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From the Evening Standard of the UK:

Woman wins £360k payout after manager’s sexist comment in the office

FIONA SIMPSON
Tuesday 1 August 2017 08:24

A secretary has been awarded a £360,000 payout from her employers after her manager made a sexist remark.

A judge ruled Marion Konczak, 62, deserved “every penny” after former employers BAE Systems tried to pull back the huge sum claiming it was an “affront to justice” over “one sexist comment”.

The Court of Appeal heard how Ms Konczak suffered a mental breakdown after being told in 2007 that “women take things more emotionally than men, whilst men tend to forget things and move on.”

This reminds me of the great Friends lawsuit that reached the California Supreme Court in 2006. From the NYT:

Television Without Pity
By CHRISTOPHER NOXON NOCT. 17, 2004

… Just how horrible is no longer a source of speculation, thanks to a former writers’ assistant who was fired from the NBC sitcom “Friends.” Amaani Lyle contends that while doing her job, which was to record anything any of the writers said, she was subjected to her bosses’ dirty, personal and just plain weird banter, so much so that it constituted sexual harassment. … Ms. Lyle is African American; her original complaint included charges of racial discrimination. …

In most cases that claim a “hostile work environment,” the defense argues that the offending actions didn’t really happen, or weren’t that bad, or that they were taken out of context. The Warner Brothers lawyers, however, do not dispute that the “Friends” writers were often lewd, crude and extravagantly vulgar. The excuse was they’re comedy writers. “They were talking about sex because that’s their job,” said Adam Levin, a partner in the Los Angeles law firm Mitchell Silberberg & Knupp. “The real crime here is that these writers are being individually sued for doing their job.”…

Both sides are making big claims for what’s at stake. Studio executives say not just the way their industry works but also the First Amendment is under attack. And some legal experts fear that if what has been called the “creative necessity” defense prevails, it will give people in show business immunity from the same standards that apply at construction sites, stock brokerages and any other workplace forced in recent decades to clean up its act. “The law should not say that people in a writers’ room can refer to women in demeaning terms but no one else can,” said Joanna Grossman, who teaches sexual harassment law at Hofstra University.

… So the defendants have gone to great lengths to emphasize the smuttiness of their workplace, while the offended party is strenuously arguing how tame it was. Which is, of course, exactly the opposite of how most sexual harassment suits play out….

WITH few exceptions, situation comedies are written by large groups of predominantly young white guys — often under-socialized, smart-alecky guys for whom “Portnoy’s Complaint” and “American Pie” are sacred texts — who are cooped up together in small spaces late into the night. …

But even when they don’t end up in the scripts, the off-color jokes, writers say, are essential. Some of the cleanest shows are created in filthy rooms, said Jeff Schaffer, who works on the HBO comedy “Curb Your Enthusiasm.” …

In this atmosphere, almost anything is fair game. “Our negativity is almost always self-directed,” said Rob Long, who wrote for “Cheers” and developed several other sitcoms, Except, that is, when the negativity is directed at someone else….

“Writers make fun of the cast relentlessly,” Mr. Long said. “There’s a huge status difference between writers and these gigantic, internationally known megastars. The cast of ‘Friends’ is beautiful and talented and funny and they seem really nice and in fact they are really nice and they did a great show and they all got really rich — and if you’re a writer, these are the people you despise.”

Ms. Lyle’s suit said that while joking about the supposed infertility of the actress Courteney Cox, one writer described her reproductive system as “full of dried up twigs” and speculated that if she tried to have sex, “she’d break in two.” One target, however, is traditionally off-limits: writers’ assistants. “It’s immoral and beneath contempt to make fun of someone making so much less money,” Mr. Long said. “They also spend a lot of time with your lunch before you eat it, if you get my drift.”

I met Mr. Long in a previous century. He wrote National Review’s “Letter from Al” column about the Veep in the 1990s. He was somewhat disturbed that I hadn’t figured out yet that half hour shows were comedies, one hour show were dramas, although in a kindly and polite manner.

Eventually, Ms. Lyle lost in the California Supreme Court.

 
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  1. Clyde says:

    photos etc. —– http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4399412/Woman-sued-Britain-s-biggest-arms-dealer-reveals-all.html

    BAE Systems prolly wanted to bring in some nice young eye candy to replace her and who can blame them. iow she figured she merited lifetime employment, so sue, sue, sue away for bogus sexism. She did unto BAE before BAE could do unto her.
    No guy can get away with this and get such a payout from BS judges unless gay and minority.

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    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    That's not what your article says. She got groped by some Saudis that her employer was doing business with.

    Saudi Arabia--the alliance that can't die fast enough.
    , @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere
    "Young eye candy" as replacement and "bogus sexism" within two sentences.
    That is just idiotic and shows that while feminists currently don't seem interested in putting forward viable arguments, there are still men around who are interested in providing them with such.
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  2. Perhaps the real story is that she was paid a huge amount to keep the Saudis happy. £350k is nothing compared to billions in arms deals.

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  3. dearieme says:

    “the Evening Standard of the UK”: please, Mr iSteve, the Evening Standard of London.

    Similarly it’s never The Times of London, because the Times claims to be a national rag rather than a local one. Though my late father stopped taking the Times precisely because, in his view, it was predominantly a parochial London rag.

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  4. Well, 1/2 a million small is not what it used to be. Breakdowns aren’t cheap anymore, especially the mental ones. It’s not so easy to just “move on”, especially if you’re a woman. She may not even come out ahead what with the Home Office and all.

    Isn’t that where Jack Straw works? (I don’t keep up with the British government bureaucracy.)

    I don’t think he’s the same guy as Jack Straw from Wichita:

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    • Replies: @TheJester
    There is a euphemism in corporate America that a woman can only use the sexual discrimination gambit once. After that, she's damaged goods ... at least from a corporate risk perspective. And, yes, payoffs of one kind or another to the ladies seem to be standard practice just so they'll go away. Cheaper than lawyering up for court. The lucky ones get large settlements that may be enough to sustain them for a while, given their future employability challenges. The others may get a modest severance package even from corporations that generally don't offer them.

    My guess is that lists circulate with women who have already played the sexual discrimination gambit ... either that or Lexis-Nexis may give HR and legal departments all they need to know in the hiring and risk abatement process.

    I've fired four women for failure to perform in my 46-year working life. Two of them filed sexual discrimination complaints against me. (I'm batting .500.) The first complaint never got off the ground and the second woman finally settled with corporate legal for a two-week severance package.

    Fortunately, management and legal supported me throughout. My professional career was unscathed by the two episodes. Indeed, management these days seems to expect these kinds of backlashes from angry women in spite of indisputable facts related to substandard performance such as failure to perform their job descriptions or show up for work in the morning. You know, the "Hell has no fury ..." syndrome.
  5. Bitfu says:

    Another commenter referred to the phenomenon of ‘Parody Timeline Singularity’. I think this qualifies.

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    • Replies: @Ben Kurtz
    I've just added this to my list of instances in which Steve Sailer has picked up on my "Onion Singularity" concept, which I define as "kind of like the Turing Test — it’s when the average reader can no longer reliability differentiate between a serious publication and satire."

    https://benkurtzblog.wordpress.com/2017/08/08/steve-sailer-has-picked-up-on-the-onion-singularity/
  6. Say something “offensive” to a woman and get a massive settlement of £360,000. Meanwhile, a woman accountant stole a similar amount from her employer (£350,000 ) and receives no jail time, because the judge said she is not the stuff of which prison population is made: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4781536/Accountant-stole-350-000-firm-walks-free.html

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    • Replies: @Moshe
    How about that woman who wrongly convicted who knows how many people because she couldn't be bothered to actually test the DNA.

    The judge had to throw out thousands of convictions.

    This means that many dangerously guilty people are on the street and that an even larger number of innocent people we're tortured with years worth of the horrors of being locked up in cages with animals.

    I think she got off with like two years or something like that.

    I'm pretty sure if a guy did that we would all know his name and he would be put away for decades, especially if he were white.

    Oh, and if this is the first you're hearing about this story you should look it up. It's one of the things you should know about.
  7. Peterike says:

    Fine old English name, Konczak.

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    • Replies: @Hibernian
    And American, too.
    , @Frau Katze
    At this point, I'm not complaining about any European, unless they're Muslim. It could be so much worse.
  8. anon says: • Disclaimer

    WITH few exceptions, situation comedies are written by large groups of predominantly young white guys — often under-socialized, smart-alecky guys for whom “Portnoy’s Complaint” and “American Pie” are sacred texts

    Portnoy’s Complaint, you say? That’s an interesting pick, and one I wouldn’t have guessed.

    Is this some of that “dog-whistling” I keep hearing about? If so, I have half a mind to travel back to 2004 and tell them that I shan’t tolerate such vile insinuations!

    I decided to look up “female comedy writer” and see what I found.

    http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/comedy/255726/10-female-comedy-tv-writers-to-watch

    One of them wrote for It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia, but the rest were pretty much what you’d expect. For example:

    Forget all that, she is currently in the process of developing a show with TruTV called Inside Caucasia. You think that sounds like a show in which an African American women traverses the plains of places usually considered “white?” Well then, you are absolutely right! Good job.

    I don’t know about you guys, but my funny bone is already aching just thinking about that.

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  9. Employers should just understand this overemotionality as one gender’s special weakness and act accordingly. In the same way, we have a water cooler with a five gallon jug on top that has to changed every few days. You think anyone other that a man changes it? To be fair during office pot luck lunches the ladies make casseroles while the men bring in bags of chips and two liter bottles of cola.

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    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    Employers should just understand this overemotionality as one gender’s special weakness and act accordingly. In the same way, we have a water cooler with a five gallon jug on top that has to changed every few days. You think anyone other that a man changes it? To be fair during office pot luck lunches the ladies make casseroles while the men bring in bags of chips and two liter bottles of cola.
     
    This is spot on. But it's how it used to be in the "golden age". With some level of capital accumulation and prosperity, we cracked down on the really exploitive abuse of women and children in factory labor. In the immediate post-War era, women primarily did "women's work" jobs for which they were well suited and no one pretended they were paragons of reason or stability and accomdation could be made women's overemotionality without making a federal case of it.

    The problem we're faced with now is we're all forced by law to pretend that women can do anything and do it better than men. And we have to humor women's overemotionality--like YouTube boss lady Susan Wojcicki's hissy fit--without calling it irrational, contra-factual, nonsense which it clearly is.
    , @Pat Boyle
    Not true. I'm a man and indeed a manly man, but I always cooked for office get together's. I brought strawberries and a chafing dish in which I had melted a couple of those big Hershey bars. People took tooth picks and dipped the strawberries in the melted chocolate.

    I did this for years. It was always a popular dish. Don't anyone say I'm not sensitive.

  10. @Clyde
    photos etc. ----- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4399412/Woman-sued-Britain-s-biggest-arms-dealer-reveals-all.html

    BAE Systems prolly wanted to bring in some nice young eye candy to replace her and who can blame them. iow she figured she merited lifetime employment, so sue, sue, sue away for bogus sexism. She did unto BAE before BAE could do unto her.
    No guy can get away with this and get such a payout from BS judges unless gay and minority.

    That’s not what your article says. She got groped by some Saudis that her employer was doing business with.

    Saudi Arabia–the alliance that can’t die fast enough.

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  11. Rowan says:

    “Marion Konczak” – Can’t get a more British name than that…

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    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    Sexual harrassment has led to a flood of whores like her,trying to cash in on nothing,and pimps like the Hoffman bitch,making their stupid cases seem legit. Money For Nothing,the anthem of the bloodsucking pigs. Us? We got to move these microwave ovens...
    , @Hibernian
    See my reply to Peterike.
  12. @Clyde
    photos etc. ----- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4399412/Woman-sued-Britain-s-biggest-arms-dealer-reveals-all.html

    BAE Systems prolly wanted to bring in some nice young eye candy to replace her and who can blame them. iow she figured she merited lifetime employment, so sue, sue, sue away for bogus sexism. She did unto BAE before BAE could do unto her.
    No guy can get away with this and get such a payout from BS judges unless gay and minority.

    “Young eye candy” as replacement and “bogus sexism” within two sentences.
    That is just idiotic and shows that while feminists currently don’t seem interested in putting forward viable arguments, there are still men around who are interested in providing them with such.

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    • Replies: @AM

    feminists currently don’t seem interested in putting forward viable arguments, there are still men around who are interested in providing them with such.
     
    We can't fight out of control cultural marxism with more of the same. It just doesn't work.

    Yeah, what he said was annoying. But what we need right now, in the West, is room for him to say stuff like that. Men and women are different. Men in positions of power like eye candy and..given female nags from any historical era I don't blame them either (I'm a woman).

    The solution, though, is for competent, powerful women to walk away, not make all social spaces into tea party zones. Competence and looks are not correlated. Women who are pleasant and competent will always have work, particularly in the West. It's time for us to put on our big girl panties and say "Yes, we have agency, too and such comments are not a big deal". They really are not a big deal, in the end.
  13. Sue D. Nim says: • Website
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    • Replies: @secretaryns
    What? Anecdotal, industry-specific, microeconomic costs to Brexit? I can't believe it! The people have been duped!

    Economists have long tried to educate people, so that the simple is not substituted for the complex. To mixed results, I guess.

  14. To amplify my previous comment:
    There is a post on here somewhere in which Steve talked about the women some colleges appear to employ to attract black athletes. “Who can blame them?”
    Well, either you are consistent or you have no argument (directed not at Steve, but at Clyde).
    (There are those, of course, who believe in the irrelevance of arguments. They are not to be found exclusively on the left.)

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  15. anonguy says:
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    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Thanks, I'll post.
    , @Njguy73
    If you wish to imagine the future, picture a boot stomping on a human face, then giving her a great lay...forever.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism
     
    "The position of women in the movement is prone."

    --Kwame Ture
  16. Whiskey says: • Website

    This is the whole point of the legal system and feminism, the US Civil Rights movement, and anti-racism abroad — that White men have no rights so that non-White men can have enhanced rights.

    This is why its been so popular; White women are allied with it because it puts them ahead of White men and they can always be the concubines etc. of the non White male conquerors, sadly that’s genetically hard wired in White women and not something that is amenable to persuasion.

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  17. J1234 says:

    The Court of Appeal heard how Ms Konczak suffered a mental breakdown after being told in 2007 that “women take things more emotionally than men, whilst men tend to forget things and move on.”

    I’m thinking the author of that article moonlights for The Onion.

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  18. AM says:
    @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere
    "Young eye candy" as replacement and "bogus sexism" within two sentences.
    That is just idiotic and shows that while feminists currently don't seem interested in putting forward viable arguments, there are still men around who are interested in providing them with such.

    feminists currently don’t seem interested in putting forward viable arguments, there are still men around who are interested in providing them with such.

    We can’t fight out of control cultural marxism with more of the same. It just doesn’t work.

    Yeah, what he said was annoying. But what we need right now, in the West, is room for him to say stuff like that. Men and women are different. Men in positions of power like eye candy and..given female nags from any historical era I don’t blame them either (I’m a woman).

    The solution, though, is for competent, powerful women to walk away, not make all social spaces into tea party zones. Competence and looks are not correlated. Women who are pleasant and competent will always have work, particularly in the West. It’s time for us to put on our big girl panties and say “Yes, we have agency, too and such comments are not a big deal”. They really are not a big deal, in the end.

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    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    It’s time for us to put on our big girl panties and ....
     
    .jpegs or it didn't happen!

    (wait, did you write some more stuff?)

  19. @Sue D. Nim
    BREXIT - Crops rotting in the field

    www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4785714/Brexodus-migrant-workers-leave-fruit-rot.html

    What? Anecdotal, industry-specific, microeconomic costs to Brexit? I can’t believe it! The people have been duped!

    Economists have long tried to educate people, so that the simple is not substituted for the complex. To mixed results, I guess.

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  20. @MIster Wilson
    Employers should just understand this overemotionality as one gender's special weakness and act accordingly. In the same way, we have a water cooler with a five gallon jug on top that has to changed every few days. You think anyone other that a man changes it? To be fair during office pot luck lunches the ladies make casseroles while the men bring in bags of chips and two liter bottles of cola.

    Employers should just understand this overemotionality as one gender’s special weakness and act accordingly. In the same way, we have a water cooler with a five gallon jug on top that has to changed every few days. You think anyone other that a man changes it? To be fair during office pot luck lunches the ladies make casseroles while the men bring in bags of chips and two liter bottles of cola.

    This is spot on. But it’s how it used to be in the “golden age”. With some level of capital accumulation and prosperity, we cracked down on the really exploitive abuse of women and children in factory labor. In the immediate post-War era, women primarily did “women’s work” jobs for which they were well suited and no one pretended they were paragons of reason or stability and accomdation could be made women’s overemotionality without making a federal case of it.

    The problem we’re faced with now is we’re all forced by law to pretend that women can do anything and do it better than men. And we have to humor women’s overemotionality–like YouTube boss lady Susan Wojcicki’s hissy fit–without calling it irrational, contra-factual, nonsense which it clearly is.

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The problem we’re faced with now is we’re all forced by law to pretend that women can do anything and do it better than men.
     
    Jennifer Roback Morse's concise definition of feminism: Men and women are exactly alike, except women are better.
    , @TheJester
    In my college years in Kansas, women who worked for the universities and for the state had the right to take time off during their periods. It could be menstrual cramps; it could be mood swings. It didn't matter.

    Then, the pompous announcement that men and women were equal. This was a major setback for women's rights and women's interests. This was the era in which women lost the right to welfare for themselves and their children. Back into the "coal mines". President Clinton made sure they went to work. And the kids? To hell with kids! Women also lost the right to special treatment during their periods.

    I understand that in some states laws allowing special treatment of women during their periods are being reinstated. This is a very healthy social trend ... recognizing a woman's unique vulnerability and responding accordingly.

    The failure of a society to protect its women is like throwing away its "seed corn" ... something any rural society would understand. As the disease of liberalism spread and contaminated our social system, we indeed threw away our "seed corn" to appease the Goddess of Equality under the proposition that women are really frail men in disguise. We are reaping the whirlwind.
  21. @Rowan
    "Marion Konczak" - Can't get a more British name than that...

    Sexual harrassment has led to a flood of whores like her,trying to cash in on nothing,and pimps like the Hoffman bitch,making their stupid cases seem legit. Money For Nothing,the anthem of the bloodsucking pigs. Us? We got to move these microwave ovens…

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  22. Anon says: • Disclaimer

    I think the fact that she is 62 is salient. I think a lot of these “workplace harassment” suits are the new Golden Watch for retiring workers. A little extra to see them out the door in retirement

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    The incident happened 10 years ago.

    At 52 a male might be at the peak of his career and earning power, and that arc farther along and hire than that of a 52-year-old woman. Who, say, might have gotten a late start, had less of a work ethic, taken time off for breeding, or in this lady's case likely bounced around in various jobs because she was too sensitive to live or work with.

  23. Yan Shen says:
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    That needs to be inline: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4e741d80c9fb629e4e1569e21f57516683f6b4fd1630e17c3412297feb9959d4.jpg
  24. Pat Boyle says:
    @MIster Wilson
    Employers should just understand this overemotionality as one gender's special weakness and act accordingly. In the same way, we have a water cooler with a five gallon jug on top that has to changed every few days. You think anyone other that a man changes it? To be fair during office pot luck lunches the ladies make casseroles while the men bring in bags of chips and two liter bottles of cola.

    Not true. I’m a man and indeed a manly man, but I always cooked for office get together’s. I brought strawberries and a chafing dish in which I had melted a couple of those big Hershey bars. People took tooth picks and dipped the strawberries in the melted chocolate.

    I did this for years. It was always a popular dish. Don’t anyone say I’m not sensitive.

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  25. @anonguy
    What do you guys make of this?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html

    Thanks, I’ll post.

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  26. Njguy73 says:
    @anonguy
    What do you guys make of this?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html

    If you wish to imagine the future, picture a boot stomping on a human face, then giving her a great lay…forever.

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  27. @AM

    feminists currently don’t seem interested in putting forward viable arguments, there are still men around who are interested in providing them with such.
     
    We can't fight out of control cultural marxism with more of the same. It just doesn't work.

    Yeah, what he said was annoying. But what we need right now, in the West, is room for him to say stuff like that. Men and women are different. Men in positions of power like eye candy and..given female nags from any historical era I don't blame them either (I'm a woman).

    The solution, though, is for competent, powerful women to walk away, not make all social spaces into tea party zones. Competence and looks are not correlated. Women who are pleasant and competent will always have work, particularly in the West. It's time for us to put on our big girl panties and say "Yes, we have agency, too and such comments are not a big deal". They really are not a big deal, in the end.

    It’s time for us to put on our big girl panties and ….

    .jpegs or it didn’t happen!

    (wait, did you write some more stuff?)

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  28. Olorin says:
    @Anon
    I think the fact that she is 62 is salient. I think a lot of these "workplace harassment" suits are the new Golden Watch for retiring workers. A little extra to see them out the door in retirement

    The incident happened 10 years ago.

    At 52 a male might be at the peak of his career and earning power, and that arc farther along and hire than that of a 52-year-old woman. Who, say, might have gotten a late start, had less of a work ethic, taken time off for breeding, or in this lady’s case likely bounced around in various jobs because she was too sensitive to live or work with.

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  29. Moshe says:
    @Perspective
    Say something "offensive" to a woman and get a massive settlement of £360,000. Meanwhile, a woman accountant stole a similar amount from her employer (£350,000 ) and receives no jail time, because the judge said she is not the stuff of which prison population is made: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4781536/Accountant-stole-350-000-firm-walks-free.html

    How about that woman who wrongly convicted who knows how many people because she couldn’t be bothered to actually test the DNA.

    The judge had to throw out thousands of convictions.

    This means that many dangerously guilty people are on the street and that an even larger number of innocent people we’re tortured with years worth of the horrors of being locked up in cages with animals.

    I think she got off with like two years or something like that.

    I’m pretty sure if a guy did that we would all know his name and he would be put away for decades, especially if he were white.

    Oh, and if this is the first you’re hearing about this story you should look it up. It’s one of the things you should know about.

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    • Agree: David
    • Replies: @CJ
    Moshe, it may not be so easy to look up. Crime lab gong shows are epidemic. There are so many that there is a web site listing them.

    Crime Lab & Forensic Scandals
  30. Hibernian says:
    @Rowan
    "Marion Konczak" - Can't get a more British name than that...

    See my reply to Peterike.

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  31. res says:
    @Yan Shen
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4e741d80c9fb629e4e1569e21f57516683f6b4fd1630e17c3412297feb9959d4.jpg?w=800&h=598

    The uh real source of the STEM gender gap...

    That needs to be inline:

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    • Replies: @Olorin
    Speaking as somebody with way too many years in the Ed Biz, I'd say this cartoon presents a classic case of an environmental test which some figure out how to ace.

    Evolution at work, IOW.

    Why go to all the pain and work and frustration of studying science or math or engineering when you can take easy courses...and end up with well-paying jobs in science, math, and engineering anyway?

    So long as there's a necessary handful of male drones willing to do the work/keep the game going and willing to be beaten regularly for being male, why not take the easier path? Evolution rarely rewards those who use too much energy getting to a goal, compared to those who get there with less expenditure.

    Blaming males is also a distracting display, drawing attention away from the evolutionary strategy deployed to acquire these advantages of resources/territory and perhaps even mates.

    So the ladies are not as unsubtle as the cartoon implies. Quite the opposite.

    Which is part of why white men in tech are having such a hard time dealing with them. You can build an awesome nuclear powered titanium trebuchet and fling a thousand Heartistes into the midst of the ladies. It will only matter to the other guys in the clubhouse.

    Meanwhile, the gals figure out how to build a nest in whatever niche.

    Time was when men and women figured out how to team up and apply that combined bluntness and subtlety to problems of evolution, in a way that would advantage their offspring. Which is to say, apply their ancestors' investment in themselves.

  32. @Peterike
    Fine old English name, Konczak.

    At this point, I’m not complaining about any European, unless they’re Muslim. It could be so much worse.

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  33. Mr. Anon says:

    I wonder how much of Rob Long’s conservatism – to the extent that he is a conservative – is explained by his having to work with liberal a-hole Ted Danson.

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  34. @AnotherDad

    Employers should just understand this overemotionality as one gender’s special weakness and act accordingly. In the same way, we have a water cooler with a five gallon jug on top that has to changed every few days. You think anyone other that a man changes it? To be fair during office pot luck lunches the ladies make casseroles while the men bring in bags of chips and two liter bottles of cola.
     
    This is spot on. But it's how it used to be in the "golden age". With some level of capital accumulation and prosperity, we cracked down on the really exploitive abuse of women and children in factory labor. In the immediate post-War era, women primarily did "women's work" jobs for which they were well suited and no one pretended they were paragons of reason or stability and accomdation could be made women's overemotionality without making a federal case of it.

    The problem we're faced with now is we're all forced by law to pretend that women can do anything and do it better than men. And we have to humor women's overemotionality--like YouTube boss lady Susan Wojcicki's hissy fit--without calling it irrational, contra-factual, nonsense which it clearly is.

    The problem we’re faced with now is we’re all forced by law to pretend that women can do anything and do it better than men.

    Jennifer Roback Morse’s concise definition of feminism: Men and women are exactly alike, except women are better.

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  35. @anonguy
    What do you guys make of this?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html

    Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism

    “The position of women in the movement is prone.”

    Kwame Ture

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  36. Ben Kurtz says: • Website
    @Bitfu
    Another commenter referred to the phenomenon of 'Parody Timeline Singularity'. I think this qualifies.

    I’ve just added this to my list of instances in which Steve Sailer has picked up on my “Onion Singularity” concept, which I define as “kind of like the Turing Test — it’s when the average reader can no longer reliability differentiate between a serious publication and satire.”

    https://benkurtzblog.wordpress.com/2017/08/08/steve-sailer-has-picked-up-on-the-onion-singularity/

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  37. TheJester says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Well, 1/2 a million small is not what it used to be. Breakdowns aren't cheap anymore, especially the mental ones. It's not so easy to just "move on", especially if you're a woman. She may not even come out ahead what with the Home Office and all.

    Isn't that where Jack Straw works? (I don't keep up with the British government bureaucracy.)

    I don't think he's the same guy as Jack Straw from Wichita:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAv71VbdkBc

    There is a euphemism in corporate America that a woman can only use the sexual discrimination gambit once. After that, she’s damaged goods … at least from a corporate risk perspective. And, yes, payoffs of one kind or another to the ladies seem to be standard practice just so they’ll go away. Cheaper than lawyering up for court. The lucky ones get large settlements that may be enough to sustain them for a while, given their future employability challenges. The others may get a modest severance package even from corporations that generally don’t offer them.

    My guess is that lists circulate with women who have already played the sexual discrimination gambit … either that or Lexis-Nexis may give HR and legal departments all they need to know in the hiring and risk abatement process.

    I’ve fired four women for failure to perform in my 46-year working life. Two of them filed sexual discrimination complaints against me. (I’m batting .500.) The first complaint never got off the ground and the second woman finally settled with corporate legal for a two-week severance package.

    Fortunately, management and legal supported me throughout. My professional career was unscathed by the two episodes. Indeed, management these days seems to expect these kinds of backlashes from angry women in spite of indisputable facts related to substandard performance such as failure to perform their job descriptions or show up for work in the morning. You know, the “Hell has no fury …” syndrome.

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  38. David says:

    Some of the details of the case, like her breakdown, are ridiculous. But the basic fact pattern is believable and not trivial.

    BEA had her working with a bunch of Saudis in London, one of whom groped and kissed her. When she reported the incident she was reassigned. In complaining further, she was given the line about women not getting over things. The line is evidence of her manager’s attitude to the incident, not the wrong itself.

    Many years ago I worked for a big financial company in New York that had a conference featuring Jim Rogers. He groped a woman in the kitchen, a woman I’d be inclined to believe, and was shown the door within half an hour.

    I agree with that treatment. If a much stronger man pushed me around in the kitchen, I’d expect my employer to care. Why shouldn’t a woman?

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  39. Olorin says:
    @res
    That needs to be inline: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4e741d80c9fb629e4e1569e21f57516683f6b4fd1630e17c3412297feb9959d4.jpg

    Speaking as somebody with way too many years in the Ed Biz, I’d say this cartoon presents a classic case of an environmental test which some figure out how to ace.

    Evolution at work, IOW.

    Why go to all the pain and work and frustration of studying science or math or engineering when you can take easy courses…and end up with well-paying jobs in science, math, and engineering anyway?

    So long as there’s a necessary handful of male drones willing to do the work/keep the game going and willing to be beaten regularly for being male, why not take the easier path? Evolution rarely rewards those who use too much energy getting to a goal, compared to those who get there with less expenditure.

    Blaming males is also a distracting display, drawing attention away from the evolutionary strategy deployed to acquire these advantages of resources/territory and perhaps even mates.

    So the ladies are not as unsubtle as the cartoon implies. Quite the opposite.

    Which is part of why white men in tech are having such a hard time dealing with them. You can build an awesome nuclear powered titanium trebuchet and fling a thousand Heartistes into the midst of the ladies. It will only matter to the other guys in the clubhouse.

    Meanwhile, the gals figure out how to build a nest in whatever niche.

    Time was when men and women figured out how to team up and apply that combined bluntness and subtlety to problems of evolution, in a way that would advantage their offspring. Which is to say, apply their ancestors’ investment in themselves.

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  40. CJ says:
    @Moshe
    How about that woman who wrongly convicted who knows how many people because she couldn't be bothered to actually test the DNA.

    The judge had to throw out thousands of convictions.

    This means that many dangerously guilty people are on the street and that an even larger number of innocent people we're tortured with years worth of the horrors of being locked up in cages with animals.

    I think she got off with like two years or something like that.

    I'm pretty sure if a guy did that we would all know his name and he would be put away for decades, especially if he were white.

    Oh, and if this is the first you're hearing about this story you should look it up. It's one of the things you should know about.

    Moshe, it may not be so easy to look up. Crime lab gong shows are epidemic. There are so many that there is a web site listing them.

    Crime Lab & Forensic Scandals

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  41. TheJester says:
    @AnotherDad

    Employers should just understand this overemotionality as one gender’s special weakness and act accordingly. In the same way, we have a water cooler with a five gallon jug on top that has to changed every few days. You think anyone other that a man changes it? To be fair during office pot luck lunches the ladies make casseroles while the men bring in bags of chips and two liter bottles of cola.
     
    This is spot on. But it's how it used to be in the "golden age". With some level of capital accumulation and prosperity, we cracked down on the really exploitive abuse of women and children in factory labor. In the immediate post-War era, women primarily did "women's work" jobs for which they were well suited and no one pretended they were paragons of reason or stability and accomdation could be made women's overemotionality without making a federal case of it.

    The problem we're faced with now is we're all forced by law to pretend that women can do anything and do it better than men. And we have to humor women's overemotionality--like YouTube boss lady Susan Wojcicki's hissy fit--without calling it irrational, contra-factual, nonsense which it clearly is.

    In my college years in Kansas, women who worked for the universities and for the state had the right to take time off during their periods. It could be menstrual cramps; it could be mood swings. It didn’t matter.

    Then, the pompous announcement that men and women were equal. This was a major setback for women’s rights and women’s interests. This was the era in which women lost the right to welfare for themselves and their children. Back into the “coal mines”. President Clinton made sure they went to work. And the kids? To hell with kids! Women also lost the right to special treatment during their periods.

    I understand that in some states laws allowing special treatment of women during their periods are being reinstated. This is a very healthy social trend … recognizing a woman’s unique vulnerability and responding accordingly.

    The failure of a society to protect its women is like throwing away its “seed corn” … something any rural society would understand. As the disease of liberalism spread and contaminated our social system, we indeed threw away our “seed corn” to appease the Goddess of Equality under the proposition that women are really frail men in disguise. We are reaping the whirlwind.

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  42. anonguy says:

    President Clinton made sure they went to work.

    Back in the early 1990 or so, I used to commonly make the observation that the end of the Cold War was going to bring capitalism to the formerly Communist nations but to the United States as well.

    It is amazing how quickly everything fell into place.

    My theory is information age societies change/adapt much more quickly because the increased flow of information essentially upclocks a society, makes everything happen faster.

    Like right now, the SJW-ism is spreading like wildfire at an alarmingly increasing rate. It is escalating palpably from week to week now.

    Maybe the Confucian based societies will rally now, what was often viewed as a hidebound mindset, inhibiting innovation, etc, may now be a positive societal counterbalance to the chaos of an information based society. The Chinese Great Wall is working for the Chinese.

    Western civilization is in a crisis in a way that China, Japan, are not.

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  43. “WITH few exceptions, situation comedies are written by large groups of predominantly young white guys”

    Do they mean ‘White’, or (((white)))?

    The first 20 writers were:

    David Crane …
    Marta Kauffman …
    Ted Cohen …
    Andrew Reich …
    Scott Silveri …
    Shana Goldberg-Meehan
    Greg Malins …
    Sherry Bilsing …
    Ellen Kreamer …
    Adam Chase …
    Brian Buckner
    Sebastian Jones …
    Seth Kurland …
    Alexa Junge …
    Michael Curtis …
    Wil Calhoun …
    Mark J. Kunerth …
    Ira Ungerleider …
    Doty Abrams …
    Dana Klein …
    Jeff Astrof …
    Mike Sikowitz …
    Michael Borkow

    (from: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108778/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm)

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