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At the U.S. Open, Serena Williams Demanded the Apology All Black Women Deserve

Candice Benbow
Glamour September 10, 2018

… More than being a special moment between two women who love the game, it was also a rare show of diversity in the exclusive, male-dominated world of tennis. …

When two Women of Color play, it’s only fair that the White Man loses.

Instead, what we witnessed were the insidious prongs of sexism and racism: How the world often doles out injustice and insult on women of color, expecting them to accept it gracefully, and when they don’t, chastise them for the rage they instigated.

… That’s exactly what happened.

… The fragility of the male ego does not have room for any woman—much less a black woman—demanding an apology. Nevertheless, Williams persisted in her pursuit of one. She is tired, and rightfully so.

All that Emotional Labor …

… As she continued to dominate the sport, she has been subjected to unwarranted drug testing.

… And what could only be viewed as the peak of sexism, Williams returned to the game only to be ranked lower after missing games to deliver the baby and take maternity leave …

… Black women knew why Serena was angry. We know all too well what it means for someone else’s [perceived] errors to be made our own. We know what it is like for our passionate responses to be read as antagonistic. … If Williams, a black woman of considerable wealth and status, experiences this without reprieve, those with fewer resources are left completely unprotected. When she told the umpire, “You owe me an apology,” it was for all of us.

It’s very simple how Serena getting even more wealth and status benefits other black women’s wealth and status:

Phase 1: Serena profits
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: We all profit

Back to Yahoo:

Black women deserve apologies for every time our self-advocacy was viewed as threatening and antagonistic. We deserve apologies for all the times we expressed ourselves and were told we could have said it differently. We deserve apologies when we were not believed and the worst was assumed of us. We deserve apologies for consistently telling this country what was in its political best interest and being ignored. Black women are owed apologies for our daily navigation of spaces that require us to be anxiously preoccupied with how our actions could be viewed by others.

Apologies matter. They signal that the offender recognizes their actions were wrong and caused harm. Yet, an apology isn’t the final step. Corrective and restorative actions must be taken. The match may be over, but tennis must reckon with the deeply sexist and racist politics that were at play. Williams deserves better treatment all around, and she’s demanding it.

In her postmatch interview, Williams said, “I’m here, fighting for women’s rights and for women’s equality and for all kinds of stuff…. Maybe it didn’t work out for me, but it’s going to work out for the next person.” And the fight is a necessary. We saw this no more clearly than when Naomi Osaka tearfully apologized for winning. Girls and women of color are taught to apologize for the space they take up in this world. They are to be invisible, and when they are noticed, it is their fault. But the apology wasn’t on Osaka to deliver. Systems that believe women of color cannot be victims are the only guilty parties.

Thank goodness the Rising Tide of Diversity, as represented by the finalists in this tennis match, means that divisiveness and racial resentment are vanishing from American life.

But, because Anglo White Males had the unmitigated gall to found the sport of lawn tennis in Victorian times, their legacy of sportsmanship and gentlemanly stiff-upper-lipness continues to poison us all. Long after they are gone, their memories must be kept living and hated.

 
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  1. The Russians don’t seem to be playing along:

    Serena Williams’ history of petulance makes a mockery of her status as a role model

    https://www.rt.com/sport/438105-serena-williams-us-open-role-model/

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  2. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:

    Really off-topic, but please notice… In the News From Long Island:

    https://www.newsday.com/lifestyle/family/drag-queen-story-hour-jefferson-1.20877530

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  3. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    You want an apology?

    How about a divorce?

    Then you can go and make Wakanda real.

    But that isn’t enough for you, you want whites to grovel.

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  4. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
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    What the hell kind of parents would subject their children to such crass insanity ?
    , @Anon
    Read it thanks for posting.
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  5. Anonymous[276] • Disclaimer says:

    That umpire is lucky he didn’t run into Serena on the subway to Flushing:

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    • LOL: Clyde
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Isn't this that stylish little negro man that was thrown into a NYC pool by a big black Uber driver recently? Some guys just have no luck. Black lives matter least of all to blacks.
    , @Anonymous
    It's sadly not that uncommon to find some sh*t crazy black person around NYC enraged to screaming over the most trifling BS, just itching for a confrontation. On the subway, it's best to just move to a different car. More common is the black bum asleep and taking up what could be several peoples' seats, and a few more are wasted because no one wants to sit anywhere near him.
    , @CCZ
    Occasionally a "Becky" fights back, and wins!

    The 92-second video clip reportedly shows Savannah Sprague, a cheerleader for Clayton Valley Charter High School, beating an unidentified black teenage girl who egged her on by challenging her to a fistfight, the New York Post reported.

    “Do you want to fight?” the unidentified black girl asks Sprague, who is seen sitting at a table with several other cheerleaders surrounded by several students.

    “No, nobody wants to fight,” Sprague replies. “You guys want to fight us. Nobody speaks on you guys, nobody talks about you guys.”

    The unidentified black girl then slaps Sprague in the face, starting the brutal beatdown which ended with Sprague body-slamming and pummeling the girl—all while in her cheerleading uniform.

    https://nypost.com/2018/09/10/cheerleader-pummels-girl-who-challenges-her-to-fight/
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  6. newrouter says:

    “We saw this no more clearly than when Naomi Osaka tearfully apologized for winning. Girls and women of color are taught to apologize for the space they take up in this world. ”

    By angry female Negros.

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    Blackety, blackety, black, black, black.
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  7. The other day I pulled into the parking lot of my bank. As I got out of my car to head into the building I spotted a well-dressed black woman who was also getting out of her car. She displayed the attitude and body language of the woman who penned this Glamour piece (and of Serena herself).

    She too was heading towards the front door and I, seeing that we would arrive there at roughly the same time, paused and leaned back into my car from my still open door in order to fidget with the somethingorother on the floor behind the drivers seat, leaving her free to navigate through the bank’s front door without my interference.

    I could tell by her body language that she knew just what I was up to, but I didn’t care what she thought about me. I had no desire to place myself in proximity to an entitled black woman who would be putting me to the test, so to speak.

    Two weeks ago I was driving on a long car trip. I pulled into a drive-through for some junk food. A very sweet young black woman handed me my food. I gave her a dollar tip and thanked her for brightening my day with her (truly) beautiful smile. She thanked me profusely in return.

    I’m not (too much of) a racist. I just don’t like feeling as though my every encounter with a black person is a test of some kind; which is just what these social jihadists are pushing on us.

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    • Replies: @David In TN
    It's been that way (a test) for over 50 years now.
    , @Jack D
    Do you really think that your token tip is sufficient reparations for 300 years of black oppression, you filthy racist? That proud black woman should have throw the dollar back into your face and demanded the keys to your car, which itself would be small recompense for 3 centuries of rape.
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  8. Anon[306] • Disclaimer says:

    “”Unwarranted drug testing””

    Looks completely warrented to me . Take a gander at (her?) Physique . She looks like a roided up Lebron James in a tacky wig . Her hardened jawline and bulging head and neck are also telltale signs. How about her temper. What the heck needs to be done to “warrant” drug testing these days if the spectacle of Mrs Williams is deemed insufficient ?

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    • Replies: @binkyxz3
    Wiki Leaks describes the PED use by both Williams sisters and the waivers they were granted by the sports governing bodies.
    , @AnotherDad

    “”Unwarranted drug testing”

    Looks completely warrented to me .
     
    Forget Serena. Or any one you suspect. There's no reason drug testing shouldn't be absolutely *routine* in professional sports. Every NFL, NBA, NHL, MBL game, professional soccer match, all the professional track meets, every Olympics--heck out a year from the Olympics and every month coming into them--every tennis tournament, etc. etc.

    If i'm a clean professional athlete peeing in a cup before the game ain't a big deal, and i'd want everyone to have to do it so the competition is fair.
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  9. Anon[306] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    Off-topic, OK, but In the News From Long Island:

    https://www.newsday.com/lifestyle/family/drag-queen-story-hour-jefferson-1.20877530

    What the hell kind of parents would subject their children to such crass insanity ?

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  10. Anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:

    I foresee more incidents of this type happening in sports as the sanity gap between the USA and the rest of the world widens. The truth that most right-thinking white Americans have internalized (that blacks are to be held to a different, lower standard and allowed to say/do things forbidden to a white person) can never be articulated directly; it’s something you pick up over a lifetime of intense social conditioning. Take a person not exposed to that conditioning, put him in a position of power over an American black and you’re just asking for trouble. The logical counterarguments (that Serena has a long history of hostile and at times threatening behavior towards officials; that she was clearly losing; that the initial warning was just that, a warning with no penalty attached; that her coach admitted to doing what she was warned for; that her opponent was also a black female) will carry no weight, just as arguments against religious dogma find no audience amongst true believers.

    And that’s what this really is: a religious movement amongst the American ruling class, one that in its more extreme form still hasn’t quite caught on elsewhere. The United States is turning into Saudi Arabia if it were ruled by the editorial staff of Jezebel.com.

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    And that’s what this really is: a religious movement amongst the American ruling class, one that in its more extreme form still hasn’t quite caught on elsewhere.
     
    What is causing the hate whitey movement? Pick one:
    1. It's a religious cult. The left and modern people generally have abandoned Christian belief, and once you are cut loose from traditional beliefs any crazy cult will do. Look at the plethora of cults in ancient Rome. Currently Americans are worshiping sacred black vaginas.
    2. Jews making money. This requires dividing and conquering Gentiles, best done with well orchestrated propaganda campaigns attacking whitey. As noted elsewhere, the more brazenly absurd the propaganda lie, the more it humiliates and cows those who see the lie.
    3. Women are stupid. Women, on average, are less reasoning, more emotional, more self-pitying and blaming, and more likely to wallow in bathetic soap opera, than men. As women have risen in the ranks of business and politics the public discourse has degraded.
    4. People are stupid. All people are stupid some of the time, and most people are stupid most of the time. Precious few homo sapiens can distinguish between fallacies and valid argument. The public stumbles from one group stupidity to the next, and Serena worship is just the latest.
    5. All of the above.
    , @Pericles
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeOJks5fZrY

    Here's the dorm room weed question though: Would you rather live in Pringle Bay ... or on MLK Boulevard Jr?
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  11. Ibound1 says:

    Did it occur to them that when two people play, yes even when two diverse people play, one must lose. It just has to happen. Is that why they are calling for an apology ? The MAN and his RULES made a diverse person lose?

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    When two Women of Color play, it's only fair that the White Man loses.
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  12. Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    That umpire is lucky he didn't run into Serena on the subway to Flushing:

    https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1021378776473767937

    Isn’t this that stylish little negro man that was thrown into a NYC pool by a big black Uber driver recently? Some guys just have no luck. Black lives matter least of all to blacks.

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  13. Luke Lea says:
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  14. Will this ever end?

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    • Replies: @slumber_j

    Will this ever end?
     
    Not as long as Women of Color must contend with the "insidious prongs."

    I've thought about your question a lot, and it seems hard to say.

    On the one hand there's intellectual fashion, which would seem to dictate that people will turn away from this fever-pitch nonsense one day--and maybe soon. On the other hand, I've seen increasingly high tides of racial hogwash flowing and ebbing for the forty years since I became a teenager and started noticing.
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  15. MBlanc46 says:
    @newrouter
    "We saw this no more clearly than when Naomi Osaka tearfully apologized for winning. Girls and women of color are taught to apologize for the space they take up in this world. "

    By angry female Negros.

    Blackety, blackety, black, black, black.

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  16. J.Ross says: • Website

    If you’re not tired of this yet here’s a photoshop contest/brainstorming thread centering on Mark Knight’s cartoon, including multiple sizes and an isolated Serena figure.

    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/185288676

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  17. Anon[395] • Disclaimer says:

    World’s most important graph

    You tell this to a white “muh career” girl, its literally Hitler

    Say it in a Third World shithole, its ho-hum.

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    Thanks.
    , @slumber_j
    That's weird that they didn't point out that the President of Tanzania is Samuel L. Jackson.
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  18. Wows says:

    Black women deserve apologies for every time our self-advocacy was viewed as threatening and antagonistic

    I don’t think the author has been around enough black women…

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9w1ly_1536267067

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  19. Nothing like a good McEnroe clip. Charisma can go a long way in allowing one to be obnoxious.

    If Serena was half as funny and charming as McEnroe, then none of this would matter much. Serena’s insistence on an apology from the judge and the media narrative that Serena Williams was actually fighting for justice for all womyn ruins what should by right be an entertaining sports drama and little more.

    I have long believed that the world could learn a lot from professional wrestling, but what do I know.

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  20. Rosie says:

    Black women deserve apologies for every time our self-advocacy was viewed as threatening and antagonistic.

    How very interesting. Silly me. I was under the impression that it was actually White men whose “self-advocacy was viewed as threatening and antagonistic.”

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  21. Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    That umpire is lucky he didn't run into Serena on the subway to Flushing:

    https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1021378776473767937

    It’s sadly not that uncommon to find some sh*t crazy black person around NYC enraged to screaming over the most trifling BS, just itching for a confrontation. On the subway, it’s best to just move to a different car. More common is the black bum asleep and taking up what could be several peoples’ seats, and a few more are wasted because no one wants to sit anywhere near him.

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  22. But, because Anglo White Males had the unmitigated gall to found the sport of lawn tennis in Victorian times, their legacy of sportsmanship and gentlemanly stiff-upper-lioness continues to poison us all.

    Indeed it’s a terrible thing if you manage to catch it. It’s been nearly eradicated.

    “Stiff-upper-lioness“? Does that describe Serena?

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    “Stiff-upper-lioness“? Does that describe Serena?
     
    Don't be so catty!
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  23. eah says:

    Thank goodness…

    Apparently diversity must be a strength in the ‘what does not kill us makes us stronger’ sense.

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  24. And what could only be viewed as the peak of sexism, Williams returned to the game only to be ranked lower after missing games to deliver the baby and take maternity leave

    Interesting point, but in the US there is a tendency to want to have a level playing field for all even if there are some hard cases. For example in track and field events the team selected is just the first three finishers in the Olympic trials, whereas in Britain it is quite likely that if a potential medal winner is injured at the time of the trials, a place will be provisionally reserved for him or her, so that if fitness can be proved a medal is not lost.

    In tennis there are rules as to how seeding is done, based on rankings over a certain period of time, and that is it. Too bad if you took out maternity leave, regardless whether you are a man or woman.

    We all want tennis players to be treated equally and fairly, but from the paying spectator point of view, one would probably want to see Serena play even if she is not on top form, and if she is knocked out in the first round when drawn against the top seed, that is not very good for business at the box office or on TV.

    I am not much of a tennis fan, but many years ago I was gifted a pair of free tickets for an early day at Wimbledon, and on an outside court all I saw a not terribly interesting match in which an chunky unseeded teenage German lad beat another unknown rather easily. All a big yawn, though the strawberries were nice.

    Little did I suspect that the German fellow would that year become the first unseeded player to win the men’s singles, but he did. As I say, not a big tennis fan.

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    • Replies: @Pericles

    but from the paying spectator point of view, one would probably want to see Serena play even if she is not on top form,

     

    Actually, I'd be quite content to never see Serena Williams again. Not just because of last week's antics either.
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  25. Phase 1: Serena profits
    Phase 2: ?
    Phase 3: We all profit

    A vigorous and extended application of the Newton-Raphson method might fill in the gap, given time.

    Otherwise, try this:

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  26. Can’t really improve on Steve’s own characterization that this is just getting bizarre. The sense of entitlement is clearly at toxic levels.

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  27. Joe Walker says: • Website

    We deserve apologies for consistently telling this country what was in its political best interest and being ignored.

    The reason why they were ignored is not because they are black women but because they come from a racial group with an average IQ of 85.

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  28. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    Off-topic, OK, but In the News From Long Island:

    https://www.newsday.com/lifestyle/family/drag-queen-story-hour-jefferson-1.20877530

    Read it thanks for posting.

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  29. @Anon
    https://twitter.com/News24/status/1039215700496330752

    World's most important graph

    You tell this to a white "muh career" girl, its literally Hitler

    Say it in a Third World shithole, its ho-hum.

    Thanks.

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  30. @Ibound1
    Did it occur to them that when two people play, yes even when two diverse people play, one must lose. It just has to happen. Is that why they are calling for an apology ? The MAN and his RULES made a diverse person lose?

    When two Women of Color play, it’s only fair that the White Man loses.

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    Two women of color? No, Selena was playing against Haven Monahan. Right?
    , @Lagertha
    Yet, we had Chris Evert there, on-air, the white, older, star tennis player everyone adores, not find her own words during the broadcast at the final/presentation.

    This is all so dumb and worthless. I blame women...women are just such pathetic excuse-spewing losers who must have the last word. Women lost the ability to have joy; and love men, love life. Women are cannibals. Women are major assholes* - they don't even deserve vaginas. Ok, ok, ok...so not all women...but y'all know I hate (most) women.

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  31. You’re right. Apologies do matter. And I’m sorry. ….So very sorry. So very, very, very sorry. Sorry sorry, sorry. I should have realized that you weren’t just fighting for your own right to be an asshole. You were fighting for the rights of all of us to be assholes. On that day, when we’ve achieved that, when we are all gaping assholes – busting rackets over each others heads and shoving balls down each other’s throats, I hope somebody has the decency to remember and thank you, Serena. You allowed us to touch our inner asshole.

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  32. SMK says: • Website

    What grotesque, howling, psychotic nonsense!

    “Systems that believe women of color cannot be victims are the only guilty parties.” What “systems”: public education, the universities, the democratic party, the courts, the media, the feminist movement -all of which, collectively and incessantly and systematically, have been depicting women of color,” by which I assume she means blacks, predominantly, for over half a century, as “two-fers” who are the “victims” of “racism” and “sexism.”

    Every year, in the U.S. alone, millions of “women of color” (blacks, Mestizos, pure Amerindians, and now also Muslims) are real victims, almost exclusively the victims of “men of color” who murder, assault, rape, gang-rape, terrorize, and brutalize them. Inner-city black women are better off in jails and prisons in some ways. By far most importantly, they’re much, much safer, safe from the violence, brutality, terror, sadism, misogyny, and predation of black men (including biological men under age 18 who are absurdly defined as “children.”

    But that is all the fault of white men, “racism,” and “the legacy of slavery and segregation.”

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  33. JimB says:

    Serena Williams is demanding an apology for not being allowed to cheat three times in one tennis match. Which makes me all the more suspicious that she is juicing.

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  34. Anon7 says:

    Um, endlessly apologizing to a size 12 women’s tennis sneaker stepping on your face forever, or whatever we’re doing this week.

    Anyway, we’re up late watching TV, looking at the Tonight Show, and I found out what happens when comedians stop doing Anti-Trumpity Trump Trump material. Jimmy Fallon, Maya Rudolph and Fred Amisen are giggling with each other doing impressions, and three more talentless people you cannot find. Any ability they might once have had is gone.

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  35. b.t.o says:

    I saw the clip and I was legitimately confused how so many people were defending her behaviour. I thought maybe there was something nuanced I was missing so I went to see what r/tennis was saying about it. Nope….Literally 100% of the sentiment in the subreddit was anti-serena.

    This is a lot like the Caster Semenya fiasco where the closer someone is to the sport the greater chance they will reject the “brave victim” narrative for a more “um… this is ridiculous” frame.

    Reporters of course only care about sports vis-a-vis other more overarching narratives so it is completely predictable that all of the opinion takes (with some exceptions from within the tennis world) are embarrassing identity drivel. Has a reporter ever bothered to ask any actual athletes, officials or coaches off the record what they think about Serena’s behaviour?

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    People can be forgiven for occasional bad behavior. Pitcher Juan Marichal was a great guy, other than every half dozen years he'd try to kill somebody on the Dodgers. Coach Woody Hays was a great guy other than every so often he'd punch somebody on the sidelines, like an opposing college player or a cameraman.
    , @Fred Boynton
    The first time you trust a reporter who is not an explicit ally and speak "off the record" will be the first time you are betrayed by that reporter on the record.
    , @Carbon blob
    I get the sense that a lot of tennis fans around the world see this as just another example of ugly American behavior, without much reference to gender or race.

    Intersectionality is a hideous bitch-goddess.
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  36. @ThreeCranes
    The other day I pulled into the parking lot of my bank. As I got out of my car to head into the building I spotted a well-dressed black woman who was also getting out of her car. She displayed the attitude and body language of the woman who penned this Glamour piece (and of Serena herself).

    She too was heading towards the front door and I, seeing that we would arrive there at roughly the same time, paused and leaned back into my car from my still open door in order to fidget with the somethingorother on the floor behind the drivers seat, leaving her free to navigate through the bank's front door without my interference.

    I could tell by her body language that she knew just what I was up to, but I didn't care what she thought about me. I had no desire to place myself in proximity to an entitled black woman who would be putting me to the test, so to speak.

    Two weeks ago I was driving on a long car trip. I pulled into a drive-through for some junk food. A very sweet young black woman handed me my food. I gave her a dollar tip and thanked her for brightening my day with her (truly) beautiful smile. She thanked me profusely in return.

    I'm not (too much of) a racist. I just don't like feeling as though my every encounter with a black person is a test of some kind; which is just what these social jihadists are pushing on us.

    It’s been that way (a test) for over 50 years now.

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  37. This whole Serena affair is ridiculous, really. The only thing that happened was during the match is that she lost to another woman of color. How in hell’s name is a black woan losing to a half-blakc woman an issue of… sexism and racism?

    And honestly, she shouldn’t even be that pissed. She has lost before, it can’t be a novel feeling for her. Serena is 36 already, she was recently a mother, she had a long successful career to proud about. Her loss an athlete 16 years her junior, at this point, is not shameful; her pettiness over the whole episode definitely is.

    In her postmatch interview, Williams said, “I’m here, fighting for women’s rights and for women’s equality and for all kinds of stuff…. Maybe it didn’t work out for me, but it’s going to work out for the next person.” And the fight is a necessary. We saw this no more clearly than when Naomi Osaka tearfully apologized for winning.

    Talk about crying in pain as they strike you; now they even say it’s for your own good!

    Osaka felt the need to apologize because, you know, the crowd was booing her as her idol was chimping out. At 20 years old, she had to deal with the awkward situation of seeing her seniors behaving like spoiled children.

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    How in hell’s name is a black woman losing to a half-black woman an issue of… sexism and racism?
     
    Simple. Just like the various Awards shows. Blacks and women are supposed to win every single time. If you put two black women against one another, and one is supposed to lose, well then you just haven't thought this through very well, you racist pig.

    But since (in reality) white males are being eased out of nearly every arena, this sort of tantrum will become ever more common. I, for one, can hardly wait.

    , @RadicalCenter
    Osaka should have said that Serena was a racist, childish, low-class, unsportsmanlike fool. Hell, I’ll buy something with her name on it for our daughters if she does.
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  38. binkyxz3 says:
    @Anon
    ""Unwarranted drug testing""

    Looks completely warrented to me . Take a gander at (her?) Physique . She looks like a roided up Lebron James in a tacky wig . Her hardened jawline and bulging head and neck are also telltale signs. How about her temper. What the heck needs to be done to "warrant" drug testing these days if the spectacle of Mrs Williams is deemed insufficient ?

    Wiki Leaks describes the PED use by both Williams sisters and the waivers they were granted by the sports governing bodies.

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  39. @Steve Sailer
    When two Women of Color play, it's only fair that the White Man loses.

    Two women of color? No, Selena was playing against Haven Monahan. Right?

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  40. Lagertha says:

    Is it weird to think that one day, when my family, and most population of well, let’s start with Scandinavians, are long gone, I believe that the world will be a Malthusian/Hobbesian death world? It will be a Road Warrior universe?

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  41. Lagertha says:
    @Steve Sailer
    When two Women of Color play, it's only fair that the White Man loses.

    Yet, we had Chris Evert there, on-air, the white, older, star tennis player everyone adores, not find her own words during the broadcast at the final/presentation.

    This is all so dumb and worthless. I blame women…women are just such pathetic excuse-spewing losers who must have the last word. Women lost the ability to have joy; and love men, love life. Women are cannibals. Women are major assholes* – they don’t even deserve vaginas. Ok, ok, ok…so not all women…but y’all know I hate (most) women.

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    Most women (and probably most men as well) are worthy of hate.

    Just human nature at its worst, which is what we've been breeding for these past several decades, if not longer.
    , @Achmed E. Newman

    Women are major assholes* – they don’t even deserve vaginas.
     
    Yeah, but men do, so don't be getting rid of them just yet ....

    If we do end up in a Road Warrior situation, per your previous comment, you'd be the one I'd want to have a Feral Kid with. ;-}
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  42. @b.t.o
    I saw the clip and I was legitimately confused how so many people were defending her behaviour. I thought maybe there was something nuanced I was missing so I went to see what r/tennis was saying about it. Nope....Literally 100% of the sentiment in the subreddit was anti-serena.

    This is a lot like the Caster Semenya fiasco where the closer someone is to the sport the greater chance they will reject the "brave victim" narrative for a more "um... this is ridiculous" frame.

    Reporters of course only care about sports vis-a-vis other more overarching narratives so it is completely predictable that all of the opinion takes (with some exceptions from within the tennis world) are embarrassing identity drivel. Has a reporter ever bothered to ask any actual athletes, officials or coaches off the record what they think about Serena's behaviour?

    People can be forgiven for occasional bad behavior. Pitcher Juan Marichal was a great guy, other than every half dozen years he’d try to kill somebody on the Dodgers. Coach Woody Hays was a great guy other than every so often he’d punch somebody on the sidelines, like an opposing college player or a cameraman.

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    People can be forgiven, in the Seventies, but the present couches this event in a normality of unforgiving vindictiveness and dogsembodiment. Also I believe (but could be wrong) the examples you give were less regular than outbursts by Serena.
    , @DCThrowback
    thoughts on Bobby Knight, Steve?
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  43. I’m surprised Yahoo still allows commenting.
    I give it six more months tops.

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  44. binkyxz3 says:

    Candy, girl, your long-winded rant has a distinct cut-out quality. It is replete with generic catch-phrases and with a couple of changes could be directed at any number of perceived offenses. When did you write this? Is it recycled leftovers from Trayvon or Big Mike?

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  45. At least Mrs Benbow isn’t a shit-studied shyster, cf http://www.candicebenbow.com/blog/leavingprinceton

    In 2015, I came to Princeton to get a degree and I am leaving without one.

    I am no longer pursuing a PhD at Princeton Theological Seminary. I was actually dismissed from the program. Though given the opportunity to withdraw from the institution so that I could “preserve any grievances against the Seminary” and “control the narrative”, I did not. I knew to do so would mean to be dishonest about one of the most difficult times of my life and, as I was taught, you don’t do people’s dirty work for them. [...]

    Following my sexual assault, I communicated to my therapist and advisor what took place. Working through the trauma, it became clear that remaining in my apartment was not conducive to my health and wellbeing. Last Fall, I went to Administration and told them what happened to me. I requested a housing reassignment and it was denied. At the beginning of Spring semester, in my apartment, I suffered a panic attack and was diagnosed with PTSD. [...]

    If you dare, go there: https://www.instagram.com/p/BnMjUMCnCaV/?hl=en&taken-by=candicebenbow

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    I'd say something snappy to warn off other commenters. But honestly with AnotherMom having dragged us down to retirement beachside, i see stuff like this--and worse--a lot of days. (The beach isn't really what it used to be.)

    Sad but true what America's become.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    The line between woke politics and mental illness is pretty thin these days.

    "it was also a rare show of diversity in the exclusive, male-dominated world of tennis"

    I'm unsure how the women's tournaments are "male-dominated", unless that's a really subtle dig at some of the more 'butch' ladies.

    It's like Althea Gibson (should be an iSteve favourite, a good golfer and all-round natural athlete) never existed*.

    http://kentakepage.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Althea-Gibson.jpg

    * her Winbledon doubles partner was the (Jewish Brit) Angela Buxton, who raised money when she was sick in her last years. Are there many Jewish tennis champions?

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  46. CCZ says:
    @Anonymous
    That umpire is lucky he didn't run into Serena on the subway to Flushing:

    https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1021378776473767937

    Occasionally a “Becky” fights back, and wins!

    The 92-second video clip reportedly shows Savannah Sprague, a cheerleader for Clayton Valley Charter High School, beating an unidentified black teenage girl who egged her on by challenging her to a fistfight, the New York Post reported.

    “Do you want to fight?” the unidentified black girl asks Sprague, who is seen sitting at a table with several other cheerleaders surrounded by several students.

    “No, nobody wants to fight,” Sprague replies. “You guys want to fight us. Nobody speaks on you guys, nobody talks about you guys.”

    The unidentified black girl then slaps Sprague in the face, starting the brutal beatdown which ended with Sprague body-slamming and pummeling the girl—all while in her cheerleading uniform.

    https://nypost.com/2018/09/10/cheerleader-pummels-girl-who-challenges-her-to-fight/

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    Why can't women be more like men? Just relax, chill out, and play video games.
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  47. I haven’t seen the video yet. Did Serena’s neck swivel back and forth while she ranted?

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  48. @Anon
    ""Unwarranted drug testing""

    Looks completely warrented to me . Take a gander at (her?) Physique . She looks like a roided up Lebron James in a tacky wig . Her hardened jawline and bulging head and neck are also telltale signs. How about her temper. What the heck needs to be done to "warrant" drug testing these days if the spectacle of Mrs Williams is deemed insufficient ?

    “”Unwarranted drug testing”

    Looks completely warrented to me .

    Forget Serena. Or any one you suspect. There’s no reason drug testing shouldn’t be absolutely *routine* in professional sports. Every NFL, NBA, NHL, MBL game, professional soccer match, all the professional track meets, every Olympics–heck out a year from the Olympics and every month coming into them–every tennis tournament, etc. etc.

    If i’m a clean professional athlete peeing in a cup before the game ain’t a big deal, and i’d want everyone to have to do it so the competition is fair.

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    There’s no reason drug testing shouldn’t be absolutely *routine* in professional sports. Every NFL, NBA, NHL, MBL game, professional soccer match, all the professional track meets, every Olympics–heck out a year from the Olympics and every month coming into them–every tennis tournament, etc. etc.

     

    While the NBA seems to have a relaxed attitude towards doping (HGH legal until a couple of years ago), it actually is like that, in some sports at least. As we recall, Serena Williams infamously barricaded herself in her bunker until the doping testers left. But it still seems like there are plenty of substances that are not caught on tests. Retesting old samples can yield interesting, or disspiriting, results.

    http://www.nbcolympics.com/news/how-it-works-look-retests-olympic-drug-samples

    https://www.usada.org/usada-retests-samples-unapproved-abused-blood-booster/

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/07/22/olympics-forty-five-more-athletes-caught-for-doping-after-retesting-of-samples/
    , @dr kill
    re: slippery slope.
    I suppose you also bleat about how NSA spying is fine because honest people have nothing to hide. I agree with all your ideas but this one. Test kids in youth and college, fine. But for pro athletes, PEDs are equivalent to a PhD in my line of work.
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  49. @theo the kraut
    At least Mrs Benbow isn't a shit-studied shyster, cf http://www.candicebenbow.com/blog/leavingprinceton

    In 2015, I came to Princeton to get a degree and I am leaving without one.

    I am no longer pursuing a PhD at Princeton Theological Seminary. I was actually dismissed from the program. Though given the opportunity to withdraw from the institution so that I could “preserve any grievances against the Seminary” and “control the narrative”, I did not. I knew to do so would mean to be dishonest about one of the most difficult times of my life and, as I was taught, you don’t do people’s dirty work for them. [...]

    Following my sexual assault, I communicated to my therapist and advisor what took place. Working through the trauma, it became clear that remaining in my apartment was not conducive to my health and wellbeing. Last Fall, I went to Administration and told them what happened to me. I requested a housing reassignment and it was denied. At the beginning of Spring semester, in my apartment, I suffered a panic attack and was diagnosed with PTSD. [...]

    If you dare, go there: https://www.instagram.com/p/BnMjUMCnCaV/?hl=en&taken-by=candicebenbow

    I’d say something snappy to warn off other commenters. But honestly with AnotherMom having dragged us down to retirement beachside, i see stuff like this–and worse–a lot of days. (The beach isn’t really what it used to be.)

    Sad but true what America’s become.

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    I suppose he did warn us ('if you dare'), but I was expecting unhinged leftism rather than a sight which cannot be unseen.
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  50. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:

    The ‘roids make Serena an honorary tranny.

    Hadn’t paid attention to any tennis for decades. Didn’t realize an entire cult protected this spectacle. But it’s a case of all the normal people leaving/vacating the scene.

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  51. njguy73 says:
    @CCZ
    Occasionally a "Becky" fights back, and wins!

    The 92-second video clip reportedly shows Savannah Sprague, a cheerleader for Clayton Valley Charter High School, beating an unidentified black teenage girl who egged her on by challenging her to a fistfight, the New York Post reported.

    “Do you want to fight?” the unidentified black girl asks Sprague, who is seen sitting at a table with several other cheerleaders surrounded by several students.

    “No, nobody wants to fight,” Sprague replies. “You guys want to fight us. Nobody speaks on you guys, nobody talks about you guys.”

    The unidentified black girl then slaps Sprague in the face, starting the brutal beatdown which ended with Sprague body-slamming and pummeling the girl—all while in her cheerleading uniform.

    https://nypost.com/2018/09/10/cheerleader-pummels-girl-who-challenges-her-to-fight/

    Why can’t women be more like men? Just relax, chill out, and play video games.

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  52. anon[259] • Disclaimer says:
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    I foresee more incidents of this type happening in sports as the sanity gap between the USA and the rest of the world widens. The truth that most right-thinking white Americans have internalized (that blacks are to be held to a different, lower standard and allowed to say/do things forbidden to a white person) can never be articulated directly; it's something you pick up over a lifetime of intense social conditioning. Take a person not exposed to that conditioning, put him in a position of power over an American black and you're just asking for trouble. The logical counterarguments (that Serena has a long history of hostile and at times threatening behavior towards officials; that she was clearly losing; that the initial warning was just that, a warning with no penalty attached; that her coach admitted to doing what she was warned for; that her opponent was also a black female) will carry no weight, just as arguments against religious dogma find no audience amongst true believers.

    And that's what this really is: a religious movement amongst the American ruling class, one that in its more extreme form still hasn't quite caught on elsewhere. The United States is turning into Saudi Arabia if it were ruled by the editorial staff of Jezebel.com.

    And that’s what this really is: a religious movement amongst the American ruling class, one that in its more extreme form still hasn’t quite caught on elsewhere.

    What is causing the hate whitey movement? Pick one:
    1. It’s a religious cult. The left and modern people generally have abandoned Christian belief, and once you are cut loose from traditional beliefs any crazy cult will do. Look at the plethora of cults in ancient Rome. Currently Americans are worshiping sacred black vaginas.
    2. Jews making money. This requires dividing and conquering Gentiles, best done with well orchestrated propaganda campaigns attacking whitey. As noted elsewhere, the more brazenly absurd the propaganda lie, the more it humiliates and cows those who see the lie.
    3. Women are stupid. Women, on average, are less reasoning, more emotional, more self-pitying and blaming, and more likely to wallow in bathetic soap opera, than men. As women have risen in the ranks of business and politics the public discourse has degraded.
    4. People are stupid. All people are stupid some of the time, and most people are stupid most of the time. Precious few homo sapiens can distinguish between fallacies and valid argument. The public stumbles from one group stupidity to the next, and Serena worship is just the latest.
    5. All of the above.

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    Gold box!
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  53. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:

    Leftists will drag a society down into a deep valley of stupidity. This is what really irks.

    For example… this asinine phrase in the wapo article title: “Dignity Was Vanquished…”

    The SJWs traffic in overwrought, shallow verbiage. Goofy language constructions are their wheelhouse.

    Anyway, I used to think I was a Deplorable. But now I mostly identify as a Vanquisher of Dignity.

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  54. J.Ross says: • Website
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    People can be forgiven for occasional bad behavior. Pitcher Juan Marichal was a great guy, other than every half dozen years he'd try to kill somebody on the Dodgers. Coach Woody Hays was a great guy other than every so often he'd punch somebody on the sidelines, like an opposing college player or a cameraman.

    People can be forgiven, in the Seventies, but the present couches this event in a normality of unforgiving vindictiveness and dogsembodiment. Also I believe (but could be wrong) the examples you give were less regular than outbursts by Serena.

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    dogsembodiment
     
    According to Google, you are the first person to use this term on the Internet. At least in the Shallow Web.
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  55. anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThirdWorldSteveReader
    This whole Serena affair is ridiculous, really. The only thing that happened was during the match is that she lost to another woman of color. How in hell's name is a black woan losing to a half-blakc woman an issue of... sexism and racism?

    And honestly, she shouldn't even be that pissed. She has lost before, it can't be a novel feeling for her. Serena is 36 already, she was recently a mother, she had a long successful career to proud about. Her loss an athlete 16 years her junior, at this point, is not shameful; her pettiness over the whole episode definitely is.

    In her postmatch interview, Williams said, “I’m here, fighting for women’s rights and for women’s equality and for all kinds of stuff…. Maybe it didn’t work out for me, but it’s going to work out for the next person.” And the fight is a necessary. We saw this no more clearly than when Naomi Osaka tearfully apologized for winning.
     
    Talk about crying in pain as they strike you; now they even say it's for your own good!

    Osaka felt the need to apologize because, you know, the crowd was booing her as her idol was chimping out. At 20 years old, she had to deal with the awkward situation of seeing her seniors behaving like spoiled children.

    How in hell’s name is a black woman losing to a half-black woman an issue of… sexism and racism?

    Simple. Just like the various Awards shows. Blacks and women are supposed to win every single time. If you put two black women against one another, and one is supposed to lose, well then you just haven’t thought this through very well, you racist pig.

    But since (in reality) white males are being eased out of nearly every arena, this sort of tantrum will become ever more common. I, for one, can hardly wait.

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  56. anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lagertha
    Yet, we had Chris Evert there, on-air, the white, older, star tennis player everyone adores, not find her own words during the broadcast at the final/presentation.

    This is all so dumb and worthless. I blame women...women are just such pathetic excuse-spewing losers who must have the last word. Women lost the ability to have joy; and love men, love life. Women are cannibals. Women are major assholes* - they don't even deserve vaginas. Ok, ok, ok...so not all women...but y'all know I hate (most) women.

    Most women (and probably most men as well) are worthy of hate.

    Just human nature at its worst, which is what we’ve been breeding for these past several decades, if not longer.

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  57. No wonder she thinks White people are fools.

    They pay to see her.

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  58. JimB says:

    Black women deserve apologies for every time our self-advocacy was viewed as threatening and antagonistic.

    I saw the clips. Serena Williams could have easily body slammed the Portuguese chair umpire, who looked like he weighed 140 lbs soaking wet. She appeared highly agitated and was accusing him of being a “thief” for docking her a game. She kept circling the umpire and demanding an apology. I’ve seen enough World Star Hip-Hop videos to suspect her next move was to grab his legs and pull him off the chair.

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    I was recently in Portugal and I noticed that this is a fairly common (though not the only) body type for men in Portugal. Certain Portuguese men are built like Vietnamese men - when they are full grown they are the same size as slimly built 12 or 13 year old Northern European boys. Some women are even shorter. They are not short and squat like Mestizos but completely proportional, just on a shrunken scale. I believe this body type emerges in places that have a long history of extreme poverty/calorie deprivation - people who are tiny are better able to survive and reproduce on less food.
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  59. @Lagertha
    Yet, we had Chris Evert there, on-air, the white, older, star tennis player everyone adores, not find her own words during the broadcast at the final/presentation.

    This is all so dumb and worthless. I blame women...women are just such pathetic excuse-spewing losers who must have the last word. Women lost the ability to have joy; and love men, love life. Women are cannibals. Women are major assholes* - they don't even deserve vaginas. Ok, ok, ok...so not all women...but y'all know I hate (most) women.

    Women are major assholes* – they don’t even deserve vaginas.

    Yeah, but men do, so don’t be getting rid of them just yet ….

    If we do end up in a Road Warrior situation, per your previous comment, you’d be the one I’d want to have a Feral Kid with. ;-}

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    hahahahaahaaa once again! Steve is famous now. He should consider setting up a "Meet Up" system for men and women to meet informally, under a not quite Republican, not really Libertarian, certainly not Democrat banner.I 'm joking, duh, but MeetUps are a decent revenue stream. And, I do owe money to our darling, Steve.
    , @Lagertha
    hahhahhaaahaaa. You always get my humor. I am a bit of a dead-give-away; but sometimes, I'm relieved that I don't need to be so dystopian all the time.
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  60. Meanwhile, the NYT has been all over the court on this affair, including at least three pieces today. Among which I call your attention to the one by Salamislah Tillet: “Serena Williams’s Gift to Naomi Osaka, and Women, at the U.S. Open: Rather than remain silent, she insisted on being heard. Rather than contain herself, she used her rage for the countless women silenced by sexism and racism.”

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    Thanks.
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  61. @theo the kraut
    At least Mrs Benbow isn't a shit-studied shyster, cf http://www.candicebenbow.com/blog/leavingprinceton

    In 2015, I came to Princeton to get a degree and I am leaving without one.

    I am no longer pursuing a PhD at Princeton Theological Seminary. I was actually dismissed from the program. Though given the opportunity to withdraw from the institution so that I could “preserve any grievances against the Seminary” and “control the narrative”, I did not. I knew to do so would mean to be dishonest about one of the most difficult times of my life and, as I was taught, you don’t do people’s dirty work for them. [...]

    Following my sexual assault, I communicated to my therapist and advisor what took place. Working through the trauma, it became clear that remaining in my apartment was not conducive to my health and wellbeing. Last Fall, I went to Administration and told them what happened to me. I requested a housing reassignment and it was denied. At the beginning of Spring semester, in my apartment, I suffered a panic attack and was diagnosed with PTSD. [...]

    If you dare, go there: https://www.instagram.com/p/BnMjUMCnCaV/?hl=en&taken-by=candicebenbow

    The line between woke politics and mental illness is pretty thin these days.

    “it was also a rare show of diversity in the exclusive, male-dominated world of tennis”

    I’m unsure how the women’s tournaments are “male-dominated”, unless that’s a really subtle dig at some of the more ‘butch’ ladies.

    It’s like Althea Gibson (should be an iSteve favourite, a good golfer and all-round natural athlete) never existed*.

    * her Winbledon doubles partner was the (Jewish Brit) Angela Buxton, who raised money when she was sick in her last years. Are there many Jewish tennis champions?

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  62. @Tono Bungay
    Meanwhile, the NYT has been all over the court on this affair, including at least three pieces today. Among which I call your attention to the one by Salamislah Tillet: "Serena Williams’s Gift to Naomi Osaka, and Women, at the U.S. Open: Rather than remain silent, she insisted on being heard. Rather than contain herself, she used her rage for the countless women silenced by sexism and racism."

    Thanks.

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  63. @AnotherDad
    I'd say something snappy to warn off other commenters. But honestly with AnotherMom having dragged us down to retirement beachside, i see stuff like this--and worse--a lot of days. (The beach isn't really what it used to be.)

    Sad but true what America's become.

    I suppose he did warn us (‘if you dare’), but I was expecting unhinged leftism rather than a sight which cannot be unseen.

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  64. AndrewR says:
    @anon

    And that’s what this really is: a religious movement amongst the American ruling class, one that in its more extreme form still hasn’t quite caught on elsewhere.
     
    What is causing the hate whitey movement? Pick one:
    1. It's a religious cult. The left and modern people generally have abandoned Christian belief, and once you are cut loose from traditional beliefs any crazy cult will do. Look at the plethora of cults in ancient Rome. Currently Americans are worshiping sacred black vaginas.
    2. Jews making money. This requires dividing and conquering Gentiles, best done with well orchestrated propaganda campaigns attacking whitey. As noted elsewhere, the more brazenly absurd the propaganda lie, the more it humiliates and cows those who see the lie.
    3. Women are stupid. Women, on average, are less reasoning, more emotional, more self-pitying and blaming, and more likely to wallow in bathetic soap opera, than men. As women have risen in the ranks of business and politics the public discourse has degraded.
    4. People are stupid. All people are stupid some of the time, and most people are stupid most of the time. Precious few homo sapiens can distinguish between fallacies and valid argument. The public stumbles from one group stupidity to the next, and Serena worship is just the latest.
    5. All of the above.

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  65. Pericles says:
    @Anonymous
    I foresee more incidents of this type happening in sports as the sanity gap between the USA and the rest of the world widens. The truth that most right-thinking white Americans have internalized (that blacks are to be held to a different, lower standard and allowed to say/do things forbidden to a white person) can never be articulated directly; it's something you pick up over a lifetime of intense social conditioning. Take a person not exposed to that conditioning, put him in a position of power over an American black and you're just asking for trouble. The logical counterarguments (that Serena has a long history of hostile and at times threatening behavior towards officials; that she was clearly losing; that the initial warning was just that, a warning with no penalty attached; that her coach admitted to doing what she was warned for; that her opponent was also a black female) will carry no weight, just as arguments against religious dogma find no audience amongst true believers.

    And that's what this really is: a religious movement amongst the American ruling class, one that in its more extreme form still hasn't quite caught on elsewhere. The United States is turning into Saudi Arabia if it were ruled by the editorial staff of Jezebel.com.

    Here’s the dorm room weed question though: Would you rather live in Pringle Bay … or on MLK Boulevard Jr?

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  66. Pericles says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    And what could only be viewed as the peak of sexism, Williams returned to the game only to be ranked lower after missing games to deliver the baby and take maternity leave
     
    Interesting point, but in the US there is a tendency to want to have a level playing field for all even if there are some hard cases. For example in track and field events the team selected is just the first three finishers in the Olympic trials, whereas in Britain it is quite likely that if a potential medal winner is injured at the time of the trials, a place will be provisionally reserved for him or her, so that if fitness can be proved a medal is not lost.

    In tennis there are rules as to how seeding is done, based on rankings over a certain period of time, and that is it. Too bad if you took out maternity leave, regardless whether you are a man or woman.

    We all want tennis players to be treated equally and fairly, but from the paying spectator point of view, one would probably want to see Serena play even if she is not on top form, and if she is knocked out in the first round when drawn against the top seed, that is not very good for business at the box office or on TV.

    I am not much of a tennis fan, but many years ago I was gifted a pair of free tickets for an early day at Wimbledon, and on an outside court all I saw a not terribly interesting match in which an chunky unseeded teenage German lad beat another unknown rather easily. All a big yawn, though the strawberries were nice.

    Little did I suspect that the German fellow would that year become the first unseeded player to win the men's singles, but he did. As I say, not a big tennis fan.

    but from the paying spectator point of view, one would probably want to see Serena play even if she is not on top form,

    Actually, I’d be quite content to never see Serena Williams again. Not just because of last week’s antics either.

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    Actually, I’d be quite content to never see Serena Williams again. Not just because of last week’s antics either.
     
    Yes, but would you pay to not see her? And are you a tennis fan?
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  67. Pericles says:
    @AnotherDad

    “”Unwarranted drug testing”

    Looks completely warrented to me .
     
    Forget Serena. Or any one you suspect. There's no reason drug testing shouldn't be absolutely *routine* in professional sports. Every NFL, NBA, NHL, MBL game, professional soccer match, all the professional track meets, every Olympics--heck out a year from the Olympics and every month coming into them--every tennis tournament, etc. etc.

    If i'm a clean professional athlete peeing in a cup before the game ain't a big deal, and i'd want everyone to have to do it so the competition is fair.

    There’s no reason drug testing shouldn’t be absolutely *routine* in professional sports. Every NFL, NBA, NHL, MBL game, professional soccer match, all the professional track meets, every Olympics–heck out a year from the Olympics and every month coming into them–every tennis tournament, etc. etc.

    While the NBA seems to have a relaxed attitude towards doping (HGH legal until a couple of years ago), it actually is like that, in some sports at least. As we recall, Serena Williams infamously barricaded herself in her bunker until the doping testers left. But it still seems like there are plenty of substances that are not caught on tests. Retesting old samples can yield interesting, or disspiriting, results.

    http://www.nbcolympics.com/news/how-it-works-look-retests-olympic-drug-samples

    https://www.usada.org/usada-retests-samples-unapproved-abused-blood-booster/

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/07/22/olympics-forty-five-more-athletes-caught-for-doping-after-retesting-of-samples/

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  68. slumber_j says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    Will this ever end?

    Will this ever end?

    Not as long as Women of Color must contend with the “insidious prongs.”

    I’ve thought about your question a lot, and it seems hard to say.

    On the one hand there’s intellectual fashion, which would seem to dictate that people will turn away from this fever-pitch nonsense one day–and maybe soon. On the other hand, I’ve seen increasingly high tides of racial hogwash flowing and ebbing for the forty years since I became a teenager and started noticing.

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  69. “In her postmatch interview, Williams said, “I’m here, fighting for women’s rights and for women’s equality and for all kinds of stuff…. ”

    I think that she is entirely focused on the “all kinds of stuff” none of which have anything to do with anyone or anything other than herself.

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  70. Thirdtwin says:

    “Instead, what we witnessed were the insidious prongs of sexism and racism: ”

    That’s a horrible metaphor. Let’s fix it….

    “Instead, what we witnessed were the insidious progs of sexism and racism: ”

    Much better.

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  71. Anon[284] • Disclaimer says:

    Witness Omarosa’s screaming, shrieking drama now. She’s going full on victim. Claims she was brainwashed by Trump and is revealing herself to be the hateful leftist parasite she always was. In reality she was given chance after chance after chance, and promoted way beyond her ability. She was ultimately fired for throwing a tantrum about not being allowed to have her wedding in the White House. No staff have ever been given this privilege. Like Serena, she came up to a line that she could not cross in spite of her elevated victim status. And, like Serena, her response was to act like a five year old.

    You simply cannot give privileges to any class in society without concomitant responsibilities and accountability. In the olden days even aristocracy, even kings, had accountability. We have fallen into madness as a society. People have no idea what it takes to maintain a functional civilization.

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  72. Thirdtwin says:

    “We deserve apologies for all the times we expressed ourselves and were told we could have said it differently”

    Here’s a clue, blackwomen: 99% of the time, people turn and walk away from your screaming, head-bobbing tantrums because you believe you have a god-given right not to be interrupted. If somebody is actually talking back to you, then you’re probably way over the top, and you really need to be talked down off the ledge.

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  73. slumber_j says:
    @Anon
    https://twitter.com/News24/status/1039215700496330752

    World's most important graph

    You tell this to a white "muh career" girl, its literally Hitler

    Say it in a Third World shithole, its ho-hum.

    That’s weird that they didn’t point out that the President of Tanzania is Samuel L. Jackson.

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  74. @Pericles

    but from the paying spectator point of view, one would probably want to see Serena play even if she is not on top form,

     

    Actually, I'd be quite content to never see Serena Williams again. Not just because of last week's antics either.

    Actually, I’d be quite content to never see Serena Williams again. Not just because of last week’s antics either.

    Yes, but would you pay to not see her? And are you a tennis fan?

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  75. @ThirdWorldSteveReader
    This whole Serena affair is ridiculous, really. The only thing that happened was during the match is that she lost to another woman of color. How in hell's name is a black woan losing to a half-blakc woman an issue of... sexism and racism?

    And honestly, she shouldn't even be that pissed. She has lost before, it can't be a novel feeling for her. Serena is 36 already, she was recently a mother, she had a long successful career to proud about. Her loss an athlete 16 years her junior, at this point, is not shameful; her pettiness over the whole episode definitely is.

    In her postmatch interview, Williams said, “I’m here, fighting for women’s rights and for women’s equality and for all kinds of stuff…. Maybe it didn’t work out for me, but it’s going to work out for the next person.” And the fight is a necessary. We saw this no more clearly than when Naomi Osaka tearfully apologized for winning.
     
    Talk about crying in pain as they strike you; now they even say it's for your own good!

    Osaka felt the need to apologize because, you know, the crowd was booing her as her idol was chimping out. At 20 years old, she had to deal with the awkward situation of seeing her seniors behaving like spoiled children.

    Osaka should have said that Serena was a racist, childish, low-class, unsportsmanlike fool. Hell, I’ll buy something with her name on it for our daughters if she does.

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  76. @b.t.o
    I saw the clip and I was legitimately confused how so many people were defending her behaviour. I thought maybe there was something nuanced I was missing so I went to see what r/tennis was saying about it. Nope....Literally 100% of the sentiment in the subreddit was anti-serena.

    This is a lot like the Caster Semenya fiasco where the closer someone is to the sport the greater chance they will reject the "brave victim" narrative for a more "um... this is ridiculous" frame.

    Reporters of course only care about sports vis-a-vis other more overarching narratives so it is completely predictable that all of the opinion takes (with some exceptions from within the tennis world) are embarrassing identity drivel. Has a reporter ever bothered to ask any actual athletes, officials or coaches off the record what they think about Serena's behaviour?

    The first time you trust a reporter who is not an explicit ally and speak “off the record” will be the first time you are betrayed by that reporter on the record.

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  77. Pericles says:

    Yes, but would you pay to not see her? And are you a tennis fan?

    Not quite the same question as not paying to see her, but if strapped in a chair Clockwork Orange style … I might.

    As to the second question, I hail from the land of Björn Borg, Stefan Edberg and Mats Wilander and saw many of their great games live on TV. Nowadays, interest has declined somewhat.

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  78. DCThrowback says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer
    People can be forgiven for occasional bad behavior. Pitcher Juan Marichal was a great guy, other than every half dozen years he'd try to kill somebody on the Dodgers. Coach Woody Hays was a great guy other than every so often he'd punch somebody on the sidelines, like an opposing college player or a cameraman.

    thoughts on Bobby Knight, Steve?

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  79. Skoal says:

    So, she’s saying “Black women are NOT angry shrews, and besides, they’re absolutely RIGHT to be angry shrews”

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  80. @J.Ross
    People can be forgiven, in the Seventies, but the present couches this event in a normality of unforgiving vindictiveness and dogsembodiment. Also I believe (but could be wrong) the examples you give were less regular than outbursts by Serena.

    dogsembodiment

    According to Google, you are the first person to use this term on the Internet. At least in the Shallow Web.

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    Of course. It comes naturally when you're a level thirty-nine wizard. It's supposed to be from dogsbody. Nagging suspicion: did I mean dogberry? I think so. Dogberrial? Dogberriment?
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  81. @Buzz Mohawk

    But, because Anglo White Males had the unmitigated gall to found the sport of lawn tennis in Victorian times, their legacy of sportsmanship and gentlemanly stiff-upper-lioness continues to poison us all.
     
    Indeed it's a terrible thing if you manage to catch it. It's been nearly eradicated.

    "Stiff-upper-lioness"? Does that describe Serena?

    “Stiff-upper-lioness“? Does that describe Serena?

    Don’t be so catty!

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  82. @b.t.o
    I saw the clip and I was legitimately confused how so many people were defending her behaviour. I thought maybe there was something nuanced I was missing so I went to see what r/tennis was saying about it. Nope....Literally 100% of the sentiment in the subreddit was anti-serena.

    This is a lot like the Caster Semenya fiasco where the closer someone is to the sport the greater chance they will reject the "brave victim" narrative for a more "um... this is ridiculous" frame.

    Reporters of course only care about sports vis-a-vis other more overarching narratives so it is completely predictable that all of the opinion takes (with some exceptions from within the tennis world) are embarrassing identity drivel. Has a reporter ever bothered to ask any actual athletes, officials or coaches off the record what they think about Serena's behaviour?

    I get the sense that a lot of tennis fans around the world see this as just another example of ugly American behavior, without much reference to gender or race.

    Intersectionality is a hideous bitch-goddess.

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  83. anon[209] • Disclaimer says:

    All media consumers deserve an apology from the FCC for being exposed to Serena’s hideous moles without a warning.

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  84. Anon[399] • Disclaimer says:

    Remember Serena’s “Do you know who I am? Do you KNOW who I AM?!” moment, when she told the official that he would never work another of her matches again?

    Well … dog bites man.

    Report Claims Tennis Umpires Are Considering a Boycott of Serena Williams’s Matches

    https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/09/serena-williams-naomi-osaka-us-open-controversy-umpires

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  85. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Reg Cæsar

    dogsembodiment
     
    According to Google, you are the first person to use this term on the Internet. At least in the Shallow Web.

    Of course. It comes naturally when you’re a level thirty-nine wizard. It’s supposed to be from dogsbody. Nagging suspicion: did I mean dogberry? I think so. Dogberrial? Dogberriment?

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  86. It comes naturally when you’re a level thirty-nine wizard.

    Does that outrank a 33rd-degree Mason?

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  87. Jack D says:
    @ThreeCranes
    The other day I pulled into the parking lot of my bank. As I got out of my car to head into the building I spotted a well-dressed black woman who was also getting out of her car. She displayed the attitude and body language of the woman who penned this Glamour piece (and of Serena herself).

    She too was heading towards the front door and I, seeing that we would arrive there at roughly the same time, paused and leaned back into my car from my still open door in order to fidget with the somethingorother on the floor behind the drivers seat, leaving her free to navigate through the bank's front door without my interference.

    I could tell by her body language that she knew just what I was up to, but I didn't care what she thought about me. I had no desire to place myself in proximity to an entitled black woman who would be putting me to the test, so to speak.

    Two weeks ago I was driving on a long car trip. I pulled into a drive-through for some junk food. A very sweet young black woman handed me my food. I gave her a dollar tip and thanked her for brightening my day with her (truly) beautiful smile. She thanked me profusely in return.

    I'm not (too much of) a racist. I just don't like feeling as though my every encounter with a black person is a test of some kind; which is just what these social jihadists are pushing on us.

    Do you really think that your token tip is sufficient reparations for 300 years of black oppression, you filthy racist? That proud black woman should have throw the dollar back into your face and demanded the keys to your car, which itself would be small recompense for 3 centuries of rape.

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  88. Jack D says:
    @JimB

    Black women deserve apologies for every time our self-advocacy was viewed as threatening and antagonistic.
     
    I saw the clips. Serena Williams could have easily body slammed the Portuguese chair umpire, who looked like he weighed 140 lbs soaking wet. She appeared highly agitated and was accusing him of being a “thief” for docking her a game. She kept circling the umpire and demanding an apology. I’ve seen enough World Star Hip-Hop videos to suspect her next move was to grab his legs and pull him off the chair.

    I was recently in Portugal and I noticed that this is a fairly common (though not the only) body type for men in Portugal. Certain Portuguese men are built like Vietnamese men – when they are full grown they are the same size as slimly built 12 or 13 year old Northern European boys. Some women are even shorter. They are not short and squat like Mestizos but completely proportional, just on a shrunken scale. I believe this body type emerges in places that have a long history of extreme poverty/calorie deprivation – people who are tiny are better able to survive and reproduce on less food.

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    I believe this body type emerges in places that have a long history of extreme poverty/calorie deprivation – people who are tiny are better able to survive and reproduce on less food.
     
    Or it’s a founders effect and they have a purer bloodline.
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  89. JimB says:
    @Jack D
    I was recently in Portugal and I noticed that this is a fairly common (though not the only) body type for men in Portugal. Certain Portuguese men are built like Vietnamese men - when they are full grown they are the same size as slimly built 12 or 13 year old Northern European boys. Some women are even shorter. They are not short and squat like Mestizos but completely proportional, just on a shrunken scale. I believe this body type emerges in places that have a long history of extreme poverty/calorie deprivation - people who are tiny are better able to survive and reproduce on less food.

    I believe this body type emerges in places that have a long history of extreme poverty/calorie deprivation – people who are tiny are better able to survive and reproduce on less food.

    Or it’s a founders effect and they have a purer bloodline.

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  90. dr kill says:
    @AnotherDad

    “”Unwarranted drug testing”

    Looks completely warrented to me .
     
    Forget Serena. Or any one you suspect. There's no reason drug testing shouldn't be absolutely *routine* in professional sports. Every NFL, NBA, NHL, MBL game, professional soccer match, all the professional track meets, every Olympics--heck out a year from the Olympics and every month coming into them--every tennis tournament, etc. etc.

    If i'm a clean professional athlete peeing in a cup before the game ain't a big deal, and i'd want everyone to have to do it so the competition is fair.

    re: slippery slope.
    I suppose you also bleat about how NSA spying is fine because honest people have nothing to hide. I agree with all your ideas but this one. Test kids in youth and college, fine. But for pro athletes, PEDs are equivalent to a PhD in my line of work.

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  91. Lagertha says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Women are major assholes* – they don’t even deserve vaginas.
     
    Yeah, but men do, so don't be getting rid of them just yet ....

    If we do end up in a Road Warrior situation, per your previous comment, you'd be the one I'd want to have a Feral Kid with. ;-}

    hahahahaahaaa once again! Steve is famous now. He should consider setting up a “Meet Up” system for men and women to meet informally, under a not quite Republican, not really Libertarian, certainly not Democrat banner.I ‘m joking, duh, but MeetUps are a decent revenue stream. And, I do owe money to our darling, Steve.

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  92. Lagertha says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Women are major assholes* – they don’t even deserve vaginas.
     
    Yeah, but men do, so don't be getting rid of them just yet ....

    If we do end up in a Road Warrior situation, per your previous comment, you'd be the one I'd want to have a Feral Kid with. ;-}

    hahhahhaaahaaa. You always get my humor. I am a bit of a dead-give-away; but sometimes, I’m relieved that I don’t need to be so dystopian all the time.

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  93. Paul says:

    So it turns out that the Hispanic chair umpire is to blame for following the rules. How is that multiculturalism thing working out in tennis?

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  94. Shhhhh…… her Coach ADMITTED on camera he was coaching her, no apology was forthcoming because she was guilty.
    Then to the expected: but “Everyone does it” excuse which is likely true yet it still is against the rules. So she was cheating, she was not defending women’s rights, she was throwing a tantrum to be exempt from the rules.
    As a Father of 5 I have learned that: right or wrong – tantrums are NEVER rewarded. If the rule needs to be changed, and I believe it should, this is not the way to address it.

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  95. Technomad says:

    I was never a tennis player, but we had a tennis team when I was in high school. And the coach was an absolute disciplinarian. Anybody throwing a fit on the court of this magnitude, no matter how good a player they were, was off the team and never got another chance. Ever.

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