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From the Los Angeles Times:

‘Freedom city’? Going beyond ‘sanctuary,’ Austin, Texas, vows to curtail arrests

By JAWEED KALEEM
JUN 19, 2018 | 11:15 AM

… The other resolution directs police to avoid arrests for misdemeanors, including those for smoking marijuana, having drug paraphernalia, and taking part in petty theft — crimes that city data shows frequently end in arrests of black and Latino residents.

Petty theft is up to $50 in Texas. So basically shoplifting has been effectively legalized in Austin.

While Austin is among the country’s first so-called freedom cities, it’s part of a wider movement around decriminalizing low-level offenses and decreasing arrests. According to Local Progress, a national network of progressive city officials, some council members in El Paso and Dallas are also considering “freedom city” proposals.

“Poor people of color in our city are over-punished and over-incarcerated,” said Greg Casar, an Austin City Councilman who pushed for the resolutions. “If people are being arrested less, we can also prevent people from being put in the deportation pipeline.” …

Jaweed Kaleem is the national race and justice correspondent at the Los Angeles Times, where he writes about how race and ethnicity shape our evolving understanding of what it means to be American. He frequently reports on policing, civil rights, immigration, prisons and religion, among other subjects. At The Times, his reporting has taken him to Virginia to write about controversies over Confederate monuments, Texas to tell the story of the nation’s only Spanish-speaking mosque, Montana to cover debates over refugee resettlement, and Michigan to explore the rise of black police chiefs. Before joining The Times, Kaleem was the senior religion reporter at HuffPost for five years. From 2007-11, he was a reporter for the Miami Herald. He attended Emerson College in Boston and grew up in Northern Virginia.

 
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  1. Sorry, Unzies, but this is yet another reason it’s great to be Jeff Bezos.

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  2. GLT says:

    Maybe they are trying to be where the leader in drone delivery tech ends up.

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    My first reaction.

    Who was behind this resolution, what are their connections, and who are their friends.

    Not small local retailers (independent OR franchise) is my guess. $49.99 in shoplifting for each person who walks into a "mom and pop" store is going to play hell with the sustainability of those businesses.

    I'd also look to see who in the bulletproof-plate-glass-retail-cage sector is involved. A guy can make a lot of money installing people cages through which retailers pass wares.

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  3. So River Walk will become Rape & Run? I love when the leftists destroy their own towns, but eventually when Austin becomes Akron there will be some innocent folks who didn’t white flight themselves to Idaho quickly enough.

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    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    Yeah, I often confuse Austin and SA. Why? Texas is a strange place, that’s why. All the damn Lone Stars on every edifice, the Mexicans who speak, dress, and act like John Wayne, the insanity of Houston, Midland and DFW coexisting in the same state, etc. You’d think the alliteration of Austin-Ann Arbor would prevent my frequent conflation, but no. Anyway, I’m blaming Steve for this - too many posts and too many comments for one day.
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  4. Luke Lea says:

    What could possibly go wrong?

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  5. I live in Austin, TX. I love the city despite the nutty left wing political views. This is the first i’ve heard of this story.

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    • Replies: @Talleyrand
    Austin has become a shit hole city...slowly at first, then all at once.
    , @cynthia curran
    Yes, but Joel Konkin types always talk about how great Austin is. Its overrated and you could do just as good living in Plano. One can like a town even if its liberal.
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  6. @Stan d Mute
    So River Walk will become Rape & Run? I love when the leftists destroy their own towns, but eventually when Austin becomes Akron there will be some innocent folks who didn’t white flight themselves to Idaho quickly enough.

    Yeah, I often confuse Austin and SA. Why? Texas is a strange place, that’s why. All the damn Lone Stars on every edifice, the Mexicans who speak, dress, and act like John Wayne, the insanity of Houston, Midland and DFW coexisting in the same state, etc. You’d think the alliteration of Austin-Ann Arbor would prevent my frequent conflation, but no. Anyway, I’m blaming Steve for this – too many posts and too many comments for one day.

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    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Texas is a strange place
     
    All my Ex's live in Texas, that's why I make my home in Tennessee!

    BTW Texas Mexicans are not like Mexicans from anywhere else I have lived. Texas Mexicans are the best!
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  7. Sunbeam says:

    Geez I wonder if they’ve thought this through at all.

    What happens if Dollar General and Walmart pull out of that town? Although if you think about it upscale businesses would still have the benefit of protection for their products – mostly.

    How can this possibly not result in a lawsuit by the owner of a gas station who had someone just grab a case of beer from the cooler and run out, with no investigation of the crime even.

    Whereas grabbing a $1000 gold chain from a jewelry store will still get you prosecuted?

    But what do these Austin guys do if businesses for downscale people just decide to move or shut their doors? Or is that the plan somehow?

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    • Replies: @Tiny Duck
    Like it or not, states, counties, and cities have no standing regarding any federal law. Arizona found that out and so will California and other places. It is case law at the highest level, the Supreme Court of the U.S.

    Follow and enforce the law. Do not obstruct justice, which is a federal crime.

    This law is getting the kind of blowback that can finally turn Texas into a blue state. But, it's not only that law; its combination with current circumstances about immigrant family separations only exacerbate the blowback. Trump wasn't paying attention to the counterproductive effects of his arrogance. He seems to be noticing how the GOP isn't his most fervent support either.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    What happens if Dollar General and Walmart pull out of that town?
     
    Or, God help us, Half Price Books. In its home state.

    The tuppies would then have to pay full price at Barnes and Noble.

    https://78fdedfcd9f61142ad83-7da481e617a8188f8b1378dd1c3908ab.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/005-1/large.jpg
    , @Miro23
    A growing trend seems to be "Feed as you Go", eating snacks and drinks from the shelves in the supermarket while you shop and dumping the wrappers and cans prior to the check-out. It's shopping with a free meal for the family, and something I've only seen recently.

    How do supermarkets deal with this, or do they just increase prices?
    , @Hibernian
    I think there's a legal doctrine that the police don't have a legally enforceable duty to enforce the law.
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  8. Anon[568] • Disclaimer says:

    Can anyone deadname Jaweed Kaleem? I’m always amused at the birth names of these clowns.

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    • Replies: @Bob Smith of Suburbia
    Quontravious Tubbins.
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  9. Austin has had similar policies for decades. Although back in the day, they were letting the little stuff slide soze they could wait until the perp committed a felony and could get a longer jail term. I believe this represented the Revolving Door theory of in again out again and was considered a bad thing by criminal justice types who wanted no disruption of the criminal trajectory from petty to serious criminality. Those who owned and ran local convenience stores adhered to their own theories of criminal justice so eventually armed themselves with bats, crowbars and/ guns. The bulletproof enclosure around clerk and cash register became fashionable about this time.

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  10. prosa123 says: • Website

    I’ve learned from working in retail that the police in my suburban New York county do not always arrest people caught shoplifting. If the person does not have a prior record, the amount stolen isn’t too high,* and the _modus operandi_ is not something associated with professional theft rings, they are as likely as not to issue a summons for a future court appearance.

    * = I don’t believe there’s a set dollar limit, it’s discretionary

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    • Replies: @Dr. X

    I’ve learned from working in retail that the police in my suburban New York county do not always arrest people caught shoplifting.
     
    They'll sure as hell arrest you for an 11-round magazine, though.
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  11. Petty theft is up to $50 in Texas. So basically shoplifting has been effectively legalized in Austin.

    Come on. Does anything in today’s trendsetting Austin cost less than $50? Even at Starbucks?

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  12. Tiny Duck says:
    @Sunbeam
    Geez I wonder if they've thought this through at all.

    What happens if Dollar General and Walmart pull out of that town? Although if you think about it upscale businesses would still have the benefit of protection for their products - mostly.

    How can this possibly not result in a lawsuit by the owner of a gas station who had someone just grab a case of beer from the cooler and run out, with no investigation of the crime even.

    Whereas grabbing a $1000 gold chain from a jewelry store will still get you prosecuted?

    But what do these Austin guys do if businesses for downscale people just decide to move or shut their doors? Or is that the plan somehow?

    Like it or not, states, counties, and cities have no standing regarding any federal law. Arizona found that out and so will California and other places. It is case law at the highest level, the Supreme Court of the U.S.

    Follow and enforce the law. Do not obstruct justice, which is a federal crime.

    This law is getting the kind of blowback that can finally turn Texas into a blue state. But, it’s not only that law; its combination with current circumstances about immigrant family separations only exacerbate the blowback. Trump wasn’t paying attention to the counterproductive effects of his arrogance. He seems to be noticing how the GOP isn’t his most fervent support either.

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    • Replies: @gsjackson
    Blowback against a soft-on-crime law will have the effect of turning Texas into a Democratic Party state??? That would certainly be an about-face from the last half century or so of American history.

    I'm relatively new here, and gather TD is somewhat infamous. Does he/she normally get responded to, or ignored?
    , @artichoke
    What law are you talking about?
    , @Dissident
    Does no one else find this comment suspiciously uncharacteristic for Tiny Duck?
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  13. @Sunbeam
    Geez I wonder if they've thought this through at all.

    What happens if Dollar General and Walmart pull out of that town? Although if you think about it upscale businesses would still have the benefit of protection for their products - mostly.

    How can this possibly not result in a lawsuit by the owner of a gas station who had someone just grab a case of beer from the cooler and run out, with no investigation of the crime even.

    Whereas grabbing a $1000 gold chain from a jewelry store will still get you prosecuted?

    But what do these Austin guys do if businesses for downscale people just decide to move or shut their doors? Or is that the plan somehow?

    What happens if Dollar General and Walmart pull out of that town?

    Or, God help us, Half Price Books. In its home state.

    The tuppies would then have to pay full price at Barnes and Noble.

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    • Replies: @Glaivester
    Actually, I would suspect that bookstores don't have to worry too much about shoplifting, except in the porn section.
    , @Tom Wilkes
    The Upper Midwest Half-Price Books don't have porn sections (except for romance novels) but they do have CDs, DVDs and comic books ripe for plucking.

    BTW, will this change "dine-and-dash" to "dine-and-casually-walk-out-giving-your-waitress-and-the-manager-the-finger"?
    , @ben tillman
    Just heard last night that Half Price Books is now in the business of gentrification.
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  14. Arclight says:

    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their ‘allies’ on the left. Most law and order people on the right are exasperated and ask ‘why can’t they be more like us?’ whereas on the left the concept is ‘we don’t like the end result of punishing people who commit a lot of crime, so let’s just not do it and pretend this problem doesn’t exist.’

    Same in education with affirmative action – they know full well their favorite pet people cannot compete at a level commensurate with their share of the population, so the answer is to pretend any yardstick that shows them coming up short is illegitimate and we’ll just decree that they are just like everyone else.

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    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Arclight, you hit it out of the park. Poor results on entrance tests or promotion tests? Racist questions of course. Expect less and that's what you get. Tell some shop keeper that 10 thefts of $50 is no big deal. Only saving factor is that the most desired sneakers and Timberland boots cost $200 plus.
    , @bomag
    Also, this is a form of taxation; of wealth redistribution.

    Sharing the wealth fifty bucks at a time.

    Everyone just knows businessmen are hosing down the lower classes; unlike city councils who are doing holy work by sanctuary-ing the place and planning an increase in crime.

    , @istevefan

    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their ‘allies’ on the left.
     
    So true. But blacks and latins seem to be ignorant of this. One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them. But for the most part they do not take it as an insult.

    In addition to this news blurb about Austin, here are a couple examples off the top of my head that imply blacks/latins or NAMs (Non Asian Minorities) are somewhat deficient:

    1) Schools have to tone down discipline lest too many NAMs get put into the school-to-prison pipeline.

    2) Blacks should be upset at the GOP for not allowing the restoration of voting rights for felons.

    Even black intellectuals, including the leading intellectual in America Ta-Nehisi Coates, seem to have difficulty in perceiving the insult. From an archived Sailer post:

    … “Ta-Nehisi is amazing in the way he thinks out loud and invites people in,” says James Bennet, the Atlantic’s editor in chief. “He’s carrying out his extraordinary intellectual development in public. He’s very direct about what he doesn’t know.”

    Once, Bennet recalls, Coates was engaged in a gun control debate on the Atlantic’s Web site with Jeffrey Goldberg, a well-known colleague at the magazine. Goldberg referred to the philosopher and theologian Saint Augustine. Coates confessed that he didn’t know who Saint Augustine was, then charged ahead with the debate.

    “I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!” Bennet says.

     

    , @Reg Cæsar

    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their ‘allies’ on the left.
     
    Ah, yes, soft bigotry.
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  15. Glaivester says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    What happens if Dollar General and Walmart pull out of that town?
     
    Or, God help us, Half Price Books. In its home state.

    The tuppies would then have to pay full price at Barnes and Noble.

    https://78fdedfcd9f61142ad83-7da481e617a8188f8b1378dd1c3908ab.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/005-1/large.jpg

    Actually, I would suspect that bookstores don’t have to worry too much about shoplifting, except in the porn section.

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    Maybe someone could secretly fund the bookstore to put a book display outside the shop on the sidewalk, where it can't easily be seen that is loaded with books like "How to Behave for Dummies" or "Upstanding Living for Idiots" or "Nonsensical Prose by Tiny Duck" and see if any of these books disappear.

    Was Jaweed an Incel?

    , @Reg Cæsar
    Actually, I would suspect that bookstores don’t have to worry too much about shoplifting, except in the porn section.

    Ha! You've never lived in a college town, have you? Petty crime by disgruntled wannabe academics is rife. They have the brains to rationalize it, too.

    Also, there is a problem with Little Free Libraries in marginal neighborhoods being emptied, and the contents taken to places like Half Price Books. The stewards have taken to stamping the inside cover and persuading the bookdealers not to purchase those.

    This is OK for common stuff like Dr Seuss and Danielle Steel, but not with rare items that need to be back in the active market. Copies of Rosey Grier's "Needlepoint for Men" are going for over $100, and a book thief would be doing us a favor by taking it out of the LFL, which is a terribly inefficient conduit for it to be in.

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  16. I recall hearing in the last year or so that my home town of Minneapolis was going to stop citing people for pissing in public…disparate impact, don’t you know…

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    I recall hearing in the last year or so that my home town of Minneapolis was going to stop citing people for pissing in public…disparate impact, don’t you know…
     
    I presume, then, that they'll be repealing the state income tax any day now.
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  17. @Arclight
    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their 'allies' on the left. Most law and order people on the right are exasperated and ask 'why can't they be more like us?' whereas on the left the concept is 'we don't like the end result of punishing people who commit a lot of crime, so let's just not do it and pretend this problem doesn't exist.'

    Same in education with affirmative action - they know full well their favorite pet people cannot compete at a level commensurate with their share of the population, so the answer is to pretend any yardstick that shows them coming up short is illegitimate and we'll just decree that they are just like everyone else.

    Arclight, you hit it out of the park. Poor results on entrance tests or promotion tests? Racist questions of course. Expect less and that’s what you get. Tell some shop keeper that 10 thefts of $50 is no big deal. Only saving factor is that the most desired sneakers and Timberland boots cost $200 plus.

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  18. bomag says:
    @Arclight
    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their 'allies' on the left. Most law and order people on the right are exasperated and ask 'why can't they be more like us?' whereas on the left the concept is 'we don't like the end result of punishing people who commit a lot of crime, so let's just not do it and pretend this problem doesn't exist.'

    Same in education with affirmative action - they know full well their favorite pet people cannot compete at a level commensurate with their share of the population, so the answer is to pretend any yardstick that shows them coming up short is illegitimate and we'll just decree that they are just like everyone else.

    Also, this is a form of taxation; of wealth redistribution.

    Sharing the wealth fifty bucks at a time.

    Everyone just knows businessmen are hosing down the lower classes; unlike city councils who are doing holy work by sanctuary-ing the place and planning an increase in crime.

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  19. @Massimo Heitor
    I live in Austin, TX. I love the city despite the nutty left wing political views. This is the first i've heard of this story.

    Austin has become a shit hole city…slowly at first, then all at once.

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  20. There is a small subset of the black population that will steal anything not tied down. It doesn’t matter if they want it or not, or if it has any value at all. Even down to nickels in a fountain. They reason, “Hey, if it’s available I should take it before someone else does.” I’ve seen it happen several times. And there’s nobody who’s more frustrated and pissed off about it than other blacks themselves. But they don’t get heard; only loud-mouthed leftists who hate authority get a microphone.

    Petty theft isn’t petty to the people being robbed. They need that old bike or the crummy chair on their front porch. Getting their cars broken into is expensive to get fixed. Taking food or drinks from a convenience store cuts directly into the tiny profits earned.

    Finally, when the petty theft is prosecuted for teens, the scare can do them a world of good. I saw this with a 13 year old friend who got caught stealing a dried sausage from a store. What was it worth? 5 bucks? But they called the cops and the cop drove him home to his parents where he underwent extreme mortification. He wound up doing some community service and had no record against him, but boy did he learn a hard lesson. He told me later that, while he had to learn a few other things the hard way, he never stole so much as ink in a pen after that.

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  21. @Stan d Mute
    Yeah, I often confuse Austin and SA. Why? Texas is a strange place, that’s why. All the damn Lone Stars on every edifice, the Mexicans who speak, dress, and act like John Wayne, the insanity of Houston, Midland and DFW coexisting in the same state, etc. You’d think the alliteration of Austin-Ann Arbor would prevent my frequent conflation, but no. Anyway, I’m blaming Steve for this - too many posts and too many comments for one day.

    Texas is a strange place

    All my Ex’s live in Texas, that’s why I make my home in Tennessee!

    BTW Texas Mexicans are not like Mexicans from anywhere else I have lived. Texas Mexicans are the best!

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    Sexy Mexican Ex's in Texas?

    OK, I'm still working on it.
    , @ben tillman
    Texas Mexicans *are* the best, but they're still super-boring.
    , @Jack Hanson
    Depends. Tejanos are probably the closest thing you'll meet to Antebellum Southern Gentry outside of the Old South, and more so in some ways.

    I dated a girl who's grandmother remembers her grandmother talking about dancing with Sam Houston the night he was elected president of the Republic of Texas, and teased ME about being an immigrant.
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  22. mal says:

    Lemme get this straight; Perps could hit several stores up for $40 worth of shoplifting, placing the stolen items in their car trunk (removing the price tags from said items of course), and never really risk an arrest?

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    Lemme get this straight; Perps could hit several stores up for $40 worth of shoplifting, placing the stolen items in their car trunk (removing the price tags from said items of course), and never really risk an arrest?
     
    It's already true in many places, it's just not mentioned (or 'noticed') by the mass media. Where I live, negroes walk in and out of the grocery store with their arms full of mdse. Completely bypassing the checkout lanes.

    I watch the store staff while this is going on--they are all studiously looking in the other direction. I'm not even sure I blame them. Why get in a fight? Part of the cost of doing business in modern-day America.


    crimes that city data shows frequently end in arrests of black and Latino residents.
     
    Such crimes happen to include rape and murder, but teevee says only white males do those things.
    , @sabril
    Pretty much, but items with significant resale value (e.g. cigarettes) are normally kept in places where you can't just casually pick them up and walk out of the store without paying.

    Where I work (NYC) a lot of stores have policies that they won't challenge shoplifters and in fact employees can and do get fired for doing so. I guess it makes sense if your marginal profits are fat enough. So for example, suppose you are selling pieces of women's clothing for $100 which cost you $10 from some sweatshop in China; that your main expenses are rent and employee wages which you have to pay regardless of your sales volume. In such a case, you don't lose much if shoplifters steal even 10 or 20 pieces of clothing a week. After all, your rent is $20,000 per month and your wage expense is another $15,000. Losing an additional $1000 per month due to shrinkage is pissing in the ocean. Especially when you consider the cost of lawsuits and worker's compensation claims which might arise from confronting shoplifters.

    So why don't stores like this get cleaned out by aggressive "youths"? Based on their locations and the goods they are selling, they don't hold much appeal. You can bet that stores which sell sporting goods are more aggressive about defending their wares.
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  23. That’s not gonna go over too well with the Arab/Indian/Korean shopkeeping class. But looking on the bright side, it’ll be fun to watch woke white people try to take their place.

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    Arab/Indian/Korean shopkeeping class will vote for Democrats, no matter what. Their primary goal is breaking the power of white majority. That said, they may not like the result.

    The great question for Asians (in the US, possibly the West) in the 21st century will be: Is it better to be a junior partner in the White party or in the Black party?

    I feel the rational answer will be the latter, but driven by emotions like resentment, even ambition, they will choose the former.
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  24. istevefan says:
    @Arclight
    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their 'allies' on the left. Most law and order people on the right are exasperated and ask 'why can't they be more like us?' whereas on the left the concept is 'we don't like the end result of punishing people who commit a lot of crime, so let's just not do it and pretend this problem doesn't exist.'

    Same in education with affirmative action - they know full well their favorite pet people cannot compete at a level commensurate with their share of the population, so the answer is to pretend any yardstick that shows them coming up short is illegitimate and we'll just decree that they are just like everyone else.

    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their ‘allies’ on the left.

    So true. But blacks and latins seem to be ignorant of this. One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them. But for the most part they do not take it as an insult.

    In addition to this news blurb about Austin, here are a couple examples off the top of my head that imply blacks/latins or NAMs (Non Asian Minorities) are somewhat deficient:

    1) Schools have to tone down discipline lest too many NAMs get put into the school-to-prison pipeline.

    2) Blacks should be upset at the GOP for not allowing the restoration of voting rights for felons.

    Even black intellectuals, including the leading intellectual in America Ta-Nehisi Coates, seem to have difficulty in perceiving the insult. From an archived Sailer post:

    … “Ta-Nehisi is amazing in the way he thinks out loud and invites people in,” says James Bennet, the Atlantic’s editor in chief. “He’s carrying out his extraordinary intellectual development in public. He’s very direct about what he doesn’t know.”

    Once, Bennet recalls, Coates was engaged in a gun control debate on the Atlantic’s Web site with Jeffrey Goldberg, a well-known colleague at the magazine. Goldberg referred to the philosopher and theologian Saint Augustine. Coates confessed that he didn’t know who Saint Augustine was, then charged ahead with the debate.

    “I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!” Bennet says.

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    Saint Augustine. Coates confessed that he didn’t know who Saint Augustine was, then charged ahead with the debate.

    “I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!” Bennet says.
     

    That means Coates is so ignorant he doesn't even know St A is considered a major figure.

    I couldn't tell you a thing about St A either. Well, I know he lived in North Africa and lived through the collapse of Rome's empire there, but I couldn't tell you anything he said. But I know he was big. Same way I "know" about Kant, Schelling, Fichte etc https://youtu.be/iOk6HB609po

    Maybe Coates should try his hand at completing the system of German idealism...

    , @Harry Baldwin
    One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them.

    A lot of blacks also automatically assume the worst about their brethren. I've had eye-opening conversations with some of them over the years.
    , @Dr. X
    What? The great black intellectual Ta-Nehisi Coates doesn't know who St. Augustine was?

    I guess he never read Dr. Martin Loofer Kang's Letter From Birmingham Jail:

    "One may well ask, 'How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?' The answer is found in the fact that there are two types of laws: there are just laws, and there are unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that 'An unjust law is no law at all.'"

    , @Tom Wilkes
    One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them. But for the most part they do not take it as an insult.

    When the people insulting you are working to benefit you at the expense of your racial enemies, it's hard to get worked about any insult.

    As for St. Augustine, if you're not Catholic, why on earth would you know about him, except if you could perhaps use his name or something he wrote as a weapon, like (((Goldberg))) did?
    , @Paleo Liberal
    The sad thing is, there really are some very intelligent black writers out there, just not as fashionable as Coates.

    Try reading some of Adolph Reed, Jr's stuff some time. The guy is brilliant, left wing, but completely politically incorrect when he feels like it. Adolph Jr got a LOT of flack for first turning against the Clintons when Bill C was president, then endorsing Hillary over Obama in 2008, even though Obama is black. Turns out Adolph Jr., knew Obama when Obama was a Chicago community organizer, and thought Obama was more dishonest than Hillary Clinton. And he despised the Clintons.

    But, Adolph Jr. hates identity politics, while Coates thrives in that.

    Here is what Adolph Reed Jr had to say about Coates:

    Coates makes this stuff up as he goes along: by his own account, he read Baldwin and wanted to write like Baldwin and his editor would check him and say “Look, you’re writing these passages which don’t mean anything whatsoever” since he was so focussed on wanting to write like Baldwin absent having anything in particular to say.
     

    Yeah, well, a friend, whom I won’t out, observed to me a while ago that one of the things that really irks him (and he’s a professor) about Coates is the way that white liberals gush over him and my informant said that it reminds him of the way that upper middle class liberals fawn over the maid’s son who has gone to college and “made something of himself”.
     
    https://johnhalle.com/outragesandinterludes/adolph-reed-on-sanders-coates-and-reparations/

    (Full disclosure, Adolph Sr was a close family friend in his later years. Adolph Sr. hated the segregationists, and he hated the black nationalists even more. )
    , @sayless
    With regard to that anecdote about Coates, St Augustine and Goldberg, related by Bennet:

    Sounds as if Bennet is becoming a bit hysterical over having this moron on staff.

    "He's carrying out his extraordinary intellectual development in public."

    To the embarrassment of everyone nearby. How much longer will they keep this up? Will The Atlantic provide remediation for their dimwit hires in the future?
    , @a Newsreader


    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their ‘allies’ on the left.
     
    So true. But blacks and latins seem to be ignorant of this. One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them. But for the most part they do not take it as an insult.
     
    It's not that blacks have low expectations for blacks. It's that they think whites behave the same as blacks and get away with it.

    White liberals also think that white Republicans are getting away with crimes for which blacks are disproportionately penalized.

    White Republicans project their law and order attitude onto blacks and assume they are just not living up to their potential.

    Blacks and white liberals project black lawlessness onto whites and assume that whites get away with it due to racism (or today's buzzword "white privilege").

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  25. @istevefan

    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their ‘allies’ on the left.
     
    So true. But blacks and latins seem to be ignorant of this. One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them. But for the most part they do not take it as an insult.

    In addition to this news blurb about Austin, here are a couple examples off the top of my head that imply blacks/latins or NAMs (Non Asian Minorities) are somewhat deficient:

    1) Schools have to tone down discipline lest too many NAMs get put into the school-to-prison pipeline.

    2) Blacks should be upset at the GOP for not allowing the restoration of voting rights for felons.

    Even black intellectuals, including the leading intellectual in America Ta-Nehisi Coates, seem to have difficulty in perceiving the insult. From an archived Sailer post:

    … “Ta-Nehisi is amazing in the way he thinks out loud and invites people in,” says James Bennet, the Atlantic’s editor in chief. “He’s carrying out his extraordinary intellectual development in public. He’s very direct about what he doesn’t know.”

    Once, Bennet recalls, Coates was engaged in a gun control debate on the Atlantic’s Web site with Jeffrey Goldberg, a well-known colleague at the magazine. Goldberg referred to the philosopher and theologian Saint Augustine. Coates confessed that he didn’t know who Saint Augustine was, then charged ahead with the debate.

    “I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!” Bennet says.

     

    Saint Augustine. Coates confessed that he didn’t know who Saint Augustine was, then charged ahead with the debate.

    “I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!” Bennet says.

    That means Coates is so ignorant he doesn’t even know St A is considered a major figure.

    I couldn’t tell you a thing about St A either. Well, I know he lived in North Africa and lived through the collapse of Rome’s empire there, but I couldn’t tell you anything he said. But I know he was big. Same way I “know” about Kant, Schelling, Fichte etc https://youtu.be/iOk6HB609po

    Maybe Coates should try his hand at completing the system of German idealism…

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    I couldn’t tell you anything he said. But I know he was big. Same way I “know” about Kant, Schelling, Fichte etc
     
    I agree. There are many areas in which I do not have much knowledge, but I know enough to know that.

    It reminds of some saying I heard once about the three types of people. There are those that know, those that don't know, and those that don't even know what they don't know.
    , @bro3886
    He's black, why the hell should he know about St. Augustine? It's only cowardly, brain-dead white conservatives who think, actually they just pretend to think, that Muh Constitution, and American magic dirt will turn third-worlders into first-worlders and Americans.
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  26. Guess Philly style policing is out of the question then? Here in South Jersey recently, security at a Marshall’s sussed out 3 PoC as being an identified shoplifting crew out of Philly doing what they do, & they called Philadelphia PD to come get ‘em. They were hanging on to the male member of the crew, but he broke away from the store dicks when the heat rolled up & ran. But the two females (one of whom at least was in Muslim garb, probably useful for stuffing clothes up her floor-length clothes when hoisting goods) made a run for their SUV. The muzzie took the wheel, hitting the one responding Philly cop with the still open door, and driving straight at the other cop. He, however, drew his weapon and shot her several times in self-defense. She bought the farm. Hard cheese, homey. Administrative leave for the shooter. NAACP, of course, vowed an investigation which should come to nothing. She and the other whorebag had extensive records; the live one was held over for trial, while the runner dude was nicked in a couple of days in Philly.

    But it’s Texas that takes the hard line, eh? Not in the People’s Republic of Austin, apparently. I am so sure that this will work out just fine, though._

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    I love heart-warming human interest stories like this.
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  27. From the link:

    The state regulation known as Senate Bill 4 has been described by opponents as the “show your papers” law for allowing officers to ask about the immigration status of anybody arrested or detained.

    As if that wasn’t already legal?

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  28. Lurker says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Texas is a strange place
     
    All my Ex's live in Texas, that's why I make my home in Tennessee!

    BTW Texas Mexicans are not like Mexicans from anywhere else I have lived. Texas Mexicans are the best!

    Sexy Mexican Ex’s in Texas?

    OK, I’m still working on it.

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  29. @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Texas is a strange place
     
    All my Ex's live in Texas, that's why I make my home in Tennessee!

    BTW Texas Mexicans are not like Mexicans from anywhere else I have lived. Texas Mexicans are the best!

    Texas Mexicans *are* the best, but they’re still super-boring.

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  30. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    And we thought Starbucks was kooky.

    I guess it goes around in cycles.

    Crimes get out of control.

    Strong measures are taken.

    Crime goes down, and SWPL become complacent and call for easing on law enforcement.

    Then, crime rises again… and same thing all over again.

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    It's a replay of the 1970's on steroids. The worrisome thing is local and state governments are just getting warmed up. They are going to do everything possible to give Trump the middle-finger and just wreck the country in the process.
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  31. @Charles Erwin Wilson II

    Texas is a strange place
     
    All my Ex's live in Texas, that's why I make my home in Tennessee!

    BTW Texas Mexicans are not like Mexicans from anywhere else I have lived. Texas Mexicans are the best!

    Depends. Tejanos are probably the closest thing you’ll meet to Antebellum Southern Gentry outside of the Old South, and more so in some ways.

    I dated a girl who’s grandmother remembers her grandmother talking about dancing with Sam Houston the night he was elected president of the Republic of Texas, and teased ME about being an immigrant.

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    This is an interesting demographic niche. How do they vote?
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  32. Ivy says:

    Keep Austin Weird. That was the local bumper sticker and billboard phrase.

    The phrase triggered some due to similarity with that WEIRD acronym and those Western European patriarchal badthink overtones. A new slogan is needed.

    Keep Austin’s public defenders and grifters employed?
    or
    Don’t Gaol Austin Felons (DGAF)

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  33. istevefan says:
    @International Jew

    Saint Augustine. Coates confessed that he didn’t know who Saint Augustine was, then charged ahead with the debate.

    “I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!” Bennet says.
     

    That means Coates is so ignorant he doesn't even know St A is considered a major figure.

    I couldn't tell you a thing about St A either. Well, I know he lived in North Africa and lived through the collapse of Rome's empire there, but I couldn't tell you anything he said. But I know he was big. Same way I "know" about Kant, Schelling, Fichte etc https://youtu.be/iOk6HB609po

    Maybe Coates should try his hand at completing the system of German idealism...

    I couldn’t tell you anything he said. But I know he was big. Same way I “know” about Kant, Schelling, Fichte etc

    I agree. There are many areas in which I do not have much knowledge, but I know enough to know that.

    It reminds of some saying I heard once about the three types of people. There are those that know, those that don’t know, and those that don’t even know what they don’t know.

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  34. Dr. X says:
    @prosa123
    I've learned from working in retail that the police in my suburban New York county do not always arrest people caught shoplifting. If the person does not have a prior record, the amount stolen isn't too high,* and the _modus operandi_ is not something associated with professional theft rings, they are as likely as not to issue a summons for a future court appearance.

    * = I don't believe there's a set dollar limit, it's discretionary

    I’ve learned from working in retail that the police in my suburban New York county do not always arrest people caught shoplifting.

    They’ll sure as hell arrest you for an 11-round magazine, though.

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  35. Anon[306] • Disclaimer says:

    Let’s promote a “Shoplift for Justice Weekend.” Meet at the park each Saturday in the a.m. for inspirational speeches, then fan out through the city shoplifting food and clothing items, under $50 per person per store. Meet again Sunday afternoon to deliver your items for sorting and redistribution to the homeless and intersectional people of color. Books by alt right and Nazi authors that have been shoplifted can be burned in a big bonfire to help keep warm.

    If SJWeekends participants get any static from security guards, then “Flash-robs against Fascists” could be substituted, where 30 to 100 justice seekers enter stores at one time, each taking only $50 worth, exiting, then dispersing.

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    Oh yeah. We have dem teens doing that just about everywhere already.

    http://wjla.com/news/crime/police-georgetown-retail-store-robbed-by-flash-mob
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  36. @istevefan

    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their ‘allies’ on the left.
     
    So true. But blacks and latins seem to be ignorant of this. One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them. But for the most part they do not take it as an insult.

    In addition to this news blurb about Austin, here are a couple examples off the top of my head that imply blacks/latins or NAMs (Non Asian Minorities) are somewhat deficient:

    1) Schools have to tone down discipline lest too many NAMs get put into the school-to-prison pipeline.

    2) Blacks should be upset at the GOP for not allowing the restoration of voting rights for felons.

    Even black intellectuals, including the leading intellectual in America Ta-Nehisi Coates, seem to have difficulty in perceiving the insult. From an archived Sailer post:

    … “Ta-Nehisi is amazing in the way he thinks out loud and invites people in,” says James Bennet, the Atlantic’s editor in chief. “He’s carrying out his extraordinary intellectual development in public. He’s very direct about what he doesn’t know.”

    Once, Bennet recalls, Coates was engaged in a gun control debate on the Atlantic’s Web site with Jeffrey Goldberg, a well-known colleague at the magazine. Goldberg referred to the philosopher and theologian Saint Augustine. Coates confessed that he didn’t know who Saint Augustine was, then charged ahead with the debate.

    “I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!” Bennet says.

     

    One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them.

    A lot of blacks also automatically assume the worst about their brethren. I’ve had eye-opening conversations with some of them over the years.

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  37. Dr. X says:
    @istevefan

    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their ‘allies’ on the left.
     
    So true. But blacks and latins seem to be ignorant of this. One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them. But for the most part they do not take it as an insult.

    In addition to this news blurb about Austin, here are a couple examples off the top of my head that imply blacks/latins or NAMs (Non Asian Minorities) are somewhat deficient:

    1) Schools have to tone down discipline lest too many NAMs get put into the school-to-prison pipeline.

    2) Blacks should be upset at the GOP for not allowing the restoration of voting rights for felons.

    Even black intellectuals, including the leading intellectual in America Ta-Nehisi Coates, seem to have difficulty in perceiving the insult. From an archived Sailer post:

    … “Ta-Nehisi is amazing in the way he thinks out loud and invites people in,” says James Bennet, the Atlantic’s editor in chief. “He’s carrying out his extraordinary intellectual development in public. He’s very direct about what he doesn’t know.”

    Once, Bennet recalls, Coates was engaged in a gun control debate on the Atlantic’s Web site with Jeffrey Goldberg, a well-known colleague at the magazine. Goldberg referred to the philosopher and theologian Saint Augustine. Coates confessed that he didn’t know who Saint Augustine was, then charged ahead with the debate.

    “I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!” Bennet says.

     

    What? The great black intellectual Ta-Nehisi Coates doesn’t know who St. Augustine was?

    I guess he never read Dr. Martin Loofer Kang’s Letter From Birmingham Jail:

    “One may well ask, ‘How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others?’ The answer is found in the fact that there are two types of laws: there are just laws, and there are unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that ‘An unjust law is no law at all.’”

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  38. Mishra says:
    @mal
    Lemme get this straight; Perps could hit several stores up for $40 worth of shoplifting, placing the stolen items in their car trunk (removing the price tags from said items of course), and never really risk an arrest?

    Lemme get this straight; Perps could hit several stores up for $40 worth of shoplifting, placing the stolen items in their car trunk (removing the price tags from said items of course), and never really risk an arrest?

    It’s already true in many places, it’s just not mentioned (or ‘noticed’) by the mass media. Where I live, negroes walk in and out of the grocery store with their arms full of mdse. Completely bypassing the checkout lanes.

    I watch the store staff while this is going on–they are all studiously looking in the other direction. I’m not even sure I blame them. Why get in a fight? Part of the cost of doing business in modern-day America.

    crimes that city data shows frequently end in arrests of black and Latino residents.

    Such crimes happen to include rape and murder, but teevee says only white males do those things.

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  39. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Shoparations

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    It's called undocumented shopping.
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  40. Anon[425] • Disclaimer says:

    This has to extend to rape.

    Rapists are just spreading love, and women must ‘include’ them.

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  41. Rod1963 says:

    Once again the Culture of Death strikes back. This is going to kill retail in the city. And eateries will get wiped out unless they make you pay upfront. Gas stations will have to put everything behind the counter, because there will be nothing stopping Jose or LaQuan from lifting a case of beer and just walking out now.

    But wait it gets even better, lets talk grocery stores They will have one of two choices. Either hire armed guards and have them stationed at the entrance/exit or get pilfered out of business.

    Upscale outlets at the malls will also be in play.

    Austin’s only hope lays in the gutter class not knowing this new law.

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  42. Rod1963 says:
    @Anon
    And we thought Starbucks was kooky.

    I guess it goes around in cycles.

    Crimes get out of control.

    Strong measures are taken.

    Crime goes down, and SWPL become complacent and call for easing on law enforcement.

    Then, crime rises again... and same thing all over again.

    It’s a replay of the 1970′s on steroids. The worrisome thing is local and state governments are just getting warmed up. They are going to do everything possible to give Trump the middle-finger and just wreck the country in the process.

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    But whites are a smaller portion of the electorate than the 1970s. Will there be enough “law and order” voters left to restore sanity?

    Seems like minorities will put up with an awful lot of crime and chaos if the alternative is whitey in the driver’s seat.
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  43. @International Jew
    That's not gonna go over too well with the Arab/Indian/Korean shopkeeping class. But looking on the bright side, it'll be fun to watch woke white people try to take their place.
    https://youtu.be/QJCvgqnUkcU

    Arab/Indian/Korean shopkeeping class will vote for Democrats, no matter what. Their primary goal is breaking the power of white majority. That said, they may not like the result.

    The great question for Asians (in the US, possibly the West) in the 21st century will be: Is it better to be a junior partner in the White party or in the Black party?

    I feel the rational answer will be the latter, but driven by emotions like resentment, even ambition, they will choose the former.

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    Could be, but recently in California the Asians voted to kick out a white dem over the gas tax and placed Kim ahead in district 39 in the primaries over a Dem Mexican. In Irvine they voted for M Walters over Kate Porter in district 45.
    , @julius caesar
    Sorry, I meant rationally Asians should prefer to be junior partners in the White party, but their emotions (resentment and fear of whites, whom they see as a greater threat) would lead them to becoming de facto junior partners in the Black party.
    , @lavoisier

    The great question for Asians (in the US, possibly the West) in the 21st century will be: Is it better to be a junior partner in the White party or in the Black party?
     

    I feel the rational answer will be the latter, but driven by emotions like resentment, even ambition, they will choose the former.
     
    I think it would be better for them to be a junior partner in the White party (former).
    , @J.Ross
    This is a very broad informal observation, but I geel like the central problem is that the government is generally not real to many Asians. They are okay with voting for a bad program because they see it as an empty ritual or cost-free chore. Even communists in China take for granted that their house is their house and they will be left alone to run it as they see fit. They are always caught off guard by state intrusion, and they have a deeply implanted sense that there's no point in worrying about the government because it will do whatever it wants anyway. Then there is the example of Chinese in Malaysia trying to bribe anti-Chinese rioters, who are happy to pocket the bribe and then attack anyway.
    What I mean is if you were to ask a person from any of these groups if they see their kid being persuaded in the future not to have kids as a result of their voting patterns now, whatever ethnicity you chose would just stare at you, inscrutably. Whatever happens outside the household, surely they will be able to fix it inside the house. The idea that the house itself is the target is not widespread.
    There's a tiny group of Asian Americans who would make George Washington proud, they usually have in common that they have had bad run-ins with the State and comprehended that it doesn't have to be this way.
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  44. @Anon
    Can anyone deadname Jaweed Kaleem? I'm always amused at the birth names of these clowns.

    Quontravious Tubbins.

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  45. The rising stars need to support themselves until they get their new FAA Air Traffic Controller jobs.

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  46. So Sailer’s joke about “undocumented shopping” is now a real thing.

    This is just too funny.

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  47. theMann says:

    Well kudos to the city of Austin for being, in their own strange way, Race Realists. They are simply recognizing that non-Whites cannot be held to the same standards of behavior as Whites, whether for genetic or spiritual reasons, in either Law or Custom.

    OOPS! maybe that wasn’t the takaway we are supposed to get from this.

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  48. Anonymous[416] • Disclaimer says:

    *THIS* is what tyranny looks like.

    Basically the ‘powers that be’ licence the favored to victimize the unfavored.

    The scales of ‘justice’ are deliberately weighted to the advantage of the friends of the judiciary.

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  49. Mishra says:
    @Anon
    Let's promote a "Shoplift for Justice Weekend." Meet at the park each Saturday in the a.m. for inspirational speeches, then fan out through the city shoplifting food and clothing items, under $50 per person per store. Meet again Sunday afternoon to deliver your items for sorting and redistribution to the homeless and intersectional people of color. Books by alt right and Nazi authors that have been shoplifted can be burned in a big bonfire to help keep warm.

    If SJWeekends participants get any static from security guards, then "Flash-robs against Fascists" could be substituted, where 30 to 100 justice seekers enter stores at one time, each taking only $50 worth, exiting, then dispersing.

    Oh yeah. We have dem teens doing that just about everywhere already.

    http://wjla.com/news/crime/police-georgetown-retail-store-robbed-by-flash-mob

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  50. sabril says:
    @mal
    Lemme get this straight; Perps could hit several stores up for $40 worth of shoplifting, placing the stolen items in their car trunk (removing the price tags from said items of course), and never really risk an arrest?

    Pretty much, but items with significant resale value (e.g. cigarettes) are normally kept in places where you can’t just casually pick them up and walk out of the store without paying.

    Where I work (NYC) a lot of stores have policies that they won’t challenge shoplifters and in fact employees can and do get fired for doing so. I guess it makes sense if your marginal profits are fat enough. So for example, suppose you are selling pieces of women’s clothing for $100 which cost you $10 from some sweatshop in China; that your main expenses are rent and employee wages which you have to pay regardless of your sales volume. In such a case, you don’t lose much if shoplifters steal even 10 or 20 pieces of clothing a week. After all, your rent is $20,000 per month and your wage expense is another $15,000. Losing an additional $1000 per month due to shrinkage is pissing in the ocean. Especially when you consider the cost of lawsuits and worker’s compensation claims which might arise from confronting shoplifters.

    So why don’t stores like this get cleaned out by aggressive “youths”? Based on their locations and the goods they are selling, they don’t hold much appeal. You can bet that stores which sell sporting goods are more aggressive about defending their wares.

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    It seems like you'd also get sued for firing someone who challenged a shoplifter. And no, the company is not going to defend the lawsuit and go on the stand and testify that the employee disobeyed orders to allow shoplifting. New York Post front page right there.
    , @prosa123
    "Where I work (NYC) a lot of stores have policies that they won’t challenge shoplifters and in fact employees can and do get fired for doing so."

    Most national retailers have similar policies applicable everywhere. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if almost all do.
    , @Ed
    A worker gets killed or harmed by a shoplifter the best their corporate bosses will do is send some flowers to the funeral. It’s not worth it from the employee standpoint. From the corporations stand point who needs a Sharpton protest and the media calling them racist for a week? Best let them take it. Besides with facial recognition software they’ll soon be able to capture the culprits later it merely ban them from the store going forward.
    , @Anonymous
    Often the biggest thieves of stock aren't shoplifters but the employees themselves...
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  51. Anon[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @sabril
    Pretty much, but items with significant resale value (e.g. cigarettes) are normally kept in places where you can't just casually pick them up and walk out of the store without paying.

    Where I work (NYC) a lot of stores have policies that they won't challenge shoplifters and in fact employees can and do get fired for doing so. I guess it makes sense if your marginal profits are fat enough. So for example, suppose you are selling pieces of women's clothing for $100 which cost you $10 from some sweatshop in China; that your main expenses are rent and employee wages which you have to pay regardless of your sales volume. In such a case, you don't lose much if shoplifters steal even 10 or 20 pieces of clothing a week. After all, your rent is $20,000 per month and your wage expense is another $15,000. Losing an additional $1000 per month due to shrinkage is pissing in the ocean. Especially when you consider the cost of lawsuits and worker's compensation claims which might arise from confronting shoplifters.

    So why don't stores like this get cleaned out by aggressive "youths"? Based on their locations and the goods they are selling, they don't hold much appeal. You can bet that stores which sell sporting goods are more aggressive about defending their wares.

    It seems like you’d also get sued for firing someone who challenged a shoplifter. And no, the company is not going to defend the lawsuit and go on the stand and testify that the employee disobeyed orders to allow shoplifting. New York Post front page right there.

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    It seems like you’d also get sued for firing someone who challenged a shoplifter. And no, the company is not going to defend the lawsuit and go on the stand and testify that the employee disobeyed orders to allow shoplifting. New York Post front page right there.
     
    You have no idea what you are talking about. If you don't believe me, call a few NYC employment attorneys, tell them you've been fired from your retail job for challenging a shoplifter against company policy. See if they'll take the case on contingency, which they won't. Probably a couple will gently explain to you the concept of "at-will" employment.

    Once you're done with that, send an e-mail to the NY Post news tips email address telling them the same story and see if they get back to you, which they won't.

    Or better yet, cite the New York statute which makes it unlawful to fire an employee for challenging a shoplifter against company policy. Here's a link to get you started:

    https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2017/

    Good hunting!
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  52. @Massimo Heitor
    I live in Austin, TX. I love the city despite the nutty left wing political views. This is the first i've heard of this story.

    Yes, but Joel Konkin types always talk about how great Austin is. Its overrated and you could do just as good living in Plano. One can like a town even if its liberal.

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  53. @julius caesar
    Arab/Indian/Korean shopkeeping class will vote for Democrats, no matter what. Their primary goal is breaking the power of white majority. That said, they may not like the result.

    The great question for Asians (in the US, possibly the West) in the 21st century will be: Is it better to be a junior partner in the White party or in the Black party?

    I feel the rational answer will be the latter, but driven by emotions like resentment, even ambition, they will choose the former.

    Could be, but recently in California the Asians voted to kick out a white dem over the gas tax and placed Kim ahead in district 39 in the primaries over a Dem Mexican. In Irvine they voted for M Walters over Kate Porter in district 45.

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  54. Altai says:

    Jaweed Kaleem is the national race and justice correspondent at the Los Angeles Times, where he writes about how race and ethnicity shape our evolving understanding of what it means to be American.

    Wait, how can any one person do this? Jaweed Kaleem comes from a minority so small and so recent that outside LA and New York you’d be hard pressed to meet somebody who’d ever met one. Surely his wealthy, non-ghetto upbringing and near-white status make him a fraud. I mean, wouldn’t you need to be from a group that has a long, prominent history in America?

    How does he know how everyone else feels what it is to be American? From his pictures he seems more like a Starbucks-American, whose definition of American is defined by it’s meaninglessness.

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    Based on the stories that he has written and his speech pattern, I would guess that Jaweed Kaleem is of the homosexual persuasion. Couple that with being raised in a Muslim family (no mention that he is Muslim), then he is just about qualified to write about anything. The black reporter that he replaced at the LA Times, Dexter Thomas, is working on a PhD at Cornell in East Asian Studies. Thomas went on to work at Vice.

    https://vimeo.com/129365860

    A graduate of Emerson College, Kaleem grew up in a Muslim family in Washington, D.C., and speaks Hindi/Urdu and Punjabi. He was a 2014 Senior Fellow at the East-West Center and 2013 fellow at the International Center for Journalists.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/readers-rep/la-rr-jaweed-kaleem-race-justice-20160321-story.html
     

    Kaleem attended West Springfield High School in Springfield, VA.
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  55. EdwardM says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Depends. Tejanos are probably the closest thing you'll meet to Antebellum Southern Gentry outside of the Old South, and more so in some ways.

    I dated a girl who's grandmother remembers her grandmother talking about dancing with Sam Houston the night he was elected president of the Republic of Texas, and teased ME about being an immigrant.

    This is an interesting demographic niche. How do they vote?

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    Conservative, if not reactionary. Think about the aristocratic hacienda owner that was a staple in Westerns and you have a good idea of the attitudes and culture of the Tejano. You're talking about people who have land deeds from New Spain in some cases.

    There is a very strong sentiment that goes "stay on your side of the river" (the Rio Grande) when it comes to illegals, or more recent arrivals.

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  56. @Altai

    Jaweed Kaleem is the national race and justice correspondent at the Los Angeles Times, where he writes about how race and ethnicity shape our evolving understanding of what it means to be American.
     
    Wait, how can any one person do this? Jaweed Kaleem comes from a minority so small and so recent that outside LA and New York you'd be hard pressed to meet somebody who'd ever met one. Surely his wealthy, non-ghetto upbringing and near-white status make him a fraud. I mean, wouldn't you need to be from a group that has a long, prominent history in America?

    How does he know how everyone else feels what it is to be American? From his pictures he seems more like a Starbucks-American, whose definition of American is defined by it's meaninglessness.

    Based on the stories that he has written and his speech pattern, I would guess that Jaweed Kaleem is of the homosexual persuasion. Couple that with being raised in a Muslim family (no mention that he is Muslim), then he is just about qualified to write about anything. The black reporter that he replaced at the LA Times, Dexter Thomas, is working on a PhD at Cornell in East Asian Studies. Thomas went on to work at Vice.

    A graduate of Emerson College, Kaleem grew up in a Muslim family in Washington, D.C., and speaks Hindi/Urdu and Punjabi. He was a 2014 Senior Fellow at the East-West Center and 2013 fellow at the International Center for Journalists.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/readers-rep/la-rr-jaweed-kaleem-race-justice-20160321-story.html

    Kaleem attended West Springfield High School in Springfield, VA.

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    I somehow don't think the posterity of this nation's founders has anything to learn from a muslim, much less a homosexual muslim. You'd think Bezos would know his customers better. Must be some hidden agenda.
    , @J.Ross
    South-West Asians (and sometimes East Asians) have speaking patterns and mannerisms that can appear effeminate to us because to them it's a class marker. The Turkish equivalent of chivalry dictated hitting an opponent with an open hand, for example.
    But yeah that guy's gay.
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  57. This is like the opposite of Giuliani & Bratton’s policing strategy in NY back in the 90s, the old ‘broken windows’ theory. It needs a catchy name like that. Low-rent law-breakers, maybe? Or how about scott-free scofflaws?

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  58. Aardvark says:
    @Glaivester
    Actually, I would suspect that bookstores don't have to worry too much about shoplifting, except in the porn section.

    Maybe someone could secretly fund the bookstore to put a book display outside the shop on the sidewalk, where it can’t easily be seen that is loaded with books like “How to Behave for Dummies” or “Upstanding Living for Idiots” or “Nonsensical Prose by Tiny Duck” and see if any of these books disappear.

    Was Jaweed an Incel?

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  59. @JerseyJeffersonian
    Guess Philly style policing is out of the question then? Here in South Jersey recently, security at a Marshall's sussed out 3 PoC as being an identified shoplifting crew out of Philly doing what they do, & they called Philadelphia PD to come get 'em. They were hanging on to the male member of the crew, but he broke away from the store dicks when the heat rolled up & ran. But the two females (one of whom at least was in Muslim garb, probably useful for stuffing clothes up her floor-length clothes when hoisting goods) made a run for their SUV. The muzzie took the wheel, hitting the one responding Philly cop with the still open door, and driving straight at the other cop. He, however, drew his weapon and shot her several times in self-defense. She bought the farm. Hard cheese, homey. Administrative leave for the shooter. NAACP, of course, vowed an investigation which should come to nothing. She and the other whorebag had extensive records; the live one was held over for trial, while the runner dude was nicked in a couple of days in Philly.

    But it's Texas that takes the hard line, eh? Not in the People's Republic of Austin, apparently. I am so sure that this will work out just fine, though._

    I love heart-warming human interest stories like this.

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  60. sabril says:
    @Anon
    It seems like you'd also get sued for firing someone who challenged a shoplifter. And no, the company is not going to defend the lawsuit and go on the stand and testify that the employee disobeyed orders to allow shoplifting. New York Post front page right there.

    It seems like you’d also get sued for firing someone who challenged a shoplifter. And no, the company is not going to defend the lawsuit and go on the stand and testify that the employee disobeyed orders to allow shoplifting. New York Post front page right there.

    You have no idea what you are talking about. If you don’t believe me, call a few NYC employment attorneys, tell them you’ve been fired from your retail job for challenging a shoplifter against company policy. See if they’ll take the case on contingency, which they won’t. Probably a couple will gently explain to you the concept of “at-will” employment.

    Once you’re done with that, send an e-mail to the NY Post news tips email address telling them the same story and see if they get back to you, which they won’t.

    Or better yet, cite the New York statute which makes it unlawful to fire an employee for challenging a shoplifter against company policy. Here’s a link to get you started:

    https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2017/

    Good hunting!

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  61. I don’t know Texas law, but why couldn’t a business owner make a direct call to the sheriff’s department and bypass the city PD?

    In my state, if the shoplifter fights back when a store employee stops them, it goes from a slap on the wrist misdemeanor to felony armed robbery.

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  62. Miro23 says:
    @Sunbeam
    Geez I wonder if they've thought this through at all.

    What happens if Dollar General and Walmart pull out of that town? Although if you think about it upscale businesses would still have the benefit of protection for their products - mostly.

    How can this possibly not result in a lawsuit by the owner of a gas station who had someone just grab a case of beer from the cooler and run out, with no investigation of the crime even.

    Whereas grabbing a $1000 gold chain from a jewelry store will still get you prosecuted?

    But what do these Austin guys do if businesses for downscale people just decide to move or shut their doors? Or is that the plan somehow?

    A growing trend seems to be “Feed as you Go”, eating snacks and drinks from the shelves in the supermarket while you shop and dumping the wrappers and cans prior to the check-out. It’s shopping with a free meal for the family, and something I’ve only seen recently.

    How do supermarkets deal with this, or do they just increase prices?

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    There was a movie back in the 70's where the first scene was the protagonist was grazing his way through a store. To the point of making a sandwich and using a napkin.

    Grocery stores have a certain amount of shrinkage built into their prices. If someone is caught they can be tresspassed from the store and or have shoplifting charges pressed.
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  63. Anon7 says:

    OT: This Is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things Dept.

    Algeria has turned off its internet nationwide during high school exams in a bid to tackle cheating.
    Internet service, both mobile and fixed line, will go off for an hour after the start of each high school diploma exam to stop any leaks.
    Blackouts will continue throughout the exam season, from 20-25 June.
    The move follows widespread cheating in 2016, with questions leaked online before and during tests.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-44557028

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  64. Neuday says:
    @Triumph104
    Based on the stories that he has written and his speech pattern, I would guess that Jaweed Kaleem is of the homosexual persuasion. Couple that with being raised in a Muslim family (no mention that he is Muslim), then he is just about qualified to write about anything. The black reporter that he replaced at the LA Times, Dexter Thomas, is working on a PhD at Cornell in East Asian Studies. Thomas went on to work at Vice.

    https://vimeo.com/129365860

    A graduate of Emerson College, Kaleem grew up in a Muslim family in Washington, D.C., and speaks Hindi/Urdu and Punjabi. He was a 2014 Senior Fellow at the East-West Center and 2013 fellow at the International Center for Journalists.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/readers-rep/la-rr-jaweed-kaleem-race-justice-20160321-story.html
     

    Kaleem attended West Springfield High School in Springfield, VA.

    I somehow don’t think the posterity of this nation’s founders has anything to learn from a muslim, much less a homosexual muslim. You’d think Bezos would know his customers better. Must be some hidden agenda.

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    There must be a hidden agenda in your post -- it doesn't make a bit of sense. The "posterity of this nation's founders" is not the target audience of the Los Angeles Times.


    Jeff Bezos does not own the LA Times; he owns The Washington Post. The LA Times is owned by Patrick Soon-Shiong, a South African-American billionaire of Chinese descent.
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  65. gsjackson says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Like it or not, states, counties, and cities have no standing regarding any federal law. Arizona found that out and so will California and other places. It is case law at the highest level, the Supreme Court of the U.S.

    Follow and enforce the law. Do not obstruct justice, which is a federal crime.

    This law is getting the kind of blowback that can finally turn Texas into a blue state. But, it's not only that law; its combination with current circumstances about immigrant family separations only exacerbate the blowback. Trump wasn't paying attention to the counterproductive effects of his arrogance. He seems to be noticing how the GOP isn't his most fervent support either.

    Blowback against a soft-on-crime law will have the effect of turning Texas into a Democratic Party state??? That would certainly be an about-face from the last half century or so of American history.

    I’m relatively new here, and gather TD is somewhat infamous. Does he/she normally get responded to, or ignored?

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  66. Both mom & pop shops (if there are any left) and national chains will close up if shoplifting has no penalty. They won’t be able to afford to stay in business.

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    I don't know if that's true. A lot of stores are full of near-worthless crap, cranked out (literally) by the boatload from Chinese factories. Stuff that gets cheaper every year due to advances in manufacturing technology.

    If 95% of the store's expenses are rent, insurance, wages, and utilities, it won't make much of a dent in the bottom line if a big chunk of the merchandise ends up getting stolen.

    One interesting comparison is between Manhattan (where shoplifting laws are not aggressively enforced) and Bergen County, New Jersey (where shoplifting laws are aggressively enforced). There hasn't been a big exodus of retailers across the George Washington Bridge.

    Probably it won't be long before people start giving consumer goods away for free if you are willing to be subjected to embedded advertising. Actually, in New York City you don't have to pay for pens anymore, you can just pick them up at the bank.
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  67. Ben H says:

    I was talking to an old retired (but still connected) cop a few weeks ago who said that some big retailers you have heard of have basically made shoplifting legal: if you walk out of the door with stuff they won’t stop you unless there is a security guard right there. If employees even just take your license plate they will be fired.

    Pro shoplifters know this and take advantage, but presumably there are few enough of them that the company is willing to take the loss.

    No I’m not going to say which store!

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    I was talking to an old retired (but still connected) cop a few weeks ago who said that some big retailers you have heard of have basically made shoplifting legal: if you walk out of the door with stuff they won’t stop you unless there is a security guard right there. If employees even just take your license plate they will be fired.
     
    At my stepson's store, there was a murder a couple months ago. Security guard saw suspicious activity and notified an off-duty officer. Off-duty officer detained the suspect, ran a check and found a warrant, and called DPD. Two officers arrived, and as they were about to cuff him, the suspect (a Longoria), pulled a gun and shot the security guard and the on-duty officers, killing one of them.

    Any way, the guy across the alley works at another location and says his boss never mentioned the shooting at the other store. He did say they already had a policy of "don't challenge the customer -- just let it go".
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  68. @Reg Cæsar

    What happens if Dollar General and Walmart pull out of that town?
     
    Or, God help us, Half Price Books. In its home state.

    The tuppies would then have to pay full price at Barnes and Noble.

    https://78fdedfcd9f61142ad83-7da481e617a8188f8b1378dd1c3908ab.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/005-1/large.jpg

    The Upper Midwest Half-Price Books don’t have porn sections (except for romance novels) but they do have CDs, DVDs and comic books ripe for plucking.

    BTW, will this change “dine-and-dash” to “dine-and-casually-walk-out-giving-your-waitress-and-the-manager-the-finger”?

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    The Upper Midwest Half-Price Books don’t have porn sections (except for romance novels) but they do have CDs, DVDs and comic books ripe for plucking.
     
    No porn section at the original store, either. And the DVD's (as opposed to the cases) are behind the counter.
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  69. Corn says:
    @Rod1963
    It's a replay of the 1970's on steroids. The worrisome thing is local and state governments are just getting warmed up. They are going to do everything possible to give Trump the middle-finger and just wreck the country in the process.

    But whites are a smaller portion of the electorate than the 1970s. Will there be enough “law and order” voters left to restore sanity?

    Seems like minorities will put up with an awful lot of crime and chaos if the alternative is whitey in the driver’s seat.

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  70. @istevefan

    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their ‘allies’ on the left.
     
    So true. But blacks and latins seem to be ignorant of this. One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them. But for the most part they do not take it as an insult.

    In addition to this news blurb about Austin, here are a couple examples off the top of my head that imply blacks/latins or NAMs (Non Asian Minorities) are somewhat deficient:

    1) Schools have to tone down discipline lest too many NAMs get put into the school-to-prison pipeline.

    2) Blacks should be upset at the GOP for not allowing the restoration of voting rights for felons.

    Even black intellectuals, including the leading intellectual in America Ta-Nehisi Coates, seem to have difficulty in perceiving the insult. From an archived Sailer post:

    … “Ta-Nehisi is amazing in the way he thinks out loud and invites people in,” says James Bennet, the Atlantic’s editor in chief. “He’s carrying out his extraordinary intellectual development in public. He’s very direct about what he doesn’t know.”

    Once, Bennet recalls, Coates was engaged in a gun control debate on the Atlantic’s Web site with Jeffrey Goldberg, a well-known colleague at the magazine. Goldberg referred to the philosopher and theologian Saint Augustine. Coates confessed that he didn’t know who Saint Augustine was, then charged ahead with the debate.

    “I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!” Bennet says.

     

    One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them. But for the most part they do not take it as an insult.

    When the people insulting you are working to benefit you at the expense of your racial enemies, it’s hard to get worked about any insult.

    As for St. Augustine, if you’re not Catholic, why on earth would you know about him, except if you could perhaps use his name or something he wrote as a weapon, like (((Goldberg))) did?

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    As for St. Augustine, if you’re not Catholic, why on earth would you know about him, except if you could perhaps use his name or something he wrote as a weapon, like (((Goldberg))) did?

     

    St Augustine was one of the cornerstone thinkers in the Western tradition. His theological insights, especially on the nature of God's grace, form the foundation of much of protestantism, especially Calvinism.

    His Confessions was essentially the first autobiography, and has had ongoing influence in literature and philosophy.

    In other words, his influence extends far beyond Roman Catholicism. He was a giant of the West whose name anyone who claims to be a writer (like TN Coates) should recognize.

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    @sabril
    Pretty much, but items with significant resale value (e.g. cigarettes) are normally kept in places where you can't just casually pick them up and walk out of the store without paying.

    Where I work (NYC) a lot of stores have policies that they won't challenge shoplifters and in fact employees can and do get fired for doing so. I guess it makes sense if your marginal profits are fat enough. So for example, suppose you are selling pieces of women's clothing for $100 which cost you $10 from some sweatshop in China; that your main expenses are rent and employee wages which you have to pay regardless of your sales volume. In such a case, you don't lose much if shoplifters steal even 10 or 20 pieces of clothing a week. After all, your rent is $20,000 per month and your wage expense is another $15,000. Losing an additional $1000 per month due to shrinkage is pissing in the ocean. Especially when you consider the cost of lawsuits and worker's compensation claims which might arise from confronting shoplifters.

    So why don't stores like this get cleaned out by aggressive "youths"? Based on their locations and the goods they are selling, they don't hold much appeal. You can bet that stores which sell sporting goods are more aggressive about defending their wares.

    “Where I work (NYC) a lot of stores have policies that they won’t challenge shoplifters and in fact employees can and do get fired for doing so.”

    Most national retailers have similar policies applicable everywhere. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if almost all do.

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  72. But the biggest crime in this area will be for shop keepers to keep an eye on shoplifters, as that is another disparate impact crime. Maybe we can jail shopkeepers and their employees for not giving proper respect to shoplifters.

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    But the biggest crime in this area will be for shop keepers to keep an eye on shoplifters, as that is another disparate impact crime. Maybe we can jail shopkeepers and their employees for not giving proper respect to shoplifters.
     
    This makes it sound like Congressional Special Interests are high class shoplifters. Call them out or don't give them proper respect and you're in trouble.
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  73. @julius caesar
    Arab/Indian/Korean shopkeeping class will vote for Democrats, no matter what. Their primary goal is breaking the power of white majority. That said, they may not like the result.

    The great question for Asians (in the US, possibly the West) in the 21st century will be: Is it better to be a junior partner in the White party or in the Black party?

    I feel the rational answer will be the latter, but driven by emotions like resentment, even ambition, they will choose the former.

    Sorry, I meant rationally Asians should prefer to be junior partners in the White party, but their emotions (resentment and fear of whites, whom they see as a greater threat) would lead them to becoming de facto junior partners in the Black party.

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  74. Ed says:
    @sabril
    Pretty much, but items with significant resale value (e.g. cigarettes) are normally kept in places where you can't just casually pick them up and walk out of the store without paying.

    Where I work (NYC) a lot of stores have policies that they won't challenge shoplifters and in fact employees can and do get fired for doing so. I guess it makes sense if your marginal profits are fat enough. So for example, suppose you are selling pieces of women's clothing for $100 which cost you $10 from some sweatshop in China; that your main expenses are rent and employee wages which you have to pay regardless of your sales volume. In such a case, you don't lose much if shoplifters steal even 10 or 20 pieces of clothing a week. After all, your rent is $20,000 per month and your wage expense is another $15,000. Losing an additional $1000 per month due to shrinkage is pissing in the ocean. Especially when you consider the cost of lawsuits and worker's compensation claims which might arise from confronting shoplifters.

    So why don't stores like this get cleaned out by aggressive "youths"? Based on their locations and the goods they are selling, they don't hold much appeal. You can bet that stores which sell sporting goods are more aggressive about defending their wares.

    A worker gets killed or harmed by a shoplifter the best their corporate bosses will do is send some flowers to the funeral. It’s not worth it from the employee standpoint. From the corporations stand point who needs a Sharpton protest and the media calling them racist for a week? Best let them take it. Besides with facial recognition software they’ll soon be able to capture the culprits later it merely ban them from the store going forward.

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    I've mentioned before my friend who manages an Old Navy store in Citrus Heights, CA. Rampant theft and they always call the cops. The thief is long gone by the time the cops get there, but the profile is taken, often there's good pictures and a report is filed. These people wind up getting caught eventually. She says they're either Russian or black.

    I'm waiting for the day when all our stores have armed guards out front, like in parts of NYC. Lovely.

    We were just visiting in Israel. There were armed guards everywhere, in hotels, in stores. Before entering a grocery store, my friend had her purse searched. They're dealing with terrorists, but it could be the same in CA with so many thieves.
    , @sabril

    A worker gets killed or harmed by a shoplifter the best their corporate bosses will do is send some flowers to the funeral. It’s not worth it from the employee standpoint
     
    Agreed, but some for some retail workers it apparently triggers their territorial instincts if they see a shoplifter.

    In fact, it's pretty common in life to witness some misdeed by a stranger and feel the urge to confront them or otherwise act against them when it's safer and easier to just ignore it and/or walk away.
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  75. @Ed
    A worker gets killed or harmed by a shoplifter the best their corporate bosses will do is send some flowers to the funeral. It’s not worth it from the employee standpoint. From the corporations stand point who needs a Sharpton protest and the media calling them racist for a week? Best let them take it. Besides with facial recognition software they’ll soon be able to capture the culprits later it merely ban them from the store going forward.

    I’ve mentioned before my friend who manages an Old Navy store in Citrus Heights, CA. Rampant theft and they always call the cops. The thief is long gone by the time the cops get there, but the profile is taken, often there’s good pictures and a report is filed. These people wind up getting caught eventually. She says they’re either Russian or black.

    I’m waiting for the day when all our stores have armed guards out front, like in parts of NYC. Lovely.

    We were just visiting in Israel. There were armed guards everywhere, in hotels, in stores. Before entering a grocery store, my friend had her purse searched. They’re dealing with terrorists, but it could be the same in CA with so many thieves.

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  76. @Anon
    Shoparations

    It’s called undocumented shopping.

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  77. @istevefan

    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their ‘allies’ on the left.
     
    So true. But blacks and latins seem to be ignorant of this. One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them. But for the most part they do not take it as an insult.

    In addition to this news blurb about Austin, here are a couple examples off the top of my head that imply blacks/latins or NAMs (Non Asian Minorities) are somewhat deficient:

    1) Schools have to tone down discipline lest too many NAMs get put into the school-to-prison pipeline.

    2) Blacks should be upset at the GOP for not allowing the restoration of voting rights for felons.

    Even black intellectuals, including the leading intellectual in America Ta-Nehisi Coates, seem to have difficulty in perceiving the insult. From an archived Sailer post:

    … “Ta-Nehisi is amazing in the way he thinks out loud and invites people in,” says James Bennet, the Atlantic’s editor in chief. “He’s carrying out his extraordinary intellectual development in public. He’s very direct about what he doesn’t know.”

    Once, Bennet recalls, Coates was engaged in a gun control debate on the Atlantic’s Web site with Jeffrey Goldberg, a well-known colleague at the magazine. Goldberg referred to the philosopher and theologian Saint Augustine. Coates confessed that he didn’t know who Saint Augustine was, then charged ahead with the debate.

    “I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!” Bennet says.

     

    The sad thing is, there really are some very intelligent black writers out there, just not as fashionable as Coates.

    Try reading some of Adolph Reed, Jr’s stuff some time. The guy is brilliant, left wing, but completely politically incorrect when he feels like it. Adolph Jr got a LOT of flack for first turning against the Clintons when Bill C was president, then endorsing Hillary over Obama in 2008, even though Obama is black. Turns out Adolph Jr., knew Obama when Obama was a Chicago community organizer, and thought Obama was more dishonest than Hillary Clinton. And he despised the Clintons.

    But, Adolph Jr. hates identity politics, while Coates thrives in that.

    Here is what Adolph Reed Jr had to say about Coates:

    Coates makes this stuff up as he goes along: by his own account, he read Baldwin and wanted to write like Baldwin and his editor would check him and say “Look, you’re writing these passages which don’t mean anything whatsoever” since he was so focussed on wanting to write like Baldwin absent having anything in particular to say.

    Yeah, well, a friend, whom I won’t out, observed to me a while ago that one of the things that really irks him (and he’s a professor) about Coates is the way that white liberals gush over him and my informant said that it reminds him of the way that upper middle class liberals fawn over the maid’s son who has gone to college and “made something of himself”.

    https://johnhalle.com/outragesandinterludes/adolph-reed-on-sanders-coates-and-reparations/

    (Full disclosure, Adolph Sr was a close family friend in his later years. Adolph Sr. hated the segregationists, and he hated the black nationalists even more. )

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  78. lavoisier says: • Website
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    Arab/Indian/Korean shopkeeping class will vote for Democrats, no matter what. Their primary goal is breaking the power of white majority. That said, they may not like the result.

    The great question for Asians (in the US, possibly the West) in the 21st century will be: Is it better to be a junior partner in the White party or in the Black party?

    I feel the rational answer will be the latter, but driven by emotions like resentment, even ambition, they will choose the former.

    The great question for Asians (in the US, possibly the West) in the 21st century will be: Is it better to be a junior partner in the White party or in the Black party?

    I feel the rational answer will be the latter, but driven by emotions like resentment, even ambition, they will choose the former.

    I think it would be better for them to be a junior partner in the White party (former).

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  79. sabril says:
    @Ed
    A worker gets killed or harmed by a shoplifter the best their corporate bosses will do is send some flowers to the funeral. It’s not worth it from the employee standpoint. From the corporations stand point who needs a Sharpton protest and the media calling them racist for a week? Best let them take it. Besides with facial recognition software they’ll soon be able to capture the culprits later it merely ban them from the store going forward.

    A worker gets killed or harmed by a shoplifter the best their corporate bosses will do is send some flowers to the funeral. It’s not worth it from the employee standpoint

    Agreed, but some for some retail workers it apparently triggers their territorial instincts if they see a shoplifter.

    In fact, it’s pretty common in life to witness some misdeed by a stranger and feel the urge to confront them or otherwise act against them when it’s safer and easier to just ignore it and/or walk away.

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  80. @Reg Cæsar

    What happens if Dollar General and Walmart pull out of that town?
     
    Or, God help us, Half Price Books. In its home state.

    The tuppies would then have to pay full price at Barnes and Noble.

    https://78fdedfcd9f61142ad83-7da481e617a8188f8b1378dd1c3908ab.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/005-1/large.jpg

    Just heard last night that Half Price Books is now in the business of gentrification.

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  81. sabril says:
    @Rosamond Vincy
    Both mom & pop shops (if there are any left) and national chains will close up if shoplifting has no penalty. They won't be able to afford to stay in business.

    I don’t know if that’s true. A lot of stores are full of near-worthless crap, cranked out (literally) by the boatload from Chinese factories. Stuff that gets cheaper every year due to advances in manufacturing technology.

    If 95% of the store’s expenses are rent, insurance, wages, and utilities, it won’t make much of a dent in the bottom line if a big chunk of the merchandise ends up getting stolen.

    One interesting comparison is between Manhattan (where shoplifting laws are not aggressively enforced) and Bergen County, New Jersey (where shoplifting laws are aggressively enforced). There hasn’t been a big exodus of retailers across the George Washington Bridge.

    Probably it won’t be long before people start giving consumer goods away for free if you are willing to be subjected to embedded advertising. Actually, in New York City you don’t have to pay for pens anymore, you can just pick them up at the bank.

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  82. @Elf Himself
    I recall hearing in the last year or so that my home town of Minneapolis was going to stop citing people for pissing in public...disparate impact, don't you know...

    I recall hearing in the last year or so that my home town of Minneapolis was going to stop citing people for pissing in public…disparate impact, don’t you know…

    I presume, then, that they’ll be repealing the state income tax any day now.

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    I presume, then, that they’ll be repealing the state income tax any day now.
     
    Wait, the income tax disproportionally impacts blacks and Indians...?
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  83. @Tom Wilkes
    The Upper Midwest Half-Price Books don't have porn sections (except for romance novels) but they do have CDs, DVDs and comic books ripe for plucking.

    BTW, will this change "dine-and-dash" to "dine-and-casually-walk-out-giving-your-waitress-and-the-manager-the-finger"?

    The Upper Midwest Half-Price Books don’t have porn sections (except for romance novels) but they do have CDs, DVDs and comic books ripe for plucking.

    No porn section at the original store, either. And the DVD’s (as opposed to the cases) are behind the counter.

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  84. Olorin says:
    @GLT
    Maybe they are trying to be where the leader in drone delivery tech ends up.

    My first reaction.

    Who was behind this resolution, what are their connections, and who are their friends.

    Not small local retailers (independent OR franchise) is my guess. $49.99 in shoplifting for each person who walks into a “mom and pop” store is going to play hell with the sustainability of those businesses.

    I’d also look to see who in the bulletproof-plate-glass-retail-cage sector is involved. A guy can make a lot of money installing people cages through which retailers pass wares.

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  85. This is completely false. I watch the local news every night waiting for the national news. The local stations do pretty good journalism about crashes, crimes, the City Council and what is happening in Manchaca the worst of the bad neighborhoods. The city council, very liberal, has no sway on police practice; Austin has a city manager. Other indices: twice on a city bus I saw a black teenager skip paying the fare, acting out (or not acting) being a nut case. The black lady driver wisely chose not to make an issue of it by calling the cops (and pissing everybody off while we waited). The other time was also a black lady driver who did not challenge a black teenager who waltzed past where you pay. Rare sights indeed. Austin has a very low murder rate, about 30 a year. However, property thefts are quite high because so many people live large in nice houses. As far as public dope smoking, you never see it unless you go down the alley. The feds are constantly busting up a serious gang presence in Manchaca and those parts. Cops wouldn’t be interesting in busting folks for personal use–that’s been the case for decades. You have to go far into what is left of the east Austin ghetto (it’s been gentrified like you wouldn’t believe) to find quicky-marts with plexiglass protected cashiers. Austin is riding an incredible tide of prosperity with a crop of skyscrapers going up in downtown like you wouldn’t believe.

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    You have to go far into what is left of the east Austin ghetto (it’s been gentrified like you wouldn’t believe) to find quicky-marts with plexiglass protected cashiers.
     
    Does the City of Austin extend all the way out to the Pickle Parkway? I saw some slums just to the west of the toll road last time I drove it -- is that part of the "east Austin ghetto" you're talking about?
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  86. @Ben H
    I was talking to an old retired (but still connected) cop a few weeks ago who said that some big retailers you have heard of have basically made shoplifting legal: if you walk out of the door with stuff they won't stop you unless there is a security guard right there. If employees even just take your license plate they will be fired.

    Pro shoplifters know this and take advantage, but presumably there are few enough of them that the company is willing to take the loss.

    No I'm not going to say which store!

    I was talking to an old retired (but still connected) cop a few weeks ago who said that some big retailers you have heard of have basically made shoplifting legal: if you walk out of the door with stuff they won’t stop you unless there is a security guard right there. If employees even just take your license plate they will be fired.

    At my stepson’s store, there was a murder a couple months ago. Security guard saw suspicious activity and notified an off-duty officer. Off-duty officer detained the suspect, ran a check and found a warrant, and called DPD. Two officers arrived, and as they were about to cuff him, the suspect (a Longoria), pulled a gun and shot the security guard and the on-duty officers, killing one of them.

    Any way, the guy across the alley works at another location and says his boss never mentioned the shooting at the other store. He did say they already had a policy of “don’t challenge the customer — just let it go”.

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  87. @Miro23
    A growing trend seems to be "Feed as you Go", eating snacks and drinks from the shelves in the supermarket while you shop and dumping the wrappers and cans prior to the check-out. It's shopping with a free meal for the family, and something I've only seen recently.

    How do supermarkets deal with this, or do they just increase prices?

    There was a movie back in the 70′s where the first scene was the protagonist was grazing his way through a store. To the point of making a sandwich and using a napkin.

    Grocery stores have a certain amount of shrinkage built into their prices. If someone is caught they can be tresspassed from the store and or have shoplifting charges pressed.

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  88. @Anonymouse
    This is completely false. I watch the local news every night waiting for the national news. The local stations do pretty good journalism about crashes, crimes, the City Council and what is happening in Manchaca the worst of the bad neighborhoods. The city council, very liberal, has no sway on police practice; Austin has a city manager. Other indices: twice on a city bus I saw a black teenager skip paying the fare, acting out (or not acting) being a nut case. The black lady driver wisely chose not to make an issue of it by calling the cops (and pissing everybody off while we waited). The other time was also a black lady driver who did not challenge a black teenager who waltzed past where you pay. Rare sights indeed. Austin has a very low murder rate, about 30 a year. However, property thefts are quite high because so many people live large in nice houses. As far as public dope smoking, you never see it unless you go down the alley. The feds are constantly busting up a serious gang presence in Manchaca and those parts. Cops wouldn't be interesting in busting folks for personal use--that's been the case for decades. You have to go far into what is left of the east Austin ghetto (it's been gentrified like you wouldn't believe) to find quicky-marts with plexiglass protected cashiers. Austin is riding an incredible tide of prosperity with a crop of skyscrapers going up in downtown like you wouldn't believe.

    You have to go far into what is left of the east Austin ghetto (it’s been gentrified like you wouldn’t believe) to find quicky-marts with plexiglass protected cashiers.

    Does the City of Austin extend all the way out to the Pickle Parkway? I saw some slums just to the west of the toll road last time I drove it — is that part of the “east Austin ghetto” you’re talking about?

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  89. Miro23 says:
    @Hannah Katz
    But the biggest crime in this area will be for shop keepers to keep an eye on shoplifters, as that is another disparate impact crime. Maybe we can jail shopkeepers and their employees for not giving proper respect to shoplifters.

    But the biggest crime in this area will be for shop keepers to keep an eye on shoplifters, as that is another disparate impact crime. Maybe we can jail shopkeepers and their employees for not giving proper respect to shoplifters.

    This makes it sound like Congressional Special Interests are high class shoplifters. Call them out or don’t give them proper respect and you’re in trouble.

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  91. @ben tillman

    I recall hearing in the last year or so that my home town of Minneapolis was going to stop citing people for pissing in public…disparate impact, don’t you know…
     
    I presume, then, that they'll be repealing the state income tax any day now.

    I presume, then, that they’ll be repealing the state income tax any day now.

    Wait, the income tax disproportionally impacts blacks and Indians…?

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  92. Austin is very popular with affluent White liberals, therefor it’s rapidly gentrifying. See the Austin episodes of This Old House https://www.thisoldhouse.com/tags/austin As the city becomes less affordable a certain amount of the undesirables get pushed away. This allows these smoke screen liberals to create virtue signaling type laws and feel really really good about themselves but not worry to much as Blacks no longer live there.

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  93. sayless says:
    @istevefan

    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their ‘allies’ on the left.
     
    So true. But blacks and latins seem to be ignorant of this. One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them. But for the most part they do not take it as an insult.

    In addition to this news blurb about Austin, here are a couple examples off the top of my head that imply blacks/latins or NAMs (Non Asian Minorities) are somewhat deficient:

    1) Schools have to tone down discipline lest too many NAMs get put into the school-to-prison pipeline.

    2) Blacks should be upset at the GOP for not allowing the restoration of voting rights for felons.

    Even black intellectuals, including the leading intellectual in America Ta-Nehisi Coates, seem to have difficulty in perceiving the insult. From an archived Sailer post:

    … “Ta-Nehisi is amazing in the way he thinks out loud and invites people in,” says James Bennet, the Atlantic’s editor in chief. “He’s carrying out his extraordinary intellectual development in public. He’s very direct about what he doesn’t know.”

    Once, Bennet recalls, Coates was engaged in a gun control debate on the Atlantic’s Web site with Jeffrey Goldberg, a well-known colleague at the magazine. Goldberg referred to the philosopher and theologian Saint Augustine. Coates confessed that he didn’t know who Saint Augustine was, then charged ahead with the debate.

    “I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!” Bennet says.

     

    With regard to that anecdote about Coates, St Augustine and Goldberg, related by Bennet:

    Sounds as if Bennet is becoming a bit hysterical over having this moron on staff.

    “He’s carrying out his extraordinary intellectual development in public.”

    To the embarrassment of everyone nearby. How much longer will they keep this up? Will The Atlantic provide remediation for their dimwit hires in the future?

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  94. Hibernian says:
    @Sunbeam
    Geez I wonder if they've thought this through at all.

    What happens if Dollar General and Walmart pull out of that town? Although if you think about it upscale businesses would still have the benefit of protection for their products - mostly.

    How can this possibly not result in a lawsuit by the owner of a gas station who had someone just grab a case of beer from the cooler and run out, with no investigation of the crime even.

    Whereas grabbing a $1000 gold chain from a jewelry store will still get you prosecuted?

    But what do these Austin guys do if businesses for downscale people just decide to move or shut their doors? Or is that the plan somehow?

    I think there’s a legal doctrine that the police don’t have a legally enforceable duty to enforce the law.

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  95. @Tom Wilkes
    One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them. But for the most part they do not take it as an insult.

    When the people insulting you are working to benefit you at the expense of your racial enemies, it's hard to get worked about any insult.

    As for St. Augustine, if you're not Catholic, why on earth would you know about him, except if you could perhaps use his name or something he wrote as a weapon, like (((Goldberg))) did?

    As for St. Augustine, if you’re not Catholic, why on earth would you know about him, except if you could perhaps use his name or something he wrote as a weapon, like (((Goldberg))) did?

    St Augustine was one of the cornerstone thinkers in the Western tradition. His theological insights, especially on the nature of God’s grace, form the foundation of much of protestantism, especially Calvinism.

    His Confessions was essentially the first autobiography, and has had ongoing influence in literature and philosophy.

    In other words, his influence extends far beyond Roman Catholicism. He was a giant of the West whose name anyone who claims to be a writer (like TN Coates) should recognize.

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    The only reason you place so much importance St. Augustine is because he plays an important role in your religious tradition.

    Ta Naheisi Coates is an atheist who was raised by a former Black Panther who had his own black-themed publishing house. Coates grew up attending black public schools then Howard University. He has earned millions complaining about being a black man in America. To think that he is unable to put pen to paper and call himself a writer because he does not know about St. Augustine shows a high level of cluelessness and insularity on your part.
    , @MBlanc46
    Absolutely. You’re not a fully educated Westerner if you don’t know who Augustine is.
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  96. @Neuday
    I somehow don't think the posterity of this nation's founders has anything to learn from a muslim, much less a homosexual muslim. You'd think Bezos would know his customers better. Must be some hidden agenda.

    There must be a hidden agenda in your post — it doesn’t make a bit of sense. The “posterity of this nation’s founders” is not the target audience of the Los Angeles Times.

    Jeff Bezos does not own the LA Times; he owns The Washington Post. The LA Times is owned by Patrick Soon-Shiong, a South African-American billionaire of Chinese descent.

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  97. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Triumph104
    Based on the stories that he has written and his speech pattern, I would guess that Jaweed Kaleem is of the homosexual persuasion. Couple that with being raised in a Muslim family (no mention that he is Muslim), then he is just about qualified to write about anything. The black reporter that he replaced at the LA Times, Dexter Thomas, is working on a PhD at Cornell in East Asian Studies. Thomas went on to work at Vice.

    https://vimeo.com/129365860

    A graduate of Emerson College, Kaleem grew up in a Muslim family in Washington, D.C., and speaks Hindi/Urdu and Punjabi. He was a 2014 Senior Fellow at the East-West Center and 2013 fellow at the International Center for Journalists.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/readers-rep/la-rr-jaweed-kaleem-race-justice-20160321-story.html
     

    Kaleem attended West Springfield High School in Springfield, VA.

    South-West Asians (and sometimes East Asians) have speaking patterns and mannerisms that can appear effeminate to us because to them it’s a class marker. The Turkish equivalent of chivalry dictated hitting an opponent with an open hand, for example.
    But yeah that guy’s gay.

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  98. J.Ross says: • Website
    @julius caesar
    Arab/Indian/Korean shopkeeping class will vote for Democrats, no matter what. Their primary goal is breaking the power of white majority. That said, they may not like the result.

    The great question for Asians (in the US, possibly the West) in the 21st century will be: Is it better to be a junior partner in the White party or in the Black party?

    I feel the rational answer will be the latter, but driven by emotions like resentment, even ambition, they will choose the former.

    This is a very broad informal observation, but I geel like the central problem is that the government is generally not real to many Asians. They are okay with voting for a bad program because they see it as an empty ritual or cost-free chore. Even communists in China take for granted that their house is their house and they will be left alone to run it as they see fit. They are always caught off guard by state intrusion, and they have a deeply implanted sense that there’s no point in worrying about the government because it will do whatever it wants anyway. Then there is the example of Chinese in Malaysia trying to bribe anti-Chinese rioters, who are happy to pocket the bribe and then attack anyway.
    What I mean is if you were to ask a person from any of these groups if they see their kid being persuaded in the future not to have kids as a result of their voting patterns now, whatever ethnicity you chose would just stare at you, inscrutably. Whatever happens outside the household, surely they will be able to fix it inside the house. The idea that the house itself is the target is not widespread.
    There’s a tiny group of Asian Americans who would make George Washington proud, they usually have in common that they have had bad run-ins with the State and comprehended that it doesn’t have to be this way.

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  99. @The Last Real Calvinist

    As for St. Augustine, if you’re not Catholic, why on earth would you know about him, except if you could perhaps use his name or something he wrote as a weapon, like (((Goldberg))) did?

     

    St Augustine was one of the cornerstone thinkers in the Western tradition. His theological insights, especially on the nature of God's grace, form the foundation of much of protestantism, especially Calvinism.

    His Confessions was essentially the first autobiography, and has had ongoing influence in literature and philosophy.

    In other words, his influence extends far beyond Roman Catholicism. He was a giant of the West whose name anyone who claims to be a writer (like TN Coates) should recognize.

    The only reason you place so much importance St. Augustine is because he plays an important role in your religious tradition.

    Ta Naheisi Coates is an atheist who was raised by a former Black Panther who had his own black-themed publishing house. Coates grew up attending black public schools then Howard University. He has earned millions complaining about being a black man in America. To think that he is unable to put pen to paper and call himself a writer because he does not know about St. Augustine shows a high level of cluelessness and insularity on your part.

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    Jews like Ayn Rand and Bob Dylan knew of Augustine, but then again, even the least philo-"Semitic" {sic} authors I can think of-perhaps William Pierce?-would be the first to tell you that Jews are generally a lot smarter than Negroes. Even at that, I would not expect to ever find one black preacher ordained in any established Black church who couldn't tell me something about Augustine.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9shcE0VYeN4
    , @Elf Himself
    Hey, this is America. Mr. Coates can make a living doing whatever he can get people to pay him to do. What he *can't* do is call himself "educated," much less an "intellectual," if he doesn't know who St. Augustine is.
    , @MBlanc46
    I’m an atheist and have been since my teens in the early 1960s. I know who Augustine is and have done since I was an undergrad. Centuries passed between the time of Augustine and the emergence of the Roman Catholic Church. It appears that your ignorance of Augustine is exceeded by your ignorance of the history of Christianity.
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  100. @EdwardM
    This is an interesting demographic niche. How do they vote?

    Conservative, if not reactionary. Think about the aristocratic hacienda owner that was a staple in Westerns and you have a good idea of the attitudes and culture of the Tejano. You’re talking about people who have land deeds from New Spain in some cases.

    There is a very strong sentiment that goes “stay on your side of the river” (the Rio Grande) when it comes to illegals, or more recent arrivals.

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    That sounds like the attitude of established American Jewry to the mass influx of ostjuden in the late 19th century.
    , @Gringo
    Conservative, if not reactionary. Think about the aristocratic hacienda owner that was a staple in Westerns and you have a good idea of the attitudes and culture of the Tejano...There is a very strong sentiment that goes “stay on your side of the river” (the Rio Grande) when it comes to illegals, or more recent arrivals.

    A Tejano neighbor of mine got his BA from Columbia- the one in New York City, not the country :) . He did not at all like the agnostic/atheist "progressive" tone of Columbia. Though his economic level is not that of a hacienda owner.

    In doing some genealogy research, he found out that one of his ancestors from Northern Mexico was a Converso. When his brother was stationed in Italy with the US Navy, an Italian of the Jewish faith told him it was common knowledge that his Spanish surname was Jewish.
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  101. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Triumph104
    The only reason you place so much importance St. Augustine is because he plays an important role in your religious tradition.

    Ta Naheisi Coates is an atheist who was raised by a former Black Panther who had his own black-themed publishing house. Coates grew up attending black public schools then Howard University. He has earned millions complaining about being a black man in America. To think that he is unable to put pen to paper and call himself a writer because he does not know about St. Augustine shows a high level of cluelessness and insularity on your part.

    Jews like Ayn Rand and Bob Dylan knew of Augustine, but then again, even the least philo-”Semitic” {sic} authors I can think of-perhaps William Pierce?-would be the first to tell you that Jews are generally a lot smarter than Negroes. Even at that, I would not expect to ever find one black preacher ordained in any established Black church who couldn’t tell me something about Augustine.

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  102. nebulafox says:
    @Paleo Liberal
    The sad thing is, there really are some very intelligent black writers out there, just not as fashionable as Coates.

    Try reading some of Adolph Reed, Jr's stuff some time. The guy is brilliant, left wing, but completely politically incorrect when he feels like it. Adolph Jr got a LOT of flack for first turning against the Clintons when Bill C was president, then endorsing Hillary over Obama in 2008, even though Obama is black. Turns out Adolph Jr., knew Obama when Obama was a Chicago community organizer, and thought Obama was more dishonest than Hillary Clinton. And he despised the Clintons.

    But, Adolph Jr. hates identity politics, while Coates thrives in that.

    Here is what Adolph Reed Jr had to say about Coates:

    Coates makes this stuff up as he goes along: by his own account, he read Baldwin and wanted to write like Baldwin and his editor would check him and say “Look, you’re writing these passages which don’t mean anything whatsoever” since he was so focussed on wanting to write like Baldwin absent having anything in particular to say.
     

    Yeah, well, a friend, whom I won’t out, observed to me a while ago that one of the things that really irks him (and he’s a professor) about Coates is the way that white liberals gush over him and my informant said that it reminds him of the way that upper middle class liberals fawn over the maid’s son who has gone to college and “made something of himself”.
     
    https://johnhalle.com/outragesandinterludes/adolph-reed-on-sanders-coates-and-reparations/

    (Full disclosure, Adolph Sr was a close family friend in his later years. Adolph Sr. hated the segregationists, and he hated the black nationalists even more. )

    All racial identitarians have in common the basic fetishization of mediocrity.

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  103. bro3886 says:
    @International Jew

    Saint Augustine. Coates confessed that he didn’t know who Saint Augustine was, then charged ahead with the debate.

    “I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!” Bennet says.
     

    That means Coates is so ignorant he doesn't even know St A is considered a major figure.

    I couldn't tell you a thing about St A either. Well, I know he lived in North Africa and lived through the collapse of Rome's empire there, but I couldn't tell you anything he said. But I know he was big. Same way I "know" about Kant, Schelling, Fichte etc https://youtu.be/iOk6HB609po

    Maybe Coates should try his hand at completing the system of German idealism...

    He’s black, why the hell should he know about St. Augustine? It’s only cowardly, brain-dead white conservatives who think, actually they just pretend to think, that Muh Constitution, and American magic dirt will turn third-worlders into first-worlders and Americans.

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    Ta-Nehisi Coates was raised in an Afrocentrist atmosphere, so I'm kind of surprised that he hadn't heard of St. Augustine, a native of the continent of Africa.
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  104. artichoke says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Like it or not, states, counties, and cities have no standing regarding any federal law. Arizona found that out and so will California and other places. It is case law at the highest level, the Supreme Court of the U.S.

    Follow and enforce the law. Do not obstruct justice, which is a federal crime.

    This law is getting the kind of blowback that can finally turn Texas into a blue state. But, it's not only that law; its combination with current circumstances about immigrant family separations only exacerbate the blowback. Trump wasn't paying attention to the counterproductive effects of his arrogance. He seems to be noticing how the GOP isn't his most fervent support either.

    What law are you talking about?

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  105. @Triumph104
    The only reason you place so much importance St. Augustine is because he plays an important role in your religious tradition.

    Ta Naheisi Coates is an atheist who was raised by a former Black Panther who had his own black-themed publishing house. Coates grew up attending black public schools then Howard University. He has earned millions complaining about being a black man in America. To think that he is unable to put pen to paper and call himself a writer because he does not know about St. Augustine shows a high level of cluelessness and insularity on your part.

    Hey, this is America. Mr. Coates can make a living doing whatever he can get people to pay him to do. What he *can’t* do is call himself “educated,” much less an “intellectual,” if he doesn’t know who St. Augustine is.

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  106. @bro3886
    He's black, why the hell should he know about St. Augustine? It's only cowardly, brain-dead white conservatives who think, actually they just pretend to think, that Muh Constitution, and American magic dirt will turn third-worlders into first-worlders and Americans.

    Ta-Nehisi Coates was raised in an Afrocentrist atmosphere, so I’m kind of surprised that he hadn’t heard of St. Augustine, a native of the continent of Africa.

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  107. @Glaivester
    Actually, I would suspect that bookstores don't have to worry too much about shoplifting, except in the porn section.

    Actually, I would suspect that bookstores don’t have to worry too much about shoplifting, except in the porn section.

    Ha! You’ve never lived in a college town, have you? Petty crime by disgruntled wannabe academics is rife. They have the brains to rationalize it, too.

    Also, there is a problem with Little Free Libraries in marginal neighborhoods being emptied, and the contents taken to places like Half Price Books. The stewards have taken to stamping the inside cover and persuading the bookdealers not to purchase those.

    This is OK for common stuff like Dr Seuss and Danielle Steel, but not with rare items that need to be back in the active market. Copies of Rosey Grier’s “Needlepoint for Men” are going for over $100, and a book thief would be doing us a favor by taking it out of the LFL, which is a terribly inefficient conduit for it to be in.

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  108. @Arclight
    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their 'allies' on the left. Most law and order people on the right are exasperated and ask 'why can't they be more like us?' whereas on the left the concept is 'we don't like the end result of punishing people who commit a lot of crime, so let's just not do it and pretend this problem doesn't exist.'

    Same in education with affirmative action - they know full well their favorite pet people cannot compete at a level commensurate with their share of the population, so the answer is to pretend any yardstick that shows them coming up short is illegitimate and we'll just decree that they are just like everyone else.

    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their ‘allies’ on the left.

    Ah, yes, soft bigotry.

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  109. MBlanc46 says:
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    As for St. Augustine, if you’re not Catholic, why on earth would you know about him, except if you could perhaps use his name or something he wrote as a weapon, like (((Goldberg))) did?

     

    St Augustine was one of the cornerstone thinkers in the Western tradition. His theological insights, especially on the nature of God's grace, form the foundation of much of protestantism, especially Calvinism.

    His Confessions was essentially the first autobiography, and has had ongoing influence in literature and philosophy.

    In other words, his influence extends far beyond Roman Catholicism. He was a giant of the West whose name anyone who claims to be a writer (like TN Coates) should recognize.

    Absolutely. You’re not a fully educated Westerner if you don’t know who Augustine is.

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  110. MBlanc46 says:
    @Triumph104
    The only reason you place so much importance St. Augustine is because he plays an important role in your religious tradition.

    Ta Naheisi Coates is an atheist who was raised by a former Black Panther who had his own black-themed publishing house. Coates grew up attending black public schools then Howard University. He has earned millions complaining about being a black man in America. To think that he is unable to put pen to paper and call himself a writer because he does not know about St. Augustine shows a high level of cluelessness and insularity on your part.

    I’m an atheist and have been since my teens in the early 1960s. I know who Augustine is and have done since I was an undergrad. Centuries passed between the time of Augustine and the emergence of the Roman Catholic Church. It appears that your ignorance of Augustine is exceeded by your ignorance of the history of Christianity.

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  111. Dissident says:
    @Tiny Duck
    Like it or not, states, counties, and cities have no standing regarding any federal law. Arizona found that out and so will California and other places. It is case law at the highest level, the Supreme Court of the U.S.

    Follow and enforce the law. Do not obstruct justice, which is a federal crime.

    This law is getting the kind of blowback that can finally turn Texas into a blue state. But, it's not only that law; its combination with current circumstances about immigrant family separations only exacerbate the blowback. Trump wasn't paying attention to the counterproductive effects of his arrogance. He seems to be noticing how the GOP isn't his most fervent support either.

    Does no one else find this comment suspiciously uncharacteristic for Tiny Duck?

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  112. Anonymous[170] • Disclaimer says:
    @sabril
    Pretty much, but items with significant resale value (e.g. cigarettes) are normally kept in places where you can't just casually pick them up and walk out of the store without paying.

    Where I work (NYC) a lot of stores have policies that they won't challenge shoplifters and in fact employees can and do get fired for doing so. I guess it makes sense if your marginal profits are fat enough. So for example, suppose you are selling pieces of women's clothing for $100 which cost you $10 from some sweatshop in China; that your main expenses are rent and employee wages which you have to pay regardless of your sales volume. In such a case, you don't lose much if shoplifters steal even 10 or 20 pieces of clothing a week. After all, your rent is $20,000 per month and your wage expense is another $15,000. Losing an additional $1000 per month due to shrinkage is pissing in the ocean. Especially when you consider the cost of lawsuits and worker's compensation claims which might arise from confronting shoplifters.

    So why don't stores like this get cleaned out by aggressive "youths"? Based on their locations and the goods they are selling, they don't hold much appeal. You can bet that stores which sell sporting goods are more aggressive about defending their wares.

    Often the biggest thieves of stock aren’t shoplifters but the employees themselves…

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  113. Anonymous[170] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Conservative, if not reactionary. Think about the aristocratic hacienda owner that was a staple in Westerns and you have a good idea of the attitudes and culture of the Tejano. You're talking about people who have land deeds from New Spain in some cases.

    There is a very strong sentiment that goes "stay on your side of the river" (the Rio Grande) when it comes to illegals, or more recent arrivals.

    That sounds like the attitude of established American Jewry to the mass influx of ostjuden in the late 19th century.

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  114. @istevefan

    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their ‘allies’ on the left.
     
    So true. But blacks and latins seem to be ignorant of this. One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them. But for the most part they do not take it as an insult.

    In addition to this news blurb about Austin, here are a couple examples off the top of my head that imply blacks/latins or NAMs (Non Asian Minorities) are somewhat deficient:

    1) Schools have to tone down discipline lest too many NAMs get put into the school-to-prison pipeline.

    2) Blacks should be upset at the GOP for not allowing the restoration of voting rights for felons.

    Even black intellectuals, including the leading intellectual in America Ta-Nehisi Coates, seem to have difficulty in perceiving the insult. From an archived Sailer post:

    … “Ta-Nehisi is amazing in the way he thinks out loud and invites people in,” says James Bennet, the Atlantic’s editor in chief. “He’s carrying out his extraordinary intellectual development in public. He’s very direct about what he doesn’t know.”

    Once, Bennet recalls, Coates was engaged in a gun control debate on the Atlantic’s Web site with Jeffrey Goldberg, a well-known colleague at the magazine. Goldberg referred to the philosopher and theologian Saint Augustine. Coates confessed that he didn’t know who Saint Augustine was, then charged ahead with the debate.

    “I can’t think of another writer who wouldn’t have Googled it!” Bennet says.

     

    No one has lower expectations for the personal behavior of blacks and latinos than their ‘allies’ on the left.

    So true. But blacks and latins seem to be ignorant of this. One would think they would be upset that their allies on the left automatically assume the worst about them. But for the most part they do not take it as an insult.

    It’s not that blacks have low expectations for blacks. It’s that they think whites behave the same as blacks and get away with it.

    White liberals also think that white Republicans are getting away with crimes for which blacks are disproportionately penalized.

    White Republicans project their law and order attitude onto blacks and assume they are just not living up to their potential.

    Blacks and white liberals project black lawlessness onto whites and assume that whites get away with it due to racism (or today’s buzzword “white privilege”).

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  115. Gringo says:
    @Jack Hanson
    Conservative, if not reactionary. Think about the aristocratic hacienda owner that was a staple in Westerns and you have a good idea of the attitudes and culture of the Tejano. You're talking about people who have land deeds from New Spain in some cases.

    There is a very strong sentiment that goes "stay on your side of the river" (the Rio Grande) when it comes to illegals, or more recent arrivals.

    Conservative, if not reactionary. Think about the aristocratic hacienda owner that was a staple in Westerns and you have a good idea of the attitudes and culture of the Tejano…There is a very strong sentiment that goes “stay on your side of the river” (the Rio Grande) when it comes to illegals, or more recent arrivals.

    A Tejano neighbor of mine got his BA from Columbia- the one in New York City, not the country :) . He did not at all like the agnostic/atheist “progressive” tone of Columbia. Though his economic level is not that of a hacienda owner.

    In doing some genealogy research, he found out that one of his ancestors from Northern Mexico was a Converso. When his brother was stationed in Italy with the US Navy, an Italian of the Jewish faith told him it was common knowledge that his Spanish surname was Jewish.

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