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From the Los Angeles Times:

The economy of Beverly Hills needs those misbehaving Saudi princes and Porsches

A Saudi prince accused of a sex crime was arrested near his mansion in Beverly Glen, authorities said.

Martha Groves, Joseph Serna and Alice Walton

In Beverly Hills and surrounding upscale hamlets, the talk at social gatherings this month has centered on indications of wealthy Arab visitors behaving badly.

Earlier this month, a man driving a Qatar sheik’s rare, million-dollar-plus Ferrari LaFerrari raced a Porsche 911 GT3 through a quiet Beverly Hills neighborhood, ignoring stop signs and passing slower vehicles as horrified residents looked on. A member of the country’s ruling family, the sheik first claimed diplomatic immunity, then skipped town — with his costly vehicles.

Then on Wednesday, a Saudi prince was arrested at his rented estate in Beverly Glen and booked on suspicion of having forced a female worker to perform oral sex on him. He was freed on $300,000 bail.

Jimmy Delshad, former mayor of Beverly Hills, says his friends are asking: “Who the hell do they think they are, coming here and behaving like that?”

But Delshad, who emigrated in 1959 from Iran, is also quick to point out that these incidents are anomalies and that the strength of his city’s economy increasingly relies on the largesse of these elite Arab visitors.

They’re certainly spending with abandon — renting lavish beach pads for $100,000 a month and buying furnished penthouse condos along the Wilshire Corridor for their children at UCLA and USC, according to real estate brokers. …

Visitors from the Middle East — particularly Saudi Arabia — have long boosted the bottom lines of luxury boutiques and hotels in Beverly Hills, said Julie Wagner, chief executive of the city’s Conference and Visitors Bureau. In recent years, Beverly Hills has also seen tremendous growth in tourists from the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait and Qatar, who find Arabic-speaking staff members to serve them in upscale shops.

More women accuse Saudi prince after his arrest on sex crime charge, LAPD says

Emirates and Etihad airlines have direct flights to Los Angeles from Dubai and Abu Dhabi, and Qatar Airways plans to begin service in January.

Middle Easterners, Wagner said, spend the most on Beverly Hills-area hotels among international travelers, and they are second to Chinese visitors in retail spending. Muslim women in head scarves dine in large numbers at the high-end Ivy restaurant and Urth Caffe, two popular people-watching spots.

The Peninsula Beverly Hills on Santa Monica Boulevard is one of many opulent hotels offering amenities such as prayer rugs, arrows pointing toward Mecca and pillowcases monogrammed in Arabic. “We have had repeat guests that have come to visit us year after year,” said Offer Nissenbaum, the hotel’s managing director.

On Saturday afternoon, tourists from the Middle East and around the world strolled up and down Rodeo.

Afnan Alghamdi of Saudi Arabia said Beverly Hills’ “international reputation” is a big draw.

“Many people come here to see the companies,” referring to the high-end clothing designers.

Alghamdi and her family were in town for a vacation before she continues her graduate studies in English up in Fresno.

Fresno Pride

I wonder if, after their Rodeo Drive stopover, Fresno will live up to the Alghamdi family’s expectations of the California Dream?

They stopped at the Rolex store and were headed next to Gucci.

“I like the designer,” she said before her voice was drowned out by the sounds of a black and yellow Lamborghini and two red Ferraris racing up the street and screeching to a halt at a red light. The commotion drew a large crowd, with most people trying to take pictures of the luxury vehicles with their iPhones.

Abdul Alaradh and a friend stopped on the iconic street on the second day of their trip from Kuwait. The fashionable men matched dress shirts and loafers with a Louis Vuitton bracelet and belt.

“Nice weather, nice people,” Alaradh said of why he chose to visit Beverly Hills. “I feel happy here.”

It would be nice if the Gulf Arabs could help out their fellow Muslim Arabs fleeing to Europe, but, morally, saving the economy of Beverly Hills must remain their highest priority.

 
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  1. The Persian Jews love Wahabi money.

  2. Could this be workable subject matter for a hot new TED talk about leveraging obnoxious Saudis for one’s own striving municipality? “Essence of Dubuque: The Disruptive Moneyball Gamechanger of Closing the Ferrari Gap”

    • Replies: @ganderson
    "obnoxious Saudis".

    Department of Redundancy Department?
  3. Hmm, suddenly I find I understand the average batsh*t Arab terrorist’s perspective a little better.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    I felt similarly about socialists after reading a successful Silicon Valley investor's stream of consciousness tweets:
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/644735799536295937
  4. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    Nothing new here.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code#Background

    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/09/29/hollywood.embraces.polanski/

    And then all the rappers and athletes who are allowed to get away with everything.

    And Casino Jack…

    And Pollard will go free… yeah.

  5. Money talks; bullshit walks.

  6. @Anonymous
    Hmm, suddenly I find I understand the average batsh*t Arab terrorist's perspective a little better.

    I felt similarly about socialists after reading a successful Silicon Valley investor’s stream of consciousness tweets:

    • Replies: @SFG
    What, a McDonald's that helps you lose weight? If it actually worked, it would be a huge seller. Strikes me as pretty business-savvy on the guy's part. He'll have someone else look up the science and economics.
  7. …said Offer Nissenbaum, the hotel’s managing director.

    And all night long, he was honor and Offer…

    …the high-end Ivy restaurant and Urth Caffe, two popular people-watching spots

    Who wants to watch diners choke on ivy and urth their coffee? California sure is weird.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    For the record, I ate at the Ivy (no relation) and at their Santa Monica outlet Ivy at the Shore, and digested just fine. No opinion on Urth.

    On a brighter note, I did meet Jane Seymour at an entertainment industry event at the Ivy, and can attest that she is tiny, charming and every bit as beautiful as you'd anticipate.
  8. making excuses for a rapist thats shameless

  9. The Gulf Arab’s sell-by-date my be fast approach. Putin is gathering allies in the Middle East. Like the BRICS or PIIGS, this power new bloc made up of Iran/Russia/Iraq/Syria/Hezbollah can be called the IRISH bloc. With China it becomes a little more awkward but still works: the IRISCH bloc.

    Once the Fighting IRISH put Syria back together again, they may very well come knocking on the Gulf Arabs’ door. I hope like hell the US stays out of it, because destroying the House of Saud and the other corrupt Gulf States, can only result in good.

    • Replies: @IHTG
    It'll cause a lot of good to oil prices.

    Once the Fighting IRISH put Syria back together again
     
    Haha...if they get that far.
    , @SFG
    I hope they quit killing American soldiers in stupid wars too, but if there's one thing the 'Arab Spring' has taught us, it's that destroying corrupt states does not always result in an improvement.
  10. If Iran and Iraq were not so full of cousin-schtupping inbred fanatics with 80IQs, rather than fight each other, they would have divided up the Gulf states among themselves in the 1980s. It would not have been too hard to come up with a fair plan: Iraq gets Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, perhaps allowing a Baathist member of the Rashidi clan to take over a rump Meccan state, and Iran gets Bahrain, UAE, Qatar, and the little strip of Saudi in between the last two.

    • Replies: @Lot
    If you wondered how such a fight might go:

    On 2 August 1990 at 2:00 am, local time, Iraq launched an invasion of Kuwait with four elite Iraqi Republican Guard divisions ....

    Despite months of Iraqi sabre-rattling, Kuwait did not have its forces on alert and was caught unaware. ...

    Towards the end of the first day of the invasion, only pockets of resistance were left in the country. By 3 August, the last military units were desperately fighting delaying actions ... Ali al-Salim air base of the Kuwaiti Air Force was the only base still unoccupied on 3 August, and Kuwaiti Aircraft flew resupply missions from Saudi Arabia throughout the day in an effort to mount a defense. However, by nightfall, Ali al-Salim air base had been overrun by Iraqi forces.
     
  11. @Lot
    If Iran and Iraq were not so full of cousin-schtupping inbred fanatics with 80IQs, rather than fight each other, they would have divided up the Gulf states among themselves in the 1980s. It would not have been too hard to come up with a fair plan: Iraq gets Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, perhaps allowing a Baathist member of the Rashidi clan to take over a rump Meccan state, and Iran gets Bahrain, UAE, Qatar, and the little strip of Saudi in between the last two.

    If you wondered how such a fight might go:

    On 2 August 1990 at 2:00 am, local time, Iraq launched an invasion of Kuwait with four elite Iraqi Republican Guard divisions ….

    Despite months of Iraqi sabre-rattling, Kuwait did not have its forces on alert and was caught unaware. …

    Towards the end of the first day of the invasion, only pockets of resistance were left in the country. By 3 August, the last military units were desperately fighting delaying actions … Ali al-Salim air base of the Kuwaiti Air Force was the only base still unoccupied on 3 August, and Kuwaiti Aircraft flew resupply missions from Saudi Arabia throughout the day in an effort to mount a defense. However, by nightfall, Ali al-Salim air base had been overrun by Iraqi forces.

  12. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The really remarkable thing is that the Saudia and Gulf Arabs have received very very little opprobrium and criticism – from the international stage – for their outright refusal to help their ethnic brothers, co religionists and near neighbors.
    Contrast the kid gloves treatment given to them to the way that east European states, which have no ties of blood, culture or religion to the ‘migrants’ are being excoriated at every turn by the so called ‘great and good’ for the dastardly ‘crime’ of wishing to keep their nations.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    The Zionists want to move as many Arabs as they can into Europe. This accomplishes two things:

    The first is that it depopulates Arab lands thus making for less formidable opponents and making for easier Lebensraum eventually

    The second is that it destroys Europe and allows Jews to finally take their rightful place as masters of Europe.

    Increasing antisemitism in Europe? Not a problem since Jews control the states and can punish Badthinkers. Worst case scenario they head to Israel
    , @tbraton
    Hell, Saudi Arabia completely escaped any blame for 9/11 despite the fact that 15 out of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia and despite the fact that Saudi Arabia produced and financed Osama Bin Laden. All the blame fell on poor Iraq which produced none of the hijackers and had no connection with Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda. And that doesn't even touch on the evidence that Saudi officials played a large role in facilitating the movement of some of the hijackers once they arrived in the U.S. Oh, btw, the George W. administration did its best to facilitate the speedy departure of Saudi citizens after 9/11, at a time when Americans were encountering obstacles to travel.
  13. anon • Disclaimer says:

    OT:

    to anyone who saw the martian and has read the book, were the book’s characters as diverse as the movie’s? I was shocked by how female and how non-white NASA’s engineers and scientists were. And the black “Astro-dynamicist” who saves the day was totally unbelievable. Did anyone else catch “SCIENCE” written on his blackboard? Real scientists don’t write “BECAUSE SCIENCE” on the blackboard or their notepads.

    The most believable character was that chubby Asian guy who heads the JPL. He reminded my of Steve Hsu.

    • Replies: @Clyde

    to anyone who saw the martian and has read the book, were the book’s characters as diverse as the movie’s? I was shocked by how female and how non-white NASA’s engineers and scientists were. And the black “Astro-dynamicist” who saves the day was totally unbelievable. Did anyone else catch “SCIENCE” written on his blackboard? Real scientists don’t write “BECAUSE SCIENCE” on the blackboard or their notepads.
     
    Partly why I don't like today's sci-fi films and only see them if they happen to be on the boob tube. Also today's techno-spy thrillers have too much PC dross. And too much Morgan Freeman.
    , @metatron
    Of the two black guys, in the book, one was Indian, the other's race wasn't mentioned, but he was a total nerd and not like the hip black guy in the movie. The Indian assistant was Indian in the book.

    Actually NASA as depicted was more white than my university(minus the blacks), so I really don't see a realism problem with so many Asians being depicted.
  14. @Shine a Light
    The Gulf Arab's sell-by-date my be fast approach. Putin is gathering allies in the Middle East. Like the BRICS or PIIGS, this power new bloc made up of Iran/Russia/Iraq/Syria/Hezbollah can be called the IRISH bloc. With China it becomes a little more awkward but still works: the IRISCH bloc.

    Once the Fighting IRISH put Syria back together again, they may very well come knocking on the Gulf Arabs' door. I hope like hell the US stays out of it, because destroying the House of Saud and the other corrupt Gulf States, can only result in good.

    It’ll cause a lot of good to oil prices.

    Once the Fighting IRISH put Syria back together again

    Haha…if they get that far.

  15. Fastest and cheapest way to achieve peace in the Middle East and beyond, and end Sunni terrorism? Depose the despicable house of Saoud, freeze their assets and bank accounts, hang publicly all of the hundreds or so pathetic Saudi princelings if that’s your fancy, and replace them with a Saddam- like figure. Moustache and cammo uniform are not negotiable. Set the price of petrol to a fixed and permanent $30/ barrel.
    Establish a joint American/ Russian protectorate over the Middle-East, including Israel. Israel should be a docile client state, not a maverick state with nukes and yarmulkes.

  16. @Anonymous
    The really remarkable thing is that the Saudia and Gulf Arabs have received very very little opprobrium and criticism - from the international stage - for their outright refusal to help their ethnic brothers, co religionists and near neighbors.
    Contrast the kid gloves treatment given to them to the way that east European states, which have no ties of blood, culture or religion to the 'migrants' are being excoriated at every turn by the so called 'great and good' for the dastardly 'crime' of wishing to keep their nations.

    The Zionists want to move as many Arabs as they can into Europe. This accomplishes two things:

    The first is that it depopulates Arab lands thus making for less formidable opponents and making for easier Lebensraum eventually

    The second is that it destroys Europe and allows Jews to finally take their rightful place as masters of Europe.

    Increasing antisemitism in Europe? Not a problem since Jews control the states and can punish Badthinkers. Worst case scenario they head to Israel

  17. @anon
    OT:

    to anyone who saw the martian and has read the book, were the book's characters as diverse as the movie's? I was shocked by how female and how non-white NASA's engineers and scientists were. And the black "Astro-dynamicist" who saves the day was totally unbelievable. Did anyone else catch "SCIENCE" written on his blackboard? Real scientists don't write "BECAUSE SCIENCE" on the blackboard or their notepads.

    The most believable character was that chubby Asian guy who heads the JPL. He reminded my of Steve Hsu.

    to anyone who saw the martian and has read the book, were the book’s characters as diverse as the movie’s? I was shocked by how female and how non-white NASA’s engineers and scientists were. And the black “Astro-dynamicist” who saves the day was totally unbelievable. Did anyone else catch “SCIENCE” written on his blackboard? Real scientists don’t write “BECAUSE SCIENCE” on the blackboard or their notepads.

    Partly why I don’t like today’s sci-fi films and only see them if they happen to be on the boob tube. Also today’s techno-spy thrillers have too much PC dross. And too much Morgan Freeman.

  18. • Replies: @AshTon
    The Gulf Arabs colonising the richer areas of West London must be some of the dumbest people I've ever seen. They've spent their whole lives coccooned by absurd levels of unearned wealth. Everything has been done for them, so they are invariably obese and barely able to tie their own shoelaces.

    Like Papuan cargo cultists who've won the lottery, they dress in high end labels and race fast cars, thinking that this will give them filmstar status.

    They need a servant (usually Filipino) to do simple things like shopping. Perhaps one day, like the Mamluk dynasties, the Filipinos will take over from their idiocratic masters.

  19. what’s the point of pushing this shtick. In what way does Europe’s insistance on taking it up the poofter imply that the Arab states should also take it up the poofter? As far as I can tell the verbal propaganda is coming from people who sympathize with just one country in that region..and it’s not Arab.

    • Replies: @SFG
    It's in their neighborhood. Why are the refugees going to Europe, much further away, and not Saudia Arabia? Because Europeans are soft, that's why.

    Looking at the Germans destroy themselves with Syrians who are probably going to spend their whole lives on welfare in expiation for their grandparents' killing the Jews, all I can think is, 'Geez, if you'd just left 'em alone, you'd have the Bomb, more territory, and only slightly bigger noses on average.'

    I'd write Angela Merkel an indulgence if it would do any good. Ugh!

    , @Hunsdon
    Because the Gulf States are not only the co-ethnics with the refugees, but also share their confession? And, Felix, if you think this place is full of conspirators working on behalf of Eretz Israel, you may be unique in human history.
    , @AnotherDad

    what’s the point of pushing this shtick. In what way does Europe’s insistance on taking it up the poofter imply that the Arab states should also take it up the poofter?
     
    I'd think it's obvious. It's certainly not to shame the Gulf states to do anything--we know they won't. (They have no shame.)

    It's to make the point to *white people* that there are much closer co-ethnics and co-religionists of these phony refugees who could be--actually do have the resources--handling the "refugees" and are not.

    Steve is doing very useful propaganda here to try and get white people to give up their suicidal guilt trip and wake the @#$*! up.

    It's a call to "shuck off the white man's burden".
  20. What Israelis are saying:

    http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Western-racism-gives-the-Arab-Gulf-states-a-free-pass-417990

    Why do the world leaders not demand that these rich Arab states take care of their own brother Arabs and fellow Muslims. Not a word is said. Why? Why are these Arab refugees, running from Arab hostility and Arab cruelty, a European responsibility?

    It seems to me that this is a manifestation of raw racism. The world does not talk about this. It’s as if the world does not hold Arabs to accepted norms of human compassion, empathy and moral obligation. It’s as if the world does not expect Muslim Arabs to care about their own brothers and sisters. No one dares mention their obligations and their naked repudiation of responsibility. Is the underlying premise that they are somehow different or inferior or that their culture and code of conduct cannot be judged by Western standards? Do we implicitly discredit their culture and unthinkingly excuse them from humanitarian and international responsibility?

    Something fundamentally perverted is at play here. This is more than a cultural avoidance of the politically incorrect. It manifests some fundamental flaw in Western conception. It is the same flaw which prompts the Western human rights groups to find fault in Israel’s military defense against immoral Hamas attacks on civilians when unintended and often unavoidable harm to civilians occurs. Israel’s collateral damage rates are among the lowest in the world, far lower than those vocally condemning us. When we harm innocent civilians, our vigorous efforts to avoid this result have failed. Our terrorist enemies, on the other hand, aim at civilian populations. For them, “collateral damage” means their vigorous efforts have succeeded. Yet the world condemns us and holds the attacking Arab forces to almost no standard.

    My comment:
    If the Christian Arabs had their own state in the Middle East today they could defend themselves the same way the Jews of the Middle East do. They would not be victimized by Sunni crazies. In fact Lebanon used to be *the Christian state* of the Middle East. They would not be victimized by Sunni crazies. In 1900 their population was 80% Christian Arab. I am going by memory here.

    • Agree: IA
    • Replies: @Beach

    It seems to me that this is a manifestation of raw racism... It’s as if the world does not hold Arabs to accepted norms of human compassion, empathy and moral obligation. It’s as if the world does not expect Muslim Arabs to care about their own brothers and sisters.
     
    ...

    Is the underlying premise that they are somehow different or inferior or that their culture and code of conduct cannot be judged by Western standards?
     
    Yep, that's exactly what it is. It is the unspoken credo of SWPLs throughout America and Western Europe, and it applies not just to Muslims but to Africans, underclass black Americans, Latinos, Hispanics, Bangladeshis... I've written this before, but the underlying mentality is, "They're just wogs, what do you expect?" That's why they have to be helped. The same get out of personal responsibility free card does NOT, notably, apply to poor Appalachian whites, or to white residents of Eastern European countries. Because they are white, they are held to a higher standard, but SWPLs will never admit that; if they did, they would be forced to face up to the other side of the equation.
  21. @Dave Pinsen
    I felt similarly about socialists after reading a successful Silicon Valley investor's stream of consciousness tweets:
    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/644735799536295937

    What, a McDonald’s that helps you lose weight? If it actually worked, it would be a huge seller. Strikes me as pretty business-savvy on the guy’s part. He’ll have someone else look up the science and economics.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    a McDonald’s that helps you lose weight? If it actually worked, it would be a huge seller. Strikes me as pretty business-savvy on the guy’s part. He’ll have someone else look up the science and economics.
     
    A pill that prevents death? A guy could sell a ton of those! I'll just hire someone to look up the, uh, science and so forth.

    Why didn't anyone think of this before me? They must all be idiots!

    , @Dave Pinsen
    Burgers over kale? Have you ever had kale?
    , @snorlax
    In fact it's a proven successful concept. (Subway)
  22. @Felix
    what's the point of pushing this shtick. In what way does Europe's insistance on taking it up the poofter imply that the Arab states should also take it up the poofter? As far as I can tell the verbal propaganda is coming from people who sympathize with just one country in that region..and it's not Arab.

    It’s in their neighborhood. Why are the refugees going to Europe, much further away, and not Saudia Arabia? Because Europeans are soft, that’s why.

    Looking at the Germans destroy themselves with Syrians who are probably going to spend their whole lives on welfare in expiation for their grandparents’ killing the Jews, all I can think is, ‘Geez, if you’d just left ’em alone, you’d have the Bomb, more territory, and only slightly bigger noses on average.’

    I’d write Angela Merkel an indulgence if it would do any good. Ugh!

    • Replies: @Felix

    It’s in their neighborhood. Why are the refugees going to Europe, much further away, and not Saudia Arabia? Because Europeans are soft, that’s why.

     

    Ok. But the fact that Europe is accepting the "refugees" does not mean there is some kind of cosmic justice that would impel Saudi Arabia to take them in as well. It is Europe's decision to take in the migrants, not Saudi Arabia's. Thus, Saudi Arabia has no obligation whatsoever to base its policy on a decision made by a third party. Steve's continuing snarky saga of poking fun at how rich the gulf arabs are ignores this reality. If the airways were full of Saudi princes calling on the Europeans to take in more migrants, this would be justified. But Saudi princes are not calling on the Europeans to take in more migrants. Why then pretend that the Saudis have an obligation to take in the migrants? News flash: nobody wants the migrants. The European people don't want the migrants and Saudi people don't want the migrants. It just so happens that unlike the democrazy in Europe, the Saudi government is actually acting in accordance with the desires and best interests of its people wr to migrants. The horror.
  23. @Anonymous
    Could this be workable subject matter for a hot new TED talk about leveraging obnoxious Saudis for one's own striving municipality? "Essence of Dubuque: The Disruptive Moneyball Gamechanger of Closing the Ferrari Gap"

    “obnoxious Saudis”.

    Department of Redundancy Department?

  24. Is there any indication that gulf Arabs will start settling permanently in Beverly Hills? So far, many gulf Arabs are just visitors to the west. I guess life is just too good there right now.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    Saudis would have to compete with all those Persians that immigrated around the fall of the Shah. They ruined the Beverly Hills schools, according to former board members.
  25. As I recall Kuwait had a large Palestinian population when Saddam’s army rolled in. The Palestinians behaved disgracefully and the Kuwaitis kicked them out once Saddam’s army was expelled. Then there was Lebanon. A nice enough place by Middle Eastern standards till it started filling up with Palestinians.

    Hamas has sided with Iran in the fight in Syria so that, no doubt, concerns the Gulf Arabs today.

    An Arab refugee does not seem to express gratitude towards his host. Something the Germans will likely learn the hard way.

  26. @SFG
    It's in their neighborhood. Why are the refugees going to Europe, much further away, and not Saudia Arabia? Because Europeans are soft, that's why.

    Looking at the Germans destroy themselves with Syrians who are probably going to spend their whole lives on welfare in expiation for their grandparents' killing the Jews, all I can think is, 'Geez, if you'd just left 'em alone, you'd have the Bomb, more territory, and only slightly bigger noses on average.'

    I'd write Angela Merkel an indulgence if it would do any good. Ugh!

    It’s in their neighborhood. Why are the refugees going to Europe, much further away, and not Saudia Arabia? Because Europeans are soft, that’s why.

    Ok. But the fact that Europe is accepting the “refugees” does not mean there is some kind of cosmic justice that would impel Saudi Arabia to take them in as well. It is Europe’s decision to take in the migrants, not Saudi Arabia’s. Thus, Saudi Arabia has no obligation whatsoever to base its policy on a decision made by a third party. Steve’s continuing snarky saga of poking fun at how rich the gulf arabs are ignores this reality. If the airways were full of Saudi princes calling on the Europeans to take in more migrants, this would be justified. But Saudi princes are not calling on the Europeans to take in more migrants. Why then pretend that the Saudis have an obligation to take in the migrants? News flash: nobody wants the migrants. The European people don’t want the migrants and Saudi people don’t want the migrants. It just so happens that unlike the democrazy in Europe, the Saudi government is actually acting in accordance with the desires and best interests of its people wr to migrants. The horror.

  27. WhatEvvs [AKA "Anonymuss Annie"] says:

    OT but you really should read this:

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/illegal-immigrants-could-elect-hillary-clinton-213216

    I think of Politico as mostly clickbait but this one is good: 435 of the 538 electoral college votes are based on the census, and the census does not “discriminate” between legal & illegals. So you don’t have to wait for them to produce anchor babies for illegals to swing an election.

    Really good article.

    Also, see http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/evenwel-v-abbott/

    • Replies: @map
    This was traditionally known as a "rotten borough."
  28. OT:
    The South Florida Sun-Sentinel has done a long series of articles uncovering the cynical abuse of generous Cuban “refugee” policies. It is worth reading in full. The series of articles started to appear in the paper several months ago.

    The latest in installment is here:

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/us-cuba-welfare-benefits/sfl-us-cuba-welfare-benefits-part-1-htmlstory.html

    From the article: “America’s open-ended generosity has grown into an entitlement that exceeds $680 million a year and is exploited with ease….“They’re taking benefits from the American taxpayer to subsidize their life in another country.’”

  29. @Anonymous Nephew
    London has its own.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3258869/UAE-driver-facing-prosecution-home-scaring-London-cyclist-150ft-burnout-following-late-night-confrontation.html

    The Gulf Arabs colonising the richer areas of West London must be some of the dumbest people I’ve ever seen. They’ve spent their whole lives coccooned by absurd levels of unearned wealth. Everything has been done for them, so they are invariably obese and barely able to tie their own shoelaces.

    Like Papuan cargo cultists who’ve won the lottery, they dress in high end labels and race fast cars, thinking that this will give them filmstar status.

    They need a servant (usually Filipino) to do simple things like shopping. Perhaps one day, like the Mamluk dynasties, the Filipinos will take over from their idiocratic masters.

  30. @Shine a Light
    The Gulf Arab's sell-by-date my be fast approach. Putin is gathering allies in the Middle East. Like the BRICS or PIIGS, this power new bloc made up of Iran/Russia/Iraq/Syria/Hezbollah can be called the IRISH bloc. With China it becomes a little more awkward but still works: the IRISCH bloc.

    Once the Fighting IRISH put Syria back together again, they may very well come knocking on the Gulf Arabs' door. I hope like hell the US stays out of it, because destroying the House of Saud and the other corrupt Gulf States, can only result in good.

    I hope they quit killing American soldiers in stupid wars too, but if there’s one thing the ‘Arab Spring’ has taught us, it’s that destroying corrupt states does not always result in an improvement.

  31. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    An interesting Instagram account is Tag The Sponsor, a site which finds women who are likely prostitutes/escorts on the site and mocks them for their frequent photos of themselves traveling alone on private jets to Dubai. The name alludes to the fact that they don’t tag the Instagram accounts of the gross Gulf men who are paying them cash to go there. Sometimes the author of the site proposes an arrangement, gets the women to agree to getting on a plane to Dubai, defecated on for money, and then posts the conversation.

    Both the Gulf trash and the adventuresses sound like absolute pieces of work.

    http://www.tagthesponsor.com/

  32. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    They have more money than they know what to do with thus the extravagant shopping trips where they buy massive amounts of jewelry, designer clothes, high end cars, yachts, mansions, etc. Their money purchases other people’s deference and are quite the spoiled ones. The Saudis have had a close relationship with the US which acts as it’s protector and are also part of the group that’s behind the violence. They don’t intend to help out with any spillover from their actions; that’s for others to do such as the Europeans and the US. They spend the resource wealth of their country on themselves.
    A recent story regarding SA is that a 21 year old youth has been condemned to be beheaded and crucified for engaging in activities in opposition to the government. Foreign workers have gotten death sentences with questionable evidence. Sorcery is also punishable by death. SA gets no scrutiny because the US covers for them.

  33. Nobody here can look on the bright side.

    California is getting the Arabs who spend money.

    Europe is getting the Arabs who take money.

    Sorry, but I think California is way ahead. And more Arabs paying LA taxes means Steve pays less.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams

    California is getting the Arabs who spend money... And more Arabs paying LA taxes means Steve pays less.
     
    The small number of people who own the boutiques and restaurants where profligate Arabs piss away their petroleum lucre get the money.

    Steve and the large number of people like Steve pay taxes to provide medical care and support to the Mexicans they hit with their cars.
  34. Journalists and middle east “experts” have been predicting the end of the corrupt House of Saud for 40 years or so. They have been printing misbehaving Saudi prince stories for just about as long. And yet, nothing at all happens to the House of Saud. Their country is far more stable than anything near it (except Israel). Saudi Arabia is a family business and that family is extremely large – in the thousands, maybe tens of thousands in another generation. They are placed in any institution with power. There is a reason why GM went broke and Ford did not. GM never thought about anything beyond quarterly results. Ford, public or not, is a family business whose leaders think carefully about passing what they have on to their children. You will not see Syrian “refugees” in Saudi, you will never see anything that might interfere with passing on the Kingdom to the next generation.

  35. @Felix
    what's the point of pushing this shtick. In what way does Europe's insistance on taking it up the poofter imply that the Arab states should also take it up the poofter? As far as I can tell the verbal propaganda is coming from people who sympathize with just one country in that region..and it's not Arab.

    Because the Gulf States are not only the co-ethnics with the refugees, but also share their confession? And, Felix, if you think this place is full of conspirators working on behalf of Eretz Israel, you may be unique in human history.

  36. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I remember a time, back in the late 1970s when the British down-market Sunday newspapers were utterly obsessed with the sex lives of ‘Arab princes’, as they put it, using British tarts in organized ‘parties’ at all of the best London hotels.
    Apparently it was a huge business with plane loads flying in daily to do the Araby r n r thing.
    Probably still goes on.
    Heather Mills, the bird who Paul MaCartney married and then divorced – when her past came to light – was one of those tarts.

  37. @anon
    OT:

    to anyone who saw the martian and has read the book, were the book's characters as diverse as the movie's? I was shocked by how female and how non-white NASA's engineers and scientists were. And the black "Astro-dynamicist" who saves the day was totally unbelievable. Did anyone else catch "SCIENCE" written on his blackboard? Real scientists don't write "BECAUSE SCIENCE" on the blackboard or their notepads.

    The most believable character was that chubby Asian guy who heads the JPL. He reminded my of Steve Hsu.

    Of the two black guys, in the book, one was Indian, the other’s race wasn’t mentioned, but he was a total nerd and not like the hip black guy in the movie. The Indian assistant was Indian in the book.

    Actually NASA as depicted was more white than my university(minus the blacks), so I really don’t see a realism problem with so many Asians being depicted.

  38. @SFG
    What, a McDonald's that helps you lose weight? If it actually worked, it would be a huge seller. Strikes me as pretty business-savvy on the guy's part. He'll have someone else look up the science and economics.

    a McDonald’s that helps you lose weight? If it actually worked, it would be a huge seller. Strikes me as pretty business-savvy on the guy’s part. He’ll have someone else look up the science and economics.

    A pill that prevents death? A guy could sell a ton of those! I’ll just hire someone to look up the, uh, science and so forth.

    Why didn’t anyone think of this before me? They must all be idiots!

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
    • Replies: @NOTA
    The irony is a pretty good example of such a pill is baby aspirin.
    , @SFG
    And if you have smart subordinates, they'll tell you it's impossible. Assuming you're not such an egomaniac...oh, wait, never mind. All right, I surrender.
  39. @anony-mouse
    Nobody here can look on the bright side.

    California is getting the Arabs who spend money.

    Europe is getting the Arabs who take money.

    Sorry, but I think California is way ahead. And more Arabs paying LA taxes means Steve pays less.

    California is getting the Arabs who spend money… And more Arabs paying LA taxes means Steve pays less.

    The small number of people who own the boutiques and restaurants where profligate Arabs piss away their petroleum lucre get the money.

    Steve and the large number of people like Steve pay taxes to provide medical care and support to the Mexicans they hit with their cars.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    "The small number of people who own the boutiques and restaurants where profligate Arabs piss away their petroleum lucre get the money."

    When I was much younger, I dated a girl (she was my date at my senior prom in high school--she had moved across town and attended a different high school) who, it turned out (based on her memoir) was Jewish on both her mother's and father's side (I had been told by her then best friend, a Jewish girl I had known since the first grade, that her father, who was divorced from her mother, was Roman Catholic, which I thought was kind of cool, since my first "girlfriend" was half-Jewish and half-Catholic, and I was a total non-believer--that delusion lasted for nearly 50 years until her memoir came out, so anyone who thinks he knows what the real story is about anything is deluding himself). Anyway, she achieved more than a modest success in the design business and had a trendy boutique in Paris. When I got together with her in the early 80's in New York City, she told me about the many wealthy Arabs and Saudis who frequented her boutique and how much pleasure she got by charging them twice the regular price. Now that I know that she was 100% Jewish, I'm sure the pleasure was twice as great as I thought at the time when I thought she was only Jewish on her mother's side.
  40. @Reg Cæsar

    …said Offer Nissenbaum, the hotel’s managing director.
     
    And all night long, he was honor and Offer…

    …the high-end Ivy restaurant and Urth Caffe, two popular people-watching spots
     
    Who wants to watch diners choke on ivy and urth their coffee? California sure is weird.

    For the record, I ate at the Ivy (no relation) and at their Santa Monica outlet Ivy at the Shore, and digested just fine. No opinion on Urth.

    On a brighter note, I did meet Jane Seymour at an entertainment industry event at the Ivy, and can attest that she is tiny, charming and every bit as beautiful as you’d anticipate.

  41. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    Like father like son.

    Maybe it was the Semite in him that made him act this way.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3258888/The-new-Steve-Jobs-biopic-travesty-says-ex-Cold-Ruthless-Obsessive-No-FAR-worse-denied-father-child-ROTTEN-CORE.html

    Worth gazillions but refusing to support his own kid.

    • Replies: @tbraton
    As a famous newscaster used to say, now for the rest of the story (not to excuse Jobs execrable earlier behavior):

    (from Wikipedia)"Chrisann Brennan notes that after Jobs was forced out of Apple, "he apologized many times over for his behavior" towards her and Lisa. She also states that Jobs "said that he never took responsibility when he should have, and that he was sorry."[13] By this time, Jobs had developed a strong relationship with Lisa and when she was nine, Jobs had her birth certificate changed and her name went from "Lisa Brennan" to "Lisa Brennan-Jobs."[13] In addition, Jobs and Brennan developed a working relationship to co-parent Lisa, a change Brennan credits to the influence of his newly found biological sister, Mona Simpson (who worked to repair the relationship between Lisa and Jobs).[13] Jobs found Mona after first finding his birth mother, Joanne Schieble Simpson, shortly after he left Apple.[2]"
  42. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    Western elites are like Semite Arab tycoons.

    They become richer and richer via globalism and pontificate about ‘diversity’ but refuse to pay the price of what they’ve wrought on ordinary Americans and Europeans.

    And they just section-8-shovel out dangerous Negroes to other areas.

    In winter, there is snow-plowing, but all year ’round, we have negro-plowing or
    ‘gro-plowing.

    Section 8 represented in snow.

  43. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    America in full retard mode.

    https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10200814477721541

    Trump, Negro, blonde woman, and yarmalka-boy.

  44. Steve,

    Three quick items:

    1.) Related to LA, I watched Entourage last night with my wife after the baby went to bed. It was a truly awful movie and certainly an indictment of excessive consumerism. But I have to ask, are Hollywood filmmakers aware that Los Angeles is 50% hispanic? In watching the movie, I don’t think I saw more than than four hispanics in the entire movie.

    2.) Don’t tell Bernie Sanders about this story: http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/local/2015/09/10/obeng-superintendent-visa-btv-schools-porter/72026498/

    As we all know, there are absolutely no qualified Americans in the Burlington, Vermont metro area (population of approx $215K and home to the University of Vermont) to be a superintendent. We get double the immigration now! (Africa, by way of Canada).

    3.) Here is what is going on in my neck of the woods: https://www.numbersusa.com/news/toys-r-us-used-h1b-to-replace-american-workers

    Again, these are jobs that Americans simply will not do. There are absolutely no qualified accountants in the NY Metro Area.

    Excuse while I go drink now….

  45. It’s impossible for Steve Sailer to hide his contempt for Muslims. While condemning Gulf states for not accepting refugees from Syria – would he dare to condemn western countries for sending five million of their Jewish citizens to live in Desert of Arabia?

    After all, there are more billionaires in the West than in Gulf states. In fact there are more billionaire in Israel (11) than the entire Middle East (7).

    Gulf states donated $2.1 billion for Hurricane Katrina, how much Mr. Sailer’s friends donated to that ‘humanitarian cause’ whose victims were mostly Black people.

    The Gulf states are not taking those refugees because the rulers of those states are funding West’s proxy war for Israel in Syria.

    Another western propaganda B.S. to divert attention from the real criminals behind the proxy war going on Syria for over four years. In 2013, the Washington Post admitted that it’s the Jewish groups which are campaigning for a US invasion of Syria to bring a regime change in Damascus.

    Last month, the Holy Spirit struck Joe Biden, whose two children have Jewish spouses. He said: “America has no problem with a nuclear Iran. It wants a regime change in Tehran because that’s what Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and powerful Jewish lobby groups in the US want.”

    One doesn’t need a PhD to figure out that ISIS/ISIL is creation of United States to protect Israel’s interests in the region.

    http://www.wrmea.org/2005-november/special-report-muslims-and-arabs-around-the-world-organize-to-aid-hurricane-katrina-victims.html

  46. @SFG
    What, a McDonald's that helps you lose weight? If it actually worked, it would be a huge seller. Strikes me as pretty business-savvy on the guy's part. He'll have someone else look up the science and economics.

    Burgers over kale? Have you ever had kale?

  47. @Daniel Williams

    a McDonald’s that helps you lose weight? If it actually worked, it would be a huge seller. Strikes me as pretty business-savvy on the guy’s part. He’ll have someone else look up the science and economics.
     
    A pill that prevents death? A guy could sell a ton of those! I'll just hire someone to look up the, uh, science and so forth.

    Why didn't anyone think of this before me? They must all be idiots!

    The irony is a pretty good example of such a pill is baby aspirin.

  48. “would he dare to condemn western countries for sending five million of their Jewish citizens to live in Desert of Arabia?”

    Not exactly how it went down, but even if it was, not equivalent at all. The Jews only improved the hellhole they squatted in. Not so for the welfare leeching primitives flooding into Europe.

  49. Priss Factor [AKA "skiapolemistis"] says:

    rotfl

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-34422258

    those who flee from this carry the same genes.

    they are carriers of the very thing they flee from.

    wolves fleeing from wolves are also wolves and pose a danger to dogs.

    ps. this is LTGTR on steroids.

  50. @Perspective
    Is there any indication that gulf Arabs will start settling permanently in Beverly Hills? So far, many gulf Arabs are just visitors to the west. I guess life is just too good there right now.

    Saudis would have to compete with all those Persians that immigrated around the fall of the Shah. They ruined the Beverly Hills schools, according to former board members.

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    In what way did they ruin the schools?

    The same way that Chinese tend to (by emphasizing academics over all else) or ...
  51. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @Ivy
    Saudis would have to compete with all those Persians that immigrated around the fall of the Shah. They ruined the Beverly Hills schools, according to former board members.

    In what way did they ruin the schools?

    The same way that Chinese tend to (by emphasizing academics over all else) or …

    • Replies: @Ivy
    Not civic-minded enough, bought the homes of smart families/benefactors that had made the schools and community support great, wouldn't enroll in the wider range of classes that prior students had, too Zerangi

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/zerangi-glorification-of-the-corrupt-in-iran-and-orange-county
     
  52. @Anonymous
    The really remarkable thing is that the Saudia and Gulf Arabs have received very very little opprobrium and criticism - from the international stage - for their outright refusal to help their ethnic brothers, co religionists and near neighbors.
    Contrast the kid gloves treatment given to them to the way that east European states, which have no ties of blood, culture or religion to the 'migrants' are being excoriated at every turn by the so called 'great and good' for the dastardly 'crime' of wishing to keep their nations.

    Hell, Saudi Arabia completely escaped any blame for 9/11 despite the fact that 15 out of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia and despite the fact that Saudi Arabia produced and financed Osama Bin Laden. All the blame fell on poor Iraq which produced none of the hijackers and had no connection with Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda. And that doesn’t even touch on the evidence that Saudi officials played a large role in facilitating the movement of some of the hijackers once they arrived in the U.S. Oh, btw, the George W. administration did its best to facilitate the speedy departure of Saudi citizens after 9/11, at a time when Americans were encountering obstacles to travel.

  53. @Daniel Williams

    a McDonald’s that helps you lose weight? If it actually worked, it would be a huge seller. Strikes me as pretty business-savvy on the guy’s part. He’ll have someone else look up the science and economics.
     
    A pill that prevents death? A guy could sell a ton of those! I'll just hire someone to look up the, uh, science and so forth.

    Why didn't anyone think of this before me? They must all be idiots!

    And if you have smart subordinates, they’ll tell you it’s impossible. Assuming you’re not such an egomaniac…oh, wait, never mind. All right, I surrender.

  54. @Daniel Williams

    California is getting the Arabs who spend money... And more Arabs paying LA taxes means Steve pays less.
     
    The small number of people who own the boutiques and restaurants where profligate Arabs piss away their petroleum lucre get the money.

    Steve and the large number of people like Steve pay taxes to provide medical care and support to the Mexicans they hit with their cars.

    “The small number of people who own the boutiques and restaurants where profligate Arabs piss away their petroleum lucre get the money.”

    When I was much younger, I dated a girl (she was my date at my senior prom in high school–she had moved across town and attended a different high school) who, it turned out (based on her memoir) was Jewish on both her mother’s and father’s side (I had been told by her then best friend, a Jewish girl I had known since the first grade, that her father, who was divorced from her mother, was Roman Catholic, which I thought was kind of cool, since my first “girlfriend” was half-Jewish and half-Catholic, and I was a total non-believer–that delusion lasted for nearly 50 years until her memoir came out, so anyone who thinks he knows what the real story is about anything is deluding himself). Anyway, she achieved more than a modest success in the design business and had a trendy boutique in Paris. When I got together with her in the early 80’s in New York City, she told me about the many wealthy Arabs and Saudis who frequented her boutique and how much pleasure she got by charging them twice the regular price. Now that I know that she was 100% Jewish, I’m sure the pleasure was twice as great as I thought at the time when I thought she was only Jewish on her mother’s side.

  55. @Priss Factor
    Like father like son.

    Maybe it was the Semite in him that made him act this way.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3258888/The-new-Steve-Jobs-biopic-travesty-says-ex-Cold-Ruthless-Obsessive-No-FAR-worse-denied-father-child-ROTTEN-CORE.html

    Worth gazillions but refusing to support his own kid.

    As a famous newscaster used to say, now for the rest of the story (not to excuse Jobs execrable earlier behavior):

    (from Wikipedia)”Chrisann Brennan notes that after Jobs was forced out of Apple, “he apologized many times over for his behavior” towards her and Lisa. She also states that Jobs “said that he never took responsibility when he should have, and that he was sorry.”[13] By this time, Jobs had developed a strong relationship with Lisa and when she was nine, Jobs had her birth certificate changed and her name went from “Lisa Brennan” to “Lisa Brennan-Jobs.”[13] In addition, Jobs and Brennan developed a working relationship to co-parent Lisa, a change Brennan credits to the influence of his newly found biological sister, Mona Simpson (who worked to repair the relationship between Lisa and Jobs).[13] Jobs found Mona after first finding his birth mother, Joanne Schieble Simpson, shortly after he left Apple.[2]”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Jobs grew up with a little sister by adoption. They did not seem to be on good terms. Can you imagine being just some ordinary random girl and your big brother, who is competing with you for the limited resources of your ordinary parents, is, seriously, the World's Greatest Salesman and Marketer?
  56. @Felix
    what's the point of pushing this shtick. In what way does Europe's insistance on taking it up the poofter imply that the Arab states should also take it up the poofter? As far as I can tell the verbal propaganda is coming from people who sympathize with just one country in that region..and it's not Arab.

    what’s the point of pushing this shtick. In what way does Europe’s insistance on taking it up the poofter imply that the Arab states should also take it up the poofter?

    I’d think it’s obvious. It’s certainly not to shame the Gulf states to do anything–we know they won’t. (They have no shame.)

    It’s to make the point to *white people* that there are much closer co-ethnics and co-religionists of these phony refugees who could be–actually do have the resources–handling the “refugees” and are not.

    Steve is doing very useful propaganda here to try and get white people to give up their suicidal guilt trip and wake the @#$*! up.

    It’s a call to “shuck off the white man’s burden”.

  57. “Gulf Arabs Can’t Afford to Help Muslim Refugees Because…”

    Like some wealthy families Arab or non-Arab, white or non-white, Jewish or non-Jewish, etc., there is a general disdain for those “beneath” them in status, despite having a similar background, despite having the financial resources to help those in need. In other words, it’s good old-fashioned uncivilized behavior.

  58. @SFG
    What, a McDonald's that helps you lose weight? If it actually worked, it would be a huge seller. Strikes me as pretty business-savvy on the guy's part. He'll have someone else look up the science and economics.

    In fact it’s a proven successful concept. (Subway)

  59. @tbraton
    As a famous newscaster used to say, now for the rest of the story (not to excuse Jobs execrable earlier behavior):

    (from Wikipedia)"Chrisann Brennan notes that after Jobs was forced out of Apple, "he apologized many times over for his behavior" towards her and Lisa. She also states that Jobs "said that he never took responsibility when he should have, and that he was sorry."[13] By this time, Jobs had developed a strong relationship with Lisa and when she was nine, Jobs had her birth certificate changed and her name went from "Lisa Brennan" to "Lisa Brennan-Jobs."[13] In addition, Jobs and Brennan developed a working relationship to co-parent Lisa, a change Brennan credits to the influence of his newly found biological sister, Mona Simpson (who worked to repair the relationship between Lisa and Jobs).[13] Jobs found Mona after first finding his birth mother, Joanne Schieble Simpson, shortly after he left Apple.[2]"

    Jobs grew up with a little sister by adoption. They did not seem to be on good terms. Can you imagine being just some ordinary random girl and your big brother, who is competing with you for the limited resources of your ordinary parents, is, seriously, the World’s Greatest Salesman and Marketer?

  60. Saudis and Kuwaitis were the biggest cowards I have ever met in all my travels and work overseas. Their military officers talked tough but ran from the Iraqis, and abandoned their men. They hadn’t changed when I interacted with them. All bluster, but first to flee in danger.

    I have low regard for these decadent oil sheiks and their multitude of “princes.” I shit on them.*

    *Except the Saudi National Guard and the Qataris. They can fight. Not exactly imaginatively, but they would display courage, and take and hold their objectives.

  61. @Clyde
    What Israelis are saying:

    http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Western-racism-gives-the-Arab-Gulf-states-a-free-pass-417990

    Why do the world leaders not demand that these rich Arab states take care of their own brother Arabs and fellow Muslims. Not a word is said. Why? Why are these Arab refugees, running from Arab hostility and Arab cruelty, a European responsibility?

    It seems to me that this is a manifestation of raw racism. The world does not talk about this. It’s as if the world does not hold Arabs to accepted norms of human compassion, empathy and moral obligation. It’s as if the world does not expect Muslim Arabs to care about their own brothers and sisters. No one dares mention their obligations and their naked repudiation of responsibility. Is the underlying premise that they are somehow different or inferior or that their culture and code of conduct cannot be judged by Western standards? Do we implicitly discredit their culture and unthinkingly excuse them from humanitarian and international responsibility?

    Something fundamentally perverted is at play here. This is more than a cultural avoidance of the politically incorrect. It manifests some fundamental flaw in Western conception. It is the same flaw which prompts the Western human rights groups to find fault in Israel’s military defense against immoral Hamas attacks on civilians when unintended and often unavoidable harm to civilians occurs. Israel’s collateral damage rates are among the lowest in the world, far lower than those vocally condemning us. When we harm innocent civilians, our vigorous efforts to avoid this result have failed. Our terrorist enemies, on the other hand, aim at civilian populations. For them, “collateral damage” means their vigorous efforts have succeeded. Yet the world condemns us and holds the attacking Arab forces to almost no standard.

    My comment:
    If the Christian Arabs had their own state in the Middle East today they could defend themselves the same way the Jews of the Middle East do. They would not be victimized by Sunni crazies. In fact Lebanon used to be *the Christian state* of the Middle East. They would not be victimized by Sunni crazies. In 1900 their population was 80% Christian Arab. I am going by memory here.

    It seems to me that this is a manifestation of raw racism… It’s as if the world does not hold Arabs to accepted norms of human compassion, empathy and moral obligation. It’s as if the world does not expect Muslim Arabs to care about their own brothers and sisters.

    Is the underlying premise that they are somehow different or inferior or that their culture and code of conduct cannot be judged by Western standards?

    Yep, that’s exactly what it is. It is the unspoken credo of SWPLs throughout America and Western Europe, and it applies not just to Muslims but to Africans, underclass black Americans, Latinos, Hispanics, Bangladeshis… I’ve written this before, but the underlying mentality is, “They’re just wogs, what do you expect?” That’s why they have to be helped. The same get out of personal responsibility free card does NOT, notably, apply to poor Appalachian whites, or to white residents of Eastern European countries. Because they are white, they are held to a higher standard, but SWPLs will never admit that; if they did, they would be forced to face up to the other side of the equation.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    Clyde said:

    It’s as if the world does not hold Arabs to accepted norms of human compassion, empathy and moral obligation. It’s as if the world does not expect Muslim Arabs to care about their own brothers and sisters.

     

    Then Beach added:

    That’s why they have to be helped. The same get out of personal responsibility free card does NOT, notably, apply to poor Appalachian whites, or to white residents of Eastern European countries. Because they are white, they are held to a higher standard, but SWPLs will never admit that; if they did, they would be forced to face up to the other side of the equation.

     

    I think it goes deeper than that. SWPLs feel -- deep down, perhaps sometimes unconsciously -- that they not only need to help The Other -- they need to save The Other. They are pride-filled post-Christian heretics arrogating to themselves the role of savior.
  62. @WhatEvvs
    OT but you really should read this:

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/illegal-immigrants-could-elect-hillary-clinton-213216

    I think of Politico as mostly clickbait but this one is good: 435 of the 538 electoral college votes are based on the census, and the census does not "discriminate" between legal & illegals. So you don't have to wait for them to produce anchor babies for illegals to swing an election.

    Really good article.

    Also, see http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/evenwel-v-abbott/

    This was traditionally known as a “rotten borough.”

  63. @Beach

    It seems to me that this is a manifestation of raw racism... It’s as if the world does not hold Arabs to accepted norms of human compassion, empathy and moral obligation. It’s as if the world does not expect Muslim Arabs to care about their own brothers and sisters.
     
    ...

    Is the underlying premise that they are somehow different or inferior or that their culture and code of conduct cannot be judged by Western standards?
     
    Yep, that's exactly what it is. It is the unspoken credo of SWPLs throughout America and Western Europe, and it applies not just to Muslims but to Africans, underclass black Americans, Latinos, Hispanics, Bangladeshis... I've written this before, but the underlying mentality is, "They're just wogs, what do you expect?" That's why they have to be helped. The same get out of personal responsibility free card does NOT, notably, apply to poor Appalachian whites, or to white residents of Eastern European countries. Because they are white, they are held to a higher standard, but SWPLs will never admit that; if they did, they would be forced to face up to the other side of the equation.

    Clyde said:

    It’s as if the world does not hold Arabs to accepted norms of human compassion, empathy and moral obligation. It’s as if the world does not expect Muslim Arabs to care about their own brothers and sisters.

    Then Beach added:

    That’s why they have to be helped. The same get out of personal responsibility free card does NOT, notably, apply to poor Appalachian whites, or to white residents of Eastern European countries. Because they are white, they are held to a higher standard, but SWPLs will never admit that; if they did, they would be forced to face up to the other side of the equation.

    I think it goes deeper than that. SWPLs feel — deep down, perhaps sometimes unconsciously — that they not only need to help The Other — they need to save The Other. They are pride-filled post-Christian heretics arrogating to themselves the role of savior.

  64. [Urth Caffe]

    I hope Gene Wolfe gets some of that money.

  65. @The most deplorable one
    In what way did they ruin the schools?

    The same way that Chinese tend to (by emphasizing academics over all else) or ...

    Not civic-minded enough, bought the homes of smart families/benefactors that had made the schools and community support great, wouldn’t enroll in the wider range of classes that prior students had, too Zerangi

    http://www.vdare.com/posts/zerangi-glorification-of-the-corrupt-in-iran-and-orange-county

  66. Well, Steve Jobs was clearly a genius with a lot of problems. (Compare to John Nash, the brilliant mathematician portrayed in “A Beautiful Mind” who suffered from schizophrenia and imagined that aliens from outer space, not Mexico, were attempting to contact him. Just imagine what that poor guy would be hallucinating about if he were still alive and following unz.com.)

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