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  1. IHTG says:

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    Full story: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-snow-day-a-flurry-of-doubts-over-spending-bill-then-a-truce/2018/03/21/40927fae-2d38-11e8-8ad6-fbc50284fce8_story.html
    , @Anonymous
    Trump should take a page from Obama and Executive Order his way to the wall. Its pretty clear the elites are just not going to play fair and let the American people have what they voted for (much like the British elites are reneging on Brexit). So why play by their rules any longer? Another option, order the National Guard to build it. They're supposed to protect the borders after all.
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  2. Thomas says:

    I’d say so, unless he finds the balls to veto. He’s been whining for a few weeks now on Twitter that nobody wants to make a “deal” with him over DACA. Looks weak everywhere these days: immigration, guns, Mueller, leaks.

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    • Replies: @Berty
    Trump's stupidity and incompetence and lack of deal making skills and lack of self-discipline is what has torpedoed his agenda. He has good ideas about immigration and trade but if he has no ability to make them a reality than it doesn't matter.
    , @Realist
    Trump is a meandering fool.
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  3. President Trump should veto the Ryan/McConnell/Pelosi/Schumer budget and make immigration and sovereignty the issues for the mid-term elections. Trump could save the GOP from getting wiped out in November by calling for an immigration moratorium, the immediate deportation of all illegal aliens and the start of a fencing and wall system on the border between Mexico and the United States.

    Schumer and the GOP Cheap Labor Faction agree on open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal aliens. Schumer and the GOP Cheap Labor Faction agree on flooding more guest workers into the United States. Schumer and the GOP Cheap Labor Faction want to use mass immigration to destroy national sovereignty in the United States.

    Trump must declare war on the GOP Cheap Labor Faction to prove to independent voters and Democrat voters that he puts America First. Trump must start a brawl with Ryan and McConnell as well as the Democrats. If Trump goes along with this budget mess and increases guest workers and H-2B visa workers and if Trump is not seen as fighting for the American people, then the GOP will be wiped out in 2018.

    TRUMP FIGHTS OR HE WATCHES THE GOP VOTE EVAPORATE IN 2018

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  4. Time to shut it down:

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  5. anon • Disclaimer says:

    The Jewish media promised me Trump was gonna declare martial law and have a Haavara deportation program for Latinos. When’s that gonna happen?

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    • Replies: @Declane
    According to leftists Trump is both literally Hitler and running scared of Mueller. It gets to be a bit confusing when you try to consider the logical outcome of any of their proposed scenarios.
    , @Western union
    It is my unfortunate duty to inform you that... the Jews lied to you, sir.

    The Jews lied.
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  6. So, a retard outsmarted a mongoloid. Schumer’s bragging this?

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  7. Declane says:
    @anon
    The Jewish media promised me Trump was gonna declare martial law and have a Haavara deportation program for Latinos. When's that gonna happen?

    According to leftists Trump is both literally Hitler and running scared of Mueller. It gets to be a bit confusing when you try to consider the logical outcome of any of their proposed scenarios.

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  8. J.Ross says: • Website

    OT Scotland’s police twitter account is rolling out a variation of the Canadian literal blue pill.

    https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/03/21/straight-outta-orwell-scotland-polices-new-campaign-is-simply-terrifying/

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    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    These are the same Scottish police who took away every pistol in Dunblane, except the only one that mattered.
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  9. Jews win.
    Goys lose.
    Same as always.
    Dumb white trash.
    Lol.

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  10. @anon
    The Jewish media promised me Trump was gonna declare martial law and have a Haavara deportation program for Latinos. When's that gonna happen?

    It is my unfortunate duty to inform you that… the Jews lied to you, sir.

    The Jews lied.

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  11. J.Ross says: • Website

    OT Broward County School Board meeting to plan political protests using children; they also talk freely about using public school resources for political purposes, like xeroxing flyers. The protest they’re talking about is the supposedly called-off one where they will generate buzz by illegally bringing firearms to the Capitol.

    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/164864806

    At Instagram:
    WeAreTheChange_dc
    Audio
    https://youtu.be/2M0FWh2tOwg [
    Are public school teachers allowed to — oh, never mind, this is Broward County.

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    • Replies: @Mishra

    Are public school teachers allowed to — oh, never mind, this is Broward County.
     
    Correction, this is America and it's the Current Year.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    The protest they’re talking about is the supposedly called-off one where they will generate buzz by illegally bringing firearms to the Capitol.
     
    These people are dumber than Huey Newton. He artfully marched his armed Panthers through the Capitol in Sacramento without violating a single statute.
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  12. Whiskey says: • Website

    Trump is a weak cuck

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    • LOL: The Z Blog
    • Troll: IHTG
    • Replies: @Neoconned
    How is he a troll for pointing out the obvious?

    Look there's some room for compromise but if you aren't putting the boot in, you're having it shoved up your rectum. It can't be both ways.....
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  13. Luke Lea says:

    Hope Trump vetoes and plays chicken going into the fall. We might even see a revolt inside the Democratic Party, leading to total political realignment.

    Let the American people decide!

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  14. Boethiuss says:

    It’s too much to hope for that we’d get a wall. Let’s recall that the key point of a wall is that it’s a concession we make to them, it’s not worth nearly so much if it’s the other way around.

    That said, it would be nice if we could keep the Gateway Tunnel and the like infrastructure from getting off the ground. As it is, you have millions of people, mostly Democrats, spending their time in PATH tunnels going from Jersey to Manhattan and vice versa, which is exactly what they’re supposed to be doing.

    But the most important thing is that all this is pretty small beer. We need to get in a better position than we are for 2018, and I don’t think this makes a big difference either way. What does make a difference is the extent Trump turns off people who would be inclined to vote for him, or by extension vote Republican.

    One important detail that’s been glossed over is the fact that when Trump was flirting with 45% approval a month ago, he went completely off Twitter for at least a weekend. The things that have happened since then aren’t nearly so positive.

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  15. WLW says: • Website

    I hope this isn’t true. What is with the Republican party? Both McConnel and Paul Ryan need to go. I want the wall. Schumer gets his tunnel and we get zilch???? The Republican Party is the party of losers, turncoats and idiots. The only man that has it right is President Donald J. Trump. We need the wall. The Republican Party is the Sick party. Trump is winning—and all the majority of Repukes can do is stab him in the back. It is sick.

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    • Replies: @Moses

    The Republican Party is the party of losers, turncoats and idiots.
     
    And cucks. Don't forget cucks.

    They lose, and lose, and lose. And yield while our cultural norms and institutions are taken over by leftists.

    But, gosh darn it, they have principles!

    Cuck "republicans" are worse than Antifa. Treasonous.
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  16. Is it time to drag out the old Instapundit standard? (This is a reverse version.)

    They said if I voted for the Hildabeast, illegal aliens would be welcomed with open arms, the wars in the Middle East would continue, and we’d make enemies with Russia, and they were right!

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  17. Mishra says:
    @J.Ross
    OT Broward County School Board meeting to plan political protests using children; they also talk freely about using public school resources for political purposes, like xeroxing flyers. The protest they're talking about is the supposedly called-off one where they will generate buzz by illegally bringing firearms to the Capitol.
    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/164864806
    At Instagram:
    WeAreTheChange_dc
    Audio
    https://youtu.be/2M0FWh2tOwg [
    Are public school teachers allowed to -- oh, never mind, this is Broward County.

    Are public school teachers allowed to — oh, never mind, this is Broward County.

    Correction, this is America and it’s the Current Year.

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  18. Thomas says:

    This is probably Trump’s last chance to get the wall and, with it, any chance of reelection in 2020. The odds are that the Democrats will take the House in November. September will be too close to the election for the Republicans to take risks with the budget then. If he goes into the 2020 election and nothing has happened on the wall, it’ll be his “read my lips” moment.

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    This is probably Trump’s last chance to get the wall and, with it, any chance of reelection in 2020. The odds are that the Democrats will take the House in November. September will be too close to the election for the Republicans to take risks with the budget then. If he goes into the 2020 election and nothing has happened on the wall, it’ll be his “read my lips” moment.
     
    This could end up working out that way, but it's a failure on our part if it does.

    Objectively speaking, Trump's record is better than it needs to be for anybody who is persuadeable to vote Republican. So far, we have low unemployment (and getting lower), positive growth, Gorsuch, ISIS defeated, the possibility of North Korea denuclearization, maybe even meaningful wage growth.

    More importantly, there hasn't been any significant backsliding on any issue relative to the end of the Obama Administration, and there's a good chance DACA will be ended as well. The negatives are Charlottesville and Parkland, which in big picture terms, aren't really that big a deal.

    Given all that, we're still stuck at 40% approval. The problem is Trump himself, his persona, and the perception of instability that goes with that.

    Trump and his enthusiasts have drunk the Kool-Aid hard about hard the alpha-male symbolism and the perception of toughness. But no matter how strong Trump's posture or persuasive words are according to the likes of Scott Adams, we're still losing out.

    To a significant extent, strength in politics comes from the perception of permanence, and Trump clearly doesn't have it. There's just no way to do a body-language or linguistic analysis and try to pretend any different. We can all see that there are no legions of Trump loyalists with important jobs in the executive branch (or anywhere else in government, or in the punditocracy). We're all in a position of waiting for the whole thing to finally fall apart like a 77 Chevelle.

    But you know, there is one thing that is permanent in our political landscape, the Republican Party. The GOP has been around in its current form since before the Civil War. Maybe we should be working helping them out and not worrying about Trump so much, because they are going to be around long after Trump is gone. And we'll probably be needing them then as well.
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  19. IHTG says:
    @IHTG
    https://twitter.com/costareports/status/976523186094342149
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  20. The Z Blog says: • Website

    I think at this point it is safe to say Trump was just a lucky bullshitter. He caught lightning in a bottle and got lucky in having an opponent that was appealing as rectal cancer.

    What I find remarkable about Trump is just how gutless he has been in office. Maybe they do have dirt on him. Or maybe he is a just a clueless loud mouth.

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    100% spot on post.

    #NeverTrump
    , @Dr. X

    Maybe they do have dirt on him. Or maybe he is a just a clueless loud mouth.
     
    I'm inclined to think it's the latter.

    Of course, it's possible to get "dirt" on anyone, especially someone with Trump's sexual history. But dirt is often manufactured, and the significance of it is subject to the interpretation of it that the mainstream media feeds the masses. There was PLENTY of REAL dirt on Hillary with regard to the private e-mail server and the Clinton Foundation, but the media gave it a collective "meh."

    So I think that Trump was just a lucky bullshitter. I think that his instincts are basically correct, but they're 25-30 years out of date. He may be right to rail against NAFTA, but that ship sailed in 1992 and the Midwestern white working class has been decimated in the intervening years. Likewise with immigration. The time to build a wall was 1986 -- the time of the Reagan amnesty. Now that California's practically become Northern Mexico, we're a day late and a dollar short.

    Can Trump actually turn it around? Might be too late.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson II
    So why aren't you President of the United States? No luck? Or do you suppose you are not a bullshitter?
    , @Reg Cæsar
    Hey! You apologize to rectal cancer, right now!
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  21. Neoconned says:

    https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/exclusive-fired-fbi-official-authorized-criminal-probe-sessions/story%3fid=53914006#ampshare=http://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-fired-fbi-official-authorized-criminal-probe-sessions/story?id%3D53914006

    Are Andrew McCabe and Jim Comey certifiably insane?

    McCabe launched a felony investigation into his boss without going to Congress.

    Sedition charges come to mind….in another era they could have been hanged for this for treason….this is bordering on an attempted coup of a dually elected pesidency….. McCabe should count his stars he’s not in shackles.

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    this is bordering on an attempted coup of a duly elected presidency….. McCabe should count his stars he’s not in shackles.
     
    Agree.
    , @Twodees Partain
    "Sedition charges come to mind….in another era they could have been hanged for this for treason"

    The definition of treason in the US Constitution is the only valid standard for treason. Not that I like what McCabe did, but look at how it came about. It started with Sessions, who you left out of your indictment.

    Trump could have stopped all of this shit as soon as it started with some well-placed firings, but he's clueless and is also advised by his enemies, which is bad enough, but he doesn't even seem to recognize that he has surrounded himself with enemies. Trump was asking for it by appointing Sessions as AG. He's a retard. Face it.
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  22. Neoconned says:
    @Whiskey
    Trump is a weak cuck

    How is he a troll for pointing out the obvious?

    Look there’s some room for compromise but if you aren’t putting the boot in, you’re having it shoved up your rectum. It can’t be both ways…..

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  23. @The Z Blog
    I think at this point it is safe to say Trump was just a lucky bullshitter. He caught lightning in a bottle and got lucky in having an opponent that was appealing as rectal cancer.

    What I find remarkable about Trump is just how gutless he has been in office. Maybe they do have dirt on him. Or maybe he is a just a clueless loud mouth.

    100% spot on post.

    #NeverTrump

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    100% spot on post. #NeverTrump
     
    Evan MacMuffin, I had no idea you post here. Your service as a cucker has been well noted. What would America do without you?
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  24. From the Kaus link: Ryan’s business-first wing of the GOP traded those immigration issues to win many gains for themselves, including a massive $78 billion increase in defense spending, and a huge $52 billion increase in domestic spending.

    What, precisely, are we “defending?” Nothing, it would seem.

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    What, precisely, are we “defending?”
     
    We're defending our right to be invaded by the Third World.


    Nothing, it would seem.
     
    Pretty much. Hope your corner of the handbasket is comfy.
    , @Twodees Partain
    "What, precisely, are we “defending?” "

    Israel, of course.
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  25. Lot says:

    In the final wall compromise, $1.6 billion will be available for physical barriers along the Mexican border, but strings are attached. Most of the funding, officials said, can be used only for repairs or for “secondary” barriers along border stretches where there is already a wall. The rest can be used for 33 miles of new barriers, but there are restrictions on the type: Only levees or existing “bollard” fencing can be built, rather than the concrete prototypes Trump appears to favor.

    $1.6 billion is a lot of money. Trump could ignore the restriction on it and simply build more than the 33 miles of new wall by simply ordering the Homeland Security Secretary to do so.

    Courts have no power to enforce such a part of the law because no individual has standing to bring suit. The way to enforce such laws against a president is impeachment. Would Congress really do that for a President who ran on the Wall, got funding for it, and then decided national security required him to ignore a single legal restriction on its placement?

    The whole wall vs bollard fence issue is pretty minor. I’ve seen it at the San Diego border, nobody is getting over it. Even if Trump does not ignore the restriction on the funding, improving older lower fences up to the highest existing standard is a small victory at least.

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    • Replies: @istevefan
    For a wall that the democrats say won't work they seem pretty intent to fight tooth and nail to ensure it is never built. Ditto for the RINOs and the Chamber of Commerce.

    Of course they might say they are not in favor of wasting $20 billion or so on something that won't work. But we know wasting money is not a concern among either the dems or RINOs as the gargantuan Pentagon budget increase goes to show.
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  26. Boethiuss says:
    @Thomas
    This is probably Trump's last chance to get the wall and, with it, any chance of reelection in 2020. The odds are that the Democrats will take the House in November. September will be too close to the election for the Republicans to take risks with the budget then. If he goes into the 2020 election and nothing has happened on the wall, it'll be his "read my lips" moment.

    This is probably Trump’s last chance to get the wall and, with it, any chance of reelection in 2020. The odds are that the Democrats will take the House in November. September will be too close to the election for the Republicans to take risks with the budget then. If he goes into the 2020 election and nothing has happened on the wall, it’ll be his “read my lips” moment.

    This could end up working out that way, but it’s a failure on our part if it does.

    Objectively speaking, Trump’s record is better than it needs to be for anybody who is persuadeable to vote Republican. So far, we have low unemployment (and getting lower), positive growth, Gorsuch, ISIS defeated, the possibility of North Korea denuclearization, maybe even meaningful wage growth.

    More importantly, there hasn’t been any significant backsliding on any issue relative to the end of the Obama Administration, and there’s a good chance DACA will be ended as well. The negatives are Charlottesville and Parkland, which in big picture terms, aren’t really that big a deal.

    Given all that, we’re still stuck at 40% approval. The problem is Trump himself, his persona, and the perception of instability that goes with that.

    Trump and his enthusiasts have drunk the Kool-Aid hard about hard the alpha-male symbolism and the perception of toughness. But no matter how strong Trump’s posture or persuasive words are according to the likes of Scott Adams, we’re still losing out.

    To a significant extent, strength in politics comes from the perception of permanence, and Trump clearly doesn’t have it. There’s just no way to do a body-language or linguistic analysis and try to pretend any different. We can all see that there are no legions of Trump loyalists with important jobs in the executive branch (or anywhere else in government, or in the punditocracy). We’re all in a position of waiting for the whole thing to finally fall apart like a 77 Chevelle.

    But you know, there is one thing that is permanent in our political landscape, the Republican Party. The GOP has been around in its current form since before the Civil War. Maybe we should be working helping them out and not worrying about Trump so much, because they are going to be around long after Trump is gone. And we’ll probably be needing them then as well.

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    Maybe we should take Paul Ryan's feelings about our physical safety seriously and campaign as strenuously against the GOP as we did for Trump. A Democratic Congress brings the civil war closer.
    , @Moses

    Maybe we should be working helping them out and not worrying about Trump so much, because they are going to be around long after Trump is gone. And we’ll probably be needing them then as well.
     
    Wait, what?

    The old-style GOP is the enemy just as much as the leftists (perhaps more):
    - They spend, and spend, and spend
    - They love foreign wars
    - They love low skill, low wage immigration which harms Americans on the low end of the skill ladder
    - They sat on their hands while leftists took over our institutions and corrupted our cultural norms
    - They allow the Dems to control them with fake charges of "racist!", frightened of their own shadows
    - The GOP ostensibly controls both houses of Congress, yet we still don't have a wall or immigration reform?

    Please.

    With "friends" like the cuck GOP, who needs enemies?

    , @Mishra
    The Republican Party is as dead as a doornail. You can stick a fork in it.

    Granted many are too stupid to read the writing on the wall, but it's there.
    , @vx37
    That's some classic concern trolling right there. Thanks to demographic changes brought about largely by Republican treason, voting Republican will soon be an exercise in futility, a protest vote, like voting Green or Libertarian. They're not going to always be around, they're circling the drain.
    , @MarkinLA
    The GOP has been around in its current form since before the Civil War. Maybe we should be working helping them out and not worrying about Trump so much, because they are going to be around long after Trump is gone. And we’ll probably be needing them then as well.

    Isn't the goal of the GOP leadership to do nothing and wait Trump out so everything reverts back to normal? I thought the idea was to make the GOP more like Trump. How does reflexively supporting the GOP do that?
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  27. Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:

    For all that’s been said about Trump here, the bottom line is having him as President is still exponentially better than the Hildabeast. The people complaining about Never Trump and not voting to keep a Republican House Majority should think a bit deeper about that. Life is unfortunately often a choice of the lesser of two evils. In this case, it’s not such a hard choice as the difference is still so vast.

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    Be that as it may, there is a vast and growing population that isn't getting anything out of the Trump admin and they aren't interested in the neocon GOP either.

    Ultimately, I think you're going to see incredibly low voter turnout for the right going forward until someone takes the implicitly pro-white messaging and puts some effort into making it policy.

    Yes there are going to be worse consequences for your country, and likely mine too given BDS is now surging in the far left along side minority power, because of this wave of disenchantment, but blame can only truly be laid at the feet of the political right that couldn't find anything at all to deliver.

    What purpose is your GOP if they can't or won't improve the lot of their base in the long term and punish the flagrantly illegal and treasonous behavior of their base's deadly enemies? There is none.

    So calumny all the while with this story of how much worse it would or will be, but the state itself can't survive much more of the left. Let the military enjoy being full of diverse and transgender soldiers while China had the world to themselves. If people with actual power in the American right can't be bothered to find their balls long enough to pass the pittance Trump has spoken of, then surely the average right wing voter can't be expected to support them.
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  28. istevefan says:
    @Lot

    In the final wall compromise, $1.6 billion will be available for physical barriers along the Mexican border, but strings are attached. Most of the funding, officials said, can be used only for repairs or for “secondary” barriers along border stretches where there is already a wall. The rest can be used for 33 miles of new barriers, but there are restrictions on the type: Only levees or existing “bollard” fencing can be built, rather than the concrete prototypes Trump appears to favor.
     
    $1.6 billion is a lot of money. Trump could ignore the restriction on it and simply build more than the 33 miles of new wall by simply ordering the Homeland Security Secretary to do so.

    Courts have no power to enforce such a part of the law because no individual has standing to bring suit. The way to enforce such laws against a president is impeachment. Would Congress really do that for a President who ran on the Wall, got funding for it, and then decided national security required him to ignore a single legal restriction on its placement?

    The whole wall vs bollard fence issue is pretty minor. I've seen it at the San Diego border, nobody is getting over it. Even if Trump does not ignore the restriction on the funding, improving older lower fences up to the highest existing standard is a small victory at least.

    http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/U.S./876/493/APTOPIX%20Border%20Security660.jpg

    For a wall that the democrats say won’t work they seem pretty intent to fight tooth and nail to ensure it is never built. Ditto for the RINOs and the Chamber of Commerce.

    Of course they might say they are not in favor of wasting $20 billion or so on something that won’t work. But we know wasting money is not a concern among either the dems or RINOs as the gargantuan Pentagon budget increase goes to show.

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  29. Dr. X says:
    @The Z Blog
    I think at this point it is safe to say Trump was just a lucky bullshitter. He caught lightning in a bottle and got lucky in having an opponent that was appealing as rectal cancer.

    What I find remarkable about Trump is just how gutless he has been in office. Maybe they do have dirt on him. Or maybe he is a just a clueless loud mouth.

    Maybe they do have dirt on him. Or maybe he is a just a clueless loud mouth.

    I’m inclined to think it’s the latter.

    Of course, it’s possible to get “dirt” on anyone, especially someone with Trump’s sexual history. But dirt is often manufactured, and the significance of it is subject to the interpretation of it that the mainstream media feeds the masses. There was PLENTY of REAL dirt on Hillary with regard to the private e-mail server and the Clinton Foundation, but the media gave it a collective “meh.”

    So I think that Trump was just a lucky bullshitter. I think that his instincts are basically correct, but they’re 25-30 years out of date. He may be right to rail against NAFTA, but that ship sailed in 1992 and the Midwestern white working class has been decimated in the intervening years. Likewise with immigration. The time to build a wall was 1986 — the time of the Reagan amnesty. Now that California’s practically become Northern Mexico, we’re a day late and a dollar short.

    Can Trump actually turn it around? Might be too late.

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    Is the troll Whiskey using little punctuatory doodads to prevent (or delay) people from seeing his overall commenting history?

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    All he needs is the Scot[']s spelling, whisky.
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  31. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Boethiuss

    This is probably Trump’s last chance to get the wall and, with it, any chance of reelection in 2020. The odds are that the Democrats will take the House in November. September will be too close to the election for the Republicans to take risks with the budget then. If he goes into the 2020 election and nothing has happened on the wall, it’ll be his “read my lips” moment.
     
    This could end up working out that way, but it's a failure on our part if it does.

    Objectively speaking, Trump's record is better than it needs to be for anybody who is persuadeable to vote Republican. So far, we have low unemployment (and getting lower), positive growth, Gorsuch, ISIS defeated, the possibility of North Korea denuclearization, maybe even meaningful wage growth.

    More importantly, there hasn't been any significant backsliding on any issue relative to the end of the Obama Administration, and there's a good chance DACA will be ended as well. The negatives are Charlottesville and Parkland, which in big picture terms, aren't really that big a deal.

    Given all that, we're still stuck at 40% approval. The problem is Trump himself, his persona, and the perception of instability that goes with that.

    Trump and his enthusiasts have drunk the Kool-Aid hard about hard the alpha-male symbolism and the perception of toughness. But no matter how strong Trump's posture or persuasive words are according to the likes of Scott Adams, we're still losing out.

    To a significant extent, strength in politics comes from the perception of permanence, and Trump clearly doesn't have it. There's just no way to do a body-language or linguistic analysis and try to pretend any different. We can all see that there are no legions of Trump loyalists with important jobs in the executive branch (or anywhere else in government, or in the punditocracy). We're all in a position of waiting for the whole thing to finally fall apart like a 77 Chevelle.

    But you know, there is one thing that is permanent in our political landscape, the Republican Party. The GOP has been around in its current form since before the Civil War. Maybe we should be working helping them out and not worrying about Trump so much, because they are going to be around long after Trump is gone. And we'll probably be needing them then as well.

    Maybe we should take Paul Ryan’s feelings about our physical safety seriously and campaign as strenuously against the GOP as we did for Trump. A Democratic Congress brings the civil war closer.

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    Maybe we should take Paul Ryan’s feelings about our physical safety seriously and campaign as strenuously against the GOP as we did for Trump. A Democratic Congress brings the civil war closer.
     
    Are you like, a person or one of Zuckerberg's troll bots? And who's we, kemosabe?

    I'm talking about the political interests of American citizens which have been represented by the Republican Party since before our grandparents were born up through today. It's anybody's guess what you're talking about.
    , @Anonymous

    The GOP has been around in its current form since before the Civil War. Maybe we should be working helping them out and not worrying about Trump so much, because they are going to be around long after Trump is gone. And we’ll probably be needing them then as well.
     
    Rule Number One: Don't give your vote away. Extract a price for it.

    The GOP replaced the Whig Party, and it in turn could be replaced too.

    Because of our electoral system, there will always be a tendency towards a two party system, but those parties are not codified in the Constitution. If either the Dems or the GOP become "largely irrelevant" in actual fact, they will almost instantly be replaced and either cease to exist or become like the current third parties, i.e., the greens, libtys, et al.

    The machinery is not precious. It's a tool and it can be built as needed, with some effort, but not a Herculean one.

    Don't vote for cucks. Period. No matter how bad the alternative.

    Make the ostensible Right earn the vote or lose their seats. If the GOP insists on running cucks, vote third party, write in someone or don't cast a ballot in that particular race. (You do not have to vote in every race on the ballot.) Vote in the primary, and let the cucks know when they get the nomination that you are withholding the unction of your vote. And why.

    Little Miss Muffett famously stated that she would have gotten it on with Iggy Pop (who she correctly states in her book is enormously todgerly) but didn't because of her strict vegetarianism-"I don't f*** meat eaters". I take my beliefs as seriously as she takes hers. I don't vote for cucks.
    , @27 year old

    A Democratic Congress brings the civil war closer.
     
    "The Civil War" (tm) is already happening.

    Not sure why you think it's a good thing either. Why do you want to escalate a war we're already losing? It's not going to go the way you think it is.

    We have a lot of hardware and we have a lot of privates (even more generals, in their own minds at least) but we have no leadership.

    Who are the squad leaders, lieutenants and colonels of the White team? Who exists that you, personally, would follow into combat?

    Meanwhile there's an antifa in every major city who in 5 minutes of texting can come up with several guys that will all take a bat to your head in broad daylight. And the blacks who don't have to text message, they can just walk down to the corner and come up with soldiers who have killed before and will happily do it again.

    And the enemy has massive representation in the government, police force leadership, media, judges, etc etc etc.

    Every single GOP-er would condemn a White paramilitary group. Every single one. Zero institutional support.

    Robert E Lee was in charge of the US military academy before he went with Virginia. The CSA leadership were all US Army officers before secession.

    George Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, etc etc, were among the richest and most powerful men in the colonies before they started their revolution.

    Do you get the point yet?
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  32. Anonymous[527] • Disclaimer says:
    @IHTG
    https://twitter.com/costareports/status/976523186094342149

    Trump should take a page from Obama and Executive Order his way to the wall. Its pretty clear the elites are just not going to play fair and let the American people have what they voted for (much like the British elites are reneging on Brexit). So why play by their rules any longer? Another option, order the National Guard to build it. They’re supposed to protect the borders after all.

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    " Another option, order the National Guard to build it. They’re supposed to protect the borders after all."

    The Army Corps of Engineers has been my choice all along.
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  33. Moses says:
    @WLW
    I hope this isn't true. What is with the Republican party? Both McConnel and Paul Ryan need to go. I want the wall. Schumer gets his tunnel and we get zilch???? The Republican Party is the party of losers, turncoats and idiots. The only man that has it right is President Donald J. Trump. We need the wall. The Republican Party is the Sick party. Trump is winning---and all the majority of Repukes can do is stab him in the back. It is sick.

    The Republican Party is the party of losers, turncoats and idiots.

    And cucks. Don’t forget cucks.

    They lose, and lose, and lose. And yield while our cultural norms and institutions are taken over by leftists.

    But, gosh darn it, they have principles!

    Cuck “republicans” are worse than Antifa. Treasonous.

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  34. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Whiskey_
    There isn't going to be a wall. It's looking likely that Republicans will lose the House and Trump could very well be impeached before the end of the year. Muller's been hiring people specialising in investigating the Russian mob and investigating money laundering which is the direction the investigation will go now due to Trump's connections with the Russian mob. It's why Trump was so desperate to get rid of McCabe - his history investigating the Russian mob meant he was already very well known to Trump. He's petrified at the moment as he knows his time is up and the Trump crime family is going down.

    That’s not me.

    Yeah looks like Blue Wave and impeachment four being a straight White Male unashamed of being one. But that’s politics.

    Chucky Schemer is noir some super genius. He just knows what he fights for and Trump never meant to build a wall. It was just bait.

    Time for politics is over. We need our own ADL and SPLC. Lawfare.

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  35. Moses says:
    @Boethiuss

    This is probably Trump’s last chance to get the wall and, with it, any chance of reelection in 2020. The odds are that the Democrats will take the House in November. September will be too close to the election for the Republicans to take risks with the budget then. If he goes into the 2020 election and nothing has happened on the wall, it’ll be his “read my lips” moment.
     
    This could end up working out that way, but it's a failure on our part if it does.

    Objectively speaking, Trump's record is better than it needs to be for anybody who is persuadeable to vote Republican. So far, we have low unemployment (and getting lower), positive growth, Gorsuch, ISIS defeated, the possibility of North Korea denuclearization, maybe even meaningful wage growth.

    More importantly, there hasn't been any significant backsliding on any issue relative to the end of the Obama Administration, and there's a good chance DACA will be ended as well. The negatives are Charlottesville and Parkland, which in big picture terms, aren't really that big a deal.

    Given all that, we're still stuck at 40% approval. The problem is Trump himself, his persona, and the perception of instability that goes with that.

    Trump and his enthusiasts have drunk the Kool-Aid hard about hard the alpha-male symbolism and the perception of toughness. But no matter how strong Trump's posture or persuasive words are according to the likes of Scott Adams, we're still losing out.

    To a significant extent, strength in politics comes from the perception of permanence, and Trump clearly doesn't have it. There's just no way to do a body-language or linguistic analysis and try to pretend any different. We can all see that there are no legions of Trump loyalists with important jobs in the executive branch (or anywhere else in government, or in the punditocracy). We're all in a position of waiting for the whole thing to finally fall apart like a 77 Chevelle.

    But you know, there is one thing that is permanent in our political landscape, the Republican Party. The GOP has been around in its current form since before the Civil War. Maybe we should be working helping them out and not worrying about Trump so much, because they are going to be around long after Trump is gone. And we'll probably be needing them then as well.

    Maybe we should be working helping them out and not worrying about Trump so much, because they are going to be around long after Trump is gone. And we’ll probably be needing them then as well.

    Wait, what?

    The old-style GOP is the enemy just as much as the leftists (perhaps more):
    - They spend, and spend, and spend
    - They love foreign wars
    - They love low skill, low wage immigration which harms Americans on the low end of the skill ladder
    - They sat on their hands while leftists took over our institutions and corrupted our cultural norms
    - They allow the Dems to control them with fake charges of “racist!”, frightened of their own shadows
    - The GOP ostensibly controls both houses of Congress, yet we still don’t have a wall or immigration reform?

    Please.

    With “friends” like the cuck GOP, who needs enemies?

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    There’s no way forward for nationalists so long as the Repub Party exists.
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  36. Berty says:
    @Thomas
    I'd say so, unless he finds the balls to veto. He's been whining for a few weeks now on Twitter that nobody wants to make a "deal" with him over DACA. Looks weak everywhere these days: immigration, guns, Mueller, leaks.

    Trump’s stupidity and incompetence and lack of deal making skills and lack of self-discipline is what has torpedoed his agenda. He has good ideas about immigration and trade but if he has no ability to make them a reality than it doesn’t matter.

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    Trump knows how to make "deals" in the business world where both sides want a deal. That is part of his problem. He thinks that what was wrong with Washington was that people just didn't know how to make deals. Trump stupidly thought that he would come up with a deal that gave everybody something and everybody would jump at it. He didn't realize that the people who voted him in are sick of "deals" where the donors get what they want and the voters get screwed again. That game of self-negating clauses stuck into bills that make sure only one side wins is why there is no support for deals in Trump's constituency.

    He has never had to twist a few balls to get what he wants and that is what he needs to do. He has more power than he realizes but he won't lead. He needs to push GOP Congressmen to make things happen on the floor of Congress but he won't. As I continue to harp on - the individual components of immigration reform like ending the visa lottery are far more popular with the voters than comprehensive immigration reform, yet there is no attempt to get a vote on that single issue and make politicians take a stand on that.

    The reason Congress wants comprehensive immigration reform is because it gives amnesty a better chance of sneaking through and every voter knows it.
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  37. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Whiskey•
    There is no doubt that Donald Trump has been acting as an agent of Russian intelligence for many years, starting long before he ran for President. In multiple ways, he has acted in support of Russian foreign policy to the detriment of the United States. Trump's moves to deepen the divisions within the American public and undermine our foreign policy by alienating US allies and advancing Russian strategic aims are far more serious crimes than his campaign's collusion with the Russians.
    There is a prima facie case for collusion between the Trump campaign and the government of Russia, as Robert Mueller has no doubt discovered. What's unknown at this point is whether Donald Trump was actively aware of the collusion, although it seems impossible to believe that he wasn't.
    Trump's crimes involving Russia long predate his run for the White House. Through his real estate activities, he has laundered tens of millions of dollars, and maybe much more, for Russian gangsters and the Russian-government-allied superrich called "oligarchs." It appears likely that Russian money has bailed Trump out on more than one occasion.
    Hillary Clinton lost the Presidency for many reasons, not the least of them her own poorly run campaign, Republican vote suppression, and the vicious 25-year-crusade conducted against her by the Right. However, despite these factors, it's entirely possible that she would have won anyway had it not been for Russian intervention. Remember: she won the popular vote, only losing a few key states by a margin in the tens of thousands of votes.
    It appears that Donald Trump is vulnerable to blackmail by Vladimir Putin both because of his illegal financial activities and because of sexual misconduct caught on film or videotape by Russian intelligence. Admittedly, the allegations in the Steele Dossier about sexual perversion have not been proven. They may never be. However, given Trump's contemptuous behavior toward women and the enduring practices of Russian intelligence to bug the hotel rooms of prominent visitors, these charges seem all too credible. In any case, the Putin regime has reportedly opted not to release the damaging evidence it possesses about Trump's misbehavior—probably for reasons that are now abundantly obvious.

    Oh please would you stop the cowardly appropriating my pseudonym.

    Its cowardly.

    Trump is a weak cuck. Collusion with Putin? What over bombing ng Syriua, tracking like crazy driving the oil price down and tearing upo the Iran nuke deal?

    Trump is a duck noir a traitor. For that look too Barak or the Clinton’s. Charlie Trie?

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    I didn't want to say this (sorry by the way for confusing you with this guy) but this is a serious blog administrative matter. The tone, wording, length of post, etc of the troll misusing the name "Whiskey" looks an awful lot like "The Z Blog," which, now that I type this, I seem to remember is, like Whiskey, a completely different guy who has had his name stolen, by a troll who is also sockpuppeting.
    So in brief
    >attempt to defeat local guarantors of uniqueness (not X but X_, X*, etc).
    >sock puppetry ("gosh this J.Ross guy is good, you should really listen to him").
    and most importantly
    >STEALING AN ESTABLISHED COMMENTATOR'S NAME, which is a pretty serious thing (Whiskey and The Z Blog are registered and accepted people with different views than this creep).
    By the way VDare has recently been DDOS'd.
    , @Mishra

    Oh please would you stop the cowardly appropriating my pseudonym.
     
    I don't know why Steve is permitting this. Same with "The Z Blog•"
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  38. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Whiskey•
    There is no doubt that Donald Trump has been acting as an agent of Russian intelligence for many years, starting long before he ran for President. In multiple ways, he has acted in support of Russian foreign policy to the detriment of the United States. Trump's moves to deepen the divisions within the American public and undermine our foreign policy by alienating US allies and advancing Russian strategic aims are far more serious crimes than his campaign's collusion with the Russians.
    There is a prima facie case for collusion between the Trump campaign and the government of Russia, as Robert Mueller has no doubt discovered. What's unknown at this point is whether Donald Trump was actively aware of the collusion, although it seems impossible to believe that he wasn't.
    Trump's crimes involving Russia long predate his run for the White House. Through his real estate activities, he has laundered tens of millions of dollars, and maybe much more, for Russian gangsters and the Russian-government-allied superrich called "oligarchs." It appears likely that Russian money has bailed Trump out on more than one occasion.
    Hillary Clinton lost the Presidency for many reasons, not the least of them her own poorly run campaign, Republican vote suppression, and the vicious 25-year-crusade conducted against her by the Right. However, despite these factors, it's entirely possible that she would have won anyway had it not been for Russian intervention. Remember: she won the popular vote, only losing a few key states by a margin in the tens of thousands of votes.
    It appears that Donald Trump is vulnerable to blackmail by Vladimir Putin both because of his illegal financial activities and because of sexual misconduct caught on film or videotape by Russian intelligence. Admittedly, the allegations in the Steele Dossier about sexual perversion have not been proven. They may never be. However, given Trump's contemptuous behavior toward women and the enduring practices of Russian intelligence to bug the hotel rooms of prominent visitors, these charges seem all too credible. In any case, the Putin regime has reportedly opted not to release the damaging evidence it possesses about Trump's misbehavior—probably for reasons that are now abundantly obvious.

    The beast won the popular vote by winning CA by 40%. Since every illegal voted early and often.

    I prefer Americans picking Presidents to Mexicans. And pick your oiwn damn name coiward.

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    The beast won the popular vote by winning CA by 40%.
     
    That and 50 cents will get her a cup of coffee.
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  39. @Utah Conservative
    100% spot on post.

    #NeverTrump

    100% spot on post. #NeverTrump

    Evan MacMuffin, I had no idea you post here. Your service as a cucker has been well noted. What would America do without you?

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  40. @The Z Blog
    I think at this point it is safe to say Trump was just a lucky bullshitter. He caught lightning in a bottle and got lucky in having an opponent that was appealing as rectal cancer.

    What I find remarkable about Trump is just how gutless he has been in office. Maybe they do have dirt on him. Or maybe he is a just a clueless loud mouth.

    So why aren’t you President of the United States? No luck? Or do you suppose you are not a bullshitter?

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  41. @Neoconned
    https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/exclusive-fired-fbi-official-authorized-criminal-probe-sessions/story%3fid=53914006#ampshare=http://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-fired-fbi-official-authorized-criminal-probe-sessions/story?id%3D53914006

    Are Andrew McCabe and Jim Comey certifiably insane?

    McCabe launched a felony investigation into his boss without going to Congress.

    Sedition charges come to mind....in another era they could have been hanged for this for treason....this is bordering on an attempted coup of a dually elected pesidency..... McCabe should count his stars he's not in shackles.

    this is bordering on an attempted coup of a duly elected presidency….. McCabe should count his stars he’s not in shackles.

    Agree.

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  42. istevefan says:

    Trump just tweeted this:

    Got $1.6 Billion to start Wall on Southern Border, rest will be forthcoming. Most importantly, got $700 Billion to rebuild our Military, $716 Billion next year…most ever. Had to waste money on Dem giveaways in order to take care of military pay increase and new equipment.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 22, 2018

    Personally $1.6 billion is chump change when the military gets $700 billion. I gladly cut $20 billion off that budget to fully fund the wall.

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    Agreed. But the military thing just keeps selling, doesn't it.
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  43. istevefan says:
    @Whiskey
    The beast won the popular vote by winning CA by 40%. Since every illegal voted early and often.

    I prefer Americans picking Presidents to Mexicans. And pick your oiwn damn name coiward.

    The beast won the popular vote by winning CA by 40%.

    That and 50 cents will get her a cup of coffee.

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  44. Thomas says:

    Latest: Trump touting his One Billion Dollars! for the wall:

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    Personally $1.6 billion is chump change when the military gets $700 billion. I would gladly cut $20 billion off that budget to fully fund the wall.

    PS. How did you get the Trump tweet to show up as a real tweet? I tried doing it,but when it published it reverted to text. I even copied the code from twitter's "embed this tweet" feature. Can you let me know how you got your comment to keep its twitter formatting?

    , @Berty
    To him everything bad is always someone else's fault.
    , @Thulean Friend

    Got $1.6 Billion to start Wall on Southern Border
     
    Actually, according to The Hill, the funding is not for the wall, but rather for the already-existing fenced areas. So he can't use that money to build any new sections for a real wall. It is just (minimal) upkeep money for the weakest areas of the border.

    I always thought Trump was going to be the national version of Governor Pete Wilson(last GOP gov of California before it went perma-blue). However, at least Pete Wilson got some decent legislation. Trump has only gotten massive tax cuts (unfunded) and massive hikes in military spending. With neocons now running foreign policy, it is essentially Bush III.

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  45. istevefan says:
    @Thomas
    Latest: Trump touting his One Billion Dollars! for the wall:

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/976654851684945920

    Personally $1.6 billion is chump change when the military gets $700 billion. I would gladly cut $20 billion off that budget to fully fund the wall.

    PS. How did you get the Trump tweet to show up as a real tweet? I tried doing it,but when it published it reverted to text. I even copied the code from twitter’s “embed this tweet” feature. Can you let me know how you got your comment to keep its twitter formatting?

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    Personally $1.6 billion is chump change when the military gets $700 billion. I would gladly cut $20 billion off that budget to fully fund the wall.
     
    $1.6 billion is what the Gang of Six was offering two months ago (granted that was for DACA plus a bunch more refugee visas). So the author of The Art of the Deal went in 2 months from getting $1.6 billion to... $1.6 billion. Given how far federal spending goes, that should be enough to put a fresh coat of paint on all border checkpoints and to upgrade the restrooms to transgender compliance.

    PS. How did you get the Trump tweet to show up as a real tweet?
     
    Nothing special. "Copy link to tweet," paste it into the body of the text box. The blogging software handles the rest.
    , @J.Ross
    Post non-mobile, non-abbreviated, old-fashioned url detached from anything else.
    https://www.twitter dot c o m /NotRacistWhen/status/976658070867718145
    becomes
    https://www.twitter.com/NotRacistWhen/status/976658070867718145

    https://www.youtube dot c o m /watch?v=n38R1JTEAPo
    becomes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n38R1JTEAPo
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  46. Berty says:
    @Thomas
    Latest: Trump touting his One Billion Dollars! for the wall:

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/976654851684945920

    To him everything bad is always someone else’s fault.

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    To him everything bad is always someone else’s fault.
     
    Unfortunately for him, and many down ticket Republicans, that's not the way voters assign blame. The 2018 elections will be a disaster for the GOP. And if the Democrats get a majority in the Senate as well as the House, Trump will not finish out his term. Senate Republicans will, and rightly so, see a loss of their Senate majority in the fall as a disaster, and a complete repudiation of Trump by the voters. They will vote with the Democrats to evict Trump from the Oval Office, so someone competent and less temperamental can become the GOP standard bearer.
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  47. Berty says:

    I wish John Kelly was president.

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  48. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Whiskey
    Oh please would you stop the cowardly appropriating my pseudonym.

    Its cowardly.

    Trump is a weak cuck. Collusion with Putin? What over bombing ng Syriua, tracking like crazy driving the oil price down and tearing upo the Iran nuke deal?

    Trump is a duck noir a traitor. For that look too Barak or the Clinton's. Charlie Trie?

    I didn’t want to say this (sorry by the way for confusing you with this guy) but this is a serious blog administrative matter. The tone, wording, length of post, etc of the troll misusing the name “Whiskey” looks an awful lot like “The Z Blog,” which, now that I type this, I seem to remember is, like Whiskey, a completely different guy who has had his name stolen, by a troll who is also sockpuppeting.
    So in brief
    >attempt to defeat local guarantors of uniqueness (not X but X_, X*, etc).
    >sock puppetry (“gosh this J.Ross guy is good, you should really listen to him”).
    and most importantly
    >STEALING AN ESTABLISHED COMMENTATOR’S NAME, which is a pretty serious thing (Whiskey and The Z Blog are registered and accepted people with different views than this creep).
    By the way VDare has recently been DDOS’d.

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  49. Thomas says:
    @istevefan
    Personally $1.6 billion is chump change when the military gets $700 billion. I would gladly cut $20 billion off that budget to fully fund the wall.

    PS. How did you get the Trump tweet to show up as a real tweet? I tried doing it,but when it published it reverted to text. I even copied the code from twitter's "embed this tweet" feature. Can you let me know how you got your comment to keep its twitter formatting?

    Personally $1.6 billion is chump change when the military gets $700 billion. I would gladly cut $20 billion off that budget to fully fund the wall.

    $1.6 billion is what the Gang of Six was offering two months ago (granted that was for DACA plus a bunch more refugee visas). So the author of The Art of the Deal went in 2 months from getting $1.6 billion to… $1.6 billion. Given how far federal spending goes, that should be enough to put a fresh coat of paint on all border checkpoints and to upgrade the restrooms to transgender compliance.

    PS. How did you get the Trump tweet to show up as a real tweet?

    Nothing special. “Copy link to tweet,” paste it into the body of the text box. The blogging software handles the rest.

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  50. J.Ross says: • Website
    @istevefan
    Personally $1.6 billion is chump change when the military gets $700 billion. I would gladly cut $20 billion off that budget to fully fund the wall.

    PS. How did you get the Trump tweet to show up as a real tweet? I tried doing it,but when it published it reverted to text. I even copied the code from twitter's "embed this tweet" feature. Can you let me know how you got your comment to keep its twitter formatting?

    Post non-mobile, non-abbreviated, old-fashioned url detached from anything else.
    https://www.twitter dot c o m /NotRacistWhen/status/976658070867718145
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  51. All you Trump bashers, I’d like to see you get funding for a wall when 85% of Congress is against you. Tell me what persuasion skills you’d bring to the table to get this done.

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    There is no doubt he is being opposed by both sides. But he does have the ability to be creative. For example, he could use the military to help patrol the border. And he could step up workplace enforcement. I think he really wants the wall and knows the base does too.

    Part of the problem is that people on our side are not really doing anything to help out. We voted in November 2016. Some of us even contributed money. Some went to rallies. But outside of that are we really doing anything to help out? The other side can get people in the streets and organize boycotts all at the drop of a hat. We can't or won't.
    , @Berty
    The GOPe doesn't force Trump to make himself look stupid on Twitter, say moronic things in public (like his disastrous gun control ramblings) or prevent him from learning the legislative process himself. That's all on him.
    , @MarkinLA
    Why persuade anybody? Put the Army Corp of Engineers in charge of building the wall given that he has the power under the Constitution to defend the borders. If some court issues and injunction, ignore it.
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  52. Issac says:
    @Anonymous
    For all that's been said about Trump here, the bottom line is having him as President is still exponentially better than the Hildabeast. The people complaining about Never Trump and not voting to keep a Republican House Majority should think a bit deeper about that. Life is unfortunately often a choice of the lesser of two evils. In this case, it's not such a hard choice as the difference is still so vast.

    Be that as it may, there is a vast and growing population that isn’t getting anything out of the Trump admin and they aren’t interested in the neocon GOP either.

    Ultimately, I think you’re going to see incredibly low voter turnout for the right going forward until someone takes the implicitly pro-white messaging and puts some effort into making it policy.

    Yes there are going to be worse consequences for your country, and likely mine too given BDS is now surging in the far left along side minority power, because of this wave of disenchantment, but blame can only truly be laid at the feet of the political right that couldn’t find anything at all to deliver.

    What purpose is your GOP if they can’t or won’t improve the lot of their base in the long term and punish the flagrantly illegal and treasonous behavior of their base’s deadly enemies? There is none.

    So calumny all the while with this story of how much worse it would or will be, but the state itself can’t survive much more of the left. Let the military enjoy being full of diverse and transgender soldiers while China had the world to themselves. If people with actual power in the American right can’t be bothered to find their balls long enough to pass the pittance Trump has spoken of, then surely the average right wing voter can’t be expected to support them.

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    What purpose is your GOP if they can’t or won’t improve the lot of their base in the long term and punish the flagrantly illegal and treasonous behavior of their base’s deadly enemies? There is none.
     
    I don't know how many Americans think this way. There may be a lot, but even if it's just a few it's a serious problem nonetheless. For those people to whom it applies, they are in woeful denial woeful denial about what elections are supposed to mean.

    For example, there's polls that supposedly show that 60-80-whatever percent of Americans favor normalizing the DACA participants. That doesn't mean that is going to happen necessarily, but it does factor in the minds of our elected officials, no matter who they are or which party won the last election.

    If we can't be bothered to stay loyal to our shared citizenship as Americans, we're going to get Darwined out of existence, and we'll deserve it.
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  53. @Thomas
    Latest: Trump touting his One Billion Dollars! for the wall:

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/976654851684945920

    Got $1.6 Billion to start Wall on Southern Border

    Actually, according to The Hill, the funding is not for the wall, but rather for the already-existing fenced areas. So he can’t use that money to build any new sections for a real wall. It is just (minimal) upkeep money for the weakest areas of the border.

    I always thought Trump was going to be the national version of Governor Pete Wilson(last GOP gov of California before it went perma-blue). However, at least Pete Wilson got some decent legislation. Trump has only gotten massive tax cuts (unfunded) and massive hikes in military spending. With neocons now running foreign policy, it is essentially Bush III.

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  54. Anonymous[545] • Disclaimer says:

    700 billion for the world police! Chump change for the wall (wall is also his opioid crisis promise).

    Trump is a world class promoter/sales guy.

    He’s not a great negotiator.

    His political credo always was “Say anything to get elected”…

    His White House is all dems, bushies and neocons except for Litehizer trade guy.

    The nepotism is unforgivable …and secret China loans to bail out the disgusting Kushner Krime Klan is maybe why Trump is checkmated on so many issues.

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  55. istevefan says:
    @Bragadocious
    All you Trump bashers, I'd like to see you get funding for a wall when 85% of Congress is against you. Tell me what persuasion skills you'd bring to the table to get this done.

    There is no doubt he is being opposed by both sides. But he does have the ability to be creative. For example, he could use the military to help patrol the border. And he could step up workplace enforcement. I think he really wants the wall and knows the base does too.

    Part of the problem is that people on our side are not really doing anything to help out. We voted in November 2016. Some of us even contributed money. Some went to rallies. But outside of that are we really doing anything to help out? The other side can get people in the streets and organize boycotts all at the drop of a hat. We can’t or won’t.

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    Your criticisms are valid, but tell me how you'd get the ball rolling? What platforms do you know of where such a message would be permitted to reach millions? Shadow-banning would be the absolute best you could hope for. Even VDARE is being attacked around the clock now.
    , @snorlax

    For example, he could use the military to help patrol the border.
     
    The Posse Comitatus Act forbids this.

    And he could step up workplace enforcement.
     
    He is. The problem is there aren’t nearly enough (and Dems+cucks are fighting tooth and nail to block funding for any more) ICE agents and immigration judges; I saw the other day that the backlog of existing(!) removal cases is something like 200 years.
    , @Bragadocious
    The problem of course is that most Trump voters have these things called "jobs" which means we can't be out in the public square on a Tuesday afternoon. Unlike the opposition, which is largely jobless and can be bought off for a $50 per diem to hold placards, scream and throw things.

    Best thing we can do is let Trump be Trump. And get better GOP candidates into Congress. With apologies to Ann Coulter, 1000 mile walls don't get built in a year.
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  56. Mishra says:
    @TomSchmidt
    From the Kaus link: Ryan’s business-first wing of the GOP traded those immigration issues to win many gains for themselves, including a massive $78 billion increase in defense spending, and a huge $52 billion increase in domestic spending.

    What, precisely, are we "defending?" Nothing, it would seem.

    What, precisely, are we “defending?”

    We’re defending our right to be invaded by the Third World.

    Nothing, it would seem.

    Pretty much. Hope your corner of the handbasket is comfy.

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  57. Mishra says:
    @Boethiuss

    This is probably Trump’s last chance to get the wall and, with it, any chance of reelection in 2020. The odds are that the Democrats will take the House in November. September will be too close to the election for the Republicans to take risks with the budget then. If he goes into the 2020 election and nothing has happened on the wall, it’ll be his “read my lips” moment.
     
    This could end up working out that way, but it's a failure on our part if it does.

    Objectively speaking, Trump's record is better than it needs to be for anybody who is persuadeable to vote Republican. So far, we have low unemployment (and getting lower), positive growth, Gorsuch, ISIS defeated, the possibility of North Korea denuclearization, maybe even meaningful wage growth.

    More importantly, there hasn't been any significant backsliding on any issue relative to the end of the Obama Administration, and there's a good chance DACA will be ended as well. The negatives are Charlottesville and Parkland, which in big picture terms, aren't really that big a deal.

    Given all that, we're still stuck at 40% approval. The problem is Trump himself, his persona, and the perception of instability that goes with that.

    Trump and his enthusiasts have drunk the Kool-Aid hard about hard the alpha-male symbolism and the perception of toughness. But no matter how strong Trump's posture or persuasive words are according to the likes of Scott Adams, we're still losing out.

    To a significant extent, strength in politics comes from the perception of permanence, and Trump clearly doesn't have it. There's just no way to do a body-language or linguistic analysis and try to pretend any different. We can all see that there are no legions of Trump loyalists with important jobs in the executive branch (or anywhere else in government, or in the punditocracy). We're all in a position of waiting for the whole thing to finally fall apart like a 77 Chevelle.

    But you know, there is one thing that is permanent in our political landscape, the Republican Party. The GOP has been around in its current form since before the Civil War. Maybe we should be working helping them out and not worrying about Trump so much, because they are going to be around long after Trump is gone. And we'll probably be needing them then as well.

    The Republican Party is as dead as a doornail. You can stick a fork in it.

    Granted many are too stupid to read the writing on the wall, but it’s there.

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    The Republican Party is as dead as a doornail. You can stick a fork in it.</blockquo

    Wtf is this? Can you read a newspaper on the day it publishes election returns, or pay attention to who's in Congress, or the White House?
     

     
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  58. Mishra says:
    @Whiskey
    Oh please would you stop the cowardly appropriating my pseudonym.

    Its cowardly.

    Trump is a weak cuck. Collusion with Putin? What over bombing ng Syriua, tracking like crazy driving the oil price down and tearing upo the Iran nuke deal?

    Trump is a duck noir a traitor. For that look too Barak or the Clinton's. Charlie Trie?

    Oh please would you stop the cowardly appropriating my pseudonym.

    I don’t know why Steve is permitting this. Same with “The Z Blog•”

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  59. Mishra says:
    @istevefan
    Trump just tweeted this:

    Got $1.6 Billion to start Wall on Southern Border, rest will be forthcoming. Most importantly, got $700 Billion to rebuild our Military, $716 Billion next year...most ever. Had to waste money on Dem giveaways in order to take care of military pay increase and new equipment.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 22, 2018
     
    Personally $1.6 billion is chump change when the military gets $700 billion. I gladly cut $20 billion off that budget to fully fund the wall.

    Agreed. But the military thing just keeps selling, doesn’t it.

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  60. Mishra says:
    @istevefan
    There is no doubt he is being opposed by both sides. But he does have the ability to be creative. For example, he could use the military to help patrol the border. And he could step up workplace enforcement. I think he really wants the wall and knows the base does too.

    Part of the problem is that people on our side are not really doing anything to help out. We voted in November 2016. Some of us even contributed money. Some went to rallies. But outside of that are we really doing anything to help out? The other side can get people in the streets and organize boycotts all at the drop of a hat. We can't or won't.

    Your criticisms are valid, but tell me how you’d get the ball rolling? What platforms do you know of where such a message would be permitted to reach millions? Shadow-banning would be the absolute best you could hope for. Even VDARE is being attacked around the clock now.

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    It's tough for people on our side to organize because we are more into individualism and we often don't live in large congregations. The other side lives to organize and lives in highly concentrated areas. Just look at the red/blue county map of the presidential election. Getting them to turn out for a protest is not difficult as thousands of them can wake up and walk to the protest. For us such a protest often involves traveling long distances to unfamiliar areas requiring overnight stays.

    Another thing might be to join the GOP and attempt to take control of the party at the local level. Some of the Ron Paul supporters tried this in 2008 and had some success. But still most of us won't do this. I am just as guilty on this one.

    As far as online is concerned, it would be nice if we could organize boycotts of certain companies. But many on our side don't believe in boycotts. I've always felt that if 10 to 20 million people took one Christmas off and did not buy presents, they'd crater the markets and maybe cause companies pause before they fall for the next SJW fad. But I don't think that will happen.

    At least Trump is helping to get people talking. I know that I am publicly discussing stuff that we cover on iSteve with friends and neighbors who probably wouldn't have been as receptive to these ideas pre-Trump.

    But back to my original comment. Trump has his hands full with the swamp and most of us, I included, have really done nothing since the election to help out. We thought all we had to do was vote. But the swamp is still trying to invalidate the election results with this Russia nonsense on one hand, while actively sabotaging the agenda with the other. And so far they have not had to pay a price for doing so. Clearly there are more than enough people on our side to make them pay a price. But it's just not happening yet.

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  61. Berty says:
    @Bragadocious
    All you Trump bashers, I'd like to see you get funding for a wall when 85% of Congress is against you. Tell me what persuasion skills you'd bring to the table to get this done.

    The GOPe doesn’t force Trump to make himself look stupid on Twitter, say moronic things in public (like his disastrous gun control ramblings) or prevent him from learning the legislative process himself. That’s all on him.

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    Yeah, that Twittering . You guys need to stop obsessing about his tweets. If you don't like them, don't read them. Personally, I love tweets like this.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/976765417908776963
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    Better and better still…

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  63. istevefan says:
    @Mishra
    Your criticisms are valid, but tell me how you'd get the ball rolling? What platforms do you know of where such a message would be permitted to reach millions? Shadow-banning would be the absolute best you could hope for. Even VDARE is being attacked around the clock now.

    It’s tough for people on our side to organize because we are more into individualism and we often don’t live in large congregations. The other side lives to organize and lives in highly concentrated areas. Just look at the red/blue county map of the presidential election. Getting them to turn out for a protest is not difficult as thousands of them can wake up and walk to the protest. For us such a protest often involves traveling long distances to unfamiliar areas requiring overnight stays.

    Another thing might be to join the GOP and attempt to take control of the party at the local level. Some of the Ron Paul supporters tried this in 2008 and had some success. But still most of us won’t do this. I am just as guilty on this one.

    As far as online is concerned, it would be nice if we could organize boycotts of certain companies. But many on our side don’t believe in boycotts. I’ve always felt that if 10 to 20 million people took one Christmas off and did not buy presents, they’d crater the markets and maybe cause companies pause before they fall for the next SJW fad. But I don’t think that will happen.

    At least Trump is helping to get people talking. I know that I am publicly discussing stuff that we cover on iSteve with friends and neighbors who probably wouldn’t have been as receptive to these ideas pre-Trump.

    But back to my original comment. Trump has his hands full with the swamp and most of us, I included, have really done nothing since the election to help out. We thought all we had to do was vote. But the swamp is still trying to invalidate the election results with this Russia nonsense on one hand, while actively sabotaging the agenda with the other. And so far they have not had to pay a price for doing so. Clearly there are more than enough people on our side to make them pay a price. But it’s just not happening yet.

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  64. grapesoda says:

    > Trump is a duck noir

    Trump is Tiny Duck? The Duck Terrible? lol

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  65. Anonymous[237] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Z Blog•
    Trump is a one-termer for sure, and good riddance. Trump had a well documented and admitted years long friendship with Jeffrey Epstein DURING the period that Epstein was pimping out underage girls. One of the girls was approached by Maxwell (daughter of Bob Maxwell - the press baron in the 80s who worked frequently with the Mossad and also Epstein's girlfriend at the time) at Trump's resort in Mar-a-Lago. Of course one of the girls who came forward has alleged that Trump raped her. Trump also talked about how Epstein liked "his social life" and that he likes "beautiful women as much as I do, many of them are on the younger side".

    Trump's mentor Roy Cohn was a gay man (died of AIDS) and is alleged to have ran some seriously seedy parties. Trump's decades long acquaintance and fellow Cohn mentor Roger Stone has been quoted has saying that Cohn always had "young blond boys" around him for sexual use.

    Trump went to a Vegas club (with a few of the characters involved in the meetings in Trump tower on June 9th 2016) that is notorious for stimulated bestiality, sadomasochism and golden showers performances.

    Trump allegedly paid a ex-pornstar $130k to keep quiet about a sexual encounter that would have occurred when Melania was pregnant with Barron.

    There is a pattern of behaviour there that makes it more likely that at least one of these sexual assault accusations is actually true. This is also leaving out some of the smaller stuff (Access Hollywood Tapes and other statements) and other less concrete things (Cohn's potentially a sexual blackmailer / Steele Dossier).

    It's hard for any straight thinking person to look at the evidence regarding Trump's history and not see him as a seriously dodgy character. That's also without the long term Russian mafia links and coincidences that keep on being uncovered.

    Trump likes p***y, and he likes to hang out with people who have a lot of money to spend.

    That doesn’t mean he is a rapist, pederast or pedophile. He likes grown adult women capable of consent, and he has a history of going after the top quality stuff. Successfully. He doesn’t need to impose himself on anyone. There is no real evidence he ever has.

    They’ve got nothing on the guy, and if they did he would never have gotten this far.

    Has he met mobsters and talked to them? Of course he has. You don’t do New York real estate without dealing with some of the dregs of earth. Doesn’t mean he did anything illegal.

    Roy Cohn was a homosexual and a general no-goodnik, but he was a licensed attorney when Trump had legal dealings with him. He was later disbarred, but not for any dealings involving Trump.

    We knew everything there is to know about Trump when he was elected. I voted for him. I have no regrets having done so. He was elected President, not canonized as a saint.

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    The widespread hope that there must be all these secrets about the reclusive, publicity shy Mr. Trump who suddenly emerged in 2016 out of nowhere is a little weird.

    After all, the Democrats just ran a candidate against him who belongs to the country club he owns. Hillary kept bringing up in the debates all these obscure country club scandals, like Trump stiffing the architect on their clubhouse out of some of his fees.

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  66. Boethiuss says:
    @J.Ross
    Maybe we should take Paul Ryan's feelings about our physical safety seriously and campaign as strenuously against the GOP as we did for Trump. A Democratic Congress brings the civil war closer.

    Maybe we should take Paul Ryan’s feelings about our physical safety seriously and campaign as strenuously against the GOP as we did for Trump. A Democratic Congress brings the civil war closer.

    Are you like, a person or one of Zuckerberg’s troll bots? And who’s we, kemosabe?

    I’m talking about the political interests of American citizens which have been represented by the Republican Party since before our grandparents were born up through today. It’s anybody’s guess what you’re talking about.

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    So McCain trying to start a war with a nuclear power and colluding with terrorists, McConnell kowtowing to Beijing, and Republicans in general welcoming in as many Democrat-voting Mestizos as they can, represent our interests? The GOP is dead. The GOP put up twenty respectable, Inner Party approved, Luntz tested, establishment candidates, and they all wiped out before a guy no respectable person thought could win at any level. Dems are dead too (Bernie had popular support that cheating Hillary did not) but get carried around as in a funeral march by their new peones. Who's "we" indeed. Maybe there will be a blue wave in autumn, but it will neither be Trump's fault nor the Democrat's work. This spending bill is the "party of our values" telling the only people who think this party should legally be allowed to exist, let alone would vote for it, to violently kill ourselves while aging boomers and rioting gangbangers cheer and laugh.
    We're not going to kill ourselves, we're going to kill your party. These are your last elections. If you can't get it together in this time frame then you can look forward to being whoever it was in Mexico that wasn't the Institutional Revolutionary Party for a human lifetime. You'll exist, and there will even be people who vote for you, but not in any serious sense.
    , @Twodees Partain
    "I’m talking about the political interests of American citizens which have been represented by the Republican Party since before our grandparents were born up through today. "

    That's the funniest thing I've read this week. Tell me it was a joke.
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  67. Anonymous[237] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    Maybe we should take Paul Ryan's feelings about our physical safety seriously and campaign as strenuously against the GOP as we did for Trump. A Democratic Congress brings the civil war closer.

    The GOP has been around in its current form since before the Civil War. Maybe we should be working helping them out and not worrying about Trump so much, because they are going to be around long after Trump is gone. And we’ll probably be needing them then as well.

    Rule Number One: Don’t give your vote away. Extract a price for it.

    The GOP replaced the Whig Party, and it in turn could be replaced too.

    Because of our electoral system, there will always be a tendency towards a two party system, but those parties are not codified in the Constitution. If either the Dems or the GOP become “largely irrelevant” in actual fact, they will almost instantly be replaced and either cease to exist or become like the current third parties, i.e., the greens, libtys, et al.

    The machinery is not precious. It’s a tool and it can be built as needed, with some effort, but not a Herculean one.

    Don’t vote for cucks. Period. No matter how bad the alternative.

    Make the ostensible Right earn the vote or lose their seats. If the GOP insists on running cucks, vote third party, write in someone or don’t cast a ballot in that particular race. (You do not have to vote in every race on the ballot.) Vote in the primary, and let the cucks know when they get the nomination that you are withholding the unction of your vote. And why.

    Little Miss Muffett famously stated that she would have gotten it on with Iggy Pop (who she correctly states in her book is enormously todgerly) but didn’t because of her strict vegetarianism-”I don’t f*** meat eaters”. I take my beliefs as seriously as she takes hers. I don’t vote for cucks.

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  68. Boethiuss says:
    @Issac
    Be that as it may, there is a vast and growing population that isn't getting anything out of the Trump admin and they aren't interested in the neocon GOP either.

    Ultimately, I think you're going to see incredibly low voter turnout for the right going forward until someone takes the implicitly pro-white messaging and puts some effort into making it policy.

    Yes there are going to be worse consequences for your country, and likely mine too given BDS is now surging in the far left along side minority power, because of this wave of disenchantment, but blame can only truly be laid at the feet of the political right that couldn't find anything at all to deliver.

    What purpose is your GOP if they can't or won't improve the lot of their base in the long term and punish the flagrantly illegal and treasonous behavior of their base's deadly enemies? There is none.

    So calumny all the while with this story of how much worse it would or will be, but the state itself can't survive much more of the left. Let the military enjoy being full of diverse and transgender soldiers while China had the world to themselves. If people with actual power in the American right can't be bothered to find their balls long enough to pass the pittance Trump has spoken of, then surely the average right wing voter can't be expected to support them.

    What purpose is your GOP if they can’t or won’t improve the lot of their base in the long term and punish the flagrantly illegal and treasonous behavior of their base’s deadly enemies? There is none.

    I don’t know how many Americans think this way. There may be a lot, but even if it’s just a few it’s a serious problem nonetheless. For those people to whom it applies, they are in woeful denial woeful denial about what elections are supposed to mean.

    For example, there’s polls that supposedly show that 60-80-whatever percent of Americans favor normalizing the DACA participants. That doesn’t mean that is going to happen necessarily, but it does factor in the minds of our elected officials, no matter who they are or which party won the last election.

    If we can’t be bothered to stay loyal to our shared citizenship as Americans, we’re going to get Darwined out of existence, and we’ll deserve it.

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    If we can’t be bothered to stay loyal to our shared citizenship as Americans

    What does this mean? Does it mean "hold a memory of a funny, three-cornered hat in your head, so you can keep still while Angel begins to cut your neck"? My understanding of my citizenship is not "legitimize my own destruction."
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    Citizenship is a nominalism. You can plop me down in Armenia, teach me Armenian, give me Armenian citizenship. Doesn't make me Armenian other than as an administrative designation.

    If you want Republican Party policy, you need Republican Party demographics.
    , @MarkinLA
    For example, there’s polls that supposedly show that 60-80-whatever percent of Americans favor normalizing the DACA participants.

    And no attempts to attack the legitimacy of those polls. Nobody ever follows up with questions about their parents if they are normalized. No attempts is made to show exactly how special the Dreamers are (only 35% have high school diplomas from some of the crappiest schools in America). They also use push polls and don't ask the question in any way that would give a negative result such as "Do you really care if the DACAs are deported".

    The bottom line is that nobody is going to change his vote over the Dreamers but the media makes it appear that it is issue number 1 in the country.
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    @Boethiuss


    Maybe we should take Paul Ryan’s feelings about our physical safety seriously and campaign as strenuously against the GOP as we did for Trump. A Democratic Congress brings the civil war closer.
     
    Are you like, a person or one of Zuckerberg's troll bots? And who's we, kemosabe?

    I'm talking about the political interests of American citizens which have been represented by the Republican Party since before our grandparents were born up through today. It's anybody's guess what you're talking about.

    So McCain trying to start a war with a nuclear power and colluding with terrorists, McConnell kowtowing to Beijing, and Republicans in general welcoming in as many Democrat-voting Mestizos as they can, represent our interests? The GOP is dead. The GOP put up twenty respectable, Inner Party approved, Luntz tested, establishment candidates, and they all wiped out before a guy no respectable person thought could win at any level. Dems are dead too (Bernie had popular support that cheating Hillary did not) but get carried around as in a funeral march by their new peones. Who’s “we” indeed. Maybe there will be a blue wave in autumn, but it will neither be Trump’s fault nor the Democrat’s work. This spending bill is the “party of our values” telling the only people who think this party should legally be allowed to exist, let alone would vote for it, to violently kill ourselves while aging boomers and rioting gangbangers cheer and laugh.
    We’re not going to kill ourselves, we’re going to kill your party. These are your last elections. If you can’t get it together in this time frame then you can look forward to being whoever it was in Mexico that wasn’t the Institutional Revolutionary Party for a human lifetime. You’ll exist, and there will even be people who vote for you, but not in any serious sense.

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    These are your last elections. If you can’t get it together in this time frame then you can look forward to being whoever it was in Mexico that wasn’t the Institutional Revolutionary Party for a human lifetime. You’ll exist, and there will even be people who vote for you, but not in any serious sense.
     
    Oh bullshit. It's closer to say that we are the PRI of the United States. Or more precisely, the Bushes and the Paul Ryans are sitting in their haciendas drinking tequila whereas you are some irrelevant "proud" campesino trying to hoe the weeds out of three acres of countryside so that some corn might grow there.

    Why? Because they are the ones who figured out how things work and adapted to it, whereas you are getting and going to continue to get the just desserts of your stubbornness.
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  70. @Anonymous
    Trump likes p***y, and he likes to hang out with people who have a lot of money to spend.

    That doesn't mean he is a rapist, pederast or pedophile. He likes grown adult women capable of consent, and he has a history of going after the top quality stuff. Successfully. He doesn't need to impose himself on anyone. There is no real evidence he ever has.

    They've got nothing on the guy, and if they did he would never have gotten this far.

    Has he met mobsters and talked to them? Of course he has. You don't do New York real estate without dealing with some of the dregs of earth. Doesn't mean he did anything illegal.

    Roy Cohn was a homosexual and a general no-goodnik, but he was a licensed attorney when Trump had legal dealings with him. He was later disbarred, but not for any dealings involving Trump.

    We knew everything there is to know about Trump when he was elected. I voted for him. I have no regrets having done so. He was elected President, not canonized as a saint.

    The widespread hope that there must be all these secrets about the reclusive, publicity shy Mr. Trump who suddenly emerged in 2016 out of nowhere is a little weird.

    After all, the Democrats just ran a candidate against him who belongs to the country club he owns. Hillary kept bringing up in the debates all these obscure country club scandals, like Trump stiffing the architect on their clubhouse out of some of his fees.

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  71. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Boethiuss

    What purpose is your GOP if they can’t or won’t improve the lot of their base in the long term and punish the flagrantly illegal and treasonous behavior of their base’s deadly enemies? There is none.
     
    I don't know how many Americans think this way. There may be a lot, but even if it's just a few it's a serious problem nonetheless. For those people to whom it applies, they are in woeful denial woeful denial about what elections are supposed to mean.

    For example, there's polls that supposedly show that 60-80-whatever percent of Americans favor normalizing the DACA participants. That doesn't mean that is going to happen necessarily, but it does factor in the minds of our elected officials, no matter who they are or which party won the last election.

    If we can't be bothered to stay loyal to our shared citizenship as Americans, we're going to get Darwined out of existence, and we'll deserve it.

    If we can’t be bothered to stay loyal to our shared citizenship as Americans

    What does this mean? Does it mean “hold a memory of a funny, three-cornered hat in your head, so you can keep still while Angel begins to cut your neck”? My understanding of my citizenship is not “legitimize my own destruction.”

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    What does this mean? Does it mean “hold a memory of a funny, three-cornered hat in your head, so you can keep still while Angel begins to cut your neck”? My understanding of my citizenship is not “legitimize my own destruction.”
     
    Ohhh, I feel so bad, do you want me to play the violin for you? The Republicans cucked, and there was nothing we could do.

    God, I hope you are not representative of white America in the current year. 'Cause if you are, Tiny Duck was right the whole time.
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  72. Realist says:
    @Thomas
    I'd say so, unless he finds the balls to veto. He's been whining for a few weeks now on Twitter that nobody wants to make a "deal" with him over DACA. Looks weak everywhere these days: immigration, guns, Mueller, leaks.

    Trump is a meandering fool.

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  73. Realist says:

    Schumer Outsmarts Trump?

    Not exactly a herculean endeavor.

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  74. Look people, I’ve done my fair share of whining about Trump here at Unz, but before continuing your tirade against him, you all have to back up for a minute and understand something important: to the extent that Trump’s promises can be taken seriously, he’s up against the entire political élite–both Republican as well as Democrat. His bargaining position is, therefore, incredibly weak. Realistically speaking, he has no meaningful way of either enticing or intimidating them into doing a deal, so they don’t have to. Rather, it is they who have infinitely many ways of intimidating Trump, and that’s just what they’ve been doing successfully for over a year now. Consequently, any concession made by Trump will just be pocketed by Ryan et al., and Trump will get nothing in return.

    He basically only has 3 powers:

    1.) the veto
    2.) the ‘bully pulpit’ (including Twitter)
    3.) executive order

    That’s it. He’s been doing enough of #2 I think, so now it’s time for some #1 and #3.

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  75. @J.Ross
    Maybe we should take Paul Ryan's feelings about our physical safety seriously and campaign as strenuously against the GOP as we did for Trump. A Democratic Congress brings the civil war closer.

    A Democratic Congress brings the civil war closer.

    “The Civil War” ™ is already happening.

    Not sure why you think it’s a good thing either. Why do you want to escalate a war we’re already losing? It’s not going to go the way you think it is.

    We have a lot of hardware and we have a lot of privates (even more generals, in their own minds at least) but we have no leadership.

    Who are the squad leaders, lieutenants and colonels of the White team? Who exists that you, personally, would follow into combat?

    Meanwhile there’s an antifa in every major city who in 5 minutes of texting can come up with several guys that will all take a bat to your head in broad daylight. And the blacks who don’t have to text message, they can just walk down to the corner and come up with soldiers who have killed before and will happily do it again.

    And the enemy has massive representation in the government, police force leadership, media, judges, etc etc etc.

    Every single GOP-er would condemn a White paramilitary group. Every single one. Zero institutional support.

    Robert E Lee was in charge of the US military academy before he went with Virginia. The CSA leadership were all US Army officers before secession.

    George Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, etc etc, were among the richest and most powerful men in the colonies before they started their revolution.

    Do you get the point yet?

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    Those are excellent points, well stated. It's quite disheartening.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    I won't make this an everyday thing, but I want to reply this time, 27-y/o, with a short comment I made under Fred Reed's latest column here:


    [In reply to Mr. Reed:]. You are mostly likely wrong that the Feral Gov’t can conquer a determined American patriotic resistance. Peak Stupidity just got through with a 6-part series on this, starting with the ridiculously-weak useful idiot antifa types, their Commie backers, the American side, “The People of The Gun”, the dieversity-weakened social program called the American military, and with parallels, contrasts, and lessons to be learned from the cultural wars of the 1960′s. We are no prosperous manufacturer for the free-world anymore, so no, this ain’t the 1960′s. This time, the way the cntrl-left wants it and keeps pushing, it may become a hot war.

    Yeah, it's just a link-bomb here, but I spent lots of time writing this up last week and didn't want to write it over here. I'd like to know what you disagree with on what I wrote. I am more optimistic than you, is the gist of it.
    , @J.Ross
    >Shut up or else we'll beat you up
    Room-temperature carbs, bro.
    >Antifa is a real thing
    Antifa are property-destroying hooligans who exist only where the police department has been compromised and is physically present to protect Antifa. In such a situation I'd be much more worried about the cops. But I don't live in San Jose or Charlottesville. Furthermore, despite the media, ordinary people are seeing Antifa antics.
    >You are threatened, therefore acquiesce, so you can immediately suffer the thing you were threatened by.
    Much logic, very sense. But we can't all be of French heritage.
    Real blood | not mere tapwater | (nor Flint tapwater) | in | and maybe from | our veins flows | And we die | so that we can be born again | as lasting works | that an Antifa | hooligan | or a SXSW attendee | cannot | conceive, | begin, or | spell.
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  76. snorlax says:
    @istevefan
    There is no doubt he is being opposed by both sides. But he does have the ability to be creative. For example, he could use the military to help patrol the border. And he could step up workplace enforcement. I think he really wants the wall and knows the base does too.

    Part of the problem is that people on our side are not really doing anything to help out. We voted in November 2016. Some of us even contributed money. Some went to rallies. But outside of that are we really doing anything to help out? The other side can get people in the streets and organize boycotts all at the drop of a hat. We can't or won't.

    For example, he could use the military to help patrol the border.

    The Posse Comitatus Act forbids this.

    And he could step up workplace enforcement.

    He is. The problem is there aren’t nearly enough (and Dems+cucks are fighting tooth and nail to block funding for any more) ICE agents and immigration judges; I saw the other day that the backlog of existing(!) removal cases is something like 200 years.

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    Enforcing federal law and authority at the border with the Army is more likely than not, well within the powers of any President. The purpose behind the restrictions was to prevent a recurrence of federal military involvement in the domestic civil affairs of the former Confederate states. This is why George Bush was forced to wait on a formal request from Governor Blanco to deploy federal troops to aid following Katrina.
    Eisenhower used the 101st Airborne to enforce the federal court order to integrate Little Rock Central High School.
    Posse Comitatus restrictions do not apply to the National Guard, the Navy or the Coast Guard.
    , @Mr. Anon


    For example, he could use the military to help patrol the border.
     
    The Posse Comitatus Act forbids this.
     
    Not if they do it on the Mexican side.
    , @istevefan

    The Posse Comitatus Act forbids this.
     
    Historically the US Army had a mission to guard the Mexican border. That is one of the reasons why there was a string of forts along the border area. Also, G Bush in this century deployed national guardsman to the border. And I believe he "federalized" them in doing so.
    , @Twodees Partain
    "The Posse Comitatus Act forbids this."

    No, it doesn't. Guarding the border is not a matter of domestic law enforcement. It is and always has been a military matter, and is a valid use of the the militia or even of the US military forces.
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  77. @Whiskey
    That's not me.

    Yeah looks like Blue Wave and impeachment four being a straight White Male unashamed of being one. But that's politics.

    Chucky Schemer is noir some super genius. He just knows what he fights for and Trump never meant to build a wall. It was just bait.

    Time for politics is over. We need our own ADL and SPLC. Lawfare.

    Lawfare only works for the left.

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  78. Busby says:
    @snorlax

    For example, he could use the military to help patrol the border.
     
    The Posse Comitatus Act forbids this.

    And he could step up workplace enforcement.
     
    He is. The problem is there aren’t nearly enough (and Dems+cucks are fighting tooth and nail to block funding for any more) ICE agents and immigration judges; I saw the other day that the backlog of existing(!) removal cases is something like 200 years.

    Enforcing federal law and authority at the border with the Army is more likely than not, well within the powers of any President. The purpose behind the restrictions was to prevent a recurrence of federal military involvement in the domestic civil affairs of the former Confederate states. This is why George Bush was forced to wait on a formal request from Governor Blanco to deploy federal troops to aid following Katrina.
    Eisenhower used the 101st Airborne to enforce the federal court order to integrate Little Rock Central High School.
    Posse Comitatus restrictions do not apply to the National Guard, the Navy or the Coast Guard.

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  79. @Boethiuss

    What purpose is your GOP if they can’t or won’t improve the lot of their base in the long term and punish the flagrantly illegal and treasonous behavior of their base’s deadly enemies? There is none.
     
    I don't know how many Americans think this way. There may be a lot, but even if it's just a few it's a serious problem nonetheless. For those people to whom it applies, they are in woeful denial woeful denial about what elections are supposed to mean.

    For example, there's polls that supposedly show that 60-80-whatever percent of Americans favor normalizing the DACA participants. That doesn't mean that is going to happen necessarily, but it does factor in the minds of our elected officials, no matter who they are or which party won the last election.

    If we can't be bothered to stay loyal to our shared citizenship as Americans, we're going to get Darwined out of existence, and we'll deserve it.

    Citizenship is a nominalism. You can plop me down in Armenia, teach me Armenian, give me Armenian citizenship. Doesn’t make me Armenian other than as an administrative designation.

    If you want Republican Party policy, you need Republican Party demographics.

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    I used to look forward to your comments but damn you have become so boring and repetitive.
    , @J.Ross
    Right, there is one huge undiscussed political fact of the moment: whites are tribalizing, and are still majority enough that when they vote as whites, they win, and in numbers big enough to prevent cheating. There is no strategy, rhetorical device, or belly-flopping concession the GOP has that can touch this.
    , @Corvinus
    "Citizenship is a nominalism. You can plop me down in Armenia, teach me Armenian, give me Armenian citizenship. Doesn’t make me Armenian other than as an administrative designation."

    The same argument could be made for ANY immigrant group that came to America--the Irish, the Germans, the Italians, the Slavs. Except they married within or outside their ethnic group, sired offspring, and immersed themselves in culture and society for generations. That makes a people. That is the history of America.

    Now, if you want to go back, then go back.
    , @Hibernian
    We are not Armenians. The problem comes when new immigrants come in faster than old ones can be assimilated.
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  80. Mr. Anon says:
    @snorlax

    For example, he could use the military to help patrol the border.
     
    The Posse Comitatus Act forbids this.

    And he could step up workplace enforcement.
     
    He is. The problem is there aren’t nearly enough (and Dems+cucks are fighting tooth and nail to block funding for any more) ICE agents and immigration judges; I saw the other day that the backlog of existing(!) removal cases is something like 200 years.

    For example, he could use the military to help patrol the border.

    The Posse Comitatus Act forbids this.

    Not if they do it on the Mexican side.

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  81. @27 year old

    A Democratic Congress brings the civil war closer.
     
    "The Civil War" (tm) is already happening.

    Not sure why you think it's a good thing either. Why do you want to escalate a war we're already losing? It's not going to go the way you think it is.

    We have a lot of hardware and we have a lot of privates (even more generals, in their own minds at least) but we have no leadership.

    Who are the squad leaders, lieutenants and colonels of the White team? Who exists that you, personally, would follow into combat?

    Meanwhile there's an antifa in every major city who in 5 minutes of texting can come up with several guys that will all take a bat to your head in broad daylight. And the blacks who don't have to text message, they can just walk down to the corner and come up with soldiers who have killed before and will happily do it again.

    And the enemy has massive representation in the government, police force leadership, media, judges, etc etc etc.

    Every single GOP-er would condemn a White paramilitary group. Every single one. Zero institutional support.

    Robert E Lee was in charge of the US military academy before he went with Virginia. The CSA leadership were all US Army officers before secession.

    George Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, etc etc, were among the richest and most powerful men in the colonies before they started their revolution.

    Do you get the point yet?

    Those are excellent points, well stated. It’s quite disheartening.

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  82. @Berty
    The GOPe doesn't force Trump to make himself look stupid on Twitter, say moronic things in public (like his disastrous gun control ramblings) or prevent him from learning the legislative process himself. That's all on him.

    Yeah, that Twittering . You guys need to stop obsessing about his tweets. If you don’t like them, don’t read them. Personally, I love tweets like this.

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    It's swell that you love them. Guess what? Everyone else hates them. I'm somewhere in between.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Sorry, Bragadocious, but unlike Berty, I am not in the middle. This crap is juvenile, like something from a 10 y/o at the playground. All I think when I read this stuff (2nd-hand) is "There's 2 minutes of this guy's schedule that were not used to figure out who we need to lean on and what judges should be encouraged to be impeached, what positions in the bureaucracy should have conservatives hired in for to shake things up, etc".

    Per my comment above this one (reply to LA-Mark), his tweets could serve a good purpose. This version of the bully pulpit could be used to get the voters motivated by letting them know exactly who should be thrown out of office for obstructing the plans these voters put Trump in for.
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  83. Issac says:

    If you aren’t loyal to those who support you, then you are effectively loyal to nobody at all. Loyalty to an enemy who spits on your civic virtues is the lowest form of self-abasement.

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  84. @istevefan
    There is no doubt he is being opposed by both sides. But he does have the ability to be creative. For example, he could use the military to help patrol the border. And he could step up workplace enforcement. I think he really wants the wall and knows the base does too.

    Part of the problem is that people on our side are not really doing anything to help out. We voted in November 2016. Some of us even contributed money. Some went to rallies. But outside of that are we really doing anything to help out? The other side can get people in the streets and organize boycotts all at the drop of a hat. We can't or won't.

    The problem of course is that most Trump voters have these things called “jobs” which means we can’t be out in the public square on a Tuesday afternoon. Unlike the opposition, which is largely jobless and can be bought off for a $50 per diem to hold placards, scream and throw things.

    Best thing we can do is let Trump be Trump. And get better GOP candidates into Congress. With apologies to Ann Coulter, 1000 mile walls don’t get built in a year.

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    No but you have to do something like what Obama did on DACA. Do something the Constitution doesn't specifically allow you to do, but doesn't explicitly restrict it and let the howlers howl. If he starts building the wall with the Army Corps of Engineers it will be so popular that it might not be able to be stopped. In any event, let it drag on in court while the wall is being built.
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  85. Berty says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    Citizenship is a nominalism. You can plop me down in Armenia, teach me Armenian, give me Armenian citizenship. Doesn't make me Armenian other than as an administrative designation.

    If you want Republican Party policy, you need Republican Party demographics.

    I used to look forward to your comments but damn you have become so boring and repetitive.

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  86. istevefan says:
    @snorlax

    For example, he could use the military to help patrol the border.
     
    The Posse Comitatus Act forbids this.

    And he could step up workplace enforcement.
     
    He is. The problem is there aren’t nearly enough (and Dems+cucks are fighting tooth and nail to block funding for any more) ICE agents and immigration judges; I saw the other day that the backlog of existing(!) removal cases is something like 200 years.

    The Posse Comitatus Act forbids this.

    Historically the US Army had a mission to guard the Mexican border. That is one of the reasons why there was a string of forts along the border area. Also, G Bush in this century deployed national guardsman to the border. And I believe he “federalized” them in doing so.

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  87. vx37 says:
    @Boethiuss

    This is probably Trump’s last chance to get the wall and, with it, any chance of reelection in 2020. The odds are that the Democrats will take the House in November. September will be too close to the election for the Republicans to take risks with the budget then. If he goes into the 2020 election and nothing has happened on the wall, it’ll be his “read my lips” moment.
     
    This could end up working out that way, but it's a failure on our part if it does.

    Objectively speaking, Trump's record is better than it needs to be for anybody who is persuadeable to vote Republican. So far, we have low unemployment (and getting lower), positive growth, Gorsuch, ISIS defeated, the possibility of North Korea denuclearization, maybe even meaningful wage growth.

    More importantly, there hasn't been any significant backsliding on any issue relative to the end of the Obama Administration, and there's a good chance DACA will be ended as well. The negatives are Charlottesville and Parkland, which in big picture terms, aren't really that big a deal.

    Given all that, we're still stuck at 40% approval. The problem is Trump himself, his persona, and the perception of instability that goes with that.

    Trump and his enthusiasts have drunk the Kool-Aid hard about hard the alpha-male symbolism and the perception of toughness. But no matter how strong Trump's posture or persuasive words are according to the likes of Scott Adams, we're still losing out.

    To a significant extent, strength in politics comes from the perception of permanence, and Trump clearly doesn't have it. There's just no way to do a body-language or linguistic analysis and try to pretend any different. We can all see that there are no legions of Trump loyalists with important jobs in the executive branch (or anywhere else in government, or in the punditocracy). We're all in a position of waiting for the whole thing to finally fall apart like a 77 Chevelle.

    But you know, there is one thing that is permanent in our political landscape, the Republican Party. The GOP has been around in its current form since before the Civil War. Maybe we should be working helping them out and not worrying about Trump so much, because they are going to be around long after Trump is gone. And we'll probably be needing them then as well.

    That’s some classic concern trolling right there. Thanks to demographic changes brought about largely by Republican treason, voting Republican will soon be an exercise in futility, a protest vote, like voting Green or Libertarian. They’re not going to always be around, they’re circling the drain.

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    That’s some classic concern trolling right there. Thanks to demographic changes brought about largely by Republican treason, voting Republican will soon be an exercise in futility, a protest vote, like voting Green or Libertarian. They’re not going to always be around, they’re circling the drain.
     
    Bullshit. There may be a day sometime when voting GOP is an exercise in futility, but it clearly isn't today.

    There's some useful charts at this link:

    https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/973765891111481345

    Basically it says that PA-18 Dem voters were strongly motivated to vote for Lamb, but the GOP voters were indifferent to Sacchone. This is good and bad news. The bad news is obvious: it means that it's harder for the GOP to win elections in this jurisdiction. And in fact Lamb, the Democrat, did win this special election.

    The good news is more subtle, though actually more important imo. If somehow, some way, the GOP can beat the Dems in the year the Dems are geared up by Trump, we'll win a lot of battles in the future because the other side isn't going to bother to show up.

    All the outside money flooding into Ossoff, or Conor Lamb, or the Pussy Hat Marches, or the Parkland HS students, all those people are motivated toward political activism because they hate what Trump represents, and also because they think they can will win with it. Take away half of this equation and things change. People find other stuff to do with their time and energy.
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  88. MarkinLA says:
    @Berty
    Trump's stupidity and incompetence and lack of deal making skills and lack of self-discipline is what has torpedoed his agenda. He has good ideas about immigration and trade but if he has no ability to make them a reality than it doesn't matter.

    Trump knows how to make “deals” in the business world where both sides want a deal. That is part of his problem. He thinks that what was wrong with Washington was that people just didn’t know how to make deals. Trump stupidly thought that he would come up with a deal that gave everybody something and everybody would jump at it. He didn’t realize that the people who voted him in are sick of “deals” where the donors get what they want and the voters get screwed again. That game of self-negating clauses stuck into bills that make sure only one side wins is why there is no support for deals in Trump’s constituency.

    He has never had to twist a few balls to get what he wants and that is what he needs to do. He has more power than he realizes but he won’t lead. He needs to push GOP Congressmen to make things happen on the floor of Congress but he won’t. As I continue to harp on – the individual components of immigration reform like ending the visa lottery are far more popular with the voters than comprehensive immigration reform, yet there is no attempt to get a vote on that single issue and make politicians take a stand on that.

    The reason Congress wants comprehensive immigration reform is because it gives amnesty a better chance of sneaking through and every voter knows it.

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    AGREED, Mark, and with all your comments in this thread. (Amazing how we are at 180-degrees on other certain topics!). Let me add this though:

    This bully pulpit of Trump's could be used much more intelligently, if he'd lay off the juvenile tweets and do some thinking (or even hire the right guy to do this thinking). Look, pick out the congressmen and senators of the GOP that are the problem, Do some serious hounding of them (yes tweets'd be OK in this regard) and shaming of them to the public, his voters. Let them know exactly who is obstructing this bill and this other one. Let the voters know exactly who needs to be primaried out this year to get rid of anyone that doesn't play ball. It could be a simple website that shows a 2018 electoral strategy with explanations.

    For the obstructionists and the few guys already playing ball, put their names in lights - let the public know what their part is. That's called being a leader. It would have the effect of bringing out lots of R-votes, because people like knowing they are coming out for a specific reason ("Get rid of the infernal faggot Lindsey Grahmnesty!". OK, that's '20, I know - "we're not supporting this guy, he voted against the border barrier" etc. etc.). There are some tweets I could get behind.
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  89. @27 year old

    A Democratic Congress brings the civil war closer.
     
    "The Civil War" (tm) is already happening.

    Not sure why you think it's a good thing either. Why do you want to escalate a war we're already losing? It's not going to go the way you think it is.

    We have a lot of hardware and we have a lot of privates (even more generals, in their own minds at least) but we have no leadership.

    Who are the squad leaders, lieutenants and colonels of the White team? Who exists that you, personally, would follow into combat?

    Meanwhile there's an antifa in every major city who in 5 minutes of texting can come up with several guys that will all take a bat to your head in broad daylight. And the blacks who don't have to text message, they can just walk down to the corner and come up with soldiers who have killed before and will happily do it again.

    And the enemy has massive representation in the government, police force leadership, media, judges, etc etc etc.

    Every single GOP-er would condemn a White paramilitary group. Every single one. Zero institutional support.

    Robert E Lee was in charge of the US military academy before he went with Virginia. The CSA leadership were all US Army officers before secession.

    George Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, etc etc, were among the richest and most powerful men in the colonies before they started their revolution.

    Do you get the point yet?

    I won’t make this an everyday thing, but I want to reply this time, 27-y/o, with a short comment I made under Fred Reed’s latest column here:

    [In reply to Mr. Reed:]. You are mostly likely wrong that the Feral Gov’t can conquer a determined American patriotic resistance. Peak Stupidity just got through with a 6-part series on this, starting with the ridiculously-weak useful idiot antifa types, their Commie backers, the American side, “The People of The Gun”, the dieversity-weakened social program called the American military, and with parallels, contrasts, and lessons to be learned from the cultural wars of the 1960′s. We are no prosperous manufacturer for the free-world anymore, so no, this ain’t the 1960′s. This time, the way the cntrl-left wants it and keeps pushing, it may become a hot war.

    Yeah, it’s just a link-bomb here, but I spent lots of time writing this up last week and didn’t want to write it over here. I’d like to know what you disagree with on what I wrote. I am more optimistic than you, is the gist of it.

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    You're missing the point, you're assuming a can opener.

    A determined patriot resistance could beat the federal government... okay...

    Somebody credible has to actually start one and a whole bunch more people need to run it while it's happening. Where are these people?
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  90. MarkinLA says:
    @Bragadocious
    All you Trump bashers, I'd like to see you get funding for a wall when 85% of Congress is against you. Tell me what persuasion skills you'd bring to the table to get this done.

    Why persuade anybody? Put the Army Corp of Engineers in charge of building the wall given that he has the power under the Constitution to defend the borders. If some court issues and injunction, ignore it.

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    You still have to aquire the land. Commandeering it as an emergency military measure won't fly.
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  91. MarkinLA says:
    @Boethiuss

    What purpose is your GOP if they can’t or won’t improve the lot of their base in the long term and punish the flagrantly illegal and treasonous behavior of their base’s deadly enemies? There is none.
     
    I don't know how many Americans think this way. There may be a lot, but even if it's just a few it's a serious problem nonetheless. For those people to whom it applies, they are in woeful denial woeful denial about what elections are supposed to mean.

    For example, there's polls that supposedly show that 60-80-whatever percent of Americans favor normalizing the DACA participants. That doesn't mean that is going to happen necessarily, but it does factor in the minds of our elected officials, no matter who they are or which party won the last election.

    If we can't be bothered to stay loyal to our shared citizenship as Americans, we're going to get Darwined out of existence, and we'll deserve it.

    For example, there’s polls that supposedly show that 60-80-whatever percent of Americans favor normalizing the DACA participants.

    And no attempts to attack the legitimacy of those polls. Nobody ever follows up with questions about their parents if they are normalized. No attempts is made to show exactly how special the Dreamers are (only 35% have high school diplomas from some of the crappiest schools in America). They also use push polls and don’t ask the question in any way that would give a negative result such as “Do you really care if the DACAs are deported”.

    The bottom line is that nobody is going to change his vote over the Dreamers but the media makes it appear that it is issue number 1 in the country.

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    And no attempts to attack the legitimacy of those polls.
     
    Well no, in a bank shot way Trump and the GOP have attacked the legitimacy of those polls. They simply called Schumer's bluff over the matter. And that part worked. It's just that other parts of Trump and his erratic persona and volatile governance are turning the voters off, the taking the GOP down with him.
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  92. MarkinLA says:
    @Bragadocious
    The problem of course is that most Trump voters have these things called "jobs" which means we can't be out in the public square on a Tuesday afternoon. Unlike the opposition, which is largely jobless and can be bought off for a $50 per diem to hold placards, scream and throw things.

    Best thing we can do is let Trump be Trump. And get better GOP candidates into Congress. With apologies to Ann Coulter, 1000 mile walls don't get built in a year.

    No but you have to do something like what Obama did on DACA. Do something the Constitution doesn’t specifically allow you to do, but doesn’t explicitly restrict it and let the howlers howl. If he starts building the wall with the Army Corps of Engineers it will be so popular that it might not be able to be stopped. In any event, let it drag on in court while the wall is being built.

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    I don't think Trump wants to build a wall with an EO. That would be an Obama move and I think Trump wants to do this legislatively. Get the congresscritters on record, yay or nay, for a real wall. Let them appropriate the funds. In other words, force them to do their jobs. But I also don't mind your idea of saying "screw you all" and sending 500 Army bulldozers down there. Of course, there would be violent resistance under that scenario.
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  93. Boethiuss says:
    @Mishra
    The Republican Party is as dead as a doornail. You can stick a fork in it.

    Granted many are too stupid to read the writing on the wall, but it's there.

    The Republican Party is as dead as a doornail. You can stick a fork in it.</blockquo

    Wtf is this? Can you read a newspaper on the day it publishes election returns, or pay attention to who's in Congress, or the White House?

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    Democrats cheat every time. Republicans do nothing to stop them. Democrats lose when there is a big demonstration of support that throws off the numbers, in other words abnormal Republican voter turnout. Republicans will lose when they do not generate an abnormal turnout.
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  94. J.Ross says: • Website

    Obama got plenty done facing a Republican Congress. He had the rest of the government on his side but it seems like Congress is fake, it just lends the appearance of struggle and legitimacy to foregone conclusions. There will be some kind of an answer. Meanwhile we need to keep an eye on the Parkland Players and their upcoming psyop at the Capitol.

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    "Obama got plenty done facing a Republican Congress."

    That's because he had most of the GOP congress on his side. They are still on his side. The GOP is going to introduce all of the bills that the dems weren't able to get passed regarding gun confiscation. Just watch.
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  95. Boethiuss says:
    @J.Ross
    So McCain trying to start a war with a nuclear power and colluding with terrorists, McConnell kowtowing to Beijing, and Republicans in general welcoming in as many Democrat-voting Mestizos as they can, represent our interests? The GOP is dead. The GOP put up twenty respectable, Inner Party approved, Luntz tested, establishment candidates, and they all wiped out before a guy no respectable person thought could win at any level. Dems are dead too (Bernie had popular support that cheating Hillary did not) but get carried around as in a funeral march by their new peones. Who's "we" indeed. Maybe there will be a blue wave in autumn, but it will neither be Trump's fault nor the Democrat's work. This spending bill is the "party of our values" telling the only people who think this party should legally be allowed to exist, let alone would vote for it, to violently kill ourselves while aging boomers and rioting gangbangers cheer and laugh.
    We're not going to kill ourselves, we're going to kill your party. These are your last elections. If you can't get it together in this time frame then you can look forward to being whoever it was in Mexico that wasn't the Institutional Revolutionary Party for a human lifetime. You'll exist, and there will even be people who vote for you, but not in any serious sense.

    These are your last elections. If you can’t get it together in this time frame then you can look forward to being whoever it was in Mexico that wasn’t the Institutional Revolutionary Party for a human lifetime. You’ll exist, and there will even be people who vote for you, but not in any serious sense.

    Oh bullshit. It’s closer to say that we are the PRI of the United States. Or more precisely, the Bushes and the Paul Ryans are sitting in their haciendas drinking tequila whereas you are some irrelevant “proud” campesino trying to hoe the weeds out of three acres of countryside so that some corn might grow there.

    Why? Because they are the ones who figured out how things work and adapted to it, whereas you are getting and going to continue to get the just desserts of your stubbornness.

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    Oh bullshit
     
    I await your migrant-cancelling landslides, effected by not saying much and keeping your head down.
    I'll tell you what's bullshit, being demonstrably completely wrong at every turn and still trying to pass yourself off as an expert. Trump wasn't elected by magical Russian hackers or Hispanics who heard a magical combination of ass-kissing phrases. He was elected by millions of people who hate the warmongering tax-raising immigrant-summoning Democrats that the Republicans have become.
    Our problem is not Trump's honesty or clarity. Our central problem is our runaway elites shoving the conversation so far to the extreme left that they are no longer bothering with the Overton window. If main line Republicans offer no alternative to the Democrats then I am happy to see them lose.
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  96. MarkinLA says:
    @Boethiuss

    This is probably Trump’s last chance to get the wall and, with it, any chance of reelection in 2020. The odds are that the Democrats will take the House in November. September will be too close to the election for the Republicans to take risks with the budget then. If he goes into the 2020 election and nothing has happened on the wall, it’ll be his “read my lips” moment.
     
    This could end up working out that way, but it's a failure on our part if it does.

    Objectively speaking, Trump's record is better than it needs to be for anybody who is persuadeable to vote Republican. So far, we have low unemployment (and getting lower), positive growth, Gorsuch, ISIS defeated, the possibility of North Korea denuclearization, maybe even meaningful wage growth.

    More importantly, there hasn't been any significant backsliding on any issue relative to the end of the Obama Administration, and there's a good chance DACA will be ended as well. The negatives are Charlottesville and Parkland, which in big picture terms, aren't really that big a deal.

    Given all that, we're still stuck at 40% approval. The problem is Trump himself, his persona, and the perception of instability that goes with that.

    Trump and his enthusiasts have drunk the Kool-Aid hard about hard the alpha-male symbolism and the perception of toughness. But no matter how strong Trump's posture or persuasive words are according to the likes of Scott Adams, we're still losing out.

    To a significant extent, strength in politics comes from the perception of permanence, and Trump clearly doesn't have it. There's just no way to do a body-language or linguistic analysis and try to pretend any different. We can all see that there are no legions of Trump loyalists with important jobs in the executive branch (or anywhere else in government, or in the punditocracy). We're all in a position of waiting for the whole thing to finally fall apart like a 77 Chevelle.

    But you know, there is one thing that is permanent in our political landscape, the Republican Party. The GOP has been around in its current form since before the Civil War. Maybe we should be working helping them out and not worrying about Trump so much, because they are going to be around long after Trump is gone. And we'll probably be needing them then as well.

    The GOP has been around in its current form since before the Civil War. Maybe we should be working helping them out and not worrying about Trump so much, because they are going to be around long after Trump is gone. And we’ll probably be needing them then as well.

    Isn’t the goal of the GOP leadership to do nothing and wait Trump out so everything reverts back to normal? I thought the idea was to make the GOP more like Trump. How does reflexively supporting the GOP do that?

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    I thought the idea was to make the GOP more like Trump.
     
    This is not a good formulation.

    For the most part, it's a simplistic and juvenile mentality to go on about beating down the GOPe and the cucks and RINOs and the usual. But even if it sounds innocuous for you, this is even worse.

    Even if we were motivated to antagonize the GOPe, we still wouldn't want the GOP to be more like Trump. That would mean the GOP is about keeping Jared out of jail, real estate scams in Florida, and hush money to adult movie actresses. That is what Trump is about, and the GOP ought, supposedly, to be like him.

    We need the institutional party to have more credibility to implementing a populist agenda. For that we need supporters to help the party in that regard while retaining its competence and reputational capital. Emphasis on supporters. It has to be people with some loyalty to stay firm through the inevitable problems.

    Would you trust a Mexican gov't functionary to tell the US what our immigration policy ought to be? Well, Republicans think the same way.
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  97. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Boethiuss

    These are your last elections. If you can’t get it together in this time frame then you can look forward to being whoever it was in Mexico that wasn’t the Institutional Revolutionary Party for a human lifetime. You’ll exist, and there will even be people who vote for you, but not in any serious sense.
     
    Oh bullshit. It's closer to say that we are the PRI of the United States. Or more precisely, the Bushes and the Paul Ryans are sitting in their haciendas drinking tequila whereas you are some irrelevant "proud" campesino trying to hoe the weeds out of three acres of countryside so that some corn might grow there.

    Why? Because they are the ones who figured out how things work and adapted to it, whereas you are getting and going to continue to get the just desserts of your stubbornness.

    Oh bullshit

    I await your migrant-cancelling landslides, effected by not saying much and keeping your head down.
    I’ll tell you what’s bullshit, being demonstrably completely wrong at every turn and still trying to pass yourself off as an expert. Trump wasn’t elected by magical Russian hackers or Hispanics who heard a magical combination of ass-kissing phrases. He was elected by millions of people who hate the warmongering tax-raising immigrant-summoning Democrats that the Republicans have become.
    Our problem is not Trump’s honesty or clarity. Our central problem is our runaway elites shoving the conversation so far to the extreme left that they are no longer bothering with the Overton window. If main line Republicans offer no alternative to the Democrats then I am happy to see them lose.

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  98. Boethiuss says:
    @vx37
    That's some classic concern trolling right there. Thanks to demographic changes brought about largely by Republican treason, voting Republican will soon be an exercise in futility, a protest vote, like voting Green or Libertarian. They're not going to always be around, they're circling the drain.

    That’s some classic concern trolling right there. Thanks to demographic changes brought about largely by Republican treason, voting Republican will soon be an exercise in futility, a protest vote, like voting Green or Libertarian. They’re not going to always be around, they’re circling the drain.

    Bullshit. There may be a day sometime when voting GOP is an exercise in futility, but it clearly isn’t today.

    There’s some useful charts at this link:

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    After this omnibus bill and the submission on gun rights what Republican voter is going to be excited to vote?
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  99. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Boethiuss

    The Republican Party is as dead as a doornail. You can stick a fork in it.</blockquo

    Wtf is this? Can you read a newspaper on the day it publishes election returns, or pay attention to who's in Congress, or the White House?
     

     

    Democrats cheat every time. Republicans do nothing to stop them. Democrats lose when there is a big demonstration of support that throws off the numbers, in other words abnormal Republican voter turnout. Republicans will lose when they do not generate an abnormal turnout.

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  100. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Boethiuss


    That’s some classic concern trolling right there. Thanks to demographic changes brought about largely by Republican treason, voting Republican will soon be an exercise in futility, a protest vote, like voting Green or Libertarian. They’re not going to always be around, they’re circling the drain.
     
    Bullshit. There may be a day sometime when voting GOP is an exercise in futility, but it clearly isn't today.

    There's some useful charts at this link:

    https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/973765891111481345

    Basically it says that PA-18 Dem voters were strongly motivated to vote for Lamb, but the GOP voters were indifferent to Sacchone. This is good and bad news. The bad news is obvious: it means that it's harder for the GOP to win elections in this jurisdiction. And in fact Lamb, the Democrat, did win this special election.

    The good news is more subtle, though actually more important imo. If somehow, some way, the GOP can beat the Dems in the year the Dems are geared up by Trump, we'll win a lot of battles in the future because the other side isn't going to bother to show up.

    All the outside money flooding into Ossoff, or Conor Lamb, or the Pussy Hat Marches, or the Parkland HS students, all those people are motivated toward political activism because they hate what Trump represents, and also because they think they can will win with it. Take away half of this equation and things change. People find other stuff to do with their time and energy.

    After this omnibus bill and the submission on gun rights what Republican voter is going to be excited to vote?

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    https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/976874550112768001
    , @Boethiuss


    After this omnibus bill and the submission on gun rights what Republican voter is going to be excited to vote?
     
    All of them, I hope. If we're going to sell out our loyalty to the Republican Party over what's in the omnibus funding bill, we deserve to go the way of the dodo bird.

    It's obvious if you can about the likes of Tiny Duck for a second and what his motivations are likely to be. Do you suppose, for one second, that he cares about the difference between John McCain and Tom Cotton? Of course not. If gets his way, we're going to get rid of Donald Trump and Tom Cotton and John McCain and Mike Lee and Lindsey Graham and Laura Ingraham and Samuel Alito and Rush Limbaugh, etc, etc, etc.

    He is empowered toward those ends by the increase in enthusiasm and motivation of Democratic-leaning voters. But here's the thing. If those voters all go the polls with a head full of steam and motivation, and they lose anyway, that puts a big damper on things. The won't be as motivated in the future. We won't have to fight them nearly so hard again.
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  101. Boethiuss says:
    @J.Ross
    If we can’t be bothered to stay loyal to our shared citizenship as Americans

    What does this mean? Does it mean "hold a memory of a funny, three-cornered hat in your head, so you can keep still while Angel begins to cut your neck"? My understanding of my citizenship is not "legitimize my own destruction."

    What does this mean? Does it mean “hold a memory of a funny, three-cornered hat in your head, so you can keep still while Angel begins to cut your neck”? My understanding of my citizenship is not “legitimize my own destruction.”

    Ohhh, I feel so bad, do you want me to play the violin for you? The Republicans cucked, and there was nothing we could do.

    God, I hope you are not representative of white America in the current year. ‘Cause if you are, Tiny Duck was right the whole time.

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  102. @MarkinLA
    No but you have to do something like what Obama did on DACA. Do something the Constitution doesn't specifically allow you to do, but doesn't explicitly restrict it and let the howlers howl. If he starts building the wall with the Army Corps of Engineers it will be so popular that it might not be able to be stopped. In any event, let it drag on in court while the wall is being built.

    I don’t think Trump wants to build a wall with an EO. That would be an Obama move and I think Trump wants to do this legislatively. Get the congresscritters on record, yay or nay, for a real wall. Let them appropriate the funds. In other words, force them to do their jobs. But I also don’t mind your idea of saying “screw you all” and sending 500 Army bulldozers down there. Of course, there would be violent resistance under that scenario.

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  103. Anonymous[289] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Trump should take a page from Obama and Executive Order his way to the wall. Its pretty clear the elites are just not going to play fair and let the American people have what they voted for (much like the British elites are reneging on Brexit). So why play by their rules any longer? Another option, order the National Guard to build it. They're supposed to protect the borders after all.

    ” Another option, order the National Guard to build it. They’re supposed to protect the borders after all.”

    The Army Corps of Engineers has been my choice all along.

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  104. @Berty
    To him everything bad is always someone else's fault.

    To him everything bad is always someone else’s fault.

    Unfortunately for him, and many down ticket Republicans, that’s not the way voters assign blame. The 2018 elections will be a disaster for the GOP. And if the Democrats get a majority in the Senate as well as the House, Trump will not finish out his term. Senate Republicans will, and rightly so, see a loss of their Senate majority in the fall as a disaster, and a complete repudiation of Trump by the voters. They will vote with the Democrats to evict Trump from the Oval Office, so someone competent and less temperamental can become the GOP standard bearer.

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  105. @J.Ross
    Is the troll Whiskey using little punctuatory doodads to prevent (or delay) people from seeing his overall commenting history?

    All he needs is the Scot[']s spelling, whisky.

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  106. @The Z Blog
    I think at this point it is safe to say Trump was just a lucky bullshitter. He caught lightning in a bottle and got lucky in having an opponent that was appealing as rectal cancer.

    What I find remarkable about Trump is just how gutless he has been in office. Maybe they do have dirt on him. Or maybe he is a just a clueless loud mouth.

    Hey! You apologize to rectal cancer, right now!

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  107. @J.Ross
    OT Scotland's police twitter account is rolling out a variation of the Canadian literal blue pill.
    https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/03/21/straight-outta-orwell-scotland-polices-new-campaign-is-simply-terrifying/

    These are the same Scottish police who took away every pistol in Dunblane, except the only one that mattered.

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  108. @J.Ross
    OT Broward County School Board meeting to plan political protests using children; they also talk freely about using public school resources for political purposes, like xeroxing flyers. The protest they're talking about is the supposedly called-off one where they will generate buzz by illegally bringing firearms to the Capitol.
    http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/164864806
    At Instagram:
    WeAreTheChange_dc
    Audio
    https://youtu.be/2M0FWh2tOwg [
    Are public school teachers allowed to -- oh, never mind, this is Broward County.

    The protest they’re talking about is the supposedly called-off one where they will generate buzz by illegally bringing firearms to the Capitol.

    These people are dumber than Huey Newton. He artfully marched his armed Panthers through the Capitol in Sacramento without violating a single statute.

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  109. @Neoconned
    https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/exclusive-fired-fbi-official-authorized-criminal-probe-sessions/story%3fid=53914006#ampshare=http://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-fired-fbi-official-authorized-criminal-probe-sessions/story?id%3D53914006

    Are Andrew McCabe and Jim Comey certifiably insane?

    McCabe launched a felony investigation into his boss without going to Congress.

    Sedition charges come to mind....in another era they could have been hanged for this for treason....this is bordering on an attempted coup of a dually elected pesidency..... McCabe should count his stars he's not in shackles.

    “Sedition charges come to mind….in another era they could have been hanged for this for treason”

    The definition of treason in the US Constitution is the only valid standard for treason. Not that I like what McCabe did, but look at how it came about. It started with Sessions, who you left out of your indictment.

    Trump could have stopped all of this shit as soon as it started with some well-placed firings, but he’s clueless and is also advised by his enemies, which is bad enough, but he doesn’t even seem to recognize that he has surrounded himself with enemies. Trump was asking for it by appointing Sessions as AG. He’s a retard. Face it.

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  110. @TomSchmidt
    From the Kaus link: Ryan’s business-first wing of the GOP traded those immigration issues to win many gains for themselves, including a massive $78 billion increase in defense spending, and a huge $52 billion increase in domestic spending.

    What, precisely, are we "defending?" Nothing, it would seem.

    “What, precisely, are we “defending?” ”

    Israel, of course.

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  111. @Boethiuss


    Maybe we should take Paul Ryan’s feelings about our physical safety seriously and campaign as strenuously against the GOP as we did for Trump. A Democratic Congress brings the civil war closer.
     
    Are you like, a person or one of Zuckerberg's troll bots? And who's we, kemosabe?

    I'm talking about the political interests of American citizens which have been represented by the Republican Party since before our grandparents were born up through today. It's anybody's guess what you're talking about.

    “I’m talking about the political interests of American citizens which have been represented by the Republican Party since before our grandparents were born up through today. ”

    That’s the funniest thing I’ve read this week. Tell me it was a joke.

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  112. @Achmed E. Newman
    I won't make this an everyday thing, but I want to reply this time, 27-y/o, with a short comment I made under Fred Reed's latest column here:


    [In reply to Mr. Reed:]. You are mostly likely wrong that the Feral Gov’t can conquer a determined American patriotic resistance. Peak Stupidity just got through with a 6-part series on this, starting with the ridiculously-weak useful idiot antifa types, their Commie backers, the American side, “The People of The Gun”, the dieversity-weakened social program called the American military, and with parallels, contrasts, and lessons to be learned from the cultural wars of the 1960′s. We are no prosperous manufacturer for the free-world anymore, so no, this ain’t the 1960′s. This time, the way the cntrl-left wants it and keeps pushing, it may become a hot war.

    Yeah, it's just a link-bomb here, but I spent lots of time writing this up last week and didn't want to write it over here. I'd like to know what you disagree with on what I wrote. I am more optimistic than you, is the gist of it.

    You’re missing the point, you’re assuming a can opener.

    A determined patriot resistance could beat the federal government… okay…

    Somebody credible has to actually start one and a whole bunch more people need to run it while it’s happening. Where are these people?

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    Oh, I get it. You're not a blackpilling CTR bot. You're the real patriot, but quite sensibly waiting for a properly notarized invitation. Real patriots don't overlook watermarks.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Don't take this as scolding, as it's not, 27-y/o, but it sounds like you didn't read it all, especially the last two posts. Let me explain the gist of it quickly (if possible).

    You are assuming a static situation economically. I believe the debt bubbles that are being inflated will crash down on us soon enough (no, I can't predict which year). If you don't buy this, then your point is somewhat well taken (see my next short comment, though). The young alt-right, conservatives, what-have-you who don't now have time to come out for protests and riots due to jobs, per commenters above, and, separately, the hope of keeping those jobs, may change their ways very quickly at some point. When many realize that they don't have very much to lose, and others follow, there could be an army of these guys, and the leaders will appear.

    The young people really can learn something from the 1960's, things like:
    There are 10,000 of us out here - they can't arrest us all - no place to put us.
    I don't care about some silly arrest on my record. If the hiring manager worries about this, he won't have anybody to work this job.
    Chicks dig the real rebels. Who are the real rebels nowadays, the cntrl-left who have been the establishment for 2 or 3 decades already, or me, the guy who says "fuck this system!"?
    Masks can work both ways.
    Smoke bombs.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Now, while writing all this, please keep in mind that a real war, in the short and medium run, is a really bad thing for most people. I don't relish it, but the cntrl-left Commies have been pushing so hard for so long. I don't think the young useful idiots really know what war entails (at least those in America). About this, though:

    Somebody credible has to actually start one and a whole bunch more people need to run it while it’s happening. Where are these people?
     
    As ubiquitous and pervasive as the surveillance is now, I don't know how an organized group of patriots of more than a few dozen can operate. Just from people I know, there are plenty who nobody would ever know are ready to fight against the Globalist, Orwellian nightmare that seem to be coming. I doubt they'd write on comment boards about it. It's still a big country, 27-y/o.

    The "People of the Gun" are in the scores of millions. Right now, they would rather not start anything. Any spark could change that, as most people are just followers, but not necessarily cowards. Like I said, it's not a static situation.
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  113. This is utter bullshit:

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  114. @snorlax

    For example, he could use the military to help patrol the border.
     
    The Posse Comitatus Act forbids this.

    And he could step up workplace enforcement.
     
    He is. The problem is there aren’t nearly enough (and Dems+cucks are fighting tooth and nail to block funding for any more) ICE agents and immigration judges; I saw the other day that the backlog of existing(!) removal cases is something like 200 years.

    “The Posse Comitatus Act forbids this.”

    No, it doesn’t. Guarding the border is not a matter of domestic law enforcement. It is and always has been a military matter, and is a valid use of the the militia or even of the US military forces.

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  115. @J.Ross
    Obama got plenty done facing a Republican Congress. He had the rest of the government on his side but it seems like Congress is fake, it just lends the appearance of struggle and legitimacy to foregone conclusions. There will be some kind of an answer. Meanwhile we need to keep an eye on the Parkland Players and their upcoming psyop at the Capitol.

    “Obama got plenty done facing a Republican Congress.”

    That’s because he had most of the GOP congress on his side. They are still on his side. The GOP is going to introduce all of the bills that the dems weren’t able to get passed regarding gun confiscation. Just watch.

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  116. J.Ross says: • Website
    @27 year old

    A Democratic Congress brings the civil war closer.
     
    "The Civil War" (tm) is already happening.

    Not sure why you think it's a good thing either. Why do you want to escalate a war we're already losing? It's not going to go the way you think it is.

    We have a lot of hardware and we have a lot of privates (even more generals, in their own minds at least) but we have no leadership.

    Who are the squad leaders, lieutenants and colonels of the White team? Who exists that you, personally, would follow into combat?

    Meanwhile there's an antifa in every major city who in 5 minutes of texting can come up with several guys that will all take a bat to your head in broad daylight. And the blacks who don't have to text message, they can just walk down to the corner and come up with soldiers who have killed before and will happily do it again.

    And the enemy has massive representation in the government, police force leadership, media, judges, etc etc etc.

    Every single GOP-er would condemn a White paramilitary group. Every single one. Zero institutional support.

    Robert E Lee was in charge of the US military academy before he went with Virginia. The CSA leadership were all US Army officers before secession.

    George Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, etc etc, were among the richest and most powerful men in the colonies before they started their revolution.

    Do you get the point yet?

    >Shut up or else we’ll beat you up
    Room-temperature carbs, bro.
    >Antifa is a real thing
    Antifa are property-destroying hooligans who exist only where the police department has been compromised and is physically present to protect Antifa. In such a situation I’d be much more worried about the cops. But I don’t live in San Jose or Charlottesville. Furthermore, despite the media, ordinary people are seeing Antifa antics.
    >You are threatened, therefore acquiesce, so you can immediately suffer the thing you were threatened by.
    Much logic, very sense. But we can’t all be of French heritage.
    Real blood | not mere tapwater | (nor Flint tapwater) | in | and maybe from | our veins flows | And we die | so that we can be born again | as lasting works | that an Antifa | hooligan | or a SXSW attendee | cannot | conceive, | begin, or | spell.

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  117. J.Ross says: • Website
    @27 year old
    You're missing the point, you're assuming a can opener.

    A determined patriot resistance could beat the federal government... okay...

    Somebody credible has to actually start one and a whole bunch more people need to run it while it's happening. Where are these people?

    Oh, I get it. You’re not a blackpilling CTR bot. You’re the real patriot, but quite sensibly waiting for a properly notarized invitation. Real patriots don’t overlook watermarks.

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    Look nerd

    This isn't blackpilling

    It's an instruction manual

    You want a "civil war" (despite not realizing that you're already in one)

    Here's you go, step 1: how many guys can you call right now that will go do violence with you?

    Zero?

    Once you can get that up to a respectable number, start thinking about who has some power and resources that might be willing to lend to your cause -- what can you offer them? How are they going to be better off backing you than by sticking with the system, the status quo?
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  118. J.Ross says: • Website
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    Citizenship is a nominalism. You can plop me down in Armenia, teach me Armenian, give me Armenian citizenship. Doesn't make me Armenian other than as an administrative designation.

    If you want Republican Party policy, you need Republican Party demographics.

    Right, there is one huge undiscussed political fact of the moment: whites are tribalizing, and are still majority enough that when they vote as whites, they win, and in numbers big enough to prevent cheating. There is no strategy, rhetorical device, or belly-flopping concession the GOP has that can touch this.

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    Right, there is one huge undiscussed political fact of the moment: whites are tribalizing, and are still majority enough that when they vote as whites, they win, and in numbers big enough to prevent cheating.
     
    This is a great point. However, the consequence of this is the opposite of what you want to imply. In order for the increased solidarity of white voters to have any consequence, there has to be a vehicle to coalesce around. Fortunately for us, in America there is such a vehicle, it's called the Republican party.

    I forget the exact numbers but one important fact of the 2016 election was that Trump only did a point or two better among white voters than Romney in 2012. For all the college-educated voters Trump hemorrhaged with his buffonery, he picked up a little more non-educated white voters, and furthermore got them exactly where he needed to win.

    Therefore, going forward the model should be clear, or at least it is for me: build an agenda and credibility for the hidden voters Trump successfully brought out of the woodwork, and at the same time retain and expand the traditional GOP base, by getting rid of Trump himself and his gratuitous buffoonery and stupidity.
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  119. MEH 0910 says:

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    It just keeps getting worse and worse.

    The Trump administration has been far more disastrous than I could have ever imagined possible.

    John "Invade-the-world" Bolton and Larry "Invite-the-world" Kudlow are exactly what I thought I was voting against.

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  120. Berty says:
    @Bragadocious
    Yeah, that Twittering . You guys need to stop obsessing about his tweets. If you don't like them, don't read them. Personally, I love tweets like this.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/976765417908776963

    It’s swell that you love them. Guess what? Everyone else hates them. I’m somewhere in between.

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  121. Corvinus says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    Citizenship is a nominalism. You can plop me down in Armenia, teach me Armenian, give me Armenian citizenship. Doesn't make me Armenian other than as an administrative designation.

    If you want Republican Party policy, you need Republican Party demographics.

    “Citizenship is a nominalism. You can plop me down in Armenia, teach me Armenian, give me Armenian citizenship. Doesn’t make me Armenian other than as an administrative designation.”

    The same argument could be made for ANY immigrant group that came to America–the Irish, the Germans, the Italians, the Slavs. Except they married within or outside their ethnic group, sired offspring, and immersed themselves in culture and society for generations. That makes a people. That is the history of America.

    Now, if you want to go back, then go back.

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    Corvinus,

    What is different now? Think!

    Regards,
    P. Y.
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  122. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/976948306927607810

    It just keeps getting worse and worse.

    The Trump administration has been far more disastrous than I could have ever imagined possible.

    John “Invade-the-world” Bolton and Larry “Invite-the-world” Kudlow are exactly what I thought I was voting against.

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  123. @Corvinus
    "Citizenship is a nominalism. You can plop me down in Armenia, teach me Armenian, give me Armenian citizenship. Doesn’t make me Armenian other than as an administrative designation."

    The same argument could be made for ANY immigrant group that came to America--the Irish, the Germans, the Italians, the Slavs. Except they married within or outside their ethnic group, sired offspring, and immersed themselves in culture and society for generations. That makes a people. That is the history of America.

    Now, if you want to go back, then go back.

    Corvinus,

    What is different now? Think!

    Regards,
    P. Y.

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  124. Hibernian says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    Citizenship is a nominalism. You can plop me down in Armenia, teach me Armenian, give me Armenian citizenship. Doesn't make me Armenian other than as an administrative designation.

    If you want Republican Party policy, you need Republican Party demographics.

    We are not Armenians. The problem comes when new immigrants come in faster than old ones can be assimilated.

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  125. Hibernian says:
    @MarkinLA
    Why persuade anybody? Put the Army Corp of Engineers in charge of building the wall given that he has the power under the Constitution to defend the borders. If some court issues and injunction, ignore it.

    You still have to aquire the land. Commandeering it as an emergency military measure won’t fly.

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  126. @J.Ross
    After this omnibus bill and the submission on gun rights what Republican voter is going to be excited to vote?

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    Neither Trump nor my putative Republican governor, "Sorry" Charlie Baker, will get my vote next election. I expected the reality of their actual performance not exactly matching up with their campaign promises, but given that the choice seems to be for the state/country to die slowly or quickly, I'm voting for quickly.
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  127. @27 year old
    You're missing the point, you're assuming a can opener.

    A determined patriot resistance could beat the federal government... okay...

    Somebody credible has to actually start one and a whole bunch more people need to run it while it's happening. Where are these people?

    Don’t take this as scolding, as it’s not, 27-y/o, but it sounds like you didn’t read it all, especially the last two posts. Let me explain the gist of it quickly (if possible).

    You are assuming a static situation economically. I believe the debt bubbles that are being inflated will crash down on us soon enough (no, I can’t predict which year). If you don’t buy this, then your point is somewhat well taken (see my next short comment, though). The young alt-right, conservatives, what-have-you who don’t now have time to come out for protests and riots due to jobs, per commenters above, and, separately, the hope of keeping those jobs, may change their ways very quickly at some point. When many realize that they don’t have very much to lose, and others follow, there could be an army of these guys, and the leaders will appear.

    The young people really can learn something from the 1960′s, things like:
    There are 10,000 of us out here – they can’t arrest us all – no place to put us.
    I don’t care about some silly arrest on my record. If the hiring manager worries about this, he won’t have anybody to work this job.
    Chicks dig the real rebels. Who are the real rebels nowadays, the cntrl-left who have been the establishment for 2 or 3 decades already, or me, the guy who says “fuck this system!”?
    Masks can work both ways.
    Smoke bombs.

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    I'm saying: guys with nothing to lose are unlikely to be good at leading a revolution.

    They can't navigate getting a decent job and making a family, but they're gonna mastermind the overthrow of a government? Okay...

    People with nothing to lose can be great revolutionary fighters, if they have already successful and well-capitalized people to direct and equip them. These leaders have to have something to offer the NTL-ers. Fight for me and you will get (some reward). Guys with nothing to lose generally cant do this, they don't have anything.

    The 1960s don't apply to us. Team White has zero institutional support, zero friendly media, and zero foreign support. Maybe we could get some, but we have to have something to trade to get it.

    The 1960s movements also were not led by people with nothing to lose. Just about every significant figure was a kid from a wealthy well connected family. They had every likelihood of great lives ahead of them.

    The confederacy was run by the richest and most powerful people in the south, many had high positions in the federal government. The founding fathers of the American revolution, same thing. Ben Franklin was probably the most famous individual in pre-revolution America, on top of being one of the wealthiest.
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  128. @27 year old
    You're missing the point, you're assuming a can opener.

    A determined patriot resistance could beat the federal government... okay...

    Somebody credible has to actually start one and a whole bunch more people need to run it while it's happening. Where are these people?

    Now, while writing all this, please keep in mind that a real war, in the short and medium run, is a really bad thing for most people. I don’t relish it, but the cntrl-left Commies have been pushing so hard for so long. I don’t think the young useful idiots really know what war entails (at least those in America). About this, though:

    Somebody credible has to actually start one and a whole bunch more people need to run it while it’s happening. Where are these people?

    As ubiquitous and pervasive as the surveillance is now, I don’t know how an organized group of patriots of more than a few dozen can operate. Just from people I know, there are plenty who nobody would ever know are ready to fight against the Globalist, Orwellian nightmare that seem to be coming. I doubt they’d write on comment boards about it. It’s still a big country, 27-y/o.

    The “People of the Gun” are in the scores of millions. Right now, they would rather not start anything. Any spark could change that, as most people are just followers, but not necessarily cowards. Like I said, it’s not a static situation.

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  129. @MarkinLA
    Trump knows how to make "deals" in the business world where both sides want a deal. That is part of his problem. He thinks that what was wrong with Washington was that people just didn't know how to make deals. Trump stupidly thought that he would come up with a deal that gave everybody something and everybody would jump at it. He didn't realize that the people who voted him in are sick of "deals" where the donors get what they want and the voters get screwed again. That game of self-negating clauses stuck into bills that make sure only one side wins is why there is no support for deals in Trump's constituency.

    He has never had to twist a few balls to get what he wants and that is what he needs to do. He has more power than he realizes but he won't lead. He needs to push GOP Congressmen to make things happen on the floor of Congress but he won't. As I continue to harp on - the individual components of immigration reform like ending the visa lottery are far more popular with the voters than comprehensive immigration reform, yet there is no attempt to get a vote on that single issue and make politicians take a stand on that.

    The reason Congress wants comprehensive immigration reform is because it gives amnesty a better chance of sneaking through and every voter knows it.

    AGREED, Mark, and with all your comments in this thread. (Amazing how we are at 180-degrees on other certain topics!). Let me add this though:

    This bully pulpit of Trump’s could be used much more intelligently, if he’d lay off the juvenile tweets and do some thinking (or even hire the right guy to do this thinking). Look, pick out the congressmen and senators of the GOP that are the problem, Do some serious hounding of them (yes tweets’d be OK in this regard) and shaming of them to the public, his voters. Let them know exactly who is obstructing this bill and this other one. Let the voters know exactly who needs to be primaried out this year to get rid of anyone that doesn’t play ball. It could be a simple website that shows a 2018 electoral strategy with explanations.

    For the obstructionists and the few guys already playing ball, put their names in lights – let the public know what their part is. That’s called being a leader. It would have the effect of bringing out lots of R-votes, because people like knowing they are coming out for a specific reason (“Get rid of the infernal faggot Lindsey Grahmnesty!”. OK, that’s ’20, I know – “we’re not supporting this guy, he voted against the border barrier” etc. etc.). There are some tweets I could get behind.

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  130. @Bragadocious
    Yeah, that Twittering . You guys need to stop obsessing about his tweets. If you don't like them, don't read them. Personally, I love tweets like this.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/976765417908776963

    Sorry, Bragadocious, but unlike Berty, I am not in the middle. This crap is juvenile, like something from a 10 y/o at the playground. All I think when I read this stuff (2nd-hand) is “There’s 2 minutes of this guy’s schedule that were not used to figure out who we need to lean on and what judges should be encouraged to be impeached, what positions in the bureaucracy should have conservatives hired in for to shake things up, etc”.

    Per my comment above this one (reply to LA-Mark), his tweets could serve a good purpose. This version of the bully pulpit could be used to get the voters motivated by letting them know exactly who should be thrown out of office for obstructing the plans these voters put Trump in for.

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  131. Boethiuss says:
    @MarkinLA
    The GOP has been around in its current form since before the Civil War. Maybe we should be working helping them out and not worrying about Trump so much, because they are going to be around long after Trump is gone. And we’ll probably be needing them then as well.

    Isn't the goal of the GOP leadership to do nothing and wait Trump out so everything reverts back to normal? I thought the idea was to make the GOP more like Trump. How does reflexively supporting the GOP do that?

    I thought the idea was to make the GOP more like Trump.

    This is not a good formulation.

    For the most part, it’s a simplistic and juvenile mentality to go on about beating down the GOPe and the cucks and RINOs and the usual. But even if it sounds innocuous for you, this is even worse.

    Even if we were motivated to antagonize the GOPe, we still wouldn’t want the GOP to be more like Trump. That would mean the GOP is about keeping Jared out of jail, real estate scams in Florida, and hush money to adult movie actresses. That is what Trump is about, and the GOP ought, supposedly, to be like him.

    We need the institutional party to have more credibility to implementing a populist agenda. For that we need supporters to help the party in that regard while retaining its competence and reputational capital. Emphasis on supporters. It has to be people with some loyalty to stay firm through the inevitable problems.

    Would you trust a Mexican gov’t functionary to tell the US what our immigration policy ought to be? Well, Republicans think the same way.

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  132. Boethiuss says:
    @J.Ross
    After this omnibus bill and the submission on gun rights what Republican voter is going to be excited to vote?

    After this omnibus bill and the submission on gun rights what Republican voter is going to be excited to vote?

    All of them, I hope. If we’re going to sell out our loyalty to the Republican Party over what’s in the omnibus funding bill, we deserve to go the way of the dodo bird.

    It’s obvious if you can about the likes of Tiny Duck for a second and what his motivations are likely to be. Do you suppose, for one second, that he cares about the difference between John McCain and Tom Cotton? Of course not. If gets his way, we’re going to get rid of Donald Trump and Tom Cotton and John McCain and Mike Lee and Lindsey Graham and Laura Ingraham and Samuel Alito and Rush Limbaugh, etc, etc, etc.

    He is empowered toward those ends by the increase in enthusiasm and motivation of Democratic-leaning voters. But here’s the thing. If those voters all go the polls with a head full of steam and motivation, and they lose anyway, that puts a big damper on things. The won’t be as motivated in the future. We won’t have to fight them nearly so hard again.

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    We won’t have to fight them nearly so hard again.
     
    So that's why Bill Clinton lost, because of Dukakis? This is objectively wrong, and completely indefensible coming from a guy who wants to be the Party Active. Electorates do not avoid voting because they lost last time; if anything, electorates do not remember their last vote (or care that much about it). They vote on if the economy is good, how the incumbents are performing (note the tense), and maybe one or two really big current issues.
    For example, Trump was elected to send a message to neocon and establishmentarian scum, not to behave like a Democrat. Now that he has signed the omnibus bill ("never again," he says) there actually is hope for a blue wave. There wasn't before, Democrats were in all kinds of trouble. GOP'ers have snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.
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  133. Boethiuss says:
    @MarkinLA
    For example, there’s polls that supposedly show that 60-80-whatever percent of Americans favor normalizing the DACA participants.

    And no attempts to attack the legitimacy of those polls. Nobody ever follows up with questions about their parents if they are normalized. No attempts is made to show exactly how special the Dreamers are (only 35% have high school diplomas from some of the crappiest schools in America). They also use push polls and don't ask the question in any way that would give a negative result such as "Do you really care if the DACAs are deported".

    The bottom line is that nobody is going to change his vote over the Dreamers but the media makes it appear that it is issue number 1 in the country.

    And no attempts to attack the legitimacy of those polls.

    Well no, in a bank shot way Trump and the GOP have attacked the legitimacy of those polls. They simply called Schumer’s bluff over the matter. And that part worked. It’s just that other parts of Trump and his erratic persona and volatile governance are turning the voters off, the taking the GOP down with him.

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  134. Boethiuss says:
    @J.Ross
    Right, there is one huge undiscussed political fact of the moment: whites are tribalizing, and are still majority enough that when they vote as whites, they win, and in numbers big enough to prevent cheating. There is no strategy, rhetorical device, or belly-flopping concession the GOP has that can touch this.

    Right, there is one huge undiscussed political fact of the moment: whites are tribalizing, and are still majority enough that when they vote as whites, they win, and in numbers big enough to prevent cheating.

    This is a great point. However, the consequence of this is the opposite of what you want to imply. In order for the increased solidarity of white voters to have any consequence, there has to be a vehicle to coalesce around. Fortunately for us, in America there is such a vehicle, it’s called the Republican party.

    I forget the exact numbers but one important fact of the 2016 election was that Trump only did a point or two better among white voters than Romney in 2012. For all the college-educated voters Trump hemorrhaged with his buffonery, he picked up a little more non-educated white voters, and furthermore got them exactly where he needed to win.

    Therefore, going forward the model should be clear, or at least it is for me: build an agenda and credibility for the hidden voters Trump successfully brought out of the woodwork, and at the same time retain and expand the traditional GOP base, by getting rid of Trump himself and his gratuitous buffoonery and stupidity.

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    In an ideal world, yes, the GOP candidate would be a straight-arrow combat veteran named Marcus Aurelius who sees that $100 electoral bill lying on the floor--a deep disquiet about globalism--and grabs it. Our system is not really set up to reward such people, so we get a brash outsider who, while derided as buffoonish and stupid, somehow manages to beat a dozen professional politicians and the Big Enchilada herself.

    Why isn't the Republican Party, with two branches of government in its control, riding this wave? Again, structurally, they're no longer set up for it. They constantly punch right, and dislike Trump and his voters' agenda even more than that of their Democratic opponents. The Republican strategy seems to be to get sinecures for individuals in the form of safe legislative seats and a place in the permanent bureaucracy rather than actual governance.

    The rallying point is Trump, not the Party. And if the Party doesn't rally then it's done.
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  135. @Boethiuss

    Right, there is one huge undiscussed political fact of the moment: whites are tribalizing, and are still majority enough that when they vote as whites, they win, and in numbers big enough to prevent cheating.
     
    This is a great point. However, the consequence of this is the opposite of what you want to imply. In order for the increased solidarity of white voters to have any consequence, there has to be a vehicle to coalesce around. Fortunately for us, in America there is such a vehicle, it's called the Republican party.

    I forget the exact numbers but one important fact of the 2016 election was that Trump only did a point or two better among white voters than Romney in 2012. For all the college-educated voters Trump hemorrhaged with his buffonery, he picked up a little more non-educated white voters, and furthermore got them exactly where he needed to win.

    Therefore, going forward the model should be clear, or at least it is for me: build an agenda and credibility for the hidden voters Trump successfully brought out of the woodwork, and at the same time retain and expand the traditional GOP base, by getting rid of Trump himself and his gratuitous buffoonery and stupidity.

    In an ideal world, yes, the GOP candidate would be a straight-arrow combat veteran named Marcus Aurelius who sees that $100 electoral bill lying on the floor–a deep disquiet about globalism–and grabs it. Our system is not really set up to reward such people, so we get a brash outsider who, while derided as buffoonish and stupid, somehow manages to beat a dozen professional politicians and the Big Enchilada herself.

    Why isn’t the Republican Party, with two branches of government in its control, riding this wave? Again, structurally, they’re no longer set up for it. They constantly punch right, and dislike Trump and his voters’ agenda even more than that of their Democratic opponents. The Republican strategy seems to be to get sinecures for individuals in the form of safe legislative seats and a place in the permanent bureaucracy rather than actual governance.

    The rallying point is Trump, not the Party. And if the Party doesn’t rally then it’s done.

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    Why isn’t the Republican Party, with two branches of government in its control, riding this wave?
     
    This is Trump. Most of us here on iSteve don't want to hear it, but that's the way it is. If it weren't for Trump, we would be. The voters aren't paying any attention to the fact that unemployment is below 5%, or North Korea might be denuclearizing, or any of several things that would help the political standing of Trump and other Republicans, because Trump can't go one news cycle without sending an inflammatory tweet or having an associate indicted by the Independent Counsel.

    Again, structurally, they’re no longer set up for it. They constantly punch right, and dislike Trump and his voters’ agenda even more than that of their Democratic opponents. The Republican strategy seems to be to get sinecures for individuals in the form of safe legislative seats and a place in the permanent bureaucracy rather than actual governance.
     
    The GOP Establishment has its problems, but they're not the ones causing the current poor standing politically, for the reasons I mentioned above.

    The rallying point is Trump, not the Party. And if the Party doesn’t rally then it’s done.
     
    That's exactly right, and that's a huge mistake for us (no pun intended).

    We need to rally around the Party. The Party has strength, depth, and longevity, and Trump has none of these. Now typically this is where the Jack Hanson/Scott Adams types invoke their theory that Trump is actually doing ok. We can discount his adverse standing in the polls because of his unconventional profile. And that theory is likely right in that his situation is not as bad as another guy would be with the same numbers. But, and this is important, it's still bad.

    We need to quit making excuses and rationalizations for Trump, and start finding reasons to support Mitch McConnell and Devin Nunes, and figure out a working relationship with them instead.

    This doesn't mean we have to start trashing Trump, or dump him, but it does mean that he can't be the rallying point any more.
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  136. Brutusale says:
    @Jim Don Bob
    https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/976874550112768001

    Neither Trump nor my putative Republican governor, “Sorry” Charlie Baker, will get my vote next election. I expected the reality of their actual performance not exactly matching up with their campaign promises, but given that the choice seems to be for the state/country to die slowly or quickly, I’m voting for quickly.

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  137. @Achmed E. Newman
    Don't take this as scolding, as it's not, 27-y/o, but it sounds like you didn't read it all, especially the last two posts. Let me explain the gist of it quickly (if possible).

    You are assuming a static situation economically. I believe the debt bubbles that are being inflated will crash down on us soon enough (no, I can't predict which year). If you don't buy this, then your point is somewhat well taken (see my next short comment, though). The young alt-right, conservatives, what-have-you who don't now have time to come out for protests and riots due to jobs, per commenters above, and, separately, the hope of keeping those jobs, may change their ways very quickly at some point. When many realize that they don't have very much to lose, and others follow, there could be an army of these guys, and the leaders will appear.

    The young people really can learn something from the 1960's, things like:
    There are 10,000 of us out here - they can't arrest us all - no place to put us.
    I don't care about some silly arrest on my record. If the hiring manager worries about this, he won't have anybody to work this job.
    Chicks dig the real rebels. Who are the real rebels nowadays, the cntrl-left who have been the establishment for 2 or 3 decades already, or me, the guy who says "fuck this system!"?
    Masks can work both ways.
    Smoke bombs.

    I’m saying: guys with nothing to lose are unlikely to be good at leading a revolution.

    They can’t navigate getting a decent job and making a family, but they’re gonna mastermind the overthrow of a government? Okay…

    People with nothing to lose can be great revolutionary fighters, if they have already successful and well-capitalized people to direct and equip them. These leaders have to have something to offer the NTL-ers. Fight for me and you will get (some reward). Guys with nothing to lose generally cant do this, they don’t have anything.

    The 1960s don’t apply to us. Team White has zero institutional support, zero friendly media, and zero foreign support. Maybe we could get some, but we have to have something to trade to get it.

    The 1960s movements also were not led by people with nothing to lose. Just about every significant figure was a kid from a wealthy well connected family. They had every likelihood of great lives ahead of them.

    The confederacy was run by the richest and most powerful people in the south, many had high positions in the federal government. The founding fathers of the American revolution, same thing. Ben Franklin was probably the most famous individual in pre-revolution America, on top of being one of the wealthiest.

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    Nah, you didn't read my posts. I'm not demanding you do, but I'm also not going to write it all here either. Also Steve did not let a couple of my comments to you get through yet.

    Forget it, then. but you'r probably wrong. You don't seem to know who many of your countrymen are. "Team White" has lots going for it but just doesn't know it yet.
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  138. @J.Ross
    Oh, I get it. You're not a blackpilling CTR bot. You're the real patriot, but quite sensibly waiting for a properly notarized invitation. Real patriots don't overlook watermarks.

    Look nerd

    This isn’t blackpilling

    It’s an instruction manual

    You want a “civil war” (despite not realizing that you’re already in one)

    Here’s you go, step 1: how many guys can you call right now that will go do violence with you?

    Zero?

    Once you can get that up to a respectable number, start thinking about who has some power and resources that might be willing to lend to your cause — what can you offer them? How are they going to be better off backing you than by sticking with the system, the status quo?

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  139. @27 year old
    I'm saying: guys with nothing to lose are unlikely to be good at leading a revolution.

    They can't navigate getting a decent job and making a family, but they're gonna mastermind the overthrow of a government? Okay...

    People with nothing to lose can be great revolutionary fighters, if they have already successful and well-capitalized people to direct and equip them. These leaders have to have something to offer the NTL-ers. Fight for me and you will get (some reward). Guys with nothing to lose generally cant do this, they don't have anything.

    The 1960s don't apply to us. Team White has zero institutional support, zero friendly media, and zero foreign support. Maybe we could get some, but we have to have something to trade to get it.

    The 1960s movements also were not led by people with nothing to lose. Just about every significant figure was a kid from a wealthy well connected family. They had every likelihood of great lives ahead of them.

    The confederacy was run by the richest and most powerful people in the south, many had high positions in the federal government. The founding fathers of the American revolution, same thing. Ben Franklin was probably the most famous individual in pre-revolution America, on top of being one of the wealthiest.

    Nah, you didn’t read my posts. I’m not demanding you do, but I’m also not going to write it all here either. Also Steve did not let a couple of my comments to you get through yet.

    Forget it, then. but you’r probably wrong. You don’t seem to know who many of your countrymen are. “Team White” has lots going for it but just doesn’t know it yet.

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  140. Boethiuss says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    In an ideal world, yes, the GOP candidate would be a straight-arrow combat veteran named Marcus Aurelius who sees that $100 electoral bill lying on the floor--a deep disquiet about globalism--and grabs it. Our system is not really set up to reward such people, so we get a brash outsider who, while derided as buffoonish and stupid, somehow manages to beat a dozen professional politicians and the Big Enchilada herself.

    Why isn't the Republican Party, with two branches of government in its control, riding this wave? Again, structurally, they're no longer set up for it. They constantly punch right, and dislike Trump and his voters' agenda even more than that of their Democratic opponents. The Republican strategy seems to be to get sinecures for individuals in the form of safe legislative seats and a place in the permanent bureaucracy rather than actual governance.

    The rallying point is Trump, not the Party. And if the Party doesn't rally then it's done.

    Why isn’t the Republican Party, with two branches of government in its control, riding this wave?

    This is Trump. Most of us here on iSteve don’t want to hear it, but that’s the way it is. If it weren’t for Trump, we would be. The voters aren’t paying any attention to the fact that unemployment is below 5%, or North Korea might be denuclearizing, or any of several things that would help the political standing of Trump and other Republicans, because Trump can’t go one news cycle without sending an inflammatory tweet or having an associate indicted by the Independent Counsel.

    Again, structurally, they’re no longer set up for it. They constantly punch right, and dislike Trump and his voters’ agenda even more than that of their Democratic opponents. The Republican strategy seems to be to get sinecures for individuals in the form of safe legislative seats and a place in the permanent bureaucracy rather than actual governance.

    The GOP Establishment has its problems, but they’re not the ones causing the current poor standing politically, for the reasons I mentioned above.

    The rallying point is Trump, not the Party. And if the Party doesn’t rally then it’s done.

    That’s exactly right, and that’s a huge mistake for us (no pun intended).

    We need to rally around the Party. The Party has strength, depth, and longevity, and Trump has none of these. Now typically this is where the Jack Hanson/Scott Adams types invoke their theory that Trump is actually doing ok. We can discount his adverse standing in the polls because of his unconventional profile. And that theory is likely right in that his situation is not as bad as another guy would be with the same numbers. But, and this is important, it’s still bad.

    We need to quit making excuses and rationalizations for Trump, and start finding reasons to support Mitch McConnell and Devin Nunes, and figure out a working relationship with them instead.

    This doesn’t mean we have to start trashing Trump, or dump him, but it does mean that he can’t be the rallying point any more.

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    We need to rally around the Party
     
    The Party that wants us to lose our jobs, lose our rights, lose our homes, lose our families, and die violently? What year do you think it is? What on earth would it take for the Party to fake any conservative values? I almost want them to come out on Saturday embracing the Parkland Players because you know what happens then.
    , @J.Ross
    Oh hey, what's this?

    Gun Control in the Omnibus

    The bill contains a gun control provision (Fix NICS) which would strip millions of veterans, seniors, medical marijuana smokers, traffic ticket violators, and others of their constitutional rights -- without substantive due process.

    Earlier this year, the House leadership team guaranteed that the anti-gun Fix NICS bill would not move separately, without reciprocity added.

    But that was a lie. And now, many pro-gun congressmen are very upset.

    “What we were told by our leadership is directly opposite what is happening today,” said Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH).

    The bill also contained a “school safety proposal,” which prohibits money from being used for guns and gun training.

    So none of the Omnibus funds can be used to arm teachers -- or school resource officers, such as the hero who stopped a shooting at a Maryland school this week.
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  141. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Boethiuss


    After this omnibus bill and the submission on gun rights what Republican voter is going to be excited to vote?
     
    All of them, I hope. If we're going to sell out our loyalty to the Republican Party over what's in the omnibus funding bill, we deserve to go the way of the dodo bird.

    It's obvious if you can about the likes of Tiny Duck for a second and what his motivations are likely to be. Do you suppose, for one second, that he cares about the difference between John McCain and Tom Cotton? Of course not. If gets his way, we're going to get rid of Donald Trump and Tom Cotton and John McCain and Mike Lee and Lindsey Graham and Laura Ingraham and Samuel Alito and Rush Limbaugh, etc, etc, etc.

    He is empowered toward those ends by the increase in enthusiasm and motivation of Democratic-leaning voters. But here's the thing. If those voters all go the polls with a head full of steam and motivation, and they lose anyway, that puts a big damper on things. The won't be as motivated in the future. We won't have to fight them nearly so hard again.

    We won’t have to fight them nearly so hard again.

    So that’s why Bill Clinton lost, because of Dukakis? This is objectively wrong, and completely indefensible coming from a guy who wants to be the Party Active. Electorates do not avoid voting because they lost last time; if anything, electorates do not remember their last vote (or care that much about it). They vote on if the economy is good, how the incumbents are performing (note the tense), and maybe one or two really big current issues.
    For example, Trump was elected to send a message to neocon and establishmentarian scum, not to behave like a Democrat. Now that he has signed the omnibus bill (“never again,” he says) there actually is hope for a blue wave. There wasn’t before, Democrats were in all kinds of trouble. GOP’ers have snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.

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    So that’s why Bill Clinton lost, because of Dukakis? This is objectively wrong, and completely indefensible coming from a guy who wants to be the Party Active. Electorates do not avoid voting because they lost last time; if anything, electorates do not remember their last vote (or care that much about it). They vote on if the economy is good, how the incumbents are performing (note the tense), and maybe one or two really big current issues.
     
    I'm not talking about Clinton or Dukakis, I'm talking about they way things are now. I put a link to some charts further upthread, it might have even been in response to you.

    In any event, the pussy hats, the antifa, the Mueller-Russia hype, PA-18, all of it is part of the same whole, which is that the Left is desperate. They have lost a lot of power that they think is by right theirs, and they are flailing about every which way they can think of to get it back. And even beyond the pussy hats and the rest of it, the primary avenue for their energy is the determination to regain as much overt political power as they possibly can for the next election, November 2018.

    Let's emphasize again, I'm talking about this election season, 2018, not 1988, not in general. According to the charts, in PA-18 special election, the Dem candidate ran at 80% of the Presidential year baseline, the GOP guy ran at 50% of the Presidential year baseline. Their side is desperately motivated to go vote, our side isn't.

    If somehow they don't take over the House this November all that energy will be defeated by the sense of futility. It is a huge, huge opportunity to beat the other side when they are in a particularly strong state of desperation and motivation. If somehow, some way we can beat them then, what comes after that is resignation. Ie, you can work a phone bank or knock on doors if you want to, but the Republicans control Congress, that's just the Way Things Are.
    , @Boethiuss

    Now that he has signed the omnibus bill (“never again,” he says) there actually is hope for a blue wave. There wasn’t before, Democrats were in all kinds of trouble. GOP’ers have snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.
     
    Oh my word. JRoss, who supposedly is aware of Trump's 40% approval rating, Democrats leading generic ballots by 10%, winning special elections in Trump-favorable districts, nonetheless could not see the possibility for a blue wave this November until President Trump signed the omnibus spending bill. Jesus Christ, can't anybody here play this game?
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  142. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Boethiuss

    Why isn’t the Republican Party, with two branches of government in its control, riding this wave?
     
    This is Trump. Most of us here on iSteve don't want to hear it, but that's the way it is. If it weren't for Trump, we would be. The voters aren't paying any attention to the fact that unemployment is below 5%, or North Korea might be denuclearizing, or any of several things that would help the political standing of Trump and other Republicans, because Trump can't go one news cycle without sending an inflammatory tweet or having an associate indicted by the Independent Counsel.

    Again, structurally, they’re no longer set up for it. They constantly punch right, and dislike Trump and his voters’ agenda even more than that of their Democratic opponents. The Republican strategy seems to be to get sinecures for individuals in the form of safe legislative seats and a place in the permanent bureaucracy rather than actual governance.
     
    The GOP Establishment has its problems, but they're not the ones causing the current poor standing politically, for the reasons I mentioned above.

    The rallying point is Trump, not the Party. And if the Party doesn’t rally then it’s done.
     
    That's exactly right, and that's a huge mistake for us (no pun intended).

    We need to rally around the Party. The Party has strength, depth, and longevity, and Trump has none of these. Now typically this is where the Jack Hanson/Scott Adams types invoke their theory that Trump is actually doing ok. We can discount his adverse standing in the polls because of his unconventional profile. And that theory is likely right in that his situation is not as bad as another guy would be with the same numbers. But, and this is important, it's still bad.

    We need to quit making excuses and rationalizations for Trump, and start finding reasons to support Mitch McConnell and Devin Nunes, and figure out a working relationship with them instead.

    This doesn't mean we have to start trashing Trump, or dump him, but it does mean that he can't be the rallying point any more.

    We need to rally around the Party

    The Party that wants us to lose our jobs, lose our rights, lose our homes, lose our families, and die violently? What year do you think it is? What on earth would it take for the Party to fake any conservative values? I almost want them to come out on Saturday embracing the Parkland Players because you know what happens then.

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  143. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Boethiuss

    Why isn’t the Republican Party, with two branches of government in its control, riding this wave?
     
    This is Trump. Most of us here on iSteve don't want to hear it, but that's the way it is. If it weren't for Trump, we would be. The voters aren't paying any attention to the fact that unemployment is below 5%, or North Korea might be denuclearizing, or any of several things that would help the political standing of Trump and other Republicans, because Trump can't go one news cycle without sending an inflammatory tweet or having an associate indicted by the Independent Counsel.

    Again, structurally, they’re no longer set up for it. They constantly punch right, and dislike Trump and his voters’ agenda even more than that of their Democratic opponents. The Republican strategy seems to be to get sinecures for individuals in the form of safe legislative seats and a place in the permanent bureaucracy rather than actual governance.
     
    The GOP Establishment has its problems, but they're not the ones causing the current poor standing politically, for the reasons I mentioned above.

    The rallying point is Trump, not the Party. And if the Party doesn’t rally then it’s done.
     
    That's exactly right, and that's a huge mistake for us (no pun intended).

    We need to rally around the Party. The Party has strength, depth, and longevity, and Trump has none of these. Now typically this is where the Jack Hanson/Scott Adams types invoke their theory that Trump is actually doing ok. We can discount his adverse standing in the polls because of his unconventional profile. And that theory is likely right in that his situation is not as bad as another guy would be with the same numbers. But, and this is important, it's still bad.

    We need to quit making excuses and rationalizations for Trump, and start finding reasons to support Mitch McConnell and Devin Nunes, and figure out a working relationship with them instead.

    This doesn't mean we have to start trashing Trump, or dump him, but it does mean that he can't be the rallying point any more.

    Oh hey, what’s this?

    Gun Control in the Omnibus

    The bill contains a gun control provision (Fix NICS) which would strip millions of veterans, seniors, medical marijuana smokers, traffic ticket violators, and others of their constitutional rights — without substantive due process.

    Earlier this year, the House leadership team guaranteed that the anti-gun Fix NICS bill would not move separately, without reciprocity added.

    But that was a lie. And now, many pro-gun congressmen are very upset.

    “What we were told by our leadership is directly opposite what is happening today,” said Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH).

    The bill also contained a “school safety proposal,” which prohibits money from being used for guns and gun training.

    So none of the Omnibus funds can be used to arm teachers — or school resource officers, such as the hero who stopped a shooting at a Maryland school this week.

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    Oh hey, what’s this?

    Gun Control in the Omnibus
     
    So what of it?

    A year or so back maybe, Steve had a few posts about the logic of "punching up" which is supposedly ok as opposed to "punching down" which isn't. I forget exactly what the point was then, but now at least we should be able to see a pattern of gratuitously trashing people for the fcuk of it, and the negative consequences that follow.

    First there was the sitcom dads from the 70s and 80s, and they were kind of clownish as the head of the family. And it was kind of funny then but now we have to deal with fatherlessness and the lousy childrearing that accompanies that.

    Then it was the "white male" thing, regarding political correctness and originating in academia. At first it was sort of whimsical, yeah, your market research shows that women are more likely to spend household discretionary income for entertainment, but how many of your researchers are anything other than white males.

    And now it's the Republicans. Yeah Republicans do a good job of keeping the lid on spending when a Democrat is President, but elect one of them and it goes through the roof.

    In every case, it's the same thing. First it was funny, then it was annoying, then it was serious as a heart attack. And it happens for the same reasons each time. The things that turn out ok, we take for granted, and the things that don't are somebody else's fault. Well, in reality that's just bullshit. We take it for granted but then when it's gone we bitch like hell.

    To be honest, I haven't been following this omnibus thing very much. From what I've seen, I have no doubt that we booked a loser. So what, there will be another game next week. But it's the Republican Party that keeps us competitive enough to play the game in the first place. Without them, we're fcuked, as we've found out on more than one occasion in the recent past.
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  144. MEH 0910 says:

    Trump Signs Spending Bill, Reversing Veto Threat and Avoiding Government Shutdown

    WASHINGTON — President Trump signed a $1.3 trillion spending bill into law on Friday, avoiding a government shutdown that had suddenly become a possibility when the president vented angrily on Twitter about his frustration with the bipartisan legislation.

    The president abruptly backed down from a Friday morning threat to veto the spending bill in a head-spinning four hours at the White House that left both political parties in Washington reeling and his own aides bewildered about Mr. Trump’s contradictory actions.

    Speaking at the White House, Mr. Trump placed his hand on a stack of budget documents and criticized what he called “this ridiculous situation” — but he said the spending plan was important because it increased money for the military. “As a matter of national security, I have signed this omnibus budget bill,” he said.

    In a rambling and disjointed 20-minute statement from the Diplomatic Reception Room, Mr. Trump denigrated the bill, which was rushed through the House and the Senate by members of his own Republican Party, as “crazy” and vowed to never “sign another bill like this again.”

    “Nobody read it,” Mr. Trump said of the sweeping funding measure drawn up by Republican leaders in the House and the Senate. Echoing criticism from those who voted against the measure, Mr. Trump added, “It’s only hours old.”

    He urged lawmakers to avoid passage of another so-called omnibus bill and to instead pass legislation giving him a line-item veto of spending measures, something that has little support in Congress. He also called on the Senate to eliminate filibusters.

    “I looked very seriously at the veto,” Mr. Trump told reporters. “I was thinking about doing the veto.”

    He also repeatedly vented about Democrats, accusing them of abandoning efforts to protect young immigrants and saying to DACA recipients, “The Republicans are with you.” He also accused Democrats of standing in “tremendous” opposition to a strong military in the United States.

    And Mr. Trump said that Democrats had insisted on domestic spending that he called “bad” or “a waste of money.”

    Yet the president said he signed the spending measure because it includes hundreds of billions of dollars in military spending to ensure that the United States has “by far the strongest military in the world.”

    “We had no choice but to fund our military,” Mr. Trump declared, after at one point reading out loud a series of military programs in the spending bill, including submarines, missile defense systems, tanks, helicopters and warships.

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  145. Boethiuss says:
    @J.Ross
    Oh hey, what's this?

    Gun Control in the Omnibus

    The bill contains a gun control provision (Fix NICS) which would strip millions of veterans, seniors, medical marijuana smokers, traffic ticket violators, and others of their constitutional rights -- without substantive due process.

    Earlier this year, the House leadership team guaranteed that the anti-gun Fix NICS bill would not move separately, without reciprocity added.

    But that was a lie. And now, many pro-gun congressmen are very upset.

    “What we were told by our leadership is directly opposite what is happening today,” said Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH).

    The bill also contained a “school safety proposal,” which prohibits money from being used for guns and gun training.

    So none of the Omnibus funds can be used to arm teachers -- or school resource officers, such as the hero who stopped a shooting at a Maryland school this week.

    Oh hey, what’s this?

    Gun Control in the Omnibus

    So what of it?

    A year or so back maybe, Steve had a few posts about the logic of “punching up” which is supposedly ok as opposed to “punching down” which isn’t. I forget exactly what the point was then, but now at least we should be able to see a pattern of gratuitously trashing people for the fcuk of it, and the negative consequences that follow.

    First there was the sitcom dads from the 70s and 80s, and they were kind of clownish as the head of the family. And it was kind of funny then but now we have to deal with fatherlessness and the lousy childrearing that accompanies that.

    Then it was the “white male” thing, regarding political correctness and originating in academia. At first it was sort of whimsical, yeah, your market research shows that women are more likely to spend household discretionary income for entertainment, but how many of your researchers are anything other than white males.

    And now it’s the Republicans. Yeah Republicans do a good job of keeping the lid on spending when a Democrat is President, but elect one of them and it goes through the roof.

    In every case, it’s the same thing. First it was funny, then it was annoying, then it was serious as a heart attack. And it happens for the same reasons each time. The things that turn out ok, we take for granted, and the things that don’t are somebody else’s fault. Well, in reality that’s just bullshit. We take it for granted but then when it’s gone we bitch like hell.

    To be honest, I haven’t been following this omnibus thing very much. From what I’ve seen, I have no doubt that we booked a loser. So what, there will be another game next week. But it’s the Republican Party that keeps us competitive enough to play the game in the first place. Without them, we’re fcuked, as we’ve found out on more than one occasion in the recent past.

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    Are you being satirical? "Hey bro, it's not cool to criticize the government! Those people have feelings too! Let's not punch down, or up, let's punch sideways!" Is this really what you're saying?
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  146. J.Ross says: • Website
    @Boethiuss

    Oh hey, what’s this?

    Gun Control in the Omnibus
     
    So what of it?

    A year or so back maybe, Steve had a few posts about the logic of "punching up" which is supposedly ok as opposed to "punching down" which isn't. I forget exactly what the point was then, but now at least we should be able to see a pattern of gratuitously trashing people for the fcuk of it, and the negative consequences that follow.

    First there was the sitcom dads from the 70s and 80s, and they were kind of clownish as the head of the family. And it was kind of funny then but now we have to deal with fatherlessness and the lousy childrearing that accompanies that.

    Then it was the "white male" thing, regarding political correctness and originating in academia. At first it was sort of whimsical, yeah, your market research shows that women are more likely to spend household discretionary income for entertainment, but how many of your researchers are anything other than white males.

    And now it's the Republicans. Yeah Republicans do a good job of keeping the lid on spending when a Democrat is President, but elect one of them and it goes through the roof.

    In every case, it's the same thing. First it was funny, then it was annoying, then it was serious as a heart attack. And it happens for the same reasons each time. The things that turn out ok, we take for granted, and the things that don't are somebody else's fault. Well, in reality that's just bullshit. We take it for granted but then when it's gone we bitch like hell.

    To be honest, I haven't been following this omnibus thing very much. From what I've seen, I have no doubt that we booked a loser. So what, there will be another game next week. But it's the Republican Party that keeps us competitive enough to play the game in the first place. Without them, we're fcuked, as we've found out on more than one occasion in the recent past.

    Are you being satirical? “Hey bro, it’s not cool to criticize the government! Those people have feelings too! Let’s not punch down, or up, let’s punch sideways!” Is this really what you’re saying?

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    Are you being satirical? “Hey bro, it’s not cool to criticize the government! Those people have feelings too! Let’s not punch down, or up, let’s punch sideways!” Is this really what you’re saying?
     
    No, what I'm saying is that it's not cool to criticize the Republicans. Sometimes it has to be done, but it is never a good thing. Sometimes the GOP wins, sometimes they lose, but they are always Our Team. Always, always, always.

    Like any good team or any good family, when there are internal problems, get the relevant people together, face-to-face, behind closed doors, and straighten in out. Then, and this is important, present a united front to the rest of the world.

    This is so basic, really. The idea that somehow we're above that, because Paul Ryan is a cuck, or some other embarrassing specious bullshit, is stupid. If we do go the way of all flesh, you can't say we didn't deserve it.
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  147. Boethiuss says:
    @J.Ross

    We won’t have to fight them nearly so hard again.
     
    So that's why Bill Clinton lost, because of Dukakis? This is objectively wrong, and completely indefensible coming from a guy who wants to be the Party Active. Electorates do not avoid voting because they lost last time; if anything, electorates do not remember their last vote (or care that much about it). They vote on if the economy is good, how the incumbents are performing (note the tense), and maybe one or two really big current issues.
    For example, Trump was elected to send a message to neocon and establishmentarian scum, not to behave like a Democrat. Now that he has signed the omnibus bill ("never again," he says) there actually is hope for a blue wave. There wasn't before, Democrats were in all kinds of trouble. GOP'ers have snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.

    So that’s why Bill Clinton lost, because of Dukakis? This is objectively wrong, and completely indefensible coming from a guy who wants to be the Party Active. Electorates do not avoid voting because they lost last time; if anything, electorates do not remember their last vote (or care that much about it). They vote on if the economy is good, how the incumbents are performing (note the tense), and maybe one or two really big current issues.

    I’m not talking about Clinton or Dukakis, I’m talking about they way things are now. I put a link to some charts further upthread, it might have even been in response to you.

    In any event, the pussy hats, the antifa, the Mueller-Russia hype, PA-18, all of it is part of the same whole, which is that the Left is desperate. They have lost a lot of power that they think is by right theirs, and they are flailing about every which way they can think of to get it back. And even beyond the pussy hats and the rest of it, the primary avenue for their energy is the determination to regain as much overt political power as they possibly can for the next election, November 2018.

    Let’s emphasize again, I’m talking about this election season, 2018, not 1988, not in general. According to the charts, in PA-18 special election, the Dem candidate ran at 80% of the Presidential year baseline, the GOP guy ran at 50% of the Presidential year baseline. Their side is desperately motivated to go vote, our side isn’t.

    If somehow they don’t take over the House this November all that energy will be defeated by the sense of futility. It is a huge, huge opportunity to beat the other side when they are in a particularly strong state of desperation and motivation. If somehow, some way we can beat them then, what comes after that is resignation. Ie, you can work a phone bank or knock on doors if you want to, but the Republicans control Congress, that’s just the Way Things Are.

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  148. Boethiuss says:
    @J.Ross
    Are you being satirical? "Hey bro, it's not cool to criticize the government! Those people have feelings too! Let's not punch down, or up, let's punch sideways!" Is this really what you're saying?

    Are you being satirical? “Hey bro, it’s not cool to criticize the government! Those people have feelings too! Let’s not punch down, or up, let’s punch sideways!” Is this really what you’re saying?

    No, what I’m saying is that it’s not cool to criticize the Republicans. Sometimes it has to be done, but it is never a good thing. Sometimes the GOP wins, sometimes they lose, but they are always Our Team. Always, always, always.

    Like any good team or any good family, when there are internal problems, get the relevant people together, face-to-face, behind closed doors, and straighten in out. Then, and this is important, present a united front to the rest of the world.

    This is so basic, really. The idea that somehow we’re above that, because Paul Ryan is a cuck, or some other embarrassing specious bullshit, is stupid. If we do go the way of all flesh, you can’t say we didn’t deserve it.

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  150. Boethiuss says:
    @J.Ross

    We won’t have to fight them nearly so hard again.
     
    So that's why Bill Clinton lost, because of Dukakis? This is objectively wrong, and completely indefensible coming from a guy who wants to be the Party Active. Electorates do not avoid voting because they lost last time; if anything, electorates do not remember their last vote (or care that much about it). They vote on if the economy is good, how the incumbents are performing (note the tense), and maybe one or two really big current issues.
    For example, Trump was elected to send a message to neocon and establishmentarian scum, not to behave like a Democrat. Now that he has signed the omnibus bill ("never again," he says) there actually is hope for a blue wave. There wasn't before, Democrats were in all kinds of trouble. GOP'ers have snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.

    Now that he has signed the omnibus bill (“never again,” he says) there actually is hope for a blue wave. There wasn’t before, Democrats were in all kinds of trouble. GOP’ers have snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.

    Oh my word. JRoss, who supposedly is aware of Trump’s 40% approval rating, Democrats leading generic ballots by 10%, winning special elections in Trump-favorable districts, nonetheless could not see the possibility for a blue wave this November until President Trump signed the omnibus spending bill. Jesus Christ, can’t anybody here play this game?

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  151. MBlanc46 says:
    @Moses

    Maybe we should be working helping them out and not worrying about Trump so much, because they are going to be around long after Trump is gone. And we’ll probably be needing them then as well.
     
    Wait, what?

    The old-style GOP is the enemy just as much as the leftists (perhaps more):
    - They spend, and spend, and spend
    - They love foreign wars
    - They love low skill, low wage immigration which harms Americans on the low end of the skill ladder
    - They sat on their hands while leftists took over our institutions and corrupted our cultural norms
    - They allow the Dems to control them with fake charges of "racist!", frightened of their own shadows
    - The GOP ostensibly controls both houses of Congress, yet we still don't have a wall or immigration reform?

    Please.

    With "friends" like the cuck GOP, who needs enemies?

    There’s no way forward for nationalists so long as the Repub Party exists.

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