese are doing this for Diversity.
    If such means were used against European 'far right' in EU, progs would cheer.

    It would be nice if the Uighurs stopped trying to beat up and kill Chinese constantly. Its been nearly a thousand years and they can’t give it a rest.

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    • Replies: @Anon
    but they no eat pork.
    , @Kevin O'Keeffe

    It would be nice if the Uighurs stopped trying to beat up and kill Chinese constantly. Its been nearly a thousand years and they can’t give it a rest.
     
    It took nearly 800 years to get the British out of the bulk of Ireland. I can't blame the Uighurs for not wanting to be the northwest province of China. They aren't an East Asian-type people, after all. They're Muslims, so I'm not likely to prioritize Uighur independence, but I can see why they would.
  57. Raised in Cheshire, Ct. what’s the Asian population in that city?

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    Chesire town, CT is 5.1% Asian.

    https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045215/00
  58. @Steve Sailer
    I see Hispanic husband - white wife couples in daily life, but not at all in the media.

    When I was a kid 50 years ago, we hung around a lot with a family with a Spanish surname: Larry was a well-spoken Mexican-American guy with a good job as a corporate salesman for Kraft who had married my mom's first husband's (my mom's first husband was killed on Iwo Jima in 1945) Swedish-American aunt's daughter.

    Most people Americans call Hispanic don’t look like Desi Arnaz; they look like Hugo Chavez, or some of the more obscure extras in “Apocalypto.” Mayans and Aztecs are not out-marrying much with anybody, much less whites.

    Wasn’t Desi Cuban? I had a Cuban friend politely advise me, en route to a child’s baptism, that Cubans do not like to be referred to as “Hispanic” or “Latino.” But this was 20 years ago.

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    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    Yes, he was.

    Cubans are white, yes, but what are they if not Hispanic? Large swaths of Dade County are as Latin in character as any urbanized area in this hemisphere. You can live in Miami for years, even decades, without ever needing to know a word of English.

    As an unrepentant Anglo, I have been reminded on more than one occasion that Anglos did not make Miami what it is today, and that it is no longer Anglo turf. There was "nothing here" before the exiles started coming over in the '60s. (My great-grandfather was here long before they came - he survived the Big One of 1926 - but never mind.)

    I'm not saying I don't like Cubans, but I am saying that there are some Cubans who I don't like. But there are an awful lot of Anglos who I don't like, either. And my Spanish is serviceable. (I've been told that my accent is perfect, but my rhythm is off, like I'm speaking phonetically.)

    There are a lot more Teutons hanging around Miami than you might think. And a fair number of Slavic gals, if that's your thing.

    My Spanish is a lot better than my German. I've been told that, when speaking the latter, I sound like I have Down's syndrome. (One must admire Teutonic direktness.)

    , @Autochthon
    Desi Arnaz was European (white); Hugo Chavez was mestizo (and especially Amerindian at that; his European ancestry was obviously especially thin...).

    Both were Hispanic in the same sense that both Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby are Americans.

    This stuff is only confusing if you allow it to be by not cutting through the intentional squid-ink of the Narrative, which plays fast and loose with these things. Cf. an earlier commenter who rightly mocked the concept of a person claiming to be religiously a "secular Jew" as tantamount to one's claiming to be religiously an "atheist American." Neither is any religion at all.

  59. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jefferson
    An El Salvadorian community in Detroit. MS-13 is being imported to Detroit to outsorce Black thugs. It's the ghetto hood version of H-1B visas.

    hah. the salvadorans ive seen in southwest detroit look like hipsters or chubby mexicans. if there is ms13 here they will get smoked by the 85% black population of detroit who have very little regard for human life or their own futures.

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    • Replies: @BB753
    I'm betting on the Salvadorans. They're better organized.
    , @Jefferson
    "hah. the salvadorans ive seen in southwest detroit look like hipsters or chubby mexicans. if there is ms13 here they will get smoked by the 85% black population of detroit who have very little regard for human life or their own futures."

    According to this MS-13 has planted their flag in Detroit.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Gangs_in_Detroit

    Also MS-13 are not scared of Black thugs, which is why they also planted their flag in Washington DC with it's huge Black thug population.

  60. @mobi
    I'll bet that absent 'Trump and the Deplorables', this wouldn't have happened. She'd still be working.

    I think it's a sign they're slightly nervous.

    39 mobi > I think it’s a sign they’re slightly nervous.

    they also noticed what happened to Emily Rose Nauert, and to Eric Michael Clanton

    Even before Trump, there was Sabrina Rubin-Erdely at the wrong end of a $million civil judgement….. They noticed it.

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  61. @CLark Westwood
    I don't have an issue with online policing by employers AS LONG AS that is made clear to you before you take the job.

    I think by now it’s clear to all of us before we take any job.

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  62. But do we really need employers policing their employees’ Yelp reviews?

    A teacher in Jersey– the new one– was fired for quoting the OT on the consequences of buggery. A teacher in Michigan spread a picture online which pulled a George-W-Bush on Michelle Obama, and was fired for that.

    There wasn’t a peep out of their union(s) about such abusive behavior from their employers.

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    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    A teacher's aide in Georgia was fired for calling Michelle Obama a gorilla:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3820598/Teacher-fired-calling-Michelle-Obama-gorilla-Facebook.html

    Truthfully, this woman's IQ aspires to the three-digit range.

    I had a professor who gave us extra credit for writing an essay on The Bush Dyslexicon:
    https://www.amazon.com/Bush-Dyslexicon-Observations-National-Disorder/dp/0393322963

  63. @Cagey Beast
    Social media is poison–and will be the death knell for many who don’t know better.

    True. Social media as it now exists will have to die off quickly if anyone's going to be left standing. I predict there will be several social media related outrages that will drive people behind pay walls, over to private apps or away from online chatting altogether. Maybe an epidemic of firings will bring about some landmark court ruling? Something's got to give when it comes to this stuff.

    Those of us who have common first and last names have a degree of protection. It helps to observe a few taboos, and post articles by educated Tory conservatives from the National Review, etc., instead of one’s own Archie Bunkerish rantings. This woman did not exactly exhibit an Ivy League IQ getting caught.

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    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Why bother posting if you're only going to parrot National Review? In fact, why bother to open one's mouth if all that comes out is opinions from NRO and educated Tory conservatives? Can't the City of London and Wall Street speak well enough for themselves without parrots in blazers amplifying their message over gin & tonics? I'd rather remain silent, which I do.
  64. @Lot

    Most Japanese restaurants in America are operated by Chinese or Vietnamese.
     
    And staffed by Mexicans.

    They are best to be avoided.
     
    Chopping up raw fish and rolling it in rice is not rocket science. I've had plenty of good sushi made by Chinese and Mexicans, who have been eating raw seafood in the form of ceviche and raw oysters for a long time.

    Mexicans also make plenty of fine Toyotas under Japanese supervision.

    I traded my American assembled (in Indiana) Subaru with a Japanese engine and transmission for a Honda built in Ohio with engine and transmission also built in Ohio. That’s progress.

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  65. @anon
    hah. the salvadorans ive seen in southwest detroit look like hipsters or chubby mexicans. if there is ms13 here they will get smoked by the 85% black population of detroit who have very little regard for human life or their own futures.

    I’m betting on the Salvadorans. They’re better organized.

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  66. From the WaPo article:

    A student in Pierson who spoke to the Yale Daily News but asked to remain anonymous said he and some friends searched Chu’s Yelp account after receiving a collegewide email on Jan. 30 in which she announced that she had become “Yelp Elite,” meaning she had been recognized by the website for active participation “well-written reviews, high quality tips, a detailed personal profile, an active voting and complimenting record, and a history of playing well with others,” according to Yelp.

    I don’t think employers should search out employees’ social media postings. However, she seems to be pathetic and vain enough to send out email on work account to her co-workers/students about her exalted status on Yelp, that bring her statements on Yelp into the purview of her employer.

    I mean if commentators on iSteve send out blast e-mails to whole department/division/etc., announcing that they had became “trusted” commenter whose post won’t be hold up for moderation, it’s natural for people’s post on iSteve to became an issue for the employers. If I ever became that pathetic and vain as her to do that, you guys have my permission to shoot me.

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  67. @Massimo Heitor
    This woman posted overtly racist comments under her full real name and she's a Dean at Yale? Consequences should be harsh. If a white dean posted a racial slur about others, I'm sure he/she would be fired, so the same consequence should apply here.

    An anonymous post, even if the author is outed, should face much lighter consequences.

    If a public school teacher has a normal adult night out and has alcoholic drinks which is quite normal acceptable adult behavior, he/she will get in trouble and even fired dishonorably if that is posted publicly. A Dean at Yale should be held to much higher standards and her comments of "white trash" are horrible.

    Recall that Halloween 2015 costume dust-up that drove her white colleague Erika Christakis (obviously a hater name these days!) away. There is something magic in the water, or dirt, in New Haven. The Yale motto is Lux et Veritas. Now the world awaits similar light and truth treatment for Chu.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/after-yale-halloween-email-black-students-alumni-say-racial-tensions-linger-elite-ivy-2176186

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  68. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Daniel Chieh
    It would be nice if the Uighurs stopped trying to beat up and kill Chinese constantly. Its been nearly a thousand years and they can't give it a rest.

    but they no eat pork.

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  69. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jefferson
    "By the way, I’m guessing she picked up such classist views from elite whites and Jews."

    The vast majority of people in Mainland China would be considered to be living below the poverty and not middle class by American standards. Yet I doubt she sees the mass Chinese peasant underclass as Yellow trash.

    June Chu's hatred of White people is purely racial and has nothing to do with class/economics.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-03/17/content_542747.htm

    chinese people look down on other chinese people. they funny.

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  70. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Most people Americans call Hispanic don't look like Desi Arnaz; they look like Hugo Chavez, or some of the more obscure extras in "Apocalypto." Mayans and Aztecs are not out-marrying much with anybody, much less whites.

    Wasn't Desi Cuban? I had a Cuban friend politely advise me, en route to a child's baptism, that Cubans do not like to be referred to as "Hispanic" or "Latino." But this was 20 years ago.

    Yes, he was.

    Cubans are white, yes, but what are they if not Hispanic? Large swaths of Dade County are as Latin in character as any urbanized area in this hemisphere. You can live in Miami for years, even decades, without ever needing to know a word of English.

    As an unrepentant Anglo, I have been reminded on more than one occasion that Anglos did not make Miami what it is today, and that it is no longer Anglo turf. There was “nothing here” before the exiles started coming over in the ’60s. (My great-grandfather was here long before they came – he survived the Big One of 1926 – but never mind.)

    I’m not saying I don’t like Cubans, but I am saying that there are some Cubans who I don’t like. But there are an awful lot of Anglos who I don’t like, either. And my Spanish is serviceable. (I’ve been told that my accent is perfect, but my rhythm is off, like I’m speaking phonetically.)

    There are a lot more Teutons hanging around Miami than you might think. And a fair number of Slavic gals, if that’s your thing.

    My Spanish is a lot better than my German. I’ve been told that, when speaking the latter, I sound like I have Down’s syndrome. (One must admire Teutonic direktness.)

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Cubans are white"

    Most Cubans are not White when you include the ones who never left the island. Also Cuban "Whites" are more likely to be a little bit Black in their DNA family tree than White Americans.
    , @The Alarmist

    "Cubans are white, yes, but what are they if not Hispanic?"
     
    They're Cubano, man. Hispanics come from Hispanola, and only half of that (Dominica) speaks spanish. Home of some of the hottest women in the region and NYC ... ask any Latino, Hispanic, Cubano, Chicano, whatever.
  71. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Grumpy
    Her comments were in bad taste, but consider the language used by the master/head of Pierson College in his letter addressing this:

    ...I still had hope for the possibility of envisioning a path toward healing and reconciliation...Today I am grieving because I no longer can envision such a way forward.
     
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/05/18/yale-dean-placed-on-leave-after-writing-about-white-trash-and-other-insulting-comments/?utm_term=.34c1eb899af2

    “Today I am grieving because I no longer can envision such a way forward.” (–Master of Pierson College)

    Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you’re grieving over this, sir, what do you do when your wife, or–even worse–your dog dies??

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    • Replies: @Pericles
    When his wife, children or pets are killed, he will be forgiving.
  72. @Lot

    Most Japanese restaurants in America are operated by Chinese or Vietnamese.
     
    And staffed by Mexicans.

    They are best to be avoided.
     
    Chopping up raw fish and rolling it in rice is not rocket science. I've had plenty of good sushi made by Chinese and Mexicans, who have been eating raw seafood in the form of ceviche and raw oysters for a long time.

    Mexicans also make plenty of fine Toyotas under Japanese supervision.

    You’re both correct. Rolling is not rocket science, and Japan doesn’t have the world’s best cigars. However, there is a lot going on with sushi before the rolling stage, starting with the guys who vett the fishes. This is not even a matter of skill as the guys who live in the US are never even exposed to what they have to look for/do/taste. Anyway, sushi is only a very small part of Japanese cuisine.

    But I would refrain from calling Japanese cuisine the world’s best. Eating it occassionally makes it taste amazing, but it doesn’t scale so well in time or quantity.

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    • Replies: @weyyar
    You have to go to Japan. Being a chef is an esteemed job and they have to go through a long apprenticeship. They can make intoxicating food without loading it with sugar and fat. And there is more to Japanese cuisine than sushi. Sushi is more a specialty food or occasions - eg weddings.
    , @Wally
    Well said.

    I've spent plenty of time in Japan, the Japanese are an admirable & gracious people, but eating their way day in & day out?

    No thanks.

  73. @anon
    hah. the salvadorans ive seen in southwest detroit look like hipsters or chubby mexicans. if there is ms13 here they will get smoked by the 85% black population of detroit who have very little regard for human life or their own futures.

    “hah. the salvadorans ive seen in southwest detroit look like hipsters or chubby mexicans. if there is ms13 here they will get smoked by the 85% black population of detroit who have very little regard for human life or their own futures.”

    According to this MS-13 has planted their flag in Detroit.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Gangs_in_Detroit

    Also MS-13 are not scared of Black thugs, which is why they also planted their flag in Washington DC with it’s huge Black thug population.

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    • Replies: @anon
    Trust me . they aren't here. Detroit has a small Hispanic community , its centered in Southwest Detroit. Southwest is also full of White biker gangs and being adjacent to Dearborn also has a Muslim section and believe it or not a Gypsy section. Salvadorans are a small part of the Hispanic population , which is overwhelmingly Mexican.

    MS13 isn't running shit here. Weed is king here , everyone is obsessed with it. The city runs on blunts and newports. The blacks sell all the weed on the streets and Chaldeans own all the weed dispensaries. MS 13 doesn't even factor in.
  74. Why we can’t have nice Interwebs* anymore…

    Anyway, as another commenter said, “In 25 years it’s all gonna be drones, mass unemployment, designer drugs and sex robots anyway let’s just get on with it.”

    *or websites or virtual things

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  75. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Cagey Beast
    Social media is poison–and will be the death knell for many who don’t know better.

    True. Social media as it now exists will have to die off quickly if anyone's going to be left standing. I predict there will be several social media related outrages that will drive people behind pay walls, over to private apps or away from online chatting altogether. Maybe an epidemic of firings will bring about some landmark court ruling? Something's got to give when it comes to this stuff.

    Social media as it now exists will have to die off quickly if anyone’s going to be left standing.

    Wish I could agree, but many people–Social Grievance Types in particular–play the medium like a Stradivarius. They exhibit a delicately-calibrated sense of what will fly, and in what context.

    BTW, did you know that the Stradivarius was actually invented by an African? Then the man come and steal it away.

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    The funny thing is even those who think they know how to walk the SJW high wire sometimes come crashing down. Just in the last week or so here in Canada we saw several White and Jewish guys come to grief over tweets on the topic of "cultural appropriation". These guys where editors, journalists and executive producers in very PC institutions but even they couldn't calibrate their moves precisely enough.
  76. @Stan Adams
    Yes, he was.

    Cubans are white, yes, but what are they if not Hispanic? Large swaths of Dade County are as Latin in character as any urbanized area in this hemisphere. You can live in Miami for years, even decades, without ever needing to know a word of English.

    As an unrepentant Anglo, I have been reminded on more than one occasion that Anglos did not make Miami what it is today, and that it is no longer Anglo turf. There was "nothing here" before the exiles started coming over in the '60s. (My great-grandfather was here long before they came - he survived the Big One of 1926 - but never mind.)

    I'm not saying I don't like Cubans, but I am saying that there are some Cubans who I don't like. But there are an awful lot of Anglos who I don't like, either. And my Spanish is serviceable. (I've been told that my accent is perfect, but my rhythm is off, like I'm speaking phonetically.)

    There are a lot more Teutons hanging around Miami than you might think. And a fair number of Slavic gals, if that's your thing.

    My Spanish is a lot better than my German. I've been told that, when speaking the latter, I sound like I have Down's syndrome. (One must admire Teutonic direktness.)

    “Cubans are white”

    Most Cubans are not White when you include the ones who never left the island. Also Cuban “Whites” are more likely to be a little bit Black in their DNA family tree than White Americans.

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  77. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Peter Akuleyev

    this low level, insignificant employee had to be punished
     
    A Yale residential college Dean is not "insignificant" or " low level." In my day the Dean was the authority figure with whom the students had the most contact and a mentor to many of them.

    Agreed. In my day, a “Dean’s Excuse” was a thing of great power. No professor could dispute it. On the other hand, the college deans could also put you on probation, and sometimes did.

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  78. @Hibernian
    Those of us who have common first and last names have a degree of protection. It helps to observe a few taboos, and post articles by educated Tory conservatives from the National Review, etc., instead of one's own Archie Bunkerish rantings. This woman did not exactly exhibit an Ivy League IQ getting caught.

    Why bother posting if you’re only going to parrot National Review? In fact, why bother to open one’s mouth if all that comes out is opinions from NRO and educated Tory conservatives? Can’t the City of London and Wall Street speak well enough for themselves without parrots in blazers amplifying their message over gin & tonics? I’d rather remain silent, which I do.

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  79. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jefferson
    "hah. the salvadorans ive seen in southwest detroit look like hipsters or chubby mexicans. if there is ms13 here they will get smoked by the 85% black population of detroit who have very little regard for human life or their own futures."

    According to this MS-13 has planted their flag in Detroit.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Gangs_in_Detroit

    Also MS-13 are not scared of Black thugs, which is why they also planted their flag in Washington DC with it's huge Black thug population.

    Trust me . they aren’t here. Detroit has a small Hispanic community , its centered in Southwest Detroit. Southwest is also full of White biker gangs and being adjacent to Dearborn also has a Muslim section and believe it or not a Gypsy section. Salvadorans are a small part of the Hispanic population , which is overwhelmingly Mexican.

    MS13 isn’t running shit here. Weed is king here , everyone is obsessed with it. The city runs on blunts and newports. The blacks sell all the weed on the streets and Chaldeans own all the weed dispensaries. MS 13 doesn’t even factor in.

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    Anon:

    Just give them a little time. Don't forget that the ethnic cleansing of Los Angeles by Hispanics wasn't accomplished overnight!
    , @Kevin O'Keeffe

    MS13 isn’t running shit here. Weed is king here , everyone is obsessed with it. The city runs on blunts and newports. The blacks sell all the weed on the streets and Chaldeans own all the weed dispensaries. MS 13 doesn’t even factor in.
     
    You sound like you know what you're talking about, but Detroit is a big, majority-Black city located east of the Mississippi. So I have a hard time believing there isn't a relatively brisk trade in cocaine (in whatever form).
  80. @Anon

    Social media as it now exists will have to die off quickly if anyone’s going to be left standing.
     
    Wish I could agree, but many people--Social Grievance Types in particular--play the medium like a Stradivarius. They exhibit a delicately-calibrated sense of what will fly, and in what context.

    BTW, did you know that the Stradivarius was actually invented by an African? Then the man come and steal it away.

    The funny thing is even those who think they know how to walk the SJW high wire sometimes come crashing down. Just in the last week or so here in Canada we saw several White and Jewish guys come to grief over tweets on the topic of “cultural appropriation”. These guys where editors, journalists and executive producers in very PC institutions but even they couldn’t calibrate their moves precisely enough.

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    • Replies: @Lurker

    These guys where editors, journalists and executive producers in very PC institutions but even they couldn’t calibrate their moves precisely enough.
     
    The ground is shifting under their feet all the time. What was OK last week might not be OK next week and no one can be quite sure in what way. Plus sacrifices are needed - pour encourager les autres - those sacrifices are going to come from the ranks of the left/libs.
  81. Anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @27 year old
    We should push for it to be illegal to fire based on social media activity - wrongful termination. If it's illegal to fire someone for being gay, it should be illegal to fire someone over a Facebook post.

    And European style labor laws in general, like mandatory minimum of 6 weeks vacation. Although I can see how that might backfire - liberal professionals in the fake economy get the benefit but to make up the cost business squeezes real workers even harder

    If it’s illegal to fire someone for being gay, it should be illegal to fire someone over a Facebook post.

    Well now there’s a syllogism I didn’t expect to see.

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  82. “racially charged”…they just can’t bring themselves to say her comments were racist.

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  83. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    OT:
    I clicked on the Chronicle of Higher Education link, and found another interesting article there. It seems the actual editors of Hypatia are now disavowing the disavowal of the published article examining transracialism:

    http://www.chronicle.com/blogs/ticker/hypatias-board-of-directors-disavows-editors-apology-for-article-on-transracialism/118477

    The article links to the actual statement by the editors:

    http://dailynous.com/2017/05/18/statement-hypatia-board-regarding-tuvel-controversy/

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  84. @Cagey Beast
    The evidence is growing that liberalism only works amongst White men or at least with White men setting the tone and being the final arbiter. We can never go back to the way it was before we unilaterally disarmed but we might be able to earn the grudging respect of the other squabbling factions by being the fairest and most cool-headed in the Blade Runner dystopia of our near future. We might get enough of the others to agree things work better when we run things. The future's going to be a huge pain in the ass for Whitey either way.

    Liberalism yes and at the same time homogeneity allowing reliability of expectations to justify relaxing rules or going by the spirit rather than the letter of the law.
    We had a library where people would bring in whole meals to eat as they browsed online. There was never a problem. Noise was minimized and all messes were completely cleaned up, automatically, without a specific command. It was against posted rules to eat but no harm was being done so it was tolerated.
    Enter diversity. Whereas before people respected and obeyed the librarians, even though there was little to obey, whenever the new breed of patron required intervention (which was often) they would reflexively resist. An emerging theme of this resistance was sealawyering. Nobody ever apologized or admitted to wrongdoing, no matter how obvious. It was expected that TV courtroom rules applied and all claims had to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. At all times they demanded to “know exactly where it said” (in official rules) they could not record their mixtape next to the children’s section.
    The diversity led quickly and consciously to a rigid, by-the-book regime, in what had been a culturally ordered (and very orderly!) space, but of course without effect on the consistently resistant newcomers.
    Diversity kills culture and replaces it with codes of conduct, diversity kills community and replaces it with random groupings.

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  85. @anon
    Trust me . they aren't here. Detroit has a small Hispanic community , its centered in Southwest Detroit. Southwest is also full of White biker gangs and being adjacent to Dearborn also has a Muslim section and believe it or not a Gypsy section. Salvadorans are a small part of the Hispanic population , which is overwhelmingly Mexican.

    MS13 isn't running shit here. Weed is king here , everyone is obsessed with it. The city runs on blunts and newports. The blacks sell all the weed on the streets and Chaldeans own all the weed dispensaries. MS 13 doesn't even factor in.

    Anon:

    Just give them a little time. Don’t forget that the ethnic cleansing of Los Angeles by Hispanics wasn’t accomplished overnight!

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  86. @George
    Ok, I have some sympathy for her. She gets this big time job at possibly the number one formerly WASP school and it turns out to be the equivalent of child minding. Even worse she is trapped in New Haven which is one of the interstices in the BosNYWash corridor where you end up eating Trader Joe's level mochi (which you can get anywhere, therefore removing any sense of superiority you had) and sushi prepared to god only knows what sanitary standards. To be honest Philly or NJ is better than New Haven and Ct in general.

    Dangerous parasite could be lurking in your sushi, doctors warn
    http://wgntv.com/2017/05/17/dangerous-parasite-could-be-lurking-in-your-sushi-doctors-warn/

    The white trash thing is a tad unfair, New Haven Ct is not West Virgina or Michigan or something. The whites have and excellent and unique pizza tradition, and hidden gems like Ted's http://tedsrestaurant.com/ Too bad the US does not have a tradition of high speed or even fast railroads, or you could get to and from New Haven. Serious old WASP money pays for serious grub old WASPs want, just maybe not the grub you want.

    Maybe she's transferring her dislike for Raymond J. Clark III to other whites, or maybe there is some kind of Asian v Whites thing going on in New Haven that was manifested by the Annie Le murder?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Annie_Le

    Many sushi restaurants nowadays are run by Chinese. I frankly don’t trust Chinese to prepare sushi. The Chinese have a tradition of not eating anything raw and there’s a good reason for that given Chinese sanitation habits.

    You can kill most intestinal parasites by freezing the fish for several days. Many highly reputable sushi restaurants freeze their fish before serving it. Properly done it does not affect the texture or taste.

    New Haven pizza is called apizza for some reason. It’s probably the closest to the true Neapolitan style of all the old school American pizzas,cooked in a blazing hot oven (though not wood fired – usually coal or even oil). And the New Haven apizza restaurants are democratic places where ordinary people eat and they don’t charge you $15 for a pizza the size of a salad plate.

    It’s sad and pathetic that it takes almost 2 1/2 hrs to go 75 miles by train from NY to New Haven in the greatest, richest country in the world. I think that’s slower than it was 100 years ago. The trip from Beijing South Station to Tianjin (a little bit longer) takes around 40 minutes. At 300km per hour the Tibetan mountain spring water they give you doesn’t even slosh on your tray table.

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    "Many sushi restaurants nowadays are run by Chinese. I frankly don’t trust Chinese to prepare sushi."

    I also don't trust Chinese people to prepare Italian food. Every Italian restaurant that is run by a Chinaman is pure garbage.

    Chinese people suck at culturally appropriating other ethnic group's cuisines. Whether it's Italian, French, Japanese, or American.


    As an Italian I would rather eat at The Olive Garden than eat at an Italian restaurant run by a Chinaman.

    , @ANON
    That's when the train even makes it to New Haven, and hasn't broken down along the way. And then there are the times it manages to get to New Haven, but has to wait, with all of the cars locked, until the constabulary can be summoned in order to disembark some of the more colorful passengers, who have committed various violent crimes along the way. Cops be so racist.
  87. @Percy Gryce
    I saw that and thought, eh, her opinions are a bit snobby, but I'm definitely not comfortable with these online witch hunts.

    One triumph of Trump was to break through the gotcha culture of death by one inopportune statement. Or so I thought.

    One triumph of Trump was to break through the gotcha culture of death by one inopportune statement. Or so I thought.

    So I thought too. But for that he would have had to maintain just a bit of class. Instead, through his borderline insane behavior he’s discrediting all us sane people who, at some level, support him.

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    But for that he would have had to maintain just a bit of class.
     
    Oh come on. You cannot claim that Our President aspired to your definition of class. Really. My (remarkably skilled) noodling high school buddies would not consider the Pres to rise high enough to be in their class.
  88. @Lot

    Most Japanese restaurants in America are operated by Chinese or Vietnamese.
     
    And staffed by Mexicans.

    They are best to be avoided.
     
    Chopping up raw fish and rolling it in rice is not rocket science. I've had plenty of good sushi made by Chinese and Mexicans, who have been eating raw seafood in the form of ceviche and raw oysters for a long time.

    Mexicans also make plenty of fine Toyotas under Japanese supervision.

    Ceviche is more Peruvian than Mexican and is not raw – the fish is “cooked” with the acid in the citrus juice. I would rather die than eat a raw oyster in Mexico. In fact if I ate a raw oyster in Mexico I probably would die, or at least get pretty sick. Oysters are filter feeders so if they are filtering sewage contaminated water then they accumulate human bacteria, viruses, etc.

    Japanese are known for their obsessive cleanliness and attention to detail. Mexicans and Chinese – not so much.

    If you think sushi is just chopping up some raw fish then watch Jiro Dreams of Sushi . Top grade sushi is just chopped raw fish in the same way that Petrus is just fermented grape juice or a Rembrandt painting is just some pigment smeared onto a piece of canvas.

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    I agree with you, Jack. If you eat bad oysters you'll probably wish you were dead.

    And concur with the sushi. If it's only cooked meat/fish and vegetables in sushi it's harder to screw up but for genuine raw fish, I would not trust Chinese or Mexicans either.
    , @Clyde

    If you think sushi is just chopping up some raw fish then watch Jiro Dreams of Sushi . Top grade sushi is just chopped raw fish in the same way that Petrus is just fermented grape juice or a Rembrandt painting is just some pigment smeared onto a piece of canvas.
     
    That's a lot o bull. I can make very good tuna sushi standing on my head and with no training. All I need is a good to top grade of tuna and some uncooked rice, some nori. Sushi eating in America is one upsmanship and snobbery and silly cooing over top Japanese sushi chefs who are laughing all the way to the bank. Whose restaurant you just shelled out $200-300 per person. How he is so much better than that other star sushi chef-restaurant owner. What a laugh! Women are the big sushi snobs, fans and proponents because they see it as diet food and healthy. Koreans and Japanese run most American sushi restaurants. Though I see it on some Chinese buffets and these are the only Chinese in the sushi biz.

    The Sushi fad in America has made thousands of Japanese and Korean sushi chef-owners into millionaires. Say it with me this time......"Laughing all the way to the bank" btw I love the (fake) wasabi and non-pink pickled ginger and will give them credit for this.

    , @tomv
    How often do you think the Japanese in Japan eat "top grade sushi"?

    They get their sushi at 7-Eleven, too, you know? Lots of it. And sometimes, they even make sushi at home (when they're not eating cup noodles, that is). Those that my friends have made for me looked and tasted positively amateurish. You can probably find better at American grocery stores.

    In China, they happily eat Chinese-cooked Japanese food. Obviously, there's a difference between establishments that cater to a Japanese clientele and those that cater to a local one, but the kitchen staff is pretty much always Chinese. Not too many Japanese line cooks clamoring to work in China.

    The Japanese are a proud people with an exquisite culture, but food snobbery and "authenticity" fetishism are distinctly American. Edible Rembrandt? Riiiight. You should invite fellow gourmet Dean Chu out to dinner. I hear she's not doing much these days.
  89. @Grumpy
    Her comments were in bad taste, but consider the language used by the master/head of Pierson College in his letter addressing this:

    ...I still had hope for the possibility of envisioning a path toward healing and reconciliation...Today I am grieving because I no longer can envision such a way forward.
     
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/05/18/yale-dean-placed-on-leave-after-writing-about-white-trash-and-other-insulting-comments/?utm_term=.34c1eb899af2

    SJW tears are delicious! Almost as tasty as Anthony Weiner’s tears as he cried in front of the judge today. This was the nation that once produced Washington, Lee , TR, Patton. Now we produce pathetic losers like this.

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  90. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jefferson
    "By the way, I’m guessing she picked up such classist views from elite whites and Jews."

    The vast majority of people in Mainland China would be considered to be living below the poverty and not middle class by American standards. Yet I doubt she sees the mass Chinese peasant underclass as Yellow trash.

    June Chu's hatred of White people is purely racial and has nothing to do with class/economics.

    “June Chu’s hatred of White people is purely racial and has nothing to do with class/economics.”

    If you actually look closely at this case, I think you have it backwards. And I say this as someone who is sympathetic to the view that much diversity-mongering/SJWism amounts to nothing more than proving that cishet white men are BAD.

    In fact, I think this case is actually more interesting than people are letting on. For Dean Chu, it seems that being an SJW is “just a job”. I see NO sign of ideological SJWism in her yelp reviews. Instead, they seem to reveal her as she “really” is: a wannabe hipster snob with a high-class job. She plays that role in a distinctly Chinese-American way, but ultimately it is the snobbery that stands out.

    If you read her reviews, she shows a disdain not only for low-class whites, but also low-class blacks and Asians. Her comment about a movie theater not being “sketch” (I think she spelled it exactly that way) is a dig at New Haven blacks. Her comment about the workers at a “Japanese” restaurant being Chinese is a dig a low-class Chinese workers. She is “allowed” to make this comment because she is Chinese herself, so it seems… But she is the RIGHT sort of Chinese person, the sort that has the right sort of job and the right place in society.

    It seems that people are framing this story as involving either: 1) whether the left has to punish one of their own in order not to appear utterly hypocritical, or 2) (as Steve frames it above) whether it is actually a good thing that employers are monitoring online postings, even if they do so “non-ideologically”. But it really seems to me that this case aligns with another theme that Steve has pushed in many posts, that SJWism is really a career path. Dean Chu seems to be, in real life, a snob that feels justified in her snobbery because she has SUCCEEDED in her chosen career. She doesn’t need to actually believe that stuff in real life.

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    But it really seems to me that this case aligns with another theme that Steve has pushed in many posts, that SJWism is really a career path. Dean Chu seems to be, in real life, a snob that feels justified in her snobbery because she has SUCCEEDED in her chosen career. She doesn’t need to actually believe that stuff in real life.
     
    Surely at least partly true. As Steve seems to acknowledge.

    But having previously worked in Hong Kong for a decade and interacted with the vast Chinese diaspora in Southeast Asia for a couple of decades (and enjoyed both experiences) can I add that I suspect that if she had written in Chinese we would have heard nothing of this.

    There is a continental shelf of adamantine chauvinism in Chinese culture that is often well controlled but occasionally peeps out as astoundingly crass commentary.
    , @Forbes

    But it really seems to me that this case aligns with another theme that Steve has pushed in many posts, that SJWism is really a career path. Dean Chu seems to be, in real life, a snob that feels justified in her snobbery because she has SUCCEEDED in her chosen career.
     
    Agreed. I commented above that Chu appears to have been hired as a professional Asian--as in SJWism as a career path. And as I remarked to some friends, Chu's bio on the Yale web site reads like a dating profile--a perfect merger of social media and SJWism.
    , @yaqub the mad scientist
    I tend to agree here. Americans are so used to obsessing over any identity they can manufacture-except class- that they tend to miss distinct class overtones. I've gotten into a number of debates over the last couple of years where the other debater was framing the debate clearly along class issues, but was scaffolding it in the most abstract way in an attempt to make it racial/ethnic.

    Class became an issue in 2016, but because people couldn't disentangle it from race and other stuff, they didn't see it coming.
  91. @Jack D
    Many sushi restaurants nowadays are run by Chinese. I frankly don't trust Chinese to prepare sushi. The Chinese have a tradition of not eating anything raw and there's a good reason for that given Chinese sanitation habits.

    You can kill most intestinal parasites by freezing the fish for several days. Many highly reputable sushi restaurants freeze their fish before serving it. Properly done it does not affect the texture or taste.

    New Haven pizza is called apizza for some reason. It's probably the closest to the true Neapolitan style of all the old school American pizzas,cooked in a blazing hot oven (though not wood fired - usually coal or even oil). And the New Haven apizza restaurants are democratic places where ordinary people eat and they don't charge you $15 for a pizza the size of a salad plate.

    It's sad and pathetic that it takes almost 2 1/2 hrs to go 75 miles by train from NY to New Haven in the greatest, richest country in the world. I think that's slower than it was 100 years ago. The trip from Beijing South Station to Tianjin (a little bit longer) takes around 40 minutes. At 300km per hour the Tibetan mountain spring water they give you doesn't even slosh on your tray table.

    “Many sushi restaurants nowadays are run by Chinese. I frankly don’t trust Chinese to prepare sushi.”

    I also don’t trust Chinese people to prepare Italian food. Every Italian restaurant that is run by a Chinaman is pure garbage.

    Chinese people suck at culturally appropriating other ethnic group’s cuisines. Whether it’s Italian, French, Japanese, or American.

    As an Italian I would rather eat at The Olive Garden than eat at an Italian restaurant run by a Chinaman.

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  92. @TomSchmidt
    From the article: Across the country, 10 percent of all married couples — about 11 million people — were wed to someone of a different race or ethnicity as of 2015, with the most common pairing a Hispanic husband and a white wife.

    I would not have suspected that. You learn something new every day.

    Is this because John Marquez labels himself “Hispanic” but Sophia Alvarez lists herself as “White”?

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  93. ANON says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jack D
    Many sushi restaurants nowadays are run by Chinese. I frankly don't trust Chinese to prepare sushi. The Chinese have a tradition of not eating anything raw and there's a good reason for that given Chinese sanitation habits.

    You can kill most intestinal parasites by freezing the fish for several days. Many highly reputable sushi restaurants freeze their fish before serving it. Properly done it does not affect the texture or taste.

    New Haven pizza is called apizza for some reason. It's probably the closest to the true Neapolitan style of all the old school American pizzas,cooked in a blazing hot oven (though not wood fired - usually coal or even oil). And the New Haven apizza restaurants are democratic places where ordinary people eat and they don't charge you $15 for a pizza the size of a salad plate.

    It's sad and pathetic that it takes almost 2 1/2 hrs to go 75 miles by train from NY to New Haven in the greatest, richest country in the world. I think that's slower than it was 100 years ago. The trip from Beijing South Station to Tianjin (a little bit longer) takes around 40 minutes. At 300km per hour the Tibetan mountain spring water they give you doesn't even slosh on your tray table.

    That’s when the train even makes it to New Haven, and hasn’t broken down along the way. And then there are the times it manages to get to New Haven, but has to wait, with all of the cars locked, until the constabulary can be summoned in order to disembark some of the more colorful passengers, who have committed various violent crimes along the way. Cops be so racist.

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  94. @Lot

    Most Japanese restaurants in America are operated by Chinese or Vietnamese.
     
    And staffed by Mexicans.

    They are best to be avoided.
     
    Chopping up raw fish and rolling it in rice is not rocket science. I've had plenty of good sushi made by Chinese and Mexicans, who have been eating raw seafood in the form of ceviche and raw oysters for a long time.

    Mexicans also make plenty of fine Toyotas under Japanese supervision.

    My 5 yr old son once asked, “why is all pizza made by brown people? Is it from their country?”
    Out loud, at a Mellow Mushroom. I was proud

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  95. Is what you are saying true, Daniel? I saw a hideous video of Chinese people horrifically​ abusing and torturing a tiny Uighur child. A Chinese man stepped on the hands of the Uighur boy, who could not have been over 4 or 5 years old, and broke his hands. My Chinese co-worker watched the video with me and refused to translate the comments that were being directed at the poor child being abused. He just said that they were “Racist”. My Black co-worker worker was more succinct and stated that she wanted to kill the “Buck toothed, mother fuckers” who were torturing the small child.

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  96. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Clyde
    Just saying....But I see a disproportionate number of Yelp restaurant reviews written by young East Asian women. Meaning of Korean, Chinese, Taiwanese, Japanese extraction. You can tell by the small self photos they put up and their names.

    I’ve noticed this too. A lot of East Asian American men also seem to be food bloggers. I don’t know what to make of it. Perhaps their sex drives are sublimated into food cravings or something.

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    Writing Yelp reviews is also a way of networking and NE Asian boy meets NE Asian girl. I am kinda guessing there. It has that Facebook aspect to it.
  97. @Jack D
    Ceviche is more Peruvian than Mexican and is not raw - the fish is "cooked" with the acid in the citrus juice. I would rather die than eat a raw oyster in Mexico. In fact if I ate a raw oyster in Mexico I probably would die, or at least get pretty sick. Oysters are filter feeders so if they are filtering sewage contaminated water then they accumulate human bacteria, viruses, etc.

    Japanese are known for their obsessive cleanliness and attention to detail. Mexicans and Chinese - not so much.

    If you think sushi is just chopping up some raw fish then watch Jiro Dreams of Sushi . Top grade sushi is just chopped raw fish in the same way that Petrus is just fermented grape juice or a Rembrandt painting is just some pigment smeared onto a piece of canvas.

    I agree with you, Jack. If you eat bad oysters you’ll probably wish you were dead.

    And concur with the sushi. If it’s only cooked meat/fish and vegetables in sushi it’s harder to screw up but for genuine raw fish, I would not trust Chinese or Mexicans either.

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    "would not trust Chinese or Mexicans either."

    But Mexicans are a White ethnic group according to many people here on The Unz. So why wouldn't trust them?
  98. Never defend the free speech of someone with a Non European last name like Chu, because they would never return you the favor. Save your 1st amendment sympathies for someone like Anthony Cumia and Alex Jones for example.

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  99. @TomSchmidt
    From the article: Across the country, 10 percent of all married couples — about 11 million people — were wed to someone of a different race or ethnicity as of 2015, with the most common pairing a Hispanic husband and a white wife.

    I would not have suspected that. You learn something new every day.

    Wiki has a neat interracial marriage chart for 2008. 51.4% of white women who married “interracially” married an Hispanic man. 46.1% of white men who married “interracially” married an Hispanic woman.

    83.3% of Hispanic men who marry “interracially” married white women and 77.5% of Hispanic women who marry “interracially” married white men.

    White wife, Hispanic husband examples are Ted Cruz and his wife, Jeff Bezos’ mother and stepfather, and Aaron Hernandez’s parents.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States

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  100. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    She sounds like a pathetic person, but there is nothing illegal about being pathetic.

    People who don’t like her behaviour should just not bother associating with her. That’s the ‘punishment’. Unless it’s something she brings to work with her, I don’t think her employers should involve themselves.

    We need to be governed by clearly stated and impartial rules and laws. It’s the only way. Almost anything one says or does — even ones existence is sure to offend somebody… so hurt feelings can’t be the guide as to whether somebody keeps their job.

    I really don’t like Asian immigrants calling Americans ‘White Trash’, so I’d avoid this lady like the plague and give her a very cold shoulder if approached by her. But I wouldn’t seek to have her fired from her job.

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    I’d avoid this lady like the plague and give her a very cold shoulder if approached by her.

     

    And then she could in a high dudgeon sue your racist ass and get you fired.
  101. As an outsider, it strikes me that the entire American nation is going nuts in the way that Florence went crazy under Savonarola or China during the Cultural Revolution.

    Entire countries can go nuts and the infection is spreading to us.

    In China, students were encouraged to overthrow their professors. Remind you of anything?

    http://www.unz.com/gnxp/what-45000-in-tuition-buys-you-at-yale/

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    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    Yes, this is something I worry about too. We were already vulnerable to mass hysteria before the printing press but it accelerated it. Then, over the 18th and 19th century, printing got cheaper and easier and the waves of hysteria gathered force more quickly.

    The penny press helped amplify and direct the madness of crowds during the 1848 revolutions, the American Civil War, the Franco-Prussian War, the Paris Commune, Hearst's "you supply the pictures, I'll supply the war" Spanish-American War, the similar pop wars against the Boers and then the final crescendo of 1914-1918.
    After that, it was up to radio and talkie films to get the crowds all worked up even more quickly and completely. Then expensive television sets joined the relatively expensive radios in living rooms. Then the transistor put cheap TVs almost everywhere and radios in every car, shop floor and kitchen. Now we have millions of people (females especially) who navigate through life by constantly checking in with social media in order to recalibrate their positions.

    All signs point to this being a crazy summer with lots of vigorous outdoor politics, let's say. After a few years of political violence being coordinated, accelerated and amplified by social media, will people be glad when it's finally shut down? It can't be made to disappear, of course, but it's not hard to imagine all the technical and legal tools that could be used against it.

  102. @Anonymous
    "June Chu’s hatred of White people is purely racial and has nothing to do with class/economics."

    If you actually look closely at this case, I think you have it backwards. And I say this as someone who is sympathetic to the view that much diversity-mongering/SJWism amounts to nothing more than proving that cishet white men are BAD.

    In fact, I think this case is actually more interesting than people are letting on. For Dean Chu, it seems that being an SJW is "just a job". I see NO sign of ideological SJWism in her yelp reviews. Instead, they seem to reveal her as she "really" is: a wannabe hipster snob with a high-class job. She plays that role in a distinctly Chinese-American way, but ultimately it is the snobbery that stands out.

    If you read her reviews, she shows a disdain not only for low-class whites, but also low-class blacks and Asians. Her comment about a movie theater not being "sketch" (I think she spelled it exactly that way) is a dig at New Haven blacks. Her comment about the workers at a "Japanese" restaurant being Chinese is a dig a low-class Chinese workers. She is "allowed" to make this comment because she is Chinese herself, so it seems... But she is the RIGHT sort of Chinese person, the sort that has the right sort of job and the right place in society.

    It seems that people are framing this story as involving either: 1) whether the left has to punish one of their own in order not to appear utterly hypocritical, or 2) (as Steve frames it above) whether it is actually a good thing that employers are monitoring online postings, even if they do so "non-ideologically". But it really seems to me that this case aligns with another theme that Steve has pushed in many posts, that SJWism is really a career path. Dean Chu seems to be, in real life, a snob that feels justified in her snobbery because she has SUCCEEDED in her chosen career. She doesn't need to actually believe that stuff in real life.

    But it really seems to me that this case aligns with another theme that Steve has pushed in many posts, that SJWism is really a career path. Dean Chu seems to be, in real life, a snob that feels justified in her snobbery because she has SUCCEEDED in her chosen career. She doesn’t need to actually believe that stuff in real life.

    Surely at least partly true. As Steve seems to acknowledge.

    But having previously worked in Hong Kong for a decade and interacted with the vast Chinese diaspora in Southeast Asia for a couple of decades (and enjoyed both experiences) can I add that I suspect that if she had written in Chinese we would have heard nothing of this.

    There is a continental shelf of adamantine chauvinism in Chinese culture that is often well controlled but occasionally peeps out as astoundingly crass commentary.

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  103. @Steve Sailer
    I see Hispanic husband - white wife couples in daily life, but not at all in the media.

    When I was a kid 50 years ago, we hung around a lot with a family with a Spanish surname: Larry was a well-spoken Mexican-American guy with a good job as a corporate salesman for Kraft who had married my mom's first husband's (my mom's first husband was killed on Iwo Jima in 1945) Swedish-American aunt's daughter.

    “I see Hispanic husband – white wife couples in daily life, but not at all in the media.”

    Does Jimmy Smits count? He’s done a number of these, though mostly boyfriend-girlfriend level relationships, but married to a decidedly european-descent chick when he played a Presidential candidate in the West Wing, with the “bad guy” (WEM) opponent being played by Alan Alda, of all people.

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  104. @Jack D
    Ceviche is more Peruvian than Mexican and is not raw - the fish is "cooked" with the acid in the citrus juice. I would rather die than eat a raw oyster in Mexico. In fact if I ate a raw oyster in Mexico I probably would die, or at least get pretty sick. Oysters are filter feeders so if they are filtering sewage contaminated water then they accumulate human bacteria, viruses, etc.

    Japanese are known for their obsessive cleanliness and attention to detail. Mexicans and Chinese - not so much.

    If you think sushi is just chopping up some raw fish then watch Jiro Dreams of Sushi . Top grade sushi is just chopped raw fish in the same way that Petrus is just fermented grape juice or a Rembrandt painting is just some pigment smeared onto a piece of canvas.

    If you think sushi is just chopping up some raw fish then watch Jiro Dreams of Sushi . Top grade sushi is just chopped raw fish in the same way that Petrus is just fermented grape juice or a Rembrandt painting is just some pigment smeared onto a piece of canvas.

    That’s a lot o bull. I can make very good tuna sushi standing on my head and with no training. All I need is a good to top grade of tuna and some uncooked rice, some nori. Sushi eating in America is one upsmanship and snobbery and silly cooing over top Japanese sushi chefs who are laughing all the way to the bank. Whose restaurant you just shelled out $200-300 per person. How he is so much better than that other star sushi chef-restaurant owner. What a laugh! Women are the big sushi snobs, fans and proponents because they see it as diet food and healthy. Koreans and Japanese run most American sushi restaurants. Though I see it on some Chinese buffets and these are the only Chinese in the sushi biz.

    The Sushi fad in America has made thousands of Japanese and Korean sushi chef-owners into millionaires. Say it with me this time……”Laughing all the way to the bank” btw I love the (fake) wasabi and non-pink pickled ginger and will give them credit for this.

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  105. @Anonymous
    I've noticed this too. A lot of East Asian American men also seem to be food bloggers. I don't know what to make of it. Perhaps their sex drives are sublimated into food cravings or something.

    Writing Yelp reviews is also a way of networking and NE Asian boy meets NE Asian girl. I am kinda guessing there. It has that Facebook aspect to it.

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  106. @22pp22
    As an outsider, it strikes me that the entire American nation is going nuts in the way that Florence went crazy under Savonarola or China during the Cultural Revolution.

    Entire countries can go nuts and the infection is spreading to us.

    In China, students were encouraged to overthrow their professors. Remind you of anything?

    http://www.unz.com/gnxp/what-45000-in-tuition-buys-you-at-yale/

    Yes, this is something I worry about too. We were already vulnerable to mass hysteria before the printing press but it accelerated it. Then, over the 18th and 19th century, printing got cheaper and easier and the waves of hysteria gathered force more quickly.

    The penny press helped amplify and direct the madness of crowds during the 1848 revolutions, the American Civil War, the Franco-Prussian War, the Paris Commune, Hearst’s “you supply the pictures, I’ll supply the war” Spanish-American War, the similar pop wars against the Boers and then the final crescendo of 1914-1918.
    After that, it was up to radio and talkie films to get the crowds all worked up even more quickly and completely. Then expensive television sets joined the relatively expensive radios in living rooms. Then the transistor put cheap TVs almost everywhere and radios in every car, shop floor and kitchen. Now we have millions of people (females especially) who navigate through life by constantly checking in with social media in order to recalibrate their positions.

    All signs point to this being a crazy summer with lots of vigorous outdoor politics, let’s say. After a few years of political violence being coordinated, accelerated and amplified by social media, will people be glad when it’s finally shut down? It can’t be made to disappear, of course, but it’s not hard to imagine all the technical and legal tools that could be used against it.

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    @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    My 5 yr old son once asked, "why is all pizza made by brown people? Is it from their country?"
    Out loud, at a Mellow Mushroom. I was proud

    Those brown people have a name. Neapolitans.

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Those brown people have a name. Neapolitans"

    Don't forget Sicilians and Calabrians.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Those brown people have a name. Neapolitans.

     

    I thought Neapolitans were hybrids– brown, white, and pink.
  108. But do we really need employers policing their employees’ Yelp reviews?

    I certainly wouldn’t hire someone who doesn’t like me, or at least doesn’t hate me. I’d be risking subversion.

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  109. @Daniel Chieh
    It would be nice if the Uighurs stopped trying to beat up and kill Chinese constantly. Its been nearly a thousand years and they can't give it a rest.

    It would be nice if the Uighurs stopped trying to beat up and kill Chinese constantly. Its been nearly a thousand years and they can’t give it a rest.

    It took nearly 800 years to get the British out of the bulk of Ireland. I can’t blame the Uighurs for not wanting to be the northwest province of China. They aren’t an East Asian-type people, after all. They’re Muslims, so I’m not likely to prioritize Uighur independence, but I can see why they would.

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  110. She points out the employees of the Sushi place are Chinese, not Japanese.

    So iSteve, you don’t suppose the Chinese were in a state of less than voluntary servitude? What is their immigration status, H-1Sushi?

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  111. @anon
    Trust me . they aren't here. Detroit has a small Hispanic community , its centered in Southwest Detroit. Southwest is also full of White biker gangs and being adjacent to Dearborn also has a Muslim section and believe it or not a Gypsy section. Salvadorans are a small part of the Hispanic population , which is overwhelmingly Mexican.

    MS13 isn't running shit here. Weed is king here , everyone is obsessed with it. The city runs on blunts and newports. The blacks sell all the weed on the streets and Chaldeans own all the weed dispensaries. MS 13 doesn't even factor in.

    MS13 isn’t running shit here. Weed is king here , everyone is obsessed with it. The city runs on blunts and newports. The blacks sell all the weed on the streets and Chaldeans own all the weed dispensaries. MS 13 doesn’t even factor in.

    You sound like you know what you’re talking about, but Detroit is a big, majority-Black city located east of the Mississippi. So I have a hard time believing there isn’t a relatively brisk trade in cocaine (in whatever form).

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    • Replies: @anon
    They still sell crack and powder but its small potatoes compared to weed. Crack head numbers are dwindling and mostly older . Not many 13-30 year old crack heads these days . But people in the hood start smoking weed around age 10. I see twelve or thirteen year old kids smoking with there parents regularly. There is no stigma , its like sharing a pizza with their kids in their mind.

    Basically 90% of people over 10 years old in Detroit smoke weed. Maybe 3% of people over 10 years old in Detroit smoke crack or do coke.
  112. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    Firing her is a sign that Asians are gaining in racial status in the US. I’ve never heard of an Asian being fired for racial remarks against whites. This is actually a milestone in racial equality.

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  113. anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    “is an anti-white racist jerk”

    I hope the standard for racism hasn’t declined so much that making rude remarks about a race makes you a racist. Look at you Steve. You make a lot of rude comments about blacks. By your standard that would make you a huge anti black racist ****!

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  114. A few points:

    1. The school wasn’t ‘policing Yelp reviews’. Her reviews have been circulating among students for months. Someone brought them to the attention of the administration.

    2. She’s not a millwright working for the B & G service or a bookkeeper in the accounting office. Neither is she a salaried employee in a trade with satisfactory operational measures of competence (say, the school’s construction manager or comptroller). She’s been through the paces for an academic position (PhD in social psychology), but has been working as a student affairs apparatchik for about a dozen years now (at Dartmouth, Penn, and now Yale). Her performance such as it is is bound up with her qualities as a human being and her stature among the students. Well, she’s trashed that. Ejecting her is legitimate in a way it wouldn’t be if she were an official in the bursar’s office.

    3. Note – applying their usual criteria (which will incorporate the prejudices of the tribe), they managed to hire this malodorous snob. Now, how much you want to bet that if you carefully interrogated each member of the Yale faculty, about 40% of them would end up copping to the same viewpoint? Or if you did so to a random selection of ethnic Chinese professional-managerial types, that about 20% would off the same view? She’s one of them. She grew up in an exurb of the Stamford / Norwalk / Bridgeport / New Haven urban complex, she’s lived about 85% of her life within commuting distance of an Ivy League campus (the other 15% was for graduate work at UC Davis, outside Sacramento), and she’s been associated with four of them as a student or employee (Harvard, Dartmouth, Penn, and now Yale). She’s a graduate of Bryn Mawr College. Not terribly surprising that a woman with that history caricatures the world around her.

    4. Some of her sharp edges might have been rasped off by professional failures or by the daily business of keeping a marriage together or raising children. She’s 43 years old and by all appearances a spinster. She does not appear to be a failed academic; there’s no indication she ever sought faculty employment.

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    Good points--especially #3 & 4.
    , @Johann Ricke

    Some of her sharp edges might have been rasped off by professional failures or by the daily business of keeping a marriage together or raising children. She’s 43 years old and by all appearances a spinster.
     
    At the risk of oversimplification, maybe all she needs is a jolly good rogering at periodic intervals. Then again, maybe her prickly personality gets in the way, and she's oblivious to the fact.
    , @anon
    Also .... 'classism' is intersectional. Barely, but it registers.

    There is a shortage of students from below average income groups (minus recruited athletes). Even if 'White Trash' isn't an official minority with high intersectionality points, it is a big chink in their diversity argument. Plus, identity politics has no end point, and the recent best selling book, Hillibilly Elegy, carves out white trash as an oppressed ethnic group. Never, never, never punch down -- diversity dean.

    But mostly ... as iSteve has noticed .... rich university students are the least tolerant of free speech. And desperate virtue signaling is a symptom of their fear of and need to be part of an elite that is browning by the hour.

    It's not like she was demeaning Frat Boys.

    As far whether it is fair or wise -- punishing her -- I dunno.

    Yale runs on a residential dormitory system patterned after Oxbridge Colleges. And, in fact, call themselves Colleges. Her job is to make diversity work and to that end, she is an official POC. And needs to be able to turn a micro aggression into mere misunderstanding.

    It's not like Yale was looking for it. Not a privacy issue since she was easily identifiable and made no effort to remain anonymous. Her job was solving problems but she created a highly embarrassing one.

    , @Pericles
    Excepting actual princelings, the Ivy League is basically about snobbery, isn't it? Well, the more prestigious schools, at least.
    , @Thea
    Being a spinster would make sense, given her obvious bitterness towards the lower classes. Those girls are more likely to have a husband or child than her.
  115. @TomSchmidt
    From the article: Across the country, 10 percent of all married couples — about 11 million people — were wed to someone of a different race or ethnicity as of 2015, with the most common pairing a Hispanic husband and a white wife.

    I would not have suspected that. You learn something new every day.

    The glaring flaw in this logic is that the ONLY “ethnicity” anyone keeps any records of is “Hispanic.” Imagine if the CDC kept statistics of no diseases except HIV and then claimed HIV was the most common viral disease: more common than influenza or even the common cold. It’s not remotely serious.

    It’s actually even stupider than that, because a race (white) is being conflated with an ethnicity (Hispanic); apples and oranges and all that. Millions and millions of whites are Hispanic, so to say “whites and Hispanics” are in any way different and more noteworthy than, say, “Orientals and Ainu” or “whites and Slavs” is silly.

    I’ll warrant perhaps the most common inter-ethnic pairings in the U.S.A. are between Germanic persons and Celtic persons because of the great numbers of the two ethnicities and their long history together here.

    The Hispanic nonsense, a scam
    for cash and prizes for yet another group wanting to distance itself from Europeans for that purpose, has long since got out of hand. If we wish to talk anout Amerindians or mestizos in these contexts, that makes some sense, but this “Hispanic” and “Latin” nonsense serves no purpose but to confuse and (for those of us paying attention, who know better) incite eye-rolling and laughter.

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    "Millions and millions of whites are Hispanic, so to say “whites and Hispanics” are in any way different and more noteworthy than, say, “Orientals and Ainu” or “whites and Slavs” is silly."

    Are you really comparing Hispanics to Slavs? Are you really comparing the racial demographics of Latin America to Eastern Europe?

    If Latin America is as White as Eastern Europe, than you should be pro-open borders right?

    After all it would make no sense for you to say that Hispanic is a White ethnic group but at the same time be against mass White Hispanic immigration into The U.S. If open borders helps make America a Whiter country, how can open borders be a bad thing?
  116. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Most people Americans call Hispanic don't look like Desi Arnaz; they look like Hugo Chavez, or some of the more obscure extras in "Apocalypto." Mayans and Aztecs are not out-marrying much with anybody, much less whites.

    Wasn't Desi Cuban? I had a Cuban friend politely advise me, en route to a child's baptism, that Cubans do not like to be referred to as "Hispanic" or "Latino." But this was 20 years ago.

    Desi Arnaz was European (white); Hugo Chavez was mestizo (and especially Amerindian at that; his European ancestry was obviously especially thin…).

    Both were Hispanic in the same sense that both Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby are Americans.

    This stuff is only confusing if you allow it to be by not cutting through the intentional squid-ink of the Narrative, which plays fast and loose with these things. Cf. an earlier commenter who rightly mocked the concept of a person claiming to be religiously a “secular Jew” as tantamount to one’s claiming to be religiously an “atheist American.” Neither is any religion at all.

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    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Hugo Chavez was mestizo"

    Hugo Chavez was Triracial.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Chávez#Early_life
    , @J.Ross
    ... so all Americans are rapists?
  117. @Cagey Beast
    The funny thing is even those who think they know how to walk the SJW high wire sometimes come crashing down. Just in the last week or so here in Canada we saw several White and Jewish guys come to grief over tweets on the topic of "cultural appropriation". These guys where editors, journalists and executive producers in very PC institutions but even they couldn't calibrate their moves precisely enough.

    These guys where editors, journalists and executive producers in very PC institutions but even they couldn’t calibrate their moves precisely enough.

    The ground is shifting under their feet all the time. What was OK last week might not be OK next week and no one can be quite sure in what way. Plus sacrifices are needed – pour encourager les autres – those sacrifices are going to come from the ranks of the left/libs.

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  118. “Dean Chu seems to be, in real life, a snob that feels justified in her snobbery because she has SUCCEEDED in her chosen career. She doesn’t need to actually believe that stuff in real life.”
    That´s so much more likable than the true fanatics

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  119. @Cagey Beast
    Social media is poison–and will be the death knell for many who don’t know better.

    True. Social media as it now exists will have to die off quickly if anyone's going to be left standing. I predict there will be several social media related outrages that will drive people behind pay walls, over to private apps or away from online chatting altogether. Maybe an epidemic of firings will bring about some landmark court ruling? Something's got to give when it comes to this stuff.

    Something’s got to give when it comes to this stuff.

    How so? Perhaps that “something” that will give is the ideas of “free speech” and “privacy”. Consider the traditional Medieval village, or small town, where everyone knows everyone, and reputations can be made or broken by single actions and last generations. It’s like that old joke with the punchline “but you screw one goat…”. There are certain things you just don’t say in such areas, lines and taboos you do not cross, unless you want to end up driven out or killed for being a heretic or a blasphemer or a witch.

    So maybe what we’re seeing is, thanks to the Internet, the “global village” developing the same dynamic, where saying the wrong thing will follow you the rest of your life. Perhaps we’ll adapt to social media by learning to only speak the proper pious platitudes of our global village, and keep our true opinions to ourselves when they tend toward “heresy”.

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    Yes you're right to bring up the social rules of the village and how they were enforced by people who all knew one another directly or by close association. It reminds me of Dunbar's number* of around 150 persons being the maximum comfortable size of a community for most people, across cultures and historically.

    What I think is going on now though is a kind of global village vertigo or justifiable agoraphobia as people try to apply the ever shifting rules of a theoretical global village to an ever shifting ocean of humanity. I think this is especially hard on women, who know they're supposed to be creating a safe space for their children by nagging their menfolk and enforcing social norms but none of those elements are clearly defined. Is the whole world their village and therefore their task to make safe? Are all the migrants their children or needy kin? Is the government their provider? Is Donald Trump the chieftain of the village? Is that alright or intolerable? All of this swirls faster and faster in their social media hive mind. It's going to break.

    Perhaps that “something” that will give is the ideas of “free speech” and “privacy”.

    Yes, 18th to 20th century liberal concepts like free speech might not make it very far into this century. Maybe they'll fall away as the long Anglo-European winning streak comes to a close for good? I hope not but it seems likely.


    On the technical side, it seems like everyone whose job it is to come up with big ideas about the internet are aiming at tightening the circles of trust and authority. The world wide web is too wide open for a whole long list of reasons. Blockchain technology, Douglas Crockford's Seif Project, Brendan Eich's Brave browser and Basic Attention Token projects all point to a pressing need to tighten up and clarify who is speaking to whom and what data is being broadcast "out there" to everyone and no one.

    I only bring these things up to suggest it may be far easier in the near future to tighten our online social circle to resemble the Dunbar number. That could help cure SJW hysteria in the long run. Twitter and Facebook style outrage epidemics will have far more trouble jumping from Dunbar cluster to Dunbar cluster. That would be a lot better for the mental hygiene of all of us.

    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number

  120. @Anonymous
    "June Chu’s hatred of White people is purely racial and has nothing to do with class/economics."

    If you actually look closely at this case, I think you have it backwards. And I say this as someone who is sympathetic to the view that much diversity-mongering/SJWism amounts to nothing more than proving that cishet white men are BAD.

    In fact, I think this case is actually more interesting than people are letting on. For Dean Chu, it seems that being an SJW is "just a job". I see NO sign of ideological SJWism in her yelp reviews. Instead, they seem to reveal her as she "really" is: a wannabe hipster snob with a high-class job. She plays that role in a distinctly Chinese-American way, but ultimately it is the snobbery that stands out.

    If you read her reviews, she shows a disdain not only for low-class whites, but also low-class blacks and Asians. Her comment about a movie theater not being "sketch" (I think she spelled it exactly that way) is a dig at New Haven blacks. Her comment about the workers at a "Japanese" restaurant being Chinese is a dig a low-class Chinese workers. She is "allowed" to make this comment because she is Chinese herself, so it seems... But she is the RIGHT sort of Chinese person, the sort that has the right sort of job and the right place in society.

    It seems that people are framing this story as involving either: 1) whether the left has to punish one of their own in order not to appear utterly hypocritical, or 2) (as Steve frames it above) whether it is actually a good thing that employers are monitoring online postings, even if they do so "non-ideologically". But it really seems to me that this case aligns with another theme that Steve has pushed in many posts, that SJWism is really a career path. Dean Chu seems to be, in real life, a snob that feels justified in her snobbery because she has SUCCEEDED in her chosen career. She doesn't need to actually believe that stuff in real life.

    But it really seems to me that this case aligns with another theme that Steve has pushed in many posts, that SJWism is really a career path. Dean Chu seems to be, in real life, a snob that feels justified in her snobbery because she has SUCCEEDED in her chosen career.

    Agreed. I commented above that Chu appears to have been hired as a professional Asian–as in SJWism as a career path. And as I remarked to some friends, Chu’s bio on the Yale web site reads like a dating profile–a perfect merger of social media and SJWism.

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  121. Am I alone in thinking “hireling” is more respectful a term than “employee”, which implies being used (not to mention femininity with the -ee)?

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  122. @Art Deco
    A few points:

    1. The school wasn't 'policing Yelp reviews'. Her reviews have been circulating among students for months. Someone brought them to the attention of the administration.

    2. She's not a millwright working for the B & G service or a bookkeeper in the accounting office. Neither is she a salaried employee in a trade with satisfactory operational measures of competence (say, the school's construction manager or comptroller). She's been through the paces for an academic position (PhD in social psychology), but has been working as a student affairs apparatchik for about a dozen years now (at Dartmouth, Penn, and now Yale). Her performance such as it is is bound up with her qualities as a human being and her stature among the students. Well, she's trashed that. Ejecting her is legitimate in a way it wouldn't be if she were an official in the bursar's office.

    3. Note - applying their usual criteria (which will incorporate the prejudices of the tribe), they managed to hire this malodorous snob. Now, how much you want to bet that if you carefully interrogated each member of the Yale faculty, about 40% of them would end up copping to the same viewpoint? Or if you did so to a random selection of ethnic Chinese professional-managerial types, that about 20% would off the same view? She's one of them. She grew up in an exurb of the Stamford / Norwalk / Bridgeport / New Haven urban complex, she's lived about 85% of her life within commuting distance of an Ivy League campus (the other 15% was for graduate work at UC Davis, outside Sacramento), and she's been associated with four of them as a student or employee (Harvard, Dartmouth, Penn, and now Yale). She's a graduate of Bryn Mawr College. Not terribly surprising that a woman with that history caricatures the world around her.

    4. Some of her sharp edges might have been rasped off by professional failures or by the daily business of keeping a marriage together or raising children. She's 43 years old and by all appearances a spinster. She does not appear to be a failed academic; there's no indication she ever sought faculty employment.

    Good points–especially #3 & 4.

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  123. @Anonymous
    "June Chu’s hatred of White people is purely racial and has nothing to do with class/economics."

    If you actually look closely at this case, I think you have it backwards. And I say this as someone who is sympathetic to the view that much diversity-mongering/SJWism amounts to nothing more than proving that cishet white men are BAD.

    In fact, I think this case is actually more interesting than people are letting on. For Dean Chu, it seems that being an SJW is "just a job". I see NO sign of ideological SJWism in her yelp reviews. Instead, they seem to reveal her as she "really" is: a wannabe hipster snob with a high-class job. She plays that role in a distinctly Chinese-American way, but ultimately it is the snobbery that stands out.

    If you read her reviews, she shows a disdain not only for low-class whites, but also low-class blacks and Asians. Her comment about a movie theater not being "sketch" (I think she spelled it exactly that way) is a dig at New Haven blacks. Her comment about the workers at a "Japanese" restaurant being Chinese is a dig a low-class Chinese workers. She is "allowed" to make this comment because she is Chinese herself, so it seems... But she is the RIGHT sort of Chinese person, the sort that has the right sort of job and the right place in society.

    It seems that people are framing this story as involving either: 1) whether the left has to punish one of their own in order not to appear utterly hypocritical, or 2) (as Steve frames it above) whether it is actually a good thing that employers are monitoring online postings, even if they do so "non-ideologically". But it really seems to me that this case aligns with another theme that Steve has pushed in many posts, that SJWism is really a career path. Dean Chu seems to be, in real life, a snob that feels justified in her snobbery because she has SUCCEEDED in her chosen career. She doesn't need to actually believe that stuff in real life.

    I tend to agree here. Americans are so used to obsessing over any identity they can manufacture-except class- that they tend to miss distinct class overtones. I’ve gotten into a number of debates over the last couple of years where the other debater was framing the debate clearly along class issues, but was scaffolding it in the most abstract way in an attempt to make it racial/ethnic.

    Class became an issue in 2016, but because people couldn’t disentangle it from race and other stuff, they didn’t see it coming.

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  124. @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    I was reading an article saying that "now corporations realize that cultural fit is often more important than technical competence in filling jobs."

    Which made me think this is cover for weeding out bad thinkers, wreckers, and noticers...

    So I did a couple of Ngram searches, (which I don't have access to right now) and "corporate fit" seemed to take off in the early 90s when PC got going.
    Also noticed that the terms Human Resources and Human Capital started shooting up right after... 1965

    Also noticed that the terms Human Resources and Human Capital started shooting up right after… 1965

    In the old days, those offices were called “Personnel”, because they dealt with,………..persons.

    Now they are called “Human Resources”, which is supposed to make us feel better somehow, because now we are just………………..resources – like timber or iron ore.

    I’ve noticed that SHRM, The Society for Human Resource Management, are now agressively marketing themselves. They are touting their credentialling authority and pushing themselves as as the only proper gate-keepers who can be relied upon to enforce the right kind of HR policy.

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  125. @Barnard

    But do we really need employers policing their employees’ Yelp reviews?
     
    Of course not, but they are already policing the rest of social media, this is a natural extension of that.

    I think Yale figured if they wanted to have any claim at all to consistently promoting their "values" this low level, insignificant employee had to be punished. It would be interesting to see what they would have done if she had been a member of a different race though.

    Yale clearly needed to repair the chink in the armor of the PC Matrix.

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  126. @anonymous
    Those brown people have a name. Neapolitans.

    “Those brown people have a name. Neapolitans”

    Don’t forget Sicilians and Calabrians.

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  127. @Autochthon
    Desi Arnaz was European (white); Hugo Chavez was mestizo (and especially Amerindian at that; his European ancestry was obviously especially thin...).

    Both were Hispanic in the same sense that both Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby are Americans.

    This stuff is only confusing if you allow it to be by not cutting through the intentional squid-ink of the Narrative, which plays fast and loose with these things. Cf. an earlier commenter who rightly mocked the concept of a person claiming to be religiously a "secular Jew" as tantamount to one's claiming to be religiously an "atheist American." Neither is any religion at all.

    “Hugo Chavez was mestizo”

    Hugo Chavez was Triracial.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Chávez#Early_life

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    Only making my point a fortiori, thank you. (I never investigated the man's background; I only know his mere appearance made it clear he was not European...)
  128. @Autochthon
    The glaring flaw in this logic is that the ONLY "ethnicity" anyone keeps any records of is "Hispanic." Imagine if the CDC kept statistics of no diseases except HIV and then claimed HIV was the most common viral disease: more common than influenza or even the common cold. It's not remotely serious.

    It's actually even stupider than that, because a race (white) is being conflated with an ethnicity (Hispanic); apples and oranges and all that. Millions and millions of whites are Hispanic, so to say "whites and Hispanics" are in any way different and more noteworthy than, say, "Orientals and Ainu" or "whites and Slavs" is silly.

    I'll warrant perhaps the most common inter-ethnic pairings in the U.S.A. are between Germanic persons and Celtic persons because of the great numbers of the two ethnicities and their long history together here.

    The Hispanic nonsense, a scam
    for cash and prizes for yet another group wanting to distance itself from Europeans for that purpose, has long since got out of hand. If we wish to talk anout Amerindians or mestizos in these contexts, that makes some sense, but this "Hispanic" and "Latin" nonsense serves no purpose but to confuse and (for those of us paying attention, who know better) incite eye-rolling and laughter.

    “Millions and millions of whites are Hispanic, so to say “whites and Hispanics” are in any way different and more noteworthy than, say, “Orientals and Ainu” or “whites and Slavs” is silly.”

    Are you really comparing Hispanics to Slavs? Are you really comparing the racial demographics of Latin America to Eastern Europe?

    If Latin America is as White as Eastern Europe, than you should be pro-open borders right?

    After all it would make no sense for you to say that Hispanic is a White ethnic group but at the same time be against mass White Hispanic immigration into The U.S. If open borders helps make America a Whiter country, how can open borders be a bad thing?

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    Are you really conflating an analogy with an identity?

    Are you really not aware that (white) Hispanics are a subset of whites, just as Slavs are a subset of whites, and that mestizo Hispanics are nothing to do with my point? (As was made clear by my explicitly stating that differentiating mestizos and Amerindians – Hispanic or otherwise – makes sense, whereas merely differentiating Hispanics, overbroadly defined to include three races – blacks, whites, Amerindians – and cominations thereof makes no sense at all because it unhelpfully differentiates Hispanic whites from other whites.)

    Your last paragraph has nothing much to do with anything I wrote. If I understand your questions correctly, though, my answer is that any immigration is bad; we are full up, thanks very much, be you from England, Iceland, Swaziland, or Thailand; be ye white, black, brown, or purple with pink polka-dots.

    That made clear, if you put a gun to my head and demanded I accept someone, yes: I certainly prefer white Hispanics like Penelope Cruz to mestizos like Alicia Machado or mongrels like Hugo Chavez.

  129. @Kevin C.

    Something’s got to give when it comes to this stuff.
     
    How so? Perhaps that "something" that will give is the ideas of "free speech" and "privacy". Consider the traditional Medieval village, or small town, where everyone knows everyone, and reputations can be made or broken by single actions and last generations. It's like that old joke with the punchline "but you screw one goat…". There are certain things you just don't say in such areas, lines and taboos you do not cross, unless you want to end up driven out or killed for being a heretic or a blasphemer or a witch.

    So maybe what we're seeing is, thanks to the Internet, the "global village" developing the same dynamic, where saying the wrong thing will follow you the rest of your life. Perhaps we'll adapt to social media by learning to only speak the proper pious platitudes of our global village, and keep our true opinions to ourselves when they tend toward "heresy".

    Yes you’re right to bring up the social rules of the village and how they were enforced by people who all knew one another directly or by close association. It reminds me of Dunbar’s number* of around 150 persons being the maximum comfortable size of a community for most people, across cultures and historically.

    What I think is going on now though is a kind of global village vertigo or justifiable agoraphobia as people try to apply the ever shifting rules of a theoretical global village to an ever shifting ocean of humanity. I think this is especially hard on women, who know they’re supposed to be creating a safe space for their children by nagging their menfolk and enforcing social norms but none of those elements are clearly defined. Is the whole world their village and therefore their task to make safe? Are all the migrants their children or needy kin? Is the government their provider? Is Donald Trump the chieftain of the village? Is that alright or intolerable? All of this swirls faster and faster in their social media hive mind. It’s going to break.

    Perhaps that “something” that will give is the ideas of “free speech” and “privacy”.

    Yes, 18th to 20th century liberal concepts like free speech might not make it very far into this century. Maybe they’ll fall away as the long Anglo-European winning streak comes to a close for good? I hope not but it seems likely.

    On the technical side, it seems like everyone whose job it is to come up with big ideas about the internet are aiming at tightening the circles of trust and authority. The world wide web is too wide open for a whole long list of reasons. Blockchain technology, Douglas Crockford’s Seif Project, Brendan Eich’s Brave browser and Basic Attention Token projects all point to a pressing need to tighten up and clarify who is speaking to whom and what data is being broadcast “out there” to everyone and no one.

    I only bring these things up to suggest it may be far easier in the near future to tighten our online social circle to resemble the Dunbar number. That could help cure SJW hysteria in the long run. Twitter and Facebook style outrage epidemics will have far more trouble jumping from Dunbar cluster to Dunbar cluster. That would be a lot better for the mental hygiene of all of us.

    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number

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  130. @Anonym
    I agree with you, Jack. If you eat bad oysters you'll probably wish you were dead.

    And concur with the sushi. If it's only cooked meat/fish and vegetables in sushi it's harder to screw up but for genuine raw fish, I would not trust Chinese or Mexicans either.

    “would not trust Chinese or Mexicans either.”

    But Mexicans are a White ethnic group according to many people here on The Unz. So why wouldn’t trust them?

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  131. @Stan Adams
    Yes, he was.

    Cubans are white, yes, but what are they if not Hispanic? Large swaths of Dade County are as Latin in character as any urbanized area in this hemisphere. You can live in Miami for years, even decades, without ever needing to know a word of English.

    As an unrepentant Anglo, I have been reminded on more than one occasion that Anglos did not make Miami what it is today, and that it is no longer Anglo turf. There was "nothing here" before the exiles started coming over in the '60s. (My great-grandfather was here long before they came - he survived the Big One of 1926 - but never mind.)

    I'm not saying I don't like Cubans, but I am saying that there are some Cubans who I don't like. But there are an awful lot of Anglos who I don't like, either. And my Spanish is serviceable. (I've been told that my accent is perfect, but my rhythm is off, like I'm speaking phonetically.)

    There are a lot more Teutons hanging around Miami than you might think. And a fair number of Slavic gals, if that's your thing.

    My Spanish is a lot better than my German. I've been told that, when speaking the latter, I sound like I have Down's syndrome. (One must admire Teutonic direktness.)

    “Cubans are white, yes, but what are they if not Hispanic?”

    They’re Cubano, man. Hispanics come from Hispanola, and only half of that (Dominica) speaks spanish. Home of some of the hottest women in the region and NYC … ask any Latino, Hispanic, Cubano, Chicano, whatever.

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  132. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    MS13 isn’t running shit here. Weed is king here , everyone is obsessed with it. The city runs on blunts and newports. The blacks sell all the weed on the streets and Chaldeans own all the weed dispensaries. MS 13 doesn’t even factor in.
     
    You sound like you know what you're talking about, but Detroit is a big, majority-Black city located east of the Mississippi. So I have a hard time believing there isn't a relatively brisk trade in cocaine (in whatever form).

    They still sell crack and powder but its small potatoes compared to weed. Crack head numbers are dwindling and mostly older . Not many 13-30 year old crack heads these days . But people in the hood start smoking weed around age 10. I see twelve or thirteen year old kids smoking with there parents regularly. There is no stigma , its like sharing a pizza with their kids in their mind.

    Basically 90% of people over 10 years old in Detroit smoke weed. Maybe 3% of people over 10 years old in Detroit smoke crack or do coke.

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  133. @Jefferson
    "Cubans are white"

    Most Cubans are not White when you include the ones who never left the island. Also Cuban "Whites" are more likely to be a little bit Black in their DNA family tree than White Americans.

    Quite true.

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  134. Call the lady who said “white trash” yellow trash all you want, but don’t demand that her employer suspend or fire her if she wasn’t abusing coworkers or students with this talk or attitude. That’s buying into the PC paradigm that needs to be destroyed.

    The world will not become a better place if university administrators of Asian origin stop using the phrase “white trash” outside of work (I frequently use it myself.) The world will become a better place if PC is ignored by everyone. Or at least not lifted up as a foundational morality.

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    No one here is demanding she be fired. Yale has determined (correctly) that she failed to adhere to Yale's values regarding speech -- she was mean. And these were low wage workers -- who deserve to be treated with respect and human dignity in every interaction.

    Yale is simply being consistent. And once Who/whom decides every historically marginalized group needs to be protected, there is no room to vent about one's feeling of displeasure about the quality of the work product of minimum wage employees. At least not without trying to do it anonymously. Her utter lack of consciousness about this meant she was beyond redemption.
  135. @Jack D
    Ceviche is more Peruvian than Mexican and is not raw - the fish is "cooked" with the acid in the citrus juice. I would rather die than eat a raw oyster in Mexico. In fact if I ate a raw oyster in Mexico I probably would die, or at least get pretty sick. Oysters are filter feeders so if they are filtering sewage contaminated water then they accumulate human bacteria, viruses, etc.

    Japanese are known for their obsessive cleanliness and attention to detail. Mexicans and Chinese - not so much.

    If you think sushi is just chopping up some raw fish then watch Jiro Dreams of Sushi . Top grade sushi is just chopped raw fish in the same way that Petrus is just fermented grape juice or a Rembrandt painting is just some pigment smeared onto a piece of canvas.

    How often do you think the Japanese in Japan eat “top grade sushi”?

    They get their sushi at 7-Eleven, too, you know? Lots of it. And sometimes, they even make sushi at home (when they’re not eating cup noodles, that is). Those that my friends have made for me looked and tasted positively amateurish. You can probably find better at American grocery stores.

    In China, they happily eat Chinese-cooked Japanese food. Obviously, there’s a difference between establishments that cater to a Japanese clientele and those that cater to a local one, but the kitchen staff is pretty much always Chinese. Not too many Japanese line cooks clamoring to work in China.

    The Japanese are a proud people with an exquisite culture, but food snobbery and “authenticity” fetishism are distinctly American. Edible Rembrandt? Riiiight. You should invite fellow gourmet Dean Chu out to dinner. I hear she’s not doing much these days.

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  136. @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    I was reading an article saying that "now corporations realize that cultural fit is often more important than technical competence in filling jobs."

    Which made me think this is cover for weeding out bad thinkers, wreckers, and noticers...

    So I did a couple of Ngram searches, (which I don't have access to right now) and "corporate fit" seemed to take off in the early 90s when PC got going.
    Also noticed that the terms Human Resources and Human Capital started shooting up right after... 1965

    I think it has more to do with youthful Start Up culture. (‘Corporate Culture’ is code for young and fun loving) It’s also an acknowledgement that most jobs have an IQ and experience threshold but are not staffed much more productively beyond it and hiring to have a harmonious workforce probably does increase productivity. You should never have to put up with a Dwight unless his higher IQ does something productive.

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  137. @Jefferson
    "Hugo Chavez was mestizo"

    Hugo Chavez was Triracial.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Chávez#Early_life

    Only making my point a fortiori, thank you. (I never investigated the man’s background; I only know his mere appearance made it clear he was not European…)

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    "Only making my point a fortiori, thank you. (I never investigated the man’s background; I only know his mere appearance made it clear he was not European…)"

    The current president of Venezuela Nicolas Maduro is also racially ambiguous mystery meat just like Hugo Chavez.
  138. @Art Deco
    A few points:

    1. The school wasn't 'policing Yelp reviews'. Her reviews have been circulating among students for months. Someone brought them to the attention of the administration.

    2. She's not a millwright working for the B & G service or a bookkeeper in the accounting office. Neither is she a salaried employee in a trade with satisfactory operational measures of competence (say, the school's construction manager or comptroller). She's been through the paces for an academic position (PhD in social psychology), but has been working as a student affairs apparatchik for about a dozen years now (at Dartmouth, Penn, and now Yale). Her performance such as it is is bound up with her qualities as a human being and her stature among the students. Well, she's trashed that. Ejecting her is legitimate in a way it wouldn't be if she were an official in the bursar's office.

    3. Note - applying their usual criteria (which will incorporate the prejudices of the tribe), they managed to hire this malodorous snob. Now, how much you want to bet that if you carefully interrogated each member of the Yale faculty, about 40% of them would end up copping to the same viewpoint? Or if you did so to a random selection of ethnic Chinese professional-managerial types, that about 20% would off the same view? She's one of them. She grew up in an exurb of the Stamford / Norwalk / Bridgeport / New Haven urban complex, she's lived about 85% of her life within commuting distance of an Ivy League campus (the other 15% was for graduate work at UC Davis, outside Sacramento), and she's been associated with four of them as a student or employee (Harvard, Dartmouth, Penn, and now Yale). She's a graduate of Bryn Mawr College. Not terribly surprising that a woman with that history caricatures the world around her.

    4. Some of her sharp edges might have been rasped off by professional failures or by the daily business of keeping a marriage together or raising children. She's 43 years old and by all appearances a spinster. She does not appear to be a failed academic; there's no indication she ever sought faculty employment.

    Some of her sharp edges might have been rasped off by professional failures or by the daily business of keeping a marriage together or raising children. She’s 43 years old and by all appearances a spinster.

    At the risk of oversimplification, maybe all she needs is a jolly good rogering at periodic intervals. Then again, maybe her prickly personality gets in the way, and she’s oblivious to the fact.

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  139. @Autochthon
    Only making my point a fortiori, thank you. (I never investigated the man's background; I only know his mere appearance made it clear he was not European...)

    “Only making my point a fortiori, thank you. (I never investigated the man’s background; I only know his mere appearance made it clear he was not European…)”

    The current president of Venezuela Nicolas Maduro is also racially ambiguous mystery meat just like Hugo Chavez.

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  140. @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    I was reading an article saying that "now corporations realize that cultural fit is often more important than technical competence in filling jobs."

    Which made me think this is cover for weeding out bad thinkers, wreckers, and noticers...

    So I did a couple of Ngram searches, (which I don't have access to right now) and "corporate fit" seemed to take off in the early 90s when PC got going.
    Also noticed that the terms Human Resources and Human Capital started shooting up right after... 1965

    I have extensive experience and expertise with hiring in corporate contexts. “Cultural fit” and the like is, as often as not, simply legal cover for everything from “we don’t want to hire any more white people” to “this guy is too old” or “Did you see how he was dressed? Can you imagine that dork at happy hour? Ugh, no way!”

    No way is any of that stuff ever being written down, so it all becomes a concern about “cultural fit” in the interviewer’s evaluation. That said, there is another side of the coin, and it is what you mention: lare corporations hate hate hate tall poppies or anyone who does not embrace “The [IBM, Coca-Cola, Ford, Google...] Way [of doing things and approaching work].”

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    lare corporations hate hate hate tall poppies or anyone who does not embrace “The [IBM, Coca-Cola, Ford, Google...] Way [of doing things and approaching work].”

    If what they're doing is working then I can understand them not wanting to hire someone with big ideas to change it.

    I just talked to a guy who did some hiring for a large company and he said he wasn't interested in people who want to "think outside the box". He wants them to learn the system and do good work before they come up with ideas for changing stuff. Sounded pretty wise to me.
    He also said the applicants with masters degrees had a bit of swagger so he chose the BS's and BA's instead.
  141. @Reg Cæsar

    But do we really need employers policing their employees’ Yelp reviews?

     

    A teacher in Jersey– the new one– was fired for quoting the OT on the consequences of buggery. A teacher in Michigan spread a picture online which pulled a George-W-Bush on Michelle Obama, and was fired for that.

    There wasn't a peep out of their union(s) about such abusive behavior from their employers.

    A teacher’s aide in Georgia was fired for calling Michelle Obama a gorilla:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3820598/Teacher-fired-calling-Michelle-Obama-gorilla-Facebook.html

    Truthfully, this woman’s IQ aspires to the three-digit range.

    I had a professor who gave us extra credit for writing an essay on The Bush Dyslexicon:

    https://www.amazon.com/Bush-Dyslexicon-Observations-National-Disorder/dp/0393322963

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    The Daily Mail is one of the few media outlets that still publishes sycophantic articles about the Obamas, I assume it is because they are trying to attract Black readers.
  142. @International Jew

    One triumph of Trump was to break through the gotcha culture of death by one inopportune statement. Or so I thought.
     
    So I thought too. But for that he would have had to maintain just a bit of class. Instead, through his borderline insane behavior he's discrediting all us sane people who, at some level, support him.

    But for that he would have had to maintain just a bit of class.

    Oh come on. You cannot claim that Our President aspired to your definition of class. Really. My (remarkably skilled) noodling high school buddies would not consider the Pres to rise high enough to be in their class.

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  143. O/T: Spotted recently, in a Carlos Slim blog editorial:
    ” tightening up the visa system that lets companies in technology, finance and other white-collar fields use cheaper foreign labor to fill jobs or replace workers in the United States.”

    Wow! Seems Trump has had an effect.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/20/opinion/sunday/student-debts-economy-loans.html?ribbon-ad-idx=6&rref=opinion

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    @Art Deco
    A few points:

    1. The school wasn't 'policing Yelp reviews'. Her reviews have been circulating among students for months. Someone brought them to the attention of the administration.

    2. She's not a millwright working for the B & G service or a bookkeeper in the accounting office. Neither is she a salaried employee in a trade with satisfactory operational measures of competence (say, the school's construction manager or comptroller). She's been through the paces for an academic position (PhD in social psychology), but has been working as a student affairs apparatchik for about a dozen years now (at Dartmouth, Penn, and now Yale). Her performance such as it is is bound up with her qualities as a human being and her stature among the students. Well, she's trashed that. Ejecting her is legitimate in a way it wouldn't be if she were an official in the bursar's office.

    3. Note - applying their usual criteria (which will incorporate the prejudices of the tribe), they managed to hire this malodorous snob. Now, how much you want to bet that if you carefully interrogated each member of the Yale faculty, about 40% of them would end up copping to the same viewpoint? Or if you did so to a random selection of ethnic Chinese professional-managerial types, that about 20% would off the same view? She's one of them. She grew up in an exurb of the Stamford / Norwalk / Bridgeport / New Haven urban complex, she's lived about 85% of her life within commuting distance of an Ivy League campus (the other 15% was for graduate work at UC Davis, outside Sacramento), and she's been associated with four of them as a student or employee (Harvard, Dartmouth, Penn, and now Yale). She's a graduate of Bryn Mawr College. Not terribly surprising that a woman with that history caricatures the world around her.

    4. Some of her sharp edges might have been rasped off by professional failures or by the daily business of keeping a marriage together or raising children. She's 43 years old and by all appearances a spinster. She does not appear to be a failed academic; there's no indication she ever sought faculty employment.

    Also …. ‘classism’ is intersectional. Barely, but it registers.

    There is a shortage of students from below average income groups (minus recruited athletes). Even if ‘White Trash’ isn’t an official minority with high intersectionality points, it is a big chink in their diversity argument. Plus, identity politics has no end point, and the recent best selling book, Hillibilly Elegy, carves out white trash as an oppressed ethnic group. Never, never, never punch down — diversity dean.

    But mostly … as iSteve has noticed …. rich university students are the least tolerant of free speech. And desperate virtue signaling is a symptom of their fear of and need to be part of an elite that is browning by the hour.

    It’s not like she was demeaning Frat Boys.

    As far whether it is fair or wise — punishing her — I dunno.

    Yale runs on a residential dormitory system patterned after Oxbridge Colleges. And, in fact, call themselves Colleges. Her job is to make diversity work and to that end, she is an official POC. And needs to be able to turn a micro aggression into mere misunderstanding.

    It’s not like Yale was looking for it. Not a privacy issue since she was easily identifiable and made no effort to remain anonymous. Her job was solving problems but she created a highly embarrassing one.

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  145. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @J1234
    Call the lady who said "white trash" yellow trash all you want, but don't demand that her employer suspend or fire her if she wasn't abusing coworkers or students with this talk or attitude. That's buying into the PC paradigm that needs to be destroyed.

    The world will not become a better place if university administrators of Asian origin stop using the phrase "white trash" outside of work (I frequently use it myself.) The world will become a better place if PC is ignored by everyone. Or at least not lifted up as a foundational morality.

    No one here is demanding she be fired. Yale has determined (correctly) that she failed to adhere to Yale’s values regarding speech — she was mean. And these were low wage workers — who deserve to be treated with respect and human dignity in every interaction.

    Yale is simply being consistent. And once Who/whom decides every historically marginalized group needs to be protected, there is no room to vent about one’s feeling of displeasure about the quality of the work product of minimum wage employees. At least not without trying to do it anonymously. Her utter lack of consciousness about this meant she was beyond redemption.

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    Yale is simply being consistent.
     
    Yale is being consistently wrong. Not something to applaud, really, but I suppose it's better than being inconsistently wrong. Not much, though.

    It's incorrect to see this as a measure to treat white people fairly. This is throwing a bone to whites so they might complain less when institutionalized political correctness is used to bring them down, as a group. It was likely the phrase "white trash" that got this lady in trouble, not the speech of denigrating whites. It's a "slur". If she had said what she said about whites without the slur, she probably wouldn't have been punished. It's a slight of hand by Yale.

    This guy doesn't use slurs, but uses PC as a means to denigrate whites as a group. He doesn't get punished, even though what he says is far worse than what the Asian chick said. He never will. No, he doesn't work at Yale, but the political and social environments are similar.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev

    Nor will the thousands of other academics who use the same tactic.

  146. It’s worth noting that, according to Yale, Dean Chu misrepresented the number of potentially offensive reviews she had posted. From a statement by College Head Stephen Davis to Yale students:

    “When I wrote to you on Saturday morning, it was with the understanding — and under assurance from Dean Chu, an assurance given to me and to others — that she had posted only two troubling reviews on social media,” Davis said. “On Saturday evening, I found out that she was in fact responsible for multiple reprehensible posts, enough to represent a more widespread pattern. The additional posts that surfaced compounded the harm of the initial two, and they also further damaged my trust and confidence in Dean Chu’s accountability to me and ability to lead the students of Pierson College.”

    This certainly would have made Yale less forgiving of Chu’s thought crimes, not that I think that what she said was such a big deal. It seems pretty clear that she was trying to make her reviews amusing, and she assumed that taking a few shots at working class whites, plus the “sketchy” inhabitants of New Haven, wouldn’t cause any furor. I’m sure that faculty and student body of Yale make such comments — and much worse — all the time, and the town vs. gown dynamic is pretty old news. However, Yale is already under criticism for having taken seriously a list of witless, childish demands following an email about Halloween costumes, and the current situation has presented an opportunity for Yale to demonstrate that it can over-react to allegations of racial/ethnic/class trangressions in a even-handed manner.

    Lying about how many such reviews she’d posted wasn’t a great idea on Dean Chu’s part, though I guess she could argue that she’s hardly the one to know how many of her reviews were offensive, since she apparently didn’t see any of them as offensive when she was posting them.

    I do wonder how much her Asian-American background affected her judgement here. The shifting standards of what constitutes offensive speech are hard enough for up-to-date, porgressive-minded, in-the-bubble White Americans to keep track of, and since, on some level, most Asians find this a perverse and bizarre American obsession, I have some sympathy for her inability to keep up with who you can and can’t make jokes about during any particular phase of the lunar cycle.

    Case in point: at a Canadian university, Lou Reed’s “Take a Walk on the Wild Side” has now been deemed transphobic:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/news/walk-wild-side-transphobic-student-group-issues-apology-playing/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_fb

    Apparently, the part about, “And the colored girls go do, dah do, dah do, dah do, dah do . . .” is no problem at all. Go figure!

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    Case in point: at a Canadian university, Lou Reed’s “Take a Walk on the Wild Side” has now been deemed transphobic

     

    Indeed so.

    Holly came from Miami F.L.A.
    Hitch-hiked her way across the U.S.A.
    Plucked her eyebrows on the way
    Shaved her legs and then he was a she
     
    It is insulting to demand that women shave their legs.
    , @Art Deco
    not that I think that what she said was such a big deal.

    Again, she's a salaried employee without discrete skills. Satisfactory performance is 'no incidents, please'. This is an incident, so it is a deal.

    I'm wagering she did not lie to her superordinate. She just doesn't know what bothers other people, or why.
    , @Gary in Gramercy
    Talk about coincidence, or serendipity, or whatever: as I'm reading these most recent comments, I'm listening to the first Velvet Underground album, w/Nico, the one with the banana on the cover. Lou's making his way through "I'm Waiting For The Man," a song about white boys going up to Harlem to score dope from The Man (i.e., The Dealer), and there's this verse:

    Here he comes, he's all dressed in black
    P.R. shoes [anti-Hispanic slur, no doubt], and a big straw hat
    He's never early, he's always late [why don't you just come right out and say, "CPT," Lou?]
    First thing you learn is that you always gotta wait. [Totally class-ist: how dare Reed impose his own middle-class notion of fixed time, with artificial demarcations between "early" and "late," as if everyone takes the 5:42 LIRR train back to Freeport.]
    I'm waiting for my man. [What makes him yours? Just because you're a client, and help keep him in business? Typical white privilege; even a century and a half after the end of slavery in this country, white people still think they "own" black people. An insult, and an outrage.]

    Don't get me started on "Heroin" or "Venus In Furs." Not to mention "Make Up" from Transformer. And, of course, "Sister Ray" is totally unmentionable, because, well, you know,...

  147. @Anon

    "Today I am grieving because I no longer can envision such a way forward." (--Master of Pierson College)
     
    Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you're grieving over this, sir, what do you do when your wife, or--even worse--your dog dies??

    When his wife, children or pets are killed, he will be forgiving.

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  148. @Anonymous
    She sounds like a pathetic person, but there is nothing illegal about being pathetic.

    People who don't like her behaviour should just not bother associating with her. That's the 'punishment'. Unless it's something she brings to work with her, I don't think her employers should involve themselves.

    We need to be governed by clearly stated and impartial rules and laws. It's the only way. Almost anything one says or does -- even ones existence is sure to offend somebody... so hurt feelings can't be the guide as to whether somebody keeps their job.

    I really don't like Asian immigrants calling Americans 'White Trash', so I'd avoid this lady like the plague and give her a very cold shoulder if approached by her. But I wouldn't seek to have her fired from her job.

    I’d avoid this lady like the plague and give her a very cold shoulder if approached by her.

    And then she could in a high dudgeon sue your racist ass and get you fired.

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  149. @Art Deco
    A few points:

    1. The school wasn't 'policing Yelp reviews'. Her reviews have been circulating among students for months. Someone brought them to the attention of the administration.

    2. She's not a millwright working for the B & G service or a bookkeeper in the accounting office. Neither is she a salaried employee in a trade with satisfactory operational measures of competence (say, the school's construction manager or comptroller). She's been through the paces for an academic position (PhD in social psychology), but has been working as a student affairs apparatchik for about a dozen years now (at Dartmouth, Penn, and now Yale). Her performance such as it is is bound up with her qualities as a human being and her stature among the students. Well, she's trashed that. Ejecting her is legitimate in a way it wouldn't be if she were an official in the bursar's office.

    3. Note - applying their usual criteria (which will incorporate the prejudices of the tribe), they managed to hire this malodorous snob. Now, how much you want to bet that if you carefully interrogated each member of the Yale faculty, about 40% of them would end up copping to the same viewpoint? Or if you did so to a random selection of ethnic Chinese professional-managerial types, that about 20% would off the same view? She's one of them. She grew up in an exurb of the Stamford / Norwalk / Bridgeport / New Haven urban complex, she's lived about 85% of her life within commuting distance of an Ivy League campus (the other 15% was for graduate work at UC Davis, outside Sacramento), and she's been associated with four of them as a student or employee (Harvard, Dartmouth, Penn, and now Yale). She's a graduate of Bryn Mawr College. Not terribly surprising that a woman with that history caricatures the world around her.

    4. Some of her sharp edges might have been rasped off by professional failures or by the daily business of keeping a marriage together or raising children. She's 43 years old and by all appearances a spinster. She does not appear to be a failed academic; there's no indication she ever sought faculty employment.

    Excepting actual princelings, the Ivy League is basically about snobbery, isn’t it? Well, the more prestigious schools, at least.

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    I think in the last 25 years the idea has begun to germinate in the country at large that what private research universities with cachet do is pool students who bring something to the table much more than they provide something at that table. Thomas Sowell in particular was an occasional promoter of state universities in his later years, contending that longitudinal research had demonstrated that the career trajectories of those attending Ivies and such and those admitted but attending state schools were about the same.
  150. @black sea
    It's worth noting that, according to Yale, Dean Chu misrepresented the number of potentially offensive reviews she had posted. From a statement by College Head Stephen Davis to Yale students:

    "When I wrote to you on Saturday morning, it was with the understanding — and under assurance from Dean Chu, an assurance given to me and to others — that she had posted only two troubling reviews on social media," Davis said. "On Saturday evening, I found out that she was in fact responsible for multiple reprehensible posts, enough to represent a more widespread pattern. The additional posts that surfaced compounded the harm of the initial two, and they also further damaged my trust and confidence in Dean Chu's accountability to me and ability to lead the students of Pierson College."
     
    This certainly would have made Yale less forgiving of Chu's thought crimes, not that I think that what she said was such a big deal. It seems pretty clear that she was trying to make her reviews amusing, and she assumed that taking a few shots at working class whites, plus the "sketchy" inhabitants of New Haven, wouldn't cause any furor. I'm sure that faculty and student body of Yale make such comments -- and much worse -- all the time, and the town vs. gown dynamic is pretty old news. However, Yale is already under criticism for having taken seriously a list of witless, childish demands following an email about Halloween costumes, and the current situation has presented an opportunity for Yale to demonstrate that it can over-react to allegations of racial/ethnic/class trangressions in a even-handed manner.

    Lying about how many such reviews she'd posted wasn't a great idea on Dean Chu's part, though I guess she could argue that she's hardly the one to know how many of her reviews were offensive, since she apparently didn't see any of them as offensive when she was posting them.

    I do wonder how much her Asian-American background affected her judgement here. The shifting standards of what constitutes offensive speech are hard enough for up-to-date, porgressive-minded, in-the-bubble White Americans to keep track of, and since, on some level, most Asians find this a perverse and bizarre American obsession, I have some sympathy for her inability to keep up with who you can and can't make jokes about during any particular phase of the lunar cycle.

    Case in point: at a Canadian university, Lou Reed's "Take a Walk on the Wild Side" has now been deemed transphobic:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/news/walk-wild-side-transphobic-student-group-issues-apology-playing/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_fb

    Apparently, the part about, "And the colored girls go do, dah do, dah do, dah do, dah do . . ." is no problem at all. Go figure!

    Case in point: at a Canadian university, Lou Reed’s “Take a Walk on the Wild Side” has now been deemed transphobic

    Indeed so.

    Holly came from Miami F.L.A.
    Hitch-hiked her way across the U.S.A.
    Plucked her eyebrows on the way
    Shaved her legs and then he was a she

    It is insulting to demand that women shave their legs.

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  151. @anon
    Also .... 'classism' is intersectional. Barely, but it registers.

    There is a shortage of students from below average income groups (minus recruited athletes). Even if 'White Trash' isn't an official minority with high intersectionality points, it is a big chink in their diversity argument. Plus, identity politics has no end point, and the recent best selling book, Hillibilly Elegy, carves out white trash as an oppressed ethnic group. Never, never, never punch down -- diversity dean.

    But mostly ... as iSteve has noticed .... rich university students are the least tolerant of free speech. And desperate virtue signaling is a symptom of their fear of and need to be part of an elite that is browning by the hour.

    It's not like she was demeaning Frat Boys.

    As far whether it is fair or wise -- punishing her -- I dunno.

    Yale runs on a residential dormitory system patterned after Oxbridge Colleges. And, in fact, call themselves Colleges. Her job is to make diversity work and to that end, she is an official POC. And needs to be able to turn a micro aggression into mere misunderstanding.

    It's not like Yale was looking for it. Not a privacy issue since she was easily identifiable and made no effort to remain anonymous. Her job was solving problems but she created a highly embarrassing one.

    Did you really say Chink?

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  152. @black sea
    It's worth noting that, according to Yale, Dean Chu misrepresented the number of potentially offensive reviews she had posted. From a statement by College Head Stephen Davis to Yale students:

    "When I wrote to you on Saturday morning, it was with the understanding — and under assurance from Dean Chu, an assurance given to me and to others — that she had posted only two troubling reviews on social media," Davis said. "On Saturday evening, I found out that she was in fact responsible for multiple reprehensible posts, enough to represent a more widespread pattern. The additional posts that surfaced compounded the harm of the initial two, and they also further damaged my trust and confidence in Dean Chu's accountability to me and ability to lead the students of Pierson College."
     
    This certainly would have made Yale less forgiving of Chu's thought crimes, not that I think that what she said was such a big deal. It seems pretty clear that she was trying to make her reviews amusing, and she assumed that taking a few shots at working class whites, plus the "sketchy" inhabitants of New Haven, wouldn't cause any furor. I'm sure that faculty and student body of Yale make such comments -- and much worse -- all the time, and the town vs. gown dynamic is pretty old news. However, Yale is already under criticism for having taken seriously a list of witless, childish demands following an email about Halloween costumes, and the current situation has presented an opportunity for Yale to demonstrate that it can over-react to allegations of racial/ethnic/class trangressions in a even-handed manner.

    Lying about how many such reviews she'd posted wasn't a great idea on Dean Chu's part, though I guess she could argue that she's hardly the one to know how many of her reviews were offensive, since she apparently didn't see any of them as offensive when she was posting them.

    I do wonder how much her Asian-American background affected her judgement here. The shifting standards of what constitutes offensive speech are hard enough for up-to-date, porgressive-minded, in-the-bubble White Americans to keep track of, and since, on some level, most Asians find this a perverse and bizarre American obsession, I have some sympathy for her inability to keep up with who you can and can't make jokes about during any particular phase of the lunar cycle.

    Case in point: at a Canadian university, Lou Reed's "Take a Walk on the Wild Side" has now been deemed transphobic:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/news/walk-wild-side-transphobic-student-group-issues-apology-playing/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_fb

    Apparently, the part about, "And the colored girls go do, dah do, dah do, dah do, dah do . . ." is no problem at all. Go figure!

    not that I think that what she said was such a big deal.

    Again, she’s a salaried employee without discrete skills. Satisfactory performance is ‘no incidents, please’. This is an incident, so it is a deal.

    I’m wagering she did not lie to her superordinate. She just doesn’t know what bothers other people, or why.

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  153. @anon
    No one here is demanding she be fired. Yale has determined (correctly) that she failed to adhere to Yale's values regarding speech -- she was mean. And these were low wage workers -- who deserve to be treated with respect and human dignity in every interaction.

    Yale is simply being consistent. And once Who/whom decides every historically marginalized group needs to be protected, there is no room to vent about one's feeling of displeasure about the quality of the work product of minimum wage employees. At least not without trying to do it anonymously. Her utter lack of consciousness about this meant she was beyond redemption.

    Yale is simply being consistent.

    Yale is being consistently wrong. Not something to applaud, really, but I suppose it’s better than being inconsistently wrong. Not much, though.

    It’s incorrect to see this as a measure to treat white people fairly. This is throwing a bone to whites so they might complain less when institutionalized political correctness is used to bring them down, as a group. It was likely the phrase “white trash” that got this lady in trouble, not the speech of denigrating whites. It’s a “slur”. If she had said what she said about whites without the slur, she probably wouldn’t have been punished. It’s a slight of hand by Yale.

    This guy doesn’t use slurs, but uses PC as a means to denigrate whites as a group. He doesn’t get punished, even though what he says is far worse than what the Asian chick said. He never will. No, he doesn’t work at Yale, but the political and social environments are similar.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev

    Nor will the thousands of other academics who use the same tactic.

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  154. @Art Deco
    A few points:

    1. The school wasn't 'policing Yelp reviews'. Her reviews have been circulating among students for months. Someone brought them to the attention of the administration.

    2. She's not a millwright working for the B & G service or a bookkeeper in the accounting office. Neither is she a salaried employee in a trade with satisfactory operational measures of competence (say, the school's construction manager or comptroller). She's been through the paces for an academic position (PhD in social psychology), but has been working as a student affairs apparatchik for about a dozen years now (at Dartmouth, Penn, and now Yale). Her performance such as it is is bound up with her qualities as a human being and her stature among the students. Well, she's trashed that. Ejecting her is legitimate in a way it wouldn't be if she were an official in the bursar's office.

    3. Note - applying their usual criteria (which will incorporate the prejudices of the tribe), they managed to hire this malodorous snob. Now, how much you want to bet that if you carefully interrogated each member of the Yale faculty, about 40% of them would end up copping to the same viewpoint? Or if you did so to a random selection of ethnic Chinese professional-managerial types, that about 20% would off the same view? She's one of them. She grew up in an exurb of the Stamford / Norwalk / Bridgeport / New Haven urban complex, she's lived about 85% of her life within commuting distance of an Ivy League campus (the other 15% was for graduate work at UC Davis, outside Sacramento), and she's been associated with four of them as a student or employee (Harvard, Dartmouth, Penn, and now Yale). She's a graduate of Bryn Mawr College. Not terribly surprising that a woman with that history caricatures the world around her.

    4. Some of her sharp edges might have been rasped off by professional failures or by the daily business of keeping a marriage together or raising children. She's 43 years old and by all appearances a spinster. She does not appear to be a failed academic; there's no indication she ever sought faculty employment.

    Being a spinster would make sense, given her obvious bitterness towards the lower classes. Those girls are more likely to have a husband or child than her.

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  155. @Autochthon
    I have extensive experience and expertise with hiring in corporate contexts. "Cultural fit" and the like is, as often as not, simply legal cover for everything from "we don't want to hire any more white people" to "this guy is too old" or "Did you see how he was dressed? Can you imagine that dork at happy hour? Ugh, no way!"

    No way is any of that stuff ever being written down, so it all becomes a concern about "cultural fit" in the interviewer's evaluation. That said, there is another side of the coin, and it is what you mention: lare corporations hate hate hate tall poppies or anyone who does not embrace "The [IBM, Coca-Cola, Ford, Google...] Way [of doing things and approaching work]."

    lare corporations hate hate hate tall poppies or anyone who does not embrace “The [IBM, Coca-Cola, Ford, Google...] Way [of doing things and approaching work].”

    If what they’re doing is working then I can understand them not wanting to hire someone with big ideas to change it.

    I just talked to a guy who did some hiring for a large company and he said he wasn’t interested in people who want to “think outside the box”. He wants them to learn the system and do good work before they come up with ideas for changing stuff. Sounded pretty wise to me.
    He also said the applicants with masters degrees had a bit of swagger so he chose the BS’s and BA’s instead.

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    There's a 4chan comment somewhere that says that this is why engineering education grinds the way it does: weed out every innovator in favor of reliable technicians. It was posted in reply to an engineering student complaining about the apparently gratuitous monotony.
    , @Je Suis Charlie Martel
    The only problem is the rhetoric doesn't match that reality. And "outside the box thinking" rarely is.
    But everyone insists on "creativity and outside the box thinking (and doing)", while really, yes, just doing a good job consistently is mostly what is needed...
    It's like Tom Woods' "3x5 card of allowable opinion".
    "Creative doing" is then cover for inconsistent or mediocre work by protected groups...
    Everything seems to involve doublethink and double talk
  156. @Chrisnonymous
    You're both correct. Rolling is not rocket science, and Japan doesn't have the world's best cigars. However, there is a lot going on with sushi before the rolling stage, starting with the guys who vett the fishes. This is not even a matter of skill as the guys who live in the US are never even exposed to what they have to look for/do/taste. Anyway, sushi is only a very small part of Japanese cuisine.

    But I would refrain from calling Japanese cuisine the world's best. Eating it occassionally makes it taste amazing, but it doesn't scale so well in time or quantity.

    You have to go to Japan. Being a chef is an esteemed job and they have to go through a long apprenticeship. They can make intoxicating food without loading it with sugar and fat. And there is more to Japanese cuisine than sushi. Sushi is more a specialty food or occasions – eg weddings.

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    LOL. I live in Japan. And lots of Japanese food is fatty or full of sugar. Just staying with sushi as an example, sushi rice is made with sugar and the best cuts of tuna are very fatty.

    I happen to like things like seaweed, so I do pretty well here, but there is still a lot that gets old after you've eaten it a few times. Spongy soy products in particular. (And this is w/o mentioning the awful cheese, etc)
  157. @Formerly CARealist
    lare corporations hate hate hate tall poppies or anyone who does not embrace “The [IBM, Coca-Cola, Ford, Google...] Way [of doing things and approaching work].”

    If what they're doing is working then I can understand them not wanting to hire someone with big ideas to change it.

    I just talked to a guy who did some hiring for a large company and he said he wasn't interested in people who want to "think outside the box". He wants them to learn the system and do good work before they come up with ideas for changing stuff. Sounded pretty wise to me.
    He also said the applicants with masters degrees had a bit of swagger so he chose the BS's and BA's instead.

    There’s a 4chan comment somewhere that says that this is why engineering education grinds the way it does: weed out every innovator in favor of reliable technicians. It was posted in reply to an engineering student complaining about the apparently gratuitous monotony.

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  158. @Autochthon
    Desi Arnaz was European (white); Hugo Chavez was mestizo (and especially Amerindian at that; his European ancestry was obviously especially thin...).

    Both were Hispanic in the same sense that both Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby are Americans.

    This stuff is only confusing if you allow it to be by not cutting through the intentional squid-ink of the Narrative, which plays fast and loose with these things. Cf. an earlier commenter who rightly mocked the concept of a person claiming to be religiously a "secular Jew" as tantamount to one's claiming to be religiously an "atheist American." Neither is any religion at all.

    … so all Americans are rapists?

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  159. @anon
    I have to agree. Too many people on the right have the idea that, if we treat the left in a certain way, then the left might turn around and treat us the same way.

    Only problem with that is, they're going to treat us that way whether we fight back or not, so we might as well.

    On the other hand, you could argue that, if we don't, and we point out that we're not the kind of people to do that, we might convince people that our side is just better.

    That seems to be the basis of all the "free speech on campus" arguments we're going through now. I guess time will tell if it actually works.

    We’ll stop telling the truth about the left when they stop lying about us.

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  160. @Chrisnonymous
    You're both correct. Rolling is not rocket science, and Japan doesn't have the world's best cigars. However, there is a lot going on with sushi before the rolling stage, starting with the guys who vett the fishes. This is not even a matter of skill as the guys who live in the US are never even exposed to what they have to look for/do/taste. Anyway, sushi is only a very small part of Japanese cuisine.

    But I would refrain from calling Japanese cuisine the world's best. Eating it occassionally makes it taste amazing, but it doesn't scale so well in time or quantity.

    Well said.

    I’ve spent plenty of time in Japan, the Japanese are an admirable & gracious people, but eating their way day in & day out?

    No thanks.

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  161. @anon
    They still sell crack and powder but its small potatoes compared to weed. Crack head numbers are dwindling and mostly older . Not many 13-30 year old crack heads these days . But people in the hood start smoking weed around age 10. I see twelve or thirteen year old kids smoking with there parents regularly. There is no stigma , its like sharing a pizza with their kids in their mind.

    Basically 90% of people over 10 years old in Detroit smoke weed. Maybe 3% of people over 10 years old in Detroit smoke crack or do coke.

    How would YOU know?

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  162. Who really gives a f**k what employers do ? Do you think the Soviet Union was the only system that was unable to crush human nature ? 200,000 years of Homo Sapiens evolution is not going to be perverted or changed by being shamed on Facebook and Twitter when the Gulags couldn’t do it . The current resistance , the “Alt Right” , hasn’t come into being by “Intelligent Design” , it’s a systemic reaction to the Elites attempts to enslave us . As is the insanity of the Untermensch in the ME a reaction to Globalization . Take heart ! The future may be grim and dog eat dog as it has always been but it will not be the nightmare that we are dreaming of . Science Fiction , which so many of us are fans of , with it’s naive vision of a united humanity is FICTION . There are the People and the enemies of the People . That is as true now as it was in the beginning .

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  163. @anonymous
    Those brown people have a name. Neapolitans.

    Those brown people have a name. Neapolitans.

    I thought Neapolitans were hybrids– brown, white, and pink.

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  164. @Pericles
    Excepting actual princelings, the Ivy League is basically about snobbery, isn't it? Well, the more prestigious schools, at least.

    I think in the last 25 years the idea has begun to germinate in the country at large that what private research universities with cachet do is pool students who bring something to the table much more than they provide something at that table. Thomas Sowell in particular was an occasional promoter of state universities in his later years, contending that longitudinal research had demonstrated that the career trajectories of those attending Ivies and such and those admitted but attending state schools were about the same.

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  165. @black sea
    It's worth noting that, according to Yale, Dean Chu misrepresented the number of potentially offensive reviews she had posted. From a statement by College Head Stephen Davis to Yale students:

    "When I wrote to you on Saturday morning, it was with the understanding — and under assurance from Dean Chu, an assurance given to me and to others — that she had posted only two troubling reviews on social media," Davis said. "On Saturday evening, I found out that she was in fact responsible for multiple reprehensible posts, enough to represent a more widespread pattern. The additional posts that surfaced compounded the harm of the initial two, and they also further damaged my trust and confidence in Dean Chu's accountability to me and ability to lead the students of Pierson College."
     
    This certainly would have made Yale less forgiving of Chu's thought crimes, not that I think that what she said was such a big deal. It seems pretty clear that she was trying to make her reviews amusing, and she assumed that taking a few shots at working class whites, plus the "sketchy" inhabitants of New Haven, wouldn't cause any furor. I'm sure that faculty and student body of Yale make such comments -- and much worse -- all the time, and the town vs. gown dynamic is pretty old news. However, Yale is already under criticism for having taken seriously a list of witless, childish demands following an email about Halloween costumes, and the current situation has presented an opportunity for Yale to demonstrate that it can over-react to allegations of racial/ethnic/class trangressions in a even-handed manner.

    Lying about how many such reviews she'd posted wasn't a great idea on Dean Chu's part, though I guess she could argue that she's hardly the one to know how many of her reviews were offensive, since she apparently didn't see any of them as offensive when she was posting them.

    I do wonder how much her Asian-American background affected her judgement here. The shifting standards of what constitutes offensive speech are hard enough for up-to-date, porgressive-minded, in-the-bubble White Americans to keep track of, and since, on some level, most Asians find this a perverse and bizarre American obsession, I have some sympathy for her inability to keep up with who you can and can't make jokes about during any particular phase of the lunar cycle.

    Case in point: at a Canadian university, Lou Reed's "Take a Walk on the Wild Side" has now been deemed transphobic:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/news/walk-wild-side-transphobic-student-group-issues-apology-playing/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_fb

    Apparently, the part about, "And the colored girls go do, dah do, dah do, dah do, dah do . . ." is no problem at all. Go figure!

    Talk about coincidence, or serendipity, or whatever: as I’m reading these most recent comments, I’m listening to the first Velvet Underground album, w/Nico, the one with the banana on the cover. Lou’s making his way through “I’m Waiting For The Man,” a song about white boys going up to Harlem to score dope from The Man (i.e., The Dealer), and there’s this verse:

    Here he comes, he’s all dressed in black
    P.R. shoes [anti-Hispanic slur, no doubt], and a big straw hat
    He’s never early, he’s always late [why don't you just come right out and say, "CPT," Lou?]
    First thing you learn is that you always gotta wait. [Totally class-ist: how dare Reed impose his own middle-class notion of fixed time, with artificial demarcations between "early" and "late," as if everyone takes the 5:42 LIRR train back to Freeport.]
    I’m waiting for my man. [What makes him yours? Just because you're a client, and help keep him in business? Typical white privilege; even a century and a half after the end of slavery in this country, white people still think they "own" black people. An insult, and an outrage.]

    Don’t get me started on “Heroin” or “Venus In Furs.” Not to mention “Make Up” from Transformer. And, of course, “Sister Ray” is totally unmentionable, because, well, you know,…

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  166. @Stan Adams
    A teacher's aide in Georgia was fired for calling Michelle Obama a gorilla:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3820598/Teacher-fired-calling-Michelle-Obama-gorilla-Facebook.html

    Truthfully, this woman's IQ aspires to the three-digit range.

    I had a professor who gave us extra credit for writing an essay on The Bush Dyslexicon:
    https://www.amazon.com/Bush-Dyslexicon-Observations-National-Disorder/dp/0393322963

    The Daily Mail is one of the few media outlets that still publishes sycophantic articles about the Obamas, I assume it is because they are trying to attract Black readers.

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    I'm not sure that a news article that repeatedly quotes someone referring to Michelle Obama as a "gorilla" -- not once or even twice, but several times, in multiple contexts -- qualifies as "sycophantic" with respect to the former President and First Lady. To the extent that the Daily Mail has black American readers, such readers would find the article in question itself offensive, and would be less likely, not more so, to return to the DM's website.

    The blacks I know in NYC have no problem with disseminating the most lurid slurs about the current president, his wife or his children -- things that would give pause to even the most rabidly anti-Trump site -- but heaven help anyone who criticizes either of the Obamas, even mildly. Many of these people have shaky reading comprehension skills, so the DM article might appear to them as if the DM were calling Mrs. Obama a "gorilla," rather than simply reporting the fact that some teacher's aide in Georgia did so, and was fired as a result.

    Now, as to whether the Daily Mail is looking to attract black readers in Great Britain, that's another matter entirely. I have no idea whether those readers take such a proprietary interest in the Obama family.
  167. @Daniel Chieh
    “There’s no clear answer in my view,” said Jennifer Lee, a sociology professor at UC Irvine and an expert in immigration and race. “What I suspect is happening are Western ideals about what feminity is and what masculinity is.”

    You have to be this educated to be this dumb. Its not only "Western" ideals, anyway. While I'm sure Eastern ideals credit education a bit higher, I can't think of any widespread culture that praises huge, strong women and weedy, weak men. Please, enlighten me.

    I have vague memories of an African guy saying he prefers women who are strong enough to do farm work and explicitly contrasted this with Western notions of what a hot wife looks like. Not sure what the women want, but I doubt they want weak men.

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  168. @jim jones
    The Daily Mail is one of the few media outlets that still publishes sycophantic articles about the Obamas, I assume it is because they are trying to attract Black readers.

    I’m not sure that a news article that repeatedly quotes someone referring to Michelle Obama as a “gorilla” — not once or even twice, but several times, in multiple contexts — qualifies as “sycophantic” with respect to the former President and First Lady. To the extent that the Daily Mail has black American readers, such readers would find the article in question itself offensive, and would be less likely, not more so, to return to the DM’s website.

    The blacks I know in NYC have no problem with disseminating the most lurid slurs about the current president, his wife or his children — things that would give pause to even the most rabidly anti-Trump site — but heaven help anyone who criticizes either of the Obamas, even mildly. Many of these people have shaky reading comprehension skills, so the DM article might appear to them as if the DM were calling Mrs. Obama a “gorilla,” rather than simply reporting the fact that some teacher’s aide in Georgia did so, and was fired as a result.

    Now, as to whether the Daily Mail is looking to attract black readers in Great Britain, that’s another matter entirely. I have no idea whether those readers take such a proprietary interest in the Obama family.

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    @Wally
    We'll stop telling the truth about the left when they stop lying about us.

    Of what lies do you speak?

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  170. @weyyar
    You have to go to Japan. Being a chef is an esteemed job and they have to go through a long apprenticeship. They can make intoxicating food without loading it with sugar and fat. And there is more to Japanese cuisine than sushi. Sushi is more a specialty food or occasions - eg weddings.

    LOL. I live in Japan. And lots of Japanese food is fatty or full of sugar. Just staying with sushi as an example, sushi rice is made with sugar and the best cuts of tuna are very fatty.

    I happen to like things like seaweed, so I do pretty well here, but there is still a lot that gets old after you’ve eaten it a few times. Spongy soy products in particular. (And this is w/o mentioning the awful cheese, etc)

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    Seasoned sushi vinegar has a little sugar in it but the amount of seasoned vinegar needed to season 2 cups of cooked sushi rice (which is enough to make a lot of sushi) might have 1 tablespoon of sugar in it.

    The fat in tuna and other fatty fish is good for you.

    If the Japanese diet has any weakness it is that it is too high in sodium (salt). Otherwise it's a lot healthier than the American diet.

    No one goes to Japan for the cheese. Japanese really don't like smelly cheese which they consider to be disgusting. Japanese used to think that Westerners stank like cheese or rancid butter.
    , @weyyar
    I haven't lived in Japan, but I took an extended vacation there. The food made a huge impression.
    I had tendon at a traditional restaurant in Asakusa. It was so good , I started to eat really slowly because I didn't want the experience to end. The food was good every place I went and no matter what I ate - soba, saba, shabu shabu ... . I had ramen at a chain restaurant and it was great. I noticed that the food was always fresh, they don't seem to freeze food there. They can also make vegetables delicious. I was there for two months , ate more than I ever had and lost 10lbs. I could live on Japanese food easily.
  171. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Jefferson
    "Look on the bright side, she made a remark about white trash, rather than black trash, she probably would have been fired for that…"

    Asians don't see Black people as trash. Hence why the NBA and Hip Hop have an even bigger following in the Asian American community than in the White American conmunity.

    Asian American Millennials here in The Bay Area are all into Black culture like The Golden State Warriors and The Wu-Tang Clan.

    Aiggers are even more ridiculous than wiggers.

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  172. @Chrisnonymous
    LOL. I live in Japan. And lots of Japanese food is fatty or full of sugar. Just staying with sushi as an example, sushi rice is made with sugar and the best cuts of tuna are very fatty.

    I happen to like things like seaweed, so I do pretty well here, but there is still a lot that gets old after you've eaten it a few times. Spongy soy products in particular. (And this is w/o mentioning the awful cheese, etc)

    Seasoned sushi vinegar has a little sugar in it but the amount of seasoned vinegar needed to season 2 cups of cooked sushi rice (which is enough to make a lot of sushi) might have 1 tablespoon of sugar in it.

    The fat in tuna and other fatty fish is good for you.

    If the Japanese diet has any weakness it is that it is too high in sodium (salt). Otherwise it’s a lot healthier than the American diet.

    No one goes to Japan for the cheese. Japanese really don’t like smelly cheese which they consider to be disgusting. Japanese used to think that Westerners stank like cheese or rancid butter.

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    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Let me repeat: "LOL. I live in Japan."

    Sushi was just an example. How about sukiyaki? Literally, cooking meat in sugar. How many dishes have we got like that in western cuisine? (And guess what--mirin or sake also forms of sugar! Anything containing mirin, like vegetable sauces? Sweetened.) Dashimaki? Added sugar. Jap curry? Sweet. Yakitori sauce? Might as well be ketchup. That stuff you add to your ground sesame seeds at the tonkatsu restaurant? Yup! I've even eaten distinctly sweet miso served as a vegetable flavoring.

    Even the quintessential Japanese sweet, red bean paste, has the cane derivative. It's not just red beans.

    Sugar and sweet flavor profiles are all over Japanese cuisine. And that's on top of the fact that white rice, udon, ramen, soba, somen are all just starches, which also appeal to the brain similar to sugar.

    The problem people have coming to grips with Japanese food is that because Japanese food is, as a rule, subtle/mild, desserts and drinks are often less sweet than in the US, and people mistakenly think this means Japanese food across the board is "not sweet".

    Sure, you can go "no true Scotsman" and argue that my examples are due to western influence. And that's true to some extent (although the flavor profile of sake is becoming drier under the influence of grape-wine-accustomed palates). But the same is largely true of western food--if you stick to traditional recipes, there isn't much added sugar outside desserts. In fact (I believe), traditional western recipes have more reliance on strong savory and herbal elements compared to traditional Japanese cuisine.

    And what about fat? Japanese people love fat. The fact that tuna fat is "good fat" doesn't mean it's fatless. When they eat meat, they choose cuts far fattier than any I see in US grocery stores. My girlfriend never removes the skin from chicken. Etc.

    Again, as with people mistaking "mildness" for lack of sweetness, people mistake paucity of dairy for lack of fat. When fat is available, Japanese people don't shrink from eating it, they just don't really like butter, cheese, etc. But no Japanese person would, eg, avoid ordering ahijo in a Spanish restaurant despite the fact that it's basically a bowl of fat.

    To the extent Japanese people are healthy, Japanese people are healthy because they eat small portions, not because they eat in conformity with a (false) modern idea about what constitutes a healthy diet.
  173. @Chrisnonymous
    LOL. I live in Japan. And lots of Japanese food is fatty or full of sugar. Just staying with sushi as an example, sushi rice is made with sugar and the best cuts of tuna are very fatty.

    I happen to like things like seaweed, so I do pretty well here, but there is still a lot that gets old after you've eaten it a few times. Spongy soy products in particular. (And this is w/o mentioning the awful cheese, etc)

    I haven’t lived in Japan, but I took an extended vacation there. The food made a huge impression.
    I had tendon at a traditional restaurant in Asakusa. It was so good , I started to eat really slowly because I didn’t want the experience to end. The food was good every place I went and no matter what I ate – soba, saba, shabu shabu … . I had ramen at a chain restaurant and it was great. I noticed that the food was always fresh, they don’t seem to freeze food there. They can also make vegetables delicious. I was there for two months , ate more than I ever had and lost 10lbs. I could live on Japanese food easily.

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    Many foods in Japan are good, but (and this was my original point) eating (especially at expensive restaurants) on vacation is different from eating everyday food every day. Even romantic love wears off after a couple years, don't you know. Quality of ingredients is very high everywhere, but this is not, strictly speaking, a feature of cuisine. Also, those delicious vegetables were probably made with sauces that contained, as I noted, sugar.
  174. @Anonym
    Remember Steve that the current anti-white establishment began with the promise of judging by content of character rather than skin color. Since then it has turned into a full-on attempt at white genocide through miscegenation, wealth transfer and lopsided immigration policies in white countries not reflected overseas.

    So too, awakening our people and getting our countries back will probably begin with crushing the anti-whitism first, no?

    I still think it's an error to use the cult-Marx term "racist".

    I still think it’s an error to use the cult-Marx term “racist”.

    I agree. Likewise for “gay” as a euphemism for homosexual*; “homophobia”; “transgender” and any number of other Cult-Marx/SJW/Goodwhite weaponized propaganda terms. Unless placing these within quotation marks or otherwise making it clear that I am not acknowledging them as legitimate, I make a point to avoid all such terms. To do otherwise is to concede the doctrinal assertions that such terms represent; to acquiesce to the intellectual, cultural and moral tyranny that said terms affirm and perpetuate. In pointing-out that the side who gains control over the language has already won, I would hardly be the first.

    What does “racist” even mean? (Other than an epithet used to discredit and silence anyone who dares to dissent from the prevailing orthodoxy, that is.) How many of the lemmings who parrot the term could even define it?

    (*Or perhaps more accurately for brazen, promiscuous, buggering Sodomite or similar; for “gay” symbolizes far more than mere homosexuality, per se– much as even that is manifestly non-normative and less-than-wholesome.)

    Apropos, here’s something from Teen Vogue that caught my attention while perusing Google News:

    White Male Terrorists Are an Issue We Should Discuss

    Little Royce Mann would surely concur.

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  175. @Jefferson
    "Millions and millions of whites are Hispanic, so to say “whites and Hispanics” are in any way different and more noteworthy than, say, “Orientals and Ainu” or “whites and Slavs” is silly."

    Are you really comparing Hispanics to Slavs? Are you really comparing the racial demographics of Latin America to Eastern Europe?

    If Latin America is as White as Eastern Europe, than you should be pro-open borders right?

    After all it would make no sense for you to say that Hispanic is a White ethnic group but at the same time be against mass White Hispanic immigration into The U.S. If open borders helps make America a Whiter country, how can open borders be a bad thing?

    Are you really conflating an analogy with an identity?

    Are you really not aware that (white) Hispanics are a subset of whites, just as Slavs are a subset of whites, and that mestizo Hispanics are nothing to do with my point? (As was made clear by my explicitly stating that differentiating mestizos and Amerindians – Hispanic or otherwise – makes sense, whereas merely differentiating Hispanics, overbroadly defined to include three races – blacks, whites, Amerindians – and cominations thereof makes no sense at all because it unhelpfully differentiates Hispanic whites from other whites.)

    Your last paragraph has nothing much to do with anything I wrote. If I understand your questions correctly, though, my answer is that any immigration is bad; we are full up, thanks very much, be you from England, Iceland, Swaziland, or Thailand; be ye white, black, brown, or purple with pink polka-dots.

    That made clear, if you put a gun to my head and demanded I accept someone, yes: I certainly prefer white Hispanics like Penelope Cruz to mestizos like Alicia Machado or mongrels like Hugo Chavez.

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    • Replies: @BB753
    I one met a German Argentinian, born and partially bred in Argentina, whose family made the wrong decision in 1937, namely to return to the Motherland.. Guess what, he fought in the German army during the war. At one point he almost faced court-martial because he wanted to quit and return to Argentina.
    The whole Nazi and war-fighting thing didn't appeal to him, so upon being captured by the Allies, he stated that he wasn't German at all and that he wanted to be shipped back to Argentina. Tough luck! Argentina had just declared war against the Axis powers, in the nick of time should I say, as Peron used to be very friendly with Nazi Germany. He was told not to mention his Argentinian nationality or he'd be be shot for treason! So he had to suffer internment and poverty when released, for three more years before being allowed to emigrate to Argentina.
    The are still quite a lot of 100% Hispanic whites but those are of more recent Spanish, Italian, Greek or Portuguese descent, or of mixed European marriages.
    It's not uncommon to meet young Hispanics who are half Italian and half Spanish or Croatian.
    Many years ago, I dated a Hispanic ginger-haired girl. She was a quarter French, a quarter Italian and half- English, from Uruguay.
    But Hispanic whites increasingly intermarry with "whitish" or Mestizo Hispanics, so I guess in 50 years there won't be many Hispanic Whites left.
    BTW, Jews, Lebanese and Armenians are considered white in Latin America, as they should.
  176. @Autochthon
    Are you really conflating an analogy with an identity?

    Are you really not aware that (white) Hispanics are a subset of whites, just as Slavs are a subset of whites, and that mestizo Hispanics are nothing to do with my point? (As was made clear by my explicitly stating that differentiating mestizos and Amerindians – Hispanic or otherwise – makes sense, whereas merely differentiating Hispanics, overbroadly defined to include three races – blacks, whites, Amerindians – and cominations thereof makes no sense at all because it unhelpfully differentiates Hispanic whites from other whites.)

    Your last paragraph has nothing much to do with anything I wrote. If I understand your questions correctly, though, my answer is that any immigration is bad; we are full up, thanks very much, be you from England, Iceland, Swaziland, or Thailand; be ye white, black, brown, or purple with pink polka-dots.

    That made clear, if you put a gun to my head and demanded I accept someone, yes: I certainly prefer white Hispanics like Penelope Cruz to mestizos like Alicia Machado or mongrels like Hugo Chavez.

    I one met a German Argentinian, born and partially bred in Argentina, whose family made the wrong decision in 1937, namely to return to the Motherland.. Guess what, he fought in the German army during the war. At one point he almost faced court-martial because he wanted to quit and return to Argentina.
    The whole Nazi and war-fighting thing didn’t appeal to him, so upon being captured by the Allies, he stated that he wasn’t German at all and that he wanted to be shipped back to Argentina. Tough luck! Argentina had just declared war against the Axis powers, in the nick of time should I say, as Peron used to be very friendly with Nazi Germany. He was told not to mention his Argentinian nationality or he’d be be shot for treason! So he had to suffer internment and poverty when released, for three more years before being allowed to emigrate to Argentina.
    The are still quite a lot of 100% Hispanic whites but those are of more recent Spanish, Italian, Greek or Portuguese descent, or of mixed European marriages.
    It’s not uncommon to meet young Hispanics who are half Italian and half Spanish or Croatian.
    Many years ago, I dated a Hispanic ginger-haired girl. She was a quarter French, a quarter Italian and half- English, from Uruguay.
    But Hispanic whites increasingly intermarry with “whitish” or Mestizo Hispanics, so I guess in 50 years there won’t be many Hispanic Whites left.
    BTW, Jews, Lebanese and Armenians are considered white in Latin America, as they should.

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    Tough luck! Argentina had just declared war against the Axis powers, in the nick of time should I say, as Peron used to be very friendly with Nazi Germany.

    Peron was not President of Argentina until 1946. He was minister of labor in the military government which ran Argentina from 1943 to 1946.
  177. @weyyar
    I haven't lived in Japan, but I took an extended vacation there. The food made a huge impression.
    I had tendon at a traditional restaurant in Asakusa. It was so good , I started to eat really slowly because I didn't want the experience to end. The food was good every place I went and no matter what I ate - soba, saba, shabu shabu ... . I had ramen at a chain restaurant and it was great. I noticed that the food was always fresh, they don't seem to freeze food there. They can also make vegetables delicious. I was there for two months , ate more than I ever had and lost 10lbs. I could live on Japanese food easily.

    Many foods in Japan are good, but (and this was my original point) eating (especially at expensive restaurants) on vacation is different from eating everyday food every day. Even romantic love wears off after a couple years, don’t you know. Quality of ingredients is very high everywhere, but this is not, strictly speaking, a feature of cuisine. Also, those delicious vegetables were probably made with sauces that contained, as I noted, sugar.

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  178. @Jack D
    Seasoned sushi vinegar has a little sugar in it but the amount of seasoned vinegar needed to season 2 cups of cooked sushi rice (which is enough to make a lot of sushi) might have 1 tablespoon of sugar in it.

    The fat in tuna and other fatty fish is good for you.

    If the Japanese diet has any weakness it is that it is too high in sodium (salt). Otherwise it's a lot healthier than the American diet.

    No one goes to Japan for the cheese. Japanese really don't like smelly cheese which they consider to be disgusting. Japanese used to think that Westerners stank like cheese or rancid butter.

    Let me repeat: “LOL. I live in Japan.”

    Sushi was just an example. How about sukiyaki? Literally, cooking meat in sugar. How many dishes have we got like that in western cuisine? (And guess what–mirin or sake also forms of sugar! Anything containing mirin, like vegetable sauces? Sweetened.) Dashimaki? Added sugar. Jap curry? Sweet. Yakitori sauce? Might as well be ketchup. That stuff you add to your ground sesame seeds at the tonkatsu restaurant? Yup! I’ve even eaten distinctly sweet miso served as a vegetable flavoring.

    Even the quintessential Japanese sweet, red bean paste, has the cane derivative. It’s not just red beans.

    Sugar and sweet flavor profiles are all over Japanese cuisine. And that’s on top of the fact that white rice, udon, ramen, soba, somen are all just starches, which also appeal to the brain similar to sugar.

    The problem people have coming to grips with Japanese food is that because Japanese food is, as a rule, subtle/mild, desserts and drinks are often less sweet than in the US, and people mistakenly think this means Japanese food across the board is “not sweet”.

    Sure, you can go “no true Scotsman” and argue that my examples are due to western influence. And that’s true to some extent (although the flavor profile of sake is becoming drier under the influence of grape-wine-accustomed palates). But the same is largely true of western food–if you stick to traditional recipes, there isn’t much added sugar outside desserts. In fact (I believe), traditional western recipes have more reliance on strong savory and herbal elements compared to traditional Japanese cuisine.

    And what about fat? Japanese people love fat. The fact that tuna fat is “good fat” doesn’t mean it’s fatless. When they eat meat, they choose cuts far fattier than any I see in US grocery stores. My girlfriend never removes the skin from chicken. Etc.

    Again, as with people mistaking “mildness” for lack of sweetness, people mistake paucity of dairy for lack of fat. When fat is available, Japanese people don’t shrink from eating it, they just don’t really like butter, cheese, etc. But no Japanese person would, eg, avoid ordering ahijo in a Spanish restaurant despite the fact that it’s basically a bowl of fat.

    To the extent Japanese people are healthy, Japanese people are healthy because they eat small portions, not because they eat in conformity with a (false) modern idea about what constitutes a healthy diet.

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  179. @BB753
    I one met a German Argentinian, born and partially bred in Argentina, whose family made the wrong decision in 1937, namely to return to the Motherland.. Guess what, he fought in the German army during the war. At one point he almost faced court-martial because he wanted to quit and return to Argentina.
    The whole Nazi and war-fighting thing didn't appeal to him, so upon being captured by the Allies, he stated that he wasn't German at all and that he wanted to be shipped back to Argentina. Tough luck! Argentina had just declared war against the Axis powers, in the nick of time should I say, as Peron used to be very friendly with Nazi Germany. He was told not to mention his Argentinian nationality or he'd be be shot for treason! So he had to suffer internment and poverty when released, for three more years before being allowed to emigrate to Argentina.
    The are still quite a lot of 100% Hispanic whites but those are of more recent Spanish, Italian, Greek or Portuguese descent, or of mixed European marriages.
    It's not uncommon to meet young Hispanics who are half Italian and half Spanish or Croatian.
    Many years ago, I dated a Hispanic ginger-haired girl. She was a quarter French, a quarter Italian and half- English, from Uruguay.
    But Hispanic whites increasingly intermarry with "whitish" or Mestizo Hispanics, so I guess in 50 years there won't be many Hispanic Whites left.
    BTW, Jews, Lebanese and Armenians are considered white in Latin America, as they should.

    Tough luck! Argentina had just declared war against the Axis powers, in the nick of time should I say, as Peron used to be very friendly with Nazi Germany.

    Peron was not President of Argentina until 1946. He was minister of labor in the military government which ran Argentina from 1943 to 1946.

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    I didn't say he was. But as a member of the cabinet from 1943, he was in touch with Nazi agents, and sympathetic both to Mussolini ( Peron served as military attaché in Fascist Italy from 1936 to 1938, and then assigned by the War Ministry to tour Italy and Germany in 1939 ) and Hitler. Not only was he secretary of Labour, but from 1944 on Secretary of War and de facto Vice-president until october 1945.
  180. @Art Deco
    Tough luck! Argentina had just declared war against the Axis powers, in the nick of time should I say, as Peron used to be very friendly with Nazi Germany.

    Peron was not President of Argentina until 1946. He was minister of labor in the military government which ran Argentina from 1943 to 1946.

    I didn’t say he was. But as a member of the cabinet from 1943, he was in touch with Nazi agents, and sympathetic both to Mussolini ( Peron served as military attaché in Fascist Italy from 1936 to 1938, and then assigned by the War Ministry to tour Italy and Germany in 1939 ) and Hitler. Not only was he secretary of Labour, but from 1944 on Secretary of War and de facto Vice-president until october 1945.

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  181. @Formerly CARealist
    lare corporations hate hate hate tall poppies or anyone who does not embrace “The [IBM, Coca-Cola, Ford, Google...] Way [of doing things and approaching work].”

    If what they're doing is working then I can understand them not wanting to hire someone with big ideas to change it.

    I just talked to a guy who did some hiring for a large company and he said he wasn't interested in people who want to "think outside the box". He wants them to learn the system and do good work before they come up with ideas for changing stuff. Sounded pretty wise to me.
    He also said the applicants with masters degrees had a bit of swagger so he chose the BS's and BA's instead.

    The only problem is the rhetoric doesn’t match that reality. And “outside the box thinking” rarely is.
    But everyone insists on “creativity and outside the box thinking (and doing)”, while really, yes, just doing a good job consistently is mostly what is needed…
    It’s like Tom Woods’ “3×5 card of allowable opinion”.
    “Creative doing” is then cover for inconsistent or mediocre work by protected groups…
    Everything seems to involve doublethink and double talk

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