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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUTnu1MaeX0

It’s pretty funny how Sacha Baron Cohen visibly realizes the second time that Trump makes a smarter business suggestion (“Music” and then “Drip-proof ice cream”) that Ali G has met his match.

And then there’s Andy Rooney, especially from 2:28 onward:

 
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  1. Anyone know how these things work?

    I suspect most, if not all of the celebs are in on the gag. And then, I’d guess, they get to choose how they want to react so long as it’s remotely realistic?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    My impression is that Baron Cohen had to leave England for America to get more celebrities whose publicists hadn't heard of him yet. Then he had to retire Ali G, his best character, because everybody had heard of him.

    A keep in mind that a lot of the "celebrities" weren't exactly George Clooney on the celebritiometer. I remember Ali G interviewing an obscure Attorney General from the Ford Administration, a nice, scholarly man, probably a law school professor emeritus by this point. The interview started off like a Brian Lamb interview on CSPAN's "Booknotes:"

    Q. "What is "Legal?"

    A. "Uh ... An excellent question ... in the English common law tradition, "legal" connotes ..."

    Q. "What is 'Barely Legal?'"

    Perhaps Trump's people figured it out, however? Or maybe Trump just doesn't suffer fools gladly?

    , @DPG
    The producers seem to go to great lengths to make it seem legitimate:

    http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2004/09/respek.html

    I remember reading another article where they would mention the fact that Baron Cohen is a Cambridge grad when booking the guests to add legitimacy.

    It looks to me like Trump wasn't in on the joke, he simply doesn't suffer fools gladly.
  2. The amazing thing is that his transparently fake grammar mistakes fool Chomsky in another interview.

  3. @anon
    Anyone know how these things work?

    I suspect most, if not all of the celebs are in on the gag. And then, I'd guess, they get to choose how they want to react so long as it's remotely realistic?

    My impression is that Baron Cohen had to leave England for America to get more celebrities whose publicists hadn’t heard of him yet. Then he had to retire Ali G, his best character, because everybody had heard of him.

    A keep in mind that a lot of the “celebrities” weren’t exactly George Clooney on the celebritiometer. I remember Ali G interviewing an obscure Attorney General from the Ford Administration, a nice, scholarly man, probably a law school professor emeritus by this point. The interview started off like a Brian Lamb interview on CSPAN’s “Booknotes:”

    Q. “What is “Legal?”

    A. “Uh … An excellent question … in the English common law tradition, “legal” connotes …”

    Q. “What is ‘Barely Legal?’”

    Perhaps Trump’s people figured it out, however? Or maybe Trump just doesn’t suffer fools gladly?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Pat Buchanan is similar, though obviously much more famous and prominent than that AG. He was interviewed by Ali G, and he's the type that would have never heard of someone like Ali G before being interviewed by him. He's very good natured and comfortable during the interview. He's a good sport:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwEd_tcKBfU
    , @Hhsiii
    I remember he did "I is 'ere wit' me main man, General Brent Scowcroft, check it..." He also interviewed Pat Buchanan. Or as he pronounced it, "Boocannon"

    He more often got polite, play along responses in England. They were far more likely to think he was a legit rep of ethnic yout' culture. Or to play along. I seem to recall Scowcroft and Buchanan came off amiably.

    Btw, isn't drip proof ice cream the concept behind dipping dots?

    , @McFly
    Perhaps Trump’s people figured it out, however? Or maybe Trump just doesn’t suffer fools gladly?

    Trump actually is the rare Ivy Leaguer with street-smarts and the ability to read people.
    , @Anonymous

    Perhaps Trump’s people figured it out, however? Or maybe Trump just doesn’t suffer fools gladly?

     

    I met Trump six years ago and spent a half-hour with him and his people/sons (non-business related). My experience was kind of like Steve Sailer's experience meeting Michael Milken. Except Trump was very nice with overpowering charisma. Trump has a rare combo of extreme confidence, extreme intelligence, and extreme perceptiveness. Which comes across as no bullshit. Every time I've tried to imitate his style in my job (polite, no-BS, succinct language) I can see people react very positively and deferentially. But then I revert to my very friendly and unassuming self and they run all over me.

    I love Trump's take on Bill Cosby:


    “…I was never a fan. His humor was always, like, slow and stupid to me. I never saw it. And then he's obviously got this stuff. What amazes me is he was so quiet and then you see these depositions. What was he doing? Was he drunk? You see he admitted all this stuff on top of everything else. I think he's weird. And I never found his humor good at all. Just sit in a chair, talk very slowly? And I say to myself, "What's this all about?"
     
    , @Doug
    In that episode, Ali G pitched the ice cream idea to a number of of Wall Street-type investors. Overall the businessmen (and women), were much less indulgent of his idiocy than the typical politician or public figure that he interviews. One of the investors even told him "this may be the worst idea I've ever heard."
    , @SFG
    Apparently he had a fake interviewing company and a serious interviewer would come on as a warm-up.

    Also, if you look around for the old English series you can find SBC interviewing lefties such as Naomi Wolf. I remember at one point interviewing a feminist he confused feminism with lesbianism...'sometimes girls try a little feminism, then they go back to their boyfriends'. The interviewer then hastened to add that there was *no connection at all* between feminism and lesbianism. Or the bit you turned me onto where he's shown pictures of miners covered in coal dust and he asks why it's always the black man in the mines.

    I think he started out making fun of anyone he could get, then as time went on all the famous people had HBO and had heard of him, so he had to do Borat and go after rural Americans who hadn't heard of him yet--that's why Borat is so heavily red-state-weighted. I suspect a lot of the rattling on about 'exposing America's racism' was a way to get away with making racist jokes. After all, he can freely pretend to be anti-Semitic because, well, he's Jewish.

    The guy's a shock comedian, like Howard Stern.

  4. Trump has an incredibly strong frame, and total self-confidence.

    No fake laughs, no going along with some clownish foolishness in order to be polite.

    You can’t help but love the guy; and even if you don’t, you’ll certainly respect him.

    • Replies: @James Kabala
    I posted this article in an earlier thread to no response, but I think it is a rare worthwhile article from the notorious Vox: http://www.vox.com/2015/8/14/9151251/donald-trump-apprentice-president

    However, the video above makes it clear that the Trump persona was pretty much in place even before The Apprentice.
    , @Dave Pinsen
    What's amazing to me is how much the media have underestimated Trump, despite how much experience they have had with him over the last few decades. Trump has a deadly combo compared to most traditional pols: He's got the successful businessman competence, but he's also got more TV experience than any of them.

    Most candidates play a role for the campaign -- say, a guy who wants to "build the dang fence". Trump's been playing the same role for 30+ years, so it's easier for him to stay in character. I don't know what he was like originally -- I'm guessing, a somewhat toned-down version of what he is now -- but the media's been throwing labels at Trump for years, and he puts them on, proudly. So he's impervious to them, in a way most pols are not

    Nice quote in the WaPo from former NJ governor Tom Kean:


    “No one has figured out how to handle Trump,” said former New Jersey governor Tom Kean Sr. (R). “Everyone underestimated him terribly from Day One. But as someone who knows him and knew his father — the whole family — I can assure you, that was a mistake.”
     
  5. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Great Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Steve

    Are you aware that former vdare.com commenter Paul Craig Roberts stated today on both infowars.com and Unz Review that the gang rape of Swedish,Norwegian, and English School Girls by Young Pakistani Muslim Male Beasts is justified and deserved?..Holy Shit!!!

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    Nice try. Complete with mock outrage.
    , @Ozymandias
    "Paul Craig Roberts stated today..."

    That dude has lost it. I tried reading a few of his articles, but it's like having a conversation with a delusional hobo who's screaming in your face and spraying spit everywhere.
    , @Jim
    Nowhere in the article on unz review does he say any such thing. He does refer to US destabilization of the Middle East as contributing to the flow of refugees. That's true although immigration into the West is of course also driven by economic factors independent of US intervention. But Robert's references to US destabilization of the Middle East as contributing to refugee flow is prety much along the same lines as Steve's "Invade the world, invite the world" theme.
  6. “Racist, not racialist.”

  7. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    My impression is that Baron Cohen had to leave England for America to get more celebrities whose publicists hadn't heard of him yet. Then he had to retire Ali G, his best character, because everybody had heard of him.

    A keep in mind that a lot of the "celebrities" weren't exactly George Clooney on the celebritiometer. I remember Ali G interviewing an obscure Attorney General from the Ford Administration, a nice, scholarly man, probably a law school professor emeritus by this point. The interview started off like a Brian Lamb interview on CSPAN's "Booknotes:"

    Q. "What is "Legal?"

    A. "Uh ... An excellent question ... in the English common law tradition, "legal" connotes ..."

    Q. "What is 'Barely Legal?'"

    Perhaps Trump's people figured it out, however? Or maybe Trump just doesn't suffer fools gladly?

    Pat Buchanan is similar, though obviously much more famous and prominent than that AG. He was interviewed by Ali G, and he’s the type that would have never heard of someone like Ali G before being interviewed by him. He’s very good natured and comfortable during the interview. He’s a good sport:

    • Replies: @Pat Casey
    Yep. Buchanan is right there with Ben Franklin for best americans in politics to not make it Prez. Tangentially I'm reminded of John Zmirak (whatever happened to him?) referring to wistfully watching every year Pat's speech at the 92 Convention, and now I do too. Which also reminds me of Tom Piatak's full blown frontal assault against VD Hanson's negative review of Pat's book The Unnecessary War. And come to think of it, that's when Zmirak really nixed his chance at mainstreamdom, as I seem to recall him burning his bridges with Scott McConnell and AmConMag over their review of it. anyways...
  8. @Steve Sailer
    My impression is that Baron Cohen had to leave England for America to get more celebrities whose publicists hadn't heard of him yet. Then he had to retire Ali G, his best character, because everybody had heard of him.

    A keep in mind that a lot of the "celebrities" weren't exactly George Clooney on the celebritiometer. I remember Ali G interviewing an obscure Attorney General from the Ford Administration, a nice, scholarly man, probably a law school professor emeritus by this point. The interview started off like a Brian Lamb interview on CSPAN's "Booknotes:"

    Q. "What is "Legal?"

    A. "Uh ... An excellent question ... in the English common law tradition, "legal" connotes ..."

    Q. "What is 'Barely Legal?'"

    Perhaps Trump's people figured it out, however? Or maybe Trump just doesn't suffer fools gladly?

    I remember he did “I is ‘ere wit’ me main man, General Brent Scowcroft, check it…” He also interviewed Pat Buchanan. Or as he pronounced it, “Boocannon”

    He more often got polite, play along responses in England. They were far more likely to think he was a legit rep of ethnic yout’ culture. Or to play along. I seem to recall Scowcroft and Buchanan came off amiably.

    Btw, isn’t drip proof ice cream the concept behind dipping dots?

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    From the Onion, in the future, everyone eats Dippin' Dots:

    http://www.theonion.com/article/time-traveler-everyone-in-the-future-eats-dippin-d-2415
  9. @Hhsiii
    I remember he did "I is 'ere wit' me main man, General Brent Scowcroft, check it..." He also interviewed Pat Buchanan. Or as he pronounced it, "Boocannon"

    He more often got polite, play along responses in England. They were far more likely to think he was a legit rep of ethnic yout' culture. Or to play along. I seem to recall Scowcroft and Buchanan came off amiably.

    Btw, isn't drip proof ice cream the concept behind dipping dots?

    From the Onion, in the future, everyone eats Dippin’ Dots:

    http://www.theonion.com/article/time-traveler-everyone-in-the-future-eats-dippin-d-2415

  10. @Somebody
    Trump has an incredibly strong frame, and total self-confidence.

    No fake laughs, no going along with some clownish foolishness in order to be polite.

    You can't help but love the guy; and even if you don't, you'll certainly respect him.

    I posted this article in an earlier thread to no response, but I think it is a rare worthwhile article from the notorious Vox: http://www.vox.com/2015/8/14/9151251/donald-trump-apprentice-president

    However, the video above makes it clear that the Trump persona was pretty much in place even before The Apprentice.

    • Replies: @Somebody
    Oh yeah, it was in place long before that.

    Btw, the term 'persona' has a rather negative connotation, I find; it suggests that somebody is acting and isn't authentic. That's definitely not the case with Trump. With him it's really 'what you see is what you get' - and he's largely born like that, it wasn't learned through reality TV.

    Rather than 'persona', in his case I'd simply speak of personality.

  11. I remember one skit his other Borat character did in a honky-tonk bar somewhere in cow country. He sang a song about a Jew stealing his money and not giving it back. It was actually quite catchy and had a chorus about dumping the Jew down a well.

    At first the crowd (obviously somewhat drunk) were kind of shocked and didn’t do anything. However, Borat kept encouraging them to sing along and the song and especially the chorus was catchy. Eventually, the crowd was singing along and laughing with the lyrics. Later Cohen used this when he was ranting about anti-semitism.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    I guess it is still around.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo
    , @Anonymous
    There have been several public renditions of the "throw the Jew down the well" song in the history of the Borat TV sketches. Each time it is obvious he's encouraging the crowd to join, which they invariably do, with some mixture of awkwardness and enthusiasm not betraying any serious opinion about the lyrics. The movie's scene took place in country/western bar of the Sex Pistols '77-78 U.S. tour variety; once the offensive portion of the song begins the hicks are shown looking nervously at each other but do find the chorus very funny for whatever reason. Reviewing the film via just this one scene Martin Peretz declared it a "chilling" piece of documentary footage, a self-parodic reaction more comical than the Borat scene itself.
    , @Jimorbid
    I remember that scene well. The whole point of the skit was to make fun of friendly but unsophisticated white rubes. But rather than being anti-rube bigotry, that's ... anti-Semitism! Funny how that works.
  12. @War for Blair Mountain
    Steve

    Are you aware that former vdare.com commenter Paul Craig Roberts stated today on both infowars.com and Unz Review that the gang rape of Swedish,Norwegian, and English School Girls by Young Pakistani Muslim Male Beasts is justified and deserved?..Holy Shit!!!

    Nice try. Complete with mock outrage.

  13. @Steve Sailer
    My impression is that Baron Cohen had to leave England for America to get more celebrities whose publicists hadn't heard of him yet. Then he had to retire Ali G, his best character, because everybody had heard of him.

    A keep in mind that a lot of the "celebrities" weren't exactly George Clooney on the celebritiometer. I remember Ali G interviewing an obscure Attorney General from the Ford Administration, a nice, scholarly man, probably a law school professor emeritus by this point. The interview started off like a Brian Lamb interview on CSPAN's "Booknotes:"

    Q. "What is "Legal?"

    A. "Uh ... An excellent question ... in the English common law tradition, "legal" connotes ..."

    Q. "What is 'Barely Legal?'"

    Perhaps Trump's people figured it out, however? Or maybe Trump just doesn't suffer fools gladly?

    Perhaps Trump’s people figured it out, however? Or maybe Trump just doesn’t suffer fools gladly?

    Trump actually is the rare Ivy Leaguer with street-smarts and the ability to read people.

  14. @James Kabala
    I posted this article in an earlier thread to no response, but I think it is a rare worthwhile article from the notorious Vox: http://www.vox.com/2015/8/14/9151251/donald-trump-apprentice-president

    However, the video above makes it clear that the Trump persona was pretty much in place even before The Apprentice.

    Oh yeah, it was in place long before that.

    Btw, the term ‘persona’ has a rather negative connotation, I find; it suggests that somebody is acting and isn’t authentic. That’s definitely not the case with Trump. With him it’s really ‘what you see is what you get’ – and he’s largely born like that, it wasn’t learned through reality TV.

    Rather than ‘persona’, in his case I’d simply speak of personality.

    • Replies: @e
    Trump has said on many occasions when he was asked about his kids' personalities or, for that matter, about his own, that "people are largely born the way they'll be the rest of their lives."

    I loved that-- a public man who is now a politician who understands nature trumps nurture and isn't afraid to say it. He did go on to speak of how much he learned about business from his father, whom he clearly reveres. He said, "My dad was a really, really tough guy. He had always been that way and I learned a lot from him." He said it was his daughter who seems to be most like him, at least when it comes to business.

    I think he's made a conscious choice NOT to use the old "nature is stronger than nurture" but he's sending signals that he sees this as important. I am sure the progs are freaking. I have a liberal friend who freaked at that pronouncement.

  15. “However, the video above makes it clear that the Trump persona was pretty much in place even before The Apprentice.”

    I was going to respond to your earlier post and make exactly that same point. The Vox article proceeds on the faulty premise that “The Apprentice” made Donald Trump what he is today, which is putting the cart before the horse. He wasn’t exactly a totally unknown person before he landed “The Apprentice.” He got that reality show because everybody knew of Donald Trump already. He was a fully formed man when he got “The Apprentice.” I’m sure the experience with a reality TV show educated him somewhat, but he brought a lot of experience and background to that TV role, where he was essentially playing himself.

  16. @MarkinLA
    I remember one skit his other Borat character did in a honky-tonk bar somewhere in cow country. He sang a song about a Jew stealing his money and not giving it back. It was actually quite catchy and had a chorus about dumping the Jew down a well.

    At first the crowd (obviously somewhat drunk) were kind of shocked and didn't do anything. However, Borat kept encouraging them to sing along and the song and especially the chorus was catchy. Eventually, the crowd was singing along and laughing with the lyrics. Later Cohen used this when he was ranting about anti-semitism.

    I guess it is still around.

    • Replies: @landonp
    As a Tucson, AZ, native (circa 1946-1963) , I'd be shocked if a Tucsonian would know a Jew (or care) if they fell over one. They hung out in Phoenix. Hell, I didn't know what a synagogue was until we moved to L.A. Given the clientele here, I'm thinking 2009 (when this Youtube was posted) isn't much different.
    , @Anon
    ROTFL
  17. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Great Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    Am I the first to mention Iron Eyes Cody?

  18. @War for Blair Mountain
    Steve

    Are you aware that former vdare.com commenter Paul Craig Roberts stated today on both infowars.com and Unz Review that the gang rape of Swedish,Norwegian, and English School Girls by Young Pakistani Muslim Male Beasts is justified and deserved?..Holy Shit!!!

    “Paul Craig Roberts stated today…”

    That dude has lost it. I tried reading a few of his articles, but it’s like having a conversation with a delusional hobo who’s screaming in your face and spraying spit everywhere.

    • Replies: @anony-mouse
    I enjoy reading PCR along with many other (non-Steve) Unz writers.

    Its like a modern version of visiting this place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethlem_Royal_Hospital (except the residents here are all older)
  19. War for Blair Mountain [AKA "Great Battle for Blair Mountain"] says:

    And don’t forget Ghengis Khan’s great great great great great great…how many greats….grandson, actor Charles Bronson who played Mexican bandits in Hollywood Westerns….How about uterous free Jamie Lee Curtis who played Women in Hollywood Block Busters…

    • Replies: @josh
    "How about uterous free Jamie Lee Curtis "

    are you sure?
  20. @War for Blair Mountain
    Steve

    Are you aware that former vdare.com commenter Paul Craig Roberts stated today on both infowars.com and Unz Review that the gang rape of Swedish,Norwegian, and English School Girls by Young Pakistani Muslim Male Beasts is justified and deserved?..Holy Shit!!!

    Nowhere in the article on unz review does he say any such thing. He does refer to US destabilization of the Middle East as contributing to the flow of refugees. That’s true although immigration into the West is of course also driven by economic factors independent of US intervention. But Robert’s references to US destabilization of the Middle East as contributing to refugee flow is prety much along the same lines as Steve’s “Invade the world, invite the world” theme.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    "Invading, but not inviting" is a position one could take. Perhaps not the best, but maybe an improvement over our current policy. The British empire did last for a while, after all.
  21. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    My impression is that Baron Cohen had to leave England for America to get more celebrities whose publicists hadn't heard of him yet. Then he had to retire Ali G, his best character, because everybody had heard of him.

    A keep in mind that a lot of the "celebrities" weren't exactly George Clooney on the celebritiometer. I remember Ali G interviewing an obscure Attorney General from the Ford Administration, a nice, scholarly man, probably a law school professor emeritus by this point. The interview started off like a Brian Lamb interview on CSPAN's "Booknotes:"

    Q. "What is "Legal?"

    A. "Uh ... An excellent question ... in the English common law tradition, "legal" connotes ..."

    Q. "What is 'Barely Legal?'"

    Perhaps Trump's people figured it out, however? Or maybe Trump just doesn't suffer fools gladly?

    Perhaps Trump’s people figured it out, however? Or maybe Trump just doesn’t suffer fools gladly?

    I met Trump six years ago and spent a half-hour with him and his people/sons (non-business related). My experience was kind of like Steve Sailer’s experience meeting Michael Milken. Except Trump was very nice with overpowering charisma. Trump has a rare combo of extreme confidence, extreme intelligence, and extreme perceptiveness. Which comes across as no bullshit. Every time I’ve tried to imitate his style in my job (polite, no-BS, succinct language) I can see people react very positively and deferentially. But then I revert to my very friendly and unassuming self and they run all over me.

    I love Trump’s take on Bill Cosby:

    “…I was never a fan. His humor was always, like, slow and stupid to me. I never saw it. And then he’s obviously got this stuff. What amazes me is he was so quiet and then you see these depositions. What was he doing? Was he drunk? You see he admitted all this stuff on top of everything else. I think he’s weird. And I never found his humor good at all. Just sit in a chair, talk very slowly? And I say to myself, “What’s this all about?”

  22. The Trumpening.

    Walls and Balls.

  23. malcom gladwell really let himself go

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Funny thing, with makeup Rachel Dolezal looks about as dark as Malcolm Gladwell, though its hard to tell who has the better Afro.
    , @TWS
    She just needed 10,000 hours of practice to be black.
  24. Baron-Cohen shows how a white guy who wants to look plausibly black does it: short buzz cut, goatee, bright and loose fitting hip hop clothes. king wears those shiny oversized polyester looking button up shirts.

    Mentally, light skin and facial features say white, everything else codes black, and you mentally code as “slightly black” which in turn counts as much as fully black or else rayciss.

    Goatee especially is relevant as most black men can’t grow good beards, especially when they are young.

    The NY Daily News has a pic of him as a kid. His mother is pale with curly dark brown hair, he is just as pale with very light brown hair. Not only is his father white, he is probably blond or light brown haired.

    His current color photos show the “healthy” ruddy peach color of most whites, not the unhealthy looking sallow light beige of 1/8 blacks. Bob Barr has this skin color, despite his straight hair and pale blue eyes it makes him look octoroonish. That’s why he prefers the b&w photos, the paleness is plausibly part black, but not the peachy tone.

    The reason he got beat up is school is likely he is obviously white with a white brother (everyone knew in the small town) but used black slang and insisted he was black. There are a couple of them in every place where poor whites live around blacks.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    I doubt if Baron Cohen was beaten up as a kid. He came from a well-off London Jewish family and graduated from Cambridge University just like comedians John Cleese and Hugh Laurie.
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "The reason he got beat up is school is likely he is obviously white with a white brother (everyone knew in the small town) but used black slang and insisted he was black."

    From Woody Allen's Sleeper:

    "Did I happen to mention I'm mulatto?"

    "Myles, come on."

    "No, I'm serious. Didn't I tell you? My mother was black and my father was white."

    "Just stop."

    "No, I'm serious. You didn't know that about me?"


    Uh, no Woody, or Sasha,....we didn't know that about you.
    , @Percy Gryce

    Baron-Cohen shows how a white guy who wants to look plausibly black does it: short buzz cut, goatee, bright and loose fitting hip hop clothes.
     
    Don't forget the glasses. Both Ali G and Shauny K wear big black-framed glasses that no doubt draw the viewer's attention away from their more Caucasian features.
  25. (Net worth: $110 million) Sacha Baron Cohen may be worth millions….but he never made me laugh. So screw him.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    He made me laugh when, as Borat, he offered Bob Barr a piece of cheese, and then, while Barr was chewing on it, Borat told him the cheese was made from his wife's breast milk.
  26. @Lot
    Baron-Cohen shows how a white guy who wants to look plausibly black does it: short buzz cut, goatee, bright and loose fitting hip hop clothes. king wears those shiny oversized polyester looking button up shirts.

    Mentally, light skin and facial features say white, everything else codes black, and you mentally code as "slightly black" which in turn counts as much as fully black or else rayciss.

    Goatee especially is relevant as most black men can't grow good beards, especially when they are young.

    The NY Daily News has a pic of him as a kid. His mother is pale with curly dark brown hair, he is just as pale with very light brown hair. Not only is his father white, he is probably blond or light brown haired.

    His current color photos show the "healthy" ruddy peach color of most whites, not the unhealthy looking sallow light beige of 1/8 blacks. Bob Barr has this skin color, despite his straight hair and pale blue eyes it makes him look octoroonish. That's why he prefers the b&w photos, the paleness is plausibly part black, but not the peachy tone.

    The reason he got beat up is school is likely he is obviously white with a white brother (everyone knew in the small town) but used black slang and insisted he was black. There are a couple of them in every place where poor whites live around blacks.

    I doubt if Baron Cohen was beaten up as a kid. He came from a well-off London Jewish family and graduated from Cambridge University just like comedians John Cleese and Hugh Laurie.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    And he's like 6'3" and broad-shouldered.
    , @Lot
    Not Cohen, Shaun King, who likes to tell a story about a gang beat down in high school because he was black. That got fact checked too, though a couple people from his school say it happened, the school records show a fight between two boys.
  27. Check 0ut Gary Oldham from the film True Romance. In this clip he pulls off the black thing pretty well as Christian Slater’s character confronts him.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    IIRC, someone in the movie says about Oldman's character, "he thinks he's black".
  28. OT – BBC Radio were saying yesterday that Sweden and Germany were taking the lion’s share of the current wave of “asylum seekers”. Germany granted 200,000 asylum claims last year, Sweden 75,000. It’s not got that big a population. Now the Swedish Democrats are the most popular party.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/11814498/Anti-immigrant-Sweden-Democrats-now-the-biggest-party-according-to-poll.html

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24583286

    • Replies: @TWS
    Germany's talking about seizing people's homes for the invaders. Somehow I don't see it ending well.
  29. you see this in pop culture with beyonce and rihanna, you see this with eric holder, colon powell, and obama, you see this with black civil rights groups: if you want to get ahead as a minority, it helps to not look or act too much like said minority

  30. @anon
    Anyone know how these things work?

    I suspect most, if not all of the celebs are in on the gag. And then, I'd guess, they get to choose how they want to react so long as it's remotely realistic?

    The producers seem to go to great lengths to make it seem legitimate:

    http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2004/09/respek.html

    I remember reading another article where they would mention the fact that Baron Cohen is a Cambridge grad when booking the guests to add legitimacy.

    It looks to me like Trump wasn’t in on the joke, he simply doesn’t suffer fools gladly.

  31. @grey enlightenment2
    malcom gladwell really let himself go

    http://weeklygravy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/rachel_dolezal_-_savannah_guthrie_5_1920_112167023-copy-e1435005601924-1024x668.jpg

    Funny thing, with makeup Rachel Dolezal looks about as dark as Malcolm Gladwell, though its hard to tell who has the better Afro.

  32. @Lot
    Baron-Cohen shows how a white guy who wants to look plausibly black does it: short buzz cut, goatee, bright and loose fitting hip hop clothes. king wears those shiny oversized polyester looking button up shirts.

    Mentally, light skin and facial features say white, everything else codes black, and you mentally code as "slightly black" which in turn counts as much as fully black or else rayciss.

    Goatee especially is relevant as most black men can't grow good beards, especially when they are young.

    The NY Daily News has a pic of him as a kid. His mother is pale with curly dark brown hair, he is just as pale with very light brown hair. Not only is his father white, he is probably blond or light brown haired.

    His current color photos show the "healthy" ruddy peach color of most whites, not the unhealthy looking sallow light beige of 1/8 blacks. Bob Barr has this skin color, despite his straight hair and pale blue eyes it makes him look octoroonish. That's why he prefers the b&w photos, the paleness is plausibly part black, but not the peachy tone.

    The reason he got beat up is school is likely he is obviously white with a white brother (everyone knew in the small town) but used black slang and insisted he was black. There are a couple of them in every place where poor whites live around blacks.

    “The reason he got beat up is school is likely he is obviously white with a white brother (everyone knew in the small town) but used black slang and insisted he was black.”

    From Woody Allen’s Sleeper:

    “Did I happen to mention I’m mulatto?”

    “Myles, come on.”

    “No, I’m serious. Didn’t I tell you? My mother was black and my father was white.”

    “Just stop.”

    “No, I’m serious. You didn’t know that about me?”

    Uh, no Woody, or Sasha,….we didn’t know that about you.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew

    Substitute - your lies for fact
    I see right through your plastic mac
    I look all white, but my dad was black
    My fine-looking suit is really made out of sack
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYfolfduGIA
    , @Big Bill
    A wigger. That would make sense. Judging from the Daily Mail pictures of him as a cute, earnest little white boy with brown curly hair at age 9 or so, and his transformation into a brutha with cropped black hair at 16 or so, something happened, big time. Dolezal didn't transform until age 18-20 or so.

    How old was he when his transracialism hit and he realized deep down inside that he really was black?
  33. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Off-topic Steve, but I’m wondering if you’ve seen this current brouhaha over sororities (mostly Southern) making recruitment videos where the sorority sisters are acting just too white and chipper, etc. There getting attacked for racism, being too conformist to the patriarchal ideals for women, etc. Basically hitting all the SJW vs. dark enlightenment themes. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/08/18/university-alabama-criticized-racially-homogeneous-recruitment-video/31900097/

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Off-topic Steve, but I’m wondering if you’ve seen this current brouhaha over sororities (mostly Southern) making recruitment videos where the sorority sisters are acting just too white and chipper, etc. There getting attacked for racism, being too conformist to the patriarchal ideals for women, etc. Basically hitting all the SJW vs. dark enlightenment themes. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/08/18/university-alabama-criticized-racially-homogeneous-recruitment-video/31900097/
     
    What BS, these Southies are genetically pro-union Democrat. Howie Carr is on Boston's WRKO 20 hrs/week and makes Trump's immigration stance look like Ted Kennedy's. Speaking of Kennedy, Howie Carr would say Ted is celebrating his sixth year of sobriety this month.
  34. OT: The Atlantic writes an article blaming Trump for a racist attack on a homeless man.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/a-trump-inspired-hate-crime-in-boston/401906/

    • Replies: @William BadWhite
    Russell Berman...

    anyway are these attacks a bad thing or not? If they're bad, has Russell written an article condemning Obama and Holder's ceaseless race baiting?
    , @Rifleman

    OT: The Atlantic writes an article blaming Trump for a racist attack on a homeless man.
     
    Again, CLICKBAIT!!

    Plus, demonization of White America by the racist left.

    To be expected.
    , @Brutusale
    Boston Herald columnist Howie Carr blames the moonbat Red $ox owner, ubergeek John Henry.


    http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/howie_carr/2015/08/carr_booze_bros_inspired_by_fenway_more_than_donald_trump
  35. Sash Baron-Cohen was hilarious in The Dictator. His Ali-G movie is pretty funny too.

    • Replies: @TWS
    So-So as the Dictator. I haven't seen the Ali-G movie.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    His Ali-G movie is pretty funny too.

    The problem with the Ali G show was that he was always being a jerk to nice people and I kept hoping one of them would punch him in the nose. The show caused me stress, because I kept waiting for that payoff and it never happened.
  36. Similarly OT, Germany will accept 800,000 refugees a year. That will not end well. Most East Germans feel themselves oppressed by half a century of Communism and don’t want to be last in line for government help. Much less minorities in their own country. And Communism bred a type of person who had to do things illegally just to survive. You can see this in the arson against refugee centers and supplies for refugees. Against say the regime of Erich Honecker, Angela Merkel is a marshmallow.

    This will not end well.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    For whom? If it ends well for the Germans themselves, I'll be ok with it, especially if getting nearly smothered in their cradle manages to wake them from their awful meekness regarding their past. Another people whose recessive Berserker gene I hope is awakened are the Swedes.
    , @Ozymandias
    "You can see this in the arson against refugee centers and supplies for refugees."

    You gotta admit it's hard to keep old Jerry down. A lot of them have been fighting in the Ukraine. I wouldn't care to be the cause of those gents returning home angry.
    , @tbraton
    "This will not end well."

    I read recently that Sweden started liberalizing their immigration laws and admitting Africans and Middle Easterners in 1974. That was 41 years ago! And they are still coming in. I have a friend whom I have known for 25 years. She is Swedish and came to the U.S. when she was 21, more than 40 years ago. She goes back to visit her sister every summer. As long as I have known her, we have talked about the insane influx of non-white immigrants, many Muslim, into Sweden, which we both consider utterly insane. If they haven't woken up to their dilemma after 41 years, you wonder if they will ever wake up.
  37. @Steve Sailer
    My impression is that Baron Cohen had to leave England for America to get more celebrities whose publicists hadn't heard of him yet. Then he had to retire Ali G, his best character, because everybody had heard of him.

    A keep in mind that a lot of the "celebrities" weren't exactly George Clooney on the celebritiometer. I remember Ali G interviewing an obscure Attorney General from the Ford Administration, a nice, scholarly man, probably a law school professor emeritus by this point. The interview started off like a Brian Lamb interview on CSPAN's "Booknotes:"

    Q. "What is "Legal?"

    A. "Uh ... An excellent question ... in the English common law tradition, "legal" connotes ..."

    Q. "What is 'Barely Legal?'"

    Perhaps Trump's people figured it out, however? Or maybe Trump just doesn't suffer fools gladly?

    In that episode, Ali G pitched the ice cream idea to a number of of Wall Street-type investors. Overall the businessmen (and women), were much less indulgent of his idiocy than the typical politician or public figure that he interviews. One of the investors even told him “this may be the worst idea I’ve ever heard.”

  38. News flash: Brazilian real estate developer not offended by Trump comments about Mexicans!

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/21/world/americas/donald-trump-hotel-rio-immigration.html

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "News flash: Brazilian real estate developer not offended by Trump comments about Mexicans!

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/21/world/americas/donald-trump-hotel-rio-immigration.html"

    Brazilians do not even speak the same language as Mexicans, so I can see why the Brazilian real estate developer is not offended by someone bashing Mexicans.
    , @AndrewR
    Um... what? Was he supposed to be?
  39. Wow, remember how remarkable everyone said cohen was several years ago? That fire went out pretty fast. And I think we can see why.

  40. At first the crowd (obviously somewhat drunk) were kind of shocked and didn’t do anything. However, Borat kept encouraging them to sing along and the song and especially the chorus was catchy. Eventually, the crowd was singing along and laughing with the lyrics. Later Cohen used this when he was ranting about anti-semitism.

    Does Baron-Cohen do the same thing to Jews? If not, he’s a misanthrope, which is far worse than antisemitism.

    In that episode, Ali G pitched the ice cream idea to a number of of Wall Street-type investors. Overall the businessmen (and women), were much less indulgent of his idiocy than the typical politician or public figure that he interviews. One of the investors even told him “this may be the worst idea I’ve ever heard.”

    Business is inherently authoritarian.

    • Replies: @Deduction

    Does Baron-Cohen do the same thing to Jews? If not, he’s a misanthrope, which is far worse than antisemitism.
     
    I'm not sure this counts but the moment when they clap at the end caused me to spit out my glass of water all over the table.

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rofVFJ9PoXE
  41. @Jonathan Mason
    I doubt if Baron Cohen was beaten up as a kid. He came from a well-off London Jewish family and graduated from Cambridge University just like comedians John Cleese and Hugh Laurie.

    And he’s like 6’3″ and broad-shouldered.

    • Replies: @grey enlightenment2
    trump must be huge because he doesn't look too big in that pic
    , @Anonymous
    Baron - Cohen presented his Borax film at a special showing before a bunch of elderly Jewish ladies around the same time as his Sundance showing. They got all verklempt when they saw the "throw the Jews down the well" bit.

    The reporter who wrote the article talked about their freakout. It validated everything they knew about crazy white trash X-tians. Which, of course, they already believed, but it's nice when a good Jewish boy like Borat gets it down on tape.
    , @Reg Cæsar


    And he’s like 6’3″ and broad-shouldered.

     

    So is Boy George-- 6'4", in fact. He comes from a clan of Irish boxers and could have been one himself.

    It would be great fun to watch Mr Baron Cohen and Mr O'Dowd go at it in the ring, with Mr Sailer as referee.

    It'd be equistatural, like the Minneapolis skyline.
  42. @Whiskey
    Similarly OT, Germany will accept 800,000 refugees a year. That will not end well. Most East Germans feel themselves oppressed by half a century of Communism and don't want to be last in line for government help. Much less minorities in their own country. And Communism bred a type of person who had to do things illegally just to survive. You can see this in the arson against refugee centers and supplies for refugees. Against say the regime of Erich Honecker, Angela Merkel is a marshmallow.

    This will not end well.

    For whom? If it ends well for the Germans themselves, I’ll be ok with it, especially if getting nearly smothered in their cradle manages to wake them from their awful meekness regarding their past. Another people whose recessive Berserker gene I hope is awakened are the Swedes.

  43. @Steve Sailer
    And he's like 6'3" and broad-shouldered.

    trump must be huge because he doesn’t look too big in that pic

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Trump looked taller than the quite large Bill Clinton in some golf course photos, although I suspect Trump uses his old military academy posture to stand tall when the cameras are clicking, especially when he's standing near an ex-President.
  44. Ali G is a parody of British Pakis.

  45. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Off-topic Steve, but I'm wondering if you've seen this current brouhaha over sororities (mostly Southern) making recruitment videos where the sorority sisters are acting just too white and chipper, etc. There getting attacked for racism, being too conformist to the patriarchal ideals for women, etc. Basically hitting all the SJW vs. dark enlightenment themes. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/08/18/university-alabama-criticized-racially-homogeneous-recruitment-video/31900097/

    Off-topic Steve, but I’m wondering if you’ve seen this current brouhaha over sororities (mostly Southern) making recruitment videos where the sorority sisters are acting just too white and chipper, etc. There getting attacked for racism, being too conformist to the patriarchal ideals for women, etc. Basically hitting all the SJW vs. dark enlightenment themes. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/08/18/university-alabama-criticized-racially-homogeneous-recruitment-video/31900097/

    What BS, these Southies are genetically pro-union Democrat. Howie Carr is on Boston’s WRKO 20 hrs/week and makes Trump’s immigration stance look like Ted Kennedy’s. Speaking of Kennedy, Howie Carr would say Ted is celebrating his sixth year of sobriety this month.

  46. e says:
    @Somebody
    Oh yeah, it was in place long before that.

    Btw, the term 'persona' has a rather negative connotation, I find; it suggests that somebody is acting and isn't authentic. That's definitely not the case with Trump. With him it's really 'what you see is what you get' - and he's largely born like that, it wasn't learned through reality TV.

    Rather than 'persona', in his case I'd simply speak of personality.

    Trump has said on many occasions when he was asked about his kids’ personalities or, for that matter, about his own, that “people are largely born the way they’ll be the rest of their lives.”

    I loved that– a public man who is now a politician who understands nature trumps nurture and isn’t afraid to say it. He did go on to speak of how much he learned about business from his father, whom he clearly reveres. He said, “My dad was a really, really tough guy. He had always been that way and I learned a lot from him.” He said it was his daughter who seems to be most like him, at least when it comes to business.

    I think he’s made a conscious choice NOT to use the old “nature is stronger than nurture” but he’s sending signals that he sees this as important. I am sure the progs are freaking. I have a liberal friend who freaked at that pronouncement.

  47. @grey enlightenment2
    trump must be huge because he doesn't look too big in that pic

    Trump looked taller than the quite large Bill Clinton in some golf course photos, although I suspect Trump uses his old military academy posture to stand tall when the cameras are clicking, especially when he’s standing near an ex-President.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I've stood next to both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump (at different times). Clinton's height was surprising and didn't seem to be under 6'4". And I would have guessed Trump is also 6'4". I know they are both listed as 6'3" but they both seem taller in real life.

    On another subject, I find it interesting that both Trump and Clinton sleep just 4 hours a night. Same with Martha Stewart and a lot of high energy achievers. If I get under 7 hours I'm a brain-dead grumpy zombie.

    , @TWS
    Trump is so stout that he looks shorter. He has no neck and broad shoulders.
  48. @Average Man
    OT: The Atlantic writes an article blaming Trump for a racist attack on a homeless man.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/a-trump-inspired-hate-crime-in-boston/401906/

    Russell Berman…

    anyway are these attacks a bad thing or not? If they’re bad, has Russell written an article condemning Obama and Holder’s ceaseless race baiting?

  49. @International Jew
    News flash: Brazilian real estate developer not offended by Trump comments about Mexicans!

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/21/world/americas/donald-trump-hotel-rio-immigration.html

    “News flash: Brazilian real estate developer not offended by Trump comments about Mexicans!

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/21/world/americas/donald-trump-hotel-rio-immigration.html”

    Brazilians do not even speak the same language as Mexicans, so I can see why the Brazilian real estate developer is not offended by someone bashing Mexicans.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    Well, tell that to the New York Times!
  50. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "The reason he got beat up is school is likely he is obviously white with a white brother (everyone knew in the small town) but used black slang and insisted he was black."

    From Woody Allen's Sleeper:

    "Did I happen to mention I'm mulatto?"

    "Myles, come on."

    "No, I'm serious. Didn't I tell you? My mother was black and my father was white."

    "Just stop."

    "No, I'm serious. You didn't know that about me?"


    Uh, no Woody, or Sasha,....we didn't know that about you.

    Substitute – your lies for fact
    I see right through your plastic mac
    I look all white, but my dad was black
    My fine-looking suit is really made out of sack

  51. Trump is so wonderful, he trolls trolls.

    Lefties wonder why he’s so popular, and here he demonstrates it: he’s the best dang reality show star, period.

    If the world’s gonna burn, we might as well be entertained. And a little emboldened.

  52. @International Jew
    News flash: Brazilian real estate developer not offended by Trump comments about Mexicans!

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/21/world/americas/donald-trump-hotel-rio-immigration.html

    Um… what? Was he supposed to be?

  53. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Trump looked taller than the quite large Bill Clinton in some golf course photos, although I suspect Trump uses his old military academy posture to stand tall when the cameras are clicking, especially when he's standing near an ex-President.

    I’ve stood next to both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump (at different times). Clinton’s height was surprising and didn’t seem to be under 6’4″. And I would have guessed Trump is also 6’4″. I know they are both listed as 6’3″ but they both seem taller in real life.

    On another subject, I find it interesting that both Trump and Clinton sleep just 4 hours a night. Same with Martha Stewart and a lot of high energy achievers. If I get under 7 hours I’m a brain-dead grumpy zombie.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    My number of quality blog posts in a day could be calculated pretty accurately from the number of hours of sleep I got the night before and the number of cups of coffee I drink.
    , @Anonymous
    Clinton and Trump are both around 6'1"/6'2". John Kerry is taller than both and he's a solid 6'4".
    , @wrd9
    Margaret Thatcher, too.
  54. @Steve Sailer
    My impression is that Baron Cohen had to leave England for America to get more celebrities whose publicists hadn't heard of him yet. Then he had to retire Ali G, his best character, because everybody had heard of him.

    A keep in mind that a lot of the "celebrities" weren't exactly George Clooney on the celebritiometer. I remember Ali G interviewing an obscure Attorney General from the Ford Administration, a nice, scholarly man, probably a law school professor emeritus by this point. The interview started off like a Brian Lamb interview on CSPAN's "Booknotes:"

    Q. "What is "Legal?"

    A. "Uh ... An excellent question ... in the English common law tradition, "legal" connotes ..."

    Q. "What is 'Barely Legal?'"

    Perhaps Trump's people figured it out, however? Or maybe Trump just doesn't suffer fools gladly?

    Apparently he had a fake interviewing company and a serious interviewer would come on as a warm-up.

    Also, if you look around for the old English series you can find SBC interviewing lefties such as Naomi Wolf. I remember at one point interviewing a feminist he confused feminism with lesbianism…’sometimes girls try a little feminism, then they go back to their boyfriends’. The interviewer then hastened to add that there was *no connection at all* between feminism and lesbianism. Or the bit you turned me onto where he’s shown pictures of miners covered in coal dust and he asks why it’s always the black man in the mines.

    I think he started out making fun of anyone he could get, then as time went on all the famous people had HBO and had heard of him, so he had to do Borat and go after rural Americans who hadn’t heard of him yet–that’s why Borat is so heavily red-state-weighted. I suspect a lot of the rattling on about ‘exposing America’s racism’ was a way to get away with making racist jokes. After all, he can freely pretend to be anti-Semitic because, well, he’s Jewish.

    The guy’s a shock comedian, like Howard Stern.

  55. @Anonymous
    I've stood next to both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump (at different times). Clinton's height was surprising and didn't seem to be under 6'4". And I would have guessed Trump is also 6'4". I know they are both listed as 6'3" but they both seem taller in real life.

    On another subject, I find it interesting that both Trump and Clinton sleep just 4 hours a night. Same with Martha Stewart and a lot of high energy achievers. If I get under 7 hours I'm a brain-dead grumpy zombie.

    My number of quality blog posts in a day could be calculated pretty accurately from the number of hours of sleep I got the night before and the number of cups of coffee I drink.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    So what's the formula?
  56. “As you know, I know how to build. I know how to get it done. We’ll call it the Great Wall of Trump. We’ll have a great wall and it will be – it’ll be actually — it can be a good-looking wall, as walls go, but we will have a really terrific wall and it will be done for the right price.”

    Hoping he puts some waterfalls along the Great Wall of Trump….he could also sell advertising , sell billboard space the the highest bidders to generate some monthly income from the Great Wall.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/08/20/trump_on_border_well_call_it_the_great_wall_of_trump.html

    “you look at the Great Wall of China that was built 2,500 years ago. It’s 13,000 miles. And we’re really talking about something more than a little more than 1,000 miles. So it is something that can be absolutely done, not done at tremendous cost.”-Donald Trump

    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    "Build it and they won't come"
    , @TWS
    Combine Sailer's idea with Trumps. Build a wall then build high quality, high security homes in a strip say a mile or so along the border. Then give the homes to ex military and police who will agree to act as border guards in return for the home.

    Extend retirement for that job to say 75 and make sure they have options afterward. The household would have to have at least one guy willing to meet the standards and open carry. If you build it right the illegals would have to be crossing lots of yards with lots of large dogs and guys with guns.
  57. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "The reason he got beat up is school is likely he is obviously white with a white brother (everyone knew in the small town) but used black slang and insisted he was black."

    From Woody Allen's Sleeper:

    "Did I happen to mention I'm mulatto?"

    "Myles, come on."

    "No, I'm serious. Didn't I tell you? My mother was black and my father was white."

    "Just stop."

    "No, I'm serious. You didn't know that about me?"


    Uh, no Woody, or Sasha,....we didn't know that about you.

    A wigger. That would make sense. Judging from the Daily Mail pictures of him as a cute, earnest little white boy with brown curly hair at age 9 or so, and his transformation into a brutha with cropped black hair at 16 or so, something happened, big time. Dolezal didn’t transform until age 18-20 or so.

    How old was he when his transracialism hit and he realized deep down inside that he really was black?

    • Replies: @Travis
    Rachel Dolezal did not start to transition until she was over 30 years old.

    While in Grad School Dolezal sued Howard University in 2003 for discriminating against her for being white. She claimed retaliation based on her race and gender, saying she had been denied teaching positions and scholarship aid. She also complained that some of her artwork had been removed from an exhibition because black students were being favored. A judge, and subsequently an appeals court, found no basis for her claims in 2004.
    No one questioned whether she was black, said David Smedley, an associate professor of sculpture and coordinator of Howard’s sculpture program, who was her thesis adviser at the university. “She was a blue-eyed blond woman.”

    She divorced he Black husband in 2005 and eventually moved to Spokane, where she quickly transitioned into an African-American at the age of 31 in 2007
  58. @Travis
    "As you know, I know how to build. I know how to get it done. We'll call it the Great Wall of Trump. We'll have a great wall and it will be - it'll be actually -- it can be a good-looking wall, as walls go, but we will have a really terrific wall and it will be done for the right price."

    Hoping he puts some waterfalls along the Great Wall of Trump....he could also sell advertising , sell billboard space the the highest bidders to generate some monthly income from the Great Wall.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/08/20/trump_on_border_well_call_it_the_great_wall_of_trump.html

    "you look at the Great Wall of China that was built 2,500 years ago. It's 13,000 miles. And we're really talking about something more than a little more than 1,000 miles. So it is something that can be absolutely done, not done at tremendous cost."-Donald Trump

    “Build it and they won’t come”

    • Agree: Ozymandias
  59. That Ali G video speaks volumes, somehow. I used to not realize how great the great actors were until I learned how hard it is for them to simply act like regular people, much less highly individuated/specific roles. Politicians are generally kinda the same. They’re generally not normal, personally, somehow, like for instance, if Ted Cruz went around talking with the tonal mannerism that he does and he was NOT a politician, you’d probably assume he had screws lose. I guess we expect politicians to act, somehow, odd. Trump’s very good at being himself and that’s obvious from the way he uses his hands when making a point. Probably it is safe to say expressing normality that way is conducive to clear thinking. Which is probably the reason Trump is the candidate of tough-minded common sense, Pat Buchanan with a New York City soul. He’s basically a normal kind of guy who is very very rich.

  60. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    And he's like 6'3" and broad-shouldered.

    Baron – Cohen presented his Borax film at a special showing before a bunch of elderly Jewish ladies around the same time as his Sundance showing. They got all verklempt when they saw the “throw the Jews down the well” bit.

    The reporter who wrote the article talked about their freakout. It validated everything they knew about crazy white trash X-tians. Which, of course, they already believed, but it’s nice when a good Jewish boy like Borat gets it down on tape.

    • Replies: @el topo
    I noticed in that video that one of the most enthusiastic audience members singing "Throw the Jew down the well!" was a Hispanic woman. She got right into the spirit of it. Of course I wasn't supposed to notice that.
  61. @Steve Sailer
    My number of quality blog posts in a day could be calculated pretty accurately from the number of hours of sleep I got the night before and the number of cups of coffee I drink.

    So what’s the formula?

    • Replies: @Anonym
    I'm only half joking... my guess it is non-linear.

    5-7 good articles = 8 hrs with no sleep debt and max coffee intake. Or UK riots style news flurry.

    Nothing, or submit a non-time-critical golf article saved from earlier effort - 4 hours sleep and coffee detox.

    In between... some curves.

    A really good formula would take into account previous days coffee intake and sleep debt. Something like the Syndicate algorithm. Classic game.
  62. @Jonathan Mason
    I doubt if Baron Cohen was beaten up as a kid. He came from a well-off London Jewish family and graduated from Cambridge University just like comedians John Cleese and Hugh Laurie.

    Not Cohen, Shaun King, who likes to tell a story about a gang beat down in high school because he was black. That got fact checked too, though a couple people from his school say it happened, the school records show a fight between two boys.

  63. Hey you guys, I like what Trump is saying a hell of a lot, too, but I think the paleoconservative and conservative immigration movements are falling in love with Trump too much too early in the game. We need to detach Trump the person from the very solid immigration opinions/solutions he’s expressing.

    If the man and those immigration solutions become too synonymous, then those solutions may not transfer over to whoever the Republican nominee is (and, I hate to tell you this, but it probably won’t be Trump. Why not? Early polls might be representing more of what Spengler called a “wish picture for the future” than a serious commitment to a serious candidate.) I’d hate to see our hopes die with Trump’s campaign.

    We should spend less time talking about how great Trump is and more time about how to get most of the other candidates to co-opt the important elements of Trump’s immigration philosophy into their campaigns. Of course, Jeb and Graham won’t go along with the idea, but others might. Cruz is almost there in some respects, Walker maybe, though I don’t know how much I can trust him at this point. Fiorina might be possible.

    Just a reality check: It’s very unlikely that Trump will be the next president of the United States…even if it means that a straight ahead socialist will. I suspect that Americans still haven’t abandoned the idea of having a president who’s “presidential.”

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    We should spend less time talking about how great Trump is and more time about how to get most of the other candidates to co-opt the important elements of Trump’s immigration philosophy into their campaigns.

    Sorry to burst your bubble but this is wishful thinking. Everybody else is waiting and hoping Trump burns out so they can go back to ignoring the immigration issue. Nothing but Trump can make them change their positions. The people backing those puppets aren't going to let them get behind real immigration reform and people constantly saying Trump is not a viable candidate gives the billionaires reason to continue to hold on and dump more money into the coffers of people like Jeb.
    , @Lugash
    Early polls might be representing more of what Spengler called a “wish picture for the future” than a serious commitment to a serious candidate.) I’d hate to see our hopes die with Trump’s campaign.

    It sounds like you've got a wish picture of the future about the GOP establishment with respect to immigration. Charitably I would call it a dream or fantasy, but it's more of a delusion. Or masochism. "Graham and Boehner are really going to listen to the Republican base _this_ time!".

    Trump, warts and all, is the last chance we've got. Even if he implodes, he has sent a message to the GOP elite.
    , @MarkinLA
    Cruz is almost there in some respects, Walker maybe, though I don’t know how much I can trust him at this point. Fiorina might be possible.

    Cruz the 325,000 H-1Bs a year guy whose wife is Goldman Sachs, Walker who just recently got religion, and Fiorina who thinks Americans have no right to jobs is going to actually change their minds and alienate their billionaire backers and follow through if they get elected? You mean you want a repeat of the past 10 elections where the politician says something and does something else once in office? Is that what being Presidential means?
    , @ben tillman

    We should spend less time talking about how great Trump is and more time about how to get most of the other candidates to co-opt the important elements of Trump’s immigration philosophy into their campaigns. Of course, Jeb and Graham won’t go along with the idea....
     
    On Monday, Graham came out against birthright citizenship, so you never know.
  64. @Anonymous
    Pat Buchanan is similar, though obviously much more famous and prominent than that AG. He was interviewed by Ali G, and he's the type that would have never heard of someone like Ali G before being interviewed by him. He's very good natured and comfortable during the interview. He's a good sport:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwEd_tcKBfU

    Yep. Buchanan is right there with Ben Franklin for best americans in politics to not make it Prez. Tangentially I’m reminded of John Zmirak (whatever happened to him?) referring to wistfully watching every year Pat’s speech at the 92 Convention, and now I do too. Which also reminds me of Tom Piatak’s full blown frontal assault against VD Hanson’s negative review of Pat’s book The Unnecessary War. And come to think of it, that’s when Zmirak really nixed his chance at mainstreamdom, as I seem to recall him burning his bridges with Scott McConnell and AmConMag over their review of it. anyways…

    • Replies: @The Millennial Falcon
    Zmirak still writes. A contributor to The Stream.
    , @Bert
    I found myself thinking about John Zmirak the other day as well. He hasn't written anything for Taki's since 2009, and I can't recall anything else besides maybe a few guest pieces for Chronicles. From what I recall, he was very upset at the Catholic Church's transmogrification into an arm of the Mexican government and cultural Marxism. Maybe the election of Francis caused him to completely give up hope?

    I also remember around that time pretty much all the old Taki's people cut their ties with AmConMag. And I can't blame them, that rag is a pathetic shell of it's former self.

  65. @J1234
    Hey you guys, I like what Trump is saying a hell of a lot, too, but I think the paleoconservative and conservative immigration movements are falling in love with Trump too much too early in the game. We need to detach Trump the person from the very solid immigration opinions/solutions he's expressing.

    If the man and those immigration solutions become too synonymous, then those solutions may not transfer over to whoever the Republican nominee is (and, I hate to tell you this, but it probably won't be Trump. Why not? Early polls might be representing more of what Spengler called a "wish picture for the future" than a serious commitment to a serious candidate.) I'd hate to see our hopes die with Trump's campaign.

    We should spend less time talking about how great Trump is and more time about how to get most of the other candidates to co-opt the important elements of Trump's immigration philosophy into their campaigns. Of course, Jeb and Graham won't go along with the idea, but others might. Cruz is almost there in some respects, Walker maybe, though I don't know how much I can trust him at this point. Fiorina might be possible.

    Just a reality check: It's very unlikely that Trump will be the next president of the United States...even if it means that a straight ahead socialist will. I suspect that Americans still haven't abandoned the idea of having a president who's "presidential."

    We should spend less time talking about how great Trump is and more time about how to get most of the other candidates to co-opt the important elements of Trump’s immigration philosophy into their campaigns.

    Sorry to burst your bubble but this is wishful thinking. Everybody else is waiting and hoping Trump burns out so they can go back to ignoring the immigration issue. Nothing but Trump can make them change their positions. The people backing those puppets aren’t going to let them get behind real immigration reform and people constantly saying Trump is not a viable candidate gives the billionaires reason to continue to hold on and dump more money into the coffers of people like Jeb.

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen, Brutusale
    • Replies: @TWS
    If the establishment wants to take the wind out of Trump's sails all they need to do is take his positions on the border, immigration etc. But they won't they'd rather lose than do that.
    , @Lagertha
    Exactly. I AM A bona fide "anchor baby," and, I am grateful that Trump is astute enough to realize (opportunistically or not) what mass immigration (presently in Europe, and, in the future, the US from Africa & Middle East/Asia,) has cost the American public during these last 7-15 years...and will be at odds soon (H1B visa drones) with recent American STEM college grads.

    I know Trump is smart, and, I will attach my boat to his yacht for now while he is behaving like a normal person (take note). Also, on a wild tangent: I am getting a kick out of so many people denigrating Trump (watching the MSM news right now) not realizing: that only creates more curiosity about him for people who don't know who he was in the 80's and why he is running for president! The long drought of Trump running now, again, for president should be national news whether all the parties like it or not! He kinda' is Henry VIII.
  66. @Jefferson
    "News flash: Brazilian real estate developer not offended by Trump comments about Mexicans!

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/08/21/world/americas/donald-trump-hotel-rio-immigration.html"

    Brazilians do not even speak the same language as Mexicans, so I can see why the Brazilian real estate developer is not offended by someone bashing Mexicans.

    Well, tell that to the New York Times!

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Well, tell that to the New York Times!"

    If most people working at New York Times do not know Brazilians speak Portuguese and not Spanish, what kind of dumb asses are they hiring? Aren't the staff at The New York Times suppose to be a lot more intelligent, sophisticated, book smart educated, knowledgeable of other cultures, and have higher IQ's than the so-called "dumb masses in fly over country who cling to their religion and their guns".

    A New York Times Liberal can get away with believing Spanish is the official language of Brazil and not be called an uneducated dumb hick for it. If a Rick Perry had believed it, the Left would say he is just another dumb Texan just like Dubya.

  67. @International Jew
    Well, tell that to the New York Times!

    “Well, tell that to the New York Times!”

    If most people working at New York Times do not know Brazilians speak Portuguese and not Spanish, what kind of dumb asses are they hiring? Aren’t the staff at The New York Times suppose to be a lot more intelligent, sophisticated, book smart educated, knowledgeable of other cultures, and have higher IQ’s than the so-called “dumb masses in fly over country who cling to their religion and their guns”.

    A New York Times Liberal can get away with believing Spanish is the official language of Brazil and not be called an uneducated dumb hick for it. If a Rick Perry had believed it, the Left would say he is just another dumb Texan just like Dubya.

    • Replies: @International Jew

    If most people working at New York Times do not know Brazilians speak Portuguese
     
    Yes, it's absurd for them to think that Brazilians (and a white upperclass Brazilian at that) would join hands in solidarity with Mexican peasants and take offense on their behalf. But not much more absurd than imagining Puerto Ricans give a shit about Mexicans.

    We live in interesting times. A century or two ago, European elites worked hard to unite their not-so-united subjects, whose sense of identity was at most regional, behind an imagined national identity: Italy, Germany, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia. In some cases it was for self defense, in others it was to lead them into aggressive wars.

    Today, those Americans who hope to rule through a coalition of the fringes are likewise trying expand natural loyalties in artificial directions. And as in Europe, the goal is to conscript them into a war of sorts -- fought not against external enemies but against native badwhites.

  68. @War for Blair Mountain
    And don't forget Ghengis Khan's great great great great great great...how many greats....grandson, actor Charles Bronson who played Mexican bandits in Hollywood Westerns....How about uterous free Jamie Lee Curtis who played Women in Hollywood Block Busters...

    “How about uterous free Jamie Lee Curtis ”

    are you sure?

  69. The Ali G. video with Trump is very funny!

    By the way, I hope your fundraiser is going well. I just sent a donation into you today. Your blog is great!!!

  70. @Average Man
    OT: The Atlantic writes an article blaming Trump for a racist attack on a homeless man.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/a-trump-inspired-hate-crime-in-boston/401906/

    OT: The Atlantic writes an article blaming Trump for a racist attack on a homeless man.

    Again, CLICKBAIT!!

    Plus, demonization of White America by the racist left.

    To be expected.

  71. @Clyde
    (Net worth: $110 million) Sacha Baron Cohen may be worth millions....but he never made me laugh. So screw him.

    He made me laugh when, as Borat, he offered Bob Barr a piece of cheese, and then, while Barr was chewing on it, Borat told him the cheese was made from his wife’s breast milk.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    No laughs from me on that one. The funny thing is that after invading numerous peoples spaces and privacy he (Baron Cohen) and his wife are very private themselves. They remain cloistered away in comparison to most showbiz couples.
  72. I remember the Redneck who told Borat that he should shave his bushy mustache so that he would look more Italian and less Arab. The Left today would see that as a racist micro aggression. They would say there is nothing wrong with looking Arab, what an offensive thing to say that he should shave his mustache to look more Western a.k.a look more White.

    That Redneck would most likely have mistaken the Italian Jim Croce for an Arab as well since he had the Borat style mustache and the swarthy complexion like Borat.

  73. @iSteveFan
    Check 0ut Gary Oldham from the film True Romance. In this clip he pulls off the black thing pretty well as Christian Slater's character confronts him.

    IIRC, someone in the movie says about Oldman’s character, “he thinks he’s black”.

  74. Bruno’s interview with Ron Paul did not go over very well….

  75. @J1234
    Hey you guys, I like what Trump is saying a hell of a lot, too, but I think the paleoconservative and conservative immigration movements are falling in love with Trump too much too early in the game. We need to detach Trump the person from the very solid immigration opinions/solutions he's expressing.

    If the man and those immigration solutions become too synonymous, then those solutions may not transfer over to whoever the Republican nominee is (and, I hate to tell you this, but it probably won't be Trump. Why not? Early polls might be representing more of what Spengler called a "wish picture for the future" than a serious commitment to a serious candidate.) I'd hate to see our hopes die with Trump's campaign.

    We should spend less time talking about how great Trump is and more time about how to get most of the other candidates to co-opt the important elements of Trump's immigration philosophy into their campaigns. Of course, Jeb and Graham won't go along with the idea, but others might. Cruz is almost there in some respects, Walker maybe, though I don't know how much I can trust him at this point. Fiorina might be possible.

    Just a reality check: It's very unlikely that Trump will be the next president of the United States...even if it means that a straight ahead socialist will. I suspect that Americans still haven't abandoned the idea of having a president who's "presidential."

    Early polls might be representing more of what Spengler called a “wish picture for the future” than a serious commitment to a serious candidate.) I’d hate to see our hopes die with Trump’s campaign.

    It sounds like you’ve got a wish picture of the future about the GOP establishment with respect to immigration. Charitably I would call it a dream or fantasy, but it’s more of a delusion. Or masochism. “Graham and Boehner are really going to listen to the Republican base _this_ time!”.

    Trump, warts and all, is the last chance we’ve got. Even if he implodes, he has sent a message to the GOP elite.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    I’d hate to see our hopes die with Trump’s campaign.

    I'm pretty sure they will. Remember how Ross Perot made our giant deficit a front-and-center issue? The Republican house even balanced the budget once as a result. With Perot off the stage, no one has brought it up in any serious way for nearly 20 years.
    , @J1234

    It sounds like you’ve got a wish picture of the future about the GOP establishment with respect to immigration.
     
    Cruz is GOP establishment? Huh, I didn't know that. Listen, Trump's fight with the RNC and mainstream Repubs has our focus right now, but it's all subordinate to the fight with the Democrats in the final showdown. You need to understand that I'm a person who spends a great deal of time defending Trump's positions on immigration to the world at large. Defending his positions is hard enough. Defending Trump the persona to independents and moderates will be much harder in a year or so.

    Anything's possible...and that includes Trump becoming president...but we haven't even remotely got to the nastiest part of the campaigning yet. This has nothing at all to do with my wishes, this has to do with reality. If you believe a majority of Americans - who just put BO into office twice - are going to vote for Trump for president in Nov. 2016, you're not dealing with reality.

    MY wish picture is that they would vote for Trump. But they won't. They probably won't go for Cruz, either...I mention him because he's another candidate who has some tough points on immigration that could influence other Repub. candidates.

    If the other Repub. candidates don't adopt Trump's immigration philosophy and he doesn't get the nomination, we're sunk, because Donald will start a third party. That means the Democrats are sure to win, given the split on immigration on the right.

    If the others adopt Trump's essential immigr. philosophy, however, his third party candidacy will be dead in the water, because voters will go for someone who has good conservative immigr. policies and is more electable in the general election. Convincing most of the other dozen candidates to accept Trump's immigr. stance will be much easier than convincing millions of moderate conservatives to vote for the Donald.

  76. @Pat Casey
    Yep. Buchanan is right there with Ben Franklin for best americans in politics to not make it Prez. Tangentially I'm reminded of John Zmirak (whatever happened to him?) referring to wistfully watching every year Pat's speech at the 92 Convention, and now I do too. Which also reminds me of Tom Piatak's full blown frontal assault against VD Hanson's negative review of Pat's book The Unnecessary War. And come to think of it, that's when Zmirak really nixed his chance at mainstreamdom, as I seem to recall him burning his bridges with Scott McConnell and AmConMag over their review of it. anyways...

    Zmirak still writes. A contributor to The Stream.

  77. @Somebody
    Trump has an incredibly strong frame, and total self-confidence.

    No fake laughs, no going along with some clownish foolishness in order to be polite.

    You can't help but love the guy; and even if you don't, you'll certainly respect him.

    What’s amazing to me is how much the media have underestimated Trump, despite how much experience they have had with him over the last few decades. Trump has a deadly combo compared to most traditional pols: He’s got the successful businessman competence, but he’s also got more TV experience than any of them.

    Most candidates play a role for the campaign — say, a guy who wants to “build the dang fence”. Trump’s been playing the same role for 30+ years, so it’s easier for him to stay in character. I don’t know what he was like originally — I’m guessing, a somewhat toned-down version of what he is now — but the media’s been throwing labels at Trump for years, and he puts them on, proudly. So he’s impervious to them, in a way most pols are not

    Nice quote in the WaPo from former NJ governor Tom Kean:

    “No one has figured out how to handle Trump,” said former New Jersey governor Tom Kean Sr. (R). “Everyone underestimated him terribly from Day One. But as someone who knows him and knew his father — the whole family — I can assure you, that was a mistake.”

  78. @Big Bill
    A wigger. That would make sense. Judging from the Daily Mail pictures of him as a cute, earnest little white boy with brown curly hair at age 9 or so, and his transformation into a brutha with cropped black hair at 16 or so, something happened, big time. Dolezal didn't transform until age 18-20 or so.

    How old was he when his transracialism hit and he realized deep down inside that he really was black?

    Rachel Dolezal did not start to transition until she was over 30 years old.

    While in Grad School Dolezal sued Howard University in 2003 for discriminating against her for being white. She claimed retaliation based on her race and gender, saying she had been denied teaching positions and scholarship aid. She also complained that some of her artwork had been removed from an exhibition because black students were being favored. A judge, and subsequently an appeals court, found no basis for her claims in 2004.
    No one questioned whether she was black, said David Smedley, an associate professor of sculpture and coordinator of Howard’s sculpture program, who was her thesis adviser at the university. “She was a blue-eyed blond woman.”

    She divorced he Black husband in 2005 and eventually moved to Spokane, where she quickly transitioned into an African-American at the age of 31 in 2007

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    I haven't seen the documentation of her college claim. Given that it was at a black college, however, and given that black-on-black racism is a problem (blacks call it "colorism"), she COULD have been complaining that her "fellow" blacks were discriminating against her because she was "hi-yalla". In other words, because she was an extremely light-skinned black, and were calling her (ugh!) "white". If this was the core of her discrimination claim, her transracial color shift would have happened earlier than attending college.

    This is a subtlety that would be lost on most rightwing white folks, since black folks like to keep their dirty linen a secret from white folks. Hence the special black-only name for black racism.
  79. @Ozymandias
    "Paul Craig Roberts stated today..."

    That dude has lost it. I tried reading a few of his articles, but it's like having a conversation with a delusional hobo who's screaming in your face and spraying spit everywhere.

    I enjoy reading PCR along with many other (non-Steve) Unz writers.

    Its like a modern version of visiting this place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethlem_Royal_Hospital (except the residents here are all older)

  80. @Lugash
    Early polls might be representing more of what Spengler called a “wish picture for the future” than a serious commitment to a serious candidate.) I’d hate to see our hopes die with Trump’s campaign.

    It sounds like you've got a wish picture of the future about the GOP establishment with respect to immigration. Charitably I would call it a dream or fantasy, but it's more of a delusion. Or masochism. "Graham and Boehner are really going to listen to the Republican base _this_ time!".

    Trump, warts and all, is the last chance we've got. Even if he implodes, he has sent a message to the GOP elite.

    I’d hate to see our hopes die with Trump’s campaign.

    I’m pretty sure they will. Remember how Ross Perot made our giant deficit a front-and-center issue? The Republican house even balanced the budget once as a result. With Perot off the stage, no one has brought it up in any serious way for nearly 20 years.

  81. @J1234
    Hey you guys, I like what Trump is saying a hell of a lot, too, but I think the paleoconservative and conservative immigration movements are falling in love with Trump too much too early in the game. We need to detach Trump the person from the very solid immigration opinions/solutions he's expressing.

    If the man and those immigration solutions become too synonymous, then those solutions may not transfer over to whoever the Republican nominee is (and, I hate to tell you this, but it probably won't be Trump. Why not? Early polls might be representing more of what Spengler called a "wish picture for the future" than a serious commitment to a serious candidate.) I'd hate to see our hopes die with Trump's campaign.

    We should spend less time talking about how great Trump is and more time about how to get most of the other candidates to co-opt the important elements of Trump's immigration philosophy into their campaigns. Of course, Jeb and Graham won't go along with the idea, but others might. Cruz is almost there in some respects, Walker maybe, though I don't know how much I can trust him at this point. Fiorina might be possible.

    Just a reality check: It's very unlikely that Trump will be the next president of the United States...even if it means that a straight ahead socialist will. I suspect that Americans still haven't abandoned the idea of having a president who's "presidential."

    Cruz is almost there in some respects, Walker maybe, though I don’t know how much I can trust him at this point. Fiorina might be possible.

    Cruz the 325,000 H-1Bs a year guy whose wife is Goldman Sachs, Walker who just recently got religion, and Fiorina who thinks Americans have no right to jobs is going to actually change their minds and alienate their billionaire backers and follow through if they get elected? You mean you want a repeat of the past 10 elections where the politician says something and does something else once in office? Is that what being Presidential means?

    • Replies: @J1234
    "Cruz is almost there in some respects," is not the same as "Cruz is the guy we should support." He has a long way to go.

    Presidential isn't what I want...but I strongly suspect that it's what most Americans want. It's a bit of an abstract notion, but try transporting yourself ahead a year from now. Imagine all of the existing TV sound bytes of Donald Trump that show him in a negative light - there are thousands of them from 30 years in the public eye. Now, imagine moderate conservatives and conservative independents - there are tens of millions of them - being bombarded 24 hours a day with those negative off the cuff remarks Donald has made over the years. Donald isn't electable in the general election.

    I have none of the moronic Glenn Beck style antipathy towards Trump. Who do I want to be president? As of right now...Donald Trump. But like Pat Buchanan, it ain't gonna happen, so why try to make it happen? It just isn't realistic.

    But his candidacy is the most important candidacy of the last half century. Why? Not because he might be president, but because he has a real chance to force the hand of those who are electable on an issue that is the most important of our generation. An issue that has either been ignored by most or manipulated by the left to literally bring down our country.

  82. @Whiskey
    Similarly OT, Germany will accept 800,000 refugees a year. That will not end well. Most East Germans feel themselves oppressed by half a century of Communism and don't want to be last in line for government help. Much less minorities in their own country. And Communism bred a type of person who had to do things illegally just to survive. You can see this in the arson against refugee centers and supplies for refugees. Against say the regime of Erich Honecker, Angela Merkel is a marshmallow.

    This will not end well.

    “You can see this in the arson against refugee centers and supplies for refugees.”

    You gotta admit it’s hard to keep old Jerry down. A lot of them have been fighting in the Ukraine. I wouldn’t care to be the cause of those gents returning home angry.

  83. On a off-topic sidenote, I spotted this text of Peter Brimelow on Vdare about the “Trump wrecking ball”
    https://www.vdare.com/articles/the-trump-wrecking-ball-the-washington-cartel-and-the-jews

  84. • Replies: @Ron Unz
    http://www.unz.com/isteve/scott-dilbert-adams-on-trumps-sales-techniques/#comment-1074612
    , @Harry Baldwin
    How do you get this? The article is about the minimum wage.
    , @MarkinLA
    Unz made the claim that raising the minimum wage would cause some employers to hire Americans instead of illegals and there is some logic to it but I think he is far too unrealistic.

    First of all there is virtually no penalty to hiring an illegal alien. If they bring you a piece of paper showing they are here legally, regardless if you think it is fake, there is nothing the government can do to you and you might even be guilty of discrimination if you don't hire him. No employer is required to use E-Verify. Only if there is a consistent pattern of you violating the immigration laws like some companies did when they actually told the illegals where to get their phony paperwork then you might be subject to the RICO statutes. However, it is almost never used. You are more likely to be sued by the legal employees for depressed wages in a class action suit like Mohawk Industries.

    There are numerous other reasons an illegal is hired over an American - the biggest being that they can be cheated with relative impunity. Even if they are not cheated they can be treated like dirt and given all the crap jobs or crap shifts. When I was a teen there were almost no fast food places staying open all night long. There simply weren't enough people desperate enough to take such a crappy job for that lousy pay. Now almost every one I see has at least a 24 hour drive through. I don't think having a Taco Bell open at 3:00 AM is a good enough trade-off for having to support tens if not hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens in LA schools.
  85. @Pat Casey
    Yep. Buchanan is right there with Ben Franklin for best americans in politics to not make it Prez. Tangentially I'm reminded of John Zmirak (whatever happened to him?) referring to wistfully watching every year Pat's speech at the 92 Convention, and now I do too. Which also reminds me of Tom Piatak's full blown frontal assault against VD Hanson's negative review of Pat's book The Unnecessary War. And come to think of it, that's when Zmirak really nixed his chance at mainstreamdom, as I seem to recall him burning his bridges with Scott McConnell and AmConMag over their review of it. anyways...

    I found myself thinking about John Zmirak the other day as well. He hasn’t written anything for Taki’s since 2009, and I can’t recall anything else besides maybe a few guest pieces for Chronicles. From what I recall, he was very upset at the Catholic Church’s transmogrification into an arm of the Mexican government and cultural Marxism. Maybe the election of Francis caused him to completely give up hope?

    I also remember around that time pretty much all the old Taki’s people cut their ties with AmConMag. And I can’t blame them, that rag is a pathetic shell of it’s former self.

    • Replies: @Pat Casey
    Wow was it really that long ago? AmConMag did have a moment when it seemed perhaps too interesting not to make a material difference, somehow. And maybe it has. I guess they got Larison, who tries hard, has gotten better at not being interminable, might one day break onto the NYT op-ed page, but just aint in the same league with Walt and Mearsheimer, and there are only so many reading-minutes in a day. But checking in just now I see a good post about fanatical physicists and a fairly astute review of the Buckley-Vidal flick, which I hope Steve reviews. Zmirak should make his mission ceaseless advocating for the canonization of G.K. Chesterton, who once wrote:

    Spiritually, then, we hold that a healthy man does not demand cosmopolitanism, and does not demand empire. He demands something which is more or less roughly represented by Nationalism. That is to say, he demands a particular relation to some homogeneous community of manageable and imaginable size, large enough to inspire his reverence by its hold on history, small enough to inspire his affection by its hold on himself. If we were gods planning a perfect planet, if we were poets inventing a Utopia, we should divide the world into communities of this unity and moderate size. It is, therefore, not true to say of us that a cosmopolitan humanity is a far-off ideal; it is not an ideal at all for us, but a nightmare.
     
  86. @MarkinLA
    I guess it is still around.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo

    As a Tucson, AZ, native (circa 1946-1963) , I’d be shocked if a Tucsonian would know a Jew (or care) if they fell over one. They hung out in Phoenix. Hell, I didn’t know what a synagogue was until we moved to L.A. Given the clientele here, I’m thinking 2009 (when this Youtube was posted) isn’t much different.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    The reform temple in tucson dates from 1910, the conservative synagogue from the 1930's
    , @MarkinLA
    These were a bunch of drunks having fun signing along to a funny song - grab him by the horns!! and Cohen tried to make this out as some form of closet NAZIs just waiting to gas the first Jew they saw.
    , @Ivy
    Tucson residents need only head to the U of A campus to see a lot of SoCal tribe representatives.
  87. @Anonym
    So what's the formula?

    I’m only half joking… my guess it is non-linear.

    5-7 good articles = 8 hrs with no sleep debt and max coffee intake. Or UK riots style news flurry.

    Nothing, or submit a non-time-critical golf article saved from earlier effort – 4 hours sleep and coffee detox.

    In between… some curves.

    A really good formula would take into account previous days coffee intake and sleep debt. Something like the Syndicate algorithm. Classic game.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Yeah, that's about right, with sleep debt working kind of paradoxically. Sometimes, 4 hours of sleep can lead to a lot of blogging because the I start out tired enough to say "Good enough idea -- Post it!" And once I post something, I usually keep coming back and fixing it until it turns out pretty decent, even it it wasn't much to start with.

    But if I follow up 4 hours of sleep with 8 hours of sleep, I usually don't get much done because I'm still in sleep debt but not enough to lower my standards enough to post much.

  88. @Lugash
    Early polls might be representing more of what Spengler called a “wish picture for the future” than a serious commitment to a serious candidate.) I’d hate to see our hopes die with Trump’s campaign.

    It sounds like you've got a wish picture of the future about the GOP establishment with respect to immigration. Charitably I would call it a dream or fantasy, but it's more of a delusion. Or masochism. "Graham and Boehner are really going to listen to the Republican base _this_ time!".

    Trump, warts and all, is the last chance we've got. Even if he implodes, he has sent a message to the GOP elite.

    It sounds like you’ve got a wish picture of the future about the GOP establishment with respect to immigration.

    Cruz is GOP establishment? Huh, I didn’t know that. Listen, Trump’s fight with the RNC and mainstream Repubs has our focus right now, but it’s all subordinate to the fight with the Democrats in the final showdown. You need to understand that I’m a person who spends a great deal of time defending Trump’s positions on immigration to the world at large. Defending his positions is hard enough. Defending Trump the persona to independents and moderates will be much harder in a year or so.

    Anything’s possible…and that includes Trump becoming president…but we haven’t even remotely got to the nastiest part of the campaigning yet. This has nothing at all to do with my wishes, this has to do with reality. If you believe a majority of Americans – who just put BO into office twice – are going to vote for Trump for president in Nov. 2016, you’re not dealing with reality.

    MY wish picture is that they would vote for Trump. But they won’t. They probably won’t go for Cruz, either…I mention him because he’s another candidate who has some tough points on immigration that could influence other Repub. candidates.

    If the other Repub. candidates don’t adopt Trump’s immigration philosophy and he doesn’t get the nomination, we’re sunk, because Donald will start a third party. That means the Democrats are sure to win, given the split on immigration on the right.

    If the others adopt Trump’s essential immigr. philosophy, however, his third party candidacy will be dead in the water, because voters will go for someone who has good conservative immigr. policies and is more electable in the general election. Convincing most of the other dozen candidates to accept Trump’s immigr. stance will be much easier than convincing millions of moderate conservatives to vote for the Donald.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    …Donald will start a third party. That means the Democrats are sure to win, given the split on immigration on the right.
     
    Not necessarily. Immigration is a disaster for labor and the environment, a huge chunk of the Democratic vote. An indy Trump could destabilize the Rust Belt and the green northern corners of the country-- which have a long history of support for third parties-- and throw the election into the House for the first time since eighteen-whatever. This would put restrictionists in the driver's seat.

    The Donald would have to follow the strategy of George Wallace, who attempted to do this and nearly succeeded. Ross Perot stupidly didn't. He finished second in two states, first in none, and finished with fewer electors than John Hospers got when he ran.
    , @Lagertha
    I predict DT will win the nomination.
  89. @J1234
    Hey you guys, I like what Trump is saying a hell of a lot, too, but I think the paleoconservative and conservative immigration movements are falling in love with Trump too much too early in the game. We need to detach Trump the person from the very solid immigration opinions/solutions he's expressing.

    If the man and those immigration solutions become too synonymous, then those solutions may not transfer over to whoever the Republican nominee is (and, I hate to tell you this, but it probably won't be Trump. Why not? Early polls might be representing more of what Spengler called a "wish picture for the future" than a serious commitment to a serious candidate.) I'd hate to see our hopes die with Trump's campaign.

    We should spend less time talking about how great Trump is and more time about how to get most of the other candidates to co-opt the important elements of Trump's immigration philosophy into their campaigns. Of course, Jeb and Graham won't go along with the idea, but others might. Cruz is almost there in some respects, Walker maybe, though I don't know how much I can trust him at this point. Fiorina might be possible.

    Just a reality check: It's very unlikely that Trump will be the next president of the United States...even if it means that a straight ahead socialist will. I suspect that Americans still haven't abandoned the idea of having a president who's "presidential."

    We should spend less time talking about how great Trump is and more time about how to get most of the other candidates to co-opt the important elements of Trump’s immigration philosophy into their campaigns. Of course, Jeb and Graham won’t go along with the idea….

    On Monday, Graham came out against birthright citizenship, so you never know.

    • Replies: @J1234
    The best that Graham could ever be is another Mitt Romney - sounding tough during the primaries, then changing dramatically once he got the nomination. More likely he'd be far worse, IMO. But, if Trump can help get all the Repub. candidates on the same page, more or less, on immigration, they'd be less likely to change their tune if nominated. I do welcome Graham's announcement, but he and Jeb aren't even remotely trustworthy.
  90. @Steve Sailer
    And he's like 6'3" and broad-shouldered.

    And he’s like 6’3″ and broad-shouldered.

    So is Boy George– 6’4″, in fact. He comes from a clan of Irish boxers and could have been one himself.

    It would be great fun to watch Mr Baron Cohen and Mr O’Dowd go at it in the ring, with Mr Sailer as referee.

    It’d be equistatural, like the Minneapolis skyline.

  91. @Anonym
    I'm only half joking... my guess it is non-linear.

    5-7 good articles = 8 hrs with no sleep debt and max coffee intake. Or UK riots style news flurry.

    Nothing, or submit a non-time-critical golf article saved from earlier effort - 4 hours sleep and coffee detox.

    In between... some curves.

    A really good formula would take into account previous days coffee intake and sleep debt. Something like the Syndicate algorithm. Classic game.

    Yeah, that’s about right, with sleep debt working kind of paradoxically. Sometimes, 4 hours of sleep can lead to a lot of blogging because the I start out tired enough to say “Good enough idea — Post it!” And once I post something, I usually keep coming back and fixing it until it turns out pretty decent, even it it wasn’t much to start with.

    But if I follow up 4 hours of sleep with 8 hours of sleep, I usually don’t get much done because I’m still in sleep debt but not enough to lower my standards enough to post much.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    That was amusing. Thanks. Makes sense.

    I wish I could come up with an algorithm that would indicate what I need to consume to begin a job I have put off for a long time. Usually my brain has made an accurate estimate of the time it will take and I begin roughly around the deadline less the time it should take.

    Stupid brain. Why can't I just start things earlier.
  92. @Whiskey
    Similarly OT, Germany will accept 800,000 refugees a year. That will not end well. Most East Germans feel themselves oppressed by half a century of Communism and don't want to be last in line for government help. Much less minorities in their own country. And Communism bred a type of person who had to do things illegally just to survive. You can see this in the arson against refugee centers and supplies for refugees. Against say the regime of Erich Honecker, Angela Merkel is a marshmallow.

    This will not end well.

    “This will not end well.”

    I read recently that Sweden started liberalizing their immigration laws and admitting Africans and Middle Easterners in 1974. That was 41 years ago! And they are still coming in. I have a friend whom I have known for 25 years. She is Swedish and came to the U.S. when she was 21, more than 40 years ago. She goes back to visit her sister every summer. As long as I have known her, we have talked about the insane influx of non-white immigrants, many Muslim, into Sweden, which we both consider utterly insane. If they haven’t woken up to their dilemma after 41 years, you wonder if they will ever wake up.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    As a Finn, I can't understand the Swedes and their seppuku (not Finnish, btw). I can appreciate Kevin Mc's splaination about Protestant guilt sweeping Sweden these days.
  93. Fox News is getting a lot of mileage out of an answer Donald Trump gave when a reporter asked him who’s advising him on military matters. Trump said he watches “news shows” and likes John Bolton and Col. Jack Jacobs. Okay, not very encouraging, but Jeb Bush’s chief foreign-policy adviser is Paul Wolfowitz. Isn’t that a lot scarier?

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    once President, the Joint Chief of Staff members are ready to advise. Before that, there is any number of people to meet with any candidate to cover military matters. DC is a small town.
  94. @matt

    How do you get this? The article is about the minimum wage.

  95. @Steve Sailer
    Yeah, that's about right, with sleep debt working kind of paradoxically. Sometimes, 4 hours of sleep can lead to a lot of blogging because the I start out tired enough to say "Good enough idea -- Post it!" And once I post something, I usually keep coming back and fixing it until it turns out pretty decent, even it it wasn't much to start with.

    But if I follow up 4 hours of sleep with 8 hours of sleep, I usually don't get much done because I'm still in sleep debt but not enough to lower my standards enough to post much.

    That was amusing. Thanks. Makes sense.

    I wish I could come up with an algorithm that would indicate what I need to consume to begin a job I have put off for a long time. Usually my brain has made an accurate estimate of the time it will take and I begin roughly around the deadline less the time it should take.

    Stupid brain. Why can’t I just start things earlier.

  96. @Travis
    Rachel Dolezal did not start to transition until she was over 30 years old.

    While in Grad School Dolezal sued Howard University in 2003 for discriminating against her for being white. She claimed retaliation based on her race and gender, saying she had been denied teaching positions and scholarship aid. She also complained that some of her artwork had been removed from an exhibition because black students were being favored. A judge, and subsequently an appeals court, found no basis for her claims in 2004.
    No one questioned whether she was black, said David Smedley, an associate professor of sculpture and coordinator of Howard’s sculpture program, who was her thesis adviser at the university. “She was a blue-eyed blond woman.”

    She divorced he Black husband in 2005 and eventually moved to Spokane, where she quickly transitioned into an African-American at the age of 31 in 2007

    I haven’t seen the documentation of her college claim. Given that it was at a black college, however, and given that black-on-black racism is a problem (blacks call it “colorism”), she COULD have been complaining that her “fellow” blacks were discriminating against her because she was “hi-yalla”. In other words, because she was an extremely light-skinned black, and were calling her (ugh!) “white”. If this was the core of her discrimination claim, her transracial color shift would have happened earlier than attending college.

    This is a subtlety that would be lost on most rightwing white folks, since black folks like to keep their dirty linen a secret from white folks. Hence the special black-only name for black racism.

    • Replies: @Travis
    no , Rachel was seen by all at Howard as a White female. Her lawsuit specifically stated she was discriminated against for being a White female. A quick google search will show her wedding photos from 2003 when she had straight blonde hair and very white skin. This was the same year she sued Howard University

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/06/15/rachel-dolezal-sued-howard-for-racial-discrimination-because-she-was-white/

    While at Howard Dolezal was blue eyed Blonde and did not perm her hair or dye her skin.
    Her transition started after she divorced her husband around 2006 and she moved to Spokane to transition in a city with few Blacks.
  97. @grey enlightenment2
    malcom gladwell really let himself go

    http://weeklygravy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/rachel_dolezal_-_savannah_guthrie_5_1920_112167023-copy-e1435005601924-1024x668.jpg

    She just needed 10,000 hours of practice to be black.

  98. @Anonymous Nephew
    OT - BBC Radio were saying yesterday that Sweden and Germany were taking the lion's share of the current wave of "asylum seekers". Germany granted 200,000 asylum claims last year, Sweden 75,000. It's not got that big a population. Now the Swedish Democrats are the most popular party.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/sweden/11814498/Anti-immigrant-Sweden-Democrats-now-the-biggest-party-according-to-poll.html

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24583286

    Germany’s talking about seizing people’s homes for the invaders. Somehow I don’t see it ending well.

  99. @Jim Don Bob
    Sash Baron-Cohen was hilarious in The Dictator. His Ali-G movie is pretty funny too.

    So-So as the Dictator. I haven’t seen the Ali-G movie.

  100. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Here is Jay Smooth of Race Forward as a guest on MSNBC. He is another pale brother with grievances who has to suffer what must be the cruelest of indignities for him– being mistaken as a white guy, co-opting black culture, live on-air:

    Notice the white liberal host cackling away at what is obviously a pride-shattering moment for the activist. “Why are you co-opting, Jay?”

  101. @Steve Sailer
    Trump looked taller than the quite large Bill Clinton in some golf course photos, although I suspect Trump uses his old military academy posture to stand tall when the cameras are clicking, especially when he's standing near an ex-President.

    Trump is so stout that he looks shorter. He has no neck and broad shoulders.

  102. @Travis
    "As you know, I know how to build. I know how to get it done. We'll call it the Great Wall of Trump. We'll have a great wall and it will be - it'll be actually -- it can be a good-looking wall, as walls go, but we will have a really terrific wall and it will be done for the right price."

    Hoping he puts some waterfalls along the Great Wall of Trump....he could also sell advertising , sell billboard space the the highest bidders to generate some monthly income from the Great Wall.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/08/20/trump_on_border_well_call_it_the_great_wall_of_trump.html

    "you look at the Great Wall of China that was built 2,500 years ago. It's 13,000 miles. And we're really talking about something more than a little more than 1,000 miles. So it is something that can be absolutely done, not done at tremendous cost."-Donald Trump

    Combine Sailer’s idea with Trumps. Build a wall then build high quality, high security homes in a strip say a mile or so along the border. Then give the homes to ex military and police who will agree to act as border guards in return for the home.

    Extend retirement for that job to say 75 and make sure they have options afterward. The household would have to have at least one guy willing to meet the standards and open carry. If you build it right the illegals would have to be crossing lots of yards with lots of large dogs and guys with guns.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    with a mouth full of laughs and guffaws, I am ready to catch some sleep after that vision!
  103. @MarkinLA
    We should spend less time talking about how great Trump is and more time about how to get most of the other candidates to co-opt the important elements of Trump’s immigration philosophy into their campaigns.

    Sorry to burst your bubble but this is wishful thinking. Everybody else is waiting and hoping Trump burns out so they can go back to ignoring the immigration issue. Nothing but Trump can make them change their positions. The people backing those puppets aren't going to let them get behind real immigration reform and people constantly saying Trump is not a viable candidate gives the billionaires reason to continue to hold on and dump more money into the coffers of people like Jeb.

    If the establishment wants to take the wind out of Trump’s sails all they need to do is take his positions on the border, immigration etc. But they won’t they’d rather lose than do that.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    You're right. But not only would they not do it, at this point no one would believe them if they pretended to because most of us now "get it." Their paymasters won't stand for it. Only a self-financed guy like Trump can afford to say what he does. And I'm sure there are buildings full of clever people working overtime to figure out how to destroy him.
  104. @Dave Pinsen
    He made me laugh when, as Borat, he offered Bob Barr a piece of cheese, and then, while Barr was chewing on it, Borat told him the cheese was made from his wife's breast milk.

    No laughs from me on that one. The funny thing is that after invading numerous peoples spaces and privacy he (Baron Cohen) and his wife are very private themselves. They remain cloistered away in comparison to most showbiz couples.

  105. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    Over the Hillary?

  106. @Anonymous
    I've stood next to both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump (at different times). Clinton's height was surprising and didn't seem to be under 6'4". And I would have guessed Trump is also 6'4". I know they are both listed as 6'3" but they both seem taller in real life.

    On another subject, I find it interesting that both Trump and Clinton sleep just 4 hours a night. Same with Martha Stewart and a lot of high energy achievers. If I get under 7 hours I'm a brain-dead grumpy zombie.

    Clinton and Trump are both around 6’1″/6’2″. John Kerry is taller than both and he’s a solid 6’4″.

    • Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
    "John Kerry is taller than both and he’s a solid 6’4″.
    Kerry has 4" of "stellar" hair. This brings him down to about six real feet.
    , @Anonymous

    Clinton and Trump are both around 6’1″/6’2″. John Kerry is taller than both and he’s a solid 6’4″.
     
    No, you are 100% wrong about the 6'1"/6'2". For some reason I had thought Clinton was 6'2" before I met him. I was really surprised how much taller he seemed (I have met athletes listed as 6'3" and they seemed shorter). Trump is a solid 6'3" and has some extra body mass (if you're in your 60's and over 6'0", not being chunky it looks unhealthy).
    Believe it or not, I have stood right beside John Kerry numerous times (Trump and Clinton each only once). Trump and Clinton seem to be about/almost as tall as Kerry. Though Clinton and Trump walked like peacocks, like they had studied the Alexander Technique of body movement. Kerry is slumped and is a little hobbled with a metal plate in his hip (I recall him mentioning all of his ice hockey injuries).
  107. @landonp
    As a Tucson, AZ, native (circa 1946-1963) , I'd be shocked if a Tucsonian would know a Jew (or care) if they fell over one. They hung out in Phoenix. Hell, I didn't know what a synagogue was until we moved to L.A. Given the clientele here, I'm thinking 2009 (when this Youtube was posted) isn't much different.

    The reform temple in tucson dates from 1910, the conservative synagogue from the 1930’s

  108. @MarkinLA
    We should spend less time talking about how great Trump is and more time about how to get most of the other candidates to co-opt the important elements of Trump’s immigration philosophy into their campaigns.

    Sorry to burst your bubble but this is wishful thinking. Everybody else is waiting and hoping Trump burns out so they can go back to ignoring the immigration issue. Nothing but Trump can make them change their positions. The people backing those puppets aren't going to let them get behind real immigration reform and people constantly saying Trump is not a viable candidate gives the billionaires reason to continue to hold on and dump more money into the coffers of people like Jeb.

    Exactly. I AM A bona fide “anchor baby,” and, I am grateful that Trump is astute enough to realize (opportunistically or not) what mass immigration (presently in Europe, and, in the future, the US from Africa & Middle East/Asia,) has cost the American public during these last 7-15 years…and will be at odds soon (H1B visa drones) with recent American STEM college grads.

    I know Trump is smart, and, I will attach my boat to his yacht for now while he is behaving like a normal person (take note). Also, on a wild tangent: I am getting a kick out of so many people denigrating Trump (watching the MSM news right now) not realizing: that only creates more curiosity about him for people who don’t know who he was in the 80’s and why he is running for president! The long drought of Trump running now, again, for president should be national news whether all the parties like it or not! He kinda’ is Henry VIII.

  109. @Harry Baldwin
    Fox News is getting a lot of mileage out of an answer Donald Trump gave when a reporter asked him who's advising him on military matters. Trump said he watches "news shows" and likes John Bolton and Col. Jack Jacobs. Okay, not very encouraging, but Jeb Bush's chief foreign-policy adviser is Paul Wolfowitz. Isn't that a lot scarier?

    once President, the Joint Chief of Staff members are ready to advise. Before that, there is any number of people to meet with any candidate to cover military matters. DC is a small town.

  110. @TWS
    Combine Sailer's idea with Trumps. Build a wall then build high quality, high security homes in a strip say a mile or so along the border. Then give the homes to ex military and police who will agree to act as border guards in return for the home.

    Extend retirement for that job to say 75 and make sure they have options afterward. The household would have to have at least one guy willing to meet the standards and open carry. If you build it right the illegals would have to be crossing lots of yards with lots of large dogs and guys with guns.

    with a mouth full of laughs and guffaws, I am ready to catch some sleep after that vision!

  111. By boldly and plainly laying out what he will do regarding immigration, Trump was able to in one stroke completely destroy whatever chance the rest of the Republican field had of being duplicitous. Candidates such as Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and to a lesser degree Scott Walker held an appeal for immigration patriots because they MIGHT possibly do something, anything, to control immigration. All of them knew the American people’s plight and would hint and suggest possible actions as a way of giving what was probably a false hope while simultaneously licking Sheldon Adelson’s fingers. The fact that there is so much groaning and wailing coming from the mass immigration types should tell us that these proposals, if enacted, will largely work.

  112. @tbraton
    "This will not end well."

    I read recently that Sweden started liberalizing their immigration laws and admitting Africans and Middle Easterners in 1974. That was 41 years ago! And they are still coming in. I have a friend whom I have known for 25 years. She is Swedish and came to the U.S. when she was 21, more than 40 years ago. She goes back to visit her sister every summer. As long as I have known her, we have talked about the insane influx of non-white immigrants, many Muslim, into Sweden, which we both consider utterly insane. If they haven't woken up to their dilemma after 41 years, you wonder if they will ever wake up.

    As a Finn, I can’t understand the Swedes and their seppuku (not Finnish, btw). I can appreciate Kevin Mc’s splaination about Protestant guilt sweeping Sweden these days.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    As a Finn, I can’t understand the Swedes and their seppuku (not Finnish, btw).

    Confusion would be understandable: "A puukko is a small traditional Finnish belt knife with a single curving cutting edge and a flat back."
  113. @J1234

    It sounds like you’ve got a wish picture of the future about the GOP establishment with respect to immigration.
     
    Cruz is GOP establishment? Huh, I didn't know that. Listen, Trump's fight with the RNC and mainstream Repubs has our focus right now, but it's all subordinate to the fight with the Democrats in the final showdown. You need to understand that I'm a person who spends a great deal of time defending Trump's positions on immigration to the world at large. Defending his positions is hard enough. Defending Trump the persona to independents and moderates will be much harder in a year or so.

    Anything's possible...and that includes Trump becoming president...but we haven't even remotely got to the nastiest part of the campaigning yet. This has nothing at all to do with my wishes, this has to do with reality. If you believe a majority of Americans - who just put BO into office twice - are going to vote for Trump for president in Nov. 2016, you're not dealing with reality.

    MY wish picture is that they would vote for Trump. But they won't. They probably won't go for Cruz, either...I mention him because he's another candidate who has some tough points on immigration that could influence other Repub. candidates.

    If the other Repub. candidates don't adopt Trump's immigration philosophy and he doesn't get the nomination, we're sunk, because Donald will start a third party. That means the Democrats are sure to win, given the split on immigration on the right.

    If the others adopt Trump's essential immigr. philosophy, however, his third party candidacy will be dead in the water, because voters will go for someone who has good conservative immigr. policies and is more electable in the general election. Convincing most of the other dozen candidates to accept Trump's immigr. stance will be much easier than convincing millions of moderate conservatives to vote for the Donald.

    …Donald will start a third party. That means the Democrats are sure to win, given the split on immigration on the right.

    Not necessarily. Immigration is a disaster for labor and the environment, a huge chunk of the Democratic vote. An indy Trump could destabilize the Rust Belt and the green northern corners of the country– which have a long history of support for third parties– and throw the election into the House for the first time since eighteen-whatever. This would put restrictionists in the driver’s seat.

    The Donald would have to follow the strategy of George Wallace, who attempted to do this and nearly succeeded. Ross Perot stupidly didn’t. He finished second in two states, first in none, and finished with fewer electors than John Hospers got when he ran.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    If the election goes to the House of Representatives, how do they vote? By individual Representative or by state?
  114. @J1234

    It sounds like you’ve got a wish picture of the future about the GOP establishment with respect to immigration.
     
    Cruz is GOP establishment? Huh, I didn't know that. Listen, Trump's fight with the RNC and mainstream Repubs has our focus right now, but it's all subordinate to the fight with the Democrats in the final showdown. You need to understand that I'm a person who spends a great deal of time defending Trump's positions on immigration to the world at large. Defending his positions is hard enough. Defending Trump the persona to independents and moderates will be much harder in a year or so.

    Anything's possible...and that includes Trump becoming president...but we haven't even remotely got to the nastiest part of the campaigning yet. This has nothing at all to do with my wishes, this has to do with reality. If you believe a majority of Americans - who just put BO into office twice - are going to vote for Trump for president in Nov. 2016, you're not dealing with reality.

    MY wish picture is that they would vote for Trump. But they won't. They probably won't go for Cruz, either...I mention him because he's another candidate who has some tough points on immigration that could influence other Repub. candidates.

    If the other Repub. candidates don't adopt Trump's immigration philosophy and he doesn't get the nomination, we're sunk, because Donald will start a third party. That means the Democrats are sure to win, given the split on immigration on the right.

    If the others adopt Trump's essential immigr. philosophy, however, his third party candidacy will be dead in the water, because voters will go for someone who has good conservative immigr. policies and is more electable in the general election. Convincing most of the other dozen candidates to accept Trump's immigr. stance will be much easier than convincing millions of moderate conservatives to vote for the Donald.

    I predict DT will win the nomination.

  115. @MarkinLA
    I guess it is still around.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo

    ROTFL

  116. @Jim
    Nowhere in the article on unz review does he say any such thing. He does refer to US destabilization of the Middle East as contributing to the flow of refugees. That's true although immigration into the West is of course also driven by economic factors independent of US intervention. But Robert's references to US destabilization of the Middle East as contributing to refugee flow is prety much along the same lines as Steve's "Invade the world, invite the world" theme.

    “Invading, but not inviting” is a position one could take. Perhaps not the best, but maybe an improvement over our current policy. The British empire did last for a while, after all.

  117. Last thought: I am definitely being nationally (duo-nationally) selfish about wanting to see a President Trump take on Putin in the near future! Think about it!!! whose got the hotter wife?! the better body (T has to start working out,) who looks younger? How many network TV studios across the world would not see this as the most lucrative 4 years of news in their (directors, producers, presidents of networks and shareholders) career lifetime? And, Putin, may just play along with this since he loves the camera and knows which angles make him look good.

  118. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    Suppressed by the Lib-run media. Old white woman robbed and punched by ‘unarmed youths’.

  119. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    In IMITATION OF LIFE, a black woman pretends to be white and denies her black ancestry.

    With all this ‘blacks are cool’, and ‘blacks are noble’ crap, we have IOL going the opposite direction.

    But the most ridiculous is all these whites pretending to be hononary Zionists. The ‘cuckservatives’ and Zuck-serve-atives.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "In IMITATION OF LIFE, a black woman pretends to be white and denies her black ancestry."

    The reason that so-called "African American" woman was able to successfully pass for White is because she was played an actress who is half Czech Jew and half Mexican.
  120. @Svigor

    At first the crowd (obviously somewhat drunk) were kind of shocked and didn’t do anything. However, Borat kept encouraging them to sing along and the song and especially the chorus was catchy. Eventually, the crowd was singing along and laughing with the lyrics. Later Cohen used this when he was ranting about anti-semitism.
     
    Does Baron-Cohen do the same thing to Jews? If not, he's a misanthrope, which is far worse than antisemitism.

    In that episode, Ali G pitched the ice cream idea to a number of of Wall Street-type investors. Overall the businessmen (and women), were much less indulgent of his idiocy than the typical politician or public figure that he interviews. One of the investors even told him “this may be the worst idea I’ve ever heard.”
     
    Business is inherently authoritarian.

    Does Baron-Cohen do the same thing to Jews? If not, he’s a misanthrope, which is far worse than antisemitism.

    I’m not sure this counts but the moment when they clap at the end caused me to spit out my glass of water all over the table.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rofVFJ9PoXE

  121. @Reg Cæsar

    …Donald will start a third party. That means the Democrats are sure to win, given the split on immigration on the right.
     
    Not necessarily. Immigration is a disaster for labor and the environment, a huge chunk of the Democratic vote. An indy Trump could destabilize the Rust Belt and the green northern corners of the country-- which have a long history of support for third parties-- and throw the election into the House for the first time since eighteen-whatever. This would put restrictionists in the driver's seat.

    The Donald would have to follow the strategy of George Wallace, who attempted to do this and nearly succeeded. Ross Perot stupidly didn't. He finished second in two states, first in none, and finished with fewer electors than John Hospers got when he ran.

    If the election goes to the House of Representatives, how do they vote? By individual Representative or by state?

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    By state. California's delegation has one vote, Wyoming's has one vote, etc. Right now, the GOP candidate could not lose such and election. So Trump couldn't win unless that were him.
  122. @Anonymous
    Clinton and Trump are both around 6'1"/6'2". John Kerry is taller than both and he's a solid 6'4".

    “John Kerry is taller than both and he’s a solid 6’4″.
    Kerry has 4” of “stellar” hair. This brings him down to about six real feet.

  123. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @MarkinLA
    I remember one skit his other Borat character did in a honky-tonk bar somewhere in cow country. He sang a song about a Jew stealing his money and not giving it back. It was actually quite catchy and had a chorus about dumping the Jew down a well.

    At first the crowd (obviously somewhat drunk) were kind of shocked and didn't do anything. However, Borat kept encouraging them to sing along and the song and especially the chorus was catchy. Eventually, the crowd was singing along and laughing with the lyrics. Later Cohen used this when he was ranting about anti-semitism.

    There have been several public renditions of the “throw the Jew down the well” song in the history of the Borat TV sketches. Each time it is obvious he’s encouraging the crowd to join, which they invariably do, with some mixture of awkwardness and enthusiasm not betraying any serious opinion about the lyrics. The movie’s scene took place in country/western bar of the Sex Pistols ’77-78 U.S. tour variety; once the offensive portion of the song begins the hicks are shown looking nervously at each other but do find the chorus very funny for whatever reason. Reviewing the film via just this one scene Martin Peretz declared it a “chilling” piece of documentary footage, a self-parodic reaction more comical than the Borat scene itself.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    "Reviewing the film via just this one scene Martin Peretz declared it a “chilling” piece of documentary footage, a self-parodic reaction more comical than the Borat scene itself."

    Well, it is well known that the former owner of The New Republic, who bought the NR with his wealthy wife's money, was clearly anti-Semitic---the only thing was that the Semites he was strongly against were the Arabs. The original Jews are cousins of the Arabs, and they are both Semites, just different tribes. In fact, just like the Greeks, the Jews obtained their alphabet, their system of writing, from the Phoenicians, the ancestors of today's Lebanese.
  124. @Bert
    I found myself thinking about John Zmirak the other day as well. He hasn't written anything for Taki's since 2009, and I can't recall anything else besides maybe a few guest pieces for Chronicles. From what I recall, he was very upset at the Catholic Church's transmogrification into an arm of the Mexican government and cultural Marxism. Maybe the election of Francis caused him to completely give up hope?

    I also remember around that time pretty much all the old Taki's people cut their ties with AmConMag. And I can't blame them, that rag is a pathetic shell of it's former self.

    Wow was it really that long ago? AmConMag did have a moment when it seemed perhaps too interesting not to make a material difference, somehow. And maybe it has. I guess they got Larison, who tries hard, has gotten better at not being interminable, might one day break onto the NYT op-ed page, but just aint in the same league with Walt and Mearsheimer, and there are only so many reading-minutes in a day. But checking in just now I see a good post about fanatical physicists and a fairly astute review of the Buckley-Vidal flick, which I hope Steve reviews. Zmirak should make his mission ceaseless advocating for the canonization of G.K. Chesterton, who once wrote:

    Spiritually, then, we hold that a healthy man does not demand cosmopolitanism, and does not demand empire. He demands something which is more or less roughly represented by Nationalism. That is to say, he demands a particular relation to some homogeneous community of manageable and imaginable size, large enough to inspire his reverence by its hold on history, small enough to inspire his affection by its hold on himself. If we were gods planning a perfect planet, if we were poets inventing a Utopia, we should divide the world into communities of this unity and moderate size. It is, therefore, not true to say of us that a cosmopolitan humanity is a far-off ideal; it is not an ideal at all for us, but a nightmare.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Indeed, why not canonize Chesterton? He was insanely clever, but used his cleverness for good rather than bad. For example, he didn't go praise to Russia to praise Stalin like his old clever rival GBS did in the 1930s.
  125. @Pat Casey
    Wow was it really that long ago? AmConMag did have a moment when it seemed perhaps too interesting not to make a material difference, somehow. And maybe it has. I guess they got Larison, who tries hard, has gotten better at not being interminable, might one day break onto the NYT op-ed page, but just aint in the same league with Walt and Mearsheimer, and there are only so many reading-minutes in a day. But checking in just now I see a good post about fanatical physicists and a fairly astute review of the Buckley-Vidal flick, which I hope Steve reviews. Zmirak should make his mission ceaseless advocating for the canonization of G.K. Chesterton, who once wrote:

    Spiritually, then, we hold that a healthy man does not demand cosmopolitanism, and does not demand empire. He demands something which is more or less roughly represented by Nationalism. That is to say, he demands a particular relation to some homogeneous community of manageable and imaginable size, large enough to inspire his reverence by its hold on history, small enough to inspire his affection by its hold on himself. If we were gods planning a perfect planet, if we were poets inventing a Utopia, we should divide the world into communities of this unity and moderate size. It is, therefore, not true to say of us that a cosmopolitan humanity is a far-off ideal; it is not an ideal at all for us, but a nightmare.
     

    Indeed, why not canonize Chesterton? He was insanely clever, but used his cleverness for good rather than bad. For example, he didn’t go praise to Russia to praise Stalin like his old clever rival GBS did in the 1930s.

    • Replies: @Pat Casey
    Chris Hitchens last big effort before he passed was this essay on Chesterton, which his editor at The Atlantic considered the one essay he really had to write before he was gone.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/03/the-reactionary/308889/

    Worth reading, but ends perfectly tendentiously. This one's better:

    http://www.newoxfordreview.org/reviews.jsp?did=0912-heady

    Was it the Mickey Kauss award? "I can write better than anyone who can write faster, and faster than anyone who can write better?" Maybe in the history of English letters, that would have to go to Chesterton. Their at a 36th volume of his collected works, which itself is over six hundred pages, which more to come. He only lived to 62. As a biological specimen of genius, the man was fascinating. He was absent-minded to the point of about being a danger to himself at times, but interestingly was not kin to Beethoven re cleaning habits. After living with Joe Sobran, I assumed all men of such caliber are innocent slobs. But the one probably really was a saint, so maybe that might mean something. And I was glad to be the one to give him what might have been Joe's favorite essay by Chesterton, St. Thomas More, which begins:


    Most would understand the phrase that the mind of More was like a diamond that a tyrant threw away into a ditch, because he could not break it. It is but a metaphor; but it does sometimes happen that the metaphor is many-sided, like the diamond. What moved the tyrant to a sort of terror of that mind was its clarity; it was the very reverse of a cloudy crystal filled only with opalescent dreams or visions of the past. The King and his great Chancellor had been companions as well as contemporaries; in many ways, both were Renaissance men; but in some ways, the man who was the more Catholic was the less medieval.
     
    I'm confident he will be canonized.
  126. @Jim Don Bob
    Sash Baron-Cohen was hilarious in The Dictator. His Ali-G movie is pretty funny too.

    His Ali-G movie is pretty funny too.

    The problem with the Ali G show was that he was always being a jerk to nice people and I kept hoping one of them would punch him in the nose. The show caused me stress, because I kept waiting for that payoff and it never happened.

  127. @TWS
    If the establishment wants to take the wind out of Trump's sails all they need to do is take his positions on the border, immigration etc. But they won't they'd rather lose than do that.

    You’re right. But not only would they not do it, at this point no one would believe them if they pretended to because most of us now “get it.” Their paymasters won’t stand for it. Only a self-financed guy like Trump can afford to say what he does. And I’m sure there are buildings full of clever people working overtime to figure out how to destroy him.

  128. @Lagertha
    As a Finn, I can't understand the Swedes and their seppuku (not Finnish, btw). I can appreciate Kevin Mc's splaination about Protestant guilt sweeping Sweden these days.

    As a Finn, I can’t understand the Swedes and their seppuku (not Finnish, btw).

    Confusion would be understandable: “A puukko is a small traditional Finnish belt knife with a single curving cutting edge and a flat back.”

  129. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Clinton and Trump are both around 6'1"/6'2". John Kerry is taller than both and he's a solid 6'4".

    Clinton and Trump are both around 6’1″/6’2″. John Kerry is taller than both and he’s a solid 6’4″.

    No, you are 100% wrong about the 6’1″/6’2″. For some reason I had thought Clinton was 6’2″ before I met him. I was really surprised how much taller he seemed (I have met athletes listed as 6’3″ and they seemed shorter). Trump is a solid 6’3″ and has some extra body mass (if you’re in your 60’s and over 6’0″, not being chunky it looks unhealthy).
    Believe it or not, I have stood right beside John Kerry numerous times (Trump and Clinton each only once). Trump and Clinton seem to be about/almost as tall as Kerry. Though Clinton and Trump walked like peacocks, like they had studied the Alexander Technique of body movement. Kerry is slumped and is a little hobbled with a metal plate in his hip (I recall him mentioning all of his ice hockey injuries).

  130. @landonp
    As a Tucson, AZ, native (circa 1946-1963) , I'd be shocked if a Tucsonian would know a Jew (or care) if they fell over one. They hung out in Phoenix. Hell, I didn't know what a synagogue was until we moved to L.A. Given the clientele here, I'm thinking 2009 (when this Youtube was posted) isn't much different.

    These were a bunch of drunks having fun signing along to a funny song – grab him by the horns!! and Cohen tried to make this out as some form of closet NAZIs just waiting to gas the first Jew they saw.

  131. @Steve Sailer
    Indeed, why not canonize Chesterton? He was insanely clever, but used his cleverness for good rather than bad. For example, he didn't go praise to Russia to praise Stalin like his old clever rival GBS did in the 1930s.

    Chris Hitchens last big effort before he passed was this essay on Chesterton, which his editor at The Atlantic considered the one essay he really had to write before he was gone.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/03/the-reactionary/308889/

    Worth reading, but ends perfectly tendentiously. This one’s better:

    http://www.newoxfordreview.org/reviews.jsp?did=0912-heady

    Was it the Mickey Kauss award? “I can write better than anyone who can write faster, and faster than anyone who can write better?” Maybe in the history of English letters, that would have to go to Chesterton. Their at a 36th volume of his collected works, which itself is over six hundred pages, which more to come. He only lived to 62. As a biological specimen of genius, the man was fascinating. He was absent-minded to the point of about being a danger to himself at times, but interestingly was not kin to Beethoven re cleaning habits. After living with Joe Sobran, I assumed all men of such caliber are innocent slobs. But the one probably really was a saint, so maybe that might mean something. And I was glad to be the one to give him what might have been Joe’s favorite essay by Chesterton, St. Thomas More, which begins:

    Most would understand the phrase that the mind of More was like a diamond that a tyrant threw away into a ditch, because he could not break it. It is but a metaphor; but it does sometimes happen that the metaphor is many-sided, like the diamond. What moved the tyrant to a sort of terror of that mind was its clarity; it was the very reverse of a cloudy crystal filled only with opalescent dreams or visions of the past. The King and his great Chancellor had been companions as well as contemporaries; in many ways, both were Renaissance men; but in some ways, the man who was the more Catholic was the less medieval.

    I’m confident he will be canonized.

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    You lived with Joe Sobran? Wow.

    He emailed me back a few times, when I'd send him a remarked about one of his columns. Struck me as a genuinely good guy.

    And his Alias Shakespeare was quite an eye-opener.
  132. @MarkinLA
    I remember one skit his other Borat character did in a honky-tonk bar somewhere in cow country. He sang a song about a Jew stealing his money and not giving it back. It was actually quite catchy and had a chorus about dumping the Jew down a well.

    At first the crowd (obviously somewhat drunk) were kind of shocked and didn't do anything. However, Borat kept encouraging them to sing along and the song and especially the chorus was catchy. Eventually, the crowd was singing along and laughing with the lyrics. Later Cohen used this when he was ranting about anti-semitism.

    I remember that scene well. The whole point of the skit was to make fun of friendly but unsophisticated white rubes. But rather than being anti-rube bigotry, that’s … anti-Semitism! Funny how that works.

  133. @Anonymous
    Baron - Cohen presented his Borax film at a special showing before a bunch of elderly Jewish ladies around the same time as his Sundance showing. They got all verklempt when they saw the "throw the Jews down the well" bit.

    The reporter who wrote the article talked about their freakout. It validated everything they knew about crazy white trash X-tians. Which, of course, they already believed, but it's nice when a good Jewish boy like Borat gets it down on tape.

    I noticed in that video that one of the most enthusiastic audience members singing “Throw the Jew down the well!” was a Hispanic woman. She got right into the spirit of it. Of course I wasn’t supposed to notice that.

  134. @landonp
    As a Tucson, AZ, native (circa 1946-1963) , I'd be shocked if a Tucsonian would know a Jew (or care) if they fell over one. They hung out in Phoenix. Hell, I didn't know what a synagogue was until we moved to L.A. Given the clientele here, I'm thinking 2009 (when this Youtube was posted) isn't much different.

    Tucson residents need only head to the U of A campus to see a lot of SoCal tribe representatives.

  135. @Lot
    Baron-Cohen shows how a white guy who wants to look plausibly black does it: short buzz cut, goatee, bright and loose fitting hip hop clothes. king wears those shiny oversized polyester looking button up shirts.

    Mentally, light skin and facial features say white, everything else codes black, and you mentally code as "slightly black" which in turn counts as much as fully black or else rayciss.

    Goatee especially is relevant as most black men can't grow good beards, especially when they are young.

    The NY Daily News has a pic of him as a kid. His mother is pale with curly dark brown hair, he is just as pale with very light brown hair. Not only is his father white, he is probably blond or light brown haired.

    His current color photos show the "healthy" ruddy peach color of most whites, not the unhealthy looking sallow light beige of 1/8 blacks. Bob Barr has this skin color, despite his straight hair and pale blue eyes it makes him look octoroonish. That's why he prefers the b&w photos, the paleness is plausibly part black, but not the peachy tone.

    The reason he got beat up is school is likely he is obviously white with a white brother (everyone knew in the small town) but used black slang and insisted he was black. There are a couple of them in every place where poor whites live around blacks.

    Baron-Cohen shows how a white guy who wants to look plausibly black does it: short buzz cut, goatee, bright and loose fitting hip hop clothes.

    Don’t forget the glasses. Both Ali G and Shauny K wear big black-framed glasses that no doubt draw the viewer’s attention away from their more Caucasian features.

  136. @Average Man
    OT: The Atlantic writes an article blaming Trump for a racist attack on a homeless man.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/a-trump-inspired-hate-crime-in-boston/401906/

    Boston Herald columnist Howie Carr blames the moonbat Red $ox owner, ubergeek John Henry.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/howie_carr/2015/08/carr_booze_bros_inspired_by_fenway_more_than_donald_trump

  137. @Anonymous
    I've stood next to both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump (at different times). Clinton's height was surprising and didn't seem to be under 6'4". And I would have guessed Trump is also 6'4". I know they are both listed as 6'3" but they both seem taller in real life.

    On another subject, I find it interesting that both Trump and Clinton sleep just 4 hours a night. Same with Martha Stewart and a lot of high energy achievers. If I get under 7 hours I'm a brain-dead grumpy zombie.

    Margaret Thatcher, too.

  138. @Steve Sailer
    If the election goes to the House of Representatives, how do they vote? By individual Representative or by state?

    By state. California’s delegation has one vote, Wyoming’s has one vote, etc. Right now, the GOP candidate could not lose such and election. So Trump couldn’t win unless that were him.

    • Replies: @James Kabala
    The Wallace plan would have relied on the then-viable, now-obsolete plan of convincing conservative Southern Democratic representatives to vote for him instead of Humphrey (or Nixon). Even then I don't know how he could have gotten to a majority of the states. Wallace, Perot, Trump, or indeed any third-party outsider candidate of either left or right would always would have a better chance with the people than with the politicians.
  139. @Pat Casey
    Chris Hitchens last big effort before he passed was this essay on Chesterton, which his editor at The Atlantic considered the one essay he really had to write before he was gone.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/03/the-reactionary/308889/

    Worth reading, but ends perfectly tendentiously. This one's better:

    http://www.newoxfordreview.org/reviews.jsp?did=0912-heady

    Was it the Mickey Kauss award? "I can write better than anyone who can write faster, and faster than anyone who can write better?" Maybe in the history of English letters, that would have to go to Chesterton. Their at a 36th volume of his collected works, which itself is over six hundred pages, which more to come. He only lived to 62. As a biological specimen of genius, the man was fascinating. He was absent-minded to the point of about being a danger to himself at times, but interestingly was not kin to Beethoven re cleaning habits. After living with Joe Sobran, I assumed all men of such caliber are innocent slobs. But the one probably really was a saint, so maybe that might mean something. And I was glad to be the one to give him what might have been Joe's favorite essay by Chesterton, St. Thomas More, which begins:


    Most would understand the phrase that the mind of More was like a diamond that a tyrant threw away into a ditch, because he could not break it. It is but a metaphor; but it does sometimes happen that the metaphor is many-sided, like the diamond. What moved the tyrant to a sort of terror of that mind was its clarity; it was the very reverse of a cloudy crystal filled only with opalescent dreams or visions of the past. The King and his great Chancellor had been companions as well as contemporaries; in many ways, both were Renaissance men; but in some ways, the man who was the more Catholic was the less medieval.
     
    I'm confident he will be canonized.

    You lived with Joe Sobran? Wow.

    He emailed me back a few times, when I’d send him a remarked about one of his columns. Struck me as a genuinely good guy.

    And his Alias Shakespeare was quite an eye-opener.

    • Replies: @Pat Casey
    You can still pull up St. Joe and the Tribe by Patrick Casey somewhere, published at the old alternativeright.com, back when I was younger and dumber but ever indebted to the finest writer to pass through the modern conservative movement, and the best conversationalist in the nation.
  140. @Big Bill
    I haven't seen the documentation of her college claim. Given that it was at a black college, however, and given that black-on-black racism is a problem (blacks call it "colorism"), she COULD have been complaining that her "fellow" blacks were discriminating against her because she was "hi-yalla". In other words, because she was an extremely light-skinned black, and were calling her (ugh!) "white". If this was the core of her discrimination claim, her transracial color shift would have happened earlier than attending college.

    This is a subtlety that would be lost on most rightwing white folks, since black folks like to keep their dirty linen a secret from white folks. Hence the special black-only name for black racism.

    no , Rachel was seen by all at Howard as a White female. Her lawsuit specifically stated she was discriminated against for being a White female. A quick google search will show her wedding photos from 2003 when she had straight blonde hair and very white skin. This was the same year she sued Howard University

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/06/15/rachel-dolezal-sued-howard-for-racial-discrimination-because-she-was-white/

    While at Howard Dolezal was blue eyed Blonde and did not perm her hair or dye her skin.
    Her transition started after she divorced her husband around 2006 and she moved to Spokane to transition in a city with few Blacks.

  141. @I, Libertine
    By state. California's delegation has one vote, Wyoming's has one vote, etc. Right now, the GOP candidate could not lose such and election. So Trump couldn't win unless that were him.

    The Wallace plan would have relied on the then-viable, now-obsolete plan of convincing conservative Southern Democratic representatives to vote for him instead of Humphrey (or Nixon). Even then I don’t know how he could have gotten to a majority of the states. Wallace, Perot, Trump, or indeed any third-party outsider candidate of either left or right would always would have a better chance with the people than with the politicians.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Even then I don’t know how he could have gotten to a majority of the states.
     
    Wallace's point wasn't to win, but to regain control of the agenda.

    Nothing frightens the goo-goos like the specter of a presidential election going to the House. But something similar happened in 1974, and we survived.

    Jerry Ford: America's first and only Prime Minister.
  142. @Priss Factor
    In IMITATION OF LIFE, a black woman pretends to be white and denies her black ancestry.

    With all this 'blacks are cool', and 'blacks are noble' crap, we have IOL going the opposite direction.

    But the most ridiculous is all these whites pretending to be hononary Zionists. The 'cuckservatives' and Zuck-serve-atives.

    “In IMITATION OF LIFE, a black woman pretends to be white and denies her black ancestry.”

    The reason that so-called “African American” woman was able to successfully pass for White is because she was played an actress who is half Czech Jew and half Mexican.

  143. @MarkinLA
    Cruz is almost there in some respects, Walker maybe, though I don’t know how much I can trust him at this point. Fiorina might be possible.

    Cruz the 325,000 H-1Bs a year guy whose wife is Goldman Sachs, Walker who just recently got religion, and Fiorina who thinks Americans have no right to jobs is going to actually change their minds and alienate their billionaire backers and follow through if they get elected? You mean you want a repeat of the past 10 elections where the politician says something and does something else once in office? Is that what being Presidential means?

    “Cruz is almost there in some respects,” is not the same as “Cruz is the guy we should support.” He has a long way to go.

    Presidential isn’t what I want…but I strongly suspect that it’s what most Americans want. It’s a bit of an abstract notion, but try transporting yourself ahead a year from now. Imagine all of the existing TV sound bytes of Donald Trump that show him in a negative light – there are thousands of them from 30 years in the public eye. Now, imagine moderate conservatives and conservative independents – there are tens of millions of them – being bombarded 24 hours a day with those negative off the cuff remarks Donald has made over the years. Donald isn’t electable in the general election.

    I have none of the moronic Glenn Beck style antipathy towards Trump. Who do I want to be president? As of right now…Donald Trump. But like Pat Buchanan, it ain’t gonna happen, so why try to make it happen? It just isn’t realistic.

    But his candidacy is the most important candidacy of the last half century. Why? Not because he might be president, but because he has a real chance to force the hand of those who are electable on an issue that is the most important of our generation. An issue that has either been ignored by most or manipulated by the left to literally bring down our country.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    What a crock. Clinton was far worse and still got elected. America resoundingly elected an actor for president. Trump is very electable.
  144. @ben tillman

    We should spend less time talking about how great Trump is and more time about how to get most of the other candidates to co-opt the important elements of Trump’s immigration philosophy into their campaigns. Of course, Jeb and Graham won’t go along with the idea....
     
    On Monday, Graham came out against birthright citizenship, so you never know.

    The best that Graham could ever be is another Mitt Romney – sounding tough during the primaries, then changing dramatically once he got the nomination. More likely he’d be far worse, IMO. But, if Trump can help get all the Repub. candidates on the same page, more or less, on immigration, they’d be less likely to change their tune if nominated. I do welcome Graham’s announcement, but he and Jeb aren’t even remotely trustworthy.

  145. @matt

    Unz made the claim that raising the minimum wage would cause some employers to hire Americans instead of illegals and there is some logic to it but I think he is far too unrealistic.

    First of all there is virtually no penalty to hiring an illegal alien. If they bring you a piece of paper showing they are here legally, regardless if you think it is fake, there is nothing the government can do to you and you might even be guilty of discrimination if you don’t hire him. No employer is required to use E-Verify. Only if there is a consistent pattern of you violating the immigration laws like some companies did when they actually told the illegals where to get their phony paperwork then you might be subject to the RICO statutes. However, it is almost never used. You are more likely to be sued by the legal employees for depressed wages in a class action suit like Mohawk Industries.

    There are numerous other reasons an illegal is hired over an American – the biggest being that they can be cheated with relative impunity. Even if they are not cheated they can be treated like dirt and given all the crap jobs or crap shifts. When I was a teen there were almost no fast food places staying open all night long. There simply weren’t enough people desperate enough to take such a crappy job for that lousy pay. Now almost every one I see has at least a 24 hour drive through. I don’t think having a Taco Bell open at 3:00 AM is a good enough trade-off for having to support tens if not hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens in LA schools.

  146. @I, Libertine
    You lived with Joe Sobran? Wow.

    He emailed me back a few times, when I'd send him a remarked about one of his columns. Struck me as a genuinely good guy.

    And his Alias Shakespeare was quite an eye-opener.

    You can still pull up St. Joe and the Tribe by Patrick Casey somewhere, published at the old alternativeright.com, back when I was younger and dumber but ever indebted to the finest writer to pass through the modern conservative movement, and the best conversationalist in the nation.

  147. @Anonymous
    There have been several public renditions of the "throw the Jew down the well" song in the history of the Borat TV sketches. Each time it is obvious he's encouraging the crowd to join, which they invariably do, with some mixture of awkwardness and enthusiasm not betraying any serious opinion about the lyrics. The movie's scene took place in country/western bar of the Sex Pistols '77-78 U.S. tour variety; once the offensive portion of the song begins the hicks are shown looking nervously at each other but do find the chorus very funny for whatever reason. Reviewing the film via just this one scene Martin Peretz declared it a "chilling" piece of documentary footage, a self-parodic reaction more comical than the Borat scene itself.

    “Reviewing the film via just this one scene Martin Peretz declared it a “chilling” piece of documentary footage, a self-parodic reaction more comical than the Borat scene itself.”

    Well, it is well known that the former owner of The New Republic, who bought the NR with his wealthy wife’s money, was clearly anti-Semitic—the only thing was that the Semites he was strongly against were the Arabs. The original Jews are cousins of the Arabs, and they are both Semites, just different tribes. In fact, just like the Greeks, the Jews obtained their alphabet, their system of writing, from the Phoenicians, the ancestors of today’s Lebanese.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "Semitic" is a language group and includes people people from the Horn of Africa to Northern Syria and Morocco to Iraq. These populations are not all genetically similar. Even Arabs aren't one undifferentiated genetic blob. The pre-Arab Phoenicians were Levantines. The "original Jews" not only got their alphabet from them, they also spoke an almost identical language. The population genetic relationship was likely close. Peninsular and North African Arabs are more distant both genetically and linguistically from modern day Levantine Arabs and certainly from their even less-admixed Pre-Arab Levantine ancestors.
  148. @tbraton
    "Reviewing the film via just this one scene Martin Peretz declared it a “chilling” piece of documentary footage, a self-parodic reaction more comical than the Borat scene itself."

    Well, it is well known that the former owner of The New Republic, who bought the NR with his wealthy wife's money, was clearly anti-Semitic---the only thing was that the Semites he was strongly against were the Arabs. The original Jews are cousins of the Arabs, and they are both Semites, just different tribes. In fact, just like the Greeks, the Jews obtained their alphabet, their system of writing, from the Phoenicians, the ancestors of today's Lebanese.

    “Semitic” is a language group and includes people people from the Horn of Africa to Northern Syria and Morocco to Iraq. These populations are not all genetically similar. Even Arabs aren’t one undifferentiated genetic blob. The pre-Arab Phoenicians were Levantines. The “original Jews” not only got their alphabet from them, they also spoke an almost identical language. The population genetic relationship was likely close. Peninsular and North African Arabs are more distant both genetically and linguistically from modern day Levantine Arabs and certainly from their even less-admixed Pre-Arab Levantine ancestors.

  149. @J1234
    "Cruz is almost there in some respects," is not the same as "Cruz is the guy we should support." He has a long way to go.

    Presidential isn't what I want...but I strongly suspect that it's what most Americans want. It's a bit of an abstract notion, but try transporting yourself ahead a year from now. Imagine all of the existing TV sound bytes of Donald Trump that show him in a negative light - there are thousands of them from 30 years in the public eye. Now, imagine moderate conservatives and conservative independents - there are tens of millions of them - being bombarded 24 hours a day with those negative off the cuff remarks Donald has made over the years. Donald isn't electable in the general election.

    I have none of the moronic Glenn Beck style antipathy towards Trump. Who do I want to be president? As of right now...Donald Trump. But like Pat Buchanan, it ain't gonna happen, so why try to make it happen? It just isn't realistic.

    But his candidacy is the most important candidacy of the last half century. Why? Not because he might be president, but because he has a real chance to force the hand of those who are electable on an issue that is the most important of our generation. An issue that has either been ignored by most or manipulated by the left to literally bring down our country.

    What a crock. Clinton was far worse and still got elected. America resoundingly elected an actor for president. Trump is very electable.

    • Replies: @J1234

    What a crock. Clinton was far worse and still got elected. America resoundingly elected an actor for president. Trump is very electable.
     
    That argument doesn't make any sense. The country is very different than it was 23 years ago, in terms of left vs. right. When Clinton tried to make the miltary gay, he had to back down in shame due to the public outrage. That included some mainstream media outrage. Now they have parades and TV celebrations for the SCOTUS decision.

    Clinton had little recognition or history on the national level in '92 compared to Trump today. All of the baggage Clinton brought with him was regional, and largely unknown to the American public. As far as electing an actor...I don't exactly know what Reagan has to do with this. Reagan's occupation was irrelevant. His persona was. Likewise, it isn't Trump's occupation that makes him unelectable. It's his persona. You'll be trying to sell steak to a bunch of vegans in November of '16. I personally love steak, but what I love is irrelevant.

    Before the wall on the border, the wall that first needs to be built is a wall of Repub. candidates that all (or mostly) have Trump's hard ass view on immigration. You all are being taken in by the romantic notion of the rebel speaking the truth (which Trump admittedly is), and not facing reality.

  150. @Anonym
    What a crock. Clinton was far worse and still got elected. America resoundingly elected an actor for president. Trump is very electable.

    What a crock. Clinton was far worse and still got elected. America resoundingly elected an actor for president. Trump is very electable.

    That argument doesn’t make any sense. The country is very different than it was 23 years ago, in terms of left vs. right. When Clinton tried to make the miltary gay, he had to back down in shame due to the public outrage. That included some mainstream media outrage. Now they have parades and TV celebrations for the SCOTUS decision.

    Clinton had little recognition or history on the national level in ’92 compared to Trump today. All of the baggage Clinton brought with him was regional, and largely unknown to the American public. As far as electing an actor…I don’t exactly know what Reagan has to do with this. Reagan’s occupation was irrelevant. His persona was. Likewise, it isn’t Trump’s occupation that makes him unelectable. It’s his persona. You’ll be trying to sell steak to a bunch of vegans in November of ’16. I personally love steak, but what I love is irrelevant.

    Before the wall on the border, the wall that first needs to be built is a wall of Repub. candidates that all (or mostly) have Trump’s hard ass view on immigration. You all are being taken in by the romantic notion of the rebel speaking the truth (which Trump admittedly is), and not facing reality.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    I remember hearing the same thing about both Jesse Ventura and Arnold.

    One also has to be cognizant of the weakness of the other candidates. Yeb has less charisma and more baggage than GWB. I know that bookmakers still have Yeb as the favorite but Trump is gaining.

    Versus Hillary, she is already a one time loser versus BO - couldn't even win the primary. So I don't rate her as an exceptional candidate. Trump is very smart and quick on his feet. Oodles of self respect, which causes others to respect him also. I think Americans will believe he can negotiate a good deal for their country. Who wouldn't want Trump in their corner negotiating for them?
  151. @J1234

    What a crock. Clinton was far worse and still got elected. America resoundingly elected an actor for president. Trump is very electable.
     
    That argument doesn't make any sense. The country is very different than it was 23 years ago, in terms of left vs. right. When Clinton tried to make the miltary gay, he had to back down in shame due to the public outrage. That included some mainstream media outrage. Now they have parades and TV celebrations for the SCOTUS decision.

    Clinton had little recognition or history on the national level in '92 compared to Trump today. All of the baggage Clinton brought with him was regional, and largely unknown to the American public. As far as electing an actor...I don't exactly know what Reagan has to do with this. Reagan's occupation was irrelevant. His persona was. Likewise, it isn't Trump's occupation that makes him unelectable. It's his persona. You'll be trying to sell steak to a bunch of vegans in November of '16. I personally love steak, but what I love is irrelevant.

    Before the wall on the border, the wall that first needs to be built is a wall of Repub. candidates that all (or mostly) have Trump's hard ass view on immigration. You all are being taken in by the romantic notion of the rebel speaking the truth (which Trump admittedly is), and not facing reality.

    I remember hearing the same thing about both Jesse Ventura and Arnold.

    One also has to be cognizant of the weakness of the other candidates. Yeb has less charisma and more baggage than GWB. I know that bookmakers still have Yeb as the favorite but Trump is gaining.

    Versus Hillary, she is already a one time loser versus BO – couldn’t even win the primary. So I don’t rate her as an exceptional candidate. Trump is very smart and quick on his feet. Oodles of self respect, which causes others to respect him also. I think Americans will believe he can negotiate a good deal for their country. Who wouldn’t want Trump in their corner negotiating for them?

    • Replies: @J1234
    If I haven't made it clear, I should point out that I truly hope that I am wrong and you are right. I would love to see Trump as the president in many/most ways (though I'm still not convinced that he's as entirely against amnesty as we're being led to believe.) Nevertheless, during this campaign, I've decided that I'm going to focus on a principle, not a person. Romney acted like Mr. Angry Tea Party at this point during the last election, then turned into a fag for the general election. Like Ann Coulter, I will be a one issue voter, and that voter will be immigration. That's why I want most of the Repubs at least nominally on the same page on this issue.

    Jesse and Arnold could never be president, either. You're right about Trump's opponents being lousy, though. Who knows, maybe it will happen. Not holding my breath, though.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    What a crock. Clinton was far worse and still got elected. America resoundingly elected an actor for president. Trump is very electable…


    I remember hearing the same thing about both Jesse Ventura and Arnold.

     

    Reagan was a governor and a union president for 14 years in total. That's a lot of political experience. Jesse Ventura was mayor of a large suburb with 1.3% of the state's population. No neophyte he, either.

    Schwarzenegger is more like Trump, but that was a weird and unscheduled election. He also had little in the way of real competition.
  152. @Jefferson
    "Well, tell that to the New York Times!"

    If most people working at New York Times do not know Brazilians speak Portuguese and not Spanish, what kind of dumb asses are they hiring? Aren't the staff at The New York Times suppose to be a lot more intelligent, sophisticated, book smart educated, knowledgeable of other cultures, and have higher IQ's than the so-called "dumb masses in fly over country who cling to their religion and their guns".

    A New York Times Liberal can get away with believing Spanish is the official language of Brazil and not be called an uneducated dumb hick for it. If a Rick Perry had believed it, the Left would say he is just another dumb Texan just like Dubya.

    If most people working at New York Times do not know Brazilians speak Portuguese

    Yes, it’s absurd for them to think that Brazilians (and a white upperclass Brazilian at that) would join hands in solidarity with Mexican peasants and take offense on their behalf. But not much more absurd than imagining Puerto Ricans give a shit about Mexicans.

    We live in interesting times. A century or two ago, European elites worked hard to unite their not-so-united subjects, whose sense of identity was at most regional, behind an imagined national identity: Italy, Germany, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia. In some cases it was for self defense, in others it was to lead them into aggressive wars.

    Today, those Americans who hope to rule through a coalition of the fringes are likewise trying expand natural loyalties in artificial directions. And as in Europe, the goal is to conscript them into a war of sorts — fought not against external enemies but against native badwhites.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    "Yes, it’s absurd for them to think that Brazilians (and a white upperclass Brazilian at that) would join hands in solidarity with Mexican peasants and take offense on their behalf. But not much more absurd than imagining Puerto Ricans give a shit about Mexicans.

    We live in interesting times. A century or two ago, European elites worked hard to unite their not-so-united subjects, whose sense of identity was at most regional, behind an imagined national identity: Italy, Germany, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia. In some cases it was for self defense, in others it was to lead them into aggressive wars.

    Today, those Americans who hope to rule through a coalition of the fringes are likewise trying expand natural loyalties in artificial directions. And as in Europe, the goal is to conscript them into a war of sorts — fought not against external enemies but against native badwhites."

    I notice that among the BRIC nations, Donald Trump does not see Brazil and India as threats to the U.S. He only sees China and Russia as threats to the U.S.

  153. @Anonym
    I remember hearing the same thing about both Jesse Ventura and Arnold.

    One also has to be cognizant of the weakness of the other candidates. Yeb has less charisma and more baggage than GWB. I know that bookmakers still have Yeb as the favorite but Trump is gaining.

    Versus Hillary, she is already a one time loser versus BO - couldn't even win the primary. So I don't rate her as an exceptional candidate. Trump is very smart and quick on his feet. Oodles of self respect, which causes others to respect him also. I think Americans will believe he can negotiate a good deal for their country. Who wouldn't want Trump in their corner negotiating for them?

    If I haven’t made it clear, I should point out that I truly hope that I am wrong and you are right. I would love to see Trump as the president in many/most ways (though I’m still not convinced that he’s as entirely against amnesty as we’re being led to believe.) Nevertheless, during this campaign, I’ve decided that I’m going to focus on a principle, not a person. Romney acted like Mr. Angry Tea Party at this point during the last election, then turned into a fag for the general election. Like Ann Coulter, I will be a one issue voter, and that voter will be immigration. That’s why I want most of the Repubs at least nominally on the same page on this issue.

    Jesse and Arnold could never be president, either. You’re right about Trump’s opponents being lousy, though. Who knows, maybe it will happen. Not holding my breath, though.

  154. @International Jew

    If most people working at New York Times do not know Brazilians speak Portuguese
     
    Yes, it's absurd for them to think that Brazilians (and a white upperclass Brazilian at that) would join hands in solidarity with Mexican peasants and take offense on their behalf. But not much more absurd than imagining Puerto Ricans give a shit about Mexicans.

    We live in interesting times. A century or two ago, European elites worked hard to unite their not-so-united subjects, whose sense of identity was at most regional, behind an imagined national identity: Italy, Germany, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia. In some cases it was for self defense, in others it was to lead them into aggressive wars.

    Today, those Americans who hope to rule through a coalition of the fringes are likewise trying expand natural loyalties in artificial directions. And as in Europe, the goal is to conscript them into a war of sorts -- fought not against external enemies but against native badwhites.

    “Yes, it’s absurd for them to think that Brazilians (and a white upperclass Brazilian at that) would join hands in solidarity with Mexican peasants and take offense on their behalf. But not much more absurd than imagining Puerto Ricans give a shit about Mexicans.

    We live in interesting times. A century or two ago, European elites worked hard to unite their not-so-united subjects, whose sense of identity was at most regional, behind an imagined national identity: Italy, Germany, Ukraine, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia. In some cases it was for self defense, in others it was to lead them into aggressive wars.

    Today, those Americans who hope to rule through a coalition of the fringes are likewise trying expand natural loyalties in artificial directions. And as in Europe, the goal is to conscript them into a war of sorts — fought not against external enemies but against native badwhites.”

    I notice that among the BRIC nations, Donald Trump does not see Brazil and India as threats to the U.S. He only sees China and Russia as threats to the U.S.

  155. @Anonym
    I remember hearing the same thing about both Jesse Ventura and Arnold.

    One also has to be cognizant of the weakness of the other candidates. Yeb has less charisma and more baggage than GWB. I know that bookmakers still have Yeb as the favorite but Trump is gaining.

    Versus Hillary, she is already a one time loser versus BO - couldn't even win the primary. So I don't rate her as an exceptional candidate. Trump is very smart and quick on his feet. Oodles of self respect, which causes others to respect him also. I think Americans will believe he can negotiate a good deal for their country. Who wouldn't want Trump in their corner negotiating for them?

    What a crock. Clinton was far worse and still got elected. America resoundingly elected an actor for president. Trump is very electable…

    I remember hearing the same thing about both Jesse Ventura and Arnold.

    Reagan was a governor and a union president for 14 years in total. That’s a lot of political experience. Jesse Ventura was mayor of a large suburb with 1.3% of the state’s population. No neophyte he, either.

    Schwarzenegger is more like Trump, but that was a weird and unscheduled election. He also had little in the way of real competition.

  156. @James Kabala
    The Wallace plan would have relied on the then-viable, now-obsolete plan of convincing conservative Southern Democratic representatives to vote for him instead of Humphrey (or Nixon). Even then I don't know how he could have gotten to a majority of the states. Wallace, Perot, Trump, or indeed any third-party outsider candidate of either left or right would always would have a better chance with the people than with the politicians.

    Even then I don’t know how he could have gotten to a majority of the states.

    Wallace’s point wasn’t to win, but to regain control of the agenda.

    Nothing frightens the goo-goos like the specter of a presidential election going to the House. But something similar happened in 1974, and we survived.

    Jerry Ford: America’s first and only Prime Minister.

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