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https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1156740643789705216

From the Democratic debate:

GILLIBRAND: So I don’t believe that it’s the responsibility of Cory and Kamala to be the only voice that takes on these issues of institutional racism, systemic racism in our country. I think as a white woman of privilege, who is a U.S. senator, running for president of the United States, it is also my responsibility to lift up those voices that aren’t being listened to.

And I can talk to those white women in the suburbs that voted for Trump and explain to them what white privilege actually is, that when their son is walking down a street with a bag of M&Ms in his pocket, wearing a hoodie, his whiteness is what protects him from not being shot.

(APPLAUSE)

When his – when her – when their child has a car that breaks down, and he knocks on someone’s door for help, and the door opens, and the help is given, it’s his whiteness that protects him from being shot. That is what white privilege in America is today. And so, my responsibility’s to only lift up those stories, but explain to communities across America, like I did in Youngstown, Ohio, to a young mother, that this is all of our responsibilities, and that together we can make our community stronger.

From Vox:

Question: I hear you saying there is a lot of divisive language coming from Republicans, coming from Trump and that we are looking for ways to blame each other. But the Democratic Party loves to throw around terms like white privilege. Now this is an area that across all demographics has been depressed because of the loss of its industry and the opioids crisis. So what do you have to say to people in this area about so-called white privilege?

Gillibrand: So, I understand that families in this community are suffering deeply. I am fully hear from you and folks that I’ve talked to just in a few minutes that I’ve been here, that is devastating when you’ve lost your job, you’ve lost your ability to provide for your kids, that when you put 20, 30 years into a company that all of the sudden doesn’t care about you or won’t call you back and gives you a day to move. That is not acceptable and not okay. So no one in that circumstance is privileged on any level, but that’s not what that conversation is about.

Question: What is it about?

Gillibrand: I’m going to explain.

What the conversation is about is when a community has been left behind for generations because of the color of their skin. When you’ve been denied job, after job, after job because you’re black or because you’re brown. Or when you go to the emergency room to have your baby. The fact that we have the highest maternal mortality rate and if you are a black woman you are four times more likely to die in childbirth because that healthcare provider doesn’t believe you when you say I don’t feel right. Because he doesn’t value you. Or because she doesn’t value you.

So institutional racism is real. It doesn’t take away your pain or suffering. It’s just a different issue. Your suffering is just as important as a black or brown person’s suffering but to fix the problems that are happening in a black community you need far more transformational efforts that targeted for real racism that exists every day.

So if your son, is 15 years old and smokes pot. He smokes pot just as much as black boy in his neighborhood and the Latino boy in his neighborhood. But that black and brown boy is four times more likely to get arrested. When he’s arrested that criminal justice system might require him to pay bail. 500 bucks. That kid does not have 500 bucks he might not be able to make bail. As an adult with a child at home and he’s a single parent, if he is thrown in jail no one is with his child. It doesn’t matter what he says, I have to go home, I have a child at home, he’s only 12. What am I going to do. It doesn’t matter.

Imagine as a parent how you would feel so helpless. That’s institutional racism. Your son will likely not have to deal with that because he is white. So when someone says white privilege, that is all they are talking about. That his whiteness will mean that a police officer might give him a second chance. It might mean that he doesn’t get incarcerated because he had just smoked a joint with his girlfriend. It might mean that he won’t have to post bail. It means he might be able to show up to work the next day and lose his job and not be in the cycle of poverty that never ends. That’s all it is.

But it doesn’t mean that [doesn’t] deserve my voice, lifting up your challenge. It also doesn’t mean that black and brown people are left to fight these challenges on their own. A white woman like me who is a senator and running for president of the United States. Has to lift up their voice just as much as I would lift up yours. That’s all it means. It doesn’t take away from you at all. It just means we have to recognize suffering in all its forms and solve it in each place intentionally and with knowledge about what we are up against.

Gillibrand’s answer was met with applause in the room.

 
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  1. Please tell me more about how both parties and political poles are equally legitimate participants in the political system.

    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    "When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."
  2. Don’t slam another guy’s head to the sidewalk, and you probably won’t get shot.

    • Agree: jim jones, Hail
    • Replies: @Ancient Briton
    The M&Ms saved him - it's Skittles that is killer bait.
  3. She has a very nice looking family.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    She has a very nice looking family.
     
    Agree. She's a reasonably attractive woman, nice looking boys. She should have kept trying until she had at least a couple girls as well ... and spared us from all this tedious crap.

    The world would be better off if most college educated white women used their wombs more and their mouths less. They--and their children's future--would be happier as well.

  4. Why the hell has nobody gone rogue yet in the Democratic primaries and just set up a YouTube channel and Twitter and just unloaded on all this nonsense. Bernie Sanders but much younger and fearless? Trump demonstrated that Howard Dean was just too soon and insufficiently radical to make such a model work. But the biggest single media vectors in the world right now are free to use with no initial gatekeepers.

    Have the incentives in society become so intense that anyone with anything to lose won’t do it. It’s incredible. As others noted, this is how autocratic and totalitarian regimes fall, cowing the public into a seething display of false preferences until they believe the public thinks like they do that society exists to enrich it’s elite. The establishment being shocked when one day something happens to trigger it’s downfall. They don’t see the magma chamber growing under the volcano.

    It’s been several years now and nobody in the respective press is consistently going on about how the political elites have allowed so much of public policy to be taken out of democratic debate that only those with little concern of how others perceive them are able to address these topics that have been sorely neglected for decades.

    How is Boris Johnson the only senior political figure in Britain capable of even pivoting a tiny bit to deal with new political realities? The establishment has learned nothing and forgotten nothing.

    This should be the response on Twitter all day for the DNC. You want Donald Trump gone? You can get that any time. Any time you like to promote a candidate that wants to talk sanely about immigration. Any time you like you can promote a candidate that wants to end wars for Israel or regulate investment banks. If you fail to do these things I can only conclude that the inverse of those policies are much more important to you than removing Trump and I can only wonder what your real problem with Trump is.

    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
    Still spouting nonsense, just at a higher decibel level.
    Howard Dean makes as much sense as Trump.
    Wait, Dean doesn't have a super bitch daughter married to a Jew, does he?
    Maybe I would vote for Dean.
    Biden has his son Hunter, who is far up Ukraine's Nazi ass.

    The problem with the D's is they are D's.
    The problem with the R's is they are R's.

    Manufactured reality with pre-fab binary choices that seem to be the same dish. War, Misery, and Profit.
    , @Hypnotoad666

    You want Donald Trump gone? You can get that any time. Any time you like to promote a candidate that wants to talk sanely about immigration. Any time you like you can promote a candidate that wants to end wars for Israel or regulate investment banks.
     
    You make a good, practical political point. In a crowded field like this, the most important thing is to stand out from the crowd in some way.

    Yet all 20 Democrat candidates seem to believe that they also need to be uniformly party-line on all 20 issues as well. Why doesn't someone stand out by bucking the progressive orthodoxy on just one issue? And immigration would be perfect.

    Imagine if just one candidate had said "I'm all for Socialism, just like you guys, but because I want to keep the taxpayer-funded benefits of socialism for Americans only, I'd seal up the border." A ton of Democrats believe this (or did, as of two years ago), and they'd all flock to that candidate.

    Someone is leaving a lot of votes on the table.
    , @Jack D
    Are you SURE these are winning positions? They are winning positions with YOU and another 5 or 10 WNs, but are they really winning positions with Dem. primary voters? Don't mistake your preferences for those of the electorate, esp. the Dem. base. If they are, why are all these candidates leaving these votes on the table? Not a one of them, even the guys polling at 1% are willing to pick all this low hanging fruit? Are all 20 or 30 of them bought off by the Joos? Where is Trump's challenger from the right?
  5. What the conversation is about is when a community has been left behind for generations because of the color of their skin. When you’ve been denied job, after job, after job because you’re black or because you’re brown.

    Currently, there are record high employment rates for women, blacks and Hispanics.

    O Internet, is my male whiteness giving me special privileges?

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11300028

    White male labor participation in 1960 – 87.5 percent
    White male labor participation in 2019 – 71.8 percent

    Who will speak for my community?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    The employment-to-population ratio for men-in-general between the ages of 25 and 55 is 0.865. The remainder are divided between those who are temporarily unemployed, those who are ill or disabled, and those not working for some other reason. Reported illness and disability account for not quite half of this, interstitial unemployment for about 30%. The main reason fewer adult men are working is that they have the option to retire in old age. Secondary reasons would be the availability of disability benefits. The third would be the increased number of years people stay in school.
  6. I looked up “dumb blonde” in the urban dictionary and it showed her picture.

    • Replies: @Michigan Patriot
    Amen !
  7. All of the Democrats will get White children shot, regardless of whether they win or not. The only difference is how much.

    Incidentally, they will also get (more) black children (like Trayvon) shot.

  8. Come on, who can believe a word she says, after all she’s a self evident self admitted Privileged White Blonde Woman which means she’s the Enemy. If some think the idea of her being a Woman will continue to provide wokemon points, well no. Sure they are useful idiots for the time being until the more obvious demographic waning of Whites, but People of Color are all aware that when White Women breed with White Men pure White children result. And in fact they are the only ones capable of so doing, so no she shouldn’t be considered an alley of sacred Black&Brown Peoples. Instead she’s just a Typical Evil White sweet talking her way into continuing survival in an America that many in the Left hope will be a New South Africa. Or if Antifa gets its way, a new bloody Haiti.

  9. It is very interesting that both Noam Chomsky and Andrew Yang admit to the reality of White Genocide…The fact of White Genocide at this point in time is manifestly obvious….

    But what is Noam Chomky’s and Andrew Yang’s solution to the reality of WHITE GENOCIDE?

    Answer:Open Borders Policy for Nonwhite LEGAL IMMIGRANTS…..And this, of course, is the policy of WHITE GENOCIDE!!!…..So…..what Noam Chomsky and Andrew Yang are offering as a solution to the problem of WHITE GENOCIDE!!!!……is an even greater scale of WHITE GENOCIDE!!!

    Think about it…………….

  10. @Anon7
    What the conversation is about is when a community has been left behind for generations because of the color of their skin. When you’ve been denied job, after job, after job because you’re black or because you’re brown.

    Currently, there are record high employment rates for women, blacks and Hispanics.

    O Internet, is my male whiteness giving me special privileges?

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11300028

    White male labor participation in 1960 - 87.5 percent
    White male labor participation in 2019 - 71.8 percent

    Who will speak for my community?

    The employment-to-population ratio for men-in-general between the ages of 25 and 55 is 0.865. The remainder are divided between those who are temporarily unemployed, those who are ill or disabled, and those not working for some other reason. Reported illness and disability account for not quite half of this, interstitial unemployment for about 30%. The main reason fewer adult men are working is that they have the option to retire in old age. Secondary reasons would be the availability of disability benefits. The third would be the increased number of years people stay in school.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    Good breakdown data Art.

    I'm sure i could get off--actually spend more time on--my lazy ass and hunt some of this down. Would you mind sharing the various links you used to rough out this picture?
  11. When his – when her – when their child has a car that breaks down, and he knocks on someone’s door for help, and the door opens, and the help is given, it’s his whiteness that protects him from being shot.

    That’s her example of white privilege? This woman’s a maniac. I can only assume she was referring to the incident in Detroit where Renisha crashed her car and then banged on a random man’s front door like Chip Douglas in “Cable Guy.” The homeowner perceived a threat and unloaded on her. Probably unwise since he’s now in prison, but would he have reacted differently if it was a white meth tweaker bashing his door? Highly doubtful.

    It is interesting how the narrative was cleaned up for the woke patrol. Her car didn’t “break down” — she was drunk and crashed it. She didn’t knock on the door, she tried to bust it down. This is just one lie piled on top of another. Trump looks like George Washington compared to these people.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    But her car COULD have just broken down, and she COULD have been politely knocking on the door!
    , @Art Deco
    What gets you is that she's either completely innumerate or she's a malicious liar. The number of blacks killed by non-blacks in this country averages about 600 people a year, and, of course the circumstances vary from one such encounter to another. A great many of these are indubitably domestic disputes between inter-racial couples and others are bar fights. A metropolitan commuter belt has 60 homicides a year and you're making hay about two of them (of which one or both are likely sadly unremarkable as to their causes).
    , @Pericles

    When his – when her – when their child has a car that breaks down, and he knocks on someone’s door for help, and the door opens, and the help is given, it’s his whiteness that protects him from being shot.

     

    And yet:

    British tourists James Kouzaris and James Cooper, who accidentally wandered into a crime-plagued housing project in Florida, were shot dead by a teenager after pleading for their lives, a court heard yesterday.

     

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9161871/Florida-holiday-Britons-who-took-wrong-turn-shot-dead.html
    , @Jack D
    Renisha was at .218% at the time of her death, which was two hours after the crash. Either she drank even more after the crash (the 2 hours are unaccounted for) or her BAC was even higher at the time of the crash. The legal limit is .08%.

    After the crash the owner of the vehicle that Renisha sideswiped called 911 but Detroit being Detroit the cops did not come. It was only a car crash, no one was dead yet.

    Renisha pounded on the door at around 3:30 AM, in a white neighborhood 3 miles from the scene of the crash, awakening the homeowner from a sound sleep, so he was not necessarily thinking clearly. I'm not sure what I would do if a drunken Negro started pounding on my door in the middle of the night either.
  12. Everytime Democrats start complaining about the number of black children getting shot the number of black children getting shot just goes up. It’s almost like they’re trying to kill off black children or something. If they talk a little more we may soon not have any blacks left in this country at all.

    • Replies: @bruce county
    OMG NO!!!!! Please .. no..that would be horrible....
  13. Was this a debate or a Joe Biden lemon session to reassure POC voters that he will stay Woke in the White House after he defeats Trump?

    Seriously, does anyone think Biden isn’t going to be nominated? And if he strokes out at 80, his VP Elizabeth Warren will take over. And Progressives will get what they wanted all along, an extreme left wing woman president.

    • Replies: @Icy Blast
    Oh please. Biden can't even speak English coherently. The Powers That Be want your girl Kamala. Biden's just there to prove that white people are stupid. It's not like they've ever invented anything or founded the country or anything like that.
    , @gabriel alberton
    Warren is 70. Were she elected president in 2020, she'd be the oldest person ever to become president of the United States, at 71, one year older than Trump. I believe that she'd also be the oldest vice president ever, but I'm not sure.
    , @Duke84
    There's no way they would have two whites on the same ticket even if Warren claims to be an Indian.
  14. If you listen carefully, Senator Gillibrand is saying that Blacks cannot participate in an industrial society except as crippled children, and should be treated like crippled children. Women tend to have a soft spot for crippled children.

    The issue would have to be re-framed in terms women care about: “POC women have frozen out white women and been cruel and catty. POC men can’t make it in the US, turn their neighborhoods to trash, and try hide it by abusing any white women foolish enough to permit it.”

    Counterinsurgency

  15. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    Gillibrand believes in vicarious human sacrifice of whites in order to appease the ‘great and worthy’ dark skinned gods of her own particular pantheon.

    – just as long as it’s her or hers that’s being sacrificed – just some other random white schmuck down the road.

    • Agree: Clyde
  16. @L Woods
    Please tell me more about how both parties and political poles are equally legitimate participants in the political system.

    “When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”

    • Agree: Ron Mexico, OEMIKITLOB
    • Replies: @Hail

    it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another
     
    Hold it right there --

    We'll have to clear this with a federal judge first. He/she might issue an injunction. If so, we'll have no choice but to respect it, and go back to Monitoring the Situation.

  17. @Bragadocious

    When his – when her – when their child has a car that breaks down, and he knocks on someone’s door for help, and the door opens, and the help is given, it’s his whiteness that protects him from being shot.

     

    That's her example of white privilege? This woman's a maniac. I can only assume she was referring to the incident in Detroit where Renisha crashed her car and then banged on a random man's front door like Chip Douglas in "Cable Guy." The homeowner perceived a threat and unloaded on her. Probably unwise since he's now in prison, but would he have reacted differently if it was a white meth tweaker bashing his door? Highly doubtful.

    It is interesting how the narrative was cleaned up for the woke patrol. Her car didn't "break down" -- she was drunk and crashed it. She didn't knock on the door, she tried to bust it down. This is just one lie piled on top of another. Trump looks like George Washington compared to these people.

    But her car COULD have just broken down, and she COULD have been politely knocking on the door!

  18. @Bragadocious

    When his – when her – when their child has a car that breaks down, and he knocks on someone’s door for help, and the door opens, and the help is given, it’s his whiteness that protects him from being shot.

     

    That's her example of white privilege? This woman's a maniac. I can only assume she was referring to the incident in Detroit where Renisha crashed her car and then banged on a random man's front door like Chip Douglas in "Cable Guy." The homeowner perceived a threat and unloaded on her. Probably unwise since he's now in prison, but would he have reacted differently if it was a white meth tweaker bashing his door? Highly doubtful.

    It is interesting how the narrative was cleaned up for the woke patrol. Her car didn't "break down" -- she was drunk and crashed it. She didn't knock on the door, she tried to bust it down. This is just one lie piled on top of another. Trump looks like George Washington compared to these people.

    What gets you is that she’s either completely innumerate or she’s a malicious liar. The number of blacks killed by non-blacks in this country averages about 600 people a year, and, of course the circumstances vary from one such encounter to another. A great many of these are indubitably domestic disputes between inter-racial couples and others are bar fights. A metropolitan commuter belt has 60 homicides a year and you’re making hay about two of them (of which one or both are likely sadly unremarkable as to their causes).

    • Replies: @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    What gets you is that she’s either completely innumerate or she’s a malicious liar.

    I suspect she's both.

    Isn't this a prerequisite to be a "legitimate" Democratic Presidential candidate?
    , @Jack D

    A metropolitan commuter belt has 60 homicides a year and you’re making hay about two of them (of which one or both are likely sadly unremarkable as to their causes).
     
    Detroit itself has around 250 or 300 homicides per year - a little less than 1 per day, most of which involve blacks shooting other blacks. Over a decade this adds up to thousands of homicides and across the country adds up to tens of thousands.

    And yet the only homicides that "matter" are the rare occasions when a white person shoots a black. Why is that?
  19. @Hannah Katz
    I looked up "dumb blonde" in the urban dictionary and it showed her picture.

    Amen !

  20. This…creature…is emblematic of the 15-65 year old female population in upstate New York.

  21. Gilly’s strategy is to complain about the Unbearable Whiteness of her home district and disown every policy position that got her elected to Congress in the first place.

    Oh, and ditch her wholesome image by cursing like a sailor.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    She grew up in greater Albany, and attended the Emma Willard School in Troy, NY. Her family was and is very well connected politically. The district she represented had swatches of Rensselaer county, but was overwhelmingly exurban, small town and rural and consisted of places to which she was a stranger. She only ran in the district twice and she had optimal conditions for a Democrat, conditions which had dissipated by 2010 and allowed a temporizing Republican to take the district. (The district's been broken up since). It's a reasonable wager that she and her husband were seldom there except when she was making the rounds. (Her successor Chris Gibson grew up in Columbia County and returned to the Hudson Valley after he got out of the Army; Gillibrand made her career in New York City, bouncing between political staff jobs and positions in politically-connected law firms).

    What's interesting about Gillibrand is that she is privileged in the strict sense, in as much as I don't think you could find anyone who has represented Upstate in the last 20 years whose life has been so permeated by the benefits of who-you-know. The guy who represented the Adirondack region when I was in that district was a small-practice lawyer from Plattsburgh - just another local burgess. Her successor Gibson was a soldier-academic who had made his career in the Army. The chaps representing the district next door to hers were a (1) a civil engineer and (2) the guy who founded the band Orleans.

  22. So I don’t believe that it’s the responsibility

    Could some up and coming politician please declare war on the use of the redundant ‘so’.

  23. Gillibrand: I’m going to explain.

    Right there is the problem.

    …it’s his whiteness that protects him from being shot.

    I bet she didn’t use that line running in her upstate district years ago.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    …it’s his whiteness that protects him from being shot.
     
    So is Gillibrand saying that blacks need more whiteness? That would actually sort of make sense, so it's probably not what she meant.

    Do you think the cops would shoot this guy?

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e0/Steve_Urkel.jpg/220px-Steve_Urkel.jpg
    , @OEMIKITLOB
    Lol button used and I agree.

    H.L. Mencken's prescience of the political state of affairs in the U.S. is going to be proven correct soon enough:

    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    I believed "W" was the one, but, then came Barry and now The Donald. It's all downhill from here.
  24. Gillibrand has achieved success — she’s a complete idiot. Her answers are replete with logical fallacies displaying ignorance of black infant mortality, hint — prenatal care is not cigarettes and eating Twinkies. Blacks shoot each other at a fairly high rate, whites don’t necessarily open their door to white strangers, showing up on time at the job is the first step to success, the list goes on. The woman is a walking IQ failure.

  25. Or when you go to the emergency room to have your baby. The fact that we have the highest maternal mortality rate and if you are a black woman you are four times more likely to die in childbirth because that healthcare provider doesn’t believe you when you say I don’t feel right. Because he doesn’t value you. Or because she doesn’t value you.

    She assumes there are white people treating minorities in the hospitals. When I go to hospitals there are no or almost no white staff. This is not just Hawaii, there are no whites, well a few, in Atlanta also. Blame the pakistani doctor and the fillipina nurses for bad outcomes for black patients. In fact maybe we should blame minorities and foreigners for our shambles of a medical system. OHHH half the white people working in hospitals are a subset of white people that are sometimes not considered white. The medical system in the USA is the New America, Jewish and foreign doctors and minority and foreign staff, the medicine is terrible. The cash Mexican system is better.

    • Replies: @Alden
    I agree about minority foreign Drs and staff. But the Jewish Drs seem to have disappeared. The Jewish attorneys who rammed through Griggs vs Duke Power and Kaiser vs Weber didn’t realize that Jews are White too.

    You should see the medical students in California. Half Asian women maybe 1 black 2 dark Hispanics. The men 45 % Asian & Indian, the rest a couple Hispanics and an African black. And the Asians generally aren’t American.
  26. This is nonsense. Every DA is looking for the great white defendant to throw the book at. They are also eager to plea bargin every non-white person that comes their way.

  27. So I don’t believe that it’s the responsibility of Cory and Kamala to be the only voice that takes on these issues of institutional racism, systemic racism in our country. I think as a white woman of privilege, who is a U.S. senator, running for president of the United States

    You admit you are privileged- as a US Senator you are the top 1% of the top 1% of the top 1%. Why the [email protected] are you then clawing for more of the privilege you claim to be against by running for President?

  28. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Gilly's strategy is to complain about the Unbearable Whiteness of her home district and disown every policy position that got her elected to Congress in the first place.

    Oh, and ditch her wholesome image by cursing like a sailor.

    She grew up in greater Albany, and attended the Emma Willard School in Troy, NY. Her family was and is very well connected politically. The district she represented had swatches of Rensselaer county, but was overwhelmingly exurban, small town and rural and consisted of places to which she was a stranger. She only ran in the district twice and she had optimal conditions for a Democrat, conditions which had dissipated by 2010 and allowed a temporizing Republican to take the district. (The district’s been broken up since). It’s a reasonable wager that she and her husband were seldom there except when she was making the rounds. (Her successor Chris Gibson grew up in Columbia County and returned to the Hudson Valley after he got out of the Army; Gillibrand made her career in New York City, bouncing between political staff jobs and positions in politically-connected law firms).

    What’s interesting about Gillibrand is that she is privileged in the strict sense, in as much as I don’t think you could find anyone who has represented Upstate in the last 20 years whose life has been so permeated by the benefits of who-you-know. The guy who represented the Adirondack region when I was in that district was a small-practice lawyer from Plattsburgh – just another local burgess. Her successor Gibson was a soldier-academic who had made his career in the Army. The chaps representing the district next door to hers were a (1) a civil engineer and (2) the guy who founded the band Orleans.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    She grew up in greater Albany, and attended the Emma Willard School in Troy, NY.
     
    The city that gave us both Uncle Sam and Santa Claus!

    https://www.brownstoner.com/history/walkabout-a-visit-from-st-nichols-a-troy-story/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Wilson

    Two characters whom Democrats have traditionally confused.

    When the city's last major league ballclub went bankrupt, its franchise in the National League was awarded to the future Giants. That's the club that recently built a new stadium almost entirely with private capital... and apologized for it!

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose

    I don’t think you could find anyone who has represented Upstate in the last 20 years whose life has been so permeated by the benefits of who-you-know
     
    .

    I'll say. Knowing Chuck Schumer helped, since it got her a Senate seat.

    When she was running for Congress she was what people used to call a moderate, opposed licenses for illegals, decent for a Dem on guns. She now portrays herself as hopelessly naive at the time and blames her backward district for it, instead of admitting she was hopelessly cynical and lying to the rubes to get elected.
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    What’s interesting about Gillibrand is that she is privileged in the strict sense, in as much as I don’t think you could find anyone who has represented Upstate in the last 20 years whose life has been so permeated by the benefits of who-you-know.
     
    She really is the worst kind of shamelessly ambitious phony.
    , @Alden
    Emma Willard was she a debutante too? Traitor
  29. Someone should tell Senator Gillibrand that Latino women ( mostly Mexican and Central American ) have lower infant mortality than white women. So in her formulation does that mean they are enjoying brown privilege over both whites and blacks? I love how she implies whites and blacks both commit crimes equally often, it’s just those racist cops who keep shooting black bodies. Let’s also not forget companies, particularly big ones just won’t hire black people! What country does she live in? Not in the Union of Soviet Socialist America.

  30. The Pacific is so wide it contains its own antipodes, off the coasts of Vietnam and Hainan Island and those of Peru and Chile. To get lithium from the Atacama Salt Flats to the battery factory in Haiphong would be shorter going over Africa and the Bay of Bengal.

    In the same way, white Americans’ thought is equally extreme within the same population.

    Other races’ thought seems to be frozen within tighter bounds, like the Arctic Ocean, or more derivative of others’, like the Southern Ocean.

    The Pacific Ocean Contains its Own Antipode: It Covers Half the Circumference of the Earth in One Place

  31. @Bragadocious

    When his – when her – when their child has a car that breaks down, and he knocks on someone’s door for help, and the door opens, and the help is given, it’s his whiteness that protects him from being shot.

     

    That's her example of white privilege? This woman's a maniac. I can only assume she was referring to the incident in Detroit where Renisha crashed her car and then banged on a random man's front door like Chip Douglas in "Cable Guy." The homeowner perceived a threat and unloaded on her. Probably unwise since he's now in prison, but would he have reacted differently if it was a white meth tweaker bashing his door? Highly doubtful.

    It is interesting how the narrative was cleaned up for the woke patrol. Her car didn't "break down" -- she was drunk and crashed it. She didn't knock on the door, she tried to bust it down. This is just one lie piled on top of another. Trump looks like George Washington compared to these people.

    When his – when her – when their child has a car that breaks down, and he knocks on someone’s door for help, and the door opens, and the help is given, it’s his whiteness that protects him from being shot.

    And yet:

    British tourists James Kouzaris and James Cooper, who accidentally wandered into a crime-plagued housing project in Florida, were shot dead by a teenager after pleading for their lives, a court heard yesterday.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9161871/Florida-holiday-Britons-who-took-wrong-turn-shot-dead.html

    • Replies: @Alden
    Are Florida blacks still lying in wait around airports to follow tourists for robbery rape and murder?

    I can tell you what the English newspapers will say about this. They’ll claim the gun opened the drawer, jumped to the floor, opened the door rolled out of the house and shot the tourists all by itself.
  32. @Art Deco
    She grew up in greater Albany, and attended the Emma Willard School in Troy, NY. Her family was and is very well connected politically. The district she represented had swatches of Rensselaer county, but was overwhelmingly exurban, small town and rural and consisted of places to which she was a stranger. She only ran in the district twice and she had optimal conditions for a Democrat, conditions which had dissipated by 2010 and allowed a temporizing Republican to take the district. (The district's been broken up since). It's a reasonable wager that she and her husband were seldom there except when she was making the rounds. (Her successor Chris Gibson grew up in Columbia County and returned to the Hudson Valley after he got out of the Army; Gillibrand made her career in New York City, bouncing between political staff jobs and positions in politically-connected law firms).

    What's interesting about Gillibrand is that she is privileged in the strict sense, in as much as I don't think you could find anyone who has represented Upstate in the last 20 years whose life has been so permeated by the benefits of who-you-know. The guy who represented the Adirondack region when I was in that district was a small-practice lawyer from Plattsburgh - just another local burgess. Her successor Gibson was a soldier-academic who had made his career in the Army. The chaps representing the district next door to hers were a (1) a civil engineer and (2) the guy who founded the band Orleans.

    She grew up in greater Albany, and attended the Emma Willard School in Troy, NY.

    The city that gave us both Uncle Sam and Santa Claus!

    https://www.brownstoner.com/history/walkabout-a-visit-from-st-nichols-a-troy-story/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Wilson

    Two characters whom Democrats have traditionally confused.

    When the city’s last major league ballclub went bankrupt, its franchise in the National League was awarded to the future Giants. That’s the club that recently built a new stadium almost entirely with private capital… and apologized for it!

  33. Gillibrand is typical of most upper class White Women.

    Reflexively allies with non Whites particularly Blacks against Whites particularly White boys.

    The reaction to Nick Sandmann tells us something.

    White males in this society are viewed as evil and expendable.

    • Replies: @Maciano
    Fuck off Whiskey.

    Stop mixing up your dating experiences with politics.
  34. Are many white women in the US as crazy as this senator?

    • Replies: @Excal
    Yes.
    , @Jim Don Bob
    White women in the USA are the richest, freest, most pampered women to ever walk this planet. But they have been told for the last 40 years that all their problems are someone else's fault, which relieves them of the need for self examination and behavior change.
  35. Anyone notice how Obama-led America was very much like Yeltsin-led Russia? Declining lifespan, collapsing infrastructure, huge rise in addiction and related deaths.

  36. @countenance
    Don't slam another guy's head to the sidewalk, and you probably won't get shot.

    The M&Ms saved him – it’s Skittles that is killer bait.

  37. @Wilkey
    Everytime Democrats start complaining about the number of black children getting shot the number of black children getting shot just goes up. It's almost like they're trying to kill off black children or something. If they talk a little more we may soon not have any blacks left in this country at all.

    OMG NO!!!!! Please .. no..that would be horrible….

  38. It is always rather sad to see someone spout self-hating nonsense just to achieve some crass political opportunistic objective. Personal abasement is never a winning strategy. Unless the Red Guards are threatening to otherwise bury you alive.

    Poor Kristen. So white, so blonde, so awful. I hope the mirrors in her bathroom are perpetually covered with dark drapes.

    I can’t recall any non white politicians engaging in similar self loathing. Taking responsibility for the “collective sins” of whatever race they are. It must be a whitey thing.

  39. What the conversation is about is when a community has been left behind for generations because of the color of their skin. When you’ve been denied job, after job, after job because you’re black or because you’re brown. Or when you go to the emergency room to have your baby. The fact that we have the highest maternal mortality rate and if you are a black woman you are four times more likely to die in childbirth because that healthcare provider doesn’t believe you when you say I don’t feel right. Because he doesn’t value you. Or because she doesn’t value you.

    Good grief, people of color are treated horribly. I never realized it was this bad.

  40. Gillibrand’s real name is Rutnik. she changed her name, something almost only democrats do. de Blasio is another.

    looking up their history and seeing if somebody completely changed their name is usually a sign they’re not a person you want to listen to or have anything to do with.

    people who deliberately change their legal names, and not thru marriage, are generally working some angle.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite

    de Blasio is another.
     
    And Barry Soetero. And Bill Clinton.
    , @gabriel alberton
    Gillibrand is her husband's surname. It was a change through marriage. She did not completely change her name like Bill De Blasio did. And I dunno about how completely changing one's name is a democrat thing. Bill Clinton wasn't born a Clinton, but Gerald Ford wasn't born a Ford nor a Gerald. As it happens, Beto O'Rourke, a democrat, just uses a hispanicized version of his English first name and did not completely, legally change his name, yet I'd argue he's precisely the kind of person that is not at all forthcoming. Needless to say, he's not alone.
    , @Art Deco
    Gillibrand got married, which is perfectly normal. diBlabbio elected to rebrand himself, which is understandable when writers and performers do it but creepy when just about anyone else does it. His excuse has been that his father was a bum. Geraldine Ferraro claimed she'd retained her maiden name (in 1960) to honor her mother. Gary Hart claimed he'd acceded to his father's wish to re-acquire the original family name. Ferraro and Hart were lying and it's a reasonable wager diBlabbio is too.
  41. @Art Deco
    The employment-to-population ratio for men-in-general between the ages of 25 and 55 is 0.865. The remainder are divided between those who are temporarily unemployed, those who are ill or disabled, and those not working for some other reason. Reported illness and disability account for not quite half of this, interstitial unemployment for about 30%. The main reason fewer adult men are working is that they have the option to retire in old age. Secondary reasons would be the availability of disability benefits. The third would be the increased number of years people stay in school.

    Good breakdown data Art.

    I’m sure i could get off–actually spend more time on–my lazy ass and hunt some of this down. Would you mind sharing the various links you used to rough out this picture?

  42. @Art Deco
    She grew up in greater Albany, and attended the Emma Willard School in Troy, NY. Her family was and is very well connected politically. The district she represented had swatches of Rensselaer county, but was overwhelmingly exurban, small town and rural and consisted of places to which she was a stranger. She only ran in the district twice and she had optimal conditions for a Democrat, conditions which had dissipated by 2010 and allowed a temporizing Republican to take the district. (The district's been broken up since). It's a reasonable wager that she and her husband were seldom there except when she was making the rounds. (Her successor Chris Gibson grew up in Columbia County and returned to the Hudson Valley after he got out of the Army; Gillibrand made her career in New York City, bouncing between political staff jobs and positions in politically-connected law firms).

    What's interesting about Gillibrand is that she is privileged in the strict sense, in as much as I don't think you could find anyone who has represented Upstate in the last 20 years whose life has been so permeated by the benefits of who-you-know. The guy who represented the Adirondack region when I was in that district was a small-practice lawyer from Plattsburgh - just another local burgess. Her successor Gibson was a soldier-academic who had made his career in the Army. The chaps representing the district next door to hers were a (1) a civil engineer and (2) the guy who founded the band Orleans.

    I don’t think you could find anyone who has represented Upstate in the last 20 years whose life has been so permeated by the benefits of who-you-know

    .

    I’ll say. Knowing Chuck Schumer helped, since it got her a Senate seat.

    When she was running for Congress she was what people used to call a moderate, opposed licenses for illegals, decent for a Dem on guns. She now portrays herself as hopelessly naive at the time and blames her backward district for it, instead of admitting she was hopelessly cynical and lying to the rubes to get elected.

  43. @Steve Richter
    She has a very nice looking family.

    She has a very nice looking family.

    Agree. She’s a reasonably attractive woman, nice looking boys. She should have kept trying until she had at least a couple girls as well … and spared us from all this tedious crap.

    The world would be better off if most college educated white women used their wombs more and their mouths less. They–and their children’s future–would be happier as well.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    The world would be better off if most college educated white women used their wombs more and their mouths less.
     
    Creating new human beings with your own body is a pretty powerful thing that only a woman can do. But somehow the angry lesbians and wannabe men who defined feminist values managed to convince women that creating and raising human beings is a menial task. Instead, true "power" and self-fulfillment is to be found in running your mouth and being a sleazy politician, just like men have been doing forever. Kinda sad really.
    , @MBlanc46
    “Use their wombs more and their mouths less”. Nicely put.
    , @Duke84
    If her sons were ever accused of rape I wonder if she would believe in their innocence or the woman making the accustaion? I'm guessing the latter.
  44. @Art Deco
    She grew up in greater Albany, and attended the Emma Willard School in Troy, NY. Her family was and is very well connected politically. The district she represented had swatches of Rensselaer county, but was overwhelmingly exurban, small town and rural and consisted of places to which she was a stranger. She only ran in the district twice and she had optimal conditions for a Democrat, conditions which had dissipated by 2010 and allowed a temporizing Republican to take the district. (The district's been broken up since). It's a reasonable wager that she and her husband were seldom there except when she was making the rounds. (Her successor Chris Gibson grew up in Columbia County and returned to the Hudson Valley after he got out of the Army; Gillibrand made her career in New York City, bouncing between political staff jobs and positions in politically-connected law firms).

    What's interesting about Gillibrand is that she is privileged in the strict sense, in as much as I don't think you could find anyone who has represented Upstate in the last 20 years whose life has been so permeated by the benefits of who-you-know. The guy who represented the Adirondack region when I was in that district was a small-practice lawyer from Plattsburgh - just another local burgess. Her successor Gibson was a soldier-academic who had made his career in the Army. The chaps representing the district next door to hers were a (1) a civil engineer and (2) the guy who founded the band Orleans.

    What’s interesting about Gillibrand is that she is privileged in the strict sense, in as much as I don’t think you could find anyone who has represented Upstate in the last 20 years whose life has been so permeated by the benefits of who-you-know.

    She really is the worst kind of shamelessly ambitious phony.

  45. What I’ve gathered from this vomit inducing blather is that she hates Whites. Does she have kids? Most White parents give their kids Triple A cards and instruct them to carry them when they drive. And who smokes pot anymore?

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    She doesn't hate 'Whites'. She despises you. Gillibrand is the issue of the provincial patriciate who went from a private academy to Dartmouth to the UCLA Law school, to a career bouncing between political staff jobs and law firms with incestuous connections to politicians. Her husband is British, attended Columbia University, and works in the financial sector (which is not, ahem, based in Rensselaer County, NY). Some people transcend their background, but she doesn't. She's a bubble-dweller for whom ordinary people are pairs of hands.
  46. @Altai
    Why the hell has nobody gone rogue yet in the Democratic primaries and just set up a YouTube channel and Twitter and just unloaded on all this nonsense. Bernie Sanders but much younger and fearless? Trump demonstrated that Howard Dean was just too soon and insufficiently radical to make such a model work. But the biggest single media vectors in the world right now are free to use with no initial gatekeepers.

    Have the incentives in society become so intense that anyone with anything to lose won't do it. It's incredible. As others noted, this is how autocratic and totalitarian regimes fall, cowing the public into a seething display of false preferences until they believe the public thinks like they do that society exists to enrich it's elite. The establishment being shocked when one day something happens to trigger it's downfall. They don't see the magma chamber growing under the volcano.

    It's been several years now and nobody in the respective press is consistently going on about how the political elites have allowed so much of public policy to be taken out of democratic debate that only those with little concern of how others perceive them are able to address these topics that have been sorely neglected for decades.

    How is Boris Johnson the only senior political figure in Britain capable of even pivoting a tiny bit to deal with new political realities? The establishment has learned nothing and forgotten nothing.

    This should be the response on Twitter all day for the DNC. You want Donald Trump gone? You can get that any time. Any time you like to promote a candidate that wants to talk sanely about immigration. Any time you like you can promote a candidate that wants to end wars for Israel or regulate investment banks. If you fail to do these things I can only conclude that the inverse of those policies are much more important to you than removing Trump and I can only wonder what your real problem with Trump is.

    Still spouting nonsense, just at a higher decibel level.
    Howard Dean makes as much sense as Trump.
    Wait, Dean doesn’t have a super bitch daughter married to a Jew, does he?
    Maybe I would vote for Dean.
    Biden has his son Hunter, who is far up Ukraine’s Nazi ass.

    The problem with the D’s is they are D’s.
    The problem with the R’s is they are R’s.

    Manufactured reality with pre-fab binary choices that seem to be the same dish. War, Misery, and Profit.

  47. Is she saying that her white privilege gives her the privilege to talk to whites better than any non-white privileged person could? If so, that seems like the most privileged thing anyone has ever said.

    Actually, I tried reading Gilibrand’s statement about three times but each time it was an unintelligible progressive word salad to me. Maybe my white privilege interferes with my reading comprehension.

  48. @Haole

    Or when you go to the emergency room to have your baby. The fact that we have the highest maternal mortality rate and if you are a black woman you are four times more likely to die in childbirth because that healthcare provider doesn’t believe you when you say I don’t feel right. Because he doesn’t value you. Or because she doesn’t value you.

     

    She assumes there are white people treating minorities in the hospitals. When I go to hospitals there are no or almost no white staff. This is not just Hawaii, there are no whites, well a few, in Atlanta also. Blame the pakistani doctor and the fillipina nurses for bad outcomes for black patients. In fact maybe we should blame minorities and foreigners for our shambles of a medical system. OHHH half the white people working in hospitals are a subset of white people that are sometimes not considered white. The medical system in the USA is the New America, Jewish and foreign doctors and minority and foreign staff, the medicine is terrible. The cash Mexican system is better.

    I agree about minority foreign Drs and staff. But the Jewish Drs seem to have disappeared. The Jewish attorneys who rammed through Griggs vs Duke Power and Kaiser vs Weber didn’t realize that Jews are White too.

    You should see the medical students in California. Half Asian women maybe 1 black 2 dark Hispanics. The men 45 % Asian & Indian, the rest a couple Hispanics and an African black. And the Asians generally aren’t American.

  49. @prime noticer
    Gillibrand's real name is Rutnik. she changed her name, something almost only democrats do. de Blasio is another.

    looking up their history and seeing if somebody completely changed their name is usually a sign they're not a person you want to listen to or have anything to do with.

    people who deliberately change their legal names, and not thru marriage, are generally working some angle.

    de Blasio is another.

    And Barry Soetero. And Bill Clinton.

  50. @Art Deco
    She grew up in greater Albany, and attended the Emma Willard School in Troy, NY. Her family was and is very well connected politically. The district she represented had swatches of Rensselaer county, but was overwhelmingly exurban, small town and rural and consisted of places to which she was a stranger. She only ran in the district twice and she had optimal conditions for a Democrat, conditions which had dissipated by 2010 and allowed a temporizing Republican to take the district. (The district's been broken up since). It's a reasonable wager that she and her husband were seldom there except when she was making the rounds. (Her successor Chris Gibson grew up in Columbia County and returned to the Hudson Valley after he got out of the Army; Gillibrand made her career in New York City, bouncing between political staff jobs and positions in politically-connected law firms).

    What's interesting about Gillibrand is that she is privileged in the strict sense, in as much as I don't think you could find anyone who has represented Upstate in the last 20 years whose life has been so permeated by the benefits of who-you-know. The guy who represented the Adirondack region when I was in that district was a small-practice lawyer from Plattsburgh - just another local burgess. Her successor Gibson was a soldier-academic who had made his career in the Army. The chaps representing the district next door to hers were a (1) a civil engineer and (2) the guy who founded the band Orleans.

    Emma Willard was she a debutante too? Traitor

  51. @JimB
    Was this a debate or a Joe Biden lemon session to reassure POC voters that he will stay Woke in the White House after he defeats Trump?

    Seriously, does anyone think Biden isn’t going to be nominated? And if he strokes out at 80, his VP Elizabeth Warren will take over. And Progressives will get what they wanted all along, an extreme left wing woman president.

    Oh please. Biden can’t even speak English coherently. The Powers That Be want your girl Kamala. Biden’s just there to prove that white people are stupid. It’s not like they’ve ever invented anything or founded the country or anything like that.

    • Replies: @JimB

    The Powers That Be want your girl Kamala.
     
    In my darker moments I would agree with you, but Harris is just so unlikable. I think Tulsi wounded her critically at the last debate, and Kamala’s campaign will bleed out.

    “Look at me, I’m a top-tier candidate who cake walked into the US Senate, so I can spend all my campaign money on limos, fine dining, and five star restaurants. If I get to be president I promise to outspend the Obama’s on travel and vacations.”

  52. @Pericles

    When his – when her – when their child has a car that breaks down, and he knocks on someone’s door for help, and the door opens, and the help is given, it’s his whiteness that protects him from being shot.

     

    And yet:

    British tourists James Kouzaris and James Cooper, who accidentally wandered into a crime-plagued housing project in Florida, were shot dead by a teenager after pleading for their lives, a court heard yesterday.

     

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9161871/Florida-holiday-Britons-who-took-wrong-turn-shot-dead.html

    Are Florida blacks still lying in wait around airports to follow tourists for robbery rape and murder?

    I can tell you what the English newspapers will say about this. They’ll claim the gun opened the drawer, jumped to the floor, opened the door rolled out of the house and shot the tourists all by itself.

  53. @AnotherDad

    She has a very nice looking family.
     
    Agree. She's a reasonably attractive woman, nice looking boys. She should have kept trying until she had at least a couple girls as well ... and spared us from all this tedious crap.

    The world would be better off if most college educated white women used their wombs more and their mouths less. They--and their children's future--would be happier as well.

    The world would be better off if most college educated white women used their wombs more and their mouths less.

    Creating new human beings with your own body is a pretty powerful thing that only a woman can do. But somehow the angry lesbians and wannabe men who defined feminist values managed to convince women that creating and raising human beings is a menial task. Instead, true “power” and self-fulfillment is to be found in running your mouth and being a sleazy politician, just like men have been doing forever. Kinda sad really.

    • Agree: OEMIKITLOB
  54. @Altai
    Why the hell has nobody gone rogue yet in the Democratic primaries and just set up a YouTube channel and Twitter and just unloaded on all this nonsense. Bernie Sanders but much younger and fearless? Trump demonstrated that Howard Dean was just too soon and insufficiently radical to make such a model work. But the biggest single media vectors in the world right now are free to use with no initial gatekeepers.

    Have the incentives in society become so intense that anyone with anything to lose won't do it. It's incredible. As others noted, this is how autocratic and totalitarian regimes fall, cowing the public into a seething display of false preferences until they believe the public thinks like they do that society exists to enrich it's elite. The establishment being shocked when one day something happens to trigger it's downfall. They don't see the magma chamber growing under the volcano.

    It's been several years now and nobody in the respective press is consistently going on about how the political elites have allowed so much of public policy to be taken out of democratic debate that only those with little concern of how others perceive them are able to address these topics that have been sorely neglected for decades.

    How is Boris Johnson the only senior political figure in Britain capable of even pivoting a tiny bit to deal with new political realities? The establishment has learned nothing and forgotten nothing.

    This should be the response on Twitter all day for the DNC. You want Donald Trump gone? You can get that any time. Any time you like to promote a candidate that wants to talk sanely about immigration. Any time you like you can promote a candidate that wants to end wars for Israel or regulate investment banks. If you fail to do these things I can only conclude that the inverse of those policies are much more important to you than removing Trump and I can only wonder what your real problem with Trump is.

    You want Donald Trump gone? You can get that any time. Any time you like to promote a candidate that wants to talk sanely about immigration. Any time you like you can promote a candidate that wants to end wars for Israel or regulate investment banks.

    You make a good, practical political point. In a crowded field like this, the most important thing is to stand out from the crowd in some way.

    Yet all 20 Democrat candidates seem to believe that they also need to be uniformly party-line on all 20 issues as well. Why doesn’t someone stand out by bucking the progressive orthodoxy on just one issue? And immigration would be perfect.

    Imagine if just one candidate had said “I’m all for Socialism, just like you guys, but because I want to keep the taxpayer-funded benefits of socialism for Americans only, I’d seal up the border.” A ton of Democrats believe this (or did, as of two years ago), and they’d all flock to that candidate.

    Someone is leaving a lot of votes on the table.

    • Replies: @Altai
    Tulsi is very anti-neocon as is Sanders and he is also very much for legal immigration restriction to protect labour markets but he is quieter about this in current year times. Both she and Sanders would be wildly more popular candidates in a general election (Including among Democrats) but will not be allowed proceed. It will be O'Rourke, Harris or, god-forbid, Biden. All three of those will lose to Trump, particularly if the leadership of the Democrats keeps up it's nervous breakdown advocating open borders.

    Like I said Tulsi is good on wars for Israel and financial regulation and would beat Trump (Good chance she'd make a go at financial regulation unlike Trump) but the whole point of removing Trump is to suppress populism not embrace more of it vis-a-vis financial regulation and Israel and potential infect the Democrats with it too.
    , @Jack D

    Someone is leaving a lot of votes on the table.
     
    You're sure about that now? All 20 of them? All they need to do is change their position on this one issue and they would rocket to the top of the polls but for some reason they won't do it and prefer to lose?
    , @Whiskey
    Not really. De m are the coalition of the ascendant. Non Whit seeking to drown Whitey in mass third world migration

    White women are for now honorary non Whites.
  55. @Reg Cæsar

    Gillibrand: I’m going to explain.
     
    Right there is the problem.

    ...it’s his whiteness that protects him from being shot.
     
    I bet she didn't use that line running in her upstate district years ago.

    …it’s his whiteness that protects him from being shot.

    So is Gillibrand saying that blacks need more whiteness? That would actually sort of make sense, so it’s probably not what she meant.

    Do you think the cops would shoot this guy?

  56. @prime noticer
    Gillibrand's real name is Rutnik. she changed her name, something almost only democrats do. de Blasio is another.

    looking up their history and seeing if somebody completely changed their name is usually a sign they're not a person you want to listen to or have anything to do with.

    people who deliberately change their legal names, and not thru marriage, are generally working some angle.

    Gillibrand is her husband’s surname. It was a change through marriage. She did not completely change her name like Bill De Blasio did. And I dunno about how completely changing one’s name is a democrat thing. Bill Clinton wasn’t born a Clinton, but Gerald Ford wasn’t born a Ford nor a Gerald. As it happens, Beto O’Rourke, a democrat, just uses a hispanicized version of his English first name and did not completely, legally change his name, yet I’d argue he’s precisely the kind of person that is not at all forthcoming. Needless to say, he’s not alone.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Gerald Ford's mother and (adoptive) father rechristened just after they married (when GF was about two). He'd never in his life used any name other than 'Gerald Ford' and did not until he was 17 know he'd ever had any other name. (His birth-father remarried and had three more children, one of whom was given a variant of the name GF had been given at birth).

    Bill Clinton adopted his step-father's name at 16. It's a reasonable guess he did this for some skeevy manipulative reason, but everyone else in his family was using the name Clinton and his birth father had died before he was born. NB, Wm. Blythe sired three children between 1937 and 1946, none of whom used the name Blythe.

  57. @JimB
    Was this a debate or a Joe Biden lemon session to reassure POC voters that he will stay Woke in the White House after he defeats Trump?

    Seriously, does anyone think Biden isn’t going to be nominated? And if he strokes out at 80, his VP Elizabeth Warren will take over. And Progressives will get what they wanted all along, an extreme left wing woman president.

    Warren is 70. Were she elected president in 2020, she’d be the oldest person ever to become president of the United States, at 71, one year older than Trump. I believe that she’d also be the oldest vice president ever, but I’m not sure.

    • Replies: @JimB

    Warren is 70. Were she elected president in 2020, she’d be the oldest person ever to become president of the United States, at 71, one year older than Trump
     
    Hey, 71 is the new 65.
  58. @Bragadocious

    When his – when her – when their child has a car that breaks down, and he knocks on someone’s door for help, and the door opens, and the help is given, it’s his whiteness that protects him from being shot.

     

    That's her example of white privilege? This woman's a maniac. I can only assume she was referring to the incident in Detroit where Renisha crashed her car and then banged on a random man's front door like Chip Douglas in "Cable Guy." The homeowner perceived a threat and unloaded on her. Probably unwise since he's now in prison, but would he have reacted differently if it was a white meth tweaker bashing his door? Highly doubtful.

    It is interesting how the narrative was cleaned up for the woke patrol. Her car didn't "break down" -- she was drunk and crashed it. She didn't knock on the door, she tried to bust it down. This is just one lie piled on top of another. Trump looks like George Washington compared to these people.

    Renisha was at .218% at the time of her death, which was two hours after the crash. Either she drank even more after the crash (the 2 hours are unaccounted for) or her BAC was even higher at the time of the crash. The legal limit is .08%.

    After the crash the owner of the vehicle that Renisha sideswiped called 911 but Detroit being Detroit the cops did not come. It was only a car crash, no one was dead yet.

    Renisha pounded on the door at around 3:30 AM, in a white neighborhood 3 miles from the scene of the crash, awakening the homeowner from a sound sleep, so he was not necessarily thinking clearly. I’m not sure what I would do if a drunken Negro started pounding on my door in the middle of the night either.

  59. @Hypnotoad666

    You want Donald Trump gone? You can get that any time. Any time you like to promote a candidate that wants to talk sanely about immigration. Any time you like you can promote a candidate that wants to end wars for Israel or regulate investment banks.
     
    You make a good, practical political point. In a crowded field like this, the most important thing is to stand out from the crowd in some way.

    Yet all 20 Democrat candidates seem to believe that they also need to be uniformly party-line on all 20 issues as well. Why doesn't someone stand out by bucking the progressive orthodoxy on just one issue? And immigration would be perfect.

    Imagine if just one candidate had said "I'm all for Socialism, just like you guys, but because I want to keep the taxpayer-funded benefits of socialism for Americans only, I'd seal up the border." A ton of Democrats believe this (or did, as of two years ago), and they'd all flock to that candidate.

    Someone is leaving a lot of votes on the table.

    Tulsi is very anti-neocon as is Sanders and he is also very much for legal immigration restriction to protect labour markets but he is quieter about this in current year times. Both she and Sanders would be wildly more popular candidates in a general election (Including among Democrats) but will not be allowed proceed. It will be O’Rourke, Harris or, god-forbid, Biden. All three of those will lose to Trump, particularly if the leadership of the Democrats keeps up it’s nervous breakdown advocating open borders.

    Like I said Tulsi is good on wars for Israel and financial regulation and would beat Trump (Good chance she’d make a go at financial regulation unlike Trump) but the whole point of removing Trump is to suppress populism not embrace more of it vis-a-vis financial regulation and Israel and potential infect the Democrats with it too.

  60. @Altai
    Why the hell has nobody gone rogue yet in the Democratic primaries and just set up a YouTube channel and Twitter and just unloaded on all this nonsense. Bernie Sanders but much younger and fearless? Trump demonstrated that Howard Dean was just too soon and insufficiently radical to make such a model work. But the biggest single media vectors in the world right now are free to use with no initial gatekeepers.

    Have the incentives in society become so intense that anyone with anything to lose won't do it. It's incredible. As others noted, this is how autocratic and totalitarian regimes fall, cowing the public into a seething display of false preferences until they believe the public thinks like they do that society exists to enrich it's elite. The establishment being shocked when one day something happens to trigger it's downfall. They don't see the magma chamber growing under the volcano.

    It's been several years now and nobody in the respective press is consistently going on about how the political elites have allowed so much of public policy to be taken out of democratic debate that only those with little concern of how others perceive them are able to address these topics that have been sorely neglected for decades.

    How is Boris Johnson the only senior political figure in Britain capable of even pivoting a tiny bit to deal with new political realities? The establishment has learned nothing and forgotten nothing.

    This should be the response on Twitter all day for the DNC. You want Donald Trump gone? You can get that any time. Any time you like to promote a candidate that wants to talk sanely about immigration. Any time you like you can promote a candidate that wants to end wars for Israel or regulate investment banks. If you fail to do these things I can only conclude that the inverse of those policies are much more important to you than removing Trump and I can only wonder what your real problem with Trump is.

    Are you SURE these are winning positions? They are winning positions with YOU and another 5 or 10 WNs, but are they really winning positions with Dem. primary voters? Don’t mistake your preferences for those of the electorate, esp. the Dem. base. If they are, why are all these candidates leaving these votes on the table? Not a one of them, even the guys polling at 1% are willing to pick all this low hanging fruit? Are all 20 or 30 of them bought off by the Joos? Where is Trump’s challenger from the right?

  61. @Icy Blast
    Oh please. Biden can't even speak English coherently. The Powers That Be want your girl Kamala. Biden's just there to prove that white people are stupid. It's not like they've ever invented anything or founded the country or anything like that.

    The Powers That Be want your girl Kamala.

    In my darker moments I would agree with you, but Harris is just so unlikable. I think Tulsi wounded her critically at the last debate, and Kamala’s campaign will bleed out.

    “Look at me, I’m a top-tier candidate who cake walked into the US Senate, so I can spend all my campaign money on limos, fine dining, and five star restaurants. If I get to be president I promise to outspend the Obama’s on travel and vacations.”

  62. @gabriel alberton
    Warren is 70. Were she elected president in 2020, she'd be the oldest person ever to become president of the United States, at 71, one year older than Trump. I believe that she'd also be the oldest vice president ever, but I'm not sure.

    Warren is 70. Were she elected president in 2020, she’d be the oldest person ever to become president of the United States, at 71, one year older than Trump

    Hey, 71 is the new 65.

  63. @Hypnotoad666

    You want Donald Trump gone? You can get that any time. Any time you like to promote a candidate that wants to talk sanely about immigration. Any time you like you can promote a candidate that wants to end wars for Israel or regulate investment banks.
     
    You make a good, practical political point. In a crowded field like this, the most important thing is to stand out from the crowd in some way.

    Yet all 20 Democrat candidates seem to believe that they also need to be uniformly party-line on all 20 issues as well. Why doesn't someone stand out by bucking the progressive orthodoxy on just one issue? And immigration would be perfect.

    Imagine if just one candidate had said "I'm all for Socialism, just like you guys, but because I want to keep the taxpayer-funded benefits of socialism for Americans only, I'd seal up the border." A ton of Democrats believe this (or did, as of two years ago), and they'd all flock to that candidate.

    Someone is leaving a lot of votes on the table.

    Someone is leaving a lot of votes on the table.

    You’re sure about that now? All 20 of them? All they need to do is change their position on this one issue and they would rocket to the top of the polls but for some reason they won’t do it and prefer to lose?

  64. @Art Deco
    What gets you is that she's either completely innumerate or she's a malicious liar. The number of blacks killed by non-blacks in this country averages about 600 people a year, and, of course the circumstances vary from one such encounter to another. A great many of these are indubitably domestic disputes between inter-racial couples and others are bar fights. A metropolitan commuter belt has 60 homicides a year and you're making hay about two of them (of which one or both are likely sadly unremarkable as to their causes).

    What gets you is that she’s either completely innumerate or she’s a malicious liar.

    I suspect she’s both.

    Isn’t this a prerequisite to be a “legitimate” Democratic Presidential candidate?

  65. @Art Deco
    What gets you is that she's either completely innumerate or she's a malicious liar. The number of blacks killed by non-blacks in this country averages about 600 people a year, and, of course the circumstances vary from one such encounter to another. A great many of these are indubitably domestic disputes between inter-racial couples and others are bar fights. A metropolitan commuter belt has 60 homicides a year and you're making hay about two of them (of which one or both are likely sadly unremarkable as to their causes).

    A metropolitan commuter belt has 60 homicides a year and you’re making hay about two of them (of which one or both are likely sadly unremarkable as to their causes).

    Detroit itself has around 250 or 300 homicides per year – a little less than 1 per day, most of which involve blacks shooting other blacks. Over a decade this adds up to thousands of homicides and across the country adds up to tens of thousands.

    And yet the only homicides that “matter” are the rare occasions when a white person shoots a black. Why is that?

  66. @Reg Cæsar

    Gillibrand: I’m going to explain.
     
    Right there is the problem.

    ...it’s his whiteness that protects him from being shot.
     
    I bet she didn't use that line running in her upstate district years ago.

    Lol button used and I agree.

    H.L. Mencken’s prescience of the political state of affairs in the U.S. is going to be proven correct soon enough:

    “As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

    I believed “W” was the one, but, then came Barry and now The Donald. It’s all downhill from here.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Where is the evidence H.L. Mencken as well versed in any subject but publishing magazines and newspapers and playing around with language? And if W, Obama, and Trump are 'moron's, who is the non-moron and how do we recognize him?
  67. @prime noticer
    Gillibrand's real name is Rutnik. she changed her name, something almost only democrats do. de Blasio is another.

    looking up their history and seeing if somebody completely changed their name is usually a sign they're not a person you want to listen to or have anything to do with.

    people who deliberately change their legal names, and not thru marriage, are generally working some angle.

    Gillibrand got married, which is perfectly normal. diBlabbio elected to rebrand himself, which is understandable when writers and performers do it but creepy when just about anyone else does it. His excuse has been that his father was a bum. Geraldine Ferraro claimed she’d retained her maiden name (in 1960) to honor her mother. Gary Hart claimed he’d acceded to his father’s wish to re-acquire the original family name. Ferraro and Hart were lying and it’s a reasonable wager diBlabbio is too.

  68. @gabriel alberton
    Gillibrand is her husband's surname. It was a change through marriage. She did not completely change her name like Bill De Blasio did. And I dunno about how completely changing one's name is a democrat thing. Bill Clinton wasn't born a Clinton, but Gerald Ford wasn't born a Ford nor a Gerald. As it happens, Beto O'Rourke, a democrat, just uses a hispanicized version of his English first name and did not completely, legally change his name, yet I'd argue he's precisely the kind of person that is not at all forthcoming. Needless to say, he's not alone.

    Gerald Ford’s mother and (adoptive) father rechristened just after they married (when GF was about two). He’d never in his life used any name other than ‘Gerald Ford’ and did not until he was 17 know he’d ever had any other name. (His birth-father remarried and had three more children, one of whom was given a variant of the name GF had been given at birth).

    Bill Clinton adopted his step-father’s name at 16. It’s a reasonable guess he did this for some skeevy manipulative reason, but everyone else in his family was using the name Clinton and his birth father had died before he was born. NB, Wm. Blythe sired three children between 1937 and 1946, none of whom used the name Blythe.

  69. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    "When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

    it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another

    Hold it right there —

    We’ll have to clear this with a federal judge first. He/she might issue an injunction. If so, we’ll have no choice but to respect it, and go back to Monitoring the Situation.

  70. @OEMIKITLOB
    Lol button used and I agree.

    H.L. Mencken's prescience of the political state of affairs in the U.S. is going to be proven correct soon enough:

    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

    I believed "W" was the one, but, then came Barry and now The Donald. It's all downhill from here.

    Where is the evidence H.L. Mencken as well versed in any subject but publishing magazines and newspapers and playing around with language? And if W, Obama, and Trump are ‘moron’s, who is the non-moron and how do we recognize him?

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
    "Where is the evidence H.L. Mencken as well versed in any subject but publishing magazines and newspapers and playing around with language?"

    I believe the truth of the particular quote is self-evident to an observant person and needs no corroboration.

    "And if W, Obama, and Trump are ‘moron’s, who is the non-moron and how do we recognize him?"

    He, or she (God forbid), will act like, and be, a mature adult, say, like Dr. Ron Paul.
  71. @Hypnotoad666

    You want Donald Trump gone? You can get that any time. Any time you like to promote a candidate that wants to talk sanely about immigration. Any time you like you can promote a candidate that wants to end wars for Israel or regulate investment banks.
     
    You make a good, practical political point. In a crowded field like this, the most important thing is to stand out from the crowd in some way.

    Yet all 20 Democrat candidates seem to believe that they also need to be uniformly party-line on all 20 issues as well. Why doesn't someone stand out by bucking the progressive orthodoxy on just one issue? And immigration would be perfect.

    Imagine if just one candidate had said "I'm all for Socialism, just like you guys, but because I want to keep the taxpayer-funded benefits of socialism for Americans only, I'd seal up the border." A ton of Democrats believe this (or did, as of two years ago), and they'd all flock to that candidate.

    Someone is leaving a lot of votes on the table.

    Not really. De m are the coalition of the ascendant. Non Whit seeking to drown Whitey in mass third world migration

    White women are for now honorary non Whites.

  72. @AnotherDad

    She has a very nice looking family.
     
    Agree. She's a reasonably attractive woman, nice looking boys. She should have kept trying until she had at least a couple girls as well ... and spared us from all this tedious crap.

    The world would be better off if most college educated white women used their wombs more and their mouths less. They--and their children's future--would be happier as well.

    “Use their wombs more and their mouths less”. Nicely put.

  73. @Art Deco
    Where is the evidence H.L. Mencken as well versed in any subject but publishing magazines and newspapers and playing around with language? And if W, Obama, and Trump are 'moron's, who is the non-moron and how do we recognize him?

    “Where is the evidence H.L. Mencken as well versed in any subject but publishing magazines and newspapers and playing around with language?”

    I believe the truth of the particular quote is self-evident to an observant person and needs no corroboration.

    “And if W, Obama, and Trump are ‘moron’s, who is the non-moron and how do we recognize him?”

    He, or she (God forbid), will act like, and be, a mature adult, say, like Dr. Ron Paul.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    I believe the truth of the particular quote is self-evident to an observant person and needs no corroboration.

    Your problem is excess self-confidence. And no one can help you with that.
  74. Gillibrand has trouble reasoning because she’s a chip of the old block. Her dad was a member of a cult, and cult followers have trouble with real-world thinking.

  75. @JimB
    Was this a debate or a Joe Biden lemon session to reassure POC voters that he will stay Woke in the White House after he defeats Trump?

    Seriously, does anyone think Biden isn’t going to be nominated? And if he strokes out at 80, his VP Elizabeth Warren will take over. And Progressives will get what they wanted all along, an extreme left wing woman president.

    There’s no way they would have two whites on the same ticket even if Warren claims to be an Indian.

  76. @AnotherDad

    She has a very nice looking family.
     
    Agree. She's a reasonably attractive woman, nice looking boys. She should have kept trying until she had at least a couple girls as well ... and spared us from all this tedious crap.

    The world would be better off if most college educated white women used their wombs more and their mouths less. They--and their children's future--would be happier as well.

    If her sons were ever accused of rape I wonder if she would believe in their innocence or the woman making the accustaion? I’m guessing the latter.

  77. @Whiskey
    Gillibrand is typical of most upper class White Women.

    Reflexively allies with non Whites particularly Blacks against Whites particularly White boys.

    The reaction to Nick Sandmann tells us something.

    White males in this society are viewed as evil and expendable.

    Fuck off Whiskey.

    Stop mixing up your dating experiences with politics.

  78. @Alden
    What I’ve gathered from this vomit inducing blather is that she hates Whites. Does she have kids? Most White parents give their kids Triple A cards and instruct them to carry them when they drive. And who smokes pot anymore?

    She doesn’t hate ‘Whites’. She despises you. Gillibrand is the issue of the provincial patriciate who went from a private academy to Dartmouth to the UCLA Law school, to a career bouncing between political staff jobs and law firms with incestuous connections to politicians. Her husband is British, attended Columbia University, and works in the financial sector (which is not, ahem, based in Rensselaer County, NY). Some people transcend their background, but she doesn’t. She’s a bubble-dweller for whom ordinary people are pairs of hands.

  79. @OEMIKITLOB
    "Where is the evidence H.L. Mencken as well versed in any subject but publishing magazines and newspapers and playing around with language?"

    I believe the truth of the particular quote is self-evident to an observant person and needs no corroboration.

    "And if W, Obama, and Trump are ‘moron’s, who is the non-moron and how do we recognize him?"

    He, or she (God forbid), will act like, and be, a mature adult, say, like Dr. Ron Paul.

    I believe the truth of the particular quote is self-evident to an observant person and needs no corroboration.

    Your problem is excess self-confidence. And no one can help you with that.

    • Replies: @OEMIKITLOB
    You mean you haven't noticed the caliber of potential candidates voters are willing to vote for, and do, is declining? It raises the question of the caliber of the voters who knowingly and willingly put them there.

    Appears pretty obvious from where I'm standing that morons will accept morons to rule them. I believe the scenario qualifies as empirical evidence.

    Is it possible that you just don't like the implications?
  80. Amy Harmon Retweeted:

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1157047105501978625
    , @ben tillman

    Amy Harmon Retweeted:
     
    Correction: Horny Mama retweeted.
  81. @MEH 0910
    Amy Harmon Retweeted:
    https://twitter.com/ProfMTP/status/1157041118359576579

  82. HA says:

    So if your son, is 15 years old and smokes pot. He smokes pot just as much as black boy in his neighborhood and the Latino boy in his neighborhood. But that black and brown boy is four times more likely to get arrested.

    This whole “black kids are more likely to wind up in jail just for smoking pot” claim that is the cornerstone of her speech — is that just a rehash of the old pot-head canard about how bazillions of people are in prison for no other reason pot-smoking? The one that falls apart when one takes into account plea bargaining, and realizes that the just-for-pot sentence is only what the DA eventually bargained down to so as to save himself the cost of a trial, and it thereby disregards the gun possession, distribution and other offenses that are the real reason this upstanding citizen somehow wound up behind bars?

    In other words, are black teens genuinely more likely to be imprisoned for pot, or are they simply more likely to be involved in the kinds of things that are almost certain to result in anyone going to prison, but are later plea-bargained down to make it appear as if smoking pot is the only reason?

    Based on the analysis that was done on stop-and-frisk, which made it clear that that, too, is not the racist effort to keep the black people down that it was so often made out to be, I lean towards the plea-bargaining-hypothesis, but I genuinely don’t know.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    rehash of the old pot-head canard about how bazillions of people are in prison for no other reason pot-smoking
     
    Just as big a lie as the "gun show loophole" or characterizing AR-15s as "assault rifles".
  83. Yep, cops just cruise down the street and when they see a black or brown teen in a hoodie they draw their side arms. Anything bulging his pockets confirms the racist cop’s suspicions and both cops in the cruiser open fire. Happens all the time.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    I saw a white DPD officer being polite to a scary black streetwalker this morning at the coffee area of the QT. But I guess that's just Dallas for you.
  84. @Art Deco
    I believe the truth of the particular quote is self-evident to an observant person and needs no corroboration.

    Your problem is excess self-confidence. And no one can help you with that.

    You mean you haven’t noticed the caliber of potential candidates voters are willing to vote for, and do, is declining? It raises the question of the caliber of the voters who knowingly and willingly put them there.

    Appears pretty obvious from where I’m standing that morons will accept morons to rule them. I believe the scenario qualifies as empirical evidence.

    Is it possible that you just don’t like the implications?

  85. when marijuana is legal almost everywhere, and africans are still in prison at a 3 times higher rate than everybody else, what are they gonna say?

    because of course, they’re gonna say something. it’s just a matter of what the next line of argument is.

  86. If Matt Yglesias thinks you’ve gone a step too far to the left, you are surely an absolute lunatic.

  87. @VivaLaMigra
    Yep, cops just cruise down the street and when they see a black or brown teen in a hoodie they draw their side arms. Anything bulging his pockets confirms the racist cop's suspicions and both cops in the cruiser open fire. Happens all the time.

    I saw a white DPD officer being polite to a scary black streetwalker this morning at the coffee area of the QT. But I guess that’s just Dallas for you.

  88. @MEH 0910
    Amy Harmon Retweeted:
    https://twitter.com/ProfMTP/status/1157041118359576579

    Amy Harmon Retweeted:

    Correction: Horny Mama retweeted.

  89. @Bardon Kaldian
    Are many white women in the US as crazy as this senator?

    Yes.

  90. @HA

    So if your son, is 15 years old and smokes pot. He smokes pot just as much as black boy in his neighborhood and the Latino boy in his neighborhood. But that black and brown boy is four times more likely to get arrested.
     
    This whole "black kids are more likely to wind up in jail just for smoking pot" claim that is the cornerstone of her speech -- is that just a rehash of the old pot-head canard about how bazillions of people are in prison for no other reason pot-smoking? The one that falls apart when one takes into account plea bargaining, and realizes that the just-for-pot sentence is only what the DA eventually bargained down to so as to save himself the cost of a trial, and it thereby disregards the gun possession, distribution and other offenses that are the real reason this upstanding citizen somehow wound up behind bars?

    In other words, are black teens genuinely more likely to be imprisoned for pot, or are they simply more likely to be involved in the kinds of things that are almost certain to result in anyone going to prison, but are later plea-bargained down to make it appear as if smoking pot is the only reason?

    Based on the analysis that was done on stop-and-frisk, which made it clear that that, too, is not the racist effort to keep the black people down that it was so often made out to be, I lean towards the plea-bargaining-hypothesis, but I genuinely don't know.

    rehash of the old pot-head canard about how bazillions of people are in prison for no other reason pot-smoking

    Just as big a lie as the “gun show loophole” or characterizing AR-15s as “assault rifles”.

  91. @Bardon Kaldian
    Are many white women in the US as crazy as this senator?

    White women in the USA are the richest, freest, most pampered women to ever walk this planet. But they have been told for the last 40 years that all their problems are someone else’s fault, which relieves them of the need for self examination and behavior change.

  92. “his whiteness is what protects him from not being shot.”

    Does this woman speak English? How can someone be protected from not being shot?

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