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As John Adams said, America has a government of persons and not of laws!

By the way, here is the Oath of Office Senator Durbin took:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

 
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  1. Barnard says:

    I agree with Durbin, every dreamer should have the certainty of being sent back to his country of origin. It is what they deserve.

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    Durbin is just pandering for the suburban Chicago Latino vote.

    Illinois is weird.....it's the only state that far from the border infested w that many illegal aliens and their kinfolk.....
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  2. J.Ross says: • Website

    Oh, certainty? Certainty? I thought this was about citizenship. Sure they can have the same certainty that I enjoy — a molotov cocktail in a street that used to not have any noticeable crime, gunshots in the night, and frantic unexplained knocking that goes away when you offer to call emergency services. Oh and every now and then a family car goes missing. I would give them certainty until they were worshipping little stone images of Berkeley.

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  3. wren says:

    Slightly OT: My understanding of this whole shitholegate thing is that Dick Durbin said that Trump said it, and that several other people present and Trump himself said that he didn’t say it.

    Is this correct? Is Durbin the only one who heard it?

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    • Replies: @J.Ross
    I have heard this too, and also that Durbin has a habit of revealing confidential gaffes.
    , @Twodees Partain
    To judge by his reaction, apparently Lindsey Graham heard it and just busted out crying.
    , @Prof. Woland
    This reminds me of when the Democrats were trying to pass the ACA and John Lewis claimed that the protesting Tea-Party crowd he walked through to get to the US Capitol spat on him and called him a google. Kind of a one man hate hoax.
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  4. Bubba says:

    Leaky Dick needs to stop leaking & lying about White House meetings. Even Obama said he was a full of crap leaker.

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  5. JohnnyD says:

    Ok, now I’m starting to wonder if the Democrats have something on Durbin.

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    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    When picked to be the new senator after the death of Paaaaauuulllll Simon, he was nothing but a downstate shmuck , an educated Fred Ziffel. Now he's a multimillionaire. And a piece of...
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  6. Ivy says:

    Oaths are viewed as suggestions in Washington, D.C..
    I’ve reminded our senior California senator about the oath she swore, but to no avail. Her replacement may not be much better, although hope springs eternal.

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    • Replies: @Mark F.
    How is Durbin breaking his oath by suggesting that the law should be changed?
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  7. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Somehow we get stuck with these politicians and they can never be dislodged. Durbin has been more worried about illegals than about real citizens for many years now. The only thing that’ll make him go away will be the aging process I guess.

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    • Replies: @bomag
    It should be noted that Durbin wrote a letter to Abbott labs complaining about their rude outsourcing.

    Here's the weasel in action.

    Yet his votes and public advocacy just makes this scheming more acceptable.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Anonymous, unfortunately Senators and Congresspeople don't seem to age out. Sen. Feinstein, now 84, is actively seeking re-election.
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  8. Dreamers are just as American as you and me.

    They’re not more American than me, but I’ll grant that they’re probably more American than Disturbin’ Durbin has become..

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  9. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Dick sure is obsessed with shitholes. Maybe he shares certain proclivities with his fellow Illinoisan former politician Dennis Hastert?

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  10. J.Ross says: • Website
    @wren
    Slightly OT: My understanding of this whole shitholegate thing is that Dick Durbin said that Trump said it, and that several other people present and Trump himself said that he didn't say it.

    Is this correct? Is Durbin the only one who heard it?

    I have heard this too, and also that Durbin has a habit of revealing confidential gaffes.

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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Durbin is supposed to be pretty honest financially for an Illinois Democratic politician, but a bit of a weasel about about his promises in private.
    , @wren
    He has a history of lying about what was said in private meetings.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/25817/dick-durbin-has-history-lying-about-private-white-ryan-saavedra#

    If he is the only one who thought he heard it, and five other people didn't....

    Notes from shithole day 5: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/01/cory-booker-hurts.php

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  11. @JohnnyD
    Ok, now I'm starting to wonder if the Democrats have something on Durbin.

    When picked to be the new senator after the death of Paaaaauuulllll Simon, he was nothing but a downstate shmuck , an educated Fred Ziffel. Now he’s a multimillionaire. And a piece of…

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  12. @J.Ross
    I have heard this too, and also that Durbin has a habit of revealing confidential gaffes.

    Durbin is supposed to be pretty honest financially for an Illinois Democratic politician, but a bit of a weasel about about his promises in private.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    He needs to be primaried out. If all the GOP voters in Illinois registered as Dems and showed up it could be done.
    , @Simply_ted
    His wife is an Illinois lobbyist. I no the Illinois bar is not high, but just because it is out in the open doesn't mean it isn't crooked.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Steve, pretty funny and an oxymoron, an honest politician from Illinois.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Durbin is supposed to be pretty honest financially for an Illinois Democratic politician, but a bit of a weasel about about his promises in private.
     
    What does "honest" mean in that context? That, when he's bought, he stays bought?
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  13. anon • Disclaimer says:

    he was nothing but a downstate shmuck

    He was born and went to school in East St Louis. You’d think that would have knocked some sense into him. But maybe it just taught him to be a weasel.

    I look at his picture and think “I would not buy a used car from that man.”.

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  14. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Durbin is supposed to be pretty honest financially for an Illinois Democratic politician, but a bit of a weasel about about his promises in private.

    He needs to be primaried out. If all the GOP voters in Illinois registered as Dems and showed up it could be done.

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    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Trump "winning" the midterms will not be Republicans retaining or expanding their hold but Dave Brat style insurgency. Hopefully he paid attention to Obama and will become much more aggressive within his own branch, while refusing to give establishmentarian Congresscritters anything.
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  15. Amasius says:

    Has a single person with a platform called out the “dreamer” business for the stupid, grotesque, emotionally manipulative crap it is? Do these ILLEGAL ALIENS dream any more than the average person? Do they dream any more than the average White child in America? They’re ILLEGAL ALIENS and we don’t owe them a damn thing.

    But no, let’s just repeat what the enemy says and call these invaders and lawbreakers by a cloyingly sympathetic term. And if the enemy starts referring to all prospective immigrants in the world as “perfect and holy children of God” we’ll just have to go with that too. Don’t argue, don’t push back, it’s not sporting.

    I’m gonna hurt my neck from all the head shaking at the never-ending stupidity and incompetence and cowardice of the White race.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Language is at least half the battle, but most alt-righters fail to see this. For my part, I'd ask Durbin if there's anyone on earth he doesn't consider to be American. I expect he'd reply "wypipo".
    , @JSM
    How about if, instead of "Dreamers" we Alt-Right call them Nightmares?
    , @Twodees Partain
    It's not a good idea to count on "the never-ending stupidity and incompetence and cowardice of the White race". Once they get going, those people can seriously handle up.
    , @bomag

    never-ending stupidity and incompetence and cowardice
     
    In the main, they are pretty much the opposite: crafty risk takers.

    It's the pathological altruism that has them heading face down into the mud.
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  16. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    He needs to be primaried out. If all the GOP voters in Illinois registered as Dems and showed up it could be done.

    Trump “winning” the midterms will not be Republicans retaining or expanding their hold but Dave Brat style insurgency. Hopefully he paid attention to Obama and will become much more aggressive within his own branch, while refusing to give establishmentarian Congresscritters anything.

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  17. They grew up here, saying the Pledge of Allegiance.

    Of course, if any of them chose to “take a knee” on that, and Durbin suggested it made them any less American, his party would call anathema.

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  18. wren says:
    @J.Ross
    I have heard this too, and also that Durbin has a habit of revealing confidential gaffes.

    He has a history of lying about what was said in private meetings.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/25817/dick-durbin-has-history-lying-about-private-white-ryan-saavedra#

    If he is the only one who thought he heard it, and five other people didn’t….

    Notes from shithole day 5: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/01/cory-booker-hurts.php

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    • Replies: @Anonym
    The thing about shithole-gate is that it's like Churchill's "Rum, sodomy and the lash" - it's too vastly epic and authentic for it not to become historical record. Think about it - a statement both 100% true while so brashly impolite and politically incorrect that it has the ring of Trumpen authenticity. If not in those exact words, Trump thought it and meant it. Both left and right are happy to look the other way and print the legend.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    wren, it no longer matters if Trump said it. The MSM ran with the story and will never retract or apologize, the stain is permanent.
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  19. Neoconned says:
    @Barnard
    I agree with Durbin, every dreamer should have the certainty of being sent back to his country of origin. It is what they deserve.

    Durbin is just pandering for the suburban Chicago Latino vote.

    Illinois is weird…..it’s the only state that far from the border infested w that many illegal aliens and their kinfolk…..

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    Illinois is weird…..it’s the only state that far from the border infested w that many illegal aliens and their kinfolk…..
     
    May I introduce you to the once-great state of New York?
    , @Corn
    We are a weird state. Sans Cook County Illinois is basically Indiana. But thanks to Cook County we’re as reliably blue as the coasts.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Durbin is just pandering for the suburban Chicago Latino vote.
     
    It isn't just a matter of local politics. The Democratic Party as a whole is pandering to Latinos in order to cement the voting habits of all those new Democratic voters they intend to make. They are encouraging latinos to replace white people. They are electing a new people, and they full well know it.
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  20. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Amasius
    Has a single person with a platform called out the "dreamer" business for the stupid, grotesque, emotionally manipulative crap it is? Do these ILLEGAL ALIENS dream any more than the average person? Do they dream any more than the average White child in America? They're ILLEGAL ALIENS and we don't owe them a damn thing.

    But no, let's just repeat what the enemy says and call these invaders and lawbreakers by a cloyingly sympathetic term. And if the enemy starts referring to all prospective immigrants in the world as "perfect and holy children of God" we'll just have to go with that too. Don't argue, don't push back, it's not sporting.

    I'm gonna hurt my neck from all the head shaking at the never-ending stupidity and incompetence and cowardice of the White race.

    Language is at least half the battle, but most alt-righters fail to see this. For my part, I’d ask Durbin if there’s anyone on earth he doesn’t consider to be American. I expect he’d reply “wypipo”.

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  21. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Neoconned
    Durbin is just pandering for the suburban Chicago Latino vote.

    Illinois is weird.....it's the only state that far from the border infested w that many illegal aliens and their kinfolk.....

    Illinois is weird…..it’s the only state that far from the border infested w that many illegal aliens and their kinfolk…..

    May I introduce you to the once-great state of New York?

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  22. Berty says:

    Watching a mild-mannered guy like Durbin trying to be a passionate liberal advocate is painful. I always figured he had more pride than that.

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  23. Remember, families that have been here 4 or more generations, aren’t real Americans.

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  24. @Steve Sailer
    Durbin is supposed to be pretty honest financially for an Illinois Democratic politician, but a bit of a weasel about about his promises in private.

    His wife is an Illinois lobbyist. I no the Illinois bar is not high, but just because it is out in the open doesn’t mean it isn’t crooked.

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  25. Anonym says:
    @wren
    He has a history of lying about what was said in private meetings.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/25817/dick-durbin-has-history-lying-about-private-white-ryan-saavedra#

    If he is the only one who thought he heard it, and five other people didn't....

    Notes from shithole day 5: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/01/cory-booker-hurts.php

    The thing about shithole-gate is that it’s like Churchill’s “Rum, sodomy and the lash” – it’s too vastly epic and authentic for it not to become historical record. Think about it – a statement both 100% true while so brashly impolite and politically incorrect that it has the ring of Trumpen authenticity. If not in those exact words, Trump thought it and meant it. Both left and right are happy to look the other way and print the legend.

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  26. They’re as American as Durbin, anyway.

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  27. Seriously? How many school systems still recite the Pledge of Allegiance anymore? Isn’t that too jingoistic/nationalistic? Plus, it mentions God! How gauche! I call BS on the Senator from Illinois.

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  28. Yak-15 says:

    Yes, they are American – Central American. They are not citizens and their parents are not citizens of the United States. Neither they, nor their ancestors have earned a right to be here. They have little to offer us to remain here besides their scorn and their vote for more of their kind to be here.

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  29. JSM says:
    @Amasius
    Has a single person with a platform called out the "dreamer" business for the stupid, grotesque, emotionally manipulative crap it is? Do these ILLEGAL ALIENS dream any more than the average person? Do they dream any more than the average White child in America? They're ILLEGAL ALIENS and we don't owe them a damn thing.

    But no, let's just repeat what the enemy says and call these invaders and lawbreakers by a cloyingly sympathetic term. And if the enemy starts referring to all prospective immigrants in the world as "perfect and holy children of God" we'll just have to go with that too. Don't argue, don't push back, it's not sporting.

    I'm gonna hurt my neck from all the head shaking at the never-ending stupidity and incompetence and cowardice of the White race.

    How about if, instead of “Dreamers” we Alt-Right call them Nightmares?

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  30. @wren
    Slightly OT: My understanding of this whole shitholegate thing is that Dick Durbin said that Trump said it, and that several other people present and Trump himself said that he didn't say it.

    Is this correct? Is Durbin the only one who heard it?

    To judge by his reaction, apparently Lindsey Graham heard it and just busted out crying.

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  31. @Amasius
    Has a single person with a platform called out the "dreamer" business for the stupid, grotesque, emotionally manipulative crap it is? Do these ILLEGAL ALIENS dream any more than the average person? Do they dream any more than the average White child in America? They're ILLEGAL ALIENS and we don't owe them a damn thing.

    But no, let's just repeat what the enemy says and call these invaders and lawbreakers by a cloyingly sympathetic term. And if the enemy starts referring to all prospective immigrants in the world as "perfect and holy children of God" we'll just have to go with that too. Don't argue, don't push back, it's not sporting.

    I'm gonna hurt my neck from all the head shaking at the never-ending stupidity and incompetence and cowardice of the White race.

    It’s not a good idea to count on “the never-ending stupidity and incompetence and cowardice of the White race”. Once they get going, those people can seriously handle up.

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  32. bomag says:
    @anonymous
    Somehow we get stuck with these politicians and they can never be dislodged. Durbin has been more worried about illegals than about real citizens for many years now. The only thing that'll make him go away will be the aging process I guess.

    It should be noted that Durbin wrote a letter to Abbott labs complaining about their rude outsourcing.

    Here’s the weasel in action.

    Yet his votes and public advocacy just makes this scheming more acceptable.

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  33. @anonymous
    Somehow we get stuck with these politicians and they can never be dislodged. Durbin has been more worried about illegals than about real citizens for many years now. The only thing that'll make him go away will be the aging process I guess.

    Anonymous, unfortunately Senators and Congresspeople don’t seem to age out. Sen. Feinstein, now 84, is actively seeking re-election.

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    They tell us "public service" involves great sacrifice, but fortunately it's one that rapacious, narcissistic, power-hungry people are willing to bear.
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  34. Corn says:
    @Neoconned
    Durbin is just pandering for the suburban Chicago Latino vote.

    Illinois is weird.....it's the only state that far from the border infested w that many illegal aliens and their kinfolk.....

    We are a weird state. Sans Cook County Illinois is basically Indiana. But thanks to Cook County we’re as reliably blue as the coasts.

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  35. @Steve Sailer
    Durbin is supposed to be pretty honest financially for an Illinois Democratic politician, but a bit of a weasel about about his promises in private.

    Steve, pretty funny and an oxymoron, an honest politician from Illinois.

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  36. @wren
    He has a history of lying about what was said in private meetings.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/25817/dick-durbin-has-history-lying-about-private-white-ryan-saavedra#

    If he is the only one who thought he heard it, and five other people didn't....

    Notes from shithole day 5: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/01/cory-booker-hurts.php

    wren, it no longer matters if Trump said it. The MSM ran with the story and will never retract or apologize, the stain is permanent.

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  37. @Buffalo Joe
    Anonymous, unfortunately Senators and Congresspeople don't seem to age out. Sen. Feinstein, now 84, is actively seeking re-election.

    They tell us “public service” involves great sacrifice, but fortunately it’s one that rapacious, narcissistic, power-hungry people are willing to bear.

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    Well said.
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  38. J1234 says:

    They grew up here, saying the Pledge of Allegiance….

    Oh. okay. I guess it was somebody else cheering for Mexico at those soccer games in California.

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    Virtually every game on U.S. soil for against Latin American opponents is an away game for the U.S. National Team. Not just Mexico, but Costa Rica, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador (those MS-13 members are really supportive of their team!)... Maybe that's why they didn't qualify for the World Cup, too many away and "home away" games.

    The U.S. Soccer Federation keeps trying to find a "home" venue for the National Team, usually in the Northwest or any other stadium not within a day's driving distance of major Latino population centers. They might need to build a stadium in Northern Montana at this rate.
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  39. Mr. Anon says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Durbin is supposed to be pretty honest financially for an Illinois Democratic politician, but a bit of a weasel about about his promises in private.

    Durbin is supposed to be pretty honest financially for an Illinois Democratic politician, but a bit of a weasel about about his promises in private.

    What does “honest” mean in that context? That, when he’s bought, he stays bought?

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  40. Mr. Anon says:
    @Harry Baldwin
    They tell us "public service" involves great sacrifice, but fortunately it's one that rapacious, narcissistic, power-hungry people are willing to bear.

    Well said.

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  41. Mr. Anon says:
    @Neoconned
    Durbin is just pandering for the suburban Chicago Latino vote.

    Illinois is weird.....it's the only state that far from the border infested w that many illegal aliens and their kinfolk.....

    Durbin is just pandering for the suburban Chicago Latino vote.

    It isn’t just a matter of local politics. The Democratic Party as a whole is pandering to Latinos in order to cement the voting habits of all those new Democratic voters they intend to make. They are encouraging latinos to replace white people. They are electing a new people, and they full well know it.

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  42. Hubbub says:

    So help me God.

    “So much for God, right?”, says “Dirty Dick” Durbin.

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  43. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Trump’s doctor quoted

    “It is called genetics,” Jackson said. “I don’t know. Some people have great genes … he has incredible genes and that’s the way God made him.”

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  44. Buck says:

    I was a public school teacher. My students were about 60% Latino, either anchor or dreamer, and many refused to say the pledge. A few of the blacks also refused. It was ridiculous.

    Dick Durbin has zero idea what he’s talking about. He should go to some of these schools as a substitute teacher and see what his dreamers really think of the U.S.. That experience would also teach him what kind of citizens the next generation are going to become.

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  45. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @J1234

    They grew up here, saying the Pledge of Allegiance....
     
    Oh. okay. I guess it was somebody else cheering for Mexico at those soccer games in California.

    Virtually every game on U.S. soil for against Latin American opponents is an away game for the U.S. National Team. Not just Mexico, but Costa Rica, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador (those MS-13 members are really supportive of their team!)… Maybe that’s why they didn’t qualify for the World Cup, too many away and “home away” games.

    The U.S. Soccer Federation keeps trying to find a “home” venue for the National Team, usually in the Northwest or any other stadium not within a day’s driving distance of major Latino population centers. They might need to build a stadium in Northern Montana at this rate.

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  46. This shows there has been a debasement of what the popular media present as what it takes to be an American. A real American, at that.

    There was a time, not so long ago, when citizenship was acknowledged to have its costs as well as benefits. An American got the benefits of living and voting in the USA. The costs ranged from jury duty to military service.

    During the World Wars, suppose a soldier was a child of immigrants, or perhaps someone who came to the US as a child. The soldier was fighting alongside other Americans, many of whom were from older stock. The idea of “He’s just as much an American as you are” was essential camaraderie, necessary to form the bonds of the Band of Brothers whose lives depended on each other in battle.

    Now, we have people who came here illegally while they were children. Their contribution to society isn’t that they have our backs in the trenches. It is that the elitists value them as cheap labor and as consumers. Being American is reduced to how much you benefit “the economy”, meaning the very rich. Someone willing to work for lower pay is more valuable to the very wealthy, and is therefore MORE American than someone whose family has been here forever.

    As for myself, I am descended from Indian chiefs. I had ancestors on the Mayflower. There are DAR and SAR chapters named after my ancestors. My ancestors fought at Lexington and Concord. My ancestors marched on the Halls of Montezuma. My ancestors fought on both sides of the Great Unpleasantness. My grandfather fought with the USMC in the Battle of Okinawa.

    But, if an illegal alien is willing to work for less money, the new paradigm is he is more American than I.

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    Well said.
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  47. Mark F. says:
    @Ivy
    Oaths are viewed as suggestions in Washington, D.C..
    I've reminded our senior California senator about the oath she swore, but to no avail. Her replacement may not be much better, although hope springs eternal.

    How is Durbin breaking his oath by suggesting that the law should be changed?

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    Durbin is betraying a trust by squealing and lying, not sure that this contradicts anything he swore except in now-erased traditional understandings.

    Regarding other oaths:
    I have been thinking about this for a while. Why do we tolerate anti-Constitutional activism from people who supposedly swore to uphold and defend the document? Why can't we have a rule that an office-holder who wants to actively campaign against a major amendment or article (like Bloomberg) must first resign from office?

    Wiki has:


    I, (name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.[73]
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  48. Corn says:
    @Paleo Liberal
    This shows there has been a debasement of what the popular media present as what it takes to be an American. A real American, at that.

    There was a time, not so long ago, when citizenship was acknowledged to have its costs as well as benefits. An American got the benefits of living and voting in the USA. The costs ranged from jury duty to military service.

    During the World Wars, suppose a soldier was a child of immigrants, or perhaps someone who came to the US as a child. The soldier was fighting alongside other Americans, many of whom were from older stock. The idea of "He's just as much an American as you are" was essential camaraderie, necessary to form the bonds of the Band of Brothers whose lives depended on each other in battle.

    Now, we have people who came here illegally while they were children. Their contribution to society isn't that they have our backs in the trenches. It is that the elitists value them as cheap labor and as consumers. Being American is reduced to how much you benefit "the economy", meaning the very rich. Someone willing to work for lower pay is more valuable to the very wealthy, and is therefore MORE American than someone whose family has been here forever.

    As for myself, I am descended from Indian chiefs. I had ancestors on the Mayflower. There are DAR and SAR chapters named after my ancestors. My ancestors fought at Lexington and Concord. My ancestors marched on the Halls of Montezuma. My ancestors fought on both sides of the Great Unpleasantness. My grandfather fought with the USMC in the Battle of Okinawa.

    But, if an illegal alien is willing to work for less money, the new paradigm is he is more American than I.

    Well said.

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  49. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Mark F.
    How is Durbin breaking his oath by suggesting that the law should be changed?

    Durbin is betraying a trust by squealing and lying, not sure that this contradicts anything he swore except in now-erased traditional understandings.

    Regarding other oaths:
    I have been thinking about this for a while. Why do we tolerate anti-Constitutional activism from people who supposedly swore to uphold and defend the document? Why can’t we have a rule that an office-holder who wants to actively campaign against a major amendment or article (like Bloomberg) must first resign from office?

    Wiki has:

    I, (name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.[73]

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  50. bomag says:
    @Amasius
    Has a single person with a platform called out the "dreamer" business for the stupid, grotesque, emotionally manipulative crap it is? Do these ILLEGAL ALIENS dream any more than the average person? Do they dream any more than the average White child in America? They're ILLEGAL ALIENS and we don't owe them a damn thing.

    But no, let's just repeat what the enemy says and call these invaders and lawbreakers by a cloyingly sympathetic term. And if the enemy starts referring to all prospective immigrants in the world as "perfect and holy children of God" we'll just have to go with that too. Don't argue, don't push back, it's not sporting.

    I'm gonna hurt my neck from all the head shaking at the never-ending stupidity and incompetence and cowardice of the White race.

    never-ending stupidity and incompetence and cowardice

    In the main, they are pretty much the opposite: crafty risk takers.

    It’s the pathological altruism that has them heading face down into the mud.

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  51. @wren
    Slightly OT: My understanding of this whole shitholegate thing is that Dick Durbin said that Trump said it, and that several other people present and Trump himself said that he didn't say it.

    Is this correct? Is Durbin the only one who heard it?

    This reminds me of when the Democrats were trying to pass the ACA and John Lewis claimed that the protesting Tea-Party crowd he walked through to get to the US Capitol spat on him and called him a google. Kind of a one man hate hoax.

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  52. Melendwyr says: • Website

    I suspect that our Congresscritters take their oath of office as seriously as we all took the recitation of the pledge.

    In fact, I have a sneaking suspicion that students are made to recite the pledge daily, by rote, in order to cause them to lose respect for the very concept of oaths.

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